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Resurgence Of ‘Anti-government Extremism’ Comes Under Increasing Criticism

April 22, 2010 by  

Resurgence of 'anti-government extremism' comes under increasing criticism As America marked the 15th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing on April 19, some organizations have expressed concerns about the rise of rhetoric that can be perceived as anarchist and violent.

One of those organizations was the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a national Muslim civil rights and advocacy group, which called on Americans to challenge the recent resurgence of what it says is the same anti-government extremism that led to the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City masterminded by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols.

"As we commemorate [this] anniversary … we must also recognize that the same anti-government extremism that led to the attack is growing and is unfortunately moving toward the mainstream," said CAIR national executive director Nihad Awad.

He also pointed to the recent attack on the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) facility in Texas, the shooting of guards at the Pentagon and the arrests of anti-government militia members who allegedly planned to kill law enforcement officers to spark an anti-government revolt as examples of this type of danger.

Meanwhile, a report by the Southern Poverty Law Center, titled Rage on the Right, noted that "militias and other organizations that see the federal government as part of a plot to impose ‘one-world government’ on liberty-loving Americans came roaring back after years out of the limelight."

However, those who have spoken against the government say they are concerned about the administration’s growing reach into their lives, which includes higher taxes, healthcare system regulations and attempts to reduce access to guns. ADNFCR-1961-ID-19731717-ADNFCR

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  • Jim H.

    If someone is weak minded enough to allow rhetoric to lead them to do some violent act, if one thing didn’t cause it something else would have. There is such thing as self accountability. To blame a groups rhetoric for YOUR actions is like a burglar blaming the home owner, because if the owner didn’t own such nice stuff, he wouldn’t have HAD to steal it.

    • JeffH

      Jim H., we all must be wary of the “tricks of our enemies”. Deception and lies abound with the left.

      • Doc Sarvis

        They are plentiful across the political spectrum.

        • American liberal

          You rightys hate Taxes?… Good , president Obama gave 98% of working Americans a tax cut….you need to thank him… My stocks are finally showing a profit again…. Thanks Mr. President … Good jobs report today…. This good Economic news is bad news to you Republicans… To bad..

          • James

            Let’s all just be good whackos and drink our Kool Aid between the rollercoaster rides….right?

          • Fredrick R Smith

            You better sell now while you’re ahead. That is if you are. It’s just a matter of time, and not much of that. The ballon is about to break.

          • Jim H.

            Am Lib, Stocks are slightly up in spite, not because of Obama. The job markets looking good? Since when is 10% unemployment good? If a recovering economy is bad news for Republicans, I would sure be happy to get some really bad news. Genuine BAD news.

          • independant thinker

            Lets see, he gave a small tax cut? And you brag about it but ignore the fact he is actually increasing your taxes by added taxes and fees on banks, energy co.s, etc. which will be passed on to you and me the consumer.

          • marvin

            am lib you say he gave a tax break you don,t have a clue you can change the amount of withholding of inc tax to fed on pay check any time you want on your own you can increase or decrease it ever pay day if you want by a % or a dollar amount i have done that as far back as the 60 and 70 an,t nuttin new just to people that can not read or don,t know any better just make for good reading to a liberal

          • denniso

            We have a country saturated w/ guns and almost anyone can but one…we have millions of unbalanced,manipulated,angry men. Then we have people like Limbaugh,Savage,Beck,palin,Bachmann and more calling Obama illegitimate,a communist,socialist,unamerican,dangerous and trying to destroy America.Comments like ‘take them out’,’reload’,’take back our country’ only make things worse. We’ve already had a plane fly into a building and kill a gov’t worker…it’s only a matter of time before there is more killing and sadly many rightwingers are looking foward to it. The blood is on your hands if you support that violent languague.

          • http://comcast crisaf

            I cannot believe you believe that Obama gave you a tax cut. Wait until Bush’s tax cuts go away and you realize that your take home pay is not as much as it was before he became president. You want the government to be your brains and now you make it apparent that you need them to. Your words speak volumes.

          • Dave

            am lib is right. 95% of Americans did get a tax decrease. Changing your exemptions on your paycheck makes less or more come out of your check but you still owe the same at the end of the year. This was a legitimate decrease of your total taxes. Bush’s tak cuts only helped the top brackets and it’s part of what lead to this recession and the deficit you right wingers are all worked up about now that there’s a black democrat in the white house.

          • JC

            Us “righty’s”. Wow you’ve actually learned to speak propoganda and hatred as a “language”.
            Us “Americans” are tired of being taxed out of existence and into submission by an irresponsible group of morons who think they are royalty.
            Guess what! Not for long.

          • spike

            I don’t know what you smoke, but I’d like some of that too. Tax cuts, heh. He lost me when I saw him (not just once) say “we have to spread the wealth around” the Kenyan can pound sand. I can tell you this, I don’t have any stocks. I have a house that I struggle everymonth to hold on to, and I’m not a subprime-O, I’m self employed, and I work hard EVERYDAY. So you liberal moneygrabbing, wealthdistibuting communist supporters can support more government spending, and waste, and abuse of the Federal Judicial system. HAllelujah, holy s**t, where’s the tylenol.

          • John

            Thanks to republicans the two percent of highest wage earners did not have their taxes raised, and due to republican gains are investing that money. That creates jobs. The lies come in by labeling those people as rich. The truly rich people are NOT wage earners, and as such do not pay taxes. Many in government, especially on the Democratic side, fall in that category. The lie is pretending that the tax is on the rich. The tax on the “rich” is just on those being paid salaries. The really rich people have it worked out where they do not pay income tax. If Obama truly taxed the rich, we wouldn’t have a deficit. Mumbo jumbo from the clueless lemmings on the left. Right off the cliffs not knowing they’re killing themselves.

      • ron

        there is no left without the right.

        • JeffH

          and there is no “right” with the left

        • JC

          There is no left without Utopian Socialist Brainwashing.

          • Hugh Jordan

            … and no right wing without selfishness masked as independence and Taliban-like religious conservatism to maintain sad literal interpretations of Biblical myths. Any thinking person knows that there is little conflict between science and the Bible unless one clings to literal lunacy like the kind of creationism perpetuated by that crazy museum in Kentucky that shows animatronic dinosaurs and cave children playing together 5,000 years ago (all science and the measurement of the speed of light proves that the universe is older than that. Why would God measure time in an infinite universe by the rotation of one small planet in a small galaxy among billions?)

            … And the Lord said: “Let there be light.”

            Hello… that is the Big Bang.

            Yes indeed, God created all life on Earth, and evolution was the means by which the Supreme Being did it.

    • Harold Olsen

      Sometimes such excuses actually work. Here in Seattle back in the eighties some guy was arrested for a series of muggings. In court, his defense was that it was the fault of his victims that he robbed them. He stated that, if his victims did not have anything for him to steal from them then he would not have robbed them. The judge bought the defense and set him free, bypassing the jury.

      • s c

        Did that “judge” have to pass a mental competency examination or the righteous wrath of the people?

      • American liberal

        Harold… Sorry… I don’t believe your story…it’s nonsense..

        • marvin

          am lib coming from you any thing you say will not make anyone feel better or belive one way or the other this like a criminal [illegals] DEMANDING we give them amnesty for stealing from the american citizen now you show me the differance even you with your left wing radical veiws have a right to express for the simple reason you i assume you are an american citizen but when you rob steal or break in to someones car home or country then you give up that right to speak and have no right to demand

      • American liberal

        More good news for America… GENERAL MOTORS reports it’s paying back it’s Bailout loan IN FULL WITH INTEREST…..you won’t hear about this on NAZI (fox) News

        • ChuckL

          Sorry AmLib, but your characterizatin of fox News with the NAZI slur fails.
          The reports of Government Motors repaying the loans has already been reported and Fox had it first.

        • James

          I’m hearing the same story…GM has soared with improvements in management, development, and delivery. Problem is that I’m also hearing that they might not be able to meet their UAW fund committments in the near future…of course a new stimulus might correct that little issue.

          • eyeswideopen

            James, try and read or watch something besides FOX, Todays news is that GM has paid off their debt with interest five years early. Darn what a shame, a good government investment. lol

          • Mike In MI

            Hi James,
            Well, well…I know of someone who works for Government Motors for a long time. His opinion is that GM built up debt and did vehicle give aways for years to be in such a negative financial position they had to cry, “Bankrupt”. Then the master conman came along and figured out what they were up to and decided he wanted in on the scam they were preparing. So, he floated them some loans and a whole lot of “help” and leadership in accomplishing their ultimate goal. Trouble was he really had to stay in a neutral position if he could. How would it look to the liberals if they knew he was aiding and abetting in breaking the union? Not Good. But, they did it without selling hardly a car or truck or bus or anything except some defunct subsidiaries and buying their way into Mexico and a few other overseas nations. (And, their still imploring us to, “Buy American” — r-r-ri-i-ight.

            Anyway, what is EWO and Am Glib gong to think about their god decreed leader when they find out he has participated in a

          • Mike In MI

            Hi James,
            Well, well…I know of someone who works for Government Motors for a long time. His opinion is that GM built up debt and did vehicle give aways for years to be in such a negative financial position they had to cry, “Bankrupt”. Then the master conman came along and figured out what they were up to and decided he wanted in on the scam they were perpetrating. So, he floated them some loans and a whole lot of “help” and even suggested leadership in accomplishing their ultimate goal. Trouble was he really had to stay in an outside position. How would it look to liberals if they found out what he was aiding and abetting? Not Good. But, how did GM do it without selling hardly a car or truck or bus or anything except some defunct subsidiaries while buying their way into Mexico and a few other overseas nations. (And, they’re still imploring, “Buy American”? R-r-r-ri-i-ight. Buy Obamican, maybe).

            Anyway, what are EWO and Am Glib going to think about the worshipful master when they find out how he conned them and he’s a “union buster”?

          • JC

            And the majority shareholder of GM is?….the Government!
            So we slide further into fascism and the left applauds like the trained seals they are.

        • http://GOGGLE vaksal

          WHAT A CROCK! AND ALL THE LEFT WING OWNED NEWSPAPERS IN THIS NATION ARE STATING THE THRUTH? GET EYEGLASSES AND YOUR DRIBBLE IS TOTALY SICK.

          • http://comcast crisaf

            For those of you who really think that as Biden says, “GM paid off their whole debt” is a big lie. The Tarp guru was on Fox News last night and when he was asked by Cavuto if they received more Tarp funds to pay off the debt, the Guru said yes. Check it out on Google.

            Well, basically, when GM went into bankruptcy court, the Treasury Department gave them the equivalent of about $30 billion to get through bankruptcy and to survive afterward. What – even with the losses that they encountered in the third quarter, billions, it appears that they have more money on the books, so they were overcapitalized, which is a good situation to have. If somebody gives you too much money, it usually gives you a lot of options with your business.

            Do your really think they are paying the debt off when they receive $30,000,000,000 and are paying back a few billion by comparison. Give me a break. You are part of the reason Obama is the president. You believe everything the dems are telling you even when they are telling you outright lies.

            Read the third paragraph on google when you put GM pays back debt to govt. Read them all and you may get educated about the reality about this administration.

    • Kerry Mercer

      It’s not being weak-minded It is the reality that a once strong nation has been hoodwinked into electing a phony who is destroying freedom with each passing day and spiraling us into communism, concentration camps for American citizens, private government armies to put down the rebellions that would surely come when the commies in D.C. take full control of everybody’s lives. Would you stand there and let these atrocities happen or join patriotic Americans who would fight to the death against such tyranny and to preserve freedom.

    • spike

      Well, Jim, THE GOVERNMENT IS THE BURGLAR, and they HAD to steal our stuff: including, but not LIMITED TO OUR money.! you hit the nail on the head, and Muslims? Muslims will stoop to any level they need to to take the heat off their own a*s in the violence department. Anyone who has any knowledge of the Muslim belief, and it’s backed up in the Qu’ran, is commanded to violence Jihad against non believers (infidel), so the muslims can talk out of all 4 sides of their mouth, and their other mouths, too (their butts), but hopefully someone besides us “militants” will see through them.

  • Jim H.

    JeffH, Vigilance is the price of freedom.

    • JeffH

      Agree

      • Mary

        This was also the annaversary of the deaths at Waco. Not even a moment of silence for these children?

        • TIME

          Mary, How right you are, and WOW, who was that who acted like a the biggest whacko, Oh – yea that was Bill Clinton.

          Mr. peace and love himself, yea the media has an odd way of making everyone look like nut cases, strangly its the media that ends up with eggs – many eggs on their face, as they stir the pot.

          Then toss in the iresponcible statments made by Bill Clinton who the media just could not get enough air time with, just like our new special BarryO, and lets not forget his 35 plus marxist czars who all are making well over $375K per year to get your chins ready for you, but why bother making note of that.

          Yea – everything is just so cool, its almost like the 1960′s but differant in the way that the Tea Party crews are “peacefull” not unlike Dr. King.
          Yet – the real radicals of the 1960′s would have had to bomb something and kill people to make a point, {oh I forgot they are all on BarryO Czar staff now.}

          But watch out for those really crazy TAX Payers who want a responsible government that stops spending money of CRAZY things, like cash for Clunkers, or Feed to snails, Don’t bite sharks, or
          save the rocks from be hard up.

          Or heven forbid they stop fraud in such areas as medOcade, oh that may require some work and them tin foil thinking caps.
          How dumb of me to think elected officials might do some real work. Well its back to their circle jerking so they look like they did something, then be sure to watch MSNBC and CNN and NBC and CBC, ABC, MSN to see the reports on how that all worked out later today at 6PM, now don’t be late.

          • eyeswideopen

            Time, while your holy network, Fox, only covered the protestors, who by the way were protesting on Government park areas, did they honor those who died? MSNBC, did have a 2 hour program on the bombing and we got to hear the radical Timothy McVeigh spin his tale.

          • TIME

            Eyes at half mast,
            You don’t read well do you? Ok – I will try and make this very simple for you, ( I DON’T Watch TV,) Ok can you understand that?

            That implies I don’t watch Fox, or MSNBC, I read the quotes that Politicians make, I look on line to find if they did indeed say the quotes I read.
            Odd – its 100% spot on every time, so who cares what you saw on TV.

            By the way thats all Mr. Glen Beck does, he takes the quotes that your special leaders make then Mr. Glen Beck shows such clips.
            Thus he displays the TRUTH. Deal with it.

            Its obvious that the nut case you noted was unstable, not unlike your self as per your post, that are 99% of the time hate filled nasty Vitirol and display a disgruntled person.
            But why let facts cloud the issue.

            I pray that someday you do get your eyes open wide, it will shock the crap out of you how your have been taken.
            But that would first require that you open your heart, then – open your mind, and then good things happen.

        • Doc Sarvis

          You didn’t take a moment of silence? I’m shocked! Do you need the government to tell you when to take a moment of silence?

  • Harold Olsen

    It’s always the fault of the right when something like the Oklahoma bombing happens. At least, that’s what the left and the lame brained media claim. It was either last year or the year before on the anniversary of the bombing that a show was run on our local Public Access channel. According to this show, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols had absolutely NOTHING to do with the bombing. Guess who they claim was responsible? You guessed it. Bush and Cheney! I understand that McVeigh even confessed to the bombing, citing Waco as his reason for it, but according to this show, he was coerced into confessing, to cover up Bush and Cheney’s involvement.

    • eyeswideopen

      Harold, if you ever watched anything beside Fox, you would have heard in McVeighs own words, 45 hours of him acknowledging and giving facts of how and why he killed all those people. Denial is something that the right wingers are so automatically geared for, it is truly become laughable.

      • marvin

        eyewideopen must be hard to sleep with your eyewideopen maybe if you sleep some you would see that your abc cbs nbc cnn hln nsnbc are as liberal as it get,s do i agree with fox all the time no do i dissagree with the liberal press all the time no but it helps, sometimes to close your eyes and think befor speaking

        • eyeswideopen

          MARVIN, McVeigh was doing the speaking, not the liberals, nor I. When you limit yourself to one station you loose.

      • http://comcast crisaf

        It is interesting to read your rhetoric. You are a true liberal who is willing to let the government run your life. Your eyes may be wide open but they are blind to the truth.

      • JC

        Millions upon MILLIONS of Americans are rightfully angry about an illegal President running our nation into the ground and aree letting it be known. And all you can do is point out one criminal moron and try and paint everyone with the same brush. You are truly small minded and completely blind to the truth.
        The FACT is, this government is going to go down in history as the single worst blunder in the history of the planet.
        They should be tried for treason.

    • JeffH

      I remember seeing something on NG Explorer one night, but I can’t recall seeing any documentaries on FOX about McVeigh.

    • Chaos Factor

      Harold… BS.. You didn’t hear anyone blaming Bush/ Cheney for the Oaklahoma city bombing…. President Clinton was president … Bush hadn’t even picked Cheney as a running mate… Your hysterical and delusional..and typical if the paranoid tea Baggers…

      • Paul

        Of course it had nothing bto do with Janet Rino attacking an killing some 20 children and 40 some adults at Wako Texas two years earlier.yeah Clintstone was the President but we can blame it on NIXON.

        • marvin

          paul don,t forget RUBY RIDGE and what your goverment done beside the waco killings

        • TIME

          Paul, Even better yet lest blame Tojo, he did it!

        • eyeswideopen

          Paul, Karen Doyle age 14, Kiri Jewell age10, Michele Jones age 12 and many others were being forced to have sex with David Koresh. He stated that he was entitled to have 140 wives, 60 Queens and 80 concubines. If you think that an acknowledged pedophile was innocent, then hopefully you don’t have any female children. Violence seemed to run in his family as his sister did kill his mother. Why is it you conservatives want to protect the unborn, but for those innocent children already here, you are just obvious to their needs?

        • JeffH

          [BATF preparing for battle, chanting]
          We’re the government’s Mafia men, enforcers of the autocracy!
          We take great pride in our job, our skills, and our knowledge
          Of how best to create murder, mayhem, and carnage.

          [BATF surrounds the home of the family, as one agent takes aim at the family pet dogs, and shoots.]

          [Gun shots everywhere ring out, the family protects their home and their children, the mighty agents are falling.]

          Fall out! All Agents Come back!
          Disengage the Attack!

          Let’s quit, for God’s sake. For God’s sake, stop the slaughter! Please!

          This isn’t how it was supposed to be! Us, being forced to leave your property!??

          That’s fine… for now, we’ll leave you be… but we will be back… you wait and see.

          There is one other thing, and you really should take our assurance, someone inside Mt. Carmel better buy
          FIRE INSURANCE!

          negotiation transcript of Special Agent Jim Cavanaugh telling Steve Schneider,
          “someone in there should buy some fire insurance.”

          The days of picking flowers and chasing your friends has suddenly come to an end. Your innocence stripped in one careless moment from strangers with guns who came shooting from the sky. You see the grown ups running everywhere… you see your mom, she’s scared and laying on the floor covering the baby. You are scared too. You overhear a grown up say the men outside shot and killed someone…. its hard to hear, the babies are screaming… all your friends are crying. Their moms are trying to tell them its going to be okay, but you see the fear in their faces and you know that means its NOT ok. Terrified you crawl further over and you hear someone say his name. But you are so young, you don’t understand what it all means…. how can grandpa be dead? You had just kissed him good morning before breakfast. This is a nightmare come to life. You look into your moms eyes and ask… why is this happening??? Why are the strangers killing everyone? Why are they telling everyone we are bad people? What did we do mommy… did we do something wrong… was this my fault? Was it Serenity’s fault? Was it….any… of our faults?

          Mommy…….grandpa will never hold me again… will he.
          I’m scared…..

          This is where only your memories live now…. eternally…. for see, those men outside, waited 51 days before releasing an all out assault against your home and your family. You were tortured with gas for hours on end.. tanks ripped apart your world, concrete fell on your mother, your friends, the babies, and their moms…and then you were set on fire.

          The terrifying part is… this is not a “tale”… this is a true story. The people you see, were very very real.
          And they died in a very horrible way.
          Wrongly demonized, and unjustly subjected to cruelties beyond comprehension.
          Sentenced and executed without trial or jury, the cover-up began to make Americans unaware of the atrocities that were committed right before our eyes on prime time TV.
          This church and its families being the test subjects of military and federal and local law enforcement combined, a clear violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.
          Violations of this act is punishable by harsh fines and prison terms.
          It can be authorized by only one person… the President of the United States. Why was the CIA interested in church members from Texas? CIA is forbidden to meddle in domestic issues. Clear cut violations of the law… yet the fight goes on to seal, “classify” and hide the evidence.

          These people were an example.

          We DO NOT torture babies with poisonous gas, to get to their parents!
          The BATF, FBI, and our government, acted as judge, jury, executioner and morticians,
          BEFORE any proof of guilt was established. Then they bulldozed into the flames, evidence of
          THE largest domestic law enforcement tragedy in our countries history!
          Is this how we preserve PRECIOUS evidence of a massacre of innocents!?!?!

          Someone that breaks the law is a criminal. Someone who murders is a murderer.
          Our Constitution guarantees justice for victims… where is the justice for THESE victims?

          All surviving church members were found innocent of murder charges, and a jury ruled
          they were lawfully defending themselves against an unlawful attack where deadly force
          was being used against them.

          The real killers still walk free.

          Janet Reno: “The ghost of Waco will be with me all of my life, I will never forget Waco.”

          My page is dedicated to the people who died, and their memory… to the survivors who endured horrors I cannot imagine, and to the REAL evidence in this case.
          For some reason, no one wants anyone else to hear about it, but gradually… it’s being revealed.
          But also important to note, its a memorial to the scars placed on this great nation by corrupt powers that
          operate and control what we hear, see and think.
          This is dedicated to THOSE people that tear my freedom away day by day and think I don’t notice. I noticed you. Now… watch others notice you too. I hope they all take a pledge to think for themselves, and to seek truth, and not swallow everything you tell us. I refuse to believe everything you say is true. And I refuse to look away anymore.

          • JeffH

            “If you think that an acknowledged pedophile was innocent, then hopefully you don’t have any female children.”

            Nowhere did anyone mention the innocense of a pedophile and yet there are some that refuse to acknowledge that the government’s illegal “massacre” at Mt.Carmel was justifiable “murder”.

          • JeffH

            Dead…wrong.

            If the deaths for these people are ever truly recognized for what they really were… murders, there should be a
            national outcry from Americans. In Ruby Ridge, Idaho (my home state) Randy Weaver lost his wife
            (who at the time she was shot in the head, was holding her infant daughter) and lost his 14yr old son from federal sniper bullets almost a year before the Waco seige happened. Everyone claimed there was nothing afoul. Our government officials were feeding the press and any one that would listen, with garbage of their innocence, while the whole time covering up their negligence. The Waco case was no different. These were the same people running Ruby Ridge as ran WACO!
            (since then, the federal government has been forced to pay Weaver millions of dollars in damages stemming from it’s negligence.)

            http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/waco.html

          • JeffH

            Read the letter of agreement between fired Special Agent Phillip Chojnacki and the Bureau

            United States of America

            Merit System Protection Board

            Phillip J. Chojnacki,

            Appellant

            No.DA-0752-95-126-I-1

            vs

            Department of the Treasury.

            Appellee

            Settlement Agreement

            The parties solely to resolve this matter without further litigation freely and voluntarily enter into the following agreement in settlement of this appeal.
            http://www.wizardsofaz.com/waco/chojn.html

        • http://comcast crisaf

          Paul, I know you mean well but Janet Reno didn’t kill anyone. When you have people who are wacked out do a disastrous thing, it cannot be stopped by anyone. That is why the pervert, Clinton is trying to tie in the Timothy McVeigh bombing to the tea party. He used this same rhetoric to get himself out of “I did not have sex with that woman.”

    • coal miner

      Harold,

      That happen during Clinton’s term in office.Mcveigh was pulled over for a traffic violation,no license plate and later on charged with the Oklahoma bombing.Bush and Cheney wasn’t elected yet.They couldn’t possibly be invovled.

    • ron

      bush and cheney? How could that be unless there was some wrinkle in time/parallel universe thing going on…

      • Save America Susie

        Exactly Right, Ron. People don’t know their history or correct dates if they say Bush & Cheney were to blame; they weren’t even in office for another half decade.

      • James

        It was the beginning of heavily spiked Kool Aid just hitting the market…it was the simplest of times.

    • Kevin

      It’s also the anniversary of Lexington and Concord. That’s when British soldiers moved to seize the gunpowder and arms of voluntary militias, armed citizens defended themselves, firing upon the British in ‘the shot heard ’round the world’.

      We live with the paradox that the same constitutional rights that allow us to protest what we consider to be excesses by the government, also protect the rights of those on the left to call us names and paint us as being “extremists”. I just wish the left would stop rewriting history to support whatever agenda is most popular. By doing so, they endanger the very constitutional rights that protect ALL of us.

      • James

        It’s the LEFT, man…they’re just like the Tazmanian Devil…they just have to keep on spinning.

    • BigBadJohn

      Wow Harold what have you been smoking?

  • s c

    What we are witnessing is the outrage of our government Nero(s). This paranoid mentality can never tolerate dissent. It was so in biblical times, it was so in Nero’s time, it was so in the early part of the 18th century in the US, and so it is with this REGIME.
    We can thank the wacko ‘in charge’ of the Iranian government. He called Obummer’s administration a REGIME. He’s right.
    Our government has much to hide. It is primed to come apart at the seams. Let the government try to justify its rage. Most likely, it will try anything and everything it can to blame its many faults on the American people. King George tried to do it and failed and lost his prize. Will this current ‘King’ be any different?

    • eyeswideopen

      s c speaking out against things you don’t like is always wanted, however using trigger words to incite the less intelligent, to take action, is not what this country is about. WHen you have a Congressman/woman who calls the present government, “gangster government”, that is ridiculous and unless you have forgotten, you are the government. You are looking forward to this country coming apart at the seams, becareful what you wish for, as your guys might not get the power and then what???

      • s c

        Since you are determined to have and keep both feet in your mouth at the same time, I’ll make a short comment, orbs. I am NOT trying to INCITE YOU to do anything. I’m not trying to incite ANYONE to do anything.
        Now, re-read your comment, and try to understand what I said. With a little luck, you might be able to grasp the huge difference between what YOU said and what I mean.
        Kindly patronize someone else. You have much to learn, and little time left to learn it.

      • American Liberal

        Eyes… Exactly … Very good and accurate post..

      • Doc Sarvis

        I concure.

        • s c

          Ye gods, DS! You are SO predictable. Concure? Please, go concure yourself, and get a functional dictionary. Do you make up words as you go merrily along every day?
          You’ll have to be able to READ it (I realize that’s not an ultraliberal progressive specialty, and Queen Nancy Pelosi needs to be taken to task for being such a pathetic role model for you).
          Almost every time you hardcore dingbats open your flapping mouths, you PROVE that public education is an utter FAILURE. When it comes to the world of ideas, it’s the same thing. Hate, lies, deception, useful idiocy, manipulation, incompetence and ego are your gods. You deserve them. We don’t.

          • Doc Sarvis

            I’m so glad I made your day.

      • JC

        Well at least one Congressman has the stones to tell it like it is.
        And using trigger words to incite the less intelligent is the corner stone of the progressive movement, isn’t it?

        • kate8

          JC, that was brilliant. Made my day.

        • Hugh Jordan

          Michelle Bachmann is the type of “thinker” that gives conservatives a bad name. She is as patriotic as Benedict Arnold. She’ll pander to whomever she thinks will give her a vote and the more she stirs things up with her vituperous rhetoric the more passionate her nut-job supporters become.

          Can’t we find conservatives with 3-digit IQs that really want to offer RATIONAL leadership to solve our country’s problems?

          • Claire

            Hugh Jordan–I have to agree with you on this. Also, I have friends in Minnesota (Republicans) and they do not like her. They want her out of office. They call her “Tweedle Dum.” I won’t call her a name, I just don’t care for her. Heck, some of these women on this site would be a better choice for the Presidency or VP than Bachman.

      • TIME

        EYES, If the shoe fits you must state it as so.

        Thus as we do have a “Gangster Government” one must call it what it is. Don’t candy coat the facts with sugar, its still a crap buger.

        • Yankee Will

          He, he, he…hammer Time!

        • eyeswideopen

          OMG, Time, you are right, you are part of the government and you are a gangster. Therefore we have a gangster government made up of RWA’s. Problem with you all buying into the same talking points and radical theories is that if the situation/topic isn’t abortion, guns, or immigrants, you all are lost trying to figure out what to do. The poor Tea Party, can’t come up with a stance on the financial reform bill. They don’t know whether to shit or go blind. WHich way do we go? Which way do we go? I say go ahead and be against the American public, be on the side of WALL STREET GANGSTERS and go down in history as the group who helped put us into another fiscal crisis, which we may not recover from, and then the elitests will be running this country as a totalitarian state. You and your buddies will be serfs. If you think your paltry collection of gold coins will save you, think again, the rich will have their gangsters out in force taking your little stash of gold.

      • James

        A ‘trigger word to incite’ or a buzz word to lull, it makes no difference. Us and Them will always contend…we will always either fail or succeed on any specific day, just to end up on the other end of it the following day. As long as we have a strong Constitution the American heritage (which is dimensioned beyond any single one of us) will endure. All of this is mere bar room talk by people retreating from their pain, drowning their sorrows, and gaining courage from their favorite bottle.

      • Allan

        So our forefathers, who rebelled against an oppressive government, were less intelligent? They certainly were incited. Political correctness means some incitement is more equal than other incitement, such as calling conservatives stupid, evil, and racist. Clearly, the left doesn’t use trigger words at all. Clearly, the Emperor has no ears.

  • JeffH

    s c,

    See who’s adding “jet fuel” to the fire.

    Clinton Chides ‘Right-Wing Media,’ Warns Government ‘Demonization’ Fuels Threats

    Former President Clinton on Sunday broadened his warning that Tea Party protesters could feed violence reminiscent of the Oklahoma City bombing, suggesting “right-wing media” and the blogosphere could be culpable for any future politically fueled extremism as well.

    • s c

      I know, JeffH. Our would-be controllers are in panic mode. They have the most to lose by being exposed for the frauds, liars and two-legged vermin they really are. Let them howl.
      Some day, they will have to admit that wolves, coyotes and drunks do it better.

      • JeffH

        s c, I find it almost amusing, despite the seriousnous of the current situation, that the left, Dems, Obama, liberals are having a difficult time with all of the exposing taking place.
        Cry wolf enough and nobody listens. They’re huddling, impatiently, trying to come up with a strategy to undermine the ridicule and outing that’s taking place. They’ll be back. Just like cockroaches, they always come back.

      • JeffH

        I have also found it amusing how the Tea Party became a bunch of Tim McVeigh wannabes so close to the anniversary of the Oklahoma bombimg.
        It seems someone is trying to play Johnny Appleseed. It ain’t gonna work. Oh, before the libbies start with the Hannity/McVeigh project again, that won’t work either.

        • American liberal

          And as our economy continues to improve you’ll see the desperation on the right increase …. These righwingers do not want this economy to improve… They want America to fail so they can blame president Obama…

          • Doc Sarvis

            Correct. Just ask Rush Limbaugh.

          • ron

            That’s what amazes me…they want the president to fail. THink about that for a moment. I didn’t like bush or agree with anything his admin did but the LAST thing i wanted was him to fail. It’s our frickin country for gods sake and peoples welfare is the issue! When you make a statement like that it shows that you could care less about people. I’ve never understood the narcism of the right wing leaders (i get it but it has no place in the world if you look at things in a broader sense) and their ability to get people to continually vote against their own self interests. Amazing. Its sort of like playing a sport and your teammates undermine your effort so the team will fail so they can prove your point.

          • Kevin

            I don’t know what’s so hard to understand in this, unless you don’t want to understand because it undermines your agenda. They want Obama’s policies to fail, not America. Inn fact, that’s the whole point – if Obama’s policies fail, America survives!

          • JeffH

            “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

          • marvin

            am lib you are a frigen idiot if you think that a true american wants this country to fail because we don,t agree with the king obama and you ,we don,t want the country to fall unlike you we don,t cut off our noes to spite are face obama is not king of this country he is the president and his word is not law and i/we have a god give right to not agree ,even you as far left as you are and the stuped thing you say still has that right

          • Grey Wolf

            Lib: There is no economy left in this country for a recovery. It’s just an illusion. I’ve spent over 40 years of my life studying economics & I can tell you it’s only 2-3 years away from total implosion! You’ll sink with the ship, too. Be prepared & don’t say I didn’t warn you.

          • kate8

            Well, AL, as expected, another twist of the truth by the left spin machine.

            What Rush said, and I wholly agree, is that we want Obama to fail in
            his “fundamentally changing America” to some fascistic dictatorship, in order to SAVE America.

            You people have absolutely no affinity for truth.

          • James

            I just gotta’ get me a pair of those rose colored glasses. Will they make Monopoly money look like the real stuff? Or will they make the real stuff resemble Monoply money?

          • eyeswideopen

            Kevin, forgive me, but if his policies fail, we fail. You obviously don’t grasp the fact that this Nation was on the cliff, due to the immoral business practices of Wall Street and the absoutely wrong decisions made by the previous admin. Hard to trust your groupies, who made billions on the wars and hijacked our Constitution to suit their needs. The greedy just took it to the max and you should remember if this country fails, the money everyone is hoarding will become worthless. So when you pray to God for Obama to fail, you are praying against this country and should be considered a traitor.

          • Claire

            Rush Limbaugh? Egads, I listened to him on my way home at lunchtime this week. He sounds positively possessed. In fact, I am beginning to think he is going off his rocker. This guy has a problem.

        • kate8

          From what I’ve been able to gather, FEMA and all law enforcement (including foreign and domestic military troops) have been gearing up for riot control. Big on the acoustic weapons.

          Now, why would one suppose that is?

          • James

            Oh, all that stuff is going to be moved down to the border with mexico to keep the illegals out OR the libs are going to shoot another B movie.

          • eyeswideopen

            kate8, does the word Katrina mean anything to you? They are predicting a horrible hurricane season and here in America, unlike Hatii we riot, when we don’t have what we want. I was in Homestead during Andrew and had to shoot to protect what was left of my home. Sure was glad when the government rolled into town. Guess they occasionally serve a purpose. They did stop the fighting and organized the food lines to hand out supplies. So, maybe for once we will be prepared. But if you are looking for sinster purposes, maybe they will be used for the Arizona roundup.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            googleeyes,
            YOU had to SHOOT???? YOU??? Does anyone else here find this too hard to believe?? etes who preaches against handguns so much SHOOTING at another person??? How hypocritical of you google!!!

    • Pat R

      Get used to Bill Clinton and his “illustrious” remarks! He is just getting started again. It is his intent to put Hillary in the White House next. Please don’t fall for his tricks; He and Hillary are members of the Democratic Socialists Assn. I feel sure that they both know of Obama’s birth status (illegal) and should be charged for Treason with so many others.

  • American Liberal

    Rightwing hate groups are a threat to this country… Racism is on the rise …I believe that ” big government” excuse is just that” an excuse to hate”..example?.. Look at the new Law in Arizona these rightwingers are in love with.. The new law in Arizona is exactly what they called “tyranny” and ” socialism… It’s bigger government with profiling based on Race… More law enforcement and it’s going to take taxes to pay for it… If our president were a white republican these rightys would call his spending nessessary to stimulate the economy…. If president Obama looked like Ronald Reagan and was a republican these rightwing hate groups would love him….so bigger government and taxes are ok with you rightys as long as it’s oppression of anyone of color or what you concider leftist… This articals author used Islamic groups quote on radical groups just to rile you up… You don’t see that?..

    • EltonJ

      Uhm, no. Big Government is a no-no no matter what the form. The government wasn’t designed to be big, it was designed to be limited. It isn’t about race, it’s about the size of Government. The media and government is playing the race card because they can.

      FDR almost made himself a Dictator, or did you forget?

    • Cribster

      Obama’s mission is to create and expand divisions between races and classes. He is a community aggitator like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and let’s not forget his spiritual mentor of 20 years, reverend Wright. They are all of the same ilk.

      Obama has taken the divisive tactics from the local scale to a national scale. You can see it in how the nation has become more polarized than ever before. There is a palpable belligerence in the black community since the Messiah was elected.

      • Save America Susie

        Yes, I noticed many voted for BO because they saw him as a “Uniter”! But he has proved to be the opposite. We are certainly polarized now!

        • BigBadJohn

          And you thinks statements like “you are either with us or against us” united the country??????

          The country started this major polarization under Clinton. When the republicans could not pin anything on him, they still would not drop investigations, when they STILL could not pin anything on him, the name calling started – Slick Willy…..
          They finally pinned him on a personal issue.

          Ever since then a.) republicans think that kind of tactic works, so pursue it every chance they can. b.) democrats would like a little payback but held back big time against Bush because of 9/11.

          • independant thinker

            Clinton was called slick Willie long before the Republicans started on him.

          • Ted Crawford

            Couldn’t pin anything on him??? The man was IMPEACHED for goodness sakes! Where have you been??

          • BigBadJohn

            Ted impeached after six years and 300 million of you tax dollars trying to pin something on him.

            And the only thing that came of if “I did not have sex with that woman”

          • Claire

            BigBadJohn– You know what sticks in my mind–the fact slick willie was on national TV and lied to all of us. This guy sure has the morals of an alley cat and no conscience. He is one guy I can’t have any use for.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Cribster… Good post… All of these racist comments are crazy! Barry is a mulatto… He is no more black/Muslim than he is white. Race has nothing to do with what is happening to our country.

      • JeffH

        Obama is a disciple of the Marxist teaching radical Saul Alinsky and you’ll always see his brand, Rules for Radicals, on the leftist liberal’s comments.
        To understand what these people say is to understand why they say it…in other word…If one understands where they get their ideas from and one will understand why they talk their jibberish.

        “Radicals must be resilient, adaptable to shifting political circumstances, and sensitive enough to the process of action and reaction to avoid being trapped by their own tactics and forced to travel a road not of their choosing.” p.6

        “A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage — the political paradise of communism.” p.10

        “An organizer working in and for an open society is in an ideological dilemma to begin with, he does not have a fixed truth — truth to him is relative and changing; everything to him is relative and changing…. To the extent that he is free from the shackles of dogma, he can respond to the realities of the widely different situations….”

        Obama was and aways will be an “ORGANIZER”! That is all he knows, nothing else!

        “To the organizer, imagination… is the dynamism that starts and sustains him in his whole life of action as an organizer. It ignites and feeds the force that drives him to organize for change….
        “The organizer knows that the real action is in the reaction of the opposition. To realistically appraise and anticipate the probable reactions of the enemy, he must be able to identify with them, too, in his imagination, and foresee their reactions to his actions….
        “The organizers searching with a free and open mind void of certainty, hating dogma, finds laughter not just a way to maintain his sanity but also a key to understanding life.”pp.74-75

        “…the organizer must be able to split himself into two parts — one part in the arena of action where he polarizes the issue to 100 to nothing, and helps to lead his forces into conflict, while the other part knows that when the time comes for negotiations that it really is only a 10 percent difference.”
        “One of the factors that changes what you can and can’t communicate is relationships. There are sensitive areas that one does not touch until there is a strong personal relationship based on common involvements. Otherwise the other party turns off and literally does not hear….

        “Tactics are those conscious deliberate acts by which human beings live with each other and deal with the world around them. … Here our concern is with the tactic of taking; how the Have-Nots can take power away from the Haves.”
        http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm

      • JeffH

        June 2, 2008
        Obama’s Radical-Left Ties Broad And Deep
        National Review Online: Senator Approves Of The Political-Theological Outlooks Of Michael Pfleger and Jeremiah Wright

        Having now left Trinity United Church of Christ, can Barack Obama escape responsibility for his decades-long ties to Michael Pfleger and Jeremiah Wright? No, he cannot. Obama’s connections to the radical-left politics espoused by Pfleger and Wright are broad and deep. The real reason Obama bound himself to Wright and Pfleger in the first place is that he largely approved of their political-theological outlooks.

        http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/02/opinion/main4145761.shtml

    • Airangel

      Hmmm…let me play devil’s advocate here Am Lib…

      Not only is MSNBC’s and libera leftist’s criticism of conservative activists unbalanced and misguided, it is hypocritical at best!

      Think back to the coverage of Code Pink and the antiwar protests of the Bush administration. None of it’s commentators fretted over whether the protesters would lead to a resurgence of left-wing violence such as that practiced by the Weather Underground, the Blank Panthers, or the Symbionese Liberation Army. That would have been totally inappropriate — but no more so than what it’s eagerly doing now with conservative protesters.

      If MSNBC and others are worried about internal unrest, then it should examine its own practices, which amount to little more than fear-mongering and political posturing. And that won’t make us any safer.

    • JeffH

      Once again using the tactics of Alinsky…

      “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

      • eyeswideopen

        Jeff, you mean like Glenn Beck calling Cindy Stahan a prostitue for protesting against the war? But it is ok, for the tea partiers, to protest against the government for healthcare and they aren’t prostitutes? Double standard for the radical righties. That women had every right to protest, she had just lost a son, to a senseless war.

      • JeffH

        Agitate + Aggravate + Educate + Organize

    • James

      The real problem is ‘that’s all YOU see’…and it is the sum of your own beliefs. You are projecting, not thinking.

    • Allan

      I think you are a plant, doing what Cass Sunstein would ask you to do.

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      HELLO,AMERICAN LIBERAL YOU ARE SUCH A SELECTIVE DISINFORMATION SOURCE ,THAT ALWAYS TALKS ABOUT THE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE AS RACIST AND RADICALS,WELL HERE I GO,( CLINTON)GAVE AWAY AMERICAS ECONOMY WHEN HE SIGNED ( NAFTA ) ITS THAT SIMPLE, AND AS FAR AS THE NEW JOBS AND THE ECONOMY GETTING BETTER,HA WHAT SELLING HAMBURGERS AND THE BIG MONEY MAKER IN THIS NEW LEFT WING ECONOMY CAR WASHING,GO TO PITTSBURG AND SELL THE LINE YOU ARE TELLING IN SOME FORMER STEEL WORKERS BAR, I DONT THINK YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PUNCH YOUR KEYBOARD FOR A LONG LONG TIME,AND NO NOONE HERE WANTS AMERICA TO FAIL ,WE JUST WANT THIS NATION BACK IN THE REAL WORLD NOT THE MAKE BELIEVE WORLD OF ITS ALL OK ITS NOT! THIS NATION IS GOING DOWN DUE TO THE LEFT WING SPIN ARTISTS THAT ARE PUSHING A COMMUNIST AGENDA,THAT HAS WIPED THIS NATIONS JOBS AND CIVIL RIGHTS OUT IN THE PROCESS. I AM GLAD YOU POST BECAUSE YOU ARE A POSTER CHILD OF THE LEFT WING IN THIS NATION.

  • angel-wanna-be

    Well, I wonder if Homeland Security has another Lexicon ready to go to publication about us crazy RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS? Clinton seems to think, that all the dissent will allegedly lead to violence. Almost Sounds as if, ANY violence that does break out, the tea partiers and regular Americans, who are sick of being raped by the Government, are going get the blame for it. Washington is good at masterminding ALL language, sadly some of the sheep, just ain’t getting it!__I’ve never seen a more thin skinned Administration, than this one! They absolutely cannot take ANY opposition!__And if they can’t beat us down into submission with words for it, they’ll regulate free speech with the internet police(correct me if I’m wrong)and tax us to death, just like they’re doing. If they keep the people poor and lacking confidence, Government thinks the people can’t/won’t fight back. WE THE PEOPLE CANNOT FALL FOR THIS CRAP!__We need to stay peaceful and let the Libs drown in there own fluid of lies!

    • JeffH

      New DHS Domestic Terrorism Report Targets Millions of Americans

      Thursday, 16 April 2009 04:15
      On April 7, when President Barack Obama was winding up an overseas tour that included bowing to Saudi King Abdullah and expressing mea culpas for America’s past sins, his Department of Homeland Security (DHS) was unleashing the dogs of war against his political opposition at home: Americans alarmed by his radical policies on gun control, abortion, illegal aliens, nationalizing the economy, and more. A secret 10-page DHS document sent to law-enforcement agencies nationwide is stirring up a political firestorm. Entitled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment,” the DHS report (pdf), dated April 7, sloppily (or cleverly and maliciously) demonizes millions of law-abiding Americans, conflating them with violent, criminal groups such as Neo-Nazis and “white supremacists” simply because they adhere to political beliefs at variance with those of the administration.

      The report employs the word “rightwing” 50 times, and in nearly every instance (47 times) it is in the context of “rightwing extremism,” “rightwing extremist,” “rightwing terrorist,” or “rightwing terrorist and extremist.” Tellingly, the report doesn’t bother to define any of these politically charged terms, a major dereliction of due diligence in such an important matter. It is similarly shoddy in using terms favored by left-wing extremists to describe their opponents on the right, such as “antigovernment,” “hate-oriented,” “paranoid,” “dangerous,” and “violent.”

      Naïve Napolitano: DHS Underestimates Muslim Resistance to Countering Domestic Terrorism
      February 19, 2010 – by Richard Pollock On Wednesday, Pajamas Media reported that U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and her senior staff privately met in Washington, D.C., to begin a controversial information sharing program with Muslim organizations — including three directly linked with the extremist entity the Muslim Brotherhood.

      • JC

        So they’re putting “Americans” on watch lists for being genuine “Americans”. Now THAT’S reminiscent of Hitler’s Gestapo for sure.

  • American Liberal

    Fox news ( entertainment) .. Rush Limbaugh.. Glenn Beck… These are just a few of the rightwing media that spread hate and an Anti American , anti goverment message…pure hate propaganda..they fuel the ignorant allday long with hate and contempt…

    • angel-wanna-be

      AM,
      KEEP DRINKING THAT ELIXER AM, IT’S WORKING, IT’S KEEPING YOU STUPID.

      • Tazio2013

        a-w-b,

        Keep drinking the Fox Noise/Limbaugh, etc Kool-ade; it’s working and keeping you stupid! You are badly in need of an objective socio-politico-economic education so, re-read Bob Livingston’s 03/01/10 “How Does the 1 percent Control the 99 percent?” and, if you can pass the test (doubtful), proceed to The Daily Bell, The Casey Report, LewRockwell.com, NaziSocioPaths.com, and other “Pragmatic Jeffersonian Libertarian” web sites. In addition, get a library card and read a few books other than those written by Beck, Palin and their ilk.

        • kate8

          Taxio, how many books by conservative authors have you read?

          • JeffH

            …is that a trick question?

          • James

            I do believe that Taxio depends heavily on acquiring his BS from as many liberal hack sites as he can visit…why should he ever crack a book?

    • coal miner

      American Liberal,

      Have you heard? General Motors is making a comeback.They are five years ahead of schedule paying their loan.

      • JC

        And the Federal Government is the major shareholder anyway.
        Boycott Government Motors Corp. Boycott fascism.

        • JeffH

          61% I believe and Canada also has a share of the pie. The price of the peoples bailout.

          • Claire

            JeffH–Regardless of what anyone thinks, I will support GM and Ford I will be happy if GM makes a comeback, union or no union. Besides, I like Chevys. But I still want a Hummer.

          • JeffH

            I’ve always driven Chevys and drive a GMC Yukon now. They’ve always been my favorite. My first car was a 55 Chevy and my first “new” car was a 70 Camaro.

          • Claire

            JeffH– Ahh, Chevys. My husband had a silver grey ’59 Chevy Impala when we started dating. Sooo many drag races! Great fun. Flying down the road, geez thank God we didn’t get killed. No one could touch him. He had the fastest “muscle” car. I still have my ’69 Camaro. I’m going to have to give it to my son. He loves the Chevys too.

          • JC

            Sold My Chevy Silverado, Bought an F150. In fact this is my third brand new F150 in 6 years. I support Ford for being responsible.

          • JeffH

            Claire, I’m jealous…69 Camaro…I still kick myself for not buying a 69 Camaro Z28 instead of the 70.

          • Claire

            JeffH–The ’69 is a beauty. Cortez silver grey with black vinyl hardtop. It is a 350 4-barrel Rally Sport with hideaway headlights. All black leather interior. Bought it new for $3600. It has 33,439 miles on it. It is hard to keep my hands off of it. I drive it only during spring, summer and fall when the weather is nice. It is amazing to pull up at a stoplight and sometimes the person next to me wants to give it a go! I have to admit, it will haul. I also have to admit the silly part of me wants to “take them on.” Isn’t that terrible! Old enough to know better too young to resist!!! lol

          • JC

            68 Camaro SS Ragtop…beautiful! ;)

          • Claire

            JC– ’68 Camaro SS ragtop?!! Wonderful!!!

          • JC

            Claire, I’ve had it since 1979. It’s in almost mint condition too. :)

          • Claire

            JC—Great!! What color? We love ours. Some friends of ours has a “hugger orange” ’69 ragtop. He works on his cars all the time. Oh, do you like the new Camaros?

          • JC

            English Racing Green with a white bumble stripe around the nose and a black top. Black Leather interior (custom) ;)
            I like to drive around with the top down playing the Beach Boys. lol

          • Claire

            JC–You said “genuinely American” doesn’t that have a great sound!!!
            Banging out kids–I agree with you on that wholeheartedly, these people do not care how these little kids will end up. Tragic, appalling situation. I’ve ranted on other posts that the government sterilized Native American Women back in the 50s, 60s and early 70s. Spay and neuter- bluntly speaking. Gosh that sounds awful, but hey… it is the little kids that suffer for this atrocity.

        • Claire

          JC—Whoa– great color! I’ve never had a ragtop. Kinda always wanted one though. Your Camaro sounds neat. Aren’t we lucky!!!!

          • JC

            Thanks Claire. But I like to think it’s the result of a lot of hard work (on both our parts) coupled with a love of something genuinely American.
            You don’t get to play with toys like these by making a career of banging out kids to collect more welfare. ;)
            You get there with drive!

      • s c

        Coal miner, so how many secondary loans did GM have to float so they could do it? GM has a vested interest in looking good at all costs. Their union connection demands it. Obummer demands it. Obummer’s robots expect it.
        We’ll see what happens. Until I know that GM did it RIGHT, I have no reason to believe the braindead media prostitutes who are are protecting Obummer’s regime 24/7.
        BTW, I will NEVER buy any vehicles made in Detroit other than Ford. I know how to be patriotic. SCREW the other two vehicle makers.

      • angel-wanna-be

        coalminer___http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-bloggers/2497894/posts

      • http://?? Joe H.

        coalscabber,
        Who had the best yearly report, though??? Ford and they didn’t have to take a cent from the government to do it!!!!! Just common sense and good Management!!!

      • JC

        A Republican senator is questioning General Motors’ claim that it has repaid its taxpayer-funded loans in full.

        Sen. Chuck Grassley is asking Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner to justify those claims. According to the Iowa Republican, GM has repaid its TARP (taxpayer-funded bailout) loans using other TARP funds.

        The automaker – which is 61 percent owned by the U.S. and 12 percent owned by Canada — announced on Wednesday that it has fully repaid the $6.7-billion in loans it received from the U.S. and Canadian governments.

        “GM is able to repay the taxpayers in full, with interest, ahead of schedule, because more customers are buying vehicles like the Chevrolet Malibu and Buick LaCrosse we build here in Fairfax,” said GM Chairman Ed Whitacre during a visit to an auto plant in Fairfax, Kansas on Wednesday.

        But as the Associated Press reported, GM received a total of $52 billion from the U.S. government and $9.5 billion from the Canadian and Ontario governments as part of its bankruptcy reorganization. The U.S. considered $6.7 billion of the $52 billion as a loan.

        In fact, GM still owes $45.3 billion to the U.S. and $8.1 billion to Canada, money it received in exchange for shares in the company. GM said it hopes to repay those amounts with an eventual public stock offering, the AP reported.

        “It looks like [GM’s] announcement is really just an elaborate TARP money shuffle,” Grassley said in an April 22 letter to Treasury Secretary Geithner. “The repayment dollars haven’t come from GM selling cars but, instead, from a TARP account at the Treasury Department.”

        http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/charles-grassley-gm-bailout/2010/04/23/id/356756?s=al&promo_code=9CE6-1

    • Cribster

      Quit joking around, very funny!

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      American Liberal… It’s obvious you have never listened to / watched conservative radio / TV. If you have, then you just didn’t get it, which is not all that surprising.

    • kate8

      AL, I’m really sick of you libs demonizing decent people. I’d wager you have never listened to any of the folks you just mentioned. I defy you to bring one single quote from any of them that was hateful.

      You make such blanket statements but never back them up. Of course, you libs interpret any dissent toward your messiah as hate. I want to see something said that was truly hateful, because the only hate I ever see comes from you and your ilk.

      Textbook Saul Alinsky. We’ve all got your number, AL. You are wasting your time.

      • JeffH

        kate8…keep ‘em honest. You know I love it!

      • BigBadJohn

        Here ya go Kate,
        Rush 10 quotes:
        1. “Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”
        2. “Right. So you go into Darfur and you go into South Africa, you get rid of the white government there. You put sanctions on them. You stand behind Nelson Mandela — who was bankrolled by communists for a time, had the support of certain communist leaders. You go to Ethiopia. You do the same thing.”
        3. “Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”
        4. “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”
        5. “They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”
        6. [To an African American female caller]: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”
        7.” I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.”
        8. Limbaugh’s many attacks on Obama.
        Limbaugh has called Obama a ‘halfrican American’ has said that Obama was not Black but Arab because Kenya is an Arab region, even though Arabs are less than one percent of Kenya. Since mainstream America has become more accepting of African-Americans, Limbaugh has decided to play against its new racial fears, Arabs and Muslims. Despite the fact Obama graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law school, Limbaugh has called him an ‘affirmative action candidate.’ Limbaugh even has repeatedly played a song on his radio show ‘Barack the Magic Negro’ using an antiquated Jim Crow era term for Black a man who many Americans are supporting for president. Way to go Rush.
        9. “We need segregated buses… This is Obama’s America.”
        10. “Obama’s entire economic program is reparations/”

        http://newsone.com/obama/casey-gane-mccalla/top-10-racist-limbaugh-quotes/

        Glenn Beck:
        . “This president I think has exposed himself over and over again as a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture….I’m not saying he doesn’t like white people, I’m saying he has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a racist.” –on President Obama, sparking an advertiser exodus from his FOX News show, July 28, 2009 (Source)

        2. “I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. … No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out. Is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus — band — Do, and I’ve lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, ‘Yeah, I’d kill Michael Moore,’ and then I’d see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I’d realize, ‘Oh, you wouldn’t kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn’t choke him to death.’ And you know, well, I’m not sure.” –responding to the question “What would people do for $50 million?”, “The Glenn Beck Program,” May 17, 2005 (Source)

        3. “When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I’m just like, ‘Oh shut up’ I’m so sick of them because they’re always complaining.” –”The Glenn Beck Program,” Sept. 9, 2005 (Source)
        4. “The only [Katrina victims] we’re seeing on television are the scumbags.” –”The Glenn Beck Program,” Sept. 9, 2005 (Source)

        5. “I think there is a handful of people who hate America. Unfortunately for them, a lot of them are losing their homes in a forest fire today.” –on why people who lost their homes in forest fires in California had it coming, “The Glenn Beck Program,” Oct. 22, 2007 (Source)

        6. “I have been nervous about this interview with you because what I feel like saying is, ‘Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies. … And I know you’re not. I’m not accusing you of being an enemy, but that’s the way I feel, and I think a lot of Americans will feel that way.” –interviewing Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), the first Muslim U.S. congressman, Glen Beck’s show on CNN’s Headline News, Nov. 14, 2006 (Source)

        7. “Al Gore’s not going to be rounding up Jews and exterminating them. It is the same tactic, however. The goal is different. The goal is globalization…And you must silence all dissenting voices. That’s what Hitler did. That’s what Al Gore, the U.N., and everybody on the global warming bandwagon [are doing].” –”The Glenn Beck Program,” May 1, 2007 (Source)

        8. “So here you have Barack Obama going in and spending the money on embryonic stem cell research. … Eugenics. In case you don’t know what Eugenics led us to: the Final Solution. A master race! A perfect person. … The stuff that we are facing is absolutely frightening.” –”The Glenn Beck Program,” March 9, 2009 (Source)

        9. “You have the artwork of Mussolini there, here in New York at Rockefeller Plaza.” –analyzing the artwork decorating Rockefeller Plaza, which he said contained a hammer and sickle, Glenn Beck show on FOX News Channel, Sept. 2, 2009 (Source)

        “I tell people don’t kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus – living fossils – so we will never forget what these people stood for.”

        - Rush Limbaugh, Denver Post, 12-29-95

        “If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual gay sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. All of those things are antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family and that’s sort of where we are in today’s world, unfortunately. It all comes from, I would argue, the right to privacy that doesn’t exist, in my opinion, in the United States Constitution.”

        - Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA), Associated Press, 04-22-03

        “I would warn Orlando that you’re right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don’t think I’d be waving those flags in God’s face if I were you. This is not a message of hate; this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It’ll bring about terrorist bombs; it’ll bring earthquakes, tornadoes and possibly a meteor.”

        - Pat Robertson, speaking of organizers putting rainbow flags up around Orlando to support sexual diversity, Washington Post, 06-10-98. For the record, Orlando remains undestroyed by meteors.

        “Environmentalists are a socialist group of individuals that are the tool of the Democrat Party. I’m proud to say that they are my enemy. They are not Americans, never have been Americans, never will be Americans.”

        - Rep. Don Young (R-AK), Alaska Public Radio, 08-19-96

        “When you strip it all away, Jerry Garcia destroyed his life on drugs. And yet he’s being honored, like some godlike figure. Our priorities are out of whack, folks.”

        - Rush (currently under investigation for drug use) Limbaugh, on the death of Jerry Garcia, 08-20-95.

        “I don’t understand how poor people think.”

        - George W. Bush, confiding in the Rev. Jim Wallis, New York Times, 08-26-03

        “Get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him.”

        - Rep. James Hansen (R-UT), talking about President Clinton, as reported by journalist Steve Miner of KSUB radio who overheard his conversation, 11-01-98

        “We’re going to keep building the party until we’re hunting Democrats with dogs.”

        - Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX), Mother Jones, 08-95

        “My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building.”

        - Ann Coulter, New York Observer, 08-26-02

        “Homosexuals want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers.”

        - Pat Robertson again, The 700 Club, 01-18-95

        “And there is, I am certain, among the Iraqi people a respect for the care and the precision that went into the bombing campaign.”

        - Donald Rumsfeld, defenselink.mil, 04-09-03

        “Emotional appeals about working families trying to get by on $4.25 an hour are hard to resist. Fortunately, such families do not exist.”

        - Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX), House Majority Whip, during a debate on increasing the minimum wage, Congressional Record, H3706, 04-23-96

        “Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past – I’m not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble – recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin’s penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an ‘enemy of the people.’ The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, ‘clan liability.’ In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished ‘to the ninth degree’: that is, everyone in the offender’s own generation would be killed and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed.”

        - John Derbyshire, National Review, 02-15-01

        “I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that’s the way it is, period.”

        - Pat Robertson again, The 700 Club, 01-08-92

        “Probably nothing.”

        - Jeb Bush, during his losing 1994 bid for Florida Governor, when asked what he would do for black people, quoted by Salon on 10-05-02

        “The homosexual blitzkrieg has been better planned and executed than Hitler’s.”

        - Rep. William Dannemeyer (R-CA), The New Republic, 08-01-94

        “When lawlessness is abroad in the land, the same thing will happen here that happened in Nazi Germany. Many of those people involved in Adolph Hitler were Satanists. Many of them were homosexuals. The two things seem to go together.”

        - Pat Robertson again, The 700 Club, 01-21-93

        “Why is this man in the White House? The majority of Americans did not vote for him. Why is he there? And I tell you this morning that he’s in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this.”

        - Lt. General William G. Boykin, Deputy Undersecretary of Defense, New York Times, 10-17-03

        “We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors.”

        - Ann Coulter, at the Conservative Political Action Conference, 02-26-02

        “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”

        - Grover Norquist, President of Americans for Tax Reform, NPR Morning Edition, 05-25-01

        “I don’t agree that you need an enormous number of American troops. Saddam’s army is down to one-third than it was before, and I think it would be a cakewalk.”

        - Kenneth Adelman, Defense Policy Board, to Wolf Blitzer on CNN, 12-06-01

        “The fact of the matter is that this (increased American casualties) is a sign of the success of our operation, not its failure.”

        - Ralph Reed, GOP strategist, on MSNBC’s program ‘Hardball,’ 10-28-03

        “There are some who feel that, you know, the conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is, bring ‘em on. We have the force necessary to deal with the situation.”

        - George W. Bush, Chicago Tribune, 07-03-03

        “The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy, we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on, which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason.”

        - Paul Wolfowitz, quoted by Tim Russert on ‘Meet The Press, NBC, 06-01-03

        “Quit looking at the symbols. Get out and get a job. Quit shooting each other. Quit having illegitimate babies.”

        - State Rep. John Graham Altman (R-SC), addressing African-American concerns about the ‘symbol’ of the Confederate Flag, New York Times, 01-24-97

        “Two things made this country great: White men & Christianity. The degree these two have diminished is in direct proportion to the corruption and fall of the nation. Every problem that has arisen (sic) can be directly traced back to our departure from God’s Law and the disenfranchisement of White men.”

        - State Rep. Don Davis (R-NC), emailed to every member of the North Carolina House and Senate, reported by the Fayetteville Observer, 08-22-01

        “NOW is saying that in order to be a woman, you’ve got to be a lesbian.”

        - Pat Robertson again, The 700 Club, 12-03-97

        “My biggest fear is going to be going to the funeral of some young Iowa man or woman who dies in this conflict and having their mother or father come up to me and ask whether or not their son or daughter died for America, or died to save Bill Clinton’s presidency. I don’t know what I would say to those grieving parents. For that reason I believe the President must resign immediately.”

        - Rep. Jim Nussle (R-IA), Congressional Record, H11963, 12-18-98

        “Why should we hear about body bags and deaths and how many, what day it’s gonna happen? It’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?”

        - Barbara Bush, said on ‘Good Morning America’ the day before the Iraq war started, New York Times, 01-13-03

        “I’m the commander – see, I don’t need to explain – I don’t need to explain why I say things. That’s the interesting thing about being the President. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don’t feel like I owe anybody an explanation.”

        - George W. Bush, Washington Post, 11-19-02

        • kate8

          BBJ, I ask again, show me something hateful. I’m familiar with most of these quotes, and I can hardly call the truth “hate speech”. Some of these are out of context, and are in response to verbal abuse on the other end.

          Really, is this the best you can do? Because for every one of these, I can find 10 that liberals said that are outright lies or call for violence and even murder. Now that’s hate speech.

          You people are laughable. You just keep beating the same tired drum, and we’re just not biting anymore.

        • kate8

          BBJ, what? Obviously you spend a great deal of your time compiling lists of things conservatives say in order to twist them and try to use against them at some point.

          If your position had any validity you’d be able to futher it on its own merit, instead of trying to find ways to damage those with whom you disagree.

          Pathetic.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            kate8,
            quit wasting your time, he’s obviously another eyes in that he claims to have been a republican when in truth he has been a dyed in the wool libbie for the entirety of his miserable exhistance!!!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            kate8,
            with out checking my lists,
            P-lousey” Them? oh we just call them astro-turf”
            P-lousey again ” if they have served and are trained to use a firearm then they are possible terrorists!”
            Ms Clintoon, If they disagree with this administration then they are haters and racists” this after she complained about people calling her on statements during the Bush admin!!
            Obummer” Bring it on!”
            Obummer again,”if they want a fight then they will get one!”
            Now these statements weren’t made by radio hosts, they were made by representatives of the government of the United States of America!!!! There’s a big difference!!!!

          • BigBadJohn

            So you do not consider these hateful or inflammatory?
            Explains a lot!!!!!

            I challenge you to find a quote from a democratic congressman that endorsed assassinating Bush!

            6. [To an African American female caller]: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”

            10. “Obama’s entire economic program is reparations/”

            . “I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. …

            3. “When I see a 9/11 victim family on television, or whatever, I’m just like, ‘Oh shut up’ I’m so sick of them because they’re always complaining.” –”The Glenn Beck Program,” Sept. 9, 2005 (Source)

            9. “You have the artwork of Mussolini there, here in New York at Rockefeller Plaza.” –analyzing the artwork decorating Rockefeller Plaza, which he said contained a hammer and sickle, Glenn Beck show on FOX News Channel, Sept. 2, 2009 (Source)

            “I tell people don’t kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus – living fossils – so we will never forget what these people stood for.”

            - Rush Limbaugh, Denver Post, 12-29-95

            “Get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him.”

            - Rep. James Hansen (R-UT), talking about President Clinton, as reported by journalist Steve Miner of KSUB radio who overheard his conversation, 11-01-98

          • Claire

            JoeH– You know as well as I do that both parties are/can be hateful. I have heard it myself from BOTH parties. AND I am NOT a liar. There are politicians from both parties that have despicable mouths.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Claire,
          Where did I say anyone lied??? BBJ is trying to “quote” radio personalities and calling it hate speech. All I did was show him a few of them from government reps and THAT is ten times worse!!!!

  • Chaos factor

    I noticed this artical used an Islamic group to send the message that ” islamics ” are coming to get you….and the tea baggers fell for it …

    • JC

      Muslims are coming to get us all. Just look at the demographics.

  • s c

    The day ultraliberal progressives are on speaking terms with accuracy, fairness, knowledge, ethics and/or adult responsibility is the day I’ll consider becoming a Democrat. Of course, this isn’t likely, as that will also be the day when hell becomes this world’s most popular ski resort.
    Some of the more peculiar people on this website sure know how to whiz and moan about perceived hate in everyone else, but they NEVER see it in themselves (no mirrors in your glass houses?).
    Ultraliberal progressives, if anyone ever found a reason to love, worship and adore HYPOCRISY on a daily basis, it’s YOU.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    From: James Graham

    THE HEART OF OUR PROBLEMS IS OUR POLITICANS ARE MONEY HUNGRY !!!!

    As a widow of a military retiree, who stood with her husband for over 20 years while he served this country (which was the greatest in the world until this Congress and President took over), I have to say I agree. Shirley

    As a retired military man that have given over twenty-seven years of my life to my country, I truly feel that what this
    Country needs most is a new amendment to the Constitution . I am recommending that we add the 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES.

    For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that Congress members could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they didn’t pay into Social Security, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform that is being considered…in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn’t seem logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop.

    This is a good way to do that. It is an idea whose time has come.

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

    “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Congressman, Senators, Representatives and the President together with his/her staff; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Congressman, Senators, Representatives, and the President together with his/her staff that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States”.

    This 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES Will apply to all passed, present and future
    Presidents an their staffs , Congressman, Senators an Representatives.
    Just think of all the money this would save the tax payers!!!!!

    I think the Senators, Representatives or Congressman that comes out strongly for this will be our next President.

    HTCM USN Retired James A. Graham E-Mail address is ( jagraham@charter.net ) Please forward !!!!!!!

    • VMCox

      Mr. Graham: You might want to edit your perpetual post. You state the Healthcare bill that is being considered exempts congress. The Healthcare bill passed and is in effect. The congress is not exempt from it’s coverage. (see page 158) In fact they are required to participate in the exchanges and will lose the coverage now provided through the Fed. Employees Health Plan. Posting and sending the same email everyday, shows your total lack of knowledge on the subject. I’m a 26 year military spouse, but I don’t understand why you think that gives you cover or credibility.

  • Pete

    AM lib :
    Beck, Hannity, rush ? Merely call em’ out for what they truly are.
    You idiot Libs are the ones that feel the need to spin it into “Hate”
    “Racism” and “Anti-Government” bullshit. That crap just does’nt work, does it ?

  • Paul

    We also need term limit to all our representatives. They should work for us “We the People” not for them self and their cronies.
    It should not be a job for life.

    • Save America Susie

      I agree with you Paul….Until Congress & the President get on board with this HC Bill equally applying to them as well as us (not that I wanted it in the first place), and get down from their ROYAL THRONES, people will be upset. If someone is not upset by this, they are not paying attention to what is going on. They should NOT be above any law. But that is what they have done! Made themselves above the law. Term limits would bring them back down to Earth. That and stopping the endless retirement wealth check. Getting it just because they serve one term doesn’t make sense. They are neither gods nor Royalty! They are servants of the people! Remember “All men are created EQUAL”? Whatever happen to that one, I wonder?

  • Kris

    Well isn’t cair just so pro American! There are extremists on every side and cair just happens to be one of them! What happened to the democrats seperation of church and state when it comes to Islam? Lets see, footbaths in the KC airport, footbaths in citizen paid for colleges, special times in public schools for prayer and lets not forget the special rooms for girls and boys. Last time I checked, the citizens paid for that airport and that makes it govt. owned and run. But the dmocrats are good at having different standards for their group and different for everyone else.

    Now as for “extremists”. The left hanging Bush in effigy, ranting and holding posters of Bush with a bullet through his forehead or wearing a Hitler mustache are ok, but ordinary citizens who happen to be working folk, gathered together to tell the “president” that they don’t like where he’s taking this country are right away demonized to be terrorists. Well if that isn’t the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what else it could be! And as for Clinton, your through, you had your time in office, so just go to your 10 million dollar “home” and enjoy your retirement, we want to hear from you as much as we want to hear from Jimmy Carter, the anti semite and appeaser.

    • Chaos Factor

      Bush gave us 6000 Americans killed in Iraq , 50, 000 injured …100′s of thousands of dead Iraqis, millions wounded , Bush trampled allover the constitution, tortured prisoners…Bush drove our countrys economy into a ditch, worst recession since the 1930′s. put us in debt to china forever…Bush signed the Bailout bill … Gave us the patriot act.( repeal it now)………….. And President Obama gave America healthcare… And most of president Obamas spending has been a direct result of Bushs economy…..Bush deserved being slammed….

      • coal miner

        Chaos Factor,

        I agree with you one hundred persent.George Scab Bush deserves the crown as the worst President since Nightcrawler Coolidge.

        • JC

          Maybe, until now that is…

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Chaos Factor… Are you living in the past or just come out of a coma? George Bush is no longer President. Not much we can do about history, except learn from it.

        • BigBadJohn

          Agree unfortunately seems like a one way door.

          Conservatives like to say that Reagan’s 12% unemployment was due to Carter – three years into Reagan’s first term.
          Conservatives like to take credit for Clinton’s good economy because of the tax programs from Reagan and Bush – eight years after they were out of office.

          However Obama has been president less 2 years and conservatives like to try to place all of the blame for the economy and Bush’s national debt on him. They also like to blame him for the bailout programs, spying on citizens and all of the other grabs for presidential power, that were started under Bush.

          Guess I would just like to see a little more consistency and less hypocrisy.

          • Yankee Will

            O.K., how about this. Most of what is messed up in our economy today started with the Dempcrat controlled congress in Bush’s last term in office. They are the ones that told banks to give out the home loans to people who had no business getting them, because they could no-way-in-hell afford to pay them back. But if the banks said no, they risked the wrath of Barney Frank and Co. This is what started the snow-ball rolling. And Bush should have tried harder to stop the madness.
            And who was also a member of congress at the time? Obama.
            Come on people…

          • BigBadJohn

            Yankee Will do some research on Bush’s Ownership Society – Bush pushed banks for those risky loans long before 2006 to make his vision work.

            What started it all was Clinton signing legislation handed to him by the Republican majority to repeal Glass-Stiegel in 1999

          • JeffH

            Bush’s Ownership Society
            Why No One’s Buying.
            http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2005/0512.glastris.html

          • BigBadJohn

            ownership society

            http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080218/klein

            Bush came to office determined to take these trends even further, to deliver Social Security accounts to Wall Street and target minority communities–traditionally out of the Republican Party’s reach–for easy homeownership. “Under 50 percent of African Americans and Hispanic Americans own a home,” Bush observed in 2002. “That’s just too few.” He called on Fannie Mae and the private sector “to unlock millions of dollars, to make it available for the purchase of a home”–an important reminder that subprime lenders were taking their cue straight from the top.

          • JeffH

            It seems they all have a similar agenda, just a different approach in their delivery.

      • Bass

        Chaos Factor, your way of thinking, you beleive Bush directed katrina
        to hit an destroy part of L.A… Were you there when it hit? Too lazy like the rest of Dems to pick up and move from it’s path? Beleive what you want, it is going down in history that obama and the Dems bankrupted The U.S.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        CF,
        How many have died in the middle east since Obummer took over?? How long ago did Obummer repeal the Patriot Act? Oh, he didn’t? In fact, he just extended it!! What is going on now is 100% Obummers!!! Bush is past history!!!

        • JC

          Another “Blame Bush” mouthpiece. As bad as he was (or wasn’t)I’m amazed that these morons think that a bad President is some kind of excuse for a (non) President to be 10 times worse.
          How freaking nuts do you have to be?

    • kate8

      You said it well, Kris. It is clear how this works with the left: go out and talk and act as angry, violent and hateful as possible, make a scene (while the media cameras are rolling), and then point the finger at the right. And repeat it endlessly until you convince even yourselves.

      There is just no other way to view this. It’s pure evil.

  • Kris

    Are you gay Chaos? Just wondering because the term tea bagger is a gay term used for a specific sex act. Don’t be ashamed, just admit what you are and you’ll be a happier person!

    • BigBadJohn

      ROFL..

      Do tell – how do you know all about this?……

    • JC

      Probably gets all wound up just saying the word. ;)

  • Pete

    Kris,
    I hear ya’ man. These lefties sure seem to be obsessed with Teabagging for some reason.

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    Fact: America is Israel, not Judah! Fact: Hebrew is Yahweh’s only inspired Language(Zeph. 3:9)! Fact: Yahweh spoke Hebrew(Acts 26:14)! Fact: Israel is forbidden from putting a “foreigner” over them(Deut. 17:15)! Fact: “Women” did just that in the last election! Fact: Some things do not change from the original sin, do they? Fact: The Sabbath is the Seventh Day Forever, NOT SUNDAY(Exodus 31:13)! FACT: Sabbath Rest is the only sign given to Yahweh’s people! FACT: Sabbaths include all Annual Sabbaths too! Fact: This will bring on Yahweh’s Two-Witnesses to punish Israel for 3 1/2 years, probably starting this September 9th! Fact: Even the Roman Catholic Church acknowledges the translation error made in 1520 by Petrus Galatinus and that it should have been the “Name” Yahweh, and not Jehovah! Fact: Yahshua(means Yahweh is salvation in Hebrew!), is Yahweh’s only begotten son and our only Savior! Also, fact: The “LORD” in Hebrew means “Baal” worship, which is absolutely forbidden! Some things never change, do they? Israel is about to be punished for 3 1/2 years through Yahshua’s two-witnesses! Fact: You’re going to HATE THESE TWO WITNESSES AGAINST ISRAEL, especially YOU WOMEN! Watch!

  • Pete

    Victor,
    I know there is a point rattling around in there somewhere.
    Can you break it down for us ?

    • Winchester Steele

      Perhaps he is a follower of the “British Israel” subversive movement. Read “The Neutralizers”, a chapter in the book, “The New Americanism”, by Robert Welch, for an explanation of how the Communists have used false religious notions to lead patriots astray and “newtralize” thei effctiveness against big government.

  • Dee

    I suggest EVERYONE read Jayna Davis’ book, “The Third Terrorist”. The writer was a reporter in Oklahoma at the time of the bombing and she did extensive research on the bombing. This is a MUST read to see what background the third terrorist had/has who worked with McVeigh and Nichols to bring down that building. And, No, it’s not Bush’s fault. He wasn’t President then.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    Isaiah 65:24

    This is a story written by a doctor who worked in Africa .
    One night I had worked hard to help a mother in the labor ward; but in spite of all we could do, she died, leaving us with a tiny, premature baby and a crying two-year-old daughter. We would have difficulty keeping the baby alive; as we had no incubator (we had no electricity to run an incubator).

    We also had no special feeding facilities.

    Although we lived on the equator, nights were often chilly with treacherous drafts. One student midwife went for the box we had for such babies and the cotton wool that the baby would be wrapped in.

    Another went to stoke up the fire and fill a hot water bottle. She came back shortly in distress to tell me that in filling the bottle, it had burst (rubber perishes easily in tropical climates)..

    ‘And it is our last hot water bottle!’ she exclaimed. As in the West, it is no good crying over spilled milk, so in Central Africa
    it might be considered no good crying over burst water bottles.

    They do not grow on trees, and there are no drugstores down forest pathways.

    ‘All right,’ I said, ‘put the baby as near the fire as you safely can, and sleep between the baby and the door to keep it free from drafts Your job is to keep the baby warm.’

    The following noon, as I did most days, I went to have prayers with any of the orphanage children who chose to gather with me. I gave the youngsters various suggestions of things to pray about and told them about the tiny baby. I explained our problem about keeping the baby warm enough,mentioning the hot water bottle, and that the baby could so easily die if it got chills. I also told them of the two-year-old sister, crying because her mother had died.

    During prayer time, one ten -year-old girl, Ruth, prayed with the usual blunt conciseness of our African children. ‘Please, God’ she prayed, ‘Send us a hot water bottle today It’ll be no good tomorrow, God, as the baby will be dead, so please send it this afternoon.’

    While I gasped inwardly at the audacity of the prayer, she added, ‘And while You are about it, would You please send a dolly for the little girl so she’ll know You really love her?’

    As often with children’s prayers, I was put on the spot. Could I honestly say ‘Amen?’ I just did not believe that God could do this.

    Oh, yes, I know that He can do everything; the Bible says so. But there are limits, aren’t there? The only way God could answer this particular prayer would be by sending me a parcel from the homeland. I had been in Africa for almost four years at that time, and I had never, ever, received a parcel from home.

    Anyway, if anyone did send me a parcel, who would put in a hot water bottle? I lived on the equator!

    Halfway through the afternoon, while I was teaching in the nurses’ training school, a message was sent that there was a car at my front door. By the time I reached home, the car had gone, but there on the verandah was a large 22-pound parcel. I felt tears pricking my eyes. I could not open the parcel alone, so I sent for the orphanage children.. Together we pulled off the string, carefully undoing each knot. We folded the paper, taking care not to tear it unduly Excitement was mounting. Some thirty or forty pairs of eyes were focused on the large cardboard box. From the top, I lifted out brightly-colored, knitted jerseys. Eyes sparkled as I gave them out. Then there were the knitted bandages for the leprosy patients, and the children looked a little bored.. Then came a box of mixed raisins and sultanas – that would make a batch of buns for the weekend.

    Then, as I put my hand in again, I felt the…..could it really be?

    I grasped it and pulled it out. Yes, a brand new, rubber hot water bottle. I cried.

    I had not asked God to send it; I had not truly believed that He could.

    Ruth was in the front row of the children. She rushed forward, crying out, ‘If God has sent the bottle, He must have sent the dolly, too!’

    Rummaging down to the bottom of the box, she pulled out the small, beautifully-dressed dolly. Her eyes shone! She had never doubted!

    Looking up at me, she asked, ‘Can I go over with you and give this dolly to that little girl, so she’ll know that Jesus really loves her?’

    ‘Of course,’ I replied!

    That parcel had been on the way for five whole months, packed up by my former Sunday school class, whose leader had heard and obeyed God’s prompting to send a hot water bottle, even to the equator.

    And one of the girls had put in a dolly for an African child – five months before, in answer to the believing prayer of a ten-year-old to bring it ‘that afternoon.’

    ‘Before they call, I will answer.’ (Isaiah 65:24)

    When you receive this, say the prayer. That’s all I ask. No strings attached. Just send it on to whomever you want – but do send it on.

    Prayer is one of the best free gifts we receive. There is no cost, but a lot of rewards. Let’s continue praying for one another.

    This awesome prayer takes less than a minute.

    Heavenly Father, I ask you to bless my friends reading this. I ask You to minister to their spirit. Where there is pain, give them Your peace and mercy. Where there is self doubting, release a renewed confidence to work through them Where there is tiredness or exhaustion, I ask You to give them understanding, guidance, and strength. Where there is fear, reveal our love and release to them Your courage.. Bless their finances, give them greater vision, and raise up leaders and friends to support and encourage them. I ask You to do these things in Jesus’ name. Amen

    P. S. Passing this on to anyone you consider a friend will bless you both. Passing this on to one not considered a friend is something Christ would do

    • Chaos Factor

      Save the religious act…you and Victor are both nutcases….

      • kate8

        And you, obviously, have no heart.

      • coal miner

        Chaos Factor,

        I think all these religious buffoons are nuts.

        • JeffH

          ” Oh you walking on the left hand path !! Who has deciphered the magic letters around the Baphomet, for it means “made in Taiwan”.

        • James

          Are you missing from your hole-in-the-ground again?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Coal scabber,
          No one thinks that of you!!! They know for certain!!!!

    • kate8

      James, that was beautiful. And I really needed it today.

      Thank you, and God bless you.

      • James

        My grandfather was a coal miner and my grandmother ocasionally posed that same question to him.

  • Raggs

    Who is the bad guy here?
    obama, pelosi, reid and clinton are telling us to shut up or else.

  • skywolf23

    i guess it is ok for left wingers on their blogs to say things like “bush and co. ought to be shot” or all the glee when tony snow got cancer on liberal blogs. on and on but that stuff never gets much attention.

    right wingers do the same and suddenly it is a national emergency. not that that should excuse anyone saying anything overly inflammatory. like someone should be killed or other such nonsense.

    all this comes when the white house is demonizing fox news and independent/conservative talk show hosts. would love to get guns out of the hands of the public. and would love even more to sink the tea party as a bunch of right wing nuts.

    and why have we never really gone hard after elf and those other left wing groups that have destroyed property, mailed out pipe bombs and have shown ever inclination to use violence against anyone they deem enemies of nature.

    of course right wing extrimist groups are out there and in the current climate communists in the white house, continuing massive government expansion, and of course they are going to be more riled up. not that we can just ignore that, but both sides have their extremes and are armed, how babout we focus on all equally and stop trying to pass the blame around to the tea party and fox news and glenn beack etc.

    • JC

      How about this: Everyone involved with putting a non American in the Oval Office should be tried for treason. Is that inflammatory?

      • skywolf23

        heck jc i been saying all of congress and white house should be tried for treason and violating their oaths of office for a good long while now. could probably try 3/4 of the congress and presidents in history for violating their oaths of office.

        not going to touch the obama is or isnt a real united states citizen thing, i do not like the guy i do not like his politics and that is enough.

        i just draw the line when it comes to threatening peoples lives. i would be all for a few million people marching on washington and shutting down the place and ousting the bastards. each and every last one of them, but then the question is if we could pull that off who would take over? but nonviolence is the key, we could effect change in this nation if you got enough people sick to death of the bullshit in washington and they had the will to do something about it.

        the electorate is so ill informed and disconnected from the process it is laughable, but that is just the way washington and the press wants it. politics is local, the furthur you remove it from the local level and the more convoluted you can make the laws and the more petty and disgusting you can make the process the less people pay attention. and washington has it all down to a ugly art form.

        100 years ago people payed attention, people knew what was going on and they voted their hearts and souls, now day we are so disconnected from the actual process and busy with work, families and just trying to get by that mixed with the whole shitstorm the entire washington system is is it any wonder half the people that vote do not know who is in charge of congress? who the house and senate leaders are and what party they belong to?

        all we get hammered with at election time is negative ads and platitudes and alot of no speak political jibberish. only a politician or lawyer can answer a question and lie through their teeth or talk in circles and not answer a damn thing and get away it it for the most part. and the press is mostly wholly complicate by never mentioning democrat in news stories if it is something bad 90% of the time. but heralding it if it is a republican and making sure it gets mentioned a dozen times in the same article or news story. or making sure when dan quail or cheny made a gaff it was all over the place but gore and biden can make equal mistakes and they never get a mention. hell gore has made a career of being galactically stupid and dishonest and gets a nobel prize for his efforts.

        • James

          Great commentary skywolf23!

        • JC

          Thanks skywolf. Good perspective.

        • Claire

          skywolf23– Very good post.

    • Raggs

      I agree with you but the left know that they are in dookie so the only way they have to control anything is to demonize the right.
      If you notice it is the left throwing hate not the right.
      The right is merely stating a concern with an over expanding government..

      • BigBadJohn

        POT – KETTLE – BLACK

        The right is getting taste of their own medicine….
        How many years has the right been putting up the constant chatter about mainstream media? OR calling anyone that even QUESTIONED Bush a Muslim traitor? The the right wing all but shutdown criticism of Bush, up until about 2006. Now the left is making the same kind of fuss, but you don’t like it it……. Bush was given a free hand for at least 6 years that republicans had control!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          BBJ,
          just file that with your “I used to be a republican” and all the other fairy tales!!!

          • BigBadJohn

            I will Joe I’ll file you under “used to have a brain”

        • JC

          Really…what is your point? One bad President is an excuse for an even worse imposter? Small small small minded….

          • BigBadJohn

            The point is the same people that supported Bush, want to put the same republicans back in power. That is a very important point – I do not like what is going on in the current administration but I certainly do not want the same people back that have sold our country down the river….

          • http://?? Joe H.

            BBJ,
            you should learn the difference between RINO and conservative, you really should!! Bush and most repubs back to but not including Reagan were RINOs!!!

  • Cribster

    I’m supposed to take ANYTHING SPLC or CAIR says seriously?! They are the antithisis of “WE The People”. CAIR and SPLC are anti-American, pro special interests, they are complete garbage and a major source of negativity.

    All these panicky outbursts from Clinton and the other twisted liberals are obvious, disingenuous theatrics. It would almost be laughable if it wasn’t so underhanded and repugnant.

    They are getting hysterical because there is a great awakening and it’s becoming harder to fool the masses, partially because of the availablility of information but more because we are being pushed too far!

  • http://n/a 2WarAbnVet

    Liberal/socialists should get down on their knees and thank God (or whoever they pray to – perhaps Al Gore) for Timothy McVeigh. If not for him they would not have a boogey man to constantly use against principled opponents of their agenda.
    Incidentally, while much has been made of the Oklahoma City bombing anniversary. I haven’t heard much about April 19 as the 235th anniversary of the stand by ignorant, rabble-rousing farmers at Lexington and Concord against the world’s most powerful army. Could they have been the “seditionists” Clinton recently warned us against?

    • ratuig dog

      One thing that has to be understood is that the left/socialist/liars are all more about idealogy and agenda than reality! Ive noticed that whenever I dissagree with a l/s/l nut they seem to ask basic simplistic questions like “don’t you agree that everyone should have health insurance”. They don’t ask specific questions like is it feasible can we or our country afford it how will it be paid for etc. They want to hear you say that “yes everyone should have health insurance” by you saying this one statement all youre doing is justifying their mindset and their belief system that they are correct in their thinking and that they are the better person. In spite of the fact that we will end up like Greece and the other Eurpean countries that are in deep financial trouble becaue of their socialistic spending. And I’m only using the healthcatre argument as an example for their way of thinking.
      As far as the lies that the left is constantly hurling at the republicans and at all the AMERICANS in the tea party rallies, it just shows their fear at how AMERICANS are waking to the fact of all the lies that the LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE and the democrats have been using to spread their agenda in the government. They are really afraid that AMERICANS

      • ratuig dog

        (continuing) have realized what kind of people they have placed in the government and AMERICANS are having buyers remorse about the liars in control!
        As for Timothy McVeigh I’ve always noticed whenever I dissagree with an l/s/l nut and the topic is terrorism, I always point out the basic truth that the majority of terrorist are muslim inspite of their nationality or race and the leftist/socialist/liars can and in almost all cases bring up Timothy Mcveigh he seems to their their only lifeline or the only person that they can bring in their defense of their arguments to defend the false muslim religion trying to be polictcally correct (denial). Ihave to agree wiht ‘Cribster” cair is ani-American it’s just another leftist/democratic group that is only out to push it’s self serving agenda for it’s false religion and its false god.
        And again the left is afraid fo what the AMERICAN people are starting to see and realize about them that’s why they’re hurling so much hate at the right and the Tea Party Americns!! That’s all they have is lies and hate to try to stay in power.
        In closing I would like to say the we have to start boycotting all the l/s/l t.v. stations that are not reporting the truth and instead lies. There are so many Americans who believe what they are being spoon fed by the l/s/l media. They are nothing but sheople and being fed nothing but grass

      • Ronald Reagan

        Rat… You’ve Been Told over and overhow the Healthcare bill will be paid for, the CBO ( congress) even told you the bill cuts the deficit by 1.38 billion on the first decade… You just aren’t capable of grasping the information… I’ll take a price tag of 940 billion to give Americans access to healthcare anyday… The bill pays for itself… Along with the tax cuts that expire on the top 2%… I’m thinking you aren’t in the top 2 %…now compare healthcare for America to the 3 trillion Bushs personal war aginst Iraq cost , with no benifit at all for America, to 940 billion that directly benifits all America…. You just can’t grasp it…. But your already paying for those that don’t have healthcare when they get sick and have to go to an emergency room… Which cost far more than seeing a real doctor… But I doubt you’ll get it..

        • ratuig dog

          Ronald: As I stated earlier here is the same problem, that you have been lied to by the l/s/l media and the guy in the white house and also the democratic politicians. Did you know that the liar in the white house has spent more money in his first year in office than George Bush spent the 7 years he was fighting the terrorist in Iraq!! No you wouldn’t know that because as I’ve stated you are one of the many sheople that are being spoon fed lies by the media and the liars in power. I guess you didn’t hear about the C.B.O releasing a staement about how in 10 years we will be at 90% of G.D.P (Greece is at 115% and they are broke and their banks are on the verge of collapse) I guess you didn’t hear about that either considering youre source for the truth which is the l/s/l media.

          • BigBadJohn

            Gosh I starting to sound like a broken record.

            “Did you know that the liar in the white house has spent more money in his first year in office than George Bush spent the 7 years he was fighting the terrorist in Iraq!!”

            CHECK YOUR FACTS – DON’T BELIEVE THE BS!!!!!!!!

            http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/NPGateway

            2008 GEORGE BUSH – 1.5 TRILLION

            2009 to present Obama – 2.2 TRILLION

            WAY too much but NOT what you claim…..

          • Claire

            I often wonder about this comment—- “You have to spend it to make it.”

        • Airangel

          You don’t get it if you believe the lies. Government hasn’t balanced anything or reduced deficit spending and they won’t here either. There are already free clinics for those without health care. This is a socialistic power grab giving the goverment access to everyone’s financial bank accounts to seize money however they want to if needed. Especially for penalties and fines for those that don’t want to buy insurance because they prefer alternative methods…hmmm if we do go broke the government can take money out of everyone’s accounts since this Health Care bill gives them the power as it is snuck in there in all the 3,200 pages.

          Companies are realizing the astronomical coverage costs they face; employers are facing severe cutbacks and overseas relocations as a result of the new tax and regulatory burdens; thousands of uninsured Americans are learning they’ll remain so for another four years; and millions of Medicare Advantage recipients will suffer coverage reductions and even termination of their plans.

          Read the bill before you spout media propaganda!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          yeah, it’s going to be paid for by cuts in medicare and adding people 59 years old and above to its ranks!! The Mayo Clinic in Arizona has already said that after the first of the year they will not be taking any more patients on medicare as they cannot afford it! It will soon be impossible for any medicare patients to find care anywhere as the government has screwed it up so bad! don’t forget even if you are “young” now, you get closer to that magic number 59 every day!!!

  • Chaos Factor

    Bush didn’t get called any names till he made it clear he had no intention of avenging 9/11… Bushs polls were Almost 90% after the attack which means liberals like me were supporting him and our country…. You anti American traitors and rightwing kooks started in on President Obama before he was even elected….so don’t even try and equate calling Bush names with what you have done and called president Obama…..it just proves how ignorant and hypocritical you are….

    • ratuig dog

      Daer Chaos Factor there is nothing hypocritical in calling a man what he is! Which is that the guy in the white hous is a LIAR and that is the TRUTH not a hypocritical statement!!!

    • Cribster

      Those of us who are aware and didn’t fall for the “hope and change” platitudes saw the nightmare for what he is and tried to warn the populous.

      He doesn’t have one decent friend or associate in his past. He has no experience doing anything other than stirring up unrest in urban centers. The one fact we did have was that he was the most liberal voter in the Senate, that is when he was not voting “present” to continue his lifetime of deception and his grooming for a presidential run.

      Oblahblah is a complete fraud, he doesn’t deserve to be within 100 feet of the American flag let alone traipsing through the White House along with the freak show he’s assembled for an administration.

      I think that he will hang himself sooner or later. You can’t keep up this level of destruction and deception for too long before it all comes toppling down, hence his rush for everything.

  • Pete

    To Chaos :
    The difference is as plane as the nose on you’re face.
    Obama surrounded himself with Radical , left wing, marxists his whole life. Everyone knew what he was all about before he even through his hat in the ring. But sadly, his flock couldnt or wouldnt see this. And would probably not even know the difference if it was mailed to them in the form of a government entitlement check.

    • ratuig dog

      Pete; The liar in the white house just happend to be at the right place at the right time. Americans were looking for something new and they believed his lies!! I don’t think Americans actually thought that this liar would be doing what he’s doing now!! Like I said there is alot of buyers remores for this liar and if people get their heads on RIGHT they’ll start to see he has to go starting with the November elections to stop his destruction of our Constitution!!!

      • Cribster

        So true about the timing ratuig. He’s riding the crest of a liberal tsunami that has been building for over half a century.

        • Pat R

          “Obama was a C.I.A. operative who used Columbia University as a cover to go to Pakistan in 1981 when the C.I.A. and the Mujahideen worked together against the Soviet Invasion. Obama supplied arms, logistics, and money using his Muslim background!”

          http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=6142

          • JeffH

            Barack Hussein “The Long Legged Mack Daddy” Obama was a C.I.A operative who used Columbia University as a cover to go to Pakistan in 1981 when the CIA and the Mujahideen worked together against the Soviet Invasion.

            I find it very difficult to imagine this scenario, but then again, I guess anything could be possible anymore.

  • Freedom Fighter

    Every radical group in the country has free, protected speech and is supported by the media and democrats in power. Hard working citizens who know they are being taxed to death speak out about this government with a spending addiction, and we are labeled as “seditious”. Enough of the hypocrisy!!!

  • Enlightened one

    America will end up like a 3rd world country if the republicans should ever get back in power…they only care about the rich …and our infrastructure always is ignored by the right…the republican agenda is always to let the country suffer so the very rich can have tax cuts….. If those tax cuts are so wonderful , why didn’t they work?…president Obama has given 95% a tax cut….if you work , your bringing home more money… More money on you check means you can spend more …. The republicans want more in the hands of the rich .. This recession was cause because all the wealth has gone up so the middle class has taken the hit…. This is about to change… In 2011 these unfair anti middle class tax cuts will expire …., so watch for the republicans to pick up the hate and lies .. Remember this… The country always does better when the middleclass has more to spend .. Time for the rich to share the burden.. Never before have the rich made more money than they did under the republicans……

    • Yankee Will

      O…M…G…
      It amazes me how one person can be so full of CRAP!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Dim one,
      Yeah, he gave a tax cut during the year then collected it back at the end of the year!!!!

      • JC

        And that’s how “bait and switch” works on truly simple people.

  • Airangel

    Right Wing are not “haters”, just Freedom lovers…many Democrats actually agree too. No one wants the president or the economy to fail but all scientific data points to the downfall of America. We are broke and when someone has worked hard all their lives to provide for their family only to have everything taken away by the government, tempers are going to flare…Government is TOO BIG, SPENDING OUT OF CONTROL AND TAXING US TO DEATH! Another poster highlighted it best and well ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and if it isn’t curbed…well the anger you are witnessing will only get worse…it’s inevitable.

    The inheritance tax..
    Accounts Receivable Tax
    Building Permit Tax
    CDL license Tax
    Cigarette Tax
    Corporate Income Tax
    Dog License Tax
    Excise Taxes
    Federal Income Tax
    Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
    Fishing License Tax
    Food License Tax
    Fuel Permit Tax
    Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
    Gross Receipts Tax
    Hunting License Tax
    Inheritance Tax
    Inventory Tax
    IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
    Liquor Tax
    Luxury Taxes
    Marriage License Tax
    Medicare Tax
    Personal Property Tax
    Property Tax
    Real Estate Tax
    Service Charge Tax
    Social Security Tax
    Road Usage Tax
    Recreational Vehicle Tax
    Sales Tax
    School Tax
    State Income Tax
    State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
    Telephone Federal Excise Tax
    Telephone Federal Universal Service FeeTax
    Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
    Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
    Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax
    Telephone State and Local Tax
    Telephone Usage Charge Tax
    Utility Taxes
    Vehicle License Registration Tax
    Vehicle Sales Tax
    Watercraft Registration Tax
    Well Permit Tax
    Workers Compensation Tax

    STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

    What in the hell happened? Can you spell ‘politicians? Government HAS TO BE REINED IN and more private sector jobs created (NOT GOVERNMENT JOBS which are more taxes since that is how their salary is paid)

    • American liberal

      Air… If you don’t like paying a phone tax…take you phone out… If you don’t like paying a cigarette tax, then don’t smoke…. All those things you listed are what it takes to have things like cars and driving… You made my point.. The rich don’t pay those… They pass the cost on to you…. I don’t mind paying a tax to drive the highways… No highway tax… No highways…. You can’t have an infrastructure without paying for it…..you can’t have an electrical grid without paying for one…. You like streetlights?… Gotta pay for it…. It’s called civilization….so your argument is nonsense ….. Do you want police to keep all those nasty illegals out?…. Gotta pay… Do you want to fight the war on terrorism?… It’s gonna take taxes for a strong military… Remember the military Bush depleted in Iraq?… Gotta pay for it….. Now how do we play for civilization if the middleclass has no cash?… The rich aren’t willing to do it… They want you to .. But they don’t want you to have the money….. Billionairs don’t pay… They have tax shelters .., wake up… Were going back to the tax code we had in the 90′s wheather you like it or not

      • Airangel

        Am lib, you missed my point…I don’t mind paying taxes for safety, infrastructure and “NECESSARY” economic growth BUT it has gotten excessive to say the least and WAY OUT OF CONTROL! Where does it stop to where the average American can have some quality to life, when you keep taking more and more freedoms, that last nerve will be severed…we are coming to a boiling point if it’s not reversed…BTW I don’t smoke or have a home phone..totally not the point…people should be empowered to prosper and take care of their own families and earn a fair wage…they should not depend on the government for an indefinite “life line”, just a “crutch” until they can help themselves…most are actually HAPPY when they have their own independence!

      • Rob Alexander

        Actually the rich DO pay excise taxes, they mostly get out of the one really insidious tax, and ironically, the tax most loved by liberals – the income tax.

        Being a liberal, I’m sure you’ll suggest that if people don’t like the income tax, they just shouldn’t work and get on the welfare train… I mean really, the goal of your ill-conceived movement seems to be no one working or doing anything that produces wealth and everyone receiving the amount of money they need to barely continue existing from the magical government money tree anyway… Since you couldn’t seriously believe that people are going to produce without the potential for reward in proportion to the value of whatever they produce.

      • Jim H.

        Am. Lib, If you don’t like income tax don’t have a job?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Jim H.,
          I find it hilarious that he says you want to keep all those nasty illegals out/ You have to pay! Well we have paid and paid and we still haven’t seen one inclination of trying to keep them out! does that mean we can quit paying that part of our taxes??? NOPE!!!

  • Pete

    Sorry but that’s a load of bull. You are merely parroting the liberal rhetoric that they want you to say. It’s how they operate. Cass envy,” The rich get richer and the poor get poorer”
    Lookie here, son. the rich get richer because they keep doing the things that make you rich. The poor get poorer because they continue doing the things that makes you poor. Tough to understand, I know, but try.

    • American liberal

      The old class envy argument…. Nothing wrong with being rich… The problem is that in the past decade the rich have become far more wealthy as the middleclass wages and wealth has gone down… The trickle down theory isn’t working…have the tax cuts to the top 2 % worked?.. In fact the TAX CUTS are still in place… You’re argument that ” it’s envy are as empty as your head…..and the worst recession of our lifetime is proof… Why in hell do you want to keep doing what doesn’t work?… The middleclass has no money to spend on goods.. And when that happens the country falls into recession…who suffers more in a recession… The billionair or the middleclass?…without a strong middleclass their is no economy… Somebody has to be the buyer .. Republicans are aginst the middleclass…and they use scare tactics on the ignorant to keep the middleclass down….those poor, poor rich… They’ve had it so bad….. They’ve made way to much in bonus money… While the very mean middleclass had to bail them out due to greed… And you ignorant rightwingers are defending them….companys that went belly up were bailedout by who? The middleclass… The same CEO’s you nutjobs are defending made off like bandits during this recession…

      • Rob Alexander

        Your analysis of the separating classes is correct, but your root cause couldn’t be farther off.

        This is happening because of liberal policies being implemented, not lack of same. Regulations and redistribution of wealth are the reason for this.

        What on earth makes anyone think any system of regulation and wealth redistribution isn’t going to be used primarily for the benefit of those who control the system? NEWS FLASH: The system is controlled by the wealthy.

        We don’t live in a classroom, we live in the real world, and liberalism doesn’t work the same way in the real world as the classroom says it’s “supposed to”.

      • Grey Wolf

        Liberals were the ones that destroyed the middle class. By the way, I have a nice job thanks to several wealthy persons. You’re knowledge of economics is pathetic, too. Please reply, I can take what ever you hurl at me. BTW, when the economy does implode & the social order collapses, you’ll be one of the first to go!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        am a lib,
        If you are middle class and still working and your wages have gone down, you are doing something drastically WRONG!!!! My wifes and mine haven’t gone down and we are not in trouble. We, in fact will pay off our house in July!!! We paid 30,000 on it this year to protect us in case the economy gets even worse. We used our heads and bought a house we could more than afford and added to it later and now we have a house that is worth about 50,000 more than we paid for even with the down turn in the housing market!!!

  • American liberal

    No president has ever abused the Constitution , Bill of Rights, And America like George W. Bush and Dick Cheney did…. With the help of the Republicans…. And that’s all the Tea Bag party is… Just republicans pretending to be something else …

    • Dale

      And AL . . . which of them did the Bamster stop???
      Now he’s added healthcare, taking over private business and neglecting to turn in his B/C to the list.

    • Airangel

      You know Am Lib, you are not very respectful or politically correct which is the “lib” way isn’t it? You might be heard more if you called the Tea Party the Tea Party and not the “Tea Bag Party”…they have done nothing wrong except fight for what is their right. It is “your” party trying to infiltrate and smear their name to discredit them. If you’d listen, you would realize they are against far reaching Republicans too, not just liberals since both party’s are to blame for the mess we’re in right now. That seems to be a huge problem…people want to vote for “title” only, not for what the elected official brings to the table for the betterment of America.

    • Grey Wolf

      Hey Lib: What about FDR? The internment of Americans of Japanese ancestory, the whole New Deal itself along with the beginning of the government actually intervening in the privacy of citizens. I would say he, too circumvented the constitution & just happened to get this nation into another war along the way. BTW, liberals got the U.S. into all the wars of the last century.

    • JC

      Are you trying to make excuses for President Osama?

  • Pete

    Sorry, my last comment was meant for “Enlightened one”

  • Joann

    I think the President’s personality was exposed prior to the beer summit. I think he is a younger Al Sharpton and Rev Wright combined
    I was hoping he would make the race issue seamless but he gets an “A”
    on Polarization. He has moved to the top of the class. And Clinton,
    I want to know how he handled Waco. Nothing is said about that.
    I think he should revisit his own behavior before judging Main Street
    America People. As of today I think we still have freedom of Speech.
    Or has Washington closed that down today.

    • TIME

      Joann,
      We still have free Speech for the moment, but as soon as BarryO’s czars can figure out how to close that door, they will be on it like snow on a mountain top in December.

  • Save America Susie

    For those complaining that so many died in Iraq during “W”s 8 years, let this amazing fact sink in:

    During America’s CIVIL WAR which last 4 years–half as long–more people were killed than any other war we have EVER been involved in, including WW2.

    650,000 men died in the CIVIL WAR! 350,000in WW2. So any other war seems minor in comparison. Not that people’s deaths are not always sad. Of course, they are! But we’ve had war since time immemorial. As far back in time as we can go! Its part of our human story and the conflict inside men. I doubt we will ever stop that, as long as men as not perfect.

    Where is the MEDIA now when we have 2 wars burning? They are protecting their man in the white house by not reporting the daily death tallies. Keeping the war reports to a minimum. How is that fair reporting?

  • Airangel

    I like this email analogy on how far we’ve come – sheesh!

    Scenario 1:
    Tommy goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck’s gun rack.

    1959 – Vice Principal comes over, looks at Tommy’s shotgun; goes to [his] car and gets [his] shotgun to show [Tommy]

    2009 – School goes into lock down, FBI called, Tommy’s hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers
    ———————————-
    Scenario 2:
    Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

    1959 – Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies

    2009 – Police called and SWAT team arrives — they arrest both Johnny and Mark. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it
    ————————————
    Scenario 3:
    Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.

    1959 – Jeffrey sent to the Principal’s office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again

    2009 – Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The school gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability
    —————————————-
    Scenario 4:
    Billy breaks a window in his neighbor’s car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt

    1959 – Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman

    2009 – Billy’s dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy’s sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy’s mom has an affair with the psychologist
    ————————————-
    Scenario 5:
    Pedro fails high school English.

    1959 – Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college. Pedro becomes a Community organizer. He goes to law school and runs for President

    2009 – Pedro’s cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist — ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro’s English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English..
    ———————————-
    Scenario 6:
    Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant hill..

    1959 – Ants die

    2009 – ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents — and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny’s dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again..
    ————————————–
    Scenario 7:
    Jimmy falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Betty. Betty hugs him to comfort him.

    1959 – In a short time, Jimmy feels better and goes on playing.

    2009 – Betty is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Jimmy undergoes 5 years of therapy

    We’ve really progressed in a positive way haven’t we…

    • JeffH

      Airangel…ain’t it the truth!

    • JC

      Good analogy…and sickeningly true.
      These progressives are a disease…

  • Dale

    Happy Earth Day . . . more nonsense from the lefty fruitcakes. Today is Vladmir Lenins BIRTHDAY . . . the father of the Soviet Union and the Green Movement. This man is also one of the Bamster’s Heros.
    McVeigh’s act was a reaction to the Waco exterminations by the Klinton administration. Now dopy Bill is a critic of free, democratic expression. Could it be STD’s have entered his brain??

  • Charles Heckman

    The spin doctors have been at work again to find an excuse to limit freedom of speech when the speech is reporting crimes committed by our government officials. Take this example. Citizen Jones reports to Citizen Smith, a leader of a political action group in his state, that Homer Fatcat of the Department of Agriculture is allowing his friend, Biggo Business, to steal $5 million per year from a federal program administered by the Department of Agriculture in return for $100,000 worth of nice presents. The Department of Justice arrests Citizen Jones because they allege that his reporting of what the Department of Agriculture is doing will anger his fellow citizens causing them to do violence to some of the bigshot officials taking part in the corruption. While Jones spends the next five years in jail being regularly interrogated using waterboarding and other non-torture methods for terrorists before he gets to go on trial, Homer Fatcat gets $500,000 in bribes from Biggo Business and about $5 million from other friends he helps. Biggo Business gets $25,000,000, and other friends of Homer Fatcat get to pocket $250,000,000 in the hard-earned money the taxpayers paid to the IRS. The taxpayers are then told that the government has no money left, so they have to accept the fact that our veterans wounded in war are not getting the rehabilitation to which the law entitles them, the reduction of the number of lawyers working for the Department of Justice will mean that nobody will do anything about it when a citizen is defrauded out of his or her life savings, retired persons will have to accept the steady loss of inflation-adjusted retirement income because the Social Security Administration is facing bankruptcy, and other federal programs benefitting ordinary citizens will have to be cut.
    Obviously, the whole purpose of our federal government is to make the world a happy and safe place for highly-placed government employees, like Homer Fatcat, and friends of his like Biggo Business. For their good, the First Amendment must be scrapped, and everybody must be gagged to keep them from talking about something that might make another person dissatisfied with the kind of government we have.

  • Rob Alexander

    Little annoys me more than propaganda like this.

    These people are using a false-dilemma type distortion where they pretend someone has to fit into only one of two categories – government loving lackeys who are assumed to be “good guys” or anti-government people who are assumed to be whackos who blow things up to get their political points across.

    Saying all people who hate the morphing of the federal government into an intrusive, all encompassing welfare-nanny state are Oklahoma City bombers is equally as ridiculous as saying all Muslims are terrorists.

    (They don’t actually use the word “all”, but the generalization that most or all non-government lovers are whackos who commit radical acts of violence is definitely implied in the context. One doesn’t become “concerned” about the radical factions associating themselves with a movement unless they see them as reaching a critical-mass percentage of the overall movement.)

    Imagine the reaction if we presented things as one has to be either a Christian, in which case they must be a peaceful good-guy, or a Muslim in which case they must be a radical suicide bomber. They’d go through the roof.

    And how can anyone who examines the facts and circumstances and uses logic and reasoning to form a conclusion NOT see the federal government as “part of a plot to impose ‘one-world government’ on liberty-loving Americans”?

  • BonnieMW

    I think it is very important to understand that The Tea Party groups have held hundreds of rallies and no incidences of violence have occurred. They are very careful to encourage peaceful rallies. I think it is important that we understand that Timothy McVeigh did his act of violence not because of the rallies but because of Janet Reno’s instructions that led to the murdering of innocent women and children. Timothy McVeigh was very mentally ill and he reacted in an unreasonable manner to a bad situation. That should never stop the citizens of our country from peaceful assembly

    • Save America Susie

      Yes, I agree, BONNIE. That was pretty mentally ill for MCVEIGH (or anyone) to kill innocent children in a Pre-school in the “OK” building, just because RENO killed children in WACO. How does that balance out? It doesn’t. You are so right. Rational people are non-violent, unless they are in self-defense mode, or trying to save another innocent life from being killed. However, Vengeance is never right.

  • JeffH

    —–Original Message—–
    From: Pullin, Sharon EDD
    Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:27 PM
    To: undisclosed-recipients
    Subject: WWW 3 Plan

    WORLD WAR III IN THE PLANNING STAGES

    EX President Bush and EX VP Cheney are sitting in a bar. A guy walks in and asks the barman, ‘Isn’t that Bush and Cheney sitting over there?’

    The bartender says, ‘Yep, that’s them.’

    So the guy walks over and says, ‘Wow, this is a real honor! What are you guys doing in here?’

    Bush says, ‘We’re planning WW III.’

    The guy says, ‘Really? What’s going to happen?’

    Cheney says, ‘Well, we’re going to kill 140 million Muslims and one blonde with big boobs..’

    The guy exclaimed, ‘A blonde with big boobs?

    Why kill a blonde with big boobs?’

    Cheney turns to Bush and says, ‘See, I told you, no

    one gives a darn about the 140 million Muslims

  • Jeep

    “I learned that patriotism includes protest…” – John Kerry

    “In politics, an organized minority is a political majority.” – Jesse Jackson

    “White people scare the crap out of me. ” – Michael Moore

    “It appears that there is a genocidal plan against Black people.” – Calypso Louis Farrakhan (see also, “They call them terrorists, I call them freedom fighters.” Oh, and, “Hitler was a great man.”)

    “It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” – Barack Obama, or this gem, “We have real enemies in the world. These enemies must be found. They must be pursued and they must be defeated.”

    It’s funny when the shoe’s on the other foot to see them react…

  • Airangel

    The very fact that Clinton and this muslim CAIR equate the Tea Party protests and the rallying against Government intrusion into our lives is in any way similar to a mental psycho attack like the OKC bombing is pure rubbish! They are just stirring the pot for political gain!

    They would prefer freedom defenders to stand in a bread and water line and take an anti-depressant pill and say “thank you” for the bread and water. I am truly grateful and so glad my Government cares about me and my family…People they are stealing from us more than any big corporation ever could…Everything we have given in taxes, they have grossly mis-managed and stolen it right out from under us by the trillions. Look at Social Security. That should be there for you when you retire. You put the money in. It should be earning interest and give you a nest egg when you retire, so when you’re worn out from barely making it, you can rest a little, but guess what…we will never see it because the government thieves spent it. They are grossly negligent and can’t manage squat! Anyone else in the private sector that managed your money like that would be fired for doing a lousy job! and so they shall be fired in 2010 and 2012!

    • Save America Susie

      Amen !

  • coolpop

    If ONE, just ONE, law is enacted , it will guarantee that we will have a honest government. as follows……….
    Anyone in public office that is sworn to uphold the Constitution and breaks that trust WILL be tried and executed for treason!
    Next, put night vision equipped sharp shooters on Americas borders with orders to shoot all inbound trespassers. Outbound to be ignored ! Problem solved !

  • ONTIME

    There doesn’t seem to be a lot of angst or hand wringing when the left has one of their property damaging, violent outburst like the last one in Seattle or the sign carrying whackos that call everyone and anyone they don’t like every filthy name under the sun or those in the MSM that spew the trash on the left leaning media, Matthews, Garafola, and the internet wing dings that couldn’t tell the truth if their lives depended on it.

    This latest round from the Deemers, whose butts are on the line, is nothing more than panic. The calling ordinary dissent, sedition is nothing like the treason many of these electeds have committed and the evidence is on record to prove it, their validity is worth nothing and they cannot front the credentials for the clown in the POTUS seat because he doesn’t have any.

    • kate8

      Wow, ONTIME. You said it all. Great post.

    • JC

      Right on!

  • Chaos Factor

    BEST BUMPER STICKER I ever saw…… GOD , PLEASE PROTECT US FROM YOUR’E FOLLOWERS……

    • Airangel

      Yes and God, please grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference…and forgive me for wanting to throttle these self serving liberals!

    • JC

      Best Bumper Sticker I ever saw:
      I’ll keep my guns, my money and my freedom, YOU can keep the Change.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JC,
        The best one I saw with the best timing was driving through D.C. right after Obummer got elected. Beam me up Scotty! There’s no intelligent life down here!!!

        • JC

          Funny :)

      • JeffH

        I wear it proudly on my Yukon.

  • Save America Susie

    Our own FOUNDING FATHERS supported our right to protest. Its a form of FREEDOM OF SPEECH. I draw the line at violence. Even the main radio talk Conservatives such as BECK, HANNITY & RUSH are ALL adamantly AGAINST violent protest. You can tune them in any day and heard the truth about that. They can bring out the recordings anytime in a court of law if need be to prove it. I’ve heard them say it many times. So they are definitely NOT advocating any violent protest at all, (which is a lie the extreme left is perpecuating)….Just advocating FREE SPEECH! That’s all we need anyway. That plus VOTING in the next election!

  • And I quote

    Characterizing Weatherman as “an American Red Army,” Ayers summed up the organization’s ideology as follows: “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, Kill your parents.”

    “We are a guerrilla organization. We are communist women and men … deeply affected by the historic events of our time in the struggle against U.S. imperialism.”
    “Our intention is to disrupt the empire, to incapacitate it, to put pressure on the cracks, to make it hard to carry out its bloody functioning against the people of the world, to join the world struggle, to attack from the inside.”
    “The only path to the final defeat of imperialism and the building of socialism is revolutionary war.”
    “Revolutionary war will be complicated and protracted. It includes mass struggle and clandestine struggle, peaceful and violent, political and economic, cultural and military, where all forms are developed in harmony with the armed struggle.”
    “Without mass struggle there can be no revolution.
    Without armed struggle there can be no victory.”
    “We need a revolutionary communist party in order to lead the struggle, give coherence and direction to the fight, seize power and build the new society.” Bill Ayers

    Ayers was an active participant in Weatherman’s 1969 “Days of Rage” riots in Chicago, where nearly 300 members of the organization employed guerrilla-style tactics to viciously attack police officers and civilians alike, and to destroy massive amounts of property via vandalism and arson; their objective was to further spread their anti-war, anti-American message.

  • eddie47d

    Oh,please Susie! You don’t have to be violent to be advocating it. I see and hear it everyday and many times on this site.Tell people what they SHOULD DO and pretty soon someone will oblige them and then deny they ever said anything. It’s just a duck and cover ploy.

    • kate8

      eddie47d,Good grief. Why is it you lefties think people are a mindless mob poised to carry out violence at the slightest hint of dissent from the right?

      It seems to me that this kind of mindlessness is best demonstrated by the left, i.e. swooning over the messiah. Your minions have a long history of inciting and carrying out acts of rage and violence. The left does not recognize self-accountability, preferring to cast blame on something someone else said or did. In fact, this is the premise for your ridiculous hate-speech legislation.

      Each of us, alone, chooses what or what not to do. As such, we must, ourselves, be held to account. Unless someone has a gun to our head, we cannot blame anyone else. This is just a convenient lie to squash free speech.

      It would seem that you on the left lack role models for adulthood. At some point everyone reaches an age of accountability, when we can no longer make excuses for ourselves and need to own up to our mistakes.
      Teaching self-accountability to our young is the only way we are going to stop this demeaning of our humanity as a tactic by the left.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        kate8,
        could the reason for them to think this is because they look in the mirror each day????

        • kate8

          Astute observation, Joe H.

          Someone recently made the comment that you can always know what the liberal left is up to by what they are accusing the right of doing.

  • eddie47d

    Time on 4/21; Your hatred for liberals is apparent,so what. Your sleazy comments on how the liberals were violent and love killing is a far stretch. Most of the killings in the 60′s involved liberals being killed (Kent State,SLA,weathermen in New York blowing themselves up).They were amateurs unlike McVeigh who went to a far greater extreme to prove his right wing feelings. YOU love your slanted on-sided stories. I believe that all this anti-government talk of 2010 and being ready with lots of guns and ammo speaks volumes. If you want to wear this “talk” on your sleeve then take responsibility for it.

    • Airangel

      Eddie, what is one-sided? Are you saying liberals have no faults? No evil inclinations? No past exhibitions of anger and hatred? Really? You’re all above reproach? I guess that depends on who is in office and what the cause is? huh?…Do you forget the anti-war protests when Bush was in office? the Weather Underground, the Blank Panthers, or the Symbionese Liberation Army…you have selective memory…everyone and I mean EVERYONE that has stood for something has passionately protested and let their voice be heard…some individuals on BOTH sides have been a little more vocal than the norm and you can’t even compare an extremist like Tim McVeigh as he was mentally challenged as have been many linked to killings (all psychotic behavior and on psych drugs) so keep it real!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Little eddie,
        Look up who started the poster of Obummer as the joker. See what party they were affiliated with. It’s real easy, just google Obamma poster as Joker. do this then tell me only the conservatives have these thoughts!!!

  • Bob from Socal

    All of you are falling into the trap that has been laid. None of the elites in Washington are to be trusted. You need to go several steps past the the presidency to see what is actually going on here. They, and when I say they I mean the New World Order, are using PsyOps tricks on you getting you to bicker with eachother. In the mean time they are proceeding at breakneck speed with their plans. What they are currently doing is trying to bankrupt this country. Once it is bankrupt they will walk in and take whatever property and resources they want. If the public acts out they will enact Martial Law and sick Northcom and the 400,000 foreign troops that are currently in this country on the unwitting public. Even if the public doesn’t act out they will stage False Flag terrorist attacks in this country and once again Martial law can be enacted. If you don’t think this is being set up right now, do as much homework you can on the FEMA camps that are already ready. They have millions of coffins stored for us as I write. They now have the right to arrest you for nothing to incarcerate you permately or kill you all without a trial or disclosure. Everyone do your homework. Time is running out. Maybe if we can expose these thugs we can slow them down or stop them. I fear its to late.

    • JeffH

      FEMA And REX 84,Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs.
      Once a major disaster occurs (whether it is a real event or manufactured event) martial law is hurriedly put in place and we are all in the hands of the government agencies (FEMA) who thus portray themselves as our protectors. Yet what happens when we question those in authority and how they are taking away all of our freedoms? Will we be the ones detained in these camp sites? And who are they going to round up? Those with guns? Those who ask questions? Those that want to know what’s really going on? Does that include any of us? The seekers of truth?

      http://uweb.txstate.edu/~lf14/conspire/rex84.html

      • JeffH

        Congress is kept away from Rex 84 FEMA camp Martial Law plan
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_gD25lwjAk&feature=related

      • JeffH

        “The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.” ~John Stewart Mill

        Lately there have been an unprecedented number of natural disasters and political upheavals in the United States. The thoughts and beliefs of the majority of Americans have been challenged. Their emotions stand at a precipice teetering back and forth between stability and thoughts of paranoia and dread.

        Critical masses of people have awakened to the realization that perhaps it is time to take a long last look at the America we once knew. It is time we understood that the America of the present is no longer the America of the past, and the future, while under the control of madmen, may become far more frightening than we realize.

        The United States just barely understands the fragility of its existence.

        FEMA is still in operation because it did nothing wrong. FEMA was not created to respond to natural disasters. FEMA’s true purpose is to maintain continuity of government during and after a national emergency. It also has the power to suspend the Constitution and declare martial law during any crisis—real or perceived.

        FEMA has broad powers in every aspect of the nation in times of crisis or emergency and has been called “The Shadow Government.”

        The Washington Post reported that Granite Shadow is yet another new Top Secret and compartmentalized operation related to the military’s extra-legal powers regarding the policing of American citizens. It allows for emergency military operations in the United States without civilian supervision or control.

        The report outlines the preparations for martial law takeover in the U.S. It is alleged that the Granite Shadow is an unclassified name for a classified contingency plan where deployments of “special mission units” will take place in Washington, D.C. and other domestic areas where a real or perceived crisis is taking place.

        These “special mission units” include the so-called Delta Force, SEAL teams, Rangers, and other special units of the Joint Special Operations Command.

        It is also proposed that Granite Shadow conduct domestic military operations, including intelligence collection and surveillance, unique rules of engagement regarding the use of lethal force, the use of experimental non-lethal weapons, and federal and military control of incident locations that are highly controversial and might border on the illegal.

        The military would be used as a police force to enforce the state’s order, asking for the surrender of any firearms or survival supplies, among other commodities. The state government would then have the right to impose fines and penalties to enforce its orders.

        This is all covered with the recent revelation of the Granite Shadow exercise.
        The Seven Revolutions

        The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), a think tank run by Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski among others, has produced a list of seven trends that will challenge world leaders and cause change until 2025.

        Called the “Seven Revolutions,” it lists as priorities one and two, population growth and resource management.
        Listed in full, The Seven Revolutions are:

        1. Population Control

        2. Resource Management

        3. Technology

        4. Information and Knowledge Flow

        5. Economic Integration

        6. Conflict

        7. Governance

        “Each of these revolutions,” wrote the CSIS, “embodies both promise and peril and it is up to every one of us to determine the trajectory that these revolutionary forces will follow.”

        It all certainly makes one suspicious about what is truth and what is fiction.

        • JeffH

          The Harm Principle – FEMA Unmasked
          http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20051211.htm

          • kate8

            JeffH, that is chilling.

            What really stunned me was that they will confiscate our food and survival supplies. Why? Just so we starve? So it’s of no use to prepare?

            I knew they were demonic, but I hadn’t thought about them going this far.

            Truly, the gates of Hell have been thrown open.

            But God says of His people, the gates of Hell shall not prevail against them…

          • JC

            Arm up.

  • eddie47d

    Kate 8, So your another FEMA death camp conspirator? I suppose your re-writing the new history books in Texas too?

    • Airangel

      Eddie don’t be so closed minded about things. You might truly be surprised the the world you are holding onto will shatter…

      There are 600+ prison camps in the United States ready to receive
      prisoners today. They are staffed and surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency)when Martial Law needs to be implemented in the United States. If a national emergency is declared, ALL personal rights and freedoms cease!

      FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and will head up all operations. Existing Presidential Executive Orders are part of this operation. The camps all have railroads and roads, and many have an airport nearby. Most can house 20,000 prisoners. The one in Alaska can hold up to 2 million!

      There were about 100 black railroad cars manufactured in Oregon outfitted with shackles. FEMA spent 6 million upgrading the 1995 Amtrak facility in Indiana with air vents and to make sure the chambers are airtight. The 600 + empty prisons are all manned and patrolled…why do you suppose they need to maintain all these empty prisons if there is no one to guard?..If our prisons are so overcrowded, why not use these? What will institute a call for emergency in order for FEMA to step in? Maybe they want a revolution and that’s why they’re pitting us against each other to enforce martial law….hmmmm…If you don’t believe it, check it out…3 camps are right in Southern California. San Fernando Valley, Brand Park in Glendale and Palmdale, CA.

      • kate8

        Good work, Airangel.

        From what I’ve been able to glean, they’re preparing for something soon.

      • JeffH

        Pearblossom Operations and Maintenance Subcenter Receiving Department, 34534 116th Street East, Palmdale, CA

      • JeffH

        Oliver North Questioned – Rex 84 Exposed During Iran Contra
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug0IL7k3elQ

      • JeffH

        The fact that these camps exist and weren’t used during the Katrina disaster is what I find disturbing. There are questions that need to be answered about FEMA response to the Katrina disaster.

        The severity of the disaster called into question the entire enterprise of federal involvement in natural hazard protection. “Emergency management suffers from . . . a lack of clear measurable objectives, adequate resources, public concern or official commitments. . . . Currently, fema is like a patient in triage. The president and Congress must decide whether to treat it or to let it die.”

        The above criticisms pertain not, as one might expect, to fema’s recent woes in New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina but to the agency’s dilatory response to Hurricane Andrew, which devastated South Florida in 1992. After Andrew, Congress gave the agency an ultimatum: Make major improvements or be abolished. With the advice of the emergency management profession and an enterprising director, James Lee Witt, the agency underwent one of the most remarkable turnarounds in administrative history. In 1997, Bill Clinton called it one of the “most popular agencies in government.” FEMA was well regarded by experts, disaster victims and its own employees. By 2005, however, the agency had once again fallen into ignominy.
        http://www.hoover.org/publications/policyreview/3402076.html

        There over 600 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States.

        The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a mass exodus of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

        Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

        The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.

        • kate8

          Concise and informative, JeffH, as usual.

          You’ve really been busy.

          • JeffH

            Lots more where that came from.

        • Al Sieber

          Right on!!!! eddie47d if don’t believe it goggle civilian inmate labor camp. Army Times.

  • Save America Susie

    “Me thinks thou dost protest too much”….some people are just full of anger, and do not listen to any words one might say.

    • Claire

      Save America Susie: You speak the truth, I agree with you 100%.

  • eddie47d

    God grief Kate 8 your in such denial. Go back and read Big Bad John’s long list. If the Liberals are nasty then expose them. The same should go for the nasty hate comments from the Right. Are you willing to be fair or have you spun out of orbit?

    • kate8

      Nope, eddie. Just didn’t see anything that I’d call hateful.

      These are not hateful people. Especially when taken in context, the statements are not hateful. Most are simply the truth, but in you lib’s PC world, the truth may not be spoken if it’s something you don’t like.

      Hateful speech, in my mind, is just malicious, and with the sole intent to ridicule, discredit, or deride unjustly and unfairly. The truth is simply the truth, and can’t be called “hate” by any reasonable person.

    • kate8

      What I do call hate speech is the way the left is trying to set conservatives up as a terror group. Expressing fear that the Tea Parties and militia groups are going to kill people and so on, painting them as right-wing loose cannons…that is malicious, hateful and untrue. It is also a way to blame them if something happens (a false flag event).

      Hateful and despicable. And a tool of tyrants.

      • Save America Susie

        I agree Kate8. There has only be peaceful gathering. And the they are people of all colors and creeds.They just don’t want “Big Brother”.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        kate8,
        I forgot one by not looking at my lists and they are longer than what I am writting here, believe me. The preacher saying that the whites are setting up Obummer to be killed. Now tell me THAT isn’t hate speech!!!

        • kate8

          Joe H. And I have no doubt that they’ve gotten together on a plan here, since they’re all parroting each other, as usual. Saturate the public with scare stories about how the right is volatile and ready to blow something up, and then blow something up and blame it on the right. Standard commie tactic.

          This administration is dangerous, and they’re out of control. That’s why, if large numbers of people know what they’re up to, it won’t work.

          • eyeswideopen

            kate8 and who is walking around with their guns on their backs? What Congress person is calling for Michigan to have a armed and dangerous citizenry? Who is telling people to LOCK N LOAD showing a bulleye in her ad? The only people talking about revolution is one your side. I am waiting for the Christian preachers to come out against this type of speech, and then maybe you all will stop. Or maybe if it is one of your kids who gets hurt, maybe you will stop then. But probably not, conservatives never take responsibility for their own actions, it is always the left’s fault for anything that goes wrong in your lives. Those darn dems, must sit right on your shoulders and make all those crappy decisions that you have to live with. Too funny

          • kate8

            ewo, that’s about one of the dumbest postings I’ve read all day.
            You must be tired, dear.

        • Claire

          JoeH — The sad thing is that there are enough nuts out there that will attempt it.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Claire,
            If that is true then inciting it from his own side doesn’t help a thing!!! They are trying to have it happen so that martial law CAN be declared and the innocent people put under armed guard!!! Remember the old saying: just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean they AREN’T out to get you!!!

  • eddie47d

    Airangel;Loved your earlier scenerios. You got a little testy with my comments directed to TIME so I was keeping it real according to his statements. Not all liberals are self serving anymore than conservatives can be. I work at a food ministry and do labor work at my church once a week.I also babysit my grandson 4 days a week and give to 35 charities not including political. I live on a pension but strongly believe in helping my neighbor and giving back.

  • eddie47d

    Cribster;SPLC is a great organization and exposes criminal hatred on all sides. They expose alot of dirt on race haters,mostly neo-nazi’s and kkk followers but also black racists. They are no friend of Louis Farrekann. So stop spreading your falsehoods.

  • BonnieMW

    Airangle. I love your analogy but I do think it goes the other direction also. 1959 a girl has an affair with her teacher everyone blames girl. 2009 Teacher is fired. 1959 Father abuses children mother has no where to go so stays and child grows up to be a serial killer (True Story) 2009 Mother leaves husband get welfares goes to college gets a degree and mother and children stay together and no
    longer have to live with abuse. I am definitely not for a welfare state but sometimes it is necessary and it is a good thing that people have somewhere to go. It should be the job of the churches and community but they have fallen down on the job so the government has pick-up the slack at a very costly expenses to all tax payers.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Bonnie,
      how about the man that grew up with gay “parents” and grew up confused to the point he thought he was a woman trapped in a mans body and had change surgery and afterwards realized he made a mistake and committed suicide because he couldn’t reverse the surgery? Also very true!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        JoeH, please oh, please post a link showing that one.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          google it!!

  • kate8

    “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense, and shows everyone how stupid he is.

    “If a ruler’s anger rises against you, do not leave your post; calmness can lay great errors to rest.” Ecc. 10:2-4.

  • kate8

    “DC Knows Obama Is Ineligible for Office”.

    They’re just wondering how long it will take most Americans to figure it out, and try to figure out what they can do about it.

    An outrage.

    http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/22221

    • JeffH

      Another interesting commentary on the birth issue. $2,000,000 taxpayer dollars spent to protect the information that could stop the question from being asked. Sounds anti-American to me.

      • kate8

        This whole situation is just too bizarre.

        This administration is just keeping it coming at us fast and furious. They want us totally mind-boggled. It’s impossible to try to make sense of it because there is no sense in it, except to keep us stressed out and battling windmills while they finish installing their new “government” where the people no longer matter.

        I still think our best chance is to keep searching out the truth. We may not always get it right, but I think we’re pretty close.

        • JeffH

          Ypu’re absolutley right…keep searching, exchange thoughts and information. Never give up!

          • JeffH

            You’re…oops

        • JeffH

          Barack Hussein Obama is not happy! When his taxpayer paid U. S. Department of Justice (“DOJ”) attorneys walked into court on October 5, 2009, expecting United States Federal District Court Judge David Carter to immediately dismiss the birth certificate case, he did not get his way! Their legal arguments were hollow and unconvincing.
          According to the DOJ Attorneys: The President is above the Law and the Courts!
          Monday, October 5, 2009, at 8:30 a.m., in California, was a critical milestone for our entire legal and public relations effort to force Barack Obama to produce his birth certificate, as well as other documents, to prove whether he is eligible to serve as President of the United States

          The Judge raised issues critical to our case:
          1. Did U.S. Senators question the eligibility of Mr. Obama? (Only USJF was able to tell the Court that Senators Coburn and Shelby and a number of House of Representative members had done so.)

          2. Were objections made by Members of Congress when the vote of the Electoral College was certified? (Only USJF was able to tell the Court that NO, then Vice-President Cheney had not performed his required duty of asking for objections, so there could have been none raised.)
          When Barack Obama officially entered the office of President, he became, in essence, apparently, a “pretender to the throne.” According to the Constitution, only a “natural born citizen” can occupy the presidency.

          Even though he was sworn in on January 20, 2009, Barack Obama is NOT legally the President of the United States, unless he can prove that he is a “natural born citizen.”

          • JeffH

            What they don’t know is how long it will take for most Americans to figure it out, or what to do about it.

            The diversionary search for an authentic birth certificate is ongoing and Obama has now spent in excess of $2 million in legal fees to keep that search alive.

            Eric Holder’s Department of Justice continues to deploy taxpayer funded attorneys around the country to file dismissals on behalf of Obama, denying all American citizens access to the courts as a peaceful remedy, which only fuels the fire of discontent and the questions about Obama persist.

      • eyeswideopen

        Jeffie, prove it cost that much….post a link, big boy….

        • kate8

          ewo, it’s posted all over the internet, anywhere carrying articles about this issue.

        • kate8

          Actually, you can find it in the link I posted above, CanadaFreePress.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            kate8,
            careful there. Now if ole’ googleeyes can’t find it she will tell you it never happened, cause if SHE can’t find it nobody can!! They don,t call her GOOGLEeyes for nothing!!

      • JeffH

        The basic difference between being assertive and being aggressive is how our words and behavior affect the rights and well being of others.

  • Gary

    After reading all the nutsos on the left I can see the public schools have done their job that the commies wanted them to do.You people are whackos.

  • Allan

    A number of liberals in this thread are perplexed by the fact that conservatives would chose to be conservative. That choice could be explained by the following information, which comes primarily from the National Science Foundation General Social Survey, which has analyzed Republican and Democrat demographics since 1972.

    Republicans:

    Have more money
    Have more friends
    Are more religious
    Are healthier
    Are more likely to be married
    Like their communities better
    Like their jobs more
    Are more satisfied with their family life
    Like the weather better
    Have fewer financial worries
    Are more likely to see themselves doing better in life than their parents did
    Are more likely to feel that individuals — rather than outside forces — control their own success or failure
    Have more of what they most value in life (other than money)

    By the way, a 2008 PEW Research survey found that the average household income of Republicans is $64,000, and the average for Democrat households is $46,000.

    So my question, how are you “better off” being a Democrat?

    • eyeswideopen

      Allan, prove it, post a link. Could it be that the repubs sending their children to those liberal schools, taught by those liberal teachers is paying off??? Too funny. You can’t post a link, cause it is not true. But if you post one, I will post the one from the Bureau of Labor, which disproves yours. So, come on big boy, lets see your link…. Do you know the difference in the median and average ??

      • Allan

        Tell ya what, you google the income of democrats vs republicans and see what you find. Multiple surveys and studies show a financial gap, a charitiable donation gap, and a happiness gap. This is probably good news to liberals because I think they need to feel miserable and that life is unfair. Yes, to earn a graduate degree, one generally has to know what a statistical mean is. The characteristics of Democrats I referred to are also consistent with what I saw as an employer in the IT sector for more than 20 years. Plus, in my experience, liberal employees had the most absenteeism, most abused sick day/personal time off policies, and felt more entitled to raises based on seniority than performance. With this experience in mind, I’d bet that if everything was divided up tomorrow between liberals and conservatives, liberals would be worse off in a year, and more resentful than ever. It’s a mindset. By the way, I don’t think Claire should hold her breath expecting you to vote for a Republican.

  • Yankee Will

    Since when does CAIR give a hoot about what the rest of us think? Sounds like they are hoping something happens again. It would take the spotlight off them. And when the honest, everyday American is trying to survive the government supported aftermath onslaught, they come around and flank Joe American, and cut his throat.

  • http://gmail i41

    Bonnie, 1960′s wife getting beating from lazy assed husband, brother or male cousin takes said abuser out in front yard and gives him a good severe beating , with beating done was given a word of advice, don’t beat on your spouse or create another problem or hit anyone or,
    I come back and give you a real thumping. The husband never beats wife again and they stay married for another 40 years. 2010,woman gets beaten, brother comes over and cops are called, brother goes to jail, wife gets restraining order, husband goes to anger management 4 weeks later comes back, breaks restraining order, kills woman and children. 4 lawyers get a couple of taxpayers jobs. I see the ACORN leader is saying a young democrat and a socialist is OK. Obammee was an ACORN organizer and advisor, so now we all know Obamee and the democrats are all socialist progressives.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

    The peaceful propaganda that CAIR is putting out to the American Christians doesn’t ring true if you read the Koran or watch some of the recorded speeches CAIR’s American director has made before he reached the position he now holds. They are 180 degrees opposite of what he espouses now. The Koran commands pious Muslims to engage in a holy war (Jihad) in order to impose Islam and Shariah law on the entire world.

    Koran 9:5
    “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them,
    take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush
    them using every strategem of war.”

    Muslims teach that all religions must be converted to Islam, and if they can’t, then they must be destroyed. These are facts and if you don’t believe them, then go out and buy an English Koran and educate yourself. There are many beautiful things in it but there is also a whole lot of intolerance and violence in it. The goal of all Muslims is to convert the entire world to Islam, and the ones who don’t must be killed. The Muslims are right now trying to over-populate Europe. They are at 50% of the populatin in England right now, and in France, Germany, and Spain it is projected that they will be above 50% in just thirty years. This probably doesn’t bother many Americans, but you better wake up, because they also have bought twelve large land areas in the United States and have built compounds and populated them with other Muslims with the sole purpose of increasing as fast as possible their numbers of American born Muslims with American citizenship and are training their off-spring at an early age in these compounds on how to wage war with assault weapons.
    Do not believe me, just investigate for yourself, it’s all out there for the finding. One of these compounds is just outside Atlanta, and another in up-state New York. Please remember the American born Muslim Major Nidal Malik Hassan who killed 13 of his soldier comrades and wounded another 30 at Ft Hood. If America doesn’t wake up and quit listening to CAIR’s propaganda and start investigating for themselves and buy a Koran and read it to educate yourselves, these things will sneak up on you when it’s to late to do anything to stop it. Twelve compounds on American soil, investigate and find out for yourself. The sheriff’s departments and police forces near these compounds will let you know what they hear going on in these compounds, just investigate for yourself and find out the truth.

  • kate8

    Reading these posts each day, it seems to me like the libs take a major beating on a daily basis. I have to wonder what drives them to keep coming back for more. They must be getting paid for it.

    Maybe it’s good that they do, since they make us aware of the kind of irrational thinking we are up against. Keeps us on our toes.

    I sure wouldn’t go on a lefty blogsite. Those guys are brutal.

    • JeffH

      kate8, prior to me discovering this website, I made the mistake of joining MSNBC’s Newvine…It was brutal..this site is a church social compared to that one. I lasted less than a week before I was banned.
      Just as well though. There are some very good American patriots here.

      • kate8

        Jeff, you were banned? They don’t allow other viewpoints?

        This is great.

        • JeffH

          Yep, they canceled my account because I chose to speak up and defend myself from the liberal name calling and liberal liars. I’ve learned plenty since those days.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            I haven’t found a lib site yet that will allow a disenting opine!!! Every conservative site I have been on will allow them. This is not to say the posters will suffer them, just that the sites will allow them!!

          • JeffH

            I have found them utterly disgusting, full of haters and name callers, way beyond this site. If you’re a conservative or Tea Party participant…it’s like atrip through hades.

  • Claire

    Hey–whats this I hear Newt Gingrich said about the tea parties. Anyone hear it? It wasn’t very nice.

    • eyeswideopen

      Claire, he stated that the tea Party will be the militia of the republican party. No big deal. He was just stating the facts as he sees them.

      • Claire

        Eyes–What do you mean no big deal? To me it is, it just goes to show that the Repubs are no better than the Dems–especially if a person wants to get technical.

        • eyeswideopen

          Claire, the Tea Party movement has been good for this country. Newt, sees it as a threat. His opinion is not relevant as he is a “has been” and he had his chance for glory and screwed it up. The republicans are smart enough to not place too much importance on what he thinks. I think the Tea Party has now been hijacked by the conservative think tanks and they are now just another hollow organization. But when they first started, they had revelance, and I even went to some meetings to check it out. Now they are just carrying the message for the repubs. You are right the repubs are no better than the dems. Look for individuals, not parties, to vote for. I am picking middle of the road. Someone who thinks, and doesn’t just vote for a specific party line. Someone who can change depending on the circumstances and what is required. Of course they must be clean from scandal and personally accountable on how they spend their own money, if they are going to spend mine. Rubio, here in Fl, is now out of my good graces.

          • Claire

            eyes–Yes, Rubio sounds like a shyster. My friend in Florida sure does not like him. What do you think of Crist? I hear he may run on an Independent ticket.
            The tea parties? Yes, it appears that the Repubs are taking them over more and more. They sure are in my town.

          • eyeswideopen

            Claire, it is between Crist, Rubio and Meek. I will have to go for Crist if he runs on an independent ticket. I don’t really like what he has done with our state, but he is honest and doesn’t lie, lives within his means and usually will be on the side of the citizens.

          • Claire

            eyes–My friend will vote for Crist. I rather liked the guy. I would vote for him too.

          • marvin

            EYEWIDEOPEN HERE IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF CRIST were to run as a ind then you have a 3 way vote crist ind rubio repub meek dem and meek will win for crist will take votes from rubio not trying to tell you how to vote but one of them need to get out or most likly they both lose i have saw this over the years and the dems love it,h. reid in nev was tryed to put a so called tea party can to run aginest him and the repub if that happens reid will win without the third party reid is way behind and will most likely lose just something to think about i can not vote for ether and like them both crist/rubio some times you have to hold your nose and vote or you get someone like obama it,s not fair but life an,t fair

          • marvin

            i am a repub and a tea party mem and heritage foundation and numbersusa member and the only time i have ever voted one party was in 2008 i could see what was coming and did not like it been there and done that obama well be like carter i have eyes to see and ears to hear and get news from more then just fox my rep in congress is a dem and so far is doing a good job as a rep and will most likly vote for him in nov i am not a far right nut case i am more conserative then some and think that a helping hand is good and a handout is bad[makes you laze and dependent and easy to control] i do not need help to spend what little money i have if you ask i will try to help you but do not demand anything that is mine i belive in god famly and my country and will not stand by and let stuped money hungry crooks or my goverment give my country away to people that have no respect for the law or you or me and if that makes me unamerican like[pelosie and the liberals say] sign me up

          • libertytrain

            eyes – I don’t think Newt sees the Tea Party movement as a threat but rather a lost opportunity for him to regain his stature. I read something interesting on Michelle Malkin’s blog regarding Newt as well-

          • eyeswideopen

            Marvin, I vote for who will do the better job. Rubio, is all about Rubio, we had him as speaker of House, and he thought that he could order a limo and flowers for his wife to travel in, because she was the first lady of the House. We Floridians didn’t even know there was such a position, that we needed to fork over money for. He started up some PAC’s and used the money to live on. He has done many shady deals and just this year he became a conservative. You should have seen our state budget when he was speaker. It sure wasn’t conservative by any means. He is a hypocrite and is conning the older people in the state.

  • marvin

    i just got thru looking at the voting record on immigration for all states 98% of the repubs sen and reps had a c or better, and 98% of dems sen and reps had a 98% c or below voting on immigration that should tell you who is taking care of the american people were job are concerned an A IS BEST AND F- IS BAD

    • eyeswideopen

      Marvin, for years after Reagan granted 3.2 million amnesty, nobody has wanted to address the immigration issue. It is cheap labor for the fortune 500 companies and that is why the repubs didn’t do it when they had the chance for 11 years. This is a hot potato and neither party wants to fix it. However Obama doesn’t really care about his party getting re-elected and he is willing to sacrifice his own to get what he wants, and that is security for this country. We would have been better off, building factories in Mexico and buying from them instead of China, and the immigrants would have all had jobs and stayed home. It will get done, so get prepared for the blood shed.

  • kate8

    There have been lots of factories built in Mexico. Many things come from there now.

    Jobs isn’t the only reason these illegals come here. Illegal drugs, freebies, to have anchor babies, and not to mention they want to take over our country through sheer numbers.

    You think Obama wants security for this country? Why? Because he said so? The same Obama that hasn’t told the truth since he said he wanted to “fundamentally change America”?

    Obama is a global corporatist. He’s for doing away with borders and forming the NWO, the same as the rest of the elites. He’s basically given an invitation to any foreign nationals who want to come here and wreak terror without fear of reprisal.

    He places us in greater danger every day.

    • JeffH

      The Obama administration has just issued a new one that “includes significant changes to the U.S. nuclear posture,” said Defense Secretary Bob Gates. First among these involves the U.S. response to being attacked with biological or chemical weapons.

      Under President Obama’s new policy, however, if the state that has just attacked us with biological or chemical weapons is “in compliance with the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT),” explained Gates, then “the U.S. pledges not to use or threaten to use nuclear weapons against it.”

      Apart from being morally bizarre, the Obama policy is strategically loopy. Does anyone believe that North Korea or Iran will be more persuaded to abjure nuclear weapons because they could then carry out a biological or chemical attack on the U.S. without fear of nuclear retaliation?

      The naivete is stunning. Similarly the Obama pledge to forswear development of any new nuclear warheads, indeed, to permit no replacement of aging nuclear components without the authorization of the president himself. This under the theory that our moral example will move other countries to eschew nukes
      http://mnprager.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/world-peace-threatened-as-obama-weakens-americas-ability-to-defend-itself/

      Imagine the scenario: Hundreds of thousands are lying dead in the streets of Boston after a massive anthrax or nerve gas attack. The president immediately calls in the lawyers to determine whether the attacking state is in compliance with the NPT. If it turns out that the attacker is up-to-date with its latest IAEA inspections, well, it gets immunity from nuclear retaliation. (Our response is then restricted to bullets, bombs and other conventional munitions.)

      However, if the lawyers tell the president that the attacking state is NPT noncompliant, we are free to blow the bastards to nuclear kingdom come

      • JeffH

        World Peace Threatened As Obama Weakens America’s Ability To Defend Itself

    • eyeswideopen

      Kate, you are a nut case. Mexico offers healthcare to their citizens and in 2011 it will be totally Universal healthcare. The factories we have there are Car factories. They don’t come here for drugs, do you not get it that the drugs come from Mexico? They come for jobs.
      Obama really wants this country to fail??? What then? What country do you think he will ship his children off too? If this country fails, he won’t be the one the Corporations put in charge, sweetie, you need to study anarchy a little more. The idea that Obama wants us to fail is just ridiculous and it is a repub/conservative talking point, that makes no sense. But you just keep buying into that radical stuff and try and come up with what Obama would do if it does fail. Can’t wait to hear your fantastic ideas.

    • JeffH

      kate8, unlike others, I noticed you mentioned nothing about Mexican Health Care.

      • JeffH

        US mexican offshore manufacturers are called maquiladora with world class quality standards by getting successfully established in Mexico with the American Industries from the Aerospace, Automotive, Appliances, Electric-Electronics, Medical, among many more industries

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JeffH,
          Unlike google, I realised that kate8 meant that they came here to bring the drugs to the states. but then I’m not as dense as google!!!

          • JeffH

            JoeH…blind in one eye and can’t see out of the other

    • JeffH

      kate8, I also noticed that you mentioned illegal drugs, which both you and I know means illegal drug smugglers bringing in illegal drugs.
      There are some that get so giddy to jump on your back they don’t even understand your comment was about illegal drugs importation by illegals.

  • marvin

    this country is going to hell in a hand basket my goverment saz if two white people beat up a black or a mexican it a hate crime if that happens to a white sorry just an assult a black man working for obama in the fcc said white people in power need to step down so minority and gays can get there job ,under the gise of best and brightes are goverment hands out over 1 million h1 visa cards a year plus 50,000 visa card lottery a year on top of the 20 million illegals allready here just as quick as a illegal girl can have a baby she will and are goverment will take care of them fastest growing population[mexican] in country i say arrest detain deport and don,t break up a famly send there kid with them

  • eddie47d

    Kate8 and airangel; America has hundreds of prisons because we incarcerate more than 2.5 million every year. The highest rate in the world. Some are old and some have been abandoned but all have security guards patrolling them.The FEMA Camp myth has been debunked years ago. At least in the context your referring to. Even Glenn Beck who read these conspiracy stories and believed it did an about face and denied that they are FEMA Death Camps. That was on his show in the early fall.Back in 1969 when I was stationed at Ft. Carson there was a security program just set up called Garden Plot. The same one Jeff H. mentioned but forgot to tell you it was started under Richard Nixon. Which was deliberate on his part to make you think it was Obama’s doing. We all know how paranoid Nixon was and he had all kinds of names for his opponents.So some of you need to check your fair and balanced meter. All Presidents have security programs in place so chill out.I served under the Nixon years and didn’t freak out like you all.

    • JeffH

      eddie47d, back up a little bit my not so dear friend…” Jeff H. mentioned but forgot to tell you it was started under Richard Nixon. Which was deliberate on his part to make you think it was Obama’s doing.”
      You might want to rethink that comment then rephrase it again. I don’t believe I made any references about it being started by Obama. Quite the contrary. Just follow the links…I don’t have to resort to the same lies and deception that you and your pals find so rewarding.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      eddie-duh,
      JeffH gave a link. the link said that they were started pre- Obummer!!! If you could read you would know that!! Wait why am I posting to you when you obviously can’t???

  • June Gagnon

    Heads up, everyone – -Your stocks “may” be up at this point, but that won’t last very long! As for the “tax cut”, in your paycheck – -have you stopped to check the amount of “additional taxes” you’re currently paying, for just about everything you buy?? Nope? – -thought not and if obummer has his way, we’ll all be paying VAT (value added tax) very soon; along with RE taxes, gas taxes, registrations, etc – -you will see 90% or 95% of you earned income evaporate. You’ve noticed the unemployment rate has not budged off 9.7% in months (and it won’t)?? The economy IS NOT getting better at any appreciable rate. You can “thank” THE BUM for betraying his oath of office, doing his level best to DESTROY OUR CONSTITUTION (not protect it, or the USA! I still believe, firmly, he is ANTI- AMERICAN AND INELIGIBLE TO BE IN THE OVAL OFFICE. THROW THE BUM OUT!!

  • Jimmy

    Let us not forget that Obama is multiracial not Black, not White, not Asian. If I am a racist, for making comments about the shortfalls that I feel Obama has, which race am I hating?

    • Claire

      Jimmy–I am German, Danish, Swedish and Irish. I guess I could be called multiracial too. Since Obama is half white and half black, the choice would be his to call? If I were half white and half black, I don’t really know what I would put on a census form. I guess I’d pick the one I preferred, I don’t know. It is rather awkward.
      And you have the right to post what you want, we all do whether others like it or not. Think of it this way–we are all here to debate the issues at hand. And we all have differences in opinions and if we disagree with one another, then so be it. That is what freedom of speech is all about.

      • JeffH

        Claire, I’m German and Heinz 57 variety.

        • Claire

          JeffH—We are quite a mixture!! I guess I could have put down anything! BUT, a big but, we are American first and foremost!

          • JeffH

            That is what I wrote in my census form…American

  • eddie47d

    Jeff H. I’ll stand by what I said. You need to state the facts up front and stop implying differently. We know how gullible Kate 8 and airangel are.

    • JeffH

      eddie47d, stand anywhere you please, that is your choice. I stand that you have twisted my post and I did not err in my delivery nor did I imply differently…I simply posted as it is…paranoia mind destroia…

      To Err Is Human, To Forgive Divine…I forgive you

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JeffH,
        “to err is human. but why does eddie-duh have to be so damn human????

        • JeffH

          Joe H., as usual, no response.

    • JeffH

      eddie47d, I’ll add that had you chosen to examine the links I left vs coming to your own conclusion, you might have come out with a different view, although at this point I doubt you would be able to acknowledge your error.
      That is why I leave links…so what I post can be compared to my referances, thustly anyone can come to their own conclusions.

      All I want is an honest constitutional government by the people and for the people. You’re smart enough, I think, to realize that there are people/organizations outside of our govenment corrupting the world economy, peace trying to push their powers into a One World Government. Some call it paranoid conspiracy theories, I happen to believe, through much research, that it is true. That is my choice to make in this free society, while we still have it. Obama and the “socialist minded” politicians must be stopped, at all costs in order for us to reverse the destruction taking place here in America.
      Don’t for one minute believe that I think Obama started all of this…he happens to be the man delivering the goods now. That is a fact and a reality. To stop him, an intelligent vote must take place in November, otherwise kiss your and my freedoms, as we have known them, goodbye forever.

  • http://mog7@cox.net Muriel P. Goyette

    The “left” only reports the lies they can fabricate about the Tea Party. We, on the other hand, give them far far too much press.
    Emphasize what their colors really are…..Clinton faultfinding? He’s lucky not to have been divested of his citizenship.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    DON’T BLAME US!! We’re not anarchists!! If liberals/democraps want to know who’s responsible for current anti-government feelings, they need only look in the mirror!! Whether a person supports the tea parties or not, he/she should ask a question: why blame anything on the (peaceful/civil) Tea Parties? And the (mostly democrap) politicians should ask likewise. The politicians should blame themselves!! If they weren’t thumbing their noses at our Constitution and governing so much against the will of the American people, there’d be no need for the Tea Party activities we’ve seen over the past 15 months. Most Americans should know by now that Tea Partiers are civil, peaceful and tidy. Of course, with the leftists in power now, staying peaceful may become more difficult as the leftwing democraps may soon push the American people too far. Look at what is happening in Greece too!! LET’S HOPE OUR COUNTRY WON’T GET TO THAT POINT!!

  • Thomas G Kroger

    When will Morris Dees of SPLC do the world a favor by dropping dead?

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