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Presidential Kill List Makes A Casualty Of Another Amendment

February 6, 2013 by  

Presidential Kill List Makes A Casualty Of Another Amendment
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NBC News has obtained a confidential Justice Department memo that outlines the “legal” reasoning behind the decision of the President Barack Obama Administration that it can kill American citizens on a whim.

The white paper states that attacks will take place anywhere outside the United States and that an “informed, high-level” official of the U.S. government may determine that the targeted American has been “recently” involved in “activities” posing a threat of a violent attack. Chillingly, the paper says no clear evidence that the person poses an imminent threat against the United States, its citizens or interests is necessary to justify the targeted assassination. Nor does it define “recently” or “activities.”

For justification of taking the drone war anywhere, the paper cites Congressional authorization that gave President George W. Bush the basis to respond to the 9/11 attacks.

Congress abdicated its responsibility in 2001 when it gave Bush the open-ended authority to send U.S. troops anywhere in the world he wanted to conduct the “war on terror.” With the expansion of the use of drones the mission has begun to creep, as these missions do, and Obama has one-upped Bush. Now, in addition to foreigners, the Obama Administration has decided that it can kill any Americans it decides have demonstrated “terrorist” tendencies — even if they dined at the Pentagon as guests of the United States just months prior to being put on the kill list, as is the case with Anwar al-Awlaki.

As of now, government lawyers have not decided that Americans can be targeted for assassination on U.S. soil. They can, however, be “disappeared” thanks to the National Defense Authorization Act, which allows for the indefinite detention without habeas corpus of any American the government decides is a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer. And the list of who is a “terrorist” seems to grow by the day.

But as the “mission” and the very definition of “terrorist” continue to expand, it defies belief to think that now that Americans on foreign soil no longer have 5th Amendment protections, any semblance of 5th Amendment protections exist for any Americans anywhere.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Vicki

    5th Amendment was violated rather specifically by NDAA 2012. Hard to have due process when you are disappeared. Takes out 1,2,4,6,8 and 9 too.

    • Warrior

      I wonder if this was “sanctioned” by the u.n? Anyway, imagine china “identifies” a chinese “terrorist” located in the good old u.s of a. Shouldn’t they be “allowed” to “drone strike” that person as long as “their” law dictates? Shouldn’t “all” countries have “equal rights”? Let the “drone wars” begin. Shear Madness!

      • eddie47d

        Excellent point Warrior for what goes around comes around. Now I have no love for the coward and traitor Awlaki and don’t miss him one bit. Yet what is to stop another country from “legally” doing the same in America.

      • momo

        Better yet, eddie47d, what’s to stop the feds from killing U.S. citizens in the U.S.?

      • eddie47d

        MOMO; That could be an accepted practice and the American people could buy into it. All someone has to do is label the War On Terror in the same way and no differently than the War On Drugs and enough people will accept it. Instead of SWAT teams and assault weapons they’ll use drones to get the bad guys.

      • TIME

        Dear mamo,

        They have, under GWB one American “Citizen” was shot and killed at his own home oddly both of these men I am noting here ~ were shot and killed in the state of “ARIZONA.”

        The other fine American hero was under Barry Sotoro ~ aka ~ Harrison J. Bounel ~ aka ~. B Obama; or what ever his name is. Again I will point out that no one knows who he really is. How bloody sad is that all by its self, that people will buy a product based on nothing at all, but pure and utter BS.

        #1.) American HERO ~ William Cooper ~ Shot and killed in his yard; 11 / 5 / 2001
        ** ( By the way ) all of you should Google his youtube video and watch and learn something.

        #2.) American HERO ~ William Billy Foust, 6 / 19 / 2011
        ** By the way you all need to google Billy’s youtube videos ~ watch and learn something.

        Just for the record these two were very well know ~ so ~ that begs the question how many others have been killed by these special persons that you all call POTUS ~ that were not high profile.
        We know that the Clintons have a mile long list of whom they have had killed, to think that GWB, or Barry are limited to only a few is utterly absurd, let alone insane.

        Peace and Love, Shalom

      • eddie47d

        I think TIME should find a more reliable hero instead of Wm Cooper. His main claim to fame is saying Kennedy was assassinated because Kennedy was going to expose that extraterrestrials were coming to take over the earth. Obviously that never happened so why believe every conspiracy nutjob out there? Besides Cooper had assaulted his neighbor with a deadly weapon and the police were called. They went to Cooper’s house and he came to the door and he shot and killed a deputy. The other deputy shot back and killed him.

      • TIME

        Dear eddie,

        Oh really? Thats Bill Coopers only claim to fame?
        Well dude ~ That proves you have no bloody clue what your talking about.

        Bill Cooper had 100$ Solid Evidence that proved all of what we see today unfolding that any persons who would not be able to comprehend that is either working as a dod shill or working on the Barry Omen shill wagon of what both ~ forms of these shills can be proved with ease.
        But it requires putting forth some effort, rather than opining on something that one is totaly clueless about.

        PEOPLE do your own RESEARCH ~ stop reading the damm mass media and watching the mass media’s propaganda machine,

        Look into the Congress’s bill that allows them to sell you 100% total propaganda and its now within the LAW, do any of you even know that?

        This bill was passed around; 2007 – 2008 as I recall, but do your own homework as my files are not with me at the moment or I would give you the bill number.

        Wake up, your being sold down the damm river.

        Peace and Love, Shalom

      • Kate8

        eddie – Yet another attempt to ridicule a true truth warrior, William Cooper.

        I listened to him back then. I read his writings. I know what Bill said, and you are dead wrong.

        I urge you to listen to his broadcasts on YouTube. Read “Behold a Pale Horse”… it’s making a resurgence now that what he said is exactly coming to pass. In fact, I think it’s on YouTube, too, incase you have trouble reading.

        Cooper was ex-military. He understood what was afoot. He was brilliant. He told the truth… exposing the plans of the elite too far ahead of their timeline, and they took him out. Shot him, unarmed, in the back, in the doorway of his own home.

        He knew they were coming for him, too. He sent his wife and child away so they would not be killed, too. They called him out of his house and gunned him down. It was a straight up assassination of a patriot and a hero, and we must never allow people like you to smear his name nor his honor.

        BTW, TIME, Alex Jones had something to do with it. His assassination happened after Cooper met with Jones (as has happened to several others who confided in Jones), and Jones stepped up and took his place, even stealing his work. He became the “voice” in the alternative media, and no one has bothered him at all. Imagine that.

        Jones’ wife is Zionist, as is Genesis radio. He meets with Zionists, and he acts like an idiot. I think he is a plant meant to a. spread fear and surrender; and b. make truth-seekers look like lunatics. It’s classic.

      • eddie47d

        A “truth warrior” has to have some decency and righteousness behind him if he wants his “facts” to be accepted. His lack of facts and reckless behavior doomed him.

      • Kate8

        eddie- As usual, it is YOU who are without facts. You defame a great person.

        How on earth can you say such a thing when EVERYTHING he spoke of is now coming to pass.

        Of course, being that you are a shill for the NWO (banking corporations) elite, what else would one expect. You make a habit of popping off about things about which you know less than nothing.

    • Robert Smith

      We know he’s a BAD guy. We know he is a threat to America. We know we had over 3,000 people die on 911.

      So, the question becomes: What do we do?

      Charlie Wilson had it right when he said we should help build schools and allow missionaries to work in Afganistan after the Ruskies left.

      Consistantly the chickenhawks have vetoed civilized ideas and gone in to kick butt.

      What we need is a better way to wage peace.

      Rob

      • Warrior

        Maybe we should teach Afghans how to “fish” and let them build their own scrools. Then again, after reviewing our own success with public edumacation, maybe we should just butt out!

      • Kate8

        If we want to get the real 9/11 perps, we should reroute one of those drones and nuke DC.

      • Robert Wilson

        What we need is a replacement for our counterfeit president, howabout Howdy Doody?

    • restorefreedom

      Guess why everyone is buying guns! The left actually condones these acts and wants to take our guns away and all of rights obviously. Is this not impeachable??

      • jim wilson

        If not, it should be.So far this administration is trying to kill the first, second, and fifth amendments, as well as federal privacy laws. That should be more than enough.

      • eddie47d

        Restore: I didn’t know G Bush was a leftist in starting these drone wars ! LOL!

      • http://angelgirl4him.wordpress.com Angel

        jim wilson says:
        February 6, 2013 at 8:58 am

        If not, it should be.So far this administration is trying to kill the first, second, and fifth amendments, as well as federal privacy laws. That should be more than enough.

        Don’t forget the TSA and the 4th Amendment.

        Bush called for a NWO so did the “pope”. I don’t care if one is a Democrat or Republican…they BOTH have the same agenda. They just have different opinions on how to achieve the desired agenda.

      • Kate8

        eddie – As usual, blame Bush. WHT does that prove?

        Clinton did a lot of really bad things. Both Bushes did bad things. Who cares where the drones started. Obama has implemented them, uses them freely, and is expanding their use to include US. That means HE OWNS IT.

      • eddie47d

        Contraire Kate; Restorefreedom laid the blame on leftists which of coarse isn’t true so I poked back. I thought you were the smart one and would have noticed or was that too glaring for you. .

      • Kate8

        All that matters at this point, eddie, is that Obama is having a field day with drones, and is putting tens of thousands of them all over America.

        He could stop drone use. But he won’t, because he gets off on killing people he doesn’t like.

    • http://www.facebook.com/chylene.ramsey Chylene Ramsey

      Does the NDAA mean we can “detain” Obama and Congress? I know a whole National Guard Unit that would be happy to do it. We can take them all to one of those nice FEMA camps. Petunias, playground and barbed wire.

      • Kate8

        Chylene Ramsey – Well, give us all a contact and we’ll phone them up. We’re ready.

        The problem is, everyone is guv thinks they’re exempt from the laws they foist on we farm animals. And they are all in cahoots, so you won’t find a court who will even listen to us, let alone rule against them. That would mean that they, too, must be held to account.

        It’s complicated. There are some very high-tech forces mobilized against us, and are just waiting for any attempt to quash the current power structure. We’d probably be evaporated in an instant.

        Never before has our government been so heavily infiltrated by the enemy. They’re in every state, county, village.

        I have no doubt that there are also forces working to take them down. It’s just that it involves a whole lot more than just storming the WH. The head of the snake has to be cut off, and that involves foreign powers which command an entire military industrial complex.

  • robert

    i would say that the terrorists have taken over the government a long time ago. look at the terrorist that calls himself president. and all those who follow him and his illegal and immoral acts. to me they are not americans.

    • Robert Smith

      Glad you don’t get to decide who is “American” and who isn’t.

      Remember, no state religion. Your version of “morality” is for you, not the rest of us.

      Rob

      • John

        All
        Wake-up and smell the socialism – Obama and his crony’s are doing the same thing Hitler did, one day we are going to wake up and say – what happened to Freedom, but it will be too late – careful who you trust with liberty, once gone it is hard to get back – we have definetly trusted in the WRONG LEADERS – it is crystal clear to anyone who takes the time to look/read!

      • Mixture V ranks

        It would be interesting to know how many Muslims are being hired for sensitive positions in the State Department, the FBI and various other agencies which are supposed to be working for US interests, i.e. the interests of the American citizen. Example: Secretary Clinton’s assistant has direct ties to Muslim terrorists organizations, e.g. Hamas. Does anyone care? Or in Hillary’s words, what difference does it make?

  • JoeB

    Sure, this won’t be used in the US. The official story will be that it was a “gas explosion”.

  • Jamie

    Robert ,I see the same View we have terrorist running the country gutting/rotting it from within, No thanks to all the Uneducated,ignate voters that put Him there. The followers of His Dream to kill them all if he has a chance.

    • eddie47d

      Jamie and Robert; I believe all the wars in the Middle East have been wrong headed and nothing more than one nation manipulating another. We have done it Russia has done it Iraq has done it and so forth. Yet some of the commentors on PLD are at fault too. How can that be you ask? I have heard close to a hundred times that we should nuke the Middle East and that we should turn all that sand into glass. That we should unleash our firepower and kill all the ragheads. So now that we are killing notorious al Qaida leaders some of you are getting shy and are all worried about their civil liberties. Now that’s a head scratcher! Your willing to kill millions with nukes but get weak kneed when a few dozen al Qaeda leaders go down! That just doesn’t make sense? Don’t those other million dead civilians have any civil rights? Wasn’t it Ronald Reagan and H Bush and B Clinton and G Bush and B Obama who said “we will find them” “We will hunt them down no matter where they hide”. So don’t lay all this chest puffery strictly on Obama.

      • restorefreedom

        First time you ever made sense guess the difference is a bs war or dump the constitution. Although the wars and drone killing are both wrong their is a difference. Neither one honors the constitution or our integrity as a civilized nation.

      • eddie47d

        Correct; Either declare a CONSTITUTIONAL War On Terrorism or completely get out of the Middle East. No false flag wars, no overthrowing of governments, no aiding “rebels”, no air strikes on foreign soil unless CONSTITUTIONALALLY voted on.

  • Right Brain Thinker

    “kill American citizens on a whim”? A WHIM?

    A closer reading of the white paper would lead one to believe that more than a “whim” is needed. Yes, some disturbing aspects to all of this, particularly for the paranoid among us, but we are fighting a rather murky and far-flung battle here. We are no longer standing in long lines and firing volleys at others who are 100 yards away doing the same. And what’s the alternative?

    (And we can thank George W. Bush for starting this whole ball rolling downhill. Actually, we should lay much of the blame at Reagan’s doorstep for his failures in Lebanon in 1983).

    • canoworms27

      As I remember there was a sunset clause on the Patriot Act… but It was codified by the NDAA. A lot of blame to go around on both sides…”Those that give up liberty for security deserve neither” Ben Franklin

    • godhelpus

      Let’s blame everyone except the person that ok’d this. Let’s stop the blame calling and put the blame where it should lie. At The feet of our president that many of you put back into office. He was the one that was hiding it bnut many are to blind to see what is going on.

    • eddie47d

      Maybe we should end the War On Terror and declare a truce godhelpus. What do you think about that? As I posted earlier why lay it all on Obama for this has been going on even before 9/11. Now days every incident has to be called a terrorist attack so that means the War On Terror will be never ending. I suspect drone attacks will become the norm in fighting this war because it is “cleaner” and doesn’t involve American troops. We can all kill the bad guys without leaving our living rooms. We can feel good about it whether through video games or government drones because we are still safe. (at least until the “enemy” gets ahold of their own drones).

      • independant thinker

        Most if not all posters on here recognize the failings of Bush. Bush is no longer in office and has not been for over 4 years. Clinton, Reagan, Carter, and daddy Bush are also no longer in office. Obama is the man at the top now and it is now his show so he gets the blame for all failures or missteps. Obama has done nothing to reduce the use of drones and has in fact increased their use.

      • Robert Smith

        “Obama has done nothing to reduce the use of drones and has in fact increased their use.”

        And that’s a problem because??????????

        Terrorists need to be spoken to in their own language. They use violence. We need to speak that louder than they do.

        Rob

      • Mike in MI

        OH Really, Rob?
        What would you say at this time about what should be done to them if they use torture or some mildly harsh treatment on our soldiers…..or journalists? Say like the lady who was beaten and raped by a bunch of “ordinary” muslim men as she was covering a story in Iran (Ithink it was)? Maybe Egypt. You were dead against us using terrorizing of ladies and children not to long ago. What about the torture question?
        You going to be like the great liberal anti-gun protester Geraldo Rivera after he realized those were real bullets buzzing around his ears? What ho, bobbo?

      • Kate8

        Robert, Robert. You are falling for the oldest trick in the book.

        First you target one group, villifying them so people accept it. Then you target another…

        Are you going to feel oh-so-smugly justified when Obama declares everyone who disagrees with him as an enemy terrorist? Because it will happen.

        The exact same tactics are used over and over again throughout history. It does not change. All they have to do is wait a couple of generations and use them on people who don’t remember, and from whom history is kept hidden. Works every time.

      • Kate8

        BTW, I urge everyone to read this document called “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars”. It tells of the unseen weapons used against us, and the purpose of them. These are things the elite have put together in secret… these documents were not intended for us to see. Or so it is said.

        http://www.scribd.com/doc/124012645/Silent-Weapons-For-Quiet-Wars

        Go all the way to the end. There is a lot of info here; things you need to know.

      • eddie47d

        Mike seems to forget that several Conservatives supported Cheney in using enhanced torture tactics . I much rather get out of these countries but killing a few with drones is more practical than killing thousands as in Dresden or even in Baghdad.

        • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

          Both “sides” have those who can be led. The problem you still need to get over is that there are two ‘sides”.

          There isn’t, not really. Those that are supporting Obama (and remember, many are not “real” people or “real commentators” they are just a software user paid to represent Obama’s side – which if he wre really supproted would NOT be needed). are uninformed, or hiding their head in the sand.

          Where we are now is are we going to support and keep our country, our legitimate government, or become a territory for a world government (UN”s job) and look who the majority of those nations are and how they treat their own people before you make that decision.

          My suggestion if you like what those countries do, is please move there, sooner the better. Because the rest of us do NOT like it and will NEVER accept it.

    • momo

      Yes, RBT, a WHIM! There is no “probable cause”, there is only a government official’s suspicion. Don’t worry about your day in court, because you’re not getting one! And yes, the world has changed, its much more murky as you state, but to give up more freedom for security, means the bad guys have already won.

      • Robert Smith

        Interesting what you call “winning.” Dead and burred just doesn’t seem to be much of a win in my book.

        Rob

    • David Swann

      furthermore who is to say that you or your neighbor or even myself doesn’t one day become a terrorist simply because the rules changed and we weren’t up to speed when they did. For example when Bill Clinton created the Dixie Escalante National monument in Southern Utah there were several long time ranchers who had used that land for decades to range there cattle. With the stroke of a pen they overnight were breaking the law. many of them lost their cattle and their lively-hood because they had no where else to put hundreds even thousands of cattle. They did nothing different from one day to the next but because the rules were changed by the whim of a president they broke the law. if President Clinton can do that why couldn’t President Obama change the rules on what constitutes a terrorist act and expand the war on terrorism to include American citizens? He, President Obama has used the Executive Order pen before to get what he wants what makes you think he would not use it against American people?

      • Robert Smith

        “Despite his 2000 campaign promises to reverse President
        Clinton’s designation of national monuments, President Bush continued litigation
        in favor of the creation of GSENM.21″

        Bush COULD have fixed it, but didn’t.

        For all the details, rather than bleated hysteria, see: http://epubs.utah.edu/index.php/jlrel/article/viewFile/155/135

        Rob

      • Mike in MI

        Have they got the barbed, electrified wire up around Clinton’s little “FEMA camp and resort for conservative Americans volunteered in service to the masses” yet?

    • TML

      “America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity. She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights. She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own. She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right. Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force…. She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit….” – John Quincy Adams 1821

      Return to the prophetic principles of this wisdom as a nation. Cease creating enemies through imperialist policy, and protect the equal rights of all. That is the alternative.

    • Gary Belote

      RBT you seem to have forgotten our 16 dead rangers in Somolia and the bombing of the USS Cole. Seems to me that was a Dem (Clinton). And how about “Jimmy the Tooth”? He overthrew the Shah of Iran. Thats when all this crap got started. By the way….no why the Shah was overthrown.?…he wouldn’t kick-back on a contract to Carters buddy who was going to drop it in Carters campaign chest.

  • jim

    In light of the new government directive…damn sure glad I never espoused overthrow of the current regime in any cyber post

    • Mike in MI

      jim -
      That might not mater at all to “good” ol’ B.O. Plenty.
      Who knows? Maybe your neighbor on one side or the other (or both) did make such a post. In that case you, or anybody else out there, would just qualify as “collateral damage” and part of the cost of making the world safe for Michelle and the girls and the Mhadi.

      • Kate8

        Guess I’m toast, eh Mike in MI?

        We are all aware that it’s a likely scenario… always happens that way. Let’s just hope that those of us who spoke up won’t have done so in vain.

      • Mike in MI

        No, K88 -
        I tend not to think you’re toast. I think you and a bunch of others of us who come here and are doing the yeoman’s work of trying to inform, educate and guide others about what is coming down are doing the “watchman on the wall” job explained in Ezekiel. Bob Livingston (and his wonderful staff), bless his God overflowing heart, has the heart of hearts to take the flak to give us a place to put our heads, spirits and believing power in our own areas of interests and knowledge together to MAKE IT KNOWN.
        Once the story’s told and known then people can make up their minds about whether to get afraid or believe against the dopes, dupes and dragons. Limbaugh, Hannity and most of them aren’t permitted to or don’t want to. (They DO? Tell me…what focus, answers or reality do they present? JUST WHO do they represent…Council on Foreign Relations, others? Or, do they stoke fears and fires of quandry? Do YOU Listen [not asked at you K88]? Listen close. [What's the job of the FCC?])
        If you out there scoff at the “power of believing” ask George Norry or Art Bell about some of the focused believing (prayer, expectation, goals, vigils, whatever you call it experiments done on C2C years ago. They got far more than they expected and abandoned the effort. It was uncontrolled and violent. Why?
        They didn’t confine the people’s expectations to the Promises of God. Nor was it Godly Direction … just untamed mind power and bare human mental effort.
        God doesn’t do stupid things. But He will do things to help, bless and protect those who have covenanted with Him.
        You think this sort of thing is just too weird? Ask the Quantum physicists and scientists who study what energy, matter and ideas have to do with each other.
        I think if enough Christians could agree on some goals we could put a crimp in the actions of the enemy’s outfit.

        • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

          “What’s the job of the FCC?”

          To not allow monopolies or cartels to distort and destroy Americans access to free and varied information. That is why the head of the FCC and the four layers directly beneath, plus all who were in congress since Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, and current need to be arrested for treason. If you need me to relist the treason laws, let me knokw.

          Almost 100% of the mainstream media is owned by seven companies: Disney, NewsCorp, TimeWarner, CBS, Viacom, NBCUniversal, and Sony. They control everything: movies, television, all the major newspapers and news, and even music record labels.
          When one company dominates an industry, it is a monopoly. When a handful of companies cooperatively dominate an industry, it is a “Cartel.” This is what we have with our mainstream media – an elite group that is cooperatively and covertly controlling everything that comes through our television, radio, newspaper, and theater.

          The Supreme Court, Red Lion v. FCC, 1969:
          “It is the purpose of the First Amendment to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail, rather than to countenance monopolization of that market, whether it be by the Government itself or a private licensee. It is the right of the public to receive suitable access to social, political, esthetic, moral, and other ideas and experiences which is crucial here. THAT RIGHT MAY NOT CONSTITUTIONALLY BE ABRIDGED EITHER BY CONGRESS OR BY THE FCC.” (CAPS ARE MINE)

      • Kate8

        It’s true, Mike. God’s people don’t use the power God gave us, because they’ve been taught that this power is “evil”. Power is neither good nor evil. It is in how one uses it. It is in the intent.

        First of all, it comes from the heart, not the mind. And when we align with God’s Power, it is always for the highest good of all. God’s Power invoked and released is an unstoppable Force. It’s how He planned it.

        It does not make sense that He would want His people to be powerless against an enemy which understands this power, and uses it for ill, to enslave us. He is our Power, and we must know how to align with Him.

        If God’s people would stand up, great things could be moved with only a small number of awakened people. What we seem to lack is the ability to come together as One. We talk about it, but that seems to be as far a it goes.

        How about it, Mike in MI? We could do it, and get others to join. Let’s unite our hearts with God, in agreement, and restore freedom to this land. All it requires is entering the Consciousness of the Divine, and calling upon His Perfect Wisdom and Might.

        I say, let’s pray together, united in spirit, and move that mountain. Let our prayers be without ceasing. Only God knows what is true, how to heal humanity.

      • Kate8

        Mike in MI – It’s even more urgent that we think. I just read this and, if true, we have no time to lose. We’d best get to really prayin’…

        http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2013/02/dhs-insider-obamas-cyber-warriors.html

  • marlene parlak

    Well who Is goIng to make Obama dIsappear for hIs terrorIsm. They need to permanently detaIn hIm.

  • Jaynr

    Although I don’t like Obama, I support the ‘Kill List’. This is NOT a political list but one
    that try to eliminate the ones who try to kill innocent Americans.

    • momo

      Your faith is misplaced.

    • http://yahoo.com BillT

      And who decides who a terroist is. A lttle bit ago, it was right wing extremests, returnig soldiers, Maybe they’ll add anyone who belongs to the NRA or the Tea Party, or even the boy scouts.

      • eddie47d

        Back in the 60-70′s any returning veteran who spoke out against the Vietnam War was labeled an extremist. Those who protested that false war were called brown shirts by Spiro Agnew. Blacks who assembled for equal rights were called communists. Hoover had a vengeance on many American citizens who spoke their mind. The fact remains that there are right wing terrorists today as there were a few left wing terrorists back then. The key is to sort out the right of free speech and assembly and who is advocating violence for their cause.

      • Mike in MI

        eddie – sssSOUNDS sensible….
        Just one thing – - – - WHO, pray tell, defines “v-i-o-l-e-n-c-e” and WHO gets protected from it and WHO gets to be “v-i-o-l-a-t-e-d” and to what extent is fair?

      • Robert Smith

        “or even the boy scouts.”

        Boy Scouts are considering undoing their hateful mistake. I hope they do and start working with all Americans again, not just the ones considered “correct” by the extreme religious nuts.

        Rob

      • Buster the Anatolian

        “Boy Scouts are considering undoing their hateful mistake.”

        Nothing hateful or mistaken about it. They are considered a private organization and as such are free to allow or deny the inclusion of whomever they wish. If you do not like their decision start a competing organization based on your moral values (or lack of them). If the people agree with the rules of your organization they will flock to it and the Boy Scout organization will wither on the vine.

      • Mike in MI

        Robt. Smut -
        So, if you’ve got a young boy who’s a scout you want him being led by some chickenhawk or butt buzzard? Haven’t we had enough of the Catholic Church and its horrors wrought on the youth of the world?
        When are you “promoters of what’s fair” going to get it through your thick, stupid heads that there are chemicals in semen that are great for reproduction and for a woman’s body but do AWFUL things to the nervous systems and developmental processes of teenagers and little boys.
        Child molesters and (lest it be mistaken who I’m talking about) homosexuals who prey on, coerce, threaten, beat and /or in any way intimidate so they can defile a child and leave their semen inside them should get the death penalty. Further, the bounds and rules of proof should be low and only one appeal. Serial acts like Jerry Sadnrusty at Penn State should be no appeal straight to the death chamber.

        Sorry for being so circuitous and vague about it.

      • Kate8

        Mike in MI – I completely agree with you. We should have the right of association with whomever we choose, and also to NOT associate with whomever we choose.

        There are valid reasons why homosexuality is called an abomination. It spreads disease, and untold grief. We have the right to protect our children from any potential for harm, and to also protect them from indoctrination.

        If adult males wish to engage in this behavior, as they have throughout time, then they should have to do so in private, like anyone else. Stay away from our kids.

        The Left continually harps about freedom for deviants of all sorts. But they always intend to accomplish this by taking away freedom from those who disagree.

        BTW, I have NEVER heard one liberal pipe up about allowing whites into black organizations, or Asian ones, or any other. Yet whites are always required to accept anyone and everyone.

        I don’t know about the rest of you-all, but I’m way past over it. We need to all be free to choose our own lives. Note to liberals/progs: leave us the heck alone and we’ll leave you alone. There is absolutely no reason why we have to all hold hands and allow overstep of our boundaries if we choose not to do so.

      • Mike in MI

        K88 –
        Go girl, you tell it like it is. You sound like someone who loves freedom or something. It should be true that freedom of association also means the power of dissociation if wanted or needed.
        I’d team up with TIME on any job (of which I’m capable), go anywhere or do anything with a MAN like him…or a WOMAN like you and others who come here. Powerful, intelligent, right-headed, honest, resourceful, able, candid, Lovable and believingly faithful folks.
        O-t-h-e-r-s…?, some of you would be like consorting with an open outhouse hole.
        I hope you feel the same.

        • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

          K88 & Mike, Figuring your discussing Obama’s “assassination of those he determines are ‘terrorists’”.

          What you can do to stop this is find out why those in your states are allowing him and his adminstration to commit murder. Assassination is ALWAYS murder under our laws. Show me where our laws, including the supreme law of this land – US Constitution – state differently.

    • TML

      “Terrorists need to be spoken to in their own language. They use violence. We need to speak that louder than they do.”

      So, you advocate terrorism and support violations of the Constitution.
      The 5th Amendment doesn’t even refer to “citizens”, but instead says “persons”, meaning that all have the right to due process of law, whether they be criminals, terrorists, foreigners, or even American citizens who might engage in treason.

  • steve

    maybe now you will realize that your vote has never counted. the only out is GOD. next to be destroyed will be religion. stay tuned . the best is yet to come.

    • Flashy

      Steve…question…whose god?

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Flashy,

        You write: “whose god?” There is only one, though he is known by several names: I AM, Jehovah, The Father, God. I would be happy to introduce you to Him and He would be even happier to have you in his Kingdom.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • OneGuess

        Flashy…question…do you believe in GOD? (Not “whose god”, just GOD.)

      • S.C.Murf

        The only living God. Because you don’t want to believe or have not heard His voice does not change the fact that He is. Only you in your disbelief will be affected and I will stand as witness against you at the white throne judgement so be looking for me

        up the hill
        airborne

      • Flashy

        Mr. Livingston…that may be your god. but when one decides their god should be paramount above any others, that is when it crosses the line of private worship and is open to question. I do not push my god(s) on anyone, and noticed only christians insist others adhere to their beliefs dominant over all. So i thought i’d ask since each christian sect differs as to what their particular god demands of them.

        I’d be more than happy to introduce you to mine if you desire. They’re a lot more fun…lacking brimstone and Hades and not as…vengeful and punishing. .

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Flashy,

          You write: “I’d be more than happy to introduce you to mine if you desire.” I do not. I know the one true living God.

          You write: “They’re a lot more fun…lacking brimstone and Hades and not as…vengeful and punishing.” And therein lies your problem.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • Robert Smith

        Mr. Livingston says: “There is only one, [god]…”

        Ummmm, what does this commandment mean: ” “‘You shall have no other gods before me.”

        Looks to me like there are other gods, or why would this one want special attention?

        Rob

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Robert Smith,

          You write: “Looks to me like there are other gods,” Man has always foolishly created false gods–whether it’s carving one from wood, forming a calf of gold or worshiping mammon.

          You write: “why would this one want special attention?” Because he is the Creator.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • steve

        r smith. maybe because he created everything including you. either you have faith that the bible is the truth or you don’t. from what you discribe maybe your god is satan. just a guess

      • Mike in MI

        So, Flashy -
        You don’t like a God that asks that we do certain things in a certain way with the system of things He crafted and put together for everybody to enjoy, knowing in COMPLETE depth the intricacy, complexity and fine tuning of everything in the cosmos. He also knows what we might decide to try that will work and what we might try that WON’T work. So, not wanting mankind to, ignorantly, hurt himself or, selfishly, hurt others He sent out a list of “dos” and “don’ts”. He didn’t send out the engineering manuals and specs lists on how to fix it if we break it. So, we can’t fix it or ourselves if we bust ‘em up. He said He’d take care of that if we would worship Him, acknowledge how great He is and thank Him once in a while.
        If you think all this came together by accident or by chance I invite you to search out information on Quantum Mechanics and Quantum Phenomena and what the SCIENTISTS can now show to be the case. Science the way we’ve been doing it for the last 300 years is beginning to close up shop. Really, in a lot of ways they’ve gone about as far as they can go. New systems of things are coming into the fore and they turn much about the old ways of thinking topsy-turvy.
        Socialism is a system of rules and regs for living (philosophy) generated as outgrowths of the technological/scientific revolution that are almost totally opposite to things God instructed will work or that He will have anything to do with. Socialism subtly tears away at the fabric of the things God established for everyone’s well being.
        You don’t want anybody telling you what to do and how to do it? HA!!!
        Wait til the socialist rulers and regulators get to that attitude. They’ll have you in an Obama Re-education Center so fast you won’t have time to yell, “Don’ stick that needle in me.”
        No Christian and certainly not God ever forced you to do anything. They may have invited you a church, asked to join in something or tried to teach you something. But, FORCED you to do anything? That’s a lie! You’re still doing your own selfish thing aren’t you?

  • Kathleen Blanchard

    What if the terriorist or would be (in training ) terriorist happens to live in the United States? Will a drone be sent by the officials to his/her stateside location?

    • Flashy

      I believe there have been cases where terrorists are in the US and found out. Since they are within the normal police powers ofthe FBI etc, it’s a simple matter of arresting them. They’ve been arrested, given a trial with their Rights observed, then jailed for many many years.

      The question is…do Americans retain any Rights when outside the US? If they do, do these Rights extend to all Man and seen as Universal to Mankind?

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Flashy,

        You write: “I believe there have been cases where terrorists are in the US and found out.” Or more accurately, where the FBI has created the terrorists. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-helped-along-by-the-fbi.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
        http://www.salon.com/2011/09/29/fbi_terror/

        Best wishes,
        Bob

      • Flashy

        Mr. Livingston….if given a civilian trial by jury, I believe entrapment may be claimed as a defense. It is a military tribunal or no trial at all (such as has been demanded by many extremists on the right when it comes to Gitmo etc) that the dangers you imply are present.

      • Robert Smith

        Mr. Livingston, why did you offer an “opinion” piece to justify your argument? No facts?

        Here is a good example of how terrorists are handled on our home soil: “News of the arrest became public on Monday, when three of the suspects appeared in U.S. District Court in Riverside, Calif. The trio were charged with plotting to provide material support to terrorists, KTLA reported.”

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/20/four-california-men-arrested-terror_n_2162612.html

        Now, we have FACT vs. an editorial piece of what MIGHT occur.

        Rob

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Robert Smith,

          You write: “why did you offer an “opinion” piece to justify your argument? No facts?” The “facts” are found in the opinion pieces. I suggest you read them, or read them again.

          You write: “Here is a good example of how terrorists are handled on our home soil:” Are you suggesting this article somehow provides information that disputes the links I provided?

          Best wishes,
          Bob

  • ibcamn

    This is how a government takeover is allowed to continue.if this is allowed to pass,it isn’t a point of “if”it is used,but”when”it will be used!and it will be used!this is just another step in the play book of the Marxist take over of America,this will be used to legally kill Americans if “we the people”rise against the government!if we decide to take arms against tyranny,this will be used to subdue the masses of civil unrest,all the gov’t camps being built and stockpiles of ammo and military vehicles(UN and Russian also),it is now clear,beyond a doubt what the progressives,liberals and Obama want to do to anyone who goes against them(him/her)this is happening right under our noses,and Obama is lying to your faces.if a civil war was to break out,what would be the best way to break that spirit of civil unrest?this is why Obama wants this universal background check list,he wants to know where you,the gun owner lives and works,who your family is and lives and if they own guns,he wants gun control.in California,when i lived there,the police would make rounds to peoples homes that had guns in their homes that they bought legally at one time,but then had become convicted of felonies(so you can’t posses any guns)they would storm in and take you and your guns away,so now your deeper in trouble if you didn’t sell those guns,or at least move them out of your “possession”, the law say’s “possession”,not ownership!but yet they keep doing this,if you legally bought and owned a weapon,then had a felony,you can still own a gun but can not posses a gun!!normally you would just move the gun to a family member or friend.which is legal,but not to the California police!be smart people,all this is just a step in the path we are on,the wrong path!the constitution is being thrown out the window and most just look the other way,why?—-”star wars;rise of the drones?!”—and we do have a star wars program!Carney just said,drones to be used for anyone who takes up arms against the “government!”(not against the United States of America)listen to what they are telling us!

  • Rennie

    Under this criteria, it would seem as though Bill Ayers would be at the top of the list?

    • eddie47d

      At one time Ayers was considered a national threat just as today the Alaskan Peackeepers Militia is considered a national threat. Its leader Schaeffer Cox has physically threatened several citizens and public officials. Cox is now in prison and once ran for the House of Representatives. Neither of these men killed anyone but advocated such action. Now Jimmie Lee Dykes also advocated action against the government and was preparing for a standoff in Alabama. He did kill someone and kidnapped to express his anger. How far is anyone willing to push the injustice they see around them and what evil acts are they willing to employ to accomplish their goal?

  • Will

    It’s funny…… I read theses post in hopes to hear people uniting together under awful news….. All I see is a bunch of so called higher educated people nocking other not so fortunate people ……. And lots of name calling…. Paranoid…… If ur smart enough to do the math here in light of this article and your not scared…….. U have no idea what is really going on and r very much apart of the problem. We have been separated and divided……. The world has always been jellouse of America…..we r the only country with free speach equal rights……. Not ruled by a dictator! Do the math people! Quit making fun of each other and pretenting ur smart…… That’s all a bunch of deviant childish garbage! Then maybe we could focus on the problems at hand!

    • Wellarmed

      Hello Will, Cannot agree with you more. Where I live in NM happens to be surrounded not only by the MIC but also conquered peoples of once great Nations. I see the effects of federal dependency on these people and the great sadness that they endure.

      I can only imagine if they had been United despite all their differences amongst the tribes,if the outcome would be dramatically different from what we currently witness.

  • luvsgunsandAmerica

    What’s going to happen when a Muslim nation sanctions a hit on the POTUS ?

    • jim

      short answer…they probably already have…

      • Karolyn

        Uh, gee, I thought conservatives all believe he is a Muslim. Which way do you want it?

        • jim

          Muslims kill Muslims…and Infidels…better get used to it, peace, love and hippy beads…Karolyn!!!

      • Mike in MI

        Karolyn -
        What ? Do you think the usurpers behind the usurper have any ethics or qualms about purging someone as small as ANY national face they elevated to a position they dole out as they please? You’re worse than evian in the emertxe!!! Did somebody salt your oats with Prozac?

  • Flashy

    Now sit back and think. When GITMO was built and filled, the main argument by the rqdical right was that the prisoners had no “rights” (even Americans) as they were nabbed out of the US and the Rights under the Constitution end at our borders. The prisoners were held without trial, without charges, subjected to torture, and at times died. But they had to Rights according to the radical extremists supporting Gitmo.

    Now there is a huge scandal made by the extremists as to snuffing Americans overseas who are involved in plotting against the US. Ummm…y’all protest when foreign dnagers are snuffed?

    Myself/ As with the prisoners in Gitmo, I hold the Bill of Rights are universal to Man. And the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence states Man…not narrowed to Americans.

    At the least, anyone on a snuff list should be given notice of charges and an opportunity to turn themselves in for a civilian trial by jury in the US. The charges and offer should be public. At minimum, these should be in place. .

    • http://www.sweetsalesgirl.com/Kuurus/ Charles Johnson

      Under international treaty each person transported to Gitmo should have been tried for espionage and shot. They where on the field of combat engaged in combat while not under Color of Country.

      • Mike in MI

        Charles –
        you’ve got to understand one thing about Fishly, oops -Fleshy…dern!… Flashman.
        His Color of Country is tinged with the cow pie colors of anarchy. So, he savors the down home odors representative of muslim extremists … a-a-a-an-n-n-d, anybody else who contributes anything to one-worldliness and the law of the jungle.

        • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

          This is at CHarles Johnson, “Under international treaty each person transported to Gitmo should have been tried for espionage and shot. They where on the field of combat engaged in combat while not under Color of Country.”

          Actually you are incorrect. A lot of the people in Gitmo where captured because WE put out a bounty for any turned in – no proof required,just a living body. So all in Gitmo are suspect as actual terrorists. This is used a lot – BOUNTIES for live bodies.

    • Wellarmed

      Agreed Flashy, The Bill of Rights apply to ALL men, not just those fortunate enough to have been born on U.S. soil.

      Torture conducted by our nation is a scar that will never heal.

      I believe those that authorized it should have been given due process and received a sentence commensurate to the offense.

      Instead our past President walks a free man, as does our current occupant of the White House. And to let the world really know where we stand, we just allowed the CIA officer who disclosed the program to the American People to receive a jail sentence for the next two plus years for his “crime”?

  • charles

    Maybe someone needs to ask the question how does NBC obtain a document that congress has been refused access to buy this userper administation, Iam just saying

  • Judy Jackson

    This frightening to me. I understand the motivation behind Awlaki. Everyone knew he is/was a terrorist in the truest sense of the word. However, when the president (whoever that might be) is the only one who gets to decide “someone” needs to killed, that is a tremendous amount of power. What if the president “decides” that a missionary is acting contrary to what he (the president) thinks is “good for America” — does that mean an American citizen who is a missionary and disagrees with the current president (again, whoever that may be at some point in the future) is behaving wrongly and “could become a terrorist in the future, the president can order a “kill?” And when a president (whoever it is) can decide this on foreign soil, what is there to prevent him from doing this same thing on American soil when there may be a multitude of people who disagree with him and are protesting? If the checks and balances in the constitution don’t matter to a president, an no one opposes him through the authority of the US Constitution, what is there to prevent him/her from declaring he/she is the king/queen of America and there will be no more elections?

    • Wellarmed

      Looks like you just nailed it on the head.

  • ATCBILL

    First, if you think you’re God or have divine rights, you need not obey the laws of men. Unfortunately today as people, we have governments, not just in the US but in the UN that have demonstrated that they have no use for or belief in God and that humans are infallible. The people in these governments act as a God or deny that men act in untrustworthy or erronous ways, thus elevating mortals (themselves) to a god like status. Therefore as a god you need not have a bill of rights to protect the people, you know what is best and assume the authority to take action on your decisions. Laws are for men not GODS.

    Second, the problem is not the terrorist the real problem is the reaction of our government to the terrorists. The crazies who killed hundreds of innocent americans on 9/11 had no idea that world governments would sieze the opportunity they created to kill liberty and rights to the unimaginable extent that has happened. They just wanted to kill a few Christians and got to heaven to get rewarded.

    Don’t worry about your rights, when the governments of the world finish protecting us from the terrorist ( soon to be defined as anyone who rembers that individuals have rights to speak, act and own personal property freely) you will have NO rights and the governments will have all the authority. They will control your every action, grant you life or death and you will have no say in the process.

    Don’t count on your current congressman or senate to stop this assualt, they are part of the problem. They create the crisises and use them to nimble away at our rights with the feeble solutions. Politicians answer to the special groups that given them money, including the federal government if they are in a major political party..

    It took about 250 years for this experiment in democracy to start to falter and spin into a tyranny; about the same length of time it took for the colonies to rebell against an oppressive tyrannical government. Let’s hope the solution is not an armed revolution.
    It is time that the people (of the world, not just the US) take back the government. it will not be easy, we will be terrorists if we try, but we must!

    HOW? YOU MUST….
    Get involved in local and state governments and elections; Denounce and trample any attempt to adopt agenda 21 mentality or items at all levels; Support conservative candidates of ANY party, this means putting your money where your mouth is; educate yourself, our family and friends about the Constitution and how the government is SUPPOSED to work. be an activist, yes they will probaly come and take you into the night (if we don’t act soon); Join those artificial astro-turf groups like the Tea party at rallies; signup, read and distribute newsletters and emails from groups like the Grassroots, Americas for Prosperity and the Hertiage Foundation or hillsdale College, Get off your butt, nobdy else can do it but you through actions, words and money ; Watch what government offical(?) and politicians DO, NOT what they SAY, remove the ones that don’t share your values and support personalliberties/civil rights and constitutional government.

    May God may mercy on our souls if we don’t for the government won’t.

  • USN retired

    I am truly glad to see that the real intentions of Obama and this Bush debacle has come to light. When this was first revealed I envisioned that fowl play would ensue and be turned onto the American people for using the their constitutional right of free speech . Now if Obama gets his way without the congress doing something, we and his political opponents, including congress, can, no will, be declared potential enemies of the US and disappear; Gestapo and KGB tactics. That was a Democratic Congress that passed that resolution. Knee jerk law making has become a routine in our congress. Situational laws should never make it through as a law without automatic rescission included to prevent rogue politicians and presidents from using them for their perverse agendas.

  • An honest man

    Now I know why they want to take our guns away, If this is permited to proceed into law your life and mine will not be worth anything if our government decide we are a threat..

  • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

    Hello! Anyone awake out there?

    Assassination = Murder – plain and simple. The USA does NOT have any assassination laws, never had, never will. No president, congress, person on the cornor etc has ever been given the power to assassinate, make assassination lists, etc. It is not better then what happened in the theater, the schools, what gangs (and others) do regularly.

    This is just Murder with a fancier name. Nor does it matter where it is carried out; here in the USA or a foreign nation (except more laws will be broken), or who carries it out, The group who planeed it, Obama who ordered it, the people who carry it out are committing murder – a criminal act here in the USA. NOthing else but murder. Get it through your heads. You are talking like Obama has the “power” lawfully instead of labeling it exactly what it is; MURDER. At time it may even be or has already been, MASS MURDER.

    Quit letting them give you names that sound legit when it is already covered under our alws under our US Constitution. It is MURDER. That is all. Do not call it anything else. You give it a legitmate standing when there is none. Call for all the MURDERS to be arrested for the Crime of MURDER. Don’t dress it up.

    /shakes head sadly

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    Gun control was invented by the liberal watchdogs to ensure that the Red States never again attempted to secede from the Union. It was also created to deter logic from ever entering the debate on Criminology. The city of Chicago is a perfect example of how well it serves to prevent gun violence.

    Seeing as how us armed criminals have a penchant for felony murder, rape, and robbery, liberals were certain that misdemeanor gun charges would deter criminals from carrying guns. These rules are easily enforced since everyone knows that all guns used in crimes are purchased in federally licensed gun stores by licensed individuals who register the guns are leave the serial number intact. There is no way that criminals would purchase or steal unregistered, black-market firearms with their numbers filed off.

    Keeping guns away from homeowners with families to protect makes perfect sense because they can always call the police. That is, assuming that they wake up in time and the police are just a block away. Like the police motto goes, “when seconds count, we’re just minutes away.”

    Guns are bad. Period!

    Guns kill people, much in the same way that pencils make spelling mistakes and computers commit internet fraud.

    If you use a gun to defend your life, there is a 100% chance that the criminal will disarm you and use your own gun against you, even though the criminal will probably be carrying a weapon of his own.

    The average law abiding citizen does not have the skill required to use a gun in self defence properly. Guns are extremely complicated devices, that can only be used properly by Nasa trained, super-police officers.

    Guns are an extremely easy and simple way for criminals to murder people.

    We must ban all guns because there are thousands of unstable lunatics out there who will get hold of them and kill dozens of innocent people.

    Those who argue that they need guns to defend themselves from unstable lunatics are clearly paranoid.

    Only the police and military can be trusted with guns. Be warned, pro-gunners (AKA Pro baby murderers) will try to tell you that the most deadly shooting spree in history was carried out a by a South Korean police officer using police issue weapons. This is a lie. No police officer or military person has ever abused their position or had a mental breakdown and kill a bunch of people, ever.

    Gun Control Advocates

    Many of the worlds most rational and balanced politicians in history have been strongly in favour of and have implemented strict gun control, all to the imense benefit of their peoples:

    Adolf Hitler
    Benito Mussolini
    Mao Zedong
    Josef Stalin
    Pol Pot
    Idi Amin
    Fidel Castro
    Kim Jong Il
    Joe Biden
    Lucy Cope
    Tony Blair
    Rep. Carolyn McCarthy
    Barack Hussein Obama
    Sen. Charles Schumer
    N.Y.C.Mayor.Michael Bloomberg
    William Jefferson(Bill)Clinton

    A few whining women have complained that gun control is sexist. This is a simple minded fallacy spouted by red leader Sarah Palin. If there is anything the world has learned from anime, it’s that a 300lbs. rapist will easily be defeated by a 105 lbs, 15 year old school girl. There is hardly any case to be said that a woman might need a gun to protect herself against biologically stronger opponents.

    Since gun control frequently targets low-caliber, low-recoil, easily-concealed handguns that women favor, it is doing a great job of protecting those otherwise at-risk rapists. What kind of politician would want to have his state’s rapists at risk of armed female reprisals?

    The gun nuts who so foolishly cling to their cause of “self-defense” cite the Constitution as an excuse to remain dangerously armed. So what if the 2nd amendment says that Americans have the right to be armed? So what if the Supreme Court ruled that the right applies to individuals and not the state militias? Since when does the Supreme Court interpret the law? The Constitution says that it is their job, but no one cares. Everyone knows that old parchment is worthless. America now exists to be regulated by liberals who have your best interests at heart, just like Dr. Kevorkian. But since the liberals don’t really go by the Constitution anyway, why should they start with this part?

    Gun control supporters target a group of guns that they call assault weapons, which are rarely used in crime. The fact that they are rarely used is proof that gun control works! The term assault weapon was created by the liberal media to describe a group of scary guns that have military-like features. None of them have automatic fire, but since they look like they do, it is easy to say that someone will modify them to shoot that way.

    The Federal Assault Weapon Ban (expired 2004) was so successful at stopping crimes committed with assault weapons that the government did not have to renew it! The mechanics of assault weapons make them safer to use. Things like standard capacity magazines, pistol grips, barrel shrouds (the shoulder things that go up), flash suppressors, muzzle compensators, and telescoping stocks allow a homeowner to more readily defend their homes. Otherwise, criminals will not have a fair access to your possessions, wife, children, car, house, or a fair chance to kill you before the police arrive.
    editConclusion

    In closing, gun control denies women and the elderly the ability to fight back against attackers. It creates a group of easy prey for criminals. It bans guns with features that make them safer. It tears a Constitutional Right straight out of the hands of citizens. It is also a fasionable cause that celebrities and scientologist love.

    In short, Gun Control makes perfect sense! -Uncyclopedia

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  • tony newbill

    The financial crisis was all by design to gain control of the Free market to install consumption controls to save Earth from Overpopulation ; http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/s_p.php

  • TML

    “Were the target of a lethal operation a U.S. citizen who may have rights under the Due Process Clause and the Fourth Amendment, that individual’s citizenship would not immunize him from a lethal operation. Under the traditional due process balancing analysis of Mathews v. Eldridge, we recognize that there is no private interest more weighty than a person’s interest in his life. But that interest must be balanced against the United State’ interest in forestalling the threat of violence and death to other Americans that arises from an individual who is a senior operational leader of al-Qaida or an associated force of al-Qaida and who is engaged in plotting against the United States.”

    So in other words, they recognize that these kinds of operations, pseudo-authorized by the NDAA, are blatant violations of the 4th and 5th Amendments… and they attempt to justify this with the further violation of Section 3 Clause 1. These laws need to be repealed. We have become the very definition of a despotic nation.

  • ONTIME

    Wait until these lefties subvert the 2nd amendment, your remaining inalienable rights won’t mean squat and you will be droned and shot just like a ordinary terrorist. Without the 2nd there will be not way to defend yourself, family or property and only the states’ law will apply……I believe the right to selfdefense is prolife…

    • mark

      Right, ON TIME, because you can stop a drone with a shotgun, a pistol, or a semi-automatic assault rifle. That is what all those Jihadists from the Middle East do. They are all armed to the teeth and because of this, not a single one of them has ever been killed by a federal government drone. Drones only work against disarmed people. Against slaves. Those hundreds of heavily-armed jihadists killed by federal drones over the last ten years. Obama disarmed them all first by outlawing guns in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Mali and Libya. Yeah haven’t you heard that – none of these Islamists in the Middle East are armed. That’s the only reason why the gov’t drones can kill them. No guns are allowed in the Middle East. And that is the only reason any Muslims die there. If people in the Middle East were only all heavily armed, if the only all had assault rifles, then they’d all be safe today.

      Yeah, right….

  • mark

    This is all lies. I can’t believe any of you would believe something from the lame stream media. NBC News! Next you’ll be quoting stuff from the New York Times! Don’t you know that these guys are all in Obama’s hip pocket! They never write anything negative about him. You have stated this over and over again in article after article. The Liberal News Media lies! And now suddenly now, you are asking me to believe them? When all they do is lie, lie , lie, lie, day after day, year after year. The Liberal Media is nothing but a bunch of filthy liars. Don’t believe one single, solitary word they say! If they tell you it is day, it is actually night. If they tell you the Pope is Catholic, you just know he’s a Muslim. I can’t believe you are falling for this?! NBC News!!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

      I don’t think he is asking you to believe it (NBC new on Obama’s ‘justification’ for murder.)

      I think he is pointing out that Obama and his adminstration is trying to put it into the heads of those who don’t use their minds that there might be a ‘justification’ for him committing murder since we have them (his supporters) questioning it themselves.

      They do pretty much accept any ‘justification’ he gives them. They accept straight out lies, this is another. There is NO lawful means for murder (assassination) here in the USA.

      It is just murder and lies again.

  • J J

    First of all, your source is from NBC News and you trust them to tell the truth without any agenda??

    Second, Congress is forever doing something, giving permission, giving open-ended authority in the face of crisis without a thought to a closing end. Then the next stupid guy comes in and finds this open-ended authority and misuses it or abuses it. And just who is going to stop him?

    I think this kill list is illegal and unconstitutional. I believe there is a due process issue to deal with and Obama’s kill list doesn’t leave any room for that. I am concerned about Obama’s power grabbing at every turn on any subject.

  • Bernie

    This Administraition is without doubt the most corrupt in American History. Truth is not an option, lieing is a way of life as is killing anyone who opposes them. This is what God declares the last days when man declares to the world that bad is good and that good is bad. It is a great time to be alive for Christians as well because the Rapture is sure to happen soon, come Lord Jesus Come quickly…

    • mark

      If Jesus came back today, you guys would all kill Him with an semi-automatic assault rifle instead of nailing to the cross like the Romans did. Ever read all the stuff Jesus spouted all the time, a typical bleeding-heart liberal progressive wanting to help the poor, the sick, the crippled, the homeless. You guys would string a liberal like Him up on the nearest lynching tree. He was obviously an Obama type always crying about the sick, the poor, the unemployed, a G.damned socialist if you ask me

      • Mike in MI

        mark –

        I suppose, as long as you make no attempt to comprehend The Book from the point of view of a Middle Eastern Hebrew of 2,000 years ago (or learn about that culture), their manner of speaking and teaching and reasons for doing what they did, you can say anything you want. If you plug those ideas into the mental traits and habits of a contemporary, drug soaked brain of a God forsaken, unethical, selfish hedon who never learned right from wrong you will feel justified saying whatever you want…’cause it makes you “FEEL” good – so do it.
        Just make sure you stay locked-in to the conviction that there is no (can not be any) ultimate TRUTH. That way you’ll feel safe..’cause that’s what you’ve always been taught and that’s the socially applause worthy way to think and talk.
        In other words, don’t study The Book. Just BLAH, BLah, blagh about it. You’ll be considered avante’ by most…savant by a few (“idiot” type).

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Hey, mark

        Have you looked in on the website Jesus Is A Liberal? Hasn’t been real active lately, but it’s very interesting, particularly the subsection labelled “hate mail”. A few excerpts from “hate mail” follow. From some folks who apparently consider themselves to be the “true” Christians. .

        “You guys f***ing suck…..god and jesus wouldn’t have political views….jesus isn’t a f***ing hippie! he was our savior….you cant tie politics to religion….one has nothing to do with the other…so f*** off or I’ll sacrafice you to Satan by crucifying you on an upside down cross” Someone claiming to be “Arioch” ~ February, 2006

        “You’re full of s**t. Jesus would never be a liberal. It is based on lies and deception.” Jesus W. ~ August, 2005

        “I have to tell you frankly that what I read was even more pathetic and theologically twisted then I was expecting! If one defines liberal as generous and loving, then yes, Jesus was a liberal. But that is where the similarities would end.” Ronald D. ~ July, 2005

        “You must accept that Jesus is deeply grieved by the message you are sending. Stop defaming Jesus! Shut down your website! Accept the true Jesus into your heart and you will be forgiven or wat you are doing will be punished severely in this life and the next.” J. Hollis ~ July, 2005

        “You are a heroin using homosexual pedophile liberal jew.” Anonymous ~ July, 2005

        Sounds to me like mark is correct when he says, “If Jesus came back today, you guys would all kill Him”. Yeah, Jesus was just a type of “G.damned socialist” (or communist, Marxist, fascist, progressive whatever) and surely would deserve to die.

        Mike in MI says we need to “comprehend The Book from the point of view of a Middle Eastern Hebrew of 2,000 years ago (or learn about that culture)” and admonishes us to “study The Book”. I’ve tried to do that and have run into a few problems. There are maybe 600 versions of The Book floating around in just English alone, and a lot of folks spend a lot of time arguing about which one is the best and what the words mean. When one asks which of two contradictory statements in The Book is true, one is told “They both are”. When one asks “how can that be?”, one is told “Because every word in The Book is the true Word of God, even when it contradicts itself”. When one looks back to 2500-3000 years ago, one finds that the Old Testament was probably written by six or more authors, and in an archaic and dead language that was hard to translate even 2000 years ago. Then the Universal Church “played games” with the Bible, suppressing certain books and editing others down through the years. Seems to me that the “BLAH, BLah, blagh” comes from those who seek not to learn from The Book, but to use it to justify some pretty UN-Christian attitudes.

        One that my Bible-thumping friends always lay on me is from 2 Thessalonians 3:6-15 .
        “Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the tradition which you received from us. For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example, because we did not act in an undisciplined manner among you, nor did we eat anyone’s bread without paying for it, but with labor and hardship we kept working night and day so that we would not be a burden to any of you; not because we do not have the right to this, but in order to offer ourselves as a model for you, so that you would follow our example. For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order; if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either. For we hear that some among you are leading an undisciplined life, doing no work at all, but acting like busybodies. Now such persons we command and exhort in the Lord Jesus Christ to work in quiet fashion and eat their own bread. But as for you, brethren, do not grow weary of doing good. If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of that person and do not associate with him, so that he will be put to shame”.

        While we’re looking in The Book for guidance, let’s look at some other passages that might give us some idea of where Jesus would stand today.

        I always respond to that with an excerpt from Matthew 7:1-29 (which also has much significance for many PLD posters on many threads)
        “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. …”

        • ” Because of the oppression of the weak and the groaning of the needy, I will now arise, says the LORD, I will protect them from those who malign them. ” Psalm 12:5
        • “My whole being will exclaim, Who is like you, 0 LORD? You rescue the poor from those too strong for them, the poor and needy from those who rob them.’” Psalm 35:10
        • “He will defend the afflicted among the people and save the children of the needy; he will crush the oppressor.” Psalm 72:4
        • “Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless; maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed. Rescue the weak and needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.” Psalm 82:3-4
        • “I know that the LORD secures justice for the poor and upholds the cause of the needy.” Psalm 140:12
        • “He who despises his neighbor sins, but blessed is he who is kind to the needy.” Proverbs 14:21
        • “He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.” Proverbs 14:31
        • “He who mocks the poor shows contempt for their Maker; whoever gloats over disaster will not go unpunished.” Proverbs 17:5
        • “He who is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward him for what he has done.” Proverbs 19:17
        • “If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered.” Proverbs 21:13
        • “He who gives to the poor will lack nothing, but he who closes his eyes to them receives many curses.” Proverbs 28:27
        • “The righteous care about justice for the poor, but the wicked have no such concern.” Proverbs 29:7
        • “Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy.” Proverbs 31:9
        • “The scoundrel’s methods are wicked, he makes up evil schemes to destroy the poor with lies, even when the plea of the needy is just.” Isaiah 32:7
        • “If you spend yourselves in behalf of the hungry and satisfy the needs of the oppressed, then your light will rise in the darkness, and your night will become like the noonday.” Isaiah 58:10
        • “‘He defended the cause of the poor and needy, and so all went well. Is that not what it means to know me?” declares the LORD.” Jeremiah 22:16
        • “Sing to the LORD! Give praise to the LORD! He rescues the life of the needy from the hands of the wicked.” Jeremiah 20:13

    • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

      “God helps them that help themselves.” (has a long history)

      My question is since you realize this, what are you doing to stop it?

      Some suggestions: read your state constitution, find out EXACTLY what oath is required of those who are your representatives and those who are your stae representatives in congress & senate.

      If they supported any thiing like Patriot Act extension, NDAA, warrant-less anything, etc REQUIRE their immediate removal from office as the law states, and subsequent arrest and prosecution. Same with jduges who are using other then Constitutional alw – as in THIS nation only constitutional law can be lawfully used. REQUIRE the relesae of any who had any international law used to incarcerate them – it was NOT a lawful incarceration. Remember that UN’s Agenda 21 is also a criminal, civil, and treasonous act and start requiring all groups, individuals, businesses, corporations (heads of) be investigated, arrested, and prosecuted. Require nullification of it also.

      Starting with the list of civil offenses, then will go to criminal for those who do NOT take and keep the Oath of office. Once your state is cleaned up, it is THEIR duty to arrest and prosecute those within the fed gov who also committed those cirmes.

      Article VI, Clause 2 of the US Constitution: “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”

      The Constitution of the United States of America IS the Supreme Law of this land, NOT those who serve within the federal government.

      The first law statute of the United States of America, enacted in the first session of the First Congress on 1 June 1789, was Statute 1, Chapter 1: an act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths, which established the oath required by civil and military officials to support the Constitution.

      The wording of the Presidential Oath was established in the Constitution in Article II, Section 1, Clause 8.

      ‘Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”’

      The Framers placed the presidential Oath of Office after the beginning clauses setting forth the organization of the executive department, and before the ending clauses that specify the contours of the President’s assigned power. The President takes the oath after he assumes the office but before he executes it. The location and phrasing of the Oath of Office Clause strongly suggest that it is not empowering, but that it is limiting – the clause limits how the President’s “executive power” is to be exercised.

      The requirement for all Federal and State Civil officers to give their solemn and binding Oath is established in Article VI, Section 1, Clause 4.

      They are bound by their Oath to support the US Constitution, and should they abrogate their Oath by their acts or inaction, are subject to charges of impeachment and censure – political remedy for a political offense; civil and criminal charges.

      “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

      Once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge.

      Solemn: “Legally binding, Common legal phrase indicating that an agreement has been consciously made, and certain actions are now either required or prohibited. The other requirement for an agreement or contract to be considered legally binding is consideration – both parties must knowingly understand what they are agreeing to”
      .
      Bound: “Being under legal or moral obligation; to constitute the boundary or limit of; to set a limit to; confine”

      Legally Binding: Common legal phrase. Lawful action, such as an agreement consciously agreed to by two or more entities, establishing lawful accountability. An illegal action, such as forcing, tricking, or coercing a person into an agreement, is not legally binding. Both parties knowingly understand what they are agreeing to is the other requirement to legally establish an agreement or contract.

      Consideration: “Consideration in a contract is a bargained for exchange of acts or forbearance of an act.”

      Require, Requirement, Required: Mandated under a law or by an authoritative entity. “To claim or ask for by right and authority; That which is required; a thing demanded or obligatory; something demanded or imposed as an obligation.”

      Contract: “An agreement between two or more parties creating obligations that are enforceable or otherwise recognizable at law.”

      The Framers placed the requirement for “Oaths of Office” in the Constitution. These Oaths are to function as “checks” on the powers of the federal government and protect us from usurpations.
      Each Branch of the federal government has “the check of the Oath” on the other two branches. The States, whose officials also take the Oath of Office, have the same check on all three branches of the federal government. And “We the People”, the “original fountain of all legitimate authority” (Federalist 22), have the Right to overrule violations of the Constitution by elected and appointed officials.

      Webster’s 1828 Dictionary says for “Constitution”: “…In free states, the constitution is paramount to the statutes or laws enacted by the legislature, limiting and controlling its power; and in the United States, the legislature is created, and its powers designated, by the constitution.”
      If any Branch fails to obey the “supreme Law”, then, in order to preserve the Rule of Law, the other Branches, or failing that, the States or the people, must overrule them”.

      Federal law regulating oath of office by government officials is divided into four parts along with an executive order that further defines the law for purposes of enforcement.

      5 U.S.C. 3331, provides the text of the actual oath of office members of Congress are required to take before assuming office.

      5 U.S.C. 3333 requires members of Congress sign an affidavit that they have taken the oath of office required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and have not or will not violate that oath of office during their tenure of office as defined by the third part of the law,

      5 U.S.C. 7311 which explicitly makes it a federal criminal offense for anyone employed in the United States Government to “advocate the overthrow of our constitutional form of government”.

      18 U.S.C. 1918 provides penalties for violation of oath of office described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 which include: (1) removal from office and; (2) confinement or a fine.

      The definition of “advocate” is further specified in Executive Order 10450 which for the purposes of enforcement supplements 5 U.S.C. 7311.

      Executive Order 10450 provision specifies it is a violation of 5 U.S.C. 7311 for any person taking the oath of office to advocate “the alteration … of the form of the government of the United States by unconstitutional means.”

      Our form of government is defined by the Constitution of the United States. According to Executive Order 10450 (and therefore 5 U.S. 7311) any act taken by government officials who have taken the oath of office prescribed by 5 U.S.C. 3331 which alters the form of government other then by amendment, is a criminal violation of the 5 U.S.C. 7311.

      I am sorry I still have not verified this, I have been so busy:

      Title 18 United States Code Section 926 (Federal law Gun Control Act of 1968) makes it a FEDERAL FELONY for ANYONE to require a gun registration list of ANY kind if at any time said list in any way can or will be used as a gun confiscation list.

      Has anyone else verified it?

  • http://gravatar.com/dalene44 dalene44

    One consolation is that dictators tend to turn on their blind loyalists because they were so easy to dupe.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

      “NBC News has obtained a confidential Justice Department memo that outlines the “legal” reasoning”

      There is no legal reasoning for murder – assassination) just excuses and propaganda (LIES). There are NO lawful means to murder people in the USA. Obama and his adminstration is just lying once again.

      It is true that they turn on their dupes – the biggest reason is that they feel that they are the ones who will take betrayal harder and will become enemies (historically). Some examples that will make tough enemies that Obama are using today is the New Black Panthers. They support him because of things they share – not just skin color. Corruptness in Chicago, they believe he is making a change for the better for those who live in lower class areas, when if they bothered to research they would discover that he has made it worse for them since being in office. Since they are a “militant” group they are useful now, but will make great enemies when they discover the truth.

      Those paid shills may be doing it for a paycheck, but “just doing my job” (if we ‘win’) or “I supported you” (if they win) will not save them if they are not deemed “useful” to the domestic enemies and the traitors. They will usually be the first to go. How can they be trusted? They sold their country, neighbors, friends and family out for $$. Those are the least trusted of all.

      For us, we will arrest and prosecute them all. They will have no defense.

  • Jimbo

    The US was a signatory to the Geneva convention which prohibits torture. Now we’ve become experts at it. We waterboard, make detainees squat for endless hours, deprive prisoners of sleep, bombard them endlessly with ear shattering noise, etc. etc. And when that fails to extract the requisite confession, we ship them to foreign countries where their fingernails can be pulled out, and genitals shocked with cattle prods.

    So no surprise that the government now thinks they can kill us without trial. But what is REALLY scary is that this same nation, which has more in common with Nazi Germany and Stalin’s USSR, than people think, has a massive nuclear armament. Our leaders complained about Iraq, and Iran, but those countries never dropped the bomb or threatened to do so. But Bush and Hillary threatened to nuke both countries.

  • JM A Kicker

    Bob Livingston, another coward, but he cries when terrorists win. What soes he want to adopt killers?

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear JM A Kicker (aka joe bieliunas, Aware, Tired of ___________, brazzos, Not Blind To Facts, bratsos, brazzos, braxos, braxxos, Well-Informed, Reader Never Forgets, My Own Man, Romney, Truth Hurts, Psychiatrist, Citizen Uprising, Ides of March, Brazen, Bigot hater, Foghorn Leghorn, Independent Voter, Private Sector Worker, Born Here, Been There, Intolerant of GOP Lovers, Hunter, Working Man, Intolerant of Fools, Urban Dweller, Democratic Patriot, ex-pat, Truth Be Told, Tired of BS, Tired of Fools, American Driver, Uninterested, American Consumer, Family of Coal Miners, American, Truth Be Told, American Patriot, Blood, Working Woman’s Advocate, Against Cowards & GOP, American Working Man, Revolutionary Thinker, Middle Class Man, A Patriot),

      You write: “Bob Livingston, another coward, but he cries when terrorists win. What soes he want to adopt killers?” So we get another post in a long line from you and your many twisted personalities that contain only ad hominems and logical fallacies. If you are a student at Thomas Jefferson University, your skull remains full of mush and you’re wasting your time on an education at this juncture. If you are an employee of the school or hospital, do your employers know you are using the Thomas Jefferson University computers to post this tripe when you should be working? I trust you are not the school’s debate professor. For if you are you are doing a disservice to your students and the school. As I told you following one of your prior insults directed toward me, Mr. Jefferson is certainly spinning in his grave over your ignorance.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Uh, Bob

        May I suggest that you are perhaps overreacting as well as playing a little “dirty pool” here? I took a chance coming to PLD in that one always opens one’s “business” to others to some degree by visiting websites, but I never thought I was being watched more closely by PLD than the NSA and other “government” agencies that get paid to spy on me. You may be upset that “AKA all of the above” has called you a name, but does that justify shaking the confidence of all the rest of us in the “security” of our communications with PLD? Looking at the PLD Privacy Policy (excerpt below), you gather an awful lot of info on us and it wouldn’t take much effort to really do some dirt with it.

        “Examples of the information we collect and analyze include the Internet Protocol (IP) address used to connect your computer to the Internet; login; e-mail address; password; computer and connection information such as browser type and version, operating system, and platform; purchase history, which we sometimes aggregate with similar information from other customers to create new features; the full Uniform Resource Locator (URL) clickstream to, through, and from our Website, including date and time; cookie number…..During some visits we may use software tools such as JavaScript to measure and collect session information, including page response times, download errors, length of visits to certain pages, page interaction information (such as scrolling, clicks, and mouse-overs), and methods used to browse away from the page”.

        If I were to venture a guess, I would say “AKA all of the above” is likely to be a small group of geeky, left-leaning students at Jefferson who have formed a “Let’s Make Bob Livingston Crazy” club.and are having a wonderful time at your expense. And I can’t recall reading anything from any of them on PLD. Why bother? “Getting” him/them in a way that shakes our confidence in PLD’s integrity seems to be a high price to pay.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Right Brain Thinker,

          You write: “May I suggest that you are perhaps overreacting as well as playing a little “dirty pool” here?” You may suggest whatever you want as long as it doesn’t violate the comment policy.

          You write: “If I were to venture a guess, I would say “AKA all of the above” is likely to be a small group of geeky, left-leaning students at Jefferson who have formed a “Let’s Make Bob Livingston Crazy” club.and are having a wonderful time at your expense.” And you would guess wrong. These drive-by ad hominems from Joe have been occurring for approximately two years now and have grown tiresome. He has attempted to avoid scrutiny by attempting to change his identity. This is designed to let him know he’s a failure.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Thanks for the reply, Bob, but you may have missed the point I was trying to make. You have our e-mail addresses and have identified all of the AKA’s Joe uses from one or more computers at Jefferson.. Couldn’t you just send him/them a private message that you were on to his game rather than send this public message? You not only opened Joe to “scrutiny” (and I never knew he existed), but also raised questions about the things I cited.

  • BR549

    “…… the decision of the President Barack Obama Administration that it can kill American citizens on a whim.”

    Yeah, but just look at how much they get their panties in a knot when someone has the audacity to suggest applying that decision in reverse.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kansas.bright Kansas Bright

      That does not make it lawful, BR549.

      Want to stop things like this? Require your state government to stop these things as tehy are supposed to. This is what I wrote to the Governor of California. Feel free to use it as a template substituting your state constitution, state oath of office, and Governors name.

      Governor Brown:

      Let me remind you of the lawfully required and LEGALLY binding Oath of Office you took. There are many unlawful laws, bills, oath breakers, acts of treason, etc that you have not stopped as per the assigned and sworn duty of enforcement of lawful laws assigned to California’s Governor. Below is a list of these, and the applicable laws that you and the state Attorney General should have been enforcing, banning, or nullifying. Why haven’t you? (caps are mine)

      As for as any gun regulation: one construction that is indefensible would be “the right to arms only covers members of a well-regulated militia.” This is indefensible for the reason given by Judge Cooley (listed below): “only the government can create a well-regulated militia, and hence a right limited to such a group would be of no value as a check upon government.” That individual’s have the right to keep and bear arms for the purpose of: Aymette v. State – “to keep in awe those who are in power (listed below, plus others confirming it).”

      Firearm permit systems: How does the concept of making a check upon government abuses contingent upon obtaining a governmental permit make sense? It is unlikely to have been within the contemplation of the Framers since the main purpose of the Second Amendment was to make sure that the people were armed enough to protect themselves from government tyranny (Framer and other quotes below).

      The same goes for registering firearms. There is little to be said for registration as a crime-fighting tool, but it does hand the government a convenient list of which citizen owns which firearms would certainly undermine any purpose of deterring tyranny. So if you are aiding and abetting the takeover of our nation, our state that would be treason. If you are not, why have/are you not enforced/ing these laws?

      “A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership….” Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

      Ca Constitution Art 20 Misc Subjects, Sec 3:

      “I, ______, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, foreign and DOMESTIC; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties upon which I am about to enter.
      “And I DO FURTHER SWEAR (or affirm) THAT I DO NOT ADVOCATE, NOR AM I A MEMBER OF ANY PARTY OR ORGANIZATION, POLITICAL OR OTHER-WISE, THAT NOW ADVOCATES THE OVERTHROW OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OR OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA BY force or violence OR OTHER UNLAWFUL MEANS; THAT WITHIN THE FIVE YEARS IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THE TAKING OF THIS OATH (or affirmation) I HAVE NOT BEEN A MEMBER OF ANY PARTY OR ORGANIZATION, POLITICAL OR OTHER-WISE, THAT ADVOCATED THE OVERTHROW OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OR OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA BY force or violence OR OTHER UNLAWFUL MEANS EXCEPT AS FOLLOWS:
      ________________________________________________________________

      (If no affiliations, write in the words “No Exceptions”) and that during such time as I hold the office of ______________________________________________ I WILL NOT ADVOCATE NOT BECOME (name of office) A MEMBER OF ANY PARTY OR ORGANIZATION, political or otherwise, THAT ADVOCATES THE OVERTHROW OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OR OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA BY force or violence or OTHER UNLAWFUL MEANS.”

      It is not just a political offense to not keep the oath of office, it is both a criminal and a civil offense; plus it makes the oath breaker no longer meet the lawful requirements of the office or position that you are occupying. The laws that apply starting with criminal:

      Federal law regulating oath of office by government officials is divided into four parts along with an executive order that further defines the law for purposes of enforcement.

      5 U.S.C. 3331, provides the text of the actual oath of office members of Congress are required to take before assuming office.

      5 U.S.C. 3333 requires members of Congress sign an affidavit that they have taken the oath of office required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and have not or will not violate that oath of office during their tenure of office as defined by the third part of the law,

      5 U.S.C. 7311 WHICH EXPLICITLY MAKES IT A FEDERAL CRIMINAL OFFENSE FOR ANYONE EMPLOYED IN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT TO “ADVOCATE THE OVERTHROW OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL FORM OF GOVERNMENT”.

      18 U.S.C. 1918 PROVIDES PENALTIES FOR VIOLATION OF THE OATH OF OFFICE described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 WHICH INCLUDE: (1) REMOVAL FROM OFFICE and; (2) confinement or a fine.

      The definition of “advocate” is further specified in Executive Order 10450 which for the purposes of enforcement supplements 5 U.S.C. 7311.

      Executive Order 10450 provision SPECIFIES IT IS A VIOLATION OF 5 U.S.C. 7311 FOR ANY PERSON TAKING THE OATH OF OFFICE TO ADVOCATE “THE ALTERATION… OF THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES BY UNCONSTITUTIONAL MEANS.”

      OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS DEFINED BY THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. THUS, ACCORDING TO EXECUTIVE ORDER 10450 (AND THEREFORE 5 U.S. 7311) ANY ACT TAKEN BY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS WHO HAVE TAKEN THE OATH OF OFFICE PRESCRIBED BY 5 U.S.C. 3331 WHICH ALTERS THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT OTHER THEN BY AMENDMENT, IS A CRIMINAL VIOLATION OF 5 U.S.C. 7311.

      The three branches of our government, the military, all law enforcement, THE HEADS OF THE STATES, ALL FEDERAL EMPLOYEES ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE AN OATH TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE US CONSTITUTION AND NOT AN INDIVIDUAL LEADER, RULER, OFFICE, OR ENTITY. Once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge.

      Preamble to the Bill of Rights:

      Congress of the United States begun and held at the City of New-York, on Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.
      THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, IN ORDER TO PREVENT MISCONSTRUCTION OR ABUSE OF ITS POWERS, THAT FURTHER DECLARATORY AND RESTRICTIVE CLAUSES SHOULD BE ADDED: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.
      RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.
      ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

      Note: These amendments form what is known as the “Bill of Rights.” This is the definition the framers used when the made the Bill of Rights. The Founders used the word “unalienable” as defined by William Blackstone in his “Commentaries on the Laws of England”, 1:93.
      The Bill of Rights are “Those rights, then, which God and nature have established, and therefore called natural rights, such as life and liberty, need not the aid of human laws to be more effectually invested in every man than they are; neither do they receive any additional strength when declared by the municipal laws to be inviolable. On the contrary, NO HUMAN LEGISLATURE HAS THE POWER TO ABRIDGE OR DESTROY THEM, UNLESS THE OWNER SHALL HIMSELF COMMIT SOME ACT THAT AMOUNTS TO A FORFEITURE.”

      Inalienable rights: “a right according to natural law, a right that cannot be taken away, denied, or transferred”. “Protected from being removed or taken away” …
      Or if you prefer
      Unalienable: “Not to be separated, given away, or taken away.” “Inalienable or unalienable refers to that which cannot be given away or taken away.”

      Domestic Enemies of the USA defined (FBI website 2009): “Domestic enemies pursue legislation, programs against the powers of the US Constitution. They work on destroying and weakening the Rights of the People guaranteed by the Constitution. Plus they create laws, amendments, bills, executive orders that go against the restraint on the three branches of our government by the Constitution. They are also those who support those in action, or by inaction; vote, voice, money, etc who are going against or trying to weaken the US Constitution and the Peoples written guarantee of the protection of those Rights.”

      You, and the rest of the California government took a lawfully required legally binding oath to “support and defend the US Constitution and the state Constitution” from domestic enemies, not just foreign ones.

      Diane Feinstein needs to be immediately removed from office – as the law requires, then arrested and subsequently prosecuted for breaking her lawfully required and legally binding Oath of Office to the State of California and to the Constitution of the United States of America. Furthermore, the oath(s) are a requirement of office, and must be kept to continue to meet the requirements and to be able to lawfully remain in the office. Breaking the oath of office is both a criminal and civil offense, not only a political offense. It is YOUR duty as Governor of the state of California that you carry out that law immediately.

      I, and many others, have noticed that you as per your lawfully required and legally binding oath and the requirements of the US Constitution and California Constitution have not moved to nullify and/or ban these unconstitutional and unlawful acts/bills/executive orders/etc against all US citizens, the citizens of the state of California: Patriot Act, NDAA, UN’s Agenda 21, Feinstein’s Bill against the 2nd Amendment, Warrant-less spying/tracking/searches/etc, TSA in airports/bus stations/train stations /on our roads/at stadiums/etc, nor Obamacare (Health Care Bill) – which requires the microchipping of all US citizens, plus a create and support a private army paid for by any citizens who are forced to use Obamacare (I suspect, like most, you have not read it)) – which are against the US Constitution/Bill of Rights limitations put on those serving in the federal government; and are against the US Constitution plus California’s State Constitution, which the state’s executive branch sworn duties are to defend, support and enforce.

      Nor have you moved to stop Obama and his administration from planned and carried out murder, which he is calling “assassination powers” that he gave himself – usurpation. There are no laws in the USA that allows for “assassination powers”. Whatever name he gives them, it is First Degree Murder, plain and simple. Why have you not moved on that, as is your sworn duty?

      Why not? Please answer in the Sacramento Bee, and on all corporate media outlying why you are not upholding the lawful and legally binding oath of office and are not removing Feinstein and arresting and prosecuting her.

      Plus why you are not banning or nullifying those unconstitutional, hence unlawful acts, bills, executive orders as your position requires.

      Why you are not moving against Obama, Panetta, Dempsey for Treason where they declared that they gave authority OVER the USA and the US Military to the UN. That they declared that they get their authority from the UN, NOT from the US Constitution or the USA which is the only legitimate and lawful authority here in the USA. Plus for various other criminal and civil offenses he and his administration have committed as you are required to do by sworn oath and the duties of the position you hold. Why you are not levying Murder in the First Degree charges against Obama and those involved in the “assassination meetings”.

      Multiple precedent cases in the USA abide where individuals have been held accountable and prosecuted for not taking the Oath, not keeping the Oath, and decisions that an oath taker made to follow or enforce an unlawful order.

      The civil offense for not keeping the oath of office as required:

      Article VI, Clause 2 of the US Constitution: “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”

      The Constitution of the United States of America IS the Supreme Law of this land, NOT those who serve within the federal government.

      The first law statute of the United States of America, enacted in the first session of the First Congress on 1 June 1789, was Statute 1, Chapter 1: an act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths, which established the oath required by civil and military officials to support the Constitution.

      The wording of the Presidential Oath was established in the Constitution in Article II, Section 1, Clause 8.

      ‘Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”’

      The Framers placed the presidential Oath of Office after the beginning clauses setting forth the organization of the executive department, and before the ending clauses that specify the contours of the President’s assigned power. The President takes the oath after he assumes the office but before he executes it. The location and phrasing of the Oath of Office Clause strongly suggest that it is not empowering, but that it is limiting – the clause limits how the President’s “executive power” is to be exercised.

      The requirement for all Federal and State Civil officers to give their solemn and binding Oath is established in Article VI, Section 1, Clause 4.

      They are bound by their Oath to support the US Constitution, and should they abrogate their Oath by their acts or inaction, are subject to charges of impeachment and censure – political remedy for a political offense; and/or civil and criminal charges.

      “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

      Once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge.

      SOLEMN: “Legally binding, Common legal phrase indicating that an agreement has been consciously made, and certain actions are now either required or prohibited. The other requirement for an agreement or contract to be considered legally binding is consideration – both parties must knowingly understand what they are agreeing to”.

      BOUND: “Being under legal or moral obligation; to constitute the boundary or limit of; to set a limit to; confine”

      LEGALLY BINDING: Common legal phrase. Lawful action, such as an agreement consciously agreed to by two or more entities, establishing lawful accountability. Both parties must knowingly understand what they are agreeing to is the other requirement to legally establish an agreement or contract.

      CONSIDERATION: “Consideration in a contract is a bargained for exchange of acts or forbearance of an act.”

      REQUIRE, REQUIREMENT, REQUIRED: Mandated under a law or by an authoritative entity. “To claim or ask for by right and authority; That which is required; a thing demanded or obligatory; something demanded or imposed as an obligation.”

      CONTRACT: “An agreement between two or more parties creating obligations that are enforceable or otherwise recognizable at law.”

      The Framers placed the requirement for the “Oaths of Office” in the Constitution, the supreme law of this land. These Oaths are to function as “checks” on the powers of the federal government and protect us from usurpations.
      Each Branch of the federal government has “the check of the Oath” on the other two branches. THE STATES, WHOSE OFFICIALS ALSO TAKE THE OATH OFF OFFICE, HAVE THE SAME CHECK ON ALL THREE BRANCHES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. And “We the People”, the “original fountain of all legitimate authority” (Federalist 22), have the Right to overrule violations of the Constitution by elected and appointed officials.

      Webster’s 1828 Dictionary says for “Constitution”: “…In free states, the constitution is paramount to the statutes or laws enacted by the legislature, limiting and controlling its power; and in the United States, the legislature is created, and its powers designated, by the constitution.”
      If any Branch fails to obey the “supreme Law”, then, in order to preserve the Rule of Law, the other Branches, or failing that, the States or the people, must overrule them”.

      Title 18 United States Code Section 926 (Federal law Gun Control Act of 1968) makes it a federal felony for anyone to require a gun registration list of ANY kind IF AT ANY TIME SAID LIST IN ANY WAY CAN or will BE USED AS A GUN CONFISCATION LIST.

      Now I am going to remind you of the California Constitution which you swore to uphold, and then the treason laws.

      California State Constitution
      Art 1 Dec Of Rights, Sec 1: All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and DEFENDING LIFE AND LIBERTY, acquiring, POSSESSING, and PROTECTING PROPERTY, and PURSUING AND OBTAINING SAFETY, happiness, and PRIVACY.

      Art 1 Dec Of Rights, Sec 13: The RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO BE SECURE IN THEIR PERSONS, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable seizures and searches may not be violated; and a warrant may not issue except on probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons and things to be seized.
      Violations of this are:
      · Feinstein’s 2013 Gun Control proposal
      · UN”s Agenda 21
      · NDAA
      · Patriot Act
      · Warrantless Searches, Tracking, Spying, etc
      · Gun Control laws, not including regulating concealed carry, weapons to weak to deter military invasion, or usurpation by government domestic enemies
      · TSA Searches at airports, bus stations, train stations, public and private roadways
      · Etc

      Art 1 Dec Of Rights, Sec 18: Treason against the State consists only in levying war against it, ADHERING TO ITS ENEMIES, or giving them aid and comfort. A person may not be convicted of treason except on the evidence of two witnesses to the same overt act or by confession in open court.

      · UN’s Agenda 21 – supporting and implementing it, covering up for companies and government agencies that support and implement it
      · Support for UN laws, military forces on USA soil, in California
      o Any action, bill, law, etc by any person, group, company, corporation, political group, etc that would change our legitimate government by unconstitutional means.

      Art 1 Dec Of Rights, Sec 26: The provisions of this Constitution are mandatory and prohibitory, unless by express words they are declared to be otherwise.

      Art 3 State Of California, Sec 1: The State of California is an inseparable part of the United States of America, and the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.

      Art 5 Exec, Sec 1: The supreme executive power of this State is vested in the Governor. THE GOVERNOR SHALL SEE THAT THE LAW IS FAITHFULLY EXECUTED.
      · That includes quelling Treason, stopping unconstitutional actions by those in the federal and California government, arresting and prosecuting oath breakers within the California state government and those who represent the state of California in the federal government.
      o That includes investigating, and prosecuting companies, government agencies, and individuals that are supporting treasonous, and foreign schemes like UN’s Agenda 21,
      . Banning or Nullifying NDAA, Patriot Act, Warrant less Searches, Spying, Tracking, etc within the state of California
      . Not allowing gun control as per Second Amendment, US Constitution
      · That includes investigating Election Fraud perpetuated within California, and prosecuting those involved at ANY level
      · That includes investigating any and all agencies, corporations, individuals, and groups supporting and implementing UN’s Agenda 21 for treason against the USA and against the state of California, be they private, state, or federal agencies.
      · That includes going after Oath breakers and those who commit(ed) treason in the Federal Government whose powers are limited, listed, and defined by the US Constitution – our legitimate government.

      § US President’s were NOT given the power to pardon those who commit treason. Obama pardoned Bush of war crimes, murder, and various other criminal and civil offenses he committed, but he cannot pardon treason.

      Art 5 Exec, Sec 7: The Governor is COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF A MILITIA THAT SHALL BE PROVIDED FOR BY STATUTE. The Governor may call it forth to execute the law. (Why is there not a training schedule posted for all able-bodied citizens to train for the militia?)
      · That includes quelling Treason, stopping unconstitutional actions by those in the federal government, removing from office and arresting oath breakers within the California state government and those who represent the state of California in the federal government
      o That includes investigating, and prosecuting any and all agencies, companies, government agencies, corporations, groups, and individuals that are supporting treasonous schemes like Agenda 21, etc within the state of California
      o That includes investigating Election Fraud perpetuated within California, and prosecuting those involved at ANY level

      Art 5 Exec Sec 13: Subject to the powers and duties of the Governor, the Attorney General shall be the chief law officer of the State. IT SHALL BE THE DUTY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO SEE THAT THE LAWS OF THE STATE ARE UNIFORMLY AND ADEQUATELY ENFORCED…

      Art 7 Public Officers And Employees: SEC. 9. Notwithstanding any other provision of this Constitution, NO PERSON OR ORGANIZATION WHICH ADVOCATES THE OVERTHROW OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OR THE STATE BY force or violence or OTHER UNLAWFUL MEANS or WHO ADVOCATES THE SUPPORT OF A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE UNITED STATES in the event of hostilities shall:
      (a) HOLD ANY OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT UNDER THIS STATE, including but not limited to the University of California, or with any county, city or county, city, district, political subdivision, authority, board, bureau, commission or other public agency of this State; or
      (b) Receive any exemption from any tax imposed by this State or any county, city or county, city, district, political subdivision, authority, board, bureau, commission or other public agency of this State.

      The Legislature shall enact such laws as may be necessary to enforce the provisions of this section. Yet these have been ignored:
      · Support of the UN takeover of California and the USA through UN’s Agenda 21 – changing our government by unconstitutional means – treason
      · Patriot Act – changing our government by unconstitutional means – treason
      · NDAA – changing our government by unconstitutional means – treason
      · FCC allowing and supporting a Media cartel; yet the head nor the first four layers beneath are not being investigated
      · Warrant less Searches, Spying, Tracking, etc within the state of California
      · Diane Feinstein’s 2013 Gun Control which changes the US Constitution, specifically Bill of Rights, Amendment 2 through unconstitutional means.
      · Diane Feinstein not keeping her oath of Office to the State of California which once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge. A criminal, civil, and political offense.
      · Diane Feinstein not keeping the legally required Oath of Office to the US Constitution which once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge. A criminal, civil, and political offense.
      · Other Oath Breakers

      Art 9 EDU. Sec 1: A general diffusion of knowledge and intelligence being essential to the preservation of the rights and liberties of the people, the Legislature shall encourage by all suitable means the promotion of intellectual, scientific, moral, and agricultural improvement. [Plus support and defend the US Constitution, First Amendment and the Preamble to the Bill of Rights] Yet:

      · Almost 100% of the mainstream media is owned by seven companies: Disney, NewsCorp, TimeWarner, CBS, Viacom, NBCUniversal, and Sony. They control everything: movies, television, all the major newspapers and news, and even music record labels.
      When one company dominates an industry, it is a monopoly. When a handful of companies cooperatively dominate an industry, it is a “Cartel.” This is what we have with our corporately owned ‘mainstream’ media – an elite group that is cooperatively and covertly controlling everything that comes through our television, radio, newspaper, and theater.
      · Supreme Court, Red Lion v. FCC, 1969: “It is the purpose of the First Amendment to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail, rather than to countenance monopolization of that market, whether it be by the Government itself or a private licensee. It is the right of the public to receive suitable access to social, political, esthetic, moral, and other ideas and experiences which is crucial here. That right may not constitutionally be abridged either by Congress or by the FCC.”

      The amendments of the Constitution are not to be submitted to a vote. This means they must be left alone, the federal government, state governments do not have the lawful power to pass laws concerning these natural rights; EXCEPT Congress can pass any law on any item concerning the places under its jurisdiction (D.C., Federal areas and buildings, military bases, etc).

      Remember, it is YOUR sworn duty to see that the enforcement of laws outside of federal jurisdiction that allow the subjugation of the American people to unlawful laws, bills, executive orders, etc which our government leaders know do NOT and CANNOT apply to citizens within the states not used here against them in California.

      Bill of Rights
      Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

      The six protections against government encroachment are:
      1. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion
      2. Congress shall make no law prohibiting the exercise of religion
      3. Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech
      4. Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of the press
      5. Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people peacefully to assemble
      6. Congress shall make no law abridging the right to petition the government for a redress of grievance.

      Amendment II: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654
      Breaks the militia down in three groups.
      · The organized militia, henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, Territory and District of Columbia,
      · The unorganized militia and
      · The regular army.
      It further states: The militia encompasses every able-bodied male between the ages of 18 and 45. All members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms of any type, and as many as they can afford to buy. (Anyone who can be in the military can be in the Militia, so women are no longer excluded)

      Richard Henry Lee, Senator, 1st Congress: “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”

      Richard Henry Lee, Senator, 1st Congress: “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves … and include all men capable of bearing arms.”

      John Adams, 2nd US President: “You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe”

      Samuel Adams, Philadelphia Independent Gazetteer, August 20, 1789, “Propositions submitted to the Convention of this State”: “And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …”.

      George Mason, Co-author of the Second Amendment during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788: “I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”

      Amendment III: No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
      Amendment IV: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

      The government limitations stated in this amendment are:
      1. The citizens are to be secure in their person, home, papers, and property, from unreasonable searches and seizure.
      a. Basically “We the People” have the privacy to go about their lives without worrying whether the government will invade them. This amendment was to ensure that the government does not trespass on the people nor take anything from the people without following correct legal procedure.

      2. The government is restrained from taking either person or property without first getting a warrant, and only after proving probable cause.
      a. This, however, is only valid if the judge issuing the warrant is honest. There have been cases in which corrupt judges have signed blank warrants, and the details are not filled in until after serving the warrant.

      Amendment V: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

      Amendment VI: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

      Amendment VII: In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

      Amendment VIII: Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

      Amendment IX: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

      The Ninth Amendment states that the citizens of the United States have more rights than just those enumerated (listed) in the Constitution, and the government is forbidden to deny us those rights.
      1. Any “freedom” enjoyed by the people and those upheld by the Supreme Court, such as privacy, travel, presumption of innocence, etc, are all rights not listed but are still unalienable rights.
      2. We have the “right” to be free from federal harassment.
      a. When our country was first started, and for nearly a century thereafter, the Federal government had virtually NO dealings with the average citizen
      i. This shows that it is another unalienable right not listed.

      Amendment X: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

      Madison specified in Federalist 45: “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former (fed gov) will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”

      Art IV Sec 2, the 14th says, “No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States”

      Treason:
      Clause 2 of Article VI of the Constitution: “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”

      The Constitution of the United States of America IS the Supreme Law of this land, NOT those who serve within the federal government.

      Title 18 US code section 2381 – Treason: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
      · Those who implement(ed/ing) and/or assisting/assisted in the cover-up and implementation of UN’s Agenda 21
      · Those who implement(ed/ing) and/or assisting/assisted in the cover-up of Fast and Furious
      · Those who implement(ed/ing) and/or assisting/assisted in the cover-up of Benghazi
      · UN military forces on US soil
      · UN “overseeing” US Elections
      · Corporations, businesses, government bureaucracies, individuals assisting, supporting, implementing UN’s Agenda 21

      18 USC § 2382 – Misprision of treason: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.
      . The Senate – those that were there at the hearing where Panetta and Dempsey declared treason; congress; and Boehner – letter from Obama where he declared treason; Holder, Pelosi, H. Clinton, and the rest of that administration. Don’t forget that both Bush’s, and B. Clinton administrations also committed treason and need arrest and prosecution.

      18 USC § 2383 – Rebellion or insurrection: Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States OR THE LAWS THEREOF, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
      All laws MUST be in “pursuance thereof the US Constitution” or are “null and void”.

      18 USC § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy: If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
      · Fast and Furious – Press Releases about it in EARLY 2009, David Ogden the talking head for Obama;
      · Benghazi, arming terrorists including the terrorists blamed for 9/11.
      · Giving the UN, a foreign entity, ‘authority’ over the USA –
      · Using UN, a foreign entity, laws,
      · UN, a foreign entity, here to ‘monitor’ OUR USA elections,
      · UN, a foreign entity, taxing US citizens,
      · UN , a foreign entity, Military on USA soil
      · Giving the UN ‘authority’ over the USA, over the US Military – Obama, Panetta, Dempsey. UN & NATO with the assistance of this administration, the Bush administration, the Clinton administration, the Bush 1 administration…
      o The UN does NOT have any lawful authority over the USA, nor does anyone serving in any branch of our legitimate government have the lawful power to give them any authority over the USA – Not to decide OUR gun laws, tax us, watch our elections, use our natural resources, put Agenda 21 here in the USA, use our military and any of “our” Generals, etc. Any representatives who assist or allow it are committing treason – Panetta, Dempsey, and Obama & his administration, Holder, plus H. Clinton, J.Napolitano, David Ogden, N. Pelosi, etc – who said they do NOT represent the USA, they represent the UN.
      o Obama said in a letter to Boehner, Panetta and Dempsey in front of the senate – on video.
      o Foreign laws and Shariah laws being used in US courts
      · Implementing UN laws within the USA
      · Implementing taxes of US citizens and those legally allowed to be here to be paid to the UN
      · UN’s Agenda 21
      · Patriot Act
      · NDAA
      . Warrantless Searches, Tracking Spying of any type, etc
      · TSA in our airports, train stations, bus stations, on our roads, at sporting events, etc

      18 USC § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy: Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof… assassination of any officer of any such government; or

      · That would be “change” and using propaganda, lies, misinformation, and a *corporate media cartel.
      o Almost 100% of the mainstream media is owned by seven companies: Disney, NewsCorp, TimeWarner, CBS, Viacom, NBCUniversal, and Sony. They control everything: movies, television, all the major newspapers and news, and even music record labels.
      When one company dominates an industry, it is a monopoly. When a handful of companies cooperatively dominate an industry, it is a “Cartel.” This is what we have with our mainstream media – an elite group that is cooperatively and covertly controlling everything that comes through our television, radio, newspaper, and theater.
      o “It is the purpose of the First Amendment to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail, rather than to countenance monopolization of that market, whether it be by the Government itself or a private licensee. It is the right of the public to receive suitable access to social, political, esthetic, moral, and other ideas and experiences which is crucial here. That right may not constitutionally be abridged either by Congress or by the FCC.” Supreme Court, Red Lion v. FCC, 1969}
      Manipulating mainstream information to distort, misinform, and outright lie or keep from the public information in order to “shape” public opinion to destroy the US Constitution, our legitimate gov is treason. If it was decided to change it, it must be based on legitimate information, not deceit, lies, propaganda, distortions, election fraud, etc being done here as was done in Germany.

      18 USC § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy: Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

      18 USC § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy: Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof…

      · That would be “change” and using propaganda, lies, misinformation, and a *corporate media cartel to limit and distort information.
      o Almost 100% of the mainstream media is owned by seven companies: Disney, NewsCorp, TimeWarner, CBS, Viacom, NBCUniversal, and Sony. They control everything: movies, television, all the major newspapers and news, and even music record labels.
      When one company dominates an industry, it is a monopoly. When a handful of companies cooperatively dominate an industry, it is a “Cartel.” This is what we have with our mainstream media – an elite group that is cooperatively and covertly controlling everything that comes through our television, radio, newspaper, and theater.
      o “It is the purpose of the First Amendment to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail, rather than to countenance monopolization of that market, whether it be by the Government itself or a private licensee. It is the right of the public to receive suitable access to social, political, esthetic, moral, and other ideas and experiences which is crucial here. That right may not constitutionally be abridged either by Congress or by the FCC.” Supreme Court, Red Lion v. FCC, 1969}
      Manipulating public opinion to destroy the US Constitution, our legitimate gov is treason.
      · Giving the UN ‘authority’ over the USA, over the US Military – Obama, Panetta, Dempsey. UN & NATO with the assistance of this administration, the Bush administration, the Clinton administration, the Bush 1 administration…

      o The UN does NOT have any authority over the USA, nor does anyone serving in any branch of our legitimate government have the power to give them any authority over the USA – Not to decide OUR gun laws, tax us, watch our elections, use our natural resources, put Agenda 21 here in the USA, use our military and any of “our” Generals, etc. Any representatives who assist or allow it are committing treason – that would be Panetta, Dempsey, and Obama & his adminstration, Holder, plus H. Clinton, J.Napolitano, David Ogden, N. Pelosi, etc – who said they do NOT represent the USA, they represent the UN.
      o Obama said in a letter to Boehner, Panetta and Dempsey in front of the senate – on video.
      o Foreign laws and Shariah laws being used in US courts
      · Implementing UN laws within the USA
      · Implementing taxes of US citizens and those legally allowed to be here to be paid to the UN
      · UN’s Agenda 21
      · Patriot Act
      · NDAA
      · Warrantless Searches, Tracking Spying of any type, etc
      · TSA in our airports, train stations bus stations, on our roads, at sporting events, etc

      Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654: Breaks the militia down in three groups. The three classes H.R. 11654 provides for are;
      · The organized militia, henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, Territory and District of Columbia,
      · The unorganized militia and
      · The regular army.

      It further states: The militia encompasses every able-bodied *male between the ages of 18 and 45. All members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms of any type, and as many as they can afford to buy.
      (*It encompasses every able-bodied person that can serve in the military)

      U.S. Supreme Court, NORTON v. SHELBY COUNTY, 118 U.S. 425, STATE OF TENNESSEE.
      Filed May 10, 1886
      “…An unconstitutional act is not a law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; it affords no protection; it creates no office; it is, in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.”

      George Washington, Farewell Address: “If in the opinion of the people … but let there be no change by usurpation; for though this in one instance may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.”

      Thomas Jefferson, 3rd President of the United States: “On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.”

      “The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution.”

      “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”

      James Madison, Federalist 43. Inscribed in the Madison Memorial Hall, Library of Congress James Madison Memorial Building: “…the safety and happiness of society are the objects at which all political institutions aim, and to which all such institutions must be sacrificed.”

      James Madison, Federalist Papers 46: “They must be told that the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone, and that it will not depend merely on the comparative ambition or address of the different governments, whether either, or which of them, will be able to enlarge its sphere of jurisdiction at the expense of the other.”

      Richard Henry Lee, Senator, 1st Congress: “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”

      “A militia… are in fact the people themselves … and include all men capable of bearing arms.”

      John Adams, 2nd US President: “You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe”

      Abraham Lincoln: “We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.”

      Samuel Adams: “And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the Press, or the rights of Conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; …”.

      The Supreme Court has cited St. George Tucker – a lawyer, Revolutionary War militia officer, legal scholar, and later a U.S. District Court judge – in the major cases of virtually every Supreme Court era. He wrote of the Second Amendment:

      “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, and this without any qualification as to their condition or degree, as is the case in the British government.”

      “This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty… The right of self-defense is the first law of nature…”

      “The congress of the United States possesses no power to regulate, or interfere with the domestic concerns, or police of any state: it belongs not to them to establish any rules respecting the rights of property; nor will the constitution permit any prohibition of arms to the people;…”

      William Rawle, wrote “A View of the Constitution of the United States of America” which was a constitutional law textbook at West Point and other institutions. Rawle was a respected constitutional authority and an early commentator who actually voted to ratify the Bill of Rights:

      “The prohibition is general. No clause in the constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretence by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both”.

      “neither the states nor the national government has legitimate authority to disarm its citizens”.

      Justice Story, Supreme Court Associate Justice in 1833, “Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States”. Regarding the Second Amendment, he wrote:
      The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.’

      Cockrum v. State: “The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the high powers delegated directly to the citizen, and is excepted out of the general powers of government. A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power.”

      Tench Coxe wrote: “Who are the militia? are they not ourselves… Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American…The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people”.

      “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow-citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.”

      Hamilton: “When will the time arrive that the federal government can raise and maintain an army capable of erecting a despotism over the great body of the people of an immense empire, who are in a situation, through the medium of their State governments, to take measures for their own defense, with all the celerity, regularity, and system of independent nations? The apprehension may be considered as a disease, for which there can be found no cure in the resources of argument and reasoning”.

      Daniel Webster: “Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war in which the folly and wickedness of the government may engage itself? Under what concealment has this power lain hidden… Who will show me any Constitutional injunction which makes it the duty of the American people to surrender everything valuable in life, and even life, itself, whenever the purposes of an ambitious and mischievous government may require it?”

      Patrick Henry: “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”

      Justice Robert H. Jackson, Chief of Counsel for the United States, Nuremberg Trials: “It is not the function of the government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error”.

      Ronald Reagan: “The NRA believes America’s laws were made to be obeyed and that our Constitutional liberties are just as important today as 200 years ago. And by the way, the Constitution does not say Government shall decree the right to keep and bear arms. The Constitution says ‘The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

      Senator Hubert H. Humphrey: “Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms…. The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote in America but which historically has proven to be always possible.”

      Andrew Jackson, Farewell Address: “But you must remember, my fellow citizens, that eternal vigilance by the people is the price of liberty, and that you must pay the price if you wish to secure the blessing. It behooves you, therefore, to be watchful in your States as well as in the Federal Government.”

      Glenn Harlan Reynolds: “The purpose of the right to bear arms is twofold; to allow individuals to protect themselves and their families, and to ensure a body of armed citizenry from which a militia could be drawn, whether that militia’s role was to protect the nation, or to protect the people from a tyrannical government.”

      Malcolm Wallop, former U.S. Sen.: “The ruling class doesn’t care about public safety. Having made it very difficult for States and localities to police themselves, having left ordinary citizens with no choice but to protect themselves as best they can, they now try to take our guns away. In fact they blame us and our guns for crime. This is so wrong that it cannot be an honest mistake.”

      The U.S. Supreme Court, Cohens v. Virginia, 1821: “Although the Federalist Papers were written prior to the drafting of the Bill of Rights (but after the Constitution was sent to the states for ratification), the passages quoted, above, help explain the relationships that were understood between a well-regulated militia, the people, their governments, and the right to keep and bear arms. The Second Amendment did not declare or establish any new rights or novel principles”.

      U.S. v. Emerson, 46 F.Supp.2d 598, N.D.Tex. 1999: “Collective rights theorists argue that addition of the subordinate clause qualifies the rest of the amendment by placing a limitation on the people’s right to bear arms. However, if the amendment truly meant what collective rights advocates propose, then the text would read “[a] well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the States to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” However, that is not what the framers of the amendment drafted. The plain language of the amendment, without attenuate inferences therefrom, shows that the function of the subordinate clause was not to qualify the right, but instead to show why it must be protected. The right exists independent of the existence of the militia. If this right were not protected, the existence of the militia, and consequently the security of the state, would be jeopardized.”

      Nunn vs. State: ‘The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.’ The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to be attained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitally necessary to the security of a free State. Our opinion is that any law, State or Federal, is repugnant to the Constitution, and void, which contravenes this right.

      An armed populace, organized into a well regulated militia, was a good way to defend the country without a large professional army and that it would give the people the ability to defend their liberties if the government ever became tyrannical. Not for self-protection, not for hunting, not even to protect from foreign invaders. Simply that the people, the militia, be able to wrest power from a government, overtly or insidiously, removing power from the people. Every political figure knows that to impose the governments will on the people you must disarm them.”

      Thomas M. Cooley (1824-1898), Chief Justice of the Michigan Supreme Court and author of the leading nineteenth-century works on constitutional law:
      “The right is general. It may be supposed from the phraseology of this provision that the right to keep and bear arms was only guaranteed to the militia; but this would be an interpretation not warranted by the intent. The militia, as has been explained elsewhere, consists of those persons who, under the laws, are liable to the performance of military duty, and are officered and enrolled for service when called upon…. If the right were limited to those enrolled, the purpose of the guarantee might be defeated altogether by the action or the neglect to act of the government it was meant to hold in check. The meaning of the provision undoubtedly is, that the people, from whom the militia must be taken, shall have the right to keep and bear arms, and they need no permission or regulation of law for the purpose. But this enables the government to have a well regulated militia; for to bear arms implies something more than mere keeping; it implies the learning to handle and use them in a way that makes those who keep them ready for their efficient use; in other words, it implies the right to meet for voluntary discipline in arms, observing in so doing the laws of public order”

      Judge Cooley: “ … there is an individual right, meant to buttress the militia, but not limited to its enrolled members – since the government may define who is in the militia, and thus the right would have no value against abusive government if so limited. To argue that the result is that only militia activities are covered is to lapse into the collective right approach. If one takes this definition, the civic right concept in practice would resemble the “hybrid” individual right, recognized in Aymette v. State. Presumably, that a legislature can outlaw weapons that have no militia/military function. It can proscribe brass knuckles and billy clubs because militia functions do not contemplate bludgeoning tyrants, insurrectionaries, or criminals. Conversely, outlawing machine guns, assault rifles, .50 caliber rifles, and the like would involve infringement of the right’s very core because the people are the militia.
      A government could likely restrict concealed carry because concealment has no particular link to political resistance, but it could not restrict open carry or use.”

      One of the traditional purposes of the militia is law enforcement -”to execute the Laws of the Union.” Law enforcement was most likely the most frequent use of the militia…

      The Bill of Rights is the immunities of citizens of the United States, as are many unlisted natural rights of the people as pointed out in the 9th Amendment.

      Article IV Section 4 of the Constitution: “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion . . ..

      Please be aware that this is being sent to every congressperson, senator, California Sheriff’s, and to other state’s sheriff’s, to the Governors of the other states, every media that I can get to post it, and various other groups and agencies that are supporting and defending our nation remaining under its legitimate government. I am also letting other people use this a form as ‘template’ that they can insert their own state constitution and required oath, plus Governors name into.

      Sincerely

      My name, a very concerned citizen

  • kelli

    Anyone in the United States who is a threat to the United States ought to be arrested or detained for the good of the people who live here. I wish people would read and inform themselves instead of listening to people who don’t know what they are talking about. Obama has two daughters and he is going to do everything in his power to make this a great country. Please listen to yourself and look how you guys are behaving. Use your common sense and stop following people wo are uninformed.

    • jim

      Arrested and detained is one thing, but killing an American citizen with out due process is another…read the 4th amendment, and then it will be clear we are a nation of laws…not emotions. If your life is decided by a unnamed person in government? Then who’s law are we adhering to? What feels good or whats right?

    • http://todaysconstitution.wordpress.com usirius

      kelli, “Obama has two daughters and he is going to do everything in his power to make this a great country.”

      Your ignorance is apalling. This was a great country until we allowed treasonous scum (yes, I can prove it) and domestic enemies stay within the federal government, and some withini our state governments.

      You show NO prove of what you say. Let me show you proof that Obama is making it much worse for everyone, admittedly following in Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2′s footsteps.

      Bush 2 had Special Forces in 70 foreign nations – 8 years.
      Obama had Special Forces in OVER 145 foreign nations in 4 years – BEFORE this last election.

      Obama extended and added to the Patriot Act – one in which BEFORE he became prez he admitted was an unlawful act – research it, it is one of the things he ran on – stopping and getting rid of it.

      Guantanomo is still open and torture is still going on. – another thing he ran on in 2008 – closing GITMO and stopping illegal tortures (did you forget that already?)

      Warrantless spying, tracking, etc all extended under Obama.

      NDAA: remember Obama lying to the people straight into the cameras saying he would VETO it because it had parts in it that were directly against the American people – of course he did forget to mention that he and his adminstration were the ones FIGHTING to have that put INTO the NDAA.
      NDAA was judged to not be constitutional in a court of law – null and void. Obama could no longer use those parts against the American people – so he sent his attorneys out to find another judge to do his bidding and overturn that judgement. So you can see that his “signing statement” – which has no legality anyway – was just propaganda to make people like you go along with his cons where he says one thing and does another lying to your faces.

      Lets go to to few criminal and civil offenses as I have 142 pages of Obama’s lies, and I will not list ALL of his criminal actions – like clinton and the Bush’s there are many!.

      You seem pretty ignorant of what our legitimate government stands for. Bet you did not know that not keeping the LAWFULLY required LEGALLY binding Oath of office is both a criminal and civil offense. Not only that, but because it is a LAWFUL requirement of the office, any who does not keep it no longer meets the LAWFUL requirements of the position of office they are occupying – be it a janitor, clerk, congress, judge, or president.

      Federal law regulating oath of office by government officials is divided into four parts along with an executive order that further defines the law for purposes of enforcement.

      5 U.S.C. 3331, provides the text of the actual oath of office members of Congress are required to take before assuming office.

      5 U.S.C. 3333 requires members of Congress sign an affidavit that they have taken the oath of office required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and have not or will not violate that oath of office during their tenure of office as defined by the third part of the law,

      5 U.S.C. 7311 which explicitly makes it a federal criminal offense for anyone employed in the United States Government to “advocate the overthrow of our constitutional form of government”.

      18 U.S.C. 1918 provides penalties for violation of oath of office described in 5 U.S.C. 7311 which include: (1) removal from office and; (2) confinement or a fine.

      The definition of “advocate” is further specified in Executive Order 10450 which for the purposes of enforcement supplements 5 U.S.C. 7311.

      Executive Order 10450 provision specifies it is a violation of 5 U.S.C. 7311 for any person taking the oath of office to advocate “the alteration … of the form of the government of the United States by unconstitutional means.”

      Our form of government is defined by the Constitution of the United States; so according to Executive Order 10450 plus 5 U.S. 7311 any act taken by government officials who have taken the oath of office prescribed by 5 U.S.C. 3331 which alters the form of government other then by amendment, is a criminal violation of the 5 U.S.C. 7311.

      Criminal violation.

      Article VI, Clause 2 of the US Constitution: “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made IN PURSUANCE THEREOF; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”

      This term, “shall be made IN PURSUANCE THEREOF” means that ALL laws, treaties, amdnements, bills, etc must follow the US Constitution or is NOT legal. Some progressives and ingorant people think that the “supremacy clause” means the federal government is “supreme”, and they leave out that small extremely imporatnt section when they “quote” it. It does not.
      All duties that were assigned to the federal government – laws, etc made concerning those duties and ONLY those assigned duties – and are “made IN PURSUANCE THEREOF” the US Constitution are supreme. The rest are Null and Void: Patriot Act, NDAA, all this warrantless spying, etc are all against the laws here and being done by traitors, or ignorant people – of course “just doing my job” and “just following orders will not stop the criminal charges against them anymore then it did those who participated in Nazi Germany.

      The Constitution of the United States of America IS the Supreme Law of this land, NOT those who serve within the federal government.

      The first law statute of the United States of America, enacted in the first session of the First Congress on 1 June 1789, was Statute 1, Chapter 1: an act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths, which established the oath required by civil and military officials to support the Constitution.

      The wording of the Presidential Oath was established in the Constitution in Article II, Section 1, Clause 8.

      ‘Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”’

      The Framers placed the presidential Oath of Office after the beginning clauses setting forth the organization of the executive department, and before the ending clauses that specify the contours of the President’s assigned power. The President takes the oath after he assumes the office but before he executes it. The location and phrasing of the Oath of Office Clause strongly suggest that it is not empowering, but that it is limiting – the clause limits how the President’s “executive power” is to be exercised.

      The requirement for all Federal and State Civil officers to give their solemn and binding Oath is established in Article VI, Section 1, Clause 4.

      They are bound by their Oath to support the US Constitution, and should they abrogate their Oath by their acts or inaction, are subject to charges of impeachment and censure – political remedy for a political offense; civil and criminal charges.

      “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

      Once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge.

      Solemn: “Legally binding, Common legal phrase indicating that an agreement has been consciously made, and certain actions are now either required or prohibited. The other requirement for an agreement or contract to be considered legally binding is consideration – both parties must knowingly understand what they are agreeing to”
      .
      Bound: “Being under legal or moral obligation; to constitute the boundary or limit of; to set a limit to; confine”

      Legally Binding: Common legal phrase. Lawful action, such as an agreement consciously agreed to by two or more entities, establishing lawful accountability. An illegal action, such as forcing, tricking, or coercing a person into an agreement, is not legally binding. Both parties knowingly understand what they are agreeing to is the other requirement to legally establish an agreement or contract.

      Consideration: “Consideration in a contract is a bargained for exchange of acts or forbearance of an act.”

      Require, Requirement, Required: Mandated under a law or by an authoritative entity. “To claim or ask for by right and authority; That which is required; a thing demanded or obligatory; something demanded or imposed as an obligation.”

      Contract: “An agreement between two or more parties creating obligations that are enforceable or otherwise recognizable at law.”

      The Framers placed the requirement for “Oaths of Office” in the Constitution. These Oaths are to function as “checks” on the powers of the federal government and protect us from usurpations.
      Each Branch of the federal government has “the check of the Oath” on the other two branches. The States, whose officials also take the Oath of Office, have the same check on all three branches of the federal government. And “We the People”, the “original fountain of all legitimate authority” (Federalist 22), have the Right to overrule violations of the Constitution by elected and appointed officials.

      Webster’s 1828 Dictionary says for “Constitution”: “…In free states, the constitution is paramount to the statutes or laws enacted by the legislature, limiting and controlling its power; and in the United States, the legislature is created, and its powers designated, by the constitution.”
      If any Branch fails to obey the “supreme Law”, then, in order to preserve the Rule of Law, the other Branches, or failing that, the States or the people, must overrule them”.

      Now lets go to treason.
      Title 18 US code section 2381 – Treason: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
      · Those who implement(ed/ing) and/or assisting/assisted in the cover-up and implementation of UN’s Agenda 21
      · Those who implement(ed/ing) and/or assisting/assisted in the cover-up of Fast and Furious
      · Those who implement(ed/ing) and/or assisting/assisted in the cover-up of Benghazi
      · UN military forces on US soil
      · UN “overseeing” US Elections
      · Corporations, businesses, government bureaucracies, individuals assisting, supporting, implementing UN’s Agenda 21

      18 USC § 2382 – Misprision of treason: Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States and having knowledge of the commission of any treason against them, conceals and does not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President or to some judge of the United States, or to the governor or to some judge or justice of a particular State, is guilty of misprision of treason and shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than seven years, or both.
      · That would be the Senate, congress, and Boehner, Holder, Pelosi, H. Clinton, and the rest of that administration. Don’t forget that both Bush’s, and Clinton and their administrations also committed these crimes and need arrest and prosecution.

      18 USC § 2383 – Rebellion or insurrection: Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

      18 USC § 2384 – Seditious conspiracy: If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.
      · Fast and Furious – Press Releases about it in EARLY 2009, David Ogden the talking head for Obama;
      · Benghazi,
      · Giving the UN ‘authority’ over the USA –
      · Using UN laws,
      · UN here to ‘monitor’ OUR USA elections,
      · UN taxing USA,
      · UN Military on USA soil
      · Giving the UN ‘authority’ over the USA, over the US Military – Obama, Panetta, Dempsey. UN & NATO with the assistance of this administration, the Bush administration, the Clinton administration, the Bush 1 administration…
      o The UN does NOT have any authority over the USA, nor does anyone serving in any branch of our legitimate government have the power to give them any authority over the USA – Not to decide OUR gun laws, tax us, watch our elections, use our natural resources, put Agenda 21 here in the USA, use our military and any of “our” Generals, etc. Any representatives who assist or allow it are committing treason – Panetta, Dempsey, and Obama & his administration, Holder, plus H. Clinton, J.Napolitano, David Ogden, N. Pelosi, etc – who said they do NOT represent the USA, they represent the UN.
      o Obama said in a letter to Boehner, Panetta and Dempsey in front of the senate – on video.
      o Foreign laws and Shariah laws being used in US courts
      · Implementing UN laws within the USA
      · Implementing taxes of US citizens and those legally allowed to be here to be paid to the UN
      · UN’s Agenda 21
      · Patriot Act
      · NDAA
      · Warrantless Searches, Tracking Spying of any type, etc
      · TSA in our airports, train stations bus stations, on our roads, at sporting events, etc

      Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof… assassination of any officer of any such government; or
      · That would be “change” and using propaganda, lies, misinformation, and a *corporate media cartel.
      o Almost 100% of the mainstream media is owned by seven companies: Disney, NewsCorp, TimeWarner, CBS, Viacom, NBCUniversal, and Sony. They control everything: movies, television, all the major newspapers and news, and even music record labels.
      When one company dominates an industry, it is a monopoly. When a handful of companies cooperatively dominate an industry, it is a “Cartel.” This is what we have with our mainstream media – an elite group that is cooperatively and covertly controlling everything that comes through our television, radio, newspaper, and theater.
      o “It is the purpose of the First Amendment to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail, rather than to countenance monopolization of that market, whether it be by the Government itself or a private licensee. It is the right of the public to receive suitable access to social, political, esthetic, moral, and other ideas and experiences which is crucial here. That right may not constitutionally be abridged either by Congress or by the FCC.” Supreme Court, Red Lion v. FCC, 1969}
      Manipulating public opinion to destroy the US Constitution, our legitimate gov is treason.

      Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
      Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof…
      · That would be “change” and using propaganda, lies, misinformation, and a *corporate media cartel.
      o Almost 100% of the mainstream media is owned by seven companies: Disney, NewsCorp, TimeWarner, CBS, Viacom, NBCUniversal, and Sony. They control everything: movies, television, all the major newspapers and news, and even music record labels.
      When one company dominates an industry, it is a monopoly. When a handful of companies cooperatively dominate an industry, it is a “Cartel.” This is what we have with our mainstream media – an elite group that is cooperatively and covertly controlling everything that comes through our television, radio, newspaper, and theater.
      o “It is the purpose of the First Amendment to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail, rather than to countenance monopolization of that market, whether it be by the Government itself or a private licensee. It is the right of the public to receive suitable access to social, political, esthetic, moral, and other ideas and experiences which is crucial here. That right may not constitutionally be abridged either by Congress or by the FCC.” Supreme Court, Red Lion v. FCC, 1969}
      Manipulating public opinion to destroy the US Constitution, our legitimate gov is treason.
      · Giving the UN ‘authority’ over the USA, over the US Military – Obama, Panetta, Dempsey. UN & NATO with the assistance of this administration, the Bush administration, the Clinton administration, the Bush 1 administration…
      o The UN does NOT have any authority over the USA, nor does anyone serving in any branch of our legitimate government have the power to give them any authority over the USA – Not to decide OUR gun laws, tax us, watch our elections, use our natural resources, put Agenda 21 here in the USA, use our military and any of “our” Generals, etc. Any representatives who assist or allow it are committing treason – that would be Panetta, Dempsey, and Obama & his adminstration, Holder, plus H. Clinton, J.Napolitano, David Ogden, N. Pelosi, etc – who said they do NOT represent the USA, they represent the UN.
      o Obama said in a letter to Boehner, Panetta and Dempsey in front of the senate – on video.
      o Foreign laws and Shariah laws being used in US courts
      · Implementing UN laws within the USA
      · Implementing taxes of US citizens and those legally allowed to be here to be paid to the UN
      · UN’s Agenda 21
      · Patriot Act
      · NDAA
      · Warrantless Searches, Tracking Spying of any type, etc
      · TSA in our airports, train stations bus stations, on our roads, at sporting events, etc

      Understand now? Obama, much like both Bush;’s and both Clinton’s, plus this adminstration and the previous adminstrations have been committing:Treason, Murder, Mass Murder, are War Criminals, Oath Breakers, Domestic Enemies of the USA, and various other criminal and civil offenses against the USA and her people.

      Basically they are just scum who are going to be prosecuted for their crimes. Bush 1 might not if he dies before we can get him prosecuted, Bush 2 will get out being prosecuted for all of the crimes listed here EXCEPT TREASON – but ONLY because Obama pardoned him for Murder, Mass Murder, War Crimes, Oath Breaking, and various other criminal and civil offenses he committed, including treason – the one crime that a president cannot pardon.

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