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Pitfalls And Profits In The Wake Of The BP Spill

August 11, 2010 by  

Pitfalls And Profits In The Wake Of The BP Spill

“I think we should expand domestic exploration. My chances of doing that now are zero because of the oil spill.” Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)

The climate is changing. I am not talking about the record heat wave in the Northeast but rather the political climate in Washington, D.C., where the Greens are just beginning to capitalize on the Gulf Coast oil spill crisis.

The well that rests below the spot BP’s Deepwater Horizon once stood has spewed out almost 5 million barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico. That makes the BP oil spill the biggest ever, surpassing the Ixtoc I rig that gushed 3.3 million barrels into Mexico’s Bay of Campeche in 1979. For the environmentalists, the Gulf crisis is a once in a lifetime opportunity to re-shape Federal policies.

President Barack Obama has used the spill as a call to arms for clean energy. And he has put a freeze on new deepwater drilling; the result of which has nearly halted exploration in the Gulf of Mexico, including shallow water projects.

The Louisiana Department of Natural Resources reports that approved shallow water drilling permits in the Gulf have dropped significantly since the Federal moratorium was instituted. In fact, only four shallow-water permits have been issued since the Obama administration blocked deepwater drilling following the accident four months ago. Just four permits have been granted from May through July and those were for wells less than 500 feet deep. That compares to an average of 14 permits issued per month for the year before the moratorium.

The Obama administration is not going to let a little thing like the courts get in the way of its Green objectives. After a ruling against the six-month moratorium, the Obama administration issued a second ban on July 12 which won’t expire until December.

The oil industry is saying that Obama’s “keen to be Green” policies could eradicate hundreds of thousands of jobs in the Gulf and will start a mass exodus of rigs out of the region.

Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal has said the drilling ban only adds insult to an area already injured.

“New requirements for shallow-water drilling are causing permitting delays that could lead to significant additional economic impacts on top of those caused by the deepwater drilling moratorium,” Jindal said.

The Governor is worried about Louisiana’s economy, but a more pressing worry for Americans could soon be the price of gasoline. That is because the Gulf of Mexico supplies nearly 30 percent of United States domestic oil and gas production. As wells in the Gulf age and are not replaced, the U.S. will experience an accelerated decline in petroleum production. This is bad news for a nation which has already seen its energy output fall steeply. The U.S. is producing less than 5 million barrels of oil per day, the lowest production levels in 60 years

You may recall the dire warnings from President Jimmy Carter’s sweater clad Oval Office chats. It is worth noting that back then the U.S. was pumping almost twice the amount of oil as is being produced today. That Democratic President fussed that the nation wasn’t producing enough oil.

Decades later and with billions of barrels in reserves spent, President Obama is preoccupied with how to limit U.S. oil and gas exploration. This despite the fact that the U.S. is importing 13 million barrels of oil per day. That is almost 60 percent of U.S. oil consumption and it costs America $300 billion per year. That is just the fixed cost which will only increase as the price of petroleum rises.

Then there are additional costs. The U.S. military spends an estimated $100 billion a year to protect the flow of oil out of the Middle East. With higher crude prices the U.S. could soon be spending half a trillion dollars per year on imported oil. And that doesn’t account for two Middle East wars this past decade which have cost a trillion dollars and counting.

Furthermore, America’s involvement in the Middle East appears to only be deepening despite Obama’s claim to the contrary. While the President has withdrawn more than 90,000 troops from Iraq, he has tripled the U.S. contingent in Afghanistan to almost 100,000 soldiers. Meanwhile more U.S. troops died in Afghanistan last month than any month since the nine-year conflict began.

The move by Obama and Democrats to reduce oil exploration in the United States—offshore or otherwise—will only deepen America’s involvement in Middle East conflicts, and could perhaps lead to a war with Iran. The results of such a foray would destabilize the nation’s energy supplies and send the price of crude oil sharply higher.

Outlook
With crisis can come opportunities and such is the case with the BP spill. Crude oil prices have moved above the $80 per barrel mark and price momentum is on the upswing. Meanwhile President Obama promises to the Green lobby to restrict drilling will not only hamper domestic petroleum production; it will also deepen America’s involvement in the Middle East. That is a mix that could send crude oil prices above $100 per barrel before the end of this year.

 

With the exception of BP, I would buy and hold shares in Big Oil. One company that is moving in the right direction and has a lot of leverage to higher oil and gas prices is Talisman Energy Inc. (NYSE: TLM, $17.00).

Talisman is a large upstream oil and gas company headquartered right in here in Calgary, Canada. In fact Talisman is one of Canada’s largest petroleum companies and it is well insulated from the Middle East. The company’s three major operating areas are Canada, the North Sea and Southeast Asia.

Talisman has a market capitalization of just under $18 billion, which makes its shares very liquid. Yet Talisman is better leveraged to rising energy prices than a giant concern like Exxon Mobil Corp (NYSE: XOM, $63.00), which has a market cap of $320 billion.

Talisman was originally part of BP, but in 1992 it became an independent company. Three years ago Talisman’s longtime President and CEO James Buckee retired and John Manzoni, a former BP executive, took over. There is one further connection between the companies. Last month as BP was liquidating assets to pay for the massive Gulf spill, Talisman stepped in and cut a deal, paying C$858 million for a 49 percent stake in BP’s Colombian operations. This purchase is in keeping with Talisman’s strategy of staying out of the Middle East and investing heavily in exploration plays.

And there is more good news: last month Talisman reported a near 10-fold increase in second-quarter profits. And the company expects oil and gas production to grow as much as 10 percent in 2011.

What impresses me most is that last year Talisman replaced 162 percent of its oil and gas production. That makes Talisman is one of the few large oil and gas companies that is growing its reserve base while slashing liabilities. At the end of March the company’s liabilities declined to $1.8 billion, just half what they were the year before.

Talisman’s emphasis on growth through exploration along with the relative safety of its vast reserves of oil and gas makes it an excellent investment. To learn more go to the Talisman’s Web site by clicking here.

Action To Take
Call your stock broker and buy Talisman Energy (NYSE: TLM) at market.

Yours for real wealth and good health,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy and Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • s c

    If this prez had both feet in the real world, he’d know that any transition to a “green” nation can’t be done in one or two years. In effect, Mr. Obama has chosen to increase our dependency on hostile, foreign oil. There are names for people who specialize in making bad decisions at the wrong time and for the wrong reasons.
    None of them are good. A polite way to describe such an individual is an anti-leader. Many other names come to mind, but as our energy dependency worsens and oil prices skyrocket, those names will get used often. Then, perhaps, America’s dupes who were anxious to bet their futures on a “hope and change” con artist will finally understand what they have done to America.

    • hflashman

      And so it’s this administration’s fault we are beginning the process to get off the addiction? Clinton didn’t sdo much as he was hogtied with the warrantless attacks by the Right…Bush sold us out as he was kissing and holding hands with the shieks, and now we have an administration who is urging the Nation to become energy independent from oil and to stop financing the Arab/Muslim world…and you’re complaining?

      Jeesh …

      • Ricky Roo

        And just do you think that Obama is beholding to? The first thing he did when he got in office was to make face with all the little oil dictators and despots in the world. Chavez needs help…raise our oil prices. The Middle East needs to fund the terrorists…raise our oil prices. Green is good but all within reason. Obama has no reason that anyone can see for any of what he does other than he really deep down hates the way we do business and what we stand for and his and Soros what to bring us down to their levels.
        Wonder who is long on oil? …Soros maybe and with his buddy in the white house he stands to make billions more of your hard earned dollars to bring about more of a US down fall than you will even beginning to imagine. These people hate what we stand for. Stalin failed and these clowns have picked up the gavel and are trying their best to get done what they can before we the people wake up and throw them out of office. They should be tarred and feathered (with cheap Chinese imitation feathers) in the high priced oil they have gotten us and set afloat in a sea of burning oil to suffer the fate of jezebels.

      • ME

        You, sir, are not only sadly deceived, but obviously walk through life with your eyes shut and your ears closed. Wake up before, if it’s not already, too late for our great nation!

      • Olan

        I agree.

        Most who complain have their own agenda.

      • DaveH

        Warrantless attacks? Get real, Flashman. There has never been a president before that deserved to be attacked as much as Obama does. Do you honestly think that impoverishing our country is the way to cleaner energy? The most economically viable countries are the cleanest countries. If you and your kind succeed in impoverishing our country you can look for a dirtier environment, not a cleaner one.
        I get so tired of the talking heads trying to run things rather than the people who have proven themselves through experience. Anybody can yammer. It takes much more to actually accomplish something.
        How many more wind generators must ugly our environment? How many more mercury-containing CFL light bulbs must poison our homes? When are people going to learn that the Greens are not that because they know a better way? They are Green with envy is all. And not too bright to boot, or their alternative energies would sell to willing consumers rather than being forced on them by an arrogant Government.

        • Eric Bischoff

          Why sure. Blame it all on the new black guy, how convenient. That excuses all others. If I had to pick one president to blame it would be Reagan. First he should have been arrested for treason for making secret agreements with the Iranians not to release the hostages until after the election and for selling arms to the Iranians which will probably be used against us soon. He removed the solar panels from the white house. That was the message we really needed. His campaign of deregulation is directly responsible for the mess we are in now. He deregulated healthcare, banking, the media and energy. And he grew government and ran up deficits. The results speak for themselves. THis didn’t happen overnight it was a long time coming. As long as we stay on the same path, we are headed for more pain. And I say the same path because even though a lot of you are blaming Obama, he is merely running the same plays as the administrations before him. Not much has changed.

          • Lubo

            The “New Black Guy” is a joke and you know it. His obvious lack of basic common sense goes well with his “Higher Education”. Don’t even attempt to play the “Race Card” on this blog! I really don’t care if he is purple, makes no difference to me. All that matters to me is getting our constitutional rights restored by getting the “Fat Cats” in Washington fired and sent home, regardless of party affiliation, race, color or religion.

          • DaveH

            Eric,
            If healthcare was indeed “deregulated” we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in right now. Try telling the doctors that they are deregulated.
            As far as banking goes, I will let Anthony do my talking:
            http://reason.org/news/printer/the-myth-of-financial-deregula

            And frankly, I don’t give a damn what Reagan did. Nothing Reagan did excuses Obama from destroying our economy.

          • vicki

            What is the purpose of playing the race card? Do you think any of us even *CARE* that he as a good suntan?

          • Only in America

            Yes, too bad Obama got elected after all the Reagan decontrols and trickle down destroyed American capitalism and the economy.

            And yes he leans towards socialism. Health Care is piss poor in America and still very expensive. Even with insurance it is a crap shoot.

            The Obama health care plan like the Bush drug plan has the finger prints of lobbyists insurance companies and big pharma all over it. But isn’t that the American way corporations run everything.

          • John Woodbury

            Eric, I know this will not do any good seeing you are spewing DNC talking points and flopping the race card. First, he is not Afro-American. Or more precisely, he is. He is of mixed race. He is exactly 1/2 of each. It was his idea to call himself Black. The one real record we have (Occidental University) says he is Indonesian, and based on that he got Foreign Student Aid. (No I am not a believer that he was not born in Hawaii; but I would like to know when he renounced his Indonesian Citizenship and became American. He needed to do that before his 21st birthday.) Now on to the real deal. I was mid-twenties when Jimmy was president, believe me I am missing even him. This country was f&^%ed up when Reagan became president. He used non-Keynesian economics to give us a few more years of freedom. Too bad there is not another RR right now.
            I agree there is going to be a spike in the price of gasoline/heating oil in the US. There was no real reason for the spike before, except OPEC wanted more money. This time there is a reason, U.S.dollar has dropped like a rock, I am not surprised oil prices have stayed so low (they should be up around 100 dollars a barrel now), I think OPEC has it orders to let the Democrats off easy. I also believe they raised the price of oil to start this melt down, except the book scholars did not think the melt down would be as bad as it was. Rham has said this very thing, “we did not know it would be this bad.” Google it. Or is your head so full of Obama-aid you can not see that the dip years in Bush’s presidency was 2004 and 2008 is not coincidental? Meanwhile our banker (China) is quietly buying oil and gas as if there is no tomorrow. (They maybe right)

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            You sir, are an uneducated dill weed. Ronald Reagan was the best thing that happened since sliced bread. I was a born and raised democrat, until Ronald Reagan came to be. At first I hated him, because you know, it didnt fit my mantra of being left wing liberal democrat. But the more I listened to him, and watched him put his words into action, and then I watched the good things his actions brought, I found myself searching for answers and getting educated as to the ways of politics, and I found that my parents lied to me when they told me the democrats were for the working man and the republicans were for the rich people. I found out that was an out and out lie. I to this day, have found out that the democrats themselves are the rich guys, and are in bed with the big oils and big business that they demonize and try to connect to the other party. They are a bunch of hippocritical liars, and if I were any big business or big oil I would cut off all funding to them immediately because of their denial of the facts. They hamper the working man with their constant tax hikes and social programs that us working stiffs get stuck paying for. Where as their opponents, cut taxes and promote good business tactics by not taxing the hell out of business’s. You sir, are dead wrong, need to put down the crack pipe, and research the facts for yourself. Maybe you too can change for the better.

          • dan az

            Eric
            Seriously Reagan again? what was the economy back then good or bad?
            what is the economy now? good or dead? Why do you believe that this poser has done anything but destroy this nation, with his blatant refusal of the law and constitution which he took his oath on. Sure he lied about protecting the constitution because his God allah hates this free nation of people and our way of life.NO ONE cares if he is black purple or rainbow color what we do care is that he is a citizen of the united states an as far as blaming him for every thing {the buck stops here}if the shoe fits wear it.No one is perfect but we do have standards . You can take the boy out of the hood but you cant take the hood out of the boy.

          • LocalYokel

            If you want to compare your brazenly inept teleprompter zombie to another of his peers, try LBJ. Their agendas and strong arm methods were amazingly alike with the former planting the trees of entitlements and your hero burning them for steam roller progression Buying votes with tax money is a treacherous game. LBJ got exposed for his ignorance and listening to imported talking head experts. When all similarities are considered you can merely accept the same fate for your chosen one since he brought his own experts with less experience than his minister. Doing otherwise may well condemn you to be considered as racist as “the new black guy” when your biography is penned.

        • al sieber

          DaveH, I agree with you, and can only hope it happens soon!!!!

      • Warrior

        Maybe the ruling class should set an example and start pedaling. What do think there flashy?

      • Henry

        Clinton created jobs and balanced the budget.

        He was and is still a likable person.

        • Lubo

          Who cares if Clinton was “likeable”. What we need in HONEST leadership! Then and only then will you see positive change.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Lubo__Here, Here!!!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          If you beleive what the liberal press tells you that he did. Note – smoke and mirrors. The guy decimated our military and intelligence community which directly cause 9-11 to happen, and the USS Cole bombing, and the first bombing of the World Trade Centers basement, and millions of illegal terrorist roaming about the country setting up their evil deeds. Hell man, put me in office, and give me the billions you save when you endanger the welfare of this country by ridding us of our military and intelligence, and I could show you on paper that I balanced the budget also. That is why when Bush took over everything was such a mess. The economy was in the tank, because the cooking the books baloney the Clinton admin did caught up to them, the military was left in shambles and pieces, and we basically had no intelligence left. But you know, to the man’s credit, Bush’s that is, he rolled up his sleeves and went to work and got things going good again. He didnt pull out a soapbox and stand on it and point fingers at the previous guys, like this current loser admin continually does, even TWO STINKING YEARS LATER. He never once pointed fingers at them. He attacked the task at hand, and you all like to lie about it, but the historical facts show that under Bush more people had jobs in America than ever before in history. That un-employment was at all all time low in history. That the stock market reached all times highs in history. Then there is the thing the liberal media like’s so to hide, to protect their hero Slick Willy, that at Bush’s low point of his economy, it was higher than Slick Willy’s highest point. So how good was your hero then? So funny how you on the left can just sway away from the truth, and it doesnt even bother you. We are still paying for Bill Clinton being asleep for 8 years. We still have terrorist cells here that he let in. We have technology that he sold to China that will forever haunt us. We have millions of jobs gone to Mexico that he sold, and yet the unions still vote for these guys, even though he sold them out. The guy was the worst thing to ever happen to this country. He sold us down the road, and he defiled the office of the president, and defiled his wife and child in front of millions of people. He is, America’s worst nightmare, white trash with money. Thats the bottom line.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Is that right? While he continues to give millions to middle eastern terrorist nations. While he supplies lawyers to middle eastern terrorists caught trying to kill us. While he imprisons our soldiers for killing the same terrorists caught trying to kill us. While he envisions letting the muslim terrorist bastards build a mosque on the grounds where they toppled the world trade centers. Are you serious? You are one blind sick puppy, and it is people like you that weaken this country, and you need to leave now.

    • refuse2lose

      People really need to realize that Obama is not looking out for the best interests of America or it’s citizens. When people start seeing that,they will begin to understand why he is making the decisions he is making. Read the books he has written,look into his past…. if you do this you will see who it was that formulated the thoughts and theories of him, and you will see that practically all of the people who were involved in raising him were radical extremists. How else would you expect him to act?

      • Lubo

        That’s a fact!

        • Chuck

          Are you a parrot?

          • Lubo

            No but progressives are.

    • MSSouth

      I have one question. Hasn’t the courts ruled against the moritorum twice? Why is he (obama) still being allowed to impose it.

      • Only in America

        The appeals process leaves it up in the air.

      • DaveH

        Relax,
        He is building so many enemies against the Democrat Party, that they are doomed to failure. He has stepped on too many toes. The only way he can recover from that is with a big increase in the economy. Not likely. Everything he does flys in the face of sound economics. That guy has done more to destroy the Democrat party than anyone before him.
        He has also waken people up to the dangers of Big Government. Hopefully now, voters will start pushing hard for representatives who will promise to shrink the size of Government.
        The best solution? Vote Libertarian, the only political party which understands freedom. We respect peoples’ rights to control their own bodies and property. Government should only be there to protect us from the force of others, not to become the forcers.

        • http://goggle jimradford

          u sir have the right hammer wiyh the nail to be driven home, the only thaing that needs to be added is all of the obommers that are with him need to be bent over or driven home to ther home country because they are not from here, and are causing just as much as he is. so keep on hammering home what needs to be said……

        • vicki

          We need representatives who WILL shrink the size of government. We have had many who promised.

          As Dave says. Vote Libertarian. Its the only (current) way to be sure. :)

      • Lubo

        Because he’s our new global KING!! Didn’t you know that?

    • Eric Bischoff

      Why does everything have to be about the president? How about we all start pitching in to solve these problems. How about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem!

      • Lubo

        You should ask King Obama that question.

        • Henry

          Good answer from the people of NO solutions.

          • Lubo

            Henry…When you and your kind can present some REAL solutions within the context of our CONSTITUTION, then we will talk…like adults.

      • http://goggle jimradford

        how do u see us being part of the problems,when i was not there and had no hand in what was and is going on at the time he started or even now,besides has he or anyone asked for help to clean up the stupid things that was started when came into office,so take me out of ur pocket of help, and quit blaming people thatdid not cause any problems.

        • Eric Bischoff

          You are kidding right. You are not part of the problem!!!

          • Lubo

            No, you’re the problem!

          • Angel Wannabe

            Eric, by the looks of you avatar(pic) you should remove the sun glasses, your really missin the boat!

      • vicki

        We have been and are. You (Eric) may be late to the party but many of us have been living on renewable energy supplements or sources since before Jimmy Carters time.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The best way that I , as a voting citizen of this country can make a difference, is at the voting booth, and that would be, without a doubt, to pull any lever other than the democrat lever. Please leave that lever alone so that the country can get fixed.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Right Beberoni, the vote is our most important tool, as long as the votes aren’t fixed, like I think they were tipped in Obamas favor last time!?!

          • dan az

            Angel
            at least they should be breathing before they can vote!

      • bsfurg

        Obama seems to be able to stop any one from doing what they want…. He didnt help AZ… he wouldnt let any one in to help with the oil spill..I have always heaqrd that the president was just a figure head.. it doesnt seem to be that way with obama.Hes spending money like it grows on trees.. by the way are they still printing money

      • http://??????? Stephen Browning

        The people in New York tried to make the decision about the Moaque and that big nose made it for them. It wasn’t what most concerned people wanted.

      • home boy

        when the president ignores a catastraphy for 50 + days , its reasonable for people to be outraged. he is the leader and should start acting lie one or get out of the kitchen.

      • Joe

        Just a quick reminder that their are people PAID to come here and get people riled up, off focus and distracted from the issues that concern us NOW. Comparatively, the environment is a non issue. It’s a tiny side note, like gay marriage. Please TRY not to get sucked into these types of debates with people who are so fooled main stream media that they actually believe people like Al Gore. I know it’s fun to bash them and make fun of them but really, finding the truth and spreading the news to those open to it is going to be much more productive than swapping insults with people like Eric Bich off!

      • Dan Kapa

        the “solution” is to get a new president and congress ASAP!!!

      • david

        Absolutely right! Its a government of “We te People”, the President is only one of us. We have been moving towards an Imperial Presidency, back to the rule of Kings. Time to make a U-Turn!

      • David in Ma.

        I agree with the post that instead of complaining about obama being responsible for the ills to America from his decisions, that we should all chip in and help solve the problem….My suggestion to the start of solving the problem is to impeach obama!

      • http://elitespacovers jose francisco

        Eric, you are right in one thing is not only about Obama we should include alway his gang of forty thiefs,why do we have to keep on paying for the premeditade ,negligance,stupidity arrogance,greed and and discriminatory attitude of the fity rich politicians that do not pay dues to the gov.while all of us work are but and are persecuted as ciminals eve for a dollar amount owe.why do we have to pay for the parties and expenses fot their families and friend where hundred of thousands are wasted when the rest of us struggle have seen buss,closed by gov.agencies becaused of the tariffs penalties impossed includind mikethat are literaly bk.amd at my age have to continue working,yes we shold all do something about,lets start by leading let allthe Obama and forty thiefs and althe other rich politicians start using their own resource,money,servitude,family let thyem start sacrificing in order for us to follow.Eric just you to see some of great vet.warriors see where,how and with how much they have to survive .do not ank if you are not willig to give respectfully JFR

      • http://YAHOO Larry Ackerlund

        Yes I agree, I also think that we the PEOPLE have the right to dismantle the current Presidentual administration and put people in there that can run our country the way it was desined by our founding fathers. I think the USA has had enough social CHANGE.
        DISCUSTED

      • Wayne

        You are joking right ? sounds like a joke to me and every other person I have talked to. Tell NASA and the Air-Lines to do the same, better still just shut them all down !!! While your at it have our men swim or maybe paddle there way back…

      • Yasou

        Quote of the year? “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” If you want to be part of the solution you must not allow fools to vote.

      • Ellis-Tx

        I would love to do something about the situation. Obama is the head of all the troubles this nation is in, with the aid of all the dems. The only thing we, the people can do about is vote. Obama is determined to bring this nation down, with the help of the dems. He wants to set up a communistic, markist type of government. Unless we do something about it at the polls in Nov., this is where we are headed. Vote these idiots out people, please, please.

      • robert widby

        It’s not that it is all about one individual, we in America are always eager to pitch in to solve problems. It IS, though, about the president AND his cronies when they trample on our constitution – except in instances where it plays to their motives. He and the congress/senate, do not respect public opinion in a way never before perpetrated by our leaders. They shout-down oposition and even use choice names, like nazi, racist to describe groups formed to question their policies. They are progressives but are going about destroying our heritage and transforming our nation into something we reject. He does have the power if we grant it to him. We must take the old America back. This is our immediate problem.

      • RedViking

        Eric, I think you “…got dropped on your head a few to many times”, as someone once stated about some of your other Un-Informed comments.

        “Why does everything have to be about the president?” You ask??

        This is a prime example of why it has to be about “O’Bummer”
        He stood in EVERYONE’s way when attempts were made to begin the clean-up. More than a Dozen countries came forward to help… He told then all to Go Away. He waited nearly TWO MONTHS before he Finally allowed a few of them to bring their resources to bear.

        Gov. Bobby Jindal wanted to begin building Sand Berms to protect the gulf coast as best as he could… Amazing how he was not allowed by the EPA to begin to do this until it was too late. O’Bummer could have simply made a phone call to allow the berms to be built, but no, He had to exert his control and provide fuel to his agenda of shutting down all domestic oil drilling.

        He made a Easily fixed issue far worse thru his inaction.
        So, I will definitely blame him for this.

      • Ron Alford

        The only way to do that is to vote this President out and all of the Democrats with him.

      • Marlene

        When the governor of Louisiana tried Washington used the USCG to shut them down. When the people tried Washington used the USCG to shut them down. When the governor of Arizona tried Washington shut them down using the courts. Personally I can’t wait until we shut Washington down and I agree with the other guy-do it any way!!!

      • Jennie Walsh

        To get the knowledge, tools and understanding that you need to be part of the solution see youhavetheright.com talkshoe.com restoreamericaplan spcpro.org

      • Larry Kennedy

        Eric I agree it don’t allways have to be about the pres. even if he is a liar I spent many years working in Chicago Mayor Daley’s org.senior by the way I beleave it is time for all of us to except responsabilty for our actions it is time for all of us to stop complaining and get out there and vote the one’s we want hired to do the job for us stop letting 13 to 14% of the voteing people to run this country time to stand up for yourselves get off you a–es quit grumping pull youselves up by the bootstraps and get out there and vote vote vote and interpet the constitution as written because we don’t have many rights left so my battle cry has been REMEMBER NOVEMBER thanks eric for letting me sound off to you see you on T.N.A.

        • http://yahoo.com Fear GOD, not man!-James White

          Do away with the Electoral College!

      • http://libertydigest Viet Vet

        The most recent problem is “the president” and his appointed Czars and minions in case you haven’t noticed. He is anti business as any good socio – Marxist truly is!!

      • http://yahoo.com Fear GOD, not man!-James White

        “WE” have already done what you are saying, but Obama and his administration have overturned “OUR” wishes MANY times over! Example-California GAY marriage. Prop-8 was passed not once, but TWICE and still overturned by Federal judges! Obama is pro-gay, and this is by his own admission. Gay people say they should have the right to get married, and what’s ironic is they DO ALREADY have that right, as do all of us (just not to the same sex)! What they really want is for everyone that’s not gay to recognize thier belief and agree that it’s okay to show this in pubic! WELL, IT’S NOT OKAY! They should be ashamed to show this behavior in public, and our liberal government isn’t doing anything about it! My point is, as my name says, “Fear GOD, not man!”

    • Retribution

      What happens to all the oil beneath gulf waters when we stop extracting it? It seems to me that other nations just move in and start pumping it out. The question I have is how many wells in the gulf are owned by foreign interests that are hostile to the United States? Is anyone keeping track of these things?

    • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

      If he can crash the economy, it will open the way to a global economy run by a global government. There is evidence that if the economy crashes, it will cause mass rioting and panic. That would give Obama an excuse to declare martial law and take complete control of the government. There is a method to the madness of these fools.

    • Warrior

      I really like Lindsey’s spirit! He may as well be neutered.

  • Lubo

    SC……Well said! I concur completely! As this admin has proclaimed, “Never let a good crisis go to waste!” When we are paying $5-6 bucks a gallon for both milk and gas, then let’s see how well the “Hope and Change” mantra works for these KIDs we currently have in Washington.

    • Halbert

      Yeah Like the “grown ups” were such a treat.

      • Lubo

        At least I understand the constitution, maybe you should try reading it? My comments are not directed at the current admin exclusively… this crap has been going on for DECADES!!!!!! I think it is time for an ADULT conversation, don’t you? This “Touchy-Feely” marxist crap is why we are where we are today. Problem solving requires HONEST adult thinking minds.

  • Al Sieber

    I can’t help but think this oil disaster was engineered. to bring in the carbon tax.

    • http://CoxCommunications Wayne

      I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that this current administration was behind the whole thing from the beginning.

      • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

        Every President after Reagan has been a part of that. Global Federalism is the goal and we’re getting there.

        • William

          Reagan was a dud

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            No, he was, THE DUDE. THE TOP DUDE. Best of the best, the cream of the crop. We have never been as well off or as strong as we were under Ronald Reagan, and the country was never united any stronger than it was then also. We would be so much better off if we could have another one like him.

          • Angel Wannabe

            William, Have any of your progressive heros, ever said ” Tear Down This Wall, Mr. Gorbechev”, Like Reagan did??___I can answer that__HOW ‘BOUT NO!___Reagan was a God fearing man too, we so need another like him, with the same, class and spirit!

          • dan az

            I lived in calif. when reagan was governor and I understand why the liberals dont like him.He took everyone off the welfare and stopped the free food banks that they lived on as to get everybody off there azz and go to work.He turned the local economy around to the positive there where no free loaders aloud.

    • Ricky Roo

      There were some rumors to that effect right after the “accident” maybe a little bait and switch tactic there in Washington DC to get our minds off of the real issues.
      I find it interesting that no one ever brought up the 1979 Mexican oil spill that dumped 3.5 million barrels of oil into the gulf of Mexico or WWII when all the ships sank with all that oil on board, speaking of oil spills. And how about the Valdez spill where they left a section of the spill to nature to take care of and nature did a much better job of the reclaiming the oil than the section that man cleaned up.
      Hmmm, wonder why they left these out of the discussion? They are quite relevant.

      Why won’t they talk about these?

      • Only in America

        The news likes to keep up the hysteria. ie bad news sells

        This includes both the so called left and right.

        You have to research everything and not put much faith in the news.

      • http://goggle jimradford

        good question,i hope i have good answers for you.1.because the people that caused the problems does not want the world to know that there is some one or something better than them,2.because they would look stupid and loose face or creidablty and then money.3.u dont mess with mother nature like we have done.

      • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

        Facts like that might defuse the agenda.

        • John Woodbury

          The crazy leftist wackos do not use facts, facts just muddies the waters, as most of the facts do not support their ideas.

    • http://??????? Stephen Browning

      Since that oil station blew up, I have been wondering if someone maybe torpedoed it to create havock.

  • Only in America

    When the price goes up exploration will become more profitable.

    With higher prices in oil other energies are more competitive.

    Drilling and refining are driven by supply and demand. We are still in a de…recession.

    Right now, from what I’ve read we are at a 10 year level of over supply (glut in storage).

    What will drive prices higher is more likely the value of the dollar or a rebound in global economies.

    So while money is cheap it is a good time to reduce the costs of being leveraged.

    • Bob Leaks

      I heard that: One-third of all the wind power generated around the globe last year came from China. Yet only three years ago, China was ranked #10.

      • Bob Leaks

        I also heard: Of the world’s 10 largest photovoltaic cells makers in the world, five are Chinese, including #1 Suntech Power.

        • Wilbur

          They don’t call oil a Fossil Fuel for nothing.

          Then Americans will complain more about China’s lead role.

      • hflashman

        Here’s something else that will make the TPers stand proud…we’re cutting tachers, tearing up paved roads because local governments can’t afford the maintenance, not gearing energy policy to indepedence, supporting oppostion to return tax rates for the wealthy to the rates of the Clinton boom years, and opposing every effort to get us out of this recession and looking towards a solid economy. In essence, the Right and the TPers are not looking to the future instead calling for more reliance on the ancient days…while China is moving towards energy independence, building high tech rail, pouring money into their school systems … and essentially building to a modern 21st centruy society.

        Nice…y’all proud for being the wall against progress into the 21sdt century?

        • MSSouth

          You are so full of BS! You sound like a UNION man or maybe a union teacher? We are all having to tighten our belts! So states can’t afford to patch the roads but CAN afford to “tear up the roads”? Make sense man!!! As for becomming energy independent, how about taking advantage of the oil and shale in this country while we look for other energy sources. Seems the great obama wants to keep us dependant on our enemies for oil instead of us becoming our own provider of oil.

        • Ed

          HFlashman, have you EVER stopped, even for a minute and tried to reason. Your posts do not seem to bear this out. Please give some real critical thinking to what you say, before you say it. That way you will be less of an embarassment(intended) to your self.

        • Halbert

          You have some good points.

          When will we ever learn?

        • DaveH

          Flashman,
          You are indeed the typical Liberal. Government Grows, the Economy Slows, and still you cling longingly to the concept that Big Government is the solution. When do Liberals throw in the towel? Don’t answer that, it was a rhetorical question.
          Our nation became the wealthiest nation on earth for one reason only – Small Government (that is, in the past). That wealth has allowed green-eyed liberals the leisure time to give their substanceless theories the light of day. It takes time to impoverish a nation as wealthy as ours, but the Liberals are up to it.
          For anybody who truly has an open mind (that excludes liberals/progressives) look at this list of countries ranked in order of their economic freedom (fewer regulations). You can pick the country names to learn the particulars of their rankings. More regulations mean worse economies. Notice that the United States is falling fast under Obama:
          http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx

          • JeffH

            DaveH, Thank you…for some too lazy to open the link I’ll give you a peek inside:

            “The United States’ economic freedom score is 78.0, making its economy the 8th freest in the 2010 Index. Its score is 2.7 points lower than last year, reflecting notable decreases in financial freedom, monetary freedom, and property rights. The United States has fallen to 2nd place out of three countries in the North America region.

            The U.S. government’s interventionist responses to the financial and economic crisis that began in 2008 have significantly undermined economic freedom and long-term prospects for economic growth. Economic freedom has declined in seven of the 10 categories measured in the Index.

            Uncertainties caused by ongoing regulatory changes and politically influenced stimulus spending have discouraged entrepreneurship and job creation, slowing recovery. Leadership in free trade has been undercut by “Buy American” provisions in stimulus legislation and failure to pursue previously agreed free trade agreements with Panama, Colombia, and South Korea. Tax rates are increasingly uncompetitive, and massive stimulus spending is creating unprecedented deficits. Bailouts of financial and automotive firms have generated concerns about property rights.”

          • Eric Bischoff

            Well if you are going to rely on the Heritage Foundation for your information that explains a lot of things. As far as how America became a super power it’s not that complicated. The manufacturing capabilities of most of the world were destroyed during the war. Ours juts happened to be intact. It’s not that were that much smarter.

          • Angel Wannabe

            EriC, where have you been?__alot of manufacturing are OVERSEAS, because of tax and regulation__Industries have done the same__Hell I can see the writing on the wall, better than you, and I was going blind!!!

        • Wilbur

          There was a program called vouchers and another called leaving the kids behind.

          The elitist Republicans thought it would be good to keep kids stupid.

          Tell that to China and India.

          • DaveH

            Am I understanding you right? Are you glorifying China? And India?
            China had an estimated GDP of $7 Trillion Dollars in 2007. China has 1.3 Billion people.
            India had an estimated GDP of $3 Trillion Dollars in 2007. India has 1.2 Billion people.
            The United States had an estimated GDP of $14 Trillion Dollars in 2007. The United States has 0.3 Billion people.
            Do you get this? Our gross domestic product in 2007 was twice that of China and we have 1/4 of their population. Our GDP was 4 times that of India with 1/4 of their population.
            Do you want to emulate them? Or did I just misread your comment?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Gee, seems to me the liberals running our educational system are the one’s keeping our kids dumb, teaching them tolerance to terrorists that are hell bent on killing us, and teaching them that God doesnt exist, and that its cool to have two dads and no mom, or vice versa. You can thank the liberal democrats for this crap pal.

        • Strawberry Shortcake

          Flash you should move to China, you’d fit right in with the socialist lifestyle. You IDIOT. Hope you have money because lotta people poor and starving over there…ya know that whole communism thing.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I heard and also have seen, that China is the number one polluter in the world of water and air. And they dont care either.

    • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

      I wonder why so few people ever mention scalar technology? The powers that be have gone to great lengths to make us think it’s pseudoscience, but it works. It has the potential to give us limitless energy and take us off the power company grids. Oops, that’s the reason, isn’t it. If every home and business had an appropriate overunity generator, the power companies would lose billions. Hmmm. Back to the same old problem.

      • DaveH

        That’s great. The Liberals should jump on that. They can establish new communities based on that technology and other alternative energy schemes. And then maybe (not likely) then will quit trying to force the rest of us to do things we don’t want to do.

      • Only in America

        Jerry D that is a great point.

        Physics and the lack of an energy monopoly may allow that to happen.

  • WarriorH

    When gasoline prices hit $5/$6 per gallon, the chevy volt is going to be a big hit. Don’t you just love this social engineering stuff, it’s so much fun.

    • William

      When Tesla built the first alternating current facility many viewed it as social engineering. Especially Thomas Edison with his competing DC technology.

      The price of electricity will also force Smart Grid Technology and more efficient appliances.

      • TIME

        William,

        I can’t arguue your point on Tesla.

        But on the electric cars the replacment batteries cost is nothing short of outright crazy, $7500.00 and up.
        But to add to that is the waste these used batteries will create, of what they are noted to be 100X more toxic than standard car batteries.
        So it seems to me this is perhaps not quite the answer.

        Be that as it may, as well RARE Earth is used in these new electric car, of what most of this product, as in well over 68% is derived from Slave labor.
        I could be wrong but are there not some issues with Human Rights when Slave Labor is used?

      • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

        Tesla also developed overunity generators that can be made almost any size. He developed an electric car, using one of those generators, that would travel about 60 miles per hour and never needed to be charged. It’s commonly referred to as “energy from the void.” The technology works, but the power companies and the government don’t want us to believe it. Profit means more to them than the good of the people – imagine that. Of course, that’s nothing new.

        • DaveH

          Jerry,
          You should get together with some like-minded people and start a company to introduce those vehicles. You would make a fortune (maybe).

          • DaveH

            The only thing that could stop you, if indeed it is a viable technology, would be the force of Big Government. You will have to fight the Big Government Liberals over that one.

        • Only in America

          Jerry D

          Don’t give up or let “them” intimidate you.

      • DaveH

        The Free Market would solve our energy problems without resorting to the force of Big Government. Consumers in the Free Market vote with their pocketbooks. In Government controlled markets politicians make politically-influenced decisions that the consumers are stuck with, like it or not.
        In the Free Market, as oil-based fuels become too highly priced, companies with alternative energy schemes can step in and fill the gap without the consumers being forced to buy what they don’t want to buy. People that want to apply force to the consumers choices are generally up to no good. If they weren’t, they could simply persuade us with reason.
        And think of all the money that could be saved across our economy if we weren’t paying the salaries of all those regulatory forcers.

      • Warrior

        Smart Grid will be great. Than the government can control the temperature in your house. Not sure how the little women’s going to like that because she controls it now.

        • DaveH

          Do you think Al Gore’s energy would be controlled?

          • DaveH

            Speaking of that, it cracks me up that the Liberals want to control our energy use, when they can’t even control the wasteful Government spending. Future generations are now deeply in debt thanks to the “intelligent” control of Liberals. We are soon going to see inflation like we have never seen before. Thank goodness we have Big Government to save us from dying with more money than we could spend.

          • WarriorH

            Al is similiar to a natural phenomenom, kinda like Mount St. Helens eruption. He creates his own energy.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Al Gore. They need to make a movie where he can be like the new Freddy Krueger or something. The guy is just plain creepy.

        • kate8

          Warrior, I received notice that the utility company is installing SmartMeters in our area, and will be by to install the remotely controlled meters at my house any day now.

          I tried to notify them that I wanted to opt out, but got no response. Some people are not allowing them on their property. Since so many people have already allowed them to install them in their homes, thinking how great it is that they care so much about us, they’ll no doubt get to force their way in.

          There was a member of Congress who went around warning communities against allowing the SmartGrid, SmartGrowth and such, but he got little attention. Now it’s in the final stages, another means of conrolling every part of our lives. It’s all a part of the NWO agenda.

    • blv54

      I doubt they will be selling many volts or any other electric car,with no jobs who will have the money and when the electric bills necessarily skyrocket a lot of people will be without power of any kind, things are going to get real interesting in little while I’m thinking.

  • clarence

    abama admit’s he not an American , and that he was no born here in America.. ( GO TO U-TUBE ) WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE ?????? GET THIS ILLEGAL OUT OF AN OFFICAL POSITION THAT HE IS NOT QUALIFIED FOR , ALONG WITH THE ONES KEEPING HIM IN OFFICE .. THE ARMY OFFICERS WERE RIGHT NOT TO TAKE ANY ORDERS FROM THIS LYING DRUNKEN DOPE HEAD … WE HAVE A DOPE HEAD CLOWN RUNNING THE COUNTRY .. SO SAD !!!!!

    • hflashman

      “WE HAVE A DOPE HEAD CLOWN RUNNING THE COUNTRY ”

      Last I heard, Bush is gone.

      • MSSouth

        That’s it keep believing what the dems wan’t you to believe. Never open your eyes and ears to the truth. You need to change your name to ostrich head and clean the sand out of your eyes and ears. Must be so sad not to have one single orginal thought is your head.

      • Shibamom

        Jesus…can we give the Bush-bashing a rest already??? The guy’s been out of office for nearly two years and many are still taking the failures, inconsistencies, and bald-faced lies of Obama and crew and blaming them on Bush! Open your freakin’ eyes…please! The crap that is happening now is all contrived to keep us in chaos, confusion, and not to mention, hating one another because of our races, etc., all so they can keep working on and instituting their so called “change we can believe in”. Every day I wake up and wonder what happened to the country that I love, that has been so good to me. My country has been good to me because I have never been afraid to work and provide for my family. God has been good to me because I’ve only had to stand in the unemployment line once in my life and even then, I vowed I would never go back. Today’s Government is a hoax. None of those people in office care anything at all about us…their constitutes that put them in office to begin with. All they care about is furthering their own career while working towards permanently holding their offices. Really, listen, watch, read, and critically think about what’s been going on in the last 18 months or so. Now, I’m not saying that Bush or those before him were perfect. Oh my goodness, now way am I saying that. The biggest difference between what’s happening now versus what’s happened in the past is that it’s all done, boldly & arrogantly, in your face, with a “double-dog dare ya” to do something about it. So, stop bashing crap that’s already happened and start critically thinking about what going on now.

        • Warrior

          Besides death and taxes the only other sure things in life are it’s either Bush’s fault or you’re a racist if you don’t agree with liberal ideologies.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        He is gone, so cant you stay focused on the problem at hand, which is this anti American, in debt to George Soros, muslim terrorist appeaser that is in charge? That is the problem. Bush is gone, and has been for two years. And your guy keeps digging a hole and pointing the finger. When does it become his turn to run things? I thought we went there two stinking years ago. When does it become his fault. Thats like saying the Cubs suck, and its all Ernie Banks fault, when he has been out of there for years, and did good when he was there. You want to blame the future on him also? Get real.

  • Doc Sarvis

    We have to realize that oil is the dying energy source. We need to begin our transition to other sources of energy immediately. We also need to use energy more efficiently/reduce our waste of energy.

    • Craig

      Don’t think anybody is disagreeing with your statement. But in the mean time we should be going after every drop of oil in the US and off our shores.

    • CONSERVATIVE AT BIRTH

      Oil is being created all the time. It is an ongoing geoligical event. Why do you think they keep discovering new fields all the time. Yes, we should do everything to conserve natural resources. Even if you can replace the combustion engine, what will you replace all of the plastics, synthetics, and lubricants with? We produce most of our electricity with coal and nuclear. Do you want to take our economy to the 19th century?

      • Doc Sarvis

        Yes, oil is in the process of being made all the time but it takes millions of years to finish the process. We have burned through the majority of the know reserves (and we have been looking a lot for new reserves) in just a few hundred years. A receipe for virtual depletion.
        I want our country to lead the world to the next generation of energy sources and smart use of energy. The U.S.A. can lead the world in the 21st century. We can be the world leaders if we apply ourselves to it. To stick in the oil mentality is NOT in this country’s interest and is NOT living up to our potential.

        • TIME

          Well Doc in so far as theory your statment would be noted as correct.
          But, all noted theory’s have been proven wrong now how many times?

          Hey I can’t even understand why they teach all the disproved theorys in school anylonger, perhaps you can tell us all why that is?

          • Doc Sarvis

            What in my statement do you dispute and why?

        • Only in America

          Doc,

          I believe that physics can provide better sources and I’m not talking about nuclear specifically. The earth is bombarded by energy day and night. Unfortunately, Johnny can’t do math and science.

          • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

            Scalar technology, developed by Nikola Tesla, is available now. The answer is right in front of us, but we have been led around by the noses by power hungry politicians and profit hungry big business so long that we don’t see it.

        • Lubo

          Doc, once again, you have missed my point. Global warming has everything to do with this conversation even though you did not mention it. Again, all of us understand that this entire conversation evolves around “CAP AND TRADE”!!!!!!!

          Let me make the following statement and then you disprove it since most people like you make statements about OIL than cannot be proven or disproven:

          Oil is a natural resource created by mother earth and in my estmation I think we could continue using OIL at the same consumption rate for the next 1,000 years and unless we have some major ELE to occur on planet earth the earth will have about the same weather patterns as we have today. Now PROVE OR DISPROVE that statement because my opinion is about as accurate as your “SCIENCE”.

          As far as 1000000000′s of people dying for Oil, let’s see your facts to support that statement. You may feel that our wars are all about the Oil but I beg to differ. Show me where once this country has stated on record that; “WE ARE GOING TO WAR BECAUSE OUR OIL SUPPLIERS ARE JUST CHARGING US TO MUCH”. The fact is, we have OIL and we can buy as much OIL as we need, so what is your “logic” in stating this?

          Our WARS, my friend, have been waged against oppressive communism, socialism, marxism and all the other progressive-marxist dictatorial systems who would DARE challenge a FREE PEOPLES. Remember WWII???

          • Willy Moore

            I recall that cap and trade were the fix for SO2 pollution. So how about that. It worked before.

        • DaveH

          Doc,
          Let’s face it. What you really believe in is forcing your way on other people.
          If indeed we are running out of oil (no doubt it will eventually happen), then the prices will start increasing and those technologies you champion will become economically viable. Then people can buy them willingly and meanwhile we will have saved a ton of money that now goes to meddlesome bureaucrats. We not only have to pay those bureaucrats salaries, but they also interfere with the productivity of those who know what they are doing which causes the prices of our products to go up.
          No thanks, you will have to force your choices on me like the rapists force their choices on unwilling women.

          • Doc Sarvis

            So how high does the loss of human life have to go in order for us to keep up with our oil habit? To me it is already too high and we should be – for the sake of our country and for the sake of others – making the transition to other sources (not to the complete exclusion of oil).

        • kate8

          Doc, It’s not as if one batch is finished and then it’s all you have until the next batch a million years later.

          The oil exists in varying stages all the time. It’s continually being replenished.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Doc, oil is a wonderful thing. It has made our lives all 100 percent better. Transportion, energy, plastics, other commodities. Its a great, great thing. And its demonized because its successful. If you dont like it, dont use it. Period. But I think the thing is, is that our fearless leaders, and I say that sarcastically, seem to think we can suck the middle east dry, then ours will be worth so much more. But they seem to forget that it takes some 10 years to get the wells set up, drilled, and refinerys built to take care of this potential. And as long as our politicians are in bed with the enviro’s, who want us to drill in 5000 feet of water, its rediculous. Drill in ANWR, drill in Montana and Wyoming and Colorado and everywhere the oil is. Once the threat of not needing their oil is there, the price will cut down to a fifth of what it is now, maybe more. Maybe Im an odd duck, but I sure like filling up my car and being able to drive it from Indiana to Maine, or to California and stop on the way and visit Mt.Rushmore, the Black Hills of South Dakota, Yellowstone, The Grand Canyon, Yosemite, The Painted Desert, Death Valley and other wonderful places to visit on vacations. I like filling my plastic canteen with water and going hiking in the Smoky Mountains, when I drive down there. And I dont believe for a minute that my exhaust is burning a hole in the ozone or causing global warming. The evaporations off the oceans and the heat of the sun are the culprits, and I cannot help that. Maybe tarp the ocean off, but I dont think that is feasible. So, until something better is offered to me, I will excercise my free market freedoms, and buy gas for my car. Or, Ill ride a horse or a bicycle. But it’s my choice, no one is forceing me to buy anything. That is why if left alone, the free market system will work.

    • Lubo

      Hi Doc…Where is your supporting data to conclude that oil is a dying energy source and that it takes millions of years to create it? Hopefully it is not from the same folks that claim “Global Warming”.

      You also assert that we have burned through the world’s reserves in just a few 100 years? Fact is, if you are still looking for NEW reserves, then you cannot make that assertion. Bottom line, we don’t know what the earths total oil reserves are so therefore we cannot know what is left or what has been consumed to date.

      Having said that, we have already been down the road of creating a MAJOR crisis so the Nation can be duped into making VERY BAD decisions. ie.; Tarp, stimilus, Obamacare and even worse, electing this KID to the Presidency.

      Now, I agree that we need to look for alternative energy sources, however, it needs to be done slowly and methodically, based upon REAL science, not some politically motivated “JUNK SCIENCE” like Al Gore’s global warming.

      Have you even wondered how we could take 100 years of climate data and predict future weather patterns or events? Now, If these same brilliant scientific minds that state that the planet is 4.5 billion years aged is correct, then lets see what chance they have in predicting future weather patterns and/or event.

      Simple 8th grade math:

      x = percent of time slice as it relates to the age of the planet
      a = 100 years of weather data collected to date (more like 20 -25)
      b = 4,500,000,000 age of the planet (They state this, not me.)

      x = 100 years / 4,500,000,000 years
      x = 0.000000022%

      I think I will draw my conclusions on this subject when we have a little more facts presented to us. How about you?

      By the way, when I graduated HS in 1974, these same scientists claimed that the earth was in a MAJOR cooling cycle and that by 2000-2010 we would enter into a new ICE AGE! What happened????…did their data mislead them then or what political motivation was driving their SCIENCE then?

      BEWARE my friends…BEWARE… don’t let these progressive-marxist dummies dupe you into economic-slavery!

      • Doc Sarvis

        Lubo,

        You must read more carefully. I did not say we burned through the world’s reserves in just a few 100 years, I said that; “We have burned through the majority of the know reserves (and we have been looking a lot for new reserves) in just a few hundred years. A receipe for virtual depletion.” Not at all the same thing.

        If you are hanging your energy hat on abiogenic sources of oil, which seems to be your argument; while this source of oil has been found it has never been found in commercially profitable amounts (this from Larry Nation of the American Association of Petroleum Geologists).

        • Lubo

          I think you need to read more carefully as well. I’m not hanging my hat on any one single energy source. My point is simple; you, they or anyone else on this planet cannot prove or disprove the worlds oil reserves, nor any current consumption ratios. The last thing this country needs is another “Knee-Jerk” reaction to problem solving.

          What we need to do is continue to expand our natural energy resources here at home with a VERY long-range methodically planned goal of developing alternative sources. All of us at this point clearly understand the political motivations behind this so called “Green Energy” movement…..it’s called Progressive-Marxism through cap and trade.

          The example of “Global Warming” that I used simply outlines that all the “Experts” may have been corrupted by political motivations. In other words, who are these people and who pays them for their “Science”. Let’s see their DATA and the methodologies used in collecting that “data”.

          Just because something sounds right does not necessary mean that it is right and I will continue to question those in power just as to how “THEY” the “EXPERTS” come up with their conclusions. Again, in the early 70′s, our “Experts” told us young minds that we were headed for the next “ICE AGE”. Don’t you find that interesting that now we are headed towards “GLOBAL WARMING” and we just got to stop using those fossil fuels!

          • Doc Sarvis

            We’ve been spending billions of dollars/year for decades (at least) to keep our oil habit going. This all the while nations and companies around the world have been looking for more oil reserves. We find oil but it generally resides in fewer and smaller reserves or much more difficult/expensive to bring to the pump (deeper drilling or oil sands and shales). Then there are the thousands of our soldiers who have died trying to maintain our energy security (plus our injured and the 100′s of thousands of non-U.S. folks killed and probably similar numbers displaced).

            I know you like to type out and probably say the words “Progressive-Marxism” but that has nothing to do with my argument nor does Global Warming (or cooling). In fact I have not mentioned that issue at all while you seem all tied up with it.

            I want America to be secure in its energy needs and we can start moving in that direction, in fact we need to do that – again, for our security as we are already paying too high a human price for this resource.

          • Warren

            Lubo

            Forget global warming it is too late. Start adapting or be extinct.

          • John Woodbury

            Yes we did such a good job of stopping global cooling we are now in a global warming cycle and need to slow down. (BTW this is humor, you freaking greens and liberals.)

        • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

          You know, there happens to be a nearly two trillion barrel field of shale oil on the eastern side of the Great Divide. 1.2 trillion barrels are accessible with present technology. There’s no danger of blowouts or large spills with shale oil and present technology allows extraction at a price of $25-35 per barrel. However, we probably shouldn’t use it since we might displace a few minnows or cause some owls to move their nests.

          • Lubo

            BINGO!!!! You got it!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I know what your saying. We might kill a wooly worm, and no one wants that.

        • DaveH

          Doc says “We’ve been spending billions of dollars/year for decades (at least) to keep our oil habit going”.
          Let’s see, 1000 times a Billion is a Trillion. What has Obama indebted us since he’s been in office? Only $2.5 Trillion dollars! Just a drop in the bucket to Liberals.
          Has anybody heard Doc complain about Obama’s spending?

          • Sea Captain

            Yet, that number Doc provide doesn’t include foreign aid or the military to keep those nations and sea lanes free.

            The price is much higher.

          • Doc Sarvis

            I am fully aware that I was low balling the estimates. And by the way, I have criticized things our government has been spending money on.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Hit me again on this “how many people have to die” thing. What does that have to do with using oil? Im not making the connection here.

    • Ricky Roo

      You all seem to forget that this planet has been churning out oil for a long, long time and just because we consume it doesn’t mean that the earth is going to quit all at once producing oil. Yes we need to find alternatives and yes the cost of oil will determine how fast we find these alternatives, but to just quit seeking the oil that is buried here now is irresponsible business on the part of this administration.

      • BeeCubed

        A few months ago I read a report from the USGS that one of the largest oil reserves in the world was right here in the middle US. Why isn’t anyone looking into that?

        • Lubo

          Because “They”, the progressive marxist-elites want to destroy us, our economy and our freedoms through “Cap and Trade”, and if they pass it, game over!

          Actually, if we cannot repeal the marxist Obamacare bill within the next 2-3 years, then it is game over anyway. If you don’t beleive me, then read the bill, your rights as you currently know them are about to EXPIRE!

        • Owen

          The oil monopoly BARONS have it locked up in psudo-environmental mumbo jumbo till we pay the ransom.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Very good post. And I would add, if we have our own, why buy someone else’s? its just plain irresponsible, and yet we do it year after year after year. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Kick the liberals and eco’s to the curb, and start drilling.

    • 150fowl

      Doc I don’t get it. We have been trying to get other energy sources for at least 20 yrs. Now we need to do it immediately. Using energy more efficiently is needed which means use what we have now which is oil, coal, nuclear, until other sources are available. Eliminate what we have now? I do not know why libs want us more reliable on our enemies.

      • Doc Sarvis

        You certainly did not hear/read me say that we should; “Eliminate what we have now? as you put it. I know this transition is a process but it is a process that has not started in any realistic way.

        As for trying to get other energy sources for at least 20 years, it what we have done in the last 20 years is trying then we are in DEEP trouble. We have been piddling around with alternatives as if it were a hobby. We have NOT done the serious work to start our transition which is what I have been advocating all along.

        • DaveH

          Study the Carter years, Doc. Government was meddling heavily in the energy markets, and as a result the energy prices were growing rapidly. There were many of the same Liberal energy schemes proposed that are currently being proposed by Liberals. In 1977 Carter and the Democrats created the Department of Energy which was supposed to end our dependence on foreign oil. Are we there yet?
          Inflation was running in the double digits during Carter’s last two years and the economy was bad. After wreaking our economy with his (and Congress’s) meddling, which was supposed to better our economy, he had this to say:
          http://www.eoearth.org/article/Jimmy_Carter%27s__malaise_speech_

          • DaveH

            The younger readers should study the History of Jimmy Carter’s term as President. It is almost a mirror image of what is happening now, only what is happening now is much worse.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Yes, what is happening now is much worse because since then we have spent untold trillions of dollars and how many American and other people’s lives (?) to prop up our oil habit. Yes, MUCH worse.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Not only that Dave, but to my understand of what I have read, this Dept. of Energy, has swelled to over 200,000 people, with thousands more contracted through them, yet we use more foreign oil than ever, and now were stuck paying the salaries of all these people. Another nice enlarge the government move by the democrats.

        • Only in America

          The oil companies have a lock on the politicians.

          • DaveH

            As Government Grows, Corruption Flows.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I agree with you about the piddling around thing, but I would also add, that we have more than piddled around with extracting our own oil, which is a know commodity, and a product we are allready fully adapted to, yet we just leave it lay, and keep giving billions to the arab terrorist nations for thier oil. This is the bigger problem, the transfer of wealth from America to the terrorist arab nations. That is the biggest threat we have, and we continue to be willing partners in it, and it is just stupid. Screw the anti American liberals and the green leaf eco wackos, and start doing something about it, by using the natural resources we now know we have, and then also continue to work on new types of energy. But stop neglecting what we know we have, while leaving it lay and enriching terrorist nations. That is just plain irresponsible of us, and shame on all of our leaders that do, no matter what party they are in.

    • blv54

      oil is not dying the demwits want it to be dead, we’ve got oil coming out our ears in this country if we’d just drill for it! I’m sick of hearing about stupid stone age windmills what happens when the wind dosen’t blow? they can take there green technolgies and stick them up there ass.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And I would add, just like up at the lake I fished at in Canada. They built a fish cleaning building, and a shower/laundry room, and next to them is a room full of batteries, that is a solar power plant for these buildings. The second and third days there, we had no sun. So there were no lights working, and no hot water. Sorry, they can keep that unreliable green crap. And they cant put up a big old ugly windmill all over their property if they want, and pay 10 grand an hour for a repair bill down the road. Not me.

  • Only in America

    I still think it’s crazy to turn perfectly edible corn into fuel. But that’s another story.

    • Stephen

      You haven’t heard 90%+ of corn crop is GMO. It is no longer fit for consumption by anything.

      • Only in America

        Can’t we still make edible booze with it?

        • TIME

          LMAO, :-)

        • DaveH

          I hope so. Like the citizens of the USSR, we may soon have to drown our misfortune with lots of booze.

    • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

      The result is also more polluting than normal gasoline and it runs up the cost of many other foods. Corn is eaten by humans and animals. When there’s less of it for food, the cost of food for mankind rises. The greenies had rather you pay a huge price for food than use oil.

      • DaveH

        Yep. People need to wake up to the fact that the Greens aren’t about reason, they are about force. There is little reason involved in their schemes:
        http://reason.org/news/show/ethanol-subsidies-cost-taxpaye

      • Only in America

        I believe it was an agricultural subsidy by W Bush not a greeny thing.

        • DaveH

          The ethanol pipe-dream was created in 1980 under the Jimmy Carter administration:
          http://reason.org/news/show/president-obamas-energy-plans

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Its always Bush’s fault, dont you know. Just read your local liberal newspaper, or watch the national news channels, or listen to Obama. Its always Bush’s fault. Amazing.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Just like this so called E-85 fuel they are pushing around here. It still costs as much as gasoline, and yet you get less miles per gallon, it doesnt burn as clean, and it harder on the vehicle’s that use it. So what then is my motivation to use something that costs as much or more, pollutes more, and eats my car up. What a waste of time and of corn.

  • http://aol judy macneal

    I agree with AL SIEBER they will do anything to get what they want. The presidents wife made sure the book about the presidents past never made the book shelf and many other things have been do pay off’s, get what you want foe your state if you give me what I want.
    All they know is CHICAGO CORRUPTION.

    • Al Sieber

      judy macneal, that’s what I believe, I don’t think oil is gonna go up anytime soon unless Israel and Iran get into it, then of course we will, but I’m not touching that subject.

      • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

        Don’t look now, but the price of oil has already gone up to $80 per barrel and the trend is up.

        • Only in America

          I am thankful to the Greenys that my SUV gets around 20mpgs

          • Doc Sarvis

            You should be sorry for all the American soldiers lives who were spent to fill your tank. We all need to change for our country’s security.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        If we would quit handcuffing Israel, they would have taken care of Iran already and we wouldnt have to get involved. The best thing we could do is give them our blessings, and let them level the Iranian nuclear plants before Iran starts flying missiles out of there all over the world. And they will if not stopped. Yet we handcuff Israel and tell them not to do anything. Leave them alone, and they will take care of Iran themselves, no problem at all.

    • Eric Bischoff

      Geez I wonder where they learned that technique. Has anyone seen a copy of or read “Favorite Son”? They are all the same. None of them work for us. They work for the bankers and the corporations. We are just slave labor and we are not even allowed to organize because that threatens their profit model.

      • Lubo

        You talking about the “Fat Cats” in Washington again, aren’t you!

        • William

          Could be the Bilderbergs?

      • DaveH

        Sure, we can follow Eric and his buddies and turn into the worker’s paradise of Cuba.
        No thanks.

        • DaveH

          Would anybody here want to pour millions into a company and then willingly let a Union tell you how much to pay the workers, and who you can hire? And then when you say no, they line up outside your company and harass and intimidate the good people that would happily work for the wages they spurn.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I agree Dave. Just think about it. How backwards is it, for the worker, to tell the owner just how much they will pay them, and how much a percent of a raise they will give them every year, or their reply will be to shut down the company and make them lose money until they give in to their demands. That is just totally asinine. If I owned a company, and my workers formed a union, SLAM. That was the sound of the door closing.

        • DaveH

          Let’s see, do I want to decide what products to buy, and how much to pay, and who to work for at what wage, or do I want to let Eric and his buddies make those decisions for me?
          Let me think about that for a while.

          • Lubo

            DaveH…….Beautimus!!!……LOL! ):>

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Sweet. And to anyone with a brain, it is a no decision on which way to go. Give me the choice of free market, where I decide. The alternative, is the path to socialism where the BIG OLD GOVERNMENT decides for you. Sorry, I dont need that.

          • Claire

            DaveH–Well spoken. I hope everyone reads what you have said.

  • http://personalliberty Ted

    The problem is we don’t have a real president, what we have is someone who wants to destroy America any way he can. What he has done so far is slowly killing us and the greed of congress is leading the way, people’s rights mean nothing and the only goal of this presidency is to gain absolute power and rule.

  • Sea Captain

    When we return to the sea for oil hopefully it will be improved. Thanks to the BP rogue well.

  • Wilbur

    Drill Baby Drill

    • Doc Sarvis

      AND
      Spill baby spill – Kill baby kill.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Remember when the spill first happened Doc, and the drive by liberal media demonized BP so bad, and said this spill was basically the end of the world down there, and all up the east coast, and dred, dred, dred, it was the worlds worst castastrophy. Hmmm. Just watched people swimming on the beach off of Gulfport Mississippi, and Biloxi, and down in Florida. Guess what. No oil. Its all cleaned up and gone. Sure, a few balls still make it in, and might for a couple of months, but then its done. The bad damage was in the estruaries in Mississippi and Louisiana, but those will recuperate in a couple of years, and there will be no evidence of this spill then. What happened to all the doom and gloom the media spewed while demonizing the oil companies? But just think Doc, if it wasnt for the liberals and the greenies, this never would have happened at all, because they would have been drilling safely on land. Im just saying…………

        • blv54

          I’m highly suspicious that all that oil just disappeared, I don’t think so obama ordered the oil spill off the front page and suddenly the well was capped and the oil just went away it’s magic, a lot of damage was done to the gulf and that oil is still out there along with all that corexit, I don’t think I want any shrimp any time soon. they deliberatly blew that well for cap and trade and when it didn’t work obama ordered the well shut down, anyone can figure that one out, and where were all the enviromentalist during all this not a peep out of them don’t ya think that’s odd

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Oil and water separate, always have, always will. It came ashore in balls, and was picked up. Some was skimmed out. And a lot of it was evaporated and eaten by bacteria’s in the water that actually consumed it. The press just sensationalized it with doom and gloom like they always do, especially this time, because they have worked so hard to associate oil with the republicans, yet they take just as much if not more money from Big Oil than anyone, and thats a fact. It messed up marsh lands and weed edges, but too shall pass, but it will take a few years for that part. But the water has purged itself of it, and the shorelines are cleaned up. Just another point that you cant believe what the press tells you. All I heard for months from them was that it was the end of the world for beach fronts and everything. I guess they lied again.

  • Patriot

    Does anyone remember why gas was so expensive when Bush/Cheney were the boss?

    • http://personalliberty Ted

      I believe supply and demand and of course the Iroc war or should I say freedom :/

    • alpha-lemming

      Don’t forget speculation, (probably the main reason) coupled with the fact new refineries haven’t been built in ???~50 years. And the existing refineries are ALWAYS operating at 95+% capacity. You’ll never get increased supply (essential to driving the price down) without increased capacity. This plays into the oil companys’ hands as well…. you’ll never get more profit than when you’re operating at 100% ALL the time

      • CONSERVATIVE AT BIRTH

        And, it was the Clinton Administration that made it more difficult to open new refineries.

        • alpha-lemming

          True… all progressives actually. An omission on my part that I thought would be common knowledge. Tacit assumptions as to the breadth of understanding of some of these posters is a dangerous thing.

        • 45caliber

          One oil trick I learned from the son of one of Gulf Oil’s VP’s. The US government has set a maximum profit limit on oil products. It is 10% profit on any stage of oil production. No more.

          So all oil is sold the moment it reaches the 12-mile Limit on the high seas to a holding company in Hong Kong. The holding company is basically a manager and a secretary in a rented office. It is sold BACK to the oil company when the ship enters another country’s border.

          No one knows who the owner of those holding companies are since Hong Kong does not require proof of ownership as is done everywhere else.

          This serves two purposes. If there is a major oil spill from a ship, the holding company is responsible. And they can disappear very quickly if needed. And it raises the price that the oil companies pay by whatever the holding company charges to sell the oil back so the oil companies can make more profit later in production.

          Incidently, any oil produced in the US is not normally shipped on the high seas so isn’t subject to being sold to the holding company. Further, due to a law the oil companies had Congress pass about 1930, the oil companies only pay $6.25 a barrel for all oil in the US. And that doesn’t make them as much profit as $62.50 a barrel oil for Saudi.

          And also incidently, all oil from Alaska is sent to Japan for processing instead of a pipeline or ships sailing down the intercoastal to the mainland here for processing. They get to sell that oil to the holding company TWICE!

          • Owen

            That sounds like price fixing or communism

    • Brad

      Patriot,

      The primary reason were the hedge fund managers had been bedting on oils rise, whether it was in Sudan, Iran, Iraq and or another region of the world. They would play the “oil is running out card” or “rebels disrupt oil production” which would cause the price of oil to rise on fear and greed.

    • DaveH

      My personal belief is that the high prices resulted from the military excursions. Coincidentally, the same thing occurred when Clinton got us involved in Bosnia.
      Can you imagine how much fuel is used up in those military actions?
      And I don’t recall a single incident of any news program bringing up that possibility when they railed about the high costs of gasoline.

      • DaveH

        You can see, by the way, why neither the Liberals nor the right-wingers would want to bring up that possibility. The Liberals want to force Green on us, so they have a vested interest in the fuel prices going up. And the right-wingers don’t want the public being made aware of the comprehensive costs of their military excursions, as it costs us not only the direct military expenditures but also the indirect costs of higher fuel prices.

        • Only in America

          Yep

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I will tell you why, if you really want the truth. The middle eastern oil companies, and the Venezuelan madman, all jacked up all the prices, in an attempt to get their buddies, the democrats elected. And it worked. Didnt you notice that right after the election, the prices dropped. Hmmmm. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. So we elected the democrats, who are in bed with middle eastern terrorists, their oil companies, the Venezuelan mad man, and George Soros, and you wonder why we are having problems? Gee, I dont why that would be. Are you serious? Wow.

  • Brad

    John Meyers has hit the nail on the head, sc great comment completely concure. Ludo that’s when the democ “Rats” will be happiest, not until all Americans wake up and open their eye’s will they see the type of hope and change wasn’t the cup of tea they were hoping for. The US has so much un-tapped oil reserves in the ground, if we were to tap into those sources we would be energy independent for over 100 year’s. Shoot, we could even sell our oil on the open market and make a killing, we could become the richest country in the world!

    Today we have the green movement, they have obstructed the construction of new nuclear power plants, refineries, coal fired electrical plants and the list goes on. Now I’m all for the environment and in time we can develop renewable forms of energy but that technology is still 10+ year’s down the road. The US can still develop both and as the technology advances then we can start cutting back on the use of oil.

    The Democ “Rats” in the administration and congress want clean energy and they want it now, so where is it, it’s in China not the US, China is building the vast majority of wind turbines being sold around the world. Our POTUS is selling us down the road, in November we the people need to send him a clear message, we the people have had enough of your socialistic dogma and we want our country back! Get rid of all rhino’s from both party’s and elect responsible representation that will listen to their constituants and abide by the Constitution of The United States of America. Enough said, I believe the far left will have something to say about my comments, please bring them on because if we can’t work for our greater good then you are the problem and you need to get out of our way.

    • wilbert

      Michael Oppenheimer one of many adviser to Obama.

      ” The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States: We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the U.S. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are. And it is important to the rest of the world to make sure that they don’t suffer economically by virtue of our stopping them.

      Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund”

      • kate8

        And just who made this guy, or any of the other elites, god?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          The chosen one, Obama.

  • Angel Wannabe

    “Never a let a good crisis go to waste”, Rahm Emanuel said,_and What a more perfect way to push a clean energy agenda, than a oil spill and gas hike!_And putting a halt, on additional oil drilling, will cause more job loss, which in turn, will cause more people to go um-employment__Hell right now there is already record numbers of folks using food stamps__I can hear the Dems now__Snickering as they wring they’re hands, can anyone say, Cloward & Pivan?__Washington has become a haven & an asylum, for power hungry Haaavard elistists idiots!

    • 45caliber

      Angel:

      Speaking of Harvard elites – About ten years ago or so, eight Harvard law students came down here for Spring Break on Padre Island. They opened the back of one of their vehicles and began selling cocaine over the tailgate. The police arrested them.

      Their defense was that as Harvard law students no one had the right to tell them what they could do or what they couldn’t do. Texas, considering we are all hicks here, had to release them.

      I think they are still in prison here somewhere.

      • Angel Wannabe

        45_They make me sick, they all think they are above it all!_I’d certainly settle for an appearance from Christ himself, to show these elitists, just who’s in control here._But they would be like Pharoah_these elite, would snub there nose at any miracle performed, and call out they’re best magicians, in efforts to compete__God’s made them hard hearted___ I truly believe, God’s gonna let them hang themselves._I’ll let ya be now_thanks

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          These elitists you speak of, they are today’s Pharisee’s. Thats all there is to it. They are today’s Pharisee’s. They are seen at all the right events. They sit at the highest spots where man can see them in all their glory. They appear to say and do all the right things. Yet they insist you do as they say, not as they do, for in those moments when they think they arent seen or heard, God see’s the digusting dirty things of their hearts and what is in them, and it is that that will define their future, not their elitist stature that they display before man.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Beberoni__You are so right__God sees everything_even what we humans cannot__it’s the heart of the matter,__and he knows, whats true and what isn’t__My Money’s on Christ himself, not Government___God Bless

        • blv54

          LOL don’t have to worry about that when Jesus comes back they will have a permeate home weinnie roastin in HELL.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Yeah, but they will see them and smell them, but not get to eat any of them. Now thats hell.

  • roger womack

    We need to change the green movement to the brown movement and get every drop we have in the US and tell the Saudi’s to jump up!

    • 45caliber

      Actually, from the figures of how much oil remains in the Mid-East, I’ve got a feeling that the Arabs there will soon be going back to the camel for a way of life. Say in ten years or so. That’s one reason Dubai was built – to try to come up with some method of bringing in more money when the oil is gone.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I truly believe, the believe of those in power, is that we will drain them of their oil, then all their billions will come flying back here to us. Problem is, they got so damn much money, they will probably come over here and buy up the land and oil rights, and still own it, only inside of the United States. They already own a lot of the banks and the gas stations, and they are expanding with all their billions like rabbits.

  • Brad

    If cap and trade or whatever they are calling it today, trust me you all will see $5 or $6 dollar a gallon gas, then who will we have to thank?

    • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

      Oh, we can thank the progressives and all the rest of the Greenies.

    • 45caliber

      What is worse, think of what cap and trade will do to your electric bills! And in the North, heating bills in winter!

      • Only in America

        Higher much higher

        Forcing us to alternatives and conservation.

        I don’t like to be told or forced.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Obama and the democrats. It is their baby.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

    I believe that little disturbance called Katrina had something to do with it.

  • Soldier

    Bobby Jindal = whining sack of pathetic crap. Grow some balls, Bobby, and seceed from the union so more residents in LA don’t die from toxic COREXIST. Secced and form LA as a new country then do what you need to do to protect your people and bring jobs back to LA. What are you afraid of? Will our police and military, who are given God like status on many of our holidays by the thankful but ignorant “neo-conish military loving” sheeple gladly obey orders to chain gun the residents and children of LA? Are you afriad of Civil War 2? People are dying in the Gulf bobby, and their blood is at least partly on your hands because of you lack of any sizeable nut sack. When you die, God will punish your cowardice and take pleasure in doing so.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Wait a minute Soldier, Jindal DID try and nip that oil spill in the bud AND much ealier than Obamas 50 day wait!!!__, he called on Washington for booms, never got them until Washington, was damn good and ready to give them too him__ships were in the gulf, waiting to suck up the oil on the surface of the water, but the EPA I believe Wer INSTRUCTED TO HOLD THEM UP, TO BE SURE THEY HAD THE PROPER LIFESAVING EQUIPTMENT!__THATS JUST POLITICS___There was PLENTY OF Entrepenures’ who offered safe and organic means of sopping up the oil, but WASHINGTON TURNED THEM AWAY!!!___JINDAL IS ALSO THOUGHT TO BE RUNNING ON THE PRESIDENTIAL TICKET IN 2012, THAT WOULDN’T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO, WITH TRYING TO MAKE JINDAL LOOK BAD IN THI OIL SPILL, WOULD IT???
      GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT B 4 YA START BITCHIN!

      • Warren

        Jindal like Louisiana played both sides of the spill. It is another jobs program. Extorting BP is welfare.

        Oil companies for years had to stockpile resources in case of a spill. That is probably why a certain dispersant was used and why it was available in sufficient quantities.

        Louisiana is still a very polluted place and is still sinking into the sea. They were like that before BP.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Warren_ outside of the box_a job from a capitalist, is A HELL OF ALOT better, than being a Government puppet, shaking they’re head yes, just to get a paycheck_Which are the only ones getting jobs today!__ __NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO TELL THE TRUTH, AND WHEN THEY DO, THE POLITICALLY CORRECT CROWD, THREATENS THEM, IF THEY DON’T CHANGE THE LANGUAGE!____POLITICALLY CORRECTIVNESS = MIND CONTROL!?

          • 45caliber

            You are certainly right about Political Correctness. You are not only supposed to say and do what is PC but you are also supposed to THINK that way. And if you don’t you should be punished.

            That was what they used to call brain-washing back after WWII.

          • Only in America

            Yes Freedom

            Of thought first

            and of speach

      • 45caliber

        Angel:

        The ships were stopped for three reasons:

        1) they were foreign and the US should never have foreign ships helping us!

        2) the ships weren’t paying union wages

        3) they had equipment on board ( centrifuges ) the government hadn’t approved for use on oil. The government MUST run tests on them first, you see.

        Besides if the government had actually done its job and did all it could to reduce the oil problem they couldn’t use it to stop all oil production in the Gulf and possibly get Cap and Trade passed.

        (Incidently, I hear Nancy has come up with a solution for that. She wants to have a special session of Congress AFTER the November election to handle such things. Then the Democrats that have been kicked out of office won’t have to worry as they vote for it.)

        • Angel Wannabe

          45caliber, Well that certainly would explain, why the ships were held up in the Gulf, and not doing they’re job_ god forbid, if someone else, gets a job before a union employee!!__Why they might starve to death!__I agree about not letting JUST ANY foreign ships in, but, under the circumstances, why couldn’t they have been searched by the USA, and given the OK, for clean up purposes?___AS for letting this spill go as long as they did, your damn right they’re using it, to stop oil production__and if it’s true what you said about, Hillary selling the offshore oil rights to china, it makes sense!__Thanks for your insight__I’m always willing to listen, to those wo make sense___GOD BLESS

          • Angel Wannabe

            45caliber_that was suppose to been “WHO”.

          • Only in America

            Since Valdez there was a rule for double hull tankers in American Waters.

            That rule could have been lifted in an emergency.

            That actor’s centrifuges were later employed by BP on their own vessels.

    • Halbert

      Yes, Jindal is.

    • 45caliber

      Soldier:

      You’ve never been a soldier, have you?

      • Steve

        .45 caliber,
        Was that particular “soldier” ever in the service? I doubt it. The only service he is familiar with is LIP SERVICE, and most of that he performs on his knees………

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Why are you attacking Bobby Jindal? Because Obama and the democrats let this rigged come into the Gulf, and start drilling in Feb. 2010, and decided they didnt need to make sure it was safe and didnt check it out? So this is now Jindal’s fault? What a liberal. Always having a finger to point at someone else. Jindal fought for help way before it hit shore, way before that. It was Obama who refused help from governments who offered state of the art skimmers to capture the oil. It was Obama who said “we have to let the unions work on the cleanup”, and watched them watch the oil come in because they didnt have the equipment to skim it. Man, why dont you just come out and say it was Bush/Cheney/Halliburton that did it? My gosh man, get a life. And if your a soldier, you are AWOL, and need court martialed, because you sir, are no soldier. You are a liberal attack finger pointer. Shame on you. Bobby Jindal is a good man. I have done my homework on him. He is a good man.

      • Claire

        Beberoni–I agree with you. At least Jindal hit the ground running the minute this oil spill happened. He didn’t screw around saying “Duh, what do we do now.” Geez, I can imagine the scene in the White House and Congress–stumbling around trying to figure out what they should do next. Running around and bumping into each other. Our government is sad. No, tragic is the best word.

  • chucky

    The whole agenda of this administration was to convert America to green as fast as possible at whatever cost and sell it as a cheaper alternetive, as All of Obama’s biggest green(money) supporters are invested up to their eyeballs in green energy companies. The problem is The middle class will not spend 30-50k to convert their in most cases upside down(owe more than the home is worth) houses. They will try to sell you the old technology, cover your whole roof with solar panels(ala silicon valley bait and switch game in the 90′s buy a computer with the newest technology for 4k and 6 months later it is outdated) They thought that this was going to be the area where job creation, new business ventures, would be the engine to jumpstart the economy,Make them all richer and give them control of the energy sector. Did not work,will not work(will only cause more jobs lost). I believe we should take oil as compensation for the war effort and training and arming of their(Iraqui) military. If not for our oil reserve, then to keep the prices down for the American people.

    • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

      Problem is, green is NOT cheaper. If cap and trade passes, energy costs will go up at least 35-50%.

      • Lubo

        Try about 200-300%

        • Mexican

          Yikes MUCHO GRANDE

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Green is for Guacamole. Thats all its good for.

    • 45caliber

      Considering all the oil found in the last few years in the US, we don’t need an oil reserve! They found one area in the NW that has more oil than any other place on Earth. And that is just one area. Actually the US has more oil inside our country than most of the rest of the world put together – except the government doesn’t want us to drill for it.

      • Lubo

        Actually we share the largest oil reserve in the world with Canada, of which the Lion’s share falls within their territory. Estimates range from 100-150 years of oil supply in this one area. Not sure if this is accurate though because you cannot believe anything you read in this country anymore.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And you and I both know, that if it wasnt for the liberals and the greenies, we would have our own oil, and be independant of the middle eastern terrorists oil, and the price of gas would be down to a buck a gallon. But these damn lawyers that run everything, the government, the courts and all, they are so damn corrupt it makes me sick. It really does. It makes me sick, that people who live here, and call themselves Americans, can actually place putting dollars in their pockets, ahead of what is best for the country that provides them all their opportunities, that in their quest for the allmighty dollar, they would take the roads that would lead to destroying this same country. Like I said, it makes me sick.

        • Lubo

          Me and you both , my friend.

  • Richard

    If we were serious about energy alternatives, we would already have a Manhattan style project in place to develop alternative forms of green oil production such as algae biofuels. As Picken’s said and we all tend to forget, buying foreign oil is the largest transfer of wealth out of the Unite States in its history. We need to stop the bleeding as soon as possible.

    • Only in America

      When we fill’er up we should remember

    • DaveH

      We don’t need any wasteful government-run projects. If an alternative energy scheme is economically viable, then investors will step up to the plate and research it and develop it without putting the taxpayers on the hook. When peoples’ own money is at stake, you can bet they are going to do a more efficient job at it then are the Government bureaucrats who are spending other peoples’ money.

  • http://charter howe

    The misguided approach to offshore drilling moritorium will cost the Gulf 84,000 jobs because the rigs are too expensive to operate without being able to drill, like almost a million dollars a day. The oil companies are already beginning to leave the Gulf for the coastal areas of the mediteraneam and off the Libyan coast. This simple minded moritorium is the result of a community organizer mentality that believes that this action is needed to force more wind and solar power. At the risk of being subserviant to rogue nations for our oil and sacrificing national security, this President will not allow his EPA Czar and company to lift the drilling ban til Dec 2010. Losing this kind of industry because the environmentalist and the President want to hold off shore oil drilling hostage is way too premature to make the transition from oil to green energy, because we will bankrupt our country without a long term viable process to convert when we have the resources etc in place. This Harvard reject wants to put the horses and cows in the barn, then build the barn. Meanwhile massive oil drilling reductions more massive job killing scenarios and spend and tax into a deficit nightmare, then Obama, Pelosi and Reid want to pass cap and trade to insure that families pay near 10 bucks a gallon for gas. Of course they will not call it a tax for people who make under 200,000 dollars a year. And did I mention that the Whitehouse and Liberal Democratic support for amnesty will spread the wealth so thin I wouldn’t be surprise to see Bill Gates flipping hamburgers. People, you have to make it a high priority mission to vote all these radicals out of office or we won’t have a Republic. Our children deserve better and so do we.

    • George

      I agree it has been long enough to find out what went wrong.

      Drill Baby Drill

    • 45caliber

      The whole intent all along was to stop drilling off-shore in American waters. I believe that this entire oil leak fiasco was sabotage for several reasons and it was designed to give them the excuse to shut down drilling.

      From what I’ve heard previously, China had decided with TARP I that the US was way in over our heads and that the dollar was going to fall in value. They were planning to sell their supply of treasury notes which would have basically bankrupt the US. Hillary made a fast trip to China right after the election to get them to stop selling and actually buy more.

      From what I heard, true or not, she basically sold the off-shore oil rights in the Gulf to China in return. China is certainly drilling now at the edge of our border at sea to get at the oil there. And further, I heard that she basically put up the off-shore oil on the East and West Coasts as collateral for the continued borrowing Oblama needed to do.

      In any case, we can’t drill off shore any more. This was the ‘crisis’ they needed to shut off the oil drilling.

      • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

        I concur completely.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I wouldnt doubt any of the evil anti American things that woman is capable of. Everyone knows slick willy was an evil bastard, but he has got nothing on Hillary.

  • Matt V

    John why would you print a good story like you have before the graph then you put an advertisement in to invest in big oil. that really sucks. we know its the Bilderberg calling the shots here.

  • sylviaM

    I think that 99.9% of Americans would gladly go Green in *time* because thats what it will take to *go GREEN* if the GOV. would STOP shoving it down our Throats just because HE stomped his foot like the *CHILDISH* person that HE is. We all want our children to grow up in a CLEAN Invirement and would do whatever it takes to make it happen. With one exception, WE WILL NOT GO COMMUNIST, to get it. We don’t NEED anyone telling us that we are *STUPID & RACIST* and that we NEED THE GOV. to survive In other words WE THE PEOPLE will do what is best for our familys on our own, and detest OBAMA or MICHELLE OBAMA to tell us how, where, and when to do it. THE WHITE HOUSE IS NOT TIGHTENING THEIR BELTS BUT TELLING US WE HAVE TO.God Bless America

    • 45caliber

      sylvia:

      If you check, the countries with the highest pollution rates are all Communist. Russia and most of Eastern Europe are excellent examples and China is working hard to take over the lead.

      One of the cleanest countries in the world is the US. Yes, we like our energy but we do want to leave our children a clean place to live as well. In fact, we spend more on pollution control and cleanup than just about all the rest of the world put together.

      • Lubo

        I agree completely!

  • Patriot

    We are being brainwashed into thinking that carbon emissions somehow is destroying the environment. The only reason to not explore for fossil fuels is to increase the energy price, tax the emission (which is another myth) so that the politicians in control can make more money to fund the public sector (which is the largest growing sector of our economy). When the average public sector employee $72,498 per year is now making more then an average private sector employee $65,790 we all know that this is un-sustainable. This is the biggest fraud on the public, STOP the insanity! November or 2010 and 2012, cannot get here fast enough!

    • 45caliber

      Don’t blame just the government! Big Al Gore has a lot of money tied up in stock in companies that have the ability to remove CO2 from stacks. All he needs is the government(s) to insist that it has to be removed and he stands to make BILLIONS!

      Besides, as I mentioned below, Frank stands to make BILLIONS too on cap and trade.

      Aren’t you ashamed of yourself, preventing these men from becoming rich?

    • 45caliber

      Incidently, want to lower the CO2 amount? PLANT A TREE! Or any other plant. Plants use up CO2 and produce O2 we need for breath. And they grow faster and produce more.

      Besides, it’s cheap and easy to do. Further, a good tree can easily use more CO2 than you can breathe out.

    • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

      There have been times in our past when, according to research, the CO2 levels were more than five times higher than now. Both animal and human life thrived. When the CO2 level reaches a certain point, the cloud cover increases also, reflecting more energy back into space, neutralizing the warming effects of the CO2.

      • Kenny

        Yeah BUT people weren’t there then and the bugs were as big as us.

    • al sieber

      Patriot, oil is not a fossil fuel, that’s a misnomer, “TIME” is right.Al Gore and his father have strong ties to Occidental Petro.

  • FreedomFighter

    Its all about control and power, nothing else.

    They forge chains of economic slavery for Americans, while the whole time we Americans are rich in energy resources of coal, oil, and natural gas. In addition, we have prime solar and wind locations through out the country.

    They would enslave thru false pretense, guilt, lies, and distribute ill-got gains to the unworthy to solidify power and control.

    Marxist lies for control and power, vote them all out.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Lubo

      Laus…..Well said! See my response above on this issue. Progressive-marxist lies…..nothing more, nothing less! It’s that simple!

      • wilbert

        But it is for a good cause if they lie.

        “What we’ve got to do in energy conservation is try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, to have approached global warming as if it is real means energy conservation, so we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.

        —Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator (D-Colorado)”

    • 45caliber

      Freedom:

      You are just trying to prevent Barney Frank from getting rich … RICH!!!

      After all, he has a patent on cap and trade. You see, every house would be issued a CO2 allowance. But since the Freddy Mac and Fannie May owns the mortgages on millions of homes, then he came up with the idea of “selling” the CO2 allowances on them to industry. So the government (I suppose) would get some of that money and he would get a HUGE sum as royalties on the idea.

      Shame on you! You are just trying to keep a man from getting wealthy!

      • Only in America

        I think Goldman Sacks has a market for us

    • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

      Absolutely!

  • Judy

    obama the wizard of US

  • http://gmail i41

    It sounds like several greenies must be smoking airy fairy cow pie dust, and that are in love with the marxist democrat envior crap. There is two electrical power plants that were ready to come on line. Along with a 140 wind generators that were shut down by Onumnutt’s administration and his flaky EPA f#$kups. The area that is involved in close to ND, SD, & Minn borders. Another problem, is the grid delivery problem, which will take a decade or two to get permits and envior studies. Most of the posts tell me that you morons sit, just like your muslim marxist moron and dream in theories not realaty. The reason China has more generators, is because that is where the power ends are made, union workers are too slow and cost to much. The Volt only goes 40 miles, to sit for $ hours to charge on a 240 out let, but can go 350 miles on fuel, someone is selling a b–l s–t bill of goods. Oh it is the Government Motors Company with the union run thugs, Oil is more damn abundant than any where else, right here in the USA on land, not in the deep water. If pee brains would check facts instead of unproven theories. Corn used for ethonal is a feed grade not for human consuption, and GMO doesn’t have s–t to do with it. When you eat certified Angus beef, it is been bred using other breeds for centuries, to create an effiencent grass converter to protein for humans organisms. For any of you nut and vegans, there isn’t enough tillable land in the world, to support even 10% of the population on grasses and greens, just some overeducated dumbazzed idoit theorizing on feel good crap. If the government anal idoits hadn’t fell in love with ethanol and cellose fuel production, we would have more diesel powered vehicles. When we were paying over 4.50 a gallon for gas, EU shipped tanker loads of gasoline to the USA.Eu uses diesel since it easier to make and cheaper to make, even though they tax the hell out of it. Diesel takes penny to produce and gas has so much more steps and labor and a way more complex plant than diesel. The crap idea of more gas powered vehicles only in the USA was hatched with the dope heads of the late 60′s and 70′s. Case in point, all of our manufacturing vehicle plants ship over across the pond, diesel cars to them. In 2006 when the marxist dems decided to halt all diesel powered inported vehicles to the USA for a couple years. When Onumnutts went to the Ford pant last week, those vehicles were going across to the EU with diesel engines, DUH&UMM Omoron wouldn’t know sh-t, t is out of his pay grade and he isn’t educated enough. Volkwagon, Mercedes could not export their cars until the EPA allowed it. Volkwagan has been sending their dieselcars over here that make over 50+ miles a gallon -40+ town. My dasughter has one and was going to buy a new one in 2007. Your simple minded marxist socialist democrats wants everyone to ride a bike like they do in some 3rd world nation. A dieselmotor will last at least any where from 500,000- to a 1,000,000 miles. Gas motors last 150,000-250,000 with some high priced repairs. Are all democrats this damn stupid or do they just drink sewage water as pure water and think theories are going to work, the tecknology might happen in 50 years but we had better use what has been working very effienctly. Wake up you idoit greenies, just a few months remember the sky is falling and everything was lost in the gulf, the cap and trade bull is the same thing, In 1980 we were going to freeze to death and 30 years later we will get baked, gut the wasteful taxpayer money paid programs that spend billions, and get no returns on the money, spent on “studing the solutions”, weather isn’t static, and always varies dwcade to decade.

    • libertytrain

      I can’t resist a thought that came to my mind re your: “Your simple minded marxist socialist democrats wants everyone to ride a bike like they do in some 3rd world nation.”

      Since she seems to think she walks on water does she not ride on water as well – couldn’t the wife have taken her bike to get to Spain?

      • Steve

        Good point Liberty. However, after huge cost overuns in trying to design “the required” bicycle seat, extensive exploration in an attempt to find enough new raw materials, and the huge labor expenditures to assemble such a seat, the bicycle for “Muchchelle” was eventually scrapped. That, plus the fact they feared they would never be able to teach her the whole “balance” thing (she leans too heavily to the left) & the bicycle project was immediately shelved. Much better to just bone the taxpayers one more time for a jumbo jet vacation. ;-)

        • Spamom838896

          Next thing you know O will have us all driving on the left! :P

    • 45caliber

      i4U: An electrical car

      Back in the 70′s a woman I knew had a paper route. 55 miles a day, not counting her running around and it was in the Ozark mountains, up and down hill.

      A company asked her to test an electric car. She had to pay for the electrical charge but they put a meter on it to see how much was needed. It ran on six standard car batteries. She drove it for two years. I’ve even ridden in it.

      She got about 350 miles per charge. It took 30 minutes to recharge from any 110v outlet. And it ran at 65 mph top speed without losses on hills. The ONLY problem she had was that she had to replace the batteries after a year. But $300 isn’t bad for maintenance. And her cost for the electrical energy? $12.50 a month average.

      When they came back to pick up the car, she wanted to buy it or a new one just like it. The people picking it up told her that they couldn’t sell it. They had been bought out by General Motors.

      • Wally

        You are sounding like a conspiracy person.

        Just kidding

        They was something on TV about that

        Called “Who Killed The Electric Car”

        • libertytrain

          It’s funny, I just heard a story about those cars from a fellow this weekend who is into cars – we were discussing today’s vehicles (he’s really a car fanatic and a carpenter by trade but can build cars and repair cars) —and told us about it.

      • DaveH

        Of course, and GM was going bankrupt because they stubbornly refused to bring that energy efficient electric car out of mothballs and instead sunk hundreds of millions of dollars into researching energy-efficient fuel cell cars, etc.
        Darn those car companies are so stubborn.
        http://reason.org/news/show/going-green

        • Claire

          DaveH–I think some of the problem was that a lot of people wanted SUVs. Me for one.

  • http://ri7044@gmail.com Robert Ingram

    Soldier is just another stupid liberal with a big mouth spewing crap that he parrots from lib blogs.

    • George

      Be nice he is likely posting from the front in Afghanistan

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        If he is, then he is on the other side opposing us, judging by his own words.

  • Spamom838896

    Most of this discussion is focused on gas prices and how that will lead to other prices going higher due to the expense of delivery. What about the products that are petroleum based? You can’t make a product out of solar power. We still need to utilize the petroleum options we have available here, not just completely switch to solar or wind or other alternatives. There are responsible ways of extracting the petroleum, it was created to be useful.

    • 45caliber

      You are correct. I work in the chemical industry that makes plastics. All come from oil. Just think how many things would go away without it. Clothing, cars, CD’s, electronics, …

  • wilbert

    ” You can’t make a product out of solar power”
    But you need Oil to make solar panels.

    • Spamom838896

      Amongst many other things, my point exactly.

      • George

        That is why is shouldn’t be wasted and Obama should seize everyone elses

        • DaveH

          Please tell me you’re kidding, George.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          He cant even seize forming a direction to go, let alone anything else.

  • http://nun MELVIN KING

    I DON’T SEE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING HOW SERIOUS THE
    CONDITION OF THIS COUNTRY IS. MOST ARE ONLY LOOKING FOR WHAT
    THE GOVERNMENT CAN DO FOR THEM! I DON/T BELIEVE ANYTHING THE
    OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TELLS ME, THEY TELL THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY
    WANT TO HEAR. OH! I ALSO LISTEN TO RUSH LIMBAUGH.
    KEEP UP THE GOOD STUFF.
    MELVIN KING

  • Eric Bischoff

    Oh snap out of it! Some of this can be done immediately. You obviously just woke up or something. The minute Bush was running and putting together his cabinet I said to my friends., War & Oil. Well that’s what it was all about now wasn’t it. So let’s not be hypocrites and blame everything on the new guy. Besides even if he had great ideas and the best intentions, nothing would change in this country as we are stuck in gridlock just arguing instead of coming together to solve big problems. This entire government and most of the population has no clue about how to solve these gigantic problems, they are not equipped to make good decisions, they are not asking the right questions, and they are not asking from the right people. Peak oil, running out of water, running out of top soil, running out of food, rising temperatures, desertification, deforestation (the lungs of the planet). That’s what’s coming. There are solutions but no one is really listening. They don’t believe facts that they disagree with. They are in complete denial. They are constantly headed west looking for the sun to rise.

    We knew in the 70s that oil would run out and that our carbon fuels were polluting the planet. We did nothing. Isn’t it time to be bold and make real changes. Isn’t it time for a radical alternative energy policy? And I don’t mean more drilling, more coal, more nuclear. These technologies are too polluting and too destructive and in the case of nuclear way too expensive and too slow to come online. Clean coal is an oxymoron, it doesn’t exist. Tar sands and mountain top removal is a crime against mother earth. Wall St and the private sector won’t invest in nuclear unless we guarantee the loans and subsidize mining the uranium, managing the waste and even decommissioning the old reactors. The only reason to have nuclear energy is to keep the nuclear weapons industry alive. I say screw that. Let’s move on. We have enough nukes to destroy the planet many times over. There is so much new technology that it is a crime that we are not yet applying them at full speed. That is where the stimulus money should have gone, not to bankers who are just sitting on the money. Too afraid to lend (more fear).

    We are stuck in our old ways too afraid to change. Fear fear and more fear. We act tough yet we are scared most of time. We cannot and will not accomplish greatness unless we deal with our fear. The leaders know it and they take advantage of it strictly for purposes of greed and control.

    • Spamom838896

      Eric, you managed to rip on all existing energy, yet offered not one specific “new technology” idea. And, as I stated earlier, this isn’t strictly about energy. Petroleum is found in so many other products, how do you propose to do away with all the products we use everyday that also contain petroleum? Other countries are using sugarcane for fuel. Why are we pumping money into corn ethanol which takes more fuel to make than you get when you are done? Uncle Sam is so worried about our weight, if we used all the sugar for fuel, wouldn’t that make us skinny again??? The political hype is just “oil is bad and oil companies are worse”, they aren’t in it to “solve” anything.

      • Eric Bischoff

        Actually I didn’t rip on all existing just the problem ones which are all carbon based and nuclear.

        Do you really need me to list alternative solutions? Solar, Wind, Geothermal, Cold Fusion, Conservation, Efficiency, Cogeneration just to start. We could do this. I know some of you will argue to the end like that’s gonna help. The sooner we start the better off we will be. The time for arguing is past.

        Even if global warming was not directly related to our burning of fossil fuels, we still need to get off that tit. Our entire food production which is based on chemical fertilizers is at risk.

        I don’t think people can comprehend the changes in the world related to population growth and the coming online of a middle class in India and China.

        I’ll give you a metaphor for competing for resources in the world. This is from the Worldwatch Institute that compiles the bible for what we produce and consume in the world.

        If the Chinese Middle Class decides to have one more beer per week, it will take the entire grain crop of Sweden to satisfy that thirst. All I can say is let’s hope they are not going for a whole six pack!

        • 45caliber

          If we have cold fusion then I don’t know of it. It is a theory only at this point and only works in small amounts in labs to my knowledge. But I’m willing to be educated – if it now exists.

          Nuclear is safer than any other energy and can be used. It is used extensively in Europe now. The big problem here is that the oil companies don’t own it.

          Coal is plentiful too – and we have the knowledge now to remove sulfur and other contaminants from the exhaust that is the problem with burning coal. CO2? Not a problem and never has been. But Big Al has a huge investment in equipment to remove CO2 – and if he can get governments to make removal a requirement he stands to make billions.

          Oil and natural gas also fall under the coal problems. But the BIG problem is inefficiency of our car motors. They can – and have been – be built to use far more of the gasoline. At present only about 15% of gasoline produces energy; the rest is wasted. Every time someone comes up with a way to make them better, the car companies and the oil companies buy up the patents. Conservation? Not if it reduces profits. And don’t blame all on the oil companies. Try patenting and producing a more efficient motor and see what the government does to you. They get billons off fuel taxes. If you double the efficiency of motors, they get half as much money.

          Cogeneration helps some because it recovers waste heat. But you have to have a reason to generate it in the first place. I work in an industry that does use it. Geothermal is barely researched and so far is only able to produce very minor amounts of energy.

          • Only in America

            Keep on thinking

            America invented the transistor, the photovoltaic cell and most every thing the Chinese pirated.

            We can do it.

        • DaveH

          Oh, sure, we should all just quit arguing and do it Eric’s way. And if we don’t do it willingly, he and his all-knowing gang will force it on us.
          You can see in his eyes that he only has the best intentions. So, we need not worry.
          http://reason.org/news/show/going-green

        • DaveH

          Solar is still not economically viable. Maybe someday, but right now we would be spending more for the same amount of energy.
          And Wind Generators? What a joke on the citizens. Not only are they not economically viable (they only exist through Government force and subsidy), but they are an immense eye-sore that the Liberals would be screaming about if it hadn’t been their idea. I drive through the Palm Springs, California area occasionally and the l00′s of wind generators that line the freeway are garish to say the least. And now the misguided Liberals are upset about the number of birds that are killed by them. What a web they weave.
          If any of the alternative energy schemes were economically viable, they wouldn’t need the backing of Government subsidies and force. The citizens would buy them willingly. Liberals love Big Government. It is the only way they can get their blue-sky schemes on the market.

        • blv54

          eric your a new age idiot way I can tell is your use of the term mother earth yuck! as for overpopulation ain’t no such thing theres billions of miles of land mass not even in use,as for getting off oil and coal and going nuclear or some other high tech solution never gonna happen the government wants us 3rd world that’s why there taking the whole pie they want to destroy us for the new world order and they ain’t gonna let nothin get in there way, that is unless the other 99% wake up and stop them.

    • 45caliber

      Eric:
      You’ve been reading some of Big Al Gore’s stuff, haven’t you?

      First, oil. Yes, in 1970 or so everyone was certain that we were just about out of oil. Since then we have found so much of it that we have far more reserves now than we did then – and if I remember correctly they were talking about enough oil for over a thousand years then.

      Coal? Yes, there are problems with it, mainly sulphur. But we know how to get it out now. However, if we started doing that, it wouldn’t give the green people like you a way to argue about not using it, would there? Besides, Big Al has so much money tied up in equipment to remove CO2 that he isn’t worried about the real contaminants.

      CO2? Just something that helps all the plants grow faster and better. According to scientists there has been FAR more CO2 in the air in the past than is there today. And we didn’t put it there either. Want to help remove CO2 from the air? Plant a tree. It is simple, cheap, and cheats Big Al of billions of dollars he’d like to be paid.

      Nukes? The safest energy source on the planet. Check Europe, particularly France. And it is almost the cheapest. Only natural gas generation (which produces CO2) is cheaper. We also have plenty of fuel. Worried about getting rid of the waste product? Stick a not-so-safe fission plant on some island or in orbit and regenerate it.

      Don’t believe the pamplets of the Green Movement. They have ulterior motives.

    • Lubo

      and all this straight from the Book of Eric! Let’s see your plan all omnipotent one! Are you a “Progressive”? Bet you are because you present yourself as just so superior to us underlings. We are just stuck in the past and don’t get “Hope and Change”…..BALONY!!!!!

      Let’s see some FACTS and hopefulloy it is not from the same scientist that tried to sell us this “Global Warming” crap! I graduated HS in 1974 and the same scientist told us then that by the end of the century we would enter into the NEW ICE AGE! What happened?!?! Didn’t work out for them now did it? Now we are about to EXPLODE in a ball of flames if we don’t get this cap and trade crap passed!!! Sell that crap to a two year old!

      WAR over OIL????? BALONY!!! What kind of illogical mind do you have? We have had and continue to have all the OIL we need, so why do you think the past WARS were about OIL!?!?!?! Just another progressive anti-american lie!

      We went to WAR to fight against communism, socialism, marxism and all other forms of “Progressive-Marxist” dictatorial regimes!!! Nothing more and nothing less!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      News flash to Eric. Bush is gone. Has been for two years. Stop pointing fingers and looking behind you. Something just might catch up to you. Live in the here and now. Your boy is in charge. What is he going to do? What has he done? Nothing, but being like you, pointing fingers and placing blame. That is the problem we are dealing with today. You cant change history, you can only form what you are going to do today and tomorrow, and you cant get there, pointing the finger at yesterday. Now wake up and be a part of the solution, not a part of the problem. Now gas up your truck and get down to the unemployment office and pick up your check.

  • Annie Ladysmith

    Thanks, this is a good tip. The problem is the rididculous propaganda they have pushed on the stupid people of the West, which is, Peak Oil.
    Oil is pentiful and can basically be discovered anywhere. The biggest lie is that it is a “fossil fuel”. Research what the russian scientists have already documented for years, and now Russia, once an oil poor country is now supplying Europe. Stop this deception now!

    • Eric Bischoff

      Peak oil means the oil that can be had is in decline now. I believe that the Russians are also saying that we are fools for drilling so deep and that we are opening up Pandora’s box and we will be sorry. They may know something. The gulf disaster strengthens that argument. I believe that we are not out of the woods on that one regardless of what the latest propaganda.

      And even if you were right about the amount of oil, should we take it all out and burn it and accelerate the levels of CO2 or are you in denial about that. Or should we risk the potential effect on plate movements as some scientist believe that this fluid helps keeps the plates moving.

      Should we risk it all for the sake of having the ability to keep driving a Hummer? I know some of you think that way. Screw the future I want to be able to do what I want now. This is America.

      I’d like to think that we are smarter and we care more and that we can change. But after the message of hope and change you need ACTION otherwise it was all a waste of time. And action has to come from all of us together one nation……..

      • Brad

        Eric,

        Sorry but what do all plants have in common, they consume CO2 for lunch, through photosynthesis each plant converts CO2 and the by product is O2. Every single human being/mamal exhales CO2 as a byproduct from our body’s exhalation of O2. We humans and animals expell more CO2 then industry and our cars produce daily. CO2 has never been considered a green house gas except in a liberal or progressives eye’s. Al Gore was proven wrong about CO2 and it sounds as if you are relying on junk science to try and make your point also.

        Sure we need to find alternative forms of renewable energy, but what do we have right now? Electricity, Hydrogen (very unstable highly flamable), biofuels ie., biodiesal from allgee, ethanol (has to be mixed with gas to give it a kick), so please what’s your idea? You can only complain that nothing is being done when our scientists are working hard to find answers to the fundamental problems of today to give us the answers for tomorrow. Where is your commonsence at man, did you check it at the door, bring some fresh ideas that can be discussed rationably and with decorum.

        So what ever happend to the guy who built a hydrogen conversion devise for your vehicle saw something on youtube some time ago, now that would be interesting to find on a car in the near future. Just add a gallon of water apply an electrical current through a probe in the water and the by-product is hydrogen gas which is then burned and it’s by-product is water, hmmmm.

        • 45caliber

          Brad:
          Two things. First, more CO2 means faster plant growth and more yield. And considering our growth in sheer numbers, we may need that food.

          Second, it takes more electrical energy to produce hydrogen from water than you will get by burning it. But the man who did that got rich off the idea. The perpetual motion machine has never been developed and never will as long as the existing scientific laws of the universe exist. And that is what this machine would have been. There are ALWAYS losses. And those losses prevent such a thing from producing even as much energy as it requires to make hydrogen.

          It is possible, however, to improve on the gasoline engines now out. At the moment only about 15% of the gasoline is converted to actual power. The rest is basically burned in the exhaust system. Better built engines (car engines are actually sloppy fits) can increase fuel efficiency. So can better bearings. (Did you know the wheel bearings, for instance, are considered ultra-light?) In fact, fuel efficient cars have been built – and then disappeared as the car and oil industry bought up the patents.

          • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

            Contrary to common belief, overunity generators do not defy the laws of physics. They work, they are relatively simple to construct and are extremely cost-effective.

          • George

            that is a lot of mowing the grass and trimming the trees

      • 45caliber

        The major problem here is that to convert to another energy, you need to have that energy in place. For instance, shutting off the oil for energy program is fine – but what are you going to replace it with today?

        Nothing? How long will it take to replace oil with other sources? Ten years? Fifty years? More? Should we cut off all oil NOW on the expectation of getting more energy fifty years from now?

        Anyone want to answer these questions for me?

        • Brad

          45caliber,

          I like your train of thought, its encouraging to read commonsence from you and others, some posts are just plain out there or full of hate and bigotry.

      • wilbert

        ” accelerate the levels of CO2 or are you in denial about that”
        No but we are also not science challenged enough to believe that CO2 is a problem. Further More Greenhouse gases are inside a greenhouse and Atmospheric gases are in the atmosphere…. It is not really a hard concept to grasp for most people.

        • Brad

          wilbert lets not forget our atmosphere is made up of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, and 1% other gases which are not limited to argon, helium, oh and yes CO2.

      • wilbert

        ” The gulf disaster strengthens that argument.”
        If the Greens would have not push Oil rigs far out to sea and let them recover /pump on land …the The gulf disaster would have never happened. Just like when N.O. tried for years to shore up the Levees because the natural barriers had been removed for shipping lanes, the greens(EPA) took to the court and had this urgent needed shoring block for 20 years because some RAT or turtle ? was being in danger of having to be relocated.So far everything the Greens have done has been nothing but failures. Dreaming VS reality…I choose reality.

        • Brad

          wilbert

          I’m sorry sir, the greenies won’t admit they were wrong neither will the Democ “Rats”.

          • Only in America

            No one ever does. They just blame Bush or Clinton.

            We need to go beyond.

        • 45caliber

          The Green Ideal (I’ve read it somewhere) is for inner cities to build high apartment complexes to minimize the land used. All people would be moved to these apartments and be confined there. A wall would be built around the cities to prevent people from going outside. All the rest of the world would be allowed to go back to nature.

          Of course someone would be needed to observe this nature and to insure it remains pristine. Since the world is such a large place, they would have to have nice houses (that fit into nature) all over the world. And only the people there would be allowed to roam the land to insure it was being handled correctly and no one was slipping out of the cities to foul it up.

          And guess who those paragons (the only people allowed to see the real world) would be?

      • Lubo

        Hope and change to do what? Become the next poor soles to be ruled by “Progressive-marxism”? Good luck with that! Obviously you nor our current KING understands the will of the American people but you will come November.

        Keep your progressive Hope and change to yourself and mind your own business. If you can just focus on your life and your business, I think we can handle ours!

      • DaveH

        Are you kidding about the CO2, Eric? The global warming scam has been put to bed. It was a fraud. Do some reading, Liberal. You guys claim to have open minds. So read some books explaining the politics of Global Warming (now called Climate Change because the public has become wary). Here’s just one source:
        http://www.amazon.com/Great-Global-Warming-Blunder-Scientists/dp/1594033730/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1281575666&sr=8-1

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I’ll say one thing, youve got the coolest name on this thread.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        This was to Annie Ladysmith

  • chuck b

    oil is money. standard oil, the first u.s. oil company learned that when profits started falling, create a shortage!!. this is the tool they use and they have the environmentalist in their back pocket. i believe they subsidized the environmental whacko’s that fought against nuclear power. in california alone the oil companies would have lost huge oil contracts if the nuclear power plants had been allowed to proceed. crude oil is used for manufacturing, approximately 45% per barrel goes to gasoline. we have an abundance of natural gas, in fact an infinite supply. changing our cars to natural gas could be done overnight. the car would run clean without all the smog controls and the engine would have less maintenance. guess who doesn’t want this.

    • 45caliber

      They do finance the whackos as you called them. An environmental group that demonstrated at 3-Mile-Island received large funds from oil companies. So have other groups such as the Sierra Club.

      Every time someone says something about “We have discovered all the oil in the world” someone comes up with a new, large deposit. At the moment, we have more known reserves in the US that most of the rest of the world combined. Particularly the Mid-East. I saw some figures a month or two ago that showed that the Mid-East was basically scraping the bottom of their barrel. Only about 10-15% of the original oil is still left.

      Nuclear energy is the ONLY way we can go. Europe has already figured that out, particularly France. Wind takes too much room and is very expensive for the amount of power it puts out. Solar power is even worse. University of Pennsylvania once determined that it would take over 300 square MILES of solar cells to run just the university. And they couldn’t see any Green person allowing them to clear and level that much land. Hydro, except for small facilities, has been used up in the US. There aren’t any more places to build the huge dams required, much less the loss of the land that would be covered in water.

      But to tell the truth, I don’t believe that our government really WANTS us to be energy-sufficient. They want us to be begging for it from places like the Mid-East. Then we won’t dare go to war with anyone because they would cut us off. And that way the Muslims or whoever can take over the world without our interferance.

      • DaveH

        Whether they want us to be energy independent or not, they are definitely in favor of keeping up the illusion that we can’t survive without their help.

  • Lynn

    Eric, you never offered a solution, just a bunch of words.
    This country has natural gas reserves that are MASSIVE in layers under most of the eastern US,we have oil reserves we have never touched, we have other resources that need to be combined with “green” to keep everything going–wind, solar etc only suppy about 3% of our fuel now. You can’t go from 3% to 100% in 1 or 2 years without a lot of people dying–because there is NO energy they can afford. My guess is that that includes all of us on this blog?!!
    Obamacare will kill us first because there are death commities–best name I can think of–that will evaluate who gets care and care WILL be RATIONED. I am a nurse and have dealt with patients returning to socialist countries and i know the care they don’t receive. I know how the Great Britain model (which they are stopping) has limited healthcare and once you are 75 they will only treat an immediate problem and from then on you are Totally on your own.(stroke for example)There was an article in Readers Digest yearssss ago that talked about a woman who was waiting for gall bladder surgery. She had waited 4-5 years, she resolved the whole thing by going into a hospital and lying in the bed, refused to get out until they did her surgery. Any of you in pain and waiting a week or 2 for surgery–try years. Same goes with hip replacement, etc. If it costs too much and you aren’t worth it–remember Obama’s comment–send them home and give them a pill. We also need to pay attention that one trillion plus of our money (aren’t we in a recession/depression?) was given to help Greece out of her bankruptcy but first they had to agree to get rid of theire socialized medicine–NO MORE HEALTH CARE FOR EVERYONE–or they didn’t get the money!The warnings were there before the election-most chose to ignore them. Anyone read his books about his life–a statement in one was (paraphrased) if there was ever a “question” he would come down on the side of the muslims. There should be no question about his bowing and scrapping and his treatment of Netanyahu-when he left him to write out an answer Obama asked him while Obama went out to eat with his family. Everything that Obama is doing is carefully scripted and worked out before hand and it follows Cloward and Piven to the letter. In order to turn a country socialist (and at this point I would say–onward to communist)one of the first things you do is overwhelm the country with debt/destroy it financially, so, the gov’t can be the protector/provider. Everything that Obama and congress is doing is directed to that. I found a book that talks about our constitution-The 5000 Year Leap, you all need to read it just to get a feel for what our founders wanted for this country. no matter what you ideas at present, all need to look at what destruction is going on and everything that is being done is NOT to build up our country but to destroy it from within. How many of you have attended a Tea Party, have you seen any violence, racism, etc-that shows that the “press” is lying. I was at the one in DC-they had to close down several metro stops and would not let people off the metro–there was NO room, people couldn’t get out the doors and the streets outside the metro were full. As far as I knwo that hasn’t happened before-but the “opress” said that there were only 10,000-20,000 people there. Press in Europe who were there originally said 1-2 million people until someone got to them and they changed the number to under 20,000. there are so many things going wrong in this country–union thugs, preventing people from voting if you are white, our new Supreme Court judge, Kagan, changing medical and scientific info to support what she was defending, Obama and his team changing information from scientists that he selected and showing their signature as if they had written it. It was used to say the opposite of the information they gave. We have Climategate-where the scientific information was changed to meet Gore’s movie–that was manditory viewing in England but a judge over there said there were so many lies, that the kids had to be told before they watched it that it was not true. What do you think they will remember: the judge’s manditory warning or the garbage Gore fed them inb a video? Congress has decided to go ahead and accept the climate change info because it is another “crisis” not to waste, even though they all know it is bogus–so, where does that leave all of us who: obviously are educated–they don’t care, love our country–there won’t be this country soon and those of us who don’t want the Obamas, who think they are King and Queen (just look at what they do, how they travel, where they travel, how often they travel) and have the “RIGHT” to do whatever. (as does congress) There are so many other points, I have taken more than my share–got to spread the wealth, isn’t that the new thinking-no matter who earned it! PS don’t tell me I am racist-that’s crap–I wanted Condi Rice for president!

    • blv54

      lynn that’s the best post I’ve ever read, you said it all and it’s 100% truth.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Good post. And I would go for Alan Keyes or Dr. Harry Edwards also, yet just because I dont agree with Obama and his policies, because his skin is black, Im labeled a racist. In reality, those that would say that, they are the ones with a race problem. It has been my experience, that those that play the race card, are indeed racist. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson lead this group, and they are the biggest racists to ever walk the face of the earth. And thats the facts.

  • AdamSmith37

    Seems we as a nation have certainly forgotten what it takes to again be successful. First off, all the political tinkering whether from past or present admins has had more of a negative than positive effect. If we really, truly want to effect a positive outcome regarding energy, then a comprehensive all-encompassing approach is perhaps the ONLY way to succeed.

    Whether or not the world is approaching peak oil is probably a never-ending argument, although the bulk of data indicate this to be the case, if not in fact, then at least in economic reality (actually this is the case for many, if not most, natural resources). If it costs more and more for each subsequent year of exploration, drilling and production, then it matters not if there are mega barrels remaining, because the costs are going to be passed on to the consumer. Even if all energy were to become magically free (such as through a cold fusion process like the US Navy has been using for 30 years or so), it would still take another 30 years or so to transfer such technology into mainstream consumption. An estimated 60,000+ manufacturing processes would need to be revamped.

    In the meantime, if we allow existing traditional energy costs to skyrocket off the charts, then where will the funds come from to finance such a transition? Except for running the various government agencies, very little is or has been done to get people back to work. As more and more people become unemployed, underemployed, and/or unqualified or unwilling to work, a very ugly truth begins to surface — each such person is one more person who is now dependent upon the system which will begin to tax the remaining workers more and more until the system crumbles.

    Is this the change in direction that I see happening, contrary to lip service to the contrary?? Why not actually fix the economy first, before we get so far gone that it is un-fixable. Where is the collective wisdom that all Americans have in their blood? It is like the lion raised in a zoo that has forgotten how to roar. We may all of a sudden wake up one day and find that our nation is no longer our nation.

  • 45caliber

    The biggest problem I have with this now is that BP is supposed to be paying 20 billion dollars in damages. Now just how much of that money do you suppose will go to the businesses that lost out due to the oil?

    Probably just about as much as the government gave of the tobacco money settlement to those who had cancer from smoking.

    • AdamSmith37

      Yes, and then I wonder how much we still do not know about the whole situation. Even if the eventual oil damage to the area turns out to be minimal, the economic damage will be enormous.

      In our state, the bulk of the tobacco funds went into the general fund with a small amount going to advertising and increased tobacco tax promotion. Nothing was ever said about the fact that the Surgeon General’s report stated that pipe smokers lived on average 2 years longer than non-smokers. Or that it is a well known fact that nearly all known cancers are caused by radiation exposure (X-Rays), along with co-actors like smoke, exhaust, chemicals, and 10,000+ other items.

      • 45caliber

        I’ve had a question about smoking and cancer for years myself.

        Back in the 1800′s and the early 1900′s all pipe and cigarette tobacco was 100% tobacco. Yet I’ve never seen any evidence of increased cancer during that time. In fact, I’ve seen very little on cancer then at all. It wasn’t a major disease, apparently.

        But the tobacco companies began to blend tobacco with sugar beet leaves to make the tobacco go further – and reduce their costs.

        To my knowledge NO tests have ever been run on the affects of sugar beet leaves. I would love to see some results. I’ve wondered if the sugar beet leaves are the real problem rather than the tobacco.

      • 45caliber

        P.S.

        Most pipe tobacco today is still 100% tobacco. Perhaps the reason pipe smokers live 2 years longer is due to that.

        • http://none Alex

          Most people who equate the rise in lung cancer cases with the rise in tobacco use FAIL to note the concurrent rise in infernal combustion engines.

          • blv54

            I’ve always been suspicious of the big deal made about tobacco I’d love to know the real reason behind the push to stop smoking, I just don’t believe anything the government says and since they make known the fact they want 90% of us dead if it’s that deadly wouldn’t they be promoting smoking?

    • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

      Absolutely true. However, you’re one of the few people that I’ve ever heard mention it. Truth is, the only entity that profits when Big Business gets its hands slapped is the government.

    • Only in America

      The tobacco was nearly zero

      Most went to education and labeling.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      And you can bet those democrats that have their greedy little hands on this money’s disbursement, will make sure the lion’s share of it goes into the pockets of their friends. That is how they operate, no doubt about it.

  • http://none Alex

    Drivers in the US have paid much less for their gasoline than those in any other developed nation.

    Much of this is due to corporate welfare—we subsidize our oil companies to keep the prices artificially low.

    Edging out the handgun, the infernal combustion engine is the worst invention ever—-rather than invest in sensible public transport we have become enslaved to the automobile.

    Time to change. Pray for ten dollar per gallon gasoline! Get out and walk, people—you will begin to feel and LOOK much better right away!

    • Spamom838896

      Walking is great exercise. I am 50 miles from work, not practical to walk. And still the blinders are only looking at autos. Fuel sources are used for much more than just cars.

    • wilbert

      Only someone from a city would talk like that… There was a time when everyone walk or had horses and then they all seem to be dreaming about better ways of transportation.
      .
      We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster or for a social change to come and bomb us into Stone Age, where we might live like Indians in our valley, with our localism, our appropriate technology, our gardens, our homemade religion—guilt-free at last!
      Stewart Brand (writing in the Whole Earth Catalogue).

      • 45caliber

        wilber:

        One of the ‘environmental’ groups wants us to give up all technology developed after 1900. They want to bull-doze all buildings and then issue every American a horse or cow or donkey and a set of hand tools along with about 2 acres of land. You are supposed to go to that site you were issued and there build a house and make a living for yourself.

        There is supposed to be no money. You trade for things you need by making something. One of their pamplets said something along the line of, “People in each area will create a small village by placing their homes at one end of their property adjacent to others. The villages would then concentrate on one industry. For instance: One village would combine and produce cattle. A second village would butcher the cattle. A third village would tan the leather. A fourth village would make shoes from the leather. What they made would be traded so that all had meat and shoes.”

        I told the person telling me about it that I would certainly be happy to do this … as long as all their members would immediately take their 2 acres in the middle of Death Valley and would immediately go there with their one animal and hand tools. If they can show me they prospered there after a year without any outside assistance, then I’d join.

        • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

          There’s even one group that espouses emptying the midwest of people and returning it to the wildlife that roamed there 50,000 years ago, including elephants (if you can believe that).

          • Spamom838896

            Jerry, if that happens, can we come live with you??? lol:)

      • Spamom838896

        Wilbert,
        I don’t live in the city. I reside in the country, outside city limits of a town of less than 6,000 population. Due to the small size of our town, my husband and I took the opportunity that came along to move our business to a larger city. Unlike the government, we don’t like to spend money we don’t have, so have opted to drive while keeping our house and small acreage that is paid for, hence we aren’t adding to the mortgage debacle we are currently seeing. At one point we even had a small efficiency apartment within the building of our business so that two nights a week we didn’t make the long drive home. As a business owner in this climate, you do what you have to to provide for your family and your employees.

    • Chris

      You need to move back to Europe, your wish will be granted.

      • Chris

        That reply was for Alex.

    • Jack

      I ride my bike but is is a bit scary. Maybe when more ride and less drive.

    • Steve

      Alex, I think you missed your meds today, or you would realize that not everybody lives in a city with mass transit available at their front door. Some of us live more than a few miles from work. I used to ride my bicycle to work untill some liberal wench ran me off the road (she was busy putting on her makeup while driving to the local welfare office)hmmm? Might have been your sister/wife…….She was about as ignorant & politically liberal as you are. I live in the country but drive very little. I GURANTEE that my carbon footprint is smaller than yours, so quit your bitchin, and stop relying on the worthless government to do EVERYTHING for you.

      p.s. Don’t believe everything Al Gore tells you either. He’s just a snake oil salesman that couldn’t make any money off “global cooling” so he decided maybe convinceing liberal sheep like you that “global warming” was an issue would make him more money (which it did)

      • http://none Alex

        I guarantee that my carbon footprint is smaller than yours—I am too poor to make a large one. How do you know that the woman who ran you off the road was a liberal?

        • Steve

          Well Alex I doubt your carbon footprint is smaller than mine, but rather than get into a never ending pissin match why don’t we just compare electric and gasoline useage. My highest KW useage for the last year was 363 KW per month, and my lowest was 295 KW per month. I can send Bob Livingston a copy of my records, and he can verify this to you if you don’t believe me. My auto gasoline useage was approximately 74 gallons from February 2009 untill August 11, 2010. I can’t be any more exact on the gas as there is still a partial tankfull in my vehicle that I can not measure exactly. I never buy ANYTHING made of plastic (unless it is recyclable type), or buy anything “packaged” in plastic as plastics are made from oil and is a waste of that resource, and very little of it can be recycled here. I did buy ONE CD two years ago that WAS made of plastic so beat me with a stick….
          I also try not to exhale too much as your hero Al Gore is very worried about me expelling CO2 into his atmosphere…..

          • Steve

            p.s.
            The woman was definitely a liberal. She came to visit me in the hosp. for an hour, but it only took 10 min. of listening to her to determine she was a liberal. Kind of like only having to read “one” of your posts to come to the same conclusion about you ha ha ha

  • Chris

    We have plenty of oil, it is renewable, they are finding wells in Texas & Oaklahoma, that were drilled in the the early 1900′s pumped dry, & now producing oil again! We also have the Balkans shale oil, that by estimates is the largest in the world!!! Bush was a oil man. Clinton didnt care he was a bilderberg. Obama does not care & the Greenies & lefist need buried in these old oil wells that say are dry!!!! Dont forget about the costal waters & Alaska!!! We have plenty of oil. I believe that technology is a wonderful thing & that a better product will come along as our scienist work on it, but we need to start getting control of our school systems to produce the free thinkers that have gotten us this far. The stupid, politally correct populace our schools have been producing the last 5o years is pathetic. Now lets get to the bottom of todays problem, when the Bilderbergs met this June in Spain they decided that they would leave the price if oil where it has been for the last year, this fall they will rise the price back to $4.00 per gallon here in the USA, there goal is to raise it to $6.00 to $7.00 per gallon which is still cheaper than what it runs in most of Europe. Because of the slow economies in the world the oil producers are only running at 80% compacity right now, to artificialy keep the price where it is now!!! The Bilderbergs did the same thing 5 years ago, met said raise the price, the price whent up for 2 years, they met again when the worlds economy’s started to collapse, that scared them, the said lower it & the price went down!!!! So the real question is what are we gonna to do about it? My sugestion is screw all these greedy bastards from Europe. We need to pump our own oil, make our own steel, our own shoes, clothes, ect ect. Elect officals who care, to back us up & not the elites of the world. Kick the UN off of our soil. Quit this war mongering all over the world!! Bring all of men & women home & secure our borders! Revoke NAFTA, CAFTA, NWO, & dont give the IMF another penny of our tax dollars, to blackmail other coutries to think there way. They can call us isolationist all day, I dont care!!! The Swiss have minded there own bussiness for the last 200 years & everybody wants to keep their money there. WHY?????

    • http://none Alex

      Your problem, Chris, is with Capitalism.

      You want shoes and things made in this country? After the Capitalists have run every manufacturing (and scores of others) job to cheap labor countries??

      Forget about it, Chris! The Capitalists are about money—ONLY. Not about people, not about the world we live in, and certainly not about a sustainable future.

      And now we have an activist Supreme Court that wanrts those same corporations to be seen as “people”, people deserving of unfettered access to our political, and thus, our ecomomic machinations. Thank the Rethuglicans for this—they have been, by and large, the most obedient servants to the Capitalists, slightly more than the Democrats.

      As for all of your energy talk, you are very sadly mistaken. You need to pay attention to the world that you actually LIVE in, and not the artificial fake world of the Faux Noose Corpse gaspipe.

      • DaveH

        You are wrong, Alex. Government Greed and Union Greed have driven our companies to other countries where they can remain in business rather than suffer GM’s fate.
        Where do you think Government gets all their money? Does it grow on trees? I wish. It comes out of our economy. They are like magicians, pointing the finger away from themselves while they deceive the citizens.
        With all the productivity gains we have had in the last 10 years we are still struggling. Why? Because Big Government is sucking up our financial resources. The rest of us can eat cake.
        Hong Kong and Singapore have robust economies, yet they spend only 15% of GDP on Government. We spend 37% of GDP on Government. Why do we need so much more Government? Because the Government says we do! And the Liberals buy it because it’s much easier to Hope and Dream than to accept the hard work and sacrifice that is reality.

      • Chris

        Alex, if you actually read what i wrote, I believe that I have a grasp on who controls what, who the Capilalist are. I know that Fox News is owned by Robert Murdoc, a long time attendee of the yearly Bilderberg meetings, you are quite obviously, under there spell when it comes to energy. Until folks wake up & vote these idiots out of office that no longer represent us, this ship we are in is going to keep sinking. NAFTA must be revoked. Goverment jobs create DEBT!!! Manufacturing creates WEALTH!!!

  • http://goggle jimradford

    i, have read all of the thoughts that all of you have said, and should be done to try and not hurt mother earth to much any more,but thaink of all you guys and what was said,meaning the fuels we are useing alot of the things we use every day come from oil and what we can make out of it, so it would not be feasable to dump the oil all togather at once, and the cole we still use in certain locations in the world are what keeps people warm,they could change but are not able to because of the cost, and is the only thing they have to use,meaning alaska in places were there is nothing eles to use for warmth, wind power is a good thought but what would be the cost to make it posible for all the people that need it, this beain said, whats left.

  • wilbert

    If wind power is so reliable … then where are all the sail tall ship?

  • Claire

    I heard on the news that oil is in the crab larva. So does this mean all fish, lobster, shrimp,etc. will not be edible? Has anyone else heard this?

    • libertytrain

      I did hear about the crab larva – the repercussions were said to be unknown in the report I watched – I think on ABC – know nothing else about this problem, yet.

      • Claire

        libertytrain–If this is indeed true, they will “hush” it up in a hurry. I just heard it once on the news and I haven’t heard anything more. I still wonder what happened to all the huge oil plumes that were under the surface. There is no way they could have evaporated. They were miles wide and miles deep. I still say there is oil damage to the floor of the Gulf. There has to be. I won’t be eating any fish, etc. from the Gulf. I would be afraid to. Sad, sad situation.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Claire, Oh Great, Another Crisis, Bambi can hone in on!

      • Claire

        Angel Wannabe–Bambi??!!! Remember several months ago I told you I loved “Bambi.” Bambi is too nice a name! lol

  • chuck b

    it seems to me oil is a tool for our politicians, they not only live in the oil companies pocket, they use it to control the population and tax the citizens. the environment is a tool for the liberals, they keep people full of fear the sky is falling and the ignorant believe it. the schools did the job over the last fifty years of penetrating the young minds about the evil of nuclear power and some people actually fall for the battery car theory (it’s not going to happen).
    if it were possible to take the crude oil off the commodities market and break up the oil company monopoly you would see oil prices drop to unprecedented prices. we can thank the u.s. congress for a lot of our problems today, they are the ones who gave the oil companies the ok to merge. they are the ones that force us to buy oil from foreign countries and they use the environmental movement as a cover for their misdeeds.

    • Only in America

      You got that right.

      Too much corporate financing and not enough democracy

  • Loriwy

    Since all life forms on earth are carbon based (CO2) does that mean we’re pollution?
    I live in the energy state of Wyoming. Drilling is down to the bare minimum. Coal production dropped when Obama was elected. After all he said that he would bankrupt the coal industry. The oil is still there. We just don’t have the artesian wells anymore. Now the big push here is natural gas. Which is what produced artesian wells.
    We need to defund and shrink the E.P.A. that allows buerocrats to write laws instead of our elected officials. Our businesses are leaving because of regulations from our own government. They cannot produce at a profit. It’s not the wage earner that has driven up costs. It’s the expense of government regulation.Costing us our jobs and economy.
    We haven’t had a free market in so long it’s redicullous. But the progressives can say that capitolism has failed. We’re not to far from a 3rd world country of communism now. If the common sense crowd doesn’t take a stand we’re through.

  • http://gmail i41

    To the pinheaded evior nuts that think we can ride a horse or a jackass to work, it isn’t like having a car, first you must feed and water that animal at least 4 times a day and feed them at least 3 times a day, more if going over 10 miles, next spend a hour checking the gear, cleaning it and the animal, repairing worn lines or leather parts. If you use a buggy or wagon, better have plenty of heavy grease for the axles, girly boyes will have to get dirty and probably need some girls to hold up the body to take wheels off. If you greenie morons want electric boxes, just keep the electric cars in the cities. Talking paraniod behavior, Rudolph Diesel was killed misteriously when he went off of a ship going to Germany to sell the patent. Because he used peanut oil to power the engine instead of oil products, there was a rub with the Rockifellers. In the 60′s a garage mechanic invented a carberator that enabled cars to get a 100 miles to a gallon, he was found dead with a bundle of money, and no one was caught or prosecuted, the last company he met with was now Governement Motors reps. There is several pattents that are bought out for a few thousand dollars and stored away for 99 years and never used. In the 70′s you could take a big old boat sized car, pull the motor and transmisson out and using couplers to connect a electric motor to the drive line and used a series of odinary bateries. But you could not get it licenced, due to a rule of possible health danger with 8 batteries in a confined space. A single lever rotory switch was the control of battery power was simple and easy to build. But no major union controlled manufactoring system would build it as an after market option. This green crap repowering of the USA, is a pipe dream of the 60′s no minds. The edcucated dip sticks from colleges think you have to plug in a vehicle to charge the batteries, a little generator could maintain a charge, with as small amount of fuel, as 1 gallon of diesel every 4 hours to power a full sized car. Over educated morons don’t know what KISS means. Keep It Simple Stupid, Omoron has never read that in any of his Havvard books, every problem needs to be theorized for months until someone else developes a plan. When the dumb bastard and his minions spout more education for everyone, they must want everyone at the stupid eleit level of thinking!

    • Eric Bischoff

      i41 I am not quite sure what your point is, you are all over the place and the only thing you are consistent at is being RUDE.

      So think about this, when the sh#t hits the fan again and the the dollar crashes and we go into hyperinflation, the few in the country who will be all right will be the self reliant, low tech Amish who still use buggies for transportation.

      • kdub

        Eric:

        You are so completely wrong in everything you’ve said above, yet you know in your gut that Obama’s policies will result in an economic meltdown. How can you know the truth and profess otherwise. The folks that know they are wrong and scream that they are right are the most interesting betrayers of intellect of all. I now know that you know what you yell above is wrong, and that you are intellectually conflicted. You should work out the following: Obama will continue to initiate the meltdown know will happen, or Obama is a good thing. I will not see your answer, you are lost – intentionally so. (It’s all Reagan’s fault, Bush’s fault, ya, great intellect – Potus is now in charge. Deal with his perpetual decline in the face of his most extreme financial moves in history) This post proves you know the truth but profess otherwise. That makes you a bad person. I hope you assess your position, but will not hold my breath. You are intentionally intellectually dishonest. You know that you are wrong and demand that others be drawn to it. There is a word for that.

  • think about

    The permits issued in the past has been with information to call an expert who passed away in the 90′s, think it might be a problem to contact that expert. To get to the bottom of the cause should have already started and not the story of it’s not me, it is someone else’s fault routine has not produced the results needed to get the permits going, at least some of the majors (Shell for one) has stepped up and made an offering on new abilities to deal with the oil spill. As far as Jindal goes, he did not get a lot accomplished running up and down the LA coast line any more than getting Obama there, it was up to the experts in the oil business

  • Jim Clark

    Get real, John. Sttop beating a dead horse! The “greens” did nothing to cause the fiascos in the Gulf of Mexico. It should be obious to all except Dick Cheeney that “our American lifestyle” is not only negotiable, but over. Yes, the days of “Happy Motoring” are ending. Our wasteful ways are an affront to God. We could easily cut our energy use in half, while enjoying life more! True capitalism is not based on dogmatic, conservative lordships; it’s based on revolutionary progress – political (as in 1776), technical, and otherwise. Have you forgotten that the founders of the USA were revolutionaries? The true American enterprise is revolutionary capitlism and we need to return to those roots.

  • Steve

    Alex, Eric Bischoff, & Jim;
    All you liberal greenies could do a lot to cut back our countries energy useage if you weren’t all so damn hypocritical. Do you live in a house made of mud, & straw, or was it built with trees from our forests, and steel from our mines, and mills? Do you purchase electricity off the grid, or do you make your own? How many KW do YOUR mansions use per month? You’ve all got yours, you just don’t want anybody else to get theirs. You all want to shut off the oil, shut down the forrests, stop the mineing, but only for everybody else, and not for yourselves! You’ll all keep using more than your share because you can afford the taxes & high prices that your green legislation has produced, you just want the rest of us to stop. The best example of this is your hypocritical messiah Al Gore. How do you explain him?

    “An Inconvenient Truth About Al Gores Inconvenient LIE & His Hypocrisy” or…… “A Tale of Two Houses”

    House #1
    A 20 room mansion (PLUS 8 BATHROOMS) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool (and a pool house) and a separate guest house, all heated by gas. In one month this residence consumes more energy than the average American household does in a year. The average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2400 per month. In natural gas alone, this property consumes more than 20 times the national average for an American home.. This house is not situated in a Northern or Midwestern “snow belt” area. It’s in the South.
    ——————————————————————————–
    House #2
    Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national university. This house incorporates every “green” feature current home construction can provide. The house is 4,000 square feet (4 bedrooms) and is nestled on a high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat-pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground.
    The water (usually 67 degrees F) heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas and it consumes one-quarter electricity required for a conventional heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Waste water from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house. Surrounding flowers and shrubs native to the area enable the property to blend into the surrounding rural landscape.

    ~~~~~
    HOUSE #1 is outside of Nashville , Tennessee ;
    it is the abode of the “ENVIRONMENTALIST” AL GORE

    HOUSE #2 is on a ranch near Crawford , Texas ;
    it is the residence of ex President of the United States , George W. Bush.

    Can you say Hypocrisy? If you just listen to them speak and accuse, and fault the “other guys” you’d think liberals really we’re for the middle class working man. Then those pesky details come up and THE TRUTH comes out. Just one more “INCONVENIENT TRUTH” about the HYPOCRITICAL LIAR AL GORE! THESE LYING LIBERALS ARE A JOKE, BUT TO ME THE BIGGEST “JOKE” ARE THE IGNORANT FOOLS THAT KEEP VOTING THESE LYING LIBERALS INTO OFFICE!!

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp:

    • libertytrain

      Even Snopes couldn’t come up with a reason why it was W’s fault for having an energy efficient house and Gore doesn’t.

      • Steve

        You’re right. I usually don’t like to use snopes as a reference as they are liberally owned, backed, and biased, but occasionally are accurate and truthfull.

    • Eric Bischoff

      Do all conversations on this site have to start with immature name calling?

      I try to live what I talk about. I gave up red meat 40 years ago after reading a study showed that eating half as much meat would be the most important thing we could do to affect the environment. I work from home for the last 10 years. I drive an old Mercedes diesel that gets 28 mpg. If it was easier to find I would run bio diesel in it all the time. I have planted 20,000 tress on my 40 acres in Michigan. I am currently installing 2 complete solar systems on my duplex house. I have been a dedicated recycler for the last 40 years. I am always willing to spend more for a product to support fair trade, organic, sustainable and green. All of my properties and gardens have always been organic. And I am starting a website that will focus on Solutions for Heathy Sustainable Ecological Cooperative Peaceful Living. Things we will need to change and improve our lifestyle as the shit hits the fan.

      You can make fun of Al Gore all you want and there is some hypocrisy to his lifestyle, although most of you speak like you would all love to be able to afford the very same lifestyle and you support the policies that are for that ruling class, but none of that negates the truth in his message and the courage it took to bring out that message knowing the gang of thugs out there who do nothing but make fun of people trying to change the world for the better.

      Remember this quote. It is so applicable here today.

      First, it is ridiculed.
      Second, it is violently opposed.
      Finally, it is accepted as self evident.

      • Steve

        Do you mean the “courage” it took Al Gore to LIE? Are you referring to the “global cooling” or the “global warming”? It doesn’t take courage to make a ton of money by lying to people to scare them into submission & make money. If it wasn’t for his hypocrisy, dishonesty, deciet, and love of the all-mighty dollar, Al Gore might be an alright guy, but personally I admire a man who works at a “real” job, and actually “earns” his money by doing an honest days work. I don’t care if it’s digging ditches or picking up trash. An honest man doing an honest days work has more character than Al Gore and all his lying political minions will ever have.

        • Claire

          Al Gore–he sure is keeping a low profile these days. I haven’t heard any scuttlebut concerning him for a while. I would think he’d go into hiding and never come back out.

          • Steve

            Al’s been hiding in one of his 8 bathrooms in his 20 room mansion counting his money. He expects to make a LOT more when cap & trade passes, as he will be selling carbon credits and making a tidy profit raping the American taxpayers.

          • Claire

            Steve– It is mindboggling to me that these shysters amass a fortune off the taxpayer however and whenever they can and still run around loose. I am from the old school–a couple of the best assets a person can have is their honesty and reputation. There will be a day of reckoning, and hopefully they will not come out unscathed, as rightly so.

          • Steve

            I’m with you Claire. I’m just amazed at how these weasels keep getting re-elected. I know a lot of people keep voting them in because they bring a lot of money into their districts, but at what cost? Chris Dodd, Bawney Fwank, Gore, Pelosi, Reid, Henry Waxman, Ted “I never met an alcoholic drink I didn’t like” Kennedy,<— I hope he's already frying in hades for killing Mary Jo Kopechne while drunk driving, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, and not to forget the 2 from my state Jeff Merkly, & Ron Wyden, ALL LIARS, CHEATS, AND THIEVES, and look at the total years they've been running this country into the ground. Can't the liberal voters see the writing on the wall? I just want senators and reps. that have as much character as my dog does. Is that too much to ask?

      • kdub

        If you are for bio-diesel, you are for starving third world nations of valuable food sources: Corn, Grain, Suger Cane. Why, Eric don’t you care for the third world? I care far too much for the third world to burn their food. I hope you wake up. Stop burning poor people’s food. Please think about the poor people. PLEASE STOP USING BIODIESEL. PLEASE CARE FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD. Stop burning food. Only a really bad person would take poor people’s food at a price higher than they could pay for it, and burn it to make themselves feel better. Think about a starving family’s dinner, every gallon you burn. DONT YOU CARE ??? STOP BURNING FOOD. PLEASE. I BEG YOU. IN THE NAME OF HUMANITY. STOP BURNING FOOD.

  • Doug

    It is always about money. all the politicians have some kind of stocks in energy specifically oil. We should not even be running oil based products in our cars. tesla had inventions put under the rug so certain government officials would prosper a long time. What happened to the steam engine? And hydro cars all discovered over 50 years ago.. Everyone commenting about this president, they all have sucked the life out of this country for greed or war. Which goes right back to energy with the power of energy they have power to control people. Everybody get a clue. They have sold this country out . Not just the last 2 years but the last 100. Name one president that was not in it for their own gain. You may think Kennedy ‘s but they were just as corrupt as the rest. Our fore Fathers are rolling in their graves. But even they warned about government getting to big and now we are here. There will be a revolution in this country but it will be a lot worse than fighting against England because here you will not know the enemy as they may be your neighbors.

  • TIME

    For some reason this nation (and the world) loves the Obama’s. I guess I’m missing something, there seems little doubt they’ll be returning in 2012. I can’t help but feel that accusations of being Muslim and the Birther movement is essentially assuring Obamas reelection.

    • Claire

      Time–You know I kind of agree with you. I have heard people talk, and a lot of them are disgusted with the way the birthers, tea parties, etc. are conducting themselves, especially with their rhetoric. Maybe there is too much hateful talk? Perhaps people are getting tired of all the shenanigans. Anyway, this is the impression I get when talking to people. Maybe all this mudslinging is backfiring.

    • Claire

      Time–This brings to mind–A person gets more with honey than they do vinegar. Reverse psychology may be the answer. You have to admit the politicians have not been conducting themselves reasonably nor with any rationality at times. I think they will shoot themselves in the foot if they don’t get a grip and talk abott the issues at hand rather than stabbing their opponent. Who knows. I still do not think November and 2012 will be a shoo-in for either party. It will end up being a mixed bag. These are just my thoughts, I may be wrong.

      • libertytrain

        Claire – this is not our familiar TIME, this is someone else using his name. He’s kind of trying to trick people. The real TIME acknowledged this wasn’t him in another exact post of this comment – Kind of like when Eyes had her named “borrowed” by an opposition member.

        • Steve

          Nice catch. I think you’re right. The first sentence sounds like Time but the rest doesn’t. They caught Eyes Wide Open stealing your name and 4 or 5 others a few months back.

        • Claire

          libertytrain–Good grief. Why on earth do people do this? I would never use someone else’s name. It did not occur to me that this was not the TIME we know. I remember someone using Eyes’ name. Talk about stupid.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – because he wanted to demonstrate how he is still very much a high school bullying prankster – that’s why. And that’s why the others sometimes do it – because they think they are being so clever, when they just look like fools.

          • Claire

            libertytrain–I remember months ago someone used my name! Now that did honk me off.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – I remember BUT, her name could have been Claire as well so in some cases it’s just a fluke.

  • charles

    I think it is time for the President to be replaced along with congress and most governors nationwide. It is time to put a stop to all the floolishness of the EPA and all the special groupes ,unions ,firefighters ,police ,all lobbists republican parties and democrat parties as we the people do not want to support any party that will not support the people first not last….We need to be free to drill for oil on land where it is easy and plentaful causing gas to stay about $1.00 per gallon and that would stimulate every person in America and stop sending it to the people that would like us to be destroyed as a nation like Obama is doing every day right before your eyes and no news media or person in office can see…..We can do better with cheep gas while we come up with a better way ,at least we do not have to suffer until then and it will not hurt the envirement for years if need be. That is a fast way to balance the budget with oil profits…..

  • Claire

    BTW–I heard GM posted a 1.33 billion dollar profit. Did anyone else hear this?

    • Steve

      LOL.. 1.33 billion of taxpayers bail out money. Somebody gave a good explanation about this a while back. I think it was Dave H. or Jeff H. explained how GM just “moved” the money around so they could declare a profit. Ford Motor Co. is the only one who didn’t take any government bail out. Ford also showed a profit, but they made theirs the hard way. ;-)

      • Angel Wannabe

        Steve__WOW,GM moved money around to make it appear they made a profit,HUH?___ Book Cookin’ at its finest!

        • Steve

          Yep… It’s like they think we’re all going to forget it was our tax money

          • Claire

            Steve–Okay. Seems like GM paid the money back?

          • Steve

            Claire,
            Paid it back? Not that I know of. I haven’t heard either way. These bailouts kind of remind me of Clinton robbing the social security trust fund and using it to balance the budget but NEVER paid it back, and then bragged about how good he was at managing/balancing the budget. That’s like robbing your neighbors house because you need new furniture and a big screen tv, and then claiming you bought all the stuff yourself because you make lots of money, are good at your job and a really good money manager ;-)

            Angel,
            I didn’t mean to infer that GM cooked the books in an “illegal” way. I’m sure they didn’t. It was more of a smoke and mirrors sort of thing, all perfectly legal, but done to appease the masses & make it “look” like the bailouts were working. I’m sure it pleased the current potus and congress also.

          • Claire

            Steve–It just seems like I read awhile back that GM did pay the money back. I need to check this out. I thought you knew that is why I posed my reply to you as a question.

          • Claire

            Steve– Clinton? Yes, he robbed SS and so did a lot of others and never paid it back. But isn’t that what government is all about? The motto for our government should be: “What’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is mine.”

          • Steve

            Claire;
            Re. Gm payback. If they have it’s been very recently because when it was on the news about the payback “the first time”, it was a sham. That’s the time that Dave H, or Jeff H. was referring to that GM had just “moved the money around” and made it appear as a “payback” or a “profit & payback etc” I think that happend about a month ago. If you’ve heard something about them paying it back more recently, then maybe they have. If you see Dave H, or Jeff H on here ask them to tell you how & what GM did. I’m about 80% sure it was Dave H. but it was a month ago so….Heck with my memory it could have been Obama H. ha ha ha
            To clarify my post from the other day: I have no ax to grind with GM. I like em. I’ve probably owned 15 Chevys, and only 1 Ford so I hope GM DOES SUCCEED and are able to pay it back and survive. I just wanted to clarify that cuz my post from the other day sounded like I was a Ford champion lol :-)

  • hundabuxt

    Energy self sufficiency is a matter of national security. We’re 1/6th of the worlds population and consume around 25% of the energy produced, oil in particular. We can be energy independent but tree huggers, liberals and those who benifit from our dependance on forign sources of oil, contribute to our decline as a world power. Oil energy is here to stay for many years yet. Everything on the grocers shelves comes there via diesel truck as does virtually everything else in other stores. Our society is envied by the rest of the world because, among other things, the standard of living we enjoy, much of which is due to energy. Even the more ardent environmentalist has a negative impact on the environment no matter how much he or she tries to mitigate it. You fart methane and exhale carbon dioxide.
    I would march into the hubs of hell for a president who stated we will become energy independent in three years by exploiting all souces of energy including oil and gas in all but the most sensitive areas. Moreover the oil companies will be held accountable for and actions that would cause unnecessary destruction as well as have the responsibility to restore the environment to its origional condition to the degree possible and an account independent of their corporation would be set up for that purpose. Given enough time we’ll develop nucular fusion, which will provide a virtually inexhaustable supply of energy. Our energy independence will bridge the gap and put Americans to work rather enrich our enemies.

  • poogymom

    From Google News

    Representative Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) took Afghan Commander, General David Petraeus, to task for what she characterized as â willful disregard of the environmental impact of our war effort. There is no policy, no plan to minimize carbon emissions in our military activities, Giffords charged. Bombs are dropped and bullets are fired without considering the environmental impact. Giffords insisted that she was not demanding an immediate halt to current military operations in the Middle East, just saying that battle plans should include an environmental impact assessment as a regular part of the process before attacks are launched. She also suggested that the Army put more emphasis on less environmentally damaging methods, like stabbing or clubbing enemy forces in order to minimize the carbon output.

    • Steve

      Well..I say lets suit her up, send her to the front lines, and see how that “stabbing” and “clubbing” works out for her.
      Gawd some people just haven’t got a clue.. I hope ol’ Gabrielle isn’t counting on any votes from military personell in her re-election bid…..

  • jopa

    Claire; I really do’nt know what Steve’s motive is for outright lying to you about GM.However they did post a $1,3 bilion dollar profit in the last quarter.There was no juggling of money or blowing smoke other than what was blown at you.To find out on your own just google” GM profits”and it will come up for you to see with your own eyes.Do’nt take our word for it, the research is easy to do.

  • Cindy

    Jokepa,
    if you choose to believe that, then you’re just too far gone. Do you also still believe the earth is flat?

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