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Obama's Immigration Speech Draws Ire

July 8, 2010 by  

Obama's immigration speech draws ire Last week President Obama delivered his first major immigration speech, calling for comprehensive reform and GOP support. However, in the days since the speech, conservatives and other immigration opponents have blasted the government for being part of the problem rather than the solution.

Criticism centered mainly on the allegations that the Federal government has failed in the basic prerequisite for a comprehensive overhaul, namely in securing the United States border with Mexico and in enforcing existing immigration laws.

"Our politicians refuse to enforce our laws while millions of Americans are pushed out of jobs every day by the hiring of illegal immigrants willing to work for less pay and lowered working conditions," said Leah Durant, executive director of Progressives for Immigration Reform.

"It’s time for the government to protect its own," she stressed.

Meanwhile, another nonprofit, Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS), has accused the government for using the talk of "reform" as another way to introduce the idea of blanket amnesty.

However, Marilyn DeYoung, chairwoman of the board of CAPS, said this is something that Americans "have resoundingly rejected."

On the other hand, among those who have welcomed the president’s speech were the Democratic National Committee and its Hispanic Caucus, which has praised the government’s proposal to require illegal immigrants to admit they broke the law, learn English and pay taxes in order to be eligible for citizenship. ADNFCR-1961-ID-19876167-ADNFCR

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  • Al Sieber

    Obama’s already stuck the knife in, now he wants to twist it. giving these criminals amnesty would end the U.S. as a country. they don’t care about our culture, our ideas etc. these are not the same people that came looking for work. they want everything for free they think we owe them, these are violent criminals with a violent culture. Obama should be impeached if he by passes congress.

    • eddie47d

      “They are violent criminals with a violent culture”. You know very little about any culture just racist rants. Very few cultures are violent just controlled by violent people.With your way of thinking all Italian Americans are violent drug dealers because of the Mafia.What about the Irish gangs? Are all Russian Americans evil because of a few in organized crime? How about those evil Nazi Germans who came here after WWII? Don’t forget the Serbians and Hungarians with their nasty dirty gypsy habits. Maybe those evil socialist Swedes or French citizens. Those terrible people from India who are stealing our jobs.The Columbian Americans must be sinister cocaine smugglers. Even our bad Canadian neighbors with their horrible national health plan trying to inflict us with that menece.We’ve heard it all from you Al and several others. I didn’t mention every culture but I think you get the drift on how violent you must think all immigrants have been or will be. It’s called sterotype and you are at the head of the class.

      • Dan Burke

        Some of us make harsh generalizations here. Some of which we would apologize for. I cannot speak for others here. I just know that I too get easily caught up into the illegal immigrants = lawbreaking criminals that will destroy our country.

        Now there are a couple sides to our supposed logic. First, we look at the fact that have already broken one law and we are letting them get away with it. They are indeed “illegal” immigrants. That name itself should tell you that one law has already been violated. And so we logic that if one law loses its value, then we risk a second, third, and fourth law also losing value. While not immediate, the ultimate risk is that no law will be enforced except at the whims of society until we get to the point that warrantless searches are common practice, murders are justifiable, and government take any of our freedoms that they want away because someone thinks it is the right thing to do. So while there are laws that we believe are not perfect, for example enforcing illegal immigration at this point would create great havoc with Mexico and the families that have settled here in the United States, there are those of us who believe we should enforce them first and then fix the laws. Bringing back a state where the Rule of Law applies so that all laws are held accountable and we actually fix laws instead of just ignoring them and creating the precedent ignore laws…. As for who is to blame in this whole mess. I don’t know. At this point, I don’t know if it matters. I would have prefered this last year that our federal executive branch of government had aggressively enforced the immigration laws and that our legislative branch perhaps addressed the issue of making it easier for PRIVATE businesses to bring in migrant workers if that was truly for the best (which I went to a website and saw that we actually have a process for American businesses to sponsor legal immigration and temporary workers–I just don’t know what sort of red tape is attached to it–probably enough red tape to make breaking the law gooooood to do).

        The problem comes next is that crime rates have been steadily climbing. Both in Mexico and in the cities that have growing numbers of these illegal immigrants. So we easily get carried away into grouping all illegal immigrants into a law breaking people. Now, I did point out that all illegal immigrants have broken at least one law but I am not sure if they are to blame or if we are to blame for own lack of law enforcement (this would not be the problem it is today if we had been enforcing the law all along). This is why I support Arizona’s law. If we start by strictly enforcing illegal immigration on those who break more than that first law, we begin stripping away the illegal immigrants we shouldn’t want here until they are willing to respect our laws. Those who respect our laws are less likely to get pulled over for speeding, drugs, drunk driving, etc.. We don’t do them any favor by letting them get away with breaking the law. Just like your little kid, if you never punish them for stealing and shoplifting when they are young, how are you going to teach them that stealing is bad when they’ve grown up and are on their own? And while many of these people are not children, the same basic applies. If they can get away with breaking our laws while an illegal immigrant, what is going to help them abide by the law when they are legal. So while the crime rate seems to follow illegal immigrants, it brings with them an unfortunate stain. I just happen to believe that the first step in removing the perception of them as criminals is for us to actually enforce our laws, one of which is regarding illegal immigration.

        And by the way, our past isn’t some pretty picture of treating even our legal immigrants. We tossed Japanese that had earned US citizenship into camps going in World War II as if they were all suddenly spies and enemies of the state. And I understand something similar for US citizens in World War I happened then as well. While there are sure to be those who somehow still think of their neighbor of Japanese descent as some sort of enemy of America, most of us go about our lives treating them as no different than our relatives (which some of us don’t treat our relatives too good either). So I truly believe that most of the people here realize that not all illegal immigrants are gun runners, drug dealers, rapists, murderers, or kidnappers. Unfortunately, we have created an environment were we have neglected our own laws. Once we have fixed illegal immigration, I really believe that the ones that really should be here would return legally this time and they will be better protected because of it.

        Note: if you consider that crime is rising in cities with higher numbers of illegal immigrants, then you must accept that not only are legal citizens coming in the line of fire of these issues but so are the very illegal immigrants everyone is so concerned about. Perhaps if we start enforcing our laws, not only will we reduce the crime but perhaps as we encourage them to immigrate legally (or be legal migrant workers) they themselves will be better protected from those crimes.

        • dan of arizona

          It is apparent that the federal government has, with the assistance of Judicial novelties, effectively abrogated the right of the States to a republican form of government; for now the federal government intrudes into every internal matter within the States and their Citizens, employing various legal measures and maneuvers to accomplish its treason against the Constitution. The abutment of the States reserved powers has been effectively eroded by these measures to the point that the federal government, by implication, can remove any person from the jurisdiction of the States or confiscate any property. We have become a plundered People without redress to the plunders. It is time for this People, though their Rightful State governments, deputized for their protection against usurpation, to stand in forceful resistance against the wiles of a federal government that has illegally imposed itself as sovereign over this People and their State Republics.

    • jomama

      Does anyone know – lets say “if” Obummer were to give amnesty to all who have broken the law of the land (God help us!!) – would (knowing what “amnesty” means) that mean that even the ones who are in jail for (let’s say) murder & rape – does this amnesty mean that they (the murders & rapists) are set free (I know what amnesty means)??????????
      I gotta know…..nobody can answer that. AND in this crazy, American, political deception going on (with Obummer lying to everyone about everything – some “hope & change”, huh??) could he get the (what I call) “dirty illegal aliens” out of jail & on the streets to do whatever they want???? I think that is a great question. I need to know the answer tho.

    • Dave

      Where do you get this stuff? Do you really believe it? Do you think all undocumented workers are violent people looking for a handout? Why would they work for minimum wage in substandard conditions if they were looking for hnadouts? How could they be forcing Americans out of jobs if they weren’t working? You contradict yourself at every turn. I find it hard to beleive the hatred you spew. Your ancestors were immigrants once too. All they probably did was show up at Ellis Island without any visa or anything.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Dave,
        That may be, but at least everyone that came through Ellis Island was checked for infectious diseases!!!

      • Al Sieber

        Dave and eddie47, I’m talking about the drug cartels that invaded my state and are killing people, and smuggling drugs and human cargo into the USA, shooting at law enforcement officals while your president does nothing. everything with you liberals is rascist, thats your only argument.

        • eddie47d

          Your the one who said they are all violent so that still makes you the racists.

      • cr747

        Hey Dave,,
        Wake up Dude…Our damn so called president is an illegal alien…Ship his a$$ back to Kenya where he belongs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          cr747,
          Hey guy welcome back, been awhile!!

          • cr747

            Hey Joe H.
            I have been in Arizona,,and knee deep in Emigrants both legal,,and mostly illegal..What a mess,,but am so proud of Gov. Jan..She needs our backing:::::She is on the right track…

            Give her a thumbs up,,or an A+ on her bravery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Ted Crawford

        The key to your statement is “they,probably just showed up at Ellis Island”. That is far different than sneaking across a border with a backpack loaded with 50lbs. of drugs,carring an AK-47!!

    • Delores Smith

      AL SIEBER,
      Eddie just replied to you and accused you of racist rants. I do not agree with him. I live in Arizona, and I don’t understand why some people, like Eddie, refuse to realize that there is a difference between illegal and legal. He jumps over the word “criminal” as if it’s someone we just don’t understand.
      Obama has screwed up our economy with the help of Democrats, shoved a health bill down our throats that 60% of the people don’t want, appointed a pediatrician to direct Medicare and Medicaid without the checks & balances of Congress, expanded our government to the point that we will soon be bankrupt, all being deliberately done, messed up the lives of the people in the Gulf, pushing for deep shore drilling in Brazil (giving Brazil a total of $2,000,000,000 just days after George Soros invested $1,000,000 in Brazil). We still recall the leader of Iran giving uranium to Brazil and Turkey.
      Now, Obama sues Arizona for protecting its citizens.
      Try going to the Sanctuary Cities and sue them. They are breaking the Federal Law by harboring illegal criminals. My position is that all illegals should be identified and their backgrounds checked. Mr. Morton just stated that they only have 4% of the funds that it would take to return illegal criminals. What if half were terrorists, could you find the money? Call or write your senators, telling them to vote “NO” on the Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Bill. That will give all states plenty of money to protect us from illegals.
      Obama, you are the most corrupt President in our history. Americans today will go down in history as
      determined patriots who have exposed you.
      Delores Smith
      Delores109@cox.net

    • http://allycatred@live.com Debbie andersen

      WE have 3 Mexicans EATING PLACES around us. They are cleaner than big places to eat they talk like us, they are very friendly, not like some places.They have respect for us and are kind, caring, and they are alwasys cleaning, asking if we want something eles. Night be last we went there the young man EVEN KNEW US, AND WHAT WE ATE.They are good ones but there is bad just like the patties. ( WHITES ). GET A LIVE. i BET HIS HOUSE IS CLEANER THAN YOUS.

  • http://charter howe

    It would be comforting if folks got thir facts straight before slamming the Governor of Arizona for lying and profiling. This has to be the biggest joke of the century concerning Gov Brewer and SB 1070 being evil components of a plot to discriminate against Mexicans. The AZ bill if you read it actually prohibits racial profiling and is not used as a circumvention of police power to single out Mexicans who may or may not be in this country illegally. If you really want the truth, Sheriff Arpiao and the neighboring Sheriff in the Arizona county which borders Mexico have public records which are are available to the public, which show that over a million pounds of Marijuana, huge loads of heroin, crack and metamphetamines are coming across the border. There has been several murders which we hear about like Mr. Krantz and a police officer which is fact not fiction and Phoenix Az is the worlds 2nd leading kidnap capitol and the majority of these crimes are well documented to be perpetrated by illegal immigrants. The human slavery directed toward illegals is tragic and without federal assistance at the border these problems will persist. Having said all of that, where do our liberal democratic friends think drugs and criminal activity comes from. Gov Brewer is pleading for help from the pander-in-chief and even if every illegal immigrant was not hauling drugs across the border, would it not be safe to believe that 50% or more of the 450,000 coming across the border are hauling drugs for the cartels. Who do you think supervises each group of illegals to illegally cross the border, Mother Theresa. If there is any intellect available, think about the droves of illegals being escorted by coyotes who walk in lockstep with the drug cartels. They are not helping illegals to find work and a new opportunity in life, they carry sophisticated weapons and have an allegiance to the cartel boss’s to deliver the product no matter the cost to the illegals or the state they decide to invade. I spent 29 years in the miltary and I understand what is happening and to support a radical ideology at the expense of United States citizens is not only unamerican it is criminal. I plan to write to Gov Brewer to get her to provide the documented proof of this outrageous illegal activity, so that the intellectually challenged can see the facts for themselves. This devisive President and the true racist like Al Sharpton and a host of others are fanning the flames of a poentially devisive disaster. Gov Brewer never singled out Mexican citizens, she said illegals coming across the border and that included over 500 non mexicans and I wonder how many were Al Qeada operatives bringing in a dirty bomb to blow up our cities so that they could martyr themselves for Allah. Or maybe the terrorist want to sneak into our country under the cover of illegal crossings to later form groups to plan and carry out mass murder on our transportation systems or our huge malls. Does anyone believe Janet Napolitano (DHS) can provide protection from terrorist who like to commit mass murder in American cities. I am not a racist and the issue is not racism, its protection of our borders and our way of life. Its about the rule of law and protecting and preserving our Constitution to allow future generations of America to enjoy the freedom and prosperity they can achieve if they work hard toward that goal. I did not waste 29 years of military life for anything less and although I want to see a fair plan for legal immigration, I will push back hard against any politician or person that wants to crap on the American dream that my children have every right to expect. Just remember to show up at the polls Nov 2010 and in 2012, because it is a matter of National urgency to vote against the socialist democratic machine that’s creating a banana republic.

    • CJ

      Yes, it would be comforting with straight facts. But look who’s twisting them, the administration and liberals in congress. The liberal media just adds fuel to the fire. Without incentive to change, it won’t happen. Keep up the fight. This needs to be made right!

    • George

      If it were true that 50% of the illegals were bringing drugs into the USA that would make 6,000,000 drug carriers have come in. That does not seem logical.

      If it were true that they are violent criminals then there would have been a surge in the nations violent crime rate. There hasn’t been.

      If there was no one hiring the illegals they would stop coming.

      If there was no demand for drugs in the USA the drugs lords would not attempt to get the drugs into our country.

      Economically speaking it’s call the law of supply and demand. Take away the demand and the supply dries up.

      • http://aol wiley

        No, take away all the free handouts, only legal citizens children alowed in schools, no free healthcare, no sec.8′s, no food stamps. without these freebees, they will evaporate!!!

        • eddie47d

          So if an immigrant has children you want their kids to sit around all day and do nothing and learn nothing? That would be conservative logic. Keep them “dumb” and useful for future jobs. If these people get injured picking your fruits and vegtables you would deny them a doctors care. That’s why I don’t adhere to the term compassionate conservative.That’s just a smoke screen. You would even deny them food as they journey from harvest to harvest in different states. Work them like a dog and then kick them to the curb. Now I get it!

          • Bob from Socal

            Hey eddie,
            If you are so compassionate, then why don’t you take in a couple of these families into your home ,while they are in between jobs. Then after awhile see if you feel the same way. Put up or shut up.

          • JC

            Wow, you added so much to his comment it was unrecognizable.
            He’s right though, no birdfeeder…no birds.
            What part of NO illegal immigrants don’t you get? Not for migrant work, not for temporary construction labor…NOTHING!
            Not unless they come through the front door according to immigration law. Then they might see some hospitality, but not until then.

          • Richard W. Faith

            Eddie47d, try thinking for yourself instead of drinking the OH-Vomit Kool-Aid. Our national security and our standard of living are being rapidly eroded in the names of “compassion” and “wealth redistribution”. Anyone who disagrees is disingenuously and hypocritically branded “racist”. I resent this dishonest and diversionary tactic. Regarding my own racial orientation, I love the fact that Obama (Oh-Vomit) is black; the problem is, that’s the only thing I like about him. I also love Mexicans; I used to live in a neighborhood of (LEGAL) Mexicans, and they are FINE NEIGHBORS! I totally understand that Mexico is a Hell-hole and many (probably most) of their citizens want to get out. But look at yourself! It’s no fault of any of us that their government is corrupt, and it’s not our job to fix it, unless out of compassion we AS INDIVIDUALS choose to do so. If you’re not a total hypocrite, recruit an army of those who agree with you, and go fix Mexico. That would be a real act of compassion. Put your money where your mouth is, and recognize that OUR money, jobs, our land and our national identity are not yours to steal and hand over to people who are breaking our laws.

          • eddie47d

            To Bob from Socal; My wife works in a job where most of the employees don’t have citizenship but are working to become Americans.It can take years. A couple of them have become citizens but most are still waiting and their papers are legal. I know what the likes of you would do to these “illegals” so they do live in fear even with papers. Most I know are good,honest hard working people. Two of these people have been in my house.So I’m not scared of these “dangerous criminal invaders”. So I don’t just think of myself ,Richard W. Faith. I live by the Bible as much as possible and I donate food to our church.

          • Rebecca

            Eddie! What part of ILLEGAL is giving you problems? If the ILLEGAL alien children don’t get education or health care, then their ILLEGAL alien loving parents will just have to go home with them. They are not receiving benefits, they are stealing. We aren’t talking about helpless abandoned cats or dogs who need human intervention, these are people who know they are breaking the law, and don’t care. Go to a store and steal supplies for them to use, see if you don’t get arrested… Same logic, pal. The ILLEGAL aliens are stealing from us all.

        • Dbluei51

          You are so right! The idiots can’t see that! Oh that would discriminate against the illegals! Oh My Gosh!They are give more rights than us and they are breakig the law! If they give amnesty to the illegals they need to give it to anyone that has broken the law since they came here!WE NEED TO STOP THIS NONSENSE AND GET RID OF OBAMA AND THE OTHERS THAT ARE CAUSING OUR NATION TO DETIORATE! time to stand up for or rights! Time for a revolution! Find out how to get involved!Join the Tea Party! Sign all the petitions!VOTE in office the people that are going to make a change!Get rid of all the old baggage in congress, let’s clean house people!Or only God can helps us now!Our forefathers would be so ashamed!

      • Bob from Socal

        You haven’t been doing your home work sir. I have lived in California all my life. Most of that time in southern California. Until the late sixties in California, Life was fairly safe. Since that time the mexicans have been pouring across the border at will. At this time in history the gangs in Los Angeles far out number the police. The greatest number of gang members in LA are Hispanic. I would bet that that is also nationwide. There are at least 500-600 unsolved murders in LA every year. They don’t post those statistics to keep tourism in La coming. Almost all of these murders are attributed to gangs. I dont’ have a friend, aquaintence, or family member that hasn’t had some sort of run-in with a gang member. These are murderous people that have no love of life and liberty. Stop the flow of illegal aliens coming into this country, and then crack down on the gang activity, then you will really see a decrease in crime stats across the board, across the whole U.S..

      • dan of arizona

        we passed a law that forbid any employment so as to dry up the markets and to send there a$$s to california heavy fines first offence lose your lic. do to business in our state so if they dont have work we have saved a ton of money free rides to calif.

    • Dave

      So what you are saying is that the law says not to profile based on race so it won’t happen. The law says it’s not discriminatory so it won’t be right? You don’t think this law gives license to a police officer to stop any vehicle containing people who look Mexican and search them? It’s you who is hiding behind semantics. The law is giving the police permission to pull harrass anyone who looks like they “could be” illegal. There are a lot of legal and documented Mexican looking people in this country. Do they really deserve to be harrassed?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Dave,
        do yourself a favor and READ the law!!! It specifically states that an officer can not stop solely on the basis of race or appearance of race!!!

        • Rebecca

          READ THE LAW! SB 1070. The police are not going to stop people simply because they aren’t white, for heaven’s sake. They are not going to stop these people just because they are brown skinned. Use your logic, if nothing else. How long would it take to pull over and question every single brown-skinned person in Arizona? That would be impossible! The day is not long enough…

      • ashforkdan arizona

        when your pulled over what are you asked for clue your drivers licence and registration and proof of insurance if you dont have any then just maybe you are an illegal maybe we should say thats ok carry on look pee brain the mexicans are not the only ones that cross try expanding you brain terrorist on a daily bases are coming across there not here to pick fruit we have only been attacked once on our soil and you lost a lot of your rights do you think just maybe the barry plan is to let them strike again as to losing more of your rights all in the name of allah so he can lift the borders under marshal law when there will be no congress for min. six months what do you think the constitution would be then null and void thats what one world order is

      • Delores Smith

        DAVE,
        You are “misguided” about the Arizona law. I live in Arizona, and this actually happened. It’s a good example of the law. A policeman stopped a speeding car. The driver got out and ran away (crime: speeding and abandoning his vehicle). Suddenly, the back door popped open. Nine people jumped out of the car and all of them ran in different directions (reasonable
        suspicion: illegals??). Background checks can be made on illegals if you can catch them. This is a national security issue, not civil rights. As an American, I resent Obama destroying our economy. If this law doesn’t through, I am going to make maps, showing the directions to Washington, D.C. I will hand them out to anyone that I find is illegal.
        Delores Smith
        Delores109@cox.net

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Dorothy

        I dont understand the profiling sillyness,if i get stopped by a policeman i am ask to show my ID and if i write a check i am ask to show my ID. When i go to my doctor i am ask to show my ID and my insurance card. I dont think of that as harrassment or profiling. If the state is sitting on the border of mexico and the illegals are coming across from mexico how foolish it would be to be checking out whites are any other race,You people should grow up that think that is profiling.

      • Dbluei51

        GIVE me a break we are white and the police pull us over when ever they like, that is part of protecting us and the law! If you are not doing anything wrong then what is your problem! It is for us and our protection and they should realize that and not be offended!It is to protect us and them and our Country! So look at the whole picture and stop being a bunch of cry babies! Suck it up we need to clean America up!

  • ONTIME

    This speech or rant was designed to tell the illegals that he was going to give them amnesty and that all voters of hispanics decent should give him their vote.

    His actions are to put AZ in a bind and stop them from using their legal ability to enforce states rights and continue to delay the promised help with border enforcement to benefit his amnesty plan. He is all politick and he is as deadly and uncaring as Stalin and Mao.

    • eddie47d

      So Reagan was deadly and uncaring for granting amnesty and must have been out for the Republican vote. Same stupid logic you use.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Waaa Bush bad!! Waaa Bush mean!!! Waaa edduh wanna kiss Obummer butt!!!

        • eddie47d

          Bush!!//!! You an idiot Joe!

          • cr747

            No!!! eddie47d,,you are the idiot!!! Can’t you see logic’s in what the prez is doing???if not you are brain dead….

          • eddie47d

            To cr747; Go out and pick your cucumbers>Someday you’ll understand that!Your the one who doesn’t get it. Go back to your HOME country for it certainly isn’t the good ol’ USA

      • Ted Crawford

        Not a student, or even a reader of, history we see, eddie. Reagans issuance of amnisty was, he though, his part of an agreement with progressives. The agreement was I’ll (Reagan) grant amnesty to those allready here and you will secure the border to prevent further problems. He kept his word, they, surprizingly?, did not!!

        • eddie47d

          Apparently he did not secure the border and he was the President for 8 years. You say Obama as President 1 1/2 years should have the border secured. You don’t come even close to winning that one.

          • ashforkdan arizona

            did 911 happen in some other country. there wasnt any terrorist plotting to kill americans at home that we had to worry about but when it did then the promise of closing the open borders to protect the citizens should have been top priority then. we are still waiting and waiting and waiting i dont care what the bleeding heart liberals say, they are just hiding from reality like always you no the earth is dieing from all there suv’s that they drive for sure man

          • Rebecca

            EDDIE! Your Lord Obama doesn’t WANT the border secure. He hates this country, and is attempting to remake it in his own image. God is laughing at you, bible man.

          • eddie47d

            Rebecca: Apparently you hate yourself.

        • cr747

          Ted Crawford,,plainly spoken…Thanks!!!!!!!

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

      Did Obama and the Democrats care that the majority of Americans were against the ‘Health Care Bill’ that they voted for before anyone even read what was in it? Why should they care about how a large majority of Americans are against illegal alien amnesty? Is it that hard to figure out? After the Democrats lose their majorities in both houses of Congress, the ‘Lame Duck’ majority they have will take revenge on those who voted them out and pass the amnesty before the new Congress can be seated, just wait and see. Unemployment for true Americans will be the norm for many a year to come, even the Republicans won’t have a big enough majority to over-ride Obama’s vetos. Obama will be holding out for the 2012 elections to get re-elcted, with Hillary as his Vice President, by the 20 to 30 million amnesty citizens, the government is lieing to everyone by saying that their numbers are only 10 to 12 million, find other prognosticators and find out the true number. At that time the Democrats will have enough voters to make a return to the majority in both houses of Congress. Bright future, isn’t it. Who is the traitorous person who is responsible for making Obama prove his eligibility by showing a true ‘Birth Certificate’, and why isn’t that being done now? Doesn’t anyone believe in what the ‘Constitution’ stands for and requires from its citizens anymore? You got the ‘Change’ you wanted and Obama promised, now be happy with it, because its to late to change back unless Obama can be proven uneligible to hold the Presidency under the requirements of the ‘Constitution’.

      • eddie47d

        Stop imitating Glenn Beck with your half facts/half fearmongering. Your still not getting your own TV show!

      • Smilee

        latest polls show more people like the health care reform law than dislike it by 7 percentage points, the truth is getting out now and trumping all the misinformation that people based their opinions on at the time it was passed

        • ashforkdan arizona

          really maybe there all out of health care because they dont have jobs i would really like to see those facts show us

          • Smilee

            Facts are there if you were interested in the truth Google it, I do not remember which pool but all have been showing a shift in that direction and because of it the rhetoric has cooled quite a bit amongst many, what is being out of work got to do with weather you will like this law or not?

  • JC

    Sensible people understand that.

    • JC

      That was in response to howe.

  • J.M.R.

    first off thanks for having a real american for the govenor of AZ. we have learned by now i hope that the dick-tater is as non american as it gets. he needs to be tried for treason and by the way where in the hell is the F.B.I. or the C.I.A. the deal in philly proves he a non american anti-law. his cronies need to go down with him too. impeach impeach

    • Dave

      Obama is the President of the United States. That’s about as American as you can get you idiot. You all need to turn off Fox and get an education outside of Texas.

      • J.M.R.

        he may be your president he not mine, he’s a dick-tater and nothing more, so wake up before he shoves you in a hole and covers you up

      • JC

        The Kenyan is an imposter and a a con man, and he is no American.
        He may be your President, he is not mine.

        • http://allycatred@live.com Debbie andersen

          GOOD WE DON’T NEED YOU.

      • ashforkdan arizona

        dave you are truly an idiot why do you think barry is a citizen did you see his birth cirtificate no i dont think so why is he using oboma as his name its not legal ether why does he have 16 social security numbers what is it that you belive in him every word that has come out of this muslims mouth has been a lie you are the reason we are here you are the problem shut up

      • cr747

        Dave where did you get you 6th grade education????? Off the back of cocoa puffs????? Wake up to the real world…It is sure as hell the prez is in a deep coma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Smilee

          Whatever you say he is still the president!!!!!

          • ashforkdan arizona

            just keep smiling smilie every things going to be alright as soon as you wake up and smell the coffee trust me theres nothing there to be afraid of

          • Smilee

            Like I said:

            Whatever you say he is still the president!!!!!

          • cr747

            Smilee..Obama and Michelle are squatters..They claimed the white house,,and are squatters..Just like in the old days when people where looking for land they would find a place,,and squatt..So Obama is not a president..He is a squatter,,plain and simple..His time is limited because he himself is an illegal immigrant..Born in Mombassa,Keyna..Even his grandmother said that..

          • libertytrain

            CR747 – nice to see you posting again.

          • cr747

            Thanks libertytrain

            Looks like eddie ak47,,or what ever he calls himself,,and Smilee just woke up from a one and a half year sleep…They think the squatters occupying the white house is a president…lol…He is a looser,,a communist,,Kenya born even his Grandmother said that…I have got his birth certificate laying on my desk from Mombasa,Kenya by Dr. JAMES O.W.ANG’AWA… JOHN KWAME ODONGO Supervisor of Obstetrics,,Certificate Number 32018…Fourth day of August, 1961 at 7:24PM….Weighing 7 pounds 1 ounce,,and was 18 inches long…Sounds to me like we have an illegal immigrant in the white house….

  • Meg

    We need immigration reform and that is the only answer. Our government should stop dragging their feet on getting this accomplished in to law. I think that our government should work with Arizona and the other border states and NOT make the problem even bigger.
    I welcome those who come here for a better life as this is what America is all about, but I can’t tolerate those who come here to break laws, sell drugs, put fellow Americans in danger. Those who are willing to learn English and love America I welcome with open arms. If they live here illegally and really want to be Americans and have NOT committed dangerous crimes, sold drugs, but came here because they wanted a better life for their children, Yes I would love to see them get amnesty. Those who are in prison send back to Mexico or the country they came from and let their country deal with them. God Bless us all. Americans need to remember that it is not only Mexicans coming here illegally, but also those from other countries!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Meg,
      We can not afford these illegals. Each and every one that gets amnesty and holds a low paying job will cost a great deal more in services than they pay for in taxes. That drain is a big part of why California is bankrupt! So please let them go home and come here through legal channels where the number coming here with low paying skills can be controlled!

      • eddie47d

        Yes, Immigration,in itself,should be controlled but not because of low skilled workers. They work harder than many white collar workers.

        • cr747

          I’m for sure they work harder than you..It seems that the only work you do is lying when you open your mouth just like your brother obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • eddie47d

      Meg, Yours is a welcome comment. Thank You

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

        Eddie;

        You, Meg, and Dave live in Wonderland with Alice. Joe is exactly right. If amnesty is given to the 20 to 30 million illegal aliens here now, then this country will not be recognizeable by all of you. Unemployment will be the norm for all true American citizens for many years to come, and our social programs will be crushed as they are already collapsing now. Are you three really that naive? Read my blog above this one and you’ll see that I predict that you’re going to get just what you think you want, but just like Obama’s ‘Change’ he promised, you’ll wish you hadn’t wanted it after you see the results, because we as a nation will never recover from it. Like the Roman Empire, the demise of the U.S. from within, and we will not have lasted as long as they did.

        • cr747

          Randy,,those 3 you spoke of have shown just how ignorant they are…9 out of 10 immigrants are either thieves,,murderers,, rapist,,drug dealers,,etc:::::Have already sent back over 2 thousand illegals just from the great state of Arizona….

    • Dave

      Nice statement Meg.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

        While you’re congratulating Meg, you might ask her where the funds for the social programs that these amnesty citizens will be eligible for, and require, will come from? The country is bankrupt now, and the trillion dollar deficits that Obama is running every year is soon to cause our currency not to be accepted around the world. The Chinese and everyone else, who hasn’t already, will quit buying our worthless bonds. The kick-in of the ‘Health Care Act’ will require more funds than the government can collect taxes for, plus the 500,000 employess required to administer it cannot be paid, since the government has to borrow money to pay for the employees it already has, and the ‘Cap and Trade Act’ that will be passed soon making everything unaffordable because of the taxes on all carbon based energy, which is 90% of the energy used in the U.S., and without another 800 billion dollar stimulus bill the state and local governments have to layoff at least 25% of their employees, and our economy is not only not creating jobs for todays unemployed, but is projected to lose almost as many jobs as it has already lost because of the afore-mentioned problems, and you want to give amnesty to 20 to 30 million illegal aliens who will take what few jobs there might be. The statement that these illegals work harder than Americans is a lie. I’ve ran crews and worked around some of these illegals and the American worker out works them easily. The American citizen is the hardest working most productive worker in the world, and every year the global productivity reports prove it. Even better than the Chinese, when Americans have work.

        • eddie47d

          It’s closer to 11-15 million

    • ashforkdan arizona

      there are laws to let anyone in but only legally thats why there coming in illegally they want a free ride on our backs there are just as many terrorist coming across that are going to change your mind on amnesty there here to do you great harm not mow your grass there agenda is to break down this country and kill as many of you as they can thats a fact so get your heads out of your a$$ and open your minds because your all about to learn a very hard leason

    • independant thinker

      We defiantely need immigration reform but It would be a major reform if the feds would make a real effort to seal our southern border and enforce the current laws. After that the need (?) to fine tune the laws can be considered.

    • Ted Crawford

      Meg, the broken deal with Reagan proves that you can’t trust progressives. They must, at long last, live up to their part of that agreement! Once they do, and secure the border, then meaningful discusion can begin on immigration reform. NOT ONE SECOND before!!!

    • GregS

      Meg, many of the immigrants to came here LEGALLY are also AGAINST illegals being granted amnesty. Why? Because they (the LEGAL immigrants) went through the ENTIRE process of assimilation into our society. Why should illegals be exempted from this through amnesty? Illegals need to “go to the back of the line” and go through the same process that every one else does to become an American citizen.

      • GregS

        Correction: I meant to say “immigrants who came here,” NOT “immigrants to came here.”

    • Rebecca

      Meg, there is already a process in place to follow to become a US citizen. I have a friend who went through this process to become a citizen, and I also know illegals who are currently sucking the government teat.

      Reform is just another word for amnesty. We cannot financially absorb the entire world. These illegals from Mexico are not necessarily the cream of the crop, they are mainly either the poor or the criminal. They do not contribute financially, they work with stolen or false identification. Yet they absorb benefits, raising government costs. Here in my state social service has been forced to cut back on benefits and slashed employee hours. Amnesty would totally collapse our social services.

      The sudden influx of now-legals would cripple the state. And, no, this isn’t a border state I’m talking about! This is Kansas! So you honestly want to add to the US population, drastically increase unemployment (we can’t find jobs for all of the current citizens, how would we employ all those receiving amnesty)and drive the states out of business?

      While making them citizens would also create taxpayers, (perhaps you are thinking) let me remind you that 47% of taxpayers who are already citizens DO NOT pay taxes. Add the newly forgiven ILLEGAL aliens to this roster. They will not be able to find work, they will be on welfare, their children in the school system, not able to speak English. Bye, bye America…

  • http://charter howe

    It would be comforting if folks got thir facts straight before slamming the Governor of Arizona for lying and profiling. This has to be the biggest joke of the century concerning Gov Brewer and SB 1070 being evil components of a plot to discriminate against Mexicans. The AZ bill if you read it actually prohibits racial profiling and is not used as a circumvention of police power to single out Mexicans who may or may not be in this country illegally. If you really want the truth, Sheriff Arpiao and the neighboring Sheriff in the Arizona county which borders Mexico have public records which are are available to the public, which show that over a million pounds of Marijuana, huge loads of heroin, crack and metamphetamines are coming across the border. There has been several murders which we hear about like Mr. Krantz and a police officer which is fact not fiction and Phoenix Az is the worlds 2nd leading kidnap capitol and the majority of these crimes are well documented to be perpetrated by illegal immigrants. The human slavery directed toward illegals is tragic and without federal assistance at the border these problems will persist. Having said all of that, where do our liberal democratic friends think drugs and criminal activity comes from. Gov Brewer is pleading for help from the pander-in-chief and even if every illegal immigrant was not hauling drugs across the border, would it not be safe to believe that 50% or more of the 450,000 coming across the border are hauling drugs for the cartels. Who do you think supervises each group of illegals to illegally cross the border, Mother Theresa. If there is any intellect available, think about the droves of illegals being escorted by coyotes who walk in lockstep with the drug cartels. They are not helping illegals to find work and a new opportunity in life, they carry sophisticated weapons and have an allegiance to the cartel boss’s to deliver the product no matter the cost to the illegals or the state they decide to invade. I spent 29 years in the miltary and I understand what is happening and to support a radical ideology at the expense of United States citizens is not only unamerican it is criminal. I plan to write to Gov Brewer to get her to provide the documented proof of this outrageous illegal activity, so that the intellectually challenged can see the facts for themselves. This devisive President and the true racist like Al Sharpton and a host of others are fanning the flames of a poentially devisive disaster. Gov Brewer never singled out Mexican citizens, she said illegals coming across the border and that included over 500 non mexicans and I wonder how many were Al Qeada operatives bringing in a dirty bomb to blow up our cities so that they could martyr themselves for Allah. Or maybe the terrorist want to sneak into our country under the cover of illegal crossings to later form groups to plan and carry out mass murder on our transportation systems or our huge malls. Does anyone believe Janet Napolitano (DHS) can provide protection from terrorist who like to commit mass murder in American cities. I am not a racist and the issue is not racism, its protection of our borders and our way of life. Its about the rule of law and protecting and preserving our Constitution to allow future generations of America to enjoy the freedom and prosperity they can achieve if they work hard toward that goal. I did not waste 29 years of military life for anything less and although I want to see a fair plan for legal immigration, I will push back hard against any politician or person that wants to crap on the American dream that my children have every right to expect. Just remember to show up at the polls Nov 2010 and in 2012, because it is a matter of National urgency to vote against the socialist democratic machine that’s creating a banana republic. These talking point do-gooders who claim we need immigration reform before the borders are secures are part of the problem. To realistically resolve a border crisis problem, a point has to be reached where discussion should take place to fix the issues. The problem that the liberals and the illegals have is that they want to continue breaking the laws while they are dragging on discussions to nowhere. Secure the damn border Mr. President and stop with the horse crap slammed on WE THE PEOPLE.

    • George

      The fact that the law forbids racial profiling does not mean that racial profiling won’t come into play in the enforcement of the law. All that does is make it possible to throw out the charge if there is evidence of racial profiling.

      • kate8

        Racial profiling in AZ is, in reality, a bogus issue. Since a large percentage of the population in the SW is Hispanic, including law enforcement and politicians, I just don’t see how this could come into play.

        It’s just more ruse and smokescreen by the elites to dis the American people. Which is the real issue here. We the People are being ignored, marginalized and ridiculed while illegals are shown preferencial treatment by those whose job it is to represent US!

        I believe that this is just another poke-in-the-eye on the road to inciting a civil war.

        • eddie47d

          Slaves were brought to America to work our fields and we had a Civil War over that. Mexicans and others are brought to America to work our fields. Mexicans may have a greater choice but both were brought here by there corporate equals to do low paying and demenial work. At least respect them for the work they do under dire conditions. We can fix our borders without all this demonizing. Few on this site know the difference between a loyal worker for a company and a drug dealer who is sneaking in. I support Arizonas law as far as going after the drug runners and anyone involved in local crimes.

          • Stan Lee

            Eddie 47: Supporting a law against illegal entry into our country isn’t a matter of who’s a drug dealer and who’s a field worker. Illegal is illegal! Not taking the part of drug dealers, but they hardly flood emergency rooms and put hospitals out of business. If the hospitals can stay open, it’s tax payers who subsidize the hospitals financial losses. That’s all of us who work for a living and pay taxes as a result.

            I agree that Mexican folks are hard workers, and also the majority are family people who can’t make it in their own country.
            We don’t need Obama’s idea of “Comprehensive Immigration Reform.” That’s a B.S. title anyway. Another bureaucratic “feel good” name!

            What is needed is a closed,guarded border, allowing workers to enter with work papers certified by a qualified American agency. Most of these workers don’t care about an Oath of Allegiance to our country. They sneak in to make whatever living they can. But, we need a real system to know who they are, arrest record or not, address at home in their country,finger prints, etc. In short, we must know who they are and how many there are!

            They’d need a medical plan of some sort for non-citizens. That will force their wages up. They need proper documents in order to legally drive a motor vehicle. There will be at least a liability insurance cost, in conformance with state laws where they work. More expense.
            They will need a legal address here, subject to inspection by Immigration Service. More expense.

            Once all those necessary expenses are calculated, I wonder how many would rush in when entry could only be by legal means? Such expenses, once known, could bring wages up to what Americans would work for in the first place. Of course, Union interference would enter into the equasion, whether legal American worker or legal guest worker. THat would be a drain on the worker’s wage, it hasn’t proved to be much else.

          • eddie47d

            To Stan Lee;Most of what you said is valid and we must have control of our borders. Yet,Since no American will work in the fields it makes no sense to send them all back.Americans would rather starve than pick oranges,cherries,spinach or tomatoes,ect. It makes even less sense to make these field workers go back home every year and then reapply. If we need these workers then grant them citizenship and quit playing with their lives.That only keeps poor people poor. You almost never see a rich nomad anywhere in the world yet we want them to be just that.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            edduh47DUH!,
            Are you honestly so naieve as to think that once they are legal all of them are going to stay in the feilds at low wages???? Why would they do that when they can go to just about any factory and make at least double??? That koolaid not only makes you drunk edduh it makes YOU stupid!!!

          • Rebecca

            EDDIE! ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL. We aren’t being moralistic. If a bank robber says please and thank you, is it ok to rob the bank?

          • eddie47d

            Rebecca; As I have said a few times if you don’t want them here get out in the fields and pick the crops yourself. No excuses now!

  • http://msn Kerri

    To Meg. These people broke our laws, snuk into our country illegally. Why would you want to give away the most presious thing America can give to a person? The right to live here and to become a citizen? I don’t get it. Do it the right way, with the permission and blessing of America. I am for deportation. If they want to live here, if they want to become a citizen, go home, get to the back of the line and apply for permission to enter our country.
    Our government is required to enforce the laws of our country. By not enforcing immigration law, by not protecting American citizens by protecting our borders they have broken the oath that they took. It’s all politics. There have been more Americans killed by illegals in one year than we have lost in the past 9 years and 2 wars. Does that not tell you how these polititions care about us? Any elected politition who has voted or indicated that they would vote FOR any kind of Amnesty or path to Citizenship as they are calling it should be voted out of office. They are not concerned about the illegal or the Americans who voted them in, they are counting on a new voteing block for thier next election.

    • eddie47d

      So about 3,000 have been killed in this past year by illegal? I’ve not seen any such stories anywhere. That would be an important issue if true.

      • ashforkdan arizona

        then you should stop reading the liberal press and start reading the truth try world net news among others

    • Oh Please…

      “If they want to live here, if they want to become a citizen, go home, get to the back of the line and apply for permission to enter our country.”……..My feelings exactly – any action other than this is a complete slap in the face to ALL those that have and continue to legally enter the country. What about THEIR efforts, THEIR desire for a better life??? Talk about discriminatory….those that actually ARE OBEYING the law essentially are being penalized with the ‘amnesty’ efforts to (reward) give citizenship FIRST to those who disregarded/disrespected our laws for entering our country. Whether the majority of these illegals are otherwise decent/hardworking people is really irrelevant….those that are currently waiting/attempting to enter LEGALLY are likely decent & hardworking too. The process for entering legally is there for a reason….no matter HOW wonderful ALL the people ‘looking for a better life’ may be…the US cannot afford to sustain taking them ALL in, in large masses. ONLY those who initially demonstrate respect for the US by abiding by the law to enter should be granted citizenship first.

  • Cindy

    This November we need to vote in order to make our president a lame, so he can no long push his socialist agenda. This is a president who does not belive in our consistution. If he cannot do his job he needs to get the hell out of office. Drop the lawsuit on Arizona and do your job Mr. President. Just to also give you a clue Mr. President, the black panthers who threated people outside voting places belong in jail. Having charges droped makes our President look like he does not like or care for any other people other than black people who just want to lazy and want everything handed to them.

    • eddie47d

      What did that other issue have to do with “lazy” black people?

      • Al Sieber

        eddie47d, why are you calling black people lazy? you’re a racist for saying that. I bet you’re a racist and don’t know it.

        • ashforkdan arizona

          al are you sure your not sharpton

          • Al Sieber

            ashforkdan, no I’m not Sharpton, I’m screwing with liberal eddie, hows Ash Fork this time of year? I live not far from you.

        • eddie47d

          Stop being a jerk Al. (words removed for offensive content) Ha Ha Maybe you should move in with Cindy!

          • ashforkdan arizona

            hot and muggy where abouts are you al east or west

          • Rebecca

            I ran a background check on Eddie. He is only 12 years old.

  • Ted Crawford

    When we couple the actions of the DOJ, and their refusal to prosecute any minoritys, with this push for blanket amnisty, we have a “transparent” attempt to drastically, and artificially alter the racial balance of America!
    The rate at which illegal immigration has occurred, does not encourage or even allow assimulation to be achieved! Assimulation is necessary for immigration to be positive in any culture!
    My second concern is, simply this, one assumes that these people come here believing that the conditions here are prefferable to where they came from! Yet by failing to assimulate, therefore bringing with them all the ideas and pratices, that at least in part, caused their home countries to be a place to get away from, they make us just an extention of what they risk so mich to leave!!

  • Ted Crawford

    When we couple the actions of the DOJ, and their refusal to prosecute any minoritys, with this push for blanket amnisty, we have a “transparent” attempt to drastically, and artificially alter the racial balance of America!
    The rate at which illegal immigration has occurred, does not encourage or even allow assimulation to be achieved! Assimulation is necessary for immigration to be positive in any culture!
    My second concern is, simply this, one assumes that these people come here believing that the conditions here are prefferable to where they came from! Yet by failing to assimulate, therefore bringing with them all the ideas and pratices, that at least in part, caused their home countries to be a place to get away from, they make us just an extention of what they risk so much to leave!!

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    The term for those here unlawfully is illegals. This means they broke our laws. Amnesty? Why? Send them home and let them come back legally. Illegals should not be able to get food stamps, medical care, or any kind of public service. They are draining our economy. We have laws that are not being enforced. We have legal ways to do this. If Obama passes a blanket amnesty bill, the future of the United States is in great danger. The money is gone. We cannot keep going like this!

    • George

      The President said nothing about amnesty. He did say that the “illegals” should own up to being here illegally and there should be a process put in place that would help them do it the right way.

      The idea of deporting some 12,000,000 people would overwhelm our system. There needs to be a more sensible way.

      The borders do need to be secured, but building the wall is ugly and environmentally unsound.

      This is a complicated issue requiring more thought than some of the knee jerk solutions that I’ve been reading. The only positive about the Arizona law is that it has placed the issue back on a front burner. Now if we can get Congress to come up with a sound, logical plan we’ll be in business. Perhaps if Senator Kyl and others concerned would offer some possible solutions rather than criticism there might be some hope of getting the job done.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        George… The only reason the illegals issue has become complicated is because the government did not enforce the laws on the books. I do not deny that we have a need for migrant workers. We do not need drug pushers, baby anchors, or any illegal draining our economy in any way. Felons need to be deported. Perhaps branded would help to distinguish those who try to come back. We do not need foreign people in our country that have no intention of becoming a contributor to our society in a positive way. They need to enter legally, learn our language, and work and pay taxes. Some may even elect to serve in our military. There is a right way and a wrong way. It’s pretty easy to figure out.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        George,
        deportation of them would not overwhelm the system monetarily than the BILLIONS it costs the states to keep them on welfare and other social programs!!!

      • ashforkdan arizona

        you actually believe the bs you spew come down to the border let me show you around the government is supposed to reimburse the state for the cost that we have endured what makes you think that only we should pay for the catch and release dont you think every state should help pay if the only problem was the ugly fence that might offend you maybe you should take a walk with me and help pick up all the pray rugs and martir patches that are left in the desert hope your packing more than your clothes with all the gun implacements that protect there paths we may need to do a little clean up work see you there

      • Ted Crawford

        When the progressives honor their part of the broken agreement with Reagan, and secure the border, then and ONLY then should meaningful discusion begin on reform! George, you think that the fence is ugly, if we do not secure our border, within this decade the face of America will look so bad, the fence will seem a masterpiece!!!

  • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

    Aside from the Mexicans, nobody seems to be paying attention to the even deadlier vermin that slip across our Southern border by the hundreds every day. Men from Pakistan, Iran, Yemen, and every other third-world hellhole where the Islamo-nazis have gained power. They sneak in here and cluster together in their sleeper cells, plotting against us, like cockroaches in the corners of an old, decaying house.
    Does Obama’s “blanket amnesty” include them, too? Those people in Washington can’t possibly be as clueless as they seem. They must be doing this on purpose.

    • George

      Where did the President say anything about a “blanket amnesty?”

    • http://?? Joe H.

      jessica,
      You are, of course, right! then there’s the twenty some Afghan military trainees that have misteriously “disappeared” here in the U.S.!!!! What’s next? Are the prisoners that are supposed to get trials in NYC gonna all excape and “disappear” as well???

    • ashforkdan arizona

      jessica you are so right and it is getting allot worse day by day barry knows exactly what he is doing and the time table is set national secuity is what its about and treason charges should be upheld for not defending the borders or citizens or his oath of office in all my days i have never seen such arrogance deceit or unamerican president in my life time this imposter must go

    • ashforkdan arizona

      way to go jessica

  • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST ANGIE BEDENBAUGH

    EVERYTHING OBAMA DOES IS AGAINST THIS COUNTRY. IF I LIVED IN ARIZONA. I WOULD CARRY TWO GUNS.

    • George

      In that case I’ll drive around Arizona. Apparently reasoned discussion to find solutions do not work for you—only guns. Too bad! I used to think Arizona was such a beautiful place.

      • http://personalliberty rob

        George….I have to agree with you that there are more “IILEGALS” in this country other than ones from Mexico. OBAMA may have not used the word “AMNESTY” in this speech, BUT, this is his “AGENDA” along with previous presidents before him…OBAMA is forcing the issue. What I don’t understand is WHY “ILLEGALS” are GIVEN free handouts at the expense “LEGAL” taxpaying citizens… YOU want to talk “SOLUTIONS”??? To start with,CUT out ALL access to the freebies to the “ALL” illegals. We won’t need deportation, they will leave on their own. As for their rights, when do “ILLEGALS” have “RIGHTS” and privileges. We don’t need immigration reform, enforce the present laws….There is a “FRONT DOOR” process to become a citizen “LEGALLY”. The “BACK DOOR” entry to citizenship is cowardous and “ILLEGAL”…You don’t talk about the monetary expense at the cost of you and I, or the country for that matter. How about YOU paying my share? Again, “AMENESTY” is the “AGENDA”.

        • independant thinker

          As I have said before we DO need immigration reform.

          If the feds will secure our southern border to the best of their ability and vigoursly enforce our current immigration laws that would be major reform over immigration policy for the last 20 or so years.

      • JC

        It was a beautiful place George…but it’s turning into a garbage strewn ghetto. The people there have every right to fight back and carry guns.

      • ashforkdan arizona

        georgie please do what it takes to live here is common sense and apparently something that you lack you have been bambyized go to disneyland where you can hide your head and let the big boys do the things that need to be done stay off my roads

      • http://???? Nate

        George;…It still is a BEAUTIFUL place,,& we WILL DEFEND IT !!! TO THE DEATH…..

    • Harold Olsen

      Several years ago I read a book about Wyatt Earp. In it he was quoted as saying that the serious gunfighter wore two pistols, carried a rifle, a shotgun and a Bowie knife. If I lived in Arizona, that is what I would do.

      • Al Sieber

        Well Harold, you could do that in Ariz., and nobody would care.

  • s c

    So, Old Rome has come to America. DIVIDE ET IMPERA has produced an American(?) Nero. Thanks, Haavid.
    Now, if the EPA would get off their collective, dead arses and investigate what’s in the water at Haavid, maybe we’d put an end to this insanity.
    When and if this organized crime gang of thugs learns the difference between unite and divide is when I’ll have a reason to believe that ANYONE in this administration is even close to being SANE.

  • Dean

    “immigration opponents have blasted the government for being part of the problem rather than the solution.” They are the problem!

    • independant thinker

      I agree the feds are the problem.

      • JC

        The Feds and their “owners” are the problem.

  • http://msn.com Weary Citizen

    I live in Arizona. Yes the trial is starting for the two individuals (two Mexican illegals with previous criminal records) who shot an Arizona police officer point blank in the face. Do you think there is a problem with illegals in this state? I frequent a post office in a heavily populated Hispanic neighborhood. Often times when I am there patrons of Hispanic descent are obtaining money orders and sending them to Mexico. I suspect it is United States money obtained as cash wages without social security withdrawn. These individuals also therefore have no medical insurance provided by their corrupt employers. They flood our hospitals as welfare recipients. We the tax paying U.S. citizens are paying for all of this. This has been going on for many, many years. This is one of the reasons our welfare system, which is a socialist system, is breaking the pocketbooks of the citizens of this country. The solution will not be an easy one, but something has to be done.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Weary Citizen…
      I agree with you. If you haven’t read about the Fair Tax, you should look it up. If that could become enacted, the illegals who are being paid under the table for their work would end up paying what everyone else does in taxes when they purchase goods. I cannot understand why this is not passing?

      • independant thinker

        It is a fallicy that illegals do not pay taxes for they do pay some. The problem is they do not pay all the taxes the rest of us have to pay. What they pay is sales taxes on merchandise purchased at retail stores and property taxes either directly or indirectly if they are purchasing or renting their dwelling place.

  • Norman

    Who’s the idiot here? Us or him? Both.

  • M.L.

    The danger of Americans have never been higher than now, from overseas, from our open borders clear around our country, organized groups inside our country who are radical racial haters, and let us not forget the Oboma’s private army SEIU. He is also changing the face of the country. And to be sure he gets away with it he is trying to unarm us so we can’t fight back. True Americans have never given up, and if there was or is one thing I know WE WILL FIGHT BACK. We need to get impeachment petitions out from every state. Some people are still not getting it. They need to be inlightened. If Oboma gets the Amnesty we will be a latin American country, like or not.

  • valricoslash

    It is amazing that an american leaving the country needs a pasport to get back in but, illegals, without legal documents are welcomed. There is something wrong with this picture. Back in the mid ’80s I was stationed in Del Rio, Tx. The local Mexicans were welcomed across the border to shop in Del Rio (K-Mart and Wal Mart, of course), but they generally went back across to their homes. Many had jobs in Del Rio, but they also went back to their homes. On the other hand some of these same Mexicans would come across the border daily to drop their kids off at American schools. These kids attended without tuition and without paying taxes to support the schools. These people would have a friend or relative that lived in the US and use that address to get their kids into the schools whie American citizens picked up the tab. The same for the regional hospital. But, they always went back home. What really frosted me however, was the fact that the schools would fly the Mexican flag along side Old Glory like it belonged there. Since when do we fly a foreign flag on a public building?

    But, we did have thousands of illegals that came across the border passing through the back yards of our neighborhood on their way inland and away from the border. On more than one occasion my wife came face to face with these groups and got the crap scared out of her. I am sure that it is worse now.

    Arizona is right on track with their new law and I hope taht the Federal judge sees it that way as well. In fact, it would be nice if the judje ordered the adminstration to actually commit funds to protect the border. The states have the right to protct their soverign land and, for once, the Feds can’t use the Commerce Clause to get their way.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      varicoslash,
      while I agree with what you say, there are many times we fly a foreign flag on a building here in the U.S. but it is NEVER level or above Old Glory! When flown with a foreign flag, ours ALWAYS flies above it here!

    • Stan Lee

      Illegals aren’t welcomed in. They just get here via covert means and nothing is done about them to a great extent. This country has been lax in protecting its borders and it didn’t just start in 2008.

      But, the issue has blown up beyond control, which had to happen sooner or later. It falls upon this President to take action about it, but the only action he’ll take is in pursuit of “imported voters.”
      There is no allegiance from him for the United States Constitution, nor the people of the United States.

      According to the Communist manifesto he adheres to, the people are all “useful idiots.” Yes, every one of us!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Stan Lee,
        Actually the dumazzes that are leaving gallon jugs of water out for them ARE welcoming them with open arms. Wouldn’t it be justice if they were on the receiving end of some of the crime they do???

  • http://msn.com Weary Citizen

    Perhaps the drug cartels of Mexico are paying our politicians to turn a blind eye to our immigration problem. I believe in the past many politicans have been suspected or accused of accepting bribes. Mexico cannot even hold elections without threats and violence from the drug cartels. Recently I read articles about U.S. boaters on the Texas border being chased down and robbed by the cartels. They have already come across into Arizona and kidnapped illegals, holding them until their families pay up. Their activities threaten our way of life.

  • hundabuxt

    If a convicted child molester or otherwise someone convicted of a crime against society is “profiled” by being required to register and have known their location in a neighborhood so as to allow regular citizens the opportunity to make decisions, which might protect his or her family, why would it be untoward for law enforcement the opportunity to check the status of someone suspected of being in the US illegally? If there’s a predominance of Hespanics in the US illegally numbering in the millions and in particular in Arizonia a far above average number of illegal activities represented by Hespanics, I have a struggle with the concept that legal American citizens should be required to suffer at the hands of these people, both criminally and economically in order to protect the “rights” of criminals. Legal American citizens have more rights to safety and equity that do those who have broken the law. Who the hell are we trying to protect here? Have we gone nuts? Its not like we’re trying to round them up for extermination in the concentration camps! We are our own worst ememies and liberal thinking is more dangerous and insidious to America than the Taliban.

    • http://msn.com Weary Citizen

      You definitely have a case there!

  • chuck b

    at this very moment we have an environmental disaster with the bp oil spill, we have 20 million or more illegal aliens who have invaded our country, we have at least 15 million people un-employed, most of our large cities and states are on the verge of bankruptcy. we have a president who has ordered our troops in battle to adhere to a ridiculous rule of engagement, can’t shoot at the enemy unless he fires at you and exposes himself. at the same time awarding our troops who will show restraint from firing at the enemey “a citation” he wants to give amnesty to 20+ million illegals and give them voting rights. he asked congress for a $787 million stimulus pkg. and got it. he has spent something like 43% that has failed to do anything and has 57% of this money still untouched, presumably to be used to help democrats get re-elected. while at the same time we have a lot of people running out of un-employment benefits and he won’t use the stimulus money to help extend these benefits. with all this he is still not paying any attention to the disastrous spill in the gulf, in fact he and the fed agencies are doing their best to hinder clean up operations. why? cap & trade is why! another people control bill and higher taxes. if you have never lived under a dictator, you are soon to be initiated, sooner than you think and we have a news media that is helping him at every turn.

  • Harold Olsen

    The left is not serious about immigration reform. They want to grant amnesty to these invaders which would only multiply our problem. We need to stop these invaders permanently from coming into our country. What needs to be done is to stop the influx of these invaders first and then–maybe–consider amnesty for those that are already here, though I’m against that. Granting amnesty and then stopping the influx of illegals is like cleaning up a flood before you stop the leak. It doesn’t solve the problem. But then, the left doesn’t really want to solve the problem. They hate this country so much they are more than willing to turn it over to the people who invade us.

  • independant thinker

    I live in a non border state with a large hispanic (mostly Mexican) population. This major influx of hispanics started about 20 years ago. For several years after they started coming here you would hear about INS raids where they rounded up and deported a group of illegals. Now however you never hear about this happening.

  • http://msn.com Weary Citizen

    Janet Napolitano has recently urged U.S. citizens to report any suspicious activities. I wonder if this means I can report people I suspect of being illegal aliens.

    • JC

      Maybe you should report the Kenyan for activities subversive to these United States?

      • http://msn.com Weary Citizen

        You are making us laugh. If only we could. It would make things here so much easier. Does JC stand for Jesus Christ!

        • JC

          Gosh no! It does not stand for Jesus Christ.
          It stands for two fine and old Irish names, my first and last.

    • Stan Lee

      Napolitano was against border crashers while Governor of Arizona. Since she joined the Constitution-violators of the Obama Administration, she been silent about illegal infiltration. I refuse to use the term “Illegal immigration.” Think about that.

  • 45caliber

    “conprehensive reform” means a general amnesty. “GOP support” means that the GOP should do whatever he tells them to do – which is vote his way. It also means that he doesn’t have enough Democrat votes to carry it without some GOP votes.

  • Charlie

    It is already illegal under federal law to be in the country illegally, but Arizona is the first state to make it a state crime and add its own punishment and enforcement tactics. Most Americans and State agree with the strong Governor who is doing her job. We do not want this “plague” to spread throughout the US.

    The government contends that the Arizona law violates the supremacy clause of the Constitution, a legal theory that says federal laws override state laws. The Federal Government should have been responsive years ago. They were in negelect of their duty. AZ has a thousand of immigrat’s to provide for and the drugs that hurt our children sumggled in along with guns is a very negetive issue Three other Strong past presidents deported many illegal immigrants. Has our President? No he fights against the right of the AZ residents and uses tax payers money to do so! Its as if the President wants to reward illegals with amnesty for his benefit!
    We don’t need more drugs, guns, violence and killing our children and abuse from Illegals or Governments lack of attention to the American citizens . Enough is enough The Feds missed it by years. Tax payers worked hard to maintain them selves and follow the law. Illegals have no business here. The President now taking action against AZ on tax payers money is lacking good judgement of behalf of many states and judgement of and for the people that live and are citizens here.
    This appears to me to be a vote collecting issue and not in the best interest of protecting Americans.

    Washington in general has lost their connection to the American people. All they care about is themselves and their agenda…, greedy and positions, certainly not their constituents. They keep forgetting who pays the bills…and their salaries. “We the people” are the Government and we hired them to manage a position on behalf of the Americans citizens. They took and oth to do so! United we stand I see a colored map of the united states as a puzzle with broken pieces. I do not feel, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as one should have with as a working unit. I feel he is not for us, but against us, and that is sad, as being a leader of a Country as beautiful as USA, he should be given the greatest respect as a Strong person with Leader ship for the American people. Its as if he is saying ” reward illegals with amnesty” at the cost of the tax payers that are so abused with lost homes and work.. Every thing keeps going up, Passport,Cigarett’s stamps,medical,airline bags even buying a pillow. on a flight – who has heard of that in the past? never! Lost jobs should be a top priority In my heart I truly believe this is God’s Victory for his people, the time will show, and we the people will prevail and pick up our economy and rights! We are a nation of laws. We have a responsibility to protect our citizens and to protect the integrity of our country and the government
    God Bless America and its people plus guidance t the Gov. of AZ

  • Mike N.

    I live in N.E. Pa. where the problem with illegals have drained the financial resourses of small cities like Hazelton and when Mayor Lou Barletta tried to resolve the situation by making it illegal to hire or rent to illegal aliens the federal courts declared his measures unconstitutional. Activist judges are the problem. They don’t consider the law or the constituion as they should. they rely on thier personal beleifs and those of thier sponsors when they make a ruling. Whats worse is ther is no way to remove them short of a lynching. S.C. and federal judges should be vetted by the people and not the politicaly and morally corrupt politicians.

    • Stan Lee

      Mike N: Lou Barletta needs everyone’s support in your PA district. You know he’s a far better man than his Democrat opponent.
      But, the Democrats are throwing lots of advertising money against Lou. They’ve tried to break him once before, but he’s back. He needs help from all of us. Donations need not be large, he needs many $10 donations. Pass the word, please. Do your best.

  • mavis

    I DON’T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I AM FED UP WITH THE OBAMA
    PRESIDENCY HE HAS MADE US THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD HE HAS OTHER COUNTRIES TRYING TO TELL US WHAT TO
    DO. I GUESS THEY HAVE WATCHED HIM BOW DOWN TO SO MANY DIGNITARIES FROM OTHER COUNTRIES THAT THEY MAY THINK HE HAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH HIS BACK. FEAR NOT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HIS BACK IT’S ALL IN THE HEAD. AMERICA HAS NEVER HAD TO BOW TO ANY COUNTRY SINCE WE WON
    OUR INDEPENDENCE FROM ENGLAND. IF OBAMA HAS HIS WAY WE
    MAY BE KISSING THE BACKSIDE OF EVERYONE. NEVER IN MY LIFE TIME HAS THERE BEEN SUCH A LOSER IN THE WHITEHOUSE.
    WITH ALL HIS BOWING AND SCRAPING DO YOU THINK WE ARE IN A BETTER POSITION TODAY? MEHPENSACOLA,FL

    • Stan Lee

      Mavis: The laughing stock of this world are the gullible, ignorant, American voters who compromised their freedoms by electing Obama.
      Imagine, the freest and best country in the world getting highjacked by a Communist who slipped by us, with the help of higher-up Democrats, without us knowing a damned thing about his credentials.
      Now, it’s sunk in that elections have consequences.
      The road back to sanity won’t be an easy one, I hope we’re all up to the task.

    • http://allycatred@live.com Debbie andersen

      NO ONE WOULD WANT TO KISS YOU ANY WHERE.L BLACK OR WHITE, YOUR HEAD IS ALL CRAZYS. you need to go to the big house and get help.

  • http://gmail i41

    Just remember, once a welfare rat, always a lazy butted moron democrat. Indians have no interest in being self suffient, hell bells the government gives them everything. Indians had lands given thousands of acres and are to damn lazy to do anything productive with it. The governemnt destroyed their heritage when Indians found out stealing was a crime. Blacks haven’t been here as long, but their tribal need for a leader, other wise the ability to be productive or produce something useful, the demcrat party has been their guide. Now the group is so stupid and lazy, drugs are the only enertprize they can get their braids around. Dems want everyone to be a ward of the government and Onumnutts think he is such a bright trained marxist muslim bastard. Mexicans I have worked with in several states, are hard workers the first or second gerneration when they get here, but get lazier and more like all welfare rats, breed and whine about their heritage, I guess the tetonic people will have to start kicking some serious dead asses in this country.

    • http://???? Nate

      i41;….Such an uneducated statement (about the natives)They were put on desolate lands, in unfruitfull areas of the US, Forced on WINTER marches, meant to kill all that were`nt healthy enough to make it, slaughtered, murderd, & treated worse than you can imagine….They had to give in, & accept what little the white man thought he should have…..AND, We have made a comeback…YOU did “NOT” anialate us….I`am sure alot of you will give childish comebacks,,,,,I KNOW THE TRUTH…From my own ancestors….

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Nate,
        No childish retorts from me. what you say is 100% true. That and more.

    • coal miner
  • chuck b

    multiculturalism is the very thing that will destroy this country and it’s just a matter of time. every race wants to be the dominant one it’s a natural instinct. intelligence is the deciding factor. however, there are the liberal types that think we can all skip down the freeway smoking pot and sing “happy day are here again”. everyone is their brother.
    if their is a god and he made man, he would have made us all alike, we are all created equal, but i don’t think he meant for us to all sleep in the same house.
    so i think we are headed for one big race riot in the near future, of course the liberals will have a hard time choosing sides and i really don’t think they would be much help anyway.

  • Stan Lee

    It was the Obama Administration that tapped into the boogey man of “racial profiling.” It hasn’t happened, and the AZ law doesn’t go into force until July 29th.There are other states which already have been deporting illegals long before AZ had the idea. Rhode Island, a NE Democrat state, for instance. Why doesn’t Obama launch a law suit on that state?

    This was a deliberate scare tactic from Obama via the propaganda arm of the W.H., the so-called “Drive-by Media.” It is surprising that anybody would believe the threat of “profiling” when the spectre of the flood of illegals is causing such problems for all the states of this nation.

    Obama fears his plummeting poll numbers, he’s worried that he could lose much of his Hispanic support. So, his decisions to close off the border or not are purely political, and the citizens of those affected states be damned.He doesn’t care what happens about them.

    Little does he understand that while many Hispanics did vote for him last time, the loss of jobs nationally threatens their livelihoods as legal citizens, as well as other citizens. And, the blacks, who voted for him almost 100%, what will they do? They have the highest unemployment percentage of all and I wonder how long they can collect unemployment compensation. That certainly isn’t the future they’d like to have.

    I don’t believe American citizen Hispanics will support illegality, even if those illegals speak Spanish. Not in the numbers Obama is taking for granted. They will not cut their own throats and those of their families. They should realize that Obama wants to snap his fingers and declare amnesty for “imported votes,” because he has alienated so many Americans who, in the end, care more for their country than they do for Obama. He is their problem, not the U.S. Constitution

    Mexico, itself, is darned rough on Spanish-speaking border crashers. They are summarily deported. Far tougher than this administration, which relies on Mexican President Calderon’s hypocrisy to come here to speak against Arizona. That is first-class hypocrisy!

  • animal

    Born in Texas and retired in Arizona my opinion is “reform hell” close the gate and weld it shut. we have enough mexicans in here illegal or legal. this isnt some vast uncharted place anymore, we know every inch of it and its getting crowded. but keep arguing between yourselves and your parties, dem, rep, lib, cons, whatever, and scatter your votes. waste your vote again on some hope and change bull crap, or rainbows with these guys or free soda pop with those guys. If “We” dont “Unite” behind somebody against this clown in the White House we will eventually be herded into one big state “with Canada and Mexico” .. UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL .. educate your young voters. personally a one world government sounds unappealling to me

  • ashforkdan arizona

    the muslims that came across the border and took flight lessons in arizona where illegals they came to martyr them selves and follow the guran to kill as many infidels as they could know there is a muslim in the white house that is going to finish the job for allha unless we do something about it impeach him for treason as an imposter his agenda is now transparent write your congressman untill he grows a set of wavooes
    or lets phone them untill the ringing in there ears bleed because time is running out people and there will be only one way left we will win 300 million armed citizens against one muslim im sure no one is going to follow him the odds are pretty good dont you think

  • http://msn Mary Emerson

    When are you people going to get it straight ? We are not talking about IMMIGRANTS , we are talking about ILLEGAL ALIANS , those who cross our borders illegally. This makes them criminals, and we are not talking only about Mexicans, we ars talking about terrorists from other countries, who want to kill Americans.. Ever going to get it right ? Or are you bleeding hearts going to support the complete destruction of our country >

    • ashforkdan arizona

      way to go mary keep up the good work

  • hundabuxt

    What are the goals here? Why is this all actually happening? Is the Federal Government that blind to the problems associated with unbridled immigration, particularly given the association with illegal activities such as drugs and related violence? Why don’t they get it? Do they want to make Mexico a 51st State? Is it strictly political and to stop illegal activity on the border (safety valve) would unleash a revolution by the millions of have nots, which might result in a hostile country as dangerious as Cuba in close geographic proximity? Is it as nepharious as organized destruction of America as we know it and if so there has to be at least a few like minded legislators in DC that must get it? Why don’t they speak out in alarm about the specifics and dangers such that the entire country becomes alarmed such as we were on 911? Are they afraid? Is the drug trade so lucrative and powerful as to actually command the loyality of our own government? Is it an unstopable spiritual force leading us to the horrors of Biblical Revelation, during which many people of power are sufficiently blinded to permit God’s plan to come to pass and for America with her power having to be taken out of the way so Israel could only survive with God’s intervention and Biblical prophesy can be fullfilled? I see no hint of America in Revelation. I read some intellegent, compelling posts here, which leads me to believe many of us get it but our representatives do not apparently. I doub’t our Fereral Government will ever get it without violent action to get their attention by those who see our country drifting away from greatness and even that level of effort might be too late. November will be a pivotal political plebiscite, which will probably be our last opportunity to get our country back. We’ll still have two more years of the executive branch to deal with but he can be made virtually powerless with a sufficient majority in the legislature, particularly with constant pressure from constituents. I wouldn’t put it past Obama to pull something spectacular on a scale such that a plebicite is suspended because the liberal powers know were pissed off. You can bet your ass I am.

  • paul, the villages,fl.

    It’s time we face facts. Comprehenive means AMNESTY.They want these people legalized so they can vote.Are they so stupid to realize the momnet they become legal they will no longer work for low wages. The next step will be to elect their own people, so those who want them here will be out anyway.I sick of this whining about racial profiling.Since most of the ilegals are hispanic, then they are the ones you question.I have to carry identitfication why shuoldn’t everyone else.

  • Rick

    The way I see it is we all need to stop spending time posting comments to each other, and start working on whatever it is going to take to get this criminal out of office. We can’t afford to wait for elections.

  • Charlie

    “Undocumented Workers” Immigration “Reform” I love these phrases! Concocted by the Obamanations…Immigration Reform means what? The Obaminations would have all of us, the media included (and they bit hook, line and sinker) believe that reform = amnesty. IT DOES NOT AND SHOULD NOT! I think nearly everyone in America wants Immigration to be reformed, but most of us do not believe that it means amnesty for “undocumented” workers(that’s a substitute for illegal, it doesn’t have such a negative conotation) It’s like using the word borrower for the word burglar or the word visitor for the word trespasser. So for Obamanites America has come to this? reward the lawbreakers? That’s what amnesty would mean. Ever been in astore and waited on line to buy something you wanted? Some guy walks in and cuts the line to get ahead of you. I guess we should encourage that kind of behavior? Why have immigration laws at all or border control? Just let everyone come and go as they wish. Let’s get rid of all the OSHA laws as well. How would you Obamanites like that? No, the thing that would probably really get you pissed off would be if we disolved labor unions! Why not, then we could allow more illegal aliens to enter the country because there would be more of those jobs that “regular” Americnas don’t really want!

  • gavrilo

    Do you (everybody) really think that GOP would do something (anything) to stop illegals coming to this country???????? BIG NOTHING, they need CHEAP labor and they don’t really care AT ALL.

    • GregS

      Gavrilo, Arizona’s new immigration law proves you WRONG! Furthermore, as many as 12 other states are considering similar legislation. They are TAKING ACTION at the state level, because the current Democratically controlled federal government REFUSES to enforce a federal law that already exists!

  • Maria

    s. Comprehenive means AMNESTY.They want these people legalized so they can vote.Are they so stupid to realize the momnet they become legal they will no longer work for low wages.

    To Paul in Florida,

    Legalization does NOT mean they can vote. I know plenty of legal
    Mexicans and they can NOT vote . They still will work for low wages, as many do not have a formal education , legal or not . I”ve never known one Mexican that said, ” Oh, I’m legal, now I can get a high paying job.” Most are happy to have work, any work . I know alot of illegals too , or I used to know a lot . I”ve helped many of them get back home to Mexico, some didn’t like it here, some were young kids who came here for the American dream , but missed their families and wanted to go home . There is a huge difference between the drug cartels and Mexican Mafia and the regular person in Mexico. Most of us in this country have no connection to the Mafia or criminal activity , so to judge ALL Mexicans as criminals is crazy .

    Alot of it is you don’t like Mexicans, period. Legal, illegal, or
    in between .

    I see the young people in the gangs and I see how some of the areas of my city in Portland, Oregon are overrun with Mexicans and crime .
    Lock them up, send them home, Fine with me, But don’t say every
    Mexican is a bad person. They are not .

    • GregS

      Maria, you said, “Legalization does NOT mean they can vote.” That is simply NOT true. As soon as they are registered to vote, they can vote, and there are plenty of left-wing groups (e.g. ACORN) willing to drive them in truckloads to make sure they are registered and brainwashed, as soon as they are legalized, especially for the November elections.

      Furthermore, no one is implying that all Mexicans are bad people.

  • Nancy

    Eddie, if you would pull your head out of “your presidents” butt, you just might learn something about being LEGAL or ILLEGAL, do you know the difference or do you even care? after reading your post’s you sound like one pathetic jerk!! You just like Obama you could care less what happens to our country!!

    • eddie47d

      Sure do! Obama cares alot about this country and he’s trying to straighten up all the messes he inherited.No different than we would expect from any new President. Obama certainly is not perfect and will have to take responsibility for what gets done and what doesn’t.I also know we are an impatient bunch and want things done yesterday. Yes,Democrates and Republicans alike.My son was unemployed for 8 months,son-inlaw 3 mo’s,brother inlaw 4mo’s,his son 5 mos.. None of it was because of Obama or the immigration issue. Now if the economy tanks anymore or unemployment creeps up again then Obama will have to take full responsibility. The ship of America is about as steady(or unsteady)as it was 2 years ago so if we go into a deep recession going forward then Obama will only have himself to blame. If your son throws a rock through your neighbors window is it your neighbors fault. Obama’s fixed a few broken windows and some he’s only patched. Time will tell if he can repair the whole house.

  • coal miner

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  • Constance

    Eddie47-Obama keeps running up the deficit with programs that will cost a lot of money and will be hurting the middle class. He has tripled the deficit in just 1 1/2 years vs. Bush’s 8 years. He keeps on proposing legislation and bills that will sink our economy and country. If he keeps going this way, we will be bankrupt and in trouble. He should be taken out of the office of president now because he is the most marxist, left president we ever had in our history. The president and congress are no longer listening to the people. They are listening to those who keep them in power. The choices our president makes are VERY POLITICAL and they don’t have the best interests for the legal citizens of this once great country. I knew he was the left most senator in congress and didn’t vote for him. When he won, I told my black nephew (3/4′s black, I’m white) that he could do anything because a black man was elected. I don’t like him because he is pro-abortion, anti-family, and downright VERY liberal. Then add his policies – or lack of policies. He certainly took forever to decide about Afgh. and to give the military more troops. HE HAS AN AGENDA that most of us don’t want! He is Muslim and their number one thing is to jihad and to take over the entire earth to become Islam and Sharia Law. He told the head of NASA that his no. one job was to involved muslim countries and do feel good with them. That isn’t what NASA is about. You people should take more time and look at all coverage. MSM and Fox news and then make a decision. I’m unemployed and keep up by listening to ABC, CBS, Fox, my local and state newpaper and articles I read on the internet. One more thing-illegal aliens were able to sue a citizen living on the border because he was trying to protect his property. They did not throw this case out like they should have because these people were on HIS property getting water and trespassing. This is OUTRAGEOUS!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Linda

    MEXICO IS RUN BY DRUG DEALING MURDERERS AND THEY ARE COMING OVER HERE YOU DIM WITS I HOPE YOU STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID PEOPLE WILL OPEN YOUR BRAIN DEAD EYES, IT IS NOT RIGHT WHAT THAT COMMY IS DOING IN THE WHITE HOUSE HE SHOULD OF BEEN IMPEACHED BY NOW THIS COUNTRY IS ALREADY RUINED IT STARTED THE DAY HE BECAME PRESIDENT

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Linda

    I AM BEGINNING TO BELIEVE IN NOSTRADOMUS’S PREDICTION A MAN FROM THE FAR EAST WILL TAKE US DOWN, AND DARN IF IT ISN’T HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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