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Opponents Vow To Combat DC Gay Marriage Law

March 12, 2010 by  

Opponents vow to combat D.C. gay marriage lawTuesday was the first day that same-sex couples were allowed to marry in Washington, D.C., and opponents of the new law are already vowing to fight to overturn it.

The measure known as the Marriage Equality Act was signed by D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty last December after the city council passed it. It then went through a review period during which Congress declined to intervene and the Supreme Court, as well as lower courts, rejected attempts to block it.

Supporters of the law hailed it as a step towards winning an important freedom for gay people nationwide.

However, Evan Wolfson, executive director of Freedom to Marry, pointed to recent setbacks of similar legislation in California and Maine, and said that "those of us impatient for the day when America no longer excludes committed couples from marriage have to redouble our efforts."

In fact, he is likely to face tough opposition as activists have vowed to force a ballot initiative to overturn the law, saying they believe city residents, and not just the council, should have a chance to vote on the issue.

Moreover, the Catholic Charities of the Archdiocese of Washington, which does not support same-sex marriages, has announced it will no longer extend job benefits to employee spouses not already enrolled, according to The Washington Post.

D.C. joins Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Vermont in allowing same-sex couples to marry.
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  • Tubby4456

    Of course marriage should only be defined as being comprised of one man and one women but once again, the progressives are winning the language war. They are not content with civil unions even if this arrangement were to provide every right that traditional marriage does. They insist on forcing us to accept that gay marriage is the equivalent of traditional marriage and they insist on teaching our kids the same. That is at the core of the debate. I can empathize with someone wanting to be accepted but what angers the hell out of me is when a group of people demand to change the definition of traditional marriage in order to force a society to accept it. What angers me even more is when two gay guys pay a woman to bear a child that they can raise. Is this for the benefit of the baby or the gay couple?

    • Dan2

      Almost all society decay,(hundred some) in the all of human history follows with rampant homosexuality. It is the end of civilizations. This is a fact! This country is no exception. Homosexuality brings about a curse on all the nation. But it is not just gay sex that is the cause. It is a symptom of disobiediance toward God. God will honor your wishes and take away his divine blessing and protection if you willfully or unwillfully revolt toward God! And it is your doing, when judgement on a nation comes. God takes the claim of judgement because he knows all things, he calls it wrath, but it is your doing!
      That’s why he says to stop what your are doing with a warning!!(REPENT)
      That is why there are ex-gay people that have normal lives!!

      • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

        Dan2_You are ao very right, many civilizations have fallen, just because we in America are living in the now, doesn’t mean we won’t be next___but it scares the hell of everyone__people don’t like to talk about end times and so few discuss it, and then it’s reality becomes ignored._ As rural kids born in the 50′s_I’m a bit saddened by the memories of what we were_I cannot believe the change that has happened here in America__It reminds of Hollywood_Fast, Furious_ and no rules!__My husband and I were just talking the other day about how we miss the simple things_The little mom and pop general store just down the road_Which was torn down for a supermarket__When you rode your bike as a kid and the way you didn’t have to worry that someone would steal you away forever__The days when we all believed the same things such as Family, Church, Prayer, the Pledge of Alligience and the days we were all, One Nation Under God__I’m saddened because I don’t know if we’ll ever see that again__My husband and I promote it in our home with family & friends_It is our refuge,_but once you walk out side_life changes like night and day and you feel as if you have constantly look over your shoulder_your skeptical of everything_and your own Government who was sworn 233 years ago to up hold the Constitution, has turned it’s back.__ We do reap what we sow__the problem now is there seems to be more people that want to be defiant rather than those that want to do right and it’s overshadowing any good!__All we can to is pray God lay his hand on us and change the nation, it’s people and the mindset__but being righteous is a choice_if God calls and we refuse to answer, we will pay.

      • Yandle

        Dan2,
        That is a fact! Amen

    • http://justme21yahoo.com Jimmy

      Reading the Bible, reveals to all:

      In the Bible Leviticus chapter 20:13; If a man lies with any male as he lies with a women both of them have committed an abomination they shall surely be put to DEATH, their blood shall be upon them. In the book of Genesis chapter 19:The Lord God distroyed the city of Sodom and Gomorra because of homosexually in the city.You are American know the law and the Lord God. America was biuld by law of God and now you are against God’s will. God will destroy those who have partner with homosexualization. Don’t you fear God will destroy America? Today, Economies downhills, inflation, employment problem, this is the bigining of judgement because America is against God

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    I’VE NEVER HEARD OF ANYTHING SO DAM RIDICULOUS IN MY LIFE!__THIS IS GOING TO OPEN UP A WHOLE NEW CAN OF WORMS__2-3 PEOPLE IN A MARRIAGE??GAYS ALREADY ADOPT CHILDREN__BUT HEY, WHY STOP THERE, NEXT IT’LL BE LAWFUL TO MARRY YOUR DOG OR YOUR PONY!__ABSOULUTELY ABURD!___ALL FOR THE VOTE, THE MONEY AND MORE POWER!

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    Good luck! For those of you enlightened people out there that know that America really is “Israel” and not Judah: Do you realize the America actually is condemned in the bible for electing Barak O’bama(Deut. 17:15)as President?

  • Mike

    Bravo angel-wanna-be,I totally agree enough already.What happened to our beliefs,when are we going to stand up to these radicals and say NO NO No.Next they will probably want to twist science and have the gay guy get pregnant.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    OMG MIKE_THIS THING CAN JUST GO ON AND ON__POLITITIONS COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THE GAYS, ALL THEY WANT IS THEIR VOTES COME ELECTION TIME AND THEIR MONEY TO CAMPAIGN__THE GAYS HAVE MISTAKINGLY THOUGHT THEY POLITITIONS REALLY CARE___ACTUALLY THEY’VE PRETTY MUCH SNOBALLED US ALL!

  • Warrior

    That’s a nice photo. Glad to see their outfits didn’t clash.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    ALL I CAN SAY IF EWWW!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    ALL I CAN SAY IS_ EWWW!

  • Yandle

    You cannot change a skunk to a sheep by making a new law nor can you change the fact that marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN by a new law. A marriage is not between a Sodomite and a Sodomite.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    YANDLE_I JUST FEEL LIKE OUR COUNTRY AND EVERYTHING WE STAND FOR IS GOING TO HELL AND THESE IDIOTS ARE GONNA TAKE THOSE OF US, WHO TRY BE DECENT CITIZENS WITH THEM__THERE ARE NO BOUNDARIES ANYMORE, THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ARE NONE EXISTANT, __THEY’VE TAKEN GOD OUT OF EVERYTHING OR TRYING TO__ATHEISTS, GAYS & OTHER SPECIAL INTERESTS ARE TWISTING THE CONSTITUTION TO SUIT THEIR NEEDS AND GET THEIR WAY__WHAT’S SCARY WASHINGTON GOES RIGHT ALONG WITH THESE IDIOLOGS!__I’VE SAID IT BEFORE-THERE IS NO-ONE LEFT IN WASHINGTON TO TRUST__ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE CAMPAIGNED ONE DIRECTION AND THEN 360ED ONCE IN OFFICE__THEY’RE NOTHING BUT A PACK OF LIARS!__THE OLD MAN AND I’VE BEEN AROUND POLITICS FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS, WE’VE HAD FAMILY IN THE STATE, LOCAL AND FED LEVEL__WE’VE SEEN ALOT OF EGOS AND IDIOTS__CUT THROATING_ BUT I’LL TELL YOU WHAT__I’VE NEVER SEEN A MORE CYNICAL DESTRUCTIVE BUNCH THAN WHAT’S IN THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW__IT JUST MAKES MY HEART SICK!
    WE SO NEED ANOTHER REAGAN!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    YANDLE, I ALWAYS WONDERED HOW YOU WOULD TELL YOUR KIDS THAT “SUSIE’S MOMMY AND MOMMY ARE COMIN’OVER FOR DINNER???-I JUST CANNOT WRAP MY HEAD AROUND A SEXUAL ATTRACTION WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS THE SAME PARTS AS I DO__IT’S JUST WAY BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION!!

  • Dan2

    Freedom from sin is the Greatist feeling!!!!!
    So DOC do you think that pedophilia is O.K. too, after all they can share the same love for each other like gays. And if you disagree with there sex relation, and support gay, than you are a hypocrate!!!

    You don’t have to have sex.
    Here is a site you should all see

  • Bartlett

    The day that a dog can stand up at the alter and say “I do” and consent to marrying a human is the day that I will say that a marriage between two consenting adults who love each other very much is wrong. You guys need to grow up…

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    REALLY?, CASS SUSSTEIN, SEEMS TO THINK ANIMALS SHOULD HAVE RIGHTS TO SUE FOR ABUSE??__DON’T YOU FIND THAT A BIT STRANGE??–AND I AM GROWN-THANK YOU I’M OVER 50!

  • Warrior

    Yeah but, a parrot can say “I Do”. It’s just so dang hard to find their sexual organs.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Bartlett… I am all grown up! And my set of standards is not man’s set of standards, but God’s.

  • antonio caetano

    Hannah can’t say “I do” but she can grind out a pretty good “Yaaaess”
    And that’s good enough for me.
    antonio

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    GOOD POINT!___AT’S PRETTY FUNNY!!___LOL

  • Yandle

    Warrior, And I am sure Some would try!

  • Warrior

    Vic,

    What, did you sleep in late today? Grab a mitt and get into the game for God’s sake.

  • blackhat

    Or, grab a football bat and track shoes…

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    angel-wanna-be… I couldn’t agree more! It’s really too bad that we couldn’t just divide our nation equally, letting the liberals have their half and the conservatives have their half. Wouldn’t that be wild? Our laws would be different from theirs, as would our leaders. The liberals could adjust the laws to meet their needs and we could get back to basics and to what the Founders originally set up. Those who don’t like the side they are on can change at any time. However, we would protect our boarders and no one would be able to freely pass through. Wouldn’t it be great to give it a try?

  • Doc Sarvis

    I think it is great that two consenting adults in love, no matter their gender, can get married. It shows we are getting more real about what really matters in life, a committed loving relationship/bond.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    ROBIN, I THINK THATS WHY GOV PERRY WANTED TO SUCCED IN TEXAS, HE’S TIRED OF THE FED CRAP TOO!__HONESTLY MY HUSBAND AND I’VE TALKED ABOUT SELLING LOCK STOCK AND BARREL AND MOVING TO TEXAS–WE CAN’T AFFORD TO DO IT __BUT I’M SICK OF WHAT’S HAPPENING HERE!__ ALL OF OUR REPRESENTATIVES ARE LIBERALS EXCEPT ONE__I KEEP WRITING TO THEM AND ALL I GET IS FRIGGIN’ FORM LETTERS, WHICH AMOUNT TO NOTHING!__ AND YES IT WOULD BE GRAND__A LIBERAL SIDE AND A CONSERVATIVE SIDE__WITH THE BORDERS SECURLY PARTROLED!__

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    I HAVE A COMITTED LOVING RELATIONSHIP WITH MY PITBULL MIA, BUT I DON’T WANT TO MARRY HER!

  • Warrior

    Doc,
    Would that include family members as well?

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    I’M ALL FOR LIVE AND LET LIVE__BUT THIS IS GOING WAY OVER THE TOP__OUR GOVERNMENT IS ALREADY TRYING TO CHANGE 1/6TH OF THE ECONOMY WITH HEALTH REFORM(MORE REGULATION)_THEY REGULATE WHERE WE CAN SMOKE,TAX THE HELL OUT CIGARETTES, CAMPAIGN THEY ARE BAD, BUT REFUSE TO TAKE THEM OFF THE MARKET, BECAUSE THE FEDS DON’T WANT TO GIVE UP THE MONEY THEY MAKE OFF OF IT, SAME WITH BOOZE__NOW SODA,SOON THER’LL BE TELLING US WE CAN’T USE SALT, BECAUSE WERE TOO STUPID TO LIVE OUR OWN LIVES!!___MY POINT IS, THAT THE GAY LIFESTYLE POSES A HEALTH RISK_AIDS_ AND IF A GAY MAN IS ALSO BISEXUAL, THE WOMAN IS BROUGHT INTO PLAY AS WELL!__GOD HIMSELF IS AGAINST SODOMY, I THINK IT’S WRONG BECAUSE HE SAYS IT IS__HAITI IS DYING BECAUSE OF AIDS AND YOU THINK IT’S RIGHT TO MAKE SAME SEX MARRIAGE LEGAL WHICH IS GOING TO COMPOUND THE PROBLEM!__

  • Yandle

    Doc Sarvis,
    And you can make real apple pie from blueberries. ALL the Sodomite is SHOWING is his depravity. The Sodomites may get a marriage certificate from a degenerate government but they still are not married because marriage is only between man and woman not two SHIMS.

  • unreligious

    I find it funny that the heading above says “Live free in an unfree world”. Yet most of the comments are from people who want to impose their version of of religion on others. I guess they agree with the unfree world part and not the live free part.

  • blackhat

    oh yeah…and, they’ll get a tax break too!

  • Doc Sarvis

    And Mia is probably not real interested in matrimony with you either.

  • blackhat

    Come on Angel, don’t you want the tax breaks and insurance incentives too?

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    NUP, JUST AN OCCASIONAL PAT ON THE HEAD, FOOD AND WATER AND A ROMP OUTSIDE!

  • Doc Sarvis

    As you know, sexually transmitted diseases have affected both homosexuals and heterosexuals all of history. My God does not say anything about homosexual behavior being wrong or sinful.

  • Doc Sarvis

    It depends on how broadly you define “family”.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    SODOM, GOMMORAH GOD BURNED BECAUSE OF HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVITY–THEY WERE CORRUPT__WE CAN’T CHANGE THE WORDS OR THE RULES GOD’S SET FORTH, JUST BECAUSE WE DON’T LIKE THEM__I’VE TRIED THAT TOO IN MY YOUNGER YEARS, YOUR LYING TO YOURSELF THEN__YOU EITHER BELIEVE SCRIPTURE OR YOU DON’T__OUR UNDERSTANDING OF SCRIPTURE CHANGES AS WE GROW AS WELL__

  • Yandle

    Doc Sarvis,
    Your god is not THE ONE and ONLY GOD that created heaven and earth by whom YOU will be JUDGED.

  • Yandle

    Doc Sarvis,
    “As you know” YOU can bomb a building and the innocent inside will suffer. So, since heterosexuals are affected by the actions of Sodomites, what is your point?

  • Doc Sarvis

    It all depends on the doctrine. In my Bible the word of God says nothing about homosexuality, certain human people and authors of certain parts of the Bible do say these things and try to pass it off as the word of God. Also, there are thousands (or more depending on how they are defined) of different belief systems in the world, many of which advocate love (not always physical) above all else. I like that.

  • http://gmail i41

    Well, if a long term relationship with a object of affection, consitutes a marrage would that include their fingers and their toys. More Washington steers and queers attitude. Hillary and Barney said there was never a problem they couldn’t lick if they got to it.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    WELL HONESTLY, I DON’T KNOW ABOUT ANY OTHER GODS, MINE, THE ONE IN HEAVEN I WORSHIP SAYS SODOMY IS WRONG__HE’S THE ONLY ONE I LISTEN TO AND READ ABOUT_ I RESPECT THOSE WHO WORSHIP BUDDAH OR WHAT EVER, ISLAM AS LONG AS LONG IT’S NOT SHOVED DOWN MY THROAT__AS FOR BEING JUDGED BY ANY OTHER GOD__WHEN I DIE IF THERES MORE THAN ONE DIETY AT THE PEARLY GATES, I GUESS I WILL ANSWER TO THEM ALL THEN__

  • L.USA

    angel-wanna-be, Look here: http://www.americancongressfortruth.org , these not only wanna shove it down your throat but cut your head off too! Either way, they consider you a dhimmi (dim-wit) low class citizan and forbid land ownership or any common privilages they consider for themselves. Maybe DocSarvis and unreligous would prefer it over decent Christianity!

  • Yandle

    Doc Sarvis,
    Since YOUR bible “says nothing about homosexuality”, you need to get THE BIBLE from THE ONE AND ONLY GOD by WHOM YOU will be Judged, Who says a lot about SODOMY the sin of abomination.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CREATING THEIR OWN GOD THESE DAYS AND MAKING THERE OWN RULES_IN HOPES OF FINDING SOMETHING THEY CAN BELIEVE IN AND LIVE WITH, PERHAPS EASIER RULES__ITS OBIVIOUS MAN SUCKS AS A DIETY, SO DOES HIS RULES, THEY TOO ARE BEING CRASHED AND TWISTED TO SUIT NEEDS, THE CONSTITUTION AND THE BIBLE___THE COUNTRY HAS GRADUALLY SHIFTED AND MOVING AWAY FROM ORIGINAL BIBLICAL DOCTRINE___OUR SCHOOLS SUFFER FROM THE REMOVEL OF PRAYER AND RELIGION, IN IT’S PLACE WE’VE MOVED METAL DETECTORS AND THE POLICE___SO GO THE PEOPLE_ SO GO THE NATIO__WE ALL NEED RULES AND SOMETHING TO BELIEVE AND IT’S JUST NOT THE OF BELIEVING YOU’LL HAVE ANOTHER BEER!

  • Joe H.

    Doc,
    What does your Bible say about the cities of Sodom and Gamorra?? Word for word please!!! If it says nothing then it is not the Bible it is probably a Koran!!!!

  • Doc Sarvis

    Please tell me how hetrosexuals are affected negatively by homosexuals.

  • Yandle

    Doc Sarvis,
    The main thing of many is like Lot, who had to get out of Sodom or be destroyed. If any society condones sins like Sodomy they will be destroyed.

  • Doc Sarvis

    And when we finally promote love and goodness to all of humanity we will prosper.

  • Yandle

    Doc Sarvis,
    Yes if we are talking love, No if we are talking lust.

  • Michael J.

    Doc Sarvis,
    Why is it that you people push the myth of Islamo Terrorist using Gitmo as a recruiting tool yet skip over the fact that terrorist despise western cultures codoning of same sex relationships?

    By using Liberal logic (if there is such a thing), shouldn’t the joining of Homosexuals in matrimony be prohibited as a matter of national security?
    And in this age of political correctness, shouldn’t we be more sensitive when it comes to offending Muslim’s?

  • Doc Sarvis

    Michael J.
    I have never mentioned anything about a “myth of Islamo Terrorist” and Gitmo. I do think that if there is any prejudice against same sex relationships by any group it is out of some sort of fear, as same sex relationships occur in all cultures/races. I hope that helps you.

  • Doc Sarvis

    As I related in an earlier post, there are a lot of “One and Only Gods” out there in the world. I’m glad you have one you believe in but others have their own that they believe in as well.

  • Yandle

    Doc Sarvis,
    I sorry you do not understand, but that is a contradiction of terms. You are wrong, period.

  • Doc Sarvis

    That is the point of the quotes. Most of the world’s population blieves in God (or Gods) but there are hundreds or thousands of those belief systems. Every one of those believers are certain that they believe in “THE ONE GOD”. It is fine to have belief in your God. I can not understand how one could deny that others have just as strong a belief in some other God.

  • L.USA

    Most world religions are poly-thestic (having many gods). The GOD of the Hebrew and Greek scriptures in the Holy Bible, translated into english in 1612, is the ONE GOD, in the Jewish mono-theistic religion known as Judism. Christianity however is defined in the Bible by the Words of The ONE GOD, in the flesh as His own Lamb who gave Himself for His own as a propitiation for their sins. He then was raised by His Father, the Spirit who forever abides on The Throne of heaven.

  • L.USA

    I need to clarify that the Bible plainly shows that God is manifest in three forms; God the Father Spirit on The Throne in heaven with the earth as His footstool, God the Son who was with God and was God and came in the flesh to be born of a virgin and without sin so to be a willing sacrifice for all who would believe that God is and he is a rewarder of those who would dilligently seek Him, God the Holy Spirit or Ghost who is the comforter that Jesus Christ God the Son prayed the Father has sent back to us to be within us and our comforter, so dear.

  • Yandle

    unreligious,
    If you are hopelessly inside a burning building and someone tells you the only way you can get out, is that to “impose” on you. But I know you would stay in the fire.

  • Dan2

    Freedom from sin is the Greatist feeling!!!!!
    So DOC do you think that pedophilia is O.K. too, after all they can share the same love for each other like gays. And if you disagree with there sex relation, and support gay, than you are a hypocrate!!!

    You don’t have to have sex.
    Here is a site you should all see
    http://www.exodusinternational.org/

  • Rev JDSpears

    So, Angel, what you are saying is that the “gay” portion of the population is so large, and so powerful, that the politicians are pandering to them? WOW what an admission!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    ABOSOLUTELY, MONEY AND VOTES!

  • L.USA

    “Not Rev” JDSpears, The “gay” population is only a fraction of total population. Such perversness is rare but used to grandstand for votes by politicans in the “politicaly correct” society of unaware public in much of America. Votes, has been, ex. obama & others, and Money. That needs to stop. Vote Conservative http://www.gop.gov

  • Mike In MI

    No Rev -

    It don’t mean that at all. It means politicians ARE them. Not “pandering”, philandering and prior to practicing pederasty palpating their pestiferous posteriors while expostulating profusely their patently profane “propriety” which is prestidigitation compared to priestly imposture.

  • blackhat

    eeewwww…yucky…lol

  • Bartlett

    “Over 50″ doesn’t mean that you are mentally grown-up, it just means you are physically old.

  • Bartlett

    The word “homosexual” is not in the bible; you are interpreting the words to fit your opinion.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    NUP_ NICE TRY, BUT IT DOESN’T CUT IT, THE WORDS HOMOSEXUALITY MAY NOT BE THERE BUT THE INDICATIONS ARE__!__I’VE READ THE BIBLE 4 TIMES THROUGH, JUST ABOUT READY TO START AGAIN__EACH TIME I READ IT SOMETHING NEW IS REVEALED__YOU SHOULD TRY IT!___I’LL GET BACK TO TOMAZZ,–WITH THE PASSAGE_ I ONLY WORK ONE NIGHT WEEK, AND IN A BAD ECONOMY, ENTERTAINMENT IS THE FIRST THING TO GO__HAVE A GREAT NIGHT!

  • Bartlett

    If you are going to write with the caps lock on, you may want to double check your spelling; your poor grammar/spelling are much more noticeable…

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    SORRY LONG NAILS AND NO GLASSES ON, MAKE FOR VERY BAD TYPING!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    SURE BUT NOT FROM MARRYING MY DOG!__LMAO__THAT’D GIVE A NEW MEANING TO A DOG AND PONY SHOW THOUGH!!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    BARLETT, I’M PARTLY NATIVE AMERICAN, AT 51 YOUR CONSIDERED A O WISE ONE__I STILL DJ HONEY AT 53, THE OLD MAN I STILL HAVE A GOOD TIME AFTER 38 YEARS OF BEING TOGETHER__AGE IS A NUMBER, YA JUST DON’T RUN AROUND NAKED MUCH AT THIS AGE ANYMORE___ROFLMAO!

  • Dan2
  • Doc Sarvis

    Leonard puts it very well just above.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    AND THEY’LL TAKE ILLEGAL VOTES AS WELL!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    THE GAYS ARE TRYING TO INFILTRATE HERE TOO, I HOPE AND PRAY STEELE AND THE REST DON’T CAVE IN FROM THE PRESSURE OF LIBERAL RHETORIC__SUCH AS, IF THE CONSERVATIVES/REPUBS WANT TO KEEP THE PARTY A FLOAT, THEY HAVE TO BEGIN TO INCLUDE GAYS AND SPECIAL INTEREST’S__I IF ANYTHING I THINK WE NEED TO GET BACK TO OUR ROOTS OF A, GOD FEARING NATION, FAMILY ORIENTED (MAN AND WOMAN MARRIAGES)A HARD WORKING NATION AND TO A GOVERNMENT WHO LETS US THE HELL ALONE AND STOP TRYING TO RUN EVERY ASPECT OUR LIVES, LIKE WE’RE IDIOTS!

  • L.USA

    We do need the model government of Americas’ founding but it can only come from God if we work and pray for it. By electing the Republican Conservative candidates, we will weed out the special interests by selective process during coming election cycles and appointments. Praise be to God! Support your Conservative Representatives.

  • L.USA

    Angel-Wanna-Be, I agree. With abomination within our government, we will fall. Still, if we miss the election of True conservatives, we are destroyed from within and without. Pray for the Conservative Republicans that we may live unabated.

  • Sgt Mike

    Now I acknowledge I am an OLD Guy, but not an old GAY Guy.

    In fact I remember when the term ”Gay Blade” was a male badge of honour.

    I am SO OLD I remember when being a Conservative Republican meant keeping the Government out of peoples lives and bedrooms and Religions.

    In fact I am so OLD I remember us winning WW 2 with out ”under God” in the pledge of Allegiance we did every school day..

    As I continue to watch our political system being more and more driven, or maybe i should say being dragged away from the middle ground between money and labour by MONEY it saddens me that people who claim to be conservative can find time to be concerned about forcing there own religious views into others bed rooms.

    People who claim to be ”Christian” which I was raised to believe included forgiveness, tolerance and every year used to stand behind the saying ”Peace in Earth, Good will to men” now claim to be conservative based on NO TOLARENCE.

    I”m actually OLD enough to remember The Arch Conservative Barry Goldwater making the statement about Gays in the military. ”I do not care if they are straight, I just want to know if they can shoot straight”

    Do You know what, after 36 years in the military I could not agree more.

    I also THOUGHT the America I fought for stood for freedom FROM Religion. Foolish me..

  • Leonard

    Here’s the concept some of you need to get your heads around… “marriage between two consenting adults”. The word “adults” means pedophilia is still wrong. The word “two” means polygamy is still wrong. The word “consenting” rules out bestiality because animals cannot give consent. (Unless of course it’s a gorilla that knows sign language ;-).

    By the way, if all sex is supposed to lead to children why are old people allowed marry? If the woman’s eggs are all gone, then any sex she is having is only for pleasure, which according to some is a sin. Anyone?

  • Leonard

    Thanks for the link but as soon as they declared that homosexuality was a choice and NOT genetic their entire argument fails. Homosexuality, while rare, is genetic. Homosexuality, while rare, does occur in animals other than humans. Animals don’t decide to be gay because of a troubled childhood or because of a bad upbringing. Of course, to admit this would be to acknowledge just another in a long list of scientific inaccuracies in the bible. One should expect a 1800 to 1900 year-old book to get some science wrong, but then again if was wrong how could it be god’s word? So what is it? Is it wrong or is it god’s word? It can’t be both.

  • Leonard

    Well said sir… I mean sargent! Remember, back in your day, even the Flintstones had a “gay ol’ time”.

  • L.USA

    Well Sgt. All that and here we are now: Opponents Vow To Combat DC Gay Marriage Law
    March 12, 2010 by Personal Liberty News Desk

    Kinda make me wonder how this happened? Got any ideas?

  • Yandle

    Sgt Mike,
    I am old enough to remember all that you have mentioned but OLD does not change SIN. OLD as time, back to Adam, sin is sin. Adam disobeyed God and became the servant of sin and as scripture affirms “Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness”. Christ stated “Ye cannot serve God and mammon” and all mankind are “servants of sin” or “servants to God”. Religion is a cause, principle, or system of beliefs (Merrianm-Webster’s Collegitate Dictionary). All mankind believe something and their actions are the results of their beliefs. “He that committeth sin is of the devil” “that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world” or by God’s grace “being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life”. Mike, there is no such thing as freedom for oxygen, unless you are dead, and there is no such thing as “freedom FROM Religion” because you either serve God or Sin.

  • DaveH

    I think two guys together is gross. But that’s just my opinion. As a Libertarian, I acknowledge their Freedom to get married. But, what worries me is how far will they push the laws? Will they start suing Ministers for refusing to marry them? Or will they respect the Freedom of others as they expect their Freedom to be respected?
    It has been my observation that gays have an inclination to push for ‘Special’ protections that the rest of us don’t get. I object strenuously to that.
    I think we just need to get government out of our personal choices.

  • Joe H.

    DaveH,
    I agree with your statement that they push for special protections. Like hate crimes. We already have laws on the books for assault, battery, attempted murder, murder and such. Why have special dispensations for them? Just enforce the laws we have on the books, evenly and EQUALLY!!!

  • Mike In MI

    Hold it high, Angel.

    Many of our people seem to be abandoning our heritage in favor of every hedonistic, selfish, abominable evil imaginable. I haven’t found a passage in the Bible, yet, that says “Evil men are going to wax better and better.” So, we probably haven’t seen anything yet. There’s only one thing I’m sure of from my investigation of Biblical principles and history. Those who have been blessed by God because their forebears stood for Him need to hold tight to their heritage.

    Our system says we each have the right to learn, think, believe and act on whatever lifestyle philosophy that suits us. I wouldn’t change that for any reason in the world. God sees what we DO and rewards us accordingly. He says we will reap what we sow when it is all said and done…now and forever.

    Lots of preachers and theologians talk a good game of monotheism. Yet, if you listen close to their teaching and compare it to Scripture you see they contradict Him, subtly. Many of them teach stuff that lines up with Greek, Roman and Canaanite religions which God called abominable. Homo stuff was part and parcel of many ancient religions’ rites and festivals. God told the Israelites to get rid of the Canaanite religions, their altars and practices. If they got caught up in that stuff He promised He would abandon them and refuse to hear or answer their prayers. When they did what He warned against it caused them to get sick, be weak and it ate up their wealth. Then the bottom dropped out. (He hasn’t changed in regard to that.)

    When they followwed His directions He honored and blessed them. Then they prospered, were healthy and protected. Doing what he advised was good, no one and nothing could touch them. Doing anything else, nothing and no one could help them.

    So, what does that have to do with us? Well, it appears the floor is getting very weak and could fall out because of bad decisions and habits people are caught up in. So, what is our recourse?

    Number one: Control your focus of attention to what you know is
    True and right and what gives you peace and hope. Refuse to be distracted by the environment with all its lewd, ugly and selfish madness. A distracted mind is vulnerable. When God thinks, it changes heaven and earth. When you think what God thinks it changes history and its coursers, at the very least.

    Number two: Get tough minded and make hard decisions about whose favor you value most. People are going to call you unloving, intolerant, mentally unstable, judgmental and a throwback. But, when you know you think what God thinks, God hears them saying His ideas are bad and judging Him. Well…just cross your arms and stare ‘em down. Tell them you are only telling them what God means, “is, is”. Then they will start screaming, yelling and jumping around. Just close your ears (laugh if you must). It gets comical.

    Have fun with It.

  • antonio caetano

    Frankly, Charlotte, what business is it of anyone whether I want to marry my dog. Her name is Hannah and let me tell you she’ll never leave me and would probably die to protect me.
    And you call this a personal liberty site.
    antonio

  • L.USA

    Same gender is the breach. Others may follow with that fault. Elder reproduction is proven as recorded in Hebrew history where God called Abraham from Ur of the Chaldees to a land where He would send him. He and his wife Sarah were about 100 years of age and they together concieved the son Jacob, who was named Israel [Heb. He who wrestles with God].

  • L.USA

    There is nothing wrong with the Bible. It is so right that the “wrong” is even brought by God. Ex. He ‘puts hooks into the jaws of Russia’ when they come down against Israel in the battles of Armageddon to come. So the genetic chemical processes spurred to excesses of homo behavior tendencies are pre-planned and bio-engineered by God himself. Think about it. He who knew you before you were in your mothers womb. He who “was slain from before the foundation of the earth”. Do more research, Leon.

  • Mike In MI

    Leonard – Wow, that was a mouthful.

    Did you really swallow that whole thing? Did’ja swallow the rest of him too?

  • Mike In MI

    Hey Leonard — About those Biblical inaccuracies:

    Have you noticed anything odd going on in science lately; like global warming lies; like lies, ghost writing and data fudging in various university research departments; Like peer review groups being baised against or rejecting certain studies only because they don’t like the leader of the study? What about emminent evolutionists, archaeologists, paleontologists and others admitting evilution is all a hoax? What about astronomers who can’t agree on anything re their “science” of origins and the cosmos? What about some of the recent revelations about “dark matter”? Seems they don’t know where or how to find the stuff, don’t know what it does or how it acts or if it affects the stuff we know a little about – damn little. Yet they figure fairly reliable computations indicate it represents -?- 75%? 85%? 90%? of the mass in the UNIVERSE. That’s just starters!!!!

    Think what we think we know about science might possibly be so only because we think it’s so? Maybe “science” might be wrong and God is the one Who KNOWS what is RIGHT? HUH? Dthuh-uh-uh. aihey do’ kno.

  • Yandle

    Leonard,
    Your degenerate pinheaded OPINION does not prove that the Word of the Holy Omnipotent God is wrong. Genes have nothing to do with your degenerate life-style.

  • L.USA

    Joe, DaveH is only partialy right. Take the revolt we beleivers on Jesus Christ our God know and feel against homo behavior and they have that toward God. That is why the radicals are such extremist and are easily used by liberals against just authority by the enemies of decency in society.

  • Sgt Mike

    In the broad sense I would say that all bigotery is a result of fear.

    Those who can not respect anothers views at a deep level have no respect for them selves.

    This is not to say I have no fear or prejudice’s. I was fortunate that I was forced to examine them and begain to deal with the underlying causes.

    It is a choice.

    It is easier to throw stones at anothers house than CLEAN our own while hiding behind a GOD as an excuse.

    hypocrisy Destroys.

  • Meteorlady

    Being “gay” is a sexual preference and the government should not be involved in that. While I support the rights of people, I also know that legally they can get what they want without being married. Marriage to them means legitimacy which is what they need in order to feel that what they are doing is right. I think two guy and two women together is not right and only usually occurs in societies that are overpopulated. I think they deserve the same right as everyone in this country, but the current laws say the “marriage” as we know it is between a man and a women. They can have all the rights they want and we can give them marriage, but the legitimacy will never come from most of the American people who do not like this practice.

    I think if we are going to pass laws about sexual preferences, maybe we should allow people to get equal rights because they like donkeys. What about it? That would certainly start a fight.

    My point is, we have so many real problems in this country, why keep on allowing them to spend taxpayer dollars on law suits and new laws.

  • Doc Sarvis

    We are all sinners in various ways.

  • Sgt Mike

    I DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU SAY BUT I WILL DEFEND TO THE DEATH YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT

    There is no proof of God

    But then there is no proof against

    We will know soon enough so why worry.

    If you are correct you will have eternity to yell down to me ”I told you so”

    and if you are WRONG, not to worry because the God I was raised with is one of forgivness.

    HYPOCRISY DESTROYS

    Peaceful

  • Sgt Mike

    Yandle

    I will defend to the death Etc.

    I will also defend to the death to not give your ‘God” myth any more power over my life that the myths of the Greeks, Mohamand Etc.

    I refuse to live a life of fear and guilt because of an old Myth rewritten by generations of men who have no more contact or no less with the GODS than you or I.

    LISTEN TO YOUR OWN GOD, THE GOD THAT LIVES WITH IN US ALL NOT WHAT OTHERS HAVE TOLD YOU YOU SHOULD BELIEVE,

    IF THERE IS ANY GOD OR GODS IT/THEY DO NOT WANT US TO LIVE IN FEAR OF THEM, IN FACT FEAR IS THE FORCE OF EVIL.

    Peaceful

  • Doc Sarvis

    Your question is beside the point but it says nothing about homosexuals.

  • Yandle

    Doc Sarvis,
    That is the point and it is all about homosexuals (Sodomites).

  • Joe H.

    doc,
    What, are you afraid that we will find out you don’t HAVE a bible??? I suspected that all along! You are a non-believer!!

  • Doc Sarvis

    I do have a Bible and I am a strong believer.

  • Doc Sarvis

    Also note, my Bible starts with a capital “B”.

  • Joe H.

    Doc,
    Then answer my question. What does your Bible say about the two cities????

  • Doc Sarvis

    Is this what you were requesting? And why?

    1And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;

    2And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant’s house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.

    3And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.

    4But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

    5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

    6And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

    7And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

    8Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

    9And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

    10But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door.

    11And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

    12And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place:

    13For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.

    14And Lot went out, and spake unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and said, Up, get you out of this place; for the LORD will destroy this city. But he seemed as one that mocked unto his sons in law.

    15And when the morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife, and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the iniquity of the city.

    16And while he lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife, and upon the hand of his two daughters; the LORD being merciful unto him: and they brought him forth, and set him without the city.

    17And it came to pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain; escape to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.

    18And Lot said unto them, Oh, not so, my LORD:

    19Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:

    20Behold now, this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live.

    21And he said unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I will not overthrow this city, for the which thou hast spoken.

    22Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do anything till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.

    23The sun was risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar.

    24Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

    25And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

    26But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.

    27And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the LORD:

    28And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.

    29And it came to pass, when God destroyed the cities of the plain, that God remembered Abraham, and sent Lot out of the midst of the overthrow, when he overthrew the cities in the which Lot dwelt.

    30And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.

    31And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

    32Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

    33And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

    34And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

    35And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.

    36Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

    37And the first born bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.

    38And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    L.USA_AMEN!__PRE-DETERMINED DENSTINY_SAYS IT ALL!

  • L.USA

    A-W-B, Yes but please keep in mind that the same God who is God, made it so that we have a say in our own “pre-destination”, and that of everyone else (except the destroyer). If we will walk with Him and pray in truth, He will hear us and call the lost, untill the last hour is finished.

  • DaveH

    There is nothing ‘just’ about forcing your beliefs on others. What they do with their own bodies, no matter how repugnant to us, is none of our business. If you don’t recognize that, then you don’t deserve Freedom.

  • Mike In MI

    L. U.S.A – You can sure take that to the Bank of Eternal Rewards and deposit it!!!

    That’s exactly what God says in Romans 1:29 being filled with ALL unrighteousness, …30 slanderers, haters of God… about them. That’s His opinion, what He KNOWS, about them. If you say what He says that only proves you think more highly about what He thinks than about what they think. You aren’t a judgmental homopobe. You just love God first and them second. That is the correct order.

    If you agreed with them you would have to love them and their ideas (judgments) more than God’s. That would put Commandment #2 (love others and self) ahead of commandment #1 (love God). It doesn’t mean you are or I am afraid of them or hate them. I just don’t want God to lump me, by consenting with their thinking, in with them. In God’s view, according to verse 1:32, doing that would make me on par with them by “consenting” (Greek word, “suneudokousin”) with their ideas and practices.

    Sgt Mike’s the consenting one in this discourse: “I wouldn’t do it myself, never. But, it’s OK with me if they want to live that way.” God doesn’t think very highly of your opinion, Sarge. Of course, that probably doesn’t matter to you.

    It isn’t too hard to figure out; just got to take the time to do it. Now, Sarge, I want you to bear in mind I’m not forcing you to do anything, forcing religion on you, making a law or anything else. Just making a point. You have the right to mock, believe it or say, “I’ll see you again, late-r-r-r…..r”.

    Good on ya, L.

  • Yandle

    Doc Sarvis,
    But some are still in their sin and Christians have been forgiven in Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

  • Yandle

    DaveH,
    No one is forcing beliefs on others, but they are “just” obeying GOD, “When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul”. “For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself”. If you don’t recognize that, then you must answer to God.

  • DaveH

    Yandle,
    I am atheist. What I see are people who believe in something strictly on faith. And that’s okay. But when they try to impose that religion on others they are the trespassers.
    Maybe you aren’t Christian. But if you are, keep in mind that Jesus taught tolerance. He hung around with a prostitute, does that give you a clue to the good man that Jesus was? Leading people in the right direction is a good thing. Imposing your direction on others is not.

  • Michael J.

    DaveH,
    Mary Magdalene (if that’s who you were speaking of) was not a prostitute. That lie was initiated by Pope Gregory I in 597 C.E.
    She was in fact an apostle on par with Jesus and the others who over the course of time became a victim of Roman Catholic spin as it were, to manipulate the Gospels to better suite the needs of the church.

  • libertytrain

    DaveH – Amen – even if you don’t believe, your statements were more Christ-like than what I’m used to seeing from some of the posters.

  • Yandle

    DaveH,
    I am aware that you are an atheist(which is distressing because I would hope you knew Christ as Savior) and that you try to live by God’s Ten Commandments but what about the first two? Where did you read that I or any other Christian was imposing Christ’s gospel on anyone. Jesus Christ said “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you”. As I stated about “No one is forcing beliefs on others, but they are “just” obeying GOD” to “warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life”. Jesus Christ taught tolerance but He also taught not to condone sin “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them”. Christ did not condone sin, which we are taught, “Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves”. You say “He hung around with a prostitute”, I beg to differ with you, He cleansed her of her sin, changed her from a prostitute to a saint, and she became a follower of Him. The Sodomites, not Christians, which are “Imposing” their direction on others by trying to get this legislation. Christians are people who believe in something strictly on solid evidence.
    So Dave, you are for legalizing drugs, prostitution, and polygamy, but you are against freedom of religion.

  • DaveH

    Yandle,
    You are so wrong. If you read enough of my comments you would know that I champion freedom of Religion. That includes the freedom to not believe. If you want freedom, you need to give freedom. Otherwise, don’t cry on my shoulders when you lose yours.

  • Yandle

    DaveH,
    I have read your comments and I agree with most them. But here you attacked Christ; and with that I do not agree . You state “If you want freedom, you need to give freedom”. When I stand for Christ, I am not forcing or imposing anything on anyone, how am I not giving freedom and how am I taking anyone’s freedom. Others can say anything they want to. I am not trying to stop them. It is when we forsake God that He takes our freedom. He is the one that gives us freedom. We do have agreement on a lot of other things. Good-day

  • Joe H.

    mike,
    very well said,but did you have a thesarus in your lap while typing???? Or is your middle initial P??? Please note I complimented you I didn’t try to cut you!!

  • Mike In MI

    Joe – N-No, no thesaurus. My comp-p-p-puter has a st-ttutu-utter-ring st-t-tinky k-key p-prob-b-lem. I can talk straight just like this, anytime. But when I sit down to t-typ-p-e I end up l-look-king l-like the oct-tpus who l-lost the st-tring on her T-T-Ta… fergit-t-tit.

  • Joe H.

    Yandle,
    And the scientific community still hasn’t proven beyond a doubt that it IS genet.ic. It is still a hypothesees.

  • Yandle

    Yes Joe H.,
    The scientific community says drunkenness (alcoholism) is a disease but God says it is sin. God does not cast people into Hell for having a disease but His Word says “nor drunkards… shall inherit the kingdom of God”. I chose to believe God.

  • L.USA

    Yandle, You know Lenard speaks from the spirit of his father as those who do such things do also. I will say to his words: Get thee back satan (slander of the brethren). The genetics of every living organ (unicelluar) and organism, are controled by God, just as every molecule in this dimension and the eternal one. When He gave Himself (His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ The Righteous) upon the cross at galgotha, that whosoever beleiveth ON (do as I and say as I say) Him, should not perish but have everlasting life, THEN we who beleive, may have the power to become the sons of God. Therefore; WHOSOEVER will call upon the Name of The LORD may be saved. There is no excuse for sin.

  • Joe H.

    Sgt Mike,
    Gee that’s funny I thought the words I defended were freedom OF religeon!!! OF mike not from!!!

  • Yandle

    Sgt Mike,
    Everything that “IS” is proof of God, but you are right about “But then there is no proof against”. And you are right again when you say “We will know soon enough” but I have no need to worry. In eternity there will not be any yelling down but as Jesus Christ said “The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth”. If “There is no proof of God” who is “the God I was raised with is one of forgiveness”. It is SIN that DESTROYS but Christ died for the sin of those who believe in Him.
    May God have mercy on your soul and may He bless your body for the days you have left.

  • Doc Sarvis

    Sgt Mike thanks for your postings here. Excellent points and well presented.

  • Sgt Mike

    Thanks for the blessing OR as I would put it POSITIVE ENERGY

    As far as a Bible being the word of a GOD, I recently read there are around 1100 versions of the bible.

    A quick glance at this string of posts shows a variety of views so how can you be so sure YOURS or anyones is correct.

    RE: the God I was raised with, I did not say I belived the tale or tales since I read a lot and the more I read the less I belived the Myth of Religion, any religon.

    In fact for about half of my 69 years I was an Atheist, along the way after letting down the wall of protection I had erected due the ”Loving”indoctrination of Fanatics I have come to accept there is some sort of Energy we are all tied into.

    Much bigger than any God or Gods created by US to explain what goes bump in the night.

    Again< I figure I will know soon enough so why worry.

    I will continue to live my life by the Commandments

    DO NOT
    lie
    steal
    cheat
    bear false witness
    murder
    allow others fear OR Gods to rule me

    DO take personel RESPONSIBALITY for MY actions
    DO follow the Golden Rule
    DO share the bounty of this Garden of Eden
    DO forgive my self and others for our mistakes
    DO Defend my family and my self from aggressors Foreign AND DOMESTIC
    DO stay open to the voice of reason and Empathy

    peaceful

  • Yandle

    Sgt Mike,
    My hope is that you have peace and well-being.

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    Ok, It’s on!___I think this constitutes adding this video in here,I hope the link works_I discovered this morning, a video of a 28 year old Korean man marrying a pillow!!!___the video didn’t roll, but you’ll get the picture by the words__if link doesn’t work_check on comcast__

    http://www.comcast.net/video/korean-man-marries-a-pillow/1437958962/Comcast/949732186/

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    I wonder how long before this poison seeps here!__Just Absurd!!

  • Joe H.

    Angel,
    And his offspring will be featherbrains just like him!!!!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    Sad but so true!

  • Doc Sarvis

    And others, no doubt, are forgiven by their God.

  • Yandle

    Doc Sarvis,
    Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:10-12

  • Claire

    So who cares if a man wants to marry another man. Who cares if a woman wants to marry another woman. This is an issue that will be with us until the world ends. There is nothing we can do about the situation. It is here to stay. I have some gay friends, and what they do in their private lives has nothing to do with me. However,I will never tolerate any gays trying to change my beliefs, and they haven’t. I have to admit there are some very very goodlooking guys out there, and then I find out they are gay. And it bothers me a bit, because I always think “what a waste.” I firmly believe a union should be between a man and a woman. I do have a problem with same sex marriage, I don’t understand the reasoning, nor do I want to. Therefore, I just leave it alone. It is none of my business, just as long as they don’t encroach upon me. In other words, I won’t bother them, and they should not bother me.

  • Sgt Mike

    Thanks

    Peaceful

  • Sgt Mike

    Joe

    How can you have freedom OF unless you also have FROM.

    Unless of course you actually mean you have the freedom to follow ONLY MY religion.

    Peaceful

  • Yandle

    Sgt Mike,
    I answer that question here for you, on March 13, 2010 at 8:45 am. Man either serves the one and only true God or serves sin (which can be a man made god, being himself or anything else). All men have a religion, there is no exception.

  • Yandle

    Sgt Mike,
    There is a God of creation as sure as there is a creation. “You say I will defend to the death Etc” but God says “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.” Heb 9:27-28
    “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” 2 Tim 1:7
    Grace and Peace to you

  • L.USA

    Thanks Mike In MI, You know, the TRUTH can set them free. It’s just up to them to seek for God while He may be found. Amen

  • antonio caetano

    I’m not a Christian. I believe in and follow a man who, by the way,
    #never got married
    #hung out with men only–except for one prostitute
    #on at least two occasions, a naked, unidentified, young man was seen fleeing from his presence.
    #one of the men who hung out with him, said he was the the “one that Jesus loved.”
    He was revolutionary because he was considered God’s favored who took away sin from this world
    He was a revolutionary because he urged personal liberty–l’chaim, live life and live it abundantly.
    If there must be politics, Liberatarians are the only ones who are in positions not to judge other, to love their fellow human–live and let live, and seek to live life for which Jesus came, ABUNDANTLY.
    antonio

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