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Obama’s War: Politically Smart Or Armageddon?

September 1, 2010 by  

Obama’s War: Politically Smart Or Armageddon?

“The world must prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. I will take no options off the table in dealing with this potential Iranian threat.Barack Obama.

What better way to prove he is not a Muslim than for President Barack Obama to strike at the heart of the Middle East? And what better way to reflate the economy, unite the nation and secure America’s future energy needs? It’s a grand slam and the White House knows it.

Then again, Iran is making it easy for Obama to get his war. Tehran’s leaders appear to have graduated from the Adolf Hitler School of Diplomacy. The day after announcing the start-up of Iran’s Russian-built Bushehr nuclear power plant President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad pulled a cover away from an aircraft called the Karrar and announced it was Iran’s first long-range drone. Not so subtly the Iranians have coined it, “The Ambassador of Death”.

Furthermore says Ahmadinejad, “Enemies know well that Iran is an invincible fortress and I do not believe the U.S. masters of the Zionists will allow the regime to take any measures against Iran.”

Not so quick President Mahmoud. The last leader that questioned an American President’s will for war was the leader of your next door neighbor. That president, named Saddam, saw not one but two wars with the United States; one initiated by the father, the other by the son.

All this has left the United States and Israel hinting war with Iran. Washington and Jerusalem are disconcerted after the Islamic Republic has shown off all its weaponry; everything from new mini-submarines to a surface-to-surface missile. Tehran has even announced plans to launch high-altitude satellites over the next three years.

The Truth Behind The Exit From Iraq
In August the U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mike Mullen said the U.S. has a plan in place to attack Iran, if it is necessary. Executing this plan no doubt calls for the U.S. to shuffle its overseas assets, including its standing army in Iraq. It is no coincidence that within a week of Mullen’s comments, Obama touted his planned withdrawal, saying: “As a candidate for President, I pledged to bring the war in Iraq to a responsible end… Shortly after taking office; I announced our new strategy… for a transition to full Iraqi responsibility. And I made it clear that by Aug. 31, 2010, America’s combat mission in Iraq would end. And that is exactly what we are doing — as promised, on schedule.”

The Obama administration and mainstream media have celebrated the Iraq withdrawal announcement as if it were V-E Day.

The truth, says Stephen Lendman, OpEdNews: “Unmentioned was combat readiness remaining, paramilitary army additions replacing those leaving, shifting Iraq forces to Afghanistan, increasing hostilities against Pakistan, committing daily war crimes throughout the region, planning more conflicts ahead, continuing America’s permanent war agenda.”

More conflicts likely means Battlefield Iran. But Iran won’t be the pushover the way Iraq was with its low-tech static defense. Richard Clarke, counterterrorism advisor in the White House under three administrations, says that short of an all out nuclear strike the U.S. cannot win a war against Iran.

“After a long debate, the highest levels of the military could not forecast a way in which things would end favorably for the United States,” said Clarke, pointing out that the Pentagon’s planners have war-gamed an attack on Iran several times in the past 15 years, and simply can’t generate a non-nuclear scenario where the U.S. wins.

Unlike Iraq, Iran has much higher tech weaponry than Soviet Union throwaways like the 1960s designed T-72 tank. Also there are some 80 million people in Iran, the great majority of them religious zealots who would throw themselves in the face of a foreign invasion.

Iran is mountainous and vast; four times the size of Iraq. Furthermore, the Iranian army numbers 450,000 combat troops, only slightly smaller than the U.S. Army whose troops are scattered across the globe and must be on alert for other enemies.

According to Gwynne Dyer, a syndicated columnist and military historian, if the White House were to propose anything larger than minor military incursions along Iran’s south coast, senior American generals would resign in protest. “Without the option of a land war, the only lever the United States would have on Iranian policy is the threat of yet more bombs — but if they aren’t nuclear, then they aren’t very persuasive,” wrote Dyer in Straight.com.

Obama Hawks Set To Wade Into War
That’s not to say there aren’t some in America and even some in the Obama administration itself that are itching to go to strike Iran. Earlier this summer The Bipartisan Policy Center (BPC), a collection of neoconservatives, hawks and neoliberal interventionists, began calling on the President to make war preparations against Iran. Two prominent BPC members, former Senator Chuck Robb and retired General Charles Wald, concluded in a July op-ed in The Washington Post that, “current trends suggest that Iran could achieve nuclear weapons capability before the end of this year.”

To meet this threat Robb and Wald advocate that the Obama administration begin an immediate military buildup for war. They suggest a plan that will include a “targeted strike on Tehran’s nuclear and supporting military facilities.”

The BPC has supporters within the Obama administration including Dennis Ross, currently Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for the Central Region of the National Security Council and who was one of the “original task force members” of the BPC’s bomb-Iran planning group. Ross and other neoconservatives in the Obama administration are itching to bomb Iran for military and strategic reasons. But I suspect there are others in the administration that want war for purely political reasons.

First and foremost is the President’s loss of support going into the fall Congressional elections, including musings that the President may not have been born a U.S. citizen and may in fact be a Muslim. Just as LBJ believed waging war on Vietnam would stem Republican criticisms that he was a dove, so too, Obama might think that waging war against Iran will answer any questions about his leadership and loyalties.

There are also strategic arguments to going to war with Iran. Iran is the defacto leader of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, having wrestled control from Saudi Arabia more than a decade ago. It carries the biggest stick on a patch of ground that contains two-thirds of the world’s conventional petroleum reserves. Iran’s control of the world’s oil supplies gives American strategic planners nightmares.

Countdown To War
Desperate times mean desperate measures. But make no mistake; this war could be much more devastating to the U.S. and the world than any war since World War II. There is the real potential that an isolated conflict will spread and perhaps engulf China and Russia.

Each passing week, as Obama slips in the polls and Tehran rattles its sabers, the prospects for war grow; a war that will no doubt drive up oil and gold prices. But also a war whose final outcome may be so devastating that few will enjoy the profits they reap.

Yours for real wealth and good health,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy and Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • s c

    Does this prez expect a medal for going to Texas? Isn’t he the same guy who’s trying to brown-nose the nation while trying to compensate for sagging poll numbers? He can always give himself a medal for ‘courageous restraint’ in crowing about his many other “leadership skills.”
    If combat veterans were allowed to be open and honest about this Pretender-in-Chief, they would have raised many middle digit salutes when he went to Texas. I wonder if he remembered to ask them if they expected to get medical treatment after they leave the military (they did ‘volunteer,’ after all, and Uncle Scam is looking for ways to save some bucks). Ye gods, what a pretender.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Do you remember what happened when General McCrystal told the reported that Obama hadnt talked with him for 6 weeks? He was immediately removed, because according to Obama and his band of losers, how dare he tell the truth about them. In the years to come, I guarantee you that horror stories about the way this guy and his admin carried on business will come out from those in the know, who wont talk until it is safe for them to do so, like when their pensions are earned and secure. It is obvious these left wing liberals in charge now have no idea of what they are doing. Can you imagine, your conducting a war, and the head of the country, who is supposed to be orchestrating a plan and strategy with his people, and he hasnt talked to the guy that is the head of command on the battlefield for 6 weeks. Oh my gosh man, are you kidding me? And he and his ilk call him a leader? No way. No stinking way. This guy is subverting all that we do, and is damning America at every turn, and it is time for him to be removed.

      • Bruce D.

        Good point. I also think Obama is not capable of making good choses in war or anything else. He can’t even make a good chose on where to try a terrorist in court. I also feel he does not want war. He believes in subterfuge. It just might be the only thing that will bring him into a war is if the U.S. is invaded and then it probably would depend on who was invading.

        • Bob from Socal

          He will go to war, because that’s what his New World Order puppet masters want him to do. The Bilderbergs already gave the greenlight this year on attacking Iran.

          • Greg Arnold

            Wouldn’t that be more like his Saudi masters? I’d wager that our POTUS has done more bowing and scraping to the King of Saudi Arabia than our mainstream media has the journalistic integrity to report.

          • spike

            Doubt it…he’s too much of a pussy and a pretender. He wants to be the “good guy” who plays nicely with others. He would not be very popular if he actually played hardball with the crackpots in Iran and Korea, or Nvietnam…He uses different “strategy”…go around the world bowing and scraping, and apologizing for all the bad acts America has supposedly done. After all, Miche “has never been proud of America her whole adult life”…poor thing!!! I have been proud of my country in the good times, and the bad times, Miche, or I would have left, like you and the poser should do.

        • Beepster

          HUH!!! The U.S. has been “being invaded” for decades. Just not the “right” invasion force.

          There is only one way to fight Iran and win. That’s using neutron bombs. Kills everything, but about a year to 18 months can be reinhabited. NO infrastructure destroyed. You can’t fight a “clean” war with these people. Their idea is to either kill or subjugate enemies.

          • Lewis Munn

            That is not just a plan, it is a basic and major tenet of their religion.

            And I am not sure of the wisdom of a conventional “gentleman’s” war with a country whose basic war structure is religious, and those who die are not mourned but lionized!

            We in America do not worship a god whose goal is annihilation of the enemy by all means fair or foul, and suicide in killing the enemy is considered wonderful.

            Our people need to understand the workings of the religious war and the Jihad, before unleashing conventionally-trained troops with conventional weapons to fight these people who are fanatics. Like for example, we should dip all bullets in pig’s blood each morning, since their religion says defilement is worse than death. And they lose all the goodies if they are defiled, including Allah’s good will and protection.

            This has succeeded in the past, in the Phillipines! Current military folks need to read of past wars and what led to victory or defeat. Islaam has not changed, and can be defeated in the same manner as in the past. Unconventional strategy.

        • Peter

          I “Obama Bin Pres” had been in office in 2001, Al Queda would still be holding Manhattan from Central Park south to Ground Zero!

          • spike

            Amen, brothers!!! Black Jack Pershing had the right idea!! Pig’s blood!! and in France, when they’re all praying in the streets, realease a herd of pigs on em.

      • George

        Sounds to me that you are just another right wing nut case.You have nothing to back up your remarks.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Are you kidding me? What, do you live in a cave. Gen. McCrystal was there on live TV, and they asked him when was the last time the President talked to him, and he calmly stated ” about 6 weeks ago”. The reporter obviously couldnt believe what he heard, because he then said “The President hasnt talked to the guy running this war for 6 weeks?”. To which the good General said, “that is affirmative”. That is why Obama removed him, because the guy told the truth in an interview. Fact, and you and your liberal buddies cannot change the truth. I heard it out of his mouth myself, as did millions of other Americans, so you can act like it didnt happen, but in reality my friend, it did. It really did, and you need to get in touch with reality. This guy, Obama, and all his left wing liberal pacifist appeasing mates, have not got a clue on how to conduct affairs for the betterment of the United States of America. They are too busy appeaseing our enemy, who laughs in our face, as they have all made it clear that they want us dead, and that they will not quit until we are dead or they are. Now you can stick your head in the sand, and act like everything is ok. Or you can be arrogant like Obama and think your mere words can change their minds. But facts are facts. They are indoctrinated as children to hate and kill anyone not like them, and I assure you pal, I, along with millions of other Americans, are nothing like them, and we dont want to be like them. But they arent going away, unless we put them away. Do you not understand that? If not, I suggest you take some reality studies on just who these guys are, then maybe you will understand.

          • Lubo

            Well put and the facts!

          • Howie

            Very well put Beberoni. I agreewith you whole heartedly.
            Those people are going to have to be annillated. It’s either them or us. Israel is not the only country they want to be blown off the face of the earth.
            The Nutron bomb should do very well. The sooner the better.

          • rose tripp

            well said!

          • Dogma-Free

            Hahaha…you people, and your fear-mongering. You live your whole lives in fear, and try to bring others down with you. Then again, maybe your fears will soon be justified…I mean, really, if the US attacks, or allows Israel to attack Iran (currently about the only country in the Middle East without nukes), it will set off a firestorm of hatred towards America (and Israel), that will most likely draw some sort of retaliation. Attacking Iran would just be sheer stupidity. Not only that, but America is in such dire straits economically, that I doubt the country can afford to attack anyone…even though I’m sure China would love to *lend* America even more money. Of course, since China has a larger military than America does, and clearly more money, it will be an ugly day when China demands that America pay back its debt.

            Oh well…I guess we should all probably start learning Chinese now…assuming America doesn’t become the only 3rd world country on the North American continent. What a shame that will be…and all because of America’s constant meddling into world affairs for too long.
            Perhaps people should have listened to Ron Paul (including his own party, as well as FAUX “news”), instead of trying to play him off in the media as that crazy old man from Texas…

        • Beepster

          LOLOL AND, what are you, a Left wing nut???

      • THOMAS STEWART

        Right-On Beberoni Iran Calls Pres Obama “The Paperless Tiger” When He Told General MacCrystal Quote If Any “Civilians” Appear Where We Meet The Enemy “Taliban”, Your (Our) Troops Are To Break Contact And Retreat, Yikees, All USA Troops Should Have Returned With General MacCrystal, With Our Commander In Chief Giving Such Orders, Yikees The Enemy Is Dressed In There Nite Clothes 24 Hours Aday, Who Is The Enemy?? The Manchurian Paperless Pres Obama Has Spoken With Rubber Bullets, Yikess, And General MacCrystal Says I Am Out Of Here. God Bless Our US Troops And General MacCrystal.

    • 45caliber

      If you check, the Democrats have always used war as a way to distract the population from a bad economy. They even use it to try to restart a bad economy by ordering tons of weapons that must be produced.

      In fact, a college professor in economics stated in our class that war was the very best export business for a country. They exported all their goods which were immediately used so more were needed. And those fighting the war didn’t have much option but to buy.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I know for a fact that Lyndon Johnson and his cronies made billions off of the Vietnam war. That is a historical fact. He gave contract after contract to his buddies. They all cashed in.

      • http://na. Robert Bradfield

        I am a South African and have had experience of both a low and high intensity war. Anyone that thinks that war is a game needs to reconsider their views. From an economic point of view I can categorically state that it will bring most economies out of a recession because of the investment in the manufacturing of war materiel. If a country has a large unemployment rate it will solve that problem to as the casualty list helps to remove surplus people. From a psychological point of view it is a disaster the burden remain for decades, people were never made for war. There is, however, times that one needs to go to war and that is when a country’s freedoms are threatened whether from an outside or interior source.

        Is President Obama a threat to your country’s continued existence, I can not see that viewing it from another country. He might not be the wisest person and may be lead incorrectly by his advisers but that does not make him a danger, it might make him “stupid” that can be rectified with your next Presidential election. About Iran, there the whole world is threatened, but so are North Korea, Pakistan and India also threats. Do you think that they should also be attacked and wiped out?

        Credible threats are exactly that, not a boast of remote planes, or an expectation of weapons of mass destruction, remember the build up to the Iraq war. It requires proof before you allow your troops into a situation where their lives, and possibly your own can be lost. Before jumping to conclusions let’s wait to see whether there are proven threats to world peace. Remember we all share this planet, Africa, Europe, the Near and Far East and South America so getting involved in a war has consequences for all of us.

        • 45caliber

          Robert:
          You are quite right. I didn’t say I agreed with it – but many politicians do, unfortunately. I fought in Vietnam for two years and I know EXACTLY what you are talking about!

        • 45caliber

          As for Oblama, many here do believe that he is destroying our country.

          We are fortunate in our Founding Fathers and the Constitution they wrote. But all of our rights as listed in the Constitution are under attack by both parties here. Under Oblama they are in jeapardy. For instance, instead of the right of free speech and freedom of the press, we have politicial correctness. If you say or write something that those in power do not agree with you can get sued for making the statements. Many in the Democrats (the liberal party here) insist that disagreeing with Oblama is wrong and should not be allowed. I consider that both an attack on my freedom of speech and the mark of a tyrant.

          We consider our right to own and bear arms important because it gives us the ability to defend ourselves in our homes from attack and because it gives us the ability to change our government (which we have never done) if required. The politicians are continually attacking that right a little at a time.

          There are many other such things – and all seem to be coming to a head right now. Further, we are TRILLIONS of dollars in debt – some from before Oblama but much of it since. We want a government that will reduce spending, particularly for things that aren’t absolutely necessary; the politicians act as if the stores will all close tomorrow and so must spend as much as they can now.

          You can see part of the reason we consider this a trying time and Oblama a factor in it.

          • http://na. Robert Bradfield

            you are correct when you said that part of the trillion $ debt was brought about before president Obama. There is, however, some explaining to do about his term as president. It has not been, since the 1930′s, necessary for any government to bail out the banking sector because of their greed, the motor industry which have not adapted to the new world realities and greedy heads of companies with large amounts of tax payer money. As a world leader the economic problems of the US affected even the subsistence farmers in developing countries in Africa, Asia and South America. From an economic point of view, if your president had not spent the large amounts of money as you said, the world would now have been fighting an economic depression worse than the one in the 1930′s. Come to think of it the crisis in the US also required Germany, the UK and most of the EU countries to spend vast sums of money to bail out their and the PIGS countries. That should not have been necessary had the crisis not started in the US. I do not at present feel that blaming your President is really fair, blame the people that caused the crisis for their greed/short sightedness or whatever you want to call it. If I do not understand it correctly then please excuse my ignorance.

        • Bruce D.

          It is more than Obama just being stupid Robert. He is trying to undermine the sovereignity of the individual through federal regulation. He has also ceded parts of Arizona to Mexican drug cartels. He is now trying to use the UN against the American people and the State of AZ in favor of those Mexican drug cartels. He has underminded our constitution through illegal use of the commerse clause. Out of this chaos that he brings he hopes to replace the chaos with new regulation subjugating American freedon.

          • http://na. Robert Bradfield

            Bruce, as a outsider, I am very impressed with the American democracy. If Obama is not doing what he supposed to do, you can remove him by voting for someone else in about another two years. Your court system is above reproach if you feel that he is handing certain states to criminals then you can take him to court. As I understand it the Federal Government of AZ has a big say in what can or can not be done in their state, I would expect that the Governor and the state legislature should stop any hand over to the Mexicans and criminals. I have never been under the impression that it is only the president that can make those decisions. If I am wrong I sincerely apologize for my ignorance.

        • Howie

          Robert, if you stop and look at the situation there dosen’t need to be a war with Iran. Remember what Japan did when the bomb was dropped on them.
          I say use the bomb on Iran as well. That will stop them in thier tracks. Problem solved!!!

          • http://na. Robert Bradfield

            Howie, I am aware of the consequences of dropping a bomb. If you drop a bomb, then let us say North Korea drops a bomb on the USA, if it is possible which I do not know, and Pakistan and India decides to solve their conflicts by bombing each other all of sudden everyone is bombing everyone else and what we have is total annihilation. As I said, and my experience is that war is over rated to solve problems. The situation in 1945 and today is totally different, in 1945 only America had the “Bomb” but today about everyone has one or more. If I had a choice in the matter, which I obviously do not, I would try and convince whoever not to think along the lines of using the “Bomb” anywhere. I would rather be scared than dead.

          • Marie Mandel

            Wow! and people thought the “shoebomber was crazy..

        • Marie Mandel

          Robert, everything you wrote is pure common sense. And you know too that President Obama is not
          a danger to this country nor is he stupid. What you read here in this tread, for the most part stems from ignorance. I am amazed that so many people can’t think for themselves, and are so easily influenced by political garbage.

          • http://LibertyAlert CSchutz

            OMG!! Another Osama Bama lover!! Go away!

          • John Woodbury

            Marie, while I do not want to see a war any where, what the article said is that President Obama does. I do not think he does, I think he will be the cause of one though. Rightly or wrongly, he is viewed by most of the world, and our many enemies, as week. This emboldens crazy two-bit dictators to do things they would not dare if there was a leader that was seen as strong. We should not have gone to war with Iraq, easy to say now, but at the time there were compelling reasons to go to war; one of which was the fear Sadam had or was on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon. I feel, that and one of these people will do something so stupid that even President Obama can not apologize it way and he will respond with a war. John what a great article, while I do not necessarily agree with all you wrote I feel you have gist of it. The lame stream media is still protecting the O. Two more months, will we make it and what will the result of the election be?

          • spike

            Yes, you are right, ma’m he IS NOT STUPID. He is a well orchestrated, well thought out, socialist who has been studying his craft for years.
            You are correct. He has the whole spending thing really well in hand, he can spend like a champ. The only things he can’t do, are lead, and listen to what the country wants. That’s all, nothing big, like I said.

        • janet marsh

          Robert, you are right! The thing that everyone does not know or ignores to their peril is that this
          Ahmidiajad cannot do anything, he has no power. The only ones that could start the wars or
          give sanction to one is the Koehmeni [sp].

          Iran has never invaded another country. Iraq was the aggressor in the Iraqi and Iran war.

          People just do not pay attention to History nor know it. Ahmidiajad [sp] never said that he wanted
          to destroy Israel. That speech was mistranslated and I could forward it to anyone that needs to
          know it. kennybent

          The US will reap the whirlwind if we bomb Iran or help Israel do it. Do you realize how many
          Muslims are in this country? Are we ready for another Terrorist attack like NYC? I do not
          relish it and NY is not the only part of the country that will suffer. Lord have Mercy on us.

          • spike

            Really? Mistranslated? Are you an authority in His language? Because I have seen numerous reports where he has threatened to blow Isreal off the map…If the guy really does Like us, that’s a different story.
            Wonder why all those American flags are burning in his country, and if he had no power, how did he get re”elected” because I heard his country was going to oust him, but with a bunch of violence, he kept power. Am I wrong?

      • Marie Mandel

        So, who started the Iraq war?

    • Marie Mandel

      You must be talking about Bush, you are confused…he is no longer in charge

      • spike

        Um, pardon me…but I think it was that Iraq was invading Kuwait, so we went in there…didn’t finish the job by either killing or imprisoning Saddam, then the Clinton administration just played along with the shell game on the Wmd thing, then 9/ll happened, then Bush tried to rectify for daddy…Uh, I’m pretty sure that that’s what I saw on T.V. for the past l0 or so years…

  • Doc Sarvis

    What dumber reason to go to war than to prove that the President is not what he is NOT (a Muslim). And to secure America’s future energy needs is to establish new energy technologies.

    • Norris

      To avenge his daddy?

      • Dave

        Nice one. Remember, nobody intelligent is saying the Obama is going to go to war to proce he’s not a Muslim. The author of this article is just implying it. Who does he need to prove it o anyway. His religion is his personal business. Who cares if he was a Muslim? What does that have to do with anything? You right wingers will beleive anything.

        • http://www.owensinsurance.net Tim Owens

          Because if he is Muslim he is a Liar! Thats why it matters fool.

          • jim

            You are Right On, these OBAMABOT IDIOTS like dave could care less if he LIES!! Ole barry the Socialist,Kenyan,Muslim,Illegal pres spews his LIES daily and OBAMABOT Morons like dave swallow ALL of it!! LOL!!

          • Sam

            But he said he was not a Muslim!!!

          • Beepster

            Sam, If I say I’m God, does that make it true. I seriously doubt it. The State Dept has already admitted he’s a dual citizen. Catch up on the facts that are available.

        • ValDM

          Dave,
          I certainly matters if he is Muslim, because of the whole “convert them or kill them” doctrine of Islam. Feel like losing your head anytime soon? Or will you just cave in and say “When in Rome”?

          • Average Joe

            In support of your comment and for those who don’t understand, I present this article: The Terrifying Brillience of Islam. Please take the time to read this article as it is extremely enlightening.

            http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html

          • Lewis Munn

            Most of the npeople on here have never read the Qu’ran. I had occasion to read much of it and the Muslim marching orders are indeed to “Kill or convert, and enslavement is permitted, but slaves have virtually no rights”.

            Absolutely, almost hysterically, opposed to any form of Christianity. And for them to die killing enemies is the best thing that can happen, so they do not care for their own lives and make what we think of as irrational decisions to kill more of the enemy.

            Something that people who have no religious committment cannot understand, and those with few morals wish to.

            Read THEIR book, and then show me where I am wrong??

        • ruth

          being muslim has a lot to do with him being president. the way michelle and obama talk about this country only proves how much they hate this country. i’d like to know who is behind the obamas, or is he really on his own to destroy us and isreal.

          • Beepster

            George Soros is pulling his strings due to the amount of “Support” (financially) he’s given to Soetoro. Incidentally, he never changed his name (legally) from Barry Soetoro.

          • Claire

            What about the Koch brothers? Who do they support and finance?

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            George Soros

        • Howie

          No, Obama is not a muslim. He is a radical muslim in sheeps clothing. That’s what he is. He has proven that in every way in everything he has done. We the people are not that blind.

        • Marie Mandel

          Dave, frankly I am puzzled, why are right wingers so naive, and I am being polite with the adjective “naive”

        • http://LibertyAlert CSchutz

          Because there’s no such thing as “used to be a Muslim” and if he is he has no legal right to be the President!

        • Palidan

          You all have hate in your hearts. The Iraq War your country started codenamed “Shock and Awe” was all about OIL…about GREED. Bush and his oil allies have already planned and subdivided Iraqi land into zones as to who will get what part of the country for his oil drilling activity. And the American taxpayer was paying for it under the cover of war…and the people did not know it. So many civilians were killed in that indiscriminate bombming, and now your country is being attack by religious zealots from all sides that you do not where it will come.
          Read Alan Greenspan’s memoirs “The Age of Turbulence”.

      • spike

        I don’t believe he’s a Muslim. I believe he is the most arrogant, conniving weasel with a really big head, I might add… but, I don’t think he’s a Muslim…but I do think he does not believe in GOD.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Yes, he is a muslim. And he wont take the action to them, because he is a pacifist appeaser just like Clinton. He will let them punch us in the nose again and again, and it will take the next president to have a pair and step up and defend us. Why do you think these whack jobs keep blowing stuff up? Because they have seen the pattern that they can keep doing it and we wont do anything, until Mr. Bush had the guts to go after them. But now we have gotten way off course because it is in the interests of the democrats to make it all go bad, so that they can continue to point the finger and place blame elsewhere. That is how they are and who they are, and the facts speak for themselves. They are hell bent on bringing the whole thing crashing down, all because they know they have no plan, and dont know what they are doing, so in lieu of this, you screw the whole thing up, get totally off course like they have, then blame the other guys to make yourselves look good. Unfortunately, that is all they have pal. That is all they have ever had. Place blame and pointing fingers, like a spoiled little rich kid. That is who these guys are, and you better wake up and see it before they run us into a hole we cant get out of.

      • Kinetic1

        You make it sound as if the war was going great, right up until Obama took office. First of, let’s remember that Bush had everyone, Republican and Democrat behind him going into Afghanistan to get Bin Laden (who he apparently let go.) Then he decided we needed to go after Iraq as well. Oh, don’t worry, it won’t take more than 6 weeks and the Iraqi oil wells will pay for the war. We have to do it, because Iraq is training Al Qaeda! Oh, your not buying that lie, how about if I told you he was working on getting nuclear fuel? Look, mobile weapons labs!

        The Bush administration screwed up this war from day one. Bush talked a good line, but when push came to shove he didn’t support his generals. And let’s not forget, Bush was firing generals long before Obama took office.

        Bush came into office looking for a reason to attack Iraq, this is well documented. He never had a good reason (well, he had several, one after another if you believed his lies) or a good plan of action. Despite this, Rumsfeld went forward with promises of our being seen as heroes, and without an exit plan. At every turn, Bush just kept chanting “stay the course, stay the course” despite the advise of his Generals. And if his Generals spoke to loudly, he replaced them. If anyone showed signs of trying to prolong these wars for personal gain, it’s Bush and Cheaney. So what exactly did you expect Obama to do? Did you expect him to just pull a Reagan and pay off the terrorists?

        • 45caliber

          You know, somehow my memories of this (without being told what I was to know by someone else) don’t exactly follow your line of reasoning here.

          • Kinetic1

            Maybe I didn’t take the time to insure that the order of events was spot on, but the truth holds.

            Feb 3rd, 2003
            Powell presents photos of “mobile weapons labs.” Later he claims this was a CIA error.

            USA Today, April 2003
            “Feb. 7, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, to U.S. troops in Aviano, Italy: “It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months.” “The oil revenue of that country could bring between 50 and 100 billion dollars over the course of the next two or three years. We’re dealing with a country that could really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.”

            “March 16, Vice President Cheney, on NBC’s Meet the Press: “I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq, from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. . . . I think it will go relatively quickly,”

            March 14, 2003 Christian Science Monitor
            “In his prime-time press conference last week, which focused almost solely on Iraq, President Bush mentioned Sept. 11 eight times. He referred to Saddam Hussein many more times than that, often in the same breath with Sept. 11.”

            Weekly Standard, Sep 1-8 2003
            “For months before the war in Iraq, the Bush administration claimed to know of ties between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein’s Iraq.”

            ABC This Week, 3/30/03
            We know where [the weapons of mass destruction] are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.” Rumsfeld

            CBS News, July 8, 2003 President Bush was incorrect when he said in his State of the Union address that Iraq recently had sought significant quantities of uranium in Africa.

            Jan 5, 2007
            “In what appears to be a military shakeup surrounding Iraq, President Bush has replaced both the top US general in the Middle East and the top general in Iraq, ABC NEWS is reporting on air.”

            I could go on, but it’s so easy to find numerous sources that show how the Bush administrations reasons for war were fraudulent. And now the right wants us to Thank Bush and give him “Credit for liberating Iraq”?

          • Marie Mandel

            You must have been like “Sleepy Beauty” all that time, and probably still sleeping in la-la land.

        • George

          I agree with some of what you are saying,however I look back to the days prio to world war two.Todays situation with Iran appears to be about the same.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I think you to be a bit confused here, and Im going to follow some biblical advise, that says “do not argue with a fool, lest you become one yourself”. But most of your statement is in error, but only 95 percent of it.

      • Mark Are

        You’re whacked.

      • ruth

        better, before it’s way too late!

      • Howie

        DITTO !!!!

      • Marie Mandel

        Beberoni, Muslims believe in God, so what’s your beef

        • spike

          No, Marie, they believe in ALLAH,—BIG, HUGE, DIFFERENCE. For one thing, Allah does not love his creation enough to send a redeemer to them, so that they can reconcile with him. Secondly, Allah is not the God who says, and I quote “this I leave with you, the MOST IMPORTANT COMMANDMENT IS: LOVE.” Allah’s main agenda is that the whole world, according to the Muslim faith, be MUSLIM. If not, kill them. Jesus said, “if the people in the town where you go don’t believe your words, or want to accept it, knock the dust off your sandals and continue on..” He doesn’t force anyone ANYONE to believe him. He doesn’t tell Christians to tie bombs to themselves to be martyrd. Sorry. Muslims believe in ALLAH–NOT GOD>

    • DaveH

      Doc,
      I don’t think that would prove Obama is not a Muslim. Muslims have been fighting each other as long as I can remember. They will fight with whoever is available at the time.

      • Sam

        They fight only those who fight them, what else do you want them to do when they are attacked?!!!!!!!!!

        • Lubo

          LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! How foolish can one be?

        • DaveH

          Can you find me a conflict in the last 40 years that they haven’t been involved in? I guess people attack them a lot.

        • spike

          Sorry, Sam, The muslims are a fighting people. Bosnia, I can say for a fact. It’s biblical, if you bother to read the prophetic words. It all started with Abraham’s unwillingness to wait on God and do things himself, then he had to send Hagar away with Ishmael, and there would be strife between the brothers to this day.Sorry, you’re wrong on this one.

    • http://eddie47d eddie47d

      The righties want war with Iran and will say and do anything to box Obama in a corner. In other words to force his hand by egging on the American people to either support a war or to make Obama look foolish for going to war. A win win for conservatives to bring Obama down.

      • Mark Are

        Get is straight…THE PSYCHOPATHS want war with Iran, or whoever else they can pick on, steal from and kill. That is what PSYCHOPATHS do. Since Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan populations have never done ANYTHING to us, maybe we should just come home and get the hell out of those countries.
        So am I screwed up in my thinking? Or am I NORMAL and the rest of you that want to kill, rob, maim, steal, plunder, and rape are a bunch of PSYCHOPATHIC NUTCASES. God help us.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Gee, let me get this straight. Training all those terrorists over there, with a strict goal of coming over here and blowing things up, has done nothing to us? Are you kidding me. Come on man, you know better than that. Gimme a break.

          • Palidan

            The best your country should do is: DO NOT MEDDLE ANYMORE IN WORLD AFFAIRS! CLOSET YOUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING ALL YOUR TROOPS HOME to guard you coast and airspace from attacks. In this manner you wont be attacking countries like Iran/Korea who are little fagots flexing muscles. Your mighty military will then be protecting your country from attacks.
            Remember you country is now overtaken as a world power and your are indebted to China. China and Russia have business tie-ups with Iran and I don’t think they would just sit and watch their investment go down the drain.
            Do not use your military power as an excuse in attacking another country cause you will likely fail…just like Iraq and Afghanistan who have religious fanatics to continue their fight. Even if you kill all people in Iran with a Neutron Bomb, are there no Iranians in other parts of the world who will fight you?

      • BikerHoop

        Odumbo doesn’t need ANY help making himself look the fool!

      • Lubo

        eddie46d….your comments are the typiccal liberal set-up for :

        ” It’s not by fault, Bush made me do it, Bush mean, Bush bad!!” Them mean ole war mongering neo-con “Right-Wingers made us do it!”

        • eddie47d

          I never mentioned Bush but glad you brought him up. Bush was the founding father of the Iraq War and the majority of deaths will be on his shoulders. So you’re right, let’s put the blame where it belongs.

          • Lubo

            LOL!!!!! You never cease to amaze me.

          • JeffH

            …”the majority of deaths will be on his(Bush)shoulders”…Like Lubo said, fast eddie ceases to amaze…anyone…

      • Oh Please…

        Paranoid much? LOL….

      • Marie Mandel

        eddie47d you certainly sound like a righty yourself.

      • Bren Richardson

        Obama does not need any help bringing himself down, he will do it all on his own merit.

      • spike

        Bull. What does any country need nukes for if they aren’t planning a war, and who is threatening Iran? Are we? Cause I haven’t seen any Iranian flags burning…Although…maybe I could find one…maybe walmart has one…

    • Lubo

      Doc…..How can you be so sure Obama is not a muslim since he believes in “Collective Salvation”? That ideology in itself confirms in my mind that he is not a Christian but I am really not to sure what he is? However, his background and upbringing would indicate to me, as well as, being a member of Rev. wright’s church, based upon black liberation theology, that he is definitely not a Christian.

      • Bob

        Just because someone attends services does not mean they are religious. If Obama said he was an Atheist do you think he would still be sitting in the WH.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I have to agree with your statement Bob. Being a Christian, I do attend my church every Sunday, not because I need to , because I want to. That is my day to go Worship God and thank Him for all He has done for me in my life. However, through my younger years, and even today, the church, which is the body of believers of Christ, which meet in many buildings we call churches, have been, and continue to be full of hippocrites. Many are there just like the old Pharisee’s in the Bible, to be seen. Many go, because they think going to church on Sunday is what good people do and they think themselves to be saved just because they sit in that pew on Sunday. Its a shame, but it is a true statement. Many underestimate the power of satan, who puts hippocrites all over in churches, and even in some pupits (Rev. Wright), as a means to keep people from wanting to come to church and finding out who Jesus Christ really is. Sad but true, I have to agree with your statement.

        • Lubo

          Bob….What???? What does atheism have to do with my comments? How do you relate my comments about “Collective Salavation” and Rev wright’s marxist teachings to atheism?

          • Kinetic1

            I believe what Bob was saying is that, despite the fact that our Constitution prohibits the use of religious tests in choosing our President, many of the Christians in America have simply decided that our President MUST be Christian as well. With that in mind, every serious candidate proclaims his faith at one time or another to avoid the attack that would likely stop them in their tracks. Once in, attention usually fades and as long as he/she attends church on the major holidays nothing much is said.

            This is nothing new. 200 years ago everyone was expected to attend service on Sunday, most of all our leaders. Men who held no strong faith in the church would, non the less serve as leaders in the church as well. Take Washington for instance: as our President he attended service on a regular basis, but was known to abstain from receiving the sacrament. When his pastor spoke to the matter one Sunday, Washington saw that he was a poor example to the congregation and decided to do what was right for all. From that day forward he simply did not attend church on sacrament Sunday. Still, he was on heck of a president, don’t you think?

          • Lubo

            Kinetic1…..Hard to argue with that. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with me.

          • Bob

            Lubo that was my opinion not an answer to your statement.

      • spike

        The term you mentioned is not Muslim, as far as I have ever been aware.
        It’s some kind of Secular Humanism religious term, I believe.

  • Michael J.

    A narcissist such as Obama, full of love for only himself will go to any lenghts to favor his own personel agenda, of this I am sure. However, going to war with Iran would require months if not years of bowing and pleading with the United Nations in order to do so and there is not enough time between now and November to acomplish this so don’t look for it to happen.

    As far as his heritage goes (Muslamic), His father was muslim, so why wouldn’t his father’s son be Muslim as well? Was Stalin’s son not a communist?

    • Doc Sarvis

      Michael J.
      The “reasoning” in your second paragraph is breathtaking – in a bad way. Religon is NOT genetic so his father’s religous “genes” don’t have any influence. And as far as his father’s influence; if you have read anything about President Obama’s life you would know that he hardly knew his father, spent Very little time with his father, and barely remembers him.

      • Wilbert

        Communism isn’t a religion.

        Muslim is Islam and it is the planets second largest religion and growing.

        People in a free society have freedom to choose their beliefs.

        There used to be a First Amendment that protected that freedom.

        Obama can practice whatever belief he wishes.

        • Conservative at Birth

          Islam is a Cult not a Religion, as is Communism. They are tools used by Totalitarians to control the masses. Judiasm and Christianity are the only true Religions that allow freedom of the individual. Yes, they both have been used by Totalitarian, yet they still allow free choice of belief. Islam and Communism do not allow the same freedoms.

          • DaveH

            Good Comment, Conservative.

          • http://none John Detwiler

            You are right Conservative is a cult and a perverted one st that. Imagine a group calling itself a religiion that mutilates women, stones accused persons that are accused without proof, cuts off someone heads and advocates the torture or death to those who disagree with them or their prophet who was a common bigot who hated Jews (Sound familior) and was able to coerce others to his perverted way of thinking.

          • Sam

            What is the definition of religion? Islam is a great religion,(1,500 million its followers) but your ignorance has made you blind. Open your eyes and remember that ther are many american muslims, so respect them, otherwise, you’ll loose their respect for sure!

          • Hflashman

            Well Mr. High IQ. You haven’t looked up the definition of “cult” since the definition would include any religion.

          • Lubo

            Conservative….. Excellent observation and VERY factual.

          • Kinetic1

            Conservative,
            The only “true” religions? Why do you feel that you have the right to decide what religions are “true” and which are “false”? Bahais believe in the truth of the Christian religion as well as others. They do not have, nor have they ever had barbaric rules of conduct and punishment (something Christians can’t say.) How about Buddhists and Hindus? Just more cults for you to damn? Were those of our nation’s founders who were Deists also cult members? Christians have a long and blood stained history of violent acts performed in the name of their God. It never fails to amaze how a group who say they are so devoted to the teachings of Christ can be so dismissive and intolerant.

        • Lubo

          Sure thing and be honest about what that belief really is.

          • spike

            Jesus died to give us a RELATIONSHIP with God, not a religion. I am not a cult member, but I DO FOLLOW CHRIST. Don’t use big words you don’t understand.

      • tg7357

        Thats what HE tells us: who can prove otherwise? His mother is dead, his grandmother is dead, and he’s lied to us in the past. Why should we believe him about his father, his religion or his citizenship?

        • Joe

          Christians aren’t as good as you think.

          • tg7357

            Christians don’t have clean hands either. All religions are subject to corruption, and I’d be the last person to say they aren’t. There is an old saying ‘ If they can get into your head they can get into your pocket’. Unfortunately, most organized religions in this day and age are for the almighty dollar and not so much for the individual soul.
            But you KNEW that, didn’t you.

          • http://PLD TomD

            neither are atheists

          • sunrise

            you people that talk about Christians, don’t know much about Christians. Then there are plenty of people who call themselves Christians, and don’t act like one at all. The bottom line is that a Christian is instructed to love their enemies and pray for them. A muslim is instructed to lie and decieved their enemies and kill them. That’s the bottome line.

          • 45caliber

            Joe:

            “Christians aren’t as good as you think.”

            That is odd – because as a Christian I’ve never run into other Christians who murder, rape, and torture for fun. I’ve never heard of any who do it for the religion since the Crusades ended. Yet you speak as if you know a lot who do now.

          • Doc Sarvis

            45caliber, just look at the Catholic clergy for child rape (among others).

          • Lubo

            Doc……You neatly package and judge all Christians based upon one person, or a few peoples bad behavior. Those folks you speak of are wolves dressed in Sheep’s clothing and religous leaders have no patent on this human condition. Our congress is full of them.

            I would think the term “Christain” would be an individual that believes in the saving grace of JESUS CHRIST. Some of which have strong convictions and strive to be like-minded with their creator. Others think they are and go to church every time the door opens and then sleep through the service. Many others attending those worship services are wolves(Predators), disguised as Christians.

          • Bob

            You are right Joe. The Catholic church has been infiltrated since Pius XII died. The influx of pedophile priests isn’t a coincidence. What better way to get young men without arousing suspicion. It was planned.

          • 45caliber

            Doc:
            I didn’t say that Christians and Christian leaders aren’t doing bad things. Some do. But NOT IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY – which is what I keep seeing here. The Muslim terrorists(Fundamentalists if you prefer) do their murder, rape, etc. in the name of their religion – even though I’m quite sure they want to do it and probably would if their religion didn’t permit it.

          • 45caliber

            Doc:
            I didn’t say that Christians and Christian leaders aren’t doing bad things. Some do. But NOT IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY – which is what I keep seeing here. The Muslim terrorists(Fundamentalists if you prefer) do their murder, rape, etc. in the name of their religion – even though I’m quite sure they want to do it and probably would if their religion didn’t permit it. What you are doing (and others here) are trying to say ALL Christians are guilty. Yet you protest if somenoe says all Muslims are guilty of the acts a few there do. I prefer to not do that – and I will point that out to any that do.

          • spike

            That’s why Jesus had to die. To take the sins of the world and nail them to the cross with himself. Christians are just like anyone else, they just know where to go for forgiveness…the foot of the cross that their God nailed himself to for them. He gave it all for Us, to reconcile us to him…please don’t make Christians seem like they think they’re better. A true follower of Christ knows he’s not better—Just FORGIVEN. However, I must caution: Just because we are forgiven, when we ask for it, and turn away from it, doesn’t mean we’re better, perfect, or that we just have license to keep doing the bad behaviour again and again. Thanks for your time.

        • sunrise

          If it looks like a rose (or in this case a thorn) and smells like a rose and acts like a rose, call it by any other name, but it is still a rose. Muslim is less a religion and more political instruction, evil control over people, and the only reason people “think” obama is one is because of his own words and actions in his books and out of his mouth since.

          • Lubo

            subrise….. great observation and commentary.

        • http://eddie47d eddie47d

          Most of his “lies” come from you conservatives. Spread a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.

          • George

            Amen!

          • Lubo

            LOL!!!!!!!!!!

          • Oh Please…

            “Most of his “lies” come from you conservatives. Spread a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”……ROFLMAO! It’s just so comical to see a liberal (again) demonstrating the very issue he is speaking of! Good job, you seem to be a pro at it….hehe.

        • Kinetic1

          45
          Every religion will have it’s extremists. The KKK is Christian based. There have been several groups that bomb abortion clinics and individuals who kill doctors in the name of Christ. No one is saying that all Christians agree with or support these actions, but neither do all Muslims support the actions of Al Qaeda.

          • Lubo

            Kinetic1…You wanna bet? Better study the culture before you defend it.

          • Marie Mandel

            Kinetic1, I don’t think Lubo ever studied theMuslim religion

      • Ellen

        Doc Sarvis: spent Very little time with his father, and barely remembers him…….do you mean the way he “doesn’t know” Rod Blagojevich? There appears to be nothing truthful coming from Barry’s lips–ever.

        • LOS ANGELES

          Maybe that’s why there so purple.

      • Stevo

        But,was not his stepfather also a muslim,and Barry was raised and trained in a muslim school for boys?

        • Don

          He also attended a Catholic School. So, does that mean he is a Catholic?

        • http://eddie47d eddie47d

          Dave H. Another one of your manipulative videos that has been edited. Your so dishonest anymore.

          • DaveH

            Sure, Eddie, they altered the videos so that Obama’s lips move with the words. You are a Liberal zealot who will deny any evidence no matter how strong.

          • DaveH

            And, Eddie, show me one dishonest thing that I have said. I can find many lies that you have told.

          • Kinetic1

            Dave,
            There is no need to alter “the videos so that Obama’s lips move with the words.” Those are the Presidents words and no one is denying that, but throughout that entire video his words are taken out of context, sentences are cut short and the meaning behind the words is lost.

            Let’s look at his “McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith…” moment. The discussion was over whether or not the McCain campaign had claimed he was a Muslim. Obama was agreeing that McCain had never done so directly, but Stephanopoulos interrupted and “corrected” him in error. Obama meant to say Muslim, not Christian as Stephanopoulos assumed, because he was not speaking about his actual faith, but that faith that others had accused him of.

            As for the rest of this video, one of the President’s first jobs was to try and undo the years of damage that the Bush administration had caused between the US and the Muslim world. Yes, like any politician in his position he spoke glowingly about the good Islam has brought to this world. Can you deny the claims that Islam is responsible for many great achievements? And as for his ability to pronounce words that are not english, should every president butcher foreign languages? Obama did live in other countries and cultures in his youth, and as a result he is well spoken in their languages. This is a sign of education and experience, and since when is that a bad thing?

            Bottom line, this video is a hack job and proves nothing, a point brought home by the legal disclaimer that pronounces that the producer is not claiming that Obama is a Muslim.

          • eddie47d

            Dave H.;Never one to admit anything are you? An edited video or picture or anything else that has been compromised is an altered product. Not the whole story,deceit by cutting out important information and sometimes an outright lie. “Your” videos did all that and stooped to a new low. There are thousands of videos on U-Tube that are like that.You are way too gullible for falling for this deceit.

          • DaveH

            I’m gullible, Eddie? And you just blindly stick up for Obama because he’s a fellow Liberal? With Liars, a person must read between the lines. We have no other choice. And between the lines tells me that Obama would sell out our country in a heartbeat if he felt he would somehow profit.

        • Sam

          Are You saying that an american muslim, does not have the right to become the president of the United States?! If your answer is yes, then i suggest that you give up your american citisenship, bec you are not really a real american!

          • Lubo

            Sam….. The problem is, how could anyone of the muslim faith understand, respect, honor much less enforce our constitutional rights? How does sharia law fit within the context of our laws? Once we elect a muslim and then that person decides to convert to Christianity, then how do we protect that person from getting his head CUT OFF by the radical muslims?

            Just curious as to how all this works within our founding principles?

          • Michael J.

            Hey Sam,
            Who is minding the beer store today?

          • dan az

            lubo
            you cant really expect him to answer that! He would have to tell the truth, if he is a muslim then you know there cant be truth!

          • spike

            Sorry, but A muslim cannot make a contract (and keep it ) with an unbeliever. So, sorry, a Muslim would not make a good President.
            A muslim would also be bound to turn the country Muslim. Read the Book.

      • Bruce D.

        Doc, Obama has given credit to his father in his book as being a big influence in his life. Obama’s own admission.

        • 45caliber

          But liberals always insist that Oblama NEVER means what he says in things like that!!

        • LOS ANGELES

          Dont’t forget that he also stated that if he had to, he would side with the muslims. So what does that tell you.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Religion is genetic when your a muslim pal. If you walk away, they will kill you. The only way out is to flee the area, and live elsewhere. Other than that, they will kill you. It is forced on you. Have you never seen the footage where they sit them in the school rooms at a very, very young age, and teach them to hate Jews and Christians, and teach them that we are evil. Its in their genes.

        • Conservative at Birth

          That is enviromental not genetic.

          • 45caliber

            In the most part, yes it is. But they still do it, don’t they?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Thats true, but their genetic manipulate their thought pattern to where it just becomes a part of who they are, which is your genetics.

          • Lubo

            Conservative…… Not totally true, the environment in which we live alters genetics for adaptability. In other words, move to India and see what happens to your offspring over the course of a couple of generations. I have a sister-in-law that was adopted but she walks and talks just like her adopting mother. It’s call imprinting and over many generations is becomes part of the gene pool.

            I do think that genetically speaking, the muslim race has been breed to KILL. It is taught from a very young age to hate others who do not believe as they do.

            Not that this applies to you whatsoever but I find it interesting that these so called “Liberals” defend these muslims and their beliefs.

            You see comments from folks like “Sam” who state that these people don’t attack anyone unless they are attacked. That statement in itself reflects a very foolish understanding of what we are dealing with.

        • Sam

          Your schools and churches are teaching you too to hate muslims!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            If I hate them, then why do I pray that Jesus Christ will reveal Himself to them and bring them into the light and out of the darkness? However, I do believe, and it is a fact, that they have avowed over and over, that they want us dead, and that they will not stop trying to kill us, until they are dead. So what you gonna do? Roll over and wait for them to gain power until they do us all in? I think not. But I do think it would save an enormous amount of lives, both ours and theirs, if we dropped a nuke on Tehran and let them know we mean business. If we dont, the killing will just keep going on, and if you dont know it already, it is a fact that if they get nuclear weapons and the technology to deliver them, they would blow the United States up from one end to the other, along with Israel, and there is not one with any common sense that could refute that. So I would suggest wising up, and stopping this now, instead of waiting until they drop one in the middle of New York or Los Angeles or Chicago or somewhere. Is that what it is going to take for us to finally use our hand? I would in a second. Its like doing an oil change in a car. Its preventative maintenance. You can pay a little now, or blow the car up and pay a whole lot later. Its time for some preventative maintenance in Iran, and thats all there is to it. Its not going away. It just isnt.

          • Craig

            No, I am an atheist and I dislike mudslimes because they blow up people, send airplane missiles into buildings and kill innocent people.

          • Michael J.

            Sam,
            What I hate is the fact that people whose religion forbids them the use of alcohol, tobacco and drugs seem OK with owning or running every beer store in America. You know, where they sell beer, cigarettes and those little crack pipes hanging on a rack right next to the register to the lost souls of this country for profit while funneling the proceeds to known terrorists organizations such as Hamas for the purchase of AK47′s, RPG’s and what ever else they can get their hands on.

        • spike

          Islam is the total package. You are born into a muslim family, you profess the faith, live by the law, and if you convert your family has the right to kill you at the very least, shun and disown you. You are then a disgrace to the family. Try deciding one day you don’t want to be a Christian, a Buddhist, a Hindu….Do they Kill you?

      • Mitcher

        tell that to a jew,
        the fact remains that to allow Iran to go nuclear would be the end of safety in the middle east, and if oil sands there were to be irradiated so much for cheap middle east oil, we need that oil and that cannot be changed, middle east oil drives large country economies more than any other commodity, there is no way that leading nations can stand by and allow a psychotic nation of nuts to posses another nuclear source, there is already enough risk with N.Korea and Pakistan, sources for enriched uranuim don’t gaurd it well enough to allow me to sleep at night, whether or not Obummer is a muslum or not is not the question, what his intent in safe gaurding this world from radiation contamination is, I don’t know if the guy has his nuts in a vice from someone but I clearly think he is a few saltines shy of a party, that is why I voted for the commander in cheif that had militarty experiance, freinds don’t let freinds vote racial.. I get so tired of black people crowing on the efforts of the first black man president and I cannot say what I think of the whole mess or I will be a racist repug rightwing cracker. the guy is short of experiance and sociopathically incapable of asking for help, Biden is the biggest example of his shortcomings, that grinning idiot cannot assist his way out of a wet paper bag, what a hideous poor choice for vice pres,, good luck dems your 2012 come upance is already in the forecast, when the republican party regains control all the dark dealings will be brought to light for us to see and the dirty deals and party exclusive bull will be put on display. now if we can secure the border and bring manufacturing to the country, we will have jobs for those who want to work and hungry poverty to those who don’t. we need to make peoples choices matter and will see the education of our children become a industry that will replace Prisons and dept of corrections. but then again I digress..

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Biden, Pelosi and Hillary were the insurance policies Obama put in place to make sure no one took him out. Pretty good insurance policies Id have to say. About the only wise thing he has ever done.

          • Craig

            And he has Biden to make him look like a Rhoades scholar….lol

      • Another Doc

        I cannot believe your comments. ” he spent very little time with his father” .Of course the Muslim had harem of wives, and could not care less about some American that he got pregnant.
        Then why in his campaign days we listened day and and out about his Kenyan origins and his numerous relatives? B/c that was convinient at the time, right??? We had to get the entire black population of the US to believe that he is one of them.
        Then, he had the most extreme( step-father) Muslim bring him up in Indonesia- Meca of Islam. Attending Islam school.
        You definitely never lived among Muslims and have no idea what you are talking about. Islam is NOT a religion, but the worst dictatorship the world has ever known.
        Muslims placed him where he is. Do not take any of this easily…. They have been preaching of destroying American Satan for quite some time, and trust me (I know them well), if not stopped they will bring the Western Civilization to an end.

        • Sam

          You know them well? You are nothing but a liar, extrmist, racisit.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            After listening to Obama and Michelle, its pretty easy to see who is the racists and who isnt. My gosh man, if my pastor talked like that against black people the way his talks about white people, Id have left the first time I heard it, not waited until the media made it public and everybody knew. Are you kidding me? The proof is right there if you care to see it. Just open your eyes and look and listen. Holy cow.

          • Lubo

            HOw would you know? His commments make a whole lot more sense to me than yours.

          • Another Doc

            Sam, could your name be Samir?

        • Bob

          Doc You need a second opinion.

    • Mark Are

      That is a PSYCHOPATHIC narcissist.

      • TIME

        Mark, Yes indeed Barry Soetoro sure is both and even more.
        Thanks for pointing that out.

    • Marie Mandel

      Michael, what are you other than a bigot

  • Dave Gross

    Bush was the only president stupid enough to get involved in a deep mess in the Middle East. Until the day that we cut our military back and quit acting like imperial Japan did we will have hatred for our country. We do not need a presence and bases all over the world with our military.

    • wasadoc

      This country has been hated for years, anyway. We have fed the world and they spit in our face.

      • Only in America

        I believe that we have been admired for all these years.

        • Hflashman

          Admired and leader of the world in all aspects. Morality, economically, defender from oppression, and viewed as the symbol and icon of freedom and right.

          Until Bush brought it all down in the most amazing demonstration of graft, corruption, insanity, and incompetence we will ever see or experience.

          And then the wacked Right and TPers blame Obama and the Dems because that’s what they are told to think and say … jeesh

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Hflashman…
            Anyone with an ounce of sense can see what is happening in Washington right now is far worse than anything in the past. Your Bush bashing, along with calling conservatives names is child-like. But you do like to keep the conservatives stirred up, don’t you? Perhaps you would be better on a site that caters to you mind-set….

          • Poor Granny

            Bull. We went into Iraq because of the belief that he had “weapons of mass destruction.” We believed that because all our intelligence sources and those of other countries believed it as well. Why? Because, in Saddam’s own words, he “wanted Iran to believe he had them.” But if he told Iran he had weapons of mass destruction, Iran would not believe him. But, he thought “If the US or UK or Germany said he had them, then Iran will believe it.” So he told those in his hierarchy that he had them — which is why all the intelligence sources of differing nations had the same belief. The thing is, again in Saddam’s own words, he “underestimated President Bush.” You believe what you believe because the Obaminal media has blamed Bush again and again for everything. The mortgage fiasco began during the Clinton Administration when Barney Frank and Chris Dodd forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to give mortgages to those who could not afford them. The Bush Administration tried numerous times to prevent what has happened from happening, but the Dems in Congress kept saying “there is nothing wrong with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,” and met all attempts to prevent us from going down this path with contempt and ridicule. Get the TRUTH before you believe what other people have to say.

          • SteveB

            Just so much more leftist, liberal bulls#@*! ‘Finger-pointing and coming across like a bunch of immature jr. highschoolers. The left is NOT leading this country; they are running it into the ground at full speed!

          • DaveH

            Granny,
            Why haven’t we gone into Pakistan?

          • DaveH

            I agree, Steve, but the Right-Wingers haven’t helped a lot with their efforts to be the World’s Policemen. We won’t be the first nation that has collapsed due to trying to control too much.
            Both the Left with their Social Spending and the Right with their Military Spending are digging a very big hole for the United States.
            We need to get back to the wisdom of our Founders. Let people and countries be responsible for themselves.

          • http://eddie47d eddie47d

            Robin;Your Obama bashing is there for the world to see and your liberal name calling is unmistakable. Everyone on this site stirs the pot so who’s mind set is that?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Dude Bush is gone, ok? Get over it. But since you brought it up, all those things you said, well it seems to me, they describe Bill Clinton to the T. Yes they do.

          • FuLL10

            HEY Flash, open the other eye and look at things in stereo. They are all corrupt. It’s just a matter of which ones and to what (limited extent) the federally owned media want to “out”. Take a look at your girl Pelosi and her mate. See any corruption there?

          • Lubo

            ole flash… same ole cut and paste comments.

            “Bush mean, Bush bad, Bush made me do it!” “It’s them neo-con wacko conservatives” LOL!!!!

            Have you figured out yet that your fear mongering BUSH hating tatics are useless with educated people?

            You’ll get your answer soon enough….about november.

            BTW, Bush is longer president, in case you didn’t know.

      • sunrise

        being hated by people who hate freedom is hardly a thing we should be worried about. We are also loved by many people we as a country have helped in the world. America would be in much better shape if everyone who doesn’t love her, and can only bad mouth her, like our so called pres and some college brainwashed ignorants (now don’t go and get in a tizzy, ignorant doesn’t mean stupid, just ignorant of reality) would just leave and go live some place they do hold dear, where they don’t have the freedom to dog this country, and the Christian values it was founded on. Yes, some people that called themselves Christians in history have made some bad judgement calls too, so is that a good reason for any of us to keep making more? It’s sickening to see people that call themselves Americans badmouthing our country all the time. Why don’t you just leave if you don’t like it, instead of badmouth it on sites like this daily. Proud of my country, appalled by my government!

        • Fay

          Amen I agree with You if You don’t like it here in the United States of America please leave and find some where else to complain about. God Bless America and please lets take Her Back and keep Her Safe. do not like the Goverment either right now.

      • Dagney

        You always bite the hand that feeds you.

        • GentleBen

          Sorry Dagney, I hate to tell you but someone has to.
          The Gubmint don’t feed me, so how can I bite the hand that feeds me by disagreeing with any and everything that Obummer is doing?

    • tg7357

      This isn’t about the US being involved in the Middle East per se: its about our support of Israel. Nutshell. If we didn’t support Israels right to exhist as an independent country, then a lot of our issues wuld indeed vanish in the Middle East. But sometimes taking the high road and doing the right thing is costly, and always has been. If our grandparents hadn’t stood up to Germany and Japan in the 1940′s, your cushy exhistence that you have right now would be VASTLY differrent! So before you spout ‘Imperialism” towards American policy, you’d better hark back to a history book and look and see what real ‘imperialsim’ is all about. Read up on the massacre at Shanghai by the Japanese, or the sieges at Stalingrad and the Warsaw Ghetto. Then come back and lecture us all on ‘American imperialsm’ and ‘acting like Japanese imperialists’.

      • Dagney

        No good deed has ever gone unpunished.

        • tg7357

          Especially if you are an American.

      • Poor Granny

        But Obama ISN’T supporting Israel. He’s supporting muslims in the Middle East. He sent back to the UK the statue of Winston Churchill which belonged to the people of the U.S., insulting the UK, but bowed down the the Emir of Saudia Arabia. He endorsed and forced muslim leadership in Kenya against the prevailing Christian leader. When his boy, Odinga, lost the election, his followers went on a rampage, killing, raping women, girls and boys, buring down houses, and herding something like 160 Chrisians into a Baptist church – men, women and children, and burned it down with them in it — alive. For whatever reason, Condoleeza Rice asked Obama to intervene. He did. The result? His boy, Odinga was REWARDED with co-leadership (how much of our tax money went to pave the way for that? Now Kenya is having to struggle against a movement for sharia law.
        No, Obama is not in support of Israel. There’s that speech of apology he made in Egypt. He has broken every promise he made to Israel during the elections when he was courting jewish votes. He has a lack of fine character qualities, is a liar and brings us nothing but shame.

        • tg7357

          Obama DOESN’T support Israel, but I think a majority of the American people do. Barky is paying lip service to Israel until after the November elections, and if they go against the demolibs, he won’t show his true colors. If the dems do win, then we can basically kiss Israel good-bye becasue Obama will drop them like a hot potatoe and embrace further his Muslim brothers. He’s playing both sides, and always has.

          • 45caliber

            I support Israel’s right to exist. I support the people there having a right to live. Just as I support all other countries of the world who are peaceful.

            But their enemies want them dead – simply because they are Jews. That is racism in its worst case. I don’t KNOW that the US support is all that keeps them alive – but it still doesn’t hurt to let their enemies know that we expect them to remain alive.

            It is the liberals who insist that we should let them die to remove a contentious reason for war in that area of the world.

          • http://eddie47d eddie47d

            Poor Granny; Kenya just signed a new Constitution which reflects American values. It hasn’t been ratified yet so it could change.That is still a step in the right direction.

          • http://eddie47d eddie47d

            Not true, Caliber that all liberals want Israel to cease to exist.Liberals do tend to support the Palastinians for Statehood over the continued fiasco between the two nations. I also support Statehood but certainly don’t want Israel to loose anymore territory.

          • Sam

            I hope, he never helps Israel again, you think i’m upset if he does not help israel?! It is the cause of all problems in the world.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Note to Sam – Do you know who Israel is? Do you really know? God Himself will punish them, as He has over the years for their disobediance, but He also will protect them and always preserve them. They are God’s chosen people. The minute we back away from them, we are done. Thats it, bottom line.

          • Lubo

            Sam must be a muslim. Comments indicate it anyway. FUll of venom and hate.

          • Kinetic1

            Beberoni,
            Here is a case where our government blurs the line between church and state, and I’m not sue how I feel about it. As a nation we decided to stand behind the creation of Israel following WWII in response to the Holocaust. As part of that support we agreed to aid in Israel’s defense, but for how long? There’s no question but that the atrocities committed against the Jewish people were among the worst in modern history. As a compassionate nation we were bound to do our best to help, as we have done with many other nations. But at what point does compassion become obsession?

            The U.S. allots roughly 1/5th of it’s annual foreign aid budget to Israel. Despite the fact that Israel has become a wealthy industrial nation, we continue to give them military aid at a rate climbing towards 3.15 Billion dollars a year. What’s more, we allow Israel to use a larger than normal percentage of that aid to purchase weapons from their own manufacturers, cutting our manufacturers out of the picture. Why do we continue to give a wealthy nation so much of our own wealth? What do we receive in return? To some it is the partnership of a friendly nation in the middle east, though they often test that friendship. But to others, which would appear to include you, it is a matter of religious belief.

            Many Christians believe that God would abandon our nation if we discontinued our support of Israel. In fact, Israel has been able to get away with far more than we would allow most any other nation due to this belief. But at what point do we decide that the religious beliefs of a portion of our populace can no longer trump the political and financial interests of our nation? At a time of rapidly mounting debit, is it right to be giving so much to one wealthy nation? With health care cost rising and the debate over Government health care coming to a boil, why are we sending billions to a nation with universal health care? Many of you argue that it is wrong to take from one group of people to provide for another, but that is exactly what we are doing. My taxes go to pay for the defense and well being of the people of Israel, despite the needs of my neighbors! Why am I forced to support a wealthy nation at such an outrageous level while my own nation falls further and further into debt? Where are your conservative values now?

        • 45caliber

          eddie”
          I’m glad you support Palestine for statehood. However you’re a little behind the times. They HAVE it. And when they got it they immediately attacked Israel. Those that weren’t too sure about it left the country. Some stayed in Israel – and even helped defend it.

          What Palestine wants now is a joint statehood – where they can walk or ride into Israel without being stopped and checked. We are having trouble in the US now because our federal government doesn’t want to do that on our southern border. And they aren’t trying to blow us up. The Israelis aren’t interested in allowing them to freely come and go in Isreal – and as a seperate country I can’t blame them.

          The trouble is that the liberals (and you) tend to want to make a joint country. And that CANNOT work as long as one group wants to kill the other, I don’t care what dream of peace you see there. All that would do would be to allow the Palestinians a better chance to murder and make it harder for Israel to defend its people. And it would make it harder – far harder – on the Arab Israeli citizens because sooner or later all would be suspect and possibly attacked.

          Your dream of peace and one people is NOT going to work here. So quit trying to force it.

        • GentleBen

          Granny,
          He has ALL of the FINER TRAITS of the Muslim, Lying Usurper that he is! The sooner his administration is neutered the better off this country will be. Obama is the quintisential Politician (read accomplished LIAR, he says what the people want to hear at the time. What I want to know is how the media managed to not pin him down on anything that he was lying about during the campains. Everything was there if you just looked and listened, but no we were as a nation too enamored with the thoughts of the first Affirmative Action President in the history of the USA. Now we see what affirmative action will get you.

        • LOS ANGELES

          YOU GO POOR GRANNY. YOU GOT ALL HIS MOVES ON TARGET. IT’S SAD THAT BARRY HUSSEIN THE PIDE PIPPER PLAYS HIS FIDDLE AND ALL THE BLIND MICE FOLLOW. TAKE OFF YOUR BLINDERS BEFORE IT’S TO LATE…HIS ROAD IS A ONEWAY TICKET TO HELL. THAT’S THE CHANGE THAT HE IS PLANING FOR YOU BELIEVERS IN HIM. HE CARES NOTHING ABOUT THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE. HE HAS NO ROOTS HERE. THAT’S WHY HE IS ALWAYS BOWING DOWN TO THE NOBODYS OF THIS WORLD. I WOULD ONLY BOW DOWN TO MY CREATOR WHO MADE ME.

        • Craig

          Give Oidiot time and he will be sending the Statue of Liberty back to France. What do you think that Air Force One fly over of the statue, early in his presidency, was for? So the chocolate Marxist could dream about replacing the statue of Lady Liberty with his likeness.

        • Marie Mandel

          Granny, what have you been smoking?

      • spike

        Guess what? Obama isn’t taking the high road and protecting Isreal. He’s hanging her out to dry.

    • marvin

      i guess the first golf war in kuwait did not count

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Or we could have just sat back and did nothing, let Saddam get absolute power, take over the whole middle east and all the oil, and cripple America and the rest of the world. Kind of like Hitler when he destroyed all of Europe before America came and got rid of him. You can sit around and act like someone isnt out to get you pal, but its not making you safe or your kids safe. On the contrary, it is making it more dangerous for all. Bush could have played like Clinton, and let them keep blowing up The World Trade Center basement and the USS Cole, and the events in Somalia, and not have done anything. But seriously, doesnt there come a time to you, when your tired of being punched in the face, and you want to be a man and make it stop, for the betterment of your people? Give me a break. George Bush had the guts to strike back, and I applaud that. Only I would have gone harder. Id have leveled Baghdad with a big one, then asked if they had any more questions. Sure it would have taken out some that didnt deserve to, but just like Nagasaki and Hiroshima, it would have saved thousands in the long run. Iran wouldnt be doing what they are doing now had we done this, and thats a fact. And until we do show them we arent afraid to use this force, they will keep acting a fool. And now that things are what they are, Id drop a big one on Tehran, then ask them if they have any other questions. But thats just me, I want peace and to save lives, and this is how you do it, and you can cry and say Im mean and all that, but its the most caring way to do it to save lives, because anything short of this, the bleeding is going to just keep coming and coming and coming, and it isnt going to stop until we speak their language to them, total destruction. At that point, they will start to listen.

      • Maverick

        American like you scare me. Americans like you are why we have been at war longer than anytime in our history. After America wages war it is followed by recession historically. Look it up. If we are not imperialists then why have nearly 100 foreign military bases? I’m waiting for your typical G0P answer.

        • Poor Granny

          Your ignorance is showing. Americans have never, ever, wanted to expand their territory beyond our natual borders. We’ve fought WW1, WW2, the Korean war –never, ever have we taken any of the spoils of war. We’ve taken no land from the losers, and we’ve forgiven the debts owed to us by our allies to help win the wars.

          • ValDM

            Granny,
            That simply isn’t true about the spoils of war. At the end of WWII, we didn’t have missile technology. We acquired missile technology as spoils of war. We got that technology from Germany! While I’m not in favor of more war, I’m also not in favor of just laying down either. My take on this is that Iran will make a token attack on Israel soon. As Israel’s defender, we will become involved. A treaty will be signed between Israel and Iran and then we will have “psuedo” peace which will not last for very long. As a consequence of the aformentioned, ALL of us will become involved in a GLOBAL civil war.

          • Bob

            PG It’s hard to keep control of a country we just destroyed so we put in a puppet gov’t and you can’t tell the difference.

          • GentleBen

            It is starkly clear that ValDM has no clue who Dr. Robert Goddard was, probably because he has never read a history book that hasn’t been re-written by the leftist revisionistas.

        • Shibamom

          Maverick – Who the heck are you?? Are you even an American citizen?? If so, how and where do you get the idea that America is Imperialist??? Do you even know what imperialism is? The dictionary defines imperialism as “The policy of seeking to extend the power, dominion, or territories of a nation.” The US has not done that. As one who served in the military overseas, a US military base has absolutely zero juristiction or power outside of the gates. If a soldier, sailor, or airman gets into to trouble outside of the gate, they are at the mercy of the local authorities AND the military authorities. So basically you are punished twice. So, you sad analogy does not hold water here. The military bases all over the world are not there to govern or control anything.

          • Sam

            What is it for then? That’s funny, as if you pray in those bases or play golf or….? Why do you have these bases then? It is to control the leaders of those countries and thus, you control the whole country you…

          • Shibamom

            What is it for then? That’s funny, as if you pray in those bases or play golf or….? Why do you have these bases then? It is to control the leaders of those countries and thus, you control the whole country you…

            Sam – Yeah, yeah, yeah…there I was, a 19 year old blindly following the orders of my superiors to take over the country we were in. Don’t be a freakin’ idiot. We flew airplanes in support of NATO you bozo. Typical crap from someone that’s never been in the military. Apparently you too hate the USA so don’t you just leave? All countries gain something from war…get it??? ALL FREAKIN’ countries you putz!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          We have never taken land from wars. We have freed millions of peoples and dozen of countries, because we did the right thing, and stood up for people who couldnt defend themselves. Kind of like when Jesus took the nails for me, and gave me a second chance. He did what was hard, and didnt look to take the easy road. And He was rewarded for His efforts, and sits on Heavens throne. I thank God we liberated Kuwait and kept them free, and that we liberated Iraq from a dictator that cut the heads off of anyone whom he disagreed with. I will thank God for liberating Iran from their hatred filled regime, which is going to happen sooner or later, just not under this president, as he hasnt a clue how to do things, which is more and more evident everyday. You can sit back and do nothing, and wonder what happened when all kinds of big cities start getting nuked here, and wonder why nobody did anything. Or you can just stick your head in the sand and act like its not happening. But fact is, it is happening, whether you want to admit it or not. The muslim terrorists are real, they are building nukes, and they will dump them on us as soon as they can figure out how to deliver them. That is a fact. They want us dead, and are willing to kill themselves to kill us. What part of that dont you understand? Are you so arrogant you think you can actually sit down and have a glass of wine and dinner with them, and they will play nice? Are you nuts man or what? You have got to be kidding me. Come on man, wake up and smell the roses. They arent going away, unless we make them go away. Get it?

          • http://none Alex

            If you would stop and listen for a moment, instead of blathering on so, you would realize that Jesus was a gay Socialist.

        • GentleBen

          Maverick:
          you need to try and count your bases again, you are off by a few.
          If you don’t like America then leave, if you are not American then shut up because I don’t want to listen to anyone who is bashing my country!

        • Lubo

          I guess Maverick thinks we have 57 states like ole Barack does. I guess since we defeated Japan and Germany in WWII that made them a state?

          Go figure?

        • Oh Please…

          Truly, yoursis a pathetic and childish attitude & arguement. If America is such an evil imperalist country (as you seem to believe), why is it that sooooo many countries LOOK TO THE U.S. for support (be it military, financial or otherwise)?? How funny that the U.S. is so easily labelled in the negative UNTIL some need arises! Funny thing too….when those support needs are not addressed quickly enough (or at all) as they arise, THEN the U.S. is scrutinized for lacking humanitarian concerns (and are haunted by liberals to do something). Sure, it may seem like a sweet, blissful existance for the U.S. to exist in complete isolation from the rest of the world….but like ALL fairytales it is not realistic (and sorry to burst the bubble for you and your ilk….but it also would NOT subdue the hate of those in the world that have it as their mission to destroy our way of living).

        • spike

          Because after WW2 we learned to not stick our heads in the sand, and we have allies all over the world. Americans like YOU scare ME.

      • Dagney

        Unfortunately, I think you are right on the money. The devastation of Nagasaki and Hiroshima actually saved untold lives. Then, historically, look at the wonderful society Japan became after that. It is tragic what happened to those people under those bombs. But, you cannot discount the good that was actually the end result.

        I think it will be come necessary. Obama missed a golden opportunity to assist the revolution in Iran after the so-called vote they had. If Obama had sent whatever covert and overt help to those people protesting, we probably would have had a very different story at this time.

        • Conservative at Birth

          Surely you jest. Obama has admitted in his book, that when the choice comes, between Islam and Freedom he will side with Islam.

          • DaveH

            There is little doubt that Obama has contempt for Freedom. But it is hard these days to find a politician that doesn’t have contempt for Freedom.

          • jim l.venegas

            you got that right conservvative

          • Oh Please…

            True DaveH….the only freedoms most politicians seem to care about is THEIR OWN.

        • FuLL10

          Good point. Think about this one though. With Bush #1 what happened to the anti-Saddam population when we stopped at the Kuati border? We than even gave Saddam helicopters with immunity from the “no-fly ” zone rules so he could to slaughter his enemies with full scale efforts. In retrospect – probably not he best choice. Then too, if all those folks had lived, there would probably be an Ayatola running Iraq now.

          No easy answers folks.

        • Lubo

          Dagney…. Very true statements. If not for the A-BOMBS it would have cost about 8 million more lives to stop the imperalist machine in Japan.

      • Poor Granny

        You’ve got it right. Unfortunately, watch what happens now. Ahademinejad (probably wrong spelling) is making overtures that he’s willing to listen to the U.S. Sure. Watch Obama sit down with him and tell Ahademinejad what the U.S. will give him to stop his nuclear program. Ahademinejad will take it and all will seem hunky-dory until the nukes start flying out of Iran. Ahademinejad’s no fool. In the muslim faith, it’s ok to lie to an “infidel” which means anyone not also a muslim, and has been refined to mean the same kind of muslim you are. That’s why, again and again, Israel and the so-called “Palestinians” have made agreements, and Israel has kept every stipulation on their side, but the “Palestinians” have never even fulfilled one stipulation. And now the Great Obama is going to broker a Middle East peace between them, forcing his will down the throats of Israel, just as he is forcing his will down the throats of U.S. citizens. AARGH!

        • http://eddie47d eddie47d

          Granny; N. Korea has threatened the US a few times and they have nukes. Iran has none and we have threatened them a few times. Let the negotiations play out and stop banging the war drums.

        • Wlmitch1

          It is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. My mother calls him Ahkie for short. I think that Ahmadinejad is little more than a puppet of the radical, bloodthirsty Mullahs in Iran.

        • GentleBen

          No one will force anything down the throats of the Israelis. Once again the biggest shortcoming of us Americans shows itself, we think that everyone thinks the way we do.
          The Israelis are not spoiled like Amereica, they see first hand what is going on. Quite frankly, I am shocked they haven’t already taken out the nuclear facilities in Iraq.
          Israel is and always will be God’s chosen, nothing will happen to them unless he wills it! If you don’t believe that, How do you explain the Six Day War?

          • Lubo

            Well put…. the fact is I don’t think any country on the planet wants to tangle with Israel. These people aren’t pampered like we Americans. They were born into war and all of them serve their country. When you have blood thirsty radicals as your neighbors then you must stand your guard, constantly.

            I think with the advent of muslims moving here, we will be faced with the same issues in the near future, as our friends in Israel.

            Never thought we would need to deal with these issues in America, but it appears we will be the next “New middle east” Oh’Boy!

        • GentleBen

          meant Iran not Iraq

      • BigBadJohn

        Berberoni, Let Saddam get absolute power????? Perhaps you forgot that Saddam LOST his war with Iran so he invaded Kuwait. Then the USA smashed his whole army and forced weapons inspectors into his country. When those weapons inspectors left they claimed that they had distoyed 100% of his ability to make WMD’s and probably about 95% of any weapons he had. I seems that they were right no WMD factories found and only some weapons were found buried in obscure bunkers but that was it. Too bad Bush refused to listen and fabricated his own story.

        Saddam’s army was so weak they could not invade anyone!

      • http://eddie47d eddie47d

        Bereroni: Iran hasn’t attacked anyone in 300 years and you want to Nuke Terhan. How about Ottawa,Canada and their socialist government.Maybe Paris for all those socialists. How about Mexico City for you know how corrupt they are. You are not a problem solver but a destroyer. Hey Bejing would be a good target and we could cancel all our debt to them in one blast.

        • GentleBen

          Shhh!
          Obama wasn’t ready to let the world know how he was going to pay back the trillions of dollars we will owe China!

      • Fay

        I think You are right. I know if someone tried to hurt My children or GrandChildren or Great Grandchildren I would fight and not stand around waiting for them to do more harm. I will protect My self and Family the best I can. I am a Woman of almost 66 years and thanks to My late Husband all My Children and My self know how to shoot but don’t think it will do much good with out Everyone else doing the same. but at least I will stand up for My Country if needed God Bless All of You and God Bless The United States of America and please Everyone vote and keep in contact with Your Reps and Senators and Governors with what You want.

        • FuLL10

          Keep your guns Fay. Try not to let Barakma and his cronie masters at the UN price your ammunition out of reach. According to many of our DC occupants, YOU (a 66 year old lady – gun owner) are a potential terrorist.

        • GentleBen

          Fay,
          if it comes down to it, you just bring yourself and your kin out here to Arizona. True Free America has to start somewhere might as well be here!

    • Bob

      Good post Dave This site has turned into nothing but Christian bashing.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Dave Gross… We are hated for our capitalism and success. Our country became strong and prosperous by the hand of God. The Founding Fathers knew what was needed to become the country we have become. We must stand behind Israel regardless of what Iran does. God will remove His protection from us, if we don’t…

      • DaveH

        Robin,
        Our Founding Fathers disdained foreign entanglements:
        http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff1400.htm

        • FuLL10

          Dave H… the 9/11 Muslim terrorists didn’t distain foreign entanglements. Do you still think we should?

          • DaveH

            Absolutely not, Full. We should have tracked down their source and laid out some heavy casualties. At least 3 of them for every one of ours. And then we should have come home. No nation building. Let them rebuild their own country. They would think twice about sponsoring terrorism again. We would have saved many lives on our side and many on their side too.

        • GentleBen

          Check your facts Dave, at the time Israel did not exist as a nation. They were still scattered. If you read your bible it will tell you that we are in the end times as he has gathered his people together.
          Your bible will also tell you that any nation that blessed Israel was blessed because of their dealings with his chosen. I don’t know about you, but I would rather put up with everyone else hating this nation than have to deal with God hating us!

          • DaveH

            God would hate us for not attacking Iran?
            Please.

  • Pat

    I do not expect our Muslim President to do anything. Expect Iran to be attacked, but it will come from Israel, not the USA. Obama is an empty suit with NO experience or knowledge of anything except about himself. Which he has managed to keep away from the American people.
    We have plenty of oil within our own borders. Drill baby drill!Then we can take our time and develop new forms of energy.

    • William

      So do you think we need a Jewish president?

      • http://yahoo Irene Grooms

        I THINK WE NEED A PRESIDENT THAT SERCES THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA AND WORK FOR US NOT US WORK FOR HIM.

        • marvin

          i agree

        • sunrise

          Amen!!!

        • Shibamom

          Thank you Irene! A true voice of reason. All most Americans want is a President that listens to the people and doesn’t shove his self-serving crap down our throats! I’m not a big political person mainly because I can’t stand the posturing, lying, greedy SOB’s that are politicians but for some reason I had a really bad feeling about Obama. However, I KNEW he was going to get elected because the masses were in love with him, including the media. It was purely a popularity contest. After he took office things began to change. All his promises went by the wayside. Especially the transparency thing. I remember thinking “My goodness…how is he going to keep accurate information, bills, etc., posted on the internet?” First and foremost, that would compromise national security. Let’s face it…you can find anything on the internet! But I didn’t have to wonder long because…he BROKE that promise. I’ve tried to not get wrapped up in the Muslim/birth certificate dialog because people on both sides feel very strongly. HOWEVER…I cannot sit by and watch this American hating person destroy the only country I’ve ever known and love dearly. Because clearly he is doing just that. I don’t trust him and believe that he will be covertly dealing with Iran to harm us. Just my feeling and very sorry if it offends anyone. We have a lying, deceitful, muslim pres folks and we are going to pay dearly.

          • http://eddie47d eddie47d

            Shibamom:Apparently you may be a lying deceitful Christian because Obama is not a Muslim. Don’t believe everything you hear for there are many forces of destruction out there. Some on the right and some on the left.

          • Craig

            Sure he isn’t eddie. He even said he was, his own words. And he thinks the call to prayer, a gawd awful annoying noise, is beautiful.

            Why do mudslimes need to be reminded to come pray? Are they that stupid that they forget they have to bang their head on the ground 5 times a day?

      • Al Sieber

        William, it doesn’t matter what religion the president is as long as he follows the constitution and keeps his oath of office.

        • tg7357

          So far all Obama has shown us is that he believes the Constitution is just a framed decoration on the walls of Congress, and his oath of office was an inconveinience.

          • Bob

            TG Bush said it was just a Gdamn piece of paper. They are both evil.

      • Andrew

        We need a corporate president who does what the corporations say.

        For instance like the Bushs.

        • Conservative at Birth

          The Democrat Party is the party of Big Business (Corporations?), yet somehow most people mistakenly believe that the Republican Party is the party of the wealthy. Then why is it the average contribution to the Democrats is twice that of the average contribution to the Republicans? The Bush’s are RINO’s or Rockefeller Republicans, who are known to be more fiscally conservative than the Democrats, but not as fiscally conservative as RIGHT WING WACKO REPUBLICANS, such as my self.

          • DaveH

            Conservative,
            That is a fact. The Democrats have gotten away for years with labeling the Republicans as being pro Big Business. Their ignorant followers swallow that hook, line, and sinker whenever Republicans try to lessen Market regulations.
            What Liberals (the followers, not the leaders) don’t understand is that regulations play right into the hands of Big Businesses who can easily afford to hire cadres of lawyers and accountants to jump through the regulatory hoops. Their competition (smaller businesses) can’t afford that.
            But I fault the Republicans for not being more aggressive in their efforts to educate people to that reality.
            For anybody who still thinks differently, this might sober you up:
            http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2008/10/13/the-rich-support-mccain-the-super-rich-support-obama/
            Oh, I know they say they’re concerned with social issues, but in life you must learn to read between the lines. If they are indeed concerned with charity, why do they have hundreds of millions of dollars? Do they really need that much to be happy? Why not give most of it away to the poor voluntarily? Why support a party that takes money away from others forcefully?

          • Lubo

            Daveh…Bea-uti-mus!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        What’s the matter with Jewish people? Im not one, but I dont have a problem with them. Or Germans. Or Irish. Or Catholics. Or Protestants. Or Mexicans. Or Polish. Only Muslims. Seem’s to me they are they only ones who have avowed death to America and Israel. So yes, I have a problem with a group who has sworn on their life to kill me and anyone like me. With all this political correctness going on, where if you look at some other race the wrong way its considered a hate crime, but if your muslim, your allowed to stand on the public square and denounce Americans and say they need to die, and we allow it and look the other way. I have a problem with this, and any freedom loving American should have a problem with this. The very tenants of their existance state that if you dont think like they do, your an infidel and deserve death. Yes, I have a big problems with muslims. A big one.

        • Bob

          Seems to me that some of you are more worried about Israel than the US. If you’re that worried catch a flight and fight for them.

          • Conservative at Birth

            Aren’t you worried about Israel?

          • Bob

            Conservative at Birth I only worry about America. The rest can blow themselves to hell for all I care. Anybody that worries about other countries over us should go there.

          • FuLL10

            Bob, WAKE UP!!! The terrorists of 9/11 were worried about other countries (the US). They were worried that those 3000 of us in the twin towers were going to live to see 9/12. How well does your “If I stay home I’ll stay safe” philosophy work in this case?

        • BrotherPatriot

          Exactly…if you don’t worship Islam…you are an infidel and deserve to die. I also have a problem with a religion that spouts hate and calls for the death of anyone that worships differently.

          It’s amazing that there are so many people who actually worship such a religion when it was written down by a single, falible human during his lifetime. With contradictions within their holy book resolved by what was written last…the earlier peaceful passages are stomped upon by the later more violent passages that calls for the death of all non-believers until the only religion left standing is…Islam.

          I say they have their towels wrapped to tightly around their heads. If there is a more evil religion…I don’t know of it.

          • FuLL10

            I don’t know that much about Islam, but at least for the radicals, it seems to be WAAAYYY! loaded in favor of the male at the expense of the female. Those girls don’t get to do much without permission from all sides. Maybe some women do need to be controlled like that.. OUCH OUCH!.. Stop!.. OWWWww!Not you Dear… NOT you..! OWWww!

        • Awakened

          I agree, Beberoni. The obsession with being politically correct has made this whole world a much MORE dangerous place.

        • Sam

          well have fun then! I am a Muslim and i love American, but not your kind! you are not even a human

          • GentleBen

            Sam,
            I will pray for you that God will open your eyes to the false teachings of your chosen religion.
            Please do yourself a favor and research the origins of Islam, find out who Ali’iah was and who Mohammed really worshiped!
            The bible tells me to love and pray for my enemies, but it doesn’t tell me to stand idly by and watch them kill innocents!

          • Lubo

            sam…..Thanks for just verifying my studies and observations of your cult.

            ” not even human” I guess that equates to an animal or a woman.

            and you wonder why MILLIONS upon MILLIONS have perished under your FALSE religion?

            Case closed.

      • Poor Granny

        HAhaha. Wouldn’t that be fun? Unfortunately all jewish people are not for Israel. There are religious jews and secular jews and most in the U.S. are secular and very much Democrats. Bad choice. He would probably be so worried about it being said that he’s all for Israel that he would go the other way. What we need is a President who understands the Islamic mindset, that Islam is a way of life; it’s not just a religion, it’s also a way of law. To Muslims, there is no separation of state and religion. We need a President who isn’t afraid to tell the truth, who has the b…. to do what’s right, who knows that freedom isn’t free and is worth everything to keep.

        • DaveH

          The thing is, Granny, Obama doesn’t want us to be Free. The last thing he would fight for is Freedom.

        • http://eddie47d eddie47d

          Granny; First of all you call Obama a Muslim. Now you are saying “we need a President who understands the Islamic mindset”.Bush didn’t know a thing about the Muslims and went to war.Obama knows a few things about Islam and is trying to get us out of war. I’ll take the latter.

          • tg7357

            Hold on a minute: you libs are the ones who keep yelling Bush was buddies with the Saudis and Osama Bin Hidin!!! How can he be BFF with middle eastern types and not know anything about them? You libs can’t have it both ways, although I know obsfucating facts is how you get your jollies. Either bush was a fan of the middle easterners, or he wasn’t. Pick one choice and stick with it!!!

          • DaveH

            Eddie will fabricate whatever “facts” he thinks will support his position at the time.

          • Lubo

            eddie47d……LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            You exude a tremendous amount of ignorance for one single individual.

          • eddie47d

            Dave H. Always the nasty one but I see you have a new friend. The other guy Lubo I think we’ll remname him LOCO.

      • GentleBen

        Better a Jewish President that the lying, Muslim, Christian hating, Usurper in Chief that we have now!
        And before you say it …. No I am not a repugnican!

      • spike

        YES!!! THAT’S THE TICKET!!! ONE THAT WOULD PRAY!!! HE WOULDN’T BE AFRAID OF THESE hoodlums. They are bullies who make up stuff as they go. We should learn to fight like them, gorilla style, like the Vietnamese did to us.

    • wasadoc

      Pat, I believe that you are spot on.

    • Hflashman

      Once again, repeat the Big Lie that Obama is a Muslim. Repeat it often enough and some idiot will begin to believe it or give it substance. Every shred of evidence points to his being a christian…yet the wacked have found a pool of ignorance which they will exploit for political purposes and without regard to our nation.

      So they whip up Iran now as a potential target to call into question. On one hand, they state if he goes in…he’s doing it for political purposes. If he doesn’t, they say it’s because he’s a “secret Muslim”.

      And there are idiots and ignorant who don’t think and unblinkngly will believe whatever they are told to believe, think whatever they are told to think.

      And before you castigate and denigrate me for telling the truth…think about this.

      He was baptized christian, married in a christian church, attended a church, violates Ramadan, eats pork, knows scripture, drinks alcohol, touches people with his left hand, raises his daughters in christian values, sends them to a private school founded and based on christian principles. But…we are told to believe all that is fake.

      Jeesh …

      • Doc Sarvis

        Great Points. Well said.

      • Michael

        But he doesn’t wear his birth certificate on his forehead.

      • tg7357

        Hey flashman: if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and is treated like a Muslim by other Muslims, chances are it is a duck and a Muslim. How many times have you see old Barko take Shelly with him to the Middle East on his ‘goodwill tours’? None. Go look in a book of Islamic customs and you’ll see why.

      • marvin

        he is still a moron like you

      • http://PLD TomD

        Yeah but I don’t know somehow the name( Barrack Hussein Obama) maybe that has something to do with it
        and he attended Rev Wrights church
        hmmmm

      • sunrise

        every shred of evidence points to him being a Christian?! hahaha
        Yeah, if you are not a Christian, as you obviously are not, and know nothing about the beliefs of a Christian maybe. He is obviously not a Christian. a rose is a rose is a rose, you will know them by their fruit…..

        • Hflashman

          How about that sect that worships snakes as part of the vceremony? Are they Christian/ Or who believes there are witches that need to be driven away. Are they christian?

          If not…perhaps you should be calling into question palin’s claim to being a christian.

          I guess one is a christian if they worship “the right way’…whatever that is . Seems there is an abundance of opinions of what makes a “christian’…which one would be correct? I’d say my way and those that don’t worshp in the form, manner and style as i do are all non believers and faking it and are secretly Satan worshippers. How’s that? Just as much substance as someone saying Obama is a Muslim…

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Let me ask you this then my blind friend. How, and I mean how, could he in an interview with George Stephnopolous say that “it is against my muslim religion” or an afront to my muslim religion, and George had to stop him and say “you mean your Christian religion”. Now see, Im a Christian, and those words could no how, in no way, ever, and I mean ever slip out of my mouth, because not being a muslim, they are not in me or anywhere near me, therefore they could not slip out of my mouth in any way, shape or form. But they did come out of his mouth. For him to say that, this has to be in him. There is no doubt about it. He changed his name from Barry Soetore to Barack Hussein Obama. You dont find that the least bit strange. Gee, his muslim daddy, in a muslim country, and he has a muslim name, but he is not? Give me a break. You need to go to rehab, and get a grip on reality. Oh, and no he cannot be a Christian. No Christian could ever sit for 20 years in a church with a racist pastor, that uses the Lord’s name in vain open and frequently. Sorry, a real Christian would run from any church that uses any kind of racial division that this guy brings out. Anyone knowing Jesus Christ would reject this kind of thing. And thats a fact.

        • GentleBen

          thank you.
          Obviously there aare some of us who didn’t drink the kool-aid.
          Not now, not ever would a true Christian Preacher use the Lords name in vain, and there is no way that a true Christian would have stayed in that “church” one minute after it happened!

        • Kinetic1

          Beberoni,
          If you are going to use this tired argument, at least get the quote right. Obama said “… you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.” The problem is that you and everyone else who cling to this as proof have taken this statement out of context. What Obama was saying is that McCain had never claimed that he [Obama] was a Muslim. He was reinforcing Stephenopolis’ statement that, while many on the right were suggesting that Islam was Obama’s true faith, McCain had never done so.

      • Conservative at Birth

        Black Liberation Theology is Christian? Reverend Jeramiah Wright would not be accepted in most true Christian Curches. If they were, I certainly woul not attend. Evidently, you have accepted the repatations movement. I have not. Have you read Obama’s books?

      • Poor Granny

        Any true Christian knows that Obama is NOT a true christian. It’s something he said to get votes. The proof is in how he lives his life. A true Christian reads the word of God and does his best to live by it. A true Christian studies the word of God and prays. Yes, it’s been said that he prays and with notable religious leaders. Well, who are these leaders and to what God is he praying? If it’s the likes of Jeremiah Wright (who has been to the White House numerous times) and Jesse Jackson — these men are the ones Paul and John and James and Jude all warned about as “false teachers.” They don’t preach the word of God. They are in religion for the money. These two are into black supremacy: they whip up general frustration into great agitation and keep the black/white thing going. Both have become extremely rich off their victims. Jesse Jackson blackmails companies like Toyota into giving him large sums of money, or he’ll “tell his followers not to buy Toyota.” These are not true Christian leaders. And Obama is not a true Christian. He is a racist. Time will show you that. There are many black racists far more racist than many whites. It’s reverse racism. A real Christian can’t vote Democrat because of the abortion issue, the gay issue, the research on embryonic stem cell issue, and the re-definiton of marriage issue. These are all issues that anyone who reads and studies God’s word and comes to know the heart of God CANNOT vote for. A vote for a Democrat is a vote against God. Obama’s god is not the one true living God.

        • GentleBen

          Let’s call a spade a spade so to speak.
          Obama’s God is Mammon (money).

      • Shibamom

        So…who freakin’ died and made you the knower of all things true??? You are just another Obama-ite bound and determined to make your golden boy look wonderful. I don’t a rats butt about his religion however, I also have a problem if he is a muslim or even leans that way a little. Since we’ve all established that the muslim faith condones the telling of lies, and apparently doesn’t care about the magnitude of those lies, then Obama would have no problem making the sign of the cross like a catholic or any other lying, deceitful act. I DO NOT LIKE people that want to kill me and any of my countrymen simply because we do not practice the muslim or islamic or whatever the hell it is religion! I cannot fathom any faith that allows killing of innocents or terroristic acts or hating others because they don’t believe like you do. I don’t get it just like I don’t get why you so adamantly support the anti-American Obama.

      • dave

        he also quotes the karan. just because u can quote scripture doesn’t make you a christian. even the devil can quote scripture. he tried to use scripture against Jesus in the wilderness.

      • FuLL10

        Flashie. Barakma sits there for twenty years listening to “God D…m America” and is totaslly uninfluenced by anything negative…he becomes spiritually enlightened with a warm and fuzzy feeling for all his fellow citizens. That’s my kind of Prez…

      • Lubo

        ole flash…. and he believes in “Collective Salvation” and obviously your are not a Christian, or you would not put in writing, your simple minded foolishness.

      • spike

        Sorry, He’s not a Christian. I can see it in sooo many ways. He’s probably so spritually confused that he tries to take a little of this, a little of that, and paste it on as a religious belief. Alot of people in our society do that, and it appeases them. He needed to be something, so he took “a little of this belief, a little of that…” and he has been exposed to Islam, and Catholicsm, and Baptist…so, he took what he likes from all of that, and he just does what he does…
        but,guys, sorry, don’t think he’s a true muslim. He just has very dangerous affinities toward them.

    • Bookem Dano

      Yes dril baby drill, is what we need to do. It wouldn’t surprise me if “mine furor in cheif” gets involved in a war in the middle east, declares martial law, suspends the constitution, and declares himself president for life. After all, we all know he believes he is the only one who can save our country from desaster.

      • Al Sieber

        Right on Bookem.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Yeah, and its the same guy who cannot even talk to the public without reading off a telestrator. He has nothing on the ball, and needs to go, and to go soon.

        • Bob

          Berberoni He reads from a teleprompter.

      • Poor Granny

        That’s close to the plan. Some very well-connected, monied people fast-tracked Obama. He’s their puppet, he’s not doing the job of the President. He’s in it for the fun. He gets to ride on air-force one, take as many vacations as he wants, play golf, have parties, gets to be the first African-American president, all the benefits and pension for life. He doesn’t need to worry about the details, like keeping in daily touch with the General in charge of Iraq or Afghanistan. He is given his orders and he says what they tell him to say. They want to demolish our traditional system, our Constitution, our rights, or freedoms and bring us to a point financially where we are unable to recover and have to accept some kind of a global system. We are in great, great danger. All our freedoms are being taken away one by one, and we are headed for the end of our nation as we know it.

        • DaveH

          I’m afraid you are right, Granny, but I Hope you are wrong.
          It is the natural inclination of leaders to grow their power.
          Jefferson knew that. He tried to warn us about that immutable fact:
          “The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.”

          To thwart that occurance requires intense scrutiny by the citizens, but scrutiny requires effort and most people don’t want to expend that effort. We have apathetically allowed Government to grow out of hand for the last 200 years.

        • 45caliber

          Poor Granny:

          Back in the mid-60′s, Clinton spent a semester at University of Arkansas in his attempt to make sure he wasn’t drafted. He bragged on campus that he had been approached by 8 people who told him they would put him in the White House if he did what they told him to do. They had actually picked him out in highschool due to his working with the Young Democrats club. Nor was he the only one they had picked out. They selected a dozen or so a year to train and prep for high offices.

          I would bet money that group or one just like it is behind Oblama.

          • GentleBen

            George Soros and all his buddies at the world bank.

        • spike

          Well said, Granny.

    • Don

      We have 3% of the world’s oil and use about 20%. Oil prices are set in the Mid-East. If we use all our oil, we will then be totally dependent on others to get gas to drive our cars.

      • Sarah

        So isn’t that what the conservatives really want?

        No alternative energy.
        Deny climate change?
        Obstruct the congress?
        Medicine only from Big Pharma?

        The lobbyists also represent OPEC.

        • Conservative at Birth

          What are the alternative energies? Do you know what oil is used for? What Climate Change are you referring to?

        • tg7357

          There is nothing we can do about climate change: its a natural process this planet goes through. In the late 1800′s to early 1900′s we were coming out of what was called The Little Ice Age. Record solar flares this year is messing with the whole world’s climates, and since the 1970′s we’ve been told to cut down on fluorcarbons and gases because of the ozone, which we have.
          I’ve noticed lately that the Great Guru Gore has been pretty quiet: those pesky facts scientists that aren’t on the payroll of the left keep trotting out must be kind of embarassing.
          Do we need to cut down on pollution and find cleaner energy? Yes. But not because the libs want to stampede everyone over their leftist cliff. We need to do it because the planet does have limited resources, and because its the right thing to do.

          • 45caliber

            The main reason that Gore pushed global warming due to CO2 is that there is some companies that make the equipment to remove CO2. Unfortunately it costs billions of dollars. He bought up large shares of stock in those companies and is trying to get his friends in Washington to pass a law REQUIRING all companies in the US to buy and use that equipment. They are willing – if he can convince the voters that global warming is real and a great danger since they don’t want to vote for it and get kicked out of office over it. He stands to become one of the richest men in the world if he can get those laws passed. That’s why global warming is such a stir.

        • DaveH

          Climate Change? Of course climate changes. But you must have meant Homogenic Global Warming. I know the Liberals try to avoid that phrase now because it has been so thoroughly debunked.
          In the seventies, when Carter was trashing our economy and causing energy prices to go sky high with his Government meddling, alternative energies were all the rage. But they were costly, and the consumers resisted. So, in their efforts to do what Liberals do best (Force their ways on people) they started ringing the Global Cooling Alarm. Of course this was attributed to mankind and our energy usage. But a funny thing happened. Nature didn’t cooperate and we entered a warming trend. So 10 or 20 years later, they quietly switched to Man-Made Global Warming to achieve their alternative energy goals.
          Liberals have one main goal. That is to help themselves to our money and our choices. Liberals hate our Freedom.

          • http://eddie47d eddie47d

            There is climate change and global warming and nothing has been debunked.How can you debunk something that is still going on? When the cooling phase came along in the 70′s the earth was still warming from man made pollution. That’s why the cooling fell apart and warming took over so fast.That was 35 years ago and it’s still warming. It has nothing to do with hating freedom for that is nothing more than conservative garbage.

          • DaveH

            What is the predominant Greenhouse Gas, Eddie?

          • Lubo

            Eddie47d….. Only an liberal idiot could believe in Global Warming. Just say it Eddie, the last piller of the progressive-marxist regime, to have abosolute control over “WE THE PEOPLE” though “GLOBAL WARMING” CAP AND TAX!!!!……LOL!!!!

            Let me give you some basic 8th grade math, if you can understand it:

            Liberal-progressive-marxist politically motivated Junk science as follows:

            A = Total years of climate data collected to date
            B = Age of the Planet
            X = Time slice of climate data as it relates to the age of the planet

            x = A / B
            x = 100 years / 4,500,000,000 years that is 4.5 Billion in case you don’t understand

            x = 0.000000022% time slice of data analyzed as it relates to the age of the planet

            Let’s all get this straight, the same scientist that stated in the 70′s that the next ice age would occur by the year 2000 now state that we are about to EXPLODE in a ball of flames with a 0.000000022% time slice of data analyzed to date.

            Only a liberal could be this stupid!

          • Craig

            Eddie, man made global warming has been debunked, you uneducated fool.

          • eddie47d

            Not!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The way I see it, and Im not the only one, I believe our government fully believes that we and China and other countries will eventually suck their oil dry, then we will have the oil, and our crooked politicians are drooling heavily waiting for this, as the greed has overcome them. I mean, they are lawyers you know. Problem is, they havent forseen that they need about 10 years to drill all these wells here and build refinery’s to refine the stuff, and that they have given the Arab’s so much money that they will be coming over here and buying up all the land with the oil under it. Lawyers, what a bunch of pukes. They have totally messed up our legal and political systems.

      • Conservative at Birth

        Exactly, where do you get your numbers? I don’t think the 3% is correct. Oil is created under the earths surface all of the time, including right now. It will not totally disappear. It is the Totalitarians who want us not to drill for more, and use the Enviromental excuse to make us subserviant. Were there an economical technology alternative to automobile transportation it would have already come to market. I don’t believe anyone would object to not burning oil/gasoline to transport themselves, if they do not have to give up their freedoms. What exactly do you think will replace all of the other uses (lubrication, plastics for example)?

        • 45caliber

          One reason they don’t want the oil wells here is because the US has put so much money into developing the oil fields in the Mid-East and elsewhere that they want to recover the money by getting the oil from there. If we drilled here and got enough oil for our own needs they would have to write off those fields overseas. The oil officials consider that a smart move to take their oil and so does our politicians. In fact, I live very near an underground salt dome government operation where the government buys ship-loads of oil and pumps it back underground for storage so we’ll always have more.

          Offically the government prefers to keep our oil untouched for defense purposes. (Despite their talk of environmental reasons.) I live near some oil and gas wells now. Except for about an acre at each well and the smell close to them you’d never know they are there and are working. The spills they talk about are so seldom now and so secured that a real spill is almost impossible. But it is still an argument to use to prevent drilling here. The American people don’t care if we are using oil from other countries rather than our own since we didn’t put the money into those areas. So they lie to us about them.

        • 45caliber

          The real problem with alternate fuels is taxes. How do you tax electricty, for instance, that is made by solar energy for auto use but not for house use? And if they tried to tax electricity at the amount they would for transportation, they are likely to cause a revolt. (At the moment they are tentatively considering a road tax – a GPS in your car will send a signal to receivers about the country that reports the milage you have driven. Then you’ll get a monthly bill for the tax.)

          The same is true for using natural gas, propane, or any other alternate fuel. Until they can come up with some sort of way to tax it, they aren’t worried about going to an alternate fuel.

          Depending upon who you listen to, we have enough oil in the world to provide all uses from anywhere from 100 years to over a 1000 years. So they aren’t really in a hurry.

          The same reason goes to explain why the present cars don’t get a hundred miles a gallon. Some years ago (20 or so) a man invented a carborator that would double our gas milage, regardless of what your car would do. He wasn’t allowed to make and market it because the government would lose too much fuel tax. I’ve heard of other inventions that would do the same thing that were bought up by the auto companies or oil companies. The research is there; but no one wants to use it because the government would lose too much money in taxes.

          • http://eddie47d eddie47d

            Always good information Caliber but I think it was the oil companies who didn’t like higher mileage cars. Profits would go way down but thankfully they are now reconsidering. Our US gas tax is one of the lowest in the world and maybe that should be reconsidered too.

          • 45caliber

            The companies AND the government don’t like high milage cars. But the government is the main cause. The companies simply go along with that. The man who invented the carborator was told by the government why they wouldn’t let him make and sell it. He went public and the newspapers actually printed it. But he was in his 80′s at the time so he wasn’t around long to do anything about it.

          • Craig

            “Our US gas tax is one of the lowest in the world and maybe that should be reconsidered too.”

            HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just because the morons in the rest of the world does it, we should do it TOO. We are taxed enough in the country as it is. Leave it to a flaming lib numbskull to propose stealing more of MY money. You libs can KMLWA.

      • Bob

        Oil prices are set in the futures market. It’s a scam where the rich can buy oil in the future without putting hardly anything down.

  • Only in America

    Our last war in Iraq didn’t secure energy or boost the economy.

    Or even get even for the 9-11 hijackers.

    Why would this?

    We would be better served taking the Afghan War to the Paks with more incursions and escalation. However, that does little to boost the economy or secure energy. It may prove to the neocons like Rush and Beck that Obama is a Crusader, but I doubt that because that won’t fit their agenda.

    Obama’s Kenyan people recently passed a constitution similar to ours.

    We would be better served if the right and left protected and preserved our own, not just pieces and bits of it.

    Remember wars cost money so pay for them.

  • Johnny Machine

    What better way to show that President Obama is deeply in the pocket of the Israeli lobby than to start yet another war for the sole benefit for that racist apartheid occupation regime in Palestine.

    • Andy

      With a slow ethnic cleansing?

    • Craig

      Ewww a koolaid drinker. Oidiots hates the Israelis. Why would he be in their pocket? He has made it clear he is against them.

      Fact is the pals are the scum. You have it all wrong.

    • Bob

      Bush didn’t have the guts to start a war with Iran. It isn’t easy to order the deaths of millions of people. I don’t think Obama is that stupid either.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Im sure if Iran had the ties to the terror acts here and did what old Saddam did, Bush would have kicked his butt too. Of course, your hero Bill Clinton, well, he would just have reached for another cigar after they punched us in the nose again.

        • Hflashman

          What ties to terrorist attacks on US soil did Saddam have? None. Even Bush had to eventually admit that as a lie cooked up as a reason to take Saddam out so Bush’s cronies could access the oil wealth in Iraq…

          • http://cox.net Patsy

            Your kinda on track, You heard nothing from Iran as long as Saddam was alive. He was a mean person, but Iran couldn’t fight him, infact he kept them very busy defending them selfs. The PLOT thickend when Obumo said he was related to Bush. And everything in our goverenment has been a plot against the American people. As far as it goes for oil America has the biggest untaped well in all the world. If we opened it up, it could stop two things: 1 yellowstone from ever eropting.2 we would be no longer dependant on forigen oil.

          • Michael J.

            Hflashman,
            Saddam allowed Al Qaeda training camps to operate inside Iraq.
            Iraqi oil belongs to Iraq, not Bush’s cronies.

        • http://eddie47d eddie47d

          Berberoni always brings up half-truths and sometimes no truth at all.

        • Bob

          Not true Berberoni The Neocons tried to talk him into it but I guess killing innocent women and children was getting boring.

  • George Irrgang

    Obama will wait for Israel to attack Iran & then condemn them for doing so!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I believe you are right. I think you hit the nail on the head. That way he could kiss the terrorists butts a little bit more.

    • http://cox.net Patsy

      As far as Obumbo no being islomic, he did the dance! that’s all it takes. After that,all that’s letf is to take over the U.S. and do away with Isereal.

    • 45caliber

      Oblama has in fact stated that he will not grant the Israeli government permission to fly over Iraq to attack Iran. He’s even gone so far as to say that he would have American planes attack any Israeli planes that tried it. Saudi, on the other hand, have hinted (but not said) that they would certainly consider allowing Israel to fly over their country in such an attack.

      • Wlmitch1

        The Saudis have actually said that they ARE considering granting Israeli jets passage through Saudi air space. Saudi Arabia fears Iran just as much as Israel does. Iran IS a Muslim country, but NOT an Arab country. Most Iranians are Persians, some are Kurds, and some belong to other ethnic groups. Very few are Arabs. The Iranian authorities tend to regard Arabs as “riff-raff who have criminal tendencies.”

        • 45caliber

          They tend to consider Arabs as rif-raff with criminal tendencies, huh? I wonder why ….

    • Sam

      I hope so.

  • J.M.R.

    i see we have some brain dead libs here this morning, lets blame bush again. wonder how many of our soldiers have died under this moron dick-tater as compared to the bush era. since the main stream media has quit counting under our first dick-tater. under bush we had a day to day count, but not now. yes i would like see all troops come home and stop giving our money to all countries. but that won’t happen all the libs think we should feed all the loafers in the world. they can take the U.N. AND SHOVE IT UP THIER BACK SIDE.

    • Josh

      Most “conservatives” have disowned Bush.

      He had a great opportunity to balance the deficit but chose to do the opposite.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I havent. I love the guy. But I, unlike the liberals who cannot admit any wrong out of their guys, got pretty ticked off that the Bush admin did not reign in spending. That is the one thing they didnt do that I expected them to do. It didnt happen, and I dont like it one bit. However, I have noticed, that while the liberals are still digging up bones and pointing the finger at the Republicans lack of spending controls, spent more in 8 months than the Bush admin did in 8 years. Talk about your flaming hippocrites. Holy cow man. I guess they cant see the forest because of the tree’s.

        • 45caliber

          I agree with you. In fact, I was expecting to see the Republicans actually do away with a lot of the stuff that the Democrats set up that costs us so much such as overhaul the Welfare system and get rid of the Educational Department since it isn’t national business. They not only did not do that, they began to give themselves all the pork they could. Now the Dems are doing the same thing under the guise of ‘stimulus’ spending.

        • Bob

          Berberoni If you think Bush was a conservative and you love him you don’t realize that you are as liberal as he was.

          • 45caliber

            Who on Earth said I loved Bush? I certainly didn’t! But he was better than the other choices despite the lack of ability in him. I expected much better from him.

        • FuLL10

          Berberoni, I share your dissppiontment. Bush failed to put controls on the borders also. He lost his “Conservative” pin and joined with McCain on the new right handed, left leaning, semi-used-to-be- conservative, almost middle, self-serving plutocrats.

      • Steve

        Bush tried to get oversite on the libs spending, Fanny Mae & /Freddy Mac but the libs wouldn’t hear to it. They said everything was fine as frog hair….Barney Frank threw a fit.

        • Conservative at Birth

          I was actually stopped in the Senate by fillabuster that Obama voted for.

          • Conservative at Birth

            In 2005

        • BigBadJohn

          Lib’s spending?

          As everyone here likes to point out only congress can spend. Who controlled congress from 1994 to 2006?

          As far as the financial crisis again who controlled congress? there is plenty of blame to go around for both parties – but who controlled congress and senate and presidency for that matter.

    • Don

      Body counts are meaningless. We counted bodies during the war in Vietnam and where did that get us. You have to be able to hold territory to win wars. We haven’t been very good at that for the loast 50 years.

    • Bob

      JMR If you were paying attention months ago our troops were moved out of the cities and to the south. That’s why we don’t have any casualties.

    • Charlie

      Cause Bush made a big mess in 8 years.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Bush-Cheney-Halliburton, Bush-Cheney-Halliburton. Dude, your guy has had two years now, and has done nothing but provide lawyers to the terrorists we catch and to imprison our soldiers for killing these same terrorists. Then announce to them when we are leaving. Then not talk to the guy in charge of the war for 6 weeks at a time, then firing him for telling the truth about it. They have made it their mission to make this whole think in Iraq collapse so that they can continue their sad little kid game of pointing the finger and blaming others, and your sad sack is the same as them. When does it come time for Obama to be held responsible for what he is doing and for what he hasnt done? When? My God man, when Bush took over a huge recession from Clinton, he never once stood up and pointed the finger. Not once. He rolled up his sleeves and went to work. I suggest your boy do the same thing. Only you and I both know that isnt going to happen. Like you, he is content to blame others. Shame on you all.

    • http://cox.net Patsy

      We don’t have to defend Bush any longer, Odumbo is on the same page they have been in this together for years. There is NO dem or Rep. it’s all just Goverenment. And they are our greatest problem.

    • http://eddie47d eddie47d

      Iraq War;Bush 4,215 troops dead Obama;196 dead. Civilians killed Bush;108,621 Obama;3,825

      • FuLL10

        edie47d You have set a new benchmark for being myopic (Unable to see anything except what is immediately in front …extremely limited with no peripheral (side) vision.

        Bush in for 8 years
        Barakma in for less that 2 years.. See any difference there?
        What a maroon!

        The real issue here is that there are dead… too many dead. I can’t decide if I should be thankful that the government media is not now still joyfully reporting the ugly toll, (seemingly so because it was “Bushs’ fault”). Today of course the ugly toll is marked against Barakma. Keep counting eddie if that’s what pleases you… it’s not over yet.

        A nation that persists in killing its’ unborn in the name of “choice” is doomed to continue to suffer in such manner.

        • Lubo

          WOW!!! I give that a FULL10! Perfect!

        • Lubo

          Full10…. also, don’t waste your time….ole eddie believes in “Global Warming”…obviuosly he don’t understand basic 8th grade math!

        • eddie47d

          Full 10; More like a half a deck! You’re partially correct in that Bush was in office for 8 years>Yet you blame Obama for everything in less than 2 years. Go rattle your cage maybe someone will let you out.

  • Ray

    Can Obama handle adding another major front by attacking Iran? He’s already struggling with three, Afghanistan, what’s left in Iraq, and Arizona.

    • http://cox.net Patsy

      Yea, he has now brought Arizona up on charges with the UN. How dare the people in Arizona be concerned about drugs and drug wars. Who do they think they are, Americans.

      • Kinetic1

        No, neither the President or anyone else has brought Arizona “up on charges.” Th U.N. has a Human Rights Council established in 2006. All member nations are required to submit evaluations of their own human rights records. We were up for review, and as part of our review we wrote

        “A recent Arizona law, S.B. 1070, has generated significant attention and debate at home and around the world. The issue is being addressed in a court action that argues that the federal government has the authority to set and enforce immigration law. That action is ongoing; parts of the law are currently enjoined.”

        That’s it! No one asked the U.N. to pass judgment or take action. It’s not as if we could have just left this information out of such a document. The whole world is aware of what is going on here. Of course when you get your news from Michele Malkin, it looks like this,

        “No one should be surprised, of course, that the Department of Blame America First is prostrating itself before the likes of repressive U.N. Human Rights Council members Libya, Cuba, Saudi Arabia and China.”
        Put like that it’s no wonder you’d get bent out of shape.

  • Nick

    The last depression ended with WW2. So why can’t we end this one with WW3?

    • http://cox.net Patsy

      We will that’s the plan!

    • DaveH

      Unfortunately, Nick, too many people think that way. Wars boost economies only in the sense that people become mobilized to be more productive. But, there are much better ways to boost economies, like getting the Government out of the Marketplace. Wars waste financial resources. Wars waste natural resources. The only group that Wars are really good for is the Political Class who benefit by being able to increase Government’s size and power.
      Our Middle East involvement is a contributing factor to our current economic downturn.

  • wasadoc

    There will be nothing left after WW3

    • Nick

      Extinction is forever

      • Craig

        Since 95% of all species that have roamed this earth have gone extinct, it is also inevitable. With extinction comes new species vying to take over where the others failed. Kinda cool the way nature works.

  • bob

    wars and rumors of war…..the signs are there so be prepared!

    • Dave

      Give war a chance.

      • Bob

        Dave Another armchair Rambo. Go get im big guy.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Only through war, does peace come. The liberals fight me on this, but history is history, and they cant change that fact, that through war, we achieve peace. Its been that way forever. If you dont stand up for what is right and fight for it, your not going to have it long at all.

        • tg7357

          The left keeps forgetting that if it wasn’t for war, they would be goose-stepping to the Horst Wessel and probably working in a coal mine in West Virgina for the greater good of the Party. Or going kamakazi for whoever happens to be the current emperor.

          • DaveH

            TG, I don’t know what the outcome would have been if we hadn’t gotten involved in WWII. Nobody does. Maybe Russia and Germany would have decimated each other (that would have been a good thing). Who really knows?
            What I do know is that after the socialist creep Hitler subjugated Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Poland, and others, we lazily let them become subjugated by the Communist Russians after the war. Were we really fighting for Freedom? It would have taken very little effort (compared to that of stopping the Germans) to give those countries back their Freedom, instead of turning them over to the Russians.
            Our entry into most Wars was preceded by a lie to rally the American people. If the cause is so noble, why must the leaders lie?

          • http://eddie47d eddie47d

            Few wars are “good” wars so get a grip.

  • john

    We need to get out of the U.N and then kick their ass out of our nation.As for Iran,this thorn should have been dealt with back when the shah was being overthrown..now that we’ve let this sore fester look at the cancer it has spread..this is the root of Islamic fervor.Iran is the one that funds Hezbollah,Hamas,and the insurgency in Iraq..this whole Islamic revolution that has given rise to Al Qaeda and Islamic extremism comes from Iran… our jellyfish of a president needs to do the right thing and invade Iran not to save face but to cut off the head of this Islamic beast that feeds all of these other terror groups.But being the limp wristed leader that he is he’ll probably just let us continue to be bitch slapped around by our enemies in the diplomatic arena as he’s done since taking office.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I agree. Throw the UN out, and make them pay their unpaid parking tickets on the way. Then put the smack down on Tehran, Im talking a big banger, then ask them if they have any other questions. That is the only language they are going to understand. And thats the truth. To some it may seem awful and nasty, but its the God’s honest truth. If you want them to listen, you must speak their language. Im for dropping a big one and leveling Tehran. End of problem. You dont think that wont get North Korea’s attention real fast also? I think they would come away with a different point of view real quick.

      • tg7357

        I think the perfect place fo ra new Un Headquarters is downtown Tehran.
        When the Israelis get ready to settle Ahmadenijahd’s tab, they can fix the UN on the overflight, too.

        • 45caliber

          To be honest, I believe the UN should be moved to some island somewhere. Then no one can easily spy on another’s country that way. At the moment I’d bet at least half the staff at every embassy in New York/Washington are spies in their real jobs.

      • http://none Alex

        Amazing how Babbleroni always invokes the name of God in her screeds about dropping atomic weapons. No God or Gods would ever stand for that, therefore you stand, along with most of this nation, with Evil.

    • http://eddie47d eddie47d

      john; Your history is a little off so can I bitch slap you?

    • Sam

      John, [offensive term removed]. U R the beast. I can see hatred is coming out of your mouth. Go wash it and stop spreading poison, U R nothing but an a christian extremist

      • spike

        How is ANYTHING HE SAID CHRISTIAN? Extremist, maybe. Christian, not.

    • Lubo

      John…well put!

  • tg7357

    I missed the speech last night: did Obama do anything but run laps and yak like he always does? Anything of any substance come out of the teleprompter?

    • Henry

      He really should be writing notes on his hands.

  • http://ByGeorge George McClellan

    It is not important that the United States win a war with Iran. It’s only important, by George, that the United States destabilize Iran by taking out a major portion of their infrastructure, i.e.: power stations, transmission lines, water treatment plants, road bridges, and their one oil refinery. These are basically undefended targets, the Iranian thinking being that the rectors and military installations would be the main targets and thus, highly defended. Too, their silly cruise missil and miniature submarines will be dealt with in mere minutes after commencement of hostilities. Those are silly toys in the hands of silly warriors.

    Most Iranians are still western oriented and do not want to return to a12th century life style. The people will then have an opportunity to take over their government again.

    • Jimmy

      Yeah then the Taliban can move in and have nukes.

      Really smart.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The taliban is pretty much wiped out these days.

      • Conservative at Birth

        The Taliban are not Persians, and I believe they are in Pakistan right now, along with the area bordering Packistan.

      • Wlmitch1

        The Taliban were ruling Afghanistan, not Iran. Their remnants, along with al-Qaida, are in Afghanistan and in the parts of Pakistan immediately adjacent to the Afghanistan-Pakistan border.

    • 45caliber

      “take over their government again” ???

      They never had control of it to begin with. Ever.

  • Eve

    To those who question Obama’s religion. The Washington Post had a video of Obama doing the Islamic Morning Prayer in his Senate office. “The rising sun shone through his window making a halo around his head”. This was when he was running for President of the United States. They said it was too controversial to run and that they would after he was elected. They still haven’t. Obama himself while in the Middle East professed to be Muslim or ‘have Muslim roots’. I believe if his college records and essays were released we would have a better understanding of the president and his true beliefs stated before he had to present an acceptable face to the American people. We have read Michelle’s and we know she believes in redistribution of wealth etc…

    • James

      I also saw videos of Obama doing the sign of the cross.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Why? He isnt Catholic, so it must have been for show.

      • Sam

        i think he is a looser

      • spike

        you can pray on a mat, or do the sign of the cross, that doesn’t make you Christian, or Muslim. I said it once, I’ll say it again: They took what they liked out of all the religiousness they have been exposed to, and that appeases them, and their constituants. He isn’t a Christian, that’s for sure; and he’s probably only a muslim elbow rubber. If he were a Muslim…well…if he is…we’ll be finding out the hard way.

    • Wanda Murline

      Yes, we would… and you know what, we could also see that he has no birth certificate where he as born in Hawaii….all of this is kept quiet to keep us from throwing him out of he inelligible office and putting him on trial for Treason. If he is not a natural born citizen, he is ineligible for office so anything this idiot signs into law will become null and void…we must get this records released, so we can find out if we have a chance to throw the bum out before 2012.

      • Don

        Ho Hum. How come Hilary didn’t out him during her run for President?

        • Ned

          I liked Edwards cause he had a love child.

          • libertytrain

            Gee Ned – love child? Man cheats on cancer-suffering wife cause he feels he needs to boost his extraordinarily selfish ego – gee, I don’t know if that’s a love child or a lust child.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Because she knew what a loser he is, and that after 4 years he is totally unelectable, then the democrats will throw him under the bus, and run Hillary in 2012. Its not as far fetched as you think. Ive been saying it awhile, and I do not believe this guy will be running for re-election.

          • 45caliber

            I believe you are right. He is meant to be a one-term-?? so he can get some stuff like the healthcare bill passed. They know that many of the things they want we don’t want. So he goes and they bring in Hillary – except all she will do is stall so all his stuff gets done.

        • tg7357

          She didn’t out him because the Democratic leadership wouldn’t let her.
          Outing Obama would also mean out them, because they didn’t check his bonafides, or if they did, chose to ignore them. Hillary got her Christmas present (oohh—hate speech!! I said ‘Christmas’) early with the Sec of State job. Payoffs don’t always have to be in cash, you know.

          • 45caliber

            The big argument against her last election was that she didn’t have any experience dealing with other countries. The Dems are trying to fix that.

    • marvin

      being unamerican is more of a concern to me for obama then his religion there are a lot of suppost to be christian that are citizens of the world like obama

      • 45caliber

        marvin:
        He can be a “citizen of the world”. I’m a citizen of the US and that’s what I want for President.

    • James

      Bush destroyed my wealth so Michele is out of luck.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Im wondering what you did wrong, because during the Bush years, my income came with one dollar of doubling itself. After a year of Obama, I took a 10 percent pay cut. Needless to say, Im not to happy with him, and either are the millions of unemployed who have watched him do absolutely nothing for the economy in two years. You hate Bush so much, let me enlighten you with the truth, and if you look back, you will see its true, because its history. When Bush took over from Clinton, we were in a major recession. In two years, the economy was flowing, people were working, the stock market was rising, and it was all good. A complete turn around in two years. So what the heck is Obama doing? Good question.

        • 45caliber

          Liberals only believe in revisionist history. You know, they rewrite the history books to show what they think really should have happened instead of what did happen.

          For all you Vietnam vets out there, take a look at your grandkids history books, particularly the high school books. The one I saw stated that the military lost the war in Vietnam but the heroic (their word) Senators managed to form a truce at the Paris Talks (they left out the word “Peace” in the middle there) to save the military. I seem to remember that they had arranged “peace in our time” and then pulled the military out. Once most were gone, the North invaded.

      • tg7357

        Wait until her husband comes after your 401K with the ‘automatic 401K’ deductions that force your administrator to investpart of your retirement in Treasury Bonds. You too will own part of the US trillions of dollar debt, as will any who still have a 401K left.

        • Bob

          They are going to invest public workers pensions in failed banks. Brother can you spare a dime.

        • 45caliber

          Sad but true. There is supposed to be between 4 and 6 trillion dollars in 401K’s. The government can’t stand to see retired people wasting it on themselves – particularly when they might be able to use it to buy more votes for the Dems.

  • Warrior

    No way O ever goes to war against Iran. Whatever happens in the next two years, he would rather lose the next election and leave the situation to the next person.

    • Tim

      Yeah, he learned that from the last guy.

      • Czanka

        TIM…SEEMS LIKE YOU & OTHERS (THE ZERO MAN & HIS LOCK-STEP MEDIA) FORGOT THAT IN 2006, THE HOUSE & SENATE BECAME JACKASS CONTROLLED!!
        THEN FRANK & DODD CAME OUT W/THE AMERI-DREAM PROGRAM TO ALLOW MINORITIES TO BUY HOMES WHETHER THEY COULD AFFORD THEM OR NOT, ESPECIALLY OR NOT! WE’VE SEEN NOTHING YET AS THE 7YEAR ADJUSTABLE RATE MORTGAGES ARE TO KICK IN SOON!! IT’S STILL THE ECONOMY STUPID!!
        GEORGE W. DIDN’T ALLOW ANY MORE HITS AT US BC HE WAS STRONG IN OUR DEFENSE! NOW WE HAVE THE ZERO MAN IN CHARGE WHO’S WAAAAY OVER HIS HEAD & CONFIDENT ENOUGH THAT HE CAN DO A MUSLIM PRAYER DAY & GET ON HIS KNEES W/50000 OF HIS REAL OWN KIND AFTER HE CANCELLED THE NAT’L DAY OF PRAYER…THE REAL THING WE CAN DO IS VOTE THE BASTARDS OUT & MAYBE SOME LAWYER OUT THERE CAN BRING IMPEACHMENT CHGS AGAINST THE ZERO MAN FOR WRITING/INVITING THE UN IN TO EXAMINE OUR HUMAN RIGHTS WHILE SENDING A COMPLAINT LETTER AGAINST ARIZONA WHO IS GUTSY & KNOWS
        WE MUST PROTECT OUR BORDER & DON’T GET ME STARTED ON THE MOSQUE!! 1 DEAR FRIENDS DIED ON 9/11…READ THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM…IT’S NOT RELIGION LIKE WE KNOW IT…IT’S A POLITICAL ENTITY WHO’S GOING BY THEIR BOOK, NOT OURS!! THE ZERO MAN TOOK A FALSE OATH AS NOTHING HE’S DONE IS PROTECT THE USA!!!!!

  • Jack

    “The Bipartisan Policy Center (BPC), a collection of neoconservatives, hawks and neoliberal interventionists, began calling on the President to make war preparations against Iran.”

    huh????

    I hope they and their patriotic loved ones enlist.

  • sgtgshel

    If Obama was in my foxhole–I’d kick him out!

    • tg7357

      If Obama was in my Zipcode I’d kick him out!!

      • marvin

        he is in your zip in nov 2012

        • George

          Please!!!

          Put the Bush crooks back in.

        • tg7357

          Not true at all!! Obama is so far out in left field he has his own zipcode, area code and annual solar orbit. His planetary name is ‘Idonthaveaclue’ and the moons that orbit him are Pelosi and Reid, who also don’t have a clue!!

          • spike

            WELL SAID~~~

    • Craig

      Not me, Id blow smoke, to let the enemy know our position. Then step out for a potty break. BOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bye bye Marxist A-hole.

    • Marcus Aurellius

      If O was in my fox hole he and I would take out the enemy machine gun nest while you peed your pants.

      • JLC

        Marcus Aurellius — I have taken out an enemy machine nest! It is not as easy as you seem to believe!

        • 45caliber

          I agree. And it requires a lot more than racing forward with your guns blazing. Besides, the ones who talk a lot of this seldom perform in combat. They freeze up or get deer fever.

      • Craig

        Obamma is a panzy. He would have cowered in the foxhole with a rather large load in his pants.

  • patrick

    Did anyone who watched the idiot in the White House give his decietfull speech last night see how it was written to make it look like Obammy boy did all the right things just before the next election? What a sad joke and waste of our time Obammy… you phony muslim! Bush was the one that made this a success… not you or your child like czars dummies! Obammy boy, you are so slick, but you stupid idiot, do you really think we the people don’t have brains? We can see through your phony speech and how your writers suriptiously worded the speech to glorify and make it sound as if all the credit should go to you. I don’t think you deserve to use my used toilet paper to blow your big nose. Just get out of our country, you have caused great turmoil and your disease is spreading and if you are left to occupy any space on land in the United States, we all can only see, our lives as we know it, will end if you are allowed to stay. Move on sonny to a friendly muslim slum far from America~

    • http://eddie47d eddie47d

      Obama actually praised Bush in the speech and thanked him for his support and loyalty for the troops. You kind of left that out Pat.

      • Craig

        If that was what you call praise. You have no clue of the meaning of the word. The only reason he put that bit about Bush was because people had been asking when is he ever gonna give credit for the surge working? Bush knew the surge would work. They wanted Oidiot to tell the truth, (Oidiot is incapable of telling the truth) he voted against it and said it would not work, and admit he was wrong.

        • eddie47d

          I would have voted against that war also. You Bush loving sorehead.

  • Wanda Murline

    Iran, like China, has a vast majority of people who would like nothing better than to overthrow the government. They have been killed for protesting an election that was corrupt and their voices not heard…you know like the US right now. It could be the deal that the people who want freedom could strike against the snake that has them coiled in oppression. Although they are Muslim, the Iranian
    people would like more freedoms from this regime. However, if we would just stay out of the way, Israel will take care of Iran and they won’t write stupid rules of engagement for their soldiers like the US…casualties of war will not impact Israel…they know how to fight and win unlike the US. The politicians with no military experience will not be running the war like America. So sit back and watch…Armagedonnut has the “little man’s” attitude, just like Hitler.

    • tg7357

      What you say is very true, and hopefully some nation will help the Iranians who want to be free: as long as it doesn’t involve the CIA such an attempt would probably be successful. But with the Bay of Pigs in mind, I just don’t think American Covert Ops is a good choice for ramrodding such an event.

      • 45caliber

        Personally I think the CIA should be used for only one purpose – the gathering of information. It seems that every time they want to get creative they screw it up.

  • J.M.R.

    THE ONLY PART OF THIS COUNTRY THAT WILL BE SAVED IS THE PART THE FIRST DICK-TATER IS IN.

    • 45caliber

      Basically you are right. There are only a few sites in the US that are “hardened”. Washington is one.

  • Don Lee Bunner

    IF I HAVE BEEN INFORMED CORRECTLY WE HAVE THE ULTIMATE WEAPON TO CREATE A CRIPPLING DISASTER AND SHUT DOWN THEIR ENTIRE ELECTRICAL GRID AND CREATE A WEATHER WIND STORM AND SAND BLAST THE ENTIRE NATION DOWN IN DUST…SO WHAT IS ALL THE TALK ABOUT A NUCLEAR OPTION BEING OUR ONLY OPTION TO WIN THIS WAR…

    • marvin

      it is called a mpw ,will knock out all computer run equipment

      • http://eddie47d eddie47d

        Something like that would effect our nation far more than their’s and what goes around comes around.

        • 45caliber

          You are correct. Europe and the US would be far more vulnerable.

    • steelmagnolia

      Few people are aware that we’ve HAD for years the ability to
      change weather patterns and change men’s minds to resemble beasts, and change the beasts minds to kill, but not for food.

      Now imagine that this weapon is in O.’s hands, as it is. IF you have to be told to pray, PRAY that Americans will fall on their knees and ask forgiveness for their hatred of the One True G-d, not the Muslim god.

      Have a good day! Today is the beginning of the rest of your lives.

      • 45caliber

        We’ve had the ability to set off earthquakes since the ’60′s at least. In fact, I was told in the army then that if they set off underground nukes at three locations in the world in a certain sequence they can trigger almost all the fault lines in the world at the same time. True or not? No one is talking now.

    • 45caliber

      Don:
      An EMP wave (an electro-magnetic pulse wave) will overload and destroy any electronic device. Not necessarily electrical devices. For instance, our cars now have computers that basically run the ignition. If that computer goes out, the car is useless until it is replaced. And it does NOT need to be running to be burned out – so any replacements within the area will also be of no use. But a car from the ’60′s for instance does not have electrics and would continue to work. EMP is not directly dangerous to life itself. You’d never feel it.

      The problem is that most of our civilized world depends upon electronics. Power generators use it to control their operation. Cars use them. Planes use them. Transistors use micro-watts of power. The EMP will overload and burn them out – even if they are not powered at the time. Other things like diodes would also burn up.

      These can be created by a nuclear explosion. If it is high in the air, it can cover a wider area than a ground burst will. I seriously doubt if one explosion will shut down the entire US as the MSM tries to say but we can assume that it will knock out areas several hundred miles across. EMP waves can also come from the sun. I believe the last major wave from the sun hit the Earth (Canada area) back in the 80′s and shut down a lot of the power for awhile. Many astronomers are afraid we are again entering such a phase of the sun. If our country is turned toward the sun when that occurs, we go down.

      The problem is that when it hits it shuts down all electrical power since it burns out the electronics that controls the generation. Where will you get your water from after the tower is drained? Water is provided by pumps. The pumps are controlled by electronic devices and are powered by electricity. Vehicles are down so you can’t use them to go somewhere else. Do you live near enough to a natural water source to get water? Do you have any way to get to it other than walking? Even a bicycle is better than walking. How would you transport the water back? What about food? Most homes have only a week’s worth of food and stores generally stock only about 3 days worth of food. So when it runs out, no more will be coming in. What do you eat? Each other? (Some will certainly try.)

      One way to protect against EMP is to shield the electronics. Washington is shielded, at least around the government buildings. It is also possible to use vacumn tube technology from the 50′s and 60′s since they handled a lot more power. I know that the space program has looked into making and useing vacumn tubes because it can handle much more but I don’t know how prevalent they are. Certainly not in the civilian use.

      Since much of Iran doesn’t even have power, such an impulse there would only affect the larger towns to any extent.

      The real fear in bombs is neutron bombs – and I suspect we have those too although no one really talks about them. They put out a radiation that kills all life – but doesn’t harm the infrastructure. So you could drop one and a week later move in to use whatever is there.

  • Don

    You haven’t been informed correctly!

    • Bob Lewis

      Another great speech by Obama.

      • Craig

        If saying nothing is the measure of a great speech, then yes it was.

  • mj

    I am in awe of seeing prophesy unfold. In all of this, remember what Christ said, ” your faith will save you”.

    • Morgan

      Amen

  • BABUSHSKA

    The more talk bandied about so nonchalantly regarding the use of nuclear options against Iran, the more desensitized we all become about the horror of its “assured destruction”, the deaths of tens of millions of people, and the ecological damage to the surrounding regions, and ultimately worldwide. Not only would nuclear and thermal radiation kill, burn and sicken its victims, but winds would also blow fallout into surrounding regions where US troops are stationed, sickening them, rendering them incapable of combat. What then? A massive evacuation home of sick and dying U.S. soldiers? A scenario that would be a nightmare. As the mother of a soldier who was deployed for a second tour of duty to Iraq just 8 days ago amidst Obama’s hurrah of ending combat missions there, please remember to pray for the 10s of thousands of troops who are still being deployed to replace those coming home. They are and will remain, combat ready.

    • Bob

      That’s not counting hundreds of thousands of mercenary contractors who will bring martial law to the US. They are practicing in Iraq.

    • Conservative at Birth

      We will pull them out before. Only the troops in Afghanistan could be affected.

    • 45caliber

      Babushska:
      The knowledge of nuclear attacks needs to be updated.

      A “dirty” bomb – even if it isn’t nuclear – spreads the radiation problems. That is basically what we fear from Iran. They take spent uranium rods meant for fuel (or even new ones) and attach them to some standard explosive that will blow particles all over the area.

      But the nuclear explosions basically use the uranium to become something else. There is radiation released but after about two days it is safe. And even staying in your house is good enough to protect you from most radiation – as long as your house is still standing, of course. So modern nukes will NOT poison the world for all times as you mentioned and many people fear. Actually biological weapons (such as smallpox) is far worse and far longer-lived.

  • Brad

    After reading this article it’s hard to conceive a war with Iran, even if it does come to fruition a limited engagement is futile in it self. Obama will keep the US engaged in Afghanistan for the long term because there is no end in site, we need a strategy that weeds out the Taliban and Al-Queida fighters and protects the civilian populace until the Afhgan government can take over. In today’s politics, it would be political suicide for Obama to even contemplate war with Iran, he would rather compromise with them which shows weakness to the Iranians and muslim country’s around the world. That is reason why Obama is weak on foreign policy matters, he apologizes and doesn’t know how to confront with proof. He just doesn’t know how to be strong and stand up for his country, which he swore an oath to uphold and protect the US and constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic.

    Oh no, the Obama administration through the US AG would rather sue the the state of Arizona because they where cleaning up the borders and rounding up all illegals in their state. Oh then Obama going to the UN and mentioned the state of Arizona and it’s new law as part of the so called human rights violations we the US (so called) have committed around the globe. This president has to go, he has stepped on the constitution, bill of rights, and continues to form his socialist government take over. When is he going to be impeached, probably never, the house is gutless and the senate would never convict one of their own.

    The deeper question is, does the US as a whole consider going to war with Iran is in the best interest of our country. My answer is no; I believe that Iran will implode upon its self in time, now my answer may not please some or even all here but it’s my honest answer to the question.

    • 45caliber

      I agree with what you are saying. But Oblama is a liberal – and liberals want to be friends with everyone. The problem is that they believe that we MUST have done something to offend them, even though we don’t really know what it was. Therefore we should apologize for it in an attempt to make them realize we do want to be friends and then fall back on their old stand-by of giving them money. After all, if we give them money wouldn’t they want to be friends with us?

      But it never works for bullies in school and it doesn’t work to buy friends in other countries either. All it does is encourage them to demand more and fills them with contempt that we would do so. They used to call it paying “tribute”. And that is exactly how the other countries consider our “foreign aid”.

  • Raggs

    oabam will not stop Iran, there is no way Russia and China will let the US take military action against Iran even if they do develope nuclear weapons…. Persia must fullfill the bible….

  • REM

    Well, it looks like a lot of arm chair generals have commented on this one. For those who have never spend a second in combat boots let alone been in them in actual combat. Here is a little bit of education for you. The United States of America’s military is streached so thin at the preasent that any other front would require the instatution of the draft for personnel to be fed into that meat grinder. That would mean your precious little Johnny or Jill would be inducted for the durration, however long that that would be. It may even mean that your sorry excuses of fair weather patriotism may even have to spend some very dangerous and at times horrable days humping a 90 pound ruck and toting an M4 carbine killing, yes I said killing other humans so you are not the one that is killed. IS THAT WHAT YOU IDIOTS WANT. I have been a soldier for the major part of my adult life, since 1979 and I have seen the effects of warfare in four countries of this world, the last being Afghanistan. Believe me when I tell you this. You do not want to go to war in any other theater and should all be calling for the end of conflict in all others that are operating at this very moment. With that rant I will end this with, why don’t we repair our own country and state of affairs and stay out of foreign intreges that will just drag our Republic down further and further to ultimatly cause all of us to be enslaved if not dead.

    • sunrise

      Yes REM, thank you for your service, and your wisdom! And I mean that from the bottom of my heart, but what about the fact that this man and this country have only one objective, destroy Israel and destroy us??? Do we just sit here and let him nuke us?

      • http://eddie47d eddie47d

        Iran can’t nuke us and has no intention of doing so. Stop threatening Iran and maybe they wouldn’t be bad mouthing us so much. I don’t trust China but I’m not egging them on for war. Not everyone who doesn’t have our lifestyle is the enemy.

    • Conservative at Birth

      Do we pull out of Korea, Japan, Germany, and all of the other places that have kept an uneasy peace for 50 years? Do we do nothing in the defense of Israel?

  • jcarroll

    ALL YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET REAL< EVEN THE LYING LIBS. OBADMA IS FOR SURE A MUSLIM. READ THE KORAN. IT PLAINLY SAYS "LIE< CHEAT,STEAL OR ANYTHING TO HELP islam IS OK. AND IF WE ARE NOT ONE OF THEM—-JUST KILL US. IF YOU DON"T BELIEVE THIS, SEE HOW THEY KILL EACH OTHER WHEN THEY DON'T AGREE..OBADMA'S SIDE OF muslims DON"T LIKE IRAN"S SIDE. HOW SIMPLE…SAVE YOU GUNS, WE WILL NEED THEM

  • Jim

    The Arabs are big blowhards! Remember Saddam with “The Mother of All Wars?! Palestine on the invasion by Israel “Palestine will be the graveyard of the invaders!” Both got their butts kicked and their troops were running away, throwing down arms and surrendering when the chips were down.
    Iran will have to screw up really bad for the U.S. to attack them. The Americans are tired of sending their men and wowmen in to the meatgrinder. Keep ‘em home, use them at the borders and the enemy can’t get in. But, the government with it’s ignorance of the real intent of Islam in America has taken the Trojan Horse thru the gates.
    So, why would Iran attack? Why would any Muslim nation attack when all they have to do is come here legally, breed like rats and in time have the numbers to do as they wish. The one thing they have is persistance and time and they will use it unless we wake up and stop with the politically correct crap and start to use some common sense.

  • sunrise

    Yes, as nice as it sounds to just “poof” the Iranian nuclear capabilities away, it would cause great destruction to many innocent people, and then that would make us just like them wouldn’t it. I do not believe we should be in Iraq, but I do believe in hunting down Osama and Saddam to stop them from hurting many many more peoples. These men and their power trips and wargames. I think the “leader” of Iran should be restrained also, but that doesn’t mean we can do it. No easy answers, but I agree with comment above, that Israel will take care of this mess, we just need to back them up when they do. Our so called pres is hell bent on destoying America anyway, that is his agenda. If I wasn’t a Christian my reaction would be much different, but being one I know that nothing will be okay till the one and only righteous King is in place, and one thing a Christian can say is We were born for such a time as this! Pray pray pray

  • Tom

    I do not — i.e., cannot — believe the drivel that comes out of the mouths of American patriot-citizens, on the left and the right. In the comments I just read, those on the right spout irrelevant, stupid, illogical, and childish accusations at the left (especially Pres. Obama) and those on the left go on the defensive with equally silly comments. When internet blogs and comments first started the comments were at least interesting and often amusing. The comments have, in most cases, been reduced to simple rants and name calling. What’s next?

  • jopa

    Raggs; Russia and China have joined the rest of the nations that have an embargo on Iran.They are against the actions of some of the radical leaders but the civillian population embrace American culture.There are a few people here saying it takes guts to attack Iran, but actually it takes mostly stupidity like a former administration.One poster said bush should have the credit for Iraq,he can have it there was no victory there just a disaster.

    • tg7357

      Those American troops who set Iraq free might disagree with you on that. But it isn’t something we ever expect a liberal to own up to: the invasion of Iraq set a nation free. What they do with that freedom is up to them, but there aren’t very many other nations in the world that can lay claim to liberating another nation.

  • RCGuy45

    If the US has to go to war with Iran use an EMP device, we would only need one, it takes out all their electronic devices but doesn’t kill any one. By the way if their nuclear reactor is up and running you may want to watch out for that mushroom cloud.

    • 45caliber

      Sorry but you have the wrong idea of nuclear plants – just like a large portion of the US does.

      There are two types of nuclear plants – fusion and fission. The type used for energy does NOT explode. It cannot. At most it can overheat due to a lack of coolant and melt but it cannot explode. If it melts it MIGHT contaminate some land around it because they would be melting Uranium and scattering it as a vapor but it wouldn’t go far. Less than 20 miles. With the types of safeties they have now, they can instantly flood the power room with water to help keep the temperature down and they don’t need to manually pull the rods that heat the water – it is automatically done with any loss of power.

      The ones that blow up are not used. They can actually take weak uranium and make it stronger. It was discussed at one time making one to regenerate the spent fuel rods in the rest but the politicians didn’t want to take a chance on it.

    • 45caliber

      And EMP wave is a way to take down an electronic culture. Most of Iran is NOT. So using one probably wouldn’t do much good there. I don’t know since I’ve not been to Terhan to see how much they use there. The countryside wouldn’t even know there was a problem.

  • http://jackhabitt@yahoo.com Jack

    Transition the exiting troops along the entire southern boarder of the U.S. It will be a nice transition home. Literally stop the drug industry and the arms exchange. End all imports of muslim citizens to the U.S. as this was caused by the IT industry. Let’s get back to education young and old. Export all Mexicans and their families who can’t prove daily employment. Do this humanely. Export all Iranians as they are the real enemies of the America and the actual internal threat most feared by all security agencies. Take a close look at all foreign students and stop universities from grown simply based on educating our enemies. Threaten exist of the UN with monetary teeth until it is reformed or exit altogether. Set three term limits and your out for the house, the senate, all state and local position. Make it punishable for prior elected officials to represent any foreign country. Make a definitive law either all people receive the health benefits of the political elite or eliminate the benefit. Make it law anyone who owns a home has to do their own lawn care and if they are too old sick or disabled their neighbors will do it for them.

    • ValDM

      Lawn care? REALLY?????
      What planet do you hail from, stanger?

    • 45caliber

      I don’t necessarily agree with all your suggestions but I do most of them. At least you are willing to suggest something; the liberals always fail to do that. But then … they only parrot what some liberal hack tells them is true.

    • eddie47d

      Jack; Troops who are brought home should go straight to their loved ones and then to American bases. Let those non-combat troops on these bases rotate to the border if needed. Iranians aren’t anyones enemy unless you want them to be. All nations create enemies for many reasons and we are no exceptions. Maybe next week Greece will be the enemy of the month!

  • Commonsense

    I don’t give a fart in a whirlwind what religion the man is, his politics are crap and he is a self serving schmuck! Anybody who cheers on his practices of dissing the U.S.A. and refusing to help states in guarding their borders, is nothing short of a blind, need-a-handout, not-a-hand-up, waste of time! This page can waste its time talking about his religion, and none of you will look at what he is doing to everyday Americans! Hell, his religion is the last thing I worry about. The man is a, pompous, rude, America-hating, money grubbing piece of trash. He’s treated his presidency as some sort of “I want to do everything ass-backwards from the way I was asked to.” You guys can harp on his religion, but it boils down to-He’s crap for this country. It is like pouring gas on a fire. And all you lefties out there who point at Bush and say” it was his fault, just remember, the spending only increased when Obama got in. So he is just a black Bush if you really want to get down to the basics. I don’t know how you guys can’t see this, but, THEY ARE ALL CROOKS!!!!!!!! From your local politicians all the way up to Obama, so quit saying one is better than the other, thats just crap. A spade is a spade. The buearacracy is so bloated that it has finally reached all levels of government. To stand up for any politician at this point would be like trying to justify all of Ted Bundys or Jack the Rippers actions.

  • Joseph

    The neocon Israeli firsters are not giving up. They are planting phony stories in the press about Iran’s atom bomb capabilities. If Obama is stupid enough then he will act like his predessecor and he will see what the invasion of Iraq brought America and his presidency. How will a criminal aggressive war on Iran help our economy ? It will not ! We will be borrowing more money to destroy Israel’s enemy, not our enemy.
    When will the leaders step forward and buck the criminal Israeli first lobby ? Are there any brave men out there ? Are they just stooges like George Bush and stooges who pretend not to be stooges like Dick Cheney ?

  • http://BuddyLogan.com Buddy Logan

    John -
    You should stick to forecasting oil and gold trends.
    We are not going to war with Iran, and it would not be a win-win situation for Obama or any future president. Furthermore, your statement, speaking of the people of Iran that “… the great majority of them [are] religious zealots who would throw themselves in the face of a foreign invasion”, shows that you have little understanding of the people of Iran.

    Have you talked with any of the citizens of Iran? A great number of them are more pro-U.S. than they are pro-Ahmadinejad. The “majority” are in the middle and not drawn whatsoever by extremist positions. They want a good job, a nice home and a comfortable living in a democratic society. Unfortunately, we have created the perception, among many, that the U.S. endorses authoritarian regimes and does not support Muslim democracies.

    Ahmadinejad is right. The Israelies will not attack without the permission of the U.S. If that were not so, they very well may have performed an air strike before this nuclear plant became active. Likewise, if Obama wished to attack, that would have been the time to do it. Now that the plant is active, such an act would be an extremely dangerous political move. It would not only set the people of the country and the region totally against us, but would be condemned throughout the rest of the world (with the exception, perhaps, of the Marshall Islands and Palau).

    Of course we have a plan to attack Iran. We would be foolish not to. When you have erratic leaders like Ahmadinejad, it is only responsible to be prepared, but the idea that we would actually invade Iran without the instance of dynamic event on their part is pure nonsense.

    • 45caliber

      Buddy:
      Have YOU talked with them? Or are you taking the MSM version of things?

      During WWII the idea of invading Japan was frequently discussed. It was believed (probably rightly) that if we did invade the people there would form human shields for their soldiers to hide behind. Unarmed women and children would charge our lines to disrupt our soldiers.

      I suspect you will find the same thing if we invade Iran. They will do it not because they hate the US or like their government but because they are patriots and don’t want their country invaded.

      • eddie47d

        I don’t agree that Japan would have used human shields;at least with their own people. Then again I have never heard that rumor. Iran did use human shields when Iraq attacked them and I’m sure they would do it again. That is just knowing your adversary not an excuse to attack them. Nuclear inspectors are in Iran and as long as they remain I don’t believe they will be causing trouble for the world. If Iran kicks them out then I would be very suspicious.

        • 45caliber

          Japan did use some of their people on other islands as human shields; therefore the military assumed they would in Japan too.

          It was estimated that if we invaded Japan we would lose about 300,000 men. But they would lose about 1.2 MILLION people. That was why the A-bombs were used. They hoped to shock the Japanese into surrendering – which worked. As a result it is believed (at least in honest circles ) that the military saved about 300,000 Americans and about 1.1 million Japanese lives by dropping the two bombs despite what the revisionists would like you to believe.

          I suspect (rightly or wrongly but based on past situations) that Iran would be the same. Incidently, many of those unarmed human shields were Iranian students called home from colleges around the world after the Shah was kicked out. My cousin’s boyfriend was one of them. He managed to get a letter out after he went back but we never heard of him again.

        • Craig

          Jesus christ, you are an historical illiterate. The japs did use their own people as human shields. The Emperor called for every single Jap citizen to kill the Americans. To kill yourself and kill your enemy is a Jap honor thing. They are raised from birth with this honor code.

    • eddie47d

      I agree with you Buddy.

  • Mohammad

    I’m from Iran a muslim that practice Islam seriously, found this page that some foolish people talking about obama that he is muslim and is not christian! and about leaders of Iran that challenging to build nuclear weapon!

    in my opinion USA leaders and also Iran leaders both abusing foolish people of USA and Iran to empower their political and economical and military powers.
    the subject is war for power but for the foolish people of Iran or USA. they have to talk about religion to get support from their people for the money for the power and for the WAR !
    you never get out of foolish thought else learn that real religion means peace and honest and loving all of the world and fake religion means that war with other religions. not matter you are muslim or christian. many christians can be dangerous than a muslim and many muslims can be dangerous than christians. think a little and leave this foolish thought that obama is muslim or not! talk about the honest and real religion and how can find the GOD! the peace and love. islam is an arabic word that means peace and health but during these years changed to death and war! why you dont want to read something about islam or something in dept about real christian? the religion that you have in your hand is not the religion that jesus brings to you, the islam that mohammad bring to you is not the religion that Iran leaders talking about, all is that playing with peoples beliefs for the game of power and money.

    war will soon done between iran and USA if you want or not, because all of you dont like to know the reality of religion and reality of peace and Love. all of you believe that other religions are fake and your religion is real and true. the fact is that people must die to learn about religion and peace. I went to mountains waitiing for the WWIII and believe that WWIII soon willl start with both USA and Iran nuclear weapons to killl all of the foolish people that fighting with words of islam and christian that both are pointing to the same thing -> GOD,Peace,Love .
    yes peopple must killl and die too understand that there is no difference between Islam and Christian and the religion that world leaders introduced to the is not the religion that GOD introduced to them by sending messengers like Jesus or Mohammad.
    Good Luck.

    • Warrior

      Yes, and so the little despots beat their drums. Money + Power = Corruption.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      Moe; I guess you’re right about religious parity. Ours says love your neighbor, your’s says kill your neighbor. Yep, parity.

  • KATHY OUBRE

    I WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT ONE ITEM IN THE ARTICLE. WE HAVE 1.3 MILLION IN THE MILITARY. THAT IS A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN 450,000.
    I CAN ALSO TELL YOU WHAT A TRUE CHRISTIAN IS. JESUS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT NEVER SINNED; HE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD PAY OUR DEBIT FOR SIN. HE DIED ON THE CROSS FOR OUR SIN. TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN THE HOLY SPIRIT MUST DRAW THE PERSON, THE PERSON MUST BELIEVE IN THE WORK THAT CHRIST DID FOR OUR SALVATION ON THE CROSS. THEN IF THAT PERSON WILL ASK FOR FORGIVENESS AND THAT THEY WISH TO ACCEPT CHRIST AS SAVIOR, IT WILL HAPPEN. NOW LIVING THE CHRISTIAN LIFE IS ANOTHER STORY. ALL THIS DEPENDS ON THE KNOWLEDGE THE PERSON HAS IN THE WORD OF GOD AND HOW IT IS APPLIED TO THE LIFE.

    • 45caliber

      But doesn’t that include the National Guard? At the end of WWII it was decided to maintain an army capable of fighting two wars at the same time – without NG aid. That ended with Clinton. Right now we don’t even have enough to fight one war without NG help – and Oblama wants to cut it 25% more.

  • Docv

    To All , I have to say that I pray for this idiots safety …… beyond that , I don’t believe one word he says ….. that goes for most liberals too ! The DNC is not the same one that was in the 60′s….. the nuts have taken over the sanatorium …….. as far as religion is concerned, there is but only one God ….. he is called by many names but in the end we will all meet him on the other side …….. Brian

  • Dave

    i wish i could implement a new law that states that any AMERICAN CITIZEN seeking to become COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF shall have had active military duty to his/her country. this BS that is in place now,really pisses me off.

    • bobk90

      I couldn’t AGREE more with you Dave!!!!! I would take it one step further with a clause stating that you need to be a Combat Veteran or Deployed overseas supporting the Security of our Country!!For that Matter, have you read the book “Starship Troopers” ?? In the book, you to have Honorable Military Service to hold Office and even be able to Vote!!

      • 45caliber

        I’d like to insist that ALL national politicians had military training as part of the requirement to run for office.

      • eddie47d

        I don’t think it matters whether we have a military person as President. The President serves the nation and has control of the military not the military controlling us. Let’s keep it that way. Although military training is not a bad thing and should be encouraged.We certainly don’t need more of our armed forces overseas and they should only be here to defend America. Obama doesn’t want to go to war with Iran but is keeping all options open. We must be prepared for all scenerios.

        • 45caliber

          If the President would depend upon his generals to make war decisions, I would agree. But the ones without war experiences seem to feel that they can do a better job than the generals – and usually get more men killed as a result. In fact, I feel that several Presidents have been afraid that if the generals did do a good job it might make them look good to voters and deliberately set out to make them look bad by giving them bad orders. Truman comes to mind.

  • bobk90

    If it is TRUE that Obama is a Muslim, Ponder this: Obama who Opposed the War in Iraq from the beginning, must be a SUNNI Muslim!!! Of course, that was who held the Power there for years under Saddam. Obama’s Middle Name is ‘Hussein’ right & now it makes Sense!!!! So that EXPLAINS WHY Obama has no Problem in wanting to Wage War against IRAN, a SHITE Muslim Country!?!?! So the Plot thickens!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Mohammad

      please read more about Saddam, his name is Saddam ‘Hussein’ but saddam was not shi-ite, leave judgiing about people, leave talking about that obama is muslim or jew ! some people in Iran believe that obama are jew because defends USA and Israel jews rights! also obama’s first name ‘Barak’ is Hebrew name.
      but I never judge about obama’s religion. he may be jew or muslim, it is not important, because obama tells and decides everything that USA shadow government commands him. also i’m completely familiar with the Iranian leaders. they all even ahmadinedjad or leader of Iran ‘khamanei’ all acting what Iran shadow Government commands them. shadow government behind empowers from money and oil and gas and politics and abusing peoples movement searching the justice and religion.

      • coal miner

        Mohammad,

        Right,

        Meaning of What Does Name Barack (Baraka) Hussein Obama Mean What is Arabic Swahili Ancient Egyptian Hebrew Origin of Name Barak Semitic for Thunder Baraka Ancient Old Kingdom Egyptian for Soul Double of the Sun Barack Hussein Obama’s Name Impact on Favorable Opinions by Africans Islamists Muslims Anti Christian Jihad Movement Loves Barack Hussein Obama Name Significance from Archaic Times

    • 45caliber

      I have to admit that names are meaningless in most cases. They do not determine your actions. (Unless your name is “Sue” for instance.)

    • http://none Alex

      What’s in a name?

      By your silly and contrived logic, Abraham Lincoln was our first Jewish president and Warren Gamaliel Harding the first Pharisee to hold that office!

      Whatever noxious hole on Earth the Teabagger logic oozes from must be plugged.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        Ba-rack is arabian for sheep shit.

        • coal miner

          gunner689,

          The name Barack is Egyptian-Hebrew in orgin.

  • SAM

    It would be the biggest mistake in the WORLD

  • Alan

    There is an adage (I am not the attribution) stating: “never get in the way of a someone when they are committing suicide”.
    Unfortunately for us, Obama committing political suicide involves him pointing the gun at US.
    We are in the way of his dangerous politics whether we like it or not.
    We must be mindful of a politician intent on establishing a legacy at our expense.

  • 45caliber

    This is a dead serious question to all liberals on this thread. I really REALLY want to know your answers.

    Suppose a nation (such as England) had an argument going with Luxemburg. It esculated until England fired fifty nukes at Luxemburg. (I think one would be enough for the entire country but …) The United States detects them fired from England but has no equipment available to stop the nukes and it is too short a distance for us to use long-range stuff.

    All nukes land on Luxemburg. We either end up with a bubbling pit of glass or the world’s deepest lake (as soon as it gets water).

    The people in England (particularly London) are out in the streets in jubilation about their “victory” over their enemy.

    What should the US do?

    I really want answers to this. I suspect that within the next 50/100 years we shall have something like this somewhere in the world. The one using the nukes may be friendly (like in the example here) or our enemies – it doesn’t matter. We need to get these questions answered ahead of time so we will be ready for our response.

    What is yours?

    • 45caliber

      Not an answer, huh? Why not?

      • tg7357

        Oh, oh–pick me–45caliber!! Pick me! I have the answer!!!

        Obama will apologise!! Doesn’t matter who set what off first, Barky will step up to the plate and apologise!! And if he talks long enough, sooner or later it will the the fault of the US anyway!!!LOL!!!

        • 45caliber

          You may be right if it occurs now. I suspect it would happen years from now. But I would REALLY like some input from the liberals. I suspect I know what they will say – and I think they know it.

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            I know, I know !! The US. gvt. under liberal leadership will surrender to both sides, then send them trillions of dollars to rebuild. We’ll call it racist and send Jesse Jackass over to extort both sides. Then we’ll build a monument of two fags kissing and sing We are the World.

        • eddie47d

          You’re another i41!

          • eddie47d

            That was for Tg7357. Caliber; Wars are futile and even more now. Go after the powers to be whether that be exploitive corporations or exploitvive dictators. This talk of killing millions is insane especially by a civilized nation. Negotiate,Negotiate and press these these nations for the right resons. Not Nuclear power but demand accountbility for the Nuclear waste. I rather negotiate for years than have American troops in these nations for years. No one dies from confronting leaders one on one and laying all cards on the table. Since both Israel and the US has Nukes it’s hard for Iran to trust us. Our demands ring hollow.

          • 45caliber

            I’m afraid I must disagree about no one dying if leaders can meet. Chamberlain met with Hitler – and millions were killed because of the results. It depends upon the leaders making a mutual agreement but that seldom happenes – and many times one or the other will renig. And if the nukes have already been used what do you do then? Make a mild protest?

    • 45caliber

      Just to clarify my position on this if anyone bothers to check;

      If you try to negotiate or talk or place sanctions or anything else similar, the rest of the world will begin to use their own nukes in any war.

      The ONLY way to prevent it is to hit the person who used the nukes so hard with the same things that the rest of the world will notice and decide it isn’t worth the effort of using them. It means an automatic death sentence to use them. Sorry, but all you liberals failed.

  • http://none Mike

    Simple problem…. Crush this Enemy, see them driven before you and hear the danation of the women. Take control of Iran, Give it to the Jewish.
    Result: Cheaper Gas
    Continue to support Israel and have them wipe the desert with arab bodys (arab not capitalized intentionally)!!!
    Arab’s are Nasty people, they are deceatful, backstabbing and will befriend you in the day and slit your throat at night!

    • Sam

      u (not in capit..on purpose), r nothing but a murder. ARABS are much better than you, Bec they are at least humans, but u r NOT!!!

      • eddie47d

        Mike is more than a little extreme.

        • http://gunner689 gunner689

          i agree with Mike.

          • eddie47d

            Nothing startling there.

  • Mike

    An embargo is an act of war…they should roll over and play dead???would we? If I must take sides in a war, I will always be against the aggressor/invader.

    • eddie47d

      Then why do you want to be the invader?

  • http://www.haringenterprises.com bsharing

    I have a question. Did Obama register for the draft? Or is that record sealed also? It is still a law efor all US male citizens to register between the ages of 18 & 25. Is there anyway to check that out? If he didn’t, what was his stated reason? BTW, there are no exemptions from registering.

    • 45caliber

      The real question of his birth is: Is Oblama a nature-born citizen or not? If he is not, is his position of President illegal? If illegal, does that mean that anything he does or any orders he gives legal? Including the signing of bills Congress passes? If it comes out later that he was NOT a natural-born American citizen does that mean that all laws he signed are void?

      And if he is illegal what about his control of the nukes we have? If a war suddenly blew up and he ordered the use of them – or withheld the use while we were getting shot up – what would be the end result later?

      So far none of the libs have any answers to any of this.

      • tg7357

        The real problem is that if Obama is NOT a US citizen, then the democrats have created one gonzo of a Constitutional crisis. It was up to the DNC to vet this man before they put his name out to run as president, and if they did not, and he is not, then everything he has done is illegal. The Constitution doesn’t have a gray area about who can be president, and if the DNC sneaked a ringer in, all the stimulous loans, GM buyout, Cash for Clunkers, etc that he signed are as bogus as a $4 bill. That also means Biden is not eligible to be president, nor would Pelosi, if I am not mistaken because she is a democrat and as current Speaker, she wouold have to fall on her sword for the DNC.

        • 45caliber

          Pelousy had to sign a statement that the DNC had vetted him at the Convention. She did – twice. The first one said something about being a natural born citizen. The second one – the one they use – doesn’t say that. It was the only difference between the two. I saw copies of both right after the convention but haven’t seen them since. wnd.com had them at the time and probably still has copies if you ask.

        • 45caliber

          I agree that SHOULD be the case – but how do you go back to void everything when the money is already spent? You could void the healthcare bill because the money hasn’t been spent there yet but that is about all. It would make it simpler to ignore everything done and I suspect that Congress (both parties) will do just that. But if he does start a war or drop some nukes, there is no way to go back on that.

      • Wlmitch1

        Article II Section 1 Paragraph 5 of the U.S. Constitution States:

        “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen
        of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this
        Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;
        neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall
        not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been
        fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

        A natural-born U.S. Citizen is one whose parents, BOTH parents, are either Nutural Born U.S. Citizens, Native Born U.S. Citizens, or Naturalized U.S. Citizens at the time of one’s birth.

        Here are the facts: Barack Hussein Obama I, his father, was a Kenyan National, and NEVER a U.S. Citizen. Stanley Ann Dunham-Obama, his mother, was 19 years old at the time Barack Hussein Obama II was born. The Age of Majority in most States in 1961 was 21. She had left America either shortly before, or shortly after Barack was born. She was not old enough to confer U.S. Citizenship on her baby at the time of his birth. Barack I and Stanley Ann divorced when Barack II was two years. When Barack II was 6, Stanley Ann married Pak Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian Citizen. He acknowledged Barack II as his adopted son. Barack II was enrolled in a Catholic school as an Indonesian Citizen as Barry Soetoro. Two years later, he was enrolled in a Muslim school. When Barry wa 10, Lolo and Stanley Ann divorced. Barry was sent to Hawaii to live with his grandparents, the Dunhams.
        It is unknown when Barry Soetoro changed his name back to Barack Hussein Obama II. He would have had to renounce his Indonesian Citizenship by the age of 21 to be a U.S. Citizen.

        Barack Hussein Obama II is a Native Born U.S. Citizen at best, but NOT a Natural Born U.S. Citizen. So whether he was born anywhere in the U.S. or not, he is NOT a Natural Born U.S. Citizen.

        My maternal grandfather was born in East Chicago, Indiana on July 24, 1903 to Croatian Nationals who did not become U.S. Citizens until 1938. My grandfather was a Native Born U.S. Citizen, but NOT a Natural Born U.S. Citizen because his parents were NOT Naturalized U.S. Citizens at the time of his birth. My maternal grandmother was born on April 1, 1909 to Croatian immigrants. I do not know if her parents were Naturalized U.S. Citizens at the time of her birth or not. I know they were before they died. My maternal grandparents died 4 months apart in 1984.

        What do my grandfather and Barack Hussein Obama II have in common? Both were/are Left-wing Democrats, although Barack Hussein Obama II is MUCH more so; and neither of them were/are Natural Born U.S. Citizens, and therefore NOT Constitutionally eligible to run for, or hold, the Office of the President of the United States.

        • Wlmitch1

          One correction: Barack Hussein Obama would have had to renounce his Indonesian Citizenship before August 4, 1982, his 21st birthday, to be considered a Native Born U.S. Citizen. Otherwise, he would have to become a Naturalized U.S. Citizen BEFORE running for public office at ANY level of Government.

        • Wlmitch1

          The paragraph:

          A natural-born U.S. Citizen is one whose parents, BOTH parents, are either Nutural Born U.S. Citizens, Native Born U.S. Citizens, or Naturalized U.S. Citizens at the time of one’s birth.

          should read:

          A natural-born U.S. Citizen is one whose parents, BOTH parents, are either Natural Born U.S. Citizens, Native Born U.S. Citizens, or Naturalized U.S. Citizens at the time of one’s birth.

  • ONTIME

    Personally it would be wise to rid ourselves of this phoney ASAP, his leadership skill are as far fetched as his valid BC and his GPA. He is inaccurate in his statements, unable to cope with the issues in a normal adult way and has a low tolerance of any opposition, which indicates his intelligence level and confidence.

    RE-PARE AMERICA’S GOVERNMENTS…time to reinstall the hardware that makes us work

  • ken weible

    The USA has to get away from the idea of limited war.
    War is an immoral act in and of itself.
    War is brutal uncivilised destruction. It is not the best way to win the hearts of those you fight.
    When war becomes necessary for survival,its’ only justification is to win it.
    You win with shock and awe.
    You win with overwhelming force.
    You win by destruction and and killing everything that gets in the way of victory.This includes men, women, children, stray dogs and cats. If you are not prepared to do that your alternative is surrender.
    There is no civilised way to fight a war.
    Limited war sets your military up as targets for your enemy in a never ending shooting gallery.

    • 45caliber

      I agree. And surrender means slavery at the best. Perhaps our great-grand children MIGHT be accepted as citizens but that is doubtful.

      Hemingway was a mercenary. He fought for 30 years or so all over the world. His books were written between battles. When he was an old man a reporter asked him why he had risked his life fighting all over the world. Didn’t he know he could have been killed?

      His answer: “There are worse things than dying while fighting for freedom. And if you don’t fight for freedom you’ll learn what all those things are!”

      • tg7357

        Remember the old saying: Live on your knees or die on your feet.

  • Merl

    THE PLAN IS THAT IN LATE OCTOBER, ISRAEL WILL SEND A NUKE INTO IRAN.

    THEN ISRAEL WILL BE DESTROYED IN THE MIDST OF A WORLD NUCLEAR WAR.

    I AM INSIDE OF ALL GOVERNMENTS. WHEATHER OR NOT THIS WILL OCCUR ACCORDING TO PLANS IS NOT CERTAIN AT THIS POINT.

    ISRAELIAN BIG WIGS WILL BE GONE ON THAT DAY AND THEN THE WORLD CAN HELP THE ZIONISTS SUFFER BETTER THAN EVER IN PAST HISTORY.

  • SUE B

    Even Muslim fight each other and the SAUDIS WANT IRAN GONE TOO. The Saudi’s do not want to lose there power and Iran stands to do that.

    • 45caliber

      You are right. In fact the Saudis have hinted at allowing Israel to use its air space to attack Iran for that very reason.

      • Sam

        because saudis are traitors and hypocrits

        • 45caliber

          Well, I can’t really say they are traitors since they run their own country and don’t owe alligence to Iran. And since they are a different race, I can’t even say they are traitors to their own kind. Hypocrits? I’m not sure what you mean there. I assume you mean they are going against their religion. But their religion doesn’t say a thing about not attacking others who believe like them. Nor does it say they can’t stand aside to see a mutual enemy attack the other. Actually I suspect Mohammed would be delighted to see two enemies kill each other while he stood and cheered.

  • tg7357

    DaveH says:
    September 1, 2010 at 1:20 pm
    TG, I don’t know what the outcome would have been if we hadn’t gotten involved in WWII. Nobody does. Maybe Russia and Germany would have decimated each other (that would have been a good thing). Who really knows?
    What I do know is that after the socialist creep Hitler subjugated Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Poland, and others, we lazily let them become subjugated by the Communist Russians after the war. Were we really fighting for Freedom? It would have taken very little effort (compared to that of stopping the Germans) to give those countries back their Freedom, instead of turning them over to the Russians.
    Our entry into most Wars was preceded by a lie to rally the American people. If the cause is so noble, why must the leaders lie?~~~~Leaders lie because it helps line their own pockets and keeps their parties in power. I.E–Barack Obama and Bill Clinton. George Bush as well. The reason the WEst allowed Russia to take over the Eastern Bloc was because the Allies were still fighting a war in the Pacific and we couldn not have fought the Japanese on one front and the Russians on the other. Russia had finally got her war machine in gear (thanks to the Allies) and would have pulverized what was left of the Allies after Germany fell. Lesser of 2 evils. Plus, the alliance between the US, France and England was strained to the breaking point anyway. France would not have stood against the Soviets with the US and Britian, and the English had their own end of the Pacific war to finish, too. The Soviets were holding all the cards, and the Allies had to fold. It wasn’t fair to the smaller Eastern Bloc countries, but war, politics and life iin general is rarely fair.

    • 45caliber

      To get Russia to agree to an alliance, the Allied powers in WWII agreed to give Russia control of what area of Europe they captured if they would give us the same right to the area we captured. One of FDR’s bargains. Up until then Russia was an allie of Germany. Germany found out and attacked Russia. But we held to that agreement after the war.

      Supposedly if Russia had NOT come in on our side and syphoned a lot of German power into western Russia, we wouldn’t have won the war so easily. I don’t know one way or the other.

      • tg7357

        i don’t think Germany had any intention of keeping the Russians as allies for any lenght of time. They considered the Soviets inferior even to the British, and until the Russians stopped them at Stalingrad, they were actually winning the war in the north. If the Russian winter had held off for another 6 weeks, Stalingrad would have fallen, and I really think Stalin would have capitulated or demanded the Allies send troops to the eastern front to help him.

        • 45caliber

          I agree with you.

          • tg7357

            Its kind of far off the original subject, but there were a lot of lessons in WW2, Korea and Vietnam that our current leadership is missing. A position of weakness is NEVER a place to address your enemies from: they won’t respect you for it, and compassion can lead to expensive collateral damage. Win the war, then worry about binding up the wounds.

          • 45caliber

            I agree again. But I remember HH Humphrey during Vietnam days. He made the statement: “It doesn’t matter how many Americans are killed in Vietnam as long as the Senators can get the credit for ending the war.”

            I think that is the real problem here. The politicians want to get something to make them appear to be great people – even if they get half a million people killed doing it.

          • 45caliber

            P.S. And I believe that they don’t want to allow us to be the strong one because then they can’t do this as easily.

    • DaveH

      In other words, TG, we let evil prevail, so we accomplished little by getting involved.

  • Rene

    America is at present void of Leaders with morality and back bone. Now more then ever we have to trust in God. The stage is set. Just pray and trust that this beautiful people that call them selves “Americans” humble themselves before God so the Blessings will come back. Then straighten their backs and take this Land back to Hope, Love and Charity and a new found morality. My prayer for America is: “Lord your move in mysterious ways. Grant us faith, hope, courage and strength to travel well and to trust you, no matter what roads we are on. In Jesus name I pray. Amen.
    One can talk politics as much as one wants but it is destiny that molds our future. Listen to Glen Becks words. Listen good. He is no minister. Yet he has it right. It comes down not to politics, who our leaders will be or are. In the end (and the end will come for each and every one of us) it is between you and your maker God the father of the Universe. So get your heart straight today. Christians hear the Angels trumpets mentioned in Revelation. It will all be here sooner then you think. God Bless America, Land that I love. Stand beside Her and guide Her…..Hopefully you all know the rest of the words. Start your day with that song in your heart and end the day on your knees lifting America up to God with that song. More beautiful words I have never heard. It tears me up with gratitude every time I hear those words sung. I am a legal immigrant came as a refuge in 1958 and found my home here. Became an American citizen and thank God every day for that priveledge. Not to boast, I have traveled wide and far but there is not one country as good as America. Again thank you America for accepting me as one of your own.

    • 45caliber

      Rene:
      I believe we have as many good leaders as we always have had. But they haven’t been allowed to work to the top since too many on top aren’t good leaders. For instance, McArther was dismissed (fired) because too many people trusted him and might have voted for him like they did Eisenhower. Once we get most of these old fossils out of they way (hopefully in the next two elections) I think we’ll see more good leaders appear.

    • Wlmitch1

      You included an excellent prayer in your comment, Rene.

      I will share a Catholic prayer(s) with you and all on this thread:

      In the Name of the Father, and of the Son,
      and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

      Lord give us the strength and courage to confess our sins.
      We ask thee for thy forgiveness. Hear us and heal our land.
      Through the same Christ Our Lord. Amen.

      Let us pray:

      St. Michael the Archangel,
      defend us in our day of battle,
      be our protection against the
      wickedness and snares of the devil.
      May God rebuke him, we humbly pray.

      And do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host,
      by the power of God, cast into Hell Satan
      and all of the evil spirits
      who prowl throughout the world
      seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

      In the Name of the Father, and of the Son,
      and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

  • THINK ABOUT

    I am amazed at some of the comments here, many are so disconnected from reality, they would rather believe lies and untruths just as the ones telling them the untruths would rather climb a tree and tell a lie than to stay on the ground and tell the truth. It appears the ones telling the untruths backs up their thoughts with donations for their untruths.

    Did Bush really want to go after Osama bin Laden, maybe, but after he saw to the bin Laden family exiting the USA after 9/11. Hardly anyone was flying but the bin Laden family was able to fly out. Did Bush distance himself from the Saudi by walking along and holding hands with them, perhaps the muslim is George W Bush.

    Does the Saudi want to get rid of Iran, most probably, this has been years of conflict, for you see Iran are persians and not arabs as the Saudi are, ergo they want to see the persians gone and if it would be at the expense of the USA doing the dirty work, then they would be able to keep all their oil money.

  • chuck b

    ken weible:

    in my estimation you are absolutely correct. we cannot go to war as a policeman, korea, vietnam,iraq and the afghanistan war has proven that. the rules of engagement our troops are faced with only makes more casualties for us. we either go to war with the intent to totally destroy the enemy or stay home. the enemy is the country we are invading this includes women and children.during ww2 did we have any reluctance in killing german women and children?, absolutely not, we bombed their cities without mercy and hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed, even though they were the enemy they were christians for the most part. did gen wesley clark have any mercy on the christians in the bosnian war, hell no, if they got in his way they died. this was all done from 14,000 ft. altitude. “we were defending muslims in that war”. it’s ok to bomb the hell out of christians,
    i disagree with the assumption that iran would be harder to defeat than iraq, we keep hearing about all the great russian weaponry, “their tanks and planes”, remember the 67 war isreal had with egypt and the uar. we heard all about the great russian military equipment egypt and the arabs had in their possession. well, what happened? the war lasted six days and the russian equipment was laid to waste without hardly any loss to the israeli equipment (u.s. tanks and planes). those of you who remember the korean war when the so called great harry truman was reluctant to antagonize the great army of china and the nuclear power of russia. that was baloney too! russia didn’t have the ability to use the atom bomb that they stole from us (thanks to the rosenbergs, julius and ethyl rosenberg, aunt and uncle to the washington post columnist “carl barnstein” of water gate fame.) and the chinese army was nothing more than a large mass of untrained troops, the only thing they had going for them was large numbers. so all in all we should not go to war with any country unless we intend them great bodily harm. send barry to afghanistan and let him fight his muslim brothers then see how fast the rules of engagement change.

  • Jan

    Do you think before Obama starts a war with Iran, he might be required to prove his right to hold the office of President, or is that dictator. His arrogance is beyond belief for an elected official who is supposed to serve and defend this country. Just look at his going to the UN against Arizona. When will we see him impeached?

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      You will NEVER see him impeached.

  • TAKE BACK AMERICA

    We simply can’t afford a war. The only thing we we can afford would be a few “strategically placed nukes”. Hiroshima & Nagasaki showed the world the possibility of atomic annihilation. Those born after “The Bomb” spent their childhoods with under desk drills. I was raised in the Atomic Age with little doubt that I would someday see a mushroom cloud. This seemed to all but disappear by the late 60′s with “Flower Power” and “Love In’s”. I’ve once again come to (in my mind) a perfectly sane and well grounded thought that the mushroom cloud I envisioned as a child was unnervingly likely. If for nothing else but to remind the world that this type of warfare cannot be tolerated. An oxymoron by definition as half the world has Nuclear capabilities. Living in a more “civilized” warfare era I see the distinct possibility of a nuclear device being triggered in an Iranian desert. Notice given, ignored and America being persecuted for the action. All the while the world vowing nuclear disarming with a private sigh of relief. We can’t afford a war, we can afford a demonstration.

  • http://yahoo rev gay

    I don’t believe Obama will lead us into war with Iran—he has just been blowing smoke in his threats to Iran this past year! Those are Muslim brothers! But if he does start a war, it’ll be the last one!

    I’m not worried about the future, because it’s all inn God’s hands!

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      rev gay, Obama seems to hold this eras presidential record for NOT blowing smoke up anyones ass. The “Muslim Brothers” comment is contemptuous and GOD’s track record leaves little to have confidence in.

  • Scott

    I just want to say that can you not see that all this bickering sbout right or left is dividing our nation . Even though we do not agree on so many different things we are all americans RiGHT!!!!!! so lets find a way to get over our differences and unite as the great nation that we are.I will tell you the same thing that bring division in the religons also brings division in the politcal partys and it is the the darkness and the father of darkness he is acommplishing what he is here to do and we are allowing it to happen. That is the truth and believe it or not someday you all will know the truth the things that are happening are all in the Bible we are living in the end times and the end is coming so take heed to this message and Seek God and his rightousness and REPENT of your sins be baptised in the name of JESUS CHRIST and follow his Commandments for i tell you my brothers and sisters there are only two masters and you need to make the choise witch one you are going to follow. Time is short!!!! we need to relize this life is short and we need to be thinking about eternity and the choice is up to you I PRAY you choose to live with JESUS thru ETURNITY I would put some serious thought in to it I will say it again TIME IS SHORT AND THE END IS NEAR dont just take my words for it STUDY for your self AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE ONCE he comes back for us he will be looking for the faithfull please please think about my words they are from my heart and i want to see all of us in heaven. God Bless

  • Michael Peery

    Actually Obama starting a war with Iran wouldn’t prove if he’s a Muslim or not. I believe he’s a Sunni Muslim which Iran is Shiite Muslims and they have been at war with each other.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      What makes him a “Sunni” other than your bigotry?

  • ChuckL

    What better way to hide his Muslim identity than to falsely give the appearance of fighting Muslims?

    Will Obama start a war with Iran to solve political and economic woes? Well, I for one, would not put this beyond him, but if he does so, he will make sure that we lose.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      What better way to make people think you’re a man by wearing mens clothes? You like Obama are fooling no one

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      What is there to gain for Obama to “lose” a war?

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        his ultimate goal; the destruction of America.

  • http://thekolinskichronicle.com Bruce Kolinski

    A look at the globe does suggest placing Iran in a two-front war. I suspect World War III is in our future.

  • chuck b

    we should declare war on islam and drive this insidious cult from the shores of our country and throw the muslim president out of office.

    • http://none Alex

      Your freely-elected president, Barack Hussein Obama, drinks alcohol and smokes cigarets and eats pork and baptized both of his daughters in the Christian faith—-you are ignorant.

      And our president is patently NOT a Muslim—grow up little whiner. You lost.

      • 45caliber

        I’ll try to remember to use that same statement after the next election.

        • tg7357

          If you don’t remember to say that to Alex, I’ll remind you myself. The libs are going to HATE the november elections.

          • TAKE BACK AMERICA

            You will be lucky to gain 7 seats.

      • chuck b

        prove it!!!! obama was born a muslim, never has he repented from that cultish religion. have you ever seen him eat a hot dog? or any pork? no!! or maybe you have seen his dinner menu at the white house. of course you bleeding heart liberals are taken in very eaay, thats why he got elected. what churc did his daughters get baptised (the reverend wrights churh??) ho ho ha ha, something tells me rev wright might belong to the nation of islam. why don’t you check it out with louie farrakhan, if he’s not available call the spaceship he might be in outer space.

        • chuck b

          the above comment is dedicated to “alex”

  • http://none Alex

    As the ONLY nation evil enough to drop atomic bombs on SLEEPING BABIES and hundreds of thousands of other non-combatants, the White Estates of Amerika has absolutely NO moral bearing on the rest of the world’s weapons programs—therefore, our wretched nation must recuse its piggish self from the diplomatic table and allow the more civilized nations to chart the course for Peace.

    • 45caliber

      Sorry, Alex, I don’t happen to think you are funny. And if you said that in seriousness, you certainly need help.

      ALL wars have collateral damage as it is called. It is obvious that you never fought in one. When someone is shooting at you, you don’t stand there trying to determine if any civilians are in the way; you shoot back to save your own life. No equipment is good enough to prevent that even though we do try. Besides, in any war, ALL people on each side is involved whether they carry a gun or not. They provide for the troops. Take a look at the home front during WWII. Even the small children did what they could to help the troops – on both sides of the war.

      • TAKE BACK AMERICA

        You seem to forget Hirshoma and Nagasaki

    • 45caliber

      If I really thought stepping aside would give the world peace, I’d be all for it. Actually most have too many peeves at their neighbors to expect it. In fact the Bible says the same thing. “There shall be wars and rumors of war to the end of time.”

      The only way to have peace is to be so strong no one in his right mind would dare attack you. And that requires a committment you simply don’t have. You make enough attacks here that – in Iran for instance – would get you killed quickly.

    • tg7357

      If you’re talking about Nagasaki And Hiroshima, the War Department estimated that AMerican casualties for taking the Japanese homeland to be near or OVER 500,000. Now, that was American dead and wounded. Since most of the Japanese males of ages between 17 and 50 were already dead, interned in prison camps or otherwise not on the Japanses islands, the duty of defending them was going to fall to the women, children, young adults, old men, crippled, etc. How many civilian dead do you think would have accumulated in so many days of fighting to take Japan? After the fight on Okinawa, the War Department changed their minds when they found what was it? 20 survivors on that island from a pre-battle population of over 10,000? Something like that?
      Your moralism is as tiresome as your reasoning. Nagasaki and Hiroshima could have been much worse, too: they were above-air explosions. If those bombs had actually impacted, the casualties would have been even higher. Its no comfort for the dead or the survivors, but a ground zero blast would have probably killed everyone in a 5 mile radius.

      • TAKE BACK AMERICA

        Are you “justifying” Nagasaki and Hiroshima?

        • tg7357

          I’m ‘justifying’ not killing over 500,000 AMERICANS versus the 250,000 or so Japanese who died in the two cities, versus the god-knows how many civilians who would have died defending all the islands. Tokyo had a population of mainly civilians towards the end of the war, and the emperor lived there. How many civilians do you think would have died in the Toyko area ALONE just to save him? So the bombing of those two cities saved not only Americans, but Japanese as well. You can hate the logic, but you can’t ignore the facts.

          • TAKE BACK AMERICA

            That was an extremely long winded YES. You’re ok with all the women and children dieing and are able to rationalize it. It’s just collateral damage right. I imagine thats how the terrorists saw 9/11. See how easy it is for YOU to be seen as the terrorist? It’s wrong no matter how you look at it, don’t try to justify it

    • Craig

      Dropping nukes on sleeping, potential enemy babies, means more of OUR men and women get to live is righteous in my book. Alex, you ain’t the sharpest knife in the drawer are you? A panzy lib huh?

  • tg7357

    TAKE BACK AMERICA says:
    September 1, 2010 at 6:44 pm
    You will be lucky to gain 7 seats.~~~~Don’t bet your mortgage payment on it. I don’t think most Americans LIKE the demolibs anymore.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      I’m basing my assumptions on the political wagering sites. If anyone has insight into the outcome, they do.

      • tg7357

        I repeat: don’t bet the mortgage payment on it. Chance and fortune are funny things, you can never tell,even with odds. But you of course know so much more than everyone else. Yawn.

        • TAKE BACK AMERICA

          Not everyone, but I’m sure you’d be close to the bottom of the list.

          • tg7357

            I can live with that, since I know you are at the very bottom of the list. Did you enjoy summer school this year? Get a gold star by your name for being the 1st in your class to count to 100?

  • tg7357

    TAKE BACK AMERICA says:
    September 1, 2010 at 7:16 pm
    That was an extremely long winded YES. You’re ok with all the women and children dieing and are able to rationalize it. It’s just collateral damage right. I imagine thats how the terrorists saw 9/11. See how easy it is for YOU to be seen as the terrorist? It’s wrong no matter how you look at it, don’t try to justify it
    ~~~~~So you would rather have seen 500,000 plus Americans die taking Japan? Thats the problem with you libs: share the wealth, including shed blood. I’m appalled at your logic, and by the impression I’m getting that you would have been just fine with all those dead American Marines and soldiers. If you are an AMerican, you don’t deserve to be. One of those Americans who could have died on the shores of the Japanese islands might have been your grandfather. No grandpa, no you. Hows THAT for collateral damage?

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      Why cant you simply say YES? Or you trying to be a Right Wing Republican that only answers questions with rationalizations?

      • tg7357

        I don’t have to rationalize anything. The situation was what it was. Action was taken, whether you like the results and logic or not. You don’t seem to get it, or am I using words that are too big for you to grasp? On top of which, you’re arguing a point that is 60+ years old. I think it just terrifies you that your own exhistence could have been destroyed before you were even born if that action hadn’t been taken. You could have been part of the ‘collateral damage’ you keep harping about and I think its keeping you up at night. Well, welcome to reality and the world. Sometimes it isn’t a nice place, especially for unrealistic libs. If you think war and destruction can be deodorized and packaged up pretty, you’ve been watching too much TV.

  • Average Joe

    Someone please correct me if I am mistaken in my thoughts.
    Islam calls it’self “The Nation of Islam”, Correct? Now, if” Islam is a n
    “Nation”, then it cannot be a religion, correct? As such, they have no “religious freedoms” to stand on in this nation (the U.S.) and are in fact another nation invading our nation…which should be twarted at every turn, by any method nessesary… It looks to me that they have declared war aginst us (by open invasion)…..or am I missing something here?….just some food for thought.

    • Wlmitch1

      The Nation of Islam is an American Black Nationalist group which follows Islam. Therefore, they are American Black Muslims. It was founded in Detroit, Michigan, by Wallace D. Fard Muhammad in July 1930.

  • Jan

    This fear-mongering is nothing short of McCarthyism – it’s a pathetic way for otherwise “normal” people to address issues of concern. These rantings are not constructive, don’t reflect positively on our national ethos of welcoming the “tired and poor” – what happened to our Statue of Liberty professions?!?!

    • Average Joe

      It is a ligititmate question, there is no fear mongering involved.
      Are they as the claim, “The Nation of Islam” or are they a religion? Which is it?…It cannot be both. By their own terminology they are the “Nation of”. We are not the Nation of Christianity, Catholicism, Buddhism etc.( We difine each of these as a religion). So as I asked….which are they,a “nation of” or a “religion”? If they are a nation, then religion has no bearing on their doctrine. Nations have doctrines which have no bearing on religion. The U.S. has the a doctrine called the contitution, which his based on laws and not religion (while it may be based on religious morals, it is not a religion).So, by that thinking Islam has a doctrine (if it considers itself to be a nation) which is not religion…. So again, which is it?

    • Average Joe

      “what happened to our Statue of Liberty professions?!?!”

      Wasn’t that a “gift” from France?…we didn’t put those words on it …France did, and as such the question really has no validity.

  • THINK ABOUT

    The biggest muslim lover was George W, he and his family loved the bin Laden family, even got them out of the USA after 9/11 when no one less was allow to fly. If Obama is a muslim, them most of the comments are posted by muslims, now deal with your choice.

  • http://yahoo.com bob

    Although the author of this piece finds many opportunities to mention nuclear war and Armageddon, the reality is that of course the most powerful military in the history of the world (that would be the U.S.A.) could crack this “nut.” Although our ground forces are stretched thin, and the vehicles and equipment are somewhat depleted and worn, our single greatest asset, our Air Force, is currently under-utilized both in personnel and equipment.
    Another issue not mentioned in this article is the simple fact that all the other Middle East (Sunni Arab) countries, especially Saudi Arabia, is arguably even more concerned about Iran’s imminent nuclear capabilities as is Israel. That is why they recently met with Syrian and Lebanese leaders in an obvious effort to try to wean Syria’s support from both Iran and its proxy terrorist arm, Hezbollah. American’s who never gave a second thought to the second largest religion (Islam) and it’s 7th century teachings have only to look at one source of the “modern” international Jihadist expansionist activity around the world today – Iran. It started in November 1979 and after showing the rest of the Muslim world that the world’s richest and most powerful nation on earth was easily cowed, they quickly moved on to bombing U.S. embassy’s, marine barracks, hijacking civilian airliners, suicide bombings, and ultimately 9/11.
    The modern Jihadist isn’t just President Carter’s failing, as it has managed to continue (in large part) through the past 5 presidents, with no indication of change coming from our sixth consecutive and current president. Reagan pulled both the military and embassy staff’s out of Lebanon, Clinton did the same with U.S. military forces in Somalia (the black hawk down incident) and who can forget Bush 43’s 9/12 speech telling American’s that Islam is the Religion of Peace! Of course several of the “moderate Muslims” standing on the stage with him during that speech, would themselves later be charged with aiding and abetting Islamic terrorists!
    The simple fact is that “international” sanctions against Iran have never worked, don’t work, and never will work because there is no true “international sanction” if we can’t include China, Russian, Cuba, Brazil, and many, many others actively and openly violating those sanctions. At least 3 M.E. countries have now made their intentions to the world that they intend to start their own “nuclear energy” programs. The very notion of allowing these piss-pot countries developing their own nuclear weapons programs is simple madness! Finally, it should be remembered that the nay-Sayers predicted unimaginable losses if we went to war with Iraq! But there is one BIG difference between those months before we commenced ground operations in toppling Saddam Hussein’s regime and today, it is this; the U.S. military is the most combat experienced military in the world today!
    The American people need to understand the true stakes (remember OPEC is comprised of majority Sunni Muslim nations, not Shia) of what is needed today – Pay Now or Pay Later. The latter option is sure to be the much more expensive proposition …..

  • hundabuxt

    FIRST OF ALL THE MUSLUM RELIGION IS ONE OF INTOLERANCE. iF YOU’RE NOT MUSLUM YOU ARE THE ENEMY AND EITHER MUST BE CONVERTED OR KILLED, PERIOD. IF YOU BELIEVE OTHERWISE YOU’RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY BE A VICTUM. LEARN UP ON “SHARIA LAW AND TIQIYIA” THE LATTER TERM MOSTLY HAVING TO DO WITH SANCTIONED LYING TO FURTHER THE TEACHINGS OF THE MUSLUM BELIEF AND ACCOMPLISH ITS ENDS.
    SECONDLY, TO CONSIDER A GROUND WAR WITH IRAN IS PURE FOLLY. OUR MILITARY IS NEAR EXHAUSTION. MANY OUR TROUPS HAVE BEEN DEPLOYED 4 AND 5 TIMES OR MORE. SUICIDES ARE UP ALARMINGLY. AS WAS SAID EARLIER, OUR LIMITED NUMBERS ARE STRETCHED THIN.
    AS MUCH AS I DISLIKE THE CURRENT POLITICAL LEADER OF IRAN, IT IS AFTER ALL A SOVERIGN NATION AND I FRANKLY SEE NO REASON WHY THEY CAN’T DEVELOP THEIR OWN NUCULAR WEAPON. WHAT HAVE WE TO SAY ABOUT IT? IF IRAN IS SO DANGERIOUS WITH THE PROSPECT OF HAVING A NUCULAR WEAPON THEN WHY HAVEN’T WE INVADED KOREA, WHICH IS LEAD BY A PURE NUT CASE WHO IS FAR MORE DANGERIOUS AND UNPREDICTABLE? THE NUCULAR GENI IS OUT OF THE BOTTLE AND WE MIGHT AS WELL CONCEDE THE FACT THAT PROLIFERATION WILL OCCUR. POLITICALLY, HAVING THE BOMB PROVIDES CREDIBILITY LIKE IT OR NOT.

  • James

    First, President Obama didn’t start any wars. Indeed, in his campaign for the presidency he vowed to end our wars in Mideast. That was the main reason he was elected. His removal of 100,000 combat troops from Iraq last month was a fulfillment of his promise. If he intended to attack Iran, those troops would not have been removed. President Obama is forced to feign favoritism to Israel, because he inherited that political stance from President Bush. In his last year in office, Bush said: “An attack on Israel is an attack on the United States.” However, Obama has made it clear that he intends to treat all Middle East nations equally, including Israel.

  • Tim

    “Also there are some 80 million people in Iran, the great majority of them religious zealots who would throw themselves in the face of a foreign invasion.”

    Really? And if a foreign army invaded the U.S., all of us wouldn’t stand up and fight back? How do we know that there aren’t columnists in Iran stating “American is full of religious zealots who would give up their lives for their country”?

    We know the U.S. instigated this war when Iran was no threat to anyone. Now that they’ve kicked the “bee hive” they say “see, we told you they want war”. So, if any country stands up to the U.S. when we want to take their oil or other natural resources…it’s a religious war? WHAT?

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      Tim, I understand what you are saying but I have a Hummer (I need) that tows my ski boat. I like to hunt so I also have a Jeep that I stuffed a gas guzzling V8 into so when the seasons over I can go 4-wheeling. For the family trips we save money with our RV and tow our “street legal” dune buggy. Iran has OUR oil and if they can’t understand that, Nuke-em.

  • http://weroinnm.wordpress.com/ WeroInNM

    Question: Was the recent nuclear summit a “charade” and part of Obama Administration’s “fantasy foreign policy”?

    My recent blog post reveals the not too surprising answer to this question-You Decide:

    weroinnm.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/nuclear-summit-part-of-obama-administration’s-‘fantasy-foreign-policy’/

    “Food For Thought”

    “God Bless & Keep Our USA Safe”

    Semper Fi!

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      WerolnNM, God bless you to, and little Jimmy and Bobby and Spot. Keep Mommy and Daddy safe form the religious right and our extremest tea bag conspirators. And remember God we’re “always faithful” so bless our blog and all those poor souls we discriminate against for our own purposes. Ahhh-men

  • jopa

    tg7357;The nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshma and Nagasaki have maximum effect when they go off before hitting the ground.They did reach there maximum potential but small potatos compared to todays weaponry.

  • Stephen Russell

    Test if he’s Muslim or NOT, then see if he holds same values Then for Today.
    IF US wont aid Israel in Iran strike, We face Nuclear Terrorisim.

  • rhurt

    The main reason that Obama will start the war with Iran is not to win or do anything positive. It will be primarily to weaken the US military by having it fight a three front war-Iraq will ignite again wonce Iran is attacked. Obama needs the US military weak and ineffective so that it will not interfer with his plans in November to stop the free elections and create a US-Muslim Dictatorship here in America. Along with all of Obama’s accomplices he has very few strong enough enemies to block his agenda and certainly enough Muslim militant groups to support his agenda and he has already voiced his allegiance to these forces, and acted in accordance to this agenda with his acts of Obstruction of Justice for his Islamic comrades.

  • FreedomFighter

    A new generation of weapon systems are coming online for the American Military.

    Flying killer dinner plates. Swarms of dinner plate shaped hunter seeker killer disks, that can target a single man, or football field size group. The robotic tech is cheap effective and can be massed produced, droped silently from aircraft and flown in for the kill.

    “The Taliban Toaster” an aircraft mounted directed energy weapon (death ray), directed and target assisted by hundreds of drones, with pinpoint laser targeting and back up optics with multi-target capability, that can burn thru missle skins in microseconds and Taliban fighters even faster.

    Robotic ground fighters on tracks, mounted with machineguns, missle launcher, and grenade launcher (and other stuff) that can outrun a horse.

    Unverified tech that bends/distorts photons rendering object totally invisible to the eye at night. Even rumor of Nite-Warrior suits that look like evil spiderman, that have the photon distortion fields rendering the special ops totally invisible to the eye at nite.

    Think Im kidding? Pick up a copy of PopSci.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • http://google mike b.

    For all you idiots that think Hussein Obama is a christian then why has he gave speeches mocking and criticizing Jesus. Its all there on YouTube under Obama mocks Jesus Christ. Also cannot take his wife to saudia arabia or other muslim countries because its against islamic law for a woman without proper muslim garb to come to those countriues. Hussein Obama just wants people to think he’s a christian until after he’s re-elected or uses martial law to thwart 2012 election and he will declare his true muslim beliefs and declare war on christians much like the democrat-party and thier minions in the state-run mainstream media already has. All he has to do is steal the election and he will permantly destroy this counrty from within, his master plan all along.

  • http://www.owog.ws Michael

    The cards have been laid down the stage is set. Obama is the puppet Of the stage,the 10 groups run the movie or show. And the author is God.We see war all over,now E.O. Is we can not buy more than 10oz of Gold for now,but that will change soon. Israel sets over there by them self’s and the USA or Government will not help them ,we are moving into THE NEW WORLD ORDER. Where we no longer have Rights.Go to http://www.owog.ws. It’s a eye opener. and do there guest book,and commits page.

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