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Ron Paul Re-Strategizes, Establishment Continues To Fight Him

May 15, 2012 by  

Ron Paul Re-Strategizes, Establishment Continues To Fight Him
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Ron Paul polls better against President Barack Obama in a head-to-head matchup than establishment-choice moderate Mitt Romney.

“Mayhem,” “ruckus” and “insanity” are all words that are being used in the most recent news reports about Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul’s performance last weekend.

In Oklahoma, Paul supporters and those of Mitt Romney reportedly came to blows over the nominating process, necessitating police intervention.

Paul supporters, who numbered about 600 and made up about 40 percent of the convention, used various parliamentary procedures to contest rules. The Paul side fell short of electing their slate of delegates amid allegations of foul play.

In Arizona, where Mitt’s son Josh Romney was booed for pushing his father’s approved slate, the convention began relatively peacefully, but deteriorated once Romney supporters realized how many Paul backers were in attendance.

Policymic reports: “First, the convention’s leaders attempted to confuse voters by yo-yoing them back and forth between convention halls and the main floor. In that time, several cases of ballot stuffing were reported, as well as physical assaults on two Ron Paul delegates; but it was not enough.”

When it became evident that Paul was garnering impressive delegate support, the party chair reportedly shut down the convention.

The Paul campaign announced yesterday that it would no longer focus resources on campaign in States that have yet to hold primary votes, but would continue to focus on groundwork to grab delegates throughout the country.

It still remains unclear what power Paul will have at the Republican National Convention, but the option remains that his supporters will secure enough delegate seats to put him in a role of prominence.

A Rasmussen poll last week showed that Paul polls better against President Barack Obama in a head-to-head matchup than establishment-choice moderate Romney. Paul edges out Obama by 1 percentage point, 44 to 43 percent. The survey also noted that in a hypothetical 2012 head-to-head, Obama and Romney are tied at 45 percent.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • Michael J.

    Who can blame Ron Paul? Why waste time and millions of dollars on primaries that have consistently reported inaccurate results?
    Instead, why not focus on the direct acquisition of delegates as long as it’s within the rules?

    • Sirian

      Agreed!! It will be interesting if the nomination does end up being “brokered”. That would be really interesting since it hasn’t happened in quite some time – years. Keep you fingers crossed!!

    • Vigilant

      Michael J., the votes in contention were not primary states, they were caucus states.

      Primaries go by popular vote, some states using the “winner take all” rule and some are true proportional results. I’ve heard no claim that the GOP establishment skewed the votes in primary states. Has anyone heard that?

    • Vigilant

      Sadly, it now becomes clear that “mayhem,” “ruckus” and “insanity” are the mission of Ron Paul supporters. The fired up youngsters have become OWS-like rabble rousers who would rather hijack the will of the people than respect the political process. So much for their squealing about the GOP establishment and its dirty politics. The Paul supporters have now themselves crawled down into the mire with the party bosses.

      On “Super Tuesday” in March, the Oklahoma “proportional primary” resulted in Romney and Gingrich getting 13 delegates each, Santorum 14 and Ron Paul zero. Santorum got 33.8% of the vote, to Paul’s 9.6%. And yet 40% of the Oklahoma nominating convention was Paul supporters?

      No one, not even Paul supporters, can make the claim that Paul picked up more than 10% of the popular vote in Oklahoma. So how does 10% of the popular vote translate to 40% of the nominating convention?

      The Arizona “winner take all” primary gave Romney all 29 delegates in February. The primary popular vote favored Romney over Paul by 46.9% to 8.6%. Even Gingrich and Santorum bested Paul with 16% and 27.1% respectively.

      So, with less than 9% of the popular vote in Arizona, how is the will of Arizona Republicans discharged through the tactics of (1) booing Mitt Romney’s son off the stage, and (2) showing up at the convention with a majority (policymic.com) of delegates to disrupt the proceedings?

      If these are cases where the Paul supporters are tipping their hands as to how they’ll behave at future nominating conventions, then I’d say they have discarded their Libertarian heroes in favor of worshipping Saul Alinsky and Cloward & Piven. They will themselves have become hypocritical anti-Constitutionalists by thwarting the popular vote in favor of Chicago-style politics.

      • Vigilant

        From http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2012/may/14/ron-paul-and-mitt-romney-supporters-brawl-oklahoma/

        “So what is the Ron Paul agenda for the GOP convention? Last week, Congressman Paul told CNN, “”It certainly isn’t for the reason of disrupting the convention. I’m in it for very precise reasons: to maximize our efforts to get as many delegates as we can. I’m still a candidate, and to promote something that is very, very important, that is a change in the direction for the Republican Party.”

        That may be candidate Paul’s game plan, but if this weekend is any foreshadowing of what’s to come, that may turn out not to be the case. Especially if Ron Paul loses control of his rabid partisans, who are not prepared to give an inch, much less support Mitt Romney.”

        Dr. Paul should disavow the brute force, Cloward & Piven tactics of his partisans at state nominating conventions. If he does not do that, and allows the same sort of thuggery at the GOP convention, you’re going to see Chicago 1968 all over again. And it will brand him as just another dirty politician.

      • texastwin827

        While you are correct that there is a difference in primaries and caucuses, keep in mind that in OK Mitt Romney only garnered 28% of the vote. Ron Paul had 9%, however, since Santorum (37%) and Gingrich (24%) have dropped out of the race and only Romney & Paul remain as candidates, that means Santorum & Gingrich’s delegates are “up for grabs” by either Romney or Paul in any state that does not award “winner take all status”. Since Romney did NOT take the majority in OK…Santorum did…OK was open to Paul to take delegates.

        As for Paul supporters being the disruptive ones….they are vocally expressing their objections to the GOP manipulation of the primaries/caucuses by using the correct parliamentary procedures. What part of this statement did you not understand?

        In Arizona, where Mitt’s son Josh Romney was booed for pushing his father’s approved slate, the convention began relatively peacefully, but deteriorated once Romney supporters realized how many Paul backers were in attendance.

        Policymic reports: “First, the convention’s leaders attempted to confuse voters by yo-yoing them back and forth between convention halls and the main floor. In that time, several cases of ballot stuffing were reported, as well as physical assaults on two Ron Paul delegates; but it was not enough.”

        When it became evident that Paul was garnering impressive delegate support, the party chair reportedly shut down the convention.

        You will note, it did not say Ron Paul’s people were the ones “stuffing the ballot boxes” and it certainly wasn’t a Paul person that “shut down the convention”, which by the way is not the first time this has happened. The GOP can not stand that their handpicked candidate is having problems with people in this country not accepted THEIR decision on who will be our candidate.

        Perhaps if you furthered your “education” you would better understand what Dr Paul is doing. http://ivn.us/2012/05/14/gov-romney-worry-less-about-rule-38-more-about-whip-operation/

        Even though he acknowledges, to his supporters, that he isn’t likely to be the candidate, he also knows that if he has enough delegates, he can strongly influence the GOP platform. Restoring our country and it’s freedoms is crucial if this country is to survive as the great nation it was intended, by our forefathers, to be. It has to start somewhere…if not in the President’s office, in the parties that produce the candidates (both parties, not just one).

      • Average Joe

        Vigilant,

        Fortunately, the Delegate system was put in place to protect us from ourselves…to stop an uninformed, under-educated population from electing individuals that the average person doesn’t take the time to vent properly….but rather vote because there may be something in it for them.
        Maybe you should learn about how the process works…before you complain about it…or be allowed to vote for that matter.

        You are complaining that Ron Paul supporters managed to educate themselves and play by the rules…as set forth by the party? But the “party” can play outside of the rules…and that’s OK?
        Hmmmm, I believe you are one of those people… that we need to be protected from..by the delegate process.

        If you are unhappy with the system as designed…..instead of sitting here whining…get off your duff and get involved….whining isn’t pretty…nor does it help with your self inflicted problem. Educate yourself…get involved in the process…or STFU……..

        The process seems to work just fine. It is protecting us from folks like…you.

        If you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

        I’ll be in Tampa for the convention and will be fully supporting Ron Paul 2012!

      • J parker

        As we have repeatedly told you the popular votes don’t matter. The delegates are what matters and they are awarded at a latter date. Paul has a lot of support from Independents and Democrats that cannot vote for him in the primaries and caucuses because they are not registered Republicans. That is why they don’t really matter.

      • Vigilant

        Average Joe says, “Fortunately, the Delegate system was put in place to protect us from ourselves…to stop an uninformed, under-educated population from electing individuals that the average person doesn’t take the time to vent [sic] properly….but rather vote because there may be something in it for them.”

        That unbelievably elitist statement is evidence that he has forgotten (or has never known much) about individual sovereignty, the mainstay of our American republic. He fits the dictionary definition of “prig” perfectly, i.e., “a formal and narrow-minded person who assumes superior virtue and wisdom.”

        “A system to protect us from ourselves?” Progressivism, thy name is Average Joe. Rather than the messy democratic process of popular voting, AJ desires a (self-appointed?) committee of “philosopher kings” a la Plato’s Republic to decide what’s best for us. Secular humanism with all its pitfalls is alive and well in his thinking.

        There is nothing in the Constitution that specifies that a member of the electorate must be informed or well-educated to hold the franchise, nor does it negate a ballot cast “because there may be something in it” for the voter.

        There is nothing in your utterances that reflects a Libertarian point of view, but there is much to brand you as just one more petty tyrant wannabe.

        You may as well dispense with the primary/caucus system altogether if the process is held hostage to the loudest, most roudy group in the room. The popular will has no place in your fantasy world where arguments are won by decibel level rather than adhering to the principles upon which this nation was founded.

      • Vigilant

        “Maybe you should learn about how the process works…before you complain about it…or be allowed to vote for that matter…Hmmmm, I believe you are one of those people… that we need to be protected from..by the delegate process.”

        FYI, I made my decision some time ago to vote for Dr. Paul in light of his fervent commitment to the Constitution, of which I would warrant I know more about than you do, son. And you can bet your bottom, worthless dollar that Dr. Paul is one Hell of a lot more principled than you are.

        Your cavalier, condescending attitude speaks volumes about the type of person you are. Let me suggest to you, that if you want to legally modify the electoral process to add certain prerequisites to the franchise privilege, spend your time working for a Constitutional amendment, because that’s the only way you could get it changed. Of course, that would go against the 10th Amendment but I’m sure an elitist of your persuasion would have no difficulty with that.

      • Vigilant

        “If you are unhappy with the system as designed…..instead of sitting here whining…get off your duff and get involved..”

        I’ve sat here and heard, ad nauseum, complaints from RP supporters about how unfair the GOP nominating process has become. It reminds me of the whining about polls that don’t show RP with a large margin of support, and the claims about how the polling system is rigged against Dr. Paul. When the odd poll indicates a favorable result for Dr. Paul, the tune suddenly changes and every supporter jumps on the poll as “evidence” of a wave of changed sentiment.

        Now, suddenly, excitement looms because the Paulites have discovered that they can level the playing field by (within the rules) packing the nominating conventions with supporters to change, with brute force of numbers and bellicose behavior, the outcomes.

        As I said before, you may as well dispense with the primary/caucus system altogether. Notwithstanding your elitist view of how things ought to be, the American public has spoken. In all primaries/caucuses, Paul has received no more than 11% of the vote, total. Even Gingrich and Santorum, not even active in the race any more, have higher vote totals than does Paul.

        I say again, 11% of the vote does not, could not, translate to anything approaching the numbers of behind-the-scenes supporters showing up at nominating conventions. Instead of recognizing the absolute inequity of this, you point to procedures and rules, or, in desperation, pontificate about the failure of a cretin electorate to see the light.

        No sir, “Average” is not an adjective I would use to describe you. The bulk of “average” people I know are not opportunistic, holier-than-Thou prigs who think they can get their way through any means, fair or foul.

      • Average Joe

        “AJ desires a (self-appointed?) committee of “philosopher kings” a la Plato’s Republic to decide what’s best for us. ”
        As I pointed out…you don’t understand the process…those “self appointed” PK’s…are actually…democratically..elected…but hey, don’t let facts get in the way of your (?) thinking.
        As for being a bit self righteous..have you managed to read you own postings lately?

        “FYI, I made my decision some time ago to vote for Dr. Paul in light of his fervent commitment to the Constitution, of which I would warrant I know more about than you do, son.”
        Make many assumptions? Most likely, I am older than you”son” and have been a supporter and fan of Ron Paul for well over 18 years.
        You claim an elitist statement? The rules are set forth…by the Republican party and the GOP..they aren’t my rules…they aren’t Dr. Pauls’ rules…Obviously they aren’t your rules…but they are rules…set in place, just the same….and in order to change them…you must get involved in the process…rather than playing computer quarterback.

        You claim that “can level the playing field by (within the rules) packing the nominating conventions with supporters to change, with brute force of numbers and bellicose behavior, the outcomes.”

        Are you trying to say that the other candidates were somehow at a disadvantage against Ron Paul supporters? Or that somehow, they didn’t get the same oportunity that Ron Paul supporters got? They had the same opportunities as RP supporters, they just didn’t do what was nesssessary to get the turnout that they needed….plain and simple…it’s not the fault of Ron Paul supporters…they turned our and voted for delegates…..Romney’s supporters…were a no show when it came time to elect delegates….and that’s too bad for Willard’s kids.

        As for your silly rant about needing a Constitutional Amendment….you do realize that this is the Republican Nominating process…and not the general election right? Pssst…that’s why there are Republican and GOP rules in place….it is a “party” nominating process.

        You like to throw out numbers…and pretend they are something that they are not….
        In your original post you give us numbers…and then attempt to apply them as the “whole ” populatin was voting…again…”Republicans” are nominating….not the entire population of those states. Did you forget that there are also independents and Deomocrats who will also vote….in the general election….but not in the Republican nominating process?

        You seem to know a lot…for some who doesn’tseem know much.
        Learn the rules…then try playing the game.

        Condecending? Sometimes
        Is it nessessary? Sometimes

        Never insult anyone by accident.
        Robert A. Heinlein

      • Vigilant

        “As I pointed out…you don’t understand the process…those “self appointed” PK’s…are actually…democratically..elected…but hey, don’t let facts get in the way of your (?) thinking.”

        Oh, for sure, they’re democratically elected when less than 10% of the popular primary vote translates somehow to 40-50%. You might be able to get it past a liberal, but you’re fooling no one here…but hey, don’t let simple mathematics get in the way of your (?) thinking.

        “Never insult anyone by accident.
        Robert A. Heinlein”

        I assure you the insults are intentional.

        “Make many assumptions? Most likely, I am older than you”son” and have been a supporter and fan of Ron Paul for well over 18 years.”

        I’ll be 66 years old in November….and you?

      • Average Joe

        Vigilant,
        Obviously, you are not a man who can be reasoned with..you don’t understand the delegate process…and you need to look into that process..in order to understand how it works…and why it eas designed that way…damn you is dumb…I’ll not waste anymore of my valuable time on you. You have all of the answers (even though you seem to be clueless
        … BTW, I am 56…as if my age matters…age is not intelligence…and you’ve proven this time after time….with your lack of ….

        Again, have a wonderful life…and by all means, keep believing that you have a clue….you may someday believe it….

      • Vigilant

        “…you don’t understand the delegate process…and you need to look into that process..in order to understand how it works…and why it was designed that way…”

        Tell me something: what more of an understanding of the delegate process is required to comprehend that it condones a very undemocratic methodology that can thwart the will of the popular vote in primaries?

        I’m not bitching so much about the rules per se, but about your personal steadfast endorsement of a process that avails itself to shenanigans that turn any hope of democratic process on its head.

        It’s very simple. I believe a sausage-making convention process that could put a candidate into nomination who has been resoundingly rejected by the primary voters is a process that should be excoriated, not lauded. Your anally-retentive support for these rules, to the exclusion of any standards of true fairness, and your elitist attitudes that “the few” are just in overriding these democratic principles, gives insight into who you are.

        Make no mistake, my usage of the word “fairness” has nothing to do with the progressives’ code word for “socialism.” I use it in the way that common sense has dictated for millennia as to what is fair and what is not.

        You may call yourself a Libertarian, but your mindset is one of affirmative action, i.e., that some votes should be invalidated while others are weighted to favor those who take it upon themselves to know better than the average person how your life should be conducted. Your form of aristocracy was condemned by the Founders, and rightly so.

      • http://www.facebook.com/sanderskendall Kendall Sanders

        Tis a shame that the mind control is already at work and you are believing and spewing the lies. Have you ever been to a caucus? The Ron Paul supporters are the ones sticking to the rules. When they cry foul they are slammed for standing up for right! Sickening how the media and Romney is getting away with this. I saw this blaming Paul supporters for everything in action. I was at a convention w.out a button and people assumed I was supporting someone other than Paul. The prejudice was thick. I saw no booing except from the Romney folk., as well as a pack of dirty tricks. The media needs to cover that! This is beyond ridiculous. Now they are physically abusing the Paul supporters and Paul supporters are getting blamed for it. Turn off your mainstream news and get real…please!

  • Elected4Life

    Ron Paul for President!
    Forget the clone that will likely be placed in the spot for GOP nomination,
    WRITE IN “RON PAUL”~!!!!

  • Vigilant

    Mr. Rolley needs to update his Rasmussen figures. From the Rasmussen site itself:

    “The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows Mitt Romney earning 48% of the vote and President Obama attracting 44% support. Four percent (4%) would vote for a third party candidate, while another three percent (3%) are undecided.

    Romney has now had the lead for eight consecutive days.”

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS from Australia

    Lets hope Ron Paul can train up plenty of future potential Presidential Candidates using his strategic political model. I ‘m still feeling there is hope for the future in your country. I’d like to see some new younger blood come out to Australia and try infect Ron Paul ideas into our Socialist Conservatives we have here.

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      News in Dallas yesterday evening said Ron Paul dropped out of the race. Have we been misinformed again by the MSM??

      • Steve E

        Here’s a partial email I just received from the Ron Paul campaign which explains it.

        To: Supporters, Interested Parties

        From: Jesse Benton, Chief Strategist

        Date: May 15, 2012

        Re: Paul Campaign Convention Strategy

        Every day, I see firsthand how humbled and encouraged Dr. Paul is to have the enthusiastic support of so many who are committed to revitalizing our country.

        Let me be very clear. Dr. Paul is NOT dropping out or suspending his campaign.

        As Dr. Paul has previously stated, he is in this race all the way to the Republican National Convention in Tampa this August.

        And he is deeply grateful for every resource he has been entrusted with to run an historic campaign that continues to defy all expectations.

        Looking ahead, our campaign must honor that trust by maximizing our resources to ensure the greatest possible impact at the National Convention.

        So while our campaign is no longer investing in the remaining primary states, we will continue to run strong programs at District and State Conventions to win more delegates and alternate delegates to the National Convention.

        To this end, our campaign has several positive and realistic goals:

        1) Having recently WON Maine, we believe we can win several more states.
        2) We will win party leadership positions at both the state and national levels.
        3) We will continue to grow our already substantial total of delegates.

        We will head to Tampa with a solid group of delegates. Several hundred will be bound to Dr. Paul, and several hundred more, although bound to Governor Romney or other candidates, will be Ron Paul supporters.

        Unfortunately, barring something very unforeseen, our delegate total will not be strong enough to win the nomination. Governor Romney is now within 200 delegates of securing the party’s nod. However, our delegates can still make a major impact at the National Convention and beyond.

        All delegates will be able to vote on party rules and allow us to shape the process for future liberty candidates.

        We are in an excellent position to make sure the Republican Party adds solid liberty issues to the GOP Platform, which our delegates will be directly positioned to approve. Our campaign is presently working to get several items up for consideration, including monetary policy reform, prohibitions on indefinite detention, and Internet freedom.

        Finally, by sending a large, respectful, and professional delegation to Tampa, we will show the party and the country that not only is our movement growing and here to stay, but that the future belongs to us.

        Dr. Paul will begin this new phase of the campaign this Friday by speaking and holding several events at the Minnesota State Convention. He has also recently accepted an invitation to speak at the Texas Convention, and we are busy scheduling appearances around other State Conventions later this month and into June.

        As Dr. Paul stated in his message yesterday, this fight is NOT over. We will continue fighting and expanding, and “we will not stop until we have restored what once made America the greatest country in human history.”

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002881162521 Mike Jones

      There is no such animal calleda socialist” Conservative”

      • Steve E

        John McCain’s daughter says that she is a Progressive Conservative which is the same as Socialist Conservative. I saw her say this on TV.

      • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

        Steve E … Just because a politician (or his daughter) says something … does not make it true. ;)

  • Nobody’s Fool

    Sad to say, but if Ron Paul had physical beauty he would have a much better chance at the most important office in the world. Our primary is not until the end of May, but I plan to vote for Ron if for no other reason than my little protest against the media’s candidate, Romney.

    • texastwin827

      That makes 2 of us! I will be voting for Ron Paul and Ted Cruz on 5/29, here in Texas.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        Texastwin827 – Why are you ruiting for Cruz here in TX? did he not manipulate an effort to stop China from taking jobs and stealing American companies secrets? He was their Attorney correct?

    • My 2¢ Worth

      ” if Ron Paul had physical beauty he would have a much better chance at the most important office in the world “…

      You certainly have a unique vision of this country’s character.. Unfortunately you’re not that much off. I am embarrassed at some of our voters wasting their shot at electing an ‘honest’ president or a ‘buff’ president, as well as those who say, “I voted for the winner”.. Hell, no telling where their vote went (if they even voted). But we’re not all politically brain dead.. There are scads who want a more free America.. A more job environment.. These voters can turn the tide.. Create the ‘win’.. The GOP and DEMS say, “These two will be your choice”.. No options, no compromise. You have options because it’s… YOU’RE vote! You have TWO choices?.. Who you gonna vote for when it counts on 11/06/2012?

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        With Obamas friends in Brazil counting the vote we are doomed!

  • Pete0097

    That is why i voted for Ron Paul in 2008. I lived in the state of MD, land of 1 party rule, knowing that , I figured that obama would win no matter what and that if enough people voted for Paul, it would send a message to GOP HQ that they need a conservative candidate.

  • R. Squier Ball

    When will those concerned about continued manipulation of the USA begin to question the half public, half private power groups: the CFR(Council on Foreign Relations), the Bilderbergers, the Tri-Lateral Commission and the Institute of Pacific Relations?

  • reba smith

    this game of reporting all went one sided when the electronic voting machines became acceptable. Now they are much easier to manipulate the out come. in the caucuses at least there are people to verify the count at the GOP convention the manipulators try to ignore the delegates in an open count. there fore it is always a disruption when the count doesn’t fit the outcome of the powerful,media. party ,etc. We the people who are learning the process are becoming more and more impossible to ignore in a peaceful rally. GOD BLESS AMERICA.

  • dan

    Ron Paul has gone STEALTH…..GOP rule 38 : no electors shall be bound

  • Average Joe

    It’s nice to see so many people waking up to the Message that Ron Paul brings to the nation. It is also nice to see that his message is being heard around the world …this video moved me…the world is awakening!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkiY4W4_pa0&feature=related

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  • Gang Buster 2012

    Of course they ‘re going to fight him,its simply because they don’t have him in their ” dirty rich ” little pockets like they do with “mitt” and the ILLINOS Kid” After spending Millions on a Canidate,would you want to see him, or her loose?Just think of the money That Mitt alone has spent(about 45,000,000 dollars of his own money),do you think he’s going to sit quitely by and not raise any hell?It seems its not so much what a man stands for anymore ,but how much monety you have,and how many dirty ads you can affort to buy.

  • Gang Buster 2012

    Ron Paul 2012!!!!!! Down with the Super Packs!!!!

  • Rocketman

    I think that it’s sad that some people are saying that the Paul supporters are the ones disrupting the conventions. What is taking place is that the Romney supporters are using illegal dirty tricks to get their way and the Paul supporters are standing up for themselves and opposing it. Like the Romney supporter recently that was passing out fake ballots to get the Paul supporters to sign then have the real ballots filled out by Romney supporters who are voting twice. Paul’s people have caught them numerous times trying to fix the nomination and the Paul people are just getting tired of it. I imagine that there will be a fight or two at the Tampa convention if they try anything there.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    I just read on Newsmax – “Ron Paul Says He’ll No Longer Campaign for GOP Nomination – Tuesday, 15 May 2012 06:27 AM” ……. GOOD!!!! Of course many of you are probably sad. I only wish that the old crackpot would also encourage Romney to drop out and open the way for a true conservative to defeat Obama in November. ….. Don’t feel bad. You have to be delusional to continue supporting such a McGovern-like old fool.

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      Wow Earl that their is fighting words on this blog. Good Luck with that….just saying

    • AZ-Ike

      So, Earl, who is the ‘true conservative’ who can beat Obama that you would like to see get the nomination?

    • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

      Oh, really? You read that on Newsmax, eh?

      Why don’t you try a REAL news source next time?

      *snicker*

      • Earl, QUEENS, NY

        Ooops!! I forgot to mention that it was an AP article I read on Newsmax, so it’s bonafide. I also read that Ron Paul will NOT seek another term as congressman from Texas. That may be sad news for the delusional MoRon Paul supporters, but good news to me, assuming the old crackpot doesn’t run 3rd party to get BHO re-elected. As for Sarah Palin, those who badmouth her are either Obama-supporting drones, or misled by the liberal media, or both. GET REAL!! We know Palin is much smarter than Bumbling Biden, and would’ve been a far better VP. IMHO, Biden is such an idiot that just having him on the ticket should’ve gotten BHO defeated on 11/4/2008. Of course many American voters are just ignorant. Many of these delusional Ron Paul fans don’t understand common sense when I say that their idol is not needed. Instead we need a bold outspoken conservative Reagan-like candidate to straighten out the GOP. Well, here’s a good question – If the McGovern-like fool Ron Paul had been POTUS during the Reagan/Bush era, would we still have seen the collapse of communism and the former Soviet Union or the restoration of freedom to many other nations??

  • http://yahoo.com tod

    muslim and mormons are a cult and have always have had a long history of hating Our laws and Christians !!! Dr.Ron Paul 2012 the Only Christian,and True Natural Citizen running for President !!!

    • Steve E

      You definitely don’t know anything about Mormons. However, I voted for Ron Paul in the primary.

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      Tod, I cannot even fathom why you would want to put muslem and mormon in the same sentence. You are nothing better than the liberals on here. Grow Up sore Loser!!!

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Tod is correct!

      • Steve E

        You could never prove that.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        I can most certainly, prove that!!!

  • Nancy in Nebraska

    Our primary is today! I voted! For RON PAUL!!!

  • PaulSupportersDidNOTthrowBlows

    They did not ‘come to blows’. One guy wearing a Romney sticker punched a Ron Paul supporter in the head. He did NOT hit back. The police took the assailant away. An elderly female non-Ron Paul supporter slugged a Ron Paul younger female supporter in the back when they were pushing for roll call vote, not voice vote, as rules require roll call vote. The Paul supporter did not hit bac, — but did video the woman who denied hitting her, but never suggested she was hit herself.

    From this attack of the Romney supporters we get from media that both sides ‘came to blows’.

    see local news report that night, includes video from event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gxlTz40Qk2M

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