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Safe At The Gun Show

April 2, 2013 by  

Safe At The Gun Show
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One of the larger of the touring gun shows came through town recently; and being the sort of fellow I am, I gladly paid the entry fee and spent a few hours browsing the wares. I’ve written about my affinity for gun shows before, and I’m often asked by my non-“gun guy” friends to explain my regular attendance. I find my “it’s a traveling carnival of awesome” description elicits more confusion than understanding. The best way I can explain it would be through the magic of simile.

Ben is to gun show as:

  • Gearhead is to auto show.
  • Woman is to one of those gigantic shoe stores in the outlet mall.
  • Union member is to ugly mob.

But those of you who find firearms and firearm ownership either uninteresting or appalling would be both mortified and surprised by the goings-on at a gun show. The rows upon rows of firearms and firearm-related accoutrement would mortify you, while the complete lack of hatred and shouted invective would surprise you. After all, the image that the liberals and their corporate media flacks have conjured suggests a deafening collection of goose-stepping whackjobs, backwoods hillbillies and lunatic doomsday prophets. Of course, like every caricature created by the Democrats in their endless war on the Bill of Rights, the aforementioned stereotypes are no more valid than the liberal assumption that black people are incapable of fending for themselves without government assistance.

To be sure, there are some oddities floating through the gun show atmosphere. There’s the guy wearing army-issue body armor that doesn’t even come close to covering his non-army-issue beer gut. There’s the dude hawking EOTech™ clones that are only slightly more believable than Attorney General Eric Holder’s Congressional testimony on Operation Fast and Furious. And more often than not there’s a guy selling fake World War II memorabilia who hopes you won’t notice the “made in China” sticker until after you get home.

But there isn’t a lot of yelling. There isn’t a great deal of voiced outrage. There are no mobs of indignant women’s studies majors waving placards and marching about in no particular direction. In an atmosphere in which the headlines are dominated by ludicrous attempts by liberals to demonize firearms as possessing an innately sinister nature unto themselves, no one was so much as mildly surprised by a gun. With everything from those trendy pink-handled .22s to a fully functional, semi-automatic replica of a Goryunov machine gun, the gun show represents a chamber of horrors to those shrieking Brady Campaigners; yet shoppers and vendors alike were as comfortable as Michael Moore at all-you-can-eat night at the local Krispy Kreme.

There were no shouts of blind hatred for those who don’t share the assemblage’s political ideologies, no demands for free stuff at the expense of someone else’s hard work, no cheers for the misfortune of others, no screams for the maiming, murdering or general demise of anyone. There were no beatings, no stabbings and — contrary to deliberate misconception — no shooting rampages.

There are thousands of firearms and tens of thousands of rounds of ammunition in room filled to the rafters with firearm enthusiasts. If the gun grabbers’ slander is to be believed, such a tableau should have naturally progressed to a rolling horde of wild-eyed barbarians and the kind of body count usually reserved for a Third World civil war. Yet even Piers Morgan would have been safer than the crown jewels. At least until he got a load of that Goryunov; that would have sent him running for the nearest “gun-free zone.”

–Ben Crystal

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • CZ52

    “Yet even Piers Morgan would have been safer than the crown jewels. At least until he got a load of that Goryunov; that would have sent him running for the nearest “gun-free zone.”

    All the while leaving a stinky brown trail behind him as he runs away.

    • Rodney

      that would b him melting lol.

  • Bob666

    Ben,
    you writing style is brief.

    • STEVE E.

      Just read it again. Maybe you will understand it the second time.

  • Russ

    Very nice article. In this current environment of constant fearmongering & the ensuing (& necessary) corresponding prepper counterculture, it’s nice to read an article with all the whimsical pleasantries of a springtime Saturday afternoon softball game, particularly regarding gunshows. I do believe I’ll be attending the one in Pasadena this weekend. :D

  • Right Brain Thinker

    We can be sure that there is at least one minor “whack job” at any gun show Ben attends. That whack job arrives the second that Ben walks through the door. Perhaps I shouldn’t be so unkind, but Ben has gone over the top with creating a whole army of straw men (and women) here and beating them into tiny pieces for no better reason than he can. Ben will be Ben, I guess, and it IS fun to watch his “act” when it’s as generally harmless as this one is.

    He’s right that gun shows ARE awesome and the crowds are pretty well behaved. Here in the DC area, the policemen I have talked to say they have more “trouble” at computer shows than they do at gun shows, and gun shows are only slightly more of a problem than train shows or antique shows. The crowds here are heavily white, although people of all races are present and there are a surprising number of women in attendance (and they tend to be good-looking and “hot”).

    By the way, Ben, if you want a daily “awesome fix” when you can’t get to a show, check out “I Like Guns—Steve Lee—Youtube” for some good video and music and “The Biggest Machine Gun Shoot in the World—Youtube”. The second one is truly awesome—I can’t imagine what it costs to fire a whole belt through a Ma Deuce but it sure looks like fun.

  • Dave

    A gun show is like a car show… only the specific design for a gun show is for the items to kill. Which is fine. If only the attendees would be for universal background checks for ALL gun purchases and stiff penalties for Staw purchases… oh wait… the majority are… Only the extremist NRA opposes such common sense.

    • Average Joe

      Dave,

      I have yet to attend a gun show where I did not have to be subjected to a background check to purchase any firearm, nor do I know of anyone who has. Contrary to deliberate misconception, there really are computers in the hands of firearm dealers (oh the horror) and those firearms dealers actually use those computers to follow the letter of the law Why? Because the value having their FFL and wouldn’t risk the large fines or loss of the FFL or their livelihood in order to “help out” someone that they just met at a gun show….to believe otherwise would indicate that one has been dropped on their head one too many times as a child. Yes we support background checks. What we don’t approve of is “Gun Registries”. IN every instance in the past where gun registration has occurred, gun confiscation has followed…with genocide not far behind. Take a lesson from history before it is too late.

      A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

      In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
      ——————————

      In 1911,

      Turkey established gun control. >From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
      ——————————

      Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
      ——————————

      China established gun control in 1935. >From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
      ——————————

      Guatemala established gun control in 1964. >From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
      —- ————- ————-

      Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
      ——————————

      Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
      —————————–

      Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

      ——————————

      You won’t see this data on the

      US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

      Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

      Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late!

      The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

      With guns, we are ‘citizens’. Without them, we are ‘subjects’.

      During WW II the Japanese decided not to invade

      America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

      If you value your freedom, please spread this anti gun-control message to all of your friends.

      The purpose of fighting is to win.
      There is no possible victory in defense.
      The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either.
      The final weapon is the brain.
      All else is supplemental.

      As passed by the Congress:

      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      AJ

      • Dave

        Let us all bow our heads for all the victims of universal background checks…

        The 2nd Amendment has limits and then there is the whole “well regulated” part that the gun advocates conveniently ignore.

        Did I say anywhere in my post about taking guns away? No… that is you, Citori and Phillip reading into what I say.

        I have no issue with people owning guns as long as EVERYONE who buys a gun from ANY source goes through background checks and training of the proper use and storage of weapons. People do not need assault weapons and large capacity magazines. I agree with law enforcement that those items should be off the streets. You still have rifles, shotguns and handguns to protect your family, show off, hunt with…

        Phillip,

        The NRA has been the advocate of the gun manufacturers… the have consistantly pushed their bought and sold lawmakers to weaken existing gun laws, losened regulations of the kinds of guns, ammo allowed on the streets and have opposed ANY common sense measures to curtail gun violence in this country. they are mere fear peddlers…

        Let me ask you boys a question, what is more likely… 1)You using your gun in self-defense or 2) someone getting ahold of your gun and killing you or a member of your family or someone you meet in a fit of rage?

        the answer is #2. The NRA do not care. Wayne LaPierre only cares about money and keeping his lavish lifestyle while people die because of the fear they help sell. NRA members are some of the most frieghtend people in this country which is a testiment to the marketing campaign put forth by the NRA.

        You mention Fast and Furious… Do you even know how it came about? The Bush administration was working with the Mexican gov on stopping guns and drugs from coming and going between Mexico and the United States. I know you won’t believe this but when the United States and the Mexican police were ready for a raid… they go in and… nothing is there…Someone in the Mexican Gov tipped the cartels off… shocking right? Obama went around the mexican gov and got better results…shocking again. I know F&F is a wonderful talking point for the right, just like the deficit, teleprompters, the amount of vacation Obama has taken, Kenyan born… so on and so on… but its all nonsense.

        You boys need to open your eyes once in a while and use that superior conservative brain for something more than a hat rack.

      • Average Joe

        Dave,

        Is English your second language? Or, were you just not paying attention in class?

        As passed by the Congress:

        A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

        The statement: “A well-regulated militia, being necessary for the security of a free state,”
        is often misunderstood to mean that you need to be in a militia in order to own firearms. Well, point in-fact, every male of draft age who is of sound body and mind is considered a member of the “unorganized militia” according to the law, but that’s irrelevant, because the second statement:
        “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
        is the important part. This statement is the crux of the amendment and ensures that the individual right to bear arms is not infringed upon. Now, the way this sentence is constructed (in total), the right of the people allows for the well-regulated militia. The militia is a byproduct of the right to bear arms, not a prerequisite. Here is the grammatical break down from the prof:
        [ Copperud:] The words “A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,” contrary to the interpretation cited in your letter of July 26, 1991, constitute a present participle, rather than a clause. It is used as an adjective, modifying ” militia,” which is followed by the main clause of the sentence (subject “the right,” verb “shall”). The right to keep and bear arms is asserted as essential for maintaining a militia.
        In reply to your numbered questions:
        [Schulman: (1) Can the sentence be interpreted to grant the right to keep and bear arms solely to "a well-regulated militia"?;]
        [ Copperud:] (1) The sentence does not restrict the right to keep and bear arms, nor does it state or imply possession of the right elsewhere or by others than the people; it simply makes a positive statement with respect to a right of the people.
        [Schulman: (2) Is "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" granted by the words of the Second Amendment, or does the Second Amendment assume a preexisting right of the people to keep and bear arms, and merely state that such right "shall not be infringed"?;]
        [ Copperud:] (2) The right is not granted by the amendment; its existence is assumed. The thrust of the sentence is that the right shall be preserved inviolate for the sake of ensuring a militia.
        [Schulman: (3) Is the right of the people to keep and bear arms conditioned upon whether or not a well-regulated militia is, in fact, necessary to the security of a free State, and if that condition is not existing, is the statement "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" null and void?;]
        [ Copperud:] (3) No such condition is expressed or implied. The right to keep and bear arms is not said by the amendment to depend on the existence of a militia. No condition is stated or implied as to the relation of the right to keep and bear arms and to the necessity of a well-regulated militia as requisite to the security of a free state. The right to keep and bear arms is deemed unconditional by the entire sentence.
        [Schulman: (4) Does the clause "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State," grant a right to the government to place conditions on the "right of the people to keep and bear arms," or is such right deemed unconditional by the meaning of the entire sentence?;]
        [ Copperud:] (4) The right is assumed to exist and to be unconditional, as previously stated. It is invoked here specifically for the sake of the militia.
        [Schulman: (5) Which of the following does the phrase " well-regulated militia" mean: "well-equipped," "well-organized," "well-drilled," "well-educated," or "subject to regulations of a superior authority"?]
        [ Copperud:] (5) The phrase means “subject to regulations of a superior authority”; this accords with the desire of the writers for civilian control over the military.
        [Schulman: If at all possible, I would ask you to take into account the changed meanings of words, or usage, since that sentence was written two-hundred years ago, but not to take into account historical interpretations of the intents of the authors, unless those issues can be clearly separated.]
        [ Copperud:] To the best of my knowledge, there has been no change in the meaning of words or in usage that would affect the meaning of the amendment. If it were written today, it might be put: “Since a well-regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged.”
        [Schulman:] As a “scientific control” on this analysis, I would also appreciate it if you could compare your analysis of the text of the Second Amendment to the following sentence,
        “A well-schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and read Books, shall not be infringed.”
        My questions for the usage analysis of this sentence would be,
        (1) Is the grammatical structure and usage of this sentence, and the way the words modify each other, identical to the Second Amendment’s sentence?; and
        (2) Could this sentence be interpreted to restrict “the right of the people to keep and read Books” only to “a well-educated electorate” – for example, registered voters with a high-school diploma?]
        [ Copperud:] (1) Your “scientific control” sentence precisely parallels the amendment in grammatical structure.
        (2) There is nothing in your sentence that either indicates or implies the possibility of a restricted interpretation.
        Got it? Good.

        Roy Herman Copperud, a professor of journalism and an authority on the use of the English language.

        Now, I understand that you liberal types think you know everything about everything…the reality is…you don’t. Learn this basic fact and move along. Allow those of us who do…to teach you the errors of your thought processes.
        Do not compound your ignorance by responding further. Parting gifts are available on your way out.

        AJ

      • Average Joe

        “Let me ask you boys a question, ”

        followed by:

        “the answer is #2. The NRA do not care. ”

        So, you make up the question and the answers?…lmao
        OK…Prove it…your opinion means nothing…hard ,verifiable facts…got any?
        Answer: Nope, not one(see, we can make up the question and answer too)

        “NRA members are some of the most frieghtend (sic) people in this country which is a testament (sic) to the marketing campaign put forth by the NRA.”

        Nonsense…. we have guns…what do we have to be frightened of? Certainly not by frightened folks like you. Seems to me that you liberal hoplaphobes are the ones that are frightened. Just the mention of firearms and you break out in a sweat, pee your pants or run out of the room screaming like a banshee. And you say wee are frightened? …lmao, again.

        “People do not need assault weapons and large capacity magazines. I agree with law enforcement that those items should be off the streets. You still have rifles, shotguns and handguns to protect your family, show off, hunt with…”

        That’s (once again) your opinion…I don’t happen to agree.
        My weapons have never assaulted anyone (yet), so I guess I don’t have any of those “assault weapons”. I do however own an Ak-47 variant and several 30 round magazines (according to Homeland Security: a defensive weapon). You are free to agree or disagree with anyone you choose….it still doesn’t make it right, nor Constitutional. it makes it your opinion, nothing more, nothing less (and we all know about those, right?). BTW, My AK variant….IS a rifle ( a semi-auto carbine to be exact)….and yes, I hunt with it, as well as take it to the range at least once a month…if that’s a problem for you…too bad, so sad….get over it.
        Your opinion and $5 will get you a cup of coffee in some places…this isn’t one of those places. Facts matter…your opinion…doesn’t.

        AJ

      • 45caliber

        Dave:

        The gun checks aren’t the problem; the registration of those who are buying one is the problem. You sort of missed what Average was trying to tell you. Every time the guns were registered by the government (to insure the criminals didn’t get one) the government then uses the registration list to seize the guns of the common law-abiding citizens to disarm and then kill them. So … who it is that you want to kill?

      • alpha-lemming

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      • Don 2

        Dave,

        News flash: “Well Regulated” at that time actually meant “well equipped, ready to go!” and “Militia” meant “all the people.”

      • Dave

        AJ, 45Cal et all….

        http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/10/929.full

        http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199310073291506

        Pick one… you are more at risk of dying at the hands of your own gun that protecting your family.

        Now fear… The fear causes the run on gun purchases that the NRA have been fanning since Obama took office. We have a whole country of fraidy-cats and feel the need to walk around armed.

        How many of these “armed patriots” are properly trained in the weapons they do have and in dealing with being confronted with someone or people looking to do them bodily harm?

        Not many, so many people freeze when confronted with the shock of being in that situation to matter how rare the occurence might be. I have no problem with guns, just idiots with guns. If the NRA was a mainstream organization, they would be working with law enforcement to come up with training and prevention of gun violence. They are extremely weak in both areas and since I grew up right next to the NRA HQ and have seen what they have done and have not done, I can comment with some authority.

        Gun shows are like any other show. I enjoy car shows and I don’t go there to try and convince my fellow car owners to get rid of red lights, yield signs or other traffic control measures, nor do I try and get people all hot and bothered because the Gov has my VIN number on a database.

        Since the gun advocate side has given so many solutions to the problem of gun violence in this country… oh wait… they haven’t… thats right. It is up to the sane people to put forth common sense measures to try and curb the problem.

        But you “gun patriots” believe its one extreme of the other. Because I call for universal background checks for ALL gun sales not matter where they are sold and a national database to better track guns used in crimes and stiffer penalties for straw purchases… That makes me naturally wanting to get rid of all guns. Are you programmed just to assume these things?

        I shoot guns, I enjoy going to WW2 shows but I also possess something I like to call common sense.

      • JeffH

        Dave says “Because I call for universal background checks for ALL gun sales not matter where they are sold and a national database to better track guns used in crimes and stiffer penalties for straw purchases… That makes me naturally wanting to get rid of all guns. Are you programmed just to assume these things?”

        Dave, you are assuming that “universal background checks” for all gun sales will somehow help to cure the problem of illegal gun sales and illegal aquisition.

        That just ain’t so and if you rationalize it, you’ll understand why. Criminals don’t do “background checks” beause they don’t buy guns from FFL dealers…when they buy illegal guns, they buy stolen and black market guns.

        Universal is not universal when law abiding citizens are the being “punished” because of the actions of the few – the criminals…and make no mistake, that is the result.

        As for straw purchasers…punish them…don’t allow them to skate like the DOJ and BATFE did with Operation Fast & Furious.

        FYI…Operation Fast and Furious was Obama’s game and had no ties with with the Bush Admin. DOJ/BATFE program Operation Wide Reciever wich was run between 2006-2007 and was ultimately shut down because they were ineffective and poorly run programs.

        Every gun dealer at every gun show in America must, by law, run a background check on every buyer and if there is a waiting period required by the state then the buyer may not pick up his/her gun until he/she passes the background check and the waiting period is over. That’s the law!

        Another fact…it is a well known fact that the BATFE will have several plain clothed undercover agents at various gun shows observing participatng FFL dealer transactions.

        ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

        ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

        Join us along with the NRA, GOA, SAF and the NACGR in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

        STOP IT

        STOP IT NOW

    • Citori Owner

      Dude what is your major malfuction? I didn’t realize how pronounced the stupid symptom of Liberal Brain disease was.

      #1 The Intention of a Firearm is not soley for killing people. I own 12+ and have never killed anyone. Target shooting has been an Olympic Sport since 1896. The NRA has sponsered civilian marksmanship programs to train for sporting events since before you were born. Gun Safety has been a cornerstone of the NRA since it’s inception in 1871. The NRA has only really had to be promoter of gun rights since the inception of liberal brain disease circa post FDR, it has become more pronounced in the last 25 years because your generation of freedom hating sheeple.

      BTW read the actual bill text for S.374 and you will see there is no such universal background check order. It blatently outlaws private transfer of firearms, which it is specified in the constitution to be none of the federal governments d@mn business. The constitution only grants congress the right to regulate interstate commerce. To regulate my transfer to another party of my same state is unconstitutional. Amendment 10 would reserve that right for the state, or the people.

    • Phillip_In_Texas

      Oh, like the “straw purchasers” that were used by Eric Holder and the Injustice Department for the “Fast & Furious” gunning running operation to Mexico. You know, the guns that are killing both Mexicans & Americans.

      • john811c

        Yes But that makes it right because the Attorney general authorized the illegal starw purchases and now is going after the same dealers who sold them as part of the governments plan. Why would you give arms to Mexican drug cartels is beyond my comprehension and without any means to track them, then prosecute the ones who helped you as if they were the criminals when the real criminal sits in Washington DC in the DOJ

    • chocopot

      “Only the extremist NRA opposes such common sense.”

      Yes, I know liberals label anyone an “extremist” who doesn’t agree with them. What the NRA and its members believe, which liberals simply don’t like, is that the Constitution means what it says, and that our rights granted by or guaranteed by the Constitution are not open to negotiation or to being watered down by liberals. I know you can’t seem to understand that, but guess what – too bad. I will not give up my rights because liberals disagree with them. By the way, the Second Amendment, which essentially gurantees the other nine within the Bill of Rights, makes no provision for any restrictions or limitations. What that means, essentially, is that every gun control law is unconstitutional. Think about that for a while.

      • Don 2

        The 2nd. Amendment: Washington didn’t use his right to free speech to defeat the British, he shot them.

    • john811c

      Every Gun show I have been to if you want to purchase a weapon you must fill out the federal purchase form Just as Mark Kelly did and don’t you know they denied him the purchase because he stated later that he was going to give it to the police(so he said) in other words he LIED on his purchase form and would have made him a ‘Straw Buyer” had the dealer completed the sale, The dealer cancelled his purchase thus preserving their license to sell and preventing Mark Kelly from becoming a criminal and subject to prosecution. Now when you fill out the form you do not get immediate delivery of your weapons you must wait while the conduct a check. So what you are representing here is a complete falsehood. But how would you know I bet you have never been to a gun show or even have purchased a weapon, it just suits your posting agenda to present something that is not true. The only problems I have ever encountered at gun shows is the traffic, and finding a place to park.

    • Tommy cunningham

      Dave, do u think we live in a democracy in which we do things the majority wants? Well my friend if you do then u are sadly uneducated, we live in a constitutionally limited republic in which the goverment is limited in what it can do for or to the people, for example we have that pesky thing called the bill of rights, and in the bill of rights is the 2nd amendment, which protects my natural tight to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed upon means that if the majority wants background checks on private guns sells, we’ll to bad, as that is infringing upon my natural right I was born with that is protected by 2nd amendment! Now u but jobs can try and take it, but us “Real” Americans are going say no and if need be utilize the 2nd admendment as was intended for to defend our Life, LIBERTY, and property against whomever decides to violate those rights, including a oppressive goverment !

    • JamesonTE

      What you must understand is “well regulated” in the text does not mean “governed by laws” but intended to read as ” well trained and equipped”. It’s amazing how words can mean different things.

      • chocopot

        That is correct. At the time the Constitution was written, “well regulated” meant “well trained.”

      • Don 2

        A well regulated Militia, composed of gentlemen freeholders, and other freemen, is the natural strength and only stable security of a free Government. – George Mason

    • 45caliber

      Dave:

      First, the dealers at gun shows do gun checks. Second, you know nothing about the NRA. Third, this article is about people who never bother to check out a gun show but spout nonsence about it based on what they believe happens there. You certainly are an excellent example of that type of person.

    • JeffH

      Yawn!

      POLLY WANT A CRACKER? baaarrraaaccckkkkkk!

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Jeffy, your comments are begonning to be about as relevant as omanuel’s are now or DaveH’s were back ion the day. Why don’t you do as DaveH did and disappear? (As I’m hoping omanuel will also).

        (or is the reason you are sounding like DaveH is that you ARE DAveH? Lord love a duck!)

      • JeffH

        Half Wit, POLLY WANT A CRACKR too?

        Half Wit Thinker makes himself heard with yet another meaningless comment. If he couldn’t say something stupid he’d havenothing to say at all.

        Troll on Half Wit, troll on.

        ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

        ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

        Join us along with the NRA, GOA, SAF and the NACGR in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

        STOP IT

        STOP IT NOW

      • Dave

        Yawn is right JeffH. Same bumpersticker politics and no solutions… That is your MO.

  • ToughGuy1

    I’ve always felt safe at a gun show!

    • 45caliber

      TG:

      A friend recently drove to CA and back. He stopped in a truck stop to get food in AZ and was telling me about it. When he went in, he realized he was the only one who didn’t wear a gun. He said for a moment he was nervous – and then he realized that only a d@mn fool would draw a gun in that place. He said it reminded him of a busy police station. He felt totally safe.

  • George Chatraw

    No surprise here, 99.99% of gun owners are acutely aware of the responsibilities of ownership and act accordingly. And because of this awareness, if some fool did try something crazy he would be taken down immediately and everyone knows it. Besides that, these gun owners are not violent people and have no desire to do harm to anyone. Ignorance is the ruling factor with the anti-gun nuts and their agenda is based on incorrect and falsified “facts and figures”. Let’s compare the history of gun show violence to the violence perpetrated at a Hip Hop show and see which is more dangerous.

    • 45caliber

      George:

      One of the biggest failures of Americans is that they try to determine what others would do in some situation based on how they would act themselves. Take famines, for instance. Who would you feed first if food was scarce? The kids next door or yourself?

      The libs expect all those things at gun shows because they know how they would react in that situation.

    • James

      George – good contrast. I never feel threatened at a gun show or on the shooting range… I sometimes have to work at a hip hop concert or rap festival – scary. I felt less threatened in combat in Southeast Asia when people were actually shooting at us.

      BTW – I consider that music requires rhythm AND a melody. The angry chants in monotone hardly qualifies.

      • 45caliber

        I agree with you about the “modern” music.

        Several years ago when my daughter was in high school, I was trying to find some of my old tapes to use in the car on a long vacation drive .. and I could find only three. The moment I popped one in the player, my daughter started to sing along with the music. When we got home, I checked her room. Almost every tape I had was there. It turned out that the choir in high school used those songs to learn to sing since the modern music couldn’t be sung.

  • Michael J.

    Yes Ben, I do feel safe at a gun show. A gathering of like minded individuals. Made self evident first of all by there mere presence, and then fortified by their slogan enhanced t-shirts. A place where conservative talking points may be discussed without fear of eavesdropping, limp wristed snitches. As soon as you enter the parking lot, the first thing noticeable is that their isn’t a Toyota Prius in sight, which is just as well because they have been known to melt into a pile of molten rice simply by parking next to my Dodge Powerwagon, as has happened on occasion when I periodically stop at Star Bucks for a cup-a-joe. The scene inside these commie resting spots is no less spectacular. As when I enter, all [comment has been edited] activities cease as they are unacustomed to the sudden dose of masculinity thrust upon them. Not that I am all that, but their ambiguos sexuality,and pasty complexions has left them in awe of normalcy.

    Enuff for now, off to work and pay taxes, millions of entitlement sponges are counting on me!

    • Mike in MI

      Ah-h-h yes-s, Michael J –
      And doesn’t it tell you something about the madness rampant in a world where someone self-content, assured and capable as yourself enters an animal cage like you describe and all eyes of the inmates are fixed in uneasiness upon normalcy as though it were a threat. Like a bunch of hamsters in a pen at the pet store when their keeper arrives to feed, water and care for them. They rise up in unison on their haunches, raise their front paws and begin to squall as in mortal fear. Surely, they would require any and all such intrusions to be vetted, back-ground checked and licensed for their protection.
      Yet, they feel nothing amiss under a Kim Jong Un and Barry Soetoro, inexperienced narcissistic megalomaniacs, whom the inmates put in charge of the world’s nuclear well-being.

      And people refuse to consider the possibility there might be a Devil?

    • 45caliber

      Michael: I may be wrong but I suspect that all activity and talk that stops in Starbucks when you enter is the sheer shock of someone ordering a cup of coffee instead of one of their fancy pc drinks.

      • Carol J

        That reminds me of my brother and sister-in-law ordering plain coffee at a Starbucks in Honolulu. The girl didn’t know how to pour them a regular cup of coffee.

    • Stanley

      Be nice to Prius drivers some are driving them for other reasons than saving the environment. I have purchased 2 in the last 6 years. My Prius allows me to poke a finger in the eye of anti American oil sellers like OPEC.
      On the other hand gun shows are like candy stores for my family. My son and I often have a table of our own and sell what ever firearms we think we can live with out.

      • STEVE E.

        I have a little Toyoto Tercel, but it packs a .357 magnum revolver in the glove box and has anti Obama stickers on the bumper so no one thinks I’m an idiot.

  • FreedomFighter

    Subject: Guns and spoons

    Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my rifle right in the doorway. I gave it 5 shells to go in the clip, and noticing that it had no legs, even placed it in a wheelchair to help it get around. I then left it alone and went about my business.

    While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street shoveled the snow, a girl walked her dog down the street, trash man picked up the trash, and quite a few cars went by.

    After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there in the wheelchair, right where I had left it. It hadn’t rolled itself outside. It certainly hadn’t killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had been presented to do so. In fact, it hadn’t even loaded itself.

    Well, you can imagine my surprise, with all the media hype about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong, and it’s the misuse of guns by PEOPLE that kills people, or I’m in possession of the laziest gun in the world. Alright, well I’m off to check on my spoons. I hear they’re making people fat.
    (from an email)

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

    • 45caliber

      FF:

      According to everything I hear from the libs/progressives, you MUST have the laziest gun in the world! I’m afraid to leave mine out like that – I’m certain that they would at least grow legs and walk off. And wait until some dark night when those spoons gang up on you. You’ll be sound asleep one minute and held down and force fed the highest calory food in the house the next! So be sure to sleep with one eye open so you’ll have a chance to run!!

  • ibcamn

    Hey all,safe at gun shows?.yes,how can you not be.gun shows are great fun and i took all my kids to them when they popped up or ran across them in our travels.two of my sons did the NRA gun saftey courses and the others did deer hunting saftey courses sponsered by the local hunting assotiation,and now my daughter is being taught gun saftey by myself till she is old enough to attend classes.it is a family event in my family and has and always will be!guns are a part of American culture,just like cars and trucks(and so many other things)and like my trucks and motorcycles,i want to leave them to my children!but the way the gov’t is going,i wont be able too!i would think that in itself is a infringement on my rights,even if i’m dead!in my will i can leave these items to my children,so what right does the gov’t have to tell me i can’t leave them to who i want?

    The people telling us they know best are moving to,and living in the DC area with all their lobbyist friends!they don’t live in the real world at all!they think they know what is good for us but they don’t know sheet!!look at what they did allowing prisoners outr early!people died from that decision!!and it’s not the first time that has happened,but yet the lawmakers keep doing it!!I could go on for ever with this but you all know or will know this.and from that,what makes them able to tell us what guns we can and can’t buy and own or buy for our children(s) and friends or other family members!!gun shows are a great way to make new friends and connect with like minded people and just have a fun day with your kids or your favorite gal,.lol..ive found more of what i was looking for this way then traveling state to state looking for a certain weapon or ammo.the internet is a way but you can’t always trust a seller this way!

    Tell the gov’t to take a hike on the gun shows,we all know they do background checks(ive only seen one seller that didn’t do this)and no one goes postal at these events!!your more likely to get killed at a McDonalds!..:speaking of gov’t infringement on peoples rights!ive been gone due to the fact that almost no Wis state LEO know we can open carry in this state without being a cop or fed and yet they still didn’t understand that even when the law was placed before them or they themselves did the background check(over a dozen times!)and saw it is legal and i myself am legal and have the legal right to open carry!and using the excuse its a holiday and people are out or computers are down…BS!they made a mistake and won’t admit it!i could go on about the false warrent and all the crap and problems they themselves created and made worse,…but that is another subject we know well!..Liberals at their best,wasting taxpayer money trying to correct their ongoing mistakes!…THEY NEED TO LIVE OUTSIDE OF DC AND GET AWAY FROM UNIONS!!

  • carolinerh

    Attended my first gun show and was amazed at the layout, the friendliness, the helpfulness, and the feeling of calm and reason and look forward to attending another. I learned a great deal and know that as a small business woman, I need to have a gun and ammo to protect me against all types of predators in this atmosphere sponsored by and fostered by the current prez and his admin. Gun(g) ho! Also, no pushing, shoving, or invectives were to be seen or heard.

    • Don 2

      GUN CONTROL: The theory that a woman found dead in an ally, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.

  • red neck

    A little off topic….. Liability insurance for ALL gun owners…

    Just to give all of you a heads up the Democratic party is working on a bill that will require ALL gun owners to have liability insurance ( except for government / law enforcement etc )…. And of course if you do not have insurance you will be struck with a $10,000 fine…. On the other hand we are smart enough to figure out that “liability insurance” will be at a cost that 99% of the population can not afford.

    • Daver

      Such “liability insurance” could be another route to gun owner identification and gun-by-gun registration, e.g. the insurance policies could be constructed to cover only specifically listed items and the cost of the policies tied to the quantities and types of items that are listed. Variations of such approaches already exist in riders available to homeowner’s insurance.

  • richard brooks

    it is amusing to read the comments of those who claim to support the constitution and the 2nd amendment.
    those commentators support the current restrictions (circumventions) to the 2nd amendment.
    how can any of you be surprised when new restrictions may/will include you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/johnny.obrien.378 Johnny O’Brien

    I don’t think we have to much to worry about insurance, from what I’ve seen in the news congress can pass the bill if they want but NO insurance company will work with them as they all say it would be impossible to work up that kind of coverage, way to complicated.

    • 45caliber

      Johnny:

      No insurance available would be perfectly fine for the politicians in Washington. After all, if you can’t get it, then they have a good excuse to confiscate the weapons. You shouldn’t have them anyway and if no company can work up the policy that means that you shouldn’t have one, right?

  • Jeremy Leochner

    I think it would be fun to visit a gun show. I have a passion for history and would love to look at the antique weapons. And I would not mind looking at a few modern guns too.

    • 45caliber

      You like old things? The last gun show I went to (about three weeks ago) had two vendors who dealt only in old things – WWI or before – and that included a lot more than just guns. Plus someone had a 1/6th working model of a Gatlin gun there, chambered for .22. It was very interesting to look over.

  • Jeremy Leochner

    Not so much fear of guns as fear of crazy people with guns. Or criminals with guns. Or incompetent people with guns.

    • KG

      If you really want to see the true “wing-nuts”, then go to a gun show. I just love all of the so-called “non-racists” with their Nazi flags and caricatures of our President in all sorts of outlandish expressions. Usually, the only thing missing is the White hoods.

      • Don 2

        Stop talking out of your azz Clueless.

      • KG

        Am I really? Or did I hit too close to home?

      • 45caliber

        KG:

        It is obvious that you are one of those who “believe” all this about gun shows without ever going to one. Show up at a gun show with a new Nazi flag, etc. and you will be lucky to walk away in one piece. Too many of those who attend are either vets or related to one and they don’t like such things. So I seriously doubt if you have ever attended one. You are simply repeating what you see on lib columns hoping to upset someone.

      • KG

        I live in Texas – every major city has a monthly gun show. And every one I have ever been to has some Idiot selling Nazi memorabilia. And they always have the idiots who sell the “NOBAMA” bumperstickers – usually next to the table with the NRA registration. So don’t tell me whats going on – I have eyes too.

      • Don 2

        KG,

        Your statement, “Usually, the only thing that is missing is the White hoods” disqualifies you from any credibility.

        Exactly how many gun shows have you attended where people were wearing White hoods during the gun show? Crawl back under your rock.

      • JeffH

        KG(B?), you’re as transparent as a double pained window.
        Your spiel is old, worn out and easy to see through…another overused progressive(Alinsky)tactic used by trolls like yourself to incite the other posters. You’re so full of it your eyes are brown.

        Now for some reality…POLLY WANT A CRACKER? baaarrraaaccckkkk!

      • KG

        You guys are so funny! So, I guess Saul Alinsky WAS a brilliant mental propagandist. It seems to work among the Neanderthals that populate these boards. When did Rush give his lecture on Alinsky? I would have loved to hear it.

        So, if the Powers that be really want to confiscate our guns, are we to open fire on any uniformed Police officer or military member?

        Do you really think a bunch of fat old white guys could defeat a platoon of Marines? Or even a platoon of Coast Guard reservists? Or national forest rangers?

        Stop dreaming and start to do something to actually HELP America.

        You can start by paying your taxes.

      • Don 2

        KG,

        You’re a typical liberal. When your nonsense is questioned…..quick, change the subject.

      • KG

        “I want THE TRUTH!”
        “You want the TRUTH? YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!”

      • http://gravatar.com/dalene44 dalene44

        KG: you betray your bigotry. By the way, the NAZI’s were big government like your idol and the KKK was founded by the Democrat party,.

      • Don 2

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      • Dave

        Today Darlene, The KKK support the GOP overwhelmingly. Try not to use the Dem party of the 1950′s and prior, today. The dems were the conservatives of the 1950′s and prior… After the 1970′s, those Dems left and they became the GOP we know and loathe today.

      • KG

        dalene44 says:
        KG: you betray your bigotry. By the way, the NAZI’s were big government like your idol and the KKK was founded by the Democrat party,.

        So, Republicans are NOT for big government? (think military – industrial complex)
        And, how many “liberals” are there in the KKK?

      • speedle

        KG, you are an unmitigated prevaricator. I live in Texas and have been to gun shows. I have never ever seen any Nazi propaganda at any time. And please, if you really are a Texan don’t be advertising it. It’s quite embarrassing for the rest of us.

      • KG

        I did not say “I’m a Texan.” I live in Texas. Saying “I’m a Texan” is kinda embarrassing. It’s like saying ” I kiss my sister” or “I like fried possum.”

      • STEVE E.

        KG. You can never convince anyone you have been to a gun show. Why would someone spend money to get into a gun show when they are so frightened of guns as you are?

      • KG

        [comment has been edited]

        I’ll prove it by saying that there are always some people there who try to sell surplus ammo for twice the price you can get anywhere else – and people actually but it. Or the old guys who sell junk – I mean “antiques” for inflated prices. Or there is always some guy who was a Vietnam vet with a “Screw Jane Fonda” sticker on his backdrop.

    • JeffH

      Are you are saying that you “live in fear”?

      One of the many interesting things about life is that nothing of value was ever gained by playing it safe. Take, for example, the founding of America. Fifty-six men risked their lives by signing the Declaration of Independence. Their act of signing that document constituted treason and it was a serious offense according to the laws of the British Empire. However, they knew that they needed to sign that document in order to achieve independence.

      Most of our experiences in life are determined by our perception. Our perception of a situation determines our thoughts and that in turn creates how we feel about a situation. Thoughts and feelings work hand in hand. Each one influences the other.

      Let us say something makes you feel scared. That prompts you to worry and that worry then influences all of your actions. It affects how you talk and it even impacts your body. You get the nervous stomach and so on. That all began with a feeling.

      The best thing to do when confronted with anything is to view the situation with objectivity and an open mind. Be honest with yourself, too. When you put your emotions aside and can see something independently from what you may think about it, then you can cut through any possible delusion and see the situation accurately.

      Fear is tricky. It can disguise itself as being rational but it is not. Fear is like a con artist. It makes you think it is real but it only becomes real when you give in to it.

      Fear and risk does exist in all aspects of life. However, we become a slave to our fears only when we allow ourselves to be intimidated by it. Fear only becomes real when we believe that it is real.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Not so much living in fear Jeff. Not so much as it is a healthy concern. I am more concerned about criminals having guns then I am about gun regulations. I often hear people worry that gun controls will lead to tyranny. I am more of the mind that lack of gun control will lead to more gun violence. Perhaps I should manage my fears and I try to. Its just when I hear people condemn the generic statement “gun control” and make it seem like back ground checks will lead to gun confiscations I get worried.

  • Don 2

    April 19, 1775: An English attempt to confiscate guns from Americans triggered a successful revolution.

    Dear Congress, that’s a hint.

  • TNS

    I believe the saying is An armed society is a polite society. When people who respect the power of firearms and responsibility of owning firearms they tend to also value life more. Just because someone wants the most effective way to defend themselves does not mean they are going to go on a shooting spree. That’s what the progressive collectivist who falsely identify as liberals would have everyone believe. “Well why else would a person need a semi-auto rifle with 30 round mags unless they are going on a shooting spree.” Well no if that was the case we would have tens of thousands of these tragedies instead of the few caused by a crazy slipping through the cracks in a system that is working fairly well.

  • dan

    There’s nothing more embarrassing than having six and needing seven…or so I’m told.
    Thirty would be thought to be overkill,but with a gang of five ,that’s only six apiece.

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