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Obama’s Latest Joke

February 16, 2011 by  

Obama’s Latest Joke

For President Barack Obama, the traveling public’s concerns over the Transportation Security Administration’s 4th Amendment-violating policies are a big joke.

At his Jan. 25 State of the Union Address, Obama chuckled after his pronouncement that he wanted to “invest” (code for print more money and throw it at another boondoggle) billions of dollars in high speed rail.  “For some trips, it will be faster than flying… without the pat downs,” Obama joked.

Of course, Obama’s cute joke falls flat in the face of Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano’s statements that radiation scanners and pat downs are being implemented at bus and train stations and sporting events. So, Mr. and Mrs. Traveler, the real joke’s on you because, get this, Obama’s latest budget increases Federal Spending on the DHS by $37 billion, earmarking the funds to place more naked body scanners in airports across the country. (And that’s on top of the other billions he wants to waste on his pet projects as he seeks to accelerate the crash of the dollar, but that’s a topic for another day.)

That’s $37 billion to select companies with government ties designed to force travelers to submit to being irradiated by machines that have shown dubious effectiveness at spotting explosives and have not been adequately tested as to the hazard they pose to travelers or operators.

Government’s false flag terror operations — more evidence of them surfaced yesterday when it was revealed the “terrorist” behind England’s 7/7 terror attacks was a United States informant and was released from prison after serving only four and a half years of a 70-year sentence because of his “cooperation” — have succeeded in duping the general public into believing the government is acting in their best interests.

But government is interested in one thing only: Creating a totalitarian police state that controls every move of the masses. And for Obama and the other elites in our government thugocracy, that’s very funny.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • TIME

    People; Barry is only the SYMPTOM, he is a clear picture of whats really wrong with our nation. Thus the picture is really quite clear we have a very sick nation, that will fall for anything!

    Whats even worse is they will defend their mistakes even if it KILLS THEM! That is rather than admit they may have been wrong.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


      Actually they will defend their mistakes even if it kills us.

      • Lewis Munn

        Old Henry, too true to be funny.

        We need to make our government obey their own rules 100%, even if it is inconvenient. NO exceptions.

        Make Obama and family get scanned each flight he takes, even on government planes. You never can tell!

        • Andrea B


          That’s an excellent idea!!

          We should DEMAND that Barry, Michelle, and the girls are scanned AND groped EVERYTIME they board AirForce One!! I mean, logically speaking, they haven’t proven beyond a doubt that he’s even eligible to be POTUS, and they would check any other citizen that wanted to board the plane, so in the spirit of ‘equality’ and ‘taking one for the team’ and ‘transparency,’ I say the Oblahblah’s should ALL be REQUIRED to be scanned and groped before every flight!

          We really should spread this idea…if it’s soooo harmless and nobody else in the country can tell the TSA not to fondle their teenaged girls, then they shouldn’t be exempt from it either!!

          • Richard

            Sadly, I have flown my last flight unless I can lease a small craft. These radiation dectectors at airports are a joke but it’s always about the money and like cell phones and brain tumors you will find out how damaging they are in a few years. It seems that congress doesn’t want us to travel anywhere. Well, they have convinced me. If I can’t drive there in two days than forget it.

          • Lastmanstanding

            Andrea. Now you know that the rules are for the rest of us. Not the socialist…

          • Mac

            I’m with Richard. I will not fly the commercial airlines again until the nonsense of the TSA is over. Considering every passenger as a criminal is beyond reason. If I can’t get there by driving, I’m not going.

            As for the president’s statement: “For some trips, it will be faster than flying… without the pat downs,” just wait and see how long before the X-rays and pat-downs become mandatory for rail and even bus travel, too.

      • denden7

        Old Henry you are right on. These fantasy new agers won’t realize their folly until it is too late. Better it be too late for them only and not the rest of us.

    • EddieW

      He is totally in favor of scrapping the Constitution, implementing a Police State, where you have NO rights…Only the big shot politico’s would have rights…and it’s coming!!! It won’t affect him, so he can laugh at us!! Please Pray we can keep our Constitution, and Family Values…Both are slated for destruction!! Then we will have no foundation!! It will be a tyranny far worse than Germany!!

      • JCj

        It’s all further to this plan as spelled out by David Rockefeller a long time ago….
        Obama is just the latest Meat Puppet on the Podium.

        “We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years.”
        “It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
        David Rockefeller (at a Bilderberger Meeting)

        • leeS

          i hope all the bilderbergs enjoy a good BBQ because hell is reserved for those who trod upon workers, who take wages from workers who oppress the poor, the widows, the orphans. It’s all in the Holy Bible.
          Life is short on earth but eternity is forever.


      What is really scary is that this pseudo intellectual man/child thinks everything is funny. It seems like he is on some kind of trip, who knows what, and finds it hard to be serious unless he is pissed off about something.

  • s c

    Obama seems to have a warped, schizoid sense of humor. It might be funny on a mental ward, but his brand of humor has no place in the White House – or Congress.
    It wouldn’t take much to see if a no-talent standup comedian is needed in Cuba or North Korea. Without a doubt, he could have them screaming with laughter in 24 hours or less (barring translation problems, of course).

    • Doc Sarvis

      VERY few, if any, conservatives were upset with President Bush’s “where are the Weapons of Mass Distruction” skit while American soldiers were getting killed in his trumped up war in Iraq.

      • TIME

        doc’ie po – Yea thats right, and you’re proof of you’re statment is what again?

        Oh thats right the crap on a stick you posted so it must be true, after all you said so, get over you’re self.

        You’re rhetoric is as worthless as ten day old Road apples.

        • Doc Sarvis

          I didn’t realize you were such an expert on old road apples. You must be proud of yourself.

          • TIME

            And yet again you failed to make any point at all, I guess that makes you not only pointless but over opinionated as well.

            You like you’re paint brush thing I see, as you used that now today at least three times. Thats even with facts that are on film.

            So – Again please explain how you have such great knoledge of what others did or didn’t do. Or is that not clear enough for you DOCeee?

          • Doc Sarvis

            Time, you requested that I; “So – Again please explain how you have such great knoledge of what others did or didn’t do.”
            My answer is direct and objective observation.

          • Doc Sarvis

            I am pretty sure I have only used the broad paint brush phrase twice today. And I used it appropriatly with great effect – apparently.

          • TIME

            A rather funny quib that fits doc quite well;

            “There is nothing wrong with him that reincarnation won’t cure.”

          • newland65

            yo,,doc,and time, go out in the school yard and have you’re little battle,, look to what is happining in the middle east,and you will see where all of this is going..they want freedom,and are willing to die for it.Law maker’s could give a squat what the johnQ public want’s. It don’t matter what country they are from,, they got their’s,so let the chip’s fall where they may.One just has’t to look at all the head’s of state and the wealth that they have unmasted.. they all are rich,and dont care who they hurt to get it.

          • Vicki

            Doc Sarvis says:
            “My answer is direct and objective observation.”

            If you really are a Doc you know what a sample size is. Please disclose your sample size.

        • s c

          Time, you could ask D why it is that it’s so WRONG and so IMMORAL for a RINO to start a war, but it’s wonderfully peachy, keen dandy for a progressive to stay in it, get attached to it and REFUSE to get OUT of it.
          Could it be that The Anointed One is secretly looking for WMDs? Is he protecting oil interests on the sly? Is he a closet conservative? Whatever the answer is, he sure knows how to recruit and brainwash his mindless followers.

          • Doc Sarvis

            If you are referring to President Obama, he is definitly more of a conservative than a liberal.

          • DaveH

            Please. I know you are not that ignorant. Why make such statements? Are you just trying to provoke Time?

            Obama is far away from being Conservative by any definition of Conservative.

          • 45caliber


            Not if you are more liberal than Oblama is. There are a few, although not many, who fit that category.

          • eddie47d

            SC; I thought I explained why Obama is still in those wars.False flag patriotism! Damn if he does and damn if he doesn’t.The Right would slam him for “cutting and running” or we need “peace with honor” or “we must stay for the troops”.

          • Vicki

            eddie47d says:
            “SC; I thought I explained why Obama is still in those wars.False flag patriotism! Damn if he does and damn if he doesn’t.”

            So he DID lie when he said he would end the war. What a surprise. A politician who is lying when his lips move.

          • Lewis Munn

            Could well be he is. So he can use them on any US population centers that do not vote or behave the way he wants.

            A few dozen WMDs set up on the White House lawn ready to be targeted and fired would really make the Conservatives sit up and think!

          • 45caliber


            Why set them on the White House lawn when he already has control of the firing buttons on all those existing?

          • eddie47d

            Yes Vickie you would be the first to accuse Obama of cutting and running if he left Iraq.

      • DaveH

        I realize the term “Conservative” has been muddied tremendously, as has the term “Liberal” over the decades.
        True Conservatives believe in the Constitution, and the Freedom which it established, and other Principles which were well established by our Founders writings. One of those Principles was to stay out of other countries’ business.
        I know you probably really mean right-wingers, those people who embrace the Big Government military state, and many other forms of force on people just minding their own everyday lives.
        But I do wish in the future that you would just use the term right-winger to be a little clearer.

        • Teresa

          Doc, It is a FACT that Holder and Clinton are guilty of crimes of torture far exceeding former President Bush, why do we not hear of them????

          • eddie47d

            Okay let’s hear about them?

          • Teresa

            In 1997, after Holder became Deputy Attorney General, Justice Department prosecutors realized they had no legal right to hold Qassim. Holder, according to our source, went to see President Clinton and told him about the problem with holding Qassim in the United States, stressing that the United States was legally bound to release Qassim.

            Clinton told Holder to send Qassim to someone else. Holder arranged to have Qassim flown to Egypt where he was put into a small crate, tortured, and eventually executed by Egyptian authorities.

            Holder has long been a coddler of torturous regimes. In 2004, while a partner with Covington and Burling, Holder worked out a plea agreement for his client, Chiquita Brands International, in which the firm agreed to pay a fine of $25 million for making cash payments to the Colombian right-wing death squad paramilitary force, the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia. The AUC carried out systematic assassinations of trade union activists, peasants, politicians, and leftist guerrillas in Colombia.

            In July 1998, Holder signed off on the transport of two members of the Egyptian Jihad, captured by Albanian security forces in Albania, to Cairo by the CIA on a chartered extraordinary rendition aircraft. The Egyptians were tortured and executed.

            Egyptian torture methods included hanging prisoners by all four limbs and placing electric nodules on their genitals, nipples, and feet. The CIA paid Egypt handsomely to carry out the torture program.

            Holder and White House chief of staff Leon Panetta had signed off on the CIA’s pre-9/11 rendition program with Egypt. During his confirmation hearings for Attorney General in May 2009, Holder was asked by Senators Lamar Alexander (R-TN) and Richard Shelby (R-AL) about his role in renditions as Deputy Attorney General for Clinton.

            Holder admitted that extraordinary renditions occurred during the Clinton administration. However, neither Alexander nor Shelby asked Holder how many individuals were renditioned during his time as Deputy Attorney General. Holder was also not asked what torture countries received the kidnapped prisoners from the United States.

            WMR has learned that George W. Bush’s chief policy adviser, Karl Rove, restrained Republican senators from delving into too many details with Holder at his confirmation hearing.

            Rove was aware that the Bush administration also used Egypt as a renditioned prisoner recipient country. But Rove was also concerned about secrets being revealed about his own deals with Sweden to turn terrorist suspects over to the CIA for subsequent torture in Egypt.

            In December 2001, Sweden arrested Ahmed Agiza and Muhammad al-Zery, two Egyptian asylum seekers who lived in Sweden.

            Delivered to CIA agents at Bromma airport outside of Stockholm, the two Egyptians were handcuffed and chained after having suppositories containing drugs inserted into their anuses. The two Egyptians were then flown to Cairo where they were imprisoned and tortured. The rendition plane used was a Gulfstream V, owned by Premier Executive Transport Services, a CIA front company located in Dedham, Massachusetts. The tail number is N379P.

            The Swedish parliament and the UN later determined that Sweden violated Swedish and international law, respectively, by transferring the two Egyptians to the CIA and, ultimately to Egypt. Al Zery received $500,000 in compensation from the Swedish government.

            Rove has known Holder since President Reagan appointed him as a judge on the Superior Court of the District of Columbia in 1988.

            All of Reagan’s judicial appointments were subject to vetting by Rove and his friends in the right-wing Federalist Society.

            CIA’s rendition program started under President Clinton and with Eric Holder’s approval.

            Rove, who has had a long relationship with Sweden, reportedly phoned then-Swedish Prime Minister Goran Persson and told him that Sweden must hand Agiza and al-Zehy over to the United States.

            WMR has learned from our source that Swedish Foreign Minister Anna Lindh also received a personal phone call and e-mail from Rove in which it was demanded that the two Egyptians be turned over to the Americans.

            Lindh was apparently opposed to the request but was overruled by Persson, who was a friend of Bill Clinton and a champion of Clinton’s and British Prime Minister Tony Blair’s “Third Way’ globalist movement.

            Lindh was stabbed by an assailant in Stockholm on September 10, 2003 and she died from her wounds on September 11. A Serbian-Swede was found guilty of the murder but his conviction was later overturned after he was pronounced mentally ill.

            There are suspicions that Lindh, an outspoken critic of America’s invasion of Iraq and Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, was assassinated by CIA or Egyptian agents who were worried about her knowledge of the CIA’s Egyptian and other rendition programs.

            The man who ran Egypt’s torture program on behalf of the CIA was Omar Suleiman, the feared head of the Egyptian General Intelligence Directorate (EGID), who was named by President Hosni Mubarak as Vice President after the popular rebellion against Mubarak’s regime swept Egypt.

            Suleiman was a recipient of large cash payments from the CIA for EGID’s torture of prisoners delivered to Egypt by the CIA under both the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations.

            Suleiman also maintained close contacts with Mossad on issues dealing with Palestine and Syria. Suleiman also served as a member of a CIA-sponsored group of Arab intelligence service chiefs working against Iran. The group included Suleiman, CIA director Michael Hayden, Jordanian chief Mohamed Dahabi, Saudi intelligence head Prince Moqrin bin Abdulaziz, and United Arab Emirates national security council head Sheikh Hazaa bin Zayed al Nahyan.

            In 2001, Suleiman personally witnessed the torture of Mamdouh Habib, an Australian citizen renditioned by the CIA from Pakistan to Egypt. Habib was given repeated electric shocks, beaten, and waterboarded as Suleiman looked on. Habib was eventually renditioned again by the CIA from Egypt to Guantanamo, his “confession,” obtained under Suleiman’s torture techniques, used against him by the United States.

            In December 2009, Suleiman traveled to Israel to meet with Netanyahu, Israeli President Shimon Peres, Mossad chief Meir Dagan, Defense Minister Ehud Barak, and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman. Israel had extended an open door to Suleiman and he made several trips to Israel during his tenure as Egypt’s top spy. It was Suleiman who tightened Egypt’s border controls on Gaza, furthering the misery of the people of the world’s largest engineered ghetto.

            In 1993, Suleiman ordered his intelligence service to conduct a “census” of all “Arab-Afghans” living in Peshawar, Pakistan, and surrounding areas. They were all veterans of the CIA mujaheddin war against the Soviets in Afghanistan — Egyptians, Libyans, Yemenis, Jordanians, Palestinians, Algerians, Sudanese, Bahrainis, Tunisians.

            The census database soon contained thousands of names and Suleiman and his colleague, Saudi intelligence chief Prince Turki bin Faisal, added additional names of Pakistani and Afghan supporters of such Islamist groups as Harkatul Ansar and Ahl al -Hadith, all of whom came under the operational control of CIA and British MI-6 Afghanistan field operative, Osama Bin Laden.

            British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook wrote about the census database in The Guardian on July 8, 2005, “Al-Qaida, literally ‘the database,’ was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.”

            In fact, by conducting the census of the “Arab-Afghans” in Pakistan, the actual founder of “Al Qaeda” is the new Vice President of Egypt, Israel’s closest Egyptian friend, Omar Suleiman.

            No wonder, Mubarak had to cover his tracks by revealing in June 2002, that Suleiman warned his CIA counterparts a week before 9/11 that Bin Laden was in the final stages of launching a major attack on the United States but that no one realized that the plan included the use of passenger planes to attack buildings.

            Mubarak’s and Suleiman’s “plausible deniability” protected themselves and the Israelis, especially important since “lead hijacker” Mohammad Atta, was supposedly an Egyptian.

            Regardless of the statements from President Obama that Mubarak must leave office “now,” it is clear that the waffling by the Obama administration is intended to buy time for the CIA to appropriate the Egyptian government’s torture and rendition files that date back to Holder’s original authorization of the program.

            Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s major goal is to limit the damage to her husband from any disclosure of documents by a new Egyptian reform government about her husband’s role in the CIA’s use of Egypt to detain and torture prisoners.

            CIA director Leon Panetta is also trying to avoid the torture rap from his time as President Clinton’s chief of staff.

            The CIA has embarked on a policy of suppressing the Egyptian revolution until all potentially embarrassing documents and computer files held by Suleiman’s EGID and other Egyptian government agencies can be successfully removed from Egypt to the United States.

            The CIA recalls how partially shredded and un-shredded classified CIA documents at the U.S. embassy in Tehran were obtained by students who took over the embassy and, unlike the suspiciously-redacted Wikileaks cables, were soon published for the world to see, CIA agents names and all.

            In fact, the long-cut shredders used to destroy the documents were a blessing for the Iranians who handed the spaghetti-like shreds to Iran’s best carpet weavers to reconstruct them in practically their original form.

            The EGID and other Egyptian intelligence and security agencies have likely amassed tons of files on CIA activities over the past several decades and the potential for the release of documents concerning all the CIA operations that involved Egypt — the 1980 October Surprise, Iran-contra, CIA arms smuggler Edwin Wilson’s operations in Libya, repeated covert efforts against Saddam Hussein in Iraq, arms smuggling by the CIA to other African nations through the warehouse at Cairo West airport, and the CIA’s nurturing of “Al Qaeda” for the mujaheddin war in Afghanistan and 9/11 — has Langley shaking over the possibility that a reform government will reveal the dirty little secrets of the CIA and successive American presidents going back to Ronald Reagan.

            The CIA has been behind the scenes in Egypt advising the security forces and army on suppressing the popular uprising in order to delay the clock for Mubarak and his regime.

            The International Network for Rights and Development reported that three Israeli cargo planes arrived at Cairo’s Mina International Airport on January 28 carrying large amounts of gas used for dispersing large crowds.

            There were also reports of U.S. and Israeli counter-insurgency personnel being dispatched to Egypt to assist the regime in suppressing the rebellion.

            Other reports emanating from Egypt claimed that Israeli professional provocateurs were among the pro-Mubarak “demonstrators” who attacked peaceful demonstrators in Tahrir Square, resulting in an outbreak of deadly violence on February 3.

            Israel has a long history of such activities in Egypt, including the infamous 1954 Lavon affair that, if successful, would have seen “false flag” Israeli terrorist attacks on U.S. targets in Cairo that would later be blamed on Egypt, eliciting a military response by the United States on Egypt.

            The CIA has a special procurement program that is used to buy sensitive items from foreign governments. “Sterility codes” are used by the CIA to designate the “degree of traceability” that is used for the procurement of off-shore purchases of foreign items, such as crowd control gas from Israel for use by Egypt.

            The records of the purchases are likely to be found in “Local Procurement” records maintained by the CIA stations in Cairo and Tel Aviv.

            The CIA’s last-ditch support for the Mubarak regime is strikingly similar to its support for the Shah of Iran in his final days in power.

            As with the revolt against Mubarak in Egypt, the uprising against Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi in 1978 came as a shock to the CIA. On December 2, 1978, two million people filled Tehran’s Shahyad (now Azadi) Square demanding that the Shah step down.

            Almost two million people similarly filled Cairo’s Tahrir Square demanding that Mubarak step down.

            In the months preceding the mass demonstration in Tehran, Iranian security forces massacred thousands of people. Iranian opposition forces claimed that Israel’s Mossad provided assistance for the massacres to Iran’s feared SAVAK security agency.

            The CIA, to the very end, also provided assistance to the Shah’s government. Some 75 CIA agents were dispatched to Iran along with more than a hundred private contractor operatives, all retired U.S. military and intelligence operatives.

            These agents worked closely with members of the Iranian military and SAVAK, many of whom had received training in the United States. Similarly, a number of Egyptian officers and non-commissioned officers, as well as EGID agents, received training in the United States.

            Just as President Obama dispatched Frank G. Wisner, Jr., former U.S. ambassador to Egypt and reputed CIA agent-of-influence, to talk to Mubarak, a close friend of Wisner, President Jimmy Carter, in November 1978, asked former U.S. ambassador to Iran and former CIA director Richard Helms, a personal friend of the Shah, to conduct liaison between the White House and the Shah.

            During his time as CIA director, Helms authorized the training of SAVAK officials in torture techniques. The CIA and Mossad coordinated their pro-Shah efforts in Iran.

            As the Shah’s position weakened, the Pentagon sent crowd control vehicles to Iran that were equipped with water cannons. Contingency plans were drawn up by the Pentagon and the National Security Council for the U.S. to dispatch troops to Iran to put down the popular rebellion and save the Shah and his Peacock Throne.

            SAVAK agents were also trained by the CIA to infiltrate anti-Shah groups and report on their plans. Other CIA provocateurs were believed to have infiltrated Iranian student groups that later took over the U.S. embassy in Tehran.

            There is a belief by many intelligence agents at the time that the most egregious incidents carried out by the students after they took over the embassy and held U.S. personnel hostage were committed by CIA and Mossad infiltrators bent on bringing about a swift U.S. military move against Iran and prevent Ayatollah Khomeini from taking power.

            In the world of the CIA, the playbook never seems to change.

            Along with the calls for Mubarak to step down now, there should be similar calls across the United States for Eric Holder to pack his bags and leave town.

          • eddie47d

            Thanks for the reply and this useful information.So many guilty parties and like I have said before torture seldom get’s the results you are looking for. I knew we sent detainees over to Egypt to be tortured but didn’t know of Israel’s involvement within Egypt. I also knew our CIA hired thugs in Columbia to kill union members.You mentioned several reasons why Mubarak should go and maybe be tried in world courts. Holder and Suleiman can join him. Suleiman isn’t fit to lead the Egyptian government after reading about his exploits. I’m not sure why the CIA felt it necessary to nurture al Qaeda in Afghanistan. The CIA got taken for a ride on that one and shows they will use any useful idiot.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


          It could be that Doc is so far to the left that Der Fuhrer really does look conservative to him. I guess since Stalin is dead Barry was the best that Soros could come up with.

        • Lewis Munn

          But the Left especially find it so much more fun to change the definitions from place to place to keep the confusion factors high, and maybe trap a confused conservative!

          Or verse visa.

          • DaveH

            Good point, Lewis.

      • Kathleen

        Still chewing on the Weapons of Mass Destruction, hey? Isn’t it interesting that the intelligence we and our allies were able to gather at the time all pointed in the direction of their (WMD) existence. France, England, Australia, others of our allied friends around the globe, all believed this to be true. Why does Bush alone always have to be the scapegoat? And what is really interesting is that when our intelligence gathering system fails, the Libs conveniently forget that it was Clinton who decimated the intelligence gathering capabilities of the CIA and FBI in the interests of ‘fairness.’

        • Bear

          That’s right Kathleen. Not only did he disassemble our intelligence network, he closed down military installations that weakened our nation’s defenses, gave sensative, top secret weapons delivery systems information to the Chinese and, “in fact, did have sex with that woman.” So, why the hell are we still seeing this traitor in the news? Why is he still performing duties for Obama? It seems like the liberals don’t know how to retire. They’re like “OLD LUGGAGE.” You just can’t seem to get rid of them.

          • 45caliber


            Clinton is running for office. He wants the job of the Secretary of the UN. The next person to get it comes from this hemisphere. And he hoped Hillary will be the next President as well. Can you imagine BOTH in office at the same time?

          • eddie47d

            Bear; Is that old luggage like Newt Gingrich?

          • Lewis Munn

            And like old luggage, it smells bad, and sometimes leaks important things.

          • Bear

            I’ll take Gingrich over Pelosi any day.

        • newland65

          you my dear,are a woman the I could really really get to like.. you put all the mess in a nut shell.. I don’t know how many people on this site have ever served in the military,but they should know about chain of command.. shit run’s down hill.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Doc… You should have said very few Americans were upset about this issue. After all, Congress voted on it. The liberals were in agreement, but they don’t get to take the credit (blame).

      • DOGS FIGHT

        AGREED. There is not enough blood in the world to satisfy the neocons and the neomarxists. More warmongering, more blood, and more slavery!!!

        • Lewis Munn

          Don’t worry. The liberals will get rid of the old conservatives through Obamacare.

      • JC

        very few Conservatives were upset…

        Really Doc? And how do you know that?
        I know I was pissed right off.
        But then I’m an advocate of the Constitution…
        which by the way does NOT automatically translate to Republican.
        Not any more.

      • marvin

        Doc Sarvis
        you moron their where WMD in irac it was called poison gas fact over 100,000 men womam and children murder by poison gas,now clean out your ears, nuclear yes i said NUCLEAR,is not the only thing under the WMD heading,as far as odumbo being more conseritive then liberal is like most of the dribble you post unbeliveable and just don,t add up to the facts

        • Rusticus

          I’m always amused when I see illiterates calling people morons who are clearly more intelligent than they are.

          Killing 100,000 people in the 1980′s does not translate into having poison gas in 2003. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

          • Vicki

            Rusticus says:
            “I’m always amused when I see illiterates calling people morons who are clearly more intelligent than they are.”

            I am even more amused when I see (pesudo)literates calling people illiterate.

            Rusticus says: “Killing 100,000 people in the 1980′s does not translate into having poison gas in 2003.”

            It does however provide proof that WMDs did exist in Iraq. Gassing Kurds in the 1990′s provides further proof that WMD’s did exist in Iraq. Absent any evidence they were removed or destroyed it is logical to assume they were still in Iraq.

            Rusticus says: “There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.”
            Proof by bald assertion. At least those who claim there WERE WMD’s in Iraq have some facts to back up their assertion.

            Btw should you like to know what a fact looks like (this one’s for all you liberals)

            Notice it is a fact. It evidence that supports your bald assertion.

            It is also evidence that Bush et al acted in good faith to protect the US. I.E. Doing their job. We can stop blaming bush or the liberals that voted with bush. Of course the intelligence community looks bad but we already discussed haw a liberal admin decimated that community.

            Oh and of course it is only evidence not proof that there were NO WMDs in Iraq. Since WMD is very loosely defined it is going to be hard to prove.

            Early in 2001 some nice religious folk demonstrated that nearly every country in the world has WMD’s by destroying 2 huge buildings and killing over 3000 people using these unusual WMDs.

          • Lewis Munn

            But there was a report of a lot of junkyards in neighboring countries with a huge stock of cut up missile parts, tanks, etc. Never saw that refuted, just taken off the news suddenly.

        • JC

          And that being said…we might mention that Saddam was gassing Kurds on Clinton’s watch and nary a peep from the White House.
          Cuz he was our “buddy” back then right? You know, friendly to “US Interests”.

          This has been going on for a long time and it’s time it all stopped.

      • Vicki

        Doc Sarvis says:
        “VERY few, if any, conservatives were upset with President Bush’s “where are the Weapons of Mass Distruction” skit”

        Proof by bald assertion. How liberal. Time was not as nice but said the same thing. I did notice that Doc claimed his source later as “by observation”. So his statement could be restated as
        “VERY few, if any, conservatives I OBSERVED were upset with President Bush’s “where are the Weapons of Mass Distruction” skit”.

        So Doc. Just how many conservatives did you observe?

        • eddie47d

          Heck no Vickie they bought into it line hook and sinker.Bush and Cheney were smooth operators.

    • Louie

      S C, he’s warped, but he’s not intelligent enough to be a schizophrenic!!!

    • stevor

      Some psychologists have said that his weird personality might come from he being a sexually abused child, given that his “uncle Frank” was a known child abuser

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry


        Now that’s one I somehow have missed.

        Where did you get that information? I would like to read about it.

        If true, one would have to worry abut what is going on the the People’s House.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      I’m guessing Der Fuhrer’s teleprompter is multi-linguistic.

    • Andrea B

      I would give every penny I have to be able to smack him in the face with a salmon. That’s the only thing involving a salmon that I find even remotely funny…but Barry even thinks talking about fish is humorous. He’s such an idiot.

  • Dan az

    Really doc could you show me the stats on that I would luv to see the numbers!Now I guess Reagan is next right?

    • s c

      Dan az, I’ve seen all I need to see. For a while, I thought progressives just start out dumb and get dumber (with Gore as their role model). Now, I know that they can’t do what they “do” without daily pharamaceutical help.
      They are truly America’s Prozac Prophets. Sadly, this includes the Supreme Court, Congress and the White House.

      • Dan az

        Sad but true.

  • DaveH

    End this intrusion on our Liberty. Register and Vote Libertarian. We have the most Principled Party in the country. Our platform is simple. We believe a person has a right to control their own body and their own property. We believe nobody (that includes Government) has a right to trespass on the body and the property (that includes money) of another without permission from that person.
    For Individual Freedom, Personal Responsibility, Free Markets, and Limited Government:

  • Charles

    Heartbroken over the direction this White House is taking America.

    • DaveH

      There might be a silver lining to this cloud, Charles. I have never in my lifetime seen so many people motivated to learn about the Freedom that was established by our Founders. We may be on the precipice of a mass awakening to the Principles of Liberty and human rights. I’m hopeful.

      • JC

        That’s a fact. I know I try and educate (wake up) at least one person a day. And I know that many of them have gone on to do the same.

        • Dan az

          Me to its like a pyramid it just keeps growing and with the logic that the libs give here it just makes it allot easier for others to see why people are the way they are.

  • DaveH

    In my ideal country, no law could be passed without the approval of at least 3/4 of the people affected by the law. That way only rules that are truly important (such as those against murder) would be implemented. And people in Government would be subject to those same rules (no exceptions such as Diplomatic Immunity).

    • Louie

      DaveH, I totally agree with you.

    • Mary Kay Andrews

      Sorry, DaveH. We do not live in a democracy. We are a Representative Republic. As an intelligent person, I am sure you understand what I am saying. Your ideal country is not this one. I am a strong conservative and I do not want that type of government. It leads to lawlessness. democracy is a word that is thrown around a lot and most people do not realize what it really means. It is mob rule.
      Another thing, diplomatic immunity is for foreign diplomats, not citizens. The purpose of diplomatic immunity is so neither country involved will be fearful of a law that could harm each other’s diplomats.

      • 45caliber

        Democracy isn’t a bad government – despite what you say – as long as you aren’t one of the people who is always suing because someone is “taking away your rights”. A democracy is “rule by the majority”. In other words, if you don’t like their rule, court decisions don’t count. And I think that is why most liberals hate democracies. They can’t see any way to force the majority to do things their way.

        • Dean

          Democracies are crap and always have been, they are nothing new and were firmly rejected by our Founding Fathers!

          • JC

            AWESOME! and absolutely right!

          • eddie47d

            Dean; Not to refute what you said but do you believe that you have a right to vote> Do you believe that only certain elites should be allowed to vote and no one else should have a say? In a Democracy everyone has that right and in a Republic you may not have that right.

          • Vicki

            I watch democracy in action just the other day. I watched 15 people get together and vote on what to do with a truck. They voted 14-1 to tear it apart. They did. They voted 14-1 to burn it. They did. They voted 14 to 1 to beat up the driver. They did.

            Democracy has come to the sands of Egypt.

          • eddie47d

            How cleaver of you Vickie but Dean still didn’t answer my question. Democracies can be messy and Republics can be autocratic.Is there a better way or are we stuck throwing darts?

          • Vicki

            eddie47d says:
            “How cleaver of you Vickie”

            Thanks :)

            eddie47d: “Dean still didn’t answer my question. Democracies can be messy and Republics can be autocratic.Is there a better way or are we stuck throwing darts?”

            If you actually WATCHED the video I keep posting you would know the answer to that question. Here let me post it for you again

          • Dan az

            So eddie did you watch it?

          • JCj

            eddie, perhaps the aspect of a Republic that you are missing is “accountibility”. If one or more of our Statesmen were to commit an act not authorized by the Constitution they would be subject to punishment in a system of justice. Which might mean Prison Terms or Execution. I think that would keep them honest…don’t you?

        • Cawmun Cents

          As the wise man once said,”If you listen to fools,the mob rules!”

          • Vicki

            Democracy. 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner.

            A Constitutionally LIMITED Republic is a much better system. Tried at least twice in the history of the world and VERY VERY successful both times.


        • vicki

          45caliber says:
          “Democracy isn’t a bad government ”

          Democracy is VERY BAD government. “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself.” — John Adams

          • 45caliber

            Democracy – two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for dinner

            Exactly. And as long as you are a wolf, it is an excellent system.

          • eddie47d

            Repeat and rinse! Will you be allowed to vote in your “foolproof” system? Will you exclude me or my neighbor?I want a system that includes just about everybody. Hey, that is what we have so imagine that. We vote for our Representatives and they do our bidding. Sometimes we loose and end up with nothing.Yet it sure beats not having a voice in that decision.

          • Vicki

            eddie47d says:
            “Will you be allowed to vote in your “foolproof” system?”

            I won’t need to vote in MY foolproof system. A benevolent dictatorship with ME as the dictator. :)

            eddie47d: “I want a system that includes just about everybody.”

            All governments on the planet include just about everybody. What was your point?

            eddie47d: “Hey, that is what we have so imagine that. We vote for our Representatives and they do our bidding.”

            And this is different from mob rule how?

            eddie47d: “Sometimes we loose and end up with nothing.Yet it sure beats not having a voice in that decision.”

            Sometimes? I really think you like a democracy. Please feel free to move to somewhere that has one. Better move fast. Democracies don’t last long. They tend to quickly self distruct when people find they can vote to take all of eddie47d. His life, liberty and property.


            I think I would prefer to live in a Constitutionally limited Republic where government is small and mostly stays out of private affairs. That would be the Republic Ben Franklin mentioned. The one we had many many years ago. The one the Constitution describes.

      • Kate8

        Mary Kay – Except that diplomatic immunity extends to such crimes as murder and any other grievous act. No one should be immune from these laws.

        I largely agree with DaveH, government should stay out of our lives. Only those things which cause directs harm to others (murder, mayhem, injury, thievery, bearing false witness…) need to have laws.

        If good, respect for others, common sense and good moral values were taught and encouraged instead of personal indulgence and perversity, people would just naturally do what’s good for themselves and others.

        • 45caliber


          And none of those crimes are federal. They are all state crimes. Except for treason, there should be NO federal laws such as these.

      • Carlucci

        I hate to quibble, but Amerika looks like a democracy. It started out on the right track in 1776. Benjamin Franklin, when asked what kind of government the people would be given, replied “A republic – if you can keep it.” The republic turned into a democracy slowly over time. What is a democracy? Mob rule. Who is the mob? The federal mafia.

      • DaveH

        What in the world are you talking about, Mary? I didn’t say anything about Democracy.

    • eddie47d

      Dave H.; What about that case in Pakistan where our guy(ranger)was being robbed and he shot and killed the two robbers.We want to give him diplomatic immunity and thousands of Pakistanis want to hang him.I agree diplomatic immunity can be a farce and is abused more than it helps but then there are those darn exceptions.

      • DaveH

        I didn’t say anything about Egypt. I’m talking about the United States. And I wasn’t talking about the right or wrong of self-defense. And I wasn’t talking about whether we are a democracy or a republic.
        Damn, it makes me wonder if anybody can read these days?

        • eddie47d

          Don’t be so flippant Dave! Diplomatic Immunity involves most nations or at least other countries. That could include Egypt since you mentioned it. It means treaties between two countries so it would be kind of hard if only the USA had it.

          • DaveH

            Flippant? Best get out your dictionary, Eddie.
            No, Eddie, your example didn’t fit my statement. I’m talking about United States laws, get it?

  • Wlmitch1

    Obamm-bamm needs to be investigated, indicted for sedition, arrested and removed from office, and tried for his plot to turn our Constitutional Republic into a police state. When will Congress or the Judiciary get up the courage to deal with this Marxist?

    • Louie

      Never it seems, Wlmitch1.

    • JC

      When we end the Federal Reserve, as it is the paymaster for our corrupt system.

    • eddie47d

      I agree Obama should cancel orders for radiation scanners for health and financial reasons. It is kind of a stretch to say he should be impeached for that. Then the Bush /Cheney team should also be dragged into court for they were ordered under their watch. It’s like one President ordering useless military machinery and by the time they finally get delivered no one wants them. The money is spent and the next President is stuck with the bill. Happens all the time.

  • Patriot & Veteran

    Doc Sarvis,

    The Stench that spews from your bung-hole is quite appropriate for someone who wasn’t in Theater of Operations! I did 2 tours there and what is truly amazing to me is this: EVERYONE in the world who was watching Saddam Huessain shooting SCUD missles towards Israel can refute that there were no WMD’s in Iraq…..That’s really ironic to say the least. Having been there and seen for myself at a chemical manufacturing facility at TQ (Al Taquadam) and helped dismantle manny missles with Chemical War-heads…but then again mr Stench Spewer….You were there and have all the facts! You are an IDIOT whom I’d like to see LEAVE MY COUNTRY with the rest of your sheep following liberal P.O.S!!! (Yes, pieces of Dung…I’m being really nice here)

    • Louie

      Patriot, we can’t police the world. I am a Vietnam vet & I do know about warfare’s horrors. We just cannot babysit the world!?

      • Michelle

        Just wanted to say Thank you to both of your for your service.

      • Christin

        Patriot and Louie,
        Thank you for your service to our country.

        Many have not heard the truth about such things because
        the truth is covered up by politics… and people need to really do their own research to find the truth or facts.

        I believe we should not babysit the world. Our [real] President should make a call to the leader of a country to tell them we, Americans, don’t approve of their nucs or inhuman treatment of their citizens and then go public and make the statement on the news, but as far as fighting other people’s wars for them in their country… no, I don’t think so. Maybe we can give aid to good groups of people who are fighting against their evil dictators, but I don’t agree that we should send our men and women into harms way to fight everybody’s revolution.

        We need our American citizens here to fight our own revolt against the Progressive [Communist, Socialist, Marxist] tyrants in our own government.

        Don’t you guys think it odd that obama ignored the Constitutional, Conservative “The Tea Party” uprising in protest of Big Progressive Gov, Massive Debt. and Out of Control Spending,
        BUT… congratulates the Eygptian Protestors for their revolt of their evil dictator (who has taken decades of US dollars in the Billions to be our ali and to keep the flow of oil coming.)

        obama doesn’t tell jokes… he is the joke.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          When Der Fuhrer laughs he is not laughing with us.
          He is laughing AT US.

    • Bert Cundle

      I am a vet. also… When I was asked to volenteer for V.N.: I Replied O.K. BUT: I Won’t Shoot anybody in there own Rice Firlds! { I was sent to H.Q. ) I KNOW IF WE DON’T CONTROL THE WORLD, SOME ONE ELSE WILL ! } DEFENSE AINT CHEEP!!! But there are accaisions where Fights are Mearly a Thearter. LOTS OF $ FOR / FROM WAR. Our Sacrifices for our Freedom are costly… BLOOD, LIMBS, LIVES, OF FAMILY MEMBERS & FRIENDS & NEIGHBORS. ( SOME CASES, OUR OWN…)

    • eddie47d

      Patriot and Veteran; The stench is from many years of our government aiding and abetting dictators around the world. We sell military hardware in the billions of dollars to buy friendship and it is backfiring. The cost is great and the rewards are dubious. The Iraq War is once again proving that. There are Iraqi immigrants all over the world now and even in the USA. We are fighting their war for them and they skipped town. Sure Saddam HAD chemicals mostly from European nations and mucho weapons mostly from the USA. We all fed the beast when that beast was never our friend.More follies of war!

  • jopa

    Patriot&Vet;Why are you going around the country sniffing bung holes anyway.The Doc has as much right to say his piece as anyone else.Foe starters this is not your country it belongs to the American people that have a voice and can use it as they please.Being a vet does not give you any more say than anyone else in this country or are you having visions of grandeur that wow I seved I am better than everybody else and if they don’t agree with me they better leave the country.Doesn’t work that way here so deal with it.thank you.

    • 45caliber


      Like Heinlein, I’ve always felt that if you aren’t willing to step forward and defend your country that you shouldn’t be allowed to take part in politics … even by so much as voting.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Not that I am picking on you today .foty’fi’,but what of widows and orhans and paprapleigics.They cant exactly join the military and start a shootin’ now can they? Is willingness a criteria? Let any who are citizens and of legal age,not having been convicted of felonius deeds,vote.Doesnt matter what their opinions are,or who they will vote for.It is that which makes us Americans,and different from the rest of humanity.

        • 45caliber

          Heinlein’s idea was that all joined if you wanted to vote. WOmen too. Even in today’s military there are a lot of jobs for them. Orphans? Only if they are eighteen or older. Kids don’t vote anyway.

          Actually I believe that ALL high school grads should be drafted and trained at least through basic training. Then they can spend a year or two in the military or some civilian job – their choice. Then when they go to college they would more appreciate it and work at it.

    • Bear

      Maybe the rules should be changed. It’s true that every vet from every war wrote a blank check which was up to and included his/her life if need be and that blank check did not come without a lot of consideration and devotion to country. That’s something that a lot of you morons don’t understand and seem to take for granted. My feelings are simple. If you didn’t help plant and maintain the garden, you don’t get to pick from it at harvest time. Some of us Vets. are getting a bit tired of the freeloaders. So, you better put a cap on your B.S. about vets being better than anyone else. A lot of them are!

      • JC

        Support our best and bravest 100%…but not Corporate wars for profit.

    • Kate8

      jopa – Just where do you think you’d be if America never had men who were willing to fight?

      You are a small person with a smaller mind. Your disrespect for those who risk everything for their country (even for YOU) is disgusting. It’s sick that the ones who manage to come back alive, bearing scars that you will never understand, have to take further abuse from those like you who’ve never known anything but a warm house, a full stomach and a government check.

      Shame on you.

      • JC

        Further to that, how many of our best gave their lives in the fight against communism, fascism and tyranny? Only to have that disease re-emerge in America as Liberal Progressives and Neo-Cons?

        There ought to be a bounty on the damned things.

        Go Libertarian.

      • marvin

        you can not shame people like doc and jopa they have no shame or any common sense if you have no pride in this countrys returning solders ,or just tell lies and half truths just for the sake of getting their brand of liberalism out

    • marvin

      are you an american if you are you sure as hell don,t talk like one if anyone is sniffing assgas it is you that stuff has rotted your brain

    • eddie47d

      Yes jopa, Doc should have the right to say his piece yet veterans should be respected (unless they committed a crime). Whether a war is right or wrong shouldn’t be an over riding issue in how we treat our veterans. We can debate the usefulness of wars and those who start them without putting down the service of a veteran.Their time and sacrifice is unique and should be respected.

  • steve

    Dear Patriot and Veteran-

    Many in our fairest of all countries would say that was mighty strong language. My only criticism of your comment would be:

    As THAT idiot leaves, would it be okay if he took his fellow idiot lib-tards and all muslim immigrants to our nation received in the last 30 years with him? Yeah – I know, many muslims are wonderful folks. Let them be wonderful back where they came from, please.

    • Don

      AMEN to that Steve

  • http://com i41

    sc, Holder told Whorehound when he was Ass. AG to ship detainees to Eygpt, were they were tortured and exacuted. Why do you think dems never mention all the people were sent to be “interveiwed by other nations”.Instead of Gitmo, should have taken an old retired ship and set the conrol center as a impregemenable spot and put all the goat abusers on the ship and just drop food like balony and pancake batter. Let the MB prepare and cook their food. It would keep them free of outside infulance,take the ship out to the spot where trash swirling n the ocean and just ket it go in circles till the pukes expire, no repeat offenders or going back to the battle feild. Guardswould not be required and meddling jackasses would be delaided from contact.

    • 45caliber

      You would need some guards to prevent liberals from trying to “rescue” these “poor mistreated” people.

      • Christin

        45 Caliber,
        :)-ha, ha… you are probably right!

      • eddie47d

        Caliber; i41 is always full of it. Is that the way you would want an American soldier treated if he was captured. We can conduct ourselves with respect and decency no matter what the rest of the world does. We may be tarnished but we are still that shining city on the hill.

        • 45caliber


          I believe that all soldiers should be treated fairly and honorably. I also believe that while the war is going on, prisoners-of-war should be held until the war is over or prisoner exchanges are made.

          But … those at Gitmo are NOT enemy “soldiers” except in the press. The Geneva Convention identifies soldiers as those wearing the uniform of their country, fighting to defend it. Anyone out of uniform (including spies and sabeuters) are to be treated as they deserve including being shot on sight. We are doing much better than that.

  • c.lynn

    Obama will laugh all the way to the white house (again) in 2012 if we don’t do something fast. We need a bigger movement than the Tea Party. We all need to get behind good candidates (not the good old boys) and help them get elected. The battle cry should be GET OBAMA OUT!!!!! before it’s too late.

  • CL38

    How about the right do what they claimed they would to get a majority
    in the House — focus on creating jobs….jobs….jobs.

    And why don’t the right’s supporters encourage…push…and insist that they follow through on their campaign promises. As always with the right, guess that just so much hooey to get back into power?

    • Jeep

      Because the govt cannot “create” jobs (other than the 200k this administration has “created”). The ONLY thing the govt can do is to maintain a stable platform for the economy to grow in. Hmmm…such as not over-regulating and a reasonable tax rate. You know, stuff like that. Get this through your thick head, the govt can ONLY take from business and give it away. The govt CANNOT create jobs, but it can make it difficult to impossible for a business to run and grow effectively.

      Any politician “vowing” to create jobs is lying. Any polictician vowing to “get out of the way” has not been bought off yet.

    • LES

      The House alone cannot create jobs, it takes cooperation of the Senate and President neither of which will do what is necessary. They are all for Government jobs but private sector jobs, which will drive the economy, will still be held back by taxes, regulation and Unions
      all increasing under the Democrats, Rhinos & Obama.

  • 45caliber

    I still say that if you want to be safe on a flight from someone who might be carrying a bomb, then require everyone to fly naked. They would pack their clothes into a suitcase and send it through by itself. When they arrive at their destination, they pick up their suitcase at baggage claim and then get dressed again. No carry on luggage and stark naked. How much safer could you get?

    • Kate8

      45 – What about body cavities?

      I still like the idea of having everyone walk through a detonator.

      • Carlucci

        Now, that’s a good idea. Put those at the initial entrances at the airports to deter any wackos from setting themselves off while waiting in line anywhere in the airports. That would put the kibosh on any nonsense immediately. Bomb sniffing dogs and metal detectors stationed outside the entrances would help also, along with bags of pork lard hanging everywhere. I’m serious – mooslims are terrified of anything having to do with a pig. Bags of pork lard are now hanging in buses in Israel.

        Okay, I’ve just got to ask – in the picture beside the article, it sure looks like Ovomit has had some expensive dental work done. Those choppers look way too perfect….

      • 45caliber

        So do I. However no one has made one that will detonate such things yet. I wish they had.

        • Kate8

          45 – Are you sure about that? How would we know?


    To anyone who supports the war on terror abroad I ask. Why are our borders wide open? Why were they nice and open under Bush and why are they nice and open under Obama? Why is DHS hard core at our airports but not at our borders? If I was a member of Al Quieda I would waltz in at the southern border disguised as a Mexican.

    • Bert Cundle

      Al Quieda Doesan’t Need to leave Home! They Put Our President in power & Get what they want!

      • Christin

        So true, Bert.
        All those “undocumented foreign donations” via obamama’s computer!

      • JC

        They (Al Qaeda) have the full co-operation of the White House in destroying our economy. They don’t need to bring down airplanes or anything else.

        This whole security charade is nothing more than a training exercise to get a free people used to doing what they are told.
        It’s a sick joke.

    • Christin

      Good Point Dogs Fight.

      I’m not a dem vs rep person, because most of them are corrupt, but Bush actually did add many miles of border fencing between America and Mexico and obamama defunded it and stopped it from continuing to be built when he took office.
      Of course, much more than flimsy fencing and a few border patrol are needed, thus one can say Presidents for MANY decades have NOT secured the border… WHY? 1.) Progressives want a borderless world and chaos and financial destruction fo the US dollar to bring about their NWO, and 2.) Because it would be political suicide… look at all the Mexican outrage beit from citizens or illegals. Screams of RACIST and you are out of office. The Presidential and Congressional winners need their VOTES!

      Secure the border and protect the American citizens as stated in the Constitution to let no harm come to its citizens, OR allow hundreds of thousands of undocumneted illegal gangs, cartels, terrorists (one already did), drugs, human smugglers, and poor people to pour into our sovereign nation and bring about chaos and financial instability… PICK ONE… your leaders did.

      • Teresa

        Ck. with the stats….Reps. and Dems both just voted to cut the spending on securing our borders.

        • Christin

          “Just voted”?… the border fence was stopped in 2009 with a Demo controlled congress after obama took office.

    • lkar

      DHS is hard core at airports so they can justify the bloated number of government employees at the TSA. And they now want to unionize! Ever wonder why? To protect the workers rights from the goverment, yet they work for the government.

    • 45caliber


      About a year ago I read an article that said that there were over 200 training camps in the mountains in Northern Mexico terrorists were using to train their people on how to appear Mexican in the US. And they were careful to note that this did NOT cover all the Al Quida camps that were also there.


    Until you reach a certain age where heart attacks, stroke, and cancer take over, your car, statistically, is a DEATH TRAP. The highest probability of dying until you reach a relatively old age is vehicle acidents. If our government is so concerned with our lives, why don’t they try to ban driving or require massive checkpoints to brain scan you to ensure you ar mentally fit to drive? As a 30 year old, my car is statistically a DEATH TRAP compared to the danger at my life from Al Quieda.

    • 45caliber

      Right now … you are right. But can you imaging the screams if they did!

    • Kate8

      They don’t care about keeping us safe. It’s not about safety, it’s about compliance, control, and dehumanizing.

      The goal is absolute control of everything we do. EVERYTHING. If it damages our health and shortens our life, they like it even better.

  • Jim

    Do any of you realize that “Doc Sarvis” is a character in the Edward Abbey novel “The Monkey Wrench Gang” look up the character

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Only one thing is clear and important – BHO needs to be defeated in next year’s November election. We were fortunate enough to win back control of the House 3 months ago, but it’s clear we have a long way to go. 1st, the GOP House MUST stand by its 2010 campaign pledges to stop BHO’s radical agenda. 2nd, the GOP must also rid itself of RINOs and wimps who too often cower to the leftwing Democraps. This means that they must choose the most conservative nominees possible. The nominees IMHO must also be good outspoken Reagan/Palin like campaigners who can challenge BHO and his democraps in any debates. Let’s not repeat the errors of 2008. That is – don’t nominate another weak dingbat like John McCain!! As Rush Limbaugh once suggested, it seems like McCain’s entire campaign was a concession speech, given that McCain could’ve ended BHO’s campaign in th first debate alone. ….Republican Party, LISTEN TO US!! Remember, many of us reluctantly voted for McCain just as a vote against One Big Awful Mistake America!! Of course we would’ve preferred a dingbat over the Marxist we now have as POTUS. But unfortunately a large % of voters don’t think that way. They’re oblivious to the fact that elections have consequences, and for some reason don’t want to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. Until these voters wise up, the best thing the GOP can do is reach out to these voters by recruiting candidates who clearly give voters a reason to vote FOR them as opposed to simply voting AGAINST the democrap opponents. The last few years have proven to be a disaster, and a good reason to do everything possible to make the 2012 election the final nail in the coffin of the leftwing democrap party.

  • pompey

    ….on the fifth day of November in the year of 2008, a day that will live in infamy, the American people went to the polls and committed an egregious and tragic error of historical proportions.

    If in the year of 2012 that error is not corrected it will evolve from tragic to fatal…….any questions?

    • marvin

      only ones that voted for obame where the hand out touche feelly, feel good ,give me bunch that 75 % have never had to work,are on welfare or want to be and will believe any thing they hear

      • eddie47d

        marvin; You are still clueless and the reason Obama could win again.

    • Alan

      nope, clear enuff

  • John

    Be proud you live in America, then Defend it to the DEATH if need be. Get rid of the 534 in Washington that want to change this great nation by using your right to vote. eliminate 40 year terms in office, only allow three terms for senators and reps become active through e mails, letters, and phone calls that you are tired of the way they are giving away our basic freedoms in the name of political correctness. I love America, this is My Country, if you want to live here do like I did learn the language, get a job if one is not there then mow a yard pick up trash paint a fence do odd jobs I have and still found the time to do my duty in the military, get an education, marry have children all the while still saluted the flag, took pride in America and still have a tear in my eye when they play the Star Spangled Banner, this is my country if you dont like it I will help you with a ticket back to your home.

    • Alan

      Attaboy, John, as for myself, i aint buying them anything else….

  • Carol

    This man thinks things are funny that are far from funny what does that tell you about him he is an idiot no more no less.

    • 45caliber

      He also has a terrible sence of humor.

      • Jeep

        and, I’ll bet his feet smell…

  • http://personallibertydigest vanessa

    Even to this day I still do not understand how he even got into the white house, people are so blind there are so many things wrong with him and so many hundreds of people refuse to see it! I am so surprised that we have not already started riots on the street to get him thrown out already people are too scared and because of the color of his skin the race card gets thrown in your face right away, you don’t like him because “he’s black” your just a racist, He is here only to destroy america not make it any better.

    • marvin

      you seam like a smart person you know just as well as i do how obama got elected you tell some people what they want to hear and they will do any thing to ask,it is call blind leading the blind,

      • Alan

        No, actually he was placed there and we had Nothing to do about it… money did. Where are his ‘Bona Fides’ ? Still nothing? Hmmmm.

  • http://personallibertydigest vanessa


    • Jeep

      Because he wants to take from people who work, and give to people who do not work. Simple. Unfortunately for those of us who can take care of ourselves, the “takers” of our society are still allowed to vote. Thus it will always be that the politician can “buy” votes from the “under”-privilidged by promising to “soak it to the rich”, and “redistribute it to the poor” (otherwise known as theft).

  • Charles

    I think Obama should build his fast speed rail and build it all the way to Hell.Then he and his Progressive,Commuist,Socialist,Marxist
    goons could board it and get the hell out of Dodge.

  • Charles

    You are so right!!!!

  • Charles

    people heard that word CHANGE,!!!were blind to everything around
    them. Be ware of the word CHANGE,!!! you might be getting more than
    what you bargined for.

  • jopa

    But then again at the end of the day when it is all said and done we almost all realize how lucky we are to have such a great leader and live in the greatest country in the world.It is so clear and evident why there are no new challengers for the next presidential election when we have such greatness in the White House today.God Blessed America

    • 45caliber

      Thanks for the laugh! I love sarcasm!

    • marvin

      we have places for people like you that live in a dream world you really need to get help

    • Jeep

      Look guys, just ignore jopa. It’s probably just some overweight, thirty something living in momma’s basement. Certainly it has never worked before, and clearly it has no mastery of the English language.

  • Charles

    I don`t know why the Blacks hate Bush so much. He did more for the
    Blacks in Africa than any person or country in the history of man.
    I don`t know why the women think Opera is so great,she helped get this
    Marxist, Obama elected.Tell me why!!!!!!!

    • Alan

      She was selected the same as Obama-she had no choice..and was well paid

      • Alan

        And, screw Bush and his daddy too.

  • Charles

    Ya, right jopa!!!

  • Dan

    O and TSA want the scanners and pat downs expanded so they can take away our signs (Tea Party Members) when we show up in DC again.

  • Charles

    HE Jopa,
    Don`t count your chickens before they hatch!!!!!!

  • Charles

    Maybe in 2016 the Democrats can reclaim the party that Marx built.>>
    >>>> THE PROGRESSIVE PARTY >>>>>> In the meantime that chicken will hatch and send your great leader and his Marxist bunch packing.The only thing that chicken won`t be a chicken.It will be someone who still loves America and what she stands for.


    What this means is that “The Government” no matter “The President” (NO I DON”T LIKE OBAMA)is hedging towards one thing and one thing only and this is to restrict your freedom to travel, Yes Folks a Nazi Like Society where you MUST Show Zee Papers or you VILL NOT Be Able To Go Ver You Vant Ya….YA.

    Under Bush, more Bush, under the bush and with Obama you have NO 4th Amendment rights, all gone By, By, forever, under the “Bush White House” you had the “Patriot Act” so if you did not wish to bend over at the airport you did not fly. Bush also made an executive order in 07 that at some “Future Date” that “The President” in a time of crisis could take over all transportation etc. and basically become a dictator in times of national crisis, whatever that might be, further it was NEVER repealed.

    IF you will give into the pat down at the airport then surely in the name of “Homeland Security” you would need to be safe on a bus or Train wouldn’t you?…..Just Nod Your Head and say YES because that’s what we do when we fly anywhere, Oh yes I agree with another comment made, and that is the FACT that we are a Sick Nation. Obama is just a “Symptom” of what’s wrong with America. IF you think things will change with “The Next President” YOU are sadly mistaken, OBAMA is an “ORDER BOY” a “FIGURE HEAD” of this country that was once a Great Nation. And for you people who say “God Bless America” WE as Americans have turned their back on the GOD who formed this country so why would GOD Bless America after we have committed the murder of children, (ABORTION) we export porn to other countries we would not for the most part even darken the door a a church, let alone worship the creator of this country and yet we have the unmitigated gall to still say “God Bless America,” this is why we are a sick nation and getting sicker. THINK ABOUT IT!

    • Alan


  • Merlin

    The so called “Patriot Act” was over the top and mostly wrong when it was immplemented and it is still wrong. It handed a major victory to our enemies when we chose security over freedom. This issue goes beyond party lines.

  • chuckb

    jopa, i have to agree with you, the glorious leader “barry soetoro” is far greater than one could imagine. how many people has this country spawned that could appear out of nowhere, get elected to the state senate then the u.s., win the presidency and nobody seems to know or can prove for sure where he was born, much less what kind of grades he maintained in school or where he actually went to school, has no respect for the country, ran the deficit higher than anyone in all our history, was never a member of the armed services, refused to honor the flag and country. his vacations and speaking trips on air force one cost the taxpayers more than most countries national debt.

    so your right jopa, by all union standards and so called democrat politics, he is great.

    • Alan

      He was ‘selected’ and we had no say. Wake up, people.

  • chris

    Did anybody read that Iraq for the first time can not feed it self as a country? We destroyed their infrastructure. Brought in imported food. Now the Iraqi farmers can not compete with the import prices. The farm land has been flooded with salt water making it so nothing can be grown there for years to come. We now have a country that is totally dependent on foreign commerce. Sound familiar? China/US. They now need us. If our government can control the food supply we can control everything. On a second not did any body notice our Big Government is try to control our own food supply with the safe food act. Aw heck they are trying to control EVERY aspect of our lives. They are succeeding only because we have been asleep at the voter both for so many decades. Republican, Democrat all the same only the names have been changed. Soon the people will rise up like they did in Egypt and peacefully throw all the bums out! The last elections are a start, but they are still choking us at every move! Wake up America!

    • Alan

      Wake up ? We will doze until they actually ‘harm’ us. Then mabe we can try to ‘fight the good fight’. Let one of those govt bastids harm me or mine, i will wake up b4 they intend…follow if you’ve the guts.
      Or, just ‘tweet’ your way to self-determination.
      Good luck.

  • John Bellotte

    These body scanners were tested by Italy, and they determined that they were too expensive and didn’t do the job to detect explosives. However Daschel’s wife is on the board of one company, Sen Kerry has between $500K and $1M invested in one of the companies as do some of of the other Congressmen and Senators, so guess what? The US is buying a lot of them to subject our citizens to dangerous levels of radiation even though they won’t detect explosives. Most countries call that corruption.

    • Chas

      John, you hit the nail on head.
      The workings of Congress and the government, both past and present, should be obvious to the average person, yet the vast majority can’t see how deceptive and dishonest our government has become. Our elected officials have ignored and abused the Constitution through trickery and deception, or as the entertainment industry calls it, magic.

      Moreover, they have expanded their power beyond constitutional bounds and abused their stolen power for monetary gain – or to retain their power over us. It’s like professional wrestling where the opponents posture in front of the fans then turn around and go to dinner together, laugh at the fans, and make plans for the next show.

      • Alan

        Believe this, they already have monetary control-or they wouldn’t be pushing for World Bank ideologies flagrantly and in the open.

  • Chas

    Obama is a communist, and they have a warped sense of everything from humor to humanity. I say get rid of the Muslim jerk now.

    • Alan

      Thank you. I signed it. And i mean it.

  • http://FarTooMuch.Info Russ Lemon

    You do not understand the push for High Speed Rail until you read U.N. Agenda 21 [1992] accepted by Bush, and the adoption of this agenda in the ‘Food Safety Act’ signed by Obama this year. The Agenda calls for population reduction, and the movement of citizens to megacities connected by … High Speed Rail.

    • eddie47d

      We already move across country by high speed air travel so is that a part of population reduction also? We also have numerous mega-cities. High speed rail will not use as much fuel and would be a big plus. Both air travel and train travel have allowed our cities to grow so your sinister plot is bogus.

  • Charles

    Like I said, let him build his high speed rail, as long as he builds
    it straight to HELL.Then Obama and his Marxist goons can hope aboard
    and go to where they all belong.YOU KNOW WHERE!!!!!

  • GotSense

    Please get it straight. This present government is a corperation. “The Corperation of the united States” acting as a government. It started n 1870 an it is illegal. Please wakeup and educate yourselves.

    The true legal goverment of this country is “The Republic of The United States of America”

  • Robert Morrow

    If one really looks or has been educated enough to read and understand what they read will look to see what is going on. We already have a Totalitarian Police State created by your elected officials with Agencies like the FDA, which approves poison drugs and food which murder over 200,000 citizen per year. Then if you question the FDA they will raid you with their Gestapo Swat teams. For if FDA is on a vendetta against you, you do not have any Constitutional Right. For the Bureaucrats are accusers, judge, jury and executioners and you do not have any civil rights for you are guilty as Agency has said so. That is the same for EPA, FCC, TSA FTC as their Agency is about the law and the Constitution. Along with the new elected Messiah Obama and his Queen of mean the government is totally our of control and you have no rights at all. Just ask you elected congress person, how is going to remove the blood stains they got from handling the blood stained 30 pieces of silver they get for selling out the country, that they swore to protect. They have sold out for the profits of the big Corporation. I will insert a Quote by one of their Own. From the lips of Herbert Ley, M.D., Former FDA Commissioner. Quote “THE THING THAT BUGS ME IS THAT PEOPLE THINK THE FDA IS PROTECTING THEM. IT ISN’T. THE FDA IS PROTECTING THE PROFITS OF THE CORPORATIONS THAT PAY US!”end of quote. So people just stumble along and take the poison drugs and eat the toxic laced foods, become ill and die, but never question as that should help decrease the surplus Population (easier to control). I hope that you enjoy watch your child become fat, sick, suffer in Pain before they die. Look it up yourself and see the 200,000 deaths a year from poison drug and toxic laced foods. Think about if you can, which is a problem as the Federal Board of (Propaganda)Education has made Zombies of you and your children, so total control much is easier.

    • Suzette

      So, So true…the FDA is busy watching out for the interests of Monsanto – they could care less what their GMO, pesticide food does to you or your family. Watch the movie Collapse – it will show you that modern agriculture is basically about eating oil.

  • jopa

    45cal.I think we should have the same set up as England and make it mandatory everyone does a stint in the service.Perhaps there would be a little more respect for this country and some of the freeloaders would have a little more self respect and get off their butts.Too much of everyone wants something for nothing.

    • Alan

      Screw England. We most certainly do NOT need them as an ‘example’ of where we are to go in the United States. Checked their tax rates lately?
      Im an ‘X’ Marine. Screw England. I am also an American. We draw our strength from those among us who are able and willing to fight.
      Don’t bring your silly-assed ‘conscripts’ to my battles.

  • Tinman

    Really folks the jigs up. He is laughing at us. All we are doing is talking and talk is cheap. When the sh1t hits the fan with the alphabet soup gang(jackboots), he will stop laughing. We will be marching on Washington!

  • David Warheit

    So you are saying that President Obama wants to invest in high speed rail so that more and more people can be subjected to radiation scanning and patdowns? But these people are already subject to this since their alternative is to fly.

    I understand your objection to current methods of investigating passengers, but this article is pure paranoia combined with utter hatred of President Obama. Please, get some help.

  • leeS

    tell me this is not crazy demented STUPID INSANE…we are so concerned about travelers blowing us up that we scan them at all our airports while we allow MILLIONS of Mexicans, muslims and others to enter our southern border AT WILL. ILLEGAL MEXICANS are so overlooked, aided and abetted by liberals in the USA that muslims are now entering the USA via Mexico and posing as ILLEGAL Mexicans!

    Most recent government screw up, an illegal mexican was released and he has now murdered 3 people. Political correctness is the opposite of common sense.

    The liberal teacher unions are demonstrating b/c NOW the lack of funding has reached them…HELLO, stand up AGAINST ILLEGAL aliens…but liberals don’t/won’t b/c they figure the problem doesn’t affect them. The money being eaten up by millions of illegals in this country is mindblowing and eliminating the ILLEGALS FIRST out of the country would open up jobs for US citizens, and keep more funds in city state and federal treasuries. I would rather see the ILLEGALS deported than to see services cut on US CITIZENS. politician’s discussing it.

    There’s a hispanic teacher on youtube who is actively calling for MEXICANS in the USA to REVOLT.

    go to we hire illegals dot com and look up YOUR state to see the employers who have been caught hiring ILLEGALS.

    Obamas girl Napolitano shut down the border fence building project. Obama’s unwillingness to REALLY crack down, is EMBOLDENING our enemies who are rushing in and just waiting for the right moment to stir up trouble.

  • chuckb

    lees, barry would lose half his voting block if you sent the illegals back to mexico and the carribean.

    the mexcian radical orginizations, la raza, mecha and aztlan have been organizing and speaking out at our universities for years. berkeley, san diego and ucla are their training grounds.

    so far they only have control of half the state of california, san diego. los angeles and the coasr cities up to san francisco and some inland cities, come to think of it, they have 3/4′s control.

    • Alan


  • Charles

    Why would Obama want to spend billions of dollars on
    something that loses money? Fact is, there is not one
    high speed rail in the world that makes money.The Gov.of
    Fla just turned down money from the build a high
    speed rail in his state. Amtrack has 44 lines and only
    3 of them are showing a profit. Americans still love
    their cars and this will always be the number one way
    for us to travel, unless Obama suceeds in destroying
    America,then I guess, we will all have to walk.

  • Charles

    Right again,keep pounding these Left- Wing Looms.

  • Charles

    I hear, I don`t know. I hear that the Muslims at the rate they are comming
    into this country and child birth, in the next 20 years, they will have enough people here to
    vote in one of their own as President of the good old USA. This is scarey
    if it`s true. They have already taken over whole cities in some states.
    Michigan is one of those states,yet you hear nothing about this from the main st. media. What the hell are they afraid off, they will get their heads choped off or they might not be political correct. WE now have two
    groups of people that are fast becoming famous for cuting your head off.
    The Mexicans and Arabes,Lets make sure we bring more of them into our country.Don`t call me a raceist, I`m just quoting the facts.

    • Alan

      Sad facts, but, true. Stopping it now is impossible. Ready yoursaelves, or lose your families

      Sad, but true. They will not get me or mine. How about you and yours?


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