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Presidential Show’n’Tell

June 25, 2011 by  

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • http://naver samurai

    Another good one Ben. Keep them coming. An ambulance bomb? That should be good for a few liberals. I hope they make many of them. One of Hillary’s former aides is now a porn star? Well, well, well, will wonders ever cease. Obama bin Laden wants to get us out of Afghanistan, just make it all of them and not just some of them. He screwed up Afghanistan, he’ll probably screw this up to. Just like he did at that certain Chicago club. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • wllharrington

      You forgot to ask if she trained under Bill.

      • Robert Hauser

        Monica Lewinsky tried the porn route too but they couldn’t fit her into a centerfold even with a panoramic lens….

        • Bud Tugly

          She is negotiating with 7-11 to be a spokesperson for The Big Gulp.

          • Norm

            Actually Monica has CHANGED her political affiliation. She said that “being a Democrat left a bad taste in her mouth”.

      • Dennis

        LMAO, under Bill :-), Now would that be Under Bill, or Under Bills desk ;-)

      • John

        Maybe she trained on top …

  • Raymond

    Great video.

  • Wayne937

    To tell you the truth, I think most governments, local, state and Federal are all screwed up, and corrupted in this day of age. New York passing the same sex marriage law is a good example. Where are all the decent people in that state? Why arn’t they raising hell with their representatives, and the Governor, or have they just accepted all the corruption and immoral values that representatives are succumbing to? Even though I don’t like it, I can accept same sex unions, but I will never accept same sex marriages. I do believe it to be against God’s will for two men to get married. I would never, repeat, never would vote for any representative of mine for any office if he/she would go along with this nonsense. Where are their values? I guess they have never been taught any moral values by their parents so therefore they don’t know any difference. A lot of the folks in legislatures, and law making bodies today are from the drug days of the 60′s crowd, better known as Flower Children. A lot of folks of that era do not have the moral values like the older folks had before them. It is very sad that the people in this country has succummed to such low moral and ethical values.

    • Karolyn

      Get a life, Wayne, and forget about what other people do in theirs! HOORAY NY!

      • coal miner

        RIGHT ON!

        • http://naver samurai

          Coal dungger and Karolyn are full of some very smelly stuff. If you all like what has happened in New York, then go there and get a same sex partner for yourselves. In fact, you can throw a party with your guests entering through the back door. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • JUKEBOX

        Karolyn, with more and more gays marrying and not reproducing, the aliens and other welfare recipients who are multiplying faster than rabbits will help Barak Alinsky put his destruction of our economy into effect. Have fun on the Socialist Welfare Plantation. The Roman Empire was destroyed by similar actions.

        • Dennis

          Amen brother amen.

      • joe

        Go away, troll! Good for NY, that bubbling cesspool. Its amorality will hasten its demise, just like Kalifornia.

        • eddie47d

          Jukebox; The Roman Empire collapsed because of it’s military Imperialism and global conquests. The same could be said of the Soviets in their expansionism and taking over sovereign nations. They both did enormous damage to other cultures,freedom and held their conquered nations as virtual slaves. They also collapsed financially by spreading their nations borders and their military too thinly. Will the USA be next?

          • Dennis

            Lets not leave out Germany, they also wanted to rule the world, Kinda sounds like Obama.

          • coal miner
          • JUKEBOX

            If you study Roman history in any detail, many of the Roman Senators and other leaders were deeply involved in homosexual activities, which debauchery contributed to their downfall in addition to their military overeach.

          • Dennis

            Hitler was also a fag, dam, that also sounds like Obama.

          • eddie47d

            That would make Eva Braun Hitler’s fagstress.

          • http://naver samurai

            Don’t forget that they left their moral ways and went to the ways we are now. You know, loss of morals and straying from our founding ways. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • christianrepublican

            What worries me about gay marriages is that when God decides to punish America for it sins, just like He did in Sodom and gomorrah, it includes everyone, not just the gays that plug their ears while us christians teach, warn, plead and talk till we are blue in the face about what will become of them if they don’t heed the warnings, you are punishing everyone in this country with your sins.

          • http://naver samurai

            Right on, Christian Republican. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • CJM

          I’ll believe in CAs ‘demise’ when it sinks into the ocean; in the meantime, it’s still there and sucking up taxpayer dollars to bail them out.

          • Wild Bill

            Obama has pushed the gay agenda since his administration began infesting the White House.I personally believe that he is a closet meat pole smoker and the “family” is just for show.He could very easily be one of the individuals involved in the following “ABC news story”,which is most likely an urban legend.But,then again,Obama is so narcissistic,arrogant and just plain stupid that he fits the profile of the two “rump rangers” to a “T”.Enjoy the short video,after all it is at the expense of,and directed at all the liberal trolls who seem to have infected this site as of late.Again,enjoy and have a good laugh.


            Wild Bill

      • Jay

        Yes Karolyn, HOORAY FOR NY, another one bites the dust. Only an empty -headed, bubble-head such as yourself, devoid of all morals, would cheer at such insanity! Do you not care that gays are dying by the millions, world wide? You truly are demonic!

        • Karolyn

          I think “demonic” is a little strong, Jay. More like “open minded” and “enlightened.”

          • Jay

            Enlightened? Yes, you are so enlightened and open-minded that you approve the slaughter of millions yet un-born, abortion, you are so enlightened that you approve a lethal lifestyle, homosexuality, that destroys and kills people, gays, by the millions. Enlightened indeed! Quite frankly, the homosexuals and the unborn will fare much better when enlightened and open minded people such as yourself will finally leave this planet. Then, humanity will express its joy with a resounding chorus of HOORAY FOR THE PLANET!!!

          • Dennis

            As i said, Worthless

          • Karolyn

            And what’s wrong with death? It’s just another chance for one to start all over via reincarnation. I am so glad to have the views I have! To live without fear of death and punishment is wonderful!

          • Kate8

            Karolyn – Like most liberals, the only things you are openminded toward are things which have always been considered immoral, depraved and sacrilege. You have nothing but contempt for things which are good, decent and moral.

            If that is what you call enlightenment, then I guess most of us here will just choose to be backward.

            Good grief.

          • moonbeam

            [Karolyn says:
            June 25, 2011 at 3:37 pm

            And what’s wrong with death? It’s just another chance for one to start all over via reincarnation. I am so glad to have the views I have! To live without fear of death and punishment is wonderful!]

            KAROLYN!!!!! You are DEFINITELY on the wrong path here, my friend. There is NO reincarnation!!!! You do NOT get to come back here to start all over again. Girl, READ YOUR BIBLE!!!! Reincarnation is a lie of the devil! You only come this way ONE TIME. That’s it, that’s all. Where did you get this from? Certainly not from God or His Word. Please, sit down and do some reading! I am more than happy to help you in any way I can. Good Lord! I wish I could speak to you privately. God will make a way if it is to be. Lord help me, or somebody close, like YOU, talk to her! PLEASE!

            God has already said it is for man to die ONCE! Then the judgement. I realize you are new to God’s family, but honey, you are on a path that does not belong to God.

          • CJM

            You don’t strike me as being open-minded OR enlightened; what you are is a paracitic thinker who goes along with rabble-rousing agendas.

          • Karolyn

            Kate said “Like most liberals, the only things you are openminded toward are things which have always been considered immoral, depraved and sacrilege. You have nothing but contempt for things which are good, decent and moral.”

            Wow, Kate, are you way off base! Where on earth did you get that idea! I think you’re going off the deep end here. I am a good, decent and moral person and have said nothing to prove otherwise. How is your perception so skewed? I have no problem with ANYBODY, Christian, Pagan or indifferent. My whole life people have loved me because I love them. If you only knew! (shaking head and chuckling) God bless YOU Kate! :-)

          • Karolyn

            Moonbeam – I’m sorry you read my post wrong, but thank you for caring. I’m just fine. I do believe in God but a different concept. God bless you. You are a good person.

          • Jay

            Karolyn:And what’s wrong with death? It’s just another chance for one to start all over via reincarnation. I am so glad to have the views I have! To live without fear of death and punishment is wonderful!

            Jay: I’m sure if the un-born and homosexuals were to read the your above statement, they would tell you to keep your misguided and perverted love for them to yourself! You live in a dungeon of hate and delusion!

          • eddie47d

            Kate; Would that be “backward” Christian soldiers marching as to war?

          • http://naver samurai

            I think more like loss of mind and morals sounds more correct in this situation. I think it’s time for another Great Awakening in this country. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Kate8

            Samurai – Brother, the Great Awakening IS happening.

            Don’t forget, though, that whatever God inspires, satan tries to counterfeit. Also remember that He says that the deception is so great, that even the elect would be deceived, if it were possible.

            The NewAge movement has penetrated our churches. It is very seductive, and many of them have joined forces with the NWO. For the past century, Pope’s have called for a one-word order. Now they are working on a world religion which, eventually, everyone must join or be put to death. The non-Catholic churches have followed suit, having been infiltrated and controlled through a stupid tax exemption. Not to mention that, in their desperation to draw membership, they have compromised God’s Word to appeal to a wide audience.

            Scripture says that the Way is Narrow, and few ever find it. So you know that if a movement has broad appeal, it is not The Way.

            “My sheep hear My Voice”. It is so easy for any of us to get caught up in things that seem to feel good and appeal to our sense of “inclusiveness”. The wolf wears sheep’s clothing, which means that it appears to be of Him. That’s why he gave His people discernment.

          • http://naver samurai

            True that, Kate8! True that! I just hope it’s as big and as inspiring as the first 2 Great Awakenings. This is also one reason for we patriots to fight to take back this country. Our Christian founding and our belief in God, Jesus, and the Bible. Of course the left wing extremists don’t want this, because its something they can’t control. No one can control God, but they act like they can. Keep up the good fight, Fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • christianrepublican

            Who has enlightened you, satan? I believe you have been brainwashed to think that being gay is normal. What is normal about it? Everything is abnormal about being gay. Even gay people know its not normal because if it was normal, after thousands of years of homosexuality going on, why would there still be people not comfortable with it? Because everyone knows deep down that there is something very wrong with being gay weither they admit it or not. Plain n simple.

          • http://naver samurai

            Very true, Christian Republican. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Dan az

            So karolyn enlighten all of us to which one you are!
            Today, the modern-day hippie has four sides.

            1. New-hippie or neo-hippie– a true child of the 1960’s counterculture

            The first type of what is called “modern-day hippies” is the true-blue hippie, a true child of the 1960’s counterculture. He (or she) is the true picture of a full-blown hippie, who lives the original hippie values from inside and out.

            These hippies are now called new-hippies or neo-hippies. Similar to the hippies in the past, they are still politically informed and educated. They also advocate the same causes in the spirit of peace, love, and freedom. They keep up with current political and environmental trends. They protested against issues that contradict with their hippie values in the same manner that the hippies of the past protested. As true-blue hippies, they still also live with the good and the bad sides of being a hippie. They protest against way and violence as they promote peace. On the other hand, they also like to engage in unusual activities, use odd clothes and accessories, and experiment with drugs in their advocacy for liberal rights. They really are hippies to the core.

            2. “Granola children:’ Lighter and brighter hippies

            The second type of modern-day hippies are a somewhat downplayed version. Their hippie side is reflected more by their environment-friendly, tree-hugging advocacies, rather than through their political and societal idealisms. They are mostly vegetarians, and tend to live through life in a breeze and simply focus on their love for the environment and clean, healthy things. They are lighter and brighter hippies. They are sometimes called granola children. A “granola child”, according to the urban dictionary, is one who “enjoys tie-dye, granola, and peace”.

            3. “Techno-hippies:” Angry hippies

            The third type of modern-day hippies, on the other hand, are the exact opposite of the granola children. They are the angry hippies. They are more futuristic, and like to show off their hippie values in enhanced, exaggerated ways. They are called the “techno hippies”. They are more modern and more forward than the Neo-Hippies. They take the hippie character to the next level. They sport tattoos, body piercing, and strange hairstyles such as the famous dreadlocks. They also exhibit their opinions though rave parties where they mostly consume large amounts of drugs and alcohol. They also take their advocacies to the Internet and are in tune with the latest gaming technologies. They are, in a way, rebellious hippies.

            4. “Rippies and yunkers:” Hippies without a cause

            Finally, the fourth type of modern-day hippies are not really composed of hippies anymore, as a lot of people claim. They are hippies without a cause. Cynics like to call them “rippies”, because they are simply ripping off the hippie lifestyle, for lack of an original generational style and culture to live by.

            There are a lot of terms closely associated with them. One of these terms is “yunkers”, which refers to a modern-day hippie who smokes and takes drugs a lot. Somehow, they give off the idea that they are merely using the hippie culture as an excuse to liberally take drugs. Accused of wearing the trendy, designer versions of distinct hippie clothes such as tie-dyes, vests, and sandals, they are also often referred to as the hippies who have lost their political activism.

            Nevertheless, some things remain the same:

            These four types of a modern-day hippie may be completely different. But one thing remains the same: the clothing style. Any breed of hippie is still wearing sandals and tie-dyes. Now, that is a fashion culture that doesn’t just die. <<

      • Dennis

        Worthless, thats all i can say for people like you.

    • Void1972

      This is why i’m leaving N.Y. Sick perverts in our Government, and the minorities just keep on voting them in. America is quickly becoming a third world nation, but N.Y. has been a third world city for decades now, and it is in it’s final death roll.
      Instead of kicking out all the illegal scum in our state, the democrats embrace them, at the cost of billions of our tax dollars. These minorities will vote democratic as long as the entitlements continue.
      Our Government has sold us out. Now they want to treat gays like a normal married couple. These people have an extreme mental disorder, and was classified as such for decades in the dictionary, but now is considered normal behavior.
      This is the end my friends and we all have to take responsibility for letting the 545 elected puppets destroy this once beautiful, proud and God fearing nation.
      I hope all of you Newyorkers enjoy your new gay Governor and all of the freaks you continue to elect!
      God bless America, and those who fight for her!!!!

      • JUKEBOX

        People might accept it when Adam & Steve have oral sex or anal sex, and one of them gets pregnant, and has a baby!

      • Karolyn

        You picked a good name for yourself!

    • jhazy46

      We are all contacting the state senators and reps about the gay marriage bill, it’s just so happens they are all gay liberal democrats themselves and aren’t listening to the conservative based constituents beneath them…as usual.

  • Public Mentor

    Wow Wayne037, great exact mutual feelings. These scumbags, which includes the queers and what they call people’s political leaders are both going to be smitted by the hand of God and final line: THERE ARE NO QUEERS IN HEAVEN. Get straight!!!!!


      There’s not much difference in the two, is there?

  • Savannah Website Design

    Hilarious Ben, Thanks for you contributions to the cause. – Andrew

  • Wayne937

    Karolyn and Coalminer, I will not make a direct reply to either of you as your, well I can’t say it on this forum, or I would be stooping to your level. Go get a life.

    • eddie47d

      If you spent less time denouncing gays and concentrated on the misdeeds of heterosexuals you’d be one busy man. You do have the freedoms to be as mean and ugly as you want and you seem to be using YOUR rights to the fullest.

      • JimH

        Eddie, If hetro’s are doing misdeeds, doesn’t make it ok for gays to do what they do. It just means that more than one group of people are wrong.
        Because a less percentage of people are gay, one would expect more misdeeds are done by hetro’s, but if you figure misdeeds per capita the figures may reveal a different story.

      • Jay

        Oh, so now its not about left vs right any longer, eddie took it to a new level, its queers vs straights!

        • Kate8

          Jay – The Left always sides with the aberrant. It’s just another way to create more divisiveness and corruption.

          They only way they know is to glorify a minority by putting down the majority. That is a sure way to turn people against one another.

          It would be so much better if we could all just live as we choose instead of being constantly socially engineered by giving deviants social preference.

          • JannyP

            KAROLYN, Please read Kate8′s posts. I have so much respect for her views and she can backup her statements with facts and common sense.
            Karolyn, if you can’t take the heat, please take that ignoramus eddie47d and leave. Both of you are instigator’s and do nothing but
            incite other’s to respond in a negative manner. What goes-around-comes around. Get it? Bye!

          • Karolyn

            Janny – I’m sharing my views just like everyone else. I can’t help it if it threatens people and makes them defensive. When I hear or see a perceived wrong, it is incumbent upon me to speak up.

          • Jay

            Me thinks you think to highly of yourself. We are not threatened by you Karolyn, nor do we get defensive, rather, we are repulsed by you!

          • Karolyn

            yes, I do think highly of myself Jay, as God would have me do. It’s too bad you think so little of yourself that you would be such a hateful person.

          • http://naver samurai

            Remember Karolyn, God will wear down the proud and make them equal to the lower ones. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • JC

            Karolyn says:
            June 25, 2011 at 7:06 pm
            yes, I do think highly of myself Jay, as God would have me do. It’s too bad you think so little of yourself that you would be such a hateful person.

            You seem confused, is it God or Reincarnation you believe in?
            Because either one cancels the other out.
            And maybe try not to be so open minded that your brains actually fall out.
            Once again we see that at least one person “liberal philosophy” is at its root completely immoral.

          • Karolyn

            JC – If I believed in your concept of God, I would not believe in reincarnation. I DO believe in God, just not the way you do; therefore, I believe in reincarnation. The stories told by reincarnated people, even children, cannot be refuted.

          • JC

            Karolyn, thanks for the clarification.
            BTW, you have no idea what I believe in, or don’t believe in.

          • http://naver samurai

            If you really believe in God Karolyn, then you know there is no such thing as reincarnation. There have been people resurrected by Jesus and God, but once we die we go to hades or heaven. No other thing possible. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • eddie47d

          Sorry Jay; The right has been doing that for a long time. Probably since the stone age.

          • http://naver samurai

            Then why is it always the left wing nut jobs that always wave this subject in our faces? Haven’t seen a GOP or conservative do that yet. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • EltonJ

    Jeeze, what is happening? Well, at least the Ambulance bomb would be effective against one class of scumbags in our society.

  • Gayle

    I have never understood gay rights. They want to be main stream yet they want special privileges. Like any other false edidt it will crash and burn and take a lot of people with it. Hopefully the ones who wanted this. These people make up only 2-3% of the total population why do they rule. They best be checking where this goes. Remember muslim law does not tolerate gays.

    • Robert Hauser

      (cont) really don’t give a rat’s ass about their “style” so long as they keep it amongst themselves. But they only incur our wrath and hatred by blocking up the city streets with their sick Billy Boy parades of usually jewish uglies like Bela Abzug and Glo Steinem ranting their clock busting faces off about their supposed “Constitutional right” to poison our kids’ minds in the class room.
      That is the opposite pathologically absurd extreme.

      • Karolyn

        Look in the mirror before calling other people ugly. It’s like the fat slob calling heavyset women unattractive!

        • iamone3

          What you seem to be missing is the celebrating of sin that is wrong & I do judge that. All have sinned but not all have Parades celebrating & promoting their sin. At least think about this in the light.

          • iamone3

            This was intended to be for Karolyn.

          • Dennis

            Karolyn will still find a way to say your wrong, she needs help.

          • Dennis

            Intended for iamone3.

          • Karolyn

            Isn’t it always that way when people disagree? God bless you too, Dennis! :-)

          • Dennis

            Thank you Karolyn, and my God bless you to ;-), and you are right, its not my place to judge you, and i do apologize for that. Have a great weekend.

        • JimH

          Karolyn, The fat slob wouldn’t be wrong. It just means both are unattractive.
          Not all of us are blessed with good looks, that’s why we invented a good personality.

        • Kate8

          karolyn – Ugly is as ugly does.

    • meteorlady

      When you consider that most Americans don’t like the lifestyle and have a bias, it makes sense that they would want laws passed to legitimize their lifestyle. The sad part is that they are costing a millions of dollars in order to do this and it’s not going to change one single mind about likes and dislikes of the lifestyle.

      • Jay

        Gays claim that homosexuality has been around since man was on the planet, they cite that argument as a way to justify or normalize the lifestyle, and to suggest that it is normal, well, guess what, so was the aversion to that lifestyle expressed since man was on the planet, and it still is today! If the lifestyle was practiced since man was on the planet and, therefore, it should be considered normal and accepted by all, then why does the majority of the population still express a natural aversion to it, and additionally, no amount of propaganda seems to be changing that? Hmm…perhaps Darwin has the answer!

        • JUKEBOX

          Murder and theft has also been around since man has been on the planet, but that doesn’t mean it’s right.

          • Jay

            Exactly my point Jukebox, thank you!

          • Kate8

            It’s never been about gay rights. It’s about turning society on its head, and making the profane mainstream in order to collapse society.

          • Jay

            So true Kate8, its rather obvious for any who are not under the spell! Unfortunately, a Thunderous Clap is what will eventually wake the slumbering!

          • http://naver samurai

            I agree with you all. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriots! They are part of the problem of a vocal minority going against the will of the majority, morals, ethics, and our Christian founding. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Christin

            Forcing ‘Gay Rights’ on the American population means killing ‘Pro-Family Rights’ in American… the two are opposites.

            The ‘Pro-Homosexual Agenda’ is all about replacing God’s way which is ‘The Family… A Father and a Mother in marriage and children to be raised in the Lord to Believe, Repent and be Baptized.”

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said, Christin! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Karolyn

      WHY DO YOU CARE?????????? It’s not up to us to judge. How does it hurt you?

      • Jay

        It hurts everyone Karolyn, especially gays. The homosexual lifestyle kills and destroys everything and everyone in its path! It is the cancer on our nation…how many have to die before you and your ilk understand the enormous and total destruction of the homosexual lifestyle? Perhaps that is the way of the socialist-marxsist pagans, they revel in death!

        • Karolyn

          Jay – Where do you see their lifestyle killing everything in its path??? I see no such thing. I see people living their lives and contributing to society. The bad apples always get the publicity whether hetero or gay. When you see them gathered for a rally (like in NY yesterday), you generally see people who look and are just the same as you and me. They go to church, work, eat, sleep, love, pay taxes, go grocery shopping just like everybody else.

          • Jay

            You spout nothing but nonsense Karolyn. You see only what you want to see. And do you honestly think that gays are not dying by the millions. You truly are depraved!

          • Karolyn

            Hey Jay, PEOPLE are dieing by the millions! You still didn’t answer my question. “killing everything in its path” The majority of gay people don’t get aids, and lesbians having aids is as rare as anybody else. The largest HIV population is in Africa amongst heterosexuals.

          • Jay

            HIV/AIDS Skyrockets in America

            HIV/AIDS may no longer crown headlines, but its death toll rises daily. This silent predator is a notorious serial killer and must be kept in the consciousness.

            Last year, another 46,000 people contracted HIV/AIDS in the United States of America. A staggering number compared to the Caribbean’s 17,000 for the same period.
            A White House report stated that an estimated 900,000 Americans (children and adults) were living with the disease, of which 300,000 were unaware of their infection. By the end of 2007, more than half a million people had died from HIV/AIDS. It is the sixth leading cause of death in America.

            Latest figures from the Caribbean Epidemiology Center (CAREC) revealed that more than 330,000 people were living with HIV/AIDS in the Caribbean. After sub-Saharan Africa, it has the second highest incidence of HIV occurrence. Last year, more than 11,000 people had died from AIDS. Between 2005 and 2007 new cases dropped by an estimated 8,000. The declines, which resulted from implementation of prevention programs and medication, were in Barbados, Bahamas and Bermuda.

            In comparison to the USA’s 50-state population of over 300 million, the Caribbean has 41 islands and a population of just over 6 million. HIV/AIDS in America is as close as the next passenger on the train or the bus, or the pedestrian beside you. With respect to the Caribbean, per capita, it is of grave concern.
            Rebecca Haag, Executive Director of AIDS Action, believes America had failed to restrain the rampaging virus. A more effective approach would have helped reduce its spread, she said.

            Last September over a hundred AIDS advocacy groups, dissatisfied with government’s approach, called for a National AIDS Strategy to help reduce infections in the USA.
            In January, The CRS Report for Congress stated that government was doing its share given the exorbitant cost of HIV/AIDS programs. Since 1986, the U.S. Agency for International Development for funding HIV/AIDS in the regions had increased its funds from $11.2 million in 2000 to $56.6 million in 2004. It’s expected to hit $30 billion by 2010.

            In 1981, when America diagnosed its first AIDS case, fingers pointed to the Caribbean as the portal through which it had entered the US. Reports stated that infection had spread through Trade and Tourism since more than 20 million pleasure-seeking Americans visited the islands annually, where many had unprotected sex with men and women living in this high-risk AIDS region.

            In 1982, the Caribbean diagnosed its first AIDS case in Jamaica. In addition, a 2001 CAREC report titled, 20 Years of HIV/AIDS Epidemic in the Caribbean, by epidemiologist Dr. B. Camara, stated, “First reported Caribbean AIDS cases in Haiti, Jamaica, and Trinidad and Tobago were among gay men who had had sex with North American gay men in North America or the Caribbean.” It noted that the same strain of the diagnosed HIV was circulating in North America and the Caribbean.

            Globally, 33.2 million people have HIV/AIDS. It is a major killer of people between age 15 and 44. In 2007, another 420,000 children contracted the virus; by year-end 2.5 million children were living with HIV worldwide. Of the 2.1 million people who died from AIDS last year, one in every seven, were children. Every hour, some 40 children die from AIDS.

            HIV/AIDS is still spreading at an alarming rate in the US and, especially
            As the pandemic rages, scientists grapple to find a cure for the debilitating disease. Last year they stopped administering an AIDS vaccine test that turned out to be ineffective.

            AIDS, acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, is a disease that immobilizes the body’s immune system. The human immunodeficiency virus, known as HIV causes AIDS by infecting and damaging lymphocytes, a type of white blood cell in the body’s immune system used to fight off invading germs.
            The virus takes over the T-cell lymphocytes and multiplies. The weakened system results in AIDS and becomes susceptible to fatal infections, cancer, and deterioration of the nervous system. Although AIDS is the result of an HIV infection, not everyone with HIV has AIDS.

          • JannyP

            KAROLYN, There you go AGAIN, judging people! What a HYPOCRITE. I am NOT anything like you and your friends. Who are you to make such broad statements? You contradict yourself time and again. You have exposed yourself to a point that leaves you without credibility. We The People, DO NOT WANT GAY MARRIAGE nor ANOTHER AMNESTY. What part do YOU not comprehend? Do you still live in that GLASS HOUSE? Amen

          • Kate8

            People with HIV/AIDS have actually become a social subgroup.

          • Karolyn

            Janny – Point out to me where I was judging please.

          • Jay

            Karolyn says: Janny – Point out to me where I was judging please.

            Karolyn, we could point it out, and many times we have, but you are too blind and imbecilic to see it!

          • eddie47d

            Okay folks; Where was Karolyn judging anyone?

          • http://naver samurai

            You are judging by insinuating that anyone who doesn’t agree with their immoral and unnatural way of life is a bad person. That kind of sounds like judging someone to me. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Void1972

            The ACLU in now fighting for the rights of NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association). Once you except one perverted life style, where will it end? What you do in your bedroom should stay in your bedroom and should not be advertised on TV or any other media outlet.
            I don’t think it’s fair for my children to be forced to except perversion as normal behavior, and I think it’s sick to see this in movies and on TV on a daily basis.
            You reap what you sow, and soon you will have the sick, demented America that you wish for.
            You need to do your homework on the freaks who started the gay rights movement. The same evil behind the gay movement was behind the sexual revolution, NOW, NAMBLA, ACLU, SEIU and every corrupt organization in America.
            Good Luck in the coming crisis and please try to educate yourself to the truth.
            God Bless America and those who fight for her!!!!

          • Dan az

            you still believe that the monkey started the aids virus don’t you?
            The widely accepted theory is that HIV/AIDS originated in a monkey or chimpanzee virus that “jumped species” in Africa. However, it is clear that the first AIDS cases were recorded in gay men in Manhattan in 1979, a few years before the epidemic was first noticed in Africa in 1982. It is now claimed that the human herpes-8 virus (also called the KS virus), discovered in 1994, also originated when a primate herpes virus jumped species in Africa. How two African species-jumping viruses ended up exclusively in gay men in Manhattan beginning in the late 1970s has never been satisfactorily explained.

        • moonbeam

          Exactly right! The homosexual bloodline ends there. If all lived this lifestyle, the human race would be wiped out within a century. No babies would ever be born. THAT is just one of many reasons why it is dangerous.

          Have you ever seen the movie “Squantos Tale”? In it, a Native American Indian is taken from his tribe and taken across the seas to an English colony and lives among monks. While eating a meal at the table, Squanto asks the monks “Where are your women?” They tell him that there are no women there. Squanto says “Without women, your tribe will die.”

          This made me think, so this is why homosexuals want to indoctrinate children to their lifestyle. How else are they to keep their “tribe” alive? They can’t do it naturally among themselves. What better way is there than to teach the little children and make them see things their way. It is happening right here and right now, people. Wake up and save the children!

          • Karolyn

            moonbeam – You are so far off base! Do you think any of your gay friends would try to talk a child into being gay? That’s crazy! Of course, no one can make someone gay. It just is! The way I heard it explained in book I read is that if the pregnant female doesn’t have enough testosterone and is carrying a male child, that child will be gay and vice versa with a female child. Sure makes a lot of sense to me.

          • Jay

            You dolt Karolyn, children are highly impressionable and the mere fact that they will grow up watching a union that can only be described as an ABOMINATION, will pretty much determine and establish confusion as to what is to be considered normal and what is to be considered REPREHENSIBLE. It is nothing more then forced and deliberate brainwashing, and no doubt, the majority of the adopted children will be abused! Who’s to say that pedophiles will not masquerade as so-called legitimate married homosexual couple. This will go nowhere, and time will prove and show what disaster and broken lives this idiotic and heinous circus will bring. Perverts and reprobates, and you are to be counted among them as you applaud and cheer for its establishment like a demented seal!

          • Karolyn

            Jay – You are so far off-base with your presumptions it’s ridiculous. You hact as tough all gays are pedophiles and degenerates. Well, they are not! More sex crimes are committed by heterosexuals than homosexuals. As I said, balanced and intelligents gays and lesbians raise balanced and intelligent children, who grow into wonderful adults.

          • Kate8

            But gays have a higher rate of pedophelia.

          • eddie47d

            That is a lie about homosexuals having a higher rate of being a pedophile, Not by a long stretch!There is probably more pedophiles in older grandpas than homosexuals. It’s actually closer to 95% -5% and not in the heteros favor.

          • http://naver samurai

            Karolyn, if you went just by the numbers of those caught, maybe. But if you look at the percentage of the straight and gay populations in relation to the people caught, you’ll see that there are more in the gay population than in the straight population. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Kate8

            eddie – Not so. The Left has tried to spread the idea that it’s a lie, but THAT is the lie.

            I just read a recent study showing that gays do, indeed, have a high percentage of pedophiles.

            Think about it, eddie. When you begin to compromise traditional values, it is only a short leap to compromising them all. That is to say, when one allows oneself to indulge in perversity, there are no boundaries.

          • JC

            eddie47d says:
            June 25, 2011 at 8:59 pm
            That is a lie about homosexuals having a higher rate of being a pedophile, Not by a long stretch!
            Hit a nerve commie47d?
            Which one are you? ;)

      • JC

        Karolyn says:
        June 25, 2011 at 1:05 pm
        WHY DO YOU CARE?????????? It’s not up to us to judge. How does it hurt you?

        When they see themselves as “special” class that has rights over and above the majority then are working AGAINST the Bill of Rights which applies to everyone equally. There should be No special rules for special deviants.
        And when they start forcing this crap on our children in schools in the guise of sex education it is symptomatic of Government taking the role of Mommy and Daddy which is wrong and should be shot dead in its tracks.
        When they are having sex in the streets of San Francisco like the animals they represent a moral decline of our nation.

        Some things should never be tolerated.

        • Karolyn

          Uh, JC, they are only asking for the SAME rights, not special rights. If they’re having sex in the streets in SF, gee, that’s news; and I’m sure they are being arrested just like anybody else who would do that. There are deviants in all sub-cultures, but that should not reflect on the whole body.

          • JC

            All the same, the “Gay Rights Movement” is taxpayer funded and I resent any form of theft, which is exactly what that is.

          • http://naver samurai

            What Constitutional rights have been taken from them? We are just tired of them waving their immoral lifestyle in our faces and saying it’s OK, but it is actually leading them on a path to hades. God says that it is an abomination. Didn’t Sodom and Gomorrah teach you anything? Ooops! I forgot that you don’t believe in the Bible, just what you want to believe. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • christianrepublican

          To the gays, if you ever feel that God is calling you, please do not hesitate to stop and answer Him to at least hear what His Holy Spirit is trying to say to your spirit (that He created). My warning to you is that if God tires of calling you without an answer, He may turn you over to your desires and not give you a 2nd chance to be called to join in life everlasting again. When I heard that New York had passed the gay marriage law, I cried so hard for you and for our country that God Himself built. I begged Him not to punish America for the laws spiritually uneducated people have made since they don’t understand what it really means. I beg of you gays to at least try and pray onetime and see if God doesn’t come back for you one day to save your souls. Please!

    • Karolyn

      They are not asking for special privileges. They just want to be accepted for who they are and have the same rights as everybody else.

      • moonbeam

        But Karolyn, we all have human rights. Gays are not excluded from that. They want special rights based on sexual preference.

        They want to be homosexual, but desire to emulate the heterosexual lifestyle. This tells me that innately they crave natural heterosexuality but are too caught up in un-natural homosexuality confusion.

        The anus is not a sexual organ. It is there to excrete human bodily waste, but is used by gay males to simulate having sex with a woman. Likewise, women together use a fake male organ to simulate having sex with a man. What does this say to you?

        • Karolyn

          “emulate heterosexual lifestyle?” What does that mean? It makes no sense. They just want to have the same legal rights that heteros do. Why should a gay partner be denied the right to even see his significant other in intensive care or assist in making decisions about his welfare? Those that choose marriage want to commit to each other. It is a human trait when someone is in love to do that. It doesn’t have to have anything to do with church either. It is a totally separate issue, having nothing to do with God unless THEY so choose, in which case they can have a gay Episcopalian priest marry them or any other enlightened man of the cloth. Personally, I think marriage is highly overrated, but that’s just me.

          As far as sexual practices go, heterosexuals do the same thing.

          • moonbeam

            “emulate heterosexual lifestyle?” What does that mean?

            You know exactly what I mean by that as I have explained in my post. Sodomy is a sin no matter who does it. Why any man would want to shove his penis into a bag of body waste is beyond my comprehension.

            I get it that you are accepting of all people. I am as well. But that does not mean that I agree with their agendas. What if child molesters want their rights, or those who have sex with animals want their rights? You dare to say they should have those rights? That’s what’s coming if rights are given based on sexual preferences.

            Would it be okay with you if a child molester wants the right and demands to live in your home with your innocent children? Of course not!

          • CJM

            I know of homosexuals who completed a special form (which has nothing to do with advanced directives) that enabled their partners to make decisions for them while hospitalized and NONE had a partner barred from visiting them while in the intensive care unit. If you believe the garbage homosexuals cannot have their partners visit them or make decisions for them when hospitalized, you are misinformed by choice. I worked in hospitals and your claims did not exist.

          • http://naver samurai

            Wat too much kool aid. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • CJM

        What rights are you speaking of? Homosexuality is not a right, but a preferece for most who profess to that sexual orientation. Yes, there are a few who are homosexual due to a medical condition, but they are not among the majority of homosexuals. Getting married? How silly; marriage was a union that the Creator bestowed upon a male and female for the purpose of procreation–and two of the same gender are incapable of fulfilling that purpose. Are you speaking of the right to have ‘family’ insurance coverage? That isn’t a right guaranteed by the US Constitution. Are you speaking of the right to have medical/financial information shared? That right already exists when you complete the necessary forms that are available and provide the name of the person you want to have the information. After my spouse’s death, I filled in a form that gave a designated person the right to information in the event I became incapacitated—and it was NOT one of those idiotic advanced directives that hospitals now require one to fill in either before or at the time of admission. Your human rights have always been protected; what you ask for are not rights, but wants.

      • LC

        Why then is California pushing SB48 promoting homosexuality and transgender issues in the schools? Why then was Kevin Jennings, Safe School Czar (what a joke)- ACT Up and friend of NAMBLA- also promoting the agenda? Hands off the kids!

      • christianrepublican

        Karolyn, I totally understand what it feels like to want to be accepted into a group of close friends and I also know how disheartening and lonely it feels to realize that those friends are the worst thing in the world for me. You see, I used to do drugs and when I answered God when I felt Him calling me to pray to Him, I suddenly had an urge to completely get as far away from the hundreds of drug related friends that I’d known for MANY years. In their place tho, I made the best friends in church! I never knew what real friends were until I made christian friends. I also went to church with many recovering homosexuals who had to work against their demons just like I did. In a way being gay is like an addiction and a habit. I’m so grateful that God did want to call me to become a christian and it saved my life and my soul. Any decent church would welcome you with open arms and fill your life with hundreds of TRUE friends that don’t have a hidden reason for befriending you (like sex ideas). Satan had clouded my judgement with drug life and led me astray and I felt like I could never change it until God and church made my desires just vanish! My drug desires vanished very quickly. God takes away whatever spell that satan puts on our minds. Its for real. I pray you would try to pray at least once to God the Father of the Holy Bible. Just once. He may answer u now or later, but he WILL answer you.

    • Don

      YES,, Gayle,, Off with their heads !!!

  • Charles

    Hey people,
    Whats the matter with Clintons aid becoming a porn star? Isn`t this the way Liberals think? What is mine is yours,spread the wealth or in her case spread her body for all to enjoy or not. As far as New York
    passing same sex marriage, they should be ashamed. Marriage is between
    man and women and in Gods eyes, will always be. You can cut the pie
    anyway you want, mans law will never over turn Gods. This country is
    going to the dogs in a heart beat and we as Americans will pay dearley for it. We are already feeling the effects of Obamas and his Marxist friends policies. This is just another nail in the heart of one of our great institutions and the dismantling of America to
    coincide with Obamas plans for America. Have we become to tired to
    fight for whats right or wrong? (Good vs. Evil) Or don`t we give a damn anymore. I know their are between 15 and 20 million illigals
    that could care less about America and another 20 million that back
    them up, including many Politicians. Then their are another 100 million
    who Obama depends on who don`t have a clue whats going on in this
    country of ours. Some still believe Bush is still President. A lot of them have no idea where Wash. DC is and don`t want to know. The only
    thing we can be certin of is God will prevail. GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!

    • Karolyn

      Yes, God will prevail, and God loves gays!!!!

      • Dennis

        God loves all, but thats not going to help them on judgement day.

      • JUKEBOX

        He may love gays, murderers, thieves, and perverts, but he does not love their sinful ways.

        • Kate8

          God made His views on homosexuality pretty plain, I’d say. Just look at what happened to Sodom and Gamorrah.

          Rampant, open homosexual practice has preceded the demise and fall of many great nations. In fact, it’s a sign that a nation is about to fall.

          • Jay

            Ditto and bulls eye!

          • http://naver samurai

            Good job Kate8. Let’s keep up the pressure and maybe she’ll go away. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Karolyn

            Give me a break! “Rampant open” homosexuality. You make it sound like some kind of perpetual orgy or something.

          • Jay

            That’s about the size of it, Karolyn.

          • http://naver samurai

            That’s about the size of it Karolyn. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Kate8

            karolyn – Homosexuality is widely practiced by our leaders, and is promoted as something to be celebrated. Our children are being indoctrinated into thinking it is normal and good, and that they should explore all forms of sexuality freely. And they are engaging in sexual practices at earlier ages than ever.

            It is shoved in our faces on a daily basis, and say anything against the practice has become a hate crime.

            What more do you want?

      • CJM

        Yes, God loves all; no one has told you otherwise. What people are saying it is the act itself that goes against nature. Evidently, you and your lady partner can’t see that.

  • KiKinKajun

    Ben-My 1st time listening-enjoyable!
    wllharrington-Good one.
    Wayne937-I am 59 yrs-flower child-drug days-HIPPIE-I have been gainfully employed since 1973. I did my drugs and if I live long enough to retire-I will smoke GOD’S good grass again! I agree with Karolyn and coal miner “GET A LIFE!”
    JUKEBOX-Not reproducing is also a choice of opposite sex marriages.
    If you want to stop the aliens and welfare production factories-
    PUBLIC MENTOR-If you thInk there are no queers in HEAVEN; you must not believe in the all forgiving GOD I was brought up with.

    • moonbeam


      You are correct. God is all forgiving, no matter what we have done. We are all sinners. He also says that we must repent of our sins. Do this before leaving this life. You say you know God, but do you really? When was the last time you cracked open your bible?

      Here’s a clue for you. God does not play the homosexual game. It is the activity that He finds unacceptable. Remember, He destroyed Sodom and Gommorah because of it. Do you think He is playing? I guarantee you He is not. He says what He means, and means what He says.

      Here’s another clue for you. None of us are good enough to enter Heaven. No, not one. Not even the Pope. God truly loves us all, but it is the evil we do that He hates. Men lying with men and women lying with women is against nature. God sees it as perversion and such will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

      We are forbidden to hate others, even homosexuals. Sin is sin, no matter the degree. We can find forgiveness and redemption in Jesus Christ, who willingly laid down His life as the sacrificial Lamb so that we all don’t get what we truly deserve. He paid the ultimate price for our sins, the greatest gift we will ever receive.

      All sins are forgiven, literally wiped away as if they never happened and God promised to not remember them if we repent and accept Jesus into our lives as our Lord and Savior.

      Think about the end of your days, which surely will come. Don’t wait until you are gasping for air to ask God for His help. Talk to Him today and every day for the rest of your life. Ask Him for His guidance to get you through this life and He will give it.

      Accept Him today and find peace and tranquility, no matter the chaos going on around you. Rebuke all contrary spirits of fear, doubt, anger, all of it to be replaced with God’s Spirit. He never said this life would be a bed of roses, but He sure makes it easier to bear. Lean and trust on Him and cast all your sorrows at His feet. Do this and be made free.

      I am a sinner through and through, but Jesus is my Lord and Savior who has been patient, tolerant and merciful. Without Him and His Love I could not make it. His presence in my life, how He works with me, teaches me and helps me is indescribable.

      No, I don’t deserve to enter Heaven, but I know He will accept me with open loving arms anyway. His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ is my personal Lord and Savior. This is my testimony about the love of God and His presence in my life. Ask Him into your heart today.

      • Karolyn

        We are all a part of God, and, as such, deserve all the good available to us. God wants us to be happy and joyful above all things. GOD IS IN EVERYTHING! The Bible is used for control. Man is inherently good and would be so if he found his inner truth. Fortunately, more and more people are realizing that fact. I am so glad I don’t have to live judging everyone and being so self-righteous. What a prison!

        • moonbeam

          I agree with you, Karolyn, but I view the bible as instructions for living. God is in everything and has control, but He never forces us to walk in His ways. He gives us all the freedom of choice to do good or to do evil. I choose to do good, but often fail. I like this passage in Romans 7:19 written by Paul:

          “For the good that I would, I do not; but the evil which I would not, that I do.”

          Even though he is a champion for God, he is being honest and truthful about himself and his sins. Pretty much sums it up about all of us.

        • Jay

          Karolyn: We are all a part of God, and, as such, deserve all the good available to us. God wants us to be happy and joyful above all things. GOD IS IN EVERYTHING! The Bible is used for control. Man is inherently good and would be so if he found his inner truth. Fortunately, more and more people are realizing that fact. I am so glad I don’t have to live judging everyone and being so self-righteous. What a prison!

          Jay: We are not all part of God, we are however made in His image, but God is distinct and transcends His creation, silly. God wants us to be happy and joyful but not while we break His commandments, silly. Some have used and use the Bible for the purpose to control, but the Bible was not written for the purpose to control, rather, for the purpose to acquaint us with the Redeemer and Creator, silly. Man is born hopelessly corrupted and no good is found in man, so naturally, and by necessity, God became man and offered himself as a Sacrifice so that man may be Saved, silly. Unfortunately, more and more of humanity is being brain-washed and controlled not to believe in the Truth of the Saving Redeemer that the Bible speaks of and points to, and many will perish as a result, no doubt that makes you exceedingly glad, right Karolyn, silly. Oh but you do judge everyone, and you are self-rightious, and yes, you do live in a prison of your own making Karolyn, you silly blind fool!

          • Karolyn

            I have to admit, Jay, that I do judge the judgmental. As far as everything you wrote. I could repeat the last line to you. I was a Christian all my life, except for a few yeas as an agnostic. I only saw the light about 4 years ago. Oh, yes, and man actually created God in HIS image. Jesus was the most enlightened human being ever born. We should all strive to be like him. What would you say to mankind having come from aliens? It could be true, you know. There is intelligent life out there. Why is there nothing in the Bible about that? Nobody REALLY knows what is true! So, I feel that it is OK for each of us to seek spirituality in our own way and peace be to you! :-)

          • Jay

            Sorry to break your bubble Karolyn, but you were never a Christian!

          • Karolyn

            And who made YOU God, Jay, that you would know what’s in other people’s hearts? See, this is what I mean about people like you. You think you know it all and have to shove your views down other people’s throats. You would have this country run by the Bible, just as Islam is run by the Koran.

          • Jay

            Yes Karolyn, open wide! BTW, the hateful way you speak of Christianity, one would think that my statement that you were NEVER a Christian would make you delighted!!! Again, you were NEVER a Christian, had you been, then no one would have snatched you from the Saviour’s Hand! You are of your father, the father of lies and murder, Satan! You already believe in his lie, the same lie that Eve believed, “Did God really say?, You will surely not die, for God knows that when you eat of the tree your eyes will be opened and you will be as God.” Rather then enlightened and openminded, you are a blind and depraved simpleton. You should at least have the sense to keep your mouth shut! BTW, I don’t believe in shoving my beliefs down any one’s throat, I simply state what I believe. Have a nice weekend…

          • moonbeam

            Karolyn, I have just read that you are a new Christian of 4 years. I am happy for you. You are just a babe in Christ and still need the milk of understanding. As you grow and learn, you will receive meat.

            Being a christian you must understand that the bible is God’s Word. You are not to lean unto your own understanding. If you are a Christian and do not take the bible for what it is, you have much to learn. But make no mistake about accountability.

            Don’t say you are a Christian, then in the next breath speak against His Word. You either believe the bible or you don’t. There is no wiggle room. God’s road is straight and narrow, not wide and crooked. You can’t give God lip service. He doesn’t play that game either.

            I do see in some of your answers that you are convicted by truth when it is written here. A good sign. You readily stand up to defend what you believe is right, but you must be very careful about being deceived, which is easily done to one who is new to the fold.

            Know that the devil is busy and very cunning. He knows God better than you or I do, and can twist God’s Word to sound like it’s right. He also knows his destruction is near and has stepped up his game.

            Girlfriend, put on the whole Armor Of God and read His Word. The Holy Spirit will help you understand it if you are quiet and really listen. The bible is where you can find truth, and nowhere else.

            Also, listen less to some of these preachers and more to God. God said “Even the elect will be deceived.” You can tell this by listening to 5 preachers and getting 5 different interpretations of what God says.

            This is too much meat for you to hear now, but wait until you find out the truth about christmas and easter. It is mind boggling, but too much for you right now.

          • Jay

            moonbeam, I think you misread Karolyn’s post. She is not a new Christian, what she said was that, she used to be a Christian. BTW, there is no such thing as, used to be a Christian!

          • moonbeam

            Agree with you wholeheartedly Jay, but she is a young babe in Christ of only 4 years and the devil is playing her. She just doesn’t yet know how to recognize the difference between God’s truths and the devil’s lies and is easily fooled as we can see.

          • Kate8

            Karolyn – You say you judge the judgmental, and yet you are always defending Muslims, who are the most narrow and judging of all religions, and entirely satanic.

            The truth is, you only judge Christians. It bugs the @%$& out of liberals that Christians aren’t “inclusive” enough. Yeshua said, “I am the Way, and the Truth and the Life”. He didn’t say that there were many ways and truths. If one doesn’t believe that their faith is real, then it is no faith at all.

            Living in manifest form is, by nature, illusion and delusion. While the spirit of Life issues forth from Creator, it is folly to assume that we have, or even understand, the Mind of God. Because physicality is deceptive, God gave us Laws to live by, in order that we might prosper and be healthy. But He does not force us to follow them. We have a choice. Sooner or later, though, we pay the price for defiance.

            I know exactly where you are coming from with the NewAge stuff. It contains enough truth to suck you in, but it leads down a wrong road. It is the NWO path to one-world religion, and it flatters us by telling us what we want to hear. Scripture warns us against this. Initially it feels like freedom but, like all seduction from the lying spirit, it leads surely to bondage that can’t be broken.

            I know I’m wasting my time, but one day (sooner than we think) you will find that things are not as you thought.

      • usmadgirl


        Of ALL the comments I’ve read on this site since I signed up a few years ago, this is the most valuable & truest information the people on this site could ever receive.

        At this time in our country, no better advice could be given. Some think that Christians think they’re perfect & want to judge & “demonize” others. That is so not true. As you said, I too am a sinner through & through. Over the past 2 ½ years, I’ve had to ask God’s forgiveness constantly throughout the day from getting so angry watching our country being intentionally destroyed & listening to all the lies & deception from the progressives & from our “leader” who might not even be qualified to be in the White House.

        The only difference between non-Christians & Christians is that we are sinners saved by the Grace of God & have asked Jesus to come into our lives as our personal (not collective) Savior. We’re “all sinners & come short of the Glory of God”! I pray that God will speak to the hearts of those who are so misguided.

        Thank you for sharing this with all of us!

    • moonbeam

      Personally, I think pot should be legalized. People can say what they want about it. I enjoy a phat one myself every now and then, and again.

      And I’ll tell you something else, it settles an upset stomach, takes the serrated edge off of pain, reduces the fluid build up in the eye due to glaucoma, increases the appetite of those too sick to eat. It has many medicinal benefits too numerous to count.

      Those who do enjoy a good toke are the most laid back people I’ve ever known. Relaxed and non-violent. Not thinking they can jump off of tall buildings and fly.

      However, it is not for kids. Any responsible adult should be able to legally enjoy in the privacy in their homes or just chillin’ with friends. If it keeps a person from performing and attending to life’s responsibilities, then no.

      Contrary to popular lies, it does not make you go to heavier drugs. If that were the case, I should be doing speed balls by now. Partaking of the natural friendly herb and an ice cold beer is as far as I go. As a friend of mine recently said “a natty and patty is all I need” LOL!!!

      If a person needs more than that, then they already have a problem.

      • Karolyn

        moonbeam – Personal Liberty has a piece about the Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act just introduced by Franks and Paul. If you want to get your name on the list of supporters and contact your rep. here’s the site to do it st the Drug Policy Alliance:

      • S.C. Murf

        Moonbeam, Pot is a mind altering drug and Jesus said, Do not partake in mind altering spirits for they allow an avenue for satan and his deamons. Jesus said that if he allowed us to see the spiritual warfare going on around us that we would go insane because of the ugliness. Jesus IS weather you like it or not, want it to be or not. we all make the choice everyday if we accept Him or not, what we believe in or not. The act of homosexuality is an abomination in the eye’s of God the Father. It is ok to be different, but for man to lay with man is sin and will be judged not by but by God. We are truly living in the last days, and for anyone that cannot see this they your heart is already dead and all you will do is help satan. Homosexuals are not born (God does not make mistakes) they are recruited.

        Up the hill

        PS I have been alcohol free since 1976 when I asked Jesus into my life and asked Him to take away that family ruining addiction. Do you people realize that alcohol has ruined more homes than all the earthquakes, floods, tornadoes combined? And our Gov’t. allows it to flow freely because of the money involved. It is also easier to control a drugged up and drunken society. Can’t wait for Jesus to return then we won’t have to listen to satan thru people like some of the truly lost posting here.

  • armyblue

    When somebody throws a bouquet at a marriage who’s supposed to catch it?

    • JimH

      Army, The one who gave the “loving couple” the matching his and his, or hers and hers bath towels, should catch the bouquet.


      Maybe Perez Hilton.

  • sylent1

    I dunno, army, but i think you better not drop it. Gays can do what they want, I’m just sick of every tv show being about gay people. I am not inured to it…I am heartily tired of it. And I think adoption or child rearing by gay couples is heinous. I don’t care how kind nor loving they are I think it screws up a kid’s life. For those of you that think this is homophobic just think what YOUR life would have been like with gay parents. That might work in Greenwich Village but it don’t work in Kansas.

    • moonbeam

      Gotta agree with you there, sylent1. I don’t think gays understand nobody really cares what they do, but why keep ramming it in people’s faces?

      I to am sick of everything being about this lifestyle. Additionally, I don’t agree with them adopting children, nor do I agree with single people adopting. Kids deserve way better than that. The best for children is to be raised in a loving home with a father (male) and mother (female). This gives children the natural balance they need.

      If a person is homosexual…fine…more power to ya. Just keep it behind closed doors where all sexual behavior belongs, even heterosexual behavior.

      To tell the truth, I’ve had homosexual friends and they were truly good friends. I worked with a guy who was gay and you know what? He helped me out more than the guy trying to get in my pants who wouldn’t lift a finger! I valued his friendship but have lost track of him over 20 years. I sincerely hope he is alive and well.

      His lifestyle was never an issue between us and I never judged or beat him over the head about it. While I did not care for his lifestyle, I accepted and loved him for the kind human being he was. As a child of God, that is exactly what I was supposed to do.

      • Karolyn

        Some of the best friends I’ve ever had have been gay. I have always found underdogs to be really good people.

    • Karolyn

      I know a lesbian couple who have three natural children, two of which are twins. Their kids are the greatest, most intelligent, respectful, giving, accepting and loving kids I’ve ever met. Don’t give me that crap about how bad it is for the kids!

      • Jay

        Karolyn stated: Don’t give me that crap about how bad it is for the kids!

        Its not bad for the kids Karolyn, its horrendous! To teach children that which God expressly forbids, is nothing short of ANATHEMA!

        • Karolyn

          And they’re all good Christians too! :-) (probably better than many people here who spout hate and judge everybody!)

          • moonbeam

            Karolyn, I must ask you, being good Christians and all, why do they deny God’s Word and what He says about homosexuality? It’s like slapping God in the face and saying “I don’t care what You say. I will do what I want.” They may be happy but it is a false happiness.

            We’re all sinners, but good grief, I try to keep it to a minimum. I’ve got a lot to answer for when I stand before the Judgement Seat looking God in the face when He asks, “So, what have you to say for yourself?” My answer can only be “Lord, I am guilty and without excuse for the things I have done.”

          • Karolyn

            moonbeam – I have found different interpretations of scripture, whereby it says that Sodom and Gommorah were destroyed because of idolatry, not homosexuality. And the residents who wanted to rape the angels were not committing a sexual act, but an act of hate, anger and power and control. That’s what rape is. In my limited studies I have come across a lot of different ways to interpret scripture, and they make sense to me, although you certainly would not see it that way. I mean, really, the Bible is just written word, after all; and NOBODY really knows the real truth. There are too many unexplained anomalies for me to ever go back to believing as I used to. That’s why I reject Christianity. However, I do not rail against it or hate it. It served me well most of my life, although there were always so many questions. What disturbs me is people wanting the Bible to control everybody’s life, even those who don’t ascribe.

          • Jay

            Karolyn, you say you study religion, yet, your above statement proves you understand absolutely nothing about the events leading up to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. I have never heard a more idiotic explanation of such. You are truly a simpleton!

          • eddie47d

            Karolyn; Jay is too spiteful to be a Christian. His mind is closed like a steel trap and that mind is trapped in a vile of poison. We’ll have to call him Rev Coughlin who was one bitter Christian.(He was a right wing Rev Wright).

          • Jay


          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry Karolyn, but you can’t be a Christian and live in rebellion to the Bible at the same time. If you don’t go by God’s word, then you are no Christian. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • moonbeam

          Karolyn, I am sorry, but you are lost. Apparently I misread some of what you wrote and thought I read you came back to Christianity of 4 years. You are not a Christian, but I will pray for you.

          Your father is the devil and you just may find yourself burning with him in eternity. I pray that you one day see the light before departing this life. You won’t get another chance after that. Sorry, but reincarnation is a lie and a myth. If you reject God and His Truth now and for the rest of your life, you will have no part with Him from everlasting to everlasting.

          Here is where your beliefs are dangerous. Once you have heard the truth and reject it, woe unto you. You still have a chance right now. Take it and embrace Him.

          • Jay

            God bless you moonbeam! On this one thing I will agree with Karolyn, you have a good heart!

          • iamone3

            I don`t think Karolyn has rejected God. Organized religion is another matter.

          • http://naver samurai

            Weel said, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • JUKEBOX

        Which one of them produced the semen to impregnate the other.

      • S.C. Murf

        Time for you to make that popping sound karolyn

        up the hill

        • http://naver samurai

          She did, but them it is followed by a thump and it goes right back in again. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • saturnx311

    OK, another comment forum that was totally wasted because of back-and forth sniping, squabbling and bickering about a total non-issue.

    This is exactly what the people behind the government want to happen: everyone focused on a stupid same-sex law, when we should be discussing and debating bringing those responsible for the economic collapse to justice, to focussing on hanging all the politicians resonsible for the sloppy, stench-filled coverup of the greatest mass-murder in the history of the USA, 9/11/2001.
    It was a pretext for the invasion, shattering of a society, and the murder of over a million innocent Iraqis, bringing to justice those responsible for BRIBING the Taliban (New York Times) to kill American young girls and boys, to perpetuate a nonexistent war in Afghanistan, which covers the fact that the US has made Opium a tremendously profitable crop in that country again. Just do a search on Air America.
    The opium is shipped right to China, because they have the best techiques for refining it to heroin, then guess whose streets it’s then sold on? The USA’s streets, where else?

    The international cartel that controls the Fed, also has controlled the government here and created the most stinking cesspool of corruption, for over 100 years now. They are the most brutal, psychopathic criminals on the face of the earth now, and they ALL should be taken out.

    If anyone says that I am wrong about any of this, please do the homework and show how I am wrong. You just may be surprised at what you find.
    Get outside the left/right box, see how the Democrat/Republican liberal/conservative paradigm is in place IN ORDER to keep us fighting each other, in order to WEAKEN us in the total field. Think about it–I urge you. If we can unite, we can THROW them all out. Stay divided and we are weak and ineffectual– always fighting and killing each other when we should be taking our country back! Focus on those responsible!
    Oh and KILL YOUR TV!

    • Robert Hauser

      My TV ended up in a dumpster decades ago….

      Don the toilet it flushes;
      Out the TV it gushes —Robt John Spittler

      But instead of preaching to the choir here, why aren’t you filing your complaints about 9/11 and all related in the form of an affidavit with your nearest federal grand jury? You cannot help but know that Ovomit’s so called “long form” birth certificate as released by the White Brothel looks like it was forged by Sasha as part of a class project…so why don’t you print out a copy of it and submit it with your complaint to the grand jury? That’s the way you get things done…if enough of us do it.
      You may argue that Barry’s birth certificate is a bagatelle compared to the sheer treason he has committed against this nation—yes, it is, but the ISSUE itself is vastly easier to use to INITIATE impeachment proceedings against him and THEN add war crimes, oath violation and treason to the initial charge of fraudulent campaigning for and accepting of high office. Then Goldman

      • Robert Hauser

        -SUCKS, Lloyd Blankfine and all the rest of those lying parasite bastards can be sub poenaed and their counterfeit money empire brought down in flame around them. It can start with the chocolate jesus but it won’t end until Ben Bernanke is left dangling from a utility pole for two weeks in the sun.

  • survivor

    saturnx311 speaks realities not wanted to face by many who would only want to be able to continue on whatever path that the elite rulers
    want the American public to only think theirs is the true reality.
    Intelligent people How could each twin tower of the world trade center drop to the ground into a pile of debri in under 12 seconds.
    The American people are goin to have some sort of revival towards a realistic humanity working together or we are all going to be helping one another recover from nuclear holicost on American soil. O that our country of people might wake up and be people united and realise the deceptions of self interest and manipulations of mind control.
    It would seem possible yet much has been abanndoned and many can’t even begin to comprehend. That our country might find a refreshed vision and ber moved to righteousness. Thank you saturnx311

  • Wayne937

    Anyone want a good job. Check out this youtube website:

  • Wayne937

    Another youtube on all the oil out in the North Dakot and Montana:

  • CJM

    Delta Airlines ought to be obliterated, banned from the US given their anti-semetic treatment of the Jewish people. All it would take to get them out of the skies is to refuse to purchase their tickets and within a month, they would be bankrupted. It is a sad commentary for an American business to have obtained taxpayer dollars in a bailout situation and have them repay us with this latest betrayal.

  • Charles

    Karolyn and Dennis,
    God bless both of you for having God bless each other.

  • i41

    The only way faggots and democrats can be open minded, is with a 30.06 at 500 yards. During the “Weiner gate”, Onumnutts signed the executive order called the Food, Fiber, and Land Use Act, modelled after the UN mandate 21, passed by the UN in 2007. It wants all private land ownership world wide to be eliminated. With is executive order now the Justice Dept, Dept of Education, Homeland Security, Dept of Armed Services, EPA, Fed Game Fish and Parks, The Treasury Dept, and any other worthless agency will decide how and what you can use your private land for and what you plant, if you don’t meet the government pukes approval, government will take your land and you will be jailed. This has been the marxist/communist muslim plans since his election. Go check out the Dept of Interior of his early plans to take away all private property rights and put wonks in charge because everyone else is not bright enough to taker care of them selves. So all you libatard, Onumnutt rump kissing moron have your goal of total government control of what you eat and what you produce on you own land.

  • Janice Fortin

    Wayne: low and ethical values? Blame it on the push to ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT: the slimiest, most corrupt, most immoral of all possible
    status. Marriage: you can do what you feel is correct as far as
    “unions” go, but NEVER NEVER TOUCH THE SANCTITY OF MARRIAGE, which can and MUST always be between man and woman. Man can alter his mindset, but NOONE on earth has EVER altered the physical creation of man and woman. Listen closely: IT AINT NICE TO FOOL MOTHER NATURE…’s not even possible. Get Jenkins, the one for one world slime, OUT OF THE SCHOOL ROOM OR YOU WILL DESTROY those vulnerable children. Has the president shown or told about his meetings with whom he considers his BOSSMAN, the UN, how he doesn’t feel up to being in charge of AMERICAN OCEANS but wants the corrrupt one world gov UN to take them over????? Obama is in way over his malicious head
    and wants the UN to finish the job of destroying the sovereignty of USA. OUT DAMN SPOT.

  • Charles

    Not to change the subject,
    I just saw in our local paper that we have spent over 90 billion
    dollars protecting our borders with Mexico the last 10 years,with much of that going to our National Gaurd and border patrol agents. The last time I heard,
    don`t they get paid no matter what they are doing? We could put 50,000
    of our Army on the border and wouldn`t it be better to pay them for that, than paying them to set in some camp somewhere. This is just how our left wing media distort everything they report. Put our military to work in this country, instead of having them over seas
    fighting some dumb ass war our goverment won`t let them win.

  • Rosco1776

    Some statistics about the homosexual lifestyle:

    One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3).

    One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.

    Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7).

    Many homosexuals don’t pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: “Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior” (16).

    Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. “Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence” (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels “subjective distress”) (27).

    Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population.

    Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the “gay bowel syndrome” (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27).

    73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13).

    25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11).

    Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film “The Castro”, one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to “cruisy areas” and have anonymous sex.

    78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20).

    Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, “Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities” (10).

    Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, “30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals” (10).

    50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10).

    Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, “Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person” (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality.

    It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10).

    New York Gay parade

    Close-up of one of the New York “Gay Parades”

    Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population.

    Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).

    37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8).

    41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8).

    Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8).

    The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8).

    The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8).

    Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8).

    21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8).

    50% of the calls to a hotline to report “queer bashing” involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals) (18).

    About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12). Homosexuals prey on children.

    33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7).

    There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is “SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.” This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States.

    Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19).

    73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).

    Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: “The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality” (22).

    Because homosexuals can’t reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting “TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT” in their homosexual parades. A group called the “Lesbian Avengers” prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print “WE RECRUIT” on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren’t as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert.

  • Goldenboy

    this Karolyn is a trip. I think she would approve any crime or sin, and feel justified in saying , who am I to judge. Karolyn, there are some things that we must judge as God fearing citizens of this country. If you saw some creep molisting a child, would it be any of your business, if you see someone murder another would that be any of your business…….seeing our society go down the tube because of moral decay, is that any of your business. Exposing children to
    the disgustful acts of homosexuals, and that is none of your business…..if not, just when is it your business and you need to judge…. and to think people like you are allowed to vote and reproduce…….scarry…..

  • http://google Sandra Henley

    Since there was again a mention of Mr. Weiner and his indiscretion, I would like to ask if there is a double standard for sexual misconduct if it involves adultry, fornication, lewdness, pornography where the sinner is stoned by the media and asked to resign? However, if Mr. Weiner had a homosexual indescretion which is an abnormal practice and abomination to God would he have been stoned by the media and asked to resign? All of the above actions be it adultry, fornication, homosexualty, same sex marriage etc. is immorality. I am not God and I don’t judge anyone because we have all sinned. Jesus said, he who is without sin cast the first stone. This country is losing it’s moral compass by rejecting God. So by whose values or standards do we condemn others? Unless Weiner broke the law, he should not have had to resign. It is a matter between his wife, family and God. The government protects the homosexual adgenda so why not protect the adulterer and fornicator. Why not have a parade for immorality across the board not just for gays and lesbians.

  • mark chicoine

    I am a little slow, but I think I get it about the ambulance bombs, they are for the ambulance chasing attorneys fighting
    fighting against al queda

  • steve in AZ

    Cheese ‘n’ crackers, Ben (or Bob) of you’re gonna run in a 1960′s era laughtrack, could you at least get the timing right?

    Maybe it doesn’t matter if what you’re saying isn’t funny.

  • William Langston

    On the issue of homosexual activity, of course it is taught against in the Bible… many things are taught against by their nature and effect being revealed in the Bible. Consider this please, every single thought and activity taught against in the Bible is taught against because it violates the nature of Jesus Christ. As such all such things, when they reach “mature” effect, are destructive to individual dignity, to any hope of continued freedom (which absolutely requires personal responsibility — lacking in all destructive lifestyles and practices, actually, all such are ultimately destructive to LIFE itself.
    I think the most terrifying thing I am seeing/hearing among those commenting on these matters in our culture is that most seem not to realize, or care, that very many accepted or overlooked traits and conditions of life in the west today are equally destructive and end in the same way as homosexual behavior does. Here, for example are some easily found in the Bible: habitual fearfulness, unwarranted harshness, brutality, jealousy, envy, any form or degree of dishonesty (certainly including in and for business), out-of-control passion (“lust” – any kind, focused on anything at all including “success”), killing by individuals or groups not empowered as proper governments (that includes “hatred” which is biblically equivalent with “murder” when focused on another of God’s created people, and especially the open doorway for all the above and all I did not list — the lack of desire for a personal relationship and surrender to Lord Jesus Christ.
    I am sure we have all seen the bumper sticker that reads “God Bless America,” perhaps it is time to write one that says “America, Bless God.” If, in the mercy and kindness of God we are allowed to catch the spirit and sense of this, perhaps our nation will survive and some of our children may actually become “free” human beings again. Who knows what God will do if we really turn to Him and embrace Him from our hearts and not simply in our words. He is a person, the Person; He does not exist to keep us in new toys or with good health. He exists to be loved, worshipped and glorified. Hey, that’s not to bad on us when we decide to give in and let Him be God and us those who seek Him to be our love.
    For the sake of our children and their children, please consider what I have written here. Check it out yourselves; none of this is hidden in a dark corner somewhere. But do look for yourselves, the political arena is not the only place full of weak, dishonest, broken people… so are the pulpits of most religious organizations.

    A good day to you all,
    Bill L.


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