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Satire Be Damned, Fluke In Running For Time Person Of The Year

November 28, 2012 by  

Satire Be Damned, Fluke In Running For Time Person Of The Year
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Sandra Fluke is in the running for Time magazine's Person of the Year.

A Chinese news site got egg on its face when it failed to realize that satire news site The Onion was only joking when it named Kim Jong Un as the sexiest man of 2012. But some Americans are likely wondering if the once iconic Time magazine is taking cues from the satire site as well with its inclusion of Sandra Fluke as a contender to be named its Person of the Year.

Here’s what the magazine says about her:

The daughter of a conservative Christian pastor, Sandra Fluke, 31, became a women’s-rights activist in college and continued her advocacy as a law student at Georgetown. After she complained about being denied a chance to testify at a Republican-run House hearing on insurance coverage for birth control, Rush Limbaugh called Fluke a “slut.” Democrats and many Republicans reacted with outrage, and the left made Limbaugh’s slur Exhibit A in what they called a GOP “war on women.” Fluke, meanwhile, weathered the attention with poise and maturity and emerged as a political celebrity. Democrats gave her a national-convention speaking slot as part of their push to make reproductive rights a central issue in the 2012 presidential campaign — one that helped Barack Obama trounce Mitt Romney among single women on Election Day.

If being a pawn used to spark political meme war is one of the Time editors’ requirements for becoming the most influential people on Earth, Fluke certainly is a high achiever.

This author suggests a rewrite of the aforementioned biography as follows:

Sandra Fluke, 31, helped the Democratic Party to avert American voters’ attention from a failing economy, continued illegal wars and an ever-growing Federal government long enough to get the guy who promised to change things and failed miserably in his first term reelected. She did this by brilliantly confusing the more troglodytic among the GOP into believing that this election was more about unborn children than the economy and a growing government that will eventually make it useless to worry over the rights of potential fetuses, as it strips grown men of those rights that are God-given and Constitutionally guaranteed. By creating memes such as “War on Women,” the Democrats were able to use Fluke’s Congressional testament to promiscuity to highlight idiots like GOP Senatorial candidates Todd Akin and Richard Murdock, who insisted on discussing how forcible they felt a rape must be to be considered legitimate. This left little room for the fiscal conservative arm of the GOP to have its message of responsibility heard in any meaningful way, clearing the way for government to “legitimately” rape Americans worse than ever before.

At press time of this article, Fluke was trailing behind Kim Jong Un — also in the running for Time’s Person of the Year — in a reader poll on the magazine’s website. The poll has no bearing on who the editors choose. Who has money on Fluke?

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • rendarsmith

    “weathered the attention with poise and maturity”??? She refused to accept his apology! She is nothing but a spoiled opportunist looking to cash in through the government at the tax-payers expense! She went on a Euro-trip shortly before testifying before Congress, I wonder if the government paid for that.

    I wish the media had covered Sharon Osbourne and the other cohosts of “The Talk” after they laughed at that mutilated man like they did this incident. But I guess when men are mocked nobody cares….

    • Mable8

      I guess it didn’t matter when hillybilly clinton and her staffed laughed and danced around the room when Muburak was toppled and murdered. When I heard the video, it made me sick. Muburak may not have been the best, but he was our ally and his death, funded by the liar in chief, has led to a worsening situation in the Middle East. It’s no wonder that a media corporation like Time would announce a person of the year to be one of debauchery and ill-repute.

      • eddie47d

        Still lying Mabel? Mubarak was not murdered! [comment has been edited]

      • eddie47d

        I guess they didn’t like me calling Mabel crazy .

      • Samdromeda

        This is what happens when the rich fund Eugenics in an effort to control the population. Birth control came out of wealth. It was funded by the heiress of International Harvester. Now the reality is here and our women are demanding it. It is also big business for the pharmaceutical companies. Planned parenthood is branching out to other nations that do not need their services. A healthy nation does not need institutionalized eugenics. The end game…stop conception..stop birth…at a nominal fee. There has not been a tool or a weapon invented that has not been used. Birth control and abortion are either tools or weapons they will either build the community or destroy it. It depends n your perspective.

      • http://Yahoo.com Bill

        No Eddie – they don’t mind you calling her crazy. They like most of us just don’t like you and wish you would go somewhere else to write your ignorant and stupid thoughts.

      • eddie47d

        So Mabel lies and you don’t catch that Bill . Maybe you and your fellow “Conservatives” are the problem and are the “ignorant” ones. I would say you then don’t have any credibility either.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Time magazine just condemned Fluke to being a perpetual dry well so why is she needing the government to pay for her birth control pills.

    • old hillbilly

      We’ve been “Flucked” again – a truly degenerate icon created by our degenerate government controlled media. Without the media freaks, she’d be just another fly on the outhouse door, waiting in line to get in for a free lunch.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Larry.Henry.Carter.Center Larry Carter Center

        it is Rush Limboss who is the degenerate and his words DO NOT RESEMBLE APOLOGY AT ALL …. he has not confessed to soliciting a felony sex video and prostituting Sandra Fluke NOR HAS HE ADMITTED THE MEDICAL NEEDS OF THE PILLS which are not sex pills….. reckless ruthless and insane, Rush Limboss is the Hitler of Radio who should have his FCC license pulled & forced onto pay to hear radio with Howard Stern

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Larry Carter Center, when you stop emoting like a female then maybe you will have something to say that can be listened to.

      • JUKEBOX

        I believe that they should have put the guy who owns the “BUNNY RANCH” in Nevada ahead of this woman, for he does run a legitimate successful business.

      • old hillbilly

        LCC
        Take a chill pill & turn your radar on, you might get pissed off when you land in the outhouse repository.

  • Lindy

    Let us remember that Time also had Hitler as man of the year.

    • Howard

      Very salient point!

    • eddie47d

      The Time cover is strictly the person who has the most enfluence in that years events and not necessarily an endorsement of that person. Time never endorsed Hitler.

      • Hedgehog

        Gee Eddie, I’m confused, (enfluence?). Did you mean influence or effluent. If you meant effluent, she definitely has a chance, but then so do you and O’dogma.

  • Aurelio Nunez

    It’s sad. But when you are pregnant by rape or consensual and abort the baby, no matter
    how you feel you have murdered a human being. That is wrong and someday the price will be paid.

    • eddie47d

      Rape by any name is still rape and not acceptable and those who endorse that behavior are the true barbarians.

      • WILDFIRE

        EDDIE showing his true ignorance by completely missing the point of NUNEZ. Nunez opinion is regardless to procreation coming from rape or consensual is no excuse for taking the vengeance out on the innocence of a baby by murdering it. The baby is penalized, when the penalty should fall upon the woman and the rapist for not taking responsibility for their own actions.
        I hold a different opinion when it comes to rape, but the fact that you spew your ignorance and then have the audacity to call someone barbaric clearly displays the imbecile you really are. You are the unwanted step child that should be seen and not heard if you can’t keep up with conversations of the adults.

      • eddie47d

        So Wildfire is saying a woman is responsible for getting raped. That is seldom the case but you keep thinking like a manly ADULT.

      • phideaux

        He never said that eddie and you had to deliberately twist what he did say into a pretzel to draw that conclusion.

  • Paul Wells

    Gee, there must be some reason why I let my subscription lapse to Time….20 years ago! I believe someone at the National Inquirer must have given up their day job to go to work at Time magazine…or is this what we have fallen to?

    • Tom

      Frankly, the Inquirer has a better rep for news reporting NOW than Time does.

      • Ted Crawford

        That’s very true Tom! They actually broke the Edwards case! Time hasn’t broke a legitimate case in 30 years!

      • Bill

        The Inquirer is the largest circulation publication in the US. It just shows you that BS sells better than the truth.

  • joszsrepublicanpage

    This is the dumbest slut to come down the walk in many years ,,,,,,,,,,,

  • Fedup

    Looks like someone may have paid for her to get some new teeth – we know she couldn’t afford them herself since she’s broke from buying contraceptives!

  • marcjeric32

    Why not a person of the year for that slut? With the taxpayers funding her sexual exploits she can screw various men an average 90 times per month.

    • Bill

      She has that boner stopper look. I think she is just dreaming by wanting her contraceptives paid for

  • Steve E

    If Fluke wants money. She should get a job a the Mustang Ranch.

  • Combat seabee

    She only needs $2.00 for birth control. Super glue her knees together!

  • Ted Crawford

    While Roberts and Christie, richly deserve their place, and Netanyahu, Ryan, Rove, Romney, Adelson have choosen to be all Public figures, If I were the Father of Malala Yousafzai, I’d sue the Times for ‘Defamation of Character’! This poor girls problems were caused by people that the Editors of Time support and defend on a daily basis!
    I tried to write in Ted Kaczynski, he has a higher body count than most of the rest, but couldn’t!

    • eddie47d

      Time Magazine has never endorsed the Taliban or Islamic extremists Ted. Does FOX News endorse the looming invasion of Iran because they mention it so much! Its called reporting the news! Since Netanyahu endorses that war maybe he will make next years cover. Would that please you? Malala was considered and she is even being put in for the Nobel Peace Prize.

  • Dad

    Birth control is not a ‘medical’ issue, it’s entitlement welfare. In the name of “all” women, she will divert limited Obamacare money from serious disease treatment and dying people… People will die because of this.
    For what? …so the they can engage in their recreational activity? This person is totally disgusting… and clueless!
    This should be titled “killing grandma and granpa.”

    • eddie47d

      There are no death panels DAD no matter how you paint it. Sexually transmitted diseases are an urgent and important issue and prevention of those diseases are critical. So who is “clueless”?

      • Opal the Gem

        You are eddie because the pill does NOTHING to prevent the transmission of STDs and in fact can be said to promote their spread.

      • Flashy

        Actually Opal…they do inhibit some STDs … you should read up on the subject if you are going to go around spouting trash …

      • eddie47d

        Get a grip Opal prophylactics are also used for birth control. [comment has been edited]

      • Opal the Gem

        Flushy inhibit is NOT the same as prevent.

        eddie the discussion has been about the pill not condoms.

    • Flashy

      Dad…I know several women who use BC pills to stabilize the menopausal symptoms they’re going through ….

      • GregS

        Flashy, your comment is really a moot point, because the payment for birth control pills that are prescribed for truly medical conditions (i.e. NOT contraception) has NEVER been an issue, not even with the Catholic Church.

        Contraception is NOT healthcare. It’s birth control, stupid.

        • http://www.facebook.com/Larry.Henry.Carter.Center Larry Carter Center

          another BIG LIE …. women are denied pills all the time for medical needs BECAUSE THE EXACT SAME PILLS are for birth control…. the Vatican is deadly serious about letting women die or become sterile from conditions easily treated by abortion or given the pills…. the Nazi Pimp Pope Joe Ratzinger alias [comment has been edited] will not tell the world who his rapist priests are either, so where ever they get transferred, it is up to the victim network to check each priest’s background when one moves into a new town

      • GregS

        Larry, it’s YOU who’s “lying:”

        Larry Carter Center says:

        “…women are denied pills all the time for medical needs…”

        Wrong! Where are your references to back that statement up? Any pharmacy would be required to provide the medication indicated by a valid prescription by a doctor. Any refusal to do so would be illegal.

        Larry Carter Center says:

        “…the Vatican is deadly serious about letting women die or become sterile from conditions easily treated by abortion or given the pills…”

        Wrong again! Again, where are your references to back that statement up? The Vatican has NEVER come out against abortion to save the life of the mother, or to use birth control pills for medical conditions. In fact, here is what the US Conference Of Catholic Bishops has to say about this, in regard to the HHS mandate:

        “Contrary to some media claims, Catholic ethical directives on health care (and the health plans based on them) allow use of medications for serious non-contraceptive purposes, even if the same drugs could also be prescribed for contraception. The idea that respect for Catholic moral objections to contraception could endanger access to such drugs for use in healing disease is a red herring.”

        More facts about the HHS mandate and its relation to the Catholic Church can be found by clicking here.

        Larry Carter Center says:

        “…the Nazi Pimp Pope Joe Ratzinger alias BENEdick will not tell the world who his rapist priests are either, so where ever they get transferred, it is up to the victim network to check each priest’s background when one moves into a new town”

        This statment has absolutely NOTHING to do with what is being discussed in this thread.

    • Charlie R

      Hey Dad:
      I think you missed something. The sick and the elderly are the biggest consumers of health care service and they are not considered productive as tax payers. As you say: It is Obama’s plan is to curtail medical care to the elderly ( Death Panels) and thus save huge amounts of money. So, therefore there will be ample finds to provide BC pills and keep working women in the tax base and contributing tax revenue. Pretty smart isn’t it? All this in the name of progressive liberalism and socialized thinking which the good of “the state” and Big Government.

      • Flashy

        Enough with those “death panels” they never existed, it’s all a huge lie, and shows nothing but the speaker is spouting nonsense.

  • Flashy

    These comments above are why the TP extremists and the American Taliban have been soundly slapped down in the 2012 elections and their social poisons will once again be marginalized and the speakers of such laughed at.

    • Patriot1776

      Yes Flashy, today in America truth and morality are distained by the liberals in power and the clueless minions like you. There will be a day of reckoning for all.

      When obama won the nobel peace prize simply for being elected with no accomplishments to his name and proceded to inflame racial tensions and class warfare along with drone murders and continuing wars it was an indication of how low society had already gotten. Now with the likes of Ms. Fluke in the running for Time’s Person of the Year, what an endorsement of failure and moral decline.

      • Ted Crawford

        We can always count on ole flushme…er..flashy’s Alinsky rant!

      • Flashy

        Failure and moral decline? truth and morality are distained by the liberals?

        Whatever you’re smokin’ today patriot..it’s good stuff. the power grab attempt by the American Taliban is beaten back. no doubt it will not go away as religious extremists see the imposition of their ow brand f morality as a jihadist mission. The use of Islamic words is no mistake…they are purposefully used as there is scant difference between an Islamic fundamentalist and a christian fundamentalist. Both see their religious mores as the ones to impose and force upon society as a whole.

        to me, having extreme christian mores foisted upon me is a failure of morality. Many aspects of the American Taliban’s ‘scriptural meanings’ are immoral to me. You want to live an immoral lifestyle following the teachings of a fundamentalist cult? be my guest..knock yourself out for all i care.

        Treating someone different, hampering and limiting their freedoms because it offends some twisted sense of moral code you adhere to? uh uh … you insist on some sort of preferential treatment (i.e. putting up christian religious symbols on public property…property owned by all)… then stand aside and let all have the same opportunity to the same extent. You put up a manger on public property this year…then you’d best be prepared to allow the Krishnas, the Muslims, the Buddhists, the Scientologists, the Wiccans etc .. all having the same access and opportunity to set up their displays and propaganda scenes.

        Nay…the failure of morality we have had, and have discarded and soundly rejected in the recent elections. Truth and morality is not disdained by the non-extremist contingent..they are embraced. Only the extremists would say differently.

        So…will you accept my setting up my religious scenery next to your manger this year? Side by side when any religious christian XMas scene is insisted upon on public property?

        How “moral” are you?

      • Opal the Gem

        Flushy is just an admitted paid shill who comes on here to make his inane comments in an attempt to obfuscate the issues being discussed.

    • Bill

      Showing off your intelligence again, Flashy?

      • Flashy

        Better than you showing off your lack of any …

      • Samdromeda

        Sin has a universalist bent. Everyone else is doing it is not a moral argument. It is a demand for access to the minds, behavior and control of humans. Both parties suffer from this and will share the same fate. There is a way that seems right to a political party but the ends thereof are the ways of national disaster and enslavement. Only God’s mercy will preserve the future generations from the murderous chaos that permeates our political process.

      • Flashy

        Samdromeda … one question…whose god?

        • Samdromeda

          The one that you and I were made to look like.

      • Flashy

        Really? So there’s a picture hanging about that we can compare with? Don’t know about you…but i highly doubt i look like any god … and i doubt you look like your god either. But then, i’ve never met your god. Have you?

    • Steve E

      They were not TP. They were TP impostors. A true TP person does not have any social issues as far as government is concerned. A true TP is for fiscal responsibility, personal responsibility, and smaller government.

  • Ken barker

    hmmmmmmmmm. seems there’s always something to get angry about

  • Mable8

    It’s a pretty darn sad state of affairs when big name ragmags consider a common street walker is to be given the title “Person of the Year.” Perhaps this is why Time has become a big name ragmag—they lost their way long time ago. While they are at it, when the finale is over, Time ought to do her justice by putting her photo on the cover wearing the standard dress of pasties and fig leaf—a real tribute to sl**s.

  • Tom Cook

    Time is nothing but a failed liberal rag rapidly going the way of liberal rag Newsweek. Sandra Fluke, a.k.a. “mattressback” is a nothing. She is a loathsome airhead whose very existence is meaningless which is why she is beloved by liberals who hate nobility. Liberals hate honor and courage. Liberals elevate anything small and dishonest and contemptible to a status of revered icon. Liberals adore the ugly, the mean, the filthy, the depraved. Mattressback can stand with the liberal pantheon of Che Guevara and Fidel Castro and Mao and Stalin and the white negro.

    • eddie47d

      What’s the matter Tom did you have a rough day and on top of that you got rejected last night. So a man who trolls for sex is inspiring in his conquests but a woman who wants to protect herself is a slut. So many Mary Poppins myths to bust and so little time to do it.

      • phideaux

        Quit projecting your fantacies on others eddie it tells us way more about you than most want to know.

  • Paul

    Fluke is a symptom of what is wrong with Americans. The Democrats are the best at “political theatre” and Fluke was their main act. Americans who are influenced more by perception than what is reality voted that way. Fluke is an example of the Democrats lack of depth on any issue. And since most Americans, especially the youth, single women, blacks, Latinos, and the LGBT lobby are easily swayed by the demagogic. We are doomed as a Republic, because I see no way this is going to change.

    • Joan

      How right you are about whats wrong with America today!! To put a woman who wants the gov. to pay for her birth control pills on Times magazine is very sad & laughable. Why not our Troops this makes sense to me.

      • Flashy

        Joan…let me ask. if birth control wasn’t the reason for the prescription…(BC pills do have other medicinal uses ya know) … would you object to the inclusion in health coverage?

      • eddie47d

        Positive images of US troops have been on the cover of Time Magazine at least 25 times. They were also Person of the Year in 2004.

      • http://yahoo.com Joann Flanagan

        Well the Times made Adolph Hitler,Margarite Sangers’ buddy,and fellow advocate of Eugenics,Man Of The Year during the Last Century.
        So maybe we shouldn’t be surprised if they do likewise with Sandra Fluke in this Century.
        After all Planned Parenthood and the nationalist Socialist Party are both offshoots of Galtons’ infamous Eugenics Movement.
        Joann Flanagan

      • eddie47d

        Joan that was brought up 7 hours ago and answered!

  • Brenda

    PUT CHASTITY BELTS ON ALL UNMARRIED WOMEN; SAFEST WAY TO KEEP IDIOTS FROM REPRODUCING

    • Flashy

      Brenda….are you suggesting such would be appropriate for health care coverage?

      And what about MY religious rights concerning sex and non abstinence thereof?

      • Hedgehog

        Flashy;
        You have a religion that promotes sex and has a non-abstinence clause? What are you wasting your time on this website for? Get out there and proselytize!

      • Flashy

        Hedgehog….haven’t you heard I’m Dean of the Flashy’s School for Wayward girls and Soiled Women? Let me know if you have a faculty app in and i’ll take a look at it. Or perhaps you’d like to be a patron and before you donate, have a half hour or so in a private interview with one of the students?

      • Hedgehog

        Sorry I can’t take you up on those offers Flashy. My wife would kill me and I really do want to celebrate my 71st birthday this year the day before the end of the world.

  • Don

    Sandra Fluke, Sandra Fluke, i know that name now. She is the spoiled little Nymphomaniac that the Obama regime used in his propaganda clip. Such an American treasure she is. Anyone ready for sloppy seconds?

    • http://www.facebook.com/Larry.Henry.Carter.Center Larry Carter Center

      anyone who continues the Rush Limboss lies against Sandra Fluke is incompetent ignorant bigoted patriarchal criminal traitors to our US Constitution, either unwilling to learn the facts of her testimony or reckless street criminals eager to rape women of their honest reputations 843-926-1750 THAT GOES for Don here with his IQ under 100, unlikely to confess of his rape fantasies and crimes such as Mittless Obombney DID CONFESS since age 17 attempted gay rape, assault with a deadly pair of scissors, theft of police clothing, attempted kidnapping and impersonating a police officer ALL FELONY’S CONFESSED BY the Romney crime family 843-926-1750

      • Frank Kahn

        OK, LCC, 99% of that post was mindless ranting and so much twisting of the truth that it can be called lies.

        I don’t know Fluke, don’t want to either. I have never had sex with her, don’t want to either. Never paid for her BC pills, don’t want to either. IF, and I say IF, she can’t afford the $20 or whatever it cost to buy them, then she needs to learn A. Abstinence, B. Rhythm or C. How to find an Honest and Honorable man.

        Her contention was not about BC pills for medical reasons (non pregnancy), it was so she could have unsafe, unprotected (by condom) sex without fear of getting pregnant.

        Is she a SLUT, I dont know. How many men has she had as partners, I dont know. How many different partners does it take to be classified as a slut, I dont know. But, more than 10 men is loose, more than 20 is (sl)easy. Making BC pills a political issue (democrats) is playing partisan politics aimed at diverting the public attention from real, more important issues. Calling people, that dont want to pay for her BC pills WOMEN HATERS, is a stupid lie.

        Calling a forced haircut assault with a deadly weapon is absurd, and attempting to have someone prosecuted for it would be a crime.

        • Samdromeda

          The real issue is whether or not the nanny state is going to go all the way with their harlot style relationship with the Insurance and Drug industries. After all we have already polluted the blood streams of most if not all of America. This includes seemingly nonlethal military germ warfare experimentation. Birth control is not the issue but whether or not the state or the religious conservatives have control over reproductive rights. At the base of this is whether or not women are property or citizens. Is reproduction a right of ejaculation or is it a Women’s Health Issue. Who has control over the building of our nation, the women or the men? I see a lot of male sluts out there. There are birth control pills for men.
          Without knowing the purpose of sex we are just a nation of fornicators and adulterers. i hear that adultery is big business these days. After the cash flow who cleans up the carnage? Will the men demand that the insurance plans pay for their birth control pills? Will your wife reassure you by saying, “It’s okay honey, he is on the pill.”

          • Frank Kahn

            Wow, that is a hard post to parse.

            “The real issue is whether or not the nanny state is going to go all the way with their harlot style relationship with the Insurance and Drug industries. After all we have already polluted the blood streams of most if not all of America. This includes seemingly nonlethal military germ warfare experimentation. Birth control is not the issue but whether or not the state or the religious conservatives have control over reproductive rights. At the base of this is whether or not women are property or citizens. Is reproduction a right of ejaculation or is it a Women’s Health Issue. Who has control over the building of our nation, the women or the men? I see a lot of male sluts out there. There are birth control pills for men.
            Without knowing the purpose of sex we are just a nation of fornicators and adulterers. i hear that adultery is big business these days. After the cash flow who cleans up the carnage? Will the men demand that the insurance plans pay for their birth control pills? Will your wife reassure you by saying, “It’s okay honey, he is on the pill.””

            The first part

            “The real issue is whether or not the nanny state is going to go all the way with their harlot style relationship with the Insurance and Drug industries. After all we have already polluted the blood streams of most if not all of America.”,

            THIS APPEARS TO BE AN ATTACK ON HEALTH CARE ISSUES THAT PIT CONVENTIONAL VS HOLISTIC TREATMENTS. WHILE THE STYLE OF HEALTH CARE YOU CHOOSE IS IMPORTANT, WHAT YOUR INSURANCE COVERS IS A MATTER BEST DECIDED BY YOU AND THAT COMPANY. REGARDLESS OF COVERAGE, YOU STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHICH METHODS OF TREATMENT YOU WILL ALLOW. THIS QUOTED PORTION OF YOUR POST IS NOT GERMANE TO THE TOPIC

            Next: “This includes seemingly nonlethal military germ warfare experimentation.”

            HOW IS THIS RELATED TO BIRTH CONTROL DRUGS AND/OR INSURANCE?

            Several parts to this next one:

            “Birth control is not the issue but whether or not the state or the religious conservatives have control over reproductive rights.”.

            First of all, saying REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS is misleading, it should be REPRODUCTIVE ISSUES. Second, if we stay on the topic of BIRTH CONTROL, then BIRTH CONTROL is part of the ISSUE. However, it is the question of, WHO PAYS for BIRTH CONTROL that is the main issue. Sticking to that MAIN ISSUE, the conservatives are against state sponsored (forced payment by non participants) payments.

            The rest of your post degenerates into a MALE BASHING possibly MALE HATING diatribe.

            “At the base of this is whether or not women are property or citizens.”

            NO, ONLY IN THE LIBERAL MANTRA IS THIS THE BASIS OF THE ARGUMENT. A WOMAN IS A CITIZEN, HOWEVER SHE IS, OR SHOULD BE, A RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN AND THEREFOR SHOULD PAY FOR HER OWN BIRTH CONTROL SYSTEM.

            ” Is reproduction a right of ejaculation or is it a Women’s Health Issue.”

            FIRST PART MAKES NO SENSE, REPRODUCTION IS A PROCESS NOT A RIGHT. SECOND PART, PREGNANCY (NOT REPRODUCTION) CAN BE A HEALTH ISSUE IN SOME INSTANCES, BUT RECREATIONAL SEX SAFETY IS NOT A HEALTH ISSUE.

            ” Who has control over the building of our nation, the women or the men?

            CONTROL, BY GENDER, OF THE BUILDING OF OUR NATION HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC. IF YOU OBJECT TO HAVING MEN RUNNING THE COUNTRY, VOTE FOR JUST WOMEN. BUT, YOU WILL FIND THAT MANY WOMEN HAVE THE SAME VIEWS ON BIRTH CONTROL AS THE MEN DO.

            “I see a lot of male sluts out there.”

            YES, SLUT, IS A GENDER BIASED WORD THAT WE GENERALLY ATTRIBUTE TO FEMALES. IF YOU USE THE SAME GUIDELINE FOR MALES, THEN THERE ARE MANY MALE SLUTS.

            “There are birth control pills for men.”

            THIS HAS NO REAL RELEVANCE TO THE ISSUE. REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE BIRTH CONTROL PILL IS FOR A MAN OR WOMAN, IT IS STILL THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PARTICIPANT TO PAY FOR CONTRACEPTION, NOT THE STATE.

            “Without knowing the purpose of sex we are just a nation of fornicators and adulterers.”

            KNOWING THE PURPOSE OF SEX WILL NOT CHANGE THAT. UNLESS YOU ARE SAYING THAT SEX SHOULD BE LIMITED TO JUST PROCREATION, THERE IS NO REASON TO THINK THAT KNOWING THE PURPOSE WOULD REDUCE THE FREQUENCY OF SEX. YOU ARE MARGINALLY CORRECT ON THE FORNICATORS AND ADULTERERS PART, HOWEVER BY DEFINITION ADULTERERS IS MORE SPECIFIC AND REMOVES A LARGE PORTION OF SEXUAL PARTICIPANTS FROM ITS CLASSIFICATION. ONLY A MARRIED PERSON CAN BE AN ADULTERER, WHEREAS BOTH MARRIED AND SINGLE PEOPLE CAN BE FORNICATORS. SO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BETTER TO SAY “FORNICATORS OR ADULTERERS”.

            “i hear that adultery is big business these days.”

            IN WHAT WAY IS ADULTERY A BUSINESS? ARE THEY SELLING ADULTERY? IF SO, WHO IS THE CUSTOMER?

            “After the cash flow who cleans up the carnage?

            CASH FLOW FOR WHAT? AND, WHAT CARNAGE ARE YOU REFERRING TO?

            “Will the men demand that the insurance plans pay for their birth control pills?”

            THIS MIGHT BE A MATTER OF HOW THE BENEFIT OF BIRTH CONTROL IS HANDLED IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE POLICY. IF THE POLICY SAYS THAT BIRTH CONTROL PILLS ARE COVERED, THERE SHOULD BE NO DIFFERENTIATION ON THE GENDER OF THE RECIPIENT.

            “Will your wife reassure you by saying, “It’s okay honey, he is on the pill.”

            WHAT IN GODS NAME IS THIS PART ABOUT? DID YOUR WIFE TELL YOU “IT’S OKAY HONEY, SHE IS ON THE PILL”? WHY WOULD A MANS WIFE TELL HER HUSBAND THAT SEX WITH A MAN IS OKAY BECAUSE HE IS ON THE PILL? OR, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE WIFE IS REASSURING HER HUSBAND THAT SHE WONT GET PREGNANT BECAUSE THE MAN SHE HAD SEX WITH WAS ON THE PILL? I THINK YOU MEANT THAT THE WIFE WAS TELLING THE HUSBAND IT IS OKAY FOR THEIR DAUGHTER TO HAVE SEX BECAUSE HER BOYFRIEND(S) ARE ON THE PILL.

            So, now that I have attempted to parse and clarify your post, I would like to insert my views (opinions) on your apparent concern. Fornication is morally wrong, sex before marriage is against Gods word, the concept of marriage (biblical) is what we generally call consummation. These are my views, they are about morality so they are deemed unacceptable for use in this country. That is wrong, morality is universal, it is not religious rhetoric. Our mindset is twisted in this country. I am not sure how prevalent it is today, but it used to be a double standard, let the boys have as many females sexually as they can but dont let the girls participate. What is wrong for girls is wrong for boys, this is called equality.

            If you want to shock some old school men, try this. If he says it is okay for your son to have sex with his girlfriend tell him, “Okay, dear, but every time our son has sex, our daughter gets to have sex with her boyfriend.” Neither is right, but maybe this will make him think harder about his acceptance of his sons behavior.

          • Samdromeda

            You have done justice to parsing my post. Your views are not far from m y own. There have emerged a host of match making sites for those who wish to have an affair. The match makers claim to set up a safe and confidential venue. This is what I meant when I said that Adultery has become big business.

          • Frank Kahn

            Okay, I understand now. I have received disturbing emails, that now go to my spam folder, that are titled “Married but Horny”, this is obviously an adultery mission. Never investigated to find out the cost.

  • bonniewheeler

    Larry, I have not a clue about what Limbaugh says, however, I do know that if Sandra Fluke is all that America has to offer as candidate we have come a long way down since the establishment of America – If you can think of anything she did to deserve honor just tell me what it was. She advocated free birth control for the immoral. That is getting too involved into our personal lives.
    I really need to know the lies that you say were told by Limbaugh so that I can decide for myself if he’s wrong.

  • james street

    If this is the nation we have become then we are a nation in decline

  • http://yahoo.com Joann Flanagan

    True Patriots often rebuke
    A modern day Messalina named Sandra Fluke,
    For starting a religious persecution,
    By laying christiandom and Jewry under contribution
    To finiance her unnatural orgies-call her a kook!
    Joann Flanagan
    Well look at this way-Times made Hitler Man Of The Year during the Last Century.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Larry.Henry.Carter.Center Larry Carter Center

    women re-elected Obusha and Sandra Fluke is representative enough of that fact while the Rush Limboss liars represent the shrill shrieking scum incapable of telling the truth for greed and pornography their fascism represents

    • http://midcontent brand inspector

      These Obama voting organisms, are just life support systems for their female parts, they prove how all these mental morons, will vote for the maddrass educated, marxist loving, congenital lying socialist back into the WH.. They can not think for themselves, or do a damn thing for themselves. It keeps growing more every day, is that a book trained idoit can not be educated to have commons sense. Dems keep proving they embrace ideas that government should have total control over everything and everyone, down to what you think and eat.

      • Samdromeda

        Under the administration of the patriarch Joseph, who administered Pharaoh’s government, Pharaoh wound up owning everything.and the people wound up selling themselves to the government in order to survive. Multinationals are selling off our fresh water and are outsourcing our jobs. the elderly are forced out of the labor pools. People are marginalized in the prison industrial complex and the Health Care System refuses to let anyone heal you.. Treatment is the code word for making you comfortable in your illness. The drug companies have a vested interest in you staying sick.. Remember Norman on Star Trek…”You will be controlled because we will care for you.” We now have a government. that will be forced by the people to wet nurse them. This comfort comes at a great price because there is never enough to go around in the land of good and plenty. Everyone is protecting their own sand pile and looking with greed on the sand piles of others. Life has become cheap in America. There is no honor in desperation. But ,necessity is still the mother of invention . Hopefully we will have enough national character left to enjoy the innovation. Whatever you find to do, do it with your might, because there is no employment or investment in the grave.

  • 45caliber

    I haven’t Times in years and this is typical of the reason why. I was given a 3 year subscription to it once and immediately told them to cancel it. (They even paid me to cancel the subscription and they were the ones to give it to me.)

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