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Paradise Lost: For The Gulf Coast And The United States

June 30, 2010 by  

Paradise Lost: For The Gulf Coast And The United States

“So many and so various laws are giv’n;
So many laws argue so many sins.” –Paradise Lost, John Milton, 1667

In the epic poem Paradise Lost, Adam and Eve have taken the forbidden fruit and God is asking Adam why. As in Genesis, Adam is passing the buck, telling God that this woman whom He made gave him the fruit. Adam asks God how such evil could have ever been expected from one so lovely.

God tells Adam that the mistake is Adam’s not Eve’s; that Adam was to look out for Eve. God points out that just before Eve met the serpent Adam had told her that they should stick together because the Archangel Raphael had warned them of the serpent. Yet Adam let Eve stray away to meet her fate, the consequences of which changed the world.

And in the end God holds Adam accountable for the loss of paradise.

Obama’s Blame Game
Just as Adam did with Eve, President Barack Obama is shifting as much blame as he can onto BP.

According to The Daily Telegraph, BP CEO Tony Hayward’s grilling looked like a kangaroo court. He had to listen to a litany of accusations from United States lawmakers before he was able to say a single word in his own defense: “As far as the members were concerned, he was there to take the blame, whether or not there were mitigating circumstances, or companies other than BP should be sharing culpability. It was as though, in a criminal trial, the victim’s statements were being read out before the verdict had been passed, although that was a foregone conclusion—a resounding ‘guilty.’ A kangaroo court would have offered a fairer hearing.”

What The Daily Telegraph doesn’t understand is that the Congressional inquisition of BP and Big Oil was never intended to be fair. The goal was to keep the elected elites in office and increase their influence.

Just as Adam thought Eve was a perfect foil, so too, does President Obama think that of BP. And he is right. Last week White House spokesman Bill Burton mocked BP’s CEO and all-around English twit Hayward for attending a luxury yacht race on crystal waters while the Gulf of Mexico is turning into the Black Sea.

Burton opined that Hayward should take part in the cleanup operations in the Gulf of Mexico with the $400,000 yacht he co-owns.

"You know, look, if Tony Hayward wants to put a skimmer on that yacht and bring it down to the Gulf, we’d be happy to have his help," Burton said to a chorus of yuck-yucks in the White House briefing room.

It is almost beyond my comprehension that BP could have such bad PR, from Hayward saying he “wants his life back,” to BP Chairman Carl-Henric Svanberg calling the people of the Gulf Coast, “small people.” But it seems the people of the Gulf are small people, not just to BP but to Obama as well.

The same weekend that Hayward was skipping his yacht, Obama was walking the links. Even as tar balls washed up on Destin, Fort Walton and Panama City Beach, Obama was busy hitting golf balls.

Just as Adam was quick to condemn Eve, the Obama White House sees no hypocrisy in pointing out BP’s sins while denying their own.

Caught Between The Devil And The Deep Blue Sea
One estimate reported by CNN says the catastrophe of the Deepwater Horizon platform spill could cost just the Florida Gulf Coast alone 200,000 jobs before it is all over. Yet the cost on all of us is only starting to climb. Seafood is becoming more expensive and oil prices have resumed their climb towards $80 per barrel.

It is important to note that before the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon, the Gulf of Mexico was producing about 1.6 million barrels of oil per day. That is almost a third of domestic production.

If the Obama administration follows through with an overall ban on offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, and further tightens the screws on exploration in Alaska, the consequences of this crisis will have a devastating affect on our oil needs.

Last week a New Orleans Federal judge lifted the six-month moratorium on deepwater drilling imposed by the President, saying: “The court is unable to divine or fathom a relationship between the findings and the immense scope of the moratorium.”

However Interior Secretary Kenneth Salazar responded that he will issue a new order on deepwater offshore oil drilling.

“We see clear evidence every day, as oil spills from BP’s well, of the need for a pause on deepwater drilling,” Salazar said. “Based on this ever-growing evidence, I will issue a new order in the coming days that eliminates any doubt that a moratorium is needed, appropriate, and within our authorities.”

Expect the White House to throw its full weight behind suspension of deep water drilling. And that is bad news for the nation which desperately needs oil from the Gulf of Mexico. Without it we will be left begging OPEC.

Does BO Have A Backdoor Deal With BP?
Meanwhile BP has kicked in $20 billion to pay for their mistake. That led Congressman Joe Barton (R-Texas) to apologize to BP saying that the $20 billion escrow fund was a “shakedown” by the White House.

I think Barton was not only ignorant of the political winds but was dead wrong. I believe that BP and the White House made a deal for the Federal government to funnel that money back to BP in the back door. One of just a handful of ways for this to work would be to give BP sweet deals on future leases.

In the end it will cost the taxpayers more than it will cost BP. Still, Obama probably considers the price tag a bargain if it can turn the nation Green.

“The motivation for allowing the well to blow and prolonging the crisis isn’t merely financial, it’s political too,” writes Prison Planet. “The motto for the people who pull the strings inside the Obama administration, people like Rahm Emanuel and Hillary Clinton is to ‘never let a good crisis go to waste’—and Obama himself has certainly taken that to heart over the course of the last two months.”

Prison Planet speculates that Obama and BP are joined at the hip: “The Obama administration has aggressively exploited the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico to manufacture an artificial urgency in an effort to speed the passage of cap and trade in pursuit of a ‘green economy,’ an agenda firmly supported by the transnational oil corporations Obama is claiming to be reigning in. British Petroleum is one of the founding members of the cap and trade lobby, and has consistently lobbied for greenhouse gas restraints… and subsidies for oil pipelines, solar panels, natural gas and bio-fuels.”

Prison Planet concludes that BP stands to profit to the tune of billions.

Unfortunately what is good for BP is not good for the U.S. Some economic studies have indicated that going Green costs 2.2 jobs for every new job created.

In the Gulf, not only are shores being infected with a killer sludge, but now the Federal government is putting a moratorium on drilling. At stake are hundreds of thousands of jobs for people who have neither the time nor the money to go to yacht races or country clubs. It is their, and even our, paradise lost.

Yours for real wealth and good health,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy and Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • Claire

    I don’t care about this administration and I don’t care about BP. The government and BP is at fault for this disaster. The incompetency both of them have demonstrated in the handling of this tragedy is appalling. Offshore drilling would be great and would certainly benefit the U.S. but why don’t they realize it should be done carefully? Why don’t they realize that safety comes first? Why didn’t they think of the outcome if an accident happened? Why weren’t they prepared? Sure, accidents happen, but when they do most of it is caused by carelessness, faulty equipment, and the constant greed to make a profit. And this is exactly why I do not approve of offshore drilling. Now they have ruined the gulf, the economy, the beaches,the wetlands, and are killing off the marine animals. I hope they are happy with this deplorable situation. Damn right I am an environmentalist, and when we destroy the environment we also destroy the economy in various ways. These people in charge are supposed to be so brilliant–where is their common sense? None of them have displayed any gumption or logic in the prevention of such a major disaster. We will pay for this mistake of theirs for years to come. None of them have any moral character. They will always play politics until the end of time. I am totally fed up with the apparent lack of respect for human life, the earth, and animal life. Shame on them, no, to hell with them.

    • Al Sieber

      I agree with you, it goes a lot deeper then we’ll ever know, we hear rumors it was sabatoge to get us to accept cap and trade and the phony green agenda, or they didn’t put o-rings in the pipe joints, they didn’t use any or not enough drill mud, space aliens did it, the list goes on and on. from what I’ve read it can’t be fixed, the pressure coming out of the pipe is too great (20,000 psi- 70,000 psi) and the depth to the pipe. I read, from the ocean floor bottom the hole is 13,000 deeper, a of total of 3- miles from the surface. the pipe is eroding away from bed rock and fissures are appearing in other areas around the hole. this is killing our oceans, and can kill us in the long run. and Obama just sits on his ass doing nothing. we need to wake up and all together find a solution without the damn govt. they complicate everything.

      • http://NONE COLLEEN

        Seems almost biblical to me, they cannt stop it, the oceans running red?? hmmmm we are living in some scary times people …

        • artinthewild

          That’s right Colleen. Not only that but remember the illuminate – Obama is their boy and they want to destroy America – so far so good. Remember also that Obama is a Muslim and that the Muslims are sneaking in and pushing their religion and sharia law on the U.S (see Dearborn, Michigan) (Boston) This oil spill is part of a diversion to sneak other things through, inc. amnesty for immigrants. Remember that Obama iwas a do nothing snator and now he’s just following orders.

        • Al Sieber

          COLLEEN, I found this in the bible . Revelations: 8:8 and the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea; and the third part of the sea became blood; 8:9 and the 3rd part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life,died; and the 3rd part of the ships were destroyed. yeah! sounds right..

          • Athena

            Yes Colleen, I agree with your quotes from Revelations. You are witnessing the Desolation of the Obamanation….sound familiar.

      • http://NONE COLLEEN

        Tall tale? I beg to differ, anyway

      • JeffH

        Al Sieber, I heard yesterday a “scientific” experts aguement for a small nuclear explosive device be inserted deep in the well and exploded. I’m not talking about a Nagasaki or Horoshima sized bomb, but a small scale nuclear device, that when inserted deep in the well, 18000 feet would seal the well by melting the earth around the well. The explosian most likely would not even register on a Richter scale. There has been extensive testing done and apparently the Soviets have implemented and succeeded with this process. He has been involved with the original tests and is supposedly an oil scientist.

        • WarriorH

          IF congress would just pass “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”, all our problems would be solved. The flamer, Luis Guitierez, was on Van Sustern last night and couldn’t answer the simple question about securing the borders first.

          • JeffH

            ?????

          • WarriorH

            Diversion!

        • Al Sieber

          JeffH, I read that also, the Russians had to do that on a few of their oil wells and it worked, they have drilled some wells over 30,000′ deep and had the same problems. this is sitting on a methane gas bubble 2 miles long by ? wide ? deep, if I find out more details I’ll let you know, I’m a independent geologist, so I get “field updates” in the geology world, boring to most people, but, not me.

          • Al Sieber

            JeffH, sorry, I didn’t notice you said Soviets until I pushed submit. are you aware of what “Abiotic” oil is?

          • JeffH

            Al Sieber, I don’t have a clue…I’m about as unknowledgeable as they come about the technical/geological/scientific side of oil.

        • Al Sieber

          JeffH, Abiotic oil is formed naturally in the earth, it does not come from dinosaurs, in fact oil will only carbon date back as far as 1000,000 years. from my notes, that hole is 30,000′ below the sea bed, and they can’t use a “nuke” because of the New Madras fault that is at the mouth of the Mississippi river, this is a major fault and the “Nuke” can cause the tectonic plates to shift, this is probably more than you care to know.

          • Al Sieber

            I meant 100,000 years.

          • http://PLD Tommy

            carbon dating is unreliable

      • James DelBianco

        I actually have a way to cap the pipe… or at least control the leak. If you can follow this it is very simple indeed. I understand that the depth will make submersible vehicles necessary only at least I have an idea, that is more then I have heard from anyone else.
        A threaded pipe will have to be inserted into the opening.the force of the oil will only be acting upon the small surface area or the difference between tho OD(outside diameter) and the ID(inside diameter) of the pipe. neoprene gaskets can be put into the leaking pipe between the leaking pipe and the threaded (inserted) pipe. The threaded pipe will have a small lip to catch the first neoprene gasket.Next a specially made threaded “ring piece” can be threaded onto the inserted pipe, and threaded all the way down to squeeze the gasket sealing the inside of the leaking pipe with the outside of the inserted threaded pipe. This can be done many times over for as many squeezed gaskets it takes to seal that damned leak. It will certainly take a lot of time. The particulars if you are interested I have worked out. The sealing “ring piece” will have a specially made “sawtooth” shape to allow it to be threaded into the leaking pipe. The matching “sawtooth” shape will be used to screw down the rings with a sort of special ratchet type “ring piece” driver. The problem with this is that it is only one way in and can not be screwed out. If it takes 50 gaskets to seal the pipe, then use 50 gaskets. The threaded pipe will allow oil pressure to escape through the opening in said pipe. That threaded pipe will be fitted with a valve to be left open until the gaskets are in place and squeezed to seal the area between the inside of the leaking pipe and the outside of the threaded inserted pipe. Once enough gaskets are in place to seal the area between the two pipes, the valve can be closed. If the leak does not stop, the whole assembly will probably be blown out of the pipe.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          You come up with a plan like that, which probably would work. What I find astounding, is that we have all these so called great engineers and scientists, and all this technology, and your going to tell me that they cant stop this oil from coming out? Baloney. They dont want to stop it, because it fits into someones political agenda that wants to use this oil spill to further their agenda. Its sad that our leaders sit by and watch this happen. Yes, it is BP’s fault and problem to an extent, but also, when a problem arises that affects so many in this country, shouldnt our government be a part of the solution, instead of being more a part of the problem like they currently are? And shouldnt our government, have made sure safety measures were in place before they started drilling this thing, back in February of 2010? What was the Obama admin doing then, and what are they doing now? It appears to me, dropping the ball is the correct answer.

          • TDMW

            Did you not hear President Obama say that he was assured that all the safety measures were in place before he agreed to allow them to drill off the Gulf Coast? The government are not drilling experts, and the drilling experts were in way over their heads, obviously.

    • Jim S.

      You are absolutely right. The Federal Government shares at least equal blame with BP. When Washington DC creates a regulation or law in the name of Safety or Security it really boils down to a means to limit the personal freedom of the law abiding citizens of this country. If it is not about loss of freedom they are trying to get their hands in the pocket of every honest,responsible,hardworking American. The founding fathers must be spinning in their graves.

    • Hans Brinkhuis

      I agree 100% with that article. I Have one daughter who is a marine biologist she just got her master degree at the university in Fort Lauderdale Fl,and now she is working for Fish and Wild Life tn st:Petersburg Fl:she has to dive and preserve Coral and othe species hope it won’t ruin her research.
      And the Federal Goverment should help and fund the cost of the whole clean up of the oil leak in te gulf of Mexico, they gave the order to BP to start drilling,and the deepwater rig had a freak acident that cst 11 men their lives who knows what realy happen with that explosion
      maybe it was a kind of an earthquake on the bottom of te sea and was created by the drilling what send a spark through the pipes to the rig.And America has to wake up in November 2010 and select a better government man who has more knowledge and expierence to do a better
      job as the Obama administration/ Thank You

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Good post Hans. I agree the Obama admin should be a part of the solution, and instead, they have refused help, and have become a part of the problem. This lack of leadership has reared its ugly head once again.

      • Mitch Beales

        So in addition to bailing out the banks you believe that the federal government should also bail out BP? I figure they have plenty of money to give ridiculous bonuses to their executives if that’s what they choose to do. They don’t need my help!

    • DaveH

      Life is risk, Claire. And for all we know it was no accident. Absolute Power corrupts Absolutely.
      The reason we have the kneejerk Big Government that we now have is because so many people have become risk-averse. But the problem is that all the paperwork compliance in the world doesn’t guarantee that accidents won’t happen. In fact, the perceived safety that Big Government brings (at a very large cost) even makes people more careless thinking that they don’t need to worry about being careful because the Government is protecting them.
      All you have to do for evidence is look at the auto-death statistics. They have remained relatively constant even after years of growing safety requirements. I believe that is because the more protected people feel, the more reckless they become.

      They could lock us all in rubber rooms so we would have no risk at all. We maybe wouldn’t live in longer, but it would sure seem like it.

      • DaveH

        ‘any longer’

        • Claire

          DaveH–I know life is a risk at times. But I cannot condone this oil spill. My beef is that they drilled the rig and didn’t have the wherewithal to take care of any problems. That should have been taken into consideration. An ounce of prevention would have certainly been worth a pound of cure in this fiasco. I am beginning to have doubts–why the big delay? Why didn’t BP have the machinery to plug this leak? Unless it was not an accident?

          • Jana

            Claire,
            And since this is all playing into the hands of Obama to pass the Cap and Tax bill (what I call it), it sure does sound suspicious.

          • Richard Pawley

            The cost of drilling far off the coast and a mile deep is far more expensive than the cost of drilling closer to shore in shallow water. No company spends money it does not have to, so if they were allowed to drill where it is so much cheaper they certainly would have. They drilled in deep water where it is much more expensive (and dangerous) because the EPA made them go there. If we don’t drill for our own oil we will have to buy it at inflated prices from foreigners and the safety rating of the ships that will bring it to us is much worse than that of oil rigs. The problem is we have to decide if we want to have cosmetics, plastics, hoses, tires, synthetic vitamins, as well as heat and gasoline and diesel fuel. All that and more comes from oil. You are right to be upset that the Democrats would not allow ships from other nations who are equipped to capture this oil to do so but again it was because the Dutch ships could only make the oil 99.99 percent oil free and the EPA demanded more (at least that is what was on the TV news last night). I have read that it is the EPA that has kept the most pollution free diesel car on earth out of the United States, the tiny two seater Smart Car diesel that gets 70+ mpg in Canada (it has gotten a 100 mpg in coast to coast tests). The gasoline version is sold in Mexico where it gets 54 mpg whereas they have allowed the gasoline version into this country but only when it was changed to meet our standards where it gets 38 to 41 mpg. Europe is supposed to have higher standards but they can drive this cute little (and very economical) car but not us. We do need sensible laws on major pollution. Thank God for Rachael Carson but we need common sense laws and not insane costly unrealistic ones. Why are our citizens allowed to buy milk and cheese and ice cream made from milk that contains artificial bovine hormones, illegal in every other major nation on earth but good enough for us. Canada even outlawed them because of what they do to the cattle. Isn’t our food part of the environment. Every nation in Europe must inform their citizens when they are eating genetically modified franken-foods but not here. Isn’t the 80% of GMO’s in our food supply a kind of pollution, eating things that nature never created? I don’t eat High Fructose Corn Syrup or worse yet crystalline fructose both of which do not occur naturally, and it is hard to avoid HFCS because it is in 90 percent of processed foods, medicines, jams, many breads, all major sodas, and more things than I have space to write here. I don’t eat beet sugar for the same reason, it’s no longer natural. I pay more to buy organic but the Democrats and some Republicans now want to make even growing your own food something that will come under government control and regulation and their favorite local Marxist in Venezuela has just taken over the food supply and it is rotting in government warehouses while people go hungry. Long live Progressive-Socialism (tongue in cheek) BUT NOT HERE! Congress is totally out of control. They all must be replaced. Even Bill Clinton has said what I said he would have said if he were president, take all the help you can get and seal the leak, and finally after 70 days Obama has decided to accept the foreign help we so desperately need, no matter what the EPA and the unions say. (Now I am not opposed to taking care of the environment but government bureaucrats cannot do that any better than they can do anything else. This is why we have people like Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First saying things like. “My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with its full complement of species, returning throughout the world.” The Iranians would love him). The point is that if you want change we have one last chance and that is not with just Republicans but with Tea Party Conservatives regardless of what label they are. Even Obama has said we cannot go backwards to the failed policies of the past, and I would add to the failed policies of the Marxists that he and the Progressive Democrats in Congress and even a few Republicans seem to like. We cannot wait until 2012 either or it will be much to late. It is NOVEMBER OR NEVER! That’s just the way it is as all will see next year, one way or another.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            In response to a point by Richard Pawley, the Obama admin wouldnt let other countries help, because of the democrats being in bed with the unions, they have it set up that even though they dont have the proper stuff to skim the oil out of the water, the unions were given the work, which amounts to giving them one large amount of money to basically watch the oil flow, because they cant skim it out like the countries that offered help.

    • http://Yahoo.com Sue C

      Claire, I am so sorry to disappoint you. Neither President Obama, nor BP are to be blamed for this disaster. It’s our sins that are bearing fruits, beyond our imagination.

      Technically: BP has oil rigs all over the globe, so why it is, that only the one that is located in the Gulf of Mexico has this huge impact on us. You know Claire, if the Texan Billionaire who actually did the blast can be caught, and all his helpers who actually set-up the blast, it would be a really wonderful thing.

      Right now: everyone who does not like Obama, gives him a STRAINER TO FETCH WATER. (My Grandmother told me, since I was a child, to be on the watch for “Those who do not like you, will give you a BASKET/STRAINER TO FETCH WATER).” If we can get rid of Chronic Bigotry, which keeps us poor, we will be a very prosperous, and successful people. The sad thing is, we will rather release the poison of BIGOTRY, and get nothing for it, but a momentary foolish satisfaction, and lose whatever BLESSINGS should have been coming to us. It is time for us all to wake-up, throw the TRASH out, and start living like people, then we will all escape the judgements that we are now bombarded with.

      Stop blaming President Obama, and BP. They don’t carry out judgements! It is God who sees what we do, in secret, who rewards us in the broad daylight for all to see. Check the story of King David, in the Scripture. He had a fling with Bathsheba, and he did not escape the judgements, upon his kingdom, in BROAD DAYLIGHT! If Kings, do not escape the judgements that are written, what makes us think that we will. WE ARE A VERY SINFUL PEOPLE, AND GOD WILL JUDGE US, so STOP THE BLAME GAME. WE ARE ALL TO BE BLAMED. OUR FILTHINESS HAS BECOME A HORRIBLE STENCH IN GOD’S NOSTRILS.

      However, take courage. We are not the only stinking sinners. The whole world are also on the same path. I am sure that makes someone feel good. I wish we will become a smart people, who fear God’s Wrath, and start pursuing ways, and means to dig ourselves out of our self created HELL! Thanks.

      • Claire

        Sue C–Sorry to disappoint you, I stick to my comments. You have a right to your opinion and I have a right to mine. Nothing you can say will change my mind. They are all at fault. Although I do not have to explain myself to you or anyone else, I want you to know that I do I believe in God, but I want to tell you something–God helps those that helps themselves. Yes, we are all sinners, but we have choices. We can be truthful, do what is right, and conduct ourselves accordingly, or we can follow the path of deceit. I am a person that believes the government and BP follows a path of deceit. All in the name of GREED. One of the Ten Commandments is “Thou shalt not lie.” I don’t think God approves of lying and deceit, do you? Go ahead and try to protect BP and the government. That is your choice, not mine. I believe in the truth, and if you do not approve of my comments, don’t read them, and I certainly will not read yours.

        • libertytrain

          Claire – I do so like the way you express yourself – excellent words -

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I think your all wrong. Im a Christian, and I dont believe for a minute that God made this happen to punish us, or that he made 9-11 to punish us. When He has had enough of us, He will deliver this country into the hands of its enemy, and probably a lesser nation, as He did with the Greek, Roman and Medo-Persian empires before us. The farther we move away from God, the closer to the end for the United States comes, and that is a fact. But God isnt going to piddle around with bringing down a couple of buildings and spilling some oil. Think about it. Dont put Him in a box. I think He is a little bigger than that, dont you?

        • Jana

          Bb,
          I agree with you on this. I think we have become a nation that has pulled away from the Lord and He is in the process of removing His hand of protection off of us.
          We have voted in to the White House someone that has brought dishonor to us and to God. He has refused to honor the National Day of Prayer, yet he invited an Imam and Islamics (Muslims) to come onto the White House Grounds and do their praying to their false god. We have seen the results of this type of activity over and over in the Old Testament. I will say, it did not start when Obama became President, it started with a people so gullible that says we don’t believe there is a God, that voted someone like Obama in as President.
          The Christians of this country have been so brainwahsed that we are supposed to turn the other cheek without knowing what that really meant, that we have let those that do not know the One True God, push us around and take our rights away from us so that we are no longer allowed to pray in public or even say the Pledge of Allegiance in school. It is time for those of us who know the Truth to stand up and take back our rights, as well as this country.
          NOT RASCIST, NOT VIOLENT, JUST NO LONGER SILENT!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            They took God out of the schools, and look at the shape of them since then. Straight down hill. They took God out of government, and its gone straight down hill. We are becoming a God-less society, and it is going straight down hill, where people are accepting as normal hedonistic perverted sexual activity between those of the same sex, and think it’s ok. They think of it ok to rip unborn children out of their mothers womb, and our own government subsidizes it. I assure you all, no matter how wise you think yourselves to be, or how much advance you think your dirty little special interest group causes have made, that God is not too happy about this stuff, and while He tolerates it for now, there is coming a time, when a lot of people are going to have to answer a lot of actions that they did over the years, and woe to those people when that day comes. As it is written, it would be better for them, that they were not even born. So enjoy your sexual perversions for now, and enjoy your murder’s to cover up not being able to control your sexual behaviors, and keep thinking of yourselves to be in power and all wise, because there is an awakening coming soon to all of us, each and everyone of us.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Yes it is a shame it happened. Yes BP is at fault. Yes the government is at fault for not making sure everything was done safely when drilling began in February 2010, over a year into the Obama admin. But the blame you didnt place, was on those that forced this offshore drilling to be done offshore in the first place, and in 5000 feet of water. The left wing liberal greenie eco’s, in concert with the left wing liberal democratic party, wouldnt allow the safe onshore drilling, or to easy to fix shallow water drilling. No, they sent them out in 5000 feet of water, and now look what weve got. The green eco’s bear a great guilt in this whole thing. We should have been drilling in ANWR and other places, but they stopped it all. They too, bear the burden of guilt in this. By the way, I always thought drilling in deep water was dangerous, and now its proven to be true.

      • Claire

        Beberoni–This rig was built in 2001. The Republicans and the Democrats contributed towards this mess. Neither party did what they should have done. They backslided on the oil companies and the illegals. All in the name of greed.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          And it was a safe rig, and used before safely, because the so called safety steps were checked out and working in its previous use. Something happened though, when in Feb. 2010 when the drilling commenced at this site, that nobody bothered, either from BP or from the Obama administration, whomever it is that they are supposed to have check this stuff out, the EPA or whomever, but they didnt do their job. Someone was asleep at the switch, and Im sick of reading people write that its Bush/Cheney’s fault, when they had been gone for over a year when it happened. The current admin, is responsible for making sure wells that are drilled like this, are done correctly, and that didnt happen. I know accidents happen, but things like this shouldnt, especially when theyve been done thousands of times before. Something is rotten in Denmark here, and something dirty went down, and the fact is no safeguards were check when drilling here. Thats all I was saying.

          • http://none constance drummand

            I totally agree with you also
            cdrummand

    • Gary

      Clair
      Just finished a statistics class and even if it was carelessness
      on BP’s part, the opportunities per million equation suggests other
      out of control factors. Did you see the bit about John Kerry and
      other Democrats as well as Goldman Sachs short selling BP stock
      two business days before the explosion?
      Toward the end of March, Obama states that he wants to shut down
      all offshore drilling, a week later he announces that he will allow
      offshore drilling. He also compared it to 9/11. First, he denies
      9/11 was an act of terrorism and suggested it was an inside job.
      Ok, So if he’s trying to relate this to 9/11 the only thing in
      common with this and 9/11 that would be fitting with his belief of
      9/11 then this would also be an inside job!
      Next (back to the statistics stuff) what is the probaility of this
      happening the day before “Earth Day”? Why didn’t this happen any
      other “Earth Day”?
      And finally what would you want to do with any incriminating evidence?
      Destroy the evidence course! and within (I believe) it was less than
      36 hours the rig sunk! a mile deep, with oil, saltwater, and various
      micro-organism eating away the evidence through various chemical and
      biological reactions. How convenient! Is retrieving evidence any
      priority right now? No! Stopping the leak is! So in the meantime
      the evidence has more opportunity to decompose. Ever notice that
      no formal sceintific evidence based investigation has been started
      yet? Nor will there ever be. A really (in)-convenient truth?

      • Claire

        Gary–With this current administration and BP nothing surprises me. I have not trusted any of them for a long time. If it was indeed a act of terrorism on behalf of our government, or anyone other country or organization, this would not be surprising. And you are right, we will never know the truth, it would be very difficult to find any evidence, and besides, they all cover up for each other. I am truly worried they will not stop this leak. So much damage has already been done, and there is more to come.

    • ashforkdan

      There are four fail safes on the rig and the odds of all of them failing is astronomical if the proof comes out that haliburtons helecopter was on the rig twenty minutes before the explosion with there crew of blackwater leaving the rig ten minutes before it blew maybe the reason would be about patten rights on the largest vein that extends to venesuala that might never come out in our life time but who knows

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Here we go, lets blame Halliburton. Yeah, they wanted to lose a crap load of money by having this thing blow up. I guarantee you BP and Halliburton, neither one, wanted this thing to blow up. They both lose in that event. But someone had something to gain, didnt they? Like Obama pushing his cap and trade? Maybe, just maybe. Like Al Gore and his greenies? It furthers their agenda doesnt it? Im just saying.

    • ChimpImp

      Claire,

      There was no oversight. This was done on purpose to speed the passing of Cap & Trade and raise the price of oil. This will destroy millions of more jobs. We are already in a severe recession. This will only make things worse. Your assumption that this was an accident is fallacious. It was no accident.

      Offshore drilling would reduce the price of oil. Oil companies don’t want that. They want perpetual shortages and inflated prices.

      • Jana

        chimplmp,
        All falling perfectly in place just for Obama. I just do not trust that man, nor the people he has surrounding him. Chicago style politics = Chicago thugs = dishonesty = anything that is in it for them. The= is an equal sign here.

    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      I agree Claire. Most accidents are caused by carelessness, poor maintenance, or putting off taking care of a small problem before it becomes a big problem.

    • Ernest Caldwell Ltc( ret) Engr

      To many Greedy People they have destroyed Florida and are working on the rest of the world. And the wildlife suffers. Good Comment!

    • http://none constance drummand

      I totally agree with you.

    • Mona

      I certainly agree with you Claire. I feel that they have purposely waited about doing anything so it will get bad enough that Obama will have an excuse to do what he wants. People that are greedy and want power will do anything to get what they want. It is too bad that some people are so ignorant and naive that they can’t see this. It is people like this that are helping to destroy our great country.

  • Sadie Palein

    First of all, the bible was a tall tale.

    Louisiana should be sued for partaking in the riches and not the safeguards. Florida should sue them for the disaster.

    BP was doing their JOB.

    • Historicist

      Your first statement destroyed any credibility you might have actually garnered from your post. You are clearly a Godless leftist that is determined to destroy this country. The rest of your post is so whacked out that it merely confirms what a loser you are. You and your obungler need to leave this country. Never send a BOY to do a MAN’S job.

      • 45caliber

        You are quite correct.

        • John

          Agreed Sadie has no credability.

    • Robin, Arcadia, IN

      Sadie Palein… Wow! Sweetie… You are on a conservative website. Making comments that the Bible is a fairy tale will not win you any points here. Have you ever read the Bible? Perhaps you should read Revelation. It’s very revealing and foretells our future. God is still on the throne and still in control, whether you choose to believe or not.

      • http://NONE COLLEEN

        Amen Robin

      • Marc

        If we are getting to the ‘end times’, it’s a good thing, right ? The Rapture will take up all the good ones, correct ?

        • Richard Pawley

          This is a theory based on a number of scriptures and while it is not impossible it is dangerous to sit around hoping for what may or may not happen (and we certainly don’t know when) when we can be informing ourselves of what is going on around us and what will happen if we don’t vote wisely in November. The monies already spent by the Marxist 111th Congress are already going to cost us dearly, with prices at least tripling once the deflation ends. That too, is something we can’t predict when and with a thousand houses a day going into foreclosure it may be a while yet. Although believers in the Bible are not supposed to be “of this world” they still have to live “in this world” and hence they need to be informed, and they need to seek truth and not rhetoric, and they need to vote in a country where that is allowed. I am personally convinced that the election in November 2010 will be the most important one of our lives. If we wait until 2012 which is also important, it will be to late! It is NOVEMBER OR NEVER.

    • Buster

      You are 100% right. The bible is a work of fiction, and these conservatives would rather believe a book written 2000 years ago by near ignorant savages than the discoveries of modern science.

      • marvin

        [Offensive post removed]

      • American

        Do any of you atheists ever wonder why modern day scientists are making new discoveries consistently that agree with and support the teachings of the Bible? Even the History Channel, known for their Godless and liberal leanings, is airing shows that prove the connections. They are reporting the facts of their findings and relating them to the corresponding verses found in the Bible. Are you so smart that you know all the answers and believe that scientists who spend their lives studying these things are simply wrong? Or that Christianity has been alive and well for thousands of years but the billions of people who believe(d) in God all this time have been wrong and up until now no one was enlightened to the truth as you are? I pray for you all and feel sad that your short life here on earth precludes the eternity you will spend burning in hell because your arrogance prevents you from admitting that there is One greater than yourself. And I’m not talking about obama. It’s a tragedy that, because of your refusal to let God into your heart, you won’t spend that time in the glorious presence of our Maker.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          If science spent a tenth of what it spends on trying to prove evolution, and spent it on proving creation, they would have it allready. There are places in Iran and Syria and other Muslim strongholds, that are fenced around and contain key archeological finds, that they are afraid to destroy, but do not want the world to see, and science goes no where near it. But they still try to screw together false things and try to tell me that a bird crapped on a rock, the sun fermented it, and man stood up and walked. Or that some fish thought “Hey, it looks good up there”, so they grew lungs and started walking and left the water. Yet other fish decided they liked being a fish and stayed there, unchanged to this day from prehistoric times. Unbelievable. They have for years put atheists on the History Channel, and present them as “Biblical Scholars”, and then they prostitute the Bible and out and out lie about what it says, twisting it and turning it to where it is a farse and out and out lies. Science can do some good things, but they also are responsible for some very damning things. I am amazed how so many of them, who are supposed to be so smart, are so stupid that God is right in front of them and everywhere, and yet they play act like He doesnt exist, because they think so high of themselves, that they can explain things, and not even take Him into account. Many of them, are just sad little men, and thats too bad. Just like many of us in life, they spend much to much of their energy in the wrong direction.

      • John

        It’s no wonder this country is so screwed up. Mindless idiots like the comments by these left wing idiots is testimony to their ignorance.
        Thank God they’re the minority.

      • http://NONE COLLEEN

        BELIEVEING IS SEEING MY FRIEND

        • Richard Pawley

          There is some truth to this. People who claim to believe in the Bible need to be living it, in other words living lives such that others know there is something different about us. Sadly those who are convinced that they are God or that they can be God or that their party is Godlike often miss this. I’m reminded of a teenager in the old Soviet Union who was arrested and hauled away because he was a Christian. “What a waste,” said his teacher, “and he had the highest grades in the class”. It never occurred to the teacher that the fact that he was a Christian undoubtedly contributed to his being the smartest student in her class. Christianity, as I more or less pointed out below, is about accepting God’s love for us and accountability. It is not difficult as some make it out to be. The trouble is that some would prefer to make themselves out to be God and that job is already taken.

          • Jana

            Very good post Richard. Thanks

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I am a Christian, and I am a sinner. Im a fallen man. But I know there is a God, and I know that Jesus Christ came and died on the cross for me, and rose 3 days later. I know it because he showed me and instilled the truth in me when I called out for Him to come into my life. Without Him, I am nothing. I am just a vapor. I will let my fellow man down. I will say things I shouldnt, and I will lose my temper time to time. But I do know from whom my blessings flow. I do know who to turn to for forgiveness, to lift me up out of the mire of this world. Anyone who tells you they are a Christian, and presents themselves as perfect and without sin, well they are lying to you, and most likely are something else. I try my best to help others, and to be giving and caring, but sometimes my human flesh gets in the way and I get selfish. We all do it. Its just that as time passes, I do it less and less, as I am aware of God’s presence in my life, and Im getting better all the time. It is a constant process. So you in the darkness, without God, dont count someone out when they fall, or say they are not a Christian because they sin. You do it. I do it. We all do it. We may not want to, but we do. That is the whole reason Jesus Christ came here for us, because we cant do it by ourselves. We need Him to cleanse us and forgive us. Once you realize that, life gets a lot better.

      • animal

        thats funny i have a dog named “BUSTER” and he is smarter than you,

      • vicki

        Would that list of discoveries include an understanding of what happened when God said “Let there be light….”?

        Remember that the Big Bang Theory is still a Theory.

        • Buster

          A scientific theory is an explanation of a set of related observations or events based upon proven hypotheses and verified multiple times by detached groups of researchers. Darwin’s Theory of Evolution is proven to be true every day when monkeys like you post this god drivel.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Sure pal. Like the scopes monkey trials, where the evolutions were supposedly proving evolution, and got caught fashioning cow bones into bones in human skeletons trying to show the change from walking on all four’s to walking erect. Dont you seriously think, that will all the science in the world, all the technology, and all the billions of dollars science has poured into trying to prove evolution, that if it was true, they would have done it by now? Come on man, get real. You may have been a monkey or fish once, maybe you still are, but not me. I was created in God’s own image. Male and Female he created us. He gave man all authority over the beasts of the field, sea, and air. Do you see the difference there? Man was given authority over all these. He didnt derive from them. He was made to rule over them and have dominion over them. And we do. Do you know what the rainbow is a symbol of? If not, do yourself a favor and start reading your Bible. Pray for wisdom before you do, and you will soon understand.

          • Vicki

            A Scientific theory is still just a theory. A theory is as described the currently best explanation for a set of proven hypotheses. If the Big Bang Theory were a scientific law we would not have built the LHC to investigate more of the hypotheses.

          • Ono Nadagin

            Buster go back to school

            A theory is a theory until it is proven, and then it is a proof

            Yes it is true species evolve… but until the missing link is found Darwins theory man evolved from apes is is still just a theory.

            The Human genome shares a staggering similarity with many species not just the great apes.

            And as I Christian I believe that when God created the Heavens and the Earth in 6 days… but Gods days were not 24hrs they were million-billions of our years…. lost is translation is that the word used in the old testimant that was tranlated into English as ‘day’ was the Hebrew word ‘yome’. Yome can also be translated into ‘era’ And Era’s can be hundreds of millions of years or longer by definition… Era is a vast period of time.

    • JeffH

      Sadie Palein is just another liberal troll earning a living, maybe Am Lib changeing the name…

    • Dan Burke

      Interesting. Make Louisiana pay for allowing them to drill. Well, I read that Louisiana actually approved the drilling for much shallower (and possibly easier to fix a problem) waters but it was the federal government that stepped in and said that it needed to be further out (for environmental concerns of course). So who do you blame then? Louisiana for allowing them to drill or our current government (supposedly get pushed to drill deeper happened after Obama became president). Of course, you would probably blame Bush and deregulation. Which is ironic. See, deregulation means that they would drill in the shallower water despite those environmental concerns. More regulation makes those environmental concerns a greater factor and thus is completely fitting with the opposite of deregulation (or your much worshiped Obama regime), so it makes more sense that they were pushed deeper by regulation instead of deregulation….

      • Jana

        Dan,
        Many from Lousianna went out to help do some clean up on the water and the Coast Guard sent them home. They were not allowed to even volunteer. What a shame, and poor miss Sadie wants to sue them?

        • Claire

          Jana–talk about twisted.

          • Claire

            Jana–I meant Sadie. It is almost mindboggling.

          • Jana

            Thanks Claire, but I understood what you were saying.

      • James DelBianco

        Dan, The train has been running deregulation bound for forty years… now you say it happened after O-man came into the presidency, because of regulation. Now that is funny. Sad, though humorous, in an ironic sort of way. See how oil was traded as a stock (futures) and it still is today! Do you remember who lobbied for this to come about… Enron. Now that they are gone, and the regulators are deregulated, wait and see what happens when the stock market goes back up (if it ever really recovers) because the price of the “precious” fuel will go up along with it… probably well past the $4.25 per gallon mark it was at. Seems like you are for deregulation. Feudalism, here we come. Very soon indeed.

    • Richard Pawley

      Sadie,
      The Bible is the distilled wisdom of God intended to help us live on this earth. “Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth” as the punsters call it. You may not like what is said there if you are choosing to go another route, but the basic truth of the Bible is that God loves us and that we are accountable. What’s so terrible about that? Everything else seems to be a derivative of those two basic facts. Of course there are a lot of things on the surface that seem difficult to understand unless you really dig into them but you don’t have to be concerned with them if you KNOW God loves you and that you can’t do it all alone. By the way you were never meant to do it alone. That’s why God promised and then sent the Messiah, the one who would teach us what counted and what doesn’t (the classic paperback GOD CALLING has over 360 addition things that Jesus taught to a woman in England over 75 years ago and many have found it very helpful as to what counts and what doesn’t). I like the saying some Christians have, “None of us have it all together, but together we have it all”. What’s more nothing mentioned in it’s proper context in the Bible has ever been proven wrong or incorrect. On top of that, in this, the most skeptical and hedonistic generation that has yet lived (ancient pagans would blush at some of what transpires today) the Father of us all, has allowed brilliant scientists to uncover an amazing code, hidden in the Bible, and detectable only by computer (for these days when mankind so desperately needs it). It’s not designed for those who have the gift of faith, but who those who do not and who are truly seeking. One seldom finds what one is not seeking. Ever heard of the Isaac Newton Bible Code Research Society? Their volunteers have uncovered amazing things hidden for millennia by using statistical analysis and the Bible Code software. Of course it isn’t necessary to believe that but I have found it helpful. Now make sure you are reading a good translation of the Bible and not being “guided” by one of America’s 3,000 religious cults into what it means. Millions of Americans are in such ‘churches’ or groups that twist and change things from what they are (even Satan quoted scripture to Jesus) and not much has changed in thousands of years. The Bible Code is not about the Bible per se and there are literalists, both Christian and Jewish who don’t like it or believe it, but that’s OK. In addition to GOD CALLING I have found the short 106 page PRISON TO PRAISE to be very helpful as well as a great adventure story. It’s a true story and not just a man’s book. I even knew one of the women mentioned in the book (at least we corresponded for a while in the days before the Internet was invented). These two books are not promoting religion or church or denomination but truth and understanding. Both books are available from places like eBay and in many stores and have sold dozens of millions of copies. If you are interested in growing as a person I would highly recommend these two books, written a generation apart, even over my own two books. I have found that the Bible is trustworthy although some promoting it are not or are, shall we say, are misinformed. By the way there is nothing you can do to make God love you more than He already does. Nothing! All you can do is draw closer to Him and He will draw closer to you and you will discover you are loved. The two books I mentioned are not for everyone but I think you would find them helpful. May God bless you…RP

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You’ll get your chance to tell that to Jesus Christ when you bow down before Him on judgement day. But I for one, hope you change before that happens, and I will pray for you. I assure you it is no fairy tale, as He lives inside of me and has changed my life drastically. You know He is there, your afraid, thats all.

    • coal miner

      Sadie Palein,

      You are right.The bible is more than a tall tale,its a fraud based on myths stolen from pagan sources.Check it out on the internet.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        It is the Word of God, breathed by the Holy Spirit to men. One day you will get to meet Jesus face to face, and you can tell Him how you feel about this “myth”. By the way, good luck with that.

    • Claire

      Sadie Palein–Oh, they did their job alright. BP and the government were too slow on the uptake. Neither of them had the common sense or equipment to deal with this disaster. And turning away help? Give me a break. After all, BP and the government ONLY ruined the economy, the land, and look at all the marine they are killing. You’ll think differently when you have to start paying more for your food, gas for your car, and probably higher taxes. The Americans will get stuck with the aftermath of this mess. Go ahead and praise BP and the government. Get you head out of the clouds and face reality.

      • Claire

        your head

  • Junior

    “Some economic studies have indicated that going Green costs 2.2 jobs for every new job created.”

    Just the other day GE said that going green was creating jobs.

    I suppose the jobs lost are the environmental cleanup, regulatory and the armed forces jobs related to securing that oil.

    • 45caliber

      They are creating jobs! They just don’t say where or what the jobs are. And the fact that they are killing more jobs is immaterial. After all, they created a lot of jobs taking the census. They are creating a lot of jobs in the Welfare and unemployment office. I’m sure there are more examples of jobs they have created.

      Incidently, on average, the US creates about 300,000 new jobs a year – without cutting jobs. I have failed to see it last year.

    • DaveH

      When the Government creates jobs, they usually are on the order of make-work jobs which produce products or services that are not generally in demand by the public. In the private sector if your goods or services are not desirable, people won’t pay for them and you go out of business. In the public sector if their goods or services are not desirable, they just raise taxes and keep on producing those undesirable goods and services.

      • 45caliber

        The government doesn’t produce goods – and their services aren’t that great. The ONLY government agency that has been worth the money spent on it is NASA – because of the inventions they have turned out such as the EKG.

        • DaveH

          Those aren’t goods?

          • 45caliber

            They don’t produce the EKG’s – they simply designed them. So it isn’t truly goods. It is the research. As I said, only NASA has anything of value. Most services are overstaffed and under worked.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Just like Obama is creating jobs. Enlarging government and creating more government jobs that you and I get to pay for, while jobs in the public sector are continuing to be lost. The guy doesnt care though. He just doesnt care. It doesnt fit his agenda, so he doesnt care. He could care less if the oil stops, because it doesnt fit into his agenda to stop it. He is the worst president ever, as witnessed by his anti-American behavior that continues to raise its ugly head, which makes him far worse than Carter.

    • Doug

      I would not be listening to what GE has to say! In the year 2012 when their debt is due and they don’t have the Fed. govt giving them low cost loans they will be bankrupt look at the debt they have on their books they are just like the Fed. Govt. to much debt that they can never pay back!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        But the Government if run by the democrats, will give them a bailout, like GM and Chrysler, that way they can buy more future union votes. Thats what they did, and they will do it again.

  • FreedomFighter

    It is BP’s fault.

    This does not relieve ObamaDaCommi Barry the puppet for being so incompetent, shutting down drilling to cripple production and playing Nero with the fiddle while it all goes down…sir paul you listening bro…

    FF

  • Mike

    Government regulation is more at fault than BP. If the idiot green movement ant they were not in bed together then drilling could be done in places that repairs could be done if a disaster happened. You cannot depend on robots to repair somethng a mile deep in the water. This is Omamas plan to get the Cap and Tax passed, what a perfect situation for him, and a horrille one for us. If He had allowed international help, the oil may never have soiled the beaches, but he had to let the beaches get soiled before the people get pissed enough to fall for this crap. Yeah, Obama can play golf, but others are not allowed anything. The Obama way, make everyone else look bad and the heat goes off of him.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You are correct. It fits his agenda to let it flow and screw up a lot of stuff, that is why he isnt helping at all, and that is why he is a big part of the problem, and refuses to be a part of the solution. What a shameful stance for him to take. Is it 2012 yet? I cant wait until he is gone.

    • Richard Pawley

      So why doesn’t President Obama accept the much needed help which we still need when the largest ship in the world for this purpose lies waiting in Virginia, a ship which can clean up as much oil in two days as all our little boats have cleaned up in over two months? Because the union bosses won’t allow it, or so it seems (not the hard working union workers but the bosses who revel in the power and control they have. Even Obama is not free to do what is best for the citizens of the US but must do what he is told, just like most in Congress). It is after all those in Congress who go along with all this and who are ultimately to blame. It is Congress who gave the environmentalists so much power that they can reign as false gods over us and do the stupid things they do. Taking care of the environment is important but those who would welcome even a nuclear war for the sake of the environment are insane. This is just my opinion of course. (“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” — Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme or how about Ted Turner who said,“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” — Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor, or maybe “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis.” — David Rockefeller, Club of Rome executive manager. I mentioned the Club of Rome in “THE LAST DAYS OF THE LATE GREAT UNITED STATES” as they first predicted the 21st Century world wide famine in the early to mid-1970′s). Of course we need some control on those who would pollute the environment and rape the earth but we also need, oil, gas, copper, etc. Both parties have been responsible for the mess we are in and the only way we can change this is to change the make up of the 111th Congress in four months. THEY MUST BE REPLACED! We must stop the insane spending and we must reduce taxes or we can just vacation until the USA collapses along with the rest of the world. All the messages written here may make one feel good but it we don’t elect Tea Party Conservatives, Democrat, Republican, Independent or Libertarian, those who believe in the Constitution, the founding fathers, and pay-as-you-go government, then we are headed for the last days of our great country and how we “feel” won’t make any difference. How many who write here are going to Washington at the end of August to protest the take-over of the United States by the communists, socialists, Marxists, and others in Washington? How many are going to vote in November for those who don’t have disdain for the stupid ‘little people’ who vote for them. Someone has said that one of the problems with the US is that we have never lost a war on our own soil, or even fought one, since the War Between the States. Others are convinced that the US is going to break up into several countries after Congress destroys the value of the dollar by their insane spending and new taxes. I don’t know all of what is going to happen and no one does, but some things can be projected. If you earn $38,000 a year but owe $800,000 on 42 credit cards it doesn’t take a genius to predict where you are headed economically. The deficit that Congress has agreed upon this past year and for which Obama gets blamed is something like 1.6 Trillion dollars. If we intended to pay it off in any way but inflating the dollar, well it’s impossible. The deficit FOR JUST THIS YEAR would take three thousand years to pay off at the rate of one million dollars per day! Three thousand years! We have deflation now and will have it for a while longer but when it ends we are going to have prices tripling IF WE CAN REPLACE THE BIG SPENDERS IN BOTH PARTIES in four months. If it’s business as usual and Americans agree to all the new taxes that are coming then I can assure you that the future is going to be bleaker than I would even dare tell you although I touched upon it in my latest book. Pass this on to your friends, your associates, all you know. Really hard times are coming but it is NOVEMBER OR NEVER on whether we are just going to be have a tripling of prices and a doubling of taxes or complete chaos and shortages for years. I’d rather see us go down with a bang than a whimper, but the choice is up to the voters in four months. IT’S NOVEMBER OR NEVER! May God bless America because no one else is going to do so.

  • Jimmy

    Deregulation runs back to Ronald Reagan.

    Airlines, banks, wall street, environment, getting the government off your back was job one.

    • ladyB12

      Right on Jimmy. Most believe that Ronald Reagan was a saint!
      I lived under his rath in California when he was govenor…He had the gift of talking and that was it. Deregulation has caught up with us, and I don’t think we will ever recover. Big business has run this
      country now for to many years and lining many of congress and senates
      pockets.

      • DaveH

        You two don’t have a clue about “deregulation”. What do you think California is spending all that money on? They aren’t in the trouble they are in now because of deregulation. They are in trouble because the Government is sucking too much money out of the private sector and into the wasteful and inefficient Government sector.
        The Electric fiasco in the early 1990s which got blamed on “deregulation” is an excellant example:
        http://mises.org/freemarket_detail.aspx?control=347

        • JeffH

          DaveH, correct and you can add in the eco/enviro led government regulations the force businesses out of California.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        So why then did we all live in the greatest prosperity of peace time ever because of the things he did? Why was America stronger than it ever was under Ronald Reagan? Why did it take Bill Clinton 6 years to screw up what it took Reagan 8 to accomplish? Your living in some kine of drug induced world, and you need help. Ronald Reagan was the best thing that ever happened to this country, and for you to deny it, shows you to be a fool.

    • CJ

      Yes, thank goodness for the deregulation. Without it, government involvement would have made the cost of energy skyrocket and we wouldn’t be able to afford it. Let the econony decide where prices should be. Government can do nothing but make things worse. The extent of the spill could have been limited more if the government hadn’t been in the way. Out of the ideal of not harming the environment with human hands, we’ve allowed worse distruction to happen “by accident”. Sometimes neither choice is good. We have to be willing to go ahead and do the “better” thing when the “best” isn’t an option. Inaction is the WORST option, in this situation, but that’s what they chose.

    • Linda

      What does it matter whose fault it is at this point? All this time and energy spent by this administration and BP blaming each other, spent in the struggle to posture and look tough could be better spent on fixing the problem. There probably are ulterior motives why Obama has dragged his feet or, what is more likely, he is incompetent and indifferent. The whole disaster has now become a disaster of moral issue and if we the voters don’t stand up and vote out the big players who are driving our country to ruin, we deserve whatever happens to us.

      • TIME

        Linda, Good post.

        Really, we know whos at really at fault with this event, as I have said time after time there are “NO ACCIDENTS.”

        Where in the bloody world are the EXPERTS on shutting down this mess?

        Thats the question of the moment, if there are NONE, then the question is why in the world would anyone drill that deep in the ocean.
        Also please do keep in mind that 500 feet is a lot less than 5000 feet as per what the wack jobs in DC made BP drill.

        Also keep in mind that BarryO hates the British, so what else is there to say but “WHERE ARE THE EXPERTS?”

        • Conservative at Birth

          Exactly, and he hates the Jews as well as the Catholics, Hindus, Buhdists, Baptists, and mainly anyone but Muslims and [offensive word removed].

          • Conservative at Birth

            What offensive word? I would never use any offensive language!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • TIME

            CAB,
            Yes I have been finding that all to be very TRUE.

            And yet Barry Soetoro is giving $5 Billion plus US Tax Payer Dollars to Brazil to drill at nearly two miles deep, oh and that money will go to non other than George Sorus.
            And like he needs more American Tax payers money, How many billions did Barry give him already? I hear its well over 20 Billion.

            ** So can anyone of you great thinkers that feel that Barry Soetoro is such a special guy can you tell all of us why its ok for drilling at near 2 miles deep in Brazil where as in the Gulf of Mexico at 500 feet is tabooooo..

            Oh and why is it Barry Soetoro has such distain for the Britsh company?

            And while your at it please explain why we American Tax Payers need to give MORE MONEY to George Sorus you know the guy who’s NET worth is well over 20 Billion dollars?
            You know the guy who works for the Rothschild family, the one who gave Barry Soetoro over ONE BILLION Dollars to run for US President, the guy who owns Move on dot Org. amoung other sights.
            And while your at it please explain why his finger prints are all over Cap & Trade? Or The American Power Act. And CCX?
            You know that guy who as he said he “Hates the Free market,” and “Americans are the problem with the world”?

            We all – await some form of Briliance so please indulge us.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Thats because Barry and the democrats OWE George Soros, who OWNS them. He bought and paid for them a long time ago, and now its time for them to pay him back, and that is going to bring some really bad stuff to the United States of America. Soros hates America, and when you see the democratic party has gotten in bed with him, what does that tell you about their party? Anti Americans, every stinking one of them. That is why Evan Bayh of Indiana resigned, he couldnt stand being one of them anymore.

      • Dagney

        Finding where fault lies is LEARNING from mistakes. However, using the KISS principle (keep it simple, stupid) I can see that REGULATIONS and a Marxist government are the problem. They were drilling HOW FAR out to sea? And, WHY is that? Oh, yeah, government regulations forced on a free country by MINORITY enviro-communist groups. They can’t “plug the damn hole” WHY? Oh, yeah, only mechanical robots can get to it. Now, the only choice is for the GOVERNMENT to send a submarine down there with a nuke to plug the hole. How SOON do you think THAT will happen??? In the meantime, we have a Marxist president who has PURPOSEFULLY sat back and played golf and went on vacation, while making sure NOONE else was able to do anything to help alleviate the damage to our shores. Using the KISS principle again, WHY? Hmmmmm…..Cap and Tax?? Ya think?

        Seriously, regulations only hurt legitimate business. The only reason regulations become born is because of CRONY capitalists and the communists who fled Europe in the 1980′s (yeah, maybe we can BLAME Reagan for THAT! LOL!) latched onto our Enviromentalist groups. These huge corporations want to eliminate competition. The commies in the enviro groups just want to eliminate our freedoms. So, they lobby government and new regulations are born. DE-REGULATION and Term Limits are the only way to blunt all this corruption.

        If you don’t believe me about the Environmentalist Groups being commies now, why aren’t they screaming bloody murder over the damage to our shores? You know they would be if a non-Marxist was in the White House right now. No, the groups are silent because it’s their political side that is causing the damage. You can hear individual envirnmental people crying over it. Yes, they are not the problem because they are just like the rest of us. They are sad over the damage being done. It’s the big groups giving Obama a huge pass and THANKING him.

        Yes, there’s a reason for everything and it’s usually very SIMPLE and sometimes quite sinister….IF you use your critical thinking.

        • 45caliber

          PLEEEASE don’t nuke that hole! With the pressure of the oil beneith it that is causing so much oil to shoot out, any attempt to bomb the hole closed is FAR MORE LIKELY to simply open it up. You would crack or melt the ground from the explosion.

          Further, creating a billion tons of steam at that depth would cause an even greater explosion when it hit the surface. That would cause a tidal wave that would make Noah afraid. And the Gulf is too small for the tidal wave to be able to disapate before it hit everyone.

          • DaveH

            I agree, 45. Nuking the hole would be a huge gamble with unknown consequences.

          • Jeep

            45cal…buddy, you and I are generally in the same cirlce, but it can be done. A small nuke properly placed will create a glass bubble that has a very good chance of plugging that darned hole, without creating a huge tidal wave. Just be opened minded about this. Of course, this class clown will never let this option be considered, so its probably acedemic anyway.

          • JeffH

            I heard a pretty strong arguement for a small nuclear blast deep(+18,000 ft) that would cause the sealing of the leak by melting the sand and earth around and over the hole. We’re not talking about a blast like Nagasaki or Hiroshima and apparently there has been testing done by US scientists and this method has been done in the Soviet nion in the past.

          • DaveH

            18,000 feet – 3.4 miles, and you think that would be safe? Good luck on that one.

          • JeffH

            …perhaps DaveH, you can give an explanation of why it wouldn’t work. It’s said that the secondary drilling won’t cause the leak to seal…if the idea is feaseable, why would it be so far out there to “not” work?…we could be staring at years of leaking oil, toxic gases and fumes from this blowup…any better ideas, my ears are wide open?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I agree, and think your totally right, but that would just be the sort of thing Obama and his band of demons would do, to cause some more destruction, and then blame Bush for it. Why? Because that is how they roll.

          • DaveH

            And what if it didn’t work, Jeff? What if instead it opened a gaping hole and the oil gushed out?
            Like I said, it would be a huge gamble.

          • Al Sieber

            JeffH, I have a idea how to fix it. if they built a hugh funnel flipped it upside over the hole with a safety valve on it, and pipe it up to the oil tankers.

  • lamar hayes

    The bible is no tall tale….sounds like you need to do some research yourself. As far as the spill, when gross negligence is apparent, reprimands need to be made and penalties imposed. More importantly, corrected procedures put in place to eliminate a future recurrence. What needs to happen now is for everyone to pull together and quit lamblasting. America’s greatness has never come from fingerpointing blamegamers. Its greatness comes from citizens who recognize a mistake has been made and that we need to address it and help achieve a desired end. Our politicians need to be thinking about American security and American needs for future fuel rather than what is politically correct.

    • BigBadJohn

      The bible is no tall tale, it is mankinds “oral history”. Man has been around for 100,000 years but the bible has only been around for 3000 years. Think of Indians sitting around the camp fire telling stories about the past and their great ancestors, that is what the bible is. It was only put down on parchment after man learned to write. Prime example – the story of Noah, it was recorded in Sumeria as the story of Gilgamesh 1000 years before the Hebrews changed the name and wrote it in their bible. Like all stories that are told over and over, it grew and got bigger and grander.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And your totally discarding the original texts they have, and the dead sea scrolls, correct. Your totally disregarding, that when I asked Him into my life, my whole life changed. Your totally disregarding, that some of us have seen, while laying hands on a person and praying in the name of Jesus Christ, watching a once wretched and crooked and crippled arm straighten out and be restored. And you say its a campfire story? What ever dude. Just because you dont know, doesnt mean all of us dont know. And the main reason you dont know, is because us that do know arent doing our jobs and getting the word out to you. But you have heard, and you reject, and that my friend, is the thing you get to explain one day, face to face with the man. Hope your ready when that day comes.

        • BigBadJohn

          The whole basis of religion is FAITH. Those miracles you saw came from faith.

          I am sure the same sort of miracles have been witnessed in all faiths, including Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc, etc.

          I refuse to question yours or anyone’s faith. But yes the Bible’s origin is questionable. The catholic church was the sole proprietor of the bible and edited it heavily to protect their power.

          Even the origin of “ONE GOD” is questionable. The first time the idea of there only being one God was written down, was when the Pharaoh Akenaten proclaimed there was only one god and that he was the son of god. The Hebrews were slaves to Egypt at that time so did Akenaten steal the idea of “one God” from the Hebrews, or did the Hebrews steal it from Akenaten?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            My faith cannot heal someone, either can yours, or anyones. It is the power of Jesus Christ, not mine or any earthly person. The moment someone tells you THEY have the power to do that, you better run from them, because they are not from God if they are claiming the power to be theirs. And no, I do not believe Buddhists, Muslims, or any other so called religion can do these things, as Jesus Christ is the only living God, and the only source of power. Muhammed is dead in his grave. Dont believe me, dig it up and see the bones laying there, right where they were when he died. That gold Buddha can be melted down and made into rings and jewelry. But Jesus grave is empty, as death had no hold over him, as prophesied 2000 years before He came. You all in the dark seem to always forget, that the Old Testament was 2000 years before Jesus, and everything they said was going to happen back then, happened 2000 years later. There is one thing left. The revealing of the lawless one, the Anti-christ. That one is coming. And in case you didnt know, keep an eye on Israel. When you see that Golden domed muslim mosque come down, and the temple being rebuilt there, its real, real close to the end. Everything else it has said has come true to pass, as will this. So you can believe now, or believe later, but you will believe. I guarantee it.

      • 45caliber

        Actually the Sumarian story of Noah was about a guy called UrNash. Gilgamesh met him. Gilgamesh was supposed to be an immortal seeking the fountain of youth or something like that. Incidently, ALL writings of that time were factual. No one is sure if Gilgamesh was factual or was the ONLY fiction written down at that time.

        And before some idiot insists that the Sumarian story “proves” the Bible is wrong, Abraham was a Sumarian before he was called to be a Jew.

  • bobinpa.

    Why was BP MADE to drill in DEEP water? , instead of off the East or West coasts??. Or Anwar?? Why didn’t Obama accept the help offered right after the rig blew??. The Dutch offered help that was refused by this Anti-American Progressive bunch of Commie , Marxist, Bastards in the White House. The TRUTH of the matter is this Kenyan, incompetent, unqualified, Muslim, lying, weasel in the White House is CLULESS as is his whole Marxist/Socialist Administrtion. Everything he says and has said has been a LIE, and Everything he trys and has tried has been a failure. He is a LYING LOSER. JOBS, THE ECONOMY. The WAR, IMMIGRATION, the GULF, ENERGY. You name it, OBAMA is a LYING< LOSER. The only thing you can believe about Obama is "If his lips are moving, He's LYING, and He's trying his damndest to HURT AMERICA. "Wheres the Birth Certificate Kenyan"??

    • Norm

      bobinpa.
      You speak of truth and then you go into this hatred filled, venomous rant which contains nothing of substance. You concoct wild allegations of everything from birth certificates to incompetence in all thing in the history of the world.
      If you have no facts to back your ignorant raving, I suggest you shut your rumormonger mouth.

      • Al Sieber

        Norm, you need to take your own advice boy.

        • TIME

          Al, I second that motion.

          As well I would like to note that Norm has won the coveted “Darwin Award,” so that explains a lot.

          • 45caliber

            Time: You realize for Norm to have won the Darwin award and still be able to post here, that he must have lost a critical part of his body. Still, from his rants, you are probably correct.

          • s c

            TIME, you’re absolutely, 100% right. Norm/Abnormy deserved that special ‘award’ a long time ago. His favorite pal, WTW, is next in line for that dubious award for mentally incompetent, ultraliberal progressives.
            They’ll be praising Chicago’s “Gift” to Politics long after America and the world acknowledge that he’s the WORST prez EVER and a willing tool for ANY rich, puppet master who’s looking for a PUPPET in the White House. Hope and change, my #^^!

          • JeffH

            ..part of a very “elite” group I would gather to say…love it…

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Trolls, they are all part of the troll squad, and Norm is their leader.

      • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

        norm you are tottley wrong there is plunty of proof if crackpots like you wold get your head out of your sandbox obama has done nothing but lie to we the people he lied abought Taxes he lied abought the American people we are a Christien Nation you need to Read the Mayflower papers it is plane and clear tell the lien Muslem to get out of our Christion Nation If you Dont Belive in the true God then Go Find your Athest Nation of your own any other God Other then the God of Abraham Isick And Jacob Is a False God.and those who belive on any other God is an ATHIEST Crackpot Headed Strate to Hell.and to ladyb12 you may accept the Forign Born Muslem Dicktator But i wont.

      • Marc

        “facts” ? Why would anyone want those on here ? It’s better to RaNt In AlL cApItAlS….GETS THE POINT ACROSS SOOOO MUCH BETTER, don’t ya think ?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Nah. Capitals are over-rated. I see no point in them, except to start a sentence or a name.

      • DaveH

        Since when have facts been any part of your comments, Norm?
        You are an encroacher. This board is set up for people to discuss the concepts of Freedom, something you know little about, Norm. You get on here and mostly spend your comments dissing others instead of adding anything substantive to the conversation. And you have the nerve to tell somebody else to shut up, as if you represent the members of this board? You’re a Liberal Loser, Norm. You should ply your trade on a Liberal board where name-calling, ridicule, and fabricated facts pass as debate.

        • http://NONE COLLEEN

          TOUCHE’

        • Norm

          DaveH
          I guess you’d rather play circle jerk with your extremist anarchistic buddies than to even consider other view points. It’s sort of like preaching to the choir.
          You are right, I do comment on some of the more obvious “dumb statements” and out and out lies.
          The wildest thing is the faulty basic premises that some people attempt to extrapolate from.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            But when your comments come from so far a place from reality, just how do you expect us to even consider them Norm? I mean, my gosh man, you have assaulted everyone that ever had a point contrary to yours, then you come back with this rant? You live by the liberal do as I say, because I know whats good for you, yet really, you havent a clue about what is even good for you, let alone me or the rest of us. So come with something good just once in awhile, and itll be much better for everyone.

      • Norm

        Suspicions confirmed. You enhance my point. When you neocon radicals have nothing of substance to say you turn to name-calling, and nonsensical raving.
        Is truth and reality that difficult to fathom?

        • TIME

          Norm For YOU, You Bet ya.

          Again Norm the same question I have asked time after time; did your repair or did your invent – when you were working?

          Its really a simple question, its one or the other what is it?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Left wing liberal democrats are radicals Norm. You give a lawyer to a terrorist that we caught trying to kill us, and pay for it with my money. That is as radical as it gets. Now go away.

    • ladyB12

      I believe you have to much anger…That does not settle anything.
      Obama is our president. Right or wrong we must not let the hate
      spill over into our judgment or we are doomed. Pulling together is the answer. If you do not like this man, then you hold meetings, meet with people to make changes in our world. Be active in politics, have town meetings, orginize coffee clutches and talk to your heads of government in your state. Become active. I did after I had enough of Reagan…I have never regreted it. You soon learn truth from fiction….and right now in our country there is more fiction then truth. Thank you.

      • William

        you are right lady and you are putting forth a lot of it.

        • http://m.villa@insightbb.com WalktheWalk

          William, LadyB12 is correct…

          We voted, as the majortity of americans the president of the United States. It’s call the democratic process that we hold true to our harts as americans. What about this do you not understand. Bush was votes in under this same process. Did you also not like his administration??

          • TIME

            WW,
            If you have voted in the last 100 years, you have never ever gotten the elected person who really won.
            Do your homework and then talk to us about the REAL world, your missinformed but hey your not alone, so to are 90% of all Americans let alone the rest of the world.

            If you think I am wrong then Prove me wrong.

            When you start digging you will find you owe yourslef and everyone else an apology.
            Don’t just take the fist case study, really DIG.

          • 45caliber

            I’m not sure what you are getting at. Are you saying that we should never change our minds? (Incidently, I did NOT vote for Oblama.) Or just not say anything bad about a man who is doing a good job of making himself look bad? Or what?

          • Jeep

            45cal, you see…its like this…ummm…he is…well…the prez is…I guess he’s a nice guy, so even if he ignores offers of help in the gulf, prevents the building of berms, and generally gets in the way of any progress in the gulf, well gosh darn it…he’s a nice guy! Oh, and did I mention he’s arc…ummm…artical…uhh…articulate! So give ‘em a pass on this one.

          • DaveH

            We’re just supposed to shut up like the Liberals do (yeah, right) and let Der Fuehrer destroy our way of life? Walk away.

      • JeffH

        ladyB12 says ” If you do not like this man, then you hold meetings, meet with people to make changes in our world. Be active in politics, have town meetings, orginize coffee clutches”

        First, Americans that have political meetings (example:Tea Party movement) are put on a “right wing extremeist” list by DHC, called vile names and are classified as hate mongers and racists by not only the government but also by the leftist MSM.

        Second, coffee clutches? You gave yourself away with that one…

        Not fooled here!

        • TIME

          Oy Vay,
          How about that coffee I just love it with a lump of coal.
          Momma Mia,lets all sit around the camp fire and sing our way
          to happiness. what is she saying? What am I missing?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        If you got tired of Reagan, I would have to say one thing. Move out of the country now. I was born and raised democrat, and it was the Ronald Reagan years that turned me around. It was also around that time that Jesus Christ entered my life and I had my eyes and ears opened, and started to hear and see things they way they really were for the first time in my life. Thank God for Ronald Reagan. If you got tired of that, your not a very strong American.

      • Claire

        ladyB12–You are certainly correct about your sentence–” and right now in our country there is more fiction than truth.” But I think you should apply this sentence mainly to our government and the politicians. Americans would not feel this way if we had decent, honest, and logical government. I for one am tired of the same old song and dance. Lies, dishonesty, corruption, greed, lack of good common sense and morals is the name of the game and I am tired of it.

    • animal

      bobinpa he is the anti-christ and you dont get a birth cert being born of a jackal

      • Norm

        animal
        And yet another pearl of wisdom!

  • David

    Big difference between blame and accountability. You make the mess, you clean it up. We learned that in kindergarten. President Obama didn’t make this mess anymore than President Bush. BP lied about safety. BP made the mess and,to their credit, they are taking responsibility for it and paying the costs. Let’s cut them some slack. Thank goodness President Obama is in charge. If A republican/conservative were in charge, as some have already stated, the tax payers would be footing most of the bill.

    • Al Sieber

      Yeah, we should thank our lucky stars David, that Obama is in charge, I’ll make sure it’s in my prayers tonight. what would we do without him.

      • http://m.villa@insightbb.com WalktheWalk

        Al,
        Make up your mind do you want government involvemnt in private business or not?? You can’t have it both ways…..

        Think man!!

        • 45caliber

          When a government refuses to allow the private company to use the equipment and people offered, then it is already involved – and shouldn’t be.

        • Jeep

          Are you just now getting into the game? Halftime ended a long time ago. When the govt refused to allow accepted procedure for preventing the spread of the spill on day two, the govt took responsibility.

        • JeffH

          …you can’t even “talk the talk”…

        • DaveH

          Oh sure, “Think man”, like the Liberals do when they emulate the failed policies of Socialist countries throughout history.
          Maybe, Walk, you can explain to me why the least regulated countries have much better economies than the most regulated countries?
          If you want to learn something, pick the country names from this list at the top (least regulated) and at the bottom (most regulated) to see why they are where they are:
          http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx

          • Norm

            DaveH
            The heritage foundation. Extremist BS.

            A failed state has several attributes. Common indicators include a state whose central government is so weak or ineffective that it has little practical control over much of its territory; non-provision of public services; widespread corruption and criminality; refugees and involuntary movement of populations; sharp economic decline.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Failed_States_Index

          • 45caliber

            Norm:

            And your point is …?

          • Norm

            45caliber

            “And your point is …?’

            ans. Obviously beyond your comprehension.

        • TIME

          WTW, I think Al is funning you, get it?

        • Al Sieber

          WtW, I was being sarcastic with Dave. and Hell no, I want a limited Govt.

    • Jeep

      You shine the light of ignorance so well into the darkness of truth that it makes it difficult to respond in a rational and articulate manner. If he stole candy from your children you would find an excuse to forgive him.

    • marvin

      David in two words bull sh-t,if your hero odumbo had allow the 13 different countrys that offered help in the first 3 day to help their is a good chance it would have been contained to a lesser degree,am i an expert no but i had over 20 years working in the oil field from drilling to production to pluging

    • DaveH

      Yes, David, we must protect those taxpayers. It’s a good thing we have Obama to do that for us, and our children, and our grandchildren.
      http://usdebtclock.org/

      • TIME

        Yea Dave, You just have to look at like thiis – If Barry Soetoro keeps it up they will have nice rusty chains to wear around their wrist legs and necks. Hey its hard work to get that age patina.

        • Norm

          TIME
          Wow how clever. Care to explain how you come up with such nonsense?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      And who do you think is footing the bill for Obama’s health care plan and his billion dollar bailouts of GM and Chrysler, and his expansion of food stamps, welfare, unemployment, and God knows how many new social programs he has going allready? Who is paying for that? Us, the taxpayer you jerk. Republicans spent too much money, but one thing they dont do, that the Democrats specialize in, is making social agency after social agency, and keep taxing the hell out of the workers and business’s, to give to those who dont feel like they should have to work. So dont give me your baloney. This president hasnt done a damn thing to help stop this, au contrare, he has turned down help that was offered. It is his agenda to let it spread and make the biggest mess possible, so he can push through his cap and trade. And just who do you think is going to pay for that? Get educated pal, thats all I can say, is get yourself educated.

  • Raggs

    Since obama is the so-called “messiah” I figured he would have used the hurricane to suck up the oil and spread it around the way he wants to spread my pay-check around to his buddies like the unions.

    • http://m.villa@insightbb.com WalktheWalk

      Raggs, Who calls Obama the “Messiah” except maybe you..??

      Maybe instead of Raggs you should log in as “Stupid”

      • Raggs

        Hey walkthewalk take a walk.

      • JeffH

        …could this be fast eddie or a future Darwin Award recipient?

      • DaveH

        Oh, look, a name-calling Liberal. How novel.

    • Marc

      ummmm….no, isn’t Sarah Palin the messiah ? She thinks this can be fixed with prayer…..

      • momof4

        Marc,
        Many things have been fixed with prayer.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Well Marc, in response to your comment, I have to say this. I was fixed with prayer, and if I can be fixed, from the broken state I was in, I truly believe anything can be fixed through prayer. Ive seen and experienced things that on a human level cant be done, so yes, I believe in the power of prayer. Some just have faith, some like me, have actually seen. How much more blessed are those that believe and havent seen? Much much more. So please dont discount the power of prayer, as you evidently have no idea of what it is your saying to make that statement.

  • Pete

    Obambi knew what he was in for when ran for pres. Now the little spineless twerp blames everyone else for his inability to do anything right. Why dont you man up and show the world that you are the man you think you are. “Or get the F’ out” !!

    • http://m.villa@insightbb.com WalktheWalk

      [Offensive comment removed]

    • American

      Pete, I don’t think he really did know what he was in for when he ran for the “title” of POTUS. Anyone with the right qualifications to do a job would also have insight as to what the job entailed; he has never had either one. The man has been groomed for this role for many years and after being “taught” and pumped up by the thugs and alinsky followers for so long he, in his vast arrogance, truly thought he could do the job. The problems are, not only is he completely unqualified, he didn’t have a clue what really went on in the president’s seat. Because he has never truly been and American (i.e. one of us) he didn’t realize that politics isn’t simply swearing an oath and then handing over a list of demands. He didn’t realize that there would actually be some who didn’t agree with his ideology and that his wishes wouldn’t just suddenly become law of the land simply because he said so. He’s a narcisist in its purest form and this is why, in his mind, he will never do anything wrong. Everyone else is wrong and everything negative that happens is someone else’s fault. I keep reading, “never send a boy to do a man’s job” and I whole-heartedly agree with that. Then again, so many felt (and still feel) that this is a position in which on-the-job training is acceptable. With all that being said, the truth of the matter is that at this point finding out who’s “ass to kick” is not top priority but his narcisism won’t let him see that. Maybe one of his numerous czars should tell him. The highly questionable election winning (how many of those votes were valid?), non-qualified (no proof of citizenship), no experience man who sits in that chair needs to take a vaction from taking vacations and do whatever it takes to get this mess cleaned up, even if it means bringing in experts in the field and making use of the help offered by our foreign neighbors. If he refuses to do what’s best for this country, especially the states most affected, then he should be tried for treason. I am only one woman with a voice and there is little I can do. But you can bet your sweet a** that I’ll be casting my vote in all elections to help America get back on it’s feet.

      • DaveH

        Obama is indeed very unqualified, but no man is qualified to have his hands in so many other peoples’ business. We have let our Government spread like a cancer and, like cancer, it will eventually destroy the host.
        There is only one way back to prosperity and freedom, and that is to get back to the concepts that were in place in the beginning of this country. The only Party I know with those core values is the Libertarian Party, the Party of Principles:
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform

        • Norm

          DaveH
          Vote libertarian and be a loser.
          Let’s go back to 1776 when men were men and life was very simple.
          Who needs science and the great progress made since then. With a life expectancy of 40 years we could eliminate most social programs. All you need is a farm, a musket, and crooked preacher. Those were the days!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I am all for eliminating all social programs Norm. Lets all keep the money we earn, be able to have that cash to put aside for ourselves, and learn how to stand up on our own two feet, and not teach our offspring to watch us lay around and collect handouts all their life as a way of living. I sure wish all the money Ive have taken from me for Social Security, Medicare, Federal Taxes and such, and Id pretty much be set for life, and I would need nothing the rest of my life. All these social programs do, since FDR started incorporating them, has made people lazy and content to live off of the backs of the working man, and its high time those days ended. However, the democrats keep making more and more and more of them, and one of the first things Obama did was expand the welfare, food stamp and unemployment benefits. Sorry, get off your ass and get a job. I did it, Obama did it, Bush did it, so why cant anybody else? Thats my point.

  • http://m.villa@insightbb.com WalktheWalk

    Intresting how in one hand the government is at fault and in the other hand “We don’t want big government involvement””…:) Funny..

    • Raggs

      If they create the problem without us knowing, they can then pass new constrants on us and our freedom in order to “fix” the problem.

      It’s pretty simple if you think about it. Marxism.

      • http://m.villa@insightbb.com WalktheWalk

        Raggs,

        No sure I understand your point. Can you explain so even I vcan understand. Sounds like just a buch of talk with no substance..

        • Raggs

          I doubt seriously if it would do any good to explain anything to you!
          In the first case you cannot even spell correctly so I’m sure you would be lacking in comprehension as well.

          • JeffH

            Raggs, this WalktheWalk character is “fast eddie47D”…no doubt about it…

        • DaveH

          I would be very impressed by anybody who could explain anything to you, Walk, so that you could understand.

    • 45caliber

      If the government is at fault, why wouldn’t we want them out of the picture? So far both the government and BP is at fault. I agree that the one causing the problem should clean it up.

    • DaveH

      Unbelievable, Walk. And “Intresting how in one hand the government is at fault and in the other hand “We don’t want big government involvement””…:)” passes as logical in your Liberal mind?
      So, if we thought the Government was at fault, we should want more of it?
      And you called Raggs “Stupid”?

      • John

        Thanks Dave, Walk’s comments didn’t make any sense to me either.
        Imagine being in a philosophy class with a bunch of liberals like Walk.

        • Claire

          Have you ever heard of a person that couldn’t walk and chew at the same time?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Thats right, we dont want big government. We dont need government running GM, creating more and more social agencies, bankrupting the school system, social security, the postal system, medicare, medicaid, and now health care. They failed at all of these things. What they are supposed to be doing, is making sure our infrastructure of roads and bridges and national parks are well, that our national security is well and that our military is well. That when we let companies drill for oil in the water, that it is done safely and procedures are followed. But they failed in this. This is one of the main things the government should be looking out for, is to protect the environment. This could have been done by drilling in ANWR or many other places. But do to the clout of the eco’s in conjuction with the democrats and other left wing liberal organizations, this is where they made them drill at. And they didnt do their job of making sure the safety of the environment was there. That is what the government should be doing, not giving lawyers to terrorists. Not running baseball courts for steroids. Not spending billions of dollars in legal fees spreading abortion around the world, suing places to take down the Ten Commandments, stopping the Pledge of Allegiance in school. That is the big government tyranny we dont need. We need them to manage the military, the budget, the infrastructure, and make sure drilling for oil and things like that are safe. Thats what they are supposed to do, but they have gotten side tracked with all this other stuff they need not be involved in.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    BLAME!! BLAME!! BLAME!! That’s all this POTUS knows how to do!! If he were an executive in a private corporation, he would’ve been fired months ago for being so irresponsible!! It may not be his fault that this BP incident occured, but he’s been so lackadaisical and negligent on solving the crisis. I bet if McCain or Bush were in The White House now, this Gulf crisis would’ve ended weeks ago…..As for the ‘Blame Game”, IMO Obama was to blame for this never-ending recession and high unemployment since 11/5/2008, months before his inauguration. Judging by Wall Street’s reaction to the disastrous 11/4/2008 election, it’s obvious many businesses and investors knew BHO’s policies would be a disaster. Thus there was never any reason to blame Bush for anything!!!!

    • Marc

      Why don’t Bush or McCain come up with a solution now? Let’s hear what the would do/have done .

      • TIME

        Marc, Thats really novel, how long did you think about that before you posted it, what 1000000000000000000000000000000000 of a second?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        It would have been capped by now if either one of them would have been in office. And if Palin had been in office, they probably would have been drilling safely on land in Alaska where all the safety studies and precautions have been set in place for years, yet the federal government through the eco’s has held it up, and we wouldnt have needed to drill in 5000 feet of water. I know for sure they wouldnt be sitting there doing nothing like this community organizer is doing.

  • J.M.R.

    I SEE THE BLAME GAME GOING ON EVERYWHERE EXCEPT THE E.P.A. WHERE A LOT OF THE BLAME SHOULD GO AS THEY SAID NO DRILLING IN SHALLOWER WATER BP DIDNT WANT TO DRILL IN 5000 FT.DEEP WATER BUT WAS TOLD THAT OR NOTHING.

    • 45caliber

      There is one thing that still puzzles me. The US does NOT control the entire Gulf. In fact, the government controls only a certain distance off the coast. In the case of FL, they control only about 30 miles.

      Was this well even in waters that the government “controlled?” I’m not certain – but I don’t think it was.

      • J.M.R.

        45caliber i’ve wondered the same thing i thought they had control of a few miles off the shore and it wasn’t no fifty miles.

      • Jeep

        International Treaties usually encompass a 12 mile zone off shore. The US has since around 1945 claimed 20 miles. Areas outside these territorial waters are “free game”, thus we have Chinese oil rigs out in the gulf. And, they are still pumping oil, btw.

      • DaveH

        I thought it was 200 miles for economic purposes, but it is more complicated than I thought:
        http://www.mcatoolkit.org/Overview/Basics_Boundaries.html

  • Daenna Z

    Most do not believe for a minute these were ” accidents”.
    Why we feel the media can’t be trusted to be honest with the public!
    We have all e-mailed Reps and the media and are ignored. When something smells bad it is usually rotten and this smells very bad! Most of us have not been fooled.
    The Obama regime gave George Soros 200 billion dollars to drill offshore in Brazil and he is the largest stock holder but why would he need two stock numbers ( shown Below)?
    The Obama regime needed this disaster to grow as large as possible for two reasons:
    1- To push Cap and Trade
    2- Bring in more oil from Brazil
    That is why Obama was so slow in reacting and why he refused then and is still refusing outside help. It is also the reason for the moratorium
    on drilling. All the blame is being put on BP to cover for the fact that the government is working hand in hand with Soros and the fact they forced BP to drill that deep.

    The fact that not one mention of the possibility of foreign/domestic terrorism/sabotage being the cause of even one of the ” accidents ” happening within one month just screams cover-up!

    Check out the one month timeline.
    On March 31,2010 Obama announces he will OK off shore exploration and expanding coal mining. Same day it is reported Sachs Goldman Sachs Asset Management (US) sells off 4,680,822 shares? Coincidence? We would like to know if any of the money went to buy shares in .Petroleo Brasileiro S.A.Petrobras?

    April 3, 2010 An explosion and fire at a Washington State oil refinery has claimed a fifth life.
    April 5, 2010 W Virginia coal mine explosion kills 25 April 20, 2010 Oil Rig explosion
    April 20, 2010 Deepwater Horizon rig, 11 killed
    April 30, 2010 2 men killed in KY mine collapse
    May 5, 2010 The AGE Refinery truck explosion and fire happened shortly before 11.30am local time on San Antonio’s south east side.

    These are the top 5 holdings of George Soros

    1.Petroleo Brasileiro S.A.Petrobras (PBR) – 9,818,323 shares, 15.42% of the total portfolio
    2.Hess Corp. (HES) – 5,123,198 shares, 10.56% of the total portfolio
    3.Petroleo Brasileiro S.A.Petrobras (PBR-A) – 5,884,700 shares, 7.53% of the total portfolio
    4.Potash Corp. of Saskatchewan Inc. (POT) – 1,978,053 shares, 7.06% of the total portfolio
    5.Plains Exploration & Production Company (PXP) – 6,526,400 shares, 6.84% of the total portfolio

    Note that there are two Petrobas stock numbers (PBR and PBR-A, numbers 1
    & 3 listed above).
    This looks interesting to me considering the Soros-Obama connections.

    The media and government are silent now about the first so called ” whistler blower “. Why? Because this is what he said they don’t want you to hear again.
    Former CEO of Shell Oil was on Hannity talking about the oil rig explosion and stated that something was very wrong, very bad happened out there because that explosion should never have happened, I E a worker ” accidentally ” shoved another rod down the pipe where that seal was damaged”but that has been conveniently ignored by the media and we haven’t heard from or seen this man in weeks since the people picked up on that part of what he said.
    Haven’t you noticed that all the environmentalists have been very quiet about this. No protest marches,nothing.
    When you consider the fact the very same scenario took place when Bush tried to pass oil drilling, coal mining and power plant expansion. Immediately after he announced the bill the ” accidents ” started happening, there were explosions at oil refineries, power plants and mine collapses until the bill was filibustered by the Democrats this begins to look more like a planned pattern.

    • http://m.villa@insightbb.com WalktheWalk

      Daenna,

      Get your facts straight. None of what you are saying makes any sense..Where did you get your data and who is we..??

      • 45caliber

        “We” is apparently not “you”. And if you are as dense as you appear to be, then you’d do a lot better to keep your mouth shut and learn from the rest of us.

      • Jeep

        WtW How much does the DNC pay you for each comment? I am not a big conspiracy theorist, however, Z lists a pretty interesting series of events that did happen. Or, maybe CNN didn’t report on those, whatever. You are very silly indeed.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I think WtW gets his news from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC, so of course he knows nothing about the truth of things, just the left wing liberal agenda they spew to him. Seems to me his agenda doesnt allow him to see the truth.

      • Marc

        Would be nice if people would supply links to their ‘data’. Let others judge the validity. I’d like to know that it’s not some ‘space alien invasion site’ .

      • DaveH
      • DaveH
    • http://N/A Maddoganirishman

      Along with most of the others posting this site it appears you get all your info from Glenn or Rush. Therefore you are wrong, wrong, wrong!
      George Soros divested himself from the ownership group in Brasil. The 200 million came from the previous administration. The year long secret meetings held by VP Cheney removed safety the device (sonic trigger) which would have prevented this whole tragedy.
      Try a website which employs less extreme supposition (there will be no back door payments to BP) or any other oil company.
      How about calling Obama a Kansan as his mom was from Kansas and she was a Christian. Obama never practiced or adopted the muslim religion. Sadly, many of us are named, none too happily after our fathers. We can’t help where we come from but we can decide where we go. Obama went to the White House and I’m happy for it!
      Oh, and people there is something called spell check, try it.

      • Conservative at Birth

        Making sarcastic remarks aout typographical errors as spelling mistakes is counter productive to any intelligent conversation.

        • Jana

          Conservative,
          Me thinks Maddog is writing fiction now. (Said in an Irish brogue)

      • Conservative at Birth

        Can you prove that Obama has not adopted the Muslim Religion? After all he has admitted as much in television interviews.

        • Marc

          can you prove you’re not an alien from outer space? The American legal system is based on the persecutor (oh , guess that should be prosecutor) proving a case . Please present your proof .

          • TIME

            Marc,

            Check your tin foil cap I think its got a crack in it.
            The rays are getting in, Ohhhhh noooooooo sooooooon you will be under the spell of – oh well it won’t work on you.

      • DaveH

        Secret Meetings that you know the outcome of? Interesting.
        Do you have any references, MadDog?

      • DaveH

        So MadDog says “George Soros divested himself from the ownership group in Brasil.” When did that occur, MadDog? Since I have proof that he had 7.4 million shares as late as November 2009:
        http://www.fundmymutualfund.com/2009/11/george-soros-reveals-stake-in-ford-f.html
        Do you have a more current reference? Or are you just the typical Liberal reporting fabricated facts?

        • TIME

          Dave,
          The old adage is a mad dog is just a frothing mouth piece. I think we have one……….

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I dont think he will respond to the truth. Liberals hate being called out and having the truth presented to them. It throws them into a frenzy, because it is so strange to them, that they cant comprehend it.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I think you are in great error. You see, you say Obama’s mom is a Christian. It cannot be. A Christian would not marry a muslim and become one. Someone might tell you they are a Christian and do this, but if she were a real Christian, there is no way. You dont sell Jesus Christ for a false belief. It just doesnt happen. And Obama is a muslim, I heard him say so myself on live TV. They wrote it off as a slip of tongue, but sorry pal, no one can say “it is against my muslim faith” as a slip of tongue. This could never come out of me. Never, because its not in me. He slipped the truth, and they swept it under the rug. And if your happy your president sits there doing absolutely nothing about this oil leak but pointing fingers, hampers the clean up effort by not accepting help so that he can give free money to the unions that cannot skim this oil out, and your happy he uses our tax money to perform abortions overseas, which was one of the first things he did when he got elected. And your happy he gave GM and Chyrsler billions of dollars of our money to buy future UAW votes, and your happy that he has offered no plans, no actions, and no solutions to anything and everything, then I would say you are as he is, part of the problem, and not the solution. How you can back a guy who has screwed up every which way so far, is beyond me. Good luck with your love affair of this community organizer, because after 2012, thats about the only title he will be able to hold on to.

    • coal miner

      DaennaZ,

      Deregulations are the cause.

      http://www.commondreams.org/category/broad-topics/mining · Cached pageAmerican Chronicle | New Mining Laws Year After Sago Non-Implemented
      … the industry’s deregulation … hour of air per miner was required. Mine operators must report a disaster … What caused the explosion and what caused the disaster, according to …

      http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/19568 · Cached pageNewsvine – Obama seeks federal report on coal mine disaster
      Obama seeks federal report on coal mine disaster … Investigators so far believe it was the miner’s … As far as I can tell, its not a matter of deregulation.

      http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2010/04/08/4133326-obama-seeks-federal-report-on-coal-mine-disaster · Cached pageConfined Space
      – Jack McReynolds, 70, retired miner, West Frankfort, KY … 13 PM by Jordan Bush’s Highway Deregulation Kills … in the book: “Trucking Tragedies: The Hidden Disaster of …

      spewingforth.blogspot.com/2006/12/bushs-highway-deregulation-kills.html · Cached pageABC Radio National – Background Briefing: 23 April 1995 – Moura Mine …
      Moura Mine Disaster Sunday 23 April 1995 . Print. Program … He smelt the heating that caused the Kianga explosion in … walked right to the back of the panel with another miner …

      http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s10796.htm · Cached pagemid coast views: Murder in West Virginia coal fields-miners deserve …
      One miner threw a chair, a surviving father and son … ventilating methane which is suspected to have caused the … While the cause of Monday’s disaster is under investigation …

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  • James Hay

    THis along With countless other reason why Obama should be Impeached along with his fellow Anti-American Subversives in Congress that’s if this country is to survive their attemps to destroy it. IT’S TIME TO TAKE OUT THE TRASH THAT HOLDS OUR GOVERNMENT AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE PRISONERS OF THEIR TYRANNY IMMEDIATELY!!!!!

    • http://m.villa@insightbb.com WalktheWalk

      James,
      They didn’t impeach Bush and did a lot worse at his job. I am sure there is an impeachable offense that falls under just plain ignorant..

      • 45caliber

        Frankly, I fail to see how ANYONE could do a lot worse than Oblama is doing. And if you could impeach anyone for ignorance, Oblama would have already been gone.

      • Jeep

        WtW, and where was President Bush worse? Maybe unemployment numbers…no, still steady at 10%. Maybe taxes….no, new taxes and a whole bunch more slated for nest year, and the Bush tax cuts expire. Maybe deficit spending…way no, these guys have outspent every previous administration by far. Maybe scandals within his administration…definately no, do I need to list all the tax evaders? How about vacation time…no. Wait, maybe it was in the appointment of so many czars…no, not that either. So, where was President Bush worse?

        • WarriorH

          I think Bush was the one that gave Eve the fruit! Yea, that’s it, it was Bushes fault.

        • Marc

          Going to war with the wrong country over 9/11 ? Not saying a change in Iraq wasn’t needed but how about doing things for the right reasons ?

          • 45caliber

            Going to war with the “wrong” country? What country would you consider the right one? After all, terrorists are all over the place. All Bush promised was to try to root them out – regardless of where they could be found. I think he was trying to do that. At least we didn’t have any other attempts on us by terrorists. So far with Oblama we’ve had at least two.

      • DaveH

        Then, we have the grounds to impeach you, WTW.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Really. Again with you, lets bring some facts into the equation. Under Bush, employment at an all time high in this country, un-employement at an all time low. Stock market at an all time high. Millions of people freed in Iraq and Afghanistan. One of the worlds most brutal dictators brought down. United States kept safe from terrorists that Bill Clinton allowed in the country to set up 9-11, the same guys that punched us in the nose time and time again as Billy grabbed another cigar. Seems to me, that when Bush left unemployement was at like 4-1/2 percent. Obama has constantly been 10 or more, and its going to get worse when he cancels the Bush tax cuts which is coming up soon. So seriously, you just got caught lying, and besides man, Bush has been gone almost 2 years now, so can we concentrate on the lack of action being taken by this current admin for the last two years? Can we? I mean, when Bush took over from Clinton, Billy had the economy in the tank. It was bad. Never once did Bush and his boys stand on their pedestal and point fingers and blame Clinton. No sir. They rolled up their sleeves and went to work, and did what they said they were going to do, and got the economy rolling. Why doesnt this lackey in power now do the same, and climb down off of his pedestal, put his pointy finger away, and roll up his sleeves and get to work? Why? Because he has no plans, no course of action, no leadership skills, nothing. All he has is that little pointy finger he used to get elected. Thats it, and the blame everyone else thing is getting quite old sir. Quite old.

  • Winston W

    If we were to use the assets we have on land and there were to be an spill— would’nt be easier to clean??— Safer and less exceptive on land??– Also help get the USA away from the countrys that do not like us. I believe the environmental people are part of the problem , all they say is –no not here, no not here. They do not seem to help give any answers , just no not here. IF YOUR NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION YOUR PART OF THE PROBLEM !!!!

    • American

      I’ve often wondered Winston, why there has been no drilling on the Balkan (am I spelling that right?) reserve. The largest reserve in the world sits under the Dakotas, in the wilderness no doubt, and is easily accessible yet no one is drilling there. We could completely supply this country long after other wells have dried up and stop depending on other countries if we were to tap this source. Is there anyone out there that can give me a fact-filled argument against this? I don’t mean tree huggers who spew out a bunch of baloney either; I mean a good case against drilling there.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear American,

        John Myers has repeatedly spoken about about the Bakken formation. Following is the text of one of his recent responses to the question:

        I really wish readers would stop saying there is an oil bonanza in North Dakota. I know some of you have read estimates that claim there are 1 trillion barrels of oil or more in the Bakken Formation. This is nonsense on so many levels.

        First there is some oil there, but is not in easy to access pools.

        Second, U.S. oil reserves stand at 21 BILLION barrels.

        In fact the 1 trillion barrel number that people are kicking around for the Bakken Formation would double all existing oil reserves in the world. Meanwhile, since the Bakken “discovery” a decade ago the price of crude oil has increased by almost four-fold.

        Finally, who thinks BP and others are drilling miles into the Gulf of Mexico if there are hundreds of billions of barrels of oil in North Dakota? Here is a hint: the population of Bismarck is around 100,000. It has increased by 10,000 people in the past decade. Hardly a gold rush to cash in on that trillion barrels of oil.

        If you don’t believe me come to Calgary and talk to the people that make their living drilling for oil and gas. They will tell you that in terms of the big picture, the Bakken Formation is a joke.

        I hope this answers you question,

        Best wishes,
        Bob

  • OneDamnAngryAmerican

    There is only one reason why we have this mess in the Gulf. On day one, BP should have been ordered to cap this well and shut off all production of oil from it. As I type this post, BP is still being allowed to produce from this well, even though it is leaking at least 60% of it’s crude into the Gulf. Why is this? Since day one, not one elected official, from the WH or from the HOR made a demand that this well be capped and all production stopped. This is the “only” reason why we have this mess, today. Think about it! And, if you aren’t capable of comprehending my comment, you can ponder this one. Both the President and the HOR have received more campaign funds from BP then any other president or member of the HOR have ever received from BP, IN ITS ENTIRE HISTORY! And, on another note, even if this mess is cleaned up, which it won’t be, the negative effects on tourism, home sales, jobs and commerce in the Gulf states will NEVER recover. To this day, you can still walk the shore of Prince Edward Sound and “smell” oil! Why is that? Bill Clinton was apparently correct, when he noted that the “average American citizen is nothing but an idiot!” Or, words to that effect!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Having been to Prince William Sound, I found it to be pristine as it was before the Exxon Valdez spill, and I did not smell or detect the scent of oil anywhere. Are you sure you werent working on your car and it was on your hands or rubbed on your nose or something?

  • Bill

    Hey Norm. Bobinpa is right on, Obama is a liar and if you cant see that then you are either stupid, or just a progressive opps the same thing. When the collapse happens you will still be in denial, which is a good thing as you would have not prepared “because the government will take care of you right?” Well then you have the possibility of staving to death and therefore there is such thing as poetic justice! And buy the way where is the birth cert Huh??? Comi

    • Conservative at Birth

      The Progessives, ie. Totalitarian Socialists, are not stupid. Obviously they are very devious, and capable of deluding are large portion of the population. Calling them stupid will not change their success at deception.

      • DaveH

        Whether they are intelligent or not is a matter of debate. But what they do have that Conservatives don’t is a lack of honor. They will say or do whatever it takes to get their way, damn morality.

        • John

          Dave H,
          Exactly, just as some of obama’s own left-wingers are turning on him and like the one that’s responsible for McChrystal’s dismissal.
          True they have no sense of loyalty, especially to this Great Country within which they reside.

  • Delores Smith

    JOHN MYERS – GREAT ARTICLE – THANK YOU…
    It’s a terrific article, and I agree with what you say.
    There is one particular issue on my mind. Why did Obama meet in the Oval Office with only the Chairman of the Board of BP? Any intelligent meeting should have included Tony Hayward, the CEO and Operations Manager. He is the person that would provide information, not the Chairman of the Board. Here’s my guess, the deal was made between Obama and B.P.’S Chairman of the Board. The fact that Hayward was not included makes me believe that Hayward wasn’t in on the deal. The Congressional Committee looked like a bunch of thugs. When Burton stated that he felt it was a “shakedown”, and then took back his words, I was really angry. The $24,000,000,000 escrow count was not a “shakedown”, it was pure extortion. Obama didn’t have the right to appoint himself the Supreme Court. He is the Executive Branch, messing around with the checks and balances of our Constitution (which he hates).
    Hayward was told to limit his replies at the Committee Hearing. This was after the meeting between Obama and the Chairman of the Board. The Committee looked very ignorant and cruel. Good luck with your elections!!
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

  • Robert Palmer Smith

    “Prison Planet speculates that Obama and BP are joined at the hip.” That is excellent speculation because it will not be the first time that BP has been ‘joined at the hip’ with government. The undersigned, along with BP, were active participants in legally(?) breaking the embargo imposed by Great Britain and the UN on Rhodesia in 1965. May I take the liberty of quoting from the DARKEST TRUTHS OF BLACK GOLD, “……the factor that allowed a British Government majority owned oil company (BP) to continue to supply petroleum products to a country, a country that had been embargoed by that very same majority owner, was the British Government’s need for the economic impetus represented by the South African economy.” BP has been ‘in bed with government’ for so many years that it just comes as second nature ‘to be joined at the hip’.
    However, now is not the time to raise all these probabilities. They should be allowed to concentrate on the job at hand – stop the leak-and when they are successful, then all the questions of how and why need to be answered.
    Robert Palmer Smith

    • 45caliber

      One comment that Oblama has made about BP has caught my attention and he said is several times. “I’m going to make BP pay ME twenty billion dollars.”

      Why does HE get the money?

      • J.M.R.

        45 he’s the head dclk-tater

      • Marc

        Since you put that in quotes, can you back that up with a link to where he said it ? Did a Google search and got no results.

  • http://www.adobemachine.com Dan

    Just remember this folks, It’s all about the power. No matter what the situation the Liberal left with their pet media spinsters will drive EVERY situation for their accumulation of power. How much of what you see is actually fact? If the media says it’s so don’t believe it. I’m waiting for the power grab just like Clinton in 94.

  • 45caliber

    I’ve worked in the chemical industry for over thirty years now. I’ve worked in a plastics plant for the last ten years or so.

    Plastics are made from oil. So we deal with a lot of it. There are several places in the process that could be dangerous if not controlled. We have so many different safety measures in place that if one fails there are probably half a dozen more that can catch it.

    BP owns and operates chemical plants too. They have the same need for safety measures. So I doubt if BP is used to doing without safety measures on platforms.

    Yet all I hear about is ONE safety device that failed. We have flash surpressors on all vents to prevent any explosion. We have flares to burn off any gas that might escape. Yet nothing like that worked on the drill rig. It exploded. There is only ONE way I know to stop all safety devics from operating at the same time – sabotage.

    Further, it takes oxygen mixed with the gas or oil to make it burn – and oxygen can be found only in the air. What made it explode at the bottom? There is only one way I know about to cause such an explosion. Again, sabotage.

    In addition, oil platforms have at least four legs to provide stabilization in the water. The oil rig can’t bob with the waves or it would tear up the piping. They tow a rig to the site and then partially fill the legs with water to stabilize it. The legs are also the flotation devices that keep it afloat. They are at the perimeter of the platform and for the most part are under water. If they have a hole at the top, it means nothing – all boats do for instance.

    The ONLY way an oil platform can sink is when more than one of the legs are ruptured below the water line. Further, there are decks inside the legs which can be sealed off. Those decks must also be ruptured – or someone has to leave the sealed doors open between decks. An explosion above the deck as was shown will not bother the legs at all. Only one reason I know will – sabotage.

    I don’t know that sabotage is the factor and I certainly hope I am wrong. But it is interesting to note that the platform is no longer available to inspect for causes of the explosions. And the timing is so noticeable. Oblama agrees to let more drilling go on – and two weeks later the explosion. Now he wants to shut down all drilling. Further, he’s not allowed any of the things he should have done to allow BP and others to stop the oil spill and the spread of the oil.

    • DaveH

      Excellent comment, 45.

    • Norm

      45caliber
      First you make up a totally unsubstantiated premise. Then you build on it. Input a little paranoia, and now you have totally nonsensical conclusion.
      It reminds me of the conspiracy plots on the Trade Center of 9/11. Only then the neocons were on the side of reality for a change.

      • 45caliber

        I fail to see your comment about an impossible premise.

        All comments about the chemical industry are actual. In fact, they are sometimes too actual since it is a pain to put in all those safety items such as flares, flash surpressors, etc.

        I will admit to some speculation on the actual cause of the (multiple) disasters at this site. There MIGHT be another reason and I’m waiting to hear it. As I said, I don’t know for sure – yet. But I do know what safety equipment would normally be used, I do know how hard it is to stop all of it from working WITHOUT sabotage, and I do know how the drill rigs are supported.

        What is your explanation?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I agree, and everything Ive read about these safety blowouts, are that all of them cannot fail at the same time, without something hokey going on. I still think someone got the switchboard, probably a greenie with an agenda that oil is bad, and made this happen to be able to piss everyone off at the oil companies. I would not put that past them. I mean, look at the radical things they do. They have driven spikes into trees that have made chains come off saws and cut guys arms off. They have burnt down SUV dealerships. They have burnt down condominium projects. They ram fishing boats with their boats. They dont care, they push their agenda at all costs, and feel they can do no wrong. This is the type of guys we are dealing with, with the greenies. I think one of them got a job there, and did this.

  • Take it or leave it!

    Sorry to say it, but no matter what any of you defending Obama say, as bobinpa has passionately commented, Obama has done nothing but lied and deceived the American people. This notion that there are no facts as norm and every other defender of Obama has tried to point out, is a last desperate attempt to keep this president of welfare entitlements and hater of capitalism in office. This discussion has gone beyond trying to prove ones argument by fact-finding, with this guy its hard to tell what the facts are. People see a guy who looks at his job almost like hes Bruce Almighty, if you’ve seen the movie, where all the power has gone to his head and with this new power hes going to pass everything that benefits him and his agenda, not whats good for America. Now, those are the facts, Norm and not just a bunch of rambolin. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist or a professor fact-finding to prove his theories, to figure out what this President is doing! You Obama-defenders need to take a step back, listen instead of criticizing these people for what they feel about this guy, and really take a look at what you voted for. This guy has fooled a lot of people on the outside, but now the true Obama has emerged from within and nothing about him is good.

    • 45caliber

      If everyone got a dollar each time they told a lie, Oblama would be the richest man on earth.

      • Norm

        45caliber
        Would you care to elaborate.

        • John

          Norm, excuse 45 Caliber for accusing obama of being a liar.
          We all know he doesn’t lie.

          He just lacks integrity, that’s all.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Nah, Im think Bill and Hillery along with John Kerry would be right up there at the top. It used to be when I was little, my mom would say “your going to go to hell for lying”. Im sure pretty much all moms said that. Now days, I tell people “You know where your going to go for lying”, and they say, “Yeah I know, to hell”, to which I say, “No, to the Clinton cabinet”.

  • Take it or leave it!

    Cute! Walk the walk, looks like your going through pushing people around who don’t agree with you and this so-called President, and prase the ones who do. Nice touch, now why don’t you walk off and talk some where else instead of playing this childish bulling game. Typical of a Liberal to stup to degrading and name calling to try to make himself look good!

  • s c

    As of TODAY, Herr Obummer [aka The Finger Pointer, His Shiftiness, Perfection Chicago-style, El Blamo, The Infallible One, Who, me?] has all but ADMITTED that this worthless government (he, himself) is AT LEAST PARTLY to blame for this disaster. As of TODAY, His Finger Pointing Shiftiness is still THINKING about letting other countries HELP America solve this damned problem [THINKING about it!].
    Only a pathetic LAWYER and a true USEFUL IDIOT for his puppet masters would use such a flawed defense.
    Do you now SEE WHO and WHAT is in the White House?
    The MAIN blame goes to the RETARD who decided that we need to rely on DEEP WATER, OFFSHORE DRILLING. By HIS OWN CHOICE, HE has CREATED this situation, he OWNS it, and HE has made it WORSE!

    • 45caliber

      One thing Oblama should do is keep in mind: when you point a finger at someone you are also pointing three more at yourself.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        That all he’s got man. Thats what got him elected, just pointing the finger and placing blame. I mean he never divulged any plan, any course of action. The media never revealed who he was, where he was from, where he is going, nothing. Just pointing the fingers and placing blame. Now 2 years later, here we are where we need leadership and action to be taken, and where is our so called leader? Still standing on his soap box, pointing fingers and placing blame. Its like the race card. Its been over used, over played, and people are sick of it. Put it away and join the real life, and get over yourself allread.

    • Marc

      WHY DO PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO BE CONSERVATIVE/RIGHT WING LIKE TO USE SO MANY CAPITAL LETTERS ON HERE ? DOES IT MAKE UP IN VOLUME FOR THE LACK OF FACTS PRESENTED ?

      • Conservative at Birth

        What are you doing on what could be assumed to be a conservative blog? And why did you use all Capital letters? Is it because you cannot have an intelligent exhange of ideas? Because you really don’t have the truth on your side?

      • DaveH

        What facts do you Liberals present, Marc? And you can’t count the fabricated facts.

        • John

          I was wondering when someone was going to respond to this fool.
          The only facts those libs have are spun. I haven’t seen him put forth any facts otherwise. We always have links on this site. Furthermore, if he paid attention to what was happening he wouldn’t be so ignorant.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Maybe if you were literate, you would know that certain words capitalized exact emphasis on those words, and you would pick them out as stronger words in the paragraph. But since your a liberal, you write your comment in all capitals, then lambast somebody else for it, thus proving your ignorance to everyone one of us. Nice stroke, Ace.

  • http://mac.com Stutz

    There are 2000 oil skimming vessels scattered throughout the USA and super skimmers being offered from the Dutch as well as scores of other countries to help with the cleanup. After 72+ days of this madness only 20 lousy skimmers are out there working. The Obama administration has consistently refused foreign help or to allow other skimmers to come from around the country. They claim the skimmers need to stay where they are in case of another spill. That is like leaving the fire trucks at the station while your house is burning down in case another house catches fire. WAKE UP FOLKS, the Obama administration does not want this to be solved any too soon because they will lose the opportunity to extract another huge piece of our freedoms through the passing of all kinds of regulation in the wake of all this. Regulation that will include Cap and Trade which is the largest heist ever perpetrated on any nation of people in the history of the world. Look up “Chicago Climate Exchange” and related entities and it will all make sense and enrage!

    • 45caliber

      I agree with you.

      I believe Oblama’s comment about illegal aliens to Sen. Kyl is a good example of his way of thinking: “But if I seal the border, (fix the problem) you all won’t see any reason to pass my amnesty bill (cap and trade bill).”

      • DaveH

        Obama should be fired for refusing to do his assigned job.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He said no so that he could give work to the unions, since they are all in bed together. Just like at GM, Chrysler, and wherever else they are, the American public suffers so that the unions can suck the money out of things.

  • Mondovibe

    We drill in shallow, deep water & land, all of which have been spilled, ruining our enviroment for years.
    So why try to change things for the better, let’s keep drilling, staying addicted, fighting wars and let big corporation’s & Wall St. profiteering practices continue to control the world ’cause disaster capitalism works just fine for them. Why should we care about people & planet profits, we’re just commodities.

    • JeffH

      Sounds good to me…

    • 45caliber

      I don’t have the slightest problem with “green” energy – as long as it can replace oil and is just as cheap.

      But I do have a problem with throwing oil aside now without any “green” energy to use for replacement. I also have a problem paying 5-20 times as much for power/fuel as I do now considering my paycheck.

      So don’t try to convince me to go “green” until you have something to offer.

      • vicki

        45caliber says:
        “I don’t have the slightest problem with “green” energy – as long as it can replace oil and is just as cheap.”

        Most sensible Americans think the same way. And that is Obama’s plan. He told us during his campaign. “..eletricty rates would necessarily skyrocket” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqHL404zhcU

        So after Cap’n’trade all the currently too expensive green energy solutions rather suddenly become “just as cheap”.

        Btw we will still need oil for things other than energy. Lubricants, plastics, etc.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Im glad everyone doesnt have 85 thousand extra dollars lying around to put solar panels all over their roof tops. What an eyesore that would be. Then Im glad we all dont have an extra 150 thousand or so laying around and put a windmill in our front yards. What an eyesore that would be. I agree, when they can come up with something cheaper than oil that works as good, Ill buy in, but until then, I like the benefits oil brings us. Its kept us warm and alive, and given us plastics and jobs by the millions, and out of all the wells out there, in the thousands, we have one problem and everybody panics. The solution is to stop the oil flow on this one, learn our lesson about drilling in too deep of water, and drill safely on land in ANWR and all over the U.S. where there is oil. Drilling in deep water was a nightmare dreamed up by the greenies. Not a good idea.

        • vicki

          Actually there are several designs of solar panels for rooftops that look much like the roof that is there. Solar panels on flat rooftops can’t even be seen. If the rooftop is a business the air conditioners are already hidden by a skirt around the roof line so even solar panels that sit up to point better would be invisible.

          Here is a link to pictures of a home installation.

          http://us.sunpowercorp.com/residential

          Click on the business tab to see a business installation.

          Windmills in the front yard are not likely to be a problem because wind is not that active in urban settings so most people would not consider it.

    • DaveH

      Mondovibe,
      It is a known fact that the poorest nations have the dirtiest environments. So you think we should pursue economically unsound paths and become one of them?

  • Brad

    My question, we have over 1600 oil skimmers located at various locations around the nation, why hasn’t BO ordered all of them to the gulf for clean up duties? IMHO the President and current administration don’t want to look as if they are week (which they are) due to a 1997 environmental law requiring oil skimmers at all major oil fields. Our own government has turned away help from other country’s, so why won’t BO act, because he has no balls, he won’t take the chance and disrupt his allies on the green side. By the way where has the green movement been during this entire oil spill fieasco, they have been strangely silent? Obama needs to point the finger at the green movement with their so called lobbiests getting so many restrictions and guidelines for deep water oil drilling, it’s practically the fault of the green movement this accident happened in the first place.

    I’m all for the environment, but not at the cost of more money in corporates pocket or big government pocket, in many ways I do believe BP and BOs administration are in bed with each other, we’ll see what happens in the future.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      For years the democrats have been convincing the American public that Republican/Big Oil are hand in hand, and have been trying to demonize both of them. When the truth is, they have more in the bed with Big Oil than the Republicans, so dont let them fool you. They are in bed with anti American organazations like the ACLU, and are in bed with HUGE anti Americans like George Soros. That right there should tell people all they need to know about democrats. They owe George Soros, because he owns them. He bought and sold them a long time ago, and now it is time for them to pay the piper. We need to ditch them all, like really quick.

  • http://mac.com Stutz

    Right on, Brad

  • jopa

    Who is to be blamed for the gulf disaster.Everyone forgets to look in the mirror and see that it is US with our addiction to oil.I remember several times over the years when gas prices skyrocketed there was very little traffic on the rosdways.Everyone cut back on unecessary driving.If everyone acted as though gas prices were one or two dollars more a gallon than they actually are we would not be so dependant on foreign oil.Also the article above is trying to imply gulf oil drilling was shut down which it was’nt.Only 33 exploratory wells out o 3600 were to be affected to see if they were doing things in the correct manner to avoid another disaster.I have noticed several posts claiming we did not accept foreign help in this crisis but we actually did.The only thing that was not used was a chemical dispersant offered by thr French but not approved in the US.

    • Conservative at Birth

      The Obama administration took two weeks to say no to at least 12 Countrys offers of help (within 3 days of the spill) in the clean up. Where do you get your information? Have you had your head in the sand? The most advanced skimming techonolgy is on a vessel flying a Taiwanese Flag that was docked in N.C., as Obama has refused to temporarily revoke the Jones Act.

    • Conservative at Birth

      What do you propose we become addicted to to make all of the products that we currently make from oil? Or do you have an ulterior motive in mind. Like forcing everyone to live in FEMA Camps where we will not need our automobiles, televisions, computers, etc.?

    • 45caliber

      jopa:

      Like most liberals you are blaming everything on society. No one is at fault but us. Balony. Someone was a fault but I don’t think – due to the rig sinking – that anyone will ever know for sure who it was. Whoever it was is also guilty of 11 deaths.

      You can NEVER fix a problem until you can convince people to not do it and blaming it on society doesn’t work.

      If you want me to quit using oil or oil products, offer me the alternate NOW – not in twenty years IF someone can come up with some new invention. Don’t say that we can use solar power, for instance, when there are no solar power generators waiting to go on line. Don’t insist on wind when no one will allow any windmills to be erected or connected to the power grid. And don’t insist that I pay 5-20 times as much for energy. I can’t afford it.

    • DaveH

      Funny, Jopa, I remember the opposite observation. When the gas prices would go sky-high, I was amazed at all the cars still on the road. I can’t help but wonder how many of those are getting Government assistance as there were cars on the road at all times of the day when most people would be working.

    • vicki

      Oil consumption is not and never has been an “addiction”. We use oil because it is the best current method of storing energy and/or lubricating. And the best current method of creation of plastics.

      When something better comes along we consumers without any need for government force will move on to that something.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Thats right. It is a product that produces for us what we intend for it to do when we pay for it. It is responsible for many of the advances in life we have made over the years. Oil has made many things possible, and most of us without it in one form or another wouldnt have jobs, a home, a vehicle, or much of a life, had it not existed. They are successful, and its so easy to demonize success. Yet we all are now led to believe we should feel sorry for the bum that doesnt ever want to work, and lays around getting stoned and drunk all day, so now we are going to give him free health care, paid for by us that work. Society demonizes the oil companies, and Walmart, and successful business, that we all gladly contribute to, and wouldnt if they didnt give us what we want. How did it evolve to this point? Maybe the left wing liberal media demonizing them, and drumming into our heads that they are bad? I have to wonder.

        • vicki

          No need to wonder. Just think back to all those movies and tv shows that pit corporations and/or rich people as antagonists to the protagonist. Its called drama and drama sells.

  • bobinpa.

    Norm- The Question I asked was WHY BP had to drill in deep water. Did you answer the question??. No, you came up with a bunch of Left Wing CRAP. What did I say was UNTRUE?? Answer the damn Question. Look at the condition of this country. For 8 years we put up with the VITRIOL of the Anti-American Marxist left aghainst Pres. Bush. This Kenyan National is still blaming Pres. Bush for his own mistakes. The Left wing media has proven to be irrelavant. The more we find out about this Kenyan Muslim in the White House the worse it gets. Oh yeah, if he is an American, he should PROVE IT BY NOW. The TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS “HE IS NOT” And the phoney crap of calling someone a Birther means NOTHING. Now answer the Question, WHY DID BP have to DRILL in DEEP WATER??. Answer or Shut your left wing Liberal Mouth.

    • 45caliber

      They drilled in deep water because the present … government … wouldn’t allow any shallow wells be drilled. And the oil was needed.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        To appease the greenies, in concert with the democrats.

  • Rick

    The bottom line is Obama is inexperienced, incompetent, ineffective,
    and any other synonym for these terms, leading a team with similar
    qualities. He has always been able to talk and BS his way out of any
    crisis that did not involve “REAL WORLD” solutions. When it comes to
    a crisis situation calling for effective solutions, he is letting his
    ideologies and commitments to left wing whackos overide the safety and
    security of the people in the states that did not vote for him.

    • Conservative at Birth

      Rick, I would evaluate him as extremely competent at decieving the American people into voting for him, and destroying our economic and polititical system. He may or may not achieve his ultimate goal of a totalitarian dictatorship through the declaration of Marshall Law and the internment of political opposition in FEMA Camps. Keep your powder dry and watch for further developments along those lines.

      • 45caliber

        Actually, I don’t think he is competent at anything. I think he is a front for some who don’t want to risk becoming targets.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Exactly sir, you hit the nail on the head. This guy has zero leadership skills, and is just the head piece of the left wing liberals, who use him to push their agenda. Ive said it before and Ill say it again. These same democrats, will throw him under the bus before the election in 2012, because they know he is unable to get elected again. They will replace him with Hillery, who is also unelectable, but they dont see that yet. Its like watching a dark sitcom, watching these guys unravel. Soon they will be eating themselves, and Im thinking that when they throw him under the bus, they are forgetting that over 90 percent of the black population voted for him, and that they might ditch the democrats over this, and being that the democrats have never done a damn thing for them, it would be high time they switched over.

  • Patricia James

    Did it ever occur to anyone that, just maybe, Obama is brilliant, and that everything that has happened is according to plan–the plan being to take down our great nation so we will not be able to stop the upcoming wars and other ugly things that are going to be happening very soon?? Just a thought from a 78 year old lady who has been around for quite a while.

    • 45caliber

      I don’t think he is brilliant but I wouldn’t be surprised to find some brilliant people giving him orders.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        George Soros didnt get rich being a dummy. He pulls many of the strings in the democrat party, because they have owed him so much for a long time now. And its payback time.

    • DaveH

      Patricia,
      It doesn’t take brilliance to deceive the Hopers and Dreamers. They want something for nothing, so they don’t have a lot of incentive to research the actions that Obama and his crew take. Reality is not nearly as attractive as Hoping and Dreaming.

  • Kris

    Obama is sending 2 billion dollars to Brazil for oil drilling. The company in Brazil is going to drill 13 to 14 thousand feet in the ocean! George Soros has 900 million dollars invested in this drilling company. Obama stops all drilling in the gulf and now the same oil company in Brazil has made an offer on the oil rigs in the gulf to come to Brazil and drill for them! Most of the oil rigs are packing up and going to other countries and taking the jobs with them. Obama said it’s unsafe to drill at 500 feet but apparently thinks 14 thousand feet is ok? He thinks it’s so safe that he is sending 2 billion of taxpayer money to help them. Wake up folks, he wants to destroy this country and bring us down to a 3rd world status!

    • 45caliber

      They won’t be drilling in 13,000 feet deep water; it will be a lot shallower. The total depth will be 13,000 feet – which is probably about what this well is. I don’t actually know. But I do know that it is far deeper in the ground than it is in water.

      But I do agree with you. Instead of giving our tax money to someone else to drill oil so we can buy it, why not drill here for oil we already have – and not pay anything for the drilling.

  • bobinpa.

    Who is to blame for the LEAK in the GULF??? Well, Who is?? If we drilled on land would we be worrying about the GULF now??

    • John

      The environmentalists are most responsible and to blame for us having to drill so deep for oil!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Here here, now dont go telling the truth like that. Youll offend the lefties in here.

  • Victor

    To order to save a few shekels an entire company may be lost! What happens if the relief wells don’t work and the oil cannot be stopped?
    What then BP? America should have learned her lesson back in 1974 with the Iran oil embargo…that was the time to get off the oil binge! There is more to this situation then anybody will ever know or hear about. I’m surprised they’re not blaming it all on the Muslims, illegal’s, or gays, which seems to be the norm in America these days!

    • American

      Dear, dear misguided Victor, we don’t throw accusations of blame on just anyone the way liberals do. We give credit where credit is due: We only blame Muslims for the terrorism found around the world (jihad – Koran says they must kill all infedels). We only blame the gays for the moral downfall of this country. And we only blame illegal immigrants for breaking the law by not coming here by legal means, for the number of rapes and murders shooting through the roof, for the vast increase of drug trafficking, for the cost of healthcare, education and welfare to skyrocket and for the loss of unold millions of jobs previously held by legalized and American-born citizens.

    • 45caliber

      We should get off the oil binge … you say. How? Do you have a ready solution? A solar energy plant or wind plant ready to take up the slack? A nuclear energy plant that can be put on line to shut down one running on oil? Cars ready to replace those already on the road that uses something else? No? Then take care of that problem and I’ll be willing to talk with you about our oil use.

      It does absolutely no good to insist we get off oil and then shoot down every solution someone suggests. Tell me, do you use electricity? Of course you do. You have a computer to stick silly stuff on this blog. Do you walk to the markets and to your job? Or do you take a vehicle? Do you ride a bicycle or ride a horse to visit relatives in another state? Aren’t you a little hypocritical?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      No Victor. The Muslims are to blame for the terrorist acts around the world. The gays are to blame for being immoral and spreading AIDS like wildfire, and the illegals are to blame for California being bankrupt, for rampant high crime in Southern California, Arizona and Texas, and millions of dollars spend for health care for their illegal young born here. Place blame where blame is due Victor. The Muslims, Gays, and Illegals didnt blow up this well, so quit blaming them for things they didnt do. Damn your hateful man.

      • Normal Guy

        Barbarian

        You are a pitiful hateful ignorant little man.

  • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

    lady b 12 tell me that when you find your Familly members and your Frinds Christion frinds Gone in the Middle of the Tribulation When they Refused to Take the Rfid Chip Known in Rev chpter 13:Ver,16 through 18 known as 666 or the mark of the beast then i Challenge you to read Rev:chp 7: versess 9 through 14.then read rev chp 20: verse,s 4 through 10 then if you have the Guts to Read 1 Corinthians chp 15: 22 through 28 to Know Whenabought when Jesus Comes Back Read Math Chp 24: verse,s27 through 31 After the Grate Tribulation. you will see Him Coming in the Clouds This is the only Way the Lord Will Return.so Keep Watch.

    • animal

      amen

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He will come like a thief in the night, when you least expect it, so be ready. The enemy is always on the prowl, seeking someone to devour.

  • jopa

    With the pressures involved 15-18000 psi I do’nt believe the relief wells will work.They have had luck in the past with this method but the pressures were 1200-1500 psi.Heres hoping.

    • marvin

      jopa a little fact salt water weight is 12 lps per gal add bentsonite[gel] and bayroid [weight materal] this is then around 16 to 18 lbs per gal or more at sea level plus size of pipe bigger pipe more volume more weight so what i am saying is at 15000 ft, bottom hole weight of fluid would be around 15 t0 20,000 lbs per s foot i may be off some but that is in the ball park and one more thing salt water will kill the gas and the gas is what is pushing the oil no gas no flow

  • Patricia James

    BLAME BUSH!!

    • Robert

      Hey, wasn’t he responsible for the recent earthquake in the Northeast? And he is also responsible for the Titanic sinking. He and Dick Cheney of course. And he’s also responsible for the bad call against the American Team in the World Soccer Tournament and let us not forget that he and VP Cheney are responsible for cancer. They created it while in office. How’s that for those liberal morons, did I forget anything?

      • Marc

        You forgot about how he held the Jews in bondage…. Thank you for finally admitting to those things. I will assume that’s it’s ok to quote you out-of-context other places on the internet.

        • DaveH

          Since when have Liberals requested license to misinform others?

        • momof4

          Marc, You really are sick!!! I feel sorry for you.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            And its definately his fault that Marc hates him, because he actually told the truth and did what he said he was going to do when he got elected, unlike this leper that is in office now.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You forgot Halliburton. They always use the trio, Bush/Cheney/Halliburton. Its all their fault. Its their fault that we lost a baseball season a few years ago. Its going to be Bush’s fault this year when LeBron leaves Cleveland. And I know its his fault that I didnt golf good last night. Doggone him.

  • Robert

    Bottom Line. Oil is still spewing out into the Gulf. We can all say what we want, but my attitude is PLUG THE FREAKING HOLE.

  • Terry Klassen

    This is our country and we have the right to know exactly what’s happening to our country especially when it’s having such disastrous effects! Every news story seems to be a distraction to keep us from knowing the truth.
    When someone runs into your car, you don’t throw them your keys and tell them to bring the car back when THEY get it fixed, YOU get it fixed as good as it was or better and send them the bill.
    Mr. President; you send the best minds from this country and throw in the greatest navy on earth (who we are paying for anyway)and you will look like a real leader and possibly a hero to your people.
    Let them honestly report to us daily on their progress so we all feel a part of this rescue effort(with pride).
    Not like a company that treats our land like a rental car.

    • Robert

      Bottom Line. PLUG THE FREAKING HOLE.

      • Claire

        Robert–AGREED!!

  • chuck b

    there’s something wrong going on in this country. barry soetoro is flat out refusing to stop the invasion of illegals, doing everything he can to ignore the worse environmental catastrophe in our history. doing everything he can to disarm us and spending our treasury out of existence. you don’t have to be a brain surgeon to figure out his administration is hell bent on destroying our way of life, he is giving us change.
    why has he ignored technical help from other countries? why has he refused to by pass the jones act in this time of emergency. one reason he has people surrounding him that want this country to fall so they can impose an ideology on us we may not appresiate. barry doesn’t have a clue,he’s nothing more than a distraction and mouth piece for the culprits.

  • coal miner
  • bobinpa.

    Why are we DRILLING in DEEP water in the GULF, and Why did This Kenyan National loan “Petro-Bra” {George Soros} 2 Billion dollars to Drill DEEP in the GULF. Would we be worrying about the Gulf of Mexico, and the Gulf States if we had drilled in ANWAR?? FACT: A Progressive and the American Constitution are NOT COMPATABLE.

  • marvin

    if odumbo were in charge oh you say he said he was in charge from day one of the oil spill, i know less blame bush, less see 30 days ago he was sending 1600 guards men to the border all without a gun [still not done]he said if we close the border we won,t get amnesty and 20 million more liberal voters,obummer said after i get i foot of bp neck i will kick someone ass, people i don,t know about you but i feel so much better this unamerican jackass his highness,the ruler of all bafunes is in charge, but we can still just blame bush

  • Wlmitch1

    Our out-of-touch radical-Leftist-dominated Congress and the Obama “Admistration” continue to wonder why there is so much opposition, angst, and teeth-gnashing by the American People. Government takeover of health care, government bailout and vitrual takeover of GM and Chrysler, Cap and Trade (TAX), stimulus packages which do not work, bailouts of financial institutions, the Disclose Act, backroom deals, “hate speech” legislation, unsustainable borrowing and spending, and others, against the will of the American People are the reason.

    To use an Obama-ism: Mr. Obama, please stop WEE-WEEing on the heads of the American People, and telling us that it is raining! You have gotten us, all WEE-WEED OFF!!

    WE know. It is simple. Each one of these legislative abominations strips us of more of our Liberty and prosperity. Your dictatorial arrogance not only frightens us, it infuriates us!

  • Yvan

    I have a hard time to nelieve that any presidents being Bush,or Obama would intentionally do things that would damage their own Country. But Maybe i’m too naive to understand all the political ramifications behind the scene. USA need oil, and USA has all kind of it but the extraction is no longer cheap. Say what you want, you can’t let the private enterprise regulate itself. On the other hand if government employees are corrupted you’re no better off. Capitlism doesn’t work neither is Communism. Any other option?.

    • American

      Capitalism worked here for more than 200 years. It is the increasing liberal stoppage of capitalism that has brought this country down to the level it is now, on the way to being a third-world country which, of course knows nothing of capitalism.

      • Yvan

        It has work for 5% of the population only. Look at yourself right now, are you fitly rich? If not it’s because you haven’t exploited you neighbor or you missed on raping this planet from its natural resources.

        • Raggs

          your a stinking cry-baby!

          How about if you get a job and support yourself and leave us the hell alone…loser!

          • Raggs

            reply meant 4 yvan… you know the one with a serious lack of intel.

        • DaveH

          Do you live like a Cuban, Yvan?
          Capitalism allowed this country to become the Wealthiest Country on this earth. We no longer have Free Markets, so expect that wealth to dissipate over time. Big Government has put our economy into the hands of the Rich with all their competition-stifling regulations. If you don’t like your position in life and want to improve it, then the best chance you have is to cut back on the size of Government thus removing the barriers that prevent you from becoming successful.

        • John

          I’m not rich but I sure am comfortable, as a result of my own hard work. Not somebody else’s.
          Can’t help it if your country’s dictators don’t take care of its own people. What makes you people think obama will take care of you?

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          You are misinformed. Im not in the top 5 percent, maybe not in the top 50 percent. I make 50 grand a year. Im set really good. Ive got everything I need. My only wish is that the government would quit taking so much from me, and quit giving so much to joe crack dealer on the corner, who wont go and get a real job. Im tired of paying for other peoples food and clothes and houses. Its time they got a job, and off the public dole, but its not going to stop, until they put an end to these stupid government handouts, enabling generation after generation to be sponges on society. Its a sad state. Get off the rich. They pay 80 percent or more of the taxes in this country. Piss them off enough and they will all leave, then maybe when you start ponying up a lot more, youll understand. Myself, Im smart enough to know that they pay too much. Ever have a poor man give you job? Did you? I didnt think so. Now stop being envious of those with money. Envy is a sin, or didnt you know that? With your attitude, probably not, because you probably dont believe in God either. How do you get out of bed each day with this doom and gloom attitude? It must suck being you.

    • 45caliber

      Capitalism is simply “I provide a product or service that you are willing to pay for.”

      If you don’t want it, I go broke and find something else to do. If you do want it, you buy it for what I paid to provide it plus enough for me to live on. If I can’t live on it, then I can’t provide it.

      Insisting that you should get what I provide for free or at a very low cost means I can’t live on it. If I’m lucky, you will buy enough that I can expand to sell to someone else also.

      That is how our country worked for 200 years. But then the government stepped in. They regulated how I must make the product; how much I must pay the people working for me; charge me a fee (tax) for telling me this; and then sets the price I can charge you below that cost to me. When I quit making it because I can’t afford to lose money I need to live on, everyone insists that capitalism doesn’t work.

      Actually it works very well as long as I can keep the government from sticking in its own finger.

      • Raggs

        yeah, well haven’t you noticed that the government sticks it’s finger in every pie it can… After they wipe thier ball’s and pick thier nose… thats how they infect everyone they give your money too.

      • DaveH

        The important point is that Capitalistic transactions are voluntary. Nobody in Free Markets has to purchase or sell anything they don’t want. In Free Enterprise, the consumer is king.
        In a regulated marketplace there is force involved on both sides. As an example, we can’t buy a prescription drug without a doctor’s permission. How cushy for the doctor. And in some states, you can’t sell your services as a hairdresser without the government’s permission (license). So they (Government) interfere with both your buying and selling decisions.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I do not know how anyone can possible knock down capitalism. It is where if youve got something good, and people want it, you have the right to sell it to them. If your product sucks, people have the right to say no thanks, and go somewhere else. That is freedom with a capital F my friend. How some can knock that, I just dont know. No one forces me to buy their product, and no one can force me to buy their product, well, other than when I was addicted to cigarettes, but then, I had all those brands to choose from, so it worked there also. But to knock capitalism, someone has to really hate their life and be in a dark sad place.

  • Annie Ladysmith

    Sorry, I don’t buy any of the [offensive word removed]. This was a planned diaster and the communist regeime in the District of Columbia are using it to push even more draconian laws which are anticonstitutional.

    What is it going to take for America to wake up? Every golf state should be declaring it’s independence now before it is too late. There will be no help from the JACKASS, no help from BP, the states effected would be better seceeding and getting help from other nations which the Jackass has forbidden.

    When are you prople going to wake up and call on your El Shaddai for salvation? You are the lost sheep and your total distruction is imminent if you don’t take heed, the time is indeed short.

    As the jobs and tourists dissapear you will be left weak and starving, your children will look like Biafra victims, you will go to FEMA camps and you will die there. Is it not worth a fight, it is the fight for the life of your kids and families.

    So far, no demands, no dissent, are you going to your graves without a wimper??

    • Marc

      Ah yes…. Those FEMA camps that were set up during the Reagan years…..
      http://uweb.txstate.edu/~lf14/conspire/rex84.html

      • JeffH

        …ah yes, those FEMA Camps weren’t under control of the DHS then either, were they?

        • Raggs

          I laugh at the FEMA camps…

          For me… they will never be able to throw me in a camp, not alive anyway.

  • ONTIME

    It’s taken 71 days for Barry to allow national help to ply the waters of the GULF and if that is called pragmatism then this guy needs to take speed reading classes and get his frigging ears cleaned out.

    BP is making a fool of themselves without any help and they will pay for this error in judgement both monetarily and in status, the boob we have to call a POTUS will remain a boob and it will cost us the tax payers a unfathomable amouNt of money just to let that incompetent idiot continue to make more illogical mistakes because he is psychologically a screwed up human being with a lot of bad childhood composed of cynical hatred.

    RE-PARE AMERICAS GOVERNMENTS

  • 45caliber

    Yvan: You said you can’t believe that any President, regardless of who it was, would ever endanger their own country.

    You are a very niave person. I only hope you are never forced to learn the hard lessons of life.

    Presidents are politicians; first, last, and always. As Sam Rayburn, once Speaker of the House, once said, they look at how a new law will affect them personally, then how it will affect their Party, then how it will affect their voters, then how it will affect their state, and finally … finally! … how it will affect the country.

    It is the wrong way to do things that affect all of us but they ALL do it!

    If it is expediant to destroy the economy of our country and bankrupt all of us just so long as they gain more money or political power, they will do it in a heartbeat.

  • bobinpa.

    Besides this mess going on in the Gulf thanks to our Lying Kenyan National Leader and his Band of Merry Anti-American Communist/Marxist Minions, another good topic to bring up for Public consumption would be the “VOTER INTIMIDATION” case that happened in Philadelphia during the 08 Elections. The Marxist Kenyans Justice Dept.under the Leadership of that Incompetent,Unqualified, Clown HOLDER dismissed the case, but it is OPENING up again. Isn’t the 3rd World Politics this Kenyan Progressive Communist Bunch has introduced to our Great Nation INTERESTING to say the least??

    • Raggs

      Yeah….

      I guess the rat’s out of the bag on this one and I hope it bites the panthers in the arse, not to mention holder!

      I’m also waiting to see the Bloga trial point in the same direction.

      So how much of this corruption do we need to see before we figure out obama is a (words removed for offensive content).

  • BonnieMW

    I am quite shocked that there was no plan in place for when such a disaster was to occur accidental or purposely. I am still not confident that this was not a terrorist even an inside terrorist act. At the least, we are sure this incident is being taken advantage of and made into a larger disaster than necessary by our administration.

    Accidents occur but allowing this gusher to continue for 70 days with-out in-acting every avenue possible to stop it and clean it up is not acceptable it is criminal. The idea of putting a moratorium on off-shore drilling in the US and not world wide defeats the
    so called agenda of the environmental conscious community. The US has stricter rules and regulations than any of these other countries that intend on exploring off-shore drilling.

    It is easy to see how quickly the President and BP get into bed together when it ends up being an advantage for both as the rest of our country suffers more. Their off in Brazil drilling for oil and making themselves rich as our country goes down the drain with more unemployed and a polluted gulf and higher fuel prices.

    • 45caliber

      I’m quite sure there was a plan even though no one has seen it. And it probably went something like this:

      1) if gas comes up the pipe, it will go to flare thanks to the various safety devices.

      2) there is a flame surpressor to prevent any flashback.

      3) there is a secondary flame surpressor in case the first one fails.

      4) there are several cutouts down the pipe to insure we can shut off everything.

      5) there is a automatic valve at the bottom that will close if all else fails.

      6) if even that fails, then we’ll bring in XXX to cap it

      7) we’ll bring in these various skimmers if anything leaks.

      EXCEPT – Oblama wouldn’t let them bring in all the equipment and people since it might upset his union friends.

      And WHY did all those safeties, etc. fail at the same time?????

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Because someone got into the program, and turned them all off. That is the only way they all failed at the same time. The only way, no ifs, ands, or butts about it.

  • BonnieMW

    I was told several times by many people that Obama had one agenda and that was to distroy this country from with-in. I was not just skeptical but flat out didn’t believe it. My eyes have been widely opened. Every person needs to be on the campaign trail and join your local Tea Party groups to get honest and conservative people in office
    so we can stop this insanity by November.

  • Raggs

    I’m going to tell you people something….

    I have heard for the past 2 years or B.O. before obama as the media wishes to call it, which is disgusting…

    Vote in November we can fix everything!
    I’m not naive nor stupid, predetermination.

    At this stage in our history with the elite left and right there is simply no insurance of trust. If you sleep with the snake you will get bitten.. I feel as if this country is on it’s head with a reason. The reason being to fundamentaly change the foundation and to overturn capitolism..

    In my view voting only changes the soliders and not the agenda!

    • Yvan

      Ragg – If I was you I would proof read what I post. I think that you’re foaming at the mouth a bit. Why don’t you run for President so we can see how intelligent you are.

      • chuck b

        yvan

        i’d be willing to bet “raggs” would make a far better president than the jerk sitting in the white house.

        • 45caliber

          I’ve got a feeling even Yvan would make a better one!!!

          • John

            Or one of the Three Stogges!

          • JeffH

            It’s obvious the Marx brothers are inept…Graucho Obama, Harpo Biden, Zeppo Pelosi and who could forget Gummo Holder and Chico Reid.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Heck man, Id vote for Norm before I would ever pull the Obama lever.

    • vicki

      Why would we want to overturn the one and only economic system dedicated to Free Will? In a pure free market no one is forced to buy or sell anything. All transactions occur between consenting people.

      Why is this not the best possible economic system available?

      • 45caliber

        Because only the buyer and seller control it. And control is the entire reason for politics.

  • animal

    this may be all propaganda and some will say im dumb for repeating it but to the theory of sabotage, i read that the red eye in the sky (soviet) tracked a n korean cargo ship enroute from cuba to where ever it was headed , deviated some 150 miles out of route putting it within 50 miles from the oil rig in question . now isnt n and s korea still at war… the ships manifest said it was carrying the 175th sniper battalion … and this was just a week or so after the s korean ship was sunk… and wasnt the rig built in or by s korea and the one guy on here said you cant blow it up a mile down by blowing it on the surface… hmm, sounds fishy to me but then again im not as up to speed like some of you on all this political b/s but i am starting to get very interested. i dont believe everything i read but i do believe in god gun and country ..it is so coincidental that this obozo deal is starting to sound like the anti- christ in the bible / all nice and polite the first go around then show his real agenda in the second. why is it so hard for those who have eyes and cannot see… i am so against this obamanation regime that i will stay above ground to vote in november but after that, his blue helmet census devision will have to look real hard to knock on my (trap)door and try to give me the chip or put me in a non-conformist enternment camp. they can kiss me where the good lord split me …to plagerize someone elses comment yesterday one executive order for mass amnesty will only lead to mass insurrection which will only lead to chaos anarchy and another executive order of marshall law, people the oil is a very big bad thing but it will be the least of your worries if obummer goes a second term.. dig your fox holes deep and aim just below the blue helmet… young texan living in az

    • 45caliber

      Someone the other day did some calculations. The oil from the leak is about the same volumn in the Gulf as a drop or two of oil in a full bathtub. Yeah, it can cause a small film on the surface but the rest of the water is fine.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Yes its a mess, and yes I agree it shouldnt have happened, as we should have been drilling on shore, but thanks to the enviro’s, we drilled in 5000′ of water. Now this leak, isnt all doom and gloom as the liberal press is presenting it. Sure it sucks, and sure it is a mess. But when this think finally gets capped off, and it will, the remaining oil will come ashore, we will clean it off, and its a done deal. Its not something that is this death to everything that the media is portraying. Its all going to be fine. We just need to stop the flow, and clean it up. Problem is, this wanker in charge is doing everything he can to prevent it from being stopped, and is interferring at every step with every effort we could me making to clean it up and stop it. Why, only his parties political agenda knows. But it is obvious, that he is part of the problem, not a part of the solution. Man I miss Bush.

    • 45caliber

      Incidently, make sure your hole is somewhere you can grow food, hunt, and fish. You will probably need to do it since I suspect food for sale will get scarce even for those with the chip.

      • Raggs

        Your an idiot!

        What or who would ever give you the right to think for me?

        The left leaches off of my being and you suck!

    • Anthony

      Animal -

      You are not dumb … I’ll go back and search for the Article, but it actually validates what you’ve heard with North & South Korea possibly being involved whether they know it or not officially. North Korea had figured that Obama would have two choices and since South Korea is who BP outsourced the construction of the Oil Rig to… well, NK figures since they ARE still at war, then all’s fair.

      I’ve also heard another story about this Oil Rig situation was rigged and that’s a Volcano Oil Well that they drilled into the side of, and it’s not nearly as disastrous as they are claiming….

      shtf411.com/bp-illusion-of-a-false-spill-t7065.html-sid=9966468cd2b6f4ccd311ae7000bb1674

      It’s probably the second wildest theory I’ve heard so far …
      But, what I do have a fairly good sense of — is that this is a False Flag Operation, plain and simple. [ You have Soros and others investing in PetraBrazil immediately before the Rig blows; then, you also have Banks here in this Country sold off their BP stock as well, right before the Rig blew. Add to that, the fact that Obama is refusing to allow Skimmers into the Gulf on the flimsiest of reasonings. This means they haven’t scoured PetraBrazil for enough profits yet, and they haven’t gotten the desired affect to all of the Coastal regions in the Gulf, like what they stole when Katrina happened. Remember when they took the land after Katrina … well they never gave it back – they sold it off to Bankers and such. That’s the real reason (one of them) that the Black Neighborhoods won’t be rebuilt as long as The Bankers are calling the shots. All along the Coast, there’s hundreds of poor folk all collecting welfare (mostly black) and they will be forced off their land, or dead from the toxic pollution now headed in their direction, in the very near future.

      All one has to do – is follow where the money could be made.
      As long as you keep putting that thought in the front of your brain, instead at the back, like it don’t count .. then you shouldn’t have too hard a time keeping up. If you write it off, then you will always be LATE FOR DINNER.

  • Anthony

    GCNLIVE.com Radio is on the air, right now, defining the real efficacy of what Obama is actually up to.

    Bottom Line? Obama has no intention of allowing the foreign oil skimmers (there are 6 now) to enter into the Gulf, and work to clean up this mess – which they can do…. UNTIL Obama gets his Cap & Trade Act passed.

    They are being VERY clear, with reasonings and websites to go read for PROOF, as well. They point out with clarity that Obama is nothng more than a puppet for the British (foreign?) Banking Community and Wall Street … stating the recently Obama actually said saving BP is good for both England and America… all the while, the immense transfer of wealth is ongoing, from the USA to England, as we speak. Remember those bailouts to foreign banks? Well, there ya go.

    The real dirt on this, and they do discuss it, is that those with all the real money also follow a Malthusian Philosophy that dictates the growth of food can never keep up with the birth of humands, so therefore, every so often, humans need to die off, to return to an acceptable balance ….. (think Georgia Guidestones).

    Thomas Malthus – is a person working for the East India Tea Companies (and the Rothschilds) who fought against the Revolution in America during the 1770′s.

    http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/malthus.html [ MUST READ ]

    What’s an acceptable level? Well, if you’re living with Billions in your Bank account – would you care? A lot of people posting right here? Probably not.

    American Agriculture has proven the Malthusian Philosophy completely wrong – but these Oligarchs could seriously care less. They discussed on the radio show how there was plenty of legislation in the 1960′s that can prove this. Not to mention plenty of the pro-chemical company legislation in the 1980′s (Monsanto, JD Searle, etc) which now allow these Companies to dictate what Farmers will grow and how much of it “they” decide should be grown. It just goes on and on.

    The Radio Show is also espousing how there is now plenty of proof that Obama can be impeached, as we speak. The problem is that it is up to The Speaker of the House to initiate this action.

    Also – go to LaRouchePAC.com to listen to several video casts discussing exactly what we’re discussing here. Anyone who is out to support Obama at this stage will scream “conspiracy” at every turn… I’m fairly certain they can’t wait for the methane clouds to float up into the northern midwest and then head weast with the coming wind patterns as Hurricane after Hurricane ruins thru the Gulf and Obama is DOING NOTHING… Think about and watch the air currents and the methane from the Oil spill being carried into your neighborhoods.

    They are calling this an E.L.E. – extinction level event.
    Remember the movie – DEEP IMPACT ?

    Why E.L.E.? Because this oil spill will change the habitation in the oceans – and THAT will change the very air we breathe. That’s how much affect our oceans have on our atmosphere. I wonder how many here actually thought of that.

    I’ll let you make up your own minds … I just post this so you have food for thought … you can (of course) skip right over what ANTHONY might have to say.

    • 45caliber

      The US alone, if left alone by the government, can grow enough food to feed the entire world with all expected population increases for the next hundred years or so. The problem is transportation.

      On the other hand, the more people there are, the less control you can have over them. Take Oblama for instance. How can he himself control you? He simply can’t – without others to help. But at some point you can’t get enough “others” to retain control. So the best thing to do is reduce the number you have to control. Many third world countries, particularly in Africa, do this all the time. And that is one reason they want to pass a UN treaty that bans civilian ownership of weapons. It is hard to thin your population when the population is shooting back at you. Reducing the population has another use as well. It gets the people too worried about being among those living when things calm down and it reduces the amount of people who might use up critical supplies (like food).

      • Yvan

        This is where you are wrong my friend. Your bloody gun will serve no purpose. With the technology today they can get writ of you and me in no time flat. You will die with your gun in your hand and will never have a chance to use it. When they come you better hide your piece of museum.

        • 45caliber

          At least I may get one shot off. It is better than living as a slave or being killed without making any attempt at all.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Thats right my friend. They can pry my dead finger off the trigger. If that is the way my Lord chooses for me to go, so be it, but I know he doesnt want me to be a pacifist and just give up.

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    To solve a problem first you must recognize it; that is difficult for the best minds in the world so how can a bunch of myth worshipers be critical? Science is not perfect…trial and arrow by scientific method however is the best we have. It has catapulted our lifestyle from the two hole’rs to flush toilets, electric lights and other amenities to our oil guzzling automobiles. All this in just my lifetime and still the world is full of believers in various primitive religions that pray to a god that may or may not exist. We worship a bible that tells us Gods real name is “Jealous” and he is a jealous God. Exodus 34:13. Anyone that can take this bible literarily as the truth rather than poetry and parable has to have a screw loose.

    That is not to say there is no god… science has gone a long way into understanding energy and thought; it is likely to be the same and may be god himself. Revelation, inspiration and discipline might well be god’s connection with man. More likely however it’s mans hunger for reorganization and greed for power and wealth that becomes the little voice in his ear.

    Only an open mind can reason and as Einstein said “I could find no authority so I had to become one” That seems strange to me because I have found an authority in almost ever shade tree mechanic I ever met; and it didn’t end there… every one seems to be looking for the chair of god… and a lot of red-necks act like they’ve found it; a beer in front of the TV in a lazy-boy.

    Now we have some very recognizable real problems; one’s in the Gulf right now and this post wants to blame Obama ; but not really; the conservatives who put out this hate sheet want to get back in power so as to continue the past eight year administrations destruction. It is quite likely they can sell that to the American people who are blind with hate.

    If we are going to fantasize I’ll tell you how to plug the hole. I think the entire Bush Administration that should have been impeached and prosecuted for war crimes could be used as stoppers to plug the hole. After all it was Chaney’s energy conference that trashed the safety regulations.

    To get real we likely have no experts more qualified than BP engineers to fix this problem; and someone has to coordinate the entire operation you can’t have everyone on it doing their thing. You can however have a team of the most qualified scientist/engineers looking at ideas the world might summit as solutions. This surely must be happening.

    • 45caliber

      If Cheney’s energy meeting trashed the regs, as you said, why didn’t Oblama put them back the way they were?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Because its easier for them to point the finger than to actually roll up their shirt sleeves and go to work, and think a little and be responsible. These guys have not taken responsibility for one thing they have done yet, and they never will. That is the way of the left, always point the finger, and always, without doubt, always blame someone else. They have done it since FDR.

    • chuck b

      if you would take the time and do a little investigation the mms agency overseas the safety requirements on the oil rigs, you blame the bush administration for the lack of oversight, when in all truth it is your dear leader barry’s admin. that failed. the rigs are required to have two fail safe devise “blind deep water ram shears”, your admin. didn’t check this little matter, they were too busy receiving gifts and entertainment from bp. they still don’t know if the device was in place or not and if there was a backup device which is required.
      your dear leader just this day has relented and allowed one foreign country to bring in a ship to help with the clean up and the epa has them tied up to a dock so they an ascertain if the ship floats, what a joke!! (this is day 71) it has taken all this time for that pea brain and his henchmen to make this decision
      barry soetor’s mental abilities stops at the edge of the basketball court. this a crime to our country and the worse environmental disaster of all time. and like i said before, they could stick barry down the casing to plug the hole, but he couldn’t get his ears past the opening.

    • Ken Roberts

      So answer me this why did Obama refuse help from 13 countries that has the expertise to stop it and clean it up, Obama has wasted 70 days or close to it . Bill Clinton even threw Obama under the bus. I see you also have a pretty good grasp on how Christian people think , it must be wonderful to be able to tell what our faith is and how stupid we are, I am sure you are revered in you little community . Remember this even Satan believes in God. It is a personal thing, nothing to do with collective power it is the power of one man or woman and their God. We are here but about 70 years so one should be looking at things that may last an eternity , because that is a long time . I will take my lumps with my screw loose any day .

    • Richard Pawley

      Come now, don’t be so critical. It is true that we have made some great strides in technology but men’s hearts have not changed much in a long time. I recall the fictionalized Darth Vader’s reply to the officer who was bragging about the power of the death star in the original movie, STAR WARS. “Don’t be so proud of this technological marvel you have created. It is insignificant to the power of the force!” When the officer made some comment about Darth Vader’s devotion to that ancient religion, he learned an almost fatal lesson. Of course Darth Vader had chosen the dark side and he was only a fictional character but he illustrates a point. All is not what it seems and there is more than most know. In the Epilogue of LEAVING SOUTH CAROLINA I wrote about something I heard when I was praising that ancient God in 2003 about the marvels of his physical creation. “There is much life in the Universe but it is very far away. Because of the ago old problem of good versus evil most civilizations that have reached the atomic age have destroyed themselves. The nearest sentient life is over 500 light years. The nearest life technologically equivalent to earth is over 1,000 light years. Mankind will never reach them, but they may, in the distant future (not in the lifetime of anyone now living) reach earth. They have become masters of space travel.” Frankly I felt blessed to hear this when I knew that far smarter men then I would have given anything to know it. It’s true that science is not perfect but science itself came out of the belief that God created the universe according to laws and principals that if these were studied we could better understand the universe, ourselves, and maybe even God. You would be amazed at the number of scientists who believe in or who believed in the God of the Bible. Who but God could have encoded the Hebrew Bible with all that has been discovered by the Isaac Newton Bible Code Research Society. Calling a religion primitive simply because it is old in years is doing a disservice to those like Einstein, whom you quoted. He was beginning to understand that time as we think of it is actually not linear or does not ultimately exist, anywhere but here in the physical dimension. That is why Isaiah could say, “Who ever heard of such a thing, a nation born in a day?” thousands of years before May 15, 1948, when the nation of the Bible, gone for millennia was suddenly brought back to life in a single day. It had never happened before in all of human history. Another thing you say is unfortunately true. Many do worship the bible rather than God who inspired the bible. You wrote “We worship a bible that tells us Gods real name is “Jealous” and he is a jealous God.” Exodus 34:13. Well my 1599 Geneva Bible (the same one the pilgrims used) has that as 34:14 and the words are in brackets although no explanation is given as to why. What I do know is that God is not jealous in himself. He is jealous FOR US! He considers us His treasure, the greatest of His physical creation and what is more important He loves us, but each must discover that for himself or herself. As you point out we do have a serious problem with the oil spill but no one is blaming the president for the spill, we are blaming him for not allowing those who could help, to help. A ship that can in two days remove as much oil from the ocean as Obama has authorized in the past 70 days sits at dock in Virginia! Nero fiddled someone wrote, and Obama takes it up in committee. The president is more interested cleaning up the mess if it will help him pass his crippling American Energy Act (Cap and Trade Tax) that will cripple the US populace and make billionaires out of those who are behind it (many are already billionaires but in their greed and avarice want even more). Congress is to blame too because they won’t pressure Obama to accept help. “He wants us to look like fools in the eyes of the world” say some, while others think he is terrified of making a decision on his own. No matter that 200,000 more will lose their jobs. Bush or Clinton would have accepted help in April and the mess would be far less by now. Of course, Obama will be replaced in 30 months but we must not wait. Only if we vote intelligently in November and replace most of Congress will we survive. We won’t go down the tubes immediately but it will eventually be far worse if we don’t replace Congress with new people who still believe in “We the People” and who are not sold out to the 36,000 lobbyists in DC. I feel sorry for you that you think “American people are blind with hate.” I’ve lived here since I was born and I can’t think of a single person I know who is filled with hate. I know there are some pretty vicious people along the border who are cutting off heads and such like but they aren’t Americans anyway. Oh, I just thought of perhaps one, and that is the quasi-Christian preacher in Obama’s former church. He surely come close to hating the white race (based on what he says). If you want things to change for the better you have just one last chance and that is in November, four months from now. Pay not attention to the government press or what Congress or the President says but do your homework and vote wisely in November. It is NOVEMBER OR NEVER. May God bless America and those who love freedom, no one else is going to do so.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I would truly like to be a fly on the wall, when you get your chance to stand in front of Jesus to give an account of yourself on judgment day and see you tell Him He is a myth. Wow. Im sure glad Im not going to be standing in your shoes on that day. But He is a loving God. He will tell you very sadly, that since you never wanted to hear His name, or be bothered by Him, that He will now grant you the wishes of your heart, and send you to a place where He will never ever bother you, and you will never ever hear His name again. And all of God’s people said, Amen.

  • Yvan

    Lighterknot – It’s refreshing to read a good post once a while. Very rare on this blog.

    • John

      Now I understand why they call you people left-wingers. Because you’re so far out in left field your not even in the ballpark.

      Your rationale is amazing. You have no sense of logic whatsoever.

    • JeffH

      Yvan, it is said that like minds think the alike…that says volumes about your thought process….

      • momof4

        JeffH,
        It just kills me how Libs always think they are so smart but Romans 1:22 says it all “Claiming to be wise they became fools.”

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Youll get your chance to tell Jesus He doesnt exist also. Good luck with that pal.

  • Raggs

    A little is worth it’s weight, alot is worth it’s promise.

    Neither I find in obama.

  • PC Bob

    Had Enough?

    Remember November.

    • momof4

      Can’t wait!!!!!!!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He did say change, didnt he? By 2012 when his worthless butt is voted out, change is all Im probably going to have left.

  • animal

    With this BP Gusher, we have an added issue. We know that clean-up (wrong word) workers
    are reporting symptoms of nausea, headaches, heart palpitations and worse. Independent
    health experts say this is a consequence of exposure to benzene fumes. (BP says it’s food
    poisoning from eating a bad lunch).
    Current government testing for “Volatile Organic Compounds” (i.e., toxins in the air)
    apparently does not include a test for benzene fumes. Purely an oversight, no doubt?
    Therefore, officials can say they have detected no gases in the air at life-threatening levels
    without even addressing the issues associated with benzene.
    Benzene is heavier than air. Yet it too – along with whatever is out-gassed from that toxic
    Corexit “dispersant” – can no doubt be picked up by an ill wind which we can be assured will
    blow nobody any good. So what is it about Corexit (which doesn’t)?
    “Oil in the environment is toxic at 11 PPM (parts per million). Corexit 9500 is toxic at only 2.61
    PPM. But Corexit 9500 has another precarious characteristic; it’s reaction to warm water.
    “As the water in the Gulf of Mexico heats up, Corexit 9500 goes through a molecular
    transition. It changes from a liquid to a gas, ( and is explosive ) which is readily absorbed by
    clouds and released as toxic rain. The chemical-laden rain then falls on crops, reservoirs,
    animals and of course, people. ”
    Under this scenario, once again millions of people are at risk – especially if they choose to
    stay around the Gulf of Mexico coastline and tough it out – at least until their state or the
    federal government suddenly decides on a mass evacuation program.
    Further afield, as the hurricane season progresses through to November, oil will be well up
    the East Coast, so any storm coming in from the Atlantic will affect that area as well. Living
    within 20 miles of the ocean (some say within 200 miles) is therefore not a very good
    situation to be in as far as this scenario is concerned.

    • Raggs

      OK so your an idiot… I’m not impressed.

  • Ken Roberts

    So many posts here it is hard to read them all. but I think the idea is to get cap an trade passed and to make much money off of the backs of working Americans . This has smelled of thuggery from the beginning and it is smelling more and more that way . it is a crime that is taking place in the oval office . We did make it through Carter but this is totally a set aside money for future elections and pleasure for the elites . the working class will go into the poverty class and stay there if we can not change the direction of this country this November, if we fail we will see two classes of people the elites and the slaves , think about that if you are thinking of staying home and not vote.Go vote and do not vote for the democrats I know we won’t weed all of them out but we will still have a super majority of we don’t vote straight republican ticket. A third party vote will only insure we keep the thugs we have now . Do not let them split the vote, it is an old trick used since the beginning of politics.

    • Richard Pawley

      What you say is true for Presidential elections. Only those approved by “the big people” are even allowed the chance to run, but this is not true in most state elections. While it’s true that at least one multi-multimillionaire homosexual has used his money in the past to undermine state candidates who never knew what hit them (when it was thought they would not support the ‘gay agenda’) this was before The Tea Party even existed. I think that such people, gay or straight, will be more interested in saving the country this time. No one will live well under a Hugo Chevez type of socialism or even the old Russian style. The Tea Party is not a separate party, it is composed of blacks and white, old and young, Republican and Democrat, Independent and Libertarian, gay and straight, rich and poor, and all who like the freedom that the founding fathers gave us when they gave us the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Those who hate freedom and believe we would be better off if we were under a dictator and impoverished like the rest of the world, well those are the people we need to get rid of in November. Don’t worry about the 2012 election until 2012. The one at hand will change things for better or worse, more than even the one in 2012 when Obama will be blamed just as he is blaming Bush. In both cases, however, it was Congress who voted to go along with more rules, restrictions, unnecessary laws and taxes and so much more that does not benefit a free society. If you want to be slaves for a generation or two keep things going the way they are. The debt and deficit is going to cost every person reading this a big chunk of their life or future life or their children’s lives. I know many cannot believe me when I tell them that food and fuel will eventually triple in price but that is just based on what Congress has already spent. If they don’t stop it or get sent home then you are simply not going to believe what this spending of money we must borrow or print is going to do to us and our country. We need a new Congress or at least 80% new. We must get rid of the deadwood and it doesn’t matter what label they have. Those who want us to pay $7 a gallon for fuel (just like the European socialists) and who want us to have enforced poverty on all must be kicked out of office. Americans are not taught well either about their history or how things really work. Just make sure the record of those you vote for can be verified. Vote for those who think being an American is something special, desirable, those who love their country and not those who hate it. It is NOVEMBER OR NEVER.

  • Raggs

    I cannot believe some of you buy into this crap of global warming. I retract that comment…. Stupid is as stupid does.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Fact is, statistics by actual geological scientists show the planet has cooled since the 1970′s. I guess Al Gore lied again.

  • mehoward

    11Chronicles 7:8 IF MY PEOPLE,WHICH ARE CALLED BY MY NAME,SHALL HUMBLE THEMSELVES,AND PRAY, AND SEEK MY FACE, AND TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS; THEN WILL I HEAR FROM HEAVEN, AND WILL FORGIVE THEIR SIN, AND WILL HEAL THEIR LAND. THANK YOU JESUS

    MEHPENSACOLA,FL

  • animal

    wow thank you roberts, pawley, and mehoward i feel like i just did about 4 years of poly-sci and theology and i couldnt agree with you more

  • JeffH

    Has anybody noticed how ole Slick Willie keeps showing his face and running his mouth…I think there might be some trouble brewing in Paradise at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave…between the Hatfields(Clintons) and McCoys(Obama Admin.)…has anybody got a handle on a possible rift between the two?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      JeffH., Im sure youve read my past posts, and I said it a long time ago, that these same democrats, will throw Obama under the bus by the 2012 election and run Hillary. I said it then, and Ill still say it. Obama is un-electable, and they know it. The only thing holding them back is the thought of losing the black vote, since for some reason the black community keeps voting for them, despite the fact that the democrats have never done anything for them, other than to appease them with words. I still think they will throw him under the bus, and run Hillary. Watch and see.

      • JeffH

        Berboni, you’re right and I couldn’t agree with you more. Hillary is far more dangerous than Obama, if that’s possible, because she is a seasoned “snake in the grass” with all of her and the Slickster’s connectons.

  • Bruce

    Thesame thing happened off the coast of mexico in gulf of mexico in the 70′S and that was in 600 ft of water and it still took 6 months to stop the oil

  • ashforkdan

    willie was impeached i think hes trying to help barry to get out quick there on to us

  • http://herringtons.home.mindspring.com lighterknot

    Well excuse me; I would have sworn after scanning this thread and others by Mr. Livingston that you LOVING Christens are ready to hang liberals as communist from the nearest trees. I guess that’s not hate then enlighten me – what is it? I don’t think it’s Christine… pseudo yes.

    I resent being classified under ether party but I have to go with the progressives over those with their head in the sands. I know that both parties are bought and paid for by the oligarchy – interesting that The Bush’s are long time members. I don’t know about Obama and I don’t have time for a lot of research. I don’t think he belongs to The Black Nobility…maybe he dose now that he’s President.

    And I have no doubt that there’s other life in the universe, I hope it’s intelligent; maybe it will come risqué us after our wonderful paradise has become a living hell from our reckless CAPITALIST behavior. And don’t tell me we have a FREEMARKET.

    • JeffH

      The usual dose of a Roswellian diatribe…take another trip to the see…always searching for sunken treasures…

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      We do have a free market, until the democrats get in the way and start giving billions to GM and Chrysler and screw things up. This government interference is what screws things up. Let the free market alone, and it will control itself, and the people will control it by buying from whom they please, without government interference. But when you start bailing out places like this, and giving unfair advantages to some because of their race, color, or creed, then the free market system isnt a free market anymore. Get the government out of it, and it becomes as it should be.

    • coal miner
  • ROSEBUD

    RE: WHY DID OBAMA REFUSE HELP FROM OTHER COUNTRIES? PLAIN & SIMPLE, HE IS BEHOLDEN TO THE UNIONS & NON-UNION SHIPS OR BOATS CANNOT BE USED TO WORK IN THE GULF WATERS WITHOUT WAVING THE JONES ACT, WHICH HE HAS REFUSED TO DO. I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW ANY PRESIDENT CAN BE SO REMOTE & COWTOW TO UNIONS WHEN HIS COUNTRY IS BEING DESTROYED BY A SO-CALLED ACCIDENT & HAS DONE NOTHING BUT BLAME BP WHEN THEY ARE BEHOLDEN TO HIM AS WELL. IT’S ALL A CHARADE! JUST LIKE THE WALL ST. BLAME GAME. WE KNOW IT WASN’T WALL ST. WHO CREATED THE FINANCIAL MESS, IT WAS A DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT, BILL CLINTON WHO SIGNED THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT TO GIVE LOANS TO THE POOR MINORITIES BY FORCING THE FED TO LOWER CREDIT STANDARDS & THE DEMONCRATS IN CONGRESS HAVE PUSHED THIS FOR THE PAST 17 YEARS WHILE IGNORING GEORGE BUSH’S WARNINGS TO REIN IN FANNIE MAE & FREDDIE MAC 17 TIMES. WHEN THE LOANS DEFAULTED THEY THE WERE FIRST TO FAIL & BAIL. CONGRESS CONTINUES THE PRACTICE TODAY & FANNIE & FREDDIE ARE IN NEED OF ANOTHER BAILOUT. THEY SHOULD FAIL BECAUSE THE DEMONCRATS IN CONGRESS WILL BLEED THE TAXPAYERS FOREVER BAILING THEM OUT. BP IS IN THE GAME WITH OBAMA FOR CAP & TRADE & WROTE 80% OF THE BILL. THEY ARE TOTALLY INVOLVED IN THE SCHEME & I DON’T BELIEVE THIS WAS AN ACCIDENT AT ALL. REMEMBER THAT BP STANDS FOR “BEYOND PETROLEUM”. OBLAMO DOES NOTHING HE DOESN’T PROFIT FROM. HE IS DEEPLY I NVESTED IN CCX AS WELL.

  • Dora

    It would not surprise me if this was a deliberate ACT by the White House so he could push Cap and Trade. Obama is doing everything he can to abolish the capitalist system in America and bring in his Marxist agenda. The sooner every American wakes up the better it will be and I hope they wake up before it is too late for this country. We must vote out the 89 Socialist in Congress. I have 89 of their names and pictures of some and the list was pulled from Socialist Democrats of America and the Progressive Caucus list (a communist organization) before they took the membership off the net. Some of them on the list are Ed Pastor, Lynn Woolsey, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Lee, Pete Stark, Henry Waxman, Maxine Waters, Bob Filner, Diana DeGette, Eleanor Holmes Norton, Corrine Brown, Alcee Hastings, Neil Abercrombie, Bobby Rush, Jesse Jackson, Jr., Luis Gutierrez (the one pushing amnesty)Danny Davis, John Olver, James mcGovern, Barney Frank, John Tierney, Michael Capuano, Lynn Rivers, John Conyers, Major Owens, Nydia Velazquez, Charles Rangel, Maurice Hinchey, Marcy Kaptur, Dennis Kucinich, Sherrod Brown, Peter DeFazio, Chaka Fattah, William Coyne, Sheila Jackson Lee, Bobby Scott, Bernard Sandars, James McDermott and Tammy Baldwin. I hope everybody reading this will write their names down and circulate it all over the United States and let us VOTE out those traitors.

    • Denniso

      You’ve lost any reasoning ability you may have had…

      Myers says that Obama is shifting the blame to BP? Who was drilling the well? BP or Obama? Accidental or negligent, BP is at fault…the other companies involved will share the financial burden as well. If there are politicians to blame along w/ the companies,it’s Cheny and Bush,who relaxed regulations on the oil industry. Obama failed to clean up the corruption that was installed by Cheny at the MMS quickly enough and should have reviewed all operations there and stiffened regulations sooner…but Obama did not set into action all the failed policy that led to this accident.

  • Normal Guy

    What a Pack of delusional conspiracy theorists, you right wing dopes are all completely separated from reality. BP had inadequate preparation for this level of failure; clearly the regulations regarding development and reaction to disaster were and are inadequate.

    If this kind of disaster is a possibility, this blowout, and a separate pipe can relieve the pressure but it takes months to drill perhaps there should be a requirement that both are drilled to assure there is an option to stop the blowout? Whatever it costs to have everything in place the company doing the work is responsible.

    You guys want no government but you want to blame government when a disaster occurs and they don’t have the resources or systems to resolve the problem. How would you suggest that the government fund this action, should they tax the oil industry more? What would you suggest the government do? Create an oil industry shadow industry to resolve the the oil industries problems. You people are beyond chicken little’s everything that happens has to be twisted to fit your bizzarro world image.

    I am discouraged for our country, if the idiots and simpletons, on this thread are any indication of the level of paranoia; ignorance and mythology that are common then rationality and reality don’t stand a chance. You are pathetic.

    • Denniso

      Good comment…it is discouraging isn’t it? My hope is that these people represent only a tiny fringe of deluded and hateful people trying all they can do to wreck the country.

      Hi Coal Miner, happy Fourth to all sane and rational people.

      • coal miner

        Denniso,

        Hi, don’t let these nuts get to you.I think they are amusing.Happy fourth of July.

  • coal miner

    mama.indstate.edu/users/nizrael/jesusrefutation.html · Cached page

  • coal miner

    Attention,

    paganizingfaithofyeshua.netfirms.com/comparison_of_sungods_with_life_of_jc_concerned.htm

  • coal miner
  • Loves God

    So few get the REAL picture. Well planned events are taking place to bring our wonderful country down. The fewer people who have jobs the more will they be at government’s “mercy”. Prepare yourself! The economy is going to crash – it’s just a matter of WHEN! Do you REALLY think Obama cares about us? He’s no more American than Osama (Obama)Bin Ladin! It’s time to get on one’s knees and beg God for mercy!

  • Off The Wall

    BP happens to be the flagship company of the infamous ‘Committee of Three Hundred’. This ‘one world order business think tank’ has an agenda that we have seen being enacted in Washington DC. Although this one world agenda is not new the committee of three hundred is a twenteth century invention of the international financiers to control and steer all major busines’s in alignment with the agenda.

    Former president George Herbert Bush has mentioned the committee of three hundred in a couple of his speeches. Although I do believe that he was the first president to do this it is evedence that the two party system has almost totally sold out to the internationalist elitist controllers. We need to get a grip on this ountry’s foundations by throwing all the bums out and getting back to priciples like ‘One Nation Under God with liberty and justice for All’and government of the people, by the people and for the people instead of the few!

    I could be Off The Wall but I knoe that I am right on target

  • Mitch Beales

    I’m not sure where some who post here get their facts but it appears there is plenty of blame to go around. According to the Houston Chronicle:

    Among the regulatory decisions at the center of this political storm:

    • • The 2003 decision by the Interior Department’s Mineral Management Service that remote-control shut-off switches would not be required as a last resort against underwater spills.

    • • The MMS’s failure to suggest other “fail-safe” mechanisms after a 2004 report raised questions about the reliability of the remote-control devices.

    • • A waiver granted by the Interior Department to BP last year exempting the company from a detailed environmental analysis, concluding the spill risk in that part of the Gulf was “minimal or nonexistent.”

    • • A regulatory mindset during the George W. Bush administration that Democrats say weakened federal oversight of domestic energy producers and encouraged voluntary compliance and adoption of “best practices.”

    • • The 1990 decision by Congress to cap economic damages at $75 million in the wake of the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill.

    As best I can tell the main failure of the Obama administration was waiving an environmental impact study 2 months after he took office. It appears that this was a continuation of the MMS policy in place during the Bush administration. This says to me that the current administration should probably have paid more attention to the “ecos and greenies” not less. I know there are those who believe that Obama walks on water but it seems unrealistic to expect that he could change policy at this level within 2 months of taking office while also trying to fight 2 wars and rescue the country from total economic collapse.

    I would be interested in knowing where Dan Burke read that Louisiana approved the drilling for shallower water. It appears from the Wikipedia entry the the entire Macondo Prospect is in deep water. I was also under the impression that the states had no say in drilling as far from shore as this. Of all the conspiracy theories posted above the “punishment by God” theory seems the most likely since BP’s first attempt to drill this well was thwarted by Hurricane Ida’s damage to the Transocean Marianas drilling rig.

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