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President Wants LGBT Children To Know He Has Their Back

October 4, 2011 by  

President Wants LGBT Children To Know He Has Their Back

At a Human Rights Campaign (HRC) address on Saturday, President Barack Obama lauded “productive, bilateral talks” he had last week with pop singer Lady Gaga and pledged his support for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Americans.

The President said that two years ago, he made a pledge to people in America who are living alternative lifestyles.

“I said I would never counsel patience; that it wasn’t right to tell you to be patient any more than it was right for others to tell African Americans to be patient in the fight for equal rights a half century ago,” said Obama. “But what I also said, that while it might take time –- more time than anyone would like -– we are going to make progress; we are going to succeed; we are going to build a more perfect union.”

The President told HRC that his Administration, with the organization’s help, has passed many reforms for homosexual and transgendered Americans. The President said that among the best things his Administration has done are lifting the ban on foreign travelers to the country who have HIV/AIDS and the end of the military “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy.

The President also vowed to the group that he would do more to promote public school programs that would seek to educate children about being gay or transgendered.

“We’ve got to make sure they know that there are adults they can talk to; that they are never alone; that there is a whole world waiting for them filled with possibility. That’s why we held a summit at the White House on bullying. That’s why we’re going to continue to focus on this issue,” said Obama. “This isn’t just “kids being kids.” It’s wrong. It’s destructive. It’s never acceptable. And I want all those kids to know that the President and the First Lady is standing right by them every inch of the way.”

The President concluded his address to HRC urging all present to help him move forward with his American Jobs Act and “Pass this bill.” He said he dreams of a “bigger” America.

“I am still hopeful, because of a deeper shift that we’re seeing; a transformation not only written into our laws, but woven into the fabric of our society,” said Obama.

 

 

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • http://naver sook young

    Why would this president support something as unnatural and immoral as homosexuals? Thank you.

    Sook Young
    Wife of the Samurai

    • Altaica

      Sook,

      Your religious opinions are not the opinions of the whole country. Your views on homosexuality are derived from your religion and should not be used in the making of laws that affect every religion of this country. As a Biologist I know from science that Homosexuality is indeed natural as science shows the behavior in a multitude of animal species, as we are part of the animal kingdom as classified by science. We sure aren’t elements or plants.

      As for morality, well that is dependent on upbringing and in many cases the religion someone grows up with. Many religions do not believe homosexuality as being immoral, and as we are often referred to as the melting pot we are made up of many religions in this country. If you want to believe it is immoral as your religion dictates that is fine, but you are not allowed to take away another person’s rights to feel that it is not nor their rights to engage in this behavior so long as it is not directly against you. That is how the country works.

      • Brad

        Altacia said “As a Biologist I know from science that Homosexuality is indeed natural as science shows the behavior in a multitude of animal species, as we are part of the animal kingdom as classified by science. We sure aren’t elements or plants”.

        No, that’s why in the animal kingdom males mate with females to propogate, ensure the next generation is strong and healthy. Animals do tend to stay with same sex members but when it’s mating season those same males seek out and you know the answer to that one. Being a person who believes in science and biology, I have never seen or heard of males or females of specific species trying to mate with the same gender. It’s true, there are certain types of amphibians who can change sexes and reproduce, ensuring there’s a new generation toads.

        When it comes down to nature, we need to take a few lessons from the animals, atleast males and females know who they are mating with, the natural law, survival of the fittest. Those who aren’t strong enough, sick or have something wrong will perrish that’s the natural way, I believe you need to go back to school my friend.

        • Altaica

          “Brad
          No, that’s why in the animal kingdom males mate with females to propogate, ensure the next generation is strong and healthy. Animals do tend to stay with same sex members but when it’s mating season those same males seek out and you know the answer to that one. Being a person who believes in science and biology, I have never seen or heard of males or females of specific species trying to mate with the same gender. It’s true, there are certain types of amphibians who can change sexes and reproduce, ensuring there’s a new generation toads.

          When it comes down to nature, we need to take a few lessons from the animals, atleast males and females know who they are mating with, the natural law, survival of the fittest. Those who aren’t strong enough, sick or have something wrong will perrish that’s the natural way, I believe you need to go back to school my friend.”

          First off not all members of species do the propagating. In many cases only the dominant pair are permitted to have young. I’m not the one that needs to go back to school, you my friend, need to learn more about the diversity of nature. Do you even have anything higher than a High school science education. I have studied Biology extensively, I have a college degree and I regularly read up on what I can. And when I refer to scientific reading and understanding I mean secular writings that are objective and free from any religions views. Simply facts from observable data, true hard science.

          Here is a good start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

          There is an entire species of lizard that is 100% all females and they reproduce. While in most cases homosexuality does not produce young it does exist in nature and is therefore natural. IF every individual of a species did indeed propagate we would end up with overpopulation and animals starving and also the weaker members passing on their genetics.

          Homosexuality fills many roles in nature. In some species it is a form of bonding, some it’s a display of dominance, in others it’s simply because only the dominant male and female are permitted to mate but they still have drives.

          • Lisa

            So, now your push for homosexuality is based on female lizards that reproduce. This is ludicrous and you claim to be educated! Do these lizards have sex with each other to reproduce? Or is it already built in them to do it on their own? Biology tells us what things DO not what things ARE! Any sane farmer knows he cannot put 2 bulls in a paddock and expect calves!!!
            The same with humans. You cannot put two females together and expect babies nor can you put two males together and expect babies. The scientific fact remains that humans can ONLY reproduce with the opposite sex, one male and one female. So what does this reduce children to with homosexual couples? Rent a womb or purchase sperm or pay some women in poor countries to do it for you. Children have basic fundamental rights to receive fathering AND mothering. They compliment each other. I wonder if all of you promoting this abomination know who your parents are? Would not knowing who your parents are bother you? It would certainly bother me not to have known my wonderful parents, in fact, I would feel ripped off. I also wonder if todays homosexuals were also raised by homosexuals and never knew who their real parents were. I would really like to know.
            And lastly, you attacked Sook Young for burdening you with a religious belief when she did not even mention religion in the comment. You seem opinionated rather than educated as you claim with all your degrees. Your education does not make you a better, more rational, smarter person than anyone on the planet but it can make you arrogant! I know dozens of ‘secular’ people and couples who claim no religion whatsoever, who are disgusted at the homosexual lifestyle.
            As for my children, I send them to school to learn to read and write! Not to learn about all sorts of alternative lifestyles that oppose natural law. Besides, it is a preference to be homosexual, not a normal standard.
            Homosexual couples CANNOT reproduce on their own as the lizards do.

          • Lisa

            And another thing. I am sick and tired of hearing the ‘over-population’ rubbish. Do your research biologist! A lot of European countries last year did not have their birthrate at replacement level. It was way below. This was the case in Australia and The Nederlands as well. All births are followed by natural deaths.
            Abortion has already made sure that birth levels are low. The Americans murdered over 1.4 million babies last year. The Australians murdered about 100,000. And when euthanasia comes around, we will be able to kill the young and the old and anyone in between who wants to go or whose government wants them gone.
            You so called educated Biologists and Scientist have educated yourselves into stupidity. All us other folk have something that you seem to have lost, simple logic and simple language.
            All the other stuff being promoted against all natural law and logic is nothing more than verbally engineered horse manure.

          • Thor

            altaica, perhaps in addition to science you should have given some attention to ‘language’ and ‘ethics’. “Anthropomorphism,” the act of attributing human characteristics to non-humans is a ‘non-scientific’ or ‘unscientific’ endeavor. Biologists should then give some attention to the word ‘homosexual,’ ‘homo-’ or human being of primary concern, the word means ‘human sexual.’ That means the word, if used to describe other animals, is ascribing human characteristics to animals–which it seems the ethical community has yet to decide can be done prudently or ethically. To attribute human characteristics to animals, the issue of whether or not they are sentient beings would have to be decided and that, too, is up in the air. With this in mind, it seems a bit childish–even of scientists–to use animal behavior as an example to human conduct.

          • http://naver samurai

            Well said Thor. I 100% agree. Libs always try to use science as an answer, but never use it correctly. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Ted Crawford

        OK, Biologist(?), let’s put all the male Homosexuals on one island and all the Lesbians on another, giving them everything they need to sustain life, except any contact on any level with the opposite gender. In about 100 years or so we would have two deserted islands. Now how can anyone, Biologist or not, call that sustainable? Natures primary struggle is clearly always Sustainability!

        • eddie47d

          Since Sook believes Homosexuality is wrong according to our Christian religion then does that mean she wholeheartedly accepts Sharia Law because it is a part of the Muslim religion? There are allot of things people don’t like in life and everyone has a right not to indulge in things they deem inappropriate. Because certain religions stress certain moral ideals doesn’t mean they have to be accepted by someone else who believes differently. Sook doesn’t have to accept homosexuality in her personal life and that is her free will. She also doesn’t have the right to trample on someone elses beliefs or lifestyle unless they personally effect her.

          • Patty

            She has a right to protest the passing of laws that she has to accept the lifestyle. Just as you cannot pass laws to make people act morally according to you, you cannot pass laws to make people accept what they see as immoral. Our gov’t. should get out of the moral business, they are the worst offenders.

          • Brad

            Eddie,

            The problem is when they the minority (LGBT) forcefully make the majority believe in their beliefs and lifestyles now that’s wrong, wouldn’t you agree.

          • eddie47d

            You can accept someones lifestyle without endorsing it for yourself. I believe that marijuana should be legalized and taxed but I would never buy the product.I don’t like cigarette smokers but I don’t want the product banned. I don’t want a black man beaten up because he is caught talking to a white women yet that was accepted in some Conservative circles years ago. Homosexuals/Trans genders who flaunt their lifestyle don’t impress me one bit but I have never been impressed with Heterosexuals who exhibits sexual tendencies in public either.

          • patty

            Eddie47 – Buy yourself a history book. Beating up black men for talking to white women was the southern democratic party. Don’t make me think you only buy into liberal talking points. You are making yourself look like a moron.

          • eddie47d

            When are you going to understand the word Conservative whether Republican or Democrat? Yes the Conservative Democrats in the South played dirty but now it is the Conservative Republicans who are denying certain rights to certain people. So maybe you should stop the name calling and learn a little history yourself.

          • patty

            Because Eddie47 I AM A CONSERVATIVE and every catagory and label you apply to me is wrong. I don’t care what one’s sexual orientation is, and to think you should be treated differently because of what it is, is wrong. Same for race, same for vegitarians, same for females, same for males. You belong to whatever group you want to put yourself into. Me personally, I belong to the human race. You seem to want to box and label every act (hate crime,), and person (white, black, asian, homsexual). In my world, none of those labels exist.

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Eddie… God’s law always trumps man’s law…. And if even if you shrug this off, which you do have that right to do, there is a day coming when EVERYONE’s knee will bend and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. And if you don’t believe that, again… your choice. I would rather live my life knowing there is a God and an eternity with Him, than not. Good will triumph over evil.

          • Ted Crawford

            Just where did sook inject any religious belief in her statement? She called it “Unatural and immoral”, where is the religion there? I’m a Diest and I call it the same way, morals do not require any religious support!

          • JeffH

            Ah yes…what’s wrong about this question?

            “Since Sook believes Homosexuality is wrong according to our Christian religion then does that mean she wholeheartedly accepts Sharia Law because it is a part of the Muslim religion?”

            If one accepts a christian form of religion why on earth would they also accept a non-christian religion that contains Islamic Sharia law?

            eddie, one question for you…do you wholeheartedly accept the Muslim religion and Sharia Law even though you are a christian?

            Just askin’?

          • Karolyn

            patty – “Because Eddie47 I AM A CONSERVATIVE and every catagory and label you apply to me is wrong. I don’t care what one’s sexual orientation is, ”

            You are an exception to what most conservatives portray themselves as.

          • patty

            Karolyn – You are wrong. Most conservatives think that way. It is the MSM that has you believing otherwise.

          • eddie47d

            Patty mentioned the Democrat Party in relation to history and I had to inform her that they were the Conservatives of that day.Since she is a Conservative she may have been a Democratic way back when.

          • eddie47d

            Jeff is trying to be slick again and totally dishonest. I never said I support Sharia Law and I don’t. Will Jeff now answer my questions to him (when asked)or will he continue to revert to stonewalling or to making false accusations on lying?

          • eddie47d

            Ted Crawford ; Sook has stated she is a Christian on numerous occassions and I’m sorry you didn’t know that.

          • newspooner

            Tolerance is fine, but insistence for coerced approval is bigotry.

          • JeffH

            Well now eddie…who’s the one saying stupid things here…I asked a very simple question and you couldn’t even get it right…not one dishonest or slick word in my question to you.

            Did I even remotley infer that you supported “Sharia Law”? No! I simply asked you for an answer to the same question you posed to Sook Young? What is dishonest and slick about it? I guess getting caught by your own device could be considered slick, but that was your choice…it has been said that “what is good for the goose is good for the gander”…

            So eddie, I’ll pose the question one more time, as a christian, and you have said on several occassions you are a christian, “do you wholeheartedly accept the Muslim religion and Sharia Law even though you are a christian?”

            FYI – Unlike yourself,I back up my accusations and I don’t lie…I’ll leave the lying to you, the proven liar…you know very well that I can back that up with proof as I have done on multiple occassions and am prepared to do again and again.

          • eddie47d

            I already answered your question you little evil man of no integrity and questionable content. BZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz!!! You cover up your lies with more lies. BAAaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

          • JeffH

            eddie again say WAH, WAH, WAH! Point out my lies eddie…I point out yours so isn’t turnabout fairplay? If your going to a gunfight you shouldn’t bring a doily…Polly! baaarrraaaccckkkk!

          • http://naver sook young

            No, no, no Eddie. I have to deal with them everyday the our hospital’s Center for Behavioral Medicine. You are wrong on that matter and you are also wrong on Sharia Law. I don’t believe in a set of laws, based on a false faith, treats women like slaves, and others like they are lower then they are. I’ll never accept it or the homosexual behavior. Both are wrong in the eyes of God. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

        • Altaica

          “Ted Crawford says:
          October 4, 2011 at 8:35 am
          OK, Biologist(?), let’s put all the male Homosexuals on one island and all the Lesbians on another, giving them everything they need to sustain life, except any contact on any level with the opposite gender. In about 100 years or so we would have two deserted islands. Now how can anyone, Biologist or not, call that sustainable? Natures primary struggle is clearly always Sustainability!”

          You are putting words in my mouth. I never stated anything about sustainable, I only said it was natural which means it happens in the natural world and is performed by many species of animals. You should make sure you read and understand what is being said before you jump to conclusions. Your statement of sustainability has nothing to do with the facts that various species of animals do perform homosexual acts and it is indeed present in the natural world and is therefore natural. Nature’s primary goal is balance. In balance you must have both procreation and population control. If there were not controls in place in nature to control species from growing out of control then disasters such as plagues and starvation happen. For many animals, population control means only the most dominant members are permitted to mate, yet the less dominant still have the drive, so they use other avenues. So one way you can look at it is homosexuality is a natural means of population control so that a species does not grow out of control.

          So lets see if I can make you understand some things. First off there is a species of lizard, one of the whiptail where every member is female and they do reproduce and when one female mounts the other, the one on the bottom has stronger, more viable eggs. Second, in species like wolves where only the top pair are allowed to mate because there would be too many for a viable population the other members engage in homoesexual activities to bond and deal with thir urges without adding unneccesary burdens on their packs. It is also a form of domination to determine pecking order. Third the Bonobo Chimp performs all kinds of sexual activity and is the my peaceful species of ape and is known as the free love chimp. You should have a look at the very large list of animals I posted above and learn something about the diversity of nature.

      • Patty

        Altaica-Then please explain to me why, when I ask close or not so close friends with alternative lifestyles admit to being molested. Not 1, not 2, dozens that were molested at a pre-pubescent age group. There have been sightings of male on male in the wild with bucks in rut. Thier testosterone level is so high that it makes them crazy during the rutting season. Are you therefore saying that these people are crazy? I think not. Confused from something that happened to them at a very young age, is more probable. Natural is the urge to pro-create in nature. From plants that shed thier seeds before winter to people who want children to pass on the lineage. Natural is not some thought some liberal professor put into your head. That too is a learned thing and your brain has been molested by them. Returning to school would not help you, it would just keep your theory alive in your own mind.

        • eddie47d

          Yes children are molested and that is disgusting. The majority of children/teens who are assaulted are by heterosexuals not homosexuals. That margin is so wide that we should be far more concerned about what heterosexuals are doing with their sexual urges instead of looking for excuses to harass homosexuals.

          • Brad

            The problem is those radical homosexuals are pushing their lifestyle choices onto us, it may be a choice they’ve made for themselves, it doesn’t mean I have to like it.

          • Patty

            I never said homosexuals should be harassed. Explain to me the difference between homosexuals being harassed and straight people being harassed. What I did say is that something happened to them at a very young age for them to adopt being gay. It doesn’t have to be that they were molested. Some have very over bearing, man hating mothers that raised them (which is mostly defined as a democratic female). It is what is done to the psychie at a very young age.

          • eddie47d

            Patty; If you exclude anyone from being equal in the eyes of our US laws then you are indeed harassing them. You are telling them they are different and that they do not have the same rights as you have. As you accused Altaica of keeping her theories in her own mind you go and do the same thing.

          • patty

            Eddie47 – WRONG again. Child molestors do not have a sexual orientation. “The distinction between a victim’s gender and a perpetrator’s sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don’t really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.”
            http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html

          • patty

            Eddie47 – Equal is one thing, special is another. As soon as you put someone in a special catagory you are giving them special treatment. There is nothing special about them. As you yourself has said, it has been going on since the beginning of time. I have a saying on my wall, “Yes, you are special, just like everyone else.”

          • eddie47d

            As you say you know history then you certainly know homosexuals have been harassed,beaten and killed throughout history. For the most part they want to be left alone but the angry people throughout history just won’t allow that to happen. Everyone looks for a scapegoat for the decline of their status or even morals and homosexuals always ALWAYS fits into that category for them.

          • patty

            I will bet you that there have been more females, blacks, animals (pick your label) beaten, harrassed and murdered more than the group that has a different than majority sexual orientation. Where is thier special treatment?

          • eddie47d

            You have a fetish for animals Patty or you wouldn’t be bring them up so much on this topic.

          • LadyGreenEyes

            Actually, if you look at the numbers, homosexual molesters tend to have far more victims each than do heterosexual molesters. Also, some PC types try and skew the data, pretending that men who molest boys are somehow “not homosexual”. Plus, as someone stated above, I have also spoken to MANY who were practicing homosexuality, or who thought about it, and there was sexual abuse. With some of the women, they were abused by men, and then recruited by some gay woman. This isn’t a natural behavior, nor a genetic one, but a mental illness, and/or brought on by various factors in the person’s environment. An honest look at the studies proves this.

          • Patty

            Eddie47 – I do have a passion for animals. I foster dogs who have been abused, neglected, abandoned. Animals, especially dogs will love you unconditionally, unlike humans who will smile at you while stabbing you in the back.

        • Altaica

          “Patty says:
          October 4, 2011 at 8:42 am
          Altaica-Then please explain to me why, when I ask close or not so close friends with alternative lifestyles admit to being molested. Not 1, not 2, dozens that were molested at a pre-pubescent age group. There have been sightings of male on male in the wild with bucks in rut. Thier testosterone level is so high that it makes them crazy during the rutting season. Are you therefore saying that these people are crazy? I think not. Confused from something that happened to them at a very young age, is more probable. Natural is the urge to pro-create in nature. From plants that shed thier seeds before winter to people who want children to pass on the lineage. Natural is not some thought some liberal professor put into your head. That too is a learned thing and your brain has been molested by them. Returning to school would not help you, it would just keep your theory alive in your own mind.”

          My Jesuit college that provided my education was not liberal, sorry to burst your bubble. Two, not every one who is homosexual was molested as a child. Those that were are sad victims of predators and I’m sorry to hear when those things have happened. I have many friends in the LGBT community and only one of them was ever molested as a child, and this person is transgender, not homoesexual. All the others came to their sexual preferences on their own. I come to my conclusions by reading objective peer reviewed scientific papers and sources and by thinking for myself. I can see clearly that homosexually is present in many animals in the wild and domestic. Many plants reproduce asexual as well. There are many reasons for homosexuality in nature, as I explained in responses up above. I have seen two male cats groom and mount each other. It is simply amazing that people always have to throw that liberal label onto anyone who defends homosexual rights, or a religion other than christianities rights, but when one defends almost any other right they are conservative. I don’t fit your labels. I’m middle of the road independant. I don’t fit in a neat little category, nor do I want to. I prefer to read and learn and think freely.

          http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html
          http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=410&Itemid=336

          Now this is what I found. I am interested in ready any studies you have, but they must be secular, I don’t want any religions propaganda getting in the way. The information must also come from a source that is reliable and deals with these issues as part of their professions, so criminal justice, psychology or scientific professionals. I have limted time and I want to read only objective studies that are free from stereotypes and propaganda.

          • Patty

            I think where we differ is I believe we have human rights that we all belong to and you can’t label them, segregate them into little compartmental groups. I don’t believe in homosexual, black, hispanic, name it rights. I believe in human rights and for people to profess special rights to any group is considering them something other than human.

          • Patty

            “Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the man”
            This is the tenet of the Jesuits, and it is quite true. The first, most impressionable years, are the years before seven. After that, a person begins to question. If you can inculcate beliefs before that point, you have them for life. So, indoctrinate them young which is why they want to push the GLTB agenda in grade school.

      • Jibbs

        Once again we have a perfect example of public education. Do you not think that there are more important issue’s that need to be addressed?
        But on the other hand, some people will do anything for votes to ensure they keep their power grip, even if they are illegal.

      • ValDM

        Altaica,
        You claim that homosexuality takes place in nature. Yes, it does….but it’s a manifestation of aggression & superiority to the one it is being used against. You know, kind of like “picking” on the weak, making them subordinate & submissive.

        • patty

          Very true. Just as rape is an act of violence, not sex.

        • eddie47d

          ValDM; Okay then: Since Homosexuals are looked at as weak because they didn’t choose the heterosexual lifestyle. Then why do those same heterosexuals try and keep them in submission and want to hold power over them as unworthy humans. You definitely show signs of wanting Homosexuals to be subordinate to you and treated as second class citizens.

          • patty

            Eddie-That is ridiculous. She is stating a behavioral fact. You are scewing it into some liberal trollup.

          • ValDM

            Special ED,
            I’m more than a little tired of you taking my words & spinning them into something else that you can object to. You are guilty of misinterpreting the thing I say & then your replies to me are ALWAYS the replies of a SNOTTY TEENAGER. Go pick on someone else CHILD.

          • eddie47d

            I called it as I saw/read it.

          • ValDM

            Special ED,
            If you called it as you saw/read it, then you need to go back & take some remedial reading classes, because you put your typical spin on something when you want to pick a fight with someone who just disagrees with you on general principles.

          • eddie47d

            Hey your the one who did the original spinning.

        • Altaica

          Not in all cases. In some yes, it is a dominance issue, but in some it is a bonding issue. The Bonobo chimps are considered one of the least violent and peaceful animals, yet it is one of the most sexually promiscuous. It depends on the animal and the role that homosexuality plays. In many species it is also a way for those not allowed to reproduce because they are not the alpha, or head of the group. In this way it is a stress relief function as well as a population control function.

          • Patty

            So Altacia-Why would you reference those fun loving little chimps that gave us aids? Looks like there is more than one way for them to control thier population, spread a disease.
            http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-08/965332216.Vi.r.html

          • http://naver sook young

            Sorry, but animals and humans are very much different. We have the ability to think and know right from wrong, moral and immoral, ethical and unethical, but animals lack that ability. You can debate trying to compare apples and oranges. You don’t have to be a psych nurse or scientist to figure this one out. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

      • WO21

        Without laws and religion, you have chaos.

        • Bogart

          Amen! Before there was religions there was God. Then Adam and Eve not Adam and Adam or Eve and Eve.

        • http://naver samurai

          Well said! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Bogart

        The Word was God…The Ten Commandment. You shall not commit adultery.

      • http://naver sook young

        Why is it that you, hicusdicus, and others claim to be biologists and talk about animal gay tendencies? I think you all just follow the same liberal sites and propaganda. Why do you push for the gays, when we all know their behaviour is unnatural and immoral? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • http://naver samurai

        Why don’t you comment on how they have disgraced our flag with their color scheme? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • DanB

      When you rebuild a nation into part of an empire, you must change the people. To change us from conservatives into nice little communists, you must change our morals. The easy target is to go after alternative lifestyles. While many will disagree with those like me who believe many of these things to be sins and abominations in the sight of God, the problem comes in getting government involved. It is one thing to call someone who murders a criminal. Whether it was a hate crime or not, murder is still a crime that many of us can agree upon. Those who justify their murder as somehow enforcing God’s will are sadly out of line. We cannot let men see fit to take this upon themselves. It is this sort of religious fanaticism that allowed kings to direct their people into religious wars one against another. On the other hand, when people seek to force hate crime legislation what they are doing is not so much seeking their equality but declaring themselves superior. In the end though, the only winner is the government. For when government dictates the beliefs of the people then government can create a following that will do what they want and can be controlled. This is why government supports the fringe groups. We all know that murder is wrong, no matter if the victim was a sinner. So they get us with one truth to get us to deny another truth that should not be enforced “by the sword” (or by government force). See murder is clear cut example of right and wrong while alternate lifestyles are best left to religious debate, not government. However, we have started the cycle of getting government involved in religion and that is the real danger here. Who likes to be told we are sinning? None of us. Even those of us who have acknowledged our sins (and we are all sinners before God), it is rarely a pleasant experience to discover and accept our sins. Those of us who turn to God and His peace can find a joy that is exquisite. Yet, many of us often had some pain and misery first.

      We don’t call the men and women who believes they are doing right living these alternate lifestyles hypocrits. We would call the preacher who teaches that these lifestyles are sins while secretly living such a lifestyle themselves, that person we might call a hypocrit. The first group are living their proclaimed beliefs while the second individual preaches one lifestyle and lives another. Why do you think the Catholic church gets such scrutiny for priests who participate in sexual abuse? Sure, the sexual abuse is a crime, but also illustrates a violation of their own professed beliefs.

      There is a local “rag” that has a certain hostility to my own particular faith. You could pick it out because the stories they published were predictable. If a priest of another faith committed a crime, they never mentioned the faith of the offending priest. It was absolutely predictable. On the other hand, if the offending individual was a leader in my faith, our faith was almost always mentioned at least once in the article without fail. On the surface, you could identify that they were telling the truth in all the articles but because they selected what they included of those truths, it does not take a genius to realize that they were only trying to portray one religion as flawed instead of a more broad approach. I am okay with a “rag” having that approach. I disagree with them, and I acknowledge their bias. So I chose not to subscribe or read their newspaper. No one forces me to read their newspaper or think their way.

      But get government involved…. This is where I object to all the hate crimes. Murder is murder. It does not need to defined according to whether the victim had certain beliefs. The only definition murder needs is to define between self-defense, defense of property and self, perhaps even allowing for the difference between negligence and wanton murder. But to define hate crimes, you are now interjecting government into religion. How can you tell? Well it isn’t a hate crime to kill a Christian. It is just murder. But to kill a homosexual, then it is a hate crime. See, this is a one way street. That might help you identify that we are interjecting government into religion. So all that separation of church and state that people claim when creating all these laws are just a smoke screen to make it seem that are they not doing just what they are doing.

      • Altaica

        The government has it’s hands in a lot of things that belongs in religious communities. I do agree it needs to stop. The problem is somewhere groups, cliques were created, and each one has a special interest. If we stopped labeling each other as x, y, and z, and instead just took each person as an individual and treated everyone the same regardless of race, color, religion or sexual orientation then maybe things would move in the right direction. I believe religion belongs in it’s communities, not in our laws. Laws should be made based on the protection of the whole and with no religious agenda involved. Unfortunately, that’s not case.

      • Bogart

        Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

    • Angel Wannabe

      “Hear Hear”, Sook Young!! :)

    • Ellen

      Why would the president think this is something that needs to be taught in our public schools? We take prayer out of school and want to put in the beauty of homosexuality? To answer your question about why Obama would support the homosexual/bisexual movement, all you need to do is read his books. He experimented with homosexuality. Most likely, he is a gay man and his marriage to Michelle is a sham. Homosexuality and mental disorders run in families, as both are brain chemical issues. And, we already know Obama has issues.

      • Bob Petersen

        I see it as a matter of science v. religion. Sex and sexual orientation are based on scientific fact, whereas prayer and other myths and superstitions are not. The science needs to be kept in school (or, as in Texas and elsewhere, reinstated), not kept out. Religion of all types needs to be kept out of schools and all public aspects of our society. Also, the late addition of the phrase “Under God” in our Pledge of Allegiance needs to be removed. Pleading to our great country doesn’t need the addition of allegiance to any mythology.

        • always right

          Die, you satanic fågg0t. I’d sincerely suggest that you move to Iran. They’d appreciate your “logic” there. Back before God was taken out of the schools we had a decent society. Look at it now, full of selfish, pushy, control freaks like you who demand that others give up their values to live like you think that we should; a manner wholly inconsistent with the extant Judeo-Christian ethos around which this nation was built. You’re so bass-ackwards here that you’re worthy only of scorn and abuse.

          • Altaica

            Well according to US History God was added in to the pledge in the 1920′s http://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm.

            I do seem to recall that our country’s history being full of crime, gangsters and all kinds of behaviors just as bad as anything today in the roaring twenties. Indulgence, excess, etc. Not just a thing of today, and that’s when Under god was added to the pledge at least. rather interesting.

          • Altaica

            Contrary to your belief we were founded as a nation with freedom of religion not solely one religion. Historically speaking many of our founding fathers were Deist or Unionist. Thomas Paine was an atheist. This country was founded on many beliefs not just one. Even my minister father knows this country was not founded solely on Christianity.

          • http://naver sook young

            Sorry Altaica, but we were founded a Christian nation. Many of our founders were deists? This is a lie and you should be ashamed for telling it. How can this be when 54 were protestant, 2 were Catholic, and 29 held degrees in seminary? Thomas Paine was an atheist, but I can’t find his signature on any of our founding documents. Are you sure he was a founder? He even converted to Christianity while living in Europe. It was in Paris on January 16, 1797

            http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=81

            Sorry, but you are wrong about him and thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

        • Angel Wannabe

          Bob, You are soooooo blatantly obvious a paid shill its pathetic, what a Bunch of shyte!!!_Checks in the mail Sport! :P

        • Altaica

          Religion belongs in religious studies courses or in their their respective communities. And if religions are represented in our schools every religion that an American belongs to must be equally and full represented in any public school or else it is a clear violation of the clause, “The government shall not endorse or prohibit any religion.” By teaching a religion in a public, government funded school they are endorsing a religion and prohibiting others by default. In order to not be in gross violation either all religions must be fully represented or all religions must be removed from public education. The amendment is very clear.

          • Patty

            So, muslims should not be allowed to pray in public schools?

          • eddie47d

            Actually anyone should be allowed to pray in school and I believe it should be silently to themselves and before a class begins or when it ends. That would also include on their own time in the cafeteria or maybe at a school game. Muslims shouldn’t be given special time to leave class but should work in their prayers on their own time .If that is what you are getting at.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Altaica__Your AGENDA’S FAIRLY CLEAR TOO!

          • Lisa

            Maybe we should give sex-education back to parents. Look at the children of today. They are taught to worship their genitals. Teenagers are rampant with all sorts of STI’s and happy to spread them around. We even have adverts on TV for STI meds like it is somehow normal to contract one. Endless pornography on tap. The society has become a moral wasteland that is becoming unfit to live in.
            There is something to be said about chastity and morals. Those who choose this path live healthy disease free lives.

          • http://naver sook young

            I agree with you Lisa ans Angel. Altaica is an atheist, I don’t care what she says. Someone who puts so much trust in science and believes there is no God are usually atheists. She just has not grown up yet. Eddie, I actually agree with you on this one. Anyone should be allowed to pray in school, just make it voluntary and not told you have to do something. But we both know that some parents will be “offended” at this and try to get the ACLU involved. Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

        • LadyGreenEyes

          Bob, there is absolutely NO actual scientific evidence that homosexual behavior is anything but an aberration. None. There is no “gay gene”, and this has been KNOWN for a long time now. It’s a myth. Gay persecution? Usually a lie. Matthew Shepherd, you say? Killed for drug money, not because he was gay. He flashed his cash in front of meth addicts, and was killed for that reason ONLY.

          • Ellen

            Lady Green, It is known that homosexuality is a brain chemical issue. That’s why schizophrenia is called the ‘bearded lady’ disease. When their medicine gets messed up, many become homosexual. It is a surprise to me that the media keeps that hidden. Maybe most of the people in our media are simply ignorant. Where would the gay/lesbian group be if it were publicized that they are gay because of of a brain chemical issue? It’s nothing to be ashamed of, but it is also nothing to be proud of.

        • http://naver sook young

          Are you sure about that? Remember, there is no seperation we are one nation under God. Thank you.

          Sook Young
          Wife of the Samurai

      • LadyGreenEyes

        There are people that have testified that he IS gay, that he had relations with them. Rumors that he was involved int he murder of some former partner(S?) from his old “church”. He even called his “wife” Michael at one point – look up the video. Anyone know where those two kids were born? Anyone seen baby pics of them? Pics from his wedding? No doubt in my mind why he would support such a perversion in the schools. This jerk needs to understand, children are NOT concerned with sex, and thus there are no “LGBT” children.

    • always right

      Because he was getting butt-banged by Frank Marshall Davis as a beach boy in Hawaii. Because he knows they’re an anatema to Christianity and America’s family values and by being the zealous, squealing, footsoldiers they are, they’re helping islam/him break the back of the American culture, like Hitler’s brown shirts broke the back of the German culture before WWII. The difference is that Hitler was smart enough to kill his zealots when their usefulness had run out. Because sodomy is a game the whole family plays, whether or not the young ones want to, in islamic/his “culture” so they are (anti)spiritually aligned with islam’s/his satanic tenets.

      • Altaica

        Whoa! From what I have read about Islam they are anti-homosexuality just like the other Abrahamic religions of Christianity and Judeism.

        • LadyGreenEyes

          That’s what t hey CLAIM, but it isn’t true. When husband was deployed to the Middle East, one day a young boy fled to their post, screaming for help because he had escaped from Muslim men that were sodomizing him on a regular basis. This is NOT an isolated case, either. The public face isn’t the true one.

  • Doc Sarvis

    THANK GOD we now have a President who is willing to stand up for the many good people of our country who have been cast into the shadows by a few narrow minded people.

    • Brad

      Doc,

      So what you’re saying, you would let our president dictate to us, the majority, what we think is morally wrong, doesn’t matter if you are left or right in the center. Homosexuality is wrong, that’s my opinion, it goes against nature.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Actually, the majority of Americans don’t have a problem accepting homosexuals.

        • Brad

          Personnaly I don’t have a problem with a gay person; I do have a problem with them when they push their beliefs and lifestyle on me. Gallup does agree with you but only 53% of Americans accept homosexuals.

          • Doc Sarvis

            The acceptance is rapidly rising with younger generations. About time.

          • http://naver sook young

            Then this shows how immoral our younger generations are getting Doc. It’s about time? I wonder if the Germans felt that way when Hitler took power? Thank you.

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

        • Brad
        • Bob Petersen

          Good reply, Doc. You will no doubt get a lot of negative feedback, but keep up this proper attitude, lots of us wil support you and your position.

          • http://naver samurai

            Top or bottom? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. I didn’t mean to make you the butt of a joke. Really. No butts about it.

      • eddie47d

        Presidents dictate to us all the time. Partly because it is their job in decision making. I find almost all wars totally inexcusable and extremely disgusting and unacceptable yet we still have them all the time. One difference is that you are not forced to become a homosexual and I doubt if you ever will be. On the other hand we are forced to accept the numerous wars we are dragged into.

    • always right

      Sorry to break your pushy “heart” dog, but they’re “in the shadows” (Living a life of darkness brought about by serving their satanic, perverse lusts) by their own choices. They can choose to not be homos and get right with God, America’s family values, e.g. “the rest of us”. They should also just —shut—the—hell—-up— and nobody would know or care what they do.

      • Altaica

        Hmm, I thought those of your religion believe God is the only one who can judge? You’re doing an awful lot of judging there. You must be a sad person to have so much hate in your heart.

        • http://naver samurai

          Stating ones opinion is not hate, but you have the gaul to tell someone about hate. You also have hate in your posts by always trying to get people off of the subject. Classic liberal strategy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • LadyGreenEyes

      God has nothing to do with anything supported by this president. Nor are the gays that attack any and all that don’t condone their behavior all “good people”. Typical liberal BS position; any group that is exploited for votes is supposed to be “above reproach”, while the opposition is demonized. Sorry, sane people don’t buy that BS.

  • Angel Wannabe

    We’ve got enough division in this country, let alone Bam Bam dividing us MORE!__Why is someones sexual activity(which supposed to be private) allowed to legislate laws IN THIS COUNTRY!???
    This administration, and the Lesbian and Gay community try and normalize that of which, is ANYTHING but NORMAL!_IT’S NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

    These “New Age” bastards tear down the Church, tear down traditional family values and shred morality AND promote class warfare, and call it PROGRESS, practically forcing acceptance to those of us against this kind of behavior!_I’d like to shove that kind of progress, up their giggy!!!

    Washington why don’t you do yourselves a favor AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT’ stay outta of peoples bedrooms, and RUN THE F-IN COUNTRY, LIKE YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO!!!

    • Doc Sarvis

      Sounds like you would have had the Federal government stay out of civil rights issues all together.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Doc, contrary to popular belief, we ALREADY HAVE RIGHTS FROM GOD, THE GUV IS suppose TO PROTECT them. Not Legistate, what’s acceptable behavior and what’s not!__It’s a money and vote scam and more division!_nuff said

        • Doc Sarvis

          You wrote;”…THE GUV IS suppose TO PROTECT them. Not Legistate, what’s acceptable behavior and what’s not!” So it IS true that you would have kept the government out of civil rights issues. Astonishing!

          • patty

            The gov’t. has a taffy pull on civil rights constantly. Depends on where the majority of votes are, depends on which way they pull.

          • http://naver samurai

            Good job doc, so you then agree that Obama bin Laden had no business telling the military to accept gays and let them be open about it. OMG! I think some light got into that little lib mind of yours. Will miracles ever cease? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Ted Crawford

        Doc
        I would have the Federal Government stay out of anything not clearly enumerated within Artical 1, Section 8 of the Constitution! Everything else falls clearly within the parameters of the 10th. Amendment!

    • eddie47d

      Angel says government should stay out of people bedrooms yet she wants to be the morality police against homosexuals in the bedroom. The Conservative lawmakers enacted sodomy laws and adultery laws in all states decades ago and some are still on the books. So who placed government in peoples bedrooms?

      • Angel Wannabe

        eddie__ Conservative lawmakers didn’t do anthing that wasn’t already done, God said “any man that layeth with another man, as he layeth with a woman”!

        _Regardless of whether or not you side with the rights of homos or not, the fact is, that when homo and bi-sexual are given rights, their rights & Beliefs ARE BESTOWED ON THOSE OF US who don’t think this behavior is right. We are forced to accept it as law and abide it.__Hence the Progressive tactic of believing that “Wrong” is now “Right” is being inacted. You’ve simply fallen for it.

        • eddie47d

          Homosexuals are fighting for the right to own a home together and share benefits and property rights and you turn it into an issue about fornication. You must not watch much TV or movies because heterosexuals are always banging each other in the elevators,back offices,on the couch,some grassy field or God knows where.You never know what kind of surprise you are going to get and it is probably 99% heterosexuals doing the bopping. While you are obsessed with homosexuals the heterosexuals are having a field day influencing your children and grandchildren.

          • patty

            Eddie47- Are you a useful idiot? Espousing such crap. I have a lesbian on the corner of my block who owned a home with her lover until she left (she is still in the house). I have a homsexual couple at the other end of the block. When his lover was rushed to the ER he was given the same treatment as a spouse. The health insurance that I provide to my employees are neutral gender based as significant other. So, what you just implied is totally ludicrus. They are equal. But they are not special and do not need special treatment. It seems to me, YOU are the one that wants to keep them in a special box so you know who they are.

          • eddie47d

            We can all bring up exceptions like you have just done. Most States do not have laws that protect homosexual couples especially in property rights or in medical directives. So try leaving out the name calling…again.

          • patty

            I don’t consider that an exception. I look at it as a microcosim of what is actually going on. And I also live in a very conservative suburb. So, it is not an exception. What you site are the exceptions, not the rule. There are idiots and bullies in every society. They are not the rule, they are the exception.

          • patty

            All I am saying is that we don’t need special laws. If someone beats me up, that isn’t as bad as if they beat up a homosexual? What kind of logic is that?

          • always right

            Good ol’ EddieIQ47. You can depend on him for self-defeating arguments. He wrote: “Homosexuals are fighting for the right to own a home together and share benefits and property rights”

            Eddie dear. they’ve had that since even before they came out of the closet, except the “bennies” part. And tell me, why should “we the people” pour money into bennies for somebody not smart enough to stay away from AIDS/HIV/Hep B-D/Syphillis/gonorrhea/chlamydia/Herpes carriers? They think that sex with diseased people is GOOD and expect us to pay for their medical care.

            (and) “and you turn it into an issue about fornication”.

            Eddie, we’re not the ones putting TV shows on like “The ‘L’ Word” (gone), “Queer like folks” (hopefully gone) and other such garbage out there for public consumption.

            (and) “You must not watch much TV or movies because heterosexuals are always banging each other in the elevators,back offices,on the couch,some grassy field or God knows where.” Yes He does know. And the problem is not really a problem. Men nad women are designed to do that. When it is M/M W/W it is a problem.

            (and) “You never know what kind of surprise you are going to get and it is probably 99% heterosexuals doing the bopping”.

            Eddie, thanks for aacknowledging that heteros do 99% of the “bopping”. The correct number though sits right at 98% normal people (heteros) and 2% deluded, delusional satanists (homosexuals). Butt when many homos admit to have 1,000 and more partners in their lifetime they’re clearly (queerly?) trying to play catch-up.

            (and) “While you are obsessed with homosexuals the heterosexuals are having a field day influencing your children and grandchildren”

            We have no choice but to be “Obsessed”. They’re in our face and lives all the time trying to legislate away our rights to satisfy their lust for power as well as to get legal access to groom children for homo sex. It is good that heterosexuals are influencing our children. That way they’ll learn to stay away from sick people, like the diseased vectors who call themselves “gay” and have one goal with kids: recruit, recruit, recruit!

          • eddie47d

            You missed the point as usual, always wrong. Nice effort though.

          • Patty

            Eddie47 – You are really on thin ice. How did my mother and her sister buy a property together and share property rights after my father died? Don’t tell me, they didn’t declare that they were lesbians, so they allowed them to do it? For gods sake get real. Or maybe it is because they were down south and it is a well known fact that there is incest. Get real. Abandon your talking points, they are leading you to no where.

        • Altaica

          You can’t use the Bible as a basis for secular law. Not all of us believe in your religion and have those tenets and therefore should not be forced to follow your religious mandate. If the government were to make a mandate based on that it would be violating the bill of rights, freedom of religion whereas the government shall not endorse or prohibit a religion. This means it cannot make laws endorsing your religion’s mandates, nor make laws that prohibit another’s. You may certainly follow your beliefs and adhere to them, but you cannot have the government force them on those not of your faith.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Altaica _ You may not wish to believe in God, that’s your choice, but don’t change the facts, in the effort of justifying your beliefs!__

          • http://naver samurai

            You are WRONG! This country was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs. Biblical law taken directly from the Old and New Testiments. Our laws based on the 10 Commandments, if you don’t know that one you know nothing about our founding. And a deep rich belief in nature and nature’s God. Put a sock in it and really read about our history, not some revise secular textbook that is nothing but a pack of lies. Remember, even Washington said “SO HELP ME GOD” when he swore in and kissed the Bible. You are way off base here. I think you need to get back to your animals. You are the 3rd or 4th person that has come to this site and claimed to be biologists. I wonder if there are 3-4 people or are they one. You all give the same BS statements and arguements. Who knows? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • patty

        Eddie- That is such a lie. Democrats enacted the sodomy laws along with Jim Crow laws, which by the way, Georgia republicans removed the Jim Crow law after getting a majority for the 1st time in 100 years. Democrats had 100 years to repeal it and did nothing. Explain that one to me. http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/04/28/why-does-it-take-evil-racist-republicans-repeal-jim-crow-laws/

        • eddie47d

          I should have stuck with the term Conservative in who enacted those sodomy laws since Democrats can be Conservative(at least when the laws came to being). In Colorado it is the Republicans who won’t strike the issue from the books. They voted on that a few months ago.

          • patty

            Eddie47-Exactly what vote was that in Colorado?

          • eddie47d

            They were trying to clear up old laws which no longer applied and some went back more than 100 years. They decided to keep the adultery laws even though they have not been enforced in 50 years or more. I suppose someday when they want to nail someone it will become convenient for the police.

          • patty

            Eddie47-The democrats had a majority for nearly 10 years before that. while the Democrats captured both chambers of the state legislature. Most recently, in 2006, Democrat Bill Ritter won the governorship by a 16-point margin while the Democrats expanded their majorities in both chambers of the state legislature and Democrat Ed Perlmutter captured another U.S. House seat. In 2010, however, Republicans made big gains in the state. They won the statewide races of Attorney General, Secretary of State and Treasurer. Republicans also defeated two incumbent Democratic House members to hold a 4-3 majority in the state’s House delegation. Furthermore, Republicans took control of the Colorado House of Representatives. This occurred even as Democrat John Hickenlooper won the governorship, albeit over weak and divided opposition, and Democratic Senator Michael Bennet was re-elected. Also as a result of the 2010 gubernatorial election the Constitution Party gained major party status as it passed the 10% popular vote threshhold, putting it in an equal legal position with the Demorcratic and Republican parties in terms of rights under state election law. So, why do you only point it out that the republicans can’t do it when the dems had a majority before that. That is pretty selective of you.

          • eddie47d

            Sometimes Legislators need a super majority to pass or overturn a law and that is a hard thing to achieve. So being in the majority doesn’t always get the job done.

          • Patty

            You have an excuse for everything when you are proven wrong with the facts. That comes from being constantly caught in lies Eddie. I have raised more than 1 kid, and you are no different, only older by age not maturity. Like I tell the kids, whatever you think about doing, I have already been there and done that, so don’t try to lie your way out, it won’t work. And it doesn’t work here either Eddie. You are making excuses for why the dems didn’t get laws passed and turning around and blaming repubs for not getting the same thing done. Utterly ridiculous.

          • http://naver samurai

            That’s because ed is a lib and they don’t believe in facts. They hate facts, because they can never prove them wrong. As far as his maturity levels go, I guess you can say below sea level. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. Patty, good job and stick to your guns, fellow patriot!

        • Patty

          Eddie47 – With that logic on liberal and conservative, the fact that the republicans in Georgia over turned the Jim Crow laws must mean that republicans are now the liberals and you will be voting that way????

      • Altaica

        There are still places in this country that have blue laws that say felatio and other sexual activities are illegal. The government needs to get out of our bedrooms is right. That’s everyone’s bedroom, no matter the sexual orientation.

        • Patty

          Agreed. It shouldn’t matter what you do sexually so long as you do it with a consenting adult human being. Leave the mentally handicapped, children and animals alone.

        • Patty

          How long has it been since someone has been prosecuted under those laws? They also have laws in MA that say you have to go to jail if you are a male with no beard until you have one in jail, still on the books. Makes it pretty invalid. There are a lot of invalid laws still on the books. Maybe they should spend time cleaning up the old laws before they continue to make more laws to take away our freedoms.

  • http://www.easyinvest.co.za peter

    So it seems that God and the potus are on the same page here. I wonder what God thinks? I was not aware that homosexuality was widely practised in nature – how ignorant of me. May I be the first to apologize to all those out there who are not so narrow minded.

    • Joyce from Loris

      Maybe that is how we got the platypus?

  • John Carey

    Obama’s support for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Americans is nothing more than trying to get votes for re-election. The President said that two years ago, he made a pledge to people in America who are living alternative lifestyles. He could have done this two years ago with a fully aligned Democratic Congress–but waited and just got started when he is in trouble. The oral majority sucks!

    • Angel Wannabe

      John Carey___So True!__He’s using the Gay/Lesbian Community b/c he’s running out of other VOTER OPTIONS!__

    • Patty

      I wonder how the gay/lesbian community feels about being used as pawns in Obama’s re-election game. Guess it depends on what empty promises he feeds them…

      • Ted Crawford

        Good question Patty! They might want to look at a little histoy. Whenever a despot attempts to take over a country they always pander to the fringe movements, take for example the union movement in Germany between ’29 and ’33′, the National Socialist Democratic Party used them to gain power. Once they had achieved that, the unions were outlawed in ’33′. Stalin even had a label for them. He called them “Usefull idiots”!

      • eddie47d

        Homosexuals have been around since the beginning of time and has nothing to do with anyone getting votes as you accuse Obama of doing.That is pandering to right wing nonsense.Accept Americans as Americans and stop trying to divide us up into cute little segments. You know trying to keep homosexuals in the closet,the Chinese Americans in their Chinatown,blacks in the “ghetto”,Italians in Little Italy,Mexicans in the barrios. That gets really old in how much we love to discriminate and keep people in their place.

        • Ted Crawford

          Good try eddie, however at least some of us can remember when he was Candidate Obama, appearently in an attempt to hold on to the independents, he stated that he was against same sex marriages. He is clearly pandering for votes!

        • patty

          Eddie-So has child molestors and doing farm animals…..been around forever….and I see the democrats continue to keep down the minority races by giving them enough to sustain and keep them in thier place (welfare), the new form of enslavement repackaged under a new and improved label. http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/civil-war/1864/april/democrats-vote-slavery.htm
          The abolition party was the republican party.

          • eddie47d

            I don’t think anyone who is “doing animals” has a political affiliation. Disgusting is just that no matter who you are. So what is your disturbed reason for bringing that up? Shock value?? Since you made reference to the Republican Party then can I assume you are trying to lay it on the Democratic Party. Wrong! When it comes to child molestation as I have already commented on that is a vast majority heterosexual problem. Now if you want to take it further for “shock value” then how about all the Christian priests that have been caught molesting children. Most priests seem to have Conservative values with a dash of Liberalism mixed in but that still makes them Conservatives. That was good to hear that Republicans were more in favor of abolition but once again Republicans at that time were far more Liberal and tolerant and the Democrats were far more Conservative and intolerant. Today it is still the Conservatives who are the intolerant ones. No matter how much things change they remain the same!

          • patty

            Eddie47 – I brought up animals because there were some on this forum that were saying there is homosexuality in nature. Not for shock value. It is true, beastiality does happen. I don’t care who you lick, kiss, suck, have sex with, so long as it is a consenting adult human being. Still doesn’t make you special or put you in a special class. If you think it does, then you need to get over yourself, or maybe they are just doing it for shock value. The fact that you bring up priests molesting kids, just adds to the argument that the homosexuals I know were all molested at a very young age.

          • eddie47d

            I haven’t heard whether those kids molested by priests became homosexuals or not. They have been interviewed and have only said it messed up their life. So maybe they can’t get along with their spouses or they don’t trust people like an average person would. So I believe you are making an assumption rather than stating a fact. (Now I didn’t say you are wrong so don’t jump to another conclusion).

        • Angel Wannabe

          eddie47d, “homos have been around since the beginning of time”___So has murder, but it STILL DOESN’T MAKE IT LEGAL OR RIGHT!!!

          • eddie47d

            Murder is never legal or right. Now a women who is beaten by her husband may disagree with that but that is why we have courts.

        • Patty

          Eddie – besides what Ted said, I love going to ethnic neighborhoods. The food is great and authentic. Not like what you get at lets say Lee Ann Chin or Taco Johns in the burbs. Birds of a feather flock together. I think it is essential for them to stay in China town or where ever to preserve thier heritage if they choose to do that. Why do you package it in the way that you do?

  • MadDog

    Our country is “going to hell in a handbasket” and our fearless leader lauds “productive, bilateral talks” he had with Lady GagGag?

    • Ted Crawford

      Well MadDog, at least his talking with someone of similar cognative abilities!

      • Karolyn

        See my post below. Lady Gaga is extremely intelligent – probably more intelligent than many of the people who post here.

    • Joyce from Loris

      I knew it!! Lady Gaga is a man! I knew it!

    • Patty

      No kidding! I wonder how many of those bi people are unemployed and foreclosed on. Let’s not take care of the REAL problems this country faces.

      • Ted Crawford

        Are you kidding Patty? He has no choice but to interfere in this type of issue, he’s way, way, way over his head on the others! There are several possibly good ideas out there, but his ego forces him to continue to follow his allready failed plan!

        • Patty

          Hear, Hear! The definition of insanity is to continue doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome.

    • Jeep

      I just wish I had time in my work schedule set aside to conduct “talks” with Hollywood elites. I mean, so much could be accomplished! We could talk about all sorts of issues. I wonder if that is where he is also getting advice on the economy?

    • http://ourgirlsclub.blogspot.com/ Ginny Bain Allen

      You’ve got to be kidding me, right? There is not a shred of anything ladylike about the person referred to as Gaga, and she has Obama’s ear? This would be laughable if it weren’t so tragic!

      • Karolyn

        Have you ever heard her interviewed? Lady Gaga is an extremely intelligent, well-spoken woman and a substantial talent. She is not the persona she portrays on stage. You wouldn’t catch someone like her making fun of people or calling them names.

        • Patty

          She is manufactured and promoted to sell you something and a copy of Madonna on steroids. Obviously, you have bought the hype hook, line and sinker.

        • http://naver samurai

          If she is Karolyn, then why did she get caught on tape cussing at a fan because he got some free tickets to her/his concert? This don’t sound too intelligent to me. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • David

    That shows how much class the guys Really got,(near ZERO)But he’s like the rest of the dem.That shows how far and how low that guy will go for votes.Since his Greek colums fell over,and his home Planet exploided,he hasn’t many more places to go.

  • Bill Wright

    Good Point Ted,I was going to state the same thing you did.Such behavior is Crime against humans everywhere.Another thing I don’t like ,is “their”use of the word GAY.Their as gay(happy) as Lady GAG gAG IS A “lady” .

    • http://ourgirlsclub.blogspot.com/ Ginny Bain Allen

      Exactly! Gay was once a lovely word meaning lively and vivacious. I refuse to refer to homosexuals as “gay.” Whenever I hear them referred to as such it makes me want to vomit! What of females named Gay and families with the last name Gay? What an insult to them!

      • eddie47d

        My wife’s middle name is Gay and she is not insulted by gay rights. IF gay folks are un-happy maybe it is because they are slandered all the time by jokesters with vile swill.

        • Joyce from Loris

          My mother in law’s maiden name was Gay, and SHE is insulted by that use of the word to describe homosexuals. I remember way back in the day, they were called queer, which simply meant out of the ordinary. What’s wrong with that word? Homosexuals are out of the ordinary, and queer is not a derogative word either.

          • eddie47d

            Depends on how you use the word queer? Kind of like Dago or Spic or a wide variety of words. You may want to call a fat lady gargantuous but it’s probably better that you don’t.

  • Doc Sarvis

    It was awful to see the audience boo an American soldier (who happened to be a homosexual) at the Republican Presidential Debate. Even worse that none of the candidates spoke up for him. Horrible!

    • Ted Crawford

      I agree with you on this one Doc, that being said where is your indignation when one of your Progressives committ similar tactics! You weren’t upset when Maxine Waters told other Americans that they could ‘go to hell’ or when Hoffa advocated “taking the SOBs out” or when the President himself called a significant portion of America “the enemy”! Very selective with your indignation aren’t you?

      • Karolyn

        How do you know Doc wasn’t offended by Waters or Hoffa’s stupid remarks? I was. I call a spade a spade, whether it’s conservative or liberal.

    • Patty

      I don’t think any American soldier should be booed. But for him to think that his little lifestyle choice is at the top of this nations problems is just ridiculous. I don’t think they were booing him because he was gay. I think they were booing him because we have a lot bigger problems in this country we are facing that will affect ALL of us I don’t care what your orientation. Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that you are really a Jane Fonda groupie and were spitting on the soldiers as they returned from Nam? You expect the republicans up on the stage who probably couldn’t hear a lot of what was going on and were focusing on some of the bigger problems we are facing to react to a situation off the cuff that took the POTUS 3 days to react to? What, his speech writer off a couple days? Arm chair quarter backing from a tele-prompter, which is how he has run this country from day 1 that he took office…how long did it take him to decide to send more troops to Afghan, how many months? I don’t care if you are gay or straight, keep it to yourself.

    • robert walker

      The soldier was not booed. Listen to the tape. There were 2 distinct “booes” from the audience after the soldier read the question, which was to ask if the candidate would obfuscate the law re dont ask dont tell. For all you know, those two “booers” may have been planted, but the main point is that the mainstream mean and hateful media continues to spew false statements about this situation. Anybody who goes along with these type of stories and retells them as if true is a complete moron, idiot, and need not be writing on a blog.

      • patty

        Thank you for the clarification on what actually happened.

      • Song

        good point robert. People are so quick to jump onto any story without doing a little research of their own or independent thinking about what is being presented. I learned many years ago while working for a family law attorney the hazards of taking a news story at face value and it still holds true today. Only half of what you read is “true” and the other half is either conjecture, bias, propaganda or all of the above.

        • James in NY

          The boos by the few were still audible. What is troubling is that the nature of the Republican Party is such that none of the candidates commented on the boos. Yet, I am sure if one had, the majority of the audience would have cheered and something positive would have come out of the disrespect shown by a few. Santorum went on to give an answer that had nothing to do with the question when he said there should be no sexual activity in the military. The repeal of DADT has nothing to with sexual activity. He also went on to talk about a social experiments. Rick, getting out of bed and leaving the house is a social experiment. Gay people exist in the world. They always have and always will. Same with gay soldiers. Deal with it.

          • Karolyn

            Amen!

          • patty

            They didn’t comment because they probably thought they were liberal plants that always seem to act out and make thier presence known at republican gatherings. Before you start labeling groups, why don’t you find out exactly who that person was that booed?

          • http://naver samurai

            Let’s see how the military deals with it when they start discharging soldiers for sodomy and other violations of the UCMJ. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • eddie47d

        That wasn’t a clarification Patty it was an assumed opinion by Robert. I bet 75% of commenter’s on this site are quick to judgement on each and every issue and you are majority Conservative. Robert also made the assumption that the boos could have been planted. Is that like the wild cheering when the death penalty was brought up? Yes some of you shouldn’t always “go along with these stories”.

        • patty

          And you just spew the same meaningless liberal talking points. Robert had a valid point, there was only 1 audible boo and your side is known for putting plants in the crowd to stir up contoversy and trouble. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/22/republican-debate-dadt-repeal-rick-santorum_n_977105.html Listen to it yourself.
          Just as I am sure you don’t want to hear or care to hear what my sexual orientation is, the same applies. It is a non-issue and keep it to yourself.

        • ValDM

          Special ED,
          Et tu!!!!!!!!!!

  • Cep

    I Agree Robert,The way things are now days,those that booed,could have indeed ,been planted.Also ,I want to say,that in High School,I knew a girl whose first name was “Gay”.(1950′s),

  • http://n/a John Beach

    “I am still hopeful, because of a deeper shift that we’re seeing; a transformation not only written into our laws, but woven into the fabric of our society,” said Obama.”
    We almost have “anything goes” now. We are still protesting criminal activities, but someday we will be so oblivious to a dividing line between right and wrong, we will bury the dead and not think a thing about it, reason, having been abandoned in favor of the benefits of the natural order. They can not change the fact that “if you play with fire, you will get burned.” If no one warns them, they will work out there own salvation or damnation. It is a misguided, self-serving, pandering politician who, charged with the execution of law enforcement, does not have the wisdom to discern the difference.

  • Helen

    I loved DanB’s post. Thank you.

    Having been the target of GLBT hate yelling for a personal quiet discussion with my kids about what book I was willing to buy, I have to say that they really are pushing themselves and their agenda on us regular people who are not the least bit interested in their sexual orientation or their opinion about mine.

    The president was totally pandering, pure and simple. He’s lost so much of his base that he has to appeal to various groups to try and get reelected.

    I remember the DADT discussion when it was initiated. It was a good compromise for the military during that time. I don’t know how I feel about it being repealed, so I have to defer to military folks to assess whether it will affect unit cohesion or distract soldiers.

    Can someone please tell me why I have to accept someone else’s lifestyle? I don’t inflict my lifestyle on anyone, so why should anyone inflict theirs on me? I don’t expect everyone to agree with me about how I live my life. Why should the government tell me that I have to accept something that I don’t agree with? Whatever happened to diversity? Individuality? Our uniquness? Only when it is convenient are these terms thrown around on this one-way street. Are we “the Collective” that we should be told what to think, what to eat and drink, what to do in our spare time, what car to drive…….

    • Karolyn

      Do you blame them for pushing? How would you feel if because your name was Jones you were denigrated, made fun of, bullied, beaten, hated and generally treated like crap?

      • Angel Wannabe

        Karolyn, That’s “Alinski-ite Tactics” Bullying/forcing views and laws upon people who won’t accept them!_

        I was called plenty of names being poor growing up, ya suck it up and go on!__If these homos believe their lifestyle is right, then let them do the same. The WHOLE FRIGGIN’ WORLD DOESN’T HAVE TOO, AND WILL NOT ACCEPT THEM!_-They’d better get over it!

        • http://naver samurai

          Right on, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        well if it was Jones the C**** S*****, maybe it should be expected.

  • Bob C.

    first off, groups do not have rights, only individuals have rights, this is a fundamental problem in this thinking. how can any “group” have a “human” right?
    trying to force me to accept the “lifestyle” of a group takes away my very real human ‘right’ to think and believe as I chose away.
    you are free to do what you want, but just because you meet others that want to do the same does not give your ideas more merit, nor your group more rights then I have alone.

    to look at it another way, I have no more “right” to force YOU to think/believe you are a mental deviant, then you do to make ME believe you aren’t.

    the idea that the president, our top representative, is going around making promises he can’t fulfill regarding social trends and values, to ‘groups‘, no mater the group, should bother everyone.

    how can people think we are all equal, when we have a government that constantly talks to us in terms of groups, dividing us?

    how about talking to all of us, understanding your job is not to try to manipulate the words we use, or the values we hold, but simply to represent and uphold the constitution.

    our top man, negotiating with a “pop singer”….. that tells me everything I need to know about this anyway.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Good post Bob C…. I agree with you… If the ‘queers’ of the world want to practice their lifestyle, go for it. Just remember that God does not approve of a sinful lifestyle. He loves the sinner, but hates the sin.

    • patty

      Thank you, well put.

  • Karolyn

    People are people. We are all human beings and have a right to be accepted for who and what we are. What difference does it make what someone’s sexual preference is? AS LONG AS THEY’RE NOT HURTING ME, why should I care? The biggest problem in this world is the lack of love for one another. Only love can save this world. Children should be taught to love their fellow human beings even if they are different than the norm.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      That’s right Karolyn; it’s all about you and how you feel. Morality be damned ! Let’s teach children to love serial killers and pedophiles; they’re people to.

      • eddie47d

        You’re getting way off the subject gunner and with crude assumptions.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    no child’s behind left alone.

    • Raggs

      LOL thats sick but judging from how some people think it is acceptable.

    • http://naver samurai

      That’s true! They should be careful. I guess the schools would have to be the butt of some jokes. No butts about it. Like standing in the lunch line and making that sudden stop in hopes of getting some feel good. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • JeffH

    San Francisco Lesbians Guilty of Criminal Child Abuse…

    All who continue to deny the dire warnings concerning the freak show that awaits our culture at the bottom of the slippery slope called “gay rights” need only contemplate the story of 11-year-old Thomas Lobel.

    Thomas is being raised in San Francisco (of course) by two lesbians, Pauline Moreno and Debra Lobel, who claim they were “married” by a rabbi in some sort of ceremony back in 1990. They adopted Thomas when he was two years old.

    Because he has a speech impediment, Thomas learned sign language at an early age. According to his two “mothers,” he told them in sign language — at age three, mind you — that he was a girl. On the strength of that assertion — from a three-year-old! — Moreno and Lobel made a gigantic leap and assumed it must be true. Thomas, they concluded, must be what is euphemistically referred to these days as “transgendered.”

    Four years ago, when Thomas was seven, psychiatrists “diagnosed” him with “gender identity disorder.” By age eight, with ongoing encouragement from his two lesbian parents, he was supposedly “transitioning,”

    This summer, aided and abetted by a medical establishment that no longer has any moral or cultural moorings, these two deviants started the hideous process of “gender reassignment” on poor Thomas, now eleven, in order to suppress the onset of his male puberty and physically turn him into a girl! This “therapy” includes a hormone-suppressant, which is implanted in his upper left arm to prevent him from developing naturally into the boy God intended him to be. It will suppress the growth of facial hair, the natural deepening of his voice and the broadening of his shoulders.

    What they should be facing is a judge and jury. Instead, we have criminal child abuse being validated by our psychiatric community and our legal system. It may not be popular to say so, but this is the stagnant social cesspool that results from embracing deviancy. In the blink of an eye we have gone from unthinkable to the new normal.
    http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2011/10/04/patton-san-francisco-lesbians-guilty-of-criminal-child-abuse/?subscriber=1

    • Altaica

      While I find no issue with people transitioning if they feel they are in the wrong body I don’t think that choice should be made by the parents. Thomas is clearly not an adult and until that point this child should not have any major elective medical treatment aside from counseling. Upon reaching adulthood then that final step can be decided and taken. Gender identity is a real issue, but other than allowing the child the freedom to express themselves they should not perform surgery and hormone treatments until the person is an adult. I feel the same way about those children that are born as both genders. They need to undergo maturity before such a decision should be made and it should be that individuals choice.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Altaica, and if gender issues abound??, then its time to kick some parental azz! Half are single parents with the kids raising themselves, and others don’t give a damn or thery’re married two and three times and then wonder why the kids are so screwed up!___Cut me some slack!!!!!!!

        ___”I can hear the excuses now__I don’t love him/her anymore!__Heres a good one__I’m not getting any satisfaction!!!I wnat more outta life__It’s all about Me, Me Me!!!

        __Meanwhile back at the ranch__while the parents are busy fighting & dividing up the spoils..there’s kids left standing alone, trying to figure out, what “they” did to cause this!!!__The tearing down of family values is the direct cause in all of this!!!_nuff said!

        • JeffH

          Hear Hear!

        • http://naver samurai

          I second that motion! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Patty

        Well, know one thing, it certainly didn’t make Chaz a better dancer! :)

  • Raggs

    For the straight people in school that are thinking of joining the military after graduation will now turn from the idea on the grounds of being ridiculed so in a few years we will have a complete faggot military system. And you people think that oblama is doing the “right” thing… What a joke that he has made out of this country.

  • LadyGreenEyes

    In other words, the president wants to sexualize children, who are not even AWARE of such things, and teach them to be queer. Also, he would rather cater to a group with problems than protect the nation from what is called an epidemic. Anyone here that voted for him, is this what you wanted? Way past time this fraud was removed from office!

    • crystal

      Yes. That’s why STOP SB 48 is going on in California right now. Homosexuals had legislation passed to force homosexuality into our kids classrooms.

      • LadyGreenEyes

        We can only pray that stopping them is successful. Not holding my breath, though – sign if the times. Reason to home school, too!

  • 45caliber

    I saw an article this morning that some 11 year old in California is getting an operation to make him a girl. It seems that he has been raised by a lesbian couple without any male figure around. So he wants to be a girl, like his “mothers”. They think it is great. I think he is mixed up by a lack of male support.

    • Raggs

      Kinda makes you think about a certain group of people that have 10 or more fatherless children by 7 or 8 different males.

    • LadyGreenEyes

      I think those “moms” should be taken out and shot, and the child removed from their lack of care. As for the operation, HELL no. Any doctor performing such should lose his license.

      • Angel Wannabe

        LadyGreenEyes____HEAR, HEAR!__RIGHT ON!!!

      • libertytrain

        probably related to Octomom’s doctor….brainless and greedy.

  • newspooner

    When someone insists that you approve of something that you believe is wrong, that is bigotry, especially if you have already shown tolerance. This is precisely what is happening today with this whole issue.

    • James in NY

      Perhaps if people were more tolerant to begin with there would be no issue with being gay. I love how these wingnuts think that as a gay American, I have to be treated as a 2nd class citizen so that they can have all their rights including their right to hate. And these same wingnuts love to talk about freedom. Give me a break people.

      • http://naver samurai

        Be careful dude as some of the ones you talk about are of your ilk. Need to get your facts straight before you post! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        Which leg pervert ?

  • Jay

    Mom of Murdered Obama Gay Lover Speaks Up
    Posted on July 25, 2010 by Dr. Eowynl

    Donald Young

    In late May, Wash. DC-based investigative journalist Wayne Madsen had a bombshell revelation about Obama’s membership in a Chicago gay club, Man’s Country. Madsen also reported on Obama’s sexual relationships with other men, including named D.C. politicians and Donald Young, the openly-gay choir-director of the church in Chicago of which Obama was a member for some 20 years — Jeremy Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ black liberation theology. Obama’s relationship with Young was confirmed by Larry Sinclair, who claims to have had two sex-cocaine trysts with Obama.

    Larry Bland
    There were two other openly gay men in Wright’s church: Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. In late 2007, as Obama began his ascent to be the Democratic Party’s presidential nominee, in a span of 1½ months, all three men “conveniently” died:

    Bland was murdered execution-style on November 17, 2007;

    Young was murdered execution-style on December 24, 2007;

    Spencer reportedly died of septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV on December 26, 2007. (Death certificates of Bland and Young, HERE.)

    Nate Spencer (r)

    Now, Young’s elderly mother is speaking out about her suspicions that her son was murdered to protect Obama’s reputation and assure his political future as President.

    http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/mom-of-murdered-obama-gay-lover-speaks-up/

  • Jay

    WHITE HOUSE RAMPS UP DAMAGE CONTROL OVER OBAMA CHICAGO GAY HISTORY
    An exclusive Wayne Madsen Report – July 19, 2010

    The story about President Barack Obama’s bi-sexual past will not go away. Now, in an exclusive interview with The Globe, Norma Jean Young, the 76-year old mother of the late Trinity United Church of Christ choir director Donald Young, has spoken out and declared that persons trying to protect Obama murdered her son at the height of the 2007 Democratic presidential primary to protect Obama from embarrassing revelations about his homosexual relationship with her son. Donald Young’s bullet-ridden body was found in his Chicago apartment on December 23, 2007, in what appeared to be an assassination-style slaying.

    Norma Jean Young revealed to The Globe that her son Donald, who was openly gay, was a “close friend” of Obama. Mrs. Young also believes the Chicago Police Department has not placed a high priority on finding the killers of her son. Mrs. Young, who is, herself a former employee of the Chicago Police Department, told The Globe that, “There is more to the story,” adding, “I do believe they are shielding somebody or protecting someone.”

    The Globe’s revelations are consistent with information obtained by WMR during a May investigation conducted in Chicago. On May 24, WMR reported:“President Obama and his chief of staff Rahm Emanuel are lifetime members of the same gay bath house in uptown Chicago, according to informed sources in Chicago’s gay community, as well as veteran political sources in the city.”

    The report added, “WMR spoke to several well-placed sources in Chicago who reported that Jeremiah Wright, the pastor of Obama’s former church of 20 years, Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC) on Chicago’s south side, ran what was essentially a matchmaking service for gay married black professional members of the church, including lawyers and businessmen, particularly those with children.

    The matchmaking club was called the ‘Down Low Club’ but references to it over the phone and email simply referred to the group with the code phrase ‘DLC.’ The ruse, according to our sources, was to make anyone who was eavesdropping on the communications [FBI wiretaps in the Rod Blagojevich case likely contain such references] believe that the references were to the Democratic Leadership Council, also known as the DLC . . .

    Among the members of the gay ‘DLC’ were Obama and TUCC’s choir director, Donald Young, an openly gay man who reportedly had a sexual relationship with Obama. Two other gay members of the church were Larry Bland and Nate Spencer. Young and Bland were brutally murdered, execution style, in late 2007. Bland was murdered on November 17, 2007 and Young on December 24, 2007. The latter was killed by multiple gunshot wounds. Spencer reportedly died on December 26, 2007, official cause of death: ‘septicemia, pneumonia, and HIV.’”

    Continued: http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/mom-of-murdered-obama-gay-lover-speaks-up/

  • Gringo Infidel

    What a pile of shiznit this is.

  • AJ

    “Has their Back” that’s a joke he’s got a chain around their
    wallets!!!

  • Freescot1253

    Obama has his OWN back in everything he does. Personally, homosexuality is a choice of an individual, and it isn’t my choice. It is a lifestyle that is not a choice of me nor my children and discussion of these lifestyles in the school, particularly to elementary age school children is totally inappropriate. It should be the parents covering this issue. Kids already have enough on their plate in this day and time to deal with.
    Last note, I totally disagree with the biologist.

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