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Obama’s Fiscal Plan Leaves Low-Income Americans Out In The Cold

February 16, 2011 by  

Obama's fiscal plan leaves low-income Americans out in the coldAlthough many critics have accused President Barack Obama of targeting the pockets of wealthy Americans, his budget proposal for 2012 could also strip poor Americans of billions of dollars worth of aid.

According to media reports, the President's plan includes cutting the Community Services Block Grants — which fund ant-poverty initiatives throughout the United States — in half, saving approximately $350 million. In addition, Obama has called on lawmakers to slash the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program from $5 billion to $2.6 billion. The National Energy Assistance Directors' Association reports that, if approved, the President's budget would exclude about 3 million households from the program.

Although Obama has stated that some of the money saved will go toward the most effective anti-poverty efforts in America, many organization leaders are concerned that low-income Americans will be harmed by these cuts. Ralph Markus, director of the Office of Home Energy Programs, said that a lot of low-income homes would be heating-deprived if the budget is enacted.

Reverend Larry Snyder, the president of Catholic Charities USA, said that he understands the tough choices facing Federal lawmakers, but he believes the wrong group of Americans will suffer from proposed cuts.

"We reject the notion that those most vulnerable among us should feel the greatest impact of future reductions," said Snyder.

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  • Mick

    I am all for supporting the poor to some extent but even charity should have its limits……
    This home energy program is fine and dandy but when I see people leaving doors and windows open in the summer while having the AC going full blast and see the reverse in the winter time just because they don’t have to foot the bill I say , let them cook or freeze.
    When will our American population realize that there is a happy medium in all things ????

    • Doc Sarvis

      The behavior you note in your post is wrong of course but do not paint all recipients of these benefits with your broad brush. The vast majority of those in need do not waste their benefits.

      • Mick

        Doc Sarvis says:
        February 16, 2011 at 8:02 am
        The behavior you note in your post is wrong of course but do not paint all recipients of these benefits with your broad brush. The vast majority of those in need do not waste their benefits.

        ****************************************
        As usual you’re the one painting everyone disagreeing with you in the same light, you should get out a bit more and realize that although we do have some poor folks responsible enough to care about which side their bread is buttered on many more don’t give a shit……
        Your liberal attitude and the ones like you have plunged this country into a hole that only tough measures about our spending and the restoration of morality will fix and your idea of right isn’t cutting it………..

        • Eric Bischoff

          Screw you! you despicable misogynist racist arse holes.

          Liberals have always been the ones pushing for efficiency and clean energy as well as compassion. We are social.

          Conservatives on the other hand seem to only care about lower taxes for the rich and for corporations and they are already showing their true colors.

          Get your heads out of your arses.

          For to all those who have, more will be given, and they will have an abundance; but from those who have nothing, even what they have will be taken away (Matthew 25:29).

          The biblical parable of the talents depicts the effects of U.S. welfare policies — social and corporate. Poor welfare recipients, who are predominately women and children, face time limits, workfare requirements and sanctions. At the same time, large corporations — with directors and executives who are predominately wealthy white men — receive billions each year in corporate welfare through subsidies, tax breaks and giveaways with little accountability, public scrutiny or time limits.

          Is this God’s economic distribution plan?

          The parable of the talents asks us as a society to consider how we use our talents — our public funds and resources. Are we to help those in need or are we to heap profits into the hands of a few?

          Our conservative government Instead of working on Jobs and the economy are waging war on women and the poor..

          God knows Planned Parenthood and Acorn are the biggest evils we face today.

          Who is kidding who!

          I think it’s

          • lkar

            Since you brought it up, women and children are the predominantly poor welfare recipients. Why is that? Where are the men that the bible clearly teaches should care for their wives and children?
            I agree corperate welfare must end, but what about personal responsibility? The parable you try to use in your argument is about personal responsibility, not social responsibility.

          • Eric Bischoff

            As usual you completely missed the point.

          • lkar

            I got the point. You hate conservatives. Your logic sucks and you are distorting the truth of the Bible. I guess you do not work or you are self-employed. I sure hope you do not shop at any of the “big” stores for your goods.

          • libertytrain

            Eric – I’ve been doing green stuff since I was a kid. Right down to hanging out the laundry. And my leftist friends always made fun of that because it was so uncool – you don’t own it now, so many of us have been doing conservation type things for years and years that suddenly the Left thinks it created. You are so bogus and so self-righteous.

          • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

            The parable is not aimed at government, it is aimed at an individual. The government is not supposed to collect from the rich to give to the poor. It is up to each individual to support those who are less fortunate. I guess that is why conservatives give more to charities then progressives do.

          • 45caliber

            Eric:

            You say the libs care and the conservatives hate the poor.

            How is it that the majority of money given to charities for the poor come from the conservatives? Most liberals give little or nothing. Can it be … horrors! … that the liberals aren’t interested in giving their OWN money to help others? Just someone else’s?

            And quit trying to quote the Bible. Yes, Jesus wants us to aid the poor. But not once did he state that we should give the money to the government and let them do it.

          • JJM

            That’s right, the liberals give more to charity than do the conservatives. Unfortunately its our tax dollars (and that of my unborn grandkids) that they give!!
            Charity (WELFARE) is not something that the government should be involved in, but if so it should not be never-ending or even long extensions of unemployment checks. Let church, family and friends be the donors.
            And then consider how much tax $ flow out of the country as charity to Africa, etc. Then follow the trail to see how much ends up in ubdeserved hands.
            If you don’t earn it, you don’t appreciate and respect it = waste.

          • barbm

            you are the arse hole. the feds were supposed to reform welfare, but what did they do? they still give more money for every child born even if the woman is on welfare when she gets pregnant. that MUST stop. if you want more babies that i have to help you support, you need to learn to stretch a dollar til it screams or tears. they also said that, if there’s a child under the age of 5 in the home, the parents don’t have to go to school or work. that encourages them to have baby after baby the births of which we must pay the medical bills. the feds are supporting prositiution in my opinion. lie on your back for any tom, dick or harry, and we’ll pay you more money.

        • jessica

          You are so right. You can’t give anyone free stuff. They trash it.
          If they want the heat help, let them clean the halls, wash the windows and help at the food bank. They should also help out as the schools.

      • EddieW

        Obaba wants to do away with the poor and the elderly, the very ones who helped build this country…but he is a Muslim, does not hold any American values, and quite possible not even a citizen of this country!! Please Pray that we can keep our Family Values and the Constitution…this very foundation of our country is under attack!!!

      • Ted Crawford

        Can we assume, from you comment that you have personaly been been involved as a recpient of the governments largess? After you seem so assured that you are correct!
        I doubt it! I, on the other hand have had that misfortune. I can assure you, from my personel expierence that you are wrong. My 5 siblings, my mother and I lived within that system from the time I was 5 thru 14. After my mother married and my step-father taught us about personal responsibility, I realized the tremendous amount of waste that occures with-in the system!

        • Ted Crawford

          sorry. My response was to doc!

    • http://MSN.com Mary

      I remember in the Grocery store I saw a young black family. A Black man he was maybe 28 year old with young black wife and a little son. Their grocery cards had a lot of food. I saw he paid for those food by food stamps. They looked young and healthy. I believe, people who receive food stamps should go and clean streets than seat at home and do nothing.

      • brothergene

        Mary:

        I may have been that Black man in the grocery store. When I was 28, I used food stamps. I also had a job, attended school, paid taxes, and took care of my wife and son. Today I don’t need food stamps but if I need them, I would use them.
        You can bet all these immigrants use food stamps, I don’t see you railing on them

        • JJM

          Mary’s example was only that – not a racial statement. It applies to ‘white trash’ as well.
          If not severly disabled, receipt of freebies should require some type of community service!!

          • barbm

            in ms, to offset costs, the prison sends out non-violent offenders to sheriff and police departments to do their janitorial work. the town saves money by not having to pay so much, the prisoners get to earn a bit for commissary and get out for a while, and the citizens taxes stay low. welfare recipients could do cleaning in city, county, and state buildings. if they make less then they would on afdc, we can make up the difference. if we didn’t have to pay so many entitlements, we could afford to give everybody medicare.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JJM
            Keep an eye on Ohio!! They are trying to pass legislation that says to get your monthly welfare check, you first haver to pass a drug test!! finally some common sense!!!

        • http://MSN.com Mary

          Brothergene , It wasn’t you because it happen in 2010. I am 23 year old. I am working and studying at the same time. I qualify for food stamps, but I don’t apply for help. I always say to myself that I can manage it without food stamps and I believe I can do it. I often ask help from God and I always pray for help. God will help us.

    • JUKEBOX

      That concept is totally incapable of being understood by over 90% of Progressive liberals.

    • Gregg

      Did you actually see all of these poor people leaving their windows open or did you just make that up? Is the money given to these people unlimited too? Does the government just pay whatever the energy bill is or is the amount set?

      I just want to make sure we have our facts straight because some folks like to just make up facts to support their argument.

  • s c

    Gee, what a surprise. Politicians like Obama couldn’t exist without easy votes from certain segments of America.
    They wanted a utopian drum beater. We got hosed with a political Dracula. The sooner the rest of the nation learns that cold, hard fact the easier it will be for all Americans to have a healthy distrust of ANYONE who feeds off the public.
    In this case, what we have is a lemming who expects to be seen as a great leader. If he’s such a great leader, then WHERE all those great plans? WHY is there such a gap between Obama’s plans and RESULTS?
    Progressive utopianism is a mental disease, people. Reality is the cure.

    • Eric Bischoff

      Yes and in this case it is the Conservative supported government by corporations and for corporations that is getting the biggest corporate welfare handout through subsidies, tax breaks and giveaways.

      This is Fascism. How dare you have the nerve to stand on your high horses. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

      FASCISM – an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
      • (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

      The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43), and the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also fascist.

      Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach.

      DEMAGOGUES – Political leaderS who sees support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.

      • lkar

        So because the Democrats were in control the last six years, and control the Senate and executive branch, you are describing them as Fascist. So the liberals are now right-wing extremest. Nice logic you have there.

        • s c

          I, people who talk about fascism being connected with this party or that are behind the learning curve. Fascism refers to a situation where you can’t tell where a government ‘ends’ and business ‘begins.’
          When the two are inseparable, there is FASCISM. The party affiliation is irrelevant. Now you know what you need to know about it.

      • JUKEBOX

        When are you pseudo intellectuals going to realize that corporations do not pay one cent of tax. They simply collect tax from the end consumer, and pass it along to the government. All corporate taxes are factored into the cost of any product or service, the same way labor, rent, utilities, etc. are. Raise taxes on business 150% and the cost of your new car will double. Anyone who does not understand this is DUMB, DUMB, DUMB!

      • Ted Crawford

        That is the accepted Public School view of Hitlers Ideology. From Hitlers personal correspondance with various world leaders and his staff, it’s clear that he didn’t view Communism as an opposing ideology, but rether as a compedator for the same voting block. Hitler was not right wing!

  • TIME

    A few months back in Atlanta the POOR who are on PA, were lined up for credits for extra energy cost. The line was so long that you could not count them all, there were tens of thousands.

    When a few of these special people were asked about this program for the local news, one stood out in my mind as the most common responce was from a woman who had this special comment;
    “: I will set my the’romOstats at 80* – and I don’t care what anybody has to say. You all owe me!”

    Thats is as clear as it gets, do you still need a picture?

    People we have the money to set our heat at 80*, yet we set it at 68* in the winter and at 78* in the summer. Oh yea, thats due to my being wasteful according to the special people of the world.

    • Mick

      TIME says:
      February 16, 2011 at 7:06 am
      A few months back in Atlanta the POOR who are on PA, were lined up for credits for extra energy cost. The line was so long that you could not count them all, there were tens of thousands.

      When a few of these special people were asked about this program for the local news, one stood out in my mind as the most common responce was from a woman who had this special comment;
      “: I will set my the’romOstats at 80* – and I don’t care what anybody has to say. You all owe me!”

      Thats is as clear as it gets, do you still need a picture?

      People we have the money to set our heat at 80*, yet we set it at 68* in the winter and at 78* in the summer. Oh yea, thats due to my being wasteful according to the special people of the world.
      ***************************************************
      Same here TIME,, We set ours at 80 in the summer and 72 in the winter, we can take the heat better than the cold and it burns me up to see the so called poor not giving a damn about the people footing the bills while we are dictated to care about them…Their freedom to do as they please using other people’s money is protected by our government but OUR freedom is being trampled on on a daily basis jsut because we are responsible citizens. Will it take a revolution to stop this madness? I hope not……….

      • libertytrain

        I agree with both of you, and I do the same. I have often wondered why those that get these handouts and continue to behave irresponsibly, are excused, over and over and over again. Somehow they are given total immunity from personal responsibility.

      • Granny Mae

        Time and Mick,

        I agree with both of you, and have seen welfare waste by the handfuls. A helping hand becomes a way of life if there is not cut off line drawn. I hate to say it but it seems to be a part of human nature. Why pay for what you can get for free ??? Just some of the facts that I personally know of, 1. A young woman get WIC because she is pregnant. They don’t like milk and can’t eat all the fruit so they feed it to their pig ! 2. another young woman was going to get married. She was pregnant and had a handycap, as she was deaf from childhood. Her parents search out every form of assistance they could to qualify her for schooling for the hearing impaired. They were able to send her to some of the best schools, and get her every new aid for her convience there was. She was trained to be able to work out in the public and did very well. The law says there can be no discrimination on an employers part in hiering and there wasn’t. She had a very good job. When she and her boyfriend discovered she was pregnant, they decided they would get married and began looking for an appt. etc. Then they were told by her case worker that if they didn’t get married they would qualify for SSI for the baby because of mommy’s hearing disability. Guess what? They didn’t get married and today have three children ! 3. A young woman had three children and got married to a man with a child of his own. Her three children were already on assistance and because they did not belong to the new husband they still qualified for assistance and the new husbans child also fell into that nitch as she was not related to the new step mother, along comes a brother to the new step father and he is off work because he has a mental problem and can’t seem to hold a job or keep a roof over his head so big brother takes him in and now he also qualifies them all for more assistance such as housing and electric and heating and food stamps, then the oldest daughter of the mother gets pregnant and brings her boyfriend into the house to live along with the new baby, eventually the boyfriend leaves for greener pastures and young mommy starts dateing again ! Today she is home again with another baby on the way ! She is on WIC and getting food stamps plus all of these young women had or will have the birth of their children paid for by the state ! Clintcher for this family was , at Christmas time the mother , father and three younger children decided they would go on a cruise for their christmas present and after the cruise they would spend a week in their time share condo in Orlando Florida! Mom decides it wouldn’t be fair to all go on the cruise and leave older pregnant daughter and her boyfriend home alone for christmas so they decide to send her to some relatives for two weeks. Their reasoning was they wouldn’t be a burden, (mommy, baby no. 1 and the boyfriend) because they would send the food stamps along to help feed them all !!! Now all of these people qualify for medicaid and in fact one of the teenage children is now in a mental facility (not the step fathers brother) being paid for by the state, and all the new babies will be born on the state also. That today is very expensive ! Plus the new mommies are being sent to birthing classes and for incentive to go, they are given what is being called mommy money that they recieve on every visit that they can exchange for things like new cribs and car seats and even clothing for baby or mommy. Now we come to an older woman, in her late 30′s early 40′s. This woman had a good job in an ajoining town to where she lived. The job was about 35 miles from her home. It paid her well enough that she was able to purchase a new car to drive back and forth to work, however she had not considered the cost of her insurance coverage on a new car when she bought it. (Full coverage was expensive) nor did she think about the cost of gasoline going up. She was finding things a little tight and didn’t like not having any money extra. When the cost of fuel went up the first time she quickly quit her job and let her car go back because she could live better on welfare and food stamps than she could working and she didn’t have to worry about where the money was coming from , it was always there every month !
        My point here is this, there are abuses in all of the state and federal programs. No-one wants to see the poor go hungry or without heat or a roof over their heads and it doesn’t matter what political party you belong to. The point is there are abuses and until we tighten the reigns on these programs and make them temporary, there will continue to be abuses. With abuses like these it takes away from helping others that really need the help ! These are just a few of the things I see and hear about all the time. By cutting the allowed spending for these programs maybe someone will get the idea to start eliminating the waste. But then again maybe not! We will see.

        • Granny Mae

          Oh and by the way, I also know of a woman in her 50′s that came down to Florida in the summer from Main. She was not use to the heat we have down here and didn’t like the air-conditioning as she felt cold all the time. Instead of turning the thermostat up she simply went over and opened the sliding door to let in some heat !!!! Needless to say the air was running constantly to bring down the temp. and eventually froze up the unit ! You could not get it through to this woman that she had to use the thermostat and not open the sliding doors ! Talk about a ding bat !

        • brothergene

          That sounds like selective enforcement of the rules, not the waste you speak of.
          I personally know of welfare workers of both races that selectively allow people to skirt the rules while others are rejected for aid illegally.
          Corporate welfare is also abused, as it funds much of these “bonuses” these top executives get.
          You want to see real abuse of government aid, check out the recipients of these massive bailouts, the bonuses they got and how we got into this recession in the first place

        • JJM

          Often, sterilization should be mandatory!!!!! China’s 1 child policy sounds great to me, just don’t let it be negated by immigration (legal or illegal)….

          • 45caliber

            What I’d like to see is a $10 fee paid to women on welfare to NOT have a child. If they do, instead of getting more money as they do now, they lose that $10. I think you’d see about 90% of the new babies suddenly stop.

          • sandra

            Hi, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say $10 wouldn’t be enough. However, I believe the government should offer a stipend to every man and woman to have elective sterilization. It would have to be probably $500 or $1000 each, but think of how much it would save in the long run. Also, once the first one is born on welfare, the woman should be told to have her tubes tied or she would have to pay for every subsequent child. And there should be a limit to how much food stamps a person can get even if they have another child every nine months.

          • Bruce

            Now you people are sounding like Nazis . they wanted to sterilize the sick and weal also.

        • barbm

          2 reps in texas have introduced bills to require the passing of a drug test to get aid. most folks don’t know it but, the feds give the money to the states and leave it to the states to disburse as they see fit. the state can make rules for qualifying. that’s what my congressman, charlie gonzalez d-texas, said. and mow they’re putting forth a bill. i’m anxious to know what they’ll do about the children if the parents don’t pass.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Time and Mick,
        As I sit here and type, my thermostat is at 69* and in the summer, I set it at on program to come on at 72 at bed time to get asleep then it goes up to 80. I’m tight with a dollar!!!

    • Doc Sarvis

      Again I say; the behavior you note in your post is wrong of course but do not paint all recipients of these benefits with your broad brush. The vast majority of those in need do not waste their benefits.

      • eddie47d

        Mick and Doc; You are both right for I have seen folks getting assistance who never abuse what they get and could actually use more. On the other hand I have seen abuses in the check out lines at the grocery store and people on welfare leaving their windows open in the winter. We must help our brethren but more importantly we must teach them to be responsible. They are using someone elses money and those few abuser should be More responsible.

        • libertytrain

          I don’t think people can easily learn, if at all, how to be more responsible if they are always receiving the money with no strings attached.

        • Granny Mae

          eddie47d,

          As much as I would like to agree with you, I’m afraid the reverse is the norm. I have spent too much time around these people over the years and although they come at first with much need there is no incentive to ever leave and it ends up corrupting them and the system. The system needs a major revamping and has for a very long time.

          • 45caliber

            I agree.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Granny Mae,
            I lived right across the street from a family who was on welfare, Their daughter got pregnant and lived with the guy at home. Welfare came by many days checking but they said the boyfriend didn’t live there. He was making 300 a week, she was gettin welfare, the family was getting welfare and their heat and air was paid. The boyfriend got killed in the factory he was working in so she got death benefits and got another boyfriend making good money each week!!! Talk about milking the system?? I heard the other day the child is now 15 and, you guessed it, PREGNANT!!!!

    • bec

      Maybe those recieving assistance for energy bills should also recieve the regulators on their thermostat so the power company can set the temperature. Just a thought.

      • Mick

        bec says:
        February 16, 2011 at 3:27 pm
        Maybe those recieving assistance for energy bills should also recieve the regulators on their thermostat so the power company can set the temperature. Just a thought.
        ***************************************************
        bec …..I thought of something similar decades ago when we were in the military.
        People had the AC going and the doors wide opened just because they didn’t pay the bills and the reasonable thing to do would have been to omit the cost of so many KWH’s per month then charge them for the overage, I can assure you that the abuse would stop………

    • Ted Crawford

      I think most of us would agree with Benjamin Disraeli when he said “To tax the community for the advantage of a class is not protection, it’s plunder!”

  • Al Sieber

    I don’t have a thermostat to set haven’t had one for years, I just cut wood and throw it in the stove when it’s cold, as far as cooling in the summer I use solar panels. been off the grid for years, so would the Govt. come out and chop my wood for me?

    • s c

      Al, D will be there to help chop wood for you on the same day that Obummer comes out from behind his Oz-like curtain and sends ten thousand ‘volunteers’ to help clean up the many trash-laden trails left by illegals who sneak into Arizona.
      For now, I wouldn’t hold my breath on that issue. You know how progressives are when it comes to reality.

      • Al Sieber

        s c, it would take hundreds of thousands of volunteers to clean up the mess continuing to pile up in Ariz. left by the illegals daily, when their trucks break down they leave them and get another one, which was once a pristine wilderness area is a disgusting junk yard and garbage dump and this administration continues to ignore it. most people that read these posts don’t know about it.

        • blessed

          sounds like mexico

        • Ted Crawford

          I find it interesting Al, that even in view of that this administration continues to use the EPA to twart the Border Patrol from securing the border because the use of motorized vehicals would “upset the natural balance of the areas”! They are either, clueless or it’s deliberate action!

          • Al Sieber

            I can’t figure it out either Ted.

      • lkar

        Be careful. The EPA might deem your smoke a hazard to the enviroment and ask you to install $100000 scrubbers or carbon capture on your chiminey. Not to metion the poor trees that must be sacrificed for your warmth. Your entire operation could be seized and you would be offereed a nice place in a downtown area that is being “revitalized”.

      • libertytrain

        I can’t imagine that the current pres would even know how to cut a piece of wood – Wouldn’t it muss his hands?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        sc,
        Actually, it would be you know how progressives are about WORK!!!

    • Mick

      Al Sieber says:
      February 16, 2011 at 8:03 am
      I don’t have a thermostat to set haven’t had one for years, I just cut wood and throw it in the stove when it’s cold, as far as cooling in the summer I use solar panels. been off the grid for years, so would the Govt. come out and chop my wood for me?

      **********************************************
      Good morning Al….
      Good one !! Hey according to the Liberal mind the Government should in theory come and help you chop the wood but considering you’re not one of their own you can wait until hell freezes over, on the other hand if you assure them that your next vote will be for one of their thug you may have a shot…………

      • libertytrain

        Actually the Gov. will order Al to chop it, measure it, and deliver it to all those on the Gov. dole who may or may not have a use for it, know what to do with it, whether or not they have a fireplace or woodburning stove.

    • Ken

      Probably if you promise to vote democrat for the rest of your life.

  • Doc Sarvis

    I totally agree with the Rev. Snyder’s statement. The poor are going to suffer even more while the top 10% are given the keys to the vaults of gold.

    • TIME

      Please tell us who is that top % are name some names for us Doc.

      Tell us all who they are, please do I just can’t wait to see you’re list of names, to this % that wizzz minds like you keep pointing out.

      • karolyn

        Time – You know who they are? Why should anybody have to post the names of the holders of all the wealth in this country?

        • eddie47d

          Yes Time you know who they are so why the sarcasm? How about Gates,Limbaugh,Hedge Fund Managers,Koch’s,Soros,The majority of Corporate Executives,Geithner,Paulson,Beck,Gore,Wall Street employees,and we could easily throw in a few Musicians and Hollywood starlets and sports executives and players. Some have earned their money but we should demand a refund from some of them.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie I don’t know about the rest, but the first two you mention DO pay a payroll! Even Rush has employees!! Check it out!

    • Ted Crawford

      Doc, does it bother you at all that this statement comes from a repersentative of the Church that owns the largest collection of artworks and artifacts in the world? The bible, even the Catholic one wich contains more books than the Protestant one, mandates the Church to care for the poor, not any government. It also commands that we store-up treasures in Heaven and not on earth.
      If the Vatican were to sell a large portion of their net worth and distribute the proceeds to the poor they could really make a dent in poverty!

  • karolyn

    A couple of years ago I tried to get energy assistance. I was 61 and had no income other than what I scraped together by selling whatever possessions I could and selling my usual “stuff” at the flea market. In a poverty state like SC, the demand is so huge, I don’t even think I got on the list. People with kids come first, of course.

  • George R. Horn

    I don’t think any of us want to see the real poor loose the help. The media looks for people like the woman told about, they are controversial and stir up the emotions of those who are fortunate enough to have the money to buy energy. I live in NYC I can’t see a neighbor suffer from the cold and we have had a brutal winter. What are we to do tell all that too bad you have to freeze. Now air conditioning is another thing, unless it is a medical necessity, then use fans. We have a crisis in this country, and we need to make sure that the government does not live above its means. We need to hold all politicians accountable both parties are to blame not just the Democrats. Maybe we do need more than just two main parties.

  • overthetop_conservative

    I prefer the trillion dollar banker entitlement that buys currency for cost of printing and then lends it back to US for face value plus interest. Poor people should freeze or starve while we investors thrive and financially rape your sorry azzes.

  • Eric Bischoff

    The irony is that Hugo Chavez the man we so love to denigrate might be the one who is providing the most help to poor Americans with his oil for the poor program. Sad isn’t it.

    Read U.S. Poor to Benefit from 6th Year of Subsidized Venezuelan Heating Oil.
    http://venezuelanalysis.com/news/5965

    We only have money for Wars and subsidies for wealthy corporations.

    • eddie47d

      Wars are very costly and seldom well thought out. Some are for Freedom (Desert Storm) and serve a long term purpose. Although that war can be questionable too. Others are sewer pits and lead to to unnecessary deaths (Iraq War and Vietnam). Freedoms are very questionable in both those wars.The Military Industrial Complex made a real Killing where a few got rich and the majority suffered. There is plenty of money for the truly poor if we stopped these wasteful incursions into other countries.

      • lkar

        However, simply giving money to the poor (also called redistribution)has proven to be ineffective. History bears the evidence that government has never effectively enrichened the poor. Do not misunderstand, short-term assistance is effective. But long-term distribution leads to generational servitude. All of us want to help the poor.
        The problem is the personal responsibility, the corporate responsibility, and the social responsibility do not agree on the method to reach the same goal. Many point out the corporate greed. Still others point out the politicians power grab. And many point out the lack of personal responsibility. I am not sure what the answer is. But many will try to spin it toward their ideology.

        • 45caliber

          I agree with you.

          • sandra

            Excellent way of looking at things. I totally agree with both of you.

    • Ted Crawford

      It’s standard leftist tactics to seduce the disadvantaged and the lazy with “free” hand-outs! That is untill they feel their position is secure and they are invincable, then the gloves come off and the real policy is enforced!

  • http://com i41

    Wortried about low income thank the dems, Freddie and Fannie help destroy the banks. Started by FDR, encouraged strongly by Carter, banks were told by Whorehound to make more loans to minorities wheather they had jobs or credit history. Most had a history like Onumnutts, drug use and dealing, never worked a job. Or of schooling it was under affermative action on screwing the taxpayers, and breeding like rats. Blarney Flanks and rapist Dodd and all dems would not investigate either organization.The 8 times when GW called for checking out the facts in mess, it was passed off as fine, even by Onumnutts. Since we have too many wilderness areas, gather up all the mobile housing units and put the poor out there raising their food and thinning dead timber, they can live off of wild game and fish or fowl. heard eagle and hawks are good eating anytime. Same goes for the indian reservations, they need tyo grow their food, instead of living off taxpayers, plenty of buffalo anre being slaughters up in Yellowstone, so what if they havre bangs disease. Put all males who will not take care of their offspring or support them out in the cotton patch,since we are so short of cotton to make cloth.

  • blessed

    I have been a recipient of the Energy Assistance Program for the past three winters in MN. My teaching position was cut in 2003 due to budget. I am living way below poverty level, about $9000 a year, as a substitute teacher. Everyday I thank God for blessing me with a warm home and the opporutnity to use my education to help others less fortunate than I am. The Lord alwasy takes care of his children.

    • pete

      God bless you Blessed !

      Everything would have been fine economically if the USA had not turned it’s back on technological development. The machines were producing the wealth in the factories. Now the factories are closing down.

      American youth rather be financiers, politicians, accountants etc. Engineeers, Technicians and Tradesmen are disappearing.

      It all started with the Federal government cancelling the Apollo moon missions back in the 1970′s – the first symptom of this anti-industrial, anti-technology disease. Now the disease is killing the patient – That patient is the citizenry of the USA …

  • jopa

    Times story sounds like it could be true but one lady in Atlanta sure doesn’t speak for the rest of Americas poor.There were probably many interviewed and gave stories about how badly they needed the assistance and how they and their children were suffering from the cold but the lady they put on the air would stir more emotions on the negative side of the program.Most news agencies have agendas and will put out the story that will accommodate their own agenda.

  • jopa

    i41;I also heard there are millions upon millions of buffalo roaming throughout the midwest.All the people have to do is dry and burn the dung for heating assisstance.
    My good lord you the Messiah has returned.You have the answers to all the worldly problems.Amen

  • http://AOL.COM FRENCHIE

    DOES ANYBODY ELSE HERE SEE THE IRONY IN THIS? IN CASE YOU’RE MISSING IT, IT’S THE LOW-INCOME PEOPLE WHO (BY VAST MAJORITY VOTED OBAMA INTO OFFICE, & NOW THEY’RE THE ONES GETTING SCREWED BY HIS POLICIES. I’M LOW-INCOME, MYSELF. BUT I VOTED REPUBLICAN & ALWAYS WILL, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW EVERY TIME A DEMOCRAT TALKS ABOUT “CHANGE”, THAT’S ALL US POOR FOLKS HAVE LEFT IN OUR POCKETS WHEN THEY’RE DONE. NOW, I AGREE THAT SPENDING CUTS HAVE TO BE MADE. BUT WHEN YOU MAKE CUTS TO PEOPLE WHO CAN LEAST AFFORD TO BE LEFT HANGING, LIKE MOST WHO VOTED FOR THIS GREAT UTOPIAN “CHANGE”, THAT’S JUST BAD POLICY ALL THE WAY AROUND. I’M NOT ON ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS, BUT I SURE HATE IT FOR THOSE WHO ARE. MAYBE THEY’LL THINK BEFORE THEY VOTE NEXT TIME & REALIZE “THE GREAT PEOPLE’S PARTY” IS NOT “FOR THE PEOPLE” AS THEY CLAIM TO BE. JUST A COUPLE SUGGESTIONS HERE – INSTEAD OF CUTTING THESE PROGRAMS, WHICH HELP AMERICANS WHO NEED HELP, WHY NOT CUT FOREIGN AID TO COUNTRIES WHO REALLY DON’T LIKE US ANYWAY & DO NOTHING FOR US BUT DRAIN FUNDS THAT COULD BE BETTER USED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN PEOPLE? HOW ABOUT A LITTLE OF THAT? HOW ABOUT PRODUCING MORE OF OUR OWN OIL & USING THE TAX REVENUE FROM THAT TO FUND THESE PROGRAMS? AND LASTLY, IN A RADICAL DEPARTURE FROM REPUBLICAN PARTY DOGMA – LEGALIZE, TAX, & REGULATE MARIJUANA. THE TAX REVENUE FROM NOT ONLY SALES, BUT FROM PAYROLL TAXES AFTER A WHOLE NEW & OUTSOURCE PROOF INDUSTRY IS CREATED, WOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO SUPPORT EXISTING PROGRAMS & FURTHER EDUCATIONAL & HOUSING PROGRAMS. NOT ONLY FOR RECREATIONAL USE, MANY THINGS CAN BE DONE WITH HEMP & HEMP PRODUCTS. BUT AS LONG AS MARIJUANA IS KEPT ILLEGAL, THESE NEW INDUSTRIES CANNOT FLOURISH BECAUSE LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN’T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MARIJUANA & JUST PLAIN OL’ HEMP. SOLUTIONS, PEOPLE, SOLUTIONS. THAT’S WHAT AMERICA NEEDS MOST NOW. NOT THE PARTISAN BICKERING & COCK-BLOCKING. BUT INDUSTRY TO SUPPORT OUR NEEDS. AND MORE SOLUTIONS.

    • Granny Mae

      FRENCHIE,

      I agree with most of what you say. I too spent most of my life in the poverty level or low income level. I raised my kids there and learned to live pretty darn well by not feeling sorry for myself and just doing what I had to do. It wasn’t easy by any means and I had the added responsibility of assisting other family members so they didn’t have to go on welfare. Some of them went anyway but they didn’t really have to. There are a lot of things out there that could be done to help all of us. One thing off the top of my head is make it possible for family members that share in the support of other family members to be able to go after the dead beat dads and MOMs . As it is now they are getting a free pass in a lot of instances. My daughter-in-law is one of them. Time limits to be allowed on welfare for all able bodied people. No assistance to anyone not a citizen of this country PERIOD ! List family members that can help in the temporary assistance of other family members or who could help with the support of their elderly family members ! I have 5 sons and there is no reason why they could not all chip in to help with the financial assistance of my hsband and I if we were in need of it ! That is what families are for ! How much would it take for a woman buying groceries to pick up a small can of veggies or tuna or even pick up the elderly to come for dinner once a week ? We forget there are other alternatives to helping other than giving out welfare. If we did these things we could have a lot more money to help with heating in the winter and cooling in the summer. Most families on low income qualify for free lunch for their children. I think this is a wonderful program and should extend to all students. If you don’t like what is on the menue for a certain day then you can bring a sandwich from home. I have sent my grandson to school with his lunch from home many times and when I do now I have to send extra for a couple of his friends !! They love my meatball subs made with hot dog buns ! I send a few cookies some apple sauce and these kids are good to go. I have to admit there is a madness to my methods though, I absolutely love it when the grandson comes home and says grannie they want to know if you will make some more ginger bread next week ? Just tickles the heck out of me ! Do you know of an elderly neighbor that could use a few groceries or maybe a little conversation over a good meal from time to time? My elderly father lived in northern Michigan and we lived in Florida and it was heart breaking sometimes to go through the holidays and not be able to see him or celebrate it with him. He was alone and I would spend hours on the phone with him letting him know I missed him and that we would see him in the summer. One day while we were there a neighbor of his came over to visit and I found out that he and his son were also alone at Thanksgiving time the year before and decided to invite my dad over to share dinner with them ! I was over joyed and dad was too. He loved to talk and visit and that Thanksgiving meant the world to him ! We as neighbors need to do more of this kind of thing. Easter is coming up and it would be a good time to stretch out a hand to someone less fortunate. We don’t have to depend on the government to do all the giving for us. Churches can hold a dinner once a week, and if several got together they could have a dinner in a different church everyday and no-body would go hungry. It doesn’t take much to fix a pot of speghetti or have a big pancake supper. When I was young we had a lot of those things and us kids loved the party atmosphere of the whole thing ! We as a people can do a lot to help the less fortunate !

  • JimH

    It seems to come down to the giving a man a fish, or teaching a man to fish. In the long run it would be better to focus our efforts on educating the poor on how to improve themselves. He will need that fish, in the mean time to tide him over until he can take care of himself. A hand out will only enable some to give up trying. There are times when someone can sure use a hand up.
    We need to learn the fine line between handout and hand up.

    • 45caliber

      You are correct – if the poor wanted to learn. Unfortunately few do.

      A friend of mine was a teacher here. One of the girls came in all excited … she was pregnant! She was going to be able to get on Welfare and get her own apartment! She could have the boys over whenever she wanted! And she didn’t need to worry about school ever again! The teacher tried to talk her into staying in school since she was making straight ‘A’s but she refused. Why should she need an education when she could get her welfare check for nothing? She didn’t need an education for that. Not so surprising, she was fourth generation welfare.

      • brothergene

        It’s the illegals that are getting most of the aid these days. Go to a welfare/food stamp office and see who’s in line. Mostly people that can’t speak a word of English and came here because they heard they can live here without working. Most of those that have jobs are paid minimum wage and you cannot live in America on minimum wage without assistance. If aid is cut, who will bear the cuts? it won’t be the illegal immigrants.

        • 45caliber

          Actually, they do work – as well as draw welfare, etc. benefits. They live on what they draw and send the rest to a bank on the Mexican border. When they get $100,000 they go back and retire. They can get a nice villa, hire a cook/maid and a gardener, and live like royalty on the interest. And the more their inflation goes up, the more they have to spend. It generally takes them about 7-8 years to save it up. Since they get welfare to live on (better than they did in Mexico) they can save every penny of their work pay.

          • Granny Mae

            45caliber,

            I don’t know if what you say is all true but I sure do know they send a lot back to Mexico and they will get three or four families together to rent a two or three bedroom trailer and share all the expenses. They carry their money on them at all times because they fear our banks and don’t want to take the chance of being found that they are here illegaly. In the area I live in there is a very big number of them and they take advantage of every free program they can. They get food stamps and their children go to school here and they get medical treatment at the health department. Their children get free shots so they can go to school. I have taken different people to the welfare department at times to give them a lift and when I wait in the loby for them to get their turn it is amazing what you see and what you can learn. Many can’t speak english so we provide an inturpreter for them. Not only in these offices but also in schools so the children can have an education. 6 years ago we had a metal carport installed and the three men that did the job were all illegal! Two were from Mexico and the only one that could speak english was from Chili. When people say these people only take jobs that no-one here wants they are lying ! Many of them are employed in construction jobs and farm jobs, which around here pay pretty good, and trucking jobs and so forth. Working on a cattle farm around here pays pretty good and has some amazing hours !

            You are right when you say they are breaking the bank here in this country with their ability to use the system, and they use it very well.

      • JimH

        45 caliber, We have a homeless shelter in our area. If you want to live there, you must attend classes on budgeting and how to do a successful job interview. The children all must attend school. No getting out of school because the folks are homeless. There is also drug testing. Show positive and you’re out. They have a high success rate of getting people back on their feet.
        I know uncle big gov. and the ACLU would think drug testing would be an invasion of privacy, but if you have money for drugs you don’t need my money to get by.

        • Granny Mae

          JimH

          Amen to that !

        • Ted Crawford

          Jim that soundslike a good investment of our aid dollars!

  • sandra

    Hey, people, I live in an area where the majority are on some kind of government assistance. I see people who are given free air conditioners sell them. People who are given free wood-burning stoves, sell them too. People who live in the same house turning in different addresses to reap the most rewards. People who supplement their government handouts with stealing. People who sell their food stamps for half their worth so they can buy a pill. People who have more and more babies so they can get more WIC and food stamps to sell. In the last big drug round-up, there were 54 people. Not one of them had a job. Many people in this area are on the third generation of welfare handouts. This has to stop. Personal responsibility is a must. If we start taking more from the rich to give to the poor, what incentive is there for the rich to work. If we don’t reign this destructive practice in soon, it will destroy our country. There are people who are truly helpless and they should be helped, but there are many, many more who are just lazy and think the world owes them something. It’s time more people stand on their own two feet.

    • 45caliber

      If we “take” from the true rich to give to the poor, the rich simply move to another country – or at least move their money there. It is the middle class that pays for most things. And even then the poor aren’t getting the majority of the money. Most of the money going to welfare actually goes to government “employees” instead.

    • brothergene

      Sandra:
      There are regions like yours all over America, places with few jobs that pay a living wage, and those that do are more and more taken by illegal immigrants because they will work for less. Those that stay there are dependent on assistance because they can’t make a living unless they find a government job, find a hustle (drugs, etc) or find a business that will pay their way. There is little economic development in these places and hasn’t been for years in some cases.
      It is possible for people to climb out of poverty, but they need development that gives real opportunity for people to break the cycle. The government’s present way of doing this will not work because it doesn’t address the cause of poverty, lack of jobs with wages that people can live on

      • sandra

        Hi, Brothergene, I live in a very rural area. There are jobs. We have several fast food places that beg everyday for “smiling faces.” We also have two call centers who advertise weekly for people. We have construction, retail, etc. I am honest. Many of these people just won’t work. I don’t believe we have any Mexicans in this area unless they are students at the law school or pharmacy school. Sometimes it really is that someone just is lazy. It is sad, but very true.

        • brothergene

          Hi, Sandra. I am from a very rural area. I had to leave because the only jobs that I could find was as a “smiling face” in a fast food joint. Most of the construction jobs in my area were taken by mexicans years ago. The call centers only hired women and most retail stores were like Wal-Mart, they cheated people in various ways. (I did get my share of the Wal-Mart settlement, however)
          My wife was one of those “lazy welfare queens” from a northern city. she couldn’t find a job, either. All that was there were stores that only hired temps or part-time, and then paid just over minimum wage. The mexicans wouldn’t work in some of those places. We went to school, graduated, found jobs in Atlanta, and now we’re cool, but I remember using food stamps, heating assistance, and WIC. and I am all for it. It carried my family through some hard times.
          Most of the so called “lazy” simply cannot find jobs they can live on without assistance, and many that are “lazy” are second and higher generation welfare that simply don’t know any better. Many are felons, locked out of most jobs, and others are simply between jobs and are still looking. In this recession, many have been unemployed for two or more years from jobs that paid upper-middle-class wages. Many are not likely to get wages like that ever again, despite their education and skills.
          but it is people like that that start revolutions, witness Egypt.

          • sandra

            Brothergene, I truly don’t mean to offend anyone. I am glad you are doing well. As I said before, there are those who are truly helpless, and I believe in helping. However, welfare should not be a way of life for anyone capable of holding a job. The place where my husband works is always looking for people. When the men find out they have to get dirty, use a shovel, or work more than two days straight, they either don’t take the job or quit. The company starts their laborers out at $18 an hour plus benefits. You don’t live in this area or you would know what I’m saying was true. By the way, I was raised on welfare. My father would not work. Could have, but wouldn’t. My brother is almost 50 and is an excellent brick mason. Won’t work. My nephew is 26. Won’t work. Unfortunately this is a pattern for so many around here. And I will be so bold as to say—-the government needs to put a halt to it. When someone’s house burns, I am the first to take clothing and household items. I donate money to those who are having medical treatments they can’t afford. People who do not have burial insurance get a donation from me for their funeral. I do this because I believe it is the right thing to do. I don’t think keeping people up from the time they are conceived until the time they die is my responsibility or anyone else’s. There should not be one-seventh of our national population on food stamps. Minimum wage pays more than food stamps and in some cases, they people can still get food stamps.

          • Granny Mae

            Sandra,

            God bless you sister. We think alike. I too am all for helping those in need and all for those that really do get in a bind and need a hand up. I am not for long term welfare ! There are also abuses of social security and SSI. I know of many of them but good luck getting anything done about it. These programs are set up to dole out not to clean up any loop holes in the program !

          • barbm

            so you’re too proud to work at mickey d’s but not too proud to take a hand-out? if you’re in school and trying to help yourself, i have no problem with giving you a hand up. i’m sick to death of giving hand outs to deadbeats who are nothing but prostitutes who make their money by spreading their legs for any tom, dick, or harry who will have them for a few minutes so they can have more babies that will keep them on welfare until they’re eligible for social security into which they never paid a dime. sorry for the run-on sentyence, but i’m upset about all this crap. they want to take away s.s. so those women can over-populate the earth. and don’t give me that crap about how their religion says they can’t use birth control. no religion says you should have sex with somebody other than your husband, so just hold an aspirin between your knees. if you’re married and catholic, use the rhythm method. my parents did it for 5 years back in the 40s when there was no pill.

      • Granny Mae

        brothergene,

        I don’t know where you are from but it sounds like you have succeeded in pulling yourself up by your boot straps. Good for you and I know what it is like to work hard to do the same thing as I have done it, but I will tell you that where I recently came from there was a lot of jobs of all kinds and they paid very well. Many of them in the space industry. You can get a job with them just pushing a broom and emptying trash and get paid a starting wage of $12 to $14.00 an hour. However there was a whole area of town that was nothing but rundown housing filled with drugs. Sellers and users. They don’t want to improve themselves , many have had the chance but never come out into the light. It isn’t the job of the government to find them jobs over and over again, it is their job and commitment to themselves to do it. It isn’t the job of anyone else to hold their hands and feel sorry for them and baby them along so they can find a job. It is up to them. I have seen men and women trade their food stamps for drugs over and over , while their kids sit home with nothing to eat. I don’t cut drug dealers or users any slack what so ever. It is a choice and it is their choice. Most of these people could have a lot better chance in life if they would only stay in school and get their education.

    • Granny Mae

      sandra,

      You are absolutely right and I have seen it with my own eyes ! I hate to say it but I believe that there is an agenda in the works to use welfare and government assistantce programs to bankrupt this country, and they are doing it. It is the fastest way to force us into the new world order ! That is one of the reasons the boarder has not been closed. The more people coming here the more money distributed and the more votes for the left. Just my opinion !

      • sandra

        Love ya, Granny Mae. You are a wise woman.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Granny Mae,
        Left you another note on the survival kit, check it out.

        • Granny Mae

          Joe H.

          Thanks. I checked it out and that is some good advice ! I never would have thought about it ! Talk about keep your powder dry, now we can keep our matches dry ! LOL ! Love it, thanks again smarty pants ! LOL !

      • Ted Crawford

        You are right on the money Granny Mae! It is a stratege put foward in 1966 by two socialogist from Columbia University named Richard Cloward and Frances Piven. It’s taken from an artical published in The Nation titled “The Weight of the poor: A Stratege to End Poverty”.
        The main theme is to destroy Capitalism by overloading all the entitlement programs!

  • http://personalliberty.com pOFF

    THE RICH GET RICHER AND THE POOR GET POORER…THE MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE WHO WORK TO MAKE A LIVING ARE THE ONES WHO GET NOTHING…NO TAX BREAKS, NO PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, NOTHING

    • sandra

      Amen!!!!!!

  • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

    If the socialist have never started Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid just think how much richer our nation would be, how much lower health insurance would be. It would have continued the tradition of children taking care of the parents in their old age (like so many of us do anyway).

    • sandra

      Hi, In the beginning, Social Security was nothing more than a pyramid scheme. Life expectancy was only 67 or 68; so, after having paid into it for 40-50 years, a person was to only benefit from it for a few years. It was meant to create a surplus for the government. Now life expectancy is at 78. More people are getting SS for a longer time. Also, I believe we can lay some of the blame on greed of some doctors. Many older people are on soooooo many drugs and have soooooo many appointments that Medicare simply can’t pay for all of it. Many older people seem to like the attention they get when going to the doctor’s offices simply because they have nothing else to do. It is much the same for some on Medicaid—–they really abuse it. I have seen this so much in the area where I live. I am 49 and can honestly say that I don’t think I should have to pay for other’s bills. I don’t mind paying taxes, but EVERYBODY should pay their fair share. Just because someone doesn’t want to work, doesn’t mean I am obligated to give them womb to tomb coverage.

      • 45caliber

        sandra:

        In the beginning, SS was a “pay-as-you-go” thing. You paid in and what you paid in drew interest. When you retired, you received the interest on what was built up for you. If you paid five years, you got a lot less than someone who paid 40 years. But too much money was building up too fast because those paying it (like me) were young. The politicians simply couldn’t stand for that so they stopped the interest. That’s when it became a pyramid scheme. Then they started taking all the money left over each year and issuing worthless money market bonds to take its place. They then discovered that they needed to pay some interest on the bonds so they did away with that too.

        Actually, I think the real problem is not the fact that enough money isn’t coming in. I think it is the fact that they don’t have as much money as they want to spend on something else first. And if they take it out for their special project not enough is left for the retirees.

      • barbm

        medicare is not free either. i pay a monthly premium, a yearly deductible, and 20% of all doctor visits, lab work, xrays, and mamograms.

        • sandra

          Hi, barbM, No nothing is free for those who will work. I am of the mind that a person who has paid into the SS and Medicare fund for their working lives, should be taken care of. End of story. There should be no fees like you mentioned. Our elderly and infirm paid their dues. It is not like getting welfare on and on and never having paid for anything.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        sandra,
        If the goverment had kept their filthy hands off of it, it would be solvent for at least another 50 years!!

    • brothergene

      Social Security is a program where workers pay into an account that they draw upon when they retire. (There are those that are exempt from SS, notably railroad and maritime workers) FICA payments are not taxes but deposits into your SS account. You can get a statement from the Social Security Administration that explains your deposits and the benefits you are due. This is your money, not the government’s. The Federal Government has been “borrowing” from the Social Security Trust Fund for many years but especially during the “W” administration, when it along with China financed the government paying for rich folks’ tax cuts. This money is supposed to be paid back with interest along with the rest of the national debt.
      If the government defaults on this debt, it will mean disaster for a whole generation of older Americans.

  • 45caliber

    I’ve got to admit it – Oblama was right on cutting these two things. They already have more housing, etc. than is needed without creating more on welfare so most is going to illegals as it is. And why should I be paying someone else’s fuel bill so he/she can have more money to run around on? I already have enough problem paying my own.

    • karolyn

      45 – Have you not heard of old people freezing to death in their apartments in places like Chicago?

      • Mick

        karolyn says:
        February 17, 2011 at 7:19 am
        45 – Have you not heard of old people freezing to death in their apartments in places like Chicago?
        *************************************************
        karolyn …

        Yes I heard about it and think it’s absolutely outrageous .
        While the young able bodies and blood sucking baby machines collect just because of their know how to manipulate and bleed the system dry the elderly which most of them worked all of their lives are being punished and neglected, you damn straight I am for helping those poor old folks but I ll’ be damned if I will pay for the lazy immoral opportunist pieces of crap and encourage their fraudulent behavior………

        • sandra

          Mick, Very well said. Icompletely agree.

  • barbm

    we should not be helping anybody who is able-bodied. we should help the legal elderly, the legal infirm, and children. helping the parents should not be part of it. anybody getting any type of entitlement should have to pass a drug test to qualify. if they don’t pass, the children should be removed from the home and all aid to parents stopped immediately. and, social security is NOT an entlement, it’s an investment paid for by the recipient.

    • sandra

      I completely agree.

  • jopa

    Talk about welfare or is it good business.The gas and oil companies gave $25 million dollars to 2010 congressional candidates but in return received a $40 bilion tax break.That revenue lost has to be made up by the little guy.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    barbm>>>>>>You are so right!!!!

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