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Obama’s Mile-High Meltdown

October 6, 2012 by  

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Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Curt

    OBOZO is making Ben’s Job Easier By The Day. Rock-On BC.

    • Ted

      Benji – that wasn’t even up to the level of propaganda. It was like waving a big foam finger in the air and chanting “we’re Number one!”

      • http://naver samurai

        Speaking of Michelle bin Laden, take a look at how she got romped on Sesame Street.

        Now, that was funny!

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 선 한 싸움 동료 애국 자 올려! 하나님과 국가!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Palin16

        Ah yes, samurai. Just think when OBummer loses 27 days from now, we will also be saying sayonara to Michelle, Holder, Hillary, Nappy and all the other marxists. Have you seen the Obama playing cards? Each card has a picture of one of his cronies. The Queen of Hearts is Pelosi. The King of Spades is Rev. Jeremiah Wright. They’re hilarious.

  • dan

    ….and I thought I was through laughing at President Present.
    Mitt would do well to have a debate with Gov. Johnson (the other candidate on the ballot) and leave the community activists to their own devices.

    • James

      Really, really,


      Knock it off with the ‘Johnson’ junk.

      Folks like you might just put zero back in office by blowing the vote there. The rest of us do not want to suffer so you can feel better about ‘something’…

  • Tag

    AGAIN, oskunko shows everyone how arrogant and hyped up with his own importance really is – he doesn’t give a tinkers’ toot about any American citizen – he really should go back to Kenya and shepherd the Brahma bulls again!

  • Ed Hoy

    As much as I Can’t stand to listen to the ‘Obamanation’, I most certainly enjoyed listening to Mittens putting him in his place ~ which is back in Kenya.

    • eddie47d

      Would Mitt Romney feel more comfortable in the Grand Caymans or Switzerland where all his money is?

      • Joan

        Eddie47 you listen to the media toooooo often….they don’t know AND you don’t know where Romney’s money is….media is good at making up lies. Notice they don’t say anything about all of Odummers money is or where it comes from…you might want to check in to it yourself if you are so interested in “where is the money”

      • John Woodbury

        Eddie47 freak you and all your paid commie friends. I refuse to read any more stuff by the DNC trolls unless and until you have facts to back up your spew. I am so sick and tired of liberals I could spit blood. I just finished watching Japanese idiots spew about how they do not want the extra troops, ships, and planes from America. I think it is time we let the rest of the world do their own thing. We need to place a 200% import duty on all items that are imported, with an extra 200% for US corps who import stuff made in other countries. We need to cut Government back to 1960 levels and stop welfare, it did and does not work. Get rid of Dept of Education, EPA, ect. Hong Kong was the safest place for over 160 years, but the government placed mainland pilots and ferry captains on all boats, now they have had their first accident in a long time.

      • Susan

        Ask Queen Pelozi(she made 5 million from investments in other countrys in 2011) or Wasserman-Schultz they both have off-shore accts. People who don’t depend on the govt. for hand outs we work, invest and make money. At least Mitt’s money is HIS money, the dictator and ms.unlimited credit card are spending AMERICANS money.

        Big difference.

      • eddie47d

        John and Joan Romney freaks,okay you too Susan! If Pelosi earned her money as unethical as Romney then tar and feather her too. You want to play the Democrat/Republican game then fine fire away. I’ll take them all on. As far as Obama goes as I have said several times he and Michelle earned over $570,000 per year starting in 1995. He also wrote two book which netted a few million. So grow up and get your own snobbish facts together. The difference between Romney and Obama is that Obama as far as we know earned his money in a legal manner.While Romney earned his many millions in unethical ways by cannibalizing companies and jobs. Now John are you a Fascist freak since you love the name calling!

      • Gordon

        Eddie= class jealously, I mean, warfare again. Romney has done nothing illegal, so why do you hate his money so much? You must be a failure in your own eyes.

      • Karolyn

        You people just don’t get it.

      • Wil

        Yo Ed,did you know that one of your favorite hate groups,the SPLC,also has most of their accounts in Belize and the Caymans?

      • sam1966

        Though I do agree that those are 2 places the rich like to put their money, but do you have any proof that he has bank accounts in these places ed-duh? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 선 한 싸움 동료 애국 자 올려! 하나님과 국가!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

      • Patsy

        I have a T-shirt that says, “Apparently I am supposed to be more upset about what Romney does with his money than I am about what Obama doew with mine.” It really is nobody’s business what I do with my money or what Romney does with his. nuff said.

      • nickkin

        What’s the difference Eddie…….obummer is getting foreign contributions to his campaign & some might be coming from the Caymans and Switzerland and mostly from Saudi Arabia.

    • TexasRide

      I loved it when Romney said something like this to omaumau, “You don’t understand the economy, let me tell you how to create jobs.”

    • ANNE

      If Obama is such a good debater, why didn’t he call Mitt Romney out on the 47%? I think when Romney made that statement, he was referring to the people that had already made up their minds and that includes the 47% of people that are on welfare, rather by choice or because in this economy they have either ran out of unemployment and have not been able to find a job, thanks to Obama.

      • eddie47d

        Absolutely,Obama should have ripped into Romney on that one. That opportunity may now be lost after Romney’s apology tour on the subject.

      • Matrix


        Obama a great debater or the master corruptor?……

        Obama is a fraud of a President and fraud of a man! It’s a proven fact that Obama had sexual relations with many men in his past, and looking at Mitchell, he hasn’t changed his taste for the masculine.

        The Obama was placed in power by the most corrupt scum of society, and I’m not talking about the idiots that voted for the maggot, (I would call it the faggot but would offend too many of his cult on this site) I’m talking about the most corrupt banking demons that have poisoned and corrupted our great nation.

        The fix was in when the rino McCain won the primary and he chooses Palin as he VP, we all knew the maggot would come to power.

        The fix is in again this year to place the final nail in America’s coffin, and all of you demented, anti- America, anti- God, anti-society, anti-life freaks that follow this maggot will be the first to suffer after you lose your obama phone, your obama home, and your obama spawn, you will have a wonderful opportunity to fester in your obamanation!

        Good luck my fellow American’s (Conservatives)! We have a battle ahead of us and it’s not going to be pretty.

        I hope you’re well prepared as we had many years to get ready for this time.

        Spend time with your family, try to educate them on reality (not reality TV) and make plans for the emergency to come.

        Explain with urgency the importance of the coming battle and please make sure you have many months worth of ammunition!

        Keep your faith in your fellow American’s ( liberals not included)strong and your faith in God stronger and never give up the fight, for in the end we all die, but to have an opportunity to go out fighting for our families, our beautiful America and our God is a privilege.

        God, Bless This Nation Created in your Goodness, and give us the strength to defend her and you!

      • organicroseski2

        I agree Ann. Maybe, he knew Mitt had the answer. We all know those with socialist thoughts or Marxist/communist leaning will vote for Obama no matter what. Those that believe MSMBC will vote for Obama. Those mass minded people whose union leaders, preachers or teachers tell them who to vote for might vote for Obama. The union leaders I experienced, “If you want to keep your job, vote Democrat.” Those that want to share your wealth vote Democrat. Message to the share your wealth people: You know Obama is in the corner of the U.N.; you know the U.N. wants a world tax; U.N.’s WHO wants up to 70% tax on cigarettes; and you know the U.S. poor is not poor in the U.N.’s eye.

      • Susan

        The reason the dictator didn’t bring it up is the day before his racist video came out…He is too much of a wimp to bring it up to a real man.

        “White people have guns so we don’t take their stuff” (paraphazed). This is from a boy who grew up with a silver spoon in his mouth from his Marxist rich grandparents, his granfather was a big oil man and so was his father that he dreams of so much (he met his father once , his dad was an alcoholic with multiple wives with children who he failed to support and he died in an appparent drunk driving accident, {sounds like nightmares from my father})private schools, etc. Yea the dictator really suffered, oh and how about he NEVER had a job till some idiots bought him the Sen. seat.Which in 3 yrs he went to work 87x to vote, real rough barry.

        Can you imagine if Mitt had a brother suffering in poverty in another country and ignored him, the govt. controlled media would NEVER let him live it down, but multi-millionare bho doesn’t even give him a dime, and that’s charity!

        The guy is a lazy marxist muslim bum living off others money, wife ditto!

      • Karolyn

        Susan – What source did your information come from stating that Obama’s grandparents or father were rich? Tha is totally laughable!

      • Karolyn

        Matrix – You don’t sound like an American to me. America is made up of a great variety of people and beliefs, and you would discount half of the population because they do not agree with you? Sounds like fascism to me! We ALL want the same things. Your hatred only makes your position sound UN-American and more like exremists, like those Muslim extremists you love to hate. It almost sees like you and people like you do just LOVE to hate.

      • eddie47d

        What else do they have except pious hatred Karolyn! Its coming out like the morning dew or is that their morning constitutional!

      • sam1966

        Well said Matrix! Hey ed-duh and Karolyn, why don’t you read this about what a true patriot is. It sure is not Obama bin Laden. It also talks a little about the movie “God and Country.”

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 선 한 싸움 동료 애국 자 올려! 하나님과 국가!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • just me

    They don’t refer to him as Oblahblah for nothing……

  • John C

    I watched the meltdown the other night and was happy to see Obama looking down onto the podium where they normally hide his teleprompter…he was looking for the magic teleprompter person to rescue him…this was so unfair the village idiot didnt have his teleprompter where it normally was ..and stood there clueless…..Al Gore claimed ( It was because of the altitude at Denver)…but we all know Obama has been higher than this before he even admitted it in his book…Maybe Obama should have refrained from having that second doob the night before. He looked like he wanted to run and hide somewhere, or that he had someplace better to be. We have to understand though that a bunch of young inexperienced .college kids helped to get him elected in 2008, some of them were so misinformed by their teachers and really didnt know how the world works…or actually believed his socialist agenda to (fundamentally change the US) did they realize they voted in a communist.

    • http://AOL cdp

      You are so correct.

      • Joan

        Don’t forget the other helpers that got him elected: homeless, dead, and all the ones that voted for him “just because he’s black”…like the kid said” I like Obama because he gave us cell phones”……

    • Palin16

      I felt a little altitude sickness myself the last time I was in Denver, even requiring medical attention. However, usually within 24 hours one adapts to it. Opponents of the Denver Broncos usually arrive a day or two ahead of time to adjust before game time. Besides, Obama gave his speech 4 years ago in front of the styrofoam Greek columns in Denver so he should have known better. He should have got there a day ahead of time instead of partying at the Hoover Dam the day before. And why practise with that loser John Kerry??

      • eddie47d

        The Hoover Dam was only 1/2 hour away from Henderson where he was practicing debating and he was not partying. Maybe he should have practiced more but you didn’t say that.

      • Palin16

        edduh, I live in Vegas and I can assure you I know where the Hoover Dam is. BTW, Obummer didn’t built that…someone else made that happen.

      • Oneguess

        Palin 16, you rule! Ben Dover, Ed-duh!

      • eddie47d

        Yes Palin and Mr Guessing game Hoover dam was indeed built by previously unemployed Americans and hired by the government you hate.

      • sam1966

        Speaking of jobs ed-duh, why don’t you look at this one?

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 선 한 싸움 동료 애국 자 올려! 하나님과 국가!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • hipshotpercusion

    We have “Helicopter Ben ” and “Teleprompter Barry.” Neither one knows what he’s doing. We are truly blessed.

    • Warrior

      See how boy wonder is currently performing in polls that matter.

      • Joan

        The only problem with polls is that the liberals print false figures…but anyone with any common sense knows what really is happening.

      • Karolyn

        Yes, and the repubs are pure as the driven snow! Contrary to so many of you who tow the party line no matter what, I am a registered dem and do NOT agree with everything they do or say!

    • Vigilant

      “Teleprompter Barry” knew he didn’t have to put in a good showing, since “Chef Axelrod” was making sure the books were cooked on Friday’s unemployment numbers. One wonders what forms of coercion and extortion Axelrod used to create the October surprise, and how long they had planned it.

      The implausibility of the job numbers is so glaring that even liberal economists are shaking their heads. Jack Welch is probably right.

      • Karolyn

        Sour grapes!

      • Oneguess

        @Karolyn: your parent.

      • Vigilant

        Karolyn, that’s an awful thing to say. No true American, let alone true human being, rejoices at the misfortunes of other than their enemies. The unemployed are not my enemies, and if a true statistic indicated an improvement in the jobs situation, I would be the first to both acknowledge and laud it.

        The point is that the “stat” reflects something so untypical, so out of proportion to reality, so incredible as to be highly suspect. And the true unemployment rate, including the underemployed and those who have given up looking for work, is closer to 11%, not 7.8%.

        It can come as no surprise that this administration, one that is entirely comfortable with lying to us (re the current Libyan tragedy), would play with the employment numbers in the month before the election purely for political gain.

  • J.M.R.

    just proved hes an idiot

    • Xavier


      Ehem….all liberals are my good invisible one! and the world idiot is putting it lightly!!!

    • TexasRide

      But omaumau’s IQ is supposed to be so high that it is “off the scales.”

      • John Woodbury

        O is off the scales it just he is in the left part of the scale

    • sam1966

      “The problem with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, just that they know so much that isn’t so.”

      Ronald Reagan

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 선 한 싸움 동료 애국 자 올려! 하나님과 국가!

      You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Jay

    Excerpts From “The Mormon Conspiracy”

    It is estimated that the assets of the Mormon Church have increased from about $15 billion in 1983 to over 50 billion in 2010.

    Over sixty thousand fully-trained, adequately financed and prepared Mormon missionaries are serving in all parts of the United States and in over 124 countries around the world.

    Because young Mormon men have served in and studied the languages of foreign countries throughout the world, large numbers of them have been hired by the federal Central Intelligence Agency and therefore are in control of a significant amount of CIA activities.

    Many Mormon men have been hired by the FBI, a preponderance when considering their proportion to the percentage of the population.

    A top leader of the Mormon Church has stated: “When our leaders speak the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan–it is God’s plan. When they point the way, there is no other way that is safe. When they give direction, it should mark the end of controversy.”

    A Mormon Church radio network is in operation that is both national and worldwide. The Mormon Church-owned Brigham Young University airs church promoting broadcasts throughout the world. The basketball games of BYU are especially attractive to South American listeners.

    The church utilizes radio and television stations throughout the United States to broadcast “Home Front Series” offering to send listeners free copies of the KJV of the Bible or the “Book of Mormon” and family-value videos. They are given toll-free phone numbers to call for these. When they arrive, they come with two Mormon missionaries “attached,” wanting an appointment to talk to families. These radio and television commercials are professionally produced and designed to enhance the public image of the church. (For anyone who orders these free materials from the Home Front, the Mormon Church has a professionally organized follow-up program. In addition, after the missionary visits, the mission president’s office of the district follows up these proselytizing calls).

    The LDS (Latter-Day Saints) church has plans to become a dominant force in the American government. Mormon Church leaders have probably ordained their President as the king of the new government to be established in the United States and eventually the world. It is believed that the General Authorities have established the framework for this new American government by secretly continuing the Council of Fifty originally established by church founder Joseph Smith and continued by long time president of the church, Brigham Young. The council of Fifty is prepared to assume top governmental positions necessary to administer the affairs of the country. The Council of Fifty would be in the hands of the king, (the President of the Mormon Church), his two Counselors and the Twelve Apostles. Common consent rules the governing of this group. That is, the President consults with his counselors and apostles and the “king” then puts his proposals to his Counselor and Apostles for unanimous approval.

    In this type of leadership there would be no opposition party. The General Authorities of the Mormon Church would rule nations in the same way that they govern the church today, making decisions and passing them down to church members. Church authority is absolute in the relationship between the General Authorities, lower echelon administrators and the church membership.

    Book: Republican Mitt Romney and the “Mormon Plan for America -”By William Schnoebelen…

    I spent five years in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS or Mormons). During that time I was highly active in church functions and priesthood offices. I held a “temple recommend” and went to the temple many times. This was from 1980-1985.

    Full story here:

    • dsm_ cal

      What’s your point Jay?

    • Erik

      Hey Jay, Thank God The Mormons have it together! I’m not a Mormon but compared to Obama I have to say I’d go with them any day of the week!

      • Jay

        Then go, and be happy.

      • Linda A.

        So would I, I’l take my chances with a mormon then with a muslim

    • Warrior

      Here’s the group that should worry everyone.

    • soldiermom11

      For Pete’s sake…all religions want to spread their word. Funny thing though…We get to choose who we follow.

      • Peter 10-nov-1775

        Yes, but whereas other religions have ceased converting by the barrel of a gun, islam is alive and kicking on that front. First befriend the infidel, then try to convert them, an if no joy, kill them.

    • Xavier


      And you are a member of the dumbAss party! again and again, you maggots prove time and time again how misinformed you are. Slaves of stupidity at best.

      Sorry Maggots; did not mean to compare you to the lowest form of a human being; a lib…

      • eddie47d

        There was a Confucius quote the other day which said. “A crowded elevator always smells different to a midget” You Xavier are that midget! Jay and I have our differences but he is an independent Conservative who doesn’t tow the line for anyone. He seldom if ever sides with Liberals so you keep sniffing those posteriors. .

      • Karolyn

        And , Xavier, I guess you are a Republican who will follow anyone your party ordains. Reading what people like you write – calling your fellow man “maggots , etc. – pushes me to the other side even more and more. I am so grateful not to be affiliated with a group that has that kind of attitude.

      • John Woodbury

        A religion that eddie and Komrade Karylon do not like can not be all bad. I also have know LDS members. They were totally family orientated, I have never known one that lied, did not deliver the contract they made and were in many ways very great friends, the problem I have is I do not believe in God. (even though the two years I was under fire, we got to be great friends)

      • eddie47d

        Since I am a Christian John what religion did you have in mind? You certainly know nothing of my Jesus in how you remarked!

    • SJJolly

      Sounds like the Mormon Church is using the age-old Catholic Church playbook, but doing it better.

    • http://yahoo wendell

      Jay, I doubt that you were ever a member of the Mormon church. If you were, you would know that the Church doesn’t have a King, he is called the President and the current one is Thomas S. Monson. 2nd, The meetings never, ever mentions or talks to their members about politics and who you should vote for as President of the United States. This is left up to the individual as a freedom of choice and that is what the church is all about, making your own choice. No one is forced to do anything, but that being said, they do have guidelines and recommendations on how to live your life and doing the things that would be best for you and your family. The believe that if a person or family needs help, they should look toward their own relation 1st, then go to their current Bishop and ask for help from the church and finally, if needed, to look to the federal govenment. The church has many welfare programs that not only help church members but also other people, outside the church, that may need help because of a natural disaster or other reasons. People should not believe what they read about the church from outside sources, but should talk to an active member for a true accounting of the Mormons.

      • John Woodbury

        Wendell, from personal experience I know they take care of their own, which is more than can be said of many in the United States.

      • Karolyn

        And from what I’ve read by former Mormons they take care of ONLY other Mormons! (much like Jehovah” Witesses)

    • http://naver samurai

      Got some good news.

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

      You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Jay

    Yes, several. The most prominent Mormon in Congress currently is probably Harry Reid, D, NV who is the Senate Majority Leader. Other Mormon congressmen include:

    Orrin Hatch, R, UT
    Robert Bennett, R, UT

    Mike Crapo, R, ID
    Jeff Flake, R, AZ
    Rob Bishop, R, UT
    Wally Herger, R, CA
    Eni F.H. Faleomavaega, D, American Samoa (delegate)
    Buck McKeon, R, CA
    Jim Matheson, D, UT
    Mike Simpson, R, ID
    Gordon Smith, R, OR
    Tom Udall, D, NM
    Leonard Boswell, D, IA

    “Ronald Reagan truly admired the Latter-day Saints. His administration included more members of the Church than any other American president, ever. Three of us, David Fischer, Gregory Newell and I, served on his personal White House staff. Richard Wirthlin was his chief strategist. Ted Bell served as Secretary of Education, Angela Buchanan was Treasurer, Rex Lee was Solicitor General. His White House included Roger Porter, Brent Scowcroft, Richard Beal, Blake Parish, Jon Huntsman Jr., Dodie Borup and Rocky Kuonen, and there were many other Latter-day Saints throughout his Administration. President Thomas S. Monson served on a Presidential Commission on Volunteerism. Others were ambassadors. LDS senators and representatives were held in special regard, and the Tabernacle Choir was his special inaugural guest.” -Stephen M. Studdert, Special Assistant to President Reagan.

  • Susan

    Better a Mormon than a Communist, better success than absolute poverty for all except the few elitist’s !

    • Jay

      Mormonism is nothing more than communal-Cummunism. Study Mormonism, Susan…

      • Erik

        Hey Jay, You sound like a atheist,or if not then a outright religious bigot! If someone is saving you from a burning building are you going to insist they show you their credentials in detail before rescuing you? I fear you wouldn’t survive! In any event I have to say that in spite of what you think are your superior analytical abilities,you’re a real JERK!

      • Jay

        Erik says: Hey Jay, You sound like a atheist, or if not then a outright religious bigot!

        Do i detect Mormon mentality; don’t question the Prophet/King…?

        Erik says: If someone is saving you from a burning building are you going to insist they show you their credentials in detail before rescuing you?

        That’s funny, Obama supporters use the same argument…i take it you’re not an Obama supporter?

        Erik says: I fear you wouldn’t survive!

        Really? I have fire-alarms installed throughout my house…its the law, don’t you know? So why would i need a Communist-Mormon to save me from a Communist…whatever he is?

        Erik says: In any event I have to say that in spite of what you think are your superior analytical abilities, you’re a real JERK!

        Another words, anyone who criticizes your definition of reality is a real jerk. Btw, is there such a thing as a, fake jerk?

      • http://none Claire

        Jay–I will have to agree with you. Since I edit manuscripts for a living, I have learned much about the Mormons. Have you read the complete history of Mormonism teachings?

      • Blue Devil

        Jay — I grew up along the Arizona-Utah border (“Up on the Kaibab”) and am acquainted with quite a large number of Mormons. All that I know, personally, are good people. I, by the way, am Catholic. Further deponent sayeth not!

      • Jay

        Yes Claire, i am. Mormonism isn’t just a religion, as i’m sure you are well aware, it is as well, a political movement. I’m astounded when i consider that the majority of Christians, and those outside of Christianity, are under the impression that the Mormon religion is just another sect of Christianity. In fact, many have stated that it is, Christianity. Nothing could be further from the truth. There are such fundamental differences between the doctrines/beliefs of Christianity and that of Mormonism, that one would have to be either; spiritually and mentally-challenged, or intellectually-lazy to miss them.

        To put it succinctly, the fundamental difference between The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints and Christianity is that one is monotheistic and the other is polytheistic.

        Biblical Christianity is rooted in Ontological Monotheism which is the belief in one God by nature.

        LDS religion is rooted in Polytheism which is the belief in more than one God by nature.

        But my detractors should not take my word for it. They should consider the words of the Prophet Joseph Smith:

        LDS founder Joseph Smith in The King Follet Discourse, August 15, 1844 said:

        “I will preach on the plurality of Gods . . . I have always and in all congregations when I have preached on the subject of Deity, it has been the plurality of Gods. . . . Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and that the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods”(Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 370; emphasis added).

        This teaching was elaborated upon by the Prophet Brigham Young:

        Brigham Young, second President and Prophet said:

        “There was never a time when there were not Gods and worlds, and men were not passing through the same ordeals that we are now passing through” (Brigham Young, Discourses of Brigham Young, 22-23).

        This belief is fundamental to LDS theology:

        Mormon Apostle Orson Pratt declared:

        “In the Heaven where our spirits were born, there are many Gods, each one of whom has his own wife or wives which are given to him previous to his redemption; while yet in his mortal state” (Orson Pratt, The Seer, 37- 38; emphasis added).

        In devastating contrast to LDS doctrine, Scripture teaches that there is only one true God. Yes, anything can be called a god, money, career, automobile, etc. But calling it a god, even worshipping it as a god, does not make it a God. Scripture teaches ontological monotheism, that is, by nature there exists one God. John 17:3 states: “And this is life eternal, that they might know You, the only true God and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.” All other so-called gods are false.

        Naturally, and rightly so, everyone is free to believe whatever he/she so desires. I have no problem with this, per say.

        But what troubles me, Claire, is Mormonism, or the Mormon-religious-establishment, in regards to Politics.

        Here’s a quote from Chief Apostle Orson Hyde -Journal of Discourses, VII, 48-53

        “What the world calls “Mormonism” will rule every nation. God has decreed it, and his own right arm will accomplish it”.

        On the surface, one could dismiss such a quote as the rantings of a lunatic, but when one understands the fact that that is a universal and cherished belief held by the majority of those, if not all, in the LDS movement, and in addition, consideration must be given to the startling in-roads in American politics of the LDS organization, and their influence which they exert with in it, it should, i would think, give one pause and considerable concerns as to the serious implications of such. To put it bluntly, Mormonism is the Islam of America.

        I would urge everyone who is, and should be, interested, to acquaint themselves with the deception of Mormonism.

        They can start here:

    • Karolyn

      Yes, Susan, educate yourself before annointing Mormonism. I spent a few sessions with a couple who tried to win me over and thought it sounded great until I started doing my own research. There are plenty of former Mormons who are more than willing to spill the beans.

      • Palin16

        Tell that to Hairy Reid.

      • Karolyn

        Palin – What makes you think I give a crap about Harry Reid?

      • Palin16

        Because Dirty Harry Reid was instrumental in getting Obamacare passed. Remember the closed door sessions with balking democrat senators which led to the Cornhusker Kickback and the Louisiana Purchase, among others? All this after Odumbo promised the most transparent administration in US history. Harry’s also the guy with an imaginary friend who told him Romney hasn’t paid income tax in 10 years. Harry is a Mormon in case you don’t know.

      • Karolyn

        No s**t Palin, but why even bring his name into this. You think I care about Harry Reid because I’m a dem?

      • Palin16

        Because you have a litmus test wherein it’s okay for the Senate Majority Leader to be a Mormon, but not the president. Whatsamattah Karolyn, is that sinking feeling starting to sink in that Barack Hussein Obama’s gonna lose?

  • Jay

    …Should Mr. Romney be elected president, Smith’s dream of a Mormon Kingdom of God in America would not be fulfilled, since the 21st-century Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has little resemblance to its 19th-century precursor. The current head of the Mormon Church, Thomas S. Monson, known to his followers as “prophet, seer and revelator,” is indistinguishable from the secular plutocratic oligarchs who exercise power in our supposed democracy. The Salt Lake City empire of corporate greed has little enough in common with the visions of Joseph Smith. The oligarchs of Salt Lake City, who sponsor Mr. Romney, betray what ought to have been their own religious heritage.

    Though I read Christopher Hitchens with pleasure, his characterization of Joseph Smith as “a fraud and conjuror” is inadequate. A superb trickster and protean personality, Smith was a religious genius, uniquely able to craft a story capable of turning a self-invented faith into a people now as numerous as the Jews, in America and abroad…Joseph Smith continues to be regarded by many Mormons as a final authority on issues of belief, though so much of his legacy, including plural marriage, had to be compromised in the grand bargain by which the moguls of Salt Lake City became plutocrats defining the Republican party.

    At the same time as he sees today’s Mormonism as having become indistinguishable from the rest of the plutocracy, Bloom directly challenges the notion that the faith must be accepted on the same terms as other religions.

    A Mormon presidency is not quite the same as an ostensibly Catholic or Protestant one, since the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints insists on a religious sanction for its moralistic platitudes. The 19th-century Mormon theologian Orson Pratt, who was close both to Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, stated a principle the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has never repudiated: “Any people attempting to govern themselves by laws of their own making, and by officers of their own appointment, are in direct rebellion against the kingdom of God.”

    Mormons earn godhead though their own efforts, hoping to join the plurality of gods, even as they insist they are not polytheists. … The Mormon patriarch, secure in his marriage and large family, is promised by his faith a final ascension to godhead, with a planet all his own separate from the earth and nation where he now dwells. From the perspective of the White House, how would the nation and the world appear to President Romney? How would he represent the other 98 percent of his citizens?

    Bloom concludes on an ominous note.

    Mormonism’s best inheritance from Joseph Smith was his passion for education, hardly evident in the anti-intellectual and semi-literate Southern Baptist Convention. I wonder though which is more dangerous, a knowledge-hungry religious zealotry or a proudly stupid one? Either way we are condemned to remain a plutocracy and oligarchy. I can be forgiven for dreading a further strengthening of theocracy in that powerful brew.

    Granted, Harold Bloom’s ruminations on Mormonism deep in the Sunday Times are likely not to register much in the South Carolina GOP primary. But the piece is worth reading in full.

    • http://speedle speedle

      Man, they must have kicked you out of the Mormon church for smoking something Jay. And it appears you haven’t learned your lesson. Lay off that stuff. It makes you see stuff under the bed, in the closet, and makes you think conspirators are all around you.

      • Jay

        Gee speedle, have you forgotten all the comments you posted in regards to conspiracies as they relate to Obama? I haven’t. Perhaps you were sucking on the bong as you wrote the above comment? Puff puff…woooo…hell…yehaa…

      • speedle

        What comments would that be Jay? I don’t seem to recall any comments about “conspiracy theories” regarding Obama.

    • Matrix


      Please explain to me the last Mormon that decapitated a non believer, that gathered in force and stoned a raped girl to death, that behead a woman because her cheating husband put blame on her, that believes in child molestation, that live for the hatred for their fellow man, that despise Jews, Christians, and even their own spun off cults (each other), that have cultivated such extreme hatred and evil in our current world that we are about to go into a world war over a belief in their god (Satan).

      A vote for obama (muslim, mohammad )is a vote for Satan.

      A vote for Romney ( Christian, Jesus ) is a vote for Christ.

      You have your God given freedom of choice right now, at this moment in time, a choice you may never have again, to make.
      God and our Lord Jesus Christ…….or
      obama……it’s your choice……forever……

    • steve

      Me thinks you have been listening to someone who collects money to preach. As always follow the money and you will find the answers. Consider that when you think about or give credibility to a source.
      Yes the Church is very well organized, would you expect less from Christ’s church?

      In case you wonder what the lord said about preaching for money check out 1st Peter Chapter 5 verse 2.

      You should know there is no paid ministry in the Mormon Church.

      But enough on religion, you want to believe the worse about the Mormons then that is your choice. 15 million people will tell you the Mormons are indeed Christian. What you don’t understand is that the church has to remain politically neutral due to the fact that they are indeed a world wide church. They do not interfere in local politics. All they do is create better citizens, some who wish to serve in government. That is why they are welcomed by government’s world wide.

      Under the direction of Constantine in the council of Nicaea the true doctrines of Christ were modified for political reasons so the churches of that time could co exist without killing each other thus establishing a peace among his nation. Most Christian Church’s today trace their roots to this council. Some folks consider that is why we experienced a period of time after that known as the Dark ages. Or let’s call it a time the spirit of the lord withdrew from this world.

      Thank God for some of the reformers that came along during that period like Luther or John Wesley. They set the stage for the restoration of the gospel and the Mormons simply know and believe it has happened.

      It is interesting that it happened on this continent shortly after the banner of religious freedom was established by our founding fathers. It was probably the only place in the world where it could have happened. If you read the founders you will quickly understand that they felt inspired of God to give us these liberties and this government.

      Back on who is the best candidate, I seem to remember Obama said he was a Christian, and then he said he is a Muslim. Both can not be true. Rather than stand on principal truth, it would appear he has lied to get into the game or play both camps. You can’t serve two masters. That, in and of itself, is enough for me to dismiss him.

      • Karolyn

        He never said he was a Muslim!

      • sam1966

        Wrong answer Karolyn.

        You understand now Karolyn? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 선 한 싸움 동료 애국 자 올려! 하나님과 국가!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • sam1966

      Here is some more on rationing under Obama bin Laden Care.


      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • Alan Larsen

    I’ll take the Mormon over the Moron any day!

    • Mikey

      That’s what I was going to say!

    • eddie47d

      Great comments Jay and he was only informing us of the dangers of any religious theocracy. The Mormon Church is welcomed in America although it wasn’t for many years. Look at the rancor over Kennedy being a Catholic and that the Pope was going to take over America. People take pot shots at the Catholics all the time and the same will probably be true about Mormons. Mormons have high standards and are a tight knit community. Their Faith is different in some aspects from traditional Christian religions but very strong. Back in the mid-70′s a Mormon family lived with us for 1 1/2 years (mother and child) while the husband worked in Wyoming. That being said I still don’t like Romney because you never know which way the wind is blowing with him. He takes political positions like someone is choosing the flavor of the day. Like I said a few days ago I think he is a dishonest business cheat and he will also cheat on America for personal glory. His unethical dealings with Bain means he is not strong in his Mormon Faith.

    • Jay

      Have you noticed that the only difference between the two designations is that one is missing an “m”. Don’t worry, its probably just a typo…

    • Palin16

      …and I’ll take the Mormon over the Muslim anyday!

      • eddie47d

        Then you may have to settle for Christian Obama.

      • Palin16

        sorry edduh, listening to Rev. Wright preach Goddamn America for 20 years doesn’t exactly qualify one as a Christian.

      • eddie47d

        Maybe extreme right winger Rev Jerry Falwell is more to your taste Palin along with Conservative Liberty University. Their racial bias was well known. How about Father Coughlin and his racial hated against blacks is more to your liking? How about Pat Robertson and his fervent hatred of Muslims! Or maybe his support for the death penalty for homosexuals turned you on. Then there is Billy James Hargis of Oklahoma who spewed out right wing hatred for decades! Take you pick Ms holier than Thou!

      • sam1966

        Don’t forget the radicals like Louis Farakkhan backing up Obama bin Laden ed-duh. They aren’t any better. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 선 한 싸움 동료 애국 자 올려! 하나님과 국가!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • michael

    WHAT WOULD ONE EXPEXT.Obama never had a job in his life. his sole function in
    chjcago was to stufff the ballot boxes.If he had a brain they both would be lonesome.
    Whoever heard of of a so called educated person needing a speak.
    His record in office as well as his knowledge are an absolute disgrace.

    • Palin16

      Aw, be nice now michael. Let’s give credit where credit is due. Obama actually did have a real job once. He served ice cream at Baskin-Robbins in Honolulu.

      • Dave

        Including, I have read, “free” ice cream for his friends.

        It seems not much has changed.

      • Darlene Betterton

        That was classic…..

  • Jim Mapes

    Actually I have to give Jim Lehrer props for allowing a debate and not championing Obama and defending him with loaded questions.

    The title for that debate was:

    The Executive vs The Amateur

  • Jim Mapes

    As to the Mormon comments, I’ve worked at many places. One of my better and professional bosses was a Mormon. He was fair, he tried to encourage people under him to learn and advance.

    Attacking Mormons is like attacking Jews – you can use stereotypes and certain individuals (like Jarry Reid or Debby Whatshername-Schultz) but the majority of people are just regular people with somewhat different beliefs. Not like Islam where there is actually a significant number who actively want to kill you or convert you.

    • Darlene Betterton

      Being a Born again believer in Christ….not a religion, but a relationship….I would and will vote for Mitt….He will do a stella job. Remember, he does not need the power of the office or the money….He really wants to bring America back to what it is meant to be.

      He yes is Mormon by his choice of church and what he believes and he is a man of integrity. I don’t think it is his intention to make All of us Mormons….

      Let us all get behind him and make it a landslide because if the current president
      continues in his rule over us….We will wish we had done more to stop him from
      being re elected. Don’t people let it happen…It must not happen…..

      • Karolyn

        “STELLA!” Sorry, could’t help it!

  • tony

    When Obama is in this kind of forum he can’t defend his Policies with the Lies he uses and gets away with by a LAME Stream Media covering his acts when away from this .

    So Romney Needs to go where ever Obama is from now till election time and call him out for his failed Policies that have only created a doubling of the debt and Is on schedule to Triple it by the end of his second term . This is final the collapse of the dollar bond market and bring the American People to their knees as Nationalization of the free market results in Rationing of our Quality of Life we have now . We don’t know what gas lines are like , the limited use of power and a food rationing system like they had in WW2 is like , but get ready because this is the Obama second term , It will be like a battle zone just like how he Governs , he makes Bush look like a Boyscout .

  • Deerinwater
    • http://yahoo john martin

      Guess the Left is getting desperate!! 911

    • John Woodbury

      And your comment is what peeinwater? Or do you want someone to tell you what it says?

  • just me

    Seems the House passed a bill, HR6566 on Sept. 28th, and posted it on yesterday morning.
    Check it out.

    • brett

      i believe in god as the creator of this planet and this universe et al. i believe that every thing created is all part of god’s plan in the circle of life. i don’t see how within our (unlike god’s other creations, god gave us free will) stewardship (husbandry, dominion) that god meant for us to so capriciously desecrate this beautiful planet he gave us.

  • netandyawho

    I just hope the Mormons don’t swallow the 6 million Jew propaganda.

    • Peter 10-nov-1775

      And what propaganda may that be, hmmm? Are you related to abadinjihad or chavez {iran and venezuela, respectively}? Please excuse spelling of iran’s hitler. I wonder if the halfrican also feels that way.

      • netandyawho

        I am not related to the Muslim and Communist idiots you cited and their relatives and friends. And I am not related to the Zionist liars either. I am related to the truth which by your response you have yet to be enlightened to.

        I shall pray for your immortal soul so that the light of your conscience will be rekindledb with the beacon of truth. Once you have this rebirth, do not fight it, but accept it and use it in spreading the reality of the six million hoax.

        • sam1966

          Sorry dude, but the Holocaust was real and 6 million Jews, along with millions of others, died between 1933 – 1945. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

          You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • sam1966

      Care to prove it was propaganda? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and fear of God to ba a patriot.

      • netandyawho

        Thank you for labeling me as a “patriot”. A true patriot, such as myself, is a person who will defend their country when it is right and will admit the error(s) when it is wrong. For you see, a true patriot places God before country because God is the Truth. And without the Truth it is impossible to honestly consider yourself a true patriot.

      • sam1966

        If you believe the Holocaust didn’t happen, how can you be a patriot? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

  • brett

    so, you guys were actually that impressed with mr. etch a sketch? seriously, he agreed with obama so many times it was just like when he tried to dis obama’s “you didn’t build that” that he contradicted himself again. i loved how he’s going to keep many of those failed policies only doing away with the bad parts while not saying what those bad parts are nor how he would make them better! how is he going to cover all of those tax cuts (which are down to marrow) without revenue (the only absolute he gave) and not increase the debt, he clearly did not state how. mere wishful placating. if it weren’t for all the gruel feed b.s. lies that the status quo have raised many of you on…, well enjoy your delusional lives, keep the powder dry and try not to shoot any innocent bystanders (who am i kidding, you’ll shoot whom ever they train you to shoot).

  • http://yahoo john martin

    Romney did so good that even Obama is going to vote for him.

    • eddie47d

      Thanks John Martin for even us Independent Democrat leaning voters like a good sense of humor. LOL I won’t tolerate the myriad of false accusations (unAmerican Fascist,Nazi,Commie and so forth) leveled at Obama as so many do but a good dose of humor is good for all.

      • John Woodbury

        I agree eddie47 you make me roll on the floor laughing when I am not “seeing red”.

    • Warrior

      LOL – that’s good.

    • Palin16

      Obama better hope getting your a$$ kicked in a debate is covered by Obamacare.

    • Matrix


      LOL, very good………

  • soldiermom11

    John Ransom said it better and funnier: “Saint Obama Performs another Miracle by Making Unemployment Recede”.

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  • Kirk Knowlden

    Kirk Knowlden

    I am Mormon and I think Jay really doesnt know what he is talking about
    I do know that the guy in the White house is the last person that should be running this country
    I also know that it has been predicted accoding to the Mormon teachings “That a man will come before the world and he will show so much charm and charisma that he will be
    adored all over the world for a time but that would come to an end the middle east would rise and there would be war on the plains of Armageodon in Israel and thet would be the last war Hence the title ” Latter Day Saints ”
    I may not be absolutely accurate but this is some of the teachings I remember
    I am Mormon and they are good people but I broke away from the church for I coujldnt agree with some of the fundamental ideas But again I will say if you ask and are needy they will help anyone regardless of the religion or Philosophy

    Romney also put the Utah Olympics in the black when they were in the red when the Olympics were in Utah

    • Karolyn

      So Romney is the antichrist! :-)

      • James

        No, but you’re still and idiot….

  • Jay

    Mitt Romney, the Republican candidate for president, is the former governor of Massachusetts. There has been some confusion in the media recently because another politician by the same name was also the governor of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Massachusetts, before it broke off from the USSR and became the independent People’s Republic of Massachusetts. This confusion has been the source of much slander against the Republican, because the stances of the two men are so diametrically opposed that if they were the same person then they would have no clear stance on anything.

    For example:

    “Abortion is a good thing. My mother wanted to abort me but it was illegal at the time, so instead she died giving birth. It should have been me.”
    - Mitt Romney, Governor of Massachusetts

    “Abortion is always murder. Abortion doctors should be tried and executed for what they do to innocent children. There is no excuse for it. Even if the mother’s life is in danger, she should be willing to take the risk for the life of the child.”
    - Mitt Romney, Governor of Mexico

    “Not only should gays get married, but ONLY gays should get married, and all straight people should be forced to have gay sex and marry people of the same gender. Being gay is the only way to go. In fact, that’s why I’m gay.”
    - Mitt Romney, Governor of Massachusetts

    “Gays are horrible evil people. They are worse than Satan. Anyone who has ever so much as had a gay dream should be strung up and executed on the spot. I will personally pistol-whip every queer in America if I’m elected.”
    - Mitt Romney, Governor of Mexico

    Clearly, the two stances are irreconcilable and it’s inconceivable that they would both have been uttered by the same man, unless he was a schizophrenic psychopath.

    The fact that they are actually two different people, however, explains the situation entirely and with no contradiction.

    • Joan

      Jay you really are a sick liberal….just stop and think what the hell your saying? Would you rather have a mormon or a muslim for Pres? We tried the muslim and look what it’s done to our country. Don’t know how any of you liberals can’t see what is in store for us if Odummer is re-elected. Hope you don’t have a mother, sister, wife, daughter because they will be under muslin rule and you know what the muslims think about women….99% of the things you liberals say Romney has said is NOT true…just your underhanded way of trying to get your “KING” re-elected.

    • Vigilant

      Jay, you’re guilty of a few transgressions here.

      First, you are guilty of plagiarism. You post something lifted verbatim off the Internet and fail to accredit it. Your ridiculous posting is word-for-word from

      The fact that you post it as a legitimate list of quotations is entirely dishonest. There’s no indication in your posting whatsoever that you know these quotes to be a spoof. Romney, obviously, would never have said such ridiculous things.

      Your hatred of the LDS runs so deep you can’t even tell the difference between a spoof and reality.

      • Jay

        The quotes were tongue in cheek, obviously not verbatim. The point of the quotes(exaggerated) was to point out the flip-flopping that is so typical of Mitt, “The lying Mormon”. I thought that was rather obvious. Yes, at times i do forget to paste the link for the article.

  • DA’MAN


    • Karolyn

      Once again, sour grapes! God forbid ANYTHING good happens under Obama. You people won’t accept it because it doesn’t suit your agenda.

  • Jay

    Why are Romney supporters so incredibly stupid? -Written and posted by Angela

    More aptly put, why are Americans so deluded by this herd mentality that the obvious is ignored. The only ones who believe in a 2 party system is the American voter, the elitist hierarchy is aware there is but one..them.

    While everyone fights amongst themselves about issues presented by hand picked potential leaders, America loses one freedom after another.

    Wake the heck up America..revolt intellectually not physically, re-possess your OWN minds and opinions and use your God given common sense. If you’re looking for an elected power broker to solve your problems, you better set the clock to about 2020. It’s NOT GOING to happen now.

    These elitists are sociopathic criminals..ALL OF THEM currently. Romney is Kerry and Bush is Obama, there IS NO difference. You need proof? Well there’s a lot, but begin with this tasty item:

    Research ALL executive orders from LBJ to Obama pertaining to losses in freedoms and the eventuality of martial law. The set up is now complete. WAKE UP!!

    Best Answer – Chosen by Asker.

    • Joan

      Jay, Jay, Jay……you are just a sick, misinformed liberal…sorry there is no hope for you.

      • Karolyn

        OMG! You new people. To say Jay is a liberal is like saying you’re voting for Obama! :-)

    • Scott

      What Jay shared is right on the money. There really is no difference between Obama and Romney. Both do want to take individual rights away from Americans. Jus like Bush with his Patriot Act, now Obama with his NDAA which by the way, Mitt said he would have signed. Now they can label American citzens as terrorists or, “associated forces” and lock u away indefinately without a trial !!! Both are working for a NWO that Bush Sr. called for back in like ’92, that will be based on the U.N. charter. the game is rigged. there is no lesser of two evils between the two. – and this is coming from a former Republican who figured it out when i saw that NWO speech on tv way back then and turned to my Mom and said, he is in on it! i finally quit voting for the “lesser of two evils” September 11, 2001. I knew it was an inside job right then to bring us into a NWO. Voted Constitution party (US taxpayers party in Michigan) in 2004 and 2008. Chuck Baldwin, former Baptist preacher from Florida. So in other words, a vote for either Obama or Romney, is a vote for the luciferian NWO. Peace…

  • Barry

    Sorry folks, that is all Obama has. He performed at his highest level of competence.
    The problem when you have claimed the race card all your life, been given a full ride at a Harvard school(no common sense is acceptable) for being a foreign exchange student.(That is why his school records are sealed). He is a typical ignorant Black that when called to have content and context, cannot compete. If any of you think for one second that is a racist statement you… my ignorant social media hypnotized fool, are the racist.. The election of Obama is the most racist ,treasonous act committed by the voting public and allowed by the corrupt elected criminals.

    • brett

      typical ignorant black is an elitist statement because, for reasons unknown, you are casting another in an inferior position, by signifying the difference of race, betrays your own ignorance, utilizing propagandistic back spin signifies your own submission.

      • Pathfinder1

        If I remember correctly, Obama is the one who played the race card first, and play it he did on numerous occasions. As an Illinois resident, We have had 4 more years of him than folks on a national level have. He has always said and done whatever
        to took to destroy the competition , both democrat and republican and his Chicago supporters were not beyond breaking the law and in the IL. Jim Ryan senatorial race. This Obama that you see in public, is not the one that operates behind the scenes.
        It is sad that this Pied Piper of a president wasn’t vetted by the media and press. The media has covered Obama favorably to a fault because they wanted a black president and history to be made. The press/media are as corrupt as Obama, Blago, Reznick, Axelrod, Jarret and the rest of the Chicago cabal. Historians well have a field day with Obama when the dust has settled on his presidency, which hopefully is Jan, 21,2013.

      • http://none Claire

        As an Illinois resident, I am not too thrilled with the Republicans either.

      • netandyawho

        Obama s a complete and disgusting failure to Americans and to his own races, both black and white! If his races put America first and don’t vote for him because he is one of them, then I am sure he will lose the election!

      • eddie47d

        Mr Netandyawho, So you will vote for the con artist and business swindler who achieved his wealth through nefarious methods? Will you vote for Romney because he is white and “one of them”. Romney having buckets of money doesn’t make him a winner or his flip flopping on every single issue doesn’t bode well in his credibility department either.

      • Palin16

        Pathfinder, you’re right about Obama playing the race card on more than one occasion. According to his autobiography, he said “at the age of 12 or 13, I stopped talking about my mother’s race, less I appear to be ingratiating myself to white people.” I found that a bit odd, being that his black father abandoned him as a baby, leaving his white mother to care for him. Later on, he referred to his grandmother as “a typical white person.”

      • Matrix


        Please enlighten me on any school, county, city, state, or country that has a black leader and is thriving and not corrupt…..

        The sad fact is you can’t.

        The truth is that the entire black culture is so extremely ignorant, as if the African experience is not enough proof, look to the rest of the world where they as a people have been placed, and you notice no difference, at every level in every society, the ignorance is overwhelmingly fact.

        You have been brainwashed to believe that the evil white man created this human dysfunction, but it’s another sad fact that slavery is still alive and well in Africa and the Middle East because of ignorant liberal Americans like yourself.

        Fact here in America, where 54% of whites say they will vote for Romney, while 46% say obama…….

        94% of blacks say they will vote for obama, while 0% say romney…..

        Racism is extremely alive and well in the most ignorant black community.

        Read the “Bell Curve” and explain where the author is wrong…..

      • Matrix


        And I’m sure you think me a racist….

        In your and every other ignorant liberals mind I might be…..Yet

        I am a true American, a true black American that fought with my fellow black, white, Spanish, Asian and many other cultures that so many of you liberals hate.

        The facts are extremely distorted by those who wish you harm, I don’t…..But
        The truth will set you free….and only the truth, no matter how terrible it is….

        Look up to real black Americans, like Allen West, for truth and real freedom!

        Not a half-breed false Messiah that reads well, talks the talk, but never walked the walk!

      • eddie47d

        You don’t get around much do you Matrix? I’ve seen blacks like you that hate other blacks and for the most part hang with only whites. If that is your thing then I won’t stop you but you showed ignorance in your first sentence. I live in Denver and we had Mayor Wellington Webb who was well respected and now we have Mayor Hancock . Denver was and is doing well so that blows your comment to hell. We do have an occasional corrupt/out of control cop to talk about but Mayor Hancock is addressing that minor problem.

      • Palin16

        edduh is that thin air in Denver depriving your brain of oxygen like it did to Obummer?

  • Dave

    Historians will have a field day with Obama when the dust has settled

    Trouble is, no one will believe it.

    (BTW, “Rezko”, not “Reznick”)

  • netandyawho

    Obama s a complete and disgusting failure to Americans and to his own races, both black and white! If his races put America first and don’t vote for him because he is one of them, then I am sure he will lose the election!

  • http://yahoo Tommy

    High altitude right, i’m so sick of all the lame excuses.

  • chuckb

    it still goes back to the same old thing, we have a tremendous amount of people who fall for con artist such as barry soetoro. fox news interviewed him after he signed the healthcare bill, bill o’reilly questioned him about some of the legislation, he couldn’t answer simple questions, his reply, i’ll get back to you on that one. this is the guy who stood in front of the people and told them what a great thing this bill is.
    maybe these bolsheviks should think up a new party instead of one of lies, distortion and corruptness, their president is deceptive and not qualified. someone commented earlier if he was sent back to kenya it would lower their iq standard..

    • Palin16

      The democrats should rename their party “the Gay Socialist’s Party”.

    • eddie47d

      Then should the Republicans be renamed the anti-gay Fascist Party?

  • Jay

    When George Romney, Mitt’s father, made his aborted run for President in 1968, there was a lot in internal LDS talk about the last days prophecies that the US constitution would hang by a thread to be saved by the elders of the LDS church. Many felt that the day had finally arrived for the actual “Kingdom of God” to be established.

    This pure form of theocratic, prophet led government would prepare the way for the ushering in of the millennium, the time when Jesus would return to earth, sit in his temple in Missouri to reign over the earth, with the center of His government operated as the “Kingdom of God” on earth.

    The actual background for all these whispered conversations came from much of the historical documents of the church and the speeches of many of the early church authorities.

    It goes something like this. Joseph Smith implemented a program called the United Order in the church… It was a plan of sharing… everything in common, all properties and wealth turned over and owned by the church and dispersed by the Brethren to the people on an as needed basis with a requirement for good stewardship or loss of use.

    It was called the “Kingdom of God.” It was people living as God ordained under the United Order. However, it failed.

    It was later determined that it could only work when both the secular and ecclesiastic functions operated under one authority… An LDS prophet ruling over a theocratic government where eternal commandments like the United Order and plural marriage and blood atonement would function within “The Kingdom of God”

    That Theocracy would come into existence when the US Constitution would hang by a thread and the Mormon elders would be there to save it and the country and thereby usher in The Kingdom of God, the prophesied Mormon theocracy.

    On December 7, 1968 Elder Hugh B. Brown presided over the groundbreaking of the LDS Washington D.C. Temple. It was dedicated in November 1974 by the prophet, Spencer W. Kimball.

    The unique thing about this temple that struck me as singularly important was the design and furnishing of a large room on the upper floor. A photograph of this room is in the film, The Godmakers. It was set to house a presiding governing body.

    It is my own personal belief that it was designed as the place where the theocratic government of God would conduct its business, with the prophet in His place of authority.

    Now we jump ahead 40 years to 2007… and the 2008 Presidential election. A whole generation has passed and the son of George Romney has risen to the top of the list of Mormons who would qualify to take that run at the Oval Office and perhaps be in the right place as President or Vice President as the Constitution hangs by that foretold thread… and be there to call upon the elders, the Brethren to save the nation and soon usher in the “Kingdom of God.”

    Far fetched… I would agree that I sound like a man shouting fire in a theatre, but, as you will read, I am talking about valid LDS end-times teachings…

    You will also see that Mitt Romney has been raised and trained for this day. His family has been in the church for generations. He is the great grandson of polygamists Gaskell Romney and Anna Amelia Pratt.

    Mitt Romney is a Temple Mormon, a High Priest, and as such he has sworn blood oaths of sacrifice, obedience and consecration to the church and the “Kingdom of God.” His perfect obedience to these laws will allow him to become a god in the next life, the literal father of the peoples of a new and different earth. He is truly a Presidential candidate with an actual, definable god complex.

    On February 12, 2007, as Mitt Romney announced that he would run for the office of President, he commented in a USA Today, article, Will Mormon faith hurt bid for White House? By Jill Lawrence, that…

    … It is not his job as a presidential candidate to educate people about his church. “I’m running for a secular position,” he said in an interview. “I subscribe to what Abraham Lincoln called America’s political religion. The Constitution and the rule of law are the highest promises I would make in taking the oath of office.”

    Mitt Romney’s LDS understanding of the U.S. Constitution and its divine role in the end times is not that of the average American.

    Mitt Romney is a nice looking man, successful in the business world, with core values of family, church and faith. He does not smoke, drink or even touch coffee or tea. He has been married to the same woman for decades. He seems like the cure for dealing with the corruption of our national leadership. What could possibly be wrong in having such a man as our President? Let’s look at some of the reasons his presidency could be the end of America as we know it… option=com_content&view=article&id=319:the-mormon-plan-for-america-and-the-rise-of-mitt-romney&catid=74:mormonism&Itemid=125

    • Jay

      Sorry folks, this is the actual link below. Do not click on the upper portion of the highlighted link above!!!


  • chuckb

    jay, i don’t think you have anything to worry about with romney. wouldn’t it be worse if barry wins another term and we end up as a communist nation., something like venezuela, cuba or maybe lose the country all together. as far as religions go, we have a muslim sitting in the white house and i’ll take the mormons any day over the carpet crawlers

    • Jay

      You know damn well chuckb that i do not support Obama! Nothing to worry about Romney, “The-flip-flopping-Mormon”? I beg to differ…i think we have plenty to worry about with regards to his “Preztel-politics”! How can you trust someone who speaks out of both sides of his mouth? Quite frankly, i wish it had been someone else that had disarmed the current potus at the debates. That fact that it was “The-flip-flopping-mormon”, renders the victory hollow!

  • Matrix


    I understand your frustration as a libertarian, and like the thought of Ron Paul as President of these United States, but the fact is Ron has no chance of ever being President,…. but his son does.

    My hope for this country is a loss for obama, which will be a win for Rand or any other free candidate in the future of America.

    One fact I will tell you now, is if the obama is falsely re-elected, which I believe will happen, your entire world as you have come to know it will end.

    As the saying goes, “be careful what you wish for”……….Choose your battles wisely…..

  • Arthur Fonzarelli

    While Oblamo was smoking marijuana all through school (fact…look it up…but don’t expect the main-stream media to report it) Romney was studying and working hard.
    Romney couldn’t count on an ‘affirmative action’ racial QUOTA to get him into an Ivy League school (he had to earn it)….

    • Karolyn

      Who cares if he smoked pot? Because maybe YOU never experimented or wweren’t a rebel means something? Even if he is a Mormon, I’m sure Mitt wasn’t an angel.

      • sam1966

        I never experimented with anything, so what’s your point? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님과 국가 대 한!

        You need both love of country and fear of God to be a patriot.

    • eddie47d

      Besides Romney’s father was somewhat well off and had more upfront connections than Obama did in his early years.

  • chuckb

    he probably is still puffin on weed, it was evident the other night during the debate, he couldn’t remember his lines. the problem is most of the hop heads will vote for him regardless, it’s the freebies. the boshevik party lives on this vote and romney was probably wrong on the 47%ers i’m afraid it’s larger than he suggests, he should have never apologized for that remark, apologies suggest weakness it wouldn’t have caused such an up roar from the entitlement society if it wasn’t true.

    • eddie47d

      It is true that Republicans don’t apologize for anything if they can get away with it. They just bury the “facts” deeper because as you said they don’t want to be “weak”. Fortunately Romney got busted so he had to save face and fess up.Nixon wouldn’t fess up or apologize for a long time and look where that got him and his boys.

  • chuckb

    eddie47, did you concern yourself as much with barry when he ran for president as you do romney? how do you figure romney got busted, what he said was true and even short of the actual figure. i don’t understand why he apologized, i guess he’s just a nice person.
    the problem you and your cohorts have with romney, he’s clean and a decent person, can you say the same for barry, do you want me to list the major outright lies this guy spouted out to the nation, the latest being libya. he, hillary and rice should be removed, he was tampering with national security and all three lied to the country in causing the death of four american citizens . did nixon come anywhere close to causing such a situation. nixon was a saint compared to bill clinton or barry. so much for that.

  • Palin16

    anti-gay? You betcha! Fascist? Nope, I leave that to you leftwingers.

  • Idylewylde

    I spotted the exact moment when Obama folded … when Mitt called his fiscal policy ‘Trickle Down Government’.
    Watch the vid replay. Watch Obama’s eyes. From that moment on, he was a deflated windbag. The fight was gone. He was a walking TKO.
    Obama is terrified that ‘Trickle Down Government’ will become the mantra of the RNC … it reminds us where the ‘Stimulus’ went … Wall Street, not Main Street.

  • Palin16

    Obummer: “Don’t blow a buncha cash on Vegas”

  • coitus coulter

    My oh my… rarified air did that to nObambi??? Imagine what would happen if he quit doing all those drugs???


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