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Ron Paul or Rick Santorum: Whom Should Catholics Choose?

February 24, 2012 by  

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • G.Evans

    People should vote for Newt Gingrich ,he is Catholic,just as they are and T H E ONLY
    Candidate with experience he has all done this before.Budget etc.
    Last Debate one saw the 2 bickering, all what they have Satorum and Romney is empty
    Phrasen Rhetoric after Rhetoric and have both taken ideas from Newt Gingrichs speech and copied that because they have NO IDEA want to tell the Voter.
    Dr Paul is a good man with great idea about the “Fed” but he wont be considered by the GOP,as serious candidate.

    • Joe H

      The answer to the posed question is simple. Ron Paul! He is the only one that will protect your CONSTITUTIONAL rights!!

      • http://YAHOO FAITH

        this may be true but he also needs to protect the veterans and ss and disastor relief programs and education and jobs. I like Ron Paul but he is not serious about winning and he is not forthright. He has been silly and running for the youth and to heck with the rest of us. Here he is old and makes a joke out it. He should say, I have experience and I can be President of the US or is he running for his son. Either get serious and talk forthright and stand up to the other candidates and beat them or get out. Enough of wasting our Time.

      • Joe H

        Faith,
        I’m a member of a group that supports R. Paul and all but two of our members are over 60 years old! Now how does that follow “pandering to the YOUTH”??? BTW, there are 47 members in our group.

      • DaveH

        Where do you get that stuff, Faith?
        Ron Paul has far more military donors than any of the other candidates.
        And he is trying to help us have more jobs and education, but done more cheaply by the private sector where everything is done more efficiently than Government does it.
        He is not Forthright, Faith? He is, by far, the most honest candidate in the Republican Party. The rest will not tell you that Big Government is ruining our country because they like their Power. And none of the rest come even close to Ron Paul’s consistent Principles.
        Do you even know what Forthright means, Faith?

      • DaveH

        In fact Faith, according to the Ron Paul website — “The Ron Paul 2012 Presidential campaign raised more campaign donations from active-duty members of the military than all other presidential candidates combined–Republican or Democrat–according to a Paul campaign internal analysis”.

      • Joe H

        DaveH,
        In fact Odumberer only started to recognize the veterans and active duty servicemen/women AFTER it was announced how many were supporting Ron Paul!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.folts John Folts

        Ron Paul is the only candidate that is wise enough and follows our Constitution! He knows what we need and knows how to do it. He says what he means and means what he says. Ron Paul tells us the truth and has the best message of sound money and liberty and freedom. I can not see why anyone would want anyone else for our President. Ron Paul cannot be bought. He is honest and has the very best plans to restore our America. It is only a matter of time for all to come crashing down with the other candidates as our President.

    • Vigilant

      “People should vote for Newt Gingrich ,he is Catholic,just as they are…”

      Perhaps African Americans should vote for Obama, he is black just as they are.

      Perhaps Mormons should vote for Romney because he’s Mormon, or doctors vote for Ron Paul, or adulterors vote for Gingrich, etc, etc.

      Your logic is sophomoric and faulty.

      • http://YAHOO FAITH

        Yesterday Jeb Bush said, “he is no longer a Conservative” watching and listening to the GOP party is very Troubling.

      • http://YAHOO FAITH

        Now you use color of ones skin, black That is the problem seeing the color of skin.

      • Vigilant

        FAITH, get some knowledge before you post, and look up “parody” in the dictionary.

      • Vigilant

        Moreover, Mr. Woods is tilting at windmills if he believes he can change the minds of people regarding Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

        According to Pew Research ( http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2196/iran-nuclear-weapons-israel-afghanistan-withdrawal-military-action?src=prc-newsletter ),

        “Nearly six-in-ten (58%) of Americans say it is important to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, even if it means taking military action. Just 30% say it is more important to avoid a military conflict with Iran.

        “When it comes to the possibility that Israel may soon attack Iran’s nuclear facilities, as has been reported in news stories, 51% say the U.S. should remain neutral. But for those saying the U.S. should take a position, 39% believe it should support an Israeli attack compared to 5% who say it should oppose such action.”

    • Vigilant

      Woods argument for subsidiarity is good only to an extent. The government MUST be involved in the institution of marriage, albeit at the lowest level possible.

      There’s a good reason that governments require marriage licenses and civil ceremonies, Would you leave it to any church to decide who gets the inheritance on a person’s death, regardless of the will of the decedent? Who gets custody in divorce cases? Or whether the arrangement is community property or otherwise? Etc., etc., etc.

      No, Mr. Woods, we are not a Catholic monarchy and we don’t seek to become one.

      • DaveH

        People can engage in contractual relationships without Government involvement except to enforce the contract terms later if violated.
        In fact, in regards to marriage, Government turns contract law upside down — ignoring the explicit vows taken by the couple, and enforcing implied contractual terms that were both unknown and unaccepted by the couple upon getting married.
        As usual Government just comes along to screw things up and enrich themselves. In fact, I’m involved in an estate dispute right now, and the Justice System will only mete out justice if I pay them more than I will receive from a just settlement.
        The Court system has evolved into a money making scheme for lawyers and judges — damn justice.

      • http://www.facebook.com/john.folts John Folts

        I think that people regardless of their religion should be able to choose as individuals to make personal private decisions without a big government telling us all what we should or should not do. If someone has an objection to birth control based upon their religious belief that is their personal freedom to choose what they want or do not want. Now birth control as a medicine for certain illnesses or diseases is certainly not something that anyone would want to deny someone and have them suffer the consequences. I am not in favor of any big government trying to make individual decisions that they are not even qualified to make. What is wrong with the individual and their doctor deciding what is best for their health? Why is everyone all into our personal and private matters and our individual choices that most everyone eventually needs to decide on an individual basis? Peace and liberty to all.

    • Vigilant

      Mr. Woods, you are toeing a fine line here when you say, ““You are first a Catholic…you are not first an American.”

      That’s a subject for which I’d like to see some discussion.

      • Vigilant

        BTW, would you take the position that a person of Islamic faith should say, “I am a Muslim first and an American second?”

  • http://YAHOO FAITH

    The Republican party is a disgrace as Americans and they use social issues and religion now but call our POTUS a socialist and communist. The Republicans are running a slur campaign and they lie and exaggerate and use fear and brainwashing methods. They stand for Big Businesses (Corporations) and use the trickle down method to justify their means when since we are using the bible, the “lazarus crumbs”. Lazarus master gave him the crumbs. The Republican party is going against freedom of religion to worship or not to worship and freedom to choose. They have continued to pad the very wealthy in this country and they support the government as long as it only serves them but the rest of Americans including the Veterans who are not honored are throw a ways. The poor has always been the back they use to step up and stay up and they now don’t want to lift one finger to help us when they caused the economic collaspe and they now want to call ss a ponzi scheme and cut medicare and all programs to do with health of a nation and education of course but not cut their own childrens education. They are the Self Righteous bigots and racist and they use Faith to fuel their rhetoric and they have no conviction about what the bible says about “fair weights and measures” or about Bearing False Witness against your Neighbor, (in this case, our President Obama), and they now take us back 50 plus years and want to fight birth control and force women to have invasion procedures. The Republican party is grossly dishonest as is Fox News namely Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly, etc., they are the Big I and the rest of us the Little no count Americans and Citizens but good enough to pay 28 and 35 percent taxes. They outsourced our jobs and make huge profits and they should lose their citizenship, they don’t want regulations because then they are free to do as they please without the government which is we the people looking in and catching them as criminals do, more concerned about profit and wealth which is totally opposite of any Bible standard and they don’t care of they destroy peoples health and land and llives like they’ve done to the veterans who went in their place and fought all the wars while they were the ones playing golf and cheating on their spouses which the bible clearly speaks about but they only refer to abortion and now birth control but not adultery which by the way if a commandent one of the Ten I guess they cannot read or count either like perry. Santorum knows the devil obviously because he did not fall far from Satans tree in the garden sounds like. He is using Satan to run for President. He should run for a church not the country. He is a disgrace and said, its burning down there. Get a antibiotic or die like they all said once during a debate if a 31 yr old doesn’t have ins., let him die and the sick crowd appaulded. That is what is DANGEREROUS IN THIS COUNTRY PEOPLE THAT WILL SUPPORT AND APPAULD THIS KIND OF CONVICTION. ITS SICK. THANK GOD FOR OBAMA. HE IS MORE CHRISITIAN THEN FRANKLIN GRAHAM. SEEMS FRANKLIN FELL FAR FROM THE TREE OF HIS FATHER AND IS THE REBEL. HE BELIEVES SANTORUM AND NEWT AND EVEN SAID, TRUMP IS THE MAN TO RUN BUT HE DOES NOT ACCEPT OBAMA IS A CHRISITIAN AND SAID HE IS CONDEMNED FOR THE ISLAMIC SEED. WHAT RACISM AND ANTI MUSLIM SAME AS ANTI JEWISH. HOW SAD AND SICK. WHAT A DISGRACE AND HOW DANGEROUS THE GOP PARTY AND EVANGELICALS THAT ARE BACKING THEM AND MIND YOU ARE EXEMPT FROM TAXES AND WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY ALTHOUGH THEY BEG FOR MONEY AND USE PEOPLES SICKNESS AND LONLINESS, ETC, AND FEAR OF HELL AND DAMNATION WHICH SHOULD BE OUTLAWED AND BRING IN MILLIONS AND ARE EXEMPT AND ALL THEY SAY IS CHURCH AND STATE SEPERATED BUT NOW THEY WANT TO RUN THE GOVERNMENT AND HAVE A VOICE. THEY ARE HYPOCRITES AND A GANG OF THEIVES AS JESUS CALLED THEM. THEY TURNED OUR FATHERS HOUSES INTO DEN OF THEIVES AS JESUS SAID.

    • http://YAHOO FAITH

      Well said………….gives much to thnk about. Run for office Faith.

      • Joe H

        Yeah faith, run for office. you’ld fit right in with the majority of the crazies in DC that talk to themselves!!!

        • http://YAHOO FAITH

          I am in the library and someone jumped on to read and get in on the conversation you jerk. I am a veteran and I am not crazy your party is the republicans. Look around and listen. Your following another Jim Jones movement.

      • Joe H

        The post says FAITH SAYS:!!!!!! It doesn’t say somebody that jumped up and joined the conversation says: BTW thank you for your service, as I too am a vet!!

    • Bill

      Now now lets not thank god for OB. OB is god. He is the savior of human kind. he knows what is good and evil. He only wants to do good. Those who oppose him are the devils. he will fight them with all of the might he can muster, he will defeat the devils, Devils will not be permitted to interfere with his plan. He is all knowing and Omnipotent. he is all powerful, everyone will eventually bowl down and thank him for the very life that he gives everyone. He will conquer the mountains, he will see that the land is tilled by his people and that the harvest will be shared by everyone on an equal basic. he will get rid of anger, hostility, envy. he will see that there is no need for money or for houses or any material possessions. he will provide the means for transportation, he will provide the need for everything and at that time all of us on the earth will be living in paradise.

      • lynda

        Well said!

    • s c

      OK, F. Here’s your chance to defend your most curious stance on corporations and their faults. You have no use for corporations (right?). ALL corporations are evil and must be watched (right?). OK. WHY do you love the Fed?
      Don’t you know that the Fed is America’s worst corporation?
      Is your history a bit incomplete? If your teachers did their job (HA!), then you should be one of the first on this website to realize that the Fed [the Federal Reserve, in case you're not certain] is something that has drained America’s wealth since 1913.
      So, F, has a cat got that ‘thing’ that’s limp in your mouth? This is your chance, F. Show us whatcha got.

  • Rafael

    Ron Paul knows about free enterprise, by far his the best candidate and would be the best choice to solve the crisis in this country, but as many excellent candidates are wasted all over the world and since this country is not an exception, people will choose wrong and this is due to lack of interest in political economy.

  • http://YAHOO FAITH

    Ron Paul said, 9/11 was not a Terriost Attack and he also said, “let him die” if he has no insurance and cannot afford it and also against any intervention by government and using the civil liberties and freedoms to justify his policies when they are at his age of no consequence but for the rest of us, the middle class and low class and veterans and taxpayers, the common men and women in this country his policies don’t speak to all of us however, he is a very wise in financial matters and should be taken serious and he lines up more with the liberal democrats then republicans. Is he running for his son? Who should not be a politician he is one sided and narrowminded and not for we the people but only his people.

    • Joe H

      Faith,
      show me a cite that says R. Paul said let them die if they don’t have insurance. He’s a DOCTOR, for cripes sake!!! Just because you say it and repeat it does NOT make it FACT!!!

      • http://YAHOO FAITH

        You can look it up in the past debates. I told it factual and heard it right out of Ron Paul mouth………………and the crowd appaulded and the other candidates agreed. Let him die. If someone doesn’t have insurance then let him die. That was the question if a 31 yr old had a terminal disease did not have ins., should the government intervene and Ron Paul said, let him die and again the sick crowd appaulded and the other candidates agreed period. I would not distort or lie. Look up the debates or google on line for yourselve. But you like the rest of your party cannot handle the truth. If you hear it you twist it. Like Santorum and Romney and Paul and Newt and Perry have walked back what they have said off the cuff until they got the backlash. Look it up period. I like Ron Paul but not for President or my doctor. He let his own campaign mgr at 42 die and he also did not have medical ins. Deal with the truth not what you want. Obama is a President that is Fair and for all of Us and for Fairness and Equality and Health care and the Republicans are against Obamacare but it was a Republican=Romney who came up with Romney Care and said it worked so well and now Romney walks it back. You are following a party that will not be a party but for the one percent the very Wealthy. Even Jeb Bush said tdy, he used to be a conservative and now what he has witnessed and the bashing of Obama etc., it is VERY TROUBLING. Good Luck.

      • http://YAHOO FAITH

        google: did Ron Paul say let a uninsured man die? It was the CNN debate on Sept 12, 2011 hosted by Wolf Blitzer. He said, let the church take care of people and that is a joke. Until you get in the ditch and need medical treatment to save your stinking life or you get your arm and leg blown off or diagnosed with cancer and need medical treatment now, you don’t care. Obviously at Ron Pauls age he doesn’t consider it vitally important. Hell he has lived his life.

      • Joe H

        Faith,
        I did look it up and suggest YOU look it up and read real slowly, word for word. It says in the transcript that even though DR PAUL DISAGREED WITH JUST LETTING THE SICK DIE, A FEW FROM THE AUDIENCE YELLED “LET THEM DIE”! now I think even YOU would agree that ANYBODY could be in that crowd so they could be libertarian, liberal, republican, or independent! no where does it say the persons were identified let alone by party afilliation!! Dr. Paul NEVER SAID IT!!! You LIE! You LIE about one of the most principled people to run in the last 50 years!!!

      • DaveH

        Joe’s correct, Faith. Ron Paul said no such thing.
        But as a matter of fact, we will all die some day. The difference will be — did we live our lives in honor, or did we dishonorably take advantage of other human beings? Nobody has a right to ride on anybody else’s Unwilling Shoulders (Slavery).
        But even if you have no Morality, the fact is that Socialist countries always have bad economies. With Big Government, productivity declines dramatically resulting in fewer goods and services, thus more suffering for everybody. If you truly are concerned about people who are suffering through no fault of their own, then you are voting for the wrong people.
        See her for what Big Government brings people:
        http://heritage.org/index/ranking
        The countries with the Biggest Governments also have the worst economies. They all get there with the same Progressive promises that in reality are just hot air.

  • http://YAHOO FAITH

    Santorum is a outrageous, angry, self righteous, lying, lobbyist, flip floper like Willard and angry like Newt and arrogant and prejudice and not the goody two shoes he is trying to sell. He is a hypocrite. He also has something as he said, “burning down there”. As his party said, don’t ask the government to intervene, die……………..they should get the president they want and us get the president we want and see how it comes out. For now, Obama has been clearly a president that is for the middle class and the poor and sick and he is for Fairness and Equality but they twist it and say, take what we got and give to the poor” yet the very Faith and Bible they say they live by, says, exactly, Much you have, Much Required, little you have, little required, and futher to sell what you have give to the poor and follow him and Santorum and Romney don’t mention those instructions right out of the GOOD BOOK THE BIBLE. They use the Bible only if it fits their message and leave the rest out as the Mega Church leaders do yet Jesus said, beware of any man asking for money to hear the gospel. Run from them. As Judas Iscariot he sold Jesus for money like the Republicans are selling the American people and the veterans and the American dream for Wealth and they also forget the Commandents “do not steal” do not commit Adultery, Do not lie, Do not Bear False Witness against Anyone, they have broke them all yet how is it they GO ON AND ON ABOUT OTHER SINS, ABORTION CALLING IT MURDER AND SAY THEY ARE PRO LIFE YET THEY SAID IN THE DEBATE AND ALL OF THEM AGREED AND THE CROWD THEY PAID TO BE THERE, TO LET A PERSON DIE IF THEY HAVE NO INS (all over Obama Care which was a Republicans Romney Care ) and yet ole Willard will not Own it now and flip flops. He has no conviction and Santorums only conviction is to convert us all to either believe and abide as he does whatever that is or Satan is destroying America yet he is the one hoping to force all people to his beliefs like the Dictator Saddam Huessein was and Hitler are in his views WE ARE NOT WORTHY as they all believe to even get medical help or foodstamps which they caused by loss of jobs and then take the ss safety net away all in the name of their God they say they believe in and stand by principal yet they are clearly a group like theSanhedrins and Pharisees and Pharoahs in history and they deep down love slavery because they are the ones so worthy to live like kings and queens while they use us to do all the work and then leave us to die when we cannot work anymore and pay all the taxes. they do not want SHARED SACRAFICE, FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY OR MUCH LESS FREEDOMS FOR ALL AND ALL ALIKE.

    • Bill

      Faith, if you want to be a sacrificial animal go ahead, there is nothing stopping you. And I am sure you will respect my right NOT to be the same as you. We were born equal under the law i.e. the constitution. but If you don’t like that then I am sure you will respect my rights under the same constitution. Otherwise, mind your own business.

    • Nancy

      I googled “Did Ron Paul say “Let him die…” this is what came up:
      http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/09/tea-party-audience-cheers-letting-the-uninsured-die/
      I listened to it twice and DID NOT hear that statement from R. Paul

      • Sirian

        I watched that one too Nancy and NO, he DID NOT say “Let him die”. In reality, the opposite. As to where Faith came up with that tacks a different light onto the picture she is proudly painting.

        • http://YAHOO FAITH

          yes Ron paul said, let him die. This was in a debate a couple or three months ago. Period. It is not a fabrication it is clearly a fact. Email Cnn or Fox. He clearly said, let him die and the crowd at the debate cheered and appauled in agreement and that is a FACT.

        • http://YAHOO FAITH

          IT WAS SEPT 12, 2011. CNN debate hosted by Wolf Blitzer. Google, did Ron Paul say, let him die if he is uninsured. He said, depend on the churches or charity. He said, “its his responsibility and he should assume responsiblity.” Well, a lot of folks are not offerred a insurance at several jobs in our country and to insurance shop outside of group insurance is not affordable. I did not try and paint a picture I wanted. I have followed and listened to Ron Paul and his own Campaign mgr 42 died without insurance and medical treatment and these are the facts.

      • Joe H

        Faith, Again, YOU LIE!!

      • DaveH

        Is Faith another Flashman personality?

        • http://YAHOO FAITH

          And what does that make u?

    • s c

      Wow. All those words, and you could have condensed them down to about 15 or 20 words. Are you getting paid per word, Faith?

      • http://YAHOO FAITH

        Very funny! Everyone loves a a*! just not a Smart-A*! The heck with all of U on here. You can’t see the forest for the trees.

    • s c

      Zowie! F, how long have have you been a PRO-DEATHer?

  • http://YAHOO FAITH

    Santorums wife Karen tdy has said, if Santorum does not win this natiion will be destroyed. What fear mongers and outright wackos like the ones before them. Holding people in fear like the Mega Church leaders that are backing Santorum and now here we go, again never mind their GREAT SINS, just the rest of us who disagree and want equality and clear freedoms and choice which read the bible it is God Given a free will. Now the Republican candidates and their associates all want to force invasive procedures on women and young girls like Perry did in Tx and so on. They are a sick bunch of wackos and need to be voted out of office and locked up they are full of the devil. They talk about evil like Hitler did about the Jews and what a threat they were. Wake up Americans.

  • http://YAHOO FAITH

    How is it the news media supports the rhetoric they are hearing like Fox News and Cnn. What is their problem. Its paying fair Taxes and it is their own hidden hate for other people who do not live by their made up rules and beliefs but more then all of it it is their gross need and want for wealth while they rip the rest of the american people off like they did borrowing from the SS fund and outsourcing our jobs.

    • DaveH

      Faith says “while they rip the rest of the american people off like they did borrowing from the SS fund and outsourcing our jobs”. Make up your mind, Faith. It’s either wrong to take other peoples’ money, or it isn’t. You can’t have it both ways. And it makes no difference if you hire a politician to steal other peoples’ money, or do it yourself — It’s still just Theft.

      • s c

        DaveH, I went back and re-read the rants on this topic, and it’s clear to me that ‘Faith’ dances around a topic, and she’s doing a great imitation as a closet-freed utopian. She uses key buzzwords and implies that and that, but when you look at her words again they have that utopian ‘clunk.’
        She’s new here, and normally she’d rate some slack. It’s hard to appreciate someone who can’t take a stand and at least TRY to be consistent. If she doesn’t have a bad case of ‘hard-a-portitis,’ it sure seems that way. That’s about as “polite” as I can be.

        • http://YAHOO FAITH

          I am consistent. There is no black and white. Your unable to consider both sides and compromise. You need to insult to defend.

        • http://YAHOO FAITH

          Look, I don’t need U to appreciate me. Your supporting a candidate that is not even serious and quote said, “he does not believe he will be elected.” Real smart of support Ron Paul when obviously he is the one dancing around and making this a, “a three ring circus.” Either fight to win or stop wasting our time and support. I am supporting Obama. If that makes you respond in belittling comments and insults and inflates you, knock yourselves out.

        • http://YAHOO FAITH

          Call what I say rants. How about your rants? U pompous Windbag!

      • http://YAHOO FAITH

        You call whomever cheats? Did u ever cheat? Not even on your taxes? Right. Liar! How dare u use some self righteous bs about stealing when u are probably a small time crook at minimum. Start paying what u owe since your so patriotic and self righteous.

  • seek truth

    Well said! Thank you for a very eleguent explanation of the clarity and thoughtfulness that everyone should have regarding these very serious issues. For 45 years or more we have had 2 sides of the same lousy coin the same lousy con of smoke and mirrors while government has run rampant with special interests,created laws of intrusion into the freedom we cherish and bancrupted us with illegal wars.. Vote Ron Paul.

  • http://YAHOO FAITH

    santorum said, its burning down there so, put a aspirin between his knees and since America is so evil why doesn’t he start the Jim Jones movement again and go to the jungle with his wacky wife but for all his followers don’t drink the kool aid and don’t call the Govt to bail you out like the defectors from Jim Jones did and got our Congressman Ryan murdered and others. Go ahead and listen to Palins and Santorums, and Mega Church leaders that Jesus called thieves and quote said, you’ve turned my Fathers house into a den of thieves.

  • http://YAHOO FAITH

    thanks………….I am a Veteran.

  • http://YAHOO FAITH

    I should of said………….and an American. Funny I also am very rooted in faith (bible) but also very Fair minded and respectful of personal choices and freedoms and civil liberties and sound money and “the oath” to what we commit and say we will do. I am very responsible and very passionate but balanced. I worry about being what I want the world to be. I am not a follower but even if alone in my convictions I would die for them. I look at the person in the mirror which is me. I stay out of personal issues and religion. I do stand for Equality and Fairness and the Constitution and our God Given Freedoms to life, liberty and happiness. I am against any form of prejudice and racism and inequality but I realize as an American I must obey the laws although I don’t always agree with them and I stand up for the mainstreet not the Wall street that has corrupted our Government and Businesses and Corporations and destroyed our economy. I am against any discrimination. Live and let live as long as it does not harm others or violate our laws. Marijuana should be legalized. Alcohol is.

    • Joe H

      Faith,
      how many cheap cliches are you going to use??? give it a break! Ron Paul is the ONLY constitutional conservative candidate running!!!

      • http://YAHOO FAITH

        1 MORE…………YOUR PARTY IS SO CHEAP THEY WILL NOT PAY THEIR FAIR TAXES. THEY ARE THE HAVES AND THE DO NOTHINGS………..THE STIFF NECKED, SELF RIGHTEOUS, OH SO HOLY AND RIGHTEOUS, AND THEY ARE A BUNCH OF RACIST, FOUL POLITICS. STOP VIOLATING MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH SINCE YOUR A FOLLOWER OF RON PAUL ACT LIKE IT.

      • Joe H

        Gee Faith, let’s look at the last three years. What party hav e the tax EVADERS who have been brought up on charges from the government been from??? Does the DNC ring a bell:??? Hint, Lady, I have seen you post here four times now in one thread that you are a vet. Well, good! But don’t wear it like a shield to protect you from being corrected here as you are NOT the only vet on this site!!! I thanked you for your service and grant you the respect you deserve for that, but don’t expect it to cover you in case of lies! I wouldn’t expect it from anybody here and I won’t give it either!

        • http://YAHOO FAITH

          Yes, I pay my taxes and I do not cheat. I took no deductions. I also went on the site US treasury and for two months I have gave 3% of what I have left. All Americans should give even just $1 or $5. We can pull America out of debt and be the strong nation we were. If we all unite as one and stand up to the plate. People say they are patriotic and love America but, they won’t step out and do their part. They just want to complain and blame without being themselve want they want others and the world to be. I served my country and I will continue to stay in a frame of mind that is not “everyone man for himselve, but rather, one for all and all for one.” If thats to warm and fuzzy for you than watch the rest of us and your country destroyed. Your choice.

      • DaveH

        Who gives more to charity — Republicans or Democrats?
        http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html

        • http://YAHOO FAITH

          Ron Paul is cheap. He thinks the government should not get involved even in disastor and pass out Wild Turkey. This is cheap. He also said, “9/11 was not a Terrorist attack.” We will see how u feel if someone bombs your house or car or shoots you. What will he call that………a accident? Cheap? What crazy lunatic babble. At least I rant.

        • http://YAHOO FAITH

          You are a supporter of Ron Paul and u violate my constitional right to freedom of speech? Look if u need a break(as Santorums Sugar Daddy said two wks ago, , take a aspirin-put between your knees, bend over until you can pass out, and don’t call us tomorrow. Remember u do not believe in any help or assistance from Government or state. Remember that. Now, suck it up and be what u support.

  • http://YAHOO FAITH

    and in reply to Chris Christy telling Warren Buffet to write a check and shut up………..why doesn’t Chris Christy shut up and (lose some weight and the have nothings will have more to eat), and why doesn’t he stand up, man up and write a check and pay his fair share in taxes since he is so patriotic and American?

    • Joe H

      Well, let’s see Faith, it was Buffet that made the dare, why doesn’t he SET THE EXAMPLE?? If I paid my taxes due this year, then I have paid my fair share, have you paid any extra??

  • http://YAHOO FAITH

    Romney did not support the Auto Bail and would of raided the homes when the housing mkrt collasped like Joseph Kennedy did and how he made his millions upon millions, and Romney is the kind of Buisness man that looks for the struggling and swoops in and offers to help then makes his profits and raids companies and leaves them to go Bankrupt and why is it the News namely fox news cannot report those facts…………right, they get pay offs to distort the facts and snuggle up to his millions. How criminal and disgusting of any American. If you love this country so much why don’t you pay your Fair share of Taxes and stop using the excuse and Bush Tax cuts for only the Wealthy and step up and write a check to the US Treasury and show you really do love America. You wealthy greedy dogs have destroyed the economy and peoples lives while we fought wars and lost limbs for your freedoms and you throw us to the dogs. In fact dogs in this country are treated better then humans. They are pampered and cared for and sheltered and adopted and they don’t work….yet you wouldn’t help a stranger or the poor or homeless veterans or your neighbors if your lives depend on it and you won’t pay your fair share of taxes which should be 30 or 35 percent period and stop taking all the deductions and jumping through all the loop holes to avoid paying and putting your money into off shore accts and caymen islands. Shame on you all whoever you are. We are the have nothings but your the DO NOTHINGS and stop the lies about being the job creators………….you outsourced our jobs and made us slaves to china your all so greedy and wealthy your disgusting. Good all you wealthy rich people that have used the rest of us to fight your wars while you lived lavish and in comfort while we suffered for your freedoms and came home to nothing and without limbs and good health and dreams. Your lazy, selfish, wealthy one percent. You created a Heaven on Earth but its not the heaven that will last. Like Steve Jobs said, he was no genius because he said, he could not save his life from cancer. In the end no matter when it comes its certainty its coming…………….WE WILL ALL BE EQUAL FINALLY……….for it is appointed to all men to die……..once and then live in eternity somewhere but you had your heaven, paradise on earth……………its just about up……….then you will beg like we have and no one will anwser………that is justice

  • http://NOWEBSITE EDWARD Brown

    A word from ED I believe its time to QUIT IGNORING our VETERANS and elect only them to WASHINGTON They are the only AMERICANS THAT DON’T CHEAT AND LIE and THEY KNOW WHAT IT MEANS WHEN THEY TAKE THEIR [OATH]TO HONOR,PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA, SO HELP ME GOD. THIS is a true AMERICAN, ANY POLITICIAN that Does not BELIEVE,as a SOLDIER DOES ABOUT OUR COUNTRY, the OATH THEY ACCEPTED to protect & Serve the country as their [DUTY] DESERVES NO PLACE IN OUR GOVERNMENT and ONLY SERVICE MEMBERS NEED APPLY NO ATTORNIES,JUDGES LOBBIST ANYONE EXCEPTING, BRIBES,GIFTS,FEES any kind,EMONULMENTS, TITLES many others, AS the ORIGINAL 13TH ADMENDMENT STATES, BECAUSE our Leaders have HIDDEN IT FOR 150yrs, ELECT RON PAUL HE KNOWS HOW TO OBEY THE CONSTITUTION. THE LAWS OF THE LAND, not by ignoring it and US AS AMERICANS. VETERNS AND RON PAUL and AMERICANS, THAT CARE, ARE ALL WE NEED and the COUNTRY WILL BE OURS AGAIN.

    • http://YAHOO FAITH

      I am a veteran and I have Faith in the American people but it has been shaken once again as it was after Vietnam. The politicians used us to fight their wars, (Republicans) and told us not to WIN. They stayed home and golfed and sipped cocktails and cheated on theirspouses, making millions, while the veterans were in a jungle suffering and scared and miserable and sick and lonely and dying and some, pows and they looked the other way like the Republicans are doing again………….they use us as pawns and then they disgard us in the streets with no honor but a medal and then take our dignity and our pride and our dreams and call it American. They are a bunch of phoneys. I respect Ron Paul for serving our Country and your right, I have always said, unless they serve in the military they cannot run for President or any office period. That should be amendment. Even JFK served and his brother Joseph was killed in the service. At least they served and they were millionaires but unlike Romneys sons they served and Ron Pauls son needs to sign up and serve.

      • Bill

        Let me assure you that it was not Ron that got us into these wars.
        If you want to cannon fodder then go ahead. Get all blown up. That will solve the problem. Blow everyone up. Take all to war. No not seek trade and peaceful means for co-existence that would not be according to the preaching of the bible. (one of the most violent books on the face of the earth) Preach peach not war.

      • Joe H

        Faith,
        Dig a little deeper! Ron Paul served as well!! A flight sergeon!!

      • Joe H

        Flight surgeon!

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS from Australia

    TomWoods has presented a very good argument for us catholics all to supoort Dr Ron Paul, but I already new that long ago even though I am an Australian Roman Catholic.

    I have promoted and supported Libertarian views since 1970 when we had a Liberterian based Party of which we ran candidates and both the so called conservatives and left wingers though we were a joke with outlandish ideas and one of the communist run unions was responsible for the murder of one of our young and energetic candidates Paul Krutulis at that time, but they have never acknowledged their responsibility to this day
    look up Trade Union Security Law – Compulsory Unionism by Phillapa Weeks . Pages 207-210

    It took quite a few years for the Conservatives to start thinking and using some of our ideas into practice during the 1990′s when they decided that governments should not be operating businesses and they started selling[privatising] government businesses, raising $billions of to retire government debt. It worked very well….it meant the govt still collected company taxes off the privatised corporations and they also SAVED on INTEREST payments in the $hundreds of millions strengthening the overall budget substantially.

    It was not till the left wing Labor Party won office did they start spending those benefits away and with the GFC during 2008 they have spent $billions in stimulus money getting us back into having huge borrowings once more, this time without any saleable assets to be able to sell on.

    Now as I examine your debates and your candidates I was emmdiately drawn to Dr Ron Paul because of my Liberterian history, but as far as your other candidates my view is this:

    if your people are really interested in fiscal responsibility then you must ONLY vote for Ron Paul, but if your going the support any of the others like Gringrich. Romney or Santorum…then you might as well keep Obama. There are no half measures in my view.

    Dont get me wrong …I believe in free enterprise…BUT your Republic Government is not a free enterprise business…it appears to be an elected DICTATORSHIP.and if your majority of your voters want Obamacare like Romneycare which is a good socialist type policy …then give the voters what they want by increasing their taxes to pay for it. Its not going to be available for free or by borrowing more money…it must be paid for through taxation measures. If the majority want medical & hospital cover [called Medicare in Australia] then the majority must pay for it. There is nothing fair about it, taxes have never been fair. Taxation is still Theft …. was our motto in the 1970′s, and it has not changed.

    Where fiscal responsibility comes in is where a committed President will cut out unnecessary programs which is costing too much and is not giving value for money to the taxpayer who are forced to pay for services they dont want. The government is not like a normal free enterprise corporation which relies of voluntary customers making a decision to buy their product or service without the threat of jail, like with governments who put you in jail if you dont pay.

    But, if your system is based on what the majority want in a Presidential Dictator…then no point jumping up and down complaining if you choose one of your policy, trust and honesty poor .candidates like Santorum or Romney who appear to be your favourites in the media in Australia at the moment. If your honestly interested in Fiscal responsibility and lower taxes and lower services then YOU MUST SUPPORT DR RON PAUL. THERE CAN BE NO HALF MEASURES.

    If an election is to mean anything then you put up your best honest candidate and you use your best arguments to convince your oponents democrates etc to voter for your Candidate…however if your candidate does not get elected…you need to learn to accept the decision of the majority of your voters and follow the President without being desparaging of his actions. That is my view.

    • http://YAHOO FAITH

      Ron Paul won’t get Serious is the problem and Walk Back his statements about 9/11 which he said, is not a Terrorist Attack and let people die if they do not have medical ins., which most people in this economy cannot afford and set the record straight on Disastor Relief and on blacks. He needs to stand up and let the American people know in the nxt debate he is not like Santorum and Newt or Romney and he does not support their policies and he will protect America from Terrorist Attacks and he does take Iran serious and will not declare War but he will protect us and that he is not old and senile but he has Experience as Reagan said, and he is healthy and he is ready to be Commander in Chief and he would climb in the polls and he would probably beat his opponents. Trouble is he is not serious.

    • Vigilant

      QUESTION: Why is anyone on this forum even wasting their time challenging FAITH?

      Judging from the rambling, sometimes incoherant, illogical and patently false comments of this “veteran,” one must conclude that FAITH is indeed a “true believer” who will NEVER leave the the fantasy world of emotion and embark on a journey to the land of facts.

      And what does being a veteran have to do with it? Does that ostensibly give a person some special insight into history and the political problems of which FAITH is undoubtedy igorant? I hardly think so.

      • http://YAHOO FAITH

        At least I served our Country. What did you ever do just for your country and fellow men and women…………right nothing. Ramblings after the ramblings the gop party makes. What hypocrisy. For the insults regarding my English etc., Do you understand the letters FO? Is that clear enough english for you? Your so interested in your english you forgot how to be human. Why am I talking to you anyway. P…OFF, I’M A DOCTOR.

      • Vigilant

        FAITH steps on it with “At least I served our Country. What did you ever do just for your country and fellow men and women…………right nothing.”

        How about 24 years in the Air Force and another 14 years as a civilian with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. What’s the matter? Cat got your tongue?

        “Ramblings after the ramblings the gop party makes. What hypocrisy.”

        Where, pray tell, did I indicate that I was a Republican? I’m not.

        As for your English, how does one obtain a PhD or MD without understanding the basics of the English language? Perhaps you bought your degree from some Internet fly-by-night warehouse, or had your thesis/dissertation ghost written?

        And such language from a “doctor.” Hope you’re not in the “anger management” field.

      • Joe H

        Faith,
        that little thingy you mentioned above called Viet Nam??? I was there 18 months!!! Door gunner/ Crewchief on slicks!!

      • Joe H

        Oh, and a little correction, it was the dems that got us fully involved in Viet Nam, check out your history!! Kennedy, whom you mentioned above was one of the principle players in that game!! I respect kennedy, but he isn’t a saint!!

      • Vigilant

        Joe, I tip my hat to you in respect for your sevice.

        • MIKE ELLIS

          Extremely well said.

      • Joe H

        Thanks Vig.

  • http://safran kenneth

    ron paul is the only one that make the most sense he will get this country back in shape better than the other 3 and for the catholic and the contraception he would do good on it too.

  • http://personalliberty.com/2012/02/24/california-judge-rules-government-cannot-deny-benefits-to-same-sex-spouses/?eiid&replytocom=540341#respond Alondra

    You are psychopath and very, very, very boring psychopath. You did not change my and my family mind even one iota.
    Your Ron is old heck or if you want old goat, who creak rubbish nonsense. Additionally he is racist and anti-Semite.
    No Ron, No Romney. None of them make the sense.
    Newt 2012!!! Or Santorum!!

    • Joe H

      Alondra,
      from your name and post I gather you are from the balkans area. i welcome you and your famly here. Why would you want the same thing here that you LEFT? If any of the others get in we will be just that much closer to socialism!!

  • MIKE ELLIS

    i just love it how Ron Paul consistently gives people BIG PICTURE solutions with ease and straightforwardness whilst the others (monkeys) haggle with each other’s presumed intellect trying really hard to impress each other and all the while hoping that the public will buy their version of hogwash, and to then have the MSM lap it all up and continue with what can only amount to nothing more than a big intellectual wank!
    Honestly, can’t people see this?

    • Joe H

      As I have said here before, None are so blind as those who refuse to see!!

      • MIKE ELLIS

        too right, if truth be told.

  • s c

    No wonder America is so messed-up. After reading these rants, it’s obvious that public education ‘works’ and is responsible for so many people who pretend they can write and think.
    What matters MOST is to GET RID of Obummer, people. Settle your differences and UNITE and GET RID OF Obummer. Anything else helps him and his robots. As for whether Paul or Santorum is ‘better,’ we’ll find out soon in the primaries. UNITE, people, or get used to living under the corrupt thumb of a dictator.
    Most of you sound like brats on a grade school playground. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

    • Sirian

      s c,
      STAND-BACK! You’ll probably going to catch a full barrage in return about “public education”. Kids do have a tendency to cry a lot if they don’t get their way, don’t they?

      • http://YAHOO FAITH

        You mean Adults in the Gop party and Republican party.

      • Vigilant

        No, he means kids who don’t understand that the GOP and Republican Party are one and the same.

    • Joe H

      sc,
      no sadly we won’t see who is the better man if the RNC keeps ignoring R. Paul!!! We will see the best bootlicker the RNC can support. They fear Ron Paul as he will not toe the RINO line!!! I keep getting these “beg” letters from the RNC asking for donations and I send every one back at their expense with a note that says ” when you support a TRUE constitutional Conservative, I WILL donate! they don’t seem to get the hint, so I’ll just keep sending them back, WITH NO MONEY!!!

  • jopa

    Santorum actually does sound as if he were in the running to be the next Pope and he truly believes in Catholicism so wholeheartedly that the rest of the religions suck.That’s why he is so disgusted by Romney even being on the same stage or the Newt whatever his religion may be today.As I have said before Paul does sound like the only adult in the room when the four of them get together.

  • http://gravatar.com/conley1433 conley1433

    Yes Ron Paul the only adult in the room We can thank and praise God that he is running to expose the truth. We are in trouble, serious trouble. Vote for Ron Paul and give him a try nothing else is working.

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