Obama’s Gun Control Philosophy: Arm Al-Qaida And Disarm Americans

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Citing his authority under the Arms Export Control Act, President Barack Obama last week waived the prohibition against supplying terrorist groups with arms.

This indicates that Obama knows the so-called Syrian “rebels” are mostly al-Nusra and al-Qaida terrorists, despite the Administration’s repeated lies that it could identify the “moderate” elements of the opposition army.

The façade that the Syrian civil war is simply an extension of the Arab Spring uprising that began almost three years ago has fully fallen away. This is manifested by the opposition to U.S. interference in the Syrian conflict that is expressed by the majority of the American people.

The Syrian civil war is a war manufactured by the United States — as was the Libyan civil war — on behalf of the petrodollar and Saudi Arabia and Israel. Those countries are driving U.S. policy in the region.

That Obama would seek to overtly arm the very terrorist organization that the United States is supposedly at war with in at least four other countries — and that a number of members of the U.S. Congress support such a thing — demonstrates inconclusively America is being governed by psychopaths and controlled by foreigners, banksters and the military-industrial complex.

Only a couple of weeks ago, the United States appeared headed full-throttle toward a military attack on Syria. But the American people in large numbers looked up from their entertainment devices and awakened from their stupor long enough to recognize that the so-called “rebels” were actually terrorists who had battled U.S. troops and were raping, beheading and dismembering Christians; burning churches; beheading men and gunning down women whom they captured and believed supported the Syrian president; and slaughtering captured government soldiers and eating their hearts. They put unprecedented pressure on Congress to stop Obama and his warmongering, neocon toadies in their tracks.

A study by defense consultancy IHS Jane’s revealed that as many as 70 percent of the fighters aligned against Bashar Assad’s regime are terrorists or radical Islamists. Speaking at a discussion hosted by the globalist Council on Foreign Relations, Senator John McCain made the outrageous claim that only 30 percent were actually terrorists. He continues to rely on information provided by disgraced “researcher” Elizabeth O’Bagby.

If the makeup of the Free Syrian Army “rebels” wasn’t troubling enough, The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that an al-Qaida spinoff group called the ISIS is now fighting the so-called “moderate” rebels that Obama, McCain, etc., want to arm.

There is now a three-front war going on in Syria. The Journal reports that ISIS is attracting foreign jihadists who view the Syria war not as a means to overthrow the Assad regime but rather as a battleground for a Sunni holy war. They want to establish an Islamic state in Syria as step toward achieving a global Islamic state. Fully 7,000 to 10,000 members of the FSA are part of ISIS, and their numbers are growing. Also, al-Qaida militants from central command in Pakistan and Pakistani Taliban fighters have set up basis in Syria.

And even while Obama was signing papers authorizing the arming of al-Qaida terrorists, he was “issuing more executive actions” in an attempt to disarm Americans, though exactly what those actions entailed was not specified by Presidential mouthpiece Jay Carney. In other words, Obama is perfectly content with arming the enemies of America with military grade weapons, but he believes that Americans should not be trusted or able to defend themselves with weapons that only resemble military weapons. In fact, the Obama regime — through the moronic imbecile Vice President Joe Biden — has stated that Americans should only have a shotgun for defense. The regime believes that Americans should only have weapons capable of firing six or fewer rounds.

This is clear and convincing evidence that the Obama regime believes that America’s enemies have a greater right to self-defense than do Americans.

In April, the Obama regime signed on to the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty, which is supposed to ban the sale of arms to countries that export terror. For some reason, the mainstream media continue to ignore the hypocrisy of the regime’s support of the treaty even while it runs guns into Syria.

And the Obama regime is well-schooled in running guns to terrorists; as is the CIA, which ran guns to Afghanistan and Iraq back in the 1980s. The Syrian gunrunning operation began as soon as Moammar Gadhafi was overthrown. In fact, the whole cover-up of the Benghazi, Libya, 9/11 attack is predicated on concealing the gunrunning operation headed by CIA asset Ambassador Christopher Stevens, who along with three others was murdered during the attack.

Operation Fast and Furious, you may recall, was a gunrunning operation to Mexican narcoterrorists. The regime’s goal in encouraging border-State gun dealers to sell weapons to Mexican drug dealers was simply a pretext for restricting the 2nd Amendment rights of Americans by fomenting gun violence in Mexico with guns that could be traced back to the United States.

Terror has become the No. 1 export of the United States. This began before the inauguration of the Obama regime but has been growing exponentially under his watch. During the 2010 GOP Presidential debates, Ron Paul spoke of blowback (a concept even recognized by the CIA) created by U.S. policies in the Mideast. The pro-war, neocon-leaning Republican audience booed, hooted and guffawed at the concept that the United States had no business bombing foreign countries.

Now many of those same people are beginning to understand that Paul’s ideas that the United States should avoid inserting itself into internecine wars, guarding other countries’ borders better than our own and sending U.S. dollars to prop up dictators in other countries are good ones. Self-styled Republican talking heads, journalists and pundits are now adopting Paul’s philosophies without realizing it, or at least without admitting it.

But Americans must understand that war with Syria — and with it a likely war with Russia — is not yet off the table. It has only taken a hiatus as Obama and Kerry lick their wounds and attempt to regroup from the public humiliation Russian President Vladimir Putin inflicted on them. Even now, Kerry is establishing more “red lines” for Syria.

And warmongering chicken hawk Senator Lindsey Graham is increasingly agitating for war with Iran and promising to introduce a use of force authorization against that country, continuing to promulgate the lie that Iran — which is a signatory to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty — is developing nuclear weapons.

The psychopaths in Washington, D.C., have always used lies, obfuscation and doublethink to agitate Americans into war under the pretext of American patriotism. Wars benefit the global elites, the banksters and the military-industrial complex to the detriment of the people and their wealth and are made possible by fiat money printed willy-nilly. Without a central bank, wars would be far less frequent and would all end quickly. Central banks allow countries to make war on credit and run up debts that are never intended to be paid.

The people are growing to realize the regime in Washington, D.C., is lawless and criminal and operating in violation of the U.S. Constitution. The regime and its globalist masters recognize the American people are stirring, and they want them dependent and disarmed before the fiat house of cards collapses.

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Bob Livingston

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  • Devasahayam

    Given that his mentor Bill Ayers is known to be favourable to nearly anyone who hates America, is it any surprise that it is duplicated in 0bamanation?

  • Harold Olsen

    Obama’s gun policy is not hard to understand. Al-Qaida are Obama’s friends. The American people are Obama’s enemies. Sooner or later, the American people are going to get fed up with him violating our Constitutional rights. Even his supporters may eventually wake up and take off their blinders. When that happens, all hell will break loose. He doesn’t want us armed. He’s afraid of us and he has good reason to be. He’s a wannabe dictator and like all dictators, he wants to disarm the people so they are no threat to him. He is forgetting about American ingenuity, one of the things he is trying to stifle. Personally, I’d like to see him suffer the same fate as Mussolini.

    • Wellarmed

      Mr. Olsen, I feel that you give this President far more credit than he deserves. He is simply a tool much like many of the presidents that preceded him.

      I agree with you that he wishes us disarmed, but I would be remiss if I said that he was not following orders.

      Unlike Hitler, and Mussolini, Barrack Obama is simply a figure head. A mouth piece, or better yet a parrot sitting on the shoulders of his handlers.

      Most likely he will leave office in a few years and retire in $hitcago surrounded by a phalanx of armed SS agents, who are sworn to take a bullet for this worthless piece of existence. His library and office will be added to the nations tremendous and crushing national debt and this will all be in exchange for his silence about what he was ordered to do while in office.

      I am not implying that you should have no feelings of anger towards him, but by placing so much anger directed at him we lose sight of the forest through the trees. One thing I learned early on about street fighting is to control your anger, as he who gets mad loses sight of the objective which is to stay alive. I do my best not to make it personal.

      Happy Hunting

    • nc

      Harold, you may not have noticed but American citizens are using their 2nd amendment arms In ever increasing numbers to kill fellow citizens in ever increasing numbers! Do you have any idea if there is any thing that can be done to maybe, just maybe, decrease these occurrences or will we just have to live with them?
      Is this something that is just beyond the conservative pay grade???

      • Don 2

        I’ll help you out nc. When some whacko Islamist starts killing non-Muslims in a U.S. mall, and you happen to be one of those unlucky, unarmed, people on your knees with your empty hands in the air, begging for mercy, just give them your usual babble. They’re sure to not let you suffer too long.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        No, we haven’t noticed, NutCase.
        Where do you get your stats from? Mine say the rate of murder in the US has gone down:
        http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm

      • Harry_the_Horrible

        Hmmm. 99.98%+ of guns are not used in crime; the vast majority of legal gun owners are law abiding. Concealed carry license holders are more law abiding than cops. Guns are used far more often to defend against crimes than they are to commit murder.

        But there is a segment of the population that commits crimes FAR out of proportion to its size. Why don’t folks like you ever take a look at doing something about criminals instead of worrying about folks that might shoot back at them?

  • Guest

    Obama wants to give them an advantage. Terrorists as a rule go after the defenseless.

    Remember what Obama said….

    “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

    • Jim Read

      I do not like the man at all and think he should be taken out of office but he did not say that. Take the word Muslims and insert immigrants and it is more accurate. A racist he is and in his book Dreams from my father he admits it in his descriptions.

      • Sam

        Jim Read, obama did say that he would stand by the Muslims. I read it in his book, “Dreams From My Father”.

        • Jim Read

          Give me the chapter and page number so I can verify it isn’t what I read about him standing with the immigrants if political winds shift in an ugly direction. That is what I read. Now Chapter and Page please.

          • Sam

            I had the wrong book:
            In “Audacity of Hope” he writes: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” The quote comes from page 261 of the paperback edition of “The Audacity of Hope.

          • Jim Read

            Not a problem, glad you found the right one.

      • Guest

        In “Audacity of Hope” he writes: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” The quote comes from page 261 of the paperback edition of “The Audacity of Hope.

        • FreedomFighter

          Another point is this:The “Muslim Brotherhood” in Syria have punched Mother Russia in the nose, Pappa Puttin will hunt every single one of them down, like terminators on steroids Russian agents, maybe Chinese too, will quietly and effectively cut their noses off to keep a body count in jars at KGB headquarters — incase anyone wants a DNA test performed…
          Laus DeoSemper FI

        • Jim Read

          I knew it wasn’t Dreams From My Father. Thank you

  • FreedomFighter

    “Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.”—Mao Zedong
    Without guns the American people have NO Political Power.
    Without guns the Al-Qaida are impotent loudmouth savages, destined for long prison terms.
    Its about submission of the American people to a totalitarian regime, whom must first be disarmed to eliminate organized resistance. Its about Al-Qaida (Muslim Brotherhood) exerting political power thru force to initiate a change the NWO elite desire. Neither a good thing for America, Americans or the world.
    Laus DeoSemper FI

  • Ed Burns

    I think this part of the above article, is an accurate summation of our present international situation, and I just hope the American Citizens wake up before it is too late!

    “The psychopaths in Washington, D.C., have always used lies, obfuscation and doublethink to agitate Americans into war under the pretext of American patriotism. Wars benefit the global elites, the banksters and the military-industrial complex to the detriment of the people and their wealth and are made possible by fiat money printed willy-nilly. Without a central bank, wars would be far less frequent and would all end quickly. Central banks allow countries to make war on credit and run up debts that are never intended to be paid.

    The people are growing to realize the regime in Washington, D.C., is lawless and criminal and operating in violation of the U.S. Constitution. The regime and its globalist masters recognize the American people are stirring, and they want them dependent and disarmed before the fiat house of cards collapses.”

  • peter

    Obama needs to consider the following. He has been placed in a position by his masters to ensure the advance of the ‘ grand plan ‘ and is out of sheer fear, trying his utmost to do their bidding. He fears his masters much more than he fears the American people. He is attempting to live a double life, like a married man with a mistress. He is married to the elites and is making a very poor attempt at seducing the American people, at least those who are capable of thought. That is a very dangerous game and he needs to realize that for both the ‘ masters ‘ and the citizens of the USA, he will reach a point when he becomes dispensable, just like all dictators before him. Like Gadaffi and others he will be scorned, found out and his arrogance and narcissism will end up in dismay and disbelief. The greatest fraud of all time will meet his moses and he should realize that playing both sides of the fence is highly inadvisable. The difference between genius and lunatic is the same as the difference between integrity and dishonesty. He is neither genius nor honest, so he must therefore be something else and we are all soon going to find out exactly what that is. Many will be crestfallen when they discover the truth about their hero and idol. He is neither hero nor idol. Coward and liar are more apt descriptions of this impersonator. He should be arrested for impersonating a male species.

    • dan

      oh,he’s long past dispensible….Barry Soetoro aka harrison j bounel
      aka barrack husein obamma aka the pResident has already been paid in full for dancing with the devil….although living with Moocjelle is just a taste of what awaits him in eternity.

    • Larry

      “Like Gadaffi and others he will be scorned, found out and his arrogance and narcissism will end up in dismay and disbelief.”

      One day his fan base will appear like a deer in the headlights!

    • Wellarmed

      Bravo! It is truly amazing given the events that continue to play out in real time and through analysis of history that more American have not come to your interpretation of Obama’s true position in all of this.

      Excellent choice of words, and accurate to a tee. The larger question that exists and must be addressed is the method necessary to find and deal with his and past presidents (and elected officials) handlers.

      They weave and intricate web that does amazingly well at hiding the origin of the power base, and what their true objective(s) are.

      I found it interesting that Mr. transparency Barack Obama recently wished to make secret the guest list at the White House. I am certain that that list would be quite revealing and troubling to the American people once it became public.

  • Anonymous

    Dictator Obarry always says we should not blame all the Muslims for the actions of a few. Yet the first thing this guy wants to do is BLAME ALL GUN OWNERS FOR THE ACTIONS OF A FEW. He was once again crying his FAKE CROCODILE TEARS for the victims of the naval yard shooting. Saying that he now has seen 5 incidents (WHICH IS ONE PER YEAR) on his watch. With an average of 18 victims per incident. While totally ignoring the children he’s killed by drone strike, sanctions, bombings and abortions, which number 10’s of THOUSANDS PER YEAR….BUT IT JUST DOESN’T FIT HIS AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT THOSE DEATHS.

    • vicki

      “Yet the first thing this guy wants to do is BLAME ALL GUN OWNERS FOR THE ACTIONS OF A FEW”

      Not just a few. A VERY VERY few.

      ~300 MILLION Americans didn’t shoot ANYONE. EVER yet obama and others want to punish them by depriving them of their God Given, Constitutionally protected RIGHT to keep (possess) and bear (carry) arms.

      Stop PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the acts of a VERY Few (less than 0.01%)

      Stop it
      Stop it NOW.

      • Jim Read

        Vicki and Anonymous the only way this is going to be stopped is for the American people to talk control of Washington now, not in November 2014 or 2016 but NOW. Our founding fathers had the guts to act knowing they stood to loose everything they had and many of them did. We need some Veterans and Patriots with those same guts to step forward. I am ready to march are you?

        • Average_Joe56

          I dearly miss large mobs of discontent and disenfranchised citizens, armed with shovels, rakes and pitchforks …marching on the politicians who have made their lives miserable. I miss a good “Tar and Feathering”, “Stocks and Pillory” and an occasional public flogging and public ridicule….of politicians who have forgotten that they work for us.
          I still say that if we would hang just five of them on the front lawn of the White House, The rest of them would straighten up…real quick. A good start would be Pelosi, Reid, McCain, L. Graham and O…yeah!
          String’em up…it’ll give them perspective!

          “When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”

          • Jim Read

            Your attempt at humor is misguided, furthermore I am not looking to overthrow and start anew. Americans need to take control of Washington and put the Constitution BACK as the Law of the Land. Here is a big question for you. Why did you not include the rest of the Declaration of Independence? You forgot or chose to not use what many consider to be the most important statement, “it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security”. Everyone should also read the facts included in the Declaration and see how many surprisingly fit today.

          • Average_Joe56

            Sorry, that was not humor, nor was it meant to be.

            Unless and until we, the American people, start holding these miscreants responsible and accountable to us, the American people….this behavior will continue. Writing letters and generally being annoyed at them will not change the direction of the tide in DC. Voting them out, doesn’t seem to be an option either (voter fraud and low information voters).

            Nobody wants an armed revolution, but unfortunately, the powers that be will not give up their power over people willingly.

            “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
            John F. Kennedy

            I considered posting the entire Declaration of Independence, but decided not to do so for the sake of space. Besides, it is readily available in it’s entirety on the web….and most of us Liberty minded people already know and understand the document quite well.

            “There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.”
            Daniel Webster

          • Nadzieja Batki

            O and his minions will swear that they are following the Constitution, O will get all the Constitutional scholars to come along and they won’t be wrong. They know the Constitution backwards and forwards, how to manipulate and twist it according to their understanding. Except it will not be the same understanding that you have of it.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          At this point in history, anything anyone that opposes the Dems/Progs/Leftists or the RINOs will do is futile. Are you really willing to sacrifice your life and livelihood over human trash. We have elections to put them out, just make sure you have discernment whom you will trust and don’t believe in any that claim that they will save America.

      • TIME

        Dear Vicki,
        What’s even more out there, is that the Sandy Hook NON event was 100% totally fabricated, so too was the Boston event.
        As far as this ship yard event, the question still remains, why was this in the news a full 24 hours before the Main stream media stated it took place?
        People there is a concerted effort to dis arm the American people that is in full swing.
        The question you all need to ask is WHY?
        The answer I have been telling you all now for years, its so simple that if any of you do the most basic of research you can prove it to yourself.
        “”””””””WE don’t have a Government.””””””””
        The illusion is such that most American think we do, yet we don’t. we had a corporation, that was SOLD to the Bankers known as the Rothschilds, who also own the base of all mass media. so the end result is we are a nation in Captivity, that is about to be placed into BONDAGE.
        Will any of you allow it to fully unfold?
        Will you stand your ground at all cost?
        You need to think about this long and hard as the TIME is very short now.
        Its that simple.
        Peace and Love.

        • Deerinwater

          That is pure nonsense Time ~ I thought of you as a brighter person than that.~ ~ From this moment forward ~ you have lost all credibility with me. ~

          I’m disappointed in you my brother.

          Those were real events and you use the deaths of all those children and their teachers to advance your “debatable” convictions with straight out LIES?

          NON EVENT? ~Lucy, you got some “splaing” to do~

          Redeem yourself with support ~ if you can.

          I do believe this drinking from a tainted well has finally consumed you. You’ve got the “Dream , dreaming the Dreamer where it comes to illusions.

        • Wellarmed

          I am glad that your preaching remains consistent TIME. It is rare to see consistency these days. I am 100% in agreement with your line of thought, but I question if the Naval yard incident was a false flag event (Manchurian candidate) or simply a former sailor suffering from schizophrenia (another failure of the VA to properly treat a mental disorder).

          Regardless of the source of the attack (US government generated or mentally ill individual) the result will always be the same; a relentless push to disarm the American Citizenry. The government seems to be in complete control of the narrative, as the media only seems to move in lockstep with whatever the White house disseminates.

          From what I have seen over the course of the last 100+ years (basically since the formation of the Federal Reserve) there does seem to be a endless march toward totalitarian rule here in America, and sadly individuals such as Deer will most likely be deceased through natural causes before this plan truly comes into effect.

          It is a natural protection mechanism to deny that our own government [sic] would ever attempt to commit such atrocious events in order to direct the American people into a corner that ultimately leads to their own slaughter.

          It is the inconsistencies between the story and the facts of these “events” and the understanding that the pressure on the Americans psyche must be maintained in order to bring about the desired result (disarmament). This leads me to believe that these types of events are here to stay, as they continue to prove their effectiveness so far as not allowing the issue of the second amendment to be a settled one.

          For all of those that feel this is a simple matter of regaining the senate, think again. If the senate were to go in the R direction, does anyone think for a split second that legislation would be drafted to eliminate gun free zones? How about 50 state concealed carry reciprocity? If you said to yourself, not a chance then you would be spot on. This mission that is being executed requires victims, and no legislation will be drafted or passed that mitigates that necessity.

          Deer and many other can think this is simple paranoia, but you and I TIME completely understand where this is headed.

          Best of luck.

  • Jim Read

    Ok, folks, when are the rest of you going to wake up and realize we need a million Vets and Patriots to march into Washington and put our Constitution back as the Law of the Land? It is time! I wonder how long founding fathers waited, we have been under siege for at least as long as they complained about taxes. Taxes are only a small part of our problem.

    • ONLYJB1

      I’m with you Jim and my powder is always dry!

      • Jim Read

        I wish I had the ability to organize but I will admit I do not that is why I also say we need someone to step forward, I will be with them at the front.

        • NC

          Jim, have you never wondered why all of those chest pounding patriots(?) here who say they are ready to take their second amendment weapons and go to the streets to change the ” Marxist ” (?) government are STILL in their mother’s basements??????? They are BULLS**TERS!! THAT’S WHY!! THEIR MOTHERS AND/OR WIVES WON’T LET THEM OUT OF THE HOUSE AND THEY WOULDN’T MARCH IF THEY GOT OUT!
          THEY ARE PLD SHILLS! PAID BY THE LETTER!

          • Nadzieja Batki

            How come we haven’t seen you on the news behind O patting his backside or bootlicking? You are failing in your worshipping of O. You would think that would be one of your unfailing duties.

          • Don 2

            NC,
            I noticed in many of your postings a real obvious anger with independent conservative masculine men. You call them knuckle draggers, chest pounders, make references that their mothers/wives won’t let them out, etc., etc.

            Are you gay, or just one of those totally chickafied wussy girlymen?

          • Don 2

            “Jim, have you never wondered why all of those chest pounding patriots(?) here who say they are ready to take their second amendment weapons and go to the streets to change the “Marxist” (?) government are STILL in their mother’s basements???????”-

            NC, I’m sure that you wouldn’t make this stuff up, so please provide proof of your allegation!

            THEIR MOTHERS AND/OR WIVES WON’T LET THEM OUT OF THE HOUSE AND THEY WOULDN’T MARCH IF THEY GOT OUT!

            NC, I know that you wouldn’t make such a bird-brain comment if you couldn’t back it up, so please provide your source!

            THEY ARE PLD SHILLS! PAID BY THE LETTER!

            NC, I’m sure that you have the goods on this. I am anxious to see your documented proof a.s.a.p.

    • Sam

      That’s what I say. We need to organize groups to start marching every day in Washington and demand the impeachment of obama now. He must be removed.

  • ONLYJB1

    Oh, what a great leader we have. The first illegal alien to occupy the office of POTUS! We should be so proud! Washungton D.C is so eat up with corruption. I hope when we finally all awaken and band together to finally do something to clean the slate, it is not too little, too late!

    • Rick Griffin

      We will really be able to clean the slate with our pitchforks and slingshots as soon as Barry gets done with the second amendment ! His thugs have given up any pretext of truth and common sense by calling for a ban on assault weapons after a mass killing with a shotgun ( Joes favorite weapon) which is as no assault weapon ! And those who call for common sense laws have no common sense they just say that because it sounds good to them. People will die and their blood will be on the liberals hands . Do this country a favor and bust a liberal !

  • dan

    BLACK MUSLIM….helloe ? ….crickets….

  • unbridled

    THE POST ABOVE IS SPOT ON! WAKE UP AMERICA AND STAY FROSTY! THE CONSTITUTION IS THE LAW OF THIS LAND! THE DOO-DOO MAY VERY WELL BE HEADED OUR WAY VERY SOON NOW! WE THE PEOPLE HAVE NO FRIENDS IN WASHINGTON DC! BELIEVE IT!!!!!!

  • hippybiker

    “Today will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has complete gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future.” Adolph Hitler 1938

    We all know how that turned out, don’t we? Do you think this tin plated little homo in OUR White House is any different? I think not!

    • TIME

      Dear Hip,
      Oddly the very same people who placed Adolf Hitler in power are the very same people who placed Brack O’Bama in power as well as GWB, Bill Clinton and well every POTUS since 1871.
      How strange that humans can’t see the flaws in their thinking patterns?
      Oddly who was it that Hitler was ranting about?
      The very same cabal who not only placed in power, but the very same cabal who created the whole mess we face today.
      And yet the people of the world still follow these criminal followers of Lucifer.. Money is the sickness, Greed is the result, and POWER & CONTROL is the name of the game, sadly the mindless sheep still follow the same blood thirsty monsters TIME after TIME.
      Is that a mental illness or what?
      Peace and Love

      • brownstoneconstr

        this happens because man would rather trust man than trust god. since no one ( except my wife) is perfect ,man will continue to repeat history.

  • Al Chemist

    Obama will continue to aid the enemies (and disarm the LEGAL citizens) of this former great Republic as long as he occupies the WH and has the permission (if not downright participation) of a large fraction of liberal/progressive/commie/democrats who live here. It is worth pointing out that there are not a lot of Republicans who are willing to actively oppose him. 2014!

  • Al Chemist

    Obama will continue to aid the enemies (and disarm the LEGAL citizens) of this former great Republic as long as he occupies the WH and has the permission (if not downright participation) of a large fraction of liberal/progressive/commie/democrats who live here. It is worth pointing out that there are not a lot of Republicans who are willing to actively oppose him. 2014!

  • Ron r

    Great job Obama , the only thing you did wrong was getting exposed by the geniuses on this site.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      If O wasn’t doing anything wrong he would not need to be exposed by the geniuses on this site. His good work would stand on its own merit. You also give away how many things O is doing wrong by all the whitewashing you are doing.

      • Ron r

        Go play!!

  • brownstoneconstr

    like i said last week. nobody in d.c has the balls to start an impeachment against obama. where’s george washington when we need him.

    • Deerinwater

      It’s not balls, they lack but sufficient evidence to launch charges that can endure due process,

      • brownstoneconstr

        so obama can change the laws anytime he wants for his own personal gain . what a country.

        • Deerinwater

          What a job~!

        • Deerinwater

          The truth ~ is not what you want to hear ~ I can appreciate that, but I can’t find the need to pander to your illusion or waste the time entertaining it.

          • Average_Joe56

            Yet, you just did.

      • denise0513

        The House has evidence but the democrats in the Senate will protect their leader at all costs.

      • wandamurline

        Read the Constitution…..giving weapons to our enemies is TREASON.

    • denise0513

      Some in D.C. do have the balls. What they don’t have is enough senators (jury) willing to truly hear the evidence and do what is right in finding him guilty as charged. They know he is guilty but will protect him rather than protect the country!

      • wandamurline

        And we won’t until we get constitutional conservatives in place of the Marxists progressive socialists called Democraps in the Senate. If we can take the Senate in 2014 and keep the majority in the House, then we will have a chance to file impeachment and treason charges against “the one”. So, if you want to make a difference, start now to let people know the truth and how their freedoms are in jeopardy….let’s get more people voting for the Conservatives….we must outnumber the freebie takers to make this happen cause it is hard to vote against someone who gives you freebies….of course, the useful idiots do not realize that as soon as they are of no further use, they will be discarded and freebies are only a memory.

  • KG

    In his usually understated tone, Bob reveals his utter lack of knowledge of American History as well as lying about our President’s role in foreign affairs.

    It’s a shame too, because Bob probably remembers when the CIA overthrew a Democratically elected leader in Iran. Ever since that utterly inept use of ‘hard’ foreign policy under the Eisenhower administration America has been suffering in that sand-covered death trap known as the Middle East.

    The so-called “Gun Grabbers” are mythical beings – sorta like Unicorns. Every piece of legislation that was proposed after Sandy Hook was destroyed by Republican/Conservatives. And not a single piece of that legislation was going to ‘grab anything’ other than the Felons and Parolees that illegally buy and sell weapons at gun shows.

    Operation ‘Fast and Furious’ was an operation left over from the Bush administration. It was exactly like Kennedy with Eisenhower ‘Bay of Pigs” operation. Kennedy came in office completely unaware of the planned operation other than what the CIA would tell him. We may never know for certain what kind of Power Point demonstration the CIA used to convince the President to go along with a bungled Republican sponsored operation, or to continue in Afghanistan. Or why the CIA decided to assassinate Kennedy. May be because the central figure in American history since 9/11 IS the CIA!!!

    Every so-called ‘Islamic terror organization’ that Bob mentions were created, sponsored, supported, supplied and organized by the CIA. The majority of the CIA is employed by either Methodists or Mormons.

    • Deerinwater

      Not to ignore the fact that next to marketing oil and heroin, the biggest industry in the middle-east is armed conflict followed by “Rugs”.

      • ken clute

        deerinwater and KG, before you open your piehole and spout known fallacies with your arguements regarding GW and fast and furious you need to learn some facts! Bush did not start F & F obama and holder did, holder even admitted it!! GW started and ENDED “operation wide receiver” which was carried out with the knowledge of the Mexican government. F & F was not known by the Mexican government.

        http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2012/06/20/on_fast__furious_blame_bush_is_a_lie

        There are many other sources for this information, so don’t come back here saying “well diane feinsten said it so it’s true” because she has less credibility than you guys do! I know it’s getting hot here, so have another glass of kool-aid.

    • wandamurline

      Please stop drinking the koolaide that Obama is dishing out, it numbs the thinking brain cells. If you think what the Marxists wanted with gun control was to stop the felons and parolees…think again….the lawless will always have weapons. I think Benjamin Franklin said it best and it really applies now….”Those who pound their guns to plows….will plow for those who do not.”

      • Deerinwater

        Matching 5 to 1 in military spending by the US to all other nations ~ suggest ~ that is not a pending concern for the US.

    • Don 2

      Operation ‘Fast and Furious’ was an operation left over from the Bush administration.’

      That’s a pretty funny bald face lie KG.

      • JeffH

        …and an easy to prove bald faced lie at that!

      • Vis Fac

        Once again Marxist madness from the resident communist who I refer to as KEFT.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

  • http://batman-news.com Jim B

    The POTUS doesn’t try to hid it. In fact he flaunts it… laws, even Obama laws, can be broken, dismissed, selectively enforced. No! this is not authorized via the Constitution, or the oath he (they all) took to uphold it, but it is a law, and in Obama’s mind can be broken. Just ask Holder, he’ll tell you!

    • Deerinwater

      Well, ~ It does seems that way, ~ doesn’t it? ~ Maybe that attitude comes with dealing with House Republican’s that up and decides, that the Federal government no longer needs to or is required to pay it’s bills and goes about attempting to de-fund the government over which Obama was elected to administer? ~ This has been the strategy the GOP has taken in their attempt to offer 44 opposition to any and all efforts to lead the nation. ~ When did we ever hear complaints of W’s excessive spending of government and military while while completely ignoring national infrastructure? In his “Tax less and spend More” approach to assuring his bid for a 2nd term ~ where by leaving any following administration with a mailbox full of pink invoices, ~ reading ; “Intent to Cancel” , “To avoid service interruption” , ” Intent to levee” ” Please Submit to avoid Forfeiture” ` ~ i think I seen a yardman with a shovel in hand, repossessing a bed of Periwinkles by the Tennis count before W manage to pack up and head for Crawford.

      This process of one administration half baked bad idea(s) bleeding over into the next administration to address and accept the responsibility for, might work well for some partisan parties but I’m finding it getting rather tiresome. ~ Once the rule of law has been ignore , monsters are created that defy the ability to control ! I’m left to believe that GITMO will have no end and to be forever be a lawless Black Hole, superseding all understanding of law and human rights

      There were many loose ends left over from W Bush administration to address beside just “Fast & Furious” I’m surprised W managed to keep the White House lawn mowed and the Lights on. While it was under H Bush administration that the seeds of NAFT were first planted where then Clinton comes along and stepped in it and tracks it in the House. ~ What a debacle for most American’s that has been. Without adequate regulation, trade imbalances were quick to follow.

      ” How Many Jobs have Been Lost in 2008? 2008 job losses went to 500,000, the most since 1945. That figure was released by the U.S. Labor Dept on January 9, 2009. The unemployment rate is likely to go higher than the 1993″

      ” How Many Jobs have Been Outsourced? Unfortunately, no one knows how many jobs have been outsourced outside of the United States. Companies are not required to disclose this information so they never talk about it.”

      “The Offshore Outsourcing of American Jobs: A Greater Threat Than Terrorism”

      http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-offshore-outsourcing-of-american-jobs-a-greater-threat-than-terrorism/18725

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Deer says — “dealing with House Republican’s that up and decides, that the Federal government no longer needs to or is required to pay it’s bills and goes about attempting to de-fund the government over which Obama was elected to administer?”.
        Suppose, Deer, that you gave a Credit Card to your child who then proceeded to max it out and apply for more credit. What would you do?

        • JeffH

          DaveH, notice how everyone piles on the House Republicans but can’t see how, despite what the House sends to the Senate, how the incompetent Harry Reid does absolutly the nothing.

          Reid, as majority leader in the Senate, controls the floor schedule – deciding which bills will come to the floor and when.
          When asked if he might bring any of the House-passed bills to the floor, Reid chuckled and said “some time is a long time, I guess.” http://cnsnews.com/news/article/reid-laughs-prospect-bringing-gop-bills-votes-senate#sthash.XIm22O1T.dpuf

          • JeffH

            Ignoramus Dave47D, why don’t you tell all of us how Reid can block practically every bill the House sends to the Senate and still blame the House GOP as the party of “no”?

            Harry Reid has failed to take up almost all of the House GOP job creation measures, failed to present a budget, and failed to put forward a pro-growth plan to get Americans back to work.

            Why don’t you explain how the House GOP can be blamed for shutting the government down with the latest budget continuing resolution, which includes defunding Obamacare, when Reid has stated publicly that it won’t reach the Senate floor and is “dead on arrival” and that Obama has stated there will be no negotiations and threatened to VETO any bill that includes defunding the ACA despite the fact that an overwhelming majority of Americans have stated in interviews, polls and through petitions that they do not want nor support the ACA?

            Seems pretty obvious that the establishment RINO’s, Dem’s and Obama are oblivious to those facts and are willing to make Obamacare the face of the regressive party, having priority over the wishes of the American people and funding the government.

            It’s the progressive Dem’s and RINO’s along with Obama that are willing to shut the government down and make Obamacare their baby to live with and no one else’s.

            I’m not supporting or excusing the GOP, I’m just sayin’…a duck is a duck!

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        If you’re worried about jobs being outsourced, Deer, maybe you should start voting for much less meddlesome Government so people can trade freely and do what they do best without carrying around a 500-lb elephant on their backs.
        http://www.scribd.com/doc/144210931/Wayne-Crews-Ten-Thousand-Commandments-An-Annual-Snapshot-of-the-Federal-Regulatory-State-2013

        • Deerinwater

          Well David , Ron Paul was not an option or I would.

          • Average_Joe56

            Gary Johnson was an option…or did you miss that?
            Having an R or D in front of their names doesn’t make them Conservative or Liberal…it simply gives them a voter base to manipulate and nothing more. Time to release yourself from the two party paradigm.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Neither the Democrat Leaders, nor the Republican Leaders, wanted Ron Paul because Free Markets are anathema to Crony Capitalists and their Crony Politicians.

        • Vis Fac

          Instead of being patriotic as far as their wallets if might be time to support our DOMESTIC economy instead of a foreign economy and buy American products.

          I always hear about outsourcing and the loss of manufacturing jobs by the people who continually purchase foreign goods.

          People who buy Asian knockoffs don’t realize that their jobs are in peril when they buy competitive products produced overseas and imported.

          As a former manufacturer of industrial equipment I know a thing or two regarding business. When people buy imported cheap knockoffs it diverts income for domestic manufacturers overseas. In order to remain solvent and competitive domestic manufacturers seek cheaper labor for we all know Americans want more for their labor yet refuse to pay more for domestically produced products.

          Liberals see small business as cash cows ready to tax into oblivion not realizing they exist on a very small profit margin. They can’t raise their prices so they either decrease size outsource or quit working for nothing and shut down.

          Liberals NEVER consider ANY consequences for THEIR actions only bellyache that there isn’t more to tax or regulate.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Buying American might be a nice sentiment, Force, but the bottom line is that it would further spoil our own companies (just as welfare spoils welfare recipients) and reduce people’s standards of living.
            There is only one entity responsible for our economic malaise and that is meddlesome Big Government who are spending 40% of our GDP.
            Free Trade (real Free Trade, not the Government kind) would boost all of our standards of living as a result of the division of labor.
            If Protectionism was a good thing, each state would protect its companies, and each city, etc. But it isn’t a good thing.
            Imagine, for instance, how it would be if your own city declared that you couldn’t buy any foreign goods. Do you think you would benefit from that?
            http://archive.mises.org/21207/trade-creates-wealth-protectionism-destroys-it/

          • Vis Fac

            I agree to a point however charity begins at home and we MUST support our domestic industrial infrastructure if we are to survive.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            No, Force. If we want to survive we MUST get Government out of our marketplaces so that people can once again trade Freely among each other, and spend their own money on products of their own choice.

          • Vis Fac

            Let me ask you this: When was the last time you saw an Asian driving an American Auto? Asians buy from other Asians but expect us to buy from them.

            Asians as are the Russians are notorious for copying and selling to the open market they think nothing of pilfering technology and paying no royalties (I speak from experience). Japan lost WWII because they were cut off from western technology. Their fighting spirit was the only thing that kept them going.

            If we continually send money to overseas bu purchasing Asian goods which never returns. Asians especially Japan only buys what is necessary and when a hint of a problem arises (regarding food stuffs) importation is immediately suspended. Japan and China export to us yet do not buy from us. If there were equity I would agree but there is no equity.

            The consumer is the ultimate key for our economic recovery If we continue to support a foreign country’s economy we will and are going broke.

            Our technology and products are fine to copy yet not good enough for the American consumer.

            Apparently you like buying Asian pilfered technology.
            Have you ever wondered why Asian autos are easy to finance with zero down? They can afford to do so because they have little or no R&D costs to pass on to the consumer so what they have is pure profit.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            If a country prohibits their citizens from buying foreign, or at least discourages those action, they are hurting their own citizens more than anybody else.
            To imitate their mistaken actions would only be to hurt ourselves. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
            Force says — “Apparently you like buying Asian pilfered technology. Have you ever wondered why Asian autos are easy to finance with zero down?”.
            How do you explain that their cars can be shipped all the way across the Pacific, and still underprice as well as outperform American-made cars?
            You can support American Big Government and their Crony Unionists all you want, Force, but I will buy the best products at the cheapest prices.

          • Vis Fac

            Since when have I ever advocated support for “Corporate America or stockholders? I have always advocated support for American Industry “Corporate America is a moniker placed on the 1% including bankers by liberal clowns who don’t know the difference between their anuses and their mouths.

            Liberals see any corporation as big business and equate same to the 1%. Liberals have a tendency to generalize so they needn’t explain.

            As a small business owner 100 employees or fewer I incorporated for tax purposes and to avoid personal liability. We paid our fair share in taxes and fees and were taxed and regulated to the point of closing our doors. You see liberals view any business as a cash cow existing only to be taxed and regulated.

            Liberals don’t understand that if there are thousands of employee wages to tax they would be miles ahead than when they tax small business they don’t have economic growth to hire additional employees thus garner more income tax or run the risk of the business closing down and LOSING income tax from the corporation and hundreds of employees. Economics was never the strong suit of the liberal.

            Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15. —
            Ronald Reagan

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

  • angelwannbe

    _keep your friends close, your enemies closer_then of course you stifle free speech, by peppering it with political correctness, NSA spying which herds the people into small manageable groups, add socialized medicine, then you disarm Americans,_ what better way to overthrow the rest of the Country.

    With the DC bought and paid for news media, and progressive shills now on the payroll, the manipulation continues. This is what happens when Americans remain ignorant of the facts, which is, as long as we continue to be under the bankruptcy, the Constitution will remain suspended__result is, a Government gone mad!

    • NC

      Angelwannabe, Mr. Livingston, in his last sentence has predicted the fall of the “fiat house of cards'”(present “regime(?)”). Mr. Livingston has been predicting this for 44 years in his news letters and people like you parrot it to the rest of the sheep. WITH THE SAME RESULTS! IT NEVER NEVER HAPPENS!! THE ILLEGAL (?) “CONSPIRACIES” HE ALLEGES TO “PROVE(?) ” HIS POINT ARE NEVER NEVER PROSECUTED!! With his record as to “political advice” would you take health advice from this man?? Ultra conservatives believe in his message but so did the Unibomber believe in his!!

      • angelwannabe

        NB, I believe your posting under someone else’s name, the nadz that I know, isn’t progressive!

        • NC

          Angel, I have only one name! I have never posted anywhere under more than one name! I have nothing to hide!’
          BTW, I am not paid by anyone to post here or ANYWHERE! But with the paranoid mindset of you and the other believers who meet here I can truly understand why you would SUSPECT that I am part of some plot to undermine the libertarian movement!
          I AM JUST TRYING TO EDUCATE YOU PEOPLE TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND WE MADE IT WITH PROGRESSIVE POLICIES! NAME ONE TRUE ULTRA CONSERVATIVE PRESIDENT WE HAVE HAD SINCE WE STARTED OUR MARCH TO THE TOP IN THE 1940s!

          • angelwannabe

            Your wasting your time with me__but thanks!

          • nc

            angel. education is always a waste of time for you knuckle draggers! Nothing new since the 18th century!!!

          • JeffH

            It’s easy to see that learning wasn’t one of your strong subjects too.

          • nc

            JeffH. you talk about LEARNING and you buy into and support the false flag /conspiracy paranoia of PLD?? Tell me the last time any of that s**t has been proved and it started in 1913!!!!!!! I’M WAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            HOW MUCH ” HEALTH ADVICE” DO YOU BUY FROM MR. BOB IN A YEAR??? HAD YOUR SHOTS YET?????

          • angelwannabe

            ….and I guess your on here spreading your shyte, to save us all from certain death, aren’t ya, oh great one__E gads!….Man you really swallowed that kewlaid, hook, line and sinker!_

            as a side note__Why are you waiting for answers, go find them yourself, no ones your keeper, except YOU!__ The answers are ALL hidden in plain site, WARNING_ it may require some work!

          • JeffH

            nc, you are a shining example of why “you can’t fix stupid”
            FYI, why would I buy health advice from Bob when he provvides it for free here?

          • Vis Fac

            Well at least we live debt free.You “progressives” are always wanting to fix what isn’t broken. You do this because you have nothing positive to contribute yet want a free ride.

            I would like a free ride too but being a realist knew that wasn’t going to happen so I secured my own future. You still want others to provide for yours.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • angelwannabe

            nc, its a waste of time for you too, when the elites are done using you, who will feed and clothe you then?_-Besides I’d rather be a knuckle dragger than azz kisser!__

          • Don 2

            nc is an aspiring Cindy Sheehan/Sandra Fluke.

          • S.C.Murf

            nc once again I say, the billionaire just the other day came out and thanked the fed reserve for continuing the fiat money printing cause it was making himself and all the other billionaire’s richer. They own all of the resources that the stock market is based on. Now you will let me know if I’m talking to fast for you to comprehend and I’ll S-L-O-W D-O-W-N and give you TIME to make that P-O-P-P-I-N-G S-O-U-N-D. The writing is on the walls try reading it would you?

            up the hill
            airborne

          • angelwannabe

            nc_I’m not easily amused, but I have to give you Libbies credit where credit is due,; your good on bait and switch tactics, spreading disinfo, and personal attacks__but the one thing you guys could excel on, but really suck at, is providing facts! Shame too_with some facts ya might even be credible__nah…

          • angelwannabe

            Ok, your baiting me, I’ll bite___You made this country great by progressive policy? LMAO!!___The only thing progress ism has done, is divide us into special interest voting blocks, destroy capitalism and put more people on the GUV’T dole than just about anytime in history! and then claim you “Did Good”!__lol, that’s funny as hell!

          • NC

            angelwannabee, progressives are destroying capitalism??? I just read recently that US businesses have more cash reserves on hand than they have had in the history of our country! How is that for the destruction of capitalism???? Wall Street loves the Democrats! I have heard it for years!! Want to see why??? Go to “bulls, bears, donkeys and elephants” site and see how the stock market has done under DEmocrats as opposed to the Repugnuts!! Got the guts to go look??? Let me know what you find!!!

          • Vis Fac

            If you continue to be fooled by the stock market you are more stupid than I thought. The Capitalists you refer to are the 1% that donated to ODUMBO’s Campaign so he is beholding to them. The stock market is held up by fiat paper that goes into the 1%’s bank accounts.

            True capitalism is small business you know the ones that pay YOUR wages pay for the programs (welfare food stamps and entitlement YOU take advantage of.

            If you wish to know the real shape of our economy notice all the vacant shops at strip malls or the empty industrial complexes. Better yet ask a shop owner how the economy is you’ll get an earful.

            You had best reevaluate your thesis on capitalism for you are dead wrong. When was the last time a poor person offered you a job?

            When was the last time you had multiple job offers and had a choice? When was t possible to live on one paycheck and NOT have to work three jobs to make ends meet? Liberal economics never work for they always manage to run out of other people’s money.

            One last question which of your ensuing generations (assuming you can procreate) will be able to say we paid off the the national debt? Which year will that be 2125? You are desperately in need of a reality check!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • angelwannabe

            Can you say “Numbers Manipulation” little fella?_-Sides i don’t do anything Liberal, I’m afraid of cooties!

          • angelwannabe

            ….50 years under Demon-crats control to bankrupt Detroit, yeah, good job, your handlers should be proud as h*ll with that one, I’ll bet they’re laughing all the way to the bank with other peoples money….huh

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            NutCase is trying to educate us. In what, NutCase — Extreme ignorance?

          • Nadzieja Batki

            You must be rip van winkle and have you had a good sleep, NC?

        • JeffH

          angelwannabe, it’s just a Disqus glich…happens often.

          • angelwannabe

            yeah_I thought it had to be__his comment originally came under nadz’s name__Good to see ya JeffH_- How goes it?

          • JeffH

            Not bad…had a chunk of melanoma cut off of my left arm last week so I’m in the midst of seeing dermatologists, oncologists and surgeons for the next couple of weeks. The basic diagnosis is good but until the surgeon does a broad tissue removal and a lymph node check I’m at their mercy…overall, all is well.
            How you been?

          • angelwannabe

            Great!, finally had my second surgery in April after a bout with diverticulitis last October__Been awhile since I felt this good, so I’m good to go!__Wishing you luck & prayers for all procedures__take care

          • JeffH

            angelwannabe, you’re often in my thoughts too…best of health and longevity to ya!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          AngelwannabeNo, I am not a Progressive, God Forbid that I would ever become one.

          • angelwannabe

            Nadz, no I knew that__ must have been some kind glitch in the blog, b/c one of nc posts came up under your name, I originally thought someone was impersonating you and that’s the reason I typed, what i did.

      • angelwannabe

        The reason the house of cards has never fallen is because, they’re enough progressives in place to continue to artificially manipulate numbers and shore everything up…..and as to why, they’re never prosecuted, how can you prosecute those who create they’re own laws, and then manipulate or blackmail all three branches of what used to be our Government, into following it?

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        You’ve been reading Bob’s newsletters for 44 years, NutCase?

        • Vis Fac

          As I often say “Facts to a liberal are those that are pulled out of thin air and or provided by lame stream media to swathe their ineptness on all things rational. Liberal one dimensional idiot-ology dictates they make things up as they go so they can blame others!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

    • Vis Fac

      This is what happens when Government is in charge of education. In stead of an education our children receive liberal one dimensional indoctrination allowing for the production of the functionally illiterate dependent on the government.

      Those running the non-education indoctrination system that passes for education have simply lost whatever minds they once possessed; and their ridiculous, mind-numbed zero-tolerance policies are causing kids and parents all manner of hardship and even resulting in criminal
      records for victimless non-crimes. The State Governments
      of New York and California have long ago divested themselves of common sense
      and restraint.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • angelwannabe

        …and the education system is going to get even worse with “Common Core”, (IF its allowed to stand, as i understand, there are plenty high ranking people, fighting this already at the helm) Although I haven’t looked into yet, rumor has it, common core, as one of the curriculum changes, they won’t be teaching children how to write in cursive, (maybe Bob has more on this)__The masters are pretty smart because with that in place, along with the kids not writing in cursive, they won’t be reading in cursive either, which, will null and void the reading of historical documents in future generations. Can anyone say agenda?

  • mark

    “The Syrian civil war is a war manufactured by the United States — as was the Libyan civil war” This just shows how little Mr. Livingston knows about the politics of the Middle East. Best to stick with domestic libertarian issues, Bob. These kinds of comment are embarrassing although they are consistent with your overall conspiratorial viewpoint so popular on this site.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Feel free, mark, to dispute specific claims by Bob. And please, break the Liberal Progressive mold and actually back up your claims with some evidence.
      http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/50626

      • Average_Joe56

        Don’t hold your breath for either of those suggestions ever happening.

      • mark

        Why does anyone need to provide evidence to debunk an argument that has zero documentation and evidence? The rebellions against Assad and Gaddafi, unpopular despots had largely domestic origins. Millions of Libyans and Syrians hated them and tens of thousands took up arms against them following the spark of the Arab Spring in Tunisia. Resistance against both has been ongoing for decades. That outside forces have intervened in both of these civil wars is evident and admitted but to surmise from that that these entire revolutions were U.S.-made totally negates the agency of the rebel combatants. It is exactly like saying the American Revolution was manufactured in Bourbon France because that nation supplied most of the weaponry and finance for the Revolution. The Americans were just puppets of the French and their ongoing struggle with Britain. You would be laughed out of any history class for drawing such a ludicrous and reductionist conclusion. This is why Mr. Livingston does not teach Arab History or Arab studies at a university or study center because to him the Arabs don’t matter, they are just pawns of Washington in his giant, unsubstantiated conspiracy theory that totally ignores Arab history, Arab politics, Arab ideology and the history of Libya and Syria. Running guns to a revolution does not make you the major player in it as the French discovered in 1783. Below are a couple of primers on these issues, that Mr. Livingston has obviously never read. But he has no need to as he already has his ready-made theory for everything that occurs in the world: the U.S. government is the culprit. How convenient. No doubt this recent terrorist attack on the Kenyan Mall was engineered by Obama. This will be tomorrow’s lead article on the Libertarian Onion called PLD.

        http://www.amazon.com/Syrian-Rebellion-Fouad-Ajami/dp/0817915044/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1379950600&sr=1-3&keywords=syrian+civil+war

        http://www.amazon.com/Libya-Rise-Qaddafi-Alison-Pargeter/dp/0300139322/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1379950754&sr=1-6&keywords=Gaddafi+and+the+Libyan+Revolution

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          What statement of Bob’s were you disputing, mark?
          I said — “dispute specific claims by Bob”.
          Do you know what specific means?
          Please supply the quote from Bob, and then make your case, backed up by some real evidence not links to two books that were published before the Benghazi attacks.

      • Vis Fac

        Facts to a liberal are those that are pulled out of thin air and or provided by lame stream media to swathe their ineptness on all things rational. Liberal one dimensional idiot-ology dictates they make things up as they go so they can blame others
        for their failures and nothing is ever ODUMBO’s or the DUMBOCRITES fault.

        So whenever they have trouble defending and/or nothing to substantiate their positions they simply fall back on the FBABO (Federal Board for Assigning Blaming to Others) or citing lame stream media’s partial/fabricated truths and prevarications; then all their liberal inadequacies are soon considered ancient history becoming non issues and then quickly forgotten

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • Vis Fac

      Your comment shows the result of liberal one dimensional idiot-ology perpetrated by their indoctrination camps masquerading as public schools where you were programmed to accept anything liberal and subjective. You blindly without pause believe what you are told by your programmers. You haven’t the capacity to be objective merely subjective You are the deer in the headlights frozen and easy prey of liberal dogma.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • JeffH

      What Do You Call A War Run by Barack Obama and John Kerry?

      Bill Gertz of the Washington Times and Washington Free Beacon has apparently polled the troops on what they would call their latest mission in the Middle East.

      “Operation Enduring ClusterF**k”!

  • Nadzieja Batki

    FB commentor David Ericson, your fiction is not selling so you come here to shore up your work.. There are not enough Dems/Progs/Leftists on this site to support you monetarily.

    • wandamurline

      And thank God for that.

    • Average_Joe56

      I chose to address Dave directly…let’s see if he has any substance….
      Judging from his post…I believe that this our liberal hack “DAVE”…he can’t get any up votes down here…so he moved to where he can’t get any votes at all….no votes are better than negative votes…to a liberal….They hate being wrong…so often.
      (my FB name is Bud Tuggly)

      • Deerinwater

        HA! ~ what a bunch of Whoey ! ~ Up , down ?~ what are we doing here Time? ~ appealing to the lowest common denominator with political commentary to secure “votes”?

        Dave is behind enemy lines , surrounded 20 to 1 and you think that he is concerned about votes?

        If Dave, ~ Progressive Republican or myself were concern with such things as up votes ~ we would preach to the choir like you do.

        As far as Down votes? ~ I should have gave you a down vote for attempting to deny Sandy Hook even happened. ! ~ but why bother? ~ To deny that the crime ever happened ~ is one hell of a feeble way to support your position on gun laws.

        There are people that would deny the Nazis killed Jews, and anyone else that failed to fit inside their understand of being more “useful alive than dead” by the hundreds of thousands , only to defend their convictions.

        You are applying this same strategy ~ and you will fail for one reason ~~ you are wrong, and you thinking is flawed.

        • Average_Joe56

          Still haven’t adjusted the meds, I see.

          “Dave is behind enemy lines , surrounded 20 to 1 ”

          …and he just keeps getting shot down…by his own choice. ( an awful lot like you do).

          “As far as Down votes? ~ I should have gave you a down vote for attempting to deny Sandy Hook even happened.”

          Do you make this stuff up as you go? I have never said that Sandy Hook “never happened”. I may have suggested that the MSM was feeding us BS about the particulars of the event or that there is more than meets the eye, concerning those events.. but not once have I denied that “something” happened.
          As for the rest of your diatribe, that is all that it is…diatribe.
          Adjust the meds.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Forgive him, Joe, for he cannot see with those headlights shining in his eyes.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            So you are David Erickson, ScifiDave?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            That would be ignorant, but then so would it be to take your word for anything, Shill Dave.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Poor widdo Davey. Can’t get any positive attention, so he desperately seeks negative.

          • JeffH

            Ignoramus Dave47D says “Why would I post at both places and give psychos that post here like blunt tool, Jeffrey Shootem up bang bang and nutty Alondra access to me and my family?”

            Hmmmm, isn’t that what the ignorant liberals and progressives do…literally go on the attack once they get any info on their enemies”?

            You’re not important enough for most of us to even give a rats arse about you Ignoramus Dave47D…let alone your family should worry.

            The biggest threat on your families survival comes from you, the Obama protector, enabler and apologist, ya dummy.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            That is something only Leftists like yourself would do, no others on this site would stoop to such evil.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Where did you get the idea that Shill Dave is a Progressive Republican, Deer?

          • Average_Joe56

            He’s a follower of Al Gore….Al Gore didn’t invent the internet…but he did “make up” global warming.
            Whatever folks like Deer don’t actually know…they make up.

          • Deerinwater

            I never did, ~ Have you not yet met Progressive Republican ?

          • Average_Joe56

            Yes, they are called RINO’s

          • Vis Fac

            I have seen many Progressive Republicans they are the ones who want to make real progress and getting people to be more responsible so the nation can grow more prosperous and NOT dependent on Big Government as OPPOSED to LIBERAL Progressiveness where we depart from reality and regress into increased dependency on big government, waste tax dollars on redundant and inane programs for the irresponsible, indolent and lethargic people and live of other’s dime. That progressiveness? OK liberals’ idea of being progressive is anything but!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • Vis Fac

          I see you garner your fair share of down votes and probably proud of that accomplishment. AS you claim Average Joe’s comments wrong and thinking flawed I will add my own take on Sandyhook and all the other mass murders.

          First let me preface this with a little bit of liberal conspiracy theory. Shortly after the attacks on the Twin Towers and Pentagon on 9/11/2011 it didn’t take a farting spell for you liberals to come out with numerous conspiracy theories blaming Bush so he could start a war.

          When I look examine all the Gun Control Rhetoric emanating from ODUMBO and the left, coupled with your inane reasons for so called “safe gun free Zones” I cannot help but believe that these are merely set ups for furthering your agenda.

          First lets examine the fact that all these recent mass shootings occurred rather close together. Second lets examine the fact that most were impressionable young liberals who lived in single parent house holds. Third Lets examine the fact that all have mental problems and were being treated for mental illness.

          Given the above information it is my belief that these assailants in all probability had “conditioned” by ODUMBO’s minions to act as Manchurian Candidates to further gun control against the law abiding and eliminate our Second Amendment rights.

          The first third fourth and fifth have been nullified by executive order. Our Second Amendment has been under attack since Clinton.

          Never mind that inanimate objects cannot act on their own and never mind that an infinitesimally small ratio of people have been victims of mass murder So it stands to reason if you cannot legally abolish guns you prey on the functionally illiterate and stupid to advance ODUMBO’s the liberal and your agenda.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

      • TIME

        Dear Joe,
        I know that this video will be an aid you can use, as you are with eyes open.
        For anyone else who dare open your eyes, ** Please do watch it.
        Please note that ~~ **This also can be found on Steve Quayle’s sight in its the first video, the second one is really good as well.
        { MESSAGE TO THE VOTTING CATTLE, } by, Larken Rose
        under: freiwilligfrei.de
        If your just one more of the Goym, then this will have little to no effect on you.
        But for you that question all of what you see that seems to be crazy, or that you seek answers,
        Please spend the 20 minutes this takes. You will be glad you did.
        Peace and Love,

        • Average_Joe56

          Your link went to the home page, rather than the video.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5FNDRgPOLs
          Larken Rose (I am a subscriber) video.
          BTW, I voted Libertarian.

        • http://www.rt.com Alondra

          This is only a clip from the AGENDA: Grinding America Down (6:45) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9yYlytGy85A

          In the description of this Video you will find the links about the Communist subversion of the USA. Follow them too and you will find out more about the Leftists’ demonic AGENDA for America which they applied and are finishing to EXECUTE.

          If you want to know the complete TRUTH, you MUST to watch this in full (1:31:45). Now it’s for free.
          AGENDA: Grinding America Down http://vimeo.com/63749370

          But before you’ll watch the documentary, print out the 45 communist goals which were documented in the book “The Naked Communism”, by W. Cleon Skousen, the former FBI agent. The book was published in 1958
          and submitted into Congressional records on Jan 10th, 1963.
          For at least last 50 years the Lefts are working actively behind the scene in the shadows moving people and the values of this country in the direction that was DESIGNED TO DESTROY this country.

          Read through these communist goals written over 50
          years ago and you’ll see that the Leftists are accomplished almost every single one of the 45 communist goals, or on its way to accomplish and nobody seems to notice it???

          And we still talk about America’s “exceptionalism”.

          The Communist Takeover Of America – 45 Declared Goals http://www.rense.com/general32/americ.htm

          Please, PASS IT ON. People have to learn what their “elected” politicians are doing with their country, and “We the People” are paying them with taxpayers money for the destruction of this country.

      • Vis Fac

        Bud Tuggly That’s good. I like it!! One of my favorites is Boyaree dum and unrelated newest birth control enzyme noassitall

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • Average_Joe56

          My parents used to give me Noassatall pills when I was a kid…that’s how I ended up being Bud Tuggly.
          ;)

          • Vis Fac

            Better than Pug Ugly!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      His comments are almost always just ad hominem attacks of one person or another. Nothing new there.
      By the way, guys, is this Dave Erickson the same as FB Scifidave and our very own Shill Dave?

      • Vis Fac

        Don’t you mean DUMB DAVE (my own retaliatory ad hominem)

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          No, because I don’t know if he’s dumb or not, but I’m pretty darn sure he’s a Shill from the various comments that he’s made. I think a Shill is a much more onerous descriptive because they know full well they are misleading people but they do it anyway because they are evil.

          • Vis Fac

            Blunt too says the moron who is as sharp as a marble Mark is DUMB DAVE in disguise but his diatribe is a dead give away of the typical cranial necrotic liberal.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            The usual argumentum ad hominem from Shill Dave.

  • wandamurline

    Doesn’t the Constitution cite this as treason? We must get the Senate away from the Marxists and keep the House and then we can file impeachment charges against this Muslim Brotherhood member who resides in OUR White House. Aiding your enemies is TREASON, and any member of Congress who allows this is guilty as well. GITMO needs to stay open because sooner or later a bunch of these anti-American elists will be permanently living there.

    • Lady

      Our White House? Imagine what the Native Americans felt when YOU raped, robbed, lied and stole this land (home) from its natural people. Please, get a real soul. Let’s keep it all the way REAL! The bible also states, we reap what we so…

      • LINDITA

        GIPSY SAID. HITLER HAS BEEN GIPSY ROOT IN PREDATORY TRIBE GREEK. GIPSY RACE IS THE ONLY RACE WHO NEVER HAD HAD RELIGION INHERITED FROM THE PAST, NEVER BELIEVE ON THE GOD LIKE OTHER RACES AROUND THE WORLD. SO, ALL OF THE GIPSY ARE ATHEISTS. IN THIS TIME MOST OF THEM CAN GO AS IN FRONT IN A MUSK OR, IN A CHURCH. THE PEOPLE FAMOUS OR, NO FAMOUS WHO HATE AMERICA AND AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GIPSY ROOT IN A GREEK TRIBE ONE PERCENT IN THIS COUNTRY AND BEYOND.

        • James

          Please get off the all CAPS, its hard to read your rants.

          • LINDITA

            DON’T READ, TWIST THE STICKS….

          • James

            What the h e double hockey sticks does that mean, and you are still stuck on all caps………… in addition your grammer sucks and I am not an English teacher… I tried to re-read your rant, that’s what it is alright, makes zero sense.

          • LINDITA

            IF, THE READ IT’S A DIFFICULT FOR YOU, MAKE SOMETHING YOU FEEL GOOD. LA,LA,LA….

      • Nadzieja batki

        You had to throw this BS in because you had nothing else in what passes for your brain. The Bible also says a lot of other things so you had nothing else to choose from and it may be that you are reaping what you sowed.

      • Don 2

        Wow…..wandamurline must be around 150 years old by now if he raped, robbed, lied, and stole this land from its natural people. Kudos to you wandamurline for living so long. What’s your secret?

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Who committed these atrocities? Mostly the psychopaths that call themselves Government.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Evidence, Shill Dave?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Just a minute while I hunt down my kazoo to celebrate Shill Dave actually providing some evidence for his conjecture for once.
            By the way, Shill Dave, how would Free Markets support corporatism, since the definition of that word is — Corporations which receive special favors from Government — and Free Markets would preclude any special Government favors?
            Any of the intelligent readers know that I am the polar opposite of a corporatist. So your silly unfounded name-calling just shows the readers how generally ignorant you are, or that indeed — You are the “corporatist”, and a Shill who is trying to mislead people.

      • wandamurline

        Before you shoot off your big mouth again, I’ll let you in on a little secret…..I have over 60% Native American blood. And you bet your sweet @zz that this White House belongs to the American people, which the Native Indians happen to be part of.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          You go, Wanda.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          People are people, Shill Dave, at any point in time. Most are good (or try to be), and a few are Evil (like you, Shill Dave). Unfortunately the Few are the ones who float to the top.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            What’s the going price for souls, Shill Dave?

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    “The psychopaths in Washington, D.C., have always used lies, obfuscation and doublethink to agitate Americans into war under the pretext of American patriotism. Wars benefit the global elites, the banksters and the military-industrial complex to the detriment of the people and their wealth and are made possible by fiat money printed willy-nilly. Without a central bank, wars would be far less frequent and would all end quickly. Central banks allow countries to make war on credit and run up debts that are never intended to be paid” — Bob Livingston.

    Right on target, Bob. Great article. Thanks.

  • MUFFIN MAN

    Putting aside all ideologies & philosophies, etc…& just looking at the facts, how can we possibly send weapons to the rebels, or take sides in a civil war in which both sides hate us & there is no national interest at stake?…heck, Syria does not even sell us oil! Also, it appears that arming these rebels may be in violation of the law, but Obama has broken that many times with his litany of illegal ex. orders over the years!…that is just the plain facts!

    I can’t know what is in a man’s heart or soul or mind, so I don’t know what Obama’s reasoning is…I do know he threw Mubarak under the bus & endorsed the Muslim B’Hood, which is killing & persecuting Coptic Christians, so I’m thinking Obama is a supporter of radical Muslims & their agenda…after all as the Good Book (the one Obama supposedly follows), “By their fruits, ye shall know thee”

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Even if there was “national interest”, whose would that be? The interests of Crony Capitalists? Certainly not mine.
      We have let them dumb down our Constitution to the point where they can justify attacking anybody they want, but the only valid reason for actions of War would be a direct attack on our own country.

      • MUFFIN MAN

        Yes, you are right of course! The only plausible argument that could be made for national security is that , (and it is a huge stretch) Iran & Hezbollah are supporting Syria & they are our enemies!

      • Vis Fac

        OUR Constitution is (for now) the same as always. However, the usurpation is another story. If We the People remain apathetic it will soon go the way of the DODO Bird.

        If we continue to remain silent we are giving tacit approval that these usurpations are acceptable and further erosion will continue. The old adage of “first they came for the…” comes to mind. We are now at the point of having them come for us and no one seems to care.

        We must first take back OUR public school system and revert to traditional education and ignore political correctness issues. We should no longer accept political indoctrination and eliminate all those who sponsor this dogma.

        We must clean house locally and elect representatives who listen to their constituents. We must INSIST that all public assistance programs be paid for by the recipients either by public service or work crews This will provide needed manpower and ease the tax burden Those who refuse will be cut off.

        I worked all my life paid more taxes to see them WASTED on unnecessary programs and given to the indolent and illegals. It’s time for a real change.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • Deerinwater

          My taxes, my, blood, my hide too Recon . ~ Like a longtime old Neo Conservative friend of mine said back in 1978. ~ After they have”stole” my money . I don’t give a #hit what they do with it. ~ They’ve stole my money!

          • Vis Fac

            The apathetic attitude like that is what got us in the hole we are in now. Time for real change.Not ODUMBO’s change that has changed us from a free society to a socialist society and slaves to the government AND a Reality Check

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

    • Vis Fac

      If you don’t know than you’ve been asleep or in a coma. ODUMBO’s allegiance was well known prior to the 2008 election and with the aid of lame stream media pulled the wool over America’s eyes (at least 50-1% of them. ODUMBO’s change was not what the American people hoped for and certainly wasn’t what those who voted for him expected either. Those who drank the Kool-Aid thought he would give them free goodies ( a few did) and redistribute the wealth to them. SHAZAM you people got played taxed and received nothing but fewer jobs higher debt and less take home pay. So how’s that change going for you all?

      ODUMBO despite his proclamation that the war on terror no longer exists is guilty of TREASON and should face impeachment proceedings and face appropriate punishment. The problem is all the willing accessories to his criminal activities would face the same if impeachment were to be brought up. I have no problem prosecuting these traitors and replacing them. Only thing preventing them form doing so is the code amongst them similar to the code of the police. You don’t prosecute your own kind.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • MUFFIN MAN

        Certainly all the evidence points to your point of view, still one cannot know for sure 100% what is in his heart, mind & soul…maybe, he is just really stupid! Maybe he is both…I let God be the judge, but impeachment is in order for his plethora of illegal ex.orders & changing ObamaCare illegally as well!

        • Vis Fac

          ODUMBO is anything but stupid. It is most of America that is stupid. A stupid person could not con the masses as he has or managed to do for so long.
          The only way ODUMBO could tax the middle class and ruin our economy was to openly go after the 1%. with “sweeping tax reform” which congress bought. (this is not being stupid it’s being crafty)

          ODUMBO was able to protect the 1% who own him giving them several additional loopholes while closing those of the real taxpayers the American workforce thus effectively raising taxes on EVERYONE especially the middle class. AND no one noticed or seemed to care.

          Now the indolent 47% didn’t care and the other 4% wanted to get even with the evil 1%. I guess they got what they wanted and then some.

          Again this was a planned assault on our economy ODUMBO grew up in the third world and wants us to be like Kenya, and will do anything he can to achieve his agenda, not stupidity

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

  • Beverly Buckman

    Why would our own military and police come for our guns? This is their country too, They are destroying themselves…all for a stupid job. Stand with your country and not these monsters in government. It is time for them to STAND DOWN AND ARREST THEM!

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      They will use UN troops, Beverly, who don’t live here so could care less about our Freedom. Similar tactics were used in the USSR. The Leaders aren’t dumb people — psychopathic, no doubt, but not dumb.
      http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/beware-the-psychopath-my-son/

      • Vis Fac

        UN troops with their blue targets and outdated tactics wouldn’t last a month against armed angry Americans . As I am a dedicated supporter of the VA and the veterans. I often overhear conversations mostly from Vietnam Vets to this effect These veterans LOATHE ODUMBO because he is forcing ODUMBOCARE on most of them to drop them from using veterans benefits they earned.

        The general consensus is that veterans will take up arms and resist whatever martial law is instituted including the UN (I might add we know a thing or two regarding guerrilla tactics). ODUMBO had best be careful as this is a common sentiment amongst all VA facilities that I have the pleasure of visiting I am reasonably sure it is common for all.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

        • rbrooks

          who would be giving us the same support to fight either our govt., or an intervening force, that the nva and the vc received during nam?

          even a guerrilla force requires a supply chain.

          how would you assemble a guerrilla force?

          you would want to restrict a fair number of us, simply because we are not conservative enough for you.

          most of us nam vets are getting old and are not in the best of health. which is why you see so many at the va. our current combat troops are not in this country. they are deployed. where will you derive this resistance force from.

          we could teach and train. we would be a liability in the field.

          do you think daveh and sammyeye are actually going to do the fighting.

          it all sounds great posting on this little site from the comfort of your home.

          the reality is a bit different. waving the flag, thumping your bible and claiming you are number one is not going to be enough to win.

          your tactical plan at the moment is based on personal belief, conversations and a general consensus.

          not much of a plan.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I doubt you’re a Nam vet, Flashman. You have no credibility on this board.

          • rbrooks

            you have proven you are an imbecile numerous times. your credibility is strictly in your own small mind.
            there is no doubt about you at all, comrade davey.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            If you were a credible person, Flashman, that might hurt my feelings. But you aren’t.

          • Vis Fac

            Says the giant among intellectuals. PULEEZE get a grip you aren’t all that and even less in our eyes after that comment!!! I refer to people as you as a KEFT to be ignored when at all possible.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • JeffH

            …like your word carries any weight…no credibility at all.

          • James

            Better than your plan of doing nothing.

          • Vis Fac

            You might be surprised by the resolve of we veterans for when it comes to defense we are rather united. Being veterans it wouldn’t take long to establish a chain of command and organize as the VA would be instrumental in spreading the word. Being older (and wiser) and in poor health does not detract for one’s spirit or patriotism.

            Apparently as a “nam vet” I find your patriotism questionable as you feel as you do. No sane person would want conflict but then again no sane person would just stand by and do nothing. If that were the case there would be no United States of America now would there?

            Apparently you being a “nam vet” weren’t in the bush but rode a desk and know little or nothing of guerrilla warfare. We used to fight these insurgents and know they capture and use weapons taken from the dead. Since UN are armed well and their tactics leave much to be desired you can use your imagination

            The DHS is not the only entity hoarding ammunition. Have you tried to find ammo in gun shops lately? It is being hoarded by those who know what is looming on the horizon.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • Willie Johnson Jr.

            go to ( bulk ammo.com) and you can buy ammo by the 1000 at a time 55.6 or 223 55gr 62gr search it

          • rocketride

            Were they managing to keep it in stock 6 months or a year ago?

          • Willie Johnson Jr.

            bulkammo.com

          • Willie Johnson Jr.

            Please click on this sight for your ammo ( bulkammo.com)

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Force,
            rbrooks is just one of many personalities that the multiple-personality troll, named Flashman, has assumed on this board over the years.

          • rbrooks

            obviously you had, and have, very little training in any type of warfare. you share similar problems with comrade davey. you make too many assumptions. with the normal failure rate of those assumptions.

            your lack of understanding of supply and logistics leads me to believe you never served.

            your total lack of knowledge about guerrilla warfare would be humorous, except you plan on leading others to their death.

            as to your inane comments on use of enemy weapons. one would have to have the same ammo to make much use of them.

            section a,g & h. for a total of 15 months. just where were you and these other patriotic warriors stationed?

            comrade davey and sammyeye’s combat experience is derived from watching movies and playing video games.

            your derision is not unexpected. none of you ever liked academy trained nco & officers.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Arguement to ridicule. My combat experience was in the deserts and mountains of Afghanistan and Iraq, but it seems yours is from video games and dreams of your imagination. Here is a video showing what Obama bin Laden, along with your ilk, are doing to this great nation.
            http://www.theblacksphere.net/2013/09/united-states-state-sponsor-terrorism/
            Looks like your bunk buddy is not doing so well, now is he? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”
            Ronald Reagan
            40th President of the U.S.

          • Jim Read

            Your one little comment, you are not conservative enough said it all. It will take GUTS which by your lengthy comment shows you don’t have. The program could be a simple one it will just take about a million Veterans and Patriots with the same type of GUTS our founding fathers had. Yes most of us Vietnam vets are aging but I’m sure many are like me, they still shoot straight.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Argumentum ad hominem. Yawn. And they pay you for that, Shill Dave? Obviously, they’re using other people’s money.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Argumentum ad hominem. Again. Yawn. You’re getting boringly trite, Shill Dave.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Argumentum ad hominem. Dang, Shill Dave, you’re boring people to tears. You ought to try some intelligent conversation once in a while. I think you can do it.
            Well, maybe not.

          • rocketride

            That goober sure does have a hardon for von Mises, doesn’t he.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          I hope you’re right, Force, but after the New Orleans incident, I don’t have much faith in that.

          • Vis Fac

            I do because I speak with veterans on a weekly basis They are quite fed up with ODUMBO and his crones. And to a man even though we detest combat will stand ready when necessary. At any one day there are at least 3,000 vets at the VA facility closest to me and given the nearly 1,200 VA Facilities the numbers are almost inconceivable. So I do keep the faith!!!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • angelwannabe

          Force Reacon, My Husband always said the commies started this 20 years too early, there is still enough of us old b*st*rds around to raise some h*ll!

      • TML

        That would be ridiculous since, as I’ve shown before, the UN has no jurisdiction of internal policy of member nations. That said, if you see the little blue hats on American soil doing such a thing; shoot on sight.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          You have shown us nothing, TML, but your conjecture. You are ridiculously naive, TML, if you think the UN couldn’t be invited to operate on our soil:
          http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/08/heres-proof-un-soldiers-are-actively-operating-on-american-soil-2453796.html
          http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/are-foreign-troops-given-authority-to-enforce-the-un-small-arms-trade-treaty-on-us-soil/
          Member nations of the UN:
          http://www.un.org/en/members/
          Current UN “peacekeeping” missions:
          http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/

          The UN was created BY LEADERS FOR LEADERS.

          • TML

            I’ve shown you; you’re just ignorant. But I guess that’s to be expected from someone who gets all his information from the news, and blog sites. The fact that they are here, doesn’t give them the right to execute laws that are not in their jurisdiction. The invitation would be against the Charter, and our Constitution.

            UN Charter Chapter 1 Article 7
            “Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state…”

          • Vis Fac

            Well the fact that they are here has blown your thesis. If they are now here dictates that they have been invited and can act on the request of the POTUS I suggest you conduct meaningful research on your own rather than parrot liberal one dimensional idiot-ology.

            I see an armed blue hat ready to attack me I will make sure they know where I am I’ll have the first shot the rest will scatter like a covey of quail and picked off one at a time. The likelihood of that occurring is about as remote as where I live.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • TML

            The fact that they are here, doesn’t blow anything. Even UN meetings are held within the United States, but that doesn’t mean they are here to execute any kind of laws. There can be no lawful invitation for the UN to assist or execute Executive Orders or laws in the U.S. I agree that the likely-hood of that ever happening (i.e. UN officials confiscating American firearms) is next to nothing, but as I mentioned, if I were to see that, I’d be right there with you on the first shots.

          • Vis Fac

            FYI UN meetings are held in the UN Headquarters and sovereign like foreign embassy’s are The UN troops at the bequest of the POTUS act on his authority and not the authority of the American people. UN Troops do not execute laws as you like to believe but ORDERS from above. You really need to get your paradigms straight before you comment.

            You are more than welcome to join me and the thousands of others who will fire the first shots, that is if you’re serious and not playing lip service.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

          • TML

            According to our Constitution, the POTUS doesn’t have the authority either; Congress does (and I’d bet on seeing many States secede if Congress ever did such a thing). And no, it’s not paying lip service. I’m giving the legal foundation which would justify the action against foreign troops on our soil who might confiscate American firearms on mere orders which have no authority.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I wish I could be there when they’re pointing their guns at you and you’re whining — But that is against the Law!

          • TML

            Hah, no Immature Dave, we have a different phrase here in Texas…. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Come_And_Take_It_Mural.jpg

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            A smarter approach would be to stop the cancer before it metastasized.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Who’s “we”, kimosabe? You’re an interloper, here by the good graces of Bob, who certainly has more tolerance than me. Difference of opinions is one thing, but your sole purpose for being here is to harass good people trying to break free of a lifetime of Propaganda.
            I would throw your useless butt out on the web where you could whine about your Free Speech rights to somebody else.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Who do you think you’re kidding, Shill Dave? You’re a collectivist who disrespects Free Choice unless it’s the life of an unborn child.
            Eventually, you will wear Bob’s patience thin, and he will put you out to pasture where all useless Liberal Progressives belong.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Thank you for showing people what they’re in for when their life is controlled by Liberal Progressives, Shill Dave.

          • rocketride

            “Non Sequitor”?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Exactly. The UN is an organization created BY LEADERS FOR LEADERS. The smartest way for the Gang to subdue insurrection by those people, who have tired of oppression, is to use soldiers from other countries.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Then it will be too late because too many people have been lulled into false senses of security by people like you.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            No, TML, it is you who is ignorant. I supplied a link to the member nations of the UN, and one to countries who they are currently engaged in “peacekeeping” missions. If you’ll take the time, you’ll see that some of them are UN members which directly refutes your ignorant claim — “That would be ridiculous since, as I’ve shown before, the UN has no jurisdiction of internal policy of member nations”.
            Take, for instance, the member states of Afghanistan, or Haiti, or Mali,…..
            If they are invited in by our own Government, Ignoramus, your “jurisdiction” argument goes out the window.
            And even if they weren’t, Ignoramus, charters mean nothing to psychopathic Leaders. Anybody with any intelligence at all can see that by the way the Federal Government has usurped the Constitution.

          • TML

            Look at what each peacekeeping mission entails, DaveH. Each peacekeeping mission outlined by respective Security Council Resolutions, details the jurisdiction of international law. They are not there to execute laws, but to protect civilians, provide humanitarian aid (medicine and food), and facilitate political aspects to help the country stabilize – not to engage militarily or execute laws. And as I mentioned, if they were invited here to do so, then it would be not only against our Constitution, but the UN Charter as well.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            They will just be disarming us for “peacekeeping” purposes.
            How can you be so damn naive, TML? Our Founders (all but the anti-Federalists) argued that the Constitution would limit the Federal Government also but, as history has shown, the Leaders can find ways around any restraint to their Power ambitions:
            http://mises.org/daily/2335

          • TML

            It’s not being naive, DaveH, as I’ve already mentioned my resolve if I were to witness such a thing. But if you’re wanting me to say that they can do so legally (as you seem to be arguing), you just aren’t going to hear me say that.

        • S.C.Murf

          TML I’ve told you before the UN has mandated to all member nations that they will change their Hazardous Communication Programs to the UN’s agenda of the new Globally Harmonized System so that ALL member nations do it the same way. Training has to be completed by 2014 and all labels and new SDS’s have to be implemented by 2015. And you say they have no authority. Get a life

          up the hill
          airborne

          • TML

            LoL! No, they don’t have a mandate, as in the ability to force member nations to go along with the program. Most nations already have systems in place (e.g. OSHA). It only incorporates those nations who approve and accept the system. Nonetheless…. Yeah, we need to be so afraid of a universal standard for classifying and labeling chemicals. Oh, the tyrannical horror! lol
            Go get a life yourself buddy; paranoia is no way to live.

      • Merle Dickey

        Remember he asked the Russian military to step in if we had violence over the zimmerman /martin case.I think he was hoping for riots, then a large chuck of americans could get killed off. He does have this is mind. Even Obamacare, if you are over 76 and get diagnost with a life threatning illness such as cancer that with out treatment you will die . They will not treat you but give you pain medication and end of life counseling!! Now what does that tell you? Kill off part of the population and try to disarm them?

    • Vis Fac

      I don’t believe the military will obey orders of a madman However DHS is another story They didn’t but 1.6 billion bullets for nothing DHS will come just as the National Guard did in New Orleans after Hurricane Catrina because the government feeds them BS and has programmed them to react instead of think.

      Unfortunately the DHS is armed with military grade hardware and “Personal Defense Weapons” that are identical to what is issued to the military. Weapons of similar design and appearance in a civilians hands are labeled as “Assault Weapons”. and all of us who own these weapons are labeled as terrorists. So if ODUMBO is hell bent on arming terrorists he should have no problem with the Patriots who are considered “terrorists” here in the US being armed as well. EXCEPT ODUMBO is akin to the Al Queda terrorists and loathes Americans.

      Liberals had been warned time and time again unfortunately Liberal one dimensional idiot-ology eliminated all rationale and objectivity assuring the destruction of OUR Constitution and America.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • CommonSense4America

        They also brought in contract companies to assist the guard in N.O. during katrina. Blackwater comes to mind, but it may have been another outfit,,,not sure of the name. Totally, totally against the 4th Amendment.
        IMHO,,,the government will, at some time in the future, do this again and disreguard the Constitution. This is why we MUST defend the 2nd Amendment. Without the 2nd Amendment,,,the others will soon fall.

        • Vis Fac

          The second amendment was to be the first but the climate of having no free speech against King George made the founding fathers decide that free speech was most important. The Second was equally important but there can be only one number 1. The second is supposed to guarantee all the others but apathy had led to the usurpation of the third fourth and fifth.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

      • James

        Seems to me our own military would take care of these DHS terrorists. No way (being x-military) does the regular military go along with killing United States citizens. It just will not happen.
        Semper-Fi

        • Average_Joe56

          Unfortunately, most of our military is not on US soil. Most of them are in other countries around the world…could this be by design?
          Just think, “Red Dawn”….food for thought.

          • Vis Fac

            Red Dawn is highly unlikely as Hideki Tojo said “We shall not invade the United States for their is a rife behind each blade of grass”

            ODUMBO’s gun grabbing cabal cannot get all the weapons and anyone foolish enough to think it is possible is sadly mistaken.

            Adolf Hitler knew the power of the individual who was backed up against the wall this is why he had the Jews disarmed and why ODUMBO wants Americans disarmed It has nothing to do with the liberally coined phrase “gun violence” but control over the people those who believe otherwise are delusional.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est
            Semper-Fi

        • Vis Fac

          I would hope not. Myself I would never obey such an order then again being a “mustanger” I refused to carry out ridiculous orders that put my men in peril. I was never considered field grade material anyway. so they shipped me off to another agency.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

        • Merle Dickey

          I pray yoy are right.

        • James

          Not real military folks, with no training, yeah, I remember the marches in the 60’s, bet you were not alive at the time or you would know more about history.

    • http://www.rt.com Alondra

      According to the ConstitutionalSheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) the SHERIFF ASSOCIATIONS of the 18 States and total 479 Sheriffs and police chiefs across the country are saying “NO” to ALL unconstitutional policies of the Kenyan EGO-Centric Psychopath. http://cspoa.org/sheriffs-gun-rights/

      This is a list of a 140 companies that are AGAINST gun control and have taken the steps to publicly announce that THEY WILL NOT SELL ITEMS TO STATES, COUNTIES, CITIES, AND MUNICIPALITIES THAT RESTRICT THEIR CITIZENS RIGHTS TO OWN THEM; therefore closing the “police loophole” themselves. http://www.thepoliceloophole.com/

    • http://www.rt.com Alondra

      WHY THEY WANT TO DISARM PEOPLE???
      The Litmus Test – obama to Army Officers: “Will You Shoot Americans?”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cNuiLJHejKM#t=262
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzT6X3_Bg9o

      China’s opinion on the Kenyan Fraud: @14:43 Chinese people call him Monkey man. In China he is held as a joke and they see him as a traitor to the own country. Chinese people despise him.  

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    David Erickson (Facebook) says — “The first few paragraphs were so full of baloney that I couldn’t finish reading it. These writers just can’t come up with enough facts to justify their columns, so off into fantasyland they go. At least they’re laughing all the way to the bank not caring that many of their readers will buy this schlock without question”.
    Ah yes, the familiar Liberal Progressive Argumentum ad Hominem.
    Feel Free, Fiction author Dave, to specifically dispute anything that Bob has said. And references please, not the usual Liberal Progressive manipulative nonsense.

  • Fred

    Just think how many more mall shoppers, in Obama’s native Kenya, could have been murdered if only Obama could have managed to get more guns into the terrorists hands in a timely manner. This continued opposition to President Obama’s plans can result in tragic consequences !

  • Monte R Stamper

    HE HOPES BY GETTING GUNS OUT OF OUR HANDS IT WILL BE EASIER FOR EL QUAEDA TO TAKE OVER, WHILE WE ARE TRYING COPE WITH OBAMACARE.

  • rbrooks

    another page from old bonzo’s play book.

    • JeffH

      Typical liberal/progressive response!
      Why don’t you point out Mr. Livingston’s shortcoming’s with this article rather than making such an obtuse comment?

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Because they can’t. To be specific would be to make them easy targets for those of us who are informed.

        • rbrooks

          what short comings? old bob gave a great accounting of bonzo’s policy’s.

          you simply are to stupid to make the obvious connection.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Duh, the smart guy can’t even pick the right “Reply” button.
            Pass that joint this way, Flashman.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            How about we account for the policy’s of Obama bin Laden? What has he really done? What has he taken responsibility for? One answer fits them all. “NOTHING!” Sometimes I wonder how they let people like you free from the mental institution you attend. I guess your psych drugs are not working. Maybe you need to up the dosage? Here are some articles about Obama bin Laden, his administration, and his bunk buddies.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/savage-obama-disarms-americans-arming-al-qaeda-terrorists/
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/benghazi-heats-cia-employee-refuses-gagged/
            These are about his friends and supporters.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/navy-yard-shooters-friend-liberal-obama-supporter/
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/mccain-trashes-unflattering-report-syrian-rebels/
            Here is something about costing jobs due to Obama bin Laden Care.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/hospital-layoffs-planned-ahead-obamacare-implementation/
            I see that you, along with your ilk, wish the destruction of this country and are rejecting our Christian founding. Such people I call traitors. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior.”
            John Quincy Adams
            1837

          • rbrooks

            all of that from a boat refugee. were you still wearing your black pajama’s when you got off the boat.
            you fled from your own country. you have already proven to be both a coward and a traitor.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The personal attack and arguement to ridicule. Classic libturd/progturd strategies when they cannot answer the questions asked them. Here is an article about the many broken promises of Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/22/red-line-just-one-roughly-500-obama-promises-that-have-come-and-gone/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
            “The problem with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, just that they know so much that isn’t so.”
            Ronald Reagan
            40th President of the U.S.

          • rbrooks

            you quote a liberal. while demonizing liberals. all while incorrectly using the liberal label.

            you use that personal attack and ridicule in your every post.

            seems to be all you have.

            even more amusing is how you have tried to portray yourself as a patriot. since you, and your commie family, have never actually fought for any of the freedoms in this country you now abuse.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. He cannot do such a thing, for he lacks the mental faculties to be able to perform such actions. Here are some articles about Obama bin Laden, his Muslim bunk buddies, and 1 university in Indiana.
        http://www.clashdaily.com/2013/09/obama-christians-drop-dead/
        http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3967/christian-women-degradation-islam
        http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/09/discovery_insti_4076411.html
        I guess we Christians still have to suffer at the hands of less intelligent beings. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “10. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
        11. Blessed are ye when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
        12. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.”
        Jesus Christ
        Matthew 5:10-12

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      I see another libturd/progturd log has been put on the fire. I always liked the smell of roasting librturd/progturd in the morning. Since you try to bash Reagan, who was the better president of the 2, here are some articles about Obama bin Laden and his legislation.
      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/09/barack-obama-charged-treason-aiding-terrorist-organizations/
      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/09/constitutional-necessity-defunding-obamacare/
      Here is one about his friends at CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood, who have been disbanded in Egypt by their courts.
      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/09/muslim-brotherhood-hamas-front-group-cair-money-laundering-us-capital/
      Looks like you have hitched your wagon to a fallen star. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
      “The true Christian is a true citizen.”
      Theodore Roosevelt
      26th President of the U.S.

      • rbrooks

        what would bin laden be with out old bonzo.

        what country and which god are you claiming to love today.

        how often will it change.

  • Michael Shreve

    “President Barack Obama last week waived the prohibition against supplying terrorist groups with arms.” Why is there ANY doubt whose side Obama is on? When did President’s ACQUIRE the authority to pick and choose which laws to obey and enforce?

    • Vis Fac

      There isn’t any doubt on what side ODUMBO is on only blind obedience of the left drinking his Kool-Aid.

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • Merle Dickey

      Since Obama came in . He uses his executive orders very blatantly and refuses to listen to what the majority of the people want him to do .

    • angelwannabe

      “When did President’s ACQUIRE the authority to pick and choose which laws to obey and enforce?”___answer__A defacto President who is really a CEO of the US Corp!

  • JeffH

    Excellant article again Mr. Livingston!
    Now wait for the progressive trolls to weigh in with unsupported accusations and mis-truths directed at you and the PLD staff.

  • TML

    “The Syrian civil war is a war manufactured by the United States — as was the Libyan civil war — on behalf of the petrodollar and Saudi Arabia and Israel. Those countries are driving U.S. policy in the region.
    That Obama would seek to overtly arm the very terrorist organization that the United States is supposedly at war with in at least four other countries — and that a number of members of the U.S. Congress support such a thing —
    demonstrates inconclusively America is being governed by psychopaths and controlled by foreigners, banksters and the military-industrial complex.”

    I would say conclusively, rather than inconclusively.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Do you feel better now, Ignoramus?

      • TML

        Wtf? You’re a complete immature idiot DaveH

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          I’m not the one correcting Bob’s obvious typo, Ignoramus.
          Does it make you feel superior to correct other people’s mistakes, TML?

        • TML

          Yeah, I’m getting that. I’ve showed him up so much that he has a vendetta against me now; even when I’m saying something he agrees with, he feels the need to ridicule.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Showed me up? Maybe with ignorant readers, but the intelligent ones read the links and learn the truth. That puts you with the former group, TML.

          • rbrooks

            not even the ignorant are buying the load comrade daveh is selling.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Thank you, Shill Dave, for being a sterling example of what regular Folks can expect from the Liberal Progressives when they have full control of their lives.

          • Barakolips

            You have not showed up anyone and no one has agreed with you that I see. Mostly down arrows except for Dave, and he dosent count!

  • LINDITA

    AS PEOPLE, ALL TALKING IS HOW TO WASTE A TIME AS MUCH AS OBAMA’S SUPPORTER CAN HELPING TO BANKRUPTCY ALL AMERICA’S STATES ESPECIALLY IN NEW YORK. “VERY SPECIFIC” IS OBAMA WANTS TO TAKE OVER THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY IN THE UNITED STATES. JUST LIKE HE DID WITH BANKING, AUTO-INDUSTRY, ENERGY, HEALTHCARE. TO PREVENT AMERICA’S DISASTER OBAMA MUST LIVE FROM THE OFFICE NOW. AMEN!

  • Vis Fac

    Diplomacy works does it? Have you ever tried to negotiate with an angry pit bull? If you have then I needn’t say any more.

    Libertas inaestimabilis res est
    Semper-Fi

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Don’t waste your time trying to awaken Shill Dave. He’s not here to learn anything, just to keep others from learning.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        You like that negative attention, eh SciFiDave?

    • Robert Messmer

      Egypt at the time was led by Anwar Sadat–not a radical Muslim. Which by the way, they (Muslim Brotherhood) didn’t like the peace.

  • rlw943

    Funny how they’ll believe the research findings of a contractor and mention an article from the Wall Street Journal, both despised my the conservatives unless it’s something they can use to try and support their ideology

  • Doug

    you have OBVIOUSLY never been in the Middle East and have NEVER experienced the HATRED Radical Muslims direct at our military and even at our expat civilians. These people do not care about a “diplomatic solution”. All they care about is killing infidels, that means you and me! And it does not matter where you are located, as we are seeing attacks world wide. WAKE UP! obama is part of the problem! The arms transfer is taking place and the groundwork to take our guns here in the US is being laid. You will see, ovomits term is not over yet.

    • Doug

      why don’t you get off your lazy boy and go over to Syria and ask them? I already know the answer, but you should experience it for yourself.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        It is not Israel for sure. Now Israel and America are picking on those poor little muslims who nearly wiped out all the Jews and anyone who opposed muhammed and his marauders during their thieving raids. Remember the Zoroastrians and the history of the Parsis anyone?

        • Robert Messmer

          Except that the USS LIberty wasn’t sunk. Yes she was damaged but left the area under her own power. Israel paid restitution for the deaths, injuries, and even the damage (with interest) to the ship. That was during the famous Six Day War (as a comedian said the reason for 6 days was that the Jews got a discount at Rent-A-Tank for not keeping them a full week). Both countries conducted inquiries and the official determination was the attack was an accident due to faulty recognition. Maybe we should keep our war toys out of war areas when we are not the ones actually playig.

  • paendragon

    ALL politicians owe the world an explanation for why they continually insist that:

    “Islam must be a valid religion because it’s god prescribes wanton
    random murder as the only sure way into it’s heaven! Whee!”

    SERIOUSLY – DO TRY TO EXPLAIN YOUR SELVES, YOU COMPLICIT TRAITORS!

    ;-(

  • Dave

    How long until the very weapons that obama wants to arm the terrorists with are used on American soil? While this same group wants to disarm Americans. It makes no sense.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Arguement to ridicule and no facts from Dave the traitor. Here is what you and your ilk are supporting. It sure isn’t the Christians you are supporting.
      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/toddler-forced-to-watch-execution-of-parents-while-chained-by-syrian-rebels/
      I guess this means that you and yours are nothing but a bunch of murderers. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out traitor.
      “There are no atheists in fox holes.”
      Samurai

    • Don 2

      “Go ask Reagan that question…..”

      Dave, you win the award for the most idiotic comment of all time.

      • Don 2

        Wow! I cannot believe that you still don’t get it. lol

    • Robert Messmer

      Why when rushing to Obama’s defense is your first response to go back 30 years? Do you not know that simply saying well he did it too, is not a defense? And no, too many people from the Administration have appeared on too many talk shows, news programs advocating their damn anti-gun nonsense for anyone to say simply that it is a lie propagated by Bob Livingston.

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    PART 3
    August 2013 – Western experts say Syria footage appears inconsistent
    with use of military-grade chemical weapons http://www.euronews.com/2013/08/21/expert-casts-doubt-on-chemical-weapons-footage-from-syria/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdOGLmUlqqA

    August 2013 – Syria OKs Chemical Weapons Inspection BUT Obama Rebuffs?!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgWO-IXF-uA&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dQDe8uwBVVLBAlFRk1NSdFx

    August 28, 2013 – Syrian rebels in the Damascus suburb of Ghouta have admitted to Associated Press correspondent Dale Gavlak that they were responsible for last week’s chemical weapons incident which western powers have blamed on Bashar Al-Assad’s forces
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/syrian-rebels-admit-to-being-behind-chemical-weapons-attack/5347424
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5kda1KhqlU

    “We were very curious about these arms. And unfortunately, some of the fighters handled the weapons improperly and set off the explosions” one militant confesses.

    August 29, 2013, London – UK parliament votes against supporting any U.S. strikes in Syria
    http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/08/29/20241897-british-parliament-votes-against-possible-military-action-in-syria?lite

    30 August, 2013, Washington – During his speech, John Kerry referenced a photograph used by the BBC illustrating a child jumping over hundreds of dead bodies covered in white shrouds.

    “We saw rows of dead lined up in burial shrouds, the white linen unstained by a single drop of blood,” Kerry said
    http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-kerry-caught-using-fake-photos-to-fuel-syrian-wa/

    But the Secretary of State forgot to mention, however, that this photo was taken during US intervention in Iraq back in 2003. I think he has amnesia after Hillary’s concussion.

    The same photo BBC used for their propaganda against Assad.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e__vryaOQXE

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    Part 2
    June 22, 2013 – IN JUNE, SYRIAN JIHADISTS CAUGHT REDHANDED WITH SARIN GAS

    Russia asks Turkey to share its findings in the case of Syrian rebels who were seized on the TURKISH-SYRIAN BORDER with a 2kg cylinder full of nerve gas sarin. http://dcclothesline.com/2013/09/04/in-june-syrian-jihadists-caught-redhanded-with-sarin-gas-geller-atlas-shrugs/#more-17335

    June 22, 2013, Dublin – Clare Daly, the member of the Irish Parliament said: “We have to call things by their right names and the reality is that under any serious examination this man (the Kenyan Fraud) is a war KRIMINAL.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SX58vqcEU0

    Jul 5, 2013, Egypt – A message to Obama from the Egypt (English
    message starts @0:40) “obama, leave us alone … Leave Egypt alone. And STOP supporting the terrorists” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sInoCZ3RHLs

    July 2013, BERLIN — Russia has compiled a 100-page report DETAILING what it says is EVIDENCE that Syrian rebels, NOT forces loyal to President Bashar Assad, were behind a DEADLY SARIN GAS ATTACK in an Aleppo suburb earlier this year. The report had been delivered to the United Nations in July. http://www.libertariannews.org/2013/09/05/russia-says-its-compiled-100-page-report-blaming-syrian-rebels-for-a-chemical-weapons-attack/

    26 August 2013, Moscow – Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s press conference http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZB81uxPJY

    Transcript on English: http://www.mid.ru/brp_4.nsf/0/7426DF843775ABD244257BD500611D38

    “Russian experts have conducted their own investigation of the incident of the 19 March. By the way, they did it fully complying with the compliance criteria of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) and presented a full and extended report to the UN and members of the Security Council. This is an extremely specific document, unlike the affirmations we hear about the so-called “conclusive evidences” of guilt of Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad of the events of 21 August.”

    “[T]he question is: HOW and WHY they (children) were all in one place and in one time. Nobody explains it. Why the symptoms we see on these videos do not resemble the symptoms, when people get poisoned with sarin gas or any other substances. WHY THE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE to those who were exposed to this substance DO NOT HAVE ANY CHEMICAL PROTECTION.

    “In the UN Security Council, we will use ALL the scope of information”

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    Part 2
    June 22, 2013 – IN JUNE, SYRIAN JIHADISTS CAUGHT REDHANDED WITH SARIN GAS

    Russia asks Turkey to share its findings in the case of Syrian rebels who were seized on the TURKISH-SYRIAN BORDER with a 2kg cylinder full of nerve gas sarin. http://dcclothesline.com/2013/09/04/in-june-syrian-jihadists-caught-redhanded-with-sarin-gas-geller-atlas-shrugs/#more-17335

    June 22, 2013, Dublin – Clare Daly, the member of the Irish Parliament said: “We have to call things by their right names and the reality is that under any serious examination this man (the Kenyan Fraud) is a war KRIMINAL.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SX58vqcEU0

    Jul 5, 2013, Egypt – A message to Obama from the Egypt (English
    message starts @0:40) “obama, leave us alone … Leave Egypt alone. And STOP supporting the terrorists” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sInoCZ3RHLs

    July 2013, BERLIN — Russia has compiled a 100-page report DETAILING what it says is EVIDENCE that Syrian rebels, NOT forces loyal to President Bashar Assad, were behind a DEADLY SARIN GAS ATTACK in an Aleppo suburb earlier this year. The report had been delivered to the United Nations in July. http://www.libertariannews.org/2013/09/05/russia-says-its-compiled-100-page-report-blaming-syrian-rebels-for-a-chemical-weapons-attack/

    26 August 2013, Moscow – Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s press conference http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZB81uxPJY

    Transcript on English: http://www.mid.ru/brp_4.nsf/0/7426DF843775ABD244257BD500611D38

    “Russian experts have conducted their own investigation of the incident of the 19 March. By the way, they did it fully complying with the compliance criteria of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) and presented a full and extended report to the UN and members of the Security Council. This is an extremely specific document, unlike the affirmations we hear about the so-called “conclusive evidences” of guilt of Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad of the events of 21 August.”

    “[T]he question is: HOW and WHY they (children) were all in one place and in one time. Nobody explains it. Why the symptoms we see on these videos do not resemble the symptoms, when people get poisoned with sarin gas or any other substances. WHY THE PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE to those who were exposed to this substance DO NOT HAVE ANY CHEMICAL PROTECTION.

    “In the UN Security Council, we will use ALL the scope of information”

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    PART 1
    15 August 2011 – NATO and Turkey Support Armed Rebels in Syria. Campaign to Recruit Muslim “Freedom Fighters” http://www.globalresearch.ca/breaking-news-nato-and-turkey-support-armed-rebels-in-syria-campaign-to-recruit-muslim-freedom-fighters/26019

    January, 2012, UK – WHO are training Syrian rebels? The British media confirms: the British Special Forces, CIA and MI6 Supporting Armed Insurgency. NATO Intervention Contemplated http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-british-special-forces-cia-and-mi6-supporting-armed-insurgency-nato-intervention-contemplated/28529

    May 14 2012 (more than one year ago) Russia Warned the world about the Syrian Rebels’ training in Kosovo http://www.globalresearch.ca/terrorist-expertise-and-the-kla-russia-warns-against-training-syrian-rebels-in-kosovo/30850

    10 December 2012 – US Defense Contractors Training Syrian Rebels to Handle Chemical Weapons http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-defense-contractors-training-syrian-rebels-to-handle-chemical-weapons/5315180

  • Carlos

    People wake up! We are losing our country, we are losing our freedom and it’s time we take a stand. both the Republican and Democratic parties are corrupt.
    The whole Washington DC is a cesspool of crooked politics and the White House is stained with an ideology of Muslim and Marxism.
    They corrupted the education system starting in the sixties and now our schools are not much more than a training camp for a Marxist type Socialist society with a Muslim taint.

    The only way to put a stop to it is march on Washington and demand a complete reform, send barry to his Homeland and Joe Biden back to where he came from.

    We are infested with millions of illegals draining our resources, changing our politics and all this we are paying for through taxation, Obamacare is nothing more than a huge tax increase and and denigration of our health services, especially Medicare.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. It also seems that the libturds/progturds treated the families of the Benghazi debackle very rudely.
      http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12622/democrats-treat-families-benghazi-victims-like-garbage/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “Better to fight for something than to die for nothing.”
      General George S. Patton, Jr.

    • tinkerunique

      Colorado HAD a couple Senators ram more gun control thru, a couple major businesses left the state, and the people recalled them. THOSE TWO are NO LONGER in office. Is Colorado the only state with “brass” ?

  • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

    Dear Dave,

    You write: “no war or transfer of arms has happened yet”
    http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-admin-admits-to-covertly-sending-heavy-weapons-to-syrian-rebels-2012-12
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-06/28/c_132492917.htm
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/cia-begins-weapons-delivery-to-syrian-rebels/2013/09/11/9fcf2ed8-1b0c-11e3-a628-7e6dde8f889d_story.html?hpid=z1

    You write: ” there as been no “disarming” of Americans either implimented or proposed by Obama.” This statement is so ludicrous there is no need to rebut it. That you would make it defies imagination.

    Best wishes,
    Bob

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Dave,

      You write: “Please tell me the weapons that you have turned in please…” Non sequitur. Go back and read your original assertion.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Dave,

        And you continue with your ad hominems, obfuscation and sophistry.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

        • rocketride

          I bet that that ass-clown “Dave” gets paid by the posting.

          Somehow, I’m picturing him as an agoraphobic, unable to leave his mother’s basement, and thus unable to make a living by other means.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear rocketride,

            I have had many fruitless conversations with Dave. They reveal he is simply a sad and deluded individual, a progressive who believes in big, nanny-state government. He has no clue what liberty means and has no understanding of the reason for the founding of the country and the freedom the Founders sought to protect.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

  • Robbie

    Actually arming the Syrian rebels was a GOP idea.

  • chrisnj

    It may be in Israel’s interest for the Syrian regime to be tied down fighting rebels on its own soil rather than threatening Israel and providing safe haven for Hezbollah and other Islamist jihadi groups, but I doubt they see it in their best interests for Assad to fall, leaving Islamists with a whole country and a stash of modern military weaponry including chemical weapons and nuclear material.

    Alas it seem clear that Obumble is a Islamist sympathizer and collaborator who similarly is hostile to Western ideas of constitutionally-limited government and republicanism.

    To those who voted for Obumble and to those who stayed home in protest of the flawed but honorable Republican alternative (no, not the turncoat McCain), shame on you for what you have wrought.

  • Barakolips

    Your down arrows keep piling up, must be your awesome brain power, is corporatist your big word for the day?

  • Sevrin

    Our country has gone to Hell,there has to be a change in our Govmt or we will
    all be in trouble and that is what Obummer and his left winger want,they are
    nothing but a bunch of TRAITORS,they all must be fired!!

  • facetious

    I wonder… will they give them back to us when it’s over?

  • paendragon

    Re: “demonstrates inconclusively America is being governed by psychopaths” @BOB: Surely you meant “conclusively!” – No?

    ;-)