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Schools To Monitor Obesity In Students

Schools To Monitor Obesity In Students

BAY SHORE, N.Y. (UPI) — A group of Bay Shore, N.Y., school students will soon be wearing a watch-like device that allows school officials to track how active they are, officials say.

The devices are called Polar Active monitors and they count heartbeats, detect motion and even track students’ sleeping habits in an effort to combat obesity, the New York Post reported Sunday.

“It’s a great reinforcement in fighting the obesity epidemic. It tells kids, in real time, ‘Am I active? Am I not active?’ We want to give kids the opportunity to become active,” said Bay Shore athletics chairman Ted Nagengast.

The monitors are distributed by Polar Electro, of Lake Success, the U.S. division of a Finland firm. They cost $90 each.

School districts in St. Louis and South Orange, N.J., already use the devices, which has raised some privacy concerns, according to the Post.

“When you get into monitoring people’s biological vital signs, that’s a pretty intrusive measurement,” said Jay Stanley, of the American Civil Liberties Union. “There are key privacy interests at play.”

Stanley said parents need to have a say in how long the data will be stored and who will have access to it and schools must obtain parents’ consent.

“A program like this should only be voluntary. Nobody should be forced to reveal biological indicators,” he said.

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  • FreedomFighter

    War on fatties.

    Ever seen a fat person besides dear leader in N. Korea?

    Communist-liberals doing control freak action on our children. This issue is between Parent child and doctor not the skool. Public school is not a control mechanism for our children, education only please.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Robert Smith

      What is it about VOLUNTARY that you don’t understand Freedom?

      As long as nobody is forced to give up information I have no problem with it.

      Rob

      • Ted Crawford

        Yes Robert, like the census, which also began as a voluntary program!

      • s c

        Comrade, r, I don’t see why you’d have a problem with anything – as long as it pleases your political gods and makes you happier than a pig in a sty. At some point, those emotions you rely on will fail, and you’ll be forced to think.
        Until then, I see no reason why you shouldn’t wear one of those wonderful devices. And before you think you don’t need one – you DO. Your Emperor demands it.
        And, since you’ll never be a member of the ruling elite, it MUST be done. Don’t forget, comrade, your opinion is worthless. You exist to serve. That’s it. Enjoy, comrade. Isn’t utopia WONDERFUL? OINK!

      • Buster the Anatolian

        Show me where it says the program is voluntary.

        • Karolyn

          It doesn’t say it’s NOT voluntary. I would assume that. as in all schools, something like this would have to be approved by parents.

          • Matt Newell

            ASSUME puts U between an ASS and ME.

      • Vigilant

        R Smith says, “What is it about VOLUNTARY that you don’t understand Freedom?…As long as nobody is forced to give up information I have no problem with it.”

        Do some research instead of jumping the gun, Rob. You might want to check out the article entitled “Big Brother Nanny State TagTeam: Students Physical Activity Electronically Monitored 24/7″ at
        http://ironicsurrealism.com/

        The devices have been in use for a couple of years at other locations, and they were used without knowledge/consent of parents.

        So, What is it about INVOLUNTARY that you don’t understand Rob?

        • Karolyn

          Well, then it’s the parents’ problem. If they haven’t fought it, I guess they must think it’s a good idea.

          • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

            OMG that is moronic. Vigilant just SAID the devices were used without the parents’ KNOWLEDGE or permission. How are they going to fight it when they don’t know it’s going on?

            Jeez….

      • http://naver sook young

        It isn’t voluntary, but mandatory. Do you have a problem if it is mandatory? I remember going to Jimtown and Concord High Schools to talk about health, nutrition, and watching your weight. My talking to the students wasn’t voluntary either. At Jimtown they called the students into the gym to listen to us for an hour. The same at Concord, so what are you trying to say? I do believe in our children staying in shape and staying thin. Doing so creates less health problems and benefits all involved. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        P.S. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Since kids are in school the major part of the day, the schools are the ones who created the problems. But this is the new creepy solution to solve the obesity instead of having exercise time.

  • dv

    I was very concerned when I read this article. Not only does this not belong in schools what is next? It is conforming children to submit to this type of watching/control. It seems many health concerns are becoming govt issues. I recall reading that HHS said it is a national security issue. It seems we are being conditioned to do anything that monitors searches or medicated. We Need it all need this from extensive flu short, drugs safety searches. The more that begin to think this is normal the easier to control the masses forcing all this

    • Disgusted

      Truth. My work made the flu shot mandatory for all employees in 2011. If you didn’t get the flu shot by 12/31/11 you were considered to have voluntarily resigned from employment.
      I consider this to be personal health care decision that should not be regulated. I submitted a waiver and got approved but many, many, many employees just went along like sheeple and got the flu shot even though they didn’t want it. Everytime those sheeple do that we lose a little bit of ground. Whatever happened to standing up for yourself no matter what?
      Now they are trying to weedle their way into the lives of our Children and just as good sheeple do the parents are all going along with it. The monitoring of a child’s activity and what they are eating is the responsibility of the parents and the parents alone – just as the decision to inject my body with filth like the flu shot should be my decision and my decision alone.

    • 45caliber

      Why do you think they need the TSA? It is to get us used to searches. Now the TSA is looking into searching those on buses and trains as well as simply stopping all cars along a highway to make searches.

      • Vigilant

        Orwell’s “1984″ is here now.

        Big Brother is watching.

      • hitthedeck

        I can see it now! TSA shakeing down kids for twinkies.

    • Ellen

      HHS & Michelle Obama claimed it was a national security issue because 75% of our youth don’t qualify to be in our military. The truth is most don’t qualify because they’ve been arrested, dropped out of high school, or can’t pass the basic entrance exam. Democrats are excellent at lies and distortions. I went to Catholic school as a kid and we didn’t have Phys. Ed or art or music because they cost money. Nearly no one was fat. Of course, we also ate real food back then, not processed nutritionless fake food that makes you fat.

      • Karolyn

        Ellen says: “The truth is most don’t qualify because they’ve been arrested, dropped out of high school, or can’t pass the basic entrance exam” Can you back up this assertion?

        • s c

          K, talk to retired teachers and those who are close to retirement. American ‘public education’ is a monumental FAILURE. What I take for granted is based on experience and in keeping tabs on what’s going on in education circles and research.
          WHY do you think America’s kids can’t keep up with schools in other countries? WHY do you think great sums of money are wasted on education? Do you think Uncle Scam isn’t the cause of America’s INFERIOR schools?
          What you think keeps you away from the truth. As always, what you NEED TO KNOW matters. What you THINK is irrelevant – especially if you’re not digging for answers, k.

  • Ted Crawford

    Well, after all, they must earn their money monitoring something! Even the most clueless among us are aware that they can’t be expected to monitor their education!

  • Bob

    While it is VOLUNTARY, just think about the ribbing that any overweight kid who OPTS OUT of this program will take… There is NO NEED for this in schools…. Schools are there to TEACH THE CHILDREN, and since they’re doing such a LOUSY job at it, perhaps we should remind them what they are there to do IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

    • 45caliber

      Correct. It seems as if the school officials are busy trying to find other things (like this one) to do in an attempt to distract the parents from the fact that they no longer truly give the kids a good education.

    • Vigilant

      Bob, it’s NOT voluntary at some locations. See my post and link above.

    • Karolyn

      Since so many parents do such a horrible job, especially in lower socio-economic areas, it is incumbent on schools to fill in. Do you want to see change or not? Education is the key to changing all the ills in the world.

      • libertytrain

        Oddly, it seems that the more breakfasts, lunches, and everything else provided the schools in the last 30-40 years, our students aren’t coming out as schooled as they were back in our day, Karolyn. They can hardly read, hardly write, don’t ask them to do math with a pencil and paper – with all the freebies provided to make their tummies full – something more has occurred. Maybe we said to too many parents – “don’t worry about anything, we’re paying for it” and too many, many freebies appears to lessen a parents feelings of responsibility for their kids…

      • Vigilant

        Karolyn says, “Since so many parents do such a horrible job, especially in lower socio-economic areas, it is incumbent on schools to fill in.”

        No, it is not. The primary job, and to my mind, the ONLY job of the schools is EDUCATION, not babysitting, not surrogate parenting, not social work, not programming young minds to reject Capitalism and embrace socialism.

        Education means education, i.e., the three Rs, science, history and civics.

        “Do [I] want to see change or not?” You bet I do: change it back to the way it was when I was in school (1952-1964), and you’ll see lower taxes, more respect for elders, literate and productive graduating classes.

        • libertytrain

          I can recall the very first moment I realized education was going to go downhill. About 36 years ago, taking my litle girl to kindergarten and walking in the school and seeing ALL the teacher’s dressed in blue jeans and grubbies. Who were they to look up to, who were they going to learn to respect. It was the beginning of the first thing I noticed about the baloney beginning in public schools. When I mentioned my dismay about the lousy dress of the teacher and principal, I was told it was the new “cool” way to relate to the kids… that sure worked out well. They also tried the bogus open classrooms – big spaces of just a class here and a class there. Found that my first time in Naples about 1985 – that didn’t last long and they put up walls. A lot of bogus plans that just don’t work.

  • http://amacd1955.livejournal.com/ Al

    I don’t think one needs a $90 device to tell if a kid is overweight. Just look at him/her. When I was a kid the fat kid population was about one in one hundred. Also, there were no school buses. Amazing.

    • s c

      Al, it’s entirely possible that our elected gods ‘goofed.’ Remember that $90 is a lot of money when you’re broke [praise BE to Uncle Scam]. However, WHY pay $90 a unit when the damned thing could have been made in CHINA, and the W H god could have racked up another behavioral suck-up merit badge (and maybe get some more points for another Nobel Peace Prize, too)? SOME DC oinkers just don’t think much before they act, do they?

      • Vigilant

        Good int. Someone whould research to see where the units are made. My money’s on China .

        • Vigilant

          Sorry, I meant “Good point,” not “Good int.”

          Am I the only one having this problem? When I go to comment, it cuts off letters at the beginning unless I wait a bit.

          • libertytrain

            it’s frequently the keyboard, particularly if it is the wireless kind with batteries. Your mouse may need replacement batteries or your keyboard. If you don’t have that kind, I have no idea. Sometimes my typing hesitates as well but not just here, even on emails I’m typing even when my batteries are fresh -

          • 45caliber

            I’m having the same problem and my computer is all wired.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            The brain processes information faster than our fingers can type.

          • http://naver sook young

            Mine is doing that also. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

            P.S. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • libertytrain

            I’m not having any issues with it at all. But who knows – could change…

          • Karolyn

            Vig – I have that problem all the time. It seems that because there is so much to load on this site, the computer takes a bit of time to catch up. And I have wireless that has a good connection. On my other computer with DSL, it takes forever before I can post.

  • 45caliber

    The real question is: Do the parent give permission or is it to be done without parental consent? Will the parents be given tickets for not making the kids exercise more? Will it be grounds for the CPS to take the children away?

    Actually, what right does the school have to even worry about this when they aren’t educating the children well enough? Shouldn’t that be their FIRST concern?

  • 45caliber

    The real problem with children getting fat due to a lack of exercise is: Where will they get that exercise?

    When I was a boy, any child could safely go to a park to play. Now no one dares let their child go there without going along as a guard. Since most families require both parents to work to simply pay the bills, the parents don’t have the time to do that. My wife was able to stay home; my kids’ wives can’t since the boys cannot make enough money to support a family alone.

    If the government wants the kids to get exercise, perhaps they should develop safe places for them to go to do it. Like a fenced park with police guards to insure they are safe.

    • libertytrain

      I have to agree with you. It’s just not simple anymore to let a kid play outside. And goodness if your kid gets taken, the parents are looked at like they did something wrong… nothing is easy as it was when kids could just play like kids are supposed to be able to do.

      • http://deleted Claire

        I agree. Nothing is like it used to be. Times have changed and not for the better.

    • Buster the Anatolian

      Or why not put physical activity back into the schools instead of constantly reducing the required amount of time for it.

      • 45caliber

        Buster:

        They need that time to teach the other requirements – such as enviornmentalism, that homosexuality is okay and they need to try it, etc. That’s why they don’t have time to teach math and science.

  • 45caliber

    Well, if our government is really concerned about fat people, they can do what the government of North Korea has done. Their people are no longer fat. (Except for government officials of course. Those are exempt.) All they need to do is insure that the people can’t get enough food to eat. Many may die of starvation, but hey! most aren’t needed – from a government standpoint. Right?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Given enough time they will redefine what obesity is.

  • kyl

    I’d like to see a full body picture of every school board administrator, member, principal, and teacher who are proponents of this to determine just how many of them are hypocrites by virtue of their own obesity. I just can’t imagine that every one of them is a representation of the ideal they are trying to encourage.

    Kids are certainly intelligent enough to see this for themselves. This is just one more reason these genius educators are scratching their heads wondering why the drop-out rate is so high.

    • 45caliber

      Personally, if one of my kids had come home with one of these things without my permission (which I certainly wouldn’t not have given) I would remove it and return it to the superintendent along with a graphic description of where he should put it.

      • Karolyn

        There you go!

  • TML

    I could say that as long as participation is volunarily, and stays that way; there is no problem.

    I could say that it’s not the school’s place to monitor the health of children. (although it could be argued that it falls within the scope of ‘fitness education’)

    I could say that it seems like an attempt to condition out children, or a doorway of punishing those who do not conform to the standards placed on our children by others.

    I could say that it only seems to be in select local districts, and not part of an overall state or federal issue. (Although that isn’t to say it wouldn’t ‘sweep the nation’ if accepted locally)

    But what I will say is; no one is forcing you to put your children in public schools, and be a part of the DOE enterprise (not yet anyway). You still have the right to take your child out of public schools and into private schools, or even home schooling programs (which understandably is becoming more popular).

    Ultimately, when it comes to public schools, it should not be an involuntary participation, especially since its implied that monitoring would even take place at home (as they sleep). If that happens, then there should be a cry of tyranny throughout the nation. Otherwise, homeschool or private school is the way to go if you have serious concerns.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      There is no such thing as voluntary obedience if someone tells you what to do.

      • Karolyn

        I can’t help it – That’s a weird comment!

  • Michael Click

    A first step might to offer better food choices.

    Currently, if a child eats a hamburger with fries and a milkshake that is considered “healthy”. The burger has (white) bread and meat (nutrition suspect). The pickle and lettuce on the burger are each considered servings of vegetables. The fries and the catsup on them are each further servings of vegetables. The super-sugary shake is considered a serving of dairy. Yum! It doesn’t matter if the total calorie count of this one meal is over half the daily recommended total amount. Ditto for sodium and fat counts.

    Pizza is seldom judged to be “health-food” but for schools they are. You grab a slice of “all-the-way” pizza and it has multiple meats (processed and chemically-treated), cheese, bread (from white flour, again), multiple vegetables in the form of olives, onions, green peppers, mushrooms, etc. Yum! Please ignore the sodium and fat content again.

    You can go on and on for most of the rest of a typical menu. Why are these offered?
    #1 Because that’s what the kids want (no matter if it’s healthy or not).
    #2 Because they are relatively easy for the kitchen staff to prepare.

  • Wil

    Is it 1984 yet?

  • Shooting Bum

    I would make this MANDATORY for students on governmental meal programs. If I’m paying to feed kids I want them to at least get good food. If they don’t want what’s served then they don’t have to eat it. If they go hungry from time to time, so what? I just don’t want to pay for some child to order three orders of french fries and a large Coke for lunch just because that’s what THEY want to eat.
    If a parent wants to serve this kind cr*p to their own child because it’s cheap or easy, that’s their lookout, but schools act in “loco parentis” (in the place of the parent) and should be held responsible for allowing minors to decide what they will or won’t eat.

  • Allan

    There is a simple solution, change your diet. This would cost less in the long run.

    • hitthedeck

      THE SMALLER THE PIN THE FATTER THE PIG.

  • Greg

    GET YOUR KIDS OUT OF THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.

  • hitthedeck

    Show me an active kid and he or she will be slim and trim. Show me a lazy kid and 9 out of 10 will be fat. Kids today have been spoiled into obesity.

    • libertytrain

      I was an active kid but was never slim or trim…. Mom liked to fill us with too much food. I would have had to have run a 50 mile marathon twice a day just to expend the calories she piled on us back then. Oh bother….

      • http://deleted Claire

        libertytrain–My mother was roughly up to 180-200 pounds. She was heavy. My father was tall and slender. I guess I take after my father. I have never had a weight problem. I weighed 98 pounds when I got married. Now I weigh 123 sometimes 126 pounds. I am still 5’5″ — thankfully I haven’t gotten shorter.

        • libertytrain

          I think I was 98 pounds in the 5th grade. I’m more like your mom, and it’s not that she didn’t work, you know what she did and it sure isn’t cause I don’t work — ok. I’m whooped.

          • http://deleted Claire

            libertytrain–You are a good, hard worker–I know that for a fact. I think it has to do with genetics too. I have seen pictures of you–I do not consider you to be obese.

  • APN

    Schools To Monitor Obesity In Students

    No wonder we have a generation of morons coming out of our public schools. It’s about the math, science and ENGLISH…STUPID!

  • Laura

    somebody really needs to intervene these people and hit them with a whole lot of commonsense and prove to them just how stupid they all look.

  • http://deleted Claire

    Every morning on my way to work, I see a bunch of kids waiting for the school bus. There are about 10 of these kids, and guess what? Only two of them are thin. The rest are obese and all of them are busy talking on their cellphones. It never ceases to amaze me. I started working when my kids started school but I made dang sure they ate properly. Back then they didn’t have all those computer games and my kids played outside and rode their bikes. Nowadays, kids sit on their butts and play their computer games or are on their cell phones. It seems it is easier for parents to let their kids eat what they want when they want, I guess. All I know is that i would never allow my kids to get fat, I would do everything in my power to make sure there was no health issues first, then I would make dang sure they ate right. But once they become teenagers and start running around, a parent can’t control what they eat when they are away from home. The land of lard and sugar.

    • http://deleted Claire

      My husband has been in the hospital numerous times, and the majority of the nurses are obese.

  • s c

    Now that everyone has had some time to think about this topic, let’s see what happens when a curve ball is introduced. If everything is working right, if kids are motivated to eat right, if the system works, then let’s think about kids being around overweight teachers and administrators.
    Teachers and administrators – like it or mot – serve as working models because kids are around them five days a week at school. If their teachers and administrators (and parents?) are overweight, then don’t expect kids to take it upon themselves to change their ways. They will have ‘seen the future,’ and since that future is overweight, well, do the math, folks. And you thought this topic is a no-brainer.

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