Comments Subscribe to Personal Liberty News Feed Subscribe to Personal Liberty
 

Rocker Ted Nugent Refuses To Recant On The Eve Of Secret Service Interview

April 20, 2012 by  

Rocker Ted Nugent Refuses To Recant On The Eve Of Secret Service Interview
UPI
Ted Nugent said he “will be dead or in jail” if Barack Obama is re-elected.

Ted Nugent is sticking to his guns and refusing to apologize for anything he said in a recent National Rifle Association speech.

Nugent started a firestorm by saying the present Administration is “wiping… with the Constitution,” “he will be dead or in jail” if Barack Obama is re-elected, and “we need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November.”

Following his fiery discourse, Nugent appeared on two radio shows to discuss his remarks.

As always, Uncle Ted was full of one-liners.

When Dana Loesch of “The Dana Loesch Show” asked Nugent about his rumored upcoming meeting with the Secret Service, the Motor City Madman said:

“The Secret Service are my buddies … I train with the Secret Service. I conduct Federal marshal raids here in Texas. A lot of people don’t know that, but I’m very active in law enforcement. So when you say ‘Secret Service’ all I can do is get a big grin on my face.”

While trying to explain the government’s animosity toward him, The Nuge expressed, “See I’m a black Jew at a Nazi Klan rally. … I have the audacity to speak the truth.

“I will stand by my speech. It’s about we the people taking back our American dream from the corrupt monster in the federal government under this administration and the communist czars he’s appointed,”  he added.

“I’m about positive change,” he said as he explained that he would never threaten someone.

He called Debbie Wasserman Schultz a “brainless, heartless idiot.” And he referred to Nancy Pelosi as “the wicked witch” and a “subhuman scoundrel.”

Nugent believes the Obama Administration is what should be under investigation. “I’m like Mother Teresa with a guitar compared to Obama’s gang,” he said.

“If you gotta problem with Ted Nugent, you are weird, because I reek of truth. People who disagree with Ted Nugent are idiots,” he noted.

He also alluded that his song “Wango Tango” is the greatest love song in the history of the world, and concluded the interview by telling Loesch, “I will shoot a turkey for you.”

Glenn Beck also interviewed Nugent. The radio interview opened with Nugent saying: “Greetings.  A glorious all-American rhythm and blues spring turkey season celebration to you, Glenn.”

When asked whether his NRA comments should be taken as threats, he answered that everything he said ended with “in November” which should make it clear he was referencing the election.

In Beck’s interview Nugent again expressed happiness that he would get to spend time with the Secret Service. “I hear from the Secret Service all the time. They want to buy Ted Nugent ammo. …They also called and asked for the best barbecue joints.”

When the Secret Service questions Nugent, Beck has some questions he wants them to answer.

“Would you ask those Secret Service agents how much time they’re spending with Louis Farrakhan. How much time they’re spending with the Occupy Wall Street people? How much time they’re spending with the Black Panthers who are actually threatening people’s lives?”

Nugent’s meeting with the Secret Service reportedly was to take place on Thursday.

A petition has been started by those who support Nugent’s statements and is available here.

 

Bryan Nash

Staff writer Bryan Nash has devoted much of his life to searching for the truth behind the lies that the masses never question. He is currently pursuing a Master's of Divinity and is the author of The Messiah's Misfits, Things Unseen and The Backpack Guide to Surviving the University. He has also been a regular contributor to the magazine Biblical Insights.

Facebook Conversations

Join the Discussion:
View Comments to “Rocker Ted Nugent Refuses To Recant On The Eve Of Secret Service Interview”

Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don't stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion.

Is there news related to personal liberty happening in your area? Contact us at newstips@personalliberty.com

  • cawmun cents

    Sounds like the Stormtroopers,are coming to the free for all.I want to tell you that its time to put up or shut up for Obama.-CC.

    • Flashy

      one has to ask….how can someone profess to love America, yet hate Americans?

      i guess Nugent’s lack of talent means he has to figure out a marketing method to maintain an income. Sad he chose to play to the “Hate America” anti-patriot crowd. Ah well…he’s nothing but a low talent burnt out rocker who made his claim to fame with catchy pop songs written by someone else.

      • vanessa

        Ted is an awesome guitar player you must be young as listen to rap or some other crap.

      • CJ

        Yea Flash, how can YOU claim to love the US, when you talk so much about supporting those who ARE distroying it? You secretly want to see it fail, don’t you! That’s why you can’t say anything without minimizing others. Just shows how desperate you’re getting.

      • Flashy

        Vanessa…hate to be the one to break the news to you…but Nugent is nowher near high talent. he fakes it well.

        CJ…do you ever read any of my posts denigrating Americans? Fact is, i espouse policies and programs which benefit the Middle Class and the lower income levels, benefit our environment, and benefit America and its citizens.

        I do not live nor feed on the TP trilogy of fear, hate, ignorance.

      • sook young

        I think that Ted is very talented and is right in what he is saying. Can you please tell us what talents you have Flashy? All I see is hatred of anything not liberal and not supportive of our founding. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • cawmun cents

        Again Flashy you expect us to fall victim to your projected forms of hatred.
        I disagree with Obama,therefore I am racist.
        I disagree with homosexuality therefore I hate them.
        I disagree with radicals of many differing kinds,therefore I must have a deep seated hatred for them.
        It is YOU projecting hatred upon me that I find offensive.But that is a radicals tactic for compensating for what they lack in substantiation.Making it ABOUT hatred.
        If you cant be forceful enough in espousing your incorrect position on a particular subject,you fallaciously accuse others of hatred.Then in an effort to appeal to someones emotional state you bring soemones love of American nationalism into your projection of hatred.
        Spot on why we disagree.
        You say that I HATE you BECAUSE I disagree with you,not because you can substantiate any hatred in me from logical argument.
        There again,your tactics separate you from me and you call what I think hatred.
        But what do I know?
        Apparently very little……
        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • Michael H.

        You are an IDIOT Flushy, I own several Nugent albums,(yes I’m a throwback,in that I believe vinyl sounds more natural) and I don’t buy music for one single. If a release only has one popular release, I won’t buy it. Nugent is one of the many hard rockers I listen to. Your taste in music is probably limited to Kum-ba-ya and similar non-tunes. Have a nice day.

      • Robert Smith

        Sook Young posted: “All I see is hatred of anything not liberal and not supportive of our founding. ”

        Yup, our founding fathers grew hemp.

        Happy 4/20 sook.

        Rob

      • wildruff60

        Hey Flash Bang- Who the Flucke ARE YOU?? Why is your Alternative life-style living Tail Here. You Belong on HuffinBlow Post with the rest of the Fagelas. Stick your head “where the sun don’t Shine”, and keep pushing till you see Daylight.

      • Flashy

        CC…i believe you are generalizing and projecting upon me what you erceive to be th usual label the extrmists place on anyone not supporting policies which will rip this nation apart.

        For instance…

        I disagree with Obama,therefore I am racist. [I have never stated this]
        I disagree with homosexuality therefore I hate them. [I have never stated this]
        I disagree with radicals of many differing kinds,therefore I must have a deep seated hatred for them. [Unless this is espoused in a post, i have never stated this in reponse]

        You say that I HATE you BECAUSE I disagree with you,not because you can substantiate any hatred in me from logical argument. [I do not state this. I use only what is stated by a poster. Certainly you cannot disagree that many posts on this site state a deep seated with a violent tendency towards anyone left of radical right. I have read VERy FEW from moderates or liberals based in hate or violence]

      • Steve E

        I believe Flashy has a bad case of “Cat Scratch Fever”.

      • castaway

        I also dislike lots of Americans, in addition to Flashy, and all liberals. They are all trying to end the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

      • Dale on the left coast

        “Sad he chose to play to the “Hate America” anti-patriot crowd.” . . . That would be the O’bammy gang eh Flash . . . . he said 40% of Americans are stoopid . . . he is right ! ! !
        Ted understands that the marxists have taken over . . . I suspect Flash is one of the “useful idiots” that Lenin was so fond of . . .

      • leelee3

        Wow the Flashyass sure seems to be hung up on Ted…I have seen Ted 2 times in a maybe 300 seat local bar & the front row is reserved for Disabled Vets with missing limbs from I.E.D. injuries..funny thing how he loves God, the U.S.A., & Red Meat, so U need to stop Masturbating on ur Nancy Pelosi posters..

      • http://msbets.wordpress.com msbets

        and your nothing but a low life COMMIE…………….STFU and crawl back under your rock, but remember to get your ovomit money!!!

      • http://naver sook young

        Sorry Robert, but you are purposely going off the subject. Why do liberals do these things? It shows that they are immature children. Sorry Flashy, but how could he be faking his talent? If he is, then what doe that make his millions of fans? Are you saying that they are ignorant? So he loves God, is a patriot, and supports our God given rights in the Second Amendment so he is insane? I think you are a socialist. We don’t need socialism in this country. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

        P.S. Here is something about gun control. We know Obama does not want us armed.

        http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/4747/a-little-history-that-if-we-don‘t-know-it-we-will-be-condemned-to-repeat-it/

        This is also historically accurate. Have a good weekend.

      • Meteorlady

        That’s it insults? You lefties are getting name calling and insults down to a very refined level I must say…. Ted is a lot of things, but he does have talent…..

    • eddie47d

      Limbaugh,Beck,Nugent:what’s the difference anymore? Patriotic my arse! Cold calculating devious dangerous and just plain full of themselves.

      • sook young

        Doesn’t the liberals have Franken, Frank, Jackson, and Sharpton? Are you saying that they are better human beings? Sorry, but I don’t think so. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • Robert Smith

        Who are YOU to judge human beings, sook? Isn’t that your brutal god’s job?

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        Sharpton can sometimes have a sharp tongue. He occasionally says some important things on issues and other times he can be a complete jerk. I am no fan of Sharpton either Sook. Spreading venomous hated is hardly a talent and seldom comes from a rational person.

      • wildruff60

        Hey eddie, Check reply to Flasher! That Goes for You Too, Frau 47 D cup!

      • castaway

        Sounds just like Eddie, and his liberal/communist pals.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie, at least that would mean they’re cognent unlike you liberals. “Power to the Parrot”!

      • angelwannabe

        EDDIE, BECK _-cold and calculating, what the hell are you smoking?_-they’re COLD because they believe in the right to govern ourselves and don’t want the GUV in our lives and up our azz telling us what to eat drink and watch on TV?__You and the rest of the lefties on here are nothing but a bunch of pansy azzes, most of ya hate God, you agree with every kind of division there is just to keep the ball rolling, ya act like MSM, The GUV and Obama has got all the answers__ and you guys STILL just don’t get IT, its all a friggin show. We’re doin’ exactly what they want___keeping the division going!
        Grow the hell up and face facts!

      • eddie47d

        I got it years ago and I think some of your ilk (Ted) is one of the great dividers so when are you going to wake up and realize that! Either you will be willing to expose the right wing or you are no better than the left wing nuts.

      • eddie47d

        Ted is doing plenty to divide this nation and stirring us his fellow travelers.

      • http://naver sook young

        I agree with you Angelwannabe. They are sticking up for our God given rights as are written in the Constitution. Robert, who are you to judge me? You don’t have that right. I was respoding to Eddie and his posting of people from the right and not the left.

        “Judge not, lest ye be judged.”

        Please remember that Robert before God reminds you. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Isn’t it wonderful that each of these men has his own character and their own unique soul.

      • vieteravet

        EDDIE the doucmebag, why don’t you go away and give face time to your liberal buddies!

      • DaveH

        The nerve of them, railing against Liberal Theft. They ought to take that theft like men, Eddie. And then, horror of horrors, Ted has the nerve to steal the Liberals’ debate techniques — name-calling, ridicule, condescension. How dare he?

      • Robert Smith

        Sook says: “They are sticking up for our God given rights as are written in the Constitution. ”

        Your brutal god had nothing to do with the rights we have in America. Atheists enjoy them the same as you do, sook.

        In reality it was the blood of our Founding Fathers that bought our freedoms.

        Don’t believe it? Try praying to free China. Try praying to end hunger in the world. Try praying to end sickness…

        Looks to me like your god is a huge failure.

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        Rob Smith says, “Who are YOU to judge human beings, sook? Isn’t that your brutal god’s job?”

        Having a little problem with cognitive dissonance again, Rob? Extending your own philosophy, by asserting that the Christian God does not exist, then you should believe she has every right to judge human beings.

        I won’t wait for your answer, since you won’t tackle the subject head on anyways,

      • Robert Smith

        From Vigelant: “Extending your own philosophy, by asserting that the Christian God does not exist, ”

        Since I NEVER did such a thing once again your inclination to offer FALSE information is showing through.

        Asking that something be proven is not denying the existance. It simply demonstrates just how lame it is to expect others to “believe” out of hand.

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        “Asking that something be proven is not denying the existance. It simply demonstrates just how lame it is to expect others to “believe” out of hand.”

        Kinda like the belief that killing a living human foetus that is “inconvenient” to the mother is trumped by freedom of choice.

        Rob “My Way or the Highway” Smith demands that we must all conform to HIS beliefs, part and parcel, or he will treat us to his bile and vitriol.

        BTW, cretin, don’t involve me in this “YOUR God” B.S. I am not a Christian and you have no idea what I believe in (even though I’ve told you before, but your attention span is lower than your IQ in seconds).

      • Robert Smith

        vigilant says: “Rob “My Way or the Highway” Smith demands that we must all conform to HIS beliefs, part and parcel, or he will treat us to his bile and vitriol.”

        Really? Let’s see what that is in detail. Let’s see what’s really American and what isn’t.
        You know… What is CHOICE about?

        A choice between the freedom to defend one’s self with any force necessary and being a victim.. I’d say choice is the American way.

        A choice on what one does with their very own body at the end of life. Does the government really have the right to jail a doctor who may help me?

        A choice in recreational drugs. Does the government really have the righ to stop me from injesting a natural grown herb that our founding fahters grew?

        Does the government really have the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body?

        Yup, my way… CHOICE and FREEDOM in America,

        Or the way of religious buisybodies who clearly have nothing better to do than inflict themselves on the freedoms of others.

        Yes, I fight for freedoms in America..

        Rob

      • http://folkartist.wordpress.com Libertytrain

        rob says “Or the way of religious buisybodies who clearly have nothing better to do than inflict themselves on the freedoms of others.”

        and what has become evident these last many months is that Rob is an antireligious busybody who clearly has nothing better to do than inflict himself on the freedoms of others.

      • Vigilant

        Rob says, “You know… What is CHOICE about?”

        Choice without responsibility is what you mean.

        A choice to kill a living baby that can survive outside of the womb (partial birth abortion) is a choice without responsibility to the most innocent of human creatures. What choice have those innocents been given? Maybe you believe that “thou shalt not kill” is outmoded in this Orwellian, Soylent Green world. If you believe that, you are not amongst the Homo Sapiens, you are a jackal or a skunk.

        “A choice in recreational drugs.”

        Prescription pain killers and phychotropics? Heroin? Meth? LSD? Angel Dust? The choice to enslave yourself to these addictions comes with a heavy price not just to you but to those around you. Ruined families, deformed babies, psychotic behavior, to name a few.

        Yup, your way… CHOICE without RESPONSIBILITY in America,

        No, don’t wrap yourself in Constitutional principles, you fight for LICENTIOUSNESS, not for freedoms in America..

      • Robert Smith

        Here goes vigelant with another lie: “Choice without responsibility is what you mean.”

        Nope. I’ve expressed many times that pot should be treated like alcohol. It’s NOT for kids.

        Sex is for adults who mutually consent.

        Etc.

        Rob

    • cawmun cents

      Stormtroopers,Free For All,I Want To Tell You,and Put Up Or Shut Up,are all Ted Nugent songs.
      Thats how muuch of a Nugent fan I am…..I actually listen to his music.
      -CC.

    • Robert Smith

      Yes, sook. Gun control is BAD.

      However, the site you sent us to isn’t so accurate. It’s working to generate panic with the question about what happens to the stock market if Obama is elected again.

      The FACT is that the market tanked under Bush because of the banksters and their abuses of the middle class.

      We are in recovery now and the market is doing just fine with Obama as president.

      Why does the extreme right work so hard to generate fear? Are they using your brutal god as an example?

      Rob

  • s c

    Thank you, Ted. He’s NOT pc. He’s not in line for a title if he only whitewashes what he says. He doesn’t live to be a braindead suck-up. Actually, he’s even more of a role model than any ‘black Jew at a Nazi Klan rally.’ And, he’s NOT schtupping for votes. Weep your arses off, utopians.
    If your role models had 1% of what Ted has, your role models would be almost human.

  • Vigilant

    “When the Secret Service questions Nugent, Beck has some questions he wants them to answer.

    “Would you ask those Secret Service agents how much time they’re spending with Louis Farrakhan. How much time they’re spending with the Occupy Wall Street people? How much time they’re spending with the Black Panthers who are actually threatening people’s lives?”

    Uh, Mr. Beck, I don’t believe the Secret Service has either the time or the charter to check out all those people unless they are threatening the life of the president. I like you Glenn, but you can be a bit wacky sometimes.

    • angelwannabe

      Vig, ““Would you ask those Secret Service agents how much time they’re spending with Louis Farrakhan. How much time they’re spending with the Occupy Wall Street people? How much time they’re spending with the Black Panthers who are actually threatening people’s lives?”

      Beck already called the left out on the above, perhaps you missed it.

      • Vigilant

        Missed what, angel? The thrust of Beck’s question seems to be that the SS is harassing Nugent under the misinformed assumption that he somehow threatened the life of the president.

        Farrakhan, the Occupy Wall Street people and Black Panthers may indeed be threatening people’s lives, but unless and until they threaten the life of the president, the SS has no business investigating them. Have I missed something?

      • Flashy

        Vig…the only way one could take the comments by Nugent are at the least, it required a conversation with the Secret Service. He flat out called for the killing of a president.

      • CJ

        Yes, Vig, you did! It’s terrable when someone makes a point in jest, and people can’t see it. Not everything said by others is meant to be taken literally. You’ve been listening to the left’s “mincing and twisting” of other’s comments too long.

      • Vigilant

        CJ, kindly read my comments in toto and you’ll see the error of your assertion.

      • Vigilant

        “He flat out called for the killing of a president.”

        That, sir, is absolutely untrue.

      • CJ

        Vig, I made TWO statements. The second general statement could be your ‘shoe’ if you choose to wear it. By your response, I could assume you did.

      • Flashy

        Vig…you are correct. he did not call for the flat out assasination of the President. He implied it..with a thin veil for deniability. Interesting the NRA has removed his statements from their website.

      • Vigilant

        CJ, you made FOUR statements, as follows:

        (1) “Yes, Vig, you did!” Meaning I missed something. What it was you never get around to telling us.

        (2) “It’s terrable [sic] when someone makes a point in jest, and people can’t see it.” If you mean Glenn Beck, his statement, jest or not, was unbased in reality. The Secret Service doesn’t investigate folks unless they threaten the life of the president. Hence, the statement was misplaced and palpably false to boot.

        (3) “Not everything said by others is meant to be taken literally.” No argument there, for sure. My postings are eloquent testimony to my sentiments in that regard.

        (4) “You’ve been listening to the left’s “mincing and twisting” of other’s comments too long.” Once again, if you refer to Beck’s statement, there was absolutely no “mincing and twisting” of his statements. I quoted him and showed him to be wrong. Not a word play, not metaphorical, not considering whether it was jest or serious, just plain incorrect.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        falsy says to Vigilant…”He implied it(calling for an political assasination)..with a thin veil for deniability”.

        falsy, you know what the context of Nuge’s comment meant and that wasn’t it…but go ahead and satisfy your base…stir the pot and fan the flames. Easy pickin’s all the way around!

      • Michael J.

        Flashman said:
        “the NRA has removed his statements from their website.”

        The NRA has stated that normal rotation of articles is why his remarks are no longer there.

      • Robert Smith

        cc says: “Not everything said by others is meant to be taken literally. You’ve been listening to the left’s “mincing and twisting” of other’s comments too long.”

        Really? What about that Book of Leviticus garbage that’s flung about here so often? Using it as an excuse to hate…

        Eaten any cheesburgers lately? Why aren’t you protesting McDonalds if you are so caught up in “literal” things?

        BTW, how’s that cannibalism thing going for you?

        If things aren’t to be taken and mixed up that transsubstanciation thing sure looks like an interesting candidate.

        Rob

      • http://naver sook young

        Another childish post by Robert. When will you grow up? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • Vigilant

        …and he still hasn’t learned how to spell “transubstantiation” correctly. LOL!

      • Robert Smith

        Does that make the cannibalism any less a horror?

        Rob

      • Meteorlady

        Flashy – he said “I will either be dead or in jail”…. here’s treatening the president – “HE will either be dead AND I will be in jail.

    • eddie47d

      That is the difference between you and I Angel. I have no love for Farrankan or Nugent and consider them both evil specimens of humanity pushing their own slick agenda. Extremists are just that no matter what color or political persuasion. They will weave their web around you and drag you in and apparently Nugent has bitten you.

      • castaway

        JUst curious Eddie, which web are you caught up in???

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH
      • Robert Smith

        Yup Jeff, you can’t fix stupid.

        How’s Palun’s bridge to nowhere going?

        Rob

      • angelwannabe

        eddie__Nobody catches me in a web unless I choose to be caught, bubby!__The Nooge has always been a wild and crazy dude, now he happens to be wild and crazy about the country he loves and doesn’t wanna see it destroyed any further___you guys who think this is sooo terrible, just can’t see this is MSM and the left spinning there tires for more diversion, and I ain’t buyn’ into it.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Robert, it wasn’t Paluns (sic) bridge to nowhere. That was Senator Ted Stevens’ thing. You frequently expose your ignorance for the facts. Perhaps if you spent half the time that you spend posting here, reading and researching, you might have a clue what you were talking about! You’re so quick to jump on everyone and get in your two cents worth, and I’m sure it makes you feel very smart but you never research and you spout off half truths and lies. You’re not nearly as smart as you think you are.

        Abraham Lincoln said: ‘ Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.”

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        RS asks “How’s Palun’s bridge to nowhere going?” Do you even know what you’re asking about? I doubt it! You’d rather mis-represent the truth for a more attractive “liberal” heresay?

        Are you talking about the authorization bill, which included the earmarks, and the final appropriations bill that Biden and Obama voted for?

        Don’t you mean the proposed project to build a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island? What Palin supported was the link between a community and its airport. Really wouldn’t be a “bridge to nowhere” then, would it?

        In the fall of 2005, Congress removed the language specifically directing the money to the bridge, but it kept the money in place and left it up to Alaska to decide which transportation projects the state would like to spend it on.

        By the time Palin pulled the plug on the Gravina bridge project in September 2007, much of the federal funding for the bridge had already been diverted to other transportation projects. The bridge would cost $398 million, Palin said then, and Alaska was $329 million short.

      • Robert Smith

        Nancy spouts: “Robert, it wasn’t Paluns (sic) bridge to nowhere.”

        Palin certainly had a part in it. It was part of her campaign. ” In 2006, Palin ran for governor with a “build-the-bridge” plank in her platform,[110] saying she would “not allow the spinmeisters to turn this project … into something that’s so negative.”[111] Palin criticized the use of the word “nowhere” as insulting to local residents[110][112] and urged speedy work on building the infrastructure “while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to assist.”[112]”

        From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin#Bridge_to_Nowhere

        Of course it was never built, but the money wasn’t returned either.

        Rob

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Hmmm, Robert, did you conveniently pass my comment RE: “bridge to nowhere” or did my answer not suit your needs?

      • Robert Smith

        I responded with a citation above.

        Rob

      • Meteorlady

        No Eddie the difference is that we believe everyone has a right to free speech even if we don’t like their message. The left doesn’t want the message out if they don’t agree with it. Of if it does get out, they insult, call names or use the “race” card to try and stop the message.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        RS, a citation above…typically devoid of substance.

        I also addressed it in my original comment, which you again conveniently ignored…”much of the federal funding for the bridge had already been diverted to other transportation projects”

        Obvious that the money was not sent back. Perhaps you could tell all of us if any state governor or government has ever sent back federal monies intended for infrastructure projects?

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        RS continues to miscontrue with “Palin certainly had a part in it. It was part of her campaign.”

        A catchy little phrase that ended up attached to Palin even though she didn’t even create it. The media created it.

        Robert, here is a much needed history lesson for you.

        Keith Ashdown, the spokesman and chief sloganeer for a watchdog group, had been stewing about how to describe Alaska’s Gravina Island Bridge in a news release. He wanted a catchy phrase that expressed the huge cost and dubious need for the milelong span.
        He came up with the idea while sitting in a bar.

        Then, as he stood beneath a Miller Lite sign at a bar called the Hawk ‘n’ Dove, he had a brainstorm. “Bridge to nowhere!”

        On June 12, 2003, Ashdown issued a press release announcing the Golden Fleece award was going to Rep. Don Young, the Alaska Republican who sponsored the bridge. At first, it looked like the effort was off to a great start. Within hours, the Associated Press in Alaska published a story. But the phrase did not appear.

        Months went by. No one used the phrase.

        Ashdown was discouraged. All that work and all he had to show for it was one measly AP story.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Robert, unlike yourself, I prefer to unravel your rhetorical revisionism and present the historical facts.

        You can read the whole story here, if you so choose.

        Three words that changed U.S. politics.
        http://www.sptimes.com/2007/04/01/Worldandnation/Three_words_that_chan.shtml

      • Robert Smith

        “You can read the whole story here, if you so choose.”

        It’s still a bridge to nowhere, Sarah Palin still supported it until it became a hot potato.

        They did some excellent branding on it. What’s your point?

        BTW, folks on the extreme right still call themselves “pro-life” and yet people are dying to get universal health care in America. My guess is your point is that sometimes things don’t exactly match what the brand is?

        So, the bridge wasn’t needed, and people are still dying because they can’t afford health care.

        Rob

    • http://aol bob robbins

      Yeah, does checking out whores count as one of their main duties.

      • Flashy

        Good question since the ones terminated so far have been in the agency for decades…perhaps one can ask the previous presidents if they had any vetting done before hiring and allowing these guys to be employed …

      • sook young

        You mean like during the Clinton Administration? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • Robert Smith

        Or either of the Bushes.

        BTW, the hookers were LEGAL.

        Rob

      • angelwannabe

        and then they wait to find out if OBAMAS ELIGIBLE TO BE THE PREZ “AFTER” Spending THREE YEARS IN OFFICE, yeah that’s brilliant!

      • http://naver sook young

        Could you please site a source about that Robert? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • Robert Smith

        Sure sook… Is the LA Times credible enough for you?

        “The woman complained to the police – in Colombia prostitution is a legal enterprise – ”

        From: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-secret-service-20120419,0,5352125.story

        BTW, prostitution is legal in America too. Just go to Nevada. MOF, during some legal issues the Mustang Ranch was owned by the United States government for awhile.

        Doesn’t it make you feel all good all under knowing that as an American you owned a whore house for awhile? Although it wasn’t operated by the government it sure is interesting that it owned such an asset.

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        And like everything else the “gubment” tries to operate, it lost money.

      • Robert Smith

        Like I said, ALMOST vigilent, the U.S. government did NOT operate the brothel.

        Might it be too much trouble for you to actually respond to what’s posted?

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        “Might it be too much trouble for you to actually respond to what’s posted?”

        Oh, that’s rich. Your first posting here was “in response” to a comment concerning language and metaphors. The “response” launches into a religious tirade, absolutely irrelevant to the conversation thread.

        BTW, I admit my error. Although the gubment was intending to run the ranch, they backed off under adverse publicity.

        P.S. How’s it going with your spelling? The word is spelled T-R-A-N-S-U-B-S-T-A-N-T-I-A-T-I-O-N. Got it now??

      • Robert Smith

        Yup, literal cannibalism if one goes with the doctrine. Seems kinda ugly to me.

        Ain’t christian huh? Guess you haven’t eaten any saviors lately. Congratulations.

        And in what name are you willing to enslave pregnant women if they don’t want to be pregnant?

        If it ain’t religion why do you oppose same sex marraiges?

        Rob

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Gotta love the ‘Nuge’s moxy. At least he’s got morals.

      The Washington Post reports Nugent described his meeting with two agents as “good, solid, professional.” The meeting in Ardmore, Okla., lasted for about 40 minutes, according to a Texas TV station.

      Earlier this afternoon, Nugent tweeted that he believes the Secret Service are “fine professional” law enforcement officers and that he respects them.

      Nugent said in a statement that he did not threaten anyone’s life “or hint at violence or mayhem. Metaphors needn’t be explained to educated people,” The Post reports.

      For some, the truth is hard to swallow!

    • Michael J.

      Vigilant,
      What is your problem???
      Beck has every right to ask those questions in light of Farrakhan’s remarks on April 16 during a speech for students at LeMoyne Owens college in Tennessee when he said;
      “Leadership is nothing to play with,’cause people tomorrow, maybe in a few days, people are gonna kill their leaders..“

      Many people feel that Farrakhan’s threats were directed at President Obama himself in light of the fact that he was speaking of “leading Black People” and those amongst the crowd were the unamed leaders “own people”.

      See here for yourself:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DekIULmWgN8

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Let’s not turn on our own. We have enough Leftists setting up residence on this site hoping we get fed up and stop countering their ideological and philosophical slants.

      • Michael J.

        Nadzieja Batki,
        Glenn Beck is one of our own and Vigilants above comment was aimed against him.

      • Vigilant

        Nadzieja, you’re right.

        Michael J. and angel, my apologies. I wasn’t aware of the youtube clip, and it certainly does appear to be what you say it is.

  • angelwannabe

    Ya know the Left, just never gets this.__ All the negative fuss they’re making about “the Nooge” in the news, is sky rocketing his popularity ALL OVER AGAIN!…LOL..Only this time its for his outrageous use of free speech & Patriotism!

    Negative press is best, folks will always tune in to see what all Hub Bub’s about!

    Have at it Ted!……America all the way!

    • eddie47d

      That is your America: devious threatening and controlled at the point of a gun. Comply or die is your motto! If Nugent can say he “never threatened anyone” when he clearly did then I suppose we can say the NBP’s never “put a bounty” on someones head. I would call them both out in attempting to take the law into their own hands.

      • JoMama

        If the great Ted Nugent made a threat to the President of the United States – don’t you think they would have arrested him instead of letting him go free???
        He did nothing wrong or he would be in jail. Period.

      • Robert Smith

        We all know how well that worked out for Zimmerman… Oops, he is in jail for now.

        Rob

      • castaway

        Eddie there is a curious “red dot” on your forehead.

      • angelwannabe

        Oh eddie STUFF A SOCK IN IT

    • Flashy

      Eddie … Ted needed to boost his residuals from old records since they’re trsh…and what better way than to con the simplistic thinking troops of the TP ?

      • http://stillguns7938@yahoo.com Jack Evans

        Yep heres another blind deaf lefty liberal fokkowing his parts bidding, with all the mistruths, and all out lies. Guess like the bible says, God please forgive them, for they no not whaqt they do, or in your case, maybe you do know the truth, but, are to stupid to speak it.

      • Flashy

        Ummmm…what was in error? Nugent has no talent…that’s recognized. His sales are down and his oly perofrmances are for corporate parties etc. And since he stated the inflammmatory statements, his sales have gone up. what conclusion would you come to?

        If people weren’t listening to his music beforehand…they certainly won’t buy the music today to listen to it now. He’s fleeciong the TPers and laughing all the way to the bank. He found his gold mine…

      • castaway

        Plop plop, fiz fiz, oh what a relief it is Flashy. You are gone Hope you like the swirly.

      • Opal the Gem

        Flushy says Nugents sales are down. So are the sales of every other rock group from his era with the possible exception of The Band since Levon passed away so that proves NOTHING.

        Flushy the proven many times over lier.

      • angelwannabe

        flushed__- You said “Ummmm…what was in error? Nugent has no talent”

        Well buddy, if the Nuge is a no talent, I can pratically garan-dam-tee-ya he’s made more money in his life time, than you are old,__ being a paid troll to post on here can’t pay well…….

      • Vigilant

        Flush, you need only change one word in your comment, i.e., “[Obama] has no talent…that’s recognized. His sales are down and his oly [sic] perofrmances [sic] are for corporate parties etc. And since he stated the inflammmatory statements, his sales have gone up. what conclusion would you come to?”

    • CJ

      Maybe we can get Ted and Jesse Ventura on tour together?? Call it the “Rock ‘m’ and Sock ‘m’ Tour!!!!”

      • CLH

        Exactly- they can knock each other out! Wonderful show that would be! Then we could watch the reality show for the cross addicted blow hards- Rush and Glen- to name only 2 hatemongers.

    • Dale on the left coast

      Eddy, Flash and Rob . . . you are all the “useful Idiots” that Lenin was so fond of . . .
      There have been numerous much more direct, distasteful comments and threats from your fellow travelers like Fartican, Jackson, Sharpy and other lieberal loons . . . your silence has been deafening.
      The Nuge is right . . . the country is on the line in November . . . a vote for a Dumbocrap is a vote to become GREECE ! ! !

      • Robert Smith

        Dale blathers on: “distasteful comments and threats from your fellow travelers like Fartican, Jackson, Sharpy and other lieberal loons . . ”

        How many doctors have been killed by the left?

        How many clinics have been blown up by the left?

        How many wars have been started by the left?

        Clue: Obama has gotten us OUT if Iraq and what was in Libia was done by others and we only helped. Oh, and he did get Bin Laden.

        Rob

    • Meteorlady

      Eddie – didn’t I just read that Obama signed a change to the Secret Service protecal that now allows them to designate non-free speech areas? Didn’t I just read that Homeland Security bought 450 MILLION rounds of ammo – hollow points? Aren’t various liberal organizations (mostly owned by Soros) buying up arms manufacturers? Didn’t Georgia Arms go out of business because the government quit allowing them to process shell casings and gave that business to the Chinese?

      • Robert Smith

        No Meteorlady, you are wrong again with your implication. Georgia Arms did NOT go out of business. Google Georgia Arms and you can see their website. (I’m not putting it here because I only want to put one link in this post.)

        No brass was sent to China. The decision was quickly reversed and things are pretty much the same as they were all along.

        “Georgia Arms posted on its Web site that it was notified at 4:30 p.m. March 17, that the policy had been reversed,”

        Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-04-18/story/fact-check-ammunition-resale-policy-was-revised#ixzz1shJa2RjE

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        Meteorlady is WRONG again. So many right wingers, so few facts…

        “NRA has had contact with officials from Cerberus and Freedom Group for some time,” the NRA assured its members. “The owners and investors involved are strong supporters of the Second Amendment and are avid hunters and shooters.”

        Soros isn’t behind the Freedom Group, but, ultimately, another financier is: Stephen Feinberg, the chief executive of Cerberus.

        Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/03/BUJ91M4HL0.DTL&ao=all#ixzz1shL5aTnm

        Rob

      • Meteorlady

        OK so the decision was reversed – because people commented and the system of writing congressional reps worked.

      • Robert Smith

        Meteorlady says: “because people commented and the system of writing congressional reps worked.”

        Yup, contrary to what you implied in your post, thus demonstrating the willingness of the extreme right to simply go negative. Thanks for your fine example.

        Now, about THE PEOPLE demanding action from the government, what’s your position on THE PEOPLE not allowing a “stand your ground” defense to work out of hand for the police? Remember, it’s THE PEOPLE who spoke.

        Oops, maybe is wasnt the “RIGHT” people, hun meteorlady?????

        Rob

  • Vigilant

    Ahhh, the leftist speech and thought police are alive and well. Re Nugent’s statement, ““we need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November.”

    I find it amusing that the left is so fond of making the claim that liberals are, on average, smarter than Conservatives, and then turn around and interpret that statement literally. Like the statements regarding “targeting” or using the term “in the crosshairs,” IT’S CALLED “METAPHOR,” DUMMIES!

    Of course, the propagandists of the left know this. It’s only when THEY make these kinds of statements that we must interpret them metaphorically.

    • Robert Smith

      Vigilant points out: “IT’S CALLED “METAPHOR,” DUMMIES!”

      Really? Then all those claims that Obama was a dog, snake, etc. are FALSE.

      On the other hand, if one believes in transsubstantian THEN the actual body is being eaten and the actual blood is being drunk.

      Looks like some of them there christians are cannibals. Ewwwwwww…

      Rob

      • Vigilant

        What a hoot! Leave it to Rob to gratuitously bring religion into the thread.

        Rob’s thought process was which one of the following:

        a. I have no response that is germane to the conversation

        b. Here’s a chance to exercise my Alinsky skills and try to divert the conversation into the weeds

        c. This is a great opportunity to show my ignorance by equating the word “metaphor” with the term “false.”

        d. I must once again hammer down the Christians at every opportunity, regardless of trend of preceding comments

        e. All of the above

        P.S. If your going to use the five dollar word “transubstantiation” then at least spell it correctly.

      • http://aol bob robbins

        Who in the hell said the mulatto was a dog or snake???????? He ATE them a=hole,

      • sook young

        Why do you lie Robert? I really feel sorry for a lost soul like you. Why do you always talk about things you don’t know or understand? Ted did not mention anything about religion. How is the hope and change that Obama promised in 2008 working for you? I have seen our community lose so many jobs since 2009 and not see any of them return. Why do you always show your hate for God and for this country? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • Robert Smith

        sook asks: “Why do you always show your hate for God and for this country? ”

        I love America as a Goldwater Conservative. Remember, he was the original conservative who said keep government out of the personal lives of folks. He was pro-choice and didn’t worry about gays in the military.

        As for your brutal god… Any god that KILLS all of humanity except Noah and his flock and blows up cities and saves the insestuious Lott and his daughters isn’t one I would ever consider liking. A brutal god that uses fear and intimidation to rule just isn’t worthy of respect.

        Rob

      • JimH

        Bob Smith(BS), What does ridiculing billions of people’s religion have to do with this topic?
        I’m glad you do because it just shows others your LACK of credibility.
        Have a great afterlife.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Vigilant, guys like Rob, falsy, Alex etc, I’ll even include the always “clueless” eddie, make it too easy don’t they? Same game different day!

      • Robert Smith

        Jim H says: “Have a great afterlife.”

        Prove there is one.

        Rob

      • JimH

        BS, Prove there isn’t.
        If there is try to have a good one.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Robert, if you actually READ the bible you would understand what it is saying. But as usual, you don’t read anything and gain knowledge for yourself, you simply open your mouth and vomit out the crap you heard from someone else!

      • Vigilant

        JeffH says, “Vigilant, guys like Rob, falsy, Alex etc, I’ll even include the always “clueless” eddie, make it too easy don’t they? Same game different day!”

        You’re right. I wish sometimes that they would actually have some meat in their comments that would make for intelligent conversation. Shooting fish in a barrel becomes tiresome after awhile.

        I think there’s some hope for karolyn and eddie, though. We find ourselves in agreement on rare occasions, and they sporadically show a glimmer of real cognitive ability.

        Don’t forget Coal Miner, denniso, jopa and Eric Bischoff on the list; they are the hopelessly programmed communist “true believers” who will give up their “Rules for Radicals” book only when their cold, dead fingers are pried from it.

        And then there’s the comic side of things with GALT and Bob Wire/deerinwater/deerinheadlights. They are amusing to watch because they must fancy themselves either poets or great seers/sages/soothsayers remaining above the fray. They get on flights of fancy sometimes, meandering through the ethereal heights with philosophic observations and obscure references that more often than not leave the reader with the thought “WTF?”

      • Robert Smith

        Nancy says: “Robert, if you actually READ the bible you would understand what it is saying.”

        I have read it. It’s an interesting fantasy. It’s not as organized as a Harry Potter book and the language is certainly stilted but it was entertaining.

        The part where Lot got drunk and had sex with his daughters in a cave sure opened my eyes. Why was he worth saving?

        Then there was Jacob, Rqachel, Leah, and Zilpah.

        .And Onan made it clear that one doesn’t need a date to have fun! BTW, female masturbation never comes up in the bible. Guess it’s OK because they don’t spill any seed.

        Rob

      • Meteorlady

        Does it actually make you feel superior to insult Chritians and people that like a good steak? If so, you are in needs of some help.

        I’m sorry, but in my community it’s the Christians that are the back bone. They do all the charitble work. Our county is about 50,000 people and we are on our 61st Habitat house in 11 years. Our mentor programs has 27 promising college graduates and we have 108 in college right now. We all work for no money, not even the people that run the charities take a salary.

        What actually do you do to better your community?

      • Vigilant

        Rob says, “I love America as a Goldwater Conservative. Remember, he was the original conservative who said keep government out of the personal lives of folks. He was pro-choice and didn’t worry about gays in the military.”

        Just FYI, Goldwater was a Christian.

        And you are wrong again. The Founders were “the original conservative[s] who said keep government out of the personal lives of folks.” They were both Christians and Deists. Got a problem with that too?

      • Robert Smith

        “FYI, Goldwater was a Christian.”

        Yup, a christian who was pro-choice and didn’t have a problem with gays in the military.

        So’s Bishop Spong a christian, even though there are those around here who deny that.

        See, it’s YOUR brutal god I don’t like. Apparently there is more than one christian god. Most christians I’ve met are kind and want to help others. Shucks the catholics build whole hospitals to take care of folks. So do the Shriners, but I know they aren’t all christian.

        They also use the bible but for some reason they don’t use it for hate.

        Rob

      • Meteorlady

        Once more does it make you feel good to insult Christians and what do you do for your community and local charities?

      • Robert Smith

        Metorlady asks: “Once more does it make you feel good to insult Christians”

        Actually as I look at christians like Bishop Spong and compare them to folks who call themselves “christians” like the Westbouro Baptist Church (remember, “god hates fags”) I tend to think Bishop Spong as a christian and those who CLAIM to be christians, but deny basic human rights like equality in marriage (it’s a civil cerimoony in America between two people), and who insist that gays are evil, etc… Well, I just don’t see them as anything christian but in self proclaimed name.

        “and what do you do for your community and local charities?”

        None of your business.

        It has absolutely NO relevance to the fact that some christians are every so proud of the hate THEY spew in the name of their brutal god.

        BTW, it’s very clear in the ten commandments that when that brutal christian god (as opposed to one who allows all humans to be respected and respectful) that there is more than one god when he proclaims that no others should be before him in order to be one of his followers.

        Rob

    • Flashy

      Vig….that wasn’t the comment that called Nugesnt to task.

      • Vigilant

        Oh no? Trying to change the obvious again?

        If you mean the “I will be dead or in jail” if Barack Obama is re-elected” comment, then you are wrong again. Let’s see if we can translate that for your pedestrian mind. It’s an obviously defensive speculation that this government is so corrupt and criminally inclined that it might see fit to incarcerate or assassinate him (Nugent) to get him out of the way.

        The SS certainly didn’t interpret that as a threat to the president or they would have arrested him immediately.

        Does that clear the cobwebs for you?

  • b sims

    This ass needs to shut up .He’s no patriot. He’s anti-American. People like him are (very cheap) pawns of the Koch brothers. This country will always be stuck where it is until people like him see the real truth and speak out for the real Americans- Not as a puppet for the oil industry.

    • Vigilant

      How about citing something he said that is “anti-American” instead of using generalities and conjecture?

    • Sirian

      Please explain who the “real Americans” are. Can you do that or are you advancing in your profession of slinging BS? More than likely BS, does has that odd indoctrinated odor about it.

      • http://stillguns7938@yahoo.com Jack Evans

        Is this your name ,or your home country? If its your nme , its a pi## poor choice for a name. If its your country of origin, then, theres no need for any further discussion. It speaks for itself. Either way, wake up and see the daylight.

      • Vigilant

        Sirian, don’t mind the ignorant blathering of another leftist. He isn’t aware that the words “Syrian” and “sirian” are spelled differently. LOL!

    • vanessa

      I doubt Ted has any interest in the oil industry hes a hunter and a rocker who LOVES America enough to put himself out there. Ted is rough but I agree with his thoughts 100%

      • eddie47d

        Most rockers don’t bring automatic weapons to a rock concert and most hunters are respectful of what they kill.(need and sport vs thrill kill) Most rockers don’t violently threaten the President and neither do most hunters.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Notice how when the liberals enter into a conversation about a conservative, they always say that they’re involved with the Koch brothers? Seriously, you guys need a new repertoire. This ones getting old. Are you just too stupid to think for yourself? Can’t think of anything substantial to say? So you pull out that old tired one? Honestly, not all conservatives can be linked to the Koch brothers. Why don’t you do some reading so that you’ll have something new to say? Then you won’t sound like such an idiot!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie again speaks liberal ignorance through his glutias maximus.

        Nugent brings automatic weapons to his concerts? Of course you can prove that idiotic statement.

        Nugent has no resect for the animals he kills. Quite the contray…he’s rather spiritual about it…thus “The Spirit of the Wild” and “Backstrap Fever”!

        The Nugents, Ted, Shemane and their two sons, fill their freezers with wild game for their own enjoyment as well as for donating to charity organizations (and they help cook and serve those meals, as well). “Vegetarians are cool. All I eat are vegetarians,” says Ted. They consider that their quality of life is determined by the number of spiritual BBQ orgies they share with family and friends. They “don’t waste hunger on junk food.” Health is a gift of God and the Nugents “demand the best for the beast within.” Fresh is the key and in his rules for the hunt are ‘Clean, Cold, and Fresh’: clean the carcass properly in the field; keep it as cold as possible before aging, cooking or freezing; serve in a timely manner and don’t overcook!

        With each stroke of the basting brush and with every turn of each piece of food, exciting flashes of the hunt and ever-stimulating animal encounters come flooding forth. Each wind is relived. Every wild birdsong re-echoes. The pulse quickens as if the shot were about to take place again. When one responsibly procures his family’s dinner by hand, each meal becomes a sacred rite, and the reality of life and death is undeniable. It is good, and so is the feast.”

        Tribe Nugent hasn’t bought domestic flesh since 1969. Ted grows his own vegetables, plays his own music, plants his own trees, cuts his own wood, and “breeds his own wife.”

      • Meteorlady

        Then why didn’t he enter the military and join his fellow soldiers in Vietnam? He was a draft dodger. He got out on a student deferrment, but traveled extensively doing concerts – all while attending college full time. He also gave an interview to the Detroit Free Press telling them how he dodged the draft…. You people need to read the history of Ted. He a great marketer and likes the spot light. Did it every occur that it might be an act?

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Meteorlady? Ted’s a “DRAFT DODGER”? Ted had two deferments during that era…as did millions of others. Does that make them all draft dogers too?

        I-Y
        Registrant available for military service, but qualified for military only in the event of war or national emergency.

        II-S
        Registrant deferred because of activity in study I guess I’m a draft doger too because I was classified 1-H.

        I was 1-H “Registrant not currently subject to processing for induction” Does that mean I was a draft doger too?

      • Robert Smith

        From Nancy: “Notice how when the liberals enter into a conversation about a conservative, they always say that they’re involved with the Koch brothers? ”

        Hmmmmmm, then you right wingers will stop the claim of how Obama is affiliated with Saul Alinsky?

        Gonna give up on the baseless Bill Ayers claims?

        Didn’t think so.

        BTW, for a different point of view than the right wing check out: http://www.kochbrothersexposed.com/

        Pretty much anyone who supports them supports the gutting of America by the 1%.

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        JeffH asks: “Ted’s a “DRAFT DODGER”? Ted had two deferments during that era…as did millions of others. Does that make them all draft dogers too?”

        Don’t know… What do you think about Bill Clinton not serving?

        Rob

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Robert, the problem here is that leftists “claim” that all conservatives are linked to the Koch brothers. NOT TRUE! When a conservative claims that obama trained under saul alinsky and bill ayers that IS TRUE! You don’t get to make up lies to counter truths! Instead of just opening your mouth and spouting off crap, do some reading and stop the lies!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Robert Smith asks what I think about Clinton not serving?

        You mean former POTUS W.J. CLINTON? Isn’t he the guy that went to England and protested protested the war? You mean the guy who passed the military physical exam and recieved not one, but two induction notices to report in 1969. The same guy that claimed, the first notice, that the draft board told him to ignore the notice because it arrived after the deadline for induction?

        The second notice, the guy that was given a special slot in the Naval Reserve but failed to report?

        According to the LA Times, “after about two weeks waiting for Bill Clinton to arrive for his preliminary interview and physical exam, Lt. Comdr. Trice Ellis, Jr., commanding officer of the local Navy reserve unit said he called (Clinton’s uncle) Raymond to inquire – ‘What happened to that boy?’ According to Ellis, Clinton’s uncle replied – ‘Don’t worry about it. He won’t be coming down. “It’s all been taken care of.’ ”
        –[LA Times Sep 02 92]

        Answer: Had’t really give it much thought…how ’bout you?

      • Buster the Anatolian

        clinton was friends with Senator Fulbright so he could do whatever he damned well pleased.

      • Vigilant

        Rob “Hate the Christians” Smith says, “Hmmmmmm, then you right wingers will stop the claim of how Obama is affiliated with Saul Alinsky?”

        Uh, Alinsky is dead, Rob. No one claims that Obama is channeling him.

        Then, “Gonna give up on the baseless Bill Ayers claims?”

        And you call Christians delusional? You’ve got voluminous DOCUMENTED FACTS staring you in the face about the Ayers-Obama connection. You are indeed one of those so blind they WILL not see. Any claims to rationality and objectivity on your part are hereby demolished.

        P.S. Have you learned to spell “transubstantiation” correctly yet (three strikes and you’re out)?

      • Robert Smith

        Let’s watch Nancy lie: “When a conservative claims that obama trained under saul alinsky and bill ayers that IS TRUE! ”

        No it isn’t.

        Fact: August 4, 1961 is when Obama was born.

        Fact: June 12, 1972 is when Saul Alinsky died.

        Are you claiming that an 11-year old Obama sat at the knee of Saul… And! to complicate things more was Saul in Kenya? What you are saying about Sal and Obama just isn’t true.

        The whole thing with Bill Ayers is a contrivance by the extreme right.

        BTW, if you can believe the Christian Science Monitor “FreedomWorks, the tea party group headed by former Republican House leader Dick Armey, gives copies of “Rules for Radicals” to its leaders. “His tactics when it comes to grass-roots organizing are incredibly effective,” FreedomWorks spokesman Adam Brandon told The Wall Street Journal. Tea partyers aggressively confronting lawmakers at town hall meetings is straight from Alinsky’s playbook.”

        That’s from: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2012/0128/Who-is-Saul-Alinsky-and-why-is-Newt-Gingrich-so-obsessed-with-him/(page)/2

        Saul Alinsky’s book is studied just as “The Art of War” is studied. They are an insight to human nature and a how to guide for achieving some goals.

        BTW, what’s so bad about Saul Alinsky? He’s just a Jewish guy working with the poor in a effort to make things better. I think I’ve heard a story like that somewhere else…

        Rob

      • Meteorlady

        See here’s the deal Jeff – Nugent gave an interview to the Detroit Free Press saying he did not bath for 30 days, lived on caffine and something else for 10 days, had unrine and crap on his clothing. He also says he had a student pass but during that time he was continously on the road performing. When did he go to school and when, if ever, did he get his degree?

      • Meteorlady
      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Robert Smitha again asks a question and then again conveniently ignores the answer…because it doesn’t suit him. “YAWN”!

    • sook young

      Why do you sound like a liberal site instead of being rational? Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      • Robert Smith

        Sook asks: “Why do you sound like a liberal site instead of being rational?”

        Do you call believing in an invisible god that killed everyone except Noah and his kin “rational?”

        Do you call canabalism “rational?”

        Do you call wearing an execution device on your neck “rational?”

        Do you really want to question the rationality of another sook?

        Rob

    • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

      b Sims, Uh go back to sleep!

    • http://stillguns7938@yahoo.com Jack Evans

      Actually, it sounds to me like you’ve been asleep for a number of years now, or possibly, you’re one of the sightless deaf, and stupid left wing liberals, who for what ever reasons, don’t have the ability, to look and see daylight, but, instead just listen to their Democrap leaders, and never question the real truth. That truth, i n this case being, that Nugent just happens to be one of the most patriotic ammericans , still aliv. Wake up will you?

      • Meteorlady

        Gads – I expect to see comments like yours on Yahoo by the liberal childern. They hold the record for insults and name calling. Intelligent conservatives don’t need to insult – there are enough facts to point to in order to make a case…..

      • Robert Smith

        Posted: “Intelligent conservatives don’t need to insult – there are enough facts to point to in order to make a case…..”

        Really? Then you denounce those from the right who call others “morons?”

        Golly gee, I saw on this very forum the use of “democraps” and “librotards.”

        Seems they ain’t true “conservatives” by your standards.

        Or, are you gonna allow it because they are having “fun” at the expense of others and having “fun” and being nasty are OK rather than posting facts?

        Rob

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Meteorlady and Robert Smith, no matter what intelligent discourse or words the Conservatives used, you still would not listen or like them. You would be contrary just to be contrary.

      • Debra Myers

        I was a big Ted Nugent fan. I thought he stood by the second ammendment. And then he endorsed ROMNEY! Mitt Romney is no champion of the second ammendment and believes in gun control! Romney and Obama are the same smell! The same money backs them, they both support the Patriot Act, NDAA, Bail-outs, the Federal Reserve & unconstitutional wars. Just like the Republican Party, Nugent has betrayed us. He is a fraud. Good music but doesn’t have much upstairs when it comes to supporting Liberty.

      • Vigilant

        Rob Smith says, “Then you denounce those from the right who call others “morons?”

        Why should they be denounced? It would be an insult to call an intelligent person a moron. Calling a moron a moron is a statement of fact.

      • Meteorlady

        Have you ever seen me call someone a name? I believe that I live up to the fact that everyone deserves respect even if they are quoting the wrong “facts”. It called being respectful and not insulting or name calling to make yourself appear to be superior to others. It’s about truth and the ability to prove the truth you have commented.

      • Meteorlady

        “As patriotic as Uncle Ted claims to be, he pulled a nasty stunt to evade Uncle Sam during the Vietnam War. In a July 15, 1990, Detroit Free Press interview, Nugent crowed about how he managed to dodge the draft. He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he disavowed personal hygiene. The last ten days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and with a week to go until the physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether. When the big day came, he had been living in excrement-caked and urine-stained pants. Always the hero, however, Nugent reassured the Free Press, “But if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed all the Hippies in the foxholes. I would have killed everybody.”

        Here’s the link to the article…..
        http://www.campusprogress.org/articles/ted_nugent

      • Meteorlady

        Nadzieja Batki – obviously you have not been on this site long enough to know that I am a Libertarian. I like facts, not fiction and I abhor name calling, insulting and lack of respect for other posters. I merely commented that I don’t usualy see Conservatives calling names or insulting other’s comments. We do still have free speech in this country.

        As for Nugent – I agree that he is mostly correct, but I still believe he’s out for a good bit of notoriaty and money – you need to view someone like Nugent from all angles to actually see where they are coming from. I merely stated from an article he gave himself in his own words.

  • jopa

    No apologies were given because that is not what the Secret Service was asking for.The were trying to figure out where this drug crazed freak was coming from and what his intentions were.He actually did come out whimpering and said I never threatened anyone.He now knows where he stands in this story and I am sure he will tone down his ignorance somewhat.The Secret Service is not made up of wimps but former and current military heroes of the United States of America.I believe they really scared the crap out of this guy when he didn’t have is guns or dogs to protect him he is such a chicken sh–.

    • Vigilant

      Huff Post:

      “The issue has been resolved,” agency spokesman Brian Leary said in a statement. “The Secret Service does not anticipate any further action.”

      In a statement on his website, Nugent called it a “good, solid, professional meeting concluding that I have never made any threats of violence towards anyone.”

      “The meeting could not have gone better,” he said. “I thanked them for their service, we shook hands and went about our business. Godbless the good federal agents wherever they may be.”

      Nugent said he was just speaking figuratively when he made what some perceived to be threats against Obama and that he didn’t threaten anyone’s life or advocate violence.

      “Metaphors needn’t be explained to educated people,” he said.”

      As per my earlier post above, the SS wasted our money chasing an obvious metaphor.

      Now, in your jaundiced leftist mind, you may have considered his explanation as “whimpering” or “scared.” The sane people on this forum see it for what it was, a tutoring of the SS agents on the dictionary definition of “metaphor.”

      • Flashy

        Nice spin by Nugent as he was taken to the woodshed and beaten around his head. Did you expect anything other than a chastized Nugent trying to put a spin on the meeting knowing the SS would not comment?

      • Vigilant

        “The issue has been resolved,” agency spokesman Brian Leary said in a statement. “The Secret Service does not anticipate any further action.”

        Does it ever enter your myopic thinking that they didn’t arrest him because he did nothing wrong?

      • Flashy

        Just because the Secret Service interviews you does not mean automatic arrest. Though technically, what Nugent said was probably indictable..

      • Vigilant

        Technically, he was indictable?

        Son, are you a Secret Sevice agent? Or a legal scholar?

        Don’t assert anything unless you can back it up. C’mon, be different for a change and do just that.

    • StarvinLarry

      Nugent does not,and has never been “drug crazed” when he ran his Michigan hunting camp for inner city-youth-no drugs of any kind were allowed-not even aspirin-the only exceptions were for insulin,or other meds that have to be taken regularly.
      Nugent supports gun rights,but he is primarily a bow hunter-he was friends with Fred Bear-who did more for the sport of archery and bowhunting than anyone else in history.
      If you don’t like the mans comments-ignore them-like the majority of people in this country ignores anything said by the far-left nut cases on MSLSD-who reguraly accuse the right of doing the exact same things the left does-and also continue to spread misinformation about guns and gun laws every chance they get-such as showing pictures of a Browning .50 caliber belt-fed machine gun-and calling it a rifle-or Rachel Maddow’s continued insistence that there are all plastic handguns that can pass through metal detectors.
      MSLSD continues to insist that stand your ground laws,or racism were the cause of the Trayvon Martin shooting-when niether was the cause.
      Nugent,or anyone else on the right who points out the left’s use of misinformation-or use of the same tactics as the right- is instantly labeled a far-right lunatic-a gun nut-or worse.

      • Vigilant

        Absolutely correct!

        The Hollywood Reporter headline of April 18th: “Ted Nugent Calls Himself ‘A Black Jew at Nazi-Klan Rally,’ Stands by Obama Beheading Statement.”

        Now there’s the Alinsky spin in action. In the radio interview, he says, “The Nazis and the Klan hate me. Do you have a black Jew at a Nazi/Clan rally?”

        That’s a far cry from saying he “calls Himself ‘A Black Jew at Nazi-Klan Rally.” The intent, as always, with a headline such as that is to prey on the leftist’s limited proficiency in the English language. For the lefties such as Flashy and jopa, allow me to explain the plain English thrust of what he was saying:

        He’s not saying anything approaching the ludicrous implication that he would attend a Nazi/Clan rally, just the opposite in fact. If you have any reading comprehension you’d see that as plain as day.

        “Obama beheading statement?” That’s an even greater stretch. He never said Obama should be beheaded. Moreover, he said “we need to ride into that battlefield and chop their heads off in November.” Your (jopa and Flashy’s) failure to understand the meaning and obvious intent of metaphor speaks poorly of the left’s abject cluelessness when it comes to the English language.

        Metaphor is used often in poetry. It’s a technique, such as simile, employed to spark the imagination and emotion by drawing an analogy. It is never intended to be literally true, as it would destroy the very soul of poetry itself to do that.

        Now, doesn’t it strike one as strange that the left’s great reliance on appealing to the emotion and imagination, rather than the objective facts and figures, suddenly collapses when faced with a metaphor that doesn’t suit their delicate sensibilities? “NO,” they say, “in this case you MUST accept it as a literal assertion.”

        jopa and Flashy, you’ve now had your daily enlightenment.

        You’re welcome.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        StarvinLarry & Vigilant, thanks! I can’t add anything to what you both said…except that jopa will say anything about anybody, anytime…I know he/she is a proven liar and has no credibility whatsoever. Probably worked for Springer, the Globe or the Enquirer in a past life. falsy’s so well known now that eddie is about the only one that believes him.

      • eddie47d

        Stephan Burke who is a lifetime NRA member spoke out(or joked) to Alexander Zaitchik and 7 others. Said “What do Abe Lincoln,John F Kennedy and Barack Obama have in common”? “Nothing Yet”!. 5 laughed their heads off and three were deeply embarrassed . One gentleman was with his professional sharpshooter daughter who took offense…… Gotta love those assassination jokes!

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie, quite a funny joke, huh…and you do know it was intended that way?

        Now here’s a couple of serious comments about your messiah Obama by a couple of his compatriots…or so we thought.

        Bill Clinton reportedly had Ted Kennedy fuming because Clinton said of Obama, “a few years ago this guy would have been getting us coffee.”

        Or this infamous comment by Harry Reid referring to POTUS Barack Obama as having no “negro dialect”.

        Just sayin’…

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie, who is Stephan Burke besides a member of the NRA? Just so ya know, I support the arrest and prosecution of any person who threatens any president of the United States.

        A reminder…when liberals talked of assassinating GW Bush, were they joking too?

        Guardian columnist 2004 Charlie Brooker’s pre-election diatribe:
        On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod’s law dictates he’ll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. – where are you now that we need you?

        The fact is that people threatened Bush at protests all the time by displaying menacing signs and messages — exactly as the anti-Obama protester just did in Maryland. Yet for reasons that are not entirely clear, none of those Bush-threateners at protests was ever arrested, questioned, or investigated, at least as far as I can tell.

        Death Threats Against Bush at Protests Ignored for Years
        http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

      • Robert Smith

        Awwwwww, thanks for demonstrating how something out of context sure can rile folks up.

        Your “information” came from a book ‘Game Change by American political writers John Heliemann and Mark Halperin.

        The fact is that it was in the heat of an election cycle in the primaries. Everyone appologised to everyone and things are just fine today.

        BTW, it is thought that Clinton’s comment did swing Teddy to Obama.

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        “The fact is that people threatened Bush at protests all the time by displaying menacing signs and messages”

        And to think… Bush seems to have an inclination to do himself harm…

        We were just a pretzel away from losing Bush.

        Rob

    • JoMama

      Not a drug-crazed freak as you call him – he’s been sober since the 70′s.
      He just loves his country, loves his guns, loves his freedom. That’s all.

      • Flashy

        jomama…now THAT is funny !

    • http://stillguns7938@yahoo.com Jack Evans

      Speaking of ignorance, perhaps you should look in thye mirror, and you’ll see right away the classic example of the word. Jeez where do they find these fools. And how do they teach them to read and write?

    • cawmun cents

      Gee jopa….how well informed you are……not.
      Ted was the guy who told Jimi Hendrix to shoot Bambi,and not heroin.
      So much for your”drug crazed”projection of Ted.Ted is a teetotaler,and as straight laced as can be.
      Just goes to show how little you need to know about a subject before you chime in.
      -CC.

  • James Savage

    So, Ted Nugent speaks the truth and the liberal Left has a problem. My question is…Who cares? Come November ALL the liberal Left will be looking for a job…there just won’t be any in Washington, DC for them! What a beautiful day THAT will be!

    • eddie47d

      Where’s the truth? Hell the Mafia threatened people all the time too and followed through on their “metaphors”. I have a problem with all the nutjobs and psycho’s out their thinking their words are less real than the next person. If the NBP’s said they want to “kill cracker babies” (which they never have done) and you take that as the truth then who is to say that Nugent doesn’t mean what he says. Oh yes all metaphors!

      • Vigilant

        Yes, eddie, we all know that the NBP offering a bounty on someone’s head is just “metaphorical.”

        Wake up and smell the tea, bud.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003537466597 Delroy Brown

        You guys will be singing a different tune when law official let terrorist walk on their word that they did not mean what they say and end up taking life. Oh patriotic. ALqueda must be smiling.

      • eddie47d

        Did they act on their bounty Vigilant or was it more smoke blown up by the media. If any of these clowns (Nugent or NBP’s) actually act upon their threats we have some nice jail cells for terrorists here in Colorado.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        eddie, I’m sure they also have a 4 X 8 secure padded cell to protect you from yourself too!

      • Vigilant

        eddie says, “Did they act on their bounty Vigilant or was it more smoke blown up by the media.”

        Did who act on the bounty? The NBP? They already acted when they issued it. They haven’t retracted it, to the best of my knowledge.

        If “they” means black people in general, the question is stupid, and certainly an open one since the bounty still stands.

        And please, eddie, don’t talk about the media blowing this up. It’s obvious, especially in the case of NBC/MSNBC, that the misdirection, provocation, incitement and trying-in-the-media dishonesty has been far and away on the side of condemning Zimmermann.

      • Robert Smith

        There they go again…

        “that the misdirection, provocation, incitement and trying-in-the-media dishonesty has been far and away on the side of condemning Zimmermann.”

        The guy responsible for the edited tape has been fired.

        It is the EVIDENCE that has put Zimmerman in jail.

        He LIED (99% chance anyhow) about screaming for help.

        The “injuries” haven’t been backed up by a hospital repor (produce it if you can… I did a lengthy search for any direct evidence of a hospital report).

        He went “rogue” by both the rules of neighborhood watch (no guns) and he didn’t stand down when he was told police were on the way.

        AND his history came out that he had an assault thing with police and paper floated in a domestic thing.

        And he was fired from his job as a security guard because of his temper.

        NOW he will get his day in court because anyone who looks at it objectively can easily see that a second degree murder charge can be considered proper in this case.

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        To borrow your words, “The courts haven’t settled most of that yet. Your proclimation is NOT the opinion that counts.”

      • Robert Smith

        Awwwww Vigelant: “The courts haven’t settled most of that yet.”

        They don’t need to “settle” that there is a 99% chance that Zimmerman was lying about screaming for help. I just read that the family identified the screaming for help as the kid’s. Combine that with a 99% chance that it IS NOT Zimmerman on the tape and it’s pretty air tight.

        He was carrying a gun against the rules of Neighborhood Watch and he didn’t stand down.

        Etc.

        Those are the facts. What the court needs to decide is if it’s second degree murder when Zimmerman shot the kid.

        Rob

  • dan

    the Nuge makes me want to stand up and shoot !

    • jeepman1

      And, therein lies the rub dan. We must be a better policeman of our own. Statements like “chop their heads off” are unacceptable on a legitimate political forum. Whether it comes from the left or the right. I like Ted, and I like Ted’s music. But, any statements like “dead or in jail” are over the top. Period. We are and have been quick to decry the outrageous statements from the left. If we are not as quick to decry our outrageous comments, then we too are hypocritical. I, for one, am appalled by some of those statements Ted made; metaphorical or no. And, the NRA has only let itself down by not standing for morality and what is right.

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        dead or in jail was nor referring to Obama, but to nugent himself. He means that if Obama steals the election, just as he wil try very hard to do, the nation will be in Civil War and he will be on the front line for the consitution!

      • don

        some people have different ways of coming across. sometimes its taken wrong. it did’nt sound good though.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Gee, who gets to decide what we can say and what we can’t? I thought that The Constitution of The United States guaranteed individuals the right to say anything they want to say! I guess Nugent believes in the constitution and you don’t!!!

      • Meteorlady

        He was referring to himself, not the President. Dead Ted for being outspoken or in jail on some trumped up charge. I remember a few people that died when the Clintons were campaigning and in office.

      • jeepman1

        This is the problem, to himself or not is not the question. Read the rest of his comments. They were over the top. Period. I am not excusing it. What I don’t want is the next time some left wingnut says something stupid or mean-spriited is to hear you guys cry foul. We have to take the moral high ground. And, who is the arbitor of “right and wrong”…not me. But, do you not agree that calling the TEA party nazis, or calling for race wars in Florida is wrong? You lose the moral right to complain when you allow Ted to get away with using some of the same rhetoric.

      • jeepman1

        And, making excuses or saying “what Ted meant was…” is no different than all the excuses we’ve heard from the left of “what Barrack meant to say was…”

        The bottom line is, if you need an interpreter or someone to explain your comments to soften the blow, then maybe you shouldn’t make them in the first place. And, shame on you for excusing bad behaviour.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        See Jeepman, this is the problem with you and you ilk. You believe that everything is open to interpretation. It’s not. Nugent said what he meant. The leftists re interpreted it to mean want they want it to mean. And your examples do nothing to further your position. The leftists DO call the Tea Party, Nazis. It is not a re interpretation. They said it. No one reinterpreted the black panthers when they called for a race war. They SAID it. The real problem comes when one side criticizes what another says versus the other side saying that what they meant was something other than what they said. You’ve got to tell the truth and stop twisting things around to fit your view of things.

      • Robert Smith

        Nancy says: “You believe that everything is open to interpretation. It’s not. Nugent said what he meant. ”

        And those in the room CHEERED!

        So, what makes you so happy that Ted will be dead or in jail?

        I din’t see anything worth cheering about in his statement unless there is another meaning not understood by us unenlightened ones.

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        Rob shows his lack of reading comprehension again, when he says, “So, what makes you so happy that Ted will be dead or in jail?”

        The happiness was over the prospect that Obama would not be re-elected. Take an English course, get a new pair of glasses or a new brain.

  • chuck

    Nice going, Nuge! You threw it out there. Now the PRESIDINK can chew on some truth for a change. God knows there’s been little-to-none up till now. “Criminals” is too kind a word for the likes of Pelosi, Obama, Biden, Bernanke, Geithner, Dimon, Blankfein, Corzine, and this list grows by the day. Ron Paul is our only ray of hope in this calamitous time.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003537466597 Delroy Brown

      What about Romney?

      • Robert Smith

        Get ready for universal health care like MA.

        Obama couldn’t do what Romney has already done.

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        Romneycare is Constitutional (though wrong), Obamacare is unconstitutional.

      • Robert Smith

        The courts haven’t settled most of that yet. Your proclimation is NOT the opinion that counts.

        BTW, how would you suggest that everyone have access to health care in America like all the other first wold countries and Cuba (which is on par with American health care).

        Rob

  • FreedomFighter

    Ted Nugent insulting Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYmFAwhmqaU

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • http://yahoo BountyHunter

    To Flash, CC and Eddie
    So what if he did threaten the president??? Big deal!

    • Flashy

      Bunty…if i said if you’d still be in your job by this time next year i’ll be dead or in jail…I do not believe for a second you’d not take that as a dangerous threat and watch me with caution.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Flashy, Nugent was obviously implying that because he speaks his mind, “they” (obama’s people) would either kill him or lock him up. It is a legitimate statement. You can twist his words all you want but that won’t change their meaning. I for one, will not let anyone try to brainwash me into thinking that up means down or yes means no. His word’s speak for themselves and we don’t need you or anyone else to “define” them for us.

      • Dale on the left coast

        Pull your head out flashy . . . it must be hard to breathe . . . . you are a perfect example of what is wrong with the education system in the US . . . you missed the “Reading with Understanding” segment . . . LOL
        Only an english language challanged loon could come to the conclusions you do ! ! !

  • http://yahoo BountyHunter

    To: Flashy, CC & Eddie:

    If OBAMA is reelected I’LL BE DEAD OR IN JAIL. So did I just threaten the Prez??? All I can say is “Big deal if he did” Couldn’t happen to a better Socialist (Obama). By the way Flash, CC, Eddie. What branch of service do you profess to be in??

    • Flashy

      Bounty..i don’t work for the government. i don’t profess to be in any service….

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You are a word twister and you direct the flow of responses on this forum as well as manipulate emotions. By your latest posts you have been failing to get the outbursts that you want.

      • Meteorlady

        That’s because we usually ignore Flashy’s rants…..

    • cawmun cents

      Politcal Activism…..paid performers.
      Couldnt you tell?
      -CC.

      • Average Joe

        And….obviously they’ve been overpaid (if they’ve been paid anything at all)…just sayin’

      • Robert Smith

        Note: It’s clear that the extreme right has often exhausted any ligitimate arguments or even discussion. They simply degenerate into nasty ad hominem attacks.

        Thank you for so many fine examples aroun here.

        Rob

      • Meteorlady

        So Robert – the left calls me racist (I’m a Sioux)… the left insults religion and the right to bear arms. The left has give every single Indian sitting the reservations an excuse to fail and many just give up and believe that they are subhuman. The left labels me a “minority” which is a term that any responsible citizen of this country should find insulting and degrading as I do.

        So I have seen you attack religious beliefs here again and again and you have stuped to insults which I suppose you believe to be clever….

      • Vigilant

        “ad hominem attacks” on Christianity, thy name is Robert Smith.

      • Robert Smith

        Have I posted anything false about you brutal god?

        Fact is he is given credit for killing everyone but Noah and his clan.

        How is stating a FACT an attack?

        I point out ritualistic (or perhaps real if one believes the magic of transsubstanciation) canibalism and all the right can do to challenge it is to worry about spelling.

        Let’s see… Spelling corrections vs. pointing out the brutality in a god and what appears to be a ghastly practice by his followers.

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        From http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

        “Translated from Latin to English, “Ad Hominem” means “against the man” or “against the person.”

        “An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of “argument” has the following form:

        “Person A makes claim X.
        Person B makes an attack on person A.
        Therefore A’s claim is false.”

        Your continued gratuitous insertion of anti-Christian claims, even (and especially so) when the topic of conversation is completey different, is absolutely the lowest form of attack there can be. You are attacking those who believe differently than you do, solely because they believe that way. Are they reasoned, philosophical or theological arguments? No, they are the rantings of a person who obviously has a BIG ax to grind and who never got over the news that Santa Claus isn’t real.

        Congratulations, Rob, you’ve now spelled “transubstantiation” wrong three times in a row! YOU’RE OUT! What an idiot.

      • Robert Smith

        Another silly claim from the extreme right: “You are attacking those who believe differently than you do, solely because they believe that way.”

        If the “way” is to impose that religion upon others who want nothing to do with it I am guilty.

        I oppose the RELIGIOUS efforts to deny women choice in issues concerning their very own bodies.

        I oppose the RELIGIOUS efforts to deny those close to death a dignified exit of their choice with a doctor’s help.

        I oppose the RELIGIOUS efforts to claim America to be theirs as if no other beliefs are held in America.

        I oppose the RELIGIOUS efforts to deny same sex couples the civil contract of marriage. Guys like Gingrich talk about “family values” and then go through wives like they are kleenex.

        I oppose the RELIGIOUS efforts of take over American schools and teach garbage like creationism.

        If along the way I get to point out FACTS about that religion, like the FACT that many wear an execution device on a chain around their neck, practice at least ritualized canibalism, and go around as if THEY are the only good thing about America I’m gonna play.

        BTW, you haven’t refuted anything I’ve posted. All you can do is complain about it and attack me rather than the issues. Thanks for so many examples. Keep ‘em comming.

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        “BTW, you haven’t refuted anything I’ve posted. All you can do is complain about it and attack me rather than the issues. Thanks for so many examples. Keep ‘em comming [sic].”

        You are indeed dumber than dirt. You still haven’t figured out that yes, indeed, I’m attacking you personally! I make no bones about it.

        Get it through that noggin of yours that I’m not going to engage in a point-by-point sophomoric argument with you about the Bible, sonny. If that’s what you expected (and I’m sure it is) then you will be sadly disappointed.

        The thrust of my comments to you, had you been perceptive and intelligent enough to comprehend it, is that you have done what you do every time you think you have an opportunity, and often when you don’t: you gratuitously insert your same anti-Bible screeds simply to provoke a response. Doesn’t matter whether or not the trend of conversation has anything to do with it.

        It’s obvious to everyone but you that you have a serious, bitter, pathological scorn for Christians who don’t happen to subscribe to your particular set of beliefs. To you, they are stupid literalists, hypocrites and imbeciles who haven’t been “enlightened” by your oh-so-holier-than-thou superior knowledge. And instead of plying the art of gentle persuasion, you adopt the tack of insult and derision.

        Whatever your set of beliefs is, it is certain that tolerance, kindness and civility are not among them

        Merriam Webster: “Persecution”:

        1: to harass or punish in a manner designed to injure, grieve, or afflict; specifically : to cause to suffer because of belief
        2: to annoy with persistent or urgent approaches (as attacks, pleas, or importunities) : pester

        Yes, by all means, call mine a personal attack. You are not a decent human being.

      • Robert Smith

        “Politcal Activism…..paid performers.”

        You mean like the tea party baggers who disrupted community meetings? Tactics from the top they were.

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        ROFL… From the extreme right: “you gratuitously insert your same anti-Bible screeds…”

        Really? What have I posted isn’t a fact? Oh, that’s right you aren’t denying it’s fact. You just gripe that I post it.

        Noah’s family seems to be the only human survivers after a flood. Isn’t that kinda brutal by any standards?

        Lot having sex with his kids? The mirricle is that he was able to have sex after drinking enough wine that he didn’t recognize his own daughters.

        If pointing out FACTS (after all it is a execution device so many wear around their necks) is a “screed”… Really?

        Facts. I don’t need to do a “screed.”

        Now, go chow down on your savior like a good little christian. oh well… I couldn’t help myself with that one. You know, since you made i so personal and all, I thoght I might give you some personal suggestion.

        Rob

    • cawmun cents

      How did I get lumped in with Flashy and eddie47d?
      You must be new to this blogsite.
      Please do not confuse me with leftists and progressives.
      Thanks,
      -CC.

      • cawmun cents

        I have been a Nugent fan since BEFORE it was cool to be a Nugent fan.
        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • eddie47d

        That’s your loss and an even bigger one now if you follow through on his thinking.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      BountyHunter, CC is one of our own. Come more often to this site and read for yourself.

  • don

    some of you people talk crap, on him. he put out records and was successful at. i was about 19 years old when cat scratch fever came out and i liked it. in his day he was at the top at the time. now he’s into hunting and him and his wife have successful businesses. watch the hunting channels sometime. you’ll se him on at times. i don’t think a big deal should be made of what he says. some people have strange ways of getting across to others. jesse ventura was that way too. i think he stepped on a lot of toes as governor of minnesota.compared to our representives and presiidents they are a step above when it comes to this country. i’ d like to think i’m in the same group. so is ron paul. most people think it does’t matter what happens life goes on. that could be changed by the vote. it could eliminate the beauty padgent atmosphere election orcestrated by the elitists. the best candidate is shut out by the media who are owned by the big money. ron paul is proof. i wish that if he does not win the republican nomination that he run independent and the voters that are blinded by the big money beauty padgent vote for him. i think he stands for real change. maybe the end of the degrading of this country and the destrucdtion of our money. while we’re at it lets start working on getting all of the puppets out of congress. check out the video “the obama deception” online. it says some thing in it about who choose our presidents. lots of other things to wake you up.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Sooooo when you go into the voting booth, vote for the person you’ve never heard of.

  • 2WarAbnVet

    I note that the inanity of our friend Flashy is fully on display on his post. Ignorance combined with loathsomeness is best ignored.

    • Flashy

      That’s exactly why you’re ignored 2War ……

      • rtringgo

        But you DIDN’T ignore him, did you? Nice try.

  • don

    why not push for to get behind the illegal fast and furious investigation to be solved long before the election and keep the obama duplicat hillary clinton out. them mexico could extradite holder and obunhole to stand trial for accessories to murder of mexican citizen. i read something a few days ago about how the was a witness in the investigation and the whitehous was fighting it. koinda tells us obunhole has a lopt to hide. bring it on. then start impeachment. keep our guns. real gun control would come with making penalties for using a gun in a crime taken to the max and scaring people away from using guns in crimes. we’d probly see a huge reduction in crime. why should innocent citizens pay the price for criminals who make up problyless than 1 percent of 1% of the population. what happened to freedom of the masses that the wanna be communist dictator is trying to rob. i wonder if the law is going to investigate all opinions

  • http://stillguns7938@yahoo.com Jack Evans

    In answer to flashy, don’t know you, and dont wnt to, but a litlle note of sensability for you. You probably wouldn’t want to make an effort to take Nugent to the wood shed at all. Afraid that you would be in for a very big surprise. Theres no doubt about who would end up with their hiney being a little difficult to sit on for a while.

    • Flashy

      Whatever Sparky

  • sabulaman

    Ted Nugent for PRESIDENT!

    • Meteorlady

      OMG……

    • CLH

      President— of the Loony Tune Showcase of Characters! Round up the Right Wing Nuts and send them to Alaska with the diva of dumbness.

      • Meteorlady

        So what’s your point besides insulting…?

      • Robert Smith

        I got it. Sorry you didn’t see it.

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        She “got it,” idiot.

        Her question was, “So what’s your point besides insulting…?”

        I can answer that question in 4 words: “no point beyond insulting.”

  • ranger hall

    TED, Stick by your Guns, You said nothing that would threaten the Presidents life, Just the SS needs to show that they Do work for a living, But you are on the List. as in Off-Road, Pedal to the Metal.Its nice to see a lot of Americans thoughts made Public thru you, Keep up the good American way. Hall/JGR
    CAn you believe this Colombia Hooker, she was promised 800.00 for the Nite, Or this SS man was real stupid,Hell 800.00 should have taken care of all the 20-21 Govt workers. Or heck it was just taxpayers Expenses.

  • http://yahoo.com Jan

    To Rob. You know Rob, if you only choose to take certain parts of the Bible, and only read what feeds your train of thought, you really only have part of the story, or the facts. At Noahs time, the people saved were the only ones who apparently listened to the warnings of what was to come. They prepared, the rest carried on business as usual.
    Sounds a bit like today to me, if you don’t like a message, well, just ignore it, but if you do, please don’t whine about the aftermath. You are afforded the right of choice, and if your choice turns out to not be all you hoped for, I hardly think that is someone elses fault. If the stop sign means STOP and a person persists in going forward anyhow, and that semi coming from the other direction can’t stop, well, whose fault is that? Seems pretty simple to me.

    As in Lots time, he was given time to talk to his family, tell them they needed to leave, they chose to ignore the old man and guess what? So who do you blame for that? Well, in your case you have decided that God is the villian but then, you didn’t read the whole story– did you?
    J

    • Robert Smith

      Jan says: “Well, in your case you have decided that God is the villian but then, you didn’t read the whole story– did you?”

      All those babies who died in the flood? It wasn’t their fault. Oh, now I remember, your brutal god hadn’t sent his onw kid (remember he knocked up the virgin Mary) but oops, was it suicide? That holy trinity is so confusing on most days.

      Never said it was… Oops, yes I did. Actually it takes a pretty brutal god to blow up a couple of cities and the only ones worth saving are an insestious little brude with Lot. Ohhhh, I get it you want to blame the victims! Got it.

      Now, about knocking up a virgin so he could get himself born?

      Rob

  • Meteorlady

    I’m sorry but I think Ted is loosing it. This is the same guy that did an interview with the Detroit Free Press about how he dodged the draft. But…. he was out on a student deferment but entertained almost constantly from BEFORE he was “attending college”. So, I guess he was afraid to go to Vietnam when the rest of the boys went, but now he’s all of a sudden working with the Secret Service and others in Texas?

    He is also the same guy that showed up at Gov. Perry’s inauguration in camo and proceeded to be an embarrassment by insulting immigrants and illegals and generally ranting hysterically.

    I will admit I have watched a couple of his things where he makes a lot of sense and I do share some of the views, but he’s just a little too over the top.

    • http://none Claire

      Meteorlady—regarding your comments–I read and heard the same thing about Nugent bragging about how he dodged the draft. I have some cousins in Michigan–they told me the same thing. I also read that he urinated and defecated in his pants for 10 days so that he could avoid the military.

      • Robert Smith

        “I also read that he urinated and defecated in his pants for 10 days so that he could avoid the military.”

        So, which story is true and which is a lie? Doesn’t matter. Either way when he told the other story he was a liar.

        Rob

      • http://none Claire

        Robert Smith: Which story is a lie? With the Internet, to a degree, don’t you think a person can read anything about anyone and then choose which site they want to believe? Left wing or right wing? It depends on which political party a person belongs to. A person must really research the issue at hand. All I did was type in “Did Ted Nugent dodge the draft? There were numerous sites concerning this issue– Newshound, LiveLeaks, etc. Check it out.

      • Robert Smith

        But wasn’t it old Teddy N. who told both stories at different times?

        Rob

      • http://none Claire

        Robert Smith– Apparently he told it to the Detroit News. He flaps his lips to anyone that will listen.

  • BertE

    Obama is the one Jesus said let no man deceive you. When will everyone quit talking about him , thereby blowing up his pride filled ego more and more. To say it and not sound like a racist Obama is a black hearted, communist, illegal alien that needs to be Impeached NOW and Deported slithering outta the USA like the Snake he is.

  • http://foxnews.com jojo

    TED NUGENT FOR PRESIDENT ! !
    Finnally we would be able to put the idiots back in there boxes, and seal them shut!!
    GLEN BECK FOR PRESIDENT ! ! WOULDNT THAT BE NICE.

  • http://foxnews.com jojo

    Anyone not with Ted Nugent is a non american period.
    does anyone know why Ted Nugent lives in The Great State of Texas.
    Flashy needs to go away and hide under a rock he is very non American.

  • Donald York

    So what are you saying Robert Smith, Our founding fathers were rope smokers? What’s your point?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      He has no point. He obviously is frustrated that his posts don’t produce the results he wants.

      • Vigilant

        From http://tezindenver.newsvine.com/_news/2009/05/27/2869999-why-cant-we-grow-hemp-in-america :

        “Hemp has served mankind for thousands of years, discovered in ancient civilizations at least 8000 B.C. Was grown widely in U.S. by colonial farmers including George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.”

        It was grown for rope and its fibers were used in fabric-making.

        As usual, Robe Smith is trying to make more out of it than it was.

      • Robert Smith

        You can go to: http://sparkreport.net/2009/07/presidents-that-smoked-marijuana/

        Here is the start of the list…

        George Washington
        Washington routinely smoked marijuana to alleviate the pain from his ailing teeth. Washington’s diary recounts his efforts to better cultivate and enhance his crops of marijuana.

        Thomas Jefferson
        Jefferson grew cannabis on his plantation and smuggled Chinese hemp seeds to America. He also is believed to have given special smoking blends out as personal gifts which is why he makes the list.

        James Madison
        Madison once remarked that hemp gave him insight to create a new and democratic nation.

        And, this is just the beginning.

        How would you like to hear from a conservative: “Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value, marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.”
        - William F. Buckley Jr. quote on Marijuana

        “The illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world.”
        - Carl Sagan quote on Marijuana

        “If the words “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” don’t include the right to experiment with your own consciousness, then the Declaration of Independence isn’t worth the hemp it was written on.”
        - Terence McKenna quote on Marijuana

        “I think people need to be educated to the fact that marijuana is not a drug. Marijuana is an herb and a flower. God put it here. If He put it here and He wants it to grow, what gives the government the right to say that God is wrong?””
        - Willie Nelson quote on Marijuana

        Rob

  • s c

    People, barbarians are at the gates, Amerika is burning ['thanks' to Nerobama], Congress refuses to serve as a check or a balance and Ted Nugent has been “cleared” by the Secret Service.
    As I recall, we have a very important election on the horizon. Priorities DO serve a purpose, folks.

  • jopa

    A friend of mine Nam 68-69 was in the same predicament when Reagan was President.His disability check was messed up so he blames Reagan in a threatening manner in a bar and was overheard by another customer.SS had him for two weeks trying to crack this Grunt and they couldn’t do it.I think he convinced them Reagan was a pri__ and they let him go.Little teddy bear cracks in less than a day.That’s just too funny.

  • brianS

    Just reading some of this crap over a guy who speaks his mind and with conviction, I can why the USA is another roman empire, going down the drain rapidly. Hang on guys China might soon be able to give the USA foreign aid as a 3rd rate undeveloped country.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Having been more than vociferously critical of the president’s hard-left policies and agendas that are wreaking havoc on America, it is time I make amends and heap some much deserved praise on the president because he has done something which is absolutely amazing, spectacular, and is deserving of much praise from guys like me.

    President Obama is single handedly responsible for the ongoing record setting avalanche of gun and ammunition sales all across America. This is because rank and file Americans do not trust the president and his clear and present anti-gun team.
    -Ted Nugent

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Politics

    Follow Us On

    Thomas Jefferson would be shocked and appalled if he could see what America has done to this grand experiment since he drafted the Declaration of Independence. On Independence Day 2011, Mr. Jefferson would not be celebrating our independence but rather encouraging Americans to revolt once again.

    America has compromised the Founding Fathers’ dreams of a limited federal government for a centralized federal government that is bloated, grossly ineffective, putridly expansive, irresponsible, tremendously expensive and soullessly bureaucratic.

    Our federal government is more burdensome, costly and controlling than the British government of King George 235 years ago, the very beast that our Founding Fathers took up arms against and fired a freedom shot that was heard around the world.

    The Founders recognized the costly quagmire of an all-powerful and centralized federal government. Mr. Jefferson, who arguably was the smartest man ever to have taken up residence in the White House, wrote, “My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.”

    Our Founders wrote our Constitution to limit the powers of the federal government. That hasn’t stopped our professional politicians from violating the Constitution and doing what they want when they want and to whom they want from their gilded mahogany thrones in Washington. They have zero respect for the Constitution. They pay lip service to it when it serves their political need.

    On our embarrassing, apathetic watch, we have allowed our republic to be financially raped, pillaged and plundered by our King George-like professional politicians, who buy our votes with our tax dollars by creating vast federal handout programs, departments and agencies that Uncle Sugar Daddy was never intended or designed to create or manage. The result: America is tens and tens of trillions of dollars in debt.

    Statesmen such as Mr. Jefferson, James Madison, George Washington and others would not have condoned this grotesque financial irresponsibility emanating out of the toxic swamp of Washington. Again quoting Mr. Jefferson, “It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes.”

    Those patriots, Tea Party members and other concerned Americans who speak about financial responsibility, champion limited government and promote the ideals of our Founding Fathers are often maligned, lampooned and condemned as intellectual lightweights, radicals and even racists by various cowards.

    The Tea Partyers have it right. They understand that our republic can only be saved by advocating the very principles, vision and ideals of those men and women who risked their lives, sacred honor and fortunes to give birth to America.

    Tea Partyers, members of various other patriotic organizations and other rank-and-file concerned Americans should take solace in the words of John Adams when he wrote about the American Revolution in 1818, “This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution.”

    On this Independence Day, sit down with your children, loved ones, friends, neighbors and co-workers and read the Declaration of Independence and discuss it. Get them to commit to a new uprising in which our King George politicians are dethroned and run out of Washington. Be a patriot and save America.

    When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another …

    Happy Independence Day. God bless America.

    Ted Nugent

    Ted Nugent is an American rock ‘n’ roll, sporting and political activist icon. He is the author of “Ted, White and Blue: The Nugent Manifesto” and “God, Guns & Rock ‘N’ Roll” (Regnery Publishing).

    • Vigilant

      Absolutely superb post! Thanks, Jay.

  • Steve

    After reading Sook Young’s replies – I wish *I* was a Samarai. ;)

    As a Naturalized Citizen of America – I came here to GET AWAY from be “socialized”. PLEASE LEAVE AMERICA AS AMERICA – there are already plenty of communist, socialist and a plethora of variations on these governments in the world. IF you want to live that way, please emigrate to one of those countries. America is (was?) unique in the world and needs to return to a Constitutional Republic that has a government that respects that and DOES NOT wish to “fundamentally change” it. SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK – IT BACKRUPTS EVERY NATION THAT EMBRACES IT!

    • Vigilant

      Steve, we are proud to have you as a citizen.

      By and large, our immigrants have a keener appreciation for the American promise than do those who have lived here all their lives. Moreover, they are generally much more well versed on the history and principles of our founding.

      • Steve

        Thanks Vigilant for your “welcome”. I’m proud to be here. I’m just saddened that the “pink tide” is slowly washing over the land and for the increasing anti-semitism and intolerance of Christianity. This great country can be saved. I just hope that there is enough love for the country, the documents of its founding, and being willing to admit that America has strayed from its founding principles, to do it.

  • jopa

    Another senseless slaughter of an animal by something called Ted that I consider lower than an animal by his actions.While hunting recently in Alaska he wounded a black bear with a bow and failed to follow up the wounded animal that probably suffered a slow agonizing death.What he did next was inexcusable when he took a gun and shot another black bear.The wounded one counts as a kill in Alaska and you are only allowed one kill a year.He had to pay a $10,000 fine and cannot hunt in Alaska for a year due to his criminal behavior.Some hero you folks have, the draft dodging punk rocker.

    • Vigilant

      I suggest you leave the less important PETA considerations aside and concern yourself with the “slow agonizing death” of this nation under the dictatorial regime of Obama.

      • Robert Smith

        Vigilant eespouses: “under the dictatorial regime of Obama.”

        Tell us Vigilant, just what aren’t you able to do because of Obama? How have your freedoms been curtailed?

        Be specific.

        BTW, Bush & Chaney wanted to know what books I took out of the library. Has Obama done anythingthat intrusive?

        Again, be specific.

        Rob

      • Vigilant

        From http://patrioticamerican.wordpress.com/2010/03/23/what-freedoms-lost-under-obama-oh-those-freedoms/

        What Freedoms Lost Under Obama? Oh! THOSE Freedoms…
        Anti-American President Barack Hussein Obama today is signing into law the biggest assault against the Constitution and the American citizenry any of us have ever witnessed.

        Despite overwhelming opposition from citizens to these atrocious health care reform bills, Congressional Democrats voted to pass them anyway. With gleeful self-congratulations, they advanced legislation to Obama’s desk that not only WON’T reform anything, but which will only make things worse. Typical of Progressive policy! It’s always about them and their pathological need to be historic.

        Thankfully, millions of Americans refuse to accept this criminal action. Court challenges are being filed and groups are banding together to push for the repealing of this nonsense. A number of States have even passed legislation intended to thwart the bill’s mandates requiring individuals to purchase health care insurance.

        Of course, the Internet is being deluged by Obammunist operatives who are attempting to dishearten opponents. But, they are not having an effect, because average, patriotic Americans already know the strategy of the enemy within. Americans are fighting back and saying, “No.” The more names they are called, the more resolute they are about taking back their government from the lying, power-hungry Communists in office.

        Typical posts by Obammunists include, “So, what freedoms have you lost under Obama!?” How sad that they do not instinctively understand. None are so blind as those who think licking Obama’s heels is the height of societal virtue.

        These dim bulbs of progressive enlightenment simply do not grasp what being free really means. Nor do they want anyone else to understand it, either.

        Being free means having the opportunity to work hard in order to earn the money and personal property necessary to reach one’s potential and goals. Additionally, unless one has the power to decide how he can use the fruits of his labors to realize his dreams, one cannot pursue his happiness, and thus, is not free.

        ObamaCare will impose enormous taxation on all working Americans. The confiscation of even more of a person’s net revenue strips away that person’s freedoms. It is as simple as that. When one has less disposable income, one has less choices. When one has less choices, one is less free.

        In the future, should you wish to take time to protest against government tyranny, you will be unable to do so. Why? Because you will not be able to afford to take the time off to do so. You won’t have the money needed to travel, or to buy signage materials, or to pay for lodging. You will be voiceless. The only mechanism you will have left will be reliance upon elected representatives who may or may not choose to represent you. As we see now, our government represents only those in power and their lackeys.

        So, when some upstanding liberal beacon of civil liberty snidely asks you what freedoms you’ve lost under Obama, just look him squarely in the eye and say, “You wouldn’t understand. It’s an American thing.”

      • Vigilant

        From http://www.politicaljack.com/forums/showthread.php?7857-What-Freedoms-Have-We-Lost-Under-Obama

        “What Freedoms Have We Lost Under Obama
        Obama has stolen the future from our children and grandchildren. He has taken away our freedom to believe that the next generation will be better off than ours is/was.

        He has taken away the freedom of those Americans, who cannot find jobs, to earn a living and to provide for their families.

        Obama has stolen our freedom to feel secure within our boundaries. He has taken away the freedom of a sovereign state to protect its citizens.

        He has taken away the freedom of every American to have equal protection under the law. (He has issued a proclamation that black Americans engaged in voter intimidation against whites will not be prosecuted).

        He has stolen taxpayer money and used it to reward his supporters and cronies, thereby stealing our freedom to pay taxes only for the legitimate purposes of government.

        We have lost the freedom to be proud of our country.

        Most of all Obama has stolen our freedom to expect the best from our government. He is rapidly driving us into bankruptcy and stealing our freedom to continue to exist as a strong and sovereign nation.

        Obama is an inept, corrupt, and lying thief who has set himself on a course to destroy everything that is right and good about America.”

      • Vigilant

        From http://dancirucci.blogspot.com/2011/12/what-freedoms-have-we-lost-under-obama.html

        People have been asking me and other conservatives: “What freedoms have we lost under Obama? What freedoms?”
        They ask this question as if they simply don’t understand that we always lose freedom whenever the government grows larger and whenever it impacts more aspects of our lives. That’s simply a given.
        You don’t have to read Milton Friedman to know that capitalism is based on economic freedom — a job, a home, a business — all tied to the opportunity to succeed.
        And Obama has delivered a shrunken economy with bigger government and tighter controls.
        Anyway, consider now that more than half of the nation’s fourth graders get their lunches from the federal school lunch program. These lunches are either free or heavily subsidized. When Obama provides the very food you need to survive, he has more control over your life and you have less freedom.
        When 15 percent of all Americans now rely on food stamps to feed their families (and that number is growing as well) that’s more freedom that has been lost and more control exerted by the federal government.
        When a record number of Americans are out of work and have to rely on an unemployment compensation check (and hope and pray that their unemployment benefits will be extended) they are more dependent on Big brother and less free.
        Programs such as these have grown all our of proportion. And the federal bureaucracy keep getting bigger and bigger.
        And let’s look at Obamacare. This massive new federal program will rob us of at least five additional freedoms: 1) The freedom to choose what’s in your own health plan because the federal government will effectively impose a list of benefits; 2) The freedom to be rewarded for healthy living, or pay your real costs because community rating will now take effect; 3) The freedom to choose high-deductable coverage because Obamacare threatens to eliminate the trend toward consumer-driven care; 4) The freedom to keep your existing plan because (despite everything the White House has said) even your “existing” plan will not be the same (indeed, will never again be the same) once the federal government begins imposing regulations and mandates and competition will be stifled as well and, finally 5) The freedom to choose your own doctors because Obamcare means that most Americans may have to access health care through “exchanges” where your primary care doctor and/or other gatekeepers will be able to decide when and if you need to see another doctor (cardiologist, oncologist, etc.) and who that doctor will be.
        Indeed, you will no longer have to freedom to not have any health care plan at all because Obamacare will mandate your purchase of same (that’s at the crux of the current Supreme Court challenge).
        Plus, Obamacare will impose enormous new taxes on everyone and every time your taxes go up, you have less freedom. In fact, larger government almost always means more taxes. Your own hard-earned money gives you access to the things you need and want in life. When the government takes more from you (and you keep less) you have less money and less freedom — less access to life’s needs and rewards.
        As has been pointed out at Free Republic: “The impact of Obama’s restructuring of our economy and consumer demand has already resulted in a grave loss of the independent decision-making that has marked our robust economy for centuries.” Government regulation stifles freedom, limiting options and opportunities.
        Furthermore, as the national debt has grown under Obama (grown during his term so far to the point where it exceeds that of all the other presidents combined) the burden of this debt is stealing our children’s and grandchildren’s future.
        But don’t take my word for it. Listen to the people: A recent poll shows that nearly half of all Americans now believe there has been a decrease in freedom under Obama. In fact, nearly 40% of all Americans feel there has been a BIG decrease in personal freedom.
        A government that’s big enough to promise to give you everything you think you want is also powerful enough to also take away everything you really need. And what you really need is the freedom to decide for yourself how to live your life and what to do with your hard-earned money.
        So, next time some liberal presses you for an answer to the question “WHAT freedoms have we lost?” you now have an answer.
        Voila!

      • Robert Smith

        Haven’t lost anything to health care yet. Fear mongering doesn’t count.

        Rob

      • Meteorlady

        My small business has gotten a 17% increase in my employee health care premiums…. that’s a big hit and I may have to let a person go. I am already taxed at about 52% when you count state, city, county and federal taxes, then add it fees and licensing and reporting regulations and I’m lossing even more.

      • Vigilant

        To turn the question on Rob Smith: “Might it be too much trouble for you to actually respond to what’s posted?”

        You asked me to be specific; I was. You answer with one weak, unsubstantiated reply and disregard the litany of ills presented.

        -Or would you prefer to get off-subject again (as always) and deliver another gratuitous salvo against Christians who don’t subscibe to your own beliefs?

      • http://none Claire

        meteorlady– Our local newspaper advertises to “shop” at smaller locally owned businesses. According to the owners of these small businesses–it is working. There was an aritcle interviewing some of the local business owners-they said there is an increase in sales, more buying customers, etc. I think this is great.

      • Robert Smith

        Meteorlady: “My small business has gotten a 17% increase in my employee health care premiums…. ”

        I’ll bet you are paying a PRIVATE company that is premptively setting rates higher. Remember little of the Obama health care has kicked in yet.

        IOW, it’s PRIVATE enterprise that has kicked your rate up, not the government.

        Rob

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Nugent has agreed to pay a $10,000 fine, not to hunt or fish within Alaska or on any other U.S. Forest Service lands for one year and agreed to create a public service announcement that promotes the importance of a person’s responsibility in knowing the rules and regulations of their hunting activities.
      The deal also includes two years probation.

      Nugent’s attorney told the Anchorage Daily News on Friday that his client, who has previously hunted in the same area, was unaware of the law, which was introduced less than five years ago. He told the newspaper he watched the video clip from Nugent’s show and the arrow “touched” the bear and stuck in the ground.

      “There wasn’t any blood trail that they could find,” Ross said. “There was a little blood apparently at the spot, but nothing that indicated the bear was hard hit.”

      There is no confirmation that the bear actually died.

      Neither the federal complaint nor the plea agreement revealed how federal authorities found out about the violation, though scenes from the hunt did air on Nugent’s show.

      • Robert Smith

        So, that’s your excuse for another right winger not playing by the same rules as everyone else… He didn’t know.

        He’s supposed to know. He’s allegedly a professional, just ask ‘em.

        Rob

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Robert chimes in with his usual ignorant liberal ad hominum…”So, that’s your excuse for another right winger not playing by the same rules as everyone else…”

        1. That was not “my” excuse nor did I make any excuse
        2. Nugent admitedly violated an Alaska “wanton waste” law and was penalyzed for such violation and he made no excuses. That he didn’t know the law doesn’t excuse him and he acknowledged that too.

        -Unlike you liberals, he made his bed and then he slept in it.
        -Unlike you liberals he didn’t blame it on Bush/Cheney.
        -Unlike you liberals he didn’t demand that the taxpayers pay for his mistake

      • Vigilant

        Jeff, we should all know by now that Rob Smith, like jopa, denniso, Flashy, et. al., have that liberal congenital brain defect that makes them incapable of processing objective facts.

        They are the typical right-brainers, creative (especially with the truth), artsy-fartsy and purely emotion-based in their thinking. The left side of their brains have atrophied a long time ago.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Vigilant :). I think Einstein did had liberals in mind with his insanity quote: “doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”

      • Robert Smith

        As long as you bring up Albert Einstein…

        “The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this.”
        - Albert Einstein quote on Hemp

  • jopa

    Vigilant;I would suggest you have a reality check and you will realize the progress we have made in the last few years after the near destruction of America under the Chaney Bush regime.As a human being we should all be concerned with the national treasures of the flora and fauna within our borders and around the world.Once you get rid of that me me me attitude and realize it’s not just about you it is about everyone and thing in the world that makes this such a great place.The recovery is slow but we are going in the right direction as far as jobs the war and national security.I haven’t researched PETA much but if we did we probably would find them of great importance.

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      ROFLMAO!

      • jopa

        Perhaps you should take your meds!!!

    • Vigilant

      jopa, the greatest national treasures of fauna within our borders are called “human beings.” NO ONE is for trashing the environment or killing off all the animals.

      When you have any problem, the only way to attack it is to segment it and prioritize the parts. Then you fix the highest priority segment first and on down.

      I’d say the “bear” problem was already fixed, and pretty well down on the list anyway. Hint: that’s why they fine that kind of behavior (problem solved). Nonetheless, the highest priority of this nation (except for the traitors) is to restore the nation to its greatness via re-establishment of the supremacy of the Constitution.

      Believe me, when the USG is turned down by foreign debtors the first time, and we’re plunged into something WORSE than the Great Depression, you aren’t going to be worrying about the bears. You’ll be worrying about where your next meal will be coming from, perhaps your own life. And then you can thank Bush, Obama, and a host of politicians on both sides of the aisle in Congress.

    • Robert Smith

      Yes, Jeff does look kinda sick rolling on the floor.

      Rob

      • jopa

        If I knew his address I would send him a clapper.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Easy now, stop with the excitment..I can hear the bells on both your collars jingling.

      • Vigilant

        Jeff, if I knew jopa’s address I’d send him the clap.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        Vigilant, jopa’s a blind lying moron whose address I have no interest in ever knowing. They’re type usually get what they deserve…in the end. Both Robert and jopa have clearly and quickly destroyed any semblance of credibility they may ever have had.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    As much as I would like to have a federal job for its salary and benefits, I must say that being a Secret Service agent is NOT a position I’d want at any salary. Especially now – given the regime of politicians I’d be responsible for protecting. If I were a SS agent, I’d feel like I was committing treason by protecting America’s enemies, unless of course I were assigned to true patriotic American GOP presidential candidates other than Romney or Ron Paul. And of course Sarah Palin was right to say : “Well, check this out, buddy — you’re fired!” SARAH PALIN 2016!!

    • jopa

      She thought all along people were checking her out.Every time she would walk by a group of people at least one would say” wow there goes a real ass”.

      • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

        jopa, you’ve rapidly become the #1 laughingstock at PLD, narrowly surpassing 47D.

  • Ron

    I vote independent. I keep waiting for an Eisenhower-genuine-conservative to come along that I could vote for.

    The problem is, Ted Nugent is precisely the face of this new Karlrovian Glennbeckian monstrosity that has hijacked the Republican Party.

    Dwight Eisenhower couldn’t BE a Republican according to the modern definition. He was too much in favor of cooperation and compromise and, after all, used public funds to build the Interstate Highway System. At the time, Big Corporate and the Radical Right railed against him as a commie because of the project, then swooped in and made a TON o’ money off of it once it was done.

    Barry Goldwater couldn’t be a Republican nowadays. Before he died, he saw this change coming to a formerly conservative institution and feared for the future of America.

    Ronald Reagan couldn’t be a Republican nowadays. His tax rates and call for all Americans–including the Corporate Untouchable Citizens–to share the tax burden make him a rotten, filthy, Al Qaeda-loving, America-hating Socialist, I think.

    Also, he–like every President before him and most after him–Reagan encouraged Americans to get the best education they could. If I understand Lord Santorum of the New Nobility right, that makes him a “snob” and an educated elite and an America-hater. Americans will do just fine working two shifts at McDonalds and they don’t need to better themselves. Being a sharecropper is plenty good in the New Confederacy which is coming.

    The list of people who couldn’t be Karlrovian Republicans goes on.

    George Bush, Sr.–educated, “elite”, went to war in the Gulf with an international mandate rather than wrapping his hiney in the flag and cowboying off into a $4 trillion “war to nowhere”. Served in the military–a HUGE no-no in the modern, chickenhawk Republican Party, where everyone with real military experience (Colin Powell comes to mind) is kicked to the curb in favor of an endless succession of clever draft-dodgers who’ve become f-l-a-m-i-n-g chickenhawks once they’re sure that they and theres won’t do any of the dying.

    He NEVER would’ve sent U.S. forces into the Gulf without armored vehicles and without proper body armor. For that alone we hate him.

    He NEVER would’ve permitted waterboarding and the atrocities at Abu Ghraib, and for that we spit on him and shout with one blunt voice: “YOU LIE”! and “KILL HIM”! and “SUCK ON MY MACHINE GUN, YOU P.O.S.!”

    Teddy Roosevelt–anti-trust, against child labor and in favor of fair wages. Infidel. Unfriendly to corporate greed. America Hater.

    Abraham Lincoln–Filthy, America-hating TRAITOR. He dismantled the single-largest component of America’s GDP in 1860: Trafficking in human beings. (Libtards say he “freed the slaves”) America’s slaveholders were the original “Job Creators”. Lincoln, as Redistributionist-in-Chief, went to war against our small businessmen, by taking their property (negroes) away from them and giving them “equal rights” (I just threw up in my mouth a little as I said that).

    For his transgression against Allah–I mean Jesus–God’s Holy Confederacy raised up a mighty RealAmerican SuperPatriot entertainer jihadist–the Ted Nugent of his day, if you will–to exercise his “Second-Amendment Remedy” and he Swiftboated Lincoln in the head at Ford’s Theatre (libtards call it “assassinating the President” or “murdering the President”. Why do they hate RealAmerica so???).

    The high irony of the modern Republican Party is that they have hijacked the Party of Lincoln and turned it into the Party of John Wilkes Booth. They couldn’t more precisely urinate on the man’s grave if they tried.

    They’ve gone from conservative and measured to radical and outrageous–where any compromise and constructive cooperation is now TREASON.

    As this current President has alienated himself repeatedly from his own shrill, feckless, dumbsky extremists on the left by embracing policies put forth by Republicans, the Karlrovian Confederacy Party is left in the awkward position of having to $hit on their own ideas, since they’ve been adopted in a spirit of compromise by this N*kenyan*R.

    The modern RINO Party–by definition Republican In Name Only–has abandoned everything the Republicans ever stood for, and still it’s not bent far enough to the radical right to satisfy Ted Nugent, et al.

    My question for y’all is, not whose side will you fight on in the coming Civil War. You’ve made that clear. You have recreated, plank-by-plank, the platform of the Confederate States of America, and you will go to war and burn America to the ground with us in it if it means you can re-install that once-defeated oligarchy back over America. You pushed hard on it during the Cheney Administration and America now accepts as normal a standard of inequality that Reagan never would’ve stood for.

    My question is: Whose side will you fight on in the Jesus Wars which follows your defeat of the United States of America?

    History shows that every time a right-wing fanatical ideology overthrows a secular, compromise-based democracy, the radical elements within the right wing begin to tear each other to pieces.

    The Christian Right is already blunting up on Mitt Romney over his Mormonism as being suspicious and UnChristianRealAmerican.

    Lady Ann has gone on record as saying Jews aren’t good enough until they convert to Churchianity.

    Baptists don’t agree with Pentecostals don’t agree with Lutherans don’t agree with Methodists and they ALL hate Catholics. Once you’ve gutted the separation between church and state upon which OldAmerica was founded, you must go to war with one another because our God (Allah? No JESUS) is One God.

    You must destroy democracy if you are to replace it with theocracy, and there can be only one God ruling in a theocracy, and it will take an army of armed-to-the-teeth, ignorant warriors–a million Ted Nugents–to defeat the Infidel in your midst.

    Like Lebanon in the ’80s and the Balkans in the ’90s, you must burn America down, smash the American Dream and turn it into the Long American Nightmare in order to root out and crush everyone who disagrees with you.

    Welcome to the Glorious New World.

    Don’t kid yourself. In 2012, we are not choosing between ObamaCommuNaziHomoSocialistN*ggaKenyanism and RealAmerica.

    We are choosing between the United States of America–a multi-cultural messy melting pot of different beliefs and ideas–and the Confederate States of America, an idea defeated on the battlefields of Antietam and Gettysburg, yet resurgent and determined to take with the bullet if they lose with the ballot.

    The coded language is lost on no one that’s ever read a book.

    And if they succeed, they intend to Take America Back.

    –All the way back to 1859, an olde-timey place where a few wealthy plantation owners and corporations called the shots, religious intolerance was the norm, the little women knew their place (making babies and running the household), sharecroppers were grateful to serve the wealthy, and there were lots and lots of slaves.

    Choose wisely.

    Like the wrap-your-hiney and get re-elected wars of the Cheney Administration (the longest in U.S. history), we will be paying for this new Party of John Wilkes Booth for a long, long time.

    • Robert Smith

      Thank you, Ron.

      Rob

  • jopa

    The men in uniform have spoken..They wanted a performance by Nugent at Fort Knox axed and it was.They should get a real performer from the Detroit area like Bob Seger.

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Au contraire mon petit menteur. It wasn’t the men in unform, it was the Fort Knox leadership. Major General Jefforey Smith, commanding general at Fort Knox, made the final decision to cancel Nugent’s appearance.

      • Robert Smith

        ROFL… And it was OK when the Reagan administration’s James Watt kicked the Beach Boys out of the 1983 Fourth of July concert at the Washington Monument?

        Rob

  • jopa

    Jeffh;What are you trying to say, that he took off his uniform when he made his final decision with the other men that surrounded him in uniform.Or did they all take off their uniforms to make this decision.I tend to believe a Major General knows how to make decisions while in uniform.Now take your Med!!

    • Vigilant

      How much time have you spent in the military, jopa? You seem to think the armed forces are a democracy.

      Honest answer, now.

      • Robert Smith

        I spent 4 years in the United States Navy.

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        I should have added that I’m quite familiar with the UCMJ.

        No, the military is not a democracy. But a good leader knows when to listen.

        Rob

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Argumentum ad hominem!

  • jopa

    Vigilant:Above you stated if you had my address you would give me the clap.I don’t know how you caught it yourself but I doubt if you could give it to me, You are not my type.Perhaps you could give your buddy Jeff a call.

    • http://gravatar.com/hattles JeffH

      Au contraire mon petit menteur. :)

    • Vigilant

      “Vigilant:Above you stated if you had my address you would give me the clap.”

      Having that old “misquotation” problem again jopa? I said “send,” not “give.”

      I’d have to scrape it off the furniture in the Oval Office. Obama’s screwed so many millions of people he could not have come away unscathed.

      • Robert Smith

        Actually that was Bush and his bannksters.

        Remeber Chane’s no bid contracts for the catered war?

        Rob

  • http://none Claire

    I read in this morning’s paper about Nugent illegally killing a bear in southeast Alaska, and transporting it . He has agreed to pay a $10,000 fine, is on a two-year probation , including a special condition that he does not hunt or fish in Alaska or on forest service properties for one year. So much for his “honorable” hunting intentions.

    • FreedomFighter

      Didnt he turn himself in and pay the fine for his mistake? Yup

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • Robert Smith

        He should have known better as a pro.

        It’s a mistake, just like the guy at MSNBC (who got fired) made.

        Actually as a hunter he should have known the rules when he went into the field.

        Rob

  • jopa

    I sure hope he turned himself in, it wouldn’t be hard to find him though.He will be on TV next week killing another animal for his adoring fans. One would think he would know better to read up on a states laws before hunting there or just use some common sense as to how many bear one can shoot in a year.The wounding of a bear is the same as a kill in Alaska and they probably have him on tape doing so.

    • Robert Smith

      It’s clear from the article that the tapes were the evidence. The question is: Who on his staff leaked them to authorities?

      Rob

  • http://none Claire

    Maybe he did turn himself in, the newspaper didn’t mention that. If he turned himself in, big deal. He shouldn’t have done the foul deed in the first place. I do not have any respect for Nugent and I never will. I will add I do not allow hunting on my property in the country. Too many disgusting weekend warriors that leave deer with arrows hanging out of their bodies–to die a horrible death. They shoot at anything that moves. They have shot cows that belong to farmer next door to my property. The cows were brown, I guess they couldn’t tell a cow from a deer. This is another reason why I respected my husband–he hunted with common sense and he hunted during the allowable season.

Bottom
close[X]

Sign Up For Personal Liberty Digest™!

PL Badge

Welcome to PersonalLiberty.com,
America's #1 Source for Libertarian News!

To join our group of freedom-loving individuals and to get alerts as well as late-breaking conservative news from Personal Liberty Digest™...

Privacy PolicyYou can opt out at any time. We protect your information like a mother hen. We will not sell or rent your email address to anyone for any reason.