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Republicans Form A Circular Firing Squad

January 16, 2012 by  

Republicans Form A Circular Firing Squad

We may be witnessing the death of the Republican Party. If so, good riddance!

The party apparatus has lied to its faithful for years: The party of small government… the party of freedom… the party that supports the Constitution… the party of the 2nd Amendment… the party of free enterprise. The rhetoric has never matched the performance, but the faithful proles always held out hope that next time would be different. They held their collective noses and voted for the candidate the elites shoved down their throats.

Once again, the party elites have pre-determined the nominee. It’s Mitt Romney.

Romney has received endorsements from two of the party’s biggest losers: Senator John McCain and former Senator Bob Dole. With friends like those, no wonder the proles are looking elsewhere.

So the party has formed a circular firing squad.

Romney, a Massachusetts liberal, abortion supporter, TARP supporter, stimulus supporter, cap-and-trade supporter, believer in big government, war-loving, anti-gun crusader is the choice of the party’s insiders. But according to the Real Clear Politics polling average, almost three out of four of potential Republican voters want the nominee to be someone else.

Newt Gingrich, a draft-dodging Army brat, big government, cap-and-trade supporter, war-loving, anti-gun faux conservative is showing his true stripes. It’s unclear whether he’s really still trying to win the nomination or has just decided to go out slashing and burning everything and everyone in sight. Whatever, he’s taken up the leftist cause of class warfare, attacking Romney from the left over his tenure at Bain Capital and the fact that he’s “rich.” No wonder Gingrich hangs out with the likes of Nancy Pelosi and James Clyburn.

Iowa Republican elites used dirty tricks to prop up Rick Santorum, falsely portraying him as the conservative alternative to Romney. But Santorum’s another neocon, gun-grabbing, big-government faux conservative, and he has no chance to win the nomination. He isn’t even on the ballot in Virginia, and he has virtually no campaign apparatus to speak of after placing all his eggs in Iowa’s basket. He finished fifth in New Hampshire voting, squandering his Iowa bounce.

As they did Santorum in Iowa, the mainstream media tried to prop up Jon Huntsman in New Hampshire. But repeated news reports of a late surge (which gave Huntsman false momentum in the minds of voters) could net him only a third-place finish. Huntsman, who actually governed Utah fairly conservatively, is running to the left of everyone in the Republican field. That’s not terribly surprising since his campaign manager is John Weaver.

Weaver worked for the McCain campaign in 2000 and 2008 and is a former Democratic operative. But no matter, Huntsman is not a serious candidate, despite what the MSM wants you to believe. He won’t even be on the ballot in Virginia, Arizona and Illinois.

Rick Perry, whose campaign would be dead after two dismal showings if not for a big war chest accumulated just after he entered the race and before he began stepping on his own tongue, has also decided to attack Romney from the left. He’s begun calling Romney a “vulture capitalist.” That sounds like something out of President Barack Obama’s Marxist playbook. Perry, who’s an even bigger crony capitalist than Gingrich, apparently is convinced that the duty of business owners is not to turn a profit while providing a good or service, but to provide jobs for people — and campaign cash for him.

Republican voters have been duped. The elite, backed by their MSM propaganda arm, have convinced (conned?) them into believing that Romney’s nomination is inevitable and that he’s the “most electable” Republican in the field, despite the fact that only 322,786 votes have been cast in two small States.

Republican voters seem almost content to allow 122,547 voters (Romney’s total in the two States) to decide a winner in a country of more than 311 million people.

In national polls, three out of four voters say they would vote for someone else. In the upcoming South Carolina and Florida primaries, two of three are supporting another candidate. Nevertheless, an air of inevitability is settling on the race, thanks to an incessant drumbeat from the MSM that the nominee will be Romney.

There is a conservative alternative to Romney. But the elites in the GOP and in the MSM are doing all they can to defeat him with lies and innuendo. Just like they’re beating the drums for an attack on Iran, they’re preying on the sheeple’s fears and slandering Ron Paul.

During coverage of the New Hampshire primary vote count, Fox News talking head Britt Hume said Ron Paul is as likely to be elected as RuPaul. Neocon GOP propagandist extraordinaire Bill Kristol said on Fox News “Special Report w/ Bret Baier” Jan. 11 that he hopes all the candidates remain in the race, no matter how bad they perform, because he believes most of their supporters would go to Ron Paul. And Paul getting 40 percent or more of the vote would be bad for the party, he said.  Any mention of Ron Paul in the MSM is inevitably footnoted with, “Of course, he won’t get the nomination.”

Iran is close to making a nuclear weapon, we’re told, with no supporting evidence provided. That makes it a danger to the United States and to Israel. In fact, reports that Iran is close to having a nuclear weapon were debunked by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who admitted on CBS’s Face The Nation Jan. 8 that Iran was not trying to make a nuclear weapon (at approximately 1:20 in the video).

Paul is, likewise, a danger to the United States and Israel, we’re told, again with no supporting evidence. Yes, freedom and the Constitution are dangerous concepts to the elites because they want us indebted and in shackles rather than prosperous and free.

The fascists have been building their totalitarian state for 150 years now. It’s been a glacial, but inexorable march, because gradualism works best. They are near their goal, and Paul and the 2012 election is probably their last obstacle.

We are living in the last days of life as we have known it. Our currency has been debauched to nothing; our savings stolen right out from under our noses. Our houses have lost a third to a half their values… for those who still have them. Millions of people — 7.3 million were receiving unemployment checks as of Dec. 24 — are looking for jobs that no longer exist. Only food stamps, unemployment checks and welfare are holding off street riots that would make Arab Spring look like a park stroll.

America is not just economically bankrupt; it’s morally bankrupt. Government agencies now promote immoral behavior. The public’s minds are numbed by the cesspool that is prime time television and “art” foisted upon us by Hollywood, and they are caught up in euphoria over the successes of their favorite sports teams.

America has become as Rome. Pleasure, entertainment, empire and money-printing are our drugs.

Real learning is anathema to the people. Having been fed the garbage pushed on them in government (non)education indoctrination centers teaching loyalty to the state, they now wallow about, growing fat on processed foods and seeking health from profit-obsessed mainstream physicians and pharmaceutical companies — never realizing and, in most cases, not caring that the foods they eat and the drugs they take are sapping their brains and destroying their bodies. Their further education comes from the propaganda that passes as daily news from fools like Kristol, whose loyalty is to party and fascism and the new world order rather than the country and Constitution.

It is this mind-numbed ignorance that allows the Republican Party — the so-called party of conservatism — to promote a pack of status quo leftists as conservatives and get away with it. It is what allows the doublethink to thrive: War is peace; freedom is slavery; ignorance is strength. Add one more: Left is right.

There are some people who get it. It’s encouraging that it’s the younger set — the 40 and under crowd — that recognizes Paul as the statesman he is, and it’s sad that most people over 40 do not. Despite the derisive name-calling of the establishment — who call Paul’s supporters paulbots or paultards or whatever, and try and couch them as a bunch of pot-smoking fleabaggers and 60s throwbacks — a growing crowd is awakening and embracing the freedom of our forefathers. The elites recognize that if the younger crowd is embracing the message of liberty that the message will only grow stronger.

That’s what has the elites living in fear. That’s why the Republican Party is tearing itself apart.

The MSM continue to ask Paul if he will run as a third-party candidate if he fails to win the Republican nomination and are perplexed when he doesn’t answer the way they want. CNN’s Dana Bash recently asked Paul if he would encourage his supporters to back the eventual Republican nominee.

The questions are irrelevant and demonstrate the MSM do not understand Paul’s followers. They are an independent lot. They have come to recognize what most have not: that we are living under a growing tyranny and a vote for any other Republican candidate will give them four more years of either Obama black or Obama white — more likely the former.

And it won’t matter whether Paul mounts a third-party bid — and I doubt he will — if his efforts at securing the Republican nomination are thwarted. And it won’t matter whether he encourages his supporters to back the GOP nominee if it’s one of the current crop of statists.

Having once sniffed freedom and experienced the message of liberty, none but a few will ever again board the train to more tyranny. Besides, it’s looking more and more like the GOP is going the way of the Whig Party that spawned it.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • http://deleted Claire

    Bob Livingston– A very well written, informative article. My husband and I appreciate it. You hit the nail on the head with this one. Thank you.

    • FreedomFighter

      “We are living in the last days of life as we have known it.”

      Its pretty obvious some outside force is trying to control Americans, elections, goverment, military — the world is the prize.

      Let us not give the world over to evil men, fight the NWO, or turn your children over to death and enslavement.

      We still can still stop them.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • lostinparadise

        It is sad, but I fear “armed and dangerous” is going to be our battle cry.

        • Tom W.

          “Now, I say to you today my friends, even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream. I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: – ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.”
          Martin Luther King Jr., Speech at Civil Rights March on Washington, August 28, 1963

          • Void1972

            Tom
            I agree that all men and women are “created equal”. But that just means we come onto this earth as a human being. Some of us are born healthy, some are less fortunate. Some are born into wealth, most are less fortunate.
            The dream is not for us to be equal, but to excel in our own personal journey.
            Equality, diversity and tolerance are just a battle cry of the communist. This is not how God intended the world to be.
            If God wanted the world to be fair, he would have made us all in his image, all the same look, same color, same hair same social standing and so on.
            Life is not fair but what you make of it.
            Our journey or challenge is what makes us human. Our strengths or weaknesses are what make us his creation, and what we accomplish or fail to is what we make of ourselves.
            I think we have a horrible battle coming to our gate very soon. This will be the final battle against the evil that man has created, the evil that has infested our government, media, schools, churches, and unfortunately, our children.
            Evil is epidemic in our world and for many, the final days are upon us. As Bob said, Left is right. But it goes further. Good is bad and bad is good. Just turn on almost any station and watch the sickness in front of your face.
            I have a dream that in our final days, we will come together as Americans, and help each other. We will not turn away those who are hungry, thirsty or wounded. We will take care of those who have faith and do the right thing, and fight against the evil ones with all of our strength and will. We will keep our faith and our love of God and America.
            God bless America, and those who fight for her!!!!

          • wnettles

            “ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL
            BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS”.

            George Orwell, Animal Farm, 1945

          • Tom W.

            Void, I agree with everything you say but I believe that you misunderstand me a little. I was simply quoting Dr. King in honor of the holiday. I agree with you 100% that life is what you do with the GIFTS given to you, and I believe Dr. King would agree as well. But the fact is that if you go back to that point in time, blacks weren’t treated as equals. Dr. King didn’t want to have anything GIVEN to him, he simply wanted to be treated as an EQUAL and given a FAIR chance. And I also agree that we are fast approaching that day and it is our jobs as Christians to try our best to open the lost’s eyes to that fact!!!
            Keep your eyes on the skies!

          • Erik

            Hey Tom, WAKE UP YOU FOOL<AND SMELL THE COFFEE BREWING!!!!!!!!!!

      • http://n/a Jo Ann Pottorff

        I am an older senior…I remember the real patriotism that permeated the whole country in WWII and how they all did everything they could to win….people believed inthe constitution then though I myself was not very aware of what we were fighting for but I knew it was for GOOD and that we were fighting for justice, brotherhood, peace, etc. And that it cost many young people to die for it. Unfortuanately too many people are just plain unaware of what’s happening and don’t seem to care too much….they cannot conceive of NO FREEDOM…in my age group we just will be known as “units” who will not receive the medical care that’s due us because we are no longer valid citizens at this age. I grieve for my children, grandchildren, and great grands!

        • olinda moore

          At this time people has observe,the candidates and Rommyis fake the father mexican and the grandfather too,untill now the american people found out,at least Rick Perry was honest from the beguining when he talk about the imigrant and the shot he aprove to prevent cancer in the girls,he was honest with the people,and we see now mitt romny lier to us,how we the people going to trust him,i believe on Rick Perry now i believe he can defit borrack obama and me and all my family will vote for him…God bless america

          • Mark Are

            Vaccine he approved? More like insinuated that you had to have it or they would force you! And what about the girls who were maimed or died because of that vaccine. Perry was a tyrant.

          • moonbeam

            You wont be able to vote for Perry because he won’t be in the race. Do you really think that FORCING young girls, too young for sex in the first place, to get an injection that is on record for KILLING some of them?

            What’s in that Gardasil injection anyway? Do you know? Mercury, toxic to the brain and promotes alzheimers may be an ingredient. You do know that shot doesn’t protect against all strains of HPV? Here’s a little snippet from http://www.gardasil.com/

            “GARDASIL may not fully protect everyone, nor will it protect against diseases caused by other HPV types or against diseases not caused by HPV. GARDASIL does not prevent all types of cervical cancer.”

            Do you really want a president, who will by executive order, FORCE his will upon your family and this nation? We have that very situation happening now. How’s that working for you?

          • Joe H.

            olinda moore
            Before you praise Perry so much for guardisil injections in Texas, you should check this out.
            http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/healthy/hpv-vaccine-miracle-or-menace-cached

          • Joe H.

            olinda,
            here is one more. read closely and see if you would want this to be your child.
            dangersofgardasil.org/index.php/research-studies/82-hpv-cached

          • Robert Smith

            Moonbeam is concerned: “GARDASIL may not fully protect everyone,”

            But it WILL protect enough that the HPV cycle or transfer will be seriously hindered thus making the world much safer even for those who don’t get the shot.

            I find it sad that politics take a priority over preventing cancer.

            Rob

          • Carolyn Cummings

            This past summer we almost lost my 18 yr.old niece to cervical cancer that was caused from a mandatory “gardasil” when she was in foster care a age 15. People need to better informed about it before making someone take this shot. Praise the Lord she is now in remission.

          • Steve

            The youth of today could learn alot from Tim Tebow. There once was a time that the republicans supported “abstitence” as the best birth control and STD preventive. Yet another virtue the party has abandoned. Now a simple shot will do the trick, because after all, they can “just say no to drugs”, but waiting until marriage, well that is ridiculous and unrealisteic. Ron Paul is the only hope for the republican party in every issue, domestic and foreign.

          • Old Henry

            Joe H:

            I tried the link twice. Both times it went to the WISH TV 8 site, but said the page was not available.

          • John Fredenburg

            Please do not let this person vote. She and her ilk is what is wrong with America today. Too many uneducated, uninformed, illiterate people with the freedom to have their say and they don’know squat!!!

          • http://justafewdaysagobobLivingston margie

            I would have voted for Rick Perry

          • texastwin827

            Olinda, you are terribly wrong about Rick Perry.

            First, let me explain..he says Texans could “opt out” of giving their girls the vaccine NOW…but that was NOT the way it was presented to Texans when he made the ruling…our legislature responded to irate citizens and overruled him on it. This so called “vaccine” has NEVER been tested on children, they can’t even tell you how long it “protects” and, contrary to popular belief, it only protects a person from a few of the various cancers, caused by HPV, NOT ALL OF THEM.

            Then he made the mistake of thinking he was going to take thousands of acres (by eminent domain) from landowners, so they could build the TransTexas Corridor which would have allowed Mexican trucks to enter into Texas and go all the way to St Louis, without so much as a check of their cargo. Besides the objection to the taking of private lands, Texans were irate over the fact that this would allow goods to be imported into the US, coming in at Mexican ports, not US ports. At least two professions would have been impacted..US truckers and the workers in our ports, the 2nd largest, in the US, is right here in, in Texas (Port of Houston).

            As for “creating” so many jobs..business, not Perry, does that. We are one of the few states that have no state income taxes, good weather year round and a large workforce (especially with all the new “snowbird” Texans).

            Rick Perry is a RINO whose best job qualification is that he strongly believes in paying back for his cronies’ support.

          • http://justafewdaysagobobLivingston margie

            Sorry I have not posted a reply to anyone on this site before today.
            I was going to say Mr. Perry was working with Mr. Al Gore in the 80′s
            this bothers me. I hope the truth comes out on Mr. Ron Paul
            before this yr’s election. He is the true American in this race.

          • Mary

            IN LIES YOU TRUST…

          • Joe H.

            to Old Henry and others,
            I too, went to the site I posted and it said could not be found. I then typed gardasil vaccine into their search and the article, entitled “Guardasil Miracle or Menace” did come up. sorry for the inconvenience.

        • aubreyfarmer

          After watching this film any doubt about who is behind all of the manipulation and lies that have brought the US to this sad state of affairs will disappear. YouTube “Benjamin Freedman’s 1961 Speech” Also Google “The Hasbara Project” and it will become crystal clear that it is Israel and Talmudic Judaism’s insidious presence destroying America. Andrew Jackson, Letter to L. H. Coleman of Warrenton, N.C., 29 April 1824
          The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control… Do I mean conspiracy? Yes, I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent. Franklin D. Roosevelt, letter to Col. Edward Mandell House (21 November 1933)
          Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul this unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of statesmanship.
          President Theodore Roosevelt, “The Progressive Covenant With The People” speech (1912
          Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.
          Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom (1913), Doubleday, pp. 13-14
          Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws!
          Attributed to Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1744 – 1812). No primary source for this is known and the earliest attribution to him known is in Money Creators (1935) by Gertrude M. Coogan. Before that, “Let us control the money of a nation, and we care not who makes its laws” was said to be a “maxim” of the House of Rothschilds, or, even more vaguely, of the “money lenders of the Old World”. This is a play on an English proverb, Let me make the songs of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws. “And it may well be that this same astounding race may at the present time be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy, as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested, would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical.” Winston Churchill International Jews.
          See what statesmen from the past have said. http://www.iahushua.com/JQ/436quote1.html

          • jimmy the greek

            Have you ever read The International Jew By henry ford 1920 he had it right way back then .

          • Steve

            Aubreyfarmer, Propaganda at its finest and it generalizes, as does The International Jew By Henry Ford 1920, to the point of vast bigotry… Hate can do that and generalizations is one of its methods to spread that hate to the entire targeted group.

            We could do the same by saying all Protestant criminals are merely a mirror image of all criminals and therefore all Protestants are criminals. It is easy to do and just as ignorant and evil…

            jimmy the greek , Thanks for you reference too… :-))).

          • Tom W.

            Dear jimmy the freak, Henry Ford was as anti-Semitic as Adolf Hitler. One of the best hidden facts of history is the aid that was given to the Nazi’s by the Ford motor Co.!!! They would’ve never come as dangerously close to success as they did without it!

          • Frank Fredenburg

            Aubrey please check out incogman . net /. It would be a pleasure to see you posting comments at the site.

        • Old Henry

          Yes Jo Ann, we have already declared the unborn as non-human so as to faciltate their murder so it is a small step to do the same with the over 65 crowd.

          HOWEVER, never p*ss off an old person. If they are too tired to fight, they will just kill you…

          • http://deleted Claire

            Old Henry–Never piss off an old person…..very true! LOL

          • Mary

            Old people are my favorite and best friends. I have learned a lot from them. They are brave and ready because must of them are living overtime. In their own words” I keep my money and guns I will use them if I have to. You keep the change”.

          • Old Henry

            Mary:

            Every time an old person dies, it’s like a library buning down.

          • Tom W.

            Not only will they kill you Henry, they’ll take pleasure in doing it. My big brother has an interesting insight on getting older, he say’s “It ain’t for Sissys!” Bingo would be illegal if the lawmakers didn’t FEAR those old ladies!!!

        • http://wolfpack2012.net JThaddeustoad

          Jo Ann …. I thank your generation for standing up for freedom and your fears are not unfounded,however,there is one mightyer than all of us who will watchout for those who acknowledge him and keep his commandments…. This country is going through some serious times,Iam encouraged by the fact that good people are finally breaking the silence and speaking out …. The america you once new will be restored for your grandchildren and great grandchildren there is much work to do …. your generation have done their share …pray for us…

          • Tom W.

            “From every mountainside, let freedom ring. When we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God’s children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, ‘Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!’” Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. – I Have A Dream, 1963

        • 45caliber

          Jo Ann:

          The real problem today is that the American politician has absolutely NO INTEREST IN US WINNING A WAR! They only want to use them to get people’s attention off what they are doing in Washington. It is for politicial use only.

          When Vietnam was going on, Meet the Press interviewed HH Humphrey. One asked him, “If Washington is so interested in peace as you say, why is it not trying to set up a meeting to discuss peace?”

          Humphrey’s answer was, “We want to see if the enemy is really interested in peace by seeing if they will suggest such a meeting.”

          Immediately one reporter asked, “Do you have any idea how many American soldiers are dying while you politicians are playing your games?”

          Humphrey noted, “It really doesn’t matter how many dies as long as the politicians can get the credit for ending the war.”

          • shell

            Very true, culling of the military who didn’t finish HS, and while daddy or mommy are on welfare, it’s an adult form of abortion. that decreases the population pretty quick , not to mention using up old weapons and amo, to create new ones for future wars. It’s politics and business as usual with the crooks on the hill. Vote these old, nasty, smelly, Heathens out of office, starting with your favorite Rep. Don’t forget for many years Mass kept voting for the blond in the pond man, who was a murder. Pretty sad when a State keeps voting for a man who let a young girl die in his car, in the pond. Selfish, greedy, people who agree to abortion and murder in the same breath.

          • Tom W.

            “Because, therefore, we are defending a way of life, we must be respectful of that way of life as we proceed to the solution of our problem. We must not violate it’s principles and precepts, and we must not destroy from within what we are trying to defend from without.” – Dwight D. Eisenhower

        • James Hal.

          I truely believe in what you have commented on. I’m in your age group and I see what is going on. The problem is WHY?. What makes all the corporate BIGS think they can remove all the billions and billions of bucks at the same time, send 25,million jobs over seas/out of the country and why are we allowing this to happen. You would think ther was away to stop this and charge the BIGS a sircharge tax when they do not bring them back. This way we could fufill our job quota without touching menicre/ social secuity/ and loading additional taxes on the middle 1% ;;; get it togethert folks before it’s to late.

          • Tom W.

            There is something fundamentally wrong with living high on the hog here in the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave while exploiting the boondoggle of $14 a day labor overseas! If our government was truly looking out for us, they would have told these fat cats to pack up their corporate HQ’s and send them overseas also! When we lost our jobs at the Ford Motor CO. back in the early 80′s, we tried to tell people what was on the horizon. But what did a bunch of smelly old auto workers know?!
            What made this country the greatest this world has ever seen was the fact that we were totally self-sufficient! There was nothing that we needed that wasn’t made right here in the good ole’ USA! Do you know where our country ranks in cellular technology? 17th!!! And that was a couple a years ago and UNEXCUSABLE!

      • Robert Smith

        From the article: “He’s begun calling Romney a “vulture capitalist.” That sounds like something out of President Barack Obama’s Marxist playbook. ”

        Actually “vulture capitalist” is a fairly common term for those who use their money to loot rather than build companies they acquire.

        And, it isn’t uncomon for those detracting from those on a pedistal to be correct. Remember, it was George Bush Sr. who called Reagan’s trickel down economics voodo economics”.

        Turns out Bush was right. The middle class hasn’t seen squat from the 1% who have gathered more wealth than ever before and taken jobs and exported them.

        Rob

        • s c

          Let us be FAIR about this topic, o mean-spirited and hypocritical utopian. Your White House GOD has done SQUAT for the middle class since he ‘took over,’ r. He’s done a first-rate job of raping the middle class. He is a hypocrite’s hypocrite.
          The ONLY reason why he enjoys any popularity AT ALL is because TREASONOUS media whores don’t have the stones to print REAL NEWS, let alone say the TRUTH.
          YOU deserve the current W H GOD. AMERICA DOESN’T!
          I wonder what kind of answer you’d get if you asked The Anointed Abomination if he prays to himself. It fits. You bought him. You own him. Take him with you when you slither off to a country that will have you.

          • jim

            AMEND !!!!!

          • denniso

            The ‘party of small government and freedom’??? Sure,if you exclude all the military buildup and exhorbitant,wasteful war spending,not mention the willingness to go to war at the drop of a hat that has been a major part of the Repub party for decades….all that despite the warning from one of our most famous WW2 generals and Repub presidents ,Eisenhower, about the military industrial complex and it’s ability to literally control our politics and economic system.

            Freedom? From a party that wants to command women to do w/ their bodies what the ‘party’ demands? From a party that continues to imprison people for growing or using a weed that the puritanical party deems to be ‘evil’?

            The only freedom that the Repub party stands for is the freedom of the very wealthy and mega corporations to maintain their elite status and position over the working class who really do struggle to stay alive and continue to provide the next generation of workers and soldiers needed to support the rich in their comfortable opulence.

          • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

            denniso -

            I think that was the author’s point.

          • jackie

            Bob this article seems to violate all of your rules of name calling and racist remarks but if this type of language is directed at disrespecting president Obama then its acceptable. Am I understanding this correctly?

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear jackie,

            I’m not sure who/what you’re addressing. Please be more specific.

            Thanks,
            Bob

          • 45caliber

            Bob: jackie means that you weren’t saying how wonderful Oblama is. That is disrespect to her and many like her.

          • denniso

            Jazza…no, bob is decrying the deterioration of the Repub party because of their infighting and that they won’t be able to defeat Obama because of it. Bob and others believe the myth that the Repubs fundamentally stand for freedom,when all evidence points to the exact opposite,except for the ruling elites.

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear denniso,

            I am perfectly capable of speaking for myself and don’t need you mischaracterizing what I wrote or what I think.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • WickedPickle

            … And you bought Bush and will most likely buy the next failure.. The people who voted for Obama wanted change and they were promised this but alas (for whatever reason, he failed), that doesn’t make them fools for believing.. Now you would want us to believe YOU’RE candidate is all for change and promises to make America great again and you swallow it just like the one’s you call an idiot.. Can you not see that they’re out for themselves and the ONLY way to break that chain is to continue to vote for a man (or woman) that’s above these inequities.. Got anybody in mind? Be careful, one day you might be called an idiot. Don’t look at who others say will win, look at who YOU would want to win and if he/she wins and let’s you down then and only then will you realize that it’s the way today’s politics operate. Ron Paul just might be our only hope in a truly hopeless situation.

          • Tom W.

            Dear Denniso, preventing the murder of an unborn child is not telling someone what they can and can’t do with their body. That is why I stand with the pro-life movement’s push to declare a fetus a child from the moment of conception.
            Jeremiah 1:5(KJV)
            “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.”
            Psalm 139:13(KJV)
            “For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.”

          • denniso

            There is no fetus at the moment of conception,just a fertilized egg,so you want to declare a fertilized egg a person. You cite the bible,do you know the bible also condemns masturbation? Do you want to declare that illegal as well? A fertilized egg,zygote,fetus, all belong to the woman and her body,so now you people who loudly complain about state power and ‘liberty’ want the state to take over that aspect of a woman’s life and body,criminalizing what she may do w/ her body. That makes no sense. Having the state interfere into the most private aspect of a woman’s life is nothing short of Fascism and totalitarianism. It also doesn’t work…there have always been and will continue to be women who for whatever reason decide to end a pregnancy,despite the heavy hand of the sate.

            The hypocritical Repub party shouts ‘freedom’,'liberty’,'small gov’t',’individual rights’, all the while they push for more Fascistic laws like this,as well as locking people up who choose to smoke a naturally ocurring weed…try being consistent and logical,and toss out your desire for Christian law just as the right campaigns against Sharia law.

        • Michael J.

          George Soros, Bill Gates, Oprah Winfrey and a gazillion others are Obama supporting 1%er’s. Obama’s backers are flush with one percenter’s.

          • CaptChaos69

            Don’t call Obama supporters 1% ers. 1% er is a term associated with outlaw bikers i.e. Hell’s Angels, Outlaws, El Forstero’s Bandido’s, etc. Please don’t insult these people by identifying them with Obama supporters, ther REAL criminals.

          • George

            Don’t forget to include Warren Buffets purchase of BN/Santa Fa and the fat railroad deal for hauling ND crude when Obumer squashed the Canadian pipeline. Shrewd business planning or insider help from the President? Why would Buffet buy a failing/ subsidizes enterprise? Or the PetroBaz. deal he secured for George Soros/BP while stopping oil production in the Gulf of Mexico. Obama is corrupt as the day is long…..

        • eddie47d

          Wealth is up 268% for those 1% yet America is in decline. You do the math in determining who brought this upon us. Their maddening march into money left the Middle Class hanging on to the edge of the cliff.

          • aubreyfarmer

            And a mountain of debt suspended over the head of the American people by thread. The thread will break. That is the plan.

          • Joe H.

            eddie,
            and for the last three years, this has gone on under your hero, Adumber!!!!

          • Nadzieja Batki

            The government is in charge of businesses. It tells the businessmen who to hire, who to fire, the layout of the businesses, what businesses can exist,etc.,etc.. Go after the real culprits if the economy is bad and jobs are hard to come by. The entity which regulates is the one who is in control.

          • denniso

            The more the Repubs shoot at ea other the better. The more who stay in the race and bicker,the better.

            Romney is a Mass moderate who has to convince the extreme rightwing crackpot zealots that he is one of them…good luck Mitty!

          • eddie47d

            Well Joe I think that means that the President doesn’t have as much control over business if those Big corporations can keep getting away with it. If businesses are hollowing that they are hurting then how can they in all conscience be making that kind of money. I think you missed the part about how corrupted they are. Where they win and we lose.

          • Joe H.

            No eddie since he hasn’t addressed it, it just means he doesn’t give a $hit!!!

        • ernest

          we agree with ROBERT SMITH about exporting jobs THEY ARE DOING IT THROUGH THE SO-CALLED FREE-TRADE DEALS ask your selfs how a company in the US can compete against a company in China, India and the other countrys they sell our jobs too, Donald Trump said it on Fox News but no one listens?

          • Robert Smith

            Posted: “THEY ARE DOING IT THROUGH THE SO-CALLED FREE-TRADE DEALS”

            Maybe. So, are we to REGULATE so free trade isn’t so free trade?

            Rob

          • Tom W.

            We shouldn’t allow products made overseas by people whose human rights are abused by the amount of compensation they receive or the working conditions under which they toil to be sold in the Land of the Free and home of the Brave!!! Mitt gets a lot of credit for turning Staples into the office supply giant that it is today. The way he succeeded at that was by replacing all the made in the USA and her allies products with cheaper made in China goods! Good job Mitt!!!

        • Mark Are

          I’ve watched the video, When Romney Came to Town and if it is true, which I suspect it is, Romney fits the term VULTURE capitalist to the tee. He represents the 1%. NOT US. PERIOD.

          • Joe H.

            mark Are,
            name one politician, other than Ron Paul that doesn’t!!! BOTH PARTIES ARE AS CORRUPT AS AN AL CAPONE CLONE!!!

          • Robert Smith

            Joe H. asks: “name one politician, other than Ron Paul that doesn’t!!! ”

            Barry Goldwater.

            But then he’s dead so he can’t do much. But those of us who follow his ideas still have hope that this mess between the 1% and the rest of us can be worked out.

            Tax the looters and help those who actually produce something besides paper. It’s that simple actually.

            Rob

        • http://wolfpack2012.net JThaddeustoad

          Rob … we need a vulture capitalist to seperate the wheat from the chaff …. I would start with General motors and the union thugs sitting on their asses collecting 40 dollar an pension benefits for building cars that do not work…. Next i would move on General Electric and give them a tax bill for all the business they have done with enemies of this nation …. Next I would do my level best to make mainstreet competitive with the Wallmarts of the world… Venture capitalists will enjoy a tax holiday while cutting the freeload out of the federal budget …. help when needed it is time working people stop paying for irresponsible procreation of generations of welfare families… and this would be just the beginning … this would be the era of the vulture capitalist … if your business is losing money you should not be in business the vultures will take care of that …

          • SMILEE

            JThaddeustoad says:
            January 16, 2012 at 1:34 pm

            $40.00/hr, You are a joke. They have taken a number of paycuts and make no where near that not even the highest paid. Starting pay is now $14.00/hr

        • Tom W.

          Rick Perry has his nerve saying anything about Mitt’s ethics, he was a big proponent of the ‘Trans Texas Corridor’, does anybody realize how CLOSE this thing came to fruition before the people of Texas got wise to what they were trying to do and SHUT it down!!! Perry was also seen at the Bilderberg meeting in Chantilly, VA back in “08″ , watch the Alex Jones documentary ‘The Obama Deception’! Has anybody ever heard of the ‘Logan Act’?!!
          http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=the+obama+deception&mid=6717768C731097887DAD6717768C731097887DAD&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1&adlt=strict

      • Insurgent

        Dole and McCain are prime examples of why we need term limits for Congress, the Supreme Court, and all federal judges. These lying professional politicians get locked into office and forget why they ran in the first place. It is the lying professional politicians that have buried this country in debt. They were too busy lining their pockets and the pockets of their wealthiest contributors to represent the average US taxpayer.
        Washington, DC is America’s cessspool for liars, whores, and thieves.

        • Mark Are

          don’t you mean average tax SLAVE?

      • Southwesterner

        Your comments are absolutely on target.
        The people responsible are:
        Council on Foreign Relations,
        Trilateralists and Builderbergs.
        Richard Haas is working behind the scenes as is George Soros.

      • Tom W.

        ”Our scientific powers have outrun our spiriitual powers; we have guided missiles and mis-guided men.” – M.L.K. Jr. – “Strength to Love” 1963

      • jimmy the greek

        Your right ! and that outside force is them dam zionest .

        • Tom W.

          Ya volt!!! Har Jimmy! Why do I get the feeling you have a picture of the Fuhrer hanging on your wall.

        • Frank Fredenburg

          Jimmy please check out incogman . net /. Unless I’m wrong I think you will enjoy the articles and the comments.

      • Tazio2013

        Please describe/explain how “we can stop them”. No matter which phony Republikrat; i.e., BHO or W”M”R, is elected in November there will be no meaningful change and the decline of the once great US socio-politico-econo-cultural system will continue unabated. Jon Huntsman was the best of the lot and he dropped out today! In my considered opinion, the downward spiral of the US SPEC system began with the post 9-11 policies and programs of the warmongering, Islamophobic, crusading conservative Christian, pro-Zionist, corrupt crony capitalist Cheney Bush & Company Republican administration.

        Tuam libera mentem
        Sapere aude
        Semper fi!

        • Tazio2013

          This was addressed to FreedomFighter.

      • Jim

        It’s somewhat ironic, I think, in the way that the term “New World Order” has been bandied around so freely; especially considering that the Statist ideology that promotes slavery of the People & total loyalty to the power-hungry individuals & small groups (which, by definition, comprises a very small MINORITY of the total population) that enslaves us is the very SAME THING that has been saddled upon humanity since the very beginnings of human civilization. If anything at all, the so-called “New” World Order is nothing more than the same “Old” World Order expanding itself in size & scope; the only changes being made by the Old World Order is the use of advancing technologies to implement itself on a wider scale.

        If anything, the True New World Order was the establishment of the foundling USA, the first nation in WORLD HISTORY to promote individual freedom for self-determinism as the Supreme Law of the Land. Of course, America was seen as a “threat” to the Old World Order & its totalinarianistic suppression of human social evolution…It’s a threat to the power-structures of the tyrants & dictators that have been carefully built up throughout our entire history. Why else would they have infiltrated the halls of our government & corrupted away from our Supreme Law? Why else would they support the social divisions between people & “class warfare” tactics that include labeling & marginalizing people away from each other? Why else would they start dividing us with references as ” Americans,” when we are all Americans (whether born or naturalized)? “Divide & Conquer,” after all, is a viable & time-tested tactic aganst an enemy & they DO see the People as they’re enemy.

        The biggest threat to this misnammed “New” World Order is a true uniting of the People despite their lies & treachery, simply because they disillusion themselves from the real Truth under the Laws Of Nature; The People are the ULTIMATE SOURCE of all power in the world & they can’t maintain their control without the lies they speak. They use their lies in a delusory attempt to steal our Power from us while also denying the truth behind their thefts.

        The US Founding Fathers gave us a taste of what true freedom & self-determanism are all about…It’s a concept that allows individuals to freely associate with others & determine how we want our world & society to be like in the long run; in short, the Founding Fathers gave us a chance in Social Evolution & a true One World Society. How can such a society be contrived by force? The use of force to mold society accomplishes nothing but to retard the GROWTH of society.

      • Tom W.

        FF, our best chance for success is to try and get people to open their eyes. The signs and symbols are everywhere, when I look around now, I shake my head and wonder how I could have lived 35 years and been as blind as I was. Sometimes it’s hard to show somebody something that they DON’T want to see. They don’t want to believe it FF and I can’t blame them! But we can’t stop trying to show and to teach, It is our ONLY hope!
        Keep your eyes on the skies bro, He loves ya and so do I!!!

      • OhahaChris

        From my purely Community College Marketing 101 viewpoint, the Republican elites are throwing this election.
        They have Ron Paul, who can blow away Obama’s class warfare tactics by simply pointing out to a debate audience how much free or reduced-priced medical care he’s given poor folks and then asking both lawyer Obamas how many pro-bono cases they’ve taken in their lifetimes.
        That they support a bunch who are all so vulnerable to the “evil rich” rhetoric of Obama proves that they don’t want to win.

    • Tom W.

      I agree Claire, Bob you outdid yourself today, there’s plenty of blame to go ALL around! None of us should be pointing fingers!!! We should all be pulling together and doing our very best to try and find a solution to ALL of our problems, both in this country and overseas as well. If we don’t I fear the Mayans just may be right, this could be the last year of life as we know it!!! What a different world it would be, if we could all just learn to live by this simple philosophy – “If it falls your lot to be a street sweeper, sweep streets like Michelangelo painted pictures, sweep streets like Beethoven composed music, sweep streets like Leontyne Price sings before the Metropolitan Opera. Sweep streets like Shakespeare wrote poetry. Sweep streets so well that all the hosts of Heaven and earth will have to pause and say: Here lived a great street sweeper who swept his job well. If you can’t be a pine at the top of the hill, be a shrub in the valley. But be the best little shrub on the side of the hill.”
      Dr.Martin Luther King Jr.
      Happy MLK Day everyone

      • DaveH

        Excellent quote, Tom.

        • http://deleted Claire

          Tom W — I agree, good post.

      • Robert Smith

        And it is up to society to assure that the street sweeper is cared for as best they can to reward his best efforts.

        We ALL need to do our best for each other.

        Rob

        • professor

          Robert, why do we all need to take care of the “street sweeper?”

          Wrong, in my opinion!

          People need to be self-sufficient and productive! This baloney about “we all need to care for each other” has resulted in 47% of the population living off the 52% that are still working…or want to work! It has resulted in the democrats keeping a “herd” of bought and paid for” voters that we taxpayers are made to support.

          And, for another point, Robert, it is unconstitutional for the government to demand one segment of the population to support another segment! The government is actually enslaving some people to serve others. Participation is not optioinal! People don’t think before they repeat all these “feel good” statements…

          And, Bob Livingston great article…

          • Robert Smith

            So professor, are you going to kill those who are unfortunate outright or let them die in the street?

            Rob

          • jackie

            Well its very noticible that the professor has never served his country in any capacity because if he had, the selfiness In his attitude would not be as glowing as it is in his reply. my government instilled in me that since I had what it took to serve my country with 23 years of military service that our mission weather I choose to accept it or not was to help those who could not help them selves. That is why I flew airlift missions(moving US troops) to Missippi the night the roits took place because of the intergregation of the university of Missippi, flew airlift missions to aid in the blockade of Cuba, flew airlift missions in support of India in their war with China, Flew airlift missions over areas of North Vietnam (dropping flares) lighting up the skies night after night so our ground forces could complete their missions without the cover of darkness. The point I am making is that the selfishness you displayed in your reply would have made your participation impossible because of your beleif of every man for him self and god for us all. I am glad that your beleif is not the law of the land.

          • 45caliber

            professor:

            You have your numbers backwards. It is the 52% who are living off the 47% workers.

            But I agree with you. If the street sweeper wishes to find a better paying job, he can in this society. In the Communist society that Rob likes so much, he is simply appointed to that job and has no choice in the matter. So why should we want to pay him as much as others?

            A doctor spends up to ten years learning his trade. An engineer spends at least four years and usually six doing the same thing. So why should a street cleaner make the same amount of salary?

          • professor

            jackie….so, you served in the military and did “your job.” Not much of a reason to take a “holier than thou” attitude. Lots of people have done the same thing you did. BTW, you don’t have a clue about what I have or haven’t done..

            Jackie, feel free to give everything you have to the lazy..that is your business. But, don’t you tell me what I should or shouldn’t do like the rest of the liberals. I think that it is too bad the lazy half of the population (the half that wants to live off your labor) didn’t join the military like you did.

            Additionally, I would like to know what your military service has to do with justifying medicaid abuse by half our population.

          • eddie47d

            Nobody anywhere said that the street sweeper should be getting more money only more respect for the job he is doing. That would cover any job category.

          • Old Henry

            Or 45, the street sweeper can negotiate with his employer for more pay for himself due to HIS superior performace.

          • Old Timer

            Well Jackie thank you for your service flying to help your fellow man to remain a top ditch digger. I served before you did and did so to preserve his freedom to work and improve himself.

            I too served to protect his and the rest of the citizens including my own right to work and improve my station in life. Thank God for the GI bill and a wonderful wife who has worked with me for nearly 60 years.

            I served in the USMC in Korea 1952 after which I went to school and became a surgeon and when that was taken away from me went to Law school to be able to continue working andnot asking tax payers or anyone else to share their hard earned money with me.

            No, I do not agree with your response to the professor who stated very well just what this country is about. Thank you Prof and May our great God Bless you and all of our Military and veterans

            Semper Fi USMC 1952

          • JeffH

            Old Henry, this is the only street sweeper I’ll pay for… :)

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhg0TvgawGk&feature=related

          • Tom W.

            Bend over and touch your toes Jeff, and I’ll show you where your street sweeper goes Chump!!!

        • Mark Are

          And how are we going to do that Bob? Are you going to come to my house and rob me at gunpoint to make sure the street sweeper is taken care of? Well, come on over! Oh, wait, you won’t do that yourself. You don’t have the balls. You’ll hire some government goon to do it for you.

          • Robert Smith

            So, the street sweeper is a government employee. What do YOU want to pay him (or her)?

            Should they get health benefits in your opinion?

            Rob

          • Tom W.

            Nobody ever knows how important the garbageman is until you make him real good and mad! And he deserves a better than average wage just for having to put up with your BS!!!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          “We” are not here to take care of the street sweepers or anyone else. Each individual is here to take care of themselves and their own families. Making sure that in the process they do not harm other people.
          What is this collective “we” that you love so much?

          • Robert Smith

            How interesting that those from the extreme right talk about “family values” but deny that they are their brother’s keeper?

            And, how can anyome claim to be pro-life and deny health care?

            Rob

          • professor

            Robert, you are a liberal that wants nothing less than “redistribution of wealth” to those that don’t want to work but want to live off other people’s labor.. That is stealing..It is not “family values.”

            “Family values” does not mean that the government can steal from those that work and give to those that won’t! Before the “great society” and its socialist agenda, “families” took care of their own. It should still be that way, it is called “responsibility.” (Some of these welfare kids don’t know anyone that has ever had a job!)

            I am shocked that working Americans didn’t object when the government began to steal from them and give it to the “useless herd” (owned by the democrats). If it were up to me there would still be “food lines” giving out food staples. No money or credit cards would be involved and few people would qualify. It is unconstitutional to forcibly take from one group and give it to another group. That is not charity nor is it legal..and, it certainly cannot be labelled “family values.”

            Charity needs to be run by churches or private organizations and participation should be voluntary. This is no place for government.

          • eddie47d

            Then those corporates who take a bigger share of the pie but don’t work any harder than the next guy should be giving much more back. That 1% has learned to scam this country with great efficiency and makes out like the bandits they are.

          • Robert Smith

            Posted: “That 1% has learned to scam this country with great efficiency and makes out like the bandits they are.”

            Give a punk a gun and he will steal from bank.

            Give a punk a bank and he will steal from a country.

            Rob

          • Tom W.

            So the street sweeper is supposed to do it for free and consider it a honor to be allowed the privilege of sweeping your streets?! If he’s smart, he tells you to do it yourself!!!

      • http://n/a Jo Ann Pottorff

        Being a musician (professionally trained singer) I loved the way you expressed doing your job as magnificently as you possibly could and to realize it IS important to have clean streets….clean public toilets….great teachers to enlighten the minds of the young, though they certainly aren’t given the respect and pay they are due for their valuable input in shaping the consciencesness of the coming generations. Thank you for saying it so well.

        • professor

          Jo Ann,

          All that liberal baloney is just that “baloney.” It is a “given” that any job worth doing should be done well. And, I have some “sticky gold stars” if somebody needs one to be able to feel good about themselves.

          • SMILEE

            Sure the job should be done well but it should also be paid a living wage. Wages today are so low that many workers are eligible for food stamp, earned income credit, medicaid or similar health programs etc. if they do not get it for their employer, many get as much from welfare as they do in wages. That 47% no longer earn enough to pay taxes and if they got a living wage they would and would not be eligible for welfare programs, not that’s one good way to cut our government spending, GOP has no interest in cutting spending this way.

    • BSG

      I disagree totally, you are using the democratic tactic of class warfare. How did this mysterious elite operate? Did they get something into the drinking water of NH, or are they paying off the press? Give some evidence beyond your accusations. Of course if your are a Ron Paul guy then the conspiracy theories always work. The reality, that most people think Paul is a little off, doesn’t sell so you have to come up with this cloak and dagger theory?

      • Deb Johnson

        BGS…Why don’t you explain exactly what happens when the Federal Reserve increases the money supply? This is not something the mainstream media will explain to you. From what you wrote, I would guess that is where you get your information. Try reading a book about it: The Creature from Jekyll Island: http://www.amazon.com/Creature-Jekyll-Island-Federal-Reserve/dp/0912986212
        Once you have read the book, you will have your proof of what Ron Paul is saying! There are other books about the Federal Reserve if you care to do some research.

        • Deb Johnson

          Sorry, got your handle wrong. I mean BSG.

        • BSG

          Money is the grease that keeps the economy running. The Fed’s role is to act as the bankers bank and by buying or selling securities it can increase or decrease the money supply, to some extent. It also has the power to increase or decrease the reserve limits of the banks thus increasing or decreasing the amount of money available for lending. Also the Fed operates as a business and can make a profit, however if it makes more than 4% the excess goes to the government to pay off the debt.
          Personally I would rather have an institution motivated by the market determine how much money should be flushed into the economy than to have some politically motivated entity, like Congress, make those decisions.
          I have read some books on the Fed. Just not the wing-nut titles you suggest.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear BSG,

        I believe I explained and sourced it quite well. Perhaps you should re-read it again, slower this time. And follow the imbedded hyperlinks.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Scott in SC

        BSG,
        Yes they have put something in the water; it’s called flouride. Read up on the long term effects.

        • Robert Smith

          I hear flouride creates extreme righ wing religious nuts.

          Rob

          • 45caliber

            It can’t – or you’d be one.

      • aubreyfarmer

        Google “The Hasbara Project” and from that point forward in your life anything and everything you see on the JewTube will be suspect.

      • Jim

        Of course “they” put something in the water, but not just in NH…They put it EVERYWHERE. Flourides in the water is a TOXIN when ingested! Any good dentist knows this, otherwise they wouldn’t tell you to spit out the flourides & rise thoroughly, instead they’d tell you to swallow it. So, when was your last flouride treatment, hmmm?

        Floridated water is only the tip of the iceburg, implemented by who? Government agencies, of course. Our government has been enacting undeclared ACTS OF WAR upon We the People & tell us to “just accept it” when the net results on the public is degragation of individual intellect, increasingly poor health & debt-slavery to foreign-originated banking interests.

        To many people need to remove the government kool-aid out of their diet…

    • Rick

      Bob…Please don’t misunderstand. I believe that we’re on the same page with MOST points. BUT SERIOUSLY…..not everyone in the US, shares our view. We don’t live in a Utopian society. AND, I’m certain that even as often as we might agree, we likely don’t agree on everything….including our religous beliefs or our assessment of what is or isn’t conservative.

      You make some strong statements about Romney, yet you don’t know the man or even make an attempt to determine whether he would make a good Commander in Chief.

      Good journalism requires at least a degree of objectivity….and from what I can tell your objectivity is geared toward a particular ‘BRAND’ of religion and a far right agenda that reflects a portion of America, but definitely not ALL.

      What’s best for America is someone who can Govern….We have a 3 legged Republic. When one of those legs leans too far one direction or the other…..we have chaos and EVERYTHING is on a tilt. We need to restore the balance of power….NOT RIGHT, NOT LEFT.

      Some of what the candidates have professed is simply …NOT DOABLE!! Think about Herman Cain’s plan (9,9,9)….sounds simple and in some states in might work. BUT in many other states it would create a Tax increase!!! So how would you go about passing such a plan in Congress? Perry’s plan seems simple enough…..but in reality you’d end up having to figure your taxes twice and basically have two separate tax plans…EVEN IF, you could actually get Congress to pass it.

      My beef here is your position to PUSH a particular Candidate or Agenda at the expense of throwing others under the bus. Let’s stop beating each other up and get behind a candidate that is capable of defeating the REAL enemy here. (OBAMA, REED, Pelosi)…otherwise your publication is nothing more than an ideological, Right Wing, propaganda machine that’s essentially no better than the Left.

      • Tom W.

        “Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”
        Martin Luther King Jr., Letter from Birmingham Jail, April 16, 1963

        • Nadzieja Batki

          This verbiage means absolutely nothing.

          • Robert Smith

            Actualy the words of MLK mean a lot to those who want equality in America for all.

            Why would anyone advocate hate and bigotry?

            Ohhhh, I get it. You want a “me and them” so you can consolodate your little wing nut groups. It’s always easier to stand on another rather than climbing on one’s own. That is, until they rise up, and rise up they will.

            Rob

          • professor

            Robert, apply this to the lazy half of the population that you want all of us to support….You were making a point with, “it is easier to climb on another rather than do it on your own.”

            You are absolutely right. This is the way the “medicaid for generations” crowd sees it.

          • Tom W.

            Rise up to be cast on the trash heap of history!!!
            “History teaches that history teaches us nothing “- Hegel

          • Tom W.

            You must be tenured aren’t you professor?

          • Tom W.

            Not to anyone from the Eastern Bloc. By the way Nadzieja, where’s Boris?

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Rick,

        You write: “from what I can tell your objectivity is geared toward a particular ‘BRAND’ of religion…” Where did I mention religion?

        You write: “My beef here is your position to PUSH a particular Candidate or Agenda at the expense of throwing others under the bus. Let’s stop beating each other up and get behind a candidate that is capable of defeating the REAL enemy here. (OBAMA, REED, Pelosi)…otherwise your publication is nothing more than an ideological, Right Wing, propaganda machine that’s essentially no better than the Left.” The only agenda I push is an adherence to the U.S. Constitution. If I see a candidate who is a serial violator of the Constitution, or one who makes no mention of following the Constitution and in fact proposes policies that violate it, I will continue to point that out.

        You must understand that I am no ideologue for any party nor am I trapped in the false left/right paradigm that consumes most political discourse.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • Lev Belinkov

          Bob Livingston!
          You are absaolutelly right!
          All Republican party debates were looks like arguments of several housewifes on multyfamily kitchen! As far as I concern there are no real candidate who can beat Obama. Only one person who could really remove Obama from W.H.is DONALD TRUMP! Why? He is independat,He is reach enough and don’t need any donation,he is great administrator and
          do not hesitate to say”You are fired”to anybody who don’t performed his job properly!But more important:He is really take care about our
          country! And I don’t care how many times he was merryed,did he smoke or not… I think He is a man that America need today.
          Thanks, Lev

    • Leroy

      You are stating that Romney is picked as our GOP Runner, Well i need to say if Mitt Romney is Truly to be the GOP choice, I Will NOT be voting for a Republican this time around!!

      • Rick

        My point exactly…..the mantra of this website seems to be, ‘My way or No way.’ Let’s all just throw out the baby with the bath water!! Maybe we should have ALL of the candidates form their own Political Parties and then we could splinter ALL of the various Political factions into pieces so that the Republican party is meaningless!!!

        So while your motto is divide and conquer, the Democrats are including all of the desparate groups into one very strong force to contend with.

        This is exactly why the Democrats have been so successful…they cater to ALL of the minority factions in order to obtain the power and advance all of the liberal causes!!! (environmentalists, socialists, progressives, gays, lesbians, black, latino, etc. etc.)

        • Tom W.

          “A nation or civilization that continues to produce soft-minded men purchases its own spiritual death on the installment plan.”
          Martin Luther King, Jr.

          Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/martin_luther_king_jr.html#ixzz1jdk2We8w

          • Nadzieja Batki

            This verbiage still says nothing.

          • Robert Smith

            Really?

            How ’bout: “A man who won’t die for something is not fit to live.”

            Martin Luther King, Jr.

            Kinda goes with the “Live Free or Die” I see on car plates.

            Echos, “I regret that I have but one life to give for my country.”

            My guess is you aren’t from America.

            With your clear lack of understanding I’m glad you aren’t here.

            Rob

          • http://deleted Claire

            I have posted this before but here it is again–it is one of my favorites.

            “If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man.”
            Mark Twain

            “My dog can bark like a congressman, fetch like an aide, beg like a press secretary, and play dead like a receptionist when the phone rings.”
            Gerold Solomon, U.S. Congressman

          • libertytrain

            Claire! Ain’t that the truth sister!
            Goodnight.

          • Tom W.
    • Danny Buckles

      Claire, Thanks for what? This JERK just totally trashed the Republican Party. And has tried to destroy any chance of defeating his hero Obama. while he pretends to be a Conservative. Are you and your husband that blind . To this Wolf in sheeps clothing. This is one of the Democrats snipers he took a crack shot at you. Newt Gingrich has been taking hits from Jerks like this for the last twenty years. Newt can and would defeat Obama and turn our Nation back to a prosperous Constitutional Republic.

      • Buddy

        Can you say “simple-minded cool-aid drinker.”

      • Mark Are

        Can you say “simple-minded cool-aid drinker.” YES! Good description.

        • http://deleted Claire

          Mark Are and Buddy–If you are referring to me as a kool-aid drinker, think again. I have every right to post my comments, same as anyone else.

          • Buddy

            Claire:

            My comment was directed at that intellectually-confused-republican-drone Mr. Buckles. Your 1st remark was, imho, quite appropriate.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Buddy: Thank you for your comment.

          • Mark Are

            Not you Claire…watch the thread guides.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Mark Are– oops, my bad.

      • JeffH

        Danny Buckles, Obama? Romney? Two sides of the same coin I’d say. We’re at a point in our history where we need to start recovering our Republic. Haven’t you been able to realize that Repulicans and Democrats want the same thing for you…to create a nanny state, grow Big government and keep you, I and every other citizen dependant on the government teet?

        Ron Paul offers an alternative to this countries future…he’s a constitutionalist. He believes in freedom and liberty for all not just a select few. This upcoming election is about restoring America, not aiding and abetting it’s destruction.

        Wise up and smell the coffee. Neither the GOP or the Dems are interested in preserving liberty and freedom for all.

        Vote Ron Paul 2012!

      • http://deleted Claire

        Danny Buckles– I “THANKED” Bob Livingston for this article. I also agreed with what Tom W. posted farther above at 8:24 a.m. this morning. Like the Democrat party, the Republican party has trashed itself too, in many ways. Don’t attack me for my comments, rethink your own.

      • Joe H.

        danny B.,
        He also has the morals of a skunk!! i have said it before and I will say it till the election is over. IF WE ELECT GINGRICH, WE WILL HAVE ELECTED THE MOST MORALLY BANKRUPT PRESIDENT THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER HAD!! RON PAUL/ANDREW NAPOLITANO 2012!!!!

      • Robert Smith

        Posted: “Newt can and would defeat Obama and turn our Nation back to a prosperous Constitutional Republic.”

        Or leave a dying America for another country like he left his dying wife.

        Palun, Gingrich… Quitters from the right. America doesn’t need quitters.

        Rob

        • Capitalist at Birth

          Rob, Don’t you have anything better to do than stroke the keyboard. Seems like a silly waste of time.

          • Robert Smith

            And Palun and Gingrich are still quitters.

            Rob

    • Steve Johnson

      I think it’s time for the Tea Party to be an organized political party with a running candidate. As with our government, the Republican party has slowly and methodically been indoctrinated through money, corruption and infiltration into socialistic ways. It’s almost as if the Democrats are calling the shots within the party. The last election made an intelligent and purposed John McCain with a backbone into rubber necked bobble head. Popular candidates in this election seem to have lost their minds along the way…. Really…what’s going on?

      • aubreyfarmer

        Wikipedia “Neocon” and you will see that they are formerly of the left and switched to the right because the left was not militaristic and fascist enough to suit the purposes stated in “The Project for a New American Century.” Communism and fascism. Alternate roads to destruction of liberty.

    • Karolyn

      Claire – Sorry about the game, but the best team won! :-)

      • http://deleted Claire

        Karolyn: The Packers made too many errors, if they had been on the ball as so to speak, it would have been a toss-up. The Giants are good, yes, but so are the Packers. They won last year-can’t have it all. On any given day, the Giants could lose to the Packers, but this time they didn’t.

        • Joe H.

          Claire,
          I feel sorry for you, no happy dance yesterday!!!

          • Robert Smith

            Hey Joe!

            I feel really good that the American Patriots beat the religious guy.

            Patriotic Americans win out over religious nuts. This time by a WIDE margin.

            Rob

          • http://deleted Claire

            Joe H– I had two Happy Dances since Tanner’s sons won in Florida Saturday and Sunday so all was niot lost!

          • Karolyn

            Congratulations, Claire! Your fur kids seem to win a lot. They must be beautiful animals.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Karolyn: They are beautiful. Wish everyone could see them. I would love to post the site where some of them appear. Naturally I have gobs and gobs of photos on my computer. libertytrain has seen pictures of them. My youngest is one year old now. Her brothers were the winners this past weekend. I don’t know when I can get out to show her, Bob is not doing well and I will not leave him just to go to a dog show. He comes first.

          • libertytrain

            Claire, Karolyn – yes they are extremely beautiful.

          • JeffH

            Claire, would be wonderful if you could post the website and you dogs names for us to see…I know I’d sure enjoy them.

          • libertytrain

            It would but we want to keep her safe from those that don’t have the honorable intentions you and me, etc. have.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Religious nuts??? I guess that means me–I named my son “Timothy” and that name means “Honor to God.” And guess what–my son is a wonderful person.

    • Old Henry

      I watched the Scheiffer clip. Did anyone else notice that Panetta can’t seem to hold his head up? It’s always at about a 45 degree angle. (Maybe they need to raise his teleprompter?)

      Here is a good article by Laura Trice on Ron Paul.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-trice/dr-ron-paul-6-reasons-he-_b_1206274.html

    • Old Henry
  • Angel Wannabe

    Good Article Bob!_ The push for Romney is so blatantly obvious its pathetic. He’s he Only Repub who holds and has been holding a steady percentage in the(so called) polls. (I don’t trust polls either, they can make them say whatever they want, just like our votes.)

    *Like a Light Beer, Romney is Obama Light always said it, always will!
    Incidently, Anyone BUT Obama isn’t going to cut it either!

    Right/Left Paradigm has been and IS used to keep us divided, when it REALLY DOESN’T MATTER what side your on, they’re one and the same.

    While the rest of the world supports the “United States Corporation”_-I’ll be hanging onto the Constitution, the rest is BS.

    • william

      Angel,
      Are you SERIOUS when you say “Anyone BUT Obama isn’t gonna cut it?” That is exactly what we DON”T need, is 4 more years of someone who will trash the constitution the way “The anointed one” has! It’s time for America to wake up and realize, if we don’t take back the country from the liberal big government, we won’t have a country left! Any CONSERVATIVE candidate has a chance to beat Obama, and will be infinitely better for the country than Obama! But, it has to be a TRULY CONSERVATIVE candidate!

      • JeffH

        william, Angel is right! There is only one true conservative…Ron Paul…check the history and the records of the candidates and you’ll see only one candidate dedicated to the US Constituion and the Bill of Rights.

        Vote Ron Paul 2012!

        • OB1

          There is only one true conservative running for president. Also He has won both the California and the Texas straw polls:

          WHERE IS THIS HEADLINE?????

          …..Ron Paul Receives Pivotal Endorsement of South Carolina State Senator Tom Davis
          Palmetto State Tea Party favorite and GOP heavyweight goes all in for Ron Paul

          One of Paul’s rivals for the Republican nomination, Rick Santorum, recently spoke on the weight a Davis endorsement carries…. “To get an endorsement from someone like Tom Davis is a BIG DEAL. It would speak volumes to folks and make them take notice and give us a look.”

          COLUMBIA, S.C.–(BUSINESS WIRE)– 2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul received today the key endorsement of tea party favorite and South Carolina political heavyweight, state Sen. Tom Davis (R-Beaufort).

          The consequential endorsement took place at a press conference at 6:00 p.m. EST at the Palisades Conference Center, located in Myrtle Beach.

          Sen. Davis is the most influential fiscal conservative in the South Carolina General Assembly and his endorsement virtually assures that fiscal conservatives in the “First in the South” primary state will take notice. His endorsement also is viewed as a political game-changer by many in South Carolina Republican Party circles.

          RON PAUL 2012.
          Saving America, $1Trillion at a time!

      • Joe H.

        william,
        What Angel means is the action of voting for just anyone other than Adumber isn’t going to get it done. We have to vote for a true constitutional conservative like Ron Paul!!!

        • Angel Wannabe

          JoeH, :) :) :)

      • Angel Wannabe

        william I refer you Jeffh comment…

        BTW william, anyone can run for office and add THE WORD “Conservative” behind their name and to their game plan, that’s an “anything to win strategy”..The reality of it is, It’s the candidates voting history if in office, they’re past character & moral history, and whether they actually “lived” and worked in the political realm they portray….RON PAUL DOES AND DID!

    • Blue Devil

      Angel — Hang on to the Constitution!!! This ex-infantryman (along with a lot of others) will help you hold it up!!!!

      • Angel Wannabe

        Blue Devil, Damn satraight my arms are gonna get tired after while! :) :)

        • Angel Wannabe

          BD, Sorry typo, it was suppose to be typed “straight”!

          • Blue Devil

            Angel — You’re forgiven!

      • Jim

        Smper Fi, Blue Devil, even though I’m a Navy vet. Everyone going into military service (& any other Office Under Public Trust) must take the same Oath to protect, defend & uphold the Constitution. Although I’m not in service anymore & the Oath is not legally obligatory now that I’m “out of service,” I still take it seriously as a Citizen of my State & a citizen of my Nation. The clause about “opposing all enemies, foreign or domestic” is truly coming to the forefront as an increasing number of We the People come to realize just what the difference is between “Nation” & “Government”; they are NOT the same thing. We also come to realize that America’s greatest enemies have already infiltrated us & it’s far past time to rid us of their criminality against the Constitution.

        I’m all for PEACEFUL methods & will exhaust all such paths before resorting to violence, but the very nature of a criminal government bends towards eliminating all paths of lawful & peaceful recourse that oppose them…But one must also consider that last resort, the 2nd Amendment, for without it, we have no means to defend any other Rights.

        • BrotherPatriot

          Excellent post, Jim & I/others stand with you in your approach.

          I’m former Spec War and absolutely livid by what I have learned about the people who have been running the show now for so long. However, nothing will ever be done about it unless we start talking & spreading the truth. These people in positions of power have been slowly grinding our rights and the Constitution into the ground.

          It’s time We the People begin to help educate our fellow brothers & sisters and then do whatever must be done to remove the criminals from our Government. We must reveal that they are all interconnected & following the same Agenda.

          Beware the UN, Trilateral Commission & the Council on Foreign Relations. In short…the Bilderbergs & the rest of the Illuminati/Masonic deep level leaders.

          They wish to bring about a one world government where they are the privelaged few & the masses (We the People)…are the cattle that feeds their every whim. Basically, a return to their Feudalistic Utopian Society.

          God Bless all of us who are fighting the good fight.

  • Greg

    You are correct on the story, but conservatives are united in voting against Obama. They will lose most of the energy of the TEA Party, but we must work on getting a veto proof congress so stop the decline of America by any President.

    • http://comcast JimBob

      You’re correct Greg. The goal is to get obama out of the White House. I don’t believe anyone will be tripping over ballot boxes to love Romney, but if he emerges as the candidate, we MUST vote for him. Ron Paul has as much chance as I do of getting the nomination. His son Rand would be an excellent choice. The Republican party deserves better choices than what we are being offered: Retreads, flat treads, same old. The McCains, Gingrichs, etc need to go away and let the party fix itself. Don’t forget, billary is looming large (no pun intended)and just waiting for a bite of the apple..

      • AZ Don

        You are 100% correct.

        • aubreyfarmer

          Ron Paul supporters will not be deterred this time. Regardless of how much “trolling”, I will vote for liberty.

          • Joe H.

            aubrey,
            AMEN my friend!! Ron Paul, even if I have to write him in!!!

      • Deerinwater

        Your thinking process is exactly why I believe in 2008 it was McCain’s election to lose. Which he did.

        If McCain had told GOP leadership, to put a sock in it and ran his campaign his way and had been permitted to be the man that he really was, he’d won the election.

        What choice would rank and file GOP be left with at the voting polls?

        Thank God that did not happen or McCain would be President today.

        • Tom W.

          “Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” – M.L.K. Jr.

        • Deb Johnson

          McCain wrote the language into to the National Defense Authorization Act, that allows the president to be judge and jury for American Citizens, indefinetly detaining them without right to lawyer or trial. This is not someone who I would trust to walk my dog, much less be presiden!

          • Deb Johnson

            ….and only 7 senators voted against this atrocity! People better wake up!

      • DaveH

        JimBob says “Ron Paul has as much chance as I do”.
        What will you be trying to tell us next, JB?
        That you have as much knowledge about matters economic as Ron Paul does?
        That you have as much knowledge about matters of Freedom as Ron Paul does?

        • Lynne

          Ron Paul has as much chance of winning the nomination as We The People give him. Vote your principles and tune out the media brainwashing to the contrary.

          Ron Paul in 2012 is the *only* choice to prevent the final downfall of this country.

          • Blue Devil

            Lynne — Ron Paul had my vote in ’08, and still has it!!! IMHO, he is the only REAL conservative in the race.

      • Southwesterner

        JimBob:
        If Romney becomes the candidate AFTER every state has held its primary or caucus, they yes. I would support him. But I will not support him based on the less than one percent who have voted.

        Lets have a vote for the more than 99 percent.

      • Mark in LA

        No JimBob we must not! We must vote our conscience no matter what. Romney cannot win, period. His stint as vulture capitalist is a kiss of death to the white working class who the Republicans need badly to win. The Republican party as presently constituted needs to die and the sooner the better.

      • Mark Are

        Sorry, before I vote for Romney or Obama, I’ll just avoid voting. Why should I have to vote for TWO EVIL men who care nothing about the Constitution or any of US? You go ahead and vote for one or the other and in the process vote our country down the toilet. I don’t want it on my conscience.

        • Mark Are

          It would be like voting for the guy who is going to hang me, or voting for the members of a firing squad that is going to shoot me. WTF is wrong with you people?

    • GeorgeC

      Lets not forget the overall objective of this election and that is to get rid of BHO. We are at a point where we MUST get Obama out of the White House with a “Republican”, be he Tea Party or not. One step and a time my fellow Americans, One step at a time. Once the GOP has picked their man then we MUST put up a solid front and get this person elected.

      • Mark in LA

        What did Obama do that Bush before him didn’t? No difference as far as I can see. Why not send the Republican Party to an early grave and maybe next time it will represent us.

      • http://lamebrained-ideas.blogspot.com C.Davis

        I see the useful ones have drunk deeply from the smiling pitcher.They are either blissfully unaware or willfully ignorant of the fact that”Big Defense” companies like GE control the speech of their idealogues through stock options and other means too complicated to go into here.I guess the same goes for their awareness that Romney’s “venture capital” company owns Clear Channel. Fellow Americans, THEY LIE TO YOU. I don’t know how to be any clearer for you. They are laying out a strategy for you that gave Obama the White House over “Bomb Bomb” McCain in ’08. You should know that “lining up” behind the candidate will not give you the victory. It may get you close, but Obama’s camp owns the voting machinery, the only way to beat him is with a landslide and you must face up to the fact that Romney is not going to inspire that landslide. A silver spoon war monger with a similar agenda will not sway the nescessary hordes of independents and irate democrats to jump ship from O, There are just too many negatives for too many people., not the least of which being that he is purportedly a Mormon.
        You can see that Obama is drawing down in Iraq for just such a purpose as proving that he is not such a pospotus as everyone knows him to be, But it will be enough to overcome whomever the republican manipulators get the usefuls to dutifully line up behind, because most will give him as incumbent the benefit of the doubt, as occured in ’08.
        The only exception to that scenario is Ron Paul. With GOPers lined up along with the vast majority of independents(60% of voters self identify as such)who are sick of the dead babies laid at their doorsteps,unemployment,foreclosure,etc., added to the Democrat protest vote(11% voted against O in New Hampshire, R.P. got 2322 write ins!) Now you add THOSE together you have a landslide. Otherwise a good case can be made for a Ron Paul third party candidacy in the interest of the representation of the people, rather than of the oligarchical media. Which might result in a three way tie,and it could be anybody’s ballgame, but would at least accomplish the demise of the bilateral two party dictatorial system we’ve labored under for too long, and which many principled republicans will not support any longer, since the malmanaged GOP will be pushing up daisies.

        • http://lamebrained-ideas.blogspot.com C.Davis

          Oh, and as a P.S. you should know that Dr.Paul doesn’t get any of that GE or clear channel money to run his campaign. All his funding is from individual citizens and servicemen. Would it kill you to help bolster their investments in liberty for their offspring? Go on over to RonPaul2012 and donate 20 smackers. I’m surviving at roughly 1/2 the poverty level and I still give when my civic duty calls, Just as Ron did when the military called him, he could have gotten out of going but his country was asking…

          • JeffH

            Did that yesterday!

            Ron Paul 2012!

        • Mark Are

          It’s good to see that there are few folks with some reason, logic and common sense on here.

    • http://matthewsworks.com Matthew Felton

      This comment points to the real battle. I have voted Rep. my whole life. The last two times based on this “lesser of two evils” philosphy. No More, I’m done. I now believe this type of defeated attitude is the real problem. What diference does it make (except who enters the deadly cold waters first) what side of the boat you stand on if the ship is the Titanic? It is time for us faithful people to have some faith, and we may lose this particular battle in the process,but if more of us draw a line in the sand now, maybe next time others will be compelled to join us and the war could eventually be won.
      Let us not forget this is ultimately a war between unseen principalties of good and evil, and it has become quite apparent that both the Democratic and Republican parties are in the contol of evil. If those of us in America who actually call ourselves Christian would actually put our vote in a true morally sound and Christian candidate, and our prayers to the ONE who rides the white horse; there is nothing we could not overcome.

      • http://lamebrained-ideas.blogspot.com C.Davis

        AMEN, brother!

      • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

        Exactly right, Matthew Felton. I’d rather get screwed by four more years of Obama if it sent a strong message to the Republican Party: reform or die. The Obamination is good for one thing: waking people up. People are waking up all over the place. It’s the Republican Party that hasn’t woken up yet. (Ex-)Republicans like me can and will vote with our feet. I don’t want to see 4 more years of Obama, but I would accept it for the chance at reclaiming our country that would come afterward. People who insist on voting for the slightly-lesser of two evils are just letting the game go on longer. And the longer we let them play the game, the more irrevocably we will all be tied to tyrrany and slavery by the time people realize what has happened to them.

    • Brian

      What you fail to understand is that it is the independents that will decide the election. And as has been stated, some of us wont vote for Romney simply he is who the Party annointed. Romney is somply the white half of Obama.

      • william

        Brian,
        So I guess you would rather have 4 more years of Obama, who we already know DOES NOT support the constitution? I personally would rather vote Republican and take a chance something GOOD will come from it, than vote for someone I ALREADY KNOW doesn’t want the country to survive!!

        • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

          william,

          ??

          You haven’t figured out yet that the Republican Party doesn’t want the country to survive either?

        • Joe H.

          william,
          Get off the R/D dynamo!!!! There is NO DIFFERENCE between the two!!! They are different sides of the SAME COIN!!! There is only ONE person that will run a different route and that is Dr. Ron Paul!!!!!!

          • Robert Smith

            IMO Ron Paul isn’t a real MD when the health of the woman isn’t considered during a pregnancy.

            An extremist is an extremist regardless of right or left.

            Rob

          • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

            Robert Smith wrote: “IMO Ron Paul isn’t a real MD when the health of the woman isn’t considered during a pregnancy.”

            The health of the woman and her baby are the only considerations from the point of view of the ob-gyn, which is what Ron Paul is (yes, an ob-gyn is an MD). Where is your evidence that that RP doesn’t consider the health of the woman during her pregnancy? Or are you just calling people names again?

          • libertytrain

            rob states time and time again that babies in the womb are acorns. So perhaps he was thinking tree doctor – he gets confused easily it seems.

          • JeffH

            libertytrain, rob who? :)

          • Joe H.

            robbie,
            Hey bubba, R. Paul believes in abortion only in the case of rape, incest and, Get this, if the pregnancy THREATENS the womans life!! Guess that blows your theory all to hell and gone!!!

  • M.Alice Woolard

    well written Bob, The MEDIA has shved Rommey down our throats 24/7. Just heard last night on Fox that his Grandfather & Father were both born in Mexico, I wonder if his father was legal when Mitt was born?

    • Bruce D.

      There is so much disinformation on this site it is ludicrous. Here is a little information about Romney’s past. Romney was born in Detroit, Michigan.[1] He was the youngest child of George W. Romney, who by 1948 had become an automobile executive, and Lenore Romney (née LaFount). His mother was a native of Logan, Utah, and his father had been born in a Mormon colony in Chihuahua, Mexico, to American parents.[2] Romney’s ancestry is predominantly English, as well as Scottish and German.[3]

      • Michael J.

        Bruce D.
        Here is the Wikipedia take on George Romney.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Romney

        • Robert Smith

          Does that mean that Wikikipedia is correct when it states that Obama was born in Hawaii?

          I can’t help but wonder if the birthers are gonna go nuts over Romney.

          Rob

      • BSG

        And he speaks French!!! Horrors.

      • Joe H.

        George Romney was a do NOTHING governor of Michigan!!! He accomplished NOTHING good, just like Mitt accomplished nothing GOOD as governor of Mass!!! Just what the hell do you think is going to make him CHANGE???? As the old saying goes, ONCE A DOG, ALWAYS A DOG!! or in other words ONCE A DOG, YOU GONNA HAVE TO SPRAY FOR FLEAS!!!

    • GRusling

      You were listening to Geraldo Rivera, famous liberal, and you should know better than to believe him.

      Mitt’s Grandparents were both born in Utah, moved to Mexico when young, with their parents, MARRIED in Mexico where Mitt’s Father (George) was born, then moved BACK to the US in 1912, when young George was just 5 years old. They never returned to live in Mexico after that time, and they never gave up their US Citizenship during their time in Mexico.

      That’s the truth, no matter what “Geraldo” believes or says…

      • Tom W.

        Did ya ever get the feeling that Geraldo’s shaving mirror has had more kisses blown at it than the British commoners?!

        • aubreyfarmer

          When Rivera was trashing the “truther” movement he was getting a lot of face time on main stream media outlets. Now that he has softened his position his voice has fallen silent. Google “The Hasbara Project”

          • Joe H.

            Somebody needs to ask Geraldo about his escapades of chasing Bett Midler around her changing room against her wishes during her heyday!!!

    • Robert Smith

      About Romney: “Just heard last night on Fox that his Grandfather & Father were both born in Mexico, I wonder if his father was legal when Mitt was born?”

      I wonder if the Birthers will focus on that as they have on Obama…

      Or is that old right wing double standard going to fly again.

      Rob

      • Joe H.

        Robert,
        It depends on if he can show a Bonified long form birth certificate! I’d be willing to bet he WILL, unlike Adumber!!!

      • Thinking about

        Probably your belief in everything you hear on faux news will lead you to repeat stories which are untrue. Facts is not their strong point.

  • Barbara Clark

    Personally I do not think the Republican Party is tearing itself apart.
    It’s the conservatives like you who are tearing it apart.
    What Obama has done to our country (so far and still has time to do more damage) we need to speak out about it more and emphasize the things that he has done.
    I am for Mitt Romney and you seem to be jumping to conclusions on what he will do if elected. How do you
    KNOW?????

    • Carlucci

      Pull your head out, Barbara Clark. You cannot see the forest for the trees. It is people like you that have led us down the primrose path to destruction. Mitt Romney is nothing but a RINO, which is a democrat’s evil twin. WAKE UP – !!

      RON PAUL 2012 – !!

      • Stephan F.

        You may as well save your breath Carlucci. Ms. Clark appears to be just another one of those intellectually dishonest souls living in a sea of neo-conservatism. Just like those supporters of Mr. Zero, she lives in la-la land.

        http://www.conservapedia.com/Neoconservatism

        • aubreyfarmer

          I see it every day in the woman I am married to. She will do something stupid or careless and when confronted with the facts, the first thing out of her mouth is an excuse. Never willing to accept responsibility as the first response which would settle the matter and it would be over and done with. Instead, even knowing that what she has done was stupid or irresponsible, she tries to shift the blame by changing the subject or making up an excuse that has absolutely nothing to do with the matter at hand. It is a good thing that I take my wedding vows seriously because times like this I question why I ever married her. For better or worse.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Sorry guy, but the woman chooses the man who chooses her.

          • Stephan F.

            Some good points there, Mr. Farmer. And I’m sure you’ll agree those apply as well to both sexes.

          • Joe H.

            for you to vocalize about your wife in that manner serves to show just how unlucky a woman she is!!! Instead of trying to show her the errors of her ways politely, you, instead try to shame her. Way to go bubba!!!

          • Stephan F.

            Joe H:

            You political correctness is nauseating — go pack sand.

          • libertytrain

            good grief….

          • http://deleted Claire

            Real nice guy–bashing your own wife on this site. Wonder what she thinks of you?

          • JeffH

            Claire, It would be interesting what he’s say about her “behind” her back? :)

          • Joe H.

            Stephan F,
            It has nothing to do with PC, a point that you would recognize had you been married for a little while like me! My wonderful wife and I made 35 years this past month of December!! We don’t always agree, but I would NEVER try to belittle her, I would try to build her up and by doing so, show her that she is my PARTNER in this crazy ride called life!! she has given me three beautiful children and over half of her life, why would I even think of belittling her??

    • Bruce D.

      I like Romney also Barbara. I think he will make a good president. He will put fiscal sanity back in Washington. Also Iran should not have a nuke.

      • professor

        Bruce, Ron Paul supporters will never like anyone but Ron Paul. It wouldn’t matter if the other candidate were perfect….

        RP is his own worst enemy, because of some of the things he says and the way he explains his foreign policy…Perception is everything!

        He needs someone to advise him how to talk to the voters. Most people don’t understand or agree with what they are hearing. What they are “hearing” may not be exactly what he is “saying.”

        I am not in support of any candidate, but like that RP wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve Bank… I feel that is one of the things that has priority and none of the other candidates have mentioned the Fed..

        • Mark Are

          Why should ANYONE have a nuke? Romney is a big government big spending 264 million dollar vulture. Why would you want him to eat off your bones?

    • dave

      HOW DO YOU KNOW? Duh, look at his past performance, Mitwit! He has Romney(Ombney)care, as an example. He says he is against it but refuses to say he will repeal it. He says he will put out an executive order, which you would agree is what Hussien Obama does to skirt the constitution, to give all 50 states a waiver! A waiver does not REPEAL IT! It gives the state the option to decline it but the money is still alloted for the program. That is what Obumer gave to all the big comapanies, so they don’t have to impliment the regulations that they know would destory their business. Wake up you MITWIT! Romney is a PROGRESSIVE. He can’t or won’t call a spade a spade, or a socialist a socialist.

    • eddie47d

      Bruce; Some of you put too much emphasis on Romney’s business experience when running the government is a whole lot different than running a corporation. America is not a corporation and some of you want to cannibalize it like Romney has done to his companies. Then you might really get an America that is unrecognizable. Were a few benefit and you’re left with many losers. One thing for sure you will have continual wars in the Middle East as if the others haven’t been costly enough.

      • professor

        Eddie, if America were run like a corporation (and some think that it is already) we would have to have a balanced budget with a profit incentive, and we wouldn’t be 16 Trillion dollars in debt. Billions of dollars wouldn’t be thrown away on project that were sure to fail, and investors would make sure they knew everything about the new CEO!

      • eddie47d

        Not necessarily for they ate totally different animals. It could work in some departments and be a total failure in others.

    • Brian

      Barbara, Mitt Romney IS Obama. Comments like yours really make me wonder if all this Obama hatred really is about his skin color.

    • JeffH

      Barbara says “I am for Mitt Romney and you seem to be jumping to conclusions on what he will do if elected. How do you
      KNOW?????”

      I certainly wish more voters had “jumped to conclusions” with Barry, at least we might have had the lesser of two evils + the one bright spot for McCain…Sarah Palin. I’m not interested in the lesser evil now, evil is evil, whether GOP or Dem.

      Vote Ron Paul 2012!

      • http://deleted Claire

        JeffH– Good one.

      • Joe H.

        JeffH,
        Alas, i fear it would only have served to delay the inevetible!!! As long as we stay stuck on the lesser of two evils, we will unerringly run to evil!!!

  • gerryrichard

    oh my,we dont slobber over ronnie the paul on this site do we?…i hear he has invested in tinfoil,as it appears that is his view of the latest fashion trend..bash everyone but loonie ron here…

    • Larry B

      I totally agree with you gerryrichard!

      • cawmun cents

        The only thing more hilarious than your lack of reasoning,is the fact that you post twice under different names to back yourself up.
        Nice tactic loser.
        -CC.

      • http://none R Paul or status quo

        If you’re talking about Ron Paul’s investments, it’s gold and gold stocks mainly. No tin foil. What is it you don’t like about the Constitution and Bill of Rights? Please explain as I would like to know.

        • Joe H.

          R. Paul or…,
          Had a man invested 10,000 dollars in gold twenty years ago, he could possibly retire now!! Dang, that R. Paul is so backward in his investment strategy!!! To think he actually wants to MAKE MONEY on his investments!! How crude!!! SATIRE ENDS HERE!!

          • Mark Are

            If you had “invested” 10,000 Federal Reserve Accounting Unit Devices (F.R.A.U.D.) for short, in 1964, you would have been able to “buy” (steal with worthless paper) 281.75 ounces of gold. Today you could cash it in for about 477,700 FRAUD’s. What else could you have that much “gain” in worthless paper with? IF we had a CONSTITUTIONAL money system, someone who had SAVED that 281 ounces could still buy the same thing today as in 1964. Cars would still be $3500, labor would still be $1.00 an hour for a bagger at a grocery store. Gasoline would still be .25 cents a gallon and your savings wouldn’t have gone POOOFFFF…

          • Mark in LA

            Actually no you couldn’t gold was 850 in 1980 and spend the next 20 years going down. Even if you bould it at its low in 2001 it was 250 then, it is only 6.5 times higher.

          • Jefferson Thomas

            @ Mark Are,

            Mark have you been reading the bible again?

            Proverbs 16:11 A just weight and balance are the Lord’s: all the weights of the bag are his work.

            Proverbs 11:1 A False balance is abomination to the Lord: but a just weight is his delight.

    • FreedomFighter

      We are living in the last days of life as we have known it.

      The Accelerating Disintegration of America

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65xoywRle3E&feature=uploademail

      Sir watch the above, Ron Paul, maybe the only real choice.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

    • DaveH

      Gerry and Larry,
      Your attack on Ron Paul tells us nothing except that you prefer vague baseless personal attacks over facts.
      Why bother commenting?

      • Bruce M. in S.C.

        Dave H.
        Obviosly, you don,t want America to be defended from our enemies across the world RonPaul’s plan to pull all our troops around the world home is ludicrous. They would have no jobs here. He should drop out and let electable candidates beat romney. He just wants publicity!

        • Mark in LA

          If there are no jobs for them better they are in the US working for the Army Corp of Engineers building dykes and repairing bridges rather than in a foreign country sending our money out.

        • JeffH

          Bruce, you make no “cents”!

          Ron Paul 2012!

        • Mark Are

          Yes, you are so correct. We need to blow up bridges in Iraq and then rebuild them to keep the soldiers working. Instead of just rebuilding the ones here that are falling down. Duh?

        • DaveH

          They get paid, Bruce, whether they’re here or there. At least here they wouldn’t be helping to increase the number of enemies who want to attack our country.

    • Pepper

      No, I guess we should just all slobber over who ever the media tells us to because they have an “R” next to their name. Never mind that Mitt, Newt, Sant all support the same things that Obama supports, Carbon taxes,Romney care, big gov., more wars,…on and on. Just change on cheap suit for another. It’s not okay if the “D”s do it, but It’s okay if the “R”s do it??? It’s okay if they support the NDAA bill as long as “your” team is in office??

  • Willy

    When a nation loses it’s desire to do right, it dies. We are dying. People who don’t learn from history eventually self destruct. It’s not like we wern’t warned. When Israel wanted a king like other nations, what happened? Read it and weep.

    • aubreyfarmer

      The moral decay from within will result in the total collapse of our Republic.

    • Mark Are

      Worse yet, we “vote” for our “kings”. I think I know how Samuel must have felt…

      • OB1

        I agree, no kidding.

  • Mo

    Ron Paul’s domestic policies are as practical and excellent as his foreign policy is impractical and bad. My son is in the Army with 3 Middleeast deployments, so I have every desire to believe Ron Paul, but I do not. There is sufficient evidence (40 years at least) that radical Muslims hate us and want to destroy us. Burying our heads in the sand, in isolationism, as Ron Paul suggests, will not succeed. Isolationism will not work any better than Obam’s “talking to them” strategy worked.

    They hate us. They want to kill us, and will stop at nothing to do so. It’s time to stop drinking the cool aid and stop them.

    • Lynne

      Ron Paul is not an isolationist. Ron Paul is a non-interventionist. Why do the people of the world hate us so much in the first place? Because we’re bullies. Because we’ve stuck our noses into places they don’t belong. Ron Paul quotes Thomas Jefferson … “free and friendly trade with all, entangling alliances with none.” Butting into other people’s business tends only to piss them off.

      • Ted Crawford

        The difference between Ron Pauls non-interventionism and isolationism is the exact difference between dead and deceased, the spelling!

      • Wyatt

        Not an isolationist ? A non-interventionist ? You are merely playing semantics . The world does not permit countries such action in these modern times . Modern technology has shrunk the world so that events happening on the far side affect us all in short order . Business has dealings of some sort with practically every country in the world .
        And if you look at the stress and demands of the office of President ,I have serious doubts that Ron Paul would survive his elected term leaving us at some point with a vice-president in charge that would have been chosen by Ron Paul . Usually some one who would not be a viable threat to the president and was only a substitute for official state visits in third world countries . One has only to look at what we have been stuck with , or what we might have benn stuck with . Lyndon Johnson ? Joe Biden ?
        None of those on the playing board is an ideal option , and I will back the party choice . However in my view Ron Paul is the worst choice of all. He is unrealistic in his world views and be the source of more problems than we have in the world now . This alone overshadows whatever good his domestic agenda might do for America

        • the unfortunate truth

          If you believe the republicans are any different with the exception of ron paul than the democrats . Than you are gullible . They say different things reps and dems but act the same . They won’t repeal obama care and if they do they will bring a watered down version of obama care . They won’t lower taxes , and if they do it will be so small it won’t make a difference in your life. For supply side economics to work ,you have to have real budget cuts and real tax cuts . Paul is the only that is serious about it . If you think these other republicans will change energy policy , you are gullible , no offense . Ron paul is the only one that is true to republican values and conserving the republic . We have made strides in some ways in this country but we have abandoned the principles that made this country a great free nation and break the shackles of the european ways . We have let people move this country to the ways of europe the last 100 years and look where it has gotten us. Time to get back to values and value .
          Ron paul 2012

        • Joe H.

          Wyatt,
          do you own a dictionary?? I suggest you USE it for something besides lifting you up at the dinner table! There is a very BIG difference between the two! an Isolationist is what Japan was before the US opened them up to trade. A non-interventionist is what Switzerland is NOW! They deal with the rest of the world, they purchase their products, they deal politically with them to a point and they don’t cross that point. they have ambassadors to other countries, but they do NOT meddle in other countries affairs. this has worked for them for the length of their exhistance as a country.

    • Realist

      That being the case, We have a couple million living here in this country. Their hatred for us and our way of life may be the way we have treated them over the last decades. Telling a severn country how to rule, conduct business, and to get along with their neighbors is not a very good way of maintaining friends. Some nations do not want our way of life and you just cannot civilize the masses who reject our way of life. We forced our way on lotsa folks in the middle east and small wonder they despise us. Would you want a whold bunch of arabs invading us and going house to house arresting and executing your friends with illegal torture? I think not.

      • Aniko

        You Ron Paul supporters are such a lost cause that it is futile to even try to reason with you. You claim that 9/11 happened because we asked for it! That is treason against your own nation!

        • DaveH

          Aniko,
          None of us know the Truth about 9/11, and we probably will not for at least 50 years. But the facts are that we’ve been meddling in middle-east affairs for over 50 years.
          Just what do you expect? If your neighbor came over and pestered you, coerced you, and forced you to conduct your private affairs his way, would you think retaliation was wrong?

          • DaveH

            Here, by the way, is the truth about the Pearl Harbor attack for anybody who wants to lift the Propaganda Blinders that we’ve all had installed during our lifetimes:
            http://mises.org/books/pearl_harbor_greaves.pdf

            Leaders are liars. Anybody who just believes whatever they tell us, without investigation and some hard thinking, is very deluded.

          • aubreyfarmer

            The hell I don’t know the truth. Google “Able Danger” or “Sibel Edmonds” The attacks were facilitated by our own government so the “false flag” could be used as a pretext to liberty destroying legislation like NDAA. YouTube “911 Loose Change.” 10 years and there are still millions that don’t have a clue. Some of the very same people involved in the 93 World Trade Center bombing were involve in the 911 attack. Bin Laden was a CIA asset and under CIA care at Rawapendi military hospital receiving dialysis on the day of the attack. The Taliban and the CIA are also creations of the CIA. Ignorance if the best weapon the Zionists that control our government has. Google “The Hasbara Project”

        • Pepper

          Treason is what is “IN” the NDAA and SOPA bill. TREASON is letting the Banks an Wall street rip off millions and not making them accountable for the damage. Ignorance is not knowing, stupidity is being ignorant by choice.

        • JeffH

          Aniko, if you consider Ron Paul’s respect and adherence to the US Constitution as your definition of treason, then it is your definition of treason I shall support and vote for.

          Ron Paul 2012!

        • Joe H.

          Aniko,
          Before you call someone a treasonist, I suggest you fight for this country for awhile. I love this country and I don’t want to see it destroyed by constant meddling in other countries internal affairs. they have done this for over a hundred years. While this may have been safe during the time of sailing ships and cannons being top weapons, it doesn’t work at all in a time of nuclear weapons that can vaporize a city in seconds!! If you are of Japanese decent as your name suggests, you above all, should know this!!

      • Robert Smith

        From Realist: “Some nations do not want our way of life and you just cannot civilize the masses who reject our way of life. ”

        Why is our way of life the only “civilized” way of life?

        For example, the Romans had an excellent infrastructure with water, sewers, and other services for the people.

        Were the dark ages that followed (led by religion) more “civilized?”

        Rob

        • DaveH

          At least the Religious followers are trying (for the most part) to adhere to some kind of moral code. I can’t say the same for Liberals.

          • professor

            Dave, liberals also come from a weak and a feminine place… Think about it..

          • cawmun cents

            What Mr/Ms.Smith fails to comrehend is that the”Dark Ages”werent called the dark ages because of religion.
            They were called that name because those who thought like Mr./Ms.Smith,were running amok through Europe doing as they pleased.
            Huns,Vandals,Vikings,were just the tip of the iceberg at that time.
            They were known as the Dark Ages because of the affliction of paganism on the religious.
            Just like a true liberal,Mr./Ms.Smith,has the order of things confused.They twist and turn things upside down in their abject deviancies,expecting the rest of us to be prone to their revisionist brainwashing techniques.
            Thanks but no thanks,that would likely also make me prone to re-electing Omamba.Aint gonna happen.
            -CC.

          • Robert Smith

            DaveH says: “At least the Religious followers are trying (for the most part) to adhere to some kind of moral code.”

            Yup. The Mealeious Malificarum. Ug, what an awful book. Yet, it ruled the church for a hundred years.

            Rob

          • Robert Smith

            cents says: “They were known as the Dark Ages because of the affliction of paganism on the religious.”

            Pagans were around long before christians. They had effective herbal remidies (that were detested by the church) for many things. They established hollidays for things like the winter solstice that were hijacked by the church (the church called it christmas).

            Rob

          • Joe H.

            Robbie,
            you defy all logic!!! You curse all religeon and then in the same sentence praise a religeon!!! Paganism is considered a religeon of PLACE!!! you are so blinded by hate, you can’t even see your own nose with a mirror, dudette!!!

          • DaveH

            Robert, I’m sure you know I’m Atheist, but I’d take Religious people over your kind any day of the week.

        • Jefferson Thomas

          Relationship with God (Yaweh, Yeshua, the Infinite I AM) has been around long before the organized religions of Judaism and Christianity eg. Adam and Eve, Enoch, Job.

          The pagan religions of the world have their roots in the religion of Nimrod in the area now known as Iraq before the kingdom of Babylon.

          What you refer to as “Christianity” that was responsible for the dark ages (partially) was in fact a mixture of statism, christianity, and paganism that was used by Constantine to consolidate his power over the Roman empire with one religion. Like another empire of the modern age (can you guess its’ name?) Rome was spread to thin, was drowning in debt, and was morally and spiritually corrupt. This led to the fall of the Roman Empire.

    • Carlucci

      Mo, if what you are saying about the middle east is really true, then why didn’t all of this “they hate our freedoms” and terrorism start up fifty years ago? Has it ever occurred to you that maybe these imperialistic invasions from the U.S. has started all the trouble between us and them? What would you do if a foreign army invaded your town and marched down the street firing weapons?

      Sending our troops thousands of miles away to “protect our freedoms” over here is absurd. Read your history. That is the definition of cannon fodder. I would only feel that my freedoms were being protected if U.S. soldier boots on the ground were here on our turf protecting us from all of the illegals and unsavory characters who are allowed to come into America.

      Wake up.

      RON PAUL 2012 – !!!

    • Rayma Dorsa

      You couldn’t be more wrong about RON PAUL, I am 80 and have followed what our Gov is doing almost all my life.Study the NEW WORLD ORDER,even the Bible talks about it,it is a conspiracy to take over the world and kill off many of us as they can,America is the last to go, it doesn’t make any difference whether you are Democrat or Republican, they are chosen by the EU and big bankers, that is why Ron Paul wants to get the Fed Reserve OUT. All these wars have been started by the “eletes” who payand play “both sides” of the war. Our boys are at war at the whim of the “big players” It’s a chess game to them,they don’t care about our boys or America. listen to the service men & women who see the truth,it is thier lives that are at stake.Who do you think killed Kennedy,after he said he wanted to get rid of the Fed Reserve.(thier search engine to steal our money)everyone running except Ron Paul are the same as Obama a “Puppet”for the “big Players”

      • aubreyfarmer

        Watch the video “Benjamin Freedman’s 1961 Speech” on YouTube and the truth of this elder gentleman’s remark will become apparent.

    • http://matthewsworks.com Matthew Felton

      If our true motive is to stop radical muslims, then why did we fund them and put them in control of Libya? I have the utmost respect for those who protect us, so let’s make sure they are not used as pawns by those who couldn’t care less about true American freedom.

    • Mark Are

      Let me see…Do you believe the BIBLE? Well if you do, here is a good one for you…Jesus just tells everyone: (Luke 6:27-36)[27] “But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, [28] bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. [29] If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. [30] Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. [31] Do to others as you would have them do to you. [32] “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ love those who love them. [33] And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ do that. [34] And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ lend to ‘sinners,’ expecting to be repaid in full. [35] But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. [36] Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. And then a few sentences later says “But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.” -Luke 19:27…Hmmmm…sounds like either a major contradiction or possibly Christianity is a VERY VIOLENT religion that wants to kill Muslims. I think that it is a violent religion. Just look at what has been done in the name of it since it was “revealed”. ME? I’ll take Thomas Paine’s religion any day over ALL the worlds revealed religions…THE WORLD is my COUNTRY, MANKIND are my brothers and TO DO GOOD is my religion. Trash the rest.

      • Jefferson Thomas

        context my friend, context. historical, personal, familial, business, governmental, world, universal, time, timeless eternal. perhaps you should review all you quoted and read in context, and when your finite mind has integrated the infinite, get back to me on your opinions of God and Christianity and I will consider your opinions.

      • Jefferson Thomas

        can you explain what a parable is Mark?

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You are full of Cr-p. Go study the Bible again.

      • eddie47d

        Mark is right Christians have a different code of conduct if you really know the Bible. Those sinners(thieves) who steal from a Christians are evil but God says not to seek revenge. Those thieves will also lose things in life or have things stolen from them so they will get their dues…in due time.

        • Jefferson Thomas

          what is the difference between revenge and justice? What is the role of government as in Romans 13:4?

  • Lynne

    I’ve been wondering why the Tea Party movement hasn’t thrown its full support behind Ron Paul. Why is the movement divided? Seems a no-brainer to me … :/

    • lostinparadise

      I wrote an email to the T-Party, and was told that Paul would not attend any of their events, so that is why they would not.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      There are many reasons. One he would be 79 years old when he would be sworn in as President. He is too old. He has an unrealistic foreign policy, in many minds. He would not win the general election for those reasons. He can never win the Republican nomination. Although I plan to vote for him in the Missouri Primary, it is only because Newt will not be on the ballot. Fortunately, the Missouri Primary is just a beauty contest. The real action is in the caucus process.

      • DaveH

        Crony Capitalist at Birth says — “He would be 79 years old when he would be sworn in as President. He is too old”.
        It’s a pity that we can no longer learn from our wise elders. Ron Paul is one of the few Politicians who isn’t there just to feather his own nest. He is one of the few who really understands economics. He is one of the few who has consistently voted Constitutionally. The fact that he can out-debate any of his younger opponents, at his old age, doesn’t speak very well for the other candidates.
        It seems odd to me that a guy who calls himself “Capitalist” would spend so much time disparaging the only Presidential Candidate who truly believes in Free Markets.
        It seems odd to me that a guy who calls himself “Capitalist” would rather support candidates who want to bully other countries into submission, than to support a candidate who wants to trade Freely and Peacefully with other countries.

        • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

          And didn’t Ron Paul challenge all the other candidates to a triathlon or something?

          Last I heard, not one had taken him up on it….

        • aubreyfarmer

          I see the wisdom of his age as a positive that can not be turned into a negative by the ignorance of those suffering from a lifetime of manipulation at the hands of a media that only wishes to maintain the status quo.

        • Capitalist at Birth

          There you go again, calling me names with no evidence to back it up. I will not respond to your name calling in the future. You make an ass out of your self when you make assumptions. Get a life and quite wasting so much time stroking the keyboard. You obviously have too much time on your hands.

          • Mark Are

            Name calling? I just read a guy telling it like it is. Must hurt since it is the truth.

          • Joe H.

            called you a name?? OH, right he DID!! He called you capitalist!!! Wait, that’s part of the name you WANT to be called by!! How dare DaveH do such a thing!!! CAB, you need to grow a little thicker skin!!! Or quit trying to follow the Alinsky so CLOSE!!!

          • Stephan F.

            C.A.B:

            Dave H is at times an arrogant, dogmatic, rigid, one-track-minded big mouth. But his posting here is completely accurate and he has you pegged to a tee. I’ve listened to your yapping about Dr. Ron Paul for so long now that you sound like a broken record — your arguments are completely specious. This is most unfortunate, as you seem to have an understanding & appreciation of what Laissez-faire capitalism is. Too bad.

            I must add that you are also guilty of intellectual dishonesty, like most detractors of Ron Paul. So just what part of the status quo are you trying to protect?

          • DaveH

            Stephan,
            Do you think your personal attacks mean anything to the people on this board? We’re looking for truth and Freedom here, not adolescent manipulative techniques such as yours.

    • Robert Smith

      Lynne asks: “I’ve been wondering why the Tea Party movement hasn’t thrown its full support behind Ron Paul.”

      Because the Tea Party “movement” is a contrived effort encouraged by the media to support the status quo for the top 1%.

      Remember, the “media” is made up of very large corporations. There ain’t no such thing as “liberal” media. Those who strey are hit with so many regulations they are beaten into submission.

      Rob

      • DaveH

        Robert,
        Do you really think there is Honor among Thieves?
        Liberals, whether the Leaders or the Followers, have a problem with morality. They want to take other peoples’ money, and it’s all downhill from there.
        Of course the Liberal Media aren’t really moral. They are just doing what the rest of you Liberals want to do — Helping Themselves. And that means supporting the Candidates who will say whatever it takes to lure the Unprincipled Liberal voters (those who think they want Big Government) to their sides. In the end, the Liberal Leaders (including Media) could care less about the Liberal Followers. They are just throwing enough table scraps your way to get your Unprincipled Votes. As you deserve.

      • Sirian

        RS,
        Just where in hell did you come up with one of the most mentally twisted spins I’ve ever seen? “Because the Tea Party “movement” is a contrived effort encouraged by the media to support the status quo for the top 1%”. OK folks, if this isn’t a testament to idiocy at it’s finest I don’t know what is!

        • JeffH

          Sirian… :)

        • Robert Smith

          Hey Serian: ““Because the Tea Party “movement” is a contrived effort encouraged by the media to support the status quo for the top 1%”.”

          Well… What do they advocate that is good for the middle class?

          Health care… NOPE

          Lower taxes… NOPE

          Anything?

          Rob

          • JeffH

            Tea Party Platform
            http://www.teaparty-platform.com/
            The Tea Party Movement is an all-inclusive American grassroots movement with the belief that everyone is created equal and deserves an equal opportunity to thrive in these United States where they may “pursue life, liberty and happiness” as stated in the Declaration of Independence and guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States.

            No one is excluded from participation in the Tea Party Movement. Everyone is welcomed to join in seeking to achieve the Tea Party Movement goals, which are as follows:
            1. Eliminate Excessive Taxes
            2. Eliminate the National Debt
            3. Eliminate Deficit Spending
            4. Protect Free Markets
            5. Abide by the Constitution of the United States
            6. Promote Civic Responsibility
            7. Reduce the Overall Size of Government
            8. Believe in the People
            9. Avoid the Pitfalls of Politics
            10. Maintain Local Independence

          • Joe H.

            robbie,
            “Lower taxes? YES!!! they support lower taxes for EVERYONE by having a smaller government that won’t need so much of our tax dollars to operate!!! Again, you could see this if you weren’t so blinded by HATE!!!

    • Mark in LA

      The Tea party was hijacked by the Republican establishment and money, I used to get a laug out of the mailers where some group calling itself Tea Party was lead by Dick Armey. If ever there was an RNC shill he was it. He paid himself 700,000 a year out of your donations to boot.

  • Dawn Bruce

    I am removing myself from email list because of all ignorance I see in the articles etc…Why don’t you just help the DNC more….I am not a Republican Elite, and people vote in the primaries, you claim the “Party Elite” are picking our nominee, well you are trying to dictate whom we should vote for…

    • Rick

      I totally agree with your assessment Dawn. I fear there’s many on this thread that are so enamoured with an ideology or particular candidate that they can’t see that essentially they’ll ultimately be tacitly giving away the election to Obama.

      If Obama is re-elected as a lame duck President, the damage will be irreparable. WAKE UP PEOPLE…..ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!! I’d vote for my dog before I’d vote for OBAMA!!!

      • DaveH

        So you’ll vote for a candidate who will build Government larger, more imperceptibly than Obama? At least Obama through his bumbling impatience has unintentionally awakened many American Citizens to the concepts of Freedom.
        The Republican Leaders would have done it much more wisely. They would have patiently built Government ever larger until there came a time when, even though much smaller in numbers, the Leaders and their paid assassins could easily overwhelm any Freedom seekers with their high-technology weapons that we the slaves have built for them.
        Some of us have been blindered by the Propaganda for many years. Some of us still are.

        • Sirian

          I agree Dave,
          As I’ve said before, they’re playing both sides against the middle and WE’RE the middle. Both parties have been doing this for a very long time and people are just now starting to come to their senses.

      • cawmun cents

        Of course Fox News afilliates,vote for Obomney,and secure a place for your heads in the rumps of the worlders.
        -CC.

    • John

      Don’t go, stick around, as with all mailing lists and forums, there is the good, the bad, the ugly and the entertaining. Read them, enjoy them when you agree with them, laugh at them and discard them if you don’t.
      I mean common, its a great place of free entertainment by people from all ways of life…plus the occasional troll from either site.

  • Stephen

    I know it’s frustrating, but still, Obama must go. If Paul goes third party, which I am hoping he doesn’t have to, I’m afraid that it will be four more years of King Obamir’s reign to enslave Americans. Face it, it’s not the problems of just the Republican Party. The problems of America lie within the Progressive Party of both the Democrats and Republicans. They all need to go so we can get OUR America back on track. All Americans need to be properly educated and VOTE correctly. Do not listen to the talking heads in the media. Educate yourself to the facts and get it right.

    • Robert Smith

      From Stephen: “They all need to go so we can get OUR America back on track.”

      America where folks are dying because they can’t afford health insurance?

      America where those who are in love can’t participate in the CIVIL contract of marriage because they aren’t the “right” sex?

      America the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer?

      America where we have the highest population (by %) of our population in jail for stupid things like not accepting the christian recreational drug of choice (alcohol) and wanting an alternative?

      That isn’t MY America.

      In my America everyone is taken care of and small personal choices are left to the individual’s free will. IOW, and America of FREEDOM for its citizens.

      Rob

      • Angel Wannabe

        RS,
        : Ya want top of the line Health care, then work and pay for it yourself!
        : Ya wanna be in a relationship with someone of the same sex, go right ahead, nobody HAS to make it legal!
        : Ya want more money, get another job or become an Entrepreneur!
        : and last but not least “Alcohol, a Christian Drug of Choice”, REALLY???__ Where did this stupid line come from, whack job?

        • Stephen

          Angel, thank you. RS’s “In my America everyone is taken care of” is currently one of the biggest problems in America today. It seems they’re entitled to not have to work hard for anything and everything. Get real and get to work!

          • Joe H.

            Stephen,
            yup, in robbies world where welfare is king and robbie is in the line!!! See, robbie doesn’t want to lose his monthly stipend so he doesn’t have to work!!!! He’s allergic! To work, that is!!! Definately NOT to picking your pocket for what ever he can get for free!!! he makes big noise for his “Fellow” Americans when in FACT it is HE and he alone that he is worried about!!!

          • Jim

            Right on track there; Our Founding Documents (Declaration of Independance & Constitution) only states that we possess the Right to PURSUE happiness…As Benjamin Franklin has said, it’s up to us to catch it.

            Each of the Natural Rights bestowed upon us by the Creator carries an equal RESPONSIBILITY to defend it & exercise it…The primary responsibility involved with our Rights is to NOT violate the Equal Rights possessed by someone else while you exercise your own. While you have the Right to Pursue your own happiness, it does NOT give you the Right to prevent others in their pursuit. If you work to “earn your source of living,” does that give anyone else any Right to take from you & give it to someone who does NOT exercise their own Right to earn their Source of Living, or to keep the “fruits” of that theft for your own pursuit of happiness?

            Where the government & too many “special interest organizations” have been going wrong is that they seek to bestow extra privledges upon certain groups of people, at the expense of violating the Rights of others…None of the government’s Enumerated Powers give any authorization take our earnings & give them to people who don’t earn anything. Success takes effort, not theft.

        • Blue Devil

          Beautiful, Angel — Beautiful!!!!

      • DaveH

        Robert wants to turn our country into another Zimbabwe, or Cuba, or North Korea, with his sweet-sounding compassion for the destitute. But what Robert just doesn’t seem to get is that his path is not only IMMORAL (taking money from others is not Compassion, Robert, it is THEFT), BUT it DOESN’T work!
        The growth of Government is inversely proportional to the growth of a country’s economy.
        That has been proven throughout history. The larger Government gets, the smaller their country’s economy gets. And it’s so logically simple to understand why. Where do their dollars come from? From us, from the private sector, and protected as Government people are from the repercussions of bad decisions, why would anybody expect them to be as productive with that money as the Private Sector would be?
        But forget Logic, just look at actual experience from countries who have followed the Siren Song of Big Government advocates:
        http://heritage.org/index/ranking

        Can you believe that our once Free Country is now ranked lower than Chile? Thanks to well-intentioned but ignorant and immoral people like Robert.

        • Angel Wannabe

          DaveH, Franklin, said it best, “its a Republic if you can keep it!”

          If People like Robert & the rest of his pukes want Socialism, let em ride the hell outta dodge at sunset. I’m tired of they’re Anti-Americanism! I’m tired of they’re tried and FAILED push of they’re Ideology of it._The only thing I have to give them credit for is THEY DO TRY!__But the LIBS have FAILED, THEY’VE FAILED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE US!__I must ask Robert, Do You Hear Laughter Pharoah?

        • Robert Smith

          Posted: “Can you believe that our once Free Country is now ranked lower than Chile?”

          And our health care is almost the same level as Cuba.

          Unless you are one of the 1%.

          Rob

          • Joe H.

            Yeah, sure robbie, that’s why we have people comming here from Canada to get treatment! I don’t mean rich people, either!!! Canada has your kinda health care, robbie and it is so costly they are already talking of going BACK to a private insurer plan!! England has your type of crap robbie and they ALREADY have some going back to a health insurer as it is definately CHEAPER!!! But then Robbie doesn’t worry about people that are 70 years old being termed “not enough productive years of life left” to agressively treat them!!!

          • DaveH

            You and your creepy fellow Liberals made it that way, Robert. Before Big Government got their tentacles firmly entwined in the Medical Field, prices were very reasonable.

      • aubreyfarmer

        And don’t you just love it when liberals use splinter issues like gay marriage and abortion to try and separate people from their common sense. With issues like those mentioned an old tried and true tactic implemented to divide and conquer. Instead of people focusing on the larger issue of liberty, ending the unjust wars, corporate campaign contributions, CIA drug running, political assassination of American citizens, indefinite detention and the out of control spending, the sheep are herded into a pen and told what to think.

        • Karolyn

          It certainly isn’t just liberals who bring up abortion and gay marriage. The republican candidates use those issues all the time.

  • http://gmail.com john desmond

    good article. I will vote for either Obama or Ron Paul. The GOP candidates are deceitful clowns. Obama hasn’t done bad considering he inherited the Bush Chenney mess. And like Gingrich, another sexual wierdo, Bush was also a draft dodger with a powerful dad to cover up the tracks. I didn’t vote for Obama. But I’ll take him anyday over Gingrich et al. Your article is correct: they aren’t conservative. Neo cons are not conservative. If all these GOP guys are really just liberals in sheeps clothing, why not just vote Obama in again? As for someone controlling American politics from outside, it’s Israel. But with the Arab population in Israel proper, not West Bank or Gaza, growing rapidly, it won’t be too many years before Israel will have to stop its own form of terrorism. Israel is not a friend to the USA. I know; I’ve lived and worked there. Many religious Jews there and others are against the Zionist state. Don’t take my word for it; go there and see for yourself. I love seeing the GOP act like the clowns they are. Mazel Tov.

    • professor

      John states…”I will either vote for obama or Ron Paul???”

      • Karolyn

        Makes sense to me!

    • Joe H.

      john desmond,
      you DO know bush was a pilot in the national guard, don’t you??? funny way of dodging the draft!!! Now you want a good example of dodging the draft, just look at Clinton!!!! Bubba went to Oxford to dodge the draft AND demonstrated against the United States on foreign soil!!! BTW, I don’t like EITHER of them!!!

  • lostinparadise

    Yes Bob this article is the best and most accurate I have read so far.What a shame you are so correct about the events at hand. I feel like we are doomed and the greatest country that ever was is nothing more than a fleeting memory. With nothing much left to give, I think it may be getting close to “Lock and Load, Times up, We are Gonna Come Out Fightin”. May God Help us All!

  • Dwain

    With a one party system with two parts with different names we have allowed ourselves to be enslaved by the power elite. The exceleration of our loss of freedoms began with Pres. Wilson who was a front man for Col House and the Shadow government!

  • Straight Shooter

    Great article. Most comments are good too. I still see people who are swallowing the media’s misrepresentation of Ron Paul. When asked on Fox what would RP do if a situation arises in the Straits of Hormuz or anywhere in the world for that matter, RP responded, “Study the situation to see if it causes a threat to the USA. If it does, go to the congress for a declaration of war. Get in. Get the job done. Get out.” Why would anyone want a different approach to foreign policy than this constitutional response?

    • Stephen

      It’s not a wonder why most educational professionals want to take Constitutional American History out of schools. It gets in the way of their political agendas. Our American Founders weighed and measured the recipe for America carefully. We lose the recipe and our dinner is a disaster. Too many cooks.

      • martin

        You forgot the r in the last word of your post.

    • GRusling

      Your problem is logic. What you say is perfectly logical. It’s the common sense approach, and precisely in line with our constitution.

      If you keep talking like that all the Progressives on BOTH sides of the aisle will soon be calling you funny names…

      • Robert Smith

        It’s called “Swift Boating.”

        Rob

      • Stephen

        When the truth cannot be argued upon, it’s one of their only actions to pursue; name calling and attack the truth-monger.

        • Joe H.

          OH, robbie’s REAL GOOD at that!!!

  • D. Fayette

    Please explain the difference between an Authorization to use Military Force, and a Declaration of War. To me, the first allows the Commander-in-Chief to negotiate knowing there is backing from the Congress. A Declaration of War tell the Commander-in-Chief that military force MUST be used, reducing the CIC’s ability to negotiate. Your statement regarding undeclared war’s is a bit misleading. We call them war, and they look and feel like war, and have congressional approval.

    While I’m very disappointed that Romney is the establishments choice, I’d personally take Santorum before Paul. He’s made too many statements that gives me impression that he’d be very weak in the Government’s primary rule of national security. It’s not what others of said of him, it’s what he has said.

    • DaveH

      Military action, or any other such name, is just a euphemism for War. And the Constitution clearly defines the procedures for declaration of War. If the excuse for War is not clear cut, then likely the required number of Congressional votes could not be acquired. As it should be.
      There is rarely a good reason for rushing into a War, which would commonly be the case if only one man (the President) is allowed to unilaterally take our soldiers into combat.
      Ron Paul is the only candidate who would stop Unconstitutional usurpation of the War Powers.

    • Joe H.

      D. Fayette,
      Where was the congressional approval for Libya or Africa??????? Congress was IGNORED!!!

  • Patrick Henry

    I believe your article is quite exagerated? Any one of the Republican candidates will be much better than Obama. They will move this country in the opposite direction, and if we vote out more Liberals in Congress and replace them with Conservatives, we can save this country from Socialism. Just who do you want for President?

    • Willy

      Ron Paul

    • NC

      Patrick are you talking about the kind of “socialism” that produced the phrase “The stock market loves the Democrats’? Ever heard that? Could it be the fact that he market has produced 40% more during Democrat administrations that Republican in the last 80 years?? Could it be wide gap in the job creation figures of the two parties? Clinton 22 million jobs alone!
      Three time the market has LOST points during an administration and each time it has been a Republican! Hoover, Nixon and bush II>
      You need to stick with slogan, sound bites and bumper stickers because the Republican facts and figures are rotten!

      • cawmun cents

        Its very hard to hear your muffled cries,considering where your head is.If you ever manage to pull it from the posteriors of the globalists,perhaps the light of knowledge will fill the empty gaps where the male bovine fecal matter was inside your cranium,but dont hold your breath worlder.
        Hired guns are only effective when they are quick on the draw and can shoot straight,neither of which pertain to you.
        So go back to whatever progressive think tank spawned you,and learn the revisionist style of debate to a scholarly degree,before coming back to run with the big dogs.Ohterwise please stay on the porch.
        -CC.

        • NC

          Cawmun were you addressing me in you post?

          • NC

            Cawman you made reference to the “progressive think tank” that spawned me! Let me reference you to your Conservative fountain of knowlege ,the Heritage Foundation. Where in 2001, Willliam Beach, the head number cruncher for the brains of conservative think(?) tank made this brilliant deduction:” The final results show that the Bush plan would significantly increase economic growth and family income while substantiality REDUCING federal debt.
            William Beach: The economic impact of President Bush’s tax relief Plan.

            They got the Bush plan they so greatly championed and the rest is history that the Republican Party would love to forget!

            Think I’ll stay with my think tank! NC

          • JeffH

            DUH!

          • Tom W.

            “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
            Martin Luther King Jr., Strength to Love, 1963

          • Joe H.

            NC,
            Well, let’s see. the kind of prog socialism that wants to recall a Governor after he
            1) Balances the budget of Wisconsin
            2) Creates 16330 jobs
            3) cuts unemployment to 1% LESS than the national rate
            4) does ALL of this without firing or laying off ONE government employee
            the man has done EVERYTHING he was elected to do, yet now they want to recall him!! These progs are out of their mind! YES NC, THAT kind of socialism!!!

  • Alex Frazier

    To add to this article, let me say that of all the candidates, Ron Paul is actually the person they want, even if they don’t realize it.

    Milton Freidman is considered by many to be an economic genius. People want a Reaganesque president. Freidman was Reagan’s economic advisor. Freidman was an Austrian economist. Ron Paul is a student of Austrian economics. Ron Paul would be a Reaganesque president with the same mind towards reducing government.

    The GOP wants jobs created. Mitt Romney knows how to open a business. But that’s not the same as creating the national environment for the entrepreneurs to do so. Presidents don’t open businesses. They create the economic atmosphere for others to do so. Ron Paul knows economics, and he knows what it’s going to take to get things working. Santorum thinks that cutting corporate taxes on manufacturing will do the trick. But it takes more than that. It takes appropriate cuts on both sides. We need more money in the hands of the businesses to expand and grow, creating employment, but that only covers the supply aspect. There needs to be a demand for the products created. That means we need more money in the hands of the consumers. Ron Paul wants to cut the IRS and eliminate income tax, as well as corporate tax, the death tax, and capital gains tax. Ron Paul also wants to lift many of the protectionist regulations that are stifling our trade and productivity.

    A large number of the evangelicals are looking for a good Christian conservative. Huntsman, who is now out, and Romney, are both Mormons. If Gingrich is a Christian, he’s not a very good one with his history of adultery. And Santorum, although genuine, is Catholic, and doesn’t hold the exact same values as many mainstream Christians. Ron Paul is a declared born again Christian. He’s pro-life. He’s exactly what they claim they want. He’s a mainstream evangelical Christian, openly professed, with a history of Christian conservative values at home and abroad.

    People say they want conservative. Ron Paul is the only candidate running that has followed the Constitution for the past thirty years. His unwillingness to compromise on that has earned him the nickname “Dr. NO.” He is the ONLY conservative running in this race. They others are all making excuses for the things they’ve done that are NOT conservative. Ron Paul is the only one who doesn’t have to apologize for betraying the American people.

    The MSM is constantly talking about the Tea Party. This one is a Tea Party favorite, or that one is trying to get the Tea Party voters. Ron Paul and his message of conservative, small government, reduced spending, etc., was the impetus for the formation of the Tea Party in the first place. It was Ron Paul supporters that started it. So if the GOP wants someone the Tea Party can get behind, no one but Ron Paul makes sense. He’s the reason they formed, and his message hasn’t changed one bit.

    On top of all that (and there are other issues still that go above and beyond), it is worth considering that most of the other candidates are now parroting Ron Paul’s campaign platform. There is talk about auditing the FED from some of them. There is talk about reigning in spending, which is derived from the Tea Party movement, which was derived from Paul. I’ve heard a number of candidates make statements where I said to the TV, “… brought to you by Ron Paul.”

    In the end, it is a plain fact that Ron Paul is everything the GOP claims to be looking for in a candidate. As best as I can truly figure, the only reason to not like Paul is if you are a warmonger aching to go kill some muslims without provocation.

    • DaveH

      Alex,
      Milton Friedman was NOT an Austrian Economist:
      http://mises.org/daily/5390

      • Alex Frazier

        I stand corrected.

        I watched a five-hour video series by Friedman. His arguments are so similar to those of the Austrian school that I never knew the difference.

        Interesting to know that Friedman thought they didn’t print enough money in the 30s. I’d have to read up on why he thought so.

        Thanks for the correction Dave.

    • aubreyfarmer

      Only with careful macro economic planning could America have fallen so far so fast. The US was the world leader in aerospace, technology, transportation, finance, education, oil exploration etc. etc. ” 33). “Your people are so paranoid, it is obvious we can no
      longer permit you to exist. We cannot allow you to spread your
      filthy, immoral, Christian beliefs to the rest of the world.
      Naturally, you oppose World Government, unless it is under your
      FascistChristian control. Who are you to proclaim that your
      ChristianAmerican way is the best? It is obvious you have never
      been exposed to the communist system. When nationalism is
      finally smashed in America. I will personally be there to
      firebomb your church, burn your Bibles, confiscate your firearms
      and take your children away. We will send them to Eastern Bloc
      schools and reeducate them to become the future leaders of a
      OneWorld Government, and to run our Socialist Republic of
      America. We are taking over the world and there is nothing you
      can do to stop us.” (Letter from a Spokane, Washington Jew to
      Christian Pastor Sheldon Emry).

      • Joe H.

        Careful there, aubry, your antisemitism is showing just a little!!! first you make a statement that just as much as says your wife isn’t as good as you, and now this. do you have real short hair???

    • David

      Thank you, Alex! With your permission, of course, I owuld like to repreint your post. I have invested many hours in discussion with others trying to enumerate Dr. Paul’s message succinctly. You have done a magnificent job of that very thing! RON PAUL -2012~ I cannot afford another 4 years of OBAMA!

      • Alex Frazier

        David, do take note of Dave’s correction. Friedman was apparently not an Austrian economist, though he certainly did not promote the Keynesian model. His Chicago school of economics, however, is incredibly similar to the Austrian school, so much so that the article Dave linked to was written due to the confusion between the two schools caused by their close similarities. So the principle I gave still carries the same weight, though the statement was not entirely accurate. If you are going to reprint my post elsewhere, please make the appropriate modification.

  • http://deleted Claire

    We have lost our freedom of choice. Yes, Romney is being shoved down out throats, and I am at a loss as to how to stop the insanity. It seems the powers that be are going to have their way regardless. I haven’t and I won’t give up, I will keep plugging away to preserve my freedom to say what I want, do what I want, and make my own choices. So sorry, this is off the subject and it may seem unimportant but it is a prime example of government taking over: My town government is wanting to divide the city into quadrants-they will pick and choose the garbage hauler for each quadrant. I want to KEEP my garbage hauler, Allied Waste is the best in town as far as I am concerned. So now I may not have a “choice.” The other haulers leave a mess on the sidewalk and they don’t care. Looks like I will have to attend city hall meetings again. I am fed up with government taking over and telling me what I have to do. The government is seeping into every aspect of my life and I resent it. I am pissed.

    • Pepper

      Claire, Keep plugging away and incite the local natives to go to the meetings! We have to be involved at the local, county and state levels also to keep the wolves at bay. I personally know that “ONE” person can make difference, but it helps when you don’t have to go alone!

    • Mark Are

      I’m 57 and I can think back on what choices we had taken away. We had no choice but to go to school when I was young. We had no choice of certain classes we had to take that have proven useless as I grew older. We had no choice about buying car insurance or not after a certain date. We have no choice about flouride being put in our drinking water. We have no choice about…well, I’m not going to give myself carpal tunnel syndrome. You get the drift. We are about as free as a parrot in a cage that is taught how to say “I’m free!”.

  • Paul W. Brock

    Are we to assume that conservatives like me who support Romney should not have a voice? Who are the “elites” that support Romney. Where are these “mystery” supporters who want him. He has endorsements from political leaders but so do some of the other candidates. Romney will be a conservative. I don’t care if the mantra is “flipflopping”. I like Ron Paul’s ideas, but all polls point to a victory for Obama if he gets the nomination. Romney will get government spending under control and he will follow the “rule of law” and not govern using CZARS and unconstitutional rules. Look for the Democrats to go after his religion using “evangelical” surrogates to dis credit him.

    • DaveH

      Paul,
      If you think Romney is a Conservative, you have not done your homework. Romney is an Establishment Republican, far away from being a Conservative. He’s much closer to being a Progressive.
      Ron Paul cares for the people, and for the rule of law (the Constitution in particular, the main law of our land). Romney just cares for the Big Government Gang that he aspires to lead. Anybody who thinks that Romney will reverse Big Government Growth is very misled.

    • Mark Are

      WHAT? Are you serious? How about Goldman Sachs to start with. There are lists of his big corporate supporters available.

  • James Maxwell

    Bob as much as its pains me I have to agree with you. In the last
    election the demos put up a Big Red Flag and the Republican party
    failed to see it. When they immidately challenged John McCains
    qualification to be presiden upon his citizenship requirement they
    failed to recognize the end run. As a result out nation is in
    turmoil and there is no cohesive candidates running on the Republican
    side of the ticket. The GOP with it “Old School Professional
    Politicans” are refusign to admit or search out new blood. Until
    they learn that the youth of our nation is our strength we will be
    on the backside of the power curve. The TEA party woke up the nation
    and united many voters from all walke of life and the last election
    proved that quite clearly. To save our nation we must remain true
    to the patform and not the political correct popular people. We have
    let special interst take precidence over the core values that attracted voters to our part in the first place.

  • dan

    If we don’t convince Republicans to vote for the Constitution….
    then all is lost.MSM’s candidate is Obama…need one say more?

  • http://elliesmiles@hotmail.com Country First

    Most people are so innoculated by the MSM propaganda, they can no longer recognize the truth. For those of us who were blinded and woke up need to encourage others to do the same and we can only hope they listen objectively. Thanks Bob for another fine article and providing the truth to your readers. Ron Paul is the only candidate for 2012 or it’s curtains for all of us.

    • DaveH

      I think this one book will lift the Propaganda Blinders for many (hopefully most) people:
      http://www.amazon.com/Real-Lincoln-Abraham-Agenda-Unnecessary/dp/0761536418

      Once people realize just how much we’ve all been Propagandized, then they will be freed to do further investigation into the Lies that have been foisted upon us by Big Government. Fool us once, shame on them. Fool us twice, shame on us.

  • bill

    Yes,Bob Livingston has hit the nail on the head with this article.No comment
    necessary from me.

  • Nancy in Nebraska

    Good article! It reflects so much of what I’ve been saying for months. I’ve voted in every election for 38 years. I will vote for Paul in the primary but I don’t think it will help. If Romney gets the nomination, I will not be able to vote this year. I believe that he is NO different than Obama. I cannot in good conscience vote for the man. I will not cave into pressure from the powers that be. I will not be fooled into thinking that he is the lesser of two evils. They are all evil. I am tired of not having a say, a choice. I am tired of the elite trying to make us think that we have choice, that we are supporting democracy. I’m afraid that our government has become so corrupt that there is nothing we can do to pull it back from the brink. Our representatives no longer represent us. They are bought and sold by the lobbyists who line their pockets with millions of dollars. I will no longer participate in this evil!

    • Lynne

      Vote anyway if your state allows write-in votes. Write-in votes for Ron Paul count too, y’know!

    • DaveH

      Good for you, Nancy.

    • John

      The unfortunate truth is that by the time we the people are presented a candidate, he/she without exception is already bought and paid for by special interests. In the big picture, our vote is only a token to give the illusion that the people make the decisions. This time though, the media has charged ahead and shown the masters hands in this election and thus many people can clearly see that the candidate is already picked. And it is NOT what you or I or any other citizen wants, it is what corporate America and special interest wants, the rest is just a dog and pony show for the masses.

    • Mark Are

      MY VERY SENTIMENTS!

  • Helen2

    Excellent article Bob. The thing that concerns me the most about Romney is that he does not stand true to his religion. If a man goes against the very tenets of his faith, how am I to expect him to stand true to the constitution? I grew up in the southwest. I have known many Mormons in my lifetime. They are all against abortion. I nearly choked when I read that Romney is pro abortion. Personally, I have never known a Mormon to be for abortion. So if he goes against the fundamental belief of his church, what is there to make me believe he will govern with the constitution in mind? Besides that though, I plan on voting for Ron Paul!! I at least know where he stands on the constitution.

  • Robert Button

    I got an idea why don’t we start writing in Palin in the Primaries. Let’s put a real winner in the mix.

    • Robert Smith

      Isn’t she the one who QUIT? I don’t see that as “winning.”

      Rob

      • cawmun cents

        Tell the truth Ms./Mr.Smith.
        Mrs.Palin was subjected to various lawsuits(brought forth by the leftist ACLU lawyers,our favorite sleazebags)the kind of which tied her up going back and forth to court,keeping her from performing her duties as Governor of Alaska.
        Notice that after she left office those suits were dropped,a real testament to the hijacking of a persons life by the deviants of the left.Once they had subjected her to extortion,by promising to leave her family alone after she stepped down,the only actions takenn by the lamestreamers have been making personal jokes about her children.
        What scum those people are,just the kind you seem comfortable with.
        I hope your extended stay wherever you go is full of you shaking hands with old friends.
        But i actually pray that doesnt happen for you.
        -CC.

        • Robert Smith

          Don’t prey for me cc. I want NOTHING to do with you or your brutal god.

          Rob

          • NC

            Sorry Robert Smith but my post is intended for “cummun cents”!Keep up the good fight. Didn’t mean to jump into the middle of your discussion!

        • NC

          Are Ollie North, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity part of your “favorite sleazebags”? The ACLU has come to the aid of all three when their Constitutional rights were in jeopardy! Ask those three how good the ACLU is at protecting our civil rights. You are clueless about what the ACLU is all about! Be you a conservative, liberal, Libertarian, Christian, Muslim or what ever if you have rights protected by the US Constitution that are being threatened they will come to your aid and they don’t ask your party affiliation or religion!!

          Watch the kool aid!! It will make you embarrassigly ignorant in an instant!!.

        • Mark Are

          You must have left your cawman sense somewhere else if you believe that foolishness.

        • Joe H.

          CC,
          those charges were NOT dropped! She was found innocent of all charges except one minor misdemeanor!! I wonder how ADumber would come out if HIS life was under the type of scrutiny hers was??? They even had every Email she sent for over a year!! HER life was an open book, unlike Adumbers which nobody can even see to question!!

      • Don

        Robert, your a f#%*ing, idiot, being gov. of a State has nothing to do with running for prez, if you don’t know the story then keep your mouth shut as of why she quit !!!

    • DaveH

      You surely jest, Robert Button?
      Palin, the woman who stumped for John McCain, one of the most Liberal Big Government Republicans in the country?
      Thanks to Sarah, We Arizonans are stuck with that loser for 5 more years.

      • cawmun cents

        The things is DaveH.,was he there long before Sarah was part of the mix?If so then you have nobody to blame but your states politics.
        -CC.

  • Alarmed!

    Excellent points made in this article, Bob. I fear however, that Ron Paul simply doesn’t have a snowball’s chance to win the party election, and the reasons are numerous. To the GOP senior leadership, Paul simply is too risky. They’d rather have someone in their hip pocket who will tow the party line, is guaranteed to keep nominal tax rates for the rich down, etc. And assuming Paul could get the party nomination…I hate doubly to say this, but that guarantees the re-election of the current president, who in my mind is the most destructive force our republic has seen … ever!

    I’m almost positive I’m right about this, and it really hurts to say it…I like Ron Paul, I believe what he says is absolute truth, he would have us turn from our socialistic ways and promote true freedom, economic & social. But truly the facts are these: as a nation, we have become diseased and jaundiced. Easy living through-out the 80′s, 90′s and early 2000′s have made us weak, and unwilling to put it an honest days work. Our media has glamorized those who have cut corners to enrich themselves, and emboldened a whole generation that think they are entitled to all that those of us have worked hard all our lives for.

    I believe we are at a very seminal moment in our country. How we react to the challenges ahead will define us and our future, as a nation!

    • Deb Johnson

      Since I see no difference between Romney and Obama, I will take the chance. I firmly believe that Ron Paul can and will be elected. He came in 2nd in the NH Democratic Primary (as a write-in) as well as his strong 2nd in the Republican Primary. While you may be correct about our past decades of easy living, the Ron Paul supporters are ready and willing to keep working. After 2 states, you say we should throw in the towel. Chin up, chest out, and join the quest for liberty! If the 10% of the American people had been such pessimist, our great country would never have been born!

      • Pepper

        I agree, why change one cheap suit for another!

      • Blue Devil

        Deb — You stated that Ron Paul placed second in the NH Democratic primary. And as a write-in. Can you document that — I hadn’t heard it? If true, it means that Mr. Paul could be the most electable candidate on either side of the fence. WHOOPEE!!!!

    • DaveH

      I’m with the ladies on this one, Alarmed. We really have no choice but to vote for the Principled candidate — Ron Paul — because the rest are, well, Unprincipled.
      As far as Ron not being able to beat Obama, that is a pure myth. Ron offers Democrats almost everything that Principled Democrats want:
      Freedom to put the poisons of choice in their bodies.
      Freedom to have sex with whomever they want, for free, or for money.
      Freedom to throw their money away gambling with whomever they want.
      A Government that is just as liable for murder as are it’s citizens. That means Government people can’t just kill whomever they please simply by declaring it a War, or Military Action.
      The only Democrats who wouldn’t be attracted to Paul would be those who want to ride on the backs of unwilling carriers.

      • Alarmed!

        Oh, make no mistake…when the primary comes to MY state, I fully intend to vote for Ron Paul. He’s my man. I realize in re-reading my post I came across as overly negative. But, if and when Romney gets the nomination, I will throw my full weight behind Romney, not because I like him, not because he is conservative, no not any of those things. I will vote for him because he doesn’t embrace Marxism/Socialism as good medicine for all of us, even if it doesn’t go down easy!

        • http://teamlaw.org Jazzabelle

          Alarmed! wrote:
          “I will vote for [Romney] because he doesn’t embrace Marxism/Socialism as good medicine for all of us, even if it doesn’t go down easy!”

          That is a VERY ironic statement, considering that Romneycare is both “socialism” and (purportedly) “medicine.”

        • DaveH

          Then, Alarmed, we will continue on the path of Big Government destruction. I don’t have to put up with it that many more years, but I feel sorry for the young people.

  • Deb Johnson

    Lots of good points in this article. However, we Geezers for Ron Paul would like some recognition :) At 57 years old and having worked with many, many other gray-hairs during the NH campaign, I see a wide range of supporters both in age and social status. It is true that many older people still get their news from the status-quo-run mainstream media. It is up to all supporters to do as Tom Woods suggests and get our laptops over to their houses and show them the truth.

    • Blue Devil

      Deb — At only 57, you are hardly a geezer. I have kids that are older than that and grandkids that are veterans of the current mid-east wars. All of us are pulling for Ron Paul!!!

      Deb — At only 57, you are hardly a geezer, but you’ve got your head on straight. I have kids that are older than you, and grandkids that are veterans of the current mid-east wars. All of us (three generations) are pulling for Ron Paul!!!

      • Angel Wannabe

        God Bless You and Your Military Family Blue Devil, Thank You for your & Your Families sevice to our Country! :)

        My Dad and his Three Brothers all WWII vets!

        • Blue Devil

          Angel — We go back at least 5 successive generations. My natural father was a WWI veteran and my maternal grandfather rode with T. Roosevelt at San Juan Hill (So I’ve been told). None of us were career, but that may change —— one of my grandsons has just re-upped.

        • Blue Devil

          Angel — It’s me again. If I’m not getting too personal, what outfits were menfolk in? I was 88th Division!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Blue Devil, My Dad_ Army, Infantry, Okinawa,_ Older brother, Battle of the Bulge, Army, Purple Heart,_ Two younger Brothers, One Coast Guard, other Army also!__My Dad was one of 7 kids, and had 8 step brothers and sisters, which three Brothers-in-law also served in Air Force, Navy & I think the Army as well.__Miraculously All came home.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Blue Devil, Sorry I don’t know the divisions, each spoke very little about the war, and when they did, it was mostly to recall something funny that happened.

  • Donald

    Republicans who believe Ron Paul is the answer need to get to the caucuses in droves to get him chosen in as many states as possible so that he goes to the convention with enough votes to block Romney. If your not willing to do that in your state,then all the talk here about nominating Ron Paul doesn’t mean a thing. Remember that Clinton didn’t bother with caucus states the last time around and guess who won.

  • Sirian

    I know I’m gonna ruffle some feathers – not intended – but I heard Rush L. say the exact same thing that Bob has said, “Once again, the party elites have pre-determined the nominee. It’s Mitt Romney.” three weeks ago. Coincidence or simply a better understanding of what all of us are up against? As long as we allow the “established party” to maintain control inevitably we will see no end to this on running fiasco of “I know what’s best for you”.

  • Rick

    Well Bob….as per usual, there’s always two sides to every story, and taking ‘STRONG’ positions without all the facts generally earns one the deserving title of being a Horses Rear end.

    Frankly the Far right….can be as Bad as the Far left. We don’t need another dictator in chief. We already have that. I’d much rather have someone who governs according to the will of the people, than have an Evangelical in Chief (aka Perry, Gingrich, Santorum) that professes one thing and does something else.

    Romney has consistently provided governance based upon the desires of his constiuency….NOT like the idealogue we have in the Oval Office that chooses to ignore the will of the people and plunge headlong into what HE believes is the right direction for the country.

    Gingrich, Santorum, Perry, Paul…..all have a distorted or skewed view of America. Whether I personally am a conservative….OR as I’ve heard from your side continuously from this website…’CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH’ is no better a position than the FAR Left. Remember the motto….”United we stand, Divided we fall”? Romney doesn’t go around prosthelitizing….he simply lives his life. LOOK AT THE MAN and make an ‘honest’ appraisal. We already have enough disdain and even HATE for Obama, Pelosi, Reed, etc. Don’t turn it on our own. Republicans, Conservatives and Moderates need to unite to defeat the Socialist Agenda and not be so short sighted regarding our own personal beliefs, preferences, candidate or agenda’s.

    Instead of ABR (anybody but Romney) we should be focusing on ABO (Anybody but Obama) and stop all of this ragging of our Republican Opponents.

    I’ve subscribed for quite a while now, and I thought your views and those of this publication were similar to my own,…..but If these attacks on (not conservative enough, not religous enough) Republican candidates continues then I’ll simply unsubscribe and start labeling your publication as too ‘EXTREME’to be relevant.

    • s c

      R, if you’re in a nose-held-high mood, be sure you take some of this websites’s hypocritical, useless, back-stabbing and unAmerican utopians with you. Scram.

    • Robert Smith

      From Rick: “Romney has consistently provided governance based upon the desires of his constiuency….NOT like the idealogue we have in the Oval Office that chooses to ignore the will of the people and plunge headlong into what HE believes is the right direction for the country. ”

      In MA the constituency wanted health care. In America there is lots of support for universal health care. We NEED it so our manufacturers can compete on the world stage without burdening them with rising health care costs.

      Rob

    • DaveH

      I guess then, Rick, by your own definition — You are a “Horses Rear end”, because I saw little in the way of fact in your comment.
      The closest you came was stating that “Romney has consistently provided governance based upon the desires of his constiuency”.
      Perhaps true, Rick, but we are a Nation of Laws, not men. Our wise Founders did everything they could to insure that the Majority would not run over the rights of the Minority. That’s why they set our Country up to be a Republic rather than a Democracy. It doesn’t matter whether Romney represents his constituency or not, he is STILL bound by the Law. And the Constitution says that Federal Government has only certain limited powers, regardless of what their Constituents want. I don’t see Romney as being one who would obey that main law of the land.

  • Jimmy

    Its been about 67 years since the end of WWII. Since then we have had Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and now we have Livingston trying to kill the Republican Party. Sorry Mr. Livingston but the Republican Party is alive and well. You need to concentrate on the positive and good one sees and stop the negative comments. You are just another journalist who can’t find in himself to find anything good to say. I hope all of the candidates do well and they can all stop their negative adds also. PAC money can be used for good or evil and should be used for good. So Mr. Livingston there is my two cents worth so say something good and postitive or shut up.

    • Pepper

      Yes Jimmy, we should all bury our heads. Tyranny is good, war is peace, hate is love and left is right………could you help me decorate my fema camp room?

    • NC

      Jimmy, the theme of Mr. Livingston’s article is that his “people” have been duped by the Republican Party they chose to associate with to advance their beliefs.
      There is a group that has NEVER been duped by the Republican Party!
      WE ARE THE DEMOCRAT PARTY!!
      We have read their platform over the years and know that it is top heavy in support of the 1% as opposed to the 99% who go to work everyday ( if “trickle down” failure has taken away their job) and have only their combined power to protect them in the work place! Not the influence of big bucks with an administration, if elected, already committed in writing to support the one percent.

      Ask any republican candidate where he stands on capital gains taxes?

      There is a place for your people Mr.Livingston in the Democrat Party! We have never let the common folks down yet! WE WILL NOT BE DUPED BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OR THE PAID FOR SLANT OF FAUX NEWS!

    • DaveH

      You shut up, Jimmy. You are a guest on this board and you are being rude to Bob Livingston.
      The Republican Party is not what they say they are. They aren’t the Party of Small Government, they just say they are. They aren’t the Party of Free Markets, they just say they are. They aren’t the Party of Sound Money, they just say they are.
      For those who would like a better understanding of who Republicans really are, read this:
      http://mises.org/books/originsoffed_rothbard.pdf

    • Joe H.

      Jimmy,
      Are you related to karolyn??? you both have the same tint of glasses, ROSE!!!

  • Daylo

    Personally, anyone who endorses Mitt Romney, i.e. McCain, Bob Dole and now Huntsman…these would be the kiss of death for me. These are RINO’s endorsing the last RINO standing.

    This is not over. We must choose he person we know can beat Obama. It is not Mitt Romney. It has boiled down to two candidates: Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum. I think we should decide on one of these two candidates and put everything we have in their corner. I will never believe that Mitt Romney can beat Obama. He is a terrible debater and Obama will have him for lunch.

    • Pepper

      AGAIN?? Change one cheap suit for another?? “R” or “D” makes NO difference if they endorse the same policies. Do you want Tyranny 1 or tyranny 2? Do you want brown sugar on your cereal bowl of dog crap or would you prefer white sugar on your cereal bowl of dog crap?? It’s still going to taste like sugared dog crap! Then we can have the argument of whether a Lab or poodle crap tastes better.

      • Daylo

        Who do you want, Pepper? Let me guess…Ron Paul?

        • Joe H.

          Daylo,
          If he is smart, has investigated all of his choices, researched their platforms(not only listened to their words) and has made an intellegent choice, YES!!!

    • John

      Did it ever occur to you that the GOP is choosing Mitt not because he can win, but because he will lose against Obama? The RINOS in the GOP look at the mess this country is in, and at all the hart work it will take to make it right… and they do not want any part of it…. They know that in order to fix it they would have to alienate a large portion of their voters with unpopular actions. So they are choosing “again” to sit back for a few more years and let others try to do the work. I.m.h.o. this is one of the reasons they favored McCain and then hampered his election.McCain was strong enough to put up a realistic looking fight and also of a good enough character to be a graceful loser…exactly like Romney. They would never been able to convince Paul to play this game.

      • DaveH

        The thing is, John, that the Republican Establishment really just wants to keep their cushy Big Government jobs and their Power. And they will tell us whatever they think we will believe to achieve that goal.
        Of course it goes without saying that the same is true for the Democrat Leaders. They are both just factions of the Progressive Party, and they pretend to be for the people while in reality they are simply feathering their own nests.
        With the exception, of course, of Ron Paul and a handful of others who truly care about the people.

  • s c

    The very least Mutt can do is to change his name to McCain. I don’t see how it will make America any better by having two McHorse’s Asses instead of one.
    It seems safe to say that the retards who think of themselves as the heart of the ‘Republican’ Party should check in for their mental competency exams and try to prove to us that they’re close to being sane (if that’s possible).

  • Tom H.

    I do wholeheartedly agree with Ron Paul’s fiscal and domestic policies. I do not, however, agree with the foreign policy that Dr Paul espouses. I therefore emplore you, Mr Livingston: Would you please generate a dedicated article as to why you think Ron Paul’s foreign policy is truly in the interest of actually protecting this country from foreign enemies? Tell me where I (may)have been mislead, please

  • Paul W. Brock

    Obama a “debater” you’ve got to be kidding. He will not have his teleprompter, although he will once again have his “commentators” asking the question. Obama is as shallow as a creek and as stupid as a stump. We still don’t have his grades from the schools he attended, nor have I read in of his works in Law School Journals. He is a “cliche” driven political hack with Marxist view of the world. Romney would “eat his lunch”. I don’t know how Daylo can say Romney would be no match for Obama. All the Republican candidates would beat him.
    Look for the commentators to cover Obama’s rear.

    • NC

      Paul, In late October 2008 a Republican politician friend of mine told me that a black man with a name like Obama would never carry this state or be President. May I introduce you to the President of the United States BARACK H. OBAMA! The Republicans will have to deliberately wreck the economy and not get caught doing it to win with Romney!

    • Ted Crawford

      To underestimate one’s enemy is to lose Paul! I do believe that Obama , like nearly all far left zealots, is fairly is pretty shallow, but he is not stupid!

      • DaveH

        Every great empire has fallen because its Leaders conquered too many foreign countries, and in the process impoverished their own country at the same time as they created an overwhelming number of foreign enemies.
        Those you think have the solution, Ted, are just repeating history.

    • Mark in LA

      This nonsense gets tossed around repeatedly – Obama is stupid. Obama is no genius. However to graduate from harvard Law School even as an affirmative action admit he probably has an IQ around 130. That would put him in probably the top 10% of the populace and well above Ronald Reagan.

      If you want to make sense attack him on his policies but calling him stupid just makes you look stupid. Just because he isn’t a polished speech giver doesn’t mean he is dumb, any more than the fact that Reagan was a polished pitch giver for GE and then the elites of the Republican Party proved he was smart.

      • Robert Smith

        Mark states: “However to graduate from harvard Law School even as an affirmative action admit he probably has an IQ around 130.”

        On which test?

        The number tossed around for Mensa (requiring that one be in the top 2%) is generally 130. However, that 130 is almost always followed by an immediate discussion of how many tests there ar. 130 is simply a number pulled out of the air to give folks something to relate to. It is admitted to be a fictional number.

        To see what the top 2% is on an assortment of tests go to: http://www.mensafoundation.org/Content/AML/NavigationMenu/Join/SubmitTestScores/QualifyingTestScores/QualifyingScores.htm

        Who knows… Maybe someone around here may want to join. Check it out. From that site: “American Mensa accepts scores from approximately 200 different standardized intelligence tests*. Often potential members have taken acceptable tests at other times in their lives and don’t realize they may already qualify for membership.”

        Rob

        • Mark in LA

          Robert the average IQ for whites is around 100 and the standard deviation is 15. Two standard deviations is the top 5%. Given that whites make up the majority and the average IQ is lower for blacks and Hispanics but higher for Asians and Askanazi Jews, 5% is probably a better number. I doubt he is in the top 2% (regardless of what Mensa says)but 5% is probably like it. I was just trying to be more lenient to make it obvious he wasn’t dumb but didn’t want to go into the statistics.

  • John

    Is all of this a wasted effort? Bama can simply declare war against Iran without congressional approval . . conveniently before election.

    • Ted Crawford

      I don’t know if he will “declare war” but he will surly do something in late August or early October!

  • Cristi Loken

    I for one have not fallen for the republican establishments crap. We have not had a true concervative in years. I’m so tired of all the spin and Fox News is helping, It is obvious they are leaning towards Mitt, all I here is them blasting the other candidates and I rarely here any negatives on Mitt. Let me tell you after this election if Mitt Romney is the nominee I will not vote for him and I am changing my pary to Independent the republicans are shooting themselves in the foot because they no longer represent me and alot of other people.

    • DaveH

      Try the Fox Business Network, Cristi, especially Judge Napolitano’s Freedom Watch.

  • Carlo

    Why is it so hard for people to understand that if it is not in the Constitution then it is not right for America?! I mean, people are calling Ron Paul crazy… and the irony is that his guiding principles are from the Constitution! Are you people saying that OUR FOUNDING FATHERS are CRAZY???

    We’ve strayed away from the Constitution, which give us our liberties. We’ve elected people into office who voted for things like the Patriot Act and the NDAA, which strip our liberties away from us.

    People have been dumbed down and conned into trading their liberties for security by the use of scare campaigns.

    To quote one of our FOUNDING FATHERS:

    Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
    - Benjamin Franklin

    People need to wake up and see through all the rhetoric these candidates are spewing out… just sayin…

    • Sirian

      I agree Carlo, people simply can’t see that both sides are working against the middle and WE’RE the middle. The trust level for either party has fallen off to almost nil. Will they wake up? It appears that slowly but surely they are but will it be quick enough to avoid another round of Obummer? That we will have to wait and see.

      • Carlo

        If you look closely, both parties are becoming one! Look at all the policies that are being implemented. The NWO is slowly revealing itself. This gradual process of chipping away of our liberties by passing bills like the Patriot Act and the NDAA… the agenda of the NWO is slowly showing itself into acceptance.

    • DaveH

      I don’t know why Ben chose to use the word “deserve” when in fact the reality is that they will GET neither Liberty nor Safety.

  • Leroy P

    I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR A REPUBLICAN THIS TIME AROUND IF ALL WE WILL HAVE IS MITT ROMNEY!
    NOT WHEN WE HAVE TWO STRONG RUNNERS “NEWT. AND RICK”
    ROMNEY IS NOT THE RIGHT CHOICE, UNLESS ALL YOU WANT IS A MORMON FOR PRESIDENT!!!

    • Rick

      Well there ya go Leroy….Labeling and casting desparaging comments on a candidate because of his relious affilliation.

      Your Bigoted comments are indicative of exactly what’s WRONG with the far right. I’m a Christian, but I’m also an American….in that order. I also understand that many so called religous leaders in Christ’s time were called VIPER’s and theives because of their pious beliefs that THEY were the only TRUE leaders of the church.

      Brother….take a good hard look at your statement and see if there’s anything Christlike in your comment!!! Then tell me that you’re MORE christian than Romney!!

    • Robert Smith

      Richard Nixon was a Quaker AND a crook but I’m sure the two aren’t related.

      Rob

  • http://delilah Pamela

    The powers that be want us to think that we have a choice. Well, we don’t and haven’t since the 1950s. The NWO or the Bilderberg Group have controlled our decisions. They have done this little by little and we took no notice until Obama came along and smacked us in the face with Marxism. A lot of us woke up but sadly not enough. If Romney or Perry wins we will only see more of Obama’s policies followed through. Paul cannot win. He’s a wacko. There are two choices left, not perfect, but they should be given a chance. Newt Gingrich is the only one who can out debate Obama. And, lets face it, he did do good for America in the past. Give him a chance.

    • Pepper

      Why do people just call names instead of saying “WHY” they don’t like a candidate?? I would have more respect for your comment if you had said, “I disagree/agree with..his views on…. the constitution, I think we should drop bombs all over the world, I like my children to be grouped, it makes me feel safe….Please tell us “why” you think R Paul is a “Whacko” or why we should vote for someone else.

    • Ted Crawford

      Pamela
      I understand what you are saying and agree with you, for the most part. There is another choice, while I don’t believe that he will get any traction, I’m left to wonder why!
      Jon Huntsman, I believe, at least deserves a second, longer look! His term as Governor gives him administrative experience and his time as Ambassador, especially Ambassador of China our main concern, clearly gives him specific foreign affairs knowledge!

    • Mark in LA

      This same mantra keeps being repeated by you people as though it means something – “Newt will out debate Obama”. It make me think you are part of the shills the RNC hires. Lets realize there are two outcomes the Republican Establishment wants. First they want Romney and second they want Paul marginalized. The parade of clowns (Perry, Cain, and Gingrich) is part of the second outcome.

      Debates will mean absolutely nothing to Democrats who might vote for Paul because they are sick of Obama. However, they will never vote for Gingrich as he represents everything they don’t want – more wars, more bailouts for banks, more illegal immigration, and more free trade. Obama will trounce everybody but Paul provided Republicans “hold their nose and vote for Paul”.

    • DaveH

      Pamela,
      the Progressives have been controlling this country since the late Nineteenth century. And their primary tool for accomplishing that has been the use of misleading Propaganda. You are obviously one of their victims.
      I prescribe this free online book to start you on the cure:
      http://mises.org/books/originsoffed_rothbard.pdf

  • Santiago

    third parties welcome !!!. both traditional parties and leader members fundamentally perverted.

  • skyraider 6

    First of all we need the media to stop bull crapping the people.

  • Ted Crawford

    One of Americas biggest problems is that we have been made to believe, by the politicians themselves and most pundits that we are incapable of understanding International Politics. They claim it is above our tiny, little heads, HOGWASH!
    The primary differences between International Politics and schoolyard politics are largely in scope and nuance. Believe me I do understand that the nuances are vitally important! That being said the basic, underlying psycology is the same. The psycology of war is also the same!
    The proper operating procedure for a static defensive position is to establish a strong outer perimeter, reinforced by mobile patrols, long, intermediate, and short range. Incorporated into this are ambush patrols and listening post, mostly after dark! It works well when properly administered! It keeps the enemy from amassing sufficient forces, at close enough range, to give them confidence they can overtake the position.
    The problems arise from the fact that the casuality rate of these patrols, when engaged, is often high, 30% was not uncommon, sometimes 50%, and occasionaly even as high as 100%. Commanders of smaller units, sometimes failed to follow the SOP, believing they were protecting their men! The results were devastating! The enemy amassed forces lerge enough and assulted the position, garnering a much higher casulaty rate than the agrate of all the patrols combined!
    Dr. Paul advocates just such an irresponsible philosophy. By his stated philosophy we can’t maintain a military presence on foreign soil… (no patrols).We are forbidden to interfere in any foreign dispute… (no ambush patrols). In his own words, we can’t disrupt any actions that increase their military machine, ” It’s none of our business”.
    With the radicals taking power in the Middle East and Northern and Central Africa, and given their stated purpose to either convert or kill all “Infidels”, and with America handcuffed by Dr. Pauls philosophy, it won’t be long untill they overtake Central America, who’s to stop them?
    When they get to Mexico they will surly incorporate the Cartels into their force, promising America to them it will be easy. They will probably try to take Canada through the political system.
    Even if we are successful at maintaining a strong, well equipted military, the battle will be on our soil, with our women and children at risk. The casualties will be in the tens of millions, the battle may start conventional but will surly end nuclear. Their lack of a long range delievery system won’t be a problem!

    • Carlo

      Hey Ted, just wondering.. how would you feel if foreign countries decided to establish their military bases on U.S. soil?

      • Ted Crawford

        Carlo, we currently have somewhere in excess of 150,000 foreign troops on our soil from various NATO countrys. It’s standard SOP!

        • John

          There is a small difference between being invited into this country for training and cooperation and forcing our bases onto other countries.

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear John,

            And why do you think they invite us there? Could it be the billions of dollars taken from our pockets that go to line the pockets of the elites there?

            Please wake up.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Robert Smith

            Bob posted: “Could it be the billions of dollars taken from our pockets that go to line the pockets of the elites there.”

            You mean our tax money is going to their 1% too?

            Shucks, whatever happened to “Buy American?”

            Rob

        • Carlo

          Ted,

          Would we allow, let’s say Germany, or Saudi Arabia, to build a base on US soil so they can conduct the same SOP as we do???

    • DaveH

      Are you really such a scaredy-cat, Ted, as to believe that any other country would dare to attack the United States?
      Your fears are misplaced. What you really need to fear is the impoverishment of our country at the hands of the Militarist State which at the same time is creating enemies around the world.

      • Ted Crawford

        I wonder if this delusional belief was also predominant in other Great Cultures, for example Macedonians, Persians, Greeks, Egyptians, Romans, ETC.? Where are they now? No nation is too great to fall, especially if they fail in their duedilligence!

        • Mark in LA

          Yes but most great nations have to rot from within first and that is what we are doing just like the USSR. We have an empire of vassal states that provide no tribute to us, they are just a drain on us.

        • DaveH

          So, Ted, you’d come over to my house, kill my dog, and then call me delusional for getting upset?
          You have put yourself squarely in the Aggressor Camp. Yet, you somehow think your kind are the heroes. Talk about delusional.

        • Jay

          Ted: Where are they now? No nation is too great to fall, especially if they fail in their duedilligence!

          Was it because of a lack of Due-diligence that brought past empires to naught?, or was it arrogant, and mindless-self-indulgence, and the pursuit of an destructive-interventionist, foreign-policy? The empires you mentioned, had numerous enemies, to be sure, but they were enemies of their own making, more precisely. Invading a peoples/nations, and imposing your laws on them, while pilfering their resources, will most certainly stimulate a reaction! Wouldn’t you agree, Mr Crawford?

    • Tom W.

      “Have we not come to such an impasse in the modern world that we must love our enemies – or else? The chain reaction of evil – hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars – must be broken, or else we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.”
      Martin Luther King, Jr.

      Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/martin_luther_king_jr_2.html#ixzz1je7I1lFE

  • Henry Ledbetter

    The nation of Israel could have been in the promised land in eleven days but had to wander in the wilderness for 40 years, because of unbelief. Only two men, over 20 years of age at the beginning, were allowed to go on. Joshua and Caleb lived to see the promised land because of their faith and Caleb at the age 85 declared that he wanted that mountain that God had promised them. Not only did he get his mountain but the land was at rest from war. Among the millions, only two over 20 years of age, believed God and were able to live in the promised land. Morally, our promised land is bankrupt but I suggest there is still hope if we would repent of the evil of our day. I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE AS CALEB DID IN JOSHUA Chapter 14 that with his God, nothing was impossible and I WANT MY MOUNTAIN.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Henry_ WONDERFUL! :)

  • Alex

    Which ever Reich Winger gets out of the GOP Kandidate Klown Kar to become the Official Teabagger Lamb to the Slaughter is of little matter, but it is quite fun to watch the Republican Party eating itself alive.

    • Ted Crawford

      Good luck with that Comrade!

    • DaveH

      Alex, the Liberal, outs himself. Who would believe that this insolent man cares about his fellow human beings?

  • David A. H

    I agree with you. Do what you know is right.

  • jopa

    Perhaps Willard Romney will have a “Brainwashing” moment like his Mexican born father did about the Vietnam war.When George proclaimed he was brainwashed into supporting the war his candidacy was done.

  • Stephen Dennis

    Mr. Livingston, I’m simply not certain where to begin. Normally, I agree with virtually all of your commentary. And, in this case, I agree with most of it. However, there are a couple of points that give me pause.

    First, you claim we have no evidence that Iran is trying to build or acquire a nuclear weapon. I have no difficulty imagining why we have no such evidence. Short of legitimate intelligence assets actually on the ground in Iran (which at best, would be very difficult, if not almost impossible), how could we have hard evidence? But you choose to site Leon Panetta–of all people–as PROOF of that fact? Leon Panetta? Really? I cannot imagine trusting anything out of the mouth of Panetta anymore than I would trust anything out of the mouth of Obama.

    And do YOU really believe that Iran is not either trying to manufacture a nuclear weapon, or trying to acquire one or more via other means? Honestly, Bob?

    Someone recently sent me a detailed compilation of Dr. Paul’s economic plans should he be elected President. I thoroughly liked and agreed with everything I read. It appeared to have been the result of an intelligent and thoughtful approach to exactly what this country needs to help right our economic ship. I agree with his position on the Federal Reserve. I thoroughly agree with his position on State’s rights (the 10th Amendment). In fact, I agree with about 60 to 65% of what Dr. Paul espouses.

    Where he completely loses me is foreign policy. I’m only human, Bob, so it’s possible I am completely wrong on this. God knows, I would love the idea that we might become a largely isolationist country who takes care of itself and lets the rest of the world sort out its own problems. Dr. Paul’s statement in one of the early debates that said, effectively, “So what if Iran gets a nuclear weapon?” scares the ever-living hell out of me. The argument that North Korea is also a crackpot nation who has nuclear weapons–and nothing has happened with them–so why would we thing Iran would be any different if they had nuclear weapons? Sorry, but that simply does not work for me. To the best of my knowledge, North Korea, as a part of its government’s reason for existing, has not pledged to wipe any of it’s neighbors off the face of the earth. Again, I could be wrong. Maybe they have and I just don’t know it. But I KNOW Iran has. And I know we cannot simply sit idly by and allow Iran to eradicate Israel.

    In my mind, an isolationist U.S. or not–in order for us to begin to be safe in today’s world we must at the very least be able to project that we are not only the most powerful military force on earth, but that we are more than willing to use that force to protect our country and our real allies. Please notice that I said our “real” allies, too. Those, I believe, are few and far between. The ones that pop immediately to mind are Israel, Great Britain, Taiwan, South Korea and Australia. There may be more. But those are the only ones I can think of immediately.

    If someone out there can demonstrate to me that Dr. Paul thinks this way also (because nothing I’ve seen or heard from him so far does), then because of his economic plans, I would be more than willing to give him my full support. At this point, I am definitely opposed to Romney, Gingrich and Santorum. That does not leave me too many choices. Oh, and it goes without saying that I’m opposed to Obama, as well, in case I haven’t made that clear enough.

    Can you, Bob, or someone else out there, help me with this?

    • DaveH

      Stephen,
      You are simply a victim of Propaganda. Read this book to shed some light on the extent to which Leaders will go to get their way:
      http://mises.org/books/pearl_harbor_greaves.pdf

      Couple that with some study on False Flag events, and your blinders will start to lift.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Stephen Dennis,

      You write: “First, you claim we have no evidence that Iran is trying to build or acquire a nuclear weapon. I have no difficulty imagining why we have no such evidence. Short of legitimate intelligence assets actually on the ground in Iran (which at best, would be very difficult, if not almost impossible), how could we have hard evidence? But you choose to site Leon Panetta–of all people–as PROOF of that fact? Leon Panetta? Really? I cannot imagine trusting anything out of the mouth of Panetta anymore than I would trust anything out of the mouth of Obama. And do YOU really believe that Iran is not either trying to manufacture a nuclear weapon, or trying to acquire one or more via other means? Honestly, Bob?” There is no evidence that Iran is building a nuclear weapon. The only evidence presented comes from the same discredited individuals who told you Iraq was building nuclear weapons. http://consortiumnews.com/2012/01/10/is-iran-nuke-fear-realistic/ http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/02/15/exclusive_new_national_intelligence_estimate_on_iran_complete http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQWSVZD89pM&feature=relmfu

      You write: “I would love the idea that we might become a largely isolationist country who takes care of itself and lets the rest of the world sort out its own problems.” Dr. Paul does not advocate an isolationist foreign policy.

      You write: “Dr. Paul’s statement in one of the early debates that said, effectively, “So what if Iran gets a nuclear weapon?” scares the ever-living hell out of me.” Your quote is inaccurate. Here is an accurate Ron Paul quote on Iran nuclear weapons: “I do not want Iran to get Nuclear weapons, I would like to see less Nuclear weapons in the world, I am for talking with countries and for trying to find common ground with countries so we can trade with countries and get along. The UN and the IAEA say Iran does not have nukes but even if they did during the cold war the soviets had over 30,000 nukes and we talked with them and we found common ground and we worked it out, we did not just start a war even when they had nukes.”

      You write: “To the best of my knowledge, North Korea, as a part of its government’s reason for existing, has not pledged to wipe any of it’s neighbors off the face of the earth.” North Korea has indeed threatened its neighbors. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-12-30/news/30571924_1_kim-jong-il-democratic-people-s-republic-puppet http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57330909/n-korea-threatens-south-with-sea-of-fire/

      You write: “In my mind, an isolationist U.S. or not–in order for us to begin to be safe in today’s world we must at the very least be able to project that we are not only the most powerful military force on earth, but that we are more than willing to use that force to protect our country and our real allies.” From Ron Paul’s campaign website: * Follow the Constitution by asking Congress to declare war before one is waged. * Only send our military into conflict with a clear mission and all the tools they need to complete the job – and then bring them home. http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/national-defense/

      Best wishes,
      Bob

    • Mark in LA

      Stephen try to think about what it really means to “stop Iran from getting a bomb”. The technology is 65 years old. Iran has uranium deposits. Nobody can stop them if they want to build a bomb. The only thing that can stop them is a massive invasion of US troops or a massive nuclear strike. They can build underground facilities that no bunker buster can touch. They can put their weapons development computers on a secure network inside their blast-proof bunkers and there is nothing we can do. All the tricks in the world, all the targeted assainations can only delay the inevitable should Iran choose to go nuclear.

      The idea that sactions or not buying their oil can stop them is nonsense. So they don’t have any US dollars or Euros. They have the raw materials and they have an educated workforce. All they need is the will and the desire to thumb their noses at the world like North Korea. Pakistan did just that in response to our sanctions when we found out they were building a bomb in response to India’s bomb. Iran is much wealthier and more educated than Pakistan.

      Do you want to vaporize 20 million Iranians on your irrational fear? Do you want a 500,000 man invasion force and probably 20,000 dead US soldiers and an endless insurgency over your irrational fear? There is really no other choice if you decide Iran is such a threat that it “must be stopped”.

    • Alex Frazier

      According to the Department of Defense in its latest statistics published January 13th, 2012, throughout the combined military actions of Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF), Operation New Dawn (OND), and Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF), which took place between March 19th, 2003 and present, there have been 6,350 United States soldiers killed and 47,430 wounded in action.

      Comparatively, there were 2,977 deaths related to the 9/11 attacks, excluding the terrorists. So using the attacks as an excuse to go into the middle east and chase down Osama Bin Laden, we then ignored the pursuit of Bin Laden and proceeded to take the opportunity to bring the American way of life to the Muslim nations at the cost of 53% higher casualties than the 9/11 attacks themselves.

      We went into Afganistan to capture Bib Laden and crush Al Qaeda. We succeeded in neither and decided to stay and establish a democratic government they didn’t ask for. Now we are fighting the Taliban, who were formerly our friends, and are fighting us for no other reason than the fact that we are a foreign invading force trying to overturn their government. We are fighting in Iraq. We went in under the false evidence of weapons of mass destruction and the fear of terrorists getting the bomb, but then stayed there for the better part of a decade rebuilding their cities when no such weapons were found. We overturned their government and removed Hussein, again bringing democracy to a country that didn’t really want it, while at the same time taking out of the way the one man who kept Iran at bay.

      Over the years we have interfered in Syria, who is now a threat allied with Iran, Egypt, who is now killing Christians, Pakistan, who is now friendly to Al Qaeda and actually has the bomb, plus a number of other places.

      It is a plain fact at this present moment that Iran does not have the bomb, and we have no intelligence to suggest they are even attempting to make one. They are developing nuclear power, which is a viable energy source. It happens to be the cleanest and most efficient energy source available compared to coal and similar fossil based energy electricity. There are a number of countries who use nuclear power, including Japan who once attacked us on our own soil.

      So don’t get caught up in the propaganda.

      It is also worth asking:

      • If terrorists attack us, will they attack us here, or in the middle east?

      • If they’re going to attack us here, are we safer with our soldiers at home or scattered abroad?

      • Are our own shores weaker or stronger with our troops all overseas?

      And then in terms of common sense logic, when was the last time you heard of muslim terrorist attacks in Mexico or South America? When was the last time you heard of muslim terrorist attacks on Switzerland? When was the last time you heard of a muslim terrorist attack on Greenland?

      The muslims attack us, Brittain, France, Israel, and Australia primarily. Why do you suppose that is? People want to write this stuff off as though muslim extremists just hate freedom and America. They never stop to think that the attacks are predominantly directed at the aggressive nations and their allies. We all expect them to behave with battered wife syndrome. We just beat on them and beat on them, and they should be appropriately humble and learn that it’s their own fault. Maybe then they would stop planning attacks on the US.

      But they aren’t doing that. Instead, they resent our presence. They resent our intervention. They resent the bombs we drop that kill their wives and children. They resent that we are overturning Sharia law and forcing democracy on them. And most of all, they resent that we make up bullsh1t excuses to invade their countries when both we and they know that the excuses are, in fact, bullsh1t.

      And so they fight back. So would I. So would you. And people who can’t see that are blind.

      But ignoring all of that, there is also the financial aspect of the wars. Wars cost a tremendous amount of money, and we don’t have any. My grocery and utility bills have doubled since 2001 due to the inflation caused by all this massive spending. If the pattern continues, which it will if we start yet another war that keeps us in the middle east for another decade, then we can all look forward to $7 boxes of cereal, $6 for a gallon of gas, $400 electric bills, etc. There’s no avoiding it when we’re running on 9.5% inflation.

      So think about that stuff and reconsider Paul’s foreign policy. He never said he wouldn’t go to war if the need arose. His policy is simply that we should try diplomacy first, and when diplomacy fails, we should properly declare the war in Congress, fight a clear fight with a clear objective, and then come home. The Constitution only actually allows for the raising and maintaining of an army for two years. That’s because the founders knew that a standing army 1) is incredibly expensive to maintain financially, and 2) is inevitably used by every government to oppress the people.

  • george

    Mr. Livingston, your comments concerning Governor Rick Perry are untrue, laced with despicable sarcasm, a LIE. Shame on you ! A Californian in early age, my wife and I have resided in Texas for the past 40 years. I began campaigning as a Pat Robertson Christian Republican in 1988 and am now a participating, contributing member of the Texas Republican Delegation.

    Once again, Mr. Livingston, your characterization of Governor Perry is inaccurate, deeply offfensive to me, and, yes, journalistic TRASH. This is Governor Perry’s 3rd term in office. He has never had a Conservative majority in either State legislative branches. The 2011 State legislature is the closest thing to it. The State House and Senate have either been left wing Democrat or left of center GW Bush check pants Republican during Perry’s tenure. In 2010, when the Democrats and 12 Rhino Republicans controlled the all important House of Representatives, Governor Perry took it upon himself to VETO 16 bills, every tax increase, every bill expanding government, every entitlement bill placed on his desk. That’s not all, to erase a 15 billion dollar deficit and replace it with a 6 billion Rainbow Fund (money held back for rainy days), Governor Perry earned the grievous disrespect of State Union employees by severely reducing their benefits. He is a pro-Life activist, a coyote assasin, a Born-Again Christian, a former Air Force Officer and raised by a share cropper family….a total contrast to Romney, GW Bush, and possibly you, Mr. Livingston.

    I’m sick of bias garbage journalism on the internet, TV, and the Media in general. Gov. Perry was thoroughly unprepared for the debates because he was EMPLOYED AT THE TIME, governing a state of over 26 million people. Romney had 6 years to prepare, Newt had 12 years to prepare, while Paul and Bachmann had an army of interns in DC doing research for them.

    No. Ron Paul is a 75 year old Libertarian gentleman whose programs would lead to social anarchy and crippling KNEE-JERK confusion in our government and our economy, not to mention the take over of Taiwan by Communist China, the take over of South and Central America by the International Communist apparatus. Let’s anticipate, under Mr. Paul’s watch, the annihilation of Israel and nuclear bomb blasts within our borders by the Satan worshiping, Satan possessed Islamic terriorist.

    You are a loser Mr. Paul. My vote and America’s support should go to Texas Governor, Rick Perry !!! I am a University of Southern California graduate but my hope for our country is Hookem’ Horns !

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear george,

      Please point out for me which of my comments about Rick Perry are: “untrue” “a lie” and “inaccurate.”

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • george

        Bob,

        Lie one: Gov Perry is a crony capitalist. Gov. Perry has forced his legislature to create Tort Reform, gentle regulatory retriction on in State business, and has spent the past 4 years visiting other states (working his butt off) to bring in new business to Texas. In the past 4 years, he has brought 40% of all American new jobs to his state. I am a geologist, a very successful petroleum geologst who has been blessed with carrier earnings approaching 3 million dollars, all revenue acquired in Texas, a state, THANKS TO GOV. PERRY, with no state income tax. Nice profit. Profit that enabled me to raise 7 children, while my beautiful wife of 40 years was able to stay at home until our youngest, our twin boys, turned 13.

        Lie two: His candidacy went nowhere in the first two primaries and he should no longer be running. Look Bob, be smart, consider that there is no fossil fuel production in either Iowa or NH. In fact, Iowan farmers are living off of the low BTU, environment poluting, Ethanol. My goodness, there is no fossil fuel producion in SC or Florida either.

        I am convinced that the ONE WAY this country can quickly pull out of the recession, is to LEASE, BABY LEASE, DRILL, BABY DRILL. Gov. Perry, if elected President, will take off the damnable Obama shackles on our Oil and Coal Industries and turn our Industry’s lose.

        Despicable sarcasm: “stepping on his own tongue”, professing anti-capitalism Marxism, humiliating him for having a big war chest. Pay attention, Bob, our out and out Communist President, Obama, HAS DECLARED WAR ON TEXAS, attempting to shut down our Oil and Gas Industry !!! WAR, Bob. He shut down offshore drilling which should have impeached and removed him from office and put him on trial for TREASON !!! Using a renagade EPA to shut down our refineries. Using the USA Fish and Wildlife Dept. to shut down drilling in West Texas to save lives of the desert sand dune lizard. The dsdl is not endangered !!! To make that suggestion should be a criminal offense.

        Damn right, Bob, the oil companies are going to keep Governor’s campaign treasure chest full, WILL THEIR OWN MONEY. Bob, maybe you enjoy the Trillions of Tax Payer dollars that are being used to reelect this corrupt President and his Senate and House accomplices?

        FACT: Governor Perry’s campaign, has been and is terribly hurt by his IDIOT ADVISORS. He should not have entered the debates until the first week November, when his Energy Policy, Economic Recovery Plans, etc. were formulated. Give Governor Perry the benefit of the doubt !!! He is the only Conservative left in the running, after the passing of Cain and Bachmann.

        Fight On !!! Hookem Horn !!!

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear george,

          You write: “Lie one: Gov Perry is a crony capitalist.” You then proceed to write an extensive missive that does not address crony capitalism. Here is proof of Perry’s crony capitalism. http://info.tpj.org/reports/pdf/Perry%20Patronage2010.pdf

          You write: “Lie two: His candidacy went nowhere in the first two primaries and he should no longer be running.” I did not write that he should not be running. Go back and read the paragraph again.

          You write: “Despicable sarcasm: “stepping on his own tongue”, professing anti-capitalism Marxism, humiliating him for having a big war chest.” I believe the phrase “stepping on his own tongue” best describes his inept debate performances and other misstatements. Calling Romney a “vulture capitalist” is not the language of a person who believes in free markets and capitalism, but it does sound like something that would come out of the mouth of a Marxist. How does pointing out that he has big war chest humiliate him?

          You write: “Bob, our out and out Communist President, Obama, HAS DECLARED WAR ON TEXAS…” And I have written about this. http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/government/gangster-government-puts-its-boot-on-texas-neck/ http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/government/texas-anti-groping-bill-back-before-legislature/ http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/civil-liberty/texas-legislature-blinks/ You will also note, if you are honest, that Gov. Perry did not do all he could have to battle the Federal government.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • george

            Bob, appreciate your reply ! Did any of my points resonate with you? Apparently not. I have read statements by reporters contributing to Newsmax, claiming that Governor Perry accomplishments were all the work of a Conservative Texas State legislature. A damn lie. Mr. Livingston, I attended the Texas State Republican Convention in 2010 for the first time at age 64. I have two degrees in Geology, one when USC was conservative, and a Masters of Science at the University of Wisconsin from 1969 to 1972, when the grad school was in the hands of SDS agents and the campus was full of anti-American, pagan, drug abuse fools, the same fools who are now running the Democrat Party.

            Bob, I feel that you have not given consideration to anything I posted with the exception of the war on Texas. What I can’t figure is what in your thought process brought forth your tabloid CRUCIFIXTION of Mr. Perry. Is Mr. Perry a Hitler or Stalin in your eyes? He must be, no doubt. Bob, you are trying to PISS DOWN MY NECK AND TELL ME IT’s RAINING. It ain’t working and I resent it. Your pathetic and uncalled for assasination of a PROVEN Patriotic Conservative American is inexcuseable and a big help the Communist Front establishment in our country. Your blurb did not include one achievement of Governor Perry. SPIN, SPIN, SPIN. So what if he forgot the Dept of Energy. You and millions of voters are using that to throw away ELEVEN years of emphatic Conservative, CAPITALISTIC, leadership on Rick Perry’s watch. This Tea Party advocate knows who needs to be supported and the reasons to support them.

            USC’s Head Coach John McKsy once said when asked to comment on Stanford University’s Head Coach Jack Christianson’s negative comment..”I never get in a pissing contest with a skunk. By his very nature, the skunk wins every time.” Neither one of us are skunks, so I do appreciate your message board very much !

            Bob, you go back and read carefully and honestly what I wrote. I made a wonderful PROFIT, PROFIT, PROFIT, in my State of Business because it is business friendly, capitalism friendly.

            Another thing, for you to give 15 paragraphs of accolades to Ron Paul without mentioning the 34 paragraphs of BS this man has said during his political carrier is unexceptible journalism.

            Fight On !!! Hookem’ Horns !!!

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear george,

            You write: “Did any of my points resonate with you?” No. I find it quite curious that in two responses you have not addressed the crony capitalist issue, but instead chose to devote your argument to non sequiturs. It makes me wonder if you know what crony capitalism is. Did you read the link I gave you before from Texans for Public Justice?

            You write: “I have read statements by reporters contributing to Newsmax, claiming that Governor Perry accomplishments were all the work of a Conservative Texas State legislature. A damn lie.” I have nothing to do with Newsmax and am certainly not responsible for what they write… and only on rare occasions do I ever read anything they publish.

            You write: “I made a wonderful PROFIT, PROFIT, PROFIT, in my State of Business because it is business friendly, capitalism friendly.” That is wonderful.

            You write: “Another thing, for you to give 15 paragraphs of accolades to Ron Paul without mentioning the 34 paragraphs of BS this man has said during his political carrier is unexceptible (sic) journalism.” You are certainly free to post here any relevant links or information you would like to point out the “34 paragraphs of BS” that you claim Ron Paul has said. But please note that links are preferred to long diatribes, and if you post multiple links, the comment will automatically go to moderation until they are checked.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • DaveH

            For such a highly degreed man, George, you sure do have a potty mouth.

    • John

      George,
      FACT: all candidates get the questions mailed to them at least 4-6 weeks ahead of the debate and they have the right to object to any of them.
      Fact: the questions and themes that are brought up in debates like this are prior agreed on by ALL candidates and NO questions will be asked they have not agreed on (have helped organize a few of those type of events in the pasts)
      Fact: Candidates all have the same amount of time to prepare, and if your candidate chose not to, he can’t blame nobody but himself.

      If Rick perry went to those debates unprepared then he either was to lazy to do his homework to questions he agreed on or he thought himself above the need to prepare.

  • Dr John Galt

    As it stands currently, it looks like we’re heading to another election which will leave us hoping for a change. It’s time the ‘voters’ took a hard look and recognized as fact that our government has become one “Of the people”, “For the largest campaign contributors”, and “By the establishment Republican/Democrat party”. Notice party as being singular. If “WE” the people put off taking control of our government this coming election, and most particuliarly meaning the Primaries, we may not have a chance to do so peacefully for many generations, if at all.

    • Rick

      Dr Gault (love the moniker)…..the problem here is that while it’s taken us over a half century to screw the Republic up, people want to undo all of the damage in 4 years. Simply can’t be done….we need baby steps, and someone willing to listen to the constiuency. As much as I’d like to see Washington closed down, the Presidency has little ability to do so. Everyone thinks that Ron Paul, can just close down the Federal Reserve and with a stroke of the pen he can cut $1T from the National Debt. Well guess what….he can’t do jack without the help of Congress!!! So while we need someone who is willing to challenge Congress to do what’s RIGHT, we can’t simply wreck the union and change EVERYTHING overnight.

      Some of these Candidates, frankly scare me…. with their naive comments (particularly Perry). Newt basically has a lot of ideas, but he seems to not have the temperment to deal with the opposition. We’d all like for him to ‘STICK’ it to Obama, but what happens when he starts ‘dictating’ they same way that Obama does??? We’re likely to have CHAOS in the streets!!! SLOW AND STEADY wins the race….4 years isn’t going to get it done, but a strong foundation is what we should be striving for!!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        If we as a nation are at the precipice and about to go over the cliff how will baby steps save us?

        • Dr John Galt

          What we should be looking to change is the ‘DIRECTION’ we are heading, regardless of the speed we are traveling. It took nearly 100 years to get to where we are, beginning most aggressively in 1913, with gradual changes taking place until 2009 when the Left felt they had become unstoppable.

      • Dr John Galt

        I don’t think Ron Paul has claimed that he could or would fix anything/everything hastily, but until you start things will only worsen. The budget could easily be reduced by $1 trillion or more. The National debt is something else, and until it is eliminated or reduced greatly, it would not benefit us to make the dollar strong.

      • Mark in LA

        There is that old Chinese proverb again about a trip of 1000 miles beginning with the first step. Nobody thinks Paul can wave a magic wand but his election will he a shot across the bow for the oligarghy that change could be on the horizon.

  • William DePass

    So your solution is to elect a senile 77 year old man who has no understanding of America’s place in the world? I think not. It may be your right to print stuff like this, but it is my right not to have to be exposed to it. If you don’t understand that the Republican Party will save the country if it is to be saved at all, then you are smoking a very high grade of opium. Please remove me from your list.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear William DePass,

      I understand that the truth is often difficult to face. You have been removed. This will allow you to more easily remain ignorant and in a false state of bliss.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • vincent

        Thanks to Bob Livingston, who DOES have the right and responsibility to call it like he sees it! The RNC has been out of touch and arrogant for too long. The Levinites, Dittoheads and Hannitites are flooding the forums to suppress Ron Paul, who is the ONLY candidate to energize independents and young voters!

  • Leviathon

    It doesn’t matter, Republican, Democrat, they all tell you what they want to hear and then stick up your backside. MONEY controls Washington and they don’t care. The American people will become PEASANTS and the only ones to be better off will be the ones with money. So if you don’t have money you don’t count!!!!!!!!

  • Scott in SC

    As Jerry Doyle says, “I didn’t leave the Republican Party, they left me.” As usual the Big Brother brainwashed have lost their ability to reason; the only thing that matters is the Party.

  • David A. H

    I feel that before you take someone at his word you should find out if he is a christian (someone who will stand before God and give an account of sin). That is not to say that a non-christian is incapable of telling the truth but My God says in Ps 1:1 to not council with the ungodly. I should seek my truth from more reliable sources. Ron Paul seems to me like one who bears fruit like a christian in that he takes his vows seriously in that he upholds and defends the U.S. Constitution. None of the others do and have not a reputation like Ron Paul has. Some people question his foreign policy but again he is just doing what he has vowed to do; work under the confines of the U.S. Constitution. I`m sure he would execute any command that Congress would give. If you think we need to do things abroad tell your representative and if it`s the right thing to do I`m sure Congress will figure it out. Better it be done with wisdom from council of many than just one. I believe that God is writing history(His story). We cannot be unblamable if we are just voting for the lesser of two evils. Vote for the right man and have a clear conscience. Leave the rest to God.

  • Lewis/Virginia

    It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

    http://libertyonline.hypermall.com/henry-liberty.html

    IS it not time once again for all good men and women to stand arm in arm and with one voice speak so clearly that even OUR GOVERNMENT understands WE the PEOPLE will not be ruled by Traitors!

  • Derrick Daughtry

    Bob, How do you reconcile your pro-liberty stance with your anti-abortion position and criticize anyone who might ‘dodge’ an immoral military draft?

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Derrick Daughtry,

      Please elaborate. Being pro-liberty and anti-abortion are not at odds and therefore need no reconciliation. I do not understand what you mean by, “criticize anyone who might ‘dodge’ an immoral military draft.”

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Robert Smith

        From Bob Livingston: “Being pro-liberty and anti-abortion are not at odds…”

        It certainly is if you are a pregnant woman and don’t necessarily want to carry to term for whatever reason.

        Rob

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Robert Smith,

          How so?

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • Robert Smith

            She wouldn’t have the liberty to decide for herself about carrying to term.

            Why is the judgement of an anti-abortion person any better than the judgement of any woman in the abortion issue? It’s her body.

            If you want the right to toss someone out of your house how can you insist that she keep someone inside her?

            Rob

          • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Rob Smith,

            You demonstrate a common misconception. A person should have liberty to do whatever he wants as long as it doesn’t negatively affect another. Obviously an abortion negatively affects the infant, who is killed in the procedure. So a woman should no more have the right to kill the baby inside her because she doesn’t want it, any more than she should be able to simply abandon or kill the infant after it is born for the simple reason that she no longer desires to have a baby. There are laws in place to protect the innocent in those cases. The Federal government does not have the authority in the Constitution to allow or disallow abortions (despite what misguided and illegal court rulings have determined). It is an issue that is reserved to the States under the 9th and 10th Amendments.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Robert Smith

            Bob Livingston says: “preventing the murder of an unborn child is not telling someone what they can and can’t do with their body.”

            First: “Murder” is a legal term and in most of America abortion is mostly legal. If you choose to put it into a religious context you would be attempting to establish a state religion based upon your belief that it is something in which a woman’s rights can be violated.

            Second: What part of being told to carry to term regardless of the woman’s wishes are isn’t messing with her ability to control her own body? BTW, what’s to stop government from requiring abortion in some circumstances, much as China has set up some heavy coersion to limit family size through abortion? As I’m sure you can guess, government can be very fickle at times.

            Third: Taking your position that it is a “person”… If you have someone who is in your house, even if they were originally invited by you, and you want them out you have the right to get them out. Even if they can’t get food and they demand you give it to them I’m sure you would object to such an arrangement if told by the government you had to take care of them. How is the woman in any different position wanting to get rid of someone not in her house but within her own body? If she could not decide for herself she would be in the position of being forced to take care of someone else for 100% of their needs, including oxygen, food, health care, and housing. Do you want to force women into a reproductive socialism? Looking around here socialism is mostly a very bad situation. Why do you demand it of women in the reproduction issue?

            “That is why I stand with the pro-life movement’s push to declare a fetus a child from the moment of conception.
            Jeremiah 1:5(KJV)”

            And there is that religion thing again. The American right wing taliban taking over. BTW, are you aware that there are some christians who understand choice? You can check some of them out at: http://www.catholicsforchoice.org/

            Rob

        • Nadzieja Batki

          So you must be a pregnant woman who does not want the baby you helped create. Why are you on this site? We are not the cause of the problems you create for yourself.

        • Joe H.

          Check rip again robbie???

  • Mark Are

    Excellent article. Ron Paul represents the 99% (though many don’t realize it). He represents an IDEA. He represents FREEDOM, LIBERTY, SELF RELIANCE, RESPONSIBILITY. The other candidates, including the current usurper in Chief, represent the 1%. Since there are many more of us, WE can rally around Ron Paul, and change the face of the world. Ron Paul said, “I am not interested in winning to be President. I am interested in winning to change history.” When he wins, history will show that the 1% are not the rulers but rather WE THE PEOPLE who the Constitution was written to be the guide of government for, are the rulers. The question…do we continue down the road to slavery? Or do we allow a true abolitionist to free us all from the chains of bondage that the Federal Reserve and world banksters have placed around the necks of every man, woman and child on this PLANET? THAT, my friends is the real crux of the matter. ARE WE GOING TO BE SLAVES for the 1% or are we going to have a planet of FREEDOM for the 99%. YOU CAN DECIDE, and say screw what “they” want! . RON PAUL 2012, 2016 RAND PAUL 2020, 2024!

    • Derrick Daughtry

      Power to the PEOPLE! Right on, Mark Are!

  • http://none Philip Dubois

    Bob:
    I am over 70 years in age and voted for every Republican candidate except for when I was stationed in the Army in France in 1957.
    You, sir, do not seem to have learned the first rule of politics yet! It’s simple-win!!!
    No one in the current candidates has the money or organization to even approximate Obama. More importantly, this election will have a multitude of disaffected Democrats,Jews and left leaning Independents who may find an ultra conservative or an extreme Christian Conservative rather difficult to follow. You may not be smart enough to realize this fact but the Democrats sure do and have already begun to attack Romney. In addition, Romney has an impeccable personal and family record.Ron Paul may posses this attribute but cannot win. Do You wnat to go down to defeat with Ron. Gingrich has more baggage than Federal Express but his ego blinds him to the fact. Santorum is a nice guy of faith but a lot of people are not excited about faith and so much on social issues that he stress. Also -NO MONEY! No Organization!
    Wake up! Smell Reality! Phil Dubois

    • Scott in SC

      So you prefer a dictator with an R by his name over one with a D by his name. I don’t see the difference.
      You seem to think Mitt is the only one who can defeat Obama, but nothing could be further from the truth. The nomination of Romney will be a guaranteed loss for the GOP.

    • DaveH

      This isn’t a football game, Philip. Simply winning isn’t good enough. You need to actually win something. And we don’t win by electing more of the same Progressive major party candidates. Unless, of course, you are in the Political Class and winning at the rest of our expense.

  • Rafael

    Bob Livingston is right.

    Look at the people that have lots of money and talked in the name of poverty, they are called “Caviar” in many countries. They are socialists, who don’t care, but themselves. Soros,Clinton,Gore etc.

  • http://Boblivingstonletter Gottaplenty

    It has been very obvious by the speeches given by the beauty contestants that it is a setup .Mitt Romney is the prettyboy for the Repubs. They and the media are working hard to get Mitt nominated…It is so obvious what the plan is. They all know Mitt would be eaten alive by Obummer so there fore it was again the peoples choice we get Obummer back again . tHINK ABOUT IT OUTSIDE THE RHETORIC BOX…..

  • Joe

    The only difference between Romney and Obama is one is WHITE and the other BLACK.

    • DaveH

      Half Black.

  • http://www.mackoforliberty.com David Macko

    Your analysis of the Republican Party, especially its establishment, is brilliant. However, since you did not discuss alternatives, I recommend that your readers see http://www.lp.org, the website of the Libertarian Party.
    After the Republicans practice their time honored tradition and stab Ron Paul in the back, he and all other Republicans who believe in liberty and the Constitution have another home.

  • Old Henry

    Bob:

    I think I will announce my candidacy for POTUS. Would you like to be my campaign manger?

    Upon election I pledge to:
    Immediately collect Reid, Dubin, Pelosi, Hoyer, the entire previous administration, Bush, Cheney, all members of the Socialist Democrats, the entire upper echelon of the DNC and GOP. They will be given accommodations at Leavenworth to await trial for treason. (It may take awhile as I will be quite busy cleaning up their messes)

    Within 6 months, or less, I will close any and all military bases that are not on U.S. soil.

    Within 3 months, or less, I will be COMPLETELY out of the ME.

    Our Naval fleet will be immediately deployed just off our shores in the Atlantic and Pacific. (For you Obama supporters those are the two rather large “ponds” you see when looking east and west from those respectve shores)

    By 1:00 P.M. on 1/20/13 I will have instituted “Operation Wetback II” and all illegals will be back in Mexico by 2/1/13. Our troops will wscort them to the border and be given instructions to shoot anything sneaking north.

    By 1:30 on 1/20/13 I will have shut down and eliminated all Cabinet posts and staff other than Defense.

    By 2:00 pm I will have eliminated all aspects of the Federal EPA.

    By 2/1/13 I will have confiscated all assets of the afore mentioned individuals, had them liquidated and placed into our SS Trust Fund.

    I will instruct Congress to eliminate all gun laws as they are all illegal per our Second Amendment.

    By 2/1/13 I will have removed the U.S. from the U.N. and instructed them to be off U.S. soil by 12/31/13.

    Since the IRS will be gone with the other illegal agencies I will instruct Congress to begin the process of eliminating the 16th Amendment.

    I will get the U.S. out of NAFTA / GAT by year end.

    All grants / give-aways from the Treasury will be eliminated. I will have the budget balanced, or in suplus, by Independence Day 2013.

    By end of business on 1/21/13 I will have notified all countries that we will be out of, and stay our of, their business, but if they, ah, “infringe” on us or our soil they will cease to exist on planet Earth within 24 hours of the infringement.

    This is a mild good start, but I did not want it to be too long as the ADD Obama supporters would not be able to comprehend too much more.

    My motto: “Old Henry & his Old Henry for President”

    • http://lamebrained-ideas.blogspot.com C.Davis

      Good post,O.H. Is it rhetorical or did you put your money where your mouth is over at RonPaul2012.com? The improbable he will do immediately, the impossible may take a little bit longer.

      • Old Henry

        C Davis:

        I have indeed put my $ where my mouth is. I have a Ron Paul cap I wear everywhere and 4 tee shirts I wore until the weather “went south”. I have 3 yard signs on order and have donated sever hundred $ to the campaign outright. Can’t afford it, but cant’ affornd not to.

        Sooo, ifn ya see an old guy with a Ron Paul cap and an anti-Soetoro tee shirt – that’d be me. Or, a Ron Paul cap and a Ron Paul tee shirt (ifn the temp is above 75) that’d be me.

        Ain’t been shot at….. yet.

    • http://yahoo ron

      OH,
      I agree 100%. I thought I was the only person around stating these very things.

      • Old Henry

        ron:

        I think our numbers are leagion. It’s just that many of “us” are hesitant to vocalize it. Me, I don’t give the south end of a rat what people think and will (and have) agure with the best of them.

        • Joe H.

          Old Henry,
          give ‘em hell old man!!! It isn’t just the young that support R. Paul as the press would have you believe!! My wife and I are both over fifty-five, myself 61 and we support him!! Ohio went to him in the straw polls!!! I will vote for R. Paul if I have to write him in!!

    • JayA

      Presidents have no power to end treaties, or close bases, or do any of the other things most people-including Ron Paul-swear they would do if they were President. CONGRESS handles all of those things. Treaties-once signed by the President, and ratified by Congress-become US LAW. The Constitution REQUIRES the President to UPHOLD the law. So many Republicans, and Libertarians, have so much FEELING on the issues, but they have so little KNOWLEDGE. They don’t know The Constitution. They don’t know what are the powers of Congress, and what are the powers of The President. They need to start READING THE CONSTITUTION, and paying attention to THAT, instead of falling for the campaign rhetoric BS the candidates throw at them.

      • Mark in LA

        Actually, due to our Supreme Court many treaties really aren’t. The United Steel Workers of America sued over NAFTA not getting 67% of the Senate. The courts held that it wasn’t really a treaty therefore didn’t need the Constitutioanlly mandated Senate ratification. That was one sorry decision.They also added some other nonsesne about it being related to taxes and therefor not subject to treaty rules. It is sad when the judiciary is also complicit in the trashing of the Constitution.

      • Old Henry

        Jay:

        Congress has been rendered impotent / irrelevant by Soetoro.

  • Karolyn

    What I want to know is where is Ron Paul in SC? I have not received any phone messages from his compaign, while getting 3-4 every day from Rommney and Gingrich. He also has not been shown compaigning anywhere. As a matter of the fact, on Saturday a headline on one Charlotte news station was “Where is Ron Paul?” because he had not been seen. I don’t get the SC TV stations because I’m closest to Charlotte, so I don’t know how his TV campaign is going. My friends and I are doing our best for him, but he needs to get his butt in gear! There is a debate in Myrtle Beach tonight. Hope he does well.

    • DaveH

      He doesn’t have the big bucks the other campaigners have. But you can donate here:
      http://www.ronpaul2012.com/

    • libertytrain

      Karolyn – I’m just the opposite – all but one station for me is SC. So yes, I see all your commercials and Ron Paul is running commercials.

    • JeffH

      Ron Paul Support in South Carolina Surges and Puts Him Solidly in Top Three
      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ron-paul-support-south-carolina-175500611.html

      • JayA

        Paul will place last in SC.

        • JeffH

          Are you a betting man?

        • Jay

          He’s not a betting man ,Jeff, just an impostor, and i have a pretty good idea who he might be. I suspect its payback for an exchange we had on another thread. Claims to be a born-again Christian. More like the devils-advocate!

          • JeffH

            :)

          • Joe H.

            Jay,
            too bad, I’d like some of that money myself!!!

    • Old Henry

      Karolyn:

      I think DaveH has told Ron Paul not to bother calling your house…

  • Henry Ledbetter

    THERE IS HOPE… Mrs. Florence a 91 year old Saint of God from our church passed over this week. It was said that when the paramedic asked her age , birthday and the year she responded correctly. He then asked who the president was and she responded, we don;t have one. The paramedic then said, I can handle that. Could it be that there may be more of us than there are of them.and “if God be for us then who could stand against us.”???

    • Old Henry

      That’s a good one Henry. I did, however, think as I was reding it that she answered Ron Paul. Sort of a vision..

    • Joe H.

      Henry,
      had you said Montpelier Ohio, I would have asked her last name, but mine was over a year ago now! She was my foster mom!!

    • Robert Smith

      Henry posted: ““if God be for us then who could stand against us.”???”

      Tom Brady of the Patriots.

      Rob

  • DavidL

    I don’t often say this to you, Bob, but very good article. There is a lot of truth in what you say. When conservatives supported W.Bush and, on may levels (not all) he bombed, where were the conservatives going to go, left? No way. They went even further to the right which is where they are now. Mitt Romney will be the nominee and the conservatives, not all but most, will hold their nose and support him. He will lose, and President Obama will be re-elected. I am hearing more and more each day from my republican friends that they believe four more years of President Obama is better than eight years of Romney. And it gives them a shorter window of time to re-capture the republican party and return it to sanity.

    The republican party, as it is constituted today, will, as you say, disappear. Any party calling itself Republican but would never nominate a Ronald Reagan, or treat Ron Paul the way it does, deserves to go out of existence. It will, I believe, reemerge a more moderate and a more effective political force. This change will be to the benefit of our country.

  • Delores Smith

    BOB LIVINGSTON,
    I see things differently than you. There is an orchestrated effort to bump off one Republican candidate at a time. The leaders are George Soros and Obama. Obama fears debating MITT ROMNEY. GINGRICH belongs to the Council for Foreign Affairs who are working for a New World Order for Soros. Here is one thing I’m working on. Jon Huntsman, Jr skipped Iowa, said that Iowa plants corn and N.H picks Presidents. The night before Huntsman gave his speech in N.H after coming in 3rd, Huntsman stated that “Everyone is so excited. People are coming from all over the country.” The room was filled with supporters, but unlike any supporters ever around Huntsman. I would call them Union Thugs and fakes that I’ve seen around Obama. O’Keefe did a story interviewing workers at the polls. No I.D. is required to vote in N.H. N.H., had 900 deceased persons registered, mostly Democrats. I will bet you that those deceased people voted for Huntsman, and that Obama and Soros arranged this to bring 3rd place to Huntsman. Huntsman had his 3rd place ticket to South Carolina, where he polled LAST. The so-called supporters were not at his speech, the following night, nor did they follow him to S.C. Keep in mind, BOB, that you said that Huntsman’s campaign manager is a Democratic operative. I smell a rat! What candidate would come in 3rd in NH, and give up when the debate is tonight, and the election is on Saturday? A candidate would do this if he was working with Obama to disrupt the debates. Keep in mind that Huntsman worked for Obama as Ambassador to China. Huntsman knew people were coming from all over the country, but his campaign manager, the Democrati operative, could have arranged this without Huntsman’s knowledge. BOB, I support MITT ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT. I would give Ron Paul a new Cabinet Level position handling the Constitution of the U.S. His Department would review bills from Congress to determine Constitutionality of the bills, advise President Romney accordingly before he signs them. Ron Paul could also have authority to audit the Federal Reserve AND the U.S. Treasury Dept. To just audit the Federal Reserve would be meaninless, because numbers flow back and forth from the FR to the Treasury Dept. I believe that Timothy Geithner, U.S Treasury Sec’y, is accumulating funds for Soros/Obama for New World Order.I know it.
    Thanks, Bob.
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

    • Tom W.

      “The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.”
      Martin Luther King Jr., Strength to Love, 1963

      • JeffH

        Tom W. :)

        I will add that Ron Paul has been the “tortoise” in this race. Slow and steady, gaining momentum each and every day. He has endured the attacks on him from both sides and continues his surge. Not only does he have a tremendous amount of support from our militay’s soldiers but he is gaining support from our nation’s younger voters and independents as well as frustrated Democrats.

        • JayA

          Young voters do not vote. Look at Iowa. In the phone polls, online polls, etc, Paul pulled 65% of the vote. However, at the Caucus, he pulled less than a third of that. His young supporters supported him enough to punch a button on their computer keyboard … but not enough to get off their butts, go to the polling place, and actually vote for him. It would have meant interrupting their WOW conventions, and pot parties. They don’t like Paul THAT much. So it will be in Election day. It always is. The 18-29 year olds have the lowest turn outs.

          • JeffH

            Young voters are propelling Ron Paul’s campaign.

          • JeffH

            Polling-place interviews in New Hampshire and Iowa found younger voters in both states were just as likely as older voters to cite the economy as their top concern. Paul won among younger voters who said the economy is the most important issue. Overall, he drew 46 percent of under-30 voters in New Hampshire, beating front-runner Mitt Romney by a full 20 percentage points in that age group. In Iowa, he got 48 percent of the youth vote, 12 points higher than top-two-finishers Romney and Rick Santorum combined.

            Ron Paul’s young supporters may choose not to back either Obama or the Republican primary victor.
            http://www.abcnews4.com/story/16508016/young-voters-propelling-ron-pauls-campaign

          • Jay

            The evidence, that Dr. Ron Paul is attracting a considerable number of young voters, is not only compelling, but i suspect, is found to be most troubling to the sh*t-for-brains elites, and lovers of the status-quo. Hence, the dissemination of misinformation by the trolls, and sock-puppets!

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Delores Smith,

      Romney is a Bilderberg-approved foil to Obama. This gives them both horses in the race. Which one wins, they care not.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • 45caliber

        Sad but true.

    • Joe H.

      dolores
      If you check, I think you will find that Huntsman dropped out today!!

  • http://nowebsite Jim Mitchell

    Kokopelli says:
    This is an excellent article. And I see from the long list of “responses” that many people agree with you, Bob. I was a Republican 50 yrs ago when it really was “the grand old party.” I can’t vote for this lying, corrupt, thieving bunch of rascals and scalawags who make up the party today. And I can’t vote for America’s first dictator (Obama) either. And If I don’t vote at all I am shirking my responsibility as a U.S. citizen. My only hope is that somehow Dr. Paul will eke out a win here. He is the only fish in the pond who MAY be able to save our country from the (Republican AND Democrat) sharks that have somehow gotten into our pond.

  • sj

    We will dance in the streets when Ron Paul wins the general election!!! The time for Revolution is here and we can win and will !!! Be afraid you handful of elite be very afraid for we are coming for you soon. Fare well “Federal” Reserve Fare well IRS. Give our reguards to the devil.

    • JayA

      Presidents have no power to end the FR, or close departments,or put us on a gold standard, or end fiat money. Those are all the jobs of Congress. For a President to even TRY ANY of these things would be UNCONSTITUTIONAL, and lead to his impeachment. Paul is pulling your leg. He was in Congress for 26 years, and made no earnest effort to do any of these things. He sure never accomplished them. Now he promises that if we make him President, he will do them. How? The only way he could do them-as President-would be to throw out the Constitution, throw out Congress, throw out the Supreme Court, and become a dictator ruling as King by Royal Fiat. And all the little ‘freedom bunnies’ support this dictator wannabe.

      • JeffH

        Obviously you’re the “other” Jay!

        • Jay

          Yes he is, Jeff. TY for noticing!

      • Joe H.

        JayA,
        Actually they don’t have to pass anything to put us back on the gold standard. It was already passed during Kennedys term and as far as I know was never repealed. all that has to come to pass is it to be ENFORCED!! Kennedy was assasinated over this very bill!! It was HB 11110.

    • Blue Devil

      SJ — We shall dance in the streets IF Ron Paul wins in the general election. It is by no means certain yet, but it is looking better all the time

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    I am Stunned… By the “So called” American Politicans… And the Dumb Voters, that pick a Good Leader! ( None Available.) Yet, not much in our past, we made Satalites ~ Space Stations, Nuclear energy, Cars that will keep the drivers out of a wreck. Cell Phones that are Navagaters, incyclopedias, Phone books, Many Games, Clock,Calender,in the size of a Shirt Pocket. Yet we can’t have a leader to respect!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      These things came into existance because of the creativity of individuals.
      Politicians are power lusters and are usually dangerously flawed.

  • Dan

    Thank you Mr Livingston. You have voiced how so many of us feel. I’m proud to be called a Paulbot, Paultard or any other name the MSM and their cronies can come up with. Why? Because I am proud to support the only politician in my lifetime who I feel is a true constitutional conservative. Your well written articel says it all. If not nominated by the GOP, I will write in Dr. Paul. No one else deserves or will get my vote for any reason. I vote for the best man for the job, regardless of party affiliation, and that man is Dr. Ron Paul.

    • JayA

      In most states, you can’t write in anyone during the primary. By the General Election time, it won’t matter how many write in who. It will still be between Romney, and Obama…and Obama will win. The GOP is GIVING this one to the Dems.

      • Blue Devil

        Jay — Don’t bet your paycheck on it!!!!

        • Joe H.

          Blue Devil,
          i think I know what that capital A stands for!!! Make sure you include it as to not insult the other JAY!!

          • Blue Devil

            Joe H — Sorry!!!

  • MNIce

    Near the beginning of the article, Bob Livingston wrote, “according to the Real Clear Politics polling average, almost three out of four of potential Republican voters want the nominee to be someone [other than Romney].”

    Later in the article, the he asserts, “Republican voters have been duped. The elite, backed by their MSM propaganda arm, have convinced (conned?) them into believing that Romney’s nomination is inevitable and that he’s the “most electable” Republican in the field, despite the fact that only 322,786 votes have been cast in two small States.
    Republican voters seem almost content to allow 122,547 voters (Romney’s total in the two States) to decide a winner in a country of more than 311 million people.”

    This is a contradiction, unless we’re being duped into thinking somebody other than Romney ought to be the candidate. I hear very little “contentment” with the notion of Romney as the party standard-bearer. Most of us see him as another slow-motion disaster for the party grassroots. The real argument in the party is who else should be the candidate.

    Ron Paul, (Livingston’s obvious favorite) faces a number of hurdles as a candidate, and he needs to explain to the party how he will overcome them. Many people like Ron Paul’s constitutional principles, but are scared spitless by his foreign policy position, and regard it as naive at best and foolhardy at worst. It is not enough to claim we will solve our problems in this area by bringing the troops home. This will create a power vacuum, and evil-minded dictatorships will test it with mischief to see how much of it they can exploit. Three in particular come to mind: North Korea will attack its southern neighbor, China will probably move on Taiwan (should we sacrifice all of Taiwan’s freedom for a little of ours?), and Iran will try to make Iraq its puppet state and bully its other neighbors in a bid to keep oil prices high. One might argue these are none of our business. But on the international scene, the business of America is business. All of these scenarios threaten our customers or suppliers, or reduce our choices for purchasing goods. Another issue is future access to natural resources. In particular, China and its corporations are locking up the rights to minerals, gas and oil all over the world in a bid to control the majority of the market. How would a Ron Paul administration act to keep the resource market open in the long run so we are not forced to pay ruinous prices or sacrifice our freedom?

    Any totalitarian state must regard a large free state as a threat, because the free state gives the oppressed people an example of how things could be better. It is in our interests, therefore, to discourage government excesses in Russia, China, and Iran so they will not be painting targets on our map. How would a Ron Paul administration do this, with or without military alliances? These and many other questions must be answered to gain the acceptance of the rest of the “not-Romney” party members.

    One of the problems Herman Cain had (and it would have killed his candidacy had the allegations of adultery not threatened his marriage and forced him to pull out) is that he got in the habit of answering every economic policy question with “9-9-9″ as if his tax plan was a panacea. Ron Paul is making a similar error with his foreign policy – it just isn’t as simple as promising not to meddle in other countries internal affairs. International relations are important to this country, and it is the primary role of the federal government according to the Constitution. Ron Paul must explain his plan for our relations with other nations beyond closing foreign bases.

    Others question whether he has the executive ability to lead an administration (the Ron Paul Newsletter issue might add to this concern, but given how long ago that problem arose, that could be chalked up to on-the-job learning experience). In particular we know he will face a hostile bureaucracy and their government employee unions, and lobbyists will run a full court press on Congress against his policies, because both groups stand to lose a lot of power, money and even their jobs. Is Dr. Paul strong enough to take them on, and make the necessary cuts to the government? Can he downsize one of the world’s largest dysfunctional organizations and manage it all without undue disruption to the nation?

    The other candidates have their problems, which other writers have discussed many times in this venue. I’ve seen a lot of pro – Ron Paul pieces, but little reasoned discourse on what he needs to close the deal with the party rank and file. It’s not going to be enough to whine about the “leadership”, and it certainly isn’t going to help to bad-mouth the Republican Party as a clone of the Democrat Party. Leave that idiocy for the Greens and their ilk. The majority of the Republican Party is not happy with Romney, and I suspect many of those who nominally support him are making excuses for why they should rather than being in full agreement with his candidacy.

    • Tom W.

      “Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man’s sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true.”
      Martin Luther King Jr.

    • sj

      You make some valid points, I invite you to look closer at Dr. Pauls stated policy and beliefs he is not an isolationist as many claim. He would keep communications open and promote trade with all countries

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear MNlce,

      There is no contradiction there. Read it again.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • NC

        Mr. Livingston, it it much too early now but at some point before election day 2012, should Mr. Paul not make the ballot, you should consider telling the young voters that their future is much too precarious to waste with a write-in ballot. The young in the military have shown in no uncertain numbers their concerns about future multiple deployment with their contributions to Dr. Paul as opposed to the other Republican candidates.Their future, in that regard, is much more secured by the man who is bringing them home NOW than in the hands of the Republican hawks who will go to war in a heart beat for another big military build UP with big corporate contracts. They have already done it! A write in for Dr. Paul just might get you more of what you wrote about today. Make their vote count. You can do it!!

        • JeffH

          NC says: “Mr. Livingston, it it much too early now but at some point before election day 2012, should Mr. Paul not make the ballot, you should consider telling the young voters that their future is much too precarious to waste with a write-in ballot”

          Really? Really? You’re not serious are you? You are serious!
          Excuse me while I LMAO & PMP. You shouldn’t disrespect Mr. Livingston like that!

  • Danny Smtz

    Bob I am very thankful for what you wrote. I also read all the comments.
    The more I listen to Ron Paul and his vision for the U.S. the stronger I feel support in my heart for him, I just wonder who he would choose for his running mate if he wins the primary. Do you have any thoughts on this. Surely none of the rest that are running in the primary would have any resemblance to the noble man that Ron Paul is.

    • Joe H.

      Danny Smtz,
      R. Paul was asked that very question. He answered I don’t know, that Judge Napolitano fella looks pretty good to me. I trust his judgement on that as I have watched Judge Andrew Napolitano on Many occaisions and I like a whole lot, what I hear from him!!

  • Gin

    Aach!! Republicans…Democrats…owned by the same people. They want Romney or Gingrich because they have soooo much baggage, B.O. would have a field day throwing it in their faces, as a detraction from his 1st term failure and the issues at hand. They just want B.O. in there for a 2nd term to completely destroy this country. And if Romney or Gingrich are the nominee, they will have it. Oh, and as for Perry, he’s so drugged up on pain-killers, he wouldn’t be able to complete a sentence in a debate…if he could even stay awake. Santorum is the big money spender (ex-Pennsylvanian…we KNOW!). So, if we could get the voters to use common sense and vote for Ron Paul…oh, yeah! Could you even imagine how he would eat B.O. alive in a debate? B.O. w/o a monitor to tell him what to say? Ask B.O. the same question that Dr. Paul asked McCain? He wouldn’t have a clue what he was talking about…much like McCain!

  • Barry

    I laugh at all those that claim of being Christian. If it were so…we like Christ would throw the money changers out!
    Instead the only man that lives by enforcing the Constitution has all these questions about foriegn policy,welfare blah blah blah. We need something as focused as Ron Paul and let the chips fall where they may.Enforce the Bill of Rights and Constitution…period.
    Vote the man in and at least something will change instead of us taxpayers getting “shortchanged”.

    • Tom W.

      “To be a Christian, one must take up his cross, with all it’s difficulties and agonizing and tention-packed content, and carry it until that very cross leaves it’s mark upon us and redeems us to that more excellent way which comes only through suffering.”
      MLK Jr.

  • Thor

    In the posts I’m reading here I sense the confused rumblings of those who feel themselves betrayed by their government. Understated perhaps…but concerning sentiments well-founded. The following, chronologically arranged quotes illustrate the evolution of the sentiment:

    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, go from us in peace. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!” Samuel Adams

    “The difference between a welfare state and a totalitarian state is a matter of time.” Ayn Rand

    “A ballot is like a bullet. You don’t throw your ballots until you see a target, and if that target is not within your reach, keep your ballot in your pocket.” Malcolm X, April 3, 1964, at Cory Methodist Church in Cleveland, Ohio

    “If ballots don’t work bullets will.” Joyce Kaufman

    http://www.crowleypoliticalreport.com/2010/11/allen-west-chief-of-staff-if-ballots-dont-work-bullets-will.html

    It seems then, if rhetoric reflect true feelings, that without genuine change, the game of violence may be afoot.

    It would be interesting to hear the Kaufman speech with the name ‘Ron Paul’ in place of “Allen West” (West won the election, by the way) broadcast nationally, for once, along with the reminder that, even if the vote were split three ways, someone would still have to get a majority of the electoral votes to win. No majority of electors, no win equals ‘runoff’—the first in American History. Left with only Obama and Paul—whom do you think voters will vote for? Even the Cable Guy could expect a landslide against so vile an opponent.

    The next thing on the agenda, along with scrapping the Federal Reserve, should be the re-apportioning of electoral votes to better suit the popular vote and majority rule so that electors are no longer apportioned in blocks, the way Alexander Hamilton suggested—each electoral vote being awarded to the candidate who garnered the majority vote in the district represented by it.

  • C. R.

    Why don’t we all say that the Democrat Party and the GOP both have outgrown their usefulness because neither represent WE, the people! They both need checkup from the neck up. They only work a few days a year, their aides do most of the work, along with lobbyists and PACs, and then expect to continue in office to enrich themselves. WE, the people, need to get together and truly clean house. We have just a little time left and the vote this year is crucial. We know we have to get Obama out. I do not like Romney because is, like Boehner, don’t have the backbone to stand up to Obama, BUT we need to get rid of Obama and as one responder said, I, too, would vote for dog to get rid of Obama! Then in 2016 we truly start the clean up. Start harping and carping because both parties are old (many mentally deficient because they can’t seem to think and relate to us, their constituents), need revision or even ousted. If we want a third party, we have to wait until Obama is out this year and then start thinking about what kind of representation ALL of us need. I vote for the person and not the party, and suggest the same to everyone. The Party doesn’t need you except to keep them in place and power and to the devil with you. Let’s ALL vote a candidate because fortunately we have a number of them from which to choose. I am a Constitutionalist and want to bring America back to the Constitution and Declaration (which I hope EVERYONE has read and if not, you need to) and we need to start in that direction yesterday. Talk is cheap. What are you doing to bring about the America we love, want and need? There are those who are close minded and mentally lacking, but the majority of us can pull this next election off by working together. I am pleased that a large number of Demos have left the party, so there is hope there. So now if the Repub Party loses more members, we true patriots can win back America. It is worth the time and trouble to think, reason and then act. Just spouting old verbiage because you are a “Party” person is ridiculous. Get informed and get America back on track with the held of EVERYONE! I vote for the person and never the party which I learned living and working in other countries. Smarter choices that way. We do not need to waste our military lives and money instigating nor assisting other countries. We made our freedom, let them choose to do so themselves and put themselves on the line to do it. We need our people here and there is plenty of work to be done, so don’t worry about jobs, worry about socialism and communism, both of which I have had experience with and I see Obama and his puppeteer(s) pushing us in that direction more each day. Just note the laws and regulations this prez has signed into law. Worry and work to get change and real hope!

    • JayA

      Most of the laws signed by this President were written, and voted for, by the REPUBLICONS in office. The GOP is doomed, and justifiably so. A new party is needed, and a new candidate to lead it. Paul talks the talk, but does not walk the walk. He is as Republican as Nixon, and as phony as Jerry Falwell.

      • JeffH

        Jay, it’s easy to say it but maybe you can prove it…references, cites, etc…something besides your “word”?

        • Jay

          Jeff, this impostor, or clued-out poster is using identical moniker. I’m the Jay that supports Ron Paul, and everything that Ron Paul stands for. I believe this putz, impostor, Jay, is intentionally creating confusion!

          • JeffH

            I figured as much.

            https://en.gravatar.com/

          • Joe H.

            Jay,
            Hence the “A”!!! Even a blind man can see the difference in your thoughts!!!

          • Jay

            Thanks JoeH. Btw, the “A” was added after, i expressed my annoyance.

        • Jay

          Jeff, would you kindly post the address for the avatars that you use. TY

    • http://matthewsworks.com Matthew Felton

      Here we all are bantering back and forth, and this not even including any liberals in the discussion as I can see… Oh how the ones who look down upon us as pawns and laugh and laugh as we spew their rhetoric at each other. Then flick us off the board with their pinky finger if we get in the way or to become “acceptable collateral damage” in their quest of conquest. Better yet make bets amongst themselves…for a single almost now worthless dollar nonetheless…to see who can be first to march one of us all the way across the board to crown as the new puppet queen.

      Goodnight my fellow Americans, I love you all – even if you and I disagree – and hope and pray that your children’s children will live to be free.

      • SMILEE

        I suspect that liberals are not saying much as they are sitting back with a smile on their faces watching you all beat up on on each other. I am betting they are loving it.

  • Monte

    Dead on the head, Bob!
    “Besides, it’s looking more and more like the GOP is going the way of the Whig Party that spawned it.” Good riddance. And the sooner the better. Once the party of Lincoln is out of the way maybe we can create a REAL conservative party. The Republican Party-the party that talks one way and does another-is one of the major reasons we’re in the fix we’re in.

  • http://leigonm@bellsouth.net Marion

    Bob: Your column for today is fabulous! Every word! I won’t even
    bother to mention any of the detractors (some who cannot even spell)!
    This was one of your BEST, and I’m forwarding it to interested people.
    My father was a newspaper man, and I grew up in that atmosphere.
    Anyway, thanks.

  • Byron Mullet

    Could Newt be falling on his own sword for the good of the country instead of selling out capitalism which he “appears” to be doing?

    One: He inoculates Romney against Obama’s attacks if Romney does win the nomination

    Two: If he can unseat Romney then he puts the “compassionate conservative” face back on the Republican Party at a time when people feel animosity towards Wall Street and big business…and maybe the Party of the “big cats.” End result he inoculates the Republican Party too…

    Byron in Ohio

  • Jay

    Since the supreme leader of the Mormon faith is considered by its adherents to be endowed with prophetic powers, might not the independence of a faithful Mormon elected to the presidency of the United States be compromised by his loyalty to his faith’s ultimate authority?

  • Jay

    Mormon representation in American politics has grown beyond demographic equilibrium. With over five million members living in the United States (11 million world wide), Mormons account for 1.6% of the U.S. population, but more than 5% of elected representatives in congress. Please don’t tell Jesse Jackson.

    Just a few examples: in the House of Representatives there is Jeff Flake (AZ), John Doolittle (CA), Wally Herger (CA), Howard McKeon (CA), Ernest Istook (OK), Mike Simpson (ID), Thomas Udall (NM), Rob Bishop (UT), and Chris Cannon (UT). All except Udall are Republican. (Udall notes his faith as unspecified, but he comes from a long historical line of Mormon politicians) There are 21 Mormon members in the House of Representatives all together.

    In the Senate there are 5 Mormons. Senators Orrin Hatch and Bob Bennett, both from Utah, Senator Mike Crapo of Idaho and Gordon Smith from Oregon (the latter is considered a moderate Republican). The fifth member of the Senate is the ultimate exception to the rule: Senator Harry Reid, senior member of the Democrat leadership and, by all accounts, left-leaning.

    Outside Washington you have the successful gubernatorial candidacy of Olympic organizer Mitt Romney, Bay Buchanan, radio talk show host Glenn Beck, and most recently, former Utah Governor Mike Leavitt was confirmed as Secretary of the EPA.

    http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article3282.html

  • Americanfreedom70

    One common thread permeates this article and most of the posts:our Liberty, and Freedom have not been in as much jepardy as they are today (not since our ancestors left the oldworld). This includes Hitler and Japan. They knew full well that any attack on our soil would bring every man, woman and child capable of loading, firing, or carrying a gun to bear. the rest would work in support. “Divide and conquer” was/is their only option. Unfortunately it has worked. This is the end of the line to a peaceful reclamation of our liberty. We ALL (repubs, dems, independants) as citizens of the most liberated country in the entire world need to start holding ALL of our “public Servants” to a higher standard. The one question we should be asking of everyone is “what have you done for the defense of the Constitution and Liberty today?” This is OUR time to be reguarded as “the greatest generation”. Let this be known as the year we all declared “We’re madder than hell and we ain’t gonna take it no more” (Charlie Daniels simple man) and in one unified voice “We will not go quietly, we will never surrender ourselves to your will, we will fight with every last measure our CREATOR endowed upon us intelectually or physically.” It is time to re-instill fear of resiprosity into our political system. Only when they believe that Freedom and Liberty are our top priorities (and should be theirs to) will they strive to protect them in an attempt to protect themselves. A government “Of, For and By the people is not an outdated concept”. The bag of tricks they have been drawing on is almost empty. OURS is still full. Either get behind us or get run over! “We will not go quietly into the night” We do not forget, Expect us, We will come for you.

  • http://wolfpack2012.net JThaddeustoad

    Interesting stats … So what is the point?? are these representatives trying to convert the nation… The mormans have a rich history and they pioneered the settlment of the western part of this country… They headed west as a result of religous persecution and in the process opened up a trade route that proved beneficial to the whole nation … Governor Huntsman has done a great job in Utah … We have become so jaded in this country, that anyone who elects to defer to a higher authority is looked at as a fanatic or a religous nut… this will have to change if want to remain free..

    • Jay

      Good, and clever answer, brother JThaddeustoad! Nudge nudge, wink wink!

  • JayA

    If Paul were worth an ounce of cow pie, he would have set up his own third party by now, and would be running as it’s candidate. He does not want to be POTUS. He is in the race only to get a taxpayer funded publicity tour for his books. He voted against providing seeing eye dogs for Veterans blinded in combat. He voted against providing educational benefits for Veterans. He has voted for everthing which would have benefitted big business in the way of tax cuts, pay reductions for employees, etc. If Wrong Paul is your best hope, then you are truly doomed.

    • Jay

      Hey Jay, please cite reliable sources to confirm your accusations, otherwise, shut the hell up! Btw, Your moniker looks familiar. Is it because of something i said?

      • JeffH

        Jay, and I believe you are the good Jay… :)

    • Joe H.

      JayA,
      Untill you show us some PROOF of your assertions, I will call you a liar!!! You, young sir are a bald faced LIAR!!!

  • libertarian58

    The job of the GOP is to ensure the re-election of obama. I have NO DOUBT that instructions came down the chain to do exactly that. The puppet masters pull all the strings and the sheeple are so stupid, they follow along like the mindless lemmings that they are, unable to see the charade for what it is. When we are all living like North Koreans, these will be the ones asking “what happened??”

  • the unfortunate truth

    Bob livingston , you are to journalism, what ron burgundy thought he was . You reasonable man in a time of deceitful unreasonable people . And you debate just as well .

    Keep up the good work .

  • the unfortunate truth

    Stay classy internet people .

  • John R. Stallworth

    I agree with 90/95% of the article. Again, let me say that this nation is one vast insane asylum with the worst patients running it. Our chance of survival is nil.

  • Rick

    You folks here have no idea what an insideous person Obama actually is and why it’s imperative to unite around ANYONE who opposes this man.

    Please read the following article by Dr. Sam Vaknin, an Israeli psychologist who has written extensively regarding Narcissim and Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD).

    Dr. Vaknin states “I must confess I was impressed by Obama from the first time I saw him. At first I was excited to see a black candidate. He looked youthful, spoke well, appeared to be confident — a wholesome presidential package. I was put off soon, not just because of his shallowness but also because there was an air of haughtiness in his demeanor that was unsettling.. His posture and his body language were louder than his empty words. Obama’s speeches are unlike any political speech we have heard in American history. Never a politician in this land had such quasi “religious” impact on so many people.

    The fact that Obama is a total incognito with Zero accomplishment, makes this inexplicable infatuation alarming. Obama is not an ordinary man. He is not a genius. In fact he is quite ignorant on most important subjects.”

    Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of the Malignant Self Love believes “Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist.” Vaknin is a world authority on narcissism. He understands narcissism and describes the inner mind of a narcissist like no other person. When he talks about narcissism everyone listens. Vaknin says that Obama’s language, posture and demeanor, and the testimonies of his closest, dearest friends suggest that the man is either a narcissist or he may have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).

    Narcissists project a grandiose but false image of themselves. Jim Jones, the charismatic leader of People’s Temple, the man who led over 900 of his followers to cheerfully commit mass suicide and even murder their own children was also a narcissist. David Koresh, Charles Manson, Joseph Koni, Shoko Asahara, Stalin, Saddam, Mao, Kim Jong Ill and Adolph Hitler are a few examples of narcissists of our time. All these men had a tremendous influence over their fanciers. They created a personality cult around themselves and with their blazing speeches elevated their admirers, filled their hearts with enthusiasm and instilled in their minds a new zest for life. They gave them hope! They promised them the moon, but alas, invariably they brought them to their doom.

    When you are a victim of a cult of personality, you don’t know it until it is too late. One determining factor in the development of NPD is childhood abuse “Obama’s early life was decidedly chaotic and replete with traumatic and mentally bruising dislocations,”says Vaknin. “Mixed-race marriages were even less common then. His parents went through a divorce when he was an infant two years old. Obama saw his father only once again, before he died in a car accident. Then his mother re-married and Obama had to relocate to Indonesia , a foreign land with a radically foreign culture, to be raised by a step-father. At the age of ten, he was whisked off to live with his maternal (white) grandparents. He saw his mother only intermittently in the following few years and then she vanished from his life in 1979. “She died of cancer in 1995.”

    One must never underestimate the manipulative genius of pathological narcissists. They project such an imposing personality that it overwhelms those around them. Charmed by the charisma of the narcissist, people become like clay in his hands. They cheerfully do his bidding and delight to be at his service. The narcissist shapes the world around himself and reduces others in his own inverted image. He creates a cult of personality. His admirers become his co-dependents. Narcissists have no interest in things that do not help them to reach their personal objective. They are focused on one thing alone and that is power. All other issues are meaningless to them and they do not want to waste their precious time on trivialities. Anything that does not help them is beneath them and does not deserve their attention.

    If an issue raised in the Senate does not help Obama in one way or another, he has no interest in it. The “present” vote is a safe vote. No one can criticize him if things go wrong. Those issues are unworthy by their very nature because they are not about him.

    Obama’s election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to write a book about race relations. The University of Chicago Law School provided him a lot longer than expected and at the end it evolved into, guess what? His own autobiography! Instead of writing a scholarly paper focusing on race relations, for which he had been paid, Obama could not resist writing about his most sublime self. He entitled the book Dreams from My Father.

    Not surprisingly, Adolph Hitler also wrote his own autobiography when he was still a nobody. So did Stalin. For a narcissist no subject is as important as his own self. Why would he waste his precious time and genius writing about insignificant things when he can write about such an august being as himself?

    Narcissists are often callous and even ruthless. As the norm, they lack conscience. This is evident from Obama’s lack of interest in his own brother who lives on only one dollar per month.. A man who lives in luxury, who takes a private jet to vacation in Hawaii, and who raised nearly half a billion dollars for his campaign (something unprecedented in history) has no interest in the plight of his own brother. Why? Because, his brother cannot be used for his ascent to power. A narcissist cares for no one but himself.

    This election was like no other in the history of America . The issues were insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of conscience, a serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of the free world?

    I hate to sound alarmist, but one is a fool if one is not alarmed. Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to others. They are simply self serving and selfish. Obama evidences symptoms of pathological narcissism, which is different from the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a Richard Nixon or a Bill Clinton for example. To him reality and fantasy are intertwined.

    This is a mental health issue, not just a character flaw.
    Pathological narcissists are dangerous because they look normal and even intelligent. It is this disguise that makes them treacherous. Today the Democrats have placed all their hopes in Obama. But this man could put an end to their party. The great majority of blacks voted for Obama. Only a fool does not know that their support for him is racially driven. This is racism, pure and simple.

    The downside of this is that if Obama turns out to be the disaster I predict, he will cause widespread resentment among the whites. The blacks are unlikely to give up their support of their man. Cultic mentality is pernicious and unrelenting. They will dig their heads deeper in the sand and blame Obama’s detractors of racism. This will cause a backlash among the whites. The white supremacists will take advantage of the discontent and they will receive widespread support. I predict that in less than four years, racial tensions will increase to levels never seen since the turbulent 1960′s.

    Obama will set the clock back decades. America is the bastion of freedom. The peace of the world depends on the strength of America , and its weakness translates into the triumph of terrorism and victory of rogue nations.. It is no wonder that Ahmadinejad, Hugo Chavez, the Castrists, the Hezbollah, the Hamas, the lawyers of the Guantanamo terrorists, and virtually all sworn enemies of America are so thrilled by the prospect of their man in the White House.

    America is on the verge of destruction. There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological narcissist as president.

    • Karolyn

      All of the candidates are narcissists (as are most politicians) with the exception of Ron Paul

  • http://none Billy

    It has always been a 2 way race in the Republican party. The 2 choices were Ron Paul who is for our country and our constitution, and the other people who were dredged up by the Republican party (under the strong influence of the bankers pushing for a One World Government) to distract, and split the people in the party and hoping to convince you that there was someone else worth voting for.

    Without going into the things connecting all of the other candidates to a New World Order, it is now obvious to me that the leadership has been payed-off to remove the one choice who could defeat Kenya born Obama, and stop a One World Government.

    I believe the intent is to keep as many people as possible voting for the Republican selected member of the Party, and reduce the number of votes from the real solution “Ron Paul”,and to Re-elect this Fascist leader.

    They hope that the people who are out of jobs and getting money from the government, added to the people coming into the country illegally who are being allowed to not only stay, but being given money, will add up to enough total votes to Re-elect this Phoney (does not qualify under our constitution) president.

    If enough people follow and vote for Ron Paul they will try, by using these controlled computerized voting machines to adjust the count so Obama wins!

    To find what is next, and it may happen even before the election,
    google:
    “video Jesse Ventura – The Bilderberg Group (Conspiracy Theory, S1 Ep 5)”

  • george

    John,

    Let me get this straight, You have written off Texas Governor Rick Perry as a viable Republican Presidential candidate because he came to his debates one, two, three….unprepared. John, I don’t know why he participated in those early debates. If you had taken the time to read my post, I explained that it was a stupid, a doomed to failure thing to do. He announced his candidacy two weeks before his first debate. At the time of his announcement, he was governing a State of 24,000,000 people. I don’t give a damn, John, how long each participant had to prepare. Like I said on this blog, Romney had 6 years to prepare, Newt had 12 years, Huntsman and Santorum were also unemployed at the time.

    Don’t give me this uncalled for “lazy” smack talk aimed at a PROVEN ELEVEN YEAR DECIDEDLY CONSERVATIVE PATRIOTIC GOVERNOR of our wonderful properous state. It’s something a fool, and inept citizen of this country would dare submit on a blog read by a great number of people.

    No John, Governor Perry would make a great President. I believe Newt and Mr. Cain would get the job gone as well.

    You see, John, Mr. Perry and Mr. Cain do not belong to the DC Republican Establishment. Newt has been a colleague of the Establishment for an eternity, but he goes his own way. You won’t ever find me spreading crap or sarcasm about either of those fine men. Their lifetime achievements overide crap that comes out on the blogs and the media, just like it does for Governor Perry, who you obviously detest and dare to criticize his candidacy with ignorant, inapplicable posts. But you are not alone. There are millions of clueless sheep stuck on the media sound bites and drivel.

    Fight On !!! Hookem’ Horns !!!

    • Greatscott

      You mean the Governor who took away Farm land by the use of Eminent Domain for the Texas Trans_Corridor? The one who forced Gardasil on Teenage Girls and then 3 years later apologizes for his mistake after several girls died from this poisonous vaccination> the Governor who attended the 2007 Bilderberg Meeting in Venice?

      Yup, that’s what I call a real leader, one who meets in Secret helping to plan our demise.

  • Paul

    It does little good if Ron Paul is correct if nobody believes him or he is unable to convince enough people that his positions are valid enough to make a change. I would submit there are enough people, totally dissatisfied with the Republican leadership who would accept a leader with a sober, well thought out, well articulated position over the name calling and character assassination which the Republicans seem to excel at who would follow a leader with a vision. The name calling does little more than divide us when we need to be working together and marginalizes any message. If Ron Paul would calmly state his position and back it up with facts, (and there’s 50 years of facts that support his positions), he would do better.

  • Robert C Peters

    GREAT article Bob. Look @ ALL the responses! But I can’t be here all day, doing this! In response to Old Henry’s last post -OOOOH… I LIKE THAT! Maybe O.H. for pres! I can’t find it, there are so many replies, but did I see somebody say (I agree that international affairs ARE important)that it “was” – “is” one of the primary functions of THE CONSTITUTION – to meddle in the affairs of other countries? I have the CONSTITUTION here, can you find that for me? We don’t need to be “isolationist” -rather than “non-interventionist”. We would ALL get more respect from our neighbors, if we kept our nose out of their business. I will have to vote for Paul this time – in hope for REAL CHANGE.

  • Glen

    The only cure I can see to the Republican Party is the Conservative Party. If you haven’t explored it, go to the webpage. Just google conservative party America and you can read its platform. The primary goal this fall will be to beat Obama and the Conservative Party supports that goal by endorsing a Republican candidate. It doesn’t provide its own candidate (yet) for President but if it gets big enough, it probably will. Until then, the Conservative Party will help by influencing events and supporting the most conservative option to Obama.

  • WTH

    I “get it” now and I “got it” back in 2008 when I voted for Ron Paul and I am over 40 y/o. Another problem is that people have this strange desire to be able to say “I voted for the winner” instead of thinking for themselves. You probably know some of those people who say “don’t just throw your vote away.” By listening to that rhetoric, you are not listening to your conscience. Even though Ron Paul did not win the last election, I am proud to be able to say I voted for him. I, once again, will be voting for Ron Paul and… if he is not on the ballot in November, I will WRITE him in! This next election will either “make us” or “break us.” We NEED someone in office that has a REAL track record, that does NOT flip flop and is not a Republican In Name Only.

    P.S. If you are consuming GMOs, stop. Corn is the most genetically modified food product on the market and high fructose CORN syrup is in everything. Your brain will thank you for it.

  • Bob Marshall

    USSR, United States Socialist Republic. Closer to reality than most dare admit. “If we expect to be free and ignorant in a state of civilization, we expect what never was and will never will be… if we are to guard against ignorance and remain fee, it is the responsibility of every citizen to be informed.” Thomas Jefferson. “No people will tamely surrender their liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the contrary, when people are universally ignorant, and debauched in their manners, they will sink under their own weight without the aid of foreign invaders.” Samuel Adams.

  • Karolyn

    Lately, Rommney has been starting to look like a robot to me and very pasty – very unappealing.

    • Jay

      He’s as queer as a three-dollar-bill, and just as phoney!

      • 45caliber

        Jay:

        Romney is due to have his face put on a $3 bill – and Newt’s will be on the $6 bill. That proves that Newt is worth twice as much as Romney – and neither are worth a penny.

        • Jay

          LOL!!!

        • Blue Devil

          Go, 45caliber!!!!!

    • OB1

      I agree. Here’s a news flash:

      Passionate About President Paul

      Writes The Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza:

      In the wake of his second-place showing in the New Hampshire primary on Tuesday night, Texas Rep. Ron Paul declared: “We are dangerous to the status quo of this country”.

      He’s right…

      A look at exit polling from New Hampshire suggests that Paul has a significant — and steady — following that exists almost entirely apart from the Republican party and is, in many ways, based on a disgust with the GOP.

      Two numbers from the exit polls jump out.

      1) Almost seven in ten people who voted for Paul on Tuesday in New Hampshire said they would be “dissatisfied” if former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney was the Republican nominee.

      2) Fully 78 percent of Paul’s New Hampshire support came from those who are dissatisfied or angry with the Obama administration — not surprising given the low regard in which the current president is held by Republicans. But, consider this: 77 percent of Paul’s Granite State supporters in 2008 were similarly upset with the Bush administration. In fact, half of all Paul’s votes four years ago came from voters downright “angry” with Republican president.

      Combine those two data points with the fact that Paul’s vote total more than tripled between 2008 (18,308 votes) and 2012 (56,000 votes and counting) and it’s clear that the Texas Republican’s support is not only primed and ready to follow him wherever he leads but it is also growing…

      What creates Paul’s pied-piper appeal is not just consistency and authenticity. What really makes people follow Paul—whether they know it or not—is that he has a pretty empowering message: common sense prevails. If a guy who started out delivering babies can figure out what needs to be done to resolve the financial crisis, he seems to be saying, voters can too. He leads with explanations instead of orders, with straightforward logic instead of high-minded policy solutions.

      This faith in common sense is what anchors Paul’s leadership, and is what makes him patient and trusting that both the system—and the voters—will ultimately come around to his truth telling. It’s often said Paul’s popularity comes from the fact that his followers trust him. But perhaps more important, he makes them feel like he trusts them.

      Paul’s ability to inspire enthusiastic loyalty could help him were he to be elected president… if he were, such passion could help him pull together a galvanized team of staffers and motivated network of supporters lined up behind a common cause.

      • http://none R Paul or status quo

        OB1…great post, thank you for that. A little confidence can fuel positive things.

  • Tamarie Allard

    Wow Bob – absolutely on the mark & putting voice to my and my husband’s thoughts.

  • simian pete

    Ron Paul for President !?? HA HA HA ! When do you think that will happen ? Don’t get me wrong, Ron is best man running for the job !

    The Republican Party has a RIGHT to commit SUICIDE ! They gave us Ronald Reagan and the gipper sure helped in ending the Cold War. So I’m not to harsh towards them, just understanding ! They need psychological help…

    I guess the Democrats just wore out the GOP ! Look at what happen when Bush II ran against AlGore !! The Repubs had to call in the Supreme Court to win. That won’t happen again, Obama’s new appointments won’t let it happen ….

    Personally, all I want from the darn politicians is a vibrant manned Space Program !! I sure would like to see America landing on Mars first !! That would make me happy …

    All I see is the ruling classes pre-occupation with the Middle East. It’s religion that’s causing it. That’s why we invaded IRAQ. I’m not talking about the evangelicals or fundamentalist Christians love and support for Israel !! God Bless the Israeli Jews !!!

    The ruling elite want to rebuild “BABEL” – they want to rebuild Shinar and Babylon and it’s macabre occult one world religion and force this new religion on us all. Iraq, Iran and that whole area will become the center of a NEW WORLD ORDER. That’s where the new capitol of the WORLD will exist.

    Mankind at one time tried One World Government under Nimrod (the Apostate). That was at BABEL. Now the Power Elite are trying to do this again. We are witnessing the reduction and destruction of Islam. In a matter of generations Islam’s hold on this part of the world will be over. This will cause a religous vacum, and the macabre occultic religion of the One Worlders will take hold.

    I propose that the only way of resisting, effectively, this slide to Babel -is radical Space Colonization. If the United States is going to survive WE MUST BEGIN, NOW, an earnest and valiant effort to colonize SPACE ….

    Let freedon REIGN ! Colonize Space ! We went to the Moon. Let’s continue on Liberty’s story … By the grace of God, we will be successful!

    • Bill

      Yeah, and the establishment Republicans hated it when Ronald Reagan got in, but now they act like they were all for him at the time. Time for another Ron to upset their applecart.
      Go Ron Paul

  • Bett

    2002 predictions to put us on titanic, get us off, see clip
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJG_oFFDK0

  • Bert Nelson

    Hell yes! I’m 61 years old and I’m a proud Paulbot. Being a ‘bot’ means you think like a computer, with logic. And Ron Paul is the only logical choice for president.

  • gnafu

    The Tea Party is not dead as Reid would have us believe. There is hope and great hope. Dictator Obama will not win another four years in the White House. It doesn’t matter how many dance parties Obama has for campaign dollar grabbing. (I hope he personally pays the electric and water bill with his campaign money.)

    • OB1

      Senator Tom Davis endorses Ron Paul

      “It’s easy to campaign on lower taxes, less spending and fewer regulations – it’s another thing entirely to stand up for these limited government principles when the entire Washington establishment is aligned against you. Yet for more than three decades Ron Paul has cast thousands of lonely votes in our nation’s capital based on the constitutional principles that this country was founded on – and that the Republican Party has promised to protect. Yet while generations of politicians – including far too many Republicans – were losing their way or caving to the status quo, Ron Paul was standing as a Tea Party of one against a towering wave of red ink. Senator Tom Davis Great State of South Carolina

      Ron Paul 2012
      Sheep to slaughter 2012
      you choose

      • http://none R Paul or status quo

        OB1, I saw that endorsement today, sure as hell can’t hurt Ron Paul 2012

  • AJ

    Write in Ron Paul. Refuse to vote for Romney who is merely a NWO empty suit. The GOP can stick Romney up their elephant size A_ses.
    Vote RON PAUL 2012!

  • Carlo

    ****FOR ALL OF YOU WHO ARE STILL UNDECIDED****

    This Guy has been saying the same thing for 30 years! They laughed at him, called him crazy, but now people are starting to realize that he speaks the TRUTH.

    Watch these videos below:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM

    then

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5I0E75G8-g&sns=fb

    Scary how these predictions came true and is coming true. Is this guy the modern day Nostradamus? NO, he just knows what he’s talking about. Doesn’t it make sense to put a guy in office who actually knows what he’s supposed to do? Where does he get his influence?…. The Constitution! Where do the other candidates get their influence? Lobbyists, Special Interest Groups, Big Corporations, etc.

    Go figure…

    Time to wake up, open up our minds, and not let the MSM influence us. They are counting on all of us to act like “sheeple”.. Round em up and control everything we do.

    This is not what the Constitution intended for us!

  • http://none R Paul or status quo

    Bob Livingston, thanks for your insight. I’m fighting for Ron Paul as if my life depended on it because i believe it does. If I don’t go down fighting then my life will not be complete. If it’s true the elections are rigged and my efforts are in vain, so be it. I’m hoping for the best and preparing for the worst. At least I can be comfortable not voting for the lesser of two evils. Ron Paul 2012

  • http://gmail.com sancheleezy

    Thank God for intelligent, freedom-loving, and thinking citizens of this country. We can overcome the faux conservatives running in the Republican Party if we communicate Ron Paul’s true substance and appeal to the U.S. Constitution and our Republic. Vote Congressman Dr. Ron Paul in 2012. Spread the faith across the land!!

  • beacon

    MOSES said, let our people go.

    RON PAUL says, let our people go.

    Both had, have, the principles of truth.

    For, LIBERTY.

    RON PAUL, 2012.

    • beacon

      BOOTS on the ground boys, girls, you can do it.

      RON PAUL 2012.

  • Jay

    Most, if not all, Ron Paul detractors will compliment Dr.Paul on his economic policies, but scathingly criticize his foreign policies, accusing Dr.Paul of “Isolationism.” And this, in light of the fact that the history of American “Interventionism”, has not only put great stress on the country’s treasury, but multiplied, exponentially, dedicated enemies to the United States. Further, these same detractors of Dr.Paul, seem at a loss in comprehending the difference between “Isolationism”, and “Interventionism”. For those struggling with comprehending the obvious difference between the two, allow me to assist!

    Isolationism: A policy of remaining apart from the affairs or interests of other groups, esp. the political affairs of other countries.

    Interventionism: Favouring intervention, esp. by a government in its domestic economy or by one country in the affairs of another.

    For any here, who may have ties, or work in a particular capacity for the military-industrial-complex, please, feel free to forward this posting!

  • OB1

    Meanwhile, thousands of troops deployed to Israel without a peep from the mainstream media about it a week ago. Same thing occurred during the signing of the NDAA this New Year’s Eve. The media is all for profiteering and is KILLING this country. They are allowed into all of our homes under the disguise of family friendly TV, talking instead about Facebook’s new design rather than Obama once again lying to us and sending troops out to war yet again. WE ARE NOT STUPID, we have our voices, our sources (CotoReport is a good one), our own minds. WE WILL RESEARCH ourselves and not let our busy lives of coming home tired from work alter our opinions of what this media is doing to all of us. It was the media who assisted Obama in winning the Presidency, now look what he’s doing to us. The Stop Online Piracy Act is another attempt to control us, now limiting the sites we see and allowing the government to watch our searches even in the privacy of our homes. THE TRUTH is all over, if you can only do research about this and not allow the media to make up your minds for you. YOU ARE IMPORTANT and if we don’t fight them off we will never have unbiased news. The internet is powerful, now helping the surge for Ron Paul and his supporters. Even if you don’t believe in Paul’s direction, at least acknowledge that the media is out for only THEIR OWN interests. I may not know you, but I’ll be damned to see that you don’t have a voice.

    • Tom W.

      “And then I got into Memphis. And some began to say the threats, or talk about the threats that were out (Yeah), or what would happen to me from some of our sick white brothers.

      Well, I don’t know what will happen now; we’ve got some difficult days ahead. (Amen) But it really doesn’t matter to with me now, because I’ve been to the mountaintop. (Yeah) [Applause] And I don’t mind. [Applause continues] Like anybody, I would like to live a long life–longevity has its place. But I’m not concerned about that now. I just want to do God’s will. (Yeah) And He’s allowed me to go up to the mountain. (Go ahead) And I’ve looked over (Yes sir), and I’ve seen the Promised Land. (Go ahead) I may not get there with you. (Go ahead) But I want you to know tonight (Yes), that we, as a people, will get to the Promised Land. [Applause] (Go ahead, Go ahead) And so I’m happy tonight; I’m not worried about anything; I’m not fearing any man. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord.” [Applause] Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
      Wed. April,3rd 1968
      Delivererd at Bishop Charles Mason Temple.

    • Joe H.

      OB1,
      Thanks for mentioning that! I missed it! Looks like an end run on Iran!!

  • John Millican

    Interesting side note: George W. was backed by GOLDMAN-SACS. He gave the banks a huge “bailout” (can’t say amount because liars figure). Obama was backed by GOLDMAN-SACS. He gave the banks a huge “bailout”. (again liars figure.) One thing I can guarentee is that every dime will come from YOUR sweat & blood & TAXES. NOW we have Mitt Romney; guess who’s backing him?? YOU GOT IT IN ONE!!! GOLDMAN-SACS!! ARE WE GOING TO LET THE BANKERS GET CONTROL OF THE PRESIDENCY YET AGAIN?? ARE WE GOING TO GIVE THEM OUR CHILDREN’S HERITAGE, AND THEIR CHILDREN’S FREEDOM?? If you vote for Romney, Gengrich, Perry, or Santorum; THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WILL DO. And by-the-by; using simple LOGIC; if Ron Paul can not beat Obama in votes as the Republican nominee; then neither can Mitt Romney!! UNLESS… You slimeballs change sides and vote for “anyone but Paul”.

    • hitthedeck

      John you are a typical name calling liberal and you can not hide it. The word slime ball is a reflection of what you represent. Only a coward would use the word where no one could be close to punch you in your brown nose which is buried so far up Obama’s white butt that you are blinded by his cheeks.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear hitthedeck,

        John Millican speaks the truth. You can’t refute it, so you resort to ad hominems. It seems he called those who would rather see anyone but Ron Paul as president a slimeball. And you took offense? Telling.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

  • hitthedeck

    Sorry Bob, Jesus Christ isn’t running this year! Republicans have a pretty thick skins and it will take a hell of a big elephant gun to bring one down. It is the mouse’s that are more dangerous like the kind of mice that brought down Herman Cane. I think that most of the shooting will be over after South Carolina and things will settle to one nominee that must have everyone’s support to defeat Obama. The last man standing should tell the American that he will appoint all his running mates to a cabinet position or an office appointment to support the American people.

  • Linda

    I must add my two cents after reading this article. If the Republican Party does not back Ron Paul (the peoples choice) then the people know where they stand and must take a stand. The lies and the bickering brings out the best in the candidates, pay attention people! Let them argue, let them win at the so called poles (they never asked my pole)but vote for Ron Paul. He has never waivered from the Constitution, he has told the people up front what was to come and he has been right. With all the so called wealthy candidates running – I have not heard one say that he would take the same pay as the average American except Ron Paul. I am the Tea Party! I say follow the Constitution and the Law of the Land. Get rid of the useless codes, rules and regulations that kill our country and families.

  • Greatscott

    Finally, someone speaking the truth. Ron Paul or bust. Screw the Neo Conservatives and their wars.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    I just saw a good caption on the Fox News Channel screen. This is a good question to ask all the naive supporters of the RINO Mitt-nitwit Romney. Why would you want to nominate the guy (Romney) who lost to the guy (John McCain) who lost to Obama in 2008?? Of course we should ponder on that, and not nominate RINOs or nincompoops like Mitt-nitwit or Ron Paul. VOTE WISELY!!

  • Jay

    Propaganda minister of the third Reich, Joseph Goebbels once stated: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, FOR THE TRUTH IS THE MORTAL ENEMY OF THE LIE, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    Conversely then, if we trumpet the truth unceasingly, it may be that eventually, people will begin to hear it! If the truth be the mortal enemy of the lie, we should then most certainly affix our bayonets, and rent the lie asunder!
     

  • Tom W.

    The following is an exerp from the book, “MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. a life” by Marshall Frady
    Thursday April 4th, 1968. The Lorraine Motel – Memphis, TN
    Late that afternoon, then as King and Abernathy were preparing to leave with other SCLC staffers for a Southern soul food dinner at the home of Reverend Kyles before that evening’s mass meeting, Abernathy told him, “Wait a minute, I forgot to put on some aftershave lotion.” King stepped out onto the second-floor room’s walkway balcony in the soft, warm, spring dusk, still in his shirtsleeves and tucking in his shirttail, and began chatting with a loose and easy joviality with several aids clustered in the parking court below him. He leaned forward with both hands braced on the balcony railing and called down to a saxophonist and soloist, Ben Branch, whom Jackson had brought from Chicago to perform at that night’s meeting: “Ben, I want you to sing ‘Precious Lord’ for me tonight like you never sung it before. Want you to sing it real pretty.” King’s local driver then advised him that the evening air seemed turning cool and he should get his topcoat, and King, saying, “Okay, Jonesy,” was straightening up to turn back into his room when there racketed over the courtyard, like a startling slap against the calm of that spring twilight, a single loud shot.

    And thus ended the life of, in my humble opinion, one of the greatest men to ever walk the face of this earth. Dr. King would’ve been the first to tell you that he was by no means a perfect person, just a humble servant of his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He never asked to be GIVEN anything, only to be treated as an EQUAL and given a FAIR chance. Rest easy my brother.

    “Precious Lord”
    Precious Lord, take my hand,
    Lead me on, let me stand,
    I am tired, I am weak, I am worn;
    Through the storm, through the night,
    Lead me on to the light:

    Take my hand, precious Lord,
    Lead me home.

    When my way grows drear,
    Precious Lord, linger near,
    When my life is almost gone,
    Hear my cry, hear my call,
    Hold my hand, lest I fall:

    Take my hand,precious Lord,
    Lead me home.

    When the darkness appears,
    And the night draws near,
    And my days are past and gone,
    By the river I stand,
    Guide my feet,hold my hand:

    Take my hand, precious Lord,
    Lead me home.

    Take my hand, precious Lord,
    Lead me home. – Thomas A. Dorsey

    His favorite hymn.
    Good night everyone. Keep your eyes on the skies,
    Jesus is coming! He loves y’all and so do I!!!

  • Bill

    The sad truth is, the Republican party never really left the Whig party. They have always been the party of big government owned by big business. They only looked better when the Democrats turned to Marxism when the labor unions became powerful, but Republicans support welfare for the big corporations where the Democrats buy votes with welfare for the poor.

  • Bill

    Go Ron Paul

    • Red

      Why would you vote for another liberal? Isn’t one in the White House enough?

  • Jimbo

    Livingston has really nailed it with this article. We’re being fed a steady, relentless line of propaganda by the Republican political machine, and the news media. They’re all working hard to destroy our freedoms. Keep the country in a constant state of war and fear, and we won’t see how much our freedoms are eroded. Gun control, strip searches at the airport, a supreme court which has authorized government seizure of private property, Homeland Security’s eavesdropping on our phone and computer conversations, etc., etc. The latest thing is Progressive Insurance’s GPS tracking device. People are willingly agreeing to have their comings and goings monitored to save a few percent on premiums. It’s voluntary now. It will be manadatory soon.

    • Tom W.

      Bravo Jimbo, I totally agree with you as to the perilous times in which we live. I almost totally agree with Bob and think that yes he did nail it pretty good with what was the best article that I’ve read of his the short time that I’ve been recieving this newsletter. I have reservations concerning Ron Paul but agree that he might just well be the cream of this crup of candidates. Never before in the history of this great nation has our GOD GIVEN FREEDOMS been under such an attack by the forces that would strip us of these precioous truths, forces that exist in our own government! I believe that some of them consider themselves royalty and need to be taken down a notch of two!!! The blood of the men and women who have given all for these precious freedoms demand it! I don’t buy everything that Alex Jones is selling in this documentary, but to his credit, it will make you think! Again, excellent article Bob!!!
      http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Endgame%3a+Blueprint+for+Global+Enslavement&mid=B5BC2E0AEAFC24B0D464B5BC2E0AEAFC24B0D464&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1

  • BWPerk

    AOBO – ANYONE BUT OBAMA. The problem is that Ron Paul as right as he is about the Federal Reserve, Big Government and the Constitution, he is UNELECTABLE. I feel sorry for you if you do not understand this. I see faults in every candidate, but we must beat Obama or this country is TOAST. You are adding to the Circle Firing Squad. None of the candidates are perfect which includes Ron Paul.
    If Ron Paul is the Republican nominee, Obama is a shoo-in.
    If anyone runs as a third party, the incumbent will be reelected.
    Keep bashing all the candidates and you will see what I mean.

  • Steve Johnson

    While I enjoy reading Bob Livingstons’ commentaries and early on I thought a Republican candidate would be a shoe-in…… but after reading the responses in his last few articles, unfortunately I have little faith that any Republican could win the upcoming election. The last and the upcoming election presented the best opportunity for the Republican voter to regain power but due to a lack of leadership and overall cohesiveness, as illustrated in the above comments and the last election, coupled with a group of marginal at best electable candidates, I think the writing’s on the wall. After talking to a good friend that held a relatively high government position in the White House and Pentagon during the Bush years, my vote will be for Paul in the primary and who ever in the election. Scaling all the candidates, in my opinion, he is the most honest conservative, in a nutshell that tells me that he will do the right thing. Everybody else you have to travel a long road to follow the money. As far as the election goes, the Democrats have nothing to fight over, they have who they have, satisfied or not they will stand behind him and the independents will probably split or not vote at all. Where’s that leave us?

  • Camel

    I am a member of a pioneer family. We are the home of the free and the brave. Some of you are left if I am. We have a large percentage of children who are deaf and dumb, but we have more asking questions. Let’s give them the answer. We must put God first and lead His people to every political office in America from city to federal. We have politicians spending us in a hole both literally and socially and in all arenas. We need to wake up. Several people have said we need the Republican party. These are the same people who will not vote for who is vied as the winner. Than wake up! We need honest men outside the mainstream. Look at that and say media, the socialist propaganda machine. At least Stalin had to print out of basements. We have it flowing like sin…..

  • Jeff Coder

    I am a PCO for the republican party in Snohomish county in Washington state. Four years ago I was a delegate for Ron Paul at the republican state convention in Spokane. I saw first hand how evil the RINOs are when threatened with that pesky constitution. They prefer tyranny to freedom. Their minions are nothing other than dumbed down little sycophants! I really believed that the republican party could be changed from the inside. After the McCain debacle and now Commie Romney, I’m not so sure there is any hope for the republican party at all. If Romney gets the nomination I will quit the republican party and watch it die it’s well deserved slow death. They tell us we are free because we get to vote for our dictators! We get to chose between the Hammer party and the Sickle party. Chosing between fascism and socialism does not equal freedom. But there are so many people who are dummied down by government schools who would swear that we are living in a free country. These people have been slaves for so long that they have become accustomed to their chains and are deathly afraid of anyone who tries to remove their chains. They have become so dependent on their masters that they are afraid to think for themselves or rely on themselves. For them it is easier to be a slave than to be a freeman. Samuel Adams made a short and sweet speech on August 1st 1776, adressed to his fellow countrymen who wouldn’t get off the fence.

    “If ye love wealth more than liberty, if ye love the tranquillity of servitude more than the annimating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not of your counsil and your arms, croutch down and lick the hands that feed you, may your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget ye were our countrymen.”

    We have gone full circle. The mainstream republicans are the ones who love wealth more than liberty. The mainstream republicans are the ones who love the tranquillity of servitude (slavery) more than the annimating contest of freedom. If you read the Declaration Of Independence you can easily put the grievances against the king into present day context. This country is at a cross roads, no it’s actually standing on the edge of a cliff and wobbling while desparatley trying to keep it’s balance. Ron Paul will pull us back from the edge and possibly return our country to the constitutional republic it is supposed to be. Mitt Romney will have us step across the edge of the cliff and fall into the abyss of despotism.

    Jeff Coder, Pissed Off Republican PCO!
    President, Washington State Sons Of Liberty Riders
    http://www.sonsoflibertyriders.com

    • Steve Johnson

      To Jeff & Camel…I Got up this morning with a bad attitude, well at least a negative maybe even hopeless attitude, until I read the last two posts after mine. I’m glad to see that there are some that see what’s going on behind the scenes. It’s very rare that the director of a script actually shows up on the giant silver screen, he’s in the background making sure that every action, every word said, every prop built….everything…goes as planned. Unless you really pay attention, not getting caught up in the drama, you probably would never care who wrote or directed the film. The star is the leading man or woman. They are the ones that are talked about, get the awards, are paid well. Who sparked your emotions? Who do you idolize? Who would you like to rub elbows with? Guess who are the real winners. Dig deep and then keep on digging. Go past the actors, the props, the director, the writer, even go past the Warner Bros. or Disney or the even the people that run those companies. When you get to the investors your really close. Take a closer look at history, recent history. Who lost the most when the stock market crashed, who gained the most? You have three choices, the rich, the middle and the poor. If you come to the same conclusion as I have you wouldn’t be arguing between yourselves. If you came to the same conclusion, you would look past all of the distraction and allusions, uniting with the common goal of taking the power from the few and giving it back to the many. It’s not as hard as it seems. The tea party came close but is loosing its way, kind of like the Republican party has.
      Thanks Jeff and Camel, you gave me back some inspiration.

  • Janice Fortin

    Bob Livingston: “Good riddance to the Republican Party”????? Then I take you are incredibly impressed with the hoola hooping, jumping jack capability of the (what a scandal to even mutter it) first “lady” and her never proud, but forever mooching from, America and the spouse who apologizes for USA and pays $2 MILLION to hide …..do you know, Bob? would like to hear those secrets. So that’s where you are throwing your vote…..with the “God Damn America”crowd? I won’t be reading you again.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Janice Fortin,

      You write: “So that’s where you are throwing your vote…..with the “God Damn America”crowd? I won’t be reading you again.” If you believe this, then you obviously have never read anything I’ve ever written. Unlike you, I am not beholden to party. Party politics, where politicians and propagandists (like Bill Kristol) put party before country and Constitution, is what has gotten us to this point. My loyalty is to country and Constitution, not someone simply because he or she has an R or a D to the right of his or her name. I say good riddance because the Party is a corrupt cesspool that is duping millions to follow blindly, like you must do.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Steve Johnson

        Bob, I don’t think you need to defend yourself, be the leader that you are. Talk the truth, stay on the offense, there’s time, let the army grow and they will cover the flanks.

  • pasoman

    We’re missing the point! Has anyone noticed how many independently owned businesses, from retail to healthcare, simply disappeared over the past twenty years? The few carbon copy names that remain across the land are entities owned by holding companies, which are managed by investment fund operators within trade network organizations within interlocking directorships that use “super-pack” funding to “buy” government officials – both parties alike! Global monopolists freely loot the USA because government restricts supply by denying free use of resources, energy, and technology, while moving production infrastructure outside national borders! Government simultaneously floods the nation with illegal alien invaders and immigrants by passing out hundreds of billions in benefits paid for by citizens… to spike demand in a paralyzed nation that cannot sustain itself! Let’s call them the global monopolists that run the republican party.

    The other half consists of communist and dictatorial nations that own and monopolize people. People who answer to government are never “jobless” because their master controls their activity and thoughts, and the rewards are loyalty and devotion to the master, not God or family!

    That brings us to the ultimate conspiracy against freedom – China and other like minded tyrants in bed with global monopolists. Monopolists move USA productive infrastructure complete with free financing, at US taxpayer/citizen expense to China… China provides the workers, protection, and US products to monopolists, tax free and competition free… Of course, the moles within US government are not subject to insider trading, anti-trust laws (they’re ignored), or scorn because monopolists are in charge of resources, communications, and finance.

    End US result – hopeless debt, tyranny, and bondage to a “global monopoly” essentially run by China and global monopolists who answer to no one!

    Free money? Run a 588 monthly annuity deposit of $510 ($40K annual & 115.3%SSI age 18-68) and try to reconcile the $1.3 million future value with an absolutely bankrupt SSIMED trust fund that is paying current retiree benefits with current worker “investments” and money borrowed from China. Your retirement was systematically looted by using inflation… to devalue your investment, paying interest to borrow money, earning no interest because the capital was looted… etc., etc., etc. Zero FED rates guarantee all pensions will fail – ever hear of “unfunded debt”?

    We need pit bulls in the house and senate – people who will prosecute and hold some to treason,,, beginning with Holder! The old RHINO’s are corrupted and hide behind silent acquiescence to get their part of the looting accomplished. The TEA party has the answer. Dump the Rhinos and make sure libertarians have an independent out there, if the TEA party can’t get it done! The presidency is lost, but the legislature can burn the rats out of their nest!

    The enemy is a coalition of global monopolists and communists who are inches away from the ultimate power to control wealth and humanity! Our illusions of ugly vultures waiting to clean the carcass of failed businesses doesn’t begin to describe twenty plus years of looting America’s productive and wealth infrastructure by both political parties.

    • danN

      Yes! Now if that is’nt a wak-up call!

  • pasoman

    note – the $1.3 million future value is based on 15.3%SSIMED plus a 5%ROI (compound interest)

  • danN

    Wow! a lot of dribble about the existing problem in Washington Vs. the next Problem in Washington. A lot of noise about low life Americans being taken care of by other low life Americans. Divide and Conquer!
    Let’s see…Members of Congress and the Senate all are making at least 6 figures! Where do they get their $ from? how are they different than those on the welfare system…I could tell you but I think you all know the answer and where I am going with this. Who, of those in office or running for office has stated that they will take less than the 6 figures of salary? I know of only one! Keep in mind, most of these office holders are already financially stable ($1 mil + in the bank). So I ask all you Party dedicated voters, which one of your hopefulls is willing to walk the walk? There is only one that I have been following that seems genuine.

  • Dave Bishop

    I have yet to understand the frothing of the mouth of those supporting Ron Paul. His type of “freedom” may be sweet in one’s thoughts, but freedom is far from supporting the legalization of pot, homosexual “marriage,” and strength at/on our porous borders. I have yet to hear where he stands on defense, weapons development, and who else he would include on the free pass list of immigrants (i.e., foreign nationals illegally coming across our borders). The sad part is that there is one man I would like to see in the race. He has what the others seem to lack: honesty and integrity. But Bobby Jindle of Louisiana will not be there. Mores the pity.

    • Red

      Is he ‘native born’?

    • jbird

      Dave Bishop,

      If you haven’t heard where he stands on these issues it’s because you haven’t listened. There have been at least 15 debates. Go here and you can read it: http://www.ronpaul2012.com/ Open your mind, because your post indicates you have no clue what you’re talking about.

    • Joe H.

      Dave Bishop,
      By any chance did you go to Adrian College???

  • Joe Joe

    I swear to god, if they insist on Romney, and there’s no viable third party choice, I’ll vote Obama! Luckily, I’m pretty sure Ron Paul will run third party if these sold-out turds insist on Romney. This can be the beginning of getting our country back if everyone would just wake up, do your OWN homework, and look into just what Ron Paul stands for. He stands for the very things that all FREEDOM loving people do. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! We will not get another chance! Ron Paul has scared them enough that they WILL get their tyranny (police state)implemented by 2016. The Elite puppet masters will not risk having their agenda compromised again. If we let our children down, we deserve whatever comes our way. This isn’t about party affiliation or minor differences, this is SURVIVAL.

  • maxntx

    I was on the fence with the repub candidates, UNTIL I heard a 3 HOUR Commercial for Romney on Sean Hannity last week. All I could thing of is WOW! They’ve already picked they’re nominee and have gotten to Sean. I’m personally sick of the republicans and will probably change party affiliations after our primary in March.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Last night (1/17/12), the Great One Mark Levin talked about Ron Paul’s phony positions and lies; including the execution of the (supposedly unarmed) Osama Bin Laden. Mark said he’d vote for Romney over the ‘crackpot’ Ron Paul. ‘Crack-Pot’ is probably a good name for this nincompoop who favors legalization of such detrimental substances!! I have to agree with Mark, as we may agree with Libertarians on some issues. But as we know, the Libertarian Party is overall too laisse-faire on too many issues. And as Mark suggested, Ron Paul may be even more liberal than Obama on foreign policy. All of you naive Ron Paul supporters need to wake up!!!!! You must agree that anyone worse than BHO needs to be defeated. This fool Paul is NOT a conservative. In fact, he badmouths conservatives. We see he flip-flops on important issues as well. This crackpot should also be defeated in Congressional primaries. He’s not even worthy to serve in Congress, much less as POTUS!!!!! …..FORGET ABOUT RON PAUL!!!!

  • nowhereman

    “Republicans Form A Circular Firing Squad”?!

    Have you looked at the blue dogs lately, or ever? Have you looked at any dems lately, or ever?

  • gatortommy

    When I was in my thirty’s, interest rates were like 12%. You could make money on the interest rates on your saving accounts!!!!!!! Now we have the fed, we are screwed!! Banks regulating Banks, nothing bad could happen there!! People wake up, it does not matter if you vote rep or dem. Same stuff!! One is for big govt, welfare, the other big govt, rich peoplr. Notice the middle class left out. We get to pay for stupid!!! VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!! HE WILL TRY TO CHANGE THINGS!!!!!!!! PROBABLY WON’T, BUT IT WILL BE FUN TO WATCH HIM TRY. WE ARE DOOMED!!!!!!!!!

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    I agree with those who say our most important goal this year is to correct the ‘One Big Awful Mistake America’ by voters back on 11/4/2008. Yes, Republicans are attacking each other. But this is the time to do it – in the primaries; in order to choose the best candidate to challenge BHO. After the nominee is chosen is the time to get behind whomever the GOP nominee is – and campaign against Obama. Remember that we still have over 9 months to go before the November election.

    If (God forbid) Obama gets re-elected, there are 2 reasons for this. First, it will be because we failed to nominate the right candidate to challenge him. It will be like 1976, 1996 and 2008 all over again, in which the GOP nominated the unelectable candidates Gerald Ford, Bob Dole and John McCain, respectively, all of whom lost to their democrap opponents. Why can’t the GOP learn from these past mistakes instead of repeating them over and over again?? And now we see a RINO named Romney who, if elected, will probably prove to be not much better than BHO. In fact, many people say that Romney will NOT repeal Obamacare, but perhaps modify it. Thus he will only get one term. Likewise, many of you naive people seem to favor Ron Paul, who is a George McGovern on foreign policy; perhaps even worse than Obama. Anybody who’s worse than BHO must be defeated, and should concede the race for POTUS now!! Can you imagine this fool debating BHO on foreign policy?? I bet BHO could beat Ron Paul without a teleprompter!!

    Second, the problem is a large % of the voters don’t want to vote for the lesser of 2 evils, so they’ll either vote democrap or not vote at all. If you’re one of those voters, you need to be wary. YES, we do get frustrated with RINOs and moderate GOP wimps. But if you think today’s leftwing democraps will correct the GOP’s errors and govern more conservatively than the GOP, you probably believe in the tooth fairy!! GET REAL!! Many of us reluctantly voted for John McCain in 2008, mostly as a vote against the ‘One Big Awful Mistake America’. Although a poor choice for nominee, let’s realize McCain would’ve been a better POTUS in various ways. E.g., if I’m not mistaken, he did oppose Obamacare as well as the failed $800+ billion stimulus/porkulus bill. Thus there’d be no need to repeal Obamacare because it never would’ve passed in the first place. As for the latter, if porkulus were omitted from baselines, future FY budget deficits would be cut in half. Perhaps the best thing about a McCain victory in 2008 would’ve been Sarah Palin as Veep. Assuming McCain only served one term, Sarah would’ve enhanced her resume and perhaps could’ve been elected POTUS this year. As for this year, with Herman Cain and Michelle Bachmann out of the race, I deem Santorum to be the next best choice, followed by Gingrich. But, even if worse comes to worst and the GOP nominates one of the 2 lemons (Paul or Romney – both of whom are worse than McCain), let’s hope it’ll at least make a better choice for VP.

  • Buck

    I am a life long republican fed up with the republican agenda for power instead of the agenda of running our constitutional republic . Therefore if ROMNEY gets the nomination I will vote for OBAMASS . If I have to see the republic fall I would rather see it fall under a demon rat than a republican , (even a Rhino) .

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