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Pimpin’ With Bob

February 2, 2013 by  

Hands off the President, Hillary. An inconvenient child. And meeting girls with Senator Menendez. All this — plus — cold crimes with Christie Hefner. Presented in 1080 hi-def; FOR FREE! It’s The Great Eight, from the Personal Liberty Digest™!
 

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Kurt Sinks

    This is the best part of this web site. Don’t democrats provide enough material to do this more often?

    • onerealman

      i look forward to saturdays now. all week i read the articles and some of the argueing below. this is the krem de la krem to the week.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        SOMETIMES the life can strike SOME of us (NOT ALL) by SOME kind of the COINCIDEN-CE during our lifetime on this planet.

        IT JUST HAPPENED to happen.

        And I firmly believe that SOME visitors of this site (Robert Smith, Nut Case/No Clue, Mark, Jeff, Flashy, Karolyn and SOME others) absolutely COINCIDENTLY coming here and COINCIDENTLY posting their libtardic/progressive nonsensical talking points and mantras.
        But not all of you might notice that there is one individual whose ENTIRE LIFE is full of “WHOLESOME” COINCIDENCES.

        Yes, you are on the correct guessing. In China he is called Monkey man; the Egyptian call him a “Jerk”. Here he is known as the Kenyan jungle bunny aka Barry O’Liar aka Barry the Deceiver aka Barrack 0’Chameleon aka the Irish White-Negro Muslim-Communist aka the Thug-in-Chief O’Homobama (the names are collected from the different websites)

        (Karolyn, please do not scream “RACISM”. And when you will bring your complain/ snitchery to Mr. Livingstone, please be respectful. Do not start your address like “Hey, Bob”. Be cordial and not tactless. May be then Mr. Livingston will pay attention to you and censor me.)

        (P.S. Mr. Livingston, I am sorry that I am dragging you into the female ‘feud’. But Karolyn’s childishly stupid attitude is irritating me, because it totally denigrating my gender. Sorry again.)

        And now back to the subject: The COINCIDENCES.

        IT JUST HAPPENED to happen: The TRUE FACTS and EVIDENCES of the serial LIAR and serial CRIMINAL’s “COINCIDENCES”

        “Obama JUST HAPPENED to know 60s far-left radical revolutionary William AYERS, whose father JUST HAPPENED to be Thomas Ayers, who JUST HAPPENED to be a close friend of Obama’s communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis, who JUST HAPPENED to work at the communist-sympathizing Chicago Defender with Vernon Jarrett, who JUST HAPPENED to later become the father-in-law of Iranian-born leftist Valerie Jarrett, who Obama JUST HAPPENED to choose as his closest White House advisor, and who JUST HAPPENED to have been CEO of Habitat Company, which JUST HAPPENED to manage public housing in Chicago, which JUST HAPPENED to get millions of dollars from the Illinois state legislature, and which JUST HAPPENED not to properly maintain the housing—which eventually JUST HAPPENED to require demolition.”
        “…Louis Farrakhan, who JUST HAPPENS to live very close to Obama’s Chicago mansion, which also JUST HAPPENS to be located very close to the residence of William AYERS and Bernardine Dohrn, who JUST HAPPEN to have been occasional baby-sitters for Malia and Natasha Obama…”

        “…Obama JUST HAPPENED to receive an impossible-to-believe $125,000 advance to write a book about race relations, which he JUST HAPPENED to fail to write while using the cash to vacation in Bali with his wife Michelle, and despite his record of non-writing he JUST HAPPENED to receive a second advance, for $40,000, from another publisher, and he eventually completed a manuscript called Dreams From My Father, which JUST HAPPENED to strongly reflect the writing style of William AYERS, who JUST HAPPENED to trample on an American flag for the cover photograph of the popular Chicago magazine, which Obama JUST HAPPENED never to see even though it appeared on newsstands throughout the city … William AYERS JUST HAPPENED to serve on the board of the Woods Fund, along with Obama.”

        “Obama was hired by the law firm Miner, Banhill and Galland, which JUST HAPPENED to specialize in negotiating state government contracts to develop low-income housing, and which JUST HAPPENED to deal with now-imprisoned Tony Rezko and his firm Rezar, and with slumlord Valerie Jarrett, and the law firm’s Judson Miner JUST HAPPENED to have been a classmate of Bernardine Dohrn, wife of William AYERS.”

        To be continued. Stay tuned.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        IT JUST HAPPENED to happen.

        “…Obama moved to Chicago to work for the Industrial Areas Foundation, an organization that JUST HAPPENED to have been founded by Marxist and radical agitator Saul “the Red” Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals, who JUST HAPPENED to be the topic of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s thesis at Wellesley College … Obama’s $25,000 salary at IAF JUST HAPPENED to be funded by a grant from the Woods Fund … and William Ayers JUST HAPPENED to serve on the board of the Woods Fund, along with Obama.”

        Bernardine Dohrn JUST HAPPENED to be married to William AYERS, with whom she JUST HAPPENED to have hidden from the FBI at a San Francisco marina, along with Donald Warden, who JUST HAPPENED to change his name to Khalid al-Mansour, and Warden/al-Mansour JUST HAPPENED to be a mentor of Black Panther Party founders Huey Newton and Bobby Seale and a close associate of Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, and al-Mansour JUST HAPPENED to be financial adviser to a Saudi Prince, who JUST HAPPENED to donate cash to Harvard, for which Obama JUST HAPPENED to get a critical letter of recommendation from Percy Sutton, who JUST HAPPENED to have been the attorney for Malcolm X, who JUST HAPPENED to know Kenyan politician Tom Mboya, who JUST HAPPENED to be a close friend of Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., who JUST HAPPENED to meet Malcolm X when he traveled to Kenya.

        I just would like to remind you what the Kenyan jungle bunny said about Ayers in the Democratic primary debate April, 2008:

        “George [Stephanopoulos] … THIS IS A GUY WHO LIVES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, who’s a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
        And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I WAS 8 YEARS OLD, SOMEHOW REFLECTS ON ME AND MY VALUES DOESN’T MAKE MUCH SENSE, George.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGBYweUSbFY

        “Valerie Jarrett also JUST HAPPENED to work for the city of Chicago, and JUST HAPPENED to hire Michelle LaVaughan Robinson (later Obama), who JUST HAPPENED to have worked at the Sidley Austin law firm, where former fugitive from the FBI Bernardine Dohrn also JUST HAPPENED to work, and where Barack Obama just happened to get a summer job.”

        “Obama joined Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC), whose pastor was Reverend Jeremiah Wright, a fiery orator who JUST HAPPENED to preach Marxism and Black Liberation Theology and who delivered anti-white, anti-Jew, and anti-American sermons, which Obama JUST HAPPENED never to hear because he JUST HAPPENED to miss church only on the days when Wright was at his “most enthusiastic” … and JUST HAPPENED never to notice that the church gave the vile anti-Semitic Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan a lifetime achievement award.”

        “In 1996 Obama ran for the Illinois State Senate and joined the “New Party,” which JUST HAPPENED to promote Marxism…”

        To be continued. Stay tuned.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        IT JUST HAPPENED to happen.

        “In late 1999 Obama purportedly engaged in homosexual activities and cocaine-snorting in the back of a limousine with a man named Larry Sinclair, who claims he was contacted in late 2007 by Donald Young, who JUST HAPPENED to be the gay choir director of Obama’s Chicago church and who shared information with Sinclair about Obama, and Young JUST HAPPENED to be murdered on December 23, 2007, just weeks after Larry Bland, another gay member of the church, JUST HAPPENED to be murdered, and both murders JUST HAPPENED to have never been solved. In 2008 Sinclair held a press conference to discuss his claims, and JUST HAPPENED to be arrested immediately after the event, based on a warrant issued by Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden, who JUST HAPPENS to be the son of Joe Biden.”

        “During the 2008 campaign Obama’s passport records just happened to have been illegally searched by an employee of a firm headed by John O. Brennan, and Lt. Quarles Harris, Jr., who was cooperating with federal investigators in connection with the incident, JUST HAPPENED to be found with a bullet in his head, and the murder JUST HAPPENED never to be solved, and Obama later JUST HAPPENED to make Brennan his terrorism and intelligence advisor.”

        “Obama JUST HAPPENED to visit Kenya in 2006 to support his cousin, Raila Odinga, a Muslim socialist candidate for president, who JUST HAPPENED to have ties to both al-Qaeda and Libya’s Muammar Qaddafi, and who JUST HAPPENED to have been educated in communist East Germany, and who JUST HAPPENED to name his son Fidel, and who JUST HAPPENED to plan on establishing Shari’ah Muslim law in Kenya, and whose activities prompted the Kenyan government to lodge an official protest of Obama’s passport abuse and misconduct, and Obama’s actions JUST HAPPENED to have been denounced by the U.S. State Department as being in direct opposition to U.S. National Security, and after Odinga, for whom Obama JUST HAPPENED to have raised $950,000, lost the election, his Muslim followers JUST HAPPENED to burn Christian women and children alive in a church where they had sought refuge.”

        “In 2006 Obama pushed for a $1 million earmark for the University of Chicago, and his wife Michelle JUST HAPPENED to be promoted to Vice-President of Community and External Affairs for the hospitals with a salary increase from $121,900 to $316,962 (increase 260%), and she JUST HAPPENED to receive public relations help from Obama’s political strategist David Axelrod, whose mother just happened to write for a communist newspaper.”

        P.S. Her salary increased 260%, and just during her husband’s 2008 presidential campaign “for the first time in her adult life” it JUST HAPPENED that she felt “proud for her country”

        The full 6 Microsoft Word very tide pages long article with much, much more “JUST HAPPENED” aka “COINCIDENCES” “CAN IT ALL BE COINCIDENCE?” by Don Fredrick on:
        http://insightonfreedom.blogspot.com/2012/10/can-it-all-be-coincidence-don-fredrick.html

        But If you COINCIDENTLY lost your glasses or just lazy to read you can listen it on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxB0FlYayGA&list=PLT_-h-k1p7sPjWRPSs33jbppBJfuM4Z8J&index=31
        Kevin Lehmann will read it for you and support article with pictures to refresh your memory.

        P.S. I counted 150 “JUST HAPPEN”. Check by yourselves.

        “For NOTHING is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.” (Luke 8:17)

        “Great is TRUTH, and mighty above all things.” (2Ezdra 4:41)

        • Jeff

          It’s too bad no one outside this little outpost in Right Wing Crazyland is aware of your sleuthing. You have really dug up some fine loony accusations, half-truths, and paranoid associations. I really feel for you. Obama’s approval is at 60% and yours is about .006%, but your AR-15 should even the score!

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            I believe that it is .0006% except for Kate + 8.

          • Jeff

            I still remember Old Fritz Hollings speaking out against NAFTA in his inimitable drawl talking about Clinton’s 50% approval rating: “Hell, if he gets to 60%, he can start datin’ again!”

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            Grits and Fritz, those were the days!

      • Warrior

        Oh heavens Alondra, if you keep this up, the sheeple may finally discovered the oblama math is really krugman math. MOST people will admit to a FRAUD when they see it……MOST!

      • Kate8

        Alondra – Goodness gracious, lady! You did a magnificient job of putting together a lot of scattered information into a cohesive summation of facts…

        I applaud you for this. Bravo!

        I can’t wait to read the rest. And I can’t wait to read the liberals’ responses (if they can think of anything to say…).

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Warrior and Kate, I would like to take credit for a “magnificent job”, but the credit and praise goes to Don Fredrick. I just copied and pasted SOME “JUST HAPPENED” from his full 6 Microsoft Word very tide pages long article “CAN IT ALL BE COINCIDENCE?” with much, much more O’Liar’s “JUST HAPPENED” a.k.a. “COINCIDENCES”. I counted 150 “JUST HAPPEN”. You can check it by yourselves.
        I mentioned this in my Third Part, which is awaiting moderation because I included TWO links.

      • Karolyn

        Alondra – You certainly don’t need me to “denigrate” our gender; you do a fine job on y

      • Kate8

        Karolyn and the other Lefty loons… Only in Liberal Land is someone ridiculed for speaking the truth.

        You guys don’t give a rat’s behind about facts, or about who has usurped control over this country or why…

        You are all pathetic. Every slimy, treasonous (or monumentally stupid) one of you.

        The evidence is all there. Has been for a long time. You either refuse to see it, or you just don’t care. Either way, shame, shame on you.

        Unless you guys wise up and help the sane people of this country throw all of the thugs out (or at least get out of the way), what comes next is on all of your heads.

      • Kate8

        Here is a great video for everyone to watch (if you dare).

        Where do you fit in?

        Slavery and the Eight Veils…

        http://vimeo.com/39349512

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        The despaired Left-wing radical Jeff says: “It’s too bad no one outside this little outpost in Right Wing Crazyland is aware of your sleuthing”.

        Jeff, How do you now that “no one outside this little outpost in Right Wing Crazyland is aware of [MY] sleuthing”

        Jeff, it JUST HAPPENED that 104,350 people listened Kevin Lehmann reading the article on YouTube

        It’s also JUST HAPPENED that the Don Fredrick’s article was and is reading on his Website http://www.colony14.net/index.html

        It also JUST HAPPENED that article is posted on the numerous other Websites.

        Jeff, I also HOPE that it will JUST HAPPENED that Kate, Warrior and other fellow Americans will pass the links for the article to ALL their friends on their e-mail contacts list.
        So, do not worry Jeff. Stay calm.

        Jeff, you wrote: “You have really dug up SOME FINE LOONY ACCUSATIONS, half-truths, and paranoid associations.”

        What a typical LIBTARDIC incoherently disjointed and contradictory statement!
        FINE and LOONY are Antonyms, which means the words of opposite meaning.

        First of all there is NONE accusation. There are JUST HAPPENED to be TRUTHFUL FACTS and EVIDENCES from the Jerk a.k.a. Monkey man a.k.a. the Kenyan jungle bunny a.k.a. Barry O’Liar a.k.a. Barry the Deceiver a.k.a. Barrack 0’Chameleon aka the Irish White-Negro Muslim-Communist aka the Thug-in-Chief O’Homobama life.

        Secondly, please prove the half-lies.

        Thirdly, I did NOT choose the “PARANOID” associations for your fraudulent puppet. Nor Don Fredrick did. The mentally PERVERT and sexually DEPRAVED serial CRIMINAL did.

        Jeff, you wrote: “Obama’s approval is at 60% and yours is about .006%”

        Jeff, it’s NOT surprise that Libtards distort the FACTS.
        The truth JUST HAPPENED to be that today’s figures of the most reliable Rasmussen poll are: 31% who Strongly Approve of the way O’Homobama is performing as “president” and 34% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -3.

        But there is another interesting FACT: JUST HAPPENED to be that 33% of the voters are Republicans, while 38% are DEMONcraps.

        Jeff, you evaluated my approval .006%. I JUST HAPPENED to be very curious (like monkey George), what poll it was?

        Jeff, you wrote: “I really feel for you”
        Dear Jeff, I am so excited to find out WHAT exactly you feel for me.

        And lastly, Jeff, pleeeeease, do NOT assault MY AR-15. It’s heart-warming for me. I am JUST HAPPENED constantly thinking about my priceless dear AR-15. Please, Do not be jealous.

        BTW, did NOT you heard the FACT that JUST HAPPENED ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE.

        Dear Liberal Jeff, sorry for the long answer, but it JUST HAPPENED that I ought to address each your point.

        I JUST HAPPENED to hope that you are satisfied with my reply.

        And I JUST HAPPENED to be delighted by your so insightful remarks.

        Thank you very much for your Liberal Love and Tolerance.

        I look forward for our open, honest and sincere discussions.

        Very, very, very truly yours,

        Right-winger Alondra, Un-Apologetic Christian Bigot, the Tea Party Lover (in any sense), definite Homophobe & Islamophobe, the PC snubber and the Hater of the VOLUNTARY Stupidity

        P.S. “Honesty is the best policy” – George Washington

        • Jeff

          I maintain that your ideas are the fringiest of the fringe, agreed with by fellow paranoiacs and right wing nutjobs only. Hug that gun real close and realize it’s far more likely to be the instrument of your death than it is to be your salvation from tyranny.

          • Bob666

            Until the medication kicks in,

          • macgyver1948

            Hay Jeff, you “despaired Left-wing radical” you… I guess she told you. LOL. These are just some more right wing misconceptions of Lefties because that is what they are told to believe of us. More funny stuff so it isn’t worth caring about when we are supposed to have a right to our own beliefs and feelings although it is not so according to the Right if we disagree with them. So, you fellow “despaired Left-wing radical” you, just smile at it and thank them for their generalized denial of our rights when we do not agree with them… Liberty equally for all, huh?

          • Jeff

            Did you see what Ridge Rat had to say? Think he’s ready for solitary? Anybody that crazy could be dangerous even on the computer. If looks could kill!

          • macgyver1948

            Jeff… I notriced…. :-)

      • Karolyn

        Kate – Since Alondra referred to me by name, I was compelled to respond – not to any “facts” she had written but to her methods – using racial slurs and using her extreme anger and hatred to get her point across.

      • Vicki

        Kate8 says:
        “Here is a great video for everyone to watch (if you dare).

        Where do you fit in? ”

        First Principle:
        Your Creator gifted you with Life and Free Will.
        How you use those gifts, and how you honor them in others
        is how you SHALL be judged.

        Where might you think I fit in?

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – Since Alondra is among many millions of people in America who loathe the usurper in chief, even strongly loathe him because of his disdain for our nation…, and are joined by many, many untold numbers around the world who are watching him take down America piece by piece… I maintain that her deriding remarks are directed toward the PERSON of BHO and not his race. That fact that he is of a race (like all of us are) just makes up the whole package.

        You people think we should all respect him BECAUSE of his race, which is, by far, more racist than what Alondra said. If he were white, we could say anything at all about him, including a real racial slur (which is done to whites all the time with no repurcussions) and not hear a peep from the looney left gallery.

        He is a black man and we can’t stand him. We can’t stand the man who happens to be black. This does not mean we feel that way about all blacks. There are plenty of white people who fit into this category, too.

        But you know this. The racial accusations are just another aspect of your trained responses to disable the opposition. But it’s gotten old, and we don’t care anymore. It’s not working.

        But just keep it up. You will, anyway, because you don’t have any other defense.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Jeff @4:46
        Jeff, your reply JUST HAPPENED to be another libtardic nonsensical rent.

        Jeff, Of cause my ideas are agreed with right-wingers ideas, which are based on the TRUTH, the Whole TRUTH and nothing else, but the TRUTH, which is so hated and despised by Libtards.

        Why Libtards hate the TRUTH? Because in goes contrary their filthy agenda.

        “I never give them hell. I just give them the TRUTH, and they think it is hell.” — Harry S. Truman

        Jeffry, You wrote: “[the gun] more likely to be the instrument of your death than it is to be your salvation from tyranny”

        Oh, REALLY? Is it a threat? Do you want to try? COME, and it will JUST HAPPEN that your precious body will be carried away in the black bag with 30 bullets in it.

        Jeffry, good luck in your LEFT-wing nut-job.

        Truly yours,

        Right-winger Alondra, the Hater of the VOLUNTARY Stupidity

        • Jeff

          “Jeffry, You wrote: “[the gun] more likely to be the instrument of your death than it is to be your salvation from tyranny”

          Oh, REALLY? Is it a threat? Do you want to try? COME, and it will JUST HAPPEN that your precious body will be carried away in the black bag with 30 bullets in it.”

          If you read my post as a threat, you are truly a delusional paranoid. I’m speaking statistically only. Believe me, I have no personal interest in you or your gun. I’m not sure which is more idiotic.

      • Kate8

        Vicki – “Where do you think I fit in?”

        Unless you saw the video, you don’t understand the context of the question. It is about paradigms, and to which reality we are attuned. Only you can answer that question.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Miss Karolyn, please stop your constant whining and contradictions. Only you and Mark are complaining about “racial slurs”.

        Please identify the “slurs” and point at my “extreme anger and hatred”.

        Thank you.
        Alondra, the Hater of the VOLUNTARY Stupidity and Ignorance.

      • Vicki

        Kate8 says:
        “Unless you saw the video, you don’t understand the context of the question.”

        I did. It was a good video. I understand the question. Then again you have seen much of my writing so you may have a thought. Only ones who know for sure are God and me. And I am not entirely sure about me. There are all these veils in the way. :)

      • http://naver samurai

        HHHHHooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! Well said and well done Alondra and Kate 8. You 2 patriots have just destroyed every position manned by the 5th column, took no prisoners, and buried many of them where they fell. Awesome! The Samurai is proud of you both. I see that Jeffy, Bob antichrist and Mac tried to respond, but it was only futile at best. Here is some news of patriots showing the beginning of resistance to Obama bin Laden and the 5th column.

        http://www.gotthedailydose.com/2013/01/26/the-resistance-begins-new-york-gun-owners-refuse-to-register/

        Could this be the new “Shot heard around the World?” I saw Jeffy threaten someone with putting someone in a body bag with 30 holes in them? Have you registered your firearms yet Jeffy? If you want to take on a soldier and expert with firearms, just come up here to Elkhart, Indiana and I’ll hook you right up. But alas! I’ll see your from 300 – 400 meters away, but you won’t see me. Just like the 5th column to threaten someone when they have no sources, facts, or anything credible. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “A patriot must be a religious man.”

        Thomas Jefferson

        *If Jeffy tries anything Kate 8 and Alondra, just let me know and I’ll keep him away. Since he had no nads to serve and knows no what he is talking about.

      • sam1966

        Jeffy tells a lie about Obama bin Laden having a 60% approval rating. Only in your little libturd mind. I guarantee you that he don’t in Indiana. Care to cite a credible source, nothing left wing, secular, or atheist, on these numbers? What! Can’t do it? Well, I’m not surprised. Here is some true numbers about Obama bin Laden and his unconstitutional gun grabbing.

        http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/65-gun-owners-wont-give-their-firearms-new-laws-poll-shows

        Looks like Americans nation wide have started rebelling against Obama bin Laden and the 5th column. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “It is impossible to rightly rule the world without God and the Bible.”

        George Washington

        • macgyver1948

          sam1966… Wow, the delusional little man is running lose again with his BS. I guess you haven’t seen the ratings and you are, as stated, delusional about “Looks like Americans nation wide have started rebelling against Obama bin Laden”. Mostly those whop are “rebelling against him are still the ones who hated him long before he was first elected and long before his policies would be know.

          Good for you but do you really think you would be taken seriously with comments such as “Looks like Americans nation wide have started rebelling” when those who voted for him again are still with him? A more than enough majority of the voters support him still little man so where is the rebellion other than on your misguided side as it has been for Obama since over 6 years ago?

      • Karolyn

        Just the fact that Alondra uses a term like “jungle bunny” shows ignorance. I would challenge her to walk up to any black person and call them “jungle bunny.” Actually, I hadn’t heard that term in probably 30 years til she posted it. So passe! So childish!
        Even growing up ni a home with parents who used racial slurs, I never in my life have used those words. It has nothing to do with my being a liberal or whatever. It’s just plain offensive!

        • Bob666

          Yo Karolyn,
          And to do that while quoting the bible just takes offensive to a new level.

        • macgyver1948

          Karolyn… “Jingle bunny” as a label is a sign of immaturity as well as hate. It is what the hateful do when they cant not be mature. I agree and I too have not heard that kind of term again until the bigots began showing up big in political discussions in big numbers. There is so much KKK in those kinds of labels and I wonder if they have any religion what kind do they have and would their religious leaders support this behavior. I guess it is similar when people just jump to calling others who do not agree with them Communists and fascists when they are told to use those terms while not really knowing.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Karolyn, Mac, Jeff and your tail evil man Bobby, and a stupid Mac, who nothing learn from the history being a Jew.

        The Kenyan jungle bunny is veeeery proud of you. Each of you, libtards, will receive a carrot from his garden. Enjoy it. You still have time yet.

        • Bob666

          **********ATTENTION, MESSAGE FROM THE BIG GIANT SWINE!!!!!!!!******************

          “Karolyn, Mac, Jeff and your tail evil man Bobby, and a stupid Mac, who nothing learn from the history being a Jew”. She is anti semtic and Proud!

          “The Kenyan jungle bunny is veeeery proud of you. Each of you, libtards, will receive a carrot from his garden. Enjoy it. You still have time yet”. this says it all!

          ****************** you may all go back to cognitive function now********************************

        • macgyver1948

          Alondra… If you think I have learned nothing as a Jew from History then you are proving you do not know me, not that you should. The fact is I do not see comparisons to Hitler or the Romans or others but you do and I wonder if that is because you were told to think that way. European history shows so much antisemitism for the last almost 2 thousand years (more recorded on that in the last 1500 years) but should we look at those kinds of people there/then and relate them to similar (religions) here today? We can if you would like. Religious bigotry and bully-ism goes on even within the same religion but with different denominations. We saw that to a small extent in the Republican nomination debates this last time.

          History is an interest of mine so what is it I am missing as a Jew? Political depressions has also been going on and religion has less to do with it then economic control in many cases. I do see class warfare here these days but in that I see the big wealthy corporations doing their thing to keep their expenses down and that includes lowering or eliminating minimum wages as well as having fewer jobs to do their “Do more with less” thing, just so the execs are not the ones doing the more. I see the attempt to do away with Social Security and Medicare by one big political party because their owners in business want those expenses (to them) also gone. I see the execs doing all they can to keep as much money at the top so they can use what they feel to purchase politicians in order to have what they need, like fewer needed regulations. Regulations, as is payroll, are expenses that the execs want reduced so they can have less expense. See how that works? History has patterned that and I see it here to day.

          We are shifting toward Government Of the Corporate People, the real nick name of a major political party, and that party is doing what they can to achieve that for the corporations. This is why I see class warfare and reading history shows that at this stage of the pattern.

          Aren’t you glad you said I am stupid about history as a Jew? Oh, and for you to say the bigoted term “Kenyan jungle bunny” shows you have the mind of a 5 yo spoiled hateful child who is a bigot and wont realize it. Just a question. Are you claiming to be religious and of God with that little bigoted mind? Your hate is showing and you should remember that hate is the opposite of God.

        • R.F.

          Of course you have freedom of speech in the U.S. & A. but you might consider showing more respect for the President of the United States of America.

      • http://naver samurai

        I agree Karolyn the term Jungle Bunny is not a term of indearment. None of my 4 children ever used terms like that, not without thinking about a belt coming across their backsides. Next, I see that Mac and Bob antichrist have to give their unwarrented opinions. One of them mentioning the Bible, which that person is not familiar with. I’ll tell you what Mac, that may be true about what you said about Obama bin Laden, but I’ll bet your paycheck that there are a lot more now. Here is something about how Obama bin Laden is in the pockets of big business:

        http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/video-the-hypocrisy-of-obama/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “It cannot be emphsized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded assylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.”

        Patrick Henry

        • macgyver1948

          samurai… LOL, thank you for this. For a person to be an “anti” anything they first have to believe in the thing (at least acknowledge that thing exists as some believe) you claim they are anti toward. I am not against or anti Christ because I do not believe in him but I respect your right to.

          Oh, this country was indeed founded by Christians so why didn’t they include the word Jesus or Christ or Christianity in the Constitution? Even the Star Spangled Banner does not include those words either. Our money included the words “In God We Trust” because they felt we should but that doesn’t conflict with “Freedom Of Religion”, atheists have a right not to. Maybe that is because it would contradict with Freedom Of Religion if they did. They knew history and the tyranny of King George and they wanted Freedom Of Religion and I think you do not understand that concept. You are a phony and a fraud.

      • Matrix

        Alondra,

        Great work!

        It’s unfortunate that the progressives have the stage right now, but I promise you, this also will change!

        We are in the battle for America, and the idiotic, media, liberals, progressives, communist, black inbred culture thinks all is fine in their sick, demented, delusional lives!

        Soon my friends it will all come to an end!

        God bless America, and those who fight for her!!!!

        • macgyver1948

          Matrix… “We are in the battle for America, and the idiotic, media, liberals, progressives, communist, black inbred culture thinks all is fine in their sick, demented, delusional lives!”

          What Commies are you referring to? Then:

          WOW, a super bigot who shows he does not understand Americanism or Liberty. Good for you but know that people like you have been a threat to many good cultures all through history, even those against Christians in history have shown your kind of bigotry, and your kind is known here today. Hitler stole his battle for control of Germany on his way to own the world and he too was a super bigot just like you. Thank God he lost in his end.

          Let me ask you this. Are you of any religion believing in God? Do you know that Jesus was Jewish and that he was Arabic looking because he looked like the people he was born to, that being at least Mary if you do not believe he had a mortal father. I cannot believe how much Nazi like your statement is but then we have a lot of you guys here. Appreciate the Free Speech you are enjoying as you express your hate.

          I hope Alondra appreciates your support.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        P.S. Guys, feel free to shame me. I almost blushed, but it’s OK. Do not worry, I will not protest and complain to Mr.Livingston.

        Guys, I have an idea. Why would not you PETITION Mr.Livingston to deport me from the PLD. If you need help in the petition creation, just let me now. Do not hesitate. As a good Un-Apologetic Biblical Christian I am ready to help my neighbors.

        Here you have my information:

        LiberalGIST, ex-legal immigrant and currently Proud Naturalized American, Un-Apologetic Biblical Christian Bigot, the Tea Party Lover (in any sense), definite Homophobe & Islamophobe, the PC snubber and the Hater of the VOLUNTARY Stupidity & Idiocy.

        With AGAPE love truly yours,
        Alondra Velazquez

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Matrix, Sam, watch this Video:
        BREAKING NEWS! OBAMA IS ON HIS WAY OUT OF OFFICE! (FULL)
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcyGDZbZ7NI

        • R.F.

          REALITY: Obama is NOT on his way out of office. But because you want to believe that he is so much you will stick to your hopes. Keep watching the news – but don’t hold your breath!

          • macgyver1948

            R.F. … I am getting a sense from those who are saying Obama is on his way out of office that they are so sure, as if it was a sign from God, just like they were so sure Romney would win and could not lose. LOL

          • R. Fine

            I totally agree with you. It is wishful thinking in the extreme. Also many right wingers simply swallowed their own propaganda. They and Carl Rove and Rush and the folks at FOX “news” just could not believe the results because they had been deluding themselves for months about poor old Mitt. Mitt, they were convinced, would use his so-called managerial skills to save the nation but the sap could not even organize a proper election campaign.

          • macgyver1948

            R. F. … Yep, you are correct. I didn’t understand how they all could be so damn sure and then I watched them blame everything and everyone for Mitt’s loss but not their direction. I guess The Koch Brothers, Citizen’s United and Norquist didn’t shove in enough hidden and suspicious money.

      • Matrix

        Karolyn states

        “Since Alondra referred to me by name, I was compelled to respond – not to any “facts” she had written but to her methods – using racial slurs and using her extreme anger and hatred to get her point across.”

        Not to any “Facts”! You liberal “IDIOTS” are So void of truth and facts that if a truck ran you over, you would swear it was a plane!

        You are the demented creation of an evil government, and the poisons that they have been killing you with for twenty years now!

        You are so mentally and physically sick, you don’t know what day it is most of the week!

        You know something is wrong, but you still blame it all on Bush, and rightly so!

        His father was one of the creators of this insanity, but you think the obamanation will stop the insanity you feel in your head!

        Well fools, it’s a sad fact that you are on your last leg of your journey through life, and you have made sooooooo many poor choices that you only have yourself to blame!

        Not Bush, not Reagan, not your parents, professor, teacher, God and not even your obamanation, but only yourself!

        For in the end you are the only truth that matters, and nobody can be blamed for your weakness, sickness, insanity, but you!

        Good luck in your future, and remember one fact………

        God is truth and good and will save you if you fight against the demons that you embrace!

        God help your lost souls and give us the strength to fight against the evil that controls you!

      • sam1966

        The only thing I can say about this video of yours Alondra is that it is about time. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we’re free at last!

        Martin Luther King Jr.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Dear R.F., The RESPECT SHOULD BE EARNED and not granted or demanded/required because of one’s title.

        We pay RESPECT for the person’s actions and behavior and not for his title.

        I can’t respect anyone who is constantly lying; who is continuously disrespectful to “We The People”, to the American heritage and values; who constantly disdains and disregards the Law of Land – the Constitution of the USofA; who is dividing people by race and class; who is advocating infanticide and promoting sexual immorality on ALL levels of our society starting from kindergarden; who is a SERIAL CRIMINAL, whose place is in the JAIL.

        I can’t and WILL NOT respect the FRAUD, who is illegible to be a president of this unique nation.

        The TRUTH is extreme. To make it moderate is to lie.

        “Fiat justitia ruat caelum” – “Let justice be done though the heavens fall.”

        • macgyver1948

          Alondra… How do you feel about the little bush since he lied so often and he costs us a huge amount of money and more so many American lives in his immoral wars? Still is costing us money http://costofwar.com/. Did little bush deserve your respect? If so does he still?

        • R. Fine

          In my opinion you are somewhat ‘over the top’ in your condemnation of your President. His election victory was clear and impressive and his policies such as universal health care for every American – not just the rich ones – is, in my opinion, most admirable. He saved the economy, brought the troops home from Iraq and is doing so from Afghanistan, imposed rules on Wall Street so that ordinary folks won’t get ripped off by them anymore and many other policies that a majority of Americans agree with. You speak of “we the people” and the fact is that you may just have to buck up and accept what the American people declared in the last two elections.

          • Bob666

            Yo R,
            While I did not vote for President Obama and he was not my first choice in 2012, “W” handed him “crap on a platter” and given that fact, he has had some success in many of his decisions. While I am very disappointed with the current deficit, I really do not believe that John McCain would have done any better had he won the presidency in 2012.

            That being said, many of the people on this board expected Obama to ride in on a unicorn and wave a magic wand an make thirty plus years of bad fiscal decisions to go away. A leprechaun or two would have helped and if that had happened, they would still find something wrong with him.

            Some people just need an enemy to hate.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        MacGyver, you wrote: “How do you feel about the little bush since he lied so often and he costs us a huge amount of money and more so many American lives in his immoral wars?”

        Dear MacGyver, first of all Bush is NOT in office for more then 4 (FOUR!!!) years. Secondly, you are talking about the Bush’s lies and “his immoral wars”, but you are quiet about:
        (1) obama’s CONSTANT LIES;
        (2) The “IMMORAL WARS” which he is continuing with more casualties and which are “costing us money”;
        (3) That he attacked Libya without authorization of Congress;
        (4) That he kills people without the trial;
        (5) That he is betraying Israel, the only our ally in the Middle East and disrespecting her LEADER;
        (6) That he hates businesses and successful people;
        (7) That he is the most dishonest and corrupt personage in the history of the USA;
        (8) Who advocating immorality on the each level of our society;
        (9) Who is for infanticide.
        The list goes on and on and on.

        And you, MacGyver, one of two: or you are the Conscious supporter of this JORK; or you are blindly brainwashed. Neither is good.

        Wake Up MacGyver, open your mind. I love Jewish People, you know that. We had a long conversation about that. My best friend from my childhood is a Jew. She lives in New York. I have two very close friends in Israel, who are Jew. I was in Israel 14 days. I fell in love with this country and her people.

        But I despise spiteful Jews such as Barbara Boxer, Dianna Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Rahm Emanuel, Blumberg and alike.

        I am admiring Andrew Breitbart, David Horowitz, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Mark Levin (whom I am religiously listening every day).

        Unfortunately you aren’t one of them. But I hope one day you’ll become one of them.
        God Bless you.

        P.S. “The truth is great and shall prevail”
        Know the Truth and the Truth will set you free.
        The TRUTH is often not pretty, but it is better than a pretty LIE.

        • Jeff

          So you love right wingers and hate liberals. Is that supposed to be news? And some of your “facts” about Obama are hardly facts but your psychotic opinions. And if Obama had ended both the Bush wars within 30 days of taking office, then what? I’m sure you and Breitbart and Levin (I think of him as Captain Bighampton) would have approved. In a pig’s eye you would. You hate Obama because it’s who you are. You’d hate any action he might take. Had he not aided the rebels in Libya, you’d now be criticizing him for letting Kaddafi kill his own citizens. Face it, you’re a right wing loon who likes to vent her spleen. Go right ahead. Just don’t expect anyone to take you seriously.

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            You left out Anti-Semitism and animal fetishes in your description of pigsty.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… The thing is Alondra says “Wake Up MacGyver, open your mind. I love Jewish People”. Then she goes on to share her conditions for her love of Jews. If the Jew leans Left it is a safe assumption he/she does not fit in her love conditions.

            She says “But I despise spiteful Jews such as Barbara Boxer, Dianna Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Rahm Emanuel, Blumberg and alike.

            I am admiring Andrew Breitbart, David Horowitz, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Mark Levin (whom I am religiously listening every day)”. I guess she decides who is spiteful or not. That makes Alondra Right, doesn’t it?

            I wonder where Jesus would fit in her conditions.

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,

            I have to believe that if Jesus returned today, that Pigsty would be very disappointed, as the Jesus that I know probably is not pleased with someone who spews hate and rage while quoting the bible to back it up. This is the mentality that has justified holy wars and inquisitions through-out the history of mankind.

            I might have missed something along the way, but I assume that you are Jewish based on all of the anti- Semitic rants of pigsty. Living in South Florida in-between three Synagogues, most of my neighbors are Jewish and we all get along well and respect each other. As one of my neighbors (a Rabbi) says, we all go to heaven-there is just a different seating arrangement when we get there.

            It is most unfortunate that Pigsty is full of hate and rage, but as one of my Baptist neighbors says, love the sinner, not the sin. That would be a tough chore for me.

        • macgyver1948

          Alondra… Is this typical Right wing thinking? If it is before today and it is not what we want to remember because it is about us we should forget about it if negative or if it is about the Left, especially Obama, it should be altered to fit our purposes. Is that it because it really seems it is with your side? bush is an important part of history and he screwed us as others in history have so we need to remember and learn so we might be able to prevent those errors (I am being very polite to the little bush) from happening again. I was only asking the question and you Right wing-ly chose to avoid it with “first of all Bush is NOT in office for more then 4 (FOUR!!!) years”.

          Ok, this isn’t working. All you see is evil in Obama when there isn’t as you and your side claims so rational discussion will not work with you too. You say I was “quiet about…” and then you go into your 9 things. What about all the other things in the world that has happened since time began that I haven’t mentioned that you might not like? Sorry I left those pout too.

          My mind is open and that is why I see only hate in what you and your type respond with. Your liking for the Jews you mention is nice of you but you polarize according to where they sit as you do with any others in the public eye. Good for you. You guys seem to live in a world where ‘if non compliance (to our ways of thinking and feeling and believing in our ways) you get non acceptance and anger’. Do you know whose actions and attitude that resembles? It is not who you would enjoy hearing about but we fought against him in WW2..

          A ‘by the way’ PS re your PS. Truth can be a matter of acceptance in how we choose to see it. I choose to know how things really happened so I look at all sides and then see what feels true to me. I do not like how the TP explains “truth” with their editing of it to suite their agendas. Yeah, I know the Left does that to a degree too, it is politics, but at least they do not edit by altering the facts or ignore history all together. Take the entire event as it really happened (as in court – “The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth”). Your side seems to love leaving out the “whole truth” part to inspire its ranks to their negative causes. Why else would the “whole truth” be ignored if not to alter the reality? It has happened so often by the Tea Party in their reasonings and “proofs” and the GOP eats it up.

          “The TRUTH is often not pretty, but it is better than a pretty LIE”. Very cleaver…

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Jeffry, So you left-winger are in your usual rampage. Just denying ALL FACTS without any prove. You right libtard, that that aren’t “supposed” news. Those JUST HAPPENED to be the REAL TRUE UNDENIABLE AND UNDISPUTABLE FACTS.

        1. The FACT that the FACTS are UNDENIABLE AND UNDISPUTABLE irritates you and makes you franticly furious.
        2. I do NOT hate liberals. I do despise them for their dishonesty, stupidity, ignorance, laziness, mental PERVERSION, sexual DEPRAVITY, et cetera.
        3. I do NOT hate the Kenyan FRAUD. I just despise the serial LIAR and CRIMINAL for who he is: the ignorant, arrogant, lazy, stupid Luciferian charlatan and his ANGRY RACIST “first” witch
        4. Yes, I am religiously listening Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh EACH day
        5. Yes, the Kenyan Charlatan is a WAR criminal (Afghanistan, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria, etc.)

        Jeffry, Be a man and accept the TRUTH.
        Oh, sorry I forgot that faggots always have the problems with the TRUTH.

        And lastly, WHO are you to tell me what I have to expect. Pervert, you lost again, because the FACTS are on t MY side. Did not you see how many people on this and other boards are agree with me and not with you, paranoid libtard.

        BTW, your and your lackey Bobby’s attacks do not stick to my buttocks

        “Magna est veritas et praevalet” – “The truth is great and shall prevail”

        Res ipsa loquitur – Semper Fidelis to the TRUTH.

        • macgyver1948

          LOL, I can’t wait for Jeff’s response to Alondra on this one if he chooses to. LOL….

        • Jeff

          On those occasions when I’ve listened for a minute or 2 to Fatbaugh or Captain Bighampton scream “SOCIALIST” I always wonder who could be deluded enough to listen to these guys and believe their nonsense. Now I know. Thank you for your valuable addition to my education.

      • http://naver samurai

        Wrong, wrong, wrong Mac. Look at Article VII of the Constitution. Where it says, “…in the Year of our Lord…”, is a reference to Jesus. It stands for saying in the 17th day, 9th month, 1787th year after the birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. No mentioning of anything Christian in our national anthem? Ha, ha, ha, ha! It seems you have only knowledge of the 1st verse, but not the last one.

        Thus when it ever when free men shall stand
        Between their loved homes and the war’s desolation
        BLESSED with victory and peace, may the HEAVEN rescued land
        Praise the POWER that hath made and preserved us a nation
        Then conquer we must when our cause it is just
        And this be our motto: “IN GOD IS OUR TRUST!”
        Then the Star Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave
        Over the land of the free and the home of the brave

        This is the 4th vers of the Star Spangled Banner, so why don’t you know this? I guess you haven’t learned that much, have you? Neeeeed to study more before posting your comments. You say atheists have God-given rights under the Constitution, you are correct. I have not argued against their rights, but against the lies that they post on these threads about our Christian founding, the SCOTUS, and their warped beliefs about our Constitution. Are we clear? Here are some reasons they can impeach Obama bin Laden from the Constitution and Federalist Papers:

        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/shooting-straight-on-impeachment/

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Jeffy, R. Fine, and Bob 666 out.

        “What innumerable acts of injustice may be committed, and how fatally may the principles of liberty be sapped, by a succession of judges utterly independent of the people.”

        Rev. John Dickinson

        • macgyver1948

          samurai… You say “Look at Article VII of the Constitution. Where it says, “…in the Year of our Lord…”, is a reference to Jesus”. You can guess that all you want because it is your right but if you knew history as the Founders did you would know they tried to not make this country for any one religion but for all religions or if a person chooses to be atheistic that too.

          I bet some of the Founders wanted to make this a Christan country but they gave in to the better Liberty-like thinking in the long run. America would not be the land of the free and the home of the brave if any religion had the power. ”Year of our Lord…” refers to an accepted way of telling what the date is by many but not by all. Show me Jesus in the Constitution. There has to be a reason you will not be able to find it and it was deliberate. That reason is Liberty for all EQUALLY.

          This Freedom Of Religion thing given us by the Founders is a great concept when we consider how so many in history were persecuted, killed and tortured and bullied, because they weren’t of the accepted religion. And even if you choose to deny it Christians, both Catholics and Protestants, were among the many who did the persecuting. Do you really think Jesus would approve of it if it is done by “Christians”? It would happen here in America as it has throughout European history because it has. This is so much why we need “Separation of Church And State” added to the Constitution instead of just leaving it to the states as the Founders finally decided. That doesn’t seem to work.

          You said to me “You say atheists have God-given rights under the Constitution”. I didn’t say that but they have Constitutional rights. God gave them free will just as he did you.

          Then there is the forth stanza of the Star Spangled Banner, as you pointed out to me:
          “Oh! thus be it ever when free men shall stand
          Between their loved homes and the war’s desolation,
          Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven rescued land
          Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
          Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
          And this be our motto, “In God is our trust.”
          And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
          O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

          In the third line from the bottom, or in any other part of our national anthem, I do not see the words Jesus or Christ but I see God so what are you talking about? Do you ever know?

          Give it up, you just do not understand Liberty or Americanism. You try, but fail miserably, to put in what you want when it isn’t there.

          By the way, Jesus is NOT the Lord to so many in the world and that includes here in America. Shalom…

          samurai… You say “Look at Article VII of the Constitution. Where it says, “…in the Year of our Lord…”, is a reference to Jesus”. You can guess that all you want because it is your right but if you knew history as the Founders did you would know they tried to not make this country for any one religion but for all religions or if a person chooses to be atheistic that too.

          I bet some of the Founders wanted to make this a Christan country but they gave in to the better Liberty-like thinking in the long run. America would not be the land of the free and the home of the brave if any religion had the power. ”Year of our Lord…” refers to an accepted way of telling what the date is by many but not by all. Show me Jesus in the Constitution. There has to be a reason you will not be able to find it and it was deliberate. That reason is Liberty for all EQUALLY.

          This Freedom Of Religion thing given us by the Founders is a great concept when we consider how so many in history were persecuted, killed and tortured and bullied, because they weren’t of the accepted religion. And even if you choose to deny it Christians, both Catholics and Protestants, were among the many who did the persecuting. Do you really think Jesus would approve of it if it is done by “Christians”? It would happen here in America as it has throughout European history because it has. This is so much why we need “Separation of Church And State” added to the Constitution instead of just leaving it to the states as the Founders finally decided. That doesn’t seem to work.

          You said to me “You say atheists have God-given rights under the Constitution”. I didn’t say that but they have Constitutional rights. God gave them free will just as he did you.

          Then there is the forth stanza of the Star Spangled Banner, as you pointed out to me:
          “Oh! thus be it ever when free men shall stand
          Between their loved homes and the war’s desolation,
          Blest with victory and peace, may the Heaven rescued land
          Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
          Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
          And this be our motto, “In God is our trust.”
          And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
          O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

          In the third line from the bottom, or in any other part of our national anthem, I do not see the words Jesus or Christ but I see God so what are you talking about? Do you ever know?

          Give it up, you just do not understand Liberty or Americanism. You try, but fail miserably, to put in what you want when it isn’t there.

          By the way, Jesus is NOT the Lord to so many in the world and that includes here in America. Shalom…

          PS… You say “You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Jeffy, R. Fine, and Bob 666 out”. You do not know them so how can you say? You are so typical of your side in how you both decide for others and deny other’s who do not see things your ways their liberties. Why didn’t you mention me you intolerant (LOL)?

    • Tom Scott

      Lol! As if Republicans don’t do that. It was none other than GW Bush who stsrted this” great religion of peace ( or maybe he meant [expletive deleted])[expletive deleted] and bailouts of our otherwise strong and vibrant economy. Lets face it anyone who joins the” public service ” sector is infected with some debilitating virus preventing them from doing the right thing.

      • Warrior

        Your right and it is our responsibility to STOP the perpetuation of it. Today and everyday.

      • Kate8

        Tom – Most of us have already figured out that Republicans are complicit. You sure don’t see many posters here singing their praises.

        The whole R/L things is nothing but a distraction to divide us. It is primarily the Left who cling to their pseudo-ideologies, and who continue to defend those in power. Probably because they depend on them for their livelihood, selling their country down the river for personal gain.

        Sooner or later, there will be justice.

      • Vicki

        Kate8 writes:
        “The whole R/L things is nothing but a distraction to divide us.”

        Indeed. As this short ~10min video explains. (Explanation in the first 2 min)
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY

        • Jeff

          This is JBS nonsense. There is a huge difference between regulating personal behavior and regulating the marketplace. When the market consists of small businesses and individual farmers, little regulation is called for. As businesses get larger, Government must get larger or it might as well not exist. If you don’t like living under Big Government, wait until you live under Big Oil and Big Banks. They’ll appoint overseers to keep you in line – the very definition of fascism.

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            remember a movie called rollerball-James Caan?

      • Kate8

        Uh…Jeff, my boy. Don’t look now but government IS being run by Big Oil and the other Big Corporations. It is the 5 major corporations (all owned by the same Big Groups/families) which own EVERYTHING, including most governments and even YOU.

        Why do you think we keep going to war against these smaller countries? It’s because their leadership refuses to surrender to the NWO Corporations, who want ownership all of the Earth’s resources, including human resources.

        Wake up, man. You simply aren’t getting the picture. You are definitely still under Veil 1.

        • Jeff

          There is no question but that big money interests are way too powerful in this country. If you weaken government to the point it can’t regulate big business even to the paltry extent it currently does, then what will restrain big business’ worst excesses? Despite all the corporate money, we still have environmental standards and securities regulations to curb the worst offenses in the financial sector. If the Republicans controlled everything, even those minimal regulations would be gone. FDR was villified by the Right for years in part because he regulated the banks, but those regulations prevented banking crises for 55 years until the S&L Crisis in the late 80s. Republicans would like to weaken environmental standards to the point rivers would catch fire again. Governments regulate business for a reason. Eliminate the regulations and you’ll find out why they were enacted in the first place.

          • macgyver1948

            Jeff… You are so right when you say big money is greatly influencing our government officials, both elected and appointed. And it doesn’t help to hide donation contributors and amounts from the public as if the attempt was to hide which officials are being bought. Our Government is public property and that leaves out the room for that kind of cloaked secrecy.

            The main purpose of the TPGOP is to diminish taxes for the corporations and eliminate as much regulations on corporations – expenses. You say some good stuff here so I wont go deeper but the TPGOP would do just that to make this ‘The Corporate Government Of The People’. All that consider and the Good Banks and FDR references too and it is no wonder the Corporations and the TPGOP do not have any love for the Left. Now with Obama being Black there are many on the Right who have an additional reason.

            We would all who aren’t a big corporation or very wealthy become a carpenters dream – flat as a board and easy to screw – if the taxes/budgets and regulations went to the levels the Right wants.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… Ok, I watched your video – http://vimeo.com/39349512. It was interestingly put together but it proved nothing, just gave some nice points of views. Some of the views are based on realities that many of us already know but it goes to far.

          For example, something I have studied and researched for a while. That something shows the main function of a particular political party is solely in business for the benefit and protection of the Big corporations, not so much for the small corporations and very much not for the UN-wealthy. That party seems to sign conflict-of-interest pledges which will force the signers, one in particular has over 270 members of congressional signatures, almost all of that one party, to do as they are told for the benefit and the protection of the big corporations or else they and their careers are “toast”. I heard the name sake of that particular pledge say this – “if they violate the oath of the pledge they will be toast” and he has the money and the clout to destroy congress people.

          So yes, big business is in a lot of control of our government but, again, guess which party has over 270 of its congressional members as signers of that mafia like pledge. The other main party isn’t perfect but it is at least trying to work for the UN-very-wealthy and the big corporations. This is not new and the Founders warned us about the evils of corporations/banks but we do not seem to learn from their wisdoms.

          Your suggested video proves only one thing since it does not show proof. It proves anyone who can make a video can make a video and the better that person’s skills at video making the better the video will be presented. Nothing more than that. I was a math and computer science major and if there is one thing they stressed more than anything else that is “Just saying so is not proof – go get it and as much of it as you can”. That is why theories remain theories until they are proven beyond a doubt. If you are going to use this video to insult and put people down, for not seeing things your ways, then that in itself says a lot about you as a person and I am not sure you would like what it says.

          Telling people they are blind because they do not agree with the video’s message (opinionated as it is), just because you say so, or anything only said by one party or another, is an assumption of ignorance at the very least and it says more about you which also you may not like.

          Enjoy your Sunday.

      • Kate8

        mac – I told you that you would not like the video.

        It was never meant to offer “proof” of anything. There is no such thing as “proof”, anyway. All is subjective… all is perception. There is not one thing written that constitutes PROOF.

        One can only understand the video to the highest level attained so far, so if you are still behind Veils 1 & 2 you will consider the message insanity. It even tells you that. Only when you’ve broken through does it make any sense.

        Where in the world you got partisan politics from it… can only be from your own partisan mind. Politics are part of the lower paradigms, the gross illusion, and have no relevance beyond that.

        But don’t feel bad… You are where 90+ percent of the human race is. Which doesn’t bode well for our survival, btw.

        Good luck in the days to come. You will need it.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… I do not think you understood my response to you. I didn’t see so much partisan politics but I did see the producers slant on things, their opinions based on what they wanted to take from history and pass that opinion on to the viewer. And without actually proof how can we take your video as anything but opinion? It was simple enough so I understood it.

          We will all need good luck in the future with a congress made up of many who are owned by big money and obligated to BS pledges and not us.

      • Kate8

        mac – You keep speaking of “proof”. What constitutes proof of anything? How about you offer some PROOF of your assertions. You can’t. Because perception of things is always subjective.

        As for the video, it is not about proving anything, or telling anything “like it is”. Only when you reach the place of knowing will you know, and you won’t require any “proof”, because it’s internal. I did not expect you to understand any of it, so your take on it was expected.

        Even history is always written with bias. And then people come along decades, even centuries later, and put their own spin on it and people will accept it as true. Where’s the “proof”? Things are always spun according to one’s agenda.

        You keep accusing me of wanting to put Republicans in control. How many times do I have to say that I don’t trust ANY politicians. The Left is utterly corrupt, the Right is corrupt. If you really understood who is pulling the strings you’d know that both parties are managed by the same groups of foreign finanaciers who hold all of the world’s wealth.

        But then, you liberals never listen to anything anyone says. You just keep coming back with the same tired mantras.

        Besides, you work for the Zionists who comprise the foreign cabals. You are carrying water for the very corporate masters you claim to abhor. That is how deluded and misinformed you are. Because you are Jewish, I suppose, you think the Zionists care about you more than they care about we goyim. They don’t. When your usefulness is done, you will meet the same fate as everyone else, because no one trusts a turncoat. Not even criminals.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8…. Proof… Well, I cannot prove my bible is right and your bible is wrong but they so obviously contradict one another. In Politics we also tend to go with a party or entity which most likely aligns its self wih our views and beliefs. Proof is a tough thing but when it comes to statements that should be so hard to prove.

          I have seen many videos offered as proof by the TPGOP side and those videos proved to be so rewritten and edited it negated any hope of proof. I saw a Right presented pic of the Obamas absolutely proving they are Communist because they were saluting with their left hands, left hand over hearts. That had to be absolute prove because we can see that – right? But it turned out to be a not so well done Photo Shop job. Many so called proof from the Right used videos which they shortened, along with certain video techniques added, and their attempt seemed to be if you leave out enough of what was really there then you can recreate the truth and present it as fact. Along with a number of those recreated “fact” proved videos I also watched the full versions and there were very different messages between them. Even edited speeches of those on the Left were done in these way. Leave out enough words and you you can push your lie to those who do not want to find out want is different. “See, he said these words so he has to be working against America”. Yeah, “he” said those words but without the rest of the sentence what do they really mean?

          So there is a difference between real proof and the kind an entity wants to be presenting as proof. I get the impression of those who use the phony proof to be people who want to win at any cost and they do not care how much they hurt people in the process, they only wasn’t more people supporting their side. And then there is the proof we cannot arrive at such as the bible beliefs. But in science there must be steps taken to prove a thing or it stays as a theory or just unproven. Gravity has been proven and we believe it but the Theory of Evolution has ways to go. So might Global Warming have a ways to go but statistics show things have changed since the Industrial Revolution began. And in those changes and other evidence it is the wise thing to do to help clean up the air, water and ground and that takes government regulations which the corporations do not want, with the help of the TPGOP, because it just costs the corporations more then to be concerned about people’s health. So go figure.

          Oh Kate8… Please do not tell me I work for the Zionists because you haven’t got a clue. Just another of your misguided opinions and since you do not know me how could you know but to make it up to support some twisted agenda of yours? What is your intent to make this up? And as for the Zionists, how could you assume they would be like the Tea Party who want their non-very-wealthy followers only for their votes and perhaps their collective monetary support. You just lost a bunch more credibility. You haven’t got a clue what the Zionists are about since they began but some of them are a bit radical in their approach to protect Judaism. If any of them used terrorists methods, as the Taliban/Al-Querida or KKK or Hamas or Neo-Nazis do I would be against those methods.

      • Vicki

        Jeff writes:
        “As businesses get larger, Government must get larger or it might as well not exist.”

        From the DoI
        “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed”

        So in essence to protect us from force or fraud. Don’t need a big government for that. In fact the Constitution even enumerates how big and what it should do.
        Article 1.

        So much reason to exist. No reason to force us to do business (Obamacare)

      • sam1966

        Well said Kate 8 and Vicki. But alas! You can’t expect Jeffy, Bob antichrist, and Mac to truly understand. I have to give some credit to Mac for watching your video Kate and trying to understand it, but he was too worried about the slant. If he is worried about slants, then why doesn’t he get upset by how our history is being rewritten by the 5th column? He who controls the past, controls the present. He who controls the present, controls the future. Boy this is true in many classrooms across America today. But there is some good news on the school front, many schools are starting to have courses on the Bible across the nation. These are public, not private, schools. Looks like tyhe 5th column is starting to lose there also. Go to this site and read all about it.

        http://www.bibleinschools.com

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Bob antichrist and Jeffy out.

        “Duty is ours; results are God’s.”

        John Adams

    • macgyver1948

      Hi Kate8… You say “Only in Liberal Land is someone ridiculed for speaking the truth”.

      You say “You guys don’t give a rat’s behind about facts, or about who has usurped control over this country or why…”.

      Ok but in what land is it ok to tell others what they give a rat’s behind about without letting them decide for themselves what they believe or feel? In what land is it wrong to allow others their liberties if what they say or believe is not in alignment with what you in your land choose to believe? For one example of that land it would be Hitler’s Land. Have some Tea and enjoy your one-sidedness along with your denials of others liberties. OOPS, that was two examples… LOL. Covering old ground here, huh?

      Good old Bob Crystal more interested in comedy, funny or not, than in reality.

      • Kate8

        mac – As my comment was in response to remarks about Alondra’s post, I don’t see the context of your post.

        Alondra presented FACTS. These are known facts, which cannot be disputed. If you, as a liberal, are unable to draw any conclusions from these facts, then you fit into one of the above mentioned descriptions.

        People don’t see because they CAN’T see. I refer you to the video I posted above, titled “Slavery and the 8 Veils”. Every one of us fits in there somewhere.

        Most people are living in Veils 1 & 2.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… Of course I fit into one or more of the categories you mention to you, where else could I, which were my points?

          Thank you for the link to that video. I will look at it with an open mind. That is open if you agree that anyone who does not agree with you can have an open mind.

      • Kate8

        mac – If you are among those in Veils 1 & 2, you probably won’t like the video. You won’t get it.

        If you really had an open mind you’d look at the facts about Obama presented by Alondra (which have been out for all to see for a very long time) and wonder WTH is going on, instead of your knee-jerk jumping to his defense. It has been PROVEN IN COURT that the man is a fraud from top to bottom, and is criminal in every other way, as well. Yet you people defend him, cover your eyes and ears and go ‘la la la la’.

        But then, few people will bite hand that feeds them, even when that hand is attached to a demon… or a pack of demons.

        When you side with evil, you get evil in your life. That’s just how it is.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… I suppose you are deciding what is evil and what isn’t. If it does not agree with your views it has to be evil, doesn’t it? Now I have to find time to watch that video and see if it is reality based or so Right slanted. There are so many on the Right who do not think as you. They are worthy for intelligent conversation and exchange and they do not have to agree with me. See, isn’t that a more American way of being, accepting that others have a right to their views and beliefs? So much I see of your kind of Right thinking is rejecting the rights of others who do not see things your ways. So sad for Liberty.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        What macgyve1948 means is if your on the right they the left don’t have to tell you the truth or present facts, there opinions are just fine and if you disagree your a nut job as Jeff like to say, the only left wing commie name left out was eddie teddy 47 ways to be a commie other then that the real nut jobs were outed and they don’t like that, they are shadow people who dictate to those willing to follow their lie’s and distortions.

        • Jeff

          No, Benjy, that’s not true. Everyone who disagrees with me is not a nutjob. You’re a nutjob if you think Obama is a Muslim Marxist born in Kenya sent here to destroy the American economy.

        • macgyver1948

          Benjamin Fox… Well thank you for redefining my meaning for me. I thought I meant something else but I am so grateful that you too know better what other people mean. You and Kate8 (or others like her) should get together and make more Right wing babies so you will have more gifted people telling others what they really mean and how they think. Thank you for also proving my point about your “special” Right wing God-given gifts. LOL…. Does it make you feel good to take away other people rights and liberties if they do not see things your ways?

      • Kate8

        mac – In the first place, the video has nothing to do with politics, so don’t expect a political slant.

        In the second place, I don’t care at all what your opinions are, or anyone else’s. What I DO care about is people who want to FORCE the rest of us into their ideological parameters through legislation and restrictions. This includes Obama and all of the rest of the weasels, be they Left or Right.

        What I want is FREEDOM to be, to live, to function without being molested by government at every turn. I want to raise my children the way I choose, teach them the things I value, to start a business if I choose, to grow gardens of organic foods without being threatened with having to get a permit, and, of course, to have the right to defend my family by possessing any deterrent I so choose.

        What I believe in is common law… the law of ‘no harm’: no harm, no crime. I believe that everyone has the right to make their own choices as long as they do not infringe upon the rights of another, as stated in our founding documents.

        I also believe in truth, whatever that may be. And I will oppose any government which sets themselves above common law and seeks to enslave, restrict, control, confiscate, or otherwise intrude upon the sanctity of my personal boundaries.

        I have never given any indication that I, in any way, advocate otherwise, so your derogatory statements about me are false. I don’t care how you choose to believe or live your life; just don’t try to control mine.

        A lie is a lie, and if Obama is in office fraudulently, then he needs to go. I would feel exactly the same way of any person in office, regardless of political bent.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… You say you do not care what other people’s opinions are but why do you put people down for not seeing things your ways, for not agreeing with you? The video may not be as politically slanted as suggested but it is very slanted and there is not much more in it than opinion based on some history.

          Do you know that law students have to do role playing by developing a brief on both sides of the issue and they have to be convincing in both versions? People on debating teams practice their debating skills by being on both sides in practice. You do not have to be factual to be logical, just be logical. So anyone can do some research and write a thing based on his/her slant. The TP does that all the time. Truth can just get in the way to those who only want to win and for those who are also driven by hate truth is a poison.

      • Kate8

        mac – You confuse “belief” and “truth”. Whatever is “true” for any given person is no more than his belief.

        There is only One Truth, and it is The Divine. All the rest is belief. Illusion. Perception.

        You have no idea what I believe. You only go on about what you believe that I believe. And why does it even matter to you?

        Only when you recognize that what you believe is only belief, and has no bearing on what’s True, you can let go of belief (at least to a degree) and become more of an objective observer. Then you can begin to discern more of what’s true (but it won’t be anything close to what you think).

        I realize that this concept is over your head, so I will leave it at that.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… You could be right, I do tend to go by the words a person presents to us since we do not really know each other. I do this, here and on other sites, to exchange ideas and learn about other people. I do not do this to change other people’s minds nor do I get off on insulting others. I know there are some on here who would disagree with that intention of mine but I think that is so they can justify their hate for those who will not agree with them. I do not need you to agree with me or to care about what I think either.

          You say “There is only One Truth, and it is The Divine. All the rest is belief. Illusion. Perception”. Well, what is that truth to each of us when we consider there are many different religions and they see God differently, they see His “truth” differently, in how He should be loved and followed. And within the many different religions there are with many of them different denominations which do not agree with each other so whose truth is correct or reality based? We go with a religion, hopefully, that we can agree with mot than the others or what would be the point to being part of them?

          One quick example… I was at a friends house a while back and she was watching an TV Evangelist. He was saying he hopes some day Jews join Christians in Christ. He had no idea what he was hoping for considering the huge contradictions between the two religions. It CANNOT happen and there still remain a Judaism, point: since it would be a mortal sin for Jews to accept Jesus, but what is truth by your standards, whose truth? Who of either of just those two contradicting religions is of the truth? They cannot both be right, and neither might be, but they are for themselves as they each choose to believe. To each his/her own faith and the Constitution backs that up.

          So, what does it matter what we each believe as long as we each respect the rights of others in their beliefs as we would want our own respected. It is a Golden Rule thing. Goes for politics too and in this also we shouldn’t be telling each other what the others believes or we really do deny them their liberties.

      • Kate8

        mac – Religion is such a personal, subjective issue that it is not worth even bringing up. None of my points have anything to do with religion.

        All I care about is freedom, to be, to become, without hindrance from others. When people are truly free, they thrive, and have no need to control one another. It is governments who use things like religion to sow seeds of distrust among people, thus dividing them and controlling them.

        “Belief” is the cause of so much angst, so much division. Once we were allowed to live in communities of like minded people, and there was no problem because people have the right to live among those with whom they share common values. Instead, we are forced to live among “diverse” groups in order to keep us alienated from our neighbors, and keep us from banding together.

        If we are free to as do we choose, think as we choose, live as we choose… then we can respect others because we are not always trying to limit those who think otherwise out of fear. When we have to fear dominant groups gaining too much control, we become suspicious and distrusting. This benefits government because they can play us against one another.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… You brought religion in somehow when you mentioned God and His truth but I am using it to address the issue of proof.

          It might be nice if we all lived in like minded communities but in so many cases we do not. But regardless this is one huge country and all beliefs must be respectfully embraced. We fight in the same military side by side so what would we be fighting for if individual beliefs were not tolerated? We are Americans with a fantastic Constitution and it must work equally for all of us or it will not work at all.

          I agree with you when you say “If we are free to as do we choose, think as we choose, live as we choose… then we can respect others because we are not always trying to limit those who think otherwise out of fear” in theory but I want it so much to be in practice. As long as there are people here who will deny the liberties of others who do not agree with them it will not be happening. As long as some people take it upon themselves to tell others whey they are “really” thinking and believing, rewriting them so to speak, it will not happen. We have to allow all of us to be who we are with equal respect or it will not work. And you can;t tell people what they are (commie or whatever) when they are not. This is how you lose credibility.

          Our Government should not be benefiting by playing us against each other because they are supposed to be representing all of us equally but they do so it is something we the people have to change. We cannot do that individually or in small groups unless we have enough money and clout. We need to do it collectively as a huge tax and voting group but we aren’t. I see the “we have to be right because you are wrong” groups preventing this and I bet you see us in similar ways too. The Founders disagreed with each other but they saw the common needs and we have to also. We will lose America if we do not come together for the common good. And that means we cannot declare any one religion for the country and we have to work with our political differences and, just to throw it in, officially declare this an English speaking country. We also have to very much work on government reform all of us together. Again, we will lose it for ourselves if we continue to dwell on the differences and not respect them equally.

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            It really is like beating your head against a blunt object.

            You need a break and a laugh.

            http://www.johnhartstudios.com/wizardofid/2013/01/tuesday-january-22-2013.php

            got to go-the Ravins are killing the 49′s

          • macgyver1948

            bob666… Yeah I know, the head beating against the wall thing. But she is so sure of herself with out being concerned with looking into anything that doesn’t support her side. I do not get that. You gotta know all sides to be able to see where you fit.

      • Kate8

        mac – You misperceive my statement about Truth, because I do not equate God with religion. In fact, religion has little to do with God at all. God is greater than any religion, and you do not have to belong to a religion to belong to God.

        Therefore, I consider religion irrelevant to this conversation. You are the one who has gone on about religion. FYI, I have studied many religions and philosophies, and find a great deal of truth and similarities among them. However, I do not follow any of them, as the best you can get in this way is someone else’s interpretation. I prefer to go to Source and glean my own understanding. I don’t care about a person’s religion as long as they don’t use it to exert force on others.

        As far as Obama’s communist agenda… If you want proof, it’s right there in the things he has been doing. He comes from a line of communists, has been involved with communists, and is working overtime to trash our Constitutional Republic. Or, I should say, to put the final nails in its coffin. The proof, mac, is not in gestures and symbols, but in the facts, his actions, his obvious disdain for traditional America.

        If you cannot see this, then you truly are not looking.

        • macgyver1948

          Elaine8… Yes I know, God created spirituality and man created religions as either ways to celebrate their methods of relating to their gods and/or to control the people. I have always gotten that. I choose to believe how Torah says it is. You do it your ways with your ways.

          I was using religion as a point to show there are many different ways of offering proof, not to convert you. People use many such “proofs” as convincing points but they cannot prove their ways are worthy of being called proof. Same thing with politics.

          As for “Obama’s Communist ways”. Those proofs you offer are your proofs, the ones you choose to believe. Can you really prove he was not born in Hawaii and can you prove he is communistic or are you just so convinced that you will not consider his saying he is American and a total believer and supporter of the US Constitution? I can claim you are Hitler’s granddaughter and you are a total Nazi on his behalf. Can you prove you are not and can I prove you aren’t here and now? Those who have hated him long before he first took the Oval Office hated him without knowing his policies but they knew he was Black and not one to side exclusively with the Big Corporations. For them that was reason(s) plenty to hate him and to go about trying to convenience any they could get join them.

          You call him a Commie but you go by hate as your source. We on the Left do not see him as a Commie or we would not have voted for him. There is an American Communist Party. If we are commies why then, considering there were more American voters to vote for Obama than that corporate puppet Romney, wouldn’t we vote in a runner from the American Communist Party? Wouldn’t that be easier for us? You have hate as proof that O is a commie and when I look at that “proof” I see BS where you see gospel. I have listened to many on the Right, both officials and private citizens, and I also watched the officials and their heavy wealthy supporter’s actions as well as listen to their words. All to often they do not match and I also go by their histories.

          You might not like or believe some of the histories I have uncovered of those who control and support the TPGOP so I suggest you do your own research into their backgrounds if you are interested in the truth. People should know the real people at the top of the organizations they might be supporting or joining. “If you can not see this (or care to take the time) then you are not looking”. See, I can say that too. To each his/her own proof.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… Sorry for calling you Elaine8, I just noticed after it was sent. I see you two as being so very similar in ways.

      • Kate8

        mac – That’s what happens when you jump from blog to blog.

        I’m not talking about anything said about Obama other than what he has actually done:

        Nationalized healthcare (unConstitutional) and FORCES us to join and pay up… BIG.

        NDAA – What else needs to be said about that.

        Gave himself the “authority” to kill anyone he chooses with zero accountability.

        Has unleashed drones on America.

        Continues to assinate his opposition, at the rate of at least 2 or 3 per week, that we know of.

        Considers himself dictator, thinks he can issue EOs on anything he wants. (unConstitutional. EO’s only apply to those in DC who are under his employ.)

        Sent troops to war without consulting Congress.

        There is so much more, but you get the message. Not to mention thinking he can nullify the 2nd Amendment by EO, just because he says so. (Let him go ahead and try.)

        The man is drunk on his own (usurped) power. He has all of DC terrified to go against him. Those who do end up with heart attacks, bullets to the head, “accidents” or “suicides”.

        Besides which, he lies continually. There is no truth in him. Nothing good comes from liars.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… There are things Obama does I do not like, going to war is one of them but guess how I felt about the bush jr wars that were are still paying for (http://costofwar.com/) and still killing our budget. Going after terrorists wherever they are is not one of them because we are still at war with them.

          As for the rest of your Obama put downs, you are entitled to your opinion but I am not in agreement he is drunk on power.

          Although I agree there is not much good that comes from liars I do not see lying in his quiver. Not like I see it coming for another side.

          If your statement jumping from blog to blog by calling you Elaine8 is the reason for my name mistake it isn’t that. It really is that you remind me of Elaine with some of your comments especially the ones where you and she assign meanings to other peoples words..

      • sam1966

        Here is something describing Obama bin Laden as a megalomaniac:

        http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/video-the-megalomania-of-barack-obama/

        I guess what we have known about Obama bin Laden has been true for all these years. But alas! It took many sheeple 4 years to wake up. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

        Patrick Henry

        • Jeff

          Joe Arpaio and Jerome Corsi? Have you forgotten about Glenn Beck and Sean and Rush? You rightwing nutjobs are amazing. What have you got – somebody’s cousin claiming she gave Obama a BJ? Nobody believes you because you’re all nuts. Why not just have Jesus take care of it?

        • macgyver1948

          sam1966… What are we supposed to do with your so obvious right wing Hate Obama web site? Is it suppose to prove something to those who do not believe it? If you think that way then you truly are a retard. How can you combine your hate with what you call your your belief in God? They are the total opposite.

          I am not sure how you are using this Patrick Henry quote since he meant the ownership of people, something he greatly opposed. What are you talking about with this quote? How does this fit in with these discussions? He was so right about this but I do not often get your line of thinking.

          Again, what is “하나님하고 나라를 위해서!”? Can you stick to English in this country?

  • Jamie

    Thanks again Ben for explaining the truthful Chaos.,- You would think Biden would charge O’boy ,& senator Fienstien with treason and just take over the Prez Job. under the treason guild lines of the 2nd.shall not be tampered with, its his Job as Vise Prez. and Congress is to Back His move

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      Actually, Biden’s job as vice is to proof-read “pinocchios’” teleprompter. You wouldn’t want Pinocchio in front of the cameras speechless and drooling like the vilage-idiot, now would we? Besides, why risk it; let Odious finish his last term, and let him take the fall…anyone taking office after that will smell like a rose.

      • Jeff

        “You wouldn’t want Pinocchio in front of the cameras speechless and drooling like the vilage-idiot, now would we?”

        That would be dangerous as it would invite a lawsuit by you for misappropriation of your image. If Obama were down to one brain cell, he’d still have no problem debating the likes of you or any other right wing idiot on these blogs.

      • Warrior

        Jeff, please tell us that story again about your “leaders” qualifications. It’s one of my favorites.

        • Jeff

          He’s over 35, BORN IN THE U.S., and a majority voted for him. Also, he’s not a right wing nutjob or a vulture capitalist. Qualifications have never been measured by seniority in the House or Senate. What were Reagan’s qualifications other than mistaking movie events for things that really happened? And Obama had the good sense to pick as his V.P. a man with immense experience, not Caribou Barbie like McCain did. And isn’t that what the Presidency is about – judgment? Like knowing the invasion of Iraq, led by George W. Chimp, would be a disaster.

      • Warrior

        Great response. Ya know, I’m from chicago and I’ll let you in on a “little secret”, he doesn’t have any, he was a community organizer! Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! And you’re just one of his “rabble”!

      • vieteravet

        What, Obama has a brain cell? I thuoght it was a pimple on his @ss!

        • Jeff

          Col. Kurtz:

          We know all about your war injuries; the shell shock speaks for itself (“res ipsa loquitur”), so you needn’t be so graphic concerning your physical issues.

      • vieteravet

        What, Obama has a brain cell? I thought it was a pimple on his @ss!

      • JUKEBOX

        Jeff, you don’t usually bring a teleprompter to a debate, but use your own personal knowledge. Your idol is nothing more than a very good reader. You can tell when he is without his teleprompter, because he starts stuttering and stammering like he has a mouthful of fesces and can’t say S##T.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        jeff: If Obama were down to one brain cell, he’d still have no problem debating the likes of you or any other right wing idiot on these blogs.

        I’ll take that bet jeff…even you, i would think, should have no problem beating this simpleton in a debate. Btw, you might be right…this man appears to be down to one “brain-cell”…Check it out..;

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU

        • Jeff

          You’ve got him right where you want him. He must know you’re too smart for him; otherwise he wouldn’t keep ducking you. Same problem you had when Mike Tyson never responded to your challenges to fight him. It must be tough to be so universally feared.

      • Kate8

        Since Obama has the world financial corporations and their high-tech armies solidly behind him, I doubt he has anything to worry about from any of us.

        Besides, one signal from him and any of us are toast, since he claims the right to murder.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… OH WOW girl… For you to say Obama has claimed the right to murder is insane on you part. Do you really like thinking you have the God-given ability to think and feel for others as well as define their intentions for them? You have the Elaine syndrome. WOW, so I guess that syndrome is so common in your way of thinking…

          • Bob666

            YO macgyver1948,
            Incase you haven’t noticed, Kate + 8 is an expert on anything and everything known to mankind.

            She has a bunch of books, mostly on the occult and spends just a bit too much time looking at web sites that show the truth and the way (as we know that all of the stuff on the Internet is so true).

            we should all be thankful that we have Kate + 8 to show us the way.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… Yes, I know but she is by far not the only expert here on all they speak. I do not mind that as much as when they deny our liberty to think and feel and believe for ourselves, their ways of redefining what anyone says who has the audacity to not agree with their views, which views they have the right to. It is just that we do not have the right to our own views that gets me the most from their ways of telling. The hypocrisy in those who do that and claim they are for Liberty and our Constitution is huge.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Amen WTS/JAY; that is if we can last that long with satans son in the White House, is that racist since he is half black? Oh well the left won’t see the truth anyhow, they are blind to good and call it evil and evil they call good, the world is upside down and they are the fault.

      • Kate8

        Uh…mac and bob – Do you guys pay attention at all, or are you too holed up in mom’s basement with your computers? You really should come out once in a while.

        Have you not heard of NDAA? How about Obama claiming the right to kill anyone, including American citizens, without accountability, at any time?

        How about his drones for taking people out? How about all of the assassinations of his opponents which go on weekly now?

        Wow. You guys must really find me a threat, the way you’ve dogged my lately. I guess I should feel flattered. Slams by you trolls means I’m doing something right.

        • Bob666

          Kate + 8
          “Wow. You guys must really find me a threat, the way you’ve dogged my lately. I guess I should feel flattered. Slams by you trolls means I’m doing something right”.

          Let me be perfectly clear about this. There is absolutely nothing about you that I find as a threat to me or anyone else.

          After watching you show your “expertise” on Freemasonry a few nights ago, I have decided that medication needs to be your friend as we get to witness your incoherent babbling on politics, religion and any other subject known to mankind.

          For you, the “queen of trolls” to make that suggestion about anyone is comical. Other than total self -embarrassment, you are not doing anything right that I can see. But hey, even a narcissistic nut case like you gets to exercise your first amendment rights and the difference between those of us that you believe to be trollsand you is; we will protect your rights to babble like a crack crazed fool even if we don’t agree with you.

          I don’t believe for a moment that you would ever stand up for anyone that you disagree with.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… I see you have decided I am stuck in the basement and my mommy put me there. OK if you say so but it ain’t so in however you mean it.

          You say “How about all of the assassinations of his opponents which go on weekly now?”. Well, I didn’t know Romney and that flack Ryan are dead? Where do you get this crap from as you word it? How about the sweet hearts from the NRA, are they dead? Opponents of Obama are dead.

          Sadly the drones are advancements in technology. Man has been inventing better ways to kill his brother since Cain did his brother Abel in. bush jr used them and Obama is do it more so but he is fighting with the promise little bush gave to find terrorists wherever they can be found.

          Don’t flatter yourself, I do not consider you a threat. I just do not understand your logic. I can respect your opinions but you and others like you go beyond opinion and talk to Libs as if you had the market on truth controlled and you are justified in putting dis-agreers down. That’s all, no felling of threat from you.

      • Kate8

        Bob666(number of the Beast) – An entirely predictable response coming from the likes of you.

        When you can’t win with logic and truth, defame and ridicule.

        I stand by everything I’ve said. You are the one who is deluded and misinformed. But then, you just don’t know any better, so it’s completely expected.

        It’s amazing how hateful and nasty people get just because one doesn’t like Obama or agree with the looney left. When was the last time you stood up for someone who disagrees with you?

        You are a riot.

        • Bob666

          Kate _ *,
          Wow-Simply Wow.

          “Bob666(number of the Beast) – An entirely predictable response coming from the likes of you”.

          “When you can’t win with logic and truth, defame and ridicule”

          This is no logic in dealing with you. “defame and ridicule” who called me a troll? News flash-I did not vote for Obama and I would bet that in many ways, I am probably more conservative than you would ever hope to be.

          “defame and ridicule” you post occult like statements that Defame an organization that helped build and guide the development of this great country and offend tens of thousands loyal and patriotic men based on information you found on the internet and books on the occult?

          An organization that more than half of our founding fathers belonged to? an organization that separates right from wrong and guided some of the greatest scientist, artist, leaders, military men and yes clergy in the last five hundred years.

          You bring no logic or truth to the table, you’re an insecure and morally weak minded individual with the all the moral depth that can fill a single post-it –note. People like me are why you have the freedom that you enjoy today and people like me will stand up for people like you even as you abuse that freedom.

          Think real hard before you respond, very, very hard. Walking away is your best option, but I will bet money that you wi;; return with one of you bazar rants as to Why I am the one who is wrong.

      • Kate8

        Bob666 – READ MY LIPS: YOU ARE FREE TO BELIEVE WHATEVER YOU LIKE.

        I DON’T CARE.

        It is you who rant on and attack me for everything I say. It is you who cannot allow any differing opinions from your own.

        YOU need to think real hard about this. Reread all of the posts between you, me and your other paid pals, and see who is not allowing other opinions.

        Here’s another newsflash for ya (which is exactly why you are paid to be here): THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE BLOGSITE. You trolls already know that the only ones with whom you will agree is EACH OTHER.

        I know your tactics, and I know who you are. So posting in response to you is strictly an exercise in observation of Leftist behavior. And you never fail to disappoint.

        • Bob666

          Kate + 8,
          “It is you who rant on and attack me for everything I say. It is you who cannot allow any differing opinions from your own”.

          To best of my memory, we have never exchanged a post until you brought up your occult books and wako websites on Freemasonry on this board and it was only after you maligned a noble group that an exchange took place between us.

          I have sat back without response while you have posted your bizarre rants on everything to everybody and ridiculed anyone who differs with you. If you go back and review-you threw the first punch with lies about an organization that I have a life time of experience with and I just responded with the facts.

          “Here’s another newsflash for ya (which is exactly why you are paid to be here): THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE BLOGSITE. You trolls already know that the only ones with whom you will agree is EACH OTHER”.

          Other that Jana, who was asking in a very respectful tone, you are the only person involved in that discussion and you felt the need to butt in and be the world’s authority on something you obviously have very little knowledge about.

          I am not paid by anyone to do anything regarding the exercise of my first amendment rights, if there is a check for me, I am not aware of it or who the person is that is writing that check?

          “I know your tactics, and I know who you are. So posting in response to you is strictly an exercise in observation of Leftist behavior”.

          Again, what “Leftist Behavior” are you referring to? Please don’t respond as we know it will be some incoherent babble from the voices in your head and there are medications that can help you manage them.

          You have every right to post and do whatever you choose to do-that is your it is your first amendment right even if you abuse it by slandering people and groups that you know nothing about.

          I would end this post with one statement, you don’t know who I am as you have obviously not paid close enough attention to any of my post. As for you, I could really care less who you are. What is apparent is; your are obviously an very insecure person who has found an outlet to voice your bazaar opinions. As my wife stated, you just have to argue with someone and you forget what the argument is all about, you just live to argue. In those exchanges, you leave all reason and logic on the table as you goal is prevail.

          I avoid exchanges with people like you because I can’t win, not because I’m wrong, but people like you are always right and what ensues is a total waste of my time.

          “and you never fail to disappoint”

          And for that, good for you, I’m glad that you are happy. Now I’m sure that you will rant about me with half truths in insults and why you are right and I am wrong, but this is the last effort that I will expend towards you.

      • Kate8

        bob – You are just mad because I pushed your buttons about the Masons, and I wouldn’t take back what I said.

        A word of advice to you: You are too attached to your cherished beliefs. It causes you to lose you objectivity and get emotional. If you were secrure in your beliefs it wouldn’t bother you in the slightest what I, or anyone else, thinks.

        I stated what I knew from my own understanding, based on a great deal of research over many years. I have known Masons, as well (my late father-in-law) and do know that many Masons are good people. That does not change the facts of the things which go on in secret at the highest levels.

        That being said, I have no problem with you believing the way you do. You liberals cannot conceive of allowing others their own opinions without having to change them, because you are too wrapped up in ideologies and don’t possess inner conviction. When someone differs from you, you can only accuse them of attack because that is all you know how to do.

        Liberals have tried force abhorrent idologies on the rest of us since time began. There are those on the Right who do this as well, but liberals seem to have the most problem with it, and continually try to pass laws to silence and force hardship on those who choose conservative ways. Conservatives, on the other hand, just want to be left alone, and have the least legislative intrusion possible.

        You think that in order to “win and argument”, your opponent has to back down. I say, why not just accept that we all have our own views?

        I realize that logic makes you really react, as indicated by your obvious fuming at me. Go ahead… lash out. I find it immensely amusing.

        If you can’t stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen. There is too much at stake to waste time on people are derailed by their own insecurities.

        Bye bye.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        bob666, you are bordering on desperation that your savior O is not what you expected him to be. The majority of posters have no such illusions about O and our hope is not in his promises of Utopia. Snarling at the posters just shows how desperate you really are. By the way, why don’t you go snarl at your messiah.

        • Bob666

          Yo Nadzieja Batki,
          As Ronald Regan use to say; There you go again.

          I did not vote for Obama, nor am I a democrat, but he is the president and that is the reality of life. What I see are people like you whining about it, so go ahead and call people you don’t agree with names if that helps you, but at the end of the day, your guy lost-again.

          From my perspective, many on this site are the best chance the democrats could ever hope for to stay in power. People in the middle decide elections today. Most people of this board scare the hell out of people in the middle and 2008 and 2012 are the proof.

          So, Nadzieja, keep blaming all of us who you disagree with and you with your side will lose again. Or, you look at this objectively-(and that is a stretch), you might see what the problem really is-the GOP has lost touch with and alienated more than half of the American voters.

      • sam1966

        Here is something that shows Obama bin Laden may have been reelected by means of voter fraud.

        http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/zieve/121127

        See how the pretender really didn’t win the election, but stole it? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “I, George W. Bush, Governor of Texas, do hereby proclaim June 10, 2000, ‘Jesus Day’ in Texas and urge the appropriate recognition whereof.”

        Memorandum signed by Governor Bush

        *Let’s try to have a Jesus Day everyday.

        • macgyver1948

          sam1966… you can have a Jesus Day all you want as long as you do not impose it on those who do not want it. I would even stand up for your right to do so but if you push it on me we have a fight.

    • Kate8

      bob – Praise the Lord.

      • Jeff

        K8-

        One would think that but only if one were a nutjob. Biden is not.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Yep Jeffry, you’re right. Biden is scumbag full of the same idiotic DEMONcratic crap
        as you are.

        But in addition you are his and the Kenyan jungle bunny running flunkey on the shift. Robert Smith took a day off today. Good job, even it’s a nut job.
        You earned your commission. Do not forget to pay Taxes.

        P.S. I do not see you converted anybody. I would decrease your commission.

        • Jeff

          Was your post supposed to make sense? You started as a right wing nutjob and you’ve remained so. Congratulations. I’m not trying to convert anyone, but maybe if you read enough posts by people who think differently, you’ll understand why most people think you’re insane when you talk about Obama in language so common on these blogs.

      • Kate8

        jeff – You are becoming confused. I have never even mentioned Biden.

        Perhaps you need a break until you can keep things straight.

        But then, bouncing around from blog to blog, hurling nastiness at all conservatives, must become pretty tiring for you.

      • sam1966

        주 예수 이름 높이어 다 찬양하여라
        금 면류 권을 드려서 만유에 주 찬양!
        금 면류 권을 드려서 만유에 주 찬양!

        All hail the power of Jesus’ name, let angels prostrate fall.
        Bring forth the royal diedem and crown him Lord of all!
        Bring forth the royal diedem and crown him Lord of all!

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves Jeffy and Bob antichrist out.

        “It is fitting that we have a National Prayer Breakfast. It is the right thing to do, because this is a nation of prayer.”

        George W. Bush
        February 06, 2003

  • eddie47d

    “Gossip is like a nasty virus. If you learn to cover your mouth you won’t spread the germs”. Audrey Harvey, Antioch, Tn.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      eddie teddy 47 ways to be a darn commie, shadow man himself with more of his trash and lies, always looking in the mirror when he comments saying aren’t I great?

  • Steviemoto1

    Just a simple question. Is Bob not a Libertian. If so why do democraps and replocants care what he says on HIS blog? In this country they have not won any major offices to mess up with their overspending or their need to protest while endorcing(quietly) every increase in gov. size and tax hike?

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    Barack Obama is a failed President. His legacy, such as it is, will be a failed economic recovery, double-dip recession and devastated American morale.

    The president of hope and change has destroyed hope and delivered nation-ruining change. His failed policies have left America economically devastated.

    He can’t deliver on his campaign promises because he has broken or forgotten them. He can’t lead the nation out of its morass because he is not a leader.

    Business Executive John Mariotti, writing in Forbes, says it best:

    “There will be no significant recovery in the United States of America while Barack Obama is President. The evidence is overwhelming: everything Obama has tried to fuel a recovery (with his Democratic allies in Congress) has failed. Statistics claiming jobs saved by the stimulus package were mostly fiction, and cost American taxpayers about $275,000 each. Nearly 2-1/2 million fewer Americans have jobs than before the stimulus.
    Barack Obama has been President for 30 months—2-1/2 years. He spent the first year obsessed with passing Obamacare, a program that doesn’t create jobs, but might destroy a lot of them. He “bailed out” GM, but many believe that his interference didn’t save GM; it merely cost taxpayers an extra $15-20 billion, and stole from legitimate investors to buy off the UAW. His broken campaign promises are too numerous to list. At some point, his statute of limitations on blaming Bush runs out. The latest joke is that the White House is that named the location of East Coast earthquake near DC “Bush’s Fault.”

    Obama himself said, “…that after three years, if the economy wasn’t fixed he should be a one-term president.”

    While one can find many faults from George W. Bush‘s presidency, the facts show that America’s problems have deepened under Obama’s watch. He has plunged the nation deeper into debt at twice the pace of Bush, driven unemployment to record levels and left Americans out of work at record rates.

    • Warrior

      Jay – the “progressive nation” follows the likes of “We don’t have a spending problem” krugman. We can just print and print and print our way to prosperity. Well krugman, if that is true, then why do you support “tax hikes” on the rich? NO, gubmint cannot “produce” any prosperity for this country or any country. Only its citizens can by producing “the” goods.

  • Average Joe
  • fred witwer

    Pimpin with Bob , The Great 8
    I find BEN CRYSTAL to be insulting, vulgar, and very unfunny. Joking about under age sex particularly revolting. Also joking about a convicted rapist is not funny, nor are jokes about
    Bidens testicles. The “audience” laughter in the background had to be a recording because no audience would find those remarks funny. Sponsoring this kind of “humor” will cause me to unsubscribe from Personal Liberty.com. It does nothing to advance the cause
    of Liberty. Please CLEAN IT UP.

    • Average Joe

      First time on the internet…unsupervised?

      AJ

    • Dennis48e

      fred witwer if you do not like the Great 8 don’t watch it neither Mr Livingston or Ben are forcing you to watch.

      • eddie47d

        Ben has been criticized for years by several folks for his bad behavior so Fred isn’t far from the truth. Bob should have put him in moderation a long time ago. I was put in moderation myself for taking on Ben quite some time ago. I figure he gives everyone else the right to be a nut job and to make crazy comments since his are out of this world.

      • Vicki

        No one is forcing you to watch either eddie47d

      • eddie47d

        What better place than here to find out how crazy the right wing loons are Vicki.You all drop enough bombs to stink up all the bathrooms in America and then some! LOL!!!!!

      • sam1966

        Then Ed pulls up to the trough and begins to eat. Couldn’t resist. Here is something showing Hitlery blaming Bush for Benghazi. Baaaaa! Baaaaa! Baaaaa!

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/01/30/On-Fox-News-Clinton-Blames-Bush-For-Lack-of-Funds-To-Secure-Benghazi

        Looks like they aren’t going to stand up like men and take responsibility. Typical 5th columner. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “And because we have understood that our source is eternal (GOD), America has been different. We have no king but Jesus.”

        John Ashcroft
        May 1999

    • JUKEBOX

      I agree with you that Senator Menendez is revolting, as are all the Dems who support organizations like NAMBLA, etc.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Who made you listen to Ben C.?

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      Freddy, so the JOCK “about under age sex” you found “particularly revolting”, but the U.S. Senator’s SEX with the minors it’s OK with you and it’s not “particularly revolting”?

      The JOKE “about a convicted rapist” wasn’t funny for you either.
      Well, What exactly was not funny for you – because he (the rapist) is a rapist, or because he (the rapist) was convicted or because he (the rapist) organized anti-gun rally?

      You also did not like JOKE “about Biden’s testicles”.
      What exactly you not liked? Because Ben’s JOKE was about Biden, or about testicles? Or because the JOKE was about Biden’s testicles?

      So you do not like “this kind of humor”?
      Freddy, what kind of humor do you like? David Letterman’s? Jon Stewart’s? Bill Maher’s? Or maybe the Kenyan jungle bunny?

      Freddy, I think you are suffering from Melancholia – a MOOD DISORDER.
      I just feel sorry for your wife or maybe husband. Who knows.

      Seek psychological help and I wish you the best.

    • S.C.Murf

      Don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on your way out bud and when you are out try and remember that thing about free speech OK?

      • Jeff

        Grampa Smurf:

        Freedom of speech is a 2-way street. Those with whom you disagree also have the freedom to criticize the damn-fool things you say or the damn-fool things others say and you lap up like mother’s milk. You only have a free speech issue if the Government tries to restrain your ability to speak. For someone who’s been around since The Flood, you don’t know too much.

  • dan

    District of Obama /District of Criminals….meh , where’s the truth in labeling law ?

    Hey Ben, did you see where they saw on her passport renewal from Jakarta
    that SHE checked that Obama/Soetoro was no longer a citizen on the front of the form….
    if you can’t believe a guy’s mama about what he is or isn’t ….truth in labeling/a name

  • Bob666

    Poor Ben, someone lied to him and told him he was funny?

    get a day job Ben,

    • Jeff

      He actually makes Dennis Miller seem funny by comparison. But in his “mind,” it’s only because he’s a right wing loon that he’s not mentioned in the same breath as Chris Rock or Bill Maher. Keep dreaming, Ben. Keep dreaming.

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      Beast man Bobby, someone told you that you are smart? And you believed that?
      Poor man, that was a jock.

      What King Solomon said about trolls like you and alike?

      “DUNCE has no delight in understanding, but in expressing his own foolishness.”

      • Bob666

        Yo Alondra,

        “Beast man Bobby, someone told you that you are smart? And you believed that?
        Poor man, that was a jock”.

        “What King Solomon said about trolls like you and alike”?

        Somehow, I can’t follow your logic (not that any of us can), People have said a lot about me, but no one ever said I was a hunky kind of Jock.

        As for Solomon, he was a wise man, but I don’t recall anything about “dunces or trolls” in the old/new Testament or Torah.

        Say high to the rest of the pigs in swine-land as you are wallowing in the mud, since we all know that mud becomes you.

      • Kate8

        Alondra – The trolls are really grasping. The only thing they’ve got is nasty personal attacks.

        But then, they don’t really care, because it’s just making a living to them. I hear the pay is pretty good, too.

        They are no different from prostitues themselves, selling their services to the (enemy) government. You are correct that they deserve no respect from us.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… Is it really so that you do not see the initial attacks on us “trolls” when we are blatantly called Communists and fascists and any other anti-American BS? Really? If your side insists on the wrongful labeling of us on the Left then your side should expect to be retaliated against. How can people expect to be respected when they initiate the disrespect in malicious name calling and insults as many on the Right do? If this is how your side acts your side’s respect would be meaningless to us.

      • Kate8

        mac – This is a conservative blog. What do you expect. You are only here to try to promote something that we’ve all heard a million times, and have rejected.

        I suggest you do some comparisons between Progressivism and communism. Come back when you have done your homework.

        Hint: Progressivism is just the latest label put on communism to try to get people to accept it. It’s still just lipstick on a pig.

        • macgyver1948

          Kate8… Yes this site tends to lean more conservative but have you read one of its policies and hopes for the site? It is near the top of ever page…

          “Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion”.

          I would hope that all Americans would respect the beliefs and rights of others and not get so aggressively angry and hateful in many cases. That would be the American way but there is so much and it is what the Constitution is a sweetheart for, the protections of each of us from Government but not against each other. If you cannot accept differing views go live under a Taliban like government, their one sided “only our ways are right for all” seems to better suite you.

          I think you need to do “some comparisons between Progressivism and communism” as it may apply her in America. You seem to automatically link communism when there really is no link with Liberals. This is a JBS notion (any who will not agree with us has to be commie) and it fits you. How is that in any way an American way?

          Liberals are of all kinds of people, just like with Righties, and I know many, and I do not know any Communists or Fascists among Liberals. You are in a dream programmed world with that one as well as with many other of your ideas of us. Go for the continuing of your Right Wing Programming and continue to be wrong when it comes to us. Talk about the “pig”. JBS is a shading of Fascism/Nazism and guess who is an off shoot of them today, who has their legacy?

      • sam1966

        Well said Kate 8 fellow patriot. You just have to understand how the average, less intelligent 5th columner works. They are not here to help or to correct the direction this country is going, but only to destroy. Here is an article showing that Obama bin Laden has broken the law by selling sensitive military equipment to China.

        http://www.humanevents.com/2013/01/29/obama-admin-approves-sale-of-sensitive-military-technology-to-china/

        Another act of treason from the pretender. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “…the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays, and the lesbians…I point my finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.’”

        Rev. Jerry Falwell
        September 14, 2001

        • macgyver1948

          sam1966… you can have a Jesus Day all you want as long as you do not impose it on those who do not want it. I would even stand up for your right to do so but if you push it on me we have a fight.

    • S.C.Murf

      bobbie freemasons are a satanic cult made up of pure evil.

      up the hill
      airborne

      • Bob666

        YO Smurff
        Let me guess, you tried to join-got black balled and ran home crying?

        • Jeff

          Back in 1776

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            Is it a full moon, high tide or are they cutting back on medication at the looney bid? There seems to be a much higher degree of wack-jobs posting this past week.

  • boyscout

    Biting, Scathing, Funny as Hell – Classic Ben !

  • dub

    Black is the absence of light. Left is how NASCAR drives. Gays are not really happy… are they? Why did Obama chose being black over white? Because he could impress them better with his speech reading. Hell, he says words that zoom over the top of their heads. Them comprehend? Sure they do and they only have to mark one X to vote.

    • JeffH

      dub, your racism is unappreciated here.

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Glad you are here today. I just saw this video of a public meeting in NY to instruct gun-owners about the new “statute” regarding gun regulations.

        I promise you, it will do your heart good. And watch the long version (33min) because it has a lot of good stuff the short version missed.

        I do believe NY is a trial run for these “laws”. They simply cannot be allowed to stand.

        And ya gotta love the sheriff.

        http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2013/02/new-york-the-resistance-begins-gun-ban-non-compliance-goes-viral-has-the-2nd-american-revolution-begun-2489538.html

      • http://midcontent ridge runner

        JEFFY, pull the string on that sugar teat out of your mouth and pull up your weaning wear, and crawl up stairs, calm down, and get a drink of water, no not out of the livewater small pool in the bathroom.. This always having black squeals racism is BS.o you think any blsck organization talks or plays nice? The worst racist ppuke is in the WH, in 4 years the WH will need it be sanatized to get the jackazz and goat smell out of the carpet.

        • Jeff

          Ridge Rat:

          You are responding to JeffH, with whom I have NEVER agreed until now. You are bigoted scum not fit to lick Obama’s shoes. Period.

        • Jeff

          Ridge Rat:

          Did your cellmate, chuckie, help you come up with that one? I can’t believe just one moron could be so clever.

      • JeffH

        ridge runner, you’re oviously a dummy! Two wrongs don’t make a right either.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, I just got back from the bay area, Walnut Creek, watching the Super Bowl with a bunch of friends. It’s 11:15pm but I’ll watch the video tomorrow for sure. I caught a little bit of Alex Jones on the way home…interesting.

    • JUKEBOX

      If they don’t want to sign their real name, they will put a circle around the X.

  • AK Tom

    Another good one Ben. And some of the comments from the regular trolls on here are just baffling. Are they for real or is someone paying them to post their idiotic comments week after week? No wonder they’re so unhappy maybe they should find another job. Shouldn’t be too difficult in this new “recovery” that oblamer keeps promising us.

  • Dubi

    Here is somthing that was written by King Solomon considered a very wise man. It makes a lot of sense and might be somthing to ponder for some of you posting here!
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 A wise man’s heart is at his right hand; but a fool’s heart at his left.
    Ah the wisdom of Solomon!

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      Dubi, the wise King Solomon also said: The heart of dupes PROCLAIMS FOOLISHNESS. (Proverbs)
      And
      Every prudent man acts with knowledge, but a fool lays open his folly. (Proverbs)

      And another sharp-eyed man said:
      “You can’t fix STUPID. STUPID is FOR-EVER” – Ron White

      Dubi, the conclusion is: the Satan’s servant Bobby is unfixable.
      He is STUPID FOR-EVER.

  • John Lynch

    Ben and Alondra are right on and tragically funny to anyone who isn’t a left wing bigot. Bob and Jeff…get stuffed!

    • Bob666

      Yo John,
      “Bob and Jeff…get stuffed!”

      I’m not left, nor right-kinda in the middle and the woman is a pig.

      you’re mom must be so proud.

      • John Lynch

        There is no middle …you fool!

        • Bob666

          Yo John,
          As Ronald Regan use to say, there you go again.

          There is a middle and it is far larger than the left or the right. The middle is what has decided the last two presidential elections.

          As a representitive of the middle, let me make you aware of why you are incorrect:

          I did not vote for President Obama, but many that I know (republicans among them) did as Romeny was not the right guy. Nor was McCain with that Pin-headed Twit from Alaska.

          Until the GOP finds resonably sane canidates, people like you are going to be on sites like this crying for a very long time.

          There is a middle and the average IQ is much higher here, take the tin foil hat off and join us.

          • John Lynch

            You just like to think you’re in the middle because you are embarrassed to be thought of as you really are…a liberal sheep. The left goes by many names…moderate, progressive, enlightened, socialist…they’re all the same. Have a nice day Bob, I can see where you got your 666.

          • Bob666

            Yo Johnny,
            don’t run home a crying, just run home.

            As for names, you know what they call the customers of prostitutes?

          • Jeff

            Republican Senators?

          • Bob666

            YO Jeff,
            LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Warrior

        Wait, wait bobbo, I know this one………………..customers of prostitutes?…………………wait………wait……….menendez’s…………………….correct answer sir. What’s the prize there bobbo?

        • Bob666

          Yo Warrior,
          for you-a new tin foil hat.

      • Vicki

        Bob666 says:
        “I’m not left, nor right-kinda in the middle and the woman is a pig.”

        Such a wonderfully witty response (not). And as you said.

        “you’re mom must be so proud.”

        • Bob666

          Yo Vicki,
          Since you asked, before she died, she did tell me how proud she was of me. My mother was a successful mother, wife and business woman in a time where women were not promoted in business.

          Because of her, I was raised to respect people for the content of their character-not on race, creed, color or religion.

          yes, my mother was very proud and I’m glad you asked.

      • Kate8

        Vicki – Have you seen the video I posted to JeffH above?

        It’s really awesome the way the people of NY stood up to law enforcement and the state legislature regarding their latest gun legislation. And the sheriff was great, too.

        I was applauding these folks while I was watching. Americans rising up… hooray.

        The only sad part is that it’s going to take the older folk to get this done.

      • Kate8

        Vicki – Here is another video clip you will love (I promise).

        This is a father who lives in Newtown. He is speaking, apparently, at a hearing of the CT Legislature.

        He tells it like it is.

        http://beforeitsnews.com/media/2013/02/bravo-pro-gun-sandyhook-father-says-it-like-it-is-2452012.html

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      John, the Satan’s servant Bobby “is not left, nor right”.
      He is kinda from the bottom of the hell.
      He thinks he is a lion. But in reality he is the DEMONcratic Ass with the swine head.

  • R. Fine

    I really enjoy Ben’s little rants. I disagree with his worldview but he certainly is clever and sometimes even gets me to laugh out loud. One thing I do notice here is that many of the posters seem to be in denial. Do you not all realize that it was Barak Obama who won the last election?

    • John Lynch

      Yes.. of course we know O’Bummer won. That just makes it clear that the majority of American voters are idiots. Am I surprised? How can I be? I used to live in California.

      • Warrior

        Yeah, we all “know” how they “won” (wink, wink)! Surprislngly 60% of the country, one month later, believes we’re on the wrong track. How bout that? Now, let’s pretend we are ceo’s of a large company and received romney’s and oblama’s resume. One has been extraordinarily successful and the other’s claim to fame is he was part of a lawsuit against the gubmint and had someone write a book about “communism”. How loud can one say DUH?

      • R. Fine

        O.K. I get it. Americans who disagree with your political attitudes are idiots. Americans who agree with you are extremely intelligent.

        • Bob666

          Yo R. Fine,
          you summed that up pretty well!

    • http://midcontent ridge runner

      Yes Obummer won, but it was just with the well worn play book, of 157% registered voter turn out, all in states that don’t require voter ID. Even the Anal Powell doesn’t want voter ID of any type, another Afm Act moron and what midnite shade is he? The only way a dem can ever at anything, is by theivery, bribbing the dead, getting mental wards patients to play follow the nice marxist leaders instructions to fill color a certain box with a rug scrubbing symbol. The D by any political smuck, now stands for Deviant or demented, now with Mendez the under aged female abuser,moodelled after the Whorehound Clinton!

      • Jeff

        Ridge Rat:

        Maybe Mendez was just trying to work across the aisle, getting into the proper frame of mind to work with Senator Vitter and all the other pervs on the right (like that Scumbag Burton). The difference is we don’t yet know if Mendez did what he’s accused of. If you’ll recall, Weiner resigned; Vitter and Burton are still there!!!

      • R. Fine

        You are a classic poor loser.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY
    • Jeff

      Don’t you morons realize this “inside joke” of yours about Obama and the teleprompter is both idiotic and lame? Clearly, the majority has heard it and disregarded it. What recent president has not used a teleprompter for important speeches? Obama can’t help the fact that he’s better at delivering such speeches than your heroes on the right. As for his off-the-cuff remarks, he sometimes hesitates before he speaks because he’s thinking. I know W never had to worry about such things; he just reacted FROM THE GUT! But when he did try to remember something, it was pure Abbott and Costello, like his “old saying” “Fool me once…..shame on. … . . .you can’t get fooled AGAIN.” He needed The Who to chime in right about then!!!

      • http://midcontent ridge runner

        Obummer doesn’t use a telepromoter, everytime he give any talk, get your eyes rotated and balanced. No matter how young grade schoolers are he needs a teleprompter and an axalweed speach. As for thinking, this congental muslim liar has too dream up a new lie. I’ve arrested drunks that talked better than this goat abusing dog eater.

        • Bob666

          Yo ridge,
          “As for thinking, this congental muslim liar has too dream up a new lie”

          you do seem to raise the bar with every post.

        • Jeff

          Ridge Rat:

          Next time the nice police officer hands you a device to blow into, don’t try to call your lawyer from it!!!

      • Warrior

        Ah, I get it, his lies are hidden in his GUT?? Try again please. Not buying what you and krugman/oblama/piglosi/durbin/schumer/waters/fwanks/vanhollen/boxer/pocahantas/rahmfather are selling these days. It’s all gotten rather “stale”. BTW, do you know the “union types” have received a “little” oblamacare gift they’re not too happy about? Go check it out.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        jeff, that’s just the way it is. Without his teleprompter, Obama couldn’t string a sentence together if his life depended on it! He even used a teleprompter to address a grade 6 class. Now that’s pretty embarrassing, don’t you think?. You can view the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYrvm-vGhbc

        But if it’s any consolation, jeff, Obama reads off the teleprompter better than Bush; and
        that’s a fact! See, i give credit where credit is due.

  • http://midcontent ridge runner

    OH boobie and jeffy, most drunks and crimminal know to blow in breathalizers, unless their required ID’s had a big D imprinted on it, because they were usally trying to suck start any thing, like a tail pipe, gas line, or even trying to revive a dead weiner dogs. Democraps just plain suck at anythingyou mental morons ever dream up. Democraps only stop sucking when their exhaust orfice, sticks in their throats. Vacum malfunction!

    • Bob666

      “Democraps just plain suck at anythingyou mental morons ever dream up. Democraps only stop sucking when their exhaust orfice, sticks in their throats. Vacum malfunction”!

      Yo RR,
      what is like to go through life with such a narrow view of reality?

    • Jeff

      Ridge Rat:

      I had no idea how truly demented you are. I’m sorry and won’t torment you any further. These word games should be reserved for the relatively sane.

      • Bob666

        Yo Jeff,
        “relatively sane”

        you are being far to generous.

      • http://midcontent ridge runner

        A narrow veiw, sounds just like a marxist/communist response, deviant dumbocraps only have a dark,dank deviant veiw of reality unless it is approved by your muslim marxist leader and the communist party. since you 2 smuck are like cave fish and see nothing but s–t, it is easy to explain your mental condition, yourcondition is no mind no matter!

        • Jeff

          Ridge Rat:

          You are a moron who believes every anti-Obama thing he reads. How is Obama a communist or a socialist when the private sector is gaining jobs while it is the public sector where there are job losses? And why did the stock market just pass 14,000? The capitalists are doing just fine under this “socialist” President.

          In every recent recession under Republican presidents, the Congress has moderated the effects of the recession by increasing aid to the states so they can avoid firing cops, teachers, etc. Under Obama, except for the initial stimulus package, such aid to the states has actually decreased. Why? Because the Republican Congress preferred to let the economy suffer rather than give Obama a victory. The Congressional Republicans should be in the dock for treason, but you’ll eat their crap all day long because you are stupid and you are a bigot. Case closed.

        • macgyver1948

          @ Jeff… I suppose any view which does not agree with theirs is a commie view. That is a JBS limited view of those who aren’t like them. A commie under every rock and all that takes is for a person not to see things their ways. How far away from American and free thinking can this go? For the sake of America I dread to imagine that… Remember President Eisenhower was considered a commie because by the JBS he wouldn’t do the JBS bidding but instead tried to work for all Americans the best he could.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      jeff and macgyver1948, mocking people because they call you what you are will not change the facts that you have the character traits that make up communists, socialists, democrats, progressive, etc., or any other variety of human predators which I have not named.

      • Jeff

        The fact you could read Ridge Rat’s post and not see what a demented paranoid he is says more about you than anything you could actually post. Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is a Communist and we all sleep under your bed.

        • Bob666

          Yo Jeff,
          LMAO, but very very true! Fact is always stranger than fiction and this site proves that every day.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        jeff, simple fact is that you are a human predator.

        • Jeff

          I feast on the stupid and may I say you were delicious.

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            we are talking a tastey food chain!

        • Bob666

          Nadzieja,
          why do care at all about what Jeff says or does? from what I have seen, Jeff seems to be able to cash the checks that he writes. That is something that we should all be able to do.

      • Kate8

        jeff and bob666, both legends in their own minds.

        Trust me when I tell you that your inflated, egotistical opinions of yourselves are not shared by anyone else here.

        Most see you as incredibly pathetic. You can’t even tell when you make complete fools of yourselves.

      • macgyver1948

        Nadzieja Batki… Are you for real? Just because you and yours rants commie doesn’t mean RED.   If you can go through your delusions with the fantasy the Right sets up for you by calling us commie then how can you be taken as normal rational persons? Your hypocrisies, thinking you are for liberty is a joke. You can’t speak Liberty for yourselves and deny it for others and expect to be taken for American. You have that JBS fascist aura about your comments and they are meaningless when we know we aren’t commie. But go for it even as you think you know people you do not have a clue about. Listen to your puppet masters.

        Let me ask you this. Do you get off being insulting and using name calling, especially using names that do not apply, as you did in kindergarten? It’s time you grow up.

        • Bob666

          Yo macgyver1948,

          If it were up to these so called “lovers of liberty”, those of us who disagree with them would be forced into a “reeducation camp” where we would be forced to listen to Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Bill O’Reilly 19 hours a day until we asked for bullet to put us out of our misery. In between those outburst, the church ladies on this board would quote bible verses while explaining while they are always right and we are always wrong.

          Liberty is only deserving to those who agree with the church ladies, have you not figured this out yet?

          • John the Harley man

            I would be more than happy to supply ammunition needed for this noble cause.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… In some ways I agree with you. I see so many similarities between how these so-called Liberty ‘only for our ways’ lovers see Liberty and those of an enemy we had in WW2. These guys are just less powerful and controlling, thank God. Maybe it’s because the law hasn’t be usurped/stolen by them as it was but that WW2 enemy but I think they want it.

            Your last paragraph, with your simple limited definition of Liberty for them, I know, I see this all to often.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    The party line is that Obama’s new pick for SEC boss – Mary Jo White – will be tough on Wall Street.

    For example, the Wall Street Journal writes:

    Obama Taps Ex-Prosecutor Mary Jo White, Portending Increased Policing of Wall Street

    In reality, this is putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

    White used to represent Morgan Stanley, and blocked an insider investigation into Morgan Stanley boss John Mack.

    The truth is that all of Obama’s appointments have been in bed with the big banks … and none of them have “gotten tough” on Wall Street once they were appointed:

    Before Obama was sworn in for his first term, he nominated Geithner and Summers to the top economic posts … two of the guys most responsible for causing the economic crisis in the first place.

    He appointed as head of the derivatives-regulating CFTC Gary Gensler … one of the guys most responsible for allowing derivatives to go unregulated and to crash the economy.

    Obama replaced Summers with Wall Street insider Gene Sperling, and appointed JP Morgan exec William Daley as his chief of staff.

    Obama replaced Geithner with his chief of staff … consummate Wall Street insider Jack Lew.

    He named as the head of the Department of Justice a former lawyer for the big banks, who brought in other lawyers for big banks to oversee Wall Street.

    In other words, Obama – like Bush – has let Wall Street get away with crime because he has appointed government officials who are in bed with Wall Street.

    The SEC has been shredding documents around the clock to cover up Wall Street fraud. Senior SEC employees spent up to 8 hours a day surfing porn sites instead of cracking down on financial crimes (the same thing happens at Treasury and other government agencies.)

    Nothing will change under Mary Jo White.

    While some die-hard Obama supporters hoped that things would change in his second term, or that Obama was naively believing the advice of bad advisers, former IMF chief economist Simon Johnson noted in 2009 that Obama knows exactly what he’s doing:

    Many people assume that Obama doesn’t understand that his economic team – Summers, Geithner, Bernanke, Gensler and the boys – are preserving the status quo, and failing to make the fundamental reforms needed to stabilize the economy.

    They assume that the economy is a mysterious subject for experts, and that Obama innocently thinks his team is doing good for the American people.

    But professor of economics and former chief IMF economist Simon Johnson isn’t buying it.

    As Johnson and James Kwak write today in the Washington Post:

    During the reign of Louis XIV, when the common people complained of some oppressive government policy, they would say, “If only the king knew . . . .”

    Occasionally people will make similar statements about Barack Obama, blaming the policies they don’t like on his lieutenants.

    But Barack Obama, like Louis XIV before him, knows exactly what is going on.

    Indeed, Obama was bought and paid for many years ago, and he has pimped out the American people ever since.

  • FreedomFighter

    Federal Court Indicts President Obama Will not see end of his second term?…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nX2dwrI_ZEw

    “President Barack Hussein Obama has been indicted by a Federal Court”

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      Nothing short of execution by firing-squad will suffice. Let’s keep our fingers crossed!

      • R. Fine

        There seems to be some confusion on this matter. Firstly none of the real news outlets are reporting what ought to be an important story. The claim is that a federal court is going to try the President. This seems to be patently false news. From what I can gather some Obama haters have gotten together and call themselves a Grand Jury which, of course, they are not and they have made a request to a prosecutor to charge the President with something or other. So really this claim is no more than a fool’s joke. But if anyone can supply us with some facts I’d certainly be glad to check it out but for now NO FEDERAL COURT HAS INDICTED THE PRESIDENT. It just ain’t true.

        • Jeff

          They might have gotten a bit suspicious when they heard Judge Napolitano will preside!

      • Jeff

        Yes, the indictment is secret. You only know about it if you wear a foil hat and tune into Rush on Wednesdays! Honestly, could you guys be any nuttier?

        • macgyver1948

          Jeff… It was said to prompt your response “Nothing short of execution by firing-squad will suffice. Let’s keep our fingers crossed!”. The exaction before the evidence is presented and considered. No more Americanism, and “innocent until proven guilty” in these statement so what could they really be besides, what is that hot beverage, it’s is not coffee?…

          The foil hat and Rush do got together, LOL….

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        President Obama has been charged by Federal Appeals Court in D.C. with violating the U.S. Constitution by appointing three members to the NLRB (National Labor Relations Board) without congressional approval while congress was still in session.

        Now we can impeach him in order to stand trial!

      • FreedomFighter

        AMERICANS WILL DIE AFTER ‘GUN BAN’

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5To0r5y93mA

        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

      • Kate8

        The indictment is real, and it includes over 300 counts of criminality and treason.

        Several judges are calling for arrests of Obama, Michelle and others who are complicit, but so far no one has the courage to make the arrests. They need to get the proper authority to do it.

        The MSM, being owned by the same corporate cabals as Obama, is not reporting it. To them, if they ignore it, it’s not happening.

        This is not going to be dropped until every patriot is stone cold. It look like we may possibly be seeing some major changes very soon.

        If things go as hoped, it won’t be the conservative Christians who occupy the re-education camps. Heh heh. I hope the commie libs like drab colors.

  • John the Harley man

    I have to agree that those on the right have become disrespectful toward those who have left leaning ideals. I have long since given up on gaining the respect of those who support big government and their anti constitutional opinions. However, I believe that the so-called conservatives that continue to support anti-American ideals should be held accountable for the success of the administration’s victories. Any Republicans who vote to extend the policies that are selling our children and grandchildren into debt slavery should be chastised right along side those who support those policies. Therefore, I believe that the respect that is being given to these statist socialists (not an insult…just truth in labeling) by Republicans who give in to their agenda is exactly what keeps progressives afloat. I have a personal right to disrespect leftists for the evil they are doing, but I have no illusion that I can change them through appealing to their logic or by any other way. The good book says we are not to throw pearls before swine…a waste of time and effort. I would rather appeal to anyone who has a conservative opinion to quit capitulating and stop settling for half measures out of some sort of misplaced bi-partisan outreach. Let’s keep it real.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      That’s why there are sites like this, that of Sultan of Knish, Geller, Michael Savage and countless others to solidify beliefs of like minded people.
      The Leftists who come to this site are the most intolerant of those who claim to be tolerant and we are supposed to be so afraid of them because they snarl.

      • macgyver1948

        Nadzieja Batki… This particular site says “Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion”.

        Did you miss this on the way in or do you just do not understand it?

        Could it be that many in this site get nasty and insulting when they read someone who does not agree enough with them? I know for some on the Left who come to this site, including me, do not get nasty or insulting until they can not longer take the childish insulting and name calling attacks for you Right guys for not saying what you would agree with. I do no care if you do not agree with me, you do not have to, but if you get childish and disrespectful you, those of you who do, deserve what is said to you in return. To call people Communists or Socialists when they aren’t will get you called something Nazi like and you have asked for it when you act that way.

        Guess who really is “the most intolerant of those who claim to be” believing in real Liberty? When you do not allow others to be who they are and instead call them what they aren’t you are not really for Liberty.

      • ridge runner

        Nadz, the leftist communist/marxist always talk compromise, that is conservatism must step back 3 steps and give in. I wish the someone could point out one time the socialist/communist dumborats have ever compromised,, never has there been any compromise over even doing something different but liberial communists getting their way. Wheather it having an honest election, saving the economic economy, any private businesses, Christanity, instead the party has embrassed any thing promoting total government control over everything, down to what ypu eat, think, and what you do to control and handle you money, or any thing that implies freedom. This has been a democrat party plank, only it has gotten yotally out of control in the lasr6 years, or total control by the communist./marxist party pukes.

    • jopa

      I think someone should go over and help Kate8 find her meds.She is really falling off the edge this time.

  • ridge runner

    I see jeffy and boobir, beleive all the communist medias BS. Onumnutts and the dumbocraps are and still are closely tied to the communist party, Bozzo beleives in marxism, communism, and socialism in any form, as well as supporting and pushing for total control of the world by the dictatornest called the UN. Axeweed or democrap Axelrodthe great adviser, mother is tied closely with the communist/marxist organization. So both of you [offensive comment removed] want to know why people call the muslism marxist a puke, go read facts, starting with the his books written with a domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, the crossbred puke in the WH, hates whites, all Jewish people, embraces anything the pedophile worshipping perverts want, the perv’s pastor, Rev Wrong, loved any thing that promoted communism, marxism, and “black theology” ,black panthers, Queerdafi, and any other abhorants crap. [offensive comments removed]

    • Bob666

      yo RR,
      once again, you continue to raise the bar with each post.

      • ridge runner

        bobbie, did your mommee let you out for a snack? I like to raise the bar, since bottom feeders like you can not defend your muslim marxist and the communist socialist party’ Either by facts or historic history, morons just get whiney and get full diapers. The only hope to keepraying to Jesus, for the Holy Spirit to wake up pervs and deviants that government solves nothing but destroys nations.

    • macgyver1948

      ridge runner.. Your rant isn’t even worth responding to other than my little two sense. You prove your ignorance and immaturity each time you make a comment…

      • ridge runner

        Mac, you sure aren’t a gyver, but a poiser, a no class idoit, a organism who can not get your head out of your posterier, to see where your adoration for the ruination of the USA, by this muslim marxist and the socialist/democrap party is wrong,

        • macgyver1948

          ridge runner… As I suggested the more you speak the more you prove you know very little about Liberty and America and nothing at all about Obama. Continue trying to prove to yourself you are aware but I feel the only one you are fooling is yourself.

    • Bob666

      To R/R
      taken that bar to a new level I see.

  • jopa

    Wow there sure are some goofy comment on here and it sounds as if 99% of the posters are like me.They didn’t listen again what Ben had to say this week in that it is a total waste of time.I just stopped by to read some of the posts to see what the crazies are up to this week.SOS

  • sam1966

    Bob antichrist, Jeff, Mac, and R. fine, if you wish to post any more comments, please go by Bob Livingston’s policies. But alas! The 5th column has no morals or ethics. Since you all come here only to divide, tell lies, rhetoric, innuendo, spew hat and misinformation, you all are nothing but cowards and traitors. None of you, repeat none of you are true Americans. Here is what you 4 are:

    And there were also sodomites (QUEERS) in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations of which the Lord cast out before the children of Israel.”

    1st Kings 14:24

    And they took away the sodomites out of the land (Slew them), and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
    And also Maachah his mother, even her he removed from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove; and Asa destroyed her idol, and burnt it by the brook Kidron.”

    1st Kings 15:12 – 13

    And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land (Slew them).

    1st Kings 22:46

    Take the hint. Though I cannot physically harm you, illegal you know, but we can drive you from this site. Remember, since the signers of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were either President’s or members of the United Bible Society, it would be preposterous they wanted to form a nation void of the Christian principles which they themselves believed in.” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you all out.

    “If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”

    Ronald Reagan

    • Bob666

      Like a needy child with a desperate plea for attenion.

    • Bob666

      Let me correct that, like a needy Schizophrenic who suffers from voices in his head crying out for attention. They need Obama care!

      • sam1966

        Like I said, no facts or sources. Just personal attacks, lies, hate, rhetoric, and innuendo. You are a perfect example of a sheeple. Here is something about your “messiah:”

        http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/9320/obama-im-not-done-raising-taxes/

        Thanks to you and your 5th column ilk, the poor will get poorer and the middle class will disappear. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out. I also suggest that you adhere to Bob’s comment policy.

        “I don’t know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is One Nation Under God.”

        George H. W. Bush

        • macgyver1948

          sam1966… Wow are you so blind? What 5th column ilk? If you understand anything that is going the shrinking of the middle class and make more poor look at the TPGOP who is in business solely for the benefit and protection of the big corporations. The TPGOP does what it is told by way of big money and conflict-of-interest pledges, over 270 TPGOP elected in Congress, to do the bidding of the Big Corporations.

          Here is a hint. What the TPGOP, signers of the pledge, is told to support:

          1- No tax increases ever no matter what.
          2- Help the execs lower as much of their expenses as possible and to keep as much of their money at the top as they can (Payroll is a big expense and about the easiest expense to control. Also regulations cause corporate expenses to go up so be against all even needed regulations.

          In return the execs and the very wealthy will donate largely to them and now anomalously so we wont know who is trying to purchase the politicians. Also they will get the support they need for reelection.

          If the the signers of the pledges violate the oath of the pledge the power behind the pledge say “..they will be toast” and that power guy has the money and the clout to do it.

          Where is the incentive for the TPGOP to help us? It is not so much the Dems who are hurting us as you are told to believe. Do some research and learn something so you wont say ridiculous statements such as “Thanks to you and your 5th column ilk, the poor will get poorer and the middle class will disappear”. Maybe for a change you could say something real.

          Thewn you include “I don’t know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is One Nation Under God.” George H. W. Bush”

          What is next in your book, something like “I don’t know that any non Christians (Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Native Americans who have not converted to Christianity, Muslims and the rest) should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is One Nation Under God.” sam1966

          If you did that, as your next logical step, I bet the Founders would reinforce Freedom Of Religion against you and George H. W. Bush, now from the grave, as they did long ago for all the needed reasons.

          Do you remember something like this”
          First they came for the communists and I didn’t speak out

          First they came for the communists
          and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

          Then they came for the trade unionists,
          and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

          Then they came for the Jews (or the Catholics or the Mormons or the …,
          and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

          Then they came for me (sam1966 and Samurai)
          and there was no one left to speak out for me.

          pastor Martin Niemöller

          888

          sam1966 or whatever, you just do not get it.

    • macgyver1948

      sam1966… Do you mean site policies such as “Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion.

      I Think you forget this yourself as you incite discouraging rebuttal. Stop putting other people views and acceptances down and you might not get disparaging responses to your insults and idiocies. This along with you ridiculous claims and misunderstandings of the US Constitution will also get you the kinds of responses you are getting. Enjoy.

      • sam1966

        Actually, I haven’t misrepresented the Constitution or any of our Christian founding fathers and you cannot prove otherwise. But alas! Your group hasn’t learned what is really in the Constitution. Do not respond as I have moved on. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “A patriot must be a religious man.”

        Thomas Jefferson

        • macgyver1948

          sam1966… Actually I do not have to say you “misrepresented the Constitution or any of our Christian founding fathers” because you do the best job of that all by yourself.

          Then you end this with “A patriot must be a religious man.” Thomas Jefferson

          I am ok with this but not literally because I have to respect other people’s choices, that is a Liberty thing for me. BUT no where in Jefferson’s quote does he use the word Jesus or Christ. Why do you continue to be stupid about this?

          • Jeff

            Faque Samurai sees every historical reference to Jesus as proof that the U.S. is a Christian Nation and that the history of Christianity is purely wonderful. I wonder what he teaches his class about the wonderful history of the Catholic Church with its Inquisitions, Crusades, and support of murderous regimes. Probably blames it all on Obama.

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            What he teaches his class about the wonderful history of the Catholic Church with its Inquisitions, Crusades, and support of murderous regimes.

            That is was all done by people just like him, in the name of his god.

            He is one broken toy with a bunch of problems.

          • macgyver1948

            Jeff… I have very much noticed these things aout sam1966. He sees words in the Constition and the Star Bangled Banner that aren’t there. Spooky, huh? The Church has its many moments in its own Jihad, not just those you mention. And which churches were representing as they did the witch hunts in America and never really found any but sure did violate ”thou shall not kill”? If you sink or burn and die you are innocent, oh well, but if you float to the top or not burn and live you are of the devil. Is that Right thinking?

            I think maybe it was Obama who conspired with the Egyptions when they decided to make slaves out of the Israelites. Obama is really old, isn’t he?

            The thing is there are many religions that have their dark moments in history and that should be remembered. Gihad is a word in a particular language but it can be used, in any languague, by any religious culture for their own purposes, IE as you mention – The Crusades. I sence people like sam1966 have their own Jihad going in his attempt to disalow any beliefs but his own.There is just no Liberty in thier thinking and actions.

          • Jeff

            Can you imagine a world where someone like Faque Samurai had power over people? It’d be the Spanish Inquisition all over again. He’d sit there with his Jon Belushi sword sentencing people to death for disagreeing with him, and doing it in the name of Jesus!

          • macgyver1948

            Jeff… I have know people like Samurai and they make people uncomfortable with their one sided intolerant view of things and forceful attitudes in that he cannot be wrong. He would have made a good Spanish Inquisitor. “Off with their heads if they do not agree” but it doesn’t work with Free Will, God’s gift to us, or Liberty.

            He would make a lousy minister or counselor of any kind. He would chase people away.

          • Jeff

            He claims to be a teacher. I pity his students. Remember Rodney Dangerfield’s history teacher in “Back To School”?

          • macgyver1948

            Jeff…. I agree and I would not want his TP like attitude teaching my kids but I get torn between Free Speech in general and his right to be a bore and insulting/disrespectful where my kids can hear him.

            It can be related to separated or divorced parents. I know we shouldn’t put down the other parent to our kids but some time it is so freaking tempting. LOL… We should watch what we say in front of them because they tend to absorb attitudes of those we see as authorities. When they grow up they can choose to be idiots.

            Rodney does have a way to get things across, doesn’t he?

          • Jeff

            If you want to see some really moronic posts, check out the Point-Counterpoint on Second Amendment Rights. A few there are convinced they have the right to a personal air force and can prove it through quotes from 1800. They are all convinced I am from outer space – Dalek, Kimo-something, and Kansas Bright. Quite a group.

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            That’s funny, I found out from the same group that fourteen generations of men in my family were really devil worshiping at the Masonic lodge.

            The stuff that you learn on this site is really like an “out of body” experience.

          • macgyver1948

            Jeff… Personal Air Forces, huh? The OK Carroll syndrome is extended to the air. The air will be filled with dust so where will we be able to go to breathe? LOL… I guess that is what you get with a “KILL ‘EM ALL AND LET God SORT IT ALL OUT” attitude. There will be no one left so it wont matter to consider anyone’s Liberty at all…

            Just like with the belief that if I decide to attack someone for whatever reason and he has the audacity to defend himself I have the right to take out my gun and murder him. Nothing like having law give you the right to murder. :-)… The Second Amendment was never meant for these things.

          • Jeff

            You better check that interpretation with Dalek. He considers himself the world’s foremost authority on the Constitution with particular emphasis on the Second Amendment.

          • macgyver1948

            Jeff… I’m just saying the Second Amendment did not call for the legal justification of murder. I do not have to check with Delek for that. Primarily it is for the protection of us and ours as well as against government intrusions. Well, that could be redundant, LOL. But I do not think we are Constitutionally allowed an Air Force of our own or atom bombs either.

          • Jeff

            They treat the Constitution like it’s a word game. Any logical connection they can make they think should be policy. They don’t understand all Constitutional interpretation has to include a rule of reason. It is a Constitution; not a suicide pact.

          • macgyver1948

            Jeff… I guess when people want a document to fit their definition of life they talk it up that way. If people disagree with your version of liberty you are wrong and they claim you do not understand the document, in this case the “Constitution”. I wish Liberty was understood by all in that it fits all peoples definitions for themselves so everyone’s liberties are respected equally. Otherwise there is no real Liberty. Something went wrong when it went Right for those who think “its only how I think Liberty should be for all”.

      • Bob666

        Yo Mac,
        A couple of questions for you that maybe you have the answers to:

        What is the fifth column that Samuri1966 keeps refering to?
        Who is paying us to post?
        Are you getting a check?
        How many personalities do think Samuri1966 has?
        Or do the two we know of oppress the others yearning to be free?

        inquiring minds want to know??

        • macgyver1948

          Bob666… LOL.. I also asked him about his 5th column remark. WHERE IS MY CHECK? I am not getting any money for this nor was I told in any way to write what I write. I do so because I love America and I want Liberty to prevail. But I am on this site to learn and share but not to change minds. I guess it seems I am trying to change minds to those who cannot stand being disagreed with. I have some audacity to not agree with the right after they straighten me out here. lol

          You asked another question I cannot answer, that being how many personalities sam1966 has. I think only his psychiatrist can answer that – maybe.

          Just for fun and since I know where the term comes from (I just took it from my notes):
          From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia-
          For other uses, see Fifth Column (disambiguation).
          A fifth column is a group of people who clandestinely undermine a larger group, such as a nation, from within. A fifth column can be a group of secret sympathizers of an enemy that are involved in sabotage within military defense lines, or a country’s borders.A key tactic of the fifth column is the secret introduction of supporters into the whole fabric of the entity under attack.This clandestine infiltration is especially effective with positions concerning national policy and defense. From influential positions like these, fifth column tactics can be effectively utilized, from stoking fears through misinformation campaigns, to traditional techniques like espionage.

          Bob. see what we are if we believe him, anything from him? LMAO

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            As my dear dead daddy use to say, fact is always stranger than fiction and some of the characters on this site defy the most twisted and demented imagination of anyone that I have know in my many years in at least 18 different countries.

          • macgyver1948

            bob666… yeah… “fact is stranger than fiction”..

            On another page here a guy just claimed to be “a older white supremacist” and of God at the same time. He even ended his comment with “Meanwhile , Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…”. I asked him how he can justify that contradiction, well, it is to me. I haven’t heard back yet.

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            I suspect they cut the DSL after medication time in Sam Land.

            Schizophrenia symptoms usually develop slowly over months or years. Sometimes they may have many symptoms, and at other times they may only have a few symptoms.

            People with any type of schizophrenia may have trouble keeping friends and working. They may also have problems with anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts or behaviors.

            At first, you may have the following symptoms:
            • Irritable or tense feeling
            •Trouble concentrating
            •Trouble sleeping

            As the illness continues, you may have problems with thinking, emotions, and behavior, including:

            •Bizarre behaviors
            •Hearing or seeing things that are not there (hallucinations)
            •Isolation
            •Lack of emotion (flat affect)
            •Problems paying attention
            •Strongly held beliefs that are not real (delusions)
            •Thoughts that “jump” between different topics (“loose associations”)

            Actually-this could describe a bunch of people.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob… we may be in the right place. Seriously, Schizophrenia can also be genetic and also brought on by trama. I know of a woman, dead now, whose father ate a bullet just as she skipped into the room (she saw it all), she was 7 at the time and very much a daddy’s girl. She went into depression and was dignosed with Schizophrenia. Her older brother told me she showed no symtoms before the shooting and she was a livey happy child until then. Also it shares some symrtoms with bipolar and manic depression os they are similiar deseases to different degrees. We should not be so fast to say what someone has unless we are a shrink and we study the person but at times here…

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            you are correct -we should not be quick to judge, but whem I see the following:

            Bizarre behaviors
            •Hearing or seeing things that are not there (hallucinations)-right wing media
            •Isolation-using the internet to cope and lash out.
            •Lack of emotion (flat affect)
            •Problems paying attention
            •Strongly held beliefs that are not real (delusions)-ring a bell?
            •Thoughts that “jump” between different topics (“loose associations”) need i say more?

            those in the mental health field could find a gold mine here.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob… believe me I understood you, this time too…

    • Jeff

      So who are you planning to slay for the Lord?

    • jopa

      sam1992samuraisook:If you don’t like things like freedom of the press or freedom of speech go back to Japsan and work on their laws we like ours.

  • jopa

    Shouls have read Japan but I’m pretty sure you all realized that.

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