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Representative Steve King (R-Iowa) Talks With Robert Ringer

September 9, 2010 by  

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Representative Steve King (R-Iowa)Representative Steve King (R-Iowa) is a Constitutional conservative and advocate of the Tea Party. Robert Ringer recently interviewed King as part of his Liberty Education Series. In the interview King talks about President Barack Obama’s economic philosophy and his (Obama’s) lack of respect for entrepreneurs and small business owners, and King’s efforts on the small business committee to try and reign in the over-regulation of the government. King believes the Administration wants to nationalize Fortune 500 companies. King says there is a small but good core of Constitutionalists in the Congress now, but believes a new wave will come in with the November elections. The interview is about 15 and a half minutes long. Click above to listen to the entire interview.

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  • DaveH

    Don’t hold your breath for any great strides to Freedom with this guy. He voted Yea for H.R. 4061, the Cybersecurity Act which gives the Federal Government great regulatory power over the Internet. Somehow in the 10 years that I’ve been using the Internet, I’ve missed all the grave dangers that the Feds want to protect us from with their vast regulatory powers.
    As usual, we have here a Big Government wolf masquerading as a Freedom Loving Lamb.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      DaveH
      thanks for the heads up! I will check this guy out a little closer!

      • Bruce D.

        This is something floating around that is interesting. If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great indicator.

        If a conservative doesn’t like guns, he doesn`t buy one.
        If a liberal doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

        If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
        If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

        If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
        If a liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

        If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
        A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

        If a conservative doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels.
        Liberals demand that those they don’t like be shut down.

        If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church.
        A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced. (Unless it’s a foreign religion, of course!)

        If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
        A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

        • Warrior

          You are SOOOOO Right!

          • http://naver samurai

            I second that motion!

        • DaveH

          Very Good, Bruce.

        • dan az

          Bruce D
          thants right on.I think it could be the leirics of a country song!

        • Jim B.

          Bruce D. You are so right on! This has been going on forever, it seems. Conservative leave others alone until they are attacked. Liberals attack whatever they don’t like.

      • http://naver samurai

        Believe half of that you see and none of that you hear.

    • Claire

      DaveH– Thank you! You are exactly right (no pun intended) in what you have posted. This guy is someone to watch out for. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing–I never trusted him.

    • Dick Gazinia

      another truth twister to further his own agenda… get re-elected anyway possible. He would support Al gore if he thought it would get him votes.

  • dan az

    See thats why I like it here people with facts thanks dave!

  • JIM FITz

    did he vote for h.r. 6041????????

  • Doug

    H.R.4061 wasn’t all bad, it protects children from people that lay in wait for ‘children’…to do them harm, and since we that use the network don’t police our own…then we opened the door for Government to step up to the plate. That said; I don’t like it when Government gets’ involved in our lives. But when do we as Americans take responsibility for what is happening in our country? It is good that we have open debate about a person running for office…before we get to the polls….not enough Americans take the time to know who they are voting for..if they had we wouldn’t have this mess we have now in Washington!

    • http://beliefnet.com/debrincon Debra Rincon Lopez

      I believe we know exactly what were doing, we Voted for who we wanted. Nobody’s in their by mistake. WE voted for this President, and we should stand by him. this wasn’t NOT a MISTAKE. So people need to start backing what he says and does. Stop making things worse by thinking they know whats best for the Govt. NOBODY does otherwise it wouldn’t be the way that it is now. If BUSH didn’t get us into all this mess, we wouldn’t be struggling now! Wasting all that money in IRAQ, what a waste of lives and billions of dollar. Too many people seem to forget Obama didn’t make these problems. He got left with them, he’s been trying to FIX them as best as he could!!!

      • Fred

        The page you requested is no longer on Beliefnet.com—this could be due to a mistyped URL or broken link….Miss Lopez you are no longer on Beliefnet…..YOu must have drank to much Obama Cool Aid.Blind support such as yours leads to strange thoughts such a you show occuring.Political Pack Mules like yourself are cast aside to quieter pastures when they have done the dirtly work of their Leader.Blind Faith can be very upsetting when the Blinders are removed.How sad you have wasted your thoughts with blind obedience to a Failed Leader.So often is the case with aggressive Followers as they get wrapped up in the Lies of their Leader and no longer use Common Sense or their own reasoning powers.How sad.

        • Judy

          Applause!

      • Stuart

        Debra: It’s obvious that you don’t know what you’re talking about. And since I just retired from teaching English in a high school with about 100% Hispanic students, I would say judging from the mistakes in your writing that you have moved here from somewhere south of the border. You need to realize that this is the United States, and that the people do not work for the politicians — the politicians work for us, but too many of them think they are a privileged class, including Obama, who is a Marxist and wants to socialize our country. He is NOT “helping all small business people in his plans” as you claim. Just the opposite. I hope you wake up to the truth before his majesty and all his cronies destroy this country.

        • CONSERVATIVE AT BIRTH

          She will never wake up, she is an ostrich.

        • Kinetic1

          Stuart,
          You were an English teacher? Were you licensed to teach, or did you just decide you were qualified? From the errors I found in YOUR post, I would guess it was the latter.

          As for Debra’s post, she’s not completely wrong. Anyone who would challenge the assertion that the Bush administration screwed up is ignoring recent history. You can claim that it was all the fault of the Democrat lead Congress, but that would require that you ignore Bush’s insistence that we keep the cost of war off the books, that we bring in Halliburton and Blackwater at a cost far exceeding anything our military might have spent (and with less than acceptable results) and that the Republican congress force two tax cuts through despite a growing deficit (don’t forget, they used reconciliation!) Obama has made some mistakes, but you can’t expect an economy as bad as that which Bush created to turn around in just 18 months.

          • Jim B.

            Hold on there a minute. Bush certainly made mistakes, but his administration was doing many right hings as well until Congress changed over to a Democrat-led farce. Then all his plans and programs were killed in committee and voted down. It was Congress, not Bush, who made this mess. This is the same Congress that is in there now trying to “fix” it, as you say by adding on more idiotic legislation on top of the rest of the pile of crap they have piled up.

      • az wayne

        Is there any hope for you? You haven’t recognized this socialist in his 2 years of attempting to destroy America? He is on schedule to be tried for treason. He needs to be forced to give back what he has stolen from taxpayers and funneled to Kenya, Muslim brothers, Union thugs, Acorn, and all socialist czars. You haven’t learned the difference between good and EVIL.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Debra… Sweetie… ACORN had a lot to do with who is in office. And you can bet that people voted alright, some more than once! Obama is not the person you lust for. He can’t walk on water, and what’s worse he can’t lead! He is all talk! He will go down as the worse president in our history. I cannot support a president that I don’t even know if he meets the qualifications to be the president. What is he hiding, Deb?
        Do you really believe he cares for the ‘little guy’? I’ll bet I could get by with groceries for a year on what Michele spends on shoes! They are elitist! Honey… You are so taken with all this. He is not a rock star. There is only person that deserves that kind of loyalty and devotion and He died on a cross for all of us!

        • valerie

          WELL SAID ROBIN. November is coming and not all of them can hide. I pray God is with us.

      • DaveH

        Well, Debra was right about one thing: “this [Obama] wasn’t NOT a MISTAKE”. Gotta watch those double negatives, Debra.

      • http://comcast crisaf

        I think it shows how there is such a lack about how the government works. First, Bush didn’t get us into this mess all by himself. One of the biggest causes lands in the lap of Barney Frank who was the head of the finance committee who was asked by Bush in 2001 to check how AIG, Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac were doing. His answer was All IS WELL. Again in 2006, same answer. In 2007, Congress came under control of Democrats so they were at the helm for the last two years of Bush’s term. Do you ever hear anything about this. They played a roll in the events that took place for the last two years of Bush’s rein.

        Secondly, the Republicans did not have the numbers that he democrats now have in both houses so it was easier to pass all legislation now without any consent from their constituents which the democrats have done, Obamacare and massive regulations.

        • Kinetic1

          “Secondly, the Republicans did not have the numbers that he democrats now have in both houses so it was easier to pass all legislation now without any consent from their constituents which the democrats have done”

          Ok, crisaf, I’m going to assume that your intention here is to suggest that the Republicans did not have the same majority under President Bush that the Democrats had when President Obama took office. It’s a fairly tired argument, but one that keeps coming back, so let’s take a look.

          The Republicans had complete control of the congress from 1995 (the 204th) through 2001 (the 206th). No, the numbers weren’t what the Dems had in 2008, but they had control. The 207th was theirs as well, until one Republican went independent, but then along came the 208th congress in 2003 and all was Golden for Bush. The big difference between the Republicans and the Democrats became clear: the Republicans will stick together. Bill after bill flew to the president’s desk without the support of the Dems because the Republicans voted as a solid block. Compare that to Obama’s first year and you can see that if the Blue Dogs had voted with their leadership, much stronger Healthcare reform would have been voted on and passed in the first 6 months. The failure of the Dems comes not just from mistaken ideals, as you would profess, but from having to satisfy the Blue Dogs and trying to satisfy the Republicans. A “solid” majority is nothing if all members don’t vote together.

          Back to the Republicans. What did they do with 20 years of Congressional control? They passed what they wanted and by September of 2004 the federal budget (over $2 trillion) and the federal deficit (over $500 billion) grew to the highest levels ever and kept growing along with the national debt (over $7 trillion and increasing an average of $2 billion per day.) Two wars were started (one justified, the other not.) and Bush proclaimed himself “a War President”. He was so proud. Since then, thousands of Americans have died on foreign, our national reputation has been drug through the mud, and Americans have even less liberty now than they had before.

          20 years of control, all but 8 of which included the White house and look what it got us.

          • eyeswideopen

            Oh my goodness, someone who wants to use facts. How refreshing is that?? You cannot get a repub to admit that they had any responsibility for any of this country’s problems. Nice response, keep putting the facts out there, maybe an independant will take notice and vote for the middle class instead of the corporations.

          • Russ G

            Yes,I to love when someone puts facts on here. But the right facts would be more helpful for your arguement. “Idiot”,

          • Roy A. Shipman

            Kinetic1,
            What twenty years of Republican control of Congress. The controlling party elects the Speaker of the House and you only have to look at the below list of Speakers since 1955 to see that the Democrat Party has held the most seats in the House for a long time.

            52 Sam Rayburn for the 84th, 85th, and 86th Congress from 1955 to 1961
            53 John McCormack for the 87th, 88th, 90th, 91st Congress from 1962 to 1969
            54 Carl Albert for the 92nd, 93rd, 94th Congress from 1971 to 1975
            55 Tip O’Neil for the 95th, 96th, 97th, 98th, 99th Congress from 1972 to 1985
            56 Jim Wright for the 100th and 101st Congress from 1986 to 1990
            57 Tom Foley for the 102nd and 103rd Congress from 1991 to 1994
            58 Newt Gingrich for the 104th and 105th Congress from 1995 to 1998
            59 Dennis Hastert for the 106th, 107, 108th and 109th from 1999 to 2006
            Nancy Pelosi for the 110th and 111th Congress from 2007 to 2010 today

            All but Gingrich and Hastert were Democrats. So the real control of the House of Representatives has been in control of the Democrat Party most of the time since the 77th Congress was first under Sam Rayburn who was Speaker for 17 years. Tip O’Neil was Speaker for 9 years and 350 days, John McCormack was Speaker for 8 years and 344 days, Carl Albert was Speaker for 5 years and 337 days, and Tom Foley was Speaker for 5 years and 209 days. The Republicans held the leadership in the House for a little over ten years.

          • Kinetic1

            I apologize. I wrote 20 and meant 10. If you look at the dates I opened with you can see I was talking about ’95 on, so the error is clear. Reviewing the information, however I should revise that to 12 years with both the House and Senate and a divided Senate for 2 .
            Here are the numbers.
            104th (’95-’97) S. 52(R) 48(D) H. 230(R) 204(D) Clinton
            105th (’97-’99) S. 55(R) 45(D) H. 226(R) 207(D) Clinton
            106th (’99-’01) S. 55(R) 45(D) H. 223(R) 211(D) Clinton
            107th (’01-’03) S. 50(R) 50(D) H. 221(R) 212(D) Bush (Cheaney becomes tie breaker)
            108th (’03-’05) S. 51(R) 48(D) H. 229(R) 205(D) Bush
            109th (’05-’07) S. 55(R) 44(D) H. 231(R) 202(D) Bush
            110th (’07-’09) S. 49(R) 49(D) H. 198(R) 223(D) Bush

            The point remains, Republicans held both houses for over a decade and here we are. Many of you jump on the Dems for the failures of Bush’s last two years, but history shows that, while the decline of middle class income has been going on since the Reagan era, it accelerated sharply during the time the Republicans held both houses. Bush’s Amazing job growth? That peaked in ’95 and it was noting to crow about. How about economic growth by percentage of GDP? Well the Republicans did well with Clinton at the helm, but when Bush stepped in it all fell apart. Worse than Carter, as a matter of fact. I know, I know 9/11 hit us hard, but you can’t blame everything on 9/11. Two wasteful wars didn’t help either.

            So I’ve looked at chart after chart, graph after graph and no matter how you look at it the neither the Democrats or the Republicans brought about the second coming when they were in charge. The Republicans did pretty well under Clinton, but as you all like to point out Clinton came in during a period of growth. Funny thing about that, Bush 1 came in during a sharp down turn, but his Democratic House and Senate turned that around to Give Clinton that great economy. Of course it could have just been luck. The economy has always had it’s peaks and valleys and both parties have been in charge for good and bad. The Dems had both houses and lowered the deficit under Nixon, Ford and Carter, but with Reps in the Senate and Dems in the house they increased it under Reagan. Reps held both houses under Clinton and the debt went down, but it went right back up when Bush came in. So does either one have anything but luck on their side?

      • John

        I am sorry to disappoint you. Your vote for Obama DID NOT count. The President of the United States is voted in by the electoral votes. All a person can hope for is that the electorate votes their way.

      • ChuckL

        Debra, You need to check your sources more accurately. Obama has spent more in one bill than Geo. Bush spent in both Iraq and Afghanistan in total since Sept. 11, 2001.

        Then it would possibly enlighten you if you obtained a valid copy of the Constitution of the United States and of the Federalist Papers which explained the purposes of the Constitution to the voters of the colonies so that they could support it or oppose it knowledgeably.

        Much of what has been passed by the Congress since Woodrow Wilson has been unauthorized by the Constitution, which you should have learned in school, is a partial list of the rights of the citizens and a complete list of the permissions granted to the Federal Government. The Federal Government has only one duty assigned by the Constitution. That duty is the defense of this country.

        Your hero, Obama, has done what he can to weaken this country’s defenses. He has scheduled that the last of our F-22 fighters will be built in 2011. The F-22 is the only fighter that we have which cn reliably defeat the current front line fighters of Russia and China, both of whom will readily sell these fighters to their allies. The F-22 supercruises at over Mach 1.5, that is 1.5 times the speed of sound, has a top speed of over Mach 2.3 and carries 8 air to air missiles. The first airplane that was capable of supercruise was built in the 1950′s. It was the F-106. It was capable of just over 900 MPH, about Mach 1.25 without afterburner and set the records for single engined aircraft of Mach 2.31.

        The replacement that Obama has agreed to let us build for our defense is the F-35. It requires afterburner to exceed the speed of sound and has a top speed with afterburner of only Mach 1.6.It carries only 4 air to air missiles and while claimed to be stealthy, has a radar signature that is larger than that of the F-22 by a factor of 10 or greater, depending on the angle from which the radar is active. The flyaway price of the F-35 is now close to 92% of the cost of an F-22, but the F-35 provides only about 35% of the security.

        He has cut the capability of the U. S. Navy as badly by limiting the capability of the new ships that the Navy wishes to buy.

        He has regularly berated police and other law enforcement agencies for enforcing the law while requiring his Attorney General to drop the charges against convicted criminals before the sentence was passed.

        If your mind is as closed as one of my high school classmates, you will dismiss this information as “Right Wing Bullshit”. if you are open to facts, you can verify my claims yourself. that way you may understand what BHO is really doing.

        • eyeswideopen

          Chuckl, did you miss all those statements from our military,that they don’t want that plane?? Which aerospace company do you work for??LOL

      • marvin

        are you here illegally or just plain stuped

      • Jim Wright

        Maybe you voted for this lying socialist America hating POC, but I didn’t. I respect the office but not the POC in it. I don’t care what color he is, Mr. Obama is a liar and I do not believe he is eligible for his office. He proves it every time he spend more money to hde his background.

      • http://naver samurai

        Bush, baaaaa! Iraq, baaaaa! Chaaaaange! Bush isn’t the potus, Obama bin Laden is the potus. He’s the leader and is responsible for everything since Jan 2009! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Joel

        Debra, In comment to your opinion about our “great president” are you going to say the things you just did once he is done raping our country. Look at all the homeless families he has created already. He talks about helping our country! Our crime rate has increased, people have resorted to steeling to support their families. So you tell me how great he is.

    • Bruce D.

      A leftest can always come up to new laws that are suppose to help us but those on the right do not want a Fascist State. There are more than enough laws on the books now to punish people who cause harm. Problems stem from lack of enforcement as with our southern border. Adding more laws only empowers government. They do little to protect people. Another case in point is Wall Street. President Obama’s lack of oversight led to SEC employers watching porno for most of the day. No one was even fired. If they had a hundred more laws it wouldn’t have helped if people are going to be watching porno instead of doing their job. The left want more laws so they can be selectively enforced by those who oppose them. What Obama wouldn’t give to have a law on the books that would allow him to shut Fox News down. He certainly tried.

      • Kinetic1

        Bruce D.
        Over and over, people on this site claim that the Libs blame Bush for everything, then you turn around and pull this one out of your …hat. Granted, Obama’s administration did not catch these SEC workers in their first year, but it was the Obama administration that caught this and they HAVE disciplined some of the employees while others WERE dismissed. That’s not even the most important correction of your claims. No, what really matters is the fact that This has been going on for 5 YEARS! These accusations and findings go back to the BUSH YEARS!!

        “During the past five years, the SEC OIG (Office of Inspector General) substantiated that 33 SEC employees and or contractors violated Commission rules and policies, as well as the government-wide Standards of Ethical Conduct, by viewing pornographic, sexually explicit or sexually suggestive images using government computer resources and official time,” said a summary of the investigation by the inspector general’s office.” CNN, April 23, 2010

        Your right, we have lots of laws that are not being enforced, but it didn’t just start in the last 2 years.

        • Bruce D.

          I think you are missing the big picture. “The more numerous the laws the more corupt the government.” Tacitus 100 AD Okay we got rid of Bush. Now it is time to get rid of Obama. His policies will lead us into a totalitarian state. He has already passed laws forcing people to buy healthcare against their will. He is trying to use the UN against AZ, essentially to force control over the American people. Now he is using Hillary and the UN in a move to override our Constitution and the right to bear arms. He might just as well declare war on America except for the fact he is cunning and works in the area of subterfuge trying to recruit minions who will vote for him.

    • Peter Vanderveen

      You are wrong on the point of “if Americans only know who they were voting for things would be different in Washington.” Americans do know who they are voting for and they do it because they are a bunch of crooks themselves. Anyone who is collecting a check from the government should not be allowed to vote. It’s a conflict of interest. That includes any government employees, welfare recipients, social security recipients etc. These kind of people are looking out for the next handout, that’s how we got obama and what a disaster that is.

      • ValDM

        Peter,
        I hardly think that drawing SS is enough to disqualify me from voting. I paid into the system……BY FORCE. I should be able to withdraw my investment.

      • http://PersonalLiberty JLS

        Peter

        Amen!!

        • DaveH

          I wish people would quit lumping Social Security in with transfer payments such as Welfare. We paid into that system against our will (supposedly for our own good), only for that money to be pillaged and wasted by the Democrats. If a private company ran their pension funds like Social Security is run, they would either be put in jail or have their buns sued off.

      • http://BobLivingston Joyce Embry

        Mr. Vanderveen, I receive a social security, to which I paid into, and I do not, “let me be clear”, did not vote of Obama and do not, again, “let me be clear”, go along with him on any thing.I understand your anger in all of this, but not all of us who collect SS are out to get something for nothing. Thank you

      • DaveH

        Yes, Peter, I think you stepped in it with your Social Security statement. I would much rather have the $180,000 they took on my behalf over a 40 year period. With just simple investments (CDs, etc.) it would have been worth well over $360,000 by now. But, at this point, I would be happy if they just gave me my $180000 back, so I could invest in Silver before the dollar becomes worthless.

        • Kinetic1

          IF you invested well and saw the crash coming, otherwise you wold be among the millions who have lost their retirement in the stock market. The idea of allowing each of us to invest for ourselves sounds good, but most people have no clue about where and how to invest, and many “financial advisors” are nothing but sales people out to make a commission.

          • DaveH

            So, tell me, Potential, how could anybody have done worse than the Feds who have spent our money?
            And I was talking about simple bank account deposits that anybody could have made.
            Even an ignorant Liberal could have done better than zero return.

      • ChuckL

        Peter, I am in agreement with most of what you propose. I would disagree only on Soc. (in)Security. many persons on S.S. were seduced into this poor financial position by the promises of liberals who promoted S.S. as a full retirement plan. It isn’t and it is not authorized by the Constitution. It should be made irrelevant by setting the payment equal to minimum wage, which would be a pay increase for may, and setting rules for a means test

        Then a Personal Retirement Plan should be created by making an IRA as invulnerable to creditor attacks as the current S.S. system and allowing full funding. Funding and payouts, up to minimum wage, must be free from taxes. Withdrawal rates that would expend the fund before the owner reaches the Insurance actuarial table maximum anticipated age must be disallowed. payments from these accounts must apply against the S.S. means test. The balance at the owner’s death would be taxable fully to the beneficiaries. as a lump before distribution.

        Government employees, and any others, who do not have a government sponsored or paid for, retirement plan should be eligible to vote. Even better would be the elimination of all retirement plans for all government employees other than Military.

        All congressional salaries must be established and paid by the state which sent the member go congress. This must include all office costs and the salaries of all office help.

    • DaveH

      That’s the role of Parents, Doug. There are many software programs available for concerned parents to block their children from undesirable websites. We don’t need to spend extra tax money on more Government Bureaucracy. Make no mistake, the politicians are after one thing (everything else is just an excuse) and that is censorship. Unlike with the MSM, they have no control over us. It must upset them terribly that we can now communicate so freely.

    • http://none Ernie S

      Thinking too much here. In “THE POLITION” if i remember right. Bill’s are sent to the floor with “RIDERS”. IF they vote for sometning the beleave in, the “bad” rider is approved with it. That’s how they get some crappy bills thru. So did he vote for child protection, and had to accept the rider to get the part he wanted?? (Thats what makes it so hard to decide on the man.) I’ve said it before, I vote for the “LEAST BAD” OF THE LIST. Sometimes I have regretted my vote.Hay!
      I’m only human. And I don’t know to sort out the truth from the B.S..
      Being 78, I

    • http://none Ernie S

      Thinking too much here. In “THE POLITION” if i remember right. Bill’s are sent to the floor with “RIDERS”. IF they vote for sometning the beleave in, the “bad” rider is approved with it. That’s how they get some crappy bills thru. So did he vote for child protection, and had to accept the rider to get the part he wanted?? (Thats what makes it so hard to decide on the man.) I’ve said it before, I vote for the “LEAST BAD” OF THE LIST. Sometimes I have regretted my vote.Hay!
      I’m only human. And I don’t know to sort out the truth from the B.S..
      THE OTHER THING. Where do people think JOB’s come from?? We can’t all work for a “Giant” industry. Take away the “Small Business” then WHO do you get a job from?? My son has a small construction coumpny. The cost of manditory insurances, plus wages and oveerhead (Truck fule, more insurance, upkeep, etc). And he ends up making less (per hour) than the people that work for him. They get the money, he gets the headaches. Any wonder he’s ready to give it up??? els

    • http://PersonnelDigest Mona

      Doug your right. Plus the way congress writes bills they start off like they will be good, then along the way they add this or add that and pretty soon there is so much about a bill that is right or wrong that the part you want has to go with the part you do not want. I feel that every bill should be voted on separtly and add to at all. How we can get this pass as law will be a up hill battle.

  • MARIO R.

    Would like to hear what Mr. Ringer and Mr. King have to say about this……being a “Constitutional conservative and advocate of the Tea Party”…..any comments gentlemen? Justify your voting record and your support for these payed by our taxes government employees.

  • http://beliefnet.com/debrincon Debra Rincon Lopez

    These are just more lies to make people not back the President Obama. This has to stop now,it’s far time they stop bashing the President & start listening more and finding out that he is helping all small business people in his plans. But it’s up to the other’s to VOTE his plans in. So they are the one’s to blame when these things don’t PASS, not our President. LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, NOT JUST HEARSAY FROM HATERS???

    • Allen

      Debra, this man in the Oval Office has done nothing but hurt America. You need to get your head out of the sand. Just because the Republicans in Congress vote no on the President’s ideas doesn’t make them obstructers. Voting for something just to please the President is wrong. The Liberals did their best to keep George Bush from getting things passed as soon as they took control of Congress. You keep saying that Obama inherited all these problems from Bush but fail to see that Obama has been in office for almost 2 years and has cost us many more dollars than both wars and the war on terror. Obama didn’t inherit Bush’s policies, he inherited the policies agreed to by a Democrat Congress. The same Congress that caused the economic downturn and blamed it on Bush. Without Congress nothing Bush proposed could have gotten passed. On the other hand due to a Democrat Congress and a President that has a socialist agenda, we have a Medical overhaul plan that the majority of America did not want. Obama is not into reform, he is into remaking the Country. This is not hate, it is truth. Face it and let’s get on with real bills that will help our Nation to recover and not just to fulfill one man’s or or one party’s agenda.

    • CONSERVATIVE AT BIRTH

      Another totalitarian socialist (F.D.R.), did the same things this totalitarian socialist in the White House is doing. It did’nt work! I suggest you do some reading. Try a book written by F.D.R.’s Secretary of the Treasury Mr. Morgantheau.

      • DaveH

        Good article on the Depression that thrived under Roosevelt (a man that Obama admires):
        http://mises.org/daily/3515

        Of course, Debra won’t read it. Liberals much prefer to swelter in their ignorance.

    • Judy

      View of the big picture = Soviet Union

    • DaveH

      Lies, Debra? So then, you could point them out to us and explain why they are?
      And perhaps you could enlighten us as to the “Big Picture” you would like us to look at, instead of boring us with the usual Liberal name-calling.

    • s c

      DRL, guess what you can do with your whiz and moan belief that a prez who has a MAJORITY in Congress deserves sympathy. A prez who has a MAJORITY in Congress and CAN’T get what he wants passed is a loser, a whiner, an incompetent, a typical parasite
      and a LIAR.
      You have NO concept what the ‘big picture’ is. Someone who protects LIARS might as well be viewed as a liar. Grow up, and separate the bs from the pancakes. At this rate, you’ll be voting for LIARS who have no plans to live up to their LIES and promises when your grandchildren are trying to understand why ‘grandma’ just doesn’t “get it.”
      You don’t “get it” YOU choose NOT to “get it.”

    • http://LibertyAlert CSchutz

      Deb….Get your head out of your butt!!

      • Claire

        Now that was real nice. Good grief.

    • http://naver samurai

      You are either very confused form drinking too much lib kool aid or you are a paid employee of the SEIU, which one are you?

  • Bruce D.

    Debra might you be one of those haters you are trying to warn us about. “Hearsay from haters” might be something you should look at for your own live.

  • Bruce D.

    Here are some new Constitutional conservates supported by Jim DeMint.
    In fact, in addition to Pat Toomey in Pennsylvania and Marco Rubio in Florida, the Senate Conservatives Fund has also endorsed Rand Paul in Kentucky, Mike Lee in Utah, Sharron Angle in Nevada, Ron Johnson in Wisconsin, Dino Rossi in Washington, Ken Buck in Colorado and, most recently, Joe Miller in Alaska.

  • HFlashman

    Don’t you just love when a politician sells the Nation out for his own political gain? King represents the Party of ‘No’ and whores to the recent and short lived phenomenon of the TPers and ultra Right. He cares not for what this nation needs….he cares not for what this Nation wants … and he certainly cares not for the individual American.

    Give the paty of ‘No’ what it is asking for…just say “No” to the party of “No” at the ballot box come November. Vote Libertarian, vote Green, Vote Indepednent party…but give them what they’ve given us these past two years…a vote of ‘no” !

    • CONSERVATIVE AT BIRTH

      As usual your rant is uninteligable.

      • HFlashman

        maybe you should retake that IQ test.

        • Strawberry Shortcake

          No he’s right Flashyboy…what the hell are you saying? Do you understand what Libertarians are? If so, how the hell do you post half of the crap that you do? Your comments and opinions are always very heavy with liberal-like banter. A Libertarian maintains a viewpoint of free will…which would be LESS government. I see you attack the GOP often but I never hear you say much about anything else. You seem to be anti-conservative more than you are not and I would say Libertarians are probably more ULTRA conservative than anything. I align with them, they believe in no particular party but more of whomever will uphold the Constitution and protecting our rights there-by, as it should be.

          • Kinetic1

            Flash referred to the “party of No”, and we all know that means the Republicans. He is suggesting that we all vote AGAINST the Republican party, no matter whether you are liberal or conservative. It is unlikely that Flash is conservative, but he has given conservatives an option rather than suggesting that you must vote Liberal to oppose the Republican party. It’s not that hard to understand his point.

            I agree that Libertarians are likely to vote no on most of Obama’s plans, but that is a matter of political philosophy. The Republicans have made a point of voting no as a policy. During the health care debate they openly admitted that, no matter what concessions were made to address Republican concerns, they would vote no. Even on issues they supported in the past, the Republicans have voted no just to impede progress during a Democratic administration. This is the BS that has to stop. I believe this is what Flash is referring to. Now do you understand?

          • DaveH

            Libertarians consider themselves to be in the center between left-wingers (who want to help themselves to our property) and right-wingers (who want to save us from ourselves). Some of us (me too) consider ourselves the True Conservatives as we are very much politically like our Founders were.

          • DaveH

            The Democrats are the party of Unions. And it shows. They propose to take an additional half of our money and half our leftover freedom. Their idea of compromise is that we should meet them halfway and give up only an additional 1/4 of our money and an additional 1/4 of our leftover freedom. Anybody who says “Hell No”, you will get no additional money and no more of our leftover freedom becomes the Party of NO.
            Liberals have it all neatly sewed up in their favor, don’t they?
            But they make the illogical assumption that the rest of us are as ignorant as they are. And they will go down with the ship rather than admit their lack of morality and lack of a work ethic.

  • Allen

    You’re right, we will vote “no”. “No” to all Liberals no matter what party.

    • Judy

      They’re just not getting the message, are they. Americans are coming whether they like it or not. We will take back our country. No more talk. :)

      • http://none Ernie S

        I’d like to add this thought. FIGURES DON’T LIE, BUT, LIERS CAN FIGURE. “They” (Rep or Dem)specialize in twisting the TRUTH untill you don’t knowe what the TRUTH IS. Isn’t that what males a “good” Lawer or Used car Salesman?? Were being sold a “bag of goods”. GOD help us sort it out. HE is probably the only ONE to know it. Cause I wonder at times IF the politions even know IT. I’ve heard it said, IF you tell a lie long enough or often enough, you begain to “beleave” it. So do “they” even know the truth anymore???

  • Bruce D.

    Why would someone want a ‘party of yes’. The idea is to limit government, not create a Fascist State. How does empowering government help the individual. What country has that worked in sense the beginning of time? It has always been a disaster for the individual.

    • HFlashman

      Who said anything about a “party of yes”? I want a Congress of innovators, of people not afraid to try new ideas. I want a Congress of cutting edge. I want a Congress who targets policies to help Americans as a whole, not simply the rich and powerful interests. I want a aprty who, instead of saying ‘no’ to every proposal no matter how beneficial…who will say ‘yes” to those that help Americans and our Nation and who will offer new proposals as well instead of promising fear, hate, entrenchment of class rigidity, discrimination and selective enforcement of the Constitutional Rights, freedoms and liberties. I don’t want anyone promising the past…I want visionaries promising the future.

      And right now? Since Raygun and Shrub came and attacked our great nation? With the exception of Bush I … the GOp has nothing to offer but the past, fear driven leadership fostering hate and division, no new ideas nor even a willingness to propose, and promising nothing but the past. They are bought and paid for to twist and shape the masses into somehow believing class rigidity and concerntration of wealth and power in the few is good. To the current GOP…Of the People, By the People, For the People means talking about three different “People” … not one. And certainly not for America as we know it.

      • Bruce D.

        What are these great ideas people are surpose to being saying yes to. They certainly aren’t coming out of the left. 70% of the people disagree with the leftest ideas coming out of the democratic party. Unlike you the majority of the people are reject socialism for the good of the country. Socialism only works if people are willing to work their hearts out for those who are not so willing to work. When you take away peoples incentive to work society declines and governments assume more power over the people.
        Obama claims he wants imput but in truth wants a rubber stamp to bills that intend to ruin and weaken the country. For someone that doesn’t like big business you sure defend the Federal Reserve Corp. to a fault. Why would you lump all big business together as bad. We do not need more Federal power over business. That would be a big mistake. Government needs to enforce the laws they have on the books now and stop watch porno during work.

      • Judy

        Let’s try the ‘new ideas’ thing after we’ve managed to dig our way back to the basics.
        Basically, laws were written to give the citizen a tool to use to protect themselves and their property. Let’s clean the books all the way down to that, shall we?
        What handing 1/3 of our hard earned money to a greedy bunch on the hill, has to do with protecting ourselves, I’ll never know. I’ll never quite understand how writing laws demanding we buy a certain product (insurance) has anything to do with my decision to protect myself or property. Any body?

        • Conservative Immigrant

          Thanks to fdr I had to “buy” social security. What a ripoff. If SS was such a great deal why not make it voluntary? Why do the lefties always have to force people to do things? That makes lefties a bunch of bullies. That’s how civil wars start.

          • DaveH

            They have to force people to do things their way, because people know better than to voluntarily do things the Liberal Way.
            Liberals are Bullies and Thieves. They don’t want to make the effort to be responsible for themselves so they try to enslave the rest of us to take care of them.

          • HFlashman

            CI…do you have auto insurance? It’s mandatory. Use the actual name..Social Security INSURANCE. One way to correct the failures of SSI running out in …. 30 something years … have the earnings cap in place where anyone earning say … 50 grand doesn’t receive SSI.

            Premiums go down, SSI is funded well into the futre, and the ones who need SSI have it. Asit stands today, the wealthy receive a check as well. You do realize that stats show most savings is exhausted when folks hit 80…so you espouse having people who hit 80 + find a job?

            BTW…I note many of those who in the past wer short sighted and called for SSI to be an option, are now quiet as they saw the values of thier retirement stocks and 401s drop to less than half of what they were. THAT’S why it’s called insurance…you dweeb.

          • DaveH

            Omg, Flashman, you are such an ignoramus. Or you are purposely lying. That wouldn’t surprise me either. First of all, Social Security won’t run out in 30 years. It ran out long ago. It is now a pay-as-you-go system. As fast as they get the money, it is paid out. There is no fund.
            And it isn’t SSI, ignoramus. As usual you are mixing apples and oranges:
            http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pgm/links_ssi.htm

          • DaveH

            I will post this additional link for mentally challenged people like Flashman who probably still won’t get it from the previous link:
            http://www.socialsecurity.gov/ssi/

        • http://none Ernie S

          Me again. You make a LAW that demands you BUY & Payfore health insurance. Great! How do you pay the rent & for food IF your living in a box, or are homeless?? Or even a small apartmen, but bairly able to buy food. Gess What?? WE can pay for it. ( This is bound to OFFEND someone) 40 yeqrs ago, when working in Detroit, Mich., They refered to the PROFESIONAL WELFAIR RECIPUTENT. Black,white,Indian,Mexican.
          No racial refrence here. Name calling acomplishes NOTHING. WE THE PEOPLE are all responsable. Like it or not. Just pray for gidence to make the RIGHT desision come Oct. 4th. IF you don’t vote, YOU ARE the problem. God Bless. els

      • http://libertymind.wordpress.com Patriot1776

        Congress should stick to thier constitutionally enumerated powers and keep thier nose out of our daily lives! The States and local municipalities are much better suited to deal with and understand our local needs. Just because U.S. case law and the Supreme Court have twisted and inverted the Constitution to be used against the States and thier people doesn’t make it right. The purpose of our Constitution was to LIMIT the reach of the Federal government and ensure a republican form of government to thr people of the individual, sovereign States. The Federal government is meant to have less power than the States. How else is this supposed to be a Union of States if the federal government dictates everything to us and our home State? Read our founding documents and debates over the ratification of the Constitution and you can CLEARLY see that the Federal government is acting well beyond it’s limits and has become a tyrannical entity who claims good intentions. Just make sure you read the original SOURCE material. I believe that most in Congress actually believe they are doing good weather they are or are not. But laws governing my everyday life and yours should not be up for debate in the halls of Congress. They are too far removed from our daily lives to understand our individual needs, nor our States needs for that matter. government is meant in this Union to work from the people upwards not the other way around. In order to secure that form of government the power should be strongest at the local level. In other words, if your city government had the most power you would focus your energy on local issues, elections, and problems. The next level of power is in your county seat, then the State, and finally the Federal government. As the power gets farther away from you the influence on your daily life should be LESS influential! Then we could all live in the manner we choose and who cares if the next State over has laws we don’t like. It wouldn’t affect you. Now imagine if the Federal government was actually still confined to the “chains of the constitution”. You wouldn’t care less about what they were doing because it could’t have an effect on your daily life. This is how it was supposed to work.

        • DaveH

          Well said, Patriot.

  • Claire

    I wish us all luck in Novemeber. Somehow I have a feeling it will be more of the same. Politicians will not give up the “lobbysists,” they will not give up their “pork” and they sure as heck will not be able to bring America out of this mess for several years. Smaller government, yes, but a common sense government is what America needs. Will we get it? It remains to be seen.

    • Judy

      We don’t need government at all. I dearly wish every state would bow out of the union.

      • DaveH

        It would be nice if the Conservative States did just that, and leave the Liberals to fend for themselves. They would steal each others money until they became like Cuba. And we would be laughing from the outside.

  • perry

    just say no

  • http://yahoo abby

    Debra
    You say it is inherited from the past presidency. That’s true. Every new president inherits from the previous; however, you can’t say it’s Bush’s fault. That is becoming laughable. The Democrat’s have had the power well over two years before this latest presidential election.
    No president is perfect. They make decisions based on the information provided them. To do that, you need people who are skilled in business skills, not from book learning.
    This current presidency is made up of unions, SEIU, and other tax dodging personnel. Our government has grown substantially since the latest election; our debt has even surpassed the unimaginable.
    The government is not here to provide for the people; it is here to protect them. Providing benefits takes away an individual’s desire for achievement, destroys pride (if they had any to start with); and will ultimately fail. When an individual says “he’s going to pay my mortgage, buy me a car, and take care of me”, what does that say. Eventually, there will be more takers than doers and that will result in everyone losing. Why should an individual work hard and end up being taxed so those not willing to work can have a share. That is socialism and I for one, do not believe in it. I believe in helping those in need through no fault of their own, those that tried to make wise decision but circumstances curtailed their efforts.
    I do not believe in people coming to the US and being provided food, housing, medical, etc. Anyone coming to this country must learn our language and earn his way.
    We need to beware of problems in the future, such as Sariah law, Constitutional destruction, babies being killed, etc. Germany killed many people in the past; we are killing many people now. A baby’s heart is beating in a matter of weeks; they are a human being — just as important as our handicapped and elderly. Today, it is an unborn infant; will tomorrow be the elderly, the sick, the handicapped?
    God gave us a brain, an ability to choose right from wrong. Let’s use this gift wisely.
    Our Nation has been a Nation of doers, not takers. Both parties are to blame for this fiasco; however, instead of moving slowly, the burner has been turned up to high.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      abby… Your post was right on the mark! I also believe both parties are to blame and I think if we could just get honest people in office, those that have some common sense, we would see a difference. As long as we have those who are in it for the power and the glory, we are not going to see the changes made that need to be made…

      • ValDM

        I agree that common sense should prevail, but in my long life I’ve found that common sense isn’t so common.

    • http://none Ernie S

      Me again, You are right, they are killing babies and young children.
      It’s called “manditory vacination laws”. May be sort of a health nut. But I do beleave that TOO MANY shots for whatever, is going to catch up with us. But the Feds say we have to have them.. Baaaaa Baaaa Follow the sheep. els

      • http://none Ernie S

        PS. Common sence is gettin RARE. els

      • http://LibertyAlert CSchutz

        Ernie…this is way off the mark. But could you please learn to spell? You have a lot to say but it gets lost because people are trying to decipher your spelling.

  • http://none Mervyn Cloe

    It is interesting how many skip right to the for the people in that glorious phrase describing our government. Many hold to a child like view that they are entitled to forever care.

    Little birds, you have left the nest and must forage for yourself. It is the life intended, accept it! Don’t play the blame game. If you still have youth, you have strength, which is a good part of what you need. Don’t try to make a mother Robin out of Government. It will only fail you in your quest.

    For the Editor: How in the world are liberal minds(?) attracted to this site?

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Mervyn Cloe,

      My guess is they are searching for the truth and know it can be found here. Most just aren’t ready to accept it even if they know it’s true.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Kinetic1

        Bob,
        No single group owns the truth. Coming to this site offers an opportunity to see what is going on in the minds of the more vocal among the right to far right. Some times a kernel of truth can be found that was not in other sources. Other times I see the irrational hatred that people have for groups other than their own (not that the right has an exclusive on this unfortunate truth either.) I come here to investigate, but find myself compelled to speak out against ideas i disagree with and correct mistakes or lies I encounter. Some times it is just a matter of interpretation. In the end, it’s a matter of balance.

        • DaveH

          The hatred you speak of, Kinetic, is very rational. Nobody likes being told what to do with their own lives. Nobody likes having their hard-earned money stolen and then wasted by the Leviathan Government.

      • DaveH

        Good answer, Bob.

      • http://naver samurai

        Truth? Libs can’t handle the truth! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
        Good answer Bob. Let’s keep up the good fight, fellow patriot!

  • BobB

    Some of us made the mistake(not me) of voting for the Hype for president, but the smoke has cleared. The thug from Chicago should be sent back as quick as possible!

    • http://none Ernie S

      Hate to admit this, but I didn’t vote for HIM eather. Fact is, I didn’t beleave in ANYONE on the ballot. Rep/Dem. No referendems to vote for eather. So I missed that one. Runed my record till then.
      But what do you do when your choice is Hitler or Stalin?? That’s what I felt like. Sorry about that. els

  • http://gmail i41

    FDR, was Onumnutts lite. If flashboy puts down his Blarney Flanks doll, and removes his head from one of his double use vents. He might see a vision. Oh I forgot he is too stupid and a parasitic leech on society, so he needs a airy fairy to be his visionary. This marxist muslim moron only beleives in total government control of everything. The socialist democrat party since its incepetion, wants every one to work for an agency, or the government. Debra proves she is of that moronic mind set, bob your head, and just do what the s–t brained idoit tells you. That attitude is pretty accepted in the EU, Mexico, by minorities, and a lot of of our “educated” no minded public schooled and college “fetched up” minions. I really hope states grow backbones to tell the intrusive federal government to take a flying intercourse in a rolling donut. Abby, you are right on about giving illegals, food, shelter, medical care, and in some states, walk around money. Just like Omoron giving million to Mexico for oil drilling and also his communist puke Soros’ company for oil exploration, that was our tax money. The green energy is the most dream land crap, that will take decades to develope. Onumnuttts infrastructure plan is bull, it will take at least 8-9 years before a shovel of dirt will be moved. Remember the shovel ready jobs 2 years ago, planted a few flowers, and drag behinds wasting money doing nothing productive. In the late 60s and early 70s roads and bridges, took 1-2 years to start building. Now over half of the money is wasted on hearings, multi surveys, studies, and loads of permits. It now takes 6 times more paper sufflers to process a plan, these are high paid leeches who sit on their a$$es and send out 3-4 year engineering students, which the smucks just sign off on. There is no jobs ready or any will happen for a decade. Even if the road is out in the middle of no where in the Dakotas, Wyo., Mont, or any other space. His bright idea of railroads they are private owned, so is that just another grab for government owned transportation. You or I cann’t run on the railroads, but we can use highways. Have the cities use the little electric sardine cans, and especially Congress and Onumnutts and Big Mamee, dispose of strech limos. Betwwen 4 years of the socialist democrat party in control of Congress and the marxist muslim moron in the WH, individuals are not going to venture out with their money, and the finanical reform sure a a peice of paper head aches for any business, it will not affect Wall Street or the 4 big banks, they wrote it with Tax Cheat Geithner.

    • Kinetic1

      i41,
      People like you will never learn. You spew hatred as if it were wisdom and continue to report lies as if they were Gospel. I don’t want to waste any more time then necessary on you, so let’s just look at one of your many debunked rants.

      First off, Obama did not “give” money to Mexico. It was the U.S. Export-Import Bank that gave out this LOAN. Second, neither the President or Congress has authority in these matters. If they had, this loan would be attributed to Bush, since it started during his term. Third, these loans do not come from our tax dollars. They are primarily private bank funds loaned to forign companies to promote the use of American products and labor. And last but not least, Soros owns stock in Petrobras, not Pemex. And the claim that “Obama gave money to Brazil and Soros” is also bull since Soros sold off millions in Petrobras before this loan was approved, so he likely LOST money.

      This is not the first time I have corrected this error on this site. Please, if you must go off on another useless rant, at least do some homework first.

      • DaveH

        For those who would like to know the truth about the Export-Import bank of the United States, instead of accepting Kinetic’s spin. Note that it is in the Executive Branch. And who is the Head of the Executive Branch? Obama, of course. I know, Kinetic will argue with me that it is an “independent” agency. But then one would have thought that about General Motors until Obama came along:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export-Import_Bank_of_the_United_States

        Notice that it’s charter includes the “principle that Ex-Im Bank does not compete with private sector lenders, but rather provides financing for transactions that would otherwise not take place because commercial lenders are either unable or unwilling to accept the political or commercial risks inherent in the deal”. In other words they give out loans that commercial lenders wouldn’t be stupid enough to give out. As usual, Government risking and wasting the taxpayers’ money.

        • Kinetic1

          Very good, DaveH. “As usual, Government risking and wasting the taxpayers’ money.” Over the last 18 years the US ExIm Bank has netted 4.9 Billion dollars for American tax payers. It’s work has provided countless jobs for Americans. Yes, what a waste of money this is. You and you ilk love to stress that our Government doesn’t create jobs or make money, but here is just one more example of how wrong you can be. What can you do but try and make it look like another Obama scheme.

          As to Obama’s control over the bank, you can believe what you like. If the President does, indeed control the Bank, then remember that it was Bush and his appointees (the whole board was his) that approved the Brazilian Petrobras loan. If he had any personal involvement, it’s one case where he did something right.

        • http://none Ernie S

          And the above is an example of the TRUTH being twisted. els

          • DaveH

            I provide references and you provide personal attacks. Typical Liberal response.

  • Patriot

    In Business as in Life, we run from those that blame others and do not take responsibilty for their own actions! Those that blame others do not belong as friends, customers, employees, business partners, leaders and certainly do not belong running the greatest nation in the world! CUT OUT THIS CANCER COME THIS NOVEMBER!

    • http://none Ernie S

      TAKE OUT THE TRASH ?????

  • http://libertymind.wordpress.com Patriot1776

    There is no electoral solution to our problems
    I hear many people saying that in November we will strike back at the Obama administration and the Democrats in congress. “We are going to vote the socialists out.” ……..Sure we will. Just like we did in 1980 with Reagan, or 1994 with Newt Gingrich and the contract for America, and how about 2000 with George Bush. Seems to me, we keep “voting the bums out,” and nothing really changes for the better, but it does change for the worse no matter who is in office. Well, with Reagan it did get better for a while. But even as strong of a conservative movement as it was, it eventually failed to turn things around.

    I have come to believe that we must either have a constitutional amendment convention per article V of the constitution, combined with State nullification of Federal laws, or we must once again declare independence from a tyrannical central government who is ignoring the citizens of the states and the states themselves! These are the only two paths left for true American liberty.The Federal government will not stop until it has entirely swallowed up the states and our liberties. We have been using the ballot box for a century now trying to fight the usurpation’s of our liberty. This hasn’t worked yet!!! We may slow the beast down, but only see it speed up again, and it destroys liberty faster than ever. How long can we keep trying the same thing and expect that it will work when history proves otherwise? Now we have republicans OPENLY supporting progressive ideas, and trampling on the constitution! BOTH sides are in it for their party, and power, not our liberty or our country! Until we wake up and realize the system itself has been perverted and turned inside out to work against us and keep the reigns of power in the hands of the new ruling class, this will NEVER change.

    With an amendment convention we may have a chance to repeal some bad amendments, (IE. the 16th & 17th) and modify or clarify others that have been grossly misinterpreted (IE. the 14th). As well as propose new ones such as giving the States an annual option to nullify bad decisions by the Supreme court. With 2/3 of the States in agreement a Supreme Court decision would be overturned. The founders never meant for the Supreme court to have the final say on law. Right now there is no check on the Supreme Court, I would say one is long overdue! We must have recourse on Supreme court rulings. We also can give standing to individuals in Federal courts when there is a legitimate claim to loss of liberty brought on by bills passed in Congress. As of today you cannot file suit in Federal court over things like Obama care because you don’t have standing. Only States and organizations like the ACLU, NRA, or NAACP can file suit on your behalf. Why? If individuals could file suit, it would be another huge check on Federal power. And how about some term limits too!

    I am afraid that even if we could get the States to call an amendment convention, and all of these things were accomplished there will still be judges who will reinvent the constitution and its meaning. I fear this is inevitable unless the people educate themselves and go through a fundamental change in their attitude towards government and liberty. Not to mention the unsurpassed importance of faith and morality which is ESSENTIAL to the survival of a free people. I truly believe that this combined with States acting to nullify unconstitutional Federal law is our last hope to salvage what the founders fought and died for. After that there is only one option. Secession, (or as Thomas Jefferson called it in the Declaration “separation”), and a new declaration of independence. This should be a last resort, of course. Just as it was also said by Jefferson’s declaration- “Prudence, indeed will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.” However, I fear we are past the time already to accomplish these things and we may not have a choice left but to say again: “When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to separation……..” I hope I am wrong. But I don’t think I am. Do you?

    • hundabuxt

      This is a lucid post and pretty much right on. We’re supposed to have a Representative Democracy, however the ideal so skillfully crafted by our brilliant forfathers has been preverted by the neferious amoung us, namely the super rich, Wall Street and powerful corporations, which have so many Abramoff’s lurking in our legislature seeking advantage at a price. Our government is for sale and the cost of the resulting transaction is born by the middle class largely because they’re the citizens who work and pay their fair share of taxes and more. Thing is the gross demands put upon our purse strings can no longer be met by the average honest tax payer. The federal government screws up virtually everything it touches and is the most inefficent component of our society. They’ve failed at public education, failed with Social Security plus robbed all the money, failed with health care by not at least addressing the gross over charge for care that is not the best in the world according the the World Health Organization, which rates France #1, our representation live like royality while millions of Americans suffer, failed at energy independance, failed at drug interdiction even after billions spent and given to countries like Columbia and Mexico, failed at immigration and protecting our borders, failed at import/ export equity and I could continue this longer than I could keep you from developing the 1000 yard stare. As long as incumbants have overwealming advantage in the ballot box and the cost of getting elected is millions of dollars that far too often is paid for by special interests with strings attached, we’ll not have representation with our interests at heart. We’ll only get lip service and double talk.

    • HFlashman

      Wow…great idea! We don’t like what’s happening…so instead of moving, we want to break up the USofA. Jeesh….do you get paid from Al Qaeda funds for saying that stuff? Because it’s exactly what they want…a destroyed and weak USofA.

      I don’t know about you…but espousing the same desires as AlQaeda ain’t exactly anything I want to do .. but apparently you do.

      • Bruce D.

        Breaking up the United States is not Al Qaeda’s agenda. Al Qaeda’s agenda is bankrupting the United States. The same agenda Obama has.

    • Mari H

      Dear sir, in response to your comment (Only States and organizations like the ACLU, NRA, or NAACP can file suit on your behalf. Why? If individuals could file suit, it would be another huge check on Federal power.) You must not have heard of LC.org, and Alliance Defense Fund, our religious rights; or The Judicial Watch, ACLJ American Ctr for Law & Justice and ACRU American Civil Rights Union, our constitional rights. Hook up with one or two of them, check them out, you may like them better for reprensentation. They need our support in helping to fight our battles against those intent on trying to take our rights away from us as well as Government Corruption.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    I totally agree with Conservative Immigrant. Social Security is just one of many rip-offs by Uncle Scam. He makes the perfect point – if the liberals/democraps’ policies and programs are so great, why does government have to force them onto us, against the will of most Americans??…..Likewise, many commentors here seem frustrated by the drones and diehard liberal morons whose comments make no sense. Well, these comments (HFlashman, Debra Lopez, et al) can also be useful and amusing – if you do what I do. That is, you can copy and paste them onto PowerPoint, along with a picture of the Great One, Mark Levin doing his radio program. We can create dibujos or skits, with 2 captions. First caption is the liberal moron’s comment, then the 2nd caption will be the Great One responding with a quote such as: “Get off the phone you big dope!!”

  • chuck b

    it will not be possible to change the politics of this country until we change the habits of the politicians. our congressmen and senators have a large country club in wash.dc. it has taken them many years to create this utopia, thanks to the taxpayers.
    come november and if the polls are right, we elect a new congress and senate while at the same time many of the old guard will be sitting there waiting for their prey to join them. that’s when the goodies start showing up and in a matter of time the plebes will fall from their righteous stature and give in to temptation.
    remember “the boy scouts” (republicans) from the “contract with america,” how long did it take before they had no idea what the contract for america stood for, have you heard “sean hannity” calling for a signed contract again. you mean they have to sign a contract to make them honest?? “when they sear in doesn’t that cover them”.
    at this present time we have a congress and senate full of socialist
    and driving this country into ruin, unless we remove these people and their communist agenda there probably won’t be a second chance. if and when they are removed, we should demand term limits and very restrictive ones. the pay scale should be revised and place them all on social security and they will have to be covered under the same health care as you and i. that way there won’t be a delay in their canceling obama care. we can see how destructive four years can be so we should never allow congressmen to stay longer than two two year terms and the senate to two four year terms. they don’t need to stay longer.

    • hundabuxt

      Yup. But it will take either an aggressive noisy revolution or a long time the peaceful way because they have the power we’ve allowed them to have, which they use against us. In fact it may be too late without the former. We’re giving them the money to screw us with.

  • Allen

    I hear those of you who feel that Social Security was a flop. Social Security is the only program that does work. The only problem we have with SS is that the politicians have been able tap into the funds for whatever they “need”. They produce an IOU but fail to repay the system. If SS funds had never been touched by congress there would be no funding problem. Now they say that the IOUs cover the system. If that is so, then why isn’t it solvent? Because in order to pay back the IOUs it has to be taken from the taxpayer (again). Congress should have no authority over SS funds. The funds should only be used for the intended purpose and handled by the States. The Federal government needs to get back to their primary function and that is to defend and protect the States and it’s people.

    • HFlashman

      It is solvent. Last I heard, there hasn’t been a default in payment and there’s enough to continue making payments for quite some time.

      I agree though. It was supposed to be a lock box. But then came Raygun and his scam and fraud act. Here’s a fact to chew on. Fewer than half of taxpayers have ANY cash savings, while more than half did before Reagan took office.

      Because of to Reaganomics, Social Security was converted from a pay-as-you go system into a subtle way to subtle way to overtax wages and thus finance tax cuts for the rich. The integrated federal budget (SS used to be accounted for separately) made this sleight-of-tax possible.

      But then…he’s a hero right? Frippin’ disaster is what he was..

  • chuck b

    allen

    you say social security should be handled by the states. i live in california we are ruled by liberal democrats, are you knowledgeable of californias fiscal situation? if so, you would retract your statement.
    democrats are not fiscally responsible, especially these modern day socialist and the republicans are too wimpy and weak. i doubt if california could ever be returned to a state of the republic as intended by the founders. we are overrun with illegal and minority citizens who thrive on welfare and a large fed and state employment. they would all be satisfied with a cuban type rule. free pot, free housing and health care and a small monthly stipend.
    i look for the stores to start giving peso’s in change any day.

    • http://libertymind.wordpress.com Patriot1776

      Allen is 100% correct in his assertion that the States should handle things like social insecurity. the federal government has NO constitutional authority to have established such a fraud er.. I mean program. This power is meant to be left to the States. If you live in a retarded State like California then you can move to a more sane State where the government actually stands up for liberty. If there is any left. Thats what I did. California should secede and take the northeast, Oregon and maybe Washington with them and form their own Socialist Union and leave the rest of us alone :)

  • DaveH
  • chuck b

    dave h

    too bad we don’t have more people like him in government. he has a lot of guts to take on the teachers union. he has my applause. good video

    • Mari H

      Remember what happened to the Kennedys after taking on the teampsters union?

  • jopa

    After the last two stock market crashes you would think the republicans would wise up, but no they still want to invest SSI taxes in Wall street.A multi trillion dollar bonus for their buddies.Other republicans want to eliminate social security medicare and medicaid altogether.I would rather stick with the Obama plan anyday for the benefit of senior citizens, veterans and disabled.The question was asked “why do liberals come to this site”? It’s kinda like a gaper delay.

  • Terry Carlson

    If “it’s the economy, stupid” then you can also conclude that “it’s the Constitution, moron.”

    They go hand-in-hand.

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    Bruce D. You are so right on! This has been going on forever, it seems. Conservative leave others alone until they are attacked. Liberals attack whatever they don’t like.

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