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Prepare Your Own Personal Home Grocery Store And Pharmacy

October 11, 2010 by  

Prepare Your Own Personal Home Grocery Store And Pharmacy

 “Food in the basement is better than money in the bank.”

There are many reasons for stockpiling a one-year supply of food. The value of food commodities generally increases at the same rate as inflation. Money in the bank doesn’t do that. Investing in 500 cans of tuna fish in your basement or dehydrated food that will last five to 10 years is a better bet than putting $350 in the bank.

The most important reason to store food is that it comes in very handy in a crisis of any kind. Whether it be a large emergency such as an earthquake, flood, volcano eruption, war, strike or economic crash, or something as personal as being laid off work, moving or helping other family members that are down and out or when cash is short, it is comforting to know that you can use your home grocery store to help buffer lean money times. If you had to live on what you had in your basement for an extended period of time, you would wish you had a well-rounded supply of food.

In general, most households do not have more than a one-week supply of food. Let’s face it, as a nation, we rely almost totally on the supermarket and fast food restaurants. An average family of four spends $750 or more per month on food. As the children grow up, the price increases. That is double the amount spent 10 years ago. In the past five years inflation on food has risen more than anything else has. Your best investment right now is FOOD!

If you ask any supermarket chain manager to tell you how long it would take to empty the shelves in any store in the event of a crises, the answer would be approximately three days. They just don’t keep that much in their warehouses. And if there were a trucking problem it would be less. People would storm the grocery stores and buy anything they could get. The water is the first thing that goes.

I strongly suggest that you find a place in your home, either in a basement, spare bedroom, closet, junk room, under the stairway or heated garage, and go to work turning it into your own home grocery store and pharmacy. Somehow get shelves in there, build them, have them built or buy them pre-built. Whatever works best for you. Just do it, now.

This “home grocery store” will be to you and your family as the ark was to Noah and his family. It will contain all the necessary food, water, bedding and medical supplies to sustain life for a minimum of three months to one year.

So what are the best kinds of food to stock pile? It is recommended that you “store what you eat and eat what you store” otherwise you might get sick. A crisis is not the time to change your family’s diet.

Appetite fatigue is a very serious condition. Food storage experiments have been conducted where people had mock disasters and lived on their basic food storage for extended periods of time.

If you are suddenly thrown into a diet that you are not used to, especially one with a lot of wheat, beans, corn, honey, powdered milk and dehydrated food, you will have a double crisis. One thing we do not need in an emergency is a sickness caused by a drastic change in our diet.

It is best to incorporate these foods into your diet gradually. These are the foods that store well for long term and, to rehydrate them, you just need to add water, so they are good to have in your storage along with any canned goods that you like. The shelf life on canned goods is approximately two years and dehydrated food up to 10 years.

There is nothing wrong with storing wheat, beans, rice, powdered milk and honey, if that is what you are used to and prefer. Some people have allergies to wheat and they learn this when they change their diet. Store a variety of wheat and other grains, along with flour, oatmeal, rice, noodles, evaporated milk, beans, peas, lentils, legumes, canned meats, tuna fish, canned salmon, soup of all kinds, tomatoes, sauces of all kinds, all baking items, shortening, oils, peanut butter, jams, syrups, salad dressings, mayonnaise, Jell-O, cocoa, bottled fruits and vegetables and many other dehydrated products.

Nothing should be kept for more than two years without rotating except the following: wheat, grains, beans, sugar, salt and any product that is nitrogen packed for long term storage and has a low oxygen content.

If people store what they eat and eat what they store, the rotation will automatically take care of itself. Rotating your food so your family gets accustomed to eating the grains, beans, honey and dehydrated products is very important.

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Shelves built to accommodate buckets of bulk food.

Always replace each item as it is used up so you can maintain your stockpile. Purchase cases of items when they come on sale. Our hometown grocery store has case lot sales about four times a year. The best prices are when items are in season. I buy wet pack corn and beans in the fall when they are two cans for $1. When tuna fish comes on sale I buy three or four cases. It’s an excellent source of protein and I save a lot of money by purchasing in bulk.

A sample formula for knowing how much food to store is to keep track of what you eat for a two-week period of time. Surprisingly most families repeat meals every few days. Multiply the basic ingredients by six to calculate a three-month supply, 13 for a six-month supply and 26 to calculate a year’s supply. Separate menus can be calculated for summer and winter taking into consideration gardening and seasonal foods available. Build your own stockpile slowly, over a six-month period of time.

A hint that has helped me to obtain extra food items: Every time I go to the grocery store I get two of each item that I normally buy, such as ketchup, barbecue sauce, pickles, olives, cream soups, mayonnaise, salad dressing, spaghetti sauces, mixes, etc. I put one away and use the other. It’s a good idea to keep adding more and more of a variety of items to your home grocery store, so your diet won’t be so bland.

Planned menus can eliminate the panic feeling you get when you know you should store food and you don’t know where to begin. I have included a chart in my book, Food Storage 101. Where do I begin?, to plan menus for two weeks. It asks you to list every ingredient to make sure you have each item on hand.

If you plan your food storage program out carefully you can avoid impulse or panic buying which will save you a lot of money and grief. Anticipate your needs for a three-month period of time. Buy bulk food in larger quantities and store them in plastic food grade buckets that have airtight lids. Do not use paint buckets or any other container that has been used for chemicals. Do not use garbage bags, as they are treated with pesticides. A food grade Mylar liner inside a plastic bucket works very well with an oxygen absorber vacuum packed and sealed.

A No. 10 (1 gallon) can is the best way to store smaller quantities. (We will be discussing the different methods of storing bulk food in an upcoming article.)

Store your food in a cool, dry place away from sunlight and in a place that stays a constant temperature of around 40-60 degrees Fahrenheit. Hot or cold fluctuations in temperatures can destroy the nutritive value of the food and shorten its shelf life. A basement or cold storage area is ideal. I realize that some people don’t have a basement, that’s why it is so important to plan a space that can stay cooler than the rest of the house.

Always label every can, bottle or bucket with what is in each container, the date of purchase, shelf life, and the date to be used by.

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A Three Month Well Rounded Food Storage Plan
A three-month well-rounded supply of food storage is much better than a year’s supply of wheat, beans, honey and powdered milk. The basics are important, but it is just the beginning.

I have created a plan of action and divided it into six steps. Each month you can work on one step and after six months you will have a three month or more supply of food storage, vitamins, minerals, clothing, bedding, fuel, medical supplies and non-food items to sustain your family in a crisis.

I will be writing two articles per month. In these articles I will cover all six steps, and if you are serious about getting prepared, you can make it a goal to follow this plan. Then you will quickly have your own three-month supply of the essentials and receive the peace of mind of knowing that you are not dependant on the government or anyone else.

Next time we will begin with step one of my six-step plan for storing food. I will be discussing one or two steps per month and breaking it down into bite sized steps so it isn’t overwhelming and can be done in a timely manner.

The goal is to acquire a three-month, well rounded stock of food so you will be prepared for any situation where you may need to use it.

This information came from my books Food Storage 101. Where do I begin? and Emergency Food Storage and Survival Guide. For more about the books I have written go to my website and click on Peggy’s books.

—Peggy Layton

Peggy Layton

a home economist and licensed nutritionist, holds a B.S. in Home Economics Education with a minor in Food Science and Nutrition from Brigham Young University. Peggy lives in Manti, Utah with her husband Scott. Together they have raised seven children. Peggy owns and operates two businesses: One called "The Therapy Center", where she is a licensed massage therapist and hypnotherapist, and the other an online cookbook and preparedness products business. She is nationally known for publishing a series of seven books on the subject of food storage and also lectures and teaches seminars about preparedness and using food storage products. Peggy practices what she preaches, has no debt, grows a huge garden, lives off the land, raises chickens, bottles and dehydrates food and has time left over to operate her businesses. To check out Peggy's cookbooks and self sufficiency products go to her website To get a free sample of three different storable meals that have a 15-year shelf life go here.

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  • Vigilant

    This is better advice than buying up all the gold on the market. You can’t eat gold and silver, and those metals will be useless when foods become scarce during the “long emergency.”

    • FreedomFighter

      Americans should not dither, be prepared the Progressive/Communist’s are prepared.

      When the evil Progressive/Communist create/manufacture or take advantage of a real crisis things will get bad and these servants of satan will strike…to cause misery to mankind, then enslave.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • TIME

        FF, You will also want to have seeds to grow MEDS, as in Hemp Oil, Pots leaves for TEA, to take away pain, both will work as well they will also aid you to heal far faster from cuts and other types of wounds.

        Poppy seeds to grow Poppies to extract the oil’s for meds when you need to preform “indepth” work. Its all easy and if done properly you can dry the oils than grind them into a powder, for storage.
        Use Nature to heal with – You can also grow your own anti bodies if need be. Look into it all as this part is always overlooked, even if you watched the End of the world Discovery show, the one thing that became more valuable than anything were the MEDS.
        1 out of every 3 people in the USA is on some type of med now, most have 30 day supply, so in the event that something happens, after the first round of loss, the second round will be the lacking meds issue, of what nearly 1/2 or more of who’s left will pass.

        Non of this is hard to do its all simple a green thumb really helps in growing anything..

        Also really SUPER Hot Peppers are a good things to have around too and easy to grow if you have a Green Thumb. Great to take away pain with.

        • Al Sieber

          Well TIME, where do you find poppy seeds that’ll grow? they’re all irradiated.

          • TIME

            Buy a few plants get your own seeds from them. I grow about 10 per year. I keep my seeds dry and cool, we also have a mass of food seeds as well.
            We are at the wire now, it can go one of two ways and niether will be much differant during the course of action, but one road leads to renewed life, (the other to being Slaves) for the New World Order.
            I can only hope we can abate the later as thats not life thats death to anyone who loves their freedom.

          • dan az

            Time and Al
            That is something that allot of people never think about being in pain for 40yrs I dont forget it.but another thing that people forget is TOILET PAPER

          • dan az

            Time and Al
            That is something that allot of people never think about being in pain for 40yrs I dont forget it.but another thing that people forget is TOILET PAPER so dont forget guys!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            dan az,
            you’ve never used leaves???? Just don’t use poison ivy, sumac, or oak!!! I’ve seen the aftermath and it ain’t pretty!!! That’s what cured me from being a medic in the Army! I saw it and decided to go into Aviation!!!

        • Christin

          Great info as always.
          I take notes all the time!

  • s c

    While you can eat dollars, they might be used better as suppositories (especially for politicians). Actually, you can eat gold and silver, but they won’t keep you alive. Food is preferable, though progressives will no doubt give you many second opinions.
    The basic issue here is a matter of trust. If you trust Big Brother, good luck. If you trust yourself, your odds are much better than having faith in Uncle Scam [Big Bro, Big Government, etc.].
    If you trust your family or friends, you’re still better off than relying on a government that’s busy cutting its own throat. Do what you want, folks. If you have your fair share of common sense, you won’t get caught with your pants down. If you don’t have any common sense . . .

  • Jana

    I have enough on my selves to last a month right now, and I do store water, but only about a weeks worth.
    I am looking forward to reading the 6 steps.

    Great Article, thanks.

    • Jana

      I meant shelves. Its late and I am making typo’s.

    • Average Joe Patriot

      Depending on where you live, water could be your biggest issue (and will be, for most). Consider what happened in Haiti: people with potable water were being robbed at machete-point for a plastic jug of the stuff. The law of threes: you can live three weeks without food, three days without water. Without shelter you can die of exposure in three hours. (When your air runs out you won’t last much over three minutes, but that’s another issue, good luck to people hunkering 70 stories up in a pressurized high-rise apartment unless they can somehow break a window.)

      Investment in a high-end portable water filter (such as a Swiss pocket Katadyn, used by explorers, the military, survivalists, and ordinary hikers and campers for nearly 100 years) can be the difference between life and death. This is especially true in urban and suburban settings, where most people are accustomed to water (or what passes for water) coming out of a tap. Within three days of the taps running dry, expect urbanites to be fighting and dying over water. In very large, dry cities in the US southwest, thirst will account for more deaths than will starvation, and these deaths will occur far earlier than most of those from any other causes such as riots and disease.

      • dan az

        Average Joe Patriot
        I live in a state that water is pretty scarce and what I did was build all my roofs with metal sheeting to catch the rain water which is distilled and then you filter it.It is stored in a 2500 gal poly tank which last about a month but even in the drought that we have been in for the last 12yrs there is no need to go get water because on one of my roofs in an hour at one inch of rain it collects 2500 gallons in one hour of rain.the roof is 3000 sq ft but I have smaller roofs that keep the chicken coops with water that collect 500 gal. in a hour that last about a month.even the garden gets its own supply and is the best water to use because it grows bigger and faster than ground water with all its minerals.

  • Angel Wannabe

    Already started stocking up months ago, but still looking forward to more information. GREAT ARTICLE!

    • Christin

      Angel Wannabe,
      Good job! Keep up the good work and keep adding to your supplies. We have been working at “preparedness” since 2008 (we KNEW when the marxist was running), but we still have a long way to go.

      It is a slow process, (so if you haven’t started people get going) to buy non-perishables FOODS and storage containers, put flours in freezers or containers in frig for longevity, stock WATER and rotate use, gather many MEDICAL SUPPLIES in a couple containers and rotate using due dates. Have matches, lighters, fuel, candles, lanterns, outdoorsman knives, guns, LOTS of ammo, blankets, wood for fires and make friends with like-minded people in your area so you aren’t alone and can help each other out if need be.

      Many of you (posters) have so MUCH knowledge and I thank you for sharing all of it and ENCOURAGING everyone to be prepared. I have learned so much from you and am still learning… thanks.

      Also, Thanks to Peggy Layton and Bob Livingston for keeping us informed and on top of “things”.

      • dan az

        Please dont forget to buy some pannels and inverter and batteries other wise all of the frozen foods ect. are going to be bad in days with no power to run them.If you need advice on it I would be more than willing to help.

        • Christin

          dan az,

          “pannels and inverter and batteries…”??? Oh, my.

          Are you talking about a generator???

          We use to have a generator for our “Y2K Preparedness”, but sold it when all was safe… ha, ha, right?!

          We had a gas powered one I think. Someone mentioned oil generator. Solar generator is best and less noisy, but expensive right?

          This is getting to be a bit overwhelming. I just want to live free.

          • dan az

            No not a generator because you wont have gas for it when the power goes out you need solar power it works by placing panels in the sun.This site should help you get started.

          • Christin

            Thanks dan az,
            I’ll check out the website.
            We need to do something.
            If it’s not too complicated or expensive,
            I’d like to try it on a small scale.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Angel Wannabe,
      We started last year and now have about six months or more on the shelves with the oldest towards the front as we don’t want to need it just to find out it is expired and eat at your own risk!! We have about 45 gallon jugs of sealed water, need to get a little more. Have to get a filter as well. better to look like a fool and not need it than to need it and not have it!! Best to you and yours!!!

  • Bluejacket

    I find it difficult to “stockpile” daily required medications, as doctors and insurance companies do not allow for “planning ahead.”

    • csiebert

      I was able to start a stockpile of the daily prescription medications by skipping the Sunday morning doses. also there are times I am dealing with an emergency with work and I have inadvertently skipped doses. When I do, those get put aside too. I was able to get about a two months supply built up in about a year this way.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        i get 90day fills of all of my prescrips and when they are able to be filled, I fill them. I almost always have at least a 45 day supply.

    • Bob

      Bluejackets STOP getting your meeds through your insurance company and pony up and pay cash. The insurance companies hold. It against you and you wont be able to buy health insurance or disability insurance….g 2 or 3 docs, give a false social security number, and oay cash. I’ve been on anti depressants for 20 years and I ‘m not in one insurance company database, see my post below about manipulations by the corporations……

      • http://?? Joe H.

        better not let them find out. That’s a federal crime!! big time, Just look at our pres. He used a fake SS number and look at what it got him!!!

    • Tim

      You should really get off the meds and start looking into MMS. We’ve starting stocking up on sodium chlorite and can use it for medication as well as water purification. It’s sold as a water purifier (which is does extremely well) but when mixed with citric acid (or lemon juice) can kill 97% of the diseases known today. We got my wife’s aunt of 70 yrs old off all her meds – it was kind of easy once my wife researched her medications and said “see, all the symptoms you’re having are because of your medications, these aren’t happening naturally”. She used to trust doctors soo much before we showed her what was going on.

      • Romy

        Good info on MMS Thanks Tom
        I am getting some,it is good for anybody and more when having issues.

      • Ronda

        Sodium chlorite is a dangerous chemical.
        Did you mean chlorine dioxide? This is a very effictive disinfectant, manufactored using sodium chlorite?
        What is MMS?

    • DR MOM

      Insurance companies usually limit Rxs to 30 or 90 days, but you can go ahead and refill early and pay cash to stock up. Just tell the pharmacist you want to buy this without insurance. Of course, some meds are just too expensive to do this. Talk with your primary care provider about this. Ask for the least expensive med or a generic. Also ask for “prn” refills so you can do this. One Big Box refills generics for $10 for a 3 month supply. Your provider might also give you Rxs for double what you normally take so you can store 1/2 each month. If you appear like a reasonable person, your provider will likely listen to you.

      • s c

        Dr. Mom, if my info source is right, this is the time for MDs and patients to band together and
        partially bypass Obummer’s Frankenstein healthcare scam. According to Section 1133 of that perverted scheme, “MDs are now government employees, and patients and MDs are no longer in charge of healthcare decisions.”
        In effect, we’ve been sold out (again), and Washington bureaucratic vermin have destroyed American healthcare.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          don’t look for pharmacies to go too far against the law! Look at what happened to CVS in California. The biggest fine ever levied against a chain under the controlled substance act AND they had to forfeit the profit from their sales of sudoefedrine! Said the customers could purchase a bottle for 10.00 and sell it to the illegal drug manufacturers for 25.00 to use in making meth!! 75 million in fines and the forfeitof 2.6 million in profit!! That’s gonna make the others real skittish!!

  • losinghope

    I love that line you can’t eat gold.of course you can’t eat gold,but if someone has a surplus they might trade food for gold.

    • Vigilant

      True, but surplusses don’t last, and when your food runs out, you’d wish you had kept the food and not traded it for gold. In short, in a world where EMP or some such catastrophe has destroyed the power grid and the means to run your computer or drive your car, gold will be one thing: useless.

      In that day, food might be used for barter, but no one’s going to want gold in return, they’ll want usable utilitarian goods.

      • Robert S

        I would imagine farmers will still be planting crops and would probably trade some for silver or gold. Don’t listen to people who tell you not to have silver or gold. It’s better to be prepared in case you need it. Possibly to buy more ammo.

        • Vigilant

          Robert S:

          I should clarify. Buying gold & silver is probably a wise strategy for a short- or medium-term emergency. I’m addressing the so-called “long emergency” where something like EMP (electromagnetic pulse) would destroy virtually all methods of electrical power distribution for months or years. Even the US military has not prepared for this contingency. One or two low-yield nuclear bombs detonated a few hundred miles above the surface of the CONUS, and we’re screwed.

          There can be no doubt that terrorists have been trying to get their hands on both the fissionable material and delivery vehicles. It would be surprisingly easy to accomplish such a feat from a couple of offshore boats or even from land in proximity to our borders. And when the rogues like N. Korea, Iran and Russia seem willing to sell anything to the higest bidder, this is a scary scenario.

          Worldwide communications would be severely disrupted; no electricity, telephones (cell or landline), no computers or TVs, no automobiles or civilian aircraft, no means to deliver water or food to urban areas. We would indeed be thrown back in an instant to a dark age of sorts. This is not something of science fiction & fantasy, it’s a possibility more likely to happen than most Americans are willing to think about.

          And the smart terrorist would do it in the dead of a North American winter: no foods other than what’s on the shelves in the stores, no new harvest to draw upon, people freezing to death when the oil/gas runs out, etc. And I have little doubt that existing food/energy stores would be confiscated by Big Brother to feed the martial law apparatus that would be necessary in a (futile) attempt to restore order.

          Precious metals would be trumped by precious foods. I say it again: you can’t eat gold.

          • Christin


            Yeah, maybe our OWN gov will have a ‘false flag’ that a rogue nation like Iran (who they have been playing footsee with for decades) sent a missle to screw up our power grid. The fact is they’ve, Americans, been talking about that for a couple years and just maybe they are planning on doing it at the “right time” and blamaing it on another country like Iran/Korea.

            The Smart Terrorists, using winter to cull the population, just might be our own gov.

          • Average Joe Patriot

            One retail store in the nearest small town to me (pop. 12,000) began advertising assorted emergency foods in #10 cans. He tells me he began receiving Internet threats and warnings that his place would be ransacked (had to put up steel window protection). Like he was pandering to hoarders. He’s selling out and moving to a secure location. He also tells me a lot of what he gets from his supplier is often back-ordered for weeks. Seems FEMA keeps cleaning them out with bulk orders.

            I’m sure that on some level there are survivalists, “preppies,” retreaters, etc., who look forward to a cleansing TEOTWAWKI to wipe out the establishment which has gotten us into this mess but, hey folks? Keep in mind who the biggest stockpilers of calamity supplies actually is. They have think-tank-designed habitation bunkers stuffed with weapons, ammo, clothes, food, fuel, water, medical supplies, hand-picked personnel with every skillset imaginable. Contingency plans within contingency plans. For the longer term, if TSHTF they hope to still be around to reestablish dominion. Outlasting THEM should be your longer term objective.

            What form will TEOTWAWKI take? We have so many to choose from, widely discussed here and elsewhere. My personal favorite would be another solar flare like the one which blew out the fledgling telegraph system for a year or so just prior to the American Civil War. We don’t hear about it because it caused scarcely a ripple in the modernized steam-powered world of the mid-1800s, and had no effect on third-worlders. What that would do to us today would be the equivalent of hundreds of local EMP strikes, perhaps thousands, all over the globe. It would be difficult to point to some aspect of 21st century life which would not be heavily impacted, if it did not actually come to a sudden halt for want of electronics. Yup, right down to modern farm equipment.

            In the blink of an eye, no cars, trucks, cargo ships, planes. No bank accounts, credit cards or stock market. No phones, Internet, radio or TV. No fuel or electricity. (No voting machines, yay!) Time itself would seem to stop, since all but the oldest timepieces would stop. Most people would have no way to even know what had happened. It would seem as though some Great Hand had simply snapped its fingers and shazzam! Back to the Dark Ages.

            With no one to blame but our unprepared species, and our Mr. Sun. Not the terrorists or the communists or aliens (terrestrial or otherwise), not fiat money, climate change or corporate pollution, not GMO crops or a plague of locusts or hive die-off or an asteroid or Yellowstone finally blowing its lid.

            Another simple burp from old Sol. And all the nonsense stops abruptly, like rap music from a jukebox when the lights go out.

          • BigBadJohn

            Do some reading on the end of the world prophecies, Revelations is only one of them. According to the Mayans the world ends on December 21 2012. Scientists also say that the sun goes through periods of a lot of solar activity and quiet. We are moving into a very active period.
            The first thing affected would be communication satellites followed by all computers every where (EMP burst). Solar flares can be seen now and are known as the “northern lights”. In a period of strong flare activity, these would be visable much further south and possibly during the day. The radiation may even be strong enough to kill people in the streets.

            Kinda sounds like this:

            As the sounds are heard, something astounding appears in the sky, perhaps a huge, glowing Cross. The Sign of the Son of Man. Wherever you are, you see it. It is bigger than the earth. It is brighter than the sun. Yet it doesn’t hurt your eyes to look at it. In fact, you can’t look away from it. Somehow, the whole world sees it at once. Out of the cross, something else appears. At first it looks like a bunch of brightly glowing clouds. But as it gets closer you can see that it is an army of angels, coming down through the sky toward Jerusalem. And at its head, mounted on a white horse; the King of Kings and Lord of Lords! The resurrected and transformed saints take off like eagles, going up to meet Him. The followers of the Beast weep. The saints rejoice. Jesus has come!

          • Robert S

            Vigilant Our gov’t is our biggest enemy. Most people just want to be left alone to work and raise their families. I don’t worry about terrorists because they can’t do anything in this country. Unless you still believe OBL planned 911.

          • Vigilant

            Robert S:

            In this area I won’t argue politics because I think the focus should be on preparedness. When it happens, it doesn’t matter who caused it because the important thing is the survival aspect. Do you agree?

  • Jim H.

    If you have some land, growing a garden and planting some fruit trees makes a nice addition to the food you have stored.

  • JIM

    I envy those of you that have a spouse that will listen and help you to get prepaired my family does nothing. When I try to enlist help or conservation I get a blank look and excuses. I’m just tired of fighting this. Sorry thnx. for letting me vent.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM


      Not sure if this will help, but thought I’d offer a suggestion. I’m originally from La and still have family residing in that area. Katrina was a wake-up call for many folks (even those not in the “eye” of the storm so to speak). I wonder if it might work, if you were to present the “be prepared” information in a different format, such as we never know what type of natural (or man-made) disasters could strike and where.

      Maybe if they were able to think of the preparation in terms of an incident they may perceive as more likely to happen (fire, tornado, floods, winter storm)…they may be more receptive to the idea; at least if they prepared for this type, they would likely be better prepared in the event of the perceived “unlikely” disaster.

      I think many of us don’t do more in this area, because of the fear of the unknown or unperceived type of disaster in our own local areas (such as those caused by war, etc), especially those who do not have the life experience to view this by (lived in a war zone, they or an immediate family member that spent time in the military, etc). Just a thought; hope it helps.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Jim, don’t despair my husband thought for a time, I was off my rocker, he has since seen the light_-Our kids are getting wiser by the day!!!___ I could care less who believes me or not, Do what you know in your heart is right_Jim and Good Luck!

      • Angel Wannabe

        Start now Jim, our canned good prices where we live have already started to rise!

    • MikeS-Flint


      I know how you feel. I’m stuck in the house and rely on my wife, family, and friends for everything. I’ve been trying to convince my wife and kids to start stocking up, only to be told that I am just being paranoid. I tell them that I may be paranoid, but would prefer to be prepared.

      Unfortunately it’s a theme I’m seeing all too often in our current state of affairs where everyone is lulled into this false sense of security that Americans will never suffer the fate that befell the rest of the world.

    • Christin

      Prepare anyway! …with or without your family’s support or help. Find a place in your home… basement, cabinets, pantry, closet that is air-conditioned or cool and start buying non-perishable food, water and medical supplies and store them in containers to keeps pests away from your “Preparedness Stash.” You are the man and the head of your houshold… take charge! (PS that doesn’t mean you get to boss every one around and be mean.) They will thank you when the time comes.

      My spouse, who is not always on the same page, is with me on this food, water and med storage. We have two young boys to take care of. But some or most of our extended family and friends probably think we are survivalist kooks…

      Oh well… you know the old saying:

      “If you are pleasing God, it doesn’t matter who you are displeasing… And if you are displeasing God, then it doesn’t matter who you are pleasing.”

      If nothing happens you still have food, water and meds and are prepared… if something happens you still have food, water, and meds and are prepared!!! God Bless You

    • christy


      Im going through the same thing in my home. Sometimes I become soo weary of it but continue to press on.
      you press on also…
      God bless.

  • Bob

    What makes you all thing its the “communists” who will take over!!!!??? The only ones left are in Cuba and Castro himself admitted it doesn’t work, and China who are better capitalists than we are!!! I say The revolution is coming from the Corporations who convince us all to hate each other in a false Left-Right divide…..can you say BP? union Carbide who killed 20,000+ people. In India and paid like 2cents per death?


      Bob, I studied and followed the Union Carbide incident. The state and local government would not let the local plant management follow all the fail safe devices UC had put in place there the same as they put in place in US under OSHA. They also required the plant to hire incompetent local persons to operate the plant. UC protested regualarly but refused to pay off the right people.

      The next American revolution will have nothing to do with businesses. It will be because of the politicians lying in their campaigns and doing something else. Term limits to stop professional politicians and return to citizen representation is the only answer under the current constitution.

    • Vigilant

      Bob and Phillip:

      Please expand your thinking. It’s not a question of corporations, communists or conspiracies that’s being discussed here. It’s about the long emergency where food and energy delivery systems will be paralyzed.

      The color of your political preference is completely irrelevant. It will boil down to one thing: preparedness. We’re talking anarchy as a reality, not as some parlor discussion, and there will be only two kinds of people: those who have the food & water, and those who want to take it away from you.

      • BigBadJohn

        Probably the best investment that you can make is in bullets!

        If the infrastructure collapses, regardless of the reason, the cities will empty when the grocery store shelves are empty. Everyone will head out of the cities as far as their gas tank will take them. Your food stores are what they will be after.

        • JC

          A chilling reality indeed.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          in that area, I’m well prepared!!

  • Mick

    JIM says:
    October 11, 2010 at 10:15 am
    I envy those of you that have a spouse that will listen and help you to get prepaired my family does nothing. When I try to enlist help or conservation I get a blank look and excuses. I’m just tired of fighting this. Sorry thnx. for letting me vent.
    JIM…i feel for you…i guess your family like many others doesn’t believe that America is on the verge of disaster..many people will get caught with their pants down…….

  • royG

    I have been doing this for years. Having served with the Marines in Viet Nam, our unit was penned down at a place called the Rock Pile for 92 days with 14 days food supply. I was nineteen at the time and I am 64 now. Since that time I have always had at least one years food supply stored. Now I have over two years supply. In addition to dry goods I have purchased Military MRE’s (Meals Ready To Eat), their shelf life is over ten years.

    • Mick

      royG says:
      October 11, 2010 at 10:59 am
      I have been doing this for years. Having served with the Marines in Viet Nam, our unit was penned down at a place called the Rock Pile for 92 days with 14 days food supply. I was nineteen at the time and I am 64 now. Since that time I have always had at least one years food supply stored. Now I have over two years supply. In addition to dry goods I have purchased Military MRE’s (Meals Ready To Eat), their shelf life is over ten years.

      Good for you royG and Semper Fi…….

  • Judy

    Does canning food last as long that dehydrated food? Would it be more economical to dehydrate or can? My husband thinks I’m a worry wot! I just understand the threat better than him. I have faith in God and God had Moses plan ahead.

    • Judy

      I tried to to talk my husband into buying gold when it was $325 an oz. and he said that was stupid! Now it’s too expensive at over $1300!

      • BigBadJohn

        Home shopping network was selling 10 lb bags of junk silver for $900. I could only afford one at that time. It is worth a lot more then that now.

  • Dwayne B says

    If you think this country has a chance , just think about how many people are sucking on the tit. I am in full survival mode. If my food and ammo dont keep me alive maybe it will benifit my child, Im gone.

  • JC

    Peggy Layton, Thanks for bringing this to the forefront.

    Not only should we be responsible enough to prepare for disasters,
    we should do so in a way that not obvious to others (unless we know them well), that is defensible and in a way that will actually sustain our health.

    There are so many things to consider it can be mind boggling to the uninitiated. If you live in a snow zone, you must consider heat as a primary problem to overcome. Water supply as well.

    Here’s a list of 100 things that disappeared in the Sarajevo seige.
    Do your homework folks. Be ready.


    100 Items to Disappear First

    1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy…target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
    2. Water Filters/Purifiers
    3. Portable Toilets
    4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 – 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
    5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
    6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
    8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
    9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
    10. Rice – Beans – Wheat
    11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
    12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
    13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY – note – food grade if for drinking.
    16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
    17. Survival Guide Book.
    18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
    19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
    20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
    21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
    22. Vitamins
    23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
    24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
    25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
    26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
    27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
    28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
    29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
    30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
    31. Milk – Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
    32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
    33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
    34. Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit
    35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
    36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
    37. First aid kits
    38. Batteries (all sizes…buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
    39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
    40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
    41. Flour, yeast & salt
    42. Matches. {“Strike Anywhere” preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
    43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
    44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
    45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
    46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, “No. 76 Dietz” Lanterns
    47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
    48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting – if with wheels)
    49. Men’s Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc.
    50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
    51. Fishing supplies/tools
    52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
    53. Duct Tape
    54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
    55. Candles
    56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
    57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
    58. Garden tools & supplies
    59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
    60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
    61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
    62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
    63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
    64. Bicycles…Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
    65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
    66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
    67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
    68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
    69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
    70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
    71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
    72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
    73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
    74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
    75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
    76. Reading glasses
    77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
    78. “Survival-in-a-Can”
    79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
    80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
    81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
    82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
    83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
    84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
    85. Lumber (all types)
    86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
    87. Cots & Inflatable mattress’s
    88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
    89. Lantern Hangers
    90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
    91. Teas
    92. Coffee
    93. Cigarettes
    94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
    95. Paraffin wax
    96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
    97. Chewing gum/candies
    98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
    99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
    100. Goats/chickens (funny)

    From a Sarajevo War Survivor:
    Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war (or disaster) – death of parents and friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks.

    1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate near renewable food sources.

    2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.

    3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold’s.

    4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity – it’s the easiest to do without (unless you’re in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)

    5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy – it makes a lot of the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs enough heat to “warm”, not to cook. It’s cheap too, especially if you buy it in bulk.

    6. Bring some books – escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more valuable as the war continues. Sure, it’s great to have a lot of survival guides, but you’ll figure most of that out on your own anyway – trust me, you’ll have a lot of time on your hands.

    7. The feeling that you’re human can fade pretty fast. I can’t tell you how many people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.

    8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches

    • Vigilant

      Excellent list, but the most important thing, unless I missed it, is not mentioned: guns and ammo.

      If you are a carnivore, you’re going to want fresh meat. Not to mention that without defense, everything on the list will disappear from your storage area.

      • JC

        Well, they were in a war zone…maybe to them guns and ammo were too obvious to mention?
        In any event, I did mention “defensible” and like you, I’m a hunter.
        In fact I have gone so far as to acquire a secondary post near water, wood and fabulous hunting.

        Be Well, JC

        • Vigilant

          Sorry, JC, I missed the word, and I stand corrected.

          I’m lucky to live in the ancestral home plus 125 acres. Deer, turkeys, rabbits, squirrels, etc., abound on the property, and even woodchucks and possum are edible though I’ve never tried them.

          Got 2 dug wells and a garden, and we’re all becoming more knowledgeable on edible “weeds,” herbs, etc. I sure hope the long emergency never comes, but preparedness is the key.

          • BigBadJohn

            “Got 2 dug wells and a garden, and we’re all becoming more knowledgeable on edible “weeds,” herbs, etc. I sure hope the long emergency never comes, but preparedness is the key.”

            You are fortunate to have 125 acres, that will be irreplaceable.
            I have 2 acres, a well, diesel generator and 500 gallons of heating oil in the ground. In an emergency, the house will be heated with wood and the oil goes in the generator.

            I would like to learn what is wild and edible in my area, do you have a book or resource you would recommend?

          • JC

            No Need for apologies my friend. Stay Vigilant.

          • Vigilant

            BigBad John:

            I have only picked up a few books om herbs and herbal medicine-making, just getting into it. Unfortunately, you have to read the story on each herb to find out where its native habitat is. I will sometimes thumb through the book, recognize the plant as being in my area, and then read about it.

            My guess is that the Internet may provide a source of edible plants/herbs/weeds by geographic area.

            So far, I’ve discovered that the roots of burdock, dandelion and yellow dock (found almost anywhere in the US) yield a toxin-flushing tonic when prepared properly. I’ve seen greater celandine and bloodroot on my property, useful for skin cancers and liver spots. My son has extracted a healthful juice from sumac seeds and tells me of the benefits of cattail. This past summer I discovered purslane (weed) growing wild in my garden and have mixed it in with mashed potatoes and put it in salads; very healthful. Wild roses are plentiful here in upstate NY, and the rose hips are rich in vitamin C.
            The wild black raspberries that grow out front are delicious.

            The whole thing has become an adventure for us. Nice to know there are so many things readily available, free of charge, courtesy of Nature. And I look forward to discovering many other “survival” plants.

          • independant thinker

            Mother Earth News is a possible start on finding information about edible wild foods. They have links to other publications that can provide information as well.

            M.E.N. is a good source of all information on living independantly or even totaly off the grid.

          • BigBadJohn

            independant thinker,

            Gosh I forgot all about mother earth news, I have boxes of their old magazines in my basement. Once upon a time I even ordered plans from them to build a car that got 75 mpg, too bad I could never find the electric motor they recommended.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            I have had for about 35 years a book put out by a group called the Rosicrucian Fellowship copy right 1968 called the New age Vegetarian Cookbook. In the back is a large list of beneficial herbs, some outside that definition to most people and what they are good for. Like bonesetwhich belongs to the aster family. It was used by the native Americans as a most powerful remedy for colds, catarrh, ague, ect.; helps rheumatismin it’s first stages;for dyspepsia, generaldebility; in obstinate constipationbrings quick relief; valuable in snake bite, intemperance,dropsy, bilious fevers, influenza.Usedwarm in large doses induces vometing, in smalldosespersperation;taken coldin large dosesacts as amild purgative,in small, a tonic.
            now these are not my recommendatins but theirs. It does, however, show that there were uses for almost everything during the time of our founders. Let’s face it, if you are out in the boonies and your son is dieing of poisoning and you can’t get immediate help, then knowing that something in the wild can induce vometing could be a life saver!!

  • Robert

    blackjacket I will give you an idea. with your next prescription wait about a week and go to the doctors office and explain that your prescription fell into the toilet and ask for a refill. he will grant it and you can refill it. then a couple months later do it agsin. keep storing the newest prescription in your stores in storage. then each refill will replace the current storage pills and use the storage pills.

    • DR MOM

      Robert, believe me, as a Doc, I have NO patience with a transparent ruse like that!! We’ve all been trained by experience with the best of drug-seekers! And pharmacists keep records. Please, be up front with your doc. Get him/her on your side.

    • Robert S

      Robert Doctors are probably informed when a prescription is filled. Better to flush all meds and go to the health food store.

      • Fed Up Gal in NM

        Robert S,

        Excellent idea!

  • Robert

    if you live in a liberal state or city guns are banned. get machettes, and swords. bows and arrows also.

    • Christin

      Good point Robert!

      Even if you live in a Conservative state [there are liberals and rogue militias will be present if/when that time comes]… get a machette, sword, and bow & arrows!!! Besides these things are less noisy and will not give your position away!

      Good info… Thanks for sharing.

  • texastwin827

    Judy & others who wish they’d bought gold/silver….something you might consider…flea markets and garage sales as a source of precious metals.

    Since many do not own Sterling Silver Flatware anymore,people do not realize that Sterling silverware (not the Silver plated) is over 90% (required by law) silver. If you go to garage sales or flea markets, keep an eye out of individual pieces (not sets) because there is a chance the people selling them may not realize what they have. Those with sets of sterling flatware usually DO know.

    Another thing…if you buy gold/silver, do not allow the company you buy it from to do the storage…in a crisis, you are not likely to be able to get it from them. Store it yourself…just be sure not to tell others you are doing so.

  • texastwin827

    Vigilant says:
    October 11, 2010 at 1:27 pm

    Excellent list, but the most important thing, unless I missed it, is not mentioned: guns and ammo

    You will note there is no item listed on #7. On the original list, #7 is:
    7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats and Slingshots

    Even if you are against guns, IF you truly believe we will soon be in a situation that would require stockpiling, surely you have to realize that the need to protect your family, your stockpile or even hunt from food could easily become necessary. #7 should NOT have been deleted because of personal opinion.

    • BigBadJohn

      Even if you never need the bullets, they can not be beat as an investment. In time of crisis people will pay anything for some bullets.

  • texastwin827

    By the way…this 100 item list was a Y2K survival list, not a result of Sarajevo. Only the second part of the list came from Sarajevo.

    • JC

      I found it by googling Sarajevo survivors list.
      Either way…it’s a decent list.

  • Vigilant

    By God, you’re right! I went through the list so fast I didn’t even catch it.

    Who would’ve done something like that?

  • Raggs

    We can all save food in our Brand new shiney “green” obama energy saving pipe dream ice boxes… I mean ice boxes literally… no energy required, just set it outside if you live in the artic.

    You can buy one of these on e-bay for around $10,000… It is sure to save you some money ( about .50 over a lifetime of use ) after you pay for it in 29 years.
    Don’t worry about the interest rates on your credit card ( it funds the unions )…. Oh and the buyer is responsible for all tanted food if the unit somehow fails to produce a FDA recommended standard of an edible human consumption food product.

  • Grey Wolf

    Great article & contributions! May I add to it? Back in the 1950′s & early 60′s many owners of single family residences built fallout shelters below the basement or in the backyard. I remember it quite well. If you have one of these, good for you! Keep it stocked with the essentials & don’t let anyone except family & trusted friends know about it. Many were designed not only to keep out that pesky radiation that follows a nuclear blast but also the remaining zombies who survived it. When civilization collapses, the masses will no doubt eliminate each other for whatever remains, food, water, weapons, etc. If you can’t escape, a shelter maybe your best hope for short term survival. Since the Y2K panic & 9/11, some people have actually built shelters below their houses because of this uncertainty. My dad still has home plans from the 1950′s that include a fallout shelter & Civil Defense manual from 1958 which shows you how to build & stock one.

    • Robert S

      Grey Wolf Don’t tell anyone until you need it. Sometimes you can’t trust family or friends. Some will rat you out.

  • Joe Canfield

    If it is possible to get a Civil Defense manual, like you mentioned (1958), would you please tell me Where?
    Thank you, Joe

  • Grey Wolf

    Joe try this: It brings up the aforementioned 1958 Civil Defense manual. Also if you type civil defense manuals into most search engines, you’ll find virtually all CD & DoD manuals from about 1950 thru the early 70′s! And I still have an old Philco portable a.m. radio in pink, gray & beige, circa 1957, that has the famous Civil Defense triangle logo located at 600 & 1200 megacycles on the dial. In the event of an emergency, you would tune in to either one for further information.

  • Arddu

    Another thing to store would be seeds for sprouting and a simple to use sprouter such as the EZ Sprout. You can buy 5 pound nitro pack cans of seeds on the internet. These will give you a lot in the way of vitamins and enzymes that you don’t get from the canned and dried foods.

  • bsnyder31

    If in fact an EMP were to occur either by nuclear detonation or a more plausable natural occurance of a solar flare from the sun, wouldn’t throwing your powers Main circuit breaker to OFF protect many of the electrical appliances and motors from the surge effects of the EMP? I have well water and am pretty much prepared with food stores and the like and have a power generator ready to go in the event of an emergency, but what good will it do if my well pump, furnace motor etc burns out due to a massive electrical surge? Anybody have any input or suggestions?

    • JC

      Keep a manual pump on hand and pre test it to make sure that it works.

      • THENWO


  • dan az

    Solar people and you will not mind the conditions that you may live in for the next 10yrs according to some.You can have everything that you have now except AC when the gas pumps stop you wont need it for your gennys buy batteries now panels can be had for two dollars a watt right now if you buy seconds which only have frame dents.a solar charger and inverter with a battery charger is all you need.there is no reason to lower your living standards when all you need is to prepare for what might happen and if it doesn’t you can still use it in your every day life.Ive been off the grid for 16yrs and have very little invested in my system and have evey thing that you have in your homes but with out the bill.Two forklift batteries 600 watts of panels three wind generators 1500 watt trace inverter and a c40 charge controler and a 20kw diesel generator for back up which allmost never gets used.fuel can be made from veggy oil which a garden can supply eggs from chickens meat from pigs and wild game.I live on 40 acres which both my sons have their own places on and the most important thing is neighbors that are like family which is probably the most important thing to have in a crises.One more thing is keep allot of reloads near by and all will be fine.

  • Jill

    What a great article and discussion! It’s nice to hear others are going through the same things – lack of family support on top of seeing what’s going on in this country… I just “woke up” to food storage about a year ago and really started working on it 6 months ago. I don’t want to violate the spamming policy, but let’s just say I hooked up with a company that has online tools that calculate how much and what you need to store for your family. Also, canned foods that last 25+ years that aren’t just rice, beans & tuna. So to turn a phrase: the answer is out there! It doesn’t have to be overwhelming!

    • Christin


      “Spamming policy”…?

      • Jill

        At the top of the page under “Join the Discussion.” Not that I wouldn’t love to give a plug to my company, but I didn’t want to be considered spam. I just think it’s important for people to know that building a supply of food and preparedness items for your family doesn’t have to be overwhelming :) There are tools out there that can help make it easy, convenient & affordable!

        • dan az

          If you have a web site just post it.

        • Fed Up Gal in NM


          I’ve seen others posts their company website links on here. I don’t think PL Digest will mind, though they might withold the post until they review the link (looking for porn and such, I guess).

          I’d be interested in checking out the info if you post the link.

        • THENWO


          • Claire

            THENWO–Your NWO can rot in hell.

    • THENWO


      • Claire

        THENWO–Dream on, Buster. Your kind don’t “own” anything. The NWO may be in for a rude awakening.

  • http://BobLivingston Bob

    Great article and good to see so much particapation.
    I must share a recent conversation I had with a family member
    and on several occasions with friends. I ask them what, if any
    preperations they are taking in the event of a crisis not only based
    on our current economic sitition, but as a world plagued with greed
    and self fulfillment (you all know what I am talking about here.)
    For the most part I get that glazed over look, you know the one, as if
    I had 3 heads. It would appear we are amongst the 10% who are prepared
    or on our way to prepardness.
    Most people just don’t want to believe or turn a blind eye to it, but a quick to say “I know where I’m gonna go when the chit hits the fan”
    Family or not, boy do I have news for them.
    Unless they can make a contribution in a communitable form for the betterment of the whole you are not invited.
    How many of you have heard these exact words?
    Why? Because while they were on expensive vacations and spending on the frivilous junk, I was going without and preparing for my family.
    Comments please, am I wrong to feel this way?
    Prepared neighbors before lazy friends and family….Wow.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM


      LoL………I think it’s great! Though if push came to shove…I just bet you’d let that lazy neighbor or relative in…..just besure to assign them with “latrine duty”………fair compensation I would think….lol.

      Seriously, I do think you aare right on target…..but what a funny and lighthearted way to express your thoughts….Thank you… made my day!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Fed Up Gal,
        Treat em like it was in VietNam! Three holer no waiting. Put half a drum under each seat and make them burn it!!! If you haven’t got the fuel to burn it, then make them take it about a half mile down and dump it in the now non-working pool of your rich neighbor!!! LOL!!

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          Joe H,

          Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…..I can always count on you to brighten my morning…………..LoL funnnnnnnnnnnny…and my sentiments exactly!!!!!!!!!! Since there’s no way I can top that one….I’ll just let you shine with this one…lol…you are too funny.

  • http://boblivingston Bob

    Folks, thanks for the feedback…..
    Don’t know if I will resort to Charlie’s tactics..but that was a gas!
    Love having a family that are all on the same page!

    Jim don’t give up, it took me several years for my spouse to see the light……….and even at that it is still less then 50%.
    Lets keep working at it.
    What helped me was, my 27 year old son returing home with his girl friend (of several years) and with like minds to help and reinforce
    my way of thinking to continue the fight so all are in compliance
    to fight for the amelioration of the whole.
    Don’t give up the fight, all that we think must be for the betterment
    of our family and all that we love. “Never give up”
    Semper fi. W/ a Hooraah!



    • http://?? Joe H.

      Try me NWO puke!!!

  • http://boblivingston Bob

    WOW! We in the N.W.O. (never will organize) who the hell are you!
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    • http://?? Joe H.

      he’s just got a bad case of optical rectitis!!!

    • texastwin827

      Actually Bob, the way NWO writes, I suspect he’s a 16 yr old drop out. Or maybe just a drop out. Regardless, he’s nothing more than a troll.

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