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Sowing The Seeds Of Starvation

August 18, 2010 by  

Sowing The Seeds Of Starvation

“One death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic.”
—Joseph Stalin

This summer’s searing heat has put a fire beneath grain prices. But worse than another round of inflation is the potential for widespread famine, particularly in the former Soviet Union, which has been beset by the worst heat wave in 130 years.

The Ukraine is no stranger to starvation. The Terror-Famine struck the Ukraine in 1932-33 when as many as 10 million starved. It should come as little surprise that Joseph Stalin was the architect of that tragedy.

In the 1920s, Lenin proved his political savvy and made concessions to the peasantry. This led to The New Economic Policy (NEP) and a rethinking by the Kremlin.

That all ended when Stalin suspended concessions and the NEP. He even unleashed his secret police (NKVD, which became the KGB) targeting capitalists and squeezing greater food production from the suffering peasants. In the 1930s, when quotas could not be met in the face of drought, the NKVD ruthlessly robbed Ukraine of its wheat and packed the grain back to Russia.

Eight decades later the drought has returned and so have Communist ideals. Again Ukraine is facing a devastating crisis which could send grain prices much higher and upset the peace in Eastern Europe.

Reuter’s reports that the ex-Soviet Union is likely to see grain production slashed this year with Ukraine’s production falling as much as 15 percent. With a prolonged heat wave sending temperatures above 100 degrees, 27 regions have declared a state of emergency due to drought which is estimated to have destroyed 11 million hectares of crops, an area equal in size to Hungary or about one fifth of the total sown area.

Meanwhile, hundreds of forest fires rage across Russia, choking residents of Moscow. There appears no end in sight for what is being called the worst heat wave to hit Russia in its recorded history. It is wreaking havoc on one of the world’s largest breadbaskets.

A Bitter Harvest
Russia’s agricultural analysts have predicted that the nation’s grain harvest may fall as low as 65 million tonnes this year, down from 97 million tonnes in 2009. The grain agency SovEcon has also estimated that the wheat crop may decline by a whopping 44 million tonnes this year from 61.7 million in 2009. That is 4 million tonnes less than was projected a few weeks ago and the final harvest may be even lower.

The Kremlin has taken steps to bolster the security of its 9.5 million tonnes of grain stockpiles. The government is also putting as much grain aside as it can while admitting that, “the Russian grain market is becoming an acute crisis because of wildfires and drought.”

Russia has even enacted a ban on grain and flour exports for the rest of the year and perhaps longer. The Kremlin is worried domestic consumption may surpass 75 million tonnes, or 10 million tonnes more than this fall’s harvest. Fortunately, the country has 21.5 million tonnes in reserves but this stockpile will be depleted quickly if crops continue to roast in the field.

Ukraine‘s Tortured History
But even as Moscow grows more nervous each day over the upcoming harvest, its puppet state, Ukraine, is embracing the Bear in the face of servitude and perhaps even starvation. The recently elected pro-Russian, pro-Communist government in Ukraine is even rewriting history with its recent proclamation that the Terror-Famine was a tragedy the Soviet Union attempted to stop.

One of Ukraine’s top bureaucrats—Valery Soldatenko—has boasted of being a “proud Communist.” Comrade Soldatenko is not only oblivious to the oxymoron but went so far as to tell Radio Free Europe’s Ukrainian Service that he never surrendered his Communist Party membership card. “I share the Communist ideas of social and national justice, social and national equality,” he said.

Soldatenko is even a Stalin apologist. As a new director of Ukraine’s National Memory Institute (which must have no memory at all), Soldatenko believes that Joseph Stalin did everything he could to lessen the effects of the famine. Soldatenko went so far as to say that the Terror-Famine was not initiated by Stalin, but was, “The result of difficult circumstances.”

It is shocking that with starvation blowing in the wind Ukraine’s new President Viktor Yanukovych and Russia’s Prime Minster Vladimir Putin are almost nostalgic for Communist rule.

The Resurrection Of Stalin         
Last May there was a rally in opposition to Prime Minister Putin with protestors shouting slogans comparing the Prime Minister to Joseph Stalin.

"Putin is Stalin! Putin is Brezhnev! Russia without Putin," chanted the crowd. One activist held a big caricature picture of Putin kissing Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev. Police quickly ripped it down. In another demonstration hundreds unfurled a giant Russian flag and waved signs demanding fair elections as lines of riot police watched.

Opponents such as these say Putin has censored freedom of the press and eliminated democratic rights when he was President. Now that he has permanently installed himself as Prime Minister they fear that the nation is on the road to ruin and repression.

According to renowned Russian chess grand master Garry Kasparov, “The economy is sinking, the politicians do not allow any opposition into parliament; Putin’s state control is all encompassing.”

But the opposition is the minority to Putin and his iron fist. During the last May Day celebrations Reuter’s reported that thousands of Communists, trade union activists, nationalists and black-clad anti-fascists came out in support of Putin.

Russia’s Communist Party is Russia’s second biggest political party. In the past year thousands have marched under bright red banners that hold portraits of Stalin. Late last year Stalin was voted Russia’s third most popular historical figure ever. Meanwhile, a Moscow train station has restored a phrase on a billboard praising Stalin.

Putin himself has even gone so far as to praise Stalin. “It is impossible to make a general judgment. It is evident that, from 1924 to 1953, the country that Stalin ruled changed from an agrarian to an industrial society,” said the Russian Prime Minster last December. Putin went on to praise Stalin’s leadership in winning World War II.

The question: Will Putin emulate Stalin? The test of that may come this fall as sweltering heat burns the crops in Russia, Ukraine and Kazakhstan. The Big Three are among the largest exporters of wheat in the world. They provide essential food stuffs to the Middle East and North Africa and to millions of their own citizens; people who could face mass starvation if Russia staggers back to the Dark Ages that was Stalin.

Outlook
Wheat prices hit $7.24 per bushel last week, a 70 percent increase since the June lows. That is the biggest one-month jump in three decades; bigger than the food crisis of 2008 when wheat prices reached $13 per bushel.

The result of that crisis was rioting in Bangladesh, Egypt and elsewhere. This crisis could be potentially worse. And we all know that higher grain prices mean more inflation and a weaker U.S. dollar.

Wheat Prices Soar

Potash Corporation of Saskatchewan Inc., (NYSE:POT, $109) sells fertilizers and related industrial and feed products worldwide. The company also produces nitrogen fertilizers plus nitrogen feed and industrial products, including ammonia and urea.

PotashCorp also has the mineral rights to more than 800,000 acres in Canada. Prices of this stock are up strongly as investors assume that drought will lead to greater planting and rising demand for fertilizers.

PotashCorp’s stock price has rallied strongly since the deflationary panic in the summer of 2008. I believe the continued bailout process ongoing in Washington as well as soaring demand for grains worldwide will continue to push up the stock price of PotashCorp.

Action To Take
Call your stock broker and buy Potash Corporation of Saskatchewan (NYSE:POT, $140) at market.

Yours for wealth and health,

John Myers
Myers Energy and Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • DaveH

    Global Warming is back! Must be from all those people driving around looking for jobs.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Maybe Al Gore can go over there in search of his billions and sell them some green stuff that they dont need. That way we could get rid of him also. It would be like a win, win situation.

      • denniso

        The worst heat wave in recorded history…the death rate doulbled in Moscow from the heat and smog from the 1/2 million acres of fires burning…nuclear site in danger from the fires…areas around Chernoble burning and releasing radiation into the air. And you people think it’s funny!
        You also think that global warming is a myth. You’re so self absorbed that you don’t feel any of the misery in Russia or from the horrific flooding in Pakistan and China. We’re already watching global warming doing it’s work in more extreme weather around the world and you geniuses think it’d funny. I hope you’re young enough to experience some of the results as it worsens.

        • 45caliber

          The one thing that is wrong with global warming that you people shy away from is the fact that the temperature of the world has varied far more than the 1/2 degree they are worried about. In fact the world temp has been as much as fifteen to twenty degrees hotter than it is now – and man certainly wasn’t the cause then. Global warming MIGHT be real – if they could quit falsifying the info so they can get paid more millions for more research – but it won’t end the world and it isn’t due to man. It is due almost entirely to the sun.

          • Denniso

            Your opinion is worthless as you make it very clear in your comment that you know absolutely nothing about the issue…go to sleep.

          • Granny Mae

            45caliber

            I agree with you. I have been studying this global warming thing for a long time and scientist have been telling us for ever so long what the problems really are, there are storms and flarups on the sun and that effects our weather and a lot of other things. People in the radio business have known of this effect for a long time. When we get hit by the radiation from these flares we get holes in the ozone and a lot of northern light activity and skip rolling in on the radio waves etc. They say that our magnetic field around the earth is what protects us but if we have a shift in the poles it could leave a gap so that a sun flare could pass through and creat terrible problems for us. Such as the electrical grid could go down all around the world! Anything and everything electrical will be effected by it. Talk about global warming ! Wow! Al Gore is a crook and nothing but a crook. He lies to people for his own bennifit and so many people are just blind to it. There are so people out there that you can tell but you just can’t tell them much !

          • Granny Mae

            Denniso,

            We should all be concerned about this planet we live on and we have an obligation to take care of it. To do that effectivly we must take into consideration all sides of the problem and not just take up one side, otherwise we could miss the ability to work on the problem from every aspect. The earth has warmed and cooled many times over the period of it’s existance and all those times ( or most all those times) man wasn’t even alive ! We know that the pacific ocean is warming and most people think it is from man poluting the earth, but consider for a moment what is going on all around the Pacific ocean. It is called the ring of fire because of all the volcanos and they are active wether you can see them or not. There are volcanos in the Pacific ocean that have been making islands for thousands of years and they are still active. There is no such thing as a extinct volcano. It is just sleeping on the top but there is a lot of activity going on under the surface. One little earth quake and they could wake up quickly. Man has taken his home for granted and has treated it badly but that doesn’t mean that we are responsible for all the global warming and it certainly doesn’t mean that we are followers of Limbaugh or Beck ! Start looking around you and see that you can’t blame everything bad in your life on the actions of someone else ! People blame man for fish dissapearing from places they have always been or polar bears starving and so forth. Bunk ! Where I live there is a wildlife preserve and for several years we had been going through a drought. People came here on visits and wanted to see the animals in the preserve. One lady wrote in the letter to the editor that she thought it was a disgrace for us to advertise that there was an animal preserve here but when she went there she didn’t see any animals !!! I answered her letter the following week. Lady we are in the middle of a drought and unlike you the animals are not stupid. They will not stay where they could die. When the drought is over they will be back perhaps at that time so will you ! She wrote a response the following week, OH ! I didn’t know! Perhaps I will be back !

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            This is true, as the weather is cyclical, and always has been. Facts show that since the 70′s we have actually cooled. Now this month in Indiana has been a warm one. But we had unusually cool months of March, and April, warm in may, normal in June, and hot in July and August. But its always hot here in July and August. Always. That is why it is called summer. We had a really cold fall and winter last year also, so I know darn well that our temperature from last year and this year, is definately cooler than it was just two years ago, when that was a warm year. But global warming? No, Im not buying into it, especially when all these Al Gore guys got caught lying trying to prove their points. If you have to lie and cheat to get people to buy into what your selling, then its no good. And the ice caps, despite Al Gore showing pictures of them falling off, which is actually the videos from the spring thaw that he misrepresents, but they are getting thicker and bigger. Global warming – No, its not happening, and you are being fooled denniso.

          • Denniso

            Why don’t you try reading what real climate scientists say? If you think you know more than scientists studying the issue for decades,then you need some help…

        • coal miner
        • DaveH

          Did anybody say we think it’s funny, Dumniso? So, you tell us about your compassion all the while disparaging us. What is wrong with that picture? Liberals are good at lip service. That is about all.
          And Homogenic Global Warming is a hoax. If you’d exercise that vast space between your ears, you could learn that. There are plenty of books out there that explain the politics behind the Global Warming Hoax. Maybe you could fit one or two of them in that vacuum between the bookends that are your ears.

          • Denniso

            You’re reading propoganda put out by people on the payroll of big energy companies…most of us know that. The overwhelming majority of all climate scientists in the world agree that humans are contributing to global warming. You and the industry hacks and shills don’t want to believe the facts that have been studied for 30 yrs or more by climate scientists who are not on any vested interest group’s payroll…scientists w/ no axe to grind and who have secure research jobs that are not dependent on what their rsearch shows.Scientists who have trained and studied the issue for their entire careers…unlike the untrained and uneducated mob of rightwingers like you who have no clue but what you get from people like Limbaugh and Beck and books of pure propoganda.

          • BigBadJohn

            Global Warming is real – the polar ice caps are melting. Where the difference of opinion lies, is in what is causing it. I don’t know what the cause is but feel erring on the safe side is always prudent.

          • Denniso

            Real ‘conservatives’ would be concerned about the global climate changing and how it will affect humans as well as the rest of ‘creation’…you’re right,we should err on the cautious side and do what we reasonably can to forestall major climate change. Most so called ‘conservatives’ are so beholden to the idea of industry being their god that they can’t think rationally about what industry and technology are doing to the planet.

          • dan az

            WOW
            where have all of you been asleep?
            I really think that you should follow your chicken little and just stop breathing and help us all out!

          • DaveH

            More of your fabricated facts, Dumniso. The majority of scientists don’t believe the Global Warming Hoax:
            http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=64734

          • DaveH

            Dumniso says “scientists w/no axe to grind and who have secure research jobs that are not dependent on what their rsearch shows.”
            You are dumber than I thought, Dumniso. Where do you think those “independent” scientists get their research money? It wouldn’t be the Government would it? And we all know how impartial Government is. For anybody really interested in the truth rather than Dumniso’s fabricated facts:
            http://climatedepot.com/
            Even Congress, as radical as they are, have given up trying to cap CO2 emissions to protect us from the Hoax.
            Dumniso, name me the most prevalent Greenhouse Gas?

          • DaveH

            When in my early 20′s, I used to say to people that the Government would reach the height of inordinate arrogance when they proclaimed that they could control the Weather. Well, here we are. Incredible. Thank goodness the people are starting to recognize them as the charlatans that they are. Ditto for Liberals.

          • DaveH

            Dumniso and BigBadJohn both agree that we should err on the cautious side. Indeed. So let’s not empoverish our country further for an unproven theory that is based on computer models that need to be “adjusted” annually to come into compliance with the current actual observed temperatures.
            And there is very good evidence that civilization flourished during the Medieval Warming Period. It doesn’t take a rocket-scientist to know that cooling periods can be much more detrimental to mankind than warming periods.
            Get the real scoop on the politically-driven Global Warming Hoax:
            http://mises.org/misesreview_detail.aspx?control=348

          • Denniso

            So this is how it works,acording to DaveH,Beberoni and Kate8…none of them climate scientists of course. The Gov’t and university climate scientists fabricate data to perpetrate a grand global hoax on the American people…most of the rest of the world seems to believe in human generated warming. The scientists all agree to the fraud and so keep their good jobs w/ gov’t funding. The gov’t is the
            master puppeteer controlling all the scientists to keep the great hoax
            going. The gov’ts of most of the developed world all agree to continue the hoax so they can…uh oh…so they can do what? The non scientists DaveH, et al, didn’t tell us why most of the world’s gov’ts would gain anything by perpetrating the biggest hoax in history. Maybe DaveH and the other laymen(people)could fill us in on the reason all the gov’ts would conspire to defraud us? Is it just because all gov’t is evil and hates people? Are all the gov’ts somehow making billions of dollars off this fraud? Is Al Gore so powerful that he is really controlling the entire world in the hoax so he can make more money than he already has?

            Tell us,DaveH, what’s the fundamental purpose behind this great hoax and how most of the world has fallen for it…

        • kate8

          Hmmm. Here we’ve had one of the most pleasant summers I can remember.

          Come on, let’s get real for a change. I the billions or so of Earth history, the temperatures have gone from one extreme to the other. As our Earth travels around our galaxy, which has an even greater orbit, there are climate changes. It never goes one way forever.

          We’ve only been keeping climate records for a century or so. Is this really a credible sampling of Earth’s “normalcy”?

          Geez, so many people are soooo easy. Let the “experts” come up with some agenda-driven drivvel and the lemmings are all over it.

          There is a bigger picture here, folks. It’s not just all about us.

          • BigBadJohn

            HMMMM here we have had the hottest summer that I ever remember.

            Solar flairs, volcanoes, earthquakes, can and do have major impact on earths climate.
            IF and I mean IF mans activity is causing a small level of warming and one of the larger events occur at the same time, life as we know it could disappear.
            Life would go on but there is no guarantee that mankind would. since Man crawled out of a tree he has always fought over resources. With the world population now, there would be a lot of killing over food.

          • Denniso

            Kate8,you shouldn’t so clearly and shamelessly show your ignorance about climate science,but you do make a great comparison between scientists and the average member of the public w/ your uneducated comment. Scientists study tree rings and can look at weather cycles for a few thousand yrs at least. They do ice core studies,drilling down into ice that is thousands of yrs old and can look at comcentrations of CO2 and other atmospheric gases. They have compiled weather records that are very clear and show us what the climate and greenhouse gases have been doing for those thousands of yrs.

            You,on the other hand,willingly show how little you know about the issue and actually have the gall(stupidly)to take a hard and fast position on a very important and complex problem facing the whole planet…do you actually vote based on such an absurd lack of knowledge?

          • dan az

            Kate8
            The research just before global warming was global cooling,millions of dollars were spent on that.just goes to show you that research monies from the tax payers are hard at work.thats their top scientist that they speak of.

          • Granny Mae

            Whoa back Denniso,
            To limit your knowledge to tree rings and ice core samples is to limit your knowledge period. Stop calling people stupid and look up ! We not only live on this earth but also with every thing above this earth and under the surface of the earth and sea. We have new equipment flying in space and orbiting this earth that has taught us a whole new chapter on our existance. Boy you should start studying modern space and science ! LOOK UP !

          • DaveH

            Kate,
            You are right. Our last 3 summers have been about 10 degrees warmer than previous years.
            Dumniso,
            You are wrong. Tree ring and ice core temperature determinations are notoriously subjective. But then, if you really knew anything about science, you would know that.
            The famous hockey stick graph produced by climate scientists was greatly flawed as it didn’t include the temperatures of most Siberian temperature sensors that went offline after about 1985 due to the collapse of the USSR and the resultant lack of funds. Those omissions skewed the temperature readings dramatically to the upside from those of pre-collapse years.
            When people want to believe something badly enough, they will avert their eyes from anything contrary to that belief.

          • DaveH

            I meant 10 degrees Cooler than the previous years.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            to dumbniso and badbadjohn, the world is cooling, so get over your left wing liberal agenda, and admit to yourselves that your hero leaders lied to you. They lied to you, to the world, and to themselves, all in their quest to get filthy rich. Thats it, the bottom line. It was all about money. And big bad, the ice caps are not melting. Those pictures Al Gore shows over and over, are the spring thaw that takes place every year but it is not the ice caps melting. Actual Geological scientists, not the school teaching scientist Al Gore brings up, but real geological scientists, say the Ice caps are growing and are getting so thick, that the edges are breaking off on parts of them because they are so massive they cant hold their own weight, but they are expanding at the same time. So you can believe them, and their measurements and the facts, or you can choose if you like to follow pathetic little Al Gore and his quest to become a billionaire. Me, Ill side on the truth.

          • Denniso

            DaveH says the ‘last 3 summers were 10 degrees cooler than the previous ones’. Where’s that DaveH? your backyard? A 10 degree cooling trend over 3 yrs? Give me a break! That sort of sustained drop would mean we’re in an ice age. Look it up clueless one.

            Kate8…any idea how long it takes us to travel around our galaxy one time? No,I didn’t think you knew…it makes for some mighty long and infrequent cycles. A little longer than 10 or 20,000 yrs.

          • Denniso

            Beberoni says the world is cooling,even as cities around the globe are setting new heat records…she obviously knows more than the thousands of actual climate scientists who disagree w/ her. I’m afraid though that she’s even going against the few scientists who don’t think it’s human related but do say that we’re warming.

        • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

          Denniso,
          Since your always putting down our Republic, spouting off how unjust we are, THIS IS YOUR CALLING, the commies are in need of your savvy, go man go to their rescue. Just imagine you could become their Anointed One. The Choices they made (Communism / Dictators) are the Choices they have to live with. Blow it out Obama’s apologetic “you know what”.

        • Carol

          It isn’t global warming (there haven’t been any sun spots of significance to warrant that but if it were it would be a natural occurance/cycle. The ocean produces the majority of the Co2 of which the trees,flowers, grasslands swallow up because that is what they live on…it’s their food.) but a much more sinister program that’s in place that controls/modifies the weather. It’s been going on since the 1960′s and even before. Ben Livingston designed for the military the weather modification program to use in Viet Nam and now through HAARP (read Nick Begich’s books on HAARP-High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program-started in Alaska) they can create earth quakes, hurricanes, droughts, etc. More modest weather modification programs are offered for years on the internet through different companies. So why the extreme weather? Just look into the global weather modification programs. They’ve been around for decades.

        • Sutekh

          I saw a comment here that said “You don’t believe in global warming, because you are self-absorbed.”

          I know that the earth is getting warmer. What I do not subscribe to is the religion of global warming, which I call Geocalorianity to distinguish it from the science of global warming. Geocalorianity is a religious movement like any other that seeks to take over the mechanism of the state and force its doctrines on everyone else.

          The chief doctrine of Geocalorianity is that men are evil sinners because they breathe out carbon dioxide. To atone for their constant sin, they must go to a Geocalorian priest (somemone like Al Gore) confess their sins, agree to do their “penance” of practicing suffocating themselves physically and economoically, and lay money on the priest. The Geocalorian god exempts his priests from any sin or penance, thus the priests of Geocalorianity live in giant mansions with huge carbon footprints, fly frequently, and receive money, not pay it.

          This is why we need separation of church and state. The great glaciers that used to cover Canada and the northern U.S. did not melt simply because of 50,000 Fred Flintstones cooking dinner.

          We are told that we can’t eat meat because livestock produce warming gases. The Great Plains used to be covered with massive herds of buffalo that cranked out alleged warming gases. Why didn’t global warming spike years ago because of that?

          We need to deal with the fact that the earth is getting hotter, not with the fantasy that some sort of “original sin” is causing it.

      • 45caliber

        I’m in favor of anything that might get rid of Al. He is probably an admirer of their political system anyway since most politicians are.

        • Marten

          Are you talking about Al Capone????

          • Granny Mae

            Marten
            Yes Al Capone Gore ! LOL !

    • Marian

      Solar powered electric cars could help eliminate global warming, but then what will the politicos do to get us to pay for Cap & Trade and their other cash grabbing pans?

  • dan az

    Dave H
    yep in there suv for one!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      dan az,
      They said that Red Dawn was just a story. what was the cause of Russia invading the US? The Russian wheat crop failed!!!! Sound a little familiar??

      • Jimmy G

        WOLVERINES

      • dan az

        Joe
        I forget so Im going to watch it again damn im going to have to buy another tv.Its your fault!

        • Granny Mae

          dan az

          Don’t do it! Just go borrow Joe’s

          • dan az

            Thanks Granny I like that Idea better!!!!

  • DaveH

    Higher grain prices mean more inflation and a weaker U.S. dollar?
    “Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon” – Milton Freidman. Without excess dollars being printed, supply disruptions would only increase the price of the related commodity. Money that would have been spent on other goods, must then be allocated to the affected commodity, thus those other goods either go unbought or must lower their prices. Economy-wide price increases can only occur with too much money creation.

    • dan az

      Dave you get an A+

    • Al Sieber

      And the printing presses are running 24/7. inflation the hidden tax.

      • 45caliber

        Al:
        You are right about inflation being a hidden tax. Back in 1973 during the (fake) oil shortage, the government froze prices and wages to prevent the price of gasoline sky-rocketing. They sent a spokesman down from Washington to explain what a fine system it was.

        A friend of mine at work was sent to listen to the speech. The gov. man said that wage and prices being frozen wouldn’t actually hurt. If a company actually was in trouble due to the prices being frozen, they could appeal and the government would review and allow an increase. (They did.) Wage problems could be corrected by someone finding a new job or even quitting and applying for his old job since he would already be trained on it. (That happened too.)

        One man finally asked, if the freeze was so good, why didn’t we keep it from then on.

        The gov. man finally stated that the government NEEDED inflation. It would increase all prices, which would increase profits. It would certainly increase wages, which was their real goal. This would mean that the tax amount collected went up based on your increased salary and on the movement of people into higher tax brackets. As he said, if they didn’t have inflation to bring in more money for new government projects, Congess would be continually raising taxes to pay for them. And people would object to tax increases by Congress.

    • BigBadJohn

      thank Nixon for taking us off of the gold standard……

      • Sutekh

        Nixon took us off the gold standard because he had to, pal.

        When LBJ began massive borrowing to finance the Vietnam war and conceal the cost of it by not raising taxes, foreign countries like France realized what was going to happen to our economy. France, in particular, began exchanging its dollars for gold. Since the U.S. had already printed billions more dollars than it had 35 ounces of gold per, Ft Knox would have been emptied. Nixon finally was forced to do what he did.

        When runaway inflation hits and finally wrecks us, you can thank the warmongering Democrazis who kept the war in Vietnam going until it ruined us, and never bothered to fix the problem with the currency afterward. All they had to do was print less money. But without magic money, they couldn’t pay all the entitlements that they had enacted to buy the votes of the masses.

    • John Myers

      Let me tell you of a scenario that proves my point. Let’s say every year each person saves 20 percent of their income and spends 80 percent of their income. If all of a sudden wheat becomes so scarce people start bidding up the price of wheat so high, they might start saving less annually even saying that all other prices and demand for non-wheat related goods hold to be the same. Even in this case where new no money was added to the system, inflation holds.

      In most cases inflation is because the government does print too much damn money but I do think that it can happen too solely from getting the consumers to increase their spending versus a saving ratio which does happen with the introduction of scarcity.

      The possibility that wheat prices alone can increase inflation depends on whether people are then substituting other goods for wheat goods (no change in inflation) or saving less to compensate for the higher prices (higher inflation).

      • DaveH

        First of all, it is an unlikely scenario for the production of wheat to remain depressed for years, unless Government involvement kept it that way. It is the nature of farming for farmers to grow the money crops from one year to the next. Second of all, say you have an inelastic basket of money. You can buy so many goods with that money.
        Whereas, normally you could have bought 100 equally-priced items with that money, in abnormal times the supply of 10 of the items in the list experienced a shortage and were able to increase their prices to double? What now? You can no longer purchase 100 items. You now can only purchase 90 of the items in the list (if your purchases include the 10 whose price doubled). So the producers of the unpurchased items either need to lower their prices or they go unbought.
        Please read the book by Milton Friedman – “A Monetary History of the United States, 1867-1960″. Some Ludwig Von Mises reading would help also. It is worrisome to me that an investment advisor would not understand the mechanics of inflation. Talk to Bob Livingston.

        • DaveH

          That brings up a point I would like to make. Why isn’t Economics a required course in High School? Of all the crap they make the students take, Economics is more important to the average citizens’ lives than anything else. And recently Glenn Beck was talking about Federal Budget Education Cuts that included some programs to teach our youth about Economics. Could it be that they purposely don’t want our kids to understand money matters? I think so. An ignorant population is an easily led population.

          • Bon, from the Land of Babble

            Economics 101 is being taught in the high schools, Dave, in fact it is mandated.

            But it is statist economics that is being taught.

            The last high school econ class I entered featured a large poster of Che over the teacher’s desk.

            Students these days, via history and econ classes, are taught that Big Government is THE solution to ALL of their problems. If they don’t have the things they consider necessary–oh, such things as an iPod, the latest sneakers, rimz for their cars–it is the fault of the rich, meaning anyone that has or earns anything, believes in ‘outmoded’ property rights and scorns government theft of their wages via satanic taxes.

            This is why when the food riots start, anyone who is perceived as ‘rich’ will be attacked mercilessly as roving gangs seek liquor, women, drugs and arms.

            Yes, would that students were taught Austrian economics vs. Keynesian or other statist systems. But as the schools themselves have been co-opted by egalitarian, communist sympathizers, conforming to the state and becoming a drone of Big Brother is The Prime Directive.

            This is why I often state: Get your kids out of the government schools, do it now and don’t look back.

            Bon

          • CJ

            The current education system keeps people on the government system. So many are on welfare because the education system, in and out of classes, teaches them the best economic answer is NOT to work. It is amazing how government tries to prove economics wrong, and economics proves oppressive government doesn’t work.

          • John

            Dave,

            I’ve wondered the same thing myself. It’s obviously part of an anti-capitalism, left-wing agenda.

            That partly explains why so many of these left-wingers are so damned ignorant about Capitalism, one of the aspects of what made this a Great Country.

          • 45caliber

            CJ:
            I agree. What is even worse, to me, is that taxpayers seldom have more than two children now because they pay so much tax that they can’t afford to have more than two kids. That isn’t enough for replacement, so the taxpayer group shrinks.

            On the other hand, the government pays those women on Welfare extra money for each kid they produce up to number 8. So those one welfare are growing in number.

            We are about at the point where those on welfare and on the government payroll outnumber those of us paying the tax when it comes to voting.

          • Beepster

            You can teach all the economics you want in high school, but if they don’t understand math, how can they understand economics? If you pay cash in a store, you stand a good chance of being over/under charged. Electronics have taken the place of brains/thinking power.

          • dan az

            45
            thats a very good point!

          • Granny Mae

            DaveH
            You got it right. I find though that the biggest problem with our education system is that it is different from state to state. And sometimes it is different from going to City schools to county schools or in some states township schools ! Some schools teach economice and some don’t. Some teach penmanship and diagraming sentence’s and some don’t. Today most are only concerned with teaching the FCAT . How to pass the FCAT test. Not to much concern with practical knowledge today !

          • Granny Mae

            Bon,
            Believe it ! If I had kids today there wouldn’t be a one of them in public school ! I raised 5 boys and thank God they didn’t get into the kind of system they have today. It was bad enough but I could handle that with a little home schooling on the side ! I have donated some of my books to the school library and was told that I must have a wide and varied interrest in everything !! Maybe but mostly I had to round out the educations of my kids ! That will give you a wide and varried interrest ! LOL !

        • DaveH

          By the way, 20% savings? One could only Hope. Here is a chart of the personal savings rate over the last 60 years:
          http://seekingalpha.com/article/185887-chart-of-the-day-u-s-savings-rate-over-the-last-60-years

        • DaveH

          It is distressing to me that one of our own would give aid and comfort to the Big Government Sycophants who will blame the inevitable consumer-price inflation on supply factors (oil, wheat, or whatever scapecoat comes along). And unfortunately, the bulk of the US citizens will buy into the bull, because they lack the necessary education in Economics.
          Make no mistake about it, when the prices of our goods start increasing dramatically, and they will, it is purely a result of excessive money creation by the Federal Reserve.

          • Denniso

            And, what exactly is your education in economics?

          • dan az

            Dave H
            dennso is the bulk of confusion maybe you should explain it in 3rd grade levels so he can comprehend it.

          • DaveH

            A lifetime of independent study, Dumniso. I have worked as an employee for 20 years of my adult life. The other 20 years I lived on my investments. I have 2 4-year degrees, Biology, and Math (graduated with honors in both). In my 50s I took a year of Computer Science courses.
            Why does it matter, Dumniso? Anybody with an open-mind could have learned what I know by sitting down and reading good books by accomplished economists. I guess that leaves out Liberals.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Now you tell me Dave, how in the world can denniso question your education in economics, when he votes democrat, who know nothing about economics except to make it harder on the people to survive. Another hippocritical left wing move.

          • Denniso

            Accomplished economists,DaveH? Friedman was smart enough,sure,though also obviously biased in his philosophy. Math and Biology are good degrees,but have nothing to do w/ economics…honors in those can mean you’re smart enough,I’ll give you that. But one clear problem w/ being self taught is that one can pick and choose who they want to learn from and probably not be exposed to ideas we don’t like…most people have a predisposition to some bias and then naturally read and follow what supports the bias. Formal education can force us to listen to other opinions from people we may not pay attention to otherwise,therefore getting a better,rounded education. That’s what is fundamentally wrong w/ home schooling as the main source of education…you are home schooled in economics and have developed an obvious bias to the idea of imaginary ‘free markets’…

        • John Myers

          I gave your criticism serious consideration and even consulted about it with my brother who was an economist with the Bank of Canada. I trust in his expertise plus my own formal education as an economic student where I was taught economics is an art, not a science. My suggested reading to you on that subject is an OP-ED from the NY Times last March, by David Brooks.
          http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/26/opinion/26brooks.html?_r=1&src=me

          • Vippy

            Economists have not seen it coming and I don’t believe that for one minute. When you make credit available you mask the fact that real earnings power is not offered. When the states passed the equity loan program something smelled foul. People claim the 1990s were great but I remember when the credit cards hit and people bought like crazy, maxed out their cards right off the bat. I knew trouble was ahead and I did not join in. Surely, there are umpteenth people more intelligent than me! I say this whole thing was planned and we see that being true with the recently passed “financial reform bill.” They are not through with us yet.

          • CJ

            Economics is only how people react to a shortage, not governments. Predicting a government’s reaction is trickier because it will upset the whole economic forcast… and make the situation WORSE. My first chapter in economics stated an economy is efficient, until government intervenes (or interferes).

          • 45caliber

            The real problem with government influence on economy is that they don’t want to be the ones who are caught when the money deflates due to inflation. So to counter this, they give themselves a raise. Those of us NOT working for the government – who pays for all their things – then have to pay even more tax or gets caught as they print more money, which lowers the value of the money even more. To make things even worse, the government continues to buy at the inflated rate – which costs us even more – and it reduces the amount of goods available to us – which increases the price even further.

            The only way to stop inflation growth is for the government to stop buying as much and to not give themselves pay raises no one can afford. Unfortunately that has never happened in my memory.

          • DaveH

            I suggest a couple of good authors – Milton Friedman, and Ludwig Von Mises, and you suggest an article in the New York times? Please.

            Don’t be afraid to read books by those authors, John, they won’t bite.

          • DaveH

            Milton Friedman has had positive influence on a number of countries. A former Soviet Satellite, the Czech Republic (was Czechoslovakia, now split into two countries), was greatly influenced by Friedman’s books. Another was Chile. Both had either previously been under Communist rule or (in the case of Chile) perilously close, and both have become very successful:
            http://www.chicagobooth.edu/news/2006-11-30_friedman.aspx

          • Denniso

            Wow!! DaveH is insulting one of his own…Do you also advise people read Ayn Rand,the paragon of selfishness? Milton Friedman lived in the artificial world of academia and charts and graphs w/ no grasp of real people behind the charts. Milton Friedman lived long enough to watch his credibility fade just like the great ‘trickle down’ economic theory pushed by DaveH’s hero Ronnie Reagan.

            Keep insulting your allies DaveH and you too can become a true fringe thinker.

          • DaveH

            Don’t even pretend to know anything about Milton Friedman, Ignorant Liberal.
            And the pot calling the kettle black? The king of insults lecturing me about insulting? Surely, you jest. Dumniso, you are just a worthless Liberal who plies his trade with fabricated facts and personal attacks. Nobody, but the blindered Liberal zealots, pays attention to your useless comments.

          • Denniso

            Sorry to anger you DaveH,but Miltie was a well spoken,partisan hack…not an objective economist as we all know. His bias was as obvious as your pretense of real economic knowledge.

    • Bob

      That’s terrible. Not enough money left to buy any Chinese crap.

    • Bob Wire

      A good day for the snake is a bad day for the frog.

      >>Kansas wheat production up 6 percent

      Kansas

      Wheat production in Kansas for 2009 is forecast at 360.8 million bushels. The current forecast is up 6 percent from June 1 and 1 percent above last year’s production.

      Harvested acres are expected to total 8.8 million, up 300,000 from June 1 but 100,000 acres lower than last year. Yield is expected to average 41 bushels per acre, up 1 bushel from both the June 1 forecast and last year’s yield. As of June 28, wheat harvest was 47 percent complete, ahead of last year’s progress of 32 percent complete but behind the 5-year average of 61 percent.

      Harvest has been delayed by late maturity and frequent rains.

      Oat production is forecast at 1.65 million bushels, up 25 percent from last year. Yield is expected to average 55 bushels per acre, up 2 bushels from last year’s yield of 53 bushels.<>USDA increases winter wheat production estimate

      July 9, 2010 by John Perkins
      Filed under Crops, News, Top Stories

      USDA projects 2010 U.S. winter wheat production at 1.505 billion bushels, compared to June’s estimate of 1.482 billion and the 2009 total of 1.523 billion bushels.

      That month to month rise is due to an increase in average yield offsetting a decrease in harvested area while the year to year decline is because of smaller planted area.

      By class, USDA has hard red at 1.012 billion bushels, soft red at 267.768 million and white at 226.239 million bushels.

      The average yield is pegged at 46.9 bushels per acre, potentially the third largest on record, compared to the as of June 1 guess of 46.6 bushels per acre and the 2009 average of 44.2 bushels per acre.

      Harvested area is seen at 32.085 million acres, compared to 34.485 million a year ago.

      Spring wheat is seen at 606.755 million bushels, compared to 584.411 million in 2009. If realized, this will be the third biggest U.S. spring wheat crop ever.

      The average yield came out at 44.6 bushels per acre, possibly the second highest on record, compared to 45.1 a year ago, with harvested area at 13.590 million acres, compared to 12.955 million last year.

      Durum wheat is pegged at 103.513 million bushels, compared to 109.042 million a year ago.

      Average yield for durum is seen at 40.0 bushels per acre, which would be the second highest ever behind 2009′s 44.9 bushels per acre.<<

      Maybe Putin ~ would like to trade out ? maybe thrown in a few hundred pretty Russian women to sweeten the deal? Since they are just 32 million bushels down? Shouldn't be no large reach.

      • 45caliber

        But – don’t expect the farmers to see this!

        The government buys a set precentage of the crop every year, supposedly as a hedge against famine. Actually it is meant to keep the price down when someone buys the farmer’s crops. Further, most farmers now are encouraged to sell their crops before they plant them. Some even sell several years in advance.

        The extra grain we produce will be sold by the government to Russia – but again probably with money they “borrow” from the World Bank – which we finance.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I dont think there are a few hundred pretty russian women to be had. The ones Ive always seen look pretty manly to me. Maybe its the steroids.

  • s c

    People around the world need to get into the habit of stocking up on food, or they can start growing some of their own food. A third ‘option’ means relying on governments that want everyone to be utterly dependent on them.
    Katrina sent a message to those whose eyes are open. The BP farce in the gulf should have delivered another message. Uncle Scam is NOT in the rescue business. If America ever has simultaneous disasters on the east and west coasts, perhaps then people will understand how useless Uncle Scam can be.
    Some people might think they can eat dollars. I disagree. It might work as second-rate toilet paper, but it never had any nutritional value. It never will.

    • THINKING ABOUT

      The Katrina suffering was more than storing up food. It was surviving in 103 degree and dying in attics of homes in this temperature. Want to sign up for that, trucks of ice driving from one location to another at big bucks and then after several days of this was allowed to melt without ever reaching anyone. Yes this was a scam. We get assistance into other countries much faster than we did in our nation, news reporters was able to get into the area much before assistance of any kind that was not our FEMA. Want to sign up for the situations these folks and animals dealt with?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And the lions share of fault there, must be laid on the local politicians, and not the federal government as so many like to blame Bush. From Ray Nagin to Mary Landrieu to others, they didnt have their stuff together for this kind of tragedy, and hopefully they all learned from this so if it happens again, they can act. When you think about it though, it was a monumental task for anyone, and the diversion of time, manpower and energy spent getting people out that refused to leave in the first place added to a lot of the woes also.

        • Bob Wire

          No, ! the fault lies in where people decided to call “home” ~ they were attempting to cover their bases with levies and controlled water ways. Local & Federal government should have been on the button in this matter. They were caught “sleeping” and lacking in keeping these system, the people and concerns that used them on constant vigil. It’s not an easy job, screwing up and making mistakes is very easy to do in such an infrastructure.

          No one controls the weather, ~ That some were caught up and couldn’t leave their homes is simple “misfortune” brought about by the selections they have chosen to make over a period of a life time.

          No Bush blame here on this one. ~ in only one respect, State Reservist, were busy ~ elsewhere and was not available when needed by state interest and time of great need.

          I chose to go no farther with Bush blame. While admitting Brown was not the wises chose for such a position.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Your right about we cannot control the weather, and we dont know what it will or wont do, but we do know what it is capable of, and we do know that we have state and local governments, who should be able to put things into motion and not sit back and wait for daddy federal government to come and take care of things. When its real bad, yes, the federal government with all its resources acts and aids in the recovery, but it has to start first at the local and state level, and there was a huge, huge failing on these peoples parts in this one.

        • 45caliber

          A lot of the blame also is due to FEMA. There was an electrician from here who works for the power company who was sent to NO during Katrina to help get power back on. Before they were allowed into the area, they had to drive from here (south of Houston) to North Carolina and sit for a week to endure a one day training session on FEMA. No one was allowed into the area without that training. He said it was basically on how FEMA ran things. Then they were allowed to drive back to NO. So it took them over a week to get aid in when they should have been there the same day. And it cost extra for food, gas, motel rooms, etc. as well.

      • DaveH

        When people choose to build their homes below sea-level near the ocean in hurricane country, should the people who were more prudent be forced to pay for those who weren’t?
        The same thing goes for those who build their homes on unstable hillsides in California or other places. Although the latter group rarely get any sympathy from Liberals because they are usually well-to-do.
        When the people who use their heads are forced to pay for those who don’t, what is the message? How long can society behave like that and expect people to make the correct choices?
        It takes effort to make the right decisions and it is unlikely that most people will make that effort if they have to pay for those who didn’t.

        • eddie47d

          The 9th ward should never be rebuilt and homeowners in California shouldn’t be allowed to rebuild in these dry forest areas. Insurance companies should know this and much higher rates on these areas that are unsuitable should keep folks from building there. (except for the diehards).

          • TIME

            Ok Eddie, – now this is a moment that will live forever in BLNB,

            Eddie, I agree with you 100% on your post!

            You see we do see somethings the same, as in when its been proven that the cause & effect will be yeild the same benifit time after time, its time to stop the maddness. ;-)

          • 45caliber

            I’d like to see the 9th Ward rebuilt for ONE reason. It might get the Katrina people in our area back to NO and off the special storm giveaways. Many of these people are living in hotels here (not because they can’t get housing here but because they prefer the hotels.) They insist that until their homes in 9th Ward are rebuilt they must stay there and the judges insist that the taxpayers keep picking up the tabs for them.

          • DaveH

            Eddie,
            The dry fire-prone forests are not what I was talking about, but that is also a valid point. I was talking about mudslides, where entire hillsides slide away after being over-saturated by heavy rainfalls.
            But Government should just butt out. People should be allowed to build where they want, but if they suffer misfortune as a result of poor choices, then Government should not be able to step in and bail them out with other peoples’ unwilling contributions.

          • Claire

            DaveH–I agree with you. If people build in areas prone to mudslides, floods, etc. it is their own fault. Especially if they knew all this beforehand. Some people that put up with floods seem to always rebuild in the same spot. I would leave the area, literally. I wouldn’t want to go through that every time there was a flood. Same with mudslides.

          • Denniso

            So I see DaveH is also an engineer as well as an economist…It is not always so simple as DaveH may think to know where it is ‘safe’ to build. We don’t have flood records that go back more than maybe a 100 yrs and there are such events as 500yr floods that dwarf those that we have records for.

            When a house is built by a first owner and then sold,the 2nd owner may have no clue about the safety,which is why we have codes and zoning laws. But if the various gov’ts can’t or don’t regulate where people build and the houses are sold,we have a problem. I don’t imagine DaveH is in favor of building codes and zoning laws,which if followed scrupulously,would help end the problem. Industry pressure(because of financial considerations),
            lack of good regulations and pressure from ‘libertarians’ like DaveH on gov’t agencies all go toward exacerbating the problem.

          • dan az

            Eddie
            Im proud of you I agree dont stop now

          • DaveH

            Dumniso says it all with this one sentence “We don’t have flood records that go back more than maybe a 100 yrs and there are such events as 500yr floods that dwarf those that we have records for”

            So we don’t have flood records that go back more than a 100 years, but Dumniso can tell us about the 500 year floods?

            Your fabricated facts are getting out of control, Dumniso.

          • TIME

            Dave,
            Its called Pretzel logic, can’t you see how that works Dave here is a really good example; so log this for later dates. ;-) It will help when you see this again soon.

            If A were B and C were B then 1 would equal 111111111, but only on the third day in May on leap year with a full moon in Capricorn and only if a baby is crying in the arms of a plump chicken with wild blue eyes and two fox’s are dancing in the mid day sun with sugar plums.
            Plus to make sure it works one must also be able to swin in mud with 200 LB weights on each limb, while singing By By Pink Bird.

            Oh an last but not least this form of logic will not apply if a crow sings Hound Dog, while a Cat blows farts, and the Dog climbs trees, while Purple Pigs fly.

            See now don’t you feel better now that I explained how that works?

            So you see we only have records that go back about 100 years past that no one knew how to write, let alone wrong.
            But we also know of the 500 year storms, as well there is the little known 2000 year storms that brings on the storm’s of the big
            “Wha Wha,” this can also be found on Jimi records played backwards,
            Ok so, now can you see them purple flying pigs yet?
            Is its still fuzzy – Ok look again.

            LMAO so hard I almost fell out of my chair.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I have been there 3 times and walked through the 9th ward and other areas down there, and no way should they rebuild there, but they are, and it will happen again. They rebuilt some of the dyke, and raised up other parts, but its still on top of this loose sandy pea gravel like soil that will wash away and topple again someday. They need to do like they did here. After so many river floods, they basically paid to relocate the people in these “flood plains”, and turned these areas into what they call the river greenway, and planted tree’s and bushes and walking paths, and when the river needs to flood, it fills these areas up, and spares flooding other neighborhoods. Lake Pontchartrain is up higher than New Orleans. After all the flood damage there, they should have leveled all those areas, drained the lake into them, and built up on the higher ground where the lake is. It was some really stupid engineering that placed a lake high up above the city. And now they are doing it again. Talk about setting something up for failure. It should be allowed to happen, but it is.

          • Denniso

            I thought w/ all of DaveH’s home schooling he’s be able to understand what I meant,by using the term 500 yr flood. No,we don’t have records that go back that far and I mean a much larger flood than we have seen in recorded history…much larger than a iooyr flood,for example. In other words,a flood event that would only occurr every 500 yrs,which would be extreme and should be very rare. But super floods like that are occurring more and more often.

        • dan az

          dipso
          you really are an idiot.
          Ive been building houses for the better part of forty years and I can say you have no clue on what your saying.Only a moron would not know what a plot map is and as far as the building dept goes they dont know how to read one its up to you to explain fall because all they see is lines and a pay check.like you wouldnt research somthing that you were going to buy I dont care if it where 100 yr flood or 500 yr the water still goes down hill and if there isnt any where for it to go then it floods just ask your neighbor and he might tell you the truth unless he was a liberal.

          • DaveH

            LOL. Good one, Dan.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Your right on. Sometimes, the liberals would benefit themselves and all of society if they just used a little common sense, just once in awhile anyhow.

          • Denniso

            I would say,by your remark, that your just a redneck simpleton. You’ve built houses for 40 yrs…gee,I’m impressed. The odds are that you’ve built some houses in locations that they shouldn’t be in,because, guess what? Most houses that wind up flooded or burned or split by earthquakes are built by whom? Contractors. I’ve designed and built and engineered houses for 35 yrs..I have a CE degree…I’ve also worked for engineering companies and done surveying and flood planning. If we had no county and city zoning requirements we would have 10 times the home devastation we have. No, all the inspectors and code people are not geniuses,but if we dumped them and left it up to contractors and builders who primarily have a monetary self interest, we would really be in trouble.
            You sound like a typical,undereducated builder who thinks only he is competent and knows just enough to cause trouble and build crappy cardboard boxes that have no lasting value and usually are eyesores and a detriment to the landscape. Nice to meet you…

          • Denniso

            I like most builders…the ones who are smart enough to have a little humility.

          • dan az

            Depsh-t
            Ive met allot of so called engineers like you that has know knowledge of what they are building just because you saw it in a book dosent mean that its the only way that it can be built.I dont build crap the houses that I have built since the sixties are still there and I built them on the san andreas.I may not be as educated as you, because I have been working in construction since I was twelve yrs old I liked It.I was fighting for my country when I was seventeen and had a family when I got out.So if you think your education can give you the expierance that I have in designing comerical and residental not craker boxes there are multi million dollar houses and comerical buildings that I built not just on paper like some wanta be architect that thinks he know better.books for some people are the gospil expierance on the other hand is the diffrents between knowing and guessing it might work.there are allot of those buildings on the ground because of so called engineers that have no back ground in the actual workings of buildings.try to bullsh-t some one that gives a sh-t because I know what you are and I know you have never worked a day in your life.I’m a mason,electriction,plummer,frammer,finish carpenter,cabinet builder,furniture buider,roofer,sider,tiler,sheet rocker.painter,heavy equipment operator,mechanic truck tractor cars and harleys and any thing else that has an engine.what im not is a very educated want to be builder like your self.

          • Denniso

            Congratulations on your skills…that’s fine and good,but it doesn’t translate into being able to think w/ logic and reasoning. And I think the point was that people should’nt be building in dangerous areas and then expecting the gov’t to help them when things go wrong.
            I don’t think you should tell DaveH,your ally in this discussion, that you’ve built homes on a fault line…that’s exactly what he was complaing about.
            Like I said,I appreciate builders who have good skills and a dose of humility to go w/ them…you don’t sound very modest.
            Me? I designed and built my first adobe structure when I was 11 yrs old. Also like I said, I was also a builder of custom homes and also designed them…I’m not just an Architect/engineer w/ no hands on experience,dude.
            Do you see how I didn’t curse you or use foul words? You can learn to do the same.

    • CJ

      Countries around the world need to limit their population to what the land can sustain. When overpopulation happens, then we get the disasters like famin. Wouldn’t it be wiser to prevent the situation than correct for it with death and suffering?

      • 45caliber

        CJ:
        Do you want to be the one to tell those on Welfare that they will no longer get extra money for having another kid and that they will face forced abortion (as is done in China and other places) if they do?

        • dan az

          45
          I have an idea send back the illegals and close the borders

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I would suggest, since we have to have a license to drive a car, that we have to have a license to have children. Now those that choose to keep having kids that cant afford them, go and have another one, that child is immediately put up for adoption, where people who are dying inside to have a child and cant, can adopt this child and give it a good life, instead of having to pay 10 grand to adopt from China or Russia. As long as we reward people for bad behavior, ala welfare, food stamps, giving billions to GM and Chrysler, etc, etc, we are going to get this behavior again, and again and again. And those who go popping out kids without a license, its adoption time. There are plenty of people who would love to have children and cant, and so many that have them, that only do so in order to get more money from the government, and the kids do without. Ive seen it over and over again. Its a mess.

      • JF in California

        Well isn’t that the great equalizer. Let everyone do what they will, they pay for their own mistakes. You can’t limit a population ethically. Famine, war and disease kills off the excess when it gets out of control. Cold… Maybe, but that is what life is about. Making choices and learning through consequences of your decisions.

        • Bob Wire

          that should apply to many things, a float or no float situation.

          I know it applies to everything I’ve ever been engaged in. ~ If it questionable, insurance is a standard requirement and this I pay for.

          How some manage to skirt final responsibility is truly amazing, I don’t seem to be so lucky. ~ I can’t tear a tag of a mattress without getting caught!

          Katrina was a predictable event. All the gulf states are exposed to this potential disaster. Florida is an accident just waiting to happen but that does little to keep Northern Seniors from flocking there to enjoy their Autumn years.

          I admirer the fact people refuse to live in fear, where it’s mud slides, fires or flood surges. But there comes a time someone will pay the price and it’s inside this frame of reference we need to view such things and not attempt to lay blame at one persons doorstep.

          When we/government intervene with peoples behavior, it seems to set a pretense of taking some responsibility. That “some” disaster victims most willing to take this “responsibility” and exploit it not surprising. Hmm? “Hard Love” has it’s place and purpose. You can expect some “Bad Press” and lends it’s self well to 30 second sound bits, not revealing the whole story.

        • Bon, from the Land of Babble

          The only Equalizer I believe in is the one invented by Colonel Colt.

          Bon

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          But what people are learning in regards to this, is that if they are irresponsible and keep popping out kids that they cannot possible take care of, that the government will reward them for their bad behavior, and give them more and more money and food stamps and WIC and welfare, and that is why it keeps going this way, because our government not only condones this behavior, it rewards it. Its time to change this thinking.

  • FreedomFighter

    Nobody in the modern world needs starve from lack of foodstuffs.

    Heat wave or not, this is but another example of poor planning by big goverment Russia, Soviet style central control has failed yet again, leaving millions to suffer.

    No food reserves? Alternate crops? Secondary crops? Heat resistant crops? Even in biblical times they stocked 7 years of foodstuff for times like this.

    On a personal note: 6 month minimum, better 2-3 years personal foodstocks for each in the household.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      It is a government who interests lie elsewhere than looking out for their people. We have our problems here, but I dont care what anyone says, we still have the greatest nation in the world. For now.

      • Vippy

        OMG, you need to get out more and see what we are up against.

        • DaveH

          Beberoni knows what we’re up against. He experiences it often at the hands of the Liberals that comment here.

          • Denniso

            Freedom doesn’t yet know that the Soviet Union is gone? That Russia is now one of the most capitalist countries in the world?

          • DaveH

            Unbelievable, Dumniso. Just when I think you can’t say anything dumber, you surprise me yet again:
            http://www.heritage.org/index/Country/Russia

          • DaveH

            Are you on meds, Dumniso?

          • Denniso

            Sure, the Heritage Foundation says so. One of the least credible sources you could have cited. And their little chart and numerical system are pretty,aren’t they? But they don’t tell you what the basis for the numbers is…beyond that,in 7 out of the 10 categories Russia is average or close to average,anyway. The Heritage people also don’t rank us very well,do they?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Its not a perfect society pal, I know that. None are. But Ill put up the good old U.S. of A against any nation out there. Id rather live here than anywhere, and I have more freedom and security here than anywhere. And if you dont believe that, then your just a part of the problem, instead of being a part of the solution. And pal, I do get out. I see the good in things, Im not all doom and gloom like you liberals. I dont know how or why you live here with such a bad opinion of your own country. Shame on you. Love it, or get out. Thats all Ive got to say to you. You should be ashamed of yourself.

          • dan az

            Beberoni
            I’ve been to allot of countries and know exactly what your saying hands down there is no other country that stands in our shadow than can claim they could compete with a God loving nation that gives freedom to there people to do and say what they want.No one truly understands until they have seen for them selves the conditions that humans had to endure just to survive .

      • 45caliber

        I don’t know how much food the US government keeps stocked but it does keep a lot. They usually buy a large quantity each year to stockpile and the sells (gives away) the old stuff that is still good to countries like India and Russia.

  • Only in America

    Less wheat = same demand for less wheat = more wheat planted

    • ValDM

      More wheat planted? So it can burn up too? Sadly, we are getting a glimpse of our future………Russian this year, us next year? Start stockpiling food.

      • dan az

        Valdm
        If I where you I would plant a winter crop because come winter time its going to be a minie ice age if history has its way.

  • Johnnyrite

    Only in America, are you saying it is a zero sum game? If so why are wheat futures so volatile? If you were a wheat farmer your family depended on the size of the harvest and the price of the grain you wouldn’t be so sanguine.

    • Bob

      Our gov’t pays farmers not to grow wheat.

      • Jon

        Bob, I am a farmer and I feel the need to correct you. Your info is about 30 years old. In the current farm program there is no restrictions on what I can plant.

        • Bob Wire

          that’s what I was thinking ~ but I didn’t know for sure, Thanks jon

        • DaveH
          • Denniso

            DaveH is now a farmer too? Economist,engineer,farmer? Impressive,DaveH..

          • dan az

            dipsoid
            whats impressive is his knowledge and research very admirable.As far as you go, you sound like a high school drop out that cant figure out what you want to do with the rest of your life.Am I right?

          • DaveH

            Why should it surprise me that Dumniso practices the Politics of Envy?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Hey denniso, what the heck is your problem with attacking everyone. Just because Dave takes the time to educate himself about matters, is no reason for you to falsely accuse him or accost him of things. He brought up a link, asked a question, and you stick your nose in there trying to stir things up. Cant you just be still for one minute, and leave things be, without attacking? Talk about showing ones liberal colors. Holy cow man.

          • Denniso

            When people lie and manipulate the facts they are open to attack for the damage they do to the unwitting.

    • 45caliber

      The farmer seldom is the one involved in volitale pricing for wheat or anything else. They usually sell before they plant to middle men who are the ones who worry about pricing changes. Further, the government always steps in to insure the farmer doesn’t normally get any benefit from rising prices. Supposedly this is to make sure the farmer doesn’t charge more than the city people can afford. It doesn’t matter what the middle men charge for the food.

  • http://POT Pete Hallock

    No, not pot, POT, the stock..Potash..huge jump on the NYSE..major farming chemical.Indeed, another cycle in grains. It will all come to an end when the rains return. The burning Peat bogs in Russia are apparently wide spread.
    Pete

    • CJ

      The only reason for the jump was a failed buyout offer. When others saw what the acquiring company was willing to pay, they jumped their price up, nothing more.

  • Mark Power

    The Russians need to do the same thing the US did secretly on a mass scale in Vietnam to create rain and in this case flood the North Vietnamese tunnels systems: Start Cloud Seeding with Siver Iodide. The Chinese have 35,000 full time people cloud seeding using anti-aircraft guns to send silver iodide laden airburst shells into the target clouds. They used it to suppress rain during the olympics by raining out clouds on their way towards the games. This was reported in the national Geographic. This is a suppressed technology. The US Navy has dozens of patents (expired) on it. Using this technology allows you to make moisture bearing clouds that wouldn’t otherwise rain do so, and those that would will rain, rain more, a LOT more. The US CREATED typhoons out of nothing during the rainy seasons of the Vietnam war.
    A canadian meteorologist, chemist and inventor held the patents on the most important cloud technology and sued the US government for patent infringement in 1072. Subsequently his house was bugged and there were several attempts on his life.

    • Bob

      Maybe that explains why our weather is so crazy.

      • CJ

        No, solar flairs are contributing a large degree. Have you not heard of the increase in Northern Light activity?

  • http://goggle jimradford

    yes and no to some of the comments being said,first,have the so called goverment that has all the weat stocked piled to be given to the people slowy,and what ever eles that they might have eat more of till they take care of the weat problems because of the heat.second, let the farmers keep what they grow and divide to other famils that would need the food, then see what eles can be done next.

  • patricia

    Anyone ever hear of “seasonal changes”? Granted, it does explain a few things…much more than global warming…!!

    • Bob Wire

      seasonal changes is indeed a broad term and could easily explain way many things. ~ Much like an epidural abrasion might explain an asphalt rash.

      The season are changing ~ but this shouldn’t come as any surprise. One human lifetime is only a cosmic blink in time.

      I had a Uncle that died at 99. ~ He had logged the weather every day of his adult life. ~ he could tell you what he was doing when the head waters of the Brazos flooded lower Texas delta in 1927. He was plowing with a team of mules and before he turned the team back south, he “thought” he seen a glimmer in the far distance. He turned the team and made another pass. As he turn to make another pass, he seen the head waters rushing towards him.

      His records, record a definite drying that continues this day.

      South Caroline ~ has been going though the longest drought since records have been kept. According to tree rings ~ the longest in 350 years. Just about putting them out of the framing business all together, as I understand it.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Allthough the records show that South Carolina has had what they consider a drought for 8 of the last 10 years, its average rainfall is listed as 51.59 inches, which is only beaten by Louisiana with 59.74, Alabama with 56.90, Alaska with 53.15, and Mississippi with 52.82. This would show it to have the 5th most rainfall in inches per year of all the states. Arizona at 7.11 followed by Nevada at 7.87 and New Mexico at 8.91 as the least amount. It is broke down into many categories if you go to http://www.betweenwaters.com/etc/usrain.html and look at the lists there.

        • Bob Wire

          excellent info! and great to understand ~ So we can conclude only that So. Carol is traditionally a very damp state. This ‘drought” has required them to rethink what is and isn’t possible.

          It’s most interesting to note ~ the more we dig ~the greater understanding. There I was feeling so sorry for them!

  • Jaka

    Come on, Jim Radford. The wheat crisis may be severe but your grammar crisis beats it hands down.

    • Bob

      When the UN troops round the people up to put in detention camps they will let you go because of your good grammar.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        When the UN tries that, they will be disbanded by the people and eliminated.

  • http://gmail i41

    Well the pinheads that think cross bred different varieties of wheat and GMO foods are bad, may just have eat dirt. The crossbreeding of human races have given us the marxist muslim moron, who the citizens voted for him, thought and still think he is a such a smart educated clown. In the 70′s when plant gentics were taking off the average wheat yeild on wheat was 15-25 bushels and acre, now it is up to a 100 bu. in a a good year. The hard northern red winter and hard red spring wheat came from over in the Ukraine area in the 1800′s. The pissing over 100 degree temps, it is normal for harvesting wheat in an area from Texas up to the Dakotas, Mont., Neb.,Okla., and Kan. That is genetics at work that produces such fine crops out here, it hass better drought resistance and less straw.. The socialist dems are getting to write the new farm bill to put more productive farm ground in to programs to raise wildlfe, it has been laying idle for over 39 years now. The dems just love big food companies like Cargill, ADM,and their ilk to control the food chain right where it starts, at the ground. Vertical intergration of food supplies is what is going to control prices. Of course the first Sec. of Agriculture appointed by FDR was an admirer of Russian styled ag., which controlled everything,even what time to combine the wheat in the rain from a centerized office. Grain production needs someone on the ground looking at it and checking it to decide what is best. Omoron and his bevy of marxist as-holed lawyers are trying to figure out how to take over private property by passing Congress and allowing the marxist muslim bastard is planning more total control. The puke brained enviors, vegans, and wildlife idoits want to turn our grain producing areas in to a conservancy park called the buffalo commons. Which started in the mid 50′s and gets more intense every decade, as citizens never see how food is produced. Wildlife and parks sure don’t feed people. The reason the USA prime wheat production areas, create such fantastic milling wheat for breads is it is a semi arid grain growing area. Not good for growing corn unless irragated. In the northern areas moisture is from 12-17 inches. Pretty small amount considering some areas get 26- to 38 inches or more. These areas grow soft wheat for products of macaroni. Between the Dakotas and Montana there is several million of wheat ground laying idle that should be producing to build up our stocks ofreserves. USA has a reserve smaller than in the 1930s and 1940s. We have less than 1 months reserves if there was a disaster. Ever since the 2006 elections our overeducated smucks n the Dept. of Ag theorize on yeilds and needs and think food casn be shipped in right away. Just getting away from one farm welfare payment program would free up over 100 billion dollars. Also it would put at least 200,000 people to work and break up the land controlled by corperations, who take home severl million of dollars taxpayers money every year. There are Congress people in congress that own property that get welfare payments besides their 6 figure salaries. All ready socialist dems Sen are looking for comments on increase more idled land programs and more government control over actual producers. When articiles whine about it costs so much in the late 60s and 70′s the use of chemicals was frowned on, in the 80′s to now it is the normto put several chemicals on and itis enforced by making fuel hard to get and afford for every one. The hard wheat areas are usually over areas where oil is. The government now wants producers to produce one product, be it beef, dairy, wheat, corn, pigs, chickens, or sheep. Up to 25 years ago farms were reallt devisified, with beef, pigs, chickens, and sheep, so there was always something to sell and even out the cash flow, now if one crop fails the producer is screwed unless they are under government insurance and government mandated approved methods. The socialist democraps have worked for several decades to get their master plan installed. Still don’t think the Omoron and his radical advisors with the no minded Congress and their communist wing nuts like any wildlife wilderness groups. Still want America to be the land of the free?

    • patricia

      I agree with alot this person is saying, however, I do disagree with the comment about wildlifers being part of the problem. You see, a bona fide member of the Dept. of Inland Fisheries and Wildife has nothing at all to do with environmental people-they are a whole different breed. Their opinions are not necessarily those of the IF&W, so please do not associate the two. It’s like saying park rangers and forresters are the same thing. they are two different departments.

    • Richard Pawley

      If GMO foods are so wonderful why are Americans kept from knowing which are GMO and which are normal or natural? In Europe one has the choice to eat mutations and franken foods, to choose regular, or to eat organic. At least they are told. We are not. As I said in “THE LAST DAYS OF THE LATE GREAT UNITED STATES” (which has a chapter on the coming famine) taking a gene out of a poisonous spider and implanting it into the DNA of corn so the bugs won’t bother the corn is not my idea of good nutrition. Maybe it’s OK you are growing corn for fuel which is a waste of time as it takes as much or more energy to produce as you get out of it, but I certainly don’t want to eat the stuff! How come the Amish have only a tiny insignificant amount of AUTISM whereas in the rest of the country it is considered almost epidemic? How come milk with ARTIFICIAL Bovine Growth Hormones is illegal in most of the major countries on earth (Canada outlawed it because of what it does to the cows much less what it does to us) but our corrupt government says its good enough for us. Every heard of seven and eight year old girls becoming sexually mature? All the hormones given to beef cattle don’t help that either. You can eat this crap if you want to but I’ll go out of my way to avoid it, and all soy products and High Fructose Corn Syrup and ordinary Agave syrup, and monosodium glutamate and white bread, and artificial chemical sugars, and…well, no wonder we spend twice as much as anyone one earth for health care but don’t live as long as some two dozen other countries who don’t have all the cheap inferior convenience foods we have. Now even sugar is made from genetically modified beets so if it doesn’t say “cane sugar” or natural “orgnic sugar” you can count me out, but sadly when the socialists in congress get through with us, unless we vote them out in November, getting any food will be fortunate as it’s going to triple in price due to the hundreds of billions of dollars that congress has squandered. Clinton, Bush, Obama, it doesn’t matter much who is president. It is the Pelosi-Reids (rhymes with loco-weeds) that push all this stuff on us. Do they think they will be exempt when they crash the system? If so I’d like to know how.

      • Richard Pawley

        By the way, even the Bible says that cattle should not be cross-bred and science has discovered that the milk from certain pure breeds is much healthier than from some others.

  • freeus

    Seeing Potash rise this morning on FBN, and it seems there is a hostile takeover attempt. Makes sense the stock would rise considering the direction things are headed. However, what I wonder is will the U.S. allow more planting of wheat considering to date, the federal government has been more about controlling the citizens and NOT doing practical things which would in days past be done in order to aid our citizenry. One example would be the healthcare insanity, and another would be the Financial Responsibility Act, and the last example as of late would be allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire. None of these things add up to an Administration making moves in the future to plant more wheat to make sure Americans have plenty of wheat, or to financially capitalize on the Russian wheat contracts the Russians are not going to honor.

    Another factor I read about a month ago is the USDA admitting they have under planted things like wheat, rice, and corn by some 300 million acres. Swell. If true, Americans are in serious trouble, as well as the most impacted regions of the wheat shortage via Russian contracts like Europe, and parts of Africa. Some Middle Eastern countries could be severely impacted as well. It does not take much to create a scenario in one’s mind where those currently ruling America would decide to say give much needed American grains to places who have not been our allies, but instead said grains were needed greatly here at home rather than being shipped elsewhere. There are some people in Washington who have written books about eliminating part of our citizenry by poisoning the water supply, and suggested in their books that the elderly would need to go. There are some people around the current Administration who were participants with a group of folks who thought it would be a good idea to say get rid of about 25 million Americans so THEY could rule America. What greater way to do so than to pull a Stalin? Sound insane? If so, I refer you to the decision yesterday to no longer offer certain breast cancer drugs to women who have not responded to other treatments. Another example would be the rationing of healthcare which is already taking place when it comes to our elderly. My point is that a government which currently controls almost the entire private sector, can and will decide what to do with American grains without considering the needs of “We the People”.

    Something wicked most definitely this way comes.

    Excellent article by the way. Dittos to most of the comments.

    • Bob Wire

      some of that data seems to be at conflict regarding production ~ but yes, is was a good article.

  • atlas reborn

    when government gets involved in anything it goes to pot. governments only jobs are to protect the people from outside threats, and to enforce the laws of the country and to coin money and regulate the value there of. read the constitution and you will see. when government tries to do what they are not supposed to do (and things they do not understand) they are practicing folly. when people do stupid things it affects the indivivual who did the stupid thing. when government does stupid things strange and evil things happen to all. just look at what happened when lincoln violated the constitution and went to war with the south who had the right to leave the union. the federal government took power from the states that they had no right to and we ended up with a federal dictatorship which is going to be a total totalerian dictatorship with no rights . values go out the door and vodoo rules. remember the states were superior the federal government and you had to get concensus from the majority of states. it was extremely hard to do so foolish things did not happen. when the northern states tried to impose tarriffs on the south they blocked it. when lincoln was elected they knew that they were in for and extremely rocky future, so rather than continualy fight with the north it was in their the souths best interest to leave peacefully. Lincoln was dead set on war to keep them in the union. but we were founded on freedom and the right to leave. we lost freedom when the north under lincoln went to war. peace and freedom was lost. as we do now we never agree on freedom or socialism. socialism is allways favored by leftists, and freedom lovers always get shafted. government is the problem.

    • 45caliber

      I see there are a few people who understand what happened then. Too many are brainwashed about slavery … which was never an issue in the South.

  • Deborah

    America will see the same. Our farmers have been under minded, water ways diverted away from farmers and their fields, flooding around the US and all the stuff we give away or has been “designated” for foreign use.
    We face the same.
    Obama said we could not trade with farmers….wonder why he said that?

    • 45caliber

      Farmers have been controlled by the federal government since the government was started. The first reason was that the prices needed to be controlled to prevent the farmers from starving city people by raising the prices too high. But most farmers barely get by. The only “farmers” who get rich are those huge companies who not only can get the prices they want but also get the government handouts that are supposed to go to farmers.

      • Bob

        Cargill, Con Agra and Archers Daniel Midland. Soon they will control all the food.

      • DaveH

        There need be no controls to prevent farmers from starving the city people. Supply and Demand in the Free Marketplace sees to that. There will always be farmers (or companies) that seek greater market share to step in and undersell those farmers (or other manufacturers) who get greedy and try to overprice their products.
        Free Markets allocate goods and services far more efficiently than do Government Bureaucrats. With Government involvement we not only get politically motivated distortions in the marketplace, but we also get to pay their exorbitant salaries. A double whammy.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Thats right. If the government stays out and doesnt regulate in favor of one over the other, we all will have the freedom to go and buy from the guy with the best deal that suits us, not being forced to pay a certain price by some government run thing. No one forces me to shop at a certain store. The free market system should dictate that if you do a good business and are fair you will flourish. If your greedy and high priced, people stop shopping there, and you go out of business. And as long as the government stays out of the way, its better off for us common joes that way.

  • truesoy

    And I thought global warming was a ‘liberal conspiracy’. I am gonna have to ask Rush for my money back!!!.

    • denniso

      I hope Limbaugh gags in the smog of the fires…

      • DaveH

        That is so funny coming from a guy who earlier lectured us about our lack of compassion.
        It usually isn’t long before ignorant Liberals out their true behavior.

      • Claire

        Limbaugh–What a waste. I can’t stand this person.

        • Denniso

          Limbaugh deserves no compassion…he’s one of the single worst detriments to our entire society,laughing all the way to his bank while he tries to destroy the fragile economic recovery.

          • Claire

            Mannerisms is what either turns me on or turns me off. I will not debate Limbaugh. I have said my piece and that’s it.

          • Bob Wire

            Me too Claire ~ but I’ll not discount his effectiveness though I despise the person so, as he appeals to the lowest common denominator among us.

          • Denniso

            Limbaugh is almost as effective as was Goebbels,Hitler’s propoganda minister. Limbaugh just isn’t as smart as was Goebbels,therefore he is destined to remain a clever propogandist w/ some effect on our politics but roundly dismissed by anyone w/ any brains at all. He’s detrimental to the health of our society but more like a big thorn in the butt than a major player.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I have to ask why? I mean, yes, he is opiniated, but what he does, he does it better than anyone. Does he come across as angry? Yes he does. But let me ask you this. If you were attacked and had people unjustly trying to silence you , day in and day out, wouldnt you be a little angry? And Ive never heard him tell a lie. He may come across as a pompous ass to some, but when you know what your saying is true, your very confident about what your saying, and that is how he comes across. He speaks the truth, and he is very passionated about these liberals trying to take down this country he loves. I myself, totally understand him and understand why he is like he is. He is America, and he is under attack, and he is tired of it. All of us should feel this way about the liberal attacks and the muslim attacks that are daily perpetuated upon us. If your not angry about it, then you dont care much about this country. I do, and so does he.

          • Bob Wire

            Well Beberoni, he comes across as intense ! and prone to great embellishment. He has applied Leroy Atwater’s approach of selling the “Package”. ~ leaving little room for resolve or resolution in the process.

            He poisons the well of good faith and then expects a parlay ? I don’t think so!

            You don’t taught and expect meaningful cooperation from your adversary.

            He’s all stick and no carrot!

            The thing is, ~ “Two can play this game” so we now have a rock fight!

            somebody need to be reasonable.

            to be reasonable, you are subject to come under attack.

            It’s like being married to a mean woman, damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

            There a thing called “over sell” and that’s what Rush does.

          • Denniso

            Limbaugh doesnt tell the truth…he mixes particles of it w/ outright lies and spews a blended sort of garbage out. He also makes up and puts out specific lies and spends most of his time generating hate. He is vile and decietful and a master con man whos has become a multi
            millionaire fooling his listeners,who want to be fooled.

    • eddie47d

      Truesoy; Massive fires and drought in Russia; unprecedented flooding in Pakistan and even in Bangladesh;icebergs 4 times the size of Manhattan breaking off in Greenland and in the Antarctic; 1/3 of Arctic melted;hottest June throughout the world. There is no denying global warming when it is right in front of your face. I agree more information is needed to prove the exact cause and how it will effect our future. There is plenty of facts to push it in the right direction and avoid “panic” on the world’s economies.

      • 45caliber

        The iceberg is about the same size as the one that sank the Titanic. And they didn’t have global warming then. Drought has always been with us – we just have better communications now so you hear about it more. Climate has always been varied; it is actually historically unusual to guess what it will be from week to week. And none of this is due to ” man-made global warming”. Actually the global temperature has been going down the last decade. Not that it matters.

      • DaveH

        Okay, I’m going to play devil’s advocate and assume that Eddie’s information is correct.
        Keep in mind that we are in a deep recession, thus producing less and consuming less. It sounds to me like the lessening of carbon dioxide output must be creating Global Warming. We need to get our economy back on track and burn more fossil fuels and cool off the world!

        • DaveH

          Your weak Liberal mind is such an easy target, Eddie.

        • eddie47d

          What kind of backwards nonsense is that?

          • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Linda

            eddie you can’t even see whats coming its gonna be bad you fing ignorant liberal

      • dan az

        eddie
        you better read the dates of those articles they had to take back what they said because of a malfunction in there equipment it wasnt what they thought it was alot smaller

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        1/3 of the arctic did not melt. The ice caps are bigger and thicker than ever. You are erroneous in all your fictitiousness. You sound like Al Gore. Get educated, and learn the truth before you start repeating lies like a parrot of the alphabet networks.

    • Richard Pawley

      Global Warming has been going on for at least a 100,000 years and the liberals wanting to triple taxes will not change it one single iota!

  • Bob Wire

    See if Rush might might pay you back in gold!

    >>”Wheat production in Kansas for 2009 is forecast at 360.8 million bushels. The current forecast is up 6 percent from June 1 and 1 percent above last year’s production.”<>”USDA projects 2010 U.S. winter wheat production at 1.505 billion bushels, compared to June’s estimate of 1.482 billion and the 2009 total of 1.523 billion bushels.”<>”This year Kansas is expected to harvest a record 692.2 million bushels of corn, which would surpass last year’s record crop of 598.3 million bushels.
    That is still well short of the 2.4 billion bushels of corn expected from Iowa’s fields. But the surprise is that Kansas’ corn production now surpasses its signature wheat production, which this year is expected to total 360 million bushels.”<<

    I would like to state ~ I think corn gas is a very bad idea ~ but if it's what spurs the science for greater production perhaps it a mean to an end. For corn is like grass ~ valuable!

    • eddie47d

      Switchgrass is a good source. Brazil has plenty and is using it.

  • Don Rushing

    This is another reason why corn based ethanol should be discontinued
    immediately in the US. It does not work and is expensive and costly
    on vehicle engines and it is totally worthless.

    • dan az

      Don R
      you’ve got that right the reasoning behind it is that when they keep increasing the amount of ethanol the less gas they mix with it the problem lies in jetting and that storage life decreases to about one week in a hang tank which turns into water that dose’nt burn the ethanol evaporates and water remains.Also all the fuel lines desolve and glog up the works.All in the name of profits.

      • Bob Wire

        I’ve have come look at corn gas ~ as welfare for our gain producing state that was on their heels several years back, their economy was drying up. ~ The young were leaving their states or becoming part of a drug culture. ~ as corn gas was sold as part of a “solution” to energy demands.

        It was never about energy, but about getting money to states that needed the work and cash flow. ~ It was better then just giving money away that would have been a much harder sell, I suppose.

        While The ideas has merit ~ but corn is very precious! find something else!

        We are making gold into lead with corn gas.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Not only that, in cold weather climates, it turns to gel and the vehicles wont start or run, like the school buses the greenies in Minnesota decided should run on ethanol, and they all broke down and left kids stranded in freezing temperatures, because no one did their homework to find out that this stuff gels up at 24 degree’s or somewhere right around there. So to keep them from gelling up, they built huge heated garages that they burn oil to heat around the clock to keep the buses warm so they will start, and the ones that wont fit inside, they leave outside running allnight so that they will start in the morning. And they call this green. Amazing. No common sense what so ever.

  • eddie47d

    Stalin is no hero and his policies were gruesome from the get go. Putin can almost be as cruel and ignorant on economics.I certainly hope this isn’t another country we have to save from their disastrous policies.

    • 45caliber

      It will be sooner or later, I’m sure. We made the mistake of bailing out California once (to the toon of 3 billion). And instead of cutting back on their spending it just made them less worried about over spending. Now they want us to bail them out again rather than cut spending now.

    • Bob

      Putin is ex KGB. Don’t confuse them with the Boy Scouts

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Sounds exactly like the obama admin to me.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    John Great observation and information. When Russia was being dimantled and everyone said we do not have to worry about the bear any longer, I kept saying, we have not seen the last of her yet. The Ukraine of all people should have learned their lesson but evidently not. When a bear gets hungry she begins to prowl and I expect Russia to join with Iran and others to move into the middle east to take a spoil but their main purpose will be to destroy Israel. According to Scripture, God will fight for Israel and all those that come against Israel will be destroyed. It will then rain fire on Magog (Russia) and also those that dwell carelessly on the coastland. May I sugggest everyone read Ezekial 38 & 39. It is true, we will either be “a nation under God or a nation gone under.” Henry

    • truesoy

      One thing I am confused about religious preaching is that on the one hand we are told how powerful is God, and how he put us here, and so he has the power to take us out. And then these same people tell us how there will be a war and God will come and fight on the side of his ‘favorite’ people (depending on your religious view on who is favorite). Now, this seem like a contradiction on God’s ability. On the one hand you, religious people, tell us he is powerful, and on the other hand he needs an army of puny humans to fight, of course with his help. Does this make any sense?, I mean, he is so powerful, you said, yet, he can’t save ‘his people’ in any other way but man’s way, by war, with all the killings and suffering in it? Oh, I know the answer: GOd works in mysteries ways, and He knows what he is doing, and we are not to question Him.
      Good, that really requires a total lack of logic, and the absence of any common sense by an individual. But this is what happens when men tries ti define what God is and pretends to know what He is going to do, and why He is going to do it.

      • 45caliber

        It depends upon the people and how much they are God’s. If they follow him closely, then he aids them. But if they drift away, as so many have here in the US, he simply stands back and lets you suffer what you brought on yourself. Once people turn back to him, he helps again. It is sometimes hard on those of us who do believe but when most of the people know nothing of God and insist he doesn’t exist, then it happens. God tends to let you make up your own mind – and make your own stupid mistakes. So don’t blame him on what you do.

        • Richard Pawley

          Well, said, and I would only ad that God’s ‘Favorites’ are any who chose righteosness and truth and mercy and who seek Him. Those who murder and steal and lie are from the ‘dark side’ regardless of what they call themselves. God certainly doesn’t “need” humans but He loves us, wishes us well, and he chose Abraham out of all the peoples in the world in ancient times to reveal Himself and how He works, what He wants, and what he had planned.
          Nowhere in the Christian or Hebrew Bible does it say we are not to question God. Jesus even said, “I would that you were for me or against me but being lukewarm I spit you out.” Pretty harsh words but true ones. What we call the Word of God or the Bible was physically written by dozens of people over hundrerds of years but the wisdom hidden within it, even by the writers, and discernible only by computer, is proof that one mind assembled it all. Even today we do not have the technology to hide all that is hidden in the Hebrew scriptures that has been found there, using computers. In the words of one of our senior code breakers at the National Security Agency, it is clear that the Bible was written by an intelligence far beyond our own. (Look into the Isaac Newton Bible Code Research Society if you have an interest in such things). Whereas the Koran was written by a single individual and says that you are not to question what it says, God, speaking through one of the prophets in the Old Testament, said, “Come, let us reason together”. The God of those who worship the writer of the Koran and the God who made the heavens and the earth are far far apart. Those who know their God are not going to be greatly upset at what congress does and the terrible inflation and food shortages that their nearsightedness is going to cause or even World War III which some believe has already started. They know God is in charge, and that their sincere prayers can have an outcome in history. It is just that they have no desire to brag. While not all have the maturity or experience to have a two way relationship with the Father of us all, it is available to all who truly seek it. One of my favorite books on knowing God is an action packed thriller of just 106 pages, called PRISON TO PRAISE by Merlin Carothers, available in over 50 languages. I even knew one of the people in the book.
          As for the fulfillment of prophecy, you will know it when it happens. The crazy thing Isaiah said dozens of centuries ago, “Who ever heard of such a thing, a nation born in a day,” made no sense until May 14, 1948, when a nation missing from the earth for 2,700 years reappeared in a single day, and not just any nation, but God’s nation, Israel. That and quite a few other prophecies have all come about in my lifetime, and even that found in the hidden parts of the Bible by super-computer confirms that we are in that time called ‘the last days’ or the ‘end of days’ but I am unaware of if we have a generation, a century, or a thousand years until they are over. May God bless the USA, no one else is going to do so. Remember to Vote in eleven weeks, the most important election in 50 years!

          • truesoy

            Though I admire you for your honest believes, in my opinion it will be erroneous to to apply them believes matters of politics. This the way the Bible, and most other religious teachings have been used for, either for the benefit of one country , or its people, over others. This has been, and still is, the cause of many wars, mayhen, and suffering. I, as well many other people believe that it is not right to take others down the war path, or in any other way, based on anyone’s religious believes. Religion ‘reality’ is in the eye’s of the beholder. Religion is man made. This is how kings ruled in the old days. Hopefully we are a more sophisticated, and more educated, and wiser people than those before us. Bytheway no nation rises in one day. The state of Isreal was in the works for many years, and as more jews from europe immigrated to what is now the state of Isreal, the Unite Nations took up the vote, unsuccessfully because the Soviets had veto power and opposed it. Eventually the United States, taking advantage during the Soviet’s boycott of the U.N., put the resolution through without any opposition, and the State of Isreal became official. Going back to the Bible, which is the issue at hand, you also have to talk about a man by the name of Constantine that once was emperor of Rome. And believe it or not, he has more to do with what you read in today’s bible than religion gives him credit for. Because he was the man that put the Bible together. He is the one who decided what goes in the bible and what stays out. For this he appointed a group of people to go over the many bibles throughout his empire, create just one book for the benefit of it. The way I, and many other people see it, the bible is part history, and part story telling with some good advice on how to live one’s life. And I respect your believes to see anything else in it you want, but,I draw the line at the point where your believes puts me, or my love ones, in harms way because of religions quest for a ‘self-fullfilling prophesy’.

          • 45caliber

            truesoy:
            I will pray for you. You really need it. Without God there is nothing to guide you.

    • Jeep

      Mother Russia is in the process of supplying Iran with “nuclear fuel”. Of course, this is only a “benign gesture of freindship and trade”. I guess there goes our new era of friendship and non-prolifiration, thanks prez.

      • Nilap Haras

        You have absolutely NO idea what your talking about. But then I’ve taken notice of that in your posts. Read more, then post. Your opinion can have value, if it has a leg to stand on. Today your opinion only serves to show your complete lack of education and incompetence on the subject. Research, it’s not that hard.

        • DaveH

          Obviously, you are a Liberal. Attack without references. We have no idea what he said wrong. Please inform us, and tell us what you think is right so we can critique it. You know, that’s what decent people do when they debate a topic, unlike the Liberal technique of personal attacks in lieu of facts.

          • eddie47d

            Like your weak attack of me yesterday at 6:56pm. You’re no different and we all fall into that trap.

        • Jeep

          Okay idiot, from the TriCity Herald (and, the AP if you cannot look it up yourself) “Russia announced Friday it will begin the startup next week of Iran’s only atomic power plant, giving Tehran a boost…”

          “Uranium fuel shipped by Russia will be loaded into the Bushehr reactor on Aug. 21, beginning a process that will last about a month and end with the reactor sending electricity to Iranian cities, Russian and Iranian officials said.

          http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2010/08/13/1128983/russia-irans-nuclear-plant-to.html#ixzz0x4JQDMdx

          Suck on that punk…and, wash your hands, they are dirty with the stink of your ignorance.

        • Jeep

          And, lest you in your complete ignorance forget, need I remind you that part of the delay in our invasion of Iraq was due to the Russian scentists involved in Iraq’s nuclear program might be put in harms way. The facts are plain and easily found by all but the lazy progressive thieves that will only throw accusations out as “fact”.

      • Richard Pawley

        Russia has not had a ‘relationship’ of any kind with Iran in a couple of thousand years and there is a prophecy or prediction written a couple of thousand years ago in the Bible using the ancient names for those two countries, that in the end times they would have a relationship. Some who know these things are seeing prophecy fulfilled.

        • DaveH

          Okay,
          somebody is not being factual or honest:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Russia_relations

          • dan az

            Dave
            what do you know facts funny how that works

        • Jeep

          RP, really? What a nut…or, are you just a revisionist. How much do you get paid per stupid post from the DNC?

        • Jeep

          RP, the Russian bear just doesn’t growl as loud as she used to. But, she still has claws, and is very big. Soviet pilots were shot down while trying to kill American soldiers over Korea just six years after we bailed their pathetic butts out of WWII. Soviet “advisors” were all around Vietnam opposing our brave warriors. And, Russian “advisors” were intimately involved in assisting Iraq.

    • John Myers

      Thank you for you kind comments Henry.
      God Bless,
      John

  • 45caliber

    Russia can always do as they did about twenty years ago. They would “borrow” money from the World Bank at 0% interest with an unlimited time to pay it back. (And all the money came from the US for the bank.) They would then “buy” grain from the US stockpiles at about 30% of the actual value. They bought about 3-4 times as much as they actually needed and then sold the extra on the world market. They picked up a bundle of money and fed their people and it didn’t cost them a penny – but the amount it cost us didn’t matter. I don’t remember who was in office here then – but it was reported as helping the starving people of the world.

    Incidently, we already give India about 3 billion a year worth of grain and have for many years.

    • Richard Pawley

      What is incredibly sad is that we have no official stockpile for our
      own people. They have to fend for themselves while the present government is off trying to convert the United States into a Marxist Progressive Socialist new order.

      • Jeep

        Aren’t you the one that likes to quote Biblical references to prophecy? Look at what the Egyptians did with grain stores “centrally located” during some lean years. The people started by giving grain to the govt so it could be equally distributed…then, when the grain ran out, they “centrally located” their livestock, then that ran out…and, the people starved. Hmmm. I think that we could learn something about “centrally locating” anything with the govt, such as money, grain, power, etc.

      • truesoy

        Marxism and socialism are two incomparable systems. Marxism kills socialism, that is why there are are no socialist countries that also are comunist, even if they assumed that name, but, on the other hand there are capitalist countries that are also socialist. The reason is that socialism needs, to survive, the means of production and wealth generated by capitalism, none of which are found under communism.

  • 45caliber

    Also, the 1930 or so famine in Russia under Stalin was mostly faked. According to a Russian woman I used to know years ago, the real problem was that Stalin decided that there were too many peasants who weren’t doing their share of work. He cut off sections of Russia to starve to teach them a lesson. That was the REAL famine cause then.

    • Richard Pawley

      Eleven million starved to death in the Ukraine during that time but I have found that even people who have lived through such times don’t always know the why of it. I knew a woman who became an American after WWII and I was fascinated as a youngster that she still believed that Hitler got a bad rap and had done a lot of good for Germany.

      • DaveH

        Just as there are here. People cannot be expected to know everything that goes on around them. Especially when their sources of information aren’t being necessarily honest. All we can do is learn as much as possible and use that knowledge and experience to personally weed out the wheat from the chaff.

      • dan az

        Richard
        I’ll bet she’s a liberal today

        • Claire

          My son has an elderly Russian couple that are his neighbors. “Olla” is her name, I can’t remember the man’s name. Anyway, this lady always bakes goodies for my son. She has been to my house to see my yard/dogs and she always talks about how happy they are that they came to America. She and her husband have been here for over 50 years. I would guess they are in their early eighties and both of them are sharp-witted and active. Anyway, my point is that this Russian couple is truly grateful that they are in America.

  • cerebus23

    corn gas or ethanol is very inefficient, scientists have been working to not only make the process more efficient but to be able to use the stems leaves and other parts besides the corn to make ethanol, but that is like a 3 or 4 steap process that is very time efficient and takes a good bit of time and is not anywhere near ready for real use.

    corn is used in everything in food production period. why this was never even seemingly thought of by the brainiacs in the federal government when they passed ethanol mandates is just beyond belief.

    cattle feed on corn, sweeteners are made from corn, breads, breakfast cereals, and on and on. so mandate ethanol just about every food price shoots up coupled with gas prices shooting up you created a near perfect storm to create a food cost crisis and effect the entire world in the race to biofuels that are not ready for prime time production.

    i hold that this plus the housing bubble and government loan interference were all direct causes that triggered a global economic meltdown.

    bin landen and co does not need to do a damn thing to collapse our economy the federal government is doing fine on their own.

    we should have invested in biofuel research to make the process more efficient and experiment on other bio sources like corn weeds, hemp probably alot of things that with some work could be used for biofuels why we are limiting ourselves to corn is just silly, but if corn is the magic bullet we need to get to the point we can use the entire plant and not toss most of it out and only use the food source part.

    with the research going full bore in 5 or 10 years maybe biofuel would have been ready for mass production and get us off the oil teet.

    far as global warming goes go by some carbon offsets if you believe in that crap. form the un fudging temp data, from reserachers cherry picking temp data to create false temperature maps, to the good old 70s when the same researchers were saying global cooling was going to off us all. to the fact that the world is still recovering form the last ice age and the fact there is little or no actual real data to say that we have done anything that is overriding the planets natural cycle of getting warmor and cooler and solar effects that cause el nino and la nina, and the fact that all of our temperature data covers a very brief moment of time on the entire history of our planet that is seem rather laughable that anyone would give any creedence to global warming alarmists.

    governments should have grain reserves like we have oil reserves for emergencies. it would make as much common sense.

    and after all the major blow to global grain and corn production is coming in the next 30 years or so when the mid west aquifer that provides water to most of the farms in the midwest and water for many of our desert western states runs dry. that is a real looming man made crisis and hardly every given much mention.

    • DaveH

      A lot of wisdom in your comment. But we shouldn’t trust Government to be the caretakers of those reserves. Chances are that they will cherry-pick who gets to partake of those reserves when the calamity comes. It would be much better to encourage the individuals to stock an emergency supply like the Mormans are taught to do. That way we don’t need to rely on the Full Faith and Credit of the US Government (who are just people).

  • Delores Smith

    AL GORE,
    Someone spotted you in Russia setting fires. This will not prove global warming.
    Delores Smith

  • http://gmail i41

    Paterica, go look at the restrictions on even a gully or a draw, the theory of game fish and parks, and some of their dumb assed rules and land management. I could have one cow on 10,000 acres. If I confine her in a 40 acres pasture durning the winter and feed her hay, even if it native harvested grass for over 45 days I must go and get a manure management approval permit from the ASCS office. Agriculture Soil Conservation and Stablization. Same goes for weaning calves and back grounding them for 90 days before turning them out them, or raising pigs as a free range butchers. What smuck Prex created the Confined Animal and Livestock on Feed Ordance (CALFO) Program, it was Whorehound Clinton and Interior Sec. Bruce Blabbitt and their college wonks who dreamed the mess up. Which was right after he made a wilderness area out of the largest coal feild in the world.. Most of the idoits are the college trained book theory beleiving morons.In early 1993 I was setting up a rock quarry in SW Wyo., and had to deal with some Cal. college Earth Envior idoits, on a peiceof ground that wouldn’t support 2 goats, the Red Desert is dry and these clowns were claiming srubbery would grow in the slopes and at one time trout were there. They may have enons ago but their idea it could be done now. There subset of workers and boards are failed rachers and farmers who live in town or on the edge. Trying to say the envio and wildlife clowns are tied together is like saying BLM and Forrest Service are totally different is bull.
    You all are part of the Dpartment of Interior and all have te same agenda.You monitor water quality and so does the BLM, Forrest Service and Grassland Protection. When The state GF&P Weren’t going to notify landowners of they were coming one private property, we sealed it off. Several game wardens were told up front give us a call or you will get stopped and dropped. Over the years instead of working or tring to gewt along with propoerty owners, the book trained Barney Fifes think they own everything since states say they own the wildlife, they can but we feed the damn things, the acres of crops that get ruined every year increases. Also for crop damage you might get a 100 dollars even though several thousand dollars of crops is destroyed. All of these organizations piss taxpayers money away and create more impedements for every business. Since the Dept. of Interior is planning stradgy to confiscate private land that is close to or beside goverment land. Now government own every 4 acre in America, and cann’t take care of what it own. The plan is to do it with an executive order, with out needing the Congress to vote on it. It is going to be an ugly confrontation and it is time to annul the alphabet soup agencies. The last thing the envior wonk desk jockies have come up with is fencing out grassy draws to cows and don’t fence so the deer can crap in the drainage areas. Every state has some Conservation Reserve Program land idled being pay taxpayers money to lay idle. Still lover those marxist democrat bastard that want government ownership over land and businesses? Also every state has a federal Game Warden who made the statement he didn’t need a search warrarnt to go on private property, until his pickup stopped functioning on private ground.

    i

    • dan az

      I have dealt with these morons half my life thats why I live in the middle of no where now to protect them from me enough is enough just asked the riddled trucks of the county or any one else that crossed my land.

  • http://gmail i41

    To ones having a fit about ethanol and the expense, the expense is the damn government regs/ Several years ago around Peirre South Dakota, there was a plan to put a closed loop ethanol pant, which ethonal uses #2 feed grade corn not human injestion grade, so ther is you first foul up, this closed loop would create ethanol using water from the Oahe Dam, that would be piped several miles, after the fermation process, the silage or still would go right over to fattening livestock, which were on slats so manure would not pile up and bother the livestoc, the manure would go to a sealed fermentor, so there would be no oders, to create methane gas to heat the ethanol plant fermenters. Producers of livestock and corn would be able to ship by rail or truck. Over a $100 million from small investors from 9 states were involved, it would of put 100s of people to work both growing crops and livestock and the care of the facility. But another tax cheat Senator who had promised to help get it going. Lied, since he was the Sen. Majority leader. Some greased him up good in the beltway to have amental laspe or maybe it is imgrain socialist mind.. As for regulations costs, permitting is a hell of a cost before you ever produce something, alsoyou cannot transport green or fresh stillage to your livestock unless it has been dried and pelletted at the plant, to do that a several million dollar air collector system must be installed anfd approved, even though the particles are biodegradeable. Cellalose ethanl has such a high tansport cost with fuel and permit costs. The USA’s beef production is way down since some much pasture land both federal owned and private land is either idles by the wildife pee brains and the CRP taxpayer supported welfare rats, alos the reservations that are not utalized except of dream land crap. Same goes for all the damn parks on wildereness areas, lots of land off the tax rolls and if in government control, quit costly. USA always had wheat and grain reserves until the last 20 years, in 2007 in Mar. USA had less than a weeks wheat reserves. The sh-t brains you can thank for higher food prices are the marxist democraps, I always though Onumnut was more like Hilter, but I think he is more like Stalin, always in a crisis from his bumbling and ruminating, on his cud, theorizing, instead of doing things that are proved to produce posistive results, I think Putter Putin and Oslama Obamee are going to try and be the east and west dictators, What pair of smucks.

    • Nilap Haras

      i41, you are simply a Bombastic Blow-hard. You say things that are not only false but anti american. You forget the posters of Bush and Hitler in Europe. You would do the same….here…..in America. You are a disgrace to my country. You fight with slurs, no substance. you ARE a schmuck.

      • Bob

        I guess he made all that up. Why don’t you tell us your theory.

        • Nilap Haras

          His “THEORY” of comparing Obama to Hitler works for you? What is wrong with you? Stop guessing and be proactive, the slurs only hurt the cause.

          • DaveH

            Obama is like Hitler. He is a Socialist like Hitler. He wants to create a civilian security force (think Brownshirts) like Hitler. He wants to force his way on other people like Hitler. And he is fanatically supported by his followers like Hitler.

          • dan az

            Dave
            that worked for me

          • Bob Wire

            No he doesn’t want to create such a force ~ while I understand the “sound bit” you got the notion from. Saying such things all you want too, won’t make it so.

            The creation of Home Land Security was about a close to Nazism as we’ve seen on the part of the American government . While I sure didn’t approve of it’s creation, I wouldn’t refer to Bush as a Nazis! but only a leader faced with a unique problem and finding need to address it.

            Instead of asking the CIA and FBI, why is this airplane sticking out of “my Pentagon” and some heads rolling. He decided the answer to failures of government security required more government!

            That doesn’t make him a Nazis ! That makes him GW Bush, 43′rd President of America.

            To date, O bum’a has yet to repeat such a blunder.

          • DaveH

            Bob Wire,
            Here it is from the Donkey’s mouth:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s&feature=related

            And Bob, you have surely read enough of my comments to know that the Big Government Freedom Grab is not acceptable to me regardless of which party they belong to.

        • Bob Wire

          yea! pretty much ! a made-up summary.

          and land setting idle is vital resource. For in truth it’s not idle but regenerating . It’s imperative to always have large expanses of land “idle”. This is not the first time the human eye has been fooled on such matters.

          The rolling plains of Texas Hill country fooled LBJ’s forefather in much the same way when they migrated to Texas in the early 1800′s. Since the native grass was tall as the cattle’s back and seemed good for grazing , they decided to settle there.

          Unbeknown to them, it had taken 100 years for the grass to grow that tall and surface soil only inches thick and covering limestone rock.

          The land was never to support the amount of cattle they envisioned and hoped for as the regeneration process was so slow. Inside 5 years it was grazed down and erosion took over and is what we see it today, rugged and rocky rolling Texas plains as far as the eye can see. It must have been quite an impressive sight to the early pioneers.

          Corn gas is using good land to create an inferior product and any “savings” of resources marginal at best. ~ But it is pumping vitality into a region of our nation that is very important to us and must be supported less it’s infrastructure come to disarray and becomes ineffective. Like the “key maker” in the “Matrix” our gain belt has a clear purpose.

          Let us just not “get lost” in the production of grain fuel. Least wise in a nation so rich in natural gas that “can do” the heavy lifting much more effectively.

    • USA PRIDE

      You have every right to free speech. That doesn’t GIVE you the right to abuse it. That’s not what our forefathers fought for. Get off your soapbox and keep it REAL. All I see is another Bigot that makes all Republicans look bad.

      • DaveH

        I haven’t seen any references to Republican in his comment. Am I missing something?

      • dan az

        usa pride
        I dont think he’s a republican more a conservative like the rest of us here.

        • Bob Wire

          Hmm? So the “Conservatives” are going to offer us a candidate?

          and want banner might they fly?

          • DaveH

            Bob,
            Have you read the Libertarian Party Platform?
            http://libertarianparty.org/platform

          • Bob Wire

            Dave H, ~ hmm? that 350 page Libertarian manifesto? I admit I did not read it all Dave, but yes I did go through it. I found it agreeable in context and spirit.

            But I must confess, ~ I don’t have a problem with what republicans SAY!

            I only have a problem with what they “DO”

            I’m most willing to support what they “say”

            The devil has always been in the details and implementation.

            I’ll place my money on a “track record” every time.

            The Libertarian needs a “track record” ~ it seems they are coming to the Table without one. Maybe it’s high time to create one.

            And thanks dave for your link ~ and for this one as well,

            >>”"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” (emphasis added)”<>”Obama, July 2, Colorado Springs, CO: [As] president I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots [from 75,000] and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals, like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their effort connected to a common purpose.

            People of all ages, stations and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem – they are the answer. So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an energy corps, to conduct renewable energy and environmental clean-up projects in their neighborhoods all across the country.

            We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, and to be there for our military families. And we’re going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.

            We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. We need to use technology to connect people to service. We’ll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where American can browse opportunities to volunteer. You’ll be able to search by category, time commitment and skill sets. You’ll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities.

            This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda and make their own change from the bottom up.”<<

            It was a "I have a Dream" stump speech !

            That some wish to see "Brown Shirts" in such an address ~ I can not stop them.

            Foolishness knows no boundaries, is not restricted by race, creed, color, party affiliation or education.

            I see these efforts as disingenuous Horse Manure being spread about by the "right" to appeal to simpler minds for political gains and there is little more to it then that.

        • Bob Wire

          Yep , if I was to write a book, that’s the way it would read.

          “Go against me and you play with fire.’

          So? are some of us in agreement pure Capitalism has it own unique short coming’s in the virtue department?

          Most here, seem more willing to accept the benevolence of the wealthy and big business before they would government.

          Why? I’m not exactly sure. They must know something I don’t know.

          perhaps they are vested in some way, hold so fear I don’t share.

  • paul

    read weather warfare

    • USA PRIDE

      VERY scary stuff. My mind just doesn’t want to go there. I really, really, really want it to be a conspiracy theory.

  • Robert Bell

    Well gee I thought it was Russia. Why negate them by the former CCCP label? Are they our enemy? Why would we want to mimick Stalin? If my neighbor and I were growing crops and I had a good year and he didn’t I would give him what I could so he wouldn’t starve. Is “Money” the basis for how we live our lives? Don’t forget that the day may come when they can return the favor. Lets practice what we preach. Lets keep helping those in need when we have an abundance and it will come back to us in kind!

    • USA PRIDE

      I agree, but unfortunately it’s a hard sell for a majority of the Right Wing. Our government (right or left) seem to be on the lower end of humanitarian efforts “respectively”. If Americas private sector didn’t contribute, America would seriously look greed stricken.

    • DaveH

      Keep on Hoping and Dreaming, Robert. First of all you are talking about voluntary contributions on your part. That’s great. But Government doesn’t deal in voluntary contributions. Government is Force.
      Tell Greece about how giving people something for nothing comes back to the givers (involuntary at that). Rather, the reality is that after being given something for nothing, most people will come to expect it and instead of being grateful, like spoiled children, they will throw a fit and maybe even harm those who want to quit giving.

  • atlas reborn

    i41 you have what it takes to be a true constitutionalist. you know what is happening and are willing to get involved and know what to do legally to interfere or stop evil stupidity. keep going and if enough of us do what is right we will win and survive. ONWARD

  • J.MAHONY

    poor little obomkin ,huh ? ain’t that right huh ? , USA PRIDE you tell em! You know all about our forefathers don’t you? yes you do !!! ABUSE that wonderful guy ,why that is just awful, cause he has done so much good ,even if we did’nt want it.

  • http://ordy@fedtel./net Eric g

    First of all 7 dollars a bushel is not to high of a price this day and age . Another thing Putin is not the top m,an ruling Russia . And if you want to know the truth there are way more communists in western europe and United States than eastern europe . Putins United party of Russia has been building more christian churches while the western countries are expanding their mosques . You can rarely trust the news , my predictions there is ample wheat this yr . but the poorest people wont have enough money to buy it unless we help them . Most starvation isthe result of war .

  • J.MAHONY

    Boy, NILAP ,TALK ABOUT SLURRING !YOU ARE REALLY GOOD AT IT.

  • http://gmail i41

    nilap, are you saying my FACTS on ag is b–l s–t? So lets see what airy fairl dust you have twix your ears, Puke brains like you can not see the similarity between Hitler on disarming the citizens, even if it a right to keep and bear arms. Taking private lands for profits for you buds or government to control food production, which Onumnutts more like Stalin for dening private land owner ship, which all socialist democrats have wanted since the 1900s. Still following you mindless moron, The first Sec of Ag loved the Russian methods of communal government controlled farming which are still ingrained in Russia. The control of wildgame and permits for hunting goes back to the elitist privilaged classes. I realize all of you marxist needle nosed numskulls like to live like a bunch of rats in a sewer. Studies have proven you crowd rats too tightly and the males get queer and the mothers kill their young. Ever liberl demorat squeaks and ruin every thing they touch, which is what government programs do, every damn program created by the government fails, costs many times more than projected, and is just a giant snafu. nilap any other thing you want to prove I am blowing smoke on, point them out and prove me wrong, or shut you marxist loving pie hole and go to Russia!

  • J.MAHONY

    Should get this clock fixed !it was’nt 7pm it was some where around 5pm that I snipped at Nilap for being so ,well you know !!!

    • DaveH

      Maybe they operate out of UTC-04 (time zone) which includes:
      Nova Scotia, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, Trinidad and Tobago, Amazonas, Bolivia, Continental Chile, Paraguay.

    • Right

      Or maybe it’s just a fluke of the system – I wouldn’t worry about it -

  • Claire

    For everyone’s info if they feed this dog food to their pets–Iams dry dog food and Eukanuba dry dog food has been recalled–
    “possible salmonella” —this happened August 5th and I just got the letter today. I haven’t checked the stock numbers since I do not feed these brands to my dogs. Wonder if the ingredients are from China? I thought I would pass this on just in case.

    Also, eggs from Iowa has been recalled-check it out.

    • DaveH

      Claire, a true humanitarian. Unlike the many Pharisees that populate this board pretending to be.

      • libertytrain

        DaveH – yep – that’s why we all love and respect her.

        • Claire

          libertytrain–And I love and respect you guys too! I honestly care about the people on this site. I find it amazing–this is the only site I participate in. I will be here a year next month and gosh, have I learned! I have become a “warehouse” of knowledge!! But at least I can keep up with my husband and my son! They know everything that is going on– on a daily basis–and this is good.
          Oh, I hear soldiers are being pulled out of Iraq and sent to Kuwait–I have to watch the news tonight.

          • dan az

            claire
            What about me?
            the bad speller with the radical opinions and lame posts damn put down again!

          • Claire

            dan az —I do not have a problem with you or anyone else on this site–we all have our opinions and we do have freedom of speech. Lame and radical posts? I think I have posted a few too. Bad spelling? Heck I am an editor. I am more relaxed during off hours, but when I am at work I am on my “best behavior.” Seems like when I post on this site I am always in a hurry. I have to boil those chickens–remember?! lol Thank the good Lord for weekends.

          • libertytrain

            dan AZ – you’re ok by me too – :)

      • Claire

        DaveH– You know, I am so sick and tired of contaminated food!! I try to cook as carefully as I can, I try to buy all organic veggies, etc. plus eggs from range chickens–all from an organic farmer northeast of Springfield. I have to admit, I am getting like my husband–he hates the smell of boiling chickens!! I boil them for the dogs! I have 4 big stock pots and I boil 2 chickens in each pot. Every other night I boil chickens. And I cook oatmeal for the dogs. And I get brown rice from Food Fantasies. I drink soy milk, YUCK! I buy lots of yogurt for myself AND the dogs. And salads!! And I have “stir fry” coming out the ears. Bob said the other night he would kill for a good steak so we are going out Saturday night so he can have a steak! My household is almost laughable. I am not complaining, I am getting goofy!

        • libertytrain

          Claire – I saw the thing on the soldiers as well. I have 10 more days and my soldier gets to be in country again. I’m so looking forward to her year in Afghanistan to be over — and I’m glad for all moms and dads who are getting their soldiers back to this country as well.

          • Claire

            libertytrain–Ten more days! Oh Happy Day!! I will be so glad for you and your girl! And the toddlers! Will your daughter be home for good? I hope so. I want all soldiers to be brought home. Now.

          • libertytrain

            She’ll be at her post in this country until next summer when they move to their next duty station – in Europe. The whole family goes then, (and the dogs :) )

          • Claire

            libertytrain–Good, at least she will be home for awhile. Europe–Wow, I was hoping she would stay here in the States. But at least all of them will be together. Good luck and my best wishes to all of you! Ten more days–you will be doing the “Happy Dance.”

          • libertytrain

            Claire – yeah kind of a long “drive” to visit them BUT the main thing is they will be together as a family unit for three years at least – (I hope)

  • Claire

    Fox News gave one million to the Republican Governors Association-I suspect everyone knows but thought I would post it anyway.

    • Denniso

      None of the rightwingers want to comment on that because it doesn’t look good for Fox…doesn’t make them look very journalistic or independent,does it? And all of the rightwingers will just keep on watching and citing Fox as a credible reference…pathetically transparent,but they don’t care.

      • DaveH

        What is pathetically transparent, Dumniso, is your far-left zealotry.

        • Denniso

          You and your buddies have no problem w/ Fox giving a million$$ to the Repub governor’s association?? Just think a little about possible conflict of interest…don’t strain yourself,as I know you need to keep Fox on your side,so denying the obvious to objective people will only make you and the others look like pure fools…that’s OK,because you can still watch Fox and believe everything they say,if it keeps you content and untroubled in your mind.

    • Bob Wire

      Rupert Murdock has been paying out big time in other area as well. Hush Money, as Fox has resorted to unscrupulousness means and ways to gain information, along with many other “shifty and shady deals” I’ll not post a link, rather to let you dig for it as I had too. ~ but I will offer you a clue, “nielsen reports” is a nice place to start and it turning into a Alice in Wonderland rabbit trail that goes far beyond nielsen reports.

      But whatever many for you find out about your most beloved “FOX” media outlet, I doubt if it will change your point of view. ~ For they are only attempting to support and validate what you “wish” to hear.

      AS you have install the ring in to own nose to be lead about by a political machine that offers resistance to the current administration as he threaten their position and profits.

  • Claire

    Global warming? I wonder about it–especially because of the storms we have had this spring and summer. The tornadoes, never used to have them here where I live. Now every time it storms, there are tornado warnings/watches. And we have been hit a number of times. Minnesota has been bombarded with twisters and tornadoes. I still think there is change in the weather. And yes, I KNOW they are called “Seasons” but spring and summer here has been different. More volatile.

    • DaveH

      Claire,
      Climate Change and Homogenic Climate Change are two different animals.

      • Claire

        DaveH–Okay, fine. But I still think the “climate” in my neck of the woods has changed.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Claire, I remember as a kid, we had damn hot summers, and then there were a few years, we had to postpone Christmas Day because, it was the coldest and snowiest on record, and we couldn’t get out of the driveway!__I think seasons do change too, but only in the realm, that some summers are hotter than others, and the same for winters__Science to me is nothing more than theory, an opinion of whats going on, by someone who claims to be a scientist. I believe climate is a Great Mystery as are a lot of other things in the world, and we’ll never know everything about it.

          • Claire

            Angel Wannabe— I remember the bad winters and hot summers too. It is just that we never had tornadoes here. Now we do. Part of me thinks something has changed–the other part pays no attention and accepts it for what it is. lol

          • truesoy

            Claire, he knows best ’cause he heard it from Rush, Beck, and friends.

      • Denniso

        I think the wordsmith DaveH means ANTHROPOGENIC…homogenic is the name of Bjork’s album and slightly unrelated to human activities.
        Keep trying,DaveH…

        • Bob Wire

          Hmm? ~ those 25 cent words ! can be tricky ~

          Weather, for more of us , Is “where we are” ~ and we kinda look at it that way.

          It’s natural for all things to change ~ the problems occur when the change is rapid and exceed normal boundaries and “stays”, affection a particular area.

          The human body and other living things has limits to what they can withstand and adjust for. These margins are small. One degree could be the difference between living or dieing. Like a cliff edge, one more inch and you fall into the abyss, never to return.

          • Denniso

            True…at some point humans can’t adapt quickly enough. Food production,fresh water,disease,all are very important in the short run. It’s simple enough to imagine weather related disasters affecting
            food production for the 61/2 billion people on the planet…to many people start going hungry and we have an international problem w/ hordes going after places that have food. The Limbaugh plan is that humans will just adapt and technology will save us. Sure…

    • http://none Alex

      Fright Wingers still do not understand the difference between “climate” and “weather”. ‘Tis a pity…

      • http://none Alex

        Also–the idea of you people hoping to capitalize on starvation is beyond belief….ummm, well, actually not, considering so many of the very nasty posts I find on here.

        Capitalists have no shame, will elbow children out of their way to the trough, will, in fact, sell the Socialists the rope we which they are hung.

        Making money off of starvation?!? Jesus, what would Christ say about you people?

        • Denniso

          First of all, there is a sort of perverse genius to capitalism that we don’t usually get taught or hear discussed in most media. The fact that capitalism can make money on almost anything,including the worst tragedies. A hurricane destroys an entire region and then employment goes up for rebuilding and, of course, prices rise in response to increased demand and increases the profit margin of suppliers. And now, the price of wheat is rising because of the tragedy in Russia and all farmers and wholesalers will reap larger profits for a while.
          Rather than being a ‘divinely inspired’ system,it could appear that maybe it was designed by the Devil.

          Secondly, to all the pretend ‘free marketeers’ out there from DaveH to the spirits of Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman, there is no such thing as a ‘free market’…never was and never will be,except at the smallest of levels…street vendors for example. It’s a bit like some sub atomic particles,which are created in a collision and runfree for a split second and then,poof,there gone. If gov’t is not involved,then very quickly one or more companies rises above the others and then use their strength to corral the market and establish a monopoly or duopoly. Then they drive the others out of business or dictate terms for their existence…hence, no more free market. Which is precisely why Teddy Roosevelt made a name as a monopoly buster. Around the turn of the century most of our business was controlled by a handful of giant companies…price fixing terrible working conditions and more were normal and dictated by a few companies. Roosevelt set out to break up the largest and establish rules in the interest of introducing more of a free market into industry…it worked and it didn’t take long before we were the leading economy in the world…of course,we still didn’t hav ‘free markets’,since now the gov’t had more of a role in controlling big biz,but it certainly worked better and our prosperity flourished.
          Gov’t regulation back then didn’t extend much if at all to the stock market and the giant bubble of everyone investing on slim margins couldn’t be sustained and, boom…the great market collapse and depression.
          Even w/o direct gov’t controls on the ‘markets’,all modern gov’ts have a huge impact in the market that again renders it not free. Military spending all by itself impacts all markets(oil,food,clothing,auto,airline…)very substantially and again makes them not ‘free markets’.

          Milton Friedman’s and DaveH’s ‘free markets’ are a figment of their imagination and as illusory as any leftwing utopia they rant against.

          You’re welcome for the lesson,DaveH,Rush Limbaugh and the ghost of Miltie Friedman.

  • Claire

    Seeds of starvation–I have two homes stockpiled with food and the necessities. I am ready. Come what may, I am as prepared as I can get. But then again it will probably never be enough. These are the times that tries mens’ souls and their wallets.

    • Denniso

      If people put as much energy and even money into fixing and saving society,maybe we wouldn’t feel the fear that induces us to stockpile food. If things really collapse all the food and weapons and ammo won’t stop the millions of people fleeing large cities looking for food…we’re all in this together and we need to realize that the only option is to work together for the common good…there is no other option that will work for more than a few weeks.

  • http://gmail i41

    A bushel of wheat makes about 30 + loaves of bread. I sold wheat for $6 a bushel in the early 70′s. The problem is the government meddling, deciding if play by their rules of total control, you have to sell on the open market. Most farmers are like welfare rats in town, think they are getting some free money, having to have some college punk dumb ass tell you what you can do on private land. IOf you try working with Game and Wildlife they will be all over your place and they all want long term contracts. Just more hooks in your as- by the government.

    • Gnat Wrangler

      Yes Yes. Take nothing from them and ask nothing of them. I receive several USDA news letters from the various counties where I own land. Nothing in them for me. Smells like creeping communism to me. They just want to “help”. Let em “help” by manning a chain saw and clearing some brush for free. “help” would soon be out of their dictionary.

  • Mark

    I am not laughing. Starvation, no matter what the cause, is NOT funny. Why aren’t the Russian’s fighting their fire’s like we do here? What’s their problem? Communism??? No money for fire truck’s, equipment and fighter’s? Gee! We’re laying them off over here. Too bad the dumb Rooskie’s can’t see that their dumb communism DOESN’T WORK!!!!! DUMB ROOSKIES!!!!

    I am glad we are where we are. We have Canada & the artic to our north and a big brown boil on our arse to the south that will get lanced and paved over as soon as we get rid of Obama’s little gaggle of fruit loop’s he has ruining our country right now. November gets one day closer with every passing day. Once we purge Congress of these liberal puke’s, Obummer won’t be able to get anything passed through either house. And come November 2012, it’s back to Chicago with him and his whole nauseating entourage & family. Good riddance to all of them. And for God sake, some one tell Michelle Obama that she IS NOT a beautiful woman. Good Lord!!! WOOF!!!

    • WarriorH

      Can we interest you in purchasing some batteries? Screw the wheat, we’re building batteries.

      • dan az

        Warrior
        are you really building batteries? how many amp hour?

        • truesoy

          Batteries you said?, heck, then, save some for Mark. He needs them to get his brain going again.

    • Denniso

      Mark,you’re just another rightwing racist and a simpleton as well. Your buddies probably don’t like you talking like that just before an election in which Hispanics will play a key role…I’m glad you’re showing your true colors.

  • Stephen Russell

    Outcomes:
    Russia invades China for grains or rice?
    Russia rearms for strikes in E Bloc for food?
    Internal riots.
    UN aids?
    US send wheat shipments like in Cold War 1 (1945-1991)
    Or
    Nuclear War?

  • http://gmail i41

    We we probably slide backwards if we don’t stop thinking we can get by in electric sewing machines instead of using our oil power our equipment. Russia has a very poor road system and cannot move goods or items around like we can in the USA. The idoits that think if we eat organic and eaty like our great grand parents did, people would die from all kindf of fungus and toxins that we can control now. Next time a nuts and berry idoit starts blabbing about chemicals and hormones, they don’t have a damn clue what they are complaining about. When they whining about factory farming, ask them how manty democrats they voted for and how many think USA doesn’t produce safe food, food from foriegn countries use chemicals that have been out lawed for years. Our citizens beleive the democrat media makes all kinds of statemens just like Omoron does knocking what USA does best and produces the most, food and fiber. As for the dead or sick pets, it was Chinese wheatt middens that caused the problem, and as for the salminella in dog food probably under cooked tankage that is mixed with bentonite clay. Mark are you saying with all the taxpayers money spent on flying Big Mamee, she didn’t find the Fountain of Beauty, with that scowl maybe she was tired and used Preperation H insiead of Oil of Olay as a beauty aide!

    • Denniso

      I guess you prefer the appearance of the Stepford wife Laura Shrub…or the grandmotherly Barbara,wife of the first Bush? You are as shallow as a human can get…

      • DaveH

        Guess that excludes you, Dumniso, since you are sub-human.

    • Bob Wire

      ” Democratic Media????” is it now?

      so does that mean there is democrat and republican toilette paper as well?

      do you have a clue to just how polarized you have become?

      i41 you need to take a break, ~ go deep sea fishing, ~ spend a few days offshore away from people and media. ~ watch the sun rise and set a few times aboard ship about 200 miles out. It’d do you some good, make you feel better.

  • Gnat Wrangler

    Many problems are related here on the planet. Some signs have been noted at the small scale, rain drops in Georgia are on average larger this year, and the large scale, fires and drought in Russia. Other signs have been noted. Seals have shorter fur this year. All the aligators in Florida born this year are males. A red calf was born in Israel this year. Sea levels in Texas are higher this year. Fish are oilier this year in GOM. Aboriginies in Austriala have shorter wool this year. Aboriginies in Congress have deeper pockets this year. No Chinese born this year had a tail. Dolphins are singing less this year but are paid more. Dolphins are union workers by the way. Liberals have whined more this year. That is normal. Tree bark is thicker on the east side of trees in Japan this year. Less UFO’s have been seen this year. More have land this year. And, more UFO’s have taken the President on flying tours of DC this year. President Obama has bowed less this year except to the UFO jockeys that demand he sublicate himself to their 3 foot 2 inch technically surperior being. Michelle Obama weighs less this year and spends more. President Obama has greyer hair this year.

    These signs and a few thousand more relating this years situation to some other year’s data indicate that the end will come in 2012 as predicted. The main reason is a large planet called planet X that is hidden behind something out in space, best guess in the Hubble Space Telescope is blocking out view of it. Planet X is large, just about as big as Saturn but not up there with Jupiter. However, this bigun is not a gas giant, rather it is solid element 122. Such a massive boy it is that one. Element 122 is way past Uranium at 92. Some 122 is radioactive and some isotopes are not. All of them are heavy. All this dense matter came from a political convention back in the 20′s held by the Democrats to elect FDR. It had to be ejected to get him elected. He retained some few vestigages that became our massive social state. Even if the planet X is a far miss as they say at NASA, we are doomed because it will cause the planet to wobble and tilt all kinda weird ways.

    Evidence of the nearness of planet X can be seen in the over pressure that planet X’s gravity sucking on the GOM surface caused in BP’s McConodo well formation or just the ole gusher that erupted nearby through five feet of Haliburton’s best cement. The indication here is that the planet is liberal. Also, the sucking is evident in Russia where all the water is leaving the ground, the air, and the planet. Further, a great sucking of some kind is removing dollars from the pockets of US citizens and the vaults of US banks. Any reasoning man can see this is the work of planet X.
    Obama is confering with the UFO’s and that preacher in the Carolinas who turned away a hurricane. Also, Obama is trying to get Raoul to wake up his brother Fidel who also turned a big hurricane away from Havanna. However, Fidel cannot be roused from his sleep. So, its Obama and the UFO’s vs planet X. Do not worry about global warming, orientals with A bombs, oil in Louisanna where it is not wanted, and all the other mumbo jumbo jive the controlled media put out there for us. The real deal is Obama and the UFO’s are going to save us from planet X. And soon too.

    If not, we will all be smashed like ants under a tractor trailer tire on I-20 and end out lives trying to catch a breath in the nearly pure vacuum of space. If it ain’t so, God is a possum.

    Now start worrying.

    • Bob Wire

      >>”Liberals have whined more this year.”<<

      Oh really? ~ I guess that all depends on what you listen too now, doesn't it?

      As this thread alone offers conflict to your assessment.

      I was really attempt to understand your post until I got to "that part" and realized "This man is lost and there is no need to continue looking for some wisdom, some insights in his posting"

      Progressives have had a great run, we've enjoyed listen to you whine and complain ~ That 350 pieces of legislation is currently blocked in the Senate, as they shut down for vacation, addressing unemployment and the economy, while American's struggle to hang on. Will not be overlooked or forgotten.

      That you wish to see things backwards,being most willing to shot your own foot off to make progressive whine is indeed a feat to behold.

      While GOP midterm gain are certain, as they reflect the local, little has been done to farther gains in the General election. In fact, just the contrary . Arizona, with it's "retired" GOP political base, that now being taxed to death as the state and local governments are the largest employer of the state ~ does not offer us a very good representation to the mood of the nation.

      Arizona can not sustain itself, in spite of mining interest. ~ At one time, it was only a good place to go and get out of the cold and relax. ~ Now it's government sucks the people dry, leaving them to only whine about what government is suppose to do and high taxes.

      Liberal whine? ~ There is enough disappointment to go around.

      • Denniso

        The supposed ‘conservatives’ are willing to wreck the country and economy just so they can get back into power…they have helped destroy what little confidence the consumers have been building slowly
        with a stabilized economy and a Market that has regained 2/3 of it’s value since the collapse. Their only plan is to prevent Obama from improving the economy so they can point to it as proof that the Dems should be voted out.
        For any fence sitters out there…just the fact that Obama has been able to appoint 2 smart and competent Court Justices and could have another coming up,is enough to fight to keep the Dems and Obama in control. The Court has been tilted right for years and if it goes further,we’re in trouble in all sorts of areas.

        • Bob Wire

          yep ~ that’s the plan ~ and it’s working

          Obama did it!

          screwed up 200 years of hard work in 15 months.

          For a stupid Marxist,socialist, community organized he sure gets around.

  • jerry b b

    I keep hearing and keep reading what people are saying about the planet geting warmerand now some are saying it’s geting cooler. I will add my 2 cents worth.I don’t think there is any one here that has been around long enough to realy be an authority on the subject.I can rember reading scientest saying that the world was between 1and 1 1/2 million years old. now it is up to about 600 million years.they say that the east coast of the U.S.A. used to be attached to the west coast of africa. how do they know if any is here that seen it drift westard as they say it has i would like to talkto that person i could lesrn alot from them. Another thing that i read said there was wooly mamounths alive on an island of the casst of alaska as late as maybe 10 thousand years ago. they say there was an ice up(ice age) about 10 tyousand years ago and another one about 10 thousand years be fore that. How do they know. I think they are still using their swag system. For people that don’t know that is scientific wild ass guess.All of the wolly mamouths that they have found in the ice that is thawing out have been there for a verry verry long time. how did they get there,were the y living there if they were then they had be in a warm enough climate to support them and that would take a lot of flora they couldn’t live on ice and snow it will slack your thirst butwant give you much to live on.where they were living was warm enough to support them be cause one of them found was frozen in a sitting position with a mouth full of grass and a broken hip. either it was warm there then or maybe a major movement (or shift ) in the earths upper crust. Your guess is as good as mine or their swag system(scientest).The best case that i can come up with is this planet is ever changing and i think if it ever stops that it want last long.I think most of these people that is spouting global warming or global cooling is doing so to take control of the world for their on greed and power over the people. I don’t think that it should be up to any mortal to say who gos and who stays. I think that should be left to the almighty. the bad or good that the people do to the plant will be self healing if the population is suddenly curtailed or wiped out.

    • Gnat Wrangler

      Amen brother. All things end in God’s time.

      • Bob Wire

        >>”The age of the Earth is around 4.54 billion years (4.54 × 109 years ± 1%). This age has been determined by radiometric age dating of meteorite material “<<

        You are off a smigit , such facts are good to know, ~ 93 million miles to the sun ~ one klick is .62 miles or there abouts ~ the curvature of the earth only allow us about a 14 mile line of sight range on the sea. Cat's don't like baths. All ladies want to be considered small and lovely. There is roughly 327 million Americans and a new one created every 14 seconds. Such information is most useful and enriches our understanding of the world we live in.

        Your so right though! ~ there is a lot of guessing going on.

        History/Science is a very exciting studies! ~ Myself I think it possible that UFO's could be "us" and friends. ~ In 4 billion year period, all things are possible as recorded history covers such a small part of this time.

        In so far as climate change, ~ it's real and it's on-going.

        The main point of contention is, to what degree activities of man spurs climate change along. This is the battle ground, as any cure requires a change in activity and behavior. We don't like change, we don't like to spent money unless we are sure it's a good investment and might offer returns. Big business don't like the notion, for it requires change and a investment. So it has been made a "political issue" to mount resistance to it. ~

        People that are sympathetic special interest and big business, scoff the notion and call it foolish, most willing to close their minds to eminent devastation where by their own hand or nature forces. ~ Maybe buying the earth people 50 to 150 years or maybe tipping the scales and prolong mankind's existed in a pleasant environment a thousand years.

        There is no certainty at this point, ~ but we do "all" know, ~ clean air and water has a value and the supply is not infinite.

    • RicSeag

      Try reading jerry b b….. You might learn a few things.

  • jerry b b

    you need to know that al gore is heavly invested in alternative energh products. george sorlid along with alot of other people in washington d.c. is also connected to the governments teat. george has bought the demorat party lock stock and barrel. We just now need to load the barrel for him.

    • Denniso

      Don’t show your ignorance so readily and willingly…Many more people are invested heavily in oil,coal,natural gas…true,some forward looking people are invested in alternative energy because they’re not as dumb as you people who want to cling to the dark ages and continue to pollute and despoil the earth.

  • http://none Alex

    Run, Capitalists, run!!

    Make money off of starvation!!

    Pigs at the trough, Amerikans.

  • Bob Wire

    sure ! Make money anyway you can ! I got it , do you want it?

    Food , health care, whatever!

    Your misfortune is to be other gain. ~ I make a living on what others don’t know, can’t do or don’t have.

    Speaking of which, I must go,

  • RicSeag

    Thanks for the tip on how to profit off the starvation of other people and the collapse of an important global food supply-chain! I can’t wait to exercise my derivative options and bring home a boat-load of cash off this global drought!

    Isn’t raw kapitalism awesome!

  • Karl

    Russia is facing a famine. However, they are still sticking it to the US by supporting Iran, giving them missel protection, giving them nuclear fuel, and telling the US to stick it with our embargo of Iran.
    Hopefully we can convince the Canadians of the need to control Iran’s nuclear threat. Russia can then be given the alternative of their people going hungry or their imperial anti-West missions being fulfilled. They are still acting like the evil empire. Hopefully, Obama will have the courage to boycott grain to Russia because of their recent behavior. Then the Russians can buy grain from Iran.

  • http://www.TomBlairEA.com Thomas Avery Blair EA

    Boy, let’s see: Famines, forests burning, wars and rumors of wars, currencies failing, earthquakes, massive oil spills, rising dictatorships, failing governments, rising crime…it all sounds almost Biblical, doesn’t it? :)

    God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel…hmmmm, that sounds almost Biblical as well, does it not?

    At least food for thought, is it not?

    Respectfully submitted,

    Thomas Avery Blair, EA

  • dan az

    You are some sick puppies

  • Bob Wire

    I think you are spreading the Judo-Christian thing on a little thick myself. Viewing bible with the same fevered zealotry that Muslims do the koran. ~We End end up with nothing but different flavors of zealots.

    Yep , if I was to write a book, that’s the way it would read.

    “Go against me and you play with fire.’” Hells fire & Brimstone can be all yours for all of you days”

    Human tragedy is on going ~ From The great flood that Noah stared in, to the Roman city of Pompeii that was destroyed by an eruption in 79 AD. that the bible fails to offer accounting of yet we know all the many books and transcripts were being compiled at that time and the Bible being crafted from drafts and correspondence.

    Israel is what she it today by virtue of history and happenstance and she carves her own destiny, ~

    There no need to refer to biblical text for support.

    That Abraham couldn’t control his women and created a big mess is old history. I sympathize, I know just how “women matters” it can be,but Abraham’s story is not unique, ~ I’d don’t want to get into the Jew /Muslim conflict.

    On the other hand, Proxy wars are most common and Israel is a big play, down card. I’m surly not ready to ignore what cards I’m holding.
    If that makes me Pro Israel ~ so be it! But you can get all the Mumbo Jumbo biblical prophesy out of it. ~ It’s not required for my support.

    So? are some of us in agreement pure Capitalism has it own unique short coming’s in the virtue department?

    Most here, seem more willing to accept the benevolence of the wealthy and big business before they would government.

    Why? I’m not exactly sure. They must know something I don’t know.

    perhaps they are vested in some way, or holding some fear I don’t share.

    • denniso

      Rightwing biz groups and politicians and corporate America in general orchestrate the animosity and distrust toward gov’t in order to keep gov’t offbalance and on the defensive so it has a more difficult time and argument in regulating biz. In the short run it’s true that regulation hinders money making to some degree and capitalists naturally want to maximize their profit and minimize their costs. Regulation is a cost to biz. So,biz makes up stories and lies and confuses some of the rabble and essentially enlists them in the war against gov’t regulation.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Linda

    It is late August now and the weather is already getting cooler in fact its been totally beautiful in good old Balt., Md.

  • http://www.blurty.com/talkpost.bml?journal=zombie234&itemid=1199 Olga

    Nice post I must say.. Easy however however entertaining and partaking liked reading Sowing The Seeds Of Starvation | Personal Liberty Digest!

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