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One Tough Mother…

March 15, 2011 by  

One Tough Mother…

To listen to the kids at Greenpeace, Earth First! and the International Philosophers for Peace and Prevention of Nuclear Omnicide, we (but not they) are the single greatest threat to life (and magnificently monikered hippie groups) on our big blue marble in space.

After all, we’re addicted to fossil fuels, which pollute the air, smell bad (although not as bad as a gathering of International Philosophers for Peace and Prevention of Nuclear Omnicide), and sometimes makes cute little sea creatures yucky. We have nuclear energy, which leads to radiation leaks, nuclear waste and racially insensitive movies starring rampaging, supernatural dinosaurs.

Then, there are our weapons. The most powerful weapon ever devised by our fiendish minds was the Soviet-era nuclear device nicknamed “Tsar Bomba.”  At close to 50 megatons, Tsar Bomba packed a wallop more than 1000 times the destructive force of all the bombs with which we slammed the door on World War II COMBINED.

Seen from inside the eco-freaks’ environmentally-sensitive yurts, we are just plain bad news, man. However, seen from outside the asylum, it’s easy to spot someone whose catastrophic competence makes every ICBM look like a potato gun by comparison:

It’s not nice to fool with Mother Nature.

As of this writing, Japan is facing the long recovery from last week’s Sendai earthquake, a seismic event which registered 9.0 on the Richter scale. That’s the energy equivalent of almost ten times the force of Tsar Bomba. The quake which produced the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami was almost 3 times as powerful as the Sendai Quake. And the impact event which sent T-Rex to that Jurassic Park in the sky was good for about 100 teratons. That’s a right cross 20,000 times as heavy as Tsar Bomba. If that doesn’t give you a sense of humility, then try this on for size: In 2004, astronomers observed a starquake on a neutron star which expelled 4.2×1029 tons of energy. That’s “Michael Moore, Rosie O’Donnell and Ed Schultz fall down an elevator shaft together” power.

In the wake of the Sendai disaster, much like Hurricane Katrina, the Indonesian quake, and every other natural disaster which befalls us fragile tenants of this planet, liberals have attempted to appropriate the carnage for their own delusional purposes.

According to Staffan Nilsson, president of the European Economic and Social Committee:

“Has not the time come to demonstrate on solidarity—not least solidarity in combating and adapting to climate change and global warming?  Mother Nature has again given us a sign that that is what we need to do…”

So, liberals are so desperate to maintain their façade of cosmic strength that they’re pinning the Sendai event on an anecdotal (not to mention unrelated) theory invented by the same guy who just hired Keith Olbermann? Get over yourselves; you’re really not that impressive.

Some have even endeavored to blame the ongoing nuclear crisis at Japan’s Fukushima plant on the dangers of nuclear power, as opposed to—say—the dangers of monster earthquakes. According to one poster at the leftist website Huffington Post:

“This proves nukes are too dangerous.”

But not as dangerous as selling out to AOL, right?

What is happening in Sendai was a damnable, tragic shame. But what happened in Japan, like what happened in Chernobyl, wasn’t a result of man’s careless tinkering with the power of the atom—well, Chernobyl actually was a result of SOVIET man tinkering with the power of the atom. But Japanese nuclear power isn’t run by Igor, who’s spending work hours trafficking in illicit Levi’s or Nikita, who’s been sloshed since before Brezhnev’s eyebrows took over his face.

What is happening at Sendai is too BIG for Man… but not for his Mother.

I’m not taking a cavalier stance about the environment. There’s no reason to pour Pennzoil in the Gulf of Mexico. It doesn’t make the Gulf run more smoothly after 70,000 miles and it makes the kids tough to catch when it’s time to go back to the hotel. Nor is there any good reason to throw your THIRSTBUSTER 64OZ on the side of the road. (Fill those things with sand and they make for great ashtrays. Look at me recycle. I’m living green, baby!)

But there’s also no good reason to elevate ourselves above our station in the universe. Our dear Mother Earth reminds us of our infantile prowess from time to time and she did again in Sendai. She’ll probably do it again. Actually, if we hang on for about 5 billion years, the Sun is still going to evict us with more energy than has ever existed on earth.

Take Dad’s advice: Don’t mess with your mother.

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • s c

    These types are certainly a bunch of Mama Earth-loving, tree-hugging muthas. At the end of the day, I suspect they’re left all alone with their egos and their collective programming.
    And, if no self-respecting Mammy Earth lovers are entitled to be anything less than pc or ‘on the prowl’ for ways to depopulate Mama Earth, then even suicide can’t be ruled out. That last bit of uncommon sense probably comes from george soros (as opposed to saul alinsky).
    I can’t wish them well, as it is immoral to put Mammy Earth before lives. Ponder this, tree-huggers. How can you take care of your duty to
    elect the ‘right’ people if you’re not around to vote for them? How can you round up dead voters if
    you sacrifice yourselves?
    Or, are you (as I have long susected), more interested in getting others to do that which you will avoid? After all, one must have “priorities.”

    • Michael J.

      sc,
      It’s everyone’s job to help save the Earth’s forests by planting a tree (hugger) today. Also, for best results, don’t forget to thoroughly water with used Budweiser in generous amounts.

      • 45caliber

        lol

      • 45caliber

        Michael:

        Be “GREEN”! “Recycled” instead of “used”.

        • Denniso

          The article appears to be making an attempt at sounding as juvenile and pandering to the wackos as these first few posters sound. His article also makes essentially no sense,bouncing from attacks on environmentalists to some slight degree of respect for ‘mother earth’. We tell our kids to not play w/ fire,yet educated adults have been playing w/ something much more lethal than fire for the past century, the never before opened pandora’s box of the power and lethality of the atom.

          We in our puny human arrogance imagine that we can do anything we please…drive 500 HP cars/trucks,live in 10,000 sq ft homes for 2 people,fly anywhere and everwhere around the globe anytime we please and stay in $2,000/night bungalos,buy and own as much junk as we possibly can,have 5 or 10 and even 19 children,own summer homes and overseas vacation homes,stop walking or riding bikes or taking mass transit and drive gas hogs continually,race cars getting 5 mpg around around a track and call it ‘entertainment’…all for the small price of what happens every now and then,a nuclear disaster that kills the valiant workers struggling to control it,renders farmland unusable for 300 yrs,shakes the markets and erases trillions in stock value globally,sets thousands/millions of people in flight away from the radiation threat,kills hundreds or thousands of innocents, and ultimately costs billions in cleanup and disaster relief. Such a bargain…keep driving your gas hogs and using as much energy as possible and certainly continue to demean/demonize alternative energy sources and those who promote them,because,afterall,those cleaner/safer sources are embraced by the ‘tree huggers’ you loathe.

          • Libertarian

            Right on Denniso! Number of things have contributed to the state of affairs we encounter today, and as unlikely as it might sound the fraudulent “War on Drugs” has been one of them. Had the hemp industry not been criminalized in 1937, over half of the trees cut down since then (to be processed for paper!) would still be standing!!! Solutions have alwsy existed, but the Elite is totally blinded by the power the system THEY created gives them!

    • Eddie47d

      SC you are a bigger Azz than goofy Ben himself. You are so self absorbed in yourself you don’t have a clue of what is going on out in the real world. The earth is us,what we destroy is us. Whether you dump trash in your backyard (knock yourself out),build a dam which wipes out fish species,send troops to senseless wars where they die by the thousands, slash and burn whole forests which Leeds to erosion,drain swamps which leed to hurricane flooding,build Nuclear plants on fault lines, or maybe build a housing development over a toxic waste site. We have done all these things and we have regretted doing all these things. Sometimes human nature is trial and error but it doesn’t mean than we have to be stupid over and over again. There is an obligation to protect “mother earth” for it happens to be the planet we live on. If our rivers and water supplies are polluted we pollute ourselves.If we wipe out one species of animal it effects another species. Even humans throughout the ages have wiped out one another without a happy ending. Yes we must take care of our selves and “mother nature”.

      • JC

        You made most of that up didn’t you?
        Cuz SC sure didn’t say all that.

        • Bus

          When will Godzilla be awakened?

          • Denniso

            JC, SC didn’t say much of anything…babble. So is it Jesus Christ and Suzie Christ?

        • Eddie47d

          JC; She slammed the earth we live on so she did indeed.

          • JC

            Nawww…you’re making it up.

          • JC

            Actually I think SC was slamming the “Tree Huggers”. And that’s ok by me as they are usually in the wrong. Responsible stewardship and what these nut jobs profess are usually two different things.

          • Eddie47d

            I think you are the nutty one.

          • JC

            Think whatever you want commie boy. :)

          • http://deleted Claire

            Hmmm, I think if fields are no longer used, plowed, planted in crops, then trees should be planted. I have acreage that I do not farm and I have made damn sure trees are grown. Walnut trees are abundant on my property. They come up on their own.

          • Eddie47d

            JC; What did I make up Fascist clown? The name calling was your idea so live with it.

      • Steve

        Want to know something good about the great recession? It totally screwed up many the liberal greenies master plans to tax us woking Americans with their Cap and trade and all their other greenhouse gas BS…just think if the economy were actually doing good with Obummer as president….we’d be more screwed than we are now….there would be no end to the fees and taxes they would impose upon us….but when times are tough as they are now people start looking harder at whose taking their money….and the pie in the sky liberal save the planet, let’s all do our fair share (except me of course) propaganda fortunately gets put on the back burner…beware though when our economy does turn around they will come looking for all of us….tax and fees 101….

        • 45caliber

          Steve:

          The reason for the “except me of course” is because they will be the ones in charge of spending the money. So they can pay themselves the millions of dollars they are certain they are worth. And because any money they might be supposed to pay in would be coming from the same money they are spending, there is no reason to pay it in.

          • JC

            The whole thing is about the Elitists protecting “their resources” from us. And sadly their propoganda machine is sufficient to give reactionaries a cause, in their otherwise meaningless lives.

          • 45caliber

            JC:

            When Carter was President he signed 96% of the state of Alaska into federal lands. I’ve got a cousin there telling me about it. One of the things he disliked the most was that 600 square miles of it was set aside as a Nature Preserve for backpackers only. You checked in and you checked out. If you went in with a candy bar you had to have a candy bar wrapper when you came out.

            It was so big no one could pack in enough food, etc. to get to the center and get out again. But once or twice a year the Sierra Club could send some people in at government expense to “inspect” the place. The government would provide guides, horses, etc. and take them in. The government people would set up tents, etc. The hand-picked Sierra Club members (all officers) could enjoy the whole place by themselves. No one else allowed.

          • JC

            Laws and rules like that, you ignore.
            Respect for the environment you don’t.
            No way I’m signing into “the woods”.

      • vicki

        Eddie47d demonstrates Hubris when writing:
        “The earth is us,what we destroy is us”

        The Earth is a planet. As Ben pointed out it just sneezed with more power then the biggest nuclear bomb ever made. Our ability to effect earth and its eco systems, like the liberals definition of need is way overblown.

      • Kinetic1

        Eddie47d,
        Word’s out that the Japanese have abandoned their attempt to cool one of the reactors. The levels of radiation are so high that their workers can’t remain on site to do anything. We weren’t at this point when Mr. Crystal wrote this piece, but it was a possibility. So how does he handle it? He makes jokes about “tree huggers” and suggests that we place more blame on the power plant than the earthquake. How much are the big corporations paying you to shill for them Ben?

        I’ve lived through several large earthquakes, one as high as 7.2. I’ve helped my neighbors out of their homes after the building lifted off the foundation and the doors were blocked by their own porches. I’ve helped place sand bags to redirect flood waters and have seen where towns were washed away. Ben, I’m fully aware of the devastation mother nature is capable of, but not once have I ever had to face radiation poisoning as a result. Nature brought on the quakes and the tsunami, but it was man that placed us at risk for decades to come by toying with nuclear radiation. God help those of you who spread or fall for the idea that God has created a world that we can not harm.

    • 45caliber

      Many years ago now when I was in college, I heard some “greens” describe what needed to be done to “save the world”.

      They wanted to have the government build 250 story apartments in inner city areas, wall them in with high walls, and force every person in the world to live there while turning the rest of the world back to nature. Except them of course. Since they were concerned about nature, the government should give them 3,500 square foot homes in the new wilderness to “manage” nature. But no one else except them would ever be allowed out of the cities.

      And this is supposed to make sense?

      • Bus

        Environmentalism has always been an avocation of the wealthy (after they take their chunck from the earth(see Robt Redford for an example)) With the Obama effort to reduce us all to poverty perhaps this strain of human being will become extinct as well?

      • Kate8

        45 – That IS still the plan! Think Agenda 21.

        The difference is that they are now grown up and running things. They still want US to live in egg-crate housing, while they live on the land (off-limits to the peasantry) in 60,000 sq ft mansions. That is, those of us who are left after the “sacrifice” for the sake of Gaia.

        I still think that if they think to cull is the answer, they should lead by example.

        • Eddie47d

          I’m not sure who you are talking about. Who does own that 60,000 sq. ft. home? Now Al Gore’s home is a little less than 10,000 sq ft and two years ago he got a LEED award for being energy efficient and is doing better than some smaller homes. (smaller than his). George Bush new home is 4,000 sq ft. and the ranch home is 8,000 sq ft.. All homes of both Bush and Gore are energy efficient. That is what we should expect from public figures in home efficiencies. Bush ‘s ranch recycles rain water and Gore’s house has solar panels among other things.

          • 45caliber

            Interesting. He has a new home?

            The last I heard, his energy bill was about $1200 a month for the electricity to run everything at his home. That included the lighted driveway, heated swimming pool, etc.

          • Kate8

            Well, eddie, if you want to get technical, most of them have SEVERAL 10,000sq ft homes, but, why quibble.

            I was thinking about John Edwards’ 60,000 sq ft villa he built by doing his part in skyrocketing the cost of medical care. Of course, kharma bit him in the b*tt, but I digress.

            I can assure you that the world banking elite have palaces bigger than these. When they rid the Earth of vermin such as we, they’ll be able to do whatever they want. Unless, of course, there’s nothing left. Wouldn’t that be poetic justice. Kharma is a b*%#&.

          • RW

            We are all the “haves” if we spend time in gratitiude rather than condemnation. Must we look that far outside our four walls to find hypocrisy and areas of needed improvement? How many of us are espousing ideas via the internet while leaving the television on for background “companionship” instead of getting out and interacting with humans in person? How much change do you expect to create with this approach to living?

          • Kate8

            RW – I was merely commenting on the plans spelled out in Agenda 21.

            Are you not making a judgment based on a few comments? We are all much more multi-faceted than that. At least, I hope so.

          • Eddie47d

            Kate 8; I agree a 60,000 sq ft house is obscene. Even 20,000 sq ft is over the top. I use to like Edwards but haven’t for some time now.

          • http://deleted Claire

            I have nothing against the wealthy. Different strokes for different folks. I am totally satisfied with my life. The problem is that a lot of the wealthy people never have “enough” money, they always want more. How much money does it take to buy true happiness? 4 or 5 wives/husbands? 50 cars? All the companies and homes they can buy? The best food money can buy? The royal treatment? (Egads, don’t forget the plastic surgeries.) The idea that they can do as they please, be catered to? Maids and butlers, cooks, etc. (I sometimes wish I had a cook!) Being wealthy makes the “relatives” come out of the woodwork. Maybe some of them have “true” friends but one would always wonder if they were “friends” or if they were after the money. How many times are they “hit up” for loans, and don’t forget the moochers. Some do not pay their taxes, while the little guy has to or else. Money doesn’t always buy good health either. Sure, they have the money to pay for the best health care, but that does not make them totally free of health issues, especially the inherited kind. And when they die, they can’t take their money and material things with them. It will all be left for the “relatives” to fight over. Nope, I am not envious. I will keep my life the way it is.

          • RW

            Claire, –I know plenty of “little guys” who live by the same values you mentioned held by the wealthy. Those with no real assets to speak of follow the same misguided “path to happiness” you talked about. It’s not about status, income bracket, name, or profession…it’s about a healthy, balanced perspective.

            Kate8– Honestly, I don’t pay much attention to the specifics of the political commentary that is being made. The finger-pointing and blaming is what I don’t get. As I’ve mentioned before, unless we each get our houses in order, individually, I don’t see the relevance in looking at other people’s “houses.” So, if multi-faceted means pointing the finger at more than one group (ie. greenies, the rich, corporations, commies, liberals, etc.), yes, many of these commentors are multi-faceted. I have made no judgments on any of these commentors….just offering the perspective that the behavior of finger-pointing lacks productivity.

          • vicki

            Eddie47d writes:
            “Eddie47d says:
            Kate 8; I agree a 60,000 sq ft house is obscene. Even 20,000 sq ft is over the top.”

            I did not read anything by Kate that would indicate that she thought a house to be obscene just because it is bigger than a 1 room apt in NY. If the person got the house without fraud or theft it is non of your business how big it is.

          • Eddie47d

            You have a serious problem Vickie for you are a big smart azz. Kate said she didn’t like Edwards 60,000 sq ft house and that got the ball rolling. So take a chill and get over yourself.

          • Dan az

            Eddieeee
            check this out.
            oprahs tinny little house
            You might me surprised to find out that this lusciously green estate isn’t in North Carolina, but rather, Santa Barbra, California. The house is located on 42 acres of land. With 23,000 square feet of space, the estate has six bedrooms, fourteen bathrooms, and ten fireplaces.
            candy spellings diggs
            Producer Aaron Spelling’s widow, Candy Spelling has rights to the largest property in Los Angeles County. The home boasts a jaw dropping 56,500 square feet containing a wine cellar, wine tasting room, screening room, beauty parlor, sixteen carports, and loads more. The property was put up for sale recently for $150 million, making it the most expensive house in the United States.
            or how about donalds house you cant trump that.
            Located in Palm Beach, Florida, Donald Trump’s mansion truly “trumps” all of the surrounding homes. Trump’s estate has two guest houses, a 40 car parking garage, 4,100 square foot conservatory, and loads more. The home peaks the 80,000 square foot mark, and is worth an estimated $125 million.

          • Kate8

            Claire, RW and eddie – You are all off the whole point. I would hope that you know me better than that.

            I couldn’t care less how big someone’s house is. The issue was Agenda 21, and the plan of the elite to move us all into crowded, stacked housing in congested cities along railways. The countryside is to be off limits to the peasantry, and the playground of the elite.

            For some reason the elite think Earth is their private real estate, and we are their livestock. Maybe it’s just me, but I think that we all are here to share in the fruits of the Earth, and have a right to live in natural areas if we so choose. Personally, I’d die in the city.

            I don’t know how this got into a discussion about pointing fingers and all that. All I’m interested in is their grab for total power and control of our lives, telling us where to live and what to eat…

            RW, I have stated many times that we all need to clean up our lives and help to build a better world. Still, we can’t simply ignore the horrible plans being layed out and implemented against us, as if we are of no importance whatsoever.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Kate8–My post was not directed to you or anyone else. I simply stated my own personal feelings about my own life compared to the wealthy.

          • RW

            Kate8, –I would never claim to know someone by their words alone. Ignoring problems certainly makes no sense. Does complaining about them? How do those in power control your life? What is your definition of power? By what criteria do you define your life? I respectfully ask these questions of anyone willing to answer.

          • Kate8

            RW – I write these things not to “complain”, but to give warning. God commands us to watch and give warning.

            People who are brainwashed and unaware are easily controlled. So many believe that they must bow to “authority”, and I have been saying DO NOT BOW, but know how government is overstepping their own authority.

            Complaining for the sake of complaining is of no use. But urging people to see through the deception is absolutely necessary if we are to have any chance of overcoming.

            There is so much going on now, so many avenues of deception, so many ways in which we must all begin to re-evaluate our thinking and course of action…

            We must all come into alignment with spirit and know that there are things which must happen…and we must stop quarreling among ourselves…

          • RW

            Hi Kate8 — Humans have been oppressing other humans since the beginning of our birth on this planet. Governments oppress their citizens, parents oppress their children, spouses and lovers oppress their partners, etc. I don’t think the cause is brainwashing or even lack of awareness. I contend that most choose to remain unmoved because it is preferable to be comfortable rather than to face our fears. But the fear is not the fear of being controlled, it is the fear of being our best. Much easier to stay in the comfortable state of feeling unworthy than to rise to our highest expression of spirit…compassion, forgiveness, joy, freedom from our sef-created fears.

        • 45caliber

          And then IF we like the effect of their lead, then we can do the same, right?

          Reminds me of a group I ran into about thirty years ago. They wanted to abandon all tech developed after 1900, bull doze the country of all existing buildings, and then assign everyone two acres, a set of hand tools, and either a cow or horse. You were supposed to go to your two acres, build a place to live out of what you found there, and then make a living there by growing your own food.

          When I asked, I was told that everyone who get the land based on a lottery so it was possible that you might get some bad land. Still, it would be the best way to split it up. I suggested that they accept their two acres in Death Valley. If they would go there with their hand tools and cow and live for a year without any outside assistance, then I would be happy to consider their idea. For some reason they didn’t accept my proposal. Can’t imagine why …

        • Warrior

          Kate,
          Speaking of kharma, did you ever know someone who just seemed to have a black cloud over their head? No matter what that person ventured into, it always seem to fail or just bring about more trouble. It just seemed like they couldn’t escape bad things happening.

          I kinda get that sense with the current occupant of the WH.

          • Kate8

            Warrior – I’d dislike him less if his problem was only a black cloud.
            I think he’s carrying out the demise of America without a hitch, doing exactly what he was put there to do.

            It certainly doesn’t seem to bother him at all. He goes about his golf, vacations, parties and inane activities as if everything was peachy, laughing while Aemrica burns.

      • Ellen1

        hmmmm, smells like Agenda 21; in fact it reeks of it…..brought to you locally by ICLEI……boot these filth out!!!!!

    • Al Sieber

      s c and Michael J, the president and his secretary of the interior are proposing to take 220 million more acres away from us without going through congress, go to landrights.org. as far as tree huggers are concerned they’re not allowed in the local bar in town, and there’s not to many trees to hug near me, but lots of sharp nasty cactus plants they’re welcome to.

      • Michael J.

        Al Sieber,
        Land appropriation by the Fedral Government disgusts me as well. millions of acres fenced off each year confining us to nothing but asphalt eventually. Miles and miles of fence errected each year in our nations interior, and yet none along our borders?

        Additionally, how long will it take for people to realize that these barbed-wire barriers supposedly built to protect wild lands and preserve them for our future are actually fencing us into a smaller and smaller piece of monitorable, manageable livestock pens complete with ear-tags. (implanted RFID chips)

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Michael J,
          I will die before I am “chipped”!!!

          • Dan az

            Joe
            keep an eye on your dentist ya never know!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            My dentist is a family friend and well known!!

        • Jay

          Could the overpopulation myth play in this? Easier to manage a smaller population. Proposed reduction of 2/3 of present numbers.

    • JC

      “Has not the time come to demonstrate on solidarity—not least solidarity in combating and adapting to climate change and global warming? Mother Nature has again given us a sign that that is what we need to do…”

      This is, in and of itself, one of the most ridiculous, propoganda filled lies ever perpetrated on mankind. And all it’s done is scare the hell out of really stupid people, further empower criminal government and make the Reverend Al Gore fabulously wealthy so he can sit on his beachfront estate in Florida for the great rising of the oceans.

      I’ve met some of the Greenpeace folks. They need to learn something about bathing before they tell me how to keep anything else clean.
      Experts they’re NOT!

      And who’s idea was it anyway to put “4″ Nuclear Reactors at the same site in Sendai, Japan? What a bunch of morons. They KNOW they’re in a major quake zone don’t they?

      I’m not sure who the bigger bunch of idiots is…Greenpeace or the
      Japanese Nuclear Community.

      • Steve

        It seems to me that the containment “domes” on the reactors work very well…the problem was the Japs didn’t think about because their reactors are located right next to the ocean that maybe if a tsunami hit their backup generators might become flooded and thus useless resulting in a core meltdown…..so to me it’s a no brainer just make sure the back up generators can’t become flooded…and build a revervoir next to the reactor for emergency cooling…..

        • vicki

          Not being a nuclear reactor designer can you tell me why they need a backup generator? They ARE a generator. Use the power to run the systems that use the power. With 4 reactors close together they can even cover for each other should there be something in the design that makes it necessary to stop drawing power from the core while still needing power. Oh and there are battery systems that can store a lot of power and are not going to be stopped by getting wet.

          Of course one has to ask themselves how many backups of backups before they stop.

      • 45caliber

        JC:

        The Japanese are typical of the people who believe that man is the most powerful and important being on Earth. They built some buildings that were “earthquake proof” some years ago. A few years later, there was an earthquake and the buildings all collapsed.

        But they know what they are doing, I’m certain. Because they are certain of it.

        • JC

          Couple that with the “obvious” possibility of a chain reaction such as we are seeing, and you are more than right about it.
          On a side note, God Bless the people working to contain that mess.
          They are as good as dead and they know it.

          • http://deleted Claire

            JC–Your last two sentences speak volumes. Tragic.

    • RW

      Simply because the planet will eventually burn up in our sun’s dying days or some other natural galactic event that brings this beautiful experience to an end hardly means humans aren’t responsible for their destructive choices and shouldn’t alter behaviors that are wasteful and lack foresight. Sounds like the best point being made to support this writer’s point, besides the childish, unclever name-calling, is “well it’s all going to end anyway, so let’s party like it’s 1999.” Even if our contribution to global warming is small compared to natural causes does that really justify greed, waste, contamination, pollution, toxicity, and indifference created by humans? Extremists of all colors (“Greenies and “Black or Whites” alike) are far too caught up in egotistical expression to be able to put the proper focus on their individual growth and development, which is how we will create the best “home” while we’re here.

      • Eddie47d

        The earth is here for us to use not abuse. There will be millions who come after us so it’s not for us to use it all right now for our pleasures. I do like the slogan “Live simply so others may simply live”. Live well and as comfortable as you can make yourself but be aware of how much is being taken from our planet.

      • 45caliber

        The point is that the US is not all those things. Some individuals might be but not most of us. The problem is that many “greens” believe that if you aren’t as thrifty as they are then you fail.

        Actually, the US is the cleanest country in the world. If you don’t believe it visit some of the rest, like Mexico. And don’t visit the spots they haven’t settled yet – visit their big cities.

        • JC

          I’d put Canada up against that statement. ;)

        • Eddie47d

          I’ve been through much of Mexico. Some cities are clean and others are dumps.Queretaro 80 miles North of Mexico City was amazingly clean and pleasant.

    • Jay

      Very succinct, s c! They should lead by example, for sure!! They reject the Creator but they worship creation. Can madness be far behind?

    • Peter

      I so wish Ben and all those who agree with him would keep BOTH their hands ABOVE the table when they write! Tossers!

  • Michael J.

    Ben,
    While Mother Nature may well be the culprit here, there is also room for human acomplisses. The Pacific rim is becoming more and more active and it is a well known fact among vulcanologist/geologist that a little artificially induced stimulation at strategic pressure points could produce desired effects. There are those who will benefit from this destruction. Those who wish to weaken the dollar will secretly applaud this, or may actually have had a hand in creating the scenario.

    The Japanese own a sizable amount of U.S. debt, a commodity they may not want, nor be able to keep in light of recent events. Lets hope that Japanese financial bushido extends far enough to cover our collective American butte’s.

    I have loathesome admiration for Japanese ingenuity and hopes for near term Hai-Tech solutions to the devestation they are now faced with. After all, they’ve weathered storms like this before. Their full scale recovery after WW11 when they were faced with radioactive contamination, destroyed cities/infrastructure and a decimated economy proves they are worthy of the task.

    • andy

      michael J yes every one forgets that good ole uncle sam rebuilt japan
      into an industial power after WW II with our taxpayer dollars and it will probably happen again history always has a way of repeating itself regardless of all the learned lessons from the past

      • skippy

        just what I was thinking Andy. Thanks!

    • Kate8

      Michael J. – I found this US Navy map for 2011-2012.

      http://dprogram.net/2011/03/13/us-navy-map-of-the-future-%e2%80%93-is-this-now/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wordpress%2FBcwy+%28Deprogram%29&utm_content=Yahoo%21+Mail

      This should give us all something to think about, especially with the Pacific Rim acting up, whether natually or artificially.

      • 45caliber

        Kate8:

        I don’t believe that map at all. Some of that western area has some of the most rugged mountains in the world – and some of the highest. Before they would be submerged, about everything except Mt. Everest would be under water. And there is nothing to sink that land either.

        At present there is a section of crust containing much of the California coast that is presently moving north. The rest of the country is moving west (a few millimeters a year). That is what is creating the Cascade Mountains. The two sections are being jammed together.

        The main parts drifting apart is the Victoria Rift in Africa and the Americas and Europe. The Red Sea is also drifting some but not a lot.

        Someone needs to talk to some real geologists.

        • Kate8

          45, On the west coast, it’s mostly coastal ranges, the San Juaquin and Sacramento Valleys, and the plains between the Sierras and the Rockies. This map is conservative compared to the Hopi map.

          The west coast is plates floating on Magma, with great faultlines. It’s been predicted and prophesied for centuries that this area would one day be under water. It could be from earthquake, polar shifting or both. I don’t like the idea at all (I have a lot of family in the Valley), but I wouldn’t be so quick to discount it.

          The MIC has studied all of these plates and faults and, with things like multiple HAARP facilities around the world, has the ability to induce quakes, to help out “mother nature”.

          Of course, well have to watch and see. Then we have FEMA purchasing millions in emergency meals with only 3 years left on their shelf-life, to be used in the midwest New Madrid area.

          • 45caliber

            It won’t go under water. As I said, it is going north and uplifting the land. The only area that might (and eventually will) go underwater is the area between the Sea of California and Death Valley. Most is below sea level. (In fact at one time it was beneath the water. There is a Spanish ship somewhere in the desert there.) If a big enough quake comes along to crack the area between the two, it will all flood.

            But the mountains aren’t. They go deep as well as high. So there is no way they are going to go under water unless a lot of new info has come out in the last several years. I try to keep up with it since I love geology. (and I’m not one.) So I’m not worried about it.

            I’m also not really worried about the Mississippi River Valley. That is based on the ocean rising a LOT. According to what I’ve seen, the global warming people insist if the glaciers melt it will raise the ocean twenty feet or so (up to a hundred if you believe the worst) but the real figures is closer to 20 inches since the warmers figure all glacier areas at the maximum thickness, which isn’t true. For instance, most figure the Antartica at about 1500 feet of ice over the whole thing. But much of it is quite shallow. They also believe that all ice floating on the ocean (the Artic for instance) will raise the water level – which it won’t. Ice displaces the same amount of water as it contains.

            So unless the Mississippi Valley sinks – not expected – it won’t flood that far up.

          • Kate8

            45 – I hope you are right, but I wouldn’t presume to be able to predict one way or another.

            Time will tell, after all.

      • TIME

        Kate,

        That map is based on an Edgar Cayse reading from 1941.
        As well oddly enough its also a map that the Rosicrucians have, who by the way are the modern day Cathars. Who had this map when the French King Philip The fair killed off a mass of Cathars as well the Kinghts Templar. Keep in mind that at that time the United States / new world was not even known of, as the world was still flat.

        Thus these maps are well know to all who have studied the December 20 2012 allignment of what can be found to be “100% true” based on “NASA’s finding.” Also per what was written by Edgar Cayse about the Sun’s major area of Solar flares of what will be facing the earth straight on for over 48 months from that date 12 20 2012, again found to be “100% TRUTH by NASA.”

        In the Bible it speaks of the Anit Christ who will rule for 48 mounths before he is killed, strange how all this fits together? Now alos keep in mind the Gnostic text that speaks of the last war between the “Suns of Light v the Sons of Darknes.”
        If All that seem’s to wild of a ride, then for me to explain the rest would be a waste of TIME.

        I can’t tell all of you in any more of outright way, “Get right with your life, get right with your GOD.” And make the most of every moment of your life, LOVE your familys and your friends, act like the Leaders you will become.

        To all of YOU: NO ~ I am not crazy.

        Even if you have a brian the size of a pea you have to be picking up on all the “negative energy” that is growing daily all over the planet, STOP feeding it!
        OPEN YOUR MINDS to what you can’t even fathom, as the most outlandish Sicence Fiction can not beging to cover whats coming.

        One thing I agree 100% with Edwardo on is this planet is our home treat it with great respect, you don’t trash your home now do you?
        Enjoy Nature and LOVE the gifts GOD has given you on this BIG BLUE MARBLE.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    For anyone including Ben, I strongly suggest you look into the very real event where our solar system is crossing the equinox. This event isnt going to end the world, but it will change it. Look up Galactic Alignment in U-Tube. Theres a NASA Video describing the facts and the causes of Global Climate change.

    If your looking for more ammo to prove humans are responsible, you’ll be disappointed.

    • Gentle Ben

      Don’t forget the earth changing event when the sun passes over the Equator! Happens every year. It’s called “spring.”

      • Bitter Libertarian

        True. Problem is that this only happens every 25,000 years and its not a little event. Before crracking jokes, you may want to research it. You may find the currents events are directly related.

        • Al Sieber

          Bitter L., you are correct sir, I saw that on U- tube Sunday, thanks for bringing that up again.

          • Peter

            …and of course, if it’s on YouTube it must be true right? LOL You guys are SUCH UNBELIEVABLE MASTURBATORS! Take your collective heads out of the sand and look at the reality. At least read your Bible that you profess to believe in and realize that God is sending humanity a very serious message here. Turn back to him fully before it’s too late. Get rid of this notion of freedom. You haven’t been free for so many years it’s laughable! Corporate America buys and sells your rights every day. Only GOD has the true answers, but you MUST rid yourselves of this GOP garbage and avoid the Dem garbage as well. Go back to the One true GOD and you WILL find deliverance. Here endeth the lesson. Many will ignore it I know. Sad.

          • Al Sieber

            Peter, quit being such being such a ignorant a$$ hole, the earth goes changes.

          • Al Sieber

            You’re the one that’s obsessed with masturbation, and do you know what freedom really is?

          • Jay

            Not everyone Peter, thanks for saying what we all need to hear.

        • Kate8

          Bitter and Al – Don’t forget to add in that it is also the return of Nibiru, El Diablo, Planet X (or whatever name you want to use), also known as the “death star”, in its 3660 year cycle. This is also in the ancient records, has been seen by astronomers, and its proximity to Earth also kicks up violent Earth changes.

          It seems that we have multiple influences going on. It also appears that a Divine Intelligence set things up this way.

          • Al Sieber

            Kate, I’m well aware of what you’re talking about, thanks for bringing it up.

        • Michael J.

          Bitter Libertarian,
          2012 predictions are of periferal concern to me, although I do chew on the written material available and spit out the useless stuff just like watermelon seeds. The part that’s worrisome to me is that Nasa scientist claim that there is absolutely nothing to be concerned about in their off hand dismissal of prophetic possibilities. Believing Obama’s NASA puppets is a failing of the naive progressive weaklings, not me.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Michael J.
            If it is truely as bad as some predict, there will be nothing we can do to avoid the consequenses so I am not going to get all doom and gloom. If it puts me one day closer to being with my Lord, then let it be. It isn’t to be feared but to be cherished.

          • Kate8

            Joe H – Whatever is coming, we can choose to use whatever time we have left to live better, love more and, maybe, make the world just a little bit better. In my mind, it is more merciful to sense something big is at hand so we have the chance to re-evaluate and re-prioritize, and make the most of life in the mean time.

            If we do this, and nothing happens, we’ve only created a better place!

  • Paul Brown

    If the LORD was able to provide for his people during the exodus of Egypt and take care of all of the things necessary for those forty years like clothing, sandals, food, etc., I would be more inclined to believe that all the stupid stuff your talking about is a waste of your breath. What part of that don’t you understand? Even IF there is no GOD, it’s a better way to live than the fear you’re living in. If you can’t understand FAITH; then you deserve to live in fear for you have NO hope…

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Just remember the lesson of Lots wife…dont hesitate–dont look back when things happen! You wont turn into a pillar of salt but you may very well become fertilizer.

      • 45caliber

        Good point.

      • vicki

        ammonium nitrate is a salt.

    • Kate8

      Paul – You are right – God has always provided an escape for His people. But if you believe in Him, you also know that all of these things are prophesied to occur, not to inspire fear (“fear not”, “be not dismayed”), but to get prepared, especially spiritually.

      If someone knew for sure that your home was in line for a direct hit, would you call being warned about it “fear-mongering”? God tells us to watch and be aware, and rebukes those who cannot read the signs.

      God also promised that His faithful are not “appointed to wrath”. We have little time now to get our “houses” in order. Whether there is a “rapture” or we die, life goes on regardless.

      “When you see these things, look up! Your redemption draws nigh.”

      • Dan az

        Kate
        I was just told about a prediction for the big one in caly to be on this sat.!Im going to check it out you do the same!

        • Kate8

          Dan az – let me know if you come up with something. I will, too.

          Whatever the timing, things are getting intense. I’ve been feeling it like crazy, and so have my cats. In fact, a couple of days before the Japan quake, I told my daughter I had a dream that a big earthquake happened, and shook for several minutes. I also felt it in my bones.

          • Dan az

            Kate me to and with my bones it just makes me aggravated not the best sign but it happened at the very minute it hit.I’m still looking for the site that my wife found and forgot where she saw it because it redirected her to another and she didn’t pay attention to it.I’ll keep looking!

          • Dan az

            Kate
            I’m giving up for the night but I did find something interesting,The poles are shifting 37 ft. per yr.and the magnetic field is weakening extremely fast.Thats going to leave us unguarded against the flares of the sun that has been reversing its poles.Anyway Ill look tomorrow.

          • libertytrain

            Dan and Kate – here’s one I just found: http://www.quakeprediction.com/

          • Kate8

            Thanks, liberty. I think this must be the site my daughter uses, but it only goes for a 3 day period.

            I still haven’t found anything for Saturday.

          • Kate8

            Dan az – Yes, I do know that the poles are shifting, and the shifting is accelerating. It’s creating havoc with people’s own magnetic fields.

            I suspect that most people are feeling it. The majority of them just don’t know what they’re feeling. Changes are afoot, and things are getting crazy.

            All we can do is prepare for our families as best we can, and take life a day at a time. Each day we awaken in safety, give thanks, and do what we can to make ourselves a bit better with the gift of that day. Do something new, something out of love, for no other reason.

            Remember when the deciples were on the boat, and the water began to toss? They became afraid, and called to Yeshua, who came to them walking upon the water. Peter asked to walk on the water, also, so Yeshua bid him to come. We walked safely as long as his eyes were on the Lord, but the water got rougher and he looked away, afraid, and began to sink. Yeshua said, “Oh ye of little faith”.

            We will walk safely through the storms ahead if we keep our eyes on God and all that is holy. If we put our faith in the trouble around us, we will be swallowed up by it.

            BTW, Coast to Coast a.m. has so many wonderful guests every night (some more so, some less so), many of them talking about all these things, and more. Don’t know if you ever listen, as it’s 10pm – 2am Pacific time. I can’t always stay awake, but I try if it’s one of my favorite guests. You might want to check it out sometime.

          • Kate8

            Dan az – Tonights guest is Major Ed Dames, a military remote viewer and now RV teacher, talking about earthquakes. I think he’s on at 11, after the first guest.

            http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/upcoming

          • Dan az
          • Dan az

            Kate
            BTW thanks for the site but the only radio that I have is in my truck!
            And I dont last much longer than 9 pm would luv to hear him speak sounds familiar.

          • Kate8

            Dan az – Thanks for the info. I’ll listen to it again when I can concentrate better.

            My radio is an emergency, battery radio. It’s great. Coast to Coast is the BIGGEST nighttime program, and is on all the major stations.

            Godspeed, my friend.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Ted Ackman

    Finally, I’m asking the question out loud: Because so many people refer to ‘Mother Earth’, do they [you] know who your Father is?

    • Raggs

      That would be GOD!

      • Eddie47d

        Then respect your Father and the Earth he has provided for us.

        • Raggs

          I do…. however we are all comsumers of the bounty’s God gave us…
          I just so happen work in the coal industry retro fitting the old facilities with upgrades with new enviormental friendly and cleaner air components.

          • Eddie47d

            That’s the best statement I’ve ever heard from you. Even the coal companies need to clean up and we thank your company for doing so.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Raggs–Good for you.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Raggs,
            I’ve heard those new scrubbers are pretty efficient! Good for ya!!

          • Jay

            “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it;

        • Bitter Libertarian

          I agree 100%! On the condition that respect doesnt mean worship.

  • 45caliber

    When I took a course called “Environmental Geology” the professor made a point the first day that I’ll always remember.

    He said, “No matter what anyone says of nature and the environment, remember that man is PART of that environment.”

    Too many “green” people want to insist that man is and should be outside that environment – except them, of course. We destroy it but do nothing to live with it or aid it.

    That is wrong. All of us care for the environment and work to help it – but we do it as part of the real environment.

    • Al Sieber

      Good point 45, 99.9% of the “Greenies” never been out in the wilds, their terrified of the wilderness, I live out in the wilderness and I’m terrified of the cities. from my front door I can barely see the lights on I-40 30 miles away with binoculars, other wise I’m surrounded by mountains. the people that live and work out in nature take care of it the best because they’re in harmony with it, we are all connected to the earth. what really pisses me off is the garbage the illegal aliens leave behind, why aren’t the “Greenies” after them, but that would be politically incorrect.

      • Kate8

        It was never US who polluted the planet in the first place. The decision to poison the Earth was a deliberate one, made by the Elites, in order to slowly bring the demise of all living things.

        Of course, the only way they could get by without a huge public outcry was to blame it on us. It is not even within our power to do this, but only on a corporate level.

        It has been but one front of their many assaults on humanity.

        • Ellen1

          Very well said, Kate8.

      • Eddie47d

        Al; The greenies do venture out into the wilds. Go check out the REI Stores and watch the environmentally friendly people buy up the gear. They hike,bike and climb mountains and few leave messes.Some environmentalist groups do talk about the illegal invasion.They don’t like the trash they leave on the border or the population disturbance they bring. They also drain our water resources as all citizens do but they make it hard for planning.Maybe if you joined a conservation group and there are several you can see and read what they do. They are a good bunch of people.

        • 45caliber

          And a FEW leave messes?

          Ask some land owners in Montana, a favorite place for California environmentalists to go. They are destroying a lot of fragile land and leaving trash everywhere!

          • s c

            45 caliber, ask Captin Kosmic [aka Eduardo] when greenies and progressives will do the right thing and go to Arizona to clean up the TONS of GARBAGE left by invading illegals. Al Sieber can tell you that America’s space cadet ultraliberals know how to ignore that topic.
            It makes me wonder how they can be true to Mama Earth when they’re busy being indifferent and anything but compassionate regarding their moral obligation to ‘save Mama Earth.’ Enlightened, my aching asterisk.
            If nothing else, World Teacher Schmuckenputz [aka Gore] should be leading the charge into Arizona to clean up that damned mess [don't hold your breath on that one, folks].

          • Eddie47d

            The Klingon SC is back. Considering that those crazy Minutemen may still be on the border,plus a few troops I don’t think it would be wise to jeopardize one’s life for trash pick up. Let’s see where and when big mouth SC has served in picking up leftovers on the border? This answer has got to be delicious. In February I spent 4 hours picking up trash along a local creek.

  • http://n.cates@cox.net Norman F.

    45 caliber you have just stated the ultimate result that the “greens” want for the earth. Look up “agenda 21″ and you will see the future they plan for us. The so-called restoration of the Everglades in Florida shows their plan for the entire US. A significant ultimate end to it is a population of four million living in small communities much as the serfs in old England.

    • Al Sieber

      Well it’s time to start sticking up for our rights, go to landrights.org.

    • Ellen1

      Right you are, Norman F, with ICLEI destroying things locally.

  • electricmamabear

    Notice how the “Green Earth-ers” are the ones who leave a mess of trash wherever they go? They indoctrinated the youth of Northern California so well, that a group of home grown eco-terrorists were burning down new housing developements outside of Sacramento a few years ago. Gee, how good for the environment was all of that smoke and burning plastic? The results of their 30 year war on evil big Lumber has had real visable results in both Coastal Northern California and Oregon…NO JOBS! Oh wait…There is a new GREEN economy growing there…MARAJUANA! Heck, even the little kids get to help “Green” the planet by working 12-14 hours a day picking the only cash crop! But don’t forget how lovely the State and National forests look now. Oh! That’s right, you don’t dare go into the forests due to the pot farms and Meth labs that are protected by the armed
    “undocumented immigrants” They are so much more profitable and POISONOUS than big lumber or mining ever was! After 30 years of liberal environmentalist abuse, I gave up and moved to Texas! Actions speak louder than words!

    • Al Sieber

      Very well put electric.

    • 45caliber

      electric:

      They started as “green” but then realized what a capitolistic things nature could be in the right hands – theirs.

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    Omnicide: the killing of everything
    Dec 15, 2010 … Omnicide: the killing of everything. Earth’s sixth mass extinction of life. “ Great biological diversity takes long stretches of geologic …
    http://www.oilempire.us/omnicide.html – Cached

    • Eddie47d

      Philippine divers go after rare fish and spray them with cyanide to stun them. That in itself is reckless but that cyanide float onto the coral and kills it and all the other fish. The coral dies and there are fewer fish. That is only a small number of divers yet they do tremendous damage and we slowly poison this earth.

      • Ellen1

        You have valid points, Eddie47d. My question is this: What about the humongous elephant in the skies, consisting of the poisons dispersed by the chemtrails that affect EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING? We point to tailpipe emissions but fail to address the poisons that are destroying everything from our skies. The aluminum is changing the pH of our soils so that they will no longer grow our heirloom, non-GM seeds. We ALL are being poisoned wholesale by whoever is behind this. Clean air is the MOST basic of all needs, FOR ALL, and it has been probably forever altered and poisoned.

        • Kate8

          Ellen1 – Chemtrails are the most obvious of all the direct assaults on us, yet it is totally taboo as a topic of discussion. If the media refuse to report it, politicians refuse to address it, and anyone who dares to speak of it gets labelled as “tin-foil hat” (despite the fact that they are there for all to see), then, at least in most minds, it doesn’t exist. Speaking of this always gets some snorts and guffaws from the liberal camp.

          It’s astounding how easily we are mind-controlled. Anything that is too incomprehensible for most folks is denied. Believing is seeing, after all, and not believing is not seeing. We make things so easy for the PTB to advance their plots.

          I have been noticing that, after a rainstorm here, a major flu breaks out. This has been happening over and over. Pneumonia is rampant.

          There are ways we can neurtalize these toxic effects on us, but this information is kept under wraps. One has to ferret such info out. If enough of us were willing to do it, and put it into collective use, we could walk through it without harm. Remember that all things in existence are made of the same basic elements.

  • jopa

    All this environmental talk reminds me of a time in my younger days when I applied for a job at a logging company.The foreman asked where I have had any timber cutting experience.I told him in the Gobi, Sahara, and Kalahari forests.He called me a dumb a– and said “those aren’t forests those are deserts”. I said now they are, and got the job.

    • Cawmun Cents

      Yes thats right…quote a light beer commercial and let us all see how illuminated your humor is.Dont you know that Suds McHenry says that light beer is for whimps?Thats the problem with America today….everyone is drinking watered down beer and trying to keep slim and slender like the fashion models in the magazines….What a bunch of girls that drink light beer….no flavor,no character,just like the liberals who drink it.

  • Santi

    Back in 1996 I started to see numbers. I thought maybe I could win the lotto with that. The nubers I kept on seeing always ended with the number 11. I never thought about it until I started listening to the wind and the thunder when it rained. I told some of my fammily members about what was happening to me. I told them something was going to happen in the year of 2011. They thought I was out there, until it started happening. I told them to get straight with JESUS because things were going to get strange, so now I am telling all of you to get down on your knees and ask the LORD JESUS CHRIST for forgiveness and follow him.

  • barbm

    i’ve always been against nuclear power, and nothing has changed to make me change my mind. who owns most of the world’s unranium? oil companies – 70 + percent, i believe. (that’s a figure from my physics class back in the late 70s/early 80s so it may have changed by now.)when they put the south texas nuclear project in bay city, tx, if we tree huggers hadn’t been on top of it, it would’ve probably blown by now. we forced the nrc to make them correct the problems. there were huge voids in the concrete that contains the reactors that wouldn’t have held if there had been a problem, we found improper welds in the cooling system that could’ve been catastrophic. they hired illegal aliens to do the work – people who couldn’t even speak the language and had no real training. we also found evidence that inspectors were bribed by houston power and light. so, my 1st issue is that we shoudln’t have had to bring suit against a company that should’ve had the safety of the populace 1st and foremost in mind. add to that that we have to store radioactive material. where, in your back yard? not in mine, thanks. there’s no metal that can hold that stuff that won’t corrode, no glass that couldn’t break if there was an earth shift from say an earth quake, and no place we can store it that won’t have to be guarded forever to keep terrorists from stealing it to make dirty bombs. they call it cheap energy, but when you add the cost of shipping, storing, and guarding it forever, it’s not so cheap after all. some of the waste becomes not harmful in 6 months, but most lasts for over 10,000 years, and some takes milleniums. that’s forever. when you add those costs, the dollar amount doesn’t add up to cheap energy. also, when the earth is covered with nuclear plants that MUST have nothing but uranium to run, the cost of uranium will go way up because the owners will be able to hold us hostage so to speak. if there are leaks, and the earth, water, and air become polluted, we’re screwed. humans are innovative and creative. they just need a reason to come up with alternative, renewable energy sources and to modify cars, homes, etc to use less energy. but we’re fighting the oil companies that own our govt with their lobbyists. you can be a republican or, in my case, an independent and still have a social conscience. i don’t want to leave this kind of mess on our planet for generations into the future to have to deal with because of our greed and selfishness.

    • independant thinker

      Until you can provide some PRACTICAL alternate solutions for our power nuclear is the best bet for our long term energy needs.

      • 45caliber

        I agree – and I live near Bay City.

        I’m not sure who the “we” barbm is talking about though. It certainly wasn’t the individuals who live around the area. It was independent inspectors as required by law who found the problems and got them corrected. All companies know there can be problems and all use inspectors to find them so they can be corrected.

        • Eddie47d

          There are about a dozen reactors built near fault lines such as in the Memphis area and Southern California. Wise planning and where they are built is a must. Unfortunetely they need a large water source and that also effects the folks who live near them. They do take alot of careful planning.

          • Kate8

            barbm – I have always been against nuclear power as well. It’s just too dangerous, in so many ways. And has history has proven, it takes only one major incident to kill and/or sicken millions for decades.

            There are so many other, cleaner and more efficient, ways to generate power, but they are not developed because they would cause too much energy independence. It’s all about the money and central control.

            We simply cannot reliably contain nuclear materials. I’d rather go back to candles and woodstoves than build more nuclear plants.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Kate8—I am with you all the way regarding your comments. Regarding Nuclear power plants, I do not care what anyone says-they are not foolproof.

        • barbm

          lanny sinkin, a woman named pat who’s last name escapes me, and i filed suit. is it that “we” to which you are referring?

          • 45caliber

            The suit didn’t discover it; the inspectors did. If you were the cause the inspectors checked, good work. But everywhere I know, the inspectors also go in too.

          • barbm

            actually, we were approached by a former worker who saw what was happening including the bribes to inspectors. had they been doing their jobs – the inspectors – there would’ve been no bad welds or concrete voids. do you really think u.s. officials/workers can’t be bribed?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            barbm,
            Being named the executive director of Solar San Antonio wouldn’t make him just a little biased?? I suppose he wouldn’t have anything to gain from the suit, now would he??

          • barbm

            this was back in the late 70s when lanny was a kid just starting college. his parents were and are very active in conservation circles in the san antonio area. him mom founded the edwards aquafer preservation trust and made it her life’s mission to stop all building over the heart of the edwards aquafer. withou the aquafer, san antonio would have no decent drinking water. when s.a. was considering investing in another reactor, i asked lanny if he was going to get involved. he said they’d never take him seriously because his family was doing the solar thing. he’s quite a principled man and level-headed. was just a boy back when, but already principled. his family had money and used it altruistically rather than using their good works to make them money. his father put san antonio on the map by bringing the words fair here back in the 60s. he made some money off of it, but not as much as he’d expected. movers and shakers in s.a..

      • barbm

        not sure what you mean by “practical.” i remember years ago seeing on a news show, 60 minutes maybe, report about a town in california where the city asked homeowners to contribute $50 toward putting solar energy on their homes. pretty much everybody did it. they not only generated enough energy to hardly pay any electric bills, they were able to make a profit for the town by selling the excess to other towns. there were days when it was too cloudy, so they had to go on the grid to get power. here in san antonio where the mayor is actively trying to get solar used, a family put solar units on their home and were immediately shut down by their hoa. so, now the city has to pass a lww making it illegal for an hoa to prohibit them.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          barbm,
          There was a group that wanted to put up the largest solar array in the US in California and a group of “Greenies” blocked it for a lizard and a tortise!!! now mind you this is a state that HAS to go out of state for its power needs and the project is stopped because of a freakin lizard and a tortise!!!

          • Eddie47d

            Actually they could have solved that fairly easily. Send out a couple of teams gather up the lizards and tortoises. Keep them for the time the panels are built and then release them back. Those panels may even benefit the little critters.

          • barbm

            i think that, if done right, wild life and fauna can thrive amidst solar plants, windmills, whatever. i don’t think they should stop the building, but there’s nothing wrong with setting aside land or creating a pond – whatever it takes to not make them extinct. if they can’t be saved at that location, move them. why can’t there be a little give and take on all sides so that we can continue to move forward? i’m not a typical republican with no social conscience and concerned only with the almighty buck. i’m an independent with a right leaning bent that makes ronald reagan look like a commie when it comes to the constitution, the use of my tax dollars, and the safety of my family. but i want to leave the smallest carbon footprint possible. it’s not that i believe in global warming, i just don’t see why we need to decimate the earth.

          • Eddie47d

            That is refreshing to hear.

          • Kate8

            barbm – I take real exception to your comment about a “typical republican” without social conscience and wanting to trash the Earth.

            I don’t know of ANY Republican who wants to trash the Earth. That has been Left-wing propaganda since I was a child. Republicans are no more about the almighty dollar than are Democrats, and most of them are far more compassionate about humanity and the environment than are Lefties.

            When you speak of elites, they are all pretty much the same. Parties only exist as a power-base, and they both cater to the corporate interests that pollute the Earth. But among the people, we all care about the Earth. When you make stupid statements like that, I see that you are more of a Lefty than you admit.

            I’ve given up on parties, but I am a conservative. My family has always gardened ORGANICALLY, and I honor ALL lifeforms, and do all I can to avoid killing even pests. The Earth is our mother, and if she is sick, we all die.

          • Kate8

            Oh, and BTW, barbm. Where I live, nearly ALL of the real estate and developing moguls are Democrats, and have been for as long as I can remember. In fact, this was a small conservative town, not really wanting development, but the liberal developers came, anyway, and now we’re overrun with Leftists, traffic, illegal aliens, living complexes, government social programs and CVS pharmacies.

          • Jana

            barbm,
            I totally agree with you on all you said, EXCEPT the statement about Republicans. “typical republican” without social conscience and wanting to trash the Earth.”
            Kate8 is right, I don’t know of any Republicans that feel that way either.

    • http://deleted Claire

      barbm–Good post. You are right on.

  • ONTIME

    This fear of nuclear exposure can and does become somewhat extreme, we are exposed to all types of radiation emmanating from space and good ol’ earth, then there is the stuff we make in addition, uranium, platonium, heavy waters, gamma, x-ray all figure into our precarious existence on the face of the Blue Marble. We have made messes on the planet and the planet has absorbed them and cleansed itself, just as has the planet made it’s own messes by natural cause and it will eventually clean that up, there is outside interference, meteor hits, sun burst and God knows what other things occur that we have not discovered, living on this planet and planning to be comfortable and happy are usually pretty decent odds, then again they can change in a heartbeat.

    Humans did not evolve because they were sissies, they are natural engineers with a heavy does of survival instinct built into to their DNA, so even thoughthere are those among us who think that whinning and sitting on your hands will produce longevity, our history says that is flat wrong. Life will not improve without taking chances to make your environment more conducive, no matter how badly you want to preserve a way of life that change is going to come, it is a part of our make-up and we refuse to live in squalid fear. By arguing, testing and trying we humans still manage to move forward and progress in painful increments, sometimes willingly but usually kicking and screaming. We like to pride ourselves on how smart we have become, we have improved our tools and are still sharpening our spears but it is still considered progress even though the same old instincts are involved….

    • 45caliber

      I agree with you. Basically, as far as Earth is concerned, man is little more than ants building their little hills to live in. And Earth pays just as much attention to us.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      I agree, only partly.
      The reality here is Alpha & Beta radiation which can contaminate: Food, water & the Human body through ingestion & inhalation.
      Its carried by dust & water vapor for thousands of miles and when it settels down, can get stirred up by any thousand means and enter your body days and weeks after. Until it is washed into the earth its an airborne hazzard (no matter how slight.) Then its in the water system. :)

      Not something to panic over, but knowing the hazzards is important.

  • jopa

    Cawman nonsense;Thats an old joke from back in the sixties.You can have your lite beer I like the real deal.Heineken or Bud and not the lite crap, I will save that for you.Never heard of Suds McHenry, are you familiar with Aristotle or Socrates?

  • http://com i41

    barb, it usedo be true a few years ago. Now russia and China have the largest urainuim mines, All over the world and in Wyo. Russiajust the approval last late Nov and early Dec by Geithner of the Tresury Dept. Even though several Rep and Sen wrote letters complaiming about sdelling and giving these 2 countries ownership and control. Russia office for Amertz is in Moscow and doesn’t list the other companies in the company. See the connection between the marxist/communists and the soros socialist dumocraps?

    • Eddie47d

      Never heard anything about that and how does Soros fit in? Did you just throw his name in the hat for your usual and very odd name calling? You are the oxymoron in most of what you say.

  • http://com i41

    eddee, careful planning and democraps, kind of a oxymoron. The book educated slubs would never think of using gravity to cool the nuke plants too simple. Go thru the Coors brewery, who use gravity to move grain and water, to not use motors and electricity. Go to any engineering schools and ask the professors what percentage of students an come up with some problem solving situstion, by thinking out of the box, zero unless they are given a problem, every thing more complecated and convoluted than the soulition need to be. No practical experience exept what they are told and what needs to be done.

  • http://deleted Claire

    The Koch Brothers want less regulations regarding the environment and basically everything and anything else. They have significant coal interests in Wisconsin. And no doubt the Wisconsin power plants come into play.

  • Antonio

    The quake in Japan was a bad and also the one in Haiti. We will never now if it was a natural disaster or the act of the government in an attempt to create yet another disaster to further implement their regulations. You will be surprised at what they can do with the use of SCALAR WEAPONRY.

  • Jay

    Copenhagen Conference Has Massive Carbon Footprints

    The U.N. estimates the 12-day conference will create 40,584 tons of carbon dioxide equivalents, roughly the same amount as the carbon emissions of Morocco in 2006.

    Those greenhouse gas emissions are comprised of two parts: international travel and local emissions from hotels and transportation venues. Organizers will also reportedly lay 900 kilometers of computer cable and 50,000 square miles of carpet, along with more than 200,000 meals to be served and 200,000 cups of coffee.

    The one bright spot is that the announcement that former Vice President Al Gore will not be delivering one of his soporific speeches at Copenhagen may result in a statistically significant reduction in the amount of coffee consumed by delegates striving to remain awake.

    Given the sudden implosion of what little remained of the credibility of the global-warming theory in the wake of “Climategate,” the destruction of data at the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia, and the embarrassing delays at NASA regarding their own ability to produce the data that allegedly informed that agency’s findings, one might wonder what could remain on the conference agenda. Nevertheless, lacking demonstrable scientific proof to support the radical agenda that was originally advanced for Copenhagen, it may still be expected that the “four essential” questions recently set forth by UN officials remain on track for discussion and action:

    1. How much are the industrialized countries willing to reduce their emissions of greenhouse gases?


    2. How much are major developing countries such as China and India willing to do to limit the growth of their emissions?

    
3. How is the help needed by developing countries to engage in reducing their emissions and adapting to the impacts of climate change going to be financed?


    4. How is that money going to be managed?

    In short, while delegates whose raison d’être for gathering in the first place has been subjected to justified public ridicule, nothing will have changed concerning the fundamental policy goals that will be set forth before the world.

    And the United States delegation will apparently be leading the way to accomplishing an agenda that threatens the prosperity of their own nation.

    Again, according to FOXNews.com:

    President Obama will travel to the Danish capital on Dec. 9 to offer his goal of cutting emissions 17 percent by 2020, in line with a bill passed by the House in June and slightly less than a 20-percent decrease proposed in the Senate.

    “The president going to Copenhagen will give positive momentum to the negotiations,” Michael Froman, Obama’s deputy national security adviser for international economies, told reporters last month. “We think it will enhance prospects for success.”

    Joined by up to seven cabinet members, Obama will also propose reducing emissions by 83 percent by 2050 and a 30 percent reduction in 2005 levels by 2025. China and India have said industrialized countries like the United States — the biggest greenhouse gas producer among developed nations — must be willing to slash carbon output 40 percent by 2020 from 1990 levels if it expects poorer economies to agree to long-term goals.

    Such reductions can only be accomplished at a very great cost. That the rationale for enduring such costs has been undermined, if not eliminated entirely, why proceed? In part because the political elites cannot endure looking foolish, and in part because it is the environmental excuse for the agenda for a radical economic redistribution that will be pushed at Copenhagen, which has been about power and social engineering all along. In advancing their agenda, the internationalists can justify anything — even the pollution they produce while “saving the Earth from pollution.”

    • Eddie47d

      It took alot of man power and money to build the Great Wall of China and for us to send a man to the moon and to fight in WWII. Life goes on and it will take alot more money to solve the world’s problems and even ours. To calculate what is being used to get to conferences to solve big problems is silly and counter productive. We’d have to close down all businesses and everybody just stay home and put their heads in the sand.

      • Jay

        To calculate what is being used to get to conferences to solve big problems, (Actually, the problem being discussed at that particular conference was global warming, and the article simply points out, with tongue in cheek, the irony) is silly and counter productive.

        Obama will also propose reducing emissions by 83 percent by 2050 and a 30 percent reduction in 2005 levels by 2025.

        And to help him get this done, he appoints Energy Secretary Steven Chu, who, like a bull in china shop, is methodically bankrupting the American coal industry via EPA regulations. Now White House Energy Secretary Steven Chu has made it clear that “massive” amounts of coal-fired plants in the United States will be closed down over the next five to eight years. He does not mention what will replace them, he uses the term, clean energy , whatever that means, just that they will be shut down. Meanwhile, China is building coal-fired plants at an unprecedented rate.

        China and India have said industrialized countries like the United States — the biggest greenhouse gas producer among developed nations.

        The above statement is not only a lie, its also nothing short of idiotic!

        United Sates must be willing to slash carbon output 40 percent by 2020 from 1990 levels if it expects poorer economies to agree to long-term goals. Another words, we’ll start, when you Americans are bankrupt and destroyed.

      • Dan az

        If you think about it obumer is just about there now,With no industry to speak of and no jobs means less cars on the roads.So yes he probably has this all planned out how he is going to do it.Raise the cost of oil and no one will be driving let alone eating so with less population problem solved.

  • jopa

    Antonio: Come on now are you really serious?

  • Antonio

    the UN estimates??? jaja The UN is exactlly the ones who want to control you and the world. OH and yes i am serious just try doing just a little research on SCALAR WAVES and SCALAR WEAPONRY. Dont believe everything the UN tells you.
    I have a series of videos on youtube if you wish to watch and i made so as to inform the people about truth. There are 13 as of today enjoy them and continue your research on things like operation cloverleaf, haarp, scalar weaponry. peace.
    http://www.youtube.com/frombabeltoireland
    when are there clik “upload” look for videos titled “the 2012 nwo agenda” watch in order 1 — 13

    • Kate8

      Antonio – I wouldn’t bother trying to explain or convince the token leftists here. They’ll only make fun of you. They buy the “official” word on everything.

      • Denniso

        Kate, do you mean like the ‘official’ word that nuclear energy is safe and clean? I rather think it’s the rightwing who falls for that ‘official’ word. You?

        • Kate8

          Denniso – NO. I’m talking about the “official” word on things like HAARP, SCALER energy, chemtrails, areas of population being targeted for “bio-warfare” experimentation, etc. etc. etc.

          The government denies it, and you buy the denial.

          BTW, I have always been opposed to nuclear power. MANY on the right are. And many on the left are for it. I’ll bet, though, if it’s existence hadn’t been made public early on, you wouldn’t believe in that, either, because it’s no less fantastic than the above-mentioned technologies. It just couldn’t be covered up as well.

        • denniso

          Sorry, but I can’t follow your comment…

          • Kate8

            denniso – Why does that not surprise me.

          • Denniso

            So tell me, what do you mean by,’if it’s existence hadn’t been made public early on,you wouldn’t believe in that either’? Your comment doesn’t make sense.

    • Dan az

      Hey Antonio
      Good stuff makes ya wonder huh?

  • Bert Cundle

    Well… I helped build, San_Onofre_Nuclear_Generating_Station. At The Time I was Scared of the Dangers! ButOur Government is like the Pit Bull in a Poodle Show. The Sooner we MOVE ON TO SOLAR, THE BETTER!

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