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Paul Says GOP May Not Be “Brave Enough” To Slash Federal Spending

February 7, 2011 by  

Freshman Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has claimed that the GOP's most recent budget proposal is insufficient, and he has questioned whether his party colleagues are "brave enough" to make deeper cuts.

During an interview with ABC News, Paul said that Representative Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) plan — which would cut non-security spending by $58 billion by the end of the fiscal year — is "not going to touch the problem." Paul has proposed his own budget that would reduce spending by $500 billion this year and impose deep cuts across the board.

Paul said that it is more important to him to stay true to his Tea Party principles than follow the GOP leaders. His plan would cut the Department of Education budget by 83 percent and eliminate all foreign aid, and he said those proposals are just scratching the surface for future cuts.

"I go to a Tea Party [gathering] and you know what they say to me? It's not enough. It's not enough. Where's the other trillion you need?" Paul told the media outlet.

According to CNN, Democrats have also criticized Ryan's budget, but for different reasons. They accused House Republicans of not following through on their promises, referring to the party's original pledge to cut $100 billion from the budget. GOP staffers argued that Ryan's proposal does meet their original target because it represents the pro-rated amount for scaling back spending rates to 2008 levels for the remaining seven months of the fiscal year. 

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  • Rolland

    They need to cut, cut, cut. Or they will be replaced, replaced, replaced!

    • http://naver samurai

      100% agree! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Karolyn

    Paul just better forget foreign aid. It will never be cut out. They might be able to cut some, but it is too important to go altogether.

    • Harold Olsen

      I don’t trust Rand Paul. I agree that we need to cut spending and I hope the Republicans do not raise the debt ceiling, though I won’t hold my breath because I think they will raise it because they are not serious about cutting spending. Neither is Rand Paul. He ran his campaign speaking out against earmarks. However, as soon as he got elected and weeks before he took office, he said that some earmarks are okay and he’ll support them. Total hypocrisy. He is one of the many so-called conservative Republicans named as possible 2012 presidential candidates. He won’t get my vote.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Mr. Olsen:

        I had not heard that. It is indeed very disconserting.

        What the hell is it going to take to get these politicians on the straight and narrow?!

        • Richard Pawley

          When they see the 275% inflation that their squandering of all they can borrow comes about and there are riots in the streets of major cities they might wake up. In the meantime prepare to get rid of those who will not stop the destruction of the dollar. Don’t let them be like mini-Mubaraks’s who will leave Egypt with 70 BILLION DOLLARS stashed away (even his children are billionaires). The next election is just 21 months away. The debt is so big that it never be paid with anything but inflation. Saginaw, Michigan’s major employer is now China, and I could go on but I don’t have the time. It’s why I wrote my last book. Get ready! It’s going to be interesting for the prepared and terrifying for those who are not but everyone will be affected, and not just here. Dum Spiro Spero!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Harold & Henry,
        You guys need to check out Duncan Hunter!!

    • Ellen

      I agree. Some foreign aid is essential. We need allies around the globe. A review of foreign aid is needed. For example, we get much of our oil from Venezuela, so the foreign aid is probably necessary. Maybe we should cut Mexico’s aid – at least until they stop the flow of their citizens to the US and they get their drug cartels under control. This is not an ‘all or nothing’ topic.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        If they are selling oil, then why do they need aid???

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


      Nothing is more important than our country. If we do not get the spending under control immediately our county will not longer exist as it does today. Then who will doing the foreighn aid?

      Charity begins at home.

      Rand also needs to add the Dept. of Energy, the Dept. of Homeland “Security” and virtually every cabinet dept. other than Defense as that is the only one that is constitutional.

  • Charles

    You are right.We are watching.

  • Charles

    If they don`t cut every thing at least 20%, there won`t be any money
    for anybody. I know foreign aid is important, but saving this country
    is at the top of the list. We no longer can afford to be the big shot
    to the rest of the world. If we can get our house in order,them we
    can do more for others. A bankrupt America can help no one.

  • Karl

    Cut out the fed altogether, cut the military, eliminate obamacare.
    Follow the Constitution.

    • http://naver samurai

      Sorry, but we can’t cut the military more than it is now. Cut it more and if you think we’re spread thin now, just wait till it gets cut more. The other points I agree on. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Karolyn

        If we brought all the soldiers home, the military budget would be cut. We wouldn’t be paying combat pay and other extra money the soldiers get for being overseas. Plus, if we closed some of the bases and sold them to the countries we’re in, we could make some money.

        • Jeep

          Good plan. Bring the troops home and let the Taliban have Afghanistan. Bring ‘em home from Korea and let Kim take over. Let’s bring ‘em home from South America and let the cartels and the communists have free range. Oh yeah, and let radical muslims get a free shot at Eqypt and Turkey. Yep, good plan. After all, we don’t need to worry, we can always fight our enemies on main street.

          • eddie47d

            You don’t want foreign troops on our soil so why would you want our troops on Their soil. Any foreign occupation makes for bad company and some resentment.

          • Lastmanstanding

            If we want to keep these bases, let’s run them like a business. Donald Trump has the right idea…After all, we are protecting them. Let these countries pay us for it. They get protection, we cover our costs and make a PROFIT!!! Think how quickly we could pay off our debt and put our country in the black. They have a choice, they can pay for protection, or we bring our men and women home to protect our country. We make or save money, it’s a simple win/win deal for the US taxpayer! If we bring our troops home, we simply run and ad on the worldwide web that says: “The USA WANTS TO BE LEFT ALONE. Mind your own business,and you have nothing to worry about. If you do not comply, there is no place on this earth where we can’t reach you from land, sea, or air.”

            I’d certainly comply.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


            We can arm the citizens of those contries a lot cheaper than having our military over there. That way they can fight their own battles and have “some skin in the game” as Der Fuhrer puts it.

            Our forefathers faught against the Brits with outside help from France and they won.

            We cannot afford to be the world’s policeman any longer.

            We wn’t have to fight them on Main Street. We are already abdicating Main Street to the muslims. Just look around. Think NYC and MN, just for starters.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


            Moma mia! I thina you gotta gooda idea. We makea dem an offer they canna refusea!

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


          Well said. I have been harping aoubt those bases overseas for at least 30 years. They are a waste of our money.

          I am sick and tired of paying to be the world’s policeman.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            I think if you check, Japan, at least pays about 101 million dollars a year to keep the base on Okinawa! The others around the world, I don’t know.

        • http://naver samurai

          The repaying of the bailouts Obama bin Laden gave out and the defunding or overturning of Obama bin Laden Care would save us a lot more money then that would. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        The military, or “the common defense” is the only thing they are doing that is required by the constitution.


      The Department of Education, Department of Energy, and a few other BIG GOVERNMENT debacles have cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars, with virtually no improvement in the areas they were intended to improve, just like the Stimulus. They need to go!

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


      If we followed the constitution ObamaCare would not be a problem as Obama itself would be gone, in prison, and so would everything he has doen to the country legislatively.

  • bob wire

    Yea,~ well we need to start buying cheaper friends then!

    It’s like Clinton and all his working in Port of Prince, what in the heck does he think he is doing or will ever achieve?

    You can gold plate a turd and it’s still a turd.

    Their needs can never be met by anyone.

    • Karolyn

      Bob – helping in Haiti is strictly to try and get them basic needs, like sanitation and roofs over their heads.

      • JUKEBOX

        Karolyn, how in the world do you eliminate all the sticky fingers the money has to filter its way through. Probably, less than 20% of the money gets used for what it’s intended for, just like our own government bureaucracies.

      • bob wire

        Karolyn, I know in the beginning that’s what it was about, but it’s advanced into the planning stage at this point.

        Please don’t get me wrong, I am sympathetic to humanitarian needs. But there must be a cut off point. ~

        From the very beginning of time nature works to thin the herd. This thinning process is an important to achieve balance.

        Mankind is greatly limited with attempts to offset this “thinning” while we do try so hard.

        From New Orleans to early Pompeii to the Black Plague that raged Europe, mankind has always been under attack.

        It’s not for American’s to hock the family jewels and address World “thinning” events every time they happen to occur.

        Dig them out of the rubble, treat the injured and fill their bellies for 6 months and allow them disperse back into the forest from where the came.

        It’s not our job to hold them in the 21 Century.

        My family was wiped out in Texas, Calmatta Valley in 34, during a hell storm that beat up and melted their Adobe house as the children hid under the bed and almost drowned. It’s not like I don’t know of such suffering, where simply, clean dry cloths and a bowl of warm soup can renew a persons dignity and offer the strength to pick up and move on.

        We, ~ too ofter act as gods with over interfering with other peoples destiny.

        Personal Character is not a given thing but an acquired thing.

        We are not gods but men of God, we must live with realities and limits as they too must do.

        Hey! somebody has got to be the hard ass, allow me.

        • Lastmanstanding

          Bob, I’ll be happy to back you up.

        • Gerrold in CA

          Bob wire – well written and so true !!!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          bob wire,
          we have found common ground!!!!

          • Average Joe

            I can’t agree more! Good show Bob and well spoken!

        • JC

          I’d like to be the first to second that…but I’ll settle for fourth. :)

        • JeffH

          bob, well said and I agree.

        • http://naver samurai

          I can’t believe it! I actually agree with you on this one Bob! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Asa Simmons

          I’d like to reply to Bob. This is jsut my opion, but I see two things
          that usually put other people in poverty. 1st is uasually the religion
          they practice. One of the things that the Christian religion teaches is personnal responsiblity. 2nd is the type of government they have. A tyranical gov. will lead people into misery. I realize that this is a generalization, but it is what I have seen over the years.
          My point being that no amount of foreign aid will help the situation.
          Plus, these countries need to take action for them selves. We can no long just through money around

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


        The only reason the reprobate dick-for-brains is is in Haiti is for self-engrandisement and to look for a new score on some little girl.

        Ever see him running a shovel in the mud? Digging a well? Shingling a roof? Running a hammer? Anything that involves getting dirty, that is , physically dirty?

        • Karolyn

          Just because somebody doesn’t get dirty doesn’t make him less than somebody who does. He’s not getting anything out of what he’s doing in Haiti. Why do you see only the bad in people?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            you honestly think this won’t inhance his speaking fees??? and as far as getting dirty, even Carter did here in the states!! What makes Clintoon so special???

          • JUKEBOX

            I guess when you go to Harvard or Oxford or any of the elite schools, your hands are too soft and dainty to do any physical work like Carter, Reagan, Bush, etc. Obama & Clinton could not survive a week in a real work situation, building tires, cars, houses, etc.

          • Karolyn

            Who effin cares who’s dirty? Carter was a farmer; of course he got dirty. Do you think Bush was better just because he owned a ranch and was a “donwhome” kinda guy? Is it not possible that there are famous people who believe in what they are doing for others? Why do you have to give everybody ulterior motives? That’s terrible way to live – distrusting everybody.

          • JUKEBOX

            I guess you believe that all of the WEALTHY Progressives got that way by being sweet, loving, caring pacifists, and donating 95% of their wealth to redistribution. Yes I am a cynical old fart, and damned proud of it. Just chill and have another off that Obama bong.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Some people have only bad to see.

            I do not listen to what he says. I watch what he does.

            I cannot stand that idiot Carter as I had to enure his policies and suffer, and watch, their consequences, but I did admire him for the Habitat for Humanity. He got out ther and cut boards and bent nails. He go dirty and worked up a sweat. From that standpoint Carter had actions along with words.

            Short of vaccuuming the astro turf in the bed of his El Camino to get ready for his next victim I doubt he ever got physically dirty in his life. Well, he might have dripped ketchup from his Big Mac onto his shirt.

          • Karolyn

            Joe – Are you saying there are no wealthy conservatives?

          • JeffH

            Old Henry : “I do not listen to what he says. I watch what he does.”

            I listen and then I watch what he does…all of them.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            pray tell, where did I say that??? YOU said he wasn’t getting anything from what he’s doing. I just took aim at that!!! Pay attention!!

  • bob wire

    I wish people would accept that some battles are just not winnable and what going on in your neighbors back yard is not as important as what’s going on in your own.

  • Kim

    No more foreign aid. Not until we get our own house in order. Let the bleeding hearts in China step up to the plate and be the heroes…oh, yeah, there probably are no bleeding hearts in China… I’m especially disgusted with giving foreign aid to the Islamic countries, who in turn, hate our guts. The world has gone completely mad…

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


      There are bleeding hearts in Communist China.

      They have a knife or bullet in them.

  • Deep River Rat

    In the words of Palin “Cut,Baby,Cut”.Stop all of the Illeagals free handouts;and stop the BS that all children should have free education.Eliminate all Socialist programs, and replace our Regressive Income Taxes with the FairTax.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    Absolutely Accurate way of putting it! “BRAVE ENOUGH” or in my wording do they have the COURAGE to do whats right. I say NO, and everyone who things that anyone elected through either of the 2 Zombie parties will follow the Constitution, is sadly mistaken and LOST.

    The Key issue is WHY DO THEY LACK the COURAGE? Simple..they dont want to DIE.

    • Harold Olsen

      Or, to put it more simply: Democrat or Republican. Two sides of the same coin. They are interchangeable.

      The Republicans SAY they want to cut spending but I don’t believe they do. If they vote to raise the debt ceiling, that will be my proof.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Bitter Libertarian:

      They need to follow Ben Franklin’s addage: “We must all hang together, or we shall certainly all hang separately”.

      We have no statesmen.

      • eddie47d

        Then you’d better start hanging steadfast with Obama and stop demonizing him or we will shirley parrish. We see what goes on in foreign countries and they see how we treat our leaders.We have played kick ball with Bush and Obama so I’m surprised any nation respects us or even wants to do business with us.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


          Hellooooo…. Obama is the one who is planning on DOING the hanging.

          The wonderful anti-America media were the ones who “played kickball” with Bush, and eventually the brain-dead American electorate began to believe them. I read the other day: The military is at war. Americans are at the mall. Only those with loved ones are directly affected and few of them were jumping up and down other than that idiot Sheehan. The media played her like a fiddle, and a fool. Where is she now that Obama is running the war(s)?

          I am no huge fan of Bush, or his dad, but he did believe in our country and did what he thought was right at the time.

          I remember how Reagan was excoriated non-stop in the press and by the democraps. He paid no attention and knew history would be the judge. It was. Now the media falls all over itself praising Reagan. They even try to draw comparisons with Reagan to Obama. I can see the Gipper just shaking his hes head and smiling.

          • JeffH

            “The superior man is distressed by the limitations of his ability; he is not distressed by the fact that men do not recognize the ability that he has.” – Confucius

  • http://google SUNBUM


    THINGS I WILL VOTE FOR !! – A stupid uneducated 76 yr old high school dropout. I don’t understand – i should be a good, brain washed demorat; what happened ??

    Remember – If we don’t straighten ourselves out now, we will not be in a position to help the world, in the future.

    Stop all foreign aid.
    Bring ( ALL ) of our troops home. Put them on ( our ) borders!! ( NO FENCE – just GUNS )

    Round up all illegals – send them home.

    Impose large fines on people employing illegals.

    Our immigration laws are just and fair to all. The only thing I can see, that is not fair, Allowing children, born to people that are not u s citizens to stay. this is not right!

    Stop being a police force for the world.

    Stop the trade deficit – with tariffs -. We can’t employ the world & pay our people to sit on their ass
    savings : JOBS & TRILLIONS

    Trade tariffs will bring manufacturing back to the U S. People here are making millions importing from other countries and Americans remain unemployed. When I was a kid, CLOTHES – SHOES – WASHING MACHINES – CARS – STEEL – SHIPS etc. made in the U S. Now we make hamburgers & computers – soon no computers!!

    Stop all crooked unions

    Start profit sharing, in the work force. This will kill them. It can be done.

    Unemployment – paid out based on what YOU pay in.
    If YOURS runs out, We will find you a job. Shoveling S–t if necessary. You’ll NOT be paid to sit on your ass. Too degrading for you ? DON’T DO IT. Honest people ( will find a job real quick.) Lazy ones will go hungry, or steal, & end up in jail shoveling it for nothing. ( NO T V, WEIGHTS, or BASKETBALL )
    I know Libs – I’m just a cruel – no heart Conservative. (wonder why most libs are rich??)

    SORRY I GOT OFF MY STUFF. Libs just do that to me!! There are, many – many, other stupid things these crooked politicians have done to us. – Lets see now!!


    We should end the high salaries and benefits for politicians and other government employees. Cut the salaries of congressmen and senators to $100,000 per yr. NO benefits or retirement. also cut way back on their expense accounts – Not enough ?? – keep the millions you spend to get elected in the first place!! I’ll take the job. Gov. employees salaries, and benefits, should be based on industry salaries & benefits. and no more

    The next, will upset many people, however; Because of what the politicians of the last 70 years have done I see no way out,

    Social Security must be changed.
    First thing – retirement age raised to 70 (ouch) This means the unhappy kids of the 60′s & 70′s will need to work 5 extra years. Oh’ well ! Had it not been for their fathers in W W 2, they would have nothing to bitch about. They would not be here, Germany and Japan would. Damn dumb, old people!!

    Next (This, also, not fair), however; I think necessary. We have established a minimum cost of living amount, for THIS country, called starvation wage. I call it Soc. Sec. Those U S citizens, without this yearly amount, should receive funds necessary to equal this amount. If you have funds to equal this amount, god has blessed you, You receive nothing from the government. You already got yours from god: Be happy!! This means – All retired persons, file taxes every year, listing income, net worth, and expenses.
    I KNOW – NOT FAIR – YOU COME UP WITH SOMETHING! I’m just a dumb drop out – remember!! Not a very, very- smart politician.


    IF YOU AGREE SENT IT ON – TO AS MANY LIBS AS POSSIBLE.,HEE HEE – OH’ TO YOUR FRIENDS TOO. I have more stuff, but; thats enough for now : We don’t want those wonderful lib brains to explode! They need to find a way they can use this stuff and still take over our country!


    • eddie47d

      It is easy to criticize the salaries of those in Congress yet they don’t make any thing near what private company executives make. Sure there are a few millionares in Washington making our laws but how do you keep good people there without paying a reasonable salary. The issue should be focused on kick backs and under the table bribes. It’s the hidden money that is rotting these folks.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


        Their obscene benefits need to be gone! NO pension. They go on Social Security. Congress is supposed to be a citizen legislature, not a carreer.

        No free health care. They want ObamaCare so bad for us? Put them on ObamaCare, or Medicare like the rest of us.

        They vote themselves PAY RAISES & PERKS! What’s wrong with this picture?

    • Lastmanstanding


      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Hey Lastman:

        Der Fuhrer is mentally ill, as are all Narcissists. For example think Hitler and Stalin.

        • Lastmanstanding

          O.H. cah pisch!!! (I understand!)

    • spitfire

      You have gone mad! You are not even coherent. I think you should be locked in a RUBBER ROOM, so you do not hurt yourself, or otheres.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


        Sunbum makes absolute sense. Me thinks you are one of those young skulls full of mush who has been co-opted by the statest educational system.

        Get a job. Nay! Get three jobs so you can help pay for all the “stuff” you think Sunbum is crazy for complaining about.

        Work kid! Work!

      • http://naver sook young

        What a childish rant. Can you tell me which one of the items that Sunbim listed you disagree with? There’s nothing wrong with cutting programs that are against the Constitution. I also agree with Old Henry, if you need some money go out and work for it. The people that made this country great believed in hard work and not just getting money from the government. I think you need to start believing that way and not the way of the liberals destroying our nation. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

    • http://?? Joe H.

      I agree with all of it except the retirement age. I see you don’t have to sacrifice anything on that!! Looking in the paper today alone I see 14 people that died at ages ranging from 65 to 70 years of age. Raise the age to 70 and these people never collect a cent!! These people, like me have contributed to this scheme for 40 – 45 years and collect NOTHING!!! It is not right!! Oh, and before you gripe about it, Yes I did serve this country as well!!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


        If you have contributed to FDR’s Ponzi Scheme, why can’t you collect? If you have been “donating” to it for 40 to 45 years you certainly are at, or near, the eligible age.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Old Henry,
          I am 60 years old! Raise the age to seventy and I don’t collect for ANOTHER ten years. By that time they’ll raise it to 75, then what?? SUNBUM is collecting now so it is easy for him to mess with others money, as I said. HE LOSES NOTHING! I started working at 15 years old and I have never collected a cent of welfare nor more than four weeks of unemployment. Never seen food stamps either! I’m damn proud of that!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            I gave you the respect of an answer now the least you could do is return the respect.

  • spitfire

    Get ready, they will cut programs the American people need, and not foreign aid or wars, or more importantly their own wages,healthcare, and cushy retirement. Instead they will cut education,state funding for road repair, and other important infrasture needs. This has happened many times before when we cry “cut your spending”, balance the budget.

    Your November vote really did nothing. Are you ready to get suckered again and vote??? When they are shot, run out of town on a rail, or tarred and feathered, then their replacements are installed, you will see change. Well, you will at least be able to watch our country flounder and fail, as communism consumes us. Then you will be happy, because everything will be decided for you.


      Obama told O’Reilly yesterday that the courts were wrong to rule against Obamacare. He has no problem telling Mubarak that he needs to listen to the “Will of the people”, yet he ignores the will of the people when it comes to his Monster Obamacare.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        OReilly is a 100% schill.

        • JUKEBOX

          Then Obama must fall in the shill category, for I was quoting him, not O’Reilly. Obama furnished the duplicitous answers.

        • JeffH

          I don’t see it…enlighten me.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        I thought O Reilley was going to get down an polish Der Fuhrer’s shoes with his tie.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          you mean he didn’t????

          • JUKEBOX

            Watch the rest of the interview tonight to find out, if you’re not drooling over Tingly Leg Matthews.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


            Don’t know. I cannot afford to replace my TV, so I went to the Histwa Channel….

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            The only thing that kept me from putting my foot through my one set was that the Packers were ahead!!! STEELERS LOST!!!!!!!! Being from Cleveland area, I didn’t care who won as long as it wasn’t the STEELERS!!!!

        • JeffH

          Naw! Not even close.

  • tim

    The foreign aid needs to go. Take care of our own. Why are we sending any money to these oil states????? It’s time to start drilling in our own backyard. We don’t need to buy oil thru our taxes and at the pump too!!!!!!!!!!

  • Norm

    When House Republican leaders unveiled their Pledge to America in September, it included a pretty striking promise to voters — if elected, the GOP majority would “roll back government spending” by “at least $100 billion in the first year alone.”
    Many people knowledgeable about the federal budget said House Republicans could not keep their campaign promise to cut $100 billion from domestic spending in a single year. Now it appears that Republicans agree.
    Now aides say that the $100 billion figure was hypothetical, and that the objective is to get annual spending for programs other than those for the military, veterans and domestic security back to the levels of 2008, before Democrats approved stimulus spending to end the recession.
    Oh, I see. Republican pledges are “hypothetical” promises. The Pledge to America must have included asterisks and disclaimers in font so small, the country missed the caveats.


      I missed all of Barry’s caveats: “IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT”.

    • http://naver sook young

      Sorry Norm, but the year isn’t over yet. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

  • American Patriot

    American’s need to put the pressure on their elected officials to repeal the “PATRIOT” act. This is an all out attack on the American people and their way of life. It will turn our Nation, the U.S.A. into a POLICE STATE. Stand up AMERICA! Stand up against the TYRANT’S in Washington D.C. We only have a week or two to stop it from getting passed. The GOP is in bed with the DEM’S and all for it, without even reading the bill. This is so unconstitutional. This is an all out “ATTACK” on our liberty’s and freedoms. We must all stand up against the TYRANT’S. The TEA PARTY PEOPLE must be notified of this as well. get the word out! Please!

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


      You are 100% correct.

      Americans! Call your House Representative, NOW!
      202-224-3121 – Capital Switchboard
      Ask for you congressperson’s office and tell them to KILL the RENEWAL of the Partiot Act. That legislation if pure facsism.

      As the God Father’s pizza guy used to say: “DO IT’!!!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        already did!!

  • Bitter Libertarian

    **SIDE NOTE**

    Washington sources tell us that a Patriot Act renewal bill is scheduled for a vote in the House TOMORROW, Tuesday February 8.

    They will attempt to pass the bill, H.R.514, under “suspension of the rules,” which requires a two-thirds vote.

    Defeating this will only require 1/3 of Congress. That will buy us time, and time is what we need to educate Congress that the Patriot Act is unnecessary and dangerous


    Quote of the Day: “If Big Brother (of Orwell’s 1984) comes to America, he will not be a fearsome, foreboding figure with a heart-chilling, omnipresent glare as in 1984. He will come with a smile on his face, a quip on his lips, a wave to the crowd, and a press that (a) dutifully reports the suppressive measures he is taking to save the nation from internal chaos and foreign threat; and (b) gingerly questions whether he will be able to succeed.” — Michael Parenti, Source: “Inventing Reality” (1986)

  • LES

    The politicians will NOT make real cuts to spending no matter what they promise. The people will never tolerate it and vote anyone out of office that tries it.

    It is going to take some major crisis beyond which the citizens or politicians can control.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


      And that is when Obama creates his total police state.

  • dr reality check

    Paul has some excellent points; the Republican Party didn’t do anything different than the Democrats for the 8 years of the Bush administration, and Obama has continued all of the Bush foreign and domestic policies. So far, we’re not seeing anything different in Congress except posturing. It is high time for a fresh approach. The Republicans plan was to co-op the Tea Party; if we don’t see action soon, the opportunity to change course will pass.

  • s c

    Part of the problem is in permanently removing the influence of the in-house progressive mentality that continues to corrupt the ‘Republican’ party. The hardcore, airhead ‘Republicans’ are in love with compromise. This fact alone makes them perpetual losers.
    You do NOT compromise with people who hate freedom. To live without standards is akin to admitting that freedom isn’t worth having because it takes too much effort. Flush the toilet. Clean house. Fumigate the property.
    Force the fence-sitters and the two-legged vermin out of the ‘Republican’ party. Rand’s comments shouldn’t come as any surprise, people. He’s simply reminding us that the battle has just started, and is far from over. Know your enemy, and get rid of the SOB.

    • Karolyn

      There has to be compromise. If it’s all one way, isn’t that totalitarianism or communism? It certainly isn’t freedom. You talk abuot progressives forcing their agenda on people. Well, you want to force a conservative agenda on everybody.

      • Gerrold in CA

        Compromise – with who? Not one American wants wasted tax dollars. Not one American wants higher taxes. Not one American wants trillions of dollars in debt for their children to inherit.

        When liberal politicians feel the heat from a rising tide of public discontent, they talk compromise.

        • Karolyn

          Not every American wants the same cuts to the same things.

          • JUKEBOX

            I guess you want to double the education budget, so our kids will only be half as smart, and too dumb to know how to handle a real crisis.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


          I began to take issue with your “Not one American wants” as most of that is exactly what Obama wants.

          And then I remembered you stated Not one AMERICAN”. Maybe you are correct after all….

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Karolyn, Karolyn, Karolyn:

        Did you not read about the November elections?

        The American people spoke with a scream. Cut. The. Budget!

        That election was not simply a massive shift in congress. It went all the way thru the system. Right down to dog catcher! Nation-wide Republicans picked up something like 769 legislative seats and many governorships.

        If the Republicans do not deliver, and I mean NOW, there will be an even larger revolution in 2012. This party may end up being an also-ran third party behind the Tea Party and then the democraps.

        WE. Are. Fed. Up! However, when you retain the same tired “leadership” I guess we cannot expect too much. After all there are only about 60 Tea Party Republicans in the House.

        Boehner needs to grow a pair and come to grips with the fact the the House CONTROLS ALL SPENDING! It begins, and ends there.

  • eddie47d

    Republicans make tough choices?!They couldn’t even tackle credit card fraud or financial reform.They want business as usual more than the Democrats.

  • chuckb

    the best idea is: cut tax, cut some foreign aid, cut federal employment,
    cut the healthcare bill, retake the union stock in gm and resale to private investors, close the fed education dept.close down the epa, open up drilling for private investors and last of all send barry and michele back to kenya, to stay!

  • Delores Smith

    Republicans have an opportunity to straighten out our financial mess. You are a freshman Senator, and instead of criticizing your party, find solutions, and work with your party. Stop pushing Rand Paul. Let me give you a project. Find out if Obama met with Muslim Brotherhood a few weeks ago. Did he send invitations to leaders of Muslim Brotherhood to his Cairo speech. Did the Muslim Brotherood stir up the Egypt protests and others with the encouragement of Obama. Why?
    Delores Smith

    • JeffH

      Ayers/Dohrn(Weather Underground) = Code Pink support = Hamas + Muslim Brotherhood = “Days of Rage” (hmmm, same name as the Weather Underground organised 1969 “Days of Rage” riots in Chicago)

  • chuckb

    delores s

    barry is sympathetic to the muslim brotherhood and yes he reportedly did invite the brotherhood to the cairo speech. did you hear the interview before the super bowl game, this guy supports the bro-hood and he refused to answer when oreilly asked him if he would support them if they took over the country of egypt, he beat around the bush and didn’t answer, he did admit they were involved with the egyptian protesters you have to watch and listen to every word this guy says, he is very evasive and really isn’t capable of answering intricate questions. without his teleprompter he’s a loose cannon. sometimes i wonder if he has the prompter set up during these interviews, he seems to falter while looking away awaiting the answer to appear on the screen. in my opinion he would welcome the bro-hood in taking over egypt, jimmy carter gave welcome arms to the ayatollah khomeinhi
    and we are still dealing with that mistake.

    • Karolyn

      Didn’t Bush also address the Brotherhood at a meeting he had in Egypt? I watched part of an interview Christiane Amanpour had with a high-ranking official of the Brotherhood in which he claimed they have no plans on running anyone for election, and they are not seeking an Islamic government.

      • JUKEBOX

        Yeah, and we all know what a supporter of conservative ideologies Amanapour is, as well as her husband.

        • Karolyn

          Well, I seriously doubt she told the guy what to say!

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Hey Karolyn!

        Wanna buy a bridge??

    • http://?? Joe H.

      the best part of the interview was where Nobama said he doesn’t want to redistribute the wealth!!! That is 100% pure unadulterated Bull$hit!!!

      • JUKEBOX

        And he is going to show everyone his real birth certificate, and all of his school records.

  • http://com i41

    edee, we al forget if you are an indain as you claim, you are a ward of the government. Our elected jackasses are ot executives with a board to decide their saleries. These “servant” of the citizens set their ouw salaries and goodies. These elected slugs should only get twice of whaty our average citizen makes and they must pay their own damn benifits. Second these elected socalists want everyoneelse to pay the freight with taxe, put them on the same rate as the citizens pay.Save billions on life time retirements, put the Pres on 3 times average income ofthe citizens, he get to travel free, his family he can pay the freight and insurance is the same as everyone else. Golfing or vacationing he picks up the freight including security.

  • chuckb


    bush doesn’t count anymore remember. go back and read your history, look up iran in 1979, compare barry to carter you will get a reasonable facsimile. this is deja vu. barry is a muslim and sympathetic to the bro-hood, he thinks he can get along with them and wants to throw mubarak under the train. you notice he is now saying mubarak must go and they must hold hold democratic elections. what right does he have in getting involved in another countries politics, i’m sure he would love for an egyptian president to tell him to step down. it’s obvious to me he would love to see the bro-hood take over and they could share rugs. the muslims want one thing, world domination!! guess who would love to be king and queen of that world and you think their entourage is gaudy now, just wait.

    • Karolyn

      Obama is thinking abut what the Egyptian people want, so of course he wants Mubarak out. Despite what you might think, the US needs to remain friendly with as many governments as possible. We are a part of the world. I saw some protesters being interviewed, and they were looking for the US to back them up. You guys seem to think this is such an easy situation. I’d like to see you do it. I think you and everybody else who think Obama is a Muslim are absolutely wrong. I only brought up Bush because I don’t think he was condemned for meeting with them. Obama could be publicly baptized in a river, proclaim his allegiance to Jesus Christ, give up his salary, do everytyhing you think he should do; and you people would still condemn him for something.

      • JUKEBOX

        He might be thinking about what the Egyptian people want, but he don’t give a damn about what the American people want as long as he gets his Socialist programs put in place, kind of like Adolph did in the thirties.

  • chuckb


    did you ever watch barry when he speaks, when he tells a lie his eyes go half mast, most of the time his eyes are in that position, this man is a fraud.

    he indicates to me he knows very little about the legislation he proposes. he follows what the teleprompter tells him. hie organizing skills are good, look at how many people blindly follow him.

    the demo hierarchy knows most people will fear condemning him because of his color so what better puppet could they find.
    his only action so far was to turn this country upside down. the controversial healthcare bill is the biggest tax hike in history, yet very few seem to mention it, it is destroying the best medical care in the world and costing our freedom in the transaction. his stimulus bill was nothing more than a bailout for the unions and has done nothing towards unemployment, isn’t it obvious to you they are lying
    about the job reports, they are manipulating the figures, gallup shows the unemployment at 9.9 and it’s probably much higher than that.
    i see nothing good about this guy, he’s in over his head and taking the country down with him.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


      You are, indeed, very astute. I had not noticed Der Fuhrer’s eyes, but I cannot stand to look at him long enough to notice, I guess.

      You are correct. He only knows what the teleprompter tells him, and George Soros runs the teleprompter, in my opinion. Little Barry is a Soros stooge.

      What do you think?

  • chuckb

    old henry

    he dangles from the string that soros pulls.

  • DavidB

    I agree, I believe that ALL welfare ( ie foreign aid, 75% of military bases worldwide should be closed and our military brought home to protect our borders and spend those dollars here, any kind of preferential tax cuts, any kind of subsidies to anyone ) should be cut.
    If we do not take these drastic steps our economy will collapse and we will become a 3rd world country.

  • Charles

    Old Henry,chuckb,
    Whats going on at Fox News? I love to watch them, however, every
    time no matter what time and whose program is on there he is. I`m
    like you Old Henry I can`t stand to look at him either,so I turn Of Fox right away. It is like looking at Hitler. Are they starting to
    love this man or what? Obama must have worked hi magic.

  • Ridge Runner

    Karoltn i don’t think you are a bad person bu you are one of these bleeding heart liberals that would take in every stray dog cat and both human and animal until you had standing room only.I commend you for your generosity but it may be your un doing.Not every one is the same and some will need help and some can’t be helped.Youcan’t carry every one on your shoulders and our country can’t keep up the world.the people have to learn to help them selfs. If you think obama is doing a good job then you need to take another look.Obama shouldn’t be in this country and defently not in the white house. He is continueing the same distructive course that we have been on for 50 or 60 years.These liberals are realy nothing but communists and i don’t want that type of government.If you think these liberals are ok then you need some serious counseling.Obama has by passed the congress on most of his cabinet which is unconstutional. He appointed a homosexual over the schools of the u. s. and he is another one that said it would be benifical for a young person to have sex with an older person he also thinks it’s ok for same sex sex and i think he is sorry as some research you will find obama is homosexual. check out hillary and bill.A lot of the people have in the last few years have said they thought homosexuality was ok but i don’t and the prisions are ful of them both hims and hers. There is both learned and born homosexuals and i think both are unfortunant. to me they are both physicaly and mentaly wrong.Promoting homosexuality is another way these liberals(communists) are taking our country down.If you think all of what these liberals are doing then here is a joke that fits the moment. This man was going to jump from the top of a twenty story building in down town Birmingham Ala.A man was trying to talk him out of jumping. He said think of your mother,She’s dead?. then think of your father he’s dead?. then think of your sister don’t have one?.What about your brotherhe’s dead?.Then think of Robert E. Lee. the man wanted know who he was and was told jump yankee.

    • Karolyn

      Thanks for your civil comments, Ridge; however, I can’t buy what you believe, just as you can’t buy what I believe. I could care less what anybody’s sexual orientation is. I don’t believe Obama is a homosexual; but if he is, I really don’t care. I have no problem with homosexuality. Nobody is “promoting” homosexuality. It’s just time that these people had the same rights heterosexuals have. I recently heard a man who was raised by two lesbians talking about how well-adjusted he was. He is not gay and turned into a very respectable, responsible, intelligent adult. Talking about it or even children learning about it is not going to turn anybody into a homosexual. I do not believe it is a learned thing. The prisons are filled with all kinds of people. Those in prison who turn to same-sex sex do so out of a power trip and not because they are homosexuals. Please show me where Obama thinks it’s OK for an older person to have sex with a child. You said “younger person.” If that person is a younger adult, what’s wrong with that? I am happy with myself and my views and refuse to live in fear, anger and hate. We are ALL brothers and sisters – ALL children of God.

  • chuckb


    i think oreilly has a fixation with barry and fox has it’s share of the less witted progressives.

  • Asa Simmons

    Hi Everybody
    I just got a letter from my Rep. Don Manzullo. In it he talks
    about cutting back on this and that, nothing about doing away with
    agency that violate the Constitution. In particular the EPA. When he
    talked about the epa he talked about saving 4 billion, saying no agency deserved a 38 percent increase. This all is fine and dandy, but that’s not what I e-mailed him about. I e-mailed him about doing
    away with these un-Constitutional agency. I dare any one to show me that these agency are Constitutional! I can think of one right now that’s totally un-constitutional and that is the ATFE. This agency violates the 2nd, 4th, 5th, 9th 10th and 14th amendments. Since the House of Rep. controls the perse string all they have to do is not vote to give these agencies any money and they will go out of business tomarrow!!!

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


      Do you live near the Missippi? I know some folds from Fulton.

      Sounds like your Rep is just another established politician who has been in DC too long.

  • Charles

    I think your right about O`Reilly and I think your right about Fox
    having their share of Progressives. Did you hear anything about
    Obama sharing Englands atomic secrets with Russia in getting the Start Program started with Russia? Wilka Leaks are the ones who
    they say let the cat out of the bag. No one in the main stream media
    have reported a thing on this. I hope it`s not true,England is probley,the last true friend we have that could make a differance in a war if we needed help.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Leave it to him to screw us out of our last ally!!! I’m not sure this nation can afford two more years of this crap!!! God Help us all!!!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        The news said there were more murders in Guadelupe Mexico today!! No police and no army in the town two miles from Texas!! Good Luck Texas!!!


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