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Riding A Wave Of Common Sense

October 25, 2010 by  

Riding A Wave Of Common Sense

The elected elites are on the ropes… and they know it.

How else do you explain the meltdown going on in Washington and in political races across the country?

President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden have taken to insulting their own voting base — and all other Americans as well. Obama recently said, in effect, Americans are scared stupid by their economic circumstances. It’s not the first time Obama has sniffed the great unwashed and found his olfactory lobes offended. If you listen carefully to his speeches, it happens fairly often.

Since they’re so frightened, Obama posited, Americans are turning to those irrational and ignorant Tea Parties for comfort and supporting whacky “out-of-the-mainstream” Tea Party candidates. What other reason could be behind the front-runner status of people like Sharron Angle, Marco Rubio, Rand Paul, Joe Miller, Ron Johnson and Pat Toomey — candidates with little or no prior political experience but who say they stand for the Constitution and smaller government?

Of course, the idea of smaller government is anathema to the elected fascist class of both parties and chattering elitists and globalists dominating the mainstream media. They all believe that anyone that didn’t graduate from a prestigious university is incapable of providing for himself and making rational decisions. So a large government is not only unavoidable… it’s necessary.

The Politician was outed last week in my column, aptly titled, The Politician. He or she is of and for the Government.

Politicians are wordsmiths — twisting words, using doublespeak and other semantic gymnastics to confuse the issue, appear both for and against a position depending on the audience and otherwise obfuscate the meaning and purpose of the legislation they pass.

But Americans are on to them. They’ve had enough. They’ve climbed out from behind their desks; they’ve taken off their aprons; they’ve gotten off their tractors; they’ve gotten up out of their easy chairs; they’ve set aside their hobbies; they’ve left their businesses for subordinates to run; they’ve parked their tractor-trailers; they’ve bucked their union bosses; they’ve rescheduled their vacations; and they’ve otherwise put their lives on  hold to join Tea Party protests locally and in Washington, D.C., to oppose an overreaching, over burdensome, bloated, profligate government. Some have taken the next step and actually run for office.

And the elites are beside themselves. “Who are these upstarts?” they ask. “What do they know about government? They can’t possibly understand the way things work. They didn’t go to Yale or Harvard or Princeton or Columbia. They don’t even believe in global warming or a living Constitution.”

Knowing no other response, the elitists have begun using age-old, time-worn tactics of “The Smear” and “The Snark.” With The Smear, they use exaggerations, misrepresentations and outright lies in order to Smear their opponent.  A good example is Jack Conway in Kentucky. Trailing Paul in the state’s Senate race, Conway resurrected a debunked tale about Paul’s days in college. Conway is running ads claiming that, because Paul might have belonged to a secret society and participated in a mock kidnapping while a university student, there are too many questions about his character for him to be a Senator.

Never mind that character and politician long ago became mutually exclusive. I give you Bill Clinton, Arlen Specter, Charlie Crist, Mark Sanford, Eliot Spitzer, Ted Kennedy, David Vitter… I could go on, but an exhaustive list would be… exhausting. These, and most others of the elected class, are politicians and not statesmen. Few and far between are the statesmen today.

Others employing The Smear include Representative Alan Grayson (D-Fla.). His now infamous “Taliban Dan” ad takes statements by his opponent, Dan Webster, out of context and claims Webster wants to turn the U.S. into an Islamic-like nation that oppresses women. Even the liberal newspaper Orlando Sentinel said Grayson’s ad “takes Webster’s words out of context” and “twists their meaning.”

Unable to sell their records — which they (most, at least) are running away from — Democrats apparently feel The Smear is their best tactic. It’s the one they employ most often in races across the country.

 The Snark is more subtle, but equally offensive. It is used by politicians and media elitists to put down people making common sense arguments — with common sense battling honesty and truthfulness as the thing in shortest supply among the elitist that infest the corridors in D.C. and sit behind the desks of major media outlets.

In her debate with Chris Coons, Tea Party-backed Christine O’Donnell got into a discussion about Coons’ position that public schools should teach evolution but not teach “intelligent design,” which posits that life forms are too complex to  have evolved through natural processes and must have been created by God.

O’Donnell claimed Coons’ position was “a blatant violation of our Constitution,” to which Coons replied that “one of those indispensible principals is the separation of church and state.” O’Donnell then, logically asked, “Where in the Constitution is the separation of church and state?”

“The audience exploded in laughter,” wrote The Wall Street Journal.

Of course, the words “separation of church and state” are nowhere to be found in the Constitution. Nor did the Founders intend for the 1st Amendment to be bastardized as such. Geopolitical Editor Chip Wood explained the Founders’ intent in his article Don’t Believe This Liberal Lie so I won’t argue this point further.

Suffice to say, O’Donnell was correct in her assertion, yet she’s being played in the snarky media as being a nut because she’s right on the issue. And if the debate audience “exploded in laughter,” as The Journal reported, the audience was ignorant and has bought into the years of the progressive lies of activist judges and fascist politicians.

Another Snark came from The New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd, who claimed in an Oct. 16 column that “We are in the era of Republican Mean Girls, grown up versions of those teenage tormentors who would steal your boyfriend, spray-paint your locker and, just for good measure, spread rumors that you were pregnant.”

Making Dowd’s list were Arizona Governor Jan Brewer, California Gubernatorial Candidate Meg Whitman, California Senate Candidate Carly Fiorina, Connecticut Senate Candidate Linda McMahon, Representative Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), Former Vice Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin, Angle and O’Donnell.

What do these women have in common? They are Republican, they’ve demonstrated they understand the need for smaller government and they’re challenging the status quo — and doing so successfully. And those of that group who are running — that is all but Palin who isn’t running for office but is making kings and queens across the nation — stand a good chance of winning their respective elections despite long odds.

The elitist political class is yet to grasp why. Karl Rove — called “The Architect” because he engineered the election of President George W. Bush twice — had a temper tantrum on national television after O’Donnell waxed establishment candidate Mike Castle. The globalist Rove is like most of the inside-the-beltway crowd. He hasn’t grasped that most Americans aren’t — as he is — concerned with party politics and advancing a globalist agenda.

They are seeking statesmen. They’re looking for character. They want honesty and elected representatives who put America first.

For Tea Party members — and those who don’t consider themselves part of the movement but identify with conservative principals and want Constitutional adherents holding the seats in Congress — there is a strong feeling that this election is the last chance to fend off either a European brand of socialism (which we see working well in Greece, France and England right now) or outright Marxism.

While Rove, his brethren in professional political circles and the elected fascist elitists are yet to grasp that, there is evidence that an understanding may be beginning. Writing for The Washington Examiner, Senior Political Analyst Michael Barone indicated in an Oct. 19 column that he’s starting to understand the phenomenon. But he’s like the math student who got the correct answer on a complex problem even though the steps he used to get there were flawed.

“One of the constant refrains of the so-called mainstream media is that tea party candidates are blithering incompetents and weird wackos,” Barone wrote. “As on so many points, I think the mainstream media has gotten it nearly upside down. What strikes me about so-called tea party candidates — those with little or no political experience who have won Republican nominations by opposing the Obama Democrats’ vast expansion of government — is not that some of them are bumblers but that so many of them seem to  have terrific political instincts.”

Political instincts? What about common sense, a grounding in real-world values and an understanding of the Founding principles?

That would explain why the elected elitist fascist class doesn’t understand it.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Claire

    Riding a wave of common sense? I still want to know what their agenda is if elected. I want to know their plan of action, not spiel. I want the truth from all of them, Democrats and Republicans alike. Like JFK said, it is not what America can do for you–it is what you can do for America.

    • DaveH

      I’m with you on that one, Claire. If they so much as get caught in one lie, we need to throw them out in the next election. Every time. No excuses.

      • Claire

        DaveH–Yes, run them out of town on a rail–or by some other means of “transportation.”

        • Jana

          Claire,
          It seems that this country is no longer inhabited by the same sane people any more. It seems that a lot of the people out there think that dishonesty and lying is allright as long as they can get away with it.
          Cinton even took it 50 steps further by the deny deny deny mentality of even the most obvious lies.
          Therefore, it seems that most people think nothing of the fact that we cannot trust our politicians, and they don’t even bother to hold them accountable for their actions and misdeeds.
          We are living in a different age of even when I was a child and this is a very uncomfortable time for those of us who are and value honesty.

          • Claire

            Jana–I have the same thoughts as you. Nothing is the same. Nothing is what it seems. Nothing is sacred, valued, respected, etc. We are living in a different world and we cannot take anything for granted. I clearly remember when Obama was campaigning, he kept saying he would end the war and bring ALL troops home in about 17 months. I was elated and I believed him. I should have known better. I am a person that has always supported our troops and I will continue to do so but I find this a bitter pill to swallow. I think this is why I am fed up with politicians.

          • Marten

            Hello Jana,,,,Lying is a matter of course for”Successful” Politicians and just get into Congress, you have to be a pretty damn good LIAR!!!!!The lack of personal integrity is the real source of the problem…..Best to ALL

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            That is because politics are run by lawyers. Ever been in a court room, or watched one on TV? They have no interest in what is right or wrong. If they can mislead the jury, and get enough TRUTH thrown out in a case, and present their twisted ideas and lies, then they win. Its not about justice and truth and good with them. Its about getting what you want and how much money you can make. Thats why the legal system is, and has been, busted for a long, long time. When you take the truth out of things, bad things come in and take its place. And in the whole of things, God is the truth, and they are insisting in removing Him and every trace of Him from government and schools, and look at the mess we have. This is what happens when the truth is removed.

        • James

          Claire, tar and feathers works pretty good, they stick to the rail better.

      • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

        If we can get these newly elected people to vote for term limits, we don’t always have to be saying: we can vote them out if they don’t perform. Sure, we can vote them out, but it makes cleaning up Washington take decades instead of a few years. Think how much more could be done if people are not focused on re-election.

        • Randy

          Term limits is not a silver bullet. My city has term limits for City Council. It is no guarantee of sanity. I think fighting for term limits is a waste of time and an attempt by the politically slothful to find a magic system whereby they can be absolved from the hard work of finding and supporting good people. As it was said in the founding era: “Though good laws do well, good men do better.” The practical outworking of term limits is to increase the bad guys. There are more people who are easily seduced by the trappings of power than those who have the strength of character to resist that seduction. Term limits will give you more of the former as it brutally weeds out the latter. I know this to be true as I have seen it first hand as a former elected municipal official.

      • eyeswideopen

        How about the lies we catch them in prior to the election? The idiots in Fl, have caught Rubio in many lies, fraud and deceit, yet he is leading in the polls. Of course worse than him is Rick Scott, who claimed the 5th, 75 times while being charged with medicare fraud and was fined one billion, 700 million dollars and now wants to be our governor. Yep, those tea party guys have great ethics!!! I have one question for you conservatives/libertarians. How do you reduce the deficit while keeping the tax cuts in place? Hypocritical and conflicting ideas are par for the course with your chosen politicians.

        • Denniso

          Hi eyes…the Repubs are at their best w/ hypocrisy and lies. They can’t stand the possibility of the top 2% of our wealthy elites not getting their tax cuts extended so they can buy another Rolls/Jag/Porche. It’s funny that they are sticking up for the richest among us,because those are the ‘elites’ they claim to loathe.

          Nonsense galore…

        • Christin

          eyes(not so)wideopen & denniso,

          You reduce the deficet by:

          * STOP THE SPENDING now,
          * GET OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST WARS (unwinnable with hands tied behind back)
          * STOP FUNDING LIBERAL/ SOCIALIST POLITICAL GROUPS (like NPR, ACORN… so many to mention…) with taxpayer money (let them raise their own money),
          * NOT PASSING ANYMORE PORK attached in Bills (write short bills w/o hidden agendas),
          * CUTTING hundreds of BLOATED & CORRUPT BEAUROCRACIES,
          * REPEAL NOBAMACARE (TAX),
          * DON’T PASS CAP & TAX to sky rocket energy prices and loose jobs going green
          * NO MORE UNIONS (they are corrupt and causing pension deficits)
          * GET RID OF FRAUD and WASTE (STOP sending checks to dead, inmates & 4 year olds…)
          * GET RID of OVER REGULATION & TAXATION of COMPANIES/ INDUSTRIES which have gone abroad to make a profit so that they will COME BACK and provide JOBS to ignite our ECONOMY,
          * CHANGE THE TAX CODE to possibly a simple Flat Tax so all Americans (legal of illegal) will put into the system,
          * SECURE THE BORDERS so we aren’t burdened with illegals milking our system and getting a FREE RIDE when we are slaving away,
          * FIRE the FED (they are unconstitutional anyway… controling the $money$ and not allowing an Audit),
          and
          * put BIG GOVERNMENT on a diet worthy of a Republic, small government, that our Founding Father’s gave to us!

          Then say HELLO to JOBS, PROSPERITY, LIBERTY, FREE-MARKETS & FREEDOM!

          That should DO for a START gentlemen!!!

          • denniso

            Do you and the ‘tea party’ understand that we are not a small republic like we were 200+ yrs ago? We have 310 million people,living in a complex world,full of difficulties and dangers unimaginable to the founders. To pretend that we can have some tiny gov’t w/ a tiny budget not doing much of anything except national defense is more than a joke. It’s simplistic, impossible and a joke derived from mass denial of reality.

            I notice that you leave the bloated military budget alone once you get us out of the 2 wars. I say cut the military budget further,partly by bringing our soldiers home from places like Japan,Germany,England…leave them in trouble spots like South Korea,but otherwise get them the hell out of countries that are perfectly able to defend themselves.

    • http://n/a jerry hughes

      Clare—- you appear to be part of the problem.
      Countries are formed for the benefitof it’s citizens.
      Citizens are not born for the good of the country.

      • Wayne

        Jerry, go back to your nap. People that made this country great, say back in the 1700′s & 1800′s did not depend on the government for their livelihood. Without those folks hard work you probably wouldn’t even be here. The past generations have given us what we have today. I am proud of what the older generations have done for us. I agree with Claire 100 percent. When you get your nap out, and get your eyes fully opened, you will understand what Claire is talking about.

        • Mark Are

          Apparently you need to reread what Jerry is saying too Wayne. As for Claire? She has a point, but in reality there is no way to know what someone’s agenda is unless you give them time to prove it.
          ME? I think that if you want to rule over your fellow man that you most likely are a psychopath. But stop….maybe a few normal people will get voted in for once. I do consider Ron Paul to be NORMAL. I don’t consider Barrack Obama to be normal. He fits all the formula for the psychopathic personality.

          • Wayne

            Mark Are, either you are reading Claires’s message wrong, or I am reading it wrong. I agree, we need limited government, and less interference from the government. We need honest, fair and principled people as our President, and in Congress. If the Conservative we vote in don’t muster up to our standards, we will vote them out in 2012 like we are going to do witn NObama. What is so wrong with this premise I have?

          • Denniso

            The ‘country’ is like a giant tribe or community. If people don’t work together to help the entire tribe/village to do well,then we are all in trouble to some degree…even the wealthiest,as they still live among us a bit. Rightwingers want to say that a country looking out for all it’s citizens is ‘socialism’…no, it’s common sense. The country worked together in essentially lockstep to win WW 2,rationing,price controls,and other so called ‘socialistic’ things. I can imagine that if we had the same tea party people around then, they would have screamed and threatened just like now…big gov’t,socialism,tyranny,deficits…

            I heard a comment on the coming election yesterday. ‘If the smart people we have sent to Washington can’t get us out of the economic mess we appear to be stuck in, then let’s send in ‘common’ people like us’. Christine O’Donnell,Palin,Angel,etc…Think about the logic there. It’s basically saying that if smart people can’t do the job, then let’s send in dumber people,or people w/ no experience, and take our chances w/ them. Doesn’t make much sense to me. A lot like saying,
            if our NASA engineers/scientists crash a 1/2 billion $ satellite on Mars,as they did some yrs back,then lets try using high school drop outs next time. Make any sense?
            Or, w/ the oil spill in the gulf…when BP couldn’t get the gusher capped for weeks and weeks,why not kick them out and send in a Rotor Rooter man to do what all theexperts couldn’t seem to do.

            Were any tea party or rightwingers suggesting either of those 2 options? So, how on earth does it make sense to send totally inexperienced,naive,untested people to Congress to fix what the veterans there are having a difficult time fixing? If a veteran congressman is corrupt or inept,sure,kick them out. Otherwise,shouldn’t we have the most knowledgable people working there
            in a tough time?
            By the way, what all the ‘smart’ people in D.C. have done is working to a fair degree. The stock market is up almost to it’s level before the crash,which means that people’s retirement and pensions have recovered most of their value. The economy is also not in a panic and spiral downward as it was…we have a reasonable stability,though not a healthy enough economy yet.
            If we go back to the ‘conservative’ prescription you can almost bet that we will face another decade of high unemployment and stagnation.

          • Tony

            No problem with what Claire has said or Mark Are or Wayne … I agree with you all. However, I personally find Claire’s comment’s to be laughable – not because I disagree. But because that is EXACTLY how so many of our career politicians got into office (particularly the liar-in-chief) … on spiel and absolutely no content. All we got was rhetoric – words that seemed to mean what we wanted. But when the content proved-out (at least, and again especially for the liar-in-chief) the content was nearly the exact opposite of what we thought we were promised.

          • Kate8

            I understand what Claire is saying. We need people who want to restore America’s foundation and values, not those who, at government level, use their position to further their own power and largesse.

            As for the people, we need those who take responsibility for choosing statesmen/women who will hold to these ideals. Also, take responsibility for their own lives instead of seeing government as a sugar daddy to provide for them by looting the wealth of others.

            We need to ‘do for our country’ by being involved enough to keep government in check. What our country must ‘do for us’ is protect us from those who would invade us, from without and within, and leave us the heck alone in our personal pursuits of happiness.

          • Tony

            Now Denniso doesn’t understand sarcasm. The point of the comment was not that the people in Washington are actually smart – the point is that they ARE NOT smart. Even the high school dropouts that Denniso suggests we use to run NASA can understand that one cannot spend themselves into prosperity; when you spend more than you have, you go into debt. The Keneysian idiots we elected don’t understand that … just print more money.

            Now apparently it takes more than a high school dropout to understand this next concept but …

            When you print more money, you de-value the money that was existing before the extra printing began. The market has not recovered. It may look nice but the value of money has significantly diminished.

            I’ve got an “in” at NASA, Dennis, if you need employment and desire to preach the praises of the Muslim world for their extensive contributions to math and science.

          • Vigilant

            Denniso said: “The ‘country’ is like a giant tribe or community. If people don’t work together to help the entire tribe/village to do well,then we are all in trouble to some degree.”

            Yes, we know it “takes a village”…too bad there are so many village idiots spewing lwftist “theology.”

          • Vigilant

            …make that “leftist,” small “l” intended.

          • Claire

            Mark Are—The way I look at it is politicians should not say things they are unable to carry out—and backslide the minute they get into office. They should not “promise” things just to get elected. Whatever happened to honest words like these—”I will do the best I can, I cannot promise everything but I will certainly try.” I have more respect for someone like that than a politician saying they will do this and that.

          • Claire

            Kate8– And thank you.

          • a progressive nightmare

            T DUMNISO…………..Dumniso Said: “Were any tea party or rightwingers suggesting either of those 2 options? So, how on earth does it make sense to send totally inexperienced,naive,untested people to Congress to fix what the veterans there are having a difficult time fixing?”

            Answer: I guess in the same way you progressive morons sent OBLAMA to the WH. I mean, are you kidding us or what?????!!!??? You progressives put an ABOSULUTE NOVICE(Alias Community Organizer) in the WH? How DUMB can one be? You seem to exclude YOUR bad decisions in life from the same judgement you place on others. Who appointed YOU as an expert judge on anything because your comments and actions say otherwise.

            Also, who said the people we have in congress are smart? On who’s scale? Yours? If so, that means VERY little to me for sure. You educated idiots have run up a 13TRILLION dollar debt with 125TRILLION in unfunded liabilities and now you insist on spending more?

            You cannot possibly think WE THE PEOPLE are this stupid, can you?

          • Denniso

            Tony…We ran up huge debt as a country fighting WW2. We came out of the war into the late 40′s and 50′s in an economic boom. Just like then, most of the national debt is owned by Americasn citizens, not foreign countries. Unlike individuals, a country can exist prosperously in debt,essentially forever. The vast majority of economists around the world agreed that countries had to spend to replace the lost consummer spending to minimize the impact on everybody. Sure, if the Repubs gain power they will try to cut spending and send us into a 10 yr recession.
            The dollar is holding it’s own against world currencies so it hasn’t lost any great value…the market has recovered about 85% of it’s value. Vote Repub and send us into a deeper tailspin.

            The last part of your comment made no sense,unless it’s meant to be a bigoted remark about Muslims. If that’s what you meant, then screw you. If not,then accept my apology.

          • John Woodbury

            This for Denniso, are you terminally dumb or are you just trying to get a rise out of the readers of this news letter? If you believe half of the stuff (starts with same letter) you say here, please do the world a favor and go to the tallest building you can find, take the elevator up and come right down on your own. The world needs its IQ raised and your demise should help it right along that path. Some of the other libtard posters are at least somewhat sane, but you, boy, need some smarts kicked into you. What part of my money, do you not understand? What part of a safe nation, do you not understand? What part self-reliant, do you not understand? What part of the pols are the problem, do you not understand? We the the people are tired of your PC bull, the solution is simple, stop spending our money; we can do it all by ourselves.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Someone tell denniso his village called. They are missing him.

          • Dan Burke

            Some of us actually saw some of these political actions from the Presidential campaigns. As some radio pundits have pointed out, President Obama made these exact campaign promises before we the people elected him into office. We just weren’t listening. In fact, some of us actually couldn’t stand both presidential candidates (McCain and Obama) because as we listened to their words we realized they were campaigning on exactly the same socialistic/marxist view!!!! The details varied a little but if you boiled it down they weren’t really giving us anything except Progressive and Progressive.

          • Denniso

            John Woodbury,aka dimwit…if I’m so ‘dumb’,why bother w/ me at all? Just write me off as an idiot and ignore me. I have no clue how you came up w/ that stupid comment,but listen genius,you have NO money,NO assets,NO retirement, that wasn’t made all by yourself. NONE…you live in a country that,through taxes,provides a safe environment,is set up for interstate commerce,protects YOU and your money tree from foreign invaders,provides you w/ med insurance when you’re old and feeble and uninsurable, and on and on. You don’t live and work in a bubble…you’re income is only possible because you don’t live in a country like Iraq,Iran,Somalia. You pay dues(taxes)to belong to one of the most free and safe countries in the world,w/ economic conditions that permit most of us to prosper…for those who can’t or don’t,we help them because we are humans.

            Why don’t you try showing some empathy and compassion for your fellow humans instead of selfishness and greed?

          • denniso

            Of course I meant to say that you have nothing that WAS aquired entirely by your efforts. If not for the publicly funded highway system,military,early power generation and transmission,railroads,police,fire depts,sewage and water treatment plants and more,it would not be possible for you and most of us to aquire wealth and possessions and pensions and retirement income. All of the public spending on vital infrastructure has built a country and economy where most of us can prosper. Taxes have paid for the vast majority of such necessities for a modern economy.

        • Ed Lester

          I have noticed that when there is a divergent view expressed, personal attacks ensue. Isn’t this what the elitist liberal left does? Can we not simply listen and consider for a moment if there is a grain of wisdom in the comment? I the poster is truly an idiot, there will be little need to point it out. There is ample evidence that liberalism is a mental illness deriving from an arrested emotional development in pre-adolescence. How about we conservatives demonstrate our soundness of mind by being civil, thoughtful, and courteous. I am also aware that liberals post on this board masquerading as conservatives. But they cannot refrain from references back to the, supposed, golden age in America (Camelot). Needless to say, we should have better heroes and better ideals.

          • eddie47d

            “Liberals have mental illness” and “Conservatives are sound,courteous and civil”. You must have just woke up and are not thinking straight with you’re discourteous comments. Some could ask the question;Why do Republicans go back to the “golden age” of Reagan? Sounds more like splitting the country apart.

          • Kate8

            Yeah, but Eddie, the liberal way of ‘bringing people together’ is to FORCE us all into YOUR agenda.

            Socialists have always killed off those who wouldn’t see things their way.

          • JeffH

            Kate8, you’re beating a dead horse. LOL!

          • eddie47d

            Well Jeff,You are a horses ass.LOL

          • eddie47d

            OH,But Kate; All Muslim nations are very strict Conservatives and very controlling. They know how to use their conservative obedience “very well”. Comply or die! Since you love labeling people I think it’s time to throw it right back. Are you a conservative of that order? You want to bring alittle sass to the table and make accusations then we can all do that. Nothing is solved and Jeff plays that game with is anti-liberal BILE too. (he knows exactly what I mean).

          • Kate8

            eddie, you are such a card.

            Comparing Islam with conservatism in America is absurd. By that logic, you’d think Muslims would vote republican, but they don’t, do they, eddie. No. They vote largely democrat.

            What you said to me is just dopey, and you know it. Yes, I am conservative, which means I believe in personal liberty as laid out by our founders. No one should be forced, against their will, to forge an agenda to which they are opposed. We should be able to pursue our own lives without an overbearing government.

            It is YOU PROGRESSIVES who think in terms of forced compliance.

          • JeffH

            Kate8, you know you’ll get a more intelligent response from a rock than fast eddiot don’t you?

          • Kate8

            JeffH – I try to avoid the liberal posts, but sometimes…

            You’re right, of course, It is futile. It’s like trying to reason with a third-grader.

          • Denniso

            Kate8,don’t be so shallow and unthinking. The conservatives force plenty of their ideology on others…

            1.Repubs want to force women to carry a baby to delivery even against her will.
            2.They believe in forcing people w/ the threat of prison to not smoke a common weed.
            3.Repubs force gay couples to remain unmarried because they fear gay marriage will ‘corrupt’ marriage.
            4.Repubs force citizens to live w/o affordable access to healthcare because they believe it to be ‘socialism’ to have a society where all can see a doctor or go to the hospital w/ facing bankruptcy.
            5.Repubs are blocking action on global warming which will force all of us and our grandkids,not to mention animals/plants,to live in a warming world facing major threats and huge expense to cope.

            Repubs/conservatives are especially fond of forcing others to follow their particular view of morality.Pushing religion and phony patriotism on others.

          • Kate8

            Denniso – That is just more leftist idiotic drivvel.

            Conservatives don’t want to FORCE any of those things. Government needs to stay completely OUT of those areas and allow people to make their own choices.

            What people do is by and large their own affair. As far as gay marriage, government has NO place in a marriage contract, firstly. Secondly, the very word marriage means a union of opposites for a greater purpose, and has always been a man and a woman. Gays can do what they wish, and if government stayed out of such personal decisions, there would be no issue here.

            Healthcare? What about those of us who DON’T want it? Who DON’T use conventional medicine? You think it’s okay to FORCE us to do something wholly against our will just to make sure every last person has SOMETHING? There will always be those who have the least. That is the nature of things. If you who want it want to pool together and do something, then fine. Do it. But count me, and many others, out.

            You libs make no sense. You want to FORCE us all into being the same. You resent achievement and excellence. You are so all about yourselves. Like selfish little children, you want BigBro to take care of you.

            Grow up.

          • Kate8

            Denniso, I seem to remember going over these same ideas before. It is apparent that you are just locked into your progressive talking points, and incapable of understanding the difference between FORCING everyone to do things YOUR way and allowing people to choose for themselves. Government was never meant to micromanage everyone’s life.

            True coservatives are for the SMALLEST possible government. While that is not always the case with RINOs who get into office (who are, actually, progressive infiltrators), true conservatives do not believe government has any business iserting itself into personal issues such as medical care, marriage (which is a religious institution) or anywhere else that should be left to our own judgment.

            The only reason government usurped the marriage contract was so it could take control of the children born of the union. Otherwise, they’d have no way of taking state ownership of them and keeping track of them.

          • eddie47d

            When You and others go into you’re rants about socialists and progressives wanting to kill people off you stoop very low. Muslims are very conservative and I suppose those in this country vote Democrat because the Republicans always want to hang them.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            eddie47 references splitting the country apart. This obamination in the office today, has done more to split and separate this country than any one person I have seen in that office in my life. He lied outright and said he was going to unify, and he has caused the biggest division Ive ever seen. Its huge. He is attempting to divide the populace, the military, and everything. Divide and conquer is his plan, but its not working. In a fews days, his comrades are going to be voted out, and in 2 years, his community organizing butt is getting voted out. Divider is what he is.

          • Wayne

            Denniso, is talking about WW2. Remember, Germany, Japan and a lot of the other countries factories were destroyed. These countries did not have any choice, but to buy their products from the United States, That is what brought our economy back so soon after the war. Our factories were booming back then due to this. That is entirely different today. Foreigners do not need our product, they can buy them from China, Japan and many other countries. Denniso, you are a complete idiot if you think that the economy is going to bounce back like it did in after WW2. You made a statement without any valid thought process before hand.

          • eyeswideopen

            I see that the radical right wingers are still in denial about wanting BIG GOVERNMENT to dictate to others how and what to do with their own bodies. Next you all will be wanting to dictate which religion to belong too. Laughable all of you. Hypocritical is too kind of a word to use. If you want government to stay out of our lives, then don’t try and get government involved with marriage, abortion, religion. Stop trying to shove your religious ideas down the throats of others using the “BIG GOVERNMENT”. Won’t it be funny if the Catholics get control of religion and all you Baptists are treated like Muslims?? Can’t wait to see how you react then. LMAO.

          • Denniso

            Hey there eyes…good to ‘see’ you again. I and a few others have been dealing w/ this nonsense w/o your help for a while now…where have you been? I know, there are many better places to be…real news sites,taking a walk,reading a book…hope to ‘see’ you again. Good luck.

          • libertytrain

            Eyes, sometimes I wonder where you get your ideas – after 12 years in Catholic Schools grade through high school – We were not ever taught to hate Baptists or any other religion by our nuns, priests or lay teachers. And that was through the late 50′s, 60′s and up to and including 1970 through to the present day. Good grief, the Catholic Church in my town is given to use by the Jewish population because they have no synagogue on Saturday eves.– I seriously doubt any religion has anything to fear from Catholics – you are only propagating mindless gossip, again.

          • Denniso

            Liberty…I grew up catholic as well and know that there are differences among Priests,churches,bishops…We were told to never enter another religion’s church. Some fundamentalist religions think the pope is the ‘beast’ and that catholicism is of the devil. When JFK ran in ’60 he had to dissuade the public that the catholic church would control him,since there was so much distrust of it.

            Surely you know that most,if not all, religions claim to have the ‘truth’ and at least by implication tell their followers that others don’t have it,which makes the ‘others’ suspect at the least and frauds at the worst.

            People who aren’t religious and don’t ‘belong’ to one see these facts very clearly from their outside vantage point. Most people mired too deeply in a given religion are blinded by their own narrow views. When it comes right down to it,most religions do not get along,they only have fragile peace agreements that rupture at the first sign of discord and pressure.

          • libertytrain

            Denniso – I guess in my 58 years, in various Catholic Parishes in different parts of the Country, I haven’t been exposed to that type of preaching. Have not been taught any of the things that you state. So sorry if you have been.

          • denniso

            Liberty, no need to be sorry for me. The best thing I ever did in life was get out of the catholic church and all organized religion.

          • eyeswideopen

            Liberty, the point is that when Christians try and impose our beliefs on everyone using the government, we might not like what religion is forced on us. The Baptists would freak if the Catholics were calling the shots,the Catholics would freak if the Mormons were calling the shots etc. but that doesn’t stop us Christians from trying to use the government to impose our beliefs on others. Out of our population of 310 million only 85million are Christians. The Christian religion is losing members on a daily basis. 10 percent in the past 8 years. Point is that the conservatives want to use the government to force Christian beliefs on all others.

          • libertytrain

            Denniso – I’m sure there are many reasons to pity you. And Eyes, we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one – couldn’t disagree with you more so it’s a draw.

          • Denniso

            Well said eyes, and true. Imagine the threats,violence and uproar if Muslims tried to get gov’t to inject their religion into public life,using tax dollars to accomplish it. WOW!! The rightwing would blow their top and call for revolution.

            By the way, I was raised Catholic…I gave it up to pursue other paths. The churches i was in as a kid were heavy handed and overly authoritarian and rigid…I naturally rebelled. I know there are other churches and religions that are much more loving and stress kindness and peace. I have several christian friends who are very good people. I consider eyes a good person,based on what I’ve heard here over the past yr.

        • Claire

          Wayne–thank you.

          • Wayne

            You are welcome, Ma’am. You can see that I am from the old school, Claire, where courtesy still counts. Do you remember when one of the generals were being questioned by Barbara Boxer, I don’t remember his name now, of course we all know tha Barbara Boxer is a good old (Democrat). He answered her statement by saying, yes Ma’am. This did not sit well with old Barbara Boxer. She said, quote, “General would you mind calling me Senator, instead of Ma’am. I worked so hard for this title. I wonder how hard the Geneal worked for his title. I guess this did not count with Old Barbara. I hope after the election we call call her, ex senator, Boxer. We need all the good votes we can get from you good Conservative out there.

          • Claire

            Wayne– I am from the “old school” too. Boxer? Egads, whenever I hear her name, I think of Gloria Alred. So Boxer wants to be called Senator. Okay. She is a Senator. But the way I look at it, a person EARNS the right to be called by their title, PROVIDING they have carried that title justly and honestly. I think I would have a tendency not to call her Senator, I would probably say Ma’am, too.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – I think “Mam” is above her as well.

          • Kate8

            Wayne, have you seen the hilarious campaign ad recreating Boxer’s famous ‘call me Senator’ debacle?

            It’ the best ad I’ve seen. I hope they give awards for stuff like that.

          • Vigilant

            When I was in the Air Force, we said there were two kinds of leaders: those who command respect and those who demand respect. I guess we know which category Boxer falls into.

          • Wayne

            Eyeswideopen, no, the government should not provide it, nor should they hinder it when it comes from the private sector. It is the Communist and Socialist that want you to cease and desist in your private life. A Conservatative would never want this to happen. I will take the Conversative approach over NObama’s Communist approach any time. This country was founded on Christian Values, not Muslim Values. How has the Muslim Countries ever helped us in getting our freedom from England? It was the Americans that fought and died for you and me, and most of the liberals fail to see this. I don’t want to see what has happened in those other countries happen here. If the liberals like that way of life they shoud move, because it was not the liberals who made this country great. It took great courage to do this. I don’t think liberals have that courage. When you look on some of the old government buildings you will see all signs of Christianity, not the sign of Allah, what ever they may be. The Christians has worked to hard to give this country up now. PMillions of people have died for this nation since its inception. I still think they are willing to do this for their families.

      • Mick

        jerry hughes says:
        October 25, 2010 at 9:25 am
        Clare—- you appear to be part of the problem.
        Countries are formed for the benefitof it’s citizens.
        Citizens are not born for the good of the country.

        *********************************************
        jerry…..tell that to the people of Rwanda and countries like it then come back and tell that to the American people when our country falls in the same category, With the type of government we have now, we won’t be far off………..

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I have to agree with Claire. Jerry is wrong, dead wrong.

      • libertytrain

        how in heaven’s name did you determine Claire is part of the problem? Did you read the words she wrote?

        • Vigilant

          I think Jerry read but did not understand what Claire was saying. Claire was directing her JFK quote to the politicians, not the citizenry in general.

          I am reminded of Truman’s comment when he left the presidency. It was to the effect that he was being “promoted” to full citizenship, since his job as president was to be the servant of the people.

          • Claire

            Vigilant: you “got” it, thank you.

          • libertytrain

            True she was directing it at politicians but it doesn’t hurt our “sleeping” republic for all of us to remember those words.

      • Wayne

        Yep! Jerry,I read yous again and I apolize. I guess I didn’t read it close enough. Sorry.

        • Jana

          Wayne,
          Jerry said,
          “Countries are formed for the benefitof it’s citizens.
          Citizens are not born for the good of the country.”
          That is right, but we are electing representatives, not just plain citizens. We should hold them to a higher standard. What they decide affects the whole country.
          To me Jerry is the problem with this country. He doesn’t realize that he is supposed to at least try to elect someone who will be honorable and truthful. Is he one of those who have accepted lying as the standard now?

          • http://libertymind.wordpress.com Patriot1776

            You can’t expect the elected to be any more virtuous than those who elect them.

          • Jana

            Patriot,
            You are so right. That is why I won’t vote for ANYONE in the Democratic Party at this time. They are for turning our country into a Socialist and Marxist country. I don’t trust them AT ALL, and I hate to see anyone being stupid enough to vote for the ruination of our great country.
            Even if they tell us they are against lets say the Health Care Bill. They still voted for it. They didn’t bother to read it. How dumb is that? To me to vote that mentality back in is just plain ignorance. Unfortunately, as you said that is the mentality of those who do vote that type of incompetence back in office. That mentality is what put Obama in office.
            Unfortunately, we will always have the stupid, the ignorant and the just plain gullible among us.

          • http://libertymind.wordpress.com Patriot1776

            Its sad isn’t it Jana? That this is the best we can do as a people. Unfotunatly, you were correct in saying what they (Congress) do affects all of us. It was never meant to be that way. Thats why the founders enumerated the powers delgated to the new general government in the Constitution. To avoid exactly that.

          • Kate8

            Jana, The democrats have had all these laws and plans written up for many years – probably decades – just waiting for the chance to get the power to force them through. How we the people feel is irrelevant to them once they have the upper hand.

            I have NEVER voted for democrats. Never will. I live in CA. I see what destruction they wreak when they have all the power.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I see it different. Countries are formed because of and by its citizens. Its not like some country formed, then put out an add and said come join us. No, not at all. The citizens banded together, usually fighting someone else to secure their freedom, then put together a government of leaders to hold them together and govern. They are formed by and because of its citizens.

          • Jana

            Beberoni,
            You are so right. A Country is formed by its citizens. It also only goes as far as its citizens allow it to. Unfortunately, a lot of our citizens have been asleep for far too long. We are waking up FIANLLY.

      • http://libertydigest american taxpayer

        Jerry, you sir are an idiot. It’s people trying to get everything out of this Country that they can, who are driving us straight off a cliff.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Like all the left wing liberals who continually sit on their arse collecting welfare and food stamps and WIC and unemployment and everyother government handout they can, getting absolutely no where in life, then turning around and voting for these guys that give them the hand outs in the first place that continue to keep them down. Not a very smart lot now are they. And then they want us to pay more to support them. Nope, Ive got a big problem with that, as do many Americans. Were getting sick and tired of it, and your liberal leaders are getting voted to the curbs real soon, and thank God for that.

      • a progressive nightmare

        T DUMNISO…………..Dumniso Said: “Were any tea party or rightwingers suggesting either of those 2 options? So, how on earth does it make sense to send totally inexperienced,naive,untested people to Congress to fix what the veterans there are having a difficult time fixing?”

        Answer: I guess in the same way you progressive morons sent OBLAMA to the WH. I mean, are you kidding us or what?????!!!??? You progressives put an ABOSULUTE NOVICE(Alias Community Organizer) in the WH? How DUMB can one be? You seem to exclude YOUR bad decisions in life from the same judgement you place on others. Who appointed YOU as an expert judge on anything because your comments and actions say otherwise.

        Also, who said the people we have in congress are smart? On who’s scale? Yours? If so, that means VERY little to me for sure. You educated idiots have run up a 13TRILLION dollar debt with 125TRILLION in unfunded liabilities and now you insist on spending more?

        You cannot possibly think WE THE PEOPLE are this stupid, can you?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Yeah, like Obama put experienced people in position? Like he was experienced? This is one of the reason this administration has failed so miserably, is none of them were qualified to be leaders. They are all hanger-ons, seeking more money in their pockets. Aint a one of them got any leadership qualities about them. None. Nada. Zilch. No, no, no talent there at all. Just a bunch of liberals expanding government, creating handouts, buying union votes,hispanic votes, and purporting themselves to be friends of the poor, as they use these same poor to fill their pockets at the working mans expense. FACT.

        • eyeswideopen

          I think the tea partiers are stupid enough to run someone like Christine O’donnell who has made her living off of campaign money for the past 5 years. Which by the way is not legal. But why worry about the little things like the laws?? I predict that some who are elected to Congress will be found quilty of fraud and various illegal actions. We have had to remove Jim Norman from the ballot, the local republican nominee was quilty of not disclosing his fiscal picture. Claiming his wife purchased a vacation home in amount of 435k.and a boat.Only problem is that she has no income, and they file jointly. Of course Rubio, has also made his living off of his political income and the FBI is now investigating him. It will be great if he is removed from office after he wins. Yup, those tea partiers are really something else. OOps, forgot about Joe Miller in Alaska, who used co-workers computers trying to influence a poll, and tried to erase that he had done that..got caught, put on probabtion with job, and then later ended up resigning. Fine example of honesty, that Sarah Palin endorsed. LMAO

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Like all the money George Soros feeds the democrats through all their hidden and underhanded moves is legal? Come on now.

    • Bill sanders

      NO Obamacare, NO Cap & Tax, and NO elimination of the Bush tax cut rates. What else do you need to know, Claire? If they fail to do this, they will see what happened in 06 and 08 all over again. This socialist regime MUST be stopped. This IS the worst government in US history. Compared to Obama, even Jimmy Carter looks good!

      • Warrior
      • eyeswideopen

        I personally hope the radicals win both houses. Then let’s see how they fix the mess that they created. HA Ha. You can’t fix the deficit by allowing the taxes to remain the same…Go to it radicals, let’s see you deregulate everything again. Let’s do away with education, the FDA, medicare, social security, disability (look out JeffH, no more money for you!),EPA, banking regulations, stock market controls, Dept of Energy, etc. When the soup kitchens are miles long, the electric lines are sparking, the old are begging in the streets, the children can’t read, the disabled are living in the streets,the food system is poisoned and there is no more money in the banks…let’s see how many of you stay in this country. We are going to become a third world country within 10 years if the Republicans regain control. They have no plans except to cut taxes, cut spending and let all corporations run wild. Only people making money will be the people who build concrete fences for the wealthy.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          The radicals are running them now eyes, that is why we are in such a mess. Everything was working fine until the democrats got control of congress, and it all started heading south, and you cannot deny that, unless you follow the time line and deny the facts. Your radicals started the ship sinking, and they are removing planks one by one to this day.

    • Wayne

      Claire, the trouble is, the American People have not held their representatives responsible. People should not even vote unless they are willing to take some time out to watch what their representative are voting on while in Congress. It’s ridiculous to vote for some one (hire that person to work for you) and not watch to see if they are doing a good job or not. I received the below message in my e-man and it certainly does not speak well for the people voting in this country.
      “Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do.

      “The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

      • Bill sanders

        The Tea partiers are not new. These people are what for decades were described as the silent majority. They’re not silent any longer and I believe this election will change the political environment for years to come – at least let’s hope so.

        • Wayne

          Let’s thank God some one had the ability, and the initiative to light the fire and bring the Tea Party to life. We need the Tea Party more now than anything else since we have this crazy Communist Regime in power. Looking at it in this respect, maybe NObama was a good thing. At least something good has came out of it.

          • Robert S

            Wayne Maybe you thought Bush’s Nazi Party was better.

          • JeffH

            Robert S, and you think Obama’s Nazi Party is much better?
            Stupid is as stupid does.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Robert S just proved his ignorance. The one guy that stood up to those terrorist enemies that kept blowing stuff up, and little Bobby calls him a nazi. What a piece of work you are Robert S. Now put away your crack pipe and take a nap.

        • Mick

          Bill sanders says:
          October 25, 2010 at 9:52 am
          The Tea partiers are not new. These people are what for decades were described as the silent majority. They’re not silent any longer and I believe this election will change the political environment for years to come – at least let’s hope so.

          **********************************************************
          .Bill,,,You’re right , the tea partiers have been around, too bad they waited so long to exercise THEIR FREEDOM OF SPEECH and let’s hope it’s not too late…

      • Jo Ann

        Not everyone voted for Obama!! Hopefully, the ones who did will wake up!! America has been complacent for too long, we have to fight for our freedom or we will not have it!!

        • Randy G

          Actually , I think people voted Obama in for his skin & no other good reason.

          • Craig

            You are absolutely correct. There is no other reason for anybody to have voted for him. He has no experience in anything pertaining to politics or running anything. He is a very low class individual. He is a narcissist. He hates freedom and all America stands for. He is clueless. more so than the average politician. Lies more than the average liberal politician. The clown has no redeeming qualities what so ever.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Well, I would have to say, that a fact being a fact, that over 93 percent of the black population voted for him, tells a tale of something. I cant say lest I be called a racist, but I guarantee you that if 92 percent of the white population voted for the white guy, there would have been all kinds of stories written. Im just saying……………. And I would have voted for Condoleez Rice if she ran.

      • slickporsche

        I wonder what the ratio of whites to other races that voted for that fool. IT would be very interesting to know this.

      • Kate8

        Wayne, Part of the problem was clearly shown by one of the posters this past weekend.

        Karolyn (bless her heart) says she will vote democrat because the republicans wasted too much money on mailers and campaign ads. Plus, she claimed, they were nastier in those ads.

        This is, it seems, why most people vote the way they do. They are swayed by the rhetoric and their own ideas about what they see happening, instead of doing some research on how the candidates have conducted themselves in the past, how they voted, what they stand for.

        Of course, in spite of what she said, I imagine she would only EVER vote democrat because she is liberal leaning, and the ‘mailer’ thing was just blowing smoke. But the point is, too many people just can’t be bothered to dig any deeper than the “campaign rhetoric” (which, in Obama’s own words is meaningless).

        • JeffH

          Kate8, once again you’ve nailed it. Thanks!

        • Wayne

          Kate8, I keep repeating over and over, don’t vote for a person because they are either a Democrat, or a Republican. Forget the party, look at the individual person to see what they stand for. Follow the peron you think you might want to vote for. If they are lying in their TV adds, on the radio, or where ever, they will eventually slip up just like NObama did. Whether it makes any difference or not, I have heard NObama on three different occasions slip up. While being interviewed on TV, Nobama said, on three different occasions, of course, that he was a Muslim. He says he is a Christian, but if you watch his actions toward Christian and Muslims anyone can tell that he is a Muslim by whom he favors. You find me a Democrat that will not back NObama’s Socialist agenda, is honest, has principles, a decent person, will think for himself by making sound decisions before voting on a bill, will read the bill before voting, a good family man, I will vote for him even though I am a Conservative. That kind of person would be a conservative even though he would be running on the Democratic ticket. I will not vote for a crook, a person who votes for everything that NObama wants just because he is a Democrat, in name only, of course. In my opinion NObama is a Communist masquerading as a Democrat. If you follow things that are happening you can clearly see that this great nation of ours are heading down to be a Socialistic, or a Communist nation. Who would want a third world nation for for their children? Over the years I have seen the grocery shelves in Russian nearly bare and their people going hungry. In a Communist, or a Socialist Nation, when you have to share everything you make with others, you lose you desire to do better. When you see another person sitting on their butts drinking in the bars at night and sleeping all day long while you are out working to pay you bills, and to pay this person bills, it would take the desire out of anyone. Believe me when I say this. I have seen it all. I was in law enforcement for over thirty years and this, my friend, is a real eye opener. If your have never been exposed to any of this, just thank your lucky stars you have not. Too many people expect the government to keep them. It is not the government that is keeping them, it is you and me, the working folks who keeps these lazy bums. Over the years I have noticed that it is mainly the Democrats who vote for all this give away crap, just to get votes I suppose. I am 72 years old so I have been around to see a lot. I say, let’s clean up the mess in Washington D.C. and get America back on the right track again. Let’s put people in Congress who still believes in the American Dream. A lot of Congress has voted to not make this nation English speaking. This is our country, learn to speak its language, or leave. If I would ever go to another country I certainly would not expect them to learn English. Another thing I hate is all this political correctness we have in this country. When we enter a lot of stores at Christmas Time we see Happy Holidays, not Merry Christman, we see Xmas for the abbreviation of Christmas. Why do we want to take Christ out of Christmas. Arn’t we celebrating Christ’s birth day. If we are not celebrating Christmas why do we take that day off of work. We may as well work and tell people we don’t believe in Christmas and that is why we are working. I could go on and on, but hopefully you wil see my point.

          • Jana

            Wayne,
            I have always voted for the man, but this year if he or she has Democrat after their name I won’t. I have come to see that even those that I thought I could trust that were in the Democratic Party caved in to Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid when push came to shove.
            I think the Democratic party is lost. My hope is in the Republican party, if we can get people in there that will listen to the people, as well as the Libertarian Party.

          • Claire

            Wayne: Good post! I agree with you. Very good choice of words.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          The only way I could vote democrat, is if I fully believe in murdering babies in their mothers wombs, fully believed it was ok to sodomize your buddy, and fully believed we should give terrorists appeasement and tolerance. But since I cant do these things, I cant vote for them, as they stand fully supported to these illigitimate actions that are vile and disgusting and damning to America.

      • Claire

        Wayne-Thank you for the words. Very interesting read.

        • Wayne

          Claire, Thank you very much. This is the way I really feel. I have seen a lot over the years … I served 4 of those years in the USAF, and as I stated above, 30 long years in law enforcement. I feel that the experience I have gained over those years working around all different kinds of good, and bad, gives me a special edge over the average person not exposed to these hazards.

          • Claire

            Wayne–My son, Tim, was in the USAf for 4 years and then in Air Guard for 12 years. I am so proud of him–he truly is a wonderful, decent, and honest guy. So you were in law enforcement! I edit lots and lots of manuscripts on law enforcement/criminal justice/terrorism/ and forensics. The police books are my favorites. I edited Werner Spitz’s book “Medicolegal Investigation of Death” it was something! Dr. Spitz was consulted regarding the O.J. Simpson trial and all the other well-known trials. His son Daniel is following in his father’s footsteps.
            You are to be commended for your 30 years in law enforcement.

      • Bill from Laos

        You hit the nail right on the head, Walter. Unfortunately, too many Americans are busy and the sources of information – our illustrious mainstream media – is poor at best. We DO need to monitor our elected representatives in Washington regularly. For too long, they have enjoyed working in the recesses of darkness, very similar to totalitarian regimes the world over. Look at Obama & Co. how they shun transparency and even want to tamper with the Internet. However, I recommend viewing a new online newspaper which reports on what’s going on in the dark halls of Congress. Right now, they’ve made the effort to compile how every member of Congress voted on Obamacare and Elena Kagan – just in time to refresh voter’s minds for election day. Go to

        http://www.usintel.net

    • bruce d.

      Claire if you listened to what these new canidates are saying you would know what they stand for. Bob has been listening and that is why he was able to write this insightful article.

      • Claire

        bruce d — Fine. You have your opiion, I have mine.

        • Claire

          Whoops! “opinion”

          • Jana

            Claire,
            I agree with you on this. They have people they hire to tell them what to say, called Campaign Managers. They can tell you what they want you to hear and then do what they want once they are elected. You never know a person totally, but we can tell who and what they are by the people they have surrounding them, and then by how they vote. If they vote wrong then we get rid of them and try again.
            WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP.

          • Claire

            Jana–You are correct– We will never give up. We are “onto” them now and they dang well better realize this. Have you noticed in some of the speeches the politicians are giving–it is almost like they are quoting posts from this blog. They read these sites. And they use some of the information from these posts in their speeches. Wonder how many will follow through with what they preach?

      • Robert S

        Bruce When a candidate has to read a script to tell you what he stands for that shows he is being pushed by someone else. Why can’t they speak without reading?

        • JeffH

          Obama most certainly can’t…what’s with all the uhhh, mmmm, uhmmm’s when he ad libs? Ya think?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            It shows he cannot come from his heart with what he says. Bottom line. If its from the heart, it comes out. He is so full of baloney, that he only stands for what George Soros and his party tell him to stand for. Thats it.

    • JC

      Wow Claire, you certainly started some controversy.
      I don’t think some of these folks know you as the true conservative that you are and have taken your thought out of context.

      • JeffH

        I second that JC…Go Claire!

        • Claire

          JeffH–Thank you! I showed Vinnie at 8:00 a.m. He took Winners Dog and got his picture taken. Hooray!!!

          • JeffH

            Yea for Vinnie. Congratulation! In dog we trust..

          • Claire

            JeffH—Hmmmm Wonder if I could get Vinnie to run for office? In dog we trust ir certainly true.

          • JeffH

            Vinnie would get my vote. At least you can train him to be honest…

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            And you know Vinnie will always be loyal to you, and not appease and tolerate those trying to kill you. We could learn from dogs.

          • Claire

            Beberoni–Yes, we can learn a lot from dogs. Patience, peace of mind, loyalty, and honesty.

        • libertytrain

          Claire – Vinnie certainly couldn’t do any worse for Chicago politics and I’m guessing he’d be something most politicians aren’t – Honest and sincere.

      • Claire

        JC– Yes, I noticed. It was not my intent. I just posted that sentence from JFK because I believe it has a lot of merit.

        • Jana

          Claire,
          That statement by JFK still does have a lot of merit, and thank you for posting it.
          Congratulations on Vinnie.

          • Claire

            Jana–Thank you! I am happy you agree. Also, thanks on Vinnie’s behalf. He was a handful but he did good.

    • libertytrain

      Claire – I still recall listening to his saying those words back in that cold January – gave me goose bumps. I was about 9 years old. I wanted to pack my bags and join the peace corp. But nonetheless, after all these years I still think about those words – Ask not what this COUNTRY can do for YOU, but rather WHAT YOU CAN DO for this Country. That needs to be played over at welfare offices and unemployment offices all over this country. Interesting study was done on unemployment using different countries in the world. If unemployment was 4 years, people would not get a job till the 4 years was over, if 2 years people magically found jobs at 2 years…. -
      Perhaps those in office and running for office should be required to listen and watch him give that speech daily.

      • Claire

        libertytrain–I am glad you understood my post. Too many politicians are “in it” for themselves. As American citizens, we need to do a “thorough” housecleaning. There are numerous posters on this site that are correct in what they say. I will vote for the person, not party. I lean Conservative, but not RINO. I become disppointed because there are some good cadidates but they will never be elected because they don’t have the money. This is a shame. I sometimes think “money talks” and honesty “walks.”

        • Claire

          “candidates”

      • Claire

        libertytrain–I forgot to tell you–My husband, my father-in-law and I went to see JFK at the armory in Springfeld when he was campaigning. We were just a few feet away from him. Gosh! He was awesome! And his eyes! The charisma, the courtesy, and he shook hands with us. He shook hands with many many people that night. I am glad that I was able to see him in person like that. I was young, and I wanted his autograph so bad! I liked Jacquie a lot too. She was so elegant and so gracious. Out of all the President’s wives, I liked her and Laura Bush the most. But dang it! Why did Jacquie marry Onassis??!! Yuck.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Those two former first ladies you mentioned, brought a lot of grace and style and elegance to the White House and to this country. That is another thing we have lost since 2008. What a shame.

    • Bus

      If they want to find “blithering incompetents and wacko weirdos they just need to read this comment page.

      • Vigilant

        That’s true, Bus.

        You are, of course, talking about the leftist lemmings who couldn’t find their backsides with a map, flashlight and both hands.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Vigilant__Well said ma man!!

        • Claire

          Vigilant: What is laughable is that he posted too–isn’t he in the same category now? LOL

      • JeffH

        You’ve provided a classic example of that in just one sentance.

    • Ed Lester

      Dear Claire, all elections are a crap shoot to some extent. We probably need to turn to sage and sound conservatives for our credos such as Dr. Sowell rather than departed democrats. Or better yet ask yourself: Did I get the truth from J.F. Kennedy? Having no crystal ball, we cannot know what our conservatives candidates will acccomplish or attempt. But I am aprepared to gamble a little, in that I will vote for an inexperienced conservative in lieu of an experienced liberal almost every time. Perhaps agenda is not the best word for this discussion. It has to many seriously bad connotations. But perhaps that is what you intended?

      • Vigilant

        Hit it right on the head, Ed!

        A vote for a liberal is guaranteed failure. A vote for a conservative is possible success.

      • Claire

        Ed Lester–I quoted the line from JFK because of its’ meaning. I personally believe there is an impact in those words that every politician should think about once in a awhile. Those words have a definite meaning–is the politician running for himself/herself or do they actually care about the problems of America? JFK was the only president that tried to do away with the Fed, wasn’t he? How many Democrats and/or Republicans have tried to do this? I voted for JFK and I also voted for the Bushes. But I no longer cling to any party–I will be voting for the person I think will be the best person for the job. I will tell you this- I lean Conservative but it rather gripes me that Conservatives are connected to the Republican party, for example, McCain, Gingrich, and some of the others (Karl Rove) that haven’t necessarily been “good” for the GOP. Perhaps the “Conservatives” could simply be their own party? Farfetched, but it would be nice.

    • Iceman91

      Claire says:
      “Like JFK said, it is not what America can do for you–it is what you can do for America.”

      This is one of the most Marxist statements ever made by an American, what is the difference between this statement and “…from each according to his ability.”

      Americans should remember that their government was created by them to serve them, not to enslave them. If our government is going to step out of our way and allow us to succeed, it must also allow us to fial. It should not confiscate the profits of the successful (in taxes) to support those who fail.

      • Claire

        Iceman91–I never interpreted that statement to be Marxist. And I did not post it as a Marxist statement. Apparently you interpret it differently and that is your right, your opinion. However, your opinion is different from mine. I am not a person that promotes or condones Marxism.

      • JeffH

        Iceman91, if that is all you get fro that quote, which by the way is:
        And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.

        Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
        Inaugural Address by John F. Kennedy – January 20th 1961

        • Kate8

          JeffH – Thanks for giving the whole quote. That certainly clairifies it for those who took it to the moon.

          • Claire

            My fault– I should have posted the entire quote. Thanks, JeffH.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And that is the main intent of the democratic party. To punish the successful and reward the failures. They constantly attack successful people and business’s, and reward those who wont work with more unemployment, more food stamps, more welfare, and take business that dont have a clue what to do, such as GM and Chrysler, and reward their bad behavior by giving them billions of our dollars. Its wrong on so many levels. This is, what democrats do. They punish success, and reward failure. I guarantee you that if JFK lived today, he would run on the Republican or Libertarian ticket. He would run from the democrats. No doubt about it.

    • newhon63

      Exactly. Democrats and Republicans. What’s the difference? They go about things different ways but essentially the end result is not to better America. It’s to change whatever they need to change to get as much money into their pockets as they can before their term is up and they are found out. This article shows that our politicians are all about themselves. They have no idea how to deal with the fact that people across the country are waking up to this fact.

      Unfortunately it took Obama getting into office and wrecking havoc on an already troubled nation but you know what they say. ” Sometimes you have to hit rock bottom to start coming up again”
      The nation is watching now. Universities are adopting policies that keep illegal aliens from gaining education without citizenship. Now if we can get some leaders in office, then we can start telling these other nations to take care of their own people and don’t depend on us to burp their babies. Plug the holes that illegals are getting into the country through. Create jobs so the unemployed can get back to work. Get health costs under control, Dump ObamaCare out of the window. Then he will have to get a real job when he is out of the White House. Pay the nations we owe, Get the money from those that owe us. Wheat will have the same price as a barrel of oil. Oil goes up, Wheat goes up. America needs to get tough on the rest of the world. If they don’t like playing on a even playing field. Don’t do business with us. We don’t need the shotty products the world sells us anyway. OH and BTW. We have the ground you can grow things in. Muwahahahahahahahahahaha. When you get hungry enough you’ll be back but do it before we double the price. 1 bushel of wheat, 2 barrels of oil.

  • s c

    Since when is ‘no prior political experience’ a liability? Washington is a sewer disguised as a whore house. ‘Sucking up’ is the prime political ‘skill’ needed in Washington, and it takes VERY LITTLE time to become an adept.
    Speaking of ‘prior political experience,’ The Obummer has put himself in an awkward position if he dares to conclude that HIS ‘prior political experience’ enhanced his “ability” one by one iota. Selling himself to join the Washington country club was The Obummer’s entry ticket. He will leave the White House as just another junior and former Senator.
    If he’s lucky, and if his puppet masters have complete control over our laws, he won’t spend any time behind bars. If there’s any TRUE social justice in America, well, it might get interesting, people.

    • Wayne

      Amen s c. I agree with you on this one. Being in Congress for 20, 30 or even 40 years don’t give them common sense. This is something we are born with. Look at Crooked Charlie Rangel’s 38 years of experience. Has this given him any common sense. He is a tax cheat and has made millions since he has been in office. If your crooked you can go to Congress and come out rich. How do you suppose they do that? Every one has to start from the beginning, or from the first floor up, so let’s give these new comers a chance to see what they can do. We do not want to mix rotten apples with fresh apples so let’s get rid of the old members of Congress and keep a better eye on the new members of Congress and make sure they do their jobs for all of us, not just for themselves.

      • alpha-lemming

        I’ll go you one better. After 20-40 yrs in DC, common sense (We’re actually lucky it hasn’t been made illeagl), not only fails to materialize, has atrophied into a “throw-back” rudimentary organ akin to the vermiform appendix or T-Rexes fore-limbs.

      • newhon63

        OMG,

        I was not sure if there was anyone else out there that believed as I do. Clean out everyone in Congress and the Senate. Leave no one left inside. That way all the vote trading and double dealing will be null and void. Can’t pull a string if you are not in Congress anymore.

        I think the first thing that happens to a freshman Congressman or Senator is they are taken aside and told” Ok, things are done this way, You play ball and you will see another term, Try playing that for America thing and we will make sure you wake up with a call girl smelling like booze and we will get it all on film and you will be out before ya know it.,” Toss out all of them and get the new blood in, then they can do what is right without the pressure of the Veteran Politician that has the whole place wired so they can get anything passed they want. Power to the PEOPLE.

        Statesmen over politicians.

    • Kate8

      s c – It was never intended that our elected officals be career politicians. Quite the opposite, in fact. They were supposed to be our peers, people who understand ‘us’ because they are ‘us’, and who will work for OUR interests. They were to be businesspeople, with their own source of livelihood, who would serve and then go back to their lives at the end of their terms.

      It’s of no value to us to elect a DC insider. All that means is that they have polished their ability to lie, cheat, deceive, take bribes, serve TPTB. They are experts at Washington doublespeak. And they, themselves, are dependent on government for their incomes, and will naturally make decisions and laws that benefit themselves first.

      • Vigilant

        Kate8:

        “They were to be businesspeople, with their own source of livelihood, who would serve and then go back to their lives at the end of their terms.”

        Not just businessmen/women, please. Washington, Lincoln and many others were not just businessmen. And please don’t forget former military, some of whom were great.

        It’s a shame that the percentages of veterans in Congress have decreased over the years. As a result of this, Congress has failed to take care of our miltary folks.

        Regarding “insiders,” they all become insiders after a period of time. Gingrich’s 1994 Congressional group of Repubs came to DC with the highest conservative aspirations. Two years later they had been co-opted by the system and had pretty much abandoned their principles.

      • Kate8

        Vigilant, The point was, they were not meant to be in Congress for life. That is what breeds so much corruption and self-interest.

        When an elected official has to spend 5 hours of every day raising campaign funding for the next election, it is inevitable that they sell their souls to those with the biggest contributions to their funds.

        Our founders knew this, and hoped we’d realize it, too. I guess they gave us too much credit.

        • Vigilant

          Point taken, and I agree with you.

      • Wayne

        Kate8, I did see that “I worked so hard for this job, general. Thanks, I really did enjoy it. It is on this youtube wehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kcuM0wPBPgbsite:

  • JeffH

    Most of us are sick and tired of the arrogant attitude that consumes the DC brats. I know I’m sick and tired of the misrepresentation, lies and attack adds that consumate the political adds on radio and tv. For the most part, Americans are tired of it too! The incumbents continue to use the political doublespeak and sure as hell the Democrats skirt the issues and refuse to debate or run on their records, especially the health care debacle. Nuff said, I’ve done my homework and have mailed in my votes already. I just hope, in California, it’s enough to say good bye Brown, Boxer and Pelosi and enough of the voting public has learned from the Obamanation called “Hope and Change” and cast some sensible votes for some real Hope and Change.

    • Ruby

      JeffH: I’m glad to know you didn’t vote for Brown, Boxer or Pelosi! I, too, will not be voting for them.

      • JeffH

        Ruby, this vote will determine whether I continue my residency or move to higher ground.

        • Claire

          JeffH– Living in Illinois I understand what you are saying. Totally.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        My gosh California. Look how bad of shape you are in. Quit electing these selfish liberal pocket liners. Get rid of them this year, and do yourselfs and your country a favor. And Ahnold should go to, as he is about as qualified as Obama, and has been just as big a failure.

  • Dan Az

    Im just glad that I dont have a tv and have to listen to all this bull.All the information on everyone of these scum bags is on the internet and if it wasnt for this site and WND and others I wouldnt have even given them a second look.Thanks to Bob Livingston and all of you here I have made good choices and I spread the word with everyone that I came into contact with to go to the internet and look up these sites before you vote and it amounted to hundreds of voters that are now seeing the truth.Thanks guys and gals keep up the good fight!

  • Angel Wannabe

    To coin an expression, thinking outside of the box, is what caused the Founders to create the Constitution & ultimately America in the first place!__I suppose they could’ve been considered wack-jobs, but with the grace of the Good Lord, the Founders did it!__Obama’s leftist, and the devil may care attitude, is ridiculous and dangerous to the Constitution, and is explained so well by John Adams in the phrase that
    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other”.

    The word wack-job easily describes the current administrations attempts to Socialize us from within. Which in my opinion, they are about 30 years too soon. Had the Progressives in Washington, waited until, most of the baby boomers were gone, they’d have had a better shot at pulling it off!__But there’s still enough of us left, that remember the real truth of freedom, and never bought the revised one. Our kids have been informed and are seeing the light!
    The Progressives have tried to drive ALL PUBLIC OPINION through there own news sources for years,(which in our area the channels are 3-6-10) cnn, msnbc, NPR, but, there is thankfully, enough alternative news source’s to give us another point of view, to critical think. And that simple fact, just completely p*sses off the left!! Washington you can tax us to death, regulate every inch of our lives, try to squash our ruggedness and beliefs in a God you can’t see, but you’ll NEVER take the spirit of the American people to thrive. Don’t ever forget it!

    • Barb

      This is beautiful Angel and it speaks very loudly for the Tea Party movement. This is what I think the Tea Party is all about!! And you are right about the Baby Boomers but in 30 years our children will be fighting the good cause and the Progressives won’t stand a chance once again! Hopefully by then their children will have figured out what these people are doing to our country and will carry on the cause, etc., etc.! Common sense and hard work and love for our country, constitution and our God will prevail, Nov. 2, 2010 will be a huge day in U.S. history!

    • TIME

      Angel,

      Thinking outside the box is what makes everything work. When one stays firmly in a box nothing ever changes, nor can one gain as we know Change happens rather we like it or not.
      Thats why we try and stay just ahead of that curb all the time.

      Politicians want you to stay in tight form fitted box’s and shut up. So when you don’t do as your told they get cranky like kids with a big phat load of crap in their pants.
      Thats why politicians like PigOsee say stupid things that anyone who has gray matter finds just outright crazy like;
      “We need to pass the bill to know whats in it.”

      • Angel Wannabe

        TIME, This is precisely why I think it was hellish important, that Juan Williams, a Liberal Fox news Contributor & NPR radio personality, had to have been made an example of.(he was fired because of a statement concerning his fears, boarding planes with Muslims wearing traditional garb)__ Nothings gonna change unless some of this political correct sh*t invilves these Liberals. In essence, the Progressives begun to eat they’re own spawn. Destruction eventually begins to destruct itself from within. What a better way to have them self destruct, than by they’re own hand and God’s will.

        • sylviam

          Angel– Bob Livingston didn’t say Juan Williams was a Liberal but that he woyuld on occation give the liberal comments to make sure that BOTH sides were given on a subject. But I think he was a conservative or seemed like one for the most part.
          Either way the *people* that fired him LOST A GOOD MAN, & Fox News *got* that GOOD MAN opn their team hope he stays.
          The tea party is made up out of PEOPLE just like you and me, NOT either party nor NUTS, but plain old folks that want OUR COUNTRY BACK. WE DO NOT WANT COMMUNISIUM OR SOCIALISM BUT * The United States that is.
          GOD BLESS AMERICA

          • sylviam

            OOPS—– Sorry bout the typos but no got my eyes open yet. A cup of coffee will fix that I hope.
            GOD BLESS AMERICA

          • Kate8

            Juan Williams always counted himself firmly in the liberal camp, but not so fanatical that he didn’t have sense.

            It takes being bitten to see the light. He even commented about now being able to see their hypocracy. I hope the truth continues to sink in with Juan, because he is too decent a guy to dwell with vipers.

          • Angel Wannabe

            sylvam, Juan Williams IS a Liberal. NPR is a leftist radio program. Whom Soros gave a whoppin 1,8 million to the fund!!__I say pull all they’r epublic funding and since soros is loaded, and pulling the strings, then let him fund the whole damn thing!!!__ I don’t agree with everything Juan says, but you can hear more and more of what he says, has moved a little farther to the middle. Which in my opinion, is the real reason he got canned from NPR!

        • JeffH

          Angel Wannabe, I applaud and agree with everything you have said.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          The dems are cannibalizing themselves as we speak. Thats why all these guys are quitting and running for the hills. The distancing has started. Some democrats running for office are saying they arent like Pelosi and degrading her to make themselves look good, yet they voted with her on everything she wanted. Soon, they will start eating Obama. He will resign before the 2012 election, because they know he is toast. I have no doubts about it, and they will eat each other in the quest for the top stop. Watch and see, its coming pretty quick.

    • bruce d.

      Nice blog Angel. The Progressive baby boomers started to make a difference early in the 60s and 70s. The Conservative baby boomers are late but “better late than never”. It is an exciting movement.

      • Angel Wannabe

        bruce d, It is an exciting time! Unfortunately, it took people reacting Conservatively against, a movement towards Socialism. Most people think, why fix it, if it aint broke. Reagan warned us in 61, that Socialism would creep in, disguised as Health Care Reform. Well hello, it’s here. We’ve become accustomed to letting Washington to think for us. What its left us with, is a bunch of youth, who think they’re owed a living. And What really gets me is, that the most affluent & successful people of the private sector,” capitalism “, are some the biggest supporters of Socialism???__ It doesn’t make any sense. I can hardly believe they’re that stupid.

        • Madazhell

          Angel,
          The elitists all have the same agenda and you can get a wondeful education on who what when where and why by reading G. Edward Griffin’s book.
          about Jeckyll Island. I would post the complete title, but I have done that before and my post was censured.

          • Robert S

            Creature from Jeckyl Island

          • Angel Wannabe

            yepper, Ronald Reagan was asked “How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

    • http://www.America-Betrayed-1787.com Oliver Woods

      In reality the founders broke the earlier colonial covenants with God, substituting His authority with that of “we the people.” As if that weren’t bad enough, they elevated “this Constitution and the laws of the United States made in pursuance thereof” to be the “supreme law of the land”, thus tossing out the law of God in the Bible.

      And for icing on the cake, they presumptuously declared that “no religious test shall ever be required for any office or public trust under the United States.” By doing that they slammed the door on the most important Biblical qualification for public office and opened the door wide so that “Pagans, Deists and Mahometans might obtain office among us.” That’s how one of the Anti-Federalists put it during the ratification debates.

      If we throw the bums out in this election, God will only raise up other bums to judge us even more severely until we repent of our Constitutional idolatry. Because of these and other pluralistic/polytheistic heresies enshrined in the U.S. Constitution Muslims have a wide open door for invasion. Our fall is no less certain than the fall of Lebanon and the fall of Europe in progress. We are being judged like Solomon for rejecting the law of God in our idolatrous Constitution.

      Oliver Woods
      The Last Anti-Federalist

      • Dagney

        It must be He** being you. The way you twist things! It’s amazing!

      • S.C.Murf

        Thanks Oliver

        up the hill
        airborne

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        We truly are amassed in sin my friend. And sin will take you farther than you want to go, and it will keep you there longer than you want to stay.

    • http://naver samurai

      100% agree Angel! You rock! Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Angel Wannabe

        hey samurai, heard you were under the weather__welcome back!!

    • slickporsche

      WE also need to return to your quote That the constitution is only good for a moral and religious (christian)people. I don’t think anyone will ever convince me that our founding fathers were referring to these other whacky religions when they were talking about religious freedom.I think it was more an issue of which Christian church and not so much which religion, such as Budism, Islam, or other crazy business.

      • Angel Wannabe

        The founders weren’t referring to other religions, only the God of all!__People have the freedom to choose whom they worship, but to try to change the original intent, to they’re way of liking is just a lie. But before we dispute that fact, we have to know the truth first. Thankfully we have an awakening going on.

      • James

        Slickp. All of the Founding Fathers were white Christians, two were Catholic and the rest were Protestant. The only reason ‘Christian’ wasn’t in the First Amendment, instead of ‘religion’ was because there were umpteen different Christian religions here. Virginia even had a state-approved protestant religion and taxed its citizens to support it. Jefferson didn’t like that part of it.

        • Robert S

          Most of the founding fathers were Freemasons.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Christians and protestants are the same. I am a Christian Protestant, as are Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians and many more. Catholics, Protestants, Lutherans. We all claim Jesus Christ as our Lord and King. Therefore, we are Christians.

  • ALFRED E. NEUMAN

    Unless there is a clean sweep of the “One Worlders”, this November 02, this nation is doomed to a ONE PARTY RULE which will become a MARXIST STATE, just like Cuba, and the rest of the failed COMMUNIST REGIMES, around this world. No where MARXISM has been tried has it SUCCEEDED, but failed miserably, and the cost of SLAUGHTERED HUMANS in the MULTI-MILLIONS! That is FACT!

    • bruce d.

      Nov. 2 is only the beginning. It cannot be done in only one election. The Tea Party and other Constitutional Conservative have to stay in it for as long as it takes. If they don’t then then and only then will there be failure. Do not give the One Worlders too much credit. There has not been a whole scale resistence to them until recently. They will not give up but their cages have been rattled. They think a barrage of name calling will put an end to it. Only the foolish are paying attention to it now.

      • Kate8

        bruce d., Some of the European countries tried to resist, but they were made deals they couldn’t resist.

        Just look at Ireland, who only recently relented. They held out for a long time, wanting no part of the EU. So their economy was collapsed and the people were starving and desperate. They finally accepted it in order to feed their families.

        They are doing this to us, too. God help us, I hope we can turn it around. But unless we return to holding ourselves accountable to God for those we put in office, and how we conduct our lives, I just don’t see how we can avert disaster.

        TPTB will continue to put pressure on our economy and increase our misery until we cry ‘uncle’. Since the powers are foreign, control the money and hold a really big stick, we’ll see how much mettle we still have in America. Remember that the third-world immigrants we’re being flooded with (along with a large portion of our indoctrinated youth) don’t carry the American spirit for freedom, since they are largely on the receiving end of government ‘assistance’. And how many of us rely on Medicare to make ends meet?

        We Boomers may be getting old, but we still have some fire left in us. It’s going to be up to us to carry the torch.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Right On Kate8!!

        • http://gunner689 gunner689

          Kate: I was in Ireland a few months before their vote to join the EU. While travelling around I spoke with many people on this issue. At the time Ireland was in an economic boom period known as the Celtic Tiger. Ireland was pure Ireland; the towns, the shops, the pubs, the culture, and the people were, except for tourists, Irish. Their children were talanted and educated and most everyone was working. There had been A murder in Dublin a couple of weeks before and it was talked about on TV and radio every day as a rare occurance.
          The average person I spoke with was uniformly against joining the EU, after fighting for their freedom from England for hundreds of years. But the banks and the large corporations were in favor of joining for reasons of corporate expiediency and promised relaxation on trade restrictions. That fall they joined the EU. I went back for a visit a couple of years later. The country had changed dramatically and for the worse. Their economy was in the dumper, the crime rate had sky rocketed, drug use was over-whelming, the country was used as a dumping ground, by the EU, for foreign workers. Irish kids couldn’t find decent jobs because of the influx of cheap labor. Plans were being made to bring in Walmarts and other big box stores, which would kill the small towns. Sound familiar? That lovely little country is going down the same road America started down about 35 yrs. ago. That is what a global economy and worse a global gvt. holds for everyone. A shared misery. A redistribution of wealth from prosperous countries to third world rat holes. For the sake of our nations and our children’s future this trend must be stopped by all means possible, even war if necessary.

          • BrotherPatriot

            I don’t have much time at the moment so I have been skimming the comments…I want very much to post to all the so very many other comments that deserve it…but yours…I HAVE to comment.

            What you say there…guner689 is spot on. Really. Spot on. This is a planned attack. This is what THEY want…world discord covered by a sugar coating of one world government (corporation) that is for the “good” of the masses. <— NOT. It's evil…is what it is. (Georgia Guidestones…search that one!) Without knowing you…without taking the time to fully research what you are saying…I have to take it at face value and I honestly DO believe that what you are saying is true. From what I do already know…it fits the template of their silent war…

            http://www.scribd.com/doc/2468956/Third-World-War-the-Bilderberg-Group

            That document…if you take the time to read it…sure makes sense and adds together like math. It backs up what you describe…and it fits into the mold of what they are trying to do to America.

            Really wish I had more time to write…I'll come back later and post more. Some of the others may be able to add to this…JeffH, Claire, kate8, Anthony, Time, j c…etc,…?

            We really have to take to heart what you, others, and I are saying about the social degenerates who are screwing up our world. Sure hope the common sense kicks in after Nov 2nd…and that our newly elected don't bow down to the offers of money but instead exposes those making the offers…!!! There is more…so much more to life than money…! Our elected HAVE to be accountable…and hopefully we will get some to begin to shout out about the corruption and begin helping WE THE PEOPLE to end it. (Well…there basically will always be corruption but hopefully not on the NWO scale that we now have become aware of that indeed does exist.)

            God Bless and hopefully I gave some of you something to begin researching!

          • Kate8

            BP – We need to break free of the FED, and of all foreign interests. We need to have, once again, have our own sovereign currency.

            We need to give Soros and the Bilderbergs the boot. Take back our country. Stop importing immigrants from third world countries who don’t value anything about America but the welfare checks. We need to close our borders and stop all immigration until we get things straightened out and those who are here make a choice: assimilate or leave.

            I also believe we need to keep our military out of other countries unless they pose a true threat to us. No one wants war but TPTB.

            We need to bring back our own farming, manufacturing and innovation, and keep the government out of their way. Stop funding government programs, and let the free market create jobs.

            Most of all, we need to return to honor and the values we once held, by remembering Who gave us this great nation.

            But that’s just me.

          • BrotherPatriot

            ^^ Roger that, Kate8…Roger that! ^^

            Always nice to read your work!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Good post Kate8. I think most of us American’s would be sickened if we actually knew the total amount of monies we give to foreign countries, and we would be really pissed if we saw how much was given to terrorist nations that are out to kill us. And our government gives them millions of dollars. Its time to stop this madness. How can you give money to others, when you owe yourself? This is insanity. Cut the ungrateful son of a guns off, pay off our debt, and take care of our people here and keep our military strong for our protection. And true, Im tired of our government giving people here handouts that come from the pocket of all of us that work, but it pisses me off even more when I know they are sending money to Pakistan and Iran and places. Its just not right.

        • Robert S

          Time is running out. Gas will be going to $5.00 or more per gallon in the next year. Gov’t taking over all private pensions. Possible bank holiday to keep people from getting to their money. Gov’t taking over all mortgages. If your house isn’t paid off do it as soon as possible. We are in for a rough ride.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I dont think so Robert. Gas is actually going down in the next year. You know not of what you say. Just like a good liberal.

  • valricoslash

    Wow. Great article that hits the nail on the head. The Washington (political) elite include the vast majority of both parties. The Tea Party is focusing on Republicans now because they have let us down by espousing conservative values and then falling into line with the democrat liberals,especially in the spending arena. I beleive that we should vote all incumbants out, starting in the primaries. Since most Tea party members associate themselves with the Republican party it was Republican incumbants that felt the wrath first. Now the the general election is upon us, the Democrats will feel the power of the movement. Any Republican incumbants that survived the primaries will be thinking hard this time about casting votes for big spending and socially bankrupt programs. If they don’t they will replaced during the next election. Teh Tea Party needs to keep raising money for 2012 and put it into primary races for both parties to kick the encumbants out. Perhaps then we might even see some more consrvative Democrats winning in formerly safe districts. Maybe then the message will get out that business as usual will not be tolerated.

    • bruce d.

      Michelle Bachman and Jim Demint are incumbents that are working their hearts out to save this country. There are others also.

    • Ameican Veteran

      You want the support of many make the tea part its own party and not affiliated with republicans or democrats and i swear ill sign on until then no way.

      • Dagney

        This is a long process. Look how long it took for the progressives to turn this country as Marxist as it is now! Don’t cut off your nose to spite your face!

      • slickporsche

        Then I think you better sign on, because they only go along with republicans, because they are conservative, but not entirly what the T-Party wants either. I think the T-Party is good and has really started people thinking about things.Government in particular. I think if the T-Party can keep its momentum going, it could turn into another legit party. Hell man it already has, look, listen, and read.I also think the Democratic party should be disolved and the Republican party taken over by average Americans and turned into a real Republican party.

        • eddie47d

          Slick always comes up with some doozies! If the Democrats are disbanded and the Tea Party and the Republicans are the same (for the most part);Then you must want a one Party system and there are plenty of those in the world.

          • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

            Don’t worry, we’ll still need liberals around for the arts.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            As long as we clear out the liberals, it will be better for all of us, each and every one of us. No doubt about it.

      • Robert S

        Too late The TP has alrewady been hijacked.

      • Robert S

        Veteran it will never happen. The Elitists will always infiltrate and destroy any party that threatens them. Look at the present TP. Taken over by Zionists Palin, Beck, Gingrich and Fox News.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Heck man, then Im in. I love Zionists. I love Beck, Rush and Sarah Palin. Im all in. This is good news.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Oh yeah, and Newts alright, and Fox News is the only place you can get the truth in the news, so this is a fine place to be. Thanks for the tip pal.

        • eddie47d

          Berberoni; If FOX is all you listen to then you have lopsided opinions and will never see the full picture. Your loss!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I just happen to like fair and balanced, thats all. Ive watched enough of ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, and MSNBC to know that it is democrat own and democrat ran, and that it is full of lying scumball left wing liberals who demonize the United States and kiss the butt of muslim terrorists and every bleeding heart liberal group that raises their heads. They are so out of touch with the normal, I repeat, NORMAL American, that they have no clue that their ideals only represent about 25 percent, if that, of the people of this country, and the thing is, they dont care. They insist we think like they do, and see things askewed like they do. Well bub, some of us know the truth, and have educated ourselves as to who is who, and what they think and what they do and what they say, and we recognize the left wing liberal anti American agenda when we hear it and see it, and being loyal red blooded Americans, we resent their attempts at tearing down this country we love, and that our ancestors, fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers have give their lives for, and were getting real close to the point where we arent going to tolerate your terrorist sympathizer actions anymore, and arent going to put up with your political correctness anymore. You can only push a good man so far, then he tires of it, and smacks you back, and smacks back hard. Ask Saddam Hussein about it. Of course, when the pacifist appeasing liberals sat there and let them smack us over and over again, naturally they see us as weak, and keep smacking us. Im glad someone in power had a pair to step up to the plate, and soon all of us in the public spectre are going to have our fill, and start slapping you little girlie men down. Just keep pushing, and one day soon you will see. Thing is, these same terrorists that you support and enable, would just as soon kill you as me, but your too damn proud of yourself to admit it, but it doesnt change the matter, that its true, they will kill you as fast as they would me. Bank on it son.

  • FlaJim

    Good analysis. Two things must be understood:

    1) Our Founders never envisioned a a permanent political class. Those elected were to served limited terms on a part time basis and after a time, go back home to tend their own business. Some in DC have never had real jobs in their entire lives.

    2) The entrenched establishment must be uprooted and new leadership put into place. Nothing can be accomplished if the GOP is already waving the white flag and signaling a desire to compromise. Compromise means only one thing: conservatives lose.

    • slickporsche

      Very good point FlaJim.

  • l.m hOWELL

    tHE BIG HEADED PRES CALLS THE aMERICAN PEOPLE STUPID AND NON RELIGOUS. hIM AND HIS JERKS ARE THE STUPID ONES BECAUSE THEY ARE SO EMPTY HEADED THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. hIM AND HIS STUPID GANG SHOULD BE OUSTED OUT OF OFFICE. i PRAY ENOUGH REPUBLICANS WILL GET VOTED IN TO STRAIGHTEN SOME OF THEM OUT.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He is, the long legged Mack Daddy. And its almost time for him to leave.

  • Wayne

    If you want to destroy the United States, vote for the Demorats, such as, Barny Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Charles Rangel and too many other lunatics in Washington D. C. to mention, so I will stop here. If you want to preserve our way of life, install honesty and common sense back into our government, and get us back on good financial footing, then vote for the Tea Party backed candidates on Nov. 2nd. This sums it up – what more can I say. I don’t even want Democrats to respond to this message. I don’t want to hear the ridiculous crap that comes out of your mouth. Please, only Coservative Republicans, and Independants can respond. I am sick and tired seeing our country going by the way of France, Greece, the Soviet Union and other Socialist Countries. Let’s start cleaning out this ridiculous Congress, and start replacing them with good decent, honest people who will serve this country instead of themselves. In 2012 we can clean out more of them and get rid of Communist NObama!!!!

    • Ameican Veteran

      I am a centerist and believe me it matters not who you vote in, you tink the republicans are your savior? wrong the democrats and republicans are the same snake with two heads, apparently you just dont get it, until theres a 3rd party, that breaks up the 2 party monopoly, its never going to change, until you root out all the corruption, get rid of all the career politicians, no matter what party they belong to its all in vane, they pass on the corruption to the new, be it back door deals, lobbyist gifts and money, and then the powers that be in the shadows, how can you not see it, its right out in the open, Tea party that follows an idot like Sarah Palin, oh now thats a joke all you have to do is read her book to know she has no clue and that hannity guy be real, true movements dont need a leader to steer you the way they are make your own choices not the ones their making for you, you,ll see when the lead you down the path of more of the same, and dont say i didnt tell you so.

      • Wayne

        American Veteran, I do agree with you, but it seems like there are more crooked Democrats than republicans. We know the bunch in there now are crooked. I say we replace them with Tea Party Conservative and then keep an eye on them to keep this from happening anymmore. You can’t teach the older dogs in Congress new tricks, but hopefully we can with the new comers.

      • bruce d.

        American Veteran you seem like a very nasty person. Sarah Palin is not an idiot. It is a very bad idea to start a third party at this time. It is also a bad idea for conservatives to call people nasty names who are trying to help. Mostly the left is advocating that to water down the vote and disredit people who are trying to help. Reread Bob’s article if you are a conservative. If you are not don’t bother because you won’t get anything out of it. The Tea Party has it right to take the battle to the Republican primaries and put pressure on incumbents. Sarah Palin is helping them to do that.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I dont know dude. I read her book and Ive listed to her talk, and frankly, I find the lady to be pretty darn intelligent. Sincere, heartfelt. American. I miss that in my leaders. Judge her by her political record, and she did well there also. She SERVED the people she was elected to serve. She got rid of crooked politicians, even in her own party. Ever seen a democrat do that? Nope, not unless they had do. She loves her husband, and her family. She loves America. How can you not admire that, and how can you honestly read the book, listen to her talk and not realize, the woman is genuine and articulate and intelligent? If you can see that, then one you are either a liberal, or you are one of those males who feel threatened by a female. Myself, Im comforable with my manhood. I think the woman is great, and if you can achieve all she has, then pat yourself on the back. If not, quit being jealous and attacking her like a democrat.

    • Ameican Veteran

      Excuse me Bush ruined the country put is in 2 wars on lies and made us the laughing stock of the world, so dont blame it all on the dummocrats, theres enough blame to go round.

      • Dagney

        Saying your comments twice don’t make them any less ignorant, “AMEICAN”. What is “AMEICAN” anyway? I can guess you’re probably not an AMERICAN VETERAN because most of them have a good head on their shoulders.

      • Wayne

        Look who is keeping the war on going. Nobama. I just heard on the news this AM that they had found some WMD in Iraq. Maybe Bush wasn’t an idiot for going to war. Remember, most of the Democrats were for it in also from the very beginning as well as other countries. It was more than just Bush who believed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. I feel we should take out Iran’s nuclear capabilities before they do something stupid, like Hitler did. The trouble is we wait to long to take action. If we had taken action earlier in WW-2 the world wouldn’t have lost up to 30 to 50 million peoples. Russian alone had around 15 million casualties. For you folks who say we shouldn’t have done this, and we haven’t done this, remember you were not privy to the information that Bush had when he made the decision to go to war. All the information you have, is all the BS that came from George Soros, or other crap the liberals had spread around just to make President Bush look bad. If you have the evidence why we should have gone to war, present it.

        • Wayne

          I meant why we should not have gone to war. Sorry about that.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Bush didnt put us in a war. The president cannot send a country into war. It takes an act of congress. The whole congress voted on it. Your democrats Bill and Hillary were on TV before Bush was even a candidate for President in his first term, saying how Saddam was dangerous and had weapons of mass destruction and had to be stopped. They all did. I watched them and I heard them. And I agreed with them. Its just that Billy was too busy dropping his pants to pay attention to these guys running about the country setting up 9-11. I mean he let them blow up the basement of the WTC the first time right? What did he do? Nothing. And he let them blow up the USS Cole right? What did he do? Nothing. So then they pull of 9-11, I thank God that Mr. Bush had the guts to say enough is enough, and start the long trek after them. Or would you rather we sit here and do nothing and let them just say maybe, take over the whole middle east and all the oil, and just let our windmills provide power for our factories and cars and…..Ooops, I forgot, that doesnt work that way. You can be a pacifist and sit back and let them keep punching you in the nose, and not to anything, to which I have to say shame on you for using the name American Veteran, because sir, I am an American Veteran, and I and millions like me say enough is enough, and its time to wipe these evil bastards out. Only problem is, in the last two years now weve gone backwards because somebody did stay on the track, and has made their plans to cut and run. But no sir, you are wrong. Congress voted for this war, and I surely know Im not the only American that was sick of them blowing stuff up and us not doing anything about it. Myself, Id have hit harder. Right or wrong, Iraq would be a sheet of glass, or at least part of it, and I think if that was the case, we would not be having any problems at all with Iran or North Korea right now. None at all. I rest my case.

    • Ameican Veteran

      Excuse me Bush ruined the country put is in 2 wars on lies and made us the laughing stock of the world, so dont blame it all on the dummocrats, theres enough blame to go round.And this isnt a duplicate comment either.

      • Shibamom

        Give me a break already with the “Blame Bush” garbage. Nothing changes if we don’t stop pointing fingers. The crap has been done…move on, make new and better choices and STOP POINTING FINGERS OF BLAME ON THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION! Despite what that administration did, good or bad, it is NOTHING compared to the current administration. This is a socialist regime full of ego-maniacs that can’t stand having the consitituents disagree with them. It sends them into Tantrum & Boo Boo lip mode where they begin to call us all names because we’re too dumb to think for ourselves. Blaming past administrations for all the current problems allows these morons to think they’re winning. I’ll be damned if I’m going to have the likes of BO or any of his socialist/marxist cronies constantly telling me how to think or what to do.

        • Wayne

          Poor President Bush. The liberals will be kicking that one for a long time to come. Have they not realized you don’t look back and fret the past, you have got to look into the future and get beyond the past. I guess a lot of Liberals just don’t understand that old adage.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Don’t worry Wayne, the Libs know full well what they’re doing. Blame Bush and keep blaming Bush._ and while your kept busy trying to find the facts on what made Bush so bad, Liberals like peelosi, are skippin across the stage to the microphone to keep us all enthralled by her stupidity that “We have to pass the bill (HCR) before we find out what’s in it!___Keep the sheep busy so they won’t bite!!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Its just like a little kid. They screw up, get caught, and the first thing they do is deflect the blame from themselves and point the finger at somebody else. The liberals never grew up. They are still spoiled little kids.

      • s c

        Ameican? That’s a new one. ‘American’ sounds much better. The way you express yourself makes me think you’re just another progressive plant who migrated to this website.
        If no one ever told you, a centerist [aka centrist] is a fence-sitting putz who refuses to make a decision until late in the game. Ever heard of a schmuck by the name of Arlen Specter? He’s a classic centerist/centrist. Maybe you need a new role model, guy.
        Suck down some coffee or some Kruel Ade (whatever gets your day started), and put some thought into your ‘message.’ We already have more than enough “volunteer progressives” and fence-sitters who send feedback to this website.
        Some originality would be nice. And, don’t jam your sentences together (that’s an immature, progressive technique). OK, there’s your constructive criticism for the day, A V – [where did you come up with a word like Ameican?]

        • Angel Wannabe

          sc, specters a jack azz! We had the pleasure of dinner, with he and his wife over 30 years ago at a fundraiser, when he was a rino repub. Quite frankly, I wasn’t amused then either!!!

          • Robert S

            Specter was the one who dreamed up the ” Magic Bullet ” in the Warren Commission investigation of JFK’s murder. Anyone who trusts him is a fool.

        • Wayne

          Wow! why didn’t I think of this one. Good post s c.

        • Dagney

          Actually, if you read “The 5,000 Year Leap”, the author makes the very good point that the Founding Fathers were in the center between all out-government rule and anarchy. America is the center, the balance between fascism and anarchy. People who claim they are in the center, then must be Constitutionalists to actually BE in the center. This is the argument that must be used to refute any MSM or government fascist “extremist” epithets. If you are an “extremist” by the standards of Harry Ried and Nancy Pelosi, then you must actually be a Constitutionalist by normal people’s standards. Being called an “extremist” by these people is a GOOD thing.

        • Randy G

          Some people can’t spell & some just type too fast.

        • JeffH

          sc, “Ameican? That’s a new one. ‘American’ sounds much better. The way you express yourself makes me think you’re just another progressive plant who migrated to this website.”

          FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE MIS-READ THE NAME, IT IS NOT AMERICAN VETRAN.

          It is “AMEICAN”….

          sc, I missed your comment earlier but that is my take on this phony also.

          • Robert S

            Jeff Why is it that anyone who disagrees with you is automatically a Progressive. Do you find it so hard to believe there are smarter people out there than you?

      • Angel Wannabe

        C’mon American Veteran, why not go all the way to George Washington and blame him, hell. Everyone knows the current administration is left with the former admins laundry to do. For Gods sake, will you get some new material, this shows getiin old!!

      • JeffH

        Ameican? Certainly not American…gotcha! Perhaps a reborn American Liberal? My guess is yes!

      • Claire

        American Veteran–Surely you remember that there were Democrats that also supported these wars. The blame is not one-sided.

        • eddie47d

          Then the Democrats and Republicans better learn to say NO when it comes to wars. The Republicans have it down pat on several issues already.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Your wrong. Bush saved the country. A Saddam left unchecked would have caused some major damage. You are dead wrong, and uneducated to the facts. and your name is spelled wrong.

    • Mick

      Wayne says:
      October 25, 2010 at 9:32 am
      If you want to destroy the United States, vote for the Demorats, such as, Barny Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Charles Rangel and too many other lunatics in Washington D. C. to mention, so I will stop here. If you want to preserve our way of life, install honesty and common sense back into our government, and get us back on good financial footing, then vote for the Tea Party backed candidates on Nov. 2nd. This sums it up – what more can I say. I don’t even want Democrats to respond to this message. I don’t want to hear the ridiculous crap that comes out of your mouth. Please, only Coservative Republicans, and Independants can respond. I am sick and tired seeing our country going by the way of France, Greece, the Soviet Union and other Socialist Countries. Let’s start cleaning out this ridiculous Congress, and start replacing them with good decent, honest people who will serve this country instead of themselves. In 2012 we can clean out more of them and get rid of Communist NObama!!!!
      *************************************************
      Wayne ………………Can’t argue with you there
      I am originally from France and I know for a fact that America doesn’t want to take that road,,
      France as many European countries have been invaded by foreigners. mostly Arabs, the Good old French customs which were respected in the past are swarmed by Muslims customs, I don’t know about you guys but their civility leaves a lot to be desired,
      The unions and welfare has taken over leaving the hard working stiff footing the bills.
      Is it really what you people wan to happen to our country…? What will happen when the laze and corrupt outweigh the hard working law abiding citizens, did you people even bother to think that far ?
      With this administration and co, we’re well on our way, hang on, you’re in for a rough ride…….

      • Wayne

        Mick, I want to personally thank you for this nice post. If anyone wants to listen to anyone, they should listen to you since you have been there and know the ropes. You liberals out there in the wild should take notice of Mick’s post and see where this country is heading for unless we all open our eyes and see what NObama and this liberal Congress is up to. Thanks again Mick. Your post important.

      • Kate8

        Thanks, Mick. Many of us DO see what’s going on.

        Like France, we’ve got too many liberals who’ve become comatose and refuse to see the light. They can’t even see the nations falling all around us like dominoes, even as we are crumbling as well.

        They won’t see it until the checks stop coming.

    • slickporsche

      I agree with you Wayne and surely hope we can keep the momentum going on through 2012, to facilitate what you are talking about. We also need to bring back or to bolster the moral and religious fiber this country was founded on. I do not think we can be succesful without it.

  • http://MSN.com Mila

    Obama is worse president of U.S. He printed money that cause decrease it value. People are losing jobs but Obama has good life. He and his family often take vacation.

    • Wayne

      Mila, you are so right. I see the prices arising now when ever I go inside a grocery store, or buy anything, as far as that goes. It’s not that the prices has changed, it is caused by inflation which causes the devaluation of the dollar. This is being caused by all the money NObama has put in circulation in the last 20 months, or so. It is going to get a lot a lot worse too. Since this was caused by the Democrats they may like this inflation, and vote for NObama and his Zombies again. Maybe the majority of Democrats are rich and want to get rid of some of their money. Do you supposed this is the reason?

      • slickporsche

        I buy product from the Chinese and last Thursday I was asked if I could pay in RMB(Chinese money). I have always been asked to pay in American dollars as that is what they want in China. I totally hope this is just an isolated incident, and not a trend. That is kind of scary.Oh I said no, American dollar only.

        • Wayne

          This is because the Chinese Money is now valued higher than the dollar is. Folks, this is a direct result of NObama and his government printing press. In his 22 months in office he had spent more money that all past presidents. In my heart, I really do believe that this is not due to his ignorance. I believe he has intentionally done this to weaken our economy. Our defenses are weakened, 15 to 18 million people out of work, Nobama has apolized to all our enemies, put thousand of people out of work in the Gulf states due to his drilling moratorium at the same time he has given Mexico $1,000,000,000 to drill in the Gulf of Mexico, has backed a loan to Brazil for $2,000,000,000, has loaned, or given Al Gore’s backed auto company company located in Finland around $5,000,000,000 for building electric cars that is going to cost $89,000 to buy, want to buy one? and the list goes on, and on. All of this information can be found on the website by searching on Google. Wake up you liberals, where is all this money going to come form, you guessedit, from your wallet. How can anyone with an ounce of sense justify this crap. Liberals, Liberals, wake up if you have a job and pay taxes. Even if you don’t work and pay taxes, think of your neighbor who most likely does work.

      • Robert S

        The slick corporations make their packaging smaller so they don’t have to raise the prices. Soon a gallon will be 12 ounces but the prices won’t go up.

    • Ameican Veteran

      Mila the fed not the president printed their worthless fiat money, we need to oust the central banks, as for history we booted them out 7 times before, we lost this country back in 1913, you get rid of them and go by way of the constitution and things will be better, the fed was implimented by thieves, and endorsed by thieves in a shady deal at xmas in 1913 and they were republicans, research it.

      • Shibamom

        I definitely agree with you on this one Ameican Veteran! BTW…did you purposly mispell American?? You forgot the ‘r’. Anyway, I believe the Fed is definitely not constitutional and is one of the big problems that we should seriously try to fix and/or get rid of.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          The fed is dirty, and has always been dirty, and needs to be disbanded immediately.

      • bruce d.

        The Fed prints the money at the Presidents request to cover his budget. If the budget was balanced or the money could be borrowed from someone first, the Fed would not print the money. Actually I do not believe the Fed prints the money. The Fed issues the money. The United States Treasury prints the money at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing.

      • S.C.Murf

        Some say that J.F.K. was going to abolish the Fed. and that’s what got him shot

        up the hill
        airborne

      • Wayne

        You know this Congress would not print that money without the Backing of the president. Have you ever heard the president complaining about too much money being printed, or being spend? Heck no, you haven’t and you will not hear about it from the president. The more they spend the deeper the hole gets which is what NObama wants. Who’s idea was it to pass this health care bill? who’s idea was it to pass the “Cap & Trade” bill? Look up the Cap & Trade bill an see how it is going to raise the cost on everything you buy. The Cap & Trade bill passed the house, but they got so busy with passing the health care bill that the Senate put the Cap Trade on hold. Anyone want this crap is either filthy rich, or they don’t pay taxes, period.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Obama is the one that has ordered the printing presses to run around the clock printing money. Him and his left wing liberal ilk is behind it all. And you can bet, they have placed some of this cash in places they can retrieve later down the line.

  • Marie Brown

    Our work really begins after the November 2, election. We need every able body to keep watch to the newly elected that we do not fall again to walking away from our responsibilities as Americans. We need to push for term limits and a smaller retirement. There are better ways to control health care costs and we still welcome President Obama and his administration to join us in the same healthcare that they legislated for us!

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      Thank you Marie.

      Term limits is a HUGE advantage to help clean up Washington. To those who say we would lose our “savvy” politicians who can get things done, I say we have plenty of smart, common sense people of good character that go go to Washington, assess situations in a straightforward manner, and implement practical solutions just as they do in their business and professional lives.

      Cops who go undercover to bust drug rings and other very lucrative operations do not do that for a career. There is a reason.

      If “savvy” politicians were good for us, we wouldn’t be in the trouble we’re in. WOULD WE.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      That is right. When the government starts to run health care like this, they themselves, every stinking one of them, the President, Vice President, all of the Senators, Governors, Congressman and every politician should be forced to use this health insurance scam they push onto the American public. Had this been the case, they never would have proposed this, because they know its a bum deal. Its so that their big insurance buddies can cash in, and pay them back later. And its also so they can make the poor uneducated people think they are doing something good for them, while they are really screwing them.

  • Bill sanders

    I don’t see how anyone could belong to the same party as Alan Grayson or Al Frankin. What an embarrassment to the country.

    • Wayne

      Another Amen.

    • bruce d.

      Bill I really do not get it either.

    • Wayne

      I agree, Bill. He is a big bag of hot air. That this shows me the caliber of people who lives in his district.

    • JeffH

      Alan Grayson is one of the most despicable politicians I’ve ever seen and heard.

      • Claire

        JeffH– You are correct on this.

      • Angel Wannabe

        DITTO, JeffH!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Al Franken. How embarrassing it has to be to be from Minnesota, that you would elect a lousy comedian to office. Embarrassing.

  • Ameican Veteran

    Unless you want to see a REVOLUTION like one you never seen before vote smart, vote out every candidate thats an incumbent. Vote 3rd party people in break up the republican, democrat monopoly, seems they both run the same agenda. You,ll see when the dust settles, nothing will change because those in the shadows pull the strings of the puppets that be your so called statesman, Eisenhowr tried to warn us on his way out, Kennedy tried to warn us and was martyerd, unless we go and physically out all the scum, and neuter the military industrial complex, get rid of the fed, start putting wall street big shots and banksters in prison, it wii all be for naught. The back door deals have got to be stopped and those who make them need held accountable past and present, ACCOUNTABILITY needs brought back, these politicians are arrogant, blatent fools who need to start being brought up on charges of treason, who need to be punished for breaking the law and laws of our great constitution along with their cronies, term limits need applied to them, and lobbyist out lawed, and brought to justice for bribery of an official(s). Corporations are not people, but the catalyst that controls the greed and runs the SCOTUS. I could go on and on, my point neither the democrats, or republicans are gonna save us its all an illusion, i dare you prove me wrong.

    • mrdave98765

      Don’t vote them ALL out. Like Wayne says: we need to look at their voting record. Rep. Tom Rooney R-Fl is a good conservative. Don’t vote him out or we’ll end up with a liberal in his place making things worse.

      • Mick

        mrdave98765 says:
        October 25, 2010 at 10:23 am
        Don’t vote them ALL out. Like Wayne says: we need to look at their voting record. Rep. Tom Rooney R-Fl is a good conservative. Don’t vote him out or we’ll end up with a liberal in his place making things worse.
        *********************************
        mrdave98765…..You make an excellent point,,,’Let’s keep the good strong conservatives and let’s can the wolves in sheep clothing………..

      • bruce d.

        I agree mrdave98765. It is very foolish to vote everyone out. People need to be more dicerning. That is an idea being promoted by people who are not thinking clearly.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Your right. So is Mitch Daniels from Indiana. And if we all proposed on voting out the incumbants, which I once thought about doing, it would be suicide, as the Democrats would not do this, as they will continue to vote for the good old boys network. But it would be nice to start all anew, but there are a few quality individuals out there, but thats the problem, its just a few. But its a start.

    • Wayne

      You hit the nail squarely on the head on the one American Vereran.

    • Cathy

      American Veteran you are so right that both parties are the problem but that is because both have been infiltrated by the elite. The Democratic party is controlled by the Marxists and the Republican party has been controlled by greedy corporatists. Where I differ with you is in the need to start a third party which will only siphon votes from one of the 2 major parties and skew the election.

      I think our best hope for non-violent restoration of country is the Tea Party but the Tea Party goal should not be a voice in the Republican party but to TAKE OVER the Republican Party. For long term success, there also needs to be a return to personal integrity, morality and belief in God.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Uh, I believe it is the Democrats who are controlled by greedy corporatists. George Soros owns them.

    • slickporsche

      The only thing that scares me about voting third party only, is splitting the vote so the Dems stay in power. I agree with you 100% about the rest. However, I think we need to take the republican party away from the crooks and let honest hard working Americans be part of it for one or two terms only. NO word twisting Lawyers or career politicians. I also fear that the only way we will see any of what you talk about is with a all our revolution. I don’t think voting is going to be enough for the same reasons as you. Dishonest Crooks!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Thats what the Tea Party is, real Americans that want to take back the Republican Party to being for the American citizen, not against them.

    • JeffH

      Ameican Veteran, I question the motive of your comment? I believe you to be cooley deceptive and a heavy 3rd party split vote will surely lead to Democrat victories. There are quite a few “conservatives” running as Republicans that deserve votes also.

      To everyone, do your homework and vote wisely and don’t trust this guy Ameican Veteran.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Hey JeffH, did ya notice how many Politcal Campaign Ads running on TV, that don’t appear to have any party affliation??__Those
        Demon-craps, think they’re pretty slick, don’t they?? A few are “posers” too!__Like you said, gotta stay awake!! :)

        • eddie47d

          You’re not paying attention Angel; Americans for Prosperity and Chamber of Commerce are putting out many of those ads. What are they gaining by lying for any politician? Politics to them is nothing more than a drive by shooting.

        • JeffH

          So right Angel Wannabe. Some of us are more awake than others if you get my drift.

          • eddie47d

            Go back to sleep Jeff!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I dont trust any guy that cant spell American right.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    November 2 is almost here! The Tea Party movement is much larger than it appears. There are many who simply can’t leave their jobs or families to participate, but you will see them voting! Common sense thinking and smaller government will prevail!

    Karl Rove and Newt Gingerich are both politically savvy, but too much old style GOP. The Tea Party movement has sprung from the loins of the GOP. It’s a new generation, going back to the original roots of the GOP.

    We need to stay connected and up to date on political happenings, including the voting records of our elected. We needed a wake up call and we got it!

    • Ameican Veteran

      I dont like whats going on either but iam not going to follow a tea party movement that was hijacked by the republicans for the republicans you fools ought to be ashamed by letting your movement be hijacked by the republicons, and an idiot such as sarah palin,it gets more inane and funnier by the minute, The blind leading the blind, actually ts the wolf leading the sheeple to slaughter, good job sheeple you played right into their hands, wake the hell up you boneheads.

      • slickporsche

        I do not think you are giving the T-Party enough credit. I hope you are wrong, but you may also be right. I do think we are all beginning to realize the problem is with both parties and they are mostly EVIL. It will certainly be interesting to see how this unfolds. I guess the bottom line is that I would side with you. I am thinking after the elections it will be “same shit,different day”. THey(politicians) are all a bunch of liars and cheaters.

      • Dagney

        Arrogance is sinking the Democrat Party. Arrogance will sink you, too, “AMEICAN”. Sarah Palin was a HOUSEWIFE and saw the corruption in her government and she rose up from city council to where she is now. That is stupid and idiotic? LOL, I don’t think so. No, you need to instead try looking in the mirror yourself to see why you think so. You probably won’t like the answer.

        • Robert S

          Nobody in politics rises as fast as Palin without some powerful people pulling her strings.

      • JeffH

        Ameican Veteran is nothing but a liberal schill…buyers beware of his rhetoric!

        • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

          Jeff, I think you’re right.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You couldnt hold a candle to Sarah Palin. She has more intelligence in her little finger than you in your whole brain. Why are you so intimidated and scared of her? Why do you cower like a child in her presence? And why do you mis-spell your name?

  • David

    Perhaps we need some real problem solvers in DC who were not breed in DC or Harvard. How did Alan Grayson get elected in Fl? You straight ticket people should be ashamed!!

    He is a prime example of inbreeding.

  • David

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/print/249783

    Check it out. This sums up our situation pretty well. I was at a huge environmental/industry meeting last week. The new regs coming down “the hill”, that you don’t even hear about, are a further attempt to break the back of industry….before cap/trade even hits.

    WE ARE AT A TIPPING POINT America. It’s time to reverse the damage.

    • Al Sieber

      David, looks like we’ll have to be outlaws then.

      • slickporsche

        Al that might be a whole lot better than the alternative.

        • Al Sieber

          You got that right slick, there’s no other options.

    • Shibamom

      Wow…that article was downright scary! It pretty much described the last two years under this administration. Boy, I must be really screwed up because I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone, who claims to be a US citizen, would want to see our system fail and send us toward becoming a 3rd world country!!! Of course, since it’s most of the politicians (Dems AND Repubs)that are trying to do this, there is only one answer: Power & Greed.

    • Bob Wire

      2008 was not when it started Dave ~

      • Wayne

        You are right about that Bob, but it certainly got a lot worse after 2008.

  • BigBadJohn

    Good job of playing partisan politics Bob.
    After saying:
    “Of course, the idea of smaller government is anathema to the elected fascist class of both parties and chattering elitists and globalists dominating the mainstream media. They all believe that anyone that didn’t graduate from a prestigious university is incapable of providing for himself and making rational decisions. So a large government is not only unavoidable… it’s necessary.”

    You go on to repeatedly blast democrats and ignore the fact that republicans do, are, and always have employed the same smears and slanders. Repuiblicans are not ashamed to start calling candidates names if their slanders art not enough. A prime example was “slick Willy” when after 5 years of investigations they could not get anything to stick. Now it is trying to brand all democrats as “socialist”.

    “Why is it, that when Republicans let corporations control the country, give them massive tax breaks and also funnel billions to them–the very definition of FASCISM, this is somehow OK.

    But when Democrats advance a stimulus package which is not all that different, except it includes more support for individuals, and government oversight to prevent 20 billion from being given away to a few in Bonuses–TWENTY BILLION–that money could build countless schools, bridges, homes… suddenly, that’s “socialism.” ?I’d rather have socialism than fascism any day, because at least in socialism it’s the citizens in control, not the corporations, and the citizens who benefit, not just a few high up in the corporate and financial food chain–like royalty–while most of the people in the country suffer the greatest depression since 1929.”

    Get over it! Both parties do exactly the same things! The only difference is who they are willing to sell their loyalties to.

    • Wayne

      BigBadJohn. Remember, when you make big corporations, pay taxes, do you really believe that cost them money. This is a ploy from the government to make you, the voter think they pay taxes. Don’t you realize when they pay taxes they just add this cost on to the consumers. Wouldn’t you if you could? It boils down to the fact that you pay the big corporations taxes, plus your own taxes so you are paying double. I would like to see all corporation tax exempt. That way the big corporations could lower their prices since thehy would not be paying any taxes. The goverment is hoping we are so dumb that we cannot see what is going on. Well I am one who does see what is going on and I am sure that there are a lot of others out there that does too. Another thing that bothers me is that we can buy food from all over the world, but no, we can’t buy drugs out of Canada since they say they could be dangerous to our health. Who believes this crap since most of the drugs we buy from Canada are made in the United States anyway. I’ll tell you what I think. I believe that the major drug companies are paying off some folks in Congress in order to keep this from happening. If we would be allowed to buy drugs from Canada we could save about 40% on our drugs. You think that Congress cares about the American People? They only care about themselves, not your, or me. This is my take on this. Others may have a different opinion.

      • Shibamom

        Well said Wayne…and oh so true!

      • Bob Wire

        “I believe that the major drug companies are paying off some folks in Congress ”

        Of course they are Wayne. It been an on going “wealth transfer” since 1980.

        After 30 years of it, the chicken are finally coming back home to roost.

        75% of American’s are now feeling the full effects of special interest influence.

        25 years ago it was the poor and most modest incomes that felt it’s effect first. Seen as under achievers, not being “organized” they had no voice and their cries completely ignored. Scoffed at ~ as lazy, no account malcontents. Get a job! Get three!

        Today, it’s at every American doorstep.

        The praises of Reagan! he’s the one that Got it started, as he unlock the hen house gate and allowed special interest to start having their way as never before.

        He cut federal taxes for the people that placed him in office while greatly increasing the Nation Debt by the end of his tenure. In effect saddling the American people with the cost of “their” tax reductions.

        But he was a hero ! “W” tried to copy it, the end results being similar, apart from we now have committed worthless wars yet to wrap up, wading eye ball deep in Muslims that want to walk our city streets dress up like train robbers and 4 billion down, ~ flushed down toilet, Advanced military R&D being our primary rewards.

        Today Washington DC is packed with Lobbyist dressed up like 500 dollar hookers, some having their own designated parking spot , own backdoor and coffee pot at the White House. They’ve made themselves at home.

        So here we are, 30 years later, arguing about “what’s wrong” and why is the national debt so high!

        It seems that it was only that last 800 million Obama targeted for “Main Street” that’s set these (self-proclaimed) conservatives ass on fire.

        It’s only now ~ they fear spending! and big government.

        • Wayne

          Really, Bob, this is why I particularly don’t look at the party of a person when I vote. I just want to vote for, if one can be found, a person who is honest, has principles, good moral values, and will work toward the American Principles and our way of life, and freedom from government intrusion. I don’t see any reason why we them involved in our every day life. Hell, they don’t do their own job. You know protecting the border from the illegals, NObamas future voters. Government should be handles on the state and local levels. All we need the Feds for is to protect our nation from its enemies, protect our borders, control our interstate commerce and a few other limited functions.

          • Wayne

            Excuse some of my typos.

      • ValDM

        If all you’re interested in buying pharms for less, suggest you go to Costco. Their prices are MUCH less than other pharms and you don’t even need to be a member to use their pharm. All you need to say when you go in and they ask to see your member card, that you’re going to the pharm.

        • Robert S

          Costco is owned by the Chinese Military. I think they have enough of our dollars.

      • WARLORDX

        What can possibly be RIGHT about a government that “allows” anything? A free, sovereign citizen doesn’t require his government’s permission for anything. His only obligations are personal responsibility for his actions, recompense for his harm, and an obligation to limit any harm to his fellow citizens. “Ask what you can do for your country…” presupposes that the citizen is subordinate to the government not superior. Our Constitution was designed to codify this relationship of superiority of “We the People…” to any form of government established in this country. Government schools, operated by a union has guaranteed that our children don’t have a clue of this original intent.
        DE OPRESSO LIBER

    • slickporsche

      YOu need to get over it and think about what has really happened the last two years. It is all about a take over. You better go back to your cave and your pin-up girls and let us handle it.

      • Bob Wire

        yea right ! everything was just great until just two years ago.

        I think you’ve went bobbing for french fries too many times and need to stay away from anything more complicate then a hammer.

      • eddie47d

        Sorry Slick,I think It’s you who we don’t want running government. Especially if it’s i41 who will be you’re running mate.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Funny, you say “after 5 years they couldnt make anything stick” to Slick Willy. But as time passes, seems more and more stuff is starting to stick to his slimy arse. Remember John Gotti? The Teflon Don? Yeah, nothing used to stick to him either, so does that mean he didnt do it? I think not. Same with Clinton, he is a slippery egg. But more and more things are coming to light about the dirty and devastating deeds he did to this country while in office. To me nothing is worse than throwing away half of our intelligence agency, and letting the muslim terrorists roam about the country all those years, and setting up what became 9-11, the worst attack ever on American soil. Thank Slick Willy for that one. And you dumb union people that vote democrat, thank Slick Willy for sending millions of your jobs to Mexico, and yet you still vote democrat, so that is why I say the word dumb. That is a dumb, dumb thing to do, to continue to empower people who but the screws to you. Dumb, dumb, dumb. And Slick Willy was as dirty as they come mister, and I know it, you know it, and God knows it. And sir, the American people know it.

  • Ameican Veteran

    You people, OH THE REPUBLICANS ARE GONNA SAVE US, WHAT A CROCK OF HORSE DUNG, You folks are gonna be disappointed when the smoke clears. I guess voting in people who dont have a clue are gonna save us, Democrats and republicans theres no difference, same snake, just gives you an illusion of 2 parties. Vote out the incumbents, vote in more 3rd party candidates beak up the dem and republican monopoly and strenghten up third party candidates, independants dont count they go with one party or the other, we had bush, heaven help us now you have obama who is dong just as bush did, you seeing it yet? You call it the Tea Party but yet your voting republican, so i guess tea partiers are republican, so tea party is just another name for republicans, foolish people led by a bimbo named sarah i call my kid a retard palin, foolish, foolish people you been led a stray, i fear youve not made any change at all but kept the same scum in power, for shame, for shame.Its not about oh this is my candidate ill vote for them, do you folks ever research your or any candidates? sheeple led to slaughter, foolish people.

    • Wayne

      It not the Republicans, or Democrats that are going to save us. This is why the Tea Party are supporting Conservatives that are only running on the Republican ticket. It the same way as the Socialist and the Communist do, run on the Democrat Ticket to be able to make it on the ticket. Would you vote for a person running as a Communist, or a Socialist? I doubt that you would. But is this same Communist, or Socialist was running on the Democrat ticket and telling you how he is going to save America, pay your bills and all other Bull crap, a lot of Democrats would vote for this type of man. I don’t believe most politicians.I don’t believe we live in a land of Utopia either. We must work hard to get ahead as all other successful people have done before us.

    • Bob Wire

      Well if things became so bad that “W” was encouraged to “stay away” from the GOP National Convention, it being seen as “The Kiss of Death”, the GOP had to change it’s strips!

      I know!

      Let’s paint our faces and dress up like something we are “not” and engage in a little civil disobedience! “Taxation with Representation!” scare the hell out of the meek ones and borderline paranoid. Purge our ranks of those that won’t cow-tow to “our brand” of conservatism.

      “Yea Daddy, we can get us a little’er midget! ” ( lines from “O’ Brother were Art Thou”

      It’s been an entertaining show ~ I’ve enjoyed the comedy it’s offer us.

      The question before us is, has it been effective?

      I’d say, ~ “Sure” it has! ~ The DNC going to take some losses.

      The American people placed Bush in office twice didn’t they?

      They’ve not changed a bit, still dumb as a sack of hammers in the collective.

      • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

        Keep calling millions of people dumb, Bob. We need a few more votes.

      • Robert S

        Amen Bobwire. But I don’t think they are as smart as a hammer.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And lets measure the facts dull bob. The first two years of Bush, was cleaning up Clintons recession, and the economy got rolling pretty good. I mean unemployment was at an alltime low in this country, ever. Employment was at an all time high in this country. Ever. The stock market hit at all time high under Bush. Ever. And it rolled on good for years 3, 4, 5, 6, and most of year 7, when the moves of the democratic congress started catching up, and it also became evident that a democrat was going to be the next president. So naturally, business’s tightened their belts, and held on to their cash, as they knew they would need to to feed the incoming tax monsters that everyone who knows anything, knew would be in office in 2008. Gee, fears confirmed. Here comes the obamination. What did he do, right out of the gate? Expand Welfare. Expand food stamps. Expand unemployment. Alot billions of dollars to pay for abortions in third world countries. Stopped talking the general running the war, not giving them permission to carry on in the war effort, and left the troops hanging. Gave billions of our dollars to GM and Chrysler. Forced heath care down the throats of over 65 percent of the population that wanted nothing to do with it, and if the 35 percent that said they wanted it, actually knew what all it entails, another 20 percent of them would not want it, and when they find out how it works, they are in for a rude awakening. And yet you still blame Bush? You have been watching far too much ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC, and you might want to tune into Fox News for awhile, or listen to Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh for awhile just to let your little brain soak in some truth and reality. Just listen to them, unbiased. Yes, they will say a lot of things that dont seem right or true to you, but I challenge you to research what they say, and prove them wrong. You cannot do it. The truth is the truth is the truth, and it is not in todays left. It may get there someday, Im not saying that. But for today, no sir, the truth is not in the left wing liberals. Just a lying anti American agenda, and here in the United States of AMERICA, we dont need that.

    • Wayne

      American Veteran, I don’t know for sure, but you sound like, if you have ever been in the service, to be a young disgruntlesd veteran. Did a sour grape ever hit you in the rear at some time? Get over it.

      Even though I passed this one on before, I’ll do it again so you can see the view of another country. They can at times be more objective, and see things more clearly than our own people who are involved.

      “Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic . Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do.

      “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

      Oh! how true this is.

      • Bob Wire

        My feeling exactly after two terms of “W”

        We have a great divide in this nation, well, maybe not so get really ~

        28% of the voting public has always responded easily to any programing/propaganda if the packaging found pleasing. So with a possible 10% gain making it now 38% ~ I consider that a “great divide” @ 38%

        A 38% that claims a majority as they find themselves lofty enough to be the only ones that matters.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        How wise can the guy be, when he cant even spell American?

  • Joseph C Moore, USN Ret

    Don’t be fooled by the new “Contract with America”. If the same big government politicians are re-elected we will experience the same growth in government that occurred with the last “Contract”. No more politicians. We need representation by
    Citizens. If anyone of the running candidates have a membership in one of the “Letters” (Such as CFR), they are big government, globalist, one world government politicians and do not represent the ideology of Constitutionalism, no matter what they may say.

    • JC

      Truth!

  • Jack

    We are making headway but the Republican establishment (the elites) have not yet heard us. Senator Judd Gregg said that Republicans may not want to repeal Obamacare and may not even try. No they haven’t learned their lesson so lets’ remember Senator Gregg when he comes up for reelection. Let’s make him another Murkowski or Spectre.

    • Wayne

      He will if his constituents demand it!!!!

  • Bob Wire

    “The elected elites are on the ropes… and they know it.”

    (Elite (occasionally spelled élite) is taken originally from the Latin, eligere, “to elect”. In sociology as in general usage, the elite is a hypothetical group of relatively small size, that is dominant within a large society, having a privileged status perceived as being envied by others of a lower line of order.

    The elite at the top of the social strata almost invariably puts it in a position of leadership, whether it be expected or volunteered,

    and often subjects the holders of elite status to pressure to maintain that leadership position as part of status.

    (Hmm? I always wondered “why” the term “elite” was being used as a label in some derogatory effort to smear. Seems like the ” To Elect the Elected” applies to everyone on the Hill! To perciece

    “How else do you explain the meltdown going on in Washington and in political races across the country?” ( Hmm? how about millions of dollars spent each day to twist and turn and cast an image of a perceived “meltdown”. I think that explains it rather nicely.)

    We’re all going to die! but not until they take all of our toys!

    “President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden have taken to insulting their own voting base — and all other Americans as well. Obama recently said, in effect, Americans are scared stupid by their economic circumstances.” ( okay now, what did he really say? )

    (In effect, you are saying, you can’t or won’t offer us what he really said. I wonder why that might be?)

  • Bob Wire

    opps! , posted before I was finished .

    To perceive “elite” required one to perceive themselves as being “lowly”

    No wonder I don’t approve of the term and not a word I use often but only when it truly applies.

    One would be wise to get off their knees and consider themselves a force to be reckoned with, instead of wallowing in their defeat.

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      Bob-

      No, it doesn’t require anyone to think of themselves as “lowly” to “perceive” the elite. It’s much more straightforward than that.

      By elite, we mean people who think they know better, and don’t listen to those who disagree as having legitimate points of view. That pretty much summarizes the Progressive movement.

      Tt’s time for Progressives to stop thinking of people who disagree with them as dumb. It doesn’t appear to be productive politically, which seems, well…dumb.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Those who are the so called elite, are those who think of themselves as higher up and better than the rest of us. It has nothing to do with the rest of us feeling lower. Guys like George Soros, who is consider an elitist, are far, far below me. You see, guys like him, measure wealth by what they accumulate. When in fact, wealth is determined, by what one gives away. And when I give away 100.00 to a charity, that guy has to give a whole lot more to even come close to that, and its not going to happen continually. No sir. Him and the so called elite, are that way in their heads, and thats it.

  • MidnightPoet

    I wish I still had the book, and cannot even remember the name of it, but it was copyrighted in the 1800′s, a very old book, and it was about America’s Greatest Speeches. One of those speeches was by Benjamin Franklin, and he stated specifically that when the day comes in America that elected officials “make a living” at being elected officials(AKA: Politicians), then this would bring about the downfall of this country, because his point was in the speech that “elected officials” end up serving themselves, instead of…”The People!”

    I say we go back to the old ways of doing things in government, downsize it, make government as small as possible, force the elected officials to have “regular jobs” as the founding fathers originally intended, so that we might restore America to her “original condition!”

    • bruce d.

      Benjamin Franklin was a great man. He wrote an autobiography of part of his life. I thoughly enjoyed it.

    • Mick

      MidnightPoet says:

      I say we go back to the old ways of doing things in government, downsize it, make government as small as possible, force the elected officials to have “regular jobs” as the founding fathers originally intended, so that we might restore America to her “original condition!”
      ***************************************
      MidnightPoet,,,,,,,,,,You have the right idea,,
      If it worked why did they have to mess with it ?

      • slickporsche

        THey did not have control and wanted it. It is all about control.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Its because as the country grew and had more and more people, more and more money was being collected, and when you start collecting large amounts of money, there is always corruption and those who seek to control it and have power, and its become more and more polluted and corrupt, year after year after year, because of the quest for control of the money. When money becomes your god, your doomed. Man cannot serve both God and money. Thats the way it was written, a long long time ago, and not a thing has changed with the One who wrote that. Only man has changed.

    • Al Sieber

      MidnightPoet, I’m pretty sure I have that book, if I find it I’ll post the quote. and the author, and the publisher etc.

      • libertytrain

        I have something similar as well but will have to dig through the bookshelves to find it and see if it’s the same.

  • Bob Wire

    I wish we could Midnight, I wish we could.

    But I don’t see a way to get there from here. And every if we could somehow manage it, ~ There be a lot of work to do and few people left to do it. So much work would go undone.

    Being disorganized would place us/USA in even greater harms way I fear.

    It’s going to take more then one persons lifetime to change what happening today.

    But today, is a great day to start.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You are right on with this one Bob. We have a lot of work to do. And people like you and I, who see things from a different perspective, have got to realize we are both Americans, and do what is right for America, and not what is right for foreign governments and terrorists trying to kill us. We must stand united as Americans. Those who are in charge are not doing that, and to tell the truth sir, this current administration has cause more division between people and the parties than any I have ever seen in my 52 years of living. Its a terrible division they are causing, and continue to proceed to divide some more. And America see’s it, and is going to do what they can to stop it, by voting them all out of office here in a couple of days, and again in 2012. Thats why we the people have the power. We can tell them bye bye, and we are going to do just that.

  • CLARENCE SWINNEY

    INCOME DISTRIBUTION

    TOP 1%
    1976–8.9%
    2007—23.5%
    1928—23%

    Net worth Forbes 400—2007—1.5 TRILLION
    Net worth Poorest 50%-2007—1.6 Trillion

    Minimum wage–$7.25 per hour
    Ceo Chespeake Energy–$27,034.74 per hour

    Average hourly wage inflation adjusted—1972–$20.06
    Average hourly wage inflation adjusted—-2008–$18.52

    “Real” after-tax income growth 1979-2008
    Bottom quintile to top—11%-18-21-32-86-112%-(Top 5% 143%—Top 1% 256%)
    Change Family Income growth 1947-1979
    Bottom quintile to top—+116%-100-111-114-99-86%

    1945-1979 was Equitable Distribution
    1980-2008 was Third World Distribution

    Harvard and Duke Universities made a survey of 5000 people.
    They showed the Wealth held by the richest 20% and middle 20% of population in two nations.
    One was labeled A one B. 92% chose A.

    In A the distribution was 20% had 36% of wealth—middle 20% had 18%–60% had 46%
    In B the distribution was 20% had 84% of wealth—middle 20% had 4%—-60% had 12%

    Which would you choose?

    A=Sweden
    B=United States of Inequality

    clarence swinney
    olduglymeanhonest mad madmad
    political historian
    lifeaholics of america
    burlington nc
    author-Lifeaholic—Life story of how to achieve success by working for a Life not just a living
    Dr Norman Wiggins President Campbell University-”Every student should have this book”
    clarence swinney “Darn right”

    • JeffH

      CLARENCE SWINNEY, go back to the Huff Post and Democratic Underground where you belong.

      • Bob Wire

        what wrong Jeffy? don’t like those numbers?

        • Angel Wannabe

          No BW, thats not it at all, we’re allergic to Liberals__!!

        • JeffH

          Not at all Mr. Bob Wire, Mr. Swinney is nothing more than a paid schill for the Democratic Underground and you can also read him on the Huff Post forums…get it…paid as in $$$! Research it yourself!

    • eddie47d

      You are right Swinney, I just read that yesterday that wages are about $3.00 less now for the average worker. While Corporate big wigs wages have skyrocketed. That is the sinister plot that is destroying the once strong middle class.

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      Clarence-
      Think about the word “covet”. It’s a core Progressive value. It ends up taking everyone down, including the minimum wage worker. Europe coming apart at its Progressive seams.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You forgot some awfully important numbers there old whinney. I mean Swinney. How about how much of the tax burden these so called wealthy people paid, and continue to pay. The people you purport as poor in your status report, dont even pay taxes, yet the supposed rich, pay over 85 percent of the taxes. How convenient to leave out that they are taxed to death, then when they die are taxed again. You fail to show how business’s that are successful, are punished and demonized by idiots like you,when they are taxed to death, yet those who continually fail, like GM and Chrysler, are rewarded by this left wing liberal government, and you probably think that to be just fine. Your a loser, and your picking and choosing statistics show it.

  • 2WarAbnVet

    Obarfa is correct when he says that Americans are scared. They are scared of unbridled government spending, of being ruled by the whims of dozens of unelected “czars”, of the power of the state crushing liberty, of legislators acting against the will of the people, and most of all of Obama.

    • Wayne

      2WarAbnVet, I’m glad you feel different than the other veteran does.

  • GIVEMEFREEDOM

    Hey “American Veteran” I’ll take one Sarah Palin for any 10 Nancy Pelosis, Babrbara Boxers, Olympia Snowes, Mrs. Clintons, any dumb ass liberal progressive bleeding heart female, etc. etc. ad nauseum.
    You must have had a bad experience with a beautiful female librarian back in your nubile years. Get over it.
    The TEA PARTY candidates are your best bet in over-turning the politically corrupt parties that have been in charge of our/your government since your inception date of 1913.
    Add

    • Patriot

      Amen!

      • Wayne

        I say Amem also.

        • David

          Cubed!

    • Bob Wire

      “Hey “American Veteran” I’ll take one Sarah Palin for any 10 Nancy Pelosis, Babrbara Boxers, Olympia Snowes, Mrs. Clintons, any dumb ass liberal progressive bleeding heart female, etc. etc. ad nauseum.”

      What a foolish thing to say, until you really enjoy moose chili !

      let’s face it you don’t care much for bright women.

      I prefer mine bright, soft, no balls and a lot of stick.

      • JeffH

        “I prefer mine bright, soft, no balls and a lot of stick”

        I would guess that means either one wearing a “strap on” or a steer or possibly a casterated transvestite.

      • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

        Progressive Headline: “We’re here for women and minorities!”

        Subtitle: “Except those that don’t agree with our politics.”

  • Patriot

    Tea Party movement is at its’ beginning stages, first weed out all the moderate Republicans then we can start on the liberal & progressive Democrats. The road is going to be long and rough, stay the course and we will finally weed these career politicians out! Reduce their term, pay and pensions and everything will change for the better! Stay the course we will out wit and out last the liars and crooks, the truth will never go out of style!

  • BETTY

    Wow…If it were not for the Koch Brothers billion dollar funding of the tea party…there would be no tea party. Which brings me to this, would you people really want the the tea party in control, for whoever controls the funding controls the tea party. Look up the record of the Koch brothers and you just might want to change your minds….father a member of the John Birch society, hated everybody and supposedly hated communists, but the family fortunes were made in dealings with the Soviet Union under Stalin. Obama is also controlled but he is controlled by the elites who put him in office. do you think he is really running anything? give me a break. Your rantings against Obama is just what they wanted so as to divert the real attention away from thier own evil past and present aspirations which is to control the entire world and all of it’s wealth and resources, but alas, thier power is weakening, my guess is that they will probably join forces with tea party to share the wealth. People wake up or you will continue to be slaves of the evil system.

    • slickporsche

      I sure hope you are wrong. It is a good point you brought up though.I think we can over come, by being involved in government and voting out all the rot.

      • Bob Wire

        Your zeal has clouded you vision. The Tea Party is but a toy by Maco ! Here today and in a garage sale tomorrow for a quarter.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Sounds to me like the thought theory the democrats use considering blind followers like you. A dime a dozen, and they can buy another one.

    • Eric Bischoff

      I agree Betty. You might be interested in Catherine Austin Fitts’ Financial Coup D’état article. http://solari.com/blog/?p=2058

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      If your post is truly sincere, yes, I’d want the Tea Party due to core values. We need those core values to oppose government intrusion. I think recently a grad student in California did a check of signs at Tea Party events and found thousands about spending and intrusion, and 6 signs that were not. It’s been the Progressive strategy to make people think the Tea Party was mostly crazy people. It has only helped the Tea Party grow, so it’s pretty clear which message is making more sense to Americans. People who tie themselves into a knot because they can find fault everywhere will have to settle for what they get.

    • Al Sieber

      BETTY, what do you know about the John Birch Society? they were set up by William F. Buckley who really was a communist, check it out.

      • Robert S

        Al I belonged to the Birch Society 40 years ago. It was started by Robert Welch who owned a manufacturing company. Most of the members were Patriotic Americans but were soon infiltrated by gov’t operatives. Buckley was the one who helped destroy it. Better get your facts straight.

  • Carlucci

    I agree with Wayne. I checked my Congressman’s (a RINO) voting records and he rubber stamped all the freedom killing & phony war legislation during Bush 41 and Bush 43. And then of course I get newsletters from him lamenting how awful the Obama administration is. Of course they are awful, but the Bushes were terrible, too. I will not be voting for my congress critter next month and sent his office an email telling him that and why he no longer gets my vote.

    From now on, I will be watching. If the citizenry would have done their part in the beginning and watched these reps like hawks, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now. The “Kick them all Out” and GOOOH (Get out of our House) projects say don’t vote for any encumbents. That sends a message to the entrenched politicos that they can be fired and sends the same message to their replacements.

    • Wayne

      Carlucci, it would be wonderful if everyone felt like you. We all need to watch our representatives like hawks watching their prey when they are hungry. The big 64000 thousand dollar question is, how can we do that? People will spend the entire week-end watching their favotite sports, but will not spent any time watching their representative to see what they are doing. I am not against watching sports, but those same people should at least dedicate an hour or two a week seeing what their representative are doing. It is not any wonder why this country is going down hill. Did you see a couple of weeks ago that the folks who work for GM was on their lunch break smoking Marijuana and drinking liquor. And this is Union Members doing this after the taxpayer bailed their butts out to keep them in a job. This should be a slap in the fact to all Americans. NObama shame on you, you should have bailed them out. A person learns his lesson a lot better when he has to sit on his own blister. I wss never for these bail outs anyway.

      • Bob Wire

        I think you will find Wayne , that you and can go much faster and cover more material if you quit watching the news and start reading it !

        I quit watching TV in July ~ for many reasons, one it repletes itself.

        It hammers and hammers, ~ it has became a propaganda tool, and programing devise.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          It is a democratic propaganda tool, and judging by most of your comments, now not all of them, as some were right on, but most of them sounds like they come from someone who sounds exactly like what I hear on the alphabet news channels. They have hammered it into you sir, as some of your comments seem to be word for word some of the left wing liberal diatribe I have heard them spew over and over again. Now some have told me to quit watching Fox News, when in fact I watch Fox News when I want the truth, but I do also tune into the alphabet networks, to see if they have changed, and no sir, they havent yet. Still the left wing liberal diatribe daily. And still, unbelievably, they cannot figure out for the life of them why their ratings are so low. I make sure I flip between them evenly, so that Im not responsible for driving up their ratings. Just a little bit to check on them, and its still one sided as it has been for years. They just dont seem to understand why Fox is rated so much higher than them. Maybe when they come to the realization that people like to hear some truth in the news, they will come to their senses and fire these left wing liberals that are more interested in telling people their agenda, than in reporting what is actually true.

      • Robert S

        Those who couldn’t care less what happens to our country will pay for it in the end. Smart people are stocking up on food and other necessities for at least 6 months and maybe longer. Gas is going up to $5.00 or more next year. The gov’t is going to take over all private pensions. They might declare a bank holiday to keep you from accessing your money. Everyone should have a good amount of cash on hand in case this happens. Some precious metals would help.

  • Carlucci

    Betty is right. Obummer is just a meat puppet for the real powers that be.

    • Angel Wannabe

      carlucci, I’d prefer to say, Obama is “Chum”!lol

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He is just the figure head for the democratic party. He does and goes in the direction they tell him to go. Everyone always wants to blame the President, but his party is the one who says do this and do that. Given, he is supposed to lead, but this guy has never been a leader, and never ever shown leadership skills. He helps people organize in communities, to raise money for democrats. That all the qualifications he had to run. Amazing isnt it. Just as the Bush bashers continually still point fingers at Bush, he is the one that went to war. It took congress to vote on it. It took many democrats to vote on it. But he was going in the right direction and had the right idea in suggesting we quit letting these guys punch us in the nose, and finally strike back. I applaud that. It should have happened a long time ago, but Slick Willy was too busy playing with cigars and interns. Thats a fact, not a story. Stone cold fact. But it isnt Obama alone, he is just he figure head. One man cannot come in and do whatever he wants to do. It takes an act of congress. This guy has the house and the senate, and still he continues to dig a hole and empower our enemies. And its time for him to go.

  • Mick

    BETTY says:
    October 25, 2010 at 11:56 am
    Wow…If it were not for the Koch Brothers billion dollar funding of the tea party…there would be no tea party. Which brings me to this, would you people really want the the tea party in control, for whoever controls the funding controls the tea party. Look up the record of the Koch brothers and you just might want to change your minds….father a member of the John Birch society, hated everybody and supposedly hated communists, but the family fortunes were made in dealings with the Soviet Union under Stalin. Obama is also controlled but he is controlled by the elites who put him in office. do you think he is really running anything? give me a break. Your rantings against Obama is just what they wanted so as to divert the real attention away from thier own evil past and present aspirations which is to control the entire world and all of it’s wealth and resources, but alas, thier power is weakening, my guess is that they will probably join forces with tea party to share the wealth. People wake up or you will continue to be slaves of the evil system.
    **********************************
    Betty, you’re the prime example why America is sinking.

    What will you do for the poor if you destroy the rich ?
    the Obama group will enslave you and the rest of us if you refuse to open your eyes……

    • Bob Wire

      No , Betty is right. The Tea Party’s purpose is to defend Special Interest and the most Wealthy. Maybe you don’t know that or just don’t agree.

      The wealthy only have “one vote” like all the rest of us. So this requires them to encourage people to see things their way. People that feel the poor wealthy need to be defended and incapable of defending themselves.

      Many of us understand this, We are not wishing to destroy the wealthy but wish them to pay their share of the load.

      The wealthy doesn’t need the help that many of you offer them. They are doing quit nicely actually and their numbers have grown at rate equal to the working poor.

      We need higher wages or lower cost in America today. It’s one or the other to offset the disparity that been created in America over the last 30 years.

      All these Tea Party “taking points” while interesting and perhaps offers the seed of a new enlightenment and direction, what truly matters today is just your one vote and they plan to get it if it requires talking about baby showers.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        No sir. The Tea Party is to watch out for me, the 50 thousand dollar a year man. The middle class American. That is who they stand for. But you could mis-interpret things with your blind liberalism, in thinking that because they think it is wrong to keep punishing successful business’s who pay 85 percent or more of the countries taxes. It is wrong bubba. Ever have a poor man give you a job. Have you? Has anyone? No sir bubba. Not a one. I was brought up by democrat parents who taught me the democrats were for the working man the republicans were for the rich man, and Ive found out that to be so very, very wrong. The Republicans are for supporting business’s and letting them have their money, so that they can expand and hire more workers, who in turn all pay taxes. It was proven under Bush’s tax cuts, that millions more were hired, and the government by lowering taxes, actually had much more coming into the tax coffers, via income tax, and more people working and having money to buy things, and paying tax on that, and the business’s making the sales paying their tax. But the democrats got it all wrong. They want to tax the hell out of them, so that they dont have the cash to build and expand, and hire people, and next thing you know, were in a recession and there isnt enough money coming into the tax coffers, so they want to add more tax to cover it. They they expand social services and government handouts to the lazy arse’s that dont want to work, and then they have to tax more to pay for that. Its a stupid, stupid system they run, and they need to stop. Watch what happens as soon as they take away these tax cuts. Im telling you a couple of million will lose their jobs. Just watch and see. Raising taxes is not the way. Removing them is, and letting business’s and people have their money, and the economy will heal itself. But you keep having the government grow and taxes grow, and keep taking money away from successful business and people, and its a lose, lose situation. Any one with any brains at all can see that. So why cant the democrats? I dont get it.

  • Hans Brinkhuis

    I Know I voted on Octobr 14th 2010 I just voted strait republican becaus I am fed up with the democrats. I Hope the new replublicans can
    work with the tea party and place them also in the oovermnt so we get
    America on the right track again.
    When Reagon was president the people had Bob Hope and Johny Cash,
    nd now we have Obama as president or comander in chief and he never servd in the armed forces, and now the people as no Hope and no Cash.
    And this old congress did the people on social security a favor for
    not give thema COlA increase for the second year in a row, but yet
    they gave themself a good increase first hat’s real joke.

    • http://libertymind.wordpress.com Patriot1776

      This Union has been off track since the beginning of the last century. I say repeal the 20th century.

      • Bob Wire

        “Get a Horse!”

  • 45caliber

    Most politicians simply can’t understand why someone who has lost his job might be concerned about the economy. After all, the politicians have one of the most stable jobs in the US (3% historically lose their jobs upon reelection) and they get paid so much that they don’t need to worry about bills and food. Further, if they do lose their jobs, they are rich enough that it doesn’t matter to them if they can’t find a new job for years.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Yes sir. They do what is it, two terms in congress, then collect like 260,000.00 a year the rest of their lives? Thats why they spend so much trying to get elected. Its all about collecting this big payday the rest of their lives. So what is their motivation, once they get in? This should be taken away, and now. No one gets that kind of retirement plan. How are you going to tell me, that it makes sense to pay them more in retirement for the rest of their lives, than we did while they were working? Nice gig theve set up for themselves. This needs repealed right away. They like the unions so much, set them up with the equivalency of a GM worker that retires with 30 years service, and call it good. 260 grand a year? Give me a break. How did we allow them to rob us like this? Lawyers.

  • http://www.NewAmericaRepublic.com RICH Novak

    Citizens of the usa please understand this

    democrats = republicans = political elite

    They are all the same -

    the political elite are only tricking you into thinking that you have a choice – unfortunately now in the usa you really only have a choice between the lesser of evils.

    Maybe it is time for you to consider some other options -

    Please visit http://www.NewAmericaRepublic.com

    Thank YOU!

    • Wayne

      Rich, you don’t vote for a person because he is either a Democrat, or a Republican. Hopefully that’s what the Tea Party is supposed to do, pick out the best of those running for office and then support them. Hopefully some day in the near future they will be able to vet the people the Republican pick to make sure they are a citizen of this of this country by looking at their birth certificate, make sure they don’t have a felony record, and be of sound mind and good character. Would’t it have been nice if the Democrats would have vetted NObama like this? We would not be having this problem with whether he is a citizen or not.

      • Bob Wire

        You contradict yourself Wayne. You vote Republican and that’s the end of the story.

        What you say that’s happening in the Tea Party, I don’t see yet. Not if Sharon Angle is your choice or the many other light weights the Tea Party has offered up. Rand Paul being the closest thing to a heavy hitter they have offered up to date.

        I wish they would get Palin to run for something and put the question of her political worth to rest. I don’t think she ever will. She’s PEP Squad material and I believe she knows it .

        The Tea Party is as partisan as they come. Shoring up the GOP vote by telling you what you want to hear said, while still being an empty shirt and cow-tow to special interest and the powers that be on the hill.

        all hat and no cattle.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I could not disagree more. One side fully believes in murdering babies in their mothers womb, and the other doesnt. One side fully believes in giving special rights to those who sodomize thier buddy, and the other does not. One side fully believes in giving lawyers and protection to terrorists trying to kill us, and have done just that, and the other side does not. I dont need to tell you or anyone reading this which party is which, but we all know. And they are not the same in any way, shape, or form. You are wrong sir.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    The two party system is the problem….you are stuck with two choices…thats not freedom that called a setup in any other circle, Common sence should tell you that.

    Until America wakes up, disconnects from the boob tube…its doomed

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      No sir. We all have the freedom to vote for a Libertarian if we so choose. I personally like a lot of the things I hear out of your party. However, the more I research, it seems you guy are also content to kick God to the curb and want a Godless society. I cannot vote for that, and neither can the 65 to 75 percent of this countries inhabitants who call themselves Christians or believers in God.

  • http://none Mike

    You know I see alot of talk about a 3rd party on this sight. There is a way to do that and make it a viable effort. Here’s how. We elect the people from the (Tea Party)as conservitives. When they get into offices we watch their voteing records closely.Once in office for 2 years(a good enough span to know how they are going to vote)we the people encourge the most conservitive of these to switch their party affiliation to either Tea Party or libiratarian mid stream(this has been done before so there is presadence). Ask them to draw others of a like mind as them into this third party. This gives the american people (mostly masses that only identify with a party with no real knowledge of what that party really stands for)time to assemilate the idea of this said third party being viable. Then as we start to fund these parties and back their canidates more and more can be elected from this third party. Just my opinion as an observer from outside the party lines but I think this is about the only way to get a viable third party elected and funded. Please share your opinions and point out where I might be wrong about this. Mike L.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      That sounds like a good idea. Too Many Americans are brainwashed to believe that anything other then a Blue or red vote is a waste…Coke or pepsi, etc…. That would be an excellent way to show Americans that party affiliation is NOT the candidates saving grace.
      Problem remains that Corporate Interests remain in control of both parties right now.

      The only way the Dem/Rep parties will be restored to parties of the people is when the elites lose interest & profits in this whole mess. When its no longer a financially prudent to support elected officials the parties will be returned to We The People. Till that day…they are nothing more then political hostages.

      This is the MAIN reason the Libertarian party muddles along..NO CORPORATION or MEDIA in their right mind would support a political party that serves the people NOT CORPORATE WELFARE.

      • http://none Mike

        Bitter , There is a way to take out that corprate funding you talk about. Its called makeing block funding illegal. By block funding I mean this,The bigger corperations and even some smaller ones take up collected monies from their workers and then make one block donation to one party or the other. This dilutes the will of the people to the will of the coperation. Also do away with the slush fund monies that are doled out by the government to either party to fund their elections. This also dilutes the will of the people to the will of the goverment. Untill we get back to funding a canidates election by people who donate dollars at a time not entities that donate millions at a time. Its going to be hard to change politics as usual. Mike L.

        • http://none Mike

          Forgot to add something a little funny there I like how Rush defends this block funding by saying that the corperation is following the will of its employees by donateing this money for them. I would like to see any corperation that has more than a 1,000 employees say they know where the mony was ment to be spent by every one of them. My opinion but the truth none the less I bet. Mike L.

        • Barbara

          I have seen Tea Party funding appeals in my E-mail. Next day, I get another saying thanks, we raised 1+ million. This is individuals supporting candidates, no corporations involved at all. It looks to me like Tea Party is taking over R’s. It will take a while, but not as long as you seem to think.

          The way to “fix” the problems we face is simply restore the original Constitution and Bill of Rights. All the rest of the “amendments” must be researched thoroughly. I read somewhere that the 16th was never ratified. Things like this have to be remedied. No ratification, no amendment. The 17th is also a major mistake. No amendment which changes the intent of any provision made by the original document may be ratified. And you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to understand it. It wasn’t written by lawyers. It was written by merchants and farmers and ordinary people. The language is clear.

          In order to graduate to high school, I had to pass an examination on the Constitution. If an 8th grader can understand it, you surely don’t need a lawyer to interpret it.

          It is also imperative that the SC be held accountable for any decision based on any law other than the Constitution. Any decision based on European or International law (or Sharia) is grounds for impeachment and removal from office.

          I know this will create a lot of chaos, but in order to have the time to accomplish this, it is necessary to secure our borders. Also repeal Obamacare, including the portion of the “so called” stimulus package that created the Panels that have the authority to decide who receives what care. The Constitution does not give the federal government any jurisdiction over health care whatsoever.

          There are a lot of other areas needing cleaning up, but you get the idea?

          • http://none Mike

            This is somewhat close to what I was getting at in election funding. I think it should be done by persons not entities of any sort. This would go a long way twords eliminating the other problems I see as well. By all means restore the bill of rights and the constitution to the forfront of our law. It should have never left there to start with. But untill we as citizens start to pay attention to all aspects of the process we will not change much on either side of the isle. Mike L.

  • Mushin

    What was the last statement in this article? “What about common sense, a grounding in real-world values and an understanding of the Founding principles?” – this say’s it all – THIS IS WHAT THE ELITISTS ARE LACKING.

    We are the ONLY country in history to win independence from the British Empire, one of thee most terrifying and dominant governments ever to exist…and now it seems, we are being lead back to this arena despite the dire warnings of our Great Forefathers….

  • Madazhell

    I sincerely hope for this country’s sake that enough voters can learn to see the bigger picture here and stop focusing on individuals, name calling, party bashing etc. The fact is both parties are/have been in on this fleecing of American Citizens since 1913 as American Veteran has said.
    WE need to have 300 constitutionalists who are committed to the ideal of returning our once great country to it’s roots. We need people with deep pockets to fund them. We then can take this country back in one fell swoop, thereby preventing those now in control from declaring martial law and breaking our efforts.

  • Madazhell

    Well as for voting, look the opposing party has planted and funded candidates on the republican/ democratic side in the past to split the vote and allow the candidate who is secretly “on their side” to get elected. I no longer trust elections

  • Madazhell

    I agree with Bitter Libertarian when he/she says

    Problem remains that Corporate Interests remain in control of both parties right now.
    This has been the case for decades. Time to put an end to it.

  • Madazhell

    AMERICAN VETERAN!!
    RIGHT ON man, we need more people like you who actually get what has happened to this country to educate the masses. Anyone else feel the same way? Lets get it done.

  • John C

    Hitler was educated give me common sense any day… then the fed would be audited regularly, the deficit would solved eventually, and the legal bribes called washington lobbyest would be removed. Try goggle: America Daughter of Babylon! that will get your moral religious fiber turning.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

    Riding the wave of Common Sense? I hate to inform you but Political Correctness has calmed and flattened that ocean. In the U.S., Common Sense is dead, and the culprit who killed it is Political Correctness. When Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) and Will Rogers (Himself) were alive, Common Sense was considered to be worth more than any educational degree, because mainly it had to be based in truth or it didn’t make sense and not common if it weren’t truthful, because nobody expected to be told lies. Today their is a new gunslinger in town, Political Correctness, which demands you be deceitful to keep from offending anyone. We all long for the days of truthfulness through Common Sense, but today are being held hostage by Political Correctness which forces us to accept lies so as not to offend someone, even when we know the truth. Some call that compassion, I call it tyranny, but whatever you call it, its whats wrong with our society today. So if you’re trying to ride that wave of Common Sense, I sure hope you brought along a paddle, for you’ll certainly need it.

    • http://none Mike

      Good points Randy, I think though if we really start paying attention though and not just towing a party line we just might restore some waves in that ocean. And I think if this lame duck congress does what I think it will during the session it wont only be a wave but a tusnami of epic proportions(just think meteior impact ocean and you will get my thought)Mike L.

      • 45caliber

        All I can say is that those “lame duck” Congressmen had better be aware of the wash from such a wave.

        • http://none Mike

          I think like alot of turkies they would drown in the rain . Yea they will do all they can to impliment the worst aspects of their agenda and make laws so it would be hard to repeal once they see the handwriteing on the wall.In 2012 though we have to finish housecleaning and start untangeling the messes made. Mike L

    • 45caliber

      I agree. What gets me about Political Correctness is that if you (as a minority of some sort) are offended, you can sue me. But if I’m offended, I can’t sue you. If PC was actually of use, it would be equally fair both directions. But it is intended only to silence complaints about liberalism – and communism.

  • Palin12

    Several voting irregularities being reported here in Nevada this week. People stating they cast their ballot for Angle, and then the printout says Reid.

    • Wayne

      Golly, what authority could investigate this? No one from the Federal Government as they can not be trusted. I wonder if they have a Democrat Governor or otherwise? This had better be nipped in the bud before Novermber 2nd. Can we trust Harry Reid, hell no!!!!

      • http://none Mike

        Can you say a totaly independent oversight committiy of real citizens. Sure you can. And make sure they are all armed to the teeth lolWould put a stop to alot of this slinking fruad we see in some of the elections. Mike L.

      • Palin12

        Wayne
        Our Governor is Republican but he’s been hospitalized lately for a fractured pelvis suffered by being thrown from his horse.

    • http://libertymind.wordpress.com Patriot1776

      This is so crazy…. Every election we have “concerns about voter fraud” and every election nothing is done about it. Since the Florida “hanging chad” problem we “fixed” the problem by computerizing the vote….brilliant, now voter fraud is easier and less detectable. It pisses me off.

    • 45caliber

      Palin:

      This doesn’t surprise me a bit! It is far too easy to program a computer to do whatever you want with it. It would be sheer simplicity to change the programming to count every third or every other vote for the person you wanted elected, regardless of who the actual vote was for. And five minutes or less with each voting machine after the election would make all the evidence (the programming) go away as it was changed back.

      • Palin12

        45caliber
        I also wonder about the voting cards they give us to put in the machine. It looks like a credit card. Fortuneatly I did look at my printout (although you can’t touch it) and my ballot was indeed cast for Angle.

        • Palin12

          No doubt Acorn is working hard again.

          • Eric Bischoff

            It’s amazing to me that you don’t side with a real populist grass root movement like Acorn. You would rather believe the status quo threatened propaganda because god forbid they got POOR black people to vote. God forbid we allow them to vote.

            The campaign to discredit Acorn has long been proven to be false but too late as the damage had already been done in the public courtroom of the ever fair & balanced Fox news. The spineless democrats went along and illegally defunded Acorn.

            Now on the other hand the Republican made Voting machines these are totally trustworthy!

            And obviously if you still believe that Iraq had WMDs and that Saddam was linked to Bin Laden then it is not hard to see how you could believe that Acorn stole the election just like you probably still believe that the Black Panthers were a terrorist organization or that there is no global warming. It’s all a communist plot.

            You are so gullible and so easy to manipulate.

          • Palin12

            Eric you moron
            Here in Nevada, Acorn registered the entire Dallas Cowboys team in addition to a whole bunch of dead people. You cannot argue that fact. They worked on a quota system and were expected to register 20+ new voters per day. Being funded by taxpayer dollars, they were required to be non-partisan, but they were anything but non-partisan, with Hope and Change banners all over their walls. You Sir, are bringing up the race card again. There are many good black people that I have a great deal of respect and admiration for. I’d love to see the look of disbelief and depression on your face when you wake up on Nov 3 and face reality.

          • Bob Wire

            Palin, I read that article and it’s just as you say it is.

            I’m for hanging anyone that attempts to manipulate the vote.

            But that said, ~ The Dallas Cowboys?

            Now you can take this face value as you seem to be but something about this reeks of some underhanded attempt to discredit ACORN.

            I’d say they did a good job of it!

            It shows a serious weakness in ACORN”s system.

          • a progressive nightmare

            t Eric…..Your comments are about the most foolish I have ever heard come out of an adult mouth. You cannot possibly believe that? If so, you are a certifiable loon. Defend ACORN????? HUH????

          • Robert S

            The only place Acorn could swing a vote is in the cities and they always vote Democratic anyway

  • dahni uru

    When our society no longer supports the efforts of the majority to produce, it will no longer be able to support the needs of the minority. What ratio of ‘takers’ to ‘makers’ will bring about that collapse? We create a new program to provide a new Entitlement, then need to hire more government employees to supervise that Entitlement.

    But, government employees don’t go away if their program goes away. Consider TARP. Now that funds are distributed the TARP committee would be disbanded, right? Nope, the TARP committee wants to double it’s size in order to now supervise the use to use the TARP funds. It takes more to see if it is being used correctly than to decide to whom it should be given in the first place.

    • 45caliber

      There have always been people who won’t work. Beggars, for instance. But our government system supports such people now.
      If our government was to stop supporting them, we’d see riots that would make those in Greece look like a kindergarten class at play. However, I believe we’d be better off if we did. At least we could either lock them up or otherwise do something with them to thin them out again.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Not well thought out 45 caliber

        1 in 4 homeless persons is a veteran.

        4 times more Iraqi veterans die at home, committing suicide soon after coming home, than have died in Iraq. The Pentagon does not count them and therefore does not have to pay to bury them. How many single mothers are left behind. How many of them may end up homeless?

        Veterans 18-24 have unemployment rates twice as high.

        Lock them up, thin them out, geez, where is your compassion?

        • Bob Wire

          Eric, I’ve heard of some Vets getting a 200 dollar burial fee offered to family survivors.

  • http://none sean moor

    Hey maby rand paul and ron are in secrete groups.maby not. I read somewhere that ron paul was a freemason. He was good friends with ronald reagan.who was a 33rd degree freemason.but i allways read that not all freemasons are evil.some dont know what they are getting into. Im saying,its important to be causious. remember what jesus said about wolves in sheep clothing?

    • Claire

      sean moor–My husband is a Mason, and he is certainly not evil. He did not go all the “way up.” He has not attended a meeting for quite a few years.

      • Robert S

        Back in the 70s and 80s I lived in a town with a population of about 17,000. I found out that just about all of the workers in the town hall were Masons as were most Police and town supervisors. I don’t know how other towns are but wouldn’t be surprised. Almost every town has a Masonic Lodge. Most of the Masons were pretty decent people but were probably lower echelon.

  • http://none draper b. gregory

    Let’s just remember one thing: There is a political revolution which not only stands for adherence to the Constitution, but also will scrutinize the performance of our elected officials “during” their tenure. It’ll be hard work, but we shall do it, and call them to account forthwith, main stream media not-withstanding. Believe it. Draper

    • Bitter Libertarian

      We need a more efficient means to toss out the ones who violate the Constitution. Most current processes are not designed to be voter friendly.

      • http://none Mike

        Bitter and drapper, I say we start by bringing in citizen oversight committies to the polling places. And adress complaints of miss handeled votes on the spot. By citizen oversight I mean members of the community where the polling is taking place too not councile appointiees. (Armed to the teeth might help too but most likly wont happen) Mike L.

      • 45caliber

        I agree that we need a voter process. I suppose the original intent was that the voters would vote OUT anyone who trampled on the Constitution but too many of the voters either have no idea what the Constitution says or they are too interested in the Congressman giving them more “free” stuff.

      • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

        Ask your representative to submit a bill for term limits. And go from there.

  • asmithington

    Can’t we all just get along? In any situation or disagreement, check yourself first! This country needs a total revamping, that’s for sure. Go back to square-one, I say. Take a good look at our founding fathers and their principles that made us a great nation in the beginning. If we do not eliminate greed and selfishness, we will not survive, no matter where we go.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      You are correct for desiring that, however what many people do not understand is that the shadow Govt has created agencies, and organizations that feed off of the pities of one group, and the outrage of another, ultimately forcing others to pay for the resolution! This shadow govt has also been responsible for deliberate manipulation of the American People. Zombification of the nation is what they desired and by God they got a damn big chunk walking around clueless!
      The way I see it is we are facing a HUGE crossroads…Massive Unemployment + Massive Debt + an increasing population with a decreasing tax revenue senario. My belief is that something big is gonna happen real soon, and I dont believe its Martial Law or A Revolt although those are options, just not very profitable ones. Were they to do either, the cat would be out of the bag and let me just say that I dont believe it would go well for those in power.

      My Instincts tell me its 1939 right now and we are facing another very large scale war (WWIII) with the draft targeting the unemployed, all 40 million of them. Its the most profitable and only logical thing to do if you are an elite.

      • asmithington

        AMEN!

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      Simple answer…no. That of course is the Progressive Dream, but not reality. But it doesn’t have to get you down. You can look at it differently if you want to.

  • marvin

    let me throw some mud old dumbbo and his liberals are screaming about out side money pour in from undisclosed sorces but the sei union has gave over 40 million to the dembocrats and they have a large illegal work force same for a lot of unions as long as you pay your dues the unions don,t care who or where your from, as for the goverment all the 1st ament sez is they can not tell you to be a babtist or a buda,their is no seperation of church and state the word seperation is not in the constitution,the liberals has got to the point where undocumented is illegal but not criminal,find that in the law books,and here is a point any federal elected or appointed offical from any state affect you on how they vote,obama took in over 800 million in cam cont but would not say where most came from, on illegal immigration only ones obama holder and nepolitano are having deported are murders and big drug dealer,they are picking what laws to enforce,if any,as for voting
    i don,t belong to a tribe,if hastings or waters or rangel, or anyone where running for or where in congress and where charged with a crime and where proven guilty like hastings of taking bribes and impeaced,or voted for a bill and not read it ,you can rest assured that i would not vote for them,that is why we are called a free nation to act and thank as a free person,not with the offer of hand outs,only thing that is yours is what you worked and paid in or for,not what the goverment can take from someone and give to you

    • James

      The First Amendment says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” ‘Congress shall make no law’ means congress has no power whatsoever over religion, that’s what it says, and that’s what it means.

  • Dalesbest4

    I would love to kick them all out and start over fresh, but here is what I see. The voters most likely to try to vote them out are republicans, and you can’t vote someone out, you have to vote someone in. In order to vote someone out you would have to vote for their opponit. Is this what you really want?

    • Bitter Libertarian

      As opposed to …..?

      • http://none Mike

        Bitter I left an answer to your money question see if you like that idea as well Mike L.

        • Bitter Libertarian

          I Like that Idea, and with all the unemployed I would think more people would be outraged and have ime to volunteer while collecting benefits..I just dont get it….nearly 40 million unemployed in this country..why arent they doing something? I guess they wont bite the hand that feeds them…zombies

  • James

    The separation of church and state saying, came about because Congress offered religious establishments tax exemption if they would cease and desist from all political activity. By signing the 50l(c)(3) tax exemption agreement, they agree to do that. If they want to be politically active, all they have to do is renounce their tax exemption agreement, so-inform the federal government of that, and pay their taxes like we all do. That was a bribe offered to churches and most of them took it, but anytime you accept money from the government, there are strings attached.

  • asmithington

    Check out “Shadow Government” on YouTube to learn whats really going on.

    • JeffH

      …add to that “Fall of the Republic”.

  • Ronald Johnston

    The obama yellow bellies are attacking Republican women because democratic women are the kind who would have been called witches in 1600 Massachusetts and might have been burned at the stake or stoned to death. In other words, they are evil. These slimy hateful
    obama yellow bellies, supposed human beings, do not deserve the benefits our country has afforded them. We need to send them to one of the socialist marxist countries they worship.

    • Eric Bischoff

      Nice try but I don’t think so. Witches were often the real healers in the community. They were midwives and alternative health practitioners. They believed in the celebration of mother earth and it’s cycles. and the planets. They used herb potions and challenged the status quo which once again was dominated by the church and the wealthy white males. These women challenged them so they burned up at the stake and in America as late as the 18th century they were hanged. Let’s get real mostly white Republican women are pretty much the opposite of that.

  • Eric Bischoff

    Common sense has nothing to do with it.

    If Thomas Paine was here today, he would be labeled a crazy, progressive, liberal and the ignorant masses would crucify him.

    Fear and ignorance is driving everything and Billionaires and their media are making sure of that.

    Notice to the Tea Party and the Republicans

    To the people who have been fooled into joining the Tea Party movement as if this was a populist movement to take back America for We The People, shame on you. Two Billionaires have funded this and millions are flowing into this, some of it untraceable. Just the fact that the most watched news network Fox is promoting this is a serious concern.

    I predict that If you keep going down this path many of you will someday have to answer for crimes at a new version of the Nuremberg trials and ignorance will not be an acceptable defense.

    You claim to want a small government but you are hypocrites because you are not willing to tackle and control the largest budget expenditures, you only focus on eliminating any services that help people, workers or the environment. You want the government to be fully dedicated to helping corporations take an ever larger piece of the pie and do so without any controls or regulations whatsoever. Let the wealthy become wealthier. Money is your mantra and you still belive in the lower taxes and trickle down fairy tale!

    You have bought in to the fear mongers and as a result are OK with a large military industrial complex which has only one purpose and that is to prop up dictators, to oppress the masses, to invade and steal others’ resources and to insure that cheap unregulated labor and resources are available to us from all over the world. You are also OK with the obscenely large subsidies paid to already wealthy corporations. You just want the military and police to prop up this hypocrisy.

    What you are selectively against is anything that helps, people, the work force or the planet. You want government defanged so that it is unable to regulate the theft, unable to regulate polluters and unable to educate or care for the unemployed, sick and starving poor. Soon to be a majority of Americans.

    That is Fascism and mark my words you will have to answer for it.

    What is it that you want to Take Back America from? The banksters, the Treasury looters, the military Industrial Complex thieves, the corrupt Republi-Crats, the richest 1%, the Billionaire Oligarchy, the NeoFascists? Have you really thought this through?

    What is it that you want to Take back America to? Pre Civil Rights, pre-women’as right to vote, to the Fascism of the 30′s, or maybe even pre-emancipation proclamation?

    Oh and finally I am sorry but a lot of Tea Party candidates really are nincompoops.

    The First Amendment clearly states that:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    You people are seriously in denial.

    • JeffH

      Eric Bischoff, you’ve bought in to your own bile…thing is, we’ve heard your liberal smack too many times to even pay attention to you, so to you, a liberal hack, I say YADA, YADA, YADA!
      What you have to say is MEANINGLESS! baaaahhhh, baaaahhhh, baaaahhh!

      • Eric Bischoff

        Oh what do you know the typical bla bla bla response. What’s the matter, are you incapable of debating or negating anything I’ve said?

        • eddie47d

          Eric, He is like a mocking bird. Seldom wants to debate anything and Bla Bla is his usual cop out.

          • JeffH

            Polly want a cracker? bbbaaarrraaaccckkk!

        • JeffH

          Nothing to debate about, especially with a liberal schill like yourself Eric. Your Alinsky talking points will continue to be the same, status quo! Same goes for the leach that just latched on to your backside. The time for talking is over with and let the chips fall where they may!

          • Bitter Libertarian

            Eric (Like myself) is never 100% correct, none of us are. However he does IMHO hit many damn accurate points…I know not all the Tea Party people are misguided, but he is right..BEWARE of anything that the Mainstream media supports! False Flag ops fly both ways…attack & support!
            Corruption lies in both political parties because it works if it doesnt work for the elites (the rich) its not supported!

        • a progressive nightmare

          T Eric…..We don’t have a problem with debate and rebuttal except when dealing with the childish emotional mindset of a marxist, like you.

          • eddie47d

            Oh,sure Rev Nightmare you wouldn’t dare slander anyone in you’re calm easy going debates,right?

          • Denniso

            Most of the rightwing hotheads hear can’t even stay civil when discussing the weather. They’re like angry sows w/ their feed threatened.

          • Denniso

            The loudmouths made me do it…’here’

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      Our American system, with its freedoms without guarantees, MUST include side effects, just as any medication does…just as almost any idea will be opposed by some people because of our inherent individuality. The important thing is it produced the greatest country ever known. Is there a better system out there? I don’t think so, and I’m not willing to take a chance on your dreams. Utopian leaning society not based on self-reliance becomes unsustainable, and Europe is showing that to us as we speak. You certainly have the right to complain and covet what other’s have, or riot in the streets like the Greeks. I accept that as one of the unavoidable side effects of our American system.

    • Bob Wire

      “If Thomas Paine was here today, he would be labeled a crazy, progressive, liberal and the ignorant masses would crucify him.”

      Of course you know Eric ,this crowd tends to kill the messenger.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    As to voter fraud; it should be a Federal Offense with both stiff fines and prison terms imposed for those willfully engaging in. I’ve spoken to a couple of Congressman about passing such a law but there was zero interest in doing it. it seems to be an exclusively Democratic tactic for stealing elections.

    • Bob Wire

      I don’t know about that ! “W” first term was placed in the hands of “ONE” GOP Judge. That’s pretty much a “giv’me” , how else might you see it?

      Mc Cain was soundly defeated , beat like a drum, spanked like a red headed step child, Obama did the River Dance on him.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        The way I see it is the democrats have tried to fix every election in recent memory. Remember “hanging chads”, blocking the military absentee votes, illegals and criminals voting, ACORN, Move On, Motor Voter, dead people voting, more people voting than are on the voter reg. rolls, college students and others voting numerous times, ect., ect., ect. These things went on and are still going on in todays elections. All seem to favor the dems. I also understand the difference between the Electoral College and popular vote for Pres. and which one counts and why. In every valid re-count Bush won in Fla. And yes, McCain lost, as he should have. Unfortunately the winner, BO, is a worse nightmare.

  • Eric Bischoff

    The linking of the Tea Party movement to Thomas Paine’s Common Sense, the real Tea Party movement or MLK’s We have a Dream is about as shameful, obscene, corrupt and hypocritical as anything I have ever seen in politics. Have you no shame?

    Get it right.

    “The real Boston Tea Party was a protest against huge corporate tax cuts for the British East India Company, the largest trans-national corporation then in existence. This corporate tax cut threatened to decimate small Colonial businesses by helping the BEIC pull a Wal-Mart against small entrepreneurial tea shops, and individuals began a revolt that kicked-off a series of events that ended in the creation of The United States of America.”

  • BrotherPatriot

    I read the article and now post w/out reading the comments above…(my disclaimer). I’m sure I’ll enjoy the comments once I get there…just wanted to post my own fresh view first…since I feel so passionate about the topic that this article is about.

    It was fun to read, Mr. Livingston! I enjoyed your subtle hints about “the great unwashed” and “common sense”…the very things that some of the more boisterous of us have been screaming about on other various articles. Me thinks you have been doin alittle diggin on your own recently…hmmm? :D Great to know you are aware.

    Yes, a simple return to some common sense would be a great healthy shot in the arm for America. This will happen as we begin to get out of our lethargic past passiveness and step up to the plate and vote. I have to admit…I haven’t voted in some of the past elections and issues. Thinking that it didn’t really matter and that Right would be done by those elected…my GOD how wrong I was in my ignorant youth! Now, as we replace the encumbants with true Patriots of the Constitution, perhaps we’ll start seeing the change that we all have always hoped for America. (Oh…and seriously consider not using a absentee ballot…been hearing that many aren’t tabulated…along with many of our military’s vote as well.) ..<

    • fastwalker

      true patriots…lol. Come on man they’re the same idiots we just voted out of office. Why? because we wanted “change” and so we got somebody who isn’t even a citizen, now there’s a change for ya, and before you Obamite morons jump my ass prove he’s a citizen and I’ll eat crow. We need to educate ourselves and hold our feet to the fire they aren’t gonna tell you their gonna rob you blind. oh and how’s that change working for you?

  • eddie47d

    It’s rather funny that Republicans support a measure in full or even write a bill themselves. Then turn around and vote against it for it might make the other side look good. What vanity and foolishness which equals gridlock. They need to get over themselves!

    • Denniso

      The modern Repubs are only interested in playing politics w/ everything,the country be damned. Their sole goal is to regain power at any cost to the health of the country.

      • a progressive nightmare

        I’m sure you and the educated self-proclaimed progressive elites in Washington can fix it. Since 2007 you idiots have added 5 TRILLION to our national debt and continue to spend our grandchildrens money like a drunken sailor. It’s the spending STUPID!

        • eddie47d

          It’s the Corporate elites who are like bank robbers who can never seem to stop stuffing their pockets with more loot. It’s also this stealing that is leaving our grandchildren vulnerable.

        • Denniso

          Dear progressive moron…why didn’t you fools scream and threaten violence when Bush doubled the national debt in his 8 yrs after being handed a surplus by Clinton?

  • fastwalker

    A quick point to make here…it seems we all are being distracted from the real objective here. Remember back when Bush was doing all this crap (patriot act, 911 and many more)and everyone was freaking out talking about how bad his policies are or what an idiot he is. Well they gave us something worse to make us want to go back and finish what Bush started….Well it sucked then didn’t it? The elites play this game quite a bit and it usually works. There is a global agenda in full swing and they don’t care about who we vote for its all for our own entertainment. In the mean time the IRS is sucking money out of your pockets faster than exlax cleans your….well you know. The federal reserve, who is the true culprit here, is making money faster than the IRS can tax it and still we don’t seem to catch on. WAKE UP…its a frickin game to these idiots they don’t care about borders or flags they want the world. If we don’t stop the IRS from taxing people on their labor for which their is NO LAW…,look it up and if you can show where it says we are to be taxed on our labor then I’ll pay your tax bill for you…and I mean it, what does voluntary compliance mean to you. If we don’t fight back then all this “distraction” would have worked again. Health care, even the idiot left isn’t buying that one. Sorry staring to get a little frustrated. Anyway my point is that we need to deal with the real issues that plague this great nation. Lets stop falling for the contrived BS these morons come up with. END THE FED and flush the IRS and then maybe we can stop the bleeding. OK you can go back to your football game now….oh sh** out of beer again.

  • Eric Bischoff

    Sometimes I smoke too much and let my mind wonder on possibilities and I come up with these silly daydreams. Her’s one.

    Come on you chicken shit millionaires and billionaires you’ve had the tax breaks for quite a while now so hire more people, pay the ones you already have more money and then sit back and watch the economy recover as they start consuming and increasing the tax revenues. What is your excuse?

    What have you got to lose, a few overly expensive lunches, delaying a vacation to Europe, keeping your fairly new car an extra year, cutting down on expensive wines, missing a transfer of money to your swiss bank account?

    The Europeans sure know how to get attention, they go on general strike. So come on you american consumers put all the big banks on notice. Let’s have a general strike against them. Let’s hold off ALL payments and demand that the banks start lending to businesses and homeowners from that trillion we gave them and stop uneccessary foreclosures.

    Let’s have a strike against credit card companies and demand that they lower interest rates and cut back onexhorbitant fees. They are robbing us too.

    Let’s have a strike against big box stores. Stop all purchases for a month on all made in China products and tell them why you aren’t shopping. Made in America puts us back to work.

    Let’s have a general boycott against fast foods and overly processed foods. Live better on fresh fruits and vegetables and whole grains and drink water. You’ll save money, lose weight, feel better. Then tell that industry why their numbers are down and tell them what we want.

    It’s not rocket science, it’s merely the opposite of the failed trickle down bull shit you really don’t believe anyway.

    There obviously is a problem in this country or we wouldn’t be seeing so many viagra commercials, but have some balls already it’s not just the ladies that have menopause, men also have a loss of libido and it is definitely affecting their courage in business. Go get some hormone therapy and start hiring and paying better wages.

    Capitalism and the free market is not the best system in the world and that is why we are in trouble financially again. Mergers and acquisitions only add debt and create unemployment.

    Remember Small is beautiful? Look at the Mondragon model That’s what we need, small cooperative corporations that focus on the community, full employment and a living wage. That creates healthy consumers.

    Inequality in compensation has gone through the roof and that has always been the primary reason for all rebelions and or crashes. Is that what you want, a rebelion?

    If we are going to be a consumer driven economy, you all better insure that the consumers have enough money to spend. Start sharing your wealth.

    Consumer Power

    • Denniso

      Good!!

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      Sounds to me like we get a few more Eric Bischoffs in office and we’ll see laws with jail time for employers and others who don’t conform to Progressive views. They don’t understand business, but of course demand how businesses should spend their money

      Let’s be honest about it — the FUNDAMENTAL difference between a Progressive and a Conservative is that Progressives HATE their country. And to inspire them, we have a President, who along with his wife, clearly has a low opinion of the America they succeeded in. The Progressive comments on this site continually express contempt for America.

      Bob L. — How about an article/thread on why Progressives hate their country?

      • a progressive nightmare

        Allan…. Beautimus! Well said and I also think we do need a discussion thread on the “Progressive Hate” of America.

      • Eric Bischoff

        I don’t expect you to understand me just yet, But know this.

        Conservatives seem to have this delusion that they are the only ones who love America. What they are missing is that progressives love America so much that they are willing to endure all of the abuse. They are willing to get the billy club at demonstrations to fight against injustices and that’s because they also hold in their heart a vision of what America could be and that’s always worth fighting for.

        The very idea of America was a progressive cause. We should never forget that progressives have fought many battles for all of us. Unless of course you don’t think that the right to vote for women or civil rights or the 40 hour work week or child labor laws or protecting the environment for future generations or clean air and clean water or many other progressive causes matter.

        Yes it’s true we are fundamentally different. Conservatives like to hold things back or take back or go back. We are wired to go forward and fix what is wrong and we are not afraid of trying new things. If we could ever put aside our differences and learn to at least tolerate each other, I know that we could go so much faster at making America a greater place. And boy is that ever needed right now.

        You see I don’t want to go back or take America back to anywhere it’s already been. We’ve made plenty of mistakes and hopefully we have learned from them. I want America to be better than it’s ever been.

        I know there are conservative values that we should hold on to forever but conservatives don’t seem to have any tolerance for progress or the very existence of progressive people. Love is the answer. There is way too much hate on this site and on this planet. If your life depended on it, would you put your ideas on the line? Are you so sure that only your ideas and values are right?

        I have news for you, conservatives and center populist have always governed while progressives have always been a small minority constantly pulling at the edges always trying to, win a little more humanity, stop yet another war and always reminding us to always leave this place better than we found it.

        These are not things we should ever have to apologize for.

        United we will stand but divided we will continue to fall.

      • Denniso

        Allan, what liberals/progressives ‘hate’ is what you people in your ignorance,greed and selfishness have done to OUR country.

      • eyeswideopen

        Allan, what progressives hate is people like you who think that they own this country!!! Since you are only 28% of the registered voters in this country, you don’t even have enough people to help win a war, and certainly not enough to pay taxes for the services that you use and demand. Oh, that’s right not a conservative in this country collects disability payments, medicare benefits, social security, food stamps, unemployment checks or gets any help from any government agency….forgive me, I forgot that those republican states don’t get any earmarks, or government services. If you get the services, you can’t bitch about it….that is called hypocrisy. Next time a natural disaster strikes your state, don’t call on that progressive federal government for help….call Alaska, they get back $5.76 for every dollar they send to FEDS. Talk about socialism, they reeek of it. Probably your state does too……

        • Denniso

          Allan says the prez and wife have a low opinion of the country…after 8yrs of Cheny in control and making one mess after another and screwing up almost everything he touched,not to mention killing a couple hundred thousand Iraqi civilians,the entire world had a very low opinion of us…no surprise,with the vile crook and his puppet prez on a leash.

  • Donald Mc Guigan

    More years ago than I care to think about came to mind. A factory close to where I was living on the east coast. They went on strike for a big amount to them $.25 per hour. Sounds great doesn’t ??? I put 20 of the people to work in const. They were as happy as though they had their right minds. This job lasted the entire summer. The union settled for a whopping get this $.05 per hour great is it not???? This is our Government doing the same thing done almost 40 years ago. Feed you a great plan and after they got the Country behind them the plug is pulled OH WELL. Please America wake up NO ONE IN POLITICS IS YOUR FRIEND. Do not go to SLEEP AGAIN AMERICA WATCH THESE PEOPLE AS CLOSE AS IF YOU ARE IN THE SAME SEAT WITH THEM.

  • ’53 Korean Vet

    From what I see on these postings–it’s not hard to know who’s working
    for who–some are probably getting paid-! Eric Bischoff, Rich Novak, &
    Swinney–are all “Birds of the same Feather”, talking ‘Non-Sense’ of a “Socialism Brand-Name”for Obama’s “Invisible Kingdom of Suckers”-!
    “Ameican Veteran” shows his disrespect of ‘American’–don’t seem to
    be a point of his being a Veteran-! Since he doesn’t know that it’s
    President Clinton & Congress in 1998–that “Declared War on Saddam Hussein-!” To see that he lied–you see the proof in “Congressional
    Records” of Dec, under the urging of a Democratic Congress-! Bush was a Governor of Texas, not in Washington D.C.! “Ameican Veteran”, how
    about some Truth, instead of a Socialist Lie for a change-! It’s a
    old soviet-trick, where they called soviet citizens–trained apes-!
    The 1930′s soviet-primer of Brain-Washing was found to be effective
    for many in America! On your P.C. type-in http://www.whale/to/b/soviet.htm
    And read “Editorial Note”, next,read “Address by Levrent Beria” and
    then Click on Chapter XIV “The Smashing of Religious Groups”-(Isn’t
    that what’s happening today-?) A quote-”We have battled in America
    since the centurys turn to bring to nothing any & all Christian
    influence & we are Succeeding!”
    Caliber45 & Palin12–Both of you are on the Right-Track of the Real Truth, so don’t give up, instead rejoice that the real facts are coming out! Cheers, I had 3 ancestors aboard the Mayflower, they made it “Without any Mickey-Mouse Watches-!” And so, can WE-!

    • Eric Bischoff

      Sorry Korean Vet but it’s time for you to get deprogrammed. I am not working for anyone. I got interested in Bob’s site primarily because of his health information. But once I got here how could I refuse a good debate. I am not ashamed of my ideas and I think I am very good at research and digging deep and connecting the dots. I have been accused of always looking down the road too far. I can’t help it. I wish I had a dollar for every time some one came back to me a few years later and said. You know I remember you telling me about this and I just couldn’t believe it. But guess what you were right. It’s a curse.

      I will never stand down when faced with propaganda and lies lazily accepted as gospel.

      • HangmansKnot

        Ruminate on this awhile and tell me how I am wrong. In a fiat currency nation, the currency is a confidence game. Yes or no. Not just in country but world wide ( for the larger nations ). Yes or no. As government and our financial world of fractional reserve banking, concentration of capital on Wall Street, wild investment in mortages and associated products have turned the funding of the government and the money of the people into a gambling house, can we do away with taxes and just print money as needed for worthy causes. Yes or no. A reserved maybe is ok too.

        I think that the cycle of money and risk that allowed high paid workers to gamble on the long term intentions and abilities of lower paid workers to buy a home on term credit vechicles is fascinating. What were they thinking? 600k for a 2000 sq foot home. Where are the legs for that. All the cylinders had to keep on hitting for that to function long term. And, they are right back in there again. Is this odd? Yes or no.

        Of late, there has been more deflation than inflation even with the government make spending projects. Yes or no.

        The deflation will end when the housing market clears. Yes or no.

        The deflation will end when people are no longer afraid of waking up one morning to the specter of being broke and having to return a ten year old to breast feeding. Yes or no.

        Inflation is the destroyer of the elderly’s hopes of a comfortable retirement. Yes or no.

        Government should govern based on the middle. Not the middle as in left or right or mainstream or fringe but the middle as in the most pressing problem that may actually happen, the middle of the statistical curve, except for the odd distributions that are skewed from the typical bell curve. Yes or no.

        Should the Republicans regain the US House, will President Obama let their programs pass as the “voice of the people” without use of the veto. Yes or no.

        If you have the time or inclination, please give your thoughts.

  • Bob Wire

    Well, there many of us combat vets that have moved on. Knowing we had the privilege of serving and remembering.

    But we hold no special citizenship privileges or more rights then the men that humbly served before us or even the ones that didn’t.

    My pride and honor I wear inside and it’s for me. We get one day a year in remembrance and honored by all. That’s more then I ask for.

    Old war horses are a breed unto themselves, I’d like to leave it there.

  • jopa

    53 Korean Vet; My oldest brother that just turned 80 and is receiving disabiliity benefits and social security.It doesn’t amount to much but if the republicans take over he will even lose that.They also want to get rid of medicare and turn all the social security funding over to Wall Street.A three trillion dollar bonus for Wall Street.If Bush had his way with social security todays benefactors would be receiving half of what they get now.Be very careful for whom you cast your ballot.

  • jopa

    PS: Korea is where he was shot up and the reason for the disability payments.

  • robert

    In Switzerland, the government is known as the government in recess.

  • hundabuxt

    Bob Wire

    Well said brother. Those of us who served during the Viet Nam era suffered at home as well as in country. The ticker tape parades did not materialize for us unless you consider spitting and accusations in place of the ticker tape and the first time someone told me “thank you” for my service was 29 years after the fact, unlike today where returning servicemen or any uniformed individuals are treated respectfully. Those of us who put on a uniform in service to our country share a unique bond and honor. I like what you said Bob and it sums up the experience and reward no body else could fathom.

    • keeper

      Bob
      My two brothers served in the Viet Nam war, I want to tell you It was wrong what some people did to all of you when you returned.. My two brothers are gone now but shared many stories and Pictures with me, some were so horrific I could see why it affected many men. Some were of honor of heroism that helped each other move forward to achieve there jobs. I saw first hand what that experience did to there health and minds over the years. I am so glad your here with us. I support all you had to do for this country as well God bless you. I do want you to know that not all people were against you, only the ignorance of Hollywood, and the media causing only the dumbest of people to follow the leader..

  • keeper

    Its funny how all these Dems are now coming out of there holes to
    criticizing obama for all he has done to destroy this country,
    They refuse to understand that they had a hand in this destruction as well.
    without there help obama and his thugs could not have gotten this far, they could have pulled the plug on his dirty deeds but they chose to be apart of his destruction teem…Well its time for them to reap the American wrath…Agreed.
    These dems signed documents sealing our fate with out reading
    ( unbelievable ignorance).. without hearing our voice which was loud and clear.. ( we can not trust these people)..period…
    Did they asked any question as to what is this guy up to?? They did not care because they are part of this power grab….
    This is the kind of nuts we don’t need over seeing this country…
    Do you really think these asses finely woke up to seeing the devastation to this country done so far, or is this the other plan to change strategy, to suck some of us in to thinking they will do us good now because they now see what we see.
    These kind of people do not change there spots this far in their game.
    There is a lot at stake now..do not fall for this. do not reelect any of them so they can continue there dirty work of enslaving the American people and stealing from our children there GOD given rights, there freedom to govern themselves and there reason for the future generation..
    They can not be trusted they are the enemy of what we stand for.. Lets see how they vote down the road for there brothers and sisters of crime..
    Let them prove themselves they have become worthy of our respect and to where they stand.. Is it with The American People or is it with the territories of our enemies of other countries.
    God Bless America and its People…

  • Palin12

    Sharron Angle has increased her lead over Dirty Harry again this morning! It went up last week when Obummer came to town to campaign for Reid, and now it’s gone up even more. Michelle Obama is coming to town on Saturday for one last shot at saving Reid. I smell victory in the air! I’d love to write Reid’s concession speech…something like this: “I just got off the phone with Senator-elect Angle, and congratulated her on a well run campaign. Now I’d just like to say it has been a pleasure serving as your Senate Majority Leader the past 6 years. Uh, let me find my notes here…lots of paperwork here. I also enjoyed working with president Obama because he does not speak with a Negro accent unless he wants to. I am looking forward to retiring in Searchlight, Nevada where I won’t have to smell the tourists in Washington anymore. I’m Harry Reid, and I approved this message.”

    • Warrior

      fingers crossed!

      • Denniso

        Harry Reid is not very charismatic,but Sharon Angle is a fool and rightwing nut w/ no brains to boot.

        • Palin12

          Denniso
          Did you enjoy the concession speech I wrote for Hairy Reed?

          • Denniso

            A bet…Reid wins,we never hear of Angle again,or O’Donnell either. The House goes to the Refubs,the Senate stays Dem. The Refubs will have to actually do something,rather than just bitching and whining,and Obama will have a better 2nd half and be back in 2012.

          • Palin12

            It’s been a barrel of laughs watching Dirty Harry blow $25 million of union member’s dues on attack ads that won’t do him any good. When I see his ads on TV I get up for a potty break. Speaking of unions, normal people built the Ark. Union people built the Titanic.

          • Denniso

            Ark? Are you talking about a Disney movie? Are you a child w/ no education at all? Did the ‘ark’ actually fit 2 of all the animals on earth and all the feed for them and the insane humans inside?
            I don’t believe there were any labor unions when the Titanic was built,and it wasn’t an issue w/ construction as much as navigation and human arrogance…not enough life boats,etc…

          • Palin12

            Denniso
            It was indeed a construction defect, in addition to the factors you mention. The watertight bulkheads were not built high enough (to the upper decks) to keep the water from spilling over from one section of the ship to the other. I thought everyone knew that, even a highly educated Ivy-League pseudo-intellectual like yourself. Six more days till we take out the trash and then you can kiss amnesty and cap and tax goodbye.

          • denniso

            I have better things,and more important things to do than care about how the Titanic was built. It was probably standard construction at the time and thought to be the best there was. My main challenge to you was on the union aspect…you trashing unions in the same breath and trying to lay blame for the sinking on unions,which,I don’t believe, existed when it was built.You make a dumb statement like that,then you should back it up w/ research on the topic, or shut up.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    Anybody see where already, people are finding that Harry Reid’s name is checked off before they go to vote. They are being told that the screen is sensitive, yet its happened over and over. Never trust a democrat in the polling booths. They set the bar very high when dead people got Kennedy elected, and they havent looked bad. Bunch of cheating heathen misfits.

    • Palin12

      Beberoni
      I live in Nevada and am well aware of this problem. They’ve been talking about it on local talk radio. The deputy registrar of voters was on yesterday and was saying a voter could accidentally brush his or her sample ballot against the screen and it could mark a vote. When you first open your screen upon entering the voter booth, the first screen that comes up is for US Senator.

  • Wayne

    In case some of you folks missed what Kate8 was referring to about, check out his youtube website: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kcuM0wPBPg

    • Palin12

      Good one Kate and Wayne. I needed a good laugh today and you provided it.

  • TRUE PATRIOT

    When are you people ever going to wake up? Presidents and government officials aren’t elected in this country anymore they are all pre-Selected and rammed down our throats! What we have today is a Corpatocracy masquerading as a Democracy! Do you really think that the Puppet Masters of this country are really going to let the sheeple decide who is in it’s puppet seat? Educate yourselves on who the people are on the IMF, CFR, TLC, Fed. Reserve and Builderberg’s rosters and you will quickly see who is in control! I’ll bet most of you didn’t even know that Obama was a member of the CFR! Or that one of his confidants is none other than Henry Kissinger! Another word that describes the system of government here in the US is Facism! Washington is nothing more than a private club that you have to receive an invitation to in order to join! Red, Blue, Left, Right, Liberal, Conservative these are all devisive terms manufactured by the NWO to keep us divided and unfocused on their mission! The Dollar, Constitution and National Sovereignty must all be destroyed in order to usher in the New World agenda. Everyone should also Google: North American Union (NAU) start educating yourselves on what is going on right in front of you. You have the ability to educate yourselves right at your fingertips so do it!

    • Denniso

      Our country has become too much like a police state,and we can thank the Refubs for that. Under Cheny,the rightwing went along lovingly w/ illegal phone taps on citizens in the country…they seemed to love giving Cheny the right to force a public library to hand over lists of books checked out by a citizen…they though nothing of Cheny using 9/11 as a reason to whip up hate and fear at Saddam and then launch an illegal,preemptive invasion that has killed more than 4500 of our young people,maimed 80,000 and killed a couple hundred thousand
      innocent Iraqi civilians.
      If the rightwing ‘moralists’ weren’t behind the ridiculous drug war started by another rightwing president,Nixon the felon,we could move to a better and more effective way to handle the drug problem. If the rightwing ever get their way,they will criminalize what a woman may decide to do w/ her own pregnancy,locking up doctors and women both..
      talk about Fascism!!!

  • Randy

    Folks, here is the political climate in a “Hunting Season” nutshell:

    1. We are currently in Donkey season. There is no bag limit though the season ends November 2nd. (Make sure you bag as many donkeys as you can in the remaining days!)

    2. RINO season opens November 3rd. There is no bag limit and ends, depending upon the state, in spring and summer of 2011.

    I expect that on the eve of RINO season, the Ruling Class Republican Leadership will smugly pat themselves on the back as they stroll along, whistling past the recently expanded Donkey Graveyard, not knowing that a vast new RINO Graveyard is being constructed right around the next bend.

    Happy Hunting!

  • Snitch-in-Time

    Maureen Dowd is an dullard living in an inverted reality. The truth is we are in the era of Commie-Lib Mean Girls who spray paint the lockers of honor students, sleep around like ally cats, murder the offspring of their fornication, skip classes to smoke dope, and spread vicious lies about those who won’t ratify their depravity. We all knew girls like this back in high school. It is not surprising that many went on to become liberal journalists and Democrat operatives.

    • Denniso

      And Palin’s daughter is one of those sleeping around? A good,christian,conservative girl doing that? Pregnant out of wedlock??
      Oh my God, the shame of it all…

      • Wayne

        Denniso, that is not near as bad as Bill Clinton, beng married, and having a young girl under his desk. I am sure you know the rest of the story.

        • denniso

          Wayne…do you know the difference between being of legal age and not? Lewinsky was over 21…that makes the affair an issue between he and his wife. Was it stupid of him? Yes. Was Bristol Palin under age and unmarried? Yes. Do the hypocritical ‘conservatives’ decry that sort of behavior in others? Yes. Did they denounce her or her mother for that behavior? NO…

          • Palin12

            Poor denniso
            Your frustration is showing. Hope to see you here next week after the elections are over. For starts, you can kiss pelosi and her $100,000 taxpayer paid bar tab goodbye, and after that you can forget about amnesty and cap-and-tax. Happy days are here again, its another bad day for the dumbocrats, la la la la la la la.

          • eyeswideopen

            Palin12, you watch too much Fox. Read this and then consider how often you are mis-stating the facts when you quote that faux news organization. Must be sad to be a minion marching to the beat of the uninformed. http:www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/sep/21/michele-bachmann/michele-bachmann-accuses-nancy-pelosi-spending-100/

          • eyeswideopen
          • eyeswideopen

            denniso, no, heaven forbid!!!. They reward the young lady who had unprotected sex, got pregant and then wants to tell others, not to have sex. Only in America can you do the wrong thing and profit from it. Look at her mother, quits her job half way thru and becomes a millionaire!!! Now if it had been a liberals daughter, the screaming would still be giving you an earache. How many unwed pregant teenagers have contracts of 300k, asking them to be a spokesperson against sex?? OXIE Moron?? Hypocritics, everyone of them.

          • Denniso

            Palin12…why don’t you try to defend the Palin daughter and the hypocrisy of the rightwing in the issue?

            You know eyes,I still find it amazing how simple minded and hypocrital these people are. I predict the Dems lose the house in a close contest,but hold onto the Senate. The Refubs will then be forced to actually work at governing w/ the Dems and Obama will have a better 2nd 2 yrs and be reelected in ’12.

          • Wayne

            Oh! so your say just because she was over 21 this makes it ok for a sitting president to act in this manner. This may be fine for you, but I believe that most decent people would have to disagree with you. What if this girl had been a spy for another country and she would force the president to give up some of our secrets to another country. Do you have any doubts that President Clinton would have said ok. I think he would have in order to save his marriage. You have to look at all angles before you make a statement.

          • Palin12

            denniso
            The 2010 election is not about Sarah Palin; that will have to wait until 2012. This election is more about Harry Reid, who is about to be Daschled. It is also about a nationwide repudiation of socialism. Obummer is about to rendered impotent. No amnesty, no cap and tax, and no union card check (forced unionism). Hey but just to keep you progressives happy I voted for a democrat for county treasurer (I’ve met her, she does a good job, and she’s a very nice lady with an open-door policy to the taxpayers.)

      • Wayne

        Denniso, you should not hold what Sara Palin’s daughter did against Sara Palin. Everyone has a mind of thier own. A lot of young kids make mistakes. If any member of your family made a mistake, would you want everyone to blame you? I don’t think so and neither do I. Let’s leave the family members out of it.

        • denniso

          You didn’t follow what I’m saying…the rightwing blames parents as well as the kids for mistakes like Palin’s and they usually attack liberals for not being tough enough on kids or parents of kids in trouble. The rightwing is hypocritical for not going after Palin or her daughter,only because they are Repubs. We liberals understand that things like this happen,though it’s not good,and try to be supportive and helpful anyway. If Palin’s daughter was a Dem,the right would have blasted her and pilloried her mother for bad parenting. Instead, they celebrated her being pregnant out of marriage.

          • HangmansKnot

            Its ccooollldd in Alaska. Conserving body heat to stay alive can lead to little mistakes. In Washington, the hot air from the government moderates temperatures. Monica and Bill had no reason to huddle up. The revealing attire must have got him feeling like an Arkansas stud razorback. At least it was a she. I hear the President may be a touch light on his feet in the shower at the gym. And many a page boy has been chased by a “distingished member” of Capital Hill.

      • Wayne

        Denniso, what goes around comes around, so be very careful. Remember, were are all human first.

  • Palin12

    eyes
    haven’t seen you here in a long time….are you gonna be here next week for the party? FYI, as I’ve mentioned here before, I turned off broadcast TV about 6 months ago, except for sports, especially playoffs…and I did watch the Angle-Reid debate. So I don’t watch FOX anymore than CBS, NBC, or ABC. I mostly watch DVDs these days as I don’t like wasting my time on ads of any sort or political attack ads. I read about Pelosi’s bar tab on many sites on the internet. I believe all these politicians need to pay for their expenses out of their salaries, not having expense accounts billed to the taxpayer. This goes for both parties. It’s a waste of money that we cannot afford. The same with Michelle Obama’s 21 personal assistants, when Laura Bush had just 1.

    • eyeswideopen

      Palin, if you don’t watch Fox, where did you get the wrong info on the bar tab?? BUSTED!!! Only Fox carried the lie, rest of the facts were carried by real news stations and newspapers. I hope the Dem’s loose both houses. I can’t wait to see how the repubs will try and fix their own mess. Since they are such deficit hawks, they should be repealing the tax cuts for the rich…..but following their usual hypocritical lying ways means that they will put the country deeper in the ditch. Enjoy what is left of this country. In ten years we will be a third world country and history will show exactly who is responsible.

      • Wayne

        eyeswideopen, you had better be thankful for the rich man as a poor man has never given you a job. I heard on the news last night that a total of 45,400 manufacturing jobs have left American and gone to China, or Mexico since 2001. I wonder why? Is it because our government is not favorable to our companies, or is it that the unions are driving them out of the country. NObama should have been finding out what made the companies leave the last 2 years instead of pursuing and shoving the health care down our throats the majority of the folks did not want!!!! Now he is back begging for a vote on the very people who shoved this health care down our thoat. We don’t need people like NObama as our president. We can do without him and his Zombies who helped him.

        • denniso

          Rich people don’t provide jobs,it’s consumption and spending by ALL Americans,rich and lower income,that creates jobs. Employers just fill the demand for products demanded by consumption. Lower income and poor people spend money and buy products just like you do,only fewer of them.

          You repeat the mindless mantra that is a cliche of the rightwing spin machine. Think about it a little. Every consummer is partly responsible for job creation.

        • eyeswideopen

          Wayne, do you know what the Chamber of Commerce does? They are partly responsible for the jobs leaving America…Do yourself a favor and read some history…..look at how many jobs were shipped overseas during 2000-2008, then don’t embarrass yourself anymore by trying to blame Obama. You said since 2001, doesn’t that dawn on you that was years before Obama?? Babe, you need to understand that the Republicans aren’t investing in America and the wealthy don’t pay taxes. Offshore accounts are depriving us of taxes that are due this country. You think the rich provide jobs??? LMAO, 64% of business are small business, 11% is government jobs (includes local and state) that leaves a paltry 25% that is supposedly created by the rich. Obviously they aren’t investing that huge wealth in America.

      • Palin12
        • eyeswideopen

          Palin, what no comment on Laura having 18 assistants??? That was another Fox lie.

    • eyeswideopen

      Palin, you make it too easy to show how wrong and biased you radicals are. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/michelle-obamas-staff/

      Laura had over 18.

  • charles

    To everyone who posts here and elsewhere, be sure to thank those who ‘put on the uniform, stood watch so that you can express your opinions.’We have learned little since the Vietnam days in that a war cannot be sucessfully run from the Whitehouse / D.C. with outrageous ‘Rules of Engagement’ . Give the Military a mission and let them do what they have been trained to do, Win.
    I have nothing but admiration for those who serve in today’s military. I experience first hand what it meant to serve and be called baby killer spat upon for serving . For those of you who disagree you most certainly have that right.
    I would suggest however that ‘ You pickup a weapon, stand a post.to have some basic idea that Freedom is not free.
    Vietnam Veteran US Army
    and proud of it!

    • Denniso

      You might also thank the millions of taxpayers who pay in to the gov’t and support the soldiers and military. Most people don’t like to pay tax and it represents people’s hard work w/o which there would be no military.

  • Stunned Libertarian

    My name says it all.
    I’m stunned that anyone would even THINK of voting for the ONE major party, the Republi-crats. It’s just a game to fool us into thinking there are two parties.
    In a year, we’ll be back to hating the “Republicans” for continuing the rape of the American taxpayer. “It’s all the other guys’ fault.” Same agenda, different suit.

    I’ve been lied to enough.

    Fire them ALL!!!

    Let some new blood into Washington.

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