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Poll: More Americans Believe Obama Is A Muslim

August 26, 2010 by  

Poll: More Americans believe Obama is a MuslimAs the conflict over the Islamic center near New York City’s Ground Zero continues to escalate, a new survey has found that ever more Americans believe President Obama is not a Christian.

In fact, according to a poll conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press and the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, some 18 percent of United States respondents say Obama is a Muslim. This represents an increase of 7 percent from last March.

Currently only about 34 percent believe the president is a Christian, although nearly a half (48 percent) thought so a year ago.

In terms of the political affiliations of those who say Obama is a Muslim, the greatest increase has been found among Republicans (14 percent), but among conservative GOP supporters the percentage went up by 16 points. However, the poll also noted that the number of independents who share a similar belief grew by 8 points.

The Pew poll was conducted before Obama’s comments earlier this month in which he expressed his belief that Muslims had a right to build a place of worship anywhere they wished on a private land, and that this right was protected by the First Amendment.ADNFCR-1961-ID-19929544-ADNFCR

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  • s c

    After a year and a half, some things are clear about this prez. First, by definition, Mr. Obama can’t be a Christian. If he calls himself a “Christian,” it’s because he uses semantics to hide behind an Oz-like curtain. Second, no self-respecting Christian would ally himslf with someone like “Rev. Wright.” Third, no Christian
    would put America in danger to chase utopian economic schemes. Fourth, in the event that he sees himself as Christ-like, his efforts were doomed from the start. Fifth, and most important, Mr. Obama is a world-class narcissist.
    No conscientious Christian can aford to have this personality disorder. If he’s a Muslim, it will come out. Whatever else he is, he is no leader, and most of his followers might as well be druggies, as they have low standards for their Anointed One – and themselves.

    • hflashman

      He must be Muslim. Look at the facts !
      Married in a Chritian Church
      Attended a Christian Church (Rev Wright…remember?)
      Doesn’t fast during Ramadan
      Eats Pork
      Observes all christian holidays, none Islamic
      Has Jewish and Christian advisors as well as in his cabinet (not one Muslim)
      Drinks alcohol

      Yep…all signs point to Pres. Obama being Muslim. Can’t understand why thinking, intelligent people laugh at anyone who thinks Pres. Obama is a Muslim.

      • Jo Ann

        As I recall, he did not celebrate Christmas last year. His so-called Christian church is far from Christianity as we know it. It is full of hatred, not a Christian ideal. Ever hear of Taqiyya? Look it up and you may then understand what is going on with the “man in the white House”.

        • hflashman

          He didn’t celebrate XMas last year? Really? Hmmm….whatever drugs you’re using…best not be too open about it because they sure as heck have to be illegal. Give us a break. If you’re going to lie…at least make an attempt to not lie where it can be proven so easily to be made up.

          • bluejacket

            Oh I love this–an Obama defender being outraged about a lie?

            Discussing health care on C-Span? Taxes won’t go up one thin dime? First act to close Gitmo? Stop the mideast wars? Unemployment won’t go above 8%?

          • Dan Burke

            I think there was some news about considering not doing the traditional Christmas tree or something like that. I cannot recall what it was. So I can understand that some might be confused. I know some Christians who denounce the Christmas tree themselves for completely different reasons than being politically correct. Like they find it offensive because it has pagan origins. Others don’t give gifts. The list of different traditions even within Christianity is varied and many. We have just become so accustomed to certain common traditions that we assume that if one of our expectations is not met then they are not Christian like we think they should be. For example, I told my wife that I will NOT teach my children that there is a Santa Clause (my apologies to those who might be offended or believe there is). However, I knew going in that I was asking for a MAJOR issue there so a lot of my family traditions are secondary to this. I essentially conceded all the other “basic” Christmas traditions I had grown up with in favor of what she would like because this was a big one. And, yes, even though my parents never taught me that there was a Santa Clause, they still hid the presents and brought them out Christmas Eve after we had all gone to bed (I think my dad almost stayed up all night on a couple occasions wrapping and/or assembling things). And I still enjoy the many Santa Clause movies. I know there are those even within my own family that take a harsher stand on Santa Clause, not even allowing themselves to enjoy the stories/movies. So I am well aware of some of the differences and that we often get caught up in these unimportant details.

            However, that all being said, I was still beginning to doubt that President Obama is a Christian myself. And then Glenn Beck explained it rather nicely recently. If you take his spiritual advisors into consideration and realize that this is most likely Obama’s “flavor” of Christianity, than it makes a lot of sense. Reverend Wright’s apparent hate of America. So Obama is apologizing, bowing, and scraping to all those who Reverend Wright claims the great, evil, oppressive America keeps down (which includes the Muslims). His stand on the Mosque within the devastation of the Twin Tower collapse also makes sense when you consider this potential belief that America is the great Oppressor and that Muslims are among those we’ve oppressed. If you have been taught that radical Muslims have a right to hate American, then it is harder to see them as radical. Sort of like being taught that the Crusaders had a right to hate Muslims back during the Crusades (and Muslims had conquered a lot of “Christian” kingdoms…), so then you see all the atrocities that came with the Crusades as perfectly reasonable too because they were “justified” in their hate. I used the example of the Crusades because there are many who would believe that a great example of radical Christians bent on conquest over others. So when I realize that Obama may be Christian under this definition, it makes a lot more sense. Of course, I would disagree that he’s Christian, but my definition of Christianity includes follows a few opposing ideas.

            Obama = collective salvation?
            My belief = individual salvation. We are called to warn our neighbors but our salvation is not dependent on their salvation.

            Obama = America is the great Satan? This is similar to radical Muslims and thus the confusion?
            My belief = America was divinely inspired. That isn’t say that we are perfect, or that we were perfect, or that we will be. America has its huge list of atrocities, but before America, how many nations cared if they did wrong to another people? Another nation? Did you know that before we got involved in warfare, reparations were traditionally that the conquered nation paid for it. America totally changed the equation. Not perfectly. Not all the time. But we have been building schools in Iraq. Teaching them and training them to have their own military. That isn’t exactly traditional conquest. And religious freedom in the world? Well, before America, it was a struggle even in Europe. After America, it ain’t perfect around the globe but it sure took some leaps and bounds due to the effects of religious freedom here. Even with all our flaws holding us back, I think America has been a catalyst for good on the earth.

            By the way, I happen to believe that the idea of collective salvation is very, very old. It is what split the heavens and led a third of the angels to fall from their lofty heights. The story I understand is that God put forth the plan that could save those of us who chose to follow a Savior and the path would be prepared for us. Christ says he’ll do that. Then along comes Lucifer says he’s got a better a plan, he’ll save everyone…. So when I hear the President talk about collective salvation I think he’s playing with very dangerous ideas, or he thinks he is a savior (and despite all those who seem to think the president may be an anti-Christ, I think this would make him actually a false Christ by definition).

          • Ceddy Bear

            Why can’t we lie? The Prez does all the time. Oh that’s right. It’s not a lie. He always has a good “re-explanation” of previous statements to clarify a meaning that supports his personal interests.

          • Jana

            Dan B.
            and JoAnn,
            First he stated that he did not buy his family Christmas presents. His “Holiday tree” which we proudly call the Christmas Tree, in the White House could not have any reference to the Nativity or Christianity. Hmmm that sounds like a clue.

            Also Dan, we taught our children that Santa Claus was aa real as Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse. So we still had fun with Santa characters, but they knew he was fiction. On Christmas Eve we had a birthday party for Jesus and read from the Bible about His birth. Jesus is the reason for the season.

            Obama sends so many mixed messages declaring that the call to the Islamic prayer time is the most beautiful sound he has ever heard. He turns his back on our established National Day of Prayer yet he invites the Muslims into the White House for the ‘holy day’ of the beginning of Ramadan, for two years in a row.

            Mr. Obama gives off such mixed signals and from the churches that he has attended, as well as how his mother taught him about many different religions,and his not so Christian advisors who are just as confused as he is, I don’t think he is grounded on what Christianity really is.

            Thanks for a great Post. I agree with most everything you said.

          • Kinetic1

            Jana,
            President Obama is not the first president to resist references to Christian Holidays and traditions. Those who truly believed in the separation of church and state felt it wrong for the government to show any favoritism when it comes to religion. Though he himself declared a day of fasting during his presidency, James Madison later wrote “They seem to imply and certainly nourish the erroneous idea of a national religion.” And in 1808, Thomas Jefferson wrote “Fasting and prayer are religious exercises; the enjoining them an act of discipline. Every religious society has a right to determine for itself the time for these exercises, and the objects proper for them, according to their own particular tenets; and right can never be safer than in their hands, where the Constitution has deposited it.”

            The Constitution prohibits any religious test to hold office, yet the people of America continue with this nonsense. The men who wrote the Constitution deliberately and conspicuously left God out of the document, knowing the divisive nature of religion and the effect it could have on the development of our nation. Ironically, those who shout the loudest about the need to return to the Constitution seem to be among the most likely to demand that our leaders proclaim their faith.

          • Jana

            Kinetic,

            If you will reread the post and the purpose of this site,this was not about Obama not showing a preference to any religion, it is about his confusion on what religion he is showing a preference to. Islamism.
            He says out of his mouth he is a Christian, but his actions say something else.
            Again, this is the purpose of the whole discussion board.

            The reason we do want someone of Faith in office is because we have been blessed as a Nation because we have always included God in our Nation. We took Him (God) out of our schools, and now we have pathetic conditions in our schools. We don’t want that to happen to our whole country. It will though if people who do not know the Lord God Almighty, has their way and makes even the mere mention of His name become a big no no. Its not for a lack of trying on you and your like minded comrades part, but those of us who know better aren’t going to sit back and let our rights and freedoms be trampled on any longer.

            God does have MAJOR value whether you want to think so or not.

          • Kinetic1

            Jana,
            What do you know of my faith? I said nothing about my personal beliefs with regard to God, Christ, Buddha or Mohammed. As for the intent of this post, I understand fully what is being discussed and am simply pointing out that the attention being paid to our President’s religion is misplaced. Our nation was deliberately founded without a religious identity.

            I understand that those of you who consider yourselves devote Christians believe that our nation MUST include God or Jesus in all we do, but this was exactly what our founders wanted to avoid. Of the first 13, all but two states had a state religion. It was this very experience of state sponsored religion and the resulting troubles that resulted in the agreement to deny the Federal government the power to dictate what we would all believe. And if you have any doubt as to the place of religion in our Government, I suggest you read the Treaty of Tripoli, which reads “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion…” Could President Adams have made it any more clear? This treaty was proudly printed in our nation’s major papers, and the public approved.

            My personal faith does not require that the nation believe as I do. I would ask that all parents teach their children a positive code of values and respect, based on their religion or any other acceptable foundation, but I do not expect, nor want our schools to teach our children my or any other religion. My children are generally polite, respect the value of other’s property and do not use foul language. They do very well in school and are called on to help others from time to time. They do not this because they fear God’s retribution, but because they were taught to consider the feelings of others. This is no to say that we do not attend church, but is meant to indicate that the decline of our society is likely a result of parents failing to involve themselves in their children’s lives.

            By the by, the “you and your like minded comrades” jab was very cute. How presumptuous of you to think that you are more American than I. Again, you know nothing of my commitment to this great nation of ours. You have the freedom to share your faith and I and other like me would never deny you that right. Proclaiming the riotousness of your God will never be “a no no”, but requiring our government to proclaim him the God of our nation is.

          • Jana

            Kinetic,
            BLAH BLAH BLAH. You are on here to argue and you would argue with a post because it wasn’t standing in the right direction.

            You have made your point. You and Flash are smarter and better than everyone else. You have had more experience in your life than anyone else. Well hoorah for you.

            Just reread your own posts and you will see you reveal an awful lot about yourself.

          • Smilee

            Kinetic1 says:
            August 26, 2010 at 9:31 pm

            Fantastic Post and it seems you left Jana unable to respond intelligently as she was so angry and rude for being called on the carpet for her deceptions. Do you suppose you pushed her guilt button??????

          • Jana

            Smilee,
            You are so wrong AS USUAL.
            He proved no points all he wanted to do was argue and he was WRONG. Just like you.

        • eddie47d

          In 1974-76 I went to a Conservative Baptist Church. My daughter 3-4 years old and I went faithfully. The minister always berated someone or some group (long hair,gays,Jews or Catholics). I hung in there for two years and was re-baptized. My wife who was Catholic wouldn’t go until one Sunday. That was a big mistake for this minister went after Catholics as not a true religion. My wife never went back and I “paid” for it when we got back home.I finally realized how hate filled this church was and never went back to this church. What a shame they had to be this way. I can’t imagine what they would be saying about Muslims today!

          • Ceddy Bear

            honest question (all joking aside): what is a conservative baptist?

          • Karolyn

            Ceddy Bear – For one, can you say Southern Baptist?

          • Christin

            That’s a shame eddie that that pastor was prejudice. You know you really have to “check out” a church to make sure it is a Bible believing church and that they preach/teach the Trinity and the death and resurrection of Jesus.

            God loves ALL of us… we are His children. Jesus came to save the sinner (lost) not the saints (saved) and called All who were weary and heavy ladened to drink from the living waters.

            Don’t give up, try another church TOGETHER and CHECK IT OUT and decide together if they are friendly and follow the Bible.
            But also remember the congregation and the Pastors are all sinners!
            We are saved by GRACE (from God) lest anyone should boast, but we are human and will sin again even though saved. People are fallible… only God is Perfect.

          • Kinetic1

            eddie47d,
            About that same time the church I was attending was exposing the older youth to other faiths. It was a Christian based church, but they felt that we needed to understand the differences and similarities between religions. As a result I continued to explore a bit, and I can’t begin to express the amount of hostility and intolerance I experienced. Some of this was a result of the pastor’s personal views, but I soon realized that there are some churches that are so certain that they are the only “true” church that there is no place left for tolerance. To that end, I repeat one of my favorite religious jokes.

            Joe has died, and when he reaches the pearly gates there is a line. As he waits his turn, he hears Saint Peter ask each person their name and religion. “Carl Withers, Episcopalian” say a man. “Welcome Carl!” says St. Peter. “Down the hallway, 7th door on the left, but please be very quiet as you pass door number 3.” “Anna Stienberg, Jewish” says a women. “Welcome Anna!” “Straight ahead, turn left at the first hall, room 27, but please be very quiet as you pass room 3.” This goes on for some time before it’s Joe’s turn, but when he finally gets to the front he says “Joe Hendrikson, Episcopalian.” “I heard the directions, but tell me Saint Peter, what’s so special about door number 3?” “Those” replied St. Peter “are the ———-. They think they’re the only ones here and we don’t want to upset them.”

            I think we have both run into the ———–, and I for one don’t intend to be quiet.

          • JeffH

            …and that in a nutshell why is why I refuse to worship in a church, no matter what denomination it might be. To me, churches conduct themselves a lot like political parties, as long as you stick to their principles everything is copacetic.

          • Steve

            They would probably be saying the truth. muslims are a cult, I see it no other way. They shoud never have religious status in the United States of America and have to pay big taxes on all properties they own. Once more, they should never be able to build another cult building until we have the same number of Christian Church’s in muslim countrys, PERIOD. Then you will understand that it is a cult and nothing short of thug’s. muslims will never let that happen. If we protect our children now, they in the near future may not have to make a choice to accept muslim cult or get be-headed. I would rather see a million dead muslims than one dead American. We could end this really fast but, like a lot of American law’s, we don’t follow the laws made. Take a look at the president, he has no birth certificate, plane and simple. In order to run for President of the USA, both parents need to be American and you have to be born in America. This matter need’s to come to a head and not be shoved under the rug. I would like to know who gave oboma the 1.5 million dollars to help keep the truth sealed, and keep dragging this matter out. It is a JOKE that we have people that are in place to hear this and they do nothing with all the red flags out. The should all be tried for TREASON and then get someone in place that can do the job. oboma should be IMPEACHED until he can prove that he has a birth certificate, even then, His father was NOT BORN IN THE USA.

      • Conservative at Birth

        I don’t claim to know what is in his heart and what his true religious beliefs are. I do not, however consider Black Liberation Theology Christian. If you do, then do you profess to be Christian? Whatever their claimed religous beliefs are, his advisers are Marxists, who believe in redistribution of wealth. They claim it is in the Bible and was taught by Christ. I have read the Bible (Old and New Testament) several times, studied the Book of Mormon, and the Koran. The only “religion” (cult) that most resemeble totalitarian socialism is Islam. Therefore it would be fair to conclude that Obama’s religous beliefs are closer to Islam than Chrisrianity. It does not matter what his religion is. It is clear to many that he is intent on destroying our economic system and our freedoms with it to anyone with an ounce of intelligence. This would be a laughing matter were it not so serious.

        • hflashman

          I don’t claim to know what is in your heart and what your true religious beliefs are. I do not, however consider your views as being Christian.

          • Conservative at Birth

            No comments about my intelligence? I wonder why. My IQ is over 145 by the way.

          • hflashman

            Conservative….you state you’re IQ is 145? LOL … betchya my IQ can beat up your actual IQ.

          • marvin

            hflashman,two words GO AWAY

          • Ceddy Bear

            So what would you say Christian views are?

          • JohnK

            If hflashman was to go away, then we wouldn’t see how ignorant our president’s followers really are.

          • hflashman

            Ceddy…my point exactly. Can anyone answer that question you pose? They can for themselves and what they consider it to be…but no one has an overall “correct” and full explanation. So how can anyone say for a fact Muslims aren’t the same but instead all hold a rigid belief system unwavering from one individual to another?

            How can they say it? Because they think and are led by fear, hate, and intolerance. If they had their way, what a great thing to say about our Nation …

          • Jana

            flashman,
            We can say it because we understand the true Word, and know what we are talking about. You are the one who does not know what you are talking about, and are speaking through fear.
            I have also been studying the Qur’an and have been learning a lot about this religion. This religion of Islam is a complete religious, political and financial system. It was created for men, by a man.

          • Lubo

            Hflasman… Your IQ couldn’t possibly be over 80 based on my analysis of your comments over the past two weeks. I can give you direct evidence, if needed.

        • Kinetic1

          Given that ones IQ is more a measure of education and experience than values or common sense, why would we care? No one felt the need to question your intelligence, so why would you feel the need to tell us all? Should I believe you? Does the available evidence prove that you are truly gifted any more than the evidence proves the President’s religious views?

      • artinthewild

        I have read where it is encouraged even for a Muslim to lie to the non-believer – do whatever is possible to get what they need…consider all the lies we get from him….start with the transparent office he said he would deliver to the American people. How often has he done what he said he would?

        • hflashman

          I have read where it is encouraged even for a christian right wong conservative to lie to the non-believer – do whatever is possible to get what they need …

          we must have read the same book …

          • Brad,

            hflashman,

            You are just a flash in the pan, you bring zero content to the argument. Read the Quran, it’ll open your eye’s.

          • Ceddy Bear

            That statement was a lie. Now I see why you condone lying. It benefits you so you support those in the same company. And BTW “wong”, really, what is that?

          • Jana

            flashman,
            Just another statement from you of proof that you do not know what you are even talking about.

          • Angel Wannabe

            hflashman, Really Christians are encouraged to lie??__ya must have thought your were reading the bible, but picked up the Koran instead!?

        • JoMama

          I read that it is encouraged by the Koran to lie to the non-believers about Islam ONLY to further the Islamic religion.

        • Dr. Mabuse

          I’ve read that the Ashkenazi feel this way about the goyim.
          Where’s your sense of outrage about that? Considering they’ve had a longer time hoodwink you into believing that any semblance of transparency in any arena (political or otherwise) even existed?

          • TIMedWork

            Perhaps the outrage is commensurate with the numbers of hours of flying lessons taken by the object of the outrage, especially when the “landing the craft” part is deemed by the student to be unnecessary.

          • Bob

            I’ll bet none of these people has ever read the Talmud.

          • Al Sieber

            I’ve read bits and pieces of the Talmud, and suggest everyone should. it’ll tell you what they really think of us.

        • kate8

          art…Muslims consider it their duty to lie to the infidel. They consider it a sign of cleverness, also.

          Same holds true for liberals. Lie, cheat, steal, kill. Any means to an end. The agenda comes before all else. Before family, neighbor, country…

          Which of Odumbo’s czars said, “If we can’t use the power of persuasion, we’ll use the persuasion of power”?.

          • Christin

            Yes, and let’s not forget who BO surrounds himself with… radicals, communists, progressives, thugs, eugenics, depopulation/ culling believers, muslims, redistribution of wealth folks (Godless Marxism)… I don’t have any friends, collegues or business partners that believe in the destructive things they do, do you?

            As a Christian I would talk to them to plant seeds of salvation, but I would not surround myself with them or hire them to work for me.

          • Granny Mae

            kate8
            That was George Soros! I was watching one of the Christian channels one night and the host had these three men on that were permoting a book they wrote together and they were suppose to be Muslims that had converted to Christianity. It was almost scary because they were not christian and it was obvious and the host seem to realize it too. It was quite awkward for a few minutes. These guys had all the frazes down pat but their body language gave them away. You could see the longer they were sitting there in the company of a true believer that they were becoming agitated. It was as though they reviled being in the presence of a christian. When the whole interview was over they got up and left and there was silence in the auditorium ! It was almost as though satan had been there and left a stench ! The most unreal thing I have ever witnessed ! Gave me chills !

      • MichaelG

        It is required for Muslims to lie about anything in order to achieve their goals. He bows to the Saudi king and can quote from the koran. We are not sure if he is muslim, but the evidence based on his behavior and his actions with regard to how he is treating Israel & the USA vs. the muslim world is quite compelling evidence. The ends justify the means for him and his advisors.

        • hflashman

          It is required for conservative christians to lie about anything in order to achieve their goals.

          Same elements of truth eh?

          • JoMama

            hflashman -
            Why don’t you flash back to the lifesucking liberals page that you belong with, you jerk off!!!

          • bluejacket

            Did you just pull that out of your @$$? Or are you going to provide a link, or some source?

          • hflashman

            JoMama….I can prove my statements just as well as those I parodied can prove theirs. Actually, I’d make a stronger argument. You’re upset about that?

            It’s proving a point…this stuff cited by those I paradied cannot be supported even to approach the realm of realistic believability.

          • Brad,

            hflashman,

            You are proving your own point, you have no logical common sense, you believe your own lies.

          • marvin

            hflashman,WHAT SCHOOL DID YOU GO TO DUMB AND DUMBER,or the school of it,s above my pay grade,i don,t give a rat,s as- if odubo is a muslim or a closet homosexual he is still not fit to be president there is a big differance in IQ and knowledge THAT YOU DON,T HAVE JUST GO AWAY

          • Ceddy Bear

            Where are you getting this lie from? Show your evidence please.

          • Lewis Munn

            I do NOT recall anywhere in any of my translations where God has required sincere Christians to lie to anybody. In fact, the commandment comes to mind that Good Christians are to confess their sins, openly as needed, and repent, seeking forgiveness from both God and man.

            I do not see Obama either confessing to wrongdoing or repenting! And I have not seen where he has ever repented and turned to God for total forgiveness. Normally this is part of the testimony of a real Christian, but of course a fake one would not have had such an experience.

            I will put in that a GREAT many people think the Jewish History in the Old Testament is part and parcel of Christianity, when it is Jewish History and religious writings showing how Christianity developed. But NOT part of Christianity per se.

            Islaam does not have anything similar I know of…just sprang into being from one old rotten criminal! And because of one ruler a few years later, ALL the old copies were destroyed, so we do not know if it was all changed or if the Qu’ran is the original supposedly revealed religion!

            Christianity has the old books and parts to reference, in original languages that can be read by scholars of the old languages, and written about, shown in print…Islaam has none that can be seen and checked, aside from some reputed but never seen things only the few elders can even look at, in a language nobody but them even knows! Shaky documentation.

            HFlashman, can you point to your conversion from a sinner to a Christian, and explain what you have learned spiritually since? Can Obama also do this?

            Does Obama strive to be open and tell the truth to all, and live up to what he promises? The Bible does say that you can know a real Christian “by his fruits”, his actions, keeping his word, making things right where he has erred, and wanting to learn more about God and His Word…studying it for new insights into what it means to be a full Christian. Does Obama carry his Bible so in times of slack he can learn more about what God wants him to do in leading our great nation to higher moral and spiritual levels to secure the promised Blessings of God?

            I am afraid I have not seen that evident.

          • kate8

            flash, you are a perfect example of liberal twist, distortion and outright lie.

            One of the Commandments says THOU SHALT NOT LIE (bear false witness).
            Christ also said, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”.

            Or, perhaps you are looking at the example of your Liar in Chief, who claims to be a Christian. Wait, a Muslim would do that – pretend to be something he’s not in order to gain power, and then use his power against those he wants to conquer…

            Holy cow! Do ya think?

          • Granny Mae

            hflashman

            Put your money where your mouth is if you can pull your head out of your butt without loosing all that crap you call brains ! Bring it on mouth !

      • crystal

        Not to mention, he was never really into Trinity Church (Rev. Wright’s church), except what the church could do for him. Trinity is a church that all the up and coming Blacks go to. I went after college and thought everyone in there to be very pretentious. I also couldn’t get into the anti-American sentiment and teachings that flowed through the church. Not far from 95th Street is Farrakhan’s mosque on Stoney Island (southside of Chicago also) with the same anti-American teachings. Farrakhan goes further with restricting Black women on many issues.

        • Bob

          He went for 20 years and would still be going if he wasn’t running for president.

          • kate8

            Bob, had he not been groomed to become President, he’d have been attending a Mosque.

          • Claire

            Kate8–The Rev. Wright issue brings to mind the sects that handle snakes during their sermons, etc. Apparently this is still going on in some parts of the US.

        • marvin

          AND FROM THE MOUTH OF BEEN THERE DONE THAT thank you crystal for telling it like it is

          • Bob

            Obama is a Chameleon No one knows his religion and no one knows his political leanings. He is a mystery.

        • TIMedWork

          chrystal,
          A Google search quickly found this article, from which I’ve excerpted a small portion:
          “Since his election, Christian watchdogs have grown increasingly agitated by the apparent lack of, and even disregard for, Christian sensitivities in the White House. Some examples include:
          -Per White House request, Georgetown University in April covered up a white cross and a symbol for the name of Jesus that would have appeared over Obama’s head at a speech.
          - The President declined publicly to celebrate the National Day of Prayer at the White House – yet hosted a large bash for Gay and Lesbian Pride Month in June, and recognized the Islamic holy month of Ramadan at the White House.
          - While matter-of-factly noting that George Washington recognized Thanksgiving as celebrating “the many and signal favors of Almighty God,” Obama’s Thanksgiving proclamation was the first in U.S. history to exhort celebration of the holiday without actually acknowledging the existence of God or Divine Providence.
          - For the first time in 43 years, the Obama Administration banned a military flyover at a “God and Country Rally” in Nampa, Idaho.
          - On a White House Christmas tree, the President asked that no religious ornaments be displayed – yet, ironically, reportedly allowed an ornament displaying the image of Chinese dictator and mass murderer Mao Tse Tung.
          “The issue is not whether a President has to attend church on a regular basis to be an effective President. They do not,” commented Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Director of the Washington, D.C. based Christian Defense Coalition. “The issue is one of integrity and honesty.
          “To portray yourself as person of deep Christian faith and very involved in the life of the local church during the campaign and then abandon that position after you are elected reduces faith to a commodity and religion to a political tool.”

          • Angel Wannabe

            Timedwork, hey you did some home work, great post!

          • Jana

            TIMedWork,

            That was a great post and hit the nail on the head.

          • Granny Mae

            TIMedWork

            Great Post! I agree with everything you said !

      • Norm

        hflashman
        He was also sworn into office using a Christian (Lincoln) bible.

        • hflashman

          EGADS Norm ! THAT PROVES he’s a Muslim beyond doubt !

          • Angel Wannabe

            hflashman, libs lie BEFORE and AFTER winning and election?!

          • Lubo

            hflasman…What proves he is anti-Christian is the words of his mouth.

            Pay attention to what he says and then what he does. If you can comprehend that?

        • Granny Mae

          Norm

          He was sworn inwith the Lincoln Bible in public but if you remember they redid his swearing in later on the inside stating the Chief Justice made some mistakes in wording so they did it over in private later. Who knows now what is true and what isn’t?

      • Angel Wannabe

        hflashman, Just because some guy sports a white beard, smokes a pipe while wearing a red suit, doesn’t automatically make him Santa Claus?!.
        He was raised and exposed across the board in Muslim Society__Ya ever stop and think by Obama attending Christians churches, may help hide the real facts of his past????

        • Smilee

          Your interpretation of the real facts, problem being your not factual!!!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            smellee, prove it!

      • Paul C

        Perhaps you missed the recent dinner in the White House in Celebration of the start of Ramadan

        • Lewis Munn

          Has anybody checked to see if the White House folks fasted in the day and pigged out…oops…ate heavily at night, as is customary in Ramadan?

          Requirement for Islaam.

          Anyone think Obama’s professed religion varies according to what groups he is trying to impress?

          • Angel Wannabe

            Lewis Munn___Damn good point!

          • Jana

            Hey, I agree, he sways with whatever group he is with. Hmmm, now isn’t that just typical of a lib?

          • Granny Mae

            Lewis Munn
            I’m wondering what the rules are for their fasting? Maybe they can snack durring the day but can’t eat heavy till evening. The fasting rules for the Catholic church have changed over the years so maybe their rues have too? Then again I have never known what their rules for fasting are. Might be interresting to find out !

          • Jana

            When in Iraq the soldiers were not allowed to eat in front of the ‘fasting’ Muslims. They stayed awake all night partying and eating and during the day they were no good to anyone. All they wanted to do was sleep.
            So much for truly fasting during the day, they just switched from being active from day to night.
            I don’t know what they do here in the states.

      • refuse2lose

        Have you heard the speeches “Reverend” Wright has nade? How about GD America? How about going to his website and finding out just what he believes and teaches. Ever heard of BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY? Are you aware that the Quran orders muslims to lie to infidels and that they are allowed to pretend they are not muslim? You guys kill me…. what is like to live with your EYES WIDE SHUT????

        • TIMedWork

          refuse2lose,
          “eyes wide shut”

          The phrase “Sheep to the slaughter” comes to mind. They will resist least that do not see it coming or do not care.

        • Lewis Munn

          I, for one, read a considerable portion of the Qu’ran while arguing the scientific basis of Islaam, and Islaamic education, and in an on-line discussion group years ago. I think yahoo closed that group long ago.

          I am not a scholar, but I have read what Muslims are supposed to do, and to lie to advance Islaam is virtually required.

      • Tom

        The hijackers on 9/11 went to strip clubs on multiple occasions and got drunk the night of 9/10.

      • James

        You are an idiot for even thinking he’s not Muslim. Go read your damn Quaran again! It’s part of the “Modus Operandi” to lie about anything that will allow them to be perceived a certain way. But, now that he’s Prez., he’s showing his true colors. WAKE THE F–K UP!

        • James

          For the record, I am not the “James” that wrote this!

      • Pat

        I must be a hamburger because I eat at McDonald’s. And I must be a car because I have a garage. So, I must be a Christian because I go to church. Hmmmm…..

      • kate8

        flash, It was all just window dressing to get him into the WH.

        His whole life has been a creation out of thin air. It’s all about appearances and deception.

        Get a clue.

        • kate8

          BTW, Every comment Odumbo has made regarding Christianity has been the opposite of what Christianity actually teaches.

          Not only that, but he speaks with utter disdain when talking about the Bible. He twists what it says, and uses it to deceive.

      • Lubo

        Ole Flasham….Obama is a direct product of Black Liberation Theology (a derivative of marxism) out of the Chicago church of rev. wright which has stated on numerous occasions that he believes in “Collective Salvation” .

        Since you seem to be an expert on most everything but a master of nothing, why don’t you explain to the audience how “Collective Salvation” relates to the Holly Scripture and Jesus Chirst at Calvary.

        You cannot possibly be this foolish or think that the folks on this blog COULD POSSIBLY BE THAT FOOLISH!

        Drink you progressive dope-laced MILK and go to bed and leave problem solving to the things of MATURE independent thinking adults.

        • Lubo

          Flashman…… One other thing before I do somethng more productive with my time other than toy with a foolish GOD-Hating progressive. If anyone would like to check the facts about ole flashman, then all they need do is review Flashes comments on:

          ADL: Court Ruling On Crosses Reaffirms U.S. Constitution »

          I’m VERY curious as to how the same individual can have such a hatred contempt for GOD and HIS Christian followers but insists that his Messiah(Barack Obama) is a Christian.

          I rest my case!

          Goodnight!

      • michelleo

        Attended a Christian Church (Rev Wright…remember?)

        you call that cristian????

        and Im mayor Bloomberg

      • Jerry M

        Well, No one said he was a good Muslim.

      • Mitch

        First of all, you don’t know one thing about his private life nor do I. Frankly, I think if I was a fly on the wall of the White House I would be so disgusted with what I saw and heard I would turn into a butterfly and my cover would be blown.

        Seriously, who gives a rat’s ass if he’s Muslim – he sucks up to them and sympathizes with them and prefers their company and trust over that of average Americans with whom he cannot relate. He’s so far from American mainstream or mentality it’s not even funny. It’s like the dude is from some other planet. I mean, he talks like a robot and can’t put together one sentence without stammering and stuttering and using fifty “uh”s.

        I remember seeing a video of him being interviewed by reports by the gate at the hotel in which he was staying during one of his early trips to Hawaii at Easter time. It was Easter Sunday and one of the reporters asked him what he and the family were up to, to which he replied “Oh, we were just reading the scriptures together…” I GUARANTEE YOU had one of those reports asked him a question like “from which book are you reading?” Obama would have been caught red-handed. He wouldn’t have known what to say. He would have probably said something stupid like “Oh… we’re just browsing around the old testament, and seeing how Abraham and Apostle Paul were together in a cave having communion…” There is no doubt in my mind that he couldn’t cite one Bible verse at all. Not one.

        I would like someone to ask him to complete the verse “For God so loved the world…” Obama’s response would be “that he sent me, the most awesomest hoop=shooting multi-ethnic cat ever to rub elbows with these low-level rednecks so that I can save them from their stupid selves.”

      • karen

        He’s a duck!

    • EddieW

      He worshipped on the Muslim National Day of Prayer at the White House with a bug bunch of them Yet canceleda the National Day of Prayer for Christions…didn’t want to offend anyone…WE ARE OFFENDED by this!!!! but we don’t count!!!! Proof: http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t38/Barnabus1/?action=view&current=MuslimDayofPrayer.jpg

      • EddieW

        shoulda proofed my spelling!!!

    • Warrior

      Simply put, Oblama and his henchman belong to the church of divine FRAUDS! – Get rid of all the democraps and progressives.

    • Frank Hanson

      Obama is for himself which makes “HIMSELF” the “religion”. Sad part he
      can’t save himself.

  • Georgetown

    People think that he is Muslim because of his behavior and own speech.
    Take good look at the promise he made to Islamic Muslims in Cairo, then examine how proved himself and kept that promise this year.

    “my father came from a Kenyan family that includes generations of Muslims. As a boy, I spent several years in Indonesia and heard the call of the azaan at the break of dawn and the fall of dusk. As a young man, I worked in Chicago communities where many found dignity and peace in their Muslim faith.”

    There are 2 completely full paragraphs of his intimate relationship with the Islamic Muslims. He even goes on about their history and culture. Compare to the three (3)words he says about being a Christian. “I am a Christian”. No History, elaboration no intimate detail as he does for the Muslims.

    ” And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”

    Is that really his Job to protect Islamic Muslims? I thought his job was to protect the US from domestic terrorist, foreign and abroad.

    At a Ramadan dinner He proves his passion and commitment to to Islam as he keeps his promise he made in Cairo:

    “As a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country. And that includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center”

    He also interjects a subtle hint that the Muslims are being discriminated against, and he is using his power int he office to protect “Muslims rights”. He could care less about the Americans and
    and their right to grieve in peace. Now Ground Zero has become a battle ground for freedom of speech and religion. Part his job is to maintain peace not to stir up a war. H may as well give back the Noble peace prize, there will be no peace at Ground Zero.

    • Pat

      Very well written.

    • Brad,

      Georgetown,

      Well said!!!

      • hflashman

        Well said if you consider a distorted viewpoint based upon taking everything to the extreme and interjecting one’s own tainted bias…

        He did put periods in the right place…

        • Brad,

          hflashman,

          No sir, the tainted truth is coming from your mouth, everything posted so far has been qouted from Obama or his books. Disprove your savior, ha said it not us.

        • Conservatives United

          Why don’t you go back to the sewer that you crawled out of. You have bought the propaganda that the

        • Conservatives United

          Why don’t you go back to the sewer that you crawled out of. You have bought the propaganda that the ILLEGAL IN THE WHITE HOUSE and his marxist/socialist thugs have fed you. You must be a product of the government schools, that are not institutions of learning, but have become institutions endoctination. I know this, from the inside, as a former teacher, that saw this decline that started in the late 1960′s.

          • Conservative at Birth

            I graduated from a public high school in Denver Colorado. I would estimate that 10% of the teachers were totalitarian socialists. The percentage has gotten worse since then. Many of those teachers moved to Boulder and became professors at C.U., where my sister went and lost her ability to think indepentantly. Subsequently, she regained her ability to think for herself. Where were the the parents of these students. My children attended public schools, and all are Conservative. I wonder why.

          • Conservatives United

            Fortunately there are a number of our young people that are learning in the government schools inspite of the system. Unfortunately many bright minds have been and are lost forever, to the propaganda and endoctination that is taking place. The education ysystem was one of the first things that the marxist/socialist went after to gain control, along with the media.

        • marvin

          flashless go away you have over stayed your welcome, your like abscess that need to be cut out and removed,we are having a grownup talk

          • Karolyn

            Can’t stand the heat?

        • dan az

          Hey Flash check this out!
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

          can you say muslim!

    • Don

      The Constitution provides that the government shall make no laws affecting an establishment of religion. It is the duty of the President to uphold the Constitution. Ergo, he must assure that Muslims and all other religions have the right to practice their own religion on their own property.

      Why is this difficult to understand?

      For your information, it is not against the law to be a Muslim and to practice the Islamic religion in the United States. It never has been. There is a Muslim who is a member of Congress elected by a largely Christian district.

      You need a refresher course in Christianity. I suggest you read the New Testament and what Christ had to say about loving ones enemies.

      • bluejacket

        The Constitution is not a reference guide that the Obama administration is using at this time.

      • marvin

        we let people practice vodo,witch craft, satanisum,and just about any thing they wish,but that don,t say i or we have to like it or condone it,when was the last time a woman was stoned to death in the usa for adultry or for being raped ,or to selling your 7 year old girl to a 60 year old man to do as he wants when was the last time a judge had hands cut off for stealing

        • Jana

          marvin,
          I would imagine in some of our Muslim communities it is done occasionally. Then when the daughters won’t cooperate, they are murdered. That has definitley been done here in the United States.

  • dan az

    I heard today that on the news there was a cement contractor in NY named quito in a hard hat with a USA flag on it saying (it aint going to happen) when they try to cross a picket line there, all hell is going to break loose.

  • Claire

    Although I hate violence, especially within the US, but I don’t see any way out of this chaos. I don’t approve of what the muslims “stand for” and I do not approve of their so-called mosque–I refer to it as the temple of doom. I really wish they would go back to their homeland but it ain’t gonna happen. I also heard one of the guys that supports the muslims is one of the owners of Fox News. That is another thing that concerns me–so many foreigners own US businesses, banks, land, etc. and this is scary. If we keep voting in the incumbents, it will be the same garbage over and over again. We have to stand up for America, and I think we all feel this way. We are in for the fight of our lives. The next few months will be the deciding factor.

    • Conservative at Birth

      Where did you hear this? Which owner? If Rupert Murdoch supports Muslims, why does he allow Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity to question the validity of the Mosque at Ground Zero?

      • Brad,

        Hey conservative,

        Yes, a Saudi Prince dose own a 7% stake in News Corp the parent company of Fox news. Just wish Rupert Murdock would buy him out.

        • hflashman

          Didn’t you know/ Murdock and FOX are part of the Islamic agenda to take over this country ! They’ve done enough damage to our nation … must be true.

          • Brad,

            hflashman,

            you are pathetic, the obama team is bringing down this great country and you have the gall to that.

          • kate8

            flash, Yep. And they’re all in bed with Odumbo. Best buds. Lodge brothers. Partners in crime. Usurpers of power….

            Can you really not see what is going on? While it’s tempting to say something snarky, I’m really serious. Are you really so deluded that you cannot see what is right before your eyes?

            Good God, man. And you consider yourself to be enlightened.

      • Karolyn

        Because it means more controversy and more money!

      • Carol

        Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, part owner of Rupert Murdochs’ empire.

        • Jana

          This prince owns 7%.

    • hflashman

      THEIR Homeland? Oh jeesh ….

  • JEFF GORDON

    No Americans think Obama is a Muslim – only republicans think that.

    • http://ATT Arline Demien

      Can;t believe anyone wih 1/2 a brain would be supporting this anti-American who lied to the entire country, with the aid of Pelosi, Reid, his V.P., and others who were only seeking a “head” so the Democrat Party could be in office. Since they achieved their goal with an ersatz “head” they’ve been anyhing but American. AND since when is a country with our Constitution, Freedoms, Laws supposed to “knuckle” to a man who is still lying about his birthplace and catering to HIS MUSLIM background.

      When is CONGRESS & our SUPREME CT. getting off their butts and trying this entire group for treason? nO WAY TO HANDLE THIS ANTI-AMERICAN

      • Don

        The Conservative controlled Supreme Court has very recently turned down an appeal from a woman attorney who was fined $20,000 by an Appeals Court for “bringing a frivolous law suit” to try to show that Obama was not born in the U.S.

        During the last election, don’t you think Bill and Hilary Clinton would have jumped at the chance to prove that Obama was not born in the U.S.?

        They knew they could never prove it. Neither can you.

        • Conservative at Birth

          It is up to him to prove it, not the other way around. Nancy Pelosi falsely signed the verification of his birhtplace.

          • Smilee

            The burden of proof always rests with the plaintiff and not the defendant and in all these laws suits about his birth place Obama is the defendant and by Constitutional law he is not required to prove it to anyone. You either ignorant of that fact or have no regard for the law or our Constitution.

        • kate8

          Don, They had to keep their mouths shut if they wanted to live. Or, at least, not have their lives ruined.

          TPTB call the shots, and they put who they want in power. The courts bow to this Power, just like the rest of them.

          Odumbo has been allowed to keep his life hidden. Yet your ilk does not question this. Any American should be able to demand he produce proof of who he is and release his record. No one denies the allegations are true. They just say we don’t have the right to know the truth. That is not America.

          It just goes to prove how liberals put party before country.

        • dan az

          Don
          What makes you think that willie and hilary didnt have a hand in it they to are part of the bildeberg groupies with nafta and the 64 killed misteryously durning there reign of power really man its time that you stop blaiming us for all thats wrong where not democraps.

      • Norm

        Arline Demien
        The only liars are the neocons and you. If you don’t like the pres., vote for somebody else. That’s the way we do it in this country. If we could put up with Bush destroying the economy, surely we can give Obama a shot at fixing it.

        • Paul C

          No attempt to fix the econnmy so far, its all been further distruction. And it was Democrat pollicy that caused the collapse of the economy. The economy was booming and the intrest rates had gone up, as they should, this lead to failures on the loans that people couldn’t afford. Ultimately it lead to the collapes of the economy. An economy that had been growing faster than China’s.

        • EltonJ

          Norm,

          The only way you can fix the economy is to repeal all government programs and cut taxes to ten percent of your income. Also, kick out the Federal Reserve, capture all the people who run it, strip them naked, and parade them through the streets. Have the Dept. of the Treasury issue our money, and tell everyone to store food for 3 years and start a garden. Bring home our troops, fortify our country, and bunker down when the world comes to repossess our land. :)

          After that happens, we can rebuild.

          • kate8

            EltonJ, And throw this vile government out of our lives so we can cast off the shackles they’ve put on us and go about rebuilding. We need them to leave us the heck alone. We need to cast them into the junk pile of history and start over, rebuilding from the foundation of our founders.

            They are a hindrance. They do not want us to prosper. They want us to be slaves. We need to throw them all out.

        • dan az

          Norm
          I can always count on you for a good laugh what really disturbes me is that you believe what your saying! Dont you ever get dissy ?

        • dan az

          norm
          What would you say if there was proof that he is a muslim and it was from his own mouth would it be a lie?

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

          • Smilee

            Totally out of context they left off the rest of the speech that gives the full picture, thus u tube proves nothing, informed and thinking people know that this is a deliberate distortion of the facts and nothing but misinformation, tonight on NBC in an interview with Brian Williams he was asked about this and he said the real facts speak for themselves and that he is not Muslim and is Christian, but we saw the whole interview there and not clips taken out of context for the bigoted to spread.

      • Conservatives United

        When is congress and the supreme court going to do anything. When we the people get rid of the scumbags in congress (both parties) of ALL incumbents and replace them with people that represent the people, not the eletist scumbags we have now.

      • Lewis Munn

        Face it. They NEVER will.

        They are like the leaders of Islaam; they like power, money, and control over everybody else

        They hate having their misdeeds exposed, and hamstring education to prevent being found out.

        And lying is one way, as most people just grumble and go off to make a living. We are too used to the government lying, and taught in school nothing about critical thinking, or even good English, where words have a precise meaning.

        I know of kids who came up through really good educational systems who are finding even graduate school students cannot talk and think intelligently anymore…just focused on fun and future money by our public educational system.

        There is one non-sectarian college left in the USA that has not been subverted, and they are constantly under attack by the government. That is how far we have come down!!

    • Pat

      So, Republicans aren’t American’s?

    • kenny

      Bawaaaahhaaaaaaaaaa, O Jeffie, U so funny.

    • crystal

      Independents, libertarians, conservatives, non-voters, blue-dog democrats, etc. the list goes on and on. I guess these people aren’t Americans either.

    • bluejacket

      No Americans believe Obama has been transparent and honest only progressive/liberal Democrats do.

      • Norm

        bluejacket
        Huh??

      • Paul C

        what? you havent heard hes getting beat up on by the liberals too for not being liberal enough.

    • Conservatives United

      Get your facts straight before you open you mouth.

    • Warrior

      Jeff – he is worse than a muslim. He is a self avowed progressive. Get rid of the creatures ASAP!

  • Angel Wannabe

    Yes I do think Obama’s a Muslim, how else do you explain, the sympathetic systematic support given to Imam, the head of the Mosque project, to go ahead and build the Mosque?__While it may be Constitutionally right to build on this site, it’s insensitive, inappropriate, and down right stab to the heart, to those who lost people on 9/11!

    • Pat

      AMEN!

    • hflashman

      Well…other than saying to you that your comments mirror much of the ignorance, hate, fear, and religious intolerance of many on this thread … you’ve displayed …well….ignorance, fear, hate and religious intolerance.

      Of course, you fit in here. Where else can you find someone being labeled a marxist, a communist, an atheist etc for merely stating the State should be out of religion and not use public property or funds to aid or deny any religious cause or entity?

      Then again, one should ask …even if he is not christian…why does it matter? Did it matter JFK was a Catholic? Or Romney a Mormon? Or Palin attached to a sect which claims withes exist and include snakes in their worship?

      • crystal

        You’re not from the southside of Chicago like I am. There is a different sect of Islam in every corner now. Your problem is your too much in love with the Obama family. Nobody should ever worship politicians. Ever!!!

      • Les

        Since we need to bow to your intellect. Question, was Obama’s real father Muslim??????

        According to the Koran, IF the father is Muslim, the children are Muslim……..

        You don’t get to be unMuslim. You get stoned……

        • bluejacket

          Obama spent most of his youth stoned.

        • eddie47d

          Les. You seem to be the one with the biggest stone in your hand.

          • Warrior

            You are still a clueless troll living off handouts.

        • Bob

          It doesn’t take much to convert.

        • Smilee

          The Constitution defines our law not the Koran, the Bible or any other religious book or belief and there is very little support for the mandates of our Constitution from people on this site. Conservative only support those parts of the Constitution they approve of and that is why they want activist judges on the courts who will change the meaning of the Constitution to meet with their approval and that is the case in this matter.

      • Angel Wannabe

        hflashman, I’m mirroring comments really??, pardon me oh ye Messiah lover one, but I was speaking what I think is true___Your the paid libbie on a conservative site, touting your Liberal spew, expecting to find & turn some un-enlightened fool, onto your crap___Move on, it ain’t happening jackson!!!__

        • Conservatives United

          Great reply!!!!

      • Paul C

        hflashman says:
        ” Where else can you find someone being labeled a marxist, a communist, an atheist etc for merely stating the State should be out of religion and not use public property or funds to aid or deny any religious cause or entity? ”

        and yet public funds are being used to fly the Iman to Middle East to raise funds to build the church. Something that has never been done for any other religion.

        • Conservatives United

          Yea, Where is the “Keep Church and State separate” Lame Stream media on this one. Oh!!! That only applies to Christianity!!! What lame excuses will State(less) Dept find to justify that it is not a Religious issue to fund this Iman to run around the Muslim world to generate funds for a Mosque. Will it be that a mosque is not Religous??? They may be correct, as many of them are diguises for terrorist activities.

          • Ceddy Bear

            Actually, the current administration is guilty of violation of the fainess clause which summarized states that you can’t favor any one religion over others, but no one has thrown that in their face. Why has this administration blocked the erection of the VFW WWI memorial cross in the Mojave Desert, but stands firmly with an Iman (ground zero mosque) who has verified ties to terrorism? What’s going on? I can’t truly say what I believe the President’s religious faith is. But the fact that it is in speculation is his own fault due to his own actions and public statements of what side of the fence he stands on. Just the facts please. Not unfounded, oppininated garbage in foundations without evidence.

          • dan az

            conservatives united
            The only way that allahmombu could not be a muslim is if in his mind he was allah or his own new religion of one!

          • dan az

            Conservatives united

            what do you think about this does this prove anything to you?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

          • Smilee

            Ceddy Bear says:
            August 26, 2010 at 1:59 pm

            One is public land he other is private land, apparently you do not know the difference as different laws apply to each, educate yourself and you them will not ask silly questions like these.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Hflashman__The real issue here, is being American!___You wanna be here,and be an American__ then be American!!!___Live it, eat it and breath it!!!!___No one says you have to walk away from your Heritage, be it American Indian, Spanish, and yes Muslim!__But if You want to be an American , then you’d better embrace what being American is!!!You DON’T come here from another Country, and become an American, and expect to change our ways, add your former laws and belief, and try to MANIPULATE OUR CONSTITUTION, just because your rich enough, to buy your own way!!_______We have a Constitution that for over 200 years, that a host of brilliant men sat down and wrote, and it worked until, the progressives infiltrated and began to change the public education system, the interpetation and the language of the Constitution.
        If you wannbe be an American, you’d better breath it, eat it and sleep___OR GET OUT!!!

        • Smilee

          You sound so so confused, the Constitution is with the Muslims on this one and if you believe in the Constitution then you would accept that. You accuse those that do believe in constitution as manipulating the constitution when in fact it is you that is manipulating the constitution, will you take your own advice and get out???

          • Angel Wannabe

            smellee, look smellee or what eva ya go by,__your not particulaly good at manipulating the conversation, or trying to disprove my opinion, or change the context of what I said or meant. Move a long little doggie and pester someone else!__Thanks for the advice though!

      • kate8

        Yeah, right, Flash. He’s being called a communist/Marxist merely because of his stance on religion and the State.

        You’ve been peddling your liberal idiocy on these threads for quite some time. Obama is called these things for myriad reasons, like everything he says and does. Because his parents, grandparent, mentors, teachers and everyone in his life was communist/Marxist, and he admits it himself.

        You are either short-suited or on the liberal payroll.

    • hflashman

      Ummm…and other than say it’s their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT … care to explain the “systematic sympathetic support’ the admin has given to the mosque project? Jeesh…. you must be taling abut Bloomberg…oh wait, he’s a Republican. Hmmm…Ok…you must be talking about…well, yo must be making things up !

      • ValDM

        Flash, Please just SHUT UP!!!!!! You make me weary with your incresingly stupid rhetoric. I didn’t think it possible for anyone to be as stupid as you are, but I’ve just learned something……..and, unfortunately, you vote. Are you really this blind? Or are you just trying to stir the pot?

        • eddie47d

          The pot was stirred long ago by the right wing insisting that Obama is a Muslim. You’ve been pushing the issue for quit some time now.The more you harp the bigger the issue grows so reap what you sow.

          • Angel Wannabe

            eddie 47d, we are reaping what we sow, more and more people, despise the Left & the Progressives, thnak Christ! :)

          • kate8

            eddie, so what bothers you about him being called Muslim? I thought you libs LOVED Muslims?

            If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck….

            Why claim to be a Christian, but act like a Muslim? VOTES FROM STUPID PEOPLE.

          • Warrior

            If you have an opportunity to watch Glenn Beck, he is unveiling all the evils of this regime. Go Beck, Palin, Malkin, Savage and all that stand for freedom.

          • dan az

            Eddie
            come on think about it for a minute,how many christians have a name Hussein name me one.

          • dan az

            Fast eddie
            look I havent asked you to look at the truth in awhile so do me the favor and listen to what the muslim says with his own mouth!

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

            is he lying to us?

    • Don

      That may be true. But it is legal and protected by the Constitution just as the right to bear arms is protected, even when it is insensitive and probably unsafe to allow people to carry guns to work, to political rallies, and to church.

      • Bob

        In Switzerland people are required to have a gun in every home. They don’t have murders. Could it be they are more civilized than Americans?

      • dan az

        Don
        As proof its not the gun that kills people its people that kill people.
        arizona is a right to carry state and that means at rallies to.when the black vet was carrying his rifle at the rally when obumer was speaking did he shoot any one? crime is down when every one carries concealed because the low lifes dont know who is packing. works every time!

    • Norm

      Ms wannabe

      Source: Thomas Jefferson, “The Virginia Legislature, Review and Reform of the Law,” in Autobiography

      “Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting “Jesus Christ,” so that it would read “A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;” the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.

    • Conservatives United

      I agree!! Actions speak louder than words, and his actions show that he is a Muslim or at least his allegance his to his Muslim Buddies, NOT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. What about the State Deparment that is funding this Radical Muslim to spout off over in all the Muslim countries.

    • Lewis Munn

      I think building the complex there is legal, but very poor idea. It will be kept as thorn in the flesh of our country, those who are very patriotic, and I can see where some radicals may well do something dastardly in return. And the feud is off and running, and the government gets to restrict our liberties even more than before, and expand the scope of Islammic activities.

      I think there is method in the madness!!

      • kate8

        Lewis, They intend for it to be a thorn in the flesh of our country.

        They are using our own system against us, and laughing at us all the way.

        What about the Christian church (Orthodox?) that was destroyed, but is not being allowed to rebuild?

  • Doc Sarvis

    I think this is an “end-around” attack on President Obama. The real problem people have with him is that he is black. So sad.

    • Angel Wannabe

      DS, Opinions are like azzholes, we all got one!

      • Angel Wannabe

        DS, keep the libbie rhetoric alive, if ya can’t dazzle the sheep with brilliance, you can always baffle them with racism Bull Sh*t!

        • Doc Sarvis

          NOT very angelic language there.

          • Angel Wannabe

            DS, the name implies, I’d to be an Angel, it doesn’t mean I am one!

          • Angel Wannabe

            ds,
            Like to be an angel

          • Doc Sarvis

            Seems like you’ve got some work to do toward that goal.

          • Angel Wannabe

            DS, yeah well honey, carry your own cross, before ya start trying to help me with mine!?

          • Doc Sarvis

            You called me “honey”; that’s a good start.

        • Brad,

          Hey Doc,

          No one so far has said anything about Obummers skin color, except you, why is that? You have to pull the race card just to prove your point, you are pathetic.

          • bluejacket

            Bingo!

      • Norm

        Angel Wannabe
        And some like yours really stink.

        • Norm

          In response to:
          Opinions are like azzholes, we all got one!

        • Brad,

          Norm,

          I don’t know your azzhole, but I believe it stinks to hi heaven also!!!

        • Angel Wannabe

          Norm, Ok buddy, did ya ever stop to think, why the Conservatives are on this site, bitching about you Liberals wanting to control everything?__so idiots like you still have the RIGHT, to disagree, with me!__now shove it!_nuff said!

          • Norm

            Angel
            Ah your so sweet.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Doc Sarvis…. He is as much white as he is black. And he was raised in a Muslim home. When he speaks people draw their own conclusions. He says in his book ‘he will stand with the Muslims’. There are racists people in America, but they are in all parties…

      • artinthewild

        I am sick and tired of the word “racist” the only people who yell racist are the real racist. You know, I knew that when Obama peeled the United States flag off the tail of his airplane…I knew no good would come of it. I am not a Republican, nor Democrat. I am an Independent. I wasn’t crazy over Geo Bush, I understand that it was the Clinton years that started this down hill slide with his give everyone a chance for a home even if they can’t afford it…Barney Frank helped there too (what’s he doing still in there?) and..I suggest to you – all of you – that there is something definetly wrong when the man continues to hide his college papers and his real birth certificate….

        • hflashman

          Wow…you really don’t know what caused this economic and housing crisis …

          • Paul C

            Yeah, the booming economy, which resulted in increased intrest rates which resulted in higer rates on the home loans, which lead to defaults. All thanks to the democratic policy of loans to those who wouldn’t have qualified otherwise

        • Don

          When Clinton left office, the U.S. had a budget surplus. After 8 years of Bush we were deep in the whole. Obama’s big mistake was to keep a lot of old Bush types around like Geithner.

          • Norm

            Don
            Well at least Bush gave Buffet and Gates a huge tax cut (that they didn’t want) and borrowed the cash to do it.

          • ValDM

            Don,
            We’ve all heard about Clinton’s “budget surplus”. However, it was not a true surplus. We were still running a Huge deficit; this “surplus” everyone wants to brag about was just money in the budget that wasn’t spent. THAT’S your surplus!

        • Lewis Munn

          These days money will buy lots of things.

          Money keeps all Obama’s papers hidden, so we will not know. My college records are open; I am not ashamed, tho I could have done better in some courses too.

          One does have to wonder why hiding his past, and most of his life, is so important. But maybe it is to distract people from more critical investigation and publicizing of his present. And what that shows our probable future will be.

          And our probable future will be. Shades of Orwell’s “1984″; wonder if any liberals read it?!

          Our one proven illegal President, Chester Arthur, hid his stuff too. And only recently has the proof surfaced. He also as a very bad President. Time will tell, if there is anyone left listening.

      • hflashman

        Raised in a Muslim home? His grandparents were Muslims? Where do you guys get this stuff???????

      • Bob

        Doc Sarvis is black…far out

    • Joe

      Just becasue the President is black, it doesn’t mean that if you disagree with him or think he is Muslim means you are a racist. If he was white you wouldn’t. Please stop your hipocracy and double standard. So if he was Spanish you call me a racist too. You are full of B.S. You must live in a tiny bubble.

    • Conservative at Birth

      I would rather see Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell as President. They share my political and ecomomic thoughts. Obama is a Marxist, no matter what his race or nationality is. That is why I don’t agree whith what he has done and intends to do.

      • Conservative at Birth

        Doc, if you don’t know who they are, maybe you should enlighten yourself. They are black, by the way, and American.

      • Don

        If Obama is a Marxist, why did he continue Bush’s policies of bailing out the banks? Or, maybe you think Bush is a Marxist!

        • Conservative at Birth

          And your point is? G.W. Bush, although slightly more conservative than his father is a progressive. Just not as progressive as Obama. Yes the Bank, G.M., and Chrysler bail outs were a mistake. It was an attempt to soften the bottom landing that has not yet occured, but eventually will. Read what Calvin Cooledge did during the 1920 Crash, which was actually worse than 1929, and you will see what should have been done in 2008,2009,2010. We have traveled this road before and it won’t be pretty. Things will get worse until The totalitarian socialists are run out of Washington D.C. John McCain is one of them. He has been slowly moving towards true conservative positions. Hopefully it is not just to get re-elected. Evidently you have not studied history very well, or choose to ignore the economic facts. We cannot borrow and spend ourselves to prosperity. Did you know that of what is called the Bush defecits 35% of his total deficits for 8 years occured in the last two budgets. Where do the budgets come from? CONGRESS, which was controlled by Democrats during that time frame.

      • Norm

        Conservative at Birth
        Walter Williams is a pompous ass, and a Rush Limbaugh puppet.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Yeah but Normy__Limbaughs laughing all the way to the bank?

          • Don

            Which shows you don’t need an education to get ahead. Limbaugh flunked out of college in case you were not aware of this.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Don, sure he did, Rush’ll tell ya that!___College education??___a family of ours, was hired at around 18, as a porter in a local metal fabrication plant. 25 years later, he became superintentdent, and part owner of the company, with and eigth grade education___NO COLLEGE!___Just ballz!

          • Norm

            Angel Wannabe
            Rush is quite entertaining. Hell look at what they pay sports standouts.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Normy, Limbaughs got more going for him in his little finger, than you do in your WHOLE LIBERAL BODY!

          • Karolyn

            Right, because he performs very well for the sheep who listen to him.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Hey K, look hon, your Liberal touts don’t work here, there is no one hanging on the fence for you libs to scoop up here___you’ve offered nothing any of us can learn from, your wasting your time and the rest of the folks on personal Liberty. so go do some homework(something other than your regular liberal podunk which is tax, spend, and play God) come back then and we’ll all have a nice lil’ chat,__

          • Angel Wannabe

            K__ (copied and pasted) Right, because he (Rush) performs very well for the sheep who listen to him

            Do I detect a bit of class envy there???Hmm?___You could go out and spend years and years of your life to do the same thing, perhaps taste the same fortune!_All ya gotta do is try!__Any of this sinkin’in?__BTW_On the Liberal, which I don’t travel often, the same can be said for one of your Prince of Liberalness, Al Gore, he created a crisis and made millions off the lie of Global Warming___and you libs fell for it!___are you ROFLMAO at him too?

        • Conservative at Birth

          Name calling and inuendo is all a true leftist really has in their quiver.

          • Angel Wannabe

            CAB, boy ain’t that the truth!

          • Norm

            Conservative at Birth
            I guess you haven’t watchrd Fux lately. They invented spin, hate, and name calling and have them nearly perfected.

          • eddie47d

            Angel. It’s the Republicans who pushed the term Messiah on the public to stir the pot. (you used it earlier). What’s this about liberals getting paid to be on this site? Better send Norm his check.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Huh, musta struck a cord__hmmm?__thanks for the heads though up eddie, but I didn’t hire him!

          • Karolyn

            Speak for yourself.

    • kenny

      It never fails, NO MATTER what the subject is, someone always throws the race card down. I don’t know how everyone else feels, and really don’t care, but speaking for myself, I could care less what color 0-bla-bla is. The pure and simple truth is, I do not like what he stands for and do not like what he and the rest of his crooked friends are doing to MY country. But we must not confuse libs with the facts or they will resort to name calling. Remember November, everyone needs to vote, and let’s flush the toilet we call Washington DC.

    • crystal

      This has nothing to do with Obama being Black. Majority of white people put him in office in the first place because there aren’t enough black people in this country to put anyone in office. We only make up 13% of the U.S. population and this includes our children. The race card is being over-played and when it get’s really serious and something is racial (for real), nobody’s going to listen or act. Ever hear of the “Boy Who Cried Wolf.”

      Obama has gone to muslim nations and stated we are no longer a Christian society. He did this early on in his presidency. Look it up. Who does that kind of thing? Think about it!

    • Conservatives United

      Standard procedure!!!! When you have no facts. PLAY THE RACE CARD to divert attention, that you have nothing of substance to say. I studied THE ILLEGAL IN THE WHITE HOUSE long before the elcection of 2008, and found that he was dangerous. I do not support anything he is for, because I do not believe in marxisims and socilisim. As a student of history for more than 50 years, I immediately saw back before the 2008 election, the similarities to him and Hitler, before WWII.

      • Angel Wannabe

        CONSERVATIVES UNITED___The Libbies remind me of of Blood Hounds, the Master throws them the scent, and for the promise of meat, they troll the these threads, in Sal Alynski type fashion, sniffing all the Conservative, hoping to pick up a few more, liberal sheeples. When they return home with they’re empty gain, and the time clock is punched,_ the master pats them on the head & throws them a bone. I wonder if we can pay them to just stay in the dog house?

    • kate8

      Doc, Yeah. If he wasn’t black we’d all love him.

      If Bush had been black, you’d all love him? Would you support Alan Keyes? Or Michael Steele?

      Moron.

  • J.M.R.

    everything this lying moron says and does shows he anti-american so that only leaves him being a muslim, the mosque- what a better way to have a trojan horse. since we can’t infringe on some ones religion, great way to hide weapons, while they walk among us to see whats the best way to take us down.

    • Don

      Any FBI agent can pretend to be a convert to Islam,join a Mosque and find out if they are stashing weapons.

      • J.M.R.

        but that won’t happen under this a&& hole

        • eddie47d

          So little respect with all this name calling.Remember in 2012 when a Republican gets in. Will you sit back and accept the other sides barrage of insults. It will happen, for you are setting the stage right now.

          • Angel Wannabe

            eddie47d, No matter WHO’S IN OFFICE YOU LIBERALS’LL FIND SOMETHING about a Conservative you don’t like. He could be Jesus and you’d even sell his soul to the devil, just to be right!__be gone!

          • kate8

            eddie, it would be sweet if we got a black conservative President. You’d all have to love him, or you’d be racist!

            I get all tingly just thinking about it.

  • Devasahayam

    Given that 0bama actually accepted a 15-kg brass Hanuman idol and installed it in a shrine in the White House, and actually asked a priestess to explain to him about Hindism (the priestess was warned recently “not to teach rubbish”–which would have annulled her effectively–by a Toda convert from Hinduism to Christianity), his de-facto religion can be defined best as a mixture of “60% self-worship and 40% deendar-basava-siddiqui” (deendar-basava-siddiqui is itself an amalgam, formed during 20th-century, of Ahmadi sect of Islam and Lingayat of Hinduism).

    As for the media’s comment that 0bama is “obviously Christian”, he is only as Christian as Lal Krishnachand Advani (erstwhile leader of India’s BJP) or Arun Shourie (pro-RSS Indian journalist)–neither of whom even makes this claim namesake-wise!

    J.M.R, you are on the nail–0bama is anti-American (his mentorship by Bill Ayers and Mark Rudd being proof enough)!

  • J.Michael

    First- there already is a mosque closer to Ground Zero than this one. Second- I guess the Muslims are getting the treatment Irish and Italian Catholics got when they came here. Third-Muslims died on 9/11 that were not on the planes but who worked in the towers. Forth-these terrorist Muslims kill other Muslims,women & children included. Fifth-Muslims have been here for a while, “Nation of Islam” and Louis Farrakkan.

    • Don

      Right on! Folks need to realize that we are on the side of Muslims fighting other Muslims in Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan. Suni Muslims and Shiite Muslims have been fighting each other for centuries.

      Those attacking Muslims willy-nilly undermine our war efforts in the Mid=East.

  • Nancy

    I do not believe Obama is a Christian, Muslim or any other religion. He is simply an ultra narcissist who sees himself as infallable with exclusive right to rule over the entire universe.

    He is a pathetic human being.

    • Bob

      Obama is a puppet in our commie gov’t.

      • Conservatives United

        George Soros anyone!!!

  • mel

    The pied piper is just out to destroy this country as much as he can and seems the American people are letting him. Wonder when we will start seeing Used camel lots on our streets instead of used cars?
    AMERICA has to get this man and his cronies out of control. Our congress/supreme court are as much at fault as he is, There should be an investigation on all of these “people” trying to ruin this country.
    FROM THE INSIDE OUT.

    • Don

      Except for the Court, they were all elected by the American People. Obama ran on a platform to change the Health Care System and the voted him in. Wasn’t anyone listening to what he said at the time?

      Those on the Left are mad at him because he continued so many of Bush’s policies and with many of the same people,e.g. Geithner.

      • Bob

        McCain would have been just as bad. Read “Guilt By Association by Jeff Gates.

        • Conservatives United

          All of them in both parties need to be removed. These ELETIST SCUMBAGS, only believe in themselves, and work only for themselves, to perpuate them getting re-elected for life. It has become they against us.

      • Lewis Munn

        Don,

        I listened to him. I found him unbelievable, and since his major opponent was also not believable, I voted for 3rd party candidates. Some of which had very good ideas on how to run America for the benefit of all the citizens.

        But everybody was so hyped and polarized, and the news did not cover those whose ideas were good in 3rd parties, we got what we have, and the good government candidates shafted!

  • Denis Flaherty

    We can all sit here and fire “cheap shots” at each other(many of which I agree with)but until we become politically active and get these SOBs outa office and into the dumpster, we will have no America. Start a campaign against, instead of sittin’ on your hands. Get “Barney Fife” thrown outa office…we can’t wait 2 years.

    • Lewis Munn

      There are many good sites where you can write or FAX your congressmen and women.

      Look around, and find a site, and fill in the boxes with your opinions. They seem to be more effective than grumbling and arguing here.

      And most are free.

      • Andy Howey

        The problem with writing to our “elected” officials is if one writes to them about something that isn’t part of their agenda, it seems that they will at best misrepresent and twist what you said when they reply. That’s assuming that they bother to reply. As has been noted several times in this overall thread, they don’t feel that they work for us any longer. They only represent their own interests and those of their pet projects. That’s been my experience with my particular Representative and senators from California.

  • john

    Barrack Hussein Obama..he has a Muslim name..and claims to be a Christian..he is most likely neither..he certainly is not Christian.He is a snake..he is trying to be all things and therefore is nothing..he is an empty suit and will soon become a lame duck president to go with his other title of lame president.He who stands for nothing falls for eveything and this seems to be this administrations legacy.As for the mosque near ground zero…for all those who claim biased and religious intolerance they are way off the mark…first ,why is the Greek Orthodox church that was destroyed in the attack having such a hard time from the Bloomberg adm. in getting permits to rebuild and yet this mosque has no trouble at all?If this was a synogoue or a Christian church..they would have had the decency of not wanting to offend and would have looked for another site..but this imam seems bent on thumbing his nose at those who are against this mosque.Where is the tolerance in Muslim nations towards Christians and Jews..how many churches and synagogs are in Saudi Arabia? This is a victory mosque for the extremists and these politicians who pander to Islam are truly ignorant of this religion.It is only a religion of peace when it is in the minority..they bide their time.It’s time we oust the godless and faithless politicians who ignore their constitituents from office.We need to reclaim this nation and place it under God..not the god of islam but the God of Christians and Jews.God the Father…not Allah the slavemaster…the very word Islam means submission..I for one will not submit.

    • Don

      There is a whole group of people who lost relatives in the World Trade Center, who have come out in favor of allowing the Mosque to be built.

      They believe in the freedom of religion guaranteed by our Constitution.
      You apparently do not.

      • Conservative at Birth

        I doubt that you know what the framers of the Constitution intended with the 1st Ammendmant, or that they considered Cults as Religions.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Don, The Constitution has not changed, but the interpetation and the mindset of the modern day people have___just because the mindset has changed, does not make it right or that we have to re-interpet the constitution!___I say if your an American, that act it, belive it and breath!___The Constitution as a whole is only intended for a morally religeous people. Anyone___ care to add, which past president said this, I don’t remember and I’m off and on today!

    • Carol

      Thank you. You are right on the mark.

  • Raggs

    Is there any surprize people think he is a muslim?
    After all he has proven behond a doubt he is NOT a christian.

    Christians do not believe there is more than one path to heaven.
    Christians do not believe is Social justice / collective salvation.

    obama is trying to butter his bread on both sides by lying that he is a christian and at the same time he is in full support of the muslims.

    • Don

      If you think Christians do not believe in “Social Justice”, I suggest you read the New Testament.

      • Dale on left coast

        Social Justice is not in my New Testament KJV . . . Jesus talked about giving YOUR personal assets to help the poor . . . . Social Justice is about YOU giving MY assets to help the poor, Pure Marxism!!!

        • Lewis Munn

          **Clap Clap** Very well said!!

      • ValDM

        Don,
        Of course we believe in helping those who aren’t as blessed as we are. We are commanded to do so. But, “social justice”? Not really.
        The Bible instructs us to take care of the widows and orphans. I also say that if a widow is young enough to remarry, she should, so as not to become a burden. Lastly, it says that if a man will not work, he shall not eat. Sound like the kind of social justice that’s been inflicted on us for the last 50 years?

      • Ceddy Bear

        It also says in the New Testament if a man does not work he does not eat

    • kate8

      Raggs, the elites are having a great time, seeing how they can place a pig before the people, tell them it’s a goat, and the people chant “goat, goat, goat!” as they are looking at a pig.

      Of course, sensible people say, we want neither goat nor pig. But that’s another story.

      We are so easily hypnotized by media and rhetoric.

  • bluejacket

    I don’t really care if he is a Muslim or a Christian. But it is getting more obvious that whatever he tells us, the opposite is what is true. (OMG, did I just call him a liar? My bad)

    • Norm

      bluejacket
      How about listing some of Obama’s great lies.
      I’ll grant you that everything hasn’t gone the way you, me, and Obama hoped they would. When you inherit a disaster like he did, the cure isn’t easy.
      When you lists the “lies”, I’ll list some of the lies told about him by the right wing Nazis.

      • Bob

        Why isn’t it Norm?

      • Conservatives United

        Norm, Is you Savior not saving you?? Are you having doubts about the anointed one??

      • Conservative at Birth

        Everything is going exactly how he intednded it to. Everything he has done parallels the 1930′s which ended with World War II. They are very deliberate in their destruction of the economy, just as Hoover (Was a Democrat before he became a Republican) and Roosevelt did to make everyone dependant on the GOVERNMENT.

        • Conservatives United

          I have been a student of history for 50 years, and back in 2007, I saw the similarities of the ILLEGAL IN THE WHITE HOUSE and Hitler and Nazi Germany before WWII. History has a way of repeating itself.

          • TIMedWork

            In my personal encounters, many, many people with whom I would speak, prior to the elections of 2008, had private thoughts regarding, what were obvious to them, the Obama/Hitler parallels. Each would remain silent on the matter for fear of being harshly criticized for being honest and open about their feelings, being labeled as “rascist”.
            The character in the movie Forest Gump sent us a message that, though mentally challenged, success came to one who maintained the virtues of integrity and valor and who listened to the words of his mother, ” x is as x does”. Jesus taught similarly that the species of tree which was being observed might best be identified by determining what fruit it bore. In both admonitions, “seeing is believing”. If one is fool enough to deny the obvious, then a fool’s fate would logically follow. By his own admission as a matter of fact, the Obama’s do not celebrate Christmas. From news reports, at the President’s request, no religiously themed articles were placed on a tree erected at the White House, ostensibly to honor an occasion of religious origins. There are many instances that one with opened eyes might observe; and unless one were gifted with a keen ability to see that which wasn’t readily apparent, one might declare his actions of Christian avoidance to be genuine Christian fervor.

      • Paul C

        First off, Nazi’s were socialists, thats what Nazi means, the Natiional Socialist Party.
        Shall we look at his claims about the great impact that the “Stimulus Package” saved and created jobs, where the greatist growth in jobs is in Government.
        How about his recent claim that 70 to 75% of the gulf oil spill just dissapeared. Wow, Democrats belive in magic.
        How everything he says will cost x number of dollars and winds up costing 2x or more
        The list can go on forever

        • Conservatives United

          Liberal DeamonCraps believe in Utopia, but it only really happens in the Distorted Little Brains.

          • TIMedWork

            Conservative,
            Know thy enemies: Take the time to go to TIME and read Joe Klein’s article regarding his amazement that so any Democrats have grown disillusioned with their godhead. When you have finished (though it might be a little nauseating, true) you will better understand the liberal mindset and, if your reaction is akin to mine, be jealous of Mr. Klein’s eyewear. I, too, want a pair of glasses that allow me to see the world in such a light.
            In his listing of adulations of Barak, he did fail to mention (intentionally?) three of many other incredible “firsts”:
            First US President to bow to foreign heads-of-state.
            First person to ever receive a Nobel Prize for thing he has not done.
            First president to make inquiries into his past, without prior written warning to him and permission from him, illegal. It was his very first official act as president according to the records at the Library of Congress, signed within hours of becoming president. Apparently he has the courage to have all of his praiseworthy notoriety be reliant entirely on what he is doing now, not on what he has done; except of course, for the Nobel. But then he did show true character and deny that he deserved it, the prize money going to charity: Commendable.
            I find these three “firsts” to be exceedingly noteworthy as they clearly identify, by those that admire them, the other customers of Joe’s optometrist.
            Even as the President has had the brilliance of such good counsel with regards to populating his cabinet,
            “Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.”
            Sun-tzu, (attributed)

          • eddie47d

            Paul C.;Nazism was about world conquest and a pure race. Hitler built “monuments” to himself but offered little socialism to the German people. So that term is a misnomer. Hitler wanted a bigger and bigger military:The same thing that Conservatives in America desire. Now that is a comparison that You can live with. Not this Obama=(nazi) socialism crap!

          • JeffH

            fast eddie, you really should brush up on your history. You make it sound so simple, but the you are sim… yourself!

        • JeffH

          Paul, as a matter of record, there was a well-documented, thriving relationship between the Arab/Muslim world and Nazi Germany, with perhaps the most significant figure linking Hitler to the Middle East being none other than the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin el-Husseini. After World War I, the Great Powers of Europe jockeyed for influence in the Middle East’s oil fields and trade routes, with France and Britain holding mandates throughout most of the region. In the 1930s, the fascist regimes that arose in Italy and Germany sought greater stakes in the area, and began courting Arab leaders to revolt against their British and French custodians. Among their many willing accomplices was Jerusalem Mufti Haj Amin el-Husseini, who fled Palestine after agitating against the British during the Arab Revolt of 1936-39. He found refuge in Iraq.
          The Führer’s Mufti topped the British most wanted list after helping pull the strings behind the Iraqi coup of 1941. The revolt in Baghdad was orchestrated by Hitler as part of a strategy to squeeze the region between the pincers of Rommel’s troops in North Africa, German forces in the Caucuses and pro-Nazi forces in Iraq. However, in June 1941 British troops put down the rebellion and the Mufti escaped via Tehran to Italy and eventually to Berlin.
          To show gratitude towards his hosts, in 1943 the Mufti travelled several times to Bosnia, where on orders of the SS he recruited the notorious “Hanjar troopers,” a special Bosnian Waffen SS company which slaugh-tered 90% of Bosnia’s Jews and burned countless Serbian churches and villages. These Bosnian Muslim recruits rapidly found favor with SS chief Heinrich Himmler, who established a special Mullah Military school in Dresden.
          The only condition the Mufti set for his help was that after Hitler won the war, the entire Jewish population in Palestine should be liquidated. After the war, Husseini fled to Switzerland and from there escaped via France to Cairo, were he was warmly received. The Mufti used funds received earlier from the Hilter regime to finance the Nazi-inspired Arab Liberation Army that terrorized Jews in Palestine.
          The Arab Embrace of Nazism: Husseini represents the prevalent pro-Nazi posture among the Arab/Muslim world before, during and even after the Holocaust. The Nazi-Arab connection existed even when Adolf Hitler first seized power in Germany in 1933.

          http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/antiholo/arabnazi.html

      • JeffH
        • JeffH
          • kate8

            JeffH, As usual, good job on all counts.

            Funny how the connection between the Nazis and Islam is not ever taught. One would think we are being manipulated…

          • JeffH

            kate8, some people just refuse to accept the facts.

  • Marilyn

    Muslims follow the Quran. They build Mosques for hommage to Allah, Muhammed…and to “announce” that the Muslims have made a conqust on the land where Muslims have destroyed life. Muslims who come to America and convert to Christianity and become U.S. Citizens do not enter Mosques. They have no further use for the Quran. These Muslims believe in Human Rights. There is a big difference in real American Muslims and Muslims.
    So, my question is why would law abiding Muslims who have become American Citizens want to build Mosques when they have no use for them? They no longer follow the Quran. I personally do not believe there is a Muslim “religion.” Muslims do not believe in Freedom of Religion. Muslim laws, the Quran, is the only thing they believe in. “The Muslim deserves death for doing any of the following: …..(7) denying that Allah intended the Prophet’s message…to be the religion followed by the entire world.” unquote. from http://www.americanthinker.com.

    To get to the question at hand, Is Obama a Muslim? He professes to be Christian. He can do that to hide behind Christianity and still carry out his Muslim beliefs. National Day of Prayer was ignored and thousands of Muslims were allowed to squat and pray on Government property. Why? Christians were outraged but did nothing about this. Obama’s good friend, Rev. Wright, is certainly not a good Christian if a Christian at all. His “God Damn America” outburt is not Christian. If you will look at the list of Congressmen and Senators who believe in the Muslim dogma, you will be surprised just how many are aiming for Socialism or worse to bring about Big Government and Muslim theory. Sharea Law has been “mentioned.” Has anyone bothered to find out what that law entails? I have. Once again, go to http://www.americanthinker.com and read “Top Ten Reasons why Sharea Law is Bad for All Societies.” There are more sites to learn about Muslim laws and Sharea Law and how it can affect the American society.
    The “Pilgrims” who landed on Plymouth Rock were no better than Muslims. They had witch burnings, people hung and disgraced in open areas for all people to watch and learn that they should follow their way of thinking and obey the laws or this is what will happen to you. Slavery- Blacks and Palatines and much more disasterous events are also part of American History. I think we have come a long way since these atrosities and we do not want to regress but progress beyound such inhumane treatment of people.

    I am among the percentage that believes Obama is sympathetic toward Muslims and the Quarn. He has displayed enough actions and words to confirm my belief. Obama is trying to please and dis-please at the same time. It just is not going to work out and Obama needs to remove himself from the American Presidency. Along with him should go Pelosi, Holder, Reid, and Biden who have called the American public: “non-Americans.” “non-Christians.” Why? Because we do not agree with them and demand Human Rights and Government for the People and by the people. That does not fit in with Muslim agenda.

    • Brad,

      Here here, great post!!!

    • Don

      He was in Kenya, not India and he wan’t there for 20 years. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

    • http://Netscape Evelyn

      Replying to your post. Reference to 7)can’t lie. Reference taqiyya (sp?) “refers to the practice of precautionary dissimulation whereby believers may CONCEAL their faith when under threat, persecution or compulsion”. This is from Wikipedia. I believe that he can – is allowed to – lie without repercussions from his leader.

      • eddie47d

        Marilyn; A good message but a few distortions. Muslims do have conquests but so do Christians. Christians also build Churches to honor Their God and Muslims build Mosques. Sharia Law is mostly evil and should be discouraged in our country. Historically speaking:When Spain conquered Mexico they tore down temples and rebuilt Churches in the same spot.

      • JeffH

        Evelyn, that is correct. Obama is allowed to decieve others about his Muslim faith. I’ve posted my opinion and more specific info further below.

    • Lewis Munn

      We can study the effects of Sharia Law in the Islaamic cities in Canada, tho they are seldom mentioned.

      We can study the effects of Sharia Law in Dearborne, Michigan, where folks are chased out of town for being Christians.

      Just places to look and study the effects of Islaam on socialist, and mixed-economy nations.

      I do not know of anybody who has tried it and survived!

  • diane

    HE SAID HE WAS IN HIS BOOK DREAMS OF MY FATHER….WE NEED TO GET HIM OUT ASAP BEFORE HE FINISHES RUINING OUR ONCE GREAT COUNTRY!

    • James

      Diane, I agree but the only way to remove a sitting president is via the Impachment process in Art. II, Sec. 4. This is what the Central District Court in California held in the case, there, that challenged Obama’s eligibility to be a president for his lack of U.S. citizenship.

      • Conservatives United

        You can’t impeach someone, who not legally ocupying the office of president.

        • James

          The District Court in California said otherwise. They assume that a sitting president is there lawfully unless through the impeachment process it is proven that he falsified his candidacy credentials.

  • Jason

    “Is Barack Hussein Obama a Muslim? No.” “Obama’s not Muslim.” Did these quotes come from the White House Press Secretary? Did it come from the head of the Democratic National Committee? Did it come from George Soros? No. It came from Ben Shapiro in his article for the obviously right-leaning website CNSNews.com.

    So if the right-leaning journalists do not believe it, then why should their followers? There is no reason why they should. Just because Obama’s father was Muslim does not make him a Muslim. And, if he were, who should really care? In the following of WWJD, Jesus would not care. He would show you how Christianity is the better way (the faith that I personally follow) but he would not ravage you in the newspapers day in and day out [for being something you're not]. Any true Christian and any true American would not be making such a be making such a big deal out of it.

    “Is Barack Hussein Obama a Muslim? No.” This was out of the mouth of a would-be detractor. I could not have said it better myself.

    • Raggs

      He is a Deceiver….

      And that is why it MATTER’S… If you “consider” yourself to be of christian faith than why should you even mock Christ by saying it doesn’t matter?… I figure you to be just another loon…

      • Jason

        Deceiver, maybe… Muslim, no… And I’m not mocking Christ by saying it doesn’t matter, I’m upholding the Constitution’s First Amendment.

        Loon for replying to you, yes… because it’s all wasted breath (or type strokes, rather).

      • Norm

        Raggs
        Everyone isn’t a right wing extremist or Christian extremist like you. Thanks to a gentle God.

      • eddie47d

        Raggs; Because Jesus would not have mocked another human of any race or creed. You on the other hand totally agree that Obama is a Muslim when no such thing has been proven. Then you sir are not a Christian for saying something that is not true(or proven). Do not bear false witness against your neighbor.

    • James

      Jason, Obama was raised as a muslim. His later association with Mr. Wright’s church doesn’t mean he has changed his religion. What was taught there could hardly be viewed as Christianity.
      For example, Major Nidal Malik Hasan, trained in our military as an Army Psychiatrist (6 years of army-paid medical training in Washington, D.C.). At Ft. Hood, he was then scheduled to be sent to Afghanistan, for duty there. But no doubt after great thought, he entered a room there that was packed with fellow soldiers, and after shouting “Allahu Akbar” (God is Great) opened fire. He shot 43 people, killing 13, he obviously intended to sacrifice his own life for the religion he believed in. He was born in American, to Palestinian parents, who raised him as a muslim.
      His victims were: Francheska Velez (21) pregnant and preparing to return hom; Capt. John Gaffney (56); Pfc, Aaron Thomas Nemelka (19); Pfc. Michael Pearson (21); Spc. Jason Dean Hunt (22); Michael Grant Cahill (62), civilian employee (physician asst.); Spc. frederick Greene (29); Staff Sgt. Justin M. DeCrow (32); Sgt. Amy Krueger (29); Pfc. Kham Xiong (23); Juanita Warman (55); Maj. L. Eduardo Caraveo (52); and Russel Seager (?), psychiatrist.
      What is clear here, that faced with Afghanistan service against his fellow muslims, was more than he could live with.

    • kate8

      Jason, Just because a “right-leaning” journalist stated an opinion, we are obliged to agree with him? Is there someone out there who is all-knowing enough that we can blindly trust his judgement?

      Well, that certainly explains you lefties.

      Personally, I form my own conclusions based on what I see for myself.
      I believe Obama is probably Muslim. At the very least, he is no Christian. He is, from his actions, decidedly anti-Christian.

  • James

    President Obama was raised as a muslim for the first 20 years of his life, in India. His mother and her second husband took him there. It is thus logical for him to think and act like he does.
    As to Christmas, there is no instruction in the Bible to celebrate Christ’s birthday, nor is there any evidence that His Apostles ever did, nor did Christians for nearly three centuries thereafter. In its beginning, the December 25th holiday was the celebration of the return of the sun, just after the Winter Solstice (the shortest day). Sometime in the third century AD, the Roman church decided to compete with that and held a special Christian Mass on that day, which is where “Christmas” originated from, and from the shepherd and manger trappings that were added, it came to be thought of as celebrating Christ’s birthday. However, his exact birthdate isn’t known, we know that the sheep were still at pasture, so at that latitude it couldn’t have been any later than October, when the sheep were put in sheepfolds for the winter. Adam Rutherford’s Bible Chronology calculates His birthdate as September 23, 2 BC.
    In any event, the Winter Solstice holiday is not a Christian holiday and never was, it was celebrated by all pagan nations. The Roman Church was simply tring to win them over to Christ.

    • Jason

      James, you are absolutely correct. The Roman’s took Pagan holidays and replaced them with Christian holidays. But honestly, James, Obama could read these people the Bible verbatim, cover to cover, and it would not matter on iota.

      He’s a one-term President. It won’t because these people beat him up on his policies (which really deserve the attention), but it will be because they keep throwing out crap like this. Black (which he could not have chosen for himself) + “Funny Name” (which he did not choose himself) = “He must be a Muslim”.

      You don’t see Bobby Jindal having to deal with this crap. He changed his name from Piyush to Bobby so it can be more “American” (and betrayed his heritage). Oh, but wait, he’s a Republican so that’s OK.

      • Dale on left coast

        Jason . . . and you don’t see Bobby hiding his school records, passport records, birth certificate and using multiple SIN numbers.
        Reason . . . Bobby is an honest conservative . . . .

        Is the Bamster a muzzzzlim??? Didn’t he say “my muzzzzlim faith” when interviewed on TV??? Slip of the tongue . . . not likely, probably one of the few times he was actually telling the truth.
        There is no question about his religious loyalties . . . . the only thing still up for debate is whether he his a Kenyan Muzzzzlim.

      • James

        Right, In one place (Acts 12:4) “Easter” replaced the Passover.

    • Conservative at Birth

      I have read that it was in Feb. or March 13BC

      • James

        Conservative AB, I knew Adam Rutherford personally, and his Bible Chronology (555 pages) covered all the bases, which is why I favor his date for Christ’s birth. He also wrote a 5-book series on the Great Pyramid of Giza.

        • Paul C

          Did he miss that Herod that ordered the slauter was dead by 2 BC?

          • James

            Paul C, Herod the Great was dead by then, but his grandson King Herod Agrippa I died in A.D. 44.

        • Conservative at Birth

          My point is: Does it really matter when he was born? There is no accurate historical text that really makes a difference. Either you have faith or you don’t.

          • eddie47d

            What a gemstone! Ask those same questions about Obama? (above).Do you conservative have faith in America or not?

          • James

            Conservative at Birth, No, it doesn’t matter, that’s why it was never declared a holiday, and why it was never celebrated as such.

  • Don

    He want to Kenya, not India and not for 20 years. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

    • Conservative at Birth

      I believe the writer meant Indoneasia. So what do you say now. Oh, it wasn’t 20 years. At least they got the idea right.

  • http://gmail i41

    Don, I don’t know what Bible or what “preacher” you are listening to but my New Testament doen’t sound like Social Justice. We know “Rev, Sharpton” and “Rev.Jackson” with their bro “Rev. Wright” get outy in the weeds all the time. I see normie and flashmonkey have been playing with their Sotamoron and Gagin Kagin dolls again.

    • Don

      See LUKE 16:19-25.

      A fair reading of this, indicates the Rich have some responsibility to care for the less fortunate.

      Of course this may be a semantic problem: individual justice vs. social justice.

      • Dale on left coast

        Social Justice . . . . a Marxist concept . . . the govt takes you money and distributes it . . . not in the Bible.
        Individual Justice . . . . a Christian Concept . . . when believers take their own assets and help the less fortunate.
        VERY LARGE DIFFERENCE DON . . .

        • eddie47d

          Dale; Social Justice is a concept for all, not just some Marxist tool. That is some lame conservative talking point to belittle caring people. If you belong to a church and that church gives to charity or missionary work then that is social justice. Not all congregants may want to spend money or participate in this missionary work . If it’s voted my the majority then it still goes through. It is still practicing what Jesus was preaching.

          • JeffH

            A lesson for eddie47D,
            A general definition of social justice is hard to arrive at and even harder to implement. In essence, social justice is concerned with equal justice, not just in the courts, but in all aspects of society. This concept demands that people have equal rights and opportunities; everyone, from the poorest person on the margins of society to the wealthiest deserves an even playing field.

            But what do the words “just” or “fair” mean, and what defines equal? Who should be responsible for making sure society is a just and fair place? How do you implement policies regarding social justice? Alternately, should you legislate for justice in society or merely rely on the moral compass of society’s members?

            From a political stance that is leftist, you must legislate to create a just society, and various programs need to exist in order to collect monies needed to even the playing field between rich, middle class, poor and those people who are routinely marginalized by society. Equal rights can be defined as equal access to things that make it possible for people in any societal sector to be successful. Therefore, leftist philosophy would support things like anti-discrimination laws and equal opportunity programs, and would favor taxation, especially of those who make a lot of money, to pay for programs that help provide equality for all.

            The far left would argue that there are certain basic needs that must be offered to all. These include things like truly equal education and safety in all schools and programs that would help all children have the financial opportunity to attend college. Far left groups, often termed socialist even if they differ from true definitions of socialism, further argue that a just society cannot be had unless everyone has access to food, safe shelter and medical care. The way to achieve this is through taxation and government implementation of programs that will guarantee these things for all people.

            The right political stance equally endorses a just society, but may criticize those who make poor choices and feel that while equal opportunity should exist, a government should not legislate for this. In fact it is argued that social justice is diminished when governments create programs to deal with it, especially when these programs call for greater taxation. Instead, those who have more money should be encouraged to be philanthropic, not by paying higher taxes, which is arguably unjust.
            http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-social-justice.htm

          • Karolyn

            That was really good Jeff. Unfortunately, you can’t legislate against greed and you can’t force people to be like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates. There is just too much greed – me, me, me. We are all here to help one another, but too many people just don’t get that concept.

      • Ceddy Bear

        Yes it is true that for those who have to assist with those who have not where they can. But don’t think this means to assist those who would not or straight up just don’t want to attempt to provide for themselves. The problem is when this truth gets perverted and those who recieve assistance conjure up the notion that why should I work when someone else is going to supply all my needs for me.

        • Karolyn

          That too is unfortunate. It also has to do with me-me-me.

      • kate8

        Don, Jesus teaches that we should care for the poor, the sick, the hungry. But not because we are FORCED to do it. It only counts if we do it out of love for God. “Love thy neighbor as thyself”.

        That is why Churches have always used donations to care for the less fortunate. Christians are the most generous and charitable of all people, and they do it even without a photo-op!

        Government only quotes the Bible when it is convenient to justify something unpopular.

  • BrotherPatriot

    If it walks like a duck & quacks like a duck…

    Get out in November people and vote like your life & your childrens future depends on it…because it most certainly does. Research who your voting for and if they have any affiliation with the current administration or the Bilderberg Virus I continue to speak about…don’t vote for them. Their Agenda is not pro-American. This Virus has infiltrated us for the past 100 years or so…time indeed to make a Change.

    GOD bless America and the dream in which we were founded. Time to get real my brothers & sisters. No longer can we sleep as we are infiltrated and they further entrench themselves into the very fabric of our society.

    YOU can make a difference…if you choose to.

  • jopa

    All this anti-muslim talk,why stop there.Lets continue with Hitlers playbook and persecute the Jews, Jehovah Witnesses and gays.I sometimes wonder about those Baptists and Catholics and Lutherans.Should they be next.Keep this crap up and it’s only a matter of time before they come for you.

    • Conservative at Birth

      It is the Muslims who allied themselves with Hitler. Don’t you read? Catholics were exterminated as well by the NAZZI’s.

      • Conservative at Birth

        And, I will be coming for you.

      • Conservatives United

        Hitler had alliances with Muslim Nations before and during WWII. The Church of Rome, thru the Pope also gave Hitler his blessing. Check it out.

        • Don

          During World War I, Prime Minister Balfour of Great Britain promised the Holy Land to both the Jews and the Palestinians. That was the start of the whole Middle East mess.

          • Conservatives United

            The problems in the middle east go back thousand of years to Biblical times. It goes back to Abraham’s sons Ishmael and Issac. Ishmael who was his son by Hagar, is acknowledged by Muslims as the ancestor of the Muslims. This is further enhanced by Esau and Jacob, the sons of Issac. Check Genesis for more details.

          • Conservative at Birth

            I am a member of the Lost Tribe of Israel. It is our land as promised from the God of Abraham. So too are the Palestinians descended from Abrahan. So what is wrong with that? It just goes to show that it is difficult for all human beings to get along. Especially relatives!

          • Dale on left coast

            One again Don you only know half-truths . . . . the country Jordan was created for the arabs by the Balfore Declaration and the state of Israel was to be created for the Jews.
            In 1917 Palestinians were all people living in the area called Palestine . . . there were Christians, Jews and moooohamedans.
            The present-day so-called palestinians are those, and decendants of those that left Israel in 1948 when the countries of Egypt, Syria, Jordan attacked the fledgling state and announced the would drive them into the sea . . . didn’t work out well, or since for that matter. Seems you always lose when your god is just a rock in medina.

          • Ceddy Bear

            Conservative at Birth, God only recognized Isaac. That is why when he told Abraham to sacrifice his son he called him his “only” son, the son whom you love. The savior came through the lineage of Isaac.

        • Conservative at Birth

          Then why did the Catholics suffer persecution under Hitler? I know personally at least 5 people who fled NAZZI Germany, Poland, etc. to avoid being murdered.

    • Reggie

      All the anti-Muslim talk comes out of baseless fear and ignorance. It’s the same reason little kids fear that something scary is under their bed. Even though it’s not there they still choose to believe it. Eventually they GROW UP and realize it was all just a dream.

      • marvin

        if it all just a dream go to a muslim country and steal or say something bad about islam and just befor they chop off your head say this can not be happening my dream is really a nightmare

      • Conservative at Birth

        Baseless? What do you define as baseless? Islam has been violent since it’s inception. It is a cult created by an Arab War Lord to keep his followers in lign.

      • ValDM

        Baseless? Hardly. In the Koran, it tells Muslims REPEATEDLY to convert all infidels. If they can’t be converted they must me beheaded. Sound like a “religion of peace” to you? If you convert, you will always be suspect and will be watched. If you don’t convert, well, so long Charlie. I, personally, would like to stay whole by worshiping the only true God……..the God of Abraham, Isaac and Joseph. Incidentally, Ishmael was Abraham’s offspring by Hagar. The Bible states unequivocally that Abraham was to get rid of the servant and her son. I also states that the Children of Hagar will never achieve the Kingdom of Heaven. See Galatians.

      • Ceddy Bear

        Reggie, then why can’t a churches or any other religious centers be erected in some muslim countries? Why are all “non-muslims” in muslim countries persecuted, tortured, and in some cases killed? Fear? I think not. We know who is truly afraid. We tolerate many religious beliefs here in America. Why can’t they say the same? Speak truth. Anything less is a lie! We have grown up. They haven’t!

        • eddie47d

          If we have grown up then allow the Mosque to be built or we are no better than the Arab nations. Yes we have the right to find out if there is a hidden agenda and where the money is coming from.I realize we could be taken for a ride on this issue. We could also prove that we are truly a great nation and practice what we preach.

          • Conservative at Birth

            Haven’t you seen the reports on who is behind the financing of the Mosque at Ground Zero? Is Islam a religion or a cult?

    • Karolyn

      Jopa – They already have gays covered, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if some of the people who post here hate Jews also. Actually, I believe I recall someone blasting Jews at some point.

  • Jason

    From Wikipedia

    “Piyush Amrit “Bobby” Jindal (born June 10, 1971) is the 55th and current Governor of Louisiana and formerly a member of the United States House of Representatives.[2] He is a member of the Republican Party.”

    “Jindal was raised in a Hindu household, but converted to Christianity while in high school. During his first year at Brown University, he was baptized according to the Roman Catholic rite.”

    All of you, please promise me that you would give Mr. Jindal as much scrutiny as you are currently giving Mr. Obama when Mr. Jindal runs for President in 2012.

    • Jason

      And here is a picture to boil that blood even further: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ObamaAllenJindalMay2010.jpg

    • Jason

      It’s been over an hour and still no takers… I wonder why that is… Oh wait, Jindal is a Republican so that makes him ALLLLLLL RIGHT (ha, get the pun)!

      • Dale on left coast

        Jason . . . we know what school he went to, even his marks if we ask. He even has a Birth Certificate which he will show you. His writings during his university years are not sealed and I would bet he only has one SIN number that belongs to him . . . . not some dead dude in Conneticut.
        Contrast him to the Bamster . . . a complete fraud with zero history . . .

      • Dale on left coast

        “It’s been over an hour and still no takers… ”

        Gee Jason . . . Jindal is TOTALLY TRANSPARENT . . . while you hero ZERO . . . is just welll . . . A ZERO!!!

      • Dale on left coast

        And Jason . . . Jindal was BORN IN THE GOOD OLE USA . . . . where was ZERO born??? Still spending money to stop us from finding out . . . evidently getting close to 2 million now.

    • Ceddy Bear

      I don’t trust info cited from wikipedia

    • Lewis Munn

      Please remind me when he runs. And I will give him all due scrutiny.

      I do not want to have to worship a statue of a lady as better than God. That would be idolatry

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    I was appalled last week to hear Billy Graham’s son say he believes BHO to be a ‘born again Christian’. I DON’T THINK SO!! BHO surely doesn’t act that way, not the way he governs. Have we not heard that BHO wanted Christian words or symbols covered up during his speeches??…..I also hate to admit that Rush Limbaugh can be boring at times, i.e., the trivia about Screwy Louie Farrakhan and the # 19. Of course, talk about numbers. Mention BHO, and I think of a number. That number is ‘666’!!!!!

  • NormP

    What a bunch of foul mouthed blithering idiots. Maybe Obama isn’t a Muslim but HE is making it hard to tell. He certainly is NOT a real Christian either, that is getting easier to tell by the day, according to HIS own words and actions. There is no such thing as “collective salvation”, GOD doesn’t save nations or families HE works on an individual basis (That by the way is where freedom really comes from … free individual choice). As for your support of Islam that is fine but realize this: when Islam finally prevails your free individual choice WILL be gone. Or at best reduced to be a Muslim or be dead. How many ‘Christian’ churches are there in Saudi Arabia?? ALL choices have consequences, every time.

    • Dale on left coast

      Hell Norm . . . we don’t even know if he’s an American. How does one go through life a keep all your past a secret??? Only the unhinged left could buy into this guys silly sales pitch. He knows everything about nothing and reads a teleprompted well . . . endless campaign funds from Soros . . . .
      I called it two years ago . . . . by 2010 . . . 20% unemployment, terrorist attacks on US soil and massive govt spending and growth.

      • Lewis Munn

        And I may well be dead; all my social security taxed away to give insurance to illegals. Obama breaking promises that the older folks will not be hurt…tho maybe he means just to execute us painlessly some dark night!

        Let our grandkids grow up without grandparents.

        But it makes sense to wipe out a generation so the government can start propagandizing without us old folks letting out the truth about how it was and got to be as it will be.

  • James

    This is what Obama said before Nov. 5 2008:
    “When I become President, I will seek a pact of agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation, have placed upon the nations of Islam, an unfair injustice which is WHY my wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past”.
    “Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path.. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country’s First black Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America ” He’s a Flag burning Hater of America from his own lips!!!

  • Conservatives United

    If that is all you got out of the post is a spelling MISSSSSSSTAKE, then you missed the real point

    • http://Netscape Evelyn

      To Conservatives United – To whom were you addressing the “spelling misssstake”? Most of the posts have errors. I choose to believe that they are “keying” errors. I think faster than I type. Some type faster than they think. Whichever – overlook it.

      • Lewis Munn

        If I had a dollar for spelling error, I could buy Obama. For at least a day!

  • Jason

    “666″ is a reference to the number of letters in Emperor Nero’s full name in Hebrew נרון קסר which corresponds to numbers that add up to 666. BHO name’s have 6, 7 & 5 letters respectively which directly corresponds to Tommy Tu-Tone’s 1981 hit 8[67-5]309.

    The 8 means he’s a Muslim and the 309 means he eats babies for breakfast. Since Tommy Tu-Tone is a renowned Bilderberg, the songs was the ‘siren’ call for all to begin molding BHO to take over the world. In 1982, the year after the song came out, BHO’s father was killed in a car crash thus sealing off one side of BHO’s story forever.

    In February 1981, BHO made his first public speech, calling for Occidental’s divestment from South Africa.[26] In mid-1981, Obama traveled to Indonesia to visit his mother and sister Maya, and visited the families of college friends in India and Pakistan for three weeks.[26]

    Later in 1981 he transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialty in international relations[27] and graduated with a B.A. in 1983. He worked for a year at the Business International Corporation,[28][29] then at the New York Public Interest Research Group.[30][31]

    ALL PROVEN FACTS. IT’S THE BILDERBERG’S AND TOMMY TU-TONE TAKING OVER THE WORLD!

    • Jason

      I forgot -> 8 stands for “Is Muslim” and the 309 stands for “Eat” (3) 0 [year olds, ie babies] at “9″ am.

    • Dale on left coast

      Explain how he travelled to Pakistan Jason . . . . in those years it was forbidden for any US citizen to go to pakistan. But if you were an Indonesian Citizen with an Indonesian passport . . . NO PROBLEM!!!!

      • Jason

        Luckily, someone has already done the work for me: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/06/more-birther-nonsense-obamas-1981-pakistan-trip/ American citizens could travel to Pakistan during the time in which BHO traveled there. But, that doesn’t satisfy your insatiable need for conspiracy. So, you won’t believe it.

        So, I’ll tell you, it’s the Bilderbergs and Tommy Tu-Tone. Along with my connections above, Tommy Tu-Tone’s record company was Columbia and BHO transferred to Columbia University. All of these are too coincidental for the connection not to be true. Do you believe this?

        • JeffH

          Factcheck.org–anything but factual
          While touting itself as a ‘nonpartisan’ source for information verification, Factcheck.org is actually anything but factual. The organization is a front-group for Leftwing causes and has ties to domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and his political protege Barack Obama.

          Factcheck.org is part and parcel of the Annenberg Foundation. Factcheck was also chosen by the Obama campaign as the arbitrar of whether Obama’s birth certificate, which purportedly proves he’s a citizen of the United States, is authentic.

          Here are the facts, then, about Factcheck.org:

          1. The Annenberg Foundation gave money to fund Factcheck at the University of Pennsylvania.

          2. The Annenberg Foundation gave money to domestic terrorist Bill Ayers to start the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

          3. Ayers recruited Obama to chair the newly funded Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which doled out multi-millions of dollars per year in grants to various causes and organizations. Obama served as Chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995 to 1999.

          4. One of the organizations to which the Chicago Annenberg Challenge gave millions of dollars was ACORN.

          5. Factcheck was specifically chosen by Obama to run interference for him in the Presidential eligibility controversy.
          http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/factcheck-org-anything-but-factual

    • Dale on left coast

      One of the foremost promoters of global govt is the uber wealthy globalist despot little Georgie Soros . . . . a very large contributor to the Bamster campaign, Dimmicrats and a lot of lefty-looney projects in America.
      Anyone that hasn’t figured out that another couple of years like the last two . . . and Freedom and Prosperity in America are HISTORY!!!

      • JeffH

        Well said ant true.

        • Claire

          JeffH–Bob was telling me that he heard that Soros and Dick Armey are in cahoots now. Have you heard this?

          • JeffH

            Claire, I doubt very much that there would be a connection between the two. As for Dick Armey and his FreedomWorks, I haven’t paid much attention to them. Don’t be confused with FreedomWorks and the “grassroots” Tea Party movement, they are not connected.

    • Karolyn

      ROFLMAO!

      • Angel Wannabe

        K, yeah we’re laughing too, b/c, ya just don’t get it!

        • Karolyn

          I can say the very same thing to you.

          • Angel Wannabe

            K, yes you can, but it only counts if it’s accepted and it’s not!
            _So I’ll be on my Conservative way, lefty!

  • bob

    didnt obama say in an interview that “his muslom religion” and had to be corrected by the interviewer that it was his “christian religion.” and he said oh yes my “christian reigion.” just shows me that he is a liar and deciver! god help us while he is still in office. i’d rather have carter back!

  • EltonJ

    I’ve always known he’s muslim.

  • TP

    I dont think he is a Muslim or Christain he is a clown,

  • Brad

    Received this in a e-mail and thought it was appropriate for the discussion.

    Barack HUSSEIN OBAMA,
    during his Cairo speech, said:
    “I know, too, that Islam has always been a part
    of America ‘s story.”

    AN AMERICAN
    CITIZEN’S RESPONSE:

    Dear Mr.
    Obama:

    Were those
    Muslims that were in America when the Pilgrims
    first landed? Funny, I thought they were
    Native American Indians.

    Were those
    Muslims that celebrated the first Thanksgiving
    day? Sorry again, those were Pilgrims and
    Native American Indians.

    Can you
    show me one Muslim signature on the United
    States Constitution?

    Declaration
    of Independence ?

    Bill of
    Rights?

    Didn’t
    think so.

    Did
    Muslims fight for this country’s freedom from
    England ? No.

    Did
    Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the
    slaves in America ? No, they did
    not. In fact, Muslims to this day are
    still the largest traffickers in human
    slavery. Your own half brother, a devout
    Muslim, still advocates slavery himself, even
    though Muslims of Arabic descent refer to black
    Muslims as “pug nosed slaves.” Says a lot
    of what the Muslim world really thinks of your
    family’s “rich Islamic heritage,” doesn’t it Mr.
    Obama?

    Where were
    Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this
    country? Not present.

    There are
    no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking
    side by side with Martin Luther King, Jr. or
    helping to advance the cause of Civil
    Rights.

    Where were
    Muslims during this country’s Woman’s Suffrage
    era? Again, not present. In fact,
    devout Muslims demand that women are subservient
    to men in the Islamic culture. So much so,
    that often they are beaten for not wearing the
    ‘hajib’ or for talking to a man who is not a
    direct family member or their husband.
    Yep, the Muslims are all for women’s rights,
    aren’t they?

    Where were
    Muslims during World War II? They were
    aligned with Adolf Hitler. The Muslim
    grand mufti himself met with Adolf Hitler,
    reviewed the troops and accepted support from
    the Nazi’s in killing Jews.

    Finally,
    Mr. Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th,
    2001? If they weren’t flying planes into
    the World Trade Center , the Pentagon or a field
    in Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people on
    our own soil, they were rejoicing in the Middle
    East . No one can dispute the pictures
    shown from all parts of the Muslim world
    celebrating on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and other
    cable news networks that day. Strangely,
    the very “moderate” Muslims who’s asses you bent
    over backwards to kiss in Cairo , Egypt on June
    4th were stone cold silent post 9-11. To
    many Americans, their silence has meant approval
    for the acts of that day.

    And THAT, Mr.
    Obama, is the “rich heritage” Muslims have here
    in America .

    Oh, I’m sorry, I
    forgot to mention the Barbary Pirates.
    They were Muslim.

    And now we can
    add November 5, 2009 – the slaughter of American
    soldiers at Fort Hood by a Muslim major who is a
    doctor and a psychiatrist who was supposed to be
    counseling soldiers returning from battle in
    Iraq and Afghanistan .

    That, Mr. Obama
    is the “Muslim heritage” in America
    .

    EVERY AMERICAN
    MUST READ THIS !!

    Muslim heritage, my ass

  • JANE

    Just an observation on Mr. Obama; He apprears to be a real social(liberal Communist)democrat who takes his marching orders from those that were instrumental in putting him in office (not the average black or white voters). The Dem’s party choose to use the POOR uneducated and basically misguided black voters and also the misguided wminority dissidents, and the young college age voters; and other poor …His contributors came from both sides of socialism spectrum Dem., GOP, Liberalist, socialist, And now he listens ONLY to the Bilderbergs and the group that you probably heard about or read about “the Elitists.”
    Let’s see there is one I recognize at the crux of it…
    One maybe the leader ..VA Congressman, Senator Rockerfeller (D) being Another maybe be Mr. David Rockerfeller who’s father decided years ago he was going to run the massive Oil markets, and most importantly World wide Oil Industry, banking, and does…encompassing the entire world..He and the world elitists..banking gourps…have placed a firm grip on world money and gold and oil ,,they use lies and manipulation and old hype propaganda, self serving and any tactics, all under the umbrella of Socialism to cast the “One World Order” plan.

    we are lately being told we are living in a New GLOBAL WORLD with the UN running countries businsses, they sold some a bill of goods called “Utopia”.. Obama is only one but important player in this,, various others in high places do the beckoning…So go do your reading and find out yourself who Obama and his backers really are.

  • 45caliber

    Actually, I think he is an atheist. Religion is only useful to him as a way to gain more votes. And it doesn’t matter what that religion might be. In any group of religious people he believes the same thing they do – until he gets to the next group.

  • ALWAYS RIGHT

    Christians don’t spend billions of other people’s money to murder babies.
    Christians don’t hob-nob with islamofascists while ignoring other Christians
    Christians don’t support homosexuality

    lastly, he admits to having been a Muslim as a child & in a slip-up in an interview. But now claims that he’s no longer a muslim: “apostate”, so to speak. However…the other muslims haven’t put out a “fatwah” on him, as they would if he’d truly “fallen away”, so it is likely that this was all taqiyya, lying to futher his islamist beliefs.

    • Mike B

      Your statements are a joke. Frankly I could care less if he is a Christian. There’s little doubt that he’s not a Muslim although I couldn’t care less if he was. He does however seem to not carry the Christian “Bigot” gene that you so eloquently display.

      • Brad

        No, Obama’s no bigot, he just cancels the national day of prayer, oh and he invites muslim leaders to the white house to pray before ramadon starts. Look who’s calling the kettle black!!!

      • 45caliber

        No, he carries the Muslim bigot gean. You know, the one that insists that it is okay to do whatever he needs to do to destroy anyone who isn’t Muslim. It is much larger than the Christian one.

  • Raggs

    obama is a christianphobic as he stated in one of his books… when times got bad he would revert to his fathers religion “ISLAM”…

    Why are you people afraid of Christians anyway?
    Are you afraid that you would need to live as a decent person with values and morals?

    • Mike B

      I’m afraid “Christians” have a hard time separating church and state. American Christian extremest’s have the same values as the Muslim extremest. From burning “Witches” to bombing “Abortion clinics” extremest’s come in all manner of color and faith. Yes “Christians” scare me, bigotry seems to be a prerequisite for admission. You faithfully believe that “decency” can only come with a Christian belief.

      • 45caliber

        Sorry, you are wrong. Christians believe that anyone can be a good person but we also believe that you have to have values from some source to be able to hold to those values. You seem to have a problem with Christian values. And many of your “examples” of how bad Christians are come from ancient history. The only one you have referenced in modern time is bombing a abortion clinic. And I don’t remember the bomber stating he did it for Christian reasons; he said he didn’t like the murder of unborn babies. Even the Muslims agree with that one. Only you liberals don’t.

      • Raggs

        No you are sadly mistaken!
        It is the government that tries to control the church not the other way around…
        Have your children pray in school and see what happens except if your a muslim you will told to stop… you really do not have a clue do you?… Christians do not kill people in the name of GOD but muslims do preform murder in the name of thier god. Extremism.. I would suggest a look in the mirror.

      • Lewis Munn

        Mike, go talk with the Focus on the Family folks, and see how terribly bigoted and unconcerned they are.

        I suspect you avoid studying real Christianity or talking with real Christian people in today’s world, because it would show up your mistakes, and biases and you want always to be right…mmm…left?

  • Larry Gillihan

    I didn’t read all these comments, but most of them. In none I read is Satan, the chief devil of the Bible, mentioned. What’s happenening now is, Satan is destroying the greatest Christian nation and the most powerful nation that has ever existed on the earth. He has tried to whip us with armies, but can’t do it, so now he’s doing it with deception. Obama’s goal is to bankrupt us…to cripple us financially…to weaken us, so that we may be more easily taken over.
    He is obviously a muslim. His words and actions prove it.
    Islam is not a religion of God, is is a religion of Satan. That is proven by the fact that they don’t like Jesus. Islam says it’s o.k. to lie if you do it to “unbelievers”; the Bible says Satan is “the father of lies”. Islam says it’s o.k. to kill “unbelievers”; God says we should not kill anybody, and we should love our enemies.
    Except for Satan’s deception, I cannot imagine why anybody would prefer the incredibly oppressive and cruel laws of Islam over the freedom of Christianity.
    The apostle Paul said we are not fighting “flesh and blood”, but the “powers of darkness”. These “powers of darkness” are, of course, Satan and his gang. It’s happening right now.

    • Mike B

      To prove my point, a TRUE EXTREMEST.

      • 45caliber

        Really? You seem to have an odd idea of what an extremist is. Perhaps you should study the habits of the Islamic fundamentalists more closely. They might be able to help, particularly if you were to go to one of their countries and insist on getting educated personally.

        • Mike B

          So you actually agree with this guy? Did you take the time to read his post?

          • Raggs

            The great deceiver of men…
            We would not be talking about this if there had been any doubt of obama.. He is a deceiver of men… and therefore anyone that is not with Christ is against him! Like you… you are likewise a deceiver of men.

          • 45caliber

            Yes, I did read his post. I don’t necessarily agree with all of it, but I certainly wouldn’t say he is an extremist. He isn’t trying to kill everyone who disagrees with him. At worst, he’s a crackpot. At best, he’s right.

      • Raggs

        Mike.. an idea for you…
        Move your ass to saudi and practice your lies. Or I’m sure your are already in a terroist ( islamic ) org that is hell bent on destroying this country.

  • concerned

    Any religion of today that glorifies hate, encourages lying to protect your true cause, and allows the killing of your loved ones if you ever try to leave the religion- is really a cult-

    I could have a religion and call it “Pancake” religion. Forcing everyone to eat pancakes and if they don’t I cut off their head. If they don’t like pancakes I kill them. Pray to the big pancake in the sky and I have to be allowed to pray daily anywhere I want for any reason and you can’t do anything about it- because that is the pancake religion and “you” must conform to my pancake law. If you talk bad about pancakes then you suffer the consequences and so forth. Call it what you want- its still is what it is.

  • jopa

    President Obama was born in the USA in the state of Hawaii and I know most of you thought it was a foreign country.It really is a state and I will accept your gratitude in advance for educating you.Yes he is also Christian and becoming one of the greatests presidents this country has ever seen.Thank you

    • concerned

      show us the birht cert- that is under lock and key, show us your transcripts, your passports when you were a child and teen (oops someone said they were accidentally ditched) but others have passports back to the 50s.

      since you are such a believer i have some land i want to sell, send me your check and i will promise to give you the deed-

    • chuck b

      jopa

      do you remember the famous statement “barnum” made??, he was thinking of you when hew made it.

    • 45caliber

      What part of “greatest” don’t you understand? It is certain that you must be on welfare, since if you had to pay taxes instead of getting paid, you wouldn’t think he was so great.

      • Raggs

        Yup the next step for obama and company will be to legalize prostitution so we can all get screwed for free… ( on the taxpayers dime ).

        • 45caliber

          That wouldn’t surprise me at all. And like the Roman Emperor, he will draft your pretty wife and daughters to get the money for the government.

          • Raggs

            Prehaps we should use the illegals that are flowing over the borders.

            Shucks someone else has already thought of that idea…. I think it’s called amnesty for votes… Too bad the government doesn’t tax that…
            No but instead of taxing it, I have a better idea… Let’s make it free for the illegals and tax the citizens for it…. Oh crap we already do that!!!

            Ok then let the government usurp thier authority, well it is already being done.

      • Lewis Munn

        Especially when he plans to kill off us old people by taking away much of our Social Security to pay medical bills for the illegals.

    • Conservative at Birth

      Prove it.

  • JeffH

    It is my opinion that Obama could very well be a closet Islamic Muslim, known as “taqiyya”.

    The word “Taqiyya” literally means: “Concealing, precaution, guarding.” It is employed in disguising one’s beliefs, intentions, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions or strategies. In practical terms it is manifested as dissimulation, lying, deceiving, vexing and confounding with the intention of deflecting attention, foiling or pre-emptive blocking. It is currently employed in fending off and neutralising any criticism of Islam or Muslims.

    Like many Islamic practices, taqiyya was formed within the context of the culture of Arab tribalism, expansionary warfare, Bedouin raiding and inter-tribal conflict. Taqiyya has been used by Muslims since the 7th century to confuse, confound and divide ‘the enemy’.
    http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm

    • 45caliber

      I personally believe that he, like almost politicians in Washington, is actually an atheist who will say whatever you want to hear to get elected.

      • JeffH

        45caliber, that’s a given.

        • Mike B

          Dito

          • Raggs

            Idiot mike it is spelled DITTO…

    • JeffH

      Remember when Obama told the France’s Canal + that “les Etats-Unis sont l’un des plus grands pays musulmans“.
      Translated: The United States is one of the largest Muslim countries on the planet.
      The CIA Factbook has the Muslim population of the US even lower at 0.6%.

      The WikiIslam defines “taqiyya” as “sanctified hypocrisy.” That is Barak Obama to a T. He uses taqiyya constantly, as on French TV when he claimed the US was one of the biggest Muslim nations, and recently to avoid having our government adhere to agreements it made with the state of Israel during the Bush administration. Or maybe it was our State Department practicing taqiyya in his behalf. In any case, it comes to the same thing.

      • Mike B

        Indonesia Is #1 with 86.1% USA has 0.6%.

  • Mac

    I don’t care if Obama is not a Christian, but I DO care if he is a Muslim! I think Islam/Muslims are the most widespread cult in history – a thought-controlled mind-twisted group. But that’s just my opinion.

    • Mike B

      How do you feel about Morman’s, 7th Day Adventist’s, Catholic’s, Jew’s or are you just selective. I seem to remember Germany being “selective” a while back. Is your view a resurgence of that era?

      • 45caliber

        I’m selective. I don’t like anyone who insists they have the right to kill me regardless of religion. The rest I can get along with.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Well said 45!

    • Andy Howey

      In my opinion, as I wrote in a letter to my Representative asking that she initiate or support impeachment proceedings against our fearful leader, Islam is not really a religion. It is a political ideology with religious overtones, an ideology that is completely antithetical to American ideals. It IS like a cult in that it insists things be done only in accordance with the dictates of the leadership, but, then again, Communism in the Soviet Union was much the same way.

      Mohammed was the Hitler of his day, trying his hardest to subjugate or eradicate any Jews or Christians within his sphere of influence. He had the additional delightful personality traits of being a mysogynistic child molester. This is the man that Muslims revere above all men as the ultimate “messenger of god” (not capitalized, because the “god” the Muslims worship is not the same God that Christians and Jews worship — a demon, perhaps, but not God).

      Anyone who believes that Islam is a “religion” of peace and tolerance is sadly mistaken. Muslims believe that it is their mission in life to conquer, subjugate, and convert the whole world to Islam. Those who are conquered but don’t convert have the option of being dhimmi or being dead.

  • Mona

    Obama shows nothing to me that would qualify him to be a Christian. Especially going to that hate filled church he went to for so many years. That tree he put up had a figure of a dictator on it. How religious can you get? His words and actions show that he loves the Muslim’s religion. His criticism of the Bible shows that he isn’t too fond of it. His preacher is caught lying. His friends and appointees are Communistic, radicals that have bombed places in the United States, and other people that I would hate to pass on the street. If he went to court to be convicted of being a Christian, he wouldn’t have anything to worry about. He would never be convicted. He puts on a different face when speaking to groups, depending on who he is talking to. He has continually been caught in lies. These are just a few things about him that anyone can find out. Wonder what we don’t know.

    • Mike B

      Dito
      Raggs, get it now? I’m taking on the persona of an inbred idiot agreeing with the post I’m replying to.
      I mean check this post out, “If he went to court to be convicted of being a Christian, he wouldn’t have anything to worry about.”
      Post’s like this allow people like me to draw conclusions about people like you. Can you blame me for trying to find a little humor in this stupidity?

      • Raggs

        You really need a shorter bed so you wont fall on your head so much.

  • Karolyn

    It’s people like you pushing this agenda that are making this happen. I believe he’s Christian. Give it a rest! Rabble-rousing. That’s all this site is doing. You can’t believe all polls either, just like you can’t believe statistics.

    • 45caliber

      Mark Twain once said something along the lines of: “There are three types of lies: small lies, big lies, and statistics.”

      • Karolyn

        Actually, I believe it was “lies, damned lies and statistics.” I’m reading “Damned Lies and Statistics” for my Sociology class this semester. It is quite eye-opening. Most people believe any statistics they are fed.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Ok That explains your mindset Karolyn, your just and indoctrinated KID!

          • Karolyn

            Angel – I’m 63 years old and just started college in January.

    • Raggs

      OHHH really?.. how many Christians believe there are many paths to heaven?… How many Christians believe Allah will save them?…
      How many Christians believe in abortion?… How many Christians believe in Homosexualism?…. I have got to see your reply.

      • Karolyn

        What does that have to do with what I posted or with anything for that matter?

    • Angel Wannabe

      Well Karolyn, you can always exit stage left, since your a lefty!

      • Karolyn

        Ha-ha. You are so witty. Actually, I can do whatever I want. – Thank you very much.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Karolyn, me too!

  • chuck b

    there is no doubt in my mind barry is a muslim, he certainly hasn’t tried to disprove it. you would think he would want to squelch the rumors of his muslim religion and the citizenship controversy, he makes no attempt to do either.
    the muslim religion is like a cancer to this country and it gathers the ignorant as it’s pawns. there have been mosques at different locations in the u.s. involved in terrorist training and fund raising for al aeda.
    yet we give them protection under the constitution “freedom of religion”. who determines the meaning of religion? is islam a religion or a cult. clinton murdered people at waco who claimed to be a religous sect, do you think he would be so quick on the trigger now with these muslims? no! i don’t think so either since one of their own is attorney gen of the u.s. and probably associates himself with the black muslims. so who do we blame for all this chaos? no other than the big tent party, so thank them for the problem.

  • http://yahoo Bob Bel cher

    THE WALK MEANS MORE THEN THE TALK. YOU ARE WHAT YOU DO.he lied about everything he said before entering office.Muslims lie a lot. His actions are for the Muslims. he bowed to a SAUDI KING WHO IS A HIGH LEADER IN THE MUSLIN religion. there was more to that bow then meets the eye.HE WAS BORN A MUSLIN HIS Father was muslin. his mother was communist socialist who betrayed her on country. MUSLIMS LOVE COMMUNIST.SO YES I AM SAYING HE IS MUSLIM. is there any doubt.

  • magjoh

    When Hillary Clinton was running for Pres. She said why Americans are trying to figure out what they need she was going to give it to them. Just like saying Americans can’t think for themselves. After reading these comments day after day I know where she got the that ideal from. People can’t think for themselves. They jump on any empty wagon and help it make more noise.

  • http://yahoo Bob Bel cher

    IF HE LOOKS GAY ACTS GAY AND DOES AS GAYS HE IS GAY ANY QUESTIONS.

    • Karolyn

      What the hell does that have to do with anything?

      • Raggs

        I think he is calling him a RAT.

  • Raggs

    How many of you people know that….

    obama wants FULL control over your health via . government intrusion into your records and decision making based upon your condition.
    The use of a GPS tracking system / encoded system of ALL of your personal information.
    Tax you for the milage you drive back and forth to work ( besides the already gas taxes ).. http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=106056 here is the link.
    Treat us like cattle that are easily killed for his gain.

    Make no mistake this man is the anti-christ!

  • Raggs

    I’m not a right-wing-nut or even close to that.
    I do however believe the deciever in chief is exactly what he needs to be in order to fullfill the bible.

    You cannot sit at your pc and not see it.

    I also have a deep feeling he will be re-elected based on his deception from the uber left regardless of the vote count. It stands to reason that he will stay in control.. The control will rush to the point of many americans dieing to uphold thier freedom.. Do you get the picture?

    • Rod

      One thing is sure he IS a Muslim! However, he will NOT be successful! We will take Congress back and the Senate and he will be IMPEACHED! He was born in Kenya and that is where we will send him back to! He occupies The Presidents White House and Oval office but is CLEARLY
      NOT the President! He is already failing and falling apart. His own
      party can’t stand him. He lives and breathes Socialism. Every step he takes, every move he makes is meant to destroy this GREAT COUNTRY of
      ours—but, he will fail!

  • Rod

    The Greatest thing we can do for this country of ours IS VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!

    • Raggs

      VOTE.VOTE.VOTE!

      And you really think that matters?
      Do you control the VOTE?… That sounds like an excuse to sit on your butt and “HOPE” for the best…
      Lame… and exactly what they want is more sheeple they can control.

      Most if not all of you people will never have a clue. So you get what you deserve.

  • melody

    Does anyone think he would of been elected if he said, “I am a muslim?” He tells a lie to get elected, and then does as he pleases to deny Christianity at every chance he can get. Remember the National Day of Prayer? Christmas… Easter…. don’t remember the media covering any of these at the White House, do you? Who is his spiritual advisor? Anyone invited to pray with him? If he was a true Christian, he would live like it, speak like it, and most importantly be a witness for Christ! What better way to witness to the muslim world than to say I studied the Koran, have been exposed to Islam… but it does not offer hope, salvation, and everlasting peace like Christianity… and I chose Jesus Christ above all else. He is my savior and I want the whole world to know He is the only hope of all the world. For him to say… there are many paths to God, is absolutely contrary to Christianity… Jesus was hated because he said… I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to father except by me…. this is why Jesus was hated, and persecuted, but this is basic knowledge 101 of what it means to be a Christian. Obama does not know this? He is playing the game of pretending, but he is not a committed Christian. He just knows enough to qoute things from time to time, but he hasn’t taken a stand for Christ, would not die for Christ, and definitely will not fully commit to Christ as we are called to do.

    • Raggs

      Well we can always VOTE him out… How funny is that.
      It used to be a good idea to control the power of the government but guess what lady…. It does not work anymore.

  • http://www.charter.net James Graham

    how did this man ever pass security for presidency ,this is what puzzles me .something is fishey in denmark ,that just chap`s my hyde, this is crocked as a dog`s hind leg .

    WHO IS HE?
    Ever wondered why no one ever came forward from Obama’s past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc. Not one person has ever come forward from his past.

    VERY, VERY STRANGE…

    This should really be a cause for great concern.
    To those who voted for him, you have elected the biggest unqualified fraud that America has ever known.
    Sort of adds credence to the idea of The Manchurian Candidate thing happening here!

    George Stephanopoulos, of ABC News.. said the same thing during the 2008 campaign.
    He too was a classmate of Obama’s at Columbia class of 1984. He said he never had a single class
    with him.

    While he is such a great orator, why doesn’t anyone in Obama’s college class remember him? And, why won’t he allow Columbia to release his records?
    NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT COLUMBIA !
    Looking for evidence of Obama’s past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have been there, but none remembered him.

    Wayne Allyn Root was, like Obama, a political science major at Columbia who also graduated in 1983.
    In 2008, Root says of Obama, “I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know
    me. I don’t have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia . EVER! Nobody recalls him.

    Root adds that he was also, like Obama, “Class of ’83 political science, pre-law” and says, “You don’t get more exact or closer than that.” Never met him in my life, don’t know anyone who ever met him. At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me. No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who’s kind of the, as we say in New York, the macha who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him.”

    Obama’s photograph does not appear in the school’s yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia , provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friend while at Columbia .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Allyn_Root#column-one

    NOTE: Root graduated as Valedictorian from his high school, Thornton-Donovan School , then graduated from Columbia University in 1983 as a Political Science major in the same class that Barack Hussein Obama was supposed to have been in.

    Some Other Interesting Questions..

    Why was Obama’s law license inactivated in 2002? Why was Michelle’s law license inactivated by Court Order?

    It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 Social Security numbers and over 80 aliases. The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is never reported to have lived.

    No wonder all his records are sealed!

    We must go on and continue sending these out to everyone.

    Pass this on to everyone…pass it across America !

    • kate8

      James, good post. The thing is, there are those who’ve been telling us all this since before he was selected. They just won’t listen.

      This is how brain-dead much of this country has become. They can have all the evidence, all the lies, inconsistencies, and thuggery placed before them, and still simply choose to believe he’s the messiah.

      Tyrants and despots have done this time and again throughout history. The nation is crashing and burning, and the true believers carp about how wonderful things are.

      Like Carpathia (in Left Behind series), he can shoot a person right in front of a whole group, convince them it was a suicide, and they go about believing it was a suicide. There are many people who are suseptible to mass hypnosis, especially if they want to believe in something.

  • http://gmail i41

    Onumnutts is a muslim, he was indoctinated durning his formative years and nows all the slick tricks of the Isam and communist doctorine all the way to his lying days at college to get a free education with ties to a Saudia goat rider. Haven’t heard him say he doesn’t like pork, but look at the hams on Big Mama!I see Karolyn is going back for more socialist indoctination from overeducted do nothing productive avowed communists. When Onumnutts had the feast of rammadon, did they all drag out their stinking prayer rugs? I was around enough converted muslims in Denver who say Obama is a muslim and has close ties to many radical muslims all over that is kept quite, their were Irans and have problems with the calls to worship and new mosque building programs, which our security never monitors for the imans and attendees.

  • Shasta

    he is Not Muslim, He is Not Christian……..HE IS A POS!

  • chuck b

    barry has rug burns on his knees!!

  • SAM

    OBAMA IS A MUSLIM, GO TO; YouTube-NotNatual-Born-TRUTH MATTERS

    • JS in WA

      I’VE SEEN THE VIDEO. NOTICE ALL THE EDITS. EVERY SNIPPET TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT AND COMPILED TO MAKE OBAMA SAY WHAT THE VIDEO EDITOR WANTED HIM TO SAY. IT’S ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT THE PRESIDENT.

    • JS in WA

      OH, BY THE WAY, ON YOUTUBE YOU CAN ALSO FIND VIDEOS ABOUT THE TOOTH FAIRY AND SANTA CLAUSE. THEY’RE REAL TOO.

      • http://yahoo Deb Torok

        Take your head out of your butt, the man is a fraud. And all you liberals that voted for him get to share the blame.

        • JS in WA

          You have such a way with words. Not a good way, but a way just the same. :-P

  • http://jsing@cox.net JOSEPH

    TAQIYA, A PRINCIPAL OF ISLAM, REQUIRES AND ALLOW ALL MUSLIMS TO DISSEMBLE, IF IT SERVES TO FURTHER THE GOALS OF ISLAM.

    • James

      Joseph, Well put. Let’s remember that the nineteen hi-jackers were condescending and admired by all, until the time came for them to carry out their mission, their real reason for being here.

  • s a

    First, I don’t believe a word barak hussein obama is saying.
    to respect a little, barak hussein omaba has to release and unlock
    his identity.
    HOW WE CAN BELIEVE HIM WHEN HE LOCKED HIS IDENTITY AND OPEN HIS MOUTH LIKE A …….
    BY THE ISLAM FAITH, A MUSLIM IS ALLOWED TO LIE TO NON MUSLIM
    AND HE IE DOING IT.

    BARAK HUSSEIN OBAMA, PROVE ME WRONG

  • Patty Harris

    I rememner his girls do not receive birthday or Christmas gifts. His faith does not celebrate baby Jesus birthday. He doesn’t like wearing flag pin or Pledge with hand over heart.

    • http://yahoo Deb Torok

      Let’s see…..won’t recognize National day of Prayer, refuses to be photographed with the prime minister of Israel, but bends over backward to accomodate Muslims, and gives a state dinner to recognize Ramadan. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing, the sooner he is out of office the better. He is an embarassment.

  • http://YouTube.com/CanadaLarry Lawrence Edward Calcut

    I read most of the posts and found a lot of information and some dis-informatio and.. ..
    Let’s recap.

    Obama is a Christian, no
    Obama is a Muslim, Maybe
    Obama is a Freemason, YES
    Obama is a Morman, no
    Obama is a Hindo, no
    Obama is a Luciferian, Maybe
    Obama is a Catholic, no
    Obama is an American, ???????????????????
    Obama is a NWO-Eliteist, YES

    What am I trying to say?, He says he is a Christian but isn’t really, and He says he is a Moslim and may be but a poor excuse for one, and he certainly isn’t a Hindo, but he is a Freemason and he can’t be a mason and a Christian or a Catholic at the same time, and the Mormans are trying to clean up their act so they would not really welcome his joining because he is a ??? oh, now I am confused. Now, Obama is not really an American but that don’t matter because a lot of misguided Americans didn’t care what he was because he was so cute and handsome and they were disinchanted with the Bushes and Golden boys so… and since Obama was told years ago he would be president some day he even voted for himself. Now, what’s left, oh yes. Lucifer, I don’t think Obama would stoop so low as to worship Lucifer but if he is a Moslim he is allowed to lie about anything so maybe he is a Muslim.
    And, in spite of what he says on the subject he will want the “Mosque at Ground Zero” (they have already namen it) built at “Ground Zero”.

    Enought….

  • jopa

    OMG maybe he’s a Jehovah Witness so what???

  • Boo Ewald Taylor

    If it quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

  • TAKE BACK AMERICA

    a total waste of time

  • Mitch

    Look what’s going on in Mexican border towns where drug thugs are assassinating mayors every other week it seems.

    THIS, my friends, is exactly what terrorists are to Islam. The shooters who kills mayors work with the drug cartels and are there TO INTIMIDATE people into non-action. To let these goons keep doing what they want to do which is make money from drug sales in the U.S.

    The terrorists who threaten others, blow up buses, fly planes into building, cut people’s heads off – these THUGS are working in tandem with the Muslim Brotherhood whose sole goal is ISLAMIC DOMINATION OF THE WORLD. And believe me, America is the jewel in their crown.

    So my point is that we ABSOLUTELY MUST NOT submit to Islam in any way, shape or form. If we don’t resist them, they will find a way, either through this intimidation or through stealth means to overtake our society and swallow it up. I truly believe that we must put a moratorium on the building of any new mosques ANYWHERE in the U.S. because the majority of these people, whether you call them moderate, liberal or secular Muslims, are going to be under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Wahhabi teachings, which call for replacement of the U.S. Constitution with Shariah Law.

    Remember – if a force pushing in one direction is not met by a force pushing harder in the opposite direction, the force will devour what is in its way.

    RESIST, America. RESIST!

  • Red blooded American

    What part of: Anti-God; Anti-bible; Anti-Christian; Anti-white; Anti-American; Anti-morals; Anti-Constitution; Anti-Israel; Anti-life———Pro-illegal immigration; pro-illegal (non-U.s. citizen) socialist voters; pro-Islamic sharia law; pro-murder; pro-terrorist organizations; pro right is wrong- wrong is right— a teleprompter puppet that don’t know what truth is. Can’t even find a legal birth certificate.

    WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!

    The NEA has loaded your subconscious with the communist manifesto to the point you don’t even know what you that you are selling your souls out to the total destruction of the freedoms of the great UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

    I pray that you will search your hearts and turn back to the God of the bible, before it’s too late.

    The government is getting too powerful, and wants to destroy the “two-party democratic governing body” for a one party dictative rule.

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