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Report: Obama To Consider Military Tribunals For 9/11 Suspects

March 11, 2010 by  

Report: Obama to consider military tribunals for 9/11 suspectsIn a potential reversal, advisors to President Obama are close to recommending that self-professed 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed and four other co-conspirators be prosecuted in a military tribunal rather than in a civilian court in New York City, The Washington Post reported on Friday.

Attorney General Eric Holder’s decision to transfer Mohammed and other terrorist suspects from Guantanamo Bay to New York City has come under heavy scrutiny from Republicans, who have stated that military tribunals are a more appropriate venue for those accused of attacking America.

Representative Peter King (R-N.Y.) and Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) have each proposed legislation that would prohibit any terror suspect from being tried in federal courts or in reformed military commissions located in the United States, according to Fox News.

In addition to GOP opposition, local city officials have resisted Holder’s decision because of costs, security and logistical concerns, the Associated Press (AP) reports.

Meanwhile, many liberal groups have lashed out at the president for even considering a change of venue for the 9/11 trials.

"If this stunning reversal comes to pass, President Obama will deal a death blow to his own Justice Department, not to mention American values," said Anthony Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), quoted by the news source.

"Even with recent improvements, the military commissions system is incapable of handling complicated terrorism cases and achieving reliable results," he added. "President Obama must not cave in to political pressure and fear-mongering."
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  • JeffH

    It ain’t over til it’s over.

  • American liberal

    Another example of GOP hypocracy… Bush tried at least 100 terrorist suspects in civilian courts and not a peep outta them…. I can’t think of a better place to try these terrorist than the place the terrorist act was comitted…and had President Obama said from the start he wanted to try the suspects in military tribunals the GOP would have been aginst that too… They’re agenda is easy to see, just oppose the President on anything and everything..

    • Blue

      A Lib,

      This guy did not plan and steal an old woman’s purse on the streets of New York. The New York Police and Judicial system handle that.

      9/11 was an act against the government of the United States. We don’t send the New York Police Force, in response to these acts, to fight our wars… which this was and STILL IS. THAT is what our military is for because it was one of many acts of war perpetrated by these individuals. Therefor, it is a military action to be handle completely by our military, which has always worked as required.

      Why are we trying to RE-define and RE-assign job responsibilities which have been established since the beginning of organized civilization?

    • blackhat

      Way to scew the facts! Typical lib behavior…During the first year following 9/11 (you remember, the day that 3000+ Americans were murdered) the mechanism was being put into place as some of those clowns were being tried. Once the thing was set in mud, then most trials have been by military tribunal. There have been those murky areas such as citizenship, location of capture, etc. with some of these well mannered animals that were given consideration. But, to take an obvious case of a clearly identified enemy combatant and give him the same rights as an American…hmmm…

    • s c

      AmLib, you’re wasting your time and ours. You’re whizzing up a tree when you try to lecture anyone on the fine point(s) of hypocrisy. You might learn how to SPELL it and get it right the first time. Did you get your spelling skills from Al ‘duh’ Gore, Kerry Poppins or Motormouth Biden?
      According to a certain document you PRETEND to love [the Constitution] we have the constitutional right to disagree with ANYONE who acts like he has no use for the Constitution. At the moment, if there’s anyone in America who seems to have even less use for the Constitution than you, it’s Obummer, YOUR prez.
      Take a hike, AmLib. You know how to whiz and moan and rant and rave, but you never learned how to think. Like most starry-eyed ultraliberal progressives, you are clueless. It is what defines you, rips off that half-baked mask, and gives off a most foul odor.

      • Joe H.

        SC,
        I am very loudly applauding your post. In fact my wife just looked at me like I’m going nuts!!! I explained and she is giving you an ovation herself!!!!

  • cerebus23

    i am sure any big wig terrorists were not tried in open court under bush, of all his mess ups, he did learn a bit from the clinton era of treating main terrorists like citizens.

    this if he does go through with it, would mark at lest one smart thing obama would do since he became president. somehow i have my doubts he will go through with this.

    • Blue

      cb23,

      I’m in agreement with you. I have my doubts that BO will go through with it.

      If you’ve read what is available on BO, his life, background, etc., you too would be convinced like I am, that he is a Muslim, who co-incidentally, happens to have a Black MUSLIM father. So WHY would BO want a brother Muslim be tried in a military tribunal? Why not drag this out in our Civilian, Judicial System, where he would have a GREAT chance to be freed by unsavory lawyers (I didn’t say crooked).

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    When Bush did his trials, it was not done in such a way to bring attention to them. Now Obama on the other hand relishes any and all attention, so he made a huge deal out of moving them for trial.

    American Liberal… Do you remember any news about the terrorists who were tried during the Bush administration?

    I believe the American people have spoken. The trials should not be in New York. We do not want terrorists on our soil. The cost alone should make it prohibitive, which doesn’t seem to matter much to our current administration.

    • JeffH

      Obama’s only reason to announce to the world that these terrorists would be tried in a civilian court in NY is just a diversionary tactic to get the public to focus on something other than health care. It didn’t work now and won’t work later. Even the lowly citizens can multitask! Surprised Obama?

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    I guess you have to be from a military family to have a military mindset__war to me is to kill or be killed, your there to win your cause, not to hold hands with the enemy and then walk off the fields of war TOGETHER for a picnic___Give me a Break!__My dad and 3 of his brothers all served in WWII at the same time, each on different fronts, ONE WITH A PURPLE HEART__I remember Dad’s stories of his dragging the dead bodies of soldiers across Okinwan sands___I’m half glad none of them are alive TODAY to see this travesty(my Dad would flip)in politics today and the political correctivness that’s seeped it’s way into OUR LIVES AND NOW THE war, a political correctiveness that’s getting us killed___ Reading terrorists miranda rights and God forbid we water board a terrorist for additional info_ and then we want to grant them our american civilian rights in our civil courts, the very Al Qaida who purposly slammed two planes into the WTC & killed 3000 of our people__I’ll tell ya what when I was in school, somebody went after me, they got it back AND I’M A WOMAN!__ The old mindset was, When one country attacks another___It WAS ON!__ Our constitution states we have the right to defend ourselves, it is the Governments job to protect us__Sadly the only thing the PC Liberal Left seem to be honed in on, is chipping away more and more of our rights, freespeech unless it agrees with the Libs, healthcare, Crap ‘n’ Tax and tax and tax and more tax__That’ll bankrupt us__
    ____These terrorists don’t belong in our civilian courts__Why the hell do we have Military tribunals if your not going to use them__ This is Ludacris!__this is just another part of namby pamby political correct crowd, those that think a slap on the wrist and quick stand in the corner with a dunce hat on is going to suffice to stop these killers___LISTEN UP, AL QAIDA DOESNT WANT TO HAVE A TEA AND KRUMPET PARTY FOLKS, THEY DON’T WANT TO PLAY RING AROUND THE ROSIE OR NICEY, NICEY__THEY WANT US DEAD!__QUESTION, WHY IN THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO TAKE TO TRIAL THESE TERRORISTS NOW ANYWAY, WE ARE STILL AT WAR?__A LOT OF THESE TERRORISTS THAT HAVE BEEN TRIED & RELEASED, EVENTUALLY GO BACK TO AL QAIDA TO FIGHT AGAIN, I DON’T CARE IS BUSH OR OBAMA RELEASED THEM, IT’S STUPID!!!__WHAT’S THE POINT?__HOLDEM UNTIL THE WARS OVER_ IF YOUR GOING TO PULL TROOPS THIS YEAR, WHAT THE HELLS SIX MORE MONTHS IN GITMO WHEN THEY’VE BEEN THERE 8-9 YEARS?__THE ONLY REASON FOR CHANGING ANY BUSH WAR TACTICS, IS TO GET AS FAR AWAY FROM WHAT GEORGE BUSH SET IN PLACE FOR THE WAR AS POSSIBLE__THE PROBLEM IS, NONE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS ANY EXPERIENCE IN WAR WHAT SO EVER, ALL THEY’VE SAID & DONE FOR THE LAST YEAR IS TO SAY THE WAR IS LOST, WERE CLOSING GITMO AND IT ALL GEORGE BUSH’S FAULT!__, WHILE OUR GUYS IN COMBAT CONTINUE TO GET KILLED FOR AN ADMIN THAT DOEST SEEM TO HAVE THEIR BACKS!__YET THIS ADMIN, TRASHES BUSH ABOUT THE HANDLING OF THE WAR, LIKE THEY KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEIR DOING__I DIDN’T SEE ANOTHER ATTACK AFTER 9/11, WHILE BUSH WAS IN POWER___FACTS ARE FACTS FOLKS, WHETHER YA LIKED BUSH OR NOT!___BUT THE LAST YEAR FACTS SHOW AL QAIDA IS ALIVE AND WELL, INFILTRATING OUR SOILS___EVEN IN OUR OWN MILITARY AND POSING AS CIVILIANS,LIKE JIHAD JANE AS WELL___EXPERIENCE SHOWS, THAT BRIGHTEST OF PRESIDENTS WHO TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT, KNEW/KNOW THEY HAVE WEAKNESS’S THEMSELVES, THEY ARE HUMBLED BY THAT FACT__ THEREFORE THEY CHOOSE MEN FOR THEIR CABINENTS, WHO ARE STRONG, WHERE THEY WERE WEAK__THAT’S A SMART MAN__A SMART MAN IS NOT ARROGANT, ARROGANCE RULES THE WHITE HOUSE.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA

    • Blue

      Angel,

      You’re on the mark with everything you brought up.

      It appears there are those in this country that are trying to give all the advantages and benefits of American Citizenship to Illegals, Terrorist and ANY UNqualified NON-citizen, while penalizing and pushing punishment of the Legitimate Citizenry at every turn. Who ARE these people? Do they possibly have a Muslim background or agenda?

      The Muslim goal is to take over the world and according to their Koran, by conversion, enslavement or killing. The Muslim (Islamic) “Community” in England has made great strides. They’re working hard at enacting Sharia Law there. This country is on it’s way in that direction too.

      For those who disbelieve this and think it’s all silly and hogwash, just look around. All I can say is read, do a little research. Check it out.

      • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

        So many people have refuse to see what’s happened here in our Country, we’ve been infiltrated by the Political Correct crowd hell bent on eveything being tolerant__tolerance means no change of any kind in my book__these progressive idots are trying to change the the Constitution to suit ANY AGENDA whether its right in the eyes of God or not__simply for more Votes, More Power, Bigger Government and more Money__it’s not about We the People anymore__ Because Washington is refusing to listen__I read about the Obama prior to his taking the oath my husband and I are repubs, no way were we going to vote for what he believed in__Obama ran as a centrist but his true colrs are showing now__

        • Blue

          Angel,

          There was a time when “Right was Right” and “Wrong was Wrong” but over the years, there have been many that have been working overtime to “Blurr” this view.

          You have to look at it as a child who did wrong. The child will give you all kind of reasons to justify what he or she did wrong. If you’re a responsible parent, you listen but hold to your correct beliefs. Well, the “Parent” in this case, our present society, is listening to the child and is irresponsibly being swayed by it’s false views. The bad is overtaking the good.

          • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

            Blue, abosolutely this generation of people are NOT willing to take any responsibility or accountibility for anything__
            Everything is a disease today Blue, The old man and I Dj one night a week as a hobby__I can tell you that there is at least 17 kids 20-30 year olds that come to see us__that supposingly have been diagnosed with bi-polar, adhd, add__and they are all on medication__and half of them have been in trouble with the law___and everyone of them blame their behavior on the supposed mental affliction__I believe maybe one or twwo have a true problem__but I’ll lay ya two to one the rest use it a lousy excuse for bad behavior and don’t want to be accountable for it__I may be wrong but I’m no spring chicken, at 53 I just didn’t fall off the truck!___lol

          • Joe H.

            Angel,
            Those are words the libbie progressives don’t want to hear. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!!!!! Blame it on Bush, blame your parents blame your boss, blame the rich, it’s all the same to them!!

          • Blue

            Does what I stated about, not ring true to the attitude of A Lib in this discussion?

    • American liberal

      Because your daddy was in ww2 you automatically have a military mindset? And does that automatically make you an expert on terrorism ?.. Interesting.. And very funny..

      • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

        American “arrogant” Liberal__I think your quite funny too!__I’m not sure I posted anything to you_ in your name, or did we just have to add our two cents??

        • American liberal

          Angel… Are you under the impression that I can’t respond to any post on this site that I choose to respond to?…and since you have such a ” military mindset” because your daddy was in WW2 would you like me to post the names of the republican party that pushed for the Iraq war that had no military service at all?.. Here’s a hint… It was most of them…same with your FOX news Heros… Of course Rush Limbaugh got his deferment( he had a boil on his butt)… If you’d like I’ll list them but it would take most of this page…and it’s me that’s defending the constitution and Bill of rights….

          • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

            AM LIB, Your free to think whatever you like an say whatever you like, but if ya give it, you get it back with me!___ What I meant was, that nine chances out of ten your mindset is that of which your raised as a child,_Now I don’t happen to believe if your raised in poverty you have to stay there__But neither do I believe, if your raised a ballerina, your destined to be a blacksmith?!?____ Think About it!___Your Serve Love!

        • Joe H.

          angel,
          don’t worry about American libbie, his deferment was a boil on his brain. Or was it his brain WAS a boil? Oh well, it all boils down to the same thing!!!

          • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

            I get it!!___lol

      • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

        AL perhaps your a Expert on terrorism and like to tell us where were all wrong___we’re all back seat polititions my friend including you or ya wouldn’t be on here!

  • Harold Olsen

    Shortly after it was announced that KSM and other terrorists would be sent to New York to stand trial in civilian courts, one left wing group attempted to justify this move by making the claim that military tribunals did not exist prior to 9/11. They claimed that Bush and Cheney created them as a mean to ensure that the Gitmo detainees would be convicted. I find it amazing the claims the left will make and the extremes they will go to justify anything and everything that Obama and his Nazi party does. If he declared himself dictator for life of the U. S. they’d probably claim the Constitution gives him that right.

    • Raggs

      I think he believes he is the messiah.

      • Blue

        Raggs,

        If you’ve every done a cursory read of the Christian Bible, it mentions the coming of the Anti-Christ and the end times. The Mayan and Aztec calendar indicate 2012 as the end of civilization. Is Barrack HUSSEIN Obama the Anti-Christ? ARE we there yet?

        I’m not saying I firmly believe all this but it does make you wonder. 2012 IS HIS watch.

  • American liberal

    You need to read the constitution & bill of rights.. Then be able to comprehend what you’ve read… The constitution or bill of rights mean nothing if the goverment gets to pick who gets rights and how our law is used.. I’ve got complete faith in our constitution, bill of rights and laws… I don’t have any faith in the rationality of the GOP to follow the law or constitution…every war this countrys fought has been to preserve our constitution , bill of rights and laws…I thought you rightys wanted to follow the constitution to the tee?… Or is it only when you’re comfortable following it and it fits your agenda?..again… Over 100 terrorist have been put through our civil justice system and it was the GOP who brought all this attention to the trials being held in new York….Timothy McVeighs trial was held where? .. Besides the terrorist stand a better chance of conviction in civil courts..

    • JeffH

      …and you stand a better chance of convincing bloggers on MSNBC’s Newsvine. Government has been picking and choosing for decades and have damned the constitution.

    • Blue

      A Lib,

      WWHHHAAAAAAAATTTTT?????!!!!!!!!!

      I repeat… WWWHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAATTT??????!!!!!!!!

    • Chuck

      Perhaps you should go back and READ the constitution. The rights and responsibilities apply to CITIZENS of the United States. They do not apply to every human being.

      Are you so blinded by your public education and the daily lies the media peddles to even think for yourself?

      The issue is not whether “terrorists” should get civil trials or military tribunals. The issue is very simple, and it involves citizenship. Are they citizens? If so, then they are entitled to the protections of the constitution and bill of rights.

      Are they NOT citizens? Then they do not get the protection of the bill of rights – very simple.

      The Geneva convention rules likewise are not relevant. They are not uniformed military.

    • blackhat

      Okay…Liberal…take a close look. Now, this is an apple. And, this is a hammer. Got it?

  • Dale

    Lib . . . You are bleedin nuts . . . the US Constitution does not apply in Iraq or Afganistan . . . under the Geneva Convention a non-uniformed combatant can be shot as a spy . . . they should have been . . . problem solved.
    McVeigh was a US Citizen . . . hence the constitution applies . . .

  • American liberal

    Are you under the misconception the bill of rights and constitution only applys to American citizens?…it was written as an example to how our founding fathers believed All humanbeings should be treated….are you conservatives saying .. The Goverment should have the power to decide who gets the protection of the Bill of Rights and constitution?…and are you saying that once the goverment accuses anyone of terrorism that you are a terrorist and have no rights?.. That what you want?…

    • Warrior

      Well, I think the terrorists would possibly say our laws don’t apply to them. So, shall we try them under the laws of the country that they are citizens of? Of course they could also claim they don’t follow the laws of that country either, they only follow the Koran so its permissible to kill the enemy. What a dilema! Let bygones be bygones and just set em free.

      • Warrior

        And by the way, someone should get a more flattering photo of this gent. It’s starting to creep me out like the vision of Rahm in the shower with Messa!

        • Joe H.

          Warrior,
          by gosh, I think you may have stumbled on to something there!!! they want us to follow the koran and since it says to kill the enemy, kill em’!!!

  • American liberal

    Bush pretty much ignored Afghanistan so he could conduct his personal war in Iraq..Bush also wasted a lot of resources in Iraq …President Obamas had much more sucess in Afghanistan and Pakistan… The Pakistanis are actually cooperating with America now..Something Bush couldn’t accomplish …

    • Airangel

      AM lib, you are spineless if you think terrorist who confess to plotting the death of thousands of Americans deserves ANY rights…he didn’t just confess but he was proud of it. He only wished he could have taken out a few more except those heroes on the plane that thwarted the terrorists efforts. True Americans made the losses miminal to what it could have been..I am so sick of hearing what Bush did or didn’t do…or what past president’s did or didn’t do…who cares??? We are in different times and need updated and applicable enforcements to fit the crimes of the times!!!! We are seen as gutless pushovers…so as far as rights…I think any terrorist or any felon that commits an act of violence against ANY American citizen forfeits their rights…when you break the law by taking another life, you shouldn’t have any rights…it’s called consequences and we need to start making people accountable – period!

    • cr747

      American liberal,,
      Have you taken your medicine in the last few days.. If you HAVEN”T then go ahead and comment,,because it does not make any sense whatsoever..
      On the other hand if you Have then go back and read what you have written..

      Obama being a Muslim is going to do whatever he can to let these terrorist go free.. They are his dog style praying brothers.. Can’t you see what he is doing to this country?? He thinks that,”We The People,” are a bunch of idiot’s,, and that he can let the Muslims get away with Murder..

      Wake up and take your medication!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • blackhat

      Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush…Did you know that Bush was responsible for the extinction of the Do-Do Bird? Lib told me…so, it must be true.

      • Joe H.

        blackhat,
        what do you mean he was the cause of the extinction of the do do??? the way Obummer’s been spreading it around it can’t be extinct….Bird?? Bird?? Whoops! NEVER MIND!!!!

  • Boo T

    When there are people out there like the American Lib person, we’re never gonna change things. We all have to be on the same page, and even tho you think you understand A-Lib, you don’t, and if all of us knew half of what really goes on in DC, we would go to DC right now and have a face off with those idiot politicians. DC just loves it when we fight amongst ourselves, it keeps us off their backs, you see.
    If we are always playing into the right and left fighting, they have us where they want us, distracted from the real issues. I wish I knew an easy answer, time and diligence and never forgetwhat they are doing to allof us, destroying our fine country and constitution (which is not a living document that adapts over time). Pray for us all. The power of positive thinking can do wonders. Boo

    • Blue

      Boo T,

      Your correct. People like A Lib will NEVER learn anything. How can you see, when you close your eyes to the facts, how can you hear when you cover your ears.

      There was one poster on another site who said he “assessed Mr. Beck’s Journalism by turning off the sound and watching his body Language”… WHAT???

      So my comment was: I guess that’s the way YOU “listen” to ANYthing, including BO… Turn down the sound and watch the body language. Very Intelligent!

      There is something that amazes me when it comes to Washington. We have a document called “The Constitution” which this country functions by that says, we are a government “Of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE and for the PEOPLE”. So in my mind, the minority of individuals, OUR employees, sent to Washington to do what WE want, go there and do what THEY want and WE can’t do anything about it. Is that crazy? They created laws for US but THEY don’t abide by them themselves. Something is wrong here.

      Anything they do wrong, they are NOT accountable. HUH?! We can’t get them out until election day. HUH?! We’re in San Francisco, on a hill, going down and there doesn’t seem to be anyway of stopping.

      HELP me!!

      • American liberal

        Blue… Explain the Term… ” All people are created equal”..does it mean.. All people are created equal unless you aren’t an American?…by the way… No administration has ever disgraced and broke the honor of our constitution like the Bush administration did….President Obama has done things I don’t like either but I’ll bet it’s not the same things you don’t like..another question.. You are aware that The Wall street bailouts started while Bush was still in office… You republicans and conservatives as well as Tea party people seem to overlook that point…

        • Joe H.

          Am A lib,
          “The bailouts started under Bush.” Yup and what was the make up of congress? Lib majority!!! And as far as the Iraq war, you libbies try to forget that congress gave Bush the permission to get it started!!! In case you don’t remember, “I was for the war before I was against it!” Remember now???

        • cr747

          American liberal,,
          Obama has screwed up this country in one year.. You can’t blame Bush.. When it comes to being Commander And Chief,, Obama does not even what that means..

          Obama is as useless as tits on a bore hog.. If we don’t get him out of office,,”and soon,,” then this country is going down like the titanic.. He has no clue what is going on.. All he has got his mind on is Pelosi,,and Reid,,and they are both so arrogant that they do not care anything about the American People.. All they want to do is push every one in Washington around..

          Can’t wait until election time,, so we can send them all home..

          BY THE WAY I AM A DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Joe H.

        Blue,
        It may not be the best way of listening, but Obummer would be a lot less BORING if I turned down the sound till I couldn’t hear him!!!!

  • Joe H.

    American Lib,
    It has been determined legally that the constitution applies to our citizens! Do you think if you go to any other country you will have the rights of a citizen??? If so you are very naieve!!! Simple test, go to the Panama city Panama and use a walky talky that you buy in the city. Hope you like the Casa Modelo!!! this “model house” is very much like the pictures you see of dungeons in the movies!! I know this because I’ve seen it!

    • American liberal

      Joe… The question is our countrys constitution… You seem to want Red Chinas brand of justice, Irans, N. Korea…..you don’t seem to understand our law… If you break American law you’re subject to our justice.. You want that changed?…so are you telling me we should mirror panamas laws?… Should anyone the goverment accuses of terrorism be denied due process?… Remember our system says innocent until proven guilty.. You ok with that?… I’m sensing you don’t support the constitution & Bill of rights…suppose President Obama decided the Tea party was a terrorist organization… Should they have rights?… Why do you suppose the revolutionary war was fought?…an Anti goverment person could be called a terrorist if you had your way to do away with due process..personally I like our constitution and bill of rights just like it is and I believe our founding fathers got it right…bottom line I think you just hate our president and because he wanted to try the terrorist in civil courts like Bush did that your aginst anything President Obama trys to do… I also believe the countrys getting wise to your agenda …

      • Warrior

        If the Constitution doesn’t fit, you must acquit. Actually, the Geneva Convention works nicely for these types. Tribunals it is.

      • Joe H.

        Am A Lib,
        You keep trying to for get that I am a citizen and all the TEA party are citizens. Do you think that the terrorists should get welfare? hiring preference? Jobs with the government? all are rights of citizenship. You give them rights I don’t care to!!! I’ll give them two rights, the right to a speedy trial and the right to a firing squad!!!

        • cr747

          Joe H,,
          I agree with you 100%.. Treat them like they treat our Americans.. Put their head on a stump,,and slowly cut their heads off..

          That’s what they have done to us.. They even drug Americans around town behind a truck.. And we are supposed to give them citizenship,, and a free ride with all the benefits Obama has been giving illegals::I don’t think so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Joe H.

        Am Lib,
        They didn’t just break our laws!!! They attacked us as a country!!! There is a major difference!!!

  • http://don'tno? Dennie

    7/30/2009 I HAD BRAIN SURGUREY. VERY AGGRESSIVE CANCER! i had multiple cancers.PRIMARY BRAIN!! NOW 04/23/2010 THEY WILL REMOVE A TUMOR IN THE SAME PLACE AND SIZE,AND WITH THE THE SAME HOSPITLE AND TEAM. I’M SO LUCKY! NOW TRIED FROM WHAT I WROTE, GET TO THE REST LATTER? I THANK ARE SOLIGERS MOST IMPORTION #1/ LET GIVE THEN OUR HELP, FRIGHT FOR ARE TROUP, THERE TROUP HAVE VALUE EVEN ON DEATH ROW! I KNOW ARE SOLIGERS ARE NOT GETING THE SAME.LETS ALL TAKE A MOMEMT TO PRAY FOR THERE SAFE RETURN AS THE HERO THAT THEY ARE. AND PRAY FOR PEICE? I ENPOLY 18 DR’S HA HA THE POINT IS YOU CAN HELP,I WILL TO !

  • American liberal

    Denise… God bless you and stay strong ….

  • Joe H.

    Dennie,
    God bless and keep the faith. We will pray fror your speedy recovery!!!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    God Bless You My Dear :)__

  • L, USA

    Dennie, Be well and remember, there can only be peace when the American troops win the wars in which they fight. goodnight and sleep well. Here is a link for you when you get rested. http://www.americancongressfortruth.org

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    Joe H, Oh I know, blame someone else for everything or sue them!__It’s bad enough when kids buck repsoncibility, but when we have to watch it being done under our noses by the very offcials we elect in office and with something as serious as war time, I just shutter to think what’s in store for us__we are blessed with a grandaughter 6 and a little grandson 9 months__I just pray there’s even a glimpse of what America used to be when they grow up, because what we had as kids in the 50′s and 60′s is so gone__God & Family was everything it still is too us__but it means so little to too many now___

  • Joe H.

    Angel,
    I know what you mean. I was born in 1950 and my dad never had to lock the door at night. We would go out the door at about eight Am and we weren’t seen till the street lights came on!! I didn’t even think about letting my kids do that with so many pervs running loose!! I wanted to know where they were all the time and I can honestly say I did or they stayed home!! Where I lived as a kid, everyone watched out for everyones kids. The parents knew the kids names and the kids knew mr and mrs so and so, not jan and john so and so!!! My kids always called adults by Mr or Mrs. so and so never by their first name!! I wouldn’t stand for it! I also spanked my kids if they needed it and they grew up alright. I got one in colege and another working for a direct care home. Not too bad if I do say so!! both have a good work ethic too!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    Joe H_ Same with us, We never beat our kids for no reason__but if they were acting up and wouldn’t listen, we whacked their butts too and Their little personalities even survived!! _I’ll tell ya, I have to laugh at some of these parents today__the kids are throwing tantrums in the middle of the store or something_and the mother says” Do You Need a Time Out?__My husband and I look at one another_and at the same time say “I’ll Give them a time out right across the seat of their pants!!__Our kids learned to say Please and Thank You before they could say much else__They too referred to other parents as Mr and Mrs, unless they were instructed otherwise__I was a stay at home mom and I think it makes a difference in the kids stability_We Are a close knit Family__Now,I’m not saying we didn’t have our trials_Our adventurer daughter got mixed up in drugs_after three years of us putting up with that__She caught me on a bad day,I ended up having her arrested for stealing my Dad’s car__I told her as they put her in the police car, if she straighted her ass up, she could come home_but this was the last time_I said if you mess up again your outta here!__Hardest thing I Ever had to do__But it had to be done__TOUGH LOVE!
    That was 8 years ago_now, she’s fine, married and the mother of two adorable kids and works full time too and hasn’t looked back!__What really bothers me about today in this “ME” society_that people destroy whole families, because they decide they’re just not happy or the perverbial, I don’t love you anymore__Then these kids just scatter trying to find stability__I’m rambling here_but ya know if I left home everytime something didn’t suit me in 34 years of marriage_I’d have needed a jet plane to get back and forth___America and it’s people is just a whole different mindset today_sadly a lot of the time it’s not for the better__

  • Joe H.

    Angel,
    i’ll take that type of “rambling” anytime!!! i hate the make special laws for me, I’m tired I can’t work, What me work, I gotta get away from my kids, or my personal most hated rant NOT MY KIDS!!!,type of rambling!!! God bless!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    Joe H___Same to you!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    Joe H, Yeah we have some friends that were always saying my kids would never do this or that_They thought they had angelic children__I’ll tell ya what when we raised our kids, I always told them “If you think your gonna try and get away with some new kind of mischief, forget it, you Dad and I already did it!”_LOL__The Old man and I started dating when I was 15_He was 18_by todays standards-that would be illegal!

  • Joe H.

    Angel,
    My oldest tried a stunt of telling me after I wollopped her on the behind one day she was going to call the police. she had heard this in school when one of her friends got over on her parents by saying it. I handed her the phone and told her to call. I said after you call, go upstairs and pack. i told her honey I love you with all my heart, but if I have to be responsible for you but can’t correct you when you are wrong, I’ll have to let someone else take care of you!!! She has never back talked me since and she is 29 years old. she will start talking about her childhood and I’ll ask her if I was too hard on her and she always tells me no. her friends always come over here as they know they are always welcome and some still call me Dad H.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    I hear ya JOE H,__our home was always the home all the kids came to, which made bit easier fo us to keep tabs on the kids__ A 16 year old daughter of a friend of ours did call the police after she and her Mother had a tif. My friend slapped her daughter across the mouth after she shouted FU to her in a crowded mall_The next morning My friend awoke to the police banging on her front door. She was questioned, put on 30 days probation and underwent scrutiny & counsiling from youth authorities__She would call me frequently just to vent and our kids would over hear this___I thought “OK_the kids are hearing this, we’d better set the record straight”__I sat them down and told them” Look kids, I know you’ve heard the coversations with my friend, I know there are times you don’t like when your Dad and I scold you. But your Dad and I love ya’s, and right now we think we know best, til your both old enough to spread your wings and fly__now, if your ticked off at us, you can call the authorities_ and yes they may put us in Jail or probation, but what you had us put in jail for, won’t be anything compared to what the hell happens we get out!_ I told them we love ya’s, but we have rules for a reason”__We never had a problem of that nature_with the exception of our Daughter’s drug abuse__she was dating a boy who was a druggie at the time, which we didn’t know,__ I was tempted to blame the boy for her drug abuse, but quite frankly it was her choice alone to either try it or walk away_I ask her one time after she was clean, was her life that bad here that she needed to escape to drugs, she said ” No Mom it wasn’t like that_ I was curious”___
    Now,I was the always the one who was fiercly independent myself & curious,she got it from me,__ but I had to be, my Mother was ill all of my life_ I pretty much raised myself,_ at 7 I became the Mother to my Mother for the most part, til I was 40_I knew God early on and prayed on a regular basis from the age of 9__ but drugs weren’t an issue with me_I didn’t have the time and I was afraid of them___But I did like the boys__My husband in his younger years and our boy were straight as an arrow__It’s amazing how different each of us can be and why!__

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