Rand Paul’s Conundrum

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Senator Rand Paul wants to be President. While he has not explicitly said so, his recent posturing and pronouncements make this a reasonable assumption.

His problem is the Republican establishment hates his father, Ron Paul, and him by extension. They’re showing him no love.

When Rand Paul ran for Kentucky’s open Senate seat in 2010, the establishment, led by Karl Rove and Kentucky’s senior Senator Mitch McConnell, did everything they could to destroy him. But the Kentucky Tea Party muscled the establishment aside and elected Paul.

Since then, Paul has tried to advocate for the conservative/libertarian views he espoused while campaigning, while at the same time he’s tried to cozy up to the establishment. Evidence of this and his Presidential aspirations is his genuflecting to the Zionists. He dutifully donned a yarmulke in January and prayed to the wall and made neocon sucking noises in meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, President Shimon Peres and rising right wing leader Naftali Bennet, backing far away from his previous hard-line stance against foreign aid. “I came here to show that I am supportive of the relationship between Israel and America,” The Jerusalem Post reported.

He’s even thrown his father and a former campaign aid under the bus for the sake of his relationship with the establishment. Former aid Jack Hunter was the latest victim of a smear job by neocon establishment propagandist Jennifer Rubin.

Despite this, the establishment still hates him. CINO (conservative in name only) Senator John McCain recently called him a “wacko bird.” Beltway Republicans do all they can to marginalize him. They even sent out faux conservative New Jersey Governor Chris Christie to engage him in a food fight reminiscent of a schoolyard playground yah-yah match.

Still, he’s cozying up to establishment CINOs like McConnell and Senators Lamar Alexander and Mike Enzi. He’s endorsing them for re-election even though McConnell has a Tea Party challenger and Tennessee Tea Party groups are looking for a suitable replacement for Alexander. Enzi’s only opponent so far is Liz Cheney, daughter of warmongering chicken hawk Dick Cheney. She’s not a Tea Party candidate.

As The Washington Post notes, Rand Paul’s bonding with establishment types is a sort of symbiotic relationship. Paul could use some good will in the party — and from powerful donors backing them — and McConnell, Alexander and Enzi could use some of Paul’s Tea Party mojo.

Yes, establishment types want that same Tea Party they so regularly denigrate to jump on board at election time so they can then discard them once the election cycle is over. It’s clear that Rand Paul is not his father; he doesn’t have the same backbone or the same principles.

What isn’t clear is how the long the Tea Party is going to allow itself to be used and abused by the Beltway Republicans — Rand Paul included. And if Rand Paul loses the Tea Party, then the establishment will have even less use for him.

Hat Tip: Economicpolicyjournal.com

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Bob Livingston

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  • Motov

    This country needs all the Ron Pauls we can get, I really hope that his son shows the same passion for the Constitution as his dad did, He’s got my vote if he doesn’t cave in to the rest of the CINO’s.

  • rjim

    He needs to get involved with an alternate party, like the Constitution Party.
    The Republican Party are Progressives and will fight to lose rather than allow a non-progressive to win.

    • Doc Sarvis

      If he wants to further marginalize himself then the Constitution Party is the way to go.

  • Warrior

    Rand and his father share the same “conundrum” as Allen West did. How do you call a “communist” a “communist” without using the word “communist”? Ouch, that was very “un-pc” and “insensitive” of me to even say that. Forward!

    • Doc Sarvis

      The Pauls might do well to take a Tea Party stance and reduce Kentucky’s burden on the Federal budget. KY is one of many Red states that take in more Federal tax dollars than they contribute.

      • Dennis Patrick

        Sen. Paul is one of those “do as I say, not as I do” conservative. Another phony.

        • http://betamaxmas.com/ Major Domo

          Give me an example.

      • LineInSand

        The Kentucky military bases’ budgets are considered part of KY’s share of the federal tax dollars. Considering that Fort Knox probably doesn’t have an ounce of gold in it, that could probably be closed today. And, the percentage would drop drastically.

        They also get a “royalty” from the coal mined out of their state – which the federal government has confiscated as part of the federal holdings. It is hard to say if the feds include the royaltiesthey receive for leasing those coal mines is included in KYs contribution or if it only includes income tax dollars received from KY based companies and individuals.

        A required reading for business majors was “How to lie with statistics”. NEVER trust any publications of percentages/numbers unless you are given the means of how the data was construed.

      • LineInSand

        The Kentucky military bases’ budgets are considered part of KY’s share of the federal tax dollars. Considering that Fort Knox probably doesn’t have an ounce of gold in it, that could probably be closed today. And, the percentage would drop drastically.

        They also get a “royalty” from the coal mined out of their state – which the federal government has confiscated as part of the federal holdings. It is hard to say if the feds include the royaltiesthey receive for leasing those coal mines is included in KYs contribution or if it only includes income tax dollars received from KY based companies and individuals.

        A required reading for business majors was “How to lie with statistics”. NEVER trust any publications of percentages/numbers unless you are given the means of how the data was construed.

  • gswifty

    Rand should take a lesson on how the RNC treated his father in last years primaries. Ron Paul is a pariah who never was going to win(let alone be allowed to alter the dialogue), and so Rand will be as well. He needs to jump ship and follow his forte. Speaking his mind and adhering to his principles.

    • dan

      he should jump to the conservative DINO’s (in name only) and see if they treat him better than the RINO’s…
      it’d be worth it just to see heads explode

  • 1baronrichsnot1

    The establishment GOP has won no friends lately and the last 10 yrs. They have screwed over their base to the point of no resistance to marxist takeover. They haven’t fought hard enough for america, and we should care that they don’t like Rand paul, he can run if he wants to and is admired by the conservatives. By the way, Ron Paul isn’t disliked by his base, he is disliked by the establishment, MSM likes to chastise him for speaking the truth. MSM hates anyone who tells the truth, so does the GOP. They scream at them, if they get out of line !~

  • TIME

    My Dear People,
    If there is a 2016 election, and I question highly that such an event will take place in a “Lawful” manor.
    As the November 2012 election proved beyond any question to anyone who is alive between their ears, that there simply can be no question any longer that the elections are rigged.
    The 2000 election was messed up, but in November of 2012 that was the “Coup de’ Gras” with a golden Oak Leaf Cluster.
    I highly suggest, you get ready for all HELL to break loose in the not to distant future.
    This will be on many levels not just political, so keep your options and ears open, your eyes on the game.
    As when this breaks open you will not have any time to get it together.
    If you’re a person of Faith, then make your peace with your GOD.
    If you have even been on the fence – then you can do as you wish I am not going to tell you what to do, as its your choice not the collective – not your friends, not what political party you think you love,/ the team you play for.
    The Christ only ask that {you ask to be forgiven for your ill behavior,} I am not going to preach to you but – what’s unfolding you don’t need a degree in Rocket Science to figure out, as Its so blatant that even a monkey can see what’s unfolding if they just take the time to look.
    Thus its with a heavy heart I say – I strongly feel ~ this Gig is over.
    The song has been sung by the fat lady thus ~ we passed Critical Mass in 2011, thus from that point forward its all just a period of Grace to get your house in order.
    My Peace be with you – May you find GOD’S Love God in your heart.
    { Bless the Sheep that are on their way to slaughter, as they know not what they have done.} Their blissful Ignorance will not be a shield to protect them any longer.
    Peace and Love,

    • dan

      Just in time for the grand Jubilee,my friend . 5777 .I love it when a plan comes together.Not the end but a new beginning . Be blessed and at peace..for if He is for us …

    • Vis Fac
      • TIME

        Dear FR,
        I am quite aware of all this and even more.
        As I have noted many times here, there is no such thing as a “Conspiracy Theory.” ~ when there are “solid FACTS / Evidence” that clearly display that these alleged theories are in fact TRUTHS.
        On that note you may wish to look into NASA, as well ~ to better understand other venues that are known to only a few.
        To find the methods being used on all of the Human race as a whole look into, “The Talmud,” if you wish to better understand Saul Alinsky’s rules for radicals, well that’s all explained within the covers of the Zionist Luciferian doctrine noted as the “Talmud.”
        That’s the real play book, and then look at how many within both houses of congress are followers of this doctrine.
        Peace and Love My Friend.

        • Vis Fac

          The True Facts are all around us it is too bad people have been blinded by false facts as you have been to see clearly. We have witnesses the militarization of our police usurpation of out freedoms the weakening of our economy and our forsaking God. We will soon be a POLICE STATE your failure to recognize these facts are typical on one dimensional ideology embraced by liberals

          Your reference to the non existent conspiracy theory is a clear indication you do not have the ability to seperate fact form conjecture another one dimensional liberal trait.

          The Talmud like the Bible is subject to interpretation and contains several conflicting accounts of events and teachings.

          You are free to accept or deny what you feel is fact I am only providing information for what I see as inevitable. I learn by observation experience and the failure of others. I am not doomed to repeat what does not work what the government has done for the past decade is NOT working it is time for REAL change back to what DID work for 213 years after July 4, 1776

          Praise God and denounce Satan!! “My concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right”.– Abraham Lincoln

          Semper-Fi

          • TIME

            Dear FR,
            As to your reply to my post – I am not able to garner your point,
            If you are hinting that in some way I am a liberal, well then yes that’s quite true but; within its {{proper text}} of what I am rather sure your not referring to.
            A “TRUE Liberal” is one who believes in “FREEDOM.”
            Plain and simple,
            What most think of as a liberal is not even on the same page as the Marxist who pose as Liberals by way of the Tainted Mass Media’s spin on what is, and what’s not.
            By the way Tomas Jefferson was a TRUE Liberal. Of what I would say I follow closely with his thinking patterns, that is from reading his work’s, as I don’t have him to speak with in person obviously.
            I also find myself compelled by John Adams way of thinking from the heart and soul type Liberal.
            Thus by its very nature being a TRUE liberal is being a Good Human.
            Again I am not referring to the current hoard of Marxist who lay claim to being something they are not.
            Thus they deceive the American public, by way of mass media spin. As well the misuse of words true value and meaning’s.
            I strongly feel you need to review my post again and rethink, or clarify what your asking or saying to me.
            As far as what I posted about the Talmud, it is not even on the same page with the Bible. The Talmud is the LAW of the followers of Lucifer, as in the Zionist mind set.
            The followers of Jesus Christ are not bound to Lie Cheat, Rob, Rape and or Pillage; that’s a fact that’s not open to interpretation.
            Also The followers of Jesus Christ do not hold money above Human life nor GOD himself, nor do they treat humans as cattle or pigs or sheep / chattel.
            Peace and Love be with you.

          • Vis Fac

            In the true sense of the meaning of a liberal you are indeed liberal context Freely embracing liberty. Liberals/progressives are anything but. Their liberal is ti o take liberty away by being liberal (free) with everyone else’s money. Progressive means to make progress another misnomer adopted by the left

            Speaking of adopting and adaptation liberals tend to be selective when quoting sources such as the bible and The Talmud which I thought were doing. Please except my deepest apologies as I was wrong in doing so.
            It is refreshing to find someone who is learned and has more than an iota of common sense courtesy and respect.
            Semper-Fi fellow Patriot

  • Sarah417

    History tells us that our government starts wars to divert the people’s attention from the problems at home that they have created. Trouble has been brewing in the middle east for a long time and it’s about to boil over. I believe the economy has already tanked and everyone is bailing out of Obama’s sinking ship.
    Obama and his shadow government are evil soulless people with one agenda, to own and keep their wealth and control the world. It’s not just greed and their desire to get more, but trying to keep the wealth they already have. If We The People don’t do something soon, as in, force obama to resign for reason of Crimes Against America and our Constitution we will no longer have an America. The UN will be our government and Agenda 21 will be our constitution.
    Or there will be WWIII. I hope I’m wrong.
    Read the Post before me TIME. he is right on the mark and says it better than me.

    • Bill

      Good analogy, Sarah

    • Arkham

      It sounds like you are also describing the Koch brothers and the Walmart heirs.

    • Vis Fac

      I don’t think WWIII will occur before our collapse into a police state.

      Have you ever been to Denver airport? Among the baggage handlers, flight attendants and bored passengers, something very disturbing is going on.

      Unless you’re walking around with your eyes closed (like most of the
      population) you can’t fail to be shocked, appalled and terrified by what’s going on there.

      This video explains it all. It is promotional material however you should pay attention to the content (copy and paste to your address bar

      http://www.itsgoingtoendbadly.com

      • TIME

        Dear FR,
        We are deep with in a Police State and we have been for a long TIME now,
        Its just ~ now its Ugly Face is showing itself to anyone who dare look.
        So Part one of your thinking needs a slight adjustment, that’s not an insult its just what it is, a solid provable fact.
        When did SWAT start up again? And who was it who started SWAT, a police chief from LA perhaps?
        What mind set did he have again? A follower of Lucifer.
        Peace and Love.

        • Vis Fac

          SWAT was indeed started in the 70’s in Los Angeles CA it has never gone away. The government is outfitting local police departments across the nation to enforce federal law thus the militarization of the police.
          Police are armed with night vision armored personnel carriers Barrett .50 Cal BMG Sniper rifles and Air support with FLIR as well as drones.
          One SHOULD question WHY all this firepower is needed to “keep the peace” (at one time the police were called peace officers) and why do they train for assaulting the public.
          The apathetic population sat quietly and let it happen believing they would never be the target. Surprise you are you just don’t realize it.
          Semper-Fi

  • Sarah417

    The Tea Party is aching for a true leader. A leader who will not waver from principles and the US Constitution. A bold leader.
    The RNC lead by Karl Rove and Prince Priebus was a mistake in 2012 and is a huge mistake now. I will not contribute one more dime to the RNC. That said, the GOP is making the same mistake. They just will not stick to conservative principles and the Constitution. They will not do what the American people want.
    A third party will emerge and we need a bold leader to lead us. Who will step up to the plate?
    It’s hard to know what Rand Paul is doing. Is he kissing a$$ because he wants to be president and do as he pleases once there or is he kissing a$$ because he wants to be one of them

    • marylou

      I agree to a point……
      Never a sure to lose third party but a REPUBLICAN party following the Constitution and Republican principles!

  • Bill

    Rand Paul has my vote.

    • Bill

      I also like Jesse Ventura as his running mate

      • Doc Sarvis

        Looks like a PERFECT combination to me. HA!

  • vongoh

    I’m about fed up with people in the liberty movement trashing on Rand. Your obsession with perfection and microscopic nit-picking of every single thing coming from the ONLY people even remotely on our side is rather pathetic.

    I say this from long observation and participation: Plenty of you are either libertarian ideologues that hold anyone in the political realm to impossible standards, and / OR: you are anarchist who believe its both practical and possible to abolish government entirely.

    These do not represent the vast majority of us who are PRAYING for politicians like Rand, Amash, Cruz and Lee to gain a groundswell of support to pull this country (and the planet) back from the edge of the cliff before it’s entirely too late … if we’re not already over the edge of it.

    You would have him either be an anarchist (which he is not) … or you want him to be a carbon copy of his Dad. Regardless of the very clear fact that distancing himself from his Dad in key areas and playing the Game is the ONLY chance in hell he will have a chance of carrying a wave of popular support to win the Presidency.

    I love your site and this is one of my favorite daily blogs. But I’ve seen this point of view elsewhere and this is where we part.

    I want a restoration of the Republic through fidelity to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. That’s what Rands dad wants. That’s what most of the people that followed his dad wanted. And that’s what I want.

    If you want some ideal utopian anarchy: We are not on the same team

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear vongoh,

      I’m sure you don’t realize it, but your comment contains contradictions and fallacies.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • vongoh

        Feel free to point them out.

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear vongoh,

          Gladly.

          You write: “Plenty of you are either libertarian ideologues that hold anyone in the political realm to impossible standards, and / OR: you are anarchist who believe its both practical and possible to abolish government entirely.” Bifurcation fallacy.

          You write: “You would have him either be an anarchist (which he is not) … or you want him to be a carbon copy of his Dad.” Bifurcation fallacy. Actually, I would have him be a carbon copy of his dad, the only statesman in U.S. government in the last 20 years.

          You write: “These do not represent the vast majority of us who are PRAYING for politicians like Rand, Amash, Cruz and Lee to gain a groundswell of support to pull this country (and the planet) back from the edge of the cliff before it’s entirely too late … if we’re not already over the edge of it.” Then you write: “I want a restoration of the Republic through fidelity to the Constitution and Bill of Rights. That’s what Rands dad wants. That’s what most of the people that followed his dad wanted. And that’s what I want.” The point of my article is that Rand is not like his dad and is willing to compromise on principle in order to cozy up to the establishment. Ron Paul is a libertarian. Rand Paul talks of libertarian republicanism. The adjective qualifies his libertarianism. He’s trying to separate himself from his dad and all the ‘whacko birds” who believe in liberty and is essentially going along to get along. A contradiction. Actually, Cruz and Lee are closer to Ron Paul libertarianism than is Rand.

          You write: ” Regardless of the very clear fact that distancing himself from his Dad in key areas and playing the Game is the ONLY chance in hell he will have a chance of carrying a wave of popular support to win the Presidency.” Then you write: “I want a restoration of the Republic through fidelity to the Constitution and Bill of Rights.” Compromising on principle will not get you there. A contradiction.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • vongoh

            First let me say that when I post to the typical blog thread, I’m not necessarily shooting for absolute precision and clarity. They’re usually quick statements of opinion or position – there’s normally limited value and return on time and effort to give them more.

            So re: the bifurcation fallacies – they were not ‘logical statements’ to be parsed. Read them as “In my opinion, I have found that people with your particular point of view on Rand TEND to fall into two camps”, not “There can only be two Sets of people that align with your particular point of view on Rand Paul, and no other Sets are possible”

            But I think you probably gathered most of that already.

            Second, I think that you – and others that have the same issues with Rand – are operating under some serious fallacies of your own.

            I love Ron Paul. I contributed to his campaign, I talked to everyone remotely within my sphere of influence, I am a long term poster and daily contributor to the Daily Paul, I’m a member of CFL and I read his blogs and RPI on a regular basis.

            I feel (sincerely) a deep affection and admiration for the man, his life, and his works. He is one of those rare individuals that have touched hearts and minds in a way that changes lives, changes destinies.

            However none of that was or would have been enough to win him the Presidency. The people of America have been conditioned by a lifetime of programming, indoctrination and manipulation to champion Lies and reject Truth.

            And the wolves, vipers and thieves that have used centralization of power and mass media technology to seize the reigns of power are far in the majority on the Beltway and associated forces. It’s dark times.

            If rock solid integrity, openness in all things, intellectual honesty and a humble sincerity were enough to cut though all of that … all of the swarming jackals, and liars, and criminal insanity that have infested our once profound and shining Republic … then he might have had a chance.

            But all of that we love and cherish is not enough to climb through the cesspool to get into the Big Seat and yank the ship around. The approach must be appropriate to the Times.

            To win the Presidency one needs to work with What Is.

            In this era one needs to be less Buddha, and more Sun Tzu.

            Simply: I believe Rand is sincere. I believe he has integrity. I believe he will work his hardest to restore the Republic, as hard as his dad did.

            I believe about some of the things that you take issue with him on, are the very things that he is not showing all of his cards on, and they are the very things that are wining him an exponentially broader base and popular support than his dad ever had.

            I believe the Doctor is Budda. But Rand is Sun Tzu.

            I dont believe I’m going to change your mind about any of this. But for what it’s worth and for the record, that’s my clarification.

            “The Perfect is the Enemy of the Good” – anon

            “Gotta know when to Hold Em … and know when to Fold Em” – Willy Nelson

  • Tim

    Are there any 2014 or 2016 potential candidates on this thread? All I see is a lot of talk and not as much action. There sure are a lot of perfectionists in the liberty movement. I realize the situation is bleak and time is limited, but the progressive-neocon agenda must be peeled back incrementally just as it was layered on our society over the last 100 years. The country is not morally ready for your perfectionist libertarian utopia.

    And Mr. Livingston, you say the word “Zionist” like it’s a racial epithet. That’s despicable. Israel is our only true ally in the Middle East, and I EXPECT Rand Paul to deepen his own relationships with their leaders rather than ignore or undermine them like the Democrats.

    • http://betamaxmas.com/ Major Domo

      I have noticed an increase in racial slurs as of late. The “zionist” slur is one of them. I can’t help but think that due to the internet being global, our blogs are being invaded by anti-semitic denizens. This is usually not indicative of U.S. attitudes.

    • Jimmy the Greek

      If You beleave that i have land to sell you ! Israel is no ones Frend , They well kick AMERICA under the bus after they milk us out , Google The Uss Liberty , Look what the zionest did to germany after WW-1 , look at what the wall street bankers are doing to america , Look at all the zionest in our own goverment ,

  • zonkedout1

    I’m a Wyomingite that long ago had written Enzi off as the ‘old guard’ and only vote for him because the alternatives are worse. Now, another big government ‘old guard’ regime Cheney rises to challenge him, at which point i will vote against her unless she throws old ‘dad’ under the bus for his NSA opinions. In short, pandering to the Enzi faction won’t win my vote.

  • marylou

    When is the EStABLISHMENT RNC going to stop being stupid and destroying
    Republican candidates and leaving the field open for incompetent spending Democrats.
    I, for one, have stopped donating to the RNC until and unless the ESTABLISHMENT gets their act together. I will put my donations to the TEA PARTY, CONSERVATIVES regardless of party.
    The RNC is irrelevant as far as conservatives and independents are concerned and will soon become extinct unless they get their act together and stop strong arming the PEOPLE’S candidates!

  • MexicansaysLibtardsRpukes

    Bob I disagree with your quote – CINO (conservative in name only) Senator John McCain recently called him a “wacko bird.” McShame is never a conservative, He is a Lib in a Repub checker pants! He is a LINO (Lib in name only!) That scum is nothing but a democrap agent!

  • Jimmy the Greek

    He could be playing up to the zionsts just to get the blessing then if he wins he can kick then to the curb , lol

    • http://betamaxmas.com/ Major Domo

      I want you to define Zionist for me. I am not interested in the dictionary definition. I want your definition Jimmy. I personally equate using a racial epithet like Zionist as being the same thing as anti-Semitic. Can you clear this up for me or am I right?

      • Jimmy the Greek

        You know the term Semitic covers a lot more than just jews , all the peoples that speek aribic are semtic Jews and muslems are of the same blood line Hebrew and aribic are in the same famley like spanish and italien , A jew is a arib turned inside out , and i don’t trust any of them , The Pershions are the only good ones out there . so take it for what it’s worth , and if you don’t like my spelling kiss my greek rear end , And also i have no use for isreal 1967 USS Liberty is just one reason . when they pulled that one is when we should have put a few nuks on them ,

        • http://betamaxmas.com/ Major Domo

          I think that clears it up for me.