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Public, Private Educators Have Differing Views Of Obama

March 9, 2012 by  

Public, Private Educators Have Differing Views Of Obama

A majority of college presidents, except for those in for-profit higher education, say they plan to vote for President Barack Obama this fall, despite the fact that most believe he has failed to deliver on higher education promises.

According to a survey conducted by USA Today’s Inside Higher Ed, 65.1 percent of college presidents say they plan to cast a vote for Obama this fall. Support for the President was strongest in public higher education with 75 percent at public doctoral and master’s institutions, 85 percent at public baccalaureate institutions and 66 percent at community colleges. The lowest level of support was in for-profit higher education, where only 29 percent of presidents said they plan to vote for Obama.

Responding to whether Obama has “fulfilled the promise that many in higher education” saw for him four years ago, only 36 percent of presidents answered yes. The figure was lowest in the for-profit sector with only 18 percent believing so. Private colleges have clashed with the Obama Administration several times in recent years over stifling Department of Education mandates.

USA Today contends that heavy support for Obama among public college presidents stems from a lack of a pro-education agenda among the Republican candidates. Only 10 percent of all college presidents believed that the Republican candidates have offered a higher education vision. Though nearly half, 44 percent, of presidents at for profit institutions believe that the Republicans have offered pro-education policy.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • s c

    People, here’s how to connect the dots. America’s colleges and universities are pampered beyond belief. An issue that some elected types love to throw at us is the idea that “SOME” don’t pay their fair share. The implication is that “SOME” have been able to get filthy rich at our expense and that it’s just not “FAIR.”
    Those who practice a form of cherry-picking ways to view things forget that colleges and universities in America DON’T pay TAXES. In effect, those schools don’t pay their “FAIR SHARE.” And, as long as certain Washington types want us to believe that a higher education is a “RIGHT,” then what this hypocrisy REALLY does is a) buy votes, b) let some friends get RICH and c) this administration does NOTHING to make see that JOBS will exist when students are ready to find JOBS.
    This is a CON GAME, people. It’s another fantasy episode from Uncle Scam. Can you GUESS why “SOME” educators plan to vote for a certain character from Chicago? Can you GUESS why even MORE people WON”T vote for a certain character from Chicago?
    Do the math. “Friends” are being BOUGHT with OUR money. Can you say fraud and theft and daily hypocrisy?
    If it doesn’t disgust you, maybe you’re getting some of that action, eh?

    • Warrior

      All trough feeders will follow the head pig. It’s in their best interest.

      • FreedomFighter

        Your U.S. Government Irony for Tuesday February 28, 2012.
        The SNAP/Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is pleased to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever.

        Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to “Please Do Not Feed The Animals.” This is because the animals may grow dependent on handouts and not learn to take care of themselves.

        Thus ends todays lesson in Government Irony.

        From an email

        Stop government socialism now even they know its bad.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

    • Sirian

      It’s way beyond disgusting s c. Isn’t it amazing how much money 99% of them are making? You’re right, they are getting richer and richer and they are harvesting more and more useful idiots to carry on their con. No wonder the politicians – either side – just love to support any college/university. They get quite a return on their political investment. . . :(

    • CJ

      Most surveys are worded to achieve a desired conclusion, and frequently lead the responder’s answer. I put little credit into the ‘results’ of any survey unless I can evaluate the questions for true neutrality. Never draw conclusions unless you know the WHOLE story.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Didn’t you like the survey done by the USA Today? It tells on Democrats/Lefties and where your beliefs go to.

    • Ellen

      Obama wants college to be ‘free’ so everyone will attend. Of course, ‘free’ means taxpayers will have to fund it. Of course, universities love this because it means more business for them. The truth is, we don’t appreciate what we get for free. Free college will dumb down college just as it has dumbed down K-12 education. If it costs money, you will work hard or your parents will stop paying. If you are paying for college yourself, you will work hard. Also, we don’t have enough jobs that require a college degree, so pushing more people to go to college doesn’t help anyone. Not all people are meant to go to college. As it is, only 37% of blacks who attend college actually graduate, even at Historically Black Colleges where they attend for free. The other 63% fail or drop out. Obviously, college wasn’t meant for them. Most people who go into education as a career are liberal, so the fact that most university presidents will vote for a liberal is obvious.

      • Thinking About

        We fund prisons so to assist those willing to attend colleges to obtain a higher degree and to have them work and pay taxes is better than adding more prisons and what do we get from the prisoners who get out, more in the welfare line. We can strive to achieve higher and have functioning individuals who may parent offspring to also do better. College more than likely is a win-win situation. Look at Ron Paul, where would he have been if it was not for his college education.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      What if all the squacking is not about money or education but the worldview, either through the eyes of Conservatives and Christians or Leftists/Socialists.
      There are stacks of guides upon guides to colleges and universities in the USA. If anyone wants an education they can get one either expensively or inexpensively. It doesn’t even matter if someone follows the path early or waits till they are older.
      In the meantime no one stops anyone from learning even if the things they learn are wrong.
      So this boils down to who you will choose as master.

  • Karolyn

    It’s pretty logical, since the Republican candidates have not even been talking about education.

    • Ellen

      Karolyn, Perhaps this is because the federal government needs to get out of education. Education costs have soared since the Dept. of Education was created. During the same time, the quality of our education system has greatly deteriorated. Add to that the fact that a large percentage of our school aged children live in poverty and poverty is the greatest predictor of school performance. For over a decade now, 40% of our kids have been born into poverty each year. The % now is closer to 50%. With so many poor children in our schools, is it any wonder standardized test scores have dropped? We can’t fix our education system until we stop the explosion of illegitmacy.

    • Vigilant

      Karolyn, this is from the USA Today article at http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/story/2012-03-08/college-presidents-vote-obama/53414704/1

      “Steve Gunderson, a former Republican congressman from Wisconsin and the new president of the Association of Private Sector Colleges and Universities, the chief lobbying group for for-profit colleges, says he too expected to hear more from the Republicans. But he cautions that the GOP candidate may not frame the issue as being about colleges. “For America to succeed economically, and for America to give everyone an equal opportunity, which are goals historically at the heart and soul of the Republican Party, you have to be willing to invest in education,” he says. “But I think the GOP may come more [at these issues] by talking about meeting the skilled workforce needs of the American business community.” For Republicans, a business-oriented approach to education is going to make more sense than going after “the higher education voting bloc, which is traditionally a Democratic voting bloc.”

  • http://personallibertydigest gottaplenty

    They will get educated if Obummer is back in office, but not for anyones good.

  • Con-derivativeNOT

    How typical…advocating against higher education you republicans are all muppets…just trying to keep the population in fear so they can consume more…btw Churches operate tax free; so why not universities? At least universities actually teach you science and facts….which are the enemy of the republican party!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      From reading your post, it does not appear that you have learned much. In writing socialist catch phrases and trying to make them sound like they were your own does not make you anything else but a follower or just a plain useful idiot.

    • s c

      Comrade ‘c,’ churches might as well be taxed. That way, when Uncle Scam tries to force American churches to bend to his ‘divine’ will, they’ll know exactly why they shouldn’t have invited “Caesar” into religion and be “blessed” with tax exemption.
      In the interim, TAX the crap out of American colleges and universities. I thought you utopian schtuppers loved to whiz and moan about people and groups that don’t pay their “fair share.” Sounds like we need to add UTTER, GALLOPING HYPOCRISY to the rest of your false credentials, comrade.
      Do you plan to stay behind the learning curve for the rest of your programmed life?

  • 2WarAbnVet

    You have to go all the way back to the upheaval of the mid-late ‘60s to understand how this situation came about. At that time many young men answered their nation’s call, and went off to an unpopular war. Others opposed that war, and wanted, instead, to smoke dope and experience free-love. They went into academia to avoid military service. They sought to justify their life decisions to every student passing through their classes. The college professors of today are the students of that period.

    • GRusling

      Good thinking, and you’re absolutely spot-on…

    • Kinetic1

      2WarAbnVet,
      Ah yes, those famous dope smoking, free loving draft dodgers of the 60s. Hows about we take a look at some of them. Dick Cheney took 5 deferments due to his “other priorities”. Dan Quale, who’s family money got him into the national guard and out of Viet Nam. John Ashcroft, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Paul Wolfowitz, George W. Bush, Tom DeLay, all of them ready to send our kids to war, but they had reasons not to go themselves. Maybe they were just following the lead of other great Republican Americans like Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and Donald Rumsfeld.

      So I guess we agree that we were led to the brink of ruin by a bunch of draft dodgers.

      • 2WarAbnVet

        Ah Kinetic, neither your litany of personal attacks nor your general BS refutes my originally stated premise.

      • Thinking About

        Point well taken, Kinetic, so very true.

  • hooder

    This shows how college professors are ignorant about the real world. They live in fantasy land of their college environment and teach their leftist liberal ways. Sad but true.

    • bsg

      Amen to that, plus they are under tremendous social pressure to fit into the university attitude of liberalism. When the local colleges call me for donations I tell them that I can no longer give to universities because they are the problem. The poor little freshmen girls on the phone generally can’t get their heads around the concept, but they will soon be turned into the feminazi’s that our universities produce.

  • Patriot007

    Everyone knows that deficit spending can’t continue indefinitely, so why not elect someone determined to spend until it runs out as long as they can remain in power? Liberals are Anti-American because they only care about is legislating Govt. subsidy even if the Country is at the brink of bankruptcy. Liberals give away tax-payer dollars and then get the credit, as though they dug-in deeply into their own pockets. They setup gold plated healthcare, retirement, and other plans to pave the way for their future. Obama is their chief Tax-dollar waster and like minded receivers want him back no matter how incompetent he has proven to be.

    • Thinking About

      So are you Ron Paul is a liberal? He was one of four republicans to add earmarks in 2010. Yes he went on record to vote against the bills which provided earmarks for his district but went home proudly to his district proclaiming “Oh, what a good boy am I”, still was money spent.

  • revnowwhilewecan

    I think it obviously proves that school officials are not concerned with education and a smarter youth movement. As long as they can continue to draw from the well, they are concerned (sadly, like most americans) only with their own agendas and do not care about any real “change”. SMH

    • Vigilant

      Correct!……and asking leftist university presidents who they will vote for is like asking the foxes in the chicken house what they’re having for dinner.

  • chuckb

    kinetic,
    i didn’t see one of those people you mentioned demonstrating against the u.s. in a foreign country (bill clinton) your hero, a confirmed draft dodger. barry soetoro, he didn’t even belong to the boy scouts, yet he apologized to the muslim world for what we stand for. he somewhere along the way dodged the draft or failed to register. even your senator kerry (who served in vietnam) lied about his duties in nam, then turned against his own when he testified in congress to a whole congress full of democratic draft dodgers.
    you bolshevik types have no room throwing out insults when you are the greater offenders.
    donald rumsfield was a naval officer, george bush was a pilot in the air force reserve, can barry soetoro fly a jet, hell no, he can;t fly a kite and probably never registered for the draft you talk about draft doidgers, you better look in the mirror. .

    • Thinking About

      George Bush was allowed to take other paths to avoid service in Viet Nam. He also did not complete his reserves as he should, refusal to undergo medical exam as required of pilots, and he managed to avoid the reports for duty but was able to get by with his neglect. Wonder how that was allowed to happen. Kerry was in Viet Nam, more that george.

      • 2WarAbnVet

        Right, ask any Vietnam vet what they think of “brother” Kerry.

      • chuckb

        not thinking, dan rather got fired for telling that fabrication about bush, of course that makes little difference to you bolsheviks. lets hear about your other left wing heroes’s, how about hanoi jane she’s one of your compatriots. how about clinton, that’s really a good story. you can go thru the bolshevik party and almost every other one was evading the draft.

  • Ronald Johnston

    It is not surprising that the college presidents would vote for osama obama! Who do you think hires all the yellow-bellied liberals to poison our kids minds?

  • JimH

    I guess “educated” doesn’t really mean wise.

  • Claire

    Education of course, is important, however, all college presidents, professors, deans and teachers are not superior, inspite of what they may think.Our Country is falling and our current government administration is corrup and has failed us all.

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS from Australia

    I cant see how anyone could be surprised with the findings really considering cuts in government expenditure to achieve tax cuts means less money for government funded institutions. Luckily this group are not representative of the vast majority of voters and there is no point wasting any debating time to try changing their minds…they are thinking to protect their own education empires.

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