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Signs Of A Crumbling Regime

September 20, 2010 by  

Signs Of A Crumbling Regime

Can you see it? The signs are everywhere. The regime is crumbling.

No not the President Barack Obama regime, though that is part of it; maybe even the catalyst in the United States, at least. I’m talking about the regime in general; the system.

You can see it in places like Greece. There the government has been fighting for its economic life. Years of socialist redistribution — theft from the producers to finance the growing State leviathan and unionized public and private sector employees — have caught up.

The government is now instituting “austerity” measures. It has to. It can’t meet its obligations. So it’s cutting back on growth in salaries, vacation days, benefits and pensions. Unionized public works employees and service employees aren’t happy their gravy train has jumped the tracks. They strike and riot. Greece may or may not survive.

Much the same is going on in other parts of Europe. The French government’s plans to save money by raising the retirement age to 62 from 60 sparked a one-day strike among workers from the public and private sectors in transportation, education, justice, healthcare, media and banking.

The “little people” are waking up to the fact that their governments — the elected class — have done them a disservice. Their regimes, financed by fiat money and having positioned themselves as the “Great Nannies,” are unable to fulfill promises of utopia, wine and roses.

Instead, the elected class enrich themselves. They finance wars through fiat, sending the masses in as fodder while the military-industrial complex grows stronger and pushes for more wars and more fiat money.

Here in America there have yet to be massive strikes and riots, though there are plenty of disaffected people with time on their hands to conduct such shenanigans. According to the U.S. Department of Labor there are 14.9 million unemployed. There are actually more. The government cooks its books. It doesn’t count those no longer seeking work.

Obama blew into office in January 2009 with stratospheric approval numbers. His “Hope and Change” mantra convinced many that “free stuff” was coming their way. In several videos posted on YouTube before Obama’s inauguration some of his voters say money from Obama’s “stash” will come to them or that they will no longer have to pay their mortgage or for gas. Apparently they really believed they no longer were obligated to pay their debts just because the Marxist was elected.

Obama and his Corporatist Democrat cohorts proceeded to pass more stimulus bills and focused on ramming Obamacare down the throats of the American people. The American people wanted the regime to focus on job creation rather than bailouts and Obamacare. The “free stuff” never came. Those waiting on it apparently don’t understand that governments don’t give… governments only consume: one way or the other.

The bailouts enriched the banksters and Wall Street, and Obamacare — a Eurosocialist healthcare model — was implemented to steal freedom from of choice from Americans and saddle them with coming additional taxes and death panels that will decide whether they live or die. What’s more, to comply with the coming mandates to insure the previously uninsurable and everyone else, insurance companies are raising rates faster than they did before healthcare became “free for all.”

But the regime doesn’t like any kind of dissent. So it threatens, through a letter from Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, to put health insurers out of business if they don’t quit “using scare tactics and misinformation to falsely blame premium increases for 2011 on the patient protections in the Affordable Care Act.”

Sebelius says her experts and academic advisors believe any increased costs to insurance companies will be minimal. Government experts and academics operate in the fantasy land of theory. Businesses operate in the realm of reality. Businesses understand that regulations and mandates cost them money.

It’s not the first time the regime has threatened businesses. When AT&T, Caterpillar and others explained to shareholders what the new healthcare law would cost, the thug Congressman Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) demanded proof and threatened to bring them before Congress. Waxman backed down when the companies provided proof.

You may recall that Obama’s thugocratic regime also threatened those holding the debt of General Motors and Chrysler during bankruptcy negotiations. “Agree to our settlement or risk getting nothing,” was the message. “Two hundred years of case law on bankruptcy be damned,” the thugocracy said.

The result of all this is approval ratings in the low 40s for Obama and single digits for Congress. The elites first caught wind of voter dissatisfaction during Town Hall meetings. No longer were they pleasant affairs attended by a few old codgers looking for a free cup of coffee. Now voters were expressing their discontent. The elites got scared and ducked and ran or hired thugs to protect them from their “malcontent” constituents. They grabbed video cameras or ordered them turned off. These embarrassing moments appeared on YouTube for any who were interested to see.

When special elections were held, incumbents and establishment candidates got trounced. Tea Parties grew stronger, their message resonated and spread. The large rallies in Washington, D.C., and around the nation frightened the regime.

The regime has responded. With corporate mainstream media’s audience falling precipitously the regime realized it was losing the message. People no longer turned to the alphabet soup news gatherers and the “All the news that’s fit to print” newspapers that all spread the same government propaganda. They sought their news from other sources: talk radio, the Internet.

So now the regime is pushing a bill to turn off the Internet. It also seeks a “fairness doctrine” so it can control radio content. Moves such as these will draw out the masses. If that happens the results won’t be pretty.

The Republican establishment is not immune from the public’s ire. In fact, the Republican Party is in the crosshairs of the Tea Party. Tea Party candidates are taking out the traditional “chosen” Republicans and reshaping the GOP in their image. The regime is surprised.

It shouldn’t be. The Republican establishment backs liberals like Mike Castle — a pro-abortion, pro-gun control, tax and spend liberal who calls himself a Republican — who as a Congressman sided with the Democrats more than Republicans. Tea Party conservatives figured it’s better to back a conservative with a chance she might lose in November than support a liberal Republican who votes for Democrat policies they’ve rejected.

So Christine O’Donnell whipped Castle for the Republican Senate nomination in Delaware. The Republican regime went into a snit, called O’Donnell names and cast doubts about her electability.

Karl Rove, the former advisor to President George W. Bush and architect of many of the Republican failures during the Bush years that resulted in the ascendancy of the current Democrat and Obama regime, was the poster child of regime arrogance on election night. He called O’Donnell nutty, and added other less-than-flattering adjectives. The National Republican Senate Committee said it would not be supporting her candidacy. What arrogance!

No matter. Tea Partiers responded. On Wednesday after her nomination, O’Donnell saw donations pour in from across the country. Her website crashed from the traffic.

Sensing trouble, the NRSC relented and quickly cut a check to her campaign.

The Republican establishment is slow to learn. The regime has a history of backing the wrong candidate: Charlie Crist over Marco Rubio, Senator Lisa Murkowski over Joe Miller, Trey Grayson over Rand Paul, Senator Bob Bennett (R-Utah) over Mike Lee, Rick Lazio over Carl Paladino. The regime doesn’t have it figured out yet.

“Establishment Republicans have no idea how livid Americans are with them,” Richard A. Viguerie told The Washington Examiner last Wednesday. “Republican leaders are in a panic because they have lost control of the Republican Party. Grassroots constitutional conservatives are inside the Citadel, and are poised to take over.”

The public is fed up. Democrats don’t yet realize it, but as soon as the Tea Party finishes cleaning up the parts of the Republican Party they can get to this election cycle, the Democrat purge will begin in earnest. That cleaning starts on Nov. 2. It won’t end there, regardless of the outcome. There will still be a lot of trash in Washington — Republican and Democrat — on the day after the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. But Americans are as energized over the idea of a cleansing as they have ever been.

Democrats and Republicans alike face a tsunami in November the likes of which they still can’t imagine. Americans are ready to throw off the yoke of slavery they have toiled under for many years. The straws of control, taxes, government spending and regulations have finally broken the camel’s back.

The fascist regime is no longer stable. It knows only control, wars and more spending. So it continues to grow deficits, conduct wars without end, rattle sabers for more wars, put more regulations on food, push more “approved” harmful drugs on consumers, order more vaccinations, restrict access to natural health supplements and exercise more control over the public.

The regime calls for tax increases. This, too, is an effort at more control. It is legalized theft of your production.

Gold hit a record high last week. It is evidence the public is aware the regime is crumbling. The fiat system, instituted under the darkness of night 97 years ago, is failing. Throwing more fiat at the debt and deficits have succeeded only in creating more debt and greater deficits. The calculator the regime uses only adds and multiplies. The subtraction key doesn’t work. History shows this is a recipe for failure.

Store food for food and food for barter. Store water for sustenance. Store guns and ammunition for protection. Store gold and silver for wealth preservation. Prepare; for the regime is crumbling.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • s c

    This prez has tried to build an administration on a foundation of shifting sand. It will not stand. He has tried to tempt America and divide us. He can blow right back out of Washington the same way he blew in. And he can take the jackass that he rode in on and barbecue the damned thing.

    • Eddie Gianola

      A-A-A-MEN!!!!

      • Denniso

        Give it up already!! Hey I heard that obama is actually a lizard alien, saw a video of him and he is a lizard from Mars,sent here to take over the world…that’s why he is trying to be nicer to the rest of the world because he is setting the stage for the one world lizard alien gov’t…tell the tea party so they cancampaign on the news.

        So, you say that Obama has ‘tried to tempt America’, wow, so I guess he’s the devil as well?

        ‘Obama is dividing the country’? Boy, what selective reading you must do to come to that conclusion…Obama was viciously attacked by rightwingers and Limbaugh/Beck/Savage/Coulter and more even before he took the oath. He was blamed for the crash before he took office and though he has tried to include Repubs in his policies in trying to save the country from the excesses of Bush/Cheny, the rightwing trashes him as ‘partisan’…you people wouldn’t be happy w/ Jesus as president; a liberal,too soft on crime,too empathetic,long hair,beggar
        w/o a job…

        • thinking

          Ok, Denniso so you work for Obama. Tell him the american people will not give into his hand outs and taking from those who have to give to those who suck the blood out of this country. Don’t bring Jesus into the fray as he knows hearts and does not want any part of ruling this or any country in this world for he rules in heaven and I hope one day you will get there. God bless America

          • dan az

            dennso you sound scared whats the matter you butt buddy not paying you well enough?cut backs are a b-tch and you must be at the bottom bummer!
            Why not come up with a solution to this mess or is it you have no clue what to do?I know your not working so you have allot of time to figure it out.So lets here it!Give it your best shot!

          • dstk

            I don’t think God would bless your thought, or the many here, mostly based on racism…

        • Carrie TPT

          Talk about selective Reading, take off the rose colored glasses & see reality for a minute. The elitist programs of the “Bush/Cheny” administration were the Work of A Democrate Congress Bush had no opportunity to push his agenda. Before Obama took office he was ring leader conductuing the “Do something” before anyone has time to read it $$$ Stimulus to save wall street excesses. The play worked so well, he & pelosi ran it again for Obamacare. Their idea of Democracy is rule by school yard Bullies with all the intimidation & name calling.

          • wasadoc

            You will never convince those who have eyes but cannot see, nor those who have ears, but will not listen. Let’s just ignore them, get on with the business of getting the dems and the “bad” repubs out of Washington. I live for the day that we will see obama led away in cuffs, and yes, I do think it will happen.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            wasadoc,
            I would pay GOOD money to see that!!!

          • Denniso

            Cheny/Bush are the ones who need to be lead away in chains…why don’t you non thinkers care that they started 2 wars that will cost at least a trillion $$ each,murdered a couple hundred thousand civilians and maimed and killed tens of thousands of our young people?
            And, didn’t finish either war…

          • Ellen

            Carrie: As horrendous as Ovomit is, it was Bush who gave us the gifts of Homeland Security and the PATRIOT Act……both had been written long before 9/11 and both effectively destroy our rights and are total violations of many of the Amendments. Bush is/was just as evil and bought & sold as Ovomit. These creatures and their numberless cronies are the puppets of those who are very intent on finishing the destruction of America and leaving us ALL homeless and enslaved.

            Going back to the Alien and Sedition Act in 1798, the Federalist-controlled Congress passed a series of laws which, on the surface, were designed to control the activities of foreigners in the United States during a time of impending war. Beneath the surface, however, the real intent of these laws was to destroy Jeffersonian Republicanism. The laws, known collectively as the “Alien and Sedition Acts,” included:

            -The Naturalization Act, which extended the residency period from 5 to 14 years for those aliens seeking citizenship; this law was aimed at Irish and French immigrants who were often active in Republican politics

            -The Alien Act, which allowed the expulsion of aliens deemed dangerous during peacetime

            -The Alien Enemies Act, which allowed the expulsion or imprisonment of aliens deemed dangerous during wartime. This was never enforced, but it did prompt numerous Frenchmen to return home

            -The Sedition Act, which provided for fines or imprisonment for individuals who criticized the government, Congress, or president in speech or print (this one was the only one that was enforced)

            The last of these 4 laws, the Sedition Act, passed on July 14 declared that any treasonable activity, including the publication of “any false, scandalous and malicious writing,” was a high misdemeanor, punishable by fine and imprisonment. By virtue of this legislation twenty-five men, most of them editors of Republican newspapers, were arrested and their newspapers forced to shut down.

            The Jeffersonians argued quite rightly that the Sedition Act violated the terms of the First Amendment and offered a remedy in the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions.

            This was a direct and entirely illegal / unconstitutional attack on the first Amendment. A good share of the states supported this treason because they didn’t want anyone speaking his mind–which we have (or are supposed to have) the total right to do.

            Our government is thoroughly corrupted and owned by the globalists who have been working behind the scenes for many many years to destroy our freedoms. I doubt very seriously that anyone will be allowed to be “elected” who isn’t bought off or otherwise controlled.

          • http://aol wayne a

            DENNISO,ever notice no one else agrees with you? bush could not have went to war with iraq of afg.unless congress oks it and congress passed it unanimously.as far as the wars,it makes up only 3% of our national debt!

          • Denniso

            I don’t expect the zealots here to agree w/ me, so what. If you talk to a 4th grader do you expect him to agree w/ things he doesn’t understand? Most of these people are so closed off to actual thinking
            by their blind loyalty that all I can do is try to shed some light into their caves and hope that a few start to think. I don’t exist just to have people agree w/ me, as I’m not a sheep following the flock.

          • Christin

            Ellen,
            Very informative post.
            Thanks for the info.

          • BrotherPatriot

            Nice work, Ellen…

        • http://aol.com Nick

          WAke up, Denisio! The effects of the ‘Kool-Aid’ is still in your washed-up brain! Can’t you see what’s happening, when your Obama took control of the government and started his ‘CHANGE’ apparatus? We’re now edging towards a “THIRD WORLD STATUS” country! We are practically a ‘BANKRUPT’ COUNTRY! ALL THE WEALTH IN THIS WORLD WILL NOT BE ENOUGH TO PAY-OFF THE DEBTS THAT YOUR OBAMA HAS CREATED FOR ‘US’ (ACTUALLY, IT’S FOR YOU, WHO BELIEVED IN HIM)
          Maybe you still has a job, because you’re with the ‘UNION’, but it won’t be for long, because a lot of us are still unemployed, and there’s not enough of you to pay taxes, to support your Obama…. so your job is going GONE, too – eventually ! Hurray for you !

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Nick,
            what our buddy Dumnisso doesn’t seem to realize is that all jobs are based on a supply and demand type scenario. If there aren’t enough of the normal people working to produce a DEMAND then those union jobs are only gonna build up a surplus and lay-offs will come!!!

          • Denniso

            Supply and demand!! Wow, now that is some heavy thinking. You might need to rest now.

          • john

            ha ha what do u mean almost bankrupt? you idiots gave a negro a credit card lol soon there will be a run on your dollar as u have printed so much money it is really worthless . as soon as china decides to cut its losses you are finished america , and after the 3600 year cycle of the planet nibiru comes back in 2012 your painted rust infastructure will be destroyed and the tsunamis that hit your coast will not leave much left . america is about to fall (so are many other parts of the world . google planet x check it out . get away from the coasts and from downriver locations of dams if u hope to survive.)

        • Warrior

          I met a fairy today who would grant me just one wish.

          “I want to live forever,” I said.
          “Sorry” said the fairy. “I’m not allowed to grant wishes like that!”
          “Fine,” I said. “I want to die after the democrats get their heads
          out of their asses!”

          “You crafty bastard,” said the fairy.

          • Jeep

            Wow! LOL!

          • Andy Howey

            I like it!!!

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Too Funny!!!

          • Christin

            Thanks for the chuckle, Warrior.

            Should of asked to bannish all DemocRATS from our country while you were waiting forever to see their faces!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            you gonna live LONGER than forever!!!

          • William Barry

            C’MON, YOU APES! YOU WANNA LIVE FOREVER?

            OVER THE TOP… CHARGE!

          • http://naver samurai

            Now that’s funny! Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • karen

            What a pesky fairy he really gets around.

          • Bob

            Warrior You are a Plagiarist.

          • BrotherPatriot

            *snickers*

        • a progressive nightmare

          Denniso, Was it your engineering or economics degree that helped you come up with that dumb progressive comment?

          How well does that cubicle fit in the basement of the WH?

          • Denniso

            I would make another educated guess that the most rude and loudest shouters and promoters of violence here have lousy educations or essentially no education. Sad…

          • a progressive nightmare

            Denniso…Where did yo get your “Education”? K-mart blue light special, maybe?

        • William

          deiiiso you really need to put the koolaid down and get a life,

        • cwew

          Lizard, alien, mars, Limbaugh, Beck, Savage, Coulter?… Grow up. Using names to bolster a failed Administration will not work with thinkers. Obama is THE LEAST qualified person to ever occupy the Oval Office. He is a neophyte. He has not reached across the aisle; not once. I’ll not attack you personally; you are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.

        • Cameron

          Denniso, you’re so full of S#!% that when you die the mortician can give you an enema & bury you in a match box. I don’t know where you’re from (Mars, maybe?), but you are totally, completely, out of touch w/mainstream America. I love my country, warts & all, and I’ll be damned if I see it turned into a European-styled, Socialist failure just so s few lazy-assed greedy people think they can get everything FREE! Mr. Obama is absolutely the WORST thing that has ever happened to America, and the sooner he is kicked out of Washington, the better. It will take years of the general public sacrificing in order to clean up the colossal mess he has made & is making of the American dream.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            ENEMA- MATCH BOX? That’s dennisso alright!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

          • Denniso

            The Dems will continue to control congress after Nov, and Obama gets reelected in 2012…you geniuses are going to burn out on your juvenile anger and will be sitting around watching TV all day long for the next 6 yrs…enjoy!

          • http://naver samurai

            Denniso has been drinking too much kool aid and speeches by Obama bin Laden! He’s a complete sheeple! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • a progressive nightmare

            Denniso…and you have become a legend in your own mind.

          • Denniso

            You people have no rational argument to make…all you can do,apparently, is make personal attacks and childish comments. Am I surprised? No, I expect that sort of thing from the rightwing extremists as I’ve talked to many face to face, and find that they throw tantrums and call people names to back up their lack of logic and thinking. I used to be naive and thought that even zealots could be reasoned with, but now know better…my only hope is that there are some here who are willing to take in ideas they haven’t thought of
            or heard before and will actually listen and think. It’s a challenge, but a few may be saved from extremism by rational thought.

          • a progressive nightmare

            I just love toying around with your emotional mindset Denniso. Don’t get your little feathers in a fluff, sweetie. Besides, stick around, you make our point every time you comment.

        • http://www.jrs-artwork.com J. R. Shuck

          Denniso, you are so blinded by your liberal, slobbering, tunnel-vision love for Obama that you couldn’t see the truth if you wanted to. You must watch Fox News a lot because you know all of them and what they are saying. You are a victim of the new “American Idol Mentality” and that is how your empty-suit hero got elected. Elected by idiots…

          • Denniso

            I don’t ‘love’ any politician;I respect a few and loathe many,especially the corporate coddling and hypocritical rightwingers,
            ones like Cheny/Bush.

        • Dave Smith

          See ya in November 2010 and 2012. Enjoy your last months.

        • Alydia

          Once foolish always a foolish! Open your eyes Denniso and watch the system crumble….You have eyes and ears but yet you don’t use them…what is the problem??

          • rwnut

            denniso….You are hilarious! Even a kid knows you can’t hide a peice of broccoli in a glass of milk!(even a loonie-leftie kid)

        • ken123

          Obama was exposed for what he is, a Marxist Socialist. He was trained by Marxists and Communist and he himself reveals this in his own books. When a person surrounds himself with Marxist and Communists it is to be suspected the fleas jumped off on him. His desire to destroy the free capitalist system of this country through redistribution is typical Marxism and will be defeated by rightminded Americans. We, as a people cannot afford to lose this battle or we will cease to exist as a nation.

        • RoyfromKs

          Please don’t stick up for Obama, it makes you look as bad as he is! There’s not too many people in the country that bad, I don’t think! If you think he is doing good for the country then you should come out of the shell or what ever you’re living in and wise up! I don’t want to burst your bubble but I usually call them the way I see them! Sorry!

          • Denniso

            I imaginr you stick up for the child killers,Bush/Cheny?

        • http://serenityforyou.124online.com Caroline

          Denniso,

          You are not getting the full message here. This is not the republicans knocking the democrats — it is the people knocking the system! Haven’t you seen the headlines? The tea-partiers are dissatisfied with BOTH sides! We want EVERYONE out! Replace the entire system (especially the long-timers) with those who want to go back to the way it used to be when the constitution was created! Unfortunately both sides are just a smoke-screen for the same liberal agenda! They want one world-government and that’s why they are trying to turn the US into Europe! Haven’t they seen yet that the European system doesn’t work? Just look at them — Spain, Greece, Italy? Who’s next to fail? Who’s going to bail who out next? I’m tired of my hard-earned money being taken to bail out banks and corporations that can’t balance their own budgets!

          • Denniso

            Wrong, there is not a single tea party person running as a Dem, is there? No, all are running as Repubs and they are trying to ‘purify’ the party and boot out the moderates who are willing to work w/ Dems for the sake of the country. Unlike 90% of the namecallers here, I pay attention to what’s going on w/o being blinded by angry partisanship.

          • http://aol wayne a

            DENNISO,if you really pay attention,why is it the only thing you do is name calling and popping off to other peoples comments.you have no facts to support any of your asinine opinions.just a bad case of diarrhea of the mouth!

          • a progressive nightmare

            Wayne, She never will figure out why GOD gave her two ears and one mouth…typical childish progressive. LA LA LA LA LAAAAAAA LA!! LA LA LA LA LAAAAAAA LA!!

          • Denniso

            Wayne, I suggest you look above to see who is being called names…are you blind?

            I respond to some of the dumbest comments here to try to correct stupidity, that’s all.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Denniso said: “I respond to some of the dumbest comments here to try to correct stupidity, that’s all.”

            GOD help us! We now have stupid trying to fix stupid! Kinda sounds like what’s going on in the OBLAMA regime, now doesn’t it. DENNISO, let’s spend another trillion or two, that will fix it!!! LOL!

        • Lon

          Denniso

          Sorry you’re not finding much support here. Maybe this will give you a clue how many are still duped like yourself and how many of us will be voting you “Jesuses” out of office 11/2/2010…TAKE OUT THE TRASH

          • NO ONE WANTS MARXISM

            Dunnso, God does not know you … Liberals = L BE LIARS … stop lying … you don’t even believe yourself!

        • LocalYokel

          Listen while you can Denni. One of the four you mentioned is already being severely oppressed for reporting the connections that your biased media heroes ignore

        • Woody

          Has anyone ever considered the possibility that “Denniso” is actually Bob Livingston playing the “devil’s advocate” to stir everyone up? Without Denniso’s input, who would we yell at?

          • Denniso

            You are so bright, you win the prize…

        • Tunaman

          denniso, You are one of the slacker government slaves that infest this once great nation! November is coming and the productive working PATRIOTIC AMERICANS are going to clean the vermin that take up space in DC and state governments OUT THE DOOR!!

          • Denniso

            Sorry fella, you’re dead wrong…never worked for the gov’t in my life
            and have been self employed my whole adult life except for 1 year.

            I would guess that fully 1/2 of the ranters here HAVE worked for some
            level of gov’t in their lives…what does that make them? Hypocrites.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Denniso says she has been self-employed her entire adult life. When did you grow up and become an independent self-reliant adult?

          • a progressive nightmare

            Also, isn’t it amazing how all these progressive hacks claim to be business owners or “Self-Employed” but spend the entire day blogging about politics? I wonder who is running “Their” businesses? Based upon their commentary, none could pass an 8th grade business 101 class much less understand the size and scope of the TP movement.

            In fact, this is elementary my friends and it is self-evident as to whom these folks work for.

            Denniso, how well does that cubicle fit you in the basement of the WH?

            You feeling “educated” by now?

          • Denniso

            Why don’t you actually do something constructive here and do a poll
            of who on this site is or has worked for the gov’t at all levels?

            Implore your buddies to be honest,if possible, and state the truth about their work history…gov’t employment at city,county,state and federal levels, and any gov’t contracts in private companies they may work for…

            Try it and see if I’m right…I have nothing against gov’t workers since I know they are mostly needed and that w/o the gov’t keeping
            some millions employed during a recession we would by now be in a full blown depression and you ranters would really be crying.

          • a progressive nightmare

            DENNISO said :

            “I have nothing against gov’t workers since I know they are mostly needed and that w/o the gov’t keeping some millions employed during a recession we would by now be in a full blown depression and you ranters would really be crying.”

            Your ignorance of economics is self-evident. How does this system work? Now, we have millions of people who are not paying any taxes because they do not have a job, correct? About 10% unemployed under this great president of yours. Correct? So, let me get this straight, you think that the govm’t hiring millions of those people and spending more tax dollars to pay those people is the direction we need to go? Math or economics is not a strong subject for you, now is it?

            How do you pay MORE government workers on less tax revenues, moron? Oh, I forgot, you are a progressive, so you would just print more progressive funny money, correct?

            The fact is, if you progressives would have let the free market forces come to bear, we would already be out of this mess with unemployment less than 5% with a much stronger economy. Just like FDR, OBLAMA will extend this recession for a decade or better!

            You said you had a degree in economics??? What school was it? Just want to be sure none of my family goes there.

          • Denniso

            You just can’t refrain from using the word ‘moron’,can you? Though I am tempted to respond w/ the same word or others, I bite my tongue and let my education and civility prevail. It’s possible to argue w/o
            using childish words and even you and your buddies can learn to do it.

            I’ve corrected your flawed math again,not to mention your ‘reasoning’.
            FDR came in to office in ’33; WWII emphatically ended all traces of the depression in ’41…8 yrs total, though the depression had abated a bit before then. So, genius mathematician,how did FDR prolong the depression for a decade? Your feeble certainty about how the economy would be doing now if we had done nothing is pathetic and meaningless,as no one can say for sure what would have happened…the overwhelming majority of trained and schooled economists around the world agree w/ me though, not you. All of the countries that were affected by the global recession did what we did…tried to stimulate the economy so that a huge drop in consummer spending didn’t drag everything else down.

            But no, you hotshots w/ little or no education in economics think you know better…pitiable. I wonder what other fields that you have no training in are you nevertheless an expert in??? Rocket science?

        • http://InternetExplorer txfighter

          I am a nurse and I can tell you , we already have a ‘death policy’. Medicare decided people were living too long after being put on hospice care, so in my area, when anyone in put on hospice care, they are DENIED all food and liquids until they die!!! Usually about a week later. This is the outright truth. Also, a 47 year old friend, who only has Medicaid, was told his cancer was too far advanced for Chemotherapy to help. That was a year ago. He is still alive, but has suffered untold pain and misery due to the cancer. Chemo would have helped him. He was discharged from a local hospital and placed in a ‘low rent’ building , where family can sleep when a family member is in the hospital. His wife had no money for gas to come get him from a town about 40 miles away. He had to stay, without food or his diabetic medication, for 18 hours , until someone loaned her money for gas. Those who think they will now have medical coverage under Obamacare, will only have Medicaid. And I can tell you, the medical care for those on Medicaid is very poor or none. I wish the entire country could know this truth.

          • Lyla Cavanaugh

            Med care is already federally subsidizing Big Insurance who only cover dialysis for a year or less and then put evry one rich and poor on medicare or ‘caid. Rich Bitch insurance companies are already rippig us all off with their drug program “D” passed by their Bush and friends.

          • Void1972

            It’s a sad fact that our system will take full care of illegals and minorities, but let you die a horrible death if your white!

        • http://http/aol.com john littlefield

          you are the one that loves obummer.

        • James D. Redhed

          Perhaps you would explain what things the President has tried to include Republicans in? As I recall, for example, when Republicans were trying to bring some sense to Obamacare, he said, “When someone brings a bredible plan to the table, we will look at it.” Some Republicans tried to allow cross-state selling of health insurance, for instance. Obama said that was not a credible plan to lower costs, even though competition has lowered costs on every other product for which competition as available. Name one thing where the President has compromised. He doesn’t. Words he has used many times, from Obamacare to gay marriage, are, “(Name the opposition) will just have to compromise.”
          The Democrats took over our government in January 2007, and you are still yapping about what Bush and Cheney did? Yes, they did, but everything since then should rightly be laid at the feet of the Democrats.

          • Denniso

            Pay attention to real news and you won’t have to ask for my help.
            Obama is being ripped by many Dems for trying to include Repubs in policy and cowtowing to them on issues.

          • http://naver samurai

            Actually denniso, he’s being attacked by the dems because of his policies and his being too far left fo many of them. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Jerry

          Wow Denniso, You are still riding the turnip truck–haven’t fell off yet.Comrad Barak Hussein has you right where he wants you!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jerry,
            Dumnisso is like all progs out there. They are too proud to say maybe we are wrong so they go into total denial on Nobama in that he can’t be bad, can’t be toxic to America!!! One of these days the world will show that Nobama is a waste of human flesh and skin and they will all have to face the truth!!

          • dan az

            Joe H
            I hope he dosent get paid for all the replys that he racked up along with his welfare checks he may be doing quite good dont ya think?

          • Denniso

            Isn’t that the way it works? the more replies, the more money?

            If that were true, I could retire like most of the people on this site who are now living on their pensions and SS. I have to work.

        • Charles

          Denniso, you are such a moron! Everyone with a brain knows that Osama has locked out the Republicans. He has refused to listen to them, while claiming that they have never offered any alternatives to his destructive policies. Get a brain.

          • Claire

            I have a brain and I certainly think both sides of the aisle are pathetic.

          • Denniso

            Thanks Charles, for the kind words. It’s comments like yours that show me the true nature of our rightwing bretheren…civil,thoughtful,
            kind,caring,supportive,empathetic and diverse.

          • http://naver samurai

            Well, denniso! You, edduh, and abnorm do the same things on these threads. Thos who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Think of Obama bin Ladens regime like the Roman Empire. It was strong, great army, economy, one currency and not many, senate, morals, etc., but then after the libs (for lack of a better word), lead by the son of Marc Anthony and Ceasar’s wife lead a small rebellion and killed Ceasar Augustus in his bath house. After that came Tiberius, who basically sat on the fence, then came Calligula, Claudius, Nero, etc., who were only interested in their own ideas and care not for what made Rome great. Eventually, it split into the West and Eastern Roman Empires. The East stuck to traditions, morals, and recognized Christianity and survived 100′s of years later as the Byzantine Empire (The 1st Christian nation.). The West didn’t and it was eventually conquered by the barbarians. We fighting the good fight are the East Romans and Obama bin Laden, his controllers, and his sheeple are the West Romans. Who do you really think will win this November and in 2012? I can’t predict the future, but since history does repeat itself it looks pretty good for the Eastern group. Let’s keep up the good fight, fellow patriots. Let’s continue to have freedoms holy light shining throughout the world. Our foundings and beliefs were and still are based of God. Obama bin Laden’s regime is based on lied and deciet. WE THE PEOPLE will have a great victory in November and an even greater victory in 2012! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Denniso

            No, the country is not based upon god, rather it is supposedly based upon freedom,liberty and unity of purpose. Of course you the historian
            would know that it was essentially a lie for all who were not white,landowning males until a hundred and more yrs later…we’re still not totally free and many,like gays are not very close at all.

            I can predict the future, I do it on a fairly regular basis, and I’ve already made my prediction for Nov. The tea party is shooting the Repubs in the head,not the foot, and the Repubs are becoming even more unpalatable to independents and moderates, since you guys loathe
            anyone not suitably pure in your warped vision of ‘conservatism’.

            The Dems lose some seats, as every mid term election essentially dictates,but retain controll of both houses…then you people yell and scream louder and carry more guns to protests and meetings w/ politicians and look more foolish still. My prediction…

          • Denniso

            Claire…thanks for the civil comment and partial support.

        • meteorlady

          Poor Denissssss…… you just won’t give it up. It’s over, the people have seen through your clay footed idol. We don’t want the likes for Soros and the Bildenberg Group calling the shots for us anymore. We don’t want one world order, health care, government interference in our lives, illegal immigration and amnesty, and certainly not another one like Obama. He’s done – if the Republicans or Libertarians or Constitutional parties can field a viable candidate, Obama will be heading out of town back to the corruption and politics he is used to.

          • Denniso

            You don’t want healthcare? WOW!! And I guess you don’t mind being controlled by people like the Koch brothers who are funding rightwing groups and ‘think’ tanks…they’re also funding the glorious tea party.

            You have Obama for 6 more yrs, get used to it and quit whining.Be a man…

          • http://naver samurai

            Denniso, just full of rants and no facts at all! Common sheeple! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • a progressive nightmare

            We don’t want government controlled healthcare, DUMMY!

          • Angel Wannabe

            denniso__You’ll tale Koch control over the current Rothchilds control, you’ve been controlled num num, and its getting worse open up your eyes, you have no idea what the hell your talking about

          • Denniso

            Sorry, your rant is unintelligible…

        • http://naver samurai

          The one saying that fits Obama bin Laden: “A man can make a throne from bayonets, but can never sit upon it.” Ponder on that thought. Damn! I keep forgetting that libs can’t think! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • rwnut

            denniso…you understood that rant,and you know it!

        • http://Aol Carol

          You are blind or RICH! Living in the world of the very pooooor I suffer everyday. I am old as well as poor, and Obama is sending me to my death. I can’
          i can’t get my section 8 correct I get $725.00 a month for S.S and section 8 has me paying $701.00 a moth and says I can’
          t get any more help then that. So I don’t know what you see,but I could truely die because they say I have enough to live on. Plus I am 75 years old. I guess the death panal is for me. Huh? my son seems to think so.
          Is uouir Grand mother alive?

          • http://aol wayne a

            CAROL,just tell them you’re a illegal hispanic,obama will give you free healthcare,subsidized housing,foodstamps,wick,financial aid,pay no taxes….

          • Denniso

            Boy, are you blind,deaf and dumb…making up anything you want for your purposes…pathetic and hopeless.

        • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Jill

          Give it up we all know what Lizzama is doing.

        • http://yahoo.com bob

          Denniso, I hear more than just a little desperation in your comments. In just the past month I have registered 20 family, friends and co-workers (many of whom had never registered to vote before -mainly due to apathy that they could actually influence our crooked pol’s) to vote! Not only that (wait for it, wait for it…) they ALL REGISTERED AS REPUBLICANS. Every single one of them is determined to vote this November and the simple rule is if you don’t know the candidates for lesser offices, just vote for the ones with an (R) beside their names.
          You see Dinniso, fools like yourself, and the few others like you in this country, might want to start looking for another country to defile. In the final equation – how many socialist/communists have you found to register to vote :-}

          • a progressive nightmare

            Bob, Same here. I know dozens of older folks who have registered to vote for their very first time. Better than that, I have many young folks who now see the light and have nothing but VERY negative comments about Obama and the progressive dems. I don’t think november is going to work out like Dumniso “Feels”. I think she actually “Feels”(Incapable of logical reasoning or deep thought), that if she types fast enough, and spews enough liberal crap on this blog, it will in some way change the outcome in November.

            Fact is, she just confirms what this election is all about and it only makes US more determined to get out the vote, come November.

          • Denniso

            Am i surprised that your family and friends are also rightwing lunatics? No…does it prove anything? No…

          • http://aol wayne a

            DENNISO,strange that you say you work full time but you were on this comment site to one or two in the morning then you’re on it all day.you sure your job wasn’t one of the 3.1 million that businesses has eliminated since obama took office?

          • Denniso

            You haven’t figured out yet that the time signatures on here are not correct? And, have you ever heard of computers at work? Can you imagine that self employed people have some flexibility w/ there time?

          • libertytrain

            Denniso – I agree with you on this – the time signature is around an hour later than Eastern Time but I still don’t see why it makes a difference to anyone – and you’re right we who work for ourselves have the luxury of using all 24 hours of the day to our advantage.

          • Denniso

            See, we can agree on something!! Thanks…

        • http://www.personallibertyalert.com Brian zorro

          Denniso is an ignoramus of the worst kind a died in the wool, democrat God hating moron who lives her life every day as all liberals do pretending to be an expert on everything and yet having absolutely no discernment whatsoever. We are not in a recession or a depression the one world government or Illuminati and the ancient religion of theosophy or Baal worship are the ones financing and getting world leaders appointed. Our presidents are pawns for one world government which God forbids. Things will get much worse and that’s hard news for a liberal as they always have the ostrich syndrome and want to keep their heads up their ass and practice if anything feels good do it and positivism for its own sake equals nihilism. Gods form of Government is a pure right wing theocracy with an Iron rod you moron if Jesus had been a liberal he would not have followed the laws or fulfilled scripture, he would have been to busy deciding on what scriptures or points to believe in with his father and they would have been constantly divided and Jesus would be outside arguing still and throwing stones at his father saying I know better that’s what liberal moronic morns like liberals do nothing they do is effective but all adds up to a pile of shit and is self destructive. God did not come to bring peace but a sword and the truth is something a liberal cant stand, but honey you ain’t got no where to run when the shit hits the fan and I have always seen the future like an open book. The great thing about time Mrs rebel is time will tell which of us is right I’m willing to take a bet. But I’m sure you will loose because their is nothing a liberal is certain of.

          • Denniso

            God forbids a one world gov’t??? Where is that written in your bible?
            And I thought that Jesus came to bring love and peace and forgiveness and tolerance…

            A bet? You doomsayers have been wrong for 2000 yrs about your messiah
            returning to earth,so I think my chances are greater than yours. Do you realize that every generation of human Christians since Jesus have said just what you preach…Jesus/God is returning so you’d better prepare and get right w/ god…doesn’t seem to ever happen, does it?

          • rwnut

            denniso….”Like a theif in the night.” “In the twinkling of an eye.” dengy,there’s Someone bigger than you that holds the Master Plan in his hand.And only He knows the day.May be tonight dengy.

        • http://joblessearnings.com Penny Muckleroy

          In case you haven’t been keeping up with the primaries the professional politicians in the Republican party ARE LOSING. THE SILENT MAJORITY WILL BE SILENT NO LONGER. We are MAD AS HELL at BOTH parties. The reign of the PROFESSIONAL politician is OVER. They will STOP dismantling our country, our Constitution, selling out the citizens to foreign countries, and taxing the citizens of this nation into poverty. You CAN’T spend your way out of debt, and you CAN’T CUT 580 BILLION from Medicare AND give more services, you CAN’T ship American jobs oversees by the thousands AND put American’s back to work, you CAN’T import more goods than you export and IMPROVE the economy. It doesn’t matter whether the BLAME is with Bush or Obama or Congress (or a combination of all three) IT STOPS NOW. Obama has angered Americans all over this country because he has gone all over the world APOLOGIZING for America, he has lied about almost everything that matters, he had sided with the Mexican President at condemning Arizona for TRYING to protect it’s borders from Mexican Drug thugs and then has the AUDACITY to file a law suit against AMERICAN CITIZENS who dare to TRY to protect themselves (a job that belongs to the Federal Government in the first place) AND THEN TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY he TURNS AMERICAN CITIZENS over to the UN (like they have the right to reprimand Americans). But, YOU don’t think we should be upset with him?

          • Denniso

            Right, you should be upset w/ the corrupt crooks who got us into this mess. Obama has only been in power for 18 months and came into office w/ the country in a shambles and the world facing a global depression,
            and you place all your outrage at his feet…not logical.

            You want to yell and blame someone then direct it toward the real culprits, Cheny/Bush…you sound intelligent enough to know the history of the 8 yrs of Bush. Be honest and don’t just follow the sheep who are following and doing the bidding of the far right corporatists like the Koch brothers who are funding most of this ‘outrage’.

          • http://aol wayne a

            DENNISO,here you go again popping off but no facts.when obama took office unemployment was 6.4%,its now over 10%.stats from the bureau of labor shows US businesses have shed 3.1 million jobs since obama took office.right now 45 million Americans are living in poverty,this is the largest jump since they began keeping track. 2 yrs ago total gov. debt was 69%,its now 94%.in clintons 1st 2yrs dem were in control of congress and unemployment was 6.5%,after rep took control of congress unemployment was 4.77%.when clinton ended his term it ended with a surplus under a rep congress!on jan. 2007 dem took over congress,shortly before the dow closed at 12,621,the gdp for the previous quarter was 3.5%,unemployment was 4.7% and bush set a record for 52 straight months of job growth.now dem have been in charge 4 yrs,we have record deficit,record number of people unemployed,record home foreclosers,record business failures,record number of illegals,record no. of people in poverty,ENOUGH SAID!

          • lkar

            It seems that when people blame Obama, the left jump all over this and start blamin Bush/Cheney. The problem with this argument is that they are no longer in office. They have no say what soever in the current state of affairs. Obama and the Democrats are in control. Who cares about the Rebublicans! What is happening is people are sick of the system. That was the point of the article! Penny, you seem to get it. Denniso just wants us all to spout off and blame Bush/Cheney/ Republicans.

          • Denniso

            If you people had a clue about the economics of capitalism you might began to understand something about recessions and depressions and what it takes to recover from them. You might follow the dynamics of the beginnings of the crash under one president and the time lag for
            unemployment to begin and continue,even after a recovery begins.

            But no,you have absolutely no interest in learning and understanding…it’s so much easier to blame the president who has been in office for all of 19 months…easier and dumber.

        • Mack

          Denniso,
          You poor lost soul. The only Repubs he sought were those as far-left as he is who would go along sith his socialist plans, that’s right RINO’S! He has caused his own demise in his next election! Americans want FREEDOM! Not socialism. Why don’t people like you listen to those who emigrated from Communist countries? People who come here for the right to follow their dreams, and know America is last place they can do so. They appreciate this country, they even believe in God! I wish all you leberal socialists would go spend a few years in communist countries. That would make you believe in America and freedom. Then we conservatives could bring America back to freedom and prosperity!

          • Denniso

            WOW, now I’m impressed!! The immigrants from former communist countries believe in god!! Now that will make me think twice about
            my entire
            political philosophy. Thanks for the life changing info…

        • Buster

          I agree with you, Denniso, but most of these people are are morons. They are true believers in every sense, and no evidence contrary to their beliefs will change their minds.

          • Denniso

            Thanks…for a while here I was feeling a bit alone in my quest to shed some light into this dark cave of intellectual void and pit of toxic vipers.

            Hey it’s the first day of fall…happy Autumn and addios Summer.

          • a progressive nightmare

            Buster and Denniso, I think the same could apply to the both of you, could it not?

          • Denniso

            Higher up, I asked you to poll the people here as to whether they have ever had any kind of gov’t work or contracts, since they all seem to hate the gov’t…you ignored the comment and only attacked me again personally. What’s the problem,gov’t hater? Are you one of the many here who have had gov’t work and you’re a coward about admitting
            it? Afraid to raise the question among your thug buddies because you can imagine that I’m right? That most of the gov’t hating rightwing
            bomb throwers are former gov’t workers and now have cushy gov’t pensions? Coward…

          • rwnut

            Dengy… You always want someone else to do the work for you. You do the poll. On second thought maybe not,I know how that liberal poll would be manipulated.

        • http://aol wayne a

          DENNISO,obama is trying to save the country? lol first,obama promised tranparency yet obama and his obamacrats voted on obamacare behind closed doors with rep and the media not allowed.why? because of all the deals going on to get the votes.obama has divided this nation like it hasn’t been since the civil war.he refuses to secure our borders even though 78% of the Americans want them closed and secure.since obama took office he has tripled our deficit to historical levels.unemployment was 6.4% when he took office,its now over 10%.there are now 45 million people living in poverty,the largest jump in history. two yrs ago the total gov debt was 69% ,its now 94%.we now have the largest number of people unemployed in history,largest no. of home foreclosers in history,largest no. of business failures in history,largest no. of illegals in history….clinton finished his term with a surplus with a congress controlled by rep.then in 2007 the dem took control of congress.right before this the dow had closed at 12,621,the gdp for the previous quarter was 3.5%,unemployment was 4.7% and bush set a record of 52 straight months of job growth.stats from the bureau of labor said US businesses have shed 3.1 million jobs since obama took office!

        • Victor- : Bunch

          Another Victor sez, Pull Your Head Out of your A– before you smother to death, opps, on second thought don’t pull it out, you may go vote again

          • Denniso

            I assume you mean Wayne…

        • Earl, QUEENS, NY

          About Obama, Denniso says: “He was blamed for the crash before he took office…..” YES!! I’ve been saying likewise!! Look at the negative reaction of Wall Street on 11/5/2008!! And even before the disastrous 11/4/2008 election, how did Wall Street react to the pre-election polls?? It seemed negative as BHO’s lead over McCain widened, and positive if BHO’s lead narrowed. What does that tell us?? It seems many businesses and investors knew long before 1/20/2009 that OBAMA = ‘One Big Awful Mistake America’, and that his regime would be a disaster. As for the ‘crash’, or financial crisis, why blame the GOP?? It has been the liberal democraps, starting with Jimmy Carter, through Clinton to some current democraps, who are to blame for forcing banks to make risky loans to deadbeat homebuyers!!!! Common sense should tell anyone that there is no reason for BHO or his ilk to continue blaming Bush 20 months after Bush left office!!!! GET REAL!!!!

          • Denniso

            That’s some scientific study you presented. The economy was beginning to collapse before the election…it doesn’t collapse in a staight line…Under good times the market is often irrational, and you want to tie the early collapse to Obama…what a joke.

        • Fr. Jim Rosselli

          Dear in Christ, Deniso

          I was a supporter of the first draft of the Obamacare bill. All it
          actually did was expand State medicaid to cover people who fell
          through the cracks. It was a good idea.

          The problem is, the man who would be administering it is Dr. Emmanuel:
          a man who, publicly and unreservedly, advocates a “triage” approach
          to healthcare (as if life itself were a disease). This approach
          calculates one’s “medical worth” in terms of “life-years” and proposes
          that as people–even overall healthy people–get older, it isn’t
          as advisable to “invest” in their treatment because their time of
          potential usefulness to society is shorter. This is a flat denial of
          the individual sanctity of human life; it views human beings as
          ink on paper rather than flesh and blood. It is sociopathic and
          monstrous, and is the standard by which the otherwise-admirable
          plan would have been administered. For this reason, the plan lost my
          support.

          In fact, it lost most peoples’ support and was considered a dead issue
          until the Administration retaliated with the present unwieldy mess
          that, through unconcealed arm-twisting and bribery, passed.

          Call it what you will, any system administered by Dr. Emmanuel will
          institutionalize the premeditated murder of those with insufficient
          (according to Dr. Emmanuel) “social utility.”

          The Obama administration is deeply committed to abortion (the
          premeditated murder of babies).

          One Obama “czar” is on record as calling human beings a “virus
          infecting the planet.”

          I do not recall that in human history there has existed a regime
          which, at every level and in every circumstance, has so despised
          human life. And not any particular category or group, but human
          life, as such. In fact, this administration may be the first ever,
          anywhere.

          Mr. Obama is the first President of the United States to operate
          entirely outside the bounds of the Constitution. He enforces personal
          decrees through a collection of unelected courtiers whom he has
          spared the inconvenience and indignity of Congressional advice and
          consent. They are not Cabinet members, but wield cabinet-level (and
          greater) power. He is, in effect, our first king since George III.

          This is why Americans are displeased with Mr. Obama: because he
          conducts himself not like an American President, but in every way
          (including whimsical taxation to support further means to control his
          people) to like a turn-of-the-20th-Century European monarch.

          Now, I have nothing against monarchs, per se, in countries that
          have them. Our country doesn’t, and in fact fought a revolution
          to set itself free from one. Obama’s pseudo-monarchy, with its
          appointed pseudo-barons and its aloof disregard of the will of
          his employers (the American people), does not “sit well” with
          Americans.

          From taxation to oppressive regulation to the denial of access to
          resources we own, to the insane squandering of such wealth as we
          have left, to support of foreign criminals at our borders, the
          policies of this Administration are unwaveringly suicidal. Yet, he
          is not the first President we’ve had like this. There were Carter
          and Clinton and the Bushes, all of whom indulged in some or most of
          these things.

          They, however, at least acted within the bounds of the Presidency,
          even the most feckless of them stretching, rather than simply and
          casually disregarding, the law.

          It is Mr. Obama’s alienness, what National Review calls his “post-American presidency,” that is so repugnant to Americans and which
          makes it imperative that he be restrained now and removed eventually,
          that his example may not be followed by anyone elected to the
          Presidency of the United States, ever again.

          I hope this answers your question.

          • Denniso

            Overly long winded, and wrong on most counts…go ahead, vote for the samr dimwitts who got us into this mess and who believe in their stupidity that the ‘market’ is divine and will correct itself if left alone. Luckily,you people are in the minority and can be ignored as kooks.

          • rwnut

            Fr. Jim Rosselli…The Hussein regime has pulled a page straight out of the Nazi extermination playbook.

          • libertytrain

            Fr. Jim – what an excellent post – thanks so much for making it even clearer for me to understand – of course, I set myself up for ridicule stating that but that’s ok with me.

          • BrotherPatriot

            Nice work & say it as it is, Mr. Rosselli. Ty!!!

        • http://socialistyahooooooooo mike arnold

          idiot,please pull your head out of your (offensive words removed)

      • giley1

        Divide and conquer, that is the clear message that comes out of the Obama agenda. Anger is at an all time high with this president. He is trying to manipulate every aspect or our Democracy. He is no longer to be trusted to protect the citizens of this country when he sells out the state of Arizona to Mexico. Millions more were given to Mexico to fight its drug war than was given to Arizona to fight illegal crossings. Then the stab in the back came when Arizona was sued for trying to protect its citizens and sovereignty.

        • Victor- : Bunch

          Anybody that thinks we have a democracy can’t be trusted either, you will not find the word in the constitution, have you recited the pledge lately or ever for that matter,

        • Ellen

          Giley1: we do not have a democracy……it’s a Constitutional Republic…..huge difference.

    • marvin

      s c like obama told the black caucus get out their and get the blacks to the poles to vote, what he was saying don,t let conseritive and the white people win,obama the great pretender cares nothing for white people or for that matter anyone that can not further his quest for power, any president that would turn a state like arizona in to the un for human rights violations for passing immigration laws that he don,t want enforced,need be impeached for dereliction of duty

      • Gordon in Texas

        Obama has one goal in mind: destroy our system; our way of life. He has made it very clear that he has nothing but contempt for the US Flag (the crotch salute), the rights and sovereignty of states (suing Arizona, siding with Mexico, and bringing the immigration issue to the U.N.), the rights of the US worker (refusing to actively deal with the unemployment issues), corporate America (nationalizing the auto industry and banking institutions), and small business (refusing to budge on continuing tax cuts).

        We’re dealing with a person who has had an agenda very early in his life and is now acting it out. Obama has made no bones about his distain for white America but he also refuses to do a damn thing for black America. His agenda does not include making America stronger because America represents everything he detests: independence, family values, personal success of every race and color, and unity.

        And anyone who believes that this agenda is all Obama’s making needs to wake up. Obama is just not smart enough or clever enough to pull it off. There is some serious backing behind this socialist/Marxist.

        • Richard Pawley

          Well, Gordon, considering that he was raised by Marxists, Communists and Socialists and attended a Muslim school in his formative years it is hardly surprising that he thinks and believes as he does. On top of that when he was introduced to Christianity it was an aberration of Christianity called “Liberation Theology” so he doesn’t even know or understand what most of the followers of Jesus Christ know and understand. Yes, it is the American way to blame the man at the helm (perhaps we need a woman for a change – of course, then we will blame her). However, remember that the president only proposes new laws and changes. IT IS CONGRESS WHO PASSES ALL THESE UNAMERICAN LAWS THAT ARE DESTROYING BOTH THE DOLLAR AND THE ECONOMY. They don’t even make the laws anymore as the Constitution requires. That is done by special interests, the unions and multi-national corporations. Sadly, according to elitists like Nancy Pelosi, Congress doesn’t even read the laws they pass. Seventy (70) members of Congress are actually members of the Democratic Socialists of America which shows how far we have fallen as a country. As I pointed out in “THE LAST DAYS OF THE LATE GREAT UNITED STATES” even the information found in the Old Testament of the Bible using a super computer and the Bible Code software indicates that there is a high probability that Obama will go home in defeat, being blamed for the collapse of things as we have known them. This doesn’t mean that it must happen because the Bible Code is all based on probability, but there is a good chance that Obama will be blamed. My wife even had a dream to that effect where he returned to Chicago with his head held low amid a much ruined economy. For those who are interested they can research more at the Isaac Newton Bible Code Research Society. The point is that we must continue to replace the establishment in November or else it will be just more of the same. However, the money squandered by Congress will eventually result in big inflation in food and all things imported. That is simply the way our economy works although most don’t seem to know this and it takes years to work its way through the system, but if we don’t replace the 111th Congress it could be a whole lot worse in a few years than just food prices tripling. Believers need to pray and vote, and non-believers need to vote. Both will be required to stop our ship of state from sinking (into a morass sea of unpayable debt and horrendous inflation after the deflation ends). May God help us because no one else is going to do so.

          • Lyla Cavanaugh

            This socialist scam has gone much deeper and is much worse than people realize. Oregon is Being paid 26 % for running all its about 26 counties to not cut own trees, money it’s senator claims it cannot now do with out! Who knew? Watch C-Span.

        • Craig

          This is such a complete crock. Who is your pimp? Never mind I know the answer to that. The problem with the world today is the crooked big business special interest, their delivery men, the soulless lobbyist and their whores, the politicians who in turn manipulate our laws to make the systematic rape of the average person in the USA and the rest of the world legal. We need to make special interest lobbying illegal. Then we need to tax any company that off shores jobs that can be done by Americans, make it a crime for any illegal aliens to work or to hire an illegal alien. Use the prison system to rebuild the infrastructure. This is just a beginning but big business will never allow it because this does not serve their interest. It serves the American peoples interest. Isn’t that what Government is meant to do? We need government more than ever now. Turning the Government back over to the republicans now is like getting the wolf to guard the hen house. We must wake up now and turn a deaf ear to the bull propaganda being dished out by the whores of big business.

          • Charles

            Craig, you turn a blind eye to the fact that Osama and his minions have more than quadrupled the debt in less than two years, something the Republicans never came close to doing. You also ignore the fact that it was the Wall Street fat-cats who poured millions of dollars into Osama’s election bid, because they expected him to favor them. Why is it that liberals refuse to grow a brain?

          • meteorlady

            So it’s not corporaitons, it’s the world banking elite and super wealthy. The George Soros and Bildenberg Group that control our country right now. They have created a lot of crisis to get what they want done.

            Take Cap & Trade and the whole global warming thing…. If the bill passes, it is estimated that over 10 TRILLION dollars each year will be traded on the CXX exchange. At a commission rate of only 4 percent, the exchange would earn close to 400 billion dollars to split between its owners, all Obama cronies. At a 2 percent rate, Goldman Sachs would also rake in 200 billion dollars each year.With 10 trillion dollars flowing though Shore Bank accounts, the bank will earn close to 40 billion dollars in interest each year for its owners (more Obama cronies), without even breaking a sweat.

            It is estimated Al Gore alone will probably rake in 15 billion dollars just in the first year. Of course, Obama’s “commissions” will be held in trust for him at the Joyce Foundation. They are estimated to be over 8 billion dollars by the time he leaves office in 2013, if the bill passes this year. Of course, these commissions will continue to be paid for the rest of his life.

            Some financial experts think this will be the largest “scam” or”legal heist” in world history. Obama’s cronies make the Mafia look like rank amateurs. They will make Bernie Madoff’s fraud look like penny ante stuff.

            This is the type of stuff that goes on in BOTH parties, but seems more and more in the Democratic party because they are well funded by the one world order elites. There are Republicans too that have taken money and are beholden to these people so watch and notice, check their voting records and meet and greet all that you can before voting.

          • dan az

            meteor lady
            thanks for that I was hoping it would come around again!where can I find that so as to spread it around? Could you please give me a site?thanks

          • Denniso

            Rightwingers and the tea party have no problem w/ huge corporations controlling the country…if they get their way they will hand deliver the gov’t to big biz…

          • http://naver samurai

            Well denniso, would that count your boyfriend Michael Moore? He has stocks in many big energy companies to include Haliburton. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Denniso

            You guys are just making up crap…a little dishonest,don’t you think?
            Try telling the truth once in a while.

    • hippership

      Bravo. Good response. I think even the usually ill informed Democracts are now re-thinking Obama and the rest of congress.

    • Carolina Mom

      Well said…

    • Jason Johnson

      The Republican leadership, as manifested by Karl Rove’s comments regarding Chrsitine O’Donell, doesn’t get it–elections cannot and will not be won by playing to the center or by being Democrat Lite.

      • meteorlady

        There are many Republicans that take money from Soros and Bildenberg Group and attend their secrete meetings. We need to be watchful and vote accordingly. Rove is probably involved with some of them.

        • Denniso

          Keep kicking people out of the Repub party so we can more easily kick your butts in Nov. The more radical and exclusive you make the party
          the more you lose. But I know, you won’t believe me because I’m always wrong, so just keep doing what you’re doing and purge the party
          of all moderates who can win national elections, and put up more wackos that will bw laughed off the stage…

          • http://naver samurai

            You’re the only real wacko on this site I see.

          • http://aol wayne a

            DENNISO,even a lot of the dem are starting to dessert obama.with the election most have opted not to have obama campaign for them,i wonder why? lol during a recent interview with cnn,obama himself said theres a good chance he would be a one term president.

          • a progressive nightmare

            I think we have really touched on a progressive nerve with cleaning up the GOP via the TP. Ole DENNISO is about to blow a fuse! When you have die hard progressives DEMS complaining about what you are doing to the “Opposition” then that should tell us all we need to know.

            Since infiltrating both parties, they have been able to progressively take away our FREEDOMS. Now, they are frightened because the American public is aware of who they are and their marxist agenda for America.

            Fact is, this progressive desease has got to be exterminated, out of both parties, eventually. Let’s get started in November!

          • Denniso

            Keep listening to Michael Savage for your stupid sound bites…

          • rwnut

            dengyo…I just saw Slick Willie Clintoon on tv defending the Tea Party.

          • rwnut

            Michael Savage rules and ol’ dingy knows it.

          • Unise

            Denniso, why would you choose to close your eyes to truth all around you and insist on spitting out the same talking points that liberals have been putting out there for 5 years? It sounds like you really want to think clearly, so START. Our nation’s survival is not about a democrat or a republican its about the idea of a free world. Thats the nation we have been blessed with, so don’t let media hogwash persuade you or hook you by the nose and mindlessly you have to follow. God gave you a brain. Now USE it.

      • Victor- : Bunch

        All OF YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET THIS REPUBLICRAT AND DEMOPUB’S MENTALITY OUT OF YOUR SYSTEMS, DO A YAHOOSEARCH ON THE GREAT DECEPTION BY JIM SHAW AND YOU WILL FIND WHERE ALL OUR PROBLEM’S CAME FROM, 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB

    • JC

      Right on SC! It’s time for the America hating, Kenyan sociopath to get back to Africa.

      • http://naver samurai

        Tell me how much it costs and I’ll buy it for him myself.

        • dan az

          samurai
          lets put him in the snail mail and send him back!

    • Montana Mole

      I wish I could come up with statements like that.

    • Peter

      Bob, you had me for the first few paragraphs, but then came the extremist abuse and mindless ramblings accusing BO of being all things bad to all people, regardless of intent or results. I don’t deny there is some truth in what you say, but that truth is obscured by extreme rhetoric and abuse that does you no credit at all. It belies any intelligent analysis or basis for your arguments, and belittles you as a human being. I would love to read a balanced dissertation from you on the subject above, and I hope you can bring yourself to write one. In case you or anyone else is wondering, I’m not a BO supporter, but I do believe very strongly in balanced reporting, because you demand that balance from BO, but say you’re not getting it; yet you provide no balance in your writing either, just one-sided extremism. Over to you.

      • Peter

        Interesting isn’t it? It’s been more than 24 hours since my first post on this matter. Deniso has stirred up many vitriolic responses, but my one set of questions remains unanswered! Why, I wonder? Could it be that neither Bob nor any of the rabid right-wingers on here have the slightest thing intelligent to say? I hope not! I truly hope there is even a modicum of intelligence alive in this extremist right wing mindset. But I shall not hold my breath!

  • Viktor Leben

    I hope Bob is right coming election day. Allow me to be the pessimist. In my dumbass opinion – I think the Democrats are going to lose a few seats, but not as many to make much of a difference. Most of the Repubs will just get “bought out” by the “power elite”. Everyone has their price ! No politician is perfect..

    Your best bet is to just stock up on food. Buy can food and raw foods like beans !! I shop at Aldi’s and I buy alot of Pork and Beans..

    If you have money to buy gold/silver, do it. Bob is sure right about that ! I’ve been unemployed since 2006, so I’m just buying some extra food – can’t afford gold/silver …

    • 1Fearless1

      Republican or Democrat all of Washington is controlled by the Puppet Master!. He pulls the strings and The Politiciana do his dance. They better wake up and read “the Tale of Two Cities”! It could happen here!

    • Doc Sarvis

      Unemployed since 2006. Wow, sorry to hear that. How do you get by? Do you receive unemployment?

      • Viktor Leben

        Unemployment “benefits” aren’t consistent . You get benefits for a few months and then you don’t qualify. I’m a 99′er right now hoping for either a job (ie something that pays at least $10/hr) or Tier 5.

        What I have learned is you can live on less money and actually live better. I use to eat out at a nice restaurant with my wife at least once a week. We had to cut out the $40 plus tip meals at TGIF or Chilis…
        Instead of going to Texas Steak House and spending $30 for a good steak meal, I buy steak on sale at the supermarket. I can make the same meal for about 6 dollars ….

        The bottom line is be as stingy (like Scrooge McDuck) as you can. Be a miser. You have an excuse – you’re not working ! Cut off all your mooching friends, tell them once you get a job they can mooch off of you, but not now. Most of my friends understand I’m broke – Some of them have actually offered to buy the meal at a restaurant (usually McDonald’s or BK – that’s as good as moochers are) !

        Stay Home. The more you stay home, the less money you spend. I’ve taken up a new hobby – it’s called Math. I have old Math books and I go thru them. Keeps me home. Plus I try to learn more about computers. Got an old PC. I’m learning FreeBSD right now – a very amusing experience ! Those FreeBSD people sure are a bunch of jokers ! Great OS though.

        That’s a bout it …

        • cwew

          Viktor- I have been working off and on since the election in 2008. In my 57 years, I have never taken ANY government handouts. I work for what I get. I’ll do anything to make money as long as it is legal. I do not ask or let friends buy my food; albeit McDonald’s or Burger King. You are a 99′er? Get off your ass and regain some dignity. You are a mooch! You are mooching off the taxpayers.

          • Viktor Leben

            I paid into the system and so did my boss !

            But then again cwew, it’s not being financially free – depending on government.

            I’ll take your advice (in moderation !) and see what I can do …

        • RUDY

          I am always impressed when someone says that they can make the same meal that they get OUT for around $6 at home. I appreciate the sentiment, and I do believe your heart is in the right place, but you are way off on your numbers and I wonder what your situation truly is. If you are hurting for money, and I PERSONALLY am in that place, you don’t look much at steak, because anything that you can cook at home and still EAT is going to cost around $10 just for one person. Add the extras, even just a salad, and those fixings are still going to hit around $14, and that is if you drink water out of the tap. Food prices have gone up sharply in this idiot economy, when CORN is being sold for FUEL instead of FOOD, and FUEL is only for the RICH!

          • http://poehw@comcast.net Flip one over

            Where do you live? I can buy a 10lb bag of chicken legs and thighs at 49cents/lb cook them off, make a little gravy, and instant mashed potatoes, open a 49 cent can of peas and have a great meal, then I split the left overs and make chicken potpie in one pot and chicken corn soup in the second pot, I then have potpie for 3 or 4 days and with the frozen corn soup that will give total of about 10 meals and I am a big eater. so this total that up.

            $4.90 chicken
            $1.29 bread at aldi
            $0.10 flower
            $0.40 electric
            $2.00 gas to go to the store
            $1.59 potpie noodles
            $0.55 to freeze the soup
            $0.75 soap to clean up and other costs.

            Ok, lets see, that is comes to about $11.58 PS: my labor is free.
            divided by the 10 meals comes to about $1.59/meal.

            But keep in mind, I am a working man and I donot get foodstamps or any freebies. Now if I was on wellfare, Well then I could afford a nice stake because obama, pelosie, reid and the other commie, pinko, radical muslums, Rino republicans, and progressives, said I am entitled to live off the back of hard working folks like me, and to grab as much free stuff as possible. But then again I can understand your frustration with you station in life when you realize how good the illegal aliens have it here in the US of A. Have a nice meal with you ill gotten steak, because you sure worked hard to get all those bennies you are now enjoying.

    • http://sparkysma@earthlink.net Penny R. Freeman

      I can feel your pain. I lost my job in 2006 as well, one I’d had since 1989. Unfortunately I have more than one chronic health issue and there is no public transportation here (I’m not able to drive)-we live across the state line in MS from Memphis,TN. I live with my oldest adult son or would probably be on the street by now. The stock up on food is something I always try to do anyway. As for arms, getting a gun and getting himself training was one of the first things I advised my son to do. He works in Memphis and I have been afraid some looney would put a bullet in Obama’s head and start a race war As you may or may not realize Memphis is one place where the local politicians like to constantly stir up hard feelings toward whites with their African-American citizens because that almost always works in their favor. Why I still don’t understand. Memphis has a history of corrupt black politicians doing whatever to rob the citizens, one even went so far as to demand that the citizens go along with his policy with the slogan-Memphis, love it or leave it. I have a lot of African-American friends, one of whom was quite shocked that I wasn’t backing Obama. I am a tea party member and will never back Obama or any member of Congress who votes for his agenda. And Congress-not just the members from my state-are constantly hearing about my displeasure with the way they are destroying my children’s future. I say vote all the bums out, and if the next round doesn’t meet the standard vote them out. And it’s past time to FORCE every member of Congress to have a term limit. With term limits you, hopefully, wouldn’t get people in there for 40 years like Rangel who are robbing the people while not paying his own fair share.

      • Viktor Leben

        Most of my friends/acquaintances are DEMOCRATS ! I live in CT. So I just LIE and tell them I love Obama. I always joke with them that I voted for Chuck Baldwin (actually I did) and they think I’m joking ….

        You have allot of courage telling your friends you don’t like Obama .

        I sure would hate to incur the wrath of my Democratic friends. They are so naive…

        • William

          Victor Mbest friend is a yellow dog democrat. I am an indipendant very conservative and very anti obummer and my friend knows my fealings very well. and any one else who wants to can know them damned quick. it takes an absolute

        • marvin

          Viktor Leben if you have to lie to your friends to keep them you would not be losing much a friend is for you thru thick and thin not your polictical believe,s

        • http://Aol Carol

          Being a older person a young 75 as I have a friend in Mich that is 87 . She is a rep and I am a Dem. She wouldn’t vote for McCaine and I wouldn’t vote for Obama. So we wrote in each others name. Said to each other someone is going to say who the hell are these people. That way we had no problems what so ever!!
          Good luck people we are all screwed.

        • http://none Alex

          Wow–a Fright Winger who admits that his views hold no water and that he does not have enough belief in them to be honest with his “friends”. What a loser…

          • http://naver samurai

            Oh I think that Obama bin Laden has lied pretty good to the people, how is that different? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • rwnut

            Hey,Hussein was in church the other day,and even took the tv cameras with him.Great picture of him with his head slightly lowered and his eyes closed.Wonder why he would suddenly be doing that? Denngyosso?

      • marvin

        Penny R. Freeman, rangel[rangel was not a federal judge] making a point hastings from fl was a federal judge[life time appontment]was impeached and lost all his benifits, so he ran for congress the people of his district elected him just like rangel will be re elected, we as conseritive put the boot to most crooks, but liberal just re elect them

      • Cameron

        Not many people realize that blacks can be & often ARE the most racist people in America. Not all, but too many are. “They CAN’T be racist! They’ve been discriminated against for SO LONG!” I can introduce you to the most racist Black man in the South. He was recently convicted (upheld on appeal) of violating the civil & voting rights of white voters where he be de chairman ob de Democrat Party Commission. I have been predicting a race war in America for many years. It’s coming, sad to say, & a lot of innocent people, black & white, will be caught up in it & suffer because of it. The right gun(s), plenty of ammo, & the skills & mindset to use deadly force to protect yourself & your family & property will be necessary. God help us. We need it.

        • Bob

          Cameron You might be right. I think the gov’t is pushing the people into a war. After most of the people are dead the UN army will come in to finish off the rest. It’s time we stopped fighting amongst ourselves and went after the real enemy, the politicians and tar and feather the bums. The only reason we haven’t been taken over is because of all the guns we own. But with the modern weapons they will just blow up cities and towns. When the politicians disappear into their underground bunkers be ready.

          • Denniso

            If there ever is a war w/ the gov’t, the gun nuts will be on ther backs so quickly it won’t be funny…

            Blacks are the most racist? Spoken like a true racist.

      • independant thinker

        I agree with your thoughts on Memphis. I lived there for a few years (job required it) and always carried a boot knife, pistol, or both with me.

    • BigBadJohn

      “Most of the Repubs will just get “bought out” by the “power elite”.”

      Thank you BOTH parties are the same! Too bad most folks here keep saying things like “we need to get republicans back in power” Republicans always try to claim they are the fiscally conservative party but they are responsible for 75% of the national debt!!!

      The main difference between the two parties is where they send the pork. The other big difference is that republicans have learned that tax cuts are popular and they are willing to destroy America by giving tax cuts just to maintain power.

      • Dagney

        Both parties are the same, huh? How many Republicans voted for the health care monstrosity? Oh, that’s right, NONE. No, there are no perfect people. No, not all Republicans are conservative. So, let’s help the conservatives take over the Republican party, boot all the elite rhino’s and, then, crush the Marxist-Democrat party, shall we??

        • a progressive nightmare

          Count me in!

        • Viktor Leben

          Or we could build a transcontinental railroad and have you run it !

          • Dagney

            LOL!

        • Bonnie

          Bush AND the Republicans are responsible for most of the unconstitutional laws (check out Bush’s signing statements!) that Obama is freely using to develop the new world order. That’s why I didn’t go too far with the ‘tea party.’ They were on the neo-con bandwagon with the Zionists, and seemed to swallow the ‘evil Muslims’ BS that is being spoon fed by TPTB. (the powers that be!) I hear it on a DAILY basis. The evil Muslims, the evil Muslims! You’d be pissed off too if the USA has been mucking around in your country and politics for 80 plus years. Quit saying things like ‘America, right or wrong!’ and start admitting “Yes, the U.S. has had a screwed up foreign policy, but we are going to follow the mandate of the framers of the Constitution and discontinue ‘preemptive war’ and foreign entanglements. Check it out, the MSM continues to beat the hate drum, (and the people love it so!) take the Mosque in NYC, a CIA backed Psy-Op. Don’t be so stupid, people. We are constantly being bombarded with ‘wag the dog’ propaganda. After reading this article, I again have a ray of hope for the ‘tea party,’ if… they keep learning, and if they can get themselves loose from that shill Glen Beck!

          • meteorlady

            That would be because GWB is a member of the Bildenberg Group. Nice to know huh? Well, he wasn’t a true conservative and did take a lot of our rights from us. We need to be careful when we say vote only Republican – some are just at bad and Reid, Pelosi and the rest.

          • http://Aol Carol

            B.S.

        • http://drg-freeassociation.blogspot.com/ DrG

          As a long time Libertarian, w a record of opposing Big Govt, I have to agree w BBJ. The republicans have been a complete disappointment to lovers of small govt. While they may not be as bad as Democrats, esp this administration, the record is clear that both Demoblicans and Repubicrats are responsible for the relentless growth of govt., adn those of you who think re-electing repubs will magically fix our problems are almost as delusional as Austan Goolsbee.

          I hope the Tea Party wave will remake the republican party, but I’ll continue to vote Libertarian, where I know what I’m voting for.

          • a progressive nightmare

            DrG, I am a lifelong republican and I cannot disagree with your comments. Although I am registered as a republican, I have voted a split ticket for decades. Even done a couple of write-in’s. One of my write-in names was “GOFYS”, another was “an unamerican pathetic candidate”.

            Unfortunately at this point, all I can do, in most cases(past and present), is vote for the lesser of two evils, full blown progressives(Marxist American/constitution hating Dems) or progressive lites(A tax and spend Bush Equivalent). Neither of the aforestated types could manage a two-kid kindergarten, thus TRILLIONS of debt as a legacy to our grandchildren.

            I see arguments on this blog all the time about extending the BUSH tax cuts and it makes me laugh. Fact is, we need to go WAY BEYOND the BUSH tax cuts…way beyond….with a complete dismantling of the IRS tax code and implemeting a national sales tax.

            Now, given the aforestated, at least through the TP, we have derailed several republicans who were nothing more than progressive lites. I think this movement will continue to grow in both size and scope eventually returning the GOP back to it’s core fiscal conservative principles, and you never know, it may bring a few Ronald Regan dems back to the same conclusion.

          • Conservative at Birth

            So, you will continue wasting your vote? How many Libertarians have ever been elected?

          • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

            There are as many versions of Libertarian as there are of Democrat or Republican. You have to vote for the candidate.

          • meteorlady

            The “wasted vote” argument is just propaganda put out by both parties so that you will stick with them no matter what. There have been Libertarians elected in states and local races. People are not totally stupid and they are getting smarter and smarter.

            If you take the time to study up on the candidates, check voting records, look at whose contributing to their campaign, who they have aligned themselves with, and actually did a meet and greet sometime you would be a smart and well informed voter. A SMART AND WELL INFORMED VOTE IS NOT WASTED.

        • cella

          You retards who are so worried about healthcare. They should take Medicare from Seniors and make them purchase it on their own. Do not think it won’t happen. The hate everyone has spilled over will be met with getting rid of it. The Republicans are laughing all the way to the bank. The younger generation does not want to pay……………….so all you seniors might be like the rest of the country, so good luck finding care for 149 dollars a month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • meteorlady

            “You retards” – shows you have nothing intelligent to say right off the bat.

            You have already taken most of it away under the new health care reform. If I had all the money (taxes) that I have to pay for that program, I would be able to purchase some pretty cadillac health care insurance.

            Republicans and Democrats are laughing all the way to the bank.

            If seniors had all the money that they paid into the Social Security System TRUST FUND they would be in fat city instead of worrying that it will go broke. So next time you decide to all names or insults groups of people, remember that it makes you look stupid and like a petulant child.

        • RUDY

          Dagney, in MHO, the only reason that the Republicans were not voting on the issues is because they are already out voted by the reigning party, and so they could hold out and “save face”. We are in such dangerous circumstances today, we really don’t have many trustworthy people in either party, or they would already have raised a hue and cry over the ineligibility of this 0bama clown to hold office. The rest of the horror show that has carried on these nearly two years would not have taken place, if the Republicans were as true blue as they should be. They are just as corrupt, and we have to be so careful. But displacing as much of the current holders of office as we can should put them off balance long enough for US to get a bit better grip on things. PRAY!

          • Dagney

            Oh, I agree. Very few are trustworthy. However, there are NO conservative democrats. We must work with what we have, getting rid of RINO’s and bolstering true conservatives. It’s not going to happen by November 3rd. You must realize this. It took a lot of years for the evil of the progressive movement to make this much headway. We cannot allow people to go to sleep again!

      • alpha-lemming

        Tax cuts are popular because THEY WORK!! They are, however, counter-productive if equal (if not greater) spending cuts accompany the tax cuts. Look at the EXPLOSION of government spending after Reagans tax cuts. FACT… more money arrived in the federal coffers AFTER the tax-cuts vs. the ~75% top rate under Carter. Using the “stagnant” economic model libs are so fond of this should have been impossible, but figures don’t lie. FACT…. 1 out of every 3 federal dollars is lost to waste, fraud, abuse, redudancy, and just plain old evaporation ala accounting (aka… “We don’t know where the money went”… actual quote coming out of Congress). An IMMEDIATE 33% spending reduction would do more to right the ship of state than a dozen bail-out give-aways amounting to trillions of dollars.

        • Cameron

          Figures don’t lie, but liars figure, & that’s what’s wrong w/our government. too many liars getting elected to office, i.e., OBAMA.

        • Vicki

          3 times in our history there were significant tax cuts on ALL classes. 3 times the actual amount of money flowing into the US government went up. In the 1920s it was the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s the Kennedy tax cuts.

          As Alpha says. Figures don’t lie. Even though the democrat controlled CBO tried to hide the truth.
          http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm

          So the only thing that kept us from being a debt free government is the insatiable desire to spend money by the politicians. Usually democrats. Remember CONGRESS spends the money and Demcrats were in charge during the Reagan years.

          • http://drg-freeassociation.blogspot.com/ DrG

            Name a single year that congress passed a lower budget than the previous, republican or democrat. For all of Newt Gingrich’s bluster, and talk of eliminating the depts of energy and education during the contract w America, the republican congress never even cut the budget of these small depts.

          • vicki

            DrG. Sure. I will name more than one just cause :0

            1965
            1969,1970,1971 (These 3 were about even but all less then 1968)
            1987
            1993

            http://www.supportingevidence.com/Government/fed_budget_over_time.html

            You did remember to adjust for the massive amount of (paper) dollars printed for us during the Carter years, right?

      • Dave Smith

        “Giving Tax cuts to destoy America”. Never ever has there been a more ignorant statement made. Don’t worry, your food stamps are in the mail. I paid for them.

      • ken123

        Bob you have differentiate between Republicans and Conservatives. Then you must break Conservatives down into Fiscal, Social, and Constitutionalists. A individual thats a Constructionist is generally oriented towards a Constitutional advocate and a strong supporter of Liberty and the Original Constitutional limits on government. Don’t put all Republicans into this mix, they don’t belong there.

        • a progressive nightmare

          Very true and the result of the founding of the TP movement.

      • LocalYokel

        Democrats have a reputation for lassoing more funds for local distribution.(using taxes to buy local voters)
        So if both are rotten just what is your solution, more of the same?
        Or can you suggest a cure after you wash the puke out of your mouth?
        Time for a line in the dust is rapidly approaching. Then you get the chance to live up to your title or beg when all the talking is over.

      • JeffH

        BBJ, I don’t know where you get your information from by saying :”Too bad most folks here keep saying things like “we need to get republicans back in power”.

        I do see most people hammering the Republicans and seldom read a comment that calls for the Republican to get back in power.

        • JC

          I noticed the same thing Jeff, seems most folks just want “good” government.

      • JC

        BBJ does have a point. Both parties have had surges in the growth of the leviathan government. It’s time that We The People took our government back to Conservative / Constitutional values. Vote the person, not the party.

    • Eddie Gianola

      Beans,beans,the musical fruit,the more ya eat,the more ya toot! Hope yer family survives ok. Whew!

      • Viktor Leben

        Eddie,

        After awhile you don’t “toot”, your body adapts. It’s just the Pinto Beans you got to be careful about. You got to boil them rapidly for like 15 minutes, then a low boil/simmer for at least 2 hours, preferably 3. That’s after you soak them overnite. Trust me, if you don’t boil them rapidly for that first 15 minutes, you will explode ! And forget Pinto Beans and crock pots ….

        • Richard Pawley

          Viktor, dry beans are good because there is a lot of protein in them but they are not perfect. Quinoa (Keen-Wah) is even better as it has all the amino acids the human body needs. Spaghetti will last at least a decade if it’s good quality to begin with and you seal it in a large plastic container like the ones that pretzels are sometimes sold in. I have one from a decade ago that is still good (ate the rest). Ragu spaghetti sauce (with no meat or cheese in it) packed in glass jars will last three years past expiration. Vacuum packed coffee in cans will last a decade if stored in a cool dry place. These things I know from experience. Ordinary canned goods won’t last to long unless they are dry. However, as you accumulate a little money you can buy things that will last much longer, freeze dried and packed in large cans with nitrogen or an oxygen absorber, that will last for decades in a cool dry basement, ground beef and turkey and chicken, blueberries and various fruits and vegetables. I have purchased such from http://store.honeyvillegrain.com and they have 10% sales every few months and shipping is included. Case prices are less and if you go in with a church or club or a group of people you can do even better in quantity. I’ve been told their canned powdered milk is only so-so and I have avoided that. I have purchased 36 cans of Australian canned cheese (made from milk with no artificial bovine hormones in it from grass fed cows) for less than a hundred dollars including shipping from Laurie Gawronski of G&R Foods, in Reedsburg, WI (608-524-3776). The cans are about the size of the old tuna fish cans, 7 ounces, and it makes great sandwiches and is a cross between a cheddar and a processed cheese because it has cream added. I’ve had it a year now without refrigeration and it’s fine. I had some last week. The pioneers used to stockpile food for each winter but we can’t seem to go a week without running to the store. One day in the future Americans are going to be shocked at what happens and those who can get by for a few months will thank God they felt guided to prepare. Think empty stores for a month and then reduced goods at greatly inflated prices and you will be close to what I think is coming. Don’t become a fanatic and don’t over pay but learn all you can about non-perishable foods while there is still time and be sure to vote in November and maybe we can postpone this a while longer. The way Congress has been squandering borrowed money they seem hell bent to bring this all about. You know you can’t spend what you don’t have but Congress doesn’t have a clue about such things. Send them home where they can learn this lesson in November. Be sure to vote in November. It’s more important than many realize. Take nothing for granted. Can we do all this: Yes, we can!

          • Viktor Leben

            Thanks for the advice, I’ll check it out.

    • Ken

      If the corrupt socialists hold onto Congress there will be no Aldi’s to go to, Wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Viktor Leben

        Time to move to Germany …

        • meteorlady

          Right – the German people have let the Muslims over populate and now it is a matter of time before the German race will be gone. It can not sustain itself with the numbers it now has.

          • Viktor Leben

            I don’t think their are to many in Swabea ..

    • http://raptureready reluctnt cavalierier

      my wife and i have both been out of jobs for some time now…we are not only saving up on pork and beans as you have put it but we are amassing chickens both setting and laying…you need both.And we are collecting goats…4 nannys and 1 billy. for milk soap butter and cheese. we have a water purification system that we found on the internet that consists of steel enameled bath tubs that lead into 2 30 gal plastic tubs with 2 kinds of rock and 2 types of sand…I wont choose sides on this debate but will say that the dems. and the repubs. have craftily devided the masses into 2 groups that fight each other instead of going after the real enemy…itis greed of the 2 partys.. and we fight against those who have been hurt as bad as we have… instead of standing in opposition against those who we’ve elected to protect us and were sold down the river by them instead…the enemy of my enemy is my friend or at least my reluctant ally . not the dems or the rebubs. We struggle against the abuse of power by those who should know better, aimed at those who elected them in the first place for protection reluctnt cavalier…ps i’d start preparing if i were you this has potential world wide ramifications reluctnt cavalier

      • Cameron

        A lot of people think OIL is the most precious liquid in existence. Tain’t so! It’s WATER! We can live w/o oil, but we need water to survive.

      • Richard Pawley

        Yes, what is coming will eventually be world-wide. The CIA first came to the conclusion more than 30 years ago that there would be world wide famine by 2025. Many things have changed since then but they seem to have been right on target. I only hope it won’t be for another 15 years but I personally think food inflation will be here much sooner. Some of my sources think it will be here by 2012. The time to prepare is now. You can see the addresses I gave a dozen or more comments back of places you can buy non-perishable food at reasonable prices, and I believe inflation alone will eventually pay for these. Only God knows how much time we have but He has warned us as I pointed out in my last book. As I have said before, don’t go crazy and don’t overpay but start today.

    • Andy Howey

      Viktor: The problem is that the words “politician” and “perfect” cannot legitimately exist in the same sentence. Even being in the same paragraph is stretching reality. By the time a person has decided to make politics a career, she or he is already hopelessly corrupted. They don’t care about their constituents, and they certainly don’t care about the town/city, state, or nation (as the case may be) in general. All they care about is riding the gravy train and greasing the right palms so that they can continue to ride the gravy train. The system needs to be changed so that these people term out. Maybe three terms at most, and then replace them.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Andy, Unfortunately, it would be very difficult to disagree with you given our current circumstances with all the PERMANENT CORRUPT CAREER POLITICIANS we have in Washington, even though this would eliminate people like Jim DeMint of SC, of which without him and a few others, we wouldn’t have a constitution left, at this point.

    • Charles

      I have been unemployed since the end of 2005. No unemployment benefits, no retirement, no Social Security, nothing. I guarantee you I am not included in the “unemployed” numbers, because the government decided that I don’t exist. Except that they are still trying to extort money from me. Still, I have never wanted the government to steal money from “the rich” to give to me. I just want the government out of my life. I want the government to leave a country for my children and grand-children.

    • dan az

      viktor
      He who has the lead will have the gold!

      • Viktor Leben

        You said “lead” HA HA ! I love the 2nd amendment !!!

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Jill

      You are so wrong. They will lose their majority and Obama will be impeached

      • http://naver samurai

        Right on, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Denniso

          It’s true that the repubs will impeach a ham sandwich, but Obama will
          be your president for 61/2 more yrs…time to celebrate!!

          • Viktor Leben

            You’re are probably right …

            What happen to the philosopher-king type leader ? Or someone like Pericles ?

  • FreedomFighter

    Stocked up, locked and loaded.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • GreatScott

      Same Here. I have been out of work for 14 months, have a side business going while I am on the dole and I hate it.

      • Viktor Leben

        Welcome to the new economy ! Make money in the underground economy ! Exciting !

    • Cameron

      de oppreso libre

      • dan az

        cameron
        ok I have to ask what does that mean?

        • JC

          It is US Army tradition that the phrase is Latin for “[to free from oppression]” or “[to liberate the oppressed]“.

          De oppresso liber is the motto of the United States Army Special Forces.

        • JC

          And another:

          “Sic semper tyrannis”

          “Thus always to tyrants” redirects here. For the Scott Miller album, see Thus Always to Tyrants (album).

          Great Seal of Virginia with the state motto.Sic semper tyrannis is a Latin phrase meaning “thus always to tyrants.” It is sometimes mistranslated as “death to tyrants” or “down with the tyrant.” It is most known as the official motto of the Commonwealth of Virginia and for its usage during the assassinations of Julius Caesar and Abraham Lincoln.

        • JC

          And one more just for fun:

          “Si vis pacem, para bellum”
          is a Latin adage translated as, “If you wish for peace, prepare for war”

          • Denniso

            Glad to see that you guys are worldly and appreciate diversity enough to learn a foreign language.

  • J.M.R.

    WE JUST HAVE BEEN SHOWN WHAT A WANNA BE DEMO IS. MURKOWSKI [COW] SHE JUST PROVED SHE IS NO CONSERVATE. ONE COW OF A LOSER.SHE IS BOUND AND DETERMINED TO PUT A DEMO IN OFFICE. HOPE HERE IN 2010 WE CAN START SAVING OUR GREAT COUNTRY FROM THE D.C. SCUM

    • http://none Alex

      Bless her for running—hopefully she will help derail the Teabagger who beat her for the nomination.

      • HorendoRevolver

        yeah alex, we wouldnt want one of those horrible “constitution following, tax paying, America Loving Founding Father Following, Law abiding ” idiots to win now would ya ???? Alex, yer an idiot…or a fool….get a clue…..maybe you could find a clue at Walmart….Oh, wait, ya prolly dont like Walmart either……I hope you get “teabagged” next time ya fall asleep with yer mouth open, at one of yer crack parties……dumbass……IMHO…

        • slickporsche

          Right on and good post!

          • BrianH

            I can’t believe, correction, Im still flabbergased there are still people that blind and ignorant

        • Bob

          Alex you are funny. You’ll change your tune in a couple years as you are digging through a dumpster for food.

        • Bonnie

          You sir, are the epitomy of the ‘idiot wing’ of the Tea Party. Too bad, it could have been a GREAT movement, but people like you will surely bring it down. The flag waving, “America, love it or leave it,” moron. Nobody can criticize America’s foreign policy without being labeled ‘unpatriotic’ by this group. Why don’t you try reading a book?

          • a progressive nightmare

            because it would be hard to find one that hasn’t been doctored by the dumb marxist progressives. I don’t need to read a book, I have lived through this progressive nightmare for over 5 decades!

          • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

            You have a choice Bonnie, in regard to your country.

            See the cup as half empty, like the Obama’s do, or half full.

            Sure, we can always improve, but a positive attitude toward your country will get you farther in the end.

            Picture her as one of your children, and decide how many of your moments together you will use to disparage her.

          • vicki

            We did Bonnie dear. Read any book on history that was printed before 1910. Then compare that history to what is printed today. The differences (for the time periods 1700′s to 1900s) is most revealing.

        • victoria b

          What He said x 10

      • CJM

        Yep, Alex, bless her for running–she won’t see the edge of the cliff til she leaps over it. If Murkowski thought she may be able to run for re-election in the future her recent act simply is one of political suicide. What a jerk she is!!!!!!!!!!

        • Dan Burke

          She isn’t just “killing” her own political future. How many of these incumbents or Republican chosen are putting up a fight even after they legitimately lost? No, she isn’t just “killing” her political future. If the elites in the Republican Party were truly wise, they would disown her and tell her to be quiet because it ruining things for all of them. If she and her ilk don’t shut up soon, they will ensure that the Tea Party really does take over the Republican Party. Personally, I am all for her keeping in the game because the harder they struggle against the change, the more apparent and plain it is that they are addicted to the power and are not true representatives. Showing themselves as lacking in moral character.

          • vicki

            We have known that neither the Demopublian nor the Republicrat politicians represent us from the moment we knew that they do not bother to read the bills they pass on us.

            http://www.downsizedc.org/etp/campaigns/27

            Lets add reading to the job skills required to be a politician.

          • dan az

            viki
            first they would have to learn to read second then they would have to work for the money we pay them!

        • Christin

          Arlen Spector … Sore Loser #1
          Charlie Crist … Sore Loser #2
          Lisa Murkowski… Sore Loser #3

          You can change your name from tiger to leopard, but you are still an UNWANTED a sore loser.

          I’m sure I left out some more “ship jumpers” just-to-win politicians.

          • http://none Alex

            CORRECTION: Joe Lieberman—sore loser number one

          • Christin

            Alex,
            Joe Lieberman turned Independant to beat out whom?
            It was quite a while back.

          • Viktor Leben

            Ned Lamont.

        • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

          The silver lining may be that when she loses…

          more RINO’s will get the message that switching parties, write-in’s, and other tricks won’t work with Americans!

          And we want them to have learned that lesson well by 2012.

          • a progressive nightmare

            let’s do it! I’m ready! VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • PatriotSara

        Hey Alex, how do you tell ‘up from down’ and ‘right from wrong,’ as you go about your day? Sorry to tell you, bub, but you’ve got things backwards! Wake up and try and apply some “reason” to things!

      • sonny

        People: UNFORTUNATELY, we have a LOT of “alexs” in this country.
        Do you ppl realize that almost 50% of “the people” still support
        the dems (and RINOS). These “braindead” people are destroying this country. They are just so many mindless sheep swallowing the liberal
        propaganda, HOOK, LINE, AND SINKER.

        • Christin

          sonny,

          You are right. So many Blinders.

          You can change things if you go out and win one person at a time by planting seeds, sharing info and sending e-mails to them so that you are backing up what you are saying with facts or some other sources.

          Maybe they will begin to question and wake up.

          If it doesn’t work repeat the first paragraph, but share Jesus and the blinders will melt away when they accept Christ! With full vision, maybe the political blinders will come off, too and “whalla” a convert for Christ and Constitutional Conservativism!!

          Got to do more than complain… be part of the solution…change lives and minds!!!

          Good Luck.

      • Ken

        Alex, you are ignorant, Murkowski is out for herself. She is counting on sheeple like yourself to keep her in office. So does not care if she spends the country into oblivion as LONG as SHE stays in office. What does it matter if the next generation has 20 trillion of debt hanging over there heads and unemployment is 30%, she is in OFFICE to kiss the ass of socialists. It is all about HER, wake you DUMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Elmo Lovett, Alaska

          lisa is just like her old sorry papa.

        • http://none Alex

          As one who does not live in Alaska, I cannot vote for Murkowski. I merely applaud the fact that she will fight to keep that moron Miller from taking office. Hopefully, her running will cost Miller the way votes for Ralph Nader put the clown Bush in office, leading to the deaths of thousands of our mercenaries in Iraq.

          • Richard Pawley

            Alex, even Castro is admiting that socialism hasn’t worked in Cuba and he ran the place for nearly 50 years! Why do you think it will work in the USA? It hasn’t worked anywhere. Millions always die while the elitists who want to run everything try their best to convince the sheeple that they know what is best. This happened in Germany (Hitler), Russia (Lenin and Stalin), China (Mao), Cuba (Castro) and others. The anti-law, anti-freedom, anti-God forces of Marxism are not the answer to personal responsiblitiy and morality. It never works except for the controllers at the top and even that is only temporary. Freedom is built into the human spirit and those who would trade it for bread, don’t deserve either freedom or the bread (to paraphrase one of our founding fathers).

          • meteorlady

            Freedom of human spirit is something he knows nothing about. He is secure with his Democrats in power because he knows that he has a safety net if he fails, even if it’s his own fault. He’s secure that all the money we work to make will get redistributed to others and he will get some too.

      • JC

        Are you suggesting she lost to a homosexual?

        Hmm Didn’t the tea party endorse someone there also? ;)

    • http://yahoo.com Ed California

      Your exactly right to the people that have been paying attention thats exactly what we have in Washington! Every one of them is above the law except for a few like Michele Bachmann. I feel Michele could bring this country back if she were elected President. She is righteous and sound on pricipal calm and collected. These people evil as they are took all of the money. Banks have little money to lend so how can there be growth? This is a planned attack on America. They are injecting uncertainty with these ballots and debts. Their relentless outrageous bills trying to impose their taxes is stiffeling the economy purposefully! Prepare!!! No “Gang”, tells you when there going to take you over.

    • marvin

      J.M.R. she even had a demicrat congress man stump for her great conseritive repubican we had a rino state senator smith that stumped for a bluedog dem for congress he won she is now no longer a repub she is running as a ind with a 1 in 10 chance like crist in fl

    • ken123

      MURKOWSKI Just hasn’t figured what happened to her yet. Her elites attitude is that she deserves to be in the Senate and she’s not going to let a little thing like a election deny her of her power. Over the next few years we’ll see more of these elites go by the way side, especially in Texas.

  • Warrior

    Like I said last week, the masks have come off. Take out as many progressives as possible Nov 2.

    • a progressive nightmare

      Warrior, Well said, maybe this November will be the beginning of the end of a very long “Progressive Nightmare”. Clean house!

      • http://libertymind.wordpress.com Patriot1776

        This will be a good stsrt to the new American revolution. But it wiil not be enough. The State governments MUST be filled with State rights members who will stand up to the federal government! This will begin the end for the empire!

        • Chuck

          Your so right Patriot1776, it sarted with the states ,it can end with the states.

          • Cameron

            It’s too bad we can’t take a State & put all the Liberals in it so they can run things into the ground while the rest of Free America practices Conservatism & Capitalism. Problem: WHICH State do we sacrifice? Maybe we could find an island somewhere that’s uninhabited &. no, wait. Why ruin a pristine environment by spoiling it w/Liberals? Maybe they’ll all grow up & become Conservative or eventually die out.

          • eddie47d

            How about sending all the RINO’s to an island.They can only come back if they admit their wrong doings. We’ll make it simple like a 10 step rehabilatation program. They supported torture so that will be allowed. The floggings will continue until you can once again become a staunch conservative. The Tea Party will be the whip masters and the RINO’s will sin no more.

          • dan az

            cameron
            How about a country instead? Say Delaware there isnt anything worth keeping coming from there!

          • http://libertymind.wordpress.com Patriot1776

            Cameron, We can it’s called secession! :)

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Cameron, we did take a state and put all the liberals in it. Its called California. And they saw to it to build the biggest state deficit in the history of mankind. They saw to it to continually elect the likes of Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, then selected The Terminator their governor, just because they had heard of his name. Look at the mess not only have they made, but the size of the mess and what it is going to take to clean it up? English is now the second language of California, and you go to Southern California you dont hear english spoken much at all. It is truly a sad state of affairs, and if anyone is interested in seeing what the democrats vision of America is, go live in Southern Cal for awhile. It is a scary, scary thing.

  • http://boblivingston james bush

    Lets get back to a republic and throw out any incumbant that was part of this mess

    • Richard Pawley

      That’s what the Tea Party Republicans are trying to do. If they are rejected by the “establishment Republicans” then by the next election in 2012 the Tea Party may well become a third party and then there may really be hell to pay. The establishment Republicans need to get behind the Tea Party or they will be the losers. Take Delaware, you have an in-experienced but willing to learn Tea Party Republican woman opposing a Marxist-Progressive. I’d take a sincere heart over an avowed communist or progressive any day. Does Delaware really want more of the same. Their RINO Republican is history and now they have a real choice: More of the same until we collapse as a nation or a return to a pay-as-you-go mentality. We can’t just keep printing money and pretending that it is real. Even in Delaware they must know that.

      • vicki

        The Republican party needs to remember where and why they came into existence. They were not one of the first political parties and they could find themselves joining the party THEY replaced.

        http://www.ushistory.org/gop/origins.htm

      • meteorlady

        “become the third party”? I really thought there were at least 15 other viable parties in existence. Just that the press wants to keep them out of the fry because it’s not politically advantageous to let them play the game.

        Vote Ron Paul for President!

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  • hflashman

    Wow…Chip really mustn need to sell more gold to pay the bills. though I will gve him credit, he went after almost everyone … leaving a few ‘darlings” unmentioned…even though they also are the problem, not the solution.

    Reality is, in today’s political environment, the Big 6 (Steel, Bank, Insurance, Energy, Military, Ag) control what is going to go through and what will be effectively watered down and made toothless. Healthcare is one, energy another, banking the third, the recent fight to continue tax relief for all but the wealthy.

    Whatever policy is mentioned to be changed…we have the party of “No” challenging the plicy, offering no new solutions, they espouse support for the past policies which created the problem, and then they lie and feed their robotic followers emotional points calculated to feed discontent encouraging oppostion…not working to find a solution.

    For instance…the recent attempts to create a program allowing small business access to credit lines, loans and grants to grow and innovate. Nice program, targeted at the small business sector which is the bedrock of job creation, etc etc. It was attacked…with every lie and misleading statement available. Fact is…it was killed by the GOP because it wasn’t extended to S corporations controlled by Big Business..which in effect would have diluted the funds and program effectiveness to nearly zero as the wealthy and powerful entrenched themselves even more.

    We have a SCOTUS ruling which gives full monetary leeway for corporations to influence every election preventing any opposition to their interests to be elected.

    And where did it begin? The seeds were planted as Eisenhower warned…but the real attacks came in 1981 and continued culiminating in the full power grab under Bush/Cheney. Social caste systems became entrenched, wealth for all but the elite shrank (the Super rich became richer…even today that is the only sector untouched by the Recession), power became corrupting.

    And the robotic oppose anything and everything by this administration because somehow, in a warped sense of realiity, they believe any attempts to invade and decrease the power and wealth of the entrenched elite is bad. Leaving the only assumption to be made is that they are comfortable with being told what to do, what to think, what to say.

    Don’t blame Obama and the Dems for putting us here where we are at today…rather look in the mirror. For the cause is you. Offer solutions..realistic solutions, not some hyperbole of cut taxes, cut government etc. Those are nice emotional “get elected” lines. But unrealistic unless you state what it is exactly. I heard Rand paul say he would cut taxes and governnent. When asked what specifically he would target? No answer. A nice, spam answer of “I’ll tell you after the election when I have time to study it”.

    O’Donnell? What an idiot. Same as Palin. They have no solution. Ask them for specific solutions…they won’t have any…because they know if they say anything specific it’s gonna hurt. Obama at least is trying. That’s more than anyone else can say.

    • mike murfield

      please pull your head out of the sand and get back to reality

    • EltonJ

      hflashman,

      I hope you include yourself in that blame. If you are going to blame the American people, then you *must* be included. If you exclude yourself, you are apart of the problem, not apart of the solution.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Elton, You can forget flash taking any responsibility for anything nor any of his/her counterparts on this blog or any progressives currently in office. Typical progressive response, Bush did it, Bush mean, Bush created all this debt, the GOP is the party of NO. etc etc etc.

        Bottom line, the progressives in both parties are counting on the gross spewing of garbage to keep the status quo instead of dealing with the facts. This has been going on for decades and it is time to end this progressive “Touchy-Feely” village daycare mentality, lest we are perish, as a result of their lazy marxist stupidity.

        Bottom line, it’s like trying to deal with two year olds, caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

    • http://PLD TomD

      Yeah Hitler,Stalin they tried also

    • Mike Austin,TX

      Reach down and back and grasp your ears firmly. Pull down hard until you hear a pop. They wipe your eyes so you may see reality.

      • slickporsche

        Nah! He would not want to do that! He is busy licking his favorite turd. I think it might look like OBAMA. YES htrashman you are real piece work and definitly part of the problem,plus all the others like you.

      • Stewart

        Be careful though, if you pull to fast the suction created might just pop your eye balls out….Oh my God, I’ve just had an apiphany….maybe that’s why they’re so blind!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Its called Cranalanalitus, and 9 out of 10 democrats suffer from it.

    • CJM

      hflashman: Exactly WHAT is Obama trying to do? Obviously, you have missed the point of all his rhetorical messages, which all boil down to one thing: Destroy America, the Nation he utterly hates because America does not adhere to the collective sense of the communistic/marxist/socialistic mentality that he was bred into. Mom was an atheist who hated America and instilled those values into her son while he was growing up; she hated America enough to renounce her citizenship in order to marry a Kenyan who quickly abandoned her and his son. Well, guess what: We INDIVIDUALISTIC AMERICANS will have nothing to do with the “dreams” of Obama and his father; since Obama sincerely loves the middle east, he should simply pack his baggage and his family and move there permanently. And if we do prove he is, in fact, an illegal alien, WE THE PEOPLE will DEMAND his DEPORTATION TO KENYA (or whatever other country he names) AFTER HE HAS SERVED TIME IN OUR PRISON SYSTEM for the obvious crimes he has committed while in office.

      • Conservatives United

        DON’T THEY EXECUTE THOSE WHO COMMIT TREASON??????

        • Pooh in Shock

          Well I will have to say (NO) they don’t shoot them. Both Bush and Chaney flew out of Washingto DC like Nixon! You never have a missle launcher when you need two or three! Oh but you can dream of a wonderful country cleaned of pond scum!

      • Cameron

        CJM, Mr. Obama’s (I refuse to address him as “President”) mammy was a piece of white trash (to call her a slut would be a compliment) who got knocked up by a N—– THREE MONTHS before she married the bastard. He is a product of his upbringing & childhood associates, who include Marxists, Communists, racists, Muslims, & assorted other low-lifes. Our government is perfect for God-fearing people & wholly unsuited for any other, which means Mr. Obama is unsuitable to be President.

    • s c

      Here’s another chance for you to increase your ‘intelligence’ in one day, h. Conservatives DO NOT blame your White House “God” for all of America’s ills. However, we rightfully blame Herr Obummer for “volunteering” and then making matters WORSE. Get that through your head, chum.
      How can you be so dumbed-down that you can (or won’t) understand that? Assuming that you can read and think independently (I wish), it is beyond amazing that you can be so shallow and lame that you can’t move past what seems like programming.
      Once again, you seem to prefer acting like a pre-programmed parrot. Once again, you bring NOTHING to the discussion table. Once again, you prove that Darwin was wrong. Once again, you prove that some people can devolve (and dare to think that you’re ‘better’ than you were yesterday).

      • slickporsche

        Listen asswipe there is no reason to bring discussion to the table with liberals. We the people do not want anymore of their bullshit or yours. I am very happy that the republicans are not cooperating with this socialist regime. It would solve nothing.We the people want the socialist Democrats gone. The Republican party will get things back to normal as it can be under them, and then we the people will become the Republican party and not the career politicians. Both parties are history as we know them today. We have no need for the Democratic party, because this is not a democracy, It is a republic and we want it under our control.

        • Craig

          This is such a complete crock. The problem with the world today is the crooked big business special interest, their delivery men, the soulless lobbyist and their whores, the politicians who in turn manipulate our laws to make the systematic rape of the average person in the USA and the rest of the world legal. We need to make special interest lobbying illegal. Then we need to tax any company that off shores jobs that can be done by Americans, make it a crime for any illegal aliens to work or to hire an illegal alien. Use the prison system to rebuild the infrastructure. This is just a beginning but big business will never allow it because this does not serve their interest. It serves the American peoples interest. Isn’t that what Government is meant to do? We need government more than ever now. Turning the Government back over to the republicans now is like getting the wolf to guard the hen house. We must wake up now and turn a deaf ear to the bull propaganda being dished out by the whores of big business.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            No, actually, the whole problem is this. All the political offices, legal offices and courts are run by lawyers. That my friend, is the problem. They all have a license to steal, and steal they do. They plunder the government, they plunder state and local and federal funds in the court rooms where they have prostituted the law to the point that they collect big in all cases, on both sides, prosecution and defense. They have no interest in the just cause being served, just in collecting more and more money. Then in the political field, they all clamor in line to fill their pockets, at once again, the expense of the states, local government and the tax payers, who are the ones that pay for it all. They seek to line their pockets with silver and gold, and thats what it has become. Money is their god, and they have no room for God. They boot Him out of everywhere, in their pursuit of the all-mighty dollar. Lawyers are what is wrong, plain and simple. They have bought and sold this country like a prostitute, and to me, they are the lowest life form on this earth.

      • dan az

        hey sc
        do you know if people like flash get paid for the amount of replies they get?

    • Brad

      HFlashman,

      That’s right you are just a flash in the pan, puff and it’s all over, you are spouting your personal opinion and you bring nothing to the table. Flash you are taking the Liberal/Progressive propaganda material to the extreme, do some real research, oh that’s right I forgot, you are brain dead, you take orders from higher up because you have forgotten how to think for yourself.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        flashpan only knows what his telestrator tells him, kind of like his fearless leader. Wankers.

    • Vern Nay

      Your a real idiot edoyal7,Obama and all the encumbent career politicians in wash should be hung for high treason. Its strictly the politicians over the last 100 years that have put America where its at today. Sure the people are quilty of not revolting against the corrupt govt. before now but then that takes some doing. I think the people have been pushed far enough now to start pushing back. You keep your faith in obama, hes an illegal alien to begin with, maby you can swing next to him on the gallows you fool..

      • slickporsche

        AHHH hahahahahha! AHHH hahahahahha LMAO LMAO

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      hflashman…
      You do realize that almost everyone in Washington falls into that ‘wealthy’ catergory?
      You even criticize an article that goes after both parties…. You always seem to have a long post that says nothing. November is coming. And the ‘hope and change’ we wanted is coming with it. Barry never had to explain his hope and change mantra. This time the Tea Party people and the true right wing conservatives know what it means and we are ready to support it. Our version, that is.

    • sonny

      HFLASHMAN: You are so full of s*** it isn’t even funny. Bush has been gone for almost two years and besides Bush had a dem congress during his last two years. That means almost 4 years of dem control.
      If you want socialism so bad, MOVE TO CUBA. Get the hell out of this country. Castro will shoot your dumbass.

      • slickporsche

        Actually Sonny, we will probably need to do that for Castro.Besides why let Castro have all the fun, and target practice.

    • Conservatives United

      “it was killed by the GOP because it wasn’t extended to S corporations controlled by Big Business..which in effect would have diluted the funds and program effectiveness to nearly zero as the wealthy and powerful entrenched themselves even more.”

      Get your facts straight before you open your mouth. Most S-CORPORATIONS like our business (S Corp), are small businesses. Most large corporations are C-CORPS. And not that it matters to you, I have been in business for over 35 years, and have learned much about what goes on in busines, what works and does not work. One thing is when GOVERNEMNT IS CONTROLLING THINGS, IT DOES NOT WORK. If you open your ears, and listen to almost all small business owners today, they state the number one thing of why they either are not or cannot expand their business, is the massive overreach and uncertianty of what the BLOATED FEDERAl GOVERNMENT IS DOING. Their common theme is for the Federal Government TO GET OUT OF THE WAY, SO THAT THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY DO BEST, CREATE JOBS AND IMPROVE THEY ECONOMY.

      As to your comment about the small business loans etc, GET THIS STRAIGHT…..IT IS STILL CONTROLED, YES CONTROLLED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NOT THE PRIVATE SECTOR!!!!!!!!

      • Cameron

        Sounds like you know something I learned many years ago: If you REALLY want to F*(& something up, get the government involved. Also, I’ll paraphrase another truism: There’s a right way, a wrong way, and there’s the government’s way, & guess which one we’re gonna do!

    • Conservatives United

      hflashman, I do believe that you were endoctrinated by the Liberal governemnt schools, listened the far left lame stream media too much and too long, and thus have no idea of what really goes on in this country.

    • Hop-a-long

      OH!! And “Hope and Change” were clear explanations of what you are going to do. How about Pelosi saying “we will find out what is in the bill after we pass it.” You don’t look at the big picture and speak out of both sides of your mouth like all liberals I know.

    • Craig

      The chocolate Marxist says he is trying, but doing things that do nothing of what he says they will do is not trying.

      • Average Joe

        He’s trying alright…very trying!

    • Thomas G Kroger

      Hflashman and Alex are both idiots, and doesn’t understand money and banking, which Livingston correctly identifies as the source of the problems we are experiencing today. A fiat currency is predicated on the lie that you can get something for nothing, that you can issue a currency consisting only of fancy printed notes, backed by nothing whatsoever, and that the good character of politicians will guarantee that those in charge will never print too many of them. If you believe that, as Hflashman and Alex clearly do, I also have a bridge I’d be interested in showing to them. And why not? Both of them were apparently stupid enough to imagine that being a “community organizer” was somehow a qualification for the Presidency.

    • Susan

      Obama is following and doing “THE DREAMS OF HIS FATHER”!

      • Susan

        From one Susan to another, that means Stupid is as stupid does! Must have been a dream to wipe out and destroy America. Sorry but he is also a Muslim, and what do Muslim’s want? To destroy western civilization and take over, convert or kill.

    • a progressive nightmare

      flash, is you nose flat because you continue to go through life looking in a rear view mirror trying to place blame on others for all our country’s ills. Kinda sounds OBLAMANIC, now doesn’t it. All of you, including Obama, act like children. It’s not my fault! I didn’t do it! It was Bush#1, Bush#2, Regan, etc etc etc that created all this debt so we just need to ramp that up by a factor of 10, so we can SPEND our way out of debt!… Childish foolishness is an understatement.

      You continue to spew your progressive garbage but have so little common sense that you fail to recongnize your own ignorance or that you continue to prove our point.

      We all clearly understand, at this point, why our country is bankrupt and what it will take to get our Nation back to it’s founding. You seem to “assume”(a typical progressive mindset) that the folks commenting on this blog are all staunch republicans? Again, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see what you progressives have done and continue to do to our republic. Notice I did not say democrat or republican progessives, just plain ole DUMB progressives. None of which could balance a personal checking account much less lead our country out of this progressive nightmare.

      The problem has been and continues to be very simple,

      “IT’s the SPENDING – STUPID!”

      I would think that we all clearly understand this and both parties have participated in spending our grandchildren into economic slavery. In case you haven’t figured this out yet, November is about removing as many progressives as possible and restoring constitutional government, nothing more and nothing less.

      Heck, a child could see it.

      • eddie47d

        Seven years after Clinton left office the Republicans couldn’t let it go. You have 5 more years of bringing up Bush. LOL

        • a progressive nightmare

          Eddie47d, I have to give you that one, that’s pretty darn funny!

    • marvin

      hflashman ,flash went to the dr and said doc i can not remimber anything i think i am getting dumber ever day,so the doc said here try this bottle of pills for a couple weeks,at end of two weeks flash went back to doc and said no help, so doc gave him some more pill for two weeks, but two days later old flash was back, at doc office, doc said what wrong,flash said doc them pills you gave me smell and taste like sh-t ,doc said see your getting smarter allready

    • Cameron

      You’re another idiot who can be given a huge enema after dying & get buried in a matchbox. ANYBODY who believes Mr. Obama is God’s gift to America is a F^(*!&# SOCIALIST out to destroy America while THEY live it up high on the hog from everybody else’s labor. Cutting taxes DOES increase revenue (it’s a proven fact) but damned near EVERY politician shrinks from cutting spending because they’re too interested in protecting their six o’clock & their seat at the public trough. Elect some TRUE Patriots & watch what happens!

    • Viktor Leben

      Hflashman,

      I’m what you call a “dull pencil” so maybe you can enlighten me on a point I’m ignorant about.

      You have some really good thought provoking comments ! But what I don’t understand is what’s in it for you ? Do you have some type of goal ? I think (sometimes) that all these here conservatives just want to be left alone by Big Brother. What’s in it for you though ? You sure don’t like Reagan !!

      Ask yourself, “What’s in it for me ?”

    • LocalYokel

      International bankers have had full control of credit here through FED monopoly established in 1913 following the 1907 Banker’s Panic by another sucker democrat but only with the name giving it the appearance of being government controlled. Banks maintain a 7 to 5 majority of the FED board by appointment.
      If you can’t see that the one that you defend is trying to monopolize all other business under true government control then you should study the actions of Sen. Nelson Aldrich in 1908 leading up to the final legislation and his milking of the cow along the way.
      Your hero didn’t have the family backing as did Aldrich and was forced to bring along “friends of the family” in the absence thereof. Their “green horn” status has created an overload that democratic party damage control can not hide even with all the media whitewash. It’s evidenced by rats leaving the sinking ship. Perhaps you can detect the same self serving strategy and any similarity between Aldrich and members of either house to be cast as sacrificial goats for the coming occasion.

    • meteorlady

      As a small business owner the program you speak of is not for me. I am an S-Corporation and employ only 24 employees. It’s advantageous to me to be this as it protects my personal life from my business life. I even was an S-Corporation before I started my business, used it to purchase a motorhome in Montana so I didn’t have to pay sales tax on it.

      As for the program – there isn’t any money being released by the banks right now. So…. if hey pass the program it will just be another taxpayer funded social experiment. No thanks, I’ll just make it or not on my own.

  • Clifton Lee West

    Mr. Livingston,

    Excellent article, thank you. Unfortunately, the individuals who should be reading and responding to it are the very ones all this is about. Rather than work on our economic and social problems, it would appear that our politicians would rather spend most of their time running for re-election. It almost makes one wonder if we are electing representatives or want-to-be rock stars. In 2007 and 2008, Obama was rarely in the Senate representing Illinois, and, since his election, has spent most of his time campaigning and pushing his special interests, fulfilling campaign promises in spite of growing national economic and social problems, much of which has been caused by his own Liberal masters calling the shots. With Obama, our nation did not get a President, it got a Liberal machine, complete with its own press corps masquerading as our main stream media, yeah right!

    Clifton Lee West

  • Jim Morley

    Do you have the vaguest idea of what a Eurosocialist Healthcare Model is? I doubt it. However the French for example live longer, and, supposedlt, are happier than Americans. I have no idea what Obarma plane, but let me assure you the French system works – of course part of that could be because they are not trying to ‘colonise’ half the World with the American idea of ‘democracy’

    • Shibamom

      Just remember that our Western diet of processed foods doesn’t help either. Most of America is fat and getting fatter at an earlier age. Most Europeans don’t eat as much processed foods as Americans do and just that alone allows them to live much longer. It isn’t always about the healthcare one has access to. We each have a personal responsibility to make better food choices for ourselves as well as our children. If you make seriously healthier choices about what goes in your mouth, the less likely you are to have nasty health problems that drive you to go to the doctor. Since we’ve had this Obamacare shoved down our throats, then it should become our absolute mission to reject this socialist healthcare by taking better care of ourselves starting now!! Then we won’t need his stinking healthcare!

      • Conservatives United

        Also a big part of problem is that Big Pharma with the help of the puppet FDA, is pushing drugs and pill at the population from birth. A few years back a rep of one of the drug companies stated that ALL PEOPLE (Not just sick people) over the age of 60 should be taking 3-5 or more pills a day. I have found that the sickest people of all ages are the ones taking all these drugs, and the drugs are what are making them sick. The American population has been brainwashed into thinking that the answer for everything is to pop another pill. I know what I am talking about on this issue from personal experience, back when I was 30 years old, and listened to a LEGALIZED PILL PUSHER DOCTOR. He had me on up to 11 pills a day for very mild hypertension. They did not lower my blood presure, but made it go higher, and created so many side effects that I could not count. His answer each time I told him about the side effects, was to add more pills and make it worse. Finally I got some books (This was back in the mid 70′s before the internet), and learned what was going on. I got rid of ALL the drugs, after I went back to my old Doc, and he threw all the bottles I took in, in the waste basket, and stated that I did not need any of them. That was 35 years ago. I have fought that problem with doctors, and when they start pushing pill, I AM GONE.

        • Cameron

          EVERY drug has side effects, some good, some bad, it’s determining which ones you can live with & which ones you can’t live w/o that matters. What kills me is commercials like the ones for ED. “If you experience an erection lasting more than FOUR HOURS see your doctor. Me? I’d head for the nearest cat house & charge THEM! And if you start to go blind, grow hair on your palms, or experience back problems stop taking this drug immediately! Sometimes the commercials are more entertaining than the TV programs themselves!

      • LocalYokel

        Unless you DIY getting unpolluted nutrition gets harder by the day with unavoidable shortage on the horizon. Never the less hospital / prescription cause of death statistics will convince anyone that prevention by any and all means is the preferable path.

    • TIME

      Jim,
      A quick question have you ever lived in France?

      I have so I can say without question the French are not a happy people at all.
      Oh and just for the record a very angry people they are.
      By the way they also are a people who outright hate many other races and cultures, that just for the record is anyone whos “not French” just so you better understand who that may be.
      My last name is French a long story, I can also speak French.
      So I was able to get along with very few problems. But my American Passport made me the focal point of a lot of hate!

      Strange for a people who we the Americans gave them back their freedom in June – August 1944 with thousands of Americans spilling their blood for them.

      • Cameron

        EVERY condemned nation that we have saved by pulling their fat out of the fire has wound up hating us. I’m seriously for pulling our troops out of France, Germany, etc., & letting these ungrateful jerks protect their own soil for a change. The only trouble is the very real possibility of another World War in Europe because the lily-livered, limp-wristed, panty-waisted, nincompoops in power are too scared to stand up to tyranny & will come crawling to America to once again sacrifice our sons & daughters to save their bacon so they can continue to hate us.

    • CJM

      JMorley: The French Euro system doesn’t work and never has worked! Why do you think that the elitists in Europe and the Middle East rush to the UNITED STATES for their medical care, particularly when the illness is potentially terminal? Because we do have the most advanced and the best available worldwide. The common citizen in Europe suffers early deaths, poor medical care, and falls victims rather quickly to epidemics like influenza because of the lack of medical research and preventive care. The elitists could care less about the common citizen. Furthermore, why do you think Obama and company made sure that they would have only the best while the rest of us are saddled with the mediocricy of the EuroSystem? If the Euro system is your cup of tea then live where it is available, but don’t whine when you cannot get the necessary medicines, operations, or general care to keep you healthy.

    • slickporsche

      That is all because of the Socialist Democrats. Remember, we are and were designed to be a republic and not a Democracy.

    • Cameron

      Then move your ass to France! & take as many freeloading, lazy-assed, bums w/you as you can. That’ll do more to help America than anything you’ll EVER write, & thank you very much, just don’t let the door hit you on the rear as you leave.

      • Wayne

        Cameron, I agree with you. If the liberals, NObama lovers, Socialist and Communist don’t like our great country why don’t they just pack up and get their rear ins out of this country. I never can figure out why they wanta to stay in a country they don’t like. Why is it that all the Mexican Illegals want to come to this country? We know why because we had the best country, or did have before NObama came on the scene, in the world. I am sure if these people I described above would leave, it wouldn’t be a year until they would be crying to come back. We need to find a place to put them where they cannot come back.

  • Angel Wannabe

    I’m Still stocking up, I’m making tallow candles at the moment.__ I’d rather be ready for and impending storm and not need the extra provision, than to have a storm hit, and be ill prepared and left with nothing!_-I guess we could be like the liberal sheep and, hope our Government’s gonna take care of us____Nah!–”Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!!!__ Indeed the elite are losing control of the message. They didn’t expect the pushback of the American people. There is enopugh of us old farts still around, to remember what it was like to be free, thankfully, more and more are climbing aboard the ship of Freedom!.

    • Conservatives United

      Maybe the best thing is that the Goverment Eletist and the Lame Stream Media and all of their supporters, DO NOT A HAVE A CLUE, as to what that REAL MOOD, and how the CONTROLED ANGER of the American People, has tranlated into action that will take down their COZY LITTLE WORLD, before they ever realize what hit them. They think they are INVINCEABLE, but so did the elete of Rome. There are plenty of old Coots around that remember what real freedom was like. We must educate the younger crowd, that have been brainwashed by the LIBERAL SCHOOLS for the last 40 years, and have listened the propaganda of the LAME STREAM MEDIA, and have been directed and engaged more in Hollywod, Sports, and other entertainment as the diversion that the eletist wanted, so as to do they damage they have done without anyone noticing.

  • Doug

    I truly believe that most Americans have come to realize that they are no longer associated with a party right now…they have shown in Delaware and elsewhere…that when they leave the house to Vote they leave their party affiliation at the doorstep…and vote to protect America from anymore abuse. All people have seen what is going on and are now trying to head it off before it goes any further. The general media claim one party or another will win the November election, but I believe they don’t understand that it is the Americans that are going to Win the next election…if their must be two party’s then it will be We The People of America, and Washington turncoats! God Bliss America and it’s American People!

    • Shibamom

      I agree with you Doug! I just sent in my “change of party affiliation” paperwork last week. After years of being a registered democrat, I’ve asked to become unaffiliated. I wanna vote for who I think will bring back the America I used to know. Not these elitist fakers we have now. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

      • Wayne

        Shibamom, I am glad you saw the light and want to change. I am a registered Republican. I vote Republican the biggest majority of the time, but I try to look at the candidate and see if he/she is worthy of my vote before I vote for them. We have bad people on both sides of the isle. I only want to vote for honest, straight shooting people that will do the best for the entire country, just not their district. I have never trusted NObama from the very moment I started watching him and learning a few things about him. He is an egotistical, self serving Muslim that I do not trust. Now some of you folks will say that he is not a Muslim. Well I have personally heard him say he was two different time during interviews on ABC T.V.

    • Conservatives United

      I also agree. I gave up being a Republican, back in the late 1990′s, because that party no longer represented my CONSERVATIVE VIEWS. I now am a CONSERVATIVE AND AN AMERICAN. I have stated for 2 years now that the Republican party either must become A Conservative Party, or die. As for the Dems, that party either needs to reform or die. If you rememeber history, the Whig party became irrelavent, and died. The same needs to happen to both of these parties today, since they have become irrelavent, to the people.

  • David

    That’s right we do not identify with R&D anymore. Once we cleanse the system of worthless cowards, shrink the size of government and allow industry to prosper by eliminating EPA’s clutch as well as the rediculaous money grabbing legislative agendas….then the poor can get back to work and fend for their families.

    Once this is done those who do not want to work will be given 2 years to figure it out or get out. We can and will take our country back and create the opportunities that are needed to sustain our way of life.

  • http://ByGeorge By George

    By George
    Wither Goest the Republican Party?

    A new debate has finally bubbled to the surface, actually more like an oil blow-out, on what the future Republican Party should look like: Eastern Liberal (Democrat Lite) or Constitutional Conservative. This argument for the soul of the party started in 2007 when Democrats overthrew the Republican Congress (both houses) and implemented their odious plan for socializing America. All they lacked then was the third leg of their chair, a compliant President and they quickly got that in 2009 with the election of that creature from the Black Lagoon, Barack Hussein Obama (may peace be upon him).

    What brings this issue into focus, of course, is the stunning win by Christine O’Donnell, a virtual nobody, over Mike Castle, an Eastern Liberal Republican elitist, twice Republican Governor of Delaware and I don’t know how many terms in the US House of Representatives! Apparently, now, Mike Castle will be unable to put “Senator” on his resume. I do not forget the several other TEA Party supported candidates who have prevailed around the country over establishment Republicans, but O’Donnell’s story is compelling simply because of the arguments, both for and against her, it has generated.

    Eastern Liberal Republican leaders with a national flair, i.e.: Karl Rove, et. al., were shocked at the outcome, but especially the Mike Castle team, who thought themselves secure in the belief that they would be gainfully employed at least for six more years slopping out of the public trough. In a snit, however, they profess that they will not support the Republican winner, Christine O’Donnell under any circumstances. Even the response from the National Republican Party Chairman, Mike Steel, was deafening in its silence. So, the battleground is set and the first shots have been fired in determining what political philosophy will ultimately prevail for the Republican Party. It could be a blood letting but the outcome will certainly determine the future of America as either a great nation based on its constitutional principles, or another squalid little socialist entitlement state overrun by foreigners and, because of its weakness, soon to be overrun by Islam.

    Into the mix of change is a rethinking of the basic rules that have guided the Republican Party’s candidate selection process, for lo these many years, called the Buckley Rule. For a complete understanding of what is going on, I invite your attention to an article by Jeff Breedlove to be found at wearepolitics.com, dated Sep 10, 2010. Basically, the Buckley rule demanded that all Republican candidates , regardless if they had principles or not, were to be supported voraciously, if they were winnable. Comes now, Rush Limbaugh’s rule, whose argument is just the reverse. Elect and support Conservatives and get rid of the Eastern Liberal Republicans, who have led us into this dark hole. It’s a great read!

    The Congress and Senate no longer need Republicans willing to reach across the aisle to accommodate the Democrat agenda. We need Republicans who will, themselves, set a conservative agenda and, more importantly, Republicans who will work to destroy the socialist mentality that has taken over the old Democrat Party and engulfed our political process, our educational systems and our labor force into a mishmash of expected entitlements.

    Republicans have always stood for less government is the best government, but our Eastern Liberal toady’s took us away from those founding principles. We need to get back, now, not later. November 2nd is fast approaching. Do your duty!

    I, for one, would be happy to volunteer to be commandant of a re-education camp for liberal congressmen and wayward MSM journalists.

    • David

      George there are more corrupt, left over pot smoking, hippee democrats that will go shortly too. So if you better get out of the way or we’ll get you too.

  • Barbra Bronsberg

    It really is time to clean house with all the entrenched polititians.
    Both parties are so corrupt it is time for a change and they better get the picture soon. Karl Rove was an idiot with his nasty remarks becauae Castle lost. He should have lost, he is a Democrat in Republican clothing. what is wrong with you people? If you don’t back the Tea party Republicans we are going to lose. what don’t you get?

    • Librada

      THAT’S RIGHT!

    • a progressive nightmare

      100% agree with that!

  • http://none Alex

    The Rethuglicans have nominated enough laughable Senate candidates as to insure a continued Democratic advantage.

    The thing for the Democrats to do now is to stop playing soft with the neo-conartist Fright Wingers and pass some sensible legislation. The unwillingness of the Democrats to use their numeric advantage cannot continue. President Obama has given much too much thought to appeasing the conservatives and in so doing has become an almost complete washout to the Left. He promised to undo the unconstitutional “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy of our mercenary units and has failed to do so, among other broken promises. Of course, he is much preferable to Bush or any other stinking Rethuglican–he has not thrown any of our young to their deaths in an ill-thought out war against a non-enemy, like Bush, and is attempoting to help all but the most egregiously greedy Amerikans save money on their taxes by returning some sanity to our tax system.

    Oh, and P.S. to all the Fright Wingers who always whine about paying their fair share: it costs money to live in a civilized country, to defend our borders and educate our young. It also costs TONS of money to fight wars of Capital, that have nothing to do with security.

    Wake up, Fright Wing sheeple! There is a real world out there, beyond Wal-mart and McDonald’s, a real world with real people doing real things. You lazy and mostly obese non-thinking Red Staters need to grow up and get on with living a productive and satisfying life—try to be kind and tolerant—you will make the Gods happy!

    • Mike Austin,TX

      You don’t like yourself much do you?

    • Angel Wannabe

      Oh Another Day, Another nickel, huh, Alex?

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Alex… Do you live in the United States? You are so clueless!

    • George McM

      Stop with the cool-aid, Alex. I would normally respond but I don’t correspond with idiots.

      • Conservative at Birth

        As I have stated previously, It would be better to just ignore the likes of Alex and hflashman.

    • Linda Maddox

      Okay you left wing socialist. Pay our fair share, are you kidding me, this is unending! Have you heard, American’s are getting poorer under Obama. When the government is in charge of anything,the people that they say they are helping receive less and the people running the programs receive more. The government doesn’t care about the people, only how much they can steal from us. If the Dems are allowed to continue, we will all be living in caves. My husband and I have spent the last 30 years building a business. With our own money we have helped a lot of people. We don’t need the govt. taking from us and giving it, we do it ourselves. This marxist govt of ours has to be stopped!

      • Wayne

        Linda, I am beginning to think that Hflashman and Alex lives in another country besides in the US. I am not going to respond to either one of them since it would be like talking to a turtle.

    • http://ccomp@rtcol.com Larry

      You are a Fool !!!!!

    • tg7357

      That must be some powerful weed you’re smoking, Alex! ‘Appeasing the Conservatives’? On what planet? Sure wasn’t this one. All Obama has done since he started campaigning was blame Conservatives and Republicans for all the problems his own party ALSO had a hand in creating. Fannie and Freddie? Wall Street? AIG? The wars in Iraq and Afganistan? There are NO CLEAN HANDSIN WASHINGTON. The demolibs, republicrats, liberals and even the independents stuck their hands up and went right along with whatever was going to make them the richest.
      Your logic would be funny, except you and thousands like you actually believe it. Thats 99.9% of why Americans can’t get anything done anymore.

    • alpha-lemming

      WOW!!
      Do you suppose their numerical advantage is why congressional approval is <10%??? If you didn't get all the Marxist-utopian big government crap you wanted I believe it was because of Democrats (Republicans voted in lock-step and Obama-care still passed… with a liberal dose of vote-buying) bailing on the leadership. Nice to see some bi-partisnship…. AGAINST SOCIALISTS!! AND I promise to be just as kind and tolerant…. as you are… DA.

    • Craig

      Alex is clueless.

    • mike murfield

      alex when you stand in front of Christ Jesus He will have the last say, so all of your liberal views will be condemed along with yourself.

      • http://none Alex

        Who?

        • http://naver samurai

          You know, the son of God you moron!

    • Conservatives United

      First you need to get your head, you know that knob on the top of your shoulder, out of you A$$. Then you need to do an assesment of what if anything is in side of it, hopefully (but I do not think so) that there is at least ONE BRAIN CELL occuping the space between you ears, the things that are attached to each side of your head, and used for listening, something that you do not know how to do, or at best only use selectively to listen to LEFT WING SOCIALIST, MARXIST, COMMUNIST, LAME STREAM MEDIA, HOLLYWIERD, AND OTHER SUCH SEWERS.

    • a progressive nightmare

      Mike…EXACTLY! LOL! It could be the progressive drug factor or who knows at this point?

      By the way Alex, are we actually defending our borders? If so, you could have fooled me!

    • harleytech

      THERE IS YOUR PROBLEM, THERE IS BUT ONE GOD NOT GODS.YOU ARE VERY CONFUSED.

    • marvin

      Alex you need a bottle of smart pills from flash you know the ones that flash got from his doc, that after taking them for two days, that smell like sh-t taste like sh-t and you go back to flash and he tells you they are yep yep you guessed it are sh-t you moron you and flash have the iq of a chicken that be zero

      • http://none Alex

        Uhh….did you ever go to school?

    • Viktor Leben

      Damn the gods ! They never made me happy !

    • Cameron

      I’m gonna open an enema clinic next to the funeral parlor that prepares all you Liberal idiots for burial & make a FORTUNE flushing the S&!# out of you so you can be buried in a matchbox!

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      Alex-

      On election day, there is going to be a big rejection of liberal philosophy, putting conservatives in perhaps their strongest position in decades.

      How do you plan to handle it psychologically?

    • LocalYokel

      He forgot to mention just who is paying for his ticket

    • http://naver samurai

      Some sensible legislation? OK, how about starting with the overturning of Osamacare? How about overturning the U.N. Small Arms Treaty? How about starting impeachment procedings against Obama bin Laden? These would be good for starters. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Guy Arnold

    It is easy to see that the world has lost it. Not just the USA but all countries that man has managed for hundreds of years. Man is a total failure and only Jesus Christ is perfect in his management of all of world’s people. He and He only can and will show us Love and give us eternal life for our devotion and love to Him.

    This is the only way to eternal life, through Jesus Christ.

    • Someone

      You are so right, Jesus Christ is the only way to recover our beautiful Nation, Our country has been filled with Satans crims. People must awake up and repent and serve Christ as their master. Serving Christ will put our Nation in order even better than befor. It is talk of pass presidents of their mistakes, but nothing like as it is now. We were far better off befor Obama. Obama is very evil person, he needs to live as he is tearing down us to nothing.
      Then he would change the way of our country to the better life. He well knows what he is doing, but doesn’t care. It all about him self. People in this Nation needs to put aside all differences and start helping each other, and to remember their Savior Jesus Christ is the only way to live. Thank you for your input. It is the Turth! Someone

      • http://none Alex

        If you people paid any attention at all to History you would find that Jesus was most likely a Gay Socialist, who would surely raze the false temples to him you have built.

        • a progressive nightmare

          Sick pup!

        • LocalYokel

          Perhaps you could better serve yourself by studying the history of greed or something that you may affect. Jesus will be back to clean up the mess soon enough and and it won’t be determined by your kind of a rigged election.

  • Richard

    One Vote here for “By George” for Commandant.
    His Re Education Camp for Liberal Congressmen should be on our southern border so these leftist congressional slime may perform boulder placement aerobics along with teams of incarcerated felons. Our Great Wall to block the illegal alien tide would get built, no problem.

  • Librada

    Librada means Liberty in Spanish. I am a hispanic/native American, and I love our Nation. LIBERTY is the outcry of WE, THE PEOPLE. Great words in your article, Bob and very timely. These sentiments have been mine since late 1980′s and I hope that the Tea Party movement continues strongly. I am a Republican, but I welcome these new “maverics.” Hope they can maintain their course, towards less tax, deep cuts in spending, smaller government, and pride restored to our US of America.

    All the “witch hunts” from the Dems and the Republicans, SHOULD reverse on themselves. They must be running scared to dig deep into these new candidates. WE will not be moved. As for the recent dust stirred regarding Christine O’Donnell, give us a break!! She was young, we were there. Who has not had ghosts in their closet? Does anyone know who her opponent Chris Coons is? All I know is he was an executive in a county seat.

  • Doug

    I have no idea where some of these commenting get their ideas?, or most importantly their information?? I won’t get into the inter-workings of corporation structures..not for profit, for profit and various s-corporations and corporations for taxation considerations…but I will state that until Americans stop trying understand something they don’t understand and focus their attention on something they do…like what is happening in our country right before your eyes, we will lose America to fools that care anything about you, unless your in their group, and I’m not talking demo’s or Repub’s! Trust me when I say…none of us have the inside track in Washington elite circles…so when some will say its’ this group or that is just foolishness. People will talk about France like they just got back from experiencing their Government first hand..like lived there! What we need to do is change the here and now of America! Do you actually want someone to tell you what you can do…when you can do it…and how much you can eat or if you should be allowed to eat…one bowl of rice for each person in your household? People..the Direction America is headed (regardless of party)…you will not like! If we don’t get back to our founding principles…then this idea that spreading the wealth will come back and bite you very hard in the A$$, and you can bet on that!!! God Bliss This Very Special Country “America”.

  • Fantastic frank

    I am not yet seeing anything positive coming out of the Tea Parties attempts to change anything.. That may be because I don’t follow everything that goes on in the world..

    Who has the time to do this except for the people who are pushing there own agendas which may not be in my best interests.. Now that I’ve “angered” some people by saying this. let me get to this point which will serve as a example of what I mean.

    I voted in the primary election here in NEW YORK not for Rick Lazio over Carl Paladino but NOT BECAUSE I had the special knowledge before hand which Bob Livingston gave me here.. but on a gut feeling..

    Was it an informed decision.. Hell NO!

    It was just luck that I voted for the “right” candidate.

    So if you take just this one issue.. how informed am I?

    I like to think that I am pretty well rounded on many topics but am I the expert on them?

    No I am not.

    So my point is how can you expect the general electorate to do the “right” thing?

    when I am not able to know everything..

    Hummm?

    FF

    • Librada

      Fantastic Frank: WE get it Now. WE are tired of the past two years, and to be fair it is not only OBAMA, but years of “progressive” moves. Both parties are at fault and that needs to be changed. Vote for those candidates that realize there is too much government controll in OUR lives, too much unemployment, higher prices on everything we need for every day living, too many taxes, too many rich government workers that don’t have a clue to US. It is time for WE, the people.

    • George McM

      Fantastic, I was penning an appropriate response to you as you were pondering “How do I know what is the best thing to do”. We the people must make the change happen. If you believe the general electorate is as dumb as you think they are, it is even more reason to tell them what is happening and why. Walk out your front door and start educating NOW!

    • Warrior

      What absolutely no one in the media understands is that the “Tea Party,” really hundreds of small organizations, is really a “Social Network.” It is as impossible to identify the network as an entity as it would be to identify the Internet as an entity.

      There lies the problem for the media. They cannot aim their spears at a moving object. They cannot demonize and control the conversation. The Tea Party social network works within the decision loop of the media and cannot be subverted. The Media has lost its influence and the war of ideas.

      How amusing it is that the media that has collapsed due to the Internet has failed to understand that the Tea Party is the Internet itself. It is a self-educating, self-regulating body with no hierarchy. As long as the Internet exists it is the future of communication and the political parties. It will determine what the issues are and how they will be covered. It will determine the candidates and it may very well defeat the party system. No longer can the political parties dictate what the candidates must say or do. There is no central authority.

      Just last week we saw John Boehner attempt to lead the Republican party with a tax statement. It was the Tea Party, the mass of the Internet social network, that slapped his tax idea down. Party leadership has shifted to the masses.

      What we are seeing ideologically is that Progressivism is at odds with the Internet. Progressivism is the centralized control of government, of policies, of money, of every aspect of your life. The Tea Party and the Internet is the exact opposite. Progressivism is in the end socialism. (If you do not believe me just ask a progressive when government is big enough.)

      The Tea Party is the grass roots anarchy of the Internet. The genie is out of the bottle and we can’t put it back. The Tea Party is a social network.

  • George McM

    Any of you who were there for the first 9-12 march or this year’s Glenn Beck special or 9-12 – you know what is happening. You have seen and heard it and no longer feel like the Lone Ranger fighting the establishment. Washington still doesn’t get it. The Repubs thought we were backing them – wrong! The Dems don’t know what hit them. They’ll be sitting around on Dec 3rd wondering how Sharon and Christine won. The more mud they sling at them, the more they will lose by. Nobody is listening to the lame stream media (if they do they don’t count in what is happening – they probably don’t even vote, just complain). The thing to remember is: if we don’t make this happen, it is our fault. We the people have to fix this mess. If you aren’t already busy convincing your neighbors to vote them all out – shame on you. Walk out your front door and start knocking on your neighbors’ doors. Tell all but the cool-aid addicts (there is no sense talking to idiots) what is happening and how they can do their part to stop it and reverse it. DO IT NOW!

  • Larry C.

    Hello,
    All of these things were ordered to happen a long time ago, and what I mean is we are marching head long folks into the “END OF TIMES”, and I care not if people believe me or not but it is the truth, and we are about to start the downward turn when the entire continent of Europe will explode, and it will unleash the ONE that they call the Anti-Christ. He might even be alive already in Europe. When it occurs it will be to late. I care about people that is why I post this here. I know the end of the story that is why I can say what I say.

    Larry C.

    • Conservatives United

      Go a little deeper than Greenspan and Fed Policy. The real problem is that the MONSTER created in 1913, the Federal Reserve, need to be ABOLISHED, YES THATS RIGHT ABOLISHED. They create WORTHLESS FIAT MONEY out of thin air, lend it to the Federal Government, and we pay REAL MONEY IN TAXES, to the IRS, (If you illimate the Fed Res, you get rid of the IRS also)to pay the INTEREST ON THAT DEBT. The federal reserve, is controlled by all the big banks, that are controlled, by the Bilderbergs, the Rothchilds and more.

  • mrdave98765

    Even Greenspan doesn’t get it. He says raise taxes to reduce the deficit. a lot of what Obama has spent needs to be undone. We need someone to do what Sarah Palin did for Alaska. Read her book.

    • s c

      MrDave98765, Herr Greenspan does ‘get it.’ His masters won’t let him say it. At one time, he knew and admitted that gold is a form of true wealth and makes a currency worth having. Somewhere along the line, Herr Greenspan sold his posterior, got a taste of power and joined the anal retentive crowd (Ben the Boob is no improvement).
      Only money, power and an inflated ego can turn an otherwise intelligent man into a drooling, self-destructive mental case.

      • tg7357

        Wow!! That was one of the alternative book titles I was thinking of for OBama’s books! “Dreams of my Fathers ” = “Drooling, Self-Destructive Mental Case” works just as well!! LOL!!!

  • Angel Wannabe

    FF, type in said candidates name & bio + read = INFORMED VOTE!

  • TIME

    Folks the facts are the “Progressive” are in both partys and there are many of you who now grasp this, thats why the power structure is changing and they know it and they are not happy about it at all, just watch as the November election get closer, just watch Bill Clinton and Barry Soetoro and his crew go on the attack.

    Just look at Karl Rove who has his knickers in a knot over the Delaware winner. Mr. Rove is a “Progressive” {not unlike any name brand Republican} you ever see. Thats the only reason you ever see tham, get it? Watch these Progressives now expose themselfs, just take note of who they are.

    This is not the last battle and we have not won anything yet, we have a LONG road ahead, and thats if it all stays intact until we can fix the ills, thats even if we can ever fix them.

    I would advise that you all make your peace with God, be ready for the fact that we as a nation stand no more than 10% chance of ever coming out of the tail spin we are in now.

    Folks after just 90 days with out electric power, as many as 1/2 of the United States population would be dead. The old, the sick, the ones on meds, special needs, and or the very young.

    Thats only one key, then toss in planned spreading of infections by way of sub level germs in the water suppy’s or airbourne implants done on a by monthly drop with good air currents and no matter how much food and or what ever you still more likly will be dead within 45 days, and within 120 days whats left will be in tatters and willing to serve any master who grants them food and water.

    During the 120 days Add in Group attacks for foods and what ever supplys can be found, and the population will fall like rain drops in a really bad storm.

    This post is not meant to inflame anyone, its just pure Logic based on the facts of nature as well the mass population compression with in areas of the US Population lines, along with lacking drugs, clean water, infected air supplys, plies of dead rotting corpses with mass influxes of insects who would carry and spread infections.

    Then comes the MOP UP.

    As I said know your game, know where the real power comes from, and you stand a chance of living, but will being a Slave be what you really want for a life?

    So work really hard now to remove all the “Progressive from Congress and the Senate, as well all branches of Government” before the above plays out first hand.

    Think it can’t happen, think again.

    • Bob Wire

      “Just look at Karl Rove who has his knickers in a knot over the Delaware winner. Mr. Rove is a “Progressive” {not unlike any name brand Republican} you ever see. That’s the only reason you ever see them, get it? Watch these Progressives now expose themselves, just take note of who they are.”

      Ha ha ! funny ! Well Karl, not being in “your camp” surly don’t make him in the “Progressive” camp Time.

      Karl is caught up in a twisted tangle of lies, deliberate misconceptions and premeditated carelessness.

      And I’m really enjoying the show Thank you for that.

      tear his butt up! ~ he’s deserving ~ I wish Chaney and his straight daughter Elisabeth might weigh in and you can give them hell too!

      • Conservatives United

        Has anyone also notices the dodging and ducking that Newt Gingrich has been doing. Time to retire ALL of the establishment eletist form both parties.

      • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

        Bob-

        What liberals on this site don’t seem to comprehend is that most people writing here want a broad return to conservative, constitutional values. It’s not about the party.

        The Tea Party is currently the strongest expression of the desire for conservative values, and it’s why they are decentralized. Thinking that they are controlled by the Republicans, and disparaging them, are strategic errors on the part of liberals. It had an effect early on, but now, too many look at the Tea Party in sympathy.

        Liberals and Republicans can choose to understand that the Tea Party wants smaller government and less spending, or not. The Tea Party may lose some elections, but prepare yourself for their growth. They may even find some common ground with Libertarians.

        The endless arguments in relation to conservatism…that he/she did this, and so-and-so did that during Republican administrations, is not the point.

    • Marv

      You have been watching way too much Glen Beck….crazy paranoia is not going to persuade anyone but other crazy paranoid people. And God help us if people like Beck ever do get the Keys to the Kingdom. But wait, I don’t need to worry about that because Glen Beck is nothing but an entertainer that some folks take seriously. Beck’s crazy people…the nervous breakdown is getting closer and closer. I hope not too many of you follow him off the cliff.

      • mrdave98765

        Crazy paranoia is definitely not good. But too many Americans still want to stick their heads in the sand and hope it all comes out in the wash. Work hard for the Nov. elections-we can make a big difference. Stock your pantry with food, water and supplies in case something bad happens, maybe even get a gun. The above mentioned could very well happen. It’s not much different than what you read in the Bible Matthew 24. Yes, I listen to Glen Beck, but I’m not ‘following’ anyone except Jesus and he won’t lead me off a cliff!

      • TIME

        Marv,
        So you think that Barry Soetoro who you really know nothing at all about is a good POTUS?

        Just for the record in the United States of America, “there is no legal name change Doucments from Barry Soetoro to Barack Mohammed Husain Obama,” that alone should have anyone with any gray matter asking very hard questions.

        Be that as it may sealing ones records should have dropped anyone like a hard right hook.

        • Marv

          Snopes.com Read the WHOLE article….the beginning is FALSE.

          The Occidental Tourist

          Claim: Recently released records document that Barack Obama received college financial aid in the U.S. as a “foreign student from Indonesia.”

          FALSE

          Example: [Collected via e-mail, April 2009]

          April 1, 2009

          Final Nail In Obamas Lack Of US Citizenship Coffin?

          AP- WASHINGTON D.C. – In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obamas qualifications for the presidency, the group Americans for Freedom of Information has released copies of President Obamas college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obamas detractors have been seeking.

          The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obamas legitimacy and qualification to serve as president. When reached for comment in London, where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue. Meanwhile, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs scoffed at the report stating that this was obviously another attempt by a right-wing conservative group to discredit the president and undermine the administrations efforts to move the country in a new direction.

          Britain’s Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article titled, Obama Eligibility Questioned, leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obamas first official visit to the U.K.

          In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments

          concerning Obamas legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrios case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obamas citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

          Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obamas campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter.

          ORIGINS: One of the avenues of approach taken by “birthers” in their quest to demonstrate that Barack Obama is not eligible to hold the office of President of the United States is to try to demonstrate that, even if he was born in the United States, he gave up his U.S. citizenship somewhere along the way … and if he’s not a U.S. citizen, then he can’t legitimately be President of the United States. Therefore, many birthers have gleefully seized onto the above-cited news report from April 2009, which purports that Barack Obama attended Occidental College in Los Angeles under a scholarship granted only to students of “foreign citizenship.” However, this item isn’t a news report at all — it’s a hoax whose elements are all demonstrably false:
          The article is datelined “April 1, 2009″ and tagged “AP,” signifying it came from the Associated Press news agency. The date is a giveaway to the hoax (it’s April Fool’s Day), and the text of the article does not at all fit the standard Associated Press stylebook guidelines.
          There was no such group as “Americans for Freedom of Information” at the time this article began circulating (although someone has since registered a site using that domain name); in fact, a web site for the then-faux organization was established to poke fun at those who believed it did:
          Read these tiny words very closely: the group Americans for Freedom of Information does not exist, just like the supposed “AP article” you keep cutting and pasting into e-mails to your irritated family does not exist, just like the “Daily Mail article” referenced in the fake “AP article” does not exist. They’re all fabrications. Fakes. Hoaxes. Ask yourself why you’re so eager to believe these obvious fakes. No, really. Really, really ask yourself.
          Barack Obama attended Occidental College in California for two years as an undergraduate from 1979-81 under the name Obama, not Soetoro (the latter is the surname of his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro):
          Jim Tranquada, Occidental’s Director of Communications, said: “Contemporary public documents, such as the 1979-80 freshman ‘Lookbook’ [a guide distributed to incoming freshman] published at the beginning of President Obama’s first year at Occidental, list him as Barack Obama. All of the Occidental alumni I have spoken to from that era (1979-81) who knew him, knew him as Barry Obama.”
          Fulbright scholarships for foreign students are coordinated through the American Indonesian Exchange Foundation (AMINEF), which does not fund Indonesians for undergraduate study in the United States (only for master’s or doctorate programs).
          Barack Obama’s student records from Occidental College remain unreleased. He has not chosen to make them public, nor has any court ordered the school to release them.
          Searches of newspaper archives and electronic news databases shown that neither Britain’s Daily Mail nor any other major UK newspaper published a front-page article entitled “Obama Eligibility Questioned” in 2009, nor did any such newspaper published an article consisting of the text reproduced above.
          Leo Donofrio’s lawsuit challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility for the presidency was denied a hearing by the Supreme Court of New Jersey back in December 2008. It has not been taken up by the U.S. Supreme Court.
          The web site of the United States Justice Foundation includes no report of an “investigation of Obama’s campaign spending,” and the executive director of that organization who is referenced in the e-mail, Gary Kreep, said in response to an inquiry that the e-mail was a hoax.

  • Jim

    It’s OK Alex…take a deep breath. It’s morning and it’s time to go to work!?! Oh, my mistake. You don’t have to because your Mommy and Daddy are taking good care of you and you don’t have to worry about going to work, paying taxes, planning for your future or any other adult activity’s. Your plan: Get older and have a communist leader to provide for your every need. I’m glad I don’t live in your world. I like taking care of my wife, my children, my grandkids and myself. Hopefully, someday, you’ll grow up and be a responsible adult. Get a spine Alex and show a little of it.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Well Said Jim!

  • Annie Ladysmith

    This is one of the most blatent disinformation sites on the internet.
    Are you AIPAC, CIA, or MOSSAD? People, don’t you see they are outnumbered and they want us to believe the lie that we are weak and our only option is dispair? DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIES. We are stronger than them if we unite, if we go into despair, seige mentality, we will become more isolated and they will win. Bob Livingston is a Benedict Arnold praying on peoples fears and weaknesses, he is on their payroll. He never states the root problem behind this manufactured “collapse”.

    • sylviam

      Oh, YES he did say what the root problem was, THE FREE LOADERS, WANTING EVERYTHING FOR NADDA. ALL THE FREEBEES LEFT WITH SANTA CLAUSE. Not one thing in our life is for FREE we have to work for every thing we get. THOSE of with a minute BRAIN CEL knows this. THE GOV CANNOT GIVE YOU ANY-or ONE THING. THEY HAVE NOTHING TO GIVE. THEY ONLY TAKE.
      YOU WANT PIZZA FOR DINNER? GO TO NEAREST PLACE FOR THAT PIZZA AND JUST TRY TO GET IT FOR $0000.00. THEY WILL SEND YOU PACKING.
      COMMON sense tells you YOU HAVE TO GET WHAT YOU WANT IF YOU *WORK*.
      GOD BLESS AMERICA

    • Craig

      Liberals sure do love to prove to world how ignorant they are.

    • Strawberry Shortcake

      Annie, you should probably go back to your little community organizer meeting and let them know your assigned task failed…you won’t get anyone “united” under your brainwashed ideals here other than the other morons that think like you. We do have a couple of them that like to humor us with their bantering…but then you are probably already acquainted with them.

    • Conservatives United

      If you don’t believe that socialism will collapse this country, keep in mind that socialism collapsed the Soviet Union, Socialism collapsed the economy of Greece and is about to do the same in many other European nations. Do the research, and stop listening lies and garbage that the LAME STEAM MEDIA, are parroting of what the Socialist, Marxist, Illegal in the White House, his Thugs, an the Scumbags in Congress (both parties) are spewing forth.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Yep! That about sums this whole thing up!

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      Big claims. Little substantiation.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Allan…..and your point?

  • CJM

    Everything that the current Congress and administration have put into law must be repealed. The Obama/Pelosi/Reid health care system, the bailouts of the banks and corporations, and the new “financial reform act” are all UNconstitutional. Furthermore, the Congress needs to remove the power from agencies such as EPA because these agencies have been enacting LAWS, which are not within their domain. Only Congress can make laws; an agency can write a regulation, but Congress must approve it for it to become enforceable. We need to keep a closer eye on the current US Supreme Court given the ideologies of the last two who were “nominated” into that prestigious office (the democrats nominated the women; it was not a bipartisan vote).

    • THINK ABOUT

      Bail outs to banks was before Obama was president.

      • Bob Wire

        NO! they don’t want to think about that! ~ you are just wanting to blaming Bush!

        How dare you ~ bother us with the facts !

      • alpha-lemming

        But it WAS enacted by a fellow Progressive.

      • Jeep

        True…kinda…I guess the 350bil that BO secured from TARP doesn’t count? After all, he could have just given it back to the people…

      • JC

        And it was wrong….The Kenyan hasn’t done us any favors or brought about any change other that to take a wrong and make it one hell of a lot worse!

  • Bob Wire

    “The bailouts enriched the banksters and Wall Street, and Obamacare — a Eurosocialist healthcare model — was implemented to steal freedom from of choice from Americans and saddle them with coming additional taxes and death panels that will decide whether they live or die.”

    Well ? you are half right Bob!

    To every beginning there comes an end to all things. Being half right, half of the time only hasten the process Bob.

    If anti-trust immunity was not offered health insurance companies or this long history of raising rates, dropping insures or denying coverage and in general showing callous disregard to customers across the board,perhaps “Obama Care” would not be necessary? As is , they offer a product too few qualify for.

    That your cup is “always” seen as half empty, there’s little I offer you.

    Tomorrow belongs to people with vision, but you would rather we might accept the position of “victim” and suffer our tomorrows with a death grip on yesterday.

    There is serious issues before us today but your dismal views are self-defeating and non-productive.

    There nothing to gain in telling people they are dieing unless you can offer a cure. You offer us poison that kills both bad & good.

    White people have always been out numbered and this will not change. This social/economic group of people you pander to, needs to get a grip and understand, one life time is very short and start “living their life” and stop enduring it. Quit fearing their tomorrows. There is limits to how much “certainty” we can instill in tomorrow. Hedge funds is a great approach ~ but still a “bet” no less.

    I have many enemies,~ city, county and state but my biggest enemy is the same as yours, “Time” ~ I have people wanting to take my time away, demanding my “contribution,support and compliance” and then~ nature is doing a pretty good job of robbing me as well. I “choose” to not be over whelmed by these constant attacks and thankful for each day I’m given to make corrections.

    Our Government is much like a good loyal old hound that likes to kill skunks, it’s serves a vital purpose but stinks so bad you don’t want it near you. Everyone can take offense to it’s presence. Yes, I am offended! but I’m not ready to get rid of my dog.

    • George McM

      Bob,
      Take the clothes-pin off your nose. Then you might want to do something about that stinking dog. You don’t like it – then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Belly-aching holds nobody’s attention.

      • Bob Wire

        I’m not the one complaining here ~ I’ve sent my people to the hill and things are proceeding as I might have expected. ~ A lot of whining from people who’s position at the feed trough is being changed and challenged.

        Don’t like you’re new position? ~ Well, I never liked my tax money subsidizing well employed and heeled up American’s major medical Insurance policies while myself being self employed and could not qualify and turned down, denied coverage while being willing to buy it.

        Something about it just didn’t seem fair. ~ But I’ve little doubt you might think it was a “good deal” for you.

        the more you complain ~ the better I feel.

        While not perfect ~ things are improving for more American’s today then they have in the last 30 years.

        This next general election will tell everyone, including big business which way the wind is blowing.

        The party of “No” and the Tea party needs to play their best hand and be willing to accept the results, win lose or draw.

        It’s very difficult to trim back entrenched “power”, they have enjoyed 30 years of financial and political gains and have much to fight back with.

        I hold no illusions of clear victories or my position, but unlike many here ~ I will accept the outcome and continue the good fight.

        • Jeep

          I suppose Bob, if you go to a car lot you should be able to buy any car you want. Whether or not you can afford it. Or, maybe you think that because your neighbor makes more than you the govt should step in and “fix” that. Somehow you miss the point that Tea Partiers are making. The govt is NOT here to ensure “equal” or “fair” results. Your STATE govt is here to ensure a fair playground, and the federal govt needs to back off. You and your ilk are all about legalized theft and redistribution. Well, bring it on big boy.

          • Bob Wire

            State government is one of the big thieves !

            You need to decide what we at talking about! Shall we talk about the private sector or public? There a big difference between the two you know.

            The private sector can’t levee fine, penalties and fees to make up for their over spending. But Government can. Government can make it impossible for you to comply and then penalize you for non compliance. There is simple thousand of ways State and local government screw over the people, from cheating you out of one to two months in auto licensing fees, depending on when you apply to sales taxes to property taxes.

            The State or city has no interest in a level playing field. They want a bigger budget then they had last year. New City Halls and PD Head Quarters so they can administer their laws and collect taxes.

            One is seven families in the USA are living below poverty level today, and this is due to a systematic fleecing of both government and business of the people.

            The Fed is but one ~ there are many forces at work to separate the people from their discretionary spending.

            I’ve been subjected to “sharing the wealth” for 30 years now ~ It’s not a new idea! The American people have permitted economic perditors

          • Bob Wire

            State government is one of the big thieves out there!

            You need to decide what we at talking about! Shall we talk about the private sector or public? There a big difference between the two you know.

            The private sector can’t levee fine, penalties and fees to make up for their over spending. But Government can. Government can make it impossible for you to comply and then penalize you for non compliance. There is simple thousand of ways State and local government screw over the people, from cheating you out of one to two months in auto licensing fees, depending on when you apply to sales taxes to property taxes, the same with Professional Licensing fees. ~ Oh! you got to have a licenses to stand there! Is that your truck? ~ where’s your state license number ( well, I thought it was MY truck) ~ You want to fish? got your license? You want to build a patio? put in a sprinkler system? ~ hang a light? fly a flag? ~ pay me!

            The State or city has no interest in a level playing field. They want a bigger budget then they had last year. New City Halls and PD Head Quarters with new carpet and 500 dollar office chairs so they can administer their laws and collect taxes.

            One is seven families in the USA are living below poverty level today, and this is due to a systematic fleecing of citizens by both government and business.

            The Fed is but one ~ there are many forces at work to separate the people from their discretionary spending.

            I’ve been subjected to “sharing the wealth” for 30 years now ~ It’s not a new idea! The American people have permitted economic predators too much control over the nation.

            And why bring up Joe 6 Pack buying a car he can’ afford? ~ what’s your point? People are always doing stupid things. Why would someone spend 500 dollars for some exconvict to draw ink pictures on their body? WHY? cause it’s prudy? People do stupid things but I thought we were discussing politics.

            And if you are attempting bring forward all the home foreclosures ! Mind you, many lending institution and tax appraisal district was just as optimistic as were the new home buyers. Or perhaps you think these new home buyers held a gun to their heads?

            The last “bailout” pales in comparison to the first ! ~ The Bush administration started this whole “share the wealth” business. That these large banking interest held retirement and investment funds for the more affluent American, it’s no surprise the media and public outcry was so small, yet they cry and moan over the most bailout.

            People don’t want hand outs ~ they want opportunities. And that’s what missing today. Too many people to few opportunities.

          • Jeep

            Bob, the bottom line is, it does not matter, at this point, what the “Bush Administration” did. What matters is what the current administration is doing NOW. We could argue all day about what was done and who is responsible. The fact is that the dems have FULL control, and you may spin it anyway you want, but the economy is not getting better, period. Our foreign relations have NOT improved, period (especially with our closest allies.)

            As far as state vs. federal is concerned, the answer is clearly written in the Constitution. Federal powers are strictly enumerated.

            Enumerate – to mention separately as if in counting; name one by one; specify, as in a list: Let me enumerate the many flaws in your hypothesis.

            State powers are not specified, period. So, if you don’t like your state, suck it up, change it, or move somewhere more friendly. Sorry, but those are your options.

  • Robert Hahn

    Bob: There is one topic you missed, although you are quite comprehensive in describing the reprehensible demoncrat regime of the bama BADministration thugs. We need the birth certificate and other background documentation to be demanded to be produced…where there is SMOKE in the millions spent by bama and his stealthy backers to hide those documents…there is FIRE. The Country will be aghast but relieved to know the truth and the stealthy backers and their big vision agenda once divulged, including likely the muslim and foreign backers into the 2008 bama shirade campaign and the electoral college moles by collaborative bama agenda conspirators. Let the truth be known, and the sooner the better! Too much damage to the Country has already been done by bama, the anti-American, and by his pandering saboteurs by his vile legislation and backdoor secret planning for the obvious destruction agenda against our Country. Our Country cannot afford to wait as long as Nov 2012 to get rid of saboteurbama. bama begone!

    • THINK ABOUT

      The birth certificate was presented but it must have not met with your expectations, continuing to spread untruths will not make things come out the way you wish.

      • Cameron

        THINK ABOUT IT, you rectal orifice. There has been NO official, certified, genuine, for really and sure, actual birth certificate EVER produced that proves our fearless leader was actually born in Hawaii, just a certificate of live birth, but there is a claim that a birth certificate HAS been located that proves this impostor was born on foreign soil, to a foreign parent. I would LOVE to see either one, & to hear ANYONE who could verify his childhood education, or his college-level education for that matter. Mr. Obama does NOT love America because one does not destroy something that one loves.

        • Bob Wire

          Please identify this destruction with less anal retention so we might all have the opportunity to agree or disagree.

          I know of people born at home, as for myself I was born in a clinic.

          In 1973 I assisted a woman giving birth in the back of my sheriff cruder in the parking lot of a “No Tell Hotel” ~ So I think you need for “certain and specific” documentation far afield of the realities of child birthing.

  • http://www.us-note-buyer.com Rono

    The Republicans are not very different from the Democrats. It’s great to see the Tea Party taking over the Republican party. Getting a third party on the ballot with all the Regime’s blockades would be nearly impossible. I just hope the Tea Party winners don’t get into office and turn into fat bureaucrats like most others in the past have.

  • Robert

    I am in Arizona, and we got John McCain. Am I for Mr. Mcain…hell no! He has about as much credibitliy as John Kerry, and being a retired military person, John Kerry is at the bottom of the cesspool. Be that as it may, the discussion is who in Az. can get the votes away from McCain, for he needs to go…unfortunately at this point in time…No One.

    • Bob Wire

      well first off Arizona is a bad place to be. ~ I’ve been there ~ and it’s no place to be.

      Any time you have the biggest employer of the state ~ is Government ! you are screwed! and the second being Walmart and that only because Mexican National by the thousand are crossing the border to shop ~

      You are living inside some strange manufactured bubble.

      I did love the sunrise and sunsets though ~ next to being at sea ~ they were some of the best I’ve ever seen.

      • Jeep

        Bob, WTF? This has to be one of the weirdest posts I’ve read. Az is alright. You may not like it…but, other than your rave reviews on socialism, I have come to see that you don’t like much of anything. You have a very pessimistic view of life.

        • Bob Wire

          Go spend a week in Yuma or Huachuca or Bisbee, then we can talk. ~ I’m calling it like it is. The US Army is down there playing with their super secrets toys figuring people in their right mind wouldn’t be caught dead there, I find their thinking sound. It has turned into a place for seniors to easy their aching bones and get out of the cold. No smarter then the residence of New Orleans in matters of choice of location.

          It’s true ! I’m not anti-socialist ~ I’ve made it to 62 without drawing a dime of federal or state money or unemployment, being self employed since 78.

          I need productive, prosperous people for my business to flourish ~ I am a people person. As the middle dries up, so do I.
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
          “Center for American Progress

          * Issues › Economy › Economic Outlook
          America’s Middle Class Still Losing Ground

          Middle class economic security is taking an ever harder hit as economic conditions worsen.
          SOURCE: Flickr/MontanaRaven

          By Christian E. Weller, Amanda Logan | July 30, 2008

          America’s middle-class families are still struggling. With the current economic downturn, economists, policymakers, and pundits alike now recognize what many middle-class families have long been feeling: that their financial security is in decline. Although economists so far have not officially announced the beginning of a recession this year, the sharp downturn in economic growth certainly has made things worse for families who have been struggling for years with massive amounts of debt, declining incomes, and rising prices.

          For the past two years, the Center for American Progress has calculated a number of middle-class financial security indicators to measure how many families have the financial resources for a spell of unemployment, for a medical emergency, for both, or for an unspecified economic emergency equal to three months of their income. Our figures demonstrate the financial and economic roller coaster ride that America’s middle class has been on.

          The trends since 1989, the first year for which we have data, showed an increase in middle-class security through the 1990s. After 2000, however, the situation deteriorated very quickly—all of the gains in middle-class economic security were erased within a few years. We have now updated the figures to reflect the trends for 2006 and 2007 and to include more accurate data for 2005 than we had before. All the measures we tracked either decreased further or stayed at their already low levels from 2005 (See chart on page two). Data to 2008 is not available, but there can be no doubt that with worsening economic conditions middle class economic security is taking an ever harder hit. The new data underscore that:

          * The sharpest deterioration in middle-class financial security is associated ƒ with the cost of a medical emergency. We estimate that only 33.9 percent of families had enough wealth in 2007 to cover the cost of a medical emergency, down from 35.0 percent in 2005 and 43.7 percent in 2000 (See table on page 3). This deterioration comes as a result of less wealth and higher costs of medical emergencies.
          * Drops in personal wealth have contributed to the decline in middle-class ƒ financial security. Because house prices started to fall and debt continued to rise in 2007, we also observed the share of families who could weather an unspecified emergency equal to three months of income decrease to 29.4 percent in 2007, from 30.5 percent in 2005 and 39.4 percent in 2000.
          * The share of families who had ƒ enough resources to cover a spell of unemployment has declined since 2000. In 2007, 44.1 percent of families had enough wealth to cover a spell of unemployment, little changed from 44.0 percent in 2005 but still down from 51.0 percent in 2000. Unfortunately, the 2007 data likely reflect only a temporary respite from decline since the labor market has substantially deteriorated in 2008, beyond the time series data presented here.

          Rising middle-class financial insecurity after 2000 is the result of several factors. Incomes have fallen as a result of the weakest job growth since the Great Depression, flat wages, and declining benefits. At the same time, prices for necessary items, such as food, energy, housing, and transportation, have all risen sharply. Finally, personal wealth has been decimated, first by the mortgage boom, which allowed more families to build wealth by purchasing homes but also required them to take on higher debt levels, and then by the bursting housing bubble, which of course depleted the value of those home investments, and then by much weaker financial markets.

          Providing America’s middle class with more financial security is a tall order. It will require serious efforts to ensure that incomes rise in a growing economy, and that families can build wealth in preparation for inevitable emergencies and to invest in their future. It will also require investing in more energy efficiency and alternative fuels so that energy price shocks do not throw families for a loop. And it will require progressive health insurance reform.”
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Now if that makes me a socialist in your eyes ~ I’d say you have a seeing problem or a thinking problem.

          I know “there can be” no top without a strong bottom to hold the top up.

          While it seems you wish to think ~ you are completely self sustaining and stand alone. I think this is a foolish illusion for anyone born of woman.

          I’m sorry you find no “joy” in my post ~ I didn’t think it was a requirement here but the quite the contrary.

          • Jeep

            Bob, just like you are entitled to your “opinion” (such as it is) about Az, I too am entitled to mine. You don’t have to like it either, and frankly, I don’t care.

            Well, at least you admit to your socialist tendencies. It just strikes me as odd that you would lean in favor of an economic system that has failed worldwide, and many times over. As an American it is repugnant to me to think that other Americans feel the need to have a nanny state to care for them. I ask for nothing and expect nothing in return from my govt (do not take this literally, we all know that police, fire, defense, etc. are perfectly acceptable.) But, to feel the need to let my govt pay for anything as basic as health, housing, food, etc. is disgusting. I also realize that it takes money through taxation to pay for these things. I have worked my whole life to get where I am today (I do very well, thank you.) And, now the govt wants a big chunk to “help” someone not willing to live in a studio apt eating Top Ramen until their work, or business takes off. Screw ‘em. It is legalized “highway robbery”. Besides, look at the “stimulus” dollars and follow the trail. Nobody benefited, but those tied to your grand govt. So again, screw ‘em.

    • Stacy

      Robert, I am a fellow Arizonan and am extremely disappointed by the nomination of McCain for yet another run for Senate. I wasn’t thrilled by Hayworth but figured we could vote him out on the next go round at which time I was hoping to see more viable choices. It’s interesting to me that McCain won by such a large number of votes when most conservatives I have spoken to dislike him intensely. I wonder if Deakin sucked up enough votes to make THE difference between Hayworth getting the nod and not. I didn’t look that close, honestly. I heard McCain had won and I walked away nauseated and moved on.

    • Cameron

      Several government agencies have age restrictions on employees, the USPS & FBI among others. No one 35 or older need apply, & no one over 55 needs to plan on not retiring soon. We need a similar law for elected officials. No one over 55 need run & when you hit 70 get ready to exit, stage left, because there are way too many old codgers & old farts warming chairs in government. There’s your term limits right there.

  • chucky

    Joe Sestak has the president coming to Philadelphia to campaign today. He might as well concede the Senate seat to Pat Toomey. Having the guy who tried to manipulate his Democratic nomination come to town to stump for him tells me a lot about the character of Joe Sestak(spineless jellyfish comes to mind). This shows me that He will bow down and surrender his vote(he has no chance of winning now) if elected to this spend now(stimulus part 2),pay later, create jobs only in the public sector(fed and state jobs) will bend to union pressures, will vote for Illegals not being deported but for easy path to citizenship(I will put this mirror under your nose if you can steam the mirror you are an American citizen LOL) This is it America stand up and fight at the polls, or sit back and watch these ideologues steal the American way of life through hard work, risk and reward, less government intrusion. I am outraged that they have broken the Social Security trust(both dems and republicans) where there is no C.O.L.A.(cost of living adjustment) for seniors and I will not even mention how our brave soliders are cast aside while illegal scum (latest stats over 70% of illegals here are wanted in their countries of origin) get benifits. If I was a wanted criminal from another country I guess I would be here too considering the strict laws that every other country has if you are there illegally.

    • sylviam

      You can *THANK* BILL CLINTON for the DISGUSTING way our MILITARY is being treated. CLINTON & HILARY HATED THE THOUGHT of our HEROS much less their position in the world and at HOME. They started CUTTING BACK ON ALL MILITARY NEEDS AS WELL AS THEIR PAY CHECKS. The ones sent to places that were putting them in HARMS WAY expected them to give their ALL. WHICH THEY DID HONORABLY. All this on pay checks equal to MINIMUM WAGE. That is just DISGUSTING as it gets. If truth be known THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT YOU & ME as we speak.
      THE OBAMA BUNCH FEELS THE SAME thats WHY IRAN,& OTHER TERRORIST NATIONS GET TO COME HERE &TRASH *OUR COUNTRY & PEOPLE. OBAMA just BOWS & APPOLOGIZES for *US* TAKE OUT THE DAMN TRASH IN NOV.
      GOD BLESS AMERICA

      • Marv

        And Bush did our hard working and brave soldiers a favor by sending them to an unnecessary war they were not going to win? Bush and his lot had 8 years to fix any problems Clinton created, and Bush and his lot made it a thousand times worse.

        • tg7357

          Tell that to the Iraqi citizens now who have a chance to vote and not be afraid of being dragged out of their homes in the middle of the night by Saddam’s secret police.
          Tell that to the women and children of Afganistan who have a chance now of not having to become casualties of the Taliban’s 5th century religious decrees.
          Tell that to the firemen and policemen in NY who pulled bodies crushed beyond recognition for WEEKS after 9-11 at the Twin Towers.
          You liberals just do not get it, do you? Clueless from the day you were born to the day you die.

          • Marv

            The Iraq war was based on a lie. We cared not one whit about the Iraqi’s condition or about the Afghans until it was a benefit to us to do something about it. You may notice we didn’t step in when Rwanda was devolving into a bloody heap. We couldn’t get anything out of them, so we didn’t care. Sudan offers us no benefit either, so the genocide continues there. Now…if they had some oil…

          • MSSouth

            They have selective memory. The don’t want to remember any of the good that was done with that war. Remember that Obama and all were for it before they were against it. Talk about weak minds.

        • Jeep

          I’ll tell you what Marv. Let’s send you to a small patch of land in NYC so you can visit the twin towers…ooops. I guess the squelching of a few thousand terrorists that were/are bent on blowing up more buildings is a bad thing? Maybe we should fight them on the streets of Miami, or LA? Sure, that would be better.

    • Barbara

      A comment on Mr. Sestak’s voting. Go to Vote Smart and check his voting record. He’s a total rubber stamp.

      I met him when he was first elected to the House. He was nervous about it and I told him that he would be fine as long as he did what was right. Well, he didn’t. And he thinks he can be elected to the Senate now. I doubt it.

      When the hoopla came up on this so-called attempted bribery, I didn’t believe a word he said. Still don’t.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Marty

    We MUST stop the in-fighting…..We MUST stand together…..We MUST be unified…..in order to come
    out ahead in November. The stupid, egoistic, shenannigans of the Republican party in their desire to
    rule never ceases to amaze me. We should learn from the “die-hard” Democrats….they have a united
    front and a “stand together or die” philosophy that causes them to achieve their agendas while the Reps
    are fighting among themselves. I hope and pray that they, and every one of us, realizes that THIS IS IT…
    lose now and, I believe, we are doomed. This should not be about Tea party people vs the Republican
    party….It’s about being united in one common cause…..It’s about freedom to live out our lives with the protection of our laws and our Constitution. WAKE UP, for the sake of this wonderful land of ours and
    for “WE, the people”! WAKE UP!

  • http://NONE DAN PENCE

    GREED HAS KILLED THIS COUNTRY, 90% OF ALL POLITICANS ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY. IT ABSOLUTLY MAKES NO SENSE TO ME FOR A PERSON TO SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BE ELECTED TO A JOB THAT PAYS 100-200 THOUSAND A YEAR. AND DONT TELL ME ITS BECAUSE THEY LOVE THIS COUNTRY, ITS BECAUSE THEY LOVE THE MONEY THEY CAN GET OUT OF IT. IF THEY LOVED THIS COUNTRY THEY WOULD WORK FOR FREE. ITS A FACT THEY CAN AFFORD TO BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE MILLIONAIRES TO START WITH. AS FAR AS IAM CONCERNED THE INCUMBENT BETTER NOT BE LOOKING FOR MY VOTE. GET RID OF THEM ALL. STARTING AT A FEDERAL LEVEL, THEN STATE,THEN COUNTY, THEN CITY.

    • Marv

      DAN PENCE says:
      September 20, 2010 at 11:09 am
      GREED HAS KILLED THIS COUNTRY, 90% OF ALL POLITICANS ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY.

      Couldn’t agree more. I do think there are some honorable people that really want to make a difference. Unfortunately, once they get into office the money, power, and influence start to play a part and they have to sell their (and our) souls to get anything done. Politics is a game that has been played since the beginning of time. For all of the whining and screeching about the US political system…you need to remember it is the best in the world because of, and not in spite of, the tumultuous way things get done. The USA wouldn’t be the great place it is today if all of our politicians agreed with each other. We would be more like North Korea. And don’t even say we are already like that because that’s a bald-faced lie.

    • Cameron

      Danny Boy, I know of at LEAST two politicians who, when they got elected to the US House of Representatives (both Democrats) that they had to borrow the money for bus fare to get to DC. LBJ from TX was filthy rich when he died, & Bennie Thompson from MS is the richest man in the MS Delta now. My Daddy used to say if a politician couldn’t steal enough money to retire on in two terms he ought to be kicked out anyway because he wasn’t worth a damn. We’ve got the best politicians money can buy, unfortunately they’re writing their own checks & retirement benefits.

  • http://gmail i41

    Alex and flushman, are both the same person, the only difference is when A- the lower talking vent, and f- the other talking vent, both vents spew the same fecal material all the time. That is how you can always lnow a socialist democrat, if air is moving, their alwayd unloading a load of crap on the American people. Go Tea Party, rinos and the marxist democrats are unsure and don’t know if they can lie and b–l s–t their way for another complete super majority again. Next year will make Tea Party even strong and only just getting STARTED! Aflushman go back to you Blarney doll, it is losing air pressure, so blow on it.

  • tg7357

    We don’t have a ‘two-party system’ in this country anymore. What we ahve are Democrats and Republican-democrats. They are all in office for their own benefit, not for ours. I was GLAD to see the Tea-Party shake the tree and get a lot of RINOs to fall out of it. I hope they keep it up: a legitimate 3rd party is needed desperately in America!!

  • rharrison003

    Don’t forget!

    Come November 2nd,
    Throw the trash out!!!

  • duggy dugg

    BONDS ARE THE PROBLEM ! yes , chip brushed over it when he said “The fiat system, instituted under the darkness of night 97 years ago” what he fails to say it the “fed” was created 97 years ago ; in 1913 , the government stopped printing dollars ; a private cartel of banksters got the franchise to print federal reserve notes; this swindler uses these bogus dollars created from air to buy our government’s bonds ! this only puts us in debt ! the natonal debt to be exact ! your income taxes are used to pay the intereet on the national debt ! not even the principle ! just the vig ! the interet ; the debt keeps skyrocketing !

    demand the end of gov’t borrowing [ selling bonds ] by the usg ! our “fiat” money system is just fine , as long as “we” print the money , not the ngo “fed” as a debt ! ! ! ! BORROWING is the problem ; why does a sovereign nation need to borrow ? answer : it does not ! you cant borrow your way out of debt !!! ! !

  • Howard Roark

    This all started for us in the early 1920′s. The new progressive movement wrote in it’s founding paper (the progressive platform of 1912) that it would devise a quick means of changing the Constitution. They knew that they could never change the Constitution legally with the amendment as We the people would never go along with their socialist agenda.so they decided that it would be so much easier to put five of their liars for hire criminal judges on the supreme court and they would make the Constitution say what the progressives wanted it to say.

    These criminal judges have done a great job. Starting pretty much with Frankie the Marxist Rosevelt the Supreme court began to direct power to the Feds by misinterpreting the Constitution. it started with the Commerce clause.They slowly granted more and more power to the Fed’s until we are where we are today. Congress is now saying that every thing we do is somehow related to commerce and because of that they can make us do anything that they want us to do. (Purchase health insurance) Then the criminal judges ruled that the sentence “To provide for the grneral welfare” (Art 1 Sec 8) means that the Congress can expend tax payer money on the general welfare. They ruled this this in spite of the fact that this sentence concerning the general welfare came up in debates during ratification of the constitution. During those debates James Madison and Thomas Jefferson both told the States that their fears were unfounded as the General welfare sentence did not give any power to the Fed Govt. they explained that the enumerated powers listed below would be Congress’s powers to achieve the goals indicated in the opening paregraph.(Article 1 section 8)

    James Madison wrote in the Federalist Papers that “the powers of the Federal Government would be few and enumerated and that the powers of the States would be many and varied” in fact he wrote in that same paper that under the New Constitution about the only time that the Fed Govt would do much of anything would be during the time of war. (Remember we were taught in school that the new Constitution was created to have the Fed Govt do ONLY those few things (ENUMERATED POWERS) that the States shouldn’t be doing.)

    As hard as I look at the Constitution Amendments, I can find no amendment that changes the arrangement of powers thast was indicated to the States at the time of Ratification of the Constitution.

    If the constitution was not changed legally (the amendment is the only legal way to change the constitution.)then it becomes obvious that it has been the Courts that have done the damage over the decades.

    so hflashman, we can blame the Dems for what we are seeing today. the Dems are merely an extention of the progressive movement. Every time Obummer addrerss’s Congress he greets his FRIENDS on the right (LIE) and his progressive friends. He never mentions the Democrats that are not progressives. (there are some)

    I recommend that everyone pull up the PPOGRESSIVE PLATFORM OF 1912 and read it for yourself. It is the plan to take over the country and they have almost succeded. We can still turn it around but it is going to be very painful for everyone.

    • Viktor Leben

      Howard,

      You are just a fountainhead of information !

    • James

      Howard, The way the system was changed, was by the federal government using its taxing power to take money from the States, then offering some of it back to States that would submit to federal dictates. For example, highway repair funds were withheld unless States agreed to lower their highway speed limits. School lunch funds were withheld unless States agreed to federal control of what was taught. All the States have to do is stop accepting these federal handouts, with these federal strings attached.

    • BrotherPatriot

      Nice work, Howard!

  • w mary truman

    I rec. your newsletter on another email acct. please delete this one. it’s a business office. thanks.

  • Howard Roark

    Thats Art one Sec eight. I dont know how the smile faces got in there.

  • duggy dugg

    CORRECTION : BOB brushed over it ….i saw chip’s pic at the top and thot he had written the article

    END GOV’T BORROWING FROM THE FED et al
    END THE FED
    END BRIBERY [ campaign contributions / lobby / pac payola ] let gov’t pay for campaign expenses …cost a bundle lees than inc’s and banxx electing spendocrats republobailers war inc’s

  • E T

    The republicans are ahead of the curve (thanks to the tea party people) by starting to THROW THE BUMS OUT in the primaries and the republicans should advertize that fact. Tell poeple that THROW THE BUMS OUT HAS ALREADY STARTED with republicans and we need to continue it into the general election with the democrats.

  • Howard Roark

    Look at the four Communist’s on the Supreme Court. it should be obvious by now that bevery ruling they make is based on their own personal ideoligy and has nothing to do with the Constitution. Hell they even look at and actually consider what foreign courts are doing.

    • Cameron

      NO judge or “Justice” should have “empathy” for ANY ethnic group. Their only duty is to fairly enforce the laws AS WRITTEN on everybody regardless of station in life. Every law is like a double-edged sword: it should cut both ways to those who are deserving of it. The ONLY “empathy” should be for the Constitution.

  • L.J.

    I was reading a book dealing with the fall of empires, mainly Rome. Anyone want to guess what the last “brick to fall” was before the empire crumbled into non-resistance? If you guessed the looting of the treasury, you guessed right!It appears that when free societies get to this stage, politicians stop doing their SWORN duty and assume they are entitled to loot the treasury for their own benefit and the benefit of the friends (unions, special interest groups, ET Al.)
    I have NO idea how we, as a nation, are going to keep from falling into collapse without an act of God. HE, not us, will have to supernaturally intervene to set things straight; but there’s one caveat. The people have to humble themselves and seek his Face first. Think the people of the U.S. can even humble themselves in this age of narcissism and “I’ve got mine” mentality.”? I don’t know.
    I make no secret of the fact that I watch Glenn Beck on Fox and the majority of what he’s saying is TRUE. Except for a few doctrinal issues that I disagree with him on, he’s right on target.
    I am not so sure that EVEN voting for, and getting the RIGHT people into office will change things.
    Obama and his ghouls are on a rampage to destroy this Republic using the tactics of Cloward & Piven to bring down our nation and that includes swelling the ranks of their supporters with ILLEGALS given blanket amnesty. He wants to submit us to the international, one-world government body known as the U.N. (the ‘blue helmets’) who are sent into war zones to keep the peace and they cannot even do that! And we are supposed to lay down out rights and arms (2nd amendment) and give up our GOD-GIVEN sovereignty to that ungodly heathen collection of liars, thieves and murderers?
    Where the hell is a Lee Harvey Oswald when you need one?

    • tg7357

      Well. you also have to remember that Rome was helped into decline by the upswelling of a foreign religion: Christianity. We are seeing the same thing in America with the growing influx and influence of a foregin religion: Islam. We, however, will not be as fortunate on that score as Rome was. The Christians were preaching peace, the Muslims are preaching jihad. Its eating away at the stability of our country by dividing everyone, and with the liberals rubber-stamping everything in favor of Islam, unless we remove both the threat of liberalism and Islamic influence, we are going to wind up with nothing but the classic question: ‘Which way to the Colosseum and are the lions hungry today?”

      • Marv

        The Christians may have been preaching peace, but they were making war in the name of their God. It was called the Crusades. I think a couple of people were killed in that little event. Religion is another tool to exert power and extract money from the common people. If you were truly religious you would mind your own business, pray, and love thy neighbor as thyself.

        • tg7357

          Um-hmm. The Crusades were what? 900 years ago or so? Thats something else you libs don’t get: ancient history. Thats why Obama keeps blaming former administrations for his own shortcomings. But you brought it up, so lets talk about the Crusades for a minute. Do you know what the difference between a ‘crusade’ and a ‘jihad’ is? Nothing.
          The big difference in today’s world between a Muslim and Christian holy war is thats is one-sided: to my knowledge, Christians didn’t decide that Israel has no place in the world and start acting the fool like Islam did. The ‘religion of peace’ made it a cottage industry to hijack planes, kill civilians and maintain terrorist camps to train those to further their agenda.
          So you can knock the Crusades because you don’t have a better argument for blaming Bush and republicans for the Iraq/ Afganistan war. I do know at one time Islam had its tentacles into Europe as far as southern Spain as late as the 1400′s, and with people like you thinking its OK, by 2020 they may have their hooks into the southern US as well. Now, thats something to think about, isn’t it?

          • Bob Wire

            “So you can knock the Crusades because you don’t have a better argument for blaming Bush and republicans for the Iraq/ Afghanistan war.”

            Hmm? I think he was saying about the same thing you offer.

            As for “better arguments” to blame 43 and the GOP for “Wars to no Where”

            There’s so many and it’s been done already. ~ no need to waste the time, it’s history and documented at this point.

        • Cameron

          Mankind has a long history of misusing religion as an excuse to do whatever evils he wished: the Crusades, the Salem witch trials, anything to do w/Islam, pedophilia, polygamy, the list is long indeed. To call one religion evil just because some zealots abused it is disingenuous at best and grabbing at straws, more like spinning the truth. Killing thousands of innocent people under the guise of religion is nothing more that excusing the murderous, black soul of man.

        • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

          And SCIENCE used to bleed people to cure them a few hundred years ago. It’s 2010. Most religions and scientists have evolved, and so should your argument!

    • http://google dsmith

      Alive and well in the CIA

  • TIMERUNNER

    Americans,
    Can we all say loudly and clearly, IMPEACH OBAMA, PELOSI, REID. IMPRISON THE FOLLOWING THIEVES AND LIARS: B.FRANK & C.DODD,GITNER,BERNACKY.
    TEA PARTY MOVENMENT IS FOR THE AMERICAN PATRIOTS OF THE 2010 FARWARD DECADE WHO WILL HAVE THEIR REPUBLIC BACK AS INVISIONED BY THE FOUNDERS OF AMERICA.
    AMERICAN PATRIOT

  • RAMJET

    I believe the founding fathers of this great nation were people of character and integrity. What ever happened to that? These are the kind of people we need to elect again when we can find them. The constitution was second in importance to them (after God that is)

    • Denniso

      Open your eyes…there are people of strong character all over the country,in politics and out. You are falling for the utterly negative portayal of the country and our leaders by the rightwingers who have an interest in creating a doomed mentality for their own political/monetary gain. Don’t be so gullible.

      • MSSouth

        And what history book have you been reading from? It’s is plain to see that it is the “Progressive” history that you are spouting!!!

        • Bob Wire

          ” It’s is plain to see that it is the “Progressive” history that you are spouting!!!
          Reply ; How dare him have a sunny outlook and offer hope! ~ Everyone knows ~ there no reason for it! Look all the way back to 1911 !

          It’s a diabolical plan to bring people together into a social evil scheme! Where they want to be social or not!

          • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

            Sunny outlook by liberals? Actually, if liberal talk radio is any indication, the mood seems pretty desperate.

            And I notice just as much disaffection with the President and liberal congress.

          • Denniso

            The rightwing zealots think that Armageddon is at hand and they think they can scare people into voting for the doom and gloomers…luckily,
            most people don’t fall for it.

          • http://naver samurai

            Obama bin Laden will be experiencing an armegeddon in2012!

      • Conservative at Birth

        Surely, you Jest!

    • Bob Wire

      Character developed a new quality “Greed” and to be seen as a “Winner” even if you dance with the devil.

  • Mikki

    THE PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING. START OFF BY FIRING CONGRESS. NEXT, FIRE THE FED. NEXT ELIMINATE THE IRS. NEXT,PASS LEGISLATION FOR TERM LIMITS ON THE THE HOUSE AND SENATE. NEXT ABOLISH ALL LOBBIEST IN D.C.

    CUT BACK FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND HAVE THEM DO WHAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY CREATED TO DO, PROTECT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FROM OUR ENEMIES!.

    THE FEDERAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT REPRESENTS US, NOT THEMSELVES AND SPECIAL INTERESTS. VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT AND SEND A MESSAGE FROM THE PEOPLE! WE ARE THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY AND WE DESERVE TO BE THE CREDITOR, NOT THE DEBTOR TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

  • Patriot

    The elitists are starting to get nervous and they still do not understand what is happening, stay the course my follow Patriots! This is going to take time, stay focused and do not let anything you hear on the National Networks sway your commitment. When I hear the Republicans starting to complain then I know we are winning over time they will get it first,the Democrats have no clue yet, they will!

    Keep up the good work!

  • Howard Roark

    I would also like to say that the Republicans are not much better than the Democrats. (hopefully this will change after the Nov. election)

    You have to remember though, that for decades the Republicans have been fighting the Dems, who have for decades been buying votes with taxpayer money. (WHEN YOU ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL YOU CAN COUNT ON PAUL TO VOTE FOR YOU) the Republicans in effect have had to go along to get along… At least until we impeach and put in prison those crooked progressive judges, and render their unconstitutional decisions null and void.

  • Lost Dog

    Riots are not what they used to be. What is a conservative to destroy anyway. Burn a building? No that is someone’s property. Turn over a car. Same there. Block an intersection. Not that imposes on others liberty. Show up at the polls in masses and vote. That might work except there are too many blacks, liberals, and newly minted citizens that vote for the liberal be it Dem or Rep. These Tea Party people are a bit odd. Want an isolationist US in a global economy and global interaction capability being possessed by most nations. Also, want the gold standard or some other odd financial idea that ignores reality, massive debt burden and no way to get the money back because the balance of trade is negative with our lenders and has been for decades. Also, the tea party bunch, bless their hearts, wants to return the government to the people, all 315 million of them. Want confusion, that is the route to go. A strong leader with some common sense is needed.

    In 2008, a classic example of abandonment of values and even religion was effected when President Obama was elected. His messianic charm was evident to anyone who was capable of thinking. Many of the 65 million plus who voted for him did so because he was their only hope, their deliverance. His failure to deliver and the negatives he gets is classsic human nature. As the English said of Africa, if you predict an eclipse of the sun for the tribal King, you better have your dates right. President O is not just failing to deliver, he is also failing to lead. Everywhere the rabble is rumbling and raising the cry for revolution. But, they are chickens in hawks feathers. No more willing to do anything but vote which will not solve anything in the dire situation the country is enduring now.

    • Leo

      “In 2008, a classic example of abandonment of values and even religion was effected when President Obama was elected. His messianic charm was evident to anyone who was capable of thinking ” .What???? Change your nickname to Lost Moron . Only imbeciles like you has been “charmed ” by imam Obama . You liberals incapable of thinking because of mind decease . We can cure you . We’ve got the medicine for progressives only – baseball bat .

    • alpha-lemming

      By definition… doesn’t being “charmed” (synonyms…enchanted, enticed etc.) preclude ANY evidence of thinking going on???

    • Jeep

      Lost Dog said, “Also, the tea party bunch, bless their hearts, wants to return the government to the people, all 315 million of them. Want confusion, that is the route to go. A strong leader with some common sense is needed.” Platitudes ring hollow from you.

      Let me help you out a little, “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.” – Thomas Jefferson

      He also said, “[The people] are in truth the only legitimate proprietors of the soil and government.”

      I suppose, however, that you would sell your soul and that of your children for a dictator. What America were you raised in? Certainly not an America where freedom, choice and individualism are valued. Perhaps you should avail yourself the opportunity to search for the true meaning of why we call ourselves American’s. Find out why people from around the world strive to come here to escape your kind of thinking.

      Or, maybe you feel more comfortable with these quotes from another famous character?

      “What luck for the rulers that men do not think”, and “It is not truth that matters, but victory” – Hitler

  • Santi

    Doug the statement is GOD BLESS not GOD BLISS. People please read Matthew chapter six verse 25. You need not stock up. This America is not the same as it was before, the laws that people never read is coming soon. It is giving the o lots of power.

  • BrotherPatriot

    To be reiterated…this Nov is going to be in all likelyhood…the most important election cycle in our life times.

    It’s time to end the small percentage elites who think they own/run everything. American’s have woken to the truth of what is going on…and were not going to stand for it anymore. Christine O’donnell is but a clue of what is to come.

    A return to Constitutional thinking…En masse.

    • dan az

      BrotherPatriot
      Thanks to the internet this is true and as long as we have it there will be more awakenings. So they better start packing and add them selves to the unemployment lines.keep the powder dry brother!

  • Larrabee

    The Jackass Party hasn’t had anything sensible to offer since Johnson started the whole Great Society thing that gave away the farm to those who didn’t produce. Build them “project homes” apartment complexes to live in the inner city where they can be subsidized through welfare for not working. (…sorry – is selling drugs working?). Now – let’s invite them to invade us from other countries to de-stabilize our society and economy by overrunning our health care system and our education system and our public services system. All this time the Elephant Party has done little or nothing to counter the OBVIOUS problems leading to the OBVIOUS results, and the “good Americans” have contributed to the situation by NOT VOTING – presuming that the system was still running more or less as it should and their participation was not really required. When only the leftist activists vote and work for voter registration to elect leftist candidates…this is the result you get.

  • http://www.best-discountsnow.com Daniel Hameed

    I read you comments on the regime,and I do agree with mush that you had say, but do you think if any other President other than Obama, wherein the white house, you think it would be any better than it is now?
    I don’t know what you opinion on this is but to me, it would have been the same or even worst than it is right now because when you try playing God, and you began setting up your on regime, other than God’s regime you are going fail every time.What any President has to do when they are elected thy must concentrate on setting on earth the government of God not they own because if they don’t believe me or not, he is going to fail.Travel trough the earth and see the condition of those who came before us how God destroyed them because of their greed that is exactly what is going on across the planet to day the poor are not being taken care of because of one selfish group call the Republicans, the elephant people the rich.The donkey must work hard but eat less. Obama is trying to help the poor people with his donkey struggling up the steep hills but the Republican are right there blocking the way.So God is going to bring America to her knees the got rich by enslaving the people, killing the Indians, polluting the air and the water.Remember Roam, Egypt and other great regimes how God brought them to book for they crimes.All of the presidents of these United States have to answer to God for their crimes in how the treated the poor, the suffering children of other countries, graving mothers and fathers who witness their babies slaughtered by the hands of the greedy ones. I have see on TV.truck loads of children killed by Israel and America, and they do not give a dam about any other people except their own. And theses words are from the Book that so many hate without understanding the Holy Qur’an.Men but wrong their own souls in shutting out Truth of God.To Him will be Their return:Thy have been warned At all times and among all people By choose Apostles of God,whom they Have flouted.The day will come When they will see the majesty,the glory,The goodness,and the justice of God,But they invent fancies and falsehoods,Let not their blasphemies and falsehoods G rive the men of God:for falsehoods And false ones will never prosper. thank you.P.S Tell them that will never prosper until the set up God’s government on earth instead of their own!!

    • S.C.Murf

      First there was Judaism, then Christianity and then the great copier islam. Praise Yahweh God of Abraham

  • tg7357

    Marv says:
    September 20, 2010 at 12:25 pm
    The Iraq war was based on a lie. We cared not one whit about the Iraqi’s condition or about the Afghans until it was a benefit to us to do something about it. You may notice we didn’t step in when Rwanda was devolving into a bloody heap. We couldn’t get anything out of them, so we didn’t care. Sudan offers us no benefit either, so the genocide continues there. Now…if they had some oil~~~~~Rwanda was under the Clinton watch, if I’m not mistaken. And I’m quite sure the Chinese, who at that time and still do consider Africa their private piggy bank, would not have approved American involvment in Africa, and that includes the mess in Dafur and Sudan today. Africa is a ‘hands-off’ contintent to America. And as far as Iraq’s ‘condition’, you need to remember we created Hussein to hold Iran in check:: it failed miserably, but its never to late to correct an error in judgement. And if you are naieve enough to think that wars are declared in anything but the ghost of the ‘truth’ you are truely a simple soul. I don’t know if I should admire your innocence or shake my head at your naievity.

    • Marv

      Feel free to admire me.

      • tg7357

        I don’t admire you at all: I can’t admire people who embrace their own destruction with a smile on their face.

      • Cameron

        I think he meant IGNORANCE, not INNOCENCE. Africa was much more stable and much safer when it was under control by white colonizers. After the governments got turned over to the black inhabitants all hell broke loose because they still have a primitive mindset. We’ve got enough problems dealing w/our American-born blacks w/o borrowing more from Africa. Look what this TRUE “African-American” in the White House has done to us!

    • 45caliber

      tg7357:

      You can expect to see Marv, Thinking, and others in the front of that line. (See comments below.)

    • Angel Wannabe

      Marv, we aren’t the ones who started the war, it was made to appear that way__do some homework!

  • Don

    Robert Hahn, you are so right, this is exactly what needs to happen, how dare this so called prez, get in office without proof and what people let it happen, INVESTIGATE !!!!

    • THINK ABOUT

      How much investigation has been put into those seeking political positions at this time. Doubt much thought has been put into action. If you are referring to Obama, then perhaps we should investigate those who continue to spread untruths such as he is not a citizen, he is muslim and so many others. I firmly believe anyone who continues to declare Obama a muslin is muslim themselves.

      • MSSouth

        Show us the proof!!! That is all we ask. Continue to deny the truth by refusing to show proof is proof of what we believe. Do you still believe in the tooth fairy?

  • alittlespeck
  • Marv

    Dear people who think Bob Livingston is a true Patriot….this is what he is really selling. Alternative medicine, gold, and awesome stock picks that will make you rich!

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    • Marv

      And the “Report” from Eric Dany is $79 per month…was $129!

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Marv,

      You are correct that I recommend for people to consider alternative means of treatment for health issues than those pushed by Big Pharma and the traditional medical establishment. I do this because I believe a better way to deal with health issues is to address what causes ailments as opposed to the traditional methods of just treating—usually medicating—symptoms. You are also correct that I recommend that everyone purchase gold as a means of wealth protection. I also—from time to time—make recommendations on what stocks to purchase. These are my opinions, but they opinions based on years of study and research. You are free to take my advice or ignore it.

      As to the sale of advertising, just like newspapers, television stations and other web sites, we sell advertising to pay the bills. We must maintain a profit to keep bringing this site to you every day. This is the essence of capitalism.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Angel Wannabe

        Well said Bob and thanks!

    • Viktor Leben

      Marv,

      Due to Bob Livingston’s generosity we are privileged to leave our comments on his website. Thank You Bob ! I might be an unemployed moocher, but I appreciate your tolerance of some of my comments !

      One can shop for financial advice. What is it worth ? I think it is worth financial freedom. The name of this website “personal liberty” says much about it’s goals.

      Let’s do a thought experiment. If I pay a financial consultant $4,000 /yr and I reap a profit of $100,000/yr wouldn’t that small $4000 consulting fee be worth it ? Even better, spending a few hundred dollars a year on financial newsletters that can make one smarter, isn’t that a bargain ?

      The price of not getting financially educated is slavery …

      • libertytrain

        Victor – I have to agree with your points on this one -

  • Wally Pieper

    Years ago, Lou Dobbs put the current political picture in perfect focus when he said “the Republican and Democrat political parties are two wings of the same bird”. Our job as Real Americans who believe the words of the Constitution is to hold the feet of every politician who says he/she supports our beliefs is held to that standard, or we apply heat. We Real Americans are no longer sitting on the sidelines. That brave lady last year who got in Spectors face at his “town hall meeting” and bravely announced “You have awakened a sleeping Giant”. Well my friends of the Loony Left, we are awakened and we’re coming after every damn one of you, and when the balance of power swings our way, I for one intend to make the lives of every Communist/Socialist/radical/progressive as miserable as I can. I have the luxury of age working for me (74). Hey Loony Left, take cover, this old guy is coming to get ya’

    Wally Pieper

  • Lorie

    A cowboy named Bud was overseeing his herd in a remote mountainous pasture in California,
    when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced toward him out of a cloud of dust.

    The driver, a young man in a Brioni suit, Gucci shoes, RayBan sunglasses and YSL tie,
    leaned out the window and asked the cowboy,
    “If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, will you give me a calf?”

    Bud looks at the man, obviously a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, “Sure, Why not?”

    The yuppie parks his car,
    whips out his Dell notebook computer,
    connects it to his Cingular RAZR V3 cell phone,
    and surfs to a NASA page on the Internet,
    where he calls up a GPS satellite to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo.

    The young man then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg , Germany.

    Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot that the image has been processed and the data stored.

    He then accesses an MS-SQL database through an ODBC connected Excel spreadsheet with email on his Blackberry and, after a few minutes, receives a response.

    Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet printer, turns to the cowboy and says,

    “You have exactly 1,586 cows and calves.”

    “That’s right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves,” says Bud.

    He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on with amusement as the young man stuffs it into the trunk of his car.

    Then Bud says to the young man,

    “Hey, if I can tell you exactly what your business is, will you give me back my calf?”

    The young man thinks about it for a second and then says, “Okay,why not?”

    “You’re a Congressman for the U.S. Government”, says Bud.

    “Wow! That’s correct,” says the yuppie, “but how did you guess that?”

    “No guessing required.” answered the cowboy.

    “You showed up here even though nobody called you;

    you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked.

    You used millions of dollars worth of equipment trying to show me how much smarter than me you are;

    and you don’t know a thing about how working people make a living – or about cows, for that matter.
    This is a herd of sheep.

    Now give me back my dog.”

    • tg7357

      This was FUNNY!!! You get the ‘Post With The Most’ Award today!!! I loved this!!!

    • dan az

      Lorie
      Thanks I needed that!lol

    • Cameron

      Damn! but you captured the essence of government w/that one!

  • tg7357

    Bob Wire says:
    September 20, 2010 at 1:23 pm
    “So you can knock the Crusades because you don’t have a better argument for blaming Bush and republicans for the Iraq/ Afghanistan war.” Hmm? I think he was saying about the same thing you offer.
    As for “better arguments” to blame 43 and the GOP for “Wars to no Where” There’s so many and it’s been done already. ~ no need to waste the time, it’s history and documented at this point.~~~I repeat: ancient history. I wasn’t the one who brought up the Crusades. But like so many other libs, blaming Bush is also ancient history. We’re facing the ‘here and now’, and the wars in Iraq and Afganistan, good, bad or indifferent, are a reality. Deal with them. Neither of them are going away soon.

    • Marv

      You brought up the Romans.

    • Marv

      And Obama is dealing with them…just not how you would like.

      • tg7357

        Marv says:
        September 20, 2010 at 1:37 pm
        You brought up the Romans.

        Reply
        Marv says:
        September 20, 2010 at 1:40 pm
        And Obama is dealing with them…just not how you would like.~~~
        Thats the first true thing you’ve said so far: I DON’T like how Obama is dealing with Islam. If you bend your neck down far enough an oppressor will either put a yoke on it, or cut your head off.

  • http://www.worldreports.org/news Corey

    Republicans & Democrats are the trap to devide us, yet they are all of
    the same evil agenda.
    We don’t have to fight them at all, cause evil will implode unto itself sooner or later. Ignore these aliens, protest loudly against
    vote fraud in every state, do your own thing, get local only without
    the trap of paper money. Heal each other, trade freely among each other, start trusting your neighbors, life can be so simple.

  • Joan Johnson

    if the fairness doctrine is passed what are ways we can hear the truth at least 50% of America wanted Obama in spite of his obvious muslin name his socialistic views and lack of Christian values and now what does that 50% of America want I want a republic under GOD and not the God obama talked about in his most recent 911 speech. Our nation wasn’t founded under any god who you happen to know but The Only God, Jesus and the Holy spirit. LORD JESUS CHRIST. I am sorry he doesn’t like America and his mentors he grew up under and the minister he placed himself under all those years is a hate monger towards America and Christians.

  • Tom Patriot

    It would do well for everyone in the United States to understand that a Depression is inevitable. We need to understand that what the government has been doing since the Woodrow Wilson era has come to roost and there is no pleasant way out of it. I for one am surprised that the idiots in Washington were able to keep the prime pumped for this long, but the ability to keep it going any longer no matter who is in office is over. This generation needs to understand that this is our war and without leaders with integrity (I know that is a word well lost on the vast majority of our leaders of either party) and honesty chaos and despair is what our children will inherit. Either a Hyperinflationary or a Deflationary Depression is our only choices in the very near future and one is worse than the other. Socialism only prolongs the inevitable and if you know your history at all, you should know that Socialism has never, will never, can never be successful. Socialism does not produce. It never has and it never will. Our war is a war waged against ignorance. Not stupidity, that is a word best saved to describe the leaders of the present and the leaders of many years gone by. Ignorance is simply not knowing; We are faced with a huge population of people that have no idea of what they cry for or of the price they will pay for the things they believe is a governments responsibility to take care of. We are faced with a nation of people who only think of today and who give little to no thought of what tomorrow will look like or what generations to come will have because of their decisions. A depression as unpalatable as it may seem, is the only way to restore our once great nation and to once again find a foundation for freedom and real progress. What we fear the most cannot be prevented. We do however have a say in how it will happen and for how long it will last. We only need to do a few simple things to force the correct type of depression that would allow us to recover and to build again a great nation with lasting prosperity. If we allow our government to hyper inflate our currency, we will never recover. We mind as well just agree to be slaves and leave that to our children as their inheritance. Generations before us gave their very lives in wars which today allow us to have a say in how we will mold the world for future generations. Unfortunately, ignorance has given and continues at an accelerated rate to give our freedom of choice to a government in exchange for creature comforts unearned. In this once great nation, I believe it would be a safe assumption to make the presumption that 1 out of 10,000 people in our country know what Deficit Spending means. I would bet that 1 out of 5000 may have a solid understanding of how our government obtains the money that it re-allocates and I would venture to say that 1 out of 50,000 of our fellow citizens may have an idea of what Fractional Reserving means. I say this not to belittle our citizenry, but to drive home a point that if most of us knew these few simple things, we would not be in the position we are in today. We would be a freer nation and light years ahead of where we sit today.
    The road map to restoring America is very simple and yes for those of us alive today, very painful. The sins of our fathers have come to roost and we must decide if we will follow them down the path to slavery, letting our children inherit serfdom, or if we will stand up as soldiers for freedom as many have done before us with their lives so that we would have the freedom to make these very difficult choices.
    • We must return our currency to a gold standard forever prohibiting our government from ever printing currency that cannot be redeemed by a fixed amount of gold. This one act in and of itself will remove 90% of the problems we face with our government today and will forever keep them in check from ever creating the monumental mess that they have brought us to.
    • Limit the Federal Government to taking care of the National Defense period.
    • Dismantle the Social Security System. I know, woo, woo, woo, I’m going to need that right? Sorry, we need to get rid of it. Pay off the folks that are on it now and the rest of us are going to have to think about our futures and save and plan for it. Social Security is the worst program ever started in this country. Aside from the fact that it mathematically should have never been implemented, it has by and large destroyed the fabric of the American Family. I have paid into Social Security for almost 30 years and like most Americans it’s nice to think that when I retire I have a little something coming back from all I paid in, but to tell you the truth, I would gladly give up every dime I paid in to ensure that my children and their children and generations beyond will live in freedom. To me the dollars lost is so little a sacrifice when I think of the men and women before me that spilled their blood by the sword and gun to ensure that I could even write and post this somewhere for all to read.
    • Band any form of Federal Welfare or bailouts of any kind. That should be a State by State issue and I suggest if States want to put part of their population on the dole, that for every dollar spent on someone in the form of welfare that the recipient work for it maintaining the roadways, parks etc… If people have to earn what they receive, the odds of finding gainful employment increase dramatically.
    In the interest of length, I will stop here. Many of you will think I’m crazy, but there will be a few of you who know these truths and for those who don’t or simply just don’t understand, this is America, pick up a non-fiction book and read.

    • 45caliber

      I can add a few things to your list but I have to take exception to the first one. We cannot go back on a gold standard. There isn’t enough gold to cover the money. And the government no longer has it to back our currency. We need to use something else.

      But:

      Ban all foreign aid EXCEPT what is given by individuals for emergencies such as earthquakes.

      Do away with most of the existing Federal Agencies, such as Welfare, HUD, Education, Homeland Security, etc. Turn it all over to the states – where it was supposed to be in the first place.

      Start selling some of the lands the feds own. They don’t need to buy as they are doing now simply to idle the land.

      Move the UN to some island somewhere – and start using our veto power on anything that comes up in the UN that will harm the US – such as gun control.

      Build our military back up to the levels it had prior to Clinton rather than cutting it.

      Stop illegal immigration (and drugs being brought in) by sealing the borders.

      I can think of others but – in the interest of saving space – …

      • Tom Patriot

        It doesn’t really matter how much Gold is left. Tying the currency to whatever is left not only stops the inflation, but it also shows real quick the amount that the currency has been debauched. If we are going to have a national currency, then we have to peg it to what we really have in our treasury. No matter how much is there. The idea behind Gold as the backing of a currency is because it is limited. The Keynesian theory has proven it’s failure. What else does the Government have in it’s possession that it could peg the currency to? Debt?

        • 45caliber

          Land

        • tg7357

          Oil reserves under Colorado, Alaska and American waters.

          • 45caliber

            I think they already signed those over to the Chinese to get the loans they need now. One reason they don’t want us to drill. The Chinese would object.

          • Tom Patriot

            The Government shouldn’t store our land in order to back a currency. if that was the case, any foreign holder of a green back would be a land owner in our country. Oil reserves? you have no way of knowing how much reserves and then your faced with the problem of using those reserves and devaluing the currency. There is a reason that throughout History and not just ours, that Gold and silver have always been the only real money ever. Gold will always be gold. No matter what you do to it, Melt it, blow it up, break it apart, mix it with other alloys etc… you can always recover it. There is a limited amount of it. Most gold reserves have been mined. You can go to any country with it and exchange it for whatever currency is being used at the fare market price for Gold. There really is no substitute for it. Governments can’t create more of it. The land should belong or be available for purchase to the people with the exception of wild life reserves, and reserves for ecological reasons, i.e. National forests, State parks etc… Oil would be difficult for a private person to store in lieu of holding green backs. The only risk I see to Gold, is the Government usurping it once they too realize that it is the only way to have a stable currency. Just like Roosevelt did when he debauched the currency 50%, inflated our currency equally and transported that inflation to every country holding green backs in their treasury to back their own currency overnight. All with the promise that the US currency could be exchanged for a fix amount of gold. Most people don’t even realize that there wasn’t a currency exchange until then. There is no reason for a currency exchange when your currency is fixed to a set amount of gold. Most of the things that we know as indicators in an economy change. For example, in a free economy were the currency is pegged to a fixed amount of gold, prices do not go up. Just the opposite takes place. The dollar becomes more valuable because it is fixed to a limited measure. People create more wealth by producing more to compete for the same dollar. Contrary to Liberal and Socialist belief, there is no fixed limit to wealth creation, unless of course you socialize the economies. Then of course as history proves, the creation of wealth, or the productivity of a nation grinds to a halt and society becomes dependent on an engine that cannot refuel.

      • Rat Cotton

        Anyone who insists on a “Gold Standard” has no grasp of reality and needs to be countered at all costs. Why not a palladium, irridium, platimun, ruthenium standard or another rare shiny metal? Senseless nonesense once the gold on hand divided by the dollars at float equaled molecules rather than fractions of an ounce. In addition, Nixon got us off of it before the rest of the world redeemed dollars for gold which would be what the Asians would do if we went back to the standard. There is not enough gold. Gold does not spend at Wal Mart. All the gold standard has to offer is a mass movement of gold out of the US. We need gold for gold’s industrial uses not as a coin. I am off to melt down some old gold coins now.

    • victoria b

      Tom Patriot, You have been reading my mind. I have thought on these lines from early adulthood. Even before I became disabled and forced to live on govment handouts. I would give it up in a heartbeat and die from this dreaded disease I face if it meant my grandchildren would live in the free society envisioned by our founders. As it is I do not dare die because how would my grandchildren ever even guess why and how this country was founded. God help me, I want them to know.

    • Jazzman-JAX-FL

      Well Said!!!

  • http://none draper b. gregory

    What an excellent article.Many thanks for the work that must have gone into it.All the best, Draper Gregory

  • Bitter Libertarian

    Put The Obama down and step away from the coolaide…hes merely a puppet.

    If you really want this insanity to stop you must starve it of what it needs most….MONEY & ATTENTION.

  • Bobnip

    I got attacked and called a “Liberal” for posting this prayer. I am a Conservative Writer for Examiner.com This prayer asks God to help us change the direction this Country is headed. I will never apologize for my religious beliefs that some may find a threat. There are those that just don’t get it that God had an intricate part in the formation of this Country. It is unfortunate that some lack the intelligence to understand it’s meaning.

    Father God,

    We pray for our nation. We ask for the shroud of protection against those who wish to destroy the sovereignty of this nation and deliverance from those who wish to inflict bondage on our freedom.

    Lord, we ask for Americans of every race and religion that believe in the precepts defined in our Republic form of government to come together. We pray that those who respect and proclaim these ideals can look beyond our differences and join as one in this cause.

    Father, we ask for forgiveness and wisdom for those individuals in Washington DC that have contributed to the polarity and division that is so destructive to our nation. We ask that Leaders, who are elected to do the will of the people, understand and submit to that duty.

    Father God, we ask for a time of healing; a time of getting back to what our Forefathers had in their minds when they created this union. We ask that those who are consumed with hatred will have a softening of their heart and greater understanding of the damage they cause with that hatred.

    We ask, Oh Lord, for you to bind the hands and will of the enemy. Lord we join in that call saying, “Get thee behind me, Satan!” We pray that the darkness that currently controls this nation can be lifted.

    Father, you have said that if two or more are gathered in your name our prayers will be answered. In the name of Jesus Christ Almighty we pray.

    Amen

    Every ideal of the Tea Party is included in this prayer! If you find it offensive that’s your problem!

    • Marvin Wells

      AMEN Very well put. I embrase your prayer and look forward to it being answered.
      God Bless America!

    • Angel Wannabe

      Amen bobnip, Awesome Prayer, Gods Speed my Friend!

      • Angel Wannabe

        bobnip__another thought provoking prayer, feel free to share!

        This prayer was given by Minister Joe Wright in 1996 prior to A new open session of the Kansas Senate, everyone expected the usual generalities, but instead this is what they heard…..

        HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ASK YOUR FORGIVENESS AND TO SEEK YOUR DIRECTION AND GUIDANCE. WE KNOW YOUR WORD SAYS “WOE TO THOSE WHO CALL EVIL GOOD” BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE’VE DONE.

        WE HAVE LOST SPIRITUAL EQUALIBRIUM AND REVERSED OUR VALUES.

        WE HAVE EXPLOITED THE POOR AND CALLED IT THE LOTTERY.

        WE HAVE REWARDED LAZINESS AND CALLED IT WELFARE.

        WE HAVE KILLED OUR UNBORN AND CALLED IT CHOICE.

        WE HAVE SHOT ABORTIONISTS AND CALLED IT JUSTIFIABLE.

        WE HAVE NEGLECTED TO DISCIPLINE OUR CHILDREN AND WE CALL IT “BUILDING SELF ESTEEM”.

        WE HAVE ABUSED OUR POWER AND CALL IT POLITICS.

        WE HAVE COVETED OUR NEIGHBORS POSSESSIONS AND CALLED IT AMBITION.

        WE HAVE POLLUTED THE AIR WITH PROFANITY AND PORNOGRAPHY AND CALL IT FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.

        WE HAVE RIDICULED THE TIME HONORED VALUES OF OUR FOREFATHERS AND CALLED IT ENLIGHTENMENT.

        SEARCH US, OH GOD, AND KNOW OUR HEARTS TODAY: CLEANSE US FROM EVERY SIN AND SET US FREE, AMEN!

        THE RESPONSE WAS IMMEDIATE. A NUMBER OF LEGISLATORS WALKED OUT DURING THE PRAYER IN PROTEST. IN SIX SHORT WEEKS, CENTRAL CHRISTIAN CHURCH, WHERE REV WRIGHT IS PASTOR, LOGGED MORE THAN 5,000 PHONE CALLS, WITH ONLY 47 OF THE THOSE CALLS REPORTING NEGATIVELY. THE CHURCH HAS BEEN RECEIVING INTERNATIONAL REQUESTS FOR THIS PRAYER FROM INDIA, AFRICA AND KOREA.

        COMMENTATOR PAUL HARVEY NOW DECEASED, AIRED THIS PRAYER ON HIS RADIO PROGRAM, “THE REST OF THE STORY” AND RECEIVED A LARGER RESPONSE TO THIS PROGRAM THAT AT ANY OTHER HE HAS AIRED….

        WITH THE LORDS HELP, MAY THIS PRAYER SWEEP OVER OUR NATION AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY BECOME OUR DESIRE SO THAT WE MAY AGAIN BE CALLED “ONE NATION UNDER GOD”.

        IF WE DON’T STAND FOR SOMETHING, WE WILL FALL FOR EVERYTHING”

        MAY GOD BLESS AMERICA

  • jopa

    What are we in now the eighth or tenth year of the Bush tax cuts and trickle down economics?I really don’t think it is working.It should have been called a bonus for the millionaires and billionaires.You cant start two wars put them on a credit card and cut taxes.This should be self explanatory.

    • Marv

      Finally…someone with some common sense.

    • tg7357

      Can we use your American Express card?

      • Raggs

        You mean the China express card….

        • tg7357

          Hee-hee! My bad! I forgot who supplied the money to bail out everyone!!
          “China Express: don’t go to the Social Revolution without it!!”

          • Rat Cotton

            Great.

  • Marv

    Snopes.com Read the WHOLE article….the beginning is FALSE.

    The Occidental Tourist

    Claim: Recently released records document that Barack Obama received college financial aid in the U.S. as a “foreign student from Indonesia.”

    FALSE

    Example: [Collected via e-mail, April 2009]

    April 1, 2009

    Final Nail In Obamas Lack Of US Citizenship Coffin?

    AP- WASHINGTON D.C. – In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obamas qualifications for the presidency, the group Americans for Freedom of Information has released copies of President Obamas college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obamas detractors have been seeking.

    The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obamas legitimacy and qualification to serve as president. When reached for comment in London, where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue. Meanwhile, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs scoffed at the report stating that this was obviously another attempt by a right-wing conservative group to discredit the president and undermine the administrations efforts to move the country in a new direction.

    Britain’s Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article titled, Obama Eligibility Questioned, leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obamas first official visit to the U.K.

    In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments

    concerning Obamas legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrios case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obamas citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

    Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obamas campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter.

    ORIGINS: One of the avenues of approach taken by “birthers” in their quest to demonstrate that Barack Obama is not eligible to hold the office of President of the United States is to try to demonstrate that, even if he was born in the United States, he gave up his U.S. citizenship somewhere along the way … and if he’s not a U.S. citizen, then he can’t legitimately be President of the United States. Therefore, many birthers have gleefully seized onto the above-cited news report from April 2009, which purports that Barack Obama attended Occidental College in Los Angeles under a scholarship granted only to students of “foreign citizenship.” However, this item isn’t a news report at all — it’s a hoax whose elements are all demonstrably false:
    The article is datelined “April 1, 2009″ and tagged “AP,” signifying it came from the Associated Press news agency. The date is a giveaway to the hoax (it’s April Fool’s Day), and the text of the article does not at all fit the standard Associated Press stylebook guidelines.
    There was no such group as “Americans for Freedom of Information” at the time this article began circulating (although someone has since registered a site using that domain name); in fact, a web site for the then-faux organization was established to poke fun at those who believed it did:
    Read these tiny words very closely: the group Americans for Freedom of Information does not exist, just like the supposed “AP article” you keep cutting and pasting into e-mails to your irritated family does not exist, just like the “Daily Mail article” referenced in the fake “AP article” does not exist. They’re all fabrications. Fakes. Hoaxes. Ask yourself why you’re so eager to believe these obvious fakes. No, really. Really, really ask yourself.
    Barack Obama attended Occidental College in California for two years as an undergraduate from 1979-81 under the name Obama, not Soetoro (the latter is the surname of his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro):
    Jim Tranquada, Occidental’s Director of Communications, said: “Contemporary public documents, such as the 1979-80 freshman ‘Lookbook’ [a guide distributed to incoming freshman] published at the beginning of President Obama’s first year at Occidental, list him as Barack Obama. All of the Occidental alumni I have spoken to from that era (1979-81) who knew him, knew him as Barry Obama.”
    Fulbright scholarships for foreign students are coordinated through the American Indonesian Exchange Foundation (AMINEF), which does not fund Indonesians for undergraduate study in the United States (only for master’s or doctorate programs).
    Barack Obama’s student records from Occidental College remain unreleased. He has not chosen to make them public, nor has any court ordered the school to release them.
    Searches of newspaper archives and electronic news databases shown that neither Britain’s Daily Mail nor any other major UK newspaper published a front-page article entitled “Obama Eligibility Questioned” in 2009, nor did any such newspaper published an article consisting of the text reproduced above.
    Leo Donofrio’s lawsuit challenging Barack Obama’s eligibility for the presidency was denied a hearing by the Supreme Court of New Jersey back in December 2008. It has not been taken up by the U.S. Supreme Court.
    The web site of the United States Justice Foundation includes no report of an “investigation of Obama’s campaign spending,” and the executive director of that organization who is referenced in the e-mail, Gary Kreep, said in response to an inquiry that the e-mail was a hoax.

    • chuck b

      marv

      i would believe barry soetoro before believing snopes on most things. snopes is an ultra left wing website and they do bend the truth. if what you refer to is absolute then why doesn’t the democratic party produce evidence that is legitimate not what you left wing idealist want us to believe. they can’t produce it because it doesn’t exist. the man is a fraud.

      • Angel Wannabe

        chuckb, ABSOLUTELY an ultra leftwing site!!

    • Cameron

      If what-ever-his-name-is refuses to release his academic, birth, or any-and-all other records, there must be a reason, if nothing else than to distract attention from something else. In that case he is even more of a fraud as President & should be impeached, found guilty, & permanently removed from public view.

    • tg7357

      Bottom line: you don’t spend millions of dollars to hide the truth about your education and background unless you have something to hide.
      Wouldn’t YOU be proud if you had a Columbain AND Harvard degree? If you really wanted to inspire kids, wouldn’t your college records and grades be just the ticket? Unless you have something to hide?

  • Paul R

    The gov. just spent 130 million dollars of the tax payers money to destroy 1.3 million rifles from S. Korea. All of the vintage WW 2 M1 style rifles to keep the tax payers from getting them. Sounds like we paid for them twice and still don`t have them!!! I wonder why???

    • Paul R

      Thanks Hillary Clinton.

      • tg7357

        Another victory for the lib left. Thats 1.3 million guns the regime won’t have to worry about being turned on them. I’m sure Hitlery and her handers are just tickled pink.

    • Cameron

      Just before the onset of open hostilities between N & S Korea the US gov’t destroyed hundreds of P-38 Lightening aircraft in S Korea so that they couldn’t be used in case of a war. Politicians are absolutely the LAST people who should be in control during a time of war. American Indian tribes had TWO chiefs. One was in power during a time of peace, and the other, better-known was the “war chief”. That witch Hillary (sorry, the “b” key on my keyboard didn’t work just then) wants to be queen, I mean the first female President, and an armed peasantry isn’t in her future. I would have loved to have had one of those M-1′s, damn her black soul.

      • Rat Cotton

        All these M-1 carbines with full auto capability and each with a 30 round clip to fill would have required the handy work of thousands of gunsmiths and the production of 80 million or more rounds of ammunition because anyone who let off 30 in a burst would have to do it twice. Instead, they were destroyed at a cost. Why so much cost. Could they not be chunked in a Korean mini mill and melted down. Or, just send them to an African nation where they would have been rendered inoperational after a few weeks of killing.

  • 45caliber

    The government wants people who pay taxes. But who pays the least tax? They are already talking about retirees who “take from the system but don’t pay into it anymore.” That’s why they want the death panels, as they are called, so they can cut down the government expenses by allowing the ill elderly to die instead of giving them the medical proceedures they need.

    But there is one other group who pays even less than most retirees. They are the people presently on Welfare who are so pleased at the President now in office. But what do they contribute to the government? Some votes, yes. But no taxes. In fact, they can get paid far more than any tax they can pay when they file income tax forms.

    The Socialist/Marxist government they want assigns jobs, whether you want one or not. Those with less education will get the ones no one wants. And there isn’t a choice about serving. You either work, get sent to “re-education camps” (which have nothing to do with education but a lot to do with concentration), or get shot.

    It is going to be interesting to see who stands in those lines. I expect to see several here in that line.

    • tg7357

      Or, you can go to ground and resist. I hear the woods are lovely this time of years, and there are a bunch of us who know how to live off the land. Quite frankly, I have more in common with my rifle these days than I do with the Federal government.

      • 45caliber

        I suspect we may have to. But those on Welfare are mostly inner city people – who have absolutely no idea of how to survive outside their welfare apartments on welfare money. The best gun they know how to use is a small pistol – and those aren’t very good for hunting.

        (Oh, I forgot crime. They can do that and I expect we would see a lot more of it. But – that can’t easily be shown as an income either.)

        • tg7357

          I got my hiding place picked out. You ?

          • 45caliber

            Yes, indeed. My wife even helped me pick it out. And our kids know where to go too.

  • tg7357

    “the government has been fighting for its economic life. Years of socialist redistribution — theft from the producers to finance the growing State leviathan and unionized public and private sector employees — have caught up.”~~~It appears the writer of this article has been hiding in the bathrooms over in Congress with a notebook and an open mind. He’s certainly pegged our governmnet, and he wasn’t even writing about it in his opening paragraphs.

  • http://yahoo Bob B

    THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF LIE’S PRINTED ABOUT THE CIVIL WAR.THE LIBERAL’S WERE IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THEN. THE SAME TYPE OF POLITICS’S WAS GOING ON THEN AS NOW HISTORY REPEATING IT SELF. THE 13 SOUTHERN STATE’S WERE SUPPORTING 80% OF THE FEDERAL GOV.WHILE THE NORTHERN NEW ENGLAND STATE’S WERE RACKING IN THE MONEY AND PAYING VERY LITTLE TAX’S. ONLY NOW THEY ARE GETTING MOST OF THE EAR MARK’S AND PORK BARREL MONEY OUT OF EVERY BILL PASSED IN CONGRESS.THEY WERE A BUNCH OF CROOK’S THEN AND NOW. IF MID AMERICAN GOT THAT KIND OF MONEY FROM WASHINGTON THEY WOULD BE BOOMING YOU WOULD SEE THING HAPPENING AS NEVER BEFORE. ALL THAT BUNCH WANT’S TO DO IS LINE THERE POCKET’S AND LET A LITTLE TRICKLE DOWN TO THEIR VOTER’S TO STAY IN OFFICE TIL THEY DIE.!!

  • Michael G

    “REVOLUTION”

  • ONTIME

    Obviously this regime is not decaying fast enough for we who are just fed up with the peaking of government size, greed and intrusion…..just keep hammering them folks and they will crumble that much faster.

    RE-PARE AMERICA’S GOVERNMENTS….The fat butts have grown out of their britches.

    • Paul R

      You mean replace?

  • Raggs

    I will stand on my belief that obama will never ever “force” me to purchase his wealth-care… I will fight this even if it means death.

    Screw obama and the jackass pelosi he road in on!

    • Paul R

      Well put!

    • Cameron

      Sorry, but I’d be afraid of getting an incurable STD if I screwed her.

  • Paul R

    We must not let them to continue to remain in power. They just keep hacking away at our rights, no-wander they are the left! The time is N.O.W.

  • Raggs

    Has anyone heard that the Recession is over?

    Of course heir master obama is spouting lies again.
    This freaking jerk is trying to spew more BS of his bail ( buy )- out program has saved the world!

    He ended the recession before it even started….. Wow to you ole masterfull glorifull BS in chief… I praise you for your incompitent BS.

    • tg7357

      Well, yeah, the recession is over in Washington DC. They created enough government jobs to pull the capital economy out of the toilet.
      But the rest of the country? 15% unemployment in Michigan doesn’t ruffle any feathers in DC. Heck, thats clear across the country from Pennsylvania Avenue. Doesn’t bother the elitists in DC.

  • Revolutionary Thought Adjuster

    A truly fine article by Bob Livingston.

    Now we know why George W. Bush nicknamed Karl Rove “Turd Blossom.”

    Before this country crashes, it would be far better now if the United States military preempted the proposed eclipse of our republic, by prosecuting a military coup, to depose the communist regime in Washington.

    The American people may be too highly refined and civilized for open revolt, before it is too late and so the U.S. military should spearhead the Second American Revolution, to deliver the republic back to the people.

    The United States military can also be utilized to go after the assets of the Federal Reserve–along with the stolen wealth of the American people acquired by the international bankers– and return power of the purse to the American people.

    A nation which does not hold its own purse strings, but lives on fiat money and “credit” materialized out of thin air, will soon find that its dearest interests have been bartered away and its people delivered unto vassalage at the hands of the phony storefront of the international bankers; the United Nations.

    The time has clearly come for the United States of America to secede from the “New World Order” of the international bankers and their destructive usury, which enslaves all ostensibly “free” peoples.

    • 45caliber

      Our military is designed to NOT take power every time they don’t like someone in power – as is done by other countries all the time. If you want a revolution here, do it yourself and don’t try to get someone else to do the dirty work for you.

      The main thing our military has agreed to do is NOT take the government side when/if we do revolt.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    What I find most pathetic is that such a regime could be in power here in America the way it is in Greece and other socialist nations. And sadly, if most Americans are moderate to conservative, why would they elect the kind of regime they elected here in 2006 and 2008??…..Well, what’s done is done. Hopefully we can survive BHO, Pelosi and their leftwing Democrap regime for the next 2 ½ years. And hopefully voters will wise up this year and in 2012. Not only that, but let’s hope Americans will never forget this regime. I’ve certainly never forgotten 1976, when the economy was only so-so, and being only 18 years old, I made the mistake of voting for the loser Jimmy Carter. He made a bad situation a lot worse, similar to BHO over the past 20 months!! We need to defeat as many democraps as possible in the next few election cycles. And the GOP needs to get its act together – get rid of RINOs and wimps who too often cower to the leftwing democraps. It’s the best we can hope for – that America never again will never again make the mistake of voting for the kind of leftist regime we now have in Washington. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!

  • GEORGE

    WELL, IT’S NICE TO SEE THAT A FEW OF US CAN TELL THAT THIS OBAMA GUY IS TRYING TO TAKE US ALL DOWN TO THE LEVEL OV THE LOWEST PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY HE CAME FROM. WE NEED TO EMPEACH THIS GUY OR JUST THROW HIS ASS OUT. GIVE HIM BACK TO THE MUSLIMS PELOSI AND HE SHOULD BE PUT IN JAIL TILL WE ”FIND THE MONEY”. HE IS A MUSLIM AND TELLS US THAT WE ARE LIKE THEM. MAYBE YOU ARE AND BELIEVE THAT BULL SHIT HE’S SPEWING WITH A FORKED TOUNG. I SURE AS HELL AIN’T AND N E V E R WILL BE. WHY DID HE HAVE 1 MILLION U.S. ARMY RIFELS DESTROYED.?? IS HE AFRAID OF US, WE, THE PEOPLE ??? WE THE PEOPLE ARE IN CHARGE HERE. HE, REED, AND NANCY GODDA GO,BUT SHE HAS TO LEAVE THAT PLANE. COSTS US,WE THE PEOPLE 5 MILLION PER YEAR FOR HER TO FLY TO SAN FRANCISCO AND D.C.WE SHOULD BUILD ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE NEW MOSK,WHORE HOUSES, VICTORIAS SECRET,NUDE MODELS IN THE WINDOW,LIQUOR STORES AND NIGHT CLUBS. SHOW LOVE AND EXCEPTENCE TO OUR NEW NEIGHBORS,PROSTITUTES WALKING AROUND,OH YEAH, LOTS OD LOVE AND EXCEPTENCE I WILL NEVER BE GOVERNED BY A FANATIC LIKE THIS DUDE FROM KENYA ~~~~~~~~~~~~THROW HIS ASS OUT NOW~~~~~~~

  • charly,florida

    been working hard for most of my 70 years.love the country and the folks of America.now i am afraid for her.

    • 45caliber

      Me, too. And also afraid for my grandkids as well.

      • a progressive nightmare

        me three!

        • tg7357

          I’m with you guys. Its like watching everything you ever worked for crumble right in front of you for no reason. Its a sad state of affairs in our country today, and its going to take us decades to dig out from it.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Ditto!

  • GEORGE

    BY THE WAY, WHERE ARE THOSE SEVENTEEN[ 17 ] PILOTS FROM AFGANASTAN THAT RAN AWAY FROM THE AIR FORCE IN TEXAS ?? WHERE ARE THEY??????? SOMEONE SHOULD ASK THE CLOWN THEY CALL PRESIDENT. MAYBE HE KNOWS. HE DAMN WELL SHOULD. ARE THEY HIDING IN A MOSQUE SOMEWHERE ??. WE SURE AS HELL DONT NEED’UM FLYING ANY AIR PLANES AROUND THE U.S.A. AT ANY TIME FOR ANY SO CALLED REASON THEY WANT TO KILL US. THATS ALREADY A PROVEN FACT. WHERE ARE THESE TERRORESTS ?? WHAT ARE THEY THE GOVERNMENT GONNA DO ABOUT THE MILITARY OFFICER {A MUSLIM}THAT KILLED 13 CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS UNDER HIS COMMAND??? THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC SO WE CAN SEE”WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING” ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS. WE SHOULD FIND THEM THE GOVERNMENT NEVER WILL.I DOUBT IF TEHY ARE EVEN LOOKING FOR THEM MAYBE THESE SOFT HEADED PEOPLE THAT ”VOTED FOR CHANGE” WILL VOTE FOR SOME MORE PRODUCTIVE CHANGE AND WE WILL GET AN AMERICAN SEEING PRESIDENT TO GET US OUT OF THE U.N AND THIS NEW WORLD ORDER BULL SHIT OF THE ”CHOSEN FEW” GET OUR ARMIES OUT OF THOSE “SAND COUNTRIES” AND BACK ON THE BORDERS FROM SAN DIEGO TO 5 MILES SOUTH OF BROWNSVILLE. ”YES WE CAN” STOP ILLEGAL CROSSINGS AND MR “YES WE CAN” SO CALLED BY SOME,PRESIDENT, “OH, YES WE CAN” BY THE WAY “MR YES WE CAN” THAT IS A COMMUNIST SLOGAN AND YOU USE IT IN ALL OF YOUR “YES WE CAN” LESSONS. THAT SLOGAN YOU USE IS ON ALL OF THE RUSSIAN COMMUNIST POSTERS THAT WE SEE. IT’S WRITTEN IN RUIISAN SO WE CAN’T READ IT BUT IN COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA IT SAYS”YES WE CAN” MAYBE YOU CAN MR MUSLIM,BUT”WE THE PEOPLE” CANT ! YA GOT THAT ??

    • dan az

      george
      I would sum what agree with you If only you could stop with the caps on my eyes cant take it if you cant type like I cant then just try leaving that caps off and screw the right way and type anyway you want but dude Im almost blind and your not helping it!

      • JC

        Dan, just a thought…maybe George needs to type in caps so “he” can see it. maybe.

  • Jazzman-JAX-FL

    Everyone is missing the problem. The problem started many decades ago when we allowed non-land owners to vote. If one owned land, presumably you had some sort of common sense (i.e. “brains”). Allowing “simple” people to vote is the issue. When one allows masses of ignorant people to vote, of course one will end up with a faulty selfish system. Can you imagine what would happen if some one tried to make it a law that in order to vote you had to actually be a land owner or at least have at a high school education? We are allowing the future of our county to be decided by idiots, for real! Not just in name as a derogatory label, for real.

    Additionally, by taking God out of our system, you can see the depths of depravity to which we have fallen. Our forefathers we all strong God fearing men. What has happened to that? Why is it that a country that was founded on the precepts of the Christian faith cannot say the name of Jesus or God in the same sentence with ,truth, justice, freedom and government? Because the stupid people don’t want is to!

    You say it not nice to use the word “stupid”? I agree when it is used improperly. You say you only have an opinion and you have a right to it? Yes you do have a right, and it proves that you are stupid. Show me where in any of the historical documents that our forefathers wrote that says you are due free medical, free housing, free big screen TV? The internet is rife with videos and comments from the stupid people touting that since obaba or obama what ever his name or nationality is was elected, “I don’t have to pay my bills anymore!” What rubbish! how stupid, how ignorant!

    I am sick and tired of listening to the stupid people whine about the things you are “owed”. The American People owe you NOTHING. Go out, get a job (yes, the news papers are filled job offers . . . go get one) and pay for the things you want or need and stop demanding that someone give it to you!

    If we do anything, we should study history to find that this large government thing JUST DOES NOT WORK! The government envisioned by our forefathers is the next best thing to the ultimate type of government: A Benevolent Dictatorship! Which is what we will have when Jesus comes to rule! AMEN!

    • tg7357

      Allowing non-landowning people to vote turned this country from a republic to a democracy, which the Founding Fathers warned about. Then you had certain people in the government that decided EVERYONE needed to own a house, whether they could pay for it or not. Then the democracy went spiraling into a mobocracy when the bubble burst and Obama got elected on the ‘chicken in every pot’ platform and that the Gov was gonna save us all. Talk about a Grimm’s Fairy Tale!!

      • Cameron

        Locally our taxes are out of sight because non-land-owners have been breeding like rats & overflowing the public school system, which demands (& can’t be refused) mo’ money to operate. Hence the taxes on land-owners goes up to educate the bastard children of non-land-owners. Yes, only those who will be financially affected by a tax should be allowed to vote on it. Those who would only benefit from a tax could then get off their fat, lazy posteriors & find another way to finance their largess.

        • tg7357

          Thats the reason the Founding Fathers warned America not to allow themselves to degenerate from a Republic. It may sound elitist, but reality is what it is. You hit the nail on the head. There is no reason for anyone in AMerica to want to better themselves and buy land anymore: the Gov hands them everything they want and more when they whine for it. Bread and circuses.

          • Jazzman-JAX-FL

            It’s not elitist. It’s a sound fiscal policy. Why on earth would we change this policy? If it once was, who changed it except for one who the policy already pertained, and what advantage did they receive by changing such a policy?

  • Cameron

    I would like to suggest a theme song for the TEA Party. Elvis’ “Steamroller”. Imagine incumbents sweating when they hear “I’m a steamroller, Baby, & I’m gonna roll all over you!” Talk about music to my ears!

  • http://PersonalLibertyAlerts Randy 131

    A very good article, but take off those rose colored glasses and tell everyone what it’s really going to be like. It’s going to be at least twice as bad as you insinuate and the elections are probably going to be too late and too little to achieve what needs to be done. That last five sentence paragraph will be the key to those who want to survive, and only if they prepare well enough and/or are very lucky as well. Sweet nightmares, they are coming. At least there will be no-one trying to cram gun control down your throat, just those trying to get some.

  • tg7357

    Even if the conservatives take back the House and Senate, they are going to have to put a freeze on EVERYTHING from taxes to energy to foreign policy and take stock of the damage that Hurricane Reid/Pelosi has done to the country. You know as well as I do Obama isn’t going to sit still for that. Senate and House debates are going to degenerate into worse brawls than they are now and still nothing will get done because of all the infighting, plus MORE elections coming up in two more years. It certainly looks bleak for AMerica.

    • Richard Pawley

      A do-nothing Congress would be better than these progressive socialists who think the UN is so wonderful and world socialism so great. We have at Fort Knox, more gold than any other nation on earth, more than 8,000+ tons (261,000,000+ ounces) and yet the Democratic progressive socialist Congress has spent so much since 2006 when they took over that just the DEFICITS – not the debt – JUST THE DEFICITS are greater than all that gold! We are bankrupt as a nation and when this finally sinks in the change is going to be dramatic. I wouldn’t want to live in a city when that happens. There is time enough to prepare but not time to waste. Those who refuse to see the handwriting on the wall are to be pitied. Vote well in November and we might be able to slow this down. I do not believe at this late date we can stop it. Dum spiro spero!

  • Phillip Johnson

    What a great synopsis. the “powers that be” of both parties still fail to grasp what is going on, yet many libertarians, democrats, republicans and independents all grasp the story as you so well explained it. And they are motivated. The constitution means something to all of us and we are ready to stand to be counted and defend that marvelous document. It’s not going to be easy, but it sure will be worth it. Few realize that the worst part of the problem is not the elected officials now living in fear of an aware voting public, but the career government employee. Many are liberal/progressives whom regulate with out any supervision or appreciation for what our country has been and will be again. This crowd must also go, and that will be a toughest task of all.

    • tg7357

      One of the first things that should be made a Constitutional Amendment is term limits. Senators,congressmen and judges. The days of entitlements have to end. Prime examples are Charlie Rangle, Ted Kennedy (gone but still mucking up the government with his whacko idealism from the grave) Harry Reid, Olympia Snowe, and all the others who can’t make it in the real world and think the elected seats they have right now should belong to them forever. The second thing that should be done is strip government employees of their cushy retirement packages, healthcare packages and golden parachutes and put their ‘assests’ out in the street with the rest of us. The third thing that should be done is an investigation of AIG and other Wall Street firms that took bail-out money and shut them down after they cough up the cash they took.

  • http://none Alex

    Once more, you Teabaggers exhibit the very thin line in your polemics—-no answers, no suggestions, just the same old cranky calls of “Marxist” “Socialist” “Muslim” “non-American” blah blah blah….

    I have for some months attmpted to glean from your screeds some REAL ideas and concerns, not the parroting of each others foamy nonsense, but real Fright Wing dialog on the troubles facing our wretched nation. AND ONCE MORE all you people seem capable of is vitriol and pejorative, and by reading your poorly-written and never thought-out sleepwriting it is clear that there is absolutely NO SENSE, no mark of thoughtfulness here.

    The neo-conartists once were able to look to the slimy but well-read and articulate William F. Buckley as a point man for your Nazi ideals, but since his death you poor slobs are stuck with Flush Limpjaw the drug-addict, Sean insHannity the foolish whiner, Ann Coldturd the Man-child in the Promised Land, and the rest of the Joseph Goebbels School of Propaganda at Faux Noose.

    I will check back in a while to see whatever non-sense you fools wish to reply with, but again—you people are just not smart enough to come up with anything meaningful, anything new or enlightening. Like sheep or lemmings, you cretins simply repeat the talking points presented you by morons. HAA!!

    • tg7357

      Speaking if vitrol and perjoratives, I see you’re back again Alex. It was so nice and quiet there for a bit. Had to go get another pep talk from the Frantic Fringe on the left, eh? What set you off this time?
      Is it Rush’s time on talk radio? Keeping you awake at night, is he?

    • Jazzman-JAX-FL

      Alex: I’m new to this website and already I am tired of you. Just how many big words can you actually look up in such a short time? Your comments really added nothing to this form except to call other people bad names which is a sure sign of insecurity and ignorance.

      • tg7357

        I think Alex is really a kid in his basement with his Daddy’s laptop and a dictionary. He brings us his nuggets of wisdom during the commercial breaks on ‘Wheel of Fortune’.

      • 45caliber

        I think he will fit well right between Marv and joda in the line going into the … ah … processor. (See my comments above.)

    • dan az

      Alex
      what exactly did you contribute? where are the ideas that you so guard by name calling?What is your point? have you a clue?Did you come here to just think that you are above all these patriots and dont have to contribute anything of value? We are taking back the lame government that you so proudly destroyed for starters what is it exactly that you proclaim to do?

      • http://none Alex

        To ‘dan az’: To answer your question, among my many ‘contributions’ over the past several months have been pointing out that, in no particular order:

        1.The White Estates of Amerika is THE worst terrorist nation ever due to, among so many horrible things, dropping the atomic bombs on the Japanese civilians. Once again, for those of you unfamiliar with ACTUAL history, Truman’s own White House diaries ADMIT we knew the Japanese were done, that THEY knew further conflict was futile, and wished to sue for Peace. This gives lie to the stupid notion that these twin acts of horror were necessary to “save the lives of hundreds of thousands of G.I.s” that would be lost in an invasion of the Japanese mainland. We simply dropped the bombs on sleeping babies as a show of force to the Soviet Union, a sort of shot-across-the-bow to warn away any post-war actions that bothered piggish us. Look it up.

        2.) We were founded through genocide by people who owned other people.

        3.) To really give lie to the idea that this fat and mean country sends our mercenaries around the globe to “fight for freedom”, just consider that we supported a succession of dictators in Vietnam in order to “maintain their freedom” ALL THE WHILE winking at the Repugnance of South Africa because we loved their gold and diamonds!
        Absolute hypocrisy of unbelievable dimension! As a decorated Marine who watched friends die as my own blood poured out in the Pacific because of the Japanese, even I would NEVER had allowed that!

        4.) WE armed Osama bin Laden.

        5.) WE armed Saddam Hussein.

        6.) This country has NEVER, as Attorney General Eric Holder pointed out, addressed this nation’s “race issues”. That is easy to see as so many people have made inane comments such as, “There is no more racism–we have a Black president.

        That is just a few of my “contributions” for now, dan az; let me know if you would like more.

        • dan az

          alex
          I think you missed the point again!the ones behind the curtain are running this nation!and like 45 stated their are some old history books that havent been changed yet to be politicly corrected.there is always another reason for what they did and look at japan now!

        • Viktor Leben

          Alex,

          You indicated “We” are guilty .. Who the hell are “We” ? Don’t include me with your group ! I didn’t do anything wrong !!! HA HA !

          But seriously Alex, obviously you have given some of these events allot of thought. I think your use of a collective “We” needs to be examined. Someone metaphysically raped your logic ! Please specify what you mean by “We”.

          • http://naver samurai

            Victor, do you actually expect a poor lib like Alex to be able to think? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • 45caliber

      Alex:
      You REALLY need to do some private study before you rattle on like that. It is apparent all your knowledge comes from the left talking heads. Check your local library. They have a lot of good history books.

      • JC

        He’s lost anyway 45. He’s looking for tea baggers and that would be a homosexual website somewhere…

        • dan az

          Gotta love it welcome back JC!lol

  • Jazzman-JAX-FL

    Mr. Livingston: Keep writing! I enjoy your comments. I can only pray that the people out there will see the truth in what you say!

  • tg7357

    Jazzman-JAX-FL says:
    September 20, 2010 at 5:21 pm
    It’s not elitist. It’s a sound fiscal policy. Why on earth would we change this policy? If it once was, who changed it except for one who the policy already pertained, and what advantage did they receive by changing such a policy?~~~In all honesty, I can’t answer that question Jazzman. It was part of an article I was reading the other day about the Constitution. I don’t know if the change of policy came because of the rising poverty at the turn of the century, or because useless political hacks saw an easy ticket to being elected, or maybe both? It could have been triggered by the Sufferage Movement,I can’t tell you.
    But mob rule never works. Those who have nothing to call their own, and know that they can sell their votes and voices for what little they can get, are foolish not to do so. What do they have to loose? But it does open up an interesting line of thought. Does anyone out there know when the republic became a democracy and why?

    • dan az

      tg7357
      when wilson singed on to the federal reserve act I think in 1913 and had regretted it after singing it.Our fore fathers fought against it from the begining.

      • tg7357

        keep going: I’m listening. Was that when the US came off the gold standard, and what did it have to do with the changing from a republic to a democracy, if anything?

        • 45caliber

          The original idea was to PREVENT the government from having a national bank as that would give the government control over the money supply. Supposedly they were only to make the coinage. The banks could issue money based on the money, property, and – of course- the gold they kept in their banks.

          Wilson signed the agreement to start a national bank to give the government the power over the money. I don’t know if that was his intent or simply the intent of those who talked him into it.

          The banks soon learned that they could sell the gold, in particular, to Europe banks for more than it was worth in America. They accepted European coinage – which was swapped with the fed. reserve for more dollars – now paper. When the people found out the banks no longer were covering the money they were handing out with gold in the bank, they made runs on the bank demanding the gold the banks were supposed to be keeping.

          In 1933 FDR called a special session of Congress to stop it – particularly since his own money came from banking. They passed a law making it illegal for anyone to own gold except the government. They also declared bankruptcy of the US and turned ownership of the Fed. Reserve over to four families – the Rosevelts, the Rothchilds (in the Netherlands) and two others. The Rothchilds bought out the other three families so they own it all now.

          I can remember back in the 80′s if I’m right that the government declared that gold no longer backed the currency and began selling it off. I doubt if there is more than a few hundred pounds of it left at Ft. Knox now – it was too much of a temptation to Congress to spend.

          • tg7357

            Yes, I remember part of the article about the creation of the Federal REserve bank, but not the background of how it all came into being. So the creation the FRB and selling of US gold to Europe was what caused the Crash of 29? So Its also safe to say that whoever is the head of the Rothschild family today is one of the many string-puller in our economy that is currently headed for the dumpster again?

          • Tom Patriot

            It was Nixon that completed the act of taking us off the Gold Standard.

          • dan az

            Thanks 45 no one could have explained it better! But I cant believe you forgot IM NOT A CROOK! just kidding!

  • Dexter60

    It’s ok, the dems do not have to support or defend the Constitution nor does the GOP have to support the nations priciples instead of politics as usual — it is just their survival that depnds upon what they do. I have no reason to support either party; as many others, I see their demise as a benefit. Their unified bankrupt philosophy only spells their suicide in any language. Reality upon them, in spades.
    Thse days are a reminder that we must always ask: how these things further the cause of Liberty — all else is just talk.

  • omegaman

    I wonder how many of these posts are written by people who voted this cretin into office?

    • dan az

      Omegaman
      they come sith no facts and leave just as suddenly with the facts that they didnt want!

      • dan az

        sorry that was {with)

    • tg7357

      WEll, I’m going out on a limb here, but I’d almost bet Alex voted for Obama. Just guessing.

      • 45caliber

        Hey, he’s on Welfare. Of course he would!

        • tg7357

          Now, now! Alex doesn’t want to talk to us because we cain’t spell, our punctiation is reel bad, and we’re full of vitriol and perjoratives. How we gonna measure up to his standards if we infer he’s on welfare?
          Or did we imply he was on welfare? Or did we cast aspersions that he was on welfare and impugn his chaaracter?

  • Harold

    Here is a plan…. Get about six (6) platoons of Marines to storm the WH and take the ‘Kenyan’ out in cuffs, then take him in the back yard and set up a firing squad. I’ll volenteer for that detail!!

    Regards, Harold
    Semper Fi..

    • http://none Alex

      Moron non-Marine

    • JC

      A good start.

  • JeffH

    Bob Livingston, you’ve written a very accurate and concise article.

  • Jazzman-JAX-FL

    OK, I found at least part of the Republic / democracy question . . .

    http://www.williampmeyers.org/republic.html

    More important to our democracy-versus-republic debate, the U.S. Constitution left the question of who could vote in elections to each individual state. In most states only white men who owned a certain amount of property could vote. So, on the whole, the first federal government that met in 1789 was a republic with only a fig-leaf of democratic representation. This is what today’s commentators mean when they say America is a republic, not a democracy.

    Fortunately (for the democrats), the early federal government was not very powerful. In state after state it became easier for white males to qualify to vote. And slowly, decade after decade, our republic became a democratic republic.

    At the national level the major steps toward democracy can be marked by amendments to the U.S. Constitution. The Bill of Rights guaranteed limits to the power of the federal government. The Thirteenth Amendment abolished slavery. The Fourteenth Amendment effectively extended the vote to all adult male citizens, including ex-slaves, by penalizing states that did not allow for universal male suffrage. The Fifteenth Amendment explicitly gave the right to vote to former slaves. After the Supreme Court ruled that the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments did not extend suffrage to women, a vigorous campaign for the vote was launched by women, who received the vote through the Nineteenth Amendment in 1920.

    But the main Amendment that tipped the scales from the national government of the United States being a mere republic to being a true representative democracy was the often-overlooked Seventeenth Amendment, which took effect in 1913. Since 1913 the U.S. Senate has been elected directly by the voters, rather than being appointed by the state legislatures. That makes the national government democratic in form, as well as being a republic.

    • tg7357

      I learn something new everyday in these posts! Thanks for the info, Jazzman. Looking at the defintion of the word ‘republic’ I can see where the waters got pretty muddy. “a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote ” opens up a lot of doors that probably should have stayed closed, locked and boarded over. But you did shed some light for me on the subject. Thanks again!

      • http://none Alex

        So, wow, you accept everything you see in print, without investigating for yourself?!? Scary…..

        • JC

          Actually I verify anything that catched my interest…but you Liberal hysterical “Hillary” types always assume the worst about everybody.
          It’s part of what makes you so utterly despicable.

          • dan az

            JC
            you hit that on the head I was going to say that alex is alexa!

    • 45caliber

      The reason the states set it up that way (white men owning property) was because of the Founding Fathers. They set it that way. It was done that way for two reasons: it prevented those who voted from being ordered to vote a certain way (i.e., slaves voting the way their owner told them to vote and workers being ordered by their boss to vote. Women were not originally meant to vote because they would be dominated by their husbands and vote the way he told them to vote. And back then, they were right.) and the fact that the property owners were going to be a lot more careful about allowing the government to buy votes by giving money to the poor.

      So I can’t really say they were wrong. Over the years, though, they kept allowing more and more voting to different groups, such as women and blacks, because the time had come to allow them to vote. Somewhere along the line it was discovered that they could easily buy votes so the idea then was to include as many of those as they could to over power the property owner votes. That actually began after the Civil War when they learned they could get the ex-slaves to vote the way they wanted.

      • tg7357

        And that is very true, all that you said. We have that problem today with voter fraud as well. Wonder how many dead people got their votes counted in the last election? Who says you can’t still reach out and touch someone? LOL

        • Richard Pawley

          I read somewhere that the health care bill that everyone hates so much (or the high taxes and poorer service that is coming with it) passed because of 178 felons voting from prison who elected a comedian to the Democratic Party who was the deciding vote on whether it passed. Don’t know if all this is true but it would not surprise me in the least. The Marxist/Socialist/Progressives will do anything to destroy freedom and remake society in their image. They tried it in Nazi Germany, Lenin and Stalin’s Russia, Mao’s China, and Castro’s Cuba. Castro is still alive and although he ran Cuba for nearly 50 years he says socialism hasn’t worked in Cuba. The truth is it hasn’t worked anywhere. And the Progressives think they can MAKE IT work here! I’d laugh if this wasn’t so tragic.

          • dan az

            Richard Pawley
            Look how well they have done so far!Whats really scary is that they believe it.

  • kittykai

    The Obama administration is already done. Sorry Dems, we gave you a chance and ya’ll blew it. Time to take back the country and attempt to get back on our feet. No more Hope and Change drivel, those are only words.

    • Claire

      Time for third party candidates in office. Teach the Democrats AND the Republicans a lesson.

      • chuck b

        claire

        you might say the tea party candidates are a third party, the rino’s seem to think so, haven’t you noticed how upset they are.

        • Claire

          chuck b–I could get on a “roll” tonight. The RINOs here in town are pathetic. You know what? I think I am going to the next tea party here, and I am going to let them have it. I know I can get some friends to go with me, after all, there is safety in numbers!! We would probably be thrown out! But hey, I will only live once! lol

          • libertytrain

            Oh, I wish I could go with you – what an adventure -

          • Claire

            libertytrain–I wish you could go too. I am going to call all my friends tomorrow evening. I think a “tea party” is coming up soon. They always have it at the capitol building. Hey! My friends and I can make signs!! Geez, I can hardly wait! Gosh it would be something if Kirk or Brady was one of the speakers. I’ll go for sure then! At my age I am ready to rock and roll. lol

          • dan az

            Claire
            Go get em girl!wished I could be there!

          • Claire

            dan az– Wish you could go too!! The more the merrier! Hey, my son is a good artist, maybe I can get him to make the signs. I’ll have to figure out what I want on them! Gosh, it would be great if Kirk would show up. The first thing I would ask him is “Why did you lie about your military service and the military award you received?” And then I would say –”Try to wiggle out of that one.” I would love to see him squirm! Gosh, I am getting mean. I want to see all of them squirm.

          • Claire

            libertytrain–On a serious note- I have not heard anything about a reunion this year. I am going to call Aunt Mickey and Aunt Cora tomorrow night. Aunt Mickey has been sick the past few months. Aunt Cora is my Mother’s sister and she is in her 80s. Aunt Mickey is about the same age. They are the two that always got things going. I will let you know–

          • libertytrain

            I think so many of us have found that renewed spark of sort of patriotic fervor – to protect all that we have known and loved for us and those that come after – it’s our obligation —

          • libertytrain

            Claire – hope all is ok with them – Seems like family is starting to disappear for both of us -

  • BobbyB

    Could someone tell me where I can witness this “Socialism, Communism, Marxism, or whatever TF it is first hand? My taxes are a little lower but that’s about it. There are budget cuts all over the country and they are mostly for “Social” programs which I would assume would be getting more money under a “Socialist” regime. It seems to me that if we were moving toward socialism, the poor would be a lot better off but they’re not. They’re actually worse off and many are joining their ranks daily. Just looking for exmples.

    TY

    • Tom Patriot

      Your actually making the best argument and don’t know it. Taxes are one of the three means for a government to usurp revenue from its subjects. The other two ways our government uses are borrowing, i.e. government bonds, Securities etc… and the creation of currency, i.e. inflation. These other two methods of usurping their revenue are a form of Taxation since any working productive American has to pay for it. Always keep in mind that those are the only 3 ways the government generates the money that it spends. When you see an increase in the CPI (consumer price index) you are paying more for goods and services all because, and only because of inflation. You state that the poor are no better off and in fact there are more each and everyday being added to those ranks. Great observation and one that should tell you we are headed towards socialism and in a big way. The poor are never better off, they are just given the promise of being better off, it buys votes. As time goes on more and more of the productive sector will fall to the non productive sector, i.e. your observation of the poor sector growing. More people are out of work, less revenue for the government which equates to either higher inflation or higher interest eventually as the government attempts to borrow more money from the private sector. it’s like a dog eating its tail, it cannot sustain life after a certain point. You would think that cutting the budget would help. The problem is that the government has borrowed so much, hence the Trillions of dollars in debt accumulated that simply cutting the budget really doesn’t have a positive impact on the economy because of the interest alone on the massive debt. Any congressman/woman, senator, or president with half an education is simply deceiving the American public to think or say otherwise. See, the problem really stems from mixing Politics with Economics. Both are pseudo sciences. When you mix the two, one ends up driving the other, or in other words they become dependent on each other. Politicians think they are smart enough to control a science that is best left to the behaviors of the people and they end up making an ever growing population dependent on them for their lively hood, be it welfare, or working for companies propped up by the government or working directly for an ever growing government. When politics isn’t driving the economy in this situation, then the people who have become dependent on the government start driving the politics. That is were we are today and that is why it is so difficult to make the right changes. Any politician that makes any statement that the government is going to create jobs or take care of the people should be voted out of government. We the American people are responsible for our own lives and livelihood. Not the government! To ask for anything more is to ask for Socialism and an eventual end to life as we have known it since our founding fathers.

  • Tom Patriot

    Victoria B.

    My heart goes out to you! You are a true patriot. People now a day’s either don’t want to make the necessary sacrifices to make the corrections or they just simply do not know. As our children grow up in this environment they know no different. Hopefully, enough people will disconnect from the Matrix in time to make a difference.

    • http://none Alex

      Patriotism is a virus, moron, pushing an agenda simply because you are part of a gramafalloon called “The White estates of Amerika”>

      Do you even realize that the Einsatzgruppen SS gunmen killing Polish children were patriotic? That the Japanese beheading prisoners in the Pacific were being patriotic?

      Like I say, patriotism is a virus—sticking up for something like a piece of cloth or a line arbitrarily drawn across a map is strictly delusional thinking. It has led to billions of deaths over time.

      • Tom Patriot

        Thanks for showing everyone who you really are.

      • Tom Patriot

        I’m sure that many of us even though our opinions differ, almost made the mistake of thinking you had some sort of education. You saved us from that. Thank you!

      • JC

        Those SS Gunmen were “Loyalists” which is a very different thing than an American Patriot…Moron!

      • Viktor Leben

        Alex,

        What does “The White Estates of Amerika” mean ? Actually Alex if you are referring to Richard Amerike then the proper spelling for “America” would be “Amerika”. But if you refering to Amerigo Vespucci “America” would be right.

        Are “The White Estates” a condominium development somewhere in Newfoundland ? Or Canada ? What type of Real Estate are you talking about ?

        Do you “flip houses” for a living ?

  • Robert Berger

    The cause of the current economic problems in Greece and other European countries are much more complex than this rather simplistic article makes them out to be.
    They are not because these countries provide generous benefits for their people. Having a secure safety net for people who are down on their luck is not the same thing as socialism.
    The high taxes in these countries may be something of a burden, but they have a lot of benefits for people who live there.
    For example,you don’t see people who have lost their jobs losing their homes and struggling to support their families and keep their heads above water as is so common in the US.
    In general,people are much more secure throughout their lives than many in America, where it’s very hard for many people to get college,graduate,law or medical degree and to be secure once you have a job.
    You don’t find the economic inequality which is rampant in the US, with a tiny number of superrich, and millions of people who are having a very rough time,and who risk financial disaster if they lose their jobs.
    Of course, these countries are not paradise on earth, and they certainly have their problems. But in some ways, people are much better off living here. Does this mean I’m a Marxist or communist? Of course not.

  • charly,florida

    I don’t know about you guys, sometimes i feel like a stranger in my own country.what with all the different dialects and all.get my drift.

  • da norseman

    When socialism finally dies, it would be like listening to that old commercial, “Plop, plop, fizz, fizz, oh what a relief it is!”

  • Jay

    Kick that aggregiation of crooks to the curb. Then haul
    their sorry butts off to a “holding facility” and closely
    examine their career voting record. Any one who supported
    the Community Reinvestment Act (Carter Administration),
    The Fannie-Freddie cabal (Clinton Admin.), The Tarp,
    Bank and Corporate Bailouts (J.W Bush & Obama) Admins.,
    and finally Obama Care,should be stripped of the lifetime
    bennies and made to refund the last 50% of their gross
    earnings while in politics. All others will be retired
    with the “thanks” of a greatful nation! This also applies
    to the Supreme Court and Cabinet Officers.

    If that doesn’t send the proper message then more drastic
    measures should be empolyed. Never forget folks, they took
    an oath to protect and defend The Constitution and not for
    self dealing and self enrichment.

    Jay

    • Montana Mole

      Hate to put it to you this way, Jay. You’d be lined up in a food line where ever you live right now if the large banks, AIG, GM, GMAC, Bank of America, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, and all the rest had been allowed to fail from the top down. The near complete lack of liquidity would have caused a monetary dessert and was starting to take hold when the first relief came in form of confidence that the US was going to pump money into the world economy rather than see the whole show collapse. Money is now a shell game and confidence scheme. Get used to it. The US government creates money out of thin air by policy and practice. Look up the Federal Reserve and Treasury system along with the discount window, reserve reguirements, and other banking related information on Wikipedia. Learn something.

      I am against the money creation and entitlement programs of the federal government. Note that only the federal government can create money, not the states. However, I am not inclined to make myself believe I live in a country that is financially managed soundly when all the facts point to the opposite. You do not risk a deflationary depression just to satisfy your ideals. I thought at least 3 to 4 trillion was needed the fall of 2008 to cover the problem. I hope I was wrong. Seems I was. My personal financial thinking would have most of the country renting. Also, credit would be net asset based rather that rating based. That would tighten down financial matters to the point where it was in the 1850′s. The great enrichment of the sorry asses would have never occurred. So, be happy the liberals like the Bushes and Reagon ran things because there are some out here who are way way out to the right and just have to put up with the rest of you that still believe in that ole ridden down whore, Democracy and her bastard son, the vote.

      • Mark in LA

        Montana Mole – the collapse didn’t stop until the Fed said it would backup short term borrowings that corporations depend on in this stupid era of cash in the bank being considered foolish by finance people. The collapse was still on even after TARP – which only benefitted Wall Street the banks and not much else. We didn’t need to save Wall Street and the US government in the form of the FDIC could have used the money that went to TARP to reorganize the large banks and sell off their branches and assets to the banks who didn’t engage in this casino. SIPC could have wound down the brokerages without the customers losing anything.

        If that was done the shareholders and bond holders of the brokerages and large banks would have been wiped out, as they should have, and things would have gone on with smaller banks like there should be. Of course, nobody can really know and the “experts” are talking their book as they say on Wall Street so they aren’t reliable sources either.

        • Montana Mole

          FDIC did not have the funds to cover. Also, FDIC has come close to being over streched by small bank busts such as Colonial. Government is the bank, is the FDIC, is the lender for homes, is GM, is many new things now. The banks do not bust out completly now since the government is on standby. Instead, the functioning assets are sold and the losses are covered by government. The last two years has been small time failure. We even sent the bank of Korea 300 million to cover the cost of finishing the Ga. Kia plant and paid our ever loving European buds for their derivative losses. So, we have not been stressed anywhere near the max. If I am incorrect, set me straight.

          • Mark in LA

            Of couse the FDIC didn’t have the funds – the funds should have NOT been given to TARP but should have gone straight to the FDIC and SIPC. Then the insolvent brokerages and banks would have been taken over by FDIC and SIPC. The creditors of the bank holding companies and brokerages could fight in bankruptcy court over the left over carcass after FDIC and SIPC stripped it. The only issue would be how much to pay in excess of the 100,000 in FDIC insured banks and the cash portion of brokerage accounts coverd by SIPC. Many brokerages also brag about their private insurance, that would be stretched as well.

            However, the bottom line is the taxpayer backstopped the economy and the fat cats lost nothing. The taxpayer would still have been the final backstop in my case but a good chunk of the cost would have been born by the people who caused the mess as well as their (admittedly in many cases unaware of what really was going on) investors. However, shouldn’t they take a loss?

          • Mark in LA

            One more thing – remember AIG was in negotiations to pay its counterparties to its CDS 40 cents on the dollar until Bernanke stepped and made them pay 100 cents on the dollar to make sure his buddies at Goldman got theirs. The world would not have ended if those people don’t get every penny back. This happens in bankruptcy all the time.

          • Montana Mole

            Sorry you said Bernake not Paulson.

          • Mark in LA

            I think it was Bernanke who ordered AIG to pay 100 cents on the dollar and not Paulson, but I could be wrong. Bernanke was head of the Fed and Paulson was Secretary of the Treasury and groveled for TARP.

        • Montana Mole

          All those drawn out bankruptcies would have been entertaining in a way. When the big trees fall, the small trees and saplings get crushed. I agree with you that the big money should have taken a stronger jolt. SIPC wouldn’t have worked. Some of the soverign funds such as Norway and whatever Kuwait and Saudi A. call theirs did fall more because of stocks in some cases and credit default swaps in others. Many backed by AIG were covered so far by US. Yes, the old crooked fingered one was a Goldman fellow. He wasn’t from the Gold Creek Coon Hunters Credit Union. He had to have contacts with the larger financial institutions. And, he helped a friend in need and disappeared.
          Fear at the top was in charge. Fear of personal loss. Fear of institutional loss. Fear of national loss. And, fear of worldwide loss. I am thinking that most thought in that order. We are not clear yet. A rising stock market is not necessarily good. A falling dollar sure is not good. Time and the actions of people will determine our fate.
          I have noticed that when these financial big dogs bust out they always show right back up again in a position to make more somewhere else. Trying to think of a good example. The old timer Eddie Rickenbacker comes to mind. Recent ones are too slippery to track. Money is not bad though. I will have all of it I can get.
          Such a complex situation is hard to predict. However, it is tenuous because of its complexity and so can fall apart for the least little reason. We are all entangled now.

        • Montana Mole

          Paulson worked for Goldman Sachs which is what I know. He made a big pile of money there. For that reason, I did not register Bernanke who has always been an academic, in your statement. I think Paulson ordered the full backing of AIG overseas obligations. I am not sure. As head of the fed, Bernanke makes banking policy as you know. Paulson just ran about in a panic promoting policy decisions that he thought would work such as TARP and the banking shake down which included nationalization threats at one time. Paulson at tres. was used to calm the asian lenders to the US. He called China daily. What lies he told would be great to know. The chinese reassured the rest of Asia that would believe them, that would not be the Japanese. A summit had to be called to make them all believe a financial black wall was not in the night road ahead. tim geitner came out of the NY fed which you know. NY and Atl are the two biggest $ amount feds if I am right. The NY fed is the boss of the bunch and has leverage over the others. All this means little in a economic crisis. I do not spell worth a damn and it is getting worse so long.

  • cathy koester

    does anybody remember how Sarah backed McCain and not the Tea Party person running.Why is she given the slip.She is not a TEA PARTY person she is a FRAUD

    • JC

      Makes ya wonder, doesn’t it?

      • Claire

        JC–It certainly makes me wonder. And now the airhead in Delaware? It is getting scary out there. As I said before, we had better be careful and keep on the alert.

  • Mark in LA

    What we need to do is get back to good old fashioned Reaganism:

    Look the other way while corporations use illegals to break unions, then amnesty any illegal with a hand written note saying he was here long enough.

    Eviserate the banking regulators and look the other way while crooks run loose on Wall Street and the Thrift industry leading to the S&L crisis.

    Create phony reports of future worker “shortages” leading to the creation of the H-1B and H2 visa programs.

    Negotiate the Canadian American Free trade agreeement to get around grain price controls to benefit corporations like Kellogg’s, leading to our stupid series of free trade agreements that put American workers last.

    Waste boatloads of money on a bloated defense industry – even though your own security services are telling you the Soviet Union is on the verge of collapse.

    Run the biggest deficits the country has ever seen until Bush II with most of it going to tax cuts for the rich.

    Accelerate the Social Security tax increases put in place by Jimmy Carter to hide the failure of your tax cuts to produce the result promised. Instead of raising the income tax, raise the payroll tax so the rich can keep their tax cuts and in the future when the fund is close to running dry, future Republicans can suggest eliminating SS so the wealthy won’t have to be taxed to fill the hole.

    Expand Affirmative Action and extend “disadvantaged” status to Hasidic Jews (like the 26 year old guy who sold 300 million dollars worth of out of date Chinese ammo to the Afghans, paid for by you) and East Asians (even wonder why all those Patels get loans to buy motels).

    Get 279 servicemen killed in Beirut and to try to make it disappear by invading Grenada later getting more killed in a helicopter crash while failing to find the “endangered” students for two days since the maps were all out of date.

    Hopefully when America is on the trash heap of history we can all look back and thank him.

    • chuck b

      mark in la

      The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009 — it was actually January 3rd 2007.

      The day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives & Senate, the start of the 110th Congress.

      The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

      “For those of you who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is “Bush’s Fault,” think about this:

      January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:

      At the time:
      The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
      The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
      The Unemployment rate was 4.6%
      George Bush’s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!

      Remember the day.

      January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

      The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
      BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

      Thank the Democratic Congress for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOS!

      (BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie – starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy).

      And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac?
      OBAMA

      And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?
      OBAMA with the Democratic Congress

      So when some idiot tries to blame Bush –
      REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007 THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!

      “It’s not that liberals aren’t smart, it’s just that so much of what they know isn’t so.” -Ronald Reagan

      • Mark in LA

        Why does pointing out what a worthless empty suit (just like the Bushes by the way) Reagan was make you a liberal. In fact, do some research and you will find that Reagan was a liberal as well. He just spent like a drunken sailor on wasteful military programs, hardly the definition of conservatism. He brayed alot about conservative themes but then went back to sleep so the people behind the curtain could do what they wished.

        What is it exactly that Reagan conserved? Based on the classical definition, Jimmy carter was more conservative than Reagan. Carter was villified because he wasn’t a lap-dog for Isreal and the neocons like Reagan (who installed them in the executive).

        I have no use for the Demopubs or the Republicrats. I am just smart enough to see through both of them.

        • chuck b

          mark in la

          i don’t believe reagan was a liberal in any sense of the word. he was anti communist and that’s why the democrats hated him so much. do you remember the contra hearings and who was defending the communist? the democratic party of course. the democratic party is full of communist jews whose families immigrated legally and illegally from the soviet union, check out “david axelrod”. “rahm emanual” and they are sitting in the current administration. jimmy carter was the worst president this country has ever seen until barry soetoro came along. so i don’t buy your theory about reagan, in fact he was just the opposite of what you portray.

          • Mark in LA

            Funny you bring Jews and communists into this. Reagan was thoroughly Judiafied when he was in Hollywood groveling for B movie parts and cigarette commercial gigs. He was the toe-hold that the neocons used to get into the government. The neocons – who came from those Eastern Europen Jews and who identified with the communists until the Soviet Union went pro-Arab. Go look at David Horowitz. Ever hear of the term “red diaper baby” – there are plenty of them in the neocons.

        • Mack

          Att: “Mark in LA”
          After reading your post I wouldn’t say you are that smart!

          • Mark in LA

            Well Mack maybe you could actually spend some time researching these facts and you would see they are true. But to do that would require more than an 8th grade education and Hannity, Beck, or Rush haven’t told you what to think yet.

      • Rat Cotton

        Yep Yep Fannie and Freddie were created to make sure that everyone who didn’t have the means to own a home could own one anyway, a very Democentric idea. Both were supposed to smooth the home mortgage market with liquidity. Maybe a bit too much liquidity.

        • Mark in LA

          Funny that Fannie and Freddie were making loans since the 1930′s and nothing went wrong until Bush got in. The collapse came because Wall Street was competing with Freddie and Fannie. You might not understand this but more competition ALWAYS results in lower standards. The addition of Wall Street money meant that you had to accept lower quality borrowers or get out of the business.

          Everybody always waits for the other guy to get out first so they can go back to making money easily – of course it never happens.

          • Montana Mole

            Fierce competition leads to low or negative margins and survival of the cash loaded which in this case is the US government. I will not argue against any senario you put out there for the collapse. I am just saying that implementing high risk deflationary moves is more subject to chaos in the streets than the inflationary route.

            Banks have been around a long time. Lending practices and money management at a bank do differ from the Wall Street practices. The law that allowed investment banks and lending banks to be the one and the same ( passed in the 1990′s under Clinton sorry I forget the name of the act, may have overturned Glass Stegeal) may have fuel the problem. But, a liberal lending policy of rapidly rising appraisals and money to cover them with a low reserve added to the problem. Nobody forced the banks to lend and nobody was forced to buy mortgae backed securities.

          • Mark in LA

            Montana my point is that all these know-nothings who want to blame the Democrats or Fannie and Freddie because they heard Michelle Bachman say it don’t have clue as to what really happens in a so-called free market.

            At one time F&F were the only game in town buying mortages. They set high standards and mortgages seldom went into default. When they did, the margins from the other mortgages in the pool were enough so that F&F bonds never had to default. Enter private mortgage brokers and Wall Street. They realize that there is a market for less than prime borrowers. They just charge more to adjust for the extra risk. They are making even more money on these Alt-A loans and go one step further and create sub-prime loans.

            The addition of all these previous locked out borrowers increases demand for housing and the prices rise. This also masks the risk of default since rising prices mean the lenders won’t lose money on a forclosure. This makes the it appear that risky lending is even less risky as money is made on forclosures. Everybody is making money on fees and the high turnover of the money as investors gobble up the private mortgage back bonds.

            All of this is masking the reality that standards have slid in order to make as many mortgages as fast as possible. This is the same phenomena that occured in the LBO mania in the 1980′s. As long as Drexel was the only game in town, Milken could pick and choose his clients. His bond holders got solid companies with good management and the companies got funds not previously available to them.

            F&F were not to blame they entered the sub-prime market late and were only about 20% of it. Market forces and too many players were to blame and a regulatory agency unwilling to see the problem or do anything about it because they were lazy or so in love with their free market idiology that they were blind to logic any 10th grader should be able to see.

          • chuck b

            mark in la

            it was clinton who pressured fannie & freedie to lower the credit standards on home loans. and when frank and dodd got involved they were the culprits that put the home mortgage co’s in a tailspin. this all started in 2007. barry and company have been a disaster for this country.
            getting back to reagan, he never cohorted with the communist jews in hollywood. when he was head of the screen actors guild he tried to reverse the communist hold on that union and always ran on a anti communist platform, that was one reason he quit the democratic party.

      • dan az

        chuck b
        wow thanks for that! this is what they hate the most (FACTS) just dosent get better then that!

  • Bob Wire

    no sir! Reagan broke the union back ~ your view is a short one.

  • http://Yahoo.com Victor

    All you people complaining about the President are Knitwits.
    Face the facts and stop being brainwashed by the Special Interest Groups, the Republicans who are all brainwahsed by Special intersts, Drug companies , Insurance Companies, etc. who are putting out millions to brainwash you so they can continue to make their enormous profits.
    Tade the fact that the Republicans left the President with the large deficit. And face the fact that the econony cannot be fixed overnight. And face the fact that that in order to improve the money it is necessary to spend money. Ignorant to complain that it will put our country into more debt. The county is operating now with Trillion dollars of debt and it will operate with increasing the debt to immprove the economy. So , it is no be deal to cry about more debt. As it stands you and nobody else running the government can get rid of our debt. Face the facts. It may take 20 years or longer to liquidize our debt. And it never may be liquided and we have a balanced budget. You all are idiots claiming the President as being a communist by passing the Health Care Bill. Why don*t you holler about the Social Security being communist also? You ignorants would rather have millionns of people left uninsured.
    The Preidents was left with more problems than any other President, and he has done well . You just aren*t giving him credit where credit is due. Your poisoned minds just want you to critize and refuse to cooperate. Wake up and get on the Right Track. Use your own mind instead of the Lobbyists,etc. All they want is more of your money and their money is brainwashing you. You have no mind of your own. Sad state of affairs. All of you can keep crying because you don*t know any better. And any of you who believe in Sarah Palin and the Tea Party activists paid of by Lobbyists,etc. are also on the wrong track. We need to spend money in the right places like the Preident is trying to do in order in create more jobs, etc. To hell with you crying that it will increase our debt. That really doesn*t matter. The Gov*t always operates regaardless of how much debt we are in.

    • chuck b

      victor

      you should study the facts instead of repeating lame democratic talking points. the democratic congress along with a not too bright president ran this country into the ground starting in 2007. check the congressional voting record, check the voting record of your messiah while he was in the senate, then if you believe in what you say then i can only say i would be careful in calling anyone a nitwit.

    • Richard Pawley

      Well, excessive government debt may not concern you but it will concern those who will find the price of food and all imported goods TRIPLED! I only hope it doesn’t get worse than that and unless we can turn this ship of state around it will get much worse. I’m not saying I believe food prices will triple, I am totally convinced this will be the inevitability of all the trillions Congress has wasted so far. It just takes time to work its way through the system. Recall the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results and that is what the government continues to do. Governments don’t create jobs by spending money, they take it away form the private sector who create REAL JOBS (OK, the government creates a few jobs, part time census takers, and they pad all the bureaucracies but they don’t produce anything that can be sold at a profit. All they can do is consume. FDR did the same thing. Create make-shift jobs. It fed people back then but at the same time he poured milk in the streets and slaughtered animals that could have been food. The Great Depression only existed in this country, not elsewhere. There are those who swear that FDR saved the country but he needed WWII to do it. (Growing up I knew an elderly German lady who swore that Hitler did the same for Germany). In any event we weren’t broke in 1930 (the nation) but we are today. Whereas the country had practically no debt then, today we owe more than any nation on earth has ever owed and what fool is going to lend us more money to squander? It’s why the rich are buying gold, silver, farmland and non-perishable food or leaving the country. All this squandering of money by Congress is going to cost us all dearly. In some states they even tax food, and 40 million are already dependent on food stamps. I haven’t said it before but they could starve in the future and Hilary Clinton would like us to be defenseless and unable to own a gun so we can protect our families when it all hits the fan. The last time I fired a gun was in basic training 50 years ago and I never owned one but I purchased a shotgun because a baseball bat just isn’t enough. After 50 years of socialism in Cuba the average salary is about $20 a month and food is almost free. Well, that’s better than starving and this is what we are voting to create here? A workers paradise? Some seem to want to crash the system so they can remake a New United States with a watered down Constitution and European style socialism but most Americans don’t want this. Eliminate the rich and there will be no middle class and we can all be like Cuba. If even the Godfather of the Democratic Party, Multi-Billionaire George Soros has sold off hundreds of millions of dollars worth of stocks and purchased a third of a billion dollars worth of gold one can figure out that he expects that the government squandering of trillions is going to cause big inflation, devaluing the dollar and causing gold to skyrocket. He’s no dummy and probably a major player in the move towards world governance. What we need here is for government to get out of the way and quit competing with the private sector. We are living in interesting times and the next thirty six months are going to be awesome, the coming decade even more so. It’s why I called it “The Last Days of the Late Great United States, and the Great Famine that Followed!”

    • Mack

      Victor,
      It’s obvious you are not brain-washed, your brain is really MUDDY! I think you are smoking Wacky-Tobaccy, you need to lighten up and see the truth. Also you might want re-read your post before you call other people brainwashed. I notice your spelling and thought process gets worse & worse the longer you rant on. Obama has now taken over Jimmy Carters spot as the worst President since Woodrow Wilson!

  • Montana Mole

    What we need is a killer plague to get rid of all you loonies. I will take my chances with the plague if I have a good chance of getting rid of the majority of Internet posters and the raggity ass masses. Collective IQ and knowledge is very low. Over half the reply comments are against an idea that was not the idea proposed in the orginal comment. A bunch of snakes striking at movement in the dark.

    • Claire

      Montana Mole– I am sorry you are unhappy. However, be careful what you think the people on this site need—if a person wishes something terrible to happen upon another person–sooner or later it always backfires.
      BTW–I love Montana. Wonderful country.

      • Montana Mole

        I live in red lodge. Mice out here have a hunta type virus thing going. Best not come out here again. Spread the word. Montana is already overpopulated especially with people from out of state. Ted T. counts as 100,000.

  • http://gmail i41

    Mark in LA, the grain price crap was put into effect by Omoron light, FDR and his communist SWc. of Ag. More government involve gets more intense in land ownership by the federal government with every socialist democrat. Paying welfare rats to either breed and crank out spawn or welfare for landowners to do nothing, raise nothing and let wildlife grow so the landownercan double dip and get paid for wildlife. Victor you are a repugnant dumb ass,SS is a communist designed plan, take something from the productive people and give it the screw offs behind you. If the SS was mine or your that would be one thing but socialist dumbocraps tax savings they tax productive people and are always not paying their share of anything. As for lobbiests , Onumnutts has more questionable domestic terrorists around him than a bunck of prison thugs in prison. He is a f–king marxist muslim moron. He has never had an honest job just government taxpayer fnded organization with eduction usung someone elses money.

    • 45caliber

      The feds spend almost enough money every year (up until Oblama anyway) buying more land that they could almost balance the budget by not buying. I fail to see the reason they need to buy the land.

  • http://Yahoo.com Victor

    Chuck B

    You are crazy as can be. I know what the facts are. You don*t. You are just brainwashed by others. You are dead wrong about the Democrats running the country into the ground. The Republicans are the ones and Pres Obama inherited all their mismanagement.

    • Denniso

      Amazing, isn’t it??? Obama hasn’t been in office for 2 yrs and they think he has sent the country to hell…I guess they think he’s a superman who can take over the whole world singlehandedly.

      Obama came in to office AFTER the collapse that started w/ Cheny/Bush in power, after 7 yrs of their ineptitude…and Obama is to blame for the whole mess.

      They also forget that the economy is slowly improving, the stock market is up 65% from it’s low of 6700. What are the screaming Repubs going to say when the economy is humming along in a year or 2? That the actions of Obama didn’t work?

      • Richard Pawley

        The Democrats have controlled Congress and the spending for the past four years, not the Republicans. If the economy is improving how come there are five people for every job? How come we have so many homeless and yet there are 18.9 million empty houses? How come Congress is trying to sneak through a law making millions of new citizens so they can vote Democratic and yet they won’t lift a finger to stop the 40 million more that Think Tanks have said will come once that is done? The same Think Tanks said that 10 million more would come back in the 1980′s if the 3,000,000 then were made into instant citizens but we didn’t listen then either. Of course they underestimated it. Our nation is so far in debt it will be impossible to pay, even with inflation. and it was the Democratic Congress that has gotten us there. I just say the science fiction movie SOYLENT GREEN again last week and I noted that a small jar of strawberry jam cost $150 in 2022 and it occurred to me that that may have just been a lucky guess. My sources say food will be the best gift to give or receive within three years. I hope they are wrong but I will soon stop writing here because to many are not interested in learning and I wonder how many are preparing for the really hard times ahead. Of course some are getting 99 weeks of unemployment and that is costing the taxpayers a million dollars a day in tax for the next 62 years to pay back just so they could have another six month vacation. If I were and advisor to Obama I’d tell him to stop fooling around and find people who can fix the economy. If something doesn’t work, find something that will. Don’t keep doing the same thing over and over, hoping it will someday work. The stock market, by the way is no indicator of the true economy. The owners of the Federal Reserve admitted a few years back that they had developed computer software which could control the market, make it go up and down. They said they would never use it (Ha Ha) but they admitted they had it, when it was stolen. Those who have studied such things say the major trading is done by computer in the seconds around closing time and apparently there is evidence that the market is still being manipulated. “Pay no attention to the man behind the screen” said the voice in the Wizard of Oz. Well we have our own wizard and he owns Shadowgovernmentstatistics.com and he says that real unemployent is around 18+ percent. There are now more than 25 million out of work, if you consider all who have given up looking. We have 40 million on food stamps the highest number ever recorded and the government is just printing money to pay for it all. Obama is inexperienced and he has surrounded himself with inexperienced people. He’s never held any thing but government type jobs and he is a product of his environment, raised by socialists and communists, and attending a Muslim school in his formative years. He said that he was going to change our government but we didn’t listen. His wife said they needed to change our history and our traditions but we didn’t believe her. Now, all of a sudden when he is trying to do all this people are starting to take him seriously. Well, you haven’t seen anything yet! If Congress suceeds in passing all of Obama’s plan for change you will not even recognize the United States of America. Look up the designs for the new currency, the new tens and twenties, the look like computerized coupons, not money. Oh, well, that’s all they are. Wish I was a banker so they could print me 40 million or so.

        • Denniso

          The stock market is up and slowly approaching it’s high before the crash. There is no panic in the streets and boardrooms like there was in ’08. We’ve reached a stable plateau economically and hiring and consumption are both picking up. What do you expect, a miracle or magic? After the biggest crash since ’29??? Think and reason a little.

      • Vicki

        Denniso writes:
        “I guess they think he’s a superman who can take over the whole world singlehandedly”

        We do not think he is. We know. He said so.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vws9fTtQgz4

      • Vicki

        Denniso writes:
        “Obama came in to office AFTER the collapse that started w/ Cheny/Bush in power, after 7 yrs of their ineptitude…and Obama is to blame for the whole mess.”

        You guys are always blaming Bush for the actons of a DEMOCRAT Congress so why can’t we blame Obama for the actions of a DEMOCRAT Congress?

        Oh and I noticed (like a lot of others) that it was the Republicans who tried in 2004 or so to warn of the collapse.

        It was the Democrats who were in power and passed the first bailout in 2008. And the 2nd in 2009 and third and forth… We also notice that Obama had no trouble voting for the first one and signing the rest.

        http://www.youdecidepolitics.com/2008/10/01/obama-mccain-both-vote-yes-on-senate-bailout-bill/

        • Vicki

          Notice it was bush who tried during those “7 years of ineptitude” to get CONGRESS to investigate and deal with the problem for which TARP was eventually passed.

          Here is a link to backup this assertion.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

          • Denniso

            Your ‘facts’ are all wrong…please look them up before you base your eroneous conclusions on them.

          • Vicki

            Denniso says:
            “Your ‘facts’ are all wrong…please look them up before you base your eroneous conclusions on them.”

            Interesting. Denniso are you one of our representatives? You know. The ones who don’t read the bills you vote on? Not only did I look them up I even provided links to them.

            Reading. Its Fundamental. (well at least watching since some links I submit are videos of democrats saying the darnedest things. :) )

    • chuck b

      victor

      since you know the facts, why don’t you tell barry, he’s in big trouble and about to lose his power come november. apparently you are the only demo that knows what’s going on.

      • http://Yahoo.com Victor

        Chuck
        Goes to show you how smart you are. I am not a Democrat. I am a Republican, but I am against their policies at this time because I use my own mind as what is right or wrong for the country and you and all the brainwashed Republicans by Lobbyists don*t have a mind of their own. You base your opinions on what you read or hear other brainwashed people spill out to you and gullible you believe in them and use their minds. Not your own

        • Denniso

          I’m glad to hear a thinking Republican…they’re becoming more scarce w/ the purists driving many out of the party.

  • Richard Pawley

    Facts are like history (lies agreed upon). I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. President’s come and president’s go, and they only propose bills, rules, new give-aways or higher taxes. It is Congress who stays on forever until we send them home to a rich retirement, and it is Congress who passes all these laws, rules, taxes, and more. We must replace them or it will be more of the same. It is not the Democrats and it is not the Republicans. It is all of them.

  • DaveM

    Victor,

    Obama did inherit a warped view of economics, I will grant you that. Spending trillions of dollars bailing out banks and insurance companies is just as warped if not more. Obama could have said NO to the bailouts. It has cost three times as much to bail out the corrupt banks as it would have cost to bail out the homeowners due to the derivitave’s market. If anyone was bought and paid for it has got to be this admistration.

    Guys like Ron Paul are needed. He actually knows how economies work. Bush, who was a very amiable person, was over his head when it comes to what was happening. Look what is happening recently, the Republicans are rejecting the “chosen elite” and running candidates that the people want. Ahh… it is all for nothing anyway. The fiat/fractional reserve banking sytem will collapse within 2 years.

  • Viktor Leben

    Victor,

    You’re nuts !

    But at least you correctly spell your name with a “c” and not a “k” !

  • Dean B

    The author of this article got as close to my sentiments as possible, as if I wrote it myself. I’m tired of Washington D.C. deciding what to do with my money, YES, MY MONEY, with no concern for my what I think of believe should be done. And then they want more money on top of what they are already taking. We The People are tired and I, for one, am in a “throw em out” mood like never before. “Them” is anyone that sits in Washington for their selfish interests, democrat, independant or republican.

  • Dean B

    The author of this article got as close to my sentiments as possible, as if I wrote it myself. I’m tired of Washington D.C. deciding what to do with my money, YES, MY MONEY, with no concern for what I think or believe should be done. And then they want more money on top of what they are already taking. We The People are tired and I, for one, am in a “throw em out” mood like never before. By the way, if “Them” doesn’t know who they are, they are anyone that sits in Washington for their selfish interests, power and money, democrat, independant or republican. Charles Colson was right on when he said “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely”. Washington stinks of corruption and yet they have sit in judgement of other countries like Iraq and Afghanistan and say that democracy will not work there until the corruption in those governments is cleaned up. Hey Washinton D.C. look in the mirror.

  • John H.

    I agree with most of what was written in the article. I have met people like Deniso and they thrive on this kind of attention and verbal combat. Just ignor him and put your energy into getting fiscal conservatives and constitutionalists elected. Ride the fire! Watch the rats run!

  • Claire

    We can blame the Democrats, the Republicans, anyone we want to blame. Just watch out who you vote for come November. With some of the idiots that are winning primaries we may very well be in for a rude awakening. What in the world ever happened to common sense? I can’t believe some of the stuff that comes out of their mouths. Some of them are going to have to prove to me that they have a brain. I am
    re-thinking a lot of things lately. I am not very pleased with any of them. I am worried for America.

  • LK

    This is truly frightening …

    Do you people really believe this shit or just write it for fun? … I came to America from a Communist country to be free and be able to express my thoughts. The way you all through around COMMIE/PINKO/SOCIALIST and NEW WORLD ORDER it seems to me that you are a most provincial bunch. You know something? There is a big world out there of 6 billion people who are moving forward with or without you all and they don’t get bogged down stupid self-serving rhetoric. I feel sorry for my children because they will inherit a backward nation that is turning into a third world nation because of the isolationism and reactionary conservatism dragging us down.

    We need to work together and communicate to solve the issues facing this nation and not name calling and nay saying that is being practiced by the right today.

    I want my children to have a better future, to leave them a country they can prosper in and live productive happy lives. The real issues facing us are ENERGY, RESOURCES, EDUCATION, HEALTHCARE.

    • Denniso

      The reactionary mentality of most here and most of the tea party folks is scary for the country…my bet though, is that they are going too far and the middle Americans will reject them…in a year we will have forgotten about them. Good luck and fight for a more positive course for this country.

  • THINK ABOUT

    DaveM, it was not Obama who bailed out the banks, he was not president at the time of the bank bailouts. It was not Obama who signed the final bill on bank bailouts. Also it was not trillions of dollars and added to what we already had not been paying for several years. Two wars and not paying for tax cuts did not help any.

    • Denniso

      Most Repubs are war mongers so they don’t count the money or bodies wasted on war,even illegal preemptive wars and wars their prez starts
      but doesn’t finish. Most of the war mongers never outgrew their childhood love of bombs and big shiny guns. they accept the death,destruction and financial waste so they can live vicariously through the soldiers and fighterplanes doing the actual killing and maiming.

      • Vicki

        Interesting that with a Democrat House, a Democrat Senate with almost filibuster proof majority and a Democrat President those wars are still going on. So are we to believe that Democrats are all that weak that a few Republicans can force all those Democrats to war? Such power.

    • Vicki

      Last time I checked (earlier today) Obama DID vote for TARP. It is CONGRESS who controls the purse and Obama was IN the Congress at the time. And of course Obama DID sign the bailouts during his administration.

  • Jerryo

    We’ve got to get rid Obama and other progressives like Bush…
    The tea party will bring up good candidates but don’t let them stay in too long. I think one term is enough for anyone, and with the electronics we have today, we shouldn’t be sending them way out of our sight to Washington D.C. either. They could all be on line with their discussions all on line for all to see.

  • Rick

    I noticed that Obama, at the Newseum meeting, kept saying “I” am not
    going to give tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans. I have been
    laboring under the mistaken idea that Congress had that authority, not
    a Hugo Chavez type of dictator. Obama must be planning some type of
    coup to declare himself the emporer or dictator. If we don’t turn this
    trend around on November 2, we are doomed to fail.

  • Stephen Nicholson

    Never send a boy to do a man’s job.

    A man knows the difference between “theory” and facts”, between theories and applications into reality !

    He was never in any “position” long enuf for the tail to catch up with the dog.

    Why “sealed” records of the past?

  • jopa

    Does anyone ever think about the Bush tax increase that will never expire.Oil was $35 a barrel when he took office and now it is $80 and rising.Just imagine how much of a hero he is to big oil by more than doubling their profits.Where are the Bush crooks today counting their fortunes. Be nice to tax some of that ill gotten gain that cost the US treasury and over one hundred thousand lives.

  • Joe

    Obama and his Corporatist Democrat cohorts???? Are you kidding me. For 8 years George W Bush and his elitist friends did nothing but kneel and bow before Coprpate America. Now you call Obama and the Democrats Corporatist? Apparently, your blinders are on so tight you cannot see the forests for the trees. Wake up all you American citizens (if you got the kahunas).

    • Mick

      Joe says:
      September 23, 2010 at 3:11 am
      Obama and his Corporatist Democrat cohorts???? Are you kidding me. For 8 years George W Bush and his elitist friends did nothing but kneel and bow before Coprpate America. Now you call Obama and the Democrats Corporatist? Apparently, your blinders are on so tight you cannot see the forests for the trees. Wake up all you American citizens (if you got the kahunas).
      ***********************************
      Joe…………it looks like your blinders are off just because you’re in total darkness..
      Our government has been screwed up for many years now and this crap about balance has created a monster.
      The democrats have been attempting to destroy the moral values of this country for decades, rewarding the crud by punishing the honest people footing the bills and the republicans have gone along with this charade to show cooperation,,
      To hell with this political correctness and so called harmony, America is in deep trouble and the only thing we can do to save it will be to bring back discipline, honesty and severe punishment for all criminals and that will definitely include many of our politicians…

      • Denniso

        It’s really pretty simple…the Repub party is fundamentally the party
        of corporate America and big business in general. Along w/ that goes their support of the military industrial complex, because they favor
        military solutions over diplomacy and big biz is of course into weapon production.
        The Dem party is a hodgepodge of diverse people…minorities,gays,the poor,working people,intellectuals,pacifists,environmentalists,civil rights groups,women’s rights groups…which is why the Dems always have a harder time sticking together than the much more homogeneous
        Repub party,which has so little diversity and is mostly white.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          You are so wrong. The republicans are not all white as you say. Rather, the ultra filthy rich white people are the democrats, and I know it, you know it, and God knows it. So stop your lying, and get a grip on reality. And Obama is half white, so does color really matter, except to a racist like you? I mean, why would you bring color up, if not for being a racist. I dont see in colors, and God doesnt either. So why do you? Hmmm, could it be an agenda you are trying to push to tell yourself your not a racist? Me thinks so.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I agree in part on what you said about the Republicans going along with the democrats. Im tired of them trying to work together with the democrats, the so called, “reach across the aisle” thing, because the democrats will not reciprocate, and they lash out and strike like vipers constantly. Rather, I would rather have the Republicans distance themselves far, far from the democrats, and refuse to give in to them on anything. It is clear the dems are all for social agencies and for pushing their immoral liberal agenda and forced health care upon the majority who do not want them. And they dont care. They will go behind closed doors and do what they want, and that is dangerous. It is evident that they are all leaving office soon, and the sooner, the better for us all. I can only hope the Republicans have learned not to deal with these lepers, and to turn away from them, and get spending under control, something they also failed miserable at under Bush, which is the one thing he did that really ticked me off, not controlling spending. I expected them to do so, but it didnt happen. But unlike a democrat, I am willing to admit when my guys make mistakes. You wont get that from the left. They think of themselves as infallible. Have you ever heard denniso say one bad thing about the democrats? No, and it isnt going to happen. They push their agenda, whether right or wrong, and they dont care. That is the bottom line. They dont care.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    If the government took the time to look things over, run the thing as a business and not as a social hand out center, things would be much better for all of us. Mitch Daniels in Indiana understands business, and our state is one of the few in the plus category. Of course all the state democrats want to take that money and blow it all, and create social organizations with it, which is why a lot of states, oh California are you listening, are in so much financial trouble. If you cut the size of government, which Governor Daniels has, and cut back on the social handouts, people can get back to work. Its all in doing things the right way, and being good at what you do. Kind of like the electrical contractor I work for. We are busy. We have 20 guys now from other contractors that are laid off working full time as fill in help for us, to help them out, and help us out. We do top quality work, and guarantee it and stand by it, and are in great demand. Not so much for these other contractors. You would think that they would see, that if you do things right, its better for everyone. And we happen to pay our workers much better than the rest of them, and we are not tied to a union. We dont need one. And we dont need to give money to any political organization. Do things right, and be fair and honest, and good things come. Let people stick their hands outs and live off the sweat off the backs of others, and things all come crumbling down. Thats just the facts. Run this country as a business, and maybe we can finally get the debt taken care of. Are you listening Republicans? Democrats? Libertarians? Anyone?

  • Rich

    Though I do not agree with anything Deniso has said I will state they have a right to their opinion as do all people. Heck this is the first time I have posted in several months because so many here resort to name calling immidiately rather than talking. I find not that the Dems are wrong philisopically but that they have their heads in the clouds. On paper Socialism is a great idea one little problem add humans to the equation and it gets all messed up what with the addition of selfishness and greed. I used to tell clients constantly that if it is thought of or touched by a human it is bound to break just as all things are that includes government. Our country was founded on the principle’s of hard work and self reliance, those have been replace by government handouts and watching television. I am not saying I am perfect I am far from it, I just try to live in the real world and not in the dusty rooms of academia or governmental office spaces.

  • http://Verizon Bud G.

    Denniso:

    Why would a Tea Party candidate want to run as a Democrat when they can clearly see there won’t be many left in Washington after the November elections. You have to be dreaming if you think otherwise. Of course, they (Democrats) will do quite well with the dead and illegal immigrant vote and they will use it to the max but it won’t be enough to save them. The Libertarian Party would not give them much of a chance nor the Independent Party. The truth is many running are neither Republican or Democrat but know their chances are much better running as a Republican. The Socialist Democrats, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi will no longer be in charge if the elections office does their job and stops the fraudulent votes.

    I do hope that anybody who has more than two terms in Congress is voted out, regardless of party affiliation. That is the “change” that needs to happen.

    • Denniso

      You people tried voting out the experienced politicians when your dumb buddy Gingrich pulled the same sort of stunt as they are trying now. You should know by now that experience in Washington is valuable
      for both parties and that putting those in who don’t know what they’re doing doesn’t help your side. You wind up w/ incompetents trying to battle against experienced pols and lobbyists…doesn’t work.

  • jopa

    Berberoni;The ultra filthy rich are truly the republicans,and that is why they constantly block the wall street reform bills. the health care issues favor the insurance companies when they are done with the bills and also big oil.Right now the republicans are blocking subpoena power to the committee investigating BP.The Koch brothers are the fifth and sixth richest people in America and they started the Tea party and Tea Party Express.Take a look at Odonnels campaign that just took in 2.5 million from multimillionaire donors and the list goes on.

  • Rich

    Jopa though you are correct that many rich people are republicans many are also Democrats. George Soros, etc. I am not saying it is even but this quote comes from http://www.minnpost.com/publicnumbers/2007/11/13/82/the_party_of_the_rich_–_democrats_or_republicans.

    “Among voters earning less than $100,000 (78 percent of voters), 55 percent said they voted Democratic, 43 percent Republican. Among those earning $100,000 or more, 47 percent voted Democratic and 52 percent Republican.”

    So even if the more of the rich are Republicans than Democrats why is it that people from both sides of the aisle (Democrat and Republican alike) are blocking the legislation you brought up? Could it be that both parties are corrupt and it is time for a real change and cleaning of the houses if you will?

  • Wayne

    Bob Livingston, the webmaster, or who ever takes care of this website, I have a question? Do you folks have this website fixed so people cannot print from it? I have tried three times to print a massage from this site, and each time I do that this website will freeze up.

    • libertytrain

      I’ve printed the articles from both the print button at the end of the article or the print button on the right up top and both worked for me?

    • Wayne

      Thanks for letting me know about you being able to print on this website. It is due to something within my MSN Explore. I wrote to the MSN Explore techs to see if they could help me on this. Thanks for the responce. I hsve a couple of error codes I sent along to them.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/contact-us/ Personal Liberty Support

    Dear Wayne,
    We encourage you to print any articles you like. There are two ways you can print. You can just hit the print link on the top right of the page, which will give you a printer-friendly view without all the graphics, or print straight from the website by using the Ctrl+P from your keyboard. I just did both and the article printed fine. It is possible your computer has a memory issue or something else that is preventing you from printing.
    Personal Liberty Support

    • Wayne

      Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it. I was printing from the MSN Explorer, not from IE when this happens. I have tried four or five time. Each time I try, MSN will freeze up. I am sure it is on my end as I received two different codes which I have sent to the technicians at MSN Explorer. Thanks again.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com V

    Denniso…you are obviously a liberal and a moron.

  • Wayne

    In case people are still reading this site this is some facts I dug up on the administration:

    Get your facts right

    The day the Democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009
    – it was actually January 3rd 2007.

    The day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives & Senate, the start of the 110th Congress.

    The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

    “For those of you who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is “Bush’s Fault,” think about this:

    January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:

    At the time:
    The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77
    The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%
    The Unemployment rate was 4.6%

    George Bush’s Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB CREATION!

    Remember the day.

    January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

    The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy?
    BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

    THANK YOU DEMOCRATS for taking us from 13,000 DOW, 3.5 GDP and 4.6% Unemployment to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOS!

    (BTW: Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie – starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy).

    And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac?

    OBAMA

    And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie?

    OBAMA & the Democratic Congress

    So when some idiot tries to blame Bush

    • Denniso

      You don’t have the fact in your list that the already huge gap between rich and middle class grew even larger under Bush,since the Repubs policies favor the wealthy and big business…not surprising at all.

      You rightwingers just can’t admit what the entire world knows, that you supported the dumbest and most buffoonish president in modern times…a failed businessman,couldn’t speak or think or govern.

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