Shutdown Roundup – Day 3


President Barack Obama waited ‘til the third day of the government “shutdown” to play the senior citizen card, telling a Maryland audience that, if the partisan standoff over a continuing resolution to fund the government escalates into a stalemate over the debt limit, people won’t get their Social Security checks.

“In a government shutdown, Social Security checks still go out on time. In an economic shutdown — if we don’t raise the debt ceiling — they don’t go out on time,” he said. “In a government shutdown, disability benefits still arrive on time. In an economic shutdown, they don’t.”

Well, that would certainly be devastating to the millions of people who depend on the returns they paid into Social Security in their working lives. But it’s pretty audacious of the President to play to affected seniors and disabled people as though they’re his political ace in the hole.

Whose fault is it really, Mr. President? There’s plenty of evidence out there that public opinion doesn’t favor your role in this whole mess. Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) was caught on a hot mic Thursday telling Senate colleague Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) he didn’t think Obama had “poll tested” his “we won’t negotiate” strategy, and that it’s damaging Obama’s to Obama’s case, in the court of public opinion, to keep bleating that as a mantra. Hope he’s right.

And a Harvard Law professor even got on NPR (of all places) Thursday to caution that Obama’s brinksmanship is likely to damage the President and his Congressional Democratic support, in the long run, more than it will the vilified Tea Party leaders in the GOP.

A CBS poll released Thursday indeed revealed that 76 percent of voters want Obama to negotiate with Congressional Republicans to end the shutdown, and 78 percent want the GOP to do the same.

More insanity from Day Three:

The New York Times saw no reason to let a good crisis go to waste, jumping on Twitter moments after Thursday’s bizarre Washington, D.C. car chase/shooting to announce an implicit connection between the incident and the ongoing shutdown standoff. Here’s the link.

There’s been a surprising amount of violent rhetoric coming from the Obama camp over the GOP opposition since the shutdown began. Obama himself said the GOP has a “gun to the American people’s head.” Congressman George Miller (D-Calif.) went with “jihad.” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told CNN last week that GOP holdouts were “legislative arsonists.” White House Aide Dan Pfeiffer said Republicans are acting like they have a “bomb strapped to their chest.”

“Less than three years ago, on the heels of the deadly shooting in Tucson, Ariz., Mr. Obama now famously called on Americans to use ‘words that heal, not wound,’” noted The Washington Times in a related story. So much for that.

Win or lose, the conservative opposition to Obama’s demand for a “clean” resolution has galvanized the conservative base. That could mean big gains in the 2014 elections for Republicans more likely to stand with Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) than John McCain (R-Ariz.) Here’s a good read from Rare on the topic.

The “shutdown” of government websites has mimicked the White House’s “Washington Monument” strategy of artificially maximizing the effects of the stalemate by needlessly limiting access to government monuments.

Speaking of monuments, the Feds went after Mt. Vernon – George Washington’s home – this morning. The government doesn’t even own that – well, they do half-own the parking lots. The Park Service relented later in the day. Strategic backfires starting to sink in, maybe?

We’re creeping up on a full week – Day Four’s just around the corner.

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Ben Bullard

Reconciling the concept of individual sovereignty with conscientious participation in the modern American political process is a continuing preoccupation for staff writer Ben Bullard. A former community newspaper writer, Bullard has closely observed the manner in which well-meaning small-town politicians and policy makers often accept, unthinkingly, their increasingly marginal role in shaping the quality of their own lives, as well as those of the people whom they serve. He argues that American public policy is plagued by inscrutable and corrupt motives on a national scale, a fundamental problem which individuals, families and communities must strive to solve. This, he argues, can be achieved only as Americans rediscover the principal role each citizen plays in enriching the welfare of our Republic.

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  • rbrooks

    there is plenty of evidence that the public blames the gop.

    • Chester

      The GOP and the Tea Party can’t see anything that says they might be in the wrong. That goes against everything they believe. It seems that if you are God’s appointed messenger, you are NEVER wrong.

      • Libertarian Soldier

        That’s because what they’ve done is right, according to the Constitution and Federalist 58.

        On the other hand, obama’s refusal to return the flawed legislation to the House of Representatives to rework it and his belief that it is ‘unnecessary’ and a ‘waste of time’ to act Constitutionally, as well as his belief that he is special, that he’s the first pResident with the authority to usurp the legislative powers of Congress, enumerated by the Constitution, that he may adjoin those powers, that he is not bound to ‘faithfully execute’ legislation passed by Congress and has the authority that supersedes the powers enumerated by the Constitution to change that.

        This is unconstitutional overreach and James Madison, in his writings to the state of New York explains that this is why the purse strings were given to the House of Representatives, to check tyrannical, executive overreach and to nullify bad laws.

        They believe they’re right because they are.

        • Chester

          How can Obama return something to the House of Representatives when it has already PASSED both houses of Congress and been signed into law. And why not FIX the problems as they come up rather than throw the baby out with the bathwater? The Tea Party is no more God than I am, regardless of who they bring in to sing their praises. Funny thing is, after the shutdown started, they are getting more curses than praises, from their own people, no less.

          • Libertarian Soldier

            Learning disability? OK! Go get mom. Get mom to read the post above yours. Got mom? Good boy! Have mom read the Constitution. You don’t need the whole thing. Just go to “Article. I.

            Section. 1.

            All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.”

            Got that?

            OK, here’s the next task:

            “Article. II.

            Section. 1.

            Before he enters on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–‘I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.'”

            As for your rhetorical argument about why: The answer is that’s the process in the Constitution. It’s intended to protect the people from executive tyranny and overreach. It’s like the framers had a crystal ball and they knew there’d be an obama that thinks he’s above the Constitution. Again, have mom read the post above yours. Everything is explained. I left you a map, citing Federalist 58, written by James Madison.

            I’m not going to spell it out, again.

            About the Tea Party, did someone say they were God? Doesn’t have anything to do with me. I’m not one of them but I totally agree with most of what they stand for. The curses you’re hearing about them are from the republic-rats. They’re on your side, obama’s side, the side that asks, ‘why do I need to waste my time following the constitution?’

          • Deerinwater

            Well, ~ that is what the Tea Party is selling ~ but not what they are delivering.

          • Libertarian Soldier

            Prove otherwise! Oh, I remember you. You’re another goon that makes sweeping accusations, spills unfounded, rhetorical recriminations and changes the subject incessantly when challenged to provide proof!

            Article 1, Section 7.

            This is the process to which obama said, ‘that’s not necessary’. He said, ‘it’s a waste of time’. That will likely be Article of Impeachment 1.

            When the conservatives, not led by the republic-rats, take the Senate, in ’14, there’ll be enough votes to impeach obama and reid.

            The republicans have not only given obama and reid a road-map to avoid impeachment, the DNC is so arrogant, they think it can’t happen!

            In other words, you’re that democrat, troll!

          • jecsl

            how come they refused to uphold the DOMA law or the immigration law – they only uphold the laws THEY want to uphold…it is perfectly legal for the House to not fund Obamacare…

          • Elizabeth M

            Bull, you have been brainwashed by Obuthole and his motley crew!!!!

          • Robert Messmer

            They (Congress) have not been allowed to FIX the problems because Obama has illegally changed provisions of the law on his own.

          • Chester

            Have yet to hear an offer to FIX any part of Obamacare, other than a demand to “defund” it. What the Tea Party, and apparently you, are saying is that no matter the good parts in the law, and they do admit there ARE some good parts, we would rather toss it all out, and let the poor scramble for emergency room beds like they have been doing all along.

          • Robert Messmer

            No what I am saying is if the law is so good then everyone in the country should be under it in the same way, which means that the President and Congress would have to pay their own premiums because the unearned salaries they draw eliminates them from any government subsidies, which its my understanding don’t even kick in this first year. Also the business mandate should not be delayed a year either. Let it start now just like the individual mandate did. After all, it is a tax and businesses need to pay their fair share.

          • Chester

            No one who already HAS insurance has to participate in this, unless they think they can get a better deal. And Congress men and women, as well as Senators, do have to use the exchanges from their home state. The only people in the capitol buildings who are eligible for any subsidy are the interns and staffers. Seems their pay is such that they can hardly afford a room to live in around DC, let alone any extra expenses for such luxuries as insurance.

          • Robert Messmer

            According to published reports, Congress and the President have been granted special privileges and the taxpayers are scheduled to pick up 72% of their costs. BTW this was one of the “dirty” CRs sent to the Senate, House wanted to strip this special treatment but Reid said no deal.

            And the reason for the President co-opting Congress’ duty to change the law by amendment to exempt business from paying their fair share of the ‘tax’? If it is good enough for the individual mandate then it should be good enough for the business mandate as well.

    • Libertarian Soldier

      If the propaganda ministry gives one narrative, that’s what the public is going to think and that’s who they’re going to blame.

      Hitler had his scapegoats!

      Hitler had Goebbles nationalize the Deutsche media when Hitler made him the minster of propaganda. He banned certain books and religions. Then he nationalized healthcare.

      Healthcare; Check! We’re almost there!

      • Liz

        The ACLU and Atheists are already working on the Religion part.

        • Libertarian Soldier

          They’re so far ahead of schedule, they’re past working on it. Military chaplains are not allowed to say God outside of their chapels. bible studies are confined to chapels or off base. Bibles are banned from being seen by others. They have to keep them hidden and can’t read them in common areas or where others might be offended by them. They may only have party specific literature in plain sight, no Conservative or Constitutional literature in plain view.

          islam and open gay activities and speech is promoted and protected while Christian speech is deemed offensive and will draw punishment.

          In training literature, the founders, the architects of the Constitution are described as “extremists”. We have lost our country. We have lost our Constitutional Republic!

          The left is so used to oppression of the Constitution, they violate it openly and call the Constitutional Conservatives “anarchists”, “terrorists”, “jihadists”, “arsonists”, “extortionist” while they’re in the act of extortion!

          Wow! Have to get this turned around!

          Take back the language and stop hiding from the bullying of the left and their collectivism. Collectivism leads to oppression and violence. Let’s try to do this peacefully but don’t be surprised if it goes the other way, under this pResident.

    • independent thinker

      Where I live the evidence points to the public blaming obama and the democrats more than the Republicans

  • regulus30

    the fleecing of America ; this pimp did it as a foreign exchange student from indonesia [ he is still a citizen ] of that shi666t hole, this low live amoeba should have his oxygen cut off.

  • BikerTF

    How could the insane government continue to pay everyone food stamps, and speak about seniors not getting social security? Stop food stamps and pay the seniors.

    • Robert Messmer

      Better idea would be to stop the pay of all elected or appointed Federal bureaucrats. In fact, their pay should be reduced to minimum wage until the federal debt is paid off in full and we start working with budget surpluses again.

      • Motov

        I’ll add something a tad more “radical”,… Make politicians pay from their own pockets every dollar they go over the budget.

  • Libertarian Soldier

    Lying Demagogues!

  • Eagle525

    No check for seniors … thats classic Obama … screwing the same seniors from which he “robbed” 500 billion from the Medicare Fund. I guess that gives every senior the right to call Obama a SXB.

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    These people were angry over just a proposed SS cutback by Obama:
    Imagine if he actually was able to stop Social Security?
    Obama’s foot-in-mouth disease:

    • Motov

      Obozo’s “Share the wealth” policy, Steal from those who worked their butts off, and give it to those who expect to be paid for, just because they simply exist

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        In other words, buy their votes with other people’s money. How nice for the Politicians.

        • Motov

          They are experts spending money that is not theirs, but the moment you even try to reach into their pockets,…..all hell will break loose.
          The best way to “fix” SS, is simply make all politicians use the same system we are all stuck with. In other words they do NOT get the retirement package they voted themselves to have. We must end this idea that politicians are entitled to to a big piece of pie for screwing up our nation.

    • Deerinwater

      That’s more in line with the ambitions of opposition like yourself David.

  • Lindy62

    Have a little patience and let Obamacare collapse on its own. I believe Obama has already issued over 2000 exceptions, so that indicates some of the problems. Also, there are no safeguards against a rogue website or hacker capturing personal information. With this economy, even bronze or silver plans will be too expensive for many under 30 who are having trouble working full time. If the young opt for inexpensive private plans, Obamacare will be in deep trouble.

    • the hermit

      all o illegal mexcans will have all the jobs they will work less then the 30 hours
      and the mooslum will kick in the rest.. the American people worker???will they are expendable.

  • Dcp5674

    The biggest backfire is Obama holding an economic gun at we the peoples heads. I can’t wait til 2014 to see the liberals go down in flames. WE WILL NOT FORGET!

    • peter

      Just maybe that the libs will not go down in flames because the Republicans are divided and leaderless. They seriously need to get their act together if they want to compete against the Clinton clan. Unity is strength, division is destruction and to a large extent the Clintons will continue to call the shots because they understand the game better than their opposition and FULLY understand the importance of carrying out the agenda of the real masters and are fully committed to that cause. Either way there are interesting times ahead, hopefully no disasters. It is wise to remember that the people are irrelevant, the elites do not need people, they have a printing press.

      • B

        Clinton’s are criminals too! Only prop I can give Bill is that the budget stayed in ck, Benghazi is going to roast her a$$!!!

        • Liz

          We can only hope.

        • Robert Messmer

          Bill Clinton – NAFTA – jobs being sucked out of the country. Obama should blame him, not Bush. LOL

      • Dcp5674

        I agree with you Peter, which is why the system is tanking. Once the newsies are no longer neutral , THEY make the choices, not the “irrelevant people. They are our employees, and I have a feeling the progs will regret not playing honest. But right now, Reid and the Senate are starting to piss the people off, and that will have repercussions.

  • mari

    How dare he threaten senior citizens who have paid into social security their whole working lives. He is either heartless or he is making idle threats to gain political clout. Either way he is not fit to be our leader. He couldn’t possibly cut money from some of the bloated departments like the EPA, FDA, DEA, NSA or maybe the money going to the Mideast. How about cutting some of the stuff that we don’t want to support like golf games, lavish vacations, government salaries that are over the top, paying the congress’s deductibles (they make so much money supplementing their healthcare is a travesty), free cell phones, endless money thrown at his supporters (cronyism at its worst), tax breaks for those who don’t pay taxes, or maybe all the money he is spending to make a show of causing us to suffer (signs, guards, fences all cost more than letting people in). All politicians play political games but his has taken it to a whole new level.

    • Liz

      Why not cut the President’s and Congresses pay checks instead and make Pelosi sell her jet to help pay the bills.

      • Motov

        Because it is “politics”
        Poli means many,….
        tics are blood sucking parasites.
        They cannot go against their nature to suck the life out of their host.
        I believe most should serve just two terms, their first in office, then their second term in a maximum security prison.

  • John H. Holliday D.D.S.

    Desperate Obama is finally beginning to squirm under his rock like the dishonest night crawler that he truly is. It is now becoming more clear with each day when the Federal government continues to shut down that the Federal government can be greatly downsized and streamlined like a dangerously unhealthy and morbidly overweight obese person who undergoes very careful mandatory selective surgery to slowly remove all of that massively totally and completely non-essential body fat from their obese body. The morbidly and gravely obese Federal government is now undergoing that unavoidable and gradually successful necessary body fat removal surgery that is long overdue and will demonstrate and prove that permanently laying off at least a few hundred thousand non-essential Federal government worker deadwood parasite blood sucking and tax sucking non-essential TAX LEECH PARASITES on the hard working and Over Taxed U.S. Citizen Tax Payer Slaves will result in a more affordable operating and functional streamlined Federal government. It is a relief to see the Federal government Federal Deficit and National Federal Debt Tax Payer Slave Plantation in Washington .D.C. begin to loosen the shackles of all hard working Over Taxed U.S. Citizen Tax Payer Slaves. Let’s hope that the Federal government continues to shut down and We The People can starve the Federal government monster into submission to the will of it’s keepers, BOSSES and MASTERS who are We The People U.S. Citizen Over Taxed Tax Payers.

  • alboy5

    Obama should be booted as he constantly violates the Constitution he took an oath to protect. Obama thought the oath of office means nothing and he was to be the emperor of the U.S. dictating whatever he thinks should ram down the throats of his subjects the former citizens of the U.S.

    • Oliver_K_Manuel

      I agree. Obama is a dangerous tyrant.

  • alboy5

    Its apparent Obama never read either the U.S. Constitution or his 100,000 page Obamacare plan and neither did the Senate. Now Reid and Obama want people killed to prove Obamas point of being supreme leader.

    • Liz

      NO, he wants people to be hurt and deprived to prove he is a Dictator he was put in place to be!

  • alboy5

    Ovampire will suck the social security and medicare out of seniors, but will still attempt to implement his unhealthy Obamacrap.

    • the hermit

      you know these demo-slugs have already stole 7 Billion out of ssi and if he /they can starve us old they will.

  • Sarah Conner

    The Social Security checks,disability checks,veterans checks,welfare checks will all go out on time and uninterrupted…you should know how this communist works by now…he lies and twist the truth to scare the sick and the elderly and the msm helps to spread those lies…Stand strong…the longer the feral gov’ment shut down goes on,the more people will see obozo for what he really is…a poser,straw man,communist,dicktator wannabe…no one said this was gonna be easy or painless…let’s get that crap out of the way and take our country back…I am an American,I will not comply,I will not be silent,I will not obey,I will not consent,I will not bow down…I am an American,I will die on my feet,not on my knees…

    • B

      Well said, millions of us think the same way!!!

    • B

      Well said, millions of us think the same way!!!

    • AttMore

      AMEN!!!,I agree…

  • RobinPC

    I am on SS, and if this THIEF withholds mine, I can assure you that there WILL BE HELL TO PAY. It is NOT his money, it is mine, money I paid into the system before this leper was even born. I take this very personal, not politics, and he should be prepared to take “personally” the hell he will receive. If he thinks he has scandals now, just wait!

    • Deerinwater

      Well, ~ you getting unset at the wrong person.

  • Motov

    I hope this helps “change” but not the way Obozo wants it. It is past the time to oust this anti-American Love Canal scum, and put in someone else.

    • Deerinwater

      Why such language? ~ The next General Election is in 2016 ~

      You need grounds , ~ you don’t have “grounds” ~ a chapped butt does not count.

      Obama is the dichotomy of anti-American and shown the world that the American Dream is a “Reality” and not a dream at all.

      • B

        Liar and criminal from day one!!!

        Plus the scandals have proven to go all the way to him and his appointees, only reason he’s not in prison is because of the Dem scum in the Senate and MSM that support him!!!

        • Deerinwater

          There are no scandals ~ other then what has been manufactured. ~ Just disappoint and bad events that radical opposition attempts to make into a scandal.

          • Robert Messmer

            You mean the DoJ did not give @ 2000 guns to Mexican Drug Cartels?

      • Motov

        “Why such language?”
        Did you think I was too light on this miserable excuse of a person?
        I also think Obozo’s “American Dream”, is better described as an “American Nightmare” that would even cause Freddie to scream like a little girl.

  • Deerinwater

    “O” is asking for a House vote Today ! ~~ allow the system to work!

    It will or it won’t carry ~

    • Liz

      The House has voted and sent revisions every day and because it isn’t what Reid and O’Bama want they dismiss it, demonize Republicans and now hurt every American they think they have the power to hurt. The President’s “my way or the highway” mentality” is a Dictator’s thinking not a President upholding the Constitution. Next he won’t sign into law anything the House sends because O’Bama does NOT want a debt celling, he wants to spend all he wants with no limits. The Republicans have rolled over every time for this President, this time they are standing firm.

      • Deerinwater

        No Mam, ~ there has been no floored house vote, only in revisions are you correct. ~

  • Al Chemist

    The liberal/progressive/commie/democrats and their lap dogs in the MSM will continue to demonize the Republican House and will soon call for lynching of all Conservatives and Tea Party members. Either that or they will sic the IRS on them. Oh, wait. They’ve already done that.