Poll: Many Americans Still Question Government Narrative Of Sept. 11 Tragedy

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A poll released just ahead of the 12th anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks in New York, Pennsylvania and Washington, D.C. shows a combined 60 percent of Americans believe their own government has not been completely forthcoming about the events that caused the collapse of the World Trade Center towers, nor about the narrative that attributes the tragedy to the al-Qaida-sponsored hijacking of four commercial planes.

The poll of 1,194 adults, sponsored by ReThink911.org, shows that 40 percent of those questioned are completely satisfied with the official government account as an accurate representation of what happened twelve years ago. But 38 percent said they have “some doubts” about whether the government version explains everything. Another 10 percent said they don’t believe the government’s account at all, while 12 percent weren’t sure.

Fewer are interested in re-opening an investigation into the matter, however, with only a combined 29 percent saying they support such an effort. A combined 32 percent said they don’t support revisiting a Sept. 11 investigation, with the remainder saying they either aren’t sure or have no opinion.

The six-question poll focuses particularly on a theory that challenges the idea that a third building – World Trade Building 7 – collapsed merely from secondary office fires. That lingering question has garnered more attention from builders, architects, and structural and mechanical engineers as video footage of the collapse, which has continued to circulate among those engaged in the construction trades, has taken on a sort of “solve-the-puzzle” allure for trained building professionals with idle curiosity to spare.

Check out the entire poll here, and sign a petition calling for a new investigation into the collapse of Building 7 here.

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  • 5live5

    I guess I’ll be the first on this. did anybody hear that the million muslim walk for tomorrow got a permit but the two million biker ride did NOT?? This is an insult to not only every true American, but to every one of the families that had people die in the twin towers on 9/11!

    • Elvis Presley

      Since when do you need a permit for free speech and assembly???

      • 5live5

        I agree 100% Elvis. Just saw it on the news and wanted to make sure ALL knew about it!

      • Jim S

        You don’t. The permit was to allow them to ride through the city without stopping at lights. They will still do the ride, they will just have to stop at lights, which will take them all day to get through DC. They should tie up traffic for miles and hours.

    • David Rice

      freaking makes me want to puke. this administration is helping regimes come to power that turn around and start murdering christians , but here in this country , we are told to shut up and are not allowed to say Islam is a bs religion

    • Gib74

      The bikers are going anyways! = ]

  • Hoosier Daddy

    This explains how Obama won. Waaay too many Americans are shallow, gullible chumps.

  • mary beardslee

    Jet fuel Cannot melt steal-it cannot burn steal. So what really happened? Come on we all really know

    • 5live5

      Well Mary, one thing that nobody seems to be willing to realize is that the whole airframe of that jetliner is made of a magnesium alloy. while JP4 will not burn steel or melt it magnesium burning will definitely weaken steel. combined with air in force, it will definitely MELT steel. It will also ignite at a low enough temp to be ignited by JP4.

      • Oldmonkey

        With enough heat, vapor and oxidizer or oxygen everything is capable of burning or exploding; with or without a spark. What I’d like to see is a reasonable explanation of the obvious demise of the buildings. Explanation of why everyone didn’t leave the buildings immediately when the buildings were hit needs to be given as well. How terrorists not interested in airplane take off and landing weren’t identified is incredible.

        • Gib74

          You CANNOT deny a muslim the chance to do whatever they want. It’s ‘racist’ to say they cannot take the classes. There are a lot of people in the universities who only take parts of courses.

          I’m sure they were picked up a bit, but just like the Hood shooter, the government agents were not allowed to do anything about what might be going on since no crime was committed.

          Like the RulesOrEngagement in the military, we were not allowed to shoot back until they shoot AT us. By then it’s usually too late though. = [

          • Oldmonkey

            Though all aren’t that way, there are far too may that are. Ironically many are dirty blonde hair and green eyed whose ancestors who were Buddhist or Hindi. There were lots of Muslim Crusaders; now you know why Hindu’s take 10 pounds of Muslim flesh as a knee jerk reaction. Ever read about Timur the Lame, sometimes called Tamerlane? He was much different in real life than in Poe’s poem.

        • 5live5

          This I will agree with you on, there were many screw-ups in this tragedy. I believe they actually thought nothing could bring the buildings down. Seems they were wrong!

          • Oldmonkey

            Though not in specific fuels, I am reasonably aware of the fire triangle which basically never say never. Thanks for confirming my suspicion regarding magnesium. I think the Japanese Zero designed by Hughes was Western countries turned down because of the magnesium in its air frame. To this day I think it was one of the best fighter craft of WWII

      • Quester55

        If Those Jets where made of PURE Magnesium, You just Might have been correct, Yet in this case, You’d be wrong!
        In the case of the towers, 90% of the 1inch thick Hard steel Frames where built up Along the Outer walls, Where as the main Fuselodge of the jets where inbetween those frames, Being in the middle of the floors. However, ALL LAB TEST conducted Later, show that their wasn’t enougth heat generated to cause those towers to collasp in on itself!
        However, ALL enginears do agree that an CONTROLLED BLAST could cause such struchter failure!

        • sotiredoflies13

          Anyone that cares, and pulls their head out of the sand,AND uses such heads enclosed brain, knows that a couple of aluminum airplanes could NEVER have done what happened on 9/11. Most obvious, was building # 3!
          Where are the news reporters?
          sotiredoflies

          • Quester55

            Most of those new Reports, are located on You-Tube & other locations around the world, As Our Own Government has tried to Censor Any & all, New Evidences that crop up now & then.
            For example; Remember that INVISIBLE 727 or 747?
            That we were told Crashed into the Pentagon?, Where is it?!, How would that GRASSY, GREEN LAWN, go unharmed, when that INVISIBLE JET Engines BLEW UP!??
            The Tires that they where showing off, came from a MUCH Smaller JET.
            The Paint on the Tail Section, Looks like RED ZINC OXIDE, An Heavy undercoat used on Steel, to help to prevent rust, & WOULD NEVER be Used on a Passenger JET!
            and the buildings Glass on that side ( Bullet proof or Not) Would have been blown out by the Concussion from the Blast, yet their still in their frames, without so much as a Scratch!
            No, their are way too many unanswered questions about this, ” Home Grown”, affair to suit me.
            I do know, that in the History of War Tactics
            Some rulers have sacrificed their people (in Secret) to anger the people that where not willing to go to war, thus the rulers got the war they wanted & would prod his people with constant reminders, of the suffering they just received from Their Non-existent Enemies!
            In This one Case(That I Know Of) Ex-President Bush, Had to have given the Order to Take Down those Towers & Have the Blame laid at Iran’s Feet!
            And Now OBAMA is attempting to Do It Again with Syria!
            And as to their Friends in RUSSIA, It makes you wonder, if we’re going to see a New Year or Answer that old Question: Is Their Life After Death??

        • 5live5

          Ok mr. pro, you just believe that if you want, I couldn’t care one bit. I’m only a 24 year certified welder and worked on aircraft for over eight years. I have seen aircraft burn and saw what it did to things it came in contact with.

          • Charlie

            Well ,,, certified welder,,, what do you use to cut cast iron with?? and can you weld a Mag’ airplane wheel ,if it happens to crack??

          • 5live5

            Well Charlie, about thirty seven years ago I welded a magnesium Canoe with tig using Argon! the argon, being an inert gas will not let the magnesium burn. Cast iron will not cut with an oxy/acetylene torch because of the high carbon content, but it can be cut with a SAW! It can also be welded with 680 nickel steel rod using arc.

          • Charlie

            Welding magnesium Canoe’s DOEs NOT ”'”Meet”” FAA repair “”Specs””,,, Aircraft wheels , mag or alum CANNOT be welded AND still be “”Airworthy””… you are right about the cast iron ,,,BUT,,, a air arc will cut cast iron faster than a saw,,, and cast iron can be welded with any HI strength rod , such as 8018 or higher…

          • 5live5

            you weld cast iron with 8018 without stress relieving it and it will crack sure as hell.With 680 rod all you have to do it peen it and that will be enough of a stress relief. 8018 you would have to preheat it or it will migrate so much carbon to the weld pool it will crack like glass when it cools!

          • Charlie

            I made no mention of the conditions of metal treatment before welding and while cooling……………

          • 5live5

            Just like I made no mention of aircraft wheels in my post on welding magnesium. I just stated it can be welded, I didn’t say it would be air worthy! oh, and your statement below about the steel being red hot and not melting? Carbon starts migrating in steel before it gets red hot. When carbon migrates in steel it gets weak. When steel gets weak it can and quite often does, collapse!

      • Charlie

        Your metal ignorance is getting gross ,,, call Boeing and ask how many of their airplane parts are magnesium alloy…. Aluminum alloy is a far different metal than magnesium … Not to mention red hot steel IS NOT melting or burned … Also most aluminum alloy is “”Tempered” to T-4 or T-6….

        • 5live5

          Gee Charlie, magalum is a magnesium aluminum alloy.

          • Charlie

            Bull crap is a alloy also but missing the metal … Give us the number of any Boeing airplane built of magalum …

        • 5live5

          BTW, I also have two years of college level metallurgy! Ferris state college, Big Rapids, Michigan.

    • gregsmom

      Are you kidding? How the heck do you think they get steel into the forms for beams and car parts and all? They heat it ! They heat it to the point where it bends, or to liquid steel to put into forms. High heat will melt just about everything including humans.

    • Frank Staples

      Most firemen would rather fight fire in a good wood construction than in a steel trussed construction. Steel bends or melts at a fairly low temp. The jet fuel definitely had enough heat to weaken the structure.

      • Robbie

        Not to mention the huge fireball explosions from those almost full jet fuel tanks.

      • Charlie

        It’s the heat “soak” time that is needed to weaken the steel ,,, how much time did it take for the twin towers to come down???BINGO!!! the towers were blown down NOT melted down……….

        • Frank Staples

          Negative Charlie, Soak time might be important for low temps but these were high temps and remember that the fires burned hot for those few hours before collapse. And remember that the strength was the outer skin. Once the fuel was inside the building the outer strength was no longer an issue. Buildings with heavy concrete floors pancake under their own weight.

          • Charlie

            Well ,,, dummy ,,, how long did it take After the first so called airplane hit ? what concrete floors “??? The inner main beam support were about 1 inch thick hi carbon steel … You don’t weaken them much with open flame JP-4… What did those hi-temps come from???

          • Frank Staples

            Forget the dummy comments. Where do you think the 18-24 inches of concrete dust came from? And the burning JP4 could easily create enough heat to spall and crack the concrete causing failure.

          • Charlie

            Did you read any report of concrete dust ?? Hi shear and speed explosives make dust out of most anything…. Go eat you apple pie but make sure to check for any worms .
            You are “”Brainwashed”” by the crapola dust fall out ….

          • Frank Staples

            Ok, since you don’t know where the concrete dust was then apparently you know nothing about the incident except your nutjob conspiracy theories. Do a little research and then come back and we’ll see if we can discuss the incident intelligently.

          • Frank Staples

            And maybe, just maybe, if you read the report you’ll find that there was NOTHING said about energetic materials in the residue.

          • Frank Staples

            Oh, and Chuckie, since you care to keep arguing temps with other people are you aware that a common house fire can exceed fifteen hundred degrees??? Did you know that our turnout gear will melt in that kind of temp????

          • Charlie

            Sure ,,,BUT,,, that’s under special fuel and draft conditions ,,, MY common wood burning stove will reach a EGT of about 800 F IF?? I don’t set it and control the draft…

          • Frank Staples

            No Charlie, that is a common structure that burns today…nothing special, no fuels but furnishings, no draft except the air that gets in. Since you want to argue every point with a twenty two year fireman can I suggest that you run your hiney to the closest fire department and volunteer for a few years so you can correct your mis-conceptions.

          • Charlie

            You’re assuming that you have more knowledge of fire because of being a fireman… Clue :: Science is Science,,, it only changes as the conditions of subject matter change… Would you believe I was “Fire Crew Boss” at 19 teen years old for the US Forest Service ……………..

          • Frank Staples

            I salute your service but you should know that a forest fire doesn’t have the same behavior as a structure fire. Nor the same characteristics. And the forest fires we fight here in N.C. are not the same fires that are fought out West.

          • Frank Staples

            I salute your service but you should know that a forest fire doesn’t have the same behavior as a structure fire. Nor the same characteristics. And the forest fires we fight here in N.C. are not the same fires that are fought out West.

          • Charlie

            What “”Expert”” investigation was made at the scene or a few days after???? NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Frank Staples

            Once again you are showing that you are grossly uninformed. The scene was initially treated as a crime scene and ultimately every ounce of residue was sifted and searched. There are still a thousand souls unaccounted for.

          • Quester55

            Not to mention Why the Side of the Tower that was Struck , Why didn’t it Buckle & bend in Half, Instead of Falling Down as it Did?
            Also a Point that Few if Any Ever Raise; What about that COUNTER WEIGHT at the TOP of Both Towers? how is it that the, ” 250,000 TONS of Concrete Block, Didn’t roll of to one side, thus Tilting the Tower?
            I.M.O., This WAS AN INSIDE JOB, PULLED OFF To START A WAR NO ONE WANTED, 24 hours before this ACTION took Place!

      • Quester55

        Frank, To bad you didn’t have the Teachers I had in School, or you would have been taught some simple Facts, Such as – Every Kind of Steel & their Alloys, have their own Melting Points, According to Their Thicknesses & Types.
        For Example, 6 to 8 inch thick Iron Pots, are used in Steel-Mills to Pour Mouton Metals into Molds.
        A Cast-Iron, ladle 1/8 inch thick, Can Hold, Melted Lead, Aluminum, Tin, copper, Gold, Silver, Zinc & many other Soft Metals, Each one on this list, Has their own MELTING TEMP,

        As for those Towers, Something had to be Added to the Mix to Cause most of the Damage. That is If YOU THROW OUT ALL PHYSICS & Forget that those TOWERS came Straight DOWN as one would expect in a CONTROLLED BLAST!

        • Frank Staples

          Then where is the energetic material residue?? None found! And it’s just luck I guess that nobody heard the explosion from your blast and they were timed to go off after the planes struck!! The guys from NYFD apparently don’t think it was a “controlled blast” so where is your confidential material coming from??

    • perry

      Mary do you the melting point of steal?Do you know how hot jet fuel burns?Now to what really happened you can tell us so please do!

      • 5live5

        melting point is approximately 2400* while the ignition point of magnesium is 634* and it burns at approximately 3400 to 4000 degrees. That 4000* degrees is almost twice the melting point of steel! Since the maximum burn temp of JP4 is 6670* it could ignite the magnesium and melt the steel!

        • Charlie

          Your temp’ figures are C’ or F’ ??? at any rate your JP4 figure is way, way HI ,,, most jet engines exhaust is about 5 to 670 F’,,, even those temps are created by Very special “Conditions” ,,, NOT,,, just open air burning ….

          • 5live5

            I did a simple search to check my figures and even wickipedia whom some here seem to use a lot says max temp is 6670*F

          • Charlie

            Well,, tell us what condition created that temp? A normal jet engine will be destroyed at six thousand degree F in just a few minutes run time… IF? you could get it that hot…

        • Quester55

          The on-sight reports & Evidence, doesn’t back up your theories, nor does the Physics!

          The Framework of Each building, formed a Bird-Cage Effect, that being, The load Bearing Struts where All on the Outer Walls, Yet Your statement Could only be true IF the towers where Built like The EMPIRE STATE Building, With the Main Structural Steel being located in & near the Center!
          As for your statement;Since the maximum burn temp of JP4 is 6670* it could ignite the magnesium and melt the steel! ” Are you speaking of, ” F* or of C* “, ?

      • Quester55

        Perry, While in the NAVY, I was stationed on the U.S.S. HANCOCK – CVA-19, An Aircraft Carrier or Bird-farm to you enlisted, As a Demonstration/Training Exorcize, A 1 inch thick tank, 6 X 10 X 3, was filled half way full of Jet Fuel that goes into our Fighters, (A Higher Octane than Passenger jets use)
        and a piece of a damaged fighter’s wing, was added to the mix & lit! It took about 10 Minutes for the wing to catch, however it didn’t burn like one would expect wood or paper to burn, no it took a lot of time. All the While, The Temps were being Monitored & that 1/2 inch thick Steel tank never got over 600 Degrees, the Fuel Burned out & The Wing was Dumped Overboard, As once Alum./Magnesium . Catches Fire, It Generates it’s own O2 & Rarely goes out!
        Perry, At best, those outer Building Steel Beams, may have warped, but Burn, as the American citizens have been lied to,
        I don’t think so, unless they had a helping hand.

  • sotiredoflies13

    really should identify & PROSECUTE those who are Really the perpertrators of so many murdered civilians there and in the middle east on Sept 11,as well as the hundreds of thousands suffering & dying still to this day , all because of ???
    Time for the real truth..

    • Quester55

      It’s been close to 50 years that J.F.K. Was Assassnated, Yet to this day, more & more Secrets are coming to the surface, reveling just another piece to the puzzle, why?

      • sotiredoflies13

        Just yesterday, talking to my 82 yr old mom, “when have we ever had a decent prez of this country?” JFK, and they shot him DEAD!

      • sotiredoflies13

        And as far as MORE secrets being exposed, well that’s pretty much expected, when everything TPTB do is either a LIE or CLASSIFIEFD. snowden, manning, (you get my idea?)

      • perry

        so none of them will go to jail

        • 5live5

          The true facts about Kennedy’s death will never come out till all the conspirators are dead of a natural life.

  • native blood

    Building 7 is an obvious controlled demo job. It would be of greater concern as to why the Bin Laden family was ushered out of the country when the rest of the nation was grounded. What happened to the 200 Mosaad agents that were apprehended during the event and caught filming it? What happened to the surveillance tapes that were confiscated by the FBI. The events leading up to the hi-jackings are dismally known and It wouldn’t hurt to know why TSA got so powerful as a result of this cursed event. Why was the air force called away from the airspace the terrorists were flying in? Where was all the titanium engine parts and debris at the pentagon? So many unanswered questions and the building 7 incident is merely one of a wealthy owner using the crisis to his advantage to collect insurance.

    • Robbie

      I don’t know if it was called building 7 or not but one nearby building was, in fact, demolished because it had been badly damaged by the falling debris from the targets. I wouldn’t read too much into that. In fact I wouldn’t read ANYTHING into that.

      • Jack

        Robbie:

        The building you are talking about is Building 7.

        The problem is that Building 7 collapsed several hours after the other buildings collapsed. The building did suffer a fire and some damage from debris but to say it was badly damaged is probably stretching things.

        The official position is that it collapsed on its own from the fire.. Skeptics say the building was demolished. Three reasons that cause many people to be skeptical are: (1) the owner, in a a well documented interview given the afternoon of 9-11, said that the building was going to be “pulled” (meaning demolished); (2) the building fell like a building being demolished by explosives (it fell in an almost free fall manner into its own footprint); and (3) never before, nor since 9-11, has a steel structured building ever collapsed due to fire. The two towers did not collapse because of the damage from the impact of the planes. Supposedly they collapsed because of the damage the resulting fires did to the buildings’ steel framework.

        Who’s right, I don’t know but the situation does raise questions about what really happened.

        • Charlie

          jack, Robbie, et al ,,,
          Any dim wit “Demolition Expert” will tell you ,,,if he will talk at all ,,, that all 3 buildings were blown up or down or both by “Demolition Experts” … AND those “”Drone”” airplanes had little to nothing to do with the Twin towers coming down… The big question is ,,, who gave the “Orders” to plant the explosives ???

          • Robbie

            Barak Obama?

            (I’ll bet 75% of readers here would believe that too).

          • Charlie

            IF? you can’t show some science book evidence for what you think you know , you may not know what you think you know… IF? you are unaware that you are unaware? how will you become aware unless you check your “Cognitive Dissonance”? and “”Brainwashing”???

          • 5live5

            Charlie, stop and think. do you have any idea how many people would have had to be involved in that? and not one iota of talk?? not even our government could accomplish that! how do you explain where all the bodies of the people on those jets went to? I suppose their families are lying as well? 15 and 16 year olds are “missing” their dads – not really??? Drones? Yeah right!

          • Charlie

            Yeah all secret ops have a vast number of people that are being paid well to keep their mouth shut… What bodies?
            Do you or any one you know have any contacts with the families ? You don’t know as much as you “Think” you know…

          • 5live5

            Gee, Charlie, I guess all those people standing at the memorial yesterday in PA were paid actors???

          • Charlie

            The PA airplane is the only real plane that crashed after being shot down … that’s why there was not much left ,,,but,,, even then not much investigation by “Aviation Experts” ……..

          • 5live5

            Then I guess the relatives at the pentagon that were mourning their loved ones that died in the crash were paid actors then?

          • Charlie

            Well ,,, dummie ,,, the pentagon people were real ,,, but ,, the so called airplane that hit the pentagon was not ,,, it did NOT even leave a foot print….

          • Robbie

            O.K., Barak Obama gave the orders to demolish the buildings!

        • Robbie

          Large airlines virtually filled with jet fuel crash into buildings and then explode in giant fire balls. It was not just a fire – these were powerful explosions plus fire.

  • Quester55

    Only a complete fool would believe evrything that our Dishonest Government Bums had to say about 9/11.
    In fact, there were way to many unanswered questions that where never answered, to make me ever believe what our leaders claim had happened. Too many test, conducted by experts, that where giving GAG ORDERS, not to talk about or reviel their findings, to ANYONE!
    Coupled that with the blantent lies from the Pentagon, And the whole mess STINKS OF A COVER UP!

    • peter

      What about the evidence that was destroyed and the involvement of ” The Other Nineteen.” There are too many questions unanswered. When the message was sent to Bush that the towers were down, his expression of complicity was self evident, albeit some horror at what he had been complicit to.

      • Robbie

        I didn’t notice any “expression of complicity” on the President’s face. I think you are putting your own prejudice on what happened and on how he reacted.

    • Robbie

      So what exactly are all of those unanswered questions?

      • Charlie

        What base in Canada did those look alike drone “Airliners” planes that hit the twin towers , take off from ???

        • Robbie

          If there really were “look alike” planes that hit the towers one must wonder what happened to the four real planes and all the folks on board them. Where might those planes and all those people have gone – some secret base in Nevada?

          • 5live5

            Robbie, I know! They must be prisoners at area 51!!! the alien guards are keeping them and the other drones there!

          • Charlie

            Did you see any passenger list ? Can you get the phone number or any way to contact anyone that knew some one on those planes… The only real plane was shot down over Pennsylvania … Notice, all 4 so called planes wreakage parts were hauled away WITHOUT investigation … Does the FAA have any transponder numbers on record ??? next time you get a chance , take a peek inside the cockpit of a jet liner ,,,notice the center console it contains about a million bucks of tracking computers for that airplane………………

          • Robbie

            I have never met anyone who has been part of America’s space program. Does that mean the U.S. has not landed on the moon or that there is no International Space Station? Of course not although there are quite a few freaks who still maintain that the moon landing and the rest of the space programme is nothing more than a Hollywood production.

          • Charlie

            Well ?,,, has the CEG ever lied to us before ? IF? you believe any info coming from the CEG ,,,, without checking it “”Lawfully”” , Scientifically and any other way you can??? then you are a typical 99% brainwashed nitwit…

          • Robbie

            Look, here’s the low down on the planes and the World Trade Center on 9/11. Hundreds and thousands of New Yorkers actually SAW the freakin’ planes crash in to those buildings. The planes never landed at their destination or anywhere else. The passengers (hundreds of people) have never been seen again. There is video of the planes crashing in to the buildings and exploding. I don’t know what other evidence the sceptics think they need.

          • Charlie

            Well ,,, what you see ain’t always what is,,, did anyone see the “N” number on any of those so called airplane ???

          • Robbie

            So for you those four planes were NOT involved in the attacks of 9/11. IF that were really the case can you please simply state where those four planes ended up? I really want to see the answer to this. We know they took off from Boston and elsewhere and we know that they and the passengers have never been seen again so where are they now or what happened to them?

    • perry

      Yes they did cover up now we must look at the joint chiefs they set around their table with all their metals on their chest and do nothing but talk I would bet that none of them has ever shot a gun in a war in there life

  • IBCAMN

    if you believe what the gov’t says happened on 9/11,you are a bigger fool than obama!

  • perry

    All of you people are saying that bush was be hind the fall of the buildings.