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Opposition To Kagan Nomination Mounting

June 29, 2010 by  

Opposition to Kagan nomination mounting A growing number of American voters believe that the Senate should not confirm Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan following the hearings that are scheduled to commence this week, according to a new Rasmussen Reports survey.

The poll found that 42 percent of Americans now oppose Kagan’s confirmation—up nine points from the last survey conducted the week after President Obama nominated her for the seat. Of the more than 1,000 registered voters polled, a total of 35 percent support Kagan’s nomination, while 23 percent remain undecided.

However, the vast majority of those surveyed feel the Senate hearings will be no more than a formality, as 84 percent believe she will be confirmed.

Meanwhile, with only a handful of days remaining before the final vote on her confirmation will take place, Republican leaders are making their final push to discredit Kagan—a nominee that they feel has very little practical, real-world legal experience.

Ms. Kagan "has less legal experience than any judge in the last 50 years…and most of her work has been political work," Senator Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) said in a recent interview with Fox News.

In fact, Kagan admitted that the majority of her work with the Clinton administration was of a political nature.

"Most of the time I spent in the White House, I did not serve as an attorney; I was instead a policy adviser," she said during a 2007 speech at West Point, quoted by The New York Times.
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  • DockyWocky

    Why waste time on fighting Kagan’s elevation to Supreme Court status when we already know it is a waste of hot air and that the liberal progressives already have the votes to see to her coronation. We should just be concentrating on reducing the numbers of liberal progressives come the Fall elections.

    • slickporsche

      Well, because this a lifetime postion. Do you really want a liberal quack like this thing on the supreme court? I don’t

      • Save America Susie

        While it is TRUE they serve most of their lives, the recent ones have RETIRED rather than die in office. The newest one to announce his retirement (in June of 2010), John Paul Stevens, is 90. Has served 35 years. But David Souter retired last year (June 2009) at the age of only 69! That is quite YOUNG when you think about it, in this day and age. Most serve longer. He was only a Supreme Court Justice since 1990. Not his full adult life. Only 20 years. Both started their S C careers under Republican Presidents. One has to wonder why Souter retired last year, so young….And why this timing?

        • http://INTERNETEXPLORER GUNDOCTOR

          MAYBE HE IS JUST FED UP WITH THE LIBCRAP AND ALL, AND HAS DECIDED TO
          SPEND THE REST OF HIS DAYS ENJOYING “LIFE” AFTER THE TIME HE HAS
          SERVED. HELL, I GAVE UNCLE SUGAR TWENTY YEARS+ OF MY LIFE, AND
          RETIRED WITH NO QUALMS. WHO ARE “YOU” TO QUESTION WHAT A PERSON
          WHO SERVED RESPONSIBLY DECIDES TO DO????
          ME THINKS YOU ARE THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TODAY…. LIBROCRATS!!!!!!!!

    • CJ

      Because if we didn’t “waste our time” as you say, the decision yesterday concerning the 2nd Ammendment might have been delayed and with her vote, gone the other way. Every battle is critical now.

  • Sharon Otter

    THANK YOU!!!We appreciate ALL YOU DO FOR US!!!Thank GOD for folks like you and ANY reporter–haha, we know how that works, rather–LACK OF REPORTERS! So ashamed to even say I live here anymore–we r the- laughing stock of the WORLD !I do not cares about being first–although for sports, ,( which I am not really into), world series & etc.what is wrong w/being first, second, OR THIRD

    • Kinetic1

      Please, what is your point and what does it have to do with this article? Did I miss something here? I’m not trying to be mean, I just want to understand each response as best I can.

      • EddieW

        (Obama & Hillary with the UN are determined to take our guns away from us, States are even now signing bills that guarantee that even the Federal Government cannot take our guns away….I marked in RED below)
        Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide
        6-28-2010
        Categorized in: American History, Constitution, Law, Second Amendment, Tenth Amendment

        US Supreme Court
        The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the Constitution’s “right to keep and bear arms” applies nationwide as a restraint on the ability of the federal, state and local governments to substantially limit its reach.

        In doing so, the justices, by a narrow 5-4 margin, signaled that less severe restrictions could survive legal challenges.

        Justice Samuel Alito, writing for the court, said the Second Amendment right “applies equally to the federal government and the states.”

        Not Racist…Not Violent….Just No Longer Silent!!!

        • James

          EddieW, The right to bear arms is an inalienable inherent right, it is not dependent on any document for its existence. It is not dependent on the Second Amendment for its existence. The amendment simply says the right “shall not be infringed.” The McDonald Court now says that restriction applies to states, which means congress may now regulate possession and use of arms within the states, the very thing the amendment was designed to prevent. We will learn that that was not a good thing.

  • Carole S Pederson

    The real tragedy is that most of us have no faith in the American system of justice and morality. We are in danger of losing our strong committment to “majority rules.”

    • CJ

      There lies the problem. The ideal of “majority rule” is DEMOCRACY in action. The country was founded as a REPUBLIC and we need to get back to that. As someone here best put it, democracy rule is 5 wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for lunch.

      • Carol

        We ARE a Republic, not supposed to be a democracy. Franklin replied: `A Republic, if you can keep it’. Now we are being tested. CAN we keep it? I sure do hope so!!!

        • EddieW

          It’s really boilinmg down to us, whether we keep our Republic or not…We have to fight back at every attack on freedom of speech, and on any freedoms we don’t want to lose…I write my Senators and Rep several times a week on bills I don’t like, or things I read that are coming up…here’s a link to find your Senators and Reps web form, so you can fill it out and e-mail them!!
          I found a Jewel  Here’s a website that lists all our Senators, and the way to connect to their webforms, and leave an message!!!
          http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml

          • http://INTERNETEXPLORER GUNDOCTOR

            I TOTALLY AGREE. BUT…..HOW MANY WHO BELIEVE AS WE DO WILL TAKE THE
            INITIATIVE TO DO SOMETHING????
            MEANWHILE, I”LL CONCENTRATE ON KEEPIN’ MY POWDER DRY!!!!!

    • Airangel

      we all need to get strong primary candidates to run this November…Colorado, you need to get behind Ken Buck in your primary coming up….he has as much said he will secure to border and is not backed by this elite money…he will be another Rhino upset…Idaho and Utah just got conservative primaries in but the November election will be tough and hard hitting…every agenda, every vote and every blog needs to go towards the fight in November…DO NOT BE COMPLACENT!

  • Glen

    We cannot afford to simply wait until Fall. A Supreme Court justice sits until they get tired of sitting which usually comes when they die. It appears that a filibuster for this would be supported by a majority of Americans.

    • William

      Glen I totaly agree with you. Jeff Sessions didn’t even put up much of a fight against her nomination. if she is confirmed folks you can kiss your freedom good by. keep your powder very dry as you may very well need it,

      • EddieW

        Perhaps that’s why the Supreme Court today said we have the right to bear arms…
        The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the Constitution’s “right to keep and bear arms” applies nationwide as a restraint on the ability of the federal, state and local governments to substantially limit its reach.

        • Mike In MI

          Dear Eddie W. – Yeah well, that’s fine if a S C Judge is a respecter of the Constitution and believes in upholding case history. This unscumable bag lies theough every tooth she’s got to hide the reality of what she is. She will vote her “conscience” (which I don’t believe she has – unless she gets it telepathically from her alter ego – BHO) at every turn. That means she’ll cite statutory case law, previous progressive lower courts (like the 9th Circuit), International Law determinaions or – if all else fails – personal preference, which trumps everything else because she’s a female, minority, (mentally) handicapped, elitist Harvard grad and past Dean of Harvard Law School and, therefore, superior.

        • http://INTERNETEXPLORER GUNDOCTOR

          PEOPLE LIKE YOU I COULD KISS AND HUG, BUT I WON’T, CAUSE PEOPLE
          WOULD THINK WE ARE “FUNNY”. HANG IN THERE…WE SHALL OVERCOME!!!

        • http://INTERNETEXPLORER GUNDOCTOR

          COULDN’T SAY IT BETTER!!!

  • Al Sieber

    God, it’s hard to look at this woman, this early in the morning. I believe she’ll be confirmed within a week, and no experience either? people like this make decisions based on their emotions.

    • steve

      somunds kind of like our out of his league amatuer president….

    • Mike In MI

      Steve – Now wait a minute. Think about it will you? He’s not out of his league – we just aren’t in his league. That’s why he doesn’t like us – or U.S. He’s a Chicago born and bread politician: he respects dough. Duh?

      The citizen’s in Tennessee didn’t Volunteer him enough votes or cash to get any federal help, nor have the people of Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida or Texas. How about that oil drilling moratorium and their ten thousands of jobs? (I prophesy he won’t send any FEMA, D. of H.S. or any other federal agency help to hurricane ravaged areas this year – unless they ante up a Senator or Representative or “soft” campaign $$$$$$.)

      We in Michigan expected him to act for a good, dutiful Democrat state in the Asian carp seal off from the Great Lakes’ chain. NOPE. We’re too poor to help him. So, his Chicago friends got his help. Bye, bye, $7 Billion fisheries, tourist and watercraft industries. That stuff’s all capitalistic anyway. He ain’t givin’ those profiteers a lick of help – ‘less the honkey, m.f.in’, bible huggin’, gun toters lick his butt and leave moui diniero ($$$$). Just like the poor suckers in the Gulf of Mex.

      Has he done anything for tornado hit areas this year? Is there any money left to do anything with, that isn’t set aside for the unions, his Wall Street Banker friends or ACORN? George Bush at least responded. What about B. Hussein Ob*%#:&? Or, is it against Sharia Law to assist, aid and comfort non-Muslims?

      I’m getting so sick of this crap I’m gonna’ pu…g-sh-sh-s-agk-kh-k.

  • JOHN OLIVEROS

    BY ALL MEANS,FILIBUSTER. WE MUST RESIST BY ALL LEGAL MEANS AVAILABLE.

    • Wlmitch1

      Agreed. A filibuster is imperative to prevent the confirmation of this dangerous Alinskyite Marxist radical.

      • William

        yes by all means FILIBUSTER FILIBUSTER FILIBUSTER TILL HELL FREEZE’S OVER,

        • kate8

          If Dems can’t get what they want by using the procedings which are in place, they just find a way around it by making up new rules. Or giving more power to their puppet messiah.

          • Smilee

            WHAT NEW RULES??????????? There are no new rules that is pure far right wing propaganda.

          • Mike In MI

            You guys are all just obsessed with this stuff. what right have you got to complain if the 28% majority enacts their rightful due? You have no reason to complain – Obumbler won…he wins. That’s why they nominated a minority…that’s what makes him THE majority.
            Understand?
            You better, and get used to it!!!

      • EddieW

        Hehe…I even asked my Democratic Senator to filibuster!!! He votes for everything any Democrat puts forth…don’t have to read it, if a Dem wrote it, it’s good enough for him!! I am gathering info on his votes, for the next time he runs for office…if I have the freedom of speech to use it…this Disclose bill cuts more of our freedom of speech, yet it’s unconstitutional…until Kagen gets in!!

  • Tom Martel

    Thats all we need now another of Obama goons on the judge seat.I hope they dont put her there.she kicked R.O.T.C. off a campus,she has no reason to understand the service,of new people trying to save the USA.

  • Sharon Mancuso

    KAgan will help Obamaa ruin this country,Please dump her. She is no Judge!!!!

    • Sharon Mancuso

      She is one ugly broad too..

      • Norm

        Sharon Mancuso
        Excellent comment. Are you a Lesbian?

        • slickporsche

          Oh! “for crying out loud” Normy are you still smokin that wacky tabacky? You need to get off that crap before it ruins your life. You will need all those brain cells to join the conservative movement. It takes brains and maturity to be a conservative. Good luck with that weed Abnormal Normy.

          • Smilee

            That’s funny, You have to have brain cells to be a conservative, well I was a part of the republican party when the conservative started taking over and pushed the moderates out in the eighties and early ninety’s when I left the party at age 52 (until then I had been a republican) I worked with these people on the executive board for seven years when I quit and personally got to know well the conservatives and their thinking and what stood out most to me was their lack of brains and how closed minded they all were and when it became unbearable I left after helping several conservative get elected which I now regret

          • kate8

            Oh yeah, slick, and liberals are sooooo intelligent and open-minded.

            What a crock.

            I personally don’t believe that you were a conservative, ever. Unless, perhaps, you somehow got involved with the wrong crowd and started smokin’ something that fried your brain. That could explain the switch.

          • Smilee

            kate8 says:
            June 29, 2010 at 12:10 pm

            Every word in my post is 100% true, your not believing me does nothing tio change that fact. You may think your a mind reader but you are not, my personal experience and it huge is that conservatives are largely real closed minded people who are out of touch with reality and your post simply reinforces that for me

          • kate8

            Sorry, slick. That comment WAS for smilee, not you.

            Smilee, I wish you well.

          • Mike In MI

            K88 – Are you saying that one you’re conversing with has multiple entities on board? Like Janus and Jambres? Or maybe the Medusa and evey head is fully conscious but alternately predominant?
            By George, you probably have something there – applicable to all of his sort. Oh,,, but, that’s being closed minded isn’t it?

            Or maybe, just aware of someone’s verbal expose’?

        • Kinetic1

          Norm,
          By now you must know that humor just upsets most of the people posting here, and I must admit that your approach was a bit harsh.

          That being said, SM, what does a persons appearance have to do with their ability to serve on the Supreme Court? Would I have swayed your opinion if I had said that Scalia looks like the troll under the bridge? How about Souter, a milk toast momma’s boy who looked like Don Knotts? Neither description is fair or speaks to their qualifications. Let’s stick to what does.

          • kate8

            Kinetic1, Let me get this straight. Conservative women, like Sarah Paling or Michelle Bachmann are fair game for ridicule, but liberal hound-dog women are off-limits. Especially when it’s true. LOL.

            You libs are a riot. Your double standards make me sick.

          • kate8

            That was Palin, for all you spelling and typo police.

            BTW, if you are going to aspire to public life, you’d better be able to take the heat. Libs like to pick those of minority status of some kind so they will be protected by PC (hate-speech) rules and laws.

            I say, PC no more.

          • Kinetic1

            The left has made many comments about Ms. Palin and Ms. Bachman, but they are directed at their comments and what they reflect about their intelligence. Here SM is attacking Ms. Kagan’s appearance. Not that I also suggested that Norm was out of line with his Lesbian remark. No one, of either party is out of bounds when you are responding to their comments and actions, but what is the point of attacking a person’s appearance?

            No matter how good your attacks make you feel about yourself, kate8, Ms. Kagan is still intelligent, and you end up looking like a superficial jerk. Good thing the election of Lincoln wasn’t left up to you.

          • Kinetic1

            Sorry, that was supposed to read “NOTE that I also suggested that Norm was out of line.”

          • kate8

            Are you kidding me, Smilee? Sarah Palin was attacked from every angle, including her appearance, her intelligence (which far exceeds any of the morons on the left), her dress, her family…every aspect of her being.

            You are twisting things, man.

            Your opinion that Kagan is of such high intellect is just that – your opinion. I see her as just another useful idiot of the left. They love to enlist those of alternate beliefs and lifestyles in order to promote their corrupt and nefarious agenda, while using PC to insulate themselves from critism.

          • kate8

            Smilee, you lefties equate intelligence with depravity. With those who call evil good, and good evil. Having a mind open to things which those of moral character find abhorrent.

            Anyone of traditional values and character you deem unintelligent. Including those who support the Constitution as it was written, and who believe in the rule of law. And who hold faith in a higher power.

          • Smilee

            kate8 says:
            June 29, 2010 at 1:37 pm

            I believe on Palin’s appearance the only thing I said was that she was very very attractive. Do you think that’s attacking her?? Its true I do not see much in intelligence there but that is from my own observation of her words and actions not anyone else’s opinion and have not personally attacked her other than contributing my own opinion of her. I did not twist anything that is your specialty. As far as Kagen’s intelligence goes that is not just my own opinion as you claim it is shared my many conservatives including some very famous conservative professionals, like Ted Olson one amongst many conservatives also of course shared by many liberals. Her personal take on any lifestyle I do not believe she has offered nor has she offered any agenda this is just you opinion totally based in the absence of any facts. Been listening to Kagen’s confirmation hearing today and it has been a long time since I have listened to such a display of great intelligence and thinking ability. She is remarkable and your biases and hatred cannot change that fact,

          • kate8

            Sorry, Smilee – when I have to backtrack so far to respond to responses, I lose track of to whom I’m responding. Those responses should have been to Kinetic1 and, anyway, was referring to the attacks from the media machine, not anyone posting here.

          • Kinetic1

            kate8,
            “Caribou Barbie” was about the only thing I heard that refers to her looks, and it’s not anything like what Kagan has had to deal with. It refers to the fact that she is attractive, but there is little to say for her intellect. It’s not the same as attacking her just for her looks, like so many have done on this site.

            Other names, like “pit bull with lipstick” came from her own mouth, and the attacks on her family? Well, when you spout off about parenting and abstinence, only to have your teenage daughter show up pregnant, it’s hard not to comment on the hypocrisy. In fact most of what she complains about IS hypocritical. She takes her family along for a cross country tour, dragging them up on stage at every chance and then complains that comments are being made about her family. You can’t use them as campaign props if you want them out of the light. Her clothes weren’t an issue until we heard how much money the campaign spent on them. She is supposed to be a model of fiscal moderation and restraint, not high priced outfits. It’s no worse than going after Edwards for his $400 hair cut.

            The real point, and one the right has trouble owning up to, is that Sarah Palin proved to be less than advertised. Her looks and rhetoric are a hit with the Tea Party (or they were) but she is unpopular with the moderates and a lightning rod for the left. Her record of spending is awful. She left Wasilla deeply in the red, and the only reason that Alaska looked good after she left (mid term) is that they receive major tax dollars from oil and are number 3 on the list of top ten states to receive more tax dollars than they put in. She levies false accusations, then tries to get by with a wink. She professes to have worldly experience based on the thinest of reasoning, then accuses the “lame stream media” of playing “gotcha” when they call her on it. You betcha!

            As to Kagan and her intellect, I think Smilee covered that very well. No need for me to add anything more.

        • EddieW

          C’mon we have enough battles to fight, we don’t need stoop to to insulting others!!

      • William

        yep. thats probably the biggest reason she’s a quer. so damned UGLY the guys wouldn’t look at her, can you even imagine looking at something like that across the breafast table???

        • Kinetic1

          Add William to the above. I came here for grown up conversation. I guess I should have known better.

          • libertytrain

            Both sides act like teenagers on occasion – I just ignore them when they do.

          • EddieW

            Gotta give em time to grow up!! perhaps if they live long enough, they will keep their noses to the grindstone of fighting for our freedoms and ignoring petty gripes!

          • American Citizen

            As to the price of her clothes during the campaign, it’s evident you haven’t read her book. She did not buy them, they were given back after the campaign was over. Hillary also had clothes given to her to wear during the campaign. Sheesh! More media madeup stuff that those on the left believe.

    • Sally

      Well I’m for her nomination. I’m for Obama and his willingness to clean up the mess that from past administrations created. We are in very tough times ( not created by Obama). This was created by big business gone wild, with out boundaries. Big Business like all of us need boundaries and limits. I have boundaries. I don’t want other people using my car without permission, anymore then I want big business using my air, water, etc with out my approve ether. I hope she makes it an can help stop big business from take over my rights even more. I would also like to see where and the party the was poled for this survey so I can understand what part of the country feels as they do about our nominee. Thank you

      • Lucille

        I listenend to Ms Kagan’s remarks on PBS yesterday, when asked several questions she did not directly answer them, but evaded the issues as a politician can. We are trying to clean out the govenment with honest citizens of the USA, and protect our country. Ms. Kagen has never been a judge, nor is she a lawyer. She is not qualified for the position because of her lack of experience in these areas.

        We have too many politicans and not enough knowledged based, representatives who are willing to stand up for the rights of the people for whom they work for and must take notice of the direction of the people, by the people, and for the people. We are not out here to win a popularity contest, because of someone’s good personality and interpersonal skills. There is too much “giving in” to what is taking the rights away from Americans, and not enough backbone to stand for the Constitution and to those who want to bring it under a dictatorial govenment.

        I urge everyone to say NO for this nominee’s confirmation within the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

        • Smilee

          Lucille

          Kagen is a lawyer and your saying otherwise will or does not change that, she has almost 30 years experience in various legal professions albeit not as a judge which is not a requirement to be a SC Judge. Currently she is the US SG who argues the government cases before the supreme court and that’s not` for the unqualified as it requires great legal skills and she is known as very good at it, even Ted Olson one of GW Bush’s SG during his administration has endorsed her as have other conservative lawyers which makes your statements not much more than a joke

          • Airangel

            Smilee…she is a policy maker and most of her experience is in advising and changing policies…she would be a “biased” judge… Based on her past rulings and “emotional” or “sensitivity” rulings, as Dean and with Clinton, it disqualifies her for this position which requires enforcement of the laws according to and in support of the Constitution period…you can not judge based on “how you think something should be”, that is why the Supreme Court has always been held in such regard…we can not keep putting individuals in with “their own agendas”…they need to uphold the constitution no matter how unfavorable or how much pressure is on them….yes she is intelligent which makes her scarier to have that kind of power!

          • Smilee

            Airangel says:
            June 29, 2010 at 2:30 pm

            Your entire post is nothing but your personal opinion and you gave nothing factual to support your opinions so it is my opinion that your opinion are totally incorrect as they make no sense.

          • Airangel

            I totally gave facts below…watch and see what comes out about her and the records they tried to conceal…she is for banning and burning books that don’t fit in with current Government mentality, her past records which they were grilling her on and which is on paper and HOW she answered speaks volumes about this woman! You just refuse to open your eyes and see the truth…there are many people that just can’t believe people could Lie so easily to serve a purpose but watch and see how it all plays out…you will see..she will get the nomination of that I have no doubt but she is not the best person for that position and for this country!

          • Smilee

            You are a real ding bat are you not!!

          • American Citizen

            An unqualified president (shows why we are getting deeper in doodoo) appointing an unqualified woman to the Supreme Court. If you read her past and how she thinks, she’s a scary individual to be nominated to the Supreme Court. She’s being very careful how she’s answering the questions as she doesn’t want to get Borked. She said so herself.

      • Julie

        You don’t want others using your car??!! What do you think spreading the wealth with all of Obama’s entitlement programs like Obamacare are all about? You will be lucky to have “your own car” to let some one use of your own free will. Yes this mess has been made by previous administrations but Obama is taking us down the road to Greece and Kagan is going to help him. Judges should not be making new laws anyway. Just enforcing the ones that exist!

        • Smilee

          Another sucker for the far right wing propaganda mill ditto ditto ditto, You seem to have it down pat Julie

          • kate8

            How about that “left-wing propaganda mill”, Smilee?

            You’ve fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Drunk the kool-aid. Bought the T-shirt…

          • Smilee

            My conclusions are based on my own thinking and sometimes I even agree with some conservative principals, something I find conservatives are incapable because they are programed and incapable of any open minded thinking.

      • kate8

        Sally, are you paying attention? If you were, you would realize that Big Business already owns and controls government, including Obama, Kagan, and all the rest. What they are doing, behind all the hullabaloo, is joining forces to create an even more powerful mechanism to control US!

        Wake up and smell the coffee, honey. Your still dreaming.

        • Smilee

          Do you really believe you know whats going on behind closed doors?? I think not!! Business is not real nuts about Obama which suggests they do not own as much of him as they would like too.

          • kate8

            Smilee, you obviously think you know better.

            We’ll see who was closer to the truth in the end, won’t we?

            Good luck.

  • slickporsche

    We at least need to call all of our senators and tell them how we feel about this Kagan. You vote for her and you will never get any votes from me or anyone I know, and you can take that to the bank. While you are at it, tell your senators how you feel about the disclose act. THere is already a real push to get as many bills rammed through as possible before November. We need to stop this madness if possible by calling, writing,emailing our representatives frequently so the do not think we forgot.

    • Norm

      slick
      Remember that you represent the right wing nut minority. Even the Republicans don’t buy your brand of tea bags.

      • Al Sieber

        How come you guy’s always pull out the tea bag crap? run out of intelligent thought.

        • Jeep

          Al, secretly tea bagging is a fantasy of the left they enjoy.

      • slickporsche

        How would you know as you are so high on weed. You dumbass liberals cannot even pour a glass of water without spilling half of it. How the hell do you expect to run a republic like ours. You damn fools have already spilled over half of it. You go ahead and follow that black ass bitch around and see what is gets you.

        • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

          Come on, people, let’s be civil here. Just yesterday Bob Livingston posted an article about the recent Supreme Court ruling on gun laws. The accopanying posts were so full of racist vitriol and veiled threats against the administration that Mr. Livingston took the article off his site, posts and all. I’m sure he doesn’t want the Secret Service up in his face asking questions, just because some of his subscribers can’t control their emotions. Remember, this is an open forum. Some pretty unpleasant people who you would not want to meet are monitoring every word.

          • libertytrain

            Jessica – I am a faithful Bob Livingston reader and there was no article like that yesterday – you must have seen it somewhere else – though I wouldn’t be surprised if he writes about it soon —-

    • William

      you are so right. and I have been doing just that. people that’s the reason obummer wants controll of the internet. he has recognised the fact that this is the best way in the world of getting information out to we the people and he does not want that, I am talking about accurat information. he only wants us to get the missinformation his puppets in the LAME STREME media feed us every day. that is the reason I only watc FOX news any more!!

    • kate8

      Slick, you mean like the way we shut down the WH and Congressional phonelines protesting Obamacare? And took to marching in the streets? And crowded townhalls with great big signs that spelled NO!

      They are really listening, aren’t they?

    • EddieW

      I’m sure the Senate will happily vote for the Disclose Act…then we can’t speak out against them within 4 months of an election…I don’t know if this means all people? or just bigger companies…If it’s all people, and my daily paper will print it, write me in jail, as I am trying to dump Senator Tim Johnson!! He votes for any bill any Demo puts forth..no questions asked!! A Demo stooge!!

  • Norm

    The Supreme Court, like the the Senate and House of Reps., works best when there is a balance of righties and lefties. When one side gains too much power, bad and often unpopular things can happen.
    Ms. Kagan is a liberal to be sure. She also has a first class mind and has had an impressive career so far.
    Kagan and Sotomayor provide a good balance to Roberts and Alito.
    She will be confirmed, and the court will continue to have a good balance of opinions and plenty of good, honest, debate.
    Apologies for probable name mispellings.

    • Al Sieber

      Bullsh$t Norm, what are you one of those politically incorrect liberals? do you think Kagan is gonna be fair to issues concerning the constitution?

      • William

        Al it is obviouse norm is another left leaning LIBERAL trying to blow smoke as liberals do,

    • Jeep

      So, Norm, you would support the idea that we need to shift from a completely controlled house, senate and white house to a more “balanced” state? I take it you will be voting Replubican in November to redress the current “imbalance”.

      • Norm

        T Davis
        I’ll vote for the candidate(s) I feel best represent my point of view. As I have stated a number of times, I am a registered Republican. I have been for more than 40 years. I supported GW Bush in 2000, Reagan, GHW Bush and a Republican Governor who is still serving in my State.
        In November 2010, current bets are that Repubs will make significant gains, but Dems will maintain small majorities in both houses.
        I will never support the lunitic right wing as peddled by Rush, Sean, and Glenn. Folks like Palin, Paul, Angle ETC. are an insult to the American people.

        • Jeep

          But, Norm you said, “The Supreme Court, like the the Senate and House of Reps., works best when there is a balance of righties and lefties. When one side gains too much power, bad and often unpopular things can happen.”

          It is interesting that now you say you will vote for the candidate that most aligns with your beliefs. So, which is it? Are you for redressing the balance, or do you vote your conscience? “Flip flopping” is not “Norm”-ally your style…

          • Norm

            Jeep
            If everyone votes their own views we will have a diverse congress and supreme court. Balance is the key. I live in a state whose legislative brance is 80% democratic. The Republican governor(she is a moderate) serves to hold back some of the ultra lefties. Sometimes gridlock is better than bad policies.

          • Jeep

            Norm, I believe we have had a similar discussion in the past. I had hoped you remembered. I just like poking fun at you! Although, we do disagree on most things I think we have found common ground in that whole “grid lock” thing. In fact, if congress just took summers off, I would be happy!

        • kate8

          Norm, I’d really like to know what part of the opinions put forth by those you mentioned you interpret as “lunatic”? All the conservatives I know view them as “common sense”.

          If you really think these folks are lunatic, I don’t see why you see yourself as Republican, since these folks embody the spirit of a true “republic”.

          • Norm

            kate8
            Moderate rebublicans represent a center-right philosophy. The neocons represent the extreme right. You have to admit that Glenn Beck is a loon. He lies, twists, and shows a total lack of intellegence. I can never support this.
            Scott Brown, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, and the old John McCain (before he flipped right) represent centrist republican positions.

          • kate8

            Brown, Snowe, Collins, McCain – I call them RINOs. They are decidedly to the LEFT of center.

            I do not think Glenn Beck is a loon. I think he has done a great deal of research, and puts forth an ideology that reflects that of our founding fathers. As does Rush and a few others.

            My criticism of them has always been that they don’t go far enough in what they comment about. And they often ridicule issues that are important to many of us, because of control coming down from the top.

            Snowe, Collins, Brown, McCain – have voted often with the left. To me, that makes them far too liberal for my taste.

          • kate8

            And why is it that demonstrating a conservative viewpoint, belief in our Constitutional Republican form of government, accountability to a higher power, and generally disagreeing with leftist ideology is an indication of lack of intelligence?

            I would say that the reverse is more true.

          • Norm

            kate8
            You neocons are so extreme you think the center is left.

            If you think Glenn is normal or posseses anything resembling intellegence, I can only offer my condolances. Somewhere your thinking and mine parted company. Now Rush is indeed clever, but he is as phoney as a three dollar bill. He has publicly stated that nobody would listen to him if he wasn’t extreme in his approach. He laughs all the way to the bank. He’s very entertaining.

            It’s also amazing how Obama is called, by the neocons, a Commie or Marxist. Oddly the Left extremists say he’s way to far right. I think he’s pretty centrist. He inherited the biggest diaster in my lifetime and he’s doing the best anyone could fairly be expected to do.

          • kate8

            First of all, Norm, I don’t consider my self Republican, as the party stands now. I am conservative. And you are right – we don’t see eye to eye. No condolences are called for here.

            You still haven’t stated just what these aforementioned media icons have said that you find so looney or unintelligent. Examples please, because I would consider Beck’s standpoint common sense.

            BTW, I rarely listen to Rush, but I do agree with the way Glenn Beck is presenting our history as it was before the revisionists took over.

          • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

            I think Glenn Beck is crazy, too, but that’s part of his appeal. He has a million and one ways of saying “The Commies are here, dammit, the Commies are here! Wake up!” But in the end, he’s just a guy on TV and the radio who talks trash and is good enough at it to get paid the big bucks. And he knows how to give you them ol’ “what can I do about it?” blues.

        • Mangrove Snapper

          Rush,Sean, Glenn !!! To far out for you Norm..I believe that Glenn would give out his phone number (the red phone) so you could call and dispute his assertions that can be backed up with facts (he many times gives the facts on a screen so you can view them).. As for Rush, yes he is bragadous (SP?) but he too can give you the facts in the words of the libs themselves..Now Sean does need to backup a little, but he too can give you the libs in their own words..All three of them also jump on the repubs when it is viewed that they too are going in a cockscrewed way… Where are the mouth pieces for the lefties??? They couldn’t keep enough listeners to maintain the radio stations needs from an audience !!! To each his own, I find them all entertaining and take none too seriously..I’m an independent and don’t buy into party dictation on my vote !!

          • kate8

            Mangrove, the only thing the media lefties can ever come up with anyway is that everyone who disagrees with them is racist. Now that I consider to be unintelligent and looney.

          • http://NONE COLLEEN

            All I have to say is I want to know how much youre being paid Norm? Very easy to see what Beck is all about, he cares , he researches and Ive done the homework also, better wake up Norm, or better yet, keep your head up your ass thank you , he’s on the money people, guys like Norm are losers

    • Airangel

      The left has a long history of using the courts to advance their agenda. In just the past decade, liberals on the Supreme Court argued that:

      1. There is no individual right to bear arms;
      2. The government can limit free speech by individuals and groups in political debates, while “virtual child pornography” remains protected;
      3. Private property can be seized by the government for use by private developers; and
      4. “Evolving standards of decency” change the meaning of the Constitution and allow judges to limit law enforcement.

      These radical leftist arguments need to be exposed as inconsistent with an original understanding of the Constitution. Our highest law is not an empty vessel to serve the cause of ever-larger government. Yet many on the left believe there is a fundamental “right to health care” — and the Supreme Court could hear a challenge to Obamacare.

      from the Heritage Foundation

    • EddieW

      To a point your right, but no so in the supreme Court!! She is against the Constitution, and calls it a collection of old papers!!! It’s really true that we should not have a Republican President and a Republican Senate…Disasterous, but a Dem Pres. and a Dem Senate is equally horrible!!!

  • slickporsche

    She is enough to give a man a heart attack. What a beast. It is good she was not a sitting judge in the last session. We may have lost our gun rights among other things.

  • Flynn

    Kagan is another one of Obama’s experienceless people. As he grobs into the darkness, it is only natural that Obama was attracted to others of like kind. This is an administration of politically-motivated, under achievers.

    • kate8

      Yes Flynn, they are all young ideologues. When the people pick babes for their leaders, they choose people lacking in wisdom.

  • slickporsche

    Hey Norm! Where you buy that weed your smokin? Is it maybe home grown.It sure is doing a good job of dulling your senses. WOW!

    • Norm

      slickporsche
      I repeat(I know your thinking is slow) you represent the lunatic fringe. You need to understand that. Thank God there are a majority of sane people in the US.

      • slickporsche

        By that I assume you mean the liberal enemies of the state, as the fringe? You just keep smokin that dope man. Do not give yourself credit for being one of the majority. I am one of the sane people that wants to save our republic from goons like you. You go sit in a corner somewhere while the rest of us fix this frikken mess you libs created.

        • Kinetic1

          WE LIBS! Did you miss that painful period just a few years back when, controlled by a Republican majority in all four branches we were attacked in our own back yard (after Bush and his team ignored the warning signs)? During this period, our own government allowed corporations to run roughshod over the American people, resulting in failures in housing, banking, etc. Rights of free speech and freedom from search and seizure were ripped from our hands. We gave up the moral high ground when we started allowing torture. A war in Iraq was started unnecessarily, and the justification for it changed over and over, even suggesting at one point that Sadam Hussein was linked to Al Quieda, then they denied that was ever suggested. A surplus was turned into the largest deficit in US history, both in terms of total amount and percentage of increase, all while giving huge tax breaks to the wealthiest 1%. Were you asleep during all this?

          I could go on, but the point is clear: Your argument that all our problems are the Libs fault does not hold water. No matter how many changes the Texas board of Education forces down our throats, history will show this to be true.

          • CJ

            You are obviously very short sighted. Problems don’t just happen overnight in the world. It takes years of development. Just because the issues came to light under a republican administration doesn’t mean they caused it. Most of the trouble was created by YEARS of progress under laws put into place by the democrats under Clinton.

          • Kinetic1

            CJ,
            I could just as easily point to Reagan’s policies. Yes, much of what we are now facing began years ago, but that does not excuse the decisions made down the road.

            While it is true that then President Clinton was convinced that Iraq had WMDs, the more up-to-date information coming from inspectors in the field was that there were none. Also, the Clinton administration warned the incoming Bush administration about Bin Laden, but reports then and since say that Bush chose to ignore them.

            Were corporations like Enron and AIG corrupt before Bush? Likely so. Was the housing bubble growing before Bush took office? It’s clear that it was. So, if I am willing to admit that the problems and successes of each administration are often a result of some actions taken by the previous administration, then why is practically EVERYTHING BAD reported on this site OBAMA’s fault? I’m not accusing you of this as I am not interested in reviewing all your posts, but by and large it is true of the rest.

            As long as I am on my soap box, why are any of you surprised by the assertion that you are the fringe? As this post develops, many of you are calling for a militia! For BLOOD! Think about the last time shedding America’s blood helped change anything? Think of the men who died and those who killed them. Lincoln was shot because he stood for freedom. The Kennedy boys were shot for their ideals as well. Reagan, well his shooter was a nut looking for notoriety just like John Lennon’s, but the point is it did nothing but to bolster the assassin’s cause.

            No one is talking about taking your guns. There has NEVER been a real move among the Dems to take your guns away, despite what you believe about Hillary’s latest talks. Yes, there are laws requiring registration and laws to restrict what kinds of guns you can own and where and when you can carry them, but do you really think it’s a good idea to let just anybody have whatever kind of gun they want? Do you think it’s wrong to restrict the ownership and use of 50 caliber machine guns?

            And now you want a call to arms. You are willing to let the government listen in on your phone calls, but you don’t want them to know you own guns. Well, I may not approve of the Patriot act, but at least it will help stop extremists like you from taking over.

          • Allan

            Kinetic said:

            “So, if I am willing to admit that the problems and successes of each administration are often a result of some actions taken by the previous administration, then why is practically EVERYTHING BAD reported on this site OBAMA’s fault?”

            -the oil leak is not Obama’s personal fault. the extent of its effects are due to bad leadership.
            -the financial crisis at the end of 2008 is not Obama’s personal fault. throwing good money after bad is, especially when your primary agenda is a socialist rather than capitalist fix.
            -the increased perceived weakness of America is Obama’s personal fault.
            -the disrespect Obama engenders in the military is his personal fault.
            -the results of “spend our way out of recession” are Obama’s personal fault, and he’s still encouraging European leaders to avoid restraint.
            -the increased rancor within the U.S. public is Obama’s personal fault.
            -increasing racial tension is his personal fault.
            -the increased political corruption around the White House is his personal fault.

            But what it all boils down to is that Obama and his supporters want to create a nanny state. Most of the people on this website, and about 70% of the country don’t. We’ll see who wins.

          • kate8

            Allan, very well said!

      • William

        too bad you dont fit into that catagory nor,

      • Mangrove Snapper

        Norm, if there had been a majority of sane people around this last election, the field hand would not had been elected ????

        • Smilee

          Sorry, but the majority did not agree with you and you lost

          • kate8

            Of course, Smiley, that majority included the mentally impaired, manipulated, indoctrinated, animated and the dead.

            Any means to and end.

            Just like Kagan (and also Obama) say anything, including claiming to be “moderate”, in order to get in, and then doing whatever they please. Lying is simply a tactic used by the left to get votes. It’s just “rhetoric”.

          • 45caliber

            I’m going to remember that the next time we have a conservative President and repeat it back to you.

          • Kinetic1

            kate8,
            Are you suggesting that the voters on the right do not include “the mentally impaired, manipulated, indoctrinated, animated and the dead”? Are you asking me to believe that Rush’s “ditto heads” are not manipulated? That those who hang on Hannity’s every word, the “Hannitized” are not indoctrinated. That Those who buy into Beck’s conspiracy theories are not often among the mentally impaired?

            Even if I agreed with you regarding President Obama’s actions, and I don’t, I am not stupid enough to suggest that you can depend on any candidate to be honest just because of his or her party affiliation. Nixon lied about Watergate, Clinton lied about Monica (though why his private life was any of our business I’ll never know) and no church going, god fearing, Republican ex flyer ever proved the point better than the oft dishonest George W. Bush.

          • kate8

            Smilee, those who listen to Rush et al do so because commentators like them echo the beliefs already held by them. With the MSM nothing but a propaganda arm of the left, it gives conservatives a place to go where they can listen and be heard.

            We are not so easily indoctrinated as you on the left. Our values are built on solid, timeless foundation, not on the emotional trend of the times. How do you think we are immune to the constant bombardment of leftist programming which is everywhere?

            It is people like you who have succombed to indoctrination.

          • kate8

            In addition, Smilee, we don’t deify our politicians like you guys on the left. We don’t support them blindly like you on the left.

            We support those who most operate from our values. We do not draw our values from them. When they do not reflect our values, we withdraw support.

            You on the left look to your politicians for guidance on how to think, act and believe. You support them regardless of how far they go, because you simply can’t see the truth behind the deception. When they are your “highest power”, your “gods”, you depend on them for everything. You lose your soul.

          • EddieW

            I believe our corrupt Media has betrayed us immensly, and one still cannot get the honest news from them…They pushed Obama to the forefront and kept him there…McCain was no better, God is this the best we can find out of the whole country for a President??? We have voted for the lessor evil for so long, we were presented with two equally great evils…The media directed the publics choice!!

          • Smilee

            kate8 says:
            June 29, 2010 at 12:50 pm

            Of course, Smiley, that majority included the mentally impaired, manipulated, indoctrinated, animated and the dead.

            ____________________________________________________________

            Boy are you totally confused, why are you answering some one else’s post thinking it is mine, this post and your next both do that. Now as to answering your answer to my post I believe there are as many and probably more mentally impaired, manipulated, indoctrinated, animated and the dead in the republican party as well, being a former republican I can attest that fact, why do you suppose I left the party, just to many misfits in it.

          • kate8

            Smilee, you are right. As I said in an earlier post, I did think I was responding to you, but instead it was to Kinetic1. I do apologize, although the two of you seem to be much in agreement.

            The thread gets so far down, and I forget who said what. Plus, I’m busy doing several things at once, so I do mess up at times.

          • kate8

            Excuse me, Smilee, but you don’t see any misfits among the Dems?

            That explains a lot. LOL.

          • Norm

            kate8
            Your comment is sensless. There is not one factin ti.

          • kate8

            Says you, Norm?

            I think you might find yourself in the minority here.

          • Kinetic1

            kate8
            I am amazed at how much you know about me. I had no idea that I was so blind! How did the church ever allow me to be a youth leader? Why did the congregation allow me to read the devotional and lead the hymns? How, as one who has never accepted the name of Republican, did I fail to be as holy as thou?

            Kate, I feel sorry for you. You believe that, because we are of differing political views that we could not sit in the same church. I, coming from a Christian background was taught not to judge the hearts of men based on their politics. I do not consider our political leaders anything more then men. I try to judge everyone by their words and actions and when they fail me, I reconsider. I have not been happy with everything President Obama has done, but I have not given up on him yet. I can not tell you how I will feel in 2012, but nothing is for certain.

            I’d like to share a few words with all of you;

            “In this enlightened age and in this land of equal liberty it is our boast, that a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of Laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest Offices that are known in the United States.”
            George Washington, from a letter to the members of the New Church in Baltimore.

            “…as he is the first gentleman of the cloth who has appeared in Congress, I cannot but wish he may be the last. Mixing the sacred character with that of the statesman, as is quite unnecessary at this time of day, in these colonies, is not attended with any good effects.
            John Adams to his wife Abigail.

            As mankind becomes more Liberal, they will be more apt to allow, that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protection of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations in examples of Justice and Liberality.
            George Washington.

  • slickporsche

    Obama knows what he wants. That is why he appoints as many like thinkers as he can get away with, because they will help him achieve his goals. This guy Obama needs to go asap. We, the country cannot withstand much more of this idiot. DId anyone here read or hear what happened in Wisconsin regarding BIDEN? How did all of Americas enemies get elected to office, and at the same time?

    • Kinetic1

      What’s the big deal? Biden was joking around with the owner, the owner suggested that Biden pay for his custard by lowering taxes and Biden called him a smart-ass. The owner even said that he had fun with Biden. If this is the level to which you will sink to find fault with the VP, I suggest you review the words of the last man in that position.

      • Jeep

        Noone has to “sink” to find fault with Biden…he provides the fodder all by himself.

        • Kinetic1

          He often does, though I think this one is not worth the print.

          • Jeep

            I have to agree…I watched the video several times, and it takes “interpretation” of his comments and body language to arrive at a negative conclusion. Although, at what point does he learn than certain “curse” words are not acceptable? (and, believe me, I curse way more than I should!) I’m just sayin’…

      • American Citizen

        Kinetic, the owner himself said he was taken by surprise by Biden’s response and does not think he was joking. He was a guest on Hannity last evening. You have to get the “real” news on Fox.

    • Smilee

      slickporsche says:
      June 29, 2010 at 6:41 am

      GW Bush and all his predecessors appointed their like thinkers as well so why would you not expect Obama to do the same. Elections have consequences and this is one of them, I take it your vote was for a loser in the last presidential election

      • 45caliber

        Smilee: Another thing I’m going to remember the next time we have a conservative President so I can repeat it back to you.

  • Wlmitch1

    Be aware that any public official can be impeached for “High Crimes and Misdemeanors” including Supreme Court Justices and Federal Judges. If Kagan and/or Sotomayor vote to rule in favor of any unconstitutional law, or make rulings based on foreign law, they can be impeached. Misdemeanors by public officials are not necessarily crimes. In the context of Constitutional Law and the Common Law, misdemeanor simply means “bad conduct” while in Office or on the bench. Legislating from the bench and/or dereliction of duty are therefore CIVIL, not necessarily criminal, MISDEMEANORS, thus grounds for impeachment.

    • slickporsche

      I believe you are correct in what you are saying, but just try and do it. You will see what happens. I also thought impeachment needed to be carried out by congress. I wish it were easy as I would like to see it happen.

      • Wlmitch1

        The solution is to vote for constitutional Conservatives and Tea Party candidates for Congress in the Republican Primary elections. The radical Left have been voting for radical Leftist candidates in the Democratic Primary elections, one to a few candidates at a time, for more than 40 years. That is how they took control of the Democratic Party. We have far less time to take control of the Republican Party than the Leftists have had to take control of the Democratic Party. If you are not a registered Republican, then by all means, register! Educate yourself on where each Republican candidate stands on the issues. Educate friends and relatives, get them to register, and GET OUT THE VOTE! Use Mr. Obama’s “YES WE CAN” and “HOPE AND CHANGE” slogans against him and vote for REAL HOPE AND CHANGE on November 2, 2010. YES WE CAN!

        • Airangel

          As for the Tea Party…REALLY STUDY YOUR CANDIDATES…I just heard Alan Grayson spent $20,000 to infiltrate and set up a Florida Tea Party worker to discredit it….these Lib’s with Millions will stop at nothing! It’s hard to fight what their money can do!

          • Wlmitch1

            Yes, I SAW that!! I received an email about Alan Grayson from the Heritage Foundation. He is a radical Leftist who started a fake organization with only a few members and named it the “Florida Tea Party.” As you wrote, Grayson also tried to set up a Tea Party activist for scandal. You give excellent advice – candidates who claim alliance to the Tea Party Movement MUST be vetted. That is also more reason for Tea Party activists not to trust Democrats, especially radical Leftist Democrats like Grayson. Another Alinskyite trick the radical Leftists are using, is to pose as Nazis, Kluxers, and other white supremicists at Tea Party rallies. Some of them carry racist signs at the rallies while their comrades shoot videos of them to post on sites such as YouTube. Some of them have already been caught doing this. Tea Party organizers have lookouts at the rallies who watch for racists and violent extremists (both genuine and phony), and ask them to leave immediately. Such nonsense is not tolerated by the Tea Party Movement.

        • EddieW

          We also need candidates who are not sold out to the CFR…Not all Republicans are honest, and we have to know they will support & strengthen the Constitution if elected…We need to cut the tar out of the Patriot Act…Orwell…calling it Patriot when it’s just the opposite!!

      • Mangrove Snapper

        You are correct in that asuumption, it would be almost impossible to get any thing goes with the congress stacked the way it is now!!! Good point…

      • kate8

        There is a mechanism in place for citizens to rally when Congress has turned on them. It’s called the “Grand Jury”, and is, in truth, completely apart from the government legal system.

        Government has perverted this provision over time to make us believe that they must be behind any such assembly. I think citizens attempted to do this in one state but, of course, they were simply ignored. This is really the big problem. If you get no attention, no press, you get no traction or credibility.

        I’m sure the founders foresaw a time when government would betray the people, and put forth the means to remedy this. I’m also sure that this is something that has been carefully hidden from us, so that we would think that we are helpless. Of what use is a republic of, by and for the people, if we have no recourse except for a corrupted electoral system?

        The PTB have used our safeguards, like a free-press, as tools to be used against us.

        • EddieW

          I’m really grateful to see so many states in the process of taking back their rights, and overturning Federall Governments policies!!! Even here in South Dakota we passed a gun bill that the Governemnt has no right to take away our guns…there are now 24 States, considering Secession, if the Government goes too far!!

        • Smilee

          kate8 says:
          June 29, 2010 at 12:59 pm

          There is a mechanism in place for citizens to rally when Congress has turned on them. It’s called the “Grand Jury”, and is, in truth, completely apart from the government legal system.

          ________________________________________________________

          A Grand Jury hears evidence and decides if there is a enough evidence for a criminal to be tried for his alleged crime, it never has anything to do with a civil case as you suggest and it is part of the legal system which you claim it is not, Is there any part of our government you understand??

          • kate8

            The Grand Jury was meant to be separate from the government. It was meant to be an avenue of recourse for the citizens, and can be called for by citizens without the approval of those in office.

            And, as I said, it was in reference to impeachment, since our treasonous Congress is not going to listen to the People.

          • kate8

            Yes, it is a problem if a Grand Jury finds evidence to bring an indictment, and no judge will hear the case.

            There must be a remedy for that, too. The problem is that the law has been taken away from the people and turned against us. Originally, the system was set up to protect us from government.

        • kate8

          BTW, this was in regard to impeachment.

          • Smilee

            This and your two posts right above make no sense, try sobering up and then try it again

          • kate8

            Smilee, I’ve seen nothing to demonstrate that you know what you are talking about. Perhaps you are a legend in your own mind.

  • J Cole

    What we do not need is another politician for a judge. We need someone with the experience that should be required for the position.
    We are not looking for a policy advisor. I have to wonder what criteria is used to confirm this person. Is it just another dog and pony show yet again? This country is going to the dogs.

    • slickporsche

      What we do not need, is another liberal on the supreme court. You are correct, it is going to the dogs, and we need to all get active, and do our part to stop this madness.

    • William

      yes it is just another dog and pony show,

  • Vicki

    Who is going to do the impeaching? Obama’s conduct should qualify for impeachment.

    • slickporsche

      Have you read the bill of rights or the constitution lately. It gives us a lot of power or say in what is happening at this very moment.WE can stop it, but it will take a lot of good people willing to sacrifice.

      • Andy

        It especially takes a person with a set of balls to start the impeachment process and it doesn’t appear that anyone in our govt. has a set of any size. They’re all afraid of each other and of losing their jobs which will happen come November due to their inaction. God Bless America.

      • Jeep

        Not that I am disagreeing with you…but, I would challenge you to re-read those two documents.

        The Bill of Rights does not give you anything. It affirms rights that you are inherently gifted with by your creator. And, that these rights are mandated to be protected by the govt. Remember, you cannot give someone something if it already belongs to them.

        The Constitution is at its core a document that sets limits on our govt. It does not set mandates on the people, but instead, it “infringes” and impedes the “rights” of our govt to act on our behalf.

        The libs would have us believe otherwise. But, our founders never intended for our govt to “bestow gifts” or “manna from Washington”, but simply to protect freedom, and otherwise stay out of the way of our INDIVIDUAL “pursuit of happiness”.

        • Mangrove Snapper

          Jeep you are absolutely correct and it is this protection of the rights of the people and the limits put on government that the field hand president and his handlers don’t like..Which in turn puts him at odds with the majority of the people..Impeachment is out with this congress, the ballot box and the fear that the voters can instill in their elected officials and most of all “TERM LIMITS” on all elected officials….

        • Smilee

          Jeep

          You better go back and reread the constitution and this time read the whole thing as you clearly do not understand its real meaning.

          • Jeep

            Are you serious? Please, explain to me how the Constitution should be interpreted…as my explanation is derived from over 200 years of writings by some of the most learned scholars. Or, are you of a mind that the “c”onstitution was a limiting factor on “We the People”?

          • Smilee

            I’m dead serious!!!

      • EddieW

        Our forefathers Pledged their Lives, their Fortunes and their Sacred Honor, to begin our Nation, should we not be able to do as much to keep it?

    • kate8

      It’s going to have to be up to the People.

      This was the reason we were given the right to form a GRAND JURY.

  • http://charter howe

    Many of the folks blogging are right. This confirmation process is a dog and pony show by the Democrats who are already convinced that they know whats best for WE THE PEOPLE no matter how radical Kagan is and she does have a radical liberal background. Since there are 11 democrats and 7 Republicans on the confirmation committee there is no doubt that there will be 11 democrats voting for Kagan to be the next supreme court justice. If this happens and you know it will, all I can say is show up at the poll and vote against these Obama loving corrupt politicians who are trying to socialize our way of life. I spent 29 years in the military to protect the Constitution and our way of life and I will not knuckle under to our muslim leader, comrade Pelosi or the fantastically idiotic Reid. This President brings a lawsuit against a sovereign state and fails to protect WE THE PEOPLE, then he trys to kill 84,000 American jobs in the Gulf with an ill thought out moratorium on oil drilling and is ramming high expenditure, high tax legislation down our throats at an alarming rate and the Obama administration continues to allow jobs and the economy to become a very low priority and all the while he is ignoring the pleas of 70% of WE THE PEOPLE who are crying out for a different kind of change other then the agenda he and the liberal democrats are following which will bankrupt the country and kill the American dream for our children and grandchildren. This President has done more to tear this country apart by creating devisive issues rather than to build on what makes us great as a nation. I do not want to see rioting and chaos like Greece and other nations who have learned the hard way, the ballt box and letters by a proactve group of constituents and being an informed person will eliminate violence.

    • William

      Howe I totaly agree with you but they have too big a toe hold now. I too spent over 20 years in the military. and we all took the same oath as they did and part of that oath is to protect our constitution from enimies from without and within. well at this time we have more from within than from without, keep your powder dry boys and girls,

      • EddieW

        It really seems to me that they are doing all the destruction they can do, knowing in November things might change…He want Kagen in, to destroy the Supreme Court, or to move it farther to the left!! The Disclose Act, so smaller companies hands will be tied, and they not allowed to tell the people what the Senators have been doing wrong…I don’t know if it will apply to us as individual citizens or not…it it does, and my newspaper will print the truth of Senator Johnson’s actions that I send them, write me in jail!!

    • Jeep

      Howe and William, thank you both for your service to our great Republic. Apparently, the left still doesn’t get it. You would think after the G20 conference and the dressing down “we” received from the major players they might sit back and think. But, these ideologically driven clowns are still going to try and put us further in debt. Does anyone really think they care about Kagan’s poll numbers?

    • Mangrove Snapper

      Howe, thank you for your service to the Nation.. However, violence will raise its ugly head due to the fact that there are a lot of unstable people out there that believe as the field hand president believes, “Chaos a tool of change and will provide a means to keep in check or even control the masses who do not want to engauge in violence but demand to be heard”..

      • EddieW

        The City of Toronto admitted it was Cops in the masks and combat boots that set the police car on fire, and did most of the bad things that were done…they arrested a bunch of innocent civilians, who were protesting peacefully, and wouldn’t even consider arresting those who had set the car on fire!! They knew they were cops…that’s why they wear masks!!

    • kate8

      howe, Congress is not interested in “what is best for We the People”.

      This is about one thing and one thing only: Power. Theirs. Over us.

  • slickporsche

    Howe you submitted a really good post. However I both agree and disagree with your last sentence.The ballot box is not like Santa Claus. Unfortunatly to get our republic back, it will more than likely take violence and spilled blood. Voting and believing in our way of life is probably what got us here. WE should have started revolting over a hundred years ago. However the damage this administation has done in such a short time is mind boggling. I truly hope we can do it in November, but I have this bad feeling that will not go away. I have called and called and emailed and emailed and they do not listen. I know I have not been the only one contacting them.

    • EddieW

      Do what I’m doing…When I write my Senator, and he votes the opposite way, I keep a file of it, I have a large file to bring him down when he runs for re-election…unless I don’t have the freedom of speech to use it..via the Disclose Act! I think it’s more for the truthful alternative news media and hopefully not citizens!!

  • slickporsche

    I think this female Ogre is just another nail in our coffin. The dems are now in power and will not listen even to their own people. They have a very hidden agenda for us and will stop at nothing to get there. They are already doing things to try and foil the voting in November, like the disclose act that is now headed for the senate. I would like to ask you all, what you are willing to do, after November, if voting does not help the situation? It is something to really think about.

    • kate8

      slick – “female ogre”!

      Beauty is as beauty does.

  • patrick

    well folks, hold on a second, when and if she is put into OUR supreme court for life, get ready for millions of unborn babies to be murdered and the abortions will be paid for with OUT tax dollars, you will not be able to buy or possess guns, the word GOD will not appear anywhere and we will be forced to honor and join the muslim’s of the world. or maybe i should just say, our life as we have known it, will end. sorry folks that’s all.

    • slickporsche

      Patrick they did vote in favor of the constitution in regards to guns yesterday. However, it can change in the future. Yes she is pro gay and pro abortion, so get ready for change. No, God is not allowed to appear anywhere, but Allah is ok. Maybe even Mohamed, the guy with a bomb in his turbin, and the pedifile. WHat happened, why do all the minorities have more rights than the rest of us??

  • s c

    Kagan’s soul belongs to Herr Obummer – not the American people. America can’t afford to have a Constitutiton-raping social engineer who was groomed for this position many years ago. She will be the Supreme Court version of Nuts Carter.
    You almost have to give those scumbag, anti-American progressives credit. They know that if you tell lies long enough, practice the reverse of what you preach, actively destroy the Constitution you pretend to care about and make career criminals seem like a better class of people, you’ll find someone dumb enough to think you serve a purpose in this life.
    I’d rather have an ex-con on the Supreme Court. It would be a ‘refreshing change,’ and we’d have a decidedly different perspective than what progressives are ‘offering’ us this time around.

    • slickporsche

      HaHa, thats a scary thought S.C., but you might be correct. Nearly anything would be better than these socilist liberals.

    • kate8

      sc, remember the “Omen” movies? Remember “Damien”? Conceived and born from an evil agenda?

      Sound like someone else’s beginnings?

  • Marilyn

    Kagan is not qualified to sit on Supreme Court. She’s intelligent but lacks the experience needed for such a prestigious position. She’s an Obama pick, rightly so, but a poor choice. Filibuster coming up, me thinks.

    • http://NONE COLLEEN

      Marilyn,
      From your mouth to Gods ears, we are screwed people

  • cajun62234

    Her speech would have contained more sincerity if a first-grader had read it…. Did she even have an advance notice of what she was going to say on camera???

  • http://gmail i41

    normie, if you think she looks delectable, you are one sick bastard of maybe you are himer. I see a hogish looking broad she when walks the halls of Congress, slapping her hoofs and jowls and talking crap. She hate the military, no matter what she says her and Sotamoron will vote their liberal mind set and not follow the Constitution.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      “Hogish looking broad”. That’s pretty funny. But you’re right, the poor lady is a bit of a clock-stopper, isn’t she?

      • Claire

        “Hogish looking broad–I am still laughing. Miss Piggy? Porky Pig? Oink, Oink. Now, keep in mind I am not calling her these names–just mentioning them since they popped up in my mind. Sorry, I’m getting silly.

  • Ramves

    I have read all these posts and agree with most of them. Our country is being destroyed at a very fast pace. We can discuss it all we want but that is not going to fix it. Getting it back on track is going to require action. We must rise up in arms now before it’s too late. They will disarm us if we wait much longer. We must start organizing now! I am ready.

    • slickporsche

      Wow a very astute observation indeed. Are there enough balls in this country to form a large and unified public malitia? It does need to be done very soon. Of course it will be difficult as the FBI will be all over the movement screaming terrorists and that is how they intend to stop any group trying to organize. However we know that this will undoubtedly be the only thing that will preserve our republic from total destruction. Voting will not be enough to save it.

      • EddieW

        When those foreign troops come knocking at your door, if everyone whould shoot one or two of them, they woul;d soon give it up!! Might be our only option, but if they even think we would do this, they will pick us up when we are at the grocery store, or other innocuous place!! I’m sorry as hell I sold all my guns, and to buy one now is registered, so they know right where to find em!!

    • Mangrove Snapper

      They can disarm you only if you let them !!!!

  • Jim H.

    Senator Sessions says Ms. Kagan ” has less legal experience than any Judge in the last 50 years…and most of her work has been political work.” Over 50 years ago was there someone with LESS experience than her? I would say she has the least experience than any judge to serve on the Supreme Court. If you agree or don’t agree with her views, the lack of experience should mean something.

  • Airangel

    They HAVE to Fillibuster her…it’s LIFETIME of changing policies. I posted this yesterday but just heard some more of her anti-Contstitutional and Anti-Military stand…she is for World policy! We have to STORM this while it’s HOT and FIGHT!

    After massive public outrage, the Clinton Library finally agreed to produce the documents on Kagan, but it is producing them in dribs and drabs so that Senators have not had time to properly review the more than 160,000 pages before the hearings on Kagan’s nomination begin today.

    Texas Senator John Cornyn (R-Tx) has said that Kagan herself told him that those documents would give “invaluable insight into how she would approach her job as a member of the Supreme Court.”

    The fact is the anti-gunners and their allies in the Senate do not want you to see the information contained in those documents.

    Neither does the Obama administration which is planning to assert executive privilege over documents that deal with Kagan’s work on “controversial” issues like “gun control.”

    They want to hide her positions from you.

    Leahy, with Obama’s blessing and support, specifically scheduled Kagan’s nomination hearings knowing that those documents are not going to be made available to the Senate, or to the public, i.e. you, in time to be adequately reviewed for the hearings.

    Leahy and his anti-gun friends know that once Kagan’s radical anti-Second Amendment views are confirmed through her work for the anti-gun Clinton administration, her confirmation will be less likely.

    The anti-gunners want the Kagan hearings over and done with long before the election cycle heats up so they can “spin” the public. They don’t want the public to remember their vote for an anti-Second Amendment nominee.

    They think the more time between the hearings and the November elections means the public will forget their anti-gun votes.

    They know that if the hearings were held during the Fall, the votes of the liberal anti-gunners in the Senate would be fresh in the minds of voters.

    The liberal anti-gunners are already gearing up, spending millions of dollars to ram this nomination through.

    “Organizing for America”, Obama’s political arm at the Democratic National Committee just launched a “Kagan for Justice Action Center.” They are pulling out all the stops and spending Millions of dollars to ram this nomination through

    Let your Senator know that you:

    *** want Kagan’s full record available before she can be confirmed;

    *** want these hearings delayed until those documents are produced;

    *** demand they vote against this anti-gun nominee and join a filibuster against her confirmation.

    • EddieW

      I think the vote is today…June 29th…I’ve asked both my Republican and Democratic Senator to even filibuster if necessary…my Dem will vote how the party wants him to vote on any issue…he has no individual brain!

  • Airangel

    Harvard only produces Policy – re-writers, not Constitutional Law enforcers! The most Liberal infiltrated University!

    • Mangrove Snapper

      Harvard produces nothing but ‘name recognition’and money contacts..Some of the best lawyers and judges that have served this Nation did not all come from ‘Harvard Hot Air Law School’…

      • Norm

        Mangrove Snapper
        But then even GW’s money couldn’t get him into Harvard Law. They do have standards.

        • Mangrove Snapper

          I don’t belive he had the intell of a liberal to believe one thing and then turn around and convience others of something else..Many say that he was not the brightest light bulb on the christmas tree light string..besides that Skull and Crossbones don’t hang out on Harvards campuses…

          • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

            Bush couldn’t have been all that dumb. You don’t earn an MBA, run a private business, and learn to fly a fighter jet by being a moron.

  • WarriorH

    Send her packing. Yesterdays 5-4 vote on 2nd amendment right was convincing enough for me. Assuredly, Kagan would have also been in that minority.

    • EddieW

      Scary!!! only onee vote kept the Constitution!!! Had Kagen been there, it would have tied, and no passage!!

  • slickporsche

    Does anyone know the mix on the 2nd amendment vote yesterday??I would assume that is was 5 conservatives for and 4 liberals against.

    • WarriorH

      Correct! Suprised?

  • http://att.net Deborah

    The Republican’s need to filabuster Kagen’s confirmation. This woman is an admitted Progressive. An associate described her as a Legal-Progressive Activist. Kagen will use her position on the court to change our Constitution.

    • slickporsche

      Of course, why else would Obama pick her for the job. He knows what he wants, and who to pick, for help in getting his wish.

      • Angel-Wanna-Be

        Kagan is going to be one of those Bobble-Head puppets, you know the ones like Manny, Moe and Jack, on the Pep Boys Commercial?__Whenever the puppeteer, pulls her string, she’ll say and do, whatever the puppet master wishes__She’s Just another Liberal activist!

        • Smilee

          You sure spun who she really is to the person you want her to be not who she really is. She is not an activist that statement is only far right wing propaganda which is never true!

          • American Citizen

            It’s evident you don’t really know her. Not once has she said she will uphold the Constitution. She keeps talking about “the Law”. Well, a lot of laws have been overturned by the courts because they are unconstitutional. What law is she talking about? She may have been a legal secretary, etc., but that is not the same as being a judge who has had to reach a decision that affects another person’s life. She has no record on that as to how she would rule in some instances. I am one who believes that one of the criteria for being on the Supreme Court should be to have a least have been a judge, even if only in traffic court. Also, they should have great knowledge of the Constitution as that is how they are supposed to rule, whether it’s constitutional.

    • Airangel

      Deborah…she is definitely another part of the plan to “break our existing laws” and advance the very elite agendas! Had she been on in place prior to our slight 5-4 gun victory I am confident it would not have passed. Her, Hillary, Obama, Holder and company are all Alinsky Radicals! “lie and fit in” do, say anything to gain the power!!! She will say what they want to gain the position and then watch-out once she has the power! Obama will never be impeached as Holder won’t process him and if it goes to someone else to, the Kagan will definitely have it go in Obama’s favor! It’s all “scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours”…these people stop at nothing to reach their goal!

    • Norm

      Deborah
      She’s got 59 Dems and I predict at least Repubs. It looks like a filabuster proof majority.

      • Norm

        correction: 5 repubs

      • EddieW

        There are Conservative Democtats, and also Independants who I believe will also vote against her!! God I hope so!!!!

      • Mangrove Snapper

        The fillibuster is out, the ‘boys’ don’t have the hair between their legs to fight for one !!!

  • greg

    Section 2 (2). He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two-thirds of the senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, judges of the Supreme Court, and all other officers of the United States, whose appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law: but the Congress may by law vest the appointment of such inferior officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the courts of law, or in the heads of departments. where does it say that any of thes judges can be Political Next where does it say a hearing when it says advice and consent provided two-thirds of the senators present this is Unconstitutional

  • Bill Kay

    First a La Raza member , and now this To support this atrocity is a disgrace and a insult to any reasonable I.Q. Filibuster till you drop and then get up a continue to FILIBUSTER until this unsightly bloob commie is run out of town. Prove the imposter in chief is in fact a Usurper and then recend all of his llegal non vetted appointments .

    • Norm

      Bill Kay
      Wow such unbiased clear, concise thinking!

      • EddieW

        The sad thing is Bill Kay may be right!! For sure we know now that Ovbama was not born in Hawaii…an official who had access to ALL records, said it!!

  • Ramves

    An organized civilian militia will only be labeled “Terrorist” if it is small. Remember the million man march? Putting together a group of that size, bearing the militant identity would give birth to new direction and thought.

    • EddieW

      yeah…remember that other million man TEA party march on Washington?…ABC said “tens of thousands”, all the other media had it even less than that!! If one hates Truth, it will devastate you!!!

  • mary

    I most certainly hope that Kagan does not get in but that is just a hope. No experience whatsoever as a judge and she is against our basic rights. :(

    • Smilee

      Mary

      A large number of the former supreme court justices had no experience as a judge and it is not required, but to say she is inexperienced in the law is totally false she has almost 30 years being employed in legal professions including her current job as solicitor general arguing cases before the supreme court. Watching her confirmation proceedings this morning shows just how skilled she is and how intelligent and knowledgeable this woman she really is, try as he might and he tried very hard Senator Kyl’s questions brought out the best in her and made him look out maneuvered as her answers showed how knowledgeable she is and how ineffective he was.

      • Norm

        Smilee
        Whatever is said about her, there is no doubt that she has an excellent mind. Her resume is remarkable. Superior intelligence is worth a lot of experience.

        She aint no Sarah Palin ya betcha.

        • Smilee

          Norm

          Palin, that’s kind of like comparing Einstein to a champanzee

          • Kinetic1

            Now now boys, Palin is a hot button. She may not be as intelligent, and she is more attractive, but no one is talking about Palin for the SC.

            Kagan is indeed a very smart person. Whether this will result in a great Justice, I don’t know. One thing I do know is that many experienced judges are not fit to sit on the Supreme Court. In fact, I can think of some people who have little experience with the law, but more than enough common sense to do a great job. The law and the constitution can be taught, but real “un-common” common sense is something that is only learned through living. I wish we had more of it in our government.

          • Smilee

            Kinetic1 says:
            June 29, 2010 at 11:36 am

            I agree with you and Palin is a hot button and very very attractive and will never be considered for a SC justice and thank God for that.

          • Kinetic1

            Now Smilee, “hot button” was not meant that way.

        • Mangrove Snapper

          Intell, is great, but the politics will cloud the judgement and law is forgotten…

      • Mangrove Snapper

        She has never separted her politics from her views concerning the law…

        • Smilee

          Sure she has, the fact you do not believe it does not make it so!

  • Brad

    IMHO, Miss Kagan does not have the qualifications for a SC justice, she has never been elected as a judge or ever been appointed a judge, she has been the left’s legal eagle, writing presidence. I’m sorry but I can’t support a nominee who has no experience. By looking back into her past all the alarm bells should be going going off loud and clear, this woman will only pollute the SC with socialist/marxist decissions, look at Justice Sotomayor and her recent rullings! Miss Kagan will use the bench to promote her socialist/marxist agenda, she doesn’t now how to judge a situation with a critical eye, being unbiased to either side of the ticket.

    • Smilee

      Brad says:
      June 29, 2010 at 9:53 am

      A large number of the former supreme court justices had no experience as a judge and it is not required, but to say she is inexperienced in the law is totally false she has almost 30 years being employed in legal professions including her current job as solicitor general arguing cases before the supreme court. Watching her confirmation proceedings shows just how skilled she is and how intelligent and knowledgeable this woman she really is, try as he might and he tried very hard Senator Kyl’s questions brought out the best in her and made him look out maneuvered as her answers showed how knowledgeable she is and how ineffective he was.

      • Jeep

        You keep referring to the “large number” without experience like that’s a good thing. It really only goes to show that political appointees are not uncommon, it does not prove that this is a “qualifier”. Your illogical leap is superfluous to the argument. Then again, I would expect nothing less as you have parroted the same thing over and over. What are you reading from? The DNC talking points memo?

      • Jeep

        Besides, it doesn’t take much thought to lie. Just like sotomayor, she lied about her stance on the second amendment, and then scuttled it the first chance she got. Well, done moron.

        • Smilee

          Your so Goofy!!!!

  • T Davis

    No…no…no…no…NO~!
    Not Now, Not Then, Not Her~!!
    Opposition To Kagan Nomination Mounting
    We Need ‘More Support for Border Security’ Issues~!
    A Firm Stand to Save Our Soil~!!!
    InTime2

    • EddieW

      Yeah! and Obama had the keep out signs posted 90 miles from the border!! The first 90 miles inside must be OK!! Idiocy!!!

  • ONTIME

    Here again is the problem the republican party has faced in the past, a large majority of the constituency will state their viewpoint and the RINO element will ignore anything and everything they say or do and torpedoe the position the constituents want.

    I fear this is the case with Kagan, most of the Real Republicans already know this is a useless nominee for any judge position, she is a political hack and has no court experience. She is nothing more than a cloned female resembalance of Barry Sotero the phony POTUS, adcademically inept at comonsense and lacking real world experience but idelogically set in her way. My bet is that our old hacks the RINO’s will help put her in a place where she should not ever be.

    Mayor said she understood the Constitutions 2nd amendment and agreed with it but voting on it she immeadiately reverted to her lib ideology and voted against the measure to uphold the amendment. Kagan is a lib academic and has not the ability to think beyond her political nose, she is no more than a insult to the SCOTUS the same as mayor is now.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Personally I don’t care what she looks like! She could be purple with yellow spots and orange hair! I just want someone in the position of Supreme Court Justice that will uphold the Constitution as it was written. Preferably this person would have much experience and be fair, ethical and have standards that echoes the Constitution. If she is seated, I don’t think this is what we are going to get. She is there only because she meets Barry’s criteria, no one else’s. She doesn’t need experience and as long as she does as she is told, all will be well with Barry and whoever is pulling his strings.

    • Norm

      Robin from Arcadia, IN
      If she is confirmed she will have more Obama’s support. She was confirmed to be Solicitor General by a vote of 61-31.

    • Smilee

      Robin from Arcadia, IN says:
      June 29, 2010 at 10:15 am

      She is there only because she meets Barry’s criteria, no one else’s. She doesn’t need experience and as long as she does as she is told, all will be well with Barry and whoever is pulling his strings.

      ____________________________________________________________________
      No SC justice once confirmed and seated answers to anyone as many presidents in the past have been forced to accept, I especially remember presidents Eisenhower, Ford and HW Bush complaining about their nominees who where confirmed,they all misjudged their nominee too, you may think you can mind read Kagen but you can’t and it is not likely anyone will tell her what to do this is just your fantasy and fantasies rarely are real.

      • Kinetic1

        So true. Just look at Justice Souter. Bush thought he knew him, but no one ever figured him out. In fact, Souter had been on Reagan’s short list as well. At first he was pretty much aligned with the right (about 85% of the time,) but did he ever move to the left!

  • Cary from AL.

    we do not need anyone who does not live under Gods moral law.
    we are about to clean house in the House and Senate in November and hopefully return some morals back to our government.
    Be sure and vote…
    If we agree with God we are right…and if not….
    God Bless America

    • Norm

      Cary from AL.
      Are the three “wise men” running or the religious rediculous?
      Surely you don’t see anything approaching Godliness in either party.

      • Mangrove Snapper

        Thats a fact Norm !!

  • http://Foxnews louise

    I agree – exactly with Robin. Kagan does not plan to follow the constitution !!! Beware. She will not admit that.

    • Norm

      louise
      Where did you buy your crystal ball – a church sale?

      • EddieW

        Nah…Louise is right! Kagen said the constitution is just a bunch of old papers!! she also has said the not everyone hsould have freedom of speech, so those two alone shows she has no regard for the Constitution!!

  • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

    I think Obama is pulling a slick bait-and-switch deal here. He knows full well that Kagan is totally unqualified for the Supreme Court and that the American people would reject her en masse. She won’t be confirmed. That will give him the opportunity to nominate an even more radical candidate, but one who is devious enough to hide his real face from the public long enough to get the confirmation. George Bush pulled the same stunt with Harriet Myers. Judge Roberts was an ultra-conservative, but at least he wasn’t her. That’s how he got confirmed.

    • Kinetic1

      Read Norm’s list below, then compare her with Harriet Myers. Ms. Myers had quite a carrier, but her understanding of constitutional law, as well as little to no experience as a litigator made her a much less likely candidate then Ms. Kagan. I don’t think this is anything other than what it appears to be.

      • Kinetic1

        Whoops, broke my own spell check rule. Ms. Myers had quite a CAREER! I’m not sure what kind of carrier she had.

  • Norm

    Elena Kagan facts:

    • If Kagan is confirmed, it will be the first time three women will serve on the high court at the same time; Kagan will be the fourth woman to serve on the Supreme Court.
    • Additionally, at age 50, she will be the youngest member of the current Supreme Court.
    • Kagan comes from a lifetime of public service.
    • She is a trailblazer – the first woman dean of Harvard Law School and the first woman Solicitor General of the United States.
    • Her unique background, as compared to the rest of the court (she is not a judge), will enrich the makeup of the court and bring a different perspective to the highest judicial body; this unique experience has been absent from the court since Justice O’Connor retired.
    • Kagan’s reputation is that of an overwhelming intellectual powerhouse.
    • Kagan is known for bringing ideological diversity to the faculty of Harvard Law School during her tenure as dean
    • She had the overwhelming bipartisan support of both Republican and Democratic former solicitors general during her confirmation to that position last year.
    • She was confirmed to be Solicitor General by a vote of 61-31.

    • Smilee

      Norm

      • She had the overwhelming bipartisan support of both Republican and Democratic former solicitors general during her confirmation to that position last year.

      _______________________________________________________________________

      Would you believe even Ted Olson support her, he was GW Bush’s SG who supported McCain in the last general election, she has got to be good to get his endorsement.

    • WarriorH

      Normy, with all those superlatives you espouse about this individual, you could be its’ agent. “Overwhelming Intellectual Powerhouse”! How does one achieve this stature? What individual or organization gives this award? My goodness.

    • Airangel

      Norm..you posted “Kagan is known for bringing ideological diversity to the faculty of Harvard Law School during her tenure as dean”

      This may or may not come out during this hearing but during her tenure as Dean…she definitely “IMPOSED” her ideological diversity!! She demanded that Blue Shield and Blue Cross “cover” TRANSGENDER SEX CHANGE surgeries!! In my book that is an “elective” surgery…the very thought of what she deems moral and “necessary” and the way she “intervenes” scares the bejeebers out of me!

      • Mangrove Snapper

        You may have a point here, elective surgery, elective life style according to some folks…

  • DANEL

    FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL YOU MISINFORMED,THE DIE IS CAST.WE,WILL NOT BENEFIT FROM THIS CHANGE AMERICA THEME THAT EXISTS IN AMERICA TODAY.BUT YOU MUST REMEMBER,THAT WE ALL HAD A HAND IN THIS UGLY CHANGE TAKING PLACE TODAY.YOU KNOW HOW?EVERY TIME WE AS GOOD AMERICAN VOTERS STOOD IN LINE FOR THE FREEBIES BEING FOSTERED BY ALL OUR DIRTY POLITICIANS DOWN OUR THROAT,WE NEVER OBJECTED,WE ALL ACCEPTED WHAT WAS SPEWED FROM THE MOUTHS (thereby,accepting)OF THESE SOCIALISTS,WHO WANT NOTHING MORE THAN TO CHANGE THE FACE OF AMERICA.THIS CHANGE WILL CONTINUE BECAUSE WE LIKE OUR FREEBIES,AND DON’T HAVE THE GUTS TO TELL GOVERNMENT TO GO TO HELL.WE,CREATED THIS MONSTER.LETS MAKE SURE IT DOESN’T ROAR ANY MORE.GET THIS GARBAGE OUT OF ALL OUR LIVES FOREVER.

    • Airangel

      What freebies? I don’t get any…guess I have been in the wrong lines! Whaaaa!

  • Ken & Mavis Bolin

    I can’t for my life keep looking at these people. Who sit in a place to be people who are to keep this nation a of laws. A nation based on the true God of Abraham Isaac & Jacob.
    I ask how much longer do we have to put up with this?? I ask when wiil we get these socilist, marxests bunch out. A long with barack hussien obama. He should have never been put in as president. I am praying for Gods Mercy on this nation as well all of us.

    Pray America Pray now don’t let up not for a breath kep praying

    Ken & Mavis Bolin

    • Smilee

      Ken & Mavis Bolin

      Those of us who prayed daily for his election in 2008 thought his winning was our answer to our prayers and believe he is. Beware when you think you know the mind of GOD, none of do and you cannot know as you and all of us know you cannot know the heart of anyone that includes President Obama

      • Mangrove Snapper

        What you have said might be very true, but has the field hand president under estimated the heart of the America populace once it has found out that they may have made a mistake in sending him to the WH ??? All will know come November 2010 and 2012 who has under estimated whom !!!

        • Claire

          We may all be in for a big surprise come November and 2012. I wouldn’t count on anything. There is too much division amongst the American people, plus it appears corruption rules. The elections may very well be “up for grabs.”

  • Sue

    Obama needs to find another nominee with a less socialistic philosophy. This is American. We don’t need someone who is so far left that even some of the Dems don’t agree. Stop the arm twisting by Obama and let the congress do what is best to preserve our constitution,(and it’s not Kagan.) We don’t need the International law for our country. Our Supreme Court is intelligent enough to hand down decisions based on our beliefs and culture. We need people on the supreme court bench who are loyal to our way of life, not the international law.We need people who love American and want to preserve it. We don’t owe anything to the European system. Let them do their own thing. We are American because our forefathers were unhappy with the harassment they were living under. America was started to get away from that life style. Now we have people trying to put us back under this same type of law. (look at the countries under dictatorship-Venezuela and Cube) Is that what we want? NO Kagan is a big step in that direction, Stop HER. Save America.

    • Smilee

      Forget it, she will be our next justice so get used to it!!!!!

  • Melody

    She is not as healthy as she appears. She will not live very long to make an impact one way or another. My gut feeling is she will be gone in 5 years.

    • Smilee

      Melody

      Quite the crystal ball you have there or are you planning her murder??

  • DANEL

    INTERNATIONAL LAW,IS NOT WHAT IS NEEDED IN OUR COUNTRY TODAY.BY CONFIRMING THIS PERSON,KAGAN,WE ARE REWRITING OUR CONSTITUTION,IN A WAY THAT PUTS OUR COUNTRY AT A DISADVANTAGE.WHY DID WE ULTIMATELY GO TO WAR WITH ENGLAND?TO FREE OURSELVES FROM THE TYRRANICAL RULE OF EUROPEAN AUTHORITY.WE,TODAY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO OUR FOREFATHERS,WHO CREATED A UNIQUE,MORAL,AND AUTHENTIC GOVERNMENT.PLEASE,DON’T THROW IT AWAY.THERE ARE OTHERS MORE QUALIFIED TO FILL THIS POSITION.I DON’T WANT TO REWRITE OUR CONSTITUTION.I WANT TO LIVE BY ITS INTERPRETATION ONLY.

    • Kinetic1

      By whose interpretation? The constitution is a document written by men. Words and their meaning change over time, so it is impossible to know exactly what the full intention of these men was. Those who are bent on a Christian nation are certain that the founders were all great men of Christ. Others note that Washington, among others refrained from mentioning Christ. His pastor noted that he never took communion and did not kneel with the congregation. As I was not there, I make no commitment as to what he and others believed. This inability to know for certain is the reason we chose people of experience and learning to sit on the bench.

      So who best to interpret our laws? Many on the right suggest that it must be those who promise to be “strict constitutionalists.” Men who have lived godly lives and profess to know the hearts and minds of the men who wrote these documents. But how can you know, without question the intentions of men who lived over 200 years ago? How can you know how they would react to the realities of today? Would the strength and permanence of our military have assuaged their commitment to an armed militia? Some would argue that it negates the need, while others believe that the founders would have been aghast at the size and power of our military. When they said “arms” did they mean small arms? Would they have included cannons at the time? How would they feel about rocket launchers now?

      I, speaking for myself alone can not imagine how anyone could see the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as the end to all arguments, or profess to know the minds of it’s originators.

      • Smilee

        How refreshing to see someone post who is in touch with reality, Thanks!

        • Kinetic1

          Shall we start a mutual admiration society? : )
          Thanks

      • Allan

        How about this one…

        “What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.”
        –George Washington, in a speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs May 12, 1779

        or this one…

        “O Most Glorious God, in Jesus Christ, my merciful and loving Father; I acknowledge and confess my guilt in the weak and imperfect performance of the duties of this day. I have called on Thee for pardon and forgiveness of my sins, but so coldly and carelessly that my prayers are become my sin, and they stand in need of pardon.”
        “ I have sinned against heaven and before Thee in thought, word, and deed. I have contemned Thy majesty and holy laws. I have likewise sinned by omitting what I ought to have done and committing what I ought not. I have rebelled against the light, despising Thy mercies and judgment, and broken my vows and promise. I have neglected the better things. My iniquities are multiplied and my sins are very great. I confess them, O Lord, with shame and sorrow, detestation and loathing and desire to be vile in my own eyes as I have rendered myself vile in Thine. I humbly beseech Thee to be merciful to me in the free pardon of my sins for the sake of Thy dear Son and only Savior Jesus Christ who came to call not the righteous, but sinners to repentance. Thou gavest Thy Son to die for me.”

        “Make me to know what is acceptable in Thy sight, and therein to delight, open the eyes of my understanding, and help me thoroughly to examine myself concerning my knowledge, faith, and repentance, increase my faith, and direct me to the true object, Jesus Christ the Way, the Truth, and the Life, …”

        –[personal prayer from his 24 page handwritten manuscript dated April 21-23, 1752

        • Kinetic1

          According to my research, and supported by many, many scholars this quote is not accurate, or even true. It has been lifted from the only document attributed to Washington that mentions Jesus. It was in response to the following:

          “That the said Delaware Nation have established a Town where numbers of them have embraced Christianity under the Instruction of the Reverend and worthy Mr David Ziesberger whose honest zealous Labors & good Examples have Induced many of them to listen to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which has been a means of introducing considerable order, Regularity and love of Peace into the Minds of the whole Nation—the[y] therefore hope Congress will countenance & promote the Mission of this Gentleman, so far as they may deem expedient; and they may rely that the Delaware Nation will afford every encouragement thereto in their Power.

          Washington Replied,
          “My ears hear with pleasure the other matters you mention. Congress will be glad to hear them too. You do well to wish to learn our arts and ways of life, and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are. Congress will do every thing they can to assist you in this wise intention; and to tie the knot of friendship and union so fast, that nothing shall ever be able to loose it.”

          This response says little about Washington’s religious beliefs and more about his support of using religion to bring a calming force. As for the prayer book, it was not “discovered” until almost 100 years after his death, and the handwriting has been shown not to be his.

          It should be noted that more than one man, including those who were religious leaders spoke of Washington’s reluctance to talk about his religious convictions.
          “Bishop William White, the Anglican clergyman who was well acquainted with GW wrote, “I knew no man who seemed so carefully to guard against the discoursing of himself or of his acts, or of anything pertaining to him. Rev. Samuel Miller added, GW habitually displayed an “unusual but uniform reticence on the subject of religion.”

          It seems odd to me that those who knew him so well were vastly less informed then a hand full of Christian Historians today.

          • Allan

            Our forefathers clearly supported a Christian framework.

      • Allan

        I can just see a professional athlete arguing with an umpire about a rule, saying:

        “W cannot profess to know what was in the mind of its originators”.

        or how about saying that to an IRS auditor about a tax rule.

      • Airangel

        the Laws have stood the test of time, they applied yesterday, today and tomorrow…they are sound and have served America well…it is “people” who choose to misinterpret them or change them to their way of thinking..that is un American…leave them alone or go live in another country if you don’t agree with America and what she was founded on and still stands for…

      • Mangrove Snapper

        You are starting to make a small step in the direction of putting the Constitution and the Bill of Rights on ice because the words don’t reflect how some percieve our societies these days..Point in mind the word gay.. In its original meaning of days old. the sexual connotation of today was not there, so in spirit the meaning of the word was highjacked to hide a word and life style that many profess to, “homosexual”..Why???? The same could be said of the interpretation of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights..What suits us today???? The person that is being questioned in DC will have to decide just what that meaning will be concerning cases that come before the Court…

      • Jeep

        I find it interesting that you resort to these arguments. It seems that the best part of your defense for changing traditional interprestations of the Constitution revolve around the argument that we cannot know what the founders intended. The fact is that the founders wrote exactly what they meant. There was much arguing and consternation about most of the terms used throughout. I would argue that most of what was written is clear enough, and if you disagree there are provisions for amending the language. What I find most disturbing is that liberal minded people appear to want to throw out what they disagree with and keep what they agree with without due process. Although the same can be said in a few cases on the other side, as well, this does not throw into question the liberal deconstruction that has been going on for 200 years.

    • Smilee

      Go sober up and then rewrite this post, you are truly mixed up and confused at this moment

    • EddieW

      Please Danel…don’t use caps…that’s the same as shouting at us!!

  • Rev Dale D Connell

    Tony Perkins, President and Founder of Family Research Council (www.frc.org), will be one of only a handful of advocates for the family, life, religious freedom and Biblical Sexuality who will be testifying Thursday the 24TH, at the Senate confirmaion hearing for Elena Kagan. We want to pray that his and the other testimonies will be effective in battling against Kagan’s appointment. We want this far lerftist socialist stopped in her tracks and send a message to President Obama.

  • DANEL

    HEY SMILEE,SOUNDS LIKE YOU THINK OBAMA IS OUR SAVIOR.IS THIS WHAT YOU THINK?BECAUSE,IF IT IS YOUR NAIVETE IS SHOWING.GOOD TALKING TO YA.

    • Smilee

      If He is God’s choice for us would you still think it naive??????????

      • EddieW

        God let us have our own free will…He is not God’s choice…he was the Media’s choice and they betrayed us by pushing him on the American people!!! New they are suffering, as many have ceased watching the alphavbet media, and the FCC wants to tax true journalists, and the truthful media to help them out…I wrote them a fax, and said the Media will not tell us the truth about what’s happening in our country, and have totally betrayed us…the reward for their betrayal is failure!!! They made their bed, let them “lie” in it!!

        • Mangrove Snapper

          Its about time someone recognized some of the truth of the matter…Good thinking…(Please excuse my spelling, I do shoot a hell of a lot better)

      • Airangel

        God doesn’t choose those that go against his will and Ten Comandments!

        • Airangel

          oops! Commandments (2 m’s)…my bad

        • Smilee

          Airangel says:
          June 29, 2010 at 4:24 pm

          God doesn’t choose those that go against his will and Ten Comandments!
          Reply

          Whom are you saying went against his will and Ten Commandments??????????
          Did not he call Paul (saul) when he was guilty of your accusations

          • Airangel

            Thou shall not lie! That is all Obama has done. He is a total deceiver!

        • Claire

          Airangel–Americans have been lied to by all of them, Democrats and Republicans Rinos alike. We have been spied on for years and lied to for years.

          • Airangel

            I know Claire, I’m not sure there are any honest people that care enough and have the backbone and conviction to steer this country back into a moral direction where human decency is at the forefront

          • Claire

            Airangel– I find it really pitiful that we are all seeking honest, decent, people with the moral backbone to get America back on her feet. I often wonder what this world has come to. All I can say is that as a country we cannot continue down this path of destruction. We are still a proud people, and it is tragic that the elected politicians cannot put their egos aside and do the job they were elected to do. I no longer have any trust, and it makes me mad to feel this way.

    • Kinetic1

      DANEL,
      Funny thing about prayer: It has been said that God hears all prayers, and I think I can believe that. However, we choose to see the answer only when it appears that he agreed with us.

      I don’t know that the Obama administration is the answer to my prayers. I don’t even know if God bothers with what might be considered the petty arguments of our world. I’d like to think that our creator, God or providence is more concerned with the suffering in this world and guiding whoever is in power to help alleviate it. Either way, what I know for certain is that, in the greater scheme of things not only do I not know everything, I know very little. I hope you (all of you) know that about yourselves as well.

  • chuck b

    whats coming off here? we do not have one protestant sitting on the supreme court. this is dangerous stuff, of course when you look at the administration there’s none in the white house.

    • Kinetic1

      I understand that you are trying to be cute about the President, but Ms. Clinton, who was raised a Methodist doesn’t count?

  • 45caliber

    Kagan dislikes the military – not an uncommon liberal thought. She dislikes guns in the hands of the civilian population which might object to other things the liberals would like to do. She supports minorities over the rights of the majority. She doesn’t support marriage between a man and woman. She supports abortion on demand – with all of us paying for it. She supports censurship by the government.

    So far I’ve not seen a single reason for her to be in office.

  • 45caliber

    I really think we need to split the US in half. The Liberals take all of the eastern half and the conservatives take all but California in the Western half. Then we wait about ten years. At the end of that time, the liberals will have basically ruined their half and will be begging to get back into the western half again. We could make some excellent political deals with them then.

    • Smilee

      Quite the fantasy you got there

    • chuck b

      45 caliber

      hey! don’t abandon california. all we have to do is redistrict the state, send the mexicans back to mexico (illegals) remove the democrats (that will be mostly minorities and fed, state, union workers) send them to illinois, michighan and wisconsin. only sworn patriotic citizens will be allowed to stay. california can be great again, but these necessary steps will have to be taken. then i’m all for splitting it up, it’s just a matter of time before this country will be in a another civil war. it’s coming!!

      • Claire

        chuck b—NO! NO! NO! don’t sent them to Illinois!! Send them back to Mexico.

    • Kinetic1

      WOW 45, have you gone off half cocked!
      First, supporting the rights of same sex couples is not the same as not supporting marriage between a man and a woman. Personally, I think the government should get out of the marriage business. Let them provide the license and a civil union, but let the church decide who is MARRIED. If a church is ok with same sex marriage, so be it.

      As to your and chuck b’s ideas about splitting the country; as a fourth generation Californian I would LOVE it if the people of the rockies, the central states and the mid west would stop coming here. My community by the beach was ruined by people coming here from out of state. And chuck, most of the Republicans I know came from out of state, so keep your paws off. Maybe we’ll give you San Diego.

      Oh, how would we survive without food? Right, we grow much of it here. Cars, we love cars! Hmm, we build them here. Ohhh, the dollars from tourism? Shoot, people from all over the world come here to vacation, and to the upper East Coast. You really can’t say the same for Toledo. Oh well, we’ll get through some how.

      Truth is, I love parts of Virginia and Georgia, though they were too muggy in the summer for my taste. My wife came here from Ohio via Florida, so I suppose I don’t mind a few transplants. Just quit trying to muck up our state with oil wells and deforestation.

      • Mangrove Snapper

        Thats about the same feelings they have down in the Florida Keys, they want the ‘carpetbaggers’ to go back up north and take their crazy ideas with them…

      • Jeep

        I would agree that govt should get out of the business of marriage. Really no need for a license issued by the state if the tax laws are changed to give no benefit, and maybe get rid of estate taxes for good as it would then not be the govts business who your beneficiaries are either. Wow! We could get rid of a lot of govt influence over our lives. I am all for it.

      • Jeep

        I do have to ask though, if Cal has sooo many great things going for it (grow your own food, making cars, etc) why is the state broke? A little mismanagement perhaps?

        • JeffH

          Jeep, a little ya think? Once the 5th largest economy in the world and now reduced to begging for charity…These liberal minded “MORONS” continue to pass spending legislation without a minor glim of hope to rebuilding what was once a powerful industrial leader and has become the eco-enviro illegal immigrant capital of the “free” world…California is losing it’s tax paying population in record numbers and I’ll be part of that outbound migration soon enough.

    • Claire

      45caliber– I would sincerely hate to see America divided. I love our states. I have never been to California. I just keep thinking that united we stand, divided we fall. Americans MUST work together somehow–and take on the government. Surely we can do this. Just think, if we ALL banded together, we could oust the government and start anew. I know I am willing to give it a go. The impossible dream? Nothing is impossible if we set our minds to it.

  • Charlie

    Ms. Kagan “has less legal experience than any judge in the last 50 years…and most of her work has been political work,” Senator Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) said in a recent interview with Fox News.

    In fact, Kagan admitted that the majority of her work with the Clinton administration was of a political nature. Clinton hurt the seniors when he was responsible double dipping the seniors citizens . First they make money and social security is taken out of the pay check Then when the get their social security check they have to declare it as income and more taxes taken ack fo the gov. this is un fair as the costs and all go up for the seniors and they gave their years…. She supported Bill?? What else did Ms Kagan do? She when asked several questions does not directly answer them, but evaded the issues as a politician can. “Most of the time I spent in the White House, I did not serve as an attorney; I was instead a policy adviser,”

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    • Smilee

      Charlie

      To put things in the proper perspective, She was a lawyer in the Clinton administration and did legal work for the administration and it included more than just legal advise on political matters but in all cases she advocated for the administration and did not set agendas or policy, John Roberts at one time did the same thing. Do you understand what a lawyers job is? Your so called double dip is inaccurate too, SS Inccme taxes was a compromise with the republican congress who wanted to tax all SS benefits and in the end with the compromise you pay no taxes unless your income exceeds $35,000.00 and is on a sliding scale above that and if it exceeds $180,000.00 you then pay on all your SS benefits, most people pay no taxes on their SS benefits because their total income is under $35,000.00 so some would say if it had not been for Clinton they would be paying lot more income taxes. He did not propose the bill but signed it into law once this compromise was reached, so quit blaming republican enacted laws on Clinton just because you do not like him, the truth would not be a bad idea either. Sessions is all political rhetoric on this and Fox news, well enough said

      • Jeep

        So, to put things in proper perspective, shouldn’t you go back to when this ponzi scheme was enacted in the first place? I believe it was the dems who started this (of course, Madoff went to jail for something similar), and wasn’t it under Carter when the regular dipping into the fund to pay for other govt programs began? So, when the tax laws were enacted under Clinton it was to try and keep a greatly abused system viable?

        • Smilee

          You are still confused, mixed up and goofy

  • Carol

    I have read both of Obama’s books. How many of you have? I am almost finished reading “Manchurian President”, which is no fun at all, but I feel it is my duty. I see Obama, his cronies, and his cabinet as crooks who are trying to destroy our great country. Most of them are radicals, many are Communists and Socialists, and have been all of their lives. He was groomed for the office by them and their cohorts.
    I changed from a Democrat last week to a Republican. Can’t agree with either party, but am learning about our history as fast as I can. We are shredding the Constitution and I hope Kagen does NOT go into the Supreme Court!!!! I am a senior citizen. Where are our good people to lead us? I want my country back!!! I am so proud of the Supreme Court for the ruling on guns!!! When only cops have guns, it’s called a “police state”. An unarmed citizenry is slavery to government tyranny. One of the ordinary modes, by which tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offense to keep arms.” Before governments take over they take the guns of the people.

    • American Citizen

      One of Obama’s cronies has made the claim that he wrote the book, “Dreams of My Father”, not Obama. I don’t know if it’s true or not.

  • DANEL

    SMILEE,WITH YOUR PASSION FOR ALL THINGS GREAT,I CANNOT DEAL WITH YOUR RHETORICAL QUESTION.

  • DANEL

    KINECTIC 1
    YOU ARE PROBABLY A KIND AND GOOD PERSON.YOU WOULD NOT HURT ANY LIVING THING.HOWEVER,THE WORLD DOES NOT LIVE IN YOUR REALITY.IT HAS TO STRUGGLE FOR ANSWERS ALL DAY.THERE IS A REASONING DIFFERENCE IN YOUR PERCEPTION OF OUR LIVING OUR LIVES IN YOUR WORLD.IN MY REALITY,I KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG,GOOD AND EVIL.CAN YOU BE SO BOLD AS TO SAY THE SAME ABOUT YOUR WORLD?

    • Kinetic1

      I see good and evil every day. I consoled my daughter when one of her class mates was run down by a drunk on a motorcycle. A man who had been arrested for DUI 8 TIMES BEFORE! I helped my bother when his wife, a women born south of our border ran off with their children. I have known good people who crossed our border illegally to earn money in the fields, and others who came to commit crimes. I know both Republicans and Democrats who have done good and evil and I recognize that it is not always clear which is which.

      It is those who claim to be able to see black and white that I don’t trust. Those who point to the Bible and shout “it is here! This is the true word of God. Follow me.” Men have used the Bible to support their case as often as they have wrapped themselves in the flag. They have misquoted and misrepresented both in error and with great intent. I have seen evil, and the most evil of all are those who would use religion as a tool for a selfish end.

      • Mangrove Snapper

        K1

        AMEN !! You have said a mouth full !!!

  • http://PersonLibertyDigest Dee

    I certainly hope that elena kagan does not get it. The dumocratic party is in control and they are all obama puppets, so she will probably get confirmed. What a shame.
    She is a liberal. She is anti-military.
    The military has for years fought for our liberty and freedom and yes they are protecting kagan’s sorry ass butt.
    We will lose more liberties and freedom if she does get in.

  • mehoward

    Elena Kagan has no experience as a judge, Obama had no experience.
    Put them together and you get nothing. Kagan is a life time of nothing and Obama is only 4 years if we are lucky. mehpensacola,fl

  • Angel

    Jeff Sessions = sour grapes

    • Smilee

      You are far to kind!!!

      • Mangrove Snapper

        I agree..Jeff is as inept as all Repubs are.. The feeling by the Repubs is that ‘you don’t need to engage in blood letting’ and that is a mistake..The sooner the Repubs understand that they are in a war with a very radical way of thinking the sooner they’ll be able to break even on the political field…Stop playing nice, throw back what is thrown at you and go toe to toe with them….

  • DANEL

    KINECTIC 1,IF YOU BELIEVE THAT AN INANIMATE OBJECT (our constitution)IS A LIVING AND BREATHING OBJECT,YOU’RE WRONG.THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT CHANGE,HOWEVER,PEOPLES INTERPRETATION OF ITS MEANING CHANGES.IS THAT NOT WHAT YOU MEANT TO SAY?AND IF IN FACT THAT IS WHAT YOU MEANT TO SAY THEN YOU MUST TURN TO THE CLARITY OF ITS ORIGINAL INTENT.YOU DO NOT SHARE ITS CLARITY.

    • Kinetic1

      No, I do not give life to objects, but I recognize the truth about people. The English language has changed considerably since the days of our county’s founding. The way in which we live has changed as well. A leader in those times was obligated to attend and serve in the church of their community. Our leaders served in their churches, however they also stated that no man’s fitness to serve should be judged by his adherence to faith. So I ask again, how do you know their intent? What was their intent when they spoke of the right to bear arms? To freedom of religion? The more we read from their own writings, the more these questions arise.

      • American Citizen

        Their intent is well know. Read the Federalist papers and other papers the wrote.

        • American Citizen

          By the way, they were men of God, deists, and the Constitution was underwritten with their principles in mind. We have been well served by their actions and it is to our detriment to try to change them. Our country is slowly going the way of all the great civilizations because we are not adhering to those principles. Those who will not study history are bound to repeat it.

  • http:windowslive C. Baum

    So… In other words we will be priviledged as far as seeing this chunky frog of a woman on the supreme court for life? Ugh!!!!!!!!!! Not to mention the hypocrisy of Obama when it comes to his get fit principal.. Aye? And I won’t get into her lack of experience and questionable beliefs… Just another Obummer plant.. Just another means to an end as far as reaching his Czarist goals. Just when will we wake up and decide to impeach this joker? God knows he’s pulled enough on the American people and the next presidential election is most likely going to be stacked against us as well.. Since the Obama zombie club is about to be enlarged. I say: Let’s save this country before there’s nothing left to save ; not to mention our constitution…I also say: Bravo to those Toronto protesters who showed they have guts..

    • Smilee

      You are so totally ignorant!

      A large number of the former supreme court justices had no experience as a judge and it is not required, but to say she is inexperienced in the law is totally false she has had 25 years being employed in legal professions including her current job as solicitor general arguing cases before the supreme court which requires equally and probably more skills than a trial lawyer. Watching her confirmation proceedings this morning shows just how skilled she is and how intelligent and knowledgeable this woman really is, try as he might and he tried very hard Senator Kyl’s questions brought out the best in her and made him look out maneuvered as her answers showed how knowledgeable she is and how ineffective he was. You seem to be motived more by hate than the facts about the Obama administration and Ms. Kagen.

  • American Citizen

    She said today that politics plays no part in her decisions, but her record says otherwise.

    • Smilee

      Total Baloney!!

    • Claire

      American Citizen–I heard that too. Do I believe it? NO

      • American Citizen

        This was said and put up by people who researched her.

        • American Citizen

          Sorry, I was trying to reply to Smilee. He wouldn’t know the truth if it smacked him in the face.

  • meteorlady

    She lies to get the job, but she will probably get approved. Sad. No experience as a trial lawyer and only experience as an activist.

    • Smilee

      What lies has she told?? When was she an activist, you sure you are not confusing it with being a legal advocate, which is quite different?

      Many have tried to make her out to be an activist and to date have been unable to!

      • Claire

        Smilee—Oh, come on now. She shouldn’t even be considered for this position. Wasn’t she against the military in some of her past shenanigans? There are people on this site that would do a better job than her! Just what we need- another wishy-washy person in government.

        • Smilee

          I disagree with you, she was against discrimination in the military, not the military itself.

          • Allan

            That’s the problem Smilee.

            If liberals don’t approve of an industry/organization, they target an aspect in order shut down the whole thing. Until recently, they wouldn’t admit motives. That began to change under Obama.

            Oil leak. Response, stop all deep sea drilling. Stated goal, safety. Real goal, stop use of oil so greens take control pf energy business.

            Don’t ask don’t tell. Response, block military recruiting. Stated goal, modernization. Real goal, dismantle the military.

            Spotted owl. Response, suspend logging. Stated goal, prevent extinction. Real goal, dismantle the timber industry.

            Policy relating to homosexual leaders. Response, prevent Boy Scout meetings. Real goal, extinguish traditional values in favor of a diversity program.

            Too much choice under the Constitution…Response, re-invent the Constitution. Stated goal, update for modern challenges. Real goal, abandon in favor of transnational progressivism, a concept of postnational global citizenship with authority of international institutions over the sovereignty of individual nations.

            Here’s the blueprint:

            The Core beliefs of transnational progressivism, as defined by Hudson Institute Fellow John Fonte in 2001:

            1. Advocacy of identity groups rather than individuals: The key political unit is not the individual citizen…but the ascriptive group (racial, ethnic, or gender) into which one is born.

            2. An oppressor/victim dichotomy: The Hegelian Marxist “privileged vs. marginalized” dichotomy with immigrant groups designated as victims.

            3. Proportional representation by group: “Victim” groups should be represented in all professions roughly proportionate to their percentage of the population. If not, there is a problem of “underrepresentation”.

            4. Change in institutional values: The distinct worldviews of ethnic, gender, and linguistic minorities must be represented within dominant social and political institutions.

            5. Change in the assimilation paradigm: The traditional paradigm based on the assimilation of immigrants into an existing American civic culture is obsolete and must be changed to a framework that promotes “diversity,” defined as “group proportionalism”.

            6. Redefinition of democracy: Changing the system of majority rule among equal citizens to one of power sharing among ethnic groups composed of both citizens and non-citizens.

            7. Deconstruction of Western national narratives and national symbols in favor of post-modern multiculturalist views.

          • Smilee

            Allen, your goofy, goofy, goofy

  • Edward Koziol

    Kagan will be a puppet for any democrat politician to pull.We have 2 of the ugliest women in the world on the supreme court and now we’re adding another.That ginsburg didn’t have the decency to stay home on a monday the day after she buried her husband,he probably killed himself

  • gofer

    John Marshall, William Rehnquist, Louis Brandeis, Earl Warren, William O. Douglas, Harlan Fiske Stone, Robert Jackson, Felix Frankfurter, Joseph Story and Roger Taney

    Never been a judge before.

    Sotomeier stated during her confirmation that she supported the individual right to bear arms and even mentioned her godchild was a NRA member….HOWEVER, she voted AGAINST the right this past week. So much for truth. Kagan lied about the Harvard miltary ban and her reasoning behind it and Sessions set her straight. Leftists judges think the Constitution is merely a “guideline” to be considered and they can use it anyway they like to their ends.

    Amazing how leftists can never show their true intent. They have to hide it and pretend to be centrists because that’s what the country is and it makes them all liars.

    All I ever needed to know about Obama came when the Communist Party, USA shed “tears of joy” at his election and called him their “best hope” ever to come along. Then there’s rev Wright and his undying hatred of white people.

  • Mangrove Snapper

    Gofer,

    You got it right !!!

  • riomonger

    It’s time for states to begin seceding from Washington and find a new capital city with a branches that will back the constitution. This will be China or worse if the criminals in Washington are not ousted. Thinking about starting a campaign in Arizona.

  • DANEL

    KINECTIC 1 THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE HAS NOT CHANGED,ONLY YOUR INTERPRETATION.THE REAL WORLD IS NOT AS SIMPLISTIC AS YOU WOULD HAVE US BELIEVE.WE ALL DEAL WITH DECISIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE DAILY,HOWEVER,WE DON’T HAVE TO COMPROMISE OUR COMMON SENSE TO SEE CLEARLY.

  • DANEL

    SMILEE,YOUR NAIVETE IS STARTING TO EMERGE AGAIN.

  • chuck b

    riomonger

    after reading the post attributed here, i’m beginning to wonder, the liberals (communist democrats) all are willing to place this woman on the supreme court regardless of her experience. kinetic1 thinks the meaning of the constitution and words change automatically over the years and what a relief we have one protestant in the administration, how gratifying and what a relief to find out it is the holistic one, hillary herself. that really makes me feel like standing up and saluting the flag. yes i agree the states. should demand their states rights and secede from this liberal overbearing government. the communist liberals can congregate in their own state and then raise tax on each other to their hearts content. wouldn’t that be a sight to behold!! they already have california and as you can see it’s just not working for them.

    • riomonger

      Chuck b,

      That’s a great idea but it won’t happen because they know they could not survive off of each other and i’ll bet not one of them with any economic or political knowledge would want to submit to a ‘liberal state’. Wish it were true that they would all gather and be dependent on themselves and their chaotic politics and ideas. Smilee may be more comfortable in present day Venezuela if he believes that communist society killing witch slithering her way into the supreme court.

  • Kinetic1

    chuck b
    First, the mention of Hillary was a simple response to a question. I don’t care if the court has 1 or 9 or no Protestants at all. All I want is a group of judges who are guided by our laws.

    Next, you suggest that I would support Kagan, regardless of her experience. I say that I support BECAUSE of her experience, as do many conservatives. It’s a matter of opinion, and you are welcome to yours.

    Now, lets play a game. What say we take the 2nd amendment as written and decide what we need.

    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. ”

    OK, a “well regulated militia” would likely be a well trained force. Sounds fair enough. But in Federalist No. 29, Alexander Hamilton wrote;
    “If a well regulated militia be the most natural defense of a free country, it ought certainly to be under the regulation and at the disposal of that body which is constituted the guardian of the national security…confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority…(and) reserving to the states…the authority of training the militia” So is it ok to have your own Militia? Well, the rest of the bill must make it clear, so let’s go on.

    “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms..” Yes, the right of the people to KEEP and BEAR ARMS. I get to keep a gun and bear it when I feel it’s needed. Simple, right?. Shoot! (no pun intended) the Oxford English Dictionary defines the phrase To bear arms as “to serve as a soldier, do military service, fight.” That was 1795. Hmm. what about later? Not much help here either. Even when you take “bear arms” to include hunting and such, “keep and Bear” seems to be a military thing.

    So what’s left? How many “arms”? How big? How many arms do you have to “bear” to have a “well regulated Militia?” What do the founders have to say? OH! in 1792 Congress instituted an act that stated
    “[E]ach and every free able-bodied white male citizen of the respective States, resident therein, who is or shall be of age of eighteen years, and under the age of forty-five years (except as is herein after excepted) shall severally and respectively be enrolled in the militia…[and] every citizen so enrolled and notified, shall, within six months thereafter, provide himself with a good musket or firelock, a sufficient bayonet and belt…” There, one Musket or Flintlock.

    So we now have 1 flintlock or Musket for every man over the age of 18 to use as a part of our nation’s militia. That seems to be the original intent! Clearly you could carry your flintlock with you wherever you went, since you never knew when it would be needed. But if you were no longer part of the militia, then what? When we established an army, what did that do to your “rights?”

    None of this is a problem for you, chuck b, because words stay the same and the original intent is clear. Just ask the Supreme court in United States v. Cruikshank, or Presser v. Illinois, Miller v. Texas, Robertson v. Baldwin, United States v. Miller or McDonald v. Chicago. These are but a few of the cases searching for “original Intent.”

    • chuck b

      kinetic

      i do care when i see there are no protestants on the supreme court, that is my culture and i certainly want to feel represented, not by jewish or islam jurist that will decide cases based on their ideology and how they discern the constitution.

      “the right to bear arms” is plain english, it means exactly that and i don’t take it as meaning the right for military to bear arms. as you think, you interpret that phrase to mean something different.

      the liberal left have tried for many years to out think the framers and so far have failed. of course if your dear leader has his way he will eventually turn the direction of the court and our constitution will fall pray to your kind of thinking, i hope not. and by the way the wording of the constitution doesn’t change with age even tho those of a more liberal mind try to twist the meaning to their perspective. join the crowd of dissenters, they have tried for years and so far have failed and i hope you fail in your endeavor.

    • American Citizen

      You never know when you could be called to be part of a formal “militia”. All members of the current militia live in their own homes with their firearms at the ready. Thank goodness for them. We are under attack from terrorists and invaders. They may not have come out of hiding as yet, but the day is coming.

  • FreedomFighter

    This woman is not fit for the office ObamaDaCommi would elevate her to.

    FF

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Only “….42 percent of Americans now oppose Kagan’s confirmation”?? Don’t people understand the consequences of such an appointment? When voters (hopefully) wise up in 2012, BHO can be on the unemployment line and 1/20/2013 can be the “End of an Error”. But his leftwing radical appointments can still beon the SCOTUS for 31 years!!

    The good news is that the other day the SCOTUS ruled in favor of our 2nd Amendment. But the bad news is that this ruling was a simple 5-4 majority of the SCOTUS. This means one more leftist on the SCOTUS could undo this. Therefore we should insist that all 41 GOP senators filibuster any leftwing radical SCOTUS appointments by our Marxist-in-chief; in this case, Elena Kagan. IMO, any RINO who votes to confirm Kagan should be defeated in his/her next re-election primary. We should never forget the importance of the 2nd Amendment. Not only for protection against criminals (many of whom are running loose because of the bleeding hearted liberals’ revolving door justice system), but against the approaching tyranny which we’ve been seeing over the past 18 months!!

    The bottom line – in the November elections this year, in 2012 and beyond, we need to defeat as many Democraps as possible. But in the primaries, we must also defeat RINOs and GOP wimps who vote to confirm BHO’s leftwing radical appointments!!

  • Helen Snotknocker

    It looks as though Billy(the exterminator) has a lot of work coming up , to be done in a short time!!!!!!

  • Jim Bob Jones

    I cannot understand why any one would vote for Kagan. Our constitution must be followed. I don’t believe she would.

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