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Poll: Support For Gay Rights On The Rise In America

October 20, 2010 by  

Poll: Support for gay rights on the rise in AmericaAt a crucial moment in the history of same-sex civil rights in America — when issues such as gay marriage and military service of openly gay people are being debated in Congress and fought over in courts — it appears that the tide of public opinion on the issue may be shifting. 

A poll conducted by Pew Research Center has shown that the percentage of Americans who support the right for homosexual couples to be able to marry is increasing, though it is still smaller than the percentage of those who oppose it.

Specifically, a total of 42 percent favor same-sex marriage while 48 percent are against it. However, in 2009 the ratio was 37 to 54 percent, respectively.

Moreover, "the shift in opinion on same-sex marriage has been broad-based, occurring across many demographic, political and religious groups," the commentary accompanying the survey, which was published on the center's website, specified.

The results come on the heels of a controversy surrounding statements made at a meeting of leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), or Mormons, earlier this month.

According to media reports, LDS Church apostle Boyd K. Packer said that legalizing gay marriage would sanction immorality. He also suggested that same-sex orientation can be changed through the power of faith. 

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  • dan az

    If your going to hold a poll then spread it out.At least take it out of the gay bay then maybe we could see what middle america has to say about it.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      dan az.. I agree… I was not polled, nor was anyone I know polled. The only standard I use for this issue is God’s standard. Being gay is disobedience to God. It’s sin, nothing more, nothing less. He is against it and His Holy Word is sacred. As we progress farther and farther to the right, we are challenging God. We are also testing Him and we are pushing the envelope, and He may decide to abandon the United States. Is this what we really want.

      • s c

        Da az and Robin, are America’s puppet masters massaging public opinion again? Is social engineering on the menu? So where are those homosexuals who want to lead their lives without the extremists who dance to the tune of those who mold public opinion?
        Gays can say what they want, BUT until the American public has some input into the issue of creating yet another protected status group, then what we’re seeing and hearing is staged, manipulated and will be rammed down our throats ‘because we just don’t know what’s good for us and we have to rely on Uncle Scam to “redistribute” morality.’ BS!

        • eddie47d

          Glenn Beck’s show is staged and manipulated,most TV shows are as are most political events(rallies and commercials).Your comments are staged on a daily basis. You’re like a can of DDT,you think you are saving a few lives but in the process destroy others. No balance only daily fear and smear.

          • s c

            Eduardo, get someone to read my comments, and have them explain what I said. Once again, you have not a clue. Did I say one word about Glenn Beck? NO!
            Why should I think you’re concerned about ‘balance,’ when I know that you don’t care what balance means. As long as you get what you want, that’s what you mean when you dare to talk about ‘balance.’
            You remind me of a grade school brat who thinks he knows everything. Dude, at this rate, you’ll have to live to be 150 before you come close to knowing even half of what you THINK you know.
            Now, chill out. Call your puppet master, and tell him or her or it that you’ve gone through the motions of being an adult, and that you want to be paid for proving once again that the slow leak in your head needs to be fixed. What does it take for you to recognize that constant hissing sound?

          • eddie47d

            Looks like SC just staged another comment,so predictable. I was giving you some equitable comparisons but you’re too dense to get the drift.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            edduhhh47DUHS!!,
            Please back up your post with some FACTS please!!! Show some non-liberal sites that say that Beck lied and staged his gathering in DC!!!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            edduhhh!? Edduhh!? EDDUHH!??? When you gonna answer???

          • eddie47d

            Good grief Joe do you think I’m sitting around waiting for you to snap your fingers and I’ll come running! I never said his DC gathering was staged but his TV show certainly is. Now that you brought it up maybe that was staged to. All D.C. demonstrations are staged or planned in advance so thanks for setting that straight.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            edduhhh47duhs!,
            just because your answers are all staged and written by Mr alinski don’t project that on other people whos jock strap you don’t even measure up to!!!

      • Carole Howell

        Robin that is your opinion, it is not the opinion of all, okay? Some people are different, get over it. Just get over it, there are things you cannot change. You could kill them all and they would just pop up again and again. Do not dwell on what you cannot change or understand.

        Some people claim to have changed their life style, they were bi-sexual, not all gay people are bi-sexual.

        So much time is wasted this way and for what? You don’t change anything, you just spread hatefulness and that is against the teachings of Christ also, that makes you a sinner. Not everyone is the same, get over it. You are not hurt in any way by the Man next door loving another Man. You are spinning your wheels. GET OVER IT.

        I understand your feeling of discomfort over something that seems strange and foreign to you, but your discomfort IS your problem.

        • Jana

          Carole H.
          I really don’t care what a person does in the privacy of their own home, but I do care that they try to make everyone say its ok, and that you have this country’s blessing.
          I am a Christian and I certainly don’t have everyones blessing. With so many people now living together or as Dr. Laura calls it ‘shacking up’, whats the problem? They don’t have to have gov’t sanctions to see their loved one in a hospital, etc, there are legal ways of giving each other these rights. Go to a lawyer or go to one of the .coms to get the paperwork. This should be a given for anyone living together, not just gays.
          Now almost all insurance can go for your partner too, even though there are many married folks who have their own seperate insurance.

          • http://yahoo.com Fear GOD, not man!-James White

            Jana, you said you are a Christian, then you should know if it doesn’t line up with Gods Holy Word, then it’s WRONG!

        • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Jeannie

          You are right man next door loving another man wouldn’t be “my business” IF: ‘their rights’ were not Intruding into our Public lives, schools, churches, politics, home lives, influence forced upon our children and us adults to accept something that is abnormal, un-natural, and against the Natural laws of marriage, and Gods’ Laws. Besides a ‘man living next door loving a man’, (2 couples live within 3 different houses next to me), and calling each other ‘sweetie’, Is JUST GROSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Karolyn

            You apparently have not had much exposure to gay people through your life. Your saying it’s “gross” sounds like a child talking about kissing anybody. Are you saying they should just stay in the “closet?” The more exposure and factual information disseminated, the more acceptable they will be in society; and what’s wrong with that? They are God’s children too! And you can’t tell me that educating children about homosexuality is gonna turn anybody into a gay or lesbian. Most of the homosexual people I have known knew they were gay from an early age. They didn’t suddenly turn gay because they just thought it would be fun.

      • http://yahoo.com Fear GOD, not man!-James White

        Robin, I agree completely! Gods Word is True and Holy! All these things taking place are signs that mean it’s getting closer and closer to the return of our Lord, Jesus Christ! I feel bad for these people, too, as they will meet God, on the day of Judgement. That is the day Jesus will say “I don’t know you!” We have to be ready…. are you!?

      • Pete

        I think you have your right and left confused.

      • Matt

        Robin:

        Just an FYI, the “left” is “liberal” and the “right” is “conservative” . Lol you fail at life, I certainly hope God’s not as stupid as you or we’re all going to Hell.

      • Steve

        Robbin, Don’t you mean “pushing to the left”? Is it really a left or right issue? No. Its a right or wrong issue! If you fail to chose Christ over being gay, then you are dead in Christ and will not be saved. Shame, So many precious souls lost.

        • Karolyn

          You are so lost in Christian Propaganda. The Bible is a great book, written by men who were probably inspired to write, as most writers are. There is much to be learned in other interpretations of the Bible, which, I’m sure, you are even afraid to investigate. What about the gnostic gospels? why were they excluded from the Bible? Because they gave people too much individual power, which took influence away from the church.

      • http://Ranger2 Ranger W W 2

        Robin from Arcadia, I agree, I was not polled, nor were any of my friends that I’m aware of. I have an issue tho with Christians and people who are not homosexual,perverting a good word, to describe a life’style that is anything but “gay”, it’s deadly. Men in the pulpit used to be bold in speaking out against it, until they were silenced with threats of losing their “tax exemption”. They can take a thousand polls, but only one will be valid in the end, where God calls homosexuality, an ABOMINATION. Jesus said- Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

      • Jason

        Robin, the thing you seem to be forgetting is that not all of us believe in your God or in your religious dogma. MY God is not a hatemonger. MY God did not create a group of people to be different, only to punish them for their differences. MY God is an entity of pure, divine love for all people. And, frankly, I don’t care one whit what you or your religion have to say about it, or about gays or lesbians. Your religion and your God are fiction to me. And our government was founded on the principle that all religions are welcome in this country and that no one religion will ever hold sway over the masses. I don’t impose my religious beliefs on others, though I hold them very dear to my heart. How dare you or any of the loudmouth ultra-conservative Bible-thumpers try to force your narrow religious and moral views on the entire country? That is about the most un-American thing you could possibly do.

      • Robert Smith

        “Being gay is disobedience to God. It’s sin, nothing more, nothing less. ”

        Bishop Spong, among others, will disagree with you.

        And certainly folks who aren’t a member of YOUR religion aren’t bound by it. It would be religious rape for you to impose your beliefs upon another American.

        Rob

        • http://naver samurai

          Too much kool aid moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • shadow_man

    Looks like someone can’t handle the truth, eh dan za? Face it, very soon people like yourself are going to be remembered like the racists. We have something over anti-gays that will cause us to win in the end, facts and science. Bigotry never, ever wins in the end. Remember this when you get old :)

    • darkbrew

      And those facts are…?

      • Jana

        darkbrew,
        Shadow man is tryng to come out of the closet.

    • slickporsche

      When I am old and decrepit, Iwill still remember that you are nothing more than a queer and a degenerate, and suffering from a severe mental disorder.

      • Karolyn

        MJB – Take no notice. Slick is also prone to talk of armed revolution. So you can see where he’s coming from

    • Joyce from Loris

      Yes, but what you DON’T HAVE, is the ability to reproduce, to make more of YOURSELVES. Even though you like to throw the word “Bigot” around, remember this important fact. Just because people do not agree with you, does not make them a bigot. If that were the case, I would be calling YOU a bigot, because I certainly do not agree with you!

      • eddie47d

        Alot of people on this site are full of themselves and full of bigoted anger. Some definitely should not re-produce for they are filled with bias homophobia.

        • 45caliber

          And there are a lot of people who can’t reproduce who are hetrophobic.

          • Robert Smith

            Hey 45!

            Are you going to deny a post-menopausal woman marriage?

            Are you going to deny a war injured male who can’t reproduce marriage?

            Seems you want to apply YOUR version of “law” in America but you don’t want to apply it equally. Seems kinda bigoted to me.

            Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            Too much kool aid rob, moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Carole Howell

        Joyce, you are right, gays do not reproduce, they come from Heterosexual couples, notice?

        But,Gay couples have a better track record for raising happy, healthy and well balanced children, than the rest of us do. Have you noticed?
        I wonder how they manage that? We could take lessons from them in that department.

        I am tired of the Hate filled gibberish. Hot air, wasted time, wasted efforts. Find a better outlet for your energies.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Carole,
          Proof of what you say???

        • Matt

          I agree Carole, there’s a lot of wasted hot air from zealous religious types that’s being directed at their fellow Americans, and for what? They don’t agree with the fact they’re homosexual so they need to fight tooth and nail to slander them? What will it matter when North Korea nukes Japan and causes World War III?

          • http://naver samurai

            LIke wasting time on you, moron? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Robert Smith

          ” they come from Heterosexual couples”

          Yup, like the Chanies.

          Rob

      • http://www.religioustolerance.org Bruce Robinson

        In the words of the immortal Don Ho, “That ain’t no big deal”

        I am a heterosexual and cannot procreate either, becuase of a snipped vas deferens.

        Lesbian couples, like infertile opposite-sex couples can go to a fertility clinic, and be artificially inseminated or engage in in-vitro fertilization in order to procreate.

        Gay couples can adopt children. There are lots of hard to adopt kids in every state.

    • dan az

      shadow
      I am old and a bigot and proud of it!

    • Pete

      It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that that lifestyle is wrong…..

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Pete,
        maybe it does and we’re all rocket scientists and the people saying it’s the right way are dumber than a box of rocks!!!

      • Robert Smith

        “It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that that lifestyle is wrong….”

        What “lifestyle” is that, Pete?

        They get up, go to work, have supper, and close the bedroom door at night.

        BTW, if you wanna gripe about parades and such I’ll ask if you want to end parades by the KKK, Nazis, and all the the folks I think are ucky.

        Rob

        • http://naver samurai

          Let’s also end those sickening gay pride parades. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Doc Sarvis

    I’ve seen even more impressive numbers in polls, on from CNN, that state more and more people see no problem having homosexuals in the military. It makes sense and it’s about time.

    • alpha-lemming

      I agree with your statement. There’ve been gays covertly serving in the armed forces for a while. God bless ‘em and I hope they continue. But your statement is NOT what the law says. The qualifiers are critical. Towit: Allows “in-your-face” (openly may have been their adjective… mine’s the exact same thing) gays to serve yadda yadda yadda. Your omission is deception of the most nefarious kind.

    • s c

      There you go again, DS. Screw polls and poll-lovers.
      Get your input from those already in the military – ESPECIALLY those on active duty and/or in combat.
      Screw officers and camp-followers who are in the back pocket of politicians who hand out crumbs to those who suck up to get promoted.
      And, #*^+* you.

      • 45caliber

        We had gays in the unit when I was in Vietnam. No one really cared … until the day the gay sergeant and his lover were seperated in battle.

        The sergeant then ordered his men to take risks that weren’t called for to end the fight fast so he could find his lover to make sure he was safe. No one was injured or killed but it was only luck. The captain sent the sergeant out that evening to the rear with orders to get rid of him … simply to keep him alive. The other was sent a few days later.

        NO ONE wanted to be around a person who would risk others simply to make sure his sex partner was okay.

        And that is the reason I understand that the Israeli army no longer has women serving in the lines with the men. They had similar problems.

        • Carole Howell

          45caliber.

          And Straight men and women do not present the same types of problems?

          • 45caliber

            They do when they are mixed. But that is very seldom on battlefields.

        • Robert Smith

          From 45: “NO ONE wanted to be around a person who would risk others simply to make sure his sex partner was okay.”

          If there is ANY way to get a man back I’d expect my CO to make sure we tried it.

          Oh, but if you don’t like ‘em then they don’t have to bring everyone back. Is that the way it works in YOUR army?

          Rob

    • Robert S

      Doc How would you like to sleep in a puptent with one of them butthole bandits?

      • Karolyn

        Robert, Just because someone’s gay does not mean they want to jump on every man around. Most of them are just as monogamous as straight men (Oops! I don’t know if that’s a good analogy!). They falll in love and have long-term relationships and lead respectable lives like everybody else.

        • Robert S

          Karolyn You’ve never been hit on by a gay man. It’s repulsive. So don’t try to justify it. They had to close some rest areas on our highways in NJ because they were committing lewd acts in front of out of state travelers. Just speak about things you know.

          • Robert Smith

            From Robert S.: “Karolyn You’ve never been hit on by a gay man.”

            I have. I said “NO”. That was respected. Actually, although I’m not gay it was kinda flattering. I”ve been hit on by women. Some I say “yes” to and others I say “no” to. Unless I was married at the time. Then I said “no” to all except the one I was married to.

            Strange with all your tough talk you just can’t seem to say “no” and make it stick. What are you afraid of? Maybe you will like it if you say “yes” and you need the help of the “religious” laws you appear to phony up.

            Rob

  • Amos

    How sad it is that the closer we get to “secular humanizm” the further away from God’s word we get and I can’t help but think that He’ll eventually sieze to bestow His grace upon this once great nation.

    • slickporsche

      Well if you go to the bible,a read what God has to say about whores, prostitutes, and other degenerates, the you might learn something. To HEll with it lets forget the Holy BIble.
      Where in mother nature is it normal to be queer???? The animals will kill over it.If you think it is normal then why are men and women not both equipped with a cock and a pussy. You people basically want more rights than the rest of us have.
      I Say we need to bring back gay bashing.It would be good entertainment.

      • eddie47d

        You prove the Right Wing over and over. You might be one of those closet Muslims with you’re sick desires to bash homos and prostitutes.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        slickporsche,
        Even I have to call you one sick puppy on that one. “Bashing” ANYONE is wrong!! Hate the sin, not the sinner! Look at the guy in Texas that they drug behind a truck and then left him to die strung up on a barb wire fence!! There was NOTHING right about that!!

        • Robert Smith

          Matthew Shepard was the guy killed.

          Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson were the killers.

          Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            More like trash men taking out the trash! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Carole Howell

      Amos,
      That is not the reason we are getting farther away from God. The reason is because people do not following the teachings of the son of God. We have more churches per capita than any other nation on earth and yet we have more people in prison per capita than any other nation.

      Look, we torture people, we teach torture to others through the SOA now called WHINSEC. So we are in the business of exporting terror. So much evilness, that we ignore every day, turn a blind eye to, yet we spend so much time on the ‘Gay’ thing.

      All these churches and we are getting more and more twisted. Why? Why? because very few follow the teachings of Christ. The Devil smiles on us.

      • Karolyn

        Carole – Have you ever noticed how other countries with less church-goers and more liberal views have less crime? I am studying sexual abuse for my job, and I find that a very telling fact.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          I didn’t know Dairy Queen required that!!!

        • Robert S

          Karolyn Back in the 50s everyone I know went to church. We had hardly any crime. Your reasoning is faulty.

      • Robert Smith

        “The reason is because people do not following the teachings of the son of God.”

        Don’t want that deadly god. First he flooded things killing millions, then he killed folks in Soddom and Gamorah (What is Gamority BTW?), and now so many are using his “word” as an excuse for hate. (BTW, when did Jesus ever talk about homosexuality?)

        Nope, don’t want any part of that god.

        Rob

  • Ron

    I agree with you Amos, and I think God’s judgment of this country has gotten harsher, since the U.S. Gov’t has recently turned its back on Israel. We have Barrock Obama to thank for that as well as the current surge toward “secular humanism”.

    • eddie47d

      No one is turning their back on Israel. There has to be a two State solution and all parties need to be involved.Palistinians want this issue to be solved too. They have their extremists who hose the process up and Israel keeps building on Arab land. They are both blinded by old grudges and breaking treaties and need to be “sent to their rooms”.

      • 45caliber

        You are right in that the Palestinians want this problem resolved. The only problem is that they want all Jews exterminated and the Jews tend to disagree with that. And somehow, I can’t really blame them for their disagreement.

        • eddie47d

          Not all Arabs want all Jews exterminated anymore than everyone wants homosexuals exterminated!

          • 45caliber

            Not all Arabs, no. But that’s like saying that not all people are Islamic – in Iran. They are few and far between.

        • Carole Howell

          You know, you say that (and it is much repeated) that the Palestinians want the Jews exterminated, but it is the Palestinians who are getting exterminated. Zionism is not a religion. People who actually follow the Jewish religion are against what Israel is doing and they protest all the time.

          When I hear people say that the Palestinians want Israel wiped off the map. I think of all the times I have heard war mongers say, while demonizing our ‘so called’ enemies, that they do not value life as we do. With the Vietnamese it was said ‘Life is cheap to them, it means nothing, there is so much of it’ with the Arabs it is ‘ life is cheap to them, they all want to go to heaven and get their umpteen Virgins’

          Many of you people are sheep, ‘They hate us for our freedoms’ you will believe anything. Except the true teachings of Christ. And of course you ignore U S Foreign Policy. Turn a blind eye toward what your tax dollars buy and what is done in your name all around the world.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Carole,
            I was in VietNam and I saw a rice farmer that was sitting alongside a road crying over a water buffalo that had been hit by a 2 1/2 ton truck while his son was laying a few feet away. when he was asked about his son, he said “Can always make ‘nother son, can’t get ‘nother buffaloe”! their concern for life WAS less than ours. The only reason they removed their dead from the battle feild was then we couldn’t tell how many we killed. It was supposed to be demoralizing to our troops!!

        • Karolyn

          The Palestinians need the Jews for jobs. the Jews are just on a power trip. Oh, uh, I forgot; they are the “chosen people.”

          • libertytrain

            Meow – who would have thought you’d make such a comment -

          • Karolyn

            Liberty – I guess i just lost my head. I totally think the Jews are in the wrong. Selfish is an adjective I would use. They are using their superior military might to subjugate a smaller population. The Jewish settlers are no more than self-righteous, selfish pigs. (I couldn’t think of a more apt word. They just piss me off!) If HAMAS manages to kill one Jew, the Jews retaliate and kill 100 Palestinians.

          • libertytrain

            Karolyn, attitudes like that are what caused the mass extermination of the Jews throughout history. I will not ever be a part of that mentality – no matter what public opinion becomes regarding the Jews.

          • Robert S

            Joe H People all over the world love their children just as much as anyone here in America.

      • RexWhitmer

        There never was a need for two nations. When Israel captured what is now in dispute, it was a rightful anexation. The entire Islamic world rose against them in an effort to erradicate them and their land. For this horible war crime Israel was righteous in claiming the adjacent areas to both occupy and to hold as a protection against further attempts. Had the Islamic have won, I can assure you that there would no longer be a state of Israel, nor would there be Israelies living there, and all of the members of the UNUNITED NATIONS would have said, “tsk, tsk, too bad!” and that would have been the end of it. Israel has never attempted to dis-enfranchise anyone from living in the disputed area, but it was theirs by right of conquest. Soon we began to hear stories about the poor Palestinians who were forced to live in poverty because Irsrael wouldn’t let them form their own nation. What NATION? These were cast outs from the countries whom had attacked Israel. The only nation of Palestine ever to exist in modern times were the Israelies themselves before the UnUnited Nations agreed to allow them to live in their homeland once more. The UnUnited Nations have turned a blind to every incursion by the Muslims, but screamed bloody murder when Israel answered in kind!

        • Carole Howell

          Rex,
          You are a luney tune.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            And you are the looniest of all, Carole!!

        • eddie47d

          Rex;You are only partially right but that is an issue for another day.

    • dan az

      mister coffee
      I didnt see anyone blaming your allauh obumer whats your point?

  • http://yahoo jowolo

    I dont think gay rights is an issue. I believe human rights are. Not my fault if you choose to be gay. The progressives came up with eugenics to rid society of unwanted burdensome individuals that put a drain on society. So if they continue to gain control will gays be put in their sights later on? Will the growth of islam be the gays worst night-mare? Just sayin. I dont care if you are gay or not. All of society is equal under the law, except in the military, which is controlled only by congress and the ucmj,not the courts.

    • 45caliber

      You are right about Islam being the gays’ worst nightmare. I read an article about some Saudi prince in England this morning who beat his servant to death. He is gay – and it is a manditory death sentence in Islam to be gay. He can’t flee England in a hope of escape from the murder charge.

      In fact the English paper I read stated that he would be forced to serve his sentence and then the English would be forced to give him asylum to keep him from being killed.

    • Carole Howell

      Progressives jowolw, did no such thing. Look up the word Progressive.
      That was a different group, they are not known as Progressives.

  • FlaJim

    Pew Research is one of the most leftist organizations of its kind in America (closely allied to the NY Times) and its ‘findings’ should be suspect. It is very difficult to believe that such a large percentage of Americans favor sexual perverts. Pew generally starts with a preordained conclusion and sets its poll questions and polling group to achieve the desired outcome.

    • 45caliber

      Almost all polls start with an ordained conclusion and rig their polls to achieve it. I’m certain I can do the same if I am simply careful of whom I ask about any question.

    • Carole Howell

      FlaJim,

      Is it still considered perverted for Heterosexuals to perform anal sex? Or Oral sex? If you think so, what are you going to do about all those perverts, OH! MY! You are surrounded by them. EEEEKKKS

  • john

    Read The Marketing of Evil by Dave Kupelian..this will open your eyes to the extremists and radicals agenda on destroying the American society.There is a section on the gay agenda that truly exposes their aim.Unfortunately these gay extremists have successfully swayed public opinion by infiltrating the nations schools and indoctrinating children to accept their smut throught he politically correct “diversity and inclusiveness”..Hollywood does their part by promoting it in movies and television..the media as well..simply by using false data and made up poll statisitics they were able to turn sexual preference into a civil right in order to silence people who don’t want to be labeled as bigots.This poll of acceptance is another outright lie..look at the upswing recently in violence against gays..they push to far and people are going to push back especially when it comes to our children being indoctrinated with this lie.Read in the bible Romans 1:16-32 and tell me that the bible is some antiquated made up fairytale book..this passage alone fulfills what is going on today.The darker the world gets..the more sin is accepted..the more the cockroaches come out into the open..and when that light of Christ shines down..they will be caught out in the open with nowhere to hide and their lies will be exposed.

    • eddie47d

      As a society we’ve been forced to accept heterosexual smut(porno) for 70 years now. So who are the cockroaches? Is sex and desire a natural function? If so, then gays have that right also.Accepting the rights of all doesn’t mean you have to accept their lifestyle. Whether gay or straight.

      • 45caliber

        I have absolutely no problem with gays who have sex. I do have a problem when they insist I have to join. When someone tries to insist that I MUST join whatever it is that they want, then they are getting into MY rights instead of remaining in theirs.

        I’ve seen reports that most gays have up to and sometimes over a thousand lovers during the life – to the average hetrosexual having three partners. I’ve always suspected the reason is that the more they have gay sex the more they are missing something they can’t identify – and they change partners frequently to try to find that missing something. While hetrosexuals have found that and have no reason to keep searching.

        • eddie47d

          So gays are insisting that you become one of them? I’ll just look at that as an amusing opinion.

          • Carole Howell

            eddie47,
            I have a gay friend and neighbor who insists the guys who protests the most to gays are the easiest to get. LOL

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Carole,
            I would tell your friend not to activly practice that theory!!!! he could get his azz kicked badly!!!

        • Karolyn

          Does the average heterosexual actually have only 3 partners??? Somebody must be lying. And I’ve never known a gay person who has had 1000s of sexual encounters. Puhleeze!

          • Winnie

            I totally agree with you in what you say, Karolyn. I believe that only a few percent of the men have had three sex partners. That is such a crock of baloney. What a laugh. Most teen “straight” boys will go out with a girl with sex in mind. Most will have as many girls as they can get just for sex.. And it gets worse as they age. That’s where “thinking with your other head” came from.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Karolyn,
            I’ve been married to the same woman for 34 years. I was married once before for exactly three years but she married another guy while I was over seas with the service so I figure there had to be a “honeymoon so there had to be adultry so I was allowed to divorce her by my religeon!

    • Karolyn

      What exactly is the “gay” agenda?

      • http://www.religioustolerance.org Bruce Robinson

        The gay agenda is to give homosexuals, bisexuals and heterosexuals exactly the same rights — no more and no less.

        Right now, heterosexuals have special privileges. They are able to serve in the army. They are able to marry the person that they love and to whom they are committed. Gays also seek protection in employment for persons of all sexual orientations.

        Gays are not trying to force same-sex marriage on anyone. If you don’t want to marry a person of the same gender, then don’t marry a person of the same gender.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    The Constitution is color & gender blind. Theres’ NO NEED for this crap! The problem lies in the virus of “perception” in this country! Its an immoral plague that is destroying us…every nitwitt and their lawyer sees something different when they read the Constitution. This is hogwash! If you read the words as written they DO NOT CHANGE!!!!!
    Damn to hell these fricking PARASITES that keep wasting time and energy with this nonsence….
    Bottom line is everyone is equally protected…theres no need to have any special law or rule for this..if your rights are violated in a way that the Constitution spells out (BTW-The Ninth Amendment covers rights not specifically enumerated )thats where it ENDS Blast it!!
    Losers…..Parasites…..Leeches….Lazy scum that wants to try to milk something out of someone for free….

    • Joyce from Loris

      You are so right! Civil Rights Act does the same thing, gives rights to a certain group of people and not others. All of our laws should be for EVERYONE or NO ONE.

    • eddie47d

      Bitter Libertarian; If everyone is equal under law then why do some want to destroy so many others and keep them unequal? Either you accept everyone as an equal human being or American, or it’s all meaningless. We all want protected rights under the Constitution so that shouldn’t even be an issue. Whether you work and serve in the military or share medical benefits or whatever it should be equal under the law. Most Americans don’t even choose to go into the military so gays may be far more patriotic than you give them credit for.

    • 45caliber

      The problem is not that people don’t have equal rights under the Constitution – it is that they want MORE rights than others. That is what I specifically object to.

      • eddie47d

        Then give them equal rights so they won’t be asking for “more” rights!

        • 45caliber

          As far as I know, all do have equal rights. Except those who have MORE than equal rights.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          edduhhh!,
          Name specific rights they don’t have!

        • dan az

          So eddie you feel that all people should have the right to do what ever makes them feel good? well how about the child molesters is that ok with you? just because some one wants to be noticed for their proversions dosent make it right to teach our children an grandchildren that its ok now does it? Why dont we just release all of the mass murders because you think they have the rights to do what ever they want its a free country isnt it?

          • Karolyn

            You cannot lump homosexuals in with child molesters and murderers. Those people are criminals.

          • eddie47d

            Karolyn,Dan just did and I think once he said if homosexuality is equal then those who want to legalize beastiality will demand equal rights. He let’s his imagination run wild.

        • eddie47d

          Joe Hemroid; I see you’re still going with the eddie duh crap. Gays can’t serve in the military without fear of discharge. (and that haqs nothing to do with a sexual act). Did you have that fear when you joined? We know you didn’t. Many gays can’t get life or health insurance on their partner. Can you get insurance on your partner(wife). There was a time when gays couldn’t even buy a house if their orientation was known. Were you denied buying a house.Gays get beat up because they are gay. Did you ever get beat up because you are straight? Some can’t even visit their partner in a hospital unless they are a relative;no matter how long they have been together. Has your wife ever been denied the right to visit you in a hospital?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            edduhhh47duhs!,
            they can serve without fear of being discharged just don’t be so active about it. They can get insurance on ANYBODY!! They can get their partner to tell them at the hospital that they WANT them to be able to visit and they will be able. As far as inheritance, if they are stupid enough to die without a will then it is their own fault!! and yes, my wife was refused to visit me in the hospital once!

    • http://www.religioustolerance.org Bruce Robinson

      If the U.S. Constitution is gender and color blind, then why did human slavery exist in the U.S. for almost a century after the Constitution was adopted.

      • libertytrain

        because at that time in history, it was considered normal and acceptable behavior – that didn’t make it right, it was the way it was —

  • http://none Ravell

    The first command God gave to us humans was to be fruitful and multiply(ala Genesis 1:28), having equipped men with sperm and women with ovum which only have relevance in a sexual relationship with the opposite sex. To be oriented towards the same sex is contrary to how God created us. In Jude, verse 7, we learn why God “nuked” Sodom which is meant to be a warning to us, but I am afraid our nation will soon be destroyed because of our increasing wickedness.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Not buying that Ravell….The God I believe in has enough sence & love to NOT kill the good with the bad…there are bad people, but theres alot of good people as well…You can quote the Bible all day long, but theres big sections of the Bible missing that have bearing as well. Ever read the Book of Enoch? Check it out, written by Noah’s Grandfather…explains quite a bit and debunks quite a bit as well..

      • Walter

        If I may comment on your statement God does not kill the good with the bad. Be careful God said righteous. Righteous is a bit more than being “good.” God has killed many “good” people. I would define good as being those who live all the truth that they have. Some do not have enough truth to be righteous but can be “good.”

        Do you know of any faith that has canonized or commented on the Book of Enoch???

        • Bitter Libertarian

          I do not off hand have that answer, so if there is one that has I am unaware.

      • 45caliber

        I have to disagree with you. Many times God punished the good with the evil when he punished Israel. One of the reasons the good were punished is because the evil had forced the good to silence and acceptance. That is what the gays are now trying to do.

    • Karolyn

      God destroyed Sodom because of idol worship.

      • http://www.religioustolerance.org Bruce Robinson

        If you read Genesis 19 with an open mind, I think that you will realize that God exterminated all the men, women, youths, children, infants and newborns — both the innocent and the guilty — because all the men in the city allegedly wanted to anally rape three visitors.

        Genesis 19 doesn’t relate to equal rights for homosexuals, bisexuals today. It has no connection to a loving, committed same-sesx relationship. It relates to the crime of rape.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    Does anyone remember what happpened to sodom & gommorah? GOD IS TRUE AND HIS WORD NEVER RETURNS VOID. Romans 1:18-28

  • Walter

    The poll means nothing, anyone with a brain would know that if a poll was taken in Germany at the right time there would have been overwhelming support for killing those of Jewish faith. A corrupt society will produce corrupt polls.

    The homosexual agenda is all about over throwing the standards of our society so that those who do not want to live by the standards that made this Nation great can parasitically feed upon the benefits created by our forefathers. Yes I said “parasite.” Anyone who is unwilling to live by the original social contract complete with all the documents is injurious to the society.

    Civil rights only belong to those who are willing to support the social contract, laws, and founding documents that made this nation great. It is true that all men are created equal but this is only true in a society if the one in question is willing to take upon them the responsibility and duty to maintain the society by this they may claim those equal rights by their own actions.

    The homosexuals want to destroy the very fabric of the society that has allowed them to flourish. To take from those of us who still hold to the standards of our forefathers. Yes there were gays back then too but they lived by the same rules, sometimes to their immediate detriment, but to their long term survival.

    Today homosexuals want to claim to be equal, but they are not, they are slaves to their own lusts and greeds. This is true of many heterosexuals as well. But as a group the homosexuals are governed by their own bodies and not their intellects. No matter how well framed the argument is a homosexual may only reproduce by conversion and there lies the issue either they convert or alter the natural condition of the human to produce offspring that have been genetically or chemically beastialized, in other words make all people like themselves.

    We can not free a man who makes himself a slave by his own actions. He will only do it again and this time he may take you with him. Love him, teach him, and if he ever does choose to take up freedom support him, but never take anyone into your home or society that is unwilling to live by your rules or they will destroy your security and sanctity of life.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Well put Walter, I agree 100%.

      It goes well here…”Beware what you wish for, you just might get it and its probably NOt going to be how you thought it would be”

    • 45caliber

      Well said. “It is true that all men are created equal …” This is true. BUT … it does NOT go on to say all men REMAIN equal. Their own choices is what governs whether a person is the equal, the superior, or the sub of others. This whole arguement is about that level. The gays insist that they are the superior ones – and then gets upset if the rest of us ignore them.

      • Karolyn

        Where do you get the idea that they think they are superior? is it because so many of them are well-educated and articulate?

    • eddie47d

      Walter; Parasites!?? Homosexuals want to serve this country by joining the military and you want to deny this. You said,”Take upon them the responsibility and duty to maintain the society”. You are very contradictory! Gays work and pay taxes to support “your” society. They even pay taxes for societies school children. I believe they are sharing a greater burden than you are.Maybe America owes them.

    • Carole Howell

      Walter, you are painting all Homosexuals with a very broad brush. That is why most of what you say is wrong.

  • mike

    It’s disturbing to read all the venom & invective in most of these comments. Regardless of your feelings on marriage equality it is wrong to vilify & openly seek to cause harm to the gay community. Would you want your own kids to read your comments?!!!

    • Walter

      As to my comments I not only want them to read them, I want them to espouse them. There is no hate in anything I said and for you to characterize my comments with such a broad brush is simply an effort to diminish that efficacy of the comments because you do not wish to agree.

      While there are people who are purveyors of hate on both sides of the debate this is neither cause nor justification to ignore any opinion on the subject. That is of course if you wish to learn. If you are intransigent, unwilling to change in opinion, thought, or deed, then the cry of hate speech or hatred is as good a thing to hide behind as anything. But it you who is hiding not those who openly state their views.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      There will always be those who hate, I for one do not hate any Homosexual, because hating them is about as stupid as hating the mud on your shoes, its really immature and stupid.

      I have no desire to give any human regardless of color, creed, sex, or gender more then their own creator did! As a matter of Fact..thats exactly what the Intent of the Constitution is.

      So all the extra “laws & blubbering wording” is a waste of taxpayer dollars, everyuones time and quite frankly its a form of patronizing a Parasite.

      • 45caliber

        I agree. The rights that most gays want is not the same as everyone else; it is something better than everyone else’s rights.

        • Carole Howell

          45 you are just wrong here. I am disappointed in you.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Carole,
            If a hetero is beat up by a gay is it a hate crime?? If I go out and beat up a gay it’s a hate crime, especially if I mention the word gay or f.g. Even if I don’t know the guy is gay and I call him a f.g it’s automatically a hate crime! If a black hetero beats a gay and calls him a f.g it’s automatically a hate crime, but if a white gay beats a black and calls him the n word, it’s not automatically a hate crime! Now you want to tell me that’s equal protection under the law??? I DON’T THINK SO!!!

          • eddie47d

            Obviously Joe if you are beating up a black man you’re going to know he’s black.So it depends on how the situation is approached. Did you call him a name or did he insult you first? If it’s a mutual fight then there is no hate crime,so no case. If you know a person is gay and deliberately punch him out because of that fact then you are a dirt bag and deserve to be charged with a hate crime. It’s really pretty straight forward.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            edduhhh47duhs!,
            Why? there are already laws on the books for assault! Just enforce them!! If they want equality, you don’t start by demanding un-equal laws! Like I said earlier to slickporche what they did to that kid in Texas was wrong by any interpretation of the laws but there are already laws on the books to cover it even to pre-meditated crimes. there is no need for special laws because you are gay or Black!!

          • eddie47d

            Joe, You are so damn ignorant of history.

  • Walter

    As to Mike’s comment in general the idea that people wish to “harm” the gay community is an issue of real concern. The gay community is attempting to over throw the standards upon which this nation is founded. This is not harm but self defense. If you do not wish to be harm do not put others in jeopardy. It was not the heterosexual community that began this issue nor sought high offices to impose their views upon the gay community. It was in the nature of this society at inception that we support. If you don’t like this society you are as free as anyone to leave this society and join another or build a society of your own. Here lies the another issue. If homosexuals were simply out to support their own views they would form their own society somewhere. They have the resources. The problem is they would not have the some benefits or protections as we enjoy and there would be no large populace from which to glean converts. Prove me wrong form your own society and prosper by the fruits of your own labors not my labors.

    • 45caliber

      I think the real problem is that the gays consider a non-action by the rest of us in their search for “gay rights” to be an attack on them. If we ignore them it is as bad as an actual attack on them. And like most people who believe they are special in some way (none are) they don’t want to be ignored. That is worse than being physically attacked. They want us to have an epipheny and immediate declare that they are the chosen ones come to lead all.

    • Carole Howell

      Walter, What the hell man, none of what you say is true at all.

    • Karolyn

      OMG! Boy, are you out in left field! Look Out!!! The Gays are coming to take over!!

  • Ken

    Where gay marriage has been put on the ballot, the score is 0-31. That seems pretty consistent to me. Even California as I recall.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Robert Jacks

    I think no matter who you are and what you do noone has the right to judge but Yehua The Almighty who created everything and one and every last one of is will be judge NO EXCEPTIONS so why don’t we try to show our love for Him, repent and use what little time we have left to Praise Jim and thank Him for Yeshua His only Son! John 3:16 no man has the right to judge one another.

    • Walter

      I do not wish to get into a scripture battle, but your attempt to ignore the issue ignores the responsibility to uphold the principles and thus denies God (see Jude 1:3-4 you may wish to read on). You may also want to look at Epistle of John 7: 24. We must stand for right or we allow evil to do so is to commit a sin of omission. Where we can prevent the commission of evil we must.

      Where we would be required to uphold the evil act as a matter of law we cannot. Thus to pass any law that requires any person to violate his or her faith is to regulate religion. This we cannot do. To regulate any faith violates the anti-establishment clause of the constitution.

    • 45caliber

      Robert:

      I don’t know what Bible you are quoting but John 3:16 doesn’t say a word about judging others. It says, (and I quote from memory) “For God so loved the world that He gave his only Son that whosoever believith in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life.” No a word about judgement. It is Jesus who said, “Your sins are forgiven. Go and sin no more.”

      Your problem is that you want Jesus to forgive your sins (He will) but then want to continue sinning. That doesn’t get you forgiveness. At least in my Bible, it doesn’t.

      • 45caliber

        Ooops!! I left out one word: “… only BEGOTTEN Son …”

  • Robert Berger

    Many conservatives think that homosexuality is an “abomination”,just because an ancient book of myths,legends,and fairy tales tells them so. But the Bible also says that eating shellfish of any kind is an abomination,as well as wearing clothes with two kinds of fabric on them,and that parents should kill their children if they are disobedient.
    Gosh. If any of you Godly religious folk here enjoy eating lobster,shrimp,oysters and crab,you’re guilty of an abomination and you’re doomed to eternal hellfire.Yikes! And I guess you’d better start killing your kids if they ever sass you.And how are you going to do it? Will it be by public stoning? Or possibly by more modern methods such as by shooting squad since we live in more modern times and they didn’t have guns back in Biblical times.
    It’s unbelievable that there are still people in the supposedly enlightened 21st century who still think that homosexuals are a threat to society and that we must take measures to “fight” them.
    Some folks are really behind the times.

    • s c

      RB, you’re entitled to your opinion, but your words are straight out of a social engineering manual. You sound as though you memorized what you were taught during your first 20 years or so.
      As people in computers say, ‘garbage in, garbage out.’ Please, save the Bible-as-myth CRAP for those who have already closed their minds to please their wannabe masters.
      Your best friends (and/or worst enemies) are taught to ‘love the sinner and HATE the sin.’ The real myths that are aimed at us originate in Washington, public schools, colleges and universities.
      If you live long enough, you’ll realize that what you believe starts with a theory. Living in the real world teaches humans the difference between
      that which is pc and what works. Obviously, you’re still in your theoretical stage. Your ‘comfort zone’ is a liability, not an asset.

    • Walter

      The times do not change the truth. The truth is that a society of true and consistent homosexuals would die in one generation without recruitment. And you would say this is good???

      You would deny me the right to choose my own beliefs because it is 2010. I want to thank you have just proved my point of the desire of the homosexual community to over throw the standards on which this nation is based.

      As far as fighting homosexuals, I have no intent to fight anyone who does not threaten my existence or the existence of this nation as it was founded and I took an oath to uphold. This is called self defense. If you do not want to fight do not take actions that inherently lead to the destruction this nation or my rights. For generations the homosexual community has been free to flourish, only when the homosexual community threatened my nation and my rights was I forced to defend.

      Your comments are just as much hate speech as many of those who speak so vehemently against homosexuality. Yet you would define your comments differently, just as they would. So how are you different than the the other extreme?? The truth is you are no different. You are unwilling to co-exist in the social contract that has allowed you to flourish. This is why we should not allow those who do not support the social contract repleat with all of the documents to remain in the society.

      It has more to do with the homosexual community’s effort to harm this society than anything else. Most of the people who are now defending this society would have never taken up the issue if they were not forced to. You have made it clear you are not only a threat to this society, but to anyone who believes in God or the Bible.

      So why shouldn’t we feel the necessity to defend ourselves and the right to choose our own beliefs and opinions????

      • eddie47d

        No one is stopping you from going to church or believing in the Bible. Not one single gay person is taking away your rights to worship as you choose. Even if there is a gay person in you’re church he can’t stop you from loving God. I doubt if he would have any intentions of doing so.

    • 45caliber

      And we are supposed to accept what you say from about 50 years of homosexual activists rather than a book that has existed several thousand years and has taught people how to get along with others? Why are you so much more enlightened than the Bible and those of us who read it? The ONLY reason I see that you would push this is that you have this sin you really enjoy and want to see everyone else accept that sin as okay … when it really isn’t. In fact, I wonder if you aren’t trying harder to convince yourself it is okay than you are trying to convince us it is.

      • eddie47d

        The Bible does not tell anyone to go out and kill gays. Yet over the centuries thousands of gays have been killed in God’s name. It would have been difficult for gays to have a voice if societies are constantly targeting them. We still have societies who want to suppress them and “keep them in the closet”.Let’s get past that.

        • 45caliber

          No, the Bible doesn’t say go out and kill gays. And many have been killed. But … that also doesn’t mean that we need to accept and approve of what they do just because of the past. After all, I’ve been poor all my life. Does that mean that you should give me all your money so I can be richer than you??

          • eddie47d

            Now that is really watering down an issue!

      • Karolyn

        45, have you REALLY read the Bible? I’m talking investigatively, not just what your preacher says. If you had, you would learn a lot more.

  • alpha-lemming

    I’ll offer this up…. again. Marriage is a “rite” (a religious ceremony, a celebration) and not a “right” (Constitutional guarantee). For those of you which “separation of church and state” is the “hill you’re going to die on” the church has had purview over marriage long before the state. So, is that “separation thing” a one-way street prohibiting religion from input/autonomy while the government mandates whom the church must marry regardless of their teachings?? Unless you’re a total Commie/Marxist, you must conclude the state has no business “marrying” anyone (heteros or gays) and civil unions (partnership, contractual betrothal etc) should be the end of it. The loudest tell us civil unions are discriminatory and “you have to call us married”. We have to call them “married” for the sole purpose of stroking their fragile egos and giving weirdos with faulty wiring the illusion of main-stream acceptance. Little secret… you’re not main-stream and if you get in our face, you won’t be accepted.

    I suspect (but I don’t know) the majority of the respondants are for the equal benefits, percs, etc. granted to married couples extended to all committed domestic-partners and that’s as American as it gets. I think most altruists feel this way. However, until the gay community (good luck with reading around that sodomy thing) can establish their own church (St. Lady Gaga?? The Holy Sepulcher of the Big Brown Eye??) and perform marriage “rites”, civil unions MUST be the extent to which the Constitution allows.

    • Walter

      First of separation of church and state was created by an activist judge and has nothing to with original principles upon which this nation is based. Actually it is the anti-establishment clause.

      I have been educating people on the rite vs right issue for many years. If the state (government) can license a rite they can define a rite which means the state can and does regulate religion. Which is the right are granted by our creator only the creator may define them, government just became god.

      In fact if you read the history of the marriage license issue it was passed as a form of religious persecution against the Mormons (The Church of Jesus Christ of Later-day Saints). Hidden in the legislation you will also find the first passage of the nationalization of local (not yet public)school curriculum.

      The government has no authority to license or define a religious rite. Thus the definition of marriage is outside the authority of the government. No exceptions.

      • 45caliber

        Someone once told me that there is a short form marriage license and a long form. You see and sign the short form but it mandates that you are accepting the long form – which is a contract with the government. It mandates that you will pay all taxes or you will give up your children to the government. There are some other mandates in it as well.

        I don’t know if this is true or not. Does anyone else know??

    • 45caliber

      I agree.

    • Karolyn

      Gays can and do get married in churches.

  • http://com i41

    Who did the poll “the Pew”, a properly named group. Always remember when you over crowd any organism, you have nore incidences of faggot behavior and ahorant actions. That is why muslims condone the case of women and young girls and boys under 10 are of little use and no worth, they live in clusters and breed their children, cousins and all close realitives. Look at and metropolitian areas and the queers, steers and pervs cluster. High the density, the greater number of pervs and queers.

    • MJB

      (offensive comment removed)

      • http://?? Joe H.

        MJB,
        Projecting your own desires are you?!?!?

    • Karolyn

      God, i41, you just get weirder and weirder as days pass. Yeah, just look at all the blighted neighborhoods the gays have brought back to being beautiful and productive communities. You’re so full of it. Density has nothing to do with anything. Except that maybe you’re dense. Are you telling me there are no gays in Wyoming? You wish!

  • luvall

    Personally, I feel sorry for anyone whose identity/sense of self is tied directly to sexual attraction/behavior. This, apparently, overwhelming “addiction” that controls gays and others to the point that they can see nothing else is truly sad.
    The hatred and bigotry to those who disagree and to ex-gays just proves that they(activists,I don’t mean to imply all gays) are willing to do anything for acceptance. That is probably the saddest part of it all.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      If they understood what the Constitution, Bill of Rights and declaration of Independence said, they would KNOW how to stand up for who they are and NOT use some “special” issue to try to gain GREATER attention.
      Knowledge is Power and they lack the proper knowledge..

      • 45caliber

        But they want that greater attention!

        • eddie47d

          No,they want to live,without the harassment. The Constitution belongs to them also.

          • 45caliber

            Reeaaally?? Then why does many of their spokesmen insist that Congress should pass the Gay Rights Act that would give them all those special privileges?

          • eddie47d

            What special privileges? Is asking for the right to not get beaten up a special right? Maybe you just want to bully them straight? I see no special privileges only the right to live their own life.

  • 45caliber

    I dont’ have a problem with civil unions. After all, that is basically between the couple and the government. But I have a LOT of trouble with gay marriages in church considering what is written in the Bible.

    The gays aren’t really pushing for equal rights with married couples. They want to force the various religions to change their laws about gays. One, the other day, told me that the Bible was written by humans who changed God’s word to reflect their own prejudices and therefore could be changed without trouble. I’m not sure where he got that idea – but I certainly disagree with it. As far as I’m concerned, God set the laws and I’m not going to be the one to say God was wrong.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      I agree with you, but you have to admit that changing a few words here and there has occured over the last couple thousand years…heck between the Geneva Bible and the new International version there is a HUGE difference it what the words say…sadly

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    The Pew poll is worthless,why? its a poll devoted to the leftwing overthrow of this nation,as far as this gay agenda,its a private matter and should be put back in the closet,for it has no bussiness in the public arena,why? because in fact 95% of the population in this nation are not of the same mentality,they are family people,and feel that this gay agenda is putting normal family values on the same level as those who think they are entitled to the same benefits as those who have families,i dont hate gays,but my logic tells me,protect my family from those who may corrupt,the values of this republic,for their own selfish ends,for this nation was built by family people for family people,i believe that this gay agenda is being pushed down americans throats on purpose as a matter of national urgency,by those who wish to totaly destroy this nations family values,and it seems its the greatess danger to the future of this republic,and the folks pushing this agenda are greatly out numbered,what better way to push this lie than to print a lie,that this nation is for it,the boys and girls in washington,must love it,the more fire the more smoke,to hide behind,its a trojan horse,a pandoras box,we shouldnt be opening.as far as gays,live in your life styles privately,for its not a public matter.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      vaksal,
      There have been how many of these polls done?? Nobody in my house has ever been polled on this issue!!! No one in my wifes parents family has ever been polled on it! None of the guys I play pool with never have either. What do they do, poll San Fransico California only?!?!?!?

      • John

        You said – “No one in my wifes parents family has ever been polled on it!”
        I’m confused. Did you mean wife’s or wives? Gee, how many do you have? Huh?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          john,
          are you so DENSE that you can’t tell the difference between an “f” and a “v”??? Sure I dropped an apostrophe but even a brain dead progressive should have been able to read it!! I feel real sorry for your parent’s shame over you!!!

          • John

            Joe, I was joking. It was clear what you meant. Maybe I was also trying to be as obnoxious as you are to others who’s opinion differs from yours. Maybe if you didn’t focus so much on how other people should live their lives according to you, you might have remembered to add an apostrophe to ‘wife’s’. And, you don’t have to feel real sorry for my parent’s shame over me. The reason being, no shame exists. They love me very much. They also think I’m awesome, because of who I am, the way I treat others, and that I’m not like you.

      • Karolyn

        Duh, there are what, 300,000,000 people in the US? Gee i guess somehow you and your family got overlooked somehow!

    • Karolyn

      I just can’t stop smiling at the ludicrousness of your statements! 95% are of the same mentality?? And where do you get your poll numbers from? This nation was started by families for families? What? Family values are what you teach your own family, and if you’re doing such a bad job that the family is being influenced by gays, that is strictly your problem and not the gays’.

  • Jeep

    In my humble opinion, I think most of us are off track here. I got it, this issue has very strong religious implications. But, is this not more of a legal issue? I would suggest that the govt should get out of the marriage business altogether. Do I really need a govt record of my marriage? The fact is that govt is involved with marriage to make money. Filing fees, taxes, etc. are just the beginning of how your govt officials cash in on marriage. And, as marriage is a “sacred” institution, then let it be held in a sacred place. Marriage and divorce are issues for your beliefs to decide.

    If there were no legal “benefits” to being married, then there would be no argument.

    • John

      Thank you for sharing your voice of reason.

  • MikeN

    The reason more people are comfortable with gay marrige and openly gay military is our gov’t run education system is teaching our kids that it’s okay to be a gay. there are more and more shows about queers on tv.

    • Karolyn

      OMG! They’re all gonna start running out and “getting” gay!! If they get more education, maybe they won’t be out bullying gays into suicide! It’s people like you who create kids like that!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Karolyn,
        Gee, they didn’y bully YOU into suicide!!!

        • John

          You’re right. Otherwise she would be posting from “the other side”

    • alpha-lemming

      Queer TV??? Sure brings a whole new meaning to the phrase “another episode in the can”!!

  • ChuckL

    The word marriage was defined over 2000 years ago to mean a union of man and woman for the purpose of procreation and raising the children. it is now a legal term now with that same definition.

    There is nothing currently in law to prevent a new contract being defined that would grant or impose the same requirements upon a couple composed of two men or of two women the same rights and restrictions. The problem is with the theft of the word and changing the definition.

    This theft is an insult to all heterosexual couples who are married.

    So all that is necessary is for the homosexuals to create a new word and stop trying to gain the respectability of marriage in a union that is NOT marriage. That could easily stop the controversy.

    Of course if controversy is what is the object of this affront, then it will never stop.

  • http://personnellibertydigest Buck Crosby

    No moral , decent , sane , and reasonable person can ever accept this gross , vile , disgusting behavior . If and when it becomes acceptable it will signal the end of civilized advancement of our species . The politically correct rants of a few loud , morally bankrupt , cowards screaming tolerance can not cancel out this crime against nature that diminishes us all .

    • Milissa

      Buck, Many of God’s creatures on the planet earth also display homosexual behavior. Crimes against nature? Not sure what you mean. Since there is so much homesexual behavior in the animal kingdom, your statement doesn’t make sense.

      Check out this link. There is also several other behavioral research studies out there.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

      I always try to stand on the side of love, which is what I think Jesus would do. I will keep you in my prayers.

  • http://?? Joe H.

    MJB,
    If things are so good in Canada, then why don’t you immigrate?? I promise you I will go to my grave not approving of the sin of homosexuality!! If you don’t believe in the Lord and the Bible then I will pray that you find your way to the light, but don’t expect me to give you approval as that will never happen.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      MJB,
      I am 59 years old and I have probably read the Bible through 10 or 12 times at the very least. I don’t memorize it as I can show you people that can quote the bible from memory and still don’t understand a word of it. Yet I know people that can only quote a few verses and live it a whole lot better than you or I. I back slide quite often and when I do I ask forgivness of the ONLY one that can give it, the Lord. I believe very strongly what I read and have asked the lord for guidance and even though I can not say he has “spoken” to me, I can say I have felt his presence. I KNOW HE IS REAL! Like i said above, if you don’t believe, I will pray for you to come to the light!!! May God make his presence known to you!!

      • John

        I’m in a 17 year stable, committed, monogamous relationship. My partner is 63 and I’m 52. We are upstanding members of our community. We fund raise for charity. We own a home outright. Our friends and neighbors know us, know our character, and support our relationship. We don’t wear our sexuality on our sleeves, as with most people. There is more to a person than what they do with their genitals. I believe in God. I also believe that love was created by God. I would be denying God’s gift if I didn’t choose to share it with the one I truly love. Love is the answer. We all get along better with one another when we live our lives based on love. When you truly love yourself, that is when you can truly love others.

        • http://naver samurai

          Not if you are gay. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Pete Palmer

    Did I here someone try to back give credit to homosexual behavior because animals or swamp bugs may be that way. Clearly not a scientist. The reason there is argument is because human instinct see’s it as wrong. Human instinct is the final judgement device we have to direct human ity in the correct direction. Homosexuality born or chosen is a violation of human instinct, common sense and human responsibility. Can humanity live with it? Possibly, but who wants to make a decision that could and will alter mankind forever. This goes way beyond someones religious beliefs and lands directly on humanities management of creationism.

    • John

      You said – “Homosexuality born or chosen is a violation of human instinct, common sense and human responsibility”…

      That statement is according to you and YOUR belief system.

      If someone is born homosexual, then it is in that individuals instinct to be so.

      No one chooses to be gay. Why on earth would someone honestly choose a life where they’re hated, rejected by family and friends, discriminated against, targeted to killed, put down and made fun of, and not allowed equal rights. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to make a choice like that.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        John,
        Prove that you were born gay!!! and not by a gay study group either!!!

        • John

          I’m not here to prove anything to you.

        • Jason

          I’ll prove that I was born gay when you prove that you woke up one day and decided to be straight on a whim.

    • Karolyn

      “Alter mankind forever”????? What the Hell is that supposed to mean?

      • John

        If you can actually find the answer to where his head is at I’ll send you flowers. :-)

  • Nemo

    This is a message to all you gay/lesbian haters…. Could one of you please tell me where it states exactly in the bible that its wrong for same sex people to fall in love? Cause if i remember correctly it states that love is love and do not judge! Do any of you have a heart? Do you not think to people who love each other should be alowed to take wedding vows that actually stand for something in law as well as to each other! Why dont you all go express opinions on things that are really wrong in the world like domestic violence/child abuse… Arent we all god children didnt he make us all in his own way? Each an everyone of you who judge gays/lesbians will be judged by god when you face him maybe he will ask you who you were to judge on his children. An why im here it also statesin the bible that you should only marry once, you shouldnt have sex before marriage, dont use contreception do you all live by these rules i dare say theres a large percentage of you straight people that dont!!! STOP JUDGING AN HATING WE ALL DESERVE TO BE IN LOVE AN HAVE RIGHTS. IF ANYONE NEEDS TO BE JUDGED THEN LET GOD DO IT ON THERE JUDGEMENT DAY NOT YOU!!!!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Nemo,
      I don’t hate them, I hate their sin and the word of God tells me to do that!!

      • John

        What sin?

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