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Saddle Up With Obama

June 16, 2012 by  



 
Bill Maher still doesn’t get it. Riding hard with Secretary Bryson. Chrissy Matthews backs the wrong horse. And make sure you leave the seat down for the President. All this, plus: “currying” favor with SJP. Presented in 1080 hi-def, FOR FREE! It’s The Great Eight; from the Personal Liberty Digest™!

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Jimmy The Greek

    Good One LMAO !

    • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

      Especially Sarah Jessica Parker! LOL!!! She looks more and more like an old nag the older she gets! WHEEEW!!! Mr. Ed wouldn’t give her the time of day! LOL!!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6Mj1Us13Yk

      LOL!!!

      • Karolyn

        I would sure love to see what YOUR mug looks like, Tom. It’s just plain low class to dispparage people’s looks when you have nothing else to say.

      • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

        Typical right wing meanspiritedness and I think she’s cute.

      • Michael J.

        David A. Deal,
        Last time I saw a beak like hers… It had a fish in it!
        If it wasn’t for homily Hollywood woman, their soft sissy-boy husbands would have no one to dance with. Do the math, Ewe.

      • Palin16

        Alright baby, it’s Saturday and time for the Tom vs. Karolyn fight. Right up there with Pacquiao-Bradley. And NOWWWW, ladies and gentlemen, fighting out of the blue corner, it’s the challenger Karolyn weighing in at 250 pounds (Karolyn marches in to the national anthem of mexico). Tom waits eagerly in the red corner. Ladies and gentlemen, let’s get ready to RUMMMMMBBBLE!

      • Karolyn

        Palin – Try half that 250 and add 20 to get to the IQ.

      • Roger

        She looks good to me

      • Palin16

        hahaha…high IQ living in a trailer park

      • JeffH

        Palin16 , LMAO! :)

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        Karlolyn I’d like to see… No on second thought I think I’ll pass! I’ve always imagined you to look like Maxine with an old torn bath robe and cigarette with about a two inch ash danglin’ outta yo bird lips! LOL!!!

        http://www.suzannesaysblog.com/maxine-halloween-vampires/

        Where do you sign indeed! LOL!!!

      • Karolyn

        Not that it matters, Palin, but I don’t live in a trailer park. And IQ really has nothing to do with where a person lives or vice versa. Many of the great minds and great artists lived in hovels. Money has nothing to do with intelligence.

      • Palin16

        Karolyn
        When did you move out of the trailer park?? You told us before you lived in a double-wide.

      • http://none Claire

        Stopped in to see what was going on– I see nothing has changed.

      • dufas magnet

        Little late here, BUTT!! … Palin16 says: “hahaha…high IQ living in a trailer park”..

        Bu.. But, trailer parks are people too…

      • Karolyn

        Hi Claire – How are you? How are your babies? Did you really think that anything would change? :-)

      • Karolyn

        PS – The childishness never ends, and a few more children have joined the fray.

      • Charles Bill L.

        Hey hey hey.

      • Deerinwater

        Appreciation is an ‘acquired’ skill, my apologies to all and please attempt to overlook Tom. I can’t explain or defend him. He’s the resident right wing ditto head and always present with a discouraging word and “put-down”

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          Pretty much hit the nail on the head there. My observation is that conservatives seem to embrace hate and anger far more than the average liberal. I know this to be true among my co-workers, friends and aquaintances. Yes I have some conservative friends but not many. They are so arrogant and uncompromising and so easily angered.

      • Steve Lyons

        She’s just on leave from the donkey show in Juarez………

        I pity that donkey…..

      • http://none Claire

        Karolyn–I am doing okay, the dogs are fine. My precious Abbey won a major 3 weeks ago. She is almost a new champion. My son had a heart attack . He is doing okay so far. He has 5 stints and 3 of them are clogged. The heart doctors want to insert new stints inside the old ones, Health Alliance will not pay for it, they do not want to pay for something that is already “fixed,” this is their excuse. Well, the stints are clogged now, and the doctors are fighting with the insurance company. My son is an engineer and works for IDOT. He pays towards his insurance but the state of Illinois does not pay their bills-wonder if this has something to do with it. I will be doing a lot of calling tomorrow at 8:00 sharp. I swear to God that if something happens to my son I will go to Chicago and find the best lawyer I can find, whether he or she is corrupt or not. I will fight this. When the doctors told me what was going on, I immediately thought “Obamacare” hasn’t gone into effect yet. Seems like everyone was screaming “death panels.” Sure wish my son had Blue Cross Blue Shield. Wish us luck.

      • Patty

        For all of you liberals out there who say that conservatives have the market cornered on attacking women, I remind you of the attempt to eviscerate the entire Palin family, Laura Ingraham and a host of others. People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

      • Karolyn

        Claire – So sorry to hear about your son. You and he are in my prayers. It’s great to have dogs to help to counterbalance the dips we go through in life. I don’t know what I would do without my babies and those that have gone before them. They have seen me through a lot of grief.

      • JeffH

        Claire, my thoughts and prayers are always with you and your family. Kudos to Abbey(not surprising at all). I know you’re not a quitter so beat the “He11″ out of Tim’s insurance company…stay strong as always and keep fighting for whats right.

      • http://none Claire

        Karolyn—First my husband and now my son. Unbelievable. Yes, my dogs keep me busy and thankfully I have them. I had to put Coco Puff down 2 weeks ago. Broke my heart again but it was for the best. She was having trouble getting around. She was on medication for the arthritis and one morning she would not eat. That is always a red flag. Old age is he!!. —

      • http://none Claire

        JeffH–Thank you very much for the kind words. Yes, I will continue the fight and do whatever is necessary. Like I said, wish us luck, we are going to need it.

      • JeffH

        Claire, I’m not a big believer in luck most of the time…but I do believe in a strong moral charachter and by golly you’ve got that. I’m quite sure Tim has it in his genes too.
        Both of you will find a way to make your own luck…and it will be the good kind of luck. :)

      • http://naver samurai

        First, glad to see you back Claire. I want you to know that Fluffy is very sick. She has contracted the harpo virus and she isn’t doing really well. Sook Young is very upset and is worried that she may die. Second, Karolyn, good to hear that you are a trim 120-125. Since getting out of the army, it is harder to keep the weight off. You say your IQ is at 270? That’s smarter than Einstein isn’t it? If you’re that smart, then why aren’t you the head of a business or running for office? I took the ASVAB test a year before getting out of the army and my IQ, GT in the military was 140. Pretty smart and using all of it to try to teach the 5th columners about how this country was founded and how it is suppossed to be. Third, I see that David Deal is at it again with the personal attacks against anyone not to the looney left of center. I guess it must be his atheist upbringing. I agree with Jeff H on his statements about you Claire. Just remember this:

        “God doesn’t require us to succeed, he only requires that you try.”

        Mother Teresa

        Keep up the good fight fellow patriots. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • dunce

        If she was really sex in the city, it would time to move to the country.

    • Warrior

      Jimmy, NotLMAO here. Open borders anyone? Sovereignty gone anyone? One world gubmint anyone? Insurmountable debt anyone? One world currency anyone? Anyone listening? Anyone watching? Anyone see the “end game” of the “progressives”? “TRANSFORMATION”? Anyone know what that means?

      Think back to WWII after the allies were able to confiscate the German “enigma” coder. Did our gubmint proclaim we had captured it? If someone in the gubmint had “leaked” that we had it, do you think maybe that person may hav
      e been charged with “treason”?

      The GOP does have several closet “progressives” as members. The socialist democrapic communist party is overrun with “marxist”. The lines are drawn, let the battle begin.

      • truesoy

        Warrior;

        One world government? It is coming, eventually.
        And the conservative republican puppeteers are up to their neck in it.
        But sarcasm aside, it is a reality whether we like it or not.
        Read the signs: the global economy, multinational companies, international banking, and other institutions, and last but not least, ‘the new world order’, which by the way was a very popular phrase of the Bush administration.
        Whether republican or democrat, it is going to happen. Get used to it.
        It is inevitable.

        Sincerely;
        Truesoy

      • Michael J.

        truesoy?
        Didn’t David slay Goliath?

        Here’s an idea… Either lead, follow, or get the Hell outa the way!!!

        • truesoy

          Michael J.;

          Liberals have been leading the way for centuries, but conservatives as usual are a speed bump in the highway of progress, and that tends to slow down the process a little, but to stop it.
          Humanity wouldn’t be where is at today if not for liberal resolve; and yes, we’ve dragged conservatives kicking and screeming along the way, and thanks to that they are able to enjoy ‘the fruits of liberalism’ while ironically they fight for conservative causes.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • Void1972

        Warrior

        It is very disturbing how corrupt our American media system is. I just read a book about Walter Cronkite and how corrupt he was as a news caster.

        Comrade Cronkite was bought and paid for by the Rockefellers who at the time were working on the “New World Order” and needed the daily media to keep quite on what was happening, just as we are witnessing today, things have changed little.

        These anti-American, one world Communist started to hide in the Democratic Party and now it reeks of Communism and a one world government.

        Just listen to Obama and Hillary when they speak and listen carefully when they speak about America’s sovereignty and the truth is right in front of you if you just listen!

        It seems that the powers that are, are 100% behind the Democratic Party and have been for many decades now.

        Most of our news media has been corrupted and I believe that even Bill O Reilly has been bought out.

        Glen Beck found out about the corruption game and left Fox News on his own because of the insanity and lies he witnessed on a daily basis.

        It is, without a question of doubt an act of treason that has been infiltrated on the Democratic/ Communist party for the last 40yrs.

        Corporations that back the democrats are one world government controlled and should be boycotted immediately, and every Actor, news caster and elected official that backs this treason should have the facts behind their politics brought out in public and held accountable for the treason they are committing on this great nation!

        Many RINO Republicans (Bush family and many others) are going along with this scam and should also be held accountable for treason against our Constitution!

        The entire financial fraud that was committed against American and European citizens, for the propose of demoralizing and gaining full control of the lives of all by taking away their homes and wealth is proof on how these bankers are working with our Governments to create the New World Order!

        We the people need to find a way to bring this corruption to justice and free America from these followers of evil and those who will do extreme harm to our families and our country!

        God bless America and those who fight for her!!!!

      • Michael J.

        Void1972,
        Yes, The Rockefellers shape the news. But it goes back much further than 40 yrs. Search the orgins of The Council on Foreign Relations, or CFR and their original mandate to control all media.

        As far as the NWO goes, the system they have designed shields the Elites themselves, while their surrogates take the heat. Once public desent/blowback reaches an intolerable level, they simply change the management. That’s what is happening now, Obama will be replaced by Romney. Though afterwards no change will happen. The effect will be like a smoker changing from Marlboro to Winston, there are minor differences, but both will kill you.

      • Warrior

        Yes, all those wonderful liberal ponzi programs like SS, Medicaid, Medicare, Obamacare, Patronage, Green Energy. Get in line for your daily fish handout. Thank you mister liberal “progressive freak”.

        • truesoy

          Warrior;

          Are you on SS yet, or Medicare?. Most likely not. But wait until you get there and tell us how you feel.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • JerryWheelerWroteThis..

        All you bozos are accusing the Dem party of being communistic, evil, low scum pukes as if your party is exempt to all this.. If your gonna brow beat one then assume that all parties are just as capable of being as corrupt as the others, other wise your only telling half truths and picking on people you don’t even know. Dems as well as Pubs would just as soon make every citizen slaves and if you think that’s B.S. then you ARE a losing cause.

      • Deerinwater

        “God bless America and those who fight for her!!!”

        While I admire your spirit, there is much more at stake. But for now, you feeling that way is by no means a bad thing. When the time comes for “events ” to be revealed to you, you will understand the need for a one world government. I feel comfortable in saying , you are I will be long dead by then, so please, ~ continue on.

        Coming too early to a party is worst then coming too late.

      • jopa

        JeffH: Where would you find the humor of someone living in a trailer park? That would would be a huge step up for you in that you are living penniless in your brothers basement.

      • JeffH

        jopa, if you couldn’t say something stupid you’d have nothing to say at all. You just can’t be fixed! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw Stupid is as stupid does!

      • http://naver samurai

        I see truesoy has shown his true traitorous colors of being in support of a one world government. What rational adult would want that? None that I know of. Most of the ones I know are fighting hard against it. We won’t stop as long as we have breath in our lungs, but your ilk are already dead. In fact, worse than dead. Why all the nonsense about conservatives being bad? Look what happened when liberalism took over in Rome, Germany, Russia, China, Vietnam, and many other places. You call these events good things? Just another less intelligent 5th columner. BTW, here is a song I found about Obama bin Laden.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?=vZLB8e62BulU&feature=related

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • Steve Lyons

      The real douche-bag is the one at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington DC…….

      • jopa

        JeffH;Those are just the facts that you have told us in the past of your circumstances.It is not stupid in that you fell upon hard times perhaps you are just not a lucky person.You always claim there is no cure for your stupidity but there is and the first step for you would be to do a lot of reading.Remember,RIF Reading is fundamental and we can fix stupid after all.No need to pass on your thanks to me I know how much you appreciate my wisdom in helping others and the likes of you. Have a Good Day.

      • JeffH

        jopa, (personal attack removed). All you’ve done is convinced yourself that your lies are true. The National Enquirer’s got nothing on you.

        You just can’t be fixed! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw

        FYI, after all these years you still don’t know where to post a reply comment…much like your alter ego eddie.

      • JeffH

        Interesting that my “(personal attack removed)” , as accurate and disparaging as they may have been. That’s a first.

      • http://naver samurai

        Just ignore Jopa Jeff H. He just doesn’t have the capacity to understand.

        “The problem with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but they know so much that isn’t so.”

        Ronald Reagan

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • LCalhoun

      Let me say this….. I have to be making $250,000.00 yr. to be a good Republican. No I don’t believe in SAME SEX/GAY MARRAGE, or ABORTIONS. But I know a LIER when I see ONE. Is (((PRESIDENT))) OBAMA perfect,,,, No. But he is the BETTER CHOICE for the country. He has done more in 3yrs then what any other President could do. The (REPTILES/republican’s) AkA-Snakes put up lies. You & anyone else will see the FACT from the LIES. The (reptiles)/Racists ALL WHITE PARTY. If this party is for GOD… Where is all the other Blacks/Brown/Red/Yellow-People at? If you look at all the other (Polls) The President is leading over Mitt? Sooooo, if you making [[[ Less then $250,000.00 yr. Why are you a REP. and if you are making more then $250K. Why are you not PAYING YOUR FAIR SHARE OF THE TAXES ]]]. This needs to stop… We all come from somwhere, Some was taken from their COUNTRY by FORCE, other’s wher killed and CHACE OUT OF MEXICO Ooooop’s Texas, NewMexico, Nevada, California, Utah,ect… What about the job [ Creator's ] most our RICH form Slave LABOR. This country have’s BLOOD on its HANDS. Hay take your time. You can’t stop the (Brown-Flood) this was from a RACISIES-WHITE-REPTILE/repbulicans. So make sure this PAGE have all it’s INFOMATION RIGHT. YES you will have more PEOPLE of color in office running for OFFICES. I hope it’s another person who understands my needs & love Christ, Trust in the TRUTH, and want to give ALL-Americans a fair SHARE in making MONEY. Please keep this from my e-mail. DEMOCRAT’s may not be all that perfict, but I’ll take the better hand of the STICK. I pray you get it right…… YOUR TIME IS ALMOST UP. (((((P.S.))))) President KING [ OBAMA ] will WIN again. You want to know why????? Mitt & your PARTY keep making him LOOK GOOD. Thank you sooooooo much. Real people now the TRUTH.

      • http://naver samurai

        You said this nonsense on another thread. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • nc

    Ben, Maher is a comic with a show! You are a silly POS who does hatchet jobs for the moss back Conservatives here at paranoid central!
    While we have the captain of the paranoid absurd here maybe you can answer some questions that I have from things I have read here!
    1. When do you think Obama will move to halt the 2012 elections? I have read it many times here! Before Labor Day???
    2. When will the NWO assume control of the USA?
    3. Is Obama becoming a dictator( also read here) a part of the NWO “thingy” or a separate part of paranoia?
    4. Can one be a “prepper” for more than one catastrophe?
    5.Will Dr. Paul win by the same “landslide” that Hannity predicted for the Republicans in 2006??
    6. Do you fear that Dennis Miller might live forever and you’ll be stuck with this gig??

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

      nc- must stand for NICE COMEBACK! Love to see voices of reason and common sense here at right wing whiner central. This guy is NO Commedian which he clearly wants to be and he is not a serious commentator which sadly he is delusional enough to believe he is.

      • Mikey

        IF you don’t like his humor or political perspective, THEN DON”T WATCH!

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        The Dennis Miller crack was worth honorable mention nc! LOL!!!

      • Warrior

        This is just amazing!

        Just got this from a reliable source!!!

        It has been leaked to the Press that Barack Obama

        has chosen Sylvester Stallone for his 2012 running mate

        and Nancy Pelosi for Secretary of State,

        and is dropping Joe Biden from the ticket.

        They will run as “Sambo, Rambo, and Bimbo”, without “Dumbo”.

      • Michael J.

        David A. Deal,
        No, nc=no clue, which you would have figured out for yourself if you were not a programed droid.

        Sorry for the slam… Only mean it in a fun way using the props that are available, can’t afford to buy new ones. Any resemblance to normal humans is purely coincidental. Just think of it as reverse-self deprecating humor.

      • Power To The People

        You progressive nerds would not know reality if it had 18 wheels and ran over you.

      • Roger

        I totally agree

    • justdooit

      What does NC stand for…NEO CON…disappear NOW idiotstick…

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        NO CAN see! LOL!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

        Warrior, justdoit and Tom W- nc shows intellect wit and depth and you people just can’t resist going all grade school on him. You are just mean and shallow!

      • JeffH

        David A Deal, Really, I mean really? All nc, truesoy, and I’ll include you in this as well, ever show is the depth of a mud puddle, a very dim-wit and the intellect of a blithering idiot.
        The only sense they have is the cents in their pockets or purses.

        None of you have a clue about what goes on in politics, let alone real life, other than being narrowminded and stuck in the Republiscam/Demoncrat paradigm.

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          Thanks for including me with two other fine voices of reason and sanity!

          • JeffH

            ROFLMAO! If only pigs could fly.

        • truesoy

          JeffH,

          Is there another choice?
          We know, or should know what republicans will do unto us that democrats won’t do.
          Get my drift?

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        BODYSLAM! BOOM!!! Sic ‘em JeffH! LOL!!!

      • usmadgirl

        Hey JeffH,

        Glad to see a name I recognize! Where’s JoeH & the rest of the “old crew”? I’ve been checking in every now & then, but haven’t seen many of the old regulars. Also, haven’t commented much. There isn’t enough space to say all I have to say these days! You think my old comments were long & detailed? They’d be book length now because I have more material on which to comment with all the illegal, ineligible, immoral, unconstitutional, executive order, dictatorship BS that is shoved on us ** on an HOURLY basis NOW instead of just a DAILY basis!

        ** (by “us”, I mean REAL, Common Sense, America-loving, free market Capitalist Conservative Constitutionalists, who can actually SEE what’s happening to destroy our Republic – NOT brain-fried, O’Dumbo worshipping, Common Senseless, Progressive, Gubment-dependent, baby-killing, Marxist mental patients who don’t deserve to live in this once-great country)

      • JeffH

        Hey, hey usmadgirl. Always enjoy your presence here…well grounded. There are still a bunch of us around fighting the good fight. Stop by once in awhile and say hi. Hope all is well with you too.

      • http://naver samurai

        Hello there usamadgirl. Long time, no see. The samurai is still here fighting the good fight, along side patriots like Jeff H, Palin 16, and many others. Like read this article about how Obama bin Laden is happy that business owners may have to go without paying themselves. Obama bin Laden is very happy at their misery.

        http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/5711/23-small-business-owners-went-year-without-pay-and-obama-is-happy-about-it/

        Good ol’ Obama bin Laden. Still staying the course of destroying this great country. Maybe he (COOTUS) should remember this:

        “I have one great political idea. The best expression of it I have found in the Bible. It is in substance, ‘Righteousness exalteth a nation, sin is a reproach to any people.”

        Frederick Douglass
        October 14, 1852

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • JeffH

        truesoy says, “Is there another choice?” (RE: repub/Dem paradigm)

        Absolutley there is, but one must be able to understand what the two party system really is and you’ve yet to figure that out…until such time as you do understand the “similarities” you will be led around with the rest of the flock. http://www.lp.org/

        Heads I win, tails you lose…that’s just a clue…

    • LGA

      Clearly you and Davd Deal are brainwashed Obamabot trolls paid by the DNC or various Soros organizations to make asinine comments on truth telling web.sites. Maher is only funny to dictator loving comme/fascist/nazis.
      Obama has made himself a dictator by not enforcing the laws of the USA and making edicts without being voted on by the CONSTITUTIONAL legislature. Wake up and smell the s___ this dictator Obummer keeps spewing out!

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        The kind of trollin’ they’re best at is done in the Village, LOL!!!

      • truesoy

        LGA;

        You and Tom W. need a vacation together in an isolated island, just to relax, nothing sharp though. And no alcohol, nor drugs other than your meds.
        ….And get back to us when you’re feeling better, we’d love to hear from you again.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        truesoy, I don’t need neither drugs nor alchohol, I GOT JESUS!!! A HIGH that surpasses ALL highs! LOL!!! Just PLAIN gitty, ya know? Oh, you don’t, do ya?! All ya gotta do is open the door truesoy! He stands there and GENTLY knocks. He won’t kick the door in if you won’t answer! He respects your FREEDOM of choice that much truesoy.

        • truesoy

          Tom W;
          You have Jesus, and that is good. But it doesn’t, nor it should be the justification for your shortcomings, many of which are an affront to the teachings of Jesus.

          Sincerely;
          Truesoy

      • Karolyn

        Yeah, yeah, yeah. People who like gto debate with those of opposite opinions have to be paid right? Give me a break. It’s getting tiresome already. As soon as someone of the liberal persuasion posts, somebody has to cry “troll” or “paid” or some other crap. Did you know that there are conservatives who post on liberal sites? Would you have thunk it?

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Tom W.,”

        “Truesoy” SEEMS TO HAVE THE HABIT OF TELLING PEOPLE THEY NEED THERAPY. HMN…GLASS HOUSES.

        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      • Warrior

        CHINESE PROVERB ORIGINAL: Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

        2012 UPDATED VERSION: Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with free monthly minutes, cash for clunker autos, food stamps, section 8 housing, free contraceptives, Medicaid, a hundred weeks+ of unemployment checks, a forty ounce malt liquor, access to drugs, and designer Air Jordan shoes, and he will vote Democrat for a lifetime.

        Ummmm, not much point arguing this situation. Ya know, there use to be a time, not so long ago, when Americans were a “proud” people. Now, not so much. Whatever happened to “personal responsibility?

      • JeffH

        Warrior, :) you get two thumbs up!

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        ONLY because we’ve got ONLY two thumbs!!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          I wish the DNC paid me. I’ve given about $200 this year to various charities, a little over half that to Obama and Democratic Senatorial efforts. Wish I could afford more. A little shy of the MASSIVE sums the KochSUCKER brothers have poured into Scott Walker and other Rethuglican efforts. The only good that has come of the “Corporations are People” ruling is a voluntary redistribution of wealth as they circulate some of their massive wealth back into the economy to newspapers, print shops, radio and tv stations, etc. TRy making 5 comments in a row with facts and no personal insults toward the writer (or in your case, your enemy)!

      • JeffH

        Tom W. liberals aren’t sure whether humans have thumbs or not. I think they’re a little confused they never see’um because they’re always sucking on one and the other one is shoved up their ___!

      • http://naver samurai

        Ah yes, here truesoy an atheist is going to talk about Jesus. Why would he talk about something that he knows nothing about. You say that some things that Tom talks about are an affront to Jesus, but so are many of the things you do and say on this site. You know lie, rhetoric, innuendo, hate, Christian bashing, bashing our Christian founding, etc. People, like you and your ilk, are a disgrace to this country.

        “The fool has said there is no God within his own heart.”

        Psalms 14:1

        David Deal talks about giving $100 dollars to Obama bin Laden and $100 to charity. Giving to charities is a good thing, but why are you so stingy in your giving when millions across this country are in dire need? Sook Young and I give 10% of our income in tithings to the church and also give to charities. This means we give $13,000 a year to the church and around $3,000 a year to charities. We are to give with our heart. But alas! You 5th columners don’t have any hearts.

        “Let it be impressed on your mind that God commands you to choose for rulers, just men who will rule in the fear of God. If the citizens neglect their duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will be soon corrupted. If a republican government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws.”

        Noah Webster
        The History of the United States

        This means Obama bin Laden and many others currently occupying Washington, D.C. Let’s clean house on November 2nd. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This means that David Deal, truesoy, nc, and many others do not qualify.

    • Cliff

      NC – Joy Behar and Rosie O’Donnell both called; and they said that they both wanted their brain back.

      Have you ever considered suing your parents for damages? No magistrate in the land would deny you a substantial reward.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        Come on now Cliff! Cut it with the redundant CRAP!!! To want something back is to imply that there WAS something that is now missing! THINK ABOUT IT CLIFF!!! Women like those two are the reason Muslim men invented Burkas! LOL!!! They wanna say it’s to hide the beauty of a woman because it is said to bring out the Jinn in men, LOL! Have you ever taken a good look at some of those camel callers over there?! LOL!!! I wonder what it is that turns their tooths black?! LOL!!! Lalalalalalalalalalala! Is that the correct way to spell one of those blood curtlin’ camel calls those babes be a doin’ after butcherin’ an innocent Israeli family or blowing up a bus of schoolchildren or something to that effect?!!

      • Karolyn

        Tom – It appears you have a fixation with looks. There must be something wrong with your vision. I have seen some really beautiful mideastern women. And when the eyes are only shown, there beauty really comes through. Not that looks mean anything. Usually, when somebody makes fun of others’ looks it’s because they are lacking in that department themselves.

      • Palin16

        Karolyn, have you ordered your burqa yet?

      • nc

        Cliff, I like the chances that either of those Liberal Women “without brains” could buy you out with the change in their ash trays?? Don’t forget to pick up your “call in’!!

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        LOL!!! Sic her PapaGriz! LOL!!! You got tears! LOL!!!

      • Opal the Gem

        Another day another nc comedy act.

      • http://naver samurai

        Well, well, well, if it isn’t nc (no cajones) come to troll the site again. Care to cite a source showing how smart these women are? Sarah Palin, Condi, Elizabeth Dole, and many others have more brains in their little toes than any liberal feminazi that ever lived in this country.

        “America was founded by people who believe that God was their rock of safety. I recognize we must be cautious in claiming that God is on our side, but I think it is all right to keep asking if we are on his side.”

        Ronald Reagan

        “No country upon earth ever had it more in its power to attain these blessings than United America. Much to be regretted would it be were we to neglect the means and to depart from the road which Providence has pointed us to so plainly.”

        George Washington

        Since our country has veered of this path, God has turned his face from us and now we are suffering more and more each day. Get with the program and stop being a 5th columner. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • metoman

      1. Good chance after labor day, they don’t want to upset the proletarians day in the sun.

      2. They already have assumed control. Have you looked lately? TSA and the Police State, banker bailout, insurance company bailouts like AIG, GE bailout, Goldman Sachs, J.P./ Chase and Jamie Dimond bailout and now back to their same tricks, MF Global and Corzine bailout, Wells Fargo caught laundry $371B drug money and gets a fine and no one goes to JAIL, Drone’s over U.S, NDAA and ……….. Do you think this just happens? It to think it all started because an guy couldn’t make his HOUSE PAYMENT. No my friend it is all engineered by someone!

      3. BHO goes to war without congress voting on it. He gives a pass on gun running and murder in Mexico. He has a death list with no trials and now unilaterally says he will not enforce the immigration act. He most recently declare young illegal aliens can now stay. What’s next? Stay tuned!

      4. Peppered, why not, the FEMA camps are ready and he has integrated the civilian police force with the military. To paraphrases his campaign statement; “we need a civilian police force equal to and just as well funded as the military,” what did he mean by that? Funny no media ask that at the time. Can you say SS.

      5. You will soon regret the day that Ron Paul left the stage.

      6. Dennis Miller, who is he:) I’m staying with Ben.

      Comment: the problem is not only BHO, he is merely a puppet along with all administrations, both parties, legislatures and courts; they are brought and paid for by the NWO. They may or may not know it. Rest assured there is a file on all of them just like me and you. Take a look who attended the latest Bilderberg Meetings.Have a nice day.

      • truesoy

        metoman;

        Don’t look now, ssshhhh; they are watching youuuuuuu!
        …and do not stop listening to the little voices in your head….for they’ll lead you to a happy place; and there the good people in the white gowns will take good care of you, they always do.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • Ted Crawford

        metroman
        Thankfully, Dr. Paul has not ” Left the Stage ” ! While I would fight very, very hard to keep him from the Presidency, I definately do not want him to just walk away! Most of his ideas are very sound and all are faithfiul to HIS interpertation of the Constitution ! Saddly for all his virtues he clings to his fatal flaw! If he could sit down with men and women like Gary Johnson and modify his foreign affairs and especially his National Defence posture, he would be as near perfect as any candidate I’ve ever seen!

      • nc

        Metoman, you say that I will regret the day Dr. Paul left the stage! I am 76 years old and I don’t
        recall any whistles and bells OF THE SECOND COMING going off the day he came upon the stage politically! FROM THE PRIMARY RESULTS IT SEEMS THAT ONLY 10% OF THE REPUBLICANS AND NO DEMOCRATS EVER EXPERIENCED THAT EPIPHANY!!!!
        I will admit I find more of his policies making more sense than the Republican platform that bush pushed and Mitt is backing to the hilt!! But that is a “November issue” and we have never had a “true conservative” that late in the political season!

      • Kate8

        true(GMO)soy – Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyone and everyone who disagrees with the way things are going has mental issues. We know. Stalin, Hitler, Mao et al used the same justification for ridding themselves of opposition.

        You might want to get a clue and check out this video to find out what fate has in store for your own sorry behind. The elite have no use for Leftists, either, after their usefulness to them has run out.

        http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2265/605/Obamas_End_Game_Revealed_By_Former_Spy.html

        Just remember, when the SHTF and you get kicked to the curb, there won’t be anyone left to help you.

      • usmadgirl

        Hey Kate8,

        Happy to see another name I recognize (besides JeffH)! Thanks for the link to the video.

        Lately, I’ve watched our Liberty being taken away on a DAILY basis, not “slowly” like it has been over the past century. The man in the video was right! Once you’re to a certain point, it’s inevitable! We should’ve, like he said, not sent letters to representatives that ignore them, but to have physically stopped the unconstitutional transformation to Communism in its tracks!

        Senator McCarthy (wish he were living today…he’d have a field day with the 81 + KNOWN Communists in the Dumbocraptic Party) TRIED to expose the Communists who had infiltrated our government, but everybody treated him like he was a “nut case” & destroyed him! I used to think they really thought he was nuts, but NOW I know they were using their Progressive Saul Alinsky tactics to make the person telling the TRUTH look like a monster just like they did Breitbart & are still doing with Glenn Beck, Rush, Sheriff Joe & others who were/are showing us proof & exposing the TRUTH of what was/is happening right under our noses! We are the “dupes” of a very scary, criminal & scandalous plot to collapse our entire system! It will also affect those who didn’t listen to what this so-called president said he was going to do & voted for this street thug, but we’ll be stuck right in the middle of it because of their ignorance & like the man said, there is NOWHERE ELSE TO GO! AMERICA WAS THE ONLY PLACE LEFT TO ESCAPE THE TYRANNY OF COMMUNISM!

        http://www.senatormccarthy.com/

      • Kate8

        usmadgirl – Hey! Great to hear from you. I don’t come around much anymore, either. Pretty much always the same ol’ thang. Once in awhile…

        Things have, indeed, gone way to far now. Too bad we didn’t catch on until now. Actually, I’ve been talking about it for some 20 years, but no one would listen. Not until just here lately. Now I’m becoming more vindicated among my family, but there is no sweetness to being right in this case. I’d way rather have been as nuts as they thought.

        Yes, it’s too bad we have no real statesmen anymore. No one who will stand and speak out no matter what the cost. No Joe McCarthys. Poor ol’ Joe took a beating from the Left but, as you said, it was all Alinsky tactics. He was right on the money, and he suffered greatly for his integrity.

        This is one thing that is really sad. We have people now (not so much in politics) who are sticking to their position and giving warning, and taking a great deal of abuse for it. People who are blowing smoke don’t risk their families and their lives. Only those who have a strong spirit and love of country and their countrymen risk all to inform people and suffer the ridicule and defamation that gets hurled at them. We must remember that and honor their strength. Few of us would have such courage.

        I’m thinking of Sheriff Joe and his men, Jerome Corsi, Van Iron, Steve Quayle, Orly Taitz, and a host of others who stand up and defy the PTB at great cost to themselves and their families.

        Evil cannot stand, and this time will be no different. They sure can create a lot of grief, though, in the meantime. But we have to be fearless and committed, and we will prevail. It’s just that time in this cycle where we are about to move forward in our evolution of consciousness, and evil is in its last throes. I have no doubt that they’ll try to go all out, and like all mortal diseases, will eliminate themselves right along with as many of us as they can.

        But, hey…one way or another…, see ya on the other side!

      • Michael J.

        Kate8,
        Yuri Bezmenov says it all. And in case you didn’t notice, the interviewer named G. Edward Griffin who authored “The Creature from Jekyl Island” is also a great fighter for the cause.

        Lastly, have no fear, there are millions of awake conservatives awaiting the signal. Proud Americans who abhor conflict, but will stand tall in defense of their offspring and the memory of their ancestors, whose sacrifices made our liberties possible.

        So say a prayer for peace and sharpen your bullets.

      • http://naver samurai

        Kate 8 and usamadgirl are correct in what they have posted. In fact, here is a source saying that Obama bin Laden has set himself up as a king and look at what he wants to do.

        http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/5709/obama-rex-the-presidencey-dead-all-hail-king/

        This will surprise you all. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • jt

      FYI, o dim-witted one: When the American public has become so dumbed-down that they vote to put a self-involved, Socialist egomaniac with less experience than a guy with hot dog cart, into the White House, then a certain amount of concern is certainly warranted.

      You call it paranoia because you are clearly not smart enough to recognize the risks to America’s future. Now go back and finish that glass of koolaide, your messiah is watching……

      • truesoy

        jt;

        You’ve just described ‘the american conservative’ to a ‘T’.
        A not too bright political creature !!!.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • Kate8

        GMObeanhead (truesoy)- We’ll see soon enough, won’t we?

        • truesoy

          Kate8;

          One question I always have is, why are conservatives such ‘suckers’ for gloomed and doomed scenarios?
          Conservatives are a ‘in fear of something bunch’, and are easily motivated by it. Really, I’m not kidding, they’ll do anything if you scare them enough, and their puppeteers know it.
          Remember, not too long ago all Bush had to do was to show the ‘terrorist level chart for the day (remember the color chart?) and everyone started running around like chickens without a head.
          This worked wonders for Bush, and he was re-elected to a second term.
          And now here comes the fear factor again. Conservaives are being told that:
          a) Obama is not an american, he is an illegal alien from Kenya. (this didn’t work that well last time, but nevertheless is being resurrected again)
          b) he is a ‘secret’ muslim that is going to……, just fiiling the blank, its your choice; but that did not work too well either, so now is..
          c) Obama is a socialist and communist and
          He is coming for your guns, he is going to crown himself president for life (well they haven’t say that yet, but give it time. They already say he wants to establish a dictatorship.
          All these insane rumors would be funny if not for the fact that most conservatives believe them. This should tell you something about them.
          But what conservatives fail to realize is, that while they are not communists in name, they are very similar in practice. Yes, communism is conservative; and they too dislike liberals.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        Grow up truesoy. Use some logic. To ignor the spiritual interconnectedness of existence is just plain stupid and delusional. Atheists have SIGNIFICANTLY more lifetime suicide attempts, more relatives who commit suicide, are younger, less often married, less often have children, and have less contact with family members. Atheists perceive fewer reasons for living, are more impulsive, agressive, and abuse substances. I told you that you, along with your ilk, need psychological therepy and heavy medications.

        http://www.ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/161/12/2303

        You and your ilk are in dire need of help. Along with the meds and shrinks, you can always go back to church and seek God and Jesus. They’ll take you back anytime you are willing. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Kate8

        truesoy – History unlearned is history repeated.

        I suggest you get ahold of a REAL history book and check out what really happened under Lenin, Stalin, Mao and the like. There are so many more examples as well.

        In Germany, just as now, there were rumors of people being rounded up and taken to camps. These were primarily people who went from town to town to give warning, as they didn’t have the communication we have now. The situation in Germany was nearly identical to what we have now. In fact, Obama is using the NAZI playbook, step by step. If you don’t believe it, check it out.

        Things were not being reported by the press. Many people had no idea anything was amiss. Most of the people thought like you, and those who were jumping up and down tring to alert the slumbering masses were ridiculed. Even when thousands, millions were disappearing, being incinerated, many had no idea. All who were in opposition to the regime were disappeared.

        Do you really think all of the legislation being passed and the EOs which are in direct violation of our Constitution are for no reason? This is exactly what Hitler did, as well. They like things to have the appearance of legality. Plus, they laugh at us for being so naive.

        truesoy, you are suffering from the same delusion that always happens to those who have become too complacent, too spoiled, too corrupted. It is a great flaw in humanity. We have become, as a people, disconnected from our higher mind, our soul, our spirit. We have come to worship the beast (manifest form) and reject our inner reason and the Divine Love which governs the entire universe, and when we are out of alignment with that Love, we decay and perish.

        All you have to do is open your eyes. Discard useless ideology. Belief is not truth, it is only belief. If you take a look at that video I posted to you, you will learn something. You will see how this was all planned long ago, and has followed (and succeeded) to a Tee.

        But humanity is catching on in increasing numbers. If you choose to remain in your delusion, you will be left behind.

        • truesoy

          Kate8;

          Not even Glen Beck (and we all know he is not playing with a full deck) would make these f outrageous comments, you are really over the edge..
          Ps.- the little antennas on your tin foil hat are facing the wrong side, please adjust them.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        Well said Kate 8. Just don’t expect truesoy to understand. Here is a video for you truesoy about your messiah Obama bin Laden.

        http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/video-is-obama-responsible-for-1000-kenyan-deaths/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Kate8

        Hi samurai – I don’t expect him to understand. As you know, Scriptures tell us that a great delusion comes over the masses, and they simply refuse to see.

        We must attempt to appeal to the soul and not the mind. Some are just lost, and will be “recycled” by Creator. That is not for us to say. But is for us to offer what wisdom we have gleaned during our lives, and what we have received from Spirit. That is all we can do.

        The best thing we can do, as God’s people, is to expand the Love in our own hearts. This is protection for ourselves and families, and lifts the world’s darkness that much more. Each person who raises his own level of Love in alignment with God’s Consciousness, exponentially increases that Consciousness upon the Earth.

        Dont ever forget that Christ, horribly persecuted unto death, prayed to the Father to “forgive them, for they know not what they do”. These are not all bad people. They have not received Light and don’t make wise choices, because they have never been taught. Many Christians know not Love, as well. “My people perish for lack of knowledge”.

        Best to you and Sook, and keep the faith.

      • http://naver samurai

        Thank you fellow patriot. The same to you and yours. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • http://naver samurai

        Ah yes! truesoy shows his lack of intelligence by not posting facts, sources, debate, but instead decides to deliver a personal attack. Classic 5th column strategy. You do know what a 5th column is, don’t you? If not, read the book “The Landing” and have your mind awakened. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • Judy Crane

      Question three: How many more executive orders do you think he will issue before the elections. Why is he by passing the check and balances. Answer: He knows the majority do not want what he is issuing. How long before he attempts to stop term limits so he can continue. Who knows? Don’t have time for your other foolish questions but maybe you should wake up and smell the regression we are going to have if this group stays in office.

      • truesoy

        Judy Crane,

        I don’t know whether is Rush, or the little voices inside your head that are lying to you; but either way you should tune them out, and relax. No one is coming for you, really.

        sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        Here are some things you many not know about Obama bin Laden.

        http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/06/12/democrats_face_reality_obama_in_trouble

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • http://naver samurai

        Care to cite a source to back up that personal attack of yours, hmmm? I don’t think you will as your ilk are too mentally incapable of performing such actions.

        “In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior (Jesus). The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity.”

        John Quincy Adams

        John Quincy Adams, An Oration Delivered Before the Inhabitants of the Town of Newburyport at Their Request on the Sixty-First Anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, July 04, 1837 (Newburyport: Charles Whipple, 1837), pp. 5-6.

        I guess you, David, nc, and others of your ilk, need to study more than it seems you have. We were founded on Judeo-Christian principles, so get off telling lies and trying to rewrite our history. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. That leaves you 5th columners out.

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          just a reply related to the executive orders thing. The right wing commentators, Hannity, Limbaugh, here, Faux News , etc keep telling people Obama is bypassing the Constitution with executive orders and flaunting his dictatorial power avoiding Congress and the Courts. The fact is if he did something unconstitutional the Courts WOULD strike it down. Second NO ther President since perhaps Andrew Johnson in the aftermath of the civil war has faced anywhere near the opposition from the other side which has ONE motive and that is to make Obama fail and look bad by denying him the ability to change anything. Third, you have to go back to Chester B Arthur to find a President who has issued fewer executive orders. Obama is I believe now at 123 while HS Truman issued nearly 900 and FDR well over 4,000 so why does the right fail to put it all in perspective? Because the WHOLE truth will hurt there efforts. Telling only a part of the story intentionally leaving out key elements is the same as LYING!

      • http://naver samurai

        Sheesh David, you and truesoy are the least intelligent posters here. Here is something else about how Obama bin Laden and his administration are ignoring laws to push their legislation onto the American people.

        http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0612/77486.html

        Looks like Obama bin Laden is not only an illegal COOTUS, but he’s breaking laws to force his policies onto the American people. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot!

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          When you call people stupid who clearly are not it is obvious you feel threatened. The Obama bin laden, Obummer, President Kardshian, Barry nixon obama and all the other disrespectful names your kind call our President is unacceptable. I was ashamed of GW but never called him names. I was embarrassed to have a President who could barely speak english and had an entire daily calendar made of all the incoherent statements he made. But I never got personal or crass. I questioned his and Cheney’s motives for war that enriched his oil buddies and Halliburton and I detested the arrogance of “I’m the decider” and Cheney’s pure meanness. But the vitriol from day one toward Obama before he did one single thing from those on the right reeks of bigotry. And I am offended by your arrogant “love and fear of god and country patriot” (expletive deleted). One can be patriotic in many ways and your narrow definition does not negate that.

      • http://naver samurai

        First, me, threatened by you and truesoy? Ha, ha, ha, ha! Thank you for the laugh. I was having a bad day till I read that comment. If I wasn’t scared of bullets, bombs, and mortars in Iraq and Afghanistan, then I definately am not scared of the 5th columners on this site. Second, you say I shouldn’t call anyone names, like dumb, but them you have part of your post deleted due to your bad language. Now calling someone stupid isn’t nice, but you have topped me with the “deleted” statement. Calling the COOTUS names? How about your ilk, the 5th column, calling President Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 a bunch of names? If this COOTUS would just tell the truth about himself, then I’ll bet a lot of the name calling would cease. What ever happened to our God given right of Freedom of Speech, hmmm?

        “Congress shall pass no law…abridging the freedom of speech…”

        1st Amendment, U.S. Constitution

        Here you all say we should get over the birth certificate controversy, but yet you all wouldn’t let up about Bush serving in the Air National Guard during Vietnam. At least Bush served, why couldn’t Obama bin Laden? Ooops! I forgot that Indonesian citizens can’t serve in our military. Fourth, Bush’s speech problem? Have you ever heard the COOTUS speak without a teleprompter? Uhh-umm-uhh-duh-well-uhh. Don’t sound too intelligent to me. Fifth, how is not liking the current pretender in office racist? Since I have never posted any racial slurs or material on this cite for the last 3 years, your personal attack falls flat on its face. I don’t like the current pretender, not because of his skin tone or where he may be from, but just against him being inelidgible according to the Constitution, his policies that have been forced on the people who do not want them, bowing and disgracing this great country, alienating our allies, unconstitutional bailouts and government takeovers of businesses (GM), fast and the furious fiasco, NDAA, extending the stay of our troops in Afghanistan for another 10 years (Though he promised to pull them out), many broken promises, and many other things. Sixth, many ways to be patriotic? Sure there are, but you and your ilk don’t seem to fit any of them.

        1. Serving
        2. Voting every 2 years, no matter who is running.
        3. Going by our founding principles and not with the flow.
        4. Not attacking our Christian founding.
        5. Going strictly by the Constitution.
        6. Believing in Freedom of Religion, not freedom from religion.

        Sorry for the long winded response, but I hope you understand what I’m saying. I don’t expect you to though. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • JUKEBOX

      Bill Maher is about as funny as a truckload of dead fetuses. He is a vitriolic attempt at comedy. Good comedy has to have some truth in it, and Maher is as truthful as Obama and Eric Holder.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “JUKEBOX,”

        THANK YOU. I AM A Richard Pryor MAN!

        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    • jopa

      Who is Dennis Miller?Or did you mean Roger Miller?

    • Opal the Gem

      “Ben, Maher is a comic with a show!”

      If Maher is a comic then Ben Crystal is a comic genius

  • boyscout

    Ben, no matter how much canned background is added in, abortion in the seventh month anywhere in the world, is no laughing concern – even the Libs draw the line at two to three months. Also, name calling your comic competitors demeans you and, I think your shtick would source more humor if you rose above this and drove your point else wise. But, please keep working on your routines, as we all appreciate good humor.
    best wishes.

    • LGA

      Libs are for abortion to even at the moment of natural delivery. Sorry you are so misinformed.

      • Chester

        LGA, perhaps you should have been aborted, by natural or unnatural means, as for sure you know NOTHING about what most LIBs, as you insist on calling anyone who does NOT agree with every word out of your mouth, think. Yes, there ARE times when abortion just prior to delivery is mandated, to save the mother’s life. Usually, cases like that are avoided by C-sections, but not everything can be, or should be, predictable. Normally, first trimester abortions are not a terribly serious problem, other than to the mother, and perhaps, father, who have to make the decision to give up on that potential life. Now, get YOUR head out of your nether orifice and actually learn something before sounding off on what you know nothing about.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Chester,”

        THE MOTHER’S LIFE IS NOT IMPORTANT. SHE SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BEFORE SHE “OPENED HER LEGS.”

        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      • GALT

        Some very strange things seem to have happened of the road to “The Right to Life” movement………

        1.) while the concern is for the “unborn”, it seems to disappear at birth…..what happens to the children appears to be of no consequence……..

        2.) there seems to be a very strange co-relation of this position, with those who are religiously affiliated………for christians this is particularly ironic because A.) they apparently do not seem to trust God’s love and fear for the fate of the child? B.) that if this
        is a sin, they apparently do not trust God’s judgement in the punishment of it? C.) they missed the part about not judging? D.) or that God’s kingdom is not of this earth?

        This rather strange set of circumstances has a similarity to those who claim an understanding of the “unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,
        which government is assigned to secure……yet from some reason they fail to grasp that, air, water, food, clothing and shelter are MANDATORY requirements to actually sustain life
        at a minimum.

        If we take both of these how do we explain the claim of understanding and belief, when the evidence suggests that in practice, no evidence seems to exist for either?

    • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

      Nice tie Ben, ya tryin’ to get a date with Shep?! LOL!!!

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “boyscout,”

      ABORTION IS W-R-O-N-G. PERIOD. I DO NOT CARE IF RAPE OR INCEST IS INVOLVED. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHICH PROVES SO-CALLED RAPISTS HAVE BIO-GENETIC DISORDERS. MEDICAL TECHNOLOGY IS OUT-OF-CONTROL BY GIVING PARENTS THE OPTION OF ABORTING FETUSES WITH PHYSICAL IMPAIRMENTS. QUACKS OF THIS “ELK” SHOULD BE PROSECUTED FOR CAPITAL MURDER.

      CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      • Kate8

        Has anyone taken a look at the huge, mega-profit industry that has grown since legalized abortion? There is really big money in fetal parts. These unborn (sometimes just born) are dismembered and sold to all kinds of companies… Not just for medical research, but to food and beverage companies, cosmetic companies… And Obama says it’s fine…just part of business practices.

        What possible reason could food companies have for putting human fetal tissue in food and beverages? While they say it’s for “flavoring” (???!!!), that makes no sense. It has to have something to do with altering our DNA. We have been turned into cannibals without our knowledge or consent.

        Anyway, we’re talking about some people making huge money off of every aspect of abortion. Who cares if the guv pays for it… they make far more on the other end of it than it costs them.

        Just when you think we’ve hit bottom on the degenerate scale, it gets worse.

        Many prophecies tell of this time when people are sacrificing and eating their children. We always assumed it would be due to famine. Now we know it’s just due to heartlessness and corruption.

      • Karolyn

        Did you find that on Before It’s News too, Kate?

      • Kate8

        Nice try, Karolyn. It’s been reported all over, and Obama, himself, commented on it, saying that he thinks it’s okay. Just business.

        Besides, BIN carries the same reports you see all over. They all have the same sources. They just have several topics…something for everyone. Some news, some off the wall stuff.

        Your attempt to ridicule me (again) doesn’t faze me. It’s not as if you hold much credibility with me, either, dear.

        BTW, here is one of many articles on said issue:

        http://www.cogforlife.org/2012/03/05/obama-agency-rules-pepsico-cannibalizing-aborted-fetus-is-ordinary-business/#more-98

      • Kate8

        Oh, and Karolyn. Speaking of BIN (which YOU introduced me to), here is an article listing the companies which use fetal tissue in their products. Hey, you can check it out if you don’t believe it.

        http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2239/744/Must_Read_List_Of_Aborted_Fetus_Products_On_Grocery_Shelves.html

    • Void1972

      boyscout

      Hence the name void1972 and the horror the liberals created for America!

      In 1972 the beginning of the end of America was created in our liberal courts with the abortion ruling of Roe vs. Wade.

      1972 was the height of the communist induced sexual revolution and thanks to the insane ruling, multi millions of innocent unborn children were murdered.

      All of the murder of innocents created a void in America that will be remembered as the beginning of the end of a once great nation.

      By 1984 America’s economy was growing at such a fevered pace that we had to fill the void of child workers that would normally be doing simple jobs in landscaping,
      restaurants, simple construction and so on.

      To fill that void we had to let in millions of illegal workers, creating the nightmare we are now witnessing.

      The murdered American children would have been at home buying age by the late 90s and early 2000s.

      Because of the lack of home buyers, our progressive leaders and bankers came up with the scam to give the homes away to the same illegal’s that have already cost America multi billions of dollars, while they made billions of dollars in profit!

      Was the court’s decision an act of pure and simple evil, or was this a simple act of problem, reaction, solution created by the same communist that fight for the obamanation?

      The financial crisis destroyed America and Europe and now we will all suffer from one extremely evil decision on the fate of the unborn.

      It’s strange to see that abortion has been eliminated in the black and Spanish community because each baby is considered a win in the lottery with unlimited tax payer cash flowing to the mother!

      In the white community abortion is considered a saving grace from bankruptcy!

      In the end we all reap what we sow and an act against God will rarely go unpunished!

      God bless America and those who fight for her!!!!

    • Void1972

      If you doubt the facts, please think back to the late 70s and early 80s. Schools across America were closing because of the lack of children!

      How could schools be closing when we just had a sexual revolution where girls were getting pregnant at an unprecedented rate yet America went through an 8yr period of historic low childbirths?

      Do your homework!

      • Void1972

        Happy Fathers Day!

  • Sirian

    Oh Obummer you’ve finally pulled it off – been wondering how long it would take – save the kids of illegals. If that isn’t a play on emotions what is? No telling how many strings are attached to this political maneuver. I know, doesn’t matter, the votes are the primary objective anyway. Costs are negligible. Napolitano will have a hay day with this one.
    Unfortunately the illegal Hispanics will join in force to support this Socialist/Marxist while not realizing nor actually caring what his true intention is. As far as they’re concerned, crap, Zippity-Do-Da, more freebies!!! Ah hell, why should any of us complain, we’ll gladly pay for it anyway. Just what everyone wants!! My Lord, just wait for what the MSM poles are going to be showing? Doesn’t it just rip your heart to deport these fine people that have come to take advantage of all there is to have, to no end?? NO!!!

    • Karolyn

      Try to put yourself in somebody else’s shoes for a change, Sirian. How would you feel if your parents had brought you here as a child; you grew up here and consider yourself an American. Then somebody comes to you and tells you you have to leave the only home you’ve ever known and go to a foreign country. Think about it. It’s not the kids’ fault they’re here. They had no choice in the matter. Of course those who only think of “me, me, me” have no feelings for people in that kind of situation.

      • Mikey

        I agree, there are many children of illegals who shouldn’t be punished for the crimes of their parents. However, the parents should be held responsible. It’s not an easy problem to solve, and should be looked at on a case by case basis. The high-school graduate that speaks little or no Spanish certainly should not be deported just because their parents jumped the fence when they were 3 years old. Perhaps giving these kids a shortcut opportunity to become U.S. citizens is the answer, but again, on a case by case basis.

      • LGA

        Our laws were broken. Their parents should have thought of that when the illegally entered our country and took jobs from our citizens.
        Illegal immigrants and their children should not be thinking of “me, me,me” when they take jobs from legal citizens!

      • Sirian

        Karolyn,
        It is so easy to see that it is a play on emotions. You’re showing it quite well. Everyone feels for the kids that have been brought in, please. It’s simply a matter of what their parents have done which does not, rightly, Constitutionally, give them anything. So, the kids have been used as pawns by both their parents and now Obummer. Set your emotions aside and look at the whole picture. Emotions are vitally important but they can deceive you to no end also. Be cognizant of this and let not they be the controller.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        What part of ILLEGAL do you not understand there Broomhilda?!! WE ARE OUT OF MONEY and allowing illegals to come into this country and drain the system is treasonist! Aren’t you paying attention to what is happening in Cali you unrepented libtard?!! What’s next borrow TRILLIONS from China to help and try to pull Europes a$$ out of the abyss?!! Got your Rosetta Stone CD on Mandarin Chinese yet Karlolyn?! Your probably ALREADY fluent!!! Ching ching.

      • alex

        question? whats the difference between an idiot and a liberal? answer NONE

      • dave mitchell

        I can believe there are people as idiotic as you out there,look what is at the helm of this once great land. I’m 57 all my savings is gone,no pension left.And I have to go to home depot and see the illegals lined up with materials going to jobs I used to bid on.Bite Me!

      • JUKEBOX

        Karolyn is making an excellent case for Barak Hussein Obama, Jr., who was brought here as a child by his mother. Oh,maybe that is why he has come up with this executive fiat.

      • Sirian

        Mikey,
        Could you please tell me both how and from what source the “case by case basis” you speak of could be funded? Do just a bit of natural thinking on this – may be difficult but give grey matter between your ears a good workout. Also, how many cases would there be that must be handled individually? Millions, hundreds of thousands? Either way, you take the time and manpower necessary to follow through with something such as that is about as profitable for the politicians as Solyndra. You must be lacking in a very helpful skill – common sense!

      • Karolyn

        Somebody self-righteously said “Our laws are broken.” I would doubt that any one of you has never broken a law! No need for the name-calling Tom, although I don’t think you’d be able to post if you couldn’t use rudeness. That takes too much intelligence.

        Many of these people brought here as children have become proeductive members of socieity, getting through college and going on to become successful. Maybe we should send some purebred American F-ups back in their stead!

      • Sirian

        Karolyn,
        You just made about as much sense as a horse-fly. “Somebody self-righteously said “Our laws are broken”. Honestly, if you can’t distinguish the difference between entering our country ILLEGALLY and a traffic ticket – both are laws broken – then you truly must have about as much common sense and true devotion to your country as that horse-fly I mentioned above. There is such a significant difference between the two even though they are both laws. It’s that difference that you can’t, or should I say, WON’T accept. You obviously are much more susceptible to illusions than you yourself realize. If I were a professional con man I could take you for every penny you’ve got and you’d still think it was perfectly fine. Good Lord Karolyn – WAKE UP!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

        Karolyn and truesoy LOVE your comments!

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “LGA,”

        YOUR COMMENTS ARE ON POINT! ILLEGAL HISPANICS WHO CAN NOT SPEAK A BIT OF ENGLISH HAVE A DEVASTATING IMPACT ON NEGRO MALES SEEKING CONSTRUCTION- AND OTHER “BLUE-COLLAR” WORK. BUT, OH, NO! THE JAILHOUSE IS FOR NEGRO MALES.

        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      • Ted Crawford

        Very nice application of Uncle Sauls Rule Ten ! You seem very concerned with the children of the illegals, while completely unconcerned with the children of American citizens. This idiocy, if allowed to stand ( which is highly unlikely) , will, by adding unknown millions, make it even harder for American youth to find adaquate employment !
        This isn’t rocket science, nor any moral dilemma, If one can’t provide the basic needs for their own family, how does it make any moral sense to deprive them of what little you do have of these, to give something, you clearly do not posses, to others outside the family

      • Palin16

        The illegal aliens are not true Americans as Obummer would have you believe. Many of the ones in my neighborhood stubbornly cling to their language, their customs, their monotonous music, their grafitti, and their flag. They make no pretense of assimilation whatsoever.They even get their lunch from the roach-coach so they won’t have to bother with English at all. Obummer is just pandering for votes. As one Mexican girl wrote into my daily newspaper today: “I still will not be able to vote, but all my friends and family sure will.”

      • Power To The People

        I had to wipe a lot of tears from my face on that one Karolyn. Whst if my parents are bank robbers and they use the millions they stole to buy a house on the golf course with a pool and three vetts in the driveway. I enjoy my house and the money…not my fault my parents broke the law and spoiled me on filets and fine wine by my pool on the 17th fairway. Geez…you libs crack me up!

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – Children always suffer for the crimes and mistakes of their parents. It should be up to the parents to find a way to deal with it. It is not the job of government to insure that kids aren’t affected by the choices of their parents.

        There are millions of American children who can’t get the opportunities given to these illegal foreigners, while their own parents are having to foot the bill to provide the illegal kids with things they can’t provide for their own.

        When will you liberals ever figure out that life isn’t fair? And why do liberals always bleed for those who have broken our laws and siphon off our own system, while caring not at all for the plight of our own citizens?

        Had this stupid system not provided incentives for people to break our laws and steal across our borders, we wouldn’t be having this problem. The only way to do right by our own people is to encourage them to return home so we can provide for our own who are suffering. There is no moral virtue in placing foreigners over our own.

        Would it make any sense for parents to provide for neighbor children while neglecting their own? Would such parents not be considered criminal? So what’s the difference?

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          At least we Liberals try to make an effort to level the playing field, to make life more fair. Right wingers seem to thrive on the pain of others because it makes them feel better about their own shortcomings. I speak from experience because I know conservatives who are not happy and do things to bring their fellow man down. It’s a sickness.

      • Kate8

        Level the playing field? So, you think everyone should just be the same, regardless of intelligence, motivation, willingness, character or any other thing.

        The problem with you liberals is that you don’t live in the real world. You have this ridiculous Utopian idealism, which has only ever wrought tyranny and bloodshed on this Earth. It CANNOT work, because it means trampling the rights of some to insure the “welfare” of others. THAT is not fair. Many of us just want you clueless do-gooders to just leave us the h*ll alone. If you want to hand over your OWN possessions to others you deem entitled, go right ahead. Let US CHOOSE who we share our stuff with.

        We were not created equal in any way except that we were born with natural, God-given rights to be free from others imposing their own will on us. Yet, that is exactly what you liberals want to do. Humanity cannot thrive on sameness. Everyone has different levels of what they are willing to do, and everyone has different lessons they came into life to learn. That is not for you to decide.

        Where is your compassion for the unborn? Do they not have the right to live?
        Do people who struggle and work hard not have the right to the fruits of their own labor?
        How do you justify the government intruding on every aspect of our lives?
        Where is your concern for your countrymen who have lost everything they’ve spent their lives building?

        So many of the illegals come into this country SPECIFICALLY to give birth, because they know the liberals will take care of them. They know that once they are here, their offspring can soak the taxpayers for lots of free stuff. The only way to stop this is to stop the free stuff, and make the parents accountable to their OWN children, just as WE are held accountable for ours.

        If people don’t expect to be handed things for nothing, they learn to do for themselves. You liberals have instilled such a sense of entitlement in people that they expect to be given what they don’t have coming to them, and they get angry when they don’t get it.

        You are so full of it that you can’t see past your own ideological bias. Yes, it would be nice if we lived in a perfect world. But government cannot make the world perfect. It can only oppress, and its nature is corruption. It can only gain power by plundering its citizenry, and does so by appealing to the masses’ lust for free stuff.

        Check out the link I posted above to truesoy and see just what your compassionate progressive icons REALLY have in store for you and America.

        Geez.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, you go girl! David A Deal just another blithering liberal idiot. This guy thinks nc and truesoy are genius…stupid is as stupid does! :)

  • Cliff

    Give me 10 minutes alone with that ineligible, unqualified Oreo orangutan, with full immunity; for the two of us to go into a soundproof room, that no one can see into, that locks and unlocks from the inside.

    10 minutes with full immunity is all that I ask . . .

    • Mikey

      “Ineligible, unqualified Oreo orangutan”? Hey, I don’t like Obama either, but name calling is not going to solve anything. And it seems that your request for “10 minutes” might infer that somehow violence is the answer. Nice guy!

      • Ted Crawford

        Thank You Mikey!

      • Power To The People

        Grow a pair Mikey!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          Sounds lie Mikey already has a pair (of brains) compared to your half brain.

      • eddie47d

        Maybe Cliff and Power would like to abolish the voting booth and take down the government by force. Then they can control the rest of us by the barrell of the gun.

    • http://Liberty Tony

      To Cliff:
      Stupid statements like this is the reason why we conservatives will lose. We need to concentrate on the bad policies not on ethnicinity. Next, it’s true, our nation needs to welcome the immigrants. Granted, criminal types should be weeded out, yet, we have to push for full assimilation of these immigrants. Finally, to put it in the modern sense, immigrants are the backbone of our econ. Without them, our nation’s society will come to a grinding halt within 5-10 yrs. Thanks and have a good weekend.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        Besides that, O’d kiss yo hunky a$$! LOL!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        Oops! I meant KICK! LOL!!!

      • alex

        only if they come here leagle

        • truesoy

          alex;

          leagle?
          ..a little english 101 in your schedule might help you. Or you could ask an immigrant.
          Just saying…..

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • alex

        the spell check on this site must be run by liberals if you think you have misspelled a word and go to spell check they give you such stupid choices they don’t even resemble a real word

        • truesoy

          alex;

          funny,
          you are against something you can’t spell…..
          typical conservative..

          Sincerely;
          Truesoy

      • JUKEBOX

        Maybe Cliff resents the “WHITE” part of Obama’s genealogy. I think you are assuming too much.

      • JeffH

        Tony, why do you persist with your perpetual lie of “I’m a conservative”. Despite what you may think, you’re fooling no one but yourself. Bottom line, at best, you’re a liberal moderate but you ain’t even close to being a conservative.

      • http://Liberty Tony

        To Jeff H.:
        Yes sir, i’m a conservative. The difference between me and you is that it seems from the comments you and other of your cronies write down make yourselves look like crossburners. You know to think of it, i might be a liberal, that’s a classical liberal. A person, who, believes in econ. along with civil liberties for all. So long!!

      • JeffH

        Tony, you’re so full of it your eyes are brown. Oh, and you still believe Obama is qualified to be president based on his 14th Amendment citizenship too!

        Did you vote for “Hope & Change” in 2008? Just askin’.

        FYI, how did you decide I was a “cross burner”…from jopa or jeff maybe? If so, you’ve no credibility at all and if not, you’re rapidly losing any credibility you may have once had.

        You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

      • Kate8

        Hey, JeffH. Have you gotten the phone call that says, “We understand that you are frutstrated with the political direction this country is taking. We would like you to participate in the brief survey, and tell us your views on some of the issues.

        “For your participation in this survey, you will receive a free cruise to…”

        WTH? Yep. Sure. I’m going to give my views on the “political direction” and then get on a large boat with people who think like me, courtesy of the guv…

      • eddie47d

        Thanks Tony for noticing the cross burning tendencies of so many here. It’s like they are wearing a bulls eye on their shirts.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, I’m sure I have but I hang up on all pre-recorded messages, Obama’s and Romney’s include. Do the same if I don’t hear a live response when I answer .

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Yes, I always hang up on them, too. I just happened to listen long enough to get the gist… and I was particularly startled by it. I mean, obviously they have a list of those who are “frustrated with the way this government is heading”, and who offers a cruise for taking a dumb survey. But, hey…I suppose that paying for a “cruise” is cheaper and less messy than sending a squad… And they can get a shipload of birds with one stone…

        This is so obvious as to be almost laughable. Except it’s not funny. I gotta wonder just how many takers they’re getting.

    • Karolyn

      Oooooh! Big man! Oh, yeah, violence solves everything!

      • Power To The People

        Demorats and their allies should know they use it all the time….

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        When comes to shove it does Karlolyn! Socialistic government would be in place now if the proponants had the intestinal fortitude to try and implement their agenda!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

      Yep a troglodite always resorts to force when his intellect fails him. Why don’t you just spare mankind and walk noff a CLIFF!

      • truesoy

        David A Deal;

        It is only right to note how violence is always the ‘tool’ of first resort for the ‘intelligence impaired’.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • Ted Crawford

        Truesoy
        Do you EVER have anything substantive to add to any descussion? Grow up ! !

        • truesoy

          Ted Crawford;

          …and what was wrong with my comment?
          Was I not correct in my assertion?.
          I believe I was.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Since you don’t seem to have anything intelligent to bring to this forum, would you care to let us all know why your supposed “intelligence” is failing you.

      • http://naver samurai

        I see that truesoy has described himself to a “T.”

        “By means of schrewd lies unremittingly repeated, it is possible to make people believe that heaven is hell-and hell heaven. The greater the lie, the more readily it will be believed.”

        Adolf Hitler
        Mein Kampf

        But alas! This is the way of the 5th column traitor in our midst. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • http://gravatar.com/catman11 coal miner

      Cliff,
      You sound like a red neck bigot.You can cut the horse Sh*t.

  • sandman4X4

    good job again Ben! just better look out obummer and his friends like NC might have you on there (list). But the only list I see you on is the hit list! oh and by the way who is this guy they are talking about Maher? not sure I’ve heard of him, oh well some of the media chan. will give anyone a show that has a min. of talent at making light of the right, but thats all we know they can do is make light, not one thing poss. or any real good ideas! like the latest one about letting Illeagals kids stay here longer and with a fresh start, sounds like a nice Christian idea! helping the poor, or maybe it is pandering for votes, lets see which one is in obummers heart?

    • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

      Ben’s description of Maher was quite sanitized I would think! If Bill Maher actually believes that the people in this country are as STUPID as he seems to think by his recent crack about Romney’s religion (With which, I MUST AGREE!!!) and him being the president we deserve, why don’t he pack his elevator shoes and get the f#@k out?!! By the way, you can’t judge the rest of the country by the collective IQ of your libtard fan base which begins with a DECIMAL POINT! LOL!!! Whataya think about that .000?…. That’d be you Karlolyn! LOL!!!

      • Karolyn

        Well, Tom, if your IQ is judged by how you can spell a name that you see all the time, you cerrtainly rank at sub-par.

      • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

        I’d face any of you right wingers head to head on jeopardy or an IQ test. The sad thing is conservatives have the ability to attain intelligence but refuse to properly research because it’s easier just to swallow the propoganda and multitudes of anti-Obama chain emails that are consistantly debunked on HOAX, Politifact, Factcheck, etc. You believe what you want to believe not what may be true because your arrogance and ego would be shattered to admit you embrace lies!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        David a deal says: I’d face any of you right wingers head to head on jeopardy or an IQ test.

        What’s the ails, Dave? Do you suffer from low self-esteem? Did mommy and daddy not pay you enough compliments? Do you feel like you have to prove something? What could that be; the fact that you are, insecure? If truly you were the “Intellectual giant” you claim to be, you certainly would not feel the need to prove it!

        Only those who lack, pretend they don’t…hugs and kisses!

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          First of all my mother who died 3 weeks ago of cancer was a wonderful supportive mother and dad taught me a lot of good life lessons. Second I just get so tired of right wingers calling us liberals stupid for our beliefs. Third we all have some insecurities, so what, that’s normal and I’m secure enough to admit I have insecurities.

          • truesoy

            David A Deal;

            What did I say about conservatives believing in things they don’t understand?
            There is the proof. They enjoy the fruits of liberalism while fighting for conservative causes. Go figure!.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://naver samurai

            Need to look at yourself in the mirror on that one. David’s mother died? Then he has my condolences. Unlike you, who just levied a personal attack and nothing in the way of comfort toward David. Classis 5th column strategy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • truesoy

            samurai;
            Only someone like you, would dare to consider ‘facts’ on issues about which you are wrong most of the time, as a personal attack.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

      • Kate8

        Jay – LOL. Methinks you hit a nerve!

        Liberals do have an overinflated opinion of their own intellect. What’s funny is that they don’t even know that they are full of useless and twisted hogwash. What with the mercury, fluoride and other various chemicals, and the garbage that passes for education today, it’s really not altogether their fault…

        Regurgitating data that is forcefed is not intelligence. It’s programming.

        Get a clue, you libs. Except that you are too brainwashed to see it.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, ain’t that the truth. Somehow they’ve developed(through propagana and programming)that the government is here to help…has their best interests at heart…like Mao, Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Hugo Chavez, Castro, the Bilderbergs, CFR, IMF, Federal Reserve, Goldman Sachs, AIG, Bernie Madoff, Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, George Soros, Malik Zulu Shabazz, Holder, Pelosi, Reid…If only pigs could fly. :)

      • http://naver samurai

        “Religion is of general and public concern and on its proper support depend, in great measure, the peace and good order of government, the safety and happiness of the people. By our form of government, the Christian religion is the established religion; and all sects and denomibations of Christians are place upon the same equal footing, and are equally entitled to protection in their religious liberty.”

        Chief Justice Samuel Chase

        This means that we should have school prayer, no gays, no bis, no perverted lifestyles, no arresting Christians for praying at a gay rally, or any other freakish things.

        “For may own part, I sincerely esteem it a system which without the Finger of God, never could have been suggested and agreed upon by such a diversity of interests.”

        Alexander Hamilton

        Looks like nc, truesoy, david deal, jopa, and many other 5th columners have been defeated once again. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves the ones I’ve mentioned out of the patriotic picture.

      • http://naver samurai

        Considering who I have to deal with on this cite, you and David Deal, I’ll just brush that off as another attempt to divert us from the facts at hand. Me wrong? Care to cite a factual source proving so? If you don’t have any on hand, then look them up or don’t answer my post. You don’t like me telling people the truth about our founding? Too bad! I shall cointinue to tell the truth and dispell the lies you and your ilk tell about our founding. David Deal said that Lincoln was a questionable Christian, but it is you and your ilk that are the questionable ones.

        ” …that these dead shall not have died in vain-that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom-and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.”

        Abraham Lincoln
        Gettysburg Address 1863

        “With malice towards none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gave us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation’s wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.”

        Lincoln’s 2nd Inaugural Address

        “I claim not to have controlled events but confess plainly that events have controlled me. Now at the end of three year’s struggle, the nation’s condition is not what either party or man devised oe expected. God alone can claim it.”

        Abraham Lincoln 1864
        The American Presidents, David C. Whitney, Copyright 1969 by Nelson Doubleday, Inc.
        Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 67-20646

        These are the facts and cannot be disputed by you low lifes. Though neither one of you are Christian, atheists are the ones that are pretending to be pious. Just like Hitler, who only used Christianity in public for showing to the people, you 2 only care about the dismantling of this country. You 2 are nothing more than traitors. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          Washington was an early supporter of religious toleration and freedom of religion. In 1775, he ordered that his troops not show anti-Catholic sentiments by burning the pope in effigy on Guy Fawkes Night.[46] When hiring workmen for Mount Vernon, he wrote to his agent, “If they be good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa, or Europe; they may be Mohammedans [Muslims], Jews, or Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists.”[21]
          Some biographers[50] hold the opinion that many of the American Founding Fathers (and especially Washington) believed that, as leaders of the nation, they should remain silent on questions of doctrine and denomination, to avoid creating unnecessary divisiveness within the nation; instead they should promote the virtues taught by religion in general.
          As an adult, Washington served as a member of the vestry (lay council) for his local parish. Office-holding qualifications at all levels—including the House of Burgesses, to which Washington was elected in 1758—required affiliation with the current state religion and an undertaking that one would neither express dissent nor do anything that did not conform to church doctrine. Wikipedia (Now this last part is important because this is why the founders added the clause that there SHALL BE NO RELIGIOUS TEST to hold public office because they disagreed with this church control and interference with government. Also Washington had a falling out with a preacher and refused to allow the clergy near him at his death bed.)

          • truesoy

            David A Deal;

            Although it is a very informative post and he/she should take note,
            I still believe this might be more than samurai can digest, really!.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        Well David, you are party right. First, Guy Fawkes Night.

        “As the Commander in Chief has been apprized of a design formed for the observance of that ridiculous and childish custom of burning the Effigy of the Pope. He cannot help expressing his surprise that there should be officers and soldiers in his army so void of common sense, as not to see the impropriety of such a step at this juncture; at a time when we are soliciting, and have really obtained, the friendship and alliance of the people of Canada, whom we ought to consider as Brethren embarked in the same cause. The defense of the general liberty of America: At such a juncture, and in such circumstances, to be insulting their religion, is so monsterous, as not to be suffered or excused; indeed instead of offering the most remote insult, it is our duty to address public thanks to these our Brethren, as to them we are so much indebted for every late happy success over the common enemy in Canada.”

        Second, as to his religion, are you sure about that? George Washington was a deeply religious man. No clergy near his death bed? Can’t find that anywhere, but he did die shortly after returning home in bad weather. Before dawn the next day.

        “Before the Revolutionary War he was Anglican-Church of England-which meant after the war, he was Episcopalian. So, he was clearly Christian. He was quite intensely religious, because even though he used the word Providence (The presence or Spirit of God), he constantly sees Providence as an active force in life, particularly in American life. I mean, every single victory in war he credits to Providence. The miracle (Which is an act from God) of the Constitutional Convention he credits to Providence. The creation of the federal government and the prosperity of the early republic, he credits to Providence. I was struck at how frequently in his letters he’s referring to Providence, and it’s Providence where there’s a sence of design and purpose, which sounds to me very much like religion.”

        http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington#Death

        Third, here is the lie about what a religious test is. It is not about being a certain denomination. It’s not about the country being run by a churc, mosque, temple, etc. Here is a short example of a religious test:

        Say you are elected to Congress or the Senate. You arrive and they escort you to a room. They sit you at a table with 3 others across from you at the same table. One of them pulls out a Bible and begins to ask you questions about various items from the Bible (10 Commandments, the Beattitudes, Resurrection, etc.). They expect you to give them the right answers to their questions, not thought or belief, but the one correct answer. If you don’t, you can’t swear in. Not saying you can’t be religious. In fact, here is a whole list of historical documents showing the state support of religion.

        http://www.americasfoundingfathers.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/historical-documents-showing-state-support-of-religion

        Let your little lib mind be awakened to just how wrong you are on the subject of religion. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • http://naver samurai

        Also, here is a site showing the religious philosophies of John Locke-Philosophical founder of America.

        http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=99156

        It’s about 8 pages long, but very informative. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • http://naver samurai

        Here is a letter from Benjamin Franklin rebuking Thomas Paine for his misguided atheism.

        http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=58

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • http://naver samurai

        No religious test? Are you sure about that? Look at this and see how Samuel Chase had to swear to being a Christian to be the Chief Justice of Maryland in 1794.

        http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=22348

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      David A Deal, if you are supposedly so smart why is it you are feeling threatened by people who you say are not so smart.
      So therefore, you just admitted how stupid you are.

      • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

        I’m far from threatened but I am insulted and not knowing me and what I know your comments are shallow and meaningless. On a regular basis when someone doesn’t know the answer to something they say go ask Dave because I am well read and researched. I have many interests including my Scrabble addiction and watching Jeopardy. I’m quite secure with my intellect and prefer the company of smarter people I can learn from but appreciate those who want to learn from me as well. My personal goal in life is to learn all I can for my own personal fulfillment. Knowledge is good. I treat others with respect until they prove they don’t deserve it through their actions or words.

      • Kate8

        Dave A Deal – Like I said, regurgitating someone else’s ideas and versions of “facts” is not intelligence. All that says is that you are good at memorizing data. It’s called programming.

        The true sign of intelligence is the ability to discern and think outside the box. You, my dear, are simply another drone who’s plugged in to the matrix, and you think that makes you smart.

        The fact that you are so sensitive about it shows that, on some level, you know what I’m saying is true.

        I know kids like you. You think you deserve to not have your feelings hurt… and need to be constantly told how special you are in order to feel good about yourself. I’m here to tell you that you are in for a very rude awakening here real soon.

  • Bob

    Pay $40,000 for a meal???heck i wouldnt even pay $40.00 to sleep with Sarah Jessicsa Parker,even if Michelle was the other person in the threesome.Time to wake up AMERICA,this clown is steadily stirring the pot for the immigrant vote…time to dump him NOW (and holder also) give us back OUR HOUSE,,,(the White House)

    • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

      OMG!!! That you would even CONTEMPLATE a price Bob! You a sick bast@rd! LOL!!!

    • JUKEBOX

      As bad as I need money, I would have to think long and hard before I would accept $40K to have dinner with these limousine liberals.

  • metoman

    1. Good chance after labor day, they don’t want to upset the proletarians day in the sun.

    2. They already have assumed control. Have you looked lately? TSA and the Police State, banker bailout, insurance company bailouts like AIG, GE bailout, Goldman Sachs, J.P./ Chase and Jamie Dimond bailout and now back to their same tricks, MF Global and Corzine bailout, Wells Fargo caught laundry $371B drug money and gets a fine and no one goes to JAIL, Drone’s over U.S, NDAA and ……….. Do you think this just happens? It to think it all started because an guy couldn’t make his HOUSE PAYMENT. No my friend it is all engineered by someone!

    3. BHO goes to war without congress voting on it. He gives a pass on gun running and murder in Mexico. He has a death list with no trials and now unilaterally says he will not enforce the immigration act. He most recently declare young illegal aliens can now stay. What’s next? Stay tuned!

    4. Peppered, why not, the FEMA camps are ready and he has integrated the civilian police force with the military. To paraphrases his campaign statement; “we need a civilian police force equal to and just as well funded as the military,” what did he mean by that? Funny no media ask that at the time. Can you say SS.

    5. You will soon regret the day that Ron Paul left the stage.

    6. Dennis Miller, who is he:) I’m staying with Ben.

    Comment: the problem is not only BHO, he is merely a puppet along with all administrations, both parties, legislatures and courts; they are brought and paid for by the NWO. They may or may not know it. Rest assured there is a file on all of them just like me and you. Take a look who attended the latest Bilderberg Meetings.Have a nice day.

    • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

      I just proposed to the woman I love last night metoman! THANX for the rosey outlook!!! Folks, think about this, EVERY one of the nations prophesied in the book of Ezekiel to come against the nation of Israel in the LATTER DAYS, are now on FIRE in the ME!!! Lybia, Tunesia, Egypt, Syria, etc., the ones where the smoke has somewhat settled are now under control of the same faction (The Muslim Brotherhood) that assassinated Anwar Sadat in 1981 And now Russia (Gog of Magog) is warning us and Israel that an attack on Damascus will be dealt with as an attack on Moscow?!! WHOH!!! PLEASE READ EZEKIEL CHAPTERS 37 thru 39! If that don’t put duckpimples on your goosebumps, you must be DEAD!!! JESUS IS COMIN’! GET READY!!!

      “We believe, given the changing political landscape in Egypt, that it is in the best interests of the United States to engage with all parties that are peaceful, and committed to non-violence, that intend to compete for the parliament and president.” – US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, concerning the engaging of talks with the Muslim Brotherhood as a legitimate contending party in Egyptian politics.

      “Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Quran is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.” – The motto of the Muslim Brotherhood, this is the same group who so prouldly proclaimed responsibility for the assassination of Anwar Sadat in 1981.

      “And for their saying, “Verily we have slain the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, an apostle of God.” Yet they slew him not, and they crucified him not, but they had only his likeness, and they who differed about him were in doubt concerning him: No sure knowledge had they about him, but followed only an opinion, and they did not really slay him, but God took him up to Himself. And God is mighty, wise!
      There shall not be one of the people of the Book but shall believe in Him before his death, and in the Day of Resurrection, He will be a witness against them.
      For the wickedness of certain Jews, and because they turn many from the way of God, We have forbidden them goodly viands which had been before allowed them.” – Sura 4:156-158
      Muslims claim that Christians and Jews are intolerant reguarding them. These verses from their own holy book plainly show that it is them who have been intolerant towards both religions from their very conception.

      • truesoy

        Tom W.

        Oh yes,Ezekiel…
        He is the one that had visions of God in a ‘flying machine’ while at the river…
        You don’t believe me, right? Read it again and draw yourself a picture of what is it that Ezekiel is describing; and then get back to us afterwards.
        And if anyone else reading my post do read Ezekiel, I’m sure they’ll arrive at the same conclusion I have.
        Ps.- I already know what some people will say. They’ll tell me that God can manifest Himself any way He wants, because He is God, and we are not to question Him.
        I know it because I’ve heard that answer countless of times already.

        Sincerely;
        Truesoy

      • JUKEBOX

        The Muslims still resent the way Abraham treated Hagar and Ishmael.

      • Karolyn

        I would beg to difffer, Tom. I’m no Koran experrt, but there is a place where the people of the “Book” (Bible) are to be accepted by Muslims. I came across something I printed off from PLD last year. I will post the link to that info when I find it.

      • Karolyn

        The poor woman!

      • Wumingren

        Karolyn, the only place “people of the Book” (Christians and Jews) have in an Islamist society is to live as second-class citizens, if at all. They must convert to Islam, pay the jizya (jizyah), or die. Indeed, people of the Book at least have the choice to live as slaves, while those who believe themselves superior and above the religious fray (atheists, Buddhists, Hindus, Animists, etc.) will find themselves with only two choices: convert to Islam or die. Learn something about Islam. Let me help you get started by providing some information about the jizya:

        In 630, the prophet of Islam first marched an army into Christian lands in what came to be known as the “Battle of Tabuk.” In fact, there was no battle because there was no opposing army. The residents were taken by surprise. Some were killed, and the survivors were forced to pay “protection” money to Muhammad. (Clearly abrogating the previous rule of “no compulsion in religion” that contemporary apologists are so fond of repeating).

        Only eleven years after Muhammad’s death, his companions swept through North Africa, putting to the sword those who would not submit to Islamic rule. In 643, Tripoli was conquered and the native Christian Berbers were forced to give their wives and children to the Muslims as slaves to satisfy the jizya.

        This lucrative extortion racket was practiced down through the centuries and was a part of the brutal Ottoman rule over Christians, Jews and others. The Serbs of Europe were particularly hard hit and often had to hand over their children to satisfy the collector. The children were then converted to Islam and trained as Jihad warriors for use in foreign campaigns (the so-called Janissaries).

        In India, well into the 17th century, Muslim tax collectors would also take the wives and children of impoverished Hindus and sell them into slavery for the jizya requirement. The only way for many to avoid losing their families was to convert to Islam. This tremendous discrimination is how Islam made inroads into populations that wanted nothing to do with it.

        Technically, there is no such thing in Islam as an innocent non-Muslim, which makes those ballyhooed condemnations of “terror against innocent people” even more useless. There is a basis for protecting the “People of the Book” (originally Jews and Christians, but later extended to Hindus when Muslim leaders realized that killing them was not as profitable as taxing them). These would be those who place themselves completely under the rule of Muslims, relinquishing all rights and agreeing to finance the Muslim expansion. Unfortunately, even this has not been enough to spare religious minorities from extreme persecution and massacre.

        Traditionally the collection of the jizya occurs at a ceremony that is designed to emphasize the subordinate status of the non-Muslim, where the subject is often struck in a humiliating fashion. M.A. Khan recounts that some Islamic clerics encouraged tax collectors to spit into the mouths of Hindu dhimmis during the process. He also quotes the popular Sufi teacher, Shaykh Ahmad Sirhindi:
        “The honor of Islam lies in insulting the unbelief and the unbelievers (kafirs). One who respects kafirs dishonors Muslims… The real purpose of levying the Jizya on them is to humiliate them… [and] they remain terrified and trembling.” Islamic Jihad
        The Qur’an makes it clear that the collection of jizya is is the ideal relationship between Muslims and non-Muslims. The verse mandating this (9:5) occurs much later than the verse stating that there is “no compulsion in religion” (2:256), meaning that it takes precedence and abrogates what came before. Therefore, Islamic purists such as Hamas and the Taliban wish to reinstate the jizya.

        Contemporary Muslim apologists rely greatly on the earlier “no compulsion in religion” verse when attempting to portray Islam as peaceful, and are thus reluctant to admit that the jizya is a penalty for not being Muslim. They usually fall back on claiming that the jizya is merely a tax paid to the government – glossing over the fact that this “tax” was imposed on the basis of religious status and was nearly always a much greater burden than that required of Muslim citizens. The interesting thing about this rhetorical strategy is that it directly contradicts any pretense that Islam is merely a religion and not a political system.

        P.S. You have heard of Arab slave traders, have you not? It is popular to condemn whites for having owned slaves in the past, yet overlooked are the blacks who also owned slaves and, more importantly, the Arabs who captured free people to sell them as slaves. It is exeeding odd that American blacks embrace Islam, the very theorcratic system that enslaved them to begin with, even while Christian principles drove slavery to ruin. Yet, it can be safely expected that slavery will once again emerge as the underpinning to Islamist economies in the world. These are just some of the reasons I oppose Islam.

      • Karolyn

        Wumingren- One still cannot paint everyone in a society with a broad brush. That’s like saying all Christians are like Terry Jones. I hearad an interview last year with a journalist who had been in the mideast for something like 15 years. I wish I could remember the name of her book, but, anyway, it is about the segment of Muslims, primarily young, who are breaking away from tradition and want to be more like westerners. Apparently, there are quite a few of them. There will always be extremists in any camp, but you can’t judge a whole people by their standards.

        • Wumingren

          And yet every major Christian organization condemns the murder of abortion doctors, while we hear nothing from major Islamic organizations to condemn Islamic terrorism. Of course, part of that might be that they fear being beheaded by the religion of peace, while Christians have no fear of being targeted for criticizing the murder of abortion doctors. What broad brush? I paint the entire Islamic community cowards, even if they are not all terrorists. And, these cowards would surely accept the fruits of Islamic victories over all infidels, what with the ends justifying the means. Liberals are good for embracing that ends justifying the means philosophy wherever it is applied. No principle can stand in the way of the desired, yet wholly undesirable outcome.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        No Broomhilda it says that if you can’t convert them to KILL them!

        http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm

        Your ONLY field of expertice is libtard propaganda ya old crone!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        LOL! Touche’ Karlolyn!!! As far as the mis-spelling of your name, you mean you don’t get it?! Karlolyn, Karl Marx, duhhh! Darn old girl, I’m blonde but not that blonde! LOL!!! Yeah, I’m still pretty much in shock! I’d pretty much accepted the fact that I was goin’ to die with a perfect track record! LOL!!! No in all seriousness I don’t believe that either gender is completely whole until they find their perfect soul mate! I do understand your skepticisim Karlolyn but even a blind hog’ll stumble into deep slop every now and again! LOL!!! I didn’t even need my cane! But that’s how God works sometimes!!!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Tom W., many blessings to you and your beloved.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        Thank and BLESS you Nadzieja!

  • Chester

    Metoiman, your name certainly fits, Anything from any conservative’s mouth, you are an automatic “ME TOO.” As far as Obama starting any wars without congressional approval, exactly what WARS are you speaking of? I have heard of some aid here and there, but NO boots on the ground, and no serious air support for anything. Unless, of course, you believe that supporting anything you don’t personally think should be supported is involving us in a WAR?

    • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

      And your name surely fits you too there Chester, seein’s that O is like you libtard’s Matt Dillon or something! LOL!!!

      “Yesh shur Mr. Obama, YESH SHUR!”

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        Opps! I forgot the “Hee, hee!”, LOL!!!

      • truesoy

        Tom W.

        …but you still haven’t say what ‘wars’ Obama started. Could you please tell us.
        was it star wars? no, it can’t be; that was a movie, really it is a movie, believe me, please.
        Ps.- we have to be careful when joking because conservatives believe anything bad about Obama. That’s is why they call themselves conservatives, I guess.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        I’ve never accused the man of starting any war truesoy, but he did come in on a platform of peace, did he not?!! All that hope and change BS!!! Instead of ending the Bush policies that he promised, he doubled down! Especially with the chicken-sh!t use of drones to carry out his hit list assassinations!

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          Chicken (expletive deleted) use of drones? So you’d rather see the old fashion gunslinger shootem’ up where our troops die, is that it? And I believe we are essentially out of Iraq and trying to fast track our exit from that mythical being forsaken HELL hole Afghanistan where the Russians too wasted a decade and a ton of money which exacerbated their downfall. AND as far as change the obstructionist Rethuglicans have denied Obama any progress.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        truesoy says: …but you still haven’t say what ‘wars’ Obama started.

        Whatever his preferences as a candidate, Barack Obama has significantly widened his predecessor’s global war on terrorism, even if he’s no longer calling it that.

        The May 25 attack in Yemen’s Marib Province offered a glimpse of the Obama administration’s shadow war against Al Qaeda and its allies.

        In roughly a dozen countries — from the deserts of North Africa, to the mountains of Pakistan, to former Soviet republics crippled by ethnic and religious strife — the United States has significantly increased military and intelligence operations, pursuing the enemy using robotic drones and commando teams, paying contractors to spy and training local operatives to chase terrorists.

        The White House has intensified the Central Intelligence Agency’s drone missile campaign in Pakistan, approved raids against Qaeda operatives in Somalia and launched clandestine operations from Kenya.

        The administration has worked with European allies to dismantle terrorist groups in North Africa, efforts that include a recent French strike in Algeria. And the Pentagon tapped a network of private contractors to gather intelligence about things like militant hide-outs in Pakistan and the location of an American soldier currently in Taliban hands.

        While the stealth war began in the Bush administration, it has expanded under President Obama, who rose to prominence in part for his early opposition to the invasion of Iraq.

        Virtually none of the newly aggressive steps undertaken by the United States government have been publicly acknowledged. In contrast with the troop buildup in Afghanistan, which came after months of robust debate, for example, the American military campaign in Yemen began without notice in December and has never been officially confirmed.

        Obama administration officials point to the benefits of bringing the fight against Al Qaeda and other militants into the shadows.

        Afghanistan and Iraq, they said, have sobered American politicians and voters about the staggering costs of big wars that topple governments, require years of occupation and can be a catalyst for further radicalization throughout the Muslim world.

        Instead of “the hammer,” in the words of John O. Brennan, President Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser, America will rely on the “scalpel.”

        In a speech in May, Mr. Brennan, an architect of the White House strategy, used this analogy while pledging a “multigenerational” campaign against Al Qaeda and its extremist affiliates.

        None of this is by any means shocking, unless you believed that Obama was a secret pacifist who wanted to end the war on Islamic extremists.

        Instead, we’ve seen what we virtually always see: A continuity, with only nuanced differences, in America’s foreign and national security policies with a transition in administrations.

        Whatever their predilections as civilians, those who assume the presidency are thrust into the same role, get advice from the same bureaucracies, and face the same global realities.

    • alex

      maybe you should check out what we are doing in north africa and the middle east even Australia

    • Ted Crawford

      Libya and Uganda for two !

      • truesoy

        Ted Crawford;

        Lybia and Uganda?
        Ted, you need to ‘brush-up on current events.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Truesoy, you may have bits of information that you have gathered like a dog gathering fleas, but there is no intelligence to all of this. You show yourself so childish by preening and strutting as if to say Mommy, Mommy, I say I am smart.
        There is wisdom to Conservative Individuals but there is nothing wise about Collectivists like yourself.

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          truesoy- feel assured that you contribute much positive and accurate to the conversation unlike these simple minded, mean-spirited, haters. Don’t let the petty insults bring you down!

          • truesoy

            David A Deal;

            I appreciate the advice. Thanks.
            I often wondered why conservatives eat from the tree of lies, but refused the fruits from the other trees?
            I think one reason is that conservatives believe in things they don’t understand.
            Of course, there could be many other reasons, too.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

        • truesoy

          Nadzieja Batki;

          Conservatives have a problem.
          Their problem is NOT that they don’t know. Their problem is that they don’t know that they don’t know. And you proved exactly my point when you used the word conservative and wisdom in the same sentence.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        David, why live your life as a simple-minded, and mean-spirited-hater? Surely you can rise above that…

      • Kate8

        Jay – These libs are the new standard for intelligence. If we needed any proof that the commies have succeeded in America, they are it…

        The scary part is that they are the future, and the future is now.

        I’ll bet not one of them looked at that video I posted above. They so think they know it all.

        Heaven help us.

      • Ted Crawford

        truesoy
        How ” current ” do I need to be? The Libian involvement is over, that’s true, however the troops are still in Uganda. Do you intend that if he didn’t initiate something TODAY it dosen’t count ?

      • http://naver samurai

        Truesoy is being is normal less intelligent self again.

        “The problem with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but they know so much that isn’t so.”

        Ronald Reagan

        When are you going to awaken from this dream of yours and realize that you are just a very little person. Must be why your girlfriend left you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This doesn’t include you.

  • http://yahoo marla

    There has to be a way got rid Amrice of this bumbo dictator before ew are under islacic rule. We the people have to get rid of him or we won’t be Americans! that’s his lying ,sneaky,underhanded goal

    • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

      marla, the only fault I find in your comment is as if you believe that O is da MAN in charge, he’s NOTHING more than a puppet who was put in place so that EVERY time an objection to a policy that was being CRAMMED ( How long America?!) down our throats was voiced, THEY (The Puppetmasters) would be able to cry foul and play the race card!

  • Byron

    Byron: say’s anyone with abrain knows Obamma wants socialism so he can be a full DICTATOR.

    • Power To The People

      Yep…..he is half way there!

  • James Maxwell

    Sounds more like a homosexual rodeo than any thing else, they all trying to figure who
    will ride who first.

    • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

      A circle jerk in need of a pivot man! LOL!!!

      • Sirian

        LOL!!! Tom W. Go the Mongolian way, totally pivot-less. LOL!! :)

  • Karen Washington

    This is not funny. He need to find a job because this is not his experitise. Even though I am a democrat I still like a good joke but this is just not funny at all. Then why he looks like that.

    • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

      I’m not sure I understand Karen darlin’, WHAT’S not funny?! EVEN God is laughing!!!

      Psalm 2
      King James Version (KJV)

      1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
      2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,
      3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
      4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
      5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
      6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
      7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
      8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
      9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel.
      10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
      11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
      12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

      JESUS IS COMIN’! If you ain’t ready, you’d BETTER get ready!!!

      “The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.” – Proverbs 16:4 (KJV)

      • johnc

        amen

    • Sirian

      KW,
      But you would’ve found it hilarious if it would’ve been directed at a Republican, right? Typical, typical, typical. . .

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

      I totally agree on all points. I laughed at an Obama joke the other night on Leno cause it was just funny and not mean. And my vanity license plate reads OBAMA1. These right wingers just don’t get humor. They TRY to be mean and call it humor. Maher, Stewart and Colbert are funny as HELL and SO creative, plus you get TRUE, ACTUAL, REAL NEWS and learn things watching them. With the right wing they exaggerate, distort and outright LIE often times with a straight face knowing their audience will eat it up because they want to believe it SO badly. I had a woman send me one of the recent Obama slandering chain emails the other day and coincidentally I’d seen it while researching the previous day on FACTCHECK. I responded to her that roughly 1/3 was pure lies, 1/3 distorted or exaggerated and only 1/3 of the 20 points of the email had any merit whatsoever! Typical right wing propoganda used when the truth won’t help them. I would NEVER forward something unless I researched and knew it to have reasonable merit and accuracy. Of course being a liberal I embrace honesty and integrity above all else. Tell the truth and let the chips fall as they may.

      • Palin16

        Liberals have honesty and integrity? Such as:
        Bill Clinton “I did not have sexual relations with that woman. These allegations are FALSE!”
        Rod Blagojevich: “I’m not selling Obama’s Senate seat for effin nuthin’. This is effin golden”.
        John Edwards: “I’ll marry you darling, as soon as my wife hurries up and dies.”
        The Weinerman, D-NY : “Anyone wanta see my privates on Facebook? Don’t forget to LIKE
        Nancy Pigosi: “We have to sign the bill, so we can see what’s in it.”
        Lyndon B Johnson (to the Joint Chiefs): “Make me president, boys, and I’ll give you the best damn war you’ve ever seen.”
        Some integrity.

        • truesoy

          Palin16;

          Bill Clinton’s “I did not have sexual relations with that woman” did not caused any harm to the American people, unlike George Bush’s “weapons of mass destruction” that caused thousands of american deaths among others, plus getting us up to our ears in debt to the chinese. And not to mention facilitaing the creation of another ‘shiite’ country (Iraq) to unite forces with shiite Iran; all compliments of President Bush. Good going guys, and really smart too. With conservatives like you, who needs enemies?.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        OK truesoy, why don’t you tell us what ever happened to the yellow cake uranium that was sent to Canada from Iraq? Why don’t you tell us why many soldiers and marines coming back from Operation Desert Storm had Gulf War Syndrome? Many of the cases were do to being exposed to NBC agents. But alas! You didn’t have the nads to serve, so you don’t know anything about the subject. Thousands of dead? They are not mere statistics as you say, but are heroes. All of them are heroes. To say anything else is just plain Unamerican. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • truesoy

          samurai;
          I guess you are still living in the world of fairy tales the republican establishment created for you and the likes of you.
          yellow cake, really? why don’t you go ahead and tell us about it?

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        First, I was in Operation Desert Storm and know more about the condition of the troops that came back from there, you don’t know squat. Wher were you at? Going to the boys lockeroom at school with the latest addition of playgirl with you? Going to the bathrrom alone with it? Second, I will not do your homework for you. I’m the teacher and you are the student. Ergo, you do the homework. I can only give you an “F” for you never posting sources and facts. Opinion means nothing in this debate, only facts. Remember this about how people believed about the average person during the time of our Christian founding:

        “…Other nations had industrious, talented, and ambitious citizens, but the unique system created by the Constitution allowed every person to develop his or her God-given talents and abilities without being burdened by the heavy hand of arbitrary government…”

        Warren Burger
        Chief Justice of the Supreme Court

        It seems that it is you that is behind the 8 ball, not the patriots here or I. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          Now you’re making sexually slanderous remarks. WHAT the HELL is wrong with you? I’m 55 and have a girlfriend and two daughters. Liberals can post one factual source after another and your kind will dismiss them. You can’t debate with conservatives the have all the answers at least in their small minds. I would never slander someone’s sexuality let alone without knowing them. Sounds like you have some post tramatic stress and need counseling

          • http://naver samurai

            First of all David, I know the person in question since 2010. Though he goes by many different names on this site, its not hard to spot him. Second, as I have stated, he did not go to Operation Desert Storm like I did. He has no idea about what Gulf War Syndrome is or how it affected fellow soldiers. Some had incurable skin rashes, lung problems, digestive problems, etc. What’s the matter with me? Nothing. What’s the matter with you? You can dish it out, but you can’t take it? If you have no facts or sources, don’t even bother wasting my time, the both of you. I’ve trounced you 2 enough. Your facial features are starting to appear of the sould of my cochrans. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

            tounced you mean bullied, insulted and generally demeaned, YOU WIN if that’s what you need to feed your ego you small, insecure man! I will post a few documented fact and you can dismiss them as you will because you can’t accept that our forefathers were NOT religious fundamentalist bible thumpers but rather free thinking, wise men who worked hard to keep government from being corrupted by religion.

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

            Slavery was a contradictory issue in Jefferson’s life. Although he was an advocate for individual liberty and at one point promoted a plan for gradual emancipation of slaves in America, he owned slaves throughout his life. Additionally, while he wrote in the Declaration of Independence that “all men are created equal,” he believed African Americans were biologically inferior to whites and thought the two races could not co-exist peacefully in freedom. Jefferson inherited some 175 slaves from his father and father-in-law and owned an estimated 600 slaves over the course of his life. He freed only a small number of them in his will; the majority were sold following his death. (THIS ALONE SHOWS JEFFERSON THOUGH ADMIRED BY US ALL WAS A FLAWED MAN)
            Notes on the State of Virginia, he clearly outlines the views which led him to play a leading role in the campaign to separate church and state and which culminated in the Statute of Virginia for Religious Freedom: “The rights of conscience we never submitted, we could not submit. We are answerable for them to our God. The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. … Reason and free enquiry are the only effectual agents against error.[2] Jefferson’s religious views became a major public issue during the bitter party conflict between Federalists and Republicans in the late 1790s when Jefferson was often accused of being an atheist. easily found on historic sites

          • truesoy

            David A Deal;

            There is a ‘right wing’ movement whose political ambitions are to win converts to their cause by attaching itself to anything ‘christian’ and then in turn, selectively attaching itself to any symbol or person from the past, e.g., pretending Thomas Jefferson was really a promoter/champion of the christian faith, and use it as a forward march call to convert our secular form of goverment to a theocracy.
            The churches are at the center of of their interest for what better way to further their agenda if not through the faithful already there.
            The political activism of the church is so nauseating it should be revolting even to the most faithful; but it won’t happen because christians want to believe, and they really do, for it is Gods work and therefore is ok, or so they think.
            The good people of the christian faith are being manipulated, and use for the benefit of the ‘right wing’ political agenda.
            David Barton is the leading figure in the subversion of christianity’s role in the life of Jefferson and in the founding of our country, and is totally distorting Jefferson’s views in the separation of church and State.
            For a religion that boasts so much about honesty and the fear of God, it sure leaves a lot to be desired.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • truesoy

            samurai;

            First of all, ‘yellow cake’ is for nukes, and Saddam had none, nor was he processing any. You should know that if you were there as you say.
            What he did have was remnants of poison gas and other biological agents, mostly compliments of the U.S. from the days when he was ‘the good guy’ and we gave it to him to fight the iranians, remember that?
            And neither were there any weapons of mass destruction this last time around. Ge it?

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

            All factual statements

      • Palin16

        TRUESOY
        You’re off the subject. The subject was integrity of the politicians I mentioned. Bill Clinton showed no integrity when he lied to the American people and to the Grand Jury. As such, he is one of only 2 US Presidents that have been impeached.

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          Though like Andrew Johnson, Clinton was not convicted. It was a matter that should have been between he and his wife and was a witch hunt effort to make Clinton look bad. In many ways it backfired because many people thought like me that it should not have gone that far.

      • Palin16

        “Hillary, I feel your pain.” the President said.
        “And you can sleep in the Lincoln bedroom from now on” Hillary replied.
        “I can’t, Hill. There’s a coupla Buddhist nuns using it, remember?”
        “Then sleep on the couch in the Oval office!” Hillary screamed.
        And then the President of the United States was made to sleep on the couch.

      • http://naver samurai

        Why do you constantly lie about our founding and kind of government we have? Why is it always the atheists that tell this bald faced lie on this site? Here is what our founders wanted from this Christian nation.

        http://www.americasfoundingfathers.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/the-original-intent-of-the-founders

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • truesoy

          samurai;
          …and again I’ll tell you that, if their intentions were to create a ‘christian governed nation’ they’d had said so in the Constitution; but not even GOD is mentioned in the Constitution.
          Please, use common sense, it doesn’t hurt!!!!

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        Here is an article where Thomas Paine criticizes the current public school science curriculum. Paris on January 16, 1797. Titled “The Study of God.” That’s right! He converted!

        http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=81

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • truesoy

          samurai;

          A) Thomas Paine never denied the existance of a God.
          B) Thomas Paine didn’t believe a word the Bible said. He denounced religion for what it was, and still is.
          C) Thomas pain was a promoter, among other things, for public education, and a minimum wage. These things he wrote about, but what’s not true is your assertion that he converted. He never denied God. What he denied though, is your interpretation of God and that never change.
          C) your reference to his speech, ‘the study of God’ I could only find it in politically inclined christian publications, e.g., ‘wallbuilders’. Can’t find it anywhere else, not even in the Paine library collection. Therefore, in the meantime unless you direct me to a credible site, I’ll have to take your source’s information with a grain of salt. Likewise, if I find it, I’ll be the first to tell you. Fair enough?.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

            I agree that I too have seen highly suspect references that can only be found on right wing websites and when you can find a reference on Factcheck, hoax, etc they are usually completely or partially debunked as purely false or highly distorted. I use only fact based sources with NO agenda but education not propoganda and I always do my own fact checking research before posting.

      • http://naver samurai

        I see tuesoy and David are at it again. Spreading lies on this site, but that is your right. I never said to be ruled by the church or anything you dimwits. Being founded a Christian nation means we were founded on Christian principles and you have not proved me wrong. You have given no facts or sources to prove a secular state. Anyone can tell you that American was the “Great Christian Experiment.” Also, since you claim to have rights under the Constitution, you are still wrong. Since you 2 bozos don’t believe in God, how could you have any rights in the Constitution? The first 10 Amendments, the Bill of Rigthts, are all God-given rights. You 2 are liars and traitors to this country.

        “The Declaration of Independence, which provides the philosophical base of our nation, states very clearly that our rights are granted to us by our Creator. The various rights noted in the Bill of Rights were not granted by government. The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to prevent the federal government from suspending any of those God-given rights, including the right to possess a weapon. Those who claim ‘Second Amendment Rights,’ fo instance, make a big mistake with such a statement. If the right is granted by the Second Amendment, meaning by governmen, it canbe taken away by government. If the right is granted by God, only he can take it away.”

        Bob Livingston
        http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/liberty/do-you-really-know-the-constitution

        If we were founded a secular state, then these rights could be taken away by the government at any time through legislation. Looks like you 2 traitors lose again. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Why did you listen to Ben C.? Is there somebody on this forum that is forcing you to come to this site?

    • Power To The People

      What the bleep did you just say…….

      • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

        I think she was quite clear. This guy has no talent other than whipping small minded haters into a frenzy!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        David a deal says: I think she was quite clear. This guy has no talent other than whipping small minded haters into a frenzy!

        Everybody’s a critic, Dave, especially the one’s with ZERO talent! You think you can do better? By all means, prove it. Show us what a talent you are…come on, don’t be shy.

  • aLjfa;ou

    Feed Parker a carrot???? LMAO. Thanks Ben, You’re the adult version of Saturday morning cartoons.

  • MNIce

    Children (this means you too, truesoy), you are taking yourselves too seriously, and you are getting out of line. You should review the Comment Policy and try to remember what good manners are. Just because the moderator is busy with other things doesn’t mean the rule is off-line.

    • Karolyn

      The rules don’t generally apply to conservatives, MNice, although we have lost a few through banning over the last two years. It takes a lot bor Bob L. to scold somebody.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        That is not true, Karolyn. Samurai has been reprimanded on several occasions, among other who are of the conservative-bent . So, to suggest that Mr. Livingston plays favourites, is to bring his character into question. This, of course, is typical character assassination that you progressives engage in, all the live-long-day! But this is not the least bit surprising, considering its coming from a bunch of low-lives, with ZERO character!!!

      • eddie47d

        Jay really needs to pay attention to what gets said by “conservatives” on this site and see who gives out the low blows without reprimand.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        I pay attention, eddie. You’re still here, and posting, aren’t you? As well as robert smith, who is clearly deranged, yet is still allowed the freedom to express his psychotic vitriol. Did i miss anyone? How about; Alex, Ron, Flashy, Eric, RichE, truesoy, dennisso… who’s maniacal rantings, and hateful speech are not fit for the sewer-system. As much as i hate to suffer their idiotic, and treasonous babble, i appreciate the fact that this is one of the few sites that allows a great deal of freedom of speech. The same cannot be said of left-wing blogs, as they are some of the worst decimators of freedom of speech. This is why i’m here, eddie. Why are you?

      • http://naver samurai

        I see Ed hasn’t been paying attention to the left side of the house. If I remember right, weren’t you put on probation because of your accusations directed at Bob Livingston? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Average Joe

    After reading all of the comments, I have determined that Ben Crystal is a Devout Catalyst ;)

  • Larry Taylor

    It’s the JEWS, stupid!

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    So truesoy, according to your above two posts, we have the Democrats to thank for a “one world order” to come, am i correct?

    As you stated; Liberals have been leading the way for centuries, but conservatives as usual are a speed bump in the highway of progress, and that tends to slow down the process a little, but to stop it.

    Humanity wouldn’t be where is at today if not for liberal resolve; and yes, we’ve dragged conservatives kicking and screeming along the way….This is from your second post. Yet,
    from your first you claim that the Republicans are steeped up to their necks in the globalization scheme. So which is it, truesoy? Who gets the credit for the implementation of the new/one world order, Democrats, or the Republicans?

    • Ted Crawford

      Liberals ? What Liberals ? I have been involved long enough to remember Liberals: ” A tax cut means higher family income and higher business profits and a balanced Federal Budget….Prosperity is the real way to finaly balance the Federal Budget ” John Kennedy, and ” You[should] not examine legislation in the light of the benifits it will convey if properly administered, but in light of the wrongs it would do and the harm it would cause if improperly administered ” Lyndon Johnson
      Back then Liberals and Conservatives were both attempting (for the greater part ) to improve this Nation! One, the Democrats, encouraged a Representative Constitutional Democracy. The other, Republicans, encouraged a Republic! The Liberal viewpoint has long since been usurped by the Progressive viewpoint. Attempting to further devolve our Government into a far left one!
      I surly wish that the Liberals could reassert themselves!

    • truesoy

      Jay;

      Well, lets see:
      Who are the exclusive services of the international bankers and Wall Street? Mostly republicans.
      Who wants to be President but eeps his money in overseas banks? the republican candidate, Mitt Romney.
      Who was it that always made references to the “New World Order? George Bush, republican.
      I think you get the picture. And no, I’m not denying that some democrats aren’t in the bandwagon as well, but I do say that republicans are the heavy hitters on this.
      Ps.- but it doesn’t matter what you or I think; sooner or later it is going to happen. It is inevitable.

      Sincerely,
      Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        Who are most of the wealthy here in America? Thats right! The libs. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • truesoy

          samurai;

          …and could you,please, give a logical explanation as to why do you need to fear God to be a ‘patriot’?.
          Or is that the old movie version of, for ‘God and Queen’, made into a new slogan? anyway, please explain.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        The fear of God is not just being affraid of what he can do to us, but it also means to honor and respect him. You know just like “Honor thy mother and thy father?” Respect him, believe him, love him, listen to him, and obey him. For it is God, and God alone, that determines which way this country should go, not men or your lord satan.

        “I see that we cannot better express ourselves than by humbly supplicating the Supreme Ruler of the World that the confusions that are and have been among the nations may be overruled by the promoting and speedily bringing in the holy and happy period when the kingdom’s of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ may be everywhere established, and the people willingly bow to the sceptre of Him who is the Prince of Peace.”

        Samuel Adams

        Fast Day Proclamation issued by Governor Samuel Adams, Massachusetts, March 20, 1797, in our possession; see also Samuel Adams, The Writings of Samuel Adams, Harry Alonzo Cushing, editor (New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1908), Vol. IV, p. 407, from his proclamation of March 20, 1797.

        It seems that you and your ilk are in retreat, so I’ll keep up the attack and sweep the field of you. This country is one of many under the rule of God and Jesus. To do Their Will, we prosper. To go against it, we suffer as we are now. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • JerryWheelerWroteThis..

    I don’t think I’ve even visited a neo-con site where the posters didn’t use expletives and juvenile names of their opponents as much as this one.. It’s fine to disagree, that’s called ‘debate’ but when you begin to use your pet insults, it shows just how uncivilized you people are.. No longer are we to disagree with each other, now we have to slap biased insults into the mix.. If someone disagrees with your opinion that’s doesn’t make them evil satan worshipers or commie liberal pukes.. It only makes them disagree..

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Jerry, spare us your holier-than-thou attitude! Left-wing blogs are some of the worst places for all-out, mud-slinging; not to mention unreasonable censorship. This blog site isn’t any different from any other, wether it be right or left.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Is someone forcing you to be on this forum and making you read the comments.
      You are the prime example of the little malevolent tyrants who pop up to silence anyone who disagrees with them.

      • Kate8

        Nadzieja – I still say they are paid trolls. No one who is as ignorant as these guys are would be posting on a site like this as a matter of interest. They are simply too uninformed, which is a sign of someone who has no interest in finding the truth.

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

      Well stated. It makes one wonder have our representatives set the example for our behavior, Like a Joe Wilson calling the President a lier, Dick Cheney flipping off a Senator and using an expletive, or a right wing journalist rudely interrupting and disrespecting the President?

      • Palin16

        Joe Wilson was exactly right, Obama lied. Now that he is giving out 800,000 work permits to illegals, they will now be included in Obamacare. BTW, Obama says they have to be here since they were 16, how does he propose to prove any of that, when the libs themselves refer to them as Undocumented. Get it? He’s only saying that to try to curry favor with Americans and no proof will ever be required.

      • Kate8

        David – Telling the truth is not mud slinging. Obama is a consummate liar. The only truth he’s told is his promise to “fundamentally change America”, that “electricity would necessarily skyrocket”, and stuff he’s been caught mumbling off the mike. He, himself, admitted that what he said was malarky…he called it “campaign rhetoric”. Which, BTW, was another off-mike comment.

        But then, libs abhor truth, especially when they don’t like it.

      • http://naver samurai

        WWWWWhhhhhaaaaahhhhh!

        http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Christie-Obama-preening-bystander/2012/05/12/id/439739?s=a

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Larry Taylor

        the first enemy you create is that it is the Jews’ fault.

        samurai says:
        June 18, 2012 at 8:14 pm
        I see the Nazi anti-semitic card has been played by Larry. Classic strategy of the 5th column. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        samurai: You need to get your definitions right. I am no more anti-Semitic than the next person. Semitic people include Arabs, and I am not in the least afraid the Arabs will try to monopolize our banks, schools, legal system, news and entertainment media, politics, Federal Reserve System, vice rackets etc., as the Zionists have already done.

        I’m also afraid you need to brush up on your definition of “fifth column.”

      • http://naver samurai

        Larry, if you read the book “The Landing”, then you will know what I mean by a 5th column. A 5th column is a group of spies, SFO’s, etc., that are sent into anoth nation to hamper any and all efforts to support a war against the nation in question or their allies. They do things like gather intelligence, sabotage, cause crime waves to have the national guard, reserves, or army to patrol the streets (keeping them from being deployed to the war in question), etc. That is what I’m talking about. Now you say the Zionists? Before you made a blanket statement about all Jews and did not specify the Zionists. We just had a South Bend resident die not too long ago that survived Auchwitz (sp). Why don’t you ask his family about these things. I guarantee they will let you know the Holocaust exsisted. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • Karolyn

      Jerry – I think it’s because so many of the posters here are extremists. I have been surfing a lot lately and really have not found the amount and level of vitriol found here. Of course, Bob Livingston is very tolerant, which might account for it. Maybe the other sites have stricter moderators?

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – You are right about the extremists. And they are all progressives.

      • Karolyn

        Kate – There are extremists in any camp.

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – Yes, but the issue was these threads.

        Please name those you consider extremists. I’m quite sure you include moi on your list.

        LOL. Perhaps you call “extemist” anyone who has a conservative opinion. “Moderates” don’t know what they stand for, and you don’t seem to think any Leftist opinion is extreme, no matter how radical.

        You are too funny. You try to appear to tow the middle of the road, while always siding with the extreme Left.

        I don’t know who you libs think you are fooling. You are as transparent as glass…

      • Karolyn

        You give yourself too much credit, Kate. I do not condone any extremist views. I do not believe you can find any reference to me condoning such views. Of course, I may understand them; but condone them, no. Yes, I do consider you an extremist as well as anyone who will not even consider that someone else might have something of value to add to the conversation. To me, people with closed minds are extremists. Those are the people who use the strongest language and use derogatory names for people. Don’t think that I do not take into consideration what you offer here, Kate, and do my own research. However, because of your extremism, I am cautious in believing what you have to say. I have respected your views over the past two years; but since you have become so radical, it is hard to take all that you have to say seriously.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Karolyn, i don’t think you understand the meaning of the word extremist. Kate8 is far from the proper definition of the term.

        Extremist: One who advocates or resorts to measures beyond the norm, especially in politics.

        It implies action(s), and not necessarily a point of view. However, progressive socialists will brand anyone who disagrees with them as extremists, clearly resorting to measures beyond the norm! Hope this helps…

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – To brand me as someone who does not consider both sides is simply inaccurate. I have been in the left camp. Since I actually have a brain, I ask questions, and eventually came to see through the idealistic vaneer.

        If the truth be told, I ask questions of all sides. I do not subscribe to anything that I can’t reconcile in my soul, regardless of who espouses such things. There are things which do not make sense to me, and, therefore, I do not accept them. I also look at everything, including things which may or may not be true, because somewhere behind the story there is another story. Where there is smoke, there’s fire, and so on.

        When we look long enough, earnestly enough, and courageously enough, eventually we come to the point where we have an inner barometer. If we are not afraid of the answer, life responds with boldness to our questions…

        You think anyone with conservative views is extreme. All I want is the truth, no matter what that is or where it comes from. Right is right and wrong is wrong, no matter how we try to spin it. In a world of illusion and delusion, truth is something not valued when it conflicts with an agenda or a cherished mindset.

        But I’m used to being ridiculed and marginalized, even by some on the right, because I prefer to follow my own inner guidance rather than just subscribe to someone else’s interpretation of how things are. I am secure enough in my relationship with …God… that I wholly trust in that, and I find that He does not fail me.

        You…and everyone…have the right to your own interpretation of life and reality. It is when it comes to impose on others, to force things on our lives which we find objectionable…that it becomes a problem.

        If we all would only follow the Golden Rule, life would work much better for everyone.

        Extremism is in the mind of the beholder. I suppose that just means that it is in conflict with the prevailing mindset or, at least, the mindset of the one passing judgment. Actual truth is not a valued commodity in today’s world of spin and manipulation.

        If the quest for nothing but the truth be extreme, then, I suppose, I must plead guilty.

      • Karolyn

        Jay – I get the point. Extremist is probably not the right word to use, and i can’t come up with another. What do you call somebody who has to resort to name-calling, ridicule and possibly volence to try and get their point across?

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Karolyn says: What do you call somebody who has to resort to name-calling, ridicule and possibly volence to try and get their point across?

        Not sure, Karolyn. But what do you call somebody who purposely makes false, malicious, and slanderous-statements, with the intent to injure, and ridicule in order to get their point across? A statement such as yours, most recent;

        Karolyn says: Jerry – I think it’s because so many of the posters here are extremists. I have been surfing a lot lately and really have not found the amount and level of vitriol found here. Of course, Bob Livingston is very tolerant, which might account for it. Maybe the other sites have stricter moderators?

        The only difference between your statement(s), Karolyn, and some of the statements from posters you alluded to is that, theirs being at times explicit, while yours being most of the time, implicit.

        So what is the difference between someone who is clear about the fact that they wish to insult, injure, and ridicule, or someone who couches their intent to insult, injure, and ridicule in a seemingly well-crafted-statement, however civil, where at first read it does not appear injurious, not to mention false, statement(s), such as yours, Karolyn? No difference, of course…so what be your point?

        I hate to say it, Karolyn, but at times your hypocrisy astounds me!!!

      • Kate8

        Excellent retort, Jay. I could never have said it so well.

        It’s always the same with libs. They can be as nasty as they wish, and it’s free speech. If we so much as hurt their feelings, it’s hate speech.

        They can just go ahead and stick it where the sun don’t shine. That ship’s done sailed, and they’re ranting on to themselves.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        You’re welcome, Kate8! I think we all have to keep in mind that there is a great deal at stake here, and we’re all playing for keeps. After all, the future of our country is hanging in the balance. Naturally, some will be very passionate about expressing their views, and convictions, and may at times be harsh, and that, from both camps; so be it!

        I’ve been insulted, ridiculed, lampooned, and lambasted, and i’ve responded in kind, big deal…! Yet, here i am, still banging away on the key-board; somehow i survived… go figure…lol!

  • chuckb

    david deal, you forgot one, how about barry and moochella disrespecting the flag at differ times, so what’s the worse? oh i get it, cheney and wilson aren’t bolsheviks

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

      No Cheny and Wilson are (expletive deleted) and I’ve never seen Obama’s spit or (expletive deleted) on the flag. Your side tries to twist something innocuous into far more than it is when it comes to Obama and it is all too obvious.

      • chuckb

        barry is a fraud, he has no idea of what he says or does, his mind is run by the teleprompter, a talking stick. of course you don’t have to blame him for his ignorance or lack of respect for the country or flag, blame the people who voted for him, there lies the problem. we apparently have a surplus of this mentality.

      • http://naver samurai

        You mean you don’t remember Michelle bin Laden saying, “All this for a damned flag?”
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • truesoy

          samurai;

          oh really, is that what she said? when and where did she say that?

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

        • truesoy

          samurai;
          I just noticed the full text of your previous responses, thereby
          i failed to give you a full answer.
          When she commenting about the proudest moment of her life…, she never said anything derrogatory abot the flag, and actually she did not say anuthing to the effect.
          Ps.- don’t believe anything Rush or G. Beck says.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        Truesoy is wrong again, but what else is new. Look at this and weep. You don’t need to be a lip reader to know what she is saying.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t7rkffBAwQ

        She said this at New York during a Flag Day ceremony at the 9/11 site. Need to keep up more on current events. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Palin16

        Michelle Obummer was campaigning here in Nevada yesterday. (Wasn’t she listening when Barry told the nation not once, but twice not “to blow a bunch of cash in Vegas”?) She says Barry deserves another term because look what he’s done for the gays and undocumented immigrants.

    • truesoy

      chuckb;

      Could you be more specific, please?
      You sound like such a ‘parrot’, maybe we should call you ‘Polly’ and give you a cracker too!
      (no offense intended neither to you, or Polly).

      Sincerely,
      Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        “For the first time in my life I’m finally proud of my country.”
        “All this for a damned flag?”

        Do these ring any bells, truesoy? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • truesoy

          samurai;

          ….and you know the within the context of her comment was relevancy to her life experience, and no in the manner you pretend and/or want it to be, for had you share in another person’s similar life experience you wouldn’t be so quick at twisting the meaning of what was said. But I know you know better, because I doubt you could otherwise be so dense.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        All this for a damned flag was an intentional statement and not part of the moment. Now I’m no psychiatrist, but we know she has no love for this country. Even you can’t be that dense to believe she does. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Palin16

        Samurai,
        Don’t forget Michelle Obummer also told the wife of the French President “living in the White House is hell”. Let us HOPE there will be CHANGE in November so Michelle won’t be living in hell anymore.

        • truesoy

          Palin16,

          There you go again. ‘Hell’ as an expression can be used on numerous occasions for a number of different things, ilke your ac breaking down in the middle of summer, and of course it would be hot as ‘hell’ in your house. Obviously you won’t consider your home a ‘hell’, but you get my point, right? I know you do because you are not stupid, I think.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        Your are correct about how to use the word hell truesoy, but you come up short on the meaning of her intention of the word’s usage. Saying living in a place is hell, could be comparing it to hades. We both know darned well she wasn’t talking about the summer time heat. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • truesoy

          samurai;

          …such an.assumptions only proves you need therapy.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        I see that wehave no facts or sources, so you result to the classic 5th column strategy of the personal attack. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This excludes you and David.

      • Palin16

        Did I also mention that for Michelle’s 44th birthday Barry bought her some $5,000.00 diamond earings, which she herself returned the next day for a pair of $12,000.00 earrings?

        • truesoy

          Palin16;

          …and how do you know? Is it written on your hand, by any chance?

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

  • johnc

    The NWO might be coming but so is the return Of Jesus. On a happy note for all you NWO people guess what God is gonna get ya….he has plan for you….see if you can buy your way into heaven all the money in the world is not enough to pay the price, I have been given by grace…too bad you don’t believe

  • Steve Lyons

    I think there is a donkey in Juarez missing his acting partner with Sarah in NY.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Of the central core of ideas from socialism and Marxism, none is more important than erecting a government to operate as a kind of default god.

    While this could seem an accidental effect of Marxism’s war against religion, a better informed explanation reveals the real purpose of leftism as waging the war against, and murder of God, Himself.

    After God is removed from the scene, imposition of a humanistic cult allows mankind to pursue all his desires unfettered.

    More importantly—it erases the history of man’s sins against God.

    This overwhelming need of unregenerate man was one of the key insights of Eric Voegelin in his epic Modernity Without Restraint: The Political Religions, The New Science of Politics, and Science, Politics, and Gnosticism.

    The fury against religion endemic in all leftist ideologies can only be understood as a Procrustean commitment to break and recast the fundamental order established in the farthest recesses of human history. On another level this struggle represents the battle between humanistic philosophy against revealed religion.

    Ultimately, given the spectacular, ghoulish and unprecedented failure of humanism to craft workable government as seen under communism, it is certain that man’s fate is at extreme risk.

    Therefore, the two essential worldviews of the modern era are posited against each other
    in this article—Marxism and its ilk versus the biblical view of the cosmos, against a backdrop of the classical worlds of Greece and Rome, where modernism takes its theory of government and man.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/47388

    • Ted Crawford

      Your thoughts were shared by the Founders ! ” We have no Government armed in power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by moraiity and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a religiois and moral people. It is inadaquate for the Government of any other ” John Adams
      ” We’ve staked the whole future of American civilization not upon the power of Government, far from it. We’ve staked the future of all our po;itcal institutions upon our capacity…to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God ” James Madison

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Indeed! But, we have moved so far from the “original” that these passages from Holly Scripture come to mind; “Disgrace is before ruin and pride of spirit before misfortune”, and, “Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.”

        When the drafters of the Declaration of Independence wrote, “We hold these truths to be self-evident,” they were writing of the kind of phaneros en autois (“evident in themselves”) truths the apostle Paul was writing of in Romans 1:19.

        As a matter of fact, in Romans 1:20, the words tois poiemasin nooumena kathoratai (“by means of things that are made, are understood, being clearly seen”) are the exact equivalent to “self-evident.” Paul uses both of these phrases in the context of what men know naturally by natural revelation, apart from the special revelation revealed in God’s Word.

        According to Paul, what can be known about God apart from the Bible is known by all men, because He causes them to know it. Therefore, all men are without excuse.

        But, although men know the truth, the Bible tells us they are bent on suppressing it in unrighteousness (cf. Romans 1:18).

        In other words, we can’t expect our opponents to be honest. If they have to lie about this nation being founded upon the principle that there is a “law above the law” (i.e., God’s law above man’s law), then they will lie.

        For example, during the bicentennial celebration of the U.S. Constitution in 1987, I was appalled when, watching the proceedings on television, I heard the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance with “under God” left out.

        This is made even more appalling when one considers that Thomas Jefferson, who a secularist would proudly call his own, is reported to have said: “The God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?”

        Doesn’t this sound like Jefferson thought the nation he was instrumental in founding ought to be a nation under God?

        Furthermore, as recently as 1952, in Zorach v. Clauson, U.S. Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas wrote, “We are a religious people whose institutions presuppose a Supreme Being.” If an extremely liberal Supreme Court justice can understand this, then why is it becoming so difficult for people to understand that ours is a nation that was founded by our forefathers to be under God?

        In truth, it would not be difficult at all if it were not for those who “suppress the truth in unrighteousness.”

        In Psalm 11:3, the question is asked, “If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?”

        Of course, when the foundations are destroyed, the righteous are made a prey of the wicked. Consequently, the very purpose of government is the protection of the righteous or law abiding. In other words, Government is ordained by God as a mechanical remedy against evil (cf. Romans 13:1-7).

        Thomas Jefferson clearly understood this principle, and so must we if we are to keep the “unalienable rights” endowed us by “our Creator.”

        Jesus Christ is sovereign of the universe. Consequently, His law is above all laws and all men everywhere are subject to His authority. Many earthly authorities have not understood this.

        Consequently, they have not heeded the wise counsel of the psalmist, who said: “Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, and you perish in the way” (Psalm 2:11,12).

        • truesoy

          Jay;

          That is a quote from President Adams’ letter, and it cost him his reelection.
          The reality is, contrary to what he wrote, that the U.S. was not found as a ‘religious nation, nor as a christian nation’, and neither is our Constitution. As a matter of fact, I challenge you to find the word ‘God’ anywhere in the Constitution
          It only takes common sense, if anything else, to understand that had the Founding Fathers wanted ‘religion’, or ‘christianity’ as the foundation for our nation they would had stated so in the Constitution. Come on, they included evereything else, even slavery; but neither God, nor religion was included.
          However, if your doubt still persists, read the Treaty of Tripoli and you’ll find there stated clear as daylight that the U.S. was not of a ‘christian government’. This traty was tatified by the 5th Congress in 1797, though it was written and agreed to by George Washington in the last year of his administration.
          And then there is that minor little thing about the separation of church and State in the Constitution.
          The challenge comes now in getting the religious misguided conservative to understand. And that ain’t easy.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

            You understand the intents of our founders unlike the bible thumpers. The early colonists were commiting some of the abuses they had fled Europe to escape from. Each colony had a strong preference for a particular different christian sect, be it methodist, lutheran or whatever and would tar and feather, run out of town or the territory or even hang what they viewed as heathens. The founding fathers wanted to attempt to make a more perfect union and in doing so realized religion had to be neutered so as not to corrupt our government as the catholic church had in Europe. At the forming of the Constitution the more pious were pushed to the back in it’s writing while those who had doubts about religion and were keenly aware of it’s dangerous influence went to great lengths to limit and separate yet protect all people to worship in private as they chose without presecution. the pledge of allegeance was actually written by a preacher in the 1890′s yet it did NOT include the words “under god,” NOR ” the United States of America”. It was written in hopes that ALL nations would recite it on their flag days as a world unifying pledge. It was in 1920 that the Boy Scouts introduced it and it was accepted in 1924 at the urging of the American Legion witht the words “United States of America” added. It was NOT until 1954 that the words “Under god” were added (in my opinion a violation of the separation of church and state intent of the founders) and it was added becasuse of Joe McCarthy and his commie witch hunt. That was a sad era in our history and McCarthy was a dangerous extremist who did not understand that this was a free nation where people could hold any views they desired without being labeled or attacked.

      • http://naver samurai

        Well said and truthfull Ted and Jay. I’m just surprised that the 5th column hasn’t jumped on these posts yet with their vile rhetoric. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • truesoy

        Ted Crawford;

        …and that cost him his re-election, for the United States was not conceived a a religious country, therefore the separation of church and State.
        And if in doubt, refer to the Treaty of Tripoli (1797) where it is explicit in the declaration that we are not of a christian government.

        Sincerely,
        Truesoy

        • http://naver samurai

          First, why do you lie about our Christian founding? The words separation, church, and state DO NOT APPEAR ANYWHERE IN THE FIRST AMENDMENT SO STOP LYING! Second, the Treaty of Tripoli you are referring to was signed in 1797. After our war with the muslims, a new one was written under Jefferson and Article 11 was removed from the new treaty. Compare the 2 treaties and stop your atheistic nonsense about this country and quit trying to rewrite our history. I dare you to respond with facts and sources. In fact, here is a source I have that proves you wrong, in which you are always wrong.

          http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=105214

          “It is impossible for the man of pious reflection not to perceive the Finger of the Almighty Hand, which has been so frequently and signally extended to our relief in the critical stages of the revolution.”

          James Madison

          This is what he thought upon reflecting on the writing of the Constitution. You are a liar and just neeeeed to make that popping sound. Remember 무신론자놈아, that there are 2 Treatys of Tripoli. Don’t respond unless you wish to post facts and sources. Not lies, innuendo, rhetoric, and hate towards our founding. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          P.S. You need to have both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.
          하나님하고 나라를 위해서! You lose again.

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

            For every quote you throw up from a founder in support of religion I can find one from that same person criticizing or denying god or religion. Often the quotes you cite are there more public musings which were probably an attempt to curry favor but in their private writings they showed far different beliefs. Jefferson for example had all but abandoned christianity before an Englishman Joseph Priestly perhaps changerd his mind. The first several Presidents claimed to be deists meaning a belief in god but chose NO formal affiliation to a particular church. They were open minded and respectful of others beliefs and had a good understanding of the private aspects of their beliefs. Jefferson was proclaimed a “Howing Atheist” in the newspaper by his opponents, and Lincoln’s faith was questioned by opponents and his response was to say his beliefs should be a private matter. The Separation of church and state comment was in a letter Jefferson wrote to explain what a particular part of our constituion was intended to mean.

          • truesoy

            David A Deal;

            Please, understand that, wisdom and reason are an alien concept to the conservative christian.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • truesoy

            samurai;

            The other treat would have been a treat of peace, and nothing about the U.S. being a christian nation, nor anything similar was there, and that is fact.
            Again, had the founders had any religious intentions they would have so stated in the Constitution.
            But you can not even find the word God in the Constitution. What more prove do you need?
            Remember that just because you want it to be doesn’t make it true.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

      • http://naver samurai

        David and truesoy, why don’t you all just give up on your lies and trying to pass off this rewriting of our history is true. Since neither of you have posted any facts or sources, your attempts at a fruitful debate fall flat on its face, every time. But alas! It seems that a real historian has to correct you and rebuke you here about the lies you have told. Truesoy says that God is not found in our Constitution, nor the writing of it Christian in any way, shape, or form. This is far from the truth. Here you and David say there is no God, but yet you say you have the same God given rights as are written in the first 10 Amendments to the Constitution. You can’t have these rights if there is no God. Second, though the name of God is not in the Constitution, there is a reference to him in the Preamble of the Constitution.

        “…secure the Blessings of liberty…”

        Preamble of the U.S. Constitution

        If our liberty is a blessing, there must be a blesser. We human cannot accomplish such things as it takes a Supreme Being, GOD, to do this. It is a reference back to the Declaration of Independence which say our rights are “…..endowed by their Creator…” Endowed means blessed and Creator is anoth name for God. Liberty is also a blessing from God. Ergo, you 5th columners attempt at debate falls flat on its face. David also shows his ignorance by stating the questioning of the faiths of John Adams and Abraham Lincoln. John Adams was one of the most religious of our founders. Jefferson’s faith was also questioned, but the questioned were laid to rest after many of his documents, letters, journals, and actions proved, with no shadow of a doubt, that he was Christian. Also, there is also a reference to Jesus in the Constitution.

        “Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of Our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth in Witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,

        George Washington
        President and deputy from Virginia

        Article VII
        U.S. Constitution

        It is so easy to defeat you 5th columers. I’ve been on this cit for 3 years and you all always say the same ignorant statements, even after being proven wrong. Where would you find these statements?

        Nature and nature’s God
        Endowed by their Creator
        Appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World
        Firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence

        Nothing les than the 1st, 2nd, and last paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence. It really looks like you all need to study more than you have. Oh, I almost forgot to say something to David about Abraham Lincoln. Just google his second inaugural address and see how many times he mentions God in it. Also, he mentioned God’s name in the Gettysburg Address. Sheesh! If you can’t read these things and learn something, then there is no hope for you two 5th columners. Yes, your kind seeks to destroy this country from the inside. Truesoy said before that the OWO is coming and we should just accept it. Sorry dude, but only God knows when that will be. For you to make a statement like that shows just how unpatriotic and satanic you really are. Don’t answer this post unless your have facts and credible sources to back up what you are saying, unless you want to hear me laughing. I invite you to try. One more question for you 2 before I go, OK? What proof and evidence can you provide that shows atheism to be accurate and correct? If you say anything but nothing, then you are lying. But alas! I know you will try, as satan won’t go away without a fight. Ha, ha, ha, ha! I laugh at your ignorance. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. Before your claim the Treaty of Tripoli of 1797, remember the post I gave you, how the second one under Jefferson did not include the overused sentence you always present, and also remember this from another treaty:

        “In the presence of the most Holy, undivided Trinity”

        Treaty of Paris 1783

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. That does not include you and your ilk. 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          We are all born Atheists and family and GEOGRAPHY are the main factors in our limited choices of faith. If you had been born in IRAN you’d be a Muslim and I’d still be an Atheist. The difference is I’d be dead or have fled to America where there is religious freedom because of our founding fathers. It’s a fact that Jefferson was called a howling atheist in the newspapers and there were reasons for that and the book, “The Invention of Air” about Joseph Priestly clearly states Priestly’s influence on Jefferson’s wavering faith. If one studies how religion has arisen throughout the ages one understands it is created by superstitious men with NO scientific knowledge. I put my faith in science. If you look up the time magazine article entitled, “The GOD Gene” it explains how people’s brains are wired different from birth and some people are wired to become religious zealots and others Atheists. They did brain scans while people prayed, meditated, etc and saw that in those who leaned toward belief a portion of the brain lit up that did not in others. It was a kind of ability for self hypnosis. All governments that have been corrupted by the influence and greed of religion have oppressed their people and free thought. The only reson in the past that many followed religion was peer pressure of those in power and the threat of death for being a heretic. This is true in the middle east yet. As countries attain true freedom people gravitate away from religion because on it’s face it has little merit and by having a choice people naturally depart from superstitious antiquated beliefs. This is true here and in Europe. If there were one true god, goddess, and religion then why did so many evolve through the ages because of simple geography forcing great civilizations to from independently of one another with completely unique dogmas. If you evolved on a pacific island you likely worshipped some volcano god and offered virgin sacrifices to it because you did not know the scientific reqasons behind plate tectonics. I do not begrudge those who want to believe what they want to believe, but I do take offense at people trying to legislate their narrow beliefs on me and insulting me vigorously because I embrace modern science. It is partly this right wing rejection of science that influences some of our kids in school for not fairing as well in science as those in most other civilized countries. and again simple searches can yield many instances of writings of early American leaders questioning religion and it’s merits especially their private letters like those between Jefferson and Adams and Jefferson and people in Europe he confided in. Religion should be a far more private matter than it is but some people seem HELL bent on shoving their dogma in your face. Romney has himself been wise in avoiding this because if you know the basics of Mormonism it has some ODD beliefs and origins.

          • http://naver samurai

            Way too much kool aid. We are all born atheists? Care to cite a source that would back up that statement. Remember, when everyone is born, God puts into everyone the feeling or belief that there is something or someone higher than us. This has been proven by psychologists. Science is a good thing, but it only deals with the physical realm of what we can see, touch, taste, hear, and smell. Faith deals with believing in something that is unseen, can’t hear, can’t smell, can’t taste, and can’t touch. Conservatives denounce science? That’s a lie. What isn’t a lie is when your ilk tries to replace God and Jesus with scientific beliefs. BTW, why would you want to believe in something that 90% of everything that was made or discovered was by Christians? All my sources and postings are factual in nature and you cannot prove them wrong. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.
            하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

            Proven by psychologists! Say WHAT? If a baby is born and it has NO exposure to religion it will never embrace your god or Jesus because it has NO knowledge of them. I don’t lie, you just don’t agree with my truths and to disagree is ok if done in a civilized manner but to call me a liar is just sad. I personally know many conservatives who mock science when it contradicts what they want to believe but virtually never do I see such things from liberals or Independents. I work with a Christian fundamentalist who still believes the universe is 6,000 years old and that god just put fossils in the rocks and that eons of erosion did not create the grand canyon. I’m surprized he doesn’t believe the earth is the center of our solar system and the universe. He believes you must speak in tongues before you have fully accepted the lord to be allowed to reach heaven. Copernicus and Galileo were imprisoned by the conservative church for proclaiming scientific truth the church did no want to accept for it would make them fools for admitting their mistakes. The catholic church has even REDEFINED the begining of life 3 times. First it said life began when the child took the first breath of life outside the mother. Then centuries later it altered that to the moment of quickening when the child could be felt moving, then later to the point when you could hear the heart beat, then finally within the last 200 years to the point of conception. Religion is not infallible for it was created by man to control men and especially women, and money because money is power. Why are the Muslims, Buddhists, Shintos, Confusionists, Jews, Mormons or the innumerable gods and goddesses prior to christianity less valid? I accept this life is all that I have and intend to live it as fully as possible while trying to leave the world a better place for those who remain. With as little pollution and deforestation and respecting all living creatures for in my humbleness I realize I was blessed by nature (NOT god) to have evolved into a human with a thumb and a larger developed brain over millions of years.

      • http://naver samurai

        Ooops! I forgot to mention that in the Year of our Lord means the year after the birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      • http://naver samurai

        David and truesoy, I’ll not answer thes last posts of yours, for they are nothing but lies, rhetoric, innuendo, hate towards this country’s founding, and just plain wrong. Do not answer any of my posts, unless you post real facts (no atheist nonsense) and credible sources. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot/
        하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

  • chuckb

    ted, jay, for the last forty years the education system has promoted the progressive (communist orientated) movement, turned their minds from principled religion, to worshipping a secularist, multicultured, and godless society. the parents of these people were the same ones who turned against the country in the sixties. this is the offspring that has brought about the likes of barry soetoro, the clintons and other people detrimental to the constitution of this country, and much more the respect and honoring of god.
    you need to look no farther than the people who exited russia who brought this movement to our shores. they infiltrated every aspect of of our government, media, banking,education and hollywood. anyone who defies them is driven from office and branded a bigot and racist. mighty powerful words, to be used against people who are afraid to be branded as such.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      In full agreement, chuckb, well stated!

  • Kate8

    What is frustrating during these campaign cycles is that none of the REAL issues are mentioned, much less addressed. We vote strictly according to party, and that is how the elites have planned it. One side sells us out, the other side wins, then that side sells us out, and it’s back and forth…

    If anyone really thinks Romney will be any different from Obama…well, some things just never change for most folks. They just keep doing the same things over and over…you know the drill.

    And the truth is, it doesn’t really matter what we think. The will of the people continues to be trampled, no matter who gets in.

    Is either of these yahoos talking about things we care about? They aren’t listenting to us at all. In fact, as Obama recently said to a reporter, “I didn’t ask for an argument!” That sums up his attitude, and the attitude of Congress and the SCOTUS, as well.

    As long as we dutifully march to the polls and vote for the options as set forth by the elite, casting ballots by party line, we will continue to be brushed aside. In fact, I have serious doubts whether we will ever even have another choice…

    http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom216.htm – What to do when you don’t like any candidate…

    • Karolyn

      Sounds like a good idea to me. Alll we need is somebody with the gumption to starrt a campaign. However, seeing how people are, I don’t know if it would fly, although with a really big campaign backed by some big money, it might work. Unfortunately, all the people with the big money are only interested in business as usual.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      That any country as diverse as the U.S. should have so few choices in politics stands as an indicator that something is indeed amiss with our political system. Which of two fungible fakirs takes office is of increasing irrelevance to the daily issues faced by the public; the distance between the formal 2 party system (the ivory-tower theory) and the polity (the grassroots reality) is reflected in dismal voter turnouts, year after year.

      “The two real political parties in America are the Winners and the Losers. The people don’t acknowledge this. They claim membership in two imaginary parties, the Republicans and the Democrats, instead.”  — Kurt Vonnegut

      And yet, with every election cycle, the Demo-gogues and Country-Clubicans proceed to trade issues and insults in a farcical attempt to maintain some modicum of differentiation between themselves. As though it isn’t bad enough we have to consecrate their coercion with our votes, they insult our intelligence with media side shows, artificial issues, vacuous platitudes and thought-terminating cliches. But after years and years of the same superficial issues being rehashed ad nauseum, the lugubrious cavalcade of hystrionics is, when taken in retrospect, a political pantomime completely choreographed for our ‘voting pleasure.’

      The Republicans and Democrats could be argued to cast themselves as the ‘Old Testament Party’ and the ‘New Testament Party.’ Republicans: “Follow these rules or be punished.” Democrats: “Feed the poor and forgive all sins.” — Bruce Rodgers

      Just as with the attempts to rectify the Ptolemaic system with epicycles, previous ‘reforms’ have not mitigated the crisis of the U.S. republic’s winner-take-all system. Past attempts to ‘fix’ the U.S. system with reforms (such as referendum and recall) have only dabbled at the fringes of the chronic simmering crisis.

      When I speak of crisis, I mean a chronic syndrome that threatens at any moment to implode from the gravity of it’s internal contradictions.

      The U.S. voting system of winner-take-all 2-party personality-driven elections suffers from the suffocating non-choice of two main parties. The problems could ultimately topple the system, but probably won’t because of the vice lock the Democrats and Republicans have on the country.

      People are generally dissatisfied with a dichotomy-based system that pretends to be about freedom of choice; politically we have the choice of two evils, the result being that there’s not really any choice, only a ultimatum from a duopoly, a framed election. I think the polity senses this, and they simple display their innate – if poorly expressed – skepticism by not voting.

      “A citizen of America will cross the ocean to fight for democracy, but won’t  cross the street to vote in a national election.” Bill Vaughan

      Hidden behind the din of media pundits speculating on the sexual improprieties of the President, the reality of continued empire-building remains the fundamental underpinning political force driving the republic.

      The CIA continues to ally itself with foreign criminal enterprises as a means to gain political power abroad, regardless of whether it requires a systematic quid-pro-quo protection of narcotic pipelines that comes to resemble narco-colonialism and afflicts our cities with cheaper and cheaper drugs.

      The Pentagon now practices urban warfare in our cities, the regular police forces are becoming increasingly militarized, while some rural populations verge on some kind of low-intensity rebellion.

      Behind the scenes, the empire continues about the business of expanding its scope of power. NAFTA and GATT were rammed past the normal political process, where concerned environmental and labor groups were given less than 48 hours prior to automatic ratification to comment on the until-then secret pact.

      “Criminals and a free people have a lot of “wants” in common; as a result, governments ALWAYS regard a free people as criminal.” – UNKNOWN

      To get a driver’s license, your thumbprint is now required, catalogued in each State’s DMV, and shared nationwide. In the workplace, pissing in cups proves loyalty to a fascist/authoritarian mind-set, and will soon be required for driver’s licenses.

      Under forfeiture laws instituted under the aegis of the War on Drugs, official confiscations of property and money have increased, abrogating the Constitutional protections against such seizures. A large number of traffic arrests which involve confiscation of monetary assets are never brought to trial. Some notorious cases include the confiscation of money and property of innocent citizens, including the planting of false evidence by police (a fully-documented incident in Louisiana).

      Amongst countless others, there are 2 notable cases, involving confiscation of assets: A retired physician transferred a million dollars from one banking institution to another, unaware that his bank had neglected the customary courtesy of notifying the government of asset transfers greater than $10,000 – the local police seized his assets, and after years of costly litigation, he was able to recoup two-thirds of his savings.

      Another case involved an African-American businessman traveling to a vendor’s business. He was carrying a few thousand dollars in U.S. currency – the entirety of his savings – so he could receive a cash discount from the vendor. The police made the traffic arrest strictly on the basis of racist ‘drug courier profiles,’ confiscating all of his money despite the fact they found no evidence of drug trafficking. He was ultimately able to recoup his assets (without interest), but only after a large portion went to his personal lawyer’s fees.

      “(American) Football is a mistake. It combines the two worst elements of American life. Violence and committee meetings.” – George Will, commenting on U.S. football

      After scandalous revelations of attempts to frame Malcolm X’s daughter (Ms. Qubilah Shabazz) and a grotesque use of military tactics in Waco, the FBI continues to function as a palace guard, launching a new assault on privacy with plans to turn the internet into a giant surveillance system.

      Life imprisonments are doled out for stealing as little as a slice of pizza, use of churches for political organizing has been functionally outlawed via taxation on the right to assemble, and property and money is confiscated at whim under the rubric of the War on Drugs. This brings us into a new era of gated communities protecting the oligarchy, while the populace undergoes dramas reminiscent of Victor Hugo’s Les Miserable.

      “The rule of law devolves in a spiral that starts from the top” – UNKNOWN

      For a time, an oligarchy knows its bounds, but the memory of the class-war consequences of public displays of ostentatious arrogance fades and oligarchies become contemptuous of the laws that restrict them.

      While still President, Ronald Reagan flouted the Constitution when he accepted knighthood from Queen Elizabeth II of England.

      The entire Iran-Contra scandal (replete with drugs-for-guns barter arrangements) revolved around the office of George Bush’s Vice Presidency.

      Bill Clinton arose from a corrupt Arkansas political machine rife with all manner of corruption involving drug money and illegally managed banks. Even more troubling, under the Clintons, the position of First Lady Hillary Clinton rose to the same level as a cabinet-level position, completely circumventing the Constitutional powers of Congress to ratify cabinet appointments.

      “A nation of slaves is always prepared to applaud the clemency of their master who, in the abuse of absolute power, does not proceed to the last extremes of injustice and oppression.” – Edward Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire

      This oligarchy of the ruling and explaining class seems more self-absorbed and pretentious than ever, a self-infatuation never even dared during the New Deal and Second World War eras.

      The daily nauseum of legions of fawning synchophants heaping their adulation on the celebrity of high office is only paralleled by the grand circle-jerks of the Hollywood movie industry. In keeping with that Hollywood spectre, Ron & Nancy Reagan could do no wrong, and the Clintons are apparently surrounded by an entourage of courtiers and courtesans.

      Alexis de Toqueville cited the U.S. American problem of the fatuous courtier in the 19th century, and the syndrome has fully reemerged in the late 20th with a new and peculiar twist.

      With this facade of politics imitating Hollywood celebrity; the media presentation of politics has devolved into entertainment, tawdry exposes based on rumour and speculation, increasingly devoid of relevant content.

      The concept of scandal has been debased to the point that future scandals of real import to the republic may be ignored.

      “Democracy is America’s great nonsense word” – H. L. Menken

      The level of personal representation at the federal and state levels has been diluted by both the power of monied interests manipulating the politicians and the sheer increase in population. Yet, the winner-take-all system remains protected from calls for proportional representation, the most prominent voice of whom was Lani Guinier. Predictably, she was cast out from the political appointee process, branded as a ‘radical’ by the Washington establishment.

      Ironically, contemporaneous attempts at racial gerrymandering of winner-take-all districts as a means of bringing representation to racial minorities (unnecessary in a balanced system of proportional representation) were ultimately ruled (as predicted in the case of North Carolina) to be unconstitutional, demonstrating that the crisis of the winner-take-all two-party system cannot be rectified within its own parameters, bringing us back to the static crisis, paralyzed by the internal contradictions of the established system. Functionally, our nation as it is defined by the 2-party system, is stuck.

      I never vote *for* anyone. I always vote against. – W.C. Fields

      The U.S. 2-party system has reigned almost unchallenged for nearly a hundred years. But, for once, a REAL challenge to the duopoly of the Democrats and the Republicans arose in January 1996, only to be quashed by the Supreme Court in 1997. A minor party attempted to overturn restrictive anti-fusion laws that proscribe one candidate running under the banner of multiple parties. The practice arose in the late 19th century, and was banned in 43 states as a response to the challenge of Populist and Democrat fusion votes winning elections against Republic legislatures.

      Fusion voting is still accepted practice in New York state (Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy Carter with the conjoined fusion vote of New York’s Conservative and Republican parties).

      The anti-fusion laws were found unconstitutional by a lower federal district court, but the U.S. Supreme Court overturned the ruling, prompting the dissenting opinion to accuse the majority of ‘protecting the two-party system’ by preserving the winner-take-all system of voting. It is important to note that the national news never reported anything concerning this landmark case, even though the then-pending decision had tremendous implications for the republic.

      “Democracy means the permission to be everybody’s slave” – Karl Kraus

      It seems the polity has enough sense to recognize the problem and has chosen to increasingly ignore Washington D.C. as the focus of control.

      The party chiefs, recognizing this, call for more laws and more means for exerting more central control, while the periphery continues to drift away and become increasingly indifferent to the inane ramblings and bureaucratic grindings of the machine in Washington.

      While more and more people have gone to the internet for political news and analysis, the number of US citizens who watch news broadcasts from the major networks has gone from a 60% majority to a 40% minority.

      The problem is that for the centralized system based in New York and Washington, D.C., this ‘tuning out’ may prefigure a more threatening ‘dropping out.’

      America is a country that doesn’t know where it is going but is determined to set a speed record getting there. – Laurence J. Peter

      I have to wonder whether the U.S. democratic experiment has fallen on bad times, and whether it will survive these mounting internal contradictions. Politics has become increasingly local, which is in many ways good, but it is also symptomatic of a situation where the local underpinnings of a national system have become disenfranchised and more inward-looking.

      At the core of the crisis is the two-party cartel, a juggernaut that threatens to take the country with it. I know I’m not supposed to disparage of the republic, but I’d be surprised if a major constitutional crisis doesn’t come to pass within the next twenty years that won’t ultimately topple the Federal system.

      I can only hope that if such a future crisis does indeed come to pass, that the various factions have enough sense to recognize that the many voices of the republic can reinvigorate the notion of unity through true political representation, leading to the implementation of proportional representation.

      The habit of compromise, respect for social contract and public goods, and the belief that government can be more than a necessary evil, have all suffered for the past two decades from the propaganda and confusion generated by the 2-party political system. Rightfully, we have become tremendously distrustful of our own system, but dare we fall into deeper cynicism, we risk loosing everything.

      “The American people never carry an umbrella. They prepare to walk in eternal sunshine.”   – Alfred E. Smith, 1931

    • chuckb

      kate8, years ago i tried to get a grass roots party started in the small town i live in. we talked to as many influential people possible, had attorneys, doctors and some teachers interested. the college granted us a small auditorium, rent free, for one night, several hundred people showed up. lo and behold the libertarian party sat up a desk by the entrance door, giving people the impression it was their party holding this meeting and during the meeting had a representative speak at the podium. this blew up our attempt, people thought it was a libertarian move to solicit new members and most people got up and left. so it is not easy to get away from the status quo. i thought the tea party was a great idea, however, after the 2010 elections they disappeared. this may have been a result of the pressure brought about by the gop hard liners and the bolsheviks ridicule.

      you say romney is no different than barry, i disagree, barry is the most divisive president this nation has ever had, he has placed more debt on the country than all the presidents combined. he has no love for the usa as it stands and he is a complete racist. he and holder verify that fact. his goal is to turn this country into a socialist multicultured society

      r

      • Kate8

        chuckb – The whole point of all this is that both candidates, right and left, are members of the elite cabal, or, at least, the cabal representatives.

        Obama does not make any decisions. Those privvy to the usurper say that he is lazy and narcissistic and, when not before a teleprompter, is back in his study watching TV, playing golf, or partying with his cronies.

        The point is, he does as he is instructed by the corporate rulers. The same corporate “rulers” have selected Romney as their alternate choice, because he has pledged his loyalty to them (else he would not have been chosen), and, like Obama, will do their bidding.

        The past presidents, D and R, have paved the way for the recent ones to begin tightening the screws on the American people. Obama is GWB unleashed.

        The idea that Romney will stand up for us, will work to limit government, is a pipe dream. He cannot, and survive. I stand by my assertions.

        http://dprogram.net/2012/06/16/why-we-must-oppose-obamney-for-president-in-2012-mike-adams/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wordpress%2FBcwy+%28Deprogram%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail

      • Larry Taylor

        The American people will never be free again unless they recognize that Adolf Hitler was correct in his opinions of the Jews. They are evil people who believe it is their destiny to eventually rule over and control all the non-Jews in the world. They are using the so-called “Holocaust” as a sympathy stick to drain every society they can of its wealth with their “victimhood” schtick, and they know that whoever controls the money controls everything and everyone. Don’t let their obsessive whining about the “Holocaust” deceive your minds. Hitler was right, and they are using his memory to attain their goals.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Larry Taylor, you are a full blown idiot.
        I don’t believe you know any Jews to even make your blanket statement.
        You are a human failure but you are not capable to admit that you are at fault so the first enemy you create is that it is the Jews’ fault.

      • http://naver samurai

        I see the Nazi anti-semitic card has been played by Larry. Classic strategy of the 5th column. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • chuckb

    sorry kate8, i still disagree. removing barry should be everyone’s goal. romney is not my pick, however, i would prefer him any day over barry, like your web site says, his brains start at the teleprompter.
    i do agree the people better un-horse both parties or at least clean out the rino’s from the gop. i believe the democrats have matured from a so called workers platform to a flat out communist agenda. vote barry in and you will see the end of what we call a free republic.

    • Kate8

      chuckb – No argument from me. Barry has to go.

      It’s just that, if he does go (and that’s a big “if”, considering the level of voter fraud and the possibility of him resorting to some fake reason for martial law), we haven’t gained much if we have someone else committed to the same agenda.

      Surely you know by now that politicians lie. In fact, it’s part of the communist playbook… lie, cheat, kill… promise whatever you have to (even if you can’t possibly live up to it) in order to win…

      If Romney weren’t sold out to the NWO, he wouldn’t have a chance of being the nominee. It’s as simple as that. Choose not to believe it, but belief does not change reality.

      The truth is, the whole DC pack of wolves needs to be fired. Impeached. Thrown out. Given their walking papers, thrown in jail. Whatever fits.

  • Larry Taylor

    Lasher agrees with your assertions, and it’s still the JEWS!!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      And you are still an idiot.

      • Larry Taylor

        Read the book “The Holocaust Industry,” by Norman Finkelstein.

    • http://naver samurai

      Care to cite a source about what you are saying Larry? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Larry Taylor

        “Beyond Chutzpah” by Norman Finkelstein

        “By Way Of Deception” by Victor Orstrovsky

        “The Iron Wall” by Avi Shlaim

        “The Holocaust Industry” by Norman Finkelstein

      • http://naver samurai

        Thanks for the sources Larry. I’ll try to look them up. But may I say to look up the book “Inside the Third Reich” by Albert Speer? Very informative reading. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Arthur Fonzarelli

    Obummer is doing anything he can to take attention away from his FAILED economic policies.
    Obummer will lose in November because the independants who put him in the White House in 2008 now know that they made a mistake.
    Good Riddance.

  • Tessa

    Somebody at the party said that Mooseshelles ass was 8 times as big as SJP’s. SJP must have put on some weight.

    • http://none Claire

      Good grief.

  • http://Yahoo.com James K

    For 40 grand per plate, do you get extra helpings and does that include a gratuity ?

  • Palin16

    Every Saturday Karolyn comes in here and tells us how lame Ben Crystal is. But then she sets her alarm clock for 5:30 AM ’cause she can barely wait to see what he has to say this week. It could be worse though Karolyn, if you had to sit through my Bill Clinton impersonation, so maybe you should cut Ben some slack.

  • Larry Taylor

    Nadzieja Batki says:
    June 17, 2012 at 3:49 pm
    Larry Taylor, you are a full blown idiot.
    I don’t believe you know any Jews to even make your blanket statement.
    You are a human failure but you are not capable to admit that you are at fault so the first enemy you create is that it is the Jews’ fault.

    Nadzeija: You can only hope that I am a full-blown idiot, because if I’m not, all your beliefs will prove to be wrong, and mine will prove to be right. N’est ce-pas?

    I know, and have known, many Jews in my life, but on the other hand it isn’t necessary to be personally familiar with a rattlesnake to know how dangerous they can be.

    I am not a failure at all, in fact, I am very well-off, and I have no need to admit any fault. It wasn’t I who created the enemy, it was they, and their own behavior, that created their legacy of hate.

    Here’s hoping you can wake up some day.

  • Steven Archibald

    Is’nt SJP’s husband Mathew Broderrick?,or is that Nikki Cox?,..

  • Larry Taylor

    samurai says:
    June 19, 2012 at 8:45 pm
    Thanks for the sources Larry. I’ll try to look them up. But may I say to look up the book “Inside the Third Reich” by Albert Speer?

    I read Speer’s book decades ago, but tho tell you the truth, I don’t remember a lot about it except that he was Hitler’s architect, who was to build the Great Domed Hall and many other edifices to glorify the Thousand Year Reich, and he was sentenced to twenty years in prison for his association with the Third Reich.

    You must realize that his book never would have been published if it had told the truth, because all the major publishing houses are owned by Zionist Jews. Speer couldn’t have been a wealthy man after those twenty years in a Zionist prison, which leads me to believe, because of his poverty and reputation, he altered some facts in his book to appease the Jews who would publish the book.

    Everything concerning Zionism and the Jews must be taken with a grain of salt, so to speak, because of their necessity to falsify the truth about their motives and ends. Here, let me remind you that if a group of people have been hated, persecuted, and even murdered for centuries, with whom does the fault ultimately lie? Is it the whole world or is it their behavior that causes such contempt?

    One must think past the popular propaganda, and reason out the truth about these people. There must be much research and study to surmise what they are about.

    I am going to do some research myself, since my recollection isn’t what it used to be, and post some more sources in here that are pertinent to this subject. Believe me, they are an extremely powerful and influential group who can have anything I post excised from the web, but I will try to post them anyway.

    • Larry Taylor

      Here is a good source for some factual evidence that Israel and the Zionist Jews aren’t our friends and allies. This video is some two hours long, but is full of information the Zionist-owned mainstream press will not let you see and hear about. I sat and listened to the whole thing last night, but it can also be viewed in segments by noting your time scale at the bottom of the video, and returning to wherever you left off viewing it. It is shocking.

  • Larry Taylor

    Sorry I left out the linlk from the above post, but here it is:

    http://www.911missinglinks.com/

  • Larry Taylor

    Here are some more sources:

    http://www.ihr.org/

    What world-famous men have said about the Jews; stormfront.org

    News from Atlantis: blogspot.com

  • Larry Taylor
  • http://naver samurai

    What?!? No more comments from truesoy (kang) and David Deal? The Samurai stands victorious on the field of battle, byt the grace of God. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

      Of course you win. You cannot win an argument against someone who refuses to accept facts unless it is done in a controlled setting as a debate contest with impartial judges. You annoint yourself as judge so you always win. Hope that works for your ego.

      • http://naver samurai

        Just remember this one:

        “I have sworn pon the alter of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mnd of men.”

        Thomas Jefferson

        Since atheism is a form of tyranny over the minds of men, even Jefferson would be fighting against you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. I still stand tall and victorious on the field of battle, by the grace of God.

        • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

          Atheis have also been called FREE Thinkers! This is clearly NOT Tyranny but quite the opposite. We have escaped the TYRANNY of the church which is ALL about controlling mankind and the wealth.

        • truesoy

          samurai;

          You are a one person crusader for the misrepresentation of teh founding of our nation.
          What you quote Jefferson at is not exactly, so. But I can quote you one of his better ones:
          a)…”I may grow rich by art I’m compelled to follow, I may recover health by medicine I’m complelled to take against my own judgement, but I can’t be save by worship I disbelieve and abhor”

          b)…”millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of christianity, have been burn, tortured, fined, an imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What have been the effect of coercion?. To make one half the world fools , and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

            I’ve seen this and it sums up his doubts and his clear vision when seeing the great damage religion has caused the world and his wavering faith which is well documented as well as in the book I’ve been reading called “The Invention of Air” about Joseph Priestly and his friendship with Jefferson.

      • http://naver samurai

        Sheesh truesoy, where did you come up with those misrepresentations of Thomas Jefferson? Care to cite the source you used? They ure didn’t come from any book I’ve hadthe privilege to check at the Library of Congress.

        I have sworn upon the alter of God eternal hostilit against evry form of tyranny over the mind of man.”

        Thomas Jefferson

        The American Presidents, David C. Whitney, Doubleday & Company, Inc., Garden ity, New York, Copyright 1969, Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 67-20646.

        This quotation from Thomas Jefferson, carved on his memorial in Washington, D.C., epitomizes the philosophy to which he dedicated his life, his mind, and his eloquent pen.

        “Never did a prisoner released from his chains feel such relief as I shall on shaking off the shackles of power…I thank GOD for the opportunity of retiring from them without censure, and carrying with me the most consoling proofs of public approbation.”

        Thoma Jefferson

        The American Presidents, p. 39.

        Sorry truesoy, but why must you lie about Jefferson, just to show your rewritten version of our history? You 2 lie like rugs. David, how are you oppressed by the church, God, Jesus, and the Bible? Because they say how you should live your life according to God? That’s kind of arrogant and less intelligent of you, isn’t it?

        “And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only frm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God?”

        Thomas Jefferson
        Notes on the State of Virginia

        “Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as pure as they came from his lips, the whole ciilized world would now have been Christian.”

        Thomas Jefferson
        Letter to Benjamin Waterhouse, June 26, 1822.

        “The doctrines of Jesus are simple and tend to all the happiness of man.
        1. There is only one God and He is all perfect.
        2. That there is a future state of rewards and punishments.
        3. That to love God with all thy heart and thy neighbor as thyself is the sum of religion.”

        Thomas Jefferson
        Letter to Benjamin Waterhouse, June 26, 1822.

        He even made whatwe call the Jefferson Bible.

        http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/17/thomas-jefferson-revolutionary-bible-reissued

        If he was, as you say he was, then why would he sign into law the Enabling Acts on April 13, 1802? The now state of Ohio wanted to join the union, but wanted to know how to do so. Jefferson had the Enabling Acts passed, which told them they must meet all reauirements under the Northwest Ordinance of April 07, 1789. One of these requirements was Christianity an religion in our schools.

        “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good governent and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall be forever encouraged.”

        The Northwest Ordinance, April 07, 1789.

        If he wasn’t a religious man, then why would he approve of such measures? Neeeeed for the 2 of you to be making that popping sound.

        “I have always said, and will always say, that studious perusal of the sacred volume (Bible) will make us better citizens.”

        “I m a real Christian, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.”

        I have so many more at my disposal to prove you 2 dimwits wrong, but why bother. It’s like talking to a brick wall. Go through all the past threads on this site, since April 2009, nd see who agreed with you and I truesoy. You’ll see more people agree withme than with you and you warped beliefs. Maybe it it Elaine, no Jon, no r.p., no trevor, or some other name. You have so many that I’m affraid that I can’t remember them all. I’ve been kicking you round this site for 3 years now, so isn’t it time for you to give up and move on to those looney left wing sites, hmmm? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You eed both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This does not include you 2.

        • truesoy

          samurai;

          The source for Jefferson’s quotes are from Jefferson, himself.
          Go to the library, and/or google jefferson’s quotes. Also read about it on any history book.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry dude, but you still lose as the quotes I have said are from Jefferson himself. Care to cite the book, letter, or speech you got these quotes of yours from, hmmm? Not posting them would be the same as lying. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • truesoy

            samurai;

            ..dude, you can google it yourself. Go to the Jefferson Library, etc.
            Please, accept things for what they are, and not by what you want them to be.
            It is what it is!.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://naver samurai

            That’s enough! Enough of your less intelligent games! I’m moving on victorious! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • truesoy

            samurai;

            Don’t be a sore loser, please.
            Embrace the truth and it’ll set you free !

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

            I concur with Truesoy , the truth is out there man! Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt. Conservatives are so predictable in their responses to facts that put their beliefs at odds with reality. You can claim victory all you want but victory is hollow if stolen or gained by deceit. Watch some of the recent Rachel Maddow episodes and get a grip on truth. Your right wing propoganda spewers are a blight upon mankind, deceiving the small-minded.

  • http://naver samurai

    I dare you truesoy to try to prove any source, quote, or anything I’ve posted false. Since you can’t, I won’t bother waiting as I know you can’t. TTFN. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Larry Taylor

    Here is a great 2 hour video revealing the real facts of the 9-11 affair. You will not believe the things presented by this video, but they are true. You may watch it in segments if it is too long for your attention span, but watch it, you should. It proves how the Israelis were behind the WTC attacks.

    911MissingLinks.com

  • Lasher

    You can just click on this link to go there.

    http://www.911missinglinks.com/

  • http://naver samurai

    Any more lies from truesoy (무신론자놈아) and David? What?!?! I’m waiting for your meager responses. The Samurai stands alone victorious on th battlefield, by the grace of God. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • truesoy

      samurai;

      …and what sort of response would your ‘meager’ question required, if not a meager one?

      Sincerely,
      Truesoy

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