Rand Paul Wants To Amend The Constitution To End Political Elitism

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Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has introduced a Constitutional amendment that would forbid Congress to pass any law that doesn’t apply equally to the American public, Congress, the Supreme Court and the Executive branch.

Paul’s proposed the Amendment due to contention over Obamacare provisions and an Office of Personnel management ruling which allow lawmakers and their aids to sign up for the Obamacare exchanges, as they are required to, while continuing to  receive Federal employer contributions to help pay for insurance on the exchanges.

Critics of the Federal employee loophole argue that providing hefty Federal contributions to lawmakers and their employees’ amounts to an exemption from Obamacare for Washington’s political class.

Paul’s proposal would add wording to the Constitution dictating that, “Congress shall make no law applicable to a citizen of the United States that is not equally applicable to Congress…

“Congress shall make no law applicable to a citizen of the United States that is not equally applicable to the executive branch of Government, including the President, Vice President, ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and all other officers of the United States, including those provided for under this Constitution and by law, and inferior officers to the President established by law…

“Congress shall make no law applicable to a citizen of the United States that is not equally applicable to judges of the Supreme Court of the United States, including the Chief Justice, and judges of such inferior courts as Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.”

In September, Paul announced that he was working on an Amendment mandating that Obamacare regulations apply to all branches of government—including the chief justice of the Supreme Court who helped to uphold the Constitutionality of Obamacare.

“My amendment says basically that everybody, including Justice Roberts — who seems to be such a fan of ‘Obamacare’ — gets it, too,” Paul told The Daily Caller at the time.

Paul’s proposal goes a step further from legislation proposed by Senator David Vitter (R-La.) to end subsidies for lawmakers and their employees.

The Kentucky Republican faces an uphill battle, however, as amending the Constitution requires super majorities in both chambers of Congress and must be ratified by the States.

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Sam Rolley

Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After covering community news and politics, Rolley took a position at Personal Liberty Media Group where could better hone his focus on his true passions: national politics and liberty issues. In his daily columns and reports, Rolley works to help readers understand which lies are perpetuated by the mainstream media and to stay on top of issues ignored by more conventional media outlets.

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  • Old Wolf

    Already have that amendment. It’s called the ‘attainder clause’.

    “We do not hold today that Congress cannot weed dangerous persons out of the labor movement, any more than the Court held in Lovett that subversives must be permitted to hold sensitive government positions. Rather, we make again the point made in Lovett: that Congress must accomplish such results by rules of general applicability. It cannot specify the people upon whom the sanction it prescribes is to be levied. Under our Constitution, Congress possesses full legislative authority, but the task of adjudication must be left to other tribunals. [p462]”

    Congress does not possess the power to target the law, and punishment may be accomplished by both inclusion into a disfavored group, or by exclusion from a favored group. The federalist 57 specified the inability of congress to accomplish targeted law, and the only exemption possible to apply to that, is in article 1, section 9, and the state legislatures bear the same limit under section 10.

    “I will add, as a fifth circumstance in the situation of the House of Representatives, restraining them from oppressive measures, that they can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as on the great mass of the society. This has always been deemed one of the strongest bonds by which human policy can connect the rulers and the people together. It creates between them that communion of interests and sympathy of sentiments, of which few governments have furnished examples; but without which every government degenerates into tyranny.” — Federalist 57.

    The attainder clause has been reinterpreted in modern years, under the excuse that laws by their very nature apply to different men differently… but the mandate is clear.

    “A British act of Parliament,” to cite the language of the Supreme Court of Kentucky, “might declare, that if certain individuals, or a class of individuals, failed to do a given act by a named day, they should be deemed to be, and treated as convicted felons or traitors. Such an act comes precisely within the definition of a bill of attainder, and the English courts would enforce it without indictment or trial by jury. [Footnote 8]”” — Cummings v Missouri.

    Such a punishment may inflict pecunary penalties, swell the public treasury, or many other things, less than mere death. Even with a trial involved, if the act or failure to act is prima facie evidence of guilt, the attainder clause may be invoked. All ex post facto laws, by their nature are bills of attainder, but not all bills of attainder are ex post facto.
    All targeted deprivations of rights, however, accomplished under law, are bills of attainder. The objective was to prevent a gentry class, or class of lords, outside of the law, or who could target the law at a whim, upon those whom they would destroy, or for their own benefit, to promote a general course of law, and to prevent legislators from laying traps for the unwary that they themselves were exempt from.

    • Chester

      Do wish the Supreme Court of the United States would agree with you. But, they have held that a law that is not designed as a punishment, but is supposed to be for the public good, can impose penalties upon a given class of individual, regardless of when the law was written, or when said individual attained membership in that class.

      • Old Wolf

        Yes, and these were the things that the Attainder clause was based on. If you read the case itself, it says that such clauses can be either civil, or criminal. These cases were tried in front of the supreme court, and such deprivations as property, the ability to engage in businesses, and many other things were also attainder.

        Unfortunately, the court itself has found advantage in defying the law, both in intention and in the original definitions.

  • Shorty Stuff

    Sorry, this will never happen. It makes sense, and there is none in Congress. Besides, you have to get Congress to vote for it, like that’s really going to happen!

    • chocopot

      Precisely. Those who would be most harmed/disadvantaged by it are those who would have to approve it. It will never happen…

  • BigGeezer

    a super majority in both houses… no big deal. WE THE PEOPLE must make it clearly known that any PUBLIC SERVANT who does not vote for this amendment will be VOTED OUT OF OFFICE. It is not that hard if we do our jobs as citizens. If everyone of us who visited this site would call each of our congressmen and write a letter to each within the next week… and forward this to everyone on our data bases asking the same we would start a title wave. WE THE PEOPLE must start making things happen for the sake of our once great country.

    • JRR

      I seem to recall a time when something like 97% of Americans making it very clear that we do not want most of Mexico admitted into the US. It hasn’t been passed yet (except in pieces through executive orders), but “our” legislators are still pushing it. They have not dropped it, as we have been demanding for many years.

      I don’t think they much care what we want. Once in a while, we get some kind of reaction from them, but more often they just try to make us seem like idiots for not wanting what they want.

      • BigGeezer

        you are right Elton… but what do we do? Nothing!!?? I can’t and won’t accept that. Patriots have given their lives for our great country… I think the least we can do is fight this uphill battle! Here is one of many sties to find your congressmen… please lets all get after this and make some noise!

        http://www.contactingthecongress.org/

      • ItsJo

        Your post is correct JRR- ALL Reps. do NOT listen to the people-
        in my above post, I wrote that ALL THE PEOPLE should determine that this is done-NOT our Representatives- WE should all have the right to make this law by our voting for it. Put it on ALL ballots, from the President, V.P., Cabinet, Czars, Fed.workers, anyone connect with public service, agencies, etal…
        We ALL VOTE TO HAVE THE WHOLE OF AMERICA ON THIS HEALTHPLAN…IF IT’S GOOD FOR US, THEN THEY ALL SHOULD SHARE IN THE GOODNESS OF IT. WE THE PEOPLE VOTE ON IT.

        • BigGeezer

          JO… I cannot agree with you about putting virtually anything on a ballot and asking the American populace to vote on it. Winston Chrichill said it best … ‘The best augment against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter’ (does obama re-elected strike fear and nausea to you). I know we share a love of our country… we worry deeply for our future … but democratic voting will destroy our great country even faster than the liberals are achieving now. I do agree that no-one has a right to an exception to obamamcare… especially the POS whose name is on this bill.

  • Ron r

    The ACA was ment primarily for those who did not have health care. It was never ment to do away with employer contributions. The time for republicans to fight that battle was when the law was being written. But because they were told by their leadership not to attend meetings , or have any part in the making of the law , they come up with b/s .

    • Barbara

      wrong, Ron.. if one had good healthcare we have to go on his garbage,, LISTEN HEED AND LEARN WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

      • Ron r

        I have good employee health care and do not have to nor have I been required to go on the site to change my coverage. Learn what you are talking about!!BTW have you been on the exchange site???

        • marylou

          You are so clueless….you can not speak for those in whose pond you are not swimming!

          You obviously have NOT been on the exchange site…why would you…..your insurance was not cancelled?

          You would talk out of the other side of your mouth if you received a notice in the mail that your insurance, which you were happy with, was cancelled due to ObamaCare regulations and you have to get insurance someplace else!

          Therefore you haven’t a clue what too many people have had to deal with….plus the fact that it is going to cost 100% more with a bigger deductible.

          Go away,………. unless you want me to hope that your insurance is cancelled so you can experience the pain along with the people you are criticizing!

          • Ron r

            First you have no clue of knowing if I’ve been on the site or not. Second you can not speak for those who have been helped by the ACA. Third you would have to prove to me that you have been kicked off your prior insurance brcause that is not what the plan is about last, I had a family member because they could not afford the type of health care you claim not to have now. She worked every day and had a strong Mortage even though she was a temp.

          • SavaDude

            Interestingly, not even Sibileus can tell us how many people the ACA has helped.

          • Ron r

            Right now people are signing up , they have 6 months to sign up. But seems the states that offer it are doing pretty good in numbers. Lot of glitches , but will be worked out.

          • marylou

            You are really delusional….Obama will extend the sign up for the average citizen like he did for businesses, so the voters won’t find out how exorbitant the premiums are that they will pay….until after the 2014 election!

            People are NOT signing up EXCEPT for those with expensive preexisting conditions. Unless healthy people sign up to SUBSIDIZE the unhealthy…it can not survive…And the healthy will pay the cheap penalty and NOT sign up unless they get very sick….then they will sign!

          • marylou

            Process of deduction, my dear Watson.

            1. Your own words state that you have not been on the site!…..”do not have to nor have I been required to go on the site to change my coverage.”

            2. No one has been helped by OBAMACARE since it is not up and running for this year! Where have you been hiding?

            3.You are so clueless…hundreds of thousands of people have had their insurance CANCELLED and/or rates raised 100% or more and/or the deductibles increased because it does not fit the ObamaCare regulations!

            4. Your family member will do NO better under ObamaCare..her deductible will be so high as to be worthless.

            5.She will do better with NO insurance and pay the ‘cheapo’ penalty, until she is sick or needs medical care…

            6.Then she can enroll and it will cover pre-existing conditions!! You got that?

            7.And they might even give her a rebate on the penalty she paid since she now has insurance. That’s the smart way, and it is the ONLY cheap and legal insurance most people will be able to afford!

            8.So..please just sit there and bask in your ignorance while your employer continues to subsidize your health insurance…… and pray you don’t lose your job!

          • Deerinwater

            Ah ! you are just saying that because it’s true marylou

          • marylou

            Of course it is :-) Thanks for some sanity in a sea of insanity!
            But watch troll and Obama apologists Smilee and Ron come back with more totally clueless trash talk trying to refute the obvious!

          • Ron r

            My family member had a pre existing condition and died before Obama was in office. I could name thirdy people and. Your would not know one of them so what’s your point . But you can bet I have better information than the Hannity 6and Fox “News”

          • Rubygirl

            Ron, in all earnest, please list some of those who have been helped by the ACA? It is not even in full force yet. Just the pre-existing conditions and children covered up to age 26 (which is totally dumb).

            Why should marylou (or anyone) have to PROVE to you that she has lost her insurance?.

            And the last part of your post made no sense. If you had a family member who needed health care (not insurance); there are ways for her to get that health care!!

          • smilee

            Nobody loses their employer health insurance because of the Obamacare law and if you are being told that by your employer he is lying to you. That would be a decision made by your employer and no one else. The average premium increase is 4% so that is lie to, the lowest increase in years. Obamacare does not regulate deductibles, premiums or co-pays that is either the employer changing coverage or your their insurance company. . Go union then you to will have a say in it not just your employer dictating it to you..

          • marylou

            Please TRY to not be obtuse and disingenuous…
            Directly or indirectly OBAMA CARE caused the environment that causes insurance to be dropped, rates and deductibles to rise and force those who once had insurance to lose it.

            Of course employees do lose their insurance! They do because businesses are dropping insurance for part timers and making full timers part timers
            because they can’t afford the exorbitant rates…or they are paying the penalties instead…in order to stay in business!

            When you demand that Insurance companies take ALL at the same rate and have no cap on how much they have to pay out forever for everyone…you have people abusing the system because they can! Witness Medicare, Medicaid and SSI which will be bankrupt shortly..or don’t you get that either?

            Even you should be able to understand that!
            After you’ve crashed 10 cars through negligence on your part, your auto insurance can no longer afford you…same goes with health care!

            Then everyone is on the OBAMACARE exchange, the Insurance Co are out of business and we have socialized medicine which is the INTENT…but you are an Obama troll and apologist and you already know that!

            Projected Health Insurance Premium Increases by Stateobamacare.net/…health-insurance-premium-increases-by-state Cached
            Obamacare’s most onerous health insurance insurance regulations will directly cause health insurance premiums to skyrocket
            Find Your State: See How Much Obamacare Coverage Will Costblog.heritage.org/2013/10/16/how-much-will-obamacare… Cached
            Thanks to a new study from Heritage, you can quickly get a sense of the Obamacareprices hitting your state’s individual insurance market.
            Obamacare: Projected Premium Increases by Stateblog.heritage.org/2013/03/18/obamacare…increases-by-state Cached
            Many Obamacare advocates attempt to refute these premium increases by pointing toObamacare’s generous subsidy scheme. But as the Hoover Institution’s …
            Obamacare: Impact on States – The Heritage Foundationwww.heritage.org/…/2010/07/obamacare-impact-on-states Cached
            If implemented as enacted, Obamacare will impose significant new Medicaid costs onstates and constitute a major federal usurpation of long-standing state authority …
            Rate Shock: In California, Obamacare To Increase Individual …www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/05/30/rate-shock… Cached
            Last week, the state of California claimed that its version of Obamacare’s health insurance exchange would actually reduce premiums. “These rates are …

          • BigGeezer

            thank you marylou for providing facts for certain trolls and individuals who are here to spread lies and distortions fed them by obama and the dishonest dems. We have to keep speaking the truth… the lies from the left will be proven… but the dems are solidified in their approach… it is called DDL … deflect, distort… LIE!

          • marylou

            Thank you for being one of the informed and passing it along!

          • BigGeezer

            it’s really sad that our great country has diminished to having to deal with uninformed or simple liars like smilee… you present facts and he cowers and spews the lies that are taking us down. Really pathetic. We have to keep up the honest fight… it’s a steep hill to climb but we can’t dare lose this fight for our country.

          • smilee

            Boy the heritage foundation sure has indoctrinated you. They have been identified as the biggest liars and propaganda producers on Obamacare, so no truth there and they got even worse after DeMint took it over. Forbes is not much better.. National average is 4% increase Anyone who knows anything about insurance knows the bigger the pool the cheaper the cost and this is a major increase in pool size.. As long as this is your source of info you will never know the truth.Employers have complete control over their employment environment and there are some whom will use Obamcacre as their whipping boy when they shaft their employees and.they will blame it on Obamacare rather than take responsibility for their own actions..

          • BigGeezer

            smilee… you are simply a liar… you have NO FACTS… except what msnbc gives you and anyone with an ounce of integrity knows what msnbc represents.

          • smilee

            You are a big big liar as every word I said is true, few I have met are this ignorant of what this law is than you are, your so unreal..

          • BigGeezer

            national average increase is 60% to over 100%. Your 4% is a LIE! Deductibles start at $4,000 and go well over $12,000 for individuals and families… what poor person can/will pay that? Lower health care costs… that’s another LIE from you. ‘The bigger the pool the cheaper the cost’… not when those with preconditions are the majority of holders… costs will skyrocket as they are doing right now. Another LIE from you. ‘Employers are taking responsibility over their own actions’… they are forced to drop employees SO THAT THEY CAN STAY IN BUSINESS. You liberal fools just don’t understand America, free enterprise and the threat of bureaucrats and big government… so in place of logic and truth… you LIE! Go back and read marylou’s post… you might just learn something.

          • smilee

            The 4% is the average increase of all the states and each state reported that so if you believe that you also believe all 50 states lied.How stupid is that? The deductibles are set by the insurance companies and their are many different deductibles and policies.Has been since long before Obamacare. That is a non issue with respect to Obamacare as it does not regulate them. Policies went up much much less than previous years and is the lowest increase in years.that is just fact which you ignore. The poor have not been able to afford insurance for years, now based on their income the gov will subsidize it so they now can.afford it so they now can get insurance so your argument there is just more bull. The employers. are not forced to make any changes and if they do it is their choice. There is no changes because of Obamacare so that is not the reason they cannot stay in business, I suppose it is a convenient excuse to cover up the real reason after all you are using it as a whipping boy to blame all you do not like on it instead of the real cause of what you do not like. You clearly do not understand this law, How did you become so brainwashed about it??

          • Ron r

            Not to mention that the heritage foundation was for individual mandate befor Obama was for it. Matter of fact then were for it when they fought. What the called Hillery care (universal health care) the ACA is here and it’s a law.if you don’t care for it vote.

          • smilee

            That is exactly true but Heritage foundation has also gone from conservstive to a far right tea party type organization since then and has become radicalized and Jim DeMint has been responible for a lot of that.

          • marylou

            Everyone knows that you are an Obama troll at work spewing disinformation.
            You are either paid troll or you have no life except this internet blog :-) Give it a rest…we all have your number!

          • Rubygirl

            Thanks, marylou, I posted the same also but you backed it up with links I didn’t have.

            I don’t understand why supporters of o/c cannot understand what the word “government subsidy” means!! It means, the taxpayer is picking up the balance or the entire premium!!! So basically, the “employee aka the worker/taxpayer is paying twice…higher premiums or loss of insurance and paying for someone else’s subsidy. If this wasn’t a fact, there wouldn’t be (at last count) 27 new taxes build into o/c and there wouldn’t be a reduction in Medicare to fund o/c.

          • Motov

            Don’t forget the cost of added bureaucrats!
            When government grabs something, it always ends up costing US more, and we get inferior service to boot!
            Kinda like the King Midas touch, But (emperor) Obozo’s touch always FUBARs everything,…..

          • marylou

            There is nothing more unintelligent than the product of our liberal schools…we have a generation of dumbed down voters who learned rewritten liberal lies passing for history and civics.

          • Rubygirl

            WRONG!! The insurance companies have to regulate their privately written policies to be in compliance with obamacare. The increase/changes to employer plans are making it more expensive for employers to offer it to their employees. Don’t know where you are getting your figures but the increases reported are much more than 4% and the deductibles are extreme. Yes, an employer has the right to offer or not offer his employees health insurance and that is HIS business decision to make. Employers are constantly searching for lower costs/better benefits for health insurance (called the free market) but now the market is being regulated (if not directly then indirectly) by the government.

            What o/c is doing is pricing the private policies out of the market. Just exactly WHO do you think is picking up the tab for o/c????

            With the exchange prices being quoted, people would be better off to just save the money in a tin can buried in the back yard so they can “pay as needed” for health care.

            o/c is NOT about health care; nobody is DENIED health care!

          • smilee

            True Obamacare has regulations and I never said otherwise and in addition state regulations, but Obama care does not regulate premium rates, co-pays or deductibles. The rate increases are the lowest they have been in years and employers can afford it but too many companies want you to believe that as cover for cutting costs, but it is not true,.each state reports its premium costs and that is where I got them from not from the heritage foundation inflated ones based on their own theories and not on fact. Your suggested solution are totally unworkable .and frankly a big big joke as they are not based on reality but on propaganda..

      • smilee

        There is little difference in the insurance polices on or off the exchanges whats is different is poor people will have premiums paid partly by the gov.otherwise they could not afford it but there is no such thing as Obamscare polices, the new regulations apply to all insurance polices and all are private insurance companies weather the insurance company sells on the exchange or not or sell on both. No one will lose their employer sponsored insurance unless your employer decides to drop it, a right he has always had. the Obamacare law has no requirement that require that. You seem to think they are different, why do you think that and if you do what do you think is different about them??

        • BigGeezer

          smilee … if you did any research you’d find there are HUGE DIFFERENCES in obamacare and private insurance. The biggest differences lie within the deductibles and level of care. obamacare deductibles are two-to-three times higher than most private policies… what poor person will pay a $8,000-$12,000 deductible while getting less coverage and limited choices? And employer’s dropping employees… you are clueless and dishonest if you claim it’s not because of obamacare. It is a direct response to the irresponsible democratic program that will destroy the quality health care that the world envies and many Americans take for granted.

          • smilee

            Boy are you ignorant of this law, big time. There are no Obamacare policies they never got into the lawll . All insurance polices are private insurance companies there are no government ones. Obamacare is insurance regulation only and it does not regulate premium rates, deductibles and co-pays they are all set by the insurance companies themselves as there are none. Your citing what does not exist and that is a big joke. You have bought into the far right propaganda and their lies and you post is sheer stupidity and none of it is factual.

          • BigGeezer

            I post FACTS… and you ramble. Post some facts if you want to engage in a debate.

          • smilee

            What facts, I have seen none, want to show us? How can you debate this law when you have no idea what it is or does??

          • CSN

            Insurance companies have to go with the Government mandate, and in order to do that, with what Government is dictating to them, they’re all going to raise their rates, unless you make poverty level income…period. This is Robin Hood Government Socialist Policy Mandate. Rob from the Middle Class and Richer Americans to give to the poor no working possibly drug addicted Americans. Why not just open Trade Schools, so people can learn to work at a Trade, make some money, and then buy some health insurance. Why not finance Non-Profit Hospitals, such as Providence Health Systems and others like them, who give free healthcare on a daily basis to people who don’t have insurance and who cannot afford insurance? It’s all about control. Government wants to control the people, and what better way than take all of their private medical records, earnings, etc. and give them to the IIRS, so Government can intrude more deeply into your personal lives, and tell you what you can eat, drink, what medications you may buy or allowed to buy, or what your schools should teach your children about perverts living in the world around them and accepting their unwholesome life styles as the new normal. Give me a break!

          • smilee

            “the poor no working possibly drug addicted Americans.”

            Statistics show they are no more drug addicted than any other income group, most are employed but underpaid and that is the real reason.

            Why not allow them to join unions without the hazzle filled. methods to join that we have today. When 35% were in the union there there was no need for subsidies for working people that started with Reagan and in the 90’s the GOP greatly increased these subsidies especially the earned income credits that are for working people only and very costly to all. Higher union wages would remove much of that saving the taxpayer bundles

            The government is not going to see your medical records and the IRS already has your earnings and and Obamavare wll only require you to show proof of insurance like you have to show for auto insurance which is a statement from you insurance company you have insurance but your medical records that is a lie.

            YOU SAY: “Government can intrude more deeply into your personal lives, and tell you what you can eat, drink, what medications you may buy or allowed to buy, or what your schools should teach your children about perverts living in the world around them and accepting their unwholesome life styles as the new normal. Give me a break!”

            Obamacare requires none of these and most are not part of any law but nothing in Obamacare does. You seem to be angry because you cannot control the behavior of other people.

          • CSN

            Unfortunately many poor are there because they cannot work for a living, making a decent living wage, due to alcohol dependancy, drug dependancy, and many employers take drug tests. You cannot verify that for certain.

            How can one join a Union nowadays? Most jobs are shipped overseas due to Unions imposing too much upon employers, who decided it was cheaper to ship out the work than pay the Union Scale Wages. Unions were a good thing before thugs took over. I’m not downing Unions. Many were started by Catholics who could not earn a living wage.

            ACA requires the IRS to look at your income, your insurance, and will get ahold of your health records, as Medicare knows everything Seniors get through their healthcare and can deny them anything they wish, if they are over their limit. Happens all of the time. I took care of both of my elderly parents until they died, so I’m no stranger to the methods of Medicare, even if they both had to buy additional HMO supplementation so they could get some proper medical treatment. I tried to keep them out of the hospital as much as I could, and that is why they never went over their limit, but many, many, many seniors went over their limit and were denied healthcare. Government rations healthcare. I don’t want Government telling me I can or cannot have treatment if I need it. Non-Profit Healthcare would work. We don’t need Government Mandates.

          • smilee

            I agree with your first paragraph.

            Companies were making big profits before they shipped jobs oversees and now their profits are obsene so it was not because of Unions but of greed and loss of good corporate citizenship which that greed also produced. You do not understand how unions work. Then they took some of their. lobbing power to get the government to create welfare programs galore for their employees that whom they replaced and were now working for real low wages and unable to make a living off them but with all these welfare’s for working people (which we had never had before Reagan signed the earned income credit law) and laws making it harder to join a union thus insuring slave labor wages for their employees in this country. Since Reagan signed the wage subidy earned income credit bill into law we have added child care subsidies. miuch more food stamps and now they are big time for working people, much more medicaid for working people, much more rent subsidies for working people. All these added costs to the taxpayer shifted from the employer to the taxpayer. Can you see how all this has saved companies big money when they were very profitable without these indirect subsifdies and now they make obsene profits, unions are the whipping boy for them and those who falsey accuse them of something they did not do.

            The ACA does not allow the IRS to look at your medical records and it has always looked at your income, You willl have to show proof of buyng health insurance which is only a statement from your insurance company that shows you have purchased insurance.

            Medicare cannot deny anything that is a covered epense unless they change the law and they cover more today than most insurance polices for the pre 65 group.so little there to bitch about. Medicare does not look at yor reorrd unless fraud is suspected or your claim is questioned for a valid reason. I have had medicare since 2006 and not once have they looked at any of my records. If you have an HMO it is not a supplement plan but a private plan under Medicare C and Medicare pays some of your premium but none of your medical expenses as they do in Medicare A & B, I have Medicare A & B and have had a fair amount of medical costs and between Medicare and my supplement plan I hve only paid for meds in the hosp emergency room in the amout of $114.00 of which my Medicare D plan refunded all but the dedutable so have had less than $50 out of. pocket in seven years. If you have Medicare A & B and suppliment it with supplement plan “F” you will rarely pay any out of pooket if you choose.the “F” plan. Minnnesota, Wisconsin and Mass. have different plans under a wavier the rest are all the same in the other 47 states..I have no idea what you are talking about when you say limits as medicare has no caps it is possible you are under a C plan that has limits but you did not have to choose such a plan. Medicare A & B does not have limits. There are numerous plans in Medicare C This can only happen in the private plans under Medicare C and agai.n that is what you chose but you did not have to. You really do not understand a lot of this

        • CSN

          Premiums paid by Government, after Taxes, so how will they pay 12 months out of the year, before taxes?

          • smilee

            I understand they will get monthly checks like SS does!

    • CSN

      Government funds Non-Profit Hospitals. They don’t need ObummerCare ACA at all. The poor can go to the Non-Profit Hospitals, of which Providence Healthcare System Hospital is one, and get some of the best healthcare in the nation, but now, they’ll probably be forced to shut their doors, unless they practice abortions. It is a travesty and a crime.

  • Elton J

    I wish there was a better way, but Rand is right.

    • Deerinwater

      Try as I may, ~ I really don’t see a “down side” in Rand Pauls proposal for the “people” while it will russel some feathers among a few.

  • junior shepard

    the only thing that GOP will vote on is their self a big paid raise!!

    • Born in ’42

      Yeah and they will be following the DemocRATS, who don’t negotiate. It is all of them that are the problem!!!!

    • SavaDude

      Thats IT?? Thats the best you’ve got?? Can’t chime in here with something other than a non-off topic issue?
      I was wondering where the usual Left Side Cheerleaders were in this thread. Pretty tough to find fault with this, so you say something stupid that has nothing to do with anything instead?
      I wish I could say I was shocked.

  • KennyLLC

    I like how John Stewart told Queen Sebellius to sign up for Obama care while he downloads every movie on the internet and said, just before a commercial break “We’ll see who gets done first.”

    • CSN

      LOL! I didn’t know he said that….

  • JRR

    Thank you, Rand Paul, even though the amendment will never be passed by the (mostly) thieves in both houses of Congress.

  • KennyLLC

    A 2013 Egyptian-style ouster would work. Then a panel of disabled Americans could vote in an interim government to make the amendment before the next primaries.

  • patsch13

    Indeed. All men are created equal–and should have to abide by and live under the same laws, UNLESS you’re a person elected to represent your constituents. Thank you Senator Paul for flushing out the hypocrites. Let’s see who really is interested in equality for all.

  • patsch13

    Indeed. All men are created equal–and should have to abide by and live under the same laws, UNLESS you’re a person elected to represent your constituents. Thank you Senator Paul for flushing out the hypocrites. Let’s see who really is interested in equality for all.

  • ItsJo

    Finally….someone has said what “we the people” want….ALL MEMBERS OF THE GOV’T FROM THE TOP DOWN, TO THE SCOTUS, AND ALL FED WORKERS GET THE SAME TYPE HC, THAT “we the people” have had thrust upon us.” The Potus, Obama proposed this, so he AND his family, V.P.Biden and his family members should ALL have to participate. Rand Paul, makes so much sense on this, they should leave it to the 2014 Election Vote and LET THE PEOPLE DECIDE. If it’s good enough for us, then THEY should ALL have to participate…”No More Perks, Pensions for those comitting gov’t crimes, and No More two homes to live in-You work in D.C., then Live There and Pay YOUR OWN expenses. Matter of fact, “ALL GOV’T HELD OFFICES, SHOULD BE AS THEY WERE INTENDED…VOLUNTEER FOR SERVICE TO THE PEOPLE-

  • Patriot47

    Why would you believe that any of the three branches, currently so fond of shredding the Constitution, would abide by any Amendment thereto that doesn’t benefit them?

    Or that a president who governs by fiat and executive order wouldn’t nullify it?

    Smoke and mirrors. We’re way past this being possible. They will push us until we push back.

  • scott miller

    I support this, i expect it to pass when pigs fly however. But at lest we will have people on record.

  • Chuckb

    What a joke, Rand Paul wants to make an amendment to the Constitution, hell, this President doesn’t abide by the one we have, so what would changing a part of it do. Barry would laugh. Furthermore , most of the States wouldn’t ratify it in the first place.
    You see what the RINO are doing to Cruz, so i guess Rand wants the same treatment.
    We have only one choice, and voting is not the answer, In order to change anything in DC would take a march on Washington by millions of people, then shutting this Government down until all the rats are cornered and shipped out,
    If we allow Amnesty for all the un documented Democrats, all will be lost anyway. Then King Barry would rule for as many terms as he likes.
    It doesn’t matter if the politicians are put in the same boat as we, they will still receive preferred benefits.
    If you want change, then you and I will have to change it on our own and it’s time.

    • The Crazy-Ass Moose

      We need a viable 3rd party, called “The Constitutional Libertarian Party” & we need it fast!!

      • Deerinwater

        How about just The Constitutional Party? less is more.

        • Moustache The First

          But, you usually defend OBOZO, you never abides by the Constitution!!!

          • Motov

            Maybe freedom talk is turning on a light inside of his head?,..
            One can only hope

        • CSN

          There is a Constitution Party and they are the conservative side of Libertarian Party. The Constitution Party of Oregon is a very good party, but unfortunately lacks money and energy. Wish people would spend more time doing and less time watching the darn Television.

  • smilee

    Why is it the far right tea party members in congress spend all their time and energy on issues that stand no chance of being accomplished and is not a major problem as opposed to things that are critical to address.and can be solved if they would cooperate with both democrats and republicans. The split in the GOP is becoming such a distraction to governing nothing is getting done..Many GOP are publicly expressing this to. The tea party seems to have a death wish for 14 & 16.

    • Rubygirl

      What “major” problems are you suggesting should be worked on? Maybe the budget, maybe spending cuts, border security, maybe enforcing the Laws of the Land?????? Great ideas!! But right now only the Dems are getting THEIR way; they refuse, along with obama, to work across the aisle.

      This issue may seem to be a futile action but that doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be approached…just maybe we will get the attention of the politicians so they will listen. The reason the GOP is divided is that we have those FEW in leadership positions who are too busy deal making to actually legislate for the good of the People. And frankly, they forget who their base really is!! Many laws are passed that do not come to the Peoples’ attention until it is too late. When added up, we end up with the Political Elites who sell their souls to the highest bidder!! And this applies to both Dems and Repubs!!!

      BTW, Tea Party members are not the “far right”. We are really the mainstream aka Conservatives. Maybe research what we stand for? Nothing radical or “far right” about it at all unless you consider the Constitution and Bill of Rights in that category.

      • CSN

        Ted Cruz said that if the Senate Republicans would have stuck to their guns as did the Congressional Republicans, we’d have had the deal in our hands. But NOOOOOOO, Mitch McConnell and Karl Rove, and John McCan’t wouldn’t have liked that, and so it ends.

        • smilee

          Nothing the GOP could do to win this under any circumstances, McConnell, McCain (Rove does not have a vote you should know that ) and 112 other GOP members understood that and saved the country from disaster and Cruz and jerks from themselves who know not what they were doing nor do you. You should be thanking them from all the pain they prevented you from.

          • John1943

            I did not know there were more than 112 GOP members in the Senate!

          • smilee

            CONGRESS: 28 in the senate including McCain and McConnal and 85 in the house so that is 112 plus them withch makes 114.total, Both houses had to vote on it you know and there are GOP members in both houses, Is that really so hard to understand?..

      • smilee

        What major problems, WOW, what are you Rip Van Winkle and slept though everything. ROAD AND BRIDGE REPAIRS and replacement, WATER AND SEWER LINE REPLACEMENTS,TREATMENT PLANTS, ELECTRIC GRID CHANGES,AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IN BAD NEED OF REPAIR OR REPLACEMENT ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, MEDICARE, SS, TAX REFORM AND ON AND ON. But the tea party ignores all this. In the last 9 months in my area alone we have had 5 major water main breaks of 100 year old pipes (12″ to 36 ” dia) that cost several million dollars each in losses and repair costs and it is happening all over the country. These are temporary costs so they are wasted money. Many of these infrastructures are over 100 years old and are being ignored when in the recession jobs galore could have been created to fix them at a time interest rates were real low, contractors bidding real low as they had no work, Bargain basement prices and because they are ignored them we will pay dearly when in crisis when they cannot function at all, opportunities galore ignored. There is nothing conservative about the tea party or the far right and you may think the tea party is not far right but you can get no further right than they, are. In the country you are a minority just big enough to muck everything up but far to small to control and if you were not Obama would not be president and the Senate would not be controlled by democrats. The tea party is very destructive for the country and the sad part is they do see that reality, they are a bunch of mad bullies in denial of reality..You hate government so you want to see it destroyed and fool yourselves. Government is not the problem the tea party is. WAKE UP!!

        • Robert Messmer

          Most of what you are yelling about are not Federal issues, they are State issues. But let us assume for the moment that they are all Federal, how many of them have been put on the table by Obama or the Democrats? None is the answer. There have been zero tax reform efforts by the Democrats, in fact they thanks to Obamacare just complicated the tax system more. Obama’s idea of energy is to give millions of tax payer dollars to his buddies “green” plans which have had no successes to date. You can not co-operate and reach a bi-partisan decision when the White House and Senate Majority Leader says “We will not negotiate.”

        • Rubygirl

          You are getting your facts wrong. We’re just tired of obama yapping about “shovel ready jobs” and even he finally had to admit there were one.

          First, the Stimulus bill that was passed should have gone straight to rebuilding our infrastructures but it was thrown away on unworkable “green” projects and mostly ended up in cronies’ pockets. There was one section near my home less than a quarter mile repaved!! The sign promoting the Reinvestment Act was almost as big as the area redone. The rest of the street was left undone. It was nothing but a joke!!

          You need to go to some Tea Party meetings because you are listening to the MSM. We are “small government” believe in the Federal Government only doing what it is allowed to do under the Constitution and against Waste, Fraud and Abuse in D.C. Plus all the back room deals and lying to the American People. We want our elected officials to be representatives of the PEOPLE not special interests or to further their careers.

          So where you get the notion that the Tea Party is far right is beyond me. Maybe you are putting us on the graph in comparison to the Moderates who are now really the Liberal Left. We are also very tired of the Liberals and MSM calling us names that are untrue. The only thing liberals have going for them is to call us names and lie about what we believe in.

          We believe in freedom and liberty to make our own decisions without the Federal government sticking it’s nose in everything. We are being over-taxes, over-regulated and every day the government is trying to control us more!!

          Our Congress and the obama administration is spending us in so much debt that my newly born great-grandbaby will never pay it off!! If Liberals can’t see that we need to stop spending and that the Federal Government needs to go back to the Constitution as it’s Law of the Land, then YOU are responsible for the mess we are living our children and future generations.

    • CSN

      The GOP Elite are a Death Wish to America. We’ll take our chances in 2014 and 2016 by moving the party to the right of “Truth” and “Justice for All”, not just for what gets them the most votes from illegal aliens. Talk about a disconnect….do the Democrats even know what the heck they’re talking about when they tell Americans they’ll pay less for insurance, when, in fact, the Middle Class Americans will be paying double? Give me a break….throw it out, or throw them out.

      • smilee

        You cannot prove that lie as it simply is not true, It will prove to be better than what we have had before but it is only the first step in the right direction so more changes will have to be made as we go along and in perfecting it. Believing in lies solves nothing you would be well advised to abandon that wrong way

        • John1943

          The lie is that no one will have to pay more for insurance. Haven’t you read anything about the premiums being quoted on the Obamacare website?

          Just one example, there are many on the web.

          http://personalliberty.com/2013/10/22/expensive-obamacare-website-crashed-purposely-to-hide-expensive-obamacare-plans/

          “Later in the article he continued: “A Manhattan Institute analysis I helped conduct found that, on average, the cheapest plan offered in a given state, under Obamacare, will be 99 percent more expensive for men, and 62 percent more expensive for women, than the cheapest plan offered under the old system. And those disparities are even wider for healthy people.”

          • smilee

            The site you quote is an agenda site opposed to Obamacare and filled with inaccurate info. I got my figures from the reports the state commerce depts released,based on actual rates not theories so I got it from the horses mouth so to speak.so i have to ignore all your inaccurate info which you got from propaganda sites and they are lots of them out there. Beware them!!

          • John1943

            But the Government keeps telling us that it is much too early to issue figures and they won’t be available for at least three more weeks. But if you wan’t to believe what Obama is saying, as opposed to the multitude of sites (and even including some normally left wing media sites) saying the opposite, then be my guest.

          • smilee

            It is far to early to make any conclusions and the only conclusion that counts is the one in the end that shows if it works or not and there is noting yet that indicates that what is wrong cannot be fixed but it produces a lot of hot air especially those hell bent on destroying it. Websites when medicare was put on line with Medicare C & D it to had a lot of glitches and it took some time to work the glitches out but since they have worked just great and I’m sure this will be the end result here to.

          • John1943

            Yes, keep drinking the Kool Aid and everything will be fine.

            Just like everything else Obama has touched.

            NOT.

          • smilee

            I see you run out of anything intelligent to say

          • John1943

            Just replying in kind.

          • Motov

            Unless you mean the acronym of FINE,…LOL

            F**ked up,.. Insecure,..Neurotic,.. and,..Emotional

          • John1943

            :)

          • Robert Messmer

            They had 3 and 1/2 years to work on the website for ACA. It was signed into law March 2010 and didn’t go on line until 1 Oct 2013.

            But why not do your own experiment? Check with an insurance company of your choice. Ask what it would cost for a completely healthy individual who has never smoked to get coverage. Then ask what it would cost for someone who is/was a 3 pack a day smoker, morbidly obese, with diabetes, history of heart attacks? Then compare the two costs.

            Now, as of 1 January 2014 if an insurance company wishes to continue doing business they can not refuse to issue a policy to that second individual AND they can not charge them more for a policy than they charge the completely healthy non-smoker. So that means one thing is going to happen–the healthy person/people will be charged what the sick people would be charged.

        • ibn isha

          What are those lies and please give your verifiable truths?

          • smilee

            He say the middle class wil pay double and all the figures
            es released by the states ays 4% average increase over the nation some when up some actually went down

    • Motov

      “cooperate with the democrats”? Democrats define “cooperate” as our way,..or the highway!

      • smilee

        You cannot blame the republican stupidity on the democrats..They own that .

        • Motov

          Vice-versa is also very true and more frequent

        • Merle Dickey

          Why are you on here? I am just going to skim over yur comments when I see your name. Self centered , my way or the highway, should be your name.

        • Scott

          Well said – Now we just need to get rid of the McCain’s and Boehner’s to eliminate the stupidity

    • John1943

      You sound like a very young, very naive, person. “Why can’t we all get together!”

      Many of us that won’t fall in line with the GOP leadership think that the GOP leadership is out of line (and should either resign or join the Democrat party) and that the Tea Party is the only hope for the future of the conservative movement..

      The day the Tea Party decides to cooperate completely with the current GOP leadership, let alone the Democrats, is the day I register as Independent (or maybe LIbertarian).

      • smilee

        First you say “Why can’t we all get together!” then you go on and give us many reasons why you and the tea party refuse to get together. By the way I’m a senior Citizen and former republican and left the party when you and your radical friends invaded it and now you are so divided that the democrats are less your opposition than many in your own party

        • John1943

          Apparently you did not realize that I wasn’t saying “why can’t we all get together?” I was suggesting that that was what you seemed to be saying, Kind of a John Lennon/Paul McCartney naivety – a “Let’s teach the world to sing in harmony” type of attitude. or “Let’s have a cup of tea and talk it out.”

          I too am a senior citizen and I have been a Republican for a long, long time. It was not me and others like me invading the Republicans, it was the Republicans such as McCain and Boehner leaving what I believe are the roots of the party. Apparently you left too, so you aren’t really the best person to apparently be suggesting that the senior Republicans are on the right track,

          And the Democrats are most definitely the main opposition. But the assistance given to them by certain RINOS makes them a major obstacle to true conservative values.

          • smilee

            I did not leave because of McCain or Boehner or those like them as they and those like them are the only ones that still have some common sense in the party and it was these who in the end on the shutdown who finally put the brakes on the out of line childish tactics of Cruz and his brotherhood. I believe in getting together but with Cruz and his brotherhood that is not possible as long as they persist on being bullies. and you can never get together with bullies and solve anything that is like trying to control a hurricane. I left the GOP when I was 54 or more like pushed out as many where and many joined the democrats. Here in MN the GOP voted to throw out former GOP Governors , Senators and US Representative because they objected to the direction the party was going, they were Quie, Carlson, Durenburger and Ramstad. and that attitude now pervades the party making any cooperation impossible with them as long as that is their attitude, You may not have been one that physically invaded the party but you are a part of the gang now so certainly you are in on it. Your destroying the party and I’m sure you do not understand what you are doing. Destroying the party may also destroy the country.

          • John1943

            I think we differ completely on the meaning of “common sense” and also of the word “bullying.” And, IMHO and others, the party is destroying itself, and it is only Cruz and Paul that stand any chance of a recovery. Clearly we live in different universes.

            Giving in to Obama’s every whim certainly is not going to save the country.

          • smilee

            Bulling and common sense is just that, there are not two meanings to it. Cruz,,Paul, Lee, Bachmann and others do not have common sense so they are using bulling and would destroy the counrty if they ever got the power to do so, as yet they only have enough power to muck it up. You clearly are blind to this reality and I feel sorry for your blindness.. .

          • John1943

            I’m certainly blind to YOUR inverted reality, but I’m quite happy without your sorrow, better save it for when you wake up and smell the KoolAid,

          • smilee

            All out of anything iintelligent aren’t you!!

          • John1943

            Not at all, just tired of sharing it with Obama trolls.

          • smilee

            It is just a cowards way of saying you are incapable of rebutting my factual post so you punt and run.

          • John1943

            Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.

          • smilee

            Please do not think of me as your dear, you would be way out of your league,

          • John1943

            I guess you are out of your league on movie references as well. It figures.

          • Robert Messmer

            No facts in your post just your opinion.

          • Scott

            Right on 1943

    • ibn isha

      Just in case you are on the face of this earth for not too long there is a thing called principles. Throughout human history people have given their lives for it. For those people shutting government for few lousy days is nothing. Getting together is how we have become a tyrannical nation where we have two set of rules, one for the public and one for the ruling elites. Politicians (well, almost all of them), who have no principles, got along with each other and have been destroying our nation in every way possible. Our morals, ethics and principles about everything have changed so much that we do not resemble even to America of only 50 years ago.

      But if I am wrong and you have been around for too long then you have not learned anything. You too have no principles. Just get along and in the end give me my Social Security check and send the bill to my grandchildren.

      • smilee

        You completely ignored by post and responde to ??? You are wrong that is very clear as you seem to have no idea what you are talking about!

        • Robert Messmer

          No ibn isha did not ignore your post. You asked, “Why is it the far right tea party members in congress spend all their time and energy on issues that stand no chance of being accomplished”. That was the only question you asked and the answer given was, “Just in case you are on the face of this earth for not too long there is a thing called PRINCIPLES (emphasis mine).”

    • Scott

      I’ll give you an example – I’ll be 50 this year and about 10 years ago, I was just floating along in life. Never really concerned with politics, as it never really effected the things that mattered to me ( yeah – selfish ) I voted for whomever had the best schpeel – Now that my kids are going to be in the workforce soon and see all the BS happening to this country – I’m concerned, I’m mad, and more involved. – What Paul and Cruz are doing is important as it creates awareness and draws people like myself into the fold. One man can’t do it alone – We the people can. I still say term limits are needed – Its the only way to get real people who aren’t bought out in office

      • smilee

        Paul and Cruz are creating awareness I agree but that awareness is to all lies and a fantasy and I’m sorry your blind to that reality and have joined in their destructive behavior based on lies.

      • Scott

        I’m unaware of any lies you speak of – I’m sure many of us are waiting for you to set us straight – thier only faults that I can see are an all or nothing approach. Time will set that straight. I can’t believe you would even defend McCan’t and Boehner – Neither has done Jack for the party in recent years and I’m sorry – You can blame that on the Tea Party – Wishfull thinking. You sound like a smart guy – Politics are about give and take to get what you want – Problem is neither of these posers gets us anything in return for caving on major issues – Please enlighten us

  • Nutsy Numb-Nuts Newton

    I say to you, Rand, keep fighting the good fight, through all the corruption, lawlessness & cynicism….Cruz, Paul, Lee, Coburn & maybe 2 or 3 others is all we got of integrity in the whole darn cesspool!!

    • ItsJo

      Your post is so very true. Sad, but true.

  • bob

    Those who vote against it should be voted out of office.

    • CSN

      How about tar and feathered.

    • Jim Read

      Won’t happen bob, they get free postage so their campaign starts sending out “Newsletters” with their picture and name all over it saying what they want not the truth and hence they are the best known name on the ballot for the voting idiots who know nothing about the candidate and they are re-elected.

  • Motov

    It won’t pass,.. it is like the balance the budget amendment.
    So with that being typed,..I would love to toss in some more ideas that the public wants, but politicians won’t dare do.

    Let’s strip the politicians from their self voted “retirement package” that makes Social Security look like a joke. Take that funding, and place it into SS.
    Then make them use the same system, the rest of us have to.
    They will be subjected to the same penalties, interests earned etc.
    Also for their wage increase will be up to them in terms of how much they spend. If they spend a deficit,.. NO raise, If they manage a surplus then they get a cost of living increase.

    • Robert Messmer

      Actually while ‘balanced budget amendments’ work for individual states, it would not work for the Federal Government. Think about it like so–during the great depression, revenues flowing to the government was down and under a balanced budget amendment that would mean the government would not be allowed to set up CCC or WPA, it would mean NO aid to those out of work. On the other hand when times are good and the economy is booming, lots and lots of revenue going to the government under a balanced budget amendment the government would be required to spend lots and lots of money. Which would overstimulate the economy and cause even more trouble.

      Besides which, really you expect a “balance budget” from people who spend millions and millions of dollars to get a job that lasts from 2 – 6 years and only pays hundreds of thousands? I know some sharpie will say “but its not their money they spend to get the jobs”. True, but its not their money in the budget either.

      • Motov

        Yes, but the great depression would have ended much sooner had FDR ran a tighter budget. What is wrong with stashing “a rainy day fund” when we have good times? Deficit spending is reckless when we are going through recession. Obozo has pushed us into a depression, and I fear we may never get out!

        • Robert Messmer

          There is nothing wrong with it although to hope that government will do so is wasted time. Under a “balanced budget amendment” not possible to stash away “a rainy day fund” since balance means you spend what comes in, nothing more and nothing less. You actually have to budget “savings” in order to have savings, you know like ordinary people and businesses do.

          • Motov

            Precisely the point

  • paendragon

    While he’s at it, let’s just FIX DEMOCRACY. Here’s how and why:

    It’s the idolatrous political “party” system itself which permits our otherwise public SERVANTS to indulge them selves in interest-conflicted divided loyalties, and so to metaphorically slip from the tethers of oversite we should be keeping them on.

    Unless we eliminate political parties, the salesmen in government will destroy the country.

    Politicians don’t represent the people – they only represent their parties. And their parties only represent those who pay them – who happen to be the exact same people for each party.

    So ALL politicians are only treasonous sales-puppets, foisted on us by their corporazi sales-masters. Their real job is to sell us all out by selling off our country to the highest bidders – usually by buying our enemies’ money to fund their own pet projects. The faster the turnover (more sales per minute) the more quick profits, even at low-low fire-sales prices. It’s a race to the bottom.

    So, let’s just FIX DEMOCRACY! And here’s how: If we just hold 2 quick, back-to-back elections each time (the first, as usual, to hire the worker’s pool of our Public SERVANTS from our districts, and the second where WE ALL appoint them DIRECTLY to their cabinet portfolio positions) then we eliminate their self-interested conflicts of loyalty-dividing political “parties,” (which always only “party” at our direct expense, anyway,) forever!

    ;-)

    GEORGE WASHINGTON WARNED ABOUT THESE PARASITES:

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/07/the-founding-fathers-tried-to-warn-us-about-the-threat-from-a-two-party-system.html

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2068315/posts

    http://politicalpartypooper.wordpress.com/2009/03/16/washington-warned-against-political-parties/

    http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/history-purpose/2012/mar/9/george-washington-warns-against-political-parties/

    http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/zr05z/til_george_washington_warned_that_forming

    • Anonymous

      For the last time, OUR COUNTRY IS NOT A DEMOCRACY!!!

      IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. LOOK IT UP.

      The government and the media are trying to SELL THIS LIE TO THE LOW/NO INFORMATION PUBLIC AT LARGE. A Democracy is MOB RULE. The example always given is “Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep, trying to decide what’s for lunch.”

      The sheep ALWAYS LOSES….

      http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/NotDemocracy.html

      PLEASE LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BEFORE, they steal our country from us for good.

      • ibn insha

        What do you expect when vast majority of people are ignorant of our nation’s founding principles? Even those who are aware of our founding principles do not actually believe in it. We keep blaming government for our ills yet we are the ones who elect corrupt politicians to office and we keep doing it election after election expecting different results. We actually elect our own tyrants. At least in Communism people do not elect their own dictator. We have nobody to blame but ourselves.

        • Robert Messmer

          “We have nobody to blame but ourselves” Yes and no to that, since we are dependent on media sources to vet the candidates, when they fail to do the job we have no information on which to base our choice. We are normally given a few choices to vote for within the party confines during the primaries. So when your “choice” is only between a pervert and an a drunk and one of those will be on the ballot for President—the results aren’t pretty. Don’t forget that participation within the party confines to determine which candidates the public will be allowed to choose from is limited greatly. As for third party candidates it is pretty hard for them to even get listed on the ballot of every state. In fact, it is hard for them to even be allowed to participate in Presidential Debates on television.

      • paendragon

        For the last time, just read what I actually posted before going all postal over your imagined differences of democracy and republic.

  • CSN

    What’s good for the Goose is good for the gander, so they say. Yes, by all means, pass that law, if you can.

  • Jeff Noncent

    I am with Rand Paul all the way and Ted Cruz we the people need to understand that we are a communist nation

  • Jim Read

    Nice thought but it will go NO WHERE. IF congress were to approve it, which they won’t, the states would approve it in record time BUT it will never make it out of the house of reps. Paul is asking the elites to drop their elite status which is like telling a starving person they can not touch the plate of food that is set in front of them. Hold your breath for this one folks, it sounds good but will never happen unless we the people physically go into Washington D C, throw out all of the bums in our government and replace them with plain ordinary people.

    • Robert Messmer

      Actually we don’t have to physically go to DC. In accordance with Article 5 of the Constitution all it takes is the application of the legislatures of several states (34 currently with 50 states in the union, 38 based on Obama’s “57 states”) and they have to hold a convention for proposing amendments. So, no neither John Boehner nor Harry Reid could prevent it coming to a vote. Then to actually be ratified it would take 3/4 of the states (38 for real, 43 for Obama’s 57 states).

      • Jim Read

        Just because it is brought to a vote doesn’t mean it would pass, the politicians will not pass something like that it takes away their elitist status, puts them on level ground with the people they are supposed to serve. Besides that how long has it been since you saw the congress abide by the Constitution? Here is another question for you to consider on your Constitutional convention, changes you don’t like could happen like an amendment repealing the 2nd amendment or the 5th or 14th or the 23rd. Just because you have a convention doesn’t mean the results are right it just means there will be changes and the people DO NOT GET TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENTS, it is the state legislatures who ratify.

  • Little_Tin_God

    Seriously?? Truly the nut doesn’t fall far from the tree!

  • Steve E

    If the power grids fail for a month or so, things should straighten themselves out.

  • mark

    Another grandstanding egoist. He will win a few presidential primaries in the yahoo states and then fade away into the political irrelevance of his father