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Report: Only Paul’s Plan Fiscally Conservative

February 24, 2012 by  

Report: Only Paul’s Plan Fiscally Conservative

Ron Paul said what may be the most accurate political statement of the election season during Wednesday night’s GOP debate: “When people are running for office, they’re really fiscally conservative. When they’re in office, they do something different. Then, when they explain themselves they say: ‘Oh, well, I want to repeal that.’”

A new report shows what Paul supporters already know: The national debt will grow as a result of the tax policy proposals of any of the other GOP Presidential candidates. A report by U.S. Budget Watch shows that the tax plans released by any of the other three GOP candidates will grossly add to national debt.

The report says Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich would do the most damage to the Nation’s finances, with tax and spending policies likely to require trillions of dollars in borrowing.  Mitt Romney’s plan would do less damage, but still does not tackle debt.

Paul’s policy would cut tax revenues by more than $5 trillion over the next decade, the report said, and the revenue loss would be offset by more than $7 trillion in spending cuts.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • http://gravatar.com/revnowwhilewecan RevNowWhileWeCan

    Calling all Liberty Bloggers! I was at work last night when I caught the last few minutes of MSNBC’s Larry O’Donnell. He had the NERVE to call Paul a fake and use his soundbites from the debate to do it!! I don’t usually let the MSM crap bother me but I had to go to his blog, “The Last Word” and let him have it. Please take a small moment and go to the site and comment. Even his own following disapproved!
    By the way, I took a moment to plug this site and let HIS followers know where to get some real news!

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear RevNowWhileWeCan,

      Thank you.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • http://yahoo don

        bob livingston, ive been a loyal reader of personal liberty alert and a fan of yours. too bad there is’nt a way for everyone in this country to see what you are doing with personal liberty alerts. we might have a big change.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear don,

        Thank you. You can help by sharing PLA with your friends and encouraging them to share as well.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • http://gravatar.com/revnowwhilewecan RevNowWhileWeCan

        I thank you sir. I am new to the political scene and after searching for news sources that don’t have an agenda, I wound up here. I think that for any opended-minded person that hasn’t already been tainted, or for those tired of the lies in the MSM, then this is a natural destination. I’ve learned alot here from the articles and it’s bloggers. I don’t always agree with the opinions here but the facts presented always stand on their own and that’s what’s important, that’s what the MSM is obviously lacking in and that’s why I plug when I can.
        “While I do not agree with what you say, I shall die for your right to do so”. I’m not a great student of history but I think that was Marquette de Lafayette or T.J. Who was it, anyone?

      • Vigilant

        The following according to Wiki.answers:

        Though these words are regularly attributed to Voltaire, they were first used by Evelyn Beatrice Hall, writing under the pseudonym of Stephen G Tallentyre in “The Friends of Voltaire” (1906), as a summation of Voltaire’s beliefs on freedom of thought and expression.

        Another possible source for the quote was proposed by Norbert Guterman, editor of “A Book of French Quotations,” who noted a letter to M. le Riche (February 6, 1770) in which Voltaire is quoted as saying: “Monsieur l’abbé, I detest what you write, but I would give my life to make it possible for you to continue to write” (“Monsieur l’abbé, je déteste ce que vous écrivez, mais je donnerai ma vie pour que vous puissiez continuer à écrire”). This remark, however, does not appear in the letter.

      • John

        You all have been beating this dead horse for about two days now. I have been receiving news updates but have decided to unsubscribe from this cite altogether after about 3 years of receiving news. This is the first time I have enjoined a conversation and I am greatly disappointed in Bob and most of you who have posted here. You are so busy insulting each other right off the bat that you cannot possibly have a civil discussion about anything important. No wonder the other side is still in this thing. Conservatives beat each other up. Liberals don’t have to make us look stupid for we do a good enough job of that ourselves. I thought that God had a place in this cite but I guess I have not been keeping track. America doesn’t have a prayer without God’s moral compass guiding us and neither does conservatism. Call it ethics, principles or morals if you like but without those that we were founded upon we are toast so at some point the God of Abraham must be involved in the discussion. Keep pushing Him aside if you want but in doing so you continue to be a part of the problem and no part of the solution…Bob, we had a discussion about Scripture and I asked your opinions based on what you said concerning our endearment to Israel. You gave me long passages of Scripture without giving me your opinion. I know what the Bible says. I wanted to know your opinion. You asked for Scripture from another poster…I delivered and asked questions of you. I did not ask you for verses. I asked for your opinion. You have no problem giving your opinion based on your other responses so I guess that was your way of blowing me off. Either way, good bye and God Bless the United States of America.

    • http://yahoo don

      elitist network

    • Stephan F.

      Mr/Ms RevNow:

      Why would any rational, sensible, and reasonably intelligent human being listen to anything on MSNBC?

      • Thinking About

        Because they are wiser for listening to MSNBC than faux to get the real story.

      • http://gravatar.com/revnowwhilewecan RevNowWhileWeCan

        I try not to watch those kind of shows but it was on in the break room last night at work. I’m actually glad because the more I know the more I enjoy going to those blog sites and commenting to their listeners. Commentators now have to be careful because of what they say. They have to be accountable to their viewers now with these blog sites and everyone chiming in. If I can open just one person’s eyes, I beleive it can spread.

      • Vigilant

        “Why would any rational, sensible, and reasonably intelligent human being listen to anything on MSNBC?”

        I’m sure many rational, sensible, and reasonably intelligent human beings watch MSNBC.

        However, the irrational and unintelligent human beings actually believe it.

    • John

      Sorry Bob, I had no reply button near your response to my post. So does your reading of these Scriptures assume we have no allegiance to Israel as Christians? Are the Jews not still God’s originally chosen people and, as they have largely congregated in the land promised to them, do we not owe them the blessing from Genesis 12:3 lest we are cursed? Thanks! John

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear John,

        You write: “So does your reading of these Scriptures assume we have no allegiance to Israel as Christians?” If you mean the physical nation of Israel and in a religious sense, you are correct.

        You write: “Are the Jews not still God’s originally chosen people and, as they have largely congregated in the land promised to them, do we not owe them the blessing from Genesis 12:3 lest we are cursed?” From Matthew 23:29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30 and say, ‘If we had been living in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partners with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves, that you are [x]sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of the guilt of your fathers. 33 You serpents, you brood of vipers, how [y]will you escape the [z]sentence of [aa]hell?

        34 “Therefore, behold, I am sending you prophets and wise men and scribes; some of them you will kill and crucify, and some of them you will scourge in your synagogues, and persecute from city to city, 35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the [ab]temple and the altar. 36 Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
        Lament over Jerusalem

        37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. 38 Behold, your house is being left to you desolate! 39 For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, ‘BLESSED IS HE WHO COMES IN THE NAME OF THE LORD!’” (NASV)

        Best wishes,
        Bob

    • Edna Boddy

      Well, Ron Paul called Rick Santorum a “fake”,

      • Joe H

        Edna Boddy,
        And he IS a fake conservative that voted for budget increases seven times. He even as you guys so vehemently accuse Palin of voted for the bridge to nowhere!!! THAT my lady friend, is a FAKE conservative!!!

  • steve in AZ

    Thanks, Mr. Rolley for telling it like it is. One small criticism,however.

    ” The national debt will grow as a result of the tax policy proposals of any of the other GOP Presidential candidates. ”

    This statement would have been more accurate and fair had it referenced ” any of the other candidates.”, as opposed to “GOP Presidential candidates.”

    Also, after 3-1/2 years of Obama, is it still proper to capitalize “Presidential”? That office is no longer sacred to the people after Bush’s buffoonery and Obama’s destruction, is it?

    DONATE NOW so we can VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

    • MNIce

      A desecrator does not diminish the position, only its reputation. I refuse to degrade the Chief Executive Office of our nation by calling the current occupant of the White House “President”, but since he has the right to some basic respect as a human being, I refer to him as “Mr. Obama.”

      However, if he keeps usurping powers not his by law, I may succumb to the temptation to use really derogatory terms such as “His Majesty” or “His Imperial Highness.” (Any student of American history should know this is a deadly insult.)

      • http://povertylinge Smilee

        Certainly nothiing Minnesota nice about you

    • Meteorlady

      At least George and Laura Bush has class and didn’t turn the White House into a big party palace. Laura didn’t go on endless vacations/shopping trips, nor did the Bush’s do anything other than spend time on their ranch – and he worked while there. They also didn’t make campaign videos for YouTube asking all WHITE People for their votes……

      • Edna Boddy

        That is for sure about the George & Laura Bush. Michele Obama has not right telling other people what to eat, when they have shown what she eats when she goes to NY and Hawaii, Fattening food and very costly. They think they are in Hog Heaven, oops forgot Muslims don’t eat Pork. LOL!!

    • http://povertylinge Smilee

      In the newspaper today there is a article telling about the proposed budget proposals of the GOP candidates as opposed to the budget Obama recently released by a study done by an independent non partisans group comparing what the federal deficit would be by 2016 under the budgets plans put forth by Gingrich, Santorium, Romney, Obama and Paul. Obama’s was only larger than Paul’s. Looks like that makes Obama more conservative than Gingrich, Santorium and Romney.

      • Joe H

        Gee smelly you must have been out in the yard picking up those little “smart pills”!! Most of us here have been saying all along that is romney, gingrich, or santorum get in it will just be more of the same Odumberer politics!!! Ron Paul is the only TRUE constitutional conservative out there running!!! Gee, Beaver, do you feel better now???

      • Vigilant

        Joe H, what a blast from the past! I haven’t heard them called “smart pills” since my father told me the joke over 50 years ago.

        Shall we keep Smilee waiting, since you probably confused him with the term? LMAO!

      • Joe H

        vig,
        I think I’ll just see if he picks enough up to figure that one out!!!

  • Ltrain

    Ron Paul might be a better economic guy, but what’s that worth as his want to let every rogue nation such as Iran have nukes as they continue to tell the world ” we want to wipe Israel off the map” and Iran not hiding the fact of their real want which is to start a WWIII to bring in their Inmam anti christ?
    Ron Paul also feeling like it’s a good idea to make ALL DRUGS LEGAL, and not put criminals in jail, and just let everyone run free and spend billions more rehabbing those who’s minds are blown and lives and families are ruined down the road? RON PAUL IS A NUT CASE!!
    It’s not the economy..stupid.. It’s people getting their hearts right with God and following God’s Laws according to his Word, which will set mankind FREE from sin, is the answer..Ron Paul is not “a christian”, a christian supports ISRAEL 100%..as they are God’s chosen nation is a fact.

    • Average Joe

      Ltrain,

      Do you have a candidate of choice? If so, why aren’t you talking about your candidate…rather than trying to tear another candidate down? Is your candidate not worthy of praise? Considering your ill informed rant, I am guessing that your candidate has no good qualities to praise. In the future, if you are going to make accusations abaout a candidate…try to bring some verifiable evidence to bolster you case….simply stating your opinion, doesn’t impress anyone…except maybe yourself. For someone who has nothing valid to offer to the conversation…you sure talk a lot of crap. Back up your comments with proof….or realize that nobody is listening…..Facts matter..your opinion…does not.

      He was a dreamer, a thinker, a speculative philosopher… or, as his wife would have it, an idiot.
      Douglas Adams

      • http://gravatar.com/revnowwhilewecan RevNowWhileWeCan

        Remind me not to come under your wrath. If I do, I shall come with facts, links, polls, and novelty t-shirts to support my views.

      • Average Joe

        RevNowWhileWeCan ,

        Facts matter, opinions do not (unless they can be validated by facts). So many spout off opinions as if they carry any weight at all… they don’t…however, facts proving an opinion to be true, carries all of the weight in the world.

        It’s an indulgence to sit in a room and discuss your beliefs as if they were a juicy piece of gossip.
        Robert A. Heinlein

        There is no way that writers can be tamed and rendered civilized or even cured. The only solution known to science is to provide the patient with an isolation room, where he can endure the acute stages in private and where food can be poked in to him with a stick.
        Robert A. Heinlein

        Peace!

      • Michael J.

        Ltrain,
        Open your eyes, break free from MSM (including Fox) propaganda disinformation. Seek out new information sources, then boldy proclaim new truths you never knew before.

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear Ltrain,

      You are a victim of the government’s propaganda arm corporate mainstream media and your government school non-education system. Your ignorance is palpable.

      You write: “let every rogue nation such as Iran have nukes.” Ron Paul has not said this.

      You write: “they continue to tell the world ” we want to wipe Israel off the map”. Iran has not said this.

      You write: “Ron Paul also feeling like it’s a good idea to make ALL DRUGS LEGAL” Ron Paul has not said this.

      You write: “criminals in jail, and just let everyone run free and spend billions more rehabbing those who’s minds are blown and lives and families are ruined down the road?” From where does this nonsensical statement originate?

      You write: “Ron Paul is not “a christian” Ron Paul says he’s a Christian and has lived a life to demonstrate that he is. Who are you to judge whether Ron Paul is a Christian? Do you have the mind of God?

      You write: “a christian supports ISRAEL 100%” That is an asinine statement as God does not and has not supported ISRAEL 100%.

      You write: “as they are God’s chosen nation is a fact.” Please cite for me book, chapter and verse to bolster this statement.

      You write: “RON PAUL IS A NUT CASE!!” I suggest you look into a mirror to see the real “nut case” based on these erroneous and hate-filled statements.

      Look for my Monday column where I give you the truth about Iran and government.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • http://gravatar.com/revnowwhilewecan RevNowWhileWeCan

        I shall definately not come under your wrath unarmed. lol

      • John

        Exodus 6:7 (NIV)
        I will take you as my own people, and I will be your God. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God, who brought you out from under the yoke of the Egyptians.

        Genesis 15: 18-21(NIV)
        On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram and said, “To your descendants I give this land, from the Wadi[a] of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates— 19 the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, 20 Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, 21 Amorites, Canaanites, Girgashites and Jebusites.”

        Genesis 12:3
        I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.”

      • John

        Is there not a way to reply to comments without first insulting the writer simply because you disagree with them? There are a plethora of opinions in your writing Bob and I would ask for and offer politeness as well as candor. Education often has more to do with the teacher than where they taught and manners have not gone out of style…Thank you

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear John,

        I would have preferred that Ltrain bolster his own argument. However since you are answering for him, I will respond to your post.

        Yes, that was the promise to Abraham. But his descendants did not keep their part of the covenant. They rejected God.

        Nehemiah 1: 7-8 (NASV)
        7 We have acted very corruptly against You and have not kept the commandments, nor the statutes, nor the ordinances which You commanded Your servant Moses. 8 Remember the word which You commanded Your servant Moses, saying, ‘If you are unfaithful I will scatter you among the peoples;

        Hosea 8 (NASV)
        8 Israel is swallowed up;
        They are now among the nations
        Like a vessel in which no one delights.
        9 For they have gone up to Assyria,
        Like a wild donkey all alone;
        Ephraim has hired [g]lovers.
        10 Even though they hire allies among the nations,
        Now I will gather them up;
        And they will begin to [h]diminish
        Because of the burden of the king of princes.
        11 Since Ephraim has multiplied altars for sin,
        They have become altars of sinning for him.
        12 Though I wrote for him ten thousand precepts of My law,
        They are regarded as a strange thing.
        13 As for My sacrificial gifts,
        They sacrifice the flesh and eat it,
        But the LORD has taken no delight in them.
        Now He will remember their iniquity,
        And punish them for their sins;
        They will return to Egypt.
        14 For Israel has forgotten his Maker and built palaces;
        And Judah has multiplied fortified cities,
        But I will send a fire on its cities that it may consume its palatial dwellings. (NASV)

        Because Israel played the harlot God scattered them. Because the Jews rejected Jesus, God rejected them.

        Now the promise in Gen. 12:3 is fulfilled through the spiritual children of Abraham. The Law was nailed to the cross, and with it the promise to the physical children of Abraham was granted to the spiritual children of Abraham.

        Read Galatians 3 for better understanding of this. As verse 29 says, “And if you [ak]belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s [al]descendants, heirs according to promise.” (NASV)

        Read also Colossians 2
        13 When you were dead [k]in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, 14 having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. (NASV)

        Romans 4
        16 For this reason it is [o]by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the [p]descendants, not only to [q]those who are of the Law, but also to [r]those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, 17 (as it is written, “A FATHER OF MANY NATIONS HAVE I MADE YOU”) in the presence of Him whom he believed, even God, who gives life to the dead and [s]calls into being that which does not exist. 18 In hope against hope he believed, so that he might become a father of many nations according to that which had been spoken, “SO SHALL YOUR [t]DESCENDANTS BE.” 19 Without becoming weak in faith he contemplated his own body, now as good as dead since he was about a hundred years old, and the deadness of Sarah’s womb; 20 yet, with respect to the promise of God, he did not waver in unbelief but grew strong in faith, giving glory to God, 21 and being fully assured that what God had promised, He was able also to perform. 22 Therefore IT WAS ALSO CREDITED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS. 23 Now not for his sake only was it written that it was credited to him, 24 but for our sake also, to whom it will be credited, as those who believe in Him who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead, 25 He who was delivered over because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification. (NASV)

        Read also Romans 10

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        he did say he thought you should possibly look into legalization of all drugs

      • WickedPickle

        “Look for my Monday column where I give you the truth about Iran and government”..
        (Bob L).

        Looking forward to it…

      • Jim C.

        Bob: Is it not true that Dr. Paul is spending campaign funds in support of Romney in Michigan, where Paul is not running? Why? Shouldn’t he (Paul) conserve his campaign funds for use elsewhere, if he is seriously running for President?

        Do you consider radio talkers like Limbaugh and Levin to be part of the “government’s propaganda arm corporate mainstream media”? I sure that neither Obama nor the Democratic Party would consider them as such.

        I believe Paul’s idea of the Constitution is seriously flawed, as evidenced by his belief that a “declaration of war” is required for the U.S. Military to be used by the Commander in Chief. In fact, the Constitution does NOT say that. It only says that Congress alone can declare war. Clearly, not every military action constitutes a “war” (i.e., a legal and political relationship between two or more nations, or governments). That concept has prevailed since at least Thomas Jefferson’s time, as he used the military without a “Declaration of War”, along with many other Presidents throughout our history.

        After Paul rejected Reagan, he became a Libertarian. The Libertarian Party platform for 2000 advocated abolishing the Border Patrol and opening the U.S. borders to allow anyone to freely come across them, in or out, with no limitations. Do you agree with that? Has that ever been a policy of the U.S.? Should it be?

    • factnotrhetoric

      Ltrain,

      Realize that you are parroting the only defense Obama has against Ron Paul.RON PAUL IS CRAZY!

      Obama will spend hundreds of millions of dollars trying to convince the American public of this and the public is not buying it.

      85% of all Americans are against Obama’s war with Iran to overthrow Iran and hand it over to the Saudi Dictator. This is simply replacing a bad Dictator with a much worse, genocidal, Hitler-Like, Saudi Dictator. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

      No Ron Paul is not the crazy one here. Obama rates highest in the Insanity Charts. Ron Paul is the only mainstream candidate that represents 85% of all Americans.

    • Steve E

      We are letting Iran build Nukes now as we speak, And Ron Paul has nothing to do with this.

    • http://personalliberty.com shirley

      Ltrain, or is it latrene…..If we remain strong milatary rogus nations won’t attack , nukes render everything useless, what profit is there in a useless nation?…Alchol is a legal drug….As for getting right with
      G-d,,,better start with yourself, Paul is more G-dly than you. When G-d said ” I will bless those who bless Israel , he was refering to Issac whom He named Israel, the world is the Lords, and the fullness there of,and all that dwell therein
      Paul is more constitutionally adept than all the others put together

      • FireMall

        Why are you abbreviating the God’s Great name ?

        I don’t hide from the name God for anyone regardless if others are offended when reading or hearing the spoken name of God . Period.

        I’ll die in God’s name and never regret standing for God.
        Not trying to be nitpicky , just wondering.

      • Average Joe

        FireMall ,
        I beleive that the abreviation that you refer to is an abreviation of 2 words… re-read the sentence and then think about it for a second or two….

        I could be wrong…but that how I read it.

      • Average Joe

        I just re-read the comment..and it appears…I was wrong.
        My appologies.

      • MNIce

        Correction, shirley: “Israel” is the name God gave to Isaac’s son Jacob, not to Isaac. The promise of blessing you referred to was made to Abram (whom God renamed “Abraham”) when he was first called to leave Ur and move to the land at the east end of the Mediterranean Sea, long before Isaac was born. It’s apparently been a while since you last read Genesis 12. “In you all the nations of the earth shall be blessed” is a Messianic prophesy – Jesus our Savior was born of Abraham’s descent.

        In reference to Ltrain’s comment on Israel, the blessing on the physical nation of Israel was conditional – it would extend to the nation if the people followed God and his commands. In addition to Bob Livingston’s very pertinent references, there was also a set of dire curses if the people rejected God. Read Deuteronomy 28 – the horrors of verses 47-56 are recorded in Josephus’ description of the destruction of Jerusalem in 67 A.D. – an event Jesus prophesied would be “great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.” For the nation of Israel not only rejected the long-promised Messiah, they conspired to have Him killed and persecuted His followers. God used their rejection to fulfill His great plan of a “once for all” sacrifice for all sins, then in His mercy gave them more than 30 years to repent and believe the Gospel. Some did, but most did not, as we read in Acts. In their rebelliousness, they brought on themselves the wrath of the Romans, but much of their suffering was self-inflicted.

        God’s plan of salvation through the nation of Israel was finished nearly 2000 years ago. All that remains is for the Gospel to be preached to the last person to be saved – then the end will come and the heavens and earth will be razed and rebuilt. Satan knows this is coming and fights desperately to delay the event by distracting the Church with worldly matters, heresies and persecutions. Kind of puts a different perspective on such “trivial” things as elections in the United States, doesn’t it?

      • TML

        Is it bible day? lol j/k

        FireWall

        “Why are you abbreviating the God’s Great name ?”

        It’s a Jewish thing… typically they refrain from casually writing the name of god in any form, so that the name written does not get ‘defaced’ or erased somehow. Deuteronomy 12:3

      • FireMall

        @—TML says:
        February 24, 2012 at 1:13 pm
        Is it bible day? lol j/k

        FireWall Quote

        “Why are you abbreviating the God’s Great name ?”
        Fyi. LOL It’s Not Firewall , It’s Fire “M” All as in Fire all the jerks come Nov 2012

        TML qoute–
        It’s a Jewish thing… typically they refrain from casually writing the name of god in any form, so that the name written does not get ‘defaced’ or erased somehow. Deuteronomy 12:3

        Reply: That’s strange at the least.
        I won’t speak for God , but as for myself, I’ll trust God to Protect those of us who stand up in God’s word & yep, even “His” name and his Greatness .
        So what if the evil ones kill me dead , big deal, I still will be , as / what, Bobby Bare sang about, “The Winner” . HeHeHe !!!
        And , of course , the Plus side, after I go to meet God, I also won’t have to be here ranting & fuming over what the Evil Enemies Within are doing to American & the World’s Christians and all other God based faiths.

      • Honestly

        Shirley… FYI….God was speaking to Jacob when he renamed him Isarel, not Issac.

    • Meteorlady

      So – when asked in an interview what Ron Paul would do if we were attacked his answer was that he would go to the congress and request permission to retaliate and if given, he would send our troops in and WIN THE WAR. He just doesn’t believe that we should meddle in the business of sovereign countries like Libya when they are having a civil war.

      As for drugs – has all the TRILLIONS of dollars spent since LBJ’s time been worth it? Seems we are loosing the War on Drugs faster than we can gather money to support it so why not?

      • http://www.mototcarsfinancial.com Brad

        I feel that is Paul’s thinking, that if it is not legal than you have no need for the underground and if you have no underground there is no need for the cartels. Plus you can regulate and tax drug useage, in essence you could possible have more control minus the underground

    • kkflash

      Ltrain, you clearly know nothing of Ron Paul except what you get from the MSM.

      Regarding legalization of drugs: If our long-suffering war on drugs is such good political policy, why does the USA have some of the highest rates of use of heroin and cocaine in the world? If criminalizing marijuana use is the best way to reduce its use, then why is the rate of use in the USA double the rate of use in Argentina and the Netherlands, where it is decriminalized? (Check my facts)http://www.unodc.org/documents/wdr/WDR_2010/World_Drug_Report_2010_lo-res.pdf

      Ron Paul is not pro-drug use. He’s just smart enough to realize the billions we’re spending to curb use of mind-altering substances is not working. The drug war in the US has resulted in tens of thousands of people being jailed in the US for non-violent drug offenses. It gets people killed regularly. In any case,history has proven time and time again that you can’t legislate morality and lifestyle decisions, and our government has no business trying to do so.
      Ron Paul would rather divert that poorly spent money to educational efforts to reduce illicit drug use by teaching people why it’s bad for them. The bottom line is that Ron Paul is practical, intelligent, and most importantly, honest. He’s the clear best choice for President among those currently running from any political party.

    • Bill

      Ltrain-Have some heart. Everyone can tell you are not with it. You’re splattering words all over your self.
      Please back up your “facts” that you have to say about Ron. Nothing that you say about him is the truth. Only what “face” words you are picking up from others. Look up your facts, publish them and be prepared to back them up with your integrity. Then people will start believing you.
      Now try again, go to your writings on this post and provide back up proof to each of your statements. Bet you can’t and won’t do it.

  • Michael J.

    Vote RON PAUL for President with ANDREW NAPOLITANO as Vice President.
    IT’S OUR LAST CHANCE, AMERICA !!!

    Unless you’re content with four more years of the same.

    • Tommygun

      If the American People are smart and I think most of them are
      they will Vote Ron Paul to be our next President and having
      Judge Napolitano has his VP would be outstanding. If we don’t
      then you can sit back and enjoy another four years of the same
      old crap on Pennsylvania Ave. DC

  • alllan higgins

    How sad that ltrain is the norm in our goburment schools of misimformation.
    Real research of RON PAUL insted of hearsay from the MSM whores would change many minds but it seams not to be. Ron said that the state, not the criminals in the fed controlled
    congress should deside about drugs.
    Israel itself agrees with RON PAUL when they asked us to MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS!!
    We have been interfearing with Iran since 1953. Research your facts before you
    show your T.V. gained imfomation. Shut off the properganda box.

    • mrbp

      I see youit spell checker has died. Have no idea who or what your are.

      • Joe H

        mrbp,
        If you can’t decifer what is said there, you have a bigger problem than spell checker!!!

  • roger gunderson

    Ron Paul is the only sane one of the Presidential hopefuls.

    • http://google rose

      Ron Paul the only sane candidate!

  • mrbp

    If anyone thinks Paul is a conservative you should go back to the days of Reagan. Paul attacked him all the time for being to conservative. Ron Pual is a failed libertarian, and now a complete idiot

    • http://yahoo don

      we had a different situation then than we have now. paul is the only one of the replubicans who saywe need to cut back and none of the others don’t have anything to say about cutting back. this country needs to slow down andtighten its belt on spending and live within its means. otherwise we’re on a fast track to the bottom. can you imagine if all people did what our government does. borrow to pay our bills endlessly. what would happen. bankrupsy. i don’t think our country can file for bankrupsy. it would be called default. it would make what we have now look mild, so criticise someone who would be willing to do something to save our country.

    • http://gravatar.com/revnowwhilewecan RevNowWhileWeCan

      No informed person here thinks Paul is a conservative. We understand that he is a true Constitutionalist with conservative views. Now go troll on some Christian site about Santorum……Back….back (whip cracking)

      • FireMall

        Imo; the term Conservative , is an oxymoron term, considering there is 4 candidates running and 3 of them are the epitome of Liberalism.

        Paul is without a doubt a Constitutionalist .
        If our so called leaders , aka Traitors were abiding by their Oath of Office , No President would be allowed to run roughshod over America’s future.
        There is no doubt , be Mitt’s Newt’s, Rick’s “ACTIONS ” that all three of them are in sync with the left when the Constitution is deemed , outdated, irrelevant & obsolete .
        There is only about 20 of the 535 Congress members whom I even assume, think the Constitution is just an Historical document that needs to be a current guide for governance.
        So; imo, all but Paul are covert Socialist , as seen by their Actions regardless of the words stating otherwise.

      • Honestly

        RevNowWhileWeCan…..You are not being very nice today, are you?

      • Joe H

        revnow…,
        I call Ron Paul a conservative, but I call him a constitutional conservative!!! Name one other running that has said he will endevor to cut the deficit by one trillion dollars? Or one that has promised to cut his own salary by 1/3??

    • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

      MRBP have you removed your head from Obaminations _ss? Ron Paul is the only Conservative running for President and has a plan to get us out of debt, I saw the Big Government Sanitarium now picking up what Ron Paul has been saying since starting his run for President now saying he has a plan to reduce spending $5 Trillion. Paul is a Constitutionalist and will abide by what our Constitution and our Congress has to say so a lot of what everyone is worring about may not happen or partially happen. But downsizing Government, Getting rid of the Federal Reserve, I.R.S., 5 Illegal Government Agencies, stopping Illegals from crossing our borders (terrorists) and getting 40 Million Illegals out of our Country and a real plan to reduce our budget 1st year $1 Trillion dollars and balance the budget in 3-4 years I am all for him the Three Stooges are just slightly better than our Illegal Radical Keyan Born Muslim Communist Half Breed and for you Black voters he is not BLACK, America/Constitution hater. Remove the DemoCommunist from The Black House (reference to BAD not skin color).

    • Mark in LA

      Uh no, Ron Paul did not attack Reagan for being a conservative. He attacked him for talking like a conservative but DOING nothing a conservative would do. He attacked him because he was a worthless gasbag that did nothing that he promised, He didn’t end deficit spending, he didn’t end the Department of Education, he expanded government just like everybody else.

    • 2¢ worth…

      Speaking of ‘fail’ check.. kit juan off yore hon bik kye…

    • Bill

      so Ron is an idiot. Is that so, and how do you know? have you seen one, perhaps up close in your bathroom while you are alone, and you are able to recognize an idiot on the spot.

    • Bill

      Ron Paul has not voted in 30 years to take a dime from you. Look, if the federal governmental did not add one more cent to the budget but just kept it where it is we are still doomed financially and socially. We can’t have people in the white house saying they will give any more of our wealth away to people we don’t even know. We need a strong defense to protect the nation and the individuals in this nation. that can all be done today using star wars concept. We don’t have to ask young or old people to die for “democracy” We don’t have to ask people to be sacrificial animals to the banks, corporations, global vaccine programs, Our constitutional system of government provides for the defense of the individual. Business (corporations) are not people, they are not a person. (have you even seen a corporation? No, what you see are individuals, buildings, equipment. If Ron Paul can keep the vultures off of you, you are going to be better off despite what you do.

  • http://www.pepper.net pepperdotnet

    There is no more hated man than he who dares speak the truth.

    If Ron Paul is not elected, it in no way impugns his integrity, consistency and wisdom. It instead says everything about how depraved the American voting public have become.

  • Patriot

    Ltrain, Actually you are the nut for thinking that religion is part of politics. I myself am a God fearing man. I accepted Christ in my life at the age of 10. Christ is my savior. But that does not give the the right to judge others based on their personal beliefs or spirituality. It does not mean I should condemn them because they choose to think differently than me.. In fact I know Buddhist, Atheists, Muslims, drug addicts and many more who a good people and live a noble life with nothing but compassion and tolerance for their fellow man. .I do believe it was God who said to love you fellow man. God and drugs are a personal choice not a political one. As for politics, I do not think it should matter what religion the candidate is. I have know many religious people who would screw their fellow man over in a heartbeat. What should matter most in a candidate is their love for there fellow man. Everything they do should be for the betterment of their people. To create a positive influence for the world to follow. If those in politics spent as much time for the betterment of their fellow man as the do trying to oppress, or kill them. We would not be where we are today. I ask you why it is our business to be the police of the world. Why is it our business what Iran does. They have done nothing to attack us. Yet we continue to push them with their back against the wall. Like we did Iraq. We were assured that they had weapons of mass destruction. Oh wait ,sorry that was proven false already. So do we simply go to war over the next lie out government tells us. Most likely yes, because politically, we have become lemmings one following the other to their death. Other nations our not our concern. Unless they directly attack us. At which time we should respond accordingly. Given it is a real attack and not fabricated. It is time for American to wake up and take America from the banks and corporations that are a cancer on the nation and the world.

    • http://PersonalLiberty Roger W.

      Well said! I agree completely!!!

  • Elz

    Ron Paul and Napolitano….wow, great choice. Blows all the others away, by at least a country mile. Their key is spending justification based on logic, rather than emotion. We will have no country left without that change….that’s the reality. Candidates always stress the most ideological and positive outcomes of their platforms while knowing it will never work out as planned, but makes great inducive rhetoric (the word lie, comes to mind) but Paul and the judge, give reality as their rhetoric. I hope this election shows educated people can ascertain the importance of honesty and the American spirit, and accept reality. These two are by far the best to truly LEAD this country.

    • MNIce

      There’s a rumor about that Ron Paul and Mitt Romney have a running mate deal – they double-team the other candidates, and whoever gets the most delegates nominates the other for VP. It started when somebody noticed the two were all over Gingrich and Santorum in the last debate, but did not attack each other. If that’s so, maybe the candidates aren’t as far apart as a lot of people here seem to think. On the other hand, it would be a huge shock to quite a few followers of both camps.

      • Joe H

        Mnice,
        Here’s rumor control, BULL$HIT!!! romney is Pauls antithesis!!! Paul would NEVER run with romney!!

      • Jim C.

        I’ve been hearing in the news media that Ron Paul has agreed to support Romney if he (Romney) will choose Rand Paul for Vice-President. Why else would Ron Paul buy ads supporting Romney in Michigan (where Paul isn’t campaigning).

  • Steve E

    If you ever get confused on what the right thing to do is: Just observe what the majority of people do, and then do the opposite. You will be in the right then. i.e., the majority in 2008 voted for Obama, I did the opposite, and I was right. I’m voting for Ron Paul this time. That, again, is the opposite of what the majority is going to do. The majority never gets it right. Are you one of them?

    • MNIce

      Normally the majority does get it right. In 2008, I think the majority voted either for McCain or “none of the above”. Most of the states did not go for Mr. Obama, and there is some question whether Ohio’s vote was turned by ACORN’s vote fraud. If so, an honest election there would have changed the outcome.

    • http://gravatar.com/tony1691 Antonio

      Steve, I get your point. However, John McCain was and is not the “right” one. the only difference between obama and mccain is that mccain has a birth certificate. Mccain would have followed the one world agenda exactly as directed and with great loyalty. I too voted for mccain, but not because he was the right one but simply because he was the ONLY other option…
      I will be voting for RON PAUL 2012 also and i currently donate 30 dollars a week to his campaign, however, just be aware that we will be under martial law by the end of this year; so ron paul will not make it…
      If you don’t think that we will be under martial law soon you had better guess again. They have everything they need ready. They have the S.1867, they have the NDAA, they have the patriot act and they have FEMA camps ALL over the place just waiting on YOU. Their one world government is at the finishing stages and THEY will not let somebody like Paul stop them. It only takes a little bit of chaos the enact martial law. For example, the solar storms of 2012 should do it…The UN is ready and very able to take over the US, out of 195 or 196 countries (nobody really knows for sure) there are 192 UN members and their weapons are pointed in our direction…
      It’s going to be quite a show….

      • Joe H

        Antonio,
        Boy! woud I hate to be in your shoes if what you say DOESN’t come true!! Never speak in absolutes on the future when human nature is involved. Oh, I too think martial law is coming, but I’m not ready to say it WILL come, no doubt. Those flares might not be as bad as they fear, Odumberer could come down with pneumoia or something. too many variables!!

    • 2¢ worth…

      The majority voted for Obama because they were looking for a productive leader just like everybody else… NOT (necessarily) because they were liberal but because Obama told them what they wanted to hear.. They didn’t vote him in for spite or because he hypnotized them but for the same reasons all candidates use, perception.. Obama simply perceived better than his rival.. We now know it was (mostly) lies.. Would it have been different had McCain won? Think about THAT.. Once we discovered WE were the fools on the hill, it was too late but like all failures, we must bear it until we can do something about it, not split the Nation by accusing others of being a left wing commie bag of liberal crap because they voted who we now know was a farce (in some eyes) and they in turn strike back with expletives of their own, disregarding the reason behind it. Obama is who he is, it doesn’t have to be this way come November 6th but let’s not blind ourselves to the point (anybody but Obama) that we would elect someone just as vile and crooked and not determine the truth of OUR choosing 100 days after swearing in. Ron Paul SEEMS the best candidate, he emits it in his words and actions.. We have a choice (as we did with the Obama platform) to believe there is a leader who can keep their word but we can’t determine that until it’s too late, always. I don’t think we will be wrong with Ron Paul, I do think anyone else will handle it “Big Business as usual”..

  • Patriot

    Steve E, Well said. Ron Paul 2012.

    • Joe H

      slight correction, RON PAUL/ANDREW NAPOLITANO 2012!!!!!! There, THAT looks better!!!

  • kkflash

    So much truth is delivered here about Ron Paul, but we’re mostly preaching to the choir. I think we’ll never convince the the brain-washed liberals to change their mind, but there are many independent thinkers, undecided voters, and misinformed conservatives for whom there is yet hope of enlightenment. How do we reach those people? Certainly, the MSM will be no help. Blogging at the Huffington Post will get you nowhere, too. Any ideas?

    • Bill

      I have an idea of how it can be done.
      each of us, every day, (every hour for some) talk with another person and introduce them to Ron Paul and the idea of freedom and liberty. tomorrow that doubles and then that doubles again and again and again. These blogs will get us no where. Yes we are preaching to the choir. We need to talk to every one that loves freedom. or if they don’t perhaps their children or family want freedom. Perhaps it is someone who has not applied for citizenship as yet. Hopefully they will get around to it but in the mean time we have to keep in mind that people want to come to America for what it represents. These people want freedom also. (for those of you who don’t know-freedom is not taking from others so that you can have your freedom, but it is earning that freedom using your mind and your body to do the best you want to do without having your life or labor be taken from you. Our constitution provides for that but we have to people in government who will uphold the oath that they took when they agreed to be elected. I propose a provision in our constitution that anyone who votes for anything and that “thing” is found to be unconstitutional then that person (s) who voted for that “thing” is immediately reverted back to a non-governmental person. Sure would slow thing down a bit. Heck even Obama Care would have been read before passing such an unconstitutional law. This provision alone would have the possibility of sending everyone in the Democrat Senate home to the farm and possibly others to some other nation.

  • rachal44

    The current news of a Romney-Paul Republican Ticket in conjunction with adoption of the policy announced in the current Article is a winner. Experience in the rough and tumble of politics creates a philosophically and politically sound program to offer to the voters!!!!!!

    • Meteorlady

      I would be very very surprised if Ron joined up with Romney ….. oil/water.

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear rachal44,

      Former Ron Paul chief of staff Lew Rockwell says the talk of a Romney/Paul ticket is a misinformation campaign by the Republican elites to make Paul appear a sellout and demoralize his followers.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Joe H

        Bob,
        Thank you for some sanity in a mad, mad, world!!!

  • FireMall

    To those here trumpeting a Romney Paul ticket.

    What ideological chemical will be added to the recipe that could possibly make oil & water mix ?

    I can’t see how a Socialist like Romney , or even Mitt or Newt , can ever , possibly , be a match with a Constitutionalist like Paul.

  • Meteorlady

    I thought that we should be able to elect people to run for office as we wanted, not as the two parties wanted and

    OK trolling along I found this site:

    http://www.americanselect.org/?gclid=CM6im46wr64CFSrCtgoduhwrSg

    I was surprised by the answers to the questions, they are liberal, but hey, if enough of us go there maybe we can change that. What also surprised me though is that Ron Paul was leading.

    They plan to trying to get the candidate that we all pick on the ballots in all states. That would constitution a third party in a way – but it would be us that elected that person to run. You must be a registered voter to participate, which I’m pretty sure most all here are…

  • kkflash

    Personally, I think we’d be better off with Ron Paul in Congress than as VP under Romney. The VP’s position is politically impotent. It sounds to me like a RINO idea to try and pick up some libertartian/conservative voters for the MSM’s poster boy.

    • MNIce

      Last year, Michelle Bachmann had some fun speculating about an active President of the Senate – it would be interesting if the VP would declare an unconstitutional bill out of order and force a roll call for a 67-vote super-majority on the point of order just to bring it up for a vote. It’s been a long time since the VP did anything more than a ceremonial or tie-breaker role. Normally, that’s a good thing, but the present Senate is a significant exception.

      • John

        I seem to remember in the Vice Presidential debates in 2008, the intelectual Joe Biden ripped Dick Cheney for going against the traditions of the Senate by being an active President of the Senate. For eight years, I think Cheney spent more time in his Senate office than in his White House office and he placed a high priority for this position.

  • Jack Coleman

    My vote goes to Ron Paul

  • Bob Marshall

    While no one man can cure Americas ills, who he appoints to his cabinet and his administration can make a huge difference. We know who Obama appointed to his cabinet and administration and the harm it has done to America. We have had enough politicians in office. what we need is more statesman. John Adams, 1772- A statesman would not compromise his principles. A politician would compromise his principles in order to advance his own interest.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Paul a conservative?? LOL!! I definitely agree with those who say Obama needs to be defeated in November. But why would any of you want to replace him with a nincompoop (Ron “Wrong’ Paul) who’s just as bad, if not worse, on foreign policy?? Last nite I heard Mark Levin talk about Ron Paul’s past. He is definitely NOT a conservative; but instead just badmouths conservatives and says they’re not conservative. However, he will not criticize Mitt-nitwit Romney – whom we know is not a conservative, but a RINO who makes John McCain look like a conservative!! Here seems to be a hint that ‘Wrong’ Paul would like to see his son chosen for Romney’s VP running mate this November. Furthermore, it seems MoRon Paul may be beyond an ordinary libertarian. While badmouthing many conservatives, I now hear that ‘Wrong’ Paul has admired a known libertarian/anarchist. The more I hear about this crackpot MoRon Paul, the more aggressively I will speak out against his bid for POTUS. And likewise, IMHO, ‘Wrong’ Paul should also be defeated in the congressional primaries and dispatched to retirement by the voters of Texas. ….. WAKE UP!! There are better choices; such as Santorum. The 2012 election is so critical to our future that we cannot afford to repeat past errors. We must (in the primaries) defeat both the RINO Mitt Obamney and the nincompoop ‘MoRon’ Paul.

    • Joe H

      Earl, queen,ny,
      how about a few FACTS instead of alllll that conjecture???? You know, PROOF??? Plant a few cites??? no matter how many times you spout BS, it doesn’t become FACT!!!

  • Thinking About

    If Ron Paul can claim fiscal conservative with the earmarks he has added to bills then the biggest spender can claim that also. Yes he voted against the bills but he knew he would get the earmarks probably making him even further from fiscal conservative. It needs to be truly address and he should use his honesty to admit he loves to spend money.

  • Bill

    My wife likes to spend money also. I just have to watch what she spends it on.
    Same here.

  • jopa

    meteor Lady;You said that at least George and Laura Bush didn’t turn the White House into a party palace.George and Laura were so heavy into drugs in college they are a little burned out.George was the go to guy on the drug scene and had his daddies cash to back up his drug empire.When George left office we see what his legacy is and what kind of shambles he left our country in.That is one druggie that was Bad for America and now we have to put it back together again.

    • Joe H

      Jopa,
      you CAN, of course, prove all that???

      • s c

        Shucks, Joe H. You know darn well that progressive utopians are “morally obligated” to make up history on a weekly basis. It helps PROVE that they’re loyal, anti-American bubble-heads. It’s part of their ‘social’ contract, and besides, once you’re programed as a progressive utopian, you’d have better odds being an honest Washington politician than you would to get that mental poison out of your system so you can claim to be human again.
        Their motto seems to be something like “we don’t need no ‘estinking facts. We don’t need no ‘estinking proof. All we need is a leader who will tell us what to think and say.”
        It’s akin to working for Al Capone. Either you were loyal, or you were somewhere else – or DEAD.

    • Jim C.

      jopa: Do you have any credible evidence to support your statement that “George and Laura” were “heavy into drugs in college”? Even if there is any truth to that claim (which I doubt), are you implying that the drug usage went beyond their college years? If not, it would have little relevance to Bush’s Presidential years, as I see it.

  • jopa

    Just take a look at some of the clips of the dubya and if seeing is believing then I can rest my case.If his speech and actions are those of an individual that attended college supposedly and a good one at that where is the proof.I want to see his documentation if he even made it through.His speech alone is an indicator of not having functional brain matter in certain areas.It was more than weed apparently to have such a diminished sense of reality and normal brain functions were not evident in his day to day judgements.A friend of mine that works with people of this sort in rehab explained dubya’s symptoms in a lot of technical jargon and it was scary that he was actually sitting in a position where one could find a president under normal circumstances.It is well documented of the Bush drug experiences, just something not talked about much and any one with a little computer knowledge and a little common sense can find out the facts for themselves.

    • Jim C.

      Apparently the Harvard Business School was as mentally defective as Bush, since it awarded him the Masters of Business Administration (MBA) degree. Also, Bush was the owner and chief executive of the Texas Rangers major league baseball team for several years before entering politics, and made the Rangers into successful franchise. This may sound trivial, but pro sports is serious business involving many millions of dollars, and success doesn’t come easily. I think the evidence shows that Bush is much more intelligent and capable than most people realize. He’s not a talker, he’s a doer! (Obviously, you have no credible evidence to the contrary.)

  • jopa

    JimC Take a little time and see how Bush made his money off John Q Public via Texas Rangers The land for the stadium was stolen through eminent domain, the stadium funded with tax dollars and when it was sold Bush made 14 million off the taxpayers and now the franchise is bankrupt.His oil business that went belly up was also sponsored by the cousin of the most well known Arab in the world.Usama Bin Laden.He may be your hero but my heroes don’t have a background like that.

  • johnjohn

    if people would only open thier minds to the Constitution and the Republic way of life that the founding fathers intended this nation to be, we would not be going through all this crap with Obamer. Read our founding paperwork and stand to the death for it, and all others would run from us. Dr. Paul knows what he is doing.

    according to the Constitution, Congress makes all the laws and not the President. and also according to the Constitution, Congress can only oversee 18 laws. do some reading people. all these government departments aint supposed to be there. but thanks to the progressives in the past, they are all getting to paid to interfere with our lives. The President is there to be only a mouthpiece…thats it!

    and hey jopa, heres another piece you can throw at em…when the Desert Storm war was declared, Bush wrote himself a paycheck for millions. he was a major stock holder in the company that built the Abrahams tank. besides, almost everyone in major power in one place or the other has done drugs. just look at the former hippes in office now.

  • http://www.areamike.com areamike

    The Establishment fears Ron Paul

    The Establishment says Ron Paul is out of touch, radical and dangerous.
    What’s so dangerous about him?
    He wants to return to the Constitution. And that the Constitution is our founding document and embodies our first principals of limited government, sound money and personal freedom. We’ve drifted so far from it that a return to those principals would indeed mean substance and change to the Government. The only danger that Ron Paul represents is to the establishment that fears it’s own loss of power. We’ve drifted so far, drowned so deep in debt, lost so many of our rights, fought so many fruitless wars, that if we don’t rock the boat now, we may end up sinking.

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