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Palin Urges Tea Party Activists To Join Either GOP Or The Democrats

February 25, 2010 by  

Palin urges Tea Party activists to join either GOP or the Democrats In a recent speech, former Alaska governor and unofficial leader of the Tea Party nation, Sarah Palin, called on its activists to join forces with one of the established political parties to boost their electoral chances in November.

Palin pointed out that since independents are such an important part of the movement and "we have a two-party system, they’re going to have to pick a party and run one or the other: ‘R’ or ‘D’," quoted by CBS.

The former vice presidential candidate’s call may appear surprising, because when she addressed the first national Tea Party convention earlier this month, she praised its decentralized nature and said it consisted of "real people, not politicos, inside-the-beltway professionals."

However, it seems that at least some members of the anti-establishment movement may be receptive to her new message. According to The Daily Citizen, a newspaper in Georgia, local Tea Party organizers hope to recruit conservative Democrats.

"We need to reach out to Democrats," said Naomi Swanson, an organizer of area chapters, quoted by the news provider. "And you know what? I think they’re ready. So let’s put that on our list."
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  • Harold Olsen

    Tea Partiers should not affiliate themselves with EITHER party. I think they should remain independent of them and put forth their own candidates and support them in every way possible. If one of the parties puts up a candidate that follows the Constitution and has the values that the Tea Partiers believe in, then, by all means, support that candidate. But, I think there are enough Tea Partiers, and I consider myself one even though I have never attended one–yet, that we could give the Republicrats and the Democans a run for their money. I think Palin is wrong on this, if she actually said it. Since it comes from CBS, I find it questionable. We need to be our own voice and that voice has to be a LOUD voice.

    • kevin d.

      I agree,
      Why in the world would we join a party when evil has so infiltrated both regimes that nothing good can come from either side at this stage of the game. I think all the good people in both parties should join the teabaggers, and let the 2 monsters keep blaming problems on each other while we actually grab the bull by the horns and turn this country around.
      Sarah once upon a time use to ring the bell of liberty.

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      Make the three fold here!

    • http://www.cafepress.com/TradThoughts UnPCdMom

      The last thing we need to do is JOIN one of these two party systems. BOTH are plagued by self absorbed politico’s who care only for their own pocketbooks and POWER.

      Its time to DO AWAY with the two party system and do it quickly because states like Washington (Pacific NW not DC) are already making it impossible to run or win if you arent part of the two party system. They are eliminating INDEPENDENT thoughts and votes. At Primary’s you must “pick a party’ to get a ballot and they either have or are pushing for ONLY the top 2 vote getters regardless of party go forward to the GENERAL ELECTION…so they can push 2 Dems (less likely 2 REP) as they are part of the Left coast mentality! King, Pierce and Clark counties alone seem to nulify the rest of the states more conservative opinions.

      ACORN was active in registering homeless, dead, and cartoon charactors and massive voter fraud affected the last two govenor races!!!

      Isn’t always amazing how ‘ballots found in areas they were never supposed to be in” or “ballots accidentally left in some poll watchers car trunk” ALWAYS push the race to the Dems?

      NOW they are trying to make ALL ELECTIONS ‘vote by mail’ and that will only increase the amount of fraud possible and reduce the amount of necessary oversight.

      I think we all NEED to reform the Voter’s registration process at all levels and develop a National database where each vote can be checke dto see if the person only voted ONCE and we need to be issued a new card that states if you are a legal citizen, possibly has a picture ID or thumbprint on it also! Some form of scanning the secrecy envelope and instead of signature on it a thumb print so a database can throw out additional votes. IT should be one the envelop not the ballot itself so we all still have the right not to be tracked by who we vote for but we are all protected in knowing that each valid voter can only vote ONCE…

    • J C

      Palin is wrong. Boycott the same old, same old…

      • Claire

        J C—Yes, Palin is wrong. I read the headline on this link and thought “What the.” I thought the tea parties were supposed to be totally independent of either party. Grassroots?? Or this tells me they are worried about the people voting for a third party!! I think Palin and her friends think the Americans will believe everything they say, same with the Dems. This to me is an eye-opener if she did say this.

        • JC

          If she did say this Claire, I’m very disappointed. But then again…I can’t remember a politician in my life time who didn’t lie, cheat and cajole their way into office only to break all promises and show their true colors once seated.
          I guess we’re still down to throw them (almost) all out.

          • denniso

            Calm down folks…it looks like Palin isn’t as shallow as I thought. She at least knows that 3rd parties never win in out 2 party system,so she’s trying to do you a favor and have your vote and effort count…so am I.

          • Claire

            JC–I know. It is so dang aggravating. One minute a person thinks oh, this guy/gal sounds real good but in the end something always comes out. The game of politics stinks.

          • Claire

            denniso–Nope, don’t trust her. She leans towards the Repubs-RINOS now?? And besides, how do you know a third party won’t pull it off? Sure, we can have our doubts but the people are so disillusioned with everything that who knows–it would really be something if a third party candidate pulled off the Presidency and other offices. Maybe this is what the Repubs and the Dems need. They need to wake up and be realistic. But then again, none of them would work together. It would be like it is now.

          • Claire

            JC—the truth shall prevail. True colors always come to the forefront. Eventually, hopefully before they are elected.

          • JC

            Claire, what we’re probably seeing from Palin now is the indoctrination process in action. Somewhere she is being seen as a possible contender for big league politics so she has been given the ground rules. This, in my opinion is what happens to every politician when we elect them and why their promises and platforms become meaningless after they are elected. If they want to play in “this” sandbox they will conform the the two party system and abide by the process already in place. The very process that so desperately needs to be abolished. Lobbying, Criminal Tax Regimes, Foreign Interventions, Bastardizing our Constitution, Social Engineering, Domestic Spying…
            All are anathema to a free, productive and liberated society.
            If Palin is in fact beginning to play that game, then she has just thrown her own credibilty into the toilet.

          • Claire

            JC–What you have said is very true. Like you said, if she does follow this path, her credibility will go down the drain. I hope she is smarter than that. It will be interesting to watch and see what happens this year. This year, we may very well find out about all of the politicians. For the sake of America, I hope and pray the true character of any and all politicians that run for office will come to the forefront. It may be quite an eye-opener. I will certainly do my research.

    • Richard Pawley

      You have to remember that Sarah Palin is basically outside the political corruption the IS Washington DC, politics. That is why they fear her so. In “The Last Days of The Late Great United States” written as if it is in the future looking back, I said that even President Palin could not stem the corruption of the system so entrenched had it become. The label of Democrat or Republican means little today, only the difference on how the money we borrow is spent. Whether a third party is truly possible may depend on how many people actually show up in Washington DC at the mass rally in August. The Progressives in power ignored the million plus that were there last year, perhaps 5,000,000 would get their attention.

    • Richard Pawley

      It is three in the afternoon and I have still not been able to verify on the Internet that there is any truth in what Sarah Palin is supposed to say. Sadly, I think that the bought-and-sold media will do anything, say anything (as long as they can’t be sued) to discredit anyone who stands against Socialism or Progressivm. Having read all the responses I’m convinced this is probably an early attempt by the Progressives to muddy the waters. The only thing I have found saying anything like this is a liberal outfit that claims Palin wants Tea Party Activists to join the Republican party:
      http://www.politicususa.com/en/sarah-palin-urges-tea-party-to-join-republican-party

    • Richard Pawley

      The complete address did not come across and you may have to type it in manually.

      http://www.politicususa.com/en/sarah-palin-urges-
      tea-party-to-join-republican-party

    • Cel

      No, Harold,

      Palin is not wrong, I agree with her.
      As a “Tea Party” (fair tax) member….you do know that it is a “fair tax” group of people, don’t you ???
      In any case, she is right. and as a voting Republican I stand with them. and she does also.
      The Republicans just drifted away with the spending, that is all. I guess I have been guilty at times myself. Did that change my core beliefs ? No…..

      When I look at the Democrat party, I could never go that road, even if I approved of their leader….which I do not.

      On this day …choose whom you will serve and do so……..I have.

      ***

  • Karen Dixon

    Heck no! Having the 2 major parties is one the reasons this country’s government is falling apart. I say that the only way to bring people together, and have them vote their conscious, and for what their constituents want is to have a NON-PARTY System……then it’s not US vs THEM……boy the lobbyist won’t know what to do. Decentralization is key here. Focus on that. Ignore party lines, and don’t vote for someone because of their party affiliations but because of what they believe in

    • JuliBMe

      You guys advocating for a third party need a dose of reality. NO ONE is perfect, therefore, no PARTY is perfect. However, in the real world, who wins the White House? A Republican or Democrat. No third party will EVER do that in this country. You cannot convince enough people who vote to vote for a third party. So, we go with reality and what CAN be achieved. What is that? Which party is more Constitutional and which is more Marxist? So, you Libertarian and Conservatives party members must take over the party that is closest to your beliefs and ensure the PEOPLE (imperfect as they are) who are voted in are in a party that can win and the closest representative to your beliefs. Concentrating all your energies on a losing third party is ensuring the country loses. So, all your talk of “I won’t vote for an imperfect person” will play right into the Marxists hands. They count on that. Will your conscience be assuaged when the Marxist takes away your access to the internet and all other alternative media?

      • usmadgirl

        JuliBMe,

        Well said!

  • http://rclinton@crgelectric.com Robert Clinton

    I wish I had the answer to replacing all of congress that is the only way we can get the govermet back to the people. I have made the tea parties and am not sure what impack they will have on the next election

    • Cel

      Robert, when your representatives and Senators come up for election, vote them out………..

      We are cleaning our state up………

  • dLegend

    The reason why all these are happening is BECOZ….
    The honest Citizens are Fed-Up with all the Bull-S******g by the
    2 Parties !
    THERE’S NOTHING GOOD ABT THESE 2 PARTIES NOW….
    THEY’RE OUT OF THEIR PERSPECTIVES & FILLED WITH LIES !!!
    THAT’S WHY THE ‘TEA PARTIERS’ APPEARED…..

    NOW COMES THIS LADY TELLING SOMETHING WHICH IS ‘UNBECOMING’….
    Either, She has been made ‘dociled’ by people behind-the-scenes…
    OR….
    SHE IS ‘Off’ & inconsistent with her push….

    SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT & I HOPE CBS IS WRONG !?
    I Agree with Harold Olsen’s comments….
    WHY SHOULD WE BE ENCOURAGED TO JOIN EITHER PARTY WHICH HAVE PROVEN
    TO BE USELESS but BRING MORE HARDSHIPS FOR ALL HARD-WORKING
    AMERICANS…???
    AMERICA NEEDS A 3rd-PARTY NOW….AN HONEST LEADER WITH INDEPENDENT
    THINKING IN SOLVING THE COUNTRY & PEOPLE’S NEEDS….
    WE DON’T NEED ANYMORE GOOD TALKERS THAT GET FAT-SALARY & CAN’T WALK
    THEIR TALK…ALWAYS LYING AWAY & RUINING THE COUNTRY !!!

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      This primarily is because the Progressive(Marxist) movement, which is 2/3 Democratic Party and about a 1/4 Republican Party have taken over our Government! Will it be permanent? Yes, if the progressive movement is not overturned this November, our freedom & liberty are gone forever!
      The Progressives have systematically allowed people with progressive ideology (by the way same ideology taught in our school system for over 100 years, which I didn’t buy and it seems that most of you didn’t either). We beat this movement back once in American history, but that was before the invasion of immigrants looking for a totalitarian type government like the countries that they left, so it’s going to even harder this time to stop!

      • Richard Pawley

        I agree with Victor Barney that the election in November will be the most important in 50 years. If Progressives, Democrat or Republican remain in power this November, freedom as we know it will certainly take a change for the worse. Already they have caused what will result in at least 200% plus more inflation in food and fuel and all imported goods (but not houses) probably not this year but it’s coming and it could be. The breakdown in society that Socialists have desired for 150 years and even the elimination of private property may well result if prices double within a few weeks or a month. I hope I’m wrong but learn all you can about the candidates and vote in November. Believers can pray and that will help too. Just remember that Independents can be independent and may not vote just the way you would. Still if they are independent they will have to be better than 3/4 of the Democrats and maybe a 1/3 of the Republicans.

  • JR

    The tea parties formed because both major parties have been taken over by special interests, both pushed for bigger and more intrusive government, and have ignored the Constitution (with it’s limitations on government and foreign involvements).

    My feeling is what we want and need are conservative constitutionalists. Yes two major parties have controlled but there are others out there. In reference to Democrat or Republican, the label doesn’t matter…take Ron Paul or Michelle Bachman, they are both great choices. I’m sure there are Democratic labeled conservation/constitutionalists out there also and they need to step forward and make themselves known.

    But becoming loyal to one or the other party has been in the past destructive, so if these political parties want us behind them they will have to prove their intent and earn our trust…we are tired of being misled and manipulated.

    • Cel

      The independents went with the Democrats the last time……

      They chose the wrong party.

      **

    • Arkham Grundy

      There are plenty of smart conservatives. Sadly, Bachman is not one of them. She is not only dull herself; she is the cause of dullness in others. She rarely opens her mouth without subtracting from the cause of conservative thought.

      • usmadgirl

        Arkham,

        What Michelle Bachmann have YOU been listening to? She is one of the most truly conservative politicians in the country!

  • Tsmith

    I agree, if Palin actually said this and CBS isn’t twisting it, she’s wrong. The whole idea behind the Tea Party is an independent majority of voters who are fed up with BOTH sides and party line voting.

    I’ve voted conservatively every time I had the chance, which isn’t much seeing as I’m only 27 but the lesser of two evils isn’t good for America. Repubs and Dems need to pull their heads out of their politically career minded backsides and realize we’re fed up with their LIES. The word “spin” is just spin for lies. Political correctness only serves to weaken and disarm political opposition of valid points. We need to get back to reality in America and realize we’re not doing ourselves any favors by giving 3rd, 4th, and 5th chances to these snakes in office taking advantage of us and of the system.

    I say if the Republicans even care about what their core values and ethics used to be, they need to wise up and listen.

    Glenn Beck 4 Prez!

    • Joe H.

      I want all of you to tell me who you want to run for president and vice pres. Really, ALL of you! Tell me who you want to run!!!

      • TIME

        Joe, I voted for Ron Paul, I knew he did not stand a chance as the media really had ZERO / ZIP / Nada / to say about Mr. Paul, strange? Not at all.
        Why, we know Barry was the pick of the Media / Press litter.

        • DaveH

          Time,
          I was working on a temporary position in Kentucky, staying in a hotel during the time on the primaries. The lobby TV always was tuned to a MSM channel. Up until the Republican Primaries were settled, McCain’s face was on the TV constantly. Then after he had won the primaries, he virtually disappeared from the set. From then on, it was mostly Obama and Clinton. The MSM had gotten what they wanted – the most Liberal candidate for the Republican Party.
          I hope people can think for themselves on the next election, instead of letting the MSM steer them by the nose.

          • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

            Dave;
            Why didn’t you change the #@!%$% damn channel for them?

          • DaveH

            Lol. I should have, but I don’t mess with other peoples’ property, unlike the Liberals.

        • Joe H.

          I’m talking about the NEXT presidential election!!!

          • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

            Ron Paul and any “Constitutionalist”
            Ron Paul and any other Libertarian
            Ron Paul and Palin
            Ron Paul and Huckabee
            Ron Paul and the most conservative person he can find.
            Ron Paul and Joe H.
            Ron Paul and Dave H.
            Ron Paul and Jeff H.
            Ron Paul and J C
            Ron Paul and any conservative poster on here would be more qualified that B.O. and Biden.
            Ron Paul and ANYBODY he would choose for his v.p. AS LONG AS HE COULD GARNER 55 TO 60 MILLION VOTES AND WIN!! Otherwise I will vote for the most conservative man/woman who CAN win from the two major parties. Split votes to a third party will just give us 4 more years of Barack Hussein Osama!

          • DaveH

            Worrying about split votes have given us Obama (after 30 years of back and forth).
            I tried to convince people in 1980 to vote Libertarian after the Carter mess. And surprise, surprise, they all whined about splitting the vote, possibly giving Carter another win. I tried to convince them that a Carter win (if it did occur) would blow our economy to smithereens and get people off that Liberal thinking once and for all. Of course, they didn’t listen. So Reagan got elected, who turned out to be a great President who did have the right ideas (mostly Libertarian). However, he lacked the support of his own party to get the real job done in cutting back Government.
            So now, here we are 40 years later with Government bigger than ever thanks to both Democrats and Republicans. And you guys want to keep trying the same thing while Hoping and Dreaming that this time it will work. Give me a break guys. I’ve only got 20 years left if I’m lucky. Let me die a free man. Pleeeaaaase?

          • L, USA

            Governor to AR, Mike Huckabee. He knows what the Clintons did to Arkansas and it werent pretty. Another thing, he hasnt sided with the demos, but R-Paul did at least one vote last year. Give him whoever he wants for VP and ride!

          • JC

            Thank you for the honorable mention Stephaan.

      • J C

        Ron or Rand Paul.

      • Meteorlady

        Ron Paul for President – I vote for him when he runs. As for VP – Cornyn from Texas.

        • Claire

          Meteorlady– I agree- I will also vote for Ron Paul. I was a bit unhappy with the earmark stuff, but I will still vote for him in a heartbeat.

          • Claire

            MSNBC interviewed Ron Paul one morning this week. It was a good interview and MSNBC was really nice to him, I thought.

          • Joe H.

            DaveH,
            Up to now it’s all the same, but I would be willing to bet if you asked 100 “conservatives” who they would vote for you will get at least ten different answers. Do you get what I’m trying to get at now?

          • JC

            Joe I’ve enjoyed your experiment and the results. And yes I do see what you are getting at. We should be galvanized behind one leader who will “change” things back the way we want.
            (sounds familiar somehow)
            So I’ll go back to my thought as a Libertarian…
            we need to hire professional administrators as opposed to electing scum bag politicians to administer (not govern) a republic (not a democracy).
            Sometimes things need to be shaken up very badly for “positive” change to happen.
            Vote third party and let the chips fall…lock n load if necessary.
            At least that’s what the original Americans had the courage to do.
            But adherence to the same old sytem is not only insane…it’s chickens*it.
            Have a good day my friend.

          • DaveH

            Joe,
            I got what you were trying to get at about 10 comments ago. Imagine if an athlete thought like you guys do? They would never achieve anything because they always have to suffer failures before they achieve greatness.

          • http://www.ccrkba.org Dartanian

            JC,
            Vote 3rd party and let the chips fall? That suicidal JC, and we’ll end up with four more years of OBAMA and this country won’t survive! That’s what JUST happened in Nov.08, and why we have 2 dung chips for prez. and v.p. until 2012. You want to give that moron another 4 years to bankrupt this country? That ignorant fool has already raised the deficit 9 trillion in his 1st year.

            Dave H,
            Is obama being in the white house NOW, one of those FAILURES YOU SPEAK OF? That failure is on YOU GUYS AND YOUR SPLIT VOTES Dave!
            If Ron could get 50-55 million pledge votes it would be a different story, but you’re never going to convince enough people to waste their votes and end up with FOUR MORE YEARS OF OBAMA with your circular phase of logic.
            Dave, apparently you’ve got longer than I do. I DON’T WANT TO SEE OBAMA IN THERE 3 YEARS FROM NOW, so I’m NOT GOING TO WASTE MY VOTE ON A 3RD PARTY CANDIDATE WHO CAN’T POSSIBLY WIN and JUST GIVE THE PRESIDENCY TO OBAMA for 4 more years!

          • JC

            Dartanian, you’re allowed your opinion and I respect that. I take the view however that voting the same old way will give us the same old thing. For example I didn’t like Bush and I don’t believe we’d have been much better off under McCain. So which Republican do we vote for is it that won’t just be “Obama Lite”. The pattern of hamster wheel voting has got to stop somehwere.

          • DaveH

            Dartanian,
            You will get what you deserve probably. But I don’t deserve it. I’ve put up with 40 years of my adulthood being wrecked by the Big Government mess that the Republicans have been complicit in creating.
            I vote for the best candidates. The ones who don’t presume to know what’s best for each individual’s life. If you want to throw away your vote on more of the same old thing, I can’t stop you. But I vote on principle. I will never vote for the lesser of two evils. So, save your lectures, they are falling on deaf ears.

          • Joe H.

            DaveH,
            What I take from your answer, you would rather see this nation fall and be destroyed beyond repair than vote for the lesser of two evils?
            I don’t know for sure that voting for a third party candidate will split the vote enough to re-elect Obummer, but I do know that this country can not take another four years of Obummer!!!! We have to beat him in the next election no matter who runs unless they are exactly just like him!!!! We must not, We can not, We dare not let him beat us in the next election!!! I still prefer the quote by Mark Twain ” patriotism is defending your country all the time, your government when it is earned”!!!

          • AnhydrousBob

            JoeH,
            If we are really successful in Congress, the President wont be an issue. Here is the point that you are missing from many of us, forget the parties – vote for the most constitutional leaning candidate you can find and if everyone did so we would not be in this pickle.

          • Joe H.

            Bob,
            And you, my friend don’t get what I’m saying. I will vote for anyone that will defeat Obummer as this country may not hold up under another four years of him!! Hell, it may not survive THIS four years. I will not purposely let this happen by voting for a third party member unless they show me that they have a good chance of winning, I love this country too much to do that!!!

      • usmadgirl

        Joe H,

        You KNOW who I want – Duncan Hunter!!! I wrote “American Thinker” last night about him. I read an article on “AT” saying that Fred Thompson is the mirror reflection of Reagan. He doesn’t NEED the money & doesn’t need politics to be successful, he’s a true conservative, he’s a great speaker & communicator… Well, you can read it @ the site below. I love Fred, but he just lost his “fire” in the debates in 2008. He had the spirit before & after the campaign, but not during!

        I told them to please consider Duncan. I told them that the people were looking for a Reagan Conservative last election, had one right before their eyes & couldn’t see the forest for the trees. I doubt if they’ll publish it, but I just wanted to give them a candidate to think about!

        Also, in this article about Sarah, it said that some Georgia Tea Party was “reaching out to Conservative Democrats”! Isn’t that an oxymoron? A conservative democrat would be a REPUBLICAN! There ARE no conservative democrats (other than Zell Miller & I don’t know why he kept hanging with the Dems)!

        http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/why_not_nominate_the_next_reag.html

        • Joe H.

          USmadgirl,
          I definatly agree about Duncan Hunter. Fred, i don’t kn ow. I think he was another reason McCain got the nod!!!! Had he made up his mind soon enough he might have gotten the nod and we wouldn’t be talking about Obummer now!!! as far as the conservative dems, I guess anything is possible. We have Rinos that are basically liberals in republican clothes!!!

  • Conservative Carl

    Sarah Palin is as wrong on this topic as she is on endorsing John McCain. The Taxed Enough Already (TEA)activists do not need to join either of these two parties. Remain independent or consider other parties such as Constitution and Libertarian. While the Republican Party may be the better of the major parties they still have burdened us with taxes and excessive spending to only a lesser degree than the Democrats. G.W. Bush through TARP gave Billions to Wall Street bankers and mortgage houses and GM and Chrysler. A great waste of taxpayer money. Then Obama comes along and gives even more to the whole crowd and points back to George Bush for all the problems. Both are guilty. GM and Chrysler should have been allowed to file for bankruptcy and then tried to reorganize. That would allowed them room to renegotiate contracts with the UAW to cut costs or to just close the plants.
    I remember that back in the late 70s or early 80s the Big Three urged the government to put tariffs on imported cars because they couldn’t compete. The federal government did so and increased the cost to consumers of Japanese cars. What did the Detroit automakers then do? Of course, they increased the price of their cars.
    Neither of these two parties are really concerned about balancing the budget and it seems some legislators we consider as conservatives still love to fill the pork barrel for their home states.

    • Joe H.

      Carl,
      I do remember the big three asking for tariffs but I don’t remember them getting them. Might be my old age but I seem to remember someone saying it would be the same as protectionism.
      About ten years ago, maybe longer, I remember Japan tryingt to put a tarriff on girlscout cookies that were bound for the sailors and soldiers there. A big enough stink was raised that they finally withdrew their complaint!!!

      • JC

        Protectionism kills production and free trade….just like the Free trade agreement kills free trade. It lines the pockets of those who are “connected” and has been doing so since Alexander Hamilton.

        • Joe H.

          JC,
          I know what it does, I just don’t remember them getting the tarriffs. Might be my old mind.

  • http://YAHOO ALBA10

    This is just another way of telling us to put our independant ideas on the back burner, accept what is available and work with what “they” give us. I don’t think soooo. We need the Tea Party to remain an independant voice for the people. It’s long past time for the silent majority to wake up and speak up and demand that those who receive our tax dollars listen to the people and follow the people’s agenda, not their own that’s already a part of the political wheel that’s way out of control.

    • William Nealey

      ALBA10 you are soooo right. and the day the tea party throws in with either party that is the end of the tea party. we need to suport the men women with the best ideas for the good of the country,

  • William Nealey

    this is where I disagree with Sarah. the tea party needs to hold both parties feet to the fire and only suport what either party comes up with that is good for the country, I will only vote for the person whos Ideas I like and think are good for the country. right now I dont know of a democrat that I can vote for, and few republicans,

  • David

    I agree with her!
    If they(the Dems.) succeed in dividing us we loose and thats what Obama trying to do with the meeting today.

    • DaveH

      We lose if people do listen to her. Both major parties have gotten too comfortable in their leadership positions. It is time we mutiny and choose leaders who will cut the size of government dramatically, lower our taxes, and let the Marketplace do what it does best – Please customers.
      I have been listening to that same tired mantra of “don’t split the vote” for 40 years of my adult life, and what has it gotten us? Just Bigger Government is all. I realize that many of the Republicans have now gotten the Conservative Religion, but they only got it when they saw their jobs were going to be at stake. Are we going to let them get away with that?

      There is only one Party that understands true Freedom. The government has no place in preventing us from harming ourselves. In true Freedom, we choose what’s best for our bodies and our property as long as we don’t trespass on the bodies and property of others. The government should exist only to protect us from the force of others.
      Voluntary contracts should rule the country, not forced contracts initiated by Big Government.
      If you want Individual Freedom (which comes with Individual Responsibility), Free Markets, and Limited Government, then the Libertarian Party is the answer:
      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      • L, USA

        Ronald Reagan was wise enough to run with Republican Party right into the White House and give us the tremendous wave of prosperity and freedom. This hope is possible with the grass roots vote than some of us have sacrificed personal comforts and oppurtunities for personal gain, to raise up. Let your lives be counted for what you may give, not what you may receive.

        • L, USA

          Ronald Reagan was wise enough to run for President of The United States of America with Republican Party; and right into the White House and give us the tremendous wave of prosperity and freedom. This hope is possible with the grass roots vote (responsible for G.W.Bush 2 terms, saveing us from John Kerry and Albert Gore Jr.) that some of we conservative Republicans (I speak for myself) have sacrificed personal comforts and oppurtunities for personal gain, to raise up. Let your lives be counted for what you may give, not what you may receive. The Tea Party Act citizanry MUST COMPLETE the Grand Old Party! http://www.gop.gov

      • Joe H.

        DaveH,
        I will say one thing, if the TEA party came out in support of Paul, I would vote for him in a heart beat, because I would know he had the support to defeat Obummer! I doubt that will happen though, so I guess it’s a moot point!

    • Meteorlady

      I’m going to give my “No Vote is Wasted” speech. If you keep voting for the same two parties you loose. If you vote for someone else you win. The media has brainwashed us for years into believing that you split votes. NO VOTE IS WASTED, EVER! We need to get out of that mindset and get on with electing qualified, honest people to do the job we sent them to Washington to do.

      • Joe H.

        Meteorlady,
        anyother election I would agree with you!! this election, however, is very different. We can not take another four years of Obummer. Do you have any Idea where our freedoms will go under him if the people allow him to be re-elected? that will tell him the people have mandated him to what ever he wishes to do no matter the slim margin he wins by. You think he is dangerous now? Let him get re-elected and he will be hell on wheels! We will be forever screwed with no future to depend on to get us out of it!!

        • DaveH

          Please Joe. If I had a dollar for every time over the last 40 years that I’ve heard how important it was to not split the votes this next election, I would be able to take my lady out to a fancy dinner.

        • DaveH

          And Joe, if you and your fellow Republicans had done the work to keep out the Bob Doles and the John McCains we wouldn’t be in this mess now.

          • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

            Dave H;
            Mc Rino is from YOUR STATE, not Joes or mine. It was YOUR job to keep that mutt OUT! ;-)

          • DaveH

            It’s not my fault that people keep wasting their votes on Republicans.

          • Unbiased Observer

            KAMAKAZI LIBERTARIANS… WAKE UP!!

            THE LIBERAL SOCIALISTS, & FASCISTS laugh all the way to the white house every time YOU KAMAKAZI LIBERTARIANS WASTE YOUR 5 OR 6 MILLION VOTES ON A THIRD PARTY!
            Get RON PAUL nominated on the repub. ticket and he will win hands down, period, end of story!

            THAT SHOULD BE YOUR JOB FOR THE NEXT 3 YEARS,( Dave H., JC, Stephaan, meteorlady, and others) GET HIM ON THE REPUBLICAN TICKET, AND STOP TRYING TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO WASTE THEIR VOTES ON A 3RD PARTY CAND. YOU’LL JUST END UP GIVING OBAMA ANOTHER 4 YEARS TO PHUCK UP, SCREW UP THIS COUNTRY!! IT’S NOT THE LAME LIBERAL MEDIA CONVINCING PEOPLE ABOUT THE SPLIT VOTES! IT’S SIMPLE MATH AND FACTS!

            On the repub. ticket RON PAUL would get all the conservative repub, dem, and independant votes because there is nobody stronger, but running on a 3rd party ticket, & with the small Libertarian base, all he does is get frickin liberal socialists elected to the w. house.

            You guys are smart. I can tell by the way you post on here that you’re an intelligent group, but trying to get people to waste their votes on 3rd party candidates, is just like lying to them to try and forward your agenda! You know it’s B.S.
            You would do much more good if you went to work and did everything you can to get him on the repub. ticket, and you know that.

          • DaveH

            Our votes are wasted if we vote for candidates that don’t really represent our ideals. And please quit YELLING. I rarely bother to read statements that are all or mostly CAPS.

          • Joe H.

            DaveH,
            I thought you said there are no wasted votes?! If we vote republican they are wasted, if we vote libertarian they aren’t???

          • Meteorlady

            Unbiased Observer: Ron Paul was on the Republic agenda for candidate selection. He was given very little publicity, very little air time, and was not deemed as a person that would fall in line and march step to the Republican Party agenda. They give us a hand selected lackey to vote for because that’s what they need to do to keep the power base in their hands.

        • Meteorlady

          I still believe that “no vote is wasted”. You are wrong if you think we will divide our votes and Obama will get re-elected. I think he is too far gone in the polls to do that. If the Republicans are smart, they would run someone new and different – Thunes from SD comes to mind. Leave alone Palin as she is a media darling and may have a following but it’s not big enough. If the Republican run someone good I would maybe switch, but I reserve my vote to see what happens. If I get someone like McCain again, I most certainly am voting third party.

      • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

        SPLIT VOTES to third party candidates is why we have Obama in the white house NOW! This country can’t afford a second term of this socialist idiot! 3rd party split votes aren’t so bad in the primaries, but in the general election they are a complete waste if the 3rd party candidate can’t get 55 to 60 million votes, and if he/she isn’t on the repub/dem. ticket they won’t get more then 5 or 6 million, never have, never will!

        • George E.

          Agreed. That’s just reality. If Ron Paul wins the Republican primary for President, I’ll vote for him. Otherwise, I’ll just vote for the best of the top two. I wasted my vote for Ross Perot, and all that got us was Bill Clinton. In hindsight, I’d rather had George Bush Sr. even though he wasn’t perfect. He would have been much, much better than Bill Clinton, in my opinion. I’ll never waste my vote again.

          • Joe H.

            George,
            thats’s what I’m trying to say. Vote for whomever you want in the primaries. When it comes down to the nitty Gritty I will vote for the man that will assure the removal of Obummer!!! We can not risk another four yearsm of his spending tactics nor his socialistic methods!!! If we get in a conservative all the better, if not we start right from the get-go to let him and our reps know that the last guy was a one hit wonder and so will he be if he doesn’t work for us. WE WLL BE WATCHING!!!

        • DaveH

          We have Obama in office now, because it was difficult to distiguish between George Bush and a Democrat when it came to fiscal responsibility. That and the wasted wars he had kept us in for 8 years. We should have gone in, bombed the hell out of all Afghani areas that were supporting terrorist training, and then get out. Teach them that they are going to pay a high price for messing with us. No Nation-Building. We aren’t going to change those fanatics. People have been trying for centuries to change them.
          We aren’t going to change the Republican Party either. They are just as pro-Big-Government as are the Democrats. They just have a different agenda to spend our Money and Freedom on.

          • Claire

            DaveH–Once again, I will agree with you concerning the Bush and Obama policies. When a person gets down to the nitty gritty, Obama has kept a number of policies that are identical to what Bush promoted. Obama even kept some of the people from the Bush administration.

          • Joe H.

            DaveH,
            I watched areas in Vietnam get bombed day after day and the next day aircraft would get shot down. there are areas along the Afghan/Pakistan border that you could bomb for months on end and never kill an insurgent hiding there. I hate the fact, but it is a fact that sometimes the only way to take out the enemy is to go in and find them. The most important thing we have to do is take off those rediculous rules of engagement. They can’t fire unless they have a weapon in their hands! Bull! What about the ones that lure them into an ambush? What about the ones that are wrapped with explosives??? If they are in an area that is hot then shoot first and sort out later!

  • Betty H

    A third party at this point only insures that the democrats will win as in the case when Perot ran. None of the three got a majority of 50%. If they would have a run-off of the top two, that would be more acceptable but apparently that is the case. The republican platform is much more according to constitutional principals. I am so happy with the tea party people that many of them want less government spending which means smaller government, less taxes, and less intruision into our lives. Originally the senators were elected by the state legislators so they couldn’t by-pass the states. The house directly represents the people. We need to repeal the 17th amendment. And we should also repeal the 16th amendment.

    • William Nealey

      you are right Betty. I am not for running anyone as a tea party candidate, that would play rite in to the dems hand just as ross perott did as I said befor the tea party needs to suport the man-woman with the best ideas for the good of the people no matter which party. I am an independent and I vote for the man-woman I think will do the best job for America. as I told my Senator they work for you and me not obama and we pay their overinflated salaries,

      • Pat R

        I think CBS has it wrong and is only trying to start more rife among the public who are already FED-UP!
        If I remember correctly, Sarah is only stating what so many has said in their posts. (Choose whomever adheres to our TEA PARTY beliefs and standards whether they be Republicans or Democrats.)
        The more the media stirs the s–t, the bigger the stink!
        Stay true to our Constitutional beliefs, and only vote for the candidates who swear to abide by the TeaParty Contract which will be revealed in its entirety in April!

    • DaveH

      We’ve been hoping that the GOP would lead us to smaller government, lower taxes, and more freedom for many decades now. Quit hoping and dreaming. It isn’t going to happen.
      Look at the two recent elections. One where the Republican Dede Scozzofava actually threw her support to the Democrat. And the other which elected Scott Brown to great fanfare as proof that the new movement was working, just to have Scott show his true colors in the recent Jobs Bill vote.
      When are you die-hard Republicans going to get the message? The Republican Party no longer represents your ideals. They are leaders, just like the Democrat leaders, who like their money, power, and perks, and aren’t going to give them up easily.
      Both Parties have been complicit in the growth of ever-larger Government. We need to break the mold and start over!

      • Joe H.

        DaveH,
        I say if those people don’t call, write, E-mail to let Brown know he screwed up and they are well aware of it, that if he goes against the wishes of the majority of the people again he will be out next time he comes up for re-election, then they have just who they deserve!!!!

    • Meteorlady

      You are doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Bull… take some initiative and join another party. If that party gets enough members then the new media will have to stop ignoring it.

    • Cel

      Betty you are right, and I do not want a Democrat in the White House again….When I look at Pelosi and Reid….I want to puke.

      A third party would just give them another term and we would suffer for it.

      I think we should wait and see who is going to be running for the Republican party and if they have gone back to the conservative values, which I believe they have, then support them.

      As I have said…I am a member of the “fair tax”…or as Nancy call us “redneck tea baggers”….and I stand with the Republicans.

      Yes, I am sure the Democrats hate that thought, but they are the party that will reflect my values.

      ***

      • DaveH

        The Republicans gave them the First Term of Obama. So what’s your point? We need people who can get us back to the freedom that our Founders tried to guarantee for us. Unfortunately, the Founders couldn’t guarantee that we would think for ourselves.

        • Joe H.

          DaveH,
          Actually it was the independents more so than the republicans that voted Obummer in!!! They are now disillusioned with him now but what I’ve seen not enough to vote third party!! Like i said, If I thought paul could garner the support, I would vote for him in a heart beat!!! but I will not sell our nation down the progressive river to vote third party!!!

  • Doc Sarvis

    The conservative leaning Supreme Court has made it a lot harder for a third party to gain power.

    • DaveH

      How is that Doc?

    • Meteorlady

      Yes, ditto… how is that?

      • Doc Sarvis

        Mid-January decision on Citizens United vs. FEC.

      • Doc Sarvis
        • DaveH

          That decision was the correct one Doc. The Supreme Court was established as a balancing power to make sure the other two branches of government didn’t run over the Constitution. They aren’t there to make their own pet interpretations as the Activist Judges want to.
          We have Freedom of Speech and that includes those of us who run Corporations, or Unions (unfortunately). If you can’t make your own decisions and blindly follow sound bites, that is your problem.
          It takes a lot of money and exposure for a new candidate to unseat an incumbent. The so-called Campaign Finance Reforms would be better named the Incumbent Entrenchment Acts.

          • Doc Sarvis

            We have Freedom of Speech as citizens; you, me, and individuals who are heads of corporations. Corportations are not individuals and should not be allowed (with their enormous financial resources) to act as individuals in running our country.

          • DaveH

            Breaking news Doc. Corporations are composed of Individuals, as is Big Government. Just everyday people who could be the neighbor next door or the relative or friend that you argue politics with. They (the Government individuals) are not qualified to make my life-decisions.
            And by the way, Doc, show me where in the Constitution does it say the right of free speech only applies to individual people?

          • DaveH

            I suppose that next Doc will be arguing that individuals are the only ones guaranteed rights in the Constitution, so therefore Married Couples have no rights.

          • L, USA

            DaveH, While my view concerning corporation status as a single entity for the purposes of campaign finance, your statement here; ["The Free Market, and the voluntary contracts that go with it, has no equal when it comes to best determining which salary and benefits are most desirable to individuals."] has inspired me to understand that the rudimentory basis is double-jepordy ,in that, this is a group of people who have double voteing rights and thus ‘veto’ powers in dealing with government policies and directives. This is un-Constituional in spirit and goes against the Powers of the States Over the Federal (government). Not to mention that the ‘lead’ CEO has sway (by virtue of his position) over the vote!

  • Jeff

    I’m reluctant to believe the “quote” from CBS is accurate, at least in context. I assert that people should verify thru audio/visual means that Palin actually spoke these words. If so, then she has driven a nail in the coffin of her aspirations to become a part of a living and breathing movement of political rebirth in America. If not, then the mainstream needs to be “Called-Out” on the mis-quote. Tea Party Movement was not started to eventually conform with the rest… And uniquely enough, should the “Party” begin to, “The People” will NOT! I believe the very name “Tea Party” refers to the act of dumping Europes tea into the Boston Harbor due to the monopoly, corruption and leveraged imbalance of power over the colonies. Our tea prices went up, but then again…. Wasn’t the Tea Party about a Helluva lot more than Tea back then as well? Take the “Tea Party Movement” from the people— You know what that leaves “We The People” with in regards to choices …. RIGHT!!!!!!!?

    • William Nealey

      Jeff as a rule of thumb I discount anythin I hear from the alphabet channels. they are all left leanining. or as Bernie says the lame stream media,you can’t put any stock in anything they say,

    • michael

      But if Fake er I mean Fox news said it then you would believe it right. Get real

      • Strawberry Shortcake

        Michael, what is it with people like you? Is it going to take the worst of all these moronic decisions by our government to smack you in the face? Will you get it then or are you one of those with your hands out? In either case, unless you have a lot of money the path your on isn’t taking you anywhere dude. “Get real” you say? What exactly is your reality? You think your government cares about you? You think it’s a fair mentality that some can bust their asses to take care of those that make the choice not to? How you think that’s gonna work when those that DO bust their asses decide, it just isn’t worth it anymore? I mean hell, if you can sit around with your hands out and get our money then we can too right? Or you also one of those that think all that money is coming from “Obama’s stash”? In your own words…”get real”. Mama ever told you money don’t grow on trees? Guess what…it doesn’t. The only entitlement anyone deserves are those that are given from the heart f

        • DaveH

          He could be one of those $70000/year Government employees who earn their money by harassing the productive people in the private sector.

          • Meteorlady

            Actually I believe that Michael does have a government job, unless he lied to me.

          • Meteorlady

            Which brings up another question – Michael are you answering and writing away on this site on my taxpayer dollars? Or are you at home on sick leave or work nights?

          • michael

            In the state that I live College instructors are considered state employee’s and get the same benefits as other state employee’s However if you must know I make a little over 32k a year.

          • Joe H.

            michael,
            you didn’t answer the ladys question. Are you posting on OUR time OR YOURS????? If you are a professor you work days and as it is class time you should either working on your classes papers, your lecture, or at least doing something connected to your class. Of course you might have chosen the career you did expressly so you could slack off during work hours like you do! Remember, those as can do, those as can’t teach!!!!

          • DaveH

            Don’t just give us your raw 9 months salary Michael. What does it cost total for the government to employ you? I’m talking all benefits plus your salary? It certainly isn’t 32K.

          • eyeswideopen

            DaveH, are you also going to reveal what you do and how much you make? I doubt it, but you want to know all about Michael don’t you? He didn’t have to tell you any personal information, but he gave you a little bit, and you acted like the government by demanding more info. What professions are acceptable to you and your cronies? Sounds like you only approve of someone who works for big corporations or themselves. From your previous comments, those who work in jobs with unions, (police, fireman, steel workers, coal miners, medical) are not acceptable. Those who work in any government position, either state or federal (code enforcement, country commissioners, police, fireman, military) are not acceptable. Who is acceptable in your world?

          • DaveH

            I agree, Michael should not have revealed anything personal. I don’t believe Liberals anyway, so it really accomplished nothing with me.
            I made the mistake of revealing personal things, and the board Harpy has followed me around since trying to use them against me.
            Your Poor Husband.

          • eyeswideopen

            DaveH, I am interested in knowing what jobs you think are acceptable?

          • Meteorlady

            Sorry Michael – I didn’t care about what you made. But being a teacher would certainly lead me to believe that you are a liberal because most teachers are.

            I believe that teachers are the most underpaid, overworked people in our society, but I also believe they have a responsibility to teach both sides of an issue. The children that I talk to when I work for a local charity all have been indoctrinated into believing that the world owes them a living. When asked if they intend to go to college they are not very responsive about the issue. They don’t believe strongly that education gets them where they need to go in life and thus have been short changed by the educational system. Most figure they will end up collecting working a menial job and collecting on social services to stretch their incomes.

            I think your answer are for the most part thoughtful, but you really need to get out and view other ideas before jumping on the socialism bandwagon with both feet.

          • DaveH

            MeteorLady,
            Keep in mind that Teachers get about 3 months off each year. And most salary quotes you hear from individual teachers don’t include their benefit packages which are generous. Also, teaching is a very popular occupation. If it was opened back up to the Free Market (get Government out of it), their salaries would plummet due to the popularity of the position. And for good reason. An occupation is chosen for numerous reasons. Nobody can decide better than individuals whether an overall employment package is to their preferences. The Free Market, and the voluntary contracts that go with it, has no equal when it comes to best determining which salary and benefits are most desirable to individuals.
            If, for instance, janitorial positions paid the same as Electronical Engineers received, how many people would bust their butts for 4-6 years of College Education to acheive those engineering jobs?
            Only individuals voting with their choices can determine a truly fair job market.
            Here is a list of average teachers’ salaries by state. And by the way, the lowest I see on the list is $36674:
            http://dcjobsource.com/teachersalaries.html

          • DaveH

            Here is a website that gives a more comprehensive snapshot of Teacher’s salaries and other pertinent information, state by state, for those who might want to pursue teaching as an occupation:
            http://www.teachersalaryinfo.com/average-teacher-salary-california.html

        • Joe H.

          Michael,
          Are you going to answer the ladys question????

          • Joe H.

            Guess not!!! Although I would say his silence says it all!!!

      • Strawberry Shortcake

        …to finish rant (my computer decided to submit my comment before I was finished, my apologies):

        The only “entitlement” anyone deserves are the ones that people choose to give to others from the heart, because they have decided they wish to spread their wealth to someone else in need of it. The government does not get to decide that for anyone.

        • Meteorlady

          Hear hear……

      • Conservative Carl

        Michael can believe the distorted stories called news by ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN,MSNBC and any other mainstream media because they have them all except FOX NEWS. And yet those intolerant and prejudiced people do not even want us to listen to FOX NEWS! What is is with liberal socialist people anyway that they believe in censorship?

        • DaveH

          They believe in censorship because they know their ideas can’t stand up to thorough scrutiny.

    • Cel

      Jeff….we are online if you want to see what we stand for..

      We are ….”fair tax” people. or like I have said..Nancy calls us “red

      neck tea baggers”

      This is why we stand with “Republicans”

      This administration’s spending out spends the last 10 Presidents combined.

      ***

      • Joe H.

        Cel,
        I think she called us astro turf!!!!

  • Ken

    How about the GOP disbanding and the conservatives throw in with the T.E.A. Party and the McCain, Specter, Jeffords, Collins and Snowe types join the democrats? I’m was tired of paying for the campaigns of democrats in drag anyway. The CFR, Bilderbergers, Trilateralists would then just run one party instead of two and the people would have a fighting chance.

    • DaveH

      We aren’t going to get anywhere until people starting realizing that freedom doesn’t just mean “as long as it’s something that I enjoy”.
      We typically turn our heads when one minority class or another gets their freedoms trampled, as long as it doesn’t affect our own choices. We need to change that attitude, as we all enjoy minority pursuits of one type or another, and at one time or another we all will be in the minority that gets no support from the unaffected majority.
      Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution.

      • Joe H.

        DaveH,
        does that mean I have to support the minority named illegals:? If it does forget it!!

        • DaveH

          I’m talking about life choices. Like smoking, golfing, surfing, boating, etc.
          Everybody has minority pursuits.

          • Joe H.

            DaveH
            I guess the “minority class” fooled me!!

  • Gerald

    Gerald Says

    I do not know whether Sarah Palin made the statement or not. Knowing the national media as we do you cannot trust them on anything. If she did it could very well have been taken out of context. Also, if she did it needs to be qualified. A third party would be a wonderful thing if it could be a reality and if it could in these days elect a national cantidate. The problem is that the Democratic base is solidified and a third party cantidate would draw very few of them across the line. A third party cantidate would need all the republicans and all the independents to have a majority in a national election. The only hope a third party would have in these days would be if there was a split in the Democrat party and that doesn’t appear to be happening. I do not personally see how any conservative voter could join the Democratic party since their platform is so far from constitutional. Even though there are several rino’s among republicans the platform is much nearer to the constitution and it makes since to me to encourage all those who think like a conservative to embrace a good republican cantidate and pray that Ralph Nader or Jesse Jackson would run for president as an independent. They would certainly get some votes. After all Ralph nader kept us from having Al Gore as president a few years back when he took about 6% of the Florida vote. Let us be wise enough not to fall into the hands of the Democrat stratigists and get split up into several groups and miss a chance to save our freedom. I fear this could be our last chance to save our republic.

    • DaveH

      Gerald,
      The Democratic Base is not solidified. There are many Democrats who just don’t like the Republicans interfering with their personal choices. And many Democrats don’t believe murder is okay as long as we call it “war” (war on terrorism, war on drugs, etc.).
      Here is a poll on how many people condone redistribution of wealth:
      http://www.gallup.com/poll/108445/americans-oppose-income-redistribution-fix-economy.aspx

      As long as people think they know what is best for the lives of others, we are going to see continuously growing government. We need to get back to the kind of Freedom that our Founders embraced.
      Vote Libertarian!

      • Louise

        Why would any one listen to Sarah Palin anyway? She will run with any one who will keep her in the spot light!
        The Republicans don’t want change in Washington D.C. They like the “good old boy ” politics,where they can go on vacations paid for by lobbiest!
        By the way Bush got us in this war and he is a Republican!

        • DaveH

          Bush was accompanied by Republicans and Democrats. They all spent like drunken sailors. But, Obama is the clear spending Champion! And he is here now, ruining our country.
          Big Government is the problem, and it doesn’t matter who is at the Helm.

      • Joe H.

        DaveH,
        After the coverage of the talks (?)today, FOX had a republican and a dem on thyat were both TEA party members and the Dem was very adamant that we need to start all over from square one and make any work on health care bi-partisan!! He was talking about how the bill had to satisfy the majority of the people not just a small group of them!!

        • DaveH

          Of course. Compromise, which means we get more Government. I chose the wrong profession. I should have been a politician. How can they lose?
          Unless, of course, the voters get smart. The politicians are probably pretty safe.

          • Joe H.

            I was trying to make a point that even their own people are getting disenfranchised!!!!

  • JuliBMe

    The Republicans, while they were in power, did miss opportunities and allowed the “Beltway Culture” infect them. They were certainly fiscally irresponsible. However, they have, for the most part been standing strong against the Marxism oozing from Washington this past year. The Tea Partiers need to invade the Republican party and boot the RINOs and bring the party back to the Constitution. They need to ensure that whoever goes to Washington will not be infected by the “Beltway Disease”. Palin is, as usual, absolutely right. We don’t need Perot II. This time, it is EXTREMELY important that does NOT happen! They need to continue to be the party of not only “NO!” but “HELL NO!!!”

    • Meteorlady

      Vote for and support Libertarian candidates. You will get no where trying to fix the two parties that are now in power. They are corrupt and they will always be corrupt because their buddies and the rich elitists that pull their strings.

      http://www.lp.org/

  • Raggs

    Bet ya she will claim that global warming is true next! I would also add that she will jump on the obamacare bandwagon. Fraud / phoney there really isn’t any difference in palin and all of the other corrupt dictator’s in this country.

  • Meteorlady

    Since when did Sarah become the spokesperson for the Tea Party? Maybe the press is misled but I do not follow a leader, I follow the candidate that is “doing” what I want. I also take offense to her remark that we are a two party system. We are only a two party system because the new media and elected officials want us to believe that. We need to get behind Independent candidates and support them by working for their campaigns and contributing money to help them get elected.

    The Tea Party is a group of people who are against big government and government spending. We do no have or want a leader and if we go down that road we will end up like the Repubs and Dems, just another corrupt political party.

    • Raggs

      Did you happen to catch the interview of palin on oreilly last week?

      Well if you missed it both of them called the tea-party gun loving idiots and racist… I will no longer watch oreilly…
      palin is nothing but a political pawn bougth and paid for. And now Fox news is also turning into a circus of fools.

      • Strawberry Shortcake

        O’Reilly is a spineless, arrogant moron. Can’t stand him most of the time. He annoyed me greatly the other night when he had a member of the Oath Keepers on. That man was dead on with his position and all O’Reilly cared about was painting them as right wing terrorists tied to the “TEA” party.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Po8LLjIlDw&feature=related

      • Meteorlady

        I did not watch it. I don’t watch much TV – just read mostly. I went to a Tea Party rally and here’s what went on. There were about 2,000 people just like me. Well dressed, courteous and respectful. Some had small flags and waved them. There were people of all colors, genders and ages. What did the press do when they showed up? Stalk the crowd and picked the nuttiest looking guy they could find to interview. I was amazed that out of that many people they found one that they could show on TV in order to make the entire thing look like a bunch of nut cases.

        I am not a gun toting nut case. I am an American citizen that is sick to death of what the people in Washington DC are doing to this country. I am sick to death of lies, conspiracies, fraud, waste and spending. I just want the government to abide by the Constitution and quit redistributing my money into failed and bloated government programs.

        The Tea Party must really scare the powers that be – that would be why they are attached and misrepresented all the time.

        • Pat R

          Maybe this “nutty-looking” guy was a “plant” and that’s why he was picked. It happens!

      • Claire

        Raggs—I agree–and I think they are all crazy. They are like chickens with their heads cut off.

    • Cel

      and you do know that we are not going to endorse John McCain in his run for the Senate don’t you?

      ***

  • Robin from Indiana

    I understand the logic behind the statement, if it was really made, but that is not going to get us out of the mess this country is in. We NEED a third party, with people who will listen, that have morals, standards, and principles! It can happen and the time is ripe for it to happen!

    • DaveH

      With the Internet, we now have the power to bypass the MSM and get information and ideas to people that have not been exposed to them before. I think we have a real shot at waking the citizens up in the next decade, hopefully before Government reaches critical mass (too many feeding at the trough).

      • Joe H.

        DaveH,
        We had it last election and it didn’t help at all as the people are dumb enough to get their news from the alphabets!!!

        • L, USA

          It’s because many have learned to spell from reading alphabet soup.

  • Phil

    Did anyone notice the ” verbage” Jeb Bush used yesterday to say in a polite way that Sarah Palin is to stupid to be in politics…..?

    • DaveH

      She certainly isn’t any dumber than Obama. She’s certainly less conniving and more moral.
      We wouldn’t need such intelligent leaders if they hadn’t been allowed to micromanage every aspect of our lives. And now that they are expected to save us from every danger, there is nobody that is that intelligent, so we just get Liars who pretend to be.

  • Boo T

    I understand what Sarah means, so as not to split the good guys vote and the bad guy still wins. But I don’t want that to be the answer, it will take time to undermine all the progressives hard work. It took a long time to make this mess, but now that The People are paying attention more now than EVER, perhaps we can undo this mess alot quicker, but it will take time and persuasion. As my hubby says, nobody wants to bet on a loser. Education is the key, and you can lead a horse to water but can’t make them drink. Alot of people I know don’t care to listen to any of what’s really going on and prefer to stay ignorant, which drives me crazy. My own hubby relies on the philosophy that “the pendulum swings both ways, when it swings too far left, the reaction then 4 yrs later swings to the far right, and middle ground will be found somewhere in Congress”. I feel that time has passed, the progressives are in a go mode right now, because their efforts (albeit underhanded and cheap) are about to come to fruition with the socilaism they so embrace. Even the climate change, global warming lie hasn’t convinced anyone that maybe they are lying about any or everything else. HELP!!!

  • Boo T

    As for Bill O’Reilly, same as Rush, take them with a grain of salt. They do make good points and can be entertaining, but they are not my news source.

    • Cel

      Well Boo, they would be some good News sources.

      Can’t beat Bill and love that Glen…..he saves me a lot of research.

      Every time I check something he has reported, you know, he is right.

      Smart man, he is.

      ***

      • Arkham Grundy

        Glen Beck is as disingenuous as any other media loudmouth. If MSNBC offered him a higher paying job he’d suddenly become a liberal. Don’t believe in him. Find your own truth.

        • Joe H.

          What;s the matter grundy upset your party doesn’t have anybody like Glenn that can kick butt in the talk show circuit????

    • Claire

      They aren’t my news source either. Paid entertainers. Dangle a carrot in front of the people and they think we will all bite.

      • Joe H.

        Claire,
        At least Glenn Beck shows proof on what he says, the alphabet soup channels just make a statement and expect you to accept and swallow!!!

  • Harry

    Yes we need the right kind of health reform but we need congressional reform more and nothing is going to get better until that happens. The administration has taken bold steps and hurt our country. We need to take bold steps to save our country. Rein in Congress/House and reform them into what the founding fathers had pictured for this country. Congress/House is attracting the wrong type of people. They are in it for themselves and not the people or the country. We must attract people who want to give back to their country for their successes not to live the easy life forever. One four year term and one six year term, no retirement benefits except social security which they are required to pay into. (If they haven’t prepared for retirement already they are not capable of running the country) Salary commensurate with the other government employees…that is basic and any increases are on the ballet. They are on the same health care as the people and if there are lines they stand in them. No perks such as Pelosi’s plane and they ride on the airlines with the rest of the us. No private cars, chauffeurs or other travel benefits. When they travel they stay in regular hotels to cut costs and have a limit on food etc. In other words they set an example for the people of the country that they are not there to benefit financially but to serve the people. No parties in the White House like are going on now but parties for business only. We did not elect them to have a party every week or twice a week for their enjoyment. If they want to have fun then they spend their own money…just like we do. Campaigns are limited to three months and funded by the government where every one is equal. If we get the right people in there the country will heal and become prosperous again. Don’t tell me it can’t be done.

    • Charles

      So far as I am concerned, both the Democrats and the Republicans are responsible for our economic mess and for the dollar’s loss of buying power, so I wouldn’t join either party because all either of them wants to do is impoverish the nation and enrich their friends at Goldman Sachs and other such economic vampires.

      • DaveH

        “As Government Grows, Corruption Flows”, Michelle Malkin.

      • Conservative Carl

        As Ronald Reagan said “Government isn’t the solution to a problem; Government is the problem”. The government has grown by leaps and bounds as more departments or agencies are added. Long ago we had the one department called HEW or department of Health,Education and Welfare. Now there are three separate agencies with huge, expensive staffs. More recently the Homeland Security was added with their large staff. Of course, that is just two of many. That means many thousands of employees on government payrolls. This is the way government solves joblessness evidently. But we pay dearly for that while in the private sector joblessness grows. It is insanity. Or maybe they are devious socialists leading us slowly into Marxism.

        • DaveH

          Carl,
          I think some are devious and some are just looking out for themselves.

    • Meteorlady

      Term limits are throwing the baby out with the bath water. I like my Senator – he represents his district and has always voted for his people.

      We need to put ethics back into politics and get rid of all the lawyers, unethical, and self-serving people that now inhabit the congress.

      • http://wwwNRA.com Stephaan

        Meteorlady,
        I agree on your “term limits” assessment. What a waste. How long would it take to ever get another GOOD rep. back in to take his place. The same goes for “voting all incumbents out” Why vote out the GOOD incumbents that actually respect the Constitution and support it & the people? I think people just get frustrated & angry and start screaming “term limits” & “vote out all incumbents” without even thinking about WTF they’re saying, or the consequences of such actions. It is counter productive and a waste of valuable time and resources, and just plain ignorant!

        • JC

          Exactly, take a good look at their voting records and see if they walk the walk before you fire them.

          • Joe H.

            JC,
            Not only does this keep the good ones, just think of the message it sends to the ones we get rid of and the ones we elect. We show them that we will support the ones that represent US and get rid of the ones that DON’T!!!

          • JC

            Yes Sir, That’s exactly right. I can think of 4 or 5 Congressman off the top of my head who need to be supported, not fired.

  • Melanie

    The Tea Party must stay the course! We must only vote for candidates that sincerely represent what we stand for. If Sarah Palin really said we need to choose a party, then she has compromised her principles.

    Americans must stick together and take our country back!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Mark S

    Good girl, Sarah. The Tea party gang is going to pull a Perot on this election if they try to create a new party right now. The only thing that’ll do is siphon off Republican votes, and that’s what the Dems are hoping for. The values of true Republicans are the same as the Tea party, which I consider myself a part of. You can get all huffy all day about sticking to your Tea party guns, but all it’ll do is give the Democrats a free pass right back into office. Instead, we need to think logically, and vote for the “R” candidate that best represents us. We can even go as far as backing someone in particular to run Republican. But to vote for someone just because they have a “T” next to their name is crazy. Better they have an “R”, so our vote can count. Remember something, too, anyone can say they’re a Tea partier and try to fool their way in. Harry Reed was just found out trying to pull that trick by having a registered Democrat say they were a Tea partier. Better we vette out everyone, and choose the best “R” we can. Folks, there’s pride, and then there’s stupidity. I’m an Independent, and a Tea party believer, but I’m casting my vote for the “R” side for now, to buy some time by at least getting away from Democrat control, when we can then work on forming a third party. Forming a new party takes time.
    Please vote with your head, not your heart, and help us get away from Democrat control.

    • Pat R

      The TEA Party is “NOT” a separate political party.

    • Cel

      I vote with you Mark.

  • DaveH
  • DaveH

    Palin’s full speech at the Gaylord Opryland Resort:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=6182081n&tag=related;photovideo

    Note that I am not endorsing her. I just think people should hear it from her.

  • Eric

    Big wrong answer Sarah! Sorry Sarah weaves her woes as common folks say oh heck no! Let’s get one thing straight. It is about time that the people rally together to place into office those who will stand up for the constitution and our rights and who will get the job done in recovering our nation from the ploy of both of these parties. If it takes a third party, so be it. I think that it will be a matter of who the people are going to think would be best for the job this year whether Dem, Pub, or Independent. The majority of independents will side with you if you have the right answers and show by your record that you’re on track. The democrats (most) have a big black eye to them this year and they are anxious to make the other match in the upcoming elections. Stay unified for what needs to be done and who needs to go away for the good of our nation. It is high time to place those in the houses who will stand by constitutional principals and the good of their constituents and nation. Even if it means electing independents or making write in votes on ballots until the point gets across. People are not happy with the choices. There will be plenty of shifts in power from this upcoming election to create balance against the extremist liberals now in the administration and houses. It is plenty right to disagree with your own party. It is plenty wrong to agree when they are wrong. Bottom line is maintaining constitutional principals and thwarting the corrupt Federal Reserve, destructive economics, and to wrestle out of the hands corporate elitist and government powers that over ride that of yours as the people. We must return empowerment of the people, private sector, and fair trade. Congress should be held to fiscal responsibility and be willing to do their constitutional job duty of imposing tariffs against unbalanced trade. It is time to unify and ORGANIZE for our causes. The people are ready to break off all those little fingers that like to point back and forth as you do what you wish. We don’t buy it no more!

  • Dean

    Look what the democrats and republicans have done to our nation. We the people don’t need them!

    • Cel

      We the people have let them…………..

  • kenh

    History Lesson. Third party candidates always affect the party they are left or right of. If you have any hope of getting your point of view best represented you need to support a major party that is closest to your view or support the 3rd party candidate who least supports your view.

    I believe the major parties are aware and fearful of the various Tea Parties. But the rath shown toward Sen Brown after his last meaningful vote just isolates the right right. You will most likely not ever get everything you want. Palin is right! Party splitters are most likely to get much more of the things they don’t like.

    • Pat R

      I was disappointed that Scott Brown chose to vote for the jobs bill! But as I recalled when he was elected he stated that it was “The Peoples Seat”! He said that his People needed jobs so he voted for the bill for his “people” Maybe he was voting for his people which in my opinion was a “good thing”
      Remember: He is “ProAbortion” and several other things that we Republicans don”t like. He also said that he would cross the aisle whenever it was necessary. Not exactly Conservative in my opinion!

      • Joe H.

        Pat R.
        That’s exactly what McCain said while runnint too and look at him and his record!!! CRAP!!!! The second month of Obummers term he said ” President Obama is doing a great job”. What a crapper of a politician!!!

    • JC

      And one more time around the hamster wheel we’d go..
      ken, just a thought, when you say we won’t always get all we want…
      I don’t want a damned thing from these people. Nothing. That’s the whole point, there’s too damned much government, period! I will not endorse either the red socialists or the blue socialists…its a matter of principle.
      The Federal Administration has 3 legitimate jobs and only 3.
      Defend our borders.
      A “civil” police force.
      A judiciary based on “justice”.
      That’s it, that’s all.

  • Charlotte McCommon

    I am telling everyone I know if any of those senators or congressmen has been in office more than two terms they need to be voted out and to look at each person running to see what their view are and vote accordingly. I, like some of the people commenting have never been to a tea party but am for them and with them. If a new party should emerge I will take a look at the platform and decide then who I will sign up with for now I am in the republican party and am aware of the lack of differences in the two party, still the platform is different.

    Charlotte

    • Joe H.

      charlotte,
      As meteor said above what about the good ones that have been in office more than two years?? And as Stephaan said how long could it take to get another good one in?!?!?

  • Mitsi

    Gee….wasn’t the whole idea of the Tea Party to get AWAY from the R & D thing??? What good is it going to do to join one??? Both are corrupt.

  • Rod

    The Tea Party started by People who are very unhappy with what direction the Radical far left Dem’s are trying to JAM their
    agenda down our throat without giving American’s a voice in
    what the Govt. is up to! We do not want OBAMA,Palosi and Reid
    health care in this country! We all understand this is a
    socialist attitude by these people leading to TYRANNY!

  • TN

    I always suspected that the Republican Party would try and hijack the Tea Party movement for their own ends. The Republican and Democratic parties are very similar. They try to appear “different” by taking slightly different stances social issues and foreign policy. Both have attempted social engineering through legislation. Both will spend America into oblivion. Both will lead to tyranny.
    Paleoconservatives and libertarians are the only hope for this country. If you want to vote along party lines, then support Constitutionalist or Libertarian candidates. Just bear in mind that the two-party duopoly is what got us here in the first place. The elites hate the Tea Party movement because they know that they cannot control voters who think independently.

    • chuck b

      tn
      yeah! in the opposite, i think the tea party should hijack the republican party, that is the only hope we have. to start a new party would result in another demo”gogue” victory. (ross perot) even though i like a lot about the libertarians, they could never gather enough support. to unseat the old republican politicians will be monumental, but, it looks to me like a better idea than starting something new at this point. normally i would be against voting for a woman president, however, palin has a lot of guts and is not afraid to get in the liberals face like some of the repubs and i think she is conservative to the core. you don’t see many of the old boys club in the republican ranks catering to the tea party and i think they would love to see palin fall.

  • eddie47d

    Victor Barney,8:23am) There you go again bashing immigrants just like Palin. You really should be going after your fellow Americans who allowed it to happen. It was Republicans for the most part who wanted cheap labor for America. Did you vote for them when they pushed for NAFTA? That sure opened the flood gates. They needed this cheap labor and was willing to sacrafice you and me to get it. We sure got it by the truck load. Why didn’t Americans keep on roofing our houses and drywalling our basements? What happened to all our bricklayers? Who’s picking our crops? I guess we didn’t need these jobs bad enough,right? We did this to ourselves because it was beneath our dignity to clean toliets and dig ditches.So quit crying over your spilt milk.

    • chuck b

      eddie

      why work when you can collect welfare, it was not republicans, thank the great society started by lbj. the illegals generated cheap labor and a lot of illegal votes for demo”gogues.

  • Raggs

    The truth is that both parties of idiots know that as soon as this stupid obamacare takes over there will be nowhere to hide!.. odumbo’s plan will be to pass it prior to November that way he can blame the repub’s in a hope they will lose support. It makes sence to palin to throw the tea-party to the wolves knowing they will not have a chance.
    (words removed for offensive content)

  • http://www.nosmog.com ROBERT

    TO SARAH PALIN,

    NO, NO, NO,NO WAY TO JOIN WITH REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS FROM TEA PATY NATION. ! WE THE PEOPLE WILL STAY WITH TEA PARTY NATION !!, SORRY FOR SARAH !.

    NOW, YESTERDAY NEWS: “OATH KEEPERS” NEWS MENTIONED AND SAID: “WATCH OUT ABOUT SARAH PALIN ALSO JOHN McCAIN ALSO GLENN BECK, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY AN DWE NEED TO BE HEARD !. IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE IT BUT THE FACTS ABOUT THEM THAT WE ALL NEVER KNOW AND HIDING THEMSELVES ?.

    • Raggs

      I did watch fox pee news but never again!
      It’s a twisted corrupt obama agenda conspiracy theorist. Not to mention they lie.

      • Claire

        Raggs–I came to the conslusion a long time ago that a person cannot trust the media. None of them.

        • Claire

          “conclusion” egad, I should have checked my spelling-sorry.

      • Joe H.

        Raggs,
        tell me the lies that Beck told, without using daily kos or some web site that looks like it was made up by third graders.!!!

  • So Sueme

    Dear Sarah

    Thank you for the worthless advice. I have chosen a political party, they are called the Libertarians ( http://www.lp.org ) and they would actually do what you imitation neo-cons parody at election time.

    Once again, thanks for nothing!

    • Raggs

      So many poster’s are saying to go here and go there.
      I have a mind of my own no thanks to obama and company.
      In my thougth’s a “liberal” party is the ole-same-oh a political machine based on thier agenda and not in company with the “average” American…. Am I wrong? if I’m not prove it!

      • So Sueme

        Raggs

        Sure, Raggs, vote AGAINST something…you will quickly find that politically, two negatives do not make a positive…only more negativity.

        And you, along with the majority of Americans, need to find the true dictionary definition of “Liberal”. Hint: it ain’t got nothing to do with wealth redistribution.

        Now if you want to actually, POSITIVELY affect conservative change, you’ll have to align yourself with some…well…Liberals.

        http://www.lp.org

        • Raggs

          Define conservative change please. Hint to me it spell’s upholding the rigths of American’s not illegal’s.. To me a conservative change would be chunking the radical left off of the train or let them wreck on it naked and barefoot…

          • Raggs

            I looked at the link……. Hummmm…
            So liberals support the Joe Kennedy…. All of my questions have been answered and no thank you…. I think one of the main things that sets us apart is that I dont believe in that is that of a politic family.
            Handed down from generation to generation from Ted and friends.
            This is one of the largest flaws we have in this country a career liar. Lawers are bad enough…

          • JC

            Raggs, what are you talking about? have you confused Liberal with Libertarian? Because if you have the difference is night and day.

  • ONTIME

    Both parties need to clean up their act, the libs need to be kicked out of the dems side and the RINO’s from the Republicans party, these two elements have done more to corrupt the politic and civility of both parties to the point where you cannot tell them apart. I like partisanship and I like to hear the argument that will sway my thinking when the issue is on the table, I don’t want some crumb sneaking around behind my back to corrupt the vote or make up another lie.

  • Claire

    I should know better than to trust any politician. I always harp that they can’t be trusted. And then I start thinking “Maybe this time this person will be a good Conservative.” Wrong!! They turn around and bite you in the butt. In the end, they all are cut out of the same cloth.

  • Claire

    I am going to ask all of you a question. Will any of you vote for Palin if she runs for the Presidency? I know I won’t. I’m done. Out of the entire mess of politicians, I think Ron Paul is the only one a person can trust.

  • DaveH
  • eagle

    I am with you Claire. But I want a third party. It will be easier to build new than rebuild the Rep Party. They will only come along for the votes, then compromise. The internet, thanks to Al Gore, can be a very effective way to spread the word and get conservatives elected. This is a much different time than when Ross P was running. Build it and they will come, a strong conservative 3rd party, what ever the name.

    • Claire

      Eagle–the Republicans/Rinos will not be any better just more of the same. Remember they helped get us into this mess, right along with the Dems.

      • Claire

        eagle–I did not complete my post. Yes, I wholeheartedly agree–a third party is needed. I’ll vote for Ron Paul. He could run for the Presidency and his son run for VP. Sound good?

        • DaveH

          There already is a third party, the Libertian Party. And they believe that people have the natural right to control their own body and property unfettered by do-gooder busybodies. In other words – Freedom!
          The Democrats want to control our money and property, and the Republicans want to control our personal choices (vice crime, etc.).
          The government has no business protecting us from ourselves. The only way people learn is for them to suffer the consequences of their own actions. Those that are protected against their will learn nothing and in fact tend to repeat the same mistakes over and over on purpose like an overly-controlled rebellious teenager does.

  • Rod

    The very last thing we need is a third party candidate! Obama and his
    criminals would love it if a third party candidate were to come out
    of the Tea Party. The G.O.P. is not perfect by any means. So why not
    come up with some ideas on how to make it better. I believe the G.O.P. will listen if the Tea Party has good ideas to offer! Never,
    never a third party candidate!!!!

    • Claire

      Rod–the Repubs are already moving in on the tea parties more than the Dems. Look who the speakers have been. The tea parties aren’t neutral. The Repubs/RINOS in my town claim the tea parties like it was their own idea.

    • Claire

      Rod—What makes you think it would go the Dems way? It could go to the Repubs too, don’t you think?

      • DaveH

        I think Rod is in the political class of the Republican Party. He sure is afraid of that 3rd Party.

        • Claire

          DaveH–I have noticed a few of them are afraid of a third party and then some want a third party. I still say this is what needs to be done–vote for a third party, show the Dems and Repubs a thing or two. We should give them their “come-uppance.”

          • Claire

            I meant take away their “come-uppance.” show them who is boss. The Americans are.

          • Joe H.

            DaveH and Claire,
            i have argued with you both considerably and I think we have been very congenial with each other so there goes dennislos charge that we could not possibly get along!! i guess we will have to just agree to disagree. I pray what I warn doesn’t happen though!!! I swear I hope my favorite lady doesn’t die such a horrible death as I can see on the horizon!!! God Bless this great lady, The United States of America!!!!!

          • Claire

            JoeH–We are congenial with each other because we have common sense. Once in a while we get in a “twit” about things, but we work them out. Like everyone else, we only want the “best” for America and all Americans. Yup–we can agree to disagree–good choice of words.

          • JC

            Joe makes a point and a good one. We conservatives all want His Hopiness on a plane back to his homeland. Some of us are very pro third party because we’ve been sick of the system since long before Obama. Joe is leery of going with the underdog candidates because he doesn’t necessarily like their chances and he wants Obama out too.
            Maybe those of us who aren’t so sure could do a little promoting of the Independent’s, Constitutionalists and Libertarians…
            Maybe just voting won’t be enough otherwise. Or maybe your local Republican has a good track record.
            I think it’s going to be up to all of us to help pull this off in our own way. But get Obama out, we must. THEN let’s work on fumigating the White House, auditing The Fed, and kicking the corporate cronies out of our Halls of Government.

  • Rod

    Keep in mind, The radical left will try to infiltrate the Tea party
    and sway it’s members. They would love it if they could make you believe they are a TRUE member of the Tea Party. Like I said folks,
    NO THIRD PARTY CANDIDATES. TWO PARTIES ONLY!

    • Raggs

      Bull…
      You lie just like all of the liberial thinker’s and that is exactly what everyones wants us to think like.
      A third party will beat anything you have to offer. Oh well lets just take a close look at liberials… career political fools like kennedy. you sicken me with your lies.

    • Raggs

      Post your crap on a democratic blog rod…
      You are the essence of the foul taste I have in my mouth!
      You come here spreading your lies to the benefit of obama and company which sucks to heaven and proclaim yourself to be a just man so bug off.

      • Joe H.

        Raggs,
        I don’t mean to cut you down by any means,but after reading your posts before tonight and tonight, could you have had a few or is there an impostor posting in your name tonight???

        • Claire

          JoeH–I noticed it too.

      • eyeswideopen

        Raggs, this site is titled Personal Liberty, not Conservative Liberty, or Republican Liberty. Nowhere is it stated that you have to be a member of either of those two organizations. Bob is allowing, Americans,of all parties on this site. Thank you, Bob.

        • libertytrain

          eyes, that’s the second time I’ve had to agree with you in the last day or so -

    • JC

      Oh come on Raggs, Rod is right. They will indeed infiltrate the Tea party movement. Its a time tested method.

    • L, USA

      Rod, Agreed. It seems that you have even flushed out one infiltrator here, just take a look at “Raggs” replies to your post! http://www.nationalblackrepublicans.com

      • L, USA

        Rod, Upon closer looking at the situation here; It seems that Raggs did not read/understand your messages. Raggs responded toward you in the manner of a typical liberal/useful idiot, but with the point of defending against liberals. In this, Raggs falsly accused you of being a liberal/democrat, seemingly in dismay and/or unbeleif of the possibility of political subversion to the group. This could be a ploy, in typical communist fashion, but it is also a cultural conditioning that seems to have been ingrained into the current population. Raggs must either practice introspective assesment of his own values or, if a subversionist in fact, repent of such a vile course of action against the American people and Constitution et.al.

  • eagle

    Both major parties are beholden to the Washington lobbyists and big money. The Tea Parties drew the battle line between the people and the government in general. Power to the People.

    • JC

      Right on!

    • denniso

      Here’s the way it works…if the ‘tea party’ ever got big enough to do anything important,it would be because they would have taken big $$ to get to that point and would then be beholden to it. Politics in a capitalistic system 101…

      • DaveH

        Yep, and then we would have to vote for them against our will. Look into my dollars, you are getting sleepy. You will vote like we tell you too.

  • eagle

    Sarah gave an inspiring speach to an enthusiastic tea party convention in Nashville. Then she turned and supported John McCain. Who is infiltrating who?

    • Beagle

      Well, McCain asked her to be his running mate. C’mon. You know Sarah has a big heart and can’t say no to her friends. As long as you’re not a democrat you can do whatever you like and that includes using the “R” word whichever way you feel suited.

      Tea Party need to go their own way and take that goofy revisionist history with you. Hitler tried rewriting history for the Germans, too, and that got him a foot in the door. Maybe it will work for you guys, too.

      Although we don’t have to worry about you guys being Nazis. Anti-intellectualism, religious fundamentalism, brand nationalism, and revisionist constitution history spell out one thing, F-A-S-C-I-S-M.

      • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

        And the angry beagle is pizzed off because???? The little kitty cat peed in your food dish?? Awww what a shame, but you probably deserved it for peeing in his first. Since you’re a whiny crybaby liberal, you should first call your liberal socialist congressman, and have them replace the dish and your food. Also be sure and make them give you a FREE” lifetime supply of your favorite kibble” They should also replace your masters entire house because I’m sure you & he can be classified as “victims” in this case, because this is definitely a racist act (feline vs. canine)
        While you’re at it, why not go for broke and sue the cat? I’m sure with our liberal socialist judicial system, you can steal every dollar that freakin cat makes for the rest of his/her life, even though he was justified in this act!
        Then take a few bucks and go buy a dictionary, and look up the definition of FASCISM, because it’s apparent to all here, that you really haven’t a clue what it is!

        • Claire

          Stephaan–”Better to be pizzed off than pizzed on.” LOL

  • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

    That “quoted by CBS” part, is kind of suspect to me. I would have to hear her admit to that as being “what” she said.
    For one thing, I can’t imagine her even mentioning the democratic party as being one of the choices. That is like throwing the TEA members to the wolves. The TEA Party movement is NOT about liberalism, fiscal irresponsibility, or the liberal socialist democratic party!
    It’s about a lot of pi$$ed off AMERICANS who have had ENOUGH OF THIS BULLSHI*T GOVERNMENT doing what they want, instead of what we want!!!

  • Wally

    Two things come to mind.

    America has been a 2 party system for a long time, to get the voting public to think and vote differently would be very difficult. To the right, votes would be shared by republicans and tea party members. To the left, the democrats get all the votes. The result is democrats win and the other 2 parties loose.

    The solution is simple, claim to be a member of both parties. Infiltrate both parties. Once established in office in sufficient numbers, announce to the fact that you have become a tea party member. If you are doing a good job as a tea party member, people will notice and break with whatever habit they developed. Get used to it, there is no other way to do it effectively without giving the balance of power to 1 group for the next several generations.

    Maybe you will need a secret handshake or something so you don’t unseat another tea party member unless they need unseating. Once in what is known as a super-majority and filibuster-proof, generate legislation where any federal politician in office is limited to 1 six year term. Every 3 years 50% of the politicians would be replaced.

    No politician would get paid more than a colonel in the military would get. They work 5 days a week, get government supplied housing (cheap) and get the same benefits that any military person would get while on active duty. After you put in 6 years your done, go home and find yourself a job. You get no retirement benefits — nothing.

    You get a discharge paper like the DD214 form a military person gets after serving a tour of duty. You get caught being dishonest — you spend 6 years in jail and return any and all pay compensation that you may have earned.

    I think you would find a more honest political system than what Americans have been burdened with for many decades.

    • J C

      The Democrats don’t win anything really…not if the house is stacked with Constitutionalists and Repubs. The Dems won’t be able to use the washroom without asking the house for toilet paper.
      The idea is not to split the vote so much as it is to get more people to vote…if the majority of the ones who vote for a single party are still in the minority of total voters…they have no power anyway.
      Unless the Dems get a house majority they’ll be frozen out.
      At least that’s one scenario.

  • David of Hawaii

    The fact that so many people feel disenfranchised by both the Democratic and Republican parties is proof that Congress is broken. To fix it we must set term limits:
    NO to any Congress Person with over 12 years.
    NO to Congressional retirement and perks
    NO to Congress having different Health Care AND Retirement Plan than they give us. Take back the money they stole
    NO to lobbyists
    NO to Congressional corruption
    NO to bailout of large corporations
    NO to CEO bonuses on taxpayer money
    NO to Derivatives and other money laundering
    NO to lending money you don’t have in hand
    NO to brokers selling & repackaging mortgages
    NO to credit card interest above 10%
    NO to tax breaks for overseas manufacturing and out sourcing
    NO to foreign oil
    NO to unequal Money Base. Use cost of top 100 items; bread, meat, milk, small car, small house of each country to compare
    YES TO VOTER POWER.
    NO More Career Congress Persons.
    Pass this to all your friends over and over EVERY election till they “VOTE”.

    • coal miner

      Hawaii,

      I agree. What do you mean by unequal pay?

      • Joe H.

        coal scrounger,
        Read a little closer and you will see that once again you are mis-quoting someone. what’s the matter did you think he was for taking some of your retirement away because you were so lazy?!?!?! Stop sweating you’re safe nobody is out to take your unearned bucks away!!!!

        • coal miner

          Joe boot lickingH,

          What your excuse? Your wife is working.You sit on that fat lard ass of yours and criticize.Stop laying around,try working for a change.We tax payers are tired of keeping your free loading ass up. No excuses.

          • J C

            How much time have you put into defending your country?
            I mean in foreign wars?
            Just curious because the man you are slagging off has done more than his share of service and I’d bet a buck you’ve spent much of your life at union meetings and swilling beer with the other socialists.

          • coal miner

            J.C.

            That has got to be the stupidest statement you ever made,perhaps the stupidest on this blog.I try to join the marine corp and was turn down,due to bad eyesight.I also tried to join the other branches,same thing. I like to never got my driver’s license,due to this affliction.I don’t buy foreign scab products, the reason it amounts to treason,your friend Joeh does.Chinaa already own this country, thanks to Ronald turncoat Reagon.I had younger brother that died in Vietnam and also got two grand children that is in Iraq.So don’t question my loyalty,ask Daveh,Jefh, and others if they served.I stated this once before about my eyesight,another thing,I don’t particularly care whether you respect me or not. You can Kiss where the sun don’t shine.

          • JC

            CM
            Let’s not forget the role played by Unions in helping the US manufacturing base look for friendlier territory.
            I mean look what Union Labor did for Detroit…it’s a third world country. Nice job guys!

          • Joe H.

            the last time you told your story, you said you didn’t try the other services as “it was the Marines or nothing, wanted to make a career of it”!!! Your words old fart not mine!!! This tells me it’s BULL!!!!

        • eyeswideopen

          Joe, coal, was asking a question, not mis-quoting him.

          • Joe H.

            eyesstrappedshut,
            Then be so kind to show me where Hawaii says unequal pay!!!! He is, indeed, misquoting. The term used is “unequal money base!!!! Once again, as usual, you are wrong!!!

          • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

            SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRE!!! ‘-)

            Isn’t it funny Joe, how sometimes the liberals in their haste to defend their other ignorant liberal friends, don’t even bother to read their posts and just BLINDLY (pun intended) run in with both guns ablazin, and end up with egg on their faces (including over their eyes)
            Coal miner: mis-reads, then mis-quotes. Eyes welded shut, mis-reads, then mis-quotes. Score 4 mistakes for one simple issue. ha ha ha ha They’re just like the liberal leaders in Congress. Don’t read anything, just go off half cocked all the time.. hmmm? Go figure.. :-)

          • Joe H.

            Stephaan,
            you know how it is, can’t let them read the bill gotta get it passed!!! These don’t read at all!!!!

  • Jim of Comifornia

    In a way Palin is right. First let me say that for twenty years I’ve been voting for the lesser of two evils. In Comifornia you must be registered with a party in order to vote in its primary.You would register with the evils party and vote against that evil in the primary. If this fails you try again in the general election. This is a game we Patriots play in our battle against ignorance and the uncontitutional elements with in our society.

    • denniso

      What blatant iodicy!! When will you people actually start thinking for yourselves???

      • coal miner

        Denniso,

        These so called conservatives doing a little independent thinking? You got to be a kidding.The liberal philosopher John Stuart Mill once said,”You don’t have to be stupid to be a conservative,but most consevatives are stupid”.Denniso,I think John Stuart Mill was right. Mill’s estimated IQ was 190.

        • http://www.ccrkba.org. Dartanian

          coal miner:
          and yours and dennisos iqs’ together, don’t total 90 iqp, so whats your point?? My example: Look at your posts! I’ve seen 3rd graders that can do better.

          • Joe H.

            Dartanian,
            and don’t forget coalscroungers inability to read. Always misquoting people!!!

        • DaveH

          Notice that both Coal Miner and Denniso had nothing intelligent to say, just personal attacks. Any grade-school child can launch such attacks.
          Do not confuse immorality with intelligence, Miner and Denniso.

      • J C

        You two are dating aren’t you? ;)

        • coal miner

          J.C.

          I did more work in one week, than you have in a year. (words removed for offensive content)

          • Joe H.

            Jc,
            Remember, it takes a lot of “work” to manufacture that coaldust ring around his nose!!!!!

          • Joe H.

            coal scrounger,
            That was probably the ONLY week you worked!!!!

          • DaveH

            Another ignorant remark by a Liberal. It takes a lot of intelligence, Miner, to compare your work ethic to that of a person you do not even know, much less have ever worked with.

          • coal miner

            Daveh, Scab and coward,

            I thought it it was funny when old Jim Bob lit into you.I didn’t see you saying any thing,except You kept saying ,”You are clueless”Jim Bob ran you like a paththetic mongrel.Scab you belong in the past,not in the future.We will have it like it used to be.Jonson times will be here again.All power to the unions.I putting my application in to be a IWW member.Scabs tremble,we are on the march to freedom.Glory to LBJ.

          • JC

            Oh I don’t know about that…
            10 years ago I had nothing, and I mean nothing after a 30 years of working. Now I have so many things that people would consider part of the American dream that I don’t know what to do with it all.
            And I did it by out working the criminal tax regime’s voracious appetite for other people money and straight up theft.
            Now I can’t decide whether to go for a dip in the pool or wash the RV…decisions decisions…

            I’d have a ton more respect for you Coal Miner if you weren’t a socialist(ergo: Thief). I admire anyone’s work ethic…when they have one.

          • Joe H.

            Oldfartminer,
            I guess that wasn’t aimed at me as jim boob never lit into me on anything. I guess that coal stain on your face and knees have obstructed your thinking!!!!

          • Joe H.

            I guess with afterthought you probably DID do a lot of work. you did say you have arthritic KNEES!!!!!!! HEHEHEHAHAHA!!!!!

  • DaveH

    Please watch John Stossel on Fox Business Channel. He is telling it like it is. This weeks program is talking about the Government’s meddling in the prescription drug markets. There is no doubt in my mind that he is going to take the heat off of Glenn Beck as the guy that Big-Government-lovers fear the most.
    I am very hopeful (and dreaming too) that more people will start looking into Libertarian Principles and realize the simplistic beauty of their platform. So many of our problems could be solved simply and cheaply with far less Government intrusion into our lives. Remember the KISS principle (keep it simple stupid). People that want job security (for instance Politicians) love the complex solutions. But in reality the simple, elegant solutions usually trump the complex ones.

    • JC

      John Stossel is absolutely a man of principle and a fine American.
      And he wants us to know some truths that the Government would much rather we didn’t think about too much.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Sarah Palin is right here – ‘R’ or ‘D’. However, the latter should be omitted. While some Dems are not as leftwing as others, we’ve seen plenty of evidence that today’s Democratic Party is far from that of the JFK era. It’s been hijacked by ultra-liberal leftwing statists. Likewise, I understand people’s frustrations with RINOs or wimps in the GOP who wander off the conservative field and cower to liberal democraps. But – LOOK AT THE OVERALL PICTURE!! With a few exceptions, Republicans (including John McCain) have been opposing the democraps’ irresponsible profligate spending, government health care, cap & trade, etc. It’s sufficient to say we should merely concentrate on a revitalized GOP.

  • James

    Let’s remember why President Obama was elected, he promised to end the wars in the Middle East and control who and what passes over our national borders. He hasn’t done that. With Republicans we get endless wars to protect Israel (Iraq was never a threat to US), and with Democrats we get socialism, where the federal government controls everything from Health Care and General Motors to speed limits. Americans don’t want that, every poll taken says so. If we took “R” and “D” off the voting ballots, Americans would be forced to look into a candidate’s background record – we need that.

  • Joe

    unofficial leader of the Tea Party nation, Sarah Palin: you have children of an age where they can go and fight for their country. Why aren’t they volunteering to go and fight? Is it because you rather have the brave, real Americans, fight a war where you will not? You can make excuses all you want but the fact remains, your children are safe here at home in the States. I, for one, know this and come any time you run for office (President) a thousand plus voices will rise up and defeat you.

  • Ei

    Republicans and Dems are afraid of a 3rd party. It would mean they would all have to do the job we sent them to do. No assurance of being voted back in when the other party (2 party system) doesn’t produce. Time for a Independent party with real candidates. This way we can vote all incumbents out and start over. Sounds like a great idea to me. Oh yeah, and 2 4 years terms for all politicians just like the President.

  • rhurt

    We are caustious as we should be, however, Palin has endorsed a couple of RINOs lately. I think we need to listen and watch her more
    closely. The major media is quite capable of a stunt like this, but
    still she seems to be standing on liberal ground as far as her endorsements go. Best to be careful. Both parties need to realize that the people are tired of Liberal-Progressive-Communists, and RINOs,
    so, the need to educate and train both parties to realize that anything less than Conservativism will take our country away from us.
    Then again, if we get RINOs back in the government, we’ll lose our country also-it’ll take a little longer-but the RINO will fail us again.

  • Alan

    Folks there are Liberal-Progressive-Communists in both major parties, (but mainly in the Democratic party) that is why we must get involved in both parties in the primaries to pick the most conservative Constitutionalist people to run for office. Harry Truman’s Democratic does not exist today, that does not mean that there are no Patriots in the party that believe in the Constitution, it means that the Overton Window of the Democratic Party has been Pushed further toward Liberal-Progressive-Communists goals!
    So fellow Tea Baggers what I am saying is Tea Baggers can be Registered as a Democratic, Republican, Independent, or Libertarian as long as you vote for the person that will best uphold Constitution of the United States of America.

    Yes, I did mention “The Overton Window” it is a good book, but it is the concept of the overton window that you must understand!

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