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Political Elite Reacts To Bin Laden’s Death

May 3, 2011 by  

Political elite reacts to bin Laden's deathPolitical leaders have responded to the news of Osama bin Laden's death by praising President Barack Obama and the United States military, as well as commemorating the victims of the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

On May 1, Obama confirmed that the al-Qaida leader had been killed by a U.S. military operation in Pakistan. According to media reports, the Central Intelligence Agency presided over the raid, which was authorized by Obama after it became clear that military personnel had located bin Laden's precise whereabouts.

During a rare national address on Sunday night, Obama proclaimed that "justice has been done." He also revealed that the first tip exposing bin Laden's location surfaced last August.

Former President George W. Bush, who launched the War on Terror nearly a decade ago following the Sept. 11 attacks, released a statement congratulating Obama and declaring "a victory for America."

"The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done," said Bush.

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) commended Obama, Bush, the U.S. Armed Forces and the intelligence community for their efforts in hunting down bin Laden, while Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called his death a "significant development in our fight against al-Qaida." 

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  • Cawmun Cents

    The deceased Bin Laden has been a target of interest lo these twenty years now…in fact the #1 target of interest.So why is Obama Bin Yomama trying to take any credit for his demise?Is it like the troops want to work harder for him?Probably not.Is it that the opportunity just arose?Probably not.Does the fact that thousands of college age students from all the big cities knew of Bin Ladens demise before everyone else,and already had their flags and photo ops ready seem strange?Probably.But remember one thing about POTUS,he doesnt do anything that isnt a publicity stunt.Simply put it(the announcement) was set up to ignite support for POTUS from the get go.Nifty little plan huh?It was personally sickening for me to see something that contrived happening right before my eyes.But hey,this administration has done this type of thing from day one.You would think that they could figure out how phony they look to anyone who isnt an OBAMA WORSHIPPER,but they just dont get it.Their propaganda machine is rusty and abrasive,and they cant even tell from the oodles of fawning college twerps,out to booster the POTUS’s campaign.What a joke.What a perversion of good taste this faux leader and his band of moronic merrypersons are.They actually think they are sharp…..(un—-ing believeable.)

    • Kinetic1

      Cawmun,
      Perhaps you forgot this headline from 2006,
      “WASHINGTON, July 3 — The Central Intelligence Agency has closed a unit that for a decade had the mission of hunting Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants, intelligence officials confirmed Monday.”
      Bush, after making a big deal about hunting him down, gave up on finding Bin Laden. Then there was this story from CNN in November of 2008,
      “President-elect Barack Obama wants to renew the U.S. commitment to finding al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, according to his national security advisers.”
      That is why the President has received praise.
      “We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al Qaeda. That has to be our biggest national security priority,” Obama said during the presidential debate on October 7.”
      He made a promise not unlike Bush, and he followed through. Of course the real credit goes to American Intelligence and the brave soldiers who completed the mission, and the President gets a nod for his decision to commit our forces to this goal. It’s all very common and it’s not the first time by any means, but then you already knew that, didn’t you?

      • BigBadJohn

        SHHHHH conservatives HATE facts.

        Lets not forget the backlash that Obama got from the right when he increased troop presence in Afghanistan.

        You know there is an election around the corner. Obama is trying to show the rhetoric from the right for what it really is – Shrill shrieking.

        First the BC that really turned up the volume on the true haters, now getting Americas number one enemy that the right simply gave up on…..

        • http://n/a john robison

          “The right gave up on” you guys are really that asleep at the wheel…If I was you I would do what the rest of the left is doing celebrating his death..keep your mouth shut and enjoy the truth OBL is no longer..ok let this one go forget the bs of who is or who isnt we the people got OBL the soldiers,the CIA, The White House, and the Citizens of the USA.. for once celebrate with out the BS this is to important to point fingers or point hate or tumours at enjoy!!!!

          • Kinetic1

            John,
            First off, don’t misquote me (or anyone else for that matter.) I didn’t say the right gave up, I said Bush did. In his debate with Kerry, Bush said
            “And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.”
            Then after the election he shut down the CIA team tasked with finding Bin Laden.

            Second, the reason for making this point is that there are people like Cawmun Cents saying things like
            “So why is Obama Bin Yomama trying to take any credit for his demise?” Isn’t it cute the way he denigrates the President? Don’t you just love how he links the President’s name to Bin Laden’s?

            Look, I’m glad that Bin Laden is finally out of the picture. I would have preferred that he had been caught and brought to trial, but I’ll take what I can get. As to the politics, I would have been just as happy if he had been caught under Bush’s watch. Even happier since it would have might have meant an earlier end to the war. I’m just sick and tired of some people on the right who can’t deal with any success our nation has under President Obama’s watch. And I’m not suggesting that everything good that happens is due to Obama, but they need to learn to accept it when it is.

          • BigBadJohn

            As to the politics, I would have been just as happy if he had been caught under Bush’s watch.

            *****************

            Amen, that was truly one of the reasons I hated Bush. First he whipped everyone into a frenzy to get the people who attacked us, but let Bin Laden simply walk away. He then tried to convince us that Saddam was really the problem not Bin Laden. Then later – as you point our – “And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.”

            IMHO if he Bush had killed or captured Bin Ladan at Tora Bora, the American people would have felt that justice was served and never supported invading Iraq. I think that is why Bush let him slip away.

          • Jay

            Reagan, Clinton, Bush sr./jr, Obama, all puppets! Left and Right, you people all miss the point! Enjoy the puppet show!!!

        • 2WarAbnVet

          Sorry, but this is complete rot! The complaint was that it took Obama some four months to send the troops that were requested and needed immediately.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          BIG BJ
          you want facts?? Here you go. Fact: Nobummer PROMISED to get us out of Iraq and no go! Fact: Nobummer PROMISED to close GITMO and again, no go! Good thing, too, as part of this info came from there!! Fact: Nobummer wanted to charge Bush with crimes for Waterboarding,but it was proven that part of this info on BL came from prisoners that were waterboarded!! Fact: Nobummer PROMISED if we passed the stimulous, that the unemployment would never go above 8% and here it is almost 10%!!! I could go on, but I’m getting tired of slapping you around!!

          • Jana

            Joe H,
            GREAT POST!

          • BigBadJohn

            I agree – those are the main problems that I have with Obama. He did not do anything that he promised to do. By getting Bin Laden he is using this as his justification for not doing them.

      • Cawmun Cents

        First of all,I notice that you didnt quote sources from the supposed article from 2006.You didnt state the author,or the actual news outlet either.This gives me time to pause and reflect that Bush was a pariah to the entirety of journalism(letists that they are)in 2006.So I call B.S. to your”article”.Secondly as I stated in the previous post above,it has been priority one since before 9/11/01,to capture or more likely kill Bin Laden.There was never any lapse in that goal.Finally having good intelligence on his whereabouts,was the likely reason anyone was able to bring about his demise.Mr.Obama gets onthe podium and reads from a teleprompter,what his speechwriter,has written for him.Taking credit for this is like me taking credit for the mechanic fixing my car.I may have brought the car to him,but he really did all the work,and deserves the credit,not me.Do you get it lefty? Dont answer…it was a rhetorical question.

        • karolyn

          And all other presidents didn’t have speechwriters??? And how do you know he doesn’t write at least some of his speeches?

          • JC

            He didn’t even write his own books. The guy is a phoney on every possible level. But there are some very simple people that will buy everything their told to buy, and chant, and praise…disgusting.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            karolyn,
            ere is the “lady nobummer while people in the south are suffering from the tornadoes??? First Lady Mrs. Bush was in New Orleans after Katrina handing out clothes, food, and supplies, even hugging people that needed baths and were filthy!!! The sign of a true LADY!!!!

          • libertytrain

            JoeH – that’s interesting, while I was watching obama at Tuscaloosa and he did hug a woman who had reached out for him, his wife, stood in the background and actually looked annoyed by the whole thing. Perhaps she reached out to someone somewhere but not on the coverage I was watching. She kept back and did not approach the people as Mrs. Bush did oftentimes.

          • John /West Virginia

            Good call JC. Karolyn: FYI, The radical Bill Ayers & the help of idiot’s wife wrote the book’s,
            Dreams From My Father & The Audacity of Hope

        • Eddie47d

          Bob Livingston should rename his site “How do we bash Obama today” or “How can we stick it to Obama” or just plain “Today’s conspiracies”. How about ” “More sinister views from the right”. Oh well,let the battle continue.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Now do you have to bash a person with a deficiency of character like the current POTUS?He bashes himself.The fact that I can see it and you cannot is only due to your complete worship of the man.

          • JC

            You’re right Eddie. “bashing Obama” is a little depraved…kind of like picking on a retarded kid. So I guess we should just stick to pointing out that he is an imposter and an anti-American Communist and not bring his complete lack of character or inability to form complete sentences without a teleprompter, into the situation.

            Good call Eddie. :)

          • Eddie47d

            Thanks JC but why do you all fail to realize how much G Bush used a teleprompter.Why is this glaring error on your part so hard to comprehend? Selective B.S.?

          • Amy Beth

            Amazingly enough Bob Livingston didn’t bash Obama in this little piece. It’s all the people that seem to following him that just refuse to admit Obama did something right. Obama said there are things more important than politics. Too bad everyone doesn’t feel that way.

            By the way, Bush gave up on Bin Ladin saying he didn’t know where he was and that it wasn’t very important anymore.

          • JIBBS

            If you don’t like what you read here, go way, we don’t need you here to spout your bs.

          • JC

            Eddie47d says:

            May 3, 2011 at 11:21 am

            Thanks JC but why do you all fail to realize how much G Bush used a teleprompter.Why is this glaring error on your part so hard to comprehend? Selective B.S.?
            _____________________________________________________________________

            George Bush? You mean the former Globalist idiot that used to be the President that was at least from the United States? I remember him…
            But I don’t get the comparison…why when we have a Kenyan Imposter masquerading as our President would I be worried about George Bush?
            “This just in”…he’s gone, done, kaput. ancient history, never coming back, an EX President….get it? Done! so what exactly is your point Eddie?
            Or do you just like to type crap that doesn’t matter at all to try and take the focus off the cancer in the White House?

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Why are you on this site if you hate anyone who disagrees with you?

          • bob wire

            Well Eddie, ~ while Bob Livingston does enjoy stirring the pot at times, he can’t be held responsible for all the mutants that show up.

            That it takes on the atmosphere of a lynch sporting green teeth showing up, is misfortune, but it’s good to be aware of these people and understand them and how to contend with them as they are with us, among us, a part of “us”.

            They are the people the GOP depends on to lure into voting against their own best self interest, this alone makes them very “special” and unlike most Americans. They are not ordinary Americans but “self adsorbed” Americans that consider themselves as virtuous and entitled above all others. They hold great resentment and grudges while holding tight to the Lord. They are “reactionary” cocked and ready for the puppet master to give direction. They only need some victim to look down on to elevate themselves. The Puppet master feeds their hunger to act out and assigns them the target and the reason. ~ It’s “O”, it’s always been “O” , his wife, mail man, friends , his family , his appointments, his decisions, his life, his skin pigment, his education. ~ and if anyone attempt to say ,”hey!” that’s enough of that ~ then you must love him! So their hate is transferred to you! Then they will attack you, Like a hungry pack of wild dogs. ~ Be ready for the dogs!

            and that’s just the way things are today ~ These same people defend 43 in much the same way ~ being crass , loud, disrespectful, they are just bullies really ~ socially clumsy bullies. Quick to shout down descending opinions.

            You can’t compromise or back-down, leaving us to go toe to toe ~ but only on issues that are important ~ as they wish to argue about things that have no value purely for the sake of diversion and misery of it.

            How can it possibly be any clearer to anyone at this point, two and half years into a four year term.

          • Kinetic1

            Bob Wire,
            Well put.

          • JC

            bob wire says:

            May 3, 2011 at 10:00 pm

            Well Eddie, ~ while Bob Livingston does enjoy stirring the pot at times, he can’t be held responsible for all the mutants that show up.
            ____________________________________________________________________-
            And typically Bob Wire and his ego sit in judgement of all of us “bad patriots”. I say typical because it is the most basic of building blocks in the liberal house.

            “We’re all good and we have all the answers and you must all live by our rules.”

            As opposed to, Be responsible for your self and your actions, enjoy the liberties that God or nature granted you.

            I’ll take the second choice and the advocates of the first, along with their inflated ego’s. can drop dead.

          • Eddie47d

            Time is the one with the inflated ego not Bob.

        • Kinetic1

          Cawmun,
          That particular article was from the N.Y. Times, but I could have quoted the U.K. Guardian or ABC. It’s not a liberal smear but a simple fact; the CIA under the Bush administration decided to stop concentrating on Bin Laden, shut down the task force and redirect their operatives to wider view of al Qaeda. Add to that Bush’s quote from the 2004 presidential debates,
          “And, again, I don’t know where he is. I — I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.”
          and my “B.S.” as you put it seems to hold pretty well.

          Regarding your rather simplistic view of the President’s role and his responsibility for Bin Laden’s death, reports state that the President was given an 50% to 80% chance that Bin aden was at this site. His advisors were split between bombing the site and sending in a team. Obama gave it a night and then called for the insurgent approach. It was risky, but the casualties would likely be much lower. Yep, just like deciding to have your car fixed. And what if it hadn’t gone so well? What if the whole squad had been killed or if Bin Laden had escaped? Clinton was widely criticized when his air strike failed to kill Bin Laden. Was it his fault that Bin Laden escaped? Carter sent troops in to save the hostages, but the operation failed and Carter was blamed. Not the branches of the military that failed to work together, but the man who gave the mission a green light. So is that how it works? If a Democratic President calls for a mission and it succeeds it has nothing to do with him, but if it fails it’s all his fault? Now THAT’S Cawmun Cents!

          • Cawmun Cents

            My point is that making it about the succuess or failure of a president is a moot point.The POTUS had little to do with the eventual undertaking.His(Bin Ladens)time was up and his usefulness for finding Al Quaeda operatives was over.They terminated his contract and wallah! A photo/speech op for a guy who gets way too much press to begin with.Its only my opinion.I fail to see the merit in politicizing it…thats all.

          • Jana

            Now it is coming out, according to the Times that Obama couldn’t make a decision right away. It took him 16 hours to decide and there wasn’t a discussion on whether to bomb or to send in the SEALS. It was always to send in a team.
            Sounds like maybe Obama hasn’t changed after all. He made NO quality decisions except that it should happen, probably after asking Soros and the gangstas from Chicago, as well as Michelle.
            Oh poor thing, he really wanted to be the big hero. HA!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            kenetic,
            no, actually Clintoon was more widely criticized for refusing osama on a silver platter and saying he has done nothing against the US!!!

          • Kinetic1

            Jana,
            Which “Times” is that? I’ve seen many reports and none suggested that the President “couldn’t decide.”

          • Jana

            Kinetic1,
            Yeah right, he could decide, it just took himn 16 hours. Haven’t you been listening and watching?

          • Jana

            Kinetic1,
            Read DanAz post below. He has all of the facts laid out for you.

          • Kinetic1

            Jana,
            What DanAZ has laid out is an out of context fact or two. Laid out in a more meaningful manner it seems like nothing more than taking a night to weigh out the risks to our men and the likelihood of success.

            “Administration officials split over whether to launch the operation, whether to wait and continue monitoring until they were more sure that Bin Laden was really there….”

            My understanding is that the gave the odds at 50 to 80%. Since it there are questions as to wether any of our surveillance teams ever reported seeing Bin Laden at the site, that seems like something to consider.

            “[Defense Secretary Robert] Gates was skeptical about a helicopter assault, calling it risky, and instructed military officials to look into aerial bombardment using smart bombs….”

            Seems to me that someone here suggested that air strikes were never considered. Hmmm, I guess they know more than the folks who were there.

            “Last Thursday [] Mr. Obama met again with his top national security officials…. Around the table, the group went over and over the negative scenarios. There were long periods of silence, one aide said. And then, finally, Mr. Obama spoke: “I’m not going to tell you what my decision is now — I’m going to go back and think about it some more.” But he added, “I’m going to make a decision soon.”

            So there’s your context. A meeting where the Presidents top security advisors went over numerous potentially negative scenarios and what does the President do? He takes a night to consider all the options. Wow, what kind of leader does that?!

            “Sixteen hours later, he had made up his mind. Early the next morning, four top aides were summoned to the White House Diplomatic Room. Before they could brief the president, he cut them off. “It’s a go,” he said. The earliest the operation could take place was Saturday, but officials cautioned that cloud cover in the area meant that Sunday was much more likely.”

            So let’s see: if he had given the go ahead at the meeting they might have been able to move forward sooner, but the same cloud cover might also have been an issue. I can’t say for certain, but it sounds like whether or not the had the 16 hours Sunday was still the likely time. Yep, Dan really laid it all out.

            (I apologize for having to post this twice.)

          • Jana

            Kinetic1,
            This will be the tird time I have tried to comment under this posting. It is giving me a hard time.
            I stated:
            Your understanding? You are going by news reports just like everyone else. What Dan Az reported is also what I heard too. I know that Obama FINALLY made a right decision, but having to wait 16 hours to make this decision after months of planning doesn’t give one much confidence in this Community Organizers abilities.
            Have a good day.

      • Augie D

        Publicity Rules! Everything has to do with public approval ratings in mind. Bush Jr. knew this when he quit looking for Bin Laden. His ratings were dropping right after committing the U.S. military in Iraq. Searching for a needle in a haystack was overtly expensive and time consuming.

        As is related in several books on 9-11, Bin Laden was never connected to the planning and execution of the attacks. There isn’t any paper trail connecting him to the crimes. The F.B.I. never listed 9-11 as a reason to catch Bin Laden. Only the attacks on the U.S.S. Cole, and an American Embassy in North Africa.

        That didn’t keep the U.S. Administration of 2001 to 2008 from publicizing Bin Laden as the ringleader.

        In similar fashion, the U.S. Administration used false intelligence to attack Iraq, and eventually succeed in having Saddam Hussein, put to death. As reported on N.P.R. broadcasts, while George Bush was negotiating with Saddam, asking him to release the weapons, or face an attack and force the surrender of such, the U.S. air-force was already making attack runs, taking out munition dumps, and radio towers in Iraq. Saddam’s answer to Bush was…”You have already made your decision”.

        It’s all for show! What the American public gets to see and hear, is no different than what Hitler told the Germans in 1938. Or what the Russian people were told by their chief leaders during the ‘cold-war’. All lies and propaganda. During Vietnam soldiers were coming back home telling what really happened there. Not the rhetoric that government wants its people to hear. We now face similar times, when the truth “will” come home. And it won’t be pretty!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Augie D,
          how old were you during Viet Nam???? Were you even born yet?? Yes, there was a lot of BS, and there was a lot of truth that the liberal press was twisting around to say what it wanted!! I was only there 18 months, but at least I was there, how about you???

          • Augie D

            Joe H. I’m 58, you can do the math. I was V.N. era, and there was the blind leading the blind then as is now. The government has an advantage over the general public and especially over their military. “They” say the people in N. Vietnam are bad guys, and everyone believes them. Or the Iraqis are scum, and every soldier runs off to kill them because they’re scum! The GMT. tells lies about what really is going on there so that we always look like the good guys. Home town media is only doing what they’ve been told to do. And any independent journalist puts his life in danger reporting anything different.

            You admitted that the media twisted things. It wasn’t the liberal press, it was every media outlet that is controlled by Big Government as well as Big Business. So what’s your point you agreed with my statement of twisting the truth, but offered no argument about Bin Laden or how the U.S. is above reproach when doing what they do best, support war, support killing innocents, and ruin other governments and countries.

            How about the Iran / Contra affair, the Nicaraguan Freedom Fighters under Regan’s term. Illegal wrangling of the constitution, selling arms to Iran through Israel, then send those profits to support out effort to suppress the Sandinista, who intended to create a a better society. They instituted a literacy program, health care.

            The U.S. supported Contras continued to violently attack both State and Civilian targets. That sound about right. The U.S. always has someone else do their ‘dirty work’!

            The list goes on and on. In more recent times, the expression came to be understood…’If you say the lie often enough, you begin to believe it!

          • BKWsr

            Augie D. you proved to me you didn’t have the slightest idea what you were talking about the minite you mentioned the Iran/Contra afair. Nicaraguan freedom fighters. If you were refering to the Sandnistas you are the biggest idiot alive, and yes I was there, I seen what they had done. The Sandnistas raped and killed all in their way. 3 yr. old baby girls included. They killed whole villiges to get their way. I bet you love the story of Che Guevara, What is a shame is what these people you like and support can’t do to you what they did to others. what even more sad is how many people out there who think like you.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Augie,
            Yeah, THEY said the viet cong and NVA were bad and I will still say it! How about a village chief that was tied to a tree and made to watch as they cut his unborn daughter out of his wife, of course without anesthesia! The only crime? The wife had a candy bar from the US troops that had patrolled through the ville earlier the same day!
            how about another woman that they strung up and broke every bone in her body with steel rods? Her Crime?? Wearing a gold cross around her neck!! Yeah, I’ll still say they were all a bunch of ba$tards and if that offends you, tough crap!!!

      • Bruce D.

        Kinetic 1, that is just total nonesense to say Bush gave up looking for Bin Larden. Do you really expect anyone will believe that nonsense. I know you carry Obama’s water but lets not get too far away from reality.

    • karolyn

      Like no other Pres. has or would have done the same thing. All Presidents use significant events to their benefit. So what’s the big deal? Just because this one is Obama? Can’t wait for him to do more good things and hear you still complaining that he either didn’t do it right or other such nonsense.

      • Doc Sarvis

        You forget that this site’s alias is theglassishalfempty.com

        • karolyn

          I love that!! :-)

          • Thamera

            Really karolyn, seems to me like you were just doing the most whining. lol

          • karolyn

            Where?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            TRY 7:04!!!

          • bob wire

            Hmm? ~ can’t you folks argue your position on the issues of the day without your opponent being hog ties and a printed concession speech in their hand?

            The whine and cheese comes from you, it appears it’s compliments “of the house” around here.

            I’m sorry that “O” has stolen a lot of your “thunder” of late, but I believe you should be getting use to it at this point in the game.

            You are not the “majority” you thought you were, you never were. These notions of being and representing the “majority of Americans” was only a well crafted illusion by money backer and special interest group that enjoy using you as a political tool, the noise,angry middle-class mob.

            When will you ever figure it out for yourselves?

        • Cawmun Cents

          The glass is always full,we do not live in a vaccum.When the liquid is gone there is still air in it.So dont try to put your observations on me please.You dont really know me.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Keep trying.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Keep Lying….

          • Amy Beth

            Next time you’re really thirsty drink a big glass full of air and see how that works out for you.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Better yet you try breathing or drinking without air and see how that works out for you……

          • Amy Beth

            Cawmun Cents
            Ha! Ha! That’s a knee slapper. You’re quite the comeback king there!

          • bob wire

            Right! In your case, your glass is so full, nothing else can ever be added.

        • bob wire

          Yea, Hanity on Fox was having a little difficulty yesterday presenting the News and not speak “O’s” name. ~ It erk’s him so!

          All I can tell you is ~ he wasn’t in IraQ! So we freed the Iraqi people , ~ went on a little 6 year sight seeing detour that started with a search for weapons of mass confusion.

          Never in the history of the world has such military might be used so ineffectually.

          There is little that can replace focused leadership that permits professional people to do the job assigned them and not micro-manage with middle men and soccer coaches with personal agendas.

          This compound was built for Usama in 2005 about the same time he went to ground and 43, ~ Bush publicly stated, he didn’t know where he was and it really didn’t matter as he was greatly disabled as an operational leader, suggesting there were bigger things afoot.

          It was that one little speech that turned me truly, seriously sour on 43 and the following 4 years only validated my belief.

          Oh well! with the exception of all the American lives lose and lives destroyed and seriously compromised,no arms , legs , eyes, hearing, widows, fatherless children and weeping mothers and Americans scurrying around wondering where all the money went and blaming everyone for the loss but themselves ~ it’s a good day to be a living American.

          Something good will come of all this but I doubt if we will be the ones to enjoy it.

          • BKWsr

            There are numerous accounts of military might being used ineffectually, buy the French, English, and US. Vietnam was a good Example. What is sad is what we are doing in Afgan is the same thing we did in Nam. We didn’t learn anything, and the dammed polititions are doing it again. Soldiers are not allowed to fire unless they have permission to fire. They have to prove beyond a dought it is the right person shooting at them. If they see someone with weapons they are not allowed to do anything untile fired upon. That is why we are losing so many soldiers. That is why we lost so many in Nam. That is why we will not win the day in Afgan.

          • Jana

            I really liked the post that libertytrain posted yesterday and am going to repeat it:
            ********
            libertytrain says:
            May 2, 2011 at 6:48 pm
            LOVE This Facebook posting:
            “Let’s be clear on this folks: OBAMA did NOT kill Bin Laden. An American soldier, who Obama just a few weeks ago was debating on whether or not to PAY, did. Obama just happened to be the one in office when our Soldiers finally found Bin Laden and took him out. This is NOT an Obama victory, but an AMERICAN VICTORY!!
            *************
            All of a sudden Obama is for the soldeirs? With his narccissitic personality he is for anyone (for the moment) that would make him look good.

          • Christin

            Love it, Jana. Thanks for sharing… missed that post.

            Thanks Liberty Train! That woould be the truth… nice work.

          • CJM

            bob: Exactly what ‘good’ do you think will come out of this that the rest of us won’t enjoy???? Obama does not deserve credit for what another President set out to do–just as Carter set out to have hostages freed and their freedom was withheld until a new President was installed, at least the successor had the integrity to give the credit to Carter. I think you are wrong–some of us are going to see the good: and that will be defeating obama and his agendas to further ruin this Great Nation of OURS.

          • Eddie47d

            That’s funny CJM; Everyone on this site bashes Carter and says he was a complete failure especially for that hostage crises situation. So are you revising history. Even I thought Carter could of and should have done more to retrieve the hostages.The good thing is that all those hostages came back safe and thankful. On this latest mission with Obama there were no casualties and it worked well. Be thankful for a change.

          • libertytrain

            Christin, Jana, that was posted on my Facebook page by a very lovely formerly German, now American, wife of a now retired American soldier -

          • bob wire

            What good might come of it? ~ The Arab people are coming out of the stone age where they have been kept by oppressive rulers and a backward thinking clergy . ~ Their women and children might be educated and with any luck at all, they might become citizens of the 21 century ~ or at least working to that end.

            “I think you are wrong–some of us are going to see the good: and that will be defeating obama and his agendas to further ruin this Great Nation of OURS.”

            By what and whom ? ~ or does that even matter to you? ~ my guess is “Not in the least” You are much like the Arab people in many ways~ only, ~ you reject the 21 Century while they fight for the position and opportunity. This makes you special and desired by the GOP and their minions.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          I beg to differ. We are realists.

      • jmp

        Karolyn,
        That is a good point!…..I can’t wait for him to do more good things! I have been waiting for almost 3 years and….nothing but moves that are tearing this country apart! OK, he gave the order…he was just doing his job…for ONCE! The credit doesn’t go to OBHooo or Bush, but to US intelligence and the brave Navy Seals that did their duty without shirking!

        • Eddie47d

          You are correct but any mission or project has to have the knowledge or approval of the President. There are exceptions were Reagan says he didn’t know about the Iran-Contra affair but he does apologize to the American people for what had occurred.

          • Jana

            Any mission has to have the approval of the President. That is right. So why did Obama insist that Bin Laden be buried with the Islamic protocal? Why did they have to honor Bin Laden like that?
            I remember back when Islam was beheading our soldiers, and dragging the bodies of our soldiers through the streets of Iraq and then even burning them.
            I don’t propose that we do those things, but “in honor of Islam we must hurry up and bury him and do it in such and such way”????
            WHY???

          • Kinetic1

            Jana,
            Why? Because in the name of revenge against a small radical faction we have spent the last 8 years demonizing Muslims and destroying Islamic nations. We need to be able to live in the same world as it’s second largest religion and sometimes that means making a concession here and there. Our forces killed a man that most people would agree deserved to die, but he was still a Muslim religious leader. Our goal was to kill him a do harm to Al Queada, and we did. There was no reason to put his body on display and invite the anger of those who did not support him but still have strong religious beliefs.

          • Jana

            kinetic1,
            That anger from the Islamists is still going to be there. That anger has always been there. No matter what we did in this matter it is still going to be wrong and bring retaliation from them so why go to all of the trouble to bow down to them again?

          • Jana

            Kinetic1,
            We aren’t dealing with normal people here, we are dealing with deranged maniacle people here who think because we are a kind decent peoples that we are a very weak people. These people are bullies. You don’t treat bullies with touchy feely emotions.
            We have to get back in their face and let them know without a doubt we are NOT afraid of them, nor are we going to put up with their nonsense.
            Instead what did we do? Oh we killed one of your main leaders and main backers, but we are so sweet we are going to bury him with honors.
            PHOOEY!

          • JC

            Eddie47d says:

            May 3, 2011 at 11:45 am

            You are correct but any mission or project has to have the knowledge or approval of the President.
            ________________________________________________________________

            Gee, would that include BATFE running guns to the Mexican Drug Cartels? That project they are denying and stonewalling all inquiries into? The one that tripled homicide rates on the Mexican side of ther border? The one that saw two American law enforcement officers murdered?

            Well, I suppose…we should give credit where its due…

          • Eddie47d

            Someone in the higher ups knew about those BATF guns being sold. They proved their point but with unintended consequences.

          • Dan az

            So eddieeeee
            When obummer wanted to make a decision on it he needed to sleep on it.How long does he sleep 16Hrs? His indecision just about cost the prep work and by all rights should have but he did get lucky that he didnt cost this mission lives of our soldiers.
            Barack Obama kept military commanders hanging by declaring he would ‘sleep on it’ before taking 16 hours to give the go-ahead to raid Bin Laden’s compound.

            Hit squads of specialist Navy Seals – who were not even told who they were preparing to capture – had practised the mission at two reconstructions of the terror chiefs sprawling compound.

            The mission looked set to be given the all clear last Thursday when analysts confirmed beyond doubt that Bin Laden was in busy town of Abbottabad in northern Pakistan.

            But the president stunned officials when he told a national security meeting that he wanted more time to think – and disappeared out of the room.

            ‘I’m not going to tell you what my decision is now – I’m going to go back and think about it some more,’ said Obama, according to the New York Times. He then added ‘I’m going to make a decision soon.’

            The head of the CIA and other senior intelligence officers who were keen to proceed were left tense as they waited for the president’s decision.

            But the next morning after 16 hours, Obama summoned four top aides to the White House Diplomatic Room. Before they could speak, the president put his fist on the table and declared ‘It’s a go’.

            With those three words, the greatest military operation in recent history began. Had it not been for heavy cloud cover on Saturday, troops would have been deployed then.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jana,
            Why go through all the trouble?? Cause we have a Muslim pres!!!!

          • JC

            Eddie47d says:

            May 3, 2011 at 6:11 pm

            Someone in the higher ups knew about those BATF guns being sold. They proved their point but with unintended consequences.
            _____________________________________________________________________
            Proved what point?
            That they could force American gun dealers to do things against their will and conscience?

          • Eddie47d

            I doubt if it was against their will or their conscience.

          • JC

            Eddie47d says:
            May 4, 2011 at 10:42 pm
            I doubt if it was against their will or their conscience.
            _______________________________________________________________

            Research it eddie, they were threatened.

        • Bruce D.

          Obama has done two things right in his time as president. The other one was to give the order to shoot the three pirates. Maybe he has done something else right but it seems everything he does makes things worse. I notice the new line of taxies from New York City were given to Nisson. So much for his green jobs putting America back to work.

          • Jana

            But now its coming out that they were ready and he kept them waiting 16 hours so he could uhhhh make up his mind. I guess he hasn’t changed that much.

          • Eddie47d

            Bruce; It’s Nissan and they are a reliable car with good mileage. Something our auto manufacturers have been sluggish at. Cab drivers want a car that will last many years. Besides that is a NYC problem not Obama’s. Anything else you want to blame him on? How about your aching back?

          • Bruce D.

            Yes Eddie, I would also like to blame Obama for much of the stimulus money going to China to make wind turbines. I know you carry Obama’s water Eddie but your comment is inconsistent with your usual trite. Do you really believe green jobs mean American jobs Eddie? Good grief!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Eddie,
            A friend of mine bought an old cab to rebuild. It had over 250,000 miles on certified! That is low mileage for a New York city cab!! you mean up till now the cabs used in NYC didn’t give good service?? Don’t make me laugh!!!!

      • JIBBS

        BO is grasping at straws…….

    • Frank

      to cawmon…It must really steam you that a black president, in command of a military that allows gays to die for their country, was able to pull off in two years what GW couldn’t do in eight years .. as for the demonstrations ,, beliegvfe it or not .. students in Big City Colleges DO know how to write .. and believe it or not .. they watch TV .. both over te air and cable

      • WayneT

        Frank, you are ignorant for making such a stupid statement. Obama just got lucky. It was the Intelligence Dept and the Navy Seals, and others who worked the one out, not Obama. Let’t give credit here credit is due.

        • J.M.R.

          DOES REELECTION COME TO MIND

        • karolyn

          But if it was YOUR candidate, you wouldn’t mind him taking some credit, would you?

          • Cawmun Cents

            I wouldnt care if he was George Washington,anyone who would take credit is a charlatan,not a decent human being.The fact that it was Obama has nothing to do with it.There are likely people who have been out there working hard to see this happen for many years,and for a Johnny-come-lately to absorb all the glory is wrong.Not all of the folks were military either.Some were just people who provided the equipment to complete this exercise,some were likely foreigners.But for a manlike Obama to grab the headline as it were,for political gain is just below common decency.I’d feel the same no matter who it was,doing just that.

          • Robert Smith

            Remember it was Clinton’s people who put Obama on the radar. They tried to brief the Bush administration but they didn’t listen.

            Rob

          • Eddie47d

            Bush grandstanded immensely after 9/11 and used it to his fullest advantage.He was right to do so but never should have used it as an excuse for attacking Iraq.He turned a patriotic event into an inexcusable war. Obama should learn those lessons and stop expanding into the Middle East.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Robert,
            You seem to forget that Clintoon turned down the chance to get OBL on a silver platter!!! I wouldn’t give him too much credit!!!

          • Dan az

            Take your head out of the box and see what your imposter is truly doing.
            On Jan. 22, 2009, President Obama issued Executive Order 13491, closing the CIA program and directing that, henceforth, all interrogations by U.S personnel must follow the techniques contained in the Army Field Manual. The morning of the announcement, Mike Hayden was still in his post as CIA Director, He called White House Counsel Greg Craig and told him bluntly: “You didn’t ask, but this is the CIA officially nonconcurring”. The president went ahead anyway, overruling the objections of the agency.

            A few months later, on April 16, 2009, President Obama ordered the release of four Justice Department memos that described in detail the techniques used to interrogate KSM and other high-value terrorists. This time, not just Hayden (who was now retired) but five CIA directors—including Obama’s own director, Leon Panetta—objected. George Tenet called to urge against the memos’ release. So did Porter Goss. So did John Deutch. Hayden says: “You had CIA directors in a continuous unbroken stream to 1995 calling saying, ‘Don’t do this.’”

            In addition to objections from the men who led the agency for a collective 14 years, the President also heard objections from the agency’s covert field operatives. A few weeks earlier, Panetta had arranged for the eight top officials of the Clandestine Service to meet with the President. It was highly unusual for these clandestine officers to visit the Oval Office, and they used the opportunity to warn the President that releasing the memos would put agency operatives at risk.

            The President reportedly listened respectfully-and then ignored their advice. With these actions, Barack Obama arguably did more damage to America’s national security in his first 100 days of office than any President in American history.”

        • bob wire

          Lucky my ass! You make your luck Wayne. You are seriously discounting a lot of long,dangerous and detail originated work on the part of a lot of people.

          You need to think about what you are suggesting to us.

          • jmp

            Really bob! Was OHBooo in Pakistan? Was he on the helicopter? Did he spend hours and hours, years! gathering the intelligence? No! He gave the order when the time came to give the order…PERIOD! Credit goes to the Navy Seals firs and foremost!

          • Jana

            Exactly,
            And I am really surprised he had the guts to make such a wise decision. It just goes to show that anyone can make a good decision at least once in their lives.

          • PINKGIN

            Since the news was released, regarding the shooting of Bin Laden, and all the suspicious actions since..i.e quickly disposing of the body etc..
            I have had a sad and uncanny feeling that the murder of Pat Tillman by his own comrades was indeed connected with this incident,
            Was Tillman onto something beyond his duty,? Had he discovered Bin Laden was dead all those years ago and had proof ?..I remember there was a “cover up” at the time and he was awarded a medal for bravery after death to sort of sweeten the pot.

          • karolyn

            Pink – Do you people actually spend time sitting around thinking up all of these weird theories?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            bob,
            I served the same place you say you did, and I saw a lot of good men killed on bad intelligence and a president too quick to give the ok on something! nobummer got lucky in that he finally got some good intel!!

          • bob wire

            It’s hand and glove Joe, we both know that.

            Intell is to be researched and discriminated. How well this is done has much to do with any outcome, we both know that as well.

            There are always “unknown” factors” and this too can be assessed and assimilated with provisions made.

            This is matters for leadership to consider ~OR NOT.

            Let’s not kid ourselves, rare is success an accident. “O” is no military man, he is a leader of a nation of highly skilled military men at his disposal that preformed extremely well.

            It took it all! hand and glove.

            Must like doctor Davis hiring a ex special forces Brown ( i think that was this name) to spring his son out of a Mexican jail years ago. It went flawlessly with great speed and certainty.

            be grateful to all that engaged at high risk to themselves.

            and stop and consider, any failure would have greatly damaged “O” hopes for reelection. let’s face it, ~ it was a gut’cey decision to make.

            “O” placed all his fate in his military ( knowing full well, some mocked him) and his assessment of the intell. ~ It was a double down moment and once the trigger pulled, it was out of his hands.

        • James

          Wayne T, There were times when President Bush didn’t seem all that anxious to find bin Laden. It is also a fact that the bin Ladens and the Bush family were friends. Osama’s older brother was over here taking flying and was killed when he flew a stunt plane into a high tension wire. That made Osama the first heir of the bin Laden fortune. Back when Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld said Osama was just impossible to find, Osama was in a Pakistani hospital being interviewed by U.S. newsmen.

          • Cawmun Cents

            You are a complete mess from the very start.No credibility will be given to you from now on.

          • Average Joe

            Cawmun Cents, I am not trying to stir things up here, but…
            Actually, the Bush / Bin Laden connection goes back to G.W. in about 1976 when OBL’s brother invested in Armbrusto Oil (owned by GW) through James Bath. Also, the Bin Laden family had a major investment with the Bush’s in the Carlyle Group ( a major defence contractor in the US), which it kept well into GW’s Presidency. After the 911 attacks, while all air traffic was grounded in the US….Bush arranged to have all relatives of OBL in the US, flown out of the country on private aircraft…whether we like to admit it or not..GW is far from squeaky clean…and did have ties to the Bin Laden family….and is rumored ( I couldn’t any articles quickly,sorry)to go back as far as Prescott Bush (GW’s grand daddy) and the Saudi Bin Laden group in the 40′s-50′s.

            Prescott Bush (GW’s grandfather) also lost his bank assets under the trading with the enemy act:
            “On October 20, 1942, the federal government seized the Union Banking Corporation in New York City as a front operation for the Nazis. Prescott Bush was a director. Bush, E. Roland Harriman, two Bush associates, and three Nazi executives owned the bank’s shares. Eight days later, the Roosevelt administration seized two other corporations managed by Prescott Bush. The Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation, both managed by the Bush-Harriman bank, were accused by the US federal government of being front organizations for Hitler’s Third Reich. Again, on November 8, 1942, the federal government seized Nazi-controlled assets of Silesian-American Corporation, another Bush-Harriman company doing business with Hitler.”

            The Ties and corruption in the family has been well documented over the years.

        • Bruce D.

          I do not think it was luck that got Bin Larden. There was some some pretty good intellegence involved in it. Obama should be given some credit, if for nothing else he had the sense to authorize our troups to take him out rather than the Pakistan government who would have had someone inside leak the information to Bin Larden no doubt.

      • Mike

        Obama didn’t do anything. The only reason he agreed to killing OBL is because it would make the most headlines to bolster his dropping approval ratings. He will stop at nothing to try to make himself look good in an attempt to get re-elected so he can finish the destruction of this country. I find it sickening that John Boehner congratulated Obama for this. The fool just played right into Obama’s hand.

        • bob wire

          and you really believe that! I think you do.

        • Robert Smith

          Hey Mike, I hear the Donald wants to see the death certificate.

          And then there is the ultimate conspiricy. How did Obama get to do his announcement during Trump’s program?

          I wonder if he used the same crew from the fake moon landing.

          Rob

        • Eddie47d

          Mike; This raid was on the drawing board for months.He could have pulled it out of his hat before the 2010 elections and maybe garnered supports for Democrats back then. He didn’t do that now did he? He chose wisely to make sure the Navy Seals were properly trained for this mission and would meet their objective. It was a good call and done at the right time when no national elections were in play.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie, eddie, eddie!!! He doesn’t give a crap for the dems, repubs, hell, the American people all he cares about is getting reelected!!! THAT is why he waited till now! Just to see how low his rating was going to go!

          • Eddie47d

            More blow from Joe!!

        • karolyn

          And what about the kudos from Cheney and Bush!

          • independant thinker

            That is because Bush at least is a “stand up guy” don’t know about Cheney though.

        • skip

          You are pretty sick to say that. Obama took credit for nothing, gave credit to the many capable people who carried this out. But he had to weigh the very difficult alternatives. I’m all but certain you so called “patriots” would have voted to fire bomb the place, and we would have known nothing. Face it guys, you don’t like Obama because he happens to be something other than Wasp, and most of you if not all of your are pretty white I’d bet. It is too bad that he is smart and makes a lot of you and us somewhat wanting. But that’s the way it is, so let’s try to get over our inferiority complexes.

          • Jana

            skip,
            When someone has nothing of value to say they play the race card.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        What has race have to do with killing Osuma bin Laden? Bin Laden is a human predator. So are his minions. Maybe the minions handed over the information as to where was his compound because he was becoming a liability and not the savior he was promising to his followers.Like the hydra’s head,he was cut off, but there are worse that will pop up.

        • Jana

          Why the decision to hurry up and bury/hide the body so quickly?
          Was this a ploy to hopefully assuage or placate his Islamic friends?

          • Cawmun Cents

            all you have to do is find his body to know the truth.

      • CJM

        Get off your racist horse, frank, and quit playing that race card–everyone is sick of that ploy. You do have to admit that it doesn’t look too good for obama for having students at the White House for a very late announcement–and they are already ‘having fun.’ If no one else knew what this announcement was about, how did these young people know???? Obama has been on TV in late hours before and there were NO students present—he does NOT deserve credit for anything other than to deliver the announcement, period.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          CJM,
          He doesn’t even deserve that!! It was probably written on a teleprompter for him!! Credit the speech writers!!!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Frank,
        If kids from big city colleges can write, then it’s VERY obvious that you didn’t attend one!! Check out your post!!!

      • JC

        Frank says:

        May 3, 2011 at 7:18 am

        to cawmon…It must really steam you that a black president, in command of a military that allows gays to die for their country,
        ______________________________________________________________
        I can see it all now….Obama in his desert camo out there personally directing his elite Gay SEAL Team in the Mountains of Pakistan.
        Teleprompter in hand and a Hawaiian birth cerificate sticking out of his pocket…chanting yes we can, yes we can…enticing the evil one to emerge from his cave and surrender his life in the face of such an awesome sight…

        Obama did nothing.

        DSome very serious men who weren’t looking for political clout did though.

        • Jana

          JC,
          EXACTLY!!!

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      If your thoughts include the words like can’t and won’t then keep on singing to choirs and hurling insults. Don’t need to ask “how is that working for you”, I can tell by the insults.

    • Libertarian

      So, this is the 9th time he is pronounced dead, now with a bit more pomp, of course as the presidential elections are about to kick in high gear!

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/osama-bin-laden-pronounced-dead%e2%80%a6-for-the-ninth-time.html

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/media-runs-fake-photo-to-illustrate-bin-laden-death-propaganda.html

    • http://comcast the fisherman

      It is people like you that bring the country down. When your mama change your dippers when you where small you never apreciated it . You just lay back in that old crap and complain about everything and anything so you can get attention. Like you and only you can do better. Talk is cheap

    • http://comcast the fisherman

      Say nothing just suck it up. And yo will be a better person

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Why?

    • Kate8

      It always cracks me up how often people in the media mix up Osama and Obama. Kind of a freudian slip, don’tcha think?

      Beck did it again today, in the 2 minutes I bothered to watch him.

  • Smilee

    It really burns your butt to see Obama have a true “Mission Accomplished” when the two administrations before him failed at it, no matter how brilliant an act Obama may accomplish you will fabricate something to try and tarnish his brilliance your hate of Obama really does runs that deep.

    • WayneT

      Smilee, it was not Obama’s intelligence who put this thing together. It was the Intel Dept., and the Navy Seals who put this together. Let’s give credit where credit is due. They are the ones that should be given the credit. Obama only gave them the green light like any other president would have done. Obama still sucks as far as I am concerned. What was Obama going to say, no, I am not going to let you kill Osama Bin Ladin. Yea, right!!!!

      • BKWsr

        Wayne T, pres. Clinton said no twice. and both times the shooters had him directly in their sights, over and done with, with no mishaps. There should had never been a 9/11.

        • Cawmun Cents

          EXACTLY!

        • Robert Smith

          AND! The Clinton people tried to inform the Bush folks. Bush ignored it until 911.

          Rob

          • BKWsr

            Not true Clinton barried the report because he didn’t believe it. It was never given to Bush.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Sounds to me like it doesnt matter who was at the helm,the guy on the cannon sunk the ship.Two werent in command when it happened,but they played an active role,just like all the others who didnt use this for political gain.Only Obama is brazen enough to use this for personal notoriety.Kind of makes you wonder about his character doesnt it?

          • Eddie47d

            Reagan took credit for the collaspe of the Soviet empire when Russia was already collapsing from within. Nixon took credit for opening up relations with China.Roosevelt took credit for WWII. Sure there are other factors such as the military and diplomats behind the scene.Yet all Presidents take credit for events that happen under their watch.

          • Cawmun Cents

            So being bogged down in Afghanistan for nearly ten years had nothing to do with it?So… funding the resistence of the Mujahadeen,wasnt any of Reagans doing right?The former Soviet Union was collapsed because their economy couldnt withstand a protracted war.The difference is huge in what was actively being done by Ronnie,and what has been being done before Obama,and how credit is served where it is due.You sir,are comparing apples and oranges and espousing b—shit from it.But go ahead and use it for political gain…we are used to that from this administration.

          • Eddie47d

            C.C.; Then you should give credit where credit is due instead of playing anti-Obama politics.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            all I ever remember Reagan saying was WE(as in the American people) caused the fall of the soviet empire!!! Get it right, boy!!!

          • Eddie47d

            I’m not your boy Joe blow! Your memory is faulty.

      • smilee

        Wayne T

        Obama was this gigs mastermind and that really burns your butt does it not, your logic then would be that since Osama bin laden did not fly the planes into the towers etc that he then should not be responsible for them even thought he was the man that gave the green light to those acts, your rational is so deeply skewed but your deep seated hatred you have for Obama probably makes rational thought about anything he does impossible for you.

    • Stan Smith

      So the Libtards are out in force in this site, Okay Libtards things getting dull at The Daily Kos?? well news media left this one out.
      http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/3-persons-convicted-terrorism-related-ca
      @ coal miner you got too much black dust in your lungs! Your idol Peanut Carter gave us Radical islam in Iran!

      • karolyn

        So what does that have to do with the topic??????

        • Stan Smith

          @ karolyn! Why don’t you ask your self true believer! Why did obummer gave 3 muzzie US citizenship??
          and your lame quote(So what does that have to do with the topic??????) OBL and terrorism is the topic! I’m just pointing out the fact what Obummer did! He may did something right for once! By giving a green light to take out OBL! Rest of his marxist policies sucks!

          • smilee

            Thamera says:
            May 3, 2011 at 10:57 am

            Facts and the truth neve get enough attention so I will keep on sounding like a broken record, WHY DOES THE TRUTH SO IRRITATE YOU????????????

        • smilee

          He wants to divert attention from this issue as it burns his butt something terrible to see Obama with such great “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED” when all these Obama haters are always trying to make it appears that Obama can do nothing right and now that he has proved them so terribly wrong they they just do not know how to deal with that so they divert and change the subject with simple spin not supported by facts.

          • Thamera

            Are you not getting enough attention senile smilee? You are a broken record. lol

          • Jana

            smileeeeeee,
            We don’t hate the man, we hate what he stands for. Communism, Socialism, and Marxism are all BAD things.

            What truly gets us is that we can’t depend on Obama to continue to make good decisions. So big deal, he made ONE good decision and you little monkeys (see Liberty Digests Trained Monkeys) just fall all over yourselves as you aren’t used to him making good for the United States decisions either.

          • smilee

            smilee says:
            May 3, 2011 at 11:20 am
            Sorry, hit the wrong reply so this was first posted in the wrong place

            Thamera says:
            May 3, 2011 at 10:57 am

            Facts and the truth never get enough attention so I will keep on sounding like a broken record, WHY DOES THE TRUTH SO IRRITATE YOU????????????

          • smilee

            Jana says:
            May 3, 2011 at 11:22 am

            There are many that believe he has made many good decisions, and see you as having no credibility what so ever. Its ok to believe aand express what you want but to always crap on those who do not agree with you without facts shows a big lack lack of character on your part

          • CJM

            smillee: If obama has his way and does become the dictator of the new America under shar’ia law, how are YOU going to feel when the following occurs: (1) everything you own is confiscated by the new government and you are now simply the tenant of the house you paid for; (2) your wives and daughters are circumcised without anesthesia in your own living room, or whatever room the great imam decides is most suitable; (3) your wives and daughters are forced to wear burkkhas; (4) your sons are forced to perform deviant acts for the male population in seedy dives; (5) your daughter is convicted of looking at her boyfriend and saying hello to him just because your neighbor said this happened and is sentenced to be stoned to death; (6) your cousin is stoned to death because he became a homosexual after years of serving men in the seedy dives as a child (7) your wife and an elder daughter are sentenced to 7 years confinement because they are well educated and spoke out against an obama directive they disagreed with….and on it goes. These are the reasons stalwart AMERICNS disagree with the obama agendas; perhaps this is just too much for your brain to absorb due to the adoration you have for the messiah you have chosen to follow.

          • smilee

            CJM says:
            May 3, 2011 at 11:53 am

            Quite the dream you had, your dreams are just with no reality in it at all.

          • Eddie47d

            CJM must have come out of Fantasy Island.

        • karolyn

          The article did not say that Obama gave them citizenship. It said that citizenship was granted UNDER his administration. That just means it happened while he was Pres.

          • Thamera

            very telling karolyn “it just happened” while he was president…lol…I’m going to have to remember that one.

          • Cawmun Cents

            I’ll remember it for you right now!Bin Laden wasnt killed by Obamas directive,he was killed during Obamas presidency….there you have it!

      • Eddie47d

        Actually Stan it was our installing a puppet regime(Shah) in Iran that angered the radical clergy in that country.They didn’t like this foreign influence in Iran and revolted. That is what brought extreme theology to that nation. That in it’s self should have warned us to stay out of the Middle East.

    • JC

      Smilee says:

      May 3, 2011 at 1:10 am

      It really burns your butt to see Obama have a true “Mission Accomplished”
      _______________________________________________________
      Like Project Gun Runner?

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    Smilee,

    Its crude racism.Their heros,Reagan and Bush Sr created Bin Laden.They got eggs on their faces.Crow anyone?1

    • Doc Sarvis

      Well said and right on.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Doc Sarvis,

        These right wing buffoons have incurable Phobias known as(alethophobia: An abnormal fear of the truth. And Veritaphobia: fear of telling the truth)2

    • Cawmun Cents

      Defamitory poisoning of the well just shows how weak your argument is.If you actually had a decent argument why using this for political gain is a good statement about a person,then you wouldnt have to result to fallacial tactics.But dont worry we are used to that tactic from the leftist media already.Its always been,and always will be pathetic.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        CC,
        coal miner seems to forget it was his idols, the progressives voting to defund our support of the rebels that were fighting the Russians that created osama binladen!!!

  • WayneT

    Obama just got lucky on this one. I praise the intel, and the Navy Seals for the success of this mission, not Obama, even though he allowed it to happen. But again, wouldn’t any other president have done the same? This does not change my mind about Obama. It is Obama’s policies against drilling for oil in his country that is allowing gas and food prices to surge. Gasoline is over $5.00 per gallon in some parts of the country. Food prices are rising for the same reason. It will get worse than this if Obummer does not change his stupid policies against drilling for more oil.

    • Frank

      o wanye T .. “any president”??? Did GW order it at toro bora???nope!!

      • bob wire

        No! the troops were ordered to call out for pizza and stand down.

    • skip

      Gas is at $5 a gallon because of big oil and big Wall Street who have corrupted the House and Senate for decades – the current House was elected with their dollars. Don’t blame Obama. I do hope he has the courage to call these bastards out and get the speculators under control and perhaps in Leavenworth cracking rocks for the highway improvements we need – unless you Tea Partiers decide we don’t need highways because the government controls them and their speed limits.

      • bob wire

        O didn’t accept any pac money in his bid for office my friend. Something that is ignored by the right and not spoken off. ~ considering their trouncing and humiliating defeat ~ you can hardly blame them for not wanting to advertise the fact.

        But sure, “O” had some heavy backers ~ name us one successful candidate that hasn’t.

        and just what does that have to do with the price current of bananas?

      • Mick

        Skip,,I think you should take a good look at who wants the gas prices to keep going up……Don’t count on obama to do anything to reduce the burden,from the horse’s mouth.
        “As director of the Lawrence Berkley National Laboratory, Steven Chu, Obama’s secretary at the Department of Energy, said in an interview that gas taxes should slowly be increased over the next 15 years in order to force people to turn to alternative energy sources.“Somehow, we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to levels in Europe,” said Chu. In Europe, the price for a gallon of gas consistently hovers around $10 a gallon.”

      • Eddie47d

        World markets and hedge fund manipulations (gambling)determine the price of oil in the world and here.As powerful as any President is even they can’t always control this capitalistic maneuvering.We’ve had Presidents way back to Nixon who promised change and little happens. Our production in America can’t keep up with the growing population and high car ownership. A good number of our citizens do make sacrifices but the majority still buy gas guzzlers and drive as they always have. Maybe someday we will wise up.

        • Mick

          Eddie47d

          You can flip it anyway you wish and try to veer the issue to fit your agenda and distract people from seeing the truth but it doesn’t change the fact that Chu SPECIFICALLY said that we should increase the TAXES on gasoline to FORCE people to turn to alternative energy sources…When a government FORCES people it leave very little for FREEDOM.

          • Eddie47d

            I haven’t seen Federal gas taxes going up so it doesn’t make any difference what someone suggests. Gas taxes should have gone up 40 years ago; now it may be too late to try it.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          eddie,
          And your idol Nobummer supported Chrysler who doesn’t make a car that gets over 30 miles to the gallon, unless, of course, it’s going down hill in an idle and out of gear!!!

    • Robert Smith

      Wayne asks: “But again, wouldn’t any other president have done the same?”

      Bush DID NOT. OBL had been in that complex since 2005. I’m beginning to suspect that Bush knew it, covered it up, and let him stay there just like Pakistani leaders did. The fact is that Bush needed the Orwellian forever war.

      Obama is working to end it.

      Rob

      • Cawmun Cents

        Yeah?Explain to me how?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        There ya go folks, the unvarnished truth!!! It must be as Robert suspects it!! you know he’s never wrong!! Why just the other day, he suspected he had a brain!!!!

      • Eddie47d

        Robert got it but it went right over your head Joe!

    • smilee

      No Wayne Obama is the man that made it happen, quit changing the subject to avoid an honest response to what he actually did, your opinion is biased and skewed

      • Thamera

        And yours is not biased and skewed smilee? hahahahhaha This forum has been very entertaining today as all the liberal posters have come out en mass to celebrate their king while ignoring the deplorable mess that our country is sliding into. I’m glad the man (Osama) is gone but what is that going to change – really? NOTHING

        • Jana

          Thamera,
          You are so right. Our ecomony is still in a mess, we still have someone in the Whitehouse that we can’t trust or depend on to make consistenly good decisions.
          This euphoria that the country feels will not last.

          Obama did his job and everyone is all excited and oh so proud of him. Why? Because its truly one of the first times he has actually done his job.

        • smilee

          Thamera says:
          May 3, 2011 at 11:03 am

          And yours is not biased and skewed smilee? hahahahhaha This forum has been very entertaining today as all the liberal posters have come out en mass to celebrate their king while ignoring the deplorable mess that our country is sliding into. I’m glad the man (Osama) is gone but what is that going to change – really? NOTHING
          ____________________________________________________________

          Oh Funny!! It is the fr right that sees him as the Messiah and King, they are the only ones who refer to him as that, we are celebrating his brilliance and stamina in this matter. Are you really so ignorant as to believe that what you refer to as a deplorable mess was not there and waiting for Him to clean up when he took power. This is a mess of many years in the making and will take years to clean up. Like Katrina it has been years since and there is still a good deal of mess left to be cleaned up. I understand that if you think of him as the messiah or king you can believe he can accomplish that by a miracle but I know of no liberal that thinks that and they have become the one’s far more realistic in todays government but your biases and hatred will keep you blinded to this fact

          • http://?? Joe H.

            smilee,
            And do you truly believe that he hasn’t made it worse in his three years in office??? If so, you are a FOOL!!!

          • smilee

            HE HAS NOT BEEN IN OFFICE THREE YEARS AND THINGS ARE NOT GREAT BUT THEY ARE NOT NEAR AS BAD AS THEY WERE ON 1/20/09 THE TREND SHOWS SLOW IMPROVEMENT BUT NO FAST DOWNWARD SPIRAL AS WHAT WAS GOING ON WHEN HE TOOK OFFICE BUT YOUR TO BIG OF A FOOL TO REALIZE THE REAL FACTS, HATRED DOES THAT TO YOU IT MAKES YOU BLIND TO REALITY.

        • libertytrain

          Thamera – ain’t that the truth. Haven’t noticed our soldiers coming home in droves these last couple days; jobs for those that would actually like one; gas prices lowered and on and on -

  • Thomas

    A Pyrrhic victory at best. A trillion dollars pissed away, our economy and even the dollar itself in ruins, tens of thousands killed, millions displaced…Osama always said that was the goal. To lure us into ruinous wars until we imploded. He said that openly to anyone who would listen. I’m sure he’s smiling from hell, saying “Mission Accomplished.”

    • Robert Smith

      ummmm Thomas… You said about Obama: “To lure us into ruinous wars until we imploded.”

      Washn’t it Bush who got us into Afganistan and Iraq? I could be wrong, but that’s how I remember it. I think it was in all the papers.

      Rob

      • BKWsr

        and now Libia.

      • Cawmun Cents

        what the eyes do not see the heart implies…..-.CC

      • Thamera

        If you were not so eager to pigeonhole people Robert Smith, you would see that Thomas was referring to OSAMA not OBAMA duh! And I agree with Thomas, who really is winning here?

        • Jana

          Thamera,
          Good catch. Most of the people cannot seem to differentiate between Osama and Obama. Hmmmm I wonder why. Too funny.

          • bob wire

            Reading comprehension?

      • JC

        Gee Robert, is that your excuse for a 14 trillion dollar debt.
        bail outs that saw 4 trillion going to European banks?

        • bob wire

          Hmm? are you for real? JC have you truly looked into this 13.8 Trillion and seen how it was accumulated?

          and I seriously question the amount going to foreign banks, much less Europe.

          • JC

            Questioninmg things is good Bob.
            Research bailout recipients. I did.

          • JC

            PS, why do you think the Fed is scrambling to keep itself from being audited?
            A: Because it would be exposed for the illegitimate gangster operation it truly is.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        robert,
        nobama claimed Afghanistan about two and a half years ago as a necessary war!! and now he got us involved in LIBYA!!! ALL HIS, NO BUSH THERE,ALL NOBUMMER!!!

  • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

    Credit does go to Obama for having Bin Laden’s Death. And he took every bit of it. Oh, yeah, he did mention the military role but did you see all the military around him when he made the inducement? Did you notice he stressed the military was under CIA direction so that the Director of Homeland Security could get on TV and crow about his accomplishments?

    • skip

      What nonsense Dan. He gave the military full credit. And did you notice that even before this he appointed the top military man as the new CIA director? Why don’t you try to get informed rather than rage on like a braying jackass.

      • Eddie47d

        Palin was in Denver yesterday and gave credit to G. Bush for killing Bin Laden. They are all in denial and can’t be trusted to tell the truth. Maybe someday they will blame Puerto Rico for bombing Pearl Harbor if it suits their conspiracy agenda.When Obama sent the military to recapture that ship the Somali pirates took over in 2009 they denied Obama credit then also. When a sports team wins a game or a surprise victory the owner of that team brags and gets credit for that win even though he didn’t play. It’s time to give credit where credit is due and move on. All this silly denial yesterday by the right that this event never even happened begs the question about THEIR integrity.

      • Cawmun Cents

        yeah I get it…all of a sudden,magic Obama,waived his magic teleprompter and Bin Laden was dead.You couldnt get him dead before because Obama wasnt hard on the case right?Yeah twenty years of trying and only because Obama is president,does the bad guy finally get his due.Yep it is a certain victory for Democrats everywhere,because no Republicans were involved in the hunt and eventual demise of our most hated enemy.All Hail the Democrats for their brilliant victory!

    • smilee

      Dan

      I see they burned your biased butt too, Commander and Chief is a part of the Military, the highest rank in the military that is how the founders wanted it and this is a constitutional requirement, no other rank is. He has shown you real skill which we have not seen in a Commander and Chief in quite awhile. Eat your heart out

      • Jay

        Commander and chump, barry deluded, is part of the military only by label. I doubt very much the military respects him! Wouldn’t surprise me that he would have no clue as which end of a gun to hold!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        smilee,
        Get it straight, chump!!! It’s commander IN chief!! Not AND!!

      • JC

        Raving Lunatic.

  • Frank

    Dan.. if you ant to see th Militry.. turn on te Pentagon Channel .. they have plenty of coverage .. or msubscribe to the DOD website ….p

  • Laurence Cripe

    Who is the terrorist here anyway? The one who died recently or the one who has laid to waste the future of a once all-powerful beacon for democracy – destroying an economy, imposing rules over the will of the People – who, with the exception of this singular operation (which, by the way, he opposed but was held with his feet to the fire under threat of being exposed for not doing it when the opportunity presented itself – a fact)- has rightfully become the distinguished “worst president ever”…

    • bob wire

      I vote is for you!

      • BKWsr

        I second the motion

    • Donald

      Nonsense! Who was holding his feet to the fire? Be specific. If Cheney can give Obama credit, why can’t you?

      • smilee

        Despite all of Cheney’s faults, and there are many, he still stands head and shoulders over these idiots

      • American Patriot

        Cheney and Obama are cousins. Remember? Besides, Most Americans now see the resemblance with the two of them. Yep! Both are bumbling idiots. As well as crooks. Need I say more?

        • smilee

          TRUE, BUT I DOUBTS THEY ARE KISSING COUSINS

  • William Smith

    Get real, people! This is all part and parcel of worldwide jihad’s campaign to destroy civilization and replace it with the global caliphate, led by the Muslim Manchurian Candidate President Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

    Bin Laden has been dying of incurable chronic kidney failure for over a decade, and was at death’s door. Bin Laden, Obama, and the Pakistani military jihadis living in Abbottabad within blocks of the Bin Laden compound cooperated to give Bin Laden the martyr’s death he craved. Does anyone over the age of three really believe we flew an assault team completely undetected and without permission of the Paki government hundreds of miles, attacked a walled compound within a few hundred yards of one of Pakistan’s most elite army brigades, without a carefully defined plan?

    No body, gee I wonder why? A “kill” mission instead of trying to adbuct Bin Laden alive, when the intelligence gathered from him and his aides would destroy worldwide jihadi terrorism? ALL the people in the compound either killed or escaped?

    Use your heads, people! We have martyred the symbol of worldwide jihad and handed the Jihadi-in-Chief the 2012 election.

    Watch carefully in the next few months and see if any of the huge sleeper cells of Muslim terrorist are broken up in the United States. I got $10,000 that says at most only a handful of lower level flunkies will go down as more and more madrassas and mosques are built, weakening our resistance to nil.

    • karolyn

      IF Obama had been dying of incurable kidney disease, there would have been a dialysis machine at the house, which there was not.

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Karolyn,

        Bin Laden was also living in the lap of luxury while his comrades in arms were dying for a cause.He was a two bit phoney.Obama and team took out a monster.3

        • karolyn

          Actually, the place was well-built and expensive, but the furnishings were prety shabby, as shown in photos on the news.

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            Karolyn,

            He still lived far better than his underlings.!

          • Jana

            Karolyn,
            You are just like the rest of us. ********You said:”IF Obama had been dying of incurable kidney disease, there would have been a dialysis machine at the house, which there was not.”*************

            Hmm you can’t tell the difference between Osama and Obama either.

          • JIBBS

            Jana says:

            Karolyn,
            You are just like the rest of us. ********You said:”IF Obama had been dying of incurable kidney disease, there would have been a dialysis machine at the house, which there was not.”*************

            Hmm you can’t tell the difference between Osama and Obama either.

            Well said, Jana
            looks like Karolyn is strting to see the light, WTG !!

        • JC

          Obama abd team? And I suppose almighty God, er Allah were guiding the anointed one through the hunt? As if Obama had a clue…at all.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Making a whole lot of assumptions are we?How do you know what was at that place?It was ten days ago when the event happened and they just released it to public knowledge.

    • Eddie47d

      Obama did have a well defined plan so you are wrong. The Pakistani military has always been clueless and ineffective so you are wrong. All the people in the compound weren’t killed (23 turned over to authorities)so you are wrong again Will Smith.I think killing instead of capturing Bin Laden was the correct way to do it. We didn’t need the expense of a mock trial which would have given al Qaeda a bigger advantage and gave Osama a wider audience and made him a bigger martyr. If his body was buried it would have been a target of those who hate him and a memorial for those who loved him. Obama and our military did the right thing.

    • smilee

      WS

      The prophet has spoken but his brain did not engage!!!!!!!

      • skip

        No, smilee – it is your brain that can’t receive anything resembling reason. this was a near perfect mission, and now we know they found a treasure trove of computers and stored data. Too bad you can’t give credit where credit is due.

        • smilee

          what!! what!!!

          I NEVER DISPUTED THAT I WAS DISPUTING WILLIAM SMITH ABOVE SOMEHOW YOU MISSED THE DIALOG SEEMS IT IS YOUR BRAIN THAT IS NOT ENGAGED

  • Polski

    As an independent, I pity the republicans. All talk and no action. Well, this just made Obama the president again in the 2012 election. It’s amusing to see the republicans stewing in their juices.

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      Polski,

      They also got foot in the mouth disease.10

      • http://?? Joe H.

        polski,
        you and digger can just kiss the netherrealms!!! And we’ll see in 2012!!! The American people are getting smarter by the day and can see the deplorable condition of this country!! Don’t try to to tell me how much Nobummer has done, either! Everything he has TRIED(?) to fix has turned to $hit!!

    • Cawmun Cents

      yeah….?Explain to me which of the seal team who got this done was a Democrat,and which was a Republican?Why is a victory over a fiend like this man a chance for you to espouse victory over a hated political rival?Were all the people involved Democrtas?Was the last twenty years of hunting for this man a complete Democrat undertaking?Turning this into a political weapon is dispicable behavior.You have no excuse.Using an event like this to power a re-election will be an historical demagoguery of communistic propagandizement.But go ahead and claim victory for”your”side.Its just laughable thats all…..

    • Mick

      Polski says:
      May 3, 2011 at 7:47 am
      As an independent, I pity the republicans. All talk and no action. Well, this just made Obama the president again in the 2012 election. It’s amusing to see the republicans stewing in their juices.
      ********************************************

      Polski,,,,,You better reconsider the direction to where you aim your pity..If your prediction is correct pity the population of the United states,,,,

  • Tim L.

    A great day for true Americans! A sad day for the Limbaugh lackeys and republican/tea baggers!

    • BKWsr

      It was a good day for Americans, But as usual for the last couple of years full of questions like why did they dump his body? There was no need for all this contraversy. but instead here we are. another interesting thing I have noted is how gay the left is over this incident, and the use of some wording to refer to the people who think different than you. Tea baggers. From what I have read it is the left(majority of dems) Who support Homosexuality. Not the Right. so the term you are using is in reference to yourselves not the right. Just thought I would point that out. I truely believe no one has a right to tell a nother how they live in their house as long as they are not violating the rights or harming another. If you do not wish to believe in GOD that is between you and our maker. AND IT IS WRITEN SO. YOU have know right to try to force me to accept something I believe is wrong.

      • smilee

        PSSSST!! This is not about homosexuality, your lost aren’t you

        • BKWsr

          I know what this artical is about. My comment is about the comment he and some others have used about Republicans and the Tea party, I thought maybe some facts might help them understand the truth about their own party. But maybe I made an error in my judgement. Some people will never know, or understant the truth. You have to be able to listen.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            BKWsr,
            To understand, he has to first have the EQUIPMENT!!!!

    • JC

      Are you under the impression that you know what a “true American” is?
      I doubt that very much…but I’ll give you a hint…Liberals are Communists, ergo, not Americans at all, on any level…

      • smilee

        I SEE, said the blind man who could not see at all

        • BKWsr

          was that with or with out his dog.

        • JC

          Thanks Smilee, that reminds me…that should have read
          “Simple” Communists. ;)

          • bob wire

            You are a very sick man JC and it’s appears to be contagious

          • Jana

            bob,
            You are right and you seem to have a fever.

          • JC

            bob wire says:

            May 3, 2011 at 8:17 pm

            You are a very sick man JC and it’s appears to be contagious
            ____________________________________________________________

            Sick in what way bob? Because I despise adherents of Big Brother Collectivism as being the unAmerican Commie trash that they are and trying to tell me what a patriot is?

            Thanks for the chuckle. :)

          • Jana

            JC,
            bob wire stands for??? No one really knows as one day he stands for one thing and the next day he is against it.
            Its almost like he has a split personality.

          • JC

            Bob is a fence sitter. Sometimes he hold forth some reasonable thinking, sometimes he behaves like a typical shrieking lunatic libarel. No real convictions or values? I don’t know…

      • Kinetic1

        JC,
        Do you even notice when you are walking all over the Constitution?

        • JC

          Explain yourself. How did you twist that out of anything I said?
          Do you even have a clue what’s in the Constitution?
          I doubt it very much.

  • Mick

    If this operation was on the level I have to be fair, it was the way to do it, no announcements, no warning, no kissing the Pakistan government’s a$$ and obviously no concern for who may be offended,this mission was a total opposite to the liberal way of doing things but considering the so called outcome liberals are suddenly in accord with the tactics used by Obama,
    humm ! I wonder what would have been the reaction of the America Liberal population and media if Bush had used the same tactics, does crucifixion ring a bell regardless of what the outcome would have been…………
    As for this rapid burial, it definitely raise a lot of questions as to why it was done so quickly and honorably, it certainly puts the word transparency in a bad light.
    The body of this bastard should have been plastered in the front page of every newspapers and TV screens word wide,,,,,,,,,,

    • Eddie47d

      A good chunk of Obama supporters condemned his actions in Libya and there were several Republicans who supported this incursion. These kind of actions are a mixed bag but this “liberal” did not support Obama on Libya. His raiding of the Bin Laden compound was masterful and the mission was accomplished without American casualties and done quickly. Bush screwed up big time in Iraq and deserved the criticism. Maybe Libya will be Obama’s Iraq so we’ll see.

  • Mick

    Sorry, before I get nailed, it should have bee ” World wide ” ………

  • red

    Tim L. It’s a happy day indeed, thanks to your military men and women! Not thanks to your obama who has no clue of how to be a leader.

    With that said, he made a deal with his muslim brothers to make him look good, to be reelected. He’ll be quiet when Iran comes for Israel’ blood. Israel, will be only the beginning my friend, you are next in line. Do you really believe he cares about you or anybody for that matter? No sir, he doesn’t!
    He’s still an anti-America Communist president who’s been groomed all his life for the job.
    If you reelect him again next year, you’ve got a president for life my friend! Be afraid, be very afraid!
    He did what he did, to make us all forget about all the mess he’s created so far. Look at the gas/food prices, are you happy to get less for much more? I’m not! Think about it my friend…

    • smilee

      But red, Obams sure did lead this operation to a magnificent conclusion, it was well thought out and perfectly timed and executed, be an honest person and give Obama credit where credit was earned

      • Jana

        Oh yes, Obama has so much military experience.
        Why he has served for years in the military. He was just doing undercover ops posing as a Community Organizer.

        • smilee

          His lack of inexperience as you describe it did not hinder his ability to magnificently orchestrate and pull off this difficult task without out a single American injury or death. We had a saying at work that there are two methods to any planning and execution of a project, the PPP method and PPPP method. PPP is perfect prior planning and PPPP pi$$ poor prior planning and this operation was clearly the former, don’t you agree

          • Jana

            smileeeee,
            whatever.

          • Lostwages

            His lack of inexperience????? What?

        • Eddie47d

          Since Jana wants to mock Obama at least that community organizer organized this latest accomplishment and got err done. G. Bush was clueless about Iraq even with all his National Guard status. Now we can all play happy or just keep digging at each other. What will it be?

          • Jana

            Oh believe me,
            I am not mocking Obama, I am mocking the trained monkeys that are falling all over themselves to praise Obama for doing his job for once.

          • JIBBS

            He didn’t organize sh!t. And for someone that studied the constituion, he sure could care less, or give two sh!ts about it.

          • Eddie47d

            What psycho ward were you released from?

          • bob wire

            The guys in white suits and butterfly net are moving in guys ~ better run!

          • JIBBS

            Your about as stupid as they come…you want to rumble?

          • bob wire

            I though you would never ask!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        smilee,
        Yup, perfectly timed to try and prop up his sagging support!!! t went all the way up to 56%!!! TEMPORARILY!!!! Wait till gas goes to 5.50 a gallon!!!! Wait till food goes up another 10%!!!!! Can anybody say 38%????

        • Jana

          Joe H.,
          Wait till they find out the true story. Not just his propaganda.

  • louie

    Look people, this is all about getting obumer & ilk reelected. If Osama was killed where is his body/pictures? Why was he supposedly hurriedly buried at sea? The American military couldu’ve killed Osama years ago…they were just waiting for the right time. Everybody knew bush was through…so it was saved for the next criminal-in-chief. Think about this!!!

    • smilee

      Eat your heart out louie

  • Candy2

    I am sorry, I don’t mean to be non-jubilant….. but this whole thing has been wrapped and tied up into too neat of a package. Call me a “doubting Thomas” but the burial at Sea is a bit over the top.

    • Cawmun Cents

      Ever notice how everything that this administration does is wrapped in a neat package?I am not going to sit here and deny that the events which have been quoted to us didnt happen as they were portrayed.But it is all a bit too neat,isnt it?The folks who are hired by whoever,to cause doubt on this post,are foaming at the mouth over this.That should tell you that something isnt right.Its left.Conspiracy theories aside,I am glad this evil man is dead no matter when,who,how,or why.If Obama Bin Yomama wants to take credit….its okay with me.But somebody knows the reality of the game,and it smells like Democrat election time.

      • sam3m

        i’ve not been on this site before. pinwheel city. might i have the tin hat concession at your next convention?
        you guys wouldn’t even be neutral to obama if he were christ. really, what could he possibly do to change your minds? if your answer is nothing, maybe he should consider a michael jackson color change.

        • JC

          There’s nothing wrong with Obama’s color (you racist).
          Although it would be fun to see him wearing one glove and singing “Beat It”. I mean for 14 Trillion Dollars, I want some entertainment. :)

          • JIBBS

            or Biilie Jean………I am the one……..lmao

        • Cawmun Cents

          Again poisoning the well to make your argument seem more effective shows your weakness.You have no argument why using this for political gain is a good character trait.You cannot defend the undefensible so you throw out racism as a front for your weak position.

          • smilee

            He didn’t poison the well he merely told you it was poison, he is but the messenger

          • Eddie47d

            Sam 3m was being a smart azz and not being a racist. I got the humor of it.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Yep ad hominem attacks always win the debate right?Then red herrings,then whatever fallacy you can dig up,but hey….you can keep from getting to the point that way.Instead of me explaining that I dont appreciate your clown king taking the credit for work that has been on-going for twenty years,you can throw a race card into the fray,and seemingly end my credibility.I didnt make it about race,you did.

      • Eddie47d

        C.C. There is no major election going on right now. So why the slam? Just because you hear that on whatever news cycle you listen to doesn’t mean that is the case. Too some people it’s election time 24/7, and that is some of the ordinary folks. No one is allowed to take a breather and politics has become like an angry dog. Always barking at our heals.

        • Thamera

          Really Edie? You don’t think Obama is campaigning? LOL

          • Eddie47d

            Hark! I hear another barker.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Thamera,
            nobummer only got out of 2008 campaign mode when he announced his intention to run in 2012!! now he’s in 2012 campaign mode!! Can’t you see the difference??? sheesh!!!

        • Cawmun Cents

          If you cannot see that this man never stopped campaigning then you should walk with a dog and a white cane.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      The burial at sea is to prevent the followers of making bin Laden a martyr and creating a shrine to him.

      • Cawmun Cents

        better tell the folks in Pakistan waiving all the photos of Bin Laden that…..I dont think they understand that part..

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Pakistanis hate us more than hate bin Laden.

          • BKWsr

            They did until we took him out.

          • Jana

            Nadzieja B,
            Well it certainly hasn’t bode well over here for Obama to have buried his body so quickly. Within 2 hours??? Well he did one smart thing, gave the ok to go get Bin Laden, and one stupid thing, get rid of his body so quickly.
            I think in time, that will come back to bite him.

          • Eddie47d

            They got the DNA and it was 99% positive. So Obama got that right too!

          • Jana

            Sure he did.

          • bob wire

            Usama, body may well be with the fishes tonight ~ but his head is still aboard that ship and has been placed in the galley freeze.

            Eventually it will be destroyed by burning here inside the US.

            I admit that is a guess, but a good one.

          • JIBBS

            @ eddie:
            DNA test take no less than two to three weeks, there are DNA test in 24hrs. Your just stupid as I said before…..obama lover on the dole.

          • JIBBS

            I meant to say, there are no 24hr. DNA tests.

          • Jay

            They got the DNA and it was 99% positive. From what source did get this bit of news Eddie, the television? “I heard it on the tv so it must be true”!

          • Eddie47d

            If I hear it from you Jay then I know it’s not true.

  • mamabear

    If you are tired of the politics and hatred, please join me in my petition:

    Dear God,
    Thank you for the blessing of the news of our victory. Please help all to praise the fact that this evil piece of humanity can no longer organize, plan and execute evil in order to kill innocent Americans. May his body lay at the bottom of the sea and feed the fishies, while his soul is tortured in the buring pits of his lord and master, Satan. God Bless America and all of our military and the souls lost at the hands of this evil, cowardly, pig of a man. Thank you for hearing my prayer to touch the hearts of those who lead us and to protect AMERICA…we just aren’t use to seeing this President act this way. Please influence this President to allow the military to mop up the rest of these cowardly pigs and to allow the safe return of all of our troops serving in the Middle East. Thank you for caring for families of the lost and those still serving, may this news give them closure and hope for a brighter future. Thank you for the light of your son and the love that you give to all of your children. AMEN

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Mama Bear, thank for the prayer.
      We cannot give up Politics as this is how the Philosophy and Religion of life are played out. People take sides in various degrees and if you read the posts you can follow the beliefs of the posters.

      • Thamera

        Absolutely Nadzieja

  • Lostwages

    Bin Laden died in 2004 from kidney failure, as the story was told at that time on CBS News. This story has been backed up by a number of ranking officials over the years but has been ignored. If you bother to check it out, you’ll also find out that Bin Laden spent time in a US hospital for this problem before 911. But, due to the unrelenting lack of responsible reporters out there we continue to play the “Obama at Disney Land” game, giving him credit for something he didn’t do or not giving him credit for something he did do, that he shouldn’t have!

    “On May 1, Obama confirmed that the al-Qaida leader had been killed by a U.S. military operation in Pakistan.” Tell me something, why would we be out to kill the leader of the group that we are paying off for their support in Libya?

    He couldn’t had been to hard to find, he’s been dead for almost 10 years!

    And my dear senator from Kilifornia; Representative Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called his death a “significant development in our fight against al-Qaida.” Funny, why would we be fighting the same people we are paying and giving guns to in Libya that are working with the CIA? The same group that supervised this death hunt!

    And to top it all off, you can now get a DNA test in hours instead of days, like it use to be! Plus he gets a burial at sea faster then our solders get buried at home! It’s all out of respect for his religion!

    And now for the topper! The FBI and HLS has come out warning us of the big threat we now face because of us killing Bin Laden! So get your pants undone and be ready for those invasive body searches and naked body scanners! That’s right, line up, safety first, what good are your freedoms if you don’t have your safety! Mostly with our wide open borders, letting anyone come right in! Oh, and here, have a free gun on us!

    Welcome to Disney Land, enjoy the ride! See you next time!
    How blind can you be?

    • Lostwages

      My mistake, from other reading, I understand he died in 2001, not 2004.

      • smilee

        Thats as stupid as believing Elvis is alive. No evidence of this BS, its just a theory and a stupid one at that

        • BKWsr

          You mean Elvis is dead?

          • JIBBS

            I just had lunch with Elvis this afternoon. He’s not dead, just packing a few extra pounds in his later years.

        • Thamera

          Your blind faith in a wasteful, hypocritical, dishonest government is what is stupid Smilee.

          • smilee

            Thamera says:
            May 3, 2011 at 11:20 am

            Your blind faith in a wasteful, hypocritical, dishonest government is what is stupid Smilee.

            Well, Well, Well, not blind as you assume, the government is wasteful, at times hypocritical and often dishonest I certainly know that but hating the government which in reality is “We the People” solves nothing and BITCH BITCH BITCH will never solve these problems. So why BITCH??????????

          • Jana

            smilee,
            So why do YOU have such a dirty mouth and a dirty mind? You can’t converse with anyone without using your GARBAGE vocabulary. That generally means that you aren’t smart enough to get your point across without having to use dirty language.
            Garbage mind, garbage breath.

          • smilee

            Jana

            Ah come on! my language is mild compared to many on here, so whats your real bitch!!

          • Cawmun Cents

            Apparently…he doesnt understand that you just made him yours.Good job Jana.

          • Jana

            Thanks Cawmun Cents.
            Thats because he doesn’t have a very high IQ.

    • sam3m

      ok, you’re leading in the wtf pinwheel contest. you really need to get a checkup.

      • Lostwages

        No, but a lot of you need to do your homework. This killing of OBL puts the total number of times he’s been reported dead at around 8! What could Obama do to change my mind? Stop lying for starters. “second, i’m not sure these people are on the payroll as czars.” What do you think? Obama is appointing them and not paying them? Your first time on this site? Try making it your last!

        • Eddie47d

          They assumed he was dead in those past reports and you bought it. This time they had proof.

          • Lostwages

            And what proof might that be? A DNA test that took less than 24 hours? LOL!

          • smilee

            It takes less than five hours if all the comparisons where in place before hand and that was totally possible

          • Lostwages

            smilee says, To quote a comment; “Thats as stupid as believing Elvis is alive. No evidence of this BS, its just a theory and a stupid one at that” LOL!

          • smilee

            I’m glad your so amused. Your Point?????????????????

          • Lostwages

            My point is…..Your a joke! Someone none of us take to be worth a hill of beans! A troll!

          • Jay

            And what proof might that be Eddie?

          • Eddie47d

            DNA and a dead body.

          • Lostwages

            Funny, haven’t seen either one!

  • Cribster

    After many years of searching OBL was finally killed, great!

    The removal of one impotent mass murderer is cause for celebration but does not erase the fact that Obama is doing more damage than OBL ever could.

    Two supreme court justices were installed strictly on politically correct principals, nothing to do with qualifications. “Wise Latina?!”

    How many czars are in the White House? Science czar, John Holdren, for one, is a proponent of eugenics.

    How many czars are in the White House? Czars
    are not vetted, voted for, approved or appointed, they are smply picked by Obama and we, who have no say, have to pay their salary.

    Obama makes about a promise a month to the Hispanic community that he will pass amnesty. The border is wide open, tens of millions of illegal aliens are free to run rough shod across America as they bleed this country dry.

    Search “Islamberg, NY” It is one of many terroristy cells in the United States. Mosques in the U.S. are producing radical islamists hell bent on furthering their savage ways.

    After Obama put a moratorium on drilling in the Gulf a judge overruled it but Obama then required new permits thereby keeping a defacto moratorium in place.

    National health care that fixes nothing!!! It’s single purpose is to steal personal wealth and further erode liberty.

    I could go on and on. Osama is gone but Obama continues his legacy of lies, deceit and destruction.

    • bob wire

      They use to call them presidential appointees and every president has had them. ~ Just more inappropriate labeling to misconstrue facts and offer insane beliefs for replacement.

      • BKWsr

        ~the same tactics used buy you, and you supporters against people who think different then you. Now all af a sudden you dont like it, and as to the term Czars it was started By the Pres.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          This is the United States of America so why would we have Czars?

          • BKWsr

            I agree it is some term used in Russia for the past kings of their land. We are the people of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA. Those of you who thing Socialism (communism) is good better open your eyes. The only people who gain, or like it are the leaders. You as the people own NOTHING. Not even the clothes on your back. You have no rights except what the state will allow at that given time the state thinks its time or apropriate. Learn real well about what you want before you want it. Also if it is so good? name me one country that accepted it with out a fight. and with out the deaths of millions of inacent people.

          • bob wire

            Russian has a rich and colorful history before such words were ever heard of. And like 99% of these early societies, the Realm was ruled by a ruling class, gentry and clergy. Misery was not an everyday thing for most. Much depended on what the ruling class wished to achieve, Peter the Great was demanding and hard to please as he had enemies and ambitions. Cathrine was rather pleasant for a matriarch and made attempts at social reform. But it was too late as the seeds of subversion and sedition had already been sown.

            There hasn’t been any huge changes since regards in what country one might live except for titles, period of peace and complacency with small gains made in personal freedom.

            The Early citizens of Rome were probably about as free as a person could think to be. The world was for you to take as much as you thought you could lift and handle, you must only bow to Cesar and pay a modest tax.

        • smilee

          I believe czars and regimes where terms to describe this administration coined for this president and his advisers by limbaugh

      • Cribster

        bob wire,

        You’re assuming that I’m OK with past administrations doing it, whatever name you want to give them. I’m not!

        Obama has taken it to a new level!

        • smilee

          And just what level is that or is it just a figment of your imagination

          • Thamera

            It doesn’t matter how many facts you are presented with. It doesn’t matter how many links and references you are given (and although I am addressing senile smilee) I include all the lib posters in this comment. It doesn’t matter how many references to the constitution or outright quotes from our founders are given again and again, people like you prefer to remain deaf and blind to truth. That is what is apparent. I am glad that Osama is “officially” gone but what does it really change? Not a whole lot. Gas prices are still increasing, inflation is creeping, the dollar is deflated and the fundamentalists still hate us and we are drowning in debt with an ever growing deficit.

          • smilee

            Its just that the quotes you refer to are not really quotes but just spin. BITCH BITCH BITCH !!!!!

          • Thamera

            Hey everyone Smilee’s new word of the day “bitch” LOL…Are you jumping on your couch when you say that? hahahahahahahha Again Smilee, happy about those gas prices? haha

          • Eddie47d

            Thamera; Gas prices have gone up and down for decades and for a variety of reasons. Mostly from market manipulations. That has nothing to do with this accomplished mission but you are trying to make it so.

          • Thamera

            Oh, so sorry Eddie47, is that dose of reality too much of a downer?

    • sam3m

      czars? google government czars. first the term was used long before obama, second, i’m not sure these people are on the payroll as czars.

  • James

    Ok Obozo gets some credit for eliminating Bin Laden. But now he needs to do something about the rising gas prices, and establishing a realistic energy policy something the last 5 administrations have failed to do. Plus immigration and the budget are before him to solve. So before all of you run off to reelect him today, remember all the unsolved things he has failed to do.

    • James

      While I agree with this comment, I am not the ‘James’ who wrote it. I did write the one, way above.

    • Jana

      Exactly,
      He batted one out of one thousand.
      Lets see, 1 (one) point for him, 1,000 points against him. Nope, still not even yet.

      • Eddie47d

        Why? Because You say so.

        • Jana

          Eddie 474,
          YEP!

          • smilee

            Sorry, you lack credibility but nice try!!

          • Lostwages

            Look who’s talking about credibility! LOL!

          • Jana

            Lostwages,
            Smilee and credibility doesnn’t belong in the same sentence.

          • Eddie47d

            Lostwages; The same could be said about you. Tit for tat-Tit for tat and more of our silliness.

        • Lostwages

          Hey Eddie47d, I wondered where you went! You and old smilee says need to get together and do a road trip! Your both good for a few laughs! I haven’t had this much fun in a long time! Tit for tat! What a statement, you’re on to something now! LOL!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            gotta have some kind of COMEDY RELIEF!!!!

  • JC

    Anyone want to bet a buck that the death certificate will come from Hawaii? ;)

    • Donald

      I will.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      JC,
      no THIS ONE will come from KENYA!!!!

  • Kim

    I’m a little concerned here…

    Isn’t it interesting that other countries,can provide accurate global information on Bin Landen now?

    Is there no one out there questioning the timing on this in relation to our current Presidents lowest American Approval of his policies and ideology of indicators to for Universal Government?

    How deep is it for other countries to playing politics with our own?

    • Donald

      Why are you questioning the timing of the announcement? It was made within 24 hours of the attack. That’s hardly manipulating the timing.
      When should the announcement have been made?

      • Cawmun Cents

        Is it just me or is this guy under-informed?

        • Jay

          No Cawmun, its not you, donald just recently came out of a coma!

    • Debbie

      Personally, I think this operation was ALL about beefing up Obama’s reelection campaign. The reason there is no body to show is that the REAL body has most likely been dead for many years. I have no idea who the stand-in was this past weekend, but I am fairly certain it was NOT OBL. The man had advanced kidney disease and was unlikely to have access to either a kidney dialysis machine or a kidney transplant operation. NOBODY has sighted him in years either. I think this stunt was well timed to beef up the reelection of Obama and to provide an excuse to end the wars that have put us on the fast track to bankruptcy.

      • smilee

        You just cannot give up that birther mentality can you, facts never convince your kind

        • JC

          Facts you say….What facts? A couple of pieces of paper of dubious origin are facts?
          You’re too stupid or too programmed to want to see facts Obama Boy!

          • smilee

            JC

            If you had been in the birthing room that day in Hawaii you would still be saying he was not born there, Evidence is overwhelming and convincing as to his place of birth but as long as you remain in denial you will never get it.

          • Jay

            JC, smilee is too stupid to live!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Smilee,
            you are probably right, as his mother wouldn’t be there THEN either!!!

          • JC

            smilee says:

            May 3, 2011 at 3:33 pm

            JC

            If you had been in the birthing room that day….
            ____________________________________________________________
            I would have been in hut, in a village, in Kenya …with his Grandmother, and his white American mother who was too young to confer citizenship, watching a kid named Barry Soetoro come into the world, wondering WTF am I doing here?

        • Trish P

          Smilee, No facts. Just a fraudulent so-called “Certificate of Live Birth” with NO embossed official seal. When you open this PDF off whitehouse.gov using Adobe Illustrator you learn it has many layers, including masking layers. It’s not a scan, it’s a created document by a bad forger, who forgot to flatten the layers when he finished. The number in the upper right corner is out of sequence. The Nordyke twins who were born the day AFTER Obama had smaller numbers. Also Obama Sr.’s race was listed as “African”–African is NOT a race and in 1961 the term should have been either Negro or Negroid. Plus other errors too numberous to mention.

  • Donald

    It wasn’t the political elite that was dancing in the strets when bin Laden death was announced.

    Why are people saying Obama took credit for it? He made the announcement, which is what any President would have done under the circumstances. Who else would have been the appropriate person to make the announcement?

    If Dick Cheney can congratulate Obama on this one, why can’t others?

    Relax and enjoy the passing of bin Laden.

    • Jana

      Donald,
      Uhhhhh the reason why they are saying Obama took credit for it is,
      Because he IS taking credit for it.
      I give him credit too. He FINALLY had the fortitude to make a good decision. Thats why the people were dancing in the street. No one knew Obama had the guts to make that kind of decision. A MIRACLE!

      • smilee

        Those of us who are not blinded by hatred of him seen this quality in him a long time ago. I guess that statement that “Barrack has steel in his spine” by Biden during the campaign proved he was right as well.

        • Thamera

          ahhahahahahahahahaha happy about gas prices smilee?

          • Jana

            Thanmera,
            Have you noticed, it takes so little to make smilee happy.

        • Lostwages

          Did Obama have back surgery? or was Biden just checking out his back? LOL! What a picture this brings to mind!

          • Jana

            Lostwages,
            That is a good one.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          smilee,
          Biden also said Nobummer wasn’t ready to be president, as well!!! As well as a few other choice things BEFORE Nobummer chose him as his running mate!!

          • smilee

            THAT WAS THEN WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT HIMSELF, THAT’S POLITICS, THIS STATEMENT WAS MADE BY HIM DURING THE 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN AND NOW HE HAS BEEN PROVEN CORRECT SO QUIT YOUR CHERRY PICKING.

    • American Patriot

      Right! Even if it was 9 years ago that he died. And, not by a bullet either.

  • http://n/a Terry

    What was the motive for the elite operation? To arrest him, or to kill him for political gain by O? If the latter, we are no different than the Aayatollah Khomni who put out a contract on the islamic writer. And, when will they turn elite operations on us here in America to get rid of dissent?

    To cheer this operation requires a real trust in our govt? I no longer have this trust, especially since O got in. He personally and his Wright House are just not open enough to trust them. Especially the press releases only say what he wants us to hear and his whole aura is one of a publicity hound, not that of an American president.

    • Eddie47d

      Publicity hound? Are you talking about Palin or Trump? LOL

    • smilee

      Terry

      A large part of this was the message it sends to other terrorists still alive that they are never safe, we can drop out of the sky in a moments notice and take you out. This was a magnificent demonstration attesting to that fact. It also is now a known fact that we never give up until we get our man. This message by this administration to the world is brilliant and forceful. They will no longer be looking over their shoulder but will be always looking up in fear

      • Jana

        Smilee,
        Now this I agree with.

      • Lostwages

        No Smilee, Bin Laden’s people know he died a long time ago, so they also know that this whole thing is just more lies by Obama and company. Your comment is as stupid as believing Elvis is alive. No evidence of this BS, its just a theory and a stupid one at that!

        • smilee

          HEY, show me the death certificate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Lostwages

            Hey, Show me the birth certificate! A real one! Not one made up on Photo Shop! LOL!

          • smilee

            i GUESS YOU DO NOT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BIRTH AND DEATH!! lol

          • Eddie47d

            Smilee; Is lostwages and Jana alive? I hear them talking but don’t feel a pulse.

          • Jay

            That’s because you’re the one that’s dead, eddie! duh!

      • Jay

        smilee, you’re a shmuck! You obviously don’t have a clue as to the nature of terrorism!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        smilee,
        It also shows them that they have TEN MORE YEARS to conduct raids and mayhem on our country BEFORE they get caught! Remember the BLIND SHEIK???

        • smilee

          OBAMA IS IN CHARGE NOW AND HE WOULD NEVER ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN, BUSH IS NO LONGER PRESIDENT REMEMBER

  • jopa

    It truly was nice to see the people of the world come together with their praise of our special forces and military leadership.Even Dick Chaney said of our President “a job well done”.For Obama to know where Bin laden was since last August and keep it under wraps until the moment was just right is remarkable.This is the most important and greatest military victory since Hitler shot himself 61 years ago on May 1st, so we thank you Mr. President.Four more Years.

    • Thamera

      four more years? Really Jopa? An ever growing deficit, drowning in debt, high unemployment, housing in the toilet, increasing gas prices which only means increasing prices for EVERYTHING and you want four more years of this because OSAMA is dead? Can you people who think this is such an earth changing event look at the bigger picture? OSAMA being killed this late in the game means very, very little (and it doesn’t matter to me who is in the WH) I’m glad that man is gone, but there will be another to take his place, if not worse than OSAMA and in the meantime our nation is literally drowning in debt, reckless spending with a president who is only concerned about his next campaign! Excuse me if I don’t share the “jubulence” of one man’s death as our nation is spiraling into the toilet.

      • smilee

        BITCH BITCH BITCH

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          smilee,

          Bitch Bitch Bitch

          How did you know? (offensive words removed)

          • Jana

            wow BLACK HEARTED COAL

            I have noticed that when someone isn’t smart enough to come up with a decent comment or answer, they have to use foul language or use the term racism.
            You just aren’t very smart.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jana,
            All that coal dust has clouded his mind and eyes!!

      • Jana

        Thamara,
        smilee has run out of thoughts and arguments and even words. So now he has to resort to using his garbage breath to spout out garbage words.

  • David

    I’m happy Osama Bin Zilla is dead, I’ve been happy about it for years now.

    • JC

      Gee do ya think?
      This is nothing more than a publicity stunt.

  • Eddie47d

    No sense C.C.; I only worship God and wish the best for any President. Liberals don’t worship Obama and he is not the Messiah. Those are you’re misguided talking points.

    • Thamera

      You might want to fill Smilee in on that Eddie47. LOL

      • smilee

        Smilee knows and has said many times these are the talking points of the far right, the party known for their creation and maintenance of lies

        • Thamera

          And now your talking in the first person! Did you miss taking your meds today? ahahahahahahahhahahahaahhaha

        • JC

          Naw you guys are perfectly rational people capable of articulate, critical thinking and would never get caught up in socialist “groupthink”

          Yes we can Yes we can Yes we can Yes we can Yes we can (Zeig Heil) Yes we can Yes we can Yes we can Yes we can….

        • Jay

          smilee, what level of education did you manage to attain, grade 2?

          • Jana

            Jay,
            No he couldn’t make it to 2nd grade, his IQ wasn’t high enough.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jana,
            come on! He’s just s….l….o…w!!! After six years he finally made it to the third!!!!

          • smilee

            JANA

            FOR SOMEONE WHO IS BITCHING ABOUT MY GARAGE BREATH YOU SOMEHOW MANAGE TO LIVE WITH YOUR BREATH EVEN THOUGH ITS STENCH IF FAR MORE FOUL SMELLING

  • Amy Beth

    You all are the best entertainment I’ve ever had!

    • Thamera

      That it is. I haven’t laughed so hard all day!

    • Jana

      Amy Beth,
      You are so right. You liberals just like those trained monkeys are so funny and so very predictable.

      • Amy Beth

        I could say the same about conservitives too. Obama is a socialist, Obama is a communist, Obama wants to raise your taxes, Obama was born in Kenya, Obama is a muslim. Oh wait, that’s more like a Parrot just repeating what it hears over and over and over. Ha!

        Sorry, I had to say it.

        • smilee

          NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!!

          • Thamera

            Is that where BITCH comes in Smilee? LOL

        • Jana

          Amy Beth,
          Sorry for what???? Telling the truth for a change? It hurt that bad huh?

        • Jay

          Amy Says: I could say the same about conservitives too. Obama is a socialist, Obama is a communist, Obama wants to raise your taxes, Obama was born in Kenya, Obama is a muslim. Oh wait, that’s more like a Parrot just repeating what it hears over and over and over. Ha!
          Sorry, I had to say it.

          Jay Says: I could say the same about democrats too. Obama is not a socialist, Obama is not a communist, Obama wants to lower your taxes, Obama was born in Hawaii, Obama is not a muslim. Oh wait, that’s more like a Parrot just repeating what it hears over and over and over. Ha!
          I’m sorry I had to say that too, Amy.

    • Lostwages

      Way too much fun! You’ve got a love these government trolls! LOL!

    • Jay

      Amy, you must lead a very dull life!

  • CJM

    I thought the article would indicate what some of the foreign leaders had to say about bin Laden’s death, but all we have are snippets from Boehner and Pelosi. I have looked on the internet for European reactions and they are cautious at best. Furthermore, there is little said about Pakistan’s reaction (although there was a photo of an angry mob when the news was given) or from the al-qaeda group itself. Doesn’t anyone find this rather curious? There was one group, the Taliban, that issued a statement that bin Laden has been dead for years (but doesn’t clarify how they were able to make all those threatening videos over the years using a dead man).

  • chuckb

    lets all thank donald trump. without trump bin laden might still be alive and the birth certificate, even though probably a fake, wouldn’t have shown up. i believe they have known where bin laden was for some time and barry was using him as an ace in the hole, when trump put the pressure on him his poll ratings hit the skids and the election is drawing near “bam” bin laden dies. all the sheep admire their messiah again, all is forgiven. barry most likely was holding the bin laden card for next years election and trump trumped him.

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      Chuckb,

      April 27, 2011

      “The good news is, President Obama was born in America. The bad news is, so was Donald Trump.” –Jay Leno

      “Today President Obama released his long-form birth certificate, proving once and for all he was born in this country. But you know, it never ends. Now Republican leaders are saying they want to see the placenta.” –Jay Leno

      “Did you see Donald Trump today? He said, ‘I’m very proud of myself because I accomplished something no one else was able to accomplish.’ So basically Trump is taking credit for President Obama proving that everything Trump has been saying for the last year is a bunch of crap.” –Jay Leno

      “After releasing the birth certificate today, he said ‘There’s work to be done, there are real problems in this country, and we don’t have time for this silliness.’ Then he and Michelle got on a plane and flew to Chicago to tape an episode of Oprah.” –Jay Leno

      “It’s the 75th anniversary of the introduction of Social Security checks. For the younger viewers who don’t know what a Social Security check is, you’ll never see one in your lifetime, so don’t worry about it.” –Jay Leno

      “The man who invented the teleprompter has died at the age of 91. When President Obama heard the news, he was speechless.” –Jay Leno

      “Levi Johnston is now writing a book about the Palin family. He’s not writing it himself. He’s using a ghost moron.” –Jay Leno

      “President Obama finally showed his birth certificate and it turns out he was born in Hawaii, of all places.” –Jimmy Kimmel

      “These people could have personally witnessed him being born out of an apple pie, in the middle of a Kansas wheat field, while Toby Keith sang the National Anthem – and they’d still think he was a Kenyan Muslim.” –Jimmy Kimmel

      “Next up, we ought to say we don’t believe he’s a man and refuse to let it go until he releases his penis.” –Jimmy Kimmel

      “I’m surprised Donald Trump isn’t investigating whether Hawaii is an official state. A lot of vowels over there and not enough consonants.” –Jimmy Kimmel

      “Sarah Palin has written two books, her daughter Bristol has a book coming out – and now Levi Johnston is writing one too. Who would’ve ever guessed that America’s greatest literary dynasty would come out of an igloo?” –Jimmy Kimmel

      “Levi and the publisher already have a title worked out for the book. It’s called ‘I Need Money’ by Levi Johnston.” –Jimmy Kimmel

      “It’s a beautifully, lovely spring day. It was so nice down in Washington that President Obama was out on the White House lawn making a kite out of his birth certificate.” –David Letterman

      “President Obama released his long-form birth certificate yesterday. So we found the birth certificate. Now it’s on to bin Laden.” –David Letterman

      “Fifty percent of Americans think Donald Trump would make a terrible president. The other 50 percent think he would make an awful president.” –David Letterman

      • Dale on the left coast

        Birth Certificate? At a hospital named in 1978, a race called “African”??? A document that can be separated into “Layers” in Illustrator (a Graphics program for those that don’t know).
        The BC was a “Created” document not a scan of an Existing BC.

        • smilee

          SPIN SPIN SPIN IT’S OBVIOUS IT HAS MAD YOU DIZZY!!

          • Trish P

            Smilee: Spin??!! Don’t you even have the intellectual curiosity to try it yourself? Dale on the Left Coast is exactly right. The supposed BC has NO OFFICIAL EMBOSSED SEAL. It’s a forgery that can be opened with Adobe Illustrator and is made up of many layers, including masking layers. The number in the upper right corner is OUT OF SEQUENCE (compare to the BC of the Nordyke twins, born a day after Obama, but with earlier numbers). “African” is NOT a race–in 1961 it should either be Negro or Negroid. Many other errors!! It’s a bad forgery at that!

          • smilee

            THEY BOTH HAVE THE SEAL, HOW IS IT YOUR SO MISINFORMED????????????

      • Jay

        coal miner, don’t you have a life? You actually watch these shows?

    • Jay

      Absolutely chuckb, no doubt Donald Trump scared the crap out of our Muslim President! It seems, Jay Leno and David Letterman are worried as well! No doubt Donald Trump would shut down the gravy train, so naturally, the lazy azz libertards have their panties in a bunch!

  • http://n/a Terry

    Where are all the moralists, aka liberals if it is PC, that blasted Bush for torturing or whatever, now that this faux president has sent out an assassination team? Or was it a posse to arrest him and bring him to justice? Isn’t that what we are supposed to do? A lot of people are even against the death penalty. I presume they are also against assassinations?

    On the other side of the coin killing hostage takers during an attempt to rescue the hostages seems socially acceptable. And I guess shooting back in an attempt to arrest someone is socially acceptable depending upon your view about whether people are innocent until proven guilty. Or can we just storm compounds anywhere in the world sort of like a lynch mob? Again, when will the govt decide to storm your house?? We could be on the verge of being terrorists ourselves.

    This is not a bleeding heart, feeling sorry for bin L post. If one lives by the sword, chances are they will die by the sword. Are we a nation that has the rule of law, or are we a nation that acts islamic? The people that wrote the Constitution couldn’t trust the king to be benevolent? Or to even be fair. So they created a type of govt where the power of govt is limited and further limited by dividing up the power among three branches. Today we can’t trust govt to be benevolent or fair either, but we can expect it to obey the law. It being the eleceted officials. With all the deficit spending going on it is hard to think in terms of the govt being fair. They are taxing the workers and giving it to organizations that are too big to fail. These orgs get the money, we get the debt! Plus there are too many special interest groups that are given tax money. This does not include churches.

    Our Constitution is a document that places political restraints on elected officials, or used to except for glitches like women not being allowed to vote and slavery. Unfortuntely there are no financial restraints on the govt so it, in a bipartisan way, is uncontrolled in their spending habits! Essentially enslaving all the taxpayers! O seems to resent having political restraints on his actions as our faux president. e.g. he declared war on Libya and attacked this nation. Is this his version of shock and awe? One of his reasons was to prevent the slaughter of civilians? But what about the rebels? Who is arming them? And all the other places in the ME where attacks on their govt are being made? And what is their motive for this unrest? To get rid of dictators? And then what? Our revolution came after a constitutional convention drew up our form of govt, then issued a Declaaration of Independence. Suppose foreign operatives are stirring up trouble in the ME? For what purpose? To assure freedom? Or to assure an islamic revolutionary type govt, a la Iran?

    • smilee

      YOU REMIND ME OF A DOG CHASING ITS TAIL, JUST KEEPS GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES MAKING HIMSELF DIZZY

      • Thamera

        Not getting enough attention Smilee so now everything has to be in CAPS? Or is that your feeble attempt at validating your very comical statements? Take your meds and go for a walk. You might feel better.

        • smilee

          Do not need any meds just knowing I get under your skin makes me feel better~~

          • Thamera

            sorry to disappoint Smilee…the only regard I have for your vapid comments are for sheer entertainment. I’m not the one coming “unhinged” and SHOUTING AT POSTERS and resorting to one word exploitives to try and make a point – all very good signs that the person resorting to that type of rhetoric is desperate, illogical, ill-founded and unhinged. Kind of like the little “ankle biter” that I described earlier in another post which by the way is a euphemism, RicSeags…LOL!

            And, I stand by what I said Edie47…at the end of the day it all amounts to a lot of grandstanding, none of which is going to do the American people any good and if you and Smilee don’t think the price of gas is an issue or inflation, or that NYC just awarded a 10 year contract to Nissan (hahahaha) then what more is there to say except keep those blinders on!

          • smilee

            I NEVER SAID A WORD ABOUT THE PRICE OF GAS, WHERE YOU COMING FROM. I KNOW YOU HAVE NOTHING INTELLIGENT TO SAY ABOUT THE SUBJECT SO JUST CHANGE IT

        • Jay

          Thamera, there you have it. It is only when smilee is getting under someone’s skin that his life has meaning. That, is his medication!

          • smilee

            AM I REALLY GETTING UNDER YOUR SKIN?? ARE YOU THIN SKINNED???????????

      • Jay

        And you smilee, remind us of a dog who is always sticking his nose up someone’s butt!!! Woof, woof, sniff sniff..

      • Average Joe

        smilee,

        Personal experience in the tail chasing delimma?

        If that is the thing that makes you “feel better”…seems to me you need to find a hobby to occupy yourself, since you obviously have no life…..and “meds” probably “are” in order….for you……I recommend 500 Mg. of Thorazine three time a day.

        • smilee

          YOUR FULL OF SPECULATIONS AND YOU MISSED ON EVERY ONE

  • http://com i41

    It wasn’t that big of a deal to get Binny Boy, Pakistan and the liberials are giving American tecknology to our enemies just Whorehound did for the Chinese in exchange for campaign funds. Biden spent time over there to get the deal of selling drones to this f–ked up country. Hillary will do what ever it takes to make a deal and she has been going over there quit a bit in the past year, chech out her travels. The cards had just about played out for the pedophile muslim and his bargining power was wanning. Over a year ago Bin laden was supposedly spotted, but disinformation said it was wrong person. Onumnutts didn’t just make a quick descision, as usually it was a year of dithering and waiting for the most mileage to help his falling numbers. Even the military stated the teams had been practicing the plan for a long time of gettting Osama, as well as all the what ifs. Why wasn’t stun rounds or concusion gernades used as well as flash gernades, to blind. All could have been implemented and used to subdo this compound, is a mystery. We got KSM with a lot of planning. This was a sure plan to take no prisoners, down to the swim with the fishes and the muslim handling of the corpse. End results were a given and the plan was excuted. Just like the latest bc is being pointed out as another phony peice of paper. edee you had better thank the catholic church and all the preists and nuns that taught your relatives how to read and write and behave, the only problem was that as generational wards of the government has ruined your race, someone has to take care of all of you. Glad you are a Christian and not a mother earther moon god worshipper pervert

  • Dale on the left coast

    The only way I would believe Obummer killed Osama . . . is if I saw a video of Barry beating Osama to death with his Teleprompter!!!

    • Raggs

      LOL :)

      • Bert Cundle

        Oboma needed Campain money from the reward, set in Bins head!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Dale,
      He would NEVER do that with his teleprompter!!! He can’t get along without it!!!

  • always right

    Why praise blackbarry at all? He didn’t do diddly-poop here. The praise goes entirely to the spooks who found him and the boots that killed his mangey ass. blackbarry had nothing to do with this other than sign the order so that he could pretend to be a warrior princess for his next elesction.

    • bob wire

      Ah! a poster child for the extreme far Right ~ I know your mother is proud!

  • http://com i41

    Dale, he actually wwould be kiling Osama be giving him a heart attack and performing CPR at the wrong orfice. Creating an air emboblism, throwing a clot, leading to a massive stroke, all because wanted to have a beer summit.

  • chuckb

    one thing about barry, when he does something of note, you know there’s a political motive behind it. it’s obvious as 141 commented. they knew where bin laden was for some time and barry was waiting to pull his plug next year when the election drew near.
    it goes to show what a disgrace the democratic party has become and it started with bill clinton. they have become a party of liars, con artist and anti american. they knew barry was a fraud and he continues to prove that with everything he does. his religion, birth certificate and his anti american feelings and especially his cabinet appointments.

  • Average Joe

    I am not going to sugar coat my thoughts on the issue of OBL….but rather see the situation from a “logical” point of view…..Accused in the media, tried in the media and convicted in the media….but not in a court of law, where the truth would be found…one way or the other.
    As for him being dead….I have no idea whether he is or not, all I know is that is what is being said by “officials” and “media players” (AKA The Ministry of Propaganda).As to whether he is guilty or not, again…all I know is what has been said by those same outlets…and since he won’t be going to trial to find out the answer to that question…I guess we will never know the real truth of the matter. Since OBL was at one time a CIA asset, he had inside information that could have been potentially damaging to the US Government concerning hidden policies and agendas. I don’t believe that they ever had intentions to bring OBL to “justice” (a court trial) for fear of those policies and agendas becomming public. Use the brains that God gave you for critical thought…rather than believing whatever your government and media tell you is the truth.

    No statement should ever be believed simply because it is made by an “authority”.

    • Jay

      Average Joe, wonderfully stated! And Btw, it was very logical. Yet, people who are skeptical are viciously attacked on this blog!

      • Eddie47d

        Then that applies to Mitt Romney,Glenn Beck,Fox News,Sarah Palin,Ann Coulter,Donald Trump. I guess you are saying don’t trust anyone so that would include the Breitbarts etc.

        • Jay

          I used the word skeptical in regards to the news, with no proof, of Bin Laden’s supposed assassination, Eddie! Pay attention!

          • Average Joe

            Jay, don’t waste your time on Eddie…he’s just along for the trolling….he’s the proverbial “Ant invasion at a picnic”….an irritant, nothing more.

        • Average Joe

          Eddie47d,

          There’s an old saying that you should learn…it is very simple…I believe even you could understand it (although I do have to wonder sometimes). It goes something like this:

          “Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see”.

          • skip

            But if you won’t listen and won’t look, you are indeed lost. And that is what I see on this blogosphere – you only hear what you yourselves say, and see only what you want. Hopeless!

          • Average Joe

            Doing self analisys Skippy?…..good for you!It’s about time….

  • Marcia Kirschbaum
    • Jana

      Marcia K,
      Tell that to the ones who are trying to take us over. Tell that to the ones who want to kill us.

      • Marcia Kirschbaum

        And who would that be, that you think is “trying to take us over and kill us”? This whole party-based bunch of crap is asinine. How will anything good for any of us ever take place, when all we do is call names and bash each other? It doesn’t have to be this way. The mess we’re in cannot be blamed fully on any President, it’s been in the making for decades. Behaving like this is making it so much worse.

        • Jana

          Marcia K,
          And with all of your anger issues, you are helping …how?

  • Antonio

    “no matter how long it takes,justice will be done”
    Well i’m still waiting for some justice to be done. For 10 we have chased to wrong guy. It would be funny if it wasn’t such a serious thing. Now everybody is all jolly about ol’bins death yeah right. The real true masterminds behind 9/11 are still alive and well and probably laughing at you too. And while they laugh at you they are preparing for their next “terrorist attak”

  • nw

    I read in the Europe Union Times today that Bin Laden has been on ice the past decade, makes sense. Lies Lies and more Lies

    • smilee

      SO WHY YOU SPREADING THEM??????????

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        smilee

        1)paranoid shhizophrenia
        Pronunciation:*paranoid
        Examples(Jana, Nr,and Jc
        Function:adjective
        1 : characterized by or resembling paranoia or paranoid schizophrenia
        2 : characterized by suspiciousness, persecutory trends, or megalomania
        3:Zenophobia(fear strangers or foreigners)

        • Average Joe

          coal miner,
          You left out the phobia that seems to affect liberals (such as yourself).

          Gnosiophobia: The fear of knowledge.

          • bob wire

            you mean propaganda? ~ there is a difference you know?

          • Average Joe

            Bob, Look up the definition of the word that I posted (Gnosiophobia)…Now, considering that I posted that word and not propaganda…..and that I know the difference between the two words….Feel free to speculate that I posted the word that I intended to post. Next, look up the definitions to Opinionated and Uninformed…and speculate that I intended those definitions just for you. Although I appreciate your attempt to put your own spin on what I meant to say, your opininated and uninformed help is not needed…..Now, go act like the typical fly that you are…and go bother someone else. Your drivel has been duly noted and properly filed away….. in my shredder.

          • bob wire

            Just one time, ~ I’d like to hear what you people think you are so “informed” about without resorting to some diabolical economic conspirator(s) that been operating in the shadows for a 100 years and working toward “global domination” ~~ like it’s some kind of new revelation to only the chosen enlightened one!

            Good grief ~ mister , that’s been buzzing around for many, many years and while there is some truth to it ~ I’m refusing to be overwhelmed by the thought and see the devil everywhere one might look, living in constant fear, afraid to engage the day, frozen like a deer in headlights.

            Just how long do you plan on living? ~ Live today well! it’s the only day that you have.

            If I died today, ~ I would be pleased with the day.

          • Average Joe

            Bob,
            Replying to the wrong post?…or were you replying to NW?…Sorry, I had to ask for clarity.

        • JC

          coal miner says:

          May 3, 2011 at 4:54 pm

          smilee

          1)paranoid shhizophrenia
          Pronunciation:*paranoid

          ____________________________________________________________

          That’s impressive CM. I didn’t think YOU could cut and paste words that big. ;)

      • Jay

        smilee, you should’t masturbate to obama’s photographs while typing, the multiple question marks suggests you had a good orgasm!!! You go boy!

        • Average Joe

          LMAO……call in the clean up squad!

          • Jay

            You’re right Average Joe, that was lamo and wasn’t called for. My apologies to smilee!

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        smilee,

        They ARE SUFFERING FROM A COMPULSIVE DISORDER KNOWN AS (mythomania OR PSUDOLOGIA FATASTICA)

        mythomania also known as pseudologia fantastica or pathological lying) is a condition involving compulsive lying by a person with no obvious motivation. The affected person might believe their lies to be truth, and may have to create elaborate myths to reconcile them with other facts

        -Wikipedia

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      nw,
      Man,are you for real?

      • Average Joe

        coal miner,
        Are you?…Inquiring minds want to know!

    • Jay

      nw, this, for sure, applies to smilee and coal miner.

      gullible
      adjective
      credulous, naive, overtrusting, overtrustful, easily deceived, easily taken in, exploitable, dupable, impressionable, unsuspecting, unsuspicious, unwary, ingenuous, innocent, inexperienced, unworldly, green; informal wet behind the ears, born yesterday. ANTONYMS suspicious.

      Some people will believe anything. Those who are truly gullible are the easiest to deceive, which is why they so often make fools of themselves.

      • Eddie47d

        Is that why you let this nation march into Iraq?

        • Jay

          Like you let this nation march into Afghanistan?

          • JIBBS

            Don’t forget Libya!

          • Eddie47d

            I don’t believe Obama attacked Afghanistan but you can believe your Republican version all you want.

        • Thamera

          hey Eddie47, what year is this? Just sayn

  • Raggs

    I think this is a sceen from the wizard of oz.

  • hunter

    How dare you all for slighting Obomba on this his latest conquest. He spent several months in Pakistan hunting and searching for bin laden. Ohh ok so maybe he didn’t, but with his miltary experience, that is what got bin laden caught and killed. Ohh… well.. At least now maybe he will get some credit for his experience as a community organizer, and his year as a senator. I can envision the paperwork involved in the final day to give his ok to start the assination of bin laden…. a half sheet of paper, with two boxes, check one for YES, go get him. and one for NO, don’t go. I surmise a big crayola was involved too.

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    Ronald Reagan( racial jokes)

    How can you find the Pole at a cockfight?

    He’s the one with the duck.

    How can you tell the Italian at a cockfight?

    He’s the one that bets on the duck.

    How can you tell that the Mafia runs the cockfight?

    The duck wins.10

    • bob wire

      ha! ha! I like

      • Thamera

        SAD

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Thamera,
          want to keep coal miner busy?? Tell him to stand in the corner in a round room!! (hey! it’s just as good as HIS was!!!

  • Jay

    The assassination of Al-Qaeda’s leader, Osama Bin Laden, in Pakistan’s Abbottabad is a story that has been manufactured by US Intelligence to target the Asian country, says investigative journalist Webster Tarpley.
    ­
    There was a careful build-up, observes Tarpley, with harsh statements condemning Pakistan in terror reports by the US government. Admiral Mike Mullen visited Pakistan in late April, accusing them of being accomplices of the terrorist network Haqqani. Wikileaks reported a CIA operation targeting Pakistan as well, while, according to the US, most of Al-Qaeda’s plans have been formulated in that country.

    Surprisingly, Washington is openly supporting Al-Qaeda forces, which represent a large part of the Benghazi rebels’ council in Libya, points out Webster Tarpley. In Libya and in Yemen Al-Qaeda is the main tool used by Washington to destabilize the local governments and there is speculation that in Syria and Algeria this is also the case. “But then, in a sharp contradiction, if you are Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan or Pakistan, you have to be bombed,” remarks Tarpley.

    “What we actually see is the decline of the US empire. If you look back at the fall of the Spanish, the French, the British empires – in those cases the fall of the empire has been accompanied by world wars. If the US decides to go after Pakistan, they will get into a collision with China. At that point, Russia will also have to respond in some way. What you see is how the decline of an empire can lead to a war by miscalculation,” says Tarpley.

    “The US ruling elite is in a frenzy as they try to prevent Saudi Arabia and Pakistan from leaving the Empire. That is why Washington has chosen to liquidate the billions of dollars they have invested into the mythological figure of Bin Laden,” Tarpley believes.

    “The main danger now is false-flag terror events, in reality organized by the US or by NATO intelligence that will be blamed on Pakistan. Indeed, we have heard that from several CIA people in the media, saying there will be revenge terror attacks, but they will be coming from the Inter-Services Intelligence network – that is the much demonized ISI of Pakistan. This is a complete set-up,” concludes Tarpley.

    http://rt.com/news/washington-pakistan-bin-laden/

    • Eddie47d

      I thought you weren’t gullible Jay?

      • Jay

        Unlike you Eddie, I like to consider all points of view, you should try it!

        • Eddie47d

          Been way ahead of you Jay.

  • Bert Cundle

    Well… Uncle Bin DEAD… Took longer to kill him than J.F.K. & M.L.K. & Sadam Husane… Who is next? The Pope? ( Should be Bush Sr. & Jr.!!!)

    • Bert Cundle

      Now… No Trial — No Corpse — No Truth,,, Our Tax $ At Work…

  • http://n/a Terry

    What say ye now? The Wright House now says bin L was not armed. So, directed by O, our people have killed an unarmed man. This is justice terrorism, islamic style. Not supposed to be our style. And they, liberals, brought our service men to trial for incidents in Iraq involving civilians. They were not seeking justice, just political gain! Our govt is beyond corrupt. It is unprincipled. And it appears that O is leader of the pack. And where is move on? Not a peep out of them, the no more war people, over our war in Libya.

    • bob wire

      We had no interested in what he had to say and was just wasting air.

      He was resisting by hiding and being defiant to the international community. He choose his demise with his behavior as a combatant and conspiring against the free world.

  • chuckb

    terry, good point, however, just think if they brought obl out alive what a clamor where to try him. holder and barry would want a public trial where their lawyer friends could reap millions in trial fees and the chance he could be turned free due to not being read his miranda rights.

    • bob wire

      It was decided early on by the administration/ advisers and expatiated accordingly. No lose ends, not gray areas with exit contingency plans ~ all the deciding was over when these soldiers unassed the bird. They were there to extract the body of Usama and gather intell. Nothing less , nothing more.

      • JIBBS

        I thought you quit crybaby!

        • bob wire

          You think too much.

          It’s just a “drive by”

          also be prepared and stand ready to defend your statements.

          I’ll be back

          • bob wire

            crybaby? ~ where does that come from?

            This whole thread is Tea Party whine! In fact the whole darn site is Tea Party crying and whining. A PITY PARTY for the disenfranchised, people that refuse to cope & contend with reality, choosing to rather create a altered reality with their own hero’s and news agencies, networks and authors that go so far as to rewrite history.

            It’s hard to not be attracted to the carnival and see snake boy, bearded lady, cow with 6 legs and the Lizard Lady.

      • Jana

        bob,
        Sure it was…in your dreams.

  • chvietvet

    Funny how everybody gives credit to politicians and bureaucrats for finally getting bin Laden. How many months will it be before I start seeing some of the heroes who participated in the successful raid begging for quarters at freeway exits, just like the combat veterans of the Vietnam War had to do?

    • Jana

      As the weeks unfold we will be seeing a lot more to this story than what is out now. The real truth has a way of coming out.

  • jopa

    It would be nice if the seal team, chopper pilots and everyone directly on the ground in the Abbottabad action could split the reward that was on Bin laden’s head.However that’s not how our military works.The true heroes in this mission we may never know who they are except for the ones at the top.

    • bob wire

      hmm? I have a high bar for the title of hero. ~ If you use the word loosely it develops a lesser meaning.

      These men were gallant and possessed a highly developed sense of valor.

      They have my sincere respect and deepest sense of gratitude.

      The hero would be the one that gave their all, thankfully it was not to be.

      • Jana

        bob,

        Actually you have a low bar for what a hero is.

        A true hero is someone who puts his life on the line whether he wants to or not, or whether he is scared or not.
        A true hero is one that always does the right thing regardless of conseqences or pressure.
        Thankfully a true hero doesn’t always have to die.
        A true hero is not like the leftist who needs to take the credit for what someone else does and most of the time they don’t even get credit for what they accomplish.
        Most true heroes are not even the ones that receive the medals.
        Take Obama for instance. He is a good example of someone trying to take all of the credit. Instead he should be thanking the ones who have set all of this in place before he ever came into office such as George Bush, GITMO, and all of the groundwork and sacrifice that has been done these past 8 years to get this done. Furthermore he should be thanking the military for their service, but no he wants to rob them and take all of the credit, and yet, it took him 16 hours to make this decision.

        • bob wire

          Jana, ~ I served with some hero’s and have little interest with your thoughts on the matter.

          • Jana

            Bob,
            You have little interest with anything that is common sense.
            You served Ha thats a laugh. You only serve yourself.

          • bob wire

            jana, I’d have no reservation comparing DD214′s with anyone here and allow US military documents to render “answers” to such questions that you seem to believe you hold some authority.

            Go outside child and spare us your banter.

          • Jana

            bob wire-less

            Why, because you SAID so?
            HA HA! You who THINK you are an authority on EVERYTHING have been caught too many times saying things that you claim you know all about but in fact, have no idea what you are talking about. Old man, you bluff good, but all you are is hot air.
            You may have been in the military but I wouldn’t want to be in the same unit with you as who could trust you? You’re posts show a very unstable man full of self.
            My family has real heroes who have served and gone beyond the call of duty.
            A true hero is NOT a coward.
            Personally, you talk a good bluff, but from how YOU have represented yourself I think you would turn and run.

          • bob wire

            You are a spry things Jana ~ I’ll give you that ~ but the intent here is to “add” something to the topic and not take away from it.

            Okay, ~ everyone that served in the Armed Forces is deserving the title of “hero” ~ okay?

            You feel better with that?

            I wish that maybe you might join up and serve a hitch or two and be a member is this special club, then you might bring something to the table today beside ~ “my family members were hero’s” hence I hold some authority of such matters.

          • Jana

            bob wire,
            You bet I have some authority on the matter buster! I lived through some terrible times waiting, praying and living through ordeals that you could never imagine.
            And yes, I said your dreaded word PRAYING!!!.
            The families of those that serve go through a living nightmare waiting to hear if their loved ones have made it through that last horrific mission. If you are so halfwitted that you cannot comprehend that then you are more bereft of human feelings than you portray.
            DON’T YOU DARE PUT DOWN THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF OUR TROOPS!!!!!
            It is so obvious that you have NO IDEA what a hero is, but I wouldn’t expect YOU to.
            *********
            Your IDIOTIC statement “Okay, ~ everyone that served in the Armed Forces is deserving the title of “hero” ~ okay? **********
            just proves my point!

            As I said before you are a man of many absurd words that absolutely have no meaning or value. Pathetic comes to mind.

          • bob wire

            I see! so you had a dog in the fight and so you know all about the dog and the fight.

            I got it! No DD214, no discharge, no sleeping in the mud surrounded by your buddies and all of you lonely, homesick, fighting bugs,bullets, rotting feet and Dear John letters.

            But you are an authority on such thing.

          • Jana

            bob,
            I said I had SOME authority on the subject, unlike you who thinks and acts like you are the ULTIMATE AUTHORITY on EVERYTHING.
            Wow you must have a very big head as you think so much of yourself. Besides if you were boots on the ground you were probably facing the wrong way.
            Remember, you’re the one who thinks all hero’s have to be dead.
            **********
            As you stated, “The hero would be the one that gave their all, thankfully it was not to be************

          • bob wire

            there are some exceptions, but not many Jana.

            It really put some meaning in the word “Hero” doesn’t it?

            I was no hero, just a solider that was privileged to know a few.

    • Thamera

      This I agree with Jopa.

    • Cawmun Cents

      I think we should send a extra big bundle of bacon to the city of Abottleofbeer Krapistan,as a token of our gratitude for keeping Bin Hidin there so we could swing in and dust his junky ass off.OR WOULD THAT BE TOO POLITICALLY INCORRECT FOR SOME OF YOU.-CC

  • chuckb

    the media keeps calling barry “gutsy” for sending the seals in to eliminate obl. any president sitting in the oval office has only to pick up the phone and give the military the ok for this mission, now are we supposed to call this “gutsy”. the men who accomplished this mission are the ones deserving the title “gutsy”
    that jerk, sheppard smith on fox news called this the military’s greatest accomplishment, i beg to differ. the liberals are all looking for something to glorify their president, something that can’t be done.
    i don’t take anything away from the seals, they are absolutely great and this was a spectacular operation and i feel proud for them. when you start calling these kind of operations the greatest military achievements then you better read some more history this was only one of them.

  • tommy

    why did they have to shoot him dead, could it be because he worked for the cia during the time the russians were in afghanistan and he was the one that supplied weapons to the resistance groups fighting the russians, the weapons were supplied by the c.i.a. and was their go-between with the resistance groups including the talaban.If they had captured him maybe he may have had informaion that could have information that could have embarrassed the cia and the federal government.

  • ted zedek

    With each passing day it looks more and more likely that the Right’s smear machine will not be nearly as effective as it was when it lied its way to victory in 2000 and 2004. We The People are on to your
    dirty tricks and your Goebbels-type characters will be confronted with truth and with vigor at every turn. Truth squads will be dogging
    your steps and challenging you until you are finally exposed as the
    Fascists you really are.

  • Kinetic1

    Jana,
    What DanAZ has laid out is an out of context fact or two. Laid out in a more meaningful manner it seems like nothing more than taking a night to weigh out the risks to our men and the likelihood of success.

    “Administration officials split over whether to launch the operation, whether to wait and continue monitoring until they were more sure that Bin Laden was really there….”

    My understanding is that the gave the odds at 50 to 80%. Since it there are questions as to wether any of our surveillance teams ever reported seeing Bin Laden at the site, that seems like something to consider.

    “[Defense Secretary Robert] Gates was skeptical about a helicopter assault, calling it risky, and instructed military officials to look into aerial bombardment using smart bombs….”

    Seems to me that someone here suggested that air strikes were never considered. Hmmm, I guess they know more than the folks who were there.

    “Last Thursday [] Mr. Obama met again with his top national security officials…. Around the table, the group went over and over the negative scenarios. There were long periods of silence, one aide said. And then, finally, Mr. Obama spoke: “I’m not going to tell you what my decision is now — I’m going to go back and think about it some more.” But he added, “I’m going to make a decision soon.”

    So there’s your context. A meeting where the Presidents top security advisors went over numerous potentially negative scenarios and what does the President do? He takes a night to consider all the options. Wow, what kind of leader does that?!

    “Sixteen hours later, he had made up his mind. Early the next morning, four top aides were summoned to the White House Diplomatic Room. Before they could brief the president, he cut them off. “It’s a go,” he said. The earliest the operation could take place was Saturday, but officials cautioned that cloud cover in the area meant that Sunday was much more likely.”

    So let’s see: if he had given the go ahead at the meeting they might have been able to move forward sooner, but the same cloud cover might also have been an issue. I can’t say for certain, but it sounds like whether or not the had the 16 hours Sunday was still the likely time. Yep, Dan really laid it all out.

    • Jana

      Kinetic1,
      Your understanding? You are going by news reports just like everyone else. What Dan Az reported is also what I heard too. I know that Obama FINALLY made a right decision, but having to wait 16 hours to make this decision after months of planning doesn’t give one much confidence in this Community Organizers abilities.

      • smilee

        AND JUST WHA REPORTS ARE YU GOING BY, HE GAVE HIS RATIONALE YOU DID NOT

  • http://com i41

    chuckb, this marxist muslim took over a year for the right conditions to do something. He isn’t gutsy, but a pusified queer who needs to be convinced to do something. Also how in the hell doeshe justify the enhanced interragation that was done on the courier? If it is a fact he outlawed enhanced interrogation the 2nd day in office. Of course the marxist muslim puke can not tell the truth, is a pathologial complusive liar, and sends someone else to do the dirty work. If OBL was armed does that make Onumnutts the murder of a unarmed wimp that was hiding behind a woman. If 2 Seals couldn’t have secured and made obl incapacated, Onumnutts was watching and sure wanted the pedophile pervert dead. Also how was it a iman was there to clean and do the moon god chants and give the corpse a send off? Had to pretty cordinated pretty close time frame. As well as a practice frame since August, before the jug eared one made a move, why was not this move done durning Ramadam, when the goat abuser are eating like hogs at night and eaier to subdo?

  • chuckb

    141. the more the bolsheviks praise this goat herder sitting in the white house the more sickening it is getting. you are right, it is kind of strange they had a mosque usher on board the vinson waitng and it took barry sixteen hours to decide what to do, that was probably a lie too. he was upset because trump has caused him to use his obl (ace)in the hole and didn’t know which way to go. sheppard smith said on fox news they eased his body into the sea, the last time i was on the vinson if i remember right the flight deck is about 14 stories above the water line, that must have been a very easy entrance to the sea. lol

  • Average Joe

    I found this while researching and thought I’d throw it out…make up your own minds…
    ………………………………………………………………………….
    In a speech in San Francisco on April 19, 2002, FBI Director Robert Mueller stated that, “In our investigation, we have not uncovered a single piece of paper-either here in the United States or in the treasure trove of information that has turned up in Afghanistan and elsewhere-that mentioned any aspect of the September 11 plot.” In the speech, there was a tone of underlying surprise in Mueller’s voice because he, like so many of us, had by that point accepted as self-evident truth the given narrative of 19 Arab hijackers under the direction of Osama bin Laden as the responsible perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks. And such a complex, well-orchestrated crime should have left a long paper trail and discarded pile of evidence for investigators to follow and pick up. But there was none. In fact, “the FBI’s (current) page on bin Laden as a ‘Most Wanted Terrorist’ does not list him as wanted for 9/11, and when asked why, a FBI spokesman said, ‘because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11′.”

    Kind of makes you wonder why OBL was really assasinated…maybe he knew too much?

    • http://N/A Susan

      To Average Joe;and others also;
      I Do not believe
      that Until 911 happened Americans except for all those that had been indoctrinated into the Islamic faith and by many that were only out to destroy AMERICA and AMERICANS. 911 WAS years in Planning What is the Best way to DESTROY YOUR ENEMY THAT YOU WANT TO DESTROY? INFILTRATE First WITH FRIENDSHIP. Especially When The Enemy you are wanting to destroy is nOt in agreement with Your Hatred FOR THEIR FRIENDS. Islam is not a friend of AMERICA, ENGLAND, THE FRENCH, OR ANY OTHER people that are a Friend Of a nother People Named Jewish Hebrews or Israel. Has anyone Come to understand this as yet. The English, French, America ALL Really do Understand the RIGHT FOR ISRAELIE JEWISH PEOPLE TO EXIST. IN THE LAND THEY HAVE TODAY BECAUSE OF IT IS PROMISED TO THEM. Like that Reality and Truth Or not TRUTH ABOUT the Land State People called ISRAEL, and Israelies Meaning JEWISH is a FACT, TRUTH THEY ARE HEBREWS. NOT ARABS, NOT AMERICANS, NOT ITALIAN, They are “HEBREW JEWISH ISRAELIES” HATED BY THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST such as The USAMA BEN LADEN’S, ARAFATS, and TODAYS AMADANIJADE’S and many OTHER’S That have yet to be recognized as Enemies OF HATRED FOR THE HEBREW JEWISH ISRAELIES AND ANYONE called and KNOWN as a FRIEND OF ISRAEL. and How many years have These people been TRULY HATED BY OTHERS??? just Because THEY are JEWISH HEBREWS.? Is ENGLAND, FRANCE, AMERICA, Now Finding out what began with the HOLOCOST OF ADOLPH HITLERS DEATH CAMPS, FURNACES, and SHOWERS OF NOT SHOWERS AT ALL INSTEAD OF WATER GAS TO MURDER MANY JEWS and YES OTHERS ALSO THAT WERE SYMPATHIZES. and SOME say The HOLOCOST never happened Whom is DEAF BLIND and IGNORANT OF this TODAY. Today the Indoctrination continues by some. and This is now being proven in the World We now are Living and Seeing SINCE a date In 2001 all that can remember WAS A ATTACK ON JUST ONE OF THE BEST FREINDS OF ISRAELIE JEWISH OF A STATE NAMED AND CALLED ISRAEL. Stop and Think … IF WE AS AMERICA and OUR FRIENDSHIP for THIS PEOPLE COUNTRY and LAND is NO MORE AND many are INDOCTRINATED TO JOIN the ENEMY OF SUCH HATRED .. AGAINST ore Proof will be needed. Usama may no longer be a Threat or leader MY thought is he Put another in as leader a while back. I just pray our Own Government Officials and OUR ALIES ARE AHEAD OF THE ENEMY.. OF AMERICA, FRANCE, ENGLAND, and any other Friends of a LAND CALLED ISRAEL AND THE ISRAELIE people called JEWISH.

      • Jana

        Susan,
        CLAP CLAP CLAP. That is my hands clapping for your post. Great Post.

      • Average Joe

        Although I had difficulty getting through your post, I don’t disagree with you. My post above was simply pointing out that while most of the people in this country associate OBL with 911…. the head of the FBI stated that they found no evidence supporting or linking him to any involvement in that tragedy.

        • Jana

          Average Joe,

          I understand what you were posting, and I also realize you were as they say, just the messenger and posting something you read. I was not putting you down.
          I remember after 9-11 Osama took credit for it. In that speech in Feb. 5 months after the fact, I don’t think they still knew too much of anything. There was so much information and disinformation going out. Osama took credit for it, and never denied it. He even sent out tapes of his bragging about it, so personally I believe he was behind it.
          Osama Bin Laden was an evil and vicious man. He deserved what he got.

          • Average Joe

            Jana,
            I appologize for not being specific. My reply was to Susan and not to you. I am sorry for the confusion…Your post was fine and readable. Susan’s post on the other hand was a labor to get through, with all of the upper and lower case sections and run-on sentences. It’s kind of hard to agree or disagree with someone…when you can’t understand exactly what they are trying to say.
            Again, sorry for the confusion.
            AJ

          • Average Joe

            BTW, whether OBL had anything to do with 911 or not, I honestly don’t know one way or the other. He has been linked to enough other terrorism to warrant his being hunted. As for the claim the he took credit for the attack, we must remember that any footage released by the government and media all contain the possibility of forgery and or tampering…(faked) as many of the releases during those years were obviously faked.
            I do take issue that they shot him point blank even though he was unarmed, that amounts to assasination and not “justice”. He should have been captured and placed on trial by the world court in order bring out the truth of the matter. Assasination tends to make me wonder…who was afraid of him and the information that may have come to light if he had actully been put on trial? It adds to the mystery and speculation of the entire afair.
            Without OBL being able to tell his side…we may never find out what the truth really is….At this point…there will be no “Justice”.

  • greywolf

    Thank God for George Bush & Dick Cheney, w/o whom, none of the events, (Seals Raid & Usama’s Death), would have been possible.
    Now we have to figure out how to get George Soros out of American Life & Politics.
    After Usama, He was the second Cancer, with whom, we have had to deal.
    Do not worry about the Kooks above, sending their stupid little remarks, they are dumber than rocks.
    To ChuckB, you are right, the ride must have been something, if He had been alive, His(mechanical)Heart would have given out.
    About a 2 minute ride.
    Please, no one cry for Him, he was a Barbarian as are his followers, ever watch the Indiana Jones Movie,(The Temple of Doom), he dealt with their sacrifices, as did Abbot & Costello.

  • http://N/A Susan

    I want Proof of his demise even though when you consider the ones that have yet to be named as the Next Leader for acertainty ENEMY to us ALL. Does the report of Usama’s death mean anything accept to prove another now must be found out whom their leader is and put that leader on the most wanted dead or alive list as Usama Was .. BEING VERY VIGILANT TO BE SAFE from THEM as Possible.If there is any such thing. SECURITY, Covert, all KNOWN friends MUST WORK TOGETHER knowing Whom OUR FRIENDS ARE. ?????? Oh and all the Cartels dealing in Drug trafficking , and Trafficking of Children Teens and Woman for MONEY THROUGH PROSTITUTION and ILLEGAL DRUGS is no help either is it?

    • Jana

      Susan,
      I don’t believe he has been ‘in charge’ for a while now. There is always someone out there to take his place. Someone meaner, stronger and much more evil than even Bin Laden was.
      What we are supposed to believe is they killed him and buried him within 2 hours. WHY? This just leaves too many unanswered questions. They say they have videos and of course if they are ever released we are supposed to believe these videos. With the technology that we have today, they could fabricate the whole thing and make it LOOK believable. Judge Judy is alsways stating,
      “If something doesn’t sound right, it generally isn’t true.”

      • Jana

        I am not stating that it isn’t true that they didn’t kill him, which was justice as far as I am concerned. The burying him within 2 hours sounds weird.

        • bob wire

          So Judge Jana, what would you personally do with a 6ft dead Arab if you was aboard a ship in the middle of the sea, thousand of mile away from home?

          I’m not sure why I even address you, ~ your shear absurdity I suppose, I find your thought patterns and responses almost preschool at times. I think that’s what it’s always been from the beginning. ~ Hallelujah Jana! Blessed are the children.

          Have you ever been confront with the problem of having a stiff on your hands? Have you ever been on a deep blue sea? It doesn’t sound like it Judge Jana. Everything unwanted goes over the side.

          It’s possible they might have kept the head,hand and foot to be disposed of later.

          • Jana

            bob,
            Actually, YOU appear like you are trying to be a judge, but you sound like you have no qualifications or ability to be one because it takes experience, WISDOM and knowledge to make good judgements. You prove yourself to be a self righteous biggot. You are indeed a man of many words with no knowledge and no wisdom in them.
            I would ask you if you have ever been on a ship with as you say a stiff on your hands, but I don’t believe you would even tell me the truth.
            Of course we ALL know that this ship was capable of handling a body, and even bringing it back to the states if necessary-duh.
            For an older man, you sure sound childish.

            Wait…Are you sure you aren’t a woman? You have the logic of a silly woman.

          • bob wire

            Perhaps I am a woman, how would that matter.

            Is knowledge and experience gendered and subject to discounting?

            A lot of men and women died to permit you this freedom to speak your mind.

            How about taking this hard fought “freedom” seriously for a change and be a meaningful part of the discussion?

          • Jana

            bob wire
            You should follow your own advice. I would add have a little common sense, but common sense has totally eluded you.

          • bob wire

            Hmm? Common Sense? So you are an authority on that too!

            Okay ~So you’ve got God matters covered, Righteousness and Pride mastered. The virtues of a solider in the bag, now if you could just get that inflated ego under control we could just refer to you as “Your Royal Hinee” and dispense with any humility.

          • Jana

            bob wire,
            You talk like a SILLY WOMAN. Most women have good common sense, but silly women like you give women a bad reputation. All you do is go around and around in circles.
            You have nothing good to say so you start calling names. In so doing you label yourself.
            Yes maam, you are a typical self righteous liberal.

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    HuffPost
    Araham Hooker

    No, the Hawaiian birth certificat­e allowed for self-ident­ification so the term recorded would have been whatever was declared by the parent. If you have a list of terms Hawaii provided as ethnic identifier­s in regards to parents ethnicity and filling out a birth certificat­e let’s see it, because every thing I’ve encountere­d indicates that these were self-ident­ifications­. Again, we’re not talking about what was on the census, we’re addressing terms in this document. The census has no relevance unless you can empiricall­y prove the state of Hawaii only allowed the use of terms found in the census as ethnic identifier­s, and, as noted, I have looked and find absolutely nothing to support that (other than the occasional post like your own). You also seem to be confused. Obama’s father wasn’t an American Negro, he was born in Africa, in a country where the term African was commonly used as an ethnic identifier­. Why would you think he would refer to himself as an American Negro when he was from Kenya? That is completely illogical.

    • bob wire

      Bright people tend to speak to their audience at their level, for clarity, understanding and the desire to identify and relate, often speaking in the third person.

      A black man in America ~ could be from many places ~ so what do you wish to call them for the sake of discussion?

      Blacks? ~ I have always referred to them simply as Negro’s ~ while that might offer offense to some, it is accurate. I don’t like to infer color, or colored or black as they are few that are truly black and color is not specific. ~ what color?

      There are African that are white as snow top mountains so when you start using simply color or names of colors as some identifier of race, you are fighting a losing battle.

  • Edmond

    Col. 1:15 He (speaking of Christ) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him

    • bob wire

      Okay, you regurgitated it. Now tell us what that means to “you”.

      Explain it as you would explain something to Grandmother.

      • Jay

        In regards to you bob wire, Edmond would have to explain it as one would try to explain it to the mentally and spiritually challenged! Edmond understands this, hence, the reason for his non-response.

      • bob wire

        well that’s certainly one way around it. ~ But Grandmother is not mentally or spiritually challenged.

        And you are correct of course, ~ It does take many years of study to understand the concepts offered in this verse and ever then it’s easy to be off the mark.

  • Jana

    Kinetic1,
    Your understanding? You are going by news reports just like everyone else. What Dan Az reported is also what I heard too. I know that Obama FINALLY made a right decision, but having to wait 16 hours to make this decision after months of planning doesn’t give one much confidence in this Community Organizers abilities.

    I also replied to both of your posts.

    • Eddie47d

      A well thought out decision serves it purpose better than a hastily made decision.

      • bob wire

        eddie, they are saying it was all “luck”!

        well? ~ It’s impressive luck!

        My guess, it’s the same luck that got “O” the 1st Chair position of the most powerful country the world has yet to know.

        43 could have done this years ago, but he lost focus and misdirected resources.

  • WayneT

    To all my Conservative Friends who loves the USA. We should just give up on those that seems to think Obama is the best. Well, one thing, we are paying very high price for our gasoline, and on all consumer goods, with Obama’s policies. The price on all consumer goods are going up, up and up, and the Liberals are happy about their president doing this. Keep up the good work Liberals and maybe we can get gasoline up to at least $6.00 a gallon before too long. I hope you have deep pockets. I would not vote for Obama if he was the last man standing.

    • bob wire

      Now if you can explain “O”‘s policies and how they are different from say 43′s policies and account for rising gas prices you would have made a good point.

      But since you haven’t I still don’t know who to be angry with!

      As I understand it, speculators on Wall Street and a leveraged 10 to 1 buying power is to account for recent increases much as it was when 43 was in office.

      I’m really annoyed with this state of affairs and want to kick the dog as well.

      • Jana

        YEP, that you. You described yourself perfectly. It all boils down to one word.

        CONFUSED.

      • bob wire

        speaking of gas prices, ~ Using the diversion of Usama demise being heavily covered by the news, today the House Republicans voted down DNC efforts to quit subsidizing the Oil Industry today. ~ Seems the GOP thinks that American Tax payers should continue to pay out millions of dollars every year to BIG OIL.

        Since the price for a barrel of oil is up 187% from per 9-11 prices and BIG OIL is posting record profit today ~ kinda makes you wonder why?

        Oh! still hiding under the current News Blitz, today the GOP also backing off on Ryan’s economic plan, ~~ seems they really don’t want to talk about it. I can’t imagine why ~ I was hoping they might continue with that plan and see what might come of it.

        • WayneT

          Bob, oil is only high due to Obama’s “no drilling” policies. I am sure you have heard that the EPA just pulled Shell’s Oil Company permits to drill in Alaska. Until we get a president who will support drilling in his country your going to have to pay these exorbitant prices. We should all know by now that Ohama is not for drilling. Nor is he for nuclear, or coal. Without this form of energy we will not have enough for everyone. Obama can fly in that big jet that belongs to you & me all over the world and waste that precious fuel. Is Obama driving an electric car? How woould he fly all over the world in an all electric plane? Something to think about, Bob. Do you think Obama worries about how much the taxpayer have to pay for all his frivolous trips flying all over the world? See below:

          A plane like a Boeing 747 uses approximately 1 gallon of fuel (about 4 liters) every second. Over the course of a 10-hour flight, it might burn 36,000 gallons (150,000 liters). According to Boeing’s Web site, the 747 burns approximately 5 gallons of fuel per mile (12 liters per kilometer).

          Maybe we should send him by car, or by ship. It would be a lot cheaper. Do you agree? If so, vote for a decent man who wants to bring this country out of the doldrums.

          • bob wire

            That can’t be an accurate statement Sir as it doesn’t account for recent rising prices or the fact that present US production is at an all time high.

            So back to my question, why would Big Oil enjoy tax payer subsidies while posting all time high profits?

            yes, I am aware of engine consumption, and Jets are fuel hogs ~ but Jets have a much longer service lives before required scheduled tear-downs and rebuild over reciprocating engines making them dollar for dollar more cost effective to operate.

            I am a Texan and I enjoy “some” of the benefit of the worlds “requirements” while I must buy and use the “stuff” as well. ~

            middle men are to blame for these recent increase and not any one administration but a system and a political party (the GOP) that protects Wall Street and resist any meaningful reform.

      • WayneT

        I was ticked off at Bush also fo his non drilling policies. I think he was trying to appease the left, or the greenies. Near the end of his last term he did give in and started to allow drilling in this country. Like I have stated many times on this forum, google “oil derivative”, and see if you wnat to give up all the things that we get from oil. The main things I see is asphalt for roadways, asphalt shingles, plastic and many more thing that makes our left more comfortable. Google this and see for yourself. Once you do I feel you will be against Obama’s “no drilling” policies as well. In fact I think any sane responsible person would.

  • rufusmin

    Wag the Dog! Wag the Dog!

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    You can bet your ass that there are lawyers in both the Justice and State Dept. who are burning the midnight oil trying to figure out how to try the SEALs for murder and exonerate BO.

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