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Peace-Loving Gay Community Violently Protests Chick-fil-A

August 7, 2012 by  

Peace-Loving Gay Community Violently Protests Chick-fil-A
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Some gay rights activists protested Chick-fil-A.

Since Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy vocally supported traditional marriage, the LGBT community vowed to boycott the intolerant, hateful fried chicken chain. But the protests have been anything but a tolerant love fest.

On Thursday, a Chick-fil-A in Torrance, Calif., became a canvass for a gay artist. The words “Tastes Like Hate” and a picture of a cow were scrawled across the side of the building. Manny Castro claimed the artwork.

Castro denies any wrong doing. “Everybody is entitled to free speech, but it seems like for the gay tribe, this is more of an issue of equal rights — human rights,” Castro told the Huffington Post. “I’m against what these people stand for, what this company stands for. They’re trying to take away what little rights we already have. It’s paint on a wall. It got removed in less than an hour. It’s not that much of a crime — it’s a protest.”

A Chick-fil-A in St. Louis was also vandalized. “Don’t Hate,” was written on the side of the building which serves drive-thru customers.

At a Chick-fil-A in Chicago, a group of Chick-fil-A protestors congregated around a homeless man reading his Bible. An eyewitness recounted the event.

While there, a group formed around an elderly African-American homeless man, who was reading his bible while seated along a fence rail off to the side of the protest. Some in the group confronted the man, who was reading the bible aloud, and engaged him in theological debates. A few others took the opportunity to mock the man, which I captured on video:



Adam Smith was the CFO of an Arizona-based medical device manufacturer. Smith waited in the drive-thru to receive free water and berate a Chick-fil-A employee. Smith later posted another video, apologizing to the employee.



Some gay rights activists have seen the hypocrisy in the protests. Most notable of which being internet sensation Antoine Dodson. (Dodson became famous overnight when he appeared on a news station in Hunstsville, Ala., to discuss the attempted rape of his sister.) Dodson spoke to a Birmingham, Ala., talk show, “The Matt Murphy Show,” and said that the gay community is “becoming bullies.”

Bryan Nash

Staff writer Bryan Nash has devoted much of his life to searching for the truth behind the lies that the masses never question. He is currently pursuing a Master's of Divinity and is the author of The Messiah's Misfits, Things Unseen and The Backpack Guide to Surviving the University. He has also been a regular contributor to the magazine Biblical Insights.

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  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    I COULD NOT GET THE VIDEO FOR THIS STORY TO PLAY.

    IN REFERENCE TO THE HOMELESS-NEGRO MALE WITH THE Bible, THOSE CAUCASIAN “gays” HAD G-R-E-A-T MALICE.

    CAUCASIAN “gays” ARE ANGRY WITH NEGROES BECAUSE THEY CONSIDER NEGROES TO BE SO-CALLED, “homophobic.” CAUCASIAN “gay” MALES ARE EXTREMELY AFRAID OF NEGRO MALES – BUT, THEY FANTASIZE AND PURSUE NEGRO MALES FOR SEX. IN THE ALL-MALE ADULT-ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY, CAUCASIAN FILMMAKERS/PRODUCERS MAKE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ANNUALLY BY SELLING NEGRO-MALE EROTICA AS, “EXOTIC FETISH-PORN.” YET, THESE “gay” CAUCASIAN MALES HAVE NO PROBLEM HATING NEGRO MALES IN PUBLIC.

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS, “homophobia.” DISAPPROVAL OF HOMOSEXUALITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FEAR. IN PRE-COLONIAL TRIBAL AFRICA, NEGROES DISAPPROVED OF HOMOSEXUALITY. FROM A MALE STANDPOINT, NEGROES CONSIDER HOMOSEXUALITY TO BE A DIRECT ASSAULT ON “black” MANHOOD.

    THE ELDERLY AND HOMELESS NEGRO MALE IN THIS STORY WAS PROBABLY AFRAID OF A GROUP OF YOUNG-CAUCASIAN MALES. SINCE HE IS NOW IN CHICAGO, HE WAS PROBABLY BORN AND RAISED IN THE SOUTH. IF SO, HE REMEMBERS THE TERROR OF, Ku Klux Klan. I WISH A DECENT ATTORNEY COULD SEE THIS STORY AND HELP THIS ELDERLY MALE BY FILING A HARRASSMENT SUIT AGAINST THESE YOUNG AND BIASED FOOLS!

    • JimH

      The picture shows a sign that says”intolerance tastes terrible”.
      This shows the protester’s “intolerance” for anyones point of view but his.
      What the hypocrit is saying is ” I’m intolerant of your intolerance and will do anything I can to destroy intolerence.”(only the stuff I can’t tolerate)
      If all you gay’s out there are so into “tolerance”, learn to tolerate people who don’t tolerate you.
      I wonder how many gay’s truely want to marry their partners and how many want it because the can’t have it.

      • Ted Crawford

        I’m tolerant Of the gay lifestyle. I afford it the exact same tolerance that I do for those who pratice, Pedophilia, Necrophilia or Bestiality, You can put lipstick on a pig but you still just have a pig! Any who are practitioners of these sexually deviant behaviors, are better served to keep it very, very quiet !

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “JimH,”

        I GUARANTEE – THOSE MARRIED SISSYS IN MASSACHUSETTS WILL BE “DIVORCED” IN LESS THAN THREE YEARS.

      • Wyatt

        I wonder if these people know just how Hypocritical they really are . Yes they give good sound bytes on the lame stream news but their intolerance of any one who disagrees with them .
        I learned along time ago the difference between Democracy and a Republic . In a Democracy , the majority is controlled by what ever minority screams and kicks their feet the loudest . A Republic is governed by a minority of elected officials acting in accordance to the wish’s of the majority and with wise judgement for the good of that majority .
        Strange that it is always the Left Wingers who are screaming and kicking their feet with disorderly protests resulting in destruction of property and injuries , and the Right Wing Majority that hold peaceful demonstrations . As examples look at the OWS mob and the Chic-Fil-A protests .
        Sadly , the Federal Government is not in the marriage business and never were , nor were they intended to be . Nowhere in our Constitution is there any reference to marriage . As it plainly states ” the Government shall create no religion ” , marriage is left to the secular world and the church . It is also left to the individual states to decide .
        For 1.8% of the population to protest in this manner is exactly the same as a temper tantrum in a 2 yr old and , I must agree with the poster who said ” they only want it , because they can’t have it ” .

      • Karolyn

        All gays cannot be painted with the same broad brush, just as neither can all conservatives, Christians, liberals, etc. One point I wanted to make is that you would not find lesbians with this kind of behavior. It is particular to males in general.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          That is far from the truth, lesbians can act the same way!!!

      • JeffH

        It is only natural that Karolyn would exclude lesbians, not because they are gay, because they are women. Karolyn doesn’t have much use for men, in general, and has expressed that though in many of her past posts.

      • THG

        I can’t wait till the courts start hitting them with alimony and the first time one of owns a home and his rump ranger wife gets it , they will all change their minds then

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          If that’s what it takes, then it is a great blessing!!!

      • Karolyn

        Oh, come on Jeff. I jsut state fact. Do you really believe women are as violent as men and act out as much as men do? You must be living in a different world. Certain behavioral traits are more common to men than to women and vice versa. i just calls ‘em as they are.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          In the last 20 years or so, women have become much more like men & men much more like women used to be.

      • JeffH

        Karolyn, what you are is a hypocrit and no, you don’t always state facts…opinions are not facts…you are and have always given women the benefit of any doubt and have constantly railed on men…with you, a man is guilty before he is innocent no matter the circumstances. In the real world, women can be just as guilty, mean and coniving as any man can be. It’s not and nevr has been a one way street. You know it’s true, you just refuse to admit it.

      • APN

        Karolyn said: Oh, come on Jeff. I jsut state fact. Do you really believe women are as violent as men and act out as much as men do? You must be living in a different world. Certain behavioral traits are more common to men than to women and vice versa. i just calls ‘em as they are.
        _____________________________________________________________________

        Now you are an expert in human behavior I guess? I think you are the typical liberal female who tries to assert yourself as something your aren’t. In fact, you have no credentials whatsoever other than your ill “felt out” opinion. Which again, is typical of a progressive female. Subjective comments are all you have and you have never once supplied us with any substantive edvidence to support your “Touchy-Feely” claims.

        Let’s see now, this sounds familiar, Oh, Ms. Harry Reid, a progressive female trapped in a old mans body who spews foolishness from the Senate Floor at tax payers expense.

        Oh, again, Hillary Clinton, a progressive female fool who will eventually get us all killed if she don’t get here Fascist nose out of Russia and China’s business. Yea Karolyn, men are just so much more violent than men, just ask Hillary, when she jumped for joy when Quadafi was killed. But heck, we dumb ole men get it, you big powerfull females are going to rule the planet! For about 2 days until the whole damn planet implodes.

        Your most recent post is the DUMBEST to date and relfects just how foolish you really are.

        Sad fact is, you have a lot of company right there with you.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Truth be told, the Age of Aquarius,, which has already begun, is to be the return of the Mother Light, the Divine Feminine, to the evolutions of earth…..nobody can deny our patriarchal history has been a disaster, men have screwed things up big time…..but, we need true women not those who act like angry, violent, egotistical men, those who have perverted the Masculine energies

      • Karolyn

        Jeff and APN – I don’t come to this information just through my own perception but through studies done by professionals, including mostly men. Of course, there are violent women and meek men, but that is not the general rule. Men DO commit most of the violent crime and create the wars. We think differently and have different inherent traits – like women have better peripheral vision than men, and men are better at backing up a car. It all has to do with where we came from going back thousands of years and what we had to deal with. And I did not come up with this on my own. Do a little research.

      • Karolyn

        OOOOP – We are in agreement here.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        IT IS FUNNY HOW MALES ON THIS SITE OFTEN TALK ABOUT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, BUT, THEY ARE AFRAID TO ADMIT HOW THEY T-R-U-L-Y FEEL ABOUT THE LIBERATION OF WOMEN [Hmn...I wonder why?].

        AS A MALE HOMOSEXUAL, I HAVE THE LUXURY OF NOT HAVING TO DEAL WITH FEMALES. YET, HETEROSEXUAL MALES MUST “BITE THEIR TONGUES” IN THEIR DEALINGS WITH FEMALES. [Talk about high-class laughter!!!].

      • http://naver samurai

        Wrong answer Chris. It depends on what form of women’s liberation you are referring to. Is it the one under Susan B. Anthony or the modern feminazi version? The Susan B. Anthony version is OK. The article is abour gays and not the women’s movement.

        “If a man lieth with another man, as he would with a woman, let them die the death.”

        Leviticus 20:13

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          Sammy thats the stupid opinion of the man writing not god lgbt are his children and he created them in his image

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “samurai,”

        MY POINT IS – MY MOTHER IS A HOUSEWIFE. BECAUSE WE LIVE IN AN AGE OF SEXUAL REVOLUTION [WHICH INCLUDES COLLEGE-EDUCATED AND WORKING FEMALES], WHEN MALES AND FEMALES HAVE AN ARGUMENT MALES ALLOW FEMALES TO WIN THE ARGUMENT SO “THE SEX” WILL NOT STOP. FEMALES TRULY UNDERSTAND THE POWER THEY HOLD OVER MALES.

      • sam1966

        Thanks for the explination Chris. If I misunderstood what you were saying, then accept my apologies. AS, knock off the nonsense. We were all created in God’s image, but those that are gay have gone against what God has created them for. Seems like you are the less intelligent mind here, kang. Why don’t you just go home and stay there. Even Bob Livingston has said that you post nothing but lies and misconceptions. You are a disgrace. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        P.S. There are no atheists in foxholes.

        • actual socialist

          And by not being tolerant you are ignoring his commands you hypocrite

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear sam1966 (aka samurai),

          You write: ” Even Bob Livingston has said that you post nothing but lies and misconceptions.” Please do not attribute things to me that I have not done.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • vieteravet

        It’s a shame we can control AIDS, it was a great way of getting rid of these A-Holes!

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “sam1966,”

        I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR “AS,” “kang” AND “Bob Livingston” REFERENCES. PLEASE EXPLAIN?

        IF YOU ARE ALSO, “samurai,” WHY USE TWO MONIKERS?

      • michiganminuteman

        Jim, I think you hit the nail right on the head

      • http://naver samurai

        To Bob Livingston and Chris Horton, please accept my apologies. I was referring to a Chris Kang that comes onto this site as truesoy or some other name. Chris Horton, I think you and Bob are good patriots and I do not want this mistake of mine to come between us, nor do I want it to cause dissention in the ranks against the 5th columners that plague this site. The Chris I was referring to I’ve had the displeasure of knowing since 2010. The man is a megalomaniac and thinks his knowledge of science and his atheism makes him smarter than anyone else. Once again, the samurai apologizes to you 2. I did go by samurai, but since joining the gravitar thing, they said I had to change my name for it wouldn’t accept samurai. They told me 7-8 characters long and it must contain numbers also. Let’s continue the good fight for this great country of ours. Bob, the person I was talking about was truesoy. Thank you all and this will never happen again on my part. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “OOOOPPert EEEEpert,”

        I AGREE. DURING THE “Act-Up” PROTESTS AGAINST A LACK OF HIV-AIDS INITIATIVES DURING THE 1980s, “lesbians” [WHO WERE KNOWN AS, "queers"] WERE VERY DESTRUCTIVE – THROWING EGGS, SPRAY-PAINTING PROPERTY, ETC.

    • Ken

      @ Ted; Clear, concise and accurate post. I’d add that this behaviour is an assault on masculinity of all men, not just black males…..

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Ken,”

        I AGREE. I FOCUSED ON NEGRO MALES BECAUSE THE ARTICLE STATED THE CAUCASIAN GROUP “MOCKED” THE ELDERLY-NEGRO MALE.

      • Ken

        Thanks OPET; I assumed as much.

    • gypsyj

      OK STOP WITH THE “GAY” THING THESE DEVIOTS ARE NOT HAPPY PEOPLE THEY ARE H O M O S E X U A L S PLEASE DO NOT BASTARDIZE THE WORD GAY FOR US CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE H O M O S E X U A L S like PEDIOPHILES et al…..

    • NC

      Absolutely disgusting behavior. (Attacking the elderly homeless man for reading the Bible.)

      • sam1966

        True that! True that! But this is what happens when sexually perverted lifestyle individuals gather. They are of satan and don’t want to hear the Truth from God. Remember what the Bible says about queers:

        Leviticus 18:22
        Leviticus 20:13
        Romans 1:24-32
        1 Corinthians 6:9-10
        1 Timothy 1:8-11
        Jude 1:7

        These are just some of the passeges dealing with their perverse lifestyle. Many of them lash out at people due to their feelings of depression, guilt, and shame. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “sam1966,”

      PLEASE PROVIDE THE THREAD IN WHICH Bob Livingston MADE THAT COMMENT ABOUT ME; I WOULD LIKE TO READ IT.

      • sam1966

        Please read my apology above Chris Horton. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • Gordon

      Geez, what a whiney bunch of pisspots. I can’t believe I wasted my time reading this junk.

      • sam1966

        Bye! Don’t let the door hit you in the backside on the way out. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • Robert Berger

      Any one who says there is no such thing as homophobia is an idiot. Homophpobia means bigotry against homosexuals ,not just fear of them, which also exists . Homophobia is every bit as real as anti-semitism and racism , and people have been killed because of it .
      Dan Cathy is NOT innocent . He has contributed millions of dollars to vicious hate groups such as “Americans for truth about homosexuality”, the Family Research Council and the American Family Associatrion. All these groups have innocent-sounding names, but they do nothing but foster lies, disinformation and bigotry .
      For an arganization to call itself”Americans for truth about homosexuality” is like Nazis having an organization caled “Germans for truth about Jews and Judaism .”
      I’m not gay myself, but I abhor bigotry against gay people., as all decent and fair-minded people should .
      The FRC is NOT innocent in the case of the disturbed young man who was apprehended with a gun recently . I don’t condone what he did, but it did not happen without a reason . hew vast majority of gays are just ordinary people who mind their own business and bother or threaten no one. Far more children are molested by heterosexuals than homosexuals . Ihave no intention of ever eating at Chick-Fil-A.

      • Samdromeda

        Read The Pink Swastika.

  • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

    How is it not a hate crime when they have their Pride Parades & show Jesus in bondage & Holy Mary in a bikini?…..Face it, Homosexuals & lesbians, there are tens of millions of Americans who feel your way of life is a perversion, an abomination & a violation of Natural & Cosmic Law, and feel it is bad karma for the state, or nation to legitimize it by sanctioning your marriage. Deal with it!! Their whole crusade is one of legitimizing a perversion & calling it normalcy…that’s why they get so offended when others speak the truth about it….deep in their hearts & souls they know it is wrong, like all of us the Law is written in their hearts!!!!!Rather than deal with the hard work of overcoming it, as some have done, most rather bully others into accepting their “alternative lifestyle” as normal & legitimate…many good Christian souls have abandoned their faith on this issue, rather than face their intolerant wrath, & be called a bigot. This is a spiritual issue, not a social one….you will never win the argument by framing it as a social issue!

    • Robert Smith

      Their whole crusade is one of legitimizing a perversion & calling it normalcy…”

      And for the Transsubstanciation mob canabalism is better?

      Rob

    • Karolyn

      Really, why does is bother you so much? Why can’t you just live and let live? If more people ascribed to that simple thing, what a wonderful world it would be.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        We live in America & we all have free will, so I can’t stop someone from acting that way & living that lifestyle…but, as a citizen, I must speak up when our governments, enter in & sanction what I feel is an abomination, that will bring the wrath of God upon us…Cathy is right, the judgment will descend, it is unavoidable! I must speak out when pols like Rahm Emanuel break the law by saying Cathy better not try to open a business here, etc…

        WE live in America & have freedom of speech…if I find their public behavior disgusting, I have a right to speak out!!! They can live anyway they want to, but so can I & that includes speaking out about it!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Why does it bother the homosexuals so much, Karolyn? Why can’t the homosexuals just live and let live? Not everyone is going to agree with them, and pat them on the back. They should just accept it and move on, instead of running around like half-wits, screaming and hollering. What a pathetic bunch of cry babies!

      • Karolyn

        Jay – You do have a point. However, the ones who live quietly never get any recognition. The loudest voices get all the publicity; hence, the stereotyping.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

        Because a man putting his penis in another mans but or mouth isn’t marriage, a women using a plastic or rubber male organ in a women isn’t marriage, can you see at all, your profesionals are as wrong as you are.

        • actual socialist

          And who are you to decide what is or is not marrige? i’ll tel you who you are a arrogant pathitic little man scared of the future

          • NC

            Actual socialist– aren’t YOU a bit arrogant? Thousands of years of recorded human history indicate that marriage is between a man and a women (and in some societies, women) and that homosexuality (which has existed in all societies) is something else. Recorded human history also indicates that societies that tolerated sexual immorality (including but not limited to homsexuality) collapsed.

            As to authorities: Judaism, Christianity and Islam all have scriptures that insist that sex be confined to heterosexual marriage. If you choose to NOT believe one of the books (as I do not believe the Qu’ran after extensive experience with Islam in a Muslim country) that is your choice, but calling someone an “arrogant pathitic little man scared of the future” is an ad hominem attack that avoids the issue.

            Wikipedia: An ad hominem (Latin for “to the man”), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it. Ad hominem reasoning is normally described as a logical fallacy.

          • actual socialist

            Yeah i might be a tad arrogant but at least i,m man enough to admia it and organised religion does not count as authoritiy to me at least

      • sam1966

        That’s the way the enemies of God and this country operate NC. They do not know the truth and are incapable of comprehending it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • NC

      It is a hate crime– but we forget that by definition that a member of a minority group cannot commit a hate crime.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        How right you are ?? Good point!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

        Black are born black, Aisian are born that way, homosexuals decide who they want to be and that is no excuse as a minority, that is bull, I’m Jewish, did I ask to be a part of the most hated race on earth? No but, I live with it and love the fact I’m Jewish, homosexuality is a a choice, period, and that should not have a special right for expression of passions.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          The Jews are NOT A RACE…Jews come in all different races across the planet…

          You can change your religion, but Jews have taken on an ethnic dimension, most I know are not very religious, but revel in their Jewishness…

          You are right, behavior is completely THE CHOICES WE MAKE!!! Homosexuality is simply a choice in behavior. There are some (I don’t think it’s many), who yearn to be free of this perversion, but don’t have enough self-mastery to stop, it’s like a drug addiction.

          • actual socialist

            The only way they can be free is to exept themselves for who they are if you’re gay you’re gay DEAL WITH IT

        • actual socialist

          Exept people convernt every day you DO have a chioce which is more then a homosexual can say

        • NC

          I was referring to the double standard when it comes to black-on-white vs white-on-black crime as well as any negative remarks. White people are assumed to be prejudiced. In this particular context I think Jewish people are assumed to be white people (at least by visual appearance walking down the street) and at any rate are not known for violent crime.

          With regard to being especially hated, the Jewish people is a special case and has been most certainly targeted over the centuries (Inquisition, Pogroms, Holocaust, Palestinians and Iran for starters). I think it has to do with hatred of God Himself. But since God is immortal invisible and non-corporeal, His Chosen People are a more viable target.

          After all, the God-haters would say, “How dare He “choose” a people? That’s totally unfair!!!! Worse still, how DARE He (gasp, faint, dramatic posture) even think He has something to say about my sexual behavior? Sex feels good so I’ll do it whenever, however and with whomever I choose. I’ll simply declare Him non-existent (atheism) and adopt a “scientific” theory to “prove” he didn’t make me (evolution). If He doesn’t exist and didn’t make me, He has nothing to say about what I do.”

          Small problem: He does exist and did make me and does have the right to make the rules (which are designed to keep me from destroying myself, among other things.) Maybe, just maybe, I have to deal with it (repentance and faith).

          • actual socialist

            Prove he made you and the bible is not proof

          • Samdromeda

            The proof is that all life comes from life. There is cause and effect. No effect comes from an uninitiated cause.

          • actual socialist

            That proves human reproduction not chrishtianity

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Benjamin Fox,”

        I DISAGREE. HEBREWS ARE NOT THE MOST HATED PEOPLE – NEGROES ARE; ONE CAN NOT SEE A HEBREW.

        • NC

          Blacks may certainly be more visible than Jews anywhere outside of Africa (where non-blacks are highly visible), but hatred of Jews has a longer history and 6 million holocaust victims is not an insignificant number. However I’m not sure it is valid to compare the sufferings of Jews and African Americans (or any other group)– both have suffered unspeakable injustice.

          If Jews are not a race, what does that mean for Arabs? Both Jews and Arabs are considered Semitic and consider themselves to be descendents of Abraham. What box on a census form to they tick off? I’m guessing (Benjamin Fox, what to you think?) Jews might go the path of least resistance and tick off “white/Caucasian” but I can’t see Arabs doing that. Turks do not consider themselves “Caucasian”– they are Turks. (My Turkish friend’s mother’s family is from the Caucus Mountains, making her the only real (half) Caucasian I know. when you get to the Caucus Mountains, there are again 38 some distinct peoples.)

          Race is a strange concept anyhow, probably an American one. Ethnic groups is more valid, in my opinion. Are Pygmies from Congo (tall = 4ft) and certain tribes from south Sudan (men average 6ft tall or more) the “same race”? They don’t speak the same language and have significant cultural differences, to say nothing of little contact with each other. Hutus and Tutsi’s (Rwanda) certainly considered each other to be a different race and relied on physical differences to identify and exterminate each other. Need I discuss Tribal warfare in Guinea, Senegal, Liberia, Nigeria, Kenya, Sudan and Angola to name a few?

          I am considered “Caucasian” although there is no evidence of any connection with the Caucuses. But then, apparently both grandfathers were drunks and womanizers who deserted my parents when they were small, and we were not allowed to ask any questions about ancestry. Immigrants before the Civil war just adapted and considered themselves “American” and were primarily English and Scots Irish descent. Immigrants after the 1880′s or so tended to congregate in cities and self identified according to where they came from (Italian, Irish, Polish etc.) I think “European” would be a better term than Caucasian.

          What is unique about African Americans is the shared history of slavery in America. Stripped of their own languages and tribal culture, they formed their own, unique perspective.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “OOOOPPert EEEEpert,”

        I AGREE. HEBREWS WANT “SPECIAL STATUS” LIKE THE “gays.” GERMANY MISTREATED HEBREWS; NOT, THE UNITED STATES.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “NC,”

        I HAVE ALREADY HAD THIS DISCUSSION WITH “Jeff,” “truesoy” AND “waltinseattle.” I DO NOT BELIEVE SIX MILLION HEBREWS WERE MURDERED IN THE SO-CALLED, “Holocaust.” GERMANY MISTREATED HEBREWS, NOT THE UNITED STATES. IN THE UNITED STATES, THE “Holocaust” SHOULD BE TREATED AS PROPAGANDA. NO AMERICAN CAN PROVE THE TRUE EXTENT OF ITS EXISTENCE.

      • http://naver samurai

        Chris, sorry but how can you say the Holocaust didn’t happen? Read Mein Kampf, Inside the Thrid Reich, and look at the Auchwitz Camp still standing in Poland. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        NO WRITTEN PROPAGANDA WILL MAKE ME BELIEVE SIX MILLION HEBREWS WERE KILLED IN THE “Holocaust.” IF CAUCASIANS WISH TO BELIEVE, IT IS THEIR PEROGATIVE.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Do you believe that 5 MILLION NON-HEBREWS WERE MURDERED, GASSED, BURNED, BURIED ALIVE? They included Gypsys, Life-savers, & Homosexuals & lesbians, & many other groups!!!

        • actual socialist

          what about the VIDEO and EYE-WITNESS account?

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “OOOOPPert EEEEpert,”

        SIR, I UNDERSTAND CAUCASIANS CARE ABOUT HEBREWS – I DO NOT. SIR, LET US RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE ON THE “HEBREW” ISSUE.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          So, in your mind how many innocent souls did the Nazis murder, by non-military means? Or maybe you think they weren’t innocent? Do you think the Nazis committed crimes against humanity? Or maybe you think “Hebrews & the others” were not real humans?

          My good man, the evidence is overwhelming that the Nazis murdered about 11 million innocent souls throughout Europe, via various methods. If you dispute that, there is no reason to continue the discourse!

    • Robert Berger

      “The Pink Swastika” is pure bunk, and nothing but a smokescreen for homophobic bigotry . If Christians don’t like homosexuality, they should keep their dislike to themselves. As an agnostic non-observant Jew, I despise Christians who are ignorant, narrow-minded, intolerant,self-righteous and sanctimonious busybodies. (By no means all are). I’m not anti-christian . I’m ant Christians who are bigoted jerks .
      I repeat – the vast majority of gays are just ordinary people who mind their own business and bother or threaten nobody . It’s disgusting the way homophobic bigoted scum like Brayn Fischer, Matt Barber, Peter La Barbera, Scott Lively and other right-wing extremist scum are no better than Hitler and the Nazis in the way they stir up mindless fear and hatred of harmless gay people.
      If you are one of those Christians who thinks homosexuality is an abomination, I will tell you that you have a much greater chance of being struck by lightning or killed in a car crash than being harmed by any gay person.
      And if you have young children, they have a much greater chance of beoing molested by a heterosexual than a homosexual .
      Homposexuality is NOT a “choice”. Why would people choose to be gay in a world where they are at constant risk of being discrimated against, bullied, harassed and taunted, being rejected by their parents and even the victims of vicious beatings and murder ?
      Homophobes should learn to mind their own friggin’ business !

      • Samdromeda

        It appears that you have not read The Pink Swastika. It is easy to bunk that which you do not agree with but history cannot be denied.

  • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

    k

  • Ken

    Under their breath they call us “BREEDERS”, a nasty and malicious term they use for heterosexuals….

    Make no mistake about it, they’re false search for their “rights” is nothing more than a veiled attempt at forced indoctrination and forced acceptance of their sickness……

    and they won’t stop until we and all our children are taught to love and accept what they do.

    Against the laws of God and man, against the law of nature itself, homosexuality is an abominable act.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      Homosexuality is more than abominable, it is SATANIC.

      I AM ALPHA & OMEGA…..male & female energies coming together to complement & raise each other up…this is the Divine Blueprint for mankind!

    • 45caliber

      Ken:

      One of the top “gays” made a comment awhile back that sticks in my mind. “I will stop my work when a boy comes home from high school and announces to his parents that he is going to the prom with another boy as his date … and his parents are happy about it.”

      I think that the real problem is that many gays (not even half, though) like some pedophiles is attempting to teach the youth that it is okay to have sex with gays (or “older men”) so that 1) they can have the chance at more partners and 2) they won’t risk facing sexual harrasment charges that hetrosexuals do when they start harassing some poor soul for sex.

      It is like the military – gays were always in the military but they kept quiet about it and others ignored them. Now, with the changes made by politics, they can proposition any other soldier whenever, wherever, and as often as they wish and if the soldier objects, they can insist that the soldier is homophobic and attacking them because they are gay.

      • Ken

        Now you have directly struck the crux of the matter – male pedophiles ARE homosexuals and they DO want to shift the concepts of “right” and “wrong”.

        How do you create a paradigm shift in a society which is so ardently against it?! Start with the children…..once they are indoctrinated the future of ALL SUBSEQUENT generations will take homosexuality as acceptable behaviour.

        They ARE attempting to brainwash our children right now!

        http://www.massresistance.org/media/video/brainwashing.html

        http://www.massresistance.org/media/video/brainwashing.html

      • http://google gary gerke

        True story!!!!!! Why can’t the hiprocrits leave well enough alone!!!!!!!

      • Ken

        @Gary; They have an agenda Gary……that’s why.

      • Karolyn

        A paradigm shift is exactly what this country, and this world, need.

      • 45caliber

        Karolyn:

        THat depends completely upon which one you refer to. Some are good and some are bad. I will agree only if you are refering to a good one. And it has to be realistic. Too many are not.

      • sam1966

        For once I agree with you Karolyn. This country does need to go down a different path. The path of our Christian founding, founding principles, and seeking out God. Let these perverts know that their ways are wrong and that they need to repent of their sins and follow God and Jesus. The leaders of these perverted groups believe in this:

        “…to attain a serious end it behooves not to stop at any means or count the victims sacrificed for the sake of that end.”

        Protocol 15:
        The Wise Elders of Zion

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          sammy boy i have proof positive that thomas jefferson supported the seperation of church and state

      • sam1966

        Since the words separation, church, or state do not appear in the 1st Amendment of the Constitution, you have no proof at all. The letter he wrote to a group of bishops in Connecticut, he just merely quoted the 1st Amendment.

        “Congress shall make no law regarding the establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof….”

        1st Amendment

        If he believed, as you say, then why would he help to turn the Capitol Building into a church on Sundays starting in September 1800?

        Why would he pass the Enabling Acts of 1803?

        Why would he take the first sentence out of Article 11 when the Treaty of Tripoli was rewritten in 1802-1803?

        Why would he use federal funds to send missionaries to the Aniscondi (sp) Indians, Christianize them, and them use more funds to build them a church?

        “And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath?”

        Thomas Jefferson

        “The Christian religion is the best religion that has ever been given to man.”

        Jefferson Memorial

        There are just so many more to prove you wrong. But alas! I feel compelled to have your less intelligent mind try to prove me wrong. No secular or revisionist sites.

        “The doctrines of Jesus are simple, and tend all to the happiness of man.”

        “The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He (GOD) has taken care to impress its precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses.”

        I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others.”

        “I am a real Christian-that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus.”

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          Do yourself a favor go on google type in. thomas jefferson wall of seperation letter educate yourself a little

      • sam1966

        Here are some more AS:

        “I concur with the author in considering the moral precepts of Jesus as more pure, correct, and sublime than those of ancient philosophers.”

        “Almighty God, Who has given us this good land for our heritage; We humbly beseech Thee that we may always prove ourselves a people mindful of Thy favor and glad to do Thy will. Bless our land with honorable ministry, sound learning, and pure manners.”

        “I do issue this my proclamation, hereby appointing Thursday a day of public and solemn thanksgiving and prayer to Almighty God earnestly recommending to all the good people to set apart the said day for those purposes.”

        Thomas Jefferson
        November 11, 1779

        “Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as pure as they came from his lips, the whole civilized world would now have been Christian.”

        Jefferson letter to B. Waterhouse.

        “The doctrines of Jesus are simple and tend to all the happiness of man.
        1. There is only one God and He is all perfect.
        2. That there is a future state of rewards and punishments.
        3. That to love God with all thy heart and thy neighbor as thyself is the sum of religion.”

        Jefferson letter to Benjamin Waterhouse June 26, 1822

        “I have always said, and will always say, that studious perusal of the sacred volume (THE BIBLE) will make us better citizens.”

        Here is even a copy of the Jefferson Bible
        http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/17/thomas-jefferson-revolutionary-bible-reissued

        These are just some of the few I have to prove you wrong. But alas! Proving you wrong has been easy. Don’t forget this also.

        “It is a misleading metaphor and it should be abandoned, as it is not Constitutional Law.”

        Chief Justice William Rehnquist on separation of church and state.

        I invite you to try to prove me wrong, but you must state sources. No sources means you lie. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          He also said that religion was between man and his god his meaning theone he chooses to worship now that can,t work if one religion is allowed to force it,s views down the others troughts Mr Jefferson fought for rights for ALL religions and even athiests. look it up

      • sam1966

        You are part right AS, as he did mean between man and his God. But the God he was describing was the Lord God Almighty, not any other. You said even atheists? Since atheists were looked down upon in their days, I doubt what you say about them. You said for me to look it up? There may be no rules or laws saying you must cite your source, but it is a common curtesy and common sense for someone to do so in their postings. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          He meant the god the man CHOOSES to worship because unlike you he realized chioce is the greatest freedom and for a scourse i would suggest a jefferson biography

    • Karolyn

      Again, painting all with same same brush. I have never heard a gay person using that term.

      • 45caliber

        I have.

      • NC

        We need to be careful about painting all of ANY group with the same brush. I know a lot of gay people and they encompass the entire range of racial and socioeconomic groups, as if naming these groups could possibly further define the person. Each one is as unique as a member of any other group is unique.

        A lot of people do a lot of things that “I” do not approve of. This does not prevent me from loving or liking them. I generally like people. Nor are other people dependent on my approval, although certain homosexual activists seem to believe that society should accept what they do and in a sense are trying to force me to approve of what they do.

        I’m not gay and do believe homosexuality (as well as ANY sex outside of monogamous heterosexual marriage) is sin. Having said that, a lot of other things (like hate) are sin and rebellion against God who made us and focusing on the rebellious attitude is more important than the specific act. God will punish sin and did punish sin when Jesus died on the cross. However His hope is that we will come to Him and find that he loves us, and find repentance to be a good and joyous thing.

      • Karolyn

        Thank you NC for that thoughtful post.

      • Ken

        It seems like you live a sheltered life. Not only that – such conversation is extremely private and guarded in this “community” and rarely if ever heard by an outsider. An arrogant lesbian I once worked with exposed me to her beliefs and hatred of men ……especially masculine men.

        We do need a paradigm shift…..in the opposite direction in which we have been headed.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

        Mr. Socialist, your a idiot, hasn’t worked anywhere on earth, one difference, socialist are only that until they have the guns then they are commie’s, can’t fight back, you guys don’t have a clue accept you love the hand outs, the don’t work and get what everyone else does, your a joke, like Canada and the other socialist nations that use to come here for health care, no longer, so I guess you die, idiot.

        • actual socialist

          Works in cuba,venazuala,vietnam,laos,bolivia,china and if you think socialism is waiting for a handout then the only idiot here is you

          • NC

            Please explain what “Works in cuba,venazuala,vietnam,laos,bolivia,china” and how it works. Venezuela used to have a vibrant economy but that’s down the tubes. Cuba is dirt poor and a giant prison camp. Bolivia’s economy depends on smuggling cocaine to us. Vietnam and Laos are struggling at the best and China’s economy picked up after adopting a capitalist model though they don’t call it that, of course.

            “the only idiot here is you” is and ad hominem attack, which I explained in a previous post.

          • actual socialist

            Cubans have the legal right to fre healthcare,free education,affordable housing,a well paying job among other things i don,t know about you but i,d say that is a working system

          • NC

            Good paying job??? In Cuba??? Well, maybe if you’re a higher up in the communist party. Just ask the thousands of Cubans who got on boats and reached Miami. Healthcare might be “free” but it’s rather primitive–little access to the advanced technology we have. You’re 19. I remember when Castro over threw Bautista, a rather mean dictator, and became a mean dictator himself, and the Cuban Missile Crisis when JFK stood up the the Soviets who were trying to install missiles a mere 90 miles from Florida. Your grandmother would have been young then.

          • actual socialist

            All wages in cuba are equal you would know that if you went somewhere besides fox for information on cuba here,s something else you probably did,nt know even after the soviet union collapsed and cuba lost 90% of it,s foriegn aid ther was NO food shortage because the econamy is built aroung the peoples needs not making the most money

          • NC

            Equal wages = equally low. And incarceration if you criticize Castro. No freedom. Discussing stuff on a blog like this would be out of the question. By the way, I don’t watch TV–Fox or anything else. Too time intensive for the little bit of distorted news it gives you.

          • actual socialist

            There,s the problem you’re just to lazy to talk to people who have been there RECENTLY

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

      I grew up in a homosexual neighborhood, they were always trying to lure someone into sex with them, call them what you will but, un-natural sex, period, preverts who are lead by satan.

      • actual socialist

        And in a ” straight ” nieghberhood boys always try to lure girls to have sex with them same thing deal with it

  • Brian

    Worthless pieces of dog excrement. That man was minding his own business. Those people. Are such huge idiots theyi don’t even understand how damaging they are to their cause. Hypocrites one and all. It’s time for a revolution and knock this inhuman slime back into the gutter from which it crawled. If you don’t like what I am saying.. Come knock on my door and we will have a conversation in person.. My boot on your neck and my rifle pointed at your head!! I am mad as h@ll, and sickened by these actions of the “peaceful and tolerant people”. They need to link hands with the members of the religion of peace. Idiots and fools one and all.

    • 45caliber

      Brian:

      If they did “link hands with those of the religion of peace” (Islam), they wouldn’t be around all that long. Those religious people there are horrified at the idea of being contaminated by gays and would react somewhat non-peacefully about it.

      (Personally, I think all those Islamic fundamentalists have problems with their masculinity since they are so fearful of any woman who might disagree with them. Many are certainly pedophiles.)

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        Did you know that there is deeply entrenched homosexual pedophilia amongst many Afghan tribes? They justify it by saying women are dirty & worthless, & since there is no love involved with the boys, it is just a way to satisfy carnal urges & is in line with their version of Sharia, many of the tribal elders have a harem of young boys ….this is a dirty little secret…our Pentagon & State Dept. have said nothing about it..throw that in with our propping up of Karzai & his corrupt family of opium growers, America is making big time Karma there!!!

      • 45caliber

        OOOOPP:

        It doesn’t surprise me. I’ve found it common in many places. But – like most prisoners in the pen in the US – I’m sure they don’t consider themselves as homosexual. If anything, the gay person is the one they have sex with but never them.

      • Peter

        Actually Mohamed was a rampant pedophile. He ‘married’ Aisha when she was 6 years old and he was 54!
        Mind you, he did do ‘the right thing’ and waited until she was 9 before doing the old heave-ho.

        • NC

          Aisha was the daughter of Abu Bakir, who insisted that Muhammed take his daughter. Abu Bakir later became a Caliph, but I’m “sure” there was no nepotism involved.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

        The Taliban was mad because the U.S. took away their little boys, that is a fact.

    • Karolyn

      Yes, they do damage their own cause, and I’m sure a great many gays would say the same thing about them.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

        Not when they dress like idiot’s portrait anything they don’t like in a obsese way? I guess my compassion goes out to those who see their sins and confess them and ask God to forgive them, if not they are saying God was a homosexual? He said He created us in His image, wow, I wouldn’t go there, no matter how liberial I was.

  • Brian

    Here in Colorado. Lots of tolerant, enlightened, peaceful progressives have bumper stickers that say “respect life”. These are most likely I the same idiots. I say respect life that deserves respect.. Not all lives are worth respecting.. Especially when they the treat others with such a lack of respect.. Ditto for the coexist bumper sticker people.. Try it yourself first. Or shut up!!

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      Do they “respect” the innocent life in the womb?

      • sam1966

        No they do not. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • 45caliber

      Brian:

      Respect life? Or lifestyle?

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

      I too live in Colorado, Denver as a matter of fact and it has been immoral for years, I’m pro-life, for those without a choice because someone couldn’t keep they legs crossed or a zipper that couldn’t stay closed, that is choice? To who, the immoral, the little gods?

  • eddie47d

    I can’t tell who is worse the screamers and “chalk artists” at the Chic-Fil-A or the screamers on this site spreading misinformation and false indoctrination. Hate in itself is an abominable act and both sides seem to relish it.

    • Ken

      Hate is abominable – standing for what’s right against the hordes of liars, pedophiles and sexual deviants? a societal necessity and a calling to all who would call themselves true Americans.

      • 45caliber

        Hate is an extreme feeling. It focuses all thoughts on destruction of the hated person or thing. It is cold and dark and destroys the person who hates as much as it does the one hated. Unlike eddie and other libs, I don’t hate at all. At most, I feel a lot of contempt for them but certainly not hate.

      • Karolyn

        Oh, please. Just what does your homophobia accomplish other than exacerbating the anger and hatred already so prevalent in this world?

      • eddie47d

        I confess Caliber I do hate most extremists of any persuasions who’s actions cause harm to others. Now you can be an oddball but I don’t hate you. I don’t hate gays,Christians,Muslims,Sikhs,blacks,browns, Chinese,conservatives,liberals,progressives,women or one legged midgets. I don’t like racists,warmongers,Banksters and a few other divisive people.. Any other questions?

      • APN

        Well Eddie, how about your pet sheep?

      • Karolyn

        APN – There you are; the prerequisite juvenile.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      We are all God’s Sons & Daughters (PSALM 82:6)…some are lost right now….never hate the sinner..you are right…but, citizens must speak out against the cultural decadency & the judgment Cathy was right about, that is descending upon us…Sodom & Gomorrah was no fairy tale, spiritually adept souls can read the akashic records & it did happen & there is a redux taking place in America right now!! Read the omens: Shortly after the Governor of NY, via extortion, shoved homosexual marriage through in NY state, there was an earthquake in Washington area, (which also legalized it), put a crack in the Capital Dome, & was felt in NYC, the hub of homosexual approval on east coast..then came the hurricane up the east coast, first in over 25 years, but instead of going out to sea as it usually does, it picked up steam & hit Vermont & New Hampshire, which also legalized it, those 2 states have never endured a hurricane..petered out when it got to Maine, which voted it down…coincidences? I think not, the spirit of God is trying to tell us something!! All 32 times the people have had a direct vote on homosexual marriage, they voted it down, but it is getting closer & closer, because of the brainwashing of our youth by the hollywood crowd, the madison ave. crowd & the public schools.

      • Maryland Freestater

        If you’re referring to the ‘earthquake’ last fall (Aug. 2011) – I am starting to believe it was NOT an earthquake. More like a nuclear blast of some sort underground.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          That conspiracy theory I’ve never heard…although, nothing would surprise me. The hurricanes were real, not the worst kinds but real nonetheless, and in New England for 1st time.

    • daniel

      Hey eddie you ever figure that we are sick and tired of having “tolerance” pushed down our throats by the most intolerant people in the world? It used to be tolerance was live and let live. Now that is called negative tolerance. What is demanded is positive tolerance that says we are supposed to encourage and embrace behaviour we do not agree with.
      If Mr. Cathy or I cannot express ourselves in a decent manner without being castigated and villified for it then how can one expect any less a reaction. Since Baptists are pretty much a fundamental Christian group what in the world were gays listening in oe watching for? They do not back the homosexual agenda so the only reason I can see is that they were looking for trouble and they got it in aces.
      If you would like I willl paste a copy of the Gay Manifesto for you to read. Then you can use that to decide where the hate and the threat is. The news for you is that they are not the peace loving victims they want you to believe.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        It’s funny, wasn’t Obama a hater then, until a few months ago, when his “EVOLUTION” on the issue was complete?

        How can anyone who professes to be a Christian, have to “evolve” on it anyway? How can churches ordain homosexual bishops? How can someone who professes to be a Christian, sit for over 20 years listening to the Wrong Rev. Wright spew his racial vitriol?

        Obama is as much of a Christian as Charles Manson

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

      Eddie47d, you have no hate, yet you sound like a person who has taken sides, the immoral over the moral, that is a choice I would say, being netural is not being un-hateful, sorry, you make choices, some are right and some are wrong but, no fense sitting when it comes to morals.

  • R.Marcel Comtois

    All I have to say is….it is obvious to me that our designs – men vs women – tell the whole story ……..never mind anything else, even the bible in this case……that men were designed to be with women and women with men…….maybe it’s just that some people have nothing else good to do but protest about something……..

    • Ken

      OR as wrong and as sick as they are they do whatever they can to turn the tide of truth in their favor by any means possible:

      Lies, Deceit, Misinformation…..

    • 45caliber

      I don’t think of it as protests as much as trying to lie to themselves about what is good. They KNOW what they are doing is wrong on all levels but won’t admit it and change. Therefore they try to drown out their own doubts but insisting what they do is right.

      It is only accented by their live life. A hetrosexual seldom has more than half a dozen lovers throughout life and usually will contentedly settle down with one mate for most of it. A homosexual has an AVERAGE of over a thousand lovers because they simply cannot find anyone whom they can settle down contentedly with – and they know it. As CHRISTOPHER said above, they will be lucky to remain married, when they do marry, for more than three years. I think they want to insist upon marriage as hetrosexuals have it, primarily because they hope that act will give them contentment that their gay lifestyle doesn’t give them.

      • Ken

        This may be part of the interest in the “marriage” conversation 45C, however it seems there is a lot more to be considered. This conversation has several layers to it – my hat’s off to you for giving these people some credit for their own humanity – as far as many Americans are concerned, their just a group of men who’ve lost their manhood and true gender identity.

      • Karolyn

        45: “A hetrosexual seldom has more than half a dozen lovers throughout life and usually will contentedly settle down with one mate for most of it. ” You know this how? I’ve known many gays and lesbians who have been together a very long time. Also, once again, there is a huge difference between males and females in homosexuality just as in heterosexuality.

      • 45caliber

        Karolyn:

        I know of several homosexuals who seldom have many lovers too. But the figures come from one of the groups that study such things. Can’t remember which one. And you left out the word “average”. That’s the word they used. I also know some gays who seem to have a different lover ever day and I suspect you do too.

      • eddie47d

        Would that bother you Caliber if Karolyn had more than one lover and is that really for you to know. We could say you have sex with a vacuum cleaner and assume its true if that is all it takes in accusing someone.

      • Karolyn

        And here I thought you were above saying things like that, 45.

  • http://davestheology.wordpress.com davestheology

    Leaving the Biblical argument to the side for the moment [which I fully agree with by the way], one cannot justify the homosexual/lesbian pride movement biologically, anthropologically, or psychologically.
    Psychologically, until the mid-1970s, homosexuality was defined by the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic Manual as abnormal sexual behavior. The removal of this categorization was based on politics as a significant portion of practicing psychiatrists were closeted gays. [Of course psychiatrists are also quacks posing as medical practitioners but that is a subject for another debate elsewhere.]
    Biologically, in terms of simple Darwinian philosophy, homosexuality/lesbianism is a dead end. Without modern technologies of in vitro fertilization and artificial insemination, homosexuals and lesbians cannot reproduce. Although they claim the behavior is genetically determined, they cannot produce any form of peer-reviewed, replicable research to support the contention. Moreover such claims beg the issue when shown evidence of identical twins where one twin is homosexual/lesbian, and the other twin is straight.
    Even if it can be proven that homosexuality has a genetic component, the distribution of the traits in the society as a whole would show such to be a mutation and therefore it would be recessive and therefore detrimental to the species to allow for selective breeding to encourage its propagation.
    Even semantically, prior to the mid 1990s, members of the homosexual/lesbian crowd referred to their behavior as a “lifestyle” or “sexual preference.” The switch to the current term “sexual orientation” was deliberately done to obfuscate the fact that how one displays sexual behavior, according to all the case studies, is conditioned, not innate.
    Anthropologically, the only cultures which were tolerant/permissive towards homosexuality ceased to exist over 2,000 years ago–ANCIENT Greece, Babylon, Canaan–all subjugated by cultures which took advantage of the decadence and rot brought on by the prevalence of homosexuality. Even in Ancient Greece, homosexuality, while openly practiced, was considered to be a sign of moral corruption, and practitioners were believed to be mentally defective according to Aristotle and Plato.
    It is interesting to note that even in such so-called “enlightened” sexual cultures as the Netherlands, Denmark, and Sweden, there is no push towards the affrontery of “gay marriage.”

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      You have identified the seminal ,moment when it all changed in the late 70′s via Pscyh Manual…they called it a “SOCIAL CONDITION”…no one to my knowledge has ever explained what that is!!! Does it mean that if a straight guy goes into a homosexual bar one night, they might become homosexual?

      The dark forces on earth, the Fallen Angels, the Nephilim, the Watchers, The Laggards & their inbred generations, hate LIFE & LIGHT, the less of it the better , the more miserable, the more suffering in the lives that exist, the better…by legitimizing homosexuality, they try to control population growth & spread disease!!!

    • Ken

      @davestheology; Well written Dave; May I have permission to copy and use your material and qote you elsewhere?

      Ken

      • http://davestheology.wordpress.com davestheology

        Sure!

    • Ken

      Thanks for the insights Dave – I’ll simply put them into my own words.
      Ken

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

      Good comment, Greece, Rome and other countries have fallen, history correctly read and written proves that point, it’s a down fall of all nations that decide it is okay. We are next and wouldn’t want to be with those who decide it is okay, a hot climate and no water?

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        Cathy is right, if the state keeps sanctioning this madness, this darkness, the Judgment is unavoidable…It is Cosmic Law.

        • actual socialist

          It,s not madness quite the opposite it,s the unstoppable momentum of historey leaving you dinosaurs in the past where you belong

      • sam1966

        I see AS is up to his/her usual nonsense again. Care to cite a source showing where history is turning this way or has ever really supported this repulsive lifestyle? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          see prievious message

      • http://naver samurai

        No answer from AS. Typical. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • 4204life

    Isn’t it interesting how the corporate whore (P)erception (C)ontrol (P)ukes paint the homosexuals as victims, and those who abide by natural law as haters? Also, I find it interesting that the Southern Poverty Law Center is the self appointed authority on hate crime. If one objectively thinks about it, all violent criminal acts fall under the category of hate. The homosexuals and their hetrosexual sycophants are unwittingly playing a role for the wealthy(through deceptive means) globalists hell bent on full spectrum dominance. We have to educate as many people as possible to get the populace to focus our fury on the globalist and quit getting caught up in their divide and conquer tactics.

    • 45caliber

      Keep in mind that a “hate crime” is not necessarily a crime. It is a type of thought control. Everyone should have the right to think what they wish – but those who push “hate crime” insist that no one should be allowed to think that way. No actual action or crime is required to be guilty of “hate crime”. Like many other things now being pushed by liberal groups (and a few conservative ones) it is simply a way to “control” the people. If someone does commit an actual crime (murder, whatever) trying to punish the criminal for “hate” as well as the crime is difficult and may actually get a jury to free the criminal. After all, it is easy to prove a crime but it is difficult to prove what the person felt at the time he committed the crime. At best, the prosecutor can only guess at what the criminal felt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/martha.benton.3 Martha Benton

    America today is a repeat performance of Sodom and Gomorrah, and we know what God did to them. Those people were warned too, but they ignored it. And I think the ones that claim to be Christians and defend them saying “God loves everybody” will be damned just as well. God does love everybody, but he also expects his rules to be followed, and it is clearly stated throughout the Bible that homosexuality is a damnable sin. I truly believe that God’s patience is wearing very thin as sinful as this whole world has become.

    • 45caliber

      Martha:

      You can love all people – but you don’t have to like them very much. Further, the Bible tells us many times to avoid sinning. Every time that Jesus forgave someone’s sins, he would also say, “Go and sin no more.” All those insisting that Jesus loves them despite their sins – and we should do the same – seem to forget that. Christians are instructed to avoid sinners who won’t repent and to send away those who refuse to give up their sins that might affect Christians. No where does it state that Christians must forgive sins (not our job) and accept sinners as equals before God.

      Jesus also stated that he was here to judge the sinners, not automatically accept them into heaven regardless of what sins they commit – particularly after they profess to accept Christ as their Savior. These same people seem to forget that one too. Unfortunately some of the Christians feel the same way without understanding and these people feed upon those. And too many people profess to be Christians when their actions show that they aren’t. Many even profess to be Christians when they openly admit they won’t and don’t worship Jesus or the God of the Bible.

      At best, we can only avoid them and pray for them to find the real God.

      • Samdromeda

        Heaven is not the place of acceptance. Earth will become the headquarters of the universe. Heaven was not promised to mankind.

  • jim

    This fight is not about what man said, but what GOD says. The homosexuals are mad and riling at GOD not the man. Just like the homosexuals who were mad at Sodom and Gomoorrah. You heard the dude with the beard saying that he hated the GOD of the Bible. Hopefully he will repent of that and be forgiven. We have not seen anything yet and if Obozo gets reelected then he will unleash the evil upon us all. GOD save us from the evil one.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      He hates the God of the Bible, because he knows in his heart & soul, his “lifestyle” is a sin, a transgression against the Light, but rather than confront that & try to change, it’s easier to bully everyone else into sanctifying your sickness!!!

      • 45caliber

        Correct. And I think he (and they) hope that by forcing us to accept what they do as “normal” then God will be forced to accept it too.

        As one told me one time, “My soul belongs to God – but my body and what I do here on Earth belong to me.”

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          The homosexuals are sick souls, but the worst are their enablers & the dark forces that are trying to create legitimacy & so-called equality, emboldening them to go further & further away from the Light, and drag everyone along with them.

          45Caliber, you probably will not like me saying this, but I’m a Christian that believes in reincarnation & karma…there is very credible evidence that this was taken out of the Bible, (Council of Nicea)… Saint Francis preached about reembodiment in the public square all the time…In the writings of the Essenes, they talk about it & there are still vestiges of the Bible where one can discern it…The key to understanding life is Karma, Free Will & Reincarnation…in one of their embodiments, the homosexuals, (not created by God), but of their own Free Will choice, turned towards this darkness & now have a momentum on it,… one of the worst things about what is going on in America & the world regarding the legitimizing of it as normal, is that these souls will not go within, have deep introspection & wrestle with themselves over it, but just say, “Hey, the world, the doctors, teachers, pols all says it’s Ok, so it must be.”….There is a reason why souls used to stay in the closet…without this soul introspection, the perverted cycles will continue.

          Also, if you accept Reincarnation, Free Will & Karma, you can easily argue no way in Hell, did God create them that way. Since God is Perfection, we were all created that way in our first embodiments, it is our misuse of the Sacred Energies of the Divine, by our wrong Free Will choices that creates the diseases, darkness, etc….that we carry from lifetime to lifetime. It is not easy to overcome them & make our Ascensions, but there is Mercy, beyond Mercy bestowed upon mankind, many chances and if the heart & soul yearn for Purity, they will sooner or later be restored!

          SEE: “THE TEACHINGS OF THE ASCENDED MASTERS”

      • 45caliber

        OOOOPP:

        I know some of what was disallowed at Nicea – and reincarnation was one. They disallowed anything that they couldn’t tie back to the Jesus that had developed after his death and reincarnation was one. I can understand if some reincarnation is allowed – by God – but only in special cases for His reasons. I’ve scanned some of the books they left out at Nicea – and I agree they shouldn’t even be in there. (Come on! Mary takes a step when she is a child and flowers bloom where she touched the ground – even in the dead of winter? The Bible is supposed to be factual!) I’ve also scanned the Book of Thomas – which makes little sense beyond his argument that he was the favorite of Jesus (an argument among the apostles). I’ve not yet seen the Book of Judas but I’m watching for it.

        Karma I don’t believe at all. If it existed, I’d have to be able to win the lotto soon since I’ve had so many set backs during my lifetime. Just in the last year my wife and I have been in the hospital four times for odd reasons, had all major appliances go out – one less than a year old, had several truck problems, a well go out (not our of water but the casing was kinked), and a few dozen other problems. The costs are phenominal. It would take a lotto win just to catch up – and I don’t believe that will happen. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that it was initially a part of the religious papers before Nicea and after Jesus – it was popular in the India area just as reincarnation is.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Actually, of all I said, most Christians understand karma the best…it is simply, “You reap what you sow.”…..the thing is, besides actions, & debts to certain parts of life one brings all their psychology with them as well into next embodiment. (see; Homosexuals). On one level, there is no injustice anywhere in the universe, since all will be balanced in the end.

          If one thinks about it logically, one lifetime makes no sense…For, if we accept God as being all Goodness, Beauty, Truth, Righteousness, Justice, etc. etc, all the great & good qualities,.and most of all, Perfection & we were created in his Divine Image, then how could babies be born with Leukemia, siamese twins, all kinds of distortions & diseases? How could some people be born intelligent, others dumb or retarded, etc, some handsome, others ugly as sin…It’s almost as if it looks like God just rolls the dice…that is not a God that I want to believe in!! What makes us Divine,makes us co-creators with God is Free Will…what we do with it determines all.

      • 45caliber

        OOOOPP:

        I think we have a different definition of karma. I use the India(n) version – when you have bad (or good) luck you will have an equal amount of good (or bad) luck. (That’s why some group there goes around doing bad things to people – they want to give them lots of good luck – at least that’s what they say.)

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          That to me, is a perversion of karma….many of these Asian societies love the Christian missionaries, because they help the poor & sick, whereas, the Buddhists or Hindus mistakenly feel, it is their karma, so we don’t have to help, which is a perversion of these religions….It is like the Bible story of the Tower of Siloam, when they asked Jesus if it fell on the people because they were sinning, and he said, yes, but all are sinners,meaning it was their time to face their karma…sooner or later the Cosmic Bill Collector will call…it might be this lifetime, or the next or the one after that…Ever see a person go to jail for a rape they did not commit? Odds are they got away with it in previous life, a child gets abused sexually? Odds are they were abusers in past life…this does not mean the abuser is doing God’s Will, but somehow, it all works out, we can’t know the mind of God

          I firmly believe 9/11 was a karmic return upon this nation for legalized abortion, as approximately the same of amount of people were murdered that day, as there are aborted everyday. This does not mean Bin Laden & his cronies were doing God’s Will…any nation that allows the murder of the Holy Innocents of God is doomed…on top of that we now have same-sex marriage…nations have souls like individuals & the karma will descend justly upon them as well.

      • 45caliber

        OOOOPP:

        As far as baby problems go, I believe that babies have problems not as a punishment or problem for the baby but as a way to test and strengthen the parents and family. And this is one of the few times I believe in reincarnation. I believe that God will take the soul of a baby that dies and allow it to be born again to fulfill its role as a human.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          I’ve heard that argument & i just can’t buy it…I do not believe God creates suffering at all….we create it.

      • Karolyn

        I do agree with you there. We create everything in our lives but not on a conscious level.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          There is a conscious, subconscious, unconscious & Superconscious (our higher selves), we create on all of them

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

        Amen and amen.

  • s c

    Grow up and get used to it, sheeple. Anything that’s stenchified via politics will turn to crap. Anything Uncle Scam does to ‘help’ those who claim to be a victim is inherently flawed and corrupt. If the pink herd can’t find a reason to do business with Chick-fil-A, then let them go SOMEWHERE ELSE. WHY take something that’s simple and make it complex?
    Use what’s left of that rotting peanut butter between your ears. Amerika is imploding, and YOU dare to think that a chicken sandwich is more important than AMERIKA? No wonder we are infested with so many LOSERS.

    • 45caliber

      sc:

      I agree. If they want to boycott Chick-fil-a, then go ahead. I’m sure the owner won’t mind. (Particularly since I doubt if it would affect his business at all.) But why try to mess it up for the rest of us? I think the real problem is that they want to mess up everything for the rest of us if we won’t them be in charge. “If you won’t let me be team captain, I’m going to take my ball and go home!”

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

      Your the loser, chicken no, moral yes, can’t see it? Get you head out of where the sun don’t shine.

  • sabulaman

    Sickness is correct. Homoism is a mental illness.

  • winstonsmith6079

    Did you happen to notice that the grinning fellow, center screen, in the dark blue striped shirt, is holding a Chic-fil-a cup? What’s the word, here “HYPOCRITE”?

    • NC

      In several places Chick-Fil-A was handing out water and lemonade to the protesters. Glad the guy accepted their hospitality.

    • NC

      Forgot to say Romans 11:20 if you enemy is thirsty, give him something to drink..”

  • winstonsmith6079

    IF homosexuality is so natural and normal why do so many practitioners act in such a broad, even farcical, parody of feminine behavior?

    • 45caliber

      I’ve wondered that myself.

    • NC

      Interesting that Homosexuals take on feminine and masculine roles and appearance in the relationship. It’s like an affirmation that “male and female made He (God) them.”

      • Karolyn

        That is not true in all cases

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “NC,”

        THAT IS PART OF A SEXUAL FANTASY COMMON AMONG MALE HOMOSEXUALS.

        “My man takes care of me, baby. He is strong and has muscles everywhere! When he comes home from a hard day’s work, I take his shoes off, prop his feet up, massage his feet and have a hot dinner waiting for him on the stove. I take care of my man, baby!”

        A COMMON SENTIMENT EXPRESSED BY EFFEMINATE-MALE HOMOSEXUALS.

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “winstonsmith6079,”

      MALE HOMOSEXUALS ACT EFFEMINATELY BECAUSE IN SCHOOL THEIR ONLY FRIENDS WERE FEMALES. THESE MALE HOMOSEXUALS ACQUIRED THE HABITS OF THEIR FEMALE FRIENDS. MALE HOMOSEXUALS DO NOT HAVE A NON-SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER MALES UNTIL AFTER REACHING ADULTHOOD. BY THAT TIME, THEIR EFFEMINATE BEHAVIOR IS WELL-ENTRENCHED.

  • APN

    Gays need to learn to practice what they preach, that simple. Biggest bunch of hypocrites on the planet.

    Boycott Chick-fil-a , please!!!! That only means It will take me less time to get my favorite chicken sandwich. I have no problem with the Gay’s boycott outside of that fact that protesting on-site is disrupting a legitimate business and preventing me from getting my meal.

    I personally have several pro-gay businesses that I do not patronize, that simple! However, the difference is, I don’t go there and disrupt their business and prevent you from getting your meal. I think it’s called PERSONAL choice in a free country.

    Tolerance goes both ways people and it’s time you practice what you preach. Those who oppose the Gay lifestyle will not be brow beating to accept your immoral behaviors.

    Bottom line, eat where you want to eat and keep your mouth shut about your perverted sexual habits. We don’t want to see it, we don’t want our children to be exposed to it and you are darn sure not big enough to make us accept it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

      K, what does your wife say about your comments?

  • Ken

    Now you have directly struck the crux of the matter – male pedophiles ARE homosexuals and they DO want to shift the concepts of “right” and “wrong”.

    How do you create a paradigm shift in a society which is so ardently against it?! Start with the children…..once they are indoctrinated the future of ALL SUBSEQUENT generations will take homosexuality as acceptable behaviour.

    They ARE attempting to brainwash our children right now.

    http://www.massresistance.org/media/video/brainwashing.html

    http://www.massresistance.org/media/video/brainwashing.html

    • Karolyn

      Not all pedophiles like boys, and not all gays are pedophiles.

      • 45caliber

        True. But all male pedophiles who like boys ARE gay by definition.

      • Karolyn

        Well, they might disagree with that, many also being married and having kids.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

        Karolyn that is bull dung, they recruit as much as possible need more in their life style to make it right, your either dumb or blind or just full of it but, your brain is so lost I hope you find it before you die, it is important to where you spend eternity, right now your headed to a very hot spot and suntan oil won’t help.

      • APN

        Un-Hoh! Keep Keep kidding yourself Karolyn!! you can’t possible be that foolish? We”ll maybe ???

  • gunner689AI

    What do you expect from people who believe that sticking your manhood in an orfice another man defecates from is normal behavior. There just surprzed to learn that chickens are used for something other than sex toys.

    PC is BS

  • Fedup!

    I can’t wait until a christian proves just how much he/she also believes in self defense. Some of these fruity men especially need a good kick in the @$$!!!!!!!!! Big F-ing CRY BABIES!!! SOMONE CALL THE WAMBULANCE FOR THESE PHSYCO’S! No proof whatsoever you are born that way. Guess what, you made the wrong (CHOICE) Stop pulling the rest of the world down with you. WE WON’T GO!

    • Karolyn

      No proof they aren’t born that way either, although there are some very intresting theories that they are born that way, like the mother having an overabundance of female chromosomes and an underabundance of male; and vice versa for lesbians.

      • Ken

        This comment is pure conjecture and has no basis in fact. It could also be stated (hypothetically) that the estrogenic hormones in soy formula, infant and adult processed foods, BPH plastics (which also mimic estrogen’s within the body) are at-cause for the dramatic rise in feminine behaviour in men.

        • NC

          Actually the estrogen idea has some logical viability–far too much of it in our food supply. Somebody ought to study it, however I’m sure the soy and plastic industries would oppose it and someone has to pay for studies like that.

          There are one or two small studies (25 subjects in the study), greatly over-hyped in the media, that “suggest” a “correlation” between homosexuality and a specific gene. A correlation simple means that two conditions exist at the same time and may be related. Sometimes there is a cause effect relationship, or both may be the result of a different cause, or they may simply happen at the same time and be unrelated. Nonetheless these studies have be touted as “proof” the homosexuality is “genetic.”

          While I know some transgendered males who have felt like a girl since early childhood, I still tend to look for psychosocial causes–type of attachment to the parent (especially the mother) as eloquently explained by Jay. Many of the gay men I know have been sexually abused, but my sample is skewed as I am a therapist interacting with people whose troubles bring them in for therapy.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

        Karolyn, God is gay, He is a homosexual? Must be according to your godhood, you know better then Him? God created us in His image, body, soul and spirit, created Adam and Eve, not adam and steve, or Eve and Ivy or what ever name, you so smart, tell God what He can and can’t do, and we worship you, LOL

        • actual socialist

          He created adam in his image he created eve in his wifes image

      • sam1966

        Care to cite a source showing about a wife in heaven AS? God has no wife, but he does have a son (JESUS), angels, and devoted believers. We are all created in God’s image, women included. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          It,s my mothers theory and i think it make sence in a way not to someone as closedminded as you of course but to a normal person

      • sam1966

        Then both you and your mother need to get back to church AS. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        P.S The bride you are talking about is the church and nothing else.

  • FreedomFighter

    The homosexual/lesbian community is showing how INTOLERANT they actually are, and the evil nature of there cause.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Karolyn

      FF – It is not the whole “community.” I know homosexuals, particularly my conservative, Christian gay friend, who would never participate in that type of behavior and neither would my lesbian friends.

      • gunner689AI

        don’t you have any normal friends? This explanes your warped sense of reasoning.

      • Karolyn

        Don’t be ridiculous, gunner. I’ve friends of many races, religions, backgrounds, etc. EVEN CONSERFVATIVES!

      • sam1966

        Sorry Karolyn, but you cannot be gay and a Christian. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          exept the thing is …. you can.

      • sam1966

        You lie too much AS (kang). If this is true, then show me where it says so in the Bible. I invite you to try. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          It dosn,t need to be written in a ancient book to be true you can find crhishten lgbt people anywhere the catch is you need to look up from your book and look around.

      • sam1966

        Wrong, wrong, wrong AS. Being a Christian you would know that such a lifestyle is not acceptable to God and is punishable with hell fire and brimstone. Their lifestyle, yes. Them, no. You cannot be a Christian and live in rebellion to the Bible. No exceptions! No excuses! No straying from the straight and narrow path. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          Bein a chrishten means being a good person and bringing joy to and aiding others not wasting your time trying to live up to a unrealistic set of rules

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            “Being a good person”?…..there’s a lot more to it than that, you must seek SOUL PERFECTION & it is not unrealistic or impossible, for” WITH GOD ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE”.(MATTHEW 19:26)….”God is no respecter of persons” (ACTS 10:34)

          • actual socialist

            See prievious message about perfection

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Deny Perfection & you deny God & you deny LIFE!

          • actual socialist

            OH i belive in life in all it,s imperfect glory

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            There is no glory in imperfection, unless it leads to a raising of the consciousness & brings one closer to the heart of God….

            To revel in it & celebrate imperfection is to honor the Devil & Darkness!!

            INNER MEANING OF DEVIL=”DEIFIED EVIL”

          • actual socialist

            Imperfections are glorious because we can still achieve anything despite them

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Achieve anything? Like stopping having homosexual sex?

          • actual socialist

            nope that is one of the few things in life that are unchangeable and what happend to hastsa la vista forever?

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

        Karolyn, if your so called conserative gay friend is Christian, I’m a monkey’s uncle, can’t be both, they don’t go with Gods plans goddess, know more then the creator, sorry, if he is a praticing homosexual, he choose to be and is spitting in Gods Eye, Grow up, can’t be both.

    • 45caliber

      FF:

      I agree. “Tolerance” to them means the same thing as “Cooperation” – to them it means “Do it MY way!”

  • James in NY

    So where is the violence claimed by the headline? The only violence I see is expressed by the gay haters who post here.

    • APN

      I personally don’t hate anyone but find the Gay lifestyle repulsive and do not want my family exposed to it, especially my grandchildren. Bottom line, keep your perverted behavior to yourself. Nobody has the time or desire to deal with someone’s sexual dysfunctions. That is a choice Gay people made, we did not, and we basically want to be able to live our lives free of such foolish behavior.

      Keep your personal sexual habits to yourself and mind your own business and I’m sure we can do the same.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        I agree, but it’s too late the genie is out of the bottle….I live in NYC, if you ever visit don’t go to Christopher Street, you won’t believe your eyes!!!

    • 45caliber

      James:

      Hate? I don’t hate anyone, even gays. At most, I feel contempt but it is for their actions not their lifestyle.

    • sam1966

      How about the queers that attacked a homeless man for reading his Bible? That sounds like hate and aggression to me. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Killerbee

    GOD does not make mistakes. The lifestyle they live is a CHOICE by them.

    • Karolyn

      You’re right. God makes no mistakes, and created them the way they are.

      • 45caliber

        Karolyn:

        You are correct but not the way you mean, I think.

        God does not make mistakes. He created them the way they are. BUT … he didn’t make them gay. That was their own choice. God makes man in His own image and I seriously doubt that God is gay since He dislikes it so. But He gives us choice. You can’t change God’s mind simply by insisting it was HIS fault.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        So, did God create diseased children the way they are? Did God create siamese twins the way they are?, and all other manner of distortion & sickness? If you believe that then God is cruel!!!! the Truth is we all are created in the beginning , Perfect in the Divine Image, after that we create ourselves!!! Our use of Free will determines all.

      • eddie47d

        Thank you Karolyn. Now do you believe in incest Caliber because the Bible says that Adam and Eve were the only humans on earth. That means since Cain killed Abel Cain had to have sex with his mother in order to procreate. This had to go on for several generations in order to fulfill God’s wish that people to be fruitful and multiply. You love extreme thinking Caliber as your comments prove so give it a shot.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          There were many Bible stories that have been perverted, but the essence, the skeletal structure upon which it is based rings of truth. Adam & Eve were not the only souls on earth, there were others, they were part of the third root race ( a round of souls God created)

          SEE: “TEACHINGS OF THE ASCENDED MASTERS”

      • Karolyn

        You have it wrong, 45. Man made God in his own image. God is spirit; we are all spirit, hence the term “God made man in his own image.” God is not the big man up in Heaven that the artists pictured him to be. It has nothing to do with this body we carry around. All that matters is what we really are – spirit/soul.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Yes, we are more than the body, but the body was a gift from God, and as such, must be honored & not abused.. We should try to keep it as pure as possible. Anal sex, even by heterosexuals goes against that.

      • Karolyn

        No, Ooooop, God is not cruel; and it would take too much time for me to explain my beliefs to you. Besides, you wouldn’t care anyway. See what I wrote to 45 above.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          How do you know I would not care about your beliefs? Can you read my mind? Go ahead fire away!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        If God created them that way, why would he then call their lifestyle an abomination? Illogical!

      • Karolyn

        Hey, eddie. You notice no one ever answers your question?

      • Karolyn

        Jay, i’ve posted links here explaining the different interpretations of the words in the Bible regarding homosexuality (of which there are few). I don’t feel like looking them up again. Sufficeth to say there is another way to look at things.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Anyone who reads the bible & thinks it is NOT clear that homosexuality is wrong (and severely wrong) in the eyes of God, is simply not in tune with the vibrations of truth that are inherent in it. You are listening, but you do not hear!!!

      • Karolyn

        OOOOP – Well, a little bit anyway. I too believe in reincarnation; however, only when spirit wants to take another body. I believe that each spirit creates its human form the way it wants to and that we all creage everything in our lives, including our parents. Spirit wants to experience what it is born into, including all manner of diseaseWe are all born knowing exactly everything we need to know, including the truth of who we really are but are corrupted by outside influences. I have searched for truth my whole life, including being a Christian for most of it. Death is just another transition and is actually total freedom from the confines of the human body. You do have to agree that we are not this body and mind, don’t you?

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          I do agree with some of that, there is truth in much you say..we do pick our parents, but it has to be approved of by the Karmic Board (try googling that)…everything is karma….We are not the body, but the mind, our psychology comes with us, each embodiment….I believe & follow the “Teachings of the Ascended Masters” & I feel you should give it a shot, it might answer a lot of your questions, as it did for me….google: The Summit Lighthouse, Mark & Elizabeth Prophet, Theosophy, The I AM Movement

          We believe after passage of a soul, if they have enough Light, they can rise through the astral plane (Purgatory)…if not, they must languish there for while…once through the astral plane, the soul goes up to Heaven, where they are tutored in Cosmic Law, especially on the key points they need help on (i.e homosexuality), once reembodied, the karma (psychology & debts needed to be taken care of, etc..) descends at puberty…that is when the lessons hopefully absorbed will help the soul become triumphant over time & space & carnal desire, etc.& the outside influences you mention..

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        eddie says: Now do you believe in incest Caliber because the Bible says that Adam and Eve were the only humans on earth. That means since Cain killed Abel Cain had to have sex with his mother in order to procreate. This had to go on for several generations in order to fulfill God’s wish that people to be fruitful and multiply. You love extreme thinking Caliber as your comments prove so give it a shot.

        As to incest, it was not considered a sin and was not prohibited for Adam and early man. If the race was to populate and fulfill the command of Gen. 1:28, there is little doubt that Adam’s sons and daughters had to have married their own sisters and brothers if the race was to populate the earth, but due to the purity of the race as evidenced also by the long length of life, there were no adverse effects as we see happening today.

        Gradually, as the effects of sin took its toll on the human race, marrying one’s own sister, etc., began to create hereditary problems.

        Here is a explanation on this issue from the book “Basic Theology” which I would highly recommend.

        Though by many inerrantists the question of where Cain got his wife would not be considered a problem at all, this question is often used by those who try to demonstrate that the Bible is unreliable in what it claims. How could it claim that Adam and Eve were the first human beings who had two sons, one of whom murdered the other, and yet who produced a large race of people? Clearly, the Bible does teach that Adam and Eve were the first created human beings. The Lord affirmed this in Matthew 19:3-9. The genealogy of Christ is traced back to Adam (Luke 3:38). Jude 14 identifies Enoch as the seventh from Adam. This could hardly mean the seventh from “mankind,” an interpretation that would be necessary if Adam were not an individual as some claim. Clearly, Cain murdered Abel and yet many people were born. Where did Cain get his wife?

        We know that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters in addition to Abel, Cain, and Seth (Gen. 5:4), and if there was only one original family, then the first marriages had to be between brothers and sisters. Such marriages in the beginning were not harmful.

        Incest is dangerous because inherited mutant genes that produce deformed, sickly, or moronic children are more likely to find expression in children if those genes are carried by both parents. Certainly, Adam and Eve, coming from the creative hand of God, had no such mutant genes. Therefore, marriages between brothers and sisters, or nieces and nephews in the first and second generations following Adam and Eve would not have been dangerous.

        Many, many generations later, by the time of Moses, incest was then prohibited in the Mosaic laws undoubtedly for two reasons: first, such mutations that caused deformity had accumulated to the point where such unions were genetically dangerous, and second, it was forbidden because of the licentious practices of the Egyptians and Canaanites and as a general protection against such in society. It should also be noted that in addition to the Bible most other legal codes refuse to sanction marriages of close relatives.

        But here is another issue to consider. If one accepts the evolutionary hypothesis as to the origin of the human race, has that really relieved the issue of incest? Not unless you also propound the idea of the evolution of many pairs of beings, pre-human or whatever, at the same time.

        No matter what theory of the origin of the human race one may take, are we not driven to the conclusion that in the early history of the race, there was the need for intermarriage of the children of the same pair?

      • Karolyn

        OOOOP – Someone else had suggested that site. Maybe it was you. I’d forgotten all about it. Thanks for that.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Good Luck in your search for Truth….May you be Victorious in all you do!!!

      • gunner689AI

        Wrong again K. God laid down the rules and gave man free will. when you break the rules you pay the price. As to homos being mentioned in the Bible only a few times it’s the same with murder. How many times does God have to beat you over the head with right and wrong before you get it.

      • sam1966

        Ah yes, Karolyn and Ed-duh telling lies again. I challenge you to show me where they have found a gay gene. If they are born that way, then why is their lifestyle punishable with fire and brimstone? This describes you 2:

        “By means of schrewd lies unremittingly repeated, it is possible to make people believe that heaven is hell-and hell heaven. The greater the lie, the more readily it will be believed.”

        Adolf Hitler
        Mein Kampf

        Why don’t you 2 ever wise up to the truth? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          it is not punishible by anything you just think it is because of your narsissistic need to feel superior to others get help.

      • sam1966

        As I have said before, look these up in your Bible.

        Leviticus 18:22
        Leviticus 20:13
        Romans 1:24-32
        1 Corinthians 6:9-10
        1 Timothy 1:8-11
        Jude 1:7

        There are plenty of others, but these should do for now. If you can’t understand what they are saying, then you are no more than a lost little man in his own lost little world. I heard that is why your girlfriend left you, for being little. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          My girlfriend left me? news to me considering i hav,nt had one in over a month your losing it

      • APN

        Yep!!!! And HE (GOD THE FATHER) created YOU in his own image…no doubt!!!! Fact is, SHE(GOD) created Hillary Clinton in HER own image and then put her to sleep, took a rib out of HER and then made Bill Clinton as a dumb sperm downer!

        So shall it be written, so shall it be done!

        BIG powerful SMART “women”!!

        You gonna RULE the planet!! Just ask Khrushchev!!!!

        In case you don’t understand that last comment, do a little historical research……Oh My???

        Do you “think” your big powerful Menstrual cycle can handle it???

      • Samdromeda

        Do not confuse free moral agency with divine design. Proclivities, addictions and felonious behavior are all choices that people apply their wills to.

  • Ms.Young

    So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them
    THEREFORE GOD IS MALE AND FEMALE .A Hermaphrodite

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      I AM ALPHA & OMEGA…yes , God is male & female, because there is a Divine Feminine & Divine Masculine…..only you decided to make it a genital thing…

      When a soul takes embodiment, he takes on a gender to do honor to it…to magnify the qualities of the Divine Masculine or Divine Feminine…and those qualities do not relate only to sexual encounters….when 2 men or 2 women decide to live together, have sex, erc…they are perverting the whole Divine Blueprint for their souls, and misusing their Sacred Energies…they are simply transgressing against the Light…they are living in darkness & the Devil is happy!!!

      • Ms.Young

        To: OOOOPPert EEEEpert
        What happen when two Hermaphrodites get together?
        I have some friends who are Hermaphrodites.Who should they marry?

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          I believe there karma is such that they have severely abused both sides & need to be chaste & humble in this embodiment, and pray for forgiveness. God does not make mistakes, marrying & sex should be the furthest things from their minds.

      • Ms.Young

        1 Corinthians 7
        8-9I do, though, tell the unmarried and widows that singleness might well be the best thing for them, as it has been for me. But if they can’t manage their desires and emotions, they should by all means go ahead and get married. The difficulties of marriage are preferable by far to a sexually tortured life as a single.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          You are talking here (this Bible quote) about souls who embodied as one gender or the other…when you embody with organs of both genders, God is trying to tell you something , that you must control your desires, for this is what got you into this situation in the first place probably…..There is a love that does not need sex, or carnal desire, it is a higher love, this is what they need to pursue..deep meditation will bring them closer to that conclusion.

      • Ms.Young

        Thank God Marriage Is Not Part Of Gods New Kingdom In Christ!
        Luke 20
        27-33Some Sadducees came up. This is the Jewish party that denies any possibility of resurrection. They asked, “Teacher, Moses wrote us that if a man dies and leaves a wife but no child, his brother is obligated to take the widow to wife and get her with child. Well, there once were seven brothers. The first took a wife. He died childless. The second married her and died, then the third, and eventually all seven had their turn, but no child. After all that, the wife died. That wife, now—in the resurrection whose wife is she? All seven married her.”
        34-38Jesus said, “Marriage is a major preoccupation here, but not there. Those who are included in the resurrection of the dead will no longer be concerned with marriage nor, of course, with death. They will have better things to think about, if you can believe it. All ecstasies and intimacies then will be with God. Even Moses exclaimed about resurrection at the burning bush, saying, ‘God: God of Abraham, God of Isaac, God of Jacob!’ God isn’t the God of dead men, but of the living. To him all are alive.”

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Google the term, “TWIN FLAME”……when the soul is created in its first embodiment, it splits into 2….at the end when both Ascend, the twin flames unite for eternity….Jesus twin flame was Mary Magdalene.

      • sam1966

        Wrong answer Miss Young. For it even says in Timothy that when a woman is young that she is to marry, bear children, run a house, and live a godly lifestyle. You have been proven wrong. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        P.S. A woman that does not do these things has strayed from the faith.

        • actual socialist

          for the millionth time just because it is written by intolerant fools in a book does not make it fact. p.s just out of curiosity how can you say to love this countrey but hate eqaulity so much

      • sam1966

        Be careful AS (KANG), you atheism is showing. This always makes you sound the fool. As my son the bio-chemist would say (My oldest son):

        “Oh, no! Not another one of those. Not another obne whose mommy didn’t hug him enough while he was growing up.”

        You say they are fools? I command you to prove that! Aslo, here is a question for you that Sook Young has asked you many times, but you have never presented her an answer.

        “What proof or evidence can you provide that proves atheism to be accurate and correct?”

        “Liberty and Union, one and inseperable, now and forever and exclaim Christ first, our country next!”

        Andrew Johnson

        This would be a statement to back up my quote of FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        http://www.councilforhealing.org/ResearchOnHealing.html

        Go to this site for your mental help. Remember, the APA has quoted atheism as a mental disorder.

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          I can,t answer your wife because she keeps forgeting to hit the follow up button. and to answer your burning queston every scientific discovery we make helps to prove the athiests case and what proof do you have of your god that was NOT written by zealots TWO THOUSAND YEARS AGO. p.s i am not an athiest i am a unitarian universalist

      • sam1966

        Why do you keep holding onto this belief about science when 90% of all that was made or discovered in science was by Christians? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        P.S. Even Darwin refuted his findings before he died.

        • actual socialist

          And by making those discoveries they were finding out how the world REALLY works if they were like YOU we would still be in the dark

      • Rebecca

        You need a vocabulary lesson. Alpha and Omega means “Beginning and End”. Not Male and Female.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          You need a lesson in Theosophy & the truly esoteric spiritual terms….ALPHA is the Male Force that created the Universe, by penetrating the void of nothingness, OMEGA is the vessel, the womb so to speak that holds the ALPHA energy,…Hence as the Jews have called the SOUL for centuries,by the female term, “SHE”…The essence, archetype of container

          ALPHA & OMEGA ARE MUCH MORE THAN GREEK LETTERS SIGNIFYING “BEGINNING & ENDING”

          We are all meant to master & express out into the world of form, all qualities of both the Divine Masculine & the Divine Feminine., to bless, heal, comfort, & enlighten our brothers & sisters, all elemental & sentient life, & all sacred energy in Cosmos.

          INNER MEANING OF UNIVERSE= “YOU & I VERSE”

    • NC

      I wouldn’t use the term hermaphrodite as it is usually used to refer to ambiguous genitalia and that is a very difficult problem for these persons and their families and is usually considered to be a malformation or genetic accident.

      God has many attributes, some generally considered masculine and others more feminine (“Oh Jerusalem, how I would have gathered you together as hen gathers it chicks under her wings”) I would say that it takes two genders to come close to expressing even a little of who God is.

      The love of a man and a woman in marriage is designed to be an expression of who God is, holy and pure, and this is why God takes sex outside of marriage so seriously, be it the “if it feels good do it” uncommitted heterosexual sex or same sex unions that imply God has made a serious mistake.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        The fact is all mankind are supposed to reflect the qualities of both the Divine Feminine & the Divine Masculine, but whatever gender we are, those qualities are more pronounced.

    • Samdromeda

      In The Kingdom of heaven which is the Kingdom of God which means that it is owned by God there is no male or female. The purpose of sex was to create beings in familial units that exemplify the nurturing government of God which produces character like His own. You are confusing sexuality with the fountain source of life which is spiritual and eventually
      immortal. God inhabits his people and He is their spiritual life force and mind. Hermaphrodites are unique people and usually in, 100% of the cases, manifest as female. It is a popular, often requested, gender reconstructive surgery. It seems that many want to experience the best of both worlds. What will they think of next???Womb transplants???

  • Rebecca

    Dan Cathey did nothing more than voice his opinion and stand up for what he believed in. He has not refused to serve gay couples and in fact, he hires gay men and women. These people who are protesting need to find another corner to march on and SHUT IT!

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      Good point!!!

    • NC

      His original remarks were in a Baptist publication– an “in house” discussion at that. All he did was affirm traditional marriage and a very traditional view that God does judge people. Since the only Bible verse taken seriously by a lot of people is “Thou shalt not judge” they also feel free to enforce it, on God as well.

    • NC

      Forgot to say– a week before the big appreciation day I went to a smaller support day. Chick-Fil-A had an employee doing a survey asking people about how far they came from and if they were satisfied with the service etc. She had a very professional manner and was neatly dressed in a pink but masculine shirt and had a “butch” hair cut which suggests she could be gay, if I were into stereotyping.

      When I went back to the same Chick-Fil-A last Friday I talked to and employee who said there were no signs of a Kiss-In at their franchise.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Pro-homosexuals have equated anti-homosexuals with haters. This maligning trick has seeped in popular culture so much so, that we see anti-homosexuals and/or anti-gay marriage supporters having to state that they are not full of hate. As if they ever were.

    This is exactly the same as equating people who are anti-pedophilia, anti-prostitution, anti-SM as full of hate. A bigoted and cheap tactic to malign people who have opposing viewpoints with some ad hominen attack label.

    Fortunately, it seems slowly but surely many Americans are catching on that the slimy
    “label your viewpoint opponent as full of hate” tactic is nothing but the sign of bigot incapable of discussion.

    • Karolyn

      Well ,when it reads like/sounds like hate, I assume it is hate

      • gunner689AI

        Now you’re the Hate Police. Anything you damn liberals don’t agree with you call Hate.
        PC is BS

      • NC

        I did not see any hate in Dan Cathy’s remarks. They were in a Baptist publication and essentially preaching to the choir. He does believe that God will judge us for accepting the moral deviance of the day, including homosexuality but also of uncommitted heterosexual relationships resulting single parent households. The original topic was the social problems caused by the absence of a father in many households and in the course of the interview he affirmed his belief that marriage is between a man and a woman.

        Belief on the Judgement of God is pretty standard Christian belief at least until recently when many people pick and choose which parts of the Bible (and other sources) they accept or reject. The Judgement of God (predicated on the idea that since He made us He has the right to set the rules) is one of those less pleasant topics and while once standard has become rather politically incorrect. Many people choose not to believe in God’s Judgement. That is their privilege, but does not change the truth of the matter.

        Mr. Cathy was not “calling down God’s judgement” on anyone. He was genuinely worried, as many Christians are, that God’s judgement could be imminent for our callous disregard of God’s laws. If anything he was warning us to escape God’s judgement, which is a very loving (but as we see, costly and difficult) thing.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      This is a key point you make…furthermore, those who believe that Homosexuality is a sick perversion & are willing to state it publicly & espouse it consistently are actually not HATERS, but full of LOVE….the LOVE OF A TRUTH THAT WILL SET YOU FREE!!!!

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Although the human brain is far too complex for a single theory to explain the development of homosexual attractions, the combination of psychology and human experience have made some interesting discoveries.

    More than a hundred years of psychological research and the attempts of science to provide a biological explanation for homosexuality have continued to support a developmental theory; that is, homosexual orientation is developed during the formative years of life as a response to both internal (genetics) and external (environmental) circumstances.

    The seemingly automatic process by which nonsexual attraction to members of one’s gender morphs into a sexual desire for one’s opposite gender during puberty is not automatic at all. It is the culmination of an entire childhood of affirmation, attention, affection, approval, discipline, instruction, touch, time and nurturing from a member’s of one’s own gender, usually the same-sex parent.

    Research has found that when a child’s needs for same-sex affirmation and identification are met, the child’s need to identify with his or her same-sex counterparts will lessen. By the time the child reaches puberty, his or her same-gender peers seem familiar and boring, and attractions to the opposite sex kick in. Dr. Joseph Nicolosi writes, “We do not sexualize what we identify with; when we identify with someone, we are no longer sexually attracted to them. It is always to the other-than-ourselves that we are drawn.”

    According to Dr. Nicolosi, a child’s relationship with his or her same-sex parent is generally the child’s primary means of identification with and affirmation from his or her gender.

    “As very young infants, both boys and girls are first identified with the mother, who is the first and primary source of nurturance and care. However, whereas the girl maintains primary identification with the mother, the boy later has the additional developmental task of shifting identification from the mother to the [father].”

    Dr. Nicolosi goes on to say that if the father is warm and receptive, the boy will be encouraged to disidentify from the feminine and identify with the masculine. The boy will then become masculine-identified and most probably heterosexual. “In freeing himself from his bond with mother, the boy needs help in becoming fully male. He needs to know who he is, and only another man can tell him.”

    In the same way, a warm and receptive mother will encourage her daughter to become feminine-identified and most likely heterosexual. When the relationship between a boy and his father, or a girl and her mother, suffers, the child may not identify with his or her same-sex parent. This can create an unconscious drive for gender identification that follows him or her into adolescence.

    This unconscious drive for gender identification becomes eroticized (turns sexual) as a child develops his or her sexual identity. By the time a child reaches adolescence, the child may experience sexual attractions to members of his or her own sex. In short, an emotional need becomes an erotic desire.

    Andy Comiskey, who works with people overcoming homosexuality, writes, “In joining with the same sex erotically, the needy child within seeks in adult form the affirmation and emotional intimacy from the same sex that was never and properly attained in childhood.” Comiskey says that in the majority of his clients, “gay sex wasn’t really the motivating factor in their homosexual pursuits, while same-sex intimacy was, [and therefore reflected] an emotional need as opposed to an erotic one.”

    In his book Coming Out Straight, psychotherapist and author Richard Cohen writes, “A man is looking for his father’s love through another man, and a woman is looking for her mother’s love through another woman.” This is why many people (that’s many, not all) who experience homosexual attractions report poor relationships with their same-sex parent or primary caregiver while growing up.

    There is little controversy surrounding the belief that a child’s parents play a significant role in his or her emotional development, yet when theorists suggest that the same applies to sexual development, they sometimes receive opposition from those in the lesbian and gay community who believe that sexuality is determined purely by genetics.

    http://unhappygay.wordpress.com/what-causes-homosexuality/

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      You can study these things until you’re blue in the face, but the simple fact that they engaged in it the course of their lifestreams (embodiments) is all you need to know….all misuse of Free Will, the Sacred Energies of God, is simply rebellion against the Light, rebellion against the source of the Light…just like Lucifer did in Heaven & the 1/3 of the angels that followed him down to earth, and are still amongst us, creating depravity, disease, degeneration & death.

      • NC

        Actually, Ooooppee, Jay’s arguments, though on the surface “psychological” reflect a profoundly Christian worldview. You seem to blend in a lot of new age sources with your Christianity. Some of the rest of us sort through the psychobabble (because we work in the field) to find the bits that fit a biblical worldview.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Jesus was the hierarch of Pisces….”Lo, I AM with you even unto the end of the age”….There is a new age & a new paradigm , a shift in consciousness is needed, the true essence of his words are meant to be lived now, by mankind….it is time to take Jesus down from the cross, and become like him.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          I follow the “Teachings of the Ascended Masters”, which is the only path to Spirituality that answered my questions sufficiently in my lifelong search for truth. It came out of Theosophy. Google also: “The I AM Movement”, “The Summit Lighthouse”, Mark & Elizabeth Prophet”…we believe there are essential truths in all the major religions, but like many things the dark forces perverted much of it to divide us & keep us from the truth, the truth of the soul & its existence in matter, and what is truly needed to ascend time & space for eternity & become as Ascended Master, like Jesus, like Buddha, and many others.

          Th term,New Age has taken on a negative connotation over the years with Christians, but astrologers have known about the cycles for centuries

          • NC

            “New Age” is the only term I know that covers the range of sources you read. If you can suggest a better term, please let me know. “New Age” does have a negative connotation in Christian circles because many of the ideas are outside of a Biblical worldview and border on pagan religions. Astrology is specifically forbidden in the Bible. I won’t read horoscope in the paper even though I know it is fake astrology. the Bible speaks of resurrection, but not of reincarnation (“It is given unto man ONCE to die, and after that the judgement”). You combine some Biblical ideas and some from other sources– that’s your choice but I wanted to make it explicit.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            There are still quite a few clues as to reincarnation in the Bible, the Fallen Ones took many things out that explicitly mention it & the people knew about in past ages, it’s one reason soldiers were so fearless in battle, they knew they would come back again….for example, They kept asking Jesus , “are you Elijah come again”, are David come again,”…..why would they do that if they did not have a sense of reembodiment?…See the Book of John, Chapter 9, why would the people in the town ask Jesus if the blind man was born blind because he sinned or his parent’s sinned…..How can one sin, if they’ve never been born before? Saint Francis talked about reincarnation all the time in the public square, too. The writings of the Essenes mention it.

            The Fallen Ones have corrupted all religions, but none moreso than Christianity, by making it appear there is only one path to God & that is through one man, Jesus & if you don’t follow that , you will burn in Hell forever…this is pure NONSENSE, most Buddhist monks are closer to the heart of Jesus than 99% of Christians…Jesus whole message has been severely twisted, he came to show us the way & tell us we all have the same potential to rise like he did & overcome time & space & temptation…Though, he came down as a highly evolved soul, he still like all of us was created perfect in his first embodiment..see Psalm 82.6. He was not meant to take all our baggage away for us & carry us up to Heaven just by saying we believe in him…..Only we can clean up the mess we made, but He can help, give us what we need to do that, along with all the angels & other Masters.

            What about souls in the rainforest, who never heard of Jesus? What about souls who are aborted? Think about it logically, there are almost 7 billion people on the planet, and you are saying this is their only embodiment, and the overwhelming majority are not born Christian, but you expect them to simply break away from whatever they believe, all the actions & pressures of their parents & families & community & worship Jesus & if they don’t , their souls are in peril of eternal damnation….That makes no sense to me…God is Perfection & if we are created in the Divine Image, then we must have been created in Perfection, too, but with Free Will, we have the choice to go our own way, and the way of the human is the way of Death & Disease, etc…This why souls are born blind & imperfect…The God I believe in, would not create suffering, we create it!

            Religion is of man, God only looks at the heart & the yearning to be purfied & return to our true home.

    • NC

      Very thoughtful and well reasoned reply. It is compassionate and addresses the mostly unasked, often unwelcome but very therapeutic question of “what is it that pushes you in this direction.” I believe the Bible when it states we are created in the image of God, and that no matter how broken, something of that image survives, and we need to be inviting people back to that image. We all desire approval–it’s a result of being in the broken image of God. It would seem that homosexual activists are angered at a perceived rejection, affirming their need for acceptance to the point of demanding it from us.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        You get it, NC, good for you! The homosexual’s quest is not one of acquiring rights, rather, it is one of acquiring affirmation. Interesting to note, for it seems that the homosexual cannot find this affirmation he/she so desperately needs, within the homosexual-sub-culture/community, otherwise, they would not be seeking for it outside their communal orbit. On this, i would think, most would agree. Why? You would think that being among your own-kind that such a necessity would be provided, made readably available, as a matter of course. It seems reasonable to assume that your very own would provide with what you most desperately need. But that cannot be, since all of them suffer from said shortage, naturally, none can provide for the other. And it is this very bankruptcy that brings them together, it is this identifying marker that binds them one to another, the need for affirmation; yet, never recognized or perceived. And so, they subconsciously reason; since it cannot be found from amongst themselves, they will exact it, and forcefully if necessary, from the very one’s who’s lifestyle is diametrically opposed to their own, only to find themselves at a loss to understand why their demand is denied. And so their quest continues. Yet, it is a hopeless quest, nothing more then a exercise in futility. This, may be the saddest aspect of the oppressed homosexual, whose oppression is self-detirmined!

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Jay,”

        SIR, YOU ARE CORRECT. THE PROBLEM IS, HOMOSEXUALS WANT AFFIRMATION – PRIMARILY – FROM SAME-GENDER PARENTS. AN ADULT-MALE HOMOSEXUAL DESPERATELY WANTS HIS FATHER TO RESPECT HIM AS A “MAN.” IT IS EXTREMELY HEART-BREAKING TO GO THROUGH YOUR ENTIRE LIFE KNOWING YOUR FATHER VIEWS YOU AS A WEAK “SISSY.”

    • Ken

      Great Jay. This would explain why the “gay” males that I know and have spoken to have imprinted their behaviour after their mothers. No father was present in the household OR if there WAS one present, he was emasculated and the dominant role was managed by the woman (mother) of the house.

      Many gay males I have spoken to have made it clear that their mothers were their main caregivers.

      Also, in fatherless families the mother tends to prevent the little boy from “getting dirty”, they denigrate “rough play” and promote a more “effeminate” behaviour from their man-children.

      I myself have witnessed this many times from single mothers and also even within my own household.

      “The mothers job is to see that her boy’s don’t get hurt – the fathers job is to see that his boy’s don’t get hurt too badly”…..

      Effeminate behaviour is a learned behaviour – period. Why does a duck raised by a dog think it’s a dog?!

      The effect of feminism on the children of a family and it’s children can be clearly seen from the perspective you’ve listed above.

      Conslusion;

      Women cannot nor will they ever be Men.

      Men cannot nor will they EVER be women.

      A fathers love and acceptance of his children and a mothers love and acceptance of her children is necessary for the complete and healthy development of their psyche.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        Again, there is something beyond DNA, mothers, fathers, childhood memories, etc…that can explain it…you are all using the human mind to find the cause, when it is so simple….it is in the soul from past lives…it is there because of the Free Will Choice to rebel against God & the Light, this is the case with all sin.

      • NC

        Thoughtful reply

      • actual socialist

        homosexuallity is caused by a gene nothing more nothing less.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          That is a lie….Homosexuality like all sin, it a misuse of Sacred Free Will Energy God has bestowed upon us…it is rebellion against the Light & its Creator…..& Homosexuals may be the only group that proudly parades through the streets celebrating such a transgression. I can’t think of another!!

          • actual socialist

            Free will was created by the evolution of the human brain like everything else about modern humans

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Free Will is God’s Greatest Gift, it is was makes us God ourselves, but the thing is, it’s not really Free, it has to be returned to God, understand?…You have to follow the Law that is written in all our Hearts, it’s there under all that soul debris from many lifetimes of misusing the Sacred Energies, but with a serious desire to be truly free & at peace & with humility contemplation & meditation, one can start to see it , understand it & follow it, back to the Light. The kind of humility needed is that which praises God for life & forgiveness & opportunity, the kind that knows the Great Spirit is the source of every good & perfect gift!!

            Evolution is pretty much bunk!!!

          • actual socialist

            ever stop to think god created evolution? that he entended life to change adadt and progress?

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            No, because all was created in Perfection in the beginning & God saw it was GOOD!!!
            Evolution is a complete lie!

          • actual socialist

            Perfection is a myth the flaws we have have were given to us by our parents who recieved them from ther parents and so on and so on deal with it

          • sam1966

            This explains why AS is a megalomaniac. He has inherited it from his parents. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            Yes just like you inherited your passive agression disorder from yours

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Mankind must return to the consciousness of Perfection & the Immaculate Concept held within the Heart Of Mary, the Divine Mother. The Age of Aquarius is the return of the Divine Mother to heal & resurrect her children!

            MARY= “MA RAY”

          • actual socialist

            WOW you are OUT THERE arn,t ya?

      • sam1966

        Actual Socialist you lie like a rug. There is no gay gene and you cannot prove it, to say otherwise, makes you a less intelligent fool. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          And i suppose you have rock solid proof it comes from not having a dad?

          • sam1966

            Wrong, wrong, wrong AS. I didn’t mention anything about parents or the lack of. Nice try, but you have failed miserably. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            You specificlly might not have but other right-wing bible thumpers like you have.

          • sam1966

            Too much kool aid. Talk about painting everyone with a broad brush. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need to have both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            if the shoe fits

      • sam1966

        Wrong, wrong, wrong AS. As Darwin refuted evrything he studied before he died. There is also no scientific facts, or other facts, to prove evolution exists. It is just an ignorant thing to believe in, when you have no way to prove your theories correct. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        “in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior (JESUS).”

        John Quincy Adams 1837

        • actual socialist

          ” There is no evidence of evolution ” it,s official your INSANE ask any modern scientist or go to any modern high school lab you will find ALL the evidence you could possibily need

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            They’ve been lead astray…the evidence has been manipulated, even going back to Darwin…just like Global warming, once they thought it so, they made it so!.

          • actual socialist

            So eny evidence that dos,nt agree with you HAS to have been manipulated? yeah that makes perfect sence

          • NC

            You’re 19 and not being manipulated yourself? Your comments sound like the soundbites that a lot of young people live on. Hopefully you have done some actual reading.

            Some of us have been around the block a few times and know how to read and study both sides of an issue. When getting my first Master’s a research and statistics professor showed us how he manipulated his research to get the desired results–he was leftist a fan of Paulo Friere (you can look him up). You had better believe that I now read research with a critical eye, looking for how it was set up and who funded it and what it doesn’t prove as well as what it purports to prove.

            My generation was told “never to trust anyone over 30.” Now, of course, we’re well over 60. (I’m 68.) I never bought into it but looking back, was pretty arrogant on a number of points. I knew a lot when I was 19, too.

            P.S. I hope your spelling reflects the difficulty of texting on a tiny keyboard and not your educational level.

          • actual socialist

            Exept that my mother trained me to ALWAYS look at both sides of an issue i have read the conservitive ideals and i am glad i did because it was not untill AFTER i studied ther ideas that i realized how troubled they are

      • sam1966

        Does AS even know who his mother is? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          So i can,t mention your wife but you can mention my mom? screw you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • moe

    If the gays are so proud of who they are and what they do, then why don’t they say that they are sodomites, let’s be truthful. That’s really what they are. We don’t have sex any more we sleep. The truth hurts, but it will also set you free.

    • Ms.Young

      Sodomites – Do you know what that word means in the Bible?
      The Companion Bible defines a whore as a sodomitess [a shrine prostitute] who was consecrated to heathen worship, 1 Kings 14:24, 15:12, 22:46, Job 36:14 (from The Companion Bible note on Deu 23:17).
      The Companion Bible defines sodomites [shrine prostitutes] as those who commit the sin of Sodom, male prostitutes who were dedicated to idolatry which involved male-male sexual practice (from The Companion Bible note on 1 Ki 14:24).
      In Bible times, shrine prostitutes (qadesh) were common in the Holy Land.
      God insisted that Israel must not engage in sexual worship of false gods because that is the kind of false worship the qadesh performed. The Hebrew word for sodomites is qadesh. Its a relatively rare word, used only six times in Hebrew scripture
      Qadesh is never used in the Bible to mean homosexual.
      Wise students of scripture will also note that verses which mention sodomites are not talking about the geographical area called Sodom in the Bible.
      Every verse in the Bible which mentions sod@mite or sodomites is referring to shrine prostitutes who worshiped the Canaanite fertility goddess
      Many Christians assume the Bible says things it never says. They base their religious beliefs on their false assumptions instead of on what scripture actually says.
      False assumptions lead people to believe the Bible condemns committed, faithful, non-cultic relationships between two men or two women when in actual fact, the Bible never condemns committed, faithful, non-cultic, same sex relationships.
      Thinking Christians are interested in
      what the Bible actually says, not
      merely what it is presumed to teach.
      55 times our English Bibles use the word Sodom and related English words, sod@mite, sod@mites, Sodoma. Yet strangely enough, in Hebrew, Sodom and sod@mite are not related words. For this reason, its easy to draw the wrong conclusion, that Sodom and sod@mites are related when in fact, they are not etymologically related.
      whenever the Hebrew words qadesh or qadesha are used in scripture, they refer to a pagan worshiper of the fertility goddess. Therefore when we translate from Hebrew to English (or any other language), if we’re honest, we must retain the original Hebrew meaning instead of translating it to mean homosexual.
      Because qadesh and qadesha, as used in the Bible, never refer to gay men or lesbian women in committed, faithful, non-cultic partnerships, it is wrong to assert that qadesh and qadesha mean homosexual in English when they clearly did not mean homosexual in Hebrew.
      Sodomites, qadesh and qadesha, in the Bible were male and female worshipers of the Canaanite fertility goddess, not homosexuals and not lesbians.
      Sodom was an ancient Canaanite city, Genesis 10:15-19, 13:12. The pagan Canaanite religious worship of the people of Sodom included precisely the same cultic, religious, sexual activity which was forbidden by God in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 and Deuteronomy 23:17-18.

      • Karolyn

        Thank you for that.

      • sam1966

        The gays and lesbians were the main cause of God raining fire and brimstone onto Sodom and Gomorrah. Sodom is where we get the term sodomy from. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        P.S. I think you need a different translation of the Bible, likle the King James version.

        • actual socialist

          no one raied fire one building caught fire it spread happens all the time

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Many highly evolved spiritual adepts who can read the Akashic records, have verified Sodom & Gomorrah was no fairy tale, but truly the wrath of God….Yes, we are all God’s Children, (PSALM 82.6), but actions have consequences, & the Judgment will desend uon nations & individuals!!!

          • actual socialist

            And a scientist would tell you it was an earthquake it,s all about who you want to belive

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            I’ve heard several highly evolved souls, from very different cultures talk about the Akashic Records of Sodom & Gomorrah, and they all agreed it was pretty devastating, what ever it was…

            Remember, God chastises those he loves !!! He loves all his children, but His Mercy is not inifinite…sooner or later, the soul has to awaken to what they’ve created & start taking the Right-Handed Path back to Purity & the Light!

          • actual socialist

            Of course it was devestating it just wasn,t divine

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            There are no coincidences in the world…Almighty God is a just God, and all catastrophes happen for a reason…ordained from on high!!! You can keep living in your fantasy world if you wish.

          • actual socialist

            You are right in one aspect natural diesasters happen for a reason earthquackes happen because tectonis plates shift creating and realising pressure storms happen because low pressure systems collide with high pressure systems tidel waves happen because water is displaced by landslides you chalk this all up to a man in the sky and accuse me of living in a fantasy world? hahahahahahahahaha

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Not a MAN IN THE SKY….but the GREAT SPIRIT OF ALL LIFE!

          • actual socialist

            Ok now yu sound like a native american who quite frankly i prefer to christhten fundamentalists

          • http://naver samurai

            Actually, you are a child of satan and are blind to the truth.

            “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”

            Thomas Jefferson
            Jefferson Memorial

            This is what Jefferson was fighting against. People, like you and your ilk, who bring tyranny onto anyone that isn’t some left wing extremist. Need to study more there dude. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

            P.S. There are no atheists in foxholes.

          • actual socialist

            He also said he did,nt want this countrey to have a standing army

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Don’t you get it? GOD IS ONE !!!!!!

      • sam1966

        Once again, actual socialist (kang?) has shown just how ignorant he really is. God not only rained down fire and brimstone, but the earth opened up underneith their feet. Read Genesis to awaken that obviously dense lib mind. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          ” The ground opened up beneth ther feet ” you say? 2 words first word EARTH second word QUAKE

      • sam1966

        Wrong, wrong, wrong AS. Go read your Bible and have your little dense lib mind awakened. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        “They who are decrying the Christian religion are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”

        Charles Carroll of Carrollton

        • actual socialist

          They had earthquakes in biblical times just saying

  • old hillbilly

    Perhaps it gets down to the intake & exhaust analysis – what goes in one end comes out the other – & the perpetual motionalization philosophy of simply connecting one end to the other to accomplish unending motion (gratificationalization). If one end is labeled oral and the opposite anal, logically the acts are oralanal or shorten it up to oranal (spiffier word). Of course, the nose always knows if the alignment is proper for the acts to be consumed.

    I wonder if Obama, joey, nanny, barney, & erica could get this all down in legal terms & certificated proper enough for the FDA & homeland security to sprinkle water on it, legalize it, & end all this hatred against the fecalites. Can we all say ORANAL? The old word “abomination” doesn’t seem to work anymore.

  • actual socialist

    Let me get this straight you,re condeming homosexuals for not exepting a insult? wow if you people are the future of america we aare in bigger trouble then i thought.

    • Peter

      I cannot believe you are so utterly stupid as to believe there was any insult in what the owner of Chick Fil-a said! He simply stated his OPINION, which under the US Constitution HE IS ENTITLED TO, just the same as we all are! There was NOT ONE WORD of hate or blatant bigotry in ANYTHING he said. It was a simple response to a simple question. Get over your over-sensitive bigotry against Christians you hate-monger! I really am totally over the loony left! :-(

      • actual socialist

        Exept that when you say that you want to deny a minority group i.e lgbt a right i.e to marry you have transended free seach and gone into hate speach. learn the facts petey

      • sam1966

        Wrong, wrong, wrong AS. Minority status is based on religion, race, and creed, not perverted lifestyles. You talk about the right to marry and be as they are, but it seems that you have forgotten that marriage and behavior are not covered under the Constitution. But there is a reference to God in the Preamble and a reference to Jesus in Article VII of the Constitution. I wonder how much you get paid to be a 5th columner? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          We hold these truths to be self evident that ALL MEN are created EQUAL and endowed by ther creater { your god] with sertian inalienible rights life liberty and the pursout of happiness. by denying them equality under the law i.e denying them the right to be open about who they are and marring who THEY want you sir are violating the constitution you,re denying them both liberty and the pursout of happiness. you fascist pig

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            No where does it state there is a right to marry one of same sex, if it is just about commitment & love, then a person should be allowed to marry their dog or their horse, or three people should be able to marry….equal protection under the law means a homosexual man can marry a woman like any other man….

            This is a spiritual issue, not a social one.

          • actual socialist

            Wrong wrong wrong equal treatment means letting the homoseual man be true to himself and marry whoever he wants and the only way to make him equal is under the law and i mean mans law

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            But, there are no federal laws that allow this travesty & abomination!!! All 32 times the people have voted on it , they’ve voted it down, only misguided judges & Liberal pols have shoved it through.

            There can’t be equal protection under the law, until there is a law!!

            BTW, actual socialist, are you actually a SOCIALIST? If you are, you should know that Socialism & Communism are affronts to God, because it snuffs out Free Will….the same Free Will that created Homosexuals & their behaviors not God

          • actual socialist

            Yes i am in fact a socialist and as a socialists i don,t care what you belive as long as you don,t try to force it down my throught and the reason no federal law exists to permit gay marrige is because the capitilists want to keep the status quo by dividing everyone else and they will use whatever they can to pursue thar goal even your religion.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            No Federal Law exists because to some extant, we are still a Christian nation, thank God.

          • actual socialist

            Try not to have a coniption when i say this we are not now nor were we ever a crhishten nation that would make us a theocracy we are and have always been a secular republic

          • sam1966

            Wrong, wrong, wrong AS! There is nothing seular about our founding or our founding documents. Look at how many times references are made to God and Jesus in our founding documents and our memorials. We were even founded on Christian principles, hence a Christian nation. We are a republic, just not a secular state. Why do you constantly lie about something and have no facts to back up what you say? Just stay off of he site. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            Quick queston if the constitution refrenced satan would that mean we are a satanic nation?

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            But, it does not mention Satan…..The Constitution was a Divinely inspired doctrine given to us by the Hosts of Heaven & the sponsor of AMERICA…..SAINT GERMAIN

            All need to google, “SAINT GERMAIN”

            Moses asked God his name & His reply was: “I AM THAT I AM”

            INNER MEANING OF AMERICA (spells)= “I AM RACE”

            The Children of Israel come home again….America is the true nation of Israel

            SEE & READ: “AMERICA & BRITAIN IN PROPHECY” by Herbert W. Armstrong, available free from “Philadelphia Church of God” call: 1-800-772-8577

            One reason the Constitution is so wise & proposes less Government is because Satan is in the world & in our leaders…Until our leaders are walking with God, there will be no solutions to any problems, man as Dems or Repubs or anything does not have the solutions, only God does!!!

            INNER MEANING OF GOVERNMENT: “GOD OVER MEN”

          • actual socialist

            I was beinghypothecticul and the inner meaning of goverment is that it exists to serve the people

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            WRONG, WRONG, WRONG…..governments main function is to protect the people & let them be as free as possible, so they can express their Free Will, balance their karma…& learn by their choices

            When entitlements grow, it actually creates a distance between man & God, because souls come to rely on man for their sources of supply, when in fact, EVERY GOOD & PERFECT GIFTS COMES FROM GOD…

            God is the source of all !!!

          • actual socialist

            exept that goverment MUST distance itself from any one relgion so they can all flourish

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            How many synagogues, mosques, Budhhist & Hindu temples are there in America? I’d say they are all flourishing & all will tell you the same thing: HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT OF GOD, IS NOT OF THE LIGHT!!!!!

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            We are a Christian nation in our foundations, & structures, but we are a Christian nation that allows Freedom of Religion & does not force one to religiously follow Christianity….Freedom being a truly Christian precept..

            One must distinguish between Christian precepts & CHRISTIANITY….

            A Jew, Muslim or Hindu can express Christian values, without following Christianity..

          • http://naver samurai

            I just heard AS go wwwwwhhhhhooooommmmmppppp on the floor. Care to cite a source showing otherwise AS? AS? JON? Where did you losers go? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            Freedom is a human vurture not a chrishten one many chrishtens and chrishten nations employed slavery

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Freedom is not a human virtue, it is of God, it is a Divine quality, therefore it comes through the Christ.

          • actual socialist

            Freedom was thought up as the brain evolved like every other concept

          • sam1966

            Care to cite a source on that lie? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

            P.S. Evolution is a crock and there are no facts to back it up. Darwin even refuted everythng before he died.

          • actual socialist

            So did the man who formla for human kindness but he still could,nt prove himself wrong thankfully the scientists today have stronger nerves then darwin because refutting it was the ONLY part he got wrong

      • Peter

        actual socialist aka eric jones, let’s start talking facts buddy. Here is the transcript of the actual comments made by Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy (not the distorted ones you lefty liars have accused him of making):
        http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=38271
        “Some have opposed the company’s support of the traditional family. “Well, guilty as charged,” said Cathy when asked about the company’s position.

        “We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that.

        “We operate as a family business … our restaurants are typically led by families; some are single. We want to do anything we possibly can to strengthen families. We are very much committed to that,” Cathy emphasized.

        “We intend to stay the course,” he said. “We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles.”

        Now Eric baby, sweetikins, loony lefty supremo, please, in all your ‘wisdom’, can you point out to me any part of the above quote that calls for hate toward homosexuals?
        Where are you even mentioned?
        How does it insult your over-sensitive ears?
        Where does it say one word about homosexuality?

        Nowhere, just like your ‘mind’ is nowhere in realty.

        You are a liar, a hateful bigot and a distorter of facts, so take your hateful bigotry against Christians who are entitled to a decent life just like you are, and shove it where the sun don’t shine, I’m sure it will fit, large as it is.

        • actual socialist

          So let me get this straight i belive in equality for all therfore i must hate god? interesting logic ther fella

      • sam1966

        Well said Peter! I can just hear the whooooomp as AS just hits the floor due to being body slammed. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        P.S. Know God and Jesus, know peace.
        No God and Jesus, no peace.

      • Peter

        AS, it might interest your tiny pea-brain to know that the fascists in Nazi Germany were actually socialists, a socialist dictatorship to be completely clear.
        Look it up, undeniable fact, so every time you label someone you think is right-wing as a fascist, you’re displaying your ignorance.

        • sam1966

          “The problem with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, just that they know so much that isn’t so.”

          Ronald Reagan

          This is just the way they are Peter. Keep up the good fight. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          And yet the communists were some of the first visitors to the death camps the socialsts elements of the arty led by earnst rhome were purged in the night of the long knives adolf hittler chose moussllini as his role model not lenin nce try though

  • swampfox

    I am going to be blunt here,
    now we see what the sodimites really hate…god himself.
    Not surprising since what they do IS a abomination to adonai,Jesus,and the holy spirit,
    They were doing the same thing in sodem and gomorah and the other two cities that god obliterated.
    Those sodimites were so perverted they wanted to rape two angels (genesis 19:1,19:5),
    these people hate god and everything he stands for.
    The perverted individuals WILL answer to Jesus who will NOT hear ANY excuses,no plea bargaining with him,none,nada.
    a eternity in the lake of fire awaits every one of you!
    This is’nt a joke and is a fact.
    LEVITICUS 20:13
    if a MAN also lie WITH MANkind,as he lieth with a woman,BOTH of them have committed an ABOMINATION:they shall SURELY be put to death;their blood BE UPON THEM.
    AS THE SON OF GOD JESUS does not consider the grevious sin of Sodemy no different,no surprise as Jesus IS the word and he represents the father.
    For all you sodimites who think Jesus is a touchy feely person who wil not bring the full judgement of his word down upon you,you are seriously deluded and have been donned by Satan.
    Jesus is not just going to Ignore what you have done,he is going to cast all sodimites into hell.

    This is not a hate message,no it’s a fact.
    We Christians are giving you a warning!
    REPENT and STOP,TURN OR BURN,FLY OR FLY.
    It’s that simple!
    Jesus went through agony and to.the cross for you,but I am hear to tell you,he is not to be played with!
    he is HOLY.
    yall can change his word,twist it all you want,make whatever excuses you want,
    Jesus IS NOT going to listen to any of that non sense!

    • swampfox

      Fly or fry,dang phone!

    • Ms.Young

      Read Judges 19
      http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=judges%2019&version=CJB
      I do not know of ANY GAY PEOPLE WHO WOULD DO SUCH AN ACT BUT I DO KNOW OF MANY STRAIGHT MEN WHO WOULD DO SUCH AN ACT!

    • actual socialist

      sf it,s real simple god created people in his image therefore god must be partially gay or he would,nt have created homosexuals

      • Peter

        God didn’t create homosexuals AS, they are an aberration.
        There is NO SUCH THING as the ‘gay gene’.
        Homosexuality has many causal factors, but genetics is NOT one of them if you care to do some HONEST research.
        Here is a good place to begin: http://www.narth.com/docs/hom101.html
        Homosexuality 101: What Every Therapist, Parent, And Homosexual Should Know, Julie Harren, Ph.D., LMFT

        • actual socialist

          If you are homosexual you are BORN that way and all the biblicle quoates and false studies in the world won,t change anything.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            The key to understanding life is karma, free will & reincarnation….Yes, you may have been born that way in THIS LIFETIME, but God does not create such a perversion, at some point in your lifestream, in some embodiment, of their own FREE WILL choice, they rebelled against the Law & the Light, entered into this Satanic activity & now have a momentum on it.

            Goe does not create darkness & depravity, man does !!!!!!

          • actual socialist

            Im pretty sure trhat reincarnation is a HINDU idea not crhishten and if you belive that god created EVERYTHING then accept that he created EVERYTHING

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            There are plenty of Christians that believe in reincarnation, and I follow the “Teachings of the Ascended Masters”, & we believe there is truth in all religions, but they have been perverted..

            Yes, God created all souls, but he created them in Perfection, it is only our misuse of Free Will that has created disease & degeneration. Isn’t easy to not believe in reincarnation? That way one does not have to take responsibility for their actions over many lifetimes….WAKE UP !!!

          • actual socialist

            diesese is created by bacteria and this ” degeneration ” you speak of is nature passed down through generations.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Mankind was given dominion over the earth & nature, but they have misused their power, how can they have dominion over nature, if they can’t take dominion over themselves.& their lower perverse nature? All perversions in nature are also caused by mankind’s misuse of Free Will Energies.

          • actual socialist

            Mankind was not given anything we took it with advanced intelluct and technology

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Deny the Source & your Creator & you deny your Divine Self, you will be stuck in the Astral Plane for centuries!

          • actual socialist

            Can,t disprove what i say so go on a relgious rant? you really are just like samurai arn,t ya?

      • sam1966

        Ha, ha, ha, ha! How much kool aid of hate have you drank today AS? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          Oh bout as much as you force feed your wife.

          • sam1966

            Sorry dude, but my wife is not on this thread. She is also the better person between you 2. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

            P.S. Stick to the subject at hand, if you possess the intelligence to do so.

          • actual socialist

            Like you? yeah it takes REAL brain power to use 2,000 year old thinking on modern issues

      • Peter

        AS, just because you don’t agree with a scientific outcome doesn’t make it any the less valid. You are only displaying your abject stupidity by disrespecting such a study. It is exactly the same ‘logic’ you loony lefties use to discount Christianity, yet when it’s thrown back at you and disproves your ‘golden goose theory on homosexuality’, suddenly you don’t like it or believe it? What an utter and complete hypocrite you are. Very sad and totally lacking in credibility!

        • actual socialist

          And yet it is ok for a conservitive to insist global warming is a myth that fracking is harmless and that the death penalty does NOT deter crime { scientifis studies prove all this }

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Global warming is a myth…(see: LORD MONCKTON), though I will say it is a fact that our energy sources POLLUTE the environment, they just are not the cause of Global warming & global warming may not actually be taking place anyway, climates have changed in cycles over the centuries…the Death Penalty is Just….Fracking is still up in the air to me!

          • actual socialist

            Our pollution creates the gas that created the hole in the o-zone lair therfore we are responcible for accelerating the procces the death penalty is a hypocritical farce that drags us down to the killers level and has been proven to cost more then life imprisonment try reaserching the facts instead just repeating what was written thousands of years ago it,s harder but you will be a better person for it

          • http://naver samurai

            As I have said before, cite your sources or be quiet. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            What you can,t be botherd to do your own research?

          • NC

            Actually, it is important to cite your research. I save all sorts of information because I want to be able to cite the source. Also some sources are more credible that others, even sources on “my” side of an issue. If you believe something, you want to have credible sources and not the nut jobs, which exist on any side of any issue.

          • actual socialist

            fair enough i will site ny sources when i can remember them my memorey don,t always work so good

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            More crucially , you have forgotten the Cosmic Laws of God that are written in all our souls &hearts…the ones that reveal homosexuality as a perverse abomination!!!! & rebellion against the Light!!!!!

          • actual socialist

            The cosmic laws were written by individuals who misinterpreted dreams as visions

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Facts? until you research Lord Monckton, you have no truth…hole in ozone layer is a lie!

          • actual socialist

            But you have no trouble what so ever belivng a senier citizen can build a boat big enough to hold 2 of every type of animal on the planet

          • sam1966

            They have found the ruins of Noah’s Ark. What’s your proof they haven’t? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            They found the remains of a boat nothing more or less

          • sam1966

            Another lie from you, but hey, if that is what you want to ost, so be it. They also found the ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            But i thought the ground swallowed gommoragh

          • sam1966

            True, but over the centuries the Dead Sea eventually moved in and they found the ruins under the water. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love country and fear of God to be a patriot.

            P.S. Another fact from the Bible you can’t prove wrong.

          • Samdromeda

            Gomorrah was bombarded with burning sulfur.

          • actual socialist

            see prievios comment

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            WITH GOD, ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE !!!!

            Including Homosexuals waking up & changing their repulsive behaviors!!!

          • actual socialist

            When it comes to sexuality you are what you are the sooner you exept it and stop caring what others think the happier you will be

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            What others think does not matter…one should only be concerned with what GOD THINKS ABOUT IT & on that note Hasta La Vista, forever, AS!!!

          • actual socialist

            so long a..hole

      • sam1966

        Care to cite a credible source showing that global warming and fracking are going on at this present time, hmmm? There have been scientists that have disagreed with Al “the bore” Gore on global warming. Isn’t also amazing how Gore amassed more than $300 million dollars on this lie? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        “To the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”

        George Washington

        • actual socialist

          Really you a grown man needs proof of fracking ok try the 30,000 fracking wells in Colarado and the fact that it,s the cornerstonte of most republicans energey plans!!!!!!! and if the rising tempretures and melting artic ice can,t convence you you are either stupid or stubborn probably both knowing you

          • sam1966

            Since you wish to act like a fool I’m moving on to another thread. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God be a patriot.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          The convenient truth is Gore would not debate Lord Monckton…The Liberal, Progressive way, the Saul Alinsky way is to lie & cheat & keep doing it, ignore all pertinent facts, denigrate the character and motives of those you disagree with. It leads to a consciousness of “I know better than you, I’m superior to you, therefore I will not earnestly have a discourse with you & I will decide for you, because you are too stupid to decide for yourself.”

          • actual socialist

            And here i thought that was the line of thinking behind christhen fundelmentillism silly me!

      • Peter

        AS, I said nothing about climate change, but since you ask, yes, I believe we are severely damaging our home, and the rampant power of multi-national corporations is largely to blame, so I guess you could say I don’t fit your stereotype of a ‘typical conservative’ whatever that is.
        Also, if you care to read Genesis, God commanded Adam to have ‘husbandry’ over His creation, our home, the earth. This was said to Adam before he sinned, therefore it was a most Godly and good premise for taking care of the earth. Then came sin, which we are all guilty of in one way or another, and have been ever since, and mankind began to abuse God’s bountiful gift to us.
        This is the most significant area I believe Jews and Christians fall down in, that of caring for our greates gift from God, in a fashion that God intended. I strongly believe that if Christians were totally honest with ourselves before God, we would have to admit we have abdicated our birthright from God, to the loony greenies who also have no morals.

        Some translators have also made the error of using the word ‘dominion’ in describing what we are to do with the earth, yet if you look at the proper context as above, of when this command was given by God, it is easy to see He intended it for our good in a Godly fashion, not for us to rip, tear and devour it at will and to use and abuse all that it is capable of producing for us in our foolish ‘cleverness’.

        In a small way, I believe that is why movies like Avatar draw such passionate responses from people, because we recognize the inhereht truth and goodness found in those who care for and nurture their home, rather than destroying it for greed.
        I support many causes, including getting rid of the tar sands in Canada, stopping the filth of fracking, and support for Chief Raoni in Brazil, whose people have been forcibly displaced by the Belo Monte Dam on the Amazon.

        Not all Christians are gun-toting oil barons.

        Here endeth the lesson :-)

        • actual socialist

          The ” greenies ” want to save the one and only planet we have to live on what could possibly be more moral then that?

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Many “greenies” are not about saving it , but getting more power…Green is the new RED!!

          • actual socialist

            And in the mind of most ” professional politicions ” the ” free market ” is the new god

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Markets like people, should be free…..it’s the governments that interfere & mess things it up!!

          • actual socialist

            exept that the free market is in fact a myth

      • Peter

        AS, what could be more moral than that is if the greenies not only cared for the planet, but revered its Creator and kept His commandments and those of His Son, Jesus Christ.
        Instead, they flop around being part of the loony left and telling everyone they can do what they want and that it won’t hurt anyone else!
        WRONG!
        I wonder if you’ve ever read the main premise of the satanic bible, written by Anton La Vey?
        It says this, “Do what thou wilt”.
        In other worlds, ‘whatever turns you on’, which is exactly what the militant homosexual lobby is saying.
        “Who is anyone to say what others should do?”
        “How dare anyone tell someone else what moral code they should live by?”
        This is EXACTLY the lack of morals held by the greenies, the loony left, and satanists, all of whom want only anarchy.

        Sorry, NOT ON MY WATCH!

        I care about this earth, but I do so in the spirit and manner of our Father in heaven, because His is the ONLY true way to care for His people and His creation.
        End of story.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          The Divine Law, Cosmic Law, bestowed upon us by Almighty God is written in ALL our hearts…it’s just covered up by Soul Debris, from lifetimes of rebellion against the Light & Law, by lifetimes of believing the lies of the Devil, “SURELY YOU SHALL NOT DIE”…though, humility, chastity & contemplation & meditation, all can return to the Love of the Father & receive the Mefciful Compassion of the Mother…..all it takes is a yearning for Purity & the Perfection, we had in the beginning…

          “I AM ALPHA & OMEGA, the Beginning & the End” (REVELATION 22:13)

        • sam1966

          That is true Peter. Maybe AS should read the book, “The Green Dragon.” This will help to awaken his dense lib mind to their true agenda. Also, how about the millions of jobs lost due to this movement? They definately are not coming back. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            I,m gonna go out on a limb and say the green dragon is anouther conspiracy book you conservitives love so much

        • actual socialist

          Exept that mother earth is the ONLY PROVEN PROVIDER every mainstream religion is the creation of man in his atemt to understand her

          • sam1966

            That is a lie and you cannot prove it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            And wether you like it or not you can,t prove chrishtianity and no a two thousand year old book does NOT count as proof

        • sam1966

          Well said Peter. And the left wing extremists on this site cannot prove you wrong. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Peter

        Sam/Samurai, don’t you love the fact actual socialist hasn’t ‘actually’ answered any of the arguments I’ve posted?
        Hilarious really, although I shouldn’t laugh, the poor little munchkin probably has to refer to the dictionary before typing his pseudonym!

  • swampfox

    God is not mocked,
    ALL you furrows who.wear animal.costumes and engage in perversion,all homosexuals,all liars,satanists are
    In for rude awakening!

    • swampfox

      The phone messed my post up.
      Keeps changing what i type,cannot wait till I get my laptop fixed.
      To continue,
      god will not be mocked!
      all you ‘furries’ who wear animal costumes,while doing your perverted acts are going to burn in hell,
      all you sodimites (homosexuals),are going to be judged for what you have done by Jesus himself.
      everyone you have brought into this sin and cursed,every evil thought,every abominible act,all the wickedness you have done will be brought before your face!
      This is not a hate rant,no it IS a fact.
      only by accepting Jesus as lord of your life and REPENTING of your grevious life style of sin can you be saved!
      Repent means to stop,cry out to a holy god on your face for forgiveness,
      Do it not and Jesus WILL be your judge,
      or he can be your saviour,it IS YOUR choice!
      Jesus OS not the mamby-pamby individual Satan and others have conned you into thinking he is,oh no no no he is not!
      He is a the son of god and EVERYONE will be judged by him for what they have done in their body,every idle word,act,willful deeds,acts of rebellion and disobedience,
      keep.thinking he is to be played with!
      I thank my heavinly father he drew me to him 25 years ago and i am in the lambs book of life and do not have the WRATH of god on me,
      You who are not truely saved and who are In the thralls of this bondage,
      well,judgement awaits you,actually it is on you NOW,but the verdict of guilty will be given by Jesus himself when you appear before him,
      No amount of pleading,no.excuse will.save you,no discussing it,wailing,crying,NOTHING will do you anygood,IT WILL BE TO LATE!

      • Samdromeda

        There seems to be some misunderstanding about the purpose of judgement. Judgement is now upon the house of God. There is law involved as a standard of judgement only to those who know better now. God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. Repentance is a gift from God. Judgement begins when the individual becomes aware of the fact that he or she has been breaking God’s laws which is sin and automatically earns the death penalty and turns from doing that and has his or her past sins forgiven. This is the purpose of the blood sacrifice of Christ. If a man does not sin He should not die. God The Father gave Christ the ability to have life within Himself. It is through Christs life within the Christian that enables him to build Gods character and partake of His Divine nature. God’s purpose is not defeated by this world and judgement assures that. Judgement is the exercising of God’s mercy. There remains cause and effect and the appropriate application of will and life management on the part of the individual with guidance. We can assert right and wrong now but lets not push judgement before God’s appointed time. The whole universe awaits the revealing of The Sons of God. New Heaven and New Earth will not come into being until Judgement is complete and God The Father says “Behold I make all things new.”

        • NC

          To Samdromeda Well put.

      • sam1966

        Well said Samdromeda. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • http://naver samurai

    Way to go Chick-fil-A. Let’s have more businesses do the same thing. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • actual socialist

      hey sammy boy it,s me eric jones remember changed my id. so quick queston if a ceo goes on tv and reants about asains would you applaud him? you let them insult one group they think they can insult them all.

      • sam1966

        How is a man that supports traditional marriage, the way God says it should be, an insult to the queers? So now you are trying to take away the mans God given right of freedom of speech? If this was an insult or affront to anyone, then why has their business gone through the roof? If it was an insult, wouldn’t business be slipping? Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. If he did make a statement against Asians, that would be biggotry. But since gays are not an official minority, they are not covered under the same rules in the game. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          Your rights are givin to you by the constitution and were achieved through millitant struggle like every other right and whether they are ” official ” or not hate is hate oppresion is oppresion even if it,s in the name of god.

          • sam1966

            Wrong, wrong, wrong! The Declaration of Independence, which provides the philosophical base of our nation, states very clearyly that our rights are granted to us by our Creator (GOD). The various rights noted in the Bill of Rights were not granted by government (Constitution). The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to prevent the federal government from suspending any of those God given rights, including the right to possess a weapon. Those who claim “2nd Amendment rights,” for instance, make a big mistake with such a statement. If the right is granted by the 2nd Amendment, meaning by government, it can be taken away by government. If the right is granted by God, only He can take it away. Why can’t your dense little lib mind understand something so common sense as this? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            They just put that in because they did,nt know better and as a man who is actually PROUD to be called conservitive you have NO buesness what so ever talking about commen sense

        • actual socialist

          P.S i can,t find it on google what is a kang.

      • sam1966

        By that rants you have just posted to me shows that I have won this debate. But alas! It is so easy to win against you, since you are so unarmed. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        “It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.”

        Patrick Henry
        March 23, 1775

        P.S. You lose again AS.

        • actual socialist

          You need me a 19 year old to explain fracking to you but i,m unarmed?

          • sam1966

            I know what fracking is, nitwit. Some 19 year old who first says he is agnostic, then turns around and says he’s unitarian. Just rememer this:

            “The fool says there is no God within his own heart.”

            Psalms 14:1

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            “I have found most atheists are atheists in the lip than in the heart”

            – Sir Francis Bacon

            If one is an atheist in the heart, they gots big problems!

          • actual socialist

            First of all you asked for prook of fracking nitwit and i gave it to you and i converted sue me

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Great Quote, thanks!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Thank you fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            “Fear of God is the beginning of Wisdom” (PROVERBS 9:10)

            Inner Meaning of WISDOM= “WISE DOMINION”

      • JON

        You’re right! I think I may start donating to anti-korean groups, In the similar way Mr. Cathy donating to anti-gay groups. It’s only fair! It’s good to discriminate against a group of people for no other reason than one’s own ideological bulls**t. I of course, would never do such a thing because I feel all people are created equal! Not the ones I feel are more deserving than others.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Cathy donates to PRO-FAMILY GROUPS……only you & those who share your consciousness spin it into anti-Homosexual groups…a HATE thing…..you have to have a victim, right?

          I also prefer to think of Cathy’s beneficiaries as PRO-TRUTH GROUPS.

        • actual socialist

          Wel that,s conservitism for you all men are equal but some men are more equal then others

      • sam1966

        That is actually liberal/progressive thinking, as in being in the in crowd or part of “the group.” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    There are basically only four views concerning the Bible. ONE–it is essentially irrelevant and no more authoritative or inspired than the writings of Plato or Shakespeare.

    TWO–it is relevant but must be reinterpreted in the light of modern science and in large measure it is composed of myths, legends, and faulty history.

    THREE–it is not only relevant but also authoritative in religion and morals though it may contain errors in matters of science and history.

    FOUR–it is absolutely infallible or without error of any kind in the original autographs. One can, of course, find every shade of variation in the spectrum from the far left to the far right.

    The far left is the position of the Liberal. In religion, Liberalism is a faith built on some form of philosophical idealism and naturalism. It denies that there is anything essential to their religion in the person of Christ or the Bible. The Liberal may include Jesus and the Bible in his system, but only because He shares in Western culture–certainly not from principle or necessity.

    Most of today’s Unitarians would fall in this category. Those who hold to what is known as “Liberation” and “Radical Theology” are the outstanding teachers of Liberalism in our day.

    The Bible to them is simply a human, fallible book, having no more authority than the writings of Plato, Shakespeare or any other philosopher or writer. These people are not Christians. We discuss these servants of the Devil because they are spewing forth their blasphemy in churches, schools, books, papers and TV today.

    William Hamilton and Thomas J. J. Altizer are two representatives of this Liberal position. They have received a hearing at such prominent places as Princeton Theological Seminary (Presbyterian), Drew Graduate School (Methodist) and Colgate-Rochester Divinity School (Baptist). In the 1990′s Robert Funk and those taking part in his “Jesus Seminars” are another example of the Liberal position.

    The Liberal’s radical infidelity staggers the imagination. Here is what Hamilton and Altizer have written in the preface to their book, Radical Theology and the Death of God which was published in 1966:

    Radical theology is a contemporary development within Protestantism–with some Jewish, Roman Catholic and non-religious response and participation already forming–which is carrying the careful openness of the older theologies toward atheism a step further. It is, in effect, an attempt to set an atheist point of view within the spectrum of Christian possibilities.

    That should be enough to curl any Christian’s hair and raise the eyebrows of anyone who knows anything about the meaning of words. How could an atheist have a theology when “atheism” means no God and “theology” is the study about God? They tell us also that,

    radical theology . . . has gained the interest and in part the commitment of a large number of Christians in America, particularly from students of all disciplines, and from the younger ranks of teachers and pastors.

    The field of study for these Liberals is the thought and literature from the time of the French Revolution, rather than the Bible. We give one last quote from these Hell-bound rascals in which they write:

    The death of God radical theologians … are men without God who do not anticipate his return … And this group persists, in the face of both bewilderment and fury, in calling itself Christian.

    The Psalmist truly said, The fool has said in his heart, ‘There is no God’ [PSA 14:1]. For

    the Liberal the Bible is simply an ancient book of myths.

    http://www.christianbeliefs.org/articles/bible-liberal.html

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      The Bible is just one of many Holy books about God & Spirit across the spectrum of cultures, there are thousands of writings made about the same time in the same place that could’ve been incorporated in the Bible, New & Old…it has been tampered with greatly, the old cannard applies, “Translators are Traitors.”

      It is the word of God, but coming through men, these things are bound to happen, especially since men are subject to the dark forces, who try to twist truth!

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      What is truly mind-boggling is Churches & Christian groups that can read & study the Bible, New & Old, and yet sanction homosexuality, homosexual marriage & ordain openly homosexual priest & bishops !!!!

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    ADULTS SHOULD CRITICIZE EACH OTHER DIRECTLY. I AM UPSET. ON 8 AUGUST (11:21 PM), “sam1966,” WROTE, “Even Bob Livingston has said that you post nothing but lies and misconceptions.”

    I WISH SOMEONE WOULD BE WILLING TO TELL ME WHAT THREAD “sam1966″ GOT THAT STATEMENT FROM. ISN’T IT FAIR FOR ME TO SEE AND READ THE STATEMENT MADE BY Mr. Livingston?

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON,

      I have not made that statement.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Bob Livingston,”

        THANKS FOR THE REPLY, SIR. I ENJOY YOUR SITE.

        I THOUGHT THOSE COMMENTS WERE SUSPICIOUS. BOTH “samurai” AND “sam1966″ CLOSE THEIR COMMENTS WITH THE “god AND PATRIOT” SLOGAN.

        AGAIN, THANKS Mr. Livingston,
        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      • sam1966

        I have already apologized for such statements. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “sam1966,”

        IF YOU ARE TALKING TO ME, I AM JUST NOW READING YOUR APOLOGY. APOLOGY ACCEPTED.

        IF YOU HAD MADE AN ATTACK ON ME, I WOULD HAVE EITHER IGNORED IT, OR, RESPONDED TO YOU DIRECTLY. BY MENTIONING Bob Livingston, YOU “GOT MY ATTENTION!” HE IS THE OWNER OF THIS SITE. I CARE ABOUT WHAT Mr. Livingston HAS TO SAY. THIS WAS A BAD SITUATION. I AM GLAD IT WAS HANDLED.

        • sam1966

          No problem Chris. Let’s keep up the good fight for this country. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • actual socialist

    P.S i,m guessing that you , samurai and sook yee have threesomes frequenly

    • sam1966

      This is you Kang! Man up and tell us your real name, you coward. Things like this are againt the policies here. The personal attack. Classic 5th column strategy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • actual socialist

        I must admit that threesome crack crossed the line i apologize to you and your wife and for the record it,s me eric jones i had to change my monicker on a realated note you never told me what a ” kang ” is

    • JON

      I didn’t think you crossed the line with your wise crack. Sometimes, one can get so frustrated with what people say on here, that you get pissed off and have to say something. Even though it might not be of a nicer character.

      I’ve had the same problem with sam1966/samurai. He kept accusing me of being this “kang” person. I explained myself over and over , but both he and his wife sook wouldn’t let up! He has a real attitude problem. Maybe it’s his uber “military” mentality.

      • actual socialist

        Yeah i am just about ready to declare him a lost cause thanks for understanding by-the-way have you figured out who or what a ” kang ” is? i have asked him twice but he just ignores the queston

  • http://www.melvsconstruction.embarqspace.com Mel

    Just because some one refuses to agree with you doesn’t make them a hate group, Gay’s want to justify their life style because deep down inside they are uncomfortable for the way they live and the way to combat guilt is to attack others that don’t agree with them or support them..

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      In just a few words, you captured the ESSENCE of the whole thing!!!

      In their hearts & souls , they know it is wrong to live that way & their whole crusade is to convince & bully everyone into believing it is NORMAL !!!

      • sam1966

        I second that motion. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • actual socialist

        What revisionist historey book have you been reading? the homosexuals were and still are the ones being bullied by the police in th 60,s and 70,s and by people like you today

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          They & their enablers are the bullies now !!!

          • actual socialist

            That,s just your martyer syndrome talking

    • eddie47d

      …and the homophobics deride gays because THEY are uncomfortable with someone who is not like them. I would say there is more truth to my statement in how those homophobics enact laws to keep gays in their place. Gays have accepted who they are and heterosexuals keep telling them it can’t be so. Heterosexuals want to continue to have power over gays and that has been true throughout history. There are hundreds of examples in how gays have been treated and it is never in their favor.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        The worm has certainly turned…now a 12, 13 yr.old can say that think Homosexuality is wrong & not of God & get charged with a hate crime….an opinion BILLIONS of souls, throughout all different cultures, share around the world….

        There’s a very good reason, homosexuals used to stay in the closet & commit suicides….they know like all of us, it’s just not right, it’s a disease, a perversion & all the things society has done to make it “NORMAL” will hurt them in the long run, in their future embodiments on earth.

        Dan Cathy is a good example , he hires them, he serves them, he just does not think the state should sanction it & let them be married, and I agree.

        • actual socialist

          The vast majority of them think that because they have been brainwashed by dinosaurs like you

      • sam1966

        We are told t hate sin, not the sinner, and to abhor evil. Gays are treated this way due to their sinful,pervese lifestyle and the evil that comes with it. How about a group of these queers attacking a homeless man for reading the Bible? This is not peaceful, godly actions. Neeeeed to wake up and smell the coffee Ed-duh. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          The only thing sinful about this situation are fools like you using websites like this to spread your hateful filth

          • http://naver samurai

            What’s wrong AS (kang), or is it JON? Did we hit a nerve? If you don’t like what we are saying, then leave. I’ve told the truth, but you lie about there being a gay gene. There is no such thing and you cannot prove it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country an fear of God to be a patriot.

            P.S. Why don’t you get yourself hobby and stop wastng space on this site?

          • actual socialist

            I don,t leave because someone has to be hear to inject rationallity in to the coversation p,s i don,t know who jon is but i already like him better then you and for the third time WHAT THE HELL IS A KANG

      • JON

        To sam666: You said “Gays are treated this way due to their sinful, perverse lifestyle and the evil that comes with it.”

        Not even close. Gay people are treated like that because of self-righteous a**holes like you. You justify your actions because of a f**king book! You are so damned pathetic!

        You spew your ideological bulls**t and then say “FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!” It means nothing when your have a spiritually dead interior!

        Another one of your empty bulls**t statements “You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot”. It means nothing!

        You’re not a man of God. You’re a man of your own ego!

        I feel sorry for you and your pathetic little life!

        • actual socialist

          AMEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • sam1966

            I must have hit another nerve. Sheesh, what a long winded personal attack. Classic 5th column strategy. Why don’t you look in your Bible ad prove me wrong? I invite your less intelligent mind to try. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

            P.S. If you think I’m so bad, what about the queers that attacked a homeless man for reading a Bible? I’ll bet you support such actions don’t you?

          • actual socialist

            Saying amen is a long winded rant? it ain’t nothing compared to the holy rolling taraids you’re capable of

        • sam1966

          You sure can rant, can’t you boy? If you think I’m wrong, prove it and seek some mental help. Here is my proof:

          Leviticus 18:22
          Leviticus 20:13
          Romans 1:24-32
          1st Corinthians 6:9-10
          1st Timothy 1:8-11
          Jude 1:7

          You can even read about this in the Book of Revelation. I must really be hitting some nerves for you to gang up on me, you little minded people in your little worlds. I remember Libertytrain telling me that your ilk tend to attack you more when you are on to something. Grow up and seek psychological help before it is too late. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to b a patriot. This leaves out JON and AS.

      • Ms.Young

        Thank you for your statement eddie47d
        Luke 12:4-5
        “I’m speaking to you as dear friends. Don’t be bluffed into silence or insincerity by the threats of religious bullies. True, they can kill you, but then what can they do? There’s nothing they can do to your soul, your core being. Save your fear for God, who holds your entire life—body and soul—in his hands.
        Turn your back on evil, work for the good and don’t quit. God loves this kind of thing, never turns away from his friends.
        My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God and experiences a relationship with God. The person who refuses to love doesn’t know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can’t know him if you don’t love. This is how God showed his love for us: God sent his only Son into the world so we might live through him. This is the kind of love we are talking about—not that we once upon a time loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as a sacrifice to clear away our sins and the damage they’ve done to our relationship with God.

        2 Corinthians 5:16-20
        Because of this decision we don’t evaluate people by what they have or how they look. We looked at the Messiah that way once and got it all wrong, as you know. We certainly don’t look at him that way anymore. Now we look inside, and what we see is that anyone united with the Messiah gets a fresh start, is created new. The old life is gone; a new life burgeons! Look at it! All this comes from the God who settled the relationship between us and him, and then called us to settle our relationships with each other. God put the world square with himself through the Messiah, giving the world a fresh start by offering forgiveness of sins. God has given us the task of telling everyone what he is doing. We’re Christ’s representatives. God uses us to persuade men and women to drop their differences and enter into God’s work of making things right between them. We’re speaking for Christ himself now: Become friends with God; he’s already a friend with you.
        Matthew 5:43-47
        “You’re familiar with the old written law, ‘Love your friend,’ and its unwritten companion, ‘Hate your enemy.’ I’m challenging that. I’m telling you to love your enemies. Let them bring out the best in you, not the worst. When someone gives you a hard time, respond with the energies of prayer, for then you are working out of your true selves, your God-created selves. This is what God does. He gives his best—the sun to warm and the rain to nourish—to everyone, regardless: the good and bad, the nice and nasty. If all you do is love the lovable, do you expect a bonus? Anybody can do that. If you simply say hello to those who greet you, do you expect a medal? Any run-of-the-mill sinner does that

    • actual socialist

      On the contrery homosexuals are upset because they are tired of hiding who they are just so prudes dont get upset

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        There’s not too much hiding going on anymore !!!!!!!!!!!

        • actual socialist

          Your right ther to bold to hide anymore THANK THE HEAVENS

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “actual socialist,”

        THAT MAY BE TRUE, BUT, THERE WAS NO NEED FOR A GROUP OF YOUNG CAUCASIANS TO VERBALLY ATTACK AN ELDERLY-NEGRO MALE. THOSE CAUCASIANS’ PREJUDICE OVERWHELMED ANY EMPHATHY SOMEONE MAY HAVE FOR THEIR CAUSE.

        • actual socialist

          And since when do you care about any one attacking a’ negro “

          • NC

            I think we should ALL care about an elderly man being attacked. Your post makes me wonder if you care.

          • actual socialist

            I,d care if he was hurt but the thought of a racist like allen caring threw me a little

          • NC

            You WOULD care, or you DO care?

          • actual socialist

            I don,t know all the details like which verses he was reading so i,m gonna stand by what i said earlier

          • NC

            Why does it matter what verses he was reading? He was reading it for himself, not TO them. What matters is that a bunch of thugs attacked him.

          • actual socialist

            And what proof do you have it was protesters and not gangsters?

        • NC

          Thanks for reiterating the main point. The thread has taken on a life of it’s own.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “actual socialist,” HATING NEGROES DOES NOT MEAN I WANT TO SEE THEM HURT.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        MANY PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE DISCUSSING WHETHER A GENE EXISTS FOR HOMOSEXUALITY. I DO NOT CARE.

        WHEN AN ADOLESCENT BOY BECOMES SEXUALLY AROUSED FOR THE FIRST TIME, HE PREVIOUSLY KNEW FROM MAKING OBSERVATIONS FROM HIS ENVIRONMENT “WHAT HE LIKED.” THEREFORE, THAT FIRST STATE OF SEXUAL AROUSAL WAS BASED ON THE GENDER OF THAT PERSON. IF THAT PERSON WAS MALE, THE ADOLESCENT BOY IS HOMOSEXUAL.

        SINCE MANY PEOPLE ON THIS SITE ARE OLDER, I WILL SAY THIS ABOUT GENDER ROLES AND IDENTIFICATION. I AM SPEAKING FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF LIFE BEFORE CIRCA 1975. ALTHOUGH PREPUBESCENT BOYS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO RECOGNIZE THEIR FEELINGS IN A SEXUAL MANNER, THEY DO KNOW HOW TO RECOGNIZE THEM NON-SEXUALLY. THE FIRST DAY OF KINDERGARTEN IS A “GREAT CULTURE SHOCK” TO BOYS WHO ARE “DIFFERENT.” FATHERS, BROTHERS AND UNCLES DID PROVIDE BOYS WITH “MANLY” TOYS LIKE, BALLS AND “Tonka-” DUMP TRUCKS. DURING RECESS AT SCHOOL, THESE BOYS WANTED TO WRESTLE IN THE SCHOOLYARD. YET – THINGS WERE DIFFERENT FOR THE “DIFFERENT” BOY; THIS BOY ENJOYED “IN-DOOR ACTIVITIES” – i. e., READING, TELEVISION, ETC. ALTHOUGH HIS FATHER BOUGHT HIM A BALL AND A “Tonka” TRUCK, THE “DIFFERENT” BOY HAD NO INTEREST; IF HIS FATHER WAS DOMINATING, THE “DIFFERENT” BOY WOULD PLAY WITH THE BALL AND TRUCK IN HIS FATHER’S PRESENCE. ONCE HIS FATHER’S “BACK WAS TURNED,” THE “DIFFERENT” BOY STOPPED PLAYING WITH THE “MANLY” TOYS. OF COURSE, MOTHER SAW E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G! A “DIFFERENT” BOY’S MOTHER OFTEN SERVES AS A SHIELD AND LIAISON BETWEEN THE “DIFFERENT” BOY AND HIS FATHER.

        MY POINT IS, MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE ADULT-MALE HOMOSEXUALS WERE CLOSE TO THEIR MOTHERS AS BOYS; AND, THIS IS WHY THEY ARE HOMOSEXUAL. IN REALITY, MANY HOMOSEXUAL BOYS ONLY UTILIZED THEIR MOTHERS AS “PROTECTORS” FROM THEIR FATHERS.

        ADULT-MALE HOMOSEXUALS WHO ARE EFFEMINATE ["queens" AND "drag queens"], LEARNED THAT BEHAVIOR DURING ADOLESCENCE FROM FEMALE CLASSMATES. BECAUSE SCHOOLGIRLS OFTEN SERVE AS “BEARDS” [SHIELDS] FOR HOMOSEXUAL BOYS, THESE BOYS “PICK-UP ON” THESE GIRLS’ INTERESTS IN FASHION, COSMETICS, ETC. THERE IS A CORRELATION BETWEEN A SCHOOLGIRL’S FEMALE IDOL AND A “drag queen’s” ON-STAGE ALIAS.

  • Robert

    me thinks those favoring male-male or female-female “marriage” “sexual” relationships yet are only on this planet because of a male-female relationship protest too much – indicating they know they’re wrong so they just scream the loudest… even their biology screams at them that what they’re doing is unnatural. duhhh!

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      Where will it end???? I’m amazed that THREE people (of any combination) have not tried to get married, or that since they say it is “about Love & Committment”, a person has not tried to marry their dog, cat or horse…I guess Bestiality is not yet accepted as an “alternative lifestyle”..

      People can live anyway they want to, as long as they are not bothering or hurting anyone or any part of life, but when the State sanctions perversion, citizens MUST SPEAK OUT!!!

      • JON

        “a person has not tried to marry their dog, cat or horse…I guess Bestiality is not yet accepted as an “alternative lifestyle”..”

        You win the “stupid statement of the day” award! Please grow up or educate yourself!

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Mark my words, sooner or later someone will make that argument !
          Have a nice weekend!

      • Peter

        Jon, do your research before making statements like that. In the Netherlands there are already moves by other groups to legitimize their lifestyle choices. These groups include pedophiles, incest groups and bestialists. After all, as the homosexual lobby tells us all the time, ‘love is love’ right? Pffft.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Thank you, My good man!! This slope is as slippery as it gets!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Good posts Peter and “O”! I just want to say to not hold your breath. Jon and AS, in my opinion, are the same hateful, full of guilt, and depressed little person. Jon? AS? Research? Ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            My coscience is clear because i know i have never known hatred towards any soul you on the other hand hate anyone who dos,nt follow your warped ideaollogy

      • actual socialist

        You forcing them to hide in ther homes like leppers is the only perversion here

    • actual socialist

      And what legal body gave a bum like you the right to decide what is normal or not

      • http://naver samurai

        The Bible and God give us that right and the courts have no say on the matter. Remember, marriage and behavior are not covered in the Constitution.

        “Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ.”

        Rev. Jonathan Dickinson

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          If the costitution don,t cover it it,s fare game for the courts deal with it

          • sam1966

            Wrong, wrong, wrong. Care to cite a source to try to back up that lie? Didn’t the courts intervene with Prop 8 in California, though it was deemed as Constitional by the State of California? Need to study just a little more. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            So let me get this straight you the 20 year vet are defending a UNconstitutional action

          • sam1966

            I said Prop 8 was Constitutional. Need to comprehend what you read before you answer. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            see priviousw comment

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            BTW, the original judge that overturned the Prop 8. vote was Vaughn Walker, who DID NOT DISCLOSE HE WAS A HOMOSEXUAL & IN A RELATIONSHIP…..a bit of conflict of interest???? the Whole thing should’ve been thrown out…the Liberal, Progressive Elites do not play by the rules, because they know better than you how to run your life, so by any means necessary is how they roll…

            Look at Kagan on Obamacare, the damn woman worked on defending it in court while a the DOJ, did she recuse herself??, no!!!! Justrice Roberts should have made he step down on deciding on it.

      • Peter

        I wouldn’t bother sam, with every post little actual socialist is only proving how utterly illiterate and unintelligent he is.

        • actual socialist

          here,s a thought petey if you want to insult me GROW A PAIR AND SAY IT TO MY FACE oh wait i,m sorry that would require you to be a MAN

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            No, actually that would require him to know where you live & knock on your door,and for you to open door & see his face!

          • actual socialist

            LOL

          • Samdromeda

            The promotion of violence is a demonic process. Have you ever noticed how it is used to destroy communication and divide a conquer. This is the mindset of the destroyer. Demons do let go of their hosts but they do effect their thinking and behavior. They want mankind to worship them as gods. They know that they have influence when the individual brings them pleasure and excitement. Addictive behaviors are like this and strong passions. Truth does not change them because they are having too much fun. The host individual however is miserable and at best totally deceived. Debate is one of their greatest enjoyments as it enables them to twist the facts of reality and amass a coalition of individuals who oppose themselves apparently of their own free will. It is a subtle form of spiritual insurgency and it does destroy nations.

          • actual socialist

            I have no clue what that means sorry

      • sam1966

        Right on Peter! Let’s keep up the good fight to get this country back to our Christian founding, Christian principles, and back to God. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Peter

        I would be more than happy to comply AS, anytime you’re ready.

        • http://naver samurai

          I guess that AS hasn’t herd this one.

          “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of The Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian. This is a Christian nation.”

          SCOTUS-Church of the Holy Trinity vs United States 1892

          See AS, the Bible and Christian beliefs are what we are founded on. I guess your ilk had nothing to do with our founding. Tisk, tisk, tisk! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            i don,t know why i,m typing this since you will just ignore it but here goes we were founded on life liberty the pursuit of happiness equallity and democracey not religious fanatasism p.s what makes chrishten fundementalism any defrent then islamic fundementalism

          • sam1966

            You are part right about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but after that you err. First, we are a republic and not a democracy. Second, the freedoms you talk about are mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. “…with certain unalienable rights, endowed by their Creator (GOD), of these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” These freedoms and liberties we have are blessings (endowed means blessed) from God and nothing else. Even our founding fathers were knowledgeable to this and mentioned God’s name 4 times in it, the Articles of Confederation, the Preamble to the Constitution, made references to Jesus in all of them (Article VII of the Constitution). I’m a historian, history teacher, and retired soldier. I’m not lying to you, but if you don’t believe me, that’s your right and your opinion. Many of your ilk have tried to prove me wrong on this site, but have failed miserably. About the same thing was said at the state level earlier than 1892.

            “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise. In this sense and to this extent, our civilizations and our institutions are emphatically Christian.”

            Illinois Supreme Court 1885
            Richmond vs. Moore

            Also how about our federal government?

            “The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.”

            U.S. Congress 1782

            “By Law the United States Congress adds to U.S. coinage: ‘In God We Trust.’”

            U.S. Congress 1864

            “The great, vital, and conservative element in our system is the belief of our people in the pure doctrines and the divine truths of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.”

            U.S. Congress 1854

            “Had the people, during the Revolution, had a suspicion of any attempt to war against Christianity, that the Revolution would have been strangled in its cradle. In this age, there can be no substitute for Christianity. That was the religion of the founders of the republic and they expected it to remain the religion of their descendants.”

            Congress, U.S. House Judiciary Committee, 1854

            Or how about this one from Thomas Jefferson?

            “The practice of morality being necessary for the well being of society, He (GOD) has taken care to impress its precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleness of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral principles of Jesus and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in His discourses.”

            Thomas Jefferson

            If you go to this site, you’ll see he even signed things “In the Year of our Lord Christ.”

            http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=22345

            I hope this help awaken you to how we were founded and not on your own thinking. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • actual socialist

            I see no difference between a democracey and a republic and unless the costitution specificilly says god as far as i,m concerned it,s open to interpretation

          • sam1966

            Sorry dude/dudette, but we are a republic. The founders did not want a democracy, because democracies become oligarcies and they remembered how the ones in Greece fell apart. They didn’t want the same thing to happen here. Also, the word democracy is not found anywhere in the Constitution. The Preamble does make a reference to God.

            “…secure the blessings of liberty…”

            Preamble, U.S. Constitution

            This refers us back to the Declaration of Independence which says all of our rights are “Endowed by their Creator (GOD).” If our liberties are blessings, then they are endowed by their Creator. Open to interpretation? The Constitution was plainly written as to what it was saying. To leave it to interpretation is a foolish act at best. You neeeeed to wake up, smell the coffee, and make that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            Democracey is popuar vote and creater can about a dozen different things you merly CHOOSE to interpret it as the chrishten god

          • Samdromeda

            Creator is a direct title of God. From sub atomic particles to stars and planets to man and government. There is a danger in using a crowbar on understanding. Just because you can does not mean that you should. Nevertheless where does this perceived opening to interpretation lead?

          • actual socialist

            To abondaning old supertisions and finding out where we’re really from perhaps even where we’re going as well

          • Samdromeda

            Thank you for your honesty. May your search bear fruit for you.

          • actual socialist

            Thank you

          • sam1966

            To bad the only fruit here is AS. I remember reading in a very old book. “They will seek for the truth, but it will be far from them.” Why don’t you answer my posts to where I used the Constitution, Articles of Confedration, Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson, SCOTUS, Congress, and the Illinois Supreme Court as sources? I see, since they didn’t include the Bible you are not going to rant at me.

            “The fool says there is no God within his own heart”

            Psalms 14:1

            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          My short term memorey stinks what are you refering to?

      • sam1966

        Here is what you and your ilk sound like on the news around Christmas time AS.

        http://www.video.foxnews.com/v/1275174567001/atheists-go-after-in-god-we-trust

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          Ther are no TRUE liberals on the news these days

  • http://personalliberty.com 32eagle

    I am glad to join the crowd and say gayness is sickening and disgusting-our military should not allow any gays and Mr.Cathy is a great man and his food is excellent-our government has become part of the problem because of barack obama-that worthless illegal alien with his sealed records and attitude problem has sabotaged a mountain’s worth of useful things and added on his garbage-he truly is our worst and first immoral , illegal ,and traitorous president

    • JON

      You need to focus only on your own relationship and butt out of others. The only thing that is sickening and disgusting, is your assumptive attitude!

      • sam1966

        Care to look in the mirror on that comment? Though you are the butt of a few jokes on this site. No butts about it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • JON

        To sam1966: I wasn’t addressing you! Butt the hell out! Stop harassing people by accusing them of being someone they are not! Once again, you’re attempting to be funny. You are nothing more than a bad joke with a small mind. Please stop embarrassing yourself!

      • sam1966

        It is my God given right to freely speak, so deal with it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • actual socialist

      And the winner for backword redneck of the year is ……. 32eagle!!!!!!!!!!

      • Peter

        And the winner of illiterate imbecile of the year is….you guessed it…actual socialist!

  • Chris

    I am tolerant of the gay community as I have friends and a relative that’s gay. One was born gay and the other just gave up on hetrosexual relationships. However,that is between them and God,so it’s not my place to judge. I don’t feel any reason or need to lash out at the gay community because they’re different the same as I don’t need to lash out at different ethnicities because they’re different skin color or religion. However,I DON’T want them pushing their beliefs and practises on me. Once they do(and so VERY few attempt this),my tolerance ends,not for that community,but for THAT person. There’s no reason to hate a whole community because of one bad apple in the bunch.
    Anyhow…relating to chick fil-a. The gay community might not know much about chicken,but I am sure they can tell you all about their favorite c**k.

    • sam1966

      Sorry Chris, but there is no gay gene. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

    Go back in the closet and get out of our faces, tinker bells, your a insult to men and women kind. The only thing you can produce is passion, no real love to do what you do to each other, more homosexual on homosexual crime then anyone hating you. That is a police fact, so get in the dark where no one can see you being against nature.

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Benjamin Fox,”

      IN A TWISTED SORT-OF-WAY, I AGREE WITH SOME OF YOUR STATEMENTS. FOR ME, A COMMITTED-HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONSHIP IS ABOUT SEX – NOT, LOVE. YES, TWO PARTNERS CAN SHARE VALUES AND INTERESTS; BUT, NOT A DEEP-EMOTIONAL LOVE BASED ON SHARING “EACH OTHERS’ LOT,” LIKE HETEROSEXUAL SPOUSES. MOST HOMOSEXUAL BOYS WERE TOLD BY THEIR FATHERS TO ADHERE TO GENDER ROLES, IN REFERENCE TO SELF-RELIANCE AS MEN.

      THESE CONTEMPORARY “gays” WHO WANT TO MARRY HAVE NO REALISTIC VIEW OF WHAT IT MEANS FOR A MAN TO TRULY LOVE ANOTHER MAN. OUTSIDE OF SEX, IT YOU WERE TO ASK THE AVERAGE MALE HOMOSEXUAL WHY DO YOU LOVE YOUR PARTNER, MOST COULD NOT ANSWER IN A WAY SUPPORTIVE OF, “SPOUSAL-HOOD.”

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

        It’s a choice, nobody was born to be homosexual, so if they can’t control their passions they want to make them right, sorry, doesn’t fly and I know what I’m talking about, choices, Gods way or satan’s way, a choice, something the unborn don’t have.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          As crude as B.FOX can be, he’s right here, the #1 law in Cosmos is Free Will…that is why America is so sacred a nation, because the soul has more Free Will choices here, alas, that lead to much darkness engaged in by our citizens!

        • actual socialist

          As modern science will tell you there is a gene for homosexuallity just like everything else deal with it

          • NC

            Actual socialist. At age 19 you haven’t really learned to read master’s degree level research, just the soundbites that make it into the news. I explained that in a previous post to you. You may think you are listening to both sides like your mother taught you, but in observing your many posts I don’t see you listening to anyone.

            One or two very small studies (25 subjects) found a correlation between a gene and homosexuality. That was a decade ago and no follow-up studies have been published. That suggests that they were unable to replicate the results–if they had, believe me it would have been all over the headlines.

            A correlation says nothing about a cause-effect relationship and is not proof of anything. A correlation simply observes that two things exist at the same time. For example: we have a dog barking and an old shed that collapses. We could posit that the dog’s barking caused the shed to collapse, that the shed’s collapse caused the dog to bark, or that an outside cause (earthquake?) caused both the shed to collapse and the dog to bark.

      • IB6UB9

        To Benjamin Fox: It’s a choice, nobody was born to be HETEROSEXUAL so if they can’t control their passions they want to make them right, sorry, doesn’t fly and I know what I’m talking about, choices, Gods way or satan’s way, a choice, something the unborn don’t have.

      • Peter

        AS you are more and more displaying your abject ignorance of scientific FACT.
        There is NO SUCH THING as a homosexual gene.
        There are many causal factors, but genetics is NOT one of them except in very rare cases of physical genital deformity.
        Do some research before opening you mouth just to change feet.

        • actual socialist

          So the majority of scientists on this matter are wrong?

      • sam1966

        There is no gay gene AS! Stop lying! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          Just because you are to stubborn to accept it don,t make it a lie

          • http://naver samurai

            Since you post no facts or sources, just pinheaded opinions, you carry no weight in this debate. Isn’t it obvious to you that you are just lying and are the the most dense and smallest mind here? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            You base every other thing you say on events written over two thousand years ago and you think you have the right to preach abouts getting facts? hahahahahahahahahaha

      • sam1966

        SSDD, eh AS? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          I could ask you the same queston

      • http://naver samurai

        Is that the best you can do AS? Care to cite a source showing there is a gene? Your little science book and left leaning sites don’t count. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          a growing number of scientists agree it exists so how about YOU bring actual scientific proof it dosn,t exist in stead of just repeating biblical phrases?

          • sam1966

            So what? There were scientists that used to agree in Hitler’s Germany that the Negro man and the ape were the same and their skulls were the same size and shape, but we know that is not true. Just because some scientists say something, doesn’t make it true. Many lies like the big bang theory, the world being flat, the sun revolving around the earth, evolution, ufos,etc. But alas! Telling you the truth is just a complete waste of time as you do not posses the capacity to understnd. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. These things leave you out of the picture.

          • actual socialist

            i am going to say this once more in the hope it might penetrate that five feet thick skull of yours evolution is an undisputible fact of life p.s so is the big bang theory

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Evolution is one of the great lies of all-time !!! We were created Perfect in the Divine Image. There was nothing to ascend into that is higher than that…..we have actually de-volved.

            INNER MEANING OF IMAGE= “I MAGIC”

          • actual socialist

            perfection is the ultimite myth only when we realize that can we truly better ourselves and as for our ” devolving ” time goes foward not back that,s all i can say to that

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            No pun intended…but, yes time goes forward, but souls are like monkeys they climb high in one embodiment, then fall in the next……

            What God is concerned with is SOUL PERFECTION not human perfection, but then with your consciousness deeply entrenched in the human, secular ways, you will not acknowledge that & therefore will be cut off from your source of Divinity & PERFECTION & EVERY GOOD & PERFECT GIFT…….you will never truly conquer darkness or truly be fulfilled as long as you think this way….You & many millions, perhaps billions of others.

            “I HAVE SAID YE ARE SONS & DAUGHTERS OF THE MOST HIGH GOD” (PSALM 82:6)

          • actual socialist

            exept darkness can not be conqured because without it light would cease to exist

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            That is without a doubt the most ignorant thing you’ve uttered yet !!! What do you think Heaven & Nirvana are….realms & spheres of PURE LIGHT !!!!

          • actual socialist

            what i meant is that if darkness didn,t exist we would’nt even know what light is walk in a room without windows and close the door behind you shut out the light darkness engulfs the room in less then half a second point a flashlight toward a corner of the room and turn it on the darkness disapers as quick as it came they need each other because if one didn,t exist the other would have no purpose

          • Samdromeda

            With light there is no hiding in darkness. All is revealed. The boundaries are established by light. Darkness is not a part of the creative process. However it is often the end result of destruction and is a characteristic of oblivion.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Only things of reality hold immortality…the darkness exists now, but it is not real & will ultimately be transmuted by the Sacred Fires of God, back into its original perfection….”GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE” (HEBREWS 12:39)

          • actual socialist

            please see responce to ooopeeert

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            The Homosexual Lobby is demanding new concessions from the U.S. Military.

            Emboldened by their advances with the Repeal of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell (DADT), homosexual activists are now focused on pushing for transsexual and cross-dressing persons to be allowed to serve openly in the armed forces.

            The radical military group Outserve has christened these individuals the “New DADT” and they are demanding that the military drop all remaining regulations and restrictions regarding proper behavior and even mental stability.

            The American Psychological Association rightfully defines anyone who thinks they are a different gender than their biology as mentally ill.

            And the military agrees with them. Anyone found to be transsexual or a cross-dresser is discharged on medical grounds.

            But the Homosexual Lobby can’t stand that.

            Not only are they insisting that these sick individuals be allowed to openly serve, they are demanding special privileges to accommodate them as well!

            They’re arguing that soldiers should be allowed to decide what gender they are treated as.

            This means that a fully biological man would be able to declare himself a woman — and then have the right to dress in a woman’s uniform and share living quarters with women… even bathrooms and shower facilities!

            The idea that America would subject the men and women serving in uniform to the whims and depravations of a perverted minority is horrifying.

            Our soldiers and sailors deserve better than that.

            That’s why Public Advocate is doing everything possible to push back the radical Homosexual Agenda and restore the prestige of our military.

            Sincerely,

            Eugene Delgaudio
            President, Public Advocate of the United States

          • actual socialist

            i find it very interesting how you preach enlightenment but are so quick to lash out at something you do not understand

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            There’s no lashing out….do you want a guy dressed in pantyhose defending you in war????

          • actual socialist

            depends is he a good shot?

          • sam1966

            This would depend, would the queer be shot by U.S. 5.56mm ammo or the enemy’s 7.62mm ammo? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            with any luch they would be the one putting the bullet in your brain cause as long as they can do what we ask them to do it don,t matter to me if they are srtaight,gay,bi,metro,trans, whatever a brave person is still brave no matter what they do in bed

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            If they were really brave they would face the dark insanity they are engaging in & try to overcome it & live in the Light of God!

          • actual socialist

            And if YOU were really brave you,d stop taking potshots at them from behind a computer

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            I’m actually sending them light & love for their eternal salvation, like I do for all mankind, including you!

          • actual socialist

            no in your ego you THINK you saving them but in REALLITY all you are doing is condesending and belittleing them

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            I’m not doing anything, it is the Holy Spirit that does it through me……you don’t understand ALL LIFE IS ONE !!!

          • actual socialist

            Do you have ANY idea how many others will INSIST that the ” holy spirit ” speaks through them? thousands upon thousands and guess what? i don.t belive them either no god would belittle ther own creations that my friend is human arrogance and that is on YOU

          • Samdromeda

            When the Mongoose goes grocery shopping I do not believe that the Cobra is interested in understanding it.. This is life and death to the nation. Like the coils of a python it will progressively suffocate this nation. It is not an issue of individual freedoms but it is an issue of imposed wills within the national consciousness.

          • actual socialist

            but when you tell them they can only be themselves in secret but have to act the way you want them to in public that is NOT imposing?

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Try this one , AS…….This is the Throat Chakra Mantra (THROAT CHAKRA IS THE POWER CENTER OF THE BODY…..GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE FIRST WITH SOUND THEN LIGHT….”OM”, THE FIRST SOUND THAT CREATED THE UNIVERSE, and that is still resonating within the radio waves as the Universe continues to expand)

            THROAT CHAKRA MANTRA
            ___________________________________________________

            I AM Life of God’s Direction,
            Blaze they Light of Truth in me,
            Focus here all God’s Perfection,
            From all discord set me free.

            Make and keep me anchored ever,
            In the Justice of thy plan-
            I AM the Presence of Perfection,
            Living the Life of God in man!

          • actual socialist

            the universe was created billions of years ago in the big bang not as poetic as your thing but it can be proven

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Who do you think designed & inspired & set forth the energy for the Big Bang ?

          • actual socialist

            i don,t know but if there was creaters ther would have to be more then one

          • sam1966

            God is perfect and is no myth. Now your ability to comprehend true statements is a myth, for we know you cannot. Care to show some proof that God doesn’t exist? What proof and evidence can you provide that shows atheism to be accuate and correct? No science books allowed. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • actual socialist

            i don,t have to prove he dosn,t exist YOU are the ones insisting he exists therfore the burden of proof is on you

          • Samdromeda

            The proof is that you exist and you are the express image of Him. God is reproducing Himself. You cannot deny your own existence.

          • actual socialist

            but i have NEVER denyied my existance but my existance only proves that my mother had sex with a man it has nothing to do with divinity

          • Samdromeda

            A convenient response. Divinity is a code word for those who deny the reality and work of one who created all life. It smacks of the mind set of the destroyer. Only he cannot deny being created any more than you can deny the human matrix being set in motion by one who created mankind as part of the process of reproducing gods better known as the sons of God. Divinity has been attributed to political and false religious leaders in this world. In the truest sense I agree with you divinity has nothing to do with you being on this planet nor does your mother impart understanding to you as part of the birth process.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            EVERYONE: HEAR THE WORDS OF THE MASTER: ” MAN KNOW THYSELF”

            “The existence of God cannot be proven through reasoning – the arguments used are so weak! And it is an insult to the Lord to even imagine that reasoning, however subtle, will prove his existence. How can you prove to the blind that there really is light without giving them back their sight?
            So a spiritual Master is not concerned with proving the existence of God or of a world we cannot see beyond our physical world. He takes the existence of God and the invisible world as the implicit foundation of his work; it is what he builds on. When he has to address his disciples, he does not ask himself whether or not they have faith. And because he acts in this way, the day will come when God is no longer a matter for doubt or questioning for them, and they will be able to communicate with the realities of the invisible world.”

            MASTER OMRAAM

          • Samdromeda

            Time is the simplest thing.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Not sure what this comment means…but, you’ll never convince AS of God though the human mind & its reasonings…he has to have an epiphany!

          • actual socialist

            exept that no ONE being has the power to create all this if it was created by divine powers ther would have to be more then one

          • Samdromeda

            How many do you want? What tools would you create to build a universe like this? We have limited thinking. God is family.

          • actual socialist

            You’re right about one thing we have limited thinking so i can,t possibily know how many ther are but i just don,t belive that one being can be so powerfull

          • Samdromeda

            Evolution was denied by its originator. Judging by the degeneration of human character I would say that the human race is devolving. We refuse to apply revealed knowledge and continue to poison our environment with our “enlightened ” approach to everything. We are re-manufacturing the dark ages in the 21st century with advanced destructive technologies. Nothing can be more poisonous to the educational process than feeding the student lies and expecting him to thrive. The missing dimension in education is truth.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            I agree with you about evolution…it’s a crock !! The missing dimension in your analysis is the Fallen Angels, the Watchers (SEE; BOOK OF ENOCH), The Laggards, the Nephilim and other dark forces that have taken over this planet & have lead the Sons & Daughters of God astray for millenia now….their time is up, their Final Judgment is descending as we are now firmly in The New Age of Aquarius & they will be cast into the Lake Of Sacred Fire never to darken the earth again…then, souls of Light will start to run the governments, economies & cultures of the nations!!

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            “For elements to hold together, there has to be a thought, a force or an entity to ensure their cohesion; otherwise, they will scatter. So, for a being to be alive, there has to be a point somewhere, a centre holding all the cells in their body together, and we call this point, this centre, the spirit. When the spirit leaves the body, there is no longer cohesion between the particles, and the body disintegrates. This law can be observed in all spheres – mechanics, astronomy, physics, chemistry, biology, psychology…
            Those who understand this law try to base their life on a single point, on a fundamental idea. They no longer allow all kinds of contradictory elements in their head and heart that will end up fighting each other. Instead, they have just one thought, one divine idea, around which all the rest comes together. Then the powers dormant within them begin to awaken and come to support them.”

            MASTER OMRAAM

          • actual socialist

            charles darwin is not the origenater but it,s discoverer not the only part he got wrong was the rebuttle

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            Darwin just like the global warming alarmist scientists, fudged quite a bit of his data

          • actual socialist

            i find it iteresting how the ones who AGREE with you are never guilty of ” fudging ” anything

          • sam1966

            Since they are just theories and not scientific fact, they have not happened and do not exist. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need bot love of country and fear of God to bea patriot. This leaves you out.

          • actual socialist

            god is a theory evolution is fact see the differance? of course you don,t

          • http://naver samurai

            SSDD,eh AS? Since there is no evidnce of evolution, other than your rants, but you still haven’t God doesn’t exist. Stop posting lies. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            my rants and the 98% simerlarity betwee our dna and a chimps

          • sam1966

            Such evidence is irrelevant. The Nazi scientists used about the same physical evidence to compare Negros and apes, but they were proven wrong also. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            it,s not irrevelant just because you don,t belive it a lot of people used to belive if they walked far enough they would fall of the earth today we laugh at them

          • sam1966

            Read my prior postng. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

            P.S. You are trying to sound intellctual, but you are failing miserably.

          • actual socialist

            how would you know? the type of fundementilism you preach is the polar opposite of intellectualism

    • actual socialist

      Counter-offer how about you crawl back into tthe swamp you came out of

  • shearwater

    I guess the rude, unseemly guy rebuking the totally polite server at Chick fil A got his free water . . . and his purposeful moment of celebrity.through exercise of his free moral agency . . . and reaped the reward of being fired from his professional job with the company he worked for. Chick fil A doesn’t hate. As for the guy venting his spleen . . . well, if I were to do a psychoanalysis on him, there would be some kind of animus toward a totally innocent person/corporation.

  • Mark

    Anyone who’s a homo needs to keep that info to themself, except the psychiatrist that they should be seeing ASAP to get back to normal feelings of heterosexuality.

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

      phyco babble, they don’t have a clue, physical and mental but, not the third part, the spirit, so they aren’t as smart as they think they are. I have a daughter who degree is in that field and have shown her from the Bible God has all the answers in His book the Bible.

    • JON

      You’re a homo! I’m a homo! We are all homos! “homo-sapians”
      I guess your feeling pretty stupid now.

    • actual socialist

      If you have to obsess over other peoples sexuallity then you’re the one in need of a shrink

      • Peter

        No, you’re the one who needs a shrink AS.
        It’s the homosexual lobby who, by their own definition, identify themselves solely by their sexuality.
        We heterosexuals identify ourselve in many different ways, by our work, our roles as father or mother, sister or brother, aunt or uncle, son or daughter, then maybe by our interests or hobbies or political affiliations, but rarely if ever by our heterosexuality.
        That makes your camp (pun intended) the saddest people on earth if you have nothing to live for but your ‘in through the out door’ lifestyle choice.
        Go cry in your beer little boy, you have zero wisdom or intelligence.
        Oh wait, you’re only 19, can’t drink yet, oh well, have a nice little ‘sad soda’.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          And they can change that sexuality if they want too !!

          • actual socialist

            That theory has been discredited deaal with it

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            That’s no theory, I know some who have stopped this behavior!

          • actual socialist

            They are just lying to themselves to please people like you

        • actual socialist

          Because oh wise one no one ever persecuted you for being hetrosexual to persecute somthing is to politicize it

  • MTGIRL

    I have read very many cruel comments here. I do believe homosexual people should be able to follow their lifestyle – whether it be biological or emotional, who knows?? I believe there is some of each.
    I have worked with many gays and I’ve been in contact with gays outside of my workplace. I’ve dealt with good and bad – gays hitting on me when I made it clear I didn’t follow their lifestyle – just like men hitting on me when I’ve made it clear there was no interest on my part.
    But this?? just scares me – the bottom dwellers are coming out – I watched the video of the guy saying Chick-Fil-A was non-tolerant – and I can’t believe the hate being spewed – and the activists claiming it’s the restaurant people saying it’s all hatred coming out of their mouths…
    But we’ll take hold of this situation

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

      The homosexual group depends on people like you, it helps their cause.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        He’s right again..those who continually spout, “Oh, what’s the big deal…they’re not bothering anyone…BLAH BLAH BLAH”…you keep them living in lies….

        Then what do you say to your young children when you see 2 men kissing passionately in public?

  • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.754 Benjamin Fox

    Special right’s for the way a person depicts their passions, that is the real problem, in your face, accept our life style or we will go after you, wow, this jarhead is so afraid, I think I’ll just bend over and be un-natural so they can feel good, like heck.

  • Arthur

    I believe all of the GLBT bashing against Christians is a subterfuge to keep the Christians off balanced towards our real enemy (well than Obama) and that is the Muslims. Sharer’s law is encroaching into our legal system very quietly much as obama covered up his true birth records, college transcripts, passports and social security numbers. Ya know, to hide ones past as hard as he is doing, he must have some very serious skeletons in his closet, just as the Muslim claim they are for peace and love. Their example of peace and love have been graphic shown in the news lately with the torture and beheading of homosexuals and infidels, you know, like 98% most Americans..

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      There is quite a bit of credible evidence that Obama is also a homosexual, as is Rahm Emanuel.

      • actual socialist

        Hate to burst your bubble { not really } but if anyone in the goverment is gay it,s none of our buesness

        • sam1966

          It may not be my business, but I’ll bet the voters would like to know. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot

          • actual socialist

            OK seriously stop th god and countrey crap ther is nothing patriotic about you

          • sam1966

            I’ve served this country and protected your ilk for 20 years. That is more patriotic than you 2 combined. BTW, I remember reading, “Congess shall pass no laws…abridging the right of free speech…” It’s called the Constitution. Try reading it sometime. Ooops! I keep forgetting that your ilk can’t read. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

            Here is something about your messiah:

            http://www.politicalotcast.com/2012/08/is-president-obama-a-black-jesus-or-a-red-jesus/

          • actual socialist

            If i could,nt read i would,nt be able to type smart guy and you joined the army big whup so did mccain and look what it did to him and it,s so funny how you ” defend ” free seach yet if you were in charge it would be illegal to say your belief in evolution

          • http://naver samurai

            Shows you have no idea what service, honor, and duty to country means. Evolution is just a theory and not scientific fact. Everything on earth was created by Almighty God. Read Genesis 1 to open up your dense lib minds. But alas! Why should I tell you the truth, when you do not possess the capacity to understand it. Like it says in 1st Timothy, “They shall seek after the truth, but it will be far from them.” That is you and your ilk. I wouldn’t ban talking about evolution, just teach the students the truth and not refuted data. I’m glad I teach history to kids at my school. They get to know the truth of our founding. Based on Christian principles, ergo a Christian nation. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

            P.S. You say my service means nothing? If it wasn’t for we veterans, you would have nothing. Now go haunt some other thread.

          • Samdromeda

            Remember that there is no such thing as a justifiable war. Thou shalt not kill is still in play. Be sure that you are not attributing your fear to the wrong god and thereby dishonoring your country. We have overturned nations but not honorably.

          • actual socialist

            Thank you Samdromeda

          • actual socialist

            Someone like you who would so willingly force the dogmatic views on others has not earned the right to speak about honor and no i will not read genisis or any other book in the bible because and i am being completly honest here I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS if you want to make an ancient book the center-point if you want to cling to the past then fine just stop trying to drag me back in time with you because i am done trying to to explain the real modern world to a homophobic millitiristic bigoted bible thumper like you and if you feel the need to respond to this then go ahead but i am officially ignoring you for the forseeable future soo long captain caveman

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            I will pray for your enlightenment & salvation, & for your heart to be opened to receiving God!!!

          • actual socialist

            Honestly i,m flatterd by the effort but don,t waste your time it could be used on something much more benifecial

          • actual socialist

            P.S if it wern,t for we veterens you would have nothing you say? WAKE THE HELL UP WE HAVE NOTHING AND IT IS BECAUSE OF NOT INSPTE OF AUTHORITARION WARHAWKS LIKE YOU

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          It is our business, if he has to make decisions legalizing Homosexual marriage & change Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, etc…..

          • actual socialist

            Politicions champion bills and laws that would benifit them personally all the time deal with it

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “actual socialist,”

        I DISAGREE. IF NEGROES HAD KNOWN THE KENYAN IS HOMOSEXUAL IN 2008, HE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THEIR OVERWHELMING SUPPORT. HE PROBABLY WOULD STILL HAVE WON; BUT, NEGROES WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PROUD TO SAY A “black” MAN WAS PRESIDENT. UNDER THEIR BREATHS, THEY WOULD HAVE SAID A “D—SUCKER” WAS PRESIDENT! FURTHERMORE, IN THAT SUPPOSED SITUATION, NEGROES WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE WILLING TO REFER TO HIM AS BIRACIAL – INSTEAD OF, “black.”

      • Peter

        AS, if you want any credibility with anyone, you need to seriously learn how to spell, use good grammar and punctuation. Somehow I doubt that will be happening though. Happy 95%

        • NC

          Peter, my guess is that AS is texting from an I-phone. I’m all thumbs at texting (no pun intended), and of course there is no spell check. However his comments do not suggest that he has benefited from school. In one post he said he was 19, and of course at 19 you know everything.

          This is a major problem in public discourse. I don’t think they teach spelling, grammar and punctuation any more, and logic has gone the way of the dinosaur. I started becoming very concerned in the 80′s the first time I was exposed to MTV. Images flashing 2-3 per second across the screen made me dizzy. But the younger generation has learned to focus for a nano-second (but not much longer). ADD is an institution as evidenced by constant multitasking. If an idea can’t be condensed into into a 30 second soundbite, forget it, no one will listen. Unfortunately complex ideas can’t be reduced that drastically. I like your longer, well reasoned answers.

  • Rebecca

    F.Y.I. G.L.B.T., All that the C.E.O. of Chick-a-Fil said is that he believes that marriage is between one man and one woman. The concept of heterosexual marriage is not new. It has existed since prehistoric times! I can remember back in the 70′s and 80′s when gays started coming out of the “closet”–there was no demands for same sex marriages then. If being able to marry is so important to you now, why wasn’t it back then? He wasn’t advocating that the rights that you already have should be taken away. All he was doing was stating his personal belief. Tolerance use to be, “I may not agree with you but I respect you right to disagree with me.” Now it’s “If you don’t embrace my livestyle as if it were you’re own then you are intolerant.” One way tolerance is not tolerance, it’s tyranny! Besides that, Chick-a-Fil is a PRIVATE company.

    • sam1966

      Well said Rebecca! Just don’t expect the 5th columers on his site to understand. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Ms.Young

        “A great war leaves the country with three armies – an army of cripples, an army of mourners, and an army of thieves.”
        German Proverb

        “War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small ‘inside’ group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.”
        United States Marine Corps Major General Smedley D. Butler

        why: God is angry, good and angry?
        Isaiah 34:2-4
        And here’s why: God is angry, good and angry with all the nations, So blazingly angry at their arms and armies that he’s going to rid earth of them, wipe them out. The corpses, thrown in a heap, will stink like the town dump in midsummer, Their blood flowing off the mountains like creeks in spring runoff. Stars will fall out of the sky like overripe, rotting fruit in the orchard, And the sky itself will be folded up like a blanket and put away in a closet. All that army of stars, shriveled to nothing, like leaves and fruit in autumn, dropping and rotting
        ALMIGHTY GOD

        Why Do We War?
        James 4
        Get Serious
        1 -2Where do you think all these appalling wars and quarrels come from? Do you think they just happen? Think again. They come about because you want your own way, and fight for it deep inside yourselves. You lust for what you don’t have and are willing to kill to get it. You want what isn’t yours and will risk violence to get your hands on it.
        2 -3You wouldn’t think of just asking God for it, would you? And why not? Because you know you’d be asking for what you have no right to. You’re spoiled children, each wanting your own way.
        4 -6You’re cheating on God. If all you want is your own way, flirting with the world every chance you get, you end up enemies of God and his way. And do you suppose God doesn’t care? The proverb has it that “he’s a fiercely jealous lover.” And what he gives in love is far better than anything else you’ll find. It’s common knowledge that “God goes against the willful proud; God gives grace to the willing humble.”

        Are You The One To Build The Christ Kingdom?
        Are Your Hands Free Of The Bloodshed Of Man?
        Passage 1 Chronicles 22:9:

        7 -10 David said to Solomon, “I wanted in the worst way to build a sanctuary to honor my God . But God prevented me, saying, ‘You’ve killed too many people, fought too many wars. You are not the one to honor me by building a sanctuary—you’ve been responsible for too much killing, too much bloodshed. But you are going to have a son and he will be a quiet and peaceful man, and I will calm his enemies down on all sides. His very name will speak peace—that is, Solomon, which means Peace—and I’ll give peace and rest under his rule. He will be the one to build a sanctuary in my honor. He’ll be my royal adopted son and I’ll be his father; and I’ll make sure that the authority of his kingdom over Israel lasts forever.

    • Peter

      Absolutely Rebecca!
      It astounds me that homosexuals so desperately want to be able to marry each other, yet during the sexual revolution in the 1960′s which saw the beginning of the ‘legitimization’ of homosexuality, marriage was scorned by all who craved sexual liberty as being ‘old-fashioned and out of date, irrelevant to modern relationships’. “Look at what your marriages have brought you”, many said, “Abusive relationships, divorce and family breakdown, why not just live together?”
      So having lived through that and seen the subsequent degradation of society’s moral standards as a direct result, where it is unusual now to find a child whose biological parents are still married, plus the resultant rebellion and dysfunction within our young people as a direct result of family instabilities, the homosexual lobby now wants to have the right to marry each other!
      This is bizarre and not even close to logical!
      There has also been a study only a couple of months ago where homosexual couples were asked what they wanted from ‘marriage equality’.
      The results were fascinating to say the least!
      85% of respondents said they wanted to be able, withing a same-sex marriage, to be able to indulge in sexual partners outside of their ‘marriage’, while still remaining ‘married’! Only 15% wanted a monogamous relationship within a ‘marriage’ commitment!
      This in itself would totally redefine the laws of marriage, if successful, and have massive repercussions for traditional families everywhere.
      It would mean no fault in adultery ever, and no possibility of divorce on those grounds, meaning further breakdown in societal standards and the degradation of marriage everywhere.
      Homosexuals say “It doesn’t affect you, so why worry?” BS, it affects the wole of society.

      Are we also so stupid we can’t learn from history?
      Both the Roman and Greek empires fell when they took their eyes off of the task of running their empires, and turned their attention to the seeking of physical pleasure in whatever form it was offered, and ever increasing in levels of degradation and depravity.

      This is where we are headed right now.

      • NC

        Peter: Good post. glad to see some reason in the discussion.

      • sam1966

        I second that motion! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Rebecca,”

      “Gays” WERE NOT INTERESTED IN MARRIAGE DURING THE 1970s/1980s BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO SEE HOW THE NEGRO-CIVIL-RIGHTS LAWS OF 1965 WOULD “WORK-OUT” FOR NEGROES. “Gays” DESPERATELY WANT THEIR MOVEMENT TO MIMICK AND HAVE A SIMILAR OUTCOME AS THE NEGRO-CIVIL-RIGHTS MOVEMENT; “gays” ARE CONSTANTLY MAKING COMPARISONS.

      IN ADDITION, HOMOSEXUALITY WAS STILL CONSIDERED A “DISEASE” BY THE American Psychiatric Association UNTIL 1973. IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO THINK ABOUT MARRIAGE WHEN SOCIETY THOUGHT THEY WERE MENTALLY DISTURBED.

  • JON

    Dear Mr. Bob Livingston, could you please ask “samurai” / “sam1966″ to stop accusing me of being this Kang person. I have asked him on many occasions to please stop. For some reason he will just not let up!

    My first name in JON as in my required email address, not Kang

    Thank you!

    Respectfully,
    JON H

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      No KANG do…….. I couldn’t resist, sorry!!!!

  • Josie Grace

    EVERYTHING in our lives boils down to whether or not we are living in rebellion to Creator God….remember: NO ONE will ever care for YOU like JESUS… Check out Romans 1….seems to me…according to Romans 1 that –people do willing choose to believe LIES.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      The root of the word, REBELLION, “:bellion” means WAR…and RE means again….every time, we move away from God & his precepts, principles & laws, we are making war with Heaven over & over!

      • Josie Grace

        …..and also the ‘satanic’ war in our souls!

    • Ms.Young

      Read On To Romans Chapter 2 Lets Not stop At Romans 1
      1-2 Those people (IN ROMANS CHAPTER 2) are on a dark spiral downward. But if you think that leaves you on the high ground where you can point your finger at others, think again. Every time you criticize someone, you condemn yourself. It takes one to know one. Judgmental criticism of others is a well-known way of escaping detection in your own crimes and misdemeanors. But God isn’t so easily diverted. He sees right through all such smoke screens and holds you to what you’ve done.
      3-4You didn’t think, did you, that just by pointing your finger at others you would distract God from seeing all your misdoings and from coming down on you hard? Or did you think that because he’s such a nice God, he’d let you off the hook? Better think this one through from the beginning. God is kind, but he’s not soft. In kindness he takes us firmly by the hand and leads us into a radical life-change.

      5-8You’re not getting by with anything. Every refusal and avoidance of God adds fuel to the fire. The day is coming when it’s going to blaze hot and high, God’s fiery and righteous judgment. Make no mistake: In the end you get what’s coming to you—Real Life for those who work on God’s side, but to those who insist on getting their own way and take the path of least resistance, Fire!

      • Josie Grace

        All that I ask of life on earth and in heaven is that I KEEP JESUS HIGH AND LIFTED UP…I NEED THIS EVERY DAY…I DO STUMBLE AND FALL.

  • JON

    A new discovery for the cure of Homophobia:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t35GTsTBFnE

    • http://naver samurai

      OK JON, I’ll stop calling you Kang. I call you that because you act and talk just like he does. For example, the use of multiple names on a different thread by you attacking me. But if you wish me to stop, so be it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • JON

        Samurai, Thank you very much! We are both bad at letting the other one get to us. Let’s be more respectful of each other. I believe we both want the same thing in this life: A loving and healthy family, a free and prosperous country to be a part of, great friends to stand with us, and true inner spiritual happiness from our gracious creator.

        Peace to you!
        JON

      • sam1966

        Which Creator are you refering to JON? Since you called the Bible a f****** book, you cannot be a Christian. For a Christian cannot disavow the Bible, so which false god are you describing? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          “Why is it that so many people suffer from psychic imbalances? Because they have overdeveloped their feminine side, which is passive and receptive. This has laid them open indiscriminately to all influences, and after a while they don’t know where they are and feel completely at sea. So they ought to analyse themselves, study the effects on their inner life of the influences they have received, keeping only those that are beneficial and rejecting the others. Put another way, they must develop the masculine principle, which they also possess.
          Those people, in particular, who are highly sensitive or who even have mediumistic powers should learn to develop the masculine principle, since the gifts they possess are specifically feminine inasmuch as they imply receptivity. The crystal ball, which is used by certain mediums as an aid to seeing, is equivalent to water, the feminine principle in nature. The medium is receptive to spirits and to currents from the invisible world. But those spirits and currents are not all luminous, pure and beneficial, and people who have mediumistic gifts must learn not only to distinguish between the two but also to develop their will, so that they can repel the dark spirits and currents. ”

          SPIRITUAL ALCHEMY FROM:

          MASTER OMRAAM

          • Samdromeda

            There is a danger in tampering with forces that you do not control. It corrupts understanding and opens the door to demon possession. This is why witches were not allowed to operate in ancient Israel on penalty of death.

        • actual socialist

          you can,t prove your god exists anymore then a muslim can prove allah exists get over yourself

          • http://naver samurai

            “In the beginning God created heaven and the earth.”

            Genesis 1:1

            This is good enough as proof. Speaking of proof, can you prove you exist? Can you prove your real name is Eric Jones? Can you prove you are only 19 or just have a teeny bopper mentality? Can you post your long form birth certificate, though Obama bin Laden refuses to post his true original copy? We only have your word on these things,ergo care to show that you are a real person and that you exist,hmmm? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            Q: What does Obama bin Laden and God have in common?
            A: The both don’t have a birth certificate.

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            So if someone writes it down it is automatically true? interesting

          • Samdromeda

            The writer was taking dictation from God. He established the history and was recording it.

          • actual socialist

            the writer was taking directions from ther mentors and other literiture

          • sam1966

            Care to cite a source to back up that obvious BS post? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            it,s commen sence that they would be folloiwing in the footsteps of others not some disembodied voice

          • sam1966

            They were inspired by God, unlike you who is inspired by satan and his own superiorty complex. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            i don,t belive in satan i don,t hava a superiority complex and they were inspired by the writings of those before them

          • Samdromeda

            Ignorance is the bliss of oblivion. History reveals that he spoke to an actual being face to face and saw his body. Not a disembodied voice but a powerful being. Some have entertained angels unawares. These are not disembodied voices. They look just like us. Be careful because history does not back up your assertions.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            THE INSANITY CONTINUES !!!!!! (SEE BELOW)

            Bill banning parents from trying to ‘cure’ gay kids moves forward

            2 hrs ago

            A new bill that’s the first of its kind has opinion hotly divided in California, this time over whether parents can be banned from trying to “cure” their gay children. Senate Bill 1172, which would prohibit all “sexual orientation change efforts” for minors, is through the legislature and slated to land on the governor’s desk in September. Proponents argue the state law would protect civil rights, pointing to studies that show kids who undergo the reparative therapy are more likely than other kids to suffer from depression, drug abuse and suicide attempts. Opponents say the bill violates freedom of speech, as well as parents’ rights to govern their own children. [Source]

          • actual socialist

            exept to hear the voice of a diety is to go deaf as mortal ears are’nt fit to hear them

          • Samdromeda

            God never called Himself a deity. This is a human invention used to objectify God so that men could move away from and refuse to obey Him. History does not reveal anyone going deaf from listening to God. In fact listening brought clarity of mind, understanding and purpose.

          • actual socialist

            scythos don,t go deaf from hearing the voices in ther head either but those voices arn,t real either

          • Samdromeda

            Live in your own reality. Prove it and make it work. The forefathers met God face to face and He was not a voice in their head. The application of reality is based in Law that is why many are applying pressure to change law to support their own reality. It takes a lot of energy to make steele. However the processing center for you obeying your parents or caretakers when you were young is centered in your brain and is translated in your mind and enabled you to act. If you could not hear there was gestures and physical prompts. And was that voice real? How do you know? Are you sure? How did it affect your life?

          • actual socialist

            That is honestly the deepest thing i EVER heard a christen say

          • Samdromeda

            To be allergic to truth is a by product of volition. The proof is that life must come from life. From the inception life cannot be imparted from non-life. No matter how far back you go in time and eternity you will run into God. A conscious seared with the heat of denial cannot absorb truth. Each individual must prove it for themselves and it takes God to open up the mind to receive it. Otherwise you are under the influence of the god of this world
            better known as The Destroyer.

          • actual socialist

            my life came from my mothers who came from her parents that is called family

          • http://naver samurai

            This coming from a person who doesn’t know his/her biologcal mother? Ha, ha, ha, ha!
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            WHEN THE HELL HAVE I EVER SAID I DO NOT KNOW MY MOTHER WHEN?

  • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

    To Rebecca:

    Since ALPHA represents the MALE FORCE & OMEGA represents the FEMALE FORCE,
    the inner, higher meaning of “I AM ALPHA & OMEGA, the Beginning & The Ending” is that the two come together in the Eyes of God, to marry and, lift each other up on all levels, & perfectly complement each other, in HOLINESS, thereby making each soul WHOLE & completing the Divine Plan.

    Obviously, this cannot be done with 2 males or 2 females!

    • Ms.Young

      To OOOOPPert EEEEpert
      Good Luck With that Between A Male And Female
      Once Again Thank God, Christ Is Ending That System Of Things. There is neither male nor female, for all of you are one in Yeshua The Messiah.Plus No More Marriage For Anyone In The Kingdom of Christ Yeshua The Messiah! Christ Bride Is The Church Not Mary Magdalene As You Stated!!!

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        I follow the “Teachings of the Ascended Masters” & we believe there is profound truths in all the major religions, but there are also many mistruths as well, even in your beloved Bible.

        We believe, through messages from the Masters, (including Jesus), that once the soul makes the Ascension back to the Heart of God, they live as androgynous beings, but all souls have a twin flame, a Divine Complement, which was created when the soul was formed, before its first embodiment, Once both make their ascensions, they live in blissful togetherness for eternity, not so much as male & female, but as complimentary energies. Heavenly beings are one with God, and have both male & female energies in one entity.

        Jesus, himself through the Messengers, Mark & Elizabeth Prophet, of the Summit Lighthouse has told us that his twin flame is indeed ,Mary Magdalene.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        Dear Ms. Young,

        I don’t need luck when I have The Sword of Truth!!!!

    • Ms.Young

      THE AGE-OLD NEW AGE MOVEMENT
      http://www.ewtn.com/library/newage/age-old.txt
      A WARNING to Christians from the NWO and the NEW AGE- part1
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifnSMR0ngDA&feature=relmfu

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        Like all things the New Age thought can be perverted, the group I belong to does not share these views!

        • sam1966

          Good postings Ms. Young. Keep them coming. “O” you are right about one thing, about there being no divisions between religions. This will happen when the one world religion comes to us. Read the Book of Revelation for info on it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

            What you & many need to understand is religion is of man……religion is not necessarily spirituality….many times churches are more the Church of Satan than Christ.

      • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

        I belong to the Summit Lighthouse, we believe in Jesus as the Christ, but we also believe in Buddha & Brahma & Shiva & LOVE……there are perversions in all religions & groups, so you should not stereotype….The perversions were put in by the Fallen Ones, the Nephilim, the Watchers (SEE THE BOOK OF ENOCH) & they were to put in to foment discord & divide us over doctrine & ritual, etc…Why even within Christianity, there are terrible divisions & hatred, especially between Protestants & Catholics.

        We don’t even consider ourselves a religion, but a path to spirituality…most New Age groups I know , do not express the intolerance & hatred in this video, you picked the worst one probably to make your point.

        Answer this: When Jesus said, “I AM with you even unto the end of the Age”…..what was he referring to, in your opinion?

        He was talking about the Age of Pisces, not Aquarius….these Ages have been known about for centuries by those who follow the skies & the cycles…they last about 2,500 years.

        Mankind has to raise their consciousness in the coming decades, or they will be left behind as the earth itself is being purified & raised in vibrations…these types of paradigms, political solutions, divisions between religions must inevitably fade away. The thought process that “I have the only way & truth, and others will burn in the pit if they don’t follow it”, has got to be overcome! It is simply not of the Light!

  • mike

    actual socialist, why are you so hateful and combative?

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      Because probably like most homosexuals & Pro-homosexuals, he’s knows deep in his heart, it’s wrong, but not ready yet to accept that, so they lash out at those who hold a mirror up to them & speak the truth about this perverse abomination that is full of darkness!

      • actual socialist

        The only ” perverse abomanation ” is hardliners like you using a religion of peace to justify your hate of anything remotely differant then you

      • sam1966

        To say someone’s lifestyle is wrong or perverse is not hateful. Now you attacking someone for their religious beliefs or if they mention God, Jesus, the Bible, Christianity, the Constitution, SCOTUS, state supreme courts, quotes from our founding fathers and presidents, now that is hatefull.

        “Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering his vote, that he is executing one of the most solemn trusts in human society for which he is accountable to God and his country.”

        Samuel Adams
        April 02, 1781

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          I was’nt attacking religion nitwit i,m attacking his twisting of it to suit his own needs

      • sam1966

        That last comment was for AS. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • sam1966

        Like you do AS? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          And when have i EVER used religion?

    • actual socialist

      Just trying to keep up

      • sam1966

        It is just his nature to be an arse. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          Just like it,s in yours to be a smug self-rightouss zealot

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          “In the morning, as you watch the sun rise, concentrate on it and say, ‘As the sun rises over the world, let the spiritual sun of love, wisdom and truth rise in my heart, in my soul and in my spirit.’ When spoken out loud, these words are good for achieving results; just as the sun rises in nature, so the spiritual sun will rise in you. During the time of the waxing moon, at night before going to sleep, say, ‘As the moon waxes, let my heart be filled with love, my mind with light, my will with strength and my physical body with health and vigour.’ And in spring when the first leaves and the first flowers appear, say, ‘As nature blossoms, let my whole being blossom and flourish and all of humanity live in an eternal springtime!’
          Being aware of the life of nature, joining in with it and saying formulas such as these – that is true white magic. And you will become sons and daughters of God, for wherever you go you will be continually creating a new world through the creative word, the word that created the world.”

          SPIRITUAL ALCHEMY
          Master OMRAAM

      • sam1966

        Thank you for describing yourself and evry other progressive/libtard on this site. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

        • actual socialist

          I don,t need to keep up with you sammy i,m already lappng ya

  • coastx

    Gay males invented charm offence. Obviously they don’t understand peaceful enjoyment, nor do they really care about the issues they are allegedly protesting. They’re just feeling the moment like gay people do psychologically hyped on a hormonal rush they have absolutely no control over and willing to harass anyone within range of their bird-like pecking behavior.

  • coastx

    Janet Reno and Janet Napolitano are proof that the age of Aquarius is off to a very bad start.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      “You say it is not possible to help the whole world, to bring light and peace to all humans – there are so many of them! Of course, if you present the problem in that way, it is impossible to do anything. But if you know certain methods, it becomes possible.
      Try, for example, to imagine humanity as a single being. Yes, imagine the whole world as a being right there beside you, whose hand you are holding and to whom you are sending much love. At that moment, small particles from your soul go out into space in all directions, and what you are doing for that being has an effect on all men and women in the world. Gradually, they will begin to have different thoughts, different wishes – better, more generous ones. If there were hundreds, thousands of us doing this exercise, a new breath, a divine breath, would pass among all creatures, and one day they would awaken truly transformed. ”

      FROM:ASCENDED MASTER OMRAAM

  • actual socialist

    p.s.s you have not earned the right to insult ANYONES capacaity to understand ANYTHING untill you stop living in the dark ages

    • sam1966

      Like you? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      You need both love of country an fear of God to be a patriot.

      • actual socialist

        i live in the 21st centurey where we don,t relay on ancient superstition to dictate our lives and for reasons i can NOT understand i seem to have comitted myself to the impossible task of introducing a caveman { you } to the modern world

        • sam1966

          Since the modern/western woldws founded on the basis of Christianity, your post falls flat on its face. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            the world as it exists now is founded on freedom equality and human rights not a religion most people don,t even remember half the time

          • sam1966

            Which all their foundations are based on Christian beliefs, the Bible, and the teachings of Jesus. Thank you for proving me right. I knew you would see the light. Leave your atheism at home next time. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves you out. BTW, no nads to serve doesn’t help your honor out much. I’l bet your parents are proud of you, NOT!

          • actual socialist

            they are also the foundation of every other major religion on the planet so if i proved you right then i also proved the muslims right and the buddists and the hindus and the sihks get where i,m going? you chrishtens preach pride is a sin but have the gaul to sugggest you created freedom? created equality? all you’ve done is what the people who thought of the olympians did try to rationalize the world while making yourselves sound superior

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    “OOOOPPert EEEEpert,”

    SIR, YOU WIN THE “HEBREW” DISCUSSION. I RESPECT YOUR VALUES. THIS TOPIC IS IMPORTANT TO YOU.

    • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

      Though, i was born Jewish, I never did follow the religion closely & now I follow a different spiritual path,( and as I said in one of these replies, the Jewish mindset is more one of an ethnic thing not so much a religious thing, at least here in America) but even when I was young, I never liked when the Jews would talk about the Holocaust & never mention that there were 5 million Non-Jews murdered as well, as if it is only a Jewish catastrophe. There have been books written, by Jews, about the “HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY” & how the Jews milk it for financial gain & other benefits & for pity & sympathy, etc…

      I just feel some righteous indignation when people espouse that it never happened, as I would with any important event in history people deny. It’s the snuffing out of the truth I don’t care for, more than an emotional response that it was my so-called “people” that suffered.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “OOOOPPert EEEEpert,”

        SINCE YOU MENTIONED HOMOSEXUALITY IN AN EARLIER POST, I WILL TELL YOU WHY I DO NOT LIKE HEBREWS.

        AS A MALE HOMOSEXUAL, I HAVE A BIAS AGAINST HEBREW MALES – THEY ARE CIRCUMCISED. I KNOW THIS MAY SEEM “SHALLOW,” BUT, I AM ONE OF THOSE MALE HOMOSEXUALS WHO CONSIDERS SEX TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT WITHIN A RELATIONSHIP. AS AN ATHEISTIC HOMOSEXUAL, A POSSIBILITY OF CREATING A CHILD IS NON-EXISTENT FOR ME. I CAN SOLELY FOCUS ON HOMOSEX IN MY RELATIONSHIPS; THEREFORE, I HAVE THE LUXURY OF BEING “SHALLOW” IN REFERENCE TO HEBREWS

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          To each his own !!!

        • OOOOPPert EEEEpert

          Joy is like pure clear water;
          wherever it flows, wondrous blossoms grow. –Shams-i Tabrīzī

          You personify God’s message.
          You reflect the King’s face.
          There is nothing in the universe that you are not
          Everything you want, look for it within yourself–
          you are that.
          -Rumi

          Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,

          there is a field. I’ll meet you there.

          When the soul lies down in that grass,
          the world is too full to talk about.

          Ideas, language, even the phrase each other
          doesn’t make any sense.
          -Rumi

          The breeze at dawn has secrets to tell you.
          Don’t go back to sleep.

          You must ask for what you really want.
          Don’t go back to sleep.

          People are going back and forth across the doorsill
          where the two worlds touch.

          The door is round and open.
          Don’t go back to sleep.
          -Rumi

          When your chest is free of your limiting ego,
          Then you will see the ageless Beloved.
          You cannot see yourself without a mirror;
          Look at the Beloved, He is the brightest mirror.
          -Shahram Shiva

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  • Tall,darkandsneeky 2012

    I Got The Last Word!!!

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    Want To Bet?

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    I Think i will go get some chicken!!!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Gods kingdom is within you

    To Actual Socialist. Prove socialists exist…they exist in name only. I know God exists through faith that he does.The bible is Gods word.

    • Baloney Toney Mahoney

      I AM ALPHA & OMEGA!!!!

    • actual socialist

      the bible is the word of men who were GUESSING about what ther god would want secondly there are socialist partys and organazations in just about every country on earth it dosn,t need proof if any thing it is chrishtens who largly exist ” in name only ” i for one would not at all be surprised to hear most people say that they follow the communist manifesto more then the holy bible

      • sam1966

        Such drivil. Shows no intellect at all. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        • actual socialist

          You belive that a VIRGIN can get pregnent and you accuse me of showing no intellect? excusse me while i roll around on the floor laughing

          • sam1966

            All things are possible through God. What is really laughable are you nitwits who say we evolved from apes, though there is no evidence to this theory. How about the big bang theory? No evidence of that. Or how about queers are born gay? Though no gay gene exists and never has. Now believing in these things is what is laughable. Especially since Darwin refuted every thing dealing with evolution. Neeeeed to be making that popping sound. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • actual socialist

            look at your dna and then a chimps if you can,t see the simularity your blind better yet look at ther society you’ll be surprised at the simularites and you say ” all things are possible through god ” by that logic it IS POSSIBLE that mary had a affair can i prove it? no can you prove that is not what happend? same answer and the only stupidity here is fossils like you , your wife, oooopeeeert and others hoping that just because you cling to the past it will somehow stop the future

          • sam1966

            Refer to my previous posting. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This will always leave you out.

          • actual socialist

            repeating a false statement does not make it any less false

          • http://naver samurai

            “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let him have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”

            Genesis 1:26-28

            This not only proves the creation of man and woman, but is also a strong arguement against abortion and population control, which you and your ilk want. No sources? I invite you to try to cite a source, no science books or atheist sites, as they are know for being full of crap, that proves the Bible wrong. But alas! There are none on the face of this earth. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot. This will always exclude the 5th column in this country.

          • actual socialist

            he who belives everything reads and hears knows nothing if i am not to use science then how am i to make my case i am left no other option then to accept you for what you are a man who has seen combat but fears change a man who ridicules others for percieved lack of itellagence while denying intelluctualism in favor of religious fanatacism a man who boasts about his patriotism { which if i read the bible correctully is pride one of the deadly sins } yet is so willing to others i.e lgbts even the most basic liberties for not conforming to his dogmatic views yes samurai i shall accept you for the man you are a man of many many contridictions goodbye samurai our debate has FINALLY come to a close and even thougfh you will undoubtably boast about running me off you and i BOTH know the truth i found a man so enthralled by the past it blinds him to the here and now and you found somone you found someone found a man who refuses to let the past hold him back from a bright future and so in closing i leave you with this. yesterday is historey tomorrow is a mysterey but today is a gift that is why it is called the present you can gloat now

          • http://naver samurai

            For someone who calls patriotism the deadly sin of pride knows not what he is saying. Love of country is different then pride in oneself. That is the sin of pride. Intellectualism? Who says you can’t bean intellectual and believe in God and Jesus? I’m not going to boast about running you off, for the mny other posters that converged onto your position of no facts or sources and belief in nothing, you lost once you opened your own big mouth. BTW, thanks for the quote about yesterday, tomorrow, and today, but I heard that one before when the family saw Kung Fu Panda in the theaters. If this is the end of our debate, then Godspeed. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

          • actual socialist

            As per usual you miss the point it is not your claim to love this countrey that is pridefull it is your insistance on EVERYONE behaving as you do in order to be a patriot that is a sin p.s yes i quoted a movie but know what? it is one of the truest sayings i have ever heard in my life and i stand by it don’t like it? too bad so sad p.p.s i was not saying you can’t be an intellectual chrishten per say you just can’t be a intellectual zealot and that is what you are a zealot you reject fact and proof in favor of blind faith but in order to be an intellectual you have to be willing to admit you could be wrong a zealot will never do that neeeeeeeeeed to read the letter properly before responding

          • Samdromeda

            Prove all things and hold fast that which is good.. Reality can be proven. But you must choose to prove or continue to enjoy the repetition of history. The shelf life of a nation has symptoms that emerge in a social and monetary context. You have yet to meet true zealots. They tend to cause people to be imprisoned for being heretics. They also change laws to meet their brand of reality and have the state enforce it on penalty of death. Take a look around you. Torture is now enhanced interrogation techniques Remember it was The School of The Americas that taught how to operate death squads. If zealots turn you over to the state they want you to disappear so that they can make themselves rich on your property. Once labeled a heretic you will not live without someone intervening for you. The cost of being staunch will be death. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. There is no stopping a person who is deceived from setting up the enforcement of their brand of righteous. When blood touches blood and people rage in the streets ask yourselves, “Why are we doing this?” “What have we become.?” “What will it take to stop the carnage?” This is not an impotent universe. There are real laws that make things work in harmony according to the purpose for which it was made. To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. This is why we have drug resistant diseases. Life always desires to continue. The fingerprints of God.

          • actual socialist

            Read some of samurais other posts and then tell me he wouldn’t be hunting ” heratics “

  • Robert Berger

    I haven’t read the book “The Pink Swastika,” but am quite familiar with the story of homosexuals among the Nazis, and what happened. However, the book is written by a vicious homophobic bigot who has an anti -gay agenda to pursue, and this must be suspect.
    His theory proves absolutely nothing negative about gay peopel today, the vast majority of whom are absolutley harmless, and a threat to no one, the same as throughout history .
    The protest against Chick-Fil-A and other antigay organizations are not without reason . There are many right-wing religious fanatics and homophobic bigots who would like to see gay people not only denied civil rights but persecuted . People who have never harmed any one and are productive members of society .

    • Baloney Toney Mahoney

      The Mahoney Man says: It is not the homosexuals who are a threat, but the homosexual agenda that would like to see people who disagree with the state or federal govt. legalizing same-sex marriage be charged & arrested with a hate crime….already many young people have had problems expressing their spiritual beliefs in schools, that homosexuality is not part of God

  • http://www.facebook.com/frances.carney.1 Frances Carney

    I thought that the gays/lesbians were smart…but they don’t get it..Obama is only using them to get votes…remember what happen to them when Nazi Germany took over..and the style of Socialism that Obama puts forth is not far from that. Wise up..you as a group are being used…

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      THANK YOU, “Frances Carney.” DEMOCRATIC “gays” WILL HAVE A “RUDE AWAKENING!”

  • Robert Berger

    Saying that there is no such thing as homophobia is like saying that there is no such thing as anti-semitsm or racism. Homophobia does not just mean fear of gay people but hostility , prejudice hatred and evne violence agaqinst them, which is unfortunately rmapant in America. Evil organoizations such as theFRC and “Americans for truth”do nothing but spread lies, disinformation an dparanoid fear of gay people.
    These do nothing but spread vicious lies ,disinformation and paranoid fear of gay people .
    For an organization like “americans for truth about homosexuality” is like Nazis having a group called “Germans for truth about Judaism “. It does anything but tell the truth .
    “Dsapproving” of homosexuality is as ridiculous as disapproving of left-handedness .
    I happen to be both heterosexual and a south paw. Did I “choose to be one”? Of course not. Neither do gay people choose to be gay .
    The vast majority of gay people are not a threat to any one or society as a whole. You have a much greater chance of being struck by lightning than harmed by most gay people. There are a few bad eggs among them, but there are bad eggs in every groups of people. Homophobes are among the worst bad eggs in society.

    • Samdromeda

      Each person must choose where they stand and know the reality of it. The only person that you can change in this universe is yourself. You are the ground upon which future generations stand. When future generations look back they will judge whether or not the practices of their forefathers were just or unjust. There is a way that works. Learn it, do it and teach it. Your children will be watching and reading you and emulating you. There is always an example that teaches and an experience that shapes. Remember that anger is a tool of The Destroyer and cannot be compared to righteous indignation. Unless you are a total empath you cannot see through another’s eyes or feel what he or she feels. There are standards and practices that, if applied, will bring this about. But you must start with yourself and ignorance is not bliss.

    • Baloney Toney Mahoney

      The Mahoney Man says: I do not fear homosexuals, but I do fear the HOMOSEXUAL LOBBY & AGENDA SHOVING THEIR DARKNESS DOWN OUR THROATS!!!! & that lobby includes deluded straight people!!! Like Cathy, I fear the judgement upon this nation for sanctifying a perversion & thus making it legitimate!!

      • coastx

        This is a tough problem, but as a straight person, I do have a problem with a species that has it’s g spot in the ass or throat.

      • skbn113

        Romney does not support homosexuality/Obama does.

        (ANYTHING for votes.) Seriously!

  • skbn113

    1) Homosexuals are not non-violent but first let me ask that no one ever, ever use the word “gay”. They desperately switch out terminology on their terms for what is the proper name: homosexual. Always use this word, not theirs.

    Homosexuals are the worst domestic violence call a PD can get. Just ask your local police chief but do it in person so you can see his face. He must be diplomatic or the homosexuals will strike back in their numerous agressive ways….how else do you think they’ve managed to cow an entire nation?

    Male on male violence is brutal.

    2) One of the signs in this piece is “Intolerance tastes terrible. But feces is almost always involved in homosexual sex and “Golden Showers”, “glory holes”, “fisting”, ad nauseum is wonderful? I don’t think so. Homosexuality is FILTHY. Not like a man with a woman AT ALL. ( In fact, the Bible says that a man with a woman is one of the things listed as “too wonderful” to comprehend. Amen!)

    Listen………….God loves the homosexuals just as He loves everyone else. Jesus died for THEIR sins same as yours and mine. That is not being condescending, it is telling the truth.

    So they say “Intolerance TASTES terrible”???

    But they’ll put a penis up a man’s ass and then put it in their mouths and that’s OK (?)

    Oh, spare me about how it is sanitized. I know where AIDS really came from before they sanitized THAT. It was called by doctors for years & years as “The homosexual disease” or “The gay disease”.

    Homosexuals are just otherwise decent human beings driven by lust. It is a choice. How can they say God made them that way when they refuse to believe His Word- the Bible? They have even managed to twist things to where Sodom & Gomorrah were destroyed for lack of hospitality….so He smoked them for serving dinner late and with dirty knives, forks, and spoons? Didn’t wash their guests feet or something??

    What?

    Come on.

    They have to repent same as other sinners.

    But they’re also so trapped in psychotic narcissism that they don’t think they can get out!

    TheyCAME OUT, now GET OUT! Get away from this group and come sit at the feet of Jesus and He will wash you clean.

    Sorry to get so graphic at times but we have to do what it takes or millions ARE going to perish.

    • Baloney Toney Mahoney

      The Mahoney Man says: It was years ago I started using only homosexual, instead of “gay”, there’s nothing gay about it to me……Look, consenting adults can do whatever they want, though, I truly would not lie to see then holding hands or kissing in public…My main concern as a n American is the Homosexual agenda & lobby & their straight enablers shoving this crap down our throats & everyone scared to cross them…Cathy is a hero to me & everyone else who feels like him should speak out

      • coastx

        Two things: 1) gay male relationships are notorious for extreme violence, and 2) male dominant homosexuals are BDSM/pedophile motivated, which this latter issue presents in despotism in high prevalence more often than in soft dictatorships, although the latter/latter engages in covertly structured necromancy, child sacrifice, sacrifice generally and murder.

        • Baloney Toney Mahoney

          The Mahoney Man says; It is pure Satanism, a severe rebellion against Cosmic & Natural Law & the Light of God!!

          • coastx

            The light of God… That’s amazing, isn’t it? We’re all a part of this, and yet we look for this outside ourselves alienated from the only entity that truly knows who and what we are.

          • Baloney Toney Mahoney

            The Mahoney Man says; Cathy is 100% right, if the government legitimizes this darkness by sanctifying homosexual marriage the judgment will descend as it must & it already has started….We are living in a reprise of Sodom & Gomorrah….even worse because there is already the legalization of murder of innocent life in the womb!

          • coastx

            Government definitely needs to stay out of it, but neopolitics isn’t known for it’s fondness of our constitutional republic, which this is yet another path to repatriation. In fact, neos are notorious for humanitarian proxy legislation fronted via the cloak of democratic process which gets EVERYBODY [offensive comment removed]. OUCHIE! I can’t for the life of me figure there would be overwhelming support for this, the only realization issuing on such determination that there are in fact many more of these individuals afoot than once imagined. What are we dealing with here, man’s self- annihilation via disease born and non-reproductive sexual engagement? This is our humanity? Good God… How do they expect to survive if they can’t reproduce? Definitely works for neopolitics!

          • Baloney Toney Mahoney

            The Mahoney Man says: Their whole crusade is not about marriage, but legitimizing a perversion & calling it normal…since the late 1970′s when the Psychiatric Diagnostic Manual that comes out every 3-5 years swithced homosexuality from a Psych. disease to a “SOCIAL CONDITION”…everything they’ve done is in this vein, to make it seem normal…to this day, no one has ever explained to me, what the heck a SOCIAL CONDITION means!!

          • coastx

            The DSM, like the Bible, was put to use to corral an otherwise gullible herd. = )!

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “coastx,”

        YOU ARE CONFUSING THE WORDS, “DOMINANT” AND “MASULINE.” A “DOMINANT-” MALE HOMOSEXUAL CAN BE “PASSIVE” SEXUALLY. “DOMINANT” MAY ONLY MEAN HE TAKES FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY IN THE RELATIONSHIP. THE PRACTICE OF, “S/M,” HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A MALE HOMOSEXUAL’S PREFERENCE IN REFERENCE TO COITUS.

        HETEROSEXUALS STRONGLY BELIEVE IN THE MYTH OF, “Who is the man and who is the woman” IN MALE-HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS. AN EFFEMINATE MALE CAN BE THE SOLE “DOMINATOR” SEXUALLY IF THE “DOMINANT” MALE IN OTHER ASPECTS OF THE RELATIONSHIP PREFERS TO BE “PASSIVE” SEXUALLY.

        • coastx

          There’s my explanation, which makes sense. Then there’s YOUR explanation, which is convoluted, for a reason. NOW WHAT THE [expletive deleted] IS YOUR PROBLEM!

          • Baloney Toney Mahoney

            The Mahoney Man says: Mr. Horton, who I happen to like, is a homosexual who really just loves the sex part…But, he’s not full O’Baloney, but a man of truth!

          • coastx

            Not going to touch that. It’s got MRSA staph crawling all over it.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “coastx,”

        I AM NOT TRYING TO IMPLY ANYTHING IN REFERENCE TO YOUR PERSONAL LIFE – I HOPE YOU BELIEVE ME; THAT IS YOUR BUSINESS.

        BUT, SINCE I AM HOMOSEXUAL, I UNDERSTAND THE SEXUAL “POLITICS” OF COITUS.

        I WILL SAY THIS “CLEAN.”

        THE BIOLOGY OF MALE ENDOWMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AN INDIVIDUAL HOMOSEXUAL’S OUTLOOK IN TERMS OF EFFEMINANCY AND MASCULINITY. IF THE EFFEMINATE MALE IN THE RELATIONSHIP IS “LARGER,” HE WILL USUALLY BE “DOMINANT” IN REFERENCE TO COITUS.

        THEREFORE, “coastx,” YOUR PREMISE THAT “DOMINANT-” MALE HOMOSEXUALS ARE THE ONES WHO ACT “MANLY” IN EVERY ASPECT – INCLUDING, “S/M” – IS WRONG. IN THE HOMOSEXUAL COMMUNITY, BOTH EFFEMINATE- AND MASCULINE HOMOSEXUALS CAN BE “size-queens.” THIS IS THE PRIMARY REASON WHY MANY PRACTICE RECIPROCATION ["FLIP-FLOPPING"] IN REFERENCE TO COITUS – “ENDOWMENT” REIGNS SUPREME FOR MANY MALE COUPLES.

        • coastx

          I stand corrected. Heterosexual individuals perceive the phenomenon, although we don’t understand it entirely. The explanation is often times more an attempt to organized the behavior that seems threatening with the exception that research has pointed to a gland in the brain. It’s a way of stabilizing the status quo, I think. God only knows the damage we often do trying to figure something out by hacking away at it with normalcy bias. The thing is there is a huge prevalence of homosexuality in the population. What’s difficult for me to understand is there are a couple of issues with this that make it a high risk survival behavior: MRSA, reproduction and non-policy desparate impact. As a child, we perceived this and it meant nothing to us. We didn’t understand the sexual component of these relationships, so the “person” was the same as everyone else. Do you think this is why homosexual men enjoy the company of children? I don’t men that in a demeaning way, but children are often unbiased in their immature view of the world, so they would not tend to be as uptight around gay males, in my opinion. i have to tell you, I set lesbians off. I don’t do this intentionally. They naturally bristle around me. I think boundaries fade in the presence of an increased need for visibility and power, and of course this would be true for virtually everyone on the planet. We’re all human. There is a need to understand this. The thing I have a problem with as an adult is why does the government have to have a say in gay marriage except to promote gay couples for economic reasons. There’s a game here that I believe is sustaining hostility toward homosexuality politically. What’s your take on that?

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Baloney Toney Mahoney,”

        SIR, THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT. YES – FOR ME, SEX IS THE O-N-L-Y ASPECT OF IMPORTANCE IN A RELATIONSHIP. I HAVE MY OWN MONEY – ENOUGH TO LAST MY LIFETIME. HOMOSEX IS THE O-N-L-Y THING I NEED FROM ANOTHER MALE.

        PEOPLE LIKE, “coastx,” ARE DETERMINED TO BELIEVE IN MYTHS REGARDING FEMININITY AND MASCULINITY IN MALE [AND, FEMALE] HOMOSEXUALS.

        “coastx” DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE/SHE IS TALKING ABOUT. [By the way,"coastx," I used "HE/SHE" not to offend you - but, because you have a gender-neutral moniker].

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “coastx,”

        I AM AN “OPEN” HOMOSEXUAL. EVERYONE IN MY LIFE WHO MATTERS KNOWS MY ORIENTATION. BECAUSE I ASSOCIATE WITH OLDER MALES, I AM RARELY IN THE COMPANY OF CHILDREN. CHILDREN MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE.

        PARENTS HAVE A RIGHT TO SHIELD THEIR CHILDREN FROM HOMOSEXUALS. WHEN I AM AROUND PARENTS WITH SMALL CHILDREN, I TEND TO “DISTANCE MYSELF” FROM THAT ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE I DO NOT WANT ANY NEGATIVE SPECULATION ABOUT MY PROXIMITY TO THOSE CHILDREN. WHEN MY NEPHEWS WERE SMALL, I STAYED AWAY – NOT, BECAUSE OF MY SIBLINGS [I HAD THEIR SUPPORT]; BUT, BECAUSE OF MY IN-LAWS. MY IN-LAWS HAVE A RIGHT TO BELIEVE HOMOSEXUALITY IS WRONG; AND, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO PASS THOSE BELIEFS TO THEIR CHILDREN. ALTHOUGH I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH MY IN-LAWS, I WANTED TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THEM. NOW, MY NEPHEWS ARE ADULTS. I HAVE NOT SEEN THEM LATELY BECAUSE WE “MOVE IN DIFFERENT CIRCLES.”

        • Baloney Toney Mahoney

          The Mahoney Man says: You are certainly a rare one amongst this sect…I give you kudos for your honesty & respect of others !!!

          Do you ever feel like you might want to change to straight? In quiet moments does your soul ache in any way that would prompt you to say to yourself, “Maybe this is not the right way to live.?”

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Baloney Toney Mahoney,”

        SIR, I DO NOT LIKE FEMALES. PERIOD – NUDE OR CLOTHED. I ONLY LIKE HAIRY MALES. SOME CAUCASIAN MALES HAVE HAIRY BACKS AND HAIRY CHESTS – THAT IS MY TASTE.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    I JUST SAW THE VIDEO OF THE MALE CUSTOMER AT Chick-fil-A’s “DRIVE-THRU” WINDOW. THIS VIDEO AND THE LIBERAL-MALE DRIVER ARE SILLY. THAT FEMALE EMPLOYEE IS ONLY TRYING TO MAKE A PAYCHECK – SHE IS NOT, Dan Cathey’s DEFENDER.

    LIBERALS ARE STUPID.

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    “coastx,”

    I OPPOSE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.

    I HAVE TO TALK TO YOU AS A NEGRO. CAUCASIANS AND NEGROES HAVE A DIFFERENT OUTLOOK IN REFERENCE TO THE WAY IN WHICH PARENTS RELATE TO THEIR ADULT CHILDREN.

    IN THE NEGRO COMMUNITY, WHEN A CHILD BECOMES EIGHTEEN PARENTS “STEP-BACK” AND ALLOW THESE YOUNG ADULTS TO DO “THEIR THING” ["Grown" means "grown" in the Negro community]. BECAUSE NEGROES OPPOSE HOMOSEXUALITY, IN GENERAL, PARENTS DO NOT “BUTT-IN” THEIR ADULT-HOMOSEXUAL CHILDREN’S BUSINESS. THEREFORE, THIS “THING” ABOUT A PARTNER NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE HER/HIS PARTNER IN THE HOSPITAL IS A NON-ISSUE.

    ON THE OTHER HAND, IN THE CAUCASIAN COMMUNITY IT SEEMS PARENTS ARE HIGHLY INVOLVED IN THE LIVES OF THEIR ADULT CHILDREN. CAUCASIAN HOMOSEXUALS OFTEN TALK ABOUT THIS “HOSPITAL THING.” AS A NEGRO, I BELIEVE THIS IS BECAUSE ADULT-CAUCASIAN CHILDREN ARE MORE LIKELY TO ACQUIRE AN INHERITANCE FROM THEIR PARENTS. HENCE, THEY DO NOT WANT TO “PISS-OFF” DAD AND MOM BY FLAUNTING THEIR HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONSHIP. FOR EXAMPLE, ADULT-CAUCASIAN HOMOSEXUALS OFTEN TALK ABOUT WHAT TO DO IN REFERENCE TO THANKSGIVING AND YULETIDE ["Do I go to my parents' for dinner by myself, or, do I bring my partner?]. I BELIEVE HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD SPEND ALL HOLIDAYS WITH THEIR PARTNERS; HOLIDAYS ARE ABOUT SPENDING TIME WITH THE PERSON WHO SHARES YOUR LIFE. VISIT FAMILY ON THE DAY BEFORE OR AFTER THE HOLIDAY – WHETHER OR NOT TO BRING YOUR PARTNER DEPENDS ON THE DYNAMICS OF FAMILY; IN-LAWS HAVE RIGHTS, TOO.

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