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Savannah’s Vile Visitors

May 19, 2011 by  

Savannah’s Vile Visitors

During my older brother’s college years, the Ku Klux Klan planned a march through the sleepy Southern town in which his school tended the delicate young minds in its charge. As the fateful day approached, the college administrators wrung their hands over the best approach to dealing with the potentially explosive mixture of goose-stepping knot heads and a couple thousand college students drunk on school spirit and youthful vigor. The students ultimately formulated a plan to hold a giant picnic on the intramural fields located on the far side of campus from the Klan’s planned steel-toed strut. The residents of the town were all personally invited, and nearly all attended. The Klan marched through a town empty of all but the ghosts of their sad delusions.

I think the picnic idea was nothing short of brilliant, if for no other reason than that loosing my brother and his friends on the Pinhead Pageant would have generated a bigger crowd of shrieking lunatics in white dresses than the half-off sale at a Manhattan bridal superstore. Where better than college to learn that even soft-underbelly-of-society types like Klansmen have the right to hoot, holler and wear the laundry? Where better than college to learn the value of ignoring them?

But the Klan is easy to ignore. Not that its particular brand of hate isn’t noteworthy; I just can’t get that worked up about a bunch of clowns who have trouble spelling multisyllabic words but know more about thread count than a Beverly Hills madam.

This weekend in Savannah — a city that has endured my presence for years — another group of more virulently venomous villains will be smearing this lovely town with filth. Fred Phelps and his twisted minions of the Westboro Baptist Church have delivered to Savannah the dubious honor of being the latest locale to suffer their foolishness. Unlike a Klan march in a sleepy college town, the Westboro sideshow in a city of more than 250,000 is likely as difficult to ignore as a palmetto bug in your grits.

Ever since word filtered out that the Westboro crazy caravan was headed this way, all Savannah has been abuzz with plans to assemble to demonstrate against Westboro, prank them or simply gawk at the goings-on. There are Facebook groups dedicated to organizing peaceful counter protests, and there are other groups that have more “energetic” responses planned. I will be among neither the former nor the latter.

I am man enough to admit I lack the compunction to stand within range of reprobates like the Westboro flock. If one of them shoved one of those “God Hates Fags” signs in my face, I would make him eat it. (Just in case my mom is reading this, I would be polite about it. I’d offer him some sweet tea to wash it down.) One of my more spiritual friends recently reminded me that Jesus would not only tolerate Phelps and his herd, He would likely love them in accordance with Scripture. My response was a fairly colorful version of: “Do we think there’s a great deal of confusion over which one’s Jesus and which one’s Ben?” I will eschew a visit with Phelps, because I suspect writing “Outside the Asylum” while inside the big house would be fairly difficult.

Allow me to offer the inevitable caveat: As long as Phelps and his accomplices abide by local ordinances (which they seem maddeningly willing to do), they are — and they should be — allowed to make absolute buffoons of themselves. Those of us with crania larger than Georgia white shrimp are allowed likewise to either point out observable buffoonery or pointedly ignore Westboro’s cavalcade of crazy.

Whether it’s Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church, Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam or “Creepy McStalkerston” and the Montana chapter of the Moody Loners’ Militia, America endures even its most aggressively stupid children. At the very least, their presence reminds us how blessed we are to know better than cheer the deaths of men and women in uniform, 9-year-old girls and/or Ronnie James Dio.

This weekend, while the Westboro Baptist Church slithers into my neighborhood to offer its high-decibel condemnations of military heroes, children and former Monsters of Rock mid-carders, I will be playing in my flag football league’s playoffs. It’s not that I don’t have some choice words for Phelps, it’s just that I would rather sweat, wheeze and limp for three or four days than find a way to make bail.

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • DaveH
  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    There are idiots everywhere seeking publicity, and the more the liberal news media continues to give these hate filled satan lovers from Westboro free television exposure, the more they are empowered to keep doing their evil deeds. And these guys are pure evil, spewed out from the bowels of satan himself, and in the end, they will get rewarded with their just do. I myself am a Christian, and recognize Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour. And what these guys are doing, and claming to do in the name of the Lord, is an out and out lie. As the scriptures tell us, deliver the Gospel in love. These evil cats simply holding signs that says God hates fags, is a total opposite of what God tells us to do. They are false prophets, which the Bible warns us about. It says they are many, and are amongst you now. Please recognize these guys for who they are, they are satan’s emissaries, and they are only serving one purpose, to give Christianity a black eye. Recognize them for what they are, hate filled people filled with satan’s vileness. Its clear to see.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      These people will not convert any one to Christ because their actions are repulsive and they are repulsive.

      • 45caliber

        I agree.

      • Christin

        Agreed Nadzieja… unfortunately, they are giving TRUE Christianity a bad name…

        • Kitty

          My sign would say, “God Loves fags, but he ABHORES their behavior.” And “God doesn’t kill soldiers to get back at fags.”

    • jazzd4Jesus

      I totally agree! Unfortunately, Westboro Baptist will keep more of those who do not know Jesus away from Him than to bring them to Jesus.
      God is love; therefore, we must love.

      • Bob from Calif.

        As christians we should denounce the evil that has come over these people. At the same time we should pray for them. Pray that God will open their eyes to the truth of scripture. Pray for their soul so they don’t end up in hell for eternity.

        • Kate8

          I’m with Ben. The best way to deal with such misguided people is to not give them what they are after: attention. Much like the lunatic posters on these blogsites, if such folks were simply ignored, they’d go elsewhere in search of someone to engage them.

          • Kate8

            If no one showed up, there’d be no point to them being there.

          • JeffH

            Kate8, you got it.

  • Raymond

    WWJD? – From the Sermon on The Mount, Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
    Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
    Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
    Also, twice Jesus ran the money changers out of the temple area. Jesus loves but expects obedience to His laws and commands. He promises justice to all, sheep from the goats.

    • 45caliber

      The anti-Christians want to insist that Jesus will accept anyone regardless of what you do, even if you don’t accept Jesus as your savior. “After all, he loves me!”

      What they want us to forget is that Jesus will be the JUDGE.

      • Erik

        Your fairy tale beliefs are quite silly. They are also quite evil.
        Religion is responsible for more grief than any army or nation in history.
        Any REAL God would take a dim view of a person adopting the stance of “turn or burn”.
        Your religion is profoundly lame.

        • 45caliber

          Don’t worry, Erik. I won’t make fun of your lack of religion. While I do wish you might want to see reason about it, that is your own decision. God gives you that right – while you are alive. On the other hand, if you don’t want to be indignant about our belief in God, go somewhere else. We don’t want to listen to your rants about it.

          Personally, I’d rather believe in God and find out I’m wrong after I die than not believe in it and find out later that I was wrong.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            What Erik doesn’t realize is that either religion makes the man or man makes religion. Erik has made his own religion and his own god since nature abhors a vacuum.

          • JeffH

            45caliber…I’m with ya all the way.

            “Personally, I’d rather believe in God and find out I’m wrong after I die than not believe in it and find out later that I was wrong.”

          • http://naver samurai

            100% agree Jeff H. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://naver samurai

          Erik is another moron on this site.

          http://www.keepgodinamerica.com/JeffersonMemorial1.asp

          Keep in mind what he said and maybe you’ll learn something. (NOT!) FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • John Walker

    That is why the PGR came into being. You can go to youtube and watch tem in action. I ride with the PGR and they do a wonderful job, it is Americans standing up for what is right. Sad we don’t have more Americans doing the same thing, the TEA Party would be able to do more good if that was the case. I am afraid most Americans will sit and watch this country be destroyed.

    • JeffH

      John Walker, I’m afraid that I have to agree with you. Too many people still depend on the “headlines” as their only news source.

    • Mac

      What is PGR?

      • JeffH

        Patriot Guard Riders

        The Patriot Guard Riders is a diverse amalgamation of riders from across the nation. We have one thing in common besides motorcycles. We have an unwavering respect for those who risk their very lives for America’s freedom and security.
        http://www.patriotguard.org/

  • Nadzieja Batki

    If Phelps and his group want to demonstrate they can buy a piece of land or property and carry on their idiocy to their vile little hearts content.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Freedom allows for human stupidity and its consequences but it does not mean that we are to follow and wallow in this stupidity.

  • dan

    I get the same feeling of sadness when I see those misguided fools as
    I did when I saw people campaigning/voting for Barry the Con…..

  • Ranchman

    It’s a sad reality; the homosexual lobby, abortion rights groups and other unGodly organizations are very vocal and obnoxious with their messages of filth. Christians, on the other hand, are increasingly persecuted for our beliefs and unconstitutionally beat down. We’re told that our simple, calm and quiet message of love is “hate speech.” But we know how the story ends, we’ve read the Book! It’s just disheartening to see this once great nation, the “Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave” brought down to such a lowly stature in the eyes of the world. America is under assault from every direction; the U.N., other governments, radical islam, even our own president and his minions! It’s a natural reaction to want to strike back somehow, to stand and fight against this garbage. But we are told to fight enmity with love, to bless those who persecute us. We have to fight the good fight and remain faithful, but do it according to scriptural principles…it’s not always easy.

    • eddie47d

      It’s hard to tell which side you are on Ranchman since Westboro Church is always venting against homosexuals and abortion. You have to be at least kissing cousins. This is one of the few times I’m in total agreement with Ben Crystal and I gratefully thank him for taking on this church group, Mr Farrakhan and Montana militias.They all have their special brand of hate and disgust and should be equally ignored. Here in Denver 10 years ago the Klan and neo-Nazi’s protested outside the State Capital. Only 15 of them showed up but over 5,000 counter demonstrators told them to take a hike. They (anti-Klan) did this with signs and some yelling but kept a wide distance. We know the Klan is still out there but deep underground. About the same time this radio talk show host had the spokesman of the Communist Party of USA on his show. This spokesman said their point of view wasn’t being represented and wanted equal time and that is how he got invited on. The host asked him how many members the Communist Party had and this guy said 300 in all the US. That is how all these fringe groups manipulate our 1st Amendment when in reality they have few members. They make us think they have all this influence over us but are a parade of misfits making fools of us.

    • JeffH

      Ranchman, just ignore 47Stupids comments. You are obviously on the side of the flag and the “Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave”.
      Stick to your principles and continue to fight the good fight, FOR GOD AND COUNTRY.

      • eddie47d

        Well if it isn’t the little Nazi Jeff sticking his foot in his mouth again. Exposing you vile soul to all your “listeners” Did I hurt your feelings because I called you out again? Some of us aren’t afraid to take on the Klan and are willing to stick our necks out. Unlike you who troll in favor of those misfits. You never miss an opportunity when I mention the Klan and you always take an opposing view. Bingo!

        • JeffH

          ROFLMAO! Polly want a cracker? bbbaaarrraaaccckkk!

          • eddie47d

            There was no intelligent design in either one of your sour comments. I have come to expect nothing less from your ignorant ramblings. I see you got Samurai hooked too,another favorite name caller.

          • http://naver samurai

            Gee edduh, you mean you calling someone a NAZI isn’t the same thing? You need to practice what you preach. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://naver samurai

      Hooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! Follow Jeff H advice and ignore edduh. He’ll try to get you sidetracked, but we must stay on the straight and narrow path for our victorious cause. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Dan az

    The fact that they get publicity shows that the media is provoking them and trying to help tear this nation apart.To advance their cause all they need is the alphabet news to stir the pot while brewing.The PGR has done wonders to protect against every thing that they have done but not much mention of them,ex vets standing for the rights of our young soldiers that gave their all.You know the extremist that are a threat to the HMS.I have had the pleasure of helping them here but sadly they took one look and ran the other way.The funeral went off with out a hitch.If we give these so called baptist what they want then we are no better than they are.they need to be seen for what they are degenerates ignore them and they will not have a face.If you attack them then they achieve what they are there for,stand in front of them and block there view we out number them.I give credit to where it belongs with the men and women that go all over the country to stand in there way.Thank you PGR keep up the good fight!

    • 45caliber

      Dan:

      The media idea by covering them is basically to say, “This is what real Christians are like. So if you don’t like what they are doing you should not be a Christian. Christianity is bad!”

  • Star827

    As a Christian,I am sickened by other Christians who think we have to just lay down and take this kind of crap! “Jesus told us to love!” “Jesus tells us not to judge!” “We should be tolerant because that’s what Jesus would do!” BULL!!!
    As Raymond pointed out (THANK YOU,Raymond,by the way..)Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple TWICE.How many times has God sent His wrath down on those who mock Him,or use His name to justify their cause? Then you hear “Vengeance is mine,sayeth the Lord”.Yes,it is.But what it DOESN’T say is that we are to stand by and do nothing!In fact,it is our DUTY,as Christians,to reprove our neighbors of their sin!There’s a good article here – http://wesley.nnu.edu/related-traditions/lectures-to-professing-christians/chapter-4-reproof-a-christian-duty/ that explains that very issue.Now – should we bear hatred to out sinning neighbors? NO.Should we go to them out of love and chastise them? YES. That means – STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND GODLY! If you don’t,you are sinning against God and just as guilty as those committing the sin.This is the problem with TOLERANCE.What God teaches us is to RESPECT others our of His love for them.We are to love as He loves.Notice His love does NOT come without reproof for wrong-doing.Ignoring these people means you’re doing nothing.Sure,they are seeking attention.But I guarantee if they keep getting the type of attention that translates to discipline (that’s why we have laws-well,it’s supposed to be)-they won’t keep up their behavior for long.I for one am VERY thankful for the PRG and other groups who do what they do!They don’t go hurting anyone,they aren’t violent in their actions.They don’t do things that are illegal.They use a form of reproof to show these people that what they are doing is wrong.It’s time Christians took a stand instead of being a doormat!Those Christians who preach “tolerance” very obviously do not have the Holy Spirit in them,or they’d feel the righteous indignation that put the fire in Jesus’ belly when he ripped the Pharisees a new one and ran the money changers out of His Father’s house.Look up righteous indignation.It’s what more preachers should be talking about right now from the pulpit.
    Now I’m sure all you agnostics and atheists out there aren’t going to like what I’m saying here but quite honestly,I don’t care.It’s probably for some petty reason that I’m using scripture and Godly based principles to make my point.Get over it.I’m pretty sure that to some degree even agnostics and atheists have a “code of ethics” that they follow that tells them some things just ain’t right.So they don’t just stand by and do nothing either.
    Now I’ve rambled on here a bit,Y’all forgive me for that.But I for one can’t take it anymore.And I WON’T.It is my opinion,no one else should,either.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Thank you for saying this.

    • UPCHUCK

      God loves the sinners but not the sin

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Let us know when you can seperate one from the other.

        • Vicki

          How can you not see and know the difference?

          • Nadzieja Batki

            I do see and I do know the difference. My statement stands.

      • 45caliber

        UPCHUCK:

        You are right. BUT … just because Jesus loves the sinners doesn’t mean He will forgive them UNLESS they repent of their sins and ask Him for forgiveness. Too many won’t. And those that won’t will discover that while Jesus loves them, it won’t save them when He judges them.

        • http://naver samurai

          True that! True that! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Daniel

      Jesus never told the scribes and Pharisees that their whole nation was going to hell because of their sins. Nor did He say that God hated them. He drew a very clear distiction between people and their sins.

      Furthermore, there is a HUGE difference between reproving sin in a loving, godly manner and being mean, nasty, and hate-filled.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Go reread the Bible.No one gets a pass on their sins. God commanded go and sin no more, if you love me keep my commandments.
        If you reprove people, it doesn’t matter if you do it in love, you will not get their favorite person status.
        Phelps and his group are vile. Instead of sorting out their own lives,they meddle with other people’s lives.

        • 45caliber

          Nadzieja:

          You can get a pass on your sins – but ONLY if you accept Jesus with a contrite heart. He will forgive your sins. BUT … he also said, as you pointed out, “Go and sin no more.”

          Well, we do sin. But again, he will forgive if asked with a contrite heart. We can only do our best with his help. But assuming that you can sin after accepting him without any danger is the act of a fool.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Got your point.

          • http://naver samurai

            Once again, true that! True that! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Cawmun Cents

        Heres my take…..we pay too strict attention to the words and not the deed.The pharisees did exactly the same.They knew the laws but their hearts werent in it.There was no love.God is love.When you pay to much attention to the words,you become boggled down in meanings.You interpret this I interpret that,nobody gets anywhere.Its not about the words,its about the deed.His deed not our deeds.He did what it took.We are just given grace,because we believe that He did it for us.On the cross the last thing He said was,”It is finished.”When the period comes at the end of that sentence,nothing can be added or taken away.His deed,our grace.Does the Bible say we have to continue to jump through hoops,based on our own merit?No.John 3:16 clearly says we have salvation because we believe.It does not add deeds to that fact.His deed,our salvation.Based on what he did,not what we do.That my friends is reliance on Christ.If you try to rely on what you do,you have missed the mark.Your understanding is not what it should be.Does that mean you have a license to sin?Nope.But you will,and guess what often you cannot help it.Is that an excuse?No,merely a fact.We are at war with our evil hearts courtesy of Admas sin.Will we ever be rid of this burden?Of course.He will make us what we should be.That is His promise to us all.But let us not argue over the words,but remember the deed.His deed.Our propitiation.He is and was always the key,and the law breakers(you and me)are blessed with that key.Otherwise the door is locked.But if we believe that it was His deed that saved us,we will be welcomed by Him at the appropriate time.God is good…….

    • 45caliber

      Star:

      A good commentary. And a correct one, I believe. Further, the atheists who insist they aren’t influence by Christianity amuse me since they follow the Christian teachings in most things.

      We don’t have to beat up someone to reprove them. We can just tell them they are wrong and we don’t want them to continue this. Using loud speakers to shout them down is a good way. But we also don’t have to be rugs when someone else attacks us. I think a lot of this “Jesus loves us so you have to love us too” is actually an excuse to try to force us to let them do whatever they wish to do – including indoctrinating our youth to their way of thinking.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Good post. Cannot disagree with anything you have said.

      • Mac

        I wouldn’t say the atheists “follow Christian teachings” – if Christian Teachings coincide with what any person of good character would do, that just shows that people can be good without being Christian.

        • 45caliber

          Mac:

          Good character comes not from within but from some set of moral values from without. If it comes from within then you are basically a sociopath – or what used to be a phycopath. That is someone who sets his own standards of right and wrong based on his own understanding of what is right or wrong for him. And these values can change from moment to moment.

          The only real set of moral values in our society were based on Christianity for several hundred years although some other religious values have come about in the last 20/30 years. Atheists get them from their parents and from their aquantences – even if they don’t believe in God.

        • http://naver samurai

          Mac look at this and be awakened.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBaTpdyC48

          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Erik

      Nothing screams “entertainment”, like a rant from a foaming-at-the-mouth, bible banger.
      In accordance with your magic book, I’m going out this weekend to kill as many homosexuals as I can find. God will smile upon me, I’m sure.
      You take care, precious.
      XOXO

      • http://naver samurai

        Too much kool aid. It has fried your little lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist mind. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://n.cates@cox.net Norman F.

    Nobody has commented on the article, itself. Ben Crystal’s attitude of “run and hide” may be fine for him, but it allows the heroic dead and the mourning family to be insulted by a vile minded group who have more faith and determination to act on their beliefs than he does. If nothing else he could join those who stand quietly to block their antics from the sound and view of the devastated family.

    • Kate8

      Norman F. – I have found that when someone says or does something stupid (I include myself here), if you attack them for it they will become more staunch in their stance. If you simply ignore them without comment, eventually they will realize that they were being stupid.

      In America we have the right to speak and behave stupidly. Sooner or later, though, it comes back to bite.

      We always reap what we sow. It’s God’s Law, and it is true.

    • Mac

      You missed what Ben was implying; he is avoiding involvement in violence rather than giving the Phelpsians an audience. I would probably get violent myself trying to argue with those idiots.

  • 45caliber

    I went to the Army and Vietnam before going to college. A lot of vets were there. I attended a small college that wasn’t known nationally until they won some football games in my second year.

    The SDS (Students for a Democratic Society) and the Black Panthers enrolled about fifty students the following fall. And they worked together, to our surprise. They continued to try to “organize” the campus, primarily against the war in Vietnam.

    They didn’t get much success. Everyone ignored them. Until they announced the “Napalm the Dog Day”. They set up a big stand with giant speakers and tied a poor dog they picked up from the pound in front of it. On the speaker handrail were three quart fruit jars with wicks. I don’t know if they contained gasoline or not.

    The idea as announced was to throw gasoline on the dog and set it afire to “protest” the use of napalm on people. The ACTUAL idea was to get people to come out in opposition and then harrange them as to why they weren’t protesting napalm.

    I drove a big RED car at that time. Several of us vets put on our old jungle fatigues and pulled the car up about sixty feet from their stand as a couple of hundred indignant students showed up to stop the dog from being burned. We got out and set three or four jars WITH gasoline on the hood. One of the SDS people came over.

    “Oh, you are here to join our demonstration huh? Thanks!”

    “No, not hardly. We are going to let you throw the gas on the dog – and then we’re going to throw it on you.”

    The crowd heard the whole thing. Their demonstration decended to the crowd chanting, “THROW IT ON THE DOG! THROW IT ON THE DOG!”

    They went home. (We didn’t intend to actually throw it on them – but we did intend to throw it under the stand and burn it down.)

  • Sean from Montana

    Hey! Montanans are always being saddled with the incorrect notion that we’re home to lunatics like “the Montana chapter of the Moody Loners’ Militia” just because we were temporarily visited by the Freemen (whose leaders were from Arkansas) and Ted “Unibomber” Kaczynski. On behalf of the other five sane people here, I’d like to say that stereotypes hurt. Thank you, praise God and pass the ammunition.

  • 45caliber

    Ben: I know the feeling. Actually, for people like this, I would like to see the cities make a law that grants people the right to shut them down without having to make bail.

    I understand that a federal judge in Washington state several years ago ruled that burning the flag was a legal act under Freedom of Speech – but he added that others who disagreed had the right to do something about it. The next morning someone set a flag on fire on the courthouse steps. He was immediately tackled and knocked down as two men smothered the fire on the flag. When he sat up in some daze, they had already taken the flag and left. When he tried to protest, he was told the court ruling gave them the right to do what was necessary to keep it from being burned.

    I’m not totally sure this is true – but I’d like to see it passed. It would certainly be nice to encourage Phelps to eat his signs…

    • Vicki

      The problem with freedom of speech is you have to let people speak of things you don’t like. The person has every right to burn a copy of the symbol of that freedom as long as he OWNS the copy. If he tries to burn MY copy of that symbol he is going to be in a world of hurt.

      Tackling him and stealing his property is NOT an acceptable response should you happen to disapprove.

      Ignoring him is the best method.

      Freedom to speak does not include the right to an audience.

      • 45caliber

        Vicki:

        I will agree. Freedom of speech does require that everyone has the right to speak even if you don’t agree. Too bad the libs haven’t realized that, isn’t it?

  • Nadzieja Batki

    Anyone know this judges name? Good, common sense man from the sound of him.

  • Jeremy Leochner

    Never thought I would say this on this blog. But I couldn’t agree more. Good job Mr. Crystal.

  • Maryland FreeStater

    What do you have against Ronnie Dames Dio?

  • FreedomFighter

    Please guys dont let this trivial group distract you from the real monsters in America:

    Democrats

    These people are meaningless distractions from the real threat to all – Marxist takeover of America. The Progressive/Liberal-Socialist/Communist forces are godless, evil, enslavers of mankind. They respect no religion, faith or belief systme but there own. They will kill billions to achieve what they seek.

    The puppet masters are close to achieving world domination, America falls to them-the rest of the world has no chance whatsoever.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

    Ben:

    I really do not think the Savannah Police would consider arresting you for helping to feed one of the hungry nit-wits with Phelps. Especially when you also help to keep him / her / it hydrated in that oppressive GA heat. What a guy!

    I’m guessing you would be the next guest speaker for the City Council and receive The Key to the City.

    Speking of hydration, how ’bout having members of the Savannah Fire Department show up with their high-pressure hoses? It worked good on those long-haired, maggot-infested, dope smoking faggots in the 60s…

    • 45caliber

      Now that sounds good. It would also insure they had a bath at the same time.

  • jopa

    Eddie47; Stick to your guns because obviously you are on the side of the real American flag and just ignore Jeffh with his pro KKK agenda.Stick to your principles and continue to fight the good fight.FOR GOD AND COUNTRY, GOD BLESS AMERICA

    • 45caliber

      jopa:

      I think you have the sides wrong. The DEMOCRATS were the ones who started the KKK and pushed all the racism. They still do by insisting the blacks and Mexicans cannot function or compete with anyone else without the guidance of the Democrat Party.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I wouldn’t necessarily agree with Democrats being at fault or involved with the KKK. There certainly were originally the political party the KKK attached themselves too but that was only because they would never work with the party of Abraham Lincoln or Ulysses Grant that lead the Union to victory and destroyed the institution the original members of the KKK loved so much.

    • eddie47d

      Just read your comment Jopa … My exact sentiments.

    • http://naver samurai

      Having to steal other people’s lines moron? Believe me when I say ?FOR GOD AND COUNTRY” is the exact opposite of the lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxists on this site. They are the ones that are as full of hate for this country and its founding. Next thing you know, they’ll say the Constitution is a secular document, which is another lie. The libs always play the race card and keep people divided on many subject of today. They are the enemies of this nation and not we patriots. I guess its true that libs don’t let things, like the truth, stand in the way of a good rant. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • eddie47d

        Your hateful rants don’t make you an American and I find you rather disgusting anymore.

        • http://naver samurai

          I can’t help what you think or feel edduh, that’s true. You have to understand that it is people, like jopa, that keep this country disorganized and make it weaker. Not just by our government mishandling things at the top, but also in the eyes of our allies and enemies. If we had a president that was like Reagan, then North Korea, Iran, etc., wouldn’t be a problem. Since this post is about racism and the KKK, just tell me why you libs can say crap like this and get away with it, but if someone else does they get raked over the coals? Why didn’t Harry Reid have to answer for his racist remarks, hmmm? I know that if any GOP or other party candidate would have done this, then they would have been run out of town. Like I said before, you calling a fellow patriot (Jeff H.) a NAZI doesn’t add to your credibility, it detracts from it. Notice I never called you a name in this post, so can you do the same thing and practice what you preach? The gauntlet lies at your feet. Will you be a man and accept the challenge? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            I forgot to mention that at least I’ve posted some sources, can’t you do the same? Do we have to always read your rants with no facts or sources to back them up? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • jopa

    Ben Chrystal: Great article and almost everyone agrees with your commentary.When I was reading it the sun came out here in Pennsylvania for the first time in days.Must be some sort of sign.Have a good one.

  • jopa

    45cal.Right you are in that the KKK was started by the Democrats but after the Civil Rights Act was passed in 1964 the KKK abandoned the Democratic party and now they are Republicans.I am not aware of your Black and Mexican issues would you care to explain?

    • JeffH

      jopa, any explanation would most likely go over your head considering where it is buried. By the way, and I know this question is off subject, do you by any chance have double eyelids over each eye? If not, how do you keep the sand out?

    • 45caliber

      jopa:

      I have no trouble with either group. I do sometimes have trouble with individuals but not due to their race. Considering that I live in Texas and work with them daily, I couldn’t work if I did have that problem. Our church has members of most races. Actually, from what I’ve seen, the biggest racists live in the NE and in California. Further, ALL races have members who are racist even though most try to say the whites are the only ones. My major problem is with liberals – who as far as I know don’t consist of any single race. I could be wrong, however, since I’ve often wondered if liberals belong to the same race – Homo Sapiens – that I do.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Dont worry Caliber. We liberals are of the same species as you. And your right liberalism like conservatism is an ideology of any and all races and creeds.

  • jerry mcdonald

    having graduated in 1964, i can assure you,i would never have helped any black,hispanic,women, or anyone else take away my white man rights.AS the naacp,la rosa,muslims,and anyone else subjugate my freedoms, i certainly await the revolution that will surely follow this period of time.I’d rather be dead than have these dictators of both parties,enslave me.

  • DaveH

    Obama is calling for Israel to return to its pre-1967 borders.
    Okay, how about the US Government returning to its pre-1967 size, 28% of the GDP instead of 40% of GDP? Yay!

    • Pete

      Ben,

      You should reach out to Rev. Phelps and his congregation. Theologically the Baptist from Westboro are taking a stand against Homosexuality. They are trying to wake people up – in a very extreme way ! It seems that America’s time to repent has ended – according to them. They honestly believe that God is punishing our nation – right now !!!

      You can’t put them in the same category as KKK or other racially based organizations. I heard that Rev. Phelps use to work very hard for the American Civil Rights movement.

      I have to classify them as the ” I’m mad as hell, and not going to take it anymore” christians who CRACKED mentally because of all the social pressures.

      I’m not for protesting at military funerals !!! But let’s look at it from their standpoint. Is God punishing our country because we tolerate homosexuals and pedophiles ?

      Ben, you ought to go talk to them. If it’s not a military funeral – How about asking them if you can carry a sign (if they will let you)……

    • Pete

      Sorry DaveH – I put my response to Ben in he wrong spot.

      This is a good time to observe, scientifically, evidence for the existence of God. Usually when a President gets so bold as to making statements like this, our country gets hit by a natural disaster of some sort. I think Bush said something like what Obama said – and then Katrina hit.

      If a person is an atheist, this is a good time to observe.

      I personally believe in the existence of God. But that’s subjective ? Does my belief in a so called “myth” just help me to become a more law abiding citizen ?

  • http://GBVieto@hotmail.com George B Vieto

    The Westboro Baptist Church gives Christians a very bad name. The media would be wise to ignore them.

    • JeffH

      Their actions alone make them faux christians at best.

      • http://naver samurai

        The only reason I can think of, as far as the media goes, is because they aren’t real Christians (CINO’S) and tend to back up what is being said by the secular humanists of this day. They are following the orders of Obama bin Laden, George Soros, and many other fools. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • jopa

    45cal.I guess we have both been around long enough to have been a witness to racism on both sides.It has definitely improved over the years but there is still work to be done.The area where I grew up was 99.99 per cent white with one Eskimo in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula.I never even saw a non-white until I went to Detroit when I was seventeen.The Eskimo was a friend of mine though.Sure would be nice if everyone got along, except for here, that would be too boring.We need views from both sides. Keeps the mind alert and informed.Have a good one.

  • http://www.yourdomainpick.com SolidTartan

    Aww c’mon Ben, I will bake a cake with a file in it ;)

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