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Party Member Denounces GOP’s Lack Of ‘substance’

November 19, 2009 by  

Party member denounces GOP's lack of 'substance' Recent TV appearances by the woman at the center of the controversial election battle in New York’s 23rd congressional district have exposed what looks like an ongoing ideological struggle within the GOP.

Dede Scozzafava, a Republican candidate who quit the race for a House seat late last month and subsequently endorsed the Democratic candidate, told CNN she was subjected to "vicious" attacks from conservative members of the party for her alleged liberalism.

In the interview she stressed that local elections should be about local issues not big ideology and added that "hopefully a lesson can be learned [so that we] understand that there are many voices that make a party."

Meanwhile, speaking with MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow, Scozzafava was less diplomatic and said that these days the GOP was "really not based on any sort of substance," that could enable it to work for the benefit of the American people, quoted by Politico.com.

In the run-up to the vote, GOP heavyweights such as Sarah Palin and Dick Armey, as well as Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, chose to back a third-party candidate Doug Hoffman because of his more socially conservative credentials. However, he was defeated by Bill Owens who became the first Democrat to win the district in more than 100 years.

The shenanigans accompanying the final days of the campaign before the November 3 ballot brought the race to national attention and exposed divisions within the GOP between its conservative base and the party’s leadership who often back more moderate candidates.
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  • Linda L Hill

    From what I understand, there was fraud in the voting returns which were not exposed until after the candidate Doug Hoffman had given up. Besides, you can say what you will, the Republican candidate Dede Scozzafava turned trader and endorsed the Democrat after she decided to quit the race. The whole thing smells, what’s new?

    • Jana

      Call your Senator today on whether you want the Senate to vote on whether or not to have a discussion on this Health Care Bill. They are voting on this tomorrow, Sat.the 21st. If they vote yes, it is almost a positive that it will go through.

  • Linda L Hill

    Maybe there is a divide in the Republcan Party now, however, it is a good thing. The Party needs to be reawakened. What is really happening, is that the American People are not satisfied with the status quo, they are looking for a new voice, one that will speak the truth and get America back on the right path, because we are definately headed down the wrong one now!

    • James

      Linda, What do you mean when you say “get America back on the right path?” To me, the ‘right path’ means limiting the federal government to only the powers in Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution; and for Congress to recognize their restraints in the Bill of Rights.
      In our beginnings the Republicans lived by that while the Democrats wanted to stretch the Constitution into any ideological shape that political-correctness called for. Is that what you meant? Thanks.

      • DaveH

        There is only one party that can be trusted to take us back to the Limited Government, individual freedom, and individual responsibility that our Founders envisioned:
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform

        • James

          DaveH, the Libertarian Party doesn’t believe in any restraints, from what I’ve read about them. I’m sure that’s an overstatement but their Liberty Magazine has never supported the U.S. Constitution, at least in the 4 or 5 years I subscribed to it.

          • eyeswideopen

            Hands clapping, finally someone not afraid to stand up and speak the truth.

    • Richard McInnis

      Amen Linda

  • Robert

    Nancy Pelosi was informed that the election could not be certified because over 10,000 absentee ballots had not yet been counted and the race was too close. This information was not made available to Doug Hoffman at the time he conceded. But Nancy Pelosi swore in the democrat anyway in order to get his vote on Health Deform Bill. Americans should be more outraged about Ms. Pelosi’s actions and demand an investigation and temporary removal from her post until we know if she acted illegally. Again, the media is distracting the American voter from the real issue. Did Nancy Pelosi act in an illegal manner to get her agenda through?

    • Mike

      It should not surprise you that Pelosi and the democrats acted illegally they hate America and and the founding fathers. The Constitution is wrong (in there view) because it limits the power of the government and gives the power to the people. ALL she cares about is her power and the power of the government to control and rule over the people. In her view the ends justify the means and as long as she is in power and taking more and more freedom away and growing her power any thing goes.

      • Mark Dabney

        The problem I have with NeoCons using the word “hate” is that it is very much like the Gay rights advocates when they use the same term as a deflection.

        This country is going into judgment because BOTH sides do the same thing- carp at the other while refusing to own up to their own inequities. We are a nation of Laodacians- we deem ourselves rich – yet we are really poor [we blindly believe in the stated goals - oblivious to the evil insidious UNSTATED goals that are EVIL]

        God loves this country- make no mistake- but be clear about this: as Christ said to the Laodacians: “those I love I discipline- now be earnest and repent or I will spit you out of my mouth” god is getting ready to “love up” on this once great republic as you cannot imagine.

        The term “Liberal” stems from the Latin word “Libertas” which means “freedom” the freedom to change [not to be confused with yet another MT platitude - Ephesians 5:6] The founders were LIBERAL because they rejected aristocracy and set up a constitutional republic that has been gutted over the generations. We have the outward trappings of a representative form of government to keep the people from revolting.

        Restoring the republic will involve a tremendous cost- not in federal reserve notes- nor the gold or silver they fraudulently displaced- but the moral courage for us to be honest with ourselves.

        • Richard Pawley

          Mark,
          You have hit the nail on the head. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Those who believe in the power of God need to pray for the likes of OPR (not Oprah, but Obama, Pelosi, Reid and the others) who appear to be on a course to destroy the United States of America. It almost seems as if they want to go down in history at the ones who did this. More and more it looks as if God has allowed the electorate to choose them to be his agents of punishment much as he chose the Pharoah to bring about the worst plagues to ancient Egypt. Democrats and Republicans have become opposite sides of the same coin. Both like to think they have the answers but the answers can only be found when we return to personal accountability & personal responsibility. Electing Republicans just because they are Republicans next year will not solve the problem. We need fresh blood. Moral people to replace those who long ago became politically correct. (My definition of political correctness is that it is God’s punishment to mankind for sin). Look at what each individual, regardless of party, has done in the past, not what they say they will do. My Democratic Representative voted against the dollar destroying health care rationing bill that the House barely passed. If he continues his support of the United States and not special interests he will get my support. Our current Senate is another case. Ninety percent of them are bought and sold and the USA would be much better off if the vast majority of them were replaced ASAP. It won’t save the nation from what they have already set in motion but it will be justice to get them out of the way. We are on a collision course with history and the next decade is going to be the most amazing and catastrophic one yet. God is beginning to administer His justice to the USA and to the world. We all will be affected but it will almost be worth it to see the arrogant godless ones who are enemies of all but themselves go down into the dust bin of history. Long live freedom!

          • Carri Byers

            Agreed Richard. The number 1 thing we can do is use the power we do have at our disposal and VOTE THE BUMS OUT! It’s time the Christian population takes our responsibility seriously and exercises our most basic right as citizens – VOTE! Remove every incumbent.

            Do you realize that, even with the House and the Senate at a very low approval rating, We The People (WTP) put encumbents back into office at a 90 -96% rate! How rediculous is that!

            Even if we lose some good representatives in voting every encumbent out of office, it’s vital that we send a strong message to our “leaders” that term limits are here to stay. They have refused for years to put through a Constitutional Amendment and allow the people to decide…so the people have to decide without their help. It’s time they listened to our voice for a change, but we have to get their attention.

            We need to vote out every incumbent for the next several election cycle and totatly disrupt Washington as a slap them in the face. Then maybe they will recognize who their boss is and they will listen to WTP for a change.

          • Joe H.

            Richard,
            Don’t ask me to try to sway God on the judgment of Pelousy or any of her immediate cohorts!!! I will leave that to God himself. In the meantime I will do everything in my power to legally remove her and her co-conspirators from office!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        Mike, why do you people hold a Speaker of the House responsible for the locally run and supervised election? Oh, I forgot, you hold her responsible for anything that happens in this country. Sorry. Although it would make more sense that the state of New York, and then the district would be responsible for any suspect voting problems don’t you think? You assign too much power to that women. I know she is the rights, best boggie man, but really she doesn’t have the power to accomplish everything that your right wing group accuses her of.

        • denniso

          Pelosi is one of the rightwings’ scapegoats partly because she is the first ever woman speaker..that’s progress they can’t handle..they would like to keep things like they were 100 yrs ago when only white aristocratic men ruled over them and sent their kids off to die in needless wars.

          • Dale

            Don’t confuse liberal in the broad sense with Pelosi or the dimmicrats . . . they are “Progressives”. Many left-leaners down through history have identified as such. Check it out . . . this puts her in the company of many despots and dictators of the 20th century.
            Any politician who doesn’t believe in following the US Constitution as written . . . is a Progressive. Repubs like Scozzafava need to be treated like the subversives they are. Having two dimmicrat parties, dim and dim-light, for the past decade has not worked well.

          • Phil LaRue

            Nonsense… Conservatives got behind Sarah Palin for Vice President.

          • Mary

            I don’t know in what type of drugs are you in. But sure they messed you up. This is the best country in the world ( before BO of course )People die to get in. Check the South border. Best Health care. If you think I’m wrong, travel to third world countries. I’m not saying this country is perfect. If you know a better country let me know because if camarades Obama and Puposi succed with their Evil plans I have to look for a better place to live. What About BO war. I don’t like war. I’ll prefer this country to get all the army back home. And when the enemies attack us just Level them.We have to use our resources and forget about been politically correct.That is killing us.

          • John

            Sure just like your left wing scapegoats, Bush, Cheney, Palin…

          • Joe H.

            Yeah denniso,
            We can’t support that kind of change, you are right. She has lied about what she knew about the treatment of the GITMO prisoners, she lied about what she knew about the invasion of IRAQ, and has called honorable veterans of the United States military terrorists, oh and let’s not forget calling peaceful,clean demonstrators “ASTROTURF”!!!

        • RoBoTech

          To start with, this was NOT a local election and saying it doesn’t make it so.
          It was a FEDERAL election, and ANY Federal candidate elected makes decisions for ALL of us, or are you too stupid to understand that?
          Point in case, he voted for the Health and Death Panel bill. THAT doesn’t effect all of us? Of course it does. And that means we ALL should be concerned who gets elected as a US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE SEAT!
          So those Socialist talking points you put forth are, quite frankly CRAP!
          And Scuzzygirl is just a sour grapes” Liberal. She means nothing to me. And the fact she says the same as YOU (or probably, vica versa) do about “local elections”, just vindicates my opinion of her. She’s a Socialist Liberal, just like you.
          So your nonsense means nothing, either. The truth is the truth, and Sir, you are a LIAR, and that means, YOU LIE!!!

        • DaveH

          Eyeswideshut,
          Do you ever really read anybody’s comments? They were talking about Pelosi swearing in Bill Owens, when he hadn’t yet been certified as the winner, so he could vote on the health care bill in the House.

          • eyeswideopen

            Daveh, yes, it just never occured to me that people would make stupid statements without knowning the rules. Deschler’s Precedents states “Where Certificates of Election have not been received, the House, may by unanimous consent authorize the Speaker to administer the oath to Members-elect who elections are not contested.” Thus, while the Republicans presumably could have objected to Owens’ being sworn in, their failure to do so meant that he could be seated prior to the receipt of a Certificate of Election. Hoffman conceded the race, he did not file to contest it. Once again the Republicans screwed up and are blaming Pelosi. That is my point. When in the hell are they ever going to be accountable for anything? They had the option and failed to excersise the right to prevent him from being sworn in. Do you ever understand anything besides Government is Force? Forgive me I thought most people understood how the elections worked, especially if they were going to make comments about it. Apparently not.

        • Jana

          eyes and denniso, you are sooo smart. You hit the nail on the head. We just love to blame everything bad on Pelosi. I mean even global warming is her fault. Why, she is even the reason we had to fight the war in Viet Nam and even WW2.

          Sure, we just blame her for everything.

          Now, do you feel better??

          • eyeswideopen

            Jana, you are the typical radical who never accepts or holds themselves accountable for anything. You always blame the other guy. Reminds me of children caught doing something wrong. When you become an adult, you might step forward and say, yes, I made a mistake and will now try to fix it, instead of blaming the other guys every time.

          • Joe H.

            Jana,
            Kinda’ reminds me of someone….let’s see it right on the tip of my tongue…..Oh yeah, O-man blaming Bush for everything, even the stuff that happened on his watch!!!

          • JeffH

            Eye, your statement only solidifies the fact you are a hypocrit of the highest degree! As one who spews excuses of Bush and Cheney constantly, you must take responsibilty for yourself prior to any accusations of others.

          • JeffH

            eyes, you are just an easy target. Bereboni, hook, line and sinker again! Catch and release.

  • Robert

    One more thing to consider. Since the New York Elections Commissions told Nancy Pelosi the election could not be certified, she then decided who won the election. Hey upstate New York, Nancy Pelosi just told you your vote means nothing. She is the ultimate decider of who does or does not get elected. I’ll send you all a jumbo jar of vasaline to help ease the pain because Nancy sure won’t. It’s not in her Health Deform Bill. Impeach Pelosi now!!

  • Andrew

    Uhhhh, she was a progressive liberal to begin with. The only substance missing is her honesty. They backed another candidate because they want to rid the country of these insane policies. Plain and simple.

  • http://leeandbessieflanders@yahoo.com lee

    Living in 223rd.district I can say everybody I know voted for Hoffman or at least won’t admit to voting for Dede.Something is wrong here!!!

    • Robert

      Lee. I feel for all of you. Something stinks about what happened in your district and the media is playing it down. There are a few rumors going around (Rumors but something that needs to be fact checked) that there is some questionability about the legitimacy of some of the votes cast (Did Mickey Mouse vote again?). I believe that all the voters in your district should demand an investigation by an independent group not beholding to any politician or party. Sorry about the crude vasaline comment. Nothing against upstate NYers, just trying to stir up some positive emotions. Just an opinion from a guy in The Bronx.

      • Joe H.

        Robert,
        Mickey mouse, betty Boop, Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, and a whole lot of other non-people voted!!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        Robert, trying to stir up positive emotions? WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP THAT STATEMENT IS. Yes, you are trying to rile up something, but positive, is so far off base, you would need a blind fold to miss what you are attempting to do….. Hint, it is the same thing all the Republicans do at every turn. In ten years, you should be pretty embarrassed with your actions and statements.

        • Joe H.

          Gee eyes,
          That seems to be the thing that libbers try at EVERY election!!!

  • http://www.politicalchristian.org Larry Miller

    Of course the Republican Party is lacking in substance… how else would a liberal like Scozzafava ever get the nomination?

    • eyeswideopen

      Larry, Yankees, really resent it when someone like Palin and Armey come in and try to tell them who to vote for. Hoffman didn’t even live in the district. They sent a message, but the Conservatives are refusing to listen.

      • Carri Byers

        Some message! A third party candidate with no name recognition and very little charisma, but a great conservative message in a race with a well known Republican (of sorts) and Democratic candidates and loses by a mere 3%(contested). The message from this race is to the RNC, not Conservatives. The message is: Keep a close eye out for fraud in every election and run a Conservative candidate instead of wasting funds on a RHINO!

        • Joe H.

          Carri,
          It was only 223 votes. Just wait till he becomes “known”!!!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          Well, I would say that the RNC, the Conservatives, and the Republican Congressmen failed all of the district. The Conservatives should have stayed out, to enter opinions and try and position the race at such a late time frame was just stupid. Palin and Armey should have stayed out, came in too late in game. Rnc. should have been watching out for Hoffmans rights, and Congress could have objected to Pelosi administering the Oath. Major screw up by all. Be Proud, and be aware it could happen again, as you have so many narcissusists in the right that there is no leader.

  • http://personalliberty bob

    Sarah Is Coming,Vote conservative In 2010

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      We would need a grass roots revolution to get your dream into a reality! Perhaps, Glen Beck can start sometime because he has the resources to do it seems? I understand the he is coming through the cities of Florida to talk face to face with people like us! Just, hope that it does not turn out to be more mainstream media lies!

  • Mary Yelton

    First off, there is way more to this story than we know. No one bails out on a highly public race. The truth will eventually come to the surface.
    Secondly, the democrates think it is everyone right to have health care and as a small business, we may not be able to afford that. This is the point… as American’s we provide opportunity to everyone, but we don’t mandate taxing the general public to give to others. Isn’t that one of the reasons we left England.

  • Barbara

    What does it speak of the candidate (Scozzafava)that she would take hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Republican Party, then toss her support to the left? Talk about disenfranchising the people!She was a Dem all the time!

    • Joe H.

      Barbara,
      Can you remember Specter????

  • john w

    Why is she even in the Republican party? The real problem with the Republican party is that these types that don’t really represent what the party should be about are trying to change it into the Democratic party. Why don’t they be like Arlen Specter and just go join the Democrats.

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    No matter how well intentioned, there is virtually no philosophical difference between an idiot and a genius i.e., the Republican and the Democratic Parties! Besides, Evil is evil, anyhow! Our country has been taken over by “evil” long before I was born and I’m going on 62 years of age!

    • Carri Byers

      You’re right and we are the ones who allowed it to happen. We fell asleep and let Satan take the reigns. It’s time to take those reigns back and the only way is to use the one weapon we have at our disposal…OUR VOTES!! Talk to your neighbor, if he won’t listen, talk to the next one and the next one and encourage them all to vote. 2010 is the only chance we have left to get our country back and it will have to be a landslide victory to overcome the chicanery that exists in the voting process. It has to be so overwhelming there won’t be any doubt as to our intentions. We all must do our part. We all must get off our duffs and let our voices be heard. If you have a Tea Party Organization in your area, get involved. If you don’t, start one up. Make a difference. Don’t go back to sleep. 2010 IS THE GOAL!!!

  • Carl W

    It seems the Republican National Committee is more interested in supporting candidates with socialist leanings rather than conservatives. Remember that Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania wasn’t backed by his own party when he ran for re-election to the Senate because he was a real conservative with Christian principles. Having voted Republican since the Goldwater days of 1962 I have fallen out with the RNC. McCain was a victim of the backlash against Bush and even Sarah Palin, who brought more votes for the ticket, couldn’t help them beat a charismatic Obama. We need more Hoffmans, Santorums, DeMints, Palins who are for small government, Christian values, limited taxation and spending, and for stopping illegal immigration. I voted for Ron Paul in the Republican Primary last year and for the Constitution Party candidate in the general election because they hold to these principles.

    • Jeff J

      I almost always vote Republican, but there is too much from the right wing of the party on “pushing religion” on everyone. If they stick with core principles such as smaller and less government intervention, they will be more successful. The other big issue is abortion. This is a charged issue and is best left to a woman and her doctor, not government. If the Republicans did these 2 things, more people would vote for Republicans. People like Pat Robertson give Republicans a bad name because of their intolerance. I have no problem with Christian values, but don’t try to force them down my throat. Where is a good Republican like Christine Todd Whitman, former governor of New Jersey? She is conservative on government issues and does not push religion on everyone.

      • Carl W

        I don’t think Pat Robertson is forcing Christianity on anyone. But I’d rather have leaders who adhere to traditional morality of our nation which was based on Judeo-Christian teachings. Most of our founding fathers were Christians, even ministers who prayed in congress, yet they didn’t force anyone to accept Christ. That is up to each person. Some of the founding fathers may not have been Christian themselves, but they did believe in the word of God. Because of this belief in Christ and God these founding fathers gave us a nation in which people can be whatever religion they want or no religion. We do not have a national church as did England, but people were and are free to worship as they please or be secular. Ronald Reagan said in 1984, “If we ever forget that we’re on nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under”. He also spoke of prayer and quoted the verses from Ecclesiastes.

        • eyeswideopen

          Carl, James Madison said “the purpose of seperation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries”. We have allowed religion to become comingled with politics and that is not what our founding fathers had in mind.

          • Dale

            Read it again Eyes . . . Separation of Church and State . . . which means . . . THE STATE SHALL RECOGNIZE NO DENOMINATION OR RELIGION . . . period!!! It does not mean that no one can be Religious.
            Back in the day, every Euro country had a State Religion, Italians-Catholic, Germans-Lutheran, Brits-Anglican.
            What the loonie left interprets today is wrong, wrong, wrong.

          • eyeswideopen

            Dale, maybe you should be arguing with James Madison and his interpretation of his own papers. He made the statement to make it clear to future generations exactly what he meant, not me. You radical rt wingers, want to use Religion combined with fear tactics to force people into one religion and one party. It may surprise you but not all Christians are Republican/Conservatives. So it may be a couple of years until you can try and turn this country into the next totalitarian state.

        • James

          CarlW, All of the Founding Fathers were Christians, two were Catholics and the rest were Protestants. And needless to say they were all of the same race.

      • eyeswideopen

        Excellent comment!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          Excellent Comment was for Jeff J.

      • Dan, Phoenix

        Jeff, I am in the same boat as yourself. I am conservative and I believe that my religion has nothing to do with being conservative. I am anti-abortion, because of my religious beliefs and my personal morals, but this is a land of choice and if one chooses to abort, then that decision is between her, and her God. I disgree, however, to force the taxpayers to pay for an abortion that is done by choice and not because the mothers health is in danger. There are thousands of parents that cannot have children and are willing to adopt an unwanted baby.

        The Republican party is torn between religious conservatives that are anti-abortion at all costs and the progressives that “go along” with the leftist agenda. To be a conservative Republican is to believe in smaller government, fiscal responsibility, a strong national defense, free-market capitalism and the Constitution.

        I was Democrat but I voted for the candidate that I felt was the best, D or R. I have left the Democrat Party and become a Republican because I have opened my eyes to the lies from the left. This is the land of “opportunity” not the land of “handouts”.

        Real Republicans believe in equal opportunity to all, Dems believe in handouts to minorities.

        • DaveH

          Dan,
          Look into the Libertarian Party. You may find that they embody the ideals that you seek:
          http://libertarianparty.org/platform

        • eyeswideopen

          Dan, have you looked at the handouts that are given to the corporations? The amount would scare the heck out of you. This country is being run by the corporations. Follow the money. How are the Congressmen voting? Is it for the citizens welfare or the corporations who have given millions to fund their election campaigns? All subsidies given to the corporations need to stop immediately and campaign election reform should be next on the peoples agenda.

      • Joe H.

        Jeff J,
        Then don’t make me pay taxes to pay for abortion!!! I don’t believe in it unless it is to save the life of the mother in that to have the baby will kill her in delivery. Also in all cases of incest and some cases of rape!!

        • eyeswideopen

          Joe H. your taxes don’t pay for abortions. You are using the Repub talking points, making you look like a fool, as it is against the law for monies to be used for that reason. Do a little research and it will make you feel better.

          • Joe H.

            Eyes hon,
            What is the biggest arguing point between the Dems right now on the health care bill? Whether to fund ABORTIONS!!! Read up on your OWN party!!!!

        • American Citizen

          If the pregnancy is an ectopic one, they have to take the developing baby or they will both die.

      • commonsense

        well said jeff j

      • thelightchaser

        How can it be said that Christianity is being forced down anyone’s throats when we have the ACLU and atheists winning all the court battles? Merry Christmas must be happy holiday. All Christian holy days cannot be mentioned because it will offend Bill Maher. Political correctness is destroying our society and our culture.

        Conservatives are supposed to believe in personal choice and personal responsibility. They believe that we become better as individuals and as a country when we achieve on our hard-earned knowledge, skill, and individual creativity…democracy equals meritocracy. We learn from failure and get up and try again.

        Liberals believe in social justice. All students are honor students; therefore, no one shall fail. Businesses are too big to fail. People who are too low in self-esteem will be guaranteed self-esteem. Liberals are opposed to meritocracy, BUT meritocracy is good in athletics…there we can have winners and losers…there we can have individual standouts…there we can have players making $100 million while not providing a single job.

        It doesn’t make sense to argue Republican or Democrat. There are conservative atheists, christians, Jews, and Muslims. There are also conservative blacks, whites, and browns. I think what Jeff is saying is that non-christian conservatives don’t want to feel like they have to be born again christians to be conservative.

        We need to know that we are Americans first. We are a country of immigrants, but we are not internationalists. We need to look out for each other because our enemies will take advantage of our division and destroy our way of life. When the Soviets threatened the world, we stepped in with aid to help raise the standard of living of non-soviet countries. It is time to realize that our former allies are not our friends. They are bleeding us dry with foreign aid when there is no longer a Soviet threat. Billions have been squandered in the UN in corruption.
        Conservatives and Liberals need to look to rebuilding America’s middle class which was outsourced by Republiicans and Democrats whose pockets and campaign coffers were filled by multi-national corporations. Even the bailout of AIG was nothing more than a way to send US dollars to Europe and and other foreign powers to pay the 100 cents on the dollar for investments that were worth pennies.

        Globalization and global economy is a way for the multi-nationalists to say we must lower our standard of living to create more competitive jobs so we can export. We are now importing everything. Factories are now called the rust belt. Why? Because internationalists say we can’t be protectionist. We are the only country in the world that doesn’t practice protectionism because our liberal and conservative democrats and republicans are selling us down the drain for the special interest dollars that keep them in power.

        While they keep us arguing about religion and race and ethnicity, they divert us from realizing that they talk liberal or conservative, but our country has been going downhill since George H.W. Bush.

        Instead of waiting for these politicians to tell us, let’s tell them what we want. We want them to act in the best interests of American citizens by bringing our jobs home, getting the government out of our schools where they are spending the school days indoctrinating future citizens of the world instead of reading, writing, math, civics, and American history.

        • Richard McInnis

          Yes, we are Americans first. Therefore we have the right to believe in what we want, without retribution. Just as long as we don’t try to bring down the sovereignty of our Country. Unfortunately we are being challenged by people who think our country should go a different direction. Lets hope and pray that these people are not re-elected.

      • American Citizen

        I don’t see anyone pushing religion on us. There is such a thing as right and wrong and that’s true in politics, too.

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      If only enough would do so to make a difference, but I do not see that happening. Our propaganda, especially from our mainstream press, is just too good at lying!

    • American Citizen

      You’re right, the NRC and also at the state level, they don’t support the best candidates. I worked for a woman running for a National Congressional seat. She had served in our state Senate and is again today. Because the state didn’t get behind her until too late, she lost to the Democrat. I was so angry that they allowed lies to be told about her at the last minute that cost her the election. A typical Democrat tactic.

      • eyeswideopen

        American, the Repubs do not want women in Congress. If they did we would have more than a measley 21 that we have now. 17 in the House and 4 in the Senate. Total of 95 women in Congress out of 535 seats.

  • James Corbin

    I am outraged at Nancy Pelosi, How can she get by with so much wrong doings? This bunch in the Whitehouse does what ever they want to no matter if it’s against the constitution or it matters not what the people think. They are suppose to be working for us! We pay them!!!!!

    • James

      James C., I agree, but how many of us write our representative and tell him/her how to vote on certain proposed legislation? How many of us even know our representative’s name?

  • Gump

    The “Base” wants fiscal conservatives. Social issues are secondary. It is morally wrong to spend our children into oblivian. Being in favor of things like Card Check and massive new energy taxes as Scozzafava is, will condem future generations to third world poverty.

    The Republican party is 95% moderates with a handfull of conservatives. For anyone to conclude that we aren’t inclusive enough because we don’t want liberals like Scozzafava, who will vote with the Dems 75% of the time is crazy.

  • marie davis

    when canidates put the -R- beside thier name but reflect little of the foundational principles of our founding documents==THEY BETTER GET USED TO NOT BEING SUPPORTED.
    i beleive we will continue to have actual conservatives who understand where the basis of freedom comes from and will stand up–they will rise and we will support them. no matter the initials by their name. she had been hand selected and appeared left of the leftist. good riddens!!!

    • Gump

      We should get some conservative canidates to put a -D- in front of their name and run as Democrats. Lets see how inclusive their party is.

      • American Citizen

        They should do like the Dems do who run as moderates, only to vote liberal. The Reps could run as Dems who are liberal, only to turn conservative when they vote.

  • Ron M

    Where is the RNC in all of this and why are they not screaming to high heaven? I do not think it is LEGAL to swear someone into office when the election has not been CERTIFIED. Where are the Republicans in the House and why have they stood by and watched all this happen? I personally believe that most members of Congress are just alike, no matter which party they belong to and they cut deals that enrich themselves at the expense of WE THE PEOPLE. To quote a Texan from a few years back, “It is time to take a shovel and go clean out the Barn”. If you do not want this to become the USSA in the very near future, it is TIME TO GET INVOLVED and throw the Bums Out.

    • Carri Byers

      Absolutely Ron!!! The problem is they all have to take handouts themselves in order to be re-elected. If we take that concern away from them by making sure every Congressman elected goes in with the understanding that WTP are enacting our own term limits. NO MORE ENCUMBENTS!!!! That will stop the need for the money flow and maybe make our representatives do what they were meant to do, focus on protecting the Constitution and our rights as citizens.

  • http://www.personlliberty.com Lois Ann Milloy

    My view of our political system today sadly finds both Parties have ruined our American way of life and is rapidly destroying our Constitution.

    How many times has the majority of the Nation said “I’ll be so glad when he’s our of office. ANYBODY would be better than what we have!”

    Our so-called leaders have destroyed to means of living in freedom, silenced the citizens from speaking their minds and taken away the dream of betterment in all directions.

    We have given our rights over to greedy dictators and pure evil. Imagine paying somebody to cripple you! Well, this is what we are doing, folks. We’ve BEEN doing this for the past few decades.

    History does repeat and sorrowful we have not learned from these errors. Greece gave up their stronghold in lieu of Olympians. (Sound familiar?) Rome gave up their Empire to opening up their operations to far too many outsiders who all wanted things ‘their’ way. Thru gladiator mentality and brutal force we know the end of THAT story.

    Finally, another chance of living life to fullest and some chance of freedoms. International eyes turned to the United States. Of course, in given time the same failures surfaced forth. Industrialism turned to materialism, pleasureable sports became gladiator mentality that failed Greece thru Olympi-mania and laziness to allow politicians to rule personal lives brings us to the depths of another failure.

    Wake up and strive for your survinal, your homes, your family and dignity. Refuse to be a part of the problem one minute longer. Refuse to allow some soul-less politician to drag you down to their depths and speak out. This is how our Nation was born and time to re-vive it once again.

    • JeffH

      Thanks for your thoughtful comments.

    • Carri Byers

      RIGHT!!!! VOTE in 2010 and get rid of every single encumbent. Put in Conservatives or at least people who promise to listen to the voice of the people. But most importantly….SEND A MESSAGE! NO MORE ENCUMBENTS!

      • Joe H.

        Carri,
        Flip the house!!! and no more career politicians!!!

  • techwreck

    If you haven’t figured out by now that Republicans run as conservatives to get our votes and then govern as progressives, you just aren’t paying attention.

    That’s why I am a registered Independent committed to the most conservative candidate, not to the GOP.

    I sincerely hope that the election returns show Hoffman the winner, but after the Franken debacle in Minnesota, don’t count on it. The Dems seem to have the edge when it comes to election fraud.

    • Carri Byers

      I truly respect and honor those like yourself who are informed enough to see things for what they are, but the answer for 2010 is not a third party. The Independent party doesn’t have the muscle yet to pull in enough votes to beat the Democratic voting machine. Like it or not, the Republican Party is the only vehicle we have for 2010 through which to enact the changes we must to save our republic. If we divide our conservative votes among a variety of Independent, Conservative and Libertarian candidates the Progressives win. Get involved in your local Republican campaigns. Work right now for getting good candidates on the ticket and then get the word out to all your conservative friends about them. We can’t afford to throw our vote away in 2010!!! PLEASE, PLEASE work within the Republican Party and make it listen to the will of its base. It really is the only answer.

      • Joe H.

        Carri,
        I have been a “registered” republican all my voting life. I want to have a voice in who the repubs select to run. I may not vote for who they run anymore unless the person is conservative but in the back of my mind is the fact that if we vote third party and they come in second we have repeated what happened in 2008, divided the vote just enough to elect O-man! And I DON’T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN!!!!

  • Dennis Hollingsead

    Everyone here is talking and writing to the wrong people. We CANNOT just “discuss among ourselves”. Over the last several weeks I have been e-mailing every U.S. Senator with my comments and concerns (health care and other topics). Apparently NO ONE is listening; all I get back is automated generic “thank you for your comments”.

    I now believe that the only way to REALLY get their attention is to send them physical letters. There needs to be a blizzard of paper like they have NEVER seen before. That is the ONLY thing that will get their attention. Physical paper WILL make a statement that electronic communication can never achieve! Please copy this and send it to all your friends and then send letters like you have never done before. Maybe we can keep our Postal Service out of bankruptcy!

    • JeffH

      same here, and I like you idea.

    • DaveH

      Dennis,
      I have had great Email success by telling them that I will not only vote against them, but I will also actively campaign against them. That gets responses.

  • James Corbin

    Carl, Yes If we forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under!

  • James Corbin

    I received an e-mail with the address to send Christmas card to the ACLU. Tell them Merry Christmas! You don’t want to call a Christmas Tree a Holiday tree. Make sure your Christmas card has Merry Christmas

    ACLU
    126 Broad ST.
    18th Floor
    New York, NY 10004
    These people are trying to take Christ out of Christmas!

    • JeffH

      just added to my Christmas list along with Obama.

    • Joe H.

      James,
      Thanks ever so much for the address. And an early Merry Christmas to you and yours!!!! Joe H.

  • Grace Leisy

    This is why I’ve just re-registered as Independent and I’ve been a voting Republican since Eisenhower’s election!

    • Carri Byers

      I’m going to cut and paste here because the message is that important.

      I truly respect and honor those like yourself who are informed enough to see things for what they are, but the answer for 2010 is not a third party. The Independent party doesn’t have the muscle yet to pull in enough votes to beat the Democratic voting machine. Like it or not, the Republican Party is the only vehicle we have for 2010 through which to enact the changes we must to save our republic. If we divide our conservative votes among a variety of Independent, Conservative and Libertarian candidates the Progressives win. Get involved in your local Republican campaigns. Work right now for getting good candidates on the ticket and then get the word out to all your conservative friends about them. We can’t afford to throw our vote away in 2010!!! PLEASE, PLEASE work within the Republican Party and make it listen to the will of its base. It really is the only answer.

  • http://yahoo Jill

    I never ceased to be amazed that during the time of a Democratic Pres or Joint House that the Republicans come out slinging mud as if involved in a never ending episode of Jerry Springer.

    Stats: (Please verify for your own edification) More Democrats are professors of Constitutional law than are Republicans. And yet Republicans are the ones continously denouncing Democrats for failing to adhere to the Constitution.

    The Constitution clearly sets forth a separation of church and state. Not because there isn’t a place in the world and our lives for both; but rather that we do not co-mingle them and fail to live up to the primary objective of the Constitution – that both have freedoms which cannot and should not overlap in order that ALL people are best served.

    The Republican party in the past 50 years has turned on their own and dubbed them with the Scarlet letter M[oderate] as if they, first, have the right to judge another; and second, that the Republican party is not capable of encompassing a wide range of people with the same ideals – just different degrees.

    MOST OF ALL!! We are in wartime and yet since the election of Barack Obama, the citizens of this nation have been more embroiled in Health Care than in concern for our troups overseas. Nancy Pelosi did not write the bill that came out of the House by herself. She, with many other members of the House, created a bill to send to the Senate for the next round. It is time to quit casting blame and pointing fingers. It makes us appear ignorant in the eyes of the world, and no better than other countries who are fighting for their very freedom WHICH WE HAVE HAD FOR a hundred years+. We have become a nation of fools so intrigued by our next spewing of hatred and bias that we fail to realized we are all Americans. Just as we were the day McVeigh bombed the Murrah building in Oklahoma City, when the first criminal act took place on the WTC in ’93, and then again on September 11. Can we not remember that we are one nation?!

    And BTW, if we allow the criminals who attacked U.S. soil on September 11th to be tried in a military tribunal, these criminals will be vindicated. It is what they pray for each and every day. For if we try them in the military forum, then they will be thought of as soldiers who were heroes for their country. If we try them in the federal court system in New York as criminals, then their “heroic” efforts on behalf of the Islamic nut jobs have failed. They are nothing more than criminals. Which would you rather they be? We have the finest legal system in the world. It is time to TRUST that a jury made up of your peers will do the right thing by these CRIMINALS who are NOT war heroes for their countries!

    • Robert

      Ahem!The problem is that these terrorists do not represent any specific country. If they did, don’t you think Americans whould have demanded we blow the crap out of them. Wait until these terrorists come to New York City for trial. You have no idea what us New Yorkers who were there that dreadful day feel about this issue. And if you know anything about New Yorkers, look at the response in lower Manhattan back in 1969 when the peaceniks protested our involvement. Close to uncontrolled violence. What do think is going to happen when the bleeding heart demonstrators show up before the Federal Courts Building in Lower Manhattan supporting these terrorist? You don’t have a clue, because you are not a New Yorker and you have chosen to forget about that day. Well I haven’t and neither have most us. We want these bastards dead once and for all. And not 30 years from now after all their appeals are heard. Go back to your secure little town and don’t forget to make sure you get a big piece of the homeland security pie to protect you from the next terrorist attack. I’m sure your little town is #1 on the terrorists radar screen. By the way, doesn’t it even bother you to know that us taxpayers have to pay the bill for their defense? I’m outraged about this. Why not have all those foreign governments who are condemning our treatment of these terrorists pay the bill? Like Saudi Arabia and the Europeans. Anyone else feel this way?

      • Curtis S

        That sound a little like Jihad.

      • Mary

        You’re right Robert. It’s going to be ugly. I have the feeling like this goverment is looking for a reason to use violence against the citizens. Those terrorist should have a militar trial in Guantanamo.I believe Socialist loves population control. Maybe I’m wrong and they just think New Yorker has no blood in their veins.

        • Joe H.

          Mary,
          I hope you don’t mind me using your reply line to say this. Everyone here should just start ignoring Curtis’ posts here as he has come here from Germany, gotten an education in our country and now has the intestinal fortitude to slam our country not only about the middle east, but about WW2 in his country!!!! I for one will not dignify his drivel and spew with any more posts to him! God Bless America!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            JoeH, he hasn’t slamed this country. He might not agree with your views, but you response is why we are dislike throughout most of the civilized world. If you rt wingers don’t or can’t logically refute an idea, you call that person names and demean them. While trying to get the mob mentality working together against that person. None of you have enough confidence in your knowledge or beliefs to hold an honest debate. You all try and get another person on the site to back you up and this is an example of the impotence the radical right feels. Sad, very sad. He may have become a legal citizen, who has every right that you have. His country of origin may be Germany, but he can still be a Us citizen. You and yours jump to conclusions without thinking.

      • eyeswideopen

        you, like all the radicals make assumptions and condemn anyone who isn’t towing the Conservative party line. Dude you are an ignorant idiot for doing that. Didn’t anybody teach you about making an ass outta yourself by making assumptions? Your self righteous attitude makes me want to puke. You have no idea who or what Jill’s story is, but you will condemn her and proclaim to be a Christian and a Patriot. You sir, are neither.

        • JeffH

          …and you are tha “Queen of assumptions”.

          • eyeswideopen

            Ditto, how are your remedial classes coming along?

    • Gump

      The Republican party embraces moderates. How else could McCain win the nomination? If the Republican party starts embracing liberalisim, why even have 2 parties? The Democrat party is all liberals without exception. Don’t forget they kicked Liberman out over 1 issue. So much for encompassing a wide range of people.

    • JeffH

      Do you believe for a moment that the Democrats are any less vindictive at slinging the mud? They both sling the “crap” equally well just in differant ways. The Democrats with their “knowledge” of the Constitution just figure out more ways to undermine it.
      Niether party is your or my friend and for anyone to think otherwise is naive. To both parties,it’s all about “power and greed”.

    • DaveH

      Jill,
      You said “The Constitution clearly sets forth a separation of church and state”.
      Where?

    • Carri Byers

      The problem with having the trial in civil court is that Habeas Corpus comes into play. All the rights under Habeas Corpus are then given to these terrorists. Since at least one of these men has asked to represent themselves in tribunals in the past, it is very likely one or more of them will do so again. That means that all evidence held against them AND THE MEANS BY WHICH IT WAS ACQUIRED will be made available to the master minds of 9/11. Our country’s means of intelligence will be opened wide. These men will, of course, have the means and the wherewithal to get that information to their cohorts. That is the number 1 concern we should all have.

      The other thing about this is the fact that these men have confessed. There is no need for trial, only a sentencing. The only reason these men are being brought to NEW YORK, of all places, is to put the Bush administration on trial. This is Obama’s best course to turn the spot light off his failed policies and poor governing and back to where all liberals are happier to have it — that wicked, evil, traitorous, lying, no good, horrible BUSH!

    • Tony

      I can belive that there are more democrats who are constitutional scolars who were taught by marxist professors in our institutions of higher learning.

      • Joe H.

        Amen to that Tony!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      Jill, excellent, well stated, with an understanding of the Constitution and the concept that we can’t try the terrorists in a military tribunal for a reason…that being they are not soldiers. Loved your whole entire post. Thank you.

  • Wanda

    Nancy Pelosi should already be in jail. She doesn’t care about our country or the people in it. All she thinks about is ways can she ruin our lives. She won’t always be the speaker of the house. Then we can start pushing for something to be done about her misdeeds. Shes been an excellent teacher on showing everyone in the U.S exactly how to go about getting this done. We can handle this just like shes handle waterboarding only we won’t have to lie like she did and say we didn’t know what was going on. Were just going to be smart and wait until we know we can win.

  • Geronimo Washington State

    Years ago I was working as security/I.D.checker/bouncer at a bar in Jackson, Wyoming. It was election day and a southern tourist marveled that we kept the bars open on election day. I told him, “Sure. Considering who we have to vote for,you can’t expect the populace to vote stone sober.” I consider myself a liberal in the original sense of the word. I have aligned myself with the Libertarian wing of the Republican party. There are extremists even in the Libertarian party and the only chance a true freedom fighter has of keeping ones personal values alive is to continue the struggle within the framework of a strong political organization. I voted for George W. Bush a couple of times with some trepidation because I considered him to be too much Yaleie and too little Texan. I think that despite some theological differences (I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) I can work with the Christians and as long as we keep a broad enough spectrum within the party, we can incorporate what is good and useful from them and I know that in the majority they are good people. While at a local gun show I told one of the vendors that I supported both the NRA and NORML (the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws) He laughed and said,”Aha-a true libertarian.”

    • JeffH

      I cannot argue with your logic. Simple and concise.

    • Joe H.

      Geronimo,
      I am a christian, but I also keep an open mind as to religion as evidenced by my post to you the other day. I have no axe to grind with the Later Day Saints and never have. We used to have some good friends when I was in college named Lions and Hathcock that used to stop by our apt. al the time for meals, to talk, and even went fishing with them a few times. they were on their “missionary” in the states. I’m not sure what you call it so I call it that. The only religion I have a problem with is Witnesses and scientology. I can’t fathom not using the talents God gave a man to save your child. Transfusions and Dr.s save lives every day!! I’ll call you friend anytime.

  • Steve Walker

    Folks, what we all need to be concerned about, and in my opinion should do something about, is the propensity of the likes of John Boehner,Newt Gingerich and the Republican National Committee all supporting Scozzafava. This kind of backstabbing of our principals need to be addressed at the balot box when these RINO’s decide to try for reelection. We must replace them with true conservatives, instead of those calling themselves conservative. This is the reason we have the problem we have right now. GW Bush and the whole Republican congress the last 8 yrs. sold us all out. IT’S TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE, and we need to do it with citizen representatives, not incumbants.

  • http://yahoo Jill

    Ahem, Robert. Where do you think I am FROM?

    • Robert

      New York City?

      • Robert

        I guess not from one of the 5 boroughs since you haven’t responded. Me, The Bronx. Highbridge neighborhood. A few block from the stadium. So tell me what borough your from and the neighborhood. Did you hang out on the stoop when you were a kid? Did you play skully? If your really from the city, then I’ll appologize for my comments.

        • eyeswideopen

          you should apologize regardless of where she is from…you are pathetic.

          • JeffH

            …and you can acuse others of being pathetic…take a look in the mirror if it isn’t already broken…

          • eyeswideopen

            Jeff, the juvenile, why don’t you just use the I’m rubber and you’re glue mantra? Silly little boy.

    • Eric

      The Democratic Party?

  • http://personalliberty.com Joe in Cal

    I’ve heard it said and have to agree, these modern day extreme left democrats (not all) are the fore runners of anti christ. I pray every lie they tell is revealed. I heard the exchange between Sen Lindsay Graham and the atty gen Eric Holder pretty revealing on what they think in this SCARY administration.

  • ONTIME

    Scruzzauzza is the epitome of a RINO, the very kind of disloyal self styled republican that is a affront to every Real Republican that this party has known and embraces. She is a camels nose under the big tent that Reagan made reference to, she is not fit to be among Real Republicans.

  • Eric

    What I love about this whole Scozzafava conversation is the fact that those who decry the fact that Moderates need to be accepted ignore the fact that the Conservative candidate, without the backing of either of the two political party power houses, garnered 44% of the vote, while the Republican got 5% (admittedly, you have to take into account that she dropped from the race) and the Democrat got 49%. If anything, that tells me that Conservative values are alive and well, and the Republican party would be smart to return to its roots, rather than moving to the Left and calling themselves centrists. The Democratic party has not moved to the right, quite the opposite, they have moved even further left, and yet Republicans are the extremists?

  • JeffH

    I agree, the GOP is floundering. The Dems have solidified their position with the Health Care issue and their support of the Obamanation. Niether political party has anything to offer that won’t increase the defeciet or improve this countries financial future. Bipartisenship by the Dems and Obummer has been a crock!
    All we can do is make our voices heard, make the best choices for America’s future and get the thieves out of our government no matter what party they belong to. Vote wisley and don’t get misled by party affiliation. Remember, a politician will tell anyone what they want to hear. Check their background and voting records and make a wise ecision.

    • JeffH

      Just an FYI, by saying that the Dems “have solidified their position”, the meaning is that we know exactly where they stand on the issues. Pelosi and Reid speak for the Democrats.

      • Robert

        Amen. Nicely put.

      • Joe H.

        yeah, but they signed the death warrant on the careers of the ones up for election in 2010 by not voting the wishes of their constituents today!!! Over 65% of the people in those districts are AGAINST the health care bill as it stands. The only thing they could have done to save their positions is to kill it where it stood!!!

        • JeffH

          I don’t think the Dems can save themselves at this point in time. The GOP, at least, acknowledges the people where as the Dems just continue to sell out. Everytime a Dem talks about the negatives about the HCR bill, Reid pulls ‘em aside and gives ‘em a 100mil or so for their district. Just a legal form of bribery. In my books, they could all be on a missing plane, and I would like to lead the search party.

  • http://N/A 2partyfailers

    The constitution is trampled. You all fight about health care what about Auto insurance it is a crime not to have it. How about a drivers license, This was for the enemies of the state. how about the freedom of travel and interstate commerce. If you all Dems and Rep. I am constitution Party. Think you really want the constitution as our law you would be in the constitution Party and not in either of the big parties. I suggest you all listen to Ron Paul Who only ran republican cause he knew most Americans are ignorant or just vote to be on what they think is a winning side. He”s got a good understanding of the truth. Example/ the bill to be voted on to audit the fed is close to passing but both Repubs and dems don’t want it to pass so they can continue to print money and send us to financial ruin. By the way Obahma has tripled the debt in the first 9 months of his presidency but Bush did not help with his war lording oil mongers. I suggest you read and understand the constitution. Nobody really enjoys to say I told you so while they are in slavery.

    • Robert

      Your point is something to think about. No problem here in what you’ve said, I respect your opinion. Watch out for the nut job Deinniso. He’s bound to pop in anytime soon now. Do us all a favor, if he does reply to you, ignore him. Most of us respect the viewpoints of others regardless of whether or not we agree. That is the real America we both know and love.

    • Curtis S

      I want 2 party with you dude. You wanna fix your country? Get Ron Paul nominated. He’s the most honest, straight forward politician I’ve ever seen. No nonsense, no BS. He’s a man that could unite and fix the US. He’s the one the GOP should be looking at in 2012.

      • JeffH

        Curtis S, there is something we can agree upon. Thanks.

      • James

        Curtis S, Amen, Ron Paul’s my hero.

      • eyeswideopen

        Curtis, he was my hero too, I even voted for him twice. But this year he got 75 million in earmarks for his district. That totally is against everything he has ever preached about not growing government. He has become just like the other Repubs and Dems. Funny what wanting to be re-elected will do to a person. DaveH. is always posting links to see how your officials voted and how much money they got is also an indicator of ethics. Hard to believe someone proclaiming they want smaller government while taking 75 million dollars from us taxpayers to give to others. Libertarian party doesn’t have any restrictions to prevent corporations from running it like they are now.

        • American Citizen

          If Mary Landreau votes “yes” for the healthcare bill, she gets 100 million plus for her state. Not an earmark but a bribery.

          • eyeswideopen

            American, you are wrong, she gets 300 million, not 100 million.

    • Joe H.

      2party,
      I didn’t vote repub to be on a “winning side”, I voted repub not to be on a losing side as I am now. I told people what O-man was like before he actually announced and people were just starting to talk about him. I knew later if we didn’t vote for repubs we were in a sense voting for O-man!! That was EXACTLY what happened. The vote was divided so badly that O-man won!!!

      • American Citizen

        You’re right Joe, McCain was the lesser of two evils. Everything I thought about Obama before the election is coming true.

      • eyeswideopen

        Joe H, sorry dude, but Obama won by more than 8 million votes. It was one of the largest victories in presidental elections Independents made the difference.

  • Rod

    Dede is a traitor to her party! Palosi is a traitor to the human race!
    Obama and his CRIMINALS need to be thrown out of office!I will say it again, Obama is NOT a citizen of the United States of America!

    • James

      Rod, I agree, Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya, Africa. He is not “a natural born Citizen…of the United States” as required by Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.

    • Joe H.

      Rod,
      Did you hear that there is a new poster of O-man as the Frankenstein monster going around?
      Makes sense the monster didn’t have a birth certificate either!!!!

  • RayD

    I don’t know much, but what I do know is this country is going down the tubes if we don’t realize three things. 1. We as a nation have turned our back on God and we must realize that and beg for forgiveness 2. We must at all costs back Israel (I am not Jewish). Number 3. Know one can tell me there is but one religion that will kill you if you are not of their faith. That is because (in my opinion) they are the Anti-Christ. Calling me crazy or nuts won’t change a thing.

    • James

      RayD, I was curious about your point 2, why must we support Israel? The Apostle John wrote: “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds” (2 John 9-11).
      If memory serves, John was the apostle Jesus loved.

      • American Citizen

        Jesus always was Jewish and of the Jewish faith. Christians are completed Jews.

      • American Citizen

        Jesus loved all His Apostles, John was the one who called himself, “the Apostle Jesus loved.” They were closer in age so were probably more sympatico, so to speak.

  • Tony

    God also told Abraham, whom you bless I will bless and whom you curse I will curse.

    • Joe H.

      Tony,
      I’d bet you 10.00 to a hole in a donut that Abraham didn’t “bless” modern day Muslims!!!!

      • eyeswideopen

        So, Joe, when are you planning on turning this country into a theocracy? When did you get your degree in theology? You seem to consider yourself the all knowning authority on Christianity. Where did you study?

        • Joe H.

          Eyes sweety,
          Refute my post!!! don’t preach!!!

          • American Citizen

            Joe, eyes has a comprehension problem. Nothing in that post was theological.

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, I’ll bet you the same $10.00 that Abraham didn’t exclude the Muslims. You make an statement about him blessing the “Modern day Muslims” and think you made any sense? Did he just come back and the rest of us don’t know it? Wouldn’t he have had to return in order to make your statement valid? You are in the land of oz and must be smoking something really good.

          • eyeswideopen

            American, sweetie, the defination of theology is: An organized body of opinions concerning God and man’s relationship to God, the study of the nature of God and religious truth. Joe H. is constantly condemning or correcting others on their beliefs or statements concerning God and Christ. I want to know where he gets his authority from. Has he studied and is more learned than the rest of the general public, or does he assume his being born again makes him an expert and gives him the right to pass judgement on other Christians. You made an assumption, which is common on this site, that my question had anything to do with his stupid statement about Abraham not blessing the “Modern Muslims”.

  • Richard McInnis

    If Dede is that liberal she should join the Democrat Party. The GOP needs to get it’s act back together. They have caused as many problems as the Dems. Both are responsible for what this country is going through at this time. The GOP needs to get back to the basic ideology of less government, more people power and honesty. Most of the politicians now are for themselves, not their constituents. My hope is that the people are smart enough to drum these people out of office and bring in some new blood. People that actually believe in the Constitution of the United States and the freedoms we have fought for. The route the current administration and the congress is going is truly a detriment for Our Country.

  • http://carpfishingcarp.com carpfishing

    I must have somehow missed it! Guess I should do some other research before coming to a conclusion.

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