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Obama's Defeat Starts Now

June 21, 2012 by  

Two weeks ago, Wayne Allyn Root predicted a landslide loss for Barack Obama. Now, Root has strategic advice for Mitt Romney to lock down that victory right away. Root recommends a strategy that nullifies Obama’s Latino advantage, energizes the Tea Party vote and guarantees Florida for the GOP.

 

Wayne Allyn Root

Wayne Allyn Root is one of America's leading Libertarian-conservative authors. Wayne's new book is The Murder of the Middle Class Wayne is a Capitalist Evangelist, serial entrepreneur, conservative media commentator, and proud champion of the middle class. He is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee and Fox News regular. Follow Wayne on Twitter and visit Wayne's web site: www.ROOTforAmerica.com

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  • Nottakenyan

    America cannot afford another four years of the dictator from Kenya!!!

    • SJJolly

      “… dictator from Keyna” Hell-o, the Religious Hard-Right thinks he’s the Anti-Christ. (Just not at all competent at it).

      • common sense

        The Anti Intelligent Right….LOL…

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        No I for one expect the anti-Christ to fulfill the prophecy in the book of Daniel and be of the people who destroyed the Temple in 70 AD, the Romans. The document signed in 1957 that ratified the European Common Market (The EU today!) was titled the “Treaty of Rome”! If you would like to see their future plans, pop up the “Club of Rome” on the web and happy reading, you’ll not run out of material! I believe he will be a European Blueblood with a Caligula mind-set. Those people truly do exist and Hollywood and the far-left are full of them, little effeminate males with that nose up in the air and thinkin’ themselves to be on some kinda pedestal so far above the rest of us peasants that they just NATURALLY think of themselves as deity. You know kinda like Qu… I mean Deer! LOL!!!
        O’s days are numbered and Wayne is right, a Rubio annoucement would be the ku de gra, and O is reading the handwritin’ on da wall! It resembles Hispanic gang graffiti! LOL!!! Why you think our beloved POTUS has been so thin skinned here as of late?! LOL!!!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I don’t believe obummer IS the anti-christ but I DO believe that he works directly for him! He may be the one who ushers in the anti-christ! He IS evil!

      • Flashy

        Must suck to be a christian and always dreading the doom and gloom…. tell me, the 75% of people who aren’t of the sect..are we all doomed to hell and damnation?

      • Rick

        I do not know about which Christians Flashy is talking that are dreading doom and gloom. Could you be more specific as to the doom and gloom you mean? I do not know of any specific number who are not of the sect(?), but not all are doomed. You need to read the Bible (KJV) as something other than a piece of literature.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You haven’t a clue what the meaning of Anti Christ is. O could just be the little anti christ, the little man on a big ego trip who wants to usurp the place of Christ.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Flashy, I don’t spend any time worrying about the doom and gloom. That’s for non believers, like you! I know where I’ll end up!

      • carrobin

        Anybody who’s read Revelation knows that George W. Bush was the Antichrist, and Cheney was Beelzebub.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        No. it’s REALLY gonna SUCK bein’ you Flushdouche! If you dont ask Jesus into your heart and repent, God’s Holy Word says that you’re going to a place where the worm dieth NOT and the fire is not QUENCHED!!! (Mark 9:48!)
        No carrobin, but NOT far off! LOL!!! With Rummy as Skeletor! LOL!!!

      • BunRoe

        What ALL you nim-nods don’t understand is your so-called anti-christ will not stick out like a sore thumb nor will his urchins who might give you advance notice of his (her?) coming.. If it happens it will not be a black or white, yes or no.. Dem or Pub.. It will be totally unexpected. This person will convince you of his intentions because it will be associated with your goals, your ideals.. He will rid the nation (if not the entire world) of famine and bring a peace upon the planet. You will not see through him because he will not reveal himself… then as everyone settles down into his web, there will be opposition most likely from what will be described as religious fanatics.. It will trickle at first but then as others begin to notice that things aren’t really what they seem, it will escalate then the A.C. will declare war on them as the majority of the nation (or even the world) rallies behind him, destroying the protesters en masse THEN in the aftermath, the A.C. will proclaim himself GOD which will awaken the sleepers and the sheeple as they look for another savior. Declaring anyone an A.C. who are or seem to be blatant is pathetic.. If and when he comes, no one will be looking but everyone will witness his ‘miracles’ that will (for a season) bring us from the edge of our own destruction. Anybody who won’t believe this, just keep on finger pointing until you get it right.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        Is that a manatee on Wayne’s tie?! LOL!!! He’s gotta be honorable mention on Sin City’s social page’s best dressed list! LOL!!! SELL WAYNE, SELL, you SOB you! LOL!!!

      • Vigilant

        carrobin says, “Anybody who’s read Revelation knows that George W. Bush was the Antichrist, and Cheney was Beelzebub.”

        carrobin’s ignorance on display. It’s obvious YOU have not read Revelations. Nowhere in that work does it characterize the AntiChrist as the two you menttion.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        BunRoe, LOL!!! If you’ve ever heard of Tex Marrs,http://www.texemarrs.com/, He’s an Evangelical preacher of sorts outta TX. He was also a fighter pilot during the Vietnam conflict. Well anyway, I don’t know if he still holds to the belief or not but back in the 90′s during the Clinton administration he claimed that Hillary was the anti-Christ and that the other female staffers, Reno, Shalala, Albright, etc. were all a coven of Lezbo witches! LOL!!! A bunch of rug munchin’ bowling alley female bikers! LOL!!! God’s Holy Word clearly states that it will be a man who will forsake the use of women and the religion of his fathers! (Dan. 11:37)

    • dave

      What America cannot afford is more racist rhetoric. Obama is AMERICAN… are you? Tell me the truth.. IF McCain had been elected instead… WOULD YOU BE TRYING TO GET HIM OUT OF OFFICE SINCE HE ACTUALLY IS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN? That’s right, born in a Panamanian hospital, not a military base in Panama. Is it really about where he was born ? Would you impeach McCain since he is not a citizen or would you just shut your mouth since he is white?

      The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me.
      What we cannot afford is a Mitt Romney in the white house destroying us like George W. Bush did. (sorry George Senior, I know you tried to give the boy morals that were real, you just failed and now we are paying for it every day and blaming the black guy instead). ten trillion in debit from George Bush and I bet you blame that on Obama too? Get real, get a life. The problem with Obama is that our wonderful racist republican congress refuses to back him and for all the excuses it is because he happens to have a little more melanin in his skin than you white folks do. You make me sick.

      Obama was rightfully and fairly elected by the MAJORITY in this country. Maybe what you don’t like is that you are the minority (meaning white racist pukes that haven’t the balls to stand up and say “ok I don’t like him because he’s black”) Instead you complain about birth which is American by the way. You complain about him doing something no other president did… that,s right he actually kept a promise and reformed insurance to give 20 million more of our kids the ability to have a doctor look at and then fix a problem with them. Enough about this nonsense of “oohhhh they can go to emergency rooms…. have you ever been to one. ???? They don’t fix anything but broken bones in an emergency room…
      by the way I am sadly and sorrowfully a white guy too. I just am ashamed of what white people write claiming the moral high ground when in fact the depths of ignorance and prejudice is showing to be as deep and bad as it ever was. God help you.

      • slapjack

        All you have to do is L@@K in your mirror and see STUPID everyday.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        YOUR stupidity amazes ME! You have fallen for every single bit of the propaganda! They played the race card and you grabbed it! The republicans aren’t racist, they just disagree. Every time someone disagrees with obummer they are labeled a racist and you are too dumb to see it! At least argue the issues rather than resorting to stupid propaganda. The whole racist thing was put out to divide people. Just like the war on women. Neither side really has a war on women but it makes a great sound bite. The same goes with the war on the “rich”, which is really funny because the ones complaining about the “rich” are rich themselves. All of it is to divide the people, to create strife, to find someone else to blame so that we won’t look at the ones who are truly to blame! You have fallen for it hook, line and sinker! WAKE UP!!!

      • Maryland Freestater

        Sir, I’m also a ‘white’ guy (sadly, Polish does not come as a separate race despite our obvious superiority:-{) !) and I totally disagree with you re Obamsky’s paint job. The man is a dick (just like the CNBC ‘Morning Joe’ commentator said) and he’s not black – he’s RED! RED as in Lenin, Stalin, krasny.

        I would like to see this simpering dupa out of the White House because he’s deliberately and systematically tearing down what remains of our country. Sure, Bush et al did a lot of crappy things – but they seemed to lack the ruthlessness of the ‘Messiah’. For some obviously deep-seated reason, Obama feels compelled to screw up the country even more than it already is. Having read ‘Roots of Obama’s Rage’, I’m inclined to believe the book.

        Stop defending the indefensible – you ‘liberals’ need to open your eyes or quit being in denial about him: he’s the culmination of a multi-generational plan (plot?) to change America into a socialist European country. Even Europeans are terrified at the prospect of a Socialist USA because simply look how bad the Euro-economy is doing.

        Quit slamming rightwingers for wanting Obama out so bad – and get it thru your CPU that Obama is NOT GOOD for anything except dog-catcher in Fumbuck, Fredonia. Go out and get politically involved (I did – joined the Maryland Libertarian Party) rather than sit around bitching.

      • Gracie

        Dave, AMERICA WAKE UP!!!! Our Country is broken!!!!! It is not going to be fixed by a Muslim Black with the title that he doesn’t deserve, (President). The President of the United States should represent the legal People of the United States regardless of race, creed or color. “NOT” illegals who are living in our Country illegally. This so called President is not doing what is “RIGHT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE” I voted for Obama because of his lies of “HOPE AND CHANGE” for America. I did not realize that his change was to give everyone living here illegally benefits that are causing cuts in benefits to our Senior Citizens, our Children and all others affected by his idiot sounding, preaching, “RIGHTS FOR ILLEGALS” Illegals, should have no “RIGHTS” in America. Pleeeze give me a break!!!! What about the “RIGHTS FOR TRUE AMERICAN CITIZENS????

      • http://liberty Tony

        To Dave:
        All i can say to that is AMEN!!

      • Power To The People

        The cats out of the bag……race has been raised…..now we know the libs are scared! Kool Aid over load for my friend here.

      • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

        Hey, Dude, John McCain is an AMERICAN Hero who was born in an AMERICAN hospital that was located on an AMERCAN Naval base in Panama. What rock did your idiol, El Supremo Obummer crawl out from under? Oops, I shouldn’t have said that, what I meant to say was where did El Supremo spring from?

        I think I know why his grades from his time spent in the Universities haven’t been released, they would reveal just how incompetent he really is.

        GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

      • alicia

        Dave, I love the way you think. I am a fifth generation hispanic women in business 31 years. And I could give a rats ass about Rubio, he is whiter than white.

        • Gracie

          Are you legal??????

      • Sheila Kobs

        Dave, you are correct. The Right is existing on conspiracy theories that are so outrageous that no one would believe them in a science fiction movie. Mitt Romney has been trying to buy the Presidency for years and now he has big money to help him. I, for one, am going to volunteer more the the Democratic Party than I ever have in the past.

      • Brian

        Obviously Dave, you have no idea what you are talking about. McCain was born in Panama, yes. He was born to American parents (both of them) and was delivered by a Navy doctor in a small clinic on the sub base (if I recall correctly).

        The country in which you are born is only part of the equation.

        I also was born in Panama, to American parents. My father was in the Air Force at the time stationed there. I WAS born in a Panamanian Hospital (Gorgas in Balboa). However, I am an American citizen due to the fact that I was born to American parents who were out of the country doing the bidding of the Nation as was McCain.

        BTW, International law says the baby generally takes on the
        nationality of the father when they are born out of country.

      • Brian

        Oh, and Dave, I supported Hermain Cain from the start. I think he would have made a fine president.

      • Eddie G.

        Dave, I don’t care if the POTUS is white,black,green,yellow,or the purple people eater, but I do care if he can do the job he’s sworn to do. Oboy has demonstrated he has an incredible competence for ignoring the Constitution and has done a great job in doing so. Are you truly happy with that? Do you know what socialized health care is? You have shown you do not. Are you living better than you were 4 years ago? Probably if you’re a food stamp and unemployment recipient smugly living out my taxpayer’s wallet with your lack of pride and work ethic. If employed,are you satisfied knowing your tax dollars will go to pay for health care of a privileged few? Are you truly happy with the current cost of living and $4 plus gas? No,you can’t blame Bush,that’s shopworn and he’s been out of office for 4 years which leaves your Messiah totally responsible for the current state of affairs in this country. I can say this, Bush goofed giving us the Office of Homeland Security which was a knee jerk political reaction to 9/11. Nice gesture but on the flip side team Obama/Napolitano have corrupted it and I wished Bush would’ve never created it. Overall our government stinks,the POTUS is a fraud,the DOJ is a farce,The EPA is a nuisance,the Depts of Energy and Education need to be junked along with all other useless alphabet soup fed agencies. The fault lies not so much in the respective political parties as it does with brain dead voters like yourself who parrot the media who’ve brainwashed you to their liking leaving you look like a horse’s ass when entering your ignorant noise in forums like this one. Congratulations, Mr. Horse’s Ass! How’s that Hopey Changey thing working out for you so far?

        • Steve L.

          You are everthing you claim the others to be . Its congresses fault and your too stupid to see that so you blame everything on Obama. You and your kind tell everyone to stop looking to the government for a hand out but you blame them for everything thats wrong. You and the rest who stood by while chaney and bush crapped all over the constitution and you will go vote for the same losers who are responsible for this mess because your just ignorant and can’t help it.

      • Palin16

        dave, you are wrong about McCain’s birthplace. He was indeed born in a hospital in the Panama Canal Zone, which at the time was an American Territory. I personally traveled to Panama this past February with a Panamanian lady who was born in the same hospital as McCain and she can verify the location was within the Canal Zone. I also went on a jungle boat tour to Lake Gatun and the tour operator also pointed out the sight of the former hospital. BTW, he also pointed out the prison where Generalissimo Noreiga is serving a 400 year sentence.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Sheila Kobs, who are those of the “Right” that you are so afraid of? Start naming names as they must have an identity that is corporeal. Otherwise those supposed “Right” are a figment of your imagination.

      • http://yahoo.com joeyusi@yahoo.com

        This is for Nancy, the red neck, are you also a teabagger? who could never recognized what is right from wrong and always trying to push your ideology no matter what.The gop in congress have a wholesale rejection on every policy of the Obama administration, that is why the bush and the republican mess could not be cleaned up.

      • moonbeam

        Dave, for your own sake, put down the kool aid and step away. It’s frying your brain!

        He is American? Really? Then, where’s his birth certificate? No, I don’t mean the photoshop one where the numbers don’t jibe with the rest that were born that day. I mean his REAL birth certificate like the one ALL natural born Americans have. He doesn’t even have a social security number. The one he is sporting doesn’t pass the eVerify smell test and belongs to somebody else in a city obooboo never lived in. Look it up!

        The evidence against him is there for all to see if folks would only do their due diligence.

      • http://gravatar.com/wildruff60 wildruff60

        I quote Cheech and Chong—-”Daves Not HERE!”

      • tk

        McCain may not have been born on US soil but his parents were US citizens and that makes him A Citizen. Obama parents were not citizens; Hios mother was to young to pass on citizen rights — so for him it is where he was born (it makes no difference if he is black or white or green). At this point in time it makes no difference because he has been the president for almost four years — what are birthers going to do — undo the last four years?
        That would be rediculous.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        Still no reply Gracie?! LOL!!!
        TSgt. Wilch, SALUTE!!! Give ‘em HELL airman! LOL!!!

      • JeffH

        wildruff60, WHO? It’s Dave! Dave’s not here! :) excellant!

      • Jim

        Dave — What reason do you have to believe O is American? He was born a bastard, raised Muslim and doesn’t know crap about the real USA….

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        joeyusi@yahoo.com, go back to school! Come back when you can write something that people can understand!!! Good grief! Talk about rednecks!!!

      • J.D.

        dave my complaint about birth would be the same for any adult (18 years of age and older in America) who chose to give up their citizenship. Mr Obama attended College as a foreign student in the United States. Thereby giving up any right he may have had to citizenship. He was an adult and had every right to make whatever decision he chose. He obviously chose to be foreign. I do object to his wanting to change his mind now after stealing the money from me and my children to attend college. This has nothing to do with race. Mr Obama is as much white as he is non-white. Not sure what term you would feel is appropriate to use for his race. If it helps you I am non white but look white. So like Mr Obama I am of one race but appear of another. He is half white. For Steve L. wow you are talking about 20 percent of the population of America and saying they are the majority. I thought it took over 50 percent to be a majority but college doesnt teach what it did in the past. Could be part of that new math. You need to talk to the Demiocratic controlled congress that Obama had before he chose to spent his capital on the health care bill. It appears from the voting after that bill was approved that the majority of the voters at least were not happy with that action. Could just be me but it sure looked like a lot of people were unhappy with that since a large number of those who voted for that legislation were voted out of office on nothing other than the fact they voted for it. What was it you said about blocking the democratic process. Now those members of congress who were elected by the same voters who voted for Mr Obama 2 years earlier changed their minds. Is it just me or does your argument not make sense unless it get you what you want.

        • Steve L.

          Its you

      • Eline

        Dave, you are wrong about not liking Obama because he is black. That has nothing to do with it. If he was a good president we would like him just fine. He has a beautiful smile and is a very good speaker but he just stretches things somuch and we cannot believe him anymore. He is leading this nation into socialism as fast as him and George Soros can get us there. It is his policies we object to but a lot of people are too dumb to see it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

        What a coincidence that a voice of reason and truth has the same name as me. What bothers conservatives the most is the truth because the truth makes them look bad, greedy, short-sighted. racist, homophobic. Thes religious fundamentalists are just laughable with all their anti- christ mumbo jumbo superstition and conspiracy theories. They are indeed whacko and 500 years ago their ancestors had slaves, thought the earth was the center of the universe and thought if you sailed too far you’d fall off the edge of the earth. We PROGRESSIVES have advanced beyond such nonsense while those on the right stubbornly hold on to the superstitions and mistakes of the past. SCIENCE, COMPASSION, FORESIGHT, paying attention to the failed policies of Reagan and GW, and putting OTHERS needs before your own are the things that will carry us successfully into the future

        • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

          DD, you call yourself a PROGRESSIVE because you say and feel that the way the United States treats its people. I believe that a Progressive is someone that think the world owes them a living. Well, Sir, if people would get up off their fat behinds and stop complaining. They will have the same chance as everybody else in make something of themselves: Either they will make it or fall flat on their faces. I they do they need to get back up an try again.

          I am not rich but Sir, what I have got I have earned it through hard work not from Governmental handouts.

          Sir, I dedicated most of my adult life defending your rights to do and think the way you do; and I’ll go to my grave defending those right. (I took an oath December 20, 1963 to ‘Defend the Constitution against all Enemies Foreign and Domestic.’) that oath wasn’t for just my initial enlistment it WAS for the rest of my life.

          So, Sir, before you slander those that have put the lives on hold (sometimes forever) and those that believe in working for the things they have: READ THE CONSTITUTION and any other matteral that will inform you on how we feel.

          GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

          • Eric Jones

            With all due respect TSgt Wilch you seem to have trouble idenifying the ACTUAL threat to this country the 1% of sociaty that buys the politicans and control ther decisions that buys main-stream media and tells them what to report and what to ignore that crush small and medium buesness under ther heel whilr spouting the mythical “free market” that oppresess entire ethnic/relegus groups yet claim that THEY are under attack that are even as i type this raking MORE PROFIT THEN BEFORE THE 2008 CRASH yet have the GAUL to complain that theyre being “choked by goverment restrictions” you swore to defend our rights? well then LACE EM UP SOLDIER ITS TIME TO GO TO WAR.

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            Sir, the so-called 1% that buy and sell Lawmakers are the Unions who use the dues that are collected under the threat of losing your job if you don’t join, the Banker that uses the money collected from interest on loans, the CEO and the Board of Directors that use a portion the money earned through the sale of their Compys goods and services to buy those Lawmakers. This is done all in the name of keeping their jobs through the regs and laws that those Lawmakers shove down our throats.

            I feel that inorder to stop this thievery is to clean things up is to vote new people in. I know that some people will not get out and vote because they don’t want to lose their welfare check, food stamps or any other handouts the Big Brother gives them.

            We need people that believe in the Consitution and all the Rights that I and others like me have dedicated our lives in defending. Oh, I also believe that this idiot in the Oval Office does not believe in the Constitution. He hates what the United States stand for.

          • Eric Jones

            Sir you are oviousley been bombareded with to much republican propaganda and as such have lost touch with reality so im going to say this and never contact you again unless you contact me first unions exist because people with commen sence realized that if they took ther complaints to ther employer seperatley theyde be ignored but together they had power welfare foodstamps etc are last resorts for people who are disabled or due to capitilisms frequent downturns cant find a good paying jobs and thankfulley all the members of the goverment arnet as devoted followers of charles darwin as you and if you can sit by and watch your fellow americans starve and lose ther homes and not feel sympathey then quite frankley millitarey service or not you sir are more of a un-american then obama will ever be.

          • JD

            OK we can play republican propaganda vs democrat propoganda all day, This is exactly what the powers that be want you to argue about. Unions when they were created were for the very facts you stated. Today’s union is nothing but another big business, Take a look at the union leaders. when was the last time they worked for a living like the union members and I dont mean for a day or so I mean their living was from that job not the 300,000 a year job as union leader. When was the last time the union got new manufacturing jobs in the US? How many jobs have left because of union demands? Not sure if you were making a joke about common sense since it does seem to be so uncommon today or if you thought that was how to spell it. If only those who had worked for it were actually disabled. Out doing back flips on a jet ski is not my idea of disabled. Driving up to the welfare office in a new cadillac etc. Being on welfare from the day you turn 18 for life. No attempt at a job. Forget good paying jobs, go to work. Many of us are working two or more jobs. Working at lousy hours, wages etc to make ends meet. We do not have a problem with help out those who are trying to make it we are getting tired of those who are using us. Look at the percentage of those on welfare who had parents, grandparents, great grandparents on welfare. They never try to get off because they found out how to use the system. These are the people the Tsgt is and was speaking about. I believe in helping my fellow american who are willing to help themselves. I have found government is the last resort. Most of the homeless, foodless, jobless people I see getting help where I live are not getting it from the government because they dont know how to work the system. They are getting from the local community, the churches and food shelfs, etc. This is where I am willing to help people since I can truely see which one need help and which ones are ripping me off.

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            Thanks, JD, you said it better than I could ever. I’m not an educated man I spent most of my adult life defending this wonderful country. First in the Army (19 yrs) than finished up in the Idaho Air Guard (almost 8 years). However, I did graduate from BSU with an AA in Food Service Technology.

            Oh, I have worked for several companies that did have unions and those union controlled companies were a joke. If you had a work-related problem the so-called union just made the problem worse BECAUSE of the regs that you had to abide by. THE GOVERNMENT-RELATED UNIONS WERE THE WORST TO WORK WITH! Alot of time those unions were controlled by the head honcho of the company or hospital and they just screwed you over. THEY WERE OUT FOR THEMSELVES OR JUST TO KEEP THE BOSS HAPPY!

            Oh, there are some unions that do what they were formed to do, but they are few and far between.

          • Eric Jones

            I never said it had to be the federal goverment im perfectly fine with state or city goverments helping as long as someone does and congradulations for doing your part we truely need more like you. p.s for the record im not a democrat im a candidate for the party for socialism and liberation.

          • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

            Eric….. You are right with your response to how so many on the right can’t see past the wording so they believe what they are told. It is so hard to talk with people who see only what they want to see so we should really pick and choose who we respond to because they will not want to understand any points of view other than their programmed ones. This is the nature of Tea and the GOP in general. It is a waste of time to do your own research when it is so much easier to just let your leaders think for you, them- not you Eric. Enjoy your day.

          • Eric Jones

            Thank you its nice to know im not alone here. take care now.

          • macgyver1948

            You are very welcome Eric… Just continue to do your own research and, especially, thinking for yourself. Never just take the word of any party, even the one you more closely align yourself with… :-)

          • Eric Jones

            You know what? i will thanks for the advice.

      • gunner48

        Here We go AGAIN! Now whitey is saying we are prejudice, and Racist Biggots….What some say something your liberal ass didnt like. Moral Ground This! Were you breath!

      • Cheerio

        Bunroe…..this is how it is, may not right now but people are delusional in thinking any “man” of Gov./ or other will come in and rescue them. People are being deceived left and right, does not matter when, or who it is how and what to do before and after.
        For everyone else we can’t get the hardcore atheist to see, so we should not waste time with verbal jabs and attacks, they don’t care. A family member of mine is so enthralled and blinded by how socialism is good and will save us, no matter what is said, these have to find out on their own.
        We should not be fighting amongst ourselves as well, the opposition forces are well organized we are just putting our heads together. If we don’t all come under “God” in the right way, repentance, humility, forgiveness, prayer and following commandments we are no better off.

        • macgyver1948

          Bunroe – I am only asking, curious. You say “A family member of mine is so enthralled and blinded by how socialism is good and will save us, no matter what is said, these have to find out on their own. “.

          My question is “does your relative say “socialism” or are you labeling what your family member says as that?

          The pure and simple definition of Socialism is, per the dictionaries, “social organization based on government control of the production and distribution of goods”.

          America, since its beginnings, as the USA, has been somewhat that with its laws and regulations. And there are different levels and kinds of socialisms in history. The very far right group, for example, Hitler’s Nazism, was a very socialistic society and we here in the US should never allow us to go any where near that far right. We should fight against any who want to go that far right as we should fight against any that might go that far left toward Communism or even try to get near either of those.

          As for the rest of what you say I agree but with a slight difference. I am very much with God even though I am not Christian in any way. I feel what we must have and continue to strive for as the Founding Fathers did, is not any particular religion but for living our lives morally. As Americans it should never matter what the other guy’s religion is, or even if he/she has none. Americanism should be about respecting the rights and beliefs or others just as much as we would like for our own. There is no one (kind or otherwise) right religion or ways of relating to God. World history shows the evil in the thinking there is in “only our ways of relating to God are right for all”. For example, that is the extreme jihadists way and it is a way or method of certain established religions here in the US. Jihad is Jihad. It does not matter what language or religion who uses it. If you remember the Crusades, that was a Jihad by the Church.

          So, as Americans we have to be careful how we deal out religion in our country. To each his/her own faith. No religion should dictate or try to influence law making in a free society. That is the reason for “Freedom Of Religion” and the NEED for “Separation Of Church And State”. The Founders were very wise but I wonder what is happening in our country since them.

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            Sir(?) where in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independance does it say any thing about the Separation of Church and State? I have before me on my dest and I for the love of me can not find that statement. All I have been able to find is the one about Freedom of Religion. So, Sir(?), please show me the passage.

          • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

            SIR(?) John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.) … Just so we have a clear understanding since you seem to have a problem understanding me. I never say “Separation of Church and State” is in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence. Never have I said that. I do, however, say “Separation of Church and State” so very clearly needs to be there along with Freedom Of Religion. IT needs to be added. So I hope you enjoyed your journey. I say it needs to be there because there are so many in our free and liberated country who think they can impose their particular religious beliefs on others and impale those particular beliefs into law.

            The Founders wanted morality to guide us all. They specifically did not want any particular religion to deny any who weren’t of a particular religion. That was even though many of the Founders were of some form of Christianity or another. It would not be FREEDOM OF RELIGION if we infuse into law what your religion says for you and it is not part of my religion. Do that and we would have what King George felt he could insist on, only his ways of Religion for all his subjects.

            There is just too much of that kind of UN-Americanism going on today so I feel “”Separation of Church and State” so very clearly needs to be there along with Freedom Of Religion.” in our Constitution. I feel neither religions nor Government should rule one another unless one breaks the law. The Founders felt that way too. I personally feel if any religious organization tries to inflict its beliefs into law making, or government in any way, that religious organization should lose its tax exempt status and be treated as any corporation.

            It goes along with individual freedom and it is a needed “less government” thing as well, for those of us who want less government control over our lives. Do you get it now after your searching for nothing? Thank you so much for bringing it up… :-)…

      • http://yahoo joyce

        McCain is a natural born citizen because he was born to two U.S. citizens as is required by the constitution his parents were stationed in panama. all military bases have hospitals so i sure he was born in that hospital. Obama is not a natural born citizen his mother was American but his father is from Kenya and not an American citizen which makes him not eligible to be president. you need to study the constitution and also the federalist papers and maybe you should educate yourself.

        • Steve L.

          Yeah, if that was true the republicans, and all those donors would have just let him win anyway,right. You are truly a boy genius

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            SL, according to your logic my children and now my grandchildren are not citizens because their Mother (Japanese) was not a citizen an the time of their birth she is now but not then. She is more American than most Americans will ever be; she chose to come here and earn her Citizenship.

            As too, John McCain he is a natural born citizen even though he was born in Panama. He was born on a US Naval Base where his father was stationed in a US Naval Hospital.

            US COMBAT VET: Vietnam ’68-’69, Doorgunner 1st Cavalry Div (AM), Desert Storm ’91. Now a Retired (30+) NCO.

          • http://www.facebook.com/steve.lohrstorfer Steve Lohrstorfer

            My ‘logic’ is in response to weather President Obama is eligible to be Presedent. If anyone out there thinks that McCain, the republican party, the teabaggers, the donors of millions of dollars, would let Obama win the election if they could PROVE he wasn’t they NEVER would have let him win. They would be rolling out the big evidence, calling for impeachment,all of it right now. This is people who only support democracy if their candidate wins,so instead they attack the President, tear down this country and our enemies appreciate all their hard work

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            At least McCain was not a COTUS (Community Organizer) out of Mob Town USA. He was a War Hero, and some one who would never bow down to some idiot 2-bit dictator or even insult one of our allies by bowing improperly as he did to the Japanese Emperior. (He bowed to him as an underling and not as an equal) in otherwords he bowed too low.

            He has damn near gutted our defense (Oh, he and his cronies in the Senate are well on their way to doing it) and knifed our Veterans (BY CUTTING OUR BENEFITS. THE ONES WE EARNED BY PUTTING OUR LIVES ON HOLD) in the back all in the name of Balancing the Budget. (I ASK YOU WHAT BUDGET?).

          • http://www.facebook.com/steve.lohrstorfer Steve Lohrstorfer

            Thats right Mcain is a war hero. So go back and review what the republican party said about a war hero when he ran against bush in the primaries. How they completely trashed this guy, and his wife, even got vets to say he doesn’t support him. HE ALMOST LEFT THE PARTY TO BECOME A DEMOCRAT, Almost a total character asassination of a true war hero. And thats their same method of operation on the President. All they care about is their party and they play the vets and the religious right like a fiddle and screw em if they get in.

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            SL, I have been screwed more often, both in my Military career and as a Veteran by the Socialist (Oops, Democratic) Party then by the Republican Party. Under the Dems my unit had to pay to have some of our weapons chambered for 22 Long rifle so that we could maintain our weapons qualifications. However, when the Republicans took over we got better equipment and more ammo. As to my Veterans benefis they were frozen under the Dems more often than under the Repubs, I seem to get a raise every year that they were in power.

            Oh, I got a raise this year on my Military Retirement, SS, VA Disability (3.1%) and I believe that was do to politics. And I’m suppose to get another on in Jan (1.3%) but I won’t hold my breath because if the Dems retain power they’ll find some way to screw me again. This is just my opinion, howvere you can as other Active or Retired Military how they feel when their Government screws them in the way of pay and benefits.

            Oh by the way, now the DOD under this P wants the Active and Retired Veterans to pay more for the medical insurance. What about them paying more for the health insurance or even refusing their pay raise EVERY year for once. Also they could forego their insurance benefits once they are out of office and by their own. Fat chance they would do that!

          • http://www.facebook.com/steve.lohrstorfer Steve Lohrstorfer

            I don’t see what that has to do with weather Obama is eligible for president or what the republicans did to Mcain. And at least half the people on this page would tell you why are you looking for a raise from the government? see just another american looking for more handouts from govt.

        • macgyver1948

          Joice… You say “McCain is a natural born citizen because he was born to two U.S.” this is so true but he was not born on base and was born in a local hospital which makes no difference at all with his parents being American, no doubt.

          Obama has one American parent and that too is not in question. There is so much that says he was born in Hawaii and I see no point in an argument there either since neither of us can prove our stance but it is legally accepted that he is Hawaiian born. So if you cannot prove he wasn’t born in Hawaii are you also against the “You are innocent until proven guilty” factor when it comes to arrests too? I know most who are arrested are treated as though they are guilty until proven innocent so let’s not go there. I am only rhetorically asking what you believe about it. So for now if you can prove he wasn’t born in Hawaii and his mom is not American I would very much agree with you when you say “and not an American citizen which makes him not eligible to be president.”. I would want him out too.

          You also say, although it wasn’t to me, “you need to study the constitution and also the federalist papers and maybe you should educate yourself.”. I suggest you read and study the 14th Amendment to our Constitution, primarily Section 1.

          One natural parent is generally all we need to be an American but even if Obama was born in another country, with his mom being an American, you would have to go to the American Embassy there for the ruling and guess what most American Embassies would say about one natural born Parent.

          Think of this. So many times a foreigner married an American citizen. Some time it was just to stay here and many times it was for love and wanting to be together. If it is for love would you be against that too? It is not off the beat with only one of Obama;’s parents being an American.

          It always just sounds at though who have been told to hate Obama since way before he was elected President would hunt for any reason to destroy him.

          Here is a place to start if you like but just go to any site which shows the US Constitution.

          http://www.heritage.org/constitution#!/amendments/14/sections/1

          Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution
          Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

          Get over it already or know we wont get over how bush and past elected offivials have screwed our country so badly. The past is always with us and if we ignore it we will repeat even the evil.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Flashy you are the one who appears to be afraid of the gloom and doom. Believers in the God of the Bible have a blessed hope.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        He’ll have Karlolyn to keep him company Nadzieja, Think about it, an eternal honeymoon! Can ya smell the smoke?!!

    • Joseph Lundy

      That is a racist remark and I am highly offended as an African-American who had relatives to serve in the Armed Froces of this country.

    • cjh

      WOW!!!!!!!! I am lost for words……you people are pieces of work………i bet everyone on here are voting against their economic interest! sad day in america.

    • cjh

      Why so much hate against President Obama?? I bet you $10,000 that each and every one of you on this forum….economic interests align more with the Presidents than Mitt Romney’s . Wake up people…….stop harping on conspiracy theories…..WAKE UP….stop watching FAUX news for a change. You all seem to be filled with so much hate and you call yourselves christians. SAD SAD times in America. Let me ask you all one question….What has President Obama done to you that make you hate him so much? And dont give me any of the ideolog rhetoric……give me proof and be able to back it up. You all act like he is the devil. Were you all this angry when Bush and the GOP lied us into 2 unpaid wars and all we got were 4,300 dead soliders and thousands of mamed ones. Because of the deregulation of our banking system…..Bush’s and the GOPs polices caused a depression. I lost ALL of my 401K after working for 16yrs. and Im sure most of you did too. Why arent you mad at that? Why arent we mad at how CONgress gets affordable, tax payer healthcare on top of $176,000 a year even when they are out of office and the rest of us….300 million have to rely on the EXPENSIVE healthcare insurance monopoly? People….We need to rise up and wake up and see who is on our side……..whose policies are your economic interest align with?

      • Eline

        Obama has got us further in debt than ALL the presidents put together. You need to WAKE up and see what is happening to this nation. Go to cpusa,org and read and educate yourself. The communists – and we have 100 or more in Congress and they are ALL Democrats – hate our capitalist system in America and they are out to destroy it and Obama is helping them do it. Type in your search engine 45 Long Term Goals For America and read them, they are being fulfilled right down the line.

        • Steve L.

          Your wrong,its all about money and that you would blame it all on Obama and all the comies are dems shows your an extremist who is worse than the people you are attacking. But the terrorist love you for it

  • http://PersonalLibertyAlerts Gary Katocs

    From Root’s lips to God’s ear

    • Ted

      One of the slogans of the Tea Party is “Policy, not Politics”. WAR’s blog forgets policy completely. The same arguments could have been made in 2008 for nominating Sarah Palin, and we know how that turned out. WAR has a tendency to oversell any ideas he has.

      • Average Joe

        “WAR has a tendency to oversell any ideas he has.”

        In my case…it was another “NO SALE”….the mercandise was porly built and not worth the price to be paid.

        In it to win it!
        Ron Paul 2012!

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        AJ!!! SNAP outta of it MAN! LOL!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        Would you buy a used car from him AJ?!! The CONSUMATE salesperson! LOL!!! I still wanna know if that’s a manatee on his tie?! LOL!!!

      • Average Joe

        TomW,
        Feel better now?

        Best wishes,
        AJ

    • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

      You gotta admit, Rubio’s got better hair than Biden! LOL!!! Hell he could give John Edwards a run in the pretty hair race!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJpNSJSab04

      LOL!!!

  • michigander

    Big yawn. Marco Rubio? Checkmate? How about capitulation? Message to Mr. Root–coming from corrupt, statist societies, Latino populations have no special affinity for libertarianism. Abetting a third-world demographic takeover of the U.S. will result in making us more of a big government country than ever. Your cure could end up being worse than the disease.

    • sandman4X4

      am I reading this right? if I am you sur ar one hell of a bog bigot! man you lefties are in a panic mode for sure! All the more reason to vet Marco Rubio, Mitt! I believe you were a good gov for us here in the peoples rebublic of Mass. you did whatever you could concidering you were serounded by the redest of red democrates (rymes with rats), and you did some great things! considering. But you neeed to heeed this advice! not only is Mr. Rubio a smart man, he is an honest man like yourself, who will put America First! and the people First, not some NWO, or non- American non responcibility for the peoples own actions! time for smaller gov.! and to let the states decide what is good for them, not the federal gov.

      • michigander

        In my personal relationships I view people as individuals, but it’s all too clear that individuals are part of racial and ethnic groups, and when living among their own create societies of different types. Allen West is a fine person, but I wouldn’t want to live in an all-black neighborhood. If you’re white, I suspect you wouldn’t either. BTW, did you see the poll for VP conducted at this site? 61% of the 52,000+ votes cast are for Rubio, West, Rice, Jindal, and Cain. Apparently, for the conservative panderers to multiculturalism, non-Hispanic whites need not apply.

      • Johnny

        seriously, sandman….if this is how you spell, and you didnt misspell all those words on purpose, then it shows exactly what kind of people are voting for Romney who are easily manipulated into believing that tax cuts for rich people will help our economy….we have had 8 or more years of super low tax rates for them and nothing has trickled but CRAP………..so you can vote for Romney if you want, but fox news is not the place to be getting NEWS……….they are a right wing propoganda machine

      • michigander

        P.S. Obama is a disaster. I’m not a lefty by any stretch, and will be voting for Romney regardless of who he picks for VP.

      • Johnny

        OH and BTW ( by the way) in case you are too dumb to know what BTW means, if we left everything up to the states, we would still have slavery in the south……..

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Johnny, the fact that you think others don’t know what BTW means, must mean that you just learned it yourself! We’re a few steps ahead of you! Keep going! You MIGHT catch up!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        And you would be wrong in assuming the South would still have slavery if it was up to the states to decide against it. If you have read your history it was taken out of the hands of the Southern States so it could never be proved otherwise.

      • http://liberty Tony

        To Sandman4x4:
        The problem is that Marco Rubio doesn’t have enough political experience. Anotherthing, Rubio doesn’t need to be connected to that poor b@st@rd, “Richie Rich” Zombie. Whether people want to accept it or not, the incumbent will win again because of the fool he’s going against. The best thing to do is to prepare for 2016 where a Rubio/Watts ticket can get elected towards a golden age. Thanks!!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Do not be too eager to have Rubio as VP for Romney. There are enough people disregarding the Constitution to get their own way.

      • sandman4X4

        oops! I ment blueset of blue democrats (rymes with rats)

    • Hey you

      Rubio? That guy is almost a guarantee of another war!

      • eddie47d

        Politics has boxed us in to accepting all wars as our patriotic duty. Those with a conscience have to box their way out of any involvement.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        What makes ya say that Hey you?

    • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

      My problem with Rubio is he claims the Tea Party flag, but when I look at him, he reeks of the Republican establishment! I’ve heard him speak and he comes off as a normal level headed guy but at the same time, as not real, like one who’s being groomed! A facade!!! I pray I’m wrong, especially if he gets the nod! He could make a Romney presidentcy a tad more tolarable for me!!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT8sl9ZyICE

      LOL!!!

  • http://pict-o-toons.blogspot.com/Wise-Up Travelwise42

    It looks to me like this “community-disorganizer” has handcuffed himself to Eric Holder and the wretched, anti-American ways they have brought forth are gonna sink the both of them and the rest of the Democrat party for at least this upcoming election.
    Pelosi, Harry Reid, Valerie Jarret, Axelrod and that whole Chicago thug-ocracy will be lucky if they’re not set upon by the citizens as Mussolini was in the ’40s.

    The only one that may come out of it intact will be the Vice-President who will be looked at like the alcoholic brother-in-law who keeps falling asleep with his face in the mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving. There’s nothing sinister about him, like the others…he’s just “Along-for-the-ridin’” dopey, Joe Biden.

    Nothing would surprise me though…any group that would get together behind closed doors and come up with a plan as idiotic and dangerous as “F&F” are capable
    of anything to keep their hands on the power switch, from financing a terrorist act on American soil to burning down the White House just to stay in office.

    We don’t have to shoot ‘em, hang ‘em or even give them trials!
    Just send them home to Chicago, where there are more killings on any given weekend than there are in Kabul…
    I’m feelin’ lucky!

    • Steve L.

      You and people like you are only american by birth, your so ignorant of whats going on.

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        That’s “you’re” there uh, Brainiac! LOL!!!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Tom, don’t you love it when ignorant people call other people ignorant?

  • Matt

    Obama must go. It’s either him or America.

    • Bev

      Roger.

    • SJJolly

      You Righties would have to change your pants if you ever met a true far-Left Socialist, you get in such a dither over the slightly left of center policies of Obama.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Just because they’re moving slowly doesn’t mean they aren’t far left socialists!

      • Power To The People

        Not a “far righty” dude…but I can recognize a slithering snake in a suit. Obummer and his handlers are half of the way to taking us down. Don’t even need 20/20 vision to see that fact. Are you a lefty plant? Sure sound like it.

      • Flashy

        SJ…actually, Obama is a slightly Conservative Moderate. he is not “liberal’ by any means. Of course, to the current crowd controlling the GOP…the anti American far right, TP, American Taliban…Reagan was a flaming Commie who wouldn’t have won a primary this year …

      • Nadzieja Batki

        From reading what you wrote, it appears that you are the one in a frenzied state about the possibility of O losing.

      • http://gravatar.com/carolinerh carolinerh

        Having lived under socialilsm, you are one stupid individual who has no clue of that type of life and society. May I also say my husband escaped from communism, and likewise you have no clue. You have relied on the idiot media for information or read something nice about these societies, BUT you have never experienced the real thing. Shut up and get informed and start using whatever is left of your leftist brain. Came to America for freedom of life, thought, work and future. You were probably born here and have no experience except perhaps jealousy for not using all this to better your life in every way. I don’t feel sorry for you; I pity you!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        We don’t have to meet any far left Socialists. We know them by their actions, ideologies, and policies. Also history has pointed them out.

      • JeffH

        SJJolly says “You Righties would have to change your pants if you ever met a true far-Left Socialist, you get in such a dither over the slightly left of center policies of Obama.”

        Obama isn’t far left at all…he’s a Marxist minded puppet…if you had the slightest inkling you’d realize that.

        But alas…stupid is as stupid does.

        ***falsy, where ya been? They send you to another blog? Did you come back for a short visit? Just a reminder to ya, you’ve still got no credibility!

      • eddie47d

        Carolinerh; How was that MEDIA in your socialist country? Welcome aboard in America where we have a variety of news outlets. Some very good,some sleazy and some very one sided but all there for you to pick through. Hope you enjoy!

    • common sense

      .”Romney”…is a Robot for the right….No depth..no substance…Did not work for Massachusetts ..definetly will not work on a larger scale..

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        romney is a robot for the elite. He doesn’t represent the right.

    • carrobin

      Want a real catastrophe? It’s spelled President Romney.

      • http://facebook royal

        we are living the catastrophe, commie Obumi has brought it for the last 4 years.

  • Average Joe

    While I understand your point of upstaging Obama, I still doesn’t change my opinion of Romney or Rubio ( I’m from Florida BTW)….I wil not vote for Mutt and Jeff. The lesser of two evils…is still evil. Romney/ Obama….what;s the difference? I can find none….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lUs17azUFs&feature=share

    I am casting my vote for an idea..not a party…and certainly not for a puppet….no way Jose’…So sorry Wayne……it ain’t happening….

    Ron Paul / Andrew Napolitano 2012!

    • travelwise42

      It’s the Mormon or the moron and you can’ make up your mind?

      • common sense

        You said it and Romney is both…M and M…

      • Average Joe

        travelwise42 ,

        This isn’t Sesame Street…. and…..we are not voting for the letter “M”…..and in Romney’s case, that is the only difference between Mormon and Moron. (BTW, being Mormon has no bearing on Presidential responsibilities). Many people claim to be Christians….that doesn’t nessearily make them Christians…actions speak louder than words…and Romney lacks the actions….Just my observation.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

        • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

          Joe, I take it from your statement that you are for that sleaze-bag, hypocritical, moron that currently resides in the Whitehouse. You know who I mean the idiot that wants to turn the US of A into a Socialist State. If so, I hope you like working your a– off so someone else doesn’t have to work (I mean given everything he/she wants) or are you one of those ilk?

          We need to get that damn idiot out of our House and send him and Her (a Traitoress) back where they belong. They don’t care one iota about the Constitution, they look on if as just a peice of paper that is standing in their way of becoming Supreme Rulers. Let them become King and Queen some place else, not here.

          US Combat Vet: I am damn proud to have served and would go to my death defending your right to be and idiot.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        John Wilch, Joe’s not for obummer. He’s just not real fond of romney either.

    • sandman4X4

      wow you folks realy can’t see the real evil can you? do you have any idea what will happen to This Great Country if folks like you think like this come election day? no vote at all is a vote for obummer, wake up!

      • Hey you

        Wake up by election day?

        When has that voting democracy benefited anyone? It’s a charade.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        It won’t matter who you vote for. Everything will continue just as it always has! Surely you aren’t ignorant enough to think that what has happened to our country has been caused by one man alone! Say it isn’t so!

    • Bev

      Well let me help you understand the difference. One is an American who believes in self reliance and responsibility and by the looks of it is also a very good businessman. He gave away his inheritance and the money he has now is money he has made. He knows how to lead. The other is an avowed Marxist who has never held a job and has been suckling at the public teat since he came to this country. He did not grow up here and shares no affection for our culture. He believes in big govt and high taxes- you know to spread the wealth around. No need to work, just wait for your government check to arrive monthly. The only problem with the second guy is that eventually you run out of other people’s money.

      • http://www.facebook.com/steve.lohrstorfer Steve Lohrstorfer

        Ignorant people like you are the problem

      • dave

        you are insane. You think Obama gave out the checks? You are really an idiot. Tell me about the ten trillion he inherited from George Bush? Oh yeah, that guy, the one who ran the deficit to all time highs and to a point where we as a country may never recover. Not Obama, Bush.
        Obama did bail out GM for sure. And in doing so saved the automotive industry in this country.. And by the way … GM already paid the money back…. He provided for insurance for folks that never had any because of laws and prices that are out of the realm of possibility for most of us.
        I am a 100% disabled Vet.

        Tell me, should I give back the money I get every month because I was messed up in the military?
        Should the single mom who through no fault of her own found herself alone and with children to feed when “daddy” walked out for another woman? Should we go ahead and just starve those kids out? Tell them they are not worth anything so instead we vote for Romney who really will tear apart this country?
        How about you or your parents? No money for them when they retire because over the last 30 years republican congresses have robbed the coffers so much that the money is no longer there.

        Vote Romney… after all he is rich and tells you up front he is going to screw you. DO you really want to go back to that nonsense? Or maybe you could stand up and run yourself.

        FOr God’s sake at least stand up and admit you are a racist.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Dave, your ignorance is showing! You think the whole GM thing was wonderful? All it did was steal the shares owned by citizens and give them to the unions. Another grand theft! And the jobs (but for a token few) are all going to China! It obviously didn’t save the country! Watch this video. It will open your eyes to who benefited from our tax dollars!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvl5Gan69Wo&feature=youtu.be

      • Maryland Freestater

        G*d-dammit Dave, will ya give it a rest already?

        “dave says (June 21, 2012 at 9:07 a)

        you are insane. You think Obama gave out the checks? You are really an idiot. Tell me about the ten trillion he inherited from George Bush? Oh yeah, that guy, the one who ran the deficit to all time highs and to a point where we as a country may never recover. Not Obama, Bush. OK, PLEASE BACK THIS UP WITH DATA OR FACTS.

        Obama did bail out GM for sure. And in doing so saved the automotive industry in this country.. And by the way … GM already paid the money back….IT’S NOT THE GOV’T’S JOB TO BAIL ANYBODY OUT – GM SHOULD’VE HANDLED THIS ON ITS OWN.

        He provided for insurance for folks that never had any because of laws and prices that are out of the realm of possibility for most of us. IF 80% ROUGHLY ALREADY HAD SUFFICIENT INSURANCE, THEN JUST WHY WAS OBAMA COMPELLED TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE HEALTH INDUSTRY WHEN SOME SORT OF INSURANCE OF LAST RESORT COULD’VE BEEN SET UP INSTEAD?

        I am a 100% disabled Vet. Tell me, should I give back the money I get every month because I was messed up in the military? THIS IS A STUPID STATEMENT – YOU WERE DAVed, YOU DESERVE YOUR PENSION. I WAS 1 SECOND FROM BEING KILLED – DROWNED AT THAT! -IN A PLANE CRASH IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC WHEN I WAS IN THE NAVY AND ALL I GOT WAS $3K INSURANCE MONEY AND OFFICIAL DENIAL OF SAID CRASH WHEN I WAS DISCHARGED. I DON’T GET A FREAKING PENNY FROM UNCLE SAM.

        Should the single mom who through no fault of her own found herself alone and with children to feed when “daddy” walked out for another woman? Should we go ahead and just starve those kids out? PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY EXAMPLE HERE – NOT THE TAXPAYERS’ RESPONSIBILITY OR CULPABILITY, SO HELL NO!

        Tell them they are not worth anything so instead we vote for Romney who really will tear apart this country? ROMNEY CAN’T DO ANY WORSE THAN OBAMA ALREADY HAS UNLESS YOU KNOW SOMETHING WE DON’T.

        How about you or your parents? No money for them when they retire because over the last 30 years republican congresses have robbed the coffers so much that the money is no longer there. THIS IS WHY I HAVE A TIAA-CREF ACCOUNT SO I DON’T HAVE TO SWEAT MY RETIREMENT SO BAD – I’VE KNOWN FOR DECADES IT’S A HOUSE OF CARDS AND WISH I HAD MORE INVESTMENTS AND SUCH.

        Vote Romney… after all he is rich and tells you up front he is going to screw you. DO you really want to go back to that nonsense? Or maybe you could stand up and run yourself. AND GO THRU A CHARACTER ASSASSINATION FROM THE MEDIA LIKE SARAH PALIN DID? ESPECIALLY AS A LIBERTARIAN, I HAVE TO PASS THE REPUBLICAN GAUNTLET FIRST BEFORE THE FIFTH COLUMN (IE, DEMOCRATS) WOULD START THE SLANDER AND LIES THEY SPEW.

        For God’s sake at least stand up and admit you are a racist.” WTF, DAVE? WHY CAN’T PEOPLE LIKE YOU COMPREHEND THAT PEOPLE CAN BE ANTI-OBAMA AND NOT BE A RACIST? I DESPISE OBAMA BECAUSE OF HIS POLICIES, NOT BECAUSE HE’S GOT A HEAVY TAN. I DESPISE OBAMA BECAUSE HE HAS A CHIP ON HIS SHOULDER THAT WOULD HOLD THE 4 PRESIDENTS OF MT. RUSHMORE WITH ROOM FOR NIXON. I DESPISE OBAMA BECAUSE HE HAS MISLED THE USA MORE THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENT SINCE I CAN REMEMBER.

        Look, Dave, enough. BASTA YA! Enough of your emotionalism and if you don’t like this column, please go to your own sites – liberal, democrat or whatever. i have absolutely no interest in leftist sophistry – never been to a Soros backed site and probably never will, and i have NO interest in hearing leftist voices here or anywhere. As they say in online dating sites, ‘not a hate, just a preference’.

        Despite the blather, leftists no longer bring anything of substance to the American table. Your policies seem systematically designed to tear down this nation – political correctness, forced integration, socialistic policies regarding environment and ‘ambiente’, elimination of any religious belief in public life, social engineering on a large scale (family dissolution, enforced homosexuality, hostility towards Christianity etc). Just why is the left so hell-bent on this policy?

        Despite my contempt and disregard for leftistry, I have nothing personal against you or anybody else as long as they refrain from meddling in my affairs. In fact, that’s the root of many of today’s current problems – people who think it’s their business to meddle with the affairs of all. Leftists and certain rightwing religious elements have a need to want to control all our lives and I’m sorry, but it’s meddling and ya don’t have the right, so give it a rest.

        • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

          Idiot, it was Johnson and his fellow Democrats who put what is call the Social Security Fund into the General Fund to pay for his bloody war, Vietnam.

          I served there in ’68-’69 with the 1st Cav Div (AM) as a Helicopter Doorgunner and came away with a 10% Disability (Right Leg). I was damned proud to have done it and would do it again because of the oath I took in ’63.

          Oh, I and others like me would go to our graves defending your rights as an American to be an idiot.

          Oh, I am not a racist I am of mixed blood and damned proud of my heritage.

      • eddie47d

        That is crony capitalism (video) at it’s finest Nancy and has been going on for many decades. Those who demand “free markets” have to let it happen in a world wide economy. I’ve been exposing those billionaires for a mighty long time and the treachery that comes with their territory.

      • http://facebook royal

        well said, Bev. Any one other than Obummer is a great choice. Herman Cain would be a great VP Choice for Romney.

    • Average Joe

      Oh listen…the sound of chirping cricket off in the distance…..what a lovely sound…….

      Sorry to burst any bubbles…but….

      Since electing Romney would be essentially the same as re-electing Obama, I fail to see your reasoning. Electing another business as usual candidate makes no sense to me. Voting for Romney because the media tells us he is the forgone conclusion for Republicans…and that in order to save the “Party”, we must vote for him …is LUDICROUS.
      As far as I am concerned, the Party” has lost their way and I don’t wish to attend ( the Party is over). Instead, I will vote my conscience and offer my vote to Ron Paul.

      Now, the GOP and Romneybots have a choice to make:
      Ron Paul supporters are not going to “roll over” for the Party….So, the GOP can either get on board with us…or they can lose the general election and the Party…..because Mutt…er Mitt can’t win without us…and we aren’t budging from our support of Dr. Paul. The ball is firmly in the GOP’s court now….let’s see what they do with it.
      I’m voting for Ron Paul / Andrew Napolitano 2012….and I approved this message.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I agree with you!

      • Maryland Freestater

        I’d love to vote this ticket too but faced with realpolitik, for THIS election, any vote NOT for Romney will be a vote for Obama. The problem is Obama is so insidious that it truly IS an ‘anybody but Obama’ scenario this election, and also a democrat issue, in that democrats need to have their political back broken before Paulistas / Libertarians can challenge the old-guard Republicans. Knowing what a lousy job Obama has done as President so far, imagine what he’ll attempt to do as a second-term president.

        Kind of reminds me of a poster i saw once in a WWII book about Hitler: Hitler had said something like “give me a thousand years and look at what I’ll have done for Germany”, and the background picture was bombed out Berlin.

        What will the US look like after 4 more years of Obama? I’m afraid to think.

        I’d vote for Dr. Paul in a heartbeat if I truly believed he’d have a chance of beating Obama but like i said, one has to be realistic here.

      • Average Joe

        Maryland Freestater,

        “I’d love to vote this ticket too but faced with realpolitik, for THIS election, any vote NOT for Romney will be a vote for Obama.”

        If, as you say ,you’ld love to vote for this ticket….then by all means..vote for this ticket. A vote for Ron Paul…is not a vote for Obama…it is a vote for…Ron Paul….and a vote against the other candidates. Stop buying into the BS…..that is a vote for Obama. Vote your conscience…vote for the person that best exemplifies your vision for America…and stop listening to the other side telling you that your vote is for someone else…it isn’t (remember, they are trying to get their candidate elected…at any cost). Our nation is in this mess because people keep “voting for the lesser of two evils”…and obviously that hasn’t been working out so well.
        Make a stand, based on your values and convictions…and not because someone else tells you that your vote is wasted. The only vote that is ever wasted…is the vote not cast. Stand up and be counted.
        “I’d vote for Dr. Paul in a heartbeat if I truly believed he’d have a chance of beating Obama but like i said, one has to be realistic here.”

        You do realize that nobody stands a chance…if we don’t vote for them, right?

        A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for America.
        A vote for anyone else…is TREASON!
        Choose wisely.

        “Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say ‘what should be the reward of such sacrifices?’ Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth?
        If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
        Samuel Adams

        Best wishes,
        AJ

    • Larry

      Sounds to me like your just another Obama plant trying to get everybody to believe so many of us will just vote for Ron Paul.How stupid do u think we are?Everyone with a quarter of a brain knows that is only a vote for obama.What we have is Romney and so Romney it is,period….

      • Average Joe

        Larry,
        New around here Larry? You must be. I have been a Ron Paul supporter for close to 20 years and most of the folks around here know this as being a fact. However if it makes you feel any better …please feel free to continue your beliefs…..regardless of how misguided they are.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • Average Joe

        Larry,

        On a side note…
        “.How stupid do u think we are?”

        If you are voting for Romney or Obama….pretty dang stupid.

        In the future, don’t ask questons that you really don’t want the honest answer to….just an observation.
        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • Larry

        and how far and futile has that gotten you so far? I’m not saying there is anything wrong with Paul but it just so happens that he never won the nomination.Had he I would have voted for him but he didn’t,Romney did.If you continue to believe that by writing him in you’ll magically get him elected then you are dillusional.Again,,period…

      • Average Joe

        “I’m not saying there is anything wrong with Paul but it just so happens that he never won the nomination.”

        Psst,did you miss the memo? Nobody has won the nomination yet. You see the nominating proccess doesn’t conclude until the convention in Tampa takes place…and that doesn’t happen until August.
        Before you stick your feet in your mouth, I will remind you the “primaries” do not elect the nominee…delegates however….do….and they will be cast at the convention. Are you sure that you are intelligent enough to be voting? ( I have serious doubts). Maybe a basic civics class is in order for you? Please turn off the “Boob Tube”……stop being a “Boob”.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Larry, I think you’re stupid enough to vote for the status quo!

    • Power To The People

      I respect your position and believe me have the same problem with the choices. Do we really ever have a distinct difference…..maybe not extreme, but there is a difference. Romney is a moderate….that’s a lot better than a lefty loon who hangs out with socialist, communists and anarchists!

      • Average Joe

        Power To The People ,
        Thank you for your understanding. I invite you to go back up to my original post and watch the video that I posted….there is no difference between Romney and Obama. Sure, they claim to be different…but their words say otherwise….and they both pander to the highest bidder and give lip service to anyone capable of lifting a pen and casting a vote…..don’t buy into the hype.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

        • Steve L.

          Obama and Rommney are miles apart and its just silly that you can’t see it

      • Average Joe

        Steve L.,

        Are we now disscussing distance as a reason to vote for Romney? Your intelligence astounds me (not).Yes they are “miles apart in distance…but not on policy…..maybe you need to watch that video…over and over until you grasp the fact that they both said the exact same things.

        Please, tell us why we need to vote for Romney ….extoll upon us the many virtues of Romney. Like most liberals and party hacks…you tell us not to vote for Ron Paul…but you never seem to be able to tell us about Romney’s virtues and why is should be the man to run a nation….other than to say….we must beat Obama ( a non-reason considering their similar policies)…. Ron Paul supporters are supporting an idea…not the man….but the message he brings. The only message that I get from Romney: “I will say anything you want to hear…for your vote”…..he is after all …not a flip flopper…he is just…”flexible”…..of course…so is “Stretch Armstrong” (I never bought that either).

        Contrary to popular opinion…today is a great day….. for you to stop sniffing the glue……

        Best wishes,
        AJ

        • Steve L.

          Your right about Romney that’s why its unbelivable people follow him. Ron Paul has his pie in the sky ideas too. Ron Paul says he will just get rid of this and end that’ really Ron, how are you gonna do what no one else can do. CONGRESS is the problem , Money is the problem, they will block R P just like they have Obama. Term limits is the only way to get rid of the bought and paid for congressional Hacks that are selling off this country to the special interests dollars

      • Average Joe
      • Average Joe

        SteveL,

        “Your right about Romney that’s why its unbelivable people follow him.”

        Now that we are on the same page, pardon me while I have an “Ah Hah” moment.

        “Ron Paul has his pie in the sky ideas too. ”

        Please enlighten us on those (as you say) “pie in the sky ideas”. I have have never heard any of those from Dr. Paul…only pure logic.

        “Ron Paul says he will just get rid of this and end that’ really Ron, how are you gonna do what no one else can do. CONGRESS is the problem , Money is the problem, they will block R P just like they have Obama. ”

        VETO…. and executive orders to bring the troops home and stop the overseas spending….therby keeping out troops here…protecting our nation (instead of corporate interests overseas)….allowing more money for use to help Americans….rather than propping up Dictators around the globe.

        “CONGRESS is the problem , Money is the problem, ”

        Absolutely, both are problems…and Ron Paul is the only one willing to stand against Congress (forcing them to show their true nature to us when they attempt to override his veto’s)…exposing them for what they truly are…thieves and hucksters.

        “Term limits is the only way to get rid of the bought and paid for congressional Hacks that are selling off this country to the special interests dollars”

        Term limits are a double edged sword…because if they know that they only have a limited time frame to pass their agendas…they will just fastrack that agenda (let’s face it, the less congress does..the better off we are as a nation).
        The best way to get rid of them is to start replacing the folks at the local level…we can’t replace the scum in DC…if we don’t first replace the folks that are enabling them…and those are the idiots at the local and state levels.
        Freedom and Liberty must begin at home and work it’s way up to the Federal level…we can’t start from the top down…because those in the middle are resisting their “business as usual” lives being uprooted.

        The best way to eliminate the vermin…is at the ballot box…starting from the bottom up…local, county, state…and finally…Federal.

        My best advice is this…if they are an incumbant (with few exceptions) vote them out….if things don’t improve…repeat the proccess until we get the government that our Constitution calls for…and don’t give up…until we do get that government.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

    • Average Joe

      For a perfect example of someone claiming to be a Christian….while acting anything but Christian…please see TomW’s post above.
      He will call you every nasty name that he can think of…and then quote the Bible.
      A true hypocrite of the highest caliber…and he does this on a daily basis….

      Oh, BTW TomW…before you reply…don’t…because as usual, you will only serve to prove my point further.

      Best wishes,
      AJ

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        LOL!!! AJ! You Paultoids are sooo thin skinned dude! LOL!!! Get over it MAN! LOL!!! There’s always 2016! SUCK IT UP MAN!!! Y’all’s tear laden snivlin’ is gettin’ kinda embarrassing y’all! Come on fellas, MAN UP! LOL!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/dawgbisquit1 Tom W.

        And when did I ever call you a nasty name?! LOL!!!

      • Average Joe

        Ah…I see that you too have a reading comprehension problem…want to try that again?
        I knew you couldn’t resist replying to me…considering how long it took you to reply, you must have been ready to explode …when you finally “HAD” to reply….and then you couldn’t get the reply right…who woulda thunk?

        Best wishes,
        AJ

    • Average Joe

      John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.) ,
      Reading comprehension problems? I don’t recall saying that I was going to vote for Obama…On the contrary, I said that I was voting for Ron Paul ( see there, completely different spelling and all that stuff). Wow, Maybe you need new glasses?…A reading comprehension class?
      Go ahead now, say something silly…like…a vote for Ron Paul…is a vote for Obama ( I can always use another laugh at another ignorant statement).

      Once more…a vote for Ron Paul…is a vote for Ron Paul. A vote for Obama is a vote for…more of the same. A vote for Romney…is a vote for…more of the same.
      Although I know how folks like you think…please don’t whine if you get Obama or Romney…you’ll be getting exactly what you’ve asked for…. More of the same….
      BTW, a vote for Romney…is a vote for Obama. If the Republicans lose the race…it won’t be because I voted for Ron Paul…they will have lost…because folks like you…didn’t vote for Ron Paul….and that is your problem….not mine.

      Whining isn’t pretty and it doesn’t help your argument….don’t do it.

      Best wishes,
      AJ

      • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

        Ok, you’re voting for Paul. He doesnt stand a chance of winning enough votes to capture the nomination.

        I like some of his domestic policies but his foreign policies scare me. He says he wants to pull all our troups back. That policy will not work: we need them out there gathering intel on our enemies (whom ever they may be) or even our so called allies may be planning something and we need to know what those plans are so that we can respond accordingly.

        As for voting for Romney, I was for Cain because I like his 999 plan and several other of his plans. However, I had to switch my vote to Santorim not because he dropped out I need to switch again. Now I feel the best man, one with experience in running a business, running a Government, is Romney. Atleast he has had to make payroll for his employees. The idiot we have in the Whitehouse, I feel, is so incompetate(?) that he couldn’t even pour p–s out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel. Just look at the massive debt he has rack up in just 3.5 yrs (more than all the Presidents have in 200+ years). Now, he’s even stopped us from fining out who ordered and implemented the Fast & Furious screwup. Some transparent government he is giving us.

      • Average Joe

        John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.) ,

        “Ok, you’re voting for Paul. He doesnt stand a chance of winning enough votes to capture the nomination.”

        I’m glad you have an opinion…but, just because you have an opinion…doesn’t make your opinion correct….I have one those too….and it is diametrically opposed to yours.

        “I like some of his domestic policies but his foreign policies scare me. He says he wants to pull all our troups back. That policy will not work: we need them out there gathering intel on our enemies (whom ever they may be) or even our so called allies may be planning something and we need to know what those plans are so that we can respond accordingly.”

        Are you sure you were in the military? ( Yes, I see your name, but your statement is ludicrous) I was in the military and “troops” generally do not gather intelligence (unless they just accidently stumble upon it)…people who are TRAINED in intelligence work do that job…and I can tell you that they aren’t the grunts on the ground ( I had a Top Secret Security clearence 1973-1977)…..they are usually “covert ops”…who work alone or in small groups…(Kind of hard to make an entire battallion of men look inconspicuous).

        Are you just upset because you are retired…and they won’t let you go out , meet people in faraway lands…and kill them anymore? People like you are what’s wrong with this nation …you can’t mind your own business….and negotiation is out of the question…it’s the good old…my way or I’ll kill you mentality…what a maroon…. Do you not understand that they hate us …because we occupy…their land? Are you really that stupid… that you don’t understand that simple bit of logic?….They hate us…because of people like YOU.
        How would you react..if 100,000 Chinese troops were brought into your area and took over and monitored everything you do…treated you like you were servants to them…killed your family and friends?….I am guessing that you would be pretty pissed offf….guess what?….So are those people who’s land WE Occupy….nimrod….

        “As for voting for Romney, I was for Cain because I like his 999 plan and several other of his plans. However, I had to switch my vote to Santorim not because he dropped out I need to switch again. Now I feel the best man, one with experience in running a business, running a Government, is Romney.”

        So what you are saying is….you have no moral fortitutde, no values (other than we need to kill people) and that you change your vote like most people change their underwear…daily…whoever is the flavor of the day ( as given to you by the media and your former employers)….. another good little soldier with more balls than brains….again…what a maroon.

        Some of us take a stand for our belifs and values…some of you just blindly follow the orders that someone else gives to you. Apparently you vote the same way….you will vote for whoever they tell you to vote for…..good little soldier……yet again…what a maroon!
        (moron was spelled maroon, so that your simple mind can understand the gist of the comment).

        If you want respect from me…earn it! simply being in the miltary (I did my time too) doesn’t give you automatic respect…it must be earned by actions and deeds…..and so far..you haven’t earned it.

        By all means…vote for Robamney…and another four years of business as usual…and when you get what you voted for…don’t complain about losing your sovereignty, freedoms and liberties…because you helped us to lose them. Feel proud of your choices…pat yourself on the back and feel good about it.

        I’ll continue to vote on principles and values (God, The Constitution and the rule of law)
        I will cast my vote for Ron Paul…a man who also holds those values….the same man…with the same principles and honesty…. that I have supported for almost 20 years.

        Thank you for your service…now be gone. My hope is that one day you pull your head from your backside and become a human being…… gain some intelligence and logic…and stop following orders……blindly. ( not likely to happen though, you’ve been programmed well by your masters).

        “Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say ‘what should be the reward of such sacrifices?’ Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth?
        If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”

        Best wishes,
        AJ

        • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

          AJ, I agree with some of your statements on who does the job of gathering intel, however our troops (Combatant and Non-combatant) do garner some intel just by being in the right place at the right time. Take for instance if you along with a squad of Grunts are out on patrol and you happen to come across several enemy soldiers doing the same thing as you do and the Grunts (us not them) happen to be faster on the draw than those soldiers. After the shooting has stopped, the Grunts start gathering up any items that the enemy just happen to have. Those items are now what is called intel: they tell the right people what type of unit those soldiers belonged to (weapons, uniforms, patches, and etc.), where they were going (Maps), where they came from (Maps), what type of mission they were on (orders or papers). Or another example is say you are sitting in your favorite watering hole or Cafe and you happen to over hear someone in the next booth talking about attacking a convoy that will be leaving from your base in a couple of days: will you disregard what you just heard or will you report it to someone higher. What you do will either save lives or get people kill; you decide.

          One of my jobs while in the military was Recon (Scout): I had to known how to reconize vehicles (be they ground or Air) by nomanclature(?), type, country, etc; units by the kind of uniforms and patches that their troops were wearing. I just didn’t just destroy thing I had to know just what I was faceing. In otherwords my job was to gather intel so that those that were following me could give proper and timely orders to insure the completion of our mission. Oh, I also worked as an Battalion Intel Specialist (you’d be surprised at what crossed my desk).

          The one thing I learned in all my years in the Military was that there wasn’t anything that couldn’t be used as intel. You just varified what was being given to you before you could use it.

  • travelwise42

    It looks to me like the Community DIS-organizer has handcuffed himself to Eric Holder and the wretched, anti-American ways they have brought forth are gonna sink
    the both of them and the rest of the Democrat party for at least this upcoming election.
    Pelosi, Harry Reid, Valerie Jarret, Axelrod and that whole Chicago thug-ocracy will be lucky if they’re not set upon by the citizens as Mussolini was in the ’40s.

    The only one that may come out of it intact will be the Vice-President who will be looked at like the alcoholic brother-in-law who keeps falling asleep with his face in the mashed potatoes on Thanksgiving. There’s nothing sinister about him, like the others…he’s just “Along-for-the-ridin’” dopey Joe Biden.

    Nothing would surprise me though…any group that would get together behind closed doors and come up with a plan as idiotic and dangerous as “F&F” are capable
    of anything to keep their hands on the power switch, from financing a terrorist act on American soil to burning down the White House just to stay in office.

    We don’t have to shoot ‘em, hang ‘em or even give them trials!

    Just send them home to Chicago, where there are more killings on any given weekend than there are in Kabul.
    I’m feeling lucky!

    • Warrior

      Absolutely, couldn’t agree more. I do believe the rest of the country now realizes the dysfunctional marxist group from “Hyde Park” is hellbent on making the whole country a spitt’n image of the corrupt statist city of chicago. Believe me, it not a very happy place unless your “in” with the “rulers”. 60 years of democrapic rule and now ILL is freakin financially and morally “broke”. It’s your choice, but for me, I’m not giving my vote for “Any Progressive” this November. Every program these losers devise, is a “Loser”.

      • http://www.facebook.com/steve.lohrstorfer Steve Lohrstorfer

        Where were all you losers when the republicans and corporate thieves led us into this mess. You are the problem everything you say is nonsense and your stupidity is killing this country and you’ll drink their red,white and blue kool-aid and vote for them again. Just listen to what the republicans had to say about themselves, their not fit for office by their own admittance BUT YOU’LL STILL GO VOTE FOR ‘EM…

      • Warrior

        Better hurry up and get in line, they’re running out of fish in a hurry today!

      • ralph

        you are being KIND. Chicago Politics are much worse than anyone would believe. an encylopedia would not have enough space to do a tell all.

    • Daveh234

      “any group that would get together behind closed doors and come up with a plan as idiotic and dangerous as “F&F” are capable
      of anything to keep their hands on the power switch”
      Well, the administration that started F&F was the Bush Admin. the current people were trying to get is shut down, quietly, as it’s an embarrassment to us all.

      • JeffH

        …If only pigs could fly…

    • Johnny

      i know that your right wing fox news hasnt told you this, but this administration didnt CREATE fast and furious, but this was started during the bush administration in 2006, but of course, FOX wont tell you this, will they? here is a link in wikipedia if you care to do some reading, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

  • LAB

    NoBama already sealed his fate with the latest exec. priv. covering up the conspiracy betwixt himself and holder’s gun running fiasco they thought would help to get rid of our SECOND AMENDMENT! LOSER!

    • Flashy

      just to be clear…the program Fast and Furious was inherited by Holder’s agency. it was initiated by the prior GOP/Conservative administration.

      • Warrior

        Time to go get your daily fish handout, isn’t it?

      • Don

        flash, (small F ), and your full of sheeat !!!

      • http://gravatar.com/elevatecoffeeco Elevate Coffee Co.

        Just keeping hitting that old crack pipe Flashy or were you one of the old “Choom” gang! Morons like you want to blame Bush for everything and no, this was Odumbo’s and his idiot minion Holder’s own program. They didn’t inherit any program from Bush. The Operation Wide Receiver program that was running under Bush had already been shut down long before your hero Oblamo took office. Do your research before you spew your liberal drivel on this websit again.

      • Flashy

        Elevated…you are correct to a point. the program was initiated in 2006, the one Operation Fast and furious is the one targeted by the GOP since the replicant operations under the program were during the Bush ll administration. Those operations are conveniently omitted when speaking of the ATF Program

        “The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) ran a series of “gunwalking” sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011.[2][5] This was done under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner, a project intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico by interdicting straw purchasers and gun traffickers within the United States.[6] “Gunwalking” or “letting guns walk” was a tactic whereby the ATF knowingly allowed thousands of guns to be bought by suspected arms traffickers (“gunrunners”) working through straw purchasers on behalf of Mexican drug cartels.[7]”

        If the GOP led committee were even close to being serious about this, they’d be investigating the program, not just a singular operation. I wonder why they haven’t dug for information from the beginning in 2006. Don’t you?

      • Sirian

        Elevate Coffee Co.,
        You’re talking to a wall. It obviously didn’t take but a short amount of time to realize that it is a total waste of keystroke time to counter Flasho. No matter what links, books, or any other source of information is provided to him, his train of thought or comments never change. He loves to stir the pot with whimsically twisted “facts”. Just saying.

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston
      • Hey you

        Just goes to show that most any out of touch administration in D.C. can create big problems. They’re all the same. Dictatorial and without any real concept of the consequences of what they do.

        If you must, vote to support dictatorial powers for people who probably know only how to mess things up. That’s almost always the choice or didn’t you understand?

      • Power To The People

        When are you all going to see the truth…there are no Repubs and Demos….there are the big brother powers of the fed and us! The difference between the parties is a fine line of social economic theory and control.

        All of these programs like F&F exhibit the stupidity of so many of the clowns in charge.

      • GregS

        My question to you, Flashy, is: What are Holder and Obama trying to HIDE by holding back the requested documents????

        • Steve L.

          They are not releasing the conversations that took place after the fast and furious incident. They are privliged and every pres has done it. Its just republican election year grandstanding

      • GregS

        This is NOT “just republican election year grandstanding.” Human lives were lost in this incident. Furthermore, since Watergate, the courts have greatly narrowed the conditions under which executive privilege may be taken. The loss of human life is NOT included in those conditions.

        Also, as usual, Obama’s hypocrisy is glaring: Several times, he has openly criticized the Bush administration for taking executive privilege, where actions of government officials are being questioned. Now, he is doing the EXACT same thing.

      • Flashy

        Mr. Livingston. yep..there is a difference. The operations during the bush years involved the Mexican government (a very trustworthy bunch…much like trusting Iran). Operation F & F didn’t involve the Mexican government…in essence they cut out the middle man and the informants.

        I’m not a supporter of the program (and the several operations..one by this admin., at least three by the previous administration) by any means…but if one is going to paint the canvas, include the entire picture.

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear Flashy,

          You write: “but if one is going to paint the canvas, include the entire picture.” I believe that is what I was doing.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • Flashy

        GregS…good question. One has to wonder if they’d hold back if ALL documents for the Program were being requested…not just a narrowly focused investigation of one operation. If I were to guess..i’d say it involved telling comments concerning the corruption of Mexican authorities and naming names in the Mexican hierarchy. Probably discussing the prior operations conducted by the Bush administration and the reasons for the failures being laid on the Mexican contingent.

        That would be my immediate guess…

        mr. Livingston…such is your belief. I’m glad I could supply the final pieces of the puzzle to complete the canvas.

      • GregS

        Flashy, you’ve completely missed the point: They have NO business holding back ANYTHING, especially when human lives have been lost.

    • Daveh234

      What exactly has been done by Obama to the second amendment? What statements or policies have been brought forth?
      That is propaganda from the NRA rabbling the minions with no substance.

  • Flashy

    When did Root join up with the Comedy Club?

  • RGS

    Words fail, I am so disgusted by this advice announcement.
    RGS

  • Mike

    I live in Fla. I ask if Obama is not a natural born citizen because of 1 parent how is Sen. Rubio qualified with 2 parents not being citizens at the time of his birth. I like Marco and voted for him.

  • SallyAl

    Oh my flipping God! Have you lost your mind? NO RUBIO!!!! He is ineligible!!!! NO, NO, NO! Is this part of the reason your name wasn’t even known when you ran for potus? You should have at the very least a rudimentary knowledge of the Constitution of the country you are running for president of.

  • Bob M

    Some day we are going to have to address the issue of what is a natural born citizen.

    We have been electing presidents for well over two hundred years, and it seems, today, we can not agree on what the qualifications for the office are.

    In my opinion, the founding fathers knew the definition of natural born citizen as opposed to natural born subject, therefor Marco Rubio can not and should not be nominated as vp

    • Flashy

      Which “founding fathers” are you speaking of? There are literally hundreds and the views held are as divergent then as they are today. Easy to cherry pick though when you have so many opinions to pull from….

      Get real …. jeesh

      • Johnny

        natural born citizen means you were born ON United States SOIL…….the last time I checked, Hawaii is STILL a state……

  • Chester

    If Romney actually wants to WIN. he needs to quit digging for dirt to throw and be sure his own hide is clean. After that, show us something that doesn’t look like more of the same things he has done in the past, which have hurt the working class citizen more than helped them overall. Also, ask why, if Romneycare is so very GOOD for Massachusetts, why Obamacare is so very BAD for the country as a whole. The two programs are far more alike than different, even according to the very Republicans who helped set up Romneycare..

  • mike

    The republican party shot itself in the foot by turning it’s back on Ron Paul who would’ve easily beat Barack Hussein & now it’s gonna bite them in the ass come November.

  • Dave Mills

    I’m a Canadian. I feel for you guys right now. It’s not a good scenario when you feel you have to vote for candidate “B” for no other reason than to free yourselves from candidate “A”… But that A definitely has to go, if you get my drift. It would sure be nice if someone came out of the woodwork that had the interests of your country in mind.

    • Don

      Thanks for your concern Dave Mills

  • Deerinwater

    Hmm? I would agree that the “talk” of Obama’s defeat has been kicked up several notches of late. In fact, all talking points, how awful this is and that is being ramped up by all pundits on the right as they prefer the rich guy that would run of with a workers pensions and life savings over the DNC ‘s magic negro.

    For those people that believe everything they hear, stay on your meds and stay away from machinery and sharp objects as you will be hearing things that will make you sad, mad and glad.

    I guess I have the same right.

    As a small business owner that’s flown by the sit of my pants for 40 years, I see 2013 as a come-back year regardless who wins this election. It doesn’t really matter, there is just too much in the pipe, too much invested, too many deal struck, too many plans made for 2013 to not be a bumper year for Americans. The end of 2012 elections will be a turning point for business regardless.

    But my vision wanes with 8 years of Romney and size of the Corporate boot Americans will be left to live with. The “right” seems to want this wealthy mans boot, seeing it as a good thing. It’s a big boot that can buy lots of vote and have us more enslaved and indebted then what we already are. The carpet baggers and peasant worker class will reach record numbers but you will never hear of it, ~ as it won’t be reported, it won’t make news headlines.

    Four year of Obama or 8 year of Romney? ~ Personally, I would like to see the GOP bring forward a more worthy candidate. In four years, one would think that they could find someone.

    I will support the DNC and hope to see Mitt Romney spend a lot of money.

    • Larry

      Sounds more like deerinheadlights…..

    • http://elevatecoffeeco.wordpress.com Elevate Coffee Co

      I can’t believe what I am reading from you, deerintheheadlights. I can’t understand how you can think the country can survive four more years of the amateur Oblamo and his gang of thieves! If he survives until the election without getting impeached will be a miracle. I am sure Obama is trying to figure how he can executive order the election away as I write. What really worries me is how this election could be anything but a landslide for Romney. I can’t understand how anyone who believes in our great country could possibly vote for Oblamo.

      • Flashy

        “I can’t understand…’

        Obviously. If you took the time to try, you’d not be voting GOP. Ignorance, fear, hate, greed … the pillars of the GOP voters

      • Deerinwater

        I don’t see the urgency that you suggest and I see don’t see impeachable conduct that you seem to see what I don’t, please tell us where do we acquire such evidence?

      • Daveh234

        One executive order for Obama in over 3 years. Six executive orders for Bush in 8 years.
        There are reasons they allow executive orders for presidents and have since day one.
        Of course, Obama could only have the wrong reasons to use this privilege as you are against everything the man has attempted to do.

      • JeffH

        Daveh234, you may want to re-state that. One EO?
        http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/obama-subjects.html

        Obama has signed 128 Executive Orders to date during his Administration.

      • Average Joe

        JeffH

        • macgyver1948

          Average ‘GOP’ Joe. The daily stuff you continue to miss. Economically the country has improved under Obama although there is much more to do to fix the messes Bush left. Under Obama policies there has been job creation and the GOP has done nothing but try to kill Obama because hurting Obama is more important then helping the country so they ‘forget’ and lie toward that goal.

          When the Dems owned Congress the Dems passed the Dream act. The House voted for it with Dems in majority and the Senate passed it with 55 out of 100 Senators voting for it. President Obama was happy maybe because it was a Dem plan but mostly because it was needed. Then the Republicans Philabusted it. Now, this week, the House (GOP) Speaker says the thing that bothers them the most is that President Obama didn’t even ask Congress to do something concerning immigration. Did the GOP speaker bend his elbow to much today for him to say that or is he having a “senior” moment?

          There is so much the GOP does to hurt us in order to stop Obama. The student loan thing for example. Congress wont help us there either so Obama has to. There are so many Obama policies that are working for us but the GOP refuses to let us see. As Nancy in Nebraska said, to me, “There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.”. I am not so sure she really knows how to use that old saying but she used it to call me delusional and it appeared as if she made it up. But the old expression does apply to so many GOP supporters… All I ask for is to allow others to have their opinions and beliefs respected and stop telling us we are wrong because we disagree with you. We, Obama supporters and Liberals, are as entitled to our beliefs as you are with yours.

      • Average Joe

        macgyver1948

        Padon me while I laugh hysterically at your entire post. Please have your medication adjusted…you have already proven that you are delusional…with your “hate’ accusations that you made earlier against Nancy and me.
        You have no credibilty……

        Best wishes,
        AJ

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I can’t believe your optimism for 2013! I think it will be the year of the crash! Theyve been trying to hold it off but it is coming!!! There isn’t enough money in the world to bail us out of the mess theyve gotten us into! Hold on! It’s gonna be a wild ride!

      • Flashy

        Nancy…step back and take a deep breath. First off, Pres. Obama has the US back fairly stable from the abyss he inherited from the previous administration. Overall, with a few areas of shakiness…we’re standing OK economically. Jobs need to come back, but with the GOP killing every job creation bill presented…employment recovery will be slowed for awhile.

        Europe however, swallowed the Kool Aid and went with what the GOP and TPers push for the US. Austerity in targeted stimulus spending. And today we see where that would have taken us. Over the frippin’ cliff. Had we gone with the policies the TPers and the GOP were pushing, today we’d be trying to figure a way out from the Second Depression.

        As it stands, our economic engine is slowed quite a bit because of the European situation. Had they worked together in joint with us as was proposed by the administration during the first economic summit…I’d say we’d be well on the way to a situation where the Fed would be trying to put the brakes on the economic engine racing down the pike.

        And we’d have no issue with the deficit spending as revenues would increase from increased economic activities and as the political will to do away with the Bush Welfare for the Wealthy tax cuts would be present.

      • Average Joe

        I was thinking…it’s going to be a miserable ride….everything considered. (kind of like going to Disneyland…and only one attraction is open…”oDumbo”…)

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Flashy, you’re an idiot! obummer’s done NOTHING to improve anything! You must be listening to the network news! The jobs aren’t coming back! They’re gone! They’re in China! We’ve been robbed blind by the republicans AND the democrats! Total collapse IS coming. If you refuse to see it and prepare, you are one of the idiots who think the government will take care of them! I’m sure glad you don’t live by me!

      • Average Joe

        Nancy in Nebraska ,
        Don’t waste your time (a valuable commodity that can’t be replaced) on flashy, as flashy is a lost cause. I have stopped replying to him for that very reason…it’s a waste of MY time.
        Flashy has a motto:

        I don’t believe it. Prove it to me and I still won’t believe it.
        Douglas Adams

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • Deerinwater

        “I don’t believe it. Prove it to me and I still won’t believe it.
        Douglas Adams”

        Well in this case both of you have done neither.

        Nancy, I’d be the first to admit, I nor anyone else knows with certainty was next week will bring, much less next year.

        But what I do know is that tomorrow will come one way or the other and these people that want to sell you fear have a agenda to sell this fear. What is it that makes you believe that these people give a hoot about you to offer you such “good” advise? What have you don’t for them? What can you do for them? Believe “their truths” and offer them support, allowing you fears to override anything else or any other vision offered?

        Did these same people warn you specificity when they were in charge and control?

        I think Ron Paul is one of the very few that foretold today. ~ Ron Paul was sounding an alarm as early as 1991.

        But today, Ron Paul is in much the same position as all GOP voters, willing to support his parties candidate at every opportunity knowing full well Romney will be another puppet like 43 and serve as a face to monied elite as they funnel more money and power into the hands of a very select few.

        Maybe that is a good thing? Maybe that is what we should have, maybe that is what we deserve to have as Americans. But I fail to see much in the way of promise and hope for the individual by giving more to those that use money alone to buy status and position. Is one own merits only valued by the dollar anymore?

        That you can devalue me, does that mean that I’m worth less? Yes! I think that it does.

        I’ve found that a mother’s love is the only thing I’ve ever been able to depend on. These people do not love you or I. In-fact, they hate us, they have to, are required too, share the same air, land and water, ~ while they do share, they don’t approve of the idea of being “forced” to and there is where the resentment is rooted.

        While on the other hand, I resent being seen a “commodity” a expendable, renewable resource. Only as long as I keep breeding and consuming am I seen as having value.

        There is a lot happening on the business front today while the media that you have made your personal choice finds it not in their best interest to report it. Much like Ron Paul, the media did a good enough job of making Ron Paul invisible, the best man for the job of President was hardly a consideration.

        Huge project takes years to get started, ~ we’ve had three. The first tradesmen on any job is the surveyor, then the plumbers, why plumbers ? because water runs down hill, drainage is installed below ground before you ever build, then comes the concrete men and electricians, then the carpenters, roofers, brick layers and painters.

        Today, the bankers, lawyers, politicians, drafting designers, engineers and insurance companies are just finishing up 3 years of planing ~ and why I say, 2013 will be our comeback year.

        It does not matter what you are building, all these events must take place in some orderly workman like fashion.

      • Average Joe

        Deerinwater,

        “But today, Ron Paul is in much the same position as all GOP voters, willing to support his parties candidate at every opportunity”

        Ron Paul is still in the race…Ron Paul is supporting his own platform. Ron Paul did not support McCain in 2008…and he won’t support Romney this time around (if in fact Romney is nominated in August)…I can pretty much guarantee that…..nor will I or pretty much anyone that I know. Paulitically Motivated people are pretty loyal to their candidate.

        You know that first guy on the job?…The Surveyor?…That would be me….and I can tell you from a surveyor’s point of view…things are not looking too promising for 2013…there are too many unfinished and empty housing on the market…for any building to begin. Why is that?…because simply starting construction up again…will only provide temporary jobs…until the next building boom…busts again ( and it will be much more devastating this time)…and then there will be even more vacant real estate…because the jobs..(construction)…are once again…gone.
        Real jobs, manufacturing etc…need to be created first and formost….otherwise you are only creating temporary jobs with no longevity and this cycle will continue to drag us down into economic dispair.
        We need to cut back on regulation and allow business to do what it is supposed to do…create jobs. The government is the problem…not the solution.
        America needs to start producing somthing real again…something other than the transfer of information…which is pretty much all we do as a nation…move information from point A to point B… We have become glorfied pencil pushers…while the rest of the world have started manufacturing products and services……and they are competing against us…but , because we have need to have “things”, “cheap things”…we continue to buy their products…at the expense of our own livelihood….we a re killing ourselves…while standing around blaming someone else for our ills….we did this to us…and continue to do so.
        I am starting to ramble…I’ll stop here.
        Best wishes,
        AJ

  • http://www.facebook.com/tim.littlepage.1 Tim Littlepage

    Romney is just another word for Obama.Same game different name..Ron Paul is the only player that is for Liberty and the Constitution..He has my vote even if I have to write his name on an index card and stick it on the courthouse door

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I agree with you!!!

    • Average Joe

      Absolutely correct!

  • IWG

    Ron Paul or the status quo. No choice.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      You said it!!!

  • Dave67

    LOL… Conservatives want to replace Obama who has killed Osama Bin Laden, turned job losses into gains, reduced the number of Fed Employees on the tax payer’s dime, investing in our long term future while dealing with a record filibuster, credit rating lowering (read the S&P report) obstructionist GOP with a Republican whose top 20 donors are the banks, wall street outfits and investment houses that wrecked the economy in the first place. Romney’s record as Gov? 47th in the nation in job creation, put the HC mandate out there that people in MA like (now to bow to his GOP masters he distances himself from that) and at Bain he picked the bones of companies to make money for himself.

    Real impressive GOP/Conservatives… If Romney wins, we will be returning to the 2001-2006 era of disastrous GOP control where we invaded and occupied a country that did not attack us while doling out tax cuts at the same time and generally being completely inept at everything they touch. But this time of course… Conservatives have a new plan… Tax cuts, more deregulation and reductions in programs for poor and middle class people… Oh wait, that is their old plan that got us into the mess in the first place.

    Get a new record conservatives… yours in broken.

    • Average Joe

      Dave67 ,
      Just curious…what color is the sky in your world? (it’s blue here on Earth).

      • Dave67

        Well Joe, if you bothered to do your own research and not let Fox, Rush etc give you your opinion, you would know the true record of Obama. If you went to Open Secrets and see who is giving money to Romney, you would know who he is going to be the mouthpiece for. But you won’t look that stuff up on your own. You are a good little conservative soldier… Doing as the corporatists instruct… They need more weak spines such as you.

      • Average Joe

        Dave,
        Just a little inside info for you…I don’t watch the MSM….period ( none of them are trustworthy and none of them actually report “NEWS”…simply opinion pieces). If I watch the tube at all…it is usually the SYFY channel ( at least I know it’s fiction….before I turn it on).
        I do my research online…and perfer to hear comments from the horse’s mouth rather than listening to a third party schill giving me their opinion on what was said or done.
        Maybe it is you that should stop watching the MSM?

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • Dave67

        Sorry AJ,

        I do watch Fox, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, BBC, PBS and I understand what spin is. MSNBC and Fox are the worst offenders of spin with Fox being an actual agent for the GOP.

        I also know how to compile data and analyze then come up with conclusions. I know what “context” is. I am subscribing to this newsletter because if my belief’s are worth keeping, they need to be challenged… Unfortunately, most people just want to hear people agree with their version of truth.

        Can you tell me who Romney’s major contributors are? Obama’s? What does that tell you? Since you do online research. Can you tell me what Obama has done that has conservatives in an uproar? Look at Obama’s spending from the real source. Look up how many filibusters the GOP have put forth and compare to the previous administration. Read the S&P report on why the downgraded the United States credit rating.

        Lastly, look up the record of the GOP and you tell me if their policies of deregulation, tax cut and spend and useless wars have helped or hurt this country.

      • Average Joe

        Dave67,

        Who’s better at running Congress?

        Since it’s Congress that sets the spending Budgets, sets the Deficits, and passes legislation affecting jobs and the economy (The President cannot spend one penny that has not been authorized by Congress), let’s look at the record of Congresses over the last 30 years (Through 2010);

        JOBS (39,761,000 Net New Jobs)

        Jobs created when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = 8,100,000 net new jobs.

        Jobs created when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = 21,773,000 net new jobs.

        Jobs created when Congress was split (8 years) = 9,888,000 net new jobs.

        DEFICITS (a) ($7.304 Trillion)

        Total Deficits when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $5.022 Trillion.

        Total Deficits when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $1.219 Trillion.

        Total Deficits when Congress was split (8 years) = $1.063 Trillion.

        NATIONAL DEBT ($12.878 Trillion = 93.4% of all the Debt in our History)

        Total New Debt when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $7.859 Trillion.

        Total New Debt when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $3.238 Trillion.

        Total New Debt when Congress was split (8 years) = $1.781 Trillion.

        ECONOMIC GROWTH ($11.873 Trillion of GDP growth)

        Total Growth (GDP) when Democrats controlled Congress (12 years) = $3.887 Trillion.

        Total Growth (GDP) when Republicans controlled Congress (10 years) = $5.623 Trillion.

        Total Growth (GDP) when Congress was split (8 years) = $2.363 Trillion.

        Draw your own conclusions, but these are undisputed facts from government sources.

        (a) Deficits do not equal the increase in the Debt because of the government’s ‘funny accounting’.

        Sources – Democrats controlled Congress from 1987 – 1994, and from 2007 – 2010.

        Republicans controlled Congress from 1995 – 2000, and from 2003 – 2006.

        There was a split Congress from 1980 – 1986 and for 2001 & 2002
        .

        Links to government data sites are as follows;

        Jobs – http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat1.pdf
        Deficits – http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals See Table 1.1
        National Debt – http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

        Anything else you need help with?

        • Steve L.

          Govt.spending has virtually stopped stayed the same or gone down while Obama has been pres.

      • Dave67

        AJ,

        Did you bother to look at Reagan’s budgets he submitted? Nah…

        Here is the more important questions:

        Who took down the regulations and engaged in non-enforcement that caused the economy to tank in 2008?

        The GOP and Democrats

        Who engaged in “free trade” agreements that subverted our middle class for the betterment of the wealthy?

        The GOP and Democrats

        Who has spent the past 30 years tax cutting and spending their way to the record non WW2 deficit?

        The GOP and Democrats

        Who takes advantage of the best HC plan in the nation (gov run)?

        The GOP and Democrats

        Who takes advantage of legalized insider trading while if you are I did the same, we go to jail?

        The GOP and Democrats

        So I find it funny to here all this anti-Obama pro conservative nonsense when both parties have screwed this nation and the idea that replacing a Dem with a GOPer and vice versa is somehow better.

        We need to outlaw big money in the political process
        We need to disband the FEC
        We need to get rid of all free trade agreements in which we do business with countries that do not play by the same rules as we do.
        We need to break up the banks
        We need higher taxes and less loopholes for the rich
        We need changes to entitlements to get us through the baby-boomer generation
        We need to invest in THIS COUNTRY
        We need to change education where the sign of success in education is the ability to compete in the world stage.

        You spinning stats to show somehow the GOP governs better is laughable.

      • Average Joe

        Steve L. ,
        I am not sure whether I am supposed to laugh at the silliness of that statement….or simply cry over the ignorance of it….

        I put facts on the table…. and you return with your opinion?…..that and $5 will get you a cup of coffee in some places…this isn’t one of those places.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • Average Joe

        Dave67 ,

        Please see my response to SteveL (above)…it also applies to you as well.
        No coffee for thee today…thou doest not appear to be trustworthy…..

      • Sanders

        SteveL,

        WAKE UP! you are having a bad Obummer dream. When Obummer took office the national debt was at 10.6 trillion, it is now at nearly 15.6 trillion. Where I went to school that is 5 trillion additional dollars added to the national debt.

        • Joseph Lundy

          Excuse me but it was President Bush who turned a surplus into the start of the deficit we are facing now. The truth hurst doesn’t it? It was the Republicans who got us into the mess we are in now.

      • Average Joe

        Joseph Lundy ,

        I’m not sure where you went to school…but just a quick piece of education is needed for you. There was no “surplus” when Bush took over…the US has had a debt…since the Federal Reserve came into existence back in 1913 ( actually longer than that). Now, if the country has a debt…then they don’t have a surplus of anything…because the DEBT…is still owed. If you owe the bank $1000 and you decide to pay a payment of half that…and keep the other 500 in your pocket ( for now)…do you now have a surplus?…of course not…you still owe that 500 to the bank….so, you in fact…do not have a surplus of 500…because you still have to pay that back to the bank…that is how our government does business and claims that the 500 they didn’t pay back…as a surplus.
        There is a big difference between debt and deficit….you should learn the difference. Debt…means…you owe money to some entity…..
        Deficit means that you spent more money than you actually took in (in revenue)…therefore, if you exceed the amount that you took in…you must borrow money from some entity…to make up the difference in what you took in vs. what you spend. Bill Clinton did not have a surplus…because we still owed a debt….and instead (using funny government acctounting)…he claimed what he didn’t spend…as a surplus….AKA…misdirection….because the Average American…believes the lies that their elected (?) officials tell them…
        To recap…there was no surplus…and never has been a surplus….only money …that they haven’t spent…YET…………..(key word..YET).
        Now, under Obama, we are averaging about 3 trillion a year in government spending…but the government only takes in about half of that amount yearly…..therefore…they are borrowing the difference ….every year….does that seem sustainable to you?…It doesn’t to me.
        I hope that I have educated you just a little bit about “Surpluses” that don’t exist.
        Once we pay off Approx. 16 trillion in debt….we start looking for “surplus”…until that happens…there isn’t any surplus…nor will there be.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • Average Joe

        Brace yourselves before clicking this link to avoid heart failure

        http://www.usdebtclock.org/

        I wonder if they can spend any faster?

      • JeffH

        Joseph Lundy, really? I don’t think so! The Myth of the Clinton Surplus
        http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

        Time and time again, anyone reading the mainstream news or reading articles on the Internet will read the claim that President Clinton not only balanced the budget, but had a surplus. This is then used as an argument to further highlight the fiscal irresponsibility of the federal government under the Bush administration.

        While not defending the increase of the federal debt under President Bush, it’s curious to see Clinton’s record promoted as having generated a surplus. It never happened. There was never a surplus and the facts support that position. In fact, far from a $360 billion reduction in the national debt in FY1998-FY2000, there was an increase of $281 billion.

        Verifying this is as simple as accessing the U.S. Treasury website where the national debt is updated daily and a history of the debt since January 1993 can be obtained. Considering the government’s fiscal year ends on the last day of September each year, and considering Clinton’s budget proposal in 1993 took effect in October 1993 and concluded September 1994 (FY1994).

    • Doug

      Dave move to China or Cuba with the rest of the Marxist and Communist formally know as the Democrate party. And I got a pair of wing nuts for you suck on punk!

      And Dave you better go back and look at what transpired Bush did not go to war without Congress approval I bet your the best quarter back in the NFL sitting in your Moms basement playing in the inflated big chair your mommy put down in the basement for little troll!

      • Dave67

        Doug, you are a conservobot…. Congress, did they declare war on Iraq? Yes or No? The answer is no… moron. They gave Bush permission to use force if necessary. That war was started by George W Bush after using 9/11 to push fear and vengeance on the American people on a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.

        China? China doesn’t allow unions (you right wing loons love that), China does not have environmental regs (another thing the right love), they do big business’s bidding (another plus in the column in rightieworld…. China is a conservative’s mecca… You and your side have much more in common with China than liberals/the left do in this country. You should buy your ticket to China now… I will throw in a free air mask in for you.

        Dolt.

    • Doug

      Oh and Dave you need to go do some real reseach and find out who controls your clowns string ever heard or Soro’s who turned in is own people, thats who you are bowing too you moran!

    • BK

      Dave,
      First of all Obama didn’t kill Osama Bin Laden, the navy seals did as he sat on his butt in the situation room. What a joke that you say Obama turned job losses into gains, if that were true than the unemployment rate would be lower today than when he first took office, rather than much higher as is the case. You have to look at the net job loss, there have been more lost than gained, so therefore the net is still negative.
      The only reason there has been any reduction of federal employees on the tax payers dime is that they were layed off, or let go for financial reasons, if Obama was able to get his hands on more of our money they would still be working on the taxpayers dime.
      And what got us in this mess in the first place had nothing to do with George Bush, it was guys like your democrapic buddy Barney Frank forcing loans to be made to people who had no ability to repay them in the first place. Who’s drinking the kool-aid, sounds like you are full of it.

      • Dave67

        Yet you and your ilk try and spin it that Ronald Reagan defeated the USSR. Ok there… Obama did what Bush failed to do… That is because Obama put the resources back where they should have been in the first place. Your side can’t stand the fact that the right in this country are horrible at protecting this nation as proven by Reagan in Lebanon and Bush on 9/11 and then using 9/11 to go into Iraq.

        • Steve L.

          Its not the same as Bush go look at what they were hiding. And Obama didn’t win the election “only because he ran against another senator” he won because over 70,000,000 americans voted for him. Thats more votes than any other president in american history. And a minority of special interests and sore losers have denied democracy to those 70+ million voters by stalling any attempt to fix the economy or anything else thats good for the country. All the while talking freedom and democracy and liberty. Watch how many so called americans will go vote for them Again in november. The terrorists in the middle east could only dream of doing the kind of damage to this country that those who have delivered for their money masters have done

      • nc

        Bk, Go back to 2000 and see where bush was campaigning for “more homes for low income citizens” There is video on You Tube where as late as October, 2002 he was giving speeches PRAISNING Fannie and Freedie for their help in making home mortgages more available to the low income folks! HE ESPECIALLY THANKED FANNIE AND FREDDIE FOR THEIR HELP WITH THE LOW INCOME FOLKS WITH ‘BAD CREDIT HISTORIES” which became the MOST TOXIC OF ALL THE MORTGAGES!
        JUST TYPE IN ” GEORGE W BUSH PRAISING FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC”.
        OLD BARNEY ONLY HAD ONE VOTE IN 2001! BUSH HAD THE VETO AND A FELLOW REPUBLICAN HEADING EVERY COMMITTEE IN THE US CONGRESS!!
        Also in 2004 bush sought and signed a bill from the Republican controlled Congress that allowed the use of TAXPAYER’s money to make the DOWN PAYMENT on some low income housing! NOT FRANK AND NOT DODD, BUT “DADDY’S BOY” GEORGE, THE CRAWFORD CRETIN, WAS THE DADDY OF THE SICK PUPPY FISCAL ,FOREIGN, AND DOMESTIC POLICIES THAT WRECKED SILLY WILLY’S ALL TIME BEST ECONOMY!!
        DENIAL IS A FORM OF MENTAL ILLNESS!!

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      What are you smokin?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Then why are you the one that is playing the broken record while telling the Conservatives to get a new one.

    • Average Joe

      Dave67 ,

      Of course I do…..
      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/top-mitt-romney-donors-update

      So on one hand Wall Street, and on the other Law Firms, the Government, and Academia – the four sides of the Status Quo square.

      America: the best place to legally purchase a president.

      Now Dave,can you tell me who Ron Paul’s major contributors are?
      (You know the guy who managed to raise over 6 million dollars in a single day…with the very first…. money bomb?)
      (I’ll give you a hint, I am one of them as are most of my friends and neighbors). …..

      And who is the candidate that gets more contributions from active duty military personel than all of the other candidates combined? ( hint, it isn’t Romney or Obama).

      Best Wishes,
      AJ

      • Dave67

        Ron Paul’s Contributors are small… Ron Paul makes much sense in many areas… The global economy is just not one of them. The Fed needs to be cleaned up and less big bank influence, Drugs do need to be legalized and regulated…

        Trouble is… Paul is not liked in his own party. The GOP are bought and sold by corp America. The Dems only slightly less so. Paul belongs in the Libertarian party of which I agree with some of their positions but not all. Gov is only as good or as bad as we allow it to be. The GOP says the Gov is the problem, they get into power and prove what they say every time.

        We need more serious debate, the kind which Paul and Russ Feingold bring and not the moronic noise that gets perpetuated on mainstream corp media like Fox and MSNBC.

        I am a proud liberal. We need to get back to the liberal principals that ended slavery, got women the right to vote, SS to help stem the tide of elderly destitute living, Medicare…

        But unfortunately the right wing noise machines lies everyday about liberals and what we stand for. We do not stand for big Gov for big Gov’s sake, we do not waht Gov to do everything and to solve all our issues. But Gov does have a constructive role to play like they did when they created the internet, the technology around the space programs etc…

        Unfortunately, people are sold a false bill of good in conservatism as it is practiced in this country.

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear Dave67,

          You write: “The Fed needs to be cleaned up and less big bank influence” You do not know what the Fed is. It is big banks. It is not a Federal agency and it holds no reserves. I offer this for you to begin your education. http://personalliberty.com/2011/11/07/educating-the-95-percent/

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • Average Joe

        Dave67,

        “The global economy is just not one of them. ”

        You do realize that “the global economy is not our problem…right? The only economy that matters to the US….is our own. That is who our government answers to…us
        …not to other nations or organizations….it answers to the American people. How other nations and economies work or don’t work…is soley dependent on their governments and how they choose to manage their economies….the US does not figure into the equation. We are a Sovereign nation…not a global cabal. Our problems are ours…their problems are theirs…
        Pull your collectivst head from your collectivist arse…..this is the American economy…and the rest of the world can eat dirt if they choose to do so….oh wait…they are headed in that direction already…..
        The only thing that will cure our economy…is sound currency….not more….fiat currency. It makes no difference how much money (?) you have…if it isn’t worth anything…and until we figure that out…our economy is doomed….just like Europe’s economy….and when the bottom falls out of FRN’s…..it isn’t going to pretty…for anyone…rich or poor.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • Dave67

        AJ,

        When we sell out our manufacturing base for ” free trade” and people’s pay and benefits go down because of country’s like China, Various countries in Cen America, Asia and Africa put downward pressure on salaries while the price of goods goes up due to greed at the top…

        Yeah, the Global economy is our problem…

      • Average Joe

        Dave67,
        There you go again with your collectivist ramblings…..
        Sorry to disappoint you, but “WE” didn’t sell out anything…to anyone…..our supposed elected officials did that to us (both sides of the aisle). We had no say in the matter. Nice try at misdirection though…
        However…if (as you claim) the global economy is indeed “our” problem, then I believe Ron Paul would be the one to fix that…..unless you somehow believe Romney or Obama will attempt to fix it…..in which case, I have some beautiful beachfront property in downtown Denver for sale….interested?

        I believe that the Founding fathers warned us about this situation….Beware of entangling alliances…

        Best wishes,
        AJ

  • nc

    Question: If, as Vice President, Rubio was faced with casting the tie breaking vote on a very strict immigration bill that would completely close the Mexican border, does he vote ” hispanic brother ” or “party”? As President of the Senate what influence would he have on the language of a bill tough enough to satisfy the wingnuts?

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      nc, “if” is for children, building day-dreams…

    • JeffH

      nc,

    • JeffH

      nc, like Obama, Rubio is not a natural born citizen. Threfore, Rubio can’t become
      V-POTUS according to the Constitution and previous Supreme Court rulings and Obama never should have been allowed to become POTUS either.

      Although it been explained in great detail multiple times here at PLD, I certainly don’t expect that you would be able to understand the reasons.

  • Ann L. Parks

    It is my understanding that even Ron Paul is backing Romney!
    People, you need to do your homework and see that this country is headed for oblivion with the spending that has taken place during this present administration. Obama needs to stop blaming Bush and take ownership for his overspending — to say nothing of his lack of love and admiration for this wonderful country of ours! Bring back patriotism!

    • Dave67

      Another right wing lie… Obama is not overspending… We are in a serious recession and unless you can tell me that during the depression, it was tax cuts, deregulation that got us out of it. You can’t. Obama rate of spending is lower than Bill Clinton who had the lowest rate of any president in the last 30 years. That includes your hero Ronnie (Triple the debt) Reagan.

      The facts are that Ronald Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2′s policies are directly responsible for most of our debt. Can you point to the free spending Obama has done on his own. He has a 800B stimulus that 41% were tax cuts to small business etc… He did another 400B bank bailout which was stupid and much of the rest is due to tax receipt shortage from the unemployment rate that was heading into the stratosphere when he took office. Obama is not a tax and spender… The record does not support your rhetoric.

      Is Obama a great president? No…. We needed Teddy Roosevelt to come in and break up the banks, curtail big money in the political process and put in the right regulations to stop the gaming of the system…We did not get that. But to put Romney in there is going from the frying pan into the fire.

      No thank you.

      • Mirage

        Hey Dave 67 … good for you, you have more patience than me in trying to deal with some of the senior citizen bigots found on this Right Wing Stink Tank site.

        It seems you can present people here with facts, and yet still, many come out with the opinion that George W. and the Right were not to blame for two unnecessary wars, and the Great Depression 2. Some here are even labeling Obama the Anti-Christ!?

        And, you were right …. many in parts of America just cannot accept a 1/2 White-1/2 Black president, and the unprecedented hatred directed at Obama has much to do with his skin tone.

        As an independent, I’m not happy with Obama, but I realize few presidents have ever inherited the juggernaut of a mess that the Republicans left him!

        We do need a “Teddy Roosevelt” type president to break up the banks/Wall Street, but until such a figure appears, there is no way in hell Romney the “Moron” is getting my vote.
        And so, I’m voting for Obama by default. … and praying for OWS type social movements to grow, and take to the streets to force true reform.
        Good Luck.

        • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

          Mirage, what a name (It means not true or not there). Well, if you vote for the Community Organizer you are going to be among those that don’t care what this GREAT NATION will be come. I have a feeling the Os do not care about the US of A or its Constitution they are only drunk on the Power that the Office of the Presidency gives them and will do and say anything to stay in power.

          Send them back to the Mob Capital of the US, you know Chicago! Oh, yeah, get rid of that idiot Holder also (He needs to be behind bars.).

      • Flashy

        The increase in spending under this administration is the lowest in the past 50 years. it’s almost a flat line. That includes the stimulus package. But pesky facts keep from a good rant by these folks…The vast majority of our debt has been the result of Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. To be fair to Bush I, he inherited the fiasco Reagan left him.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        The increase in spending under this administration is the highest in the past 50 years. it’s almost out of control. That includes the stimulus package. But pesky facts keep from a good rant by socialist progressives…The vast majority of our debt has been the result of Obama, period. To be fair to Obama, he has no say in the matter.

      • Cheerio

        The repubs and the demos are the same! This class warfare is socialism at its finest, don’t you see? Create the chaos, the bickering, the left vs right, blank vs blank, keep us against ourselves- divide, then conquer…

        Ron Paul and the message of freedom is it, there is nothing else but tyranny and enslavement.

        We the people and the Constitution are all we have left. If Right and Left don’t come together in this we all lose.

        L & R stop being spoon fed the lies think for yourself. Politicians ( we let them ) have over printed and spent us in to oblivion.

        We are forced into the 2 party system get your head out of the prop o ganda, wake up it is almost too late….

    • Average Joe

      “It is my understanding that even Ron Paul is backing Romney!”

      Your understanding would be completely and utterly….wrong. While Rand Paul has stated that he will support Romney, Ron Paul …has said no such thing. You may want to re-evaluate your informational sources…they have lied to you.

      Best wishes,
      AJ

    • Sanders

      Dave67, you lie like a rug when you say you don’t listen to and fall for the Obummer hype in the “news”. You have fallen for the percentage trick that Obummer has been running in the MSM. The hard facts are impossible to deny. Those facts are: National debt as of Jan 2009 = 10.6 trillion, National debt today just under 15.6 trillion. That is 5 trillion dollars of additional debt. That equals half of the national debt that was accumulated over more than 200 years, all in 3.5 yrs. Now that is real math and a real tragedy.

      • Average Joe

        Sanders ,
        I posted a link above for the national debt clock…15.8 trillion and counting. Check it out…dizzying how fast they can spend (OUR) money.

        http://www.usdebtclock.org/

  • tony rinna

    The defeat obama vid would not finish playing would stop in middle tried 4 times is big gov’t stopping it, please send it to my e-mail, tonyrocco68@gmail.com

  • Mary Hill

    Are you people rich? Well, you better understand Romney only cares about the rich!!! If you aint got a lot ot money , you mighnt as well be Black or Hispanic because Romney is not for you !

  • http://madgorilla.wordpress.com madgorilla

    That’s all Jim Dandy and peachy keen, Wayne, but you’re forgetting that Marco Rubio is NOT ELIGIBLE to be VP or President. He is not a natural born citizen because his parents were NOT CITIZENS AT THE TIME OF HIS BIRTH. I like Marco Rubio. He’s a great senator, but he can’t be president.

    • tncdel

      Wayne Allyn Root is a TRAITOR to America who puts the interests of foreign nationals ahead of America’s best interests. No way to sugar-coat the fact that he supports the TRAITOR Mario Rubio, who wants to attract more job-stealing illegals here with amnesty and the Dream Act.

      • JeffH

        tncdel, of course you can prove all of that?

  • nc

    The last time Americans had a chance to voice an opinion of the Wayne Allen Root political “OPINION” (2008) , OVER 99.6% OF THOSE VOTING CHOSE A DIFFERENT OPINION!

  • Nancy in Nebraska

    Here’s the thing, people! It’s all a scam! romney was chosen as the candidate before the primaries even started. It was apparent to me by the crap I was getting from the republican party. The agenda of the “elite” will go forward no matter who is elected. Seriously, there is NO difference! It is all a distraction! You know as well as I do that the problems we face have been caused equally by the democrats and the republicans. The national debt skyrockets under BOTH parties. Our rights were taken away by BOTH parties! The laws and regulations that control every part of our lives have been passed by BOTH parties! The wars go on and on regardless of which party is in control. We have rarely been out of war. BOTH parties have robbed us blind! They have BOTH stolen our money and given it to their cronies! The reason both the liberals and the conservatives on this site argue with such justification is because BOTH parties have done us wrong! We will never be allowed a candidate who represents us! The whole issue of rubio being named the VP is also a scam! The only reason to name a non natural born candidate is to justify the non natural born obummer? Are we that stupid?!? If the republicans accept a non legitimate candidate then they can’t complain about obummer’s nonlegitimacy, right? Neither romney nor obummer will represent the American people! They represent those who pull the strings from behind the scenes. To engage in political discourse about which candidate will be better is to prove that we are naive and have fallen for their ploy! BOTH candidates are the same! BOTH parties are the same! They BOTH follow the same agenda, to steal EVERYTHING from us and gain POWER over us! They enslave us! We work to barely get by as they live in the lap of luxury! Open your eyes, people! As long as you believe you have a choice, you are sheeple to be led to the slaughter! This is NOT a government OF the people, BY the people, FOR the people!

    • Daveh234

      I finally agree with Nancy. I have been saying the same thing with different leanings.
      Basically, lobbyists and funding forcing politicians to do their bidding.
      I feel it gets worse this go round because of the PAC’s unlimited donations. More pandering to the richest and active supporters. Not govt. for the average Joe, the above average Joe. Sadly the rich get the nod because they can’t be beat on their monetary support this election.
      Why does a Billion dollars have to be spent by PAC’s to get their way?
      The statewide races are spending even more than we’ll see in the presidential election.
      It’s not what we were taught in civics class and what I was taught to believe in as I grew up.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Now I really have to worry, if you agree with me! LOL!!!

      • uvuvuv

        civics class? hah? i had civics in 1963, are they still teaching that? who wudda thunk? it’s odd how the kennedys are or were made out to be deities, and they were fabulously wealthy. you have to give john jr credit, he did try going it on his own. and then the people magazine set, it’s okay for them to be rich, in fact they’re worshipped for it. by the way dave, today the new peoples come out! bill gates writes a few lines of progamming and could buy hawaii, but no complaint there. people have pictures of george soros on their walls, who with his currency exchange shenanigans brought us the europe we have today. but mitt romney is rich and oh geez, what a slug, he’s wall street instead of main street!!!! i agree that there are capitalization firms that are crooks, they buy companies out and slice and dice them, leaving the employees destitute either through losing their jobs or their pensions or both. but others out of a sense of personal ethics constructively try to work for everyone’s benefit, even to get the companies back on their feet, and i would guess that messr romney is one of these. let’s put it this way, make him the president of haiti and come back in 2 years. it would be a tropical gem. but you don’t have to try the experiment with obama, if he’s re-elected he will have haiti right here.

        • Steve L.

          People don’t dilike Rommney because he’s rich, they dislike him because thats who he plans on representing if president and they same policies that brought about the depression we are in.

    • Average Joe

      Nancy in Nebraska,

      I heard that one go zzzziiiinnngggg a you hit that nail on the head!

      It’s a shame that more people…don’t get it…… ( although you do get extra kudo’s for geeting another non-believer to agree with you) …there is hope ( however miniscule).
      ;)

      Best wishes,
      AJ

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Thanks, Joe. We really need to wake people up or nothing will change. We’ll be arguing about the same things forever. People need to see the REAL picture.

      • Average Joe

        “We’ll be arguing about the same things forever. ”

        I don’t know about forever…I am starting to believe the Mayan Calender…may be on the money…This year may just be the end of the world as we know it. TPTB seem to be intent on a “One World Government” and considering the sheer number of uninformed masses…they are likely to get it by the end of the year.
        May God have mercy on us all.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

  • mark

    Keep dreaming Mr. Root. In all likelihood, Obama will win a close reelection with around 50.5% of the popular vote and 285 electoral votes.

  • gwen rocha

    Obama-is he above the law,protection of illigals by we having pay,attacking ower religious rights,ower country is
    In turmoil he go’s on a vacation,
    And SPEND SPEND he has no limit,it’s ower money . Dose not know the construction and clearly
    Dose not care.

  • Harry

    The bird brain bloggers are sticking with their idol Obama no matter what. Common sense is not part of their mental make-up They are human parasites who have bought into Obama’s tirade against capitalism.
    Don’t waste your time arguing with them or the other bird brains who want to vote for a 3rd party and guarantee a win for Obama and his crooks in the White Houde..

  • Ron

    Mitt Romney is GOING to win. And it doesn’t change anything. It doesn’t solve the problem. And it doesn’t save us from the vast, nefarious conspiracy that is driving the Nation Formerly Known As America into decrepitude and decay.

    Dwight Eisenhower, the last honest Republican (though he certainly had his flaws) gave the first “Farewell Address” in American history since George Washington–which was roughly equivalent to saying “If I’m doing this for the first time in almost 200 years, you probably should listen to what I have to say, since the last time someone did this, it was to similarly issue a warning about the serious choices which lay ahead for the nation.”

    And here’s what Ike chose to discuss, now that he has your attention:

    “This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government.
    We recognize the imperative need for this development.

    Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications.

    Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.”

    Unfortunately, the message is lost in all the latest “Fast and Furious” and “Birther” and “Obama Mama Mandingo Porn Photo Orgy Whoredom”, etc. “scandals”:

    America is not going to be overthrown from the armed and rage-filled radical right or the limp-wrist-hand-wringing left.

    America has already been overthrown.

    –Or maybe victim to a hostile corporate takeover is a better way to describe America, Inc.–the Nation Formerly Known As The United States.

    The model for how it works is already in the history books–because we did it to lots of other third-world countries. ‘Coupla examples that we know about, thanks to the Church Committees “apology tour” in the ’70s:

    When Mohammed Mossadegh decided that he didn’t want British Petroleum stealing the Iranian people’s oil from beneath their soil for pennies on the dollar, the U.S. used the C.I.A. to overthrow his democratically elected government and replace him with a bloodthirsty, ne’er-do-well rich-kid playboy named Mohammed Reza Pahlavi.

    Freedom-loving democratic, anti-monarchists that we are, we overthrew their elected “president” and replaced him with an autocratic “Shah”–Persian for “king”.

    While he proceeded to torture and kill and exploit the Iranian people for generations, he was nevertheless GOOD FOR BUSINESS, and he made sure our friends from the gulf oil spill got their money pipe flowing again. Heck, had Joe Barton been there, he might’ve even apologized to B.P. for the inconvenience of Iran’s flirtation with democracy.

    That was so much fun and pro-business, we decided to try it again. In Guatemala, the foolish people experimented with democracy once again and elected a president who began proposing policies “unfriendly” to United Fruit Company (today: Chiquita Brands International –NYSE: CQB). The result was predictable. America overthrew him and replaced him with generations of right-wing, pro-bid’ness rulers who bullied and killed the Guatemalan people.

    So. Creating a “Business-friendly environment” in a given nation frequently involves the “acquistion of unwarranted influence” and “disastrous rise of misplaced power” which frequently does NOT have the interests of the co-inhabitants of said nation in mind. The people are there to serve the Corporations, and the policies of the government are driven to coddle and supply socialist welfare to people who place their hands over their hearts and pledge allegiance, not to the nation in which they do business, but to their shareholders.

    It isn’t that we hate Socialism per se. We like it when the assets of the nation are expended creating infrastructure and supporting and subsidizing Big Business. We celebrate them as “job creators” even while they’re pulling the natural resources out of our land and dumping them on the world market to the highest bidder, pocketing the profits, dodging the taxes and doing EXACTLY what we did to all those third world countries–looting the place for pennies on the dollar from the stupid pickininnies who happen to live there.

    Only in the finale, we will be the pickininnies.

    We have been conquered and we don’t even realize it. The Supreme Court has been purchased, the “election” will now go to the highest bidder, and if anyone starts to get wise to it, we dredge up crazy scandals or we wrap our hineys in the flag and go to war with someone. Anyone. Anyone will do, as long as it continues the distraction. We must not face the military-industrial complex, the healthcare-industrial complex, the foodchain-industrial complex, or the protest-industrial complex (FreedomWorks and MoveOn come to mind).

    We ARE a Jihadist Theocracy in America, not the pluralistic, multi-cultural melting pot of religious and cultural tolerance the founding fathers established. We are as fanatical and willing to die for our god as any wacky Muslim with 10 lbs. of C4 on his chest. All you have to do is visit sites like this one to see the religious zeal flaming up to do death to The Infidel.

    …Only the religion we are willing to engage in Jihad for is capitalism–the belief that the One God, the only thing that matters, is turning everything we touch into legal tender by Any Means Necessary.

    I apologize if this offends the “mullahs”, and I’ll accept whatever fatwa may be imposed upon me for quoting the Infidel, Eisenhower.

    • http://www.politicosense.blog.com Johnnie

      Lots of unnecessary rambling to make a point don’t you think?

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Excellent post, Ron!

    • Average Joe

      Ron ,
      Well stated! Bravo!!

  • Steve E

    Ron Paul would be a good choice for VP. He will get some of the votes that would normally go Obama’s way if he was in the running.

    • tncdel

      VP is largely a figurehead spot. I’d rather see Ron Paul as Secretary of the Treasury with power over the Federal Reserve calling for an audit of it.

      • uvuvuv

        good idea and in fact dump bernanake and put rp in his place

      • Steve E

        That will work.

    • r.p.

      I’d rather see Ron Paul as president. He’s the only one qualified to be president of the Constitutional Republic.

  • uvuvuv

    nancy in nebraska, where in nebraska. anyway, they are not the same. one party advocates killing babies, the other does not. no one can dispute this. one is pushing for gay marriage, the other is not. one is championing the illegals (the worthy illegals for now), the other is not. and one party would be just tickled if all 12 year olds were using, using, birth control. that’s why they teach it in schools. and one party carries a hatred for the evangelicals. those bible thumping gun toting right wing narrow minded book avoiding bigots, right? oh sure, the dems can be seen in churches, but they’re just there for insurance, you know, just in case…

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Omaha! And they are the same! It’s just a case of something for everyone! Even though they appear to be different on the outside, their agenda is one and the same! Don’t you see it? Nothing changes! The agenda goes forward! No one is happy with it but as long as we can each blame the other side, no one has to accept responsibility for it! Look behind the curtain! All is NOT as it seems!

      • uvuvuv

        omaha, founded by the mormons in their westward trek, they called it winter quarters. i am one of the few who drives through nebraska and likes it. i am thinking of pulling my trailer to ogallala or kearney, and i wish you were from either of them to give me some pointers. i like nebraska because it is an almost exact profile of the burlington zephyr. omaha is a proud and sprawling city. i think it would do better with mitt romney as mayor than barack obama.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Omaha wasn’t “founded” by the Mormans. It is however where they made their winter quarters on their way west. And I’ve spent a lot of time out in the western part of the state. My son lives in the western part of the state. I recommend the Kearney area. I much prefer it to the Ogalala area. The people around Kearney are really nice and friendly which I can’t say about the people from the Ogalala area. Of course, I haven’t run into many English speaking people in the Ogalala area. There is Lake McConahey (I know I spelled it wrong, don’t want to look it up) in the Ogalala area but I don’t like it. A lot of gangs and hooligans hang out there. And I think it’s a yucky lake. A good area for hunting, but I don’t hunt. Anyway, I recommend the Kearney area.

  • richaboli

    Because capitalism isn’t perfect every form of socialism has been tried in this world. And guess what? The poor has much less every time. The poor have no microwaves, no TV’s, no furnaces. The lesson here is this:
    If you hate capitalism, go there to try it. Don’t bring it into this country then discover it isn’t what you thought it would be..

  • Dennis

    Obama is the worst president this country has ever had. I would never vote for Obama in November and will vote for anyone and anything that is running against him. However, I lived in Massachusetts under Romney. On a scale of 0 to 10, I give Obama a zero but I can only give Romney no better than a 3, maybe, more like a 2 or even a one. Why could not the GOP come up with someone better than Romney? We don’t have much of a choice here.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      You don’t get a choice because THEY don’t want you to have a choice! You get the ILLUSION of choice!!! BOTH candidates and BOTH parties are operating under the SAME agenda! BOTH PARTIES have been infiltrated! They care only about themselves and their agenda! You and I are just the sheeple who work to provide them with what they want!

      • Dave67

        Nancy,

        The answer is to vote 3rd party. The corp shills known as the “tea party” are just doing the unwitting bidding of the corp masters in the GOP. I am not a Democrats because they like the GOP are full of corporatists.

        Romney would be a further disaster for this country. Vote liberal.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Dave, 3rd party doesn’t stand a chance in he!! And I wouldn’t vote liberal if my life depended on it!!!

      • Dave67

        Nancy,

        Do me a favor… Define “Liberal” for me as you understand it,

        What do we stand for?
        What do we like?
        What so we dislike?
        What is the liberal tradition of America?

        Can you answer?

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Dave67, this is my opinion of a liberal. A liberal wants everything to be fair. It’s not fair if some people have a lot more than others. A liberal wants everybody to share. They think that people who don’t work should get a free place to live, free food, free cell phones, free utilities, free education, free birth control…you get the point. They think it’s perfectly fine for the government to regulate other people, such as business owners with the epa, osha, fda etc… But they sure don’t want regulations put on them, ie abortion, gay marriage, etc…they want to be able to say whatever they want but won’t tolerate anyone talking about GOD or allow anything such as a cross, a nativity or The Ten Commandments to even be seen by those who don’t believe. They think that people who make more money should pay more taxes. I think that a flat rate where everyone pays the same percentage is the only fair thing. They think that the government can take care of people better than they can take care of themselves. They think that the government ie taxpayers should pay for everything they want, ie art, stadiums, arenas, planetariums, arboretums etc…even when we can’t afford them. They think that that global warming is real and is not caused by the government. They think that we should all go green regardless of the fact that we can’t afford it. They don’t care whether we can afford it or not we can just rack up the debt. They don’t care that the national debt is over 15trillion and the unfunded mandates are over 100trillion. They still want free healthcare for all. They don’t care that we can’t pay or it. Let’s just tax the rich. If we taxed the rich at 100% it still wouldn’t be enough to pay off the debt. Anyway, I could go on but I don’t want to!

        • macgyver1948

          Nancy in Nebraska… Wow, you are now writing the dictionary for liberal thinking and beliefs. This is waht I see in many GOP TP supporters, they can make stuff up for others and mind read.

          Fact is most liberals see “FAIR” as how it applies to all of us equally. I do not see evil in having loads of money if the wealthy person came by it morally, ethically and legally and honorably. And they continue in those manners to get more money. I see fair and realistic wages but many TP and GOP see what the big corporations want, to pay as little as possible and to get 200% work effort out of the employee/associate.

          I could go on but since you think you know the minds and beliefs of others I doubt the reality would get through to p[eople like you – The kind who believes “only our ways and beliefs are the right ways for all”. I hate it when I see religious organizations do this and I hate it when I see political ones as well show their pompous attitudes.

          I respect other peoples beliefs and values, for them, but that too is something it seems you would fight against if they wouldn’t agree with how you see things. I see you as a typical Tea Party GOPer and that should scare the hell out of any who believe in liberty and Democracy….

          Did any of my typos offend you? You just do not seem to get it but at least you can read minds and determine what other people mean.

        • Maryland Freestater

          Nancy said, “Dave67, this is my opinion of a liberal. A liberal wants everything to be fair. It’s not fair if some people have a lot more than others. A liberal wants everybody to share. They think that people who don’t work should get a free place to live, free food, free cell phones, free utilities, free education, free birth control…you get the point. They think it’s perfectly fine for the government to regulate other people, such as business owners with the epa, osha, fda etc… But they sure don’t want regulations put on them, ie abortion, gay marriage, etc…they want to be able to say whatever they want but won’t tolerate anyone talking about GOD or allow anything such as a cross, a nativity or The Ten Commandments to even be seen by those who don’t believe. They think that people who make more money should pay more taxes. I think that a flat rate where everyone pays the same percentage is the only fair thing. They think that the government can take care of people better than they can take care of themselves. They think that the government ie taxpayers should pay for everything they want, ie art, stadiums, arenas, planetariums, arboretums etc…even when we can’t afford them. They think that that global warming is real and is not caused by the government. They think that we should all go green regardless of the fact that we can’t afford it. They don’t care whether we can afford it or not we can just rack up the debt. They don’t care that the national debt is over 15trillion and the unfunded mandates are over 100trillion. They still want free healthcare for all. They don’t care that we can’t pay or it. Let’s just tax the rich. If we taxed the rich at 100% it still wouldn’t be enough to pay off the debt. Anyway, I could go on but I don’t want to!”

          Actually, I’d kinda like to hear more! You’ve said a lot of things I believe to be true, and very to the point. I think ‘liberals’ are in a river in Egypt or are suffering from some sort of selective dementia. We have reached a tipping point and we either need to back away somehow OR I believe the American Civilization is going to collapse. That ‘libs’ can’t comprehend the cause and effects of this is mind-boggling – it reminds me of the old saw that insanity is the definition of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

          Or for those sci-fi fans here, something from ‘The Mote in God’s Eye’ – Crazy Eddie.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Macgyver, he asked for my opinion and I gave it! I don’t care whether you like it or not! The programs I spoke of were liberal programs. I don’t think you could find a conservative who thinks that we should give everything to everybody. I find it curious though, that you accuse everyone who disagrees with you of being a TPer. You obviously have fallen for the lies of the liberal media when it comes to the Tea Party. I attended two Tea Parties the first year they had them. There were black people and white people. Most people were over the age of fifty. Everyone was very well behaved. Our senators and congressmen made their speeches right along with everyone else. It was very patriotic! Everyone there loved our country! I’ll bet you’ve never even been to a Tea Party but you sure like to act like you know what you’re talking about! If you had ever been to a Tea Party you would know that it’s not an insult to be called a TPer!

      • Dave67

        Well, Nancy… Today is your lucky day. I will clear up many of the lies that were sold to you about liberals.

        1) we do strive for a society that is more fair to everyone. And the problem there is?

        2) we want to give free stuff to everyone that doesn’t work? Where do you get this crap from? Yes we want free hc paid for by taxes because bc is less expensive than raising a child when people are not ready for a family. The rest is pure nonsense. We do want a safety net when people fall on hard times but it not a lifestyle.

        3)same sex marriage harms no one.

        4) god, we believe you can believe in Jesus Christ, Buddha, the tree god anything you want and feel free to talk about it. Where we have an issue is when it is involved with the gov. Religion and gov do not mix.

        More later

      • Dave67

        To Continue Nancy,

        Liberals do care about the deficit. We are paying 60 year low taxes, getting involved in nonsense wars like Iraq and Vietnam while keeping entitlements, farm subsidies etc… We can’t do it all… So we need a balanced approach of tax hikes on the wealthy, ending of farm subsidies, the defense budget needs to be reduced to 300B a year, entitlements needs to be changed to deal with the baby boomer generation. The conservatives just see the need to cut entitlements. The numbers just don’t add up. The wealthy have the political access to change the laws yet you want to protect these people. They did not get to where they are alone no matter how much you believe the contrary.

        Cleaner energy and Global warming…. I fail to see the issue with wanting to cut world pollution. Is there a bad thing there? Now as far as can we afford it? Lets take the subsidies we pay to oil and farms not to grow good food and put it to clean energy investments and as the industry grows, it becomes more affordable. Solar is the most affordable it has ever been due to Obama’s investments. Global Warming… Liberals understand that the earth goes through warming and cooling phases naturally. The difference today is we have farming on a huge scale and industry that puts variables into the mix that we have no idea about the ramifications. The CONSERVATIVE thing would be to conserve energy with that reality in mind but for some reason, conservatives hate to conserve.

        Liberals believe in freedom with responsibility and putting this country first… Of course you never hear about the responsibility bit because you have your opinion of liberals from fellow conservatives and they would never lie about liberals would they?

        I hoe this information can counter some of the brainwashing you have had concerning liberals.

        Now lets talk about the history of liberalism.

        Liberals pushed to end slavery (what were the conservatives of the day doing? Trying to keep it)
        Liberals fought to get the right to vote to women (What were conservatives of that day doing?)
        Liberals fought for equal rights for minorities in the 1960′s and 1970′s (Can you name a conservative of that time who pushed that agenda?)
        Liberals got Medicare and SS to the nation… two of the most populat Gov programs that have ever came across.
        Liberals pushed for women to have control over their bodies and their reproductive health (conservatives on the issue?)
        Today, liberals fight for same sex marriage (Conservatives only have their bigotry to counter with unless you can show where same sex marriage harms you, your marriage and society)
        Liberals also want to see an end to the failed war on drugs. Take the profit motive out of the equation and the drug gangs will have to find other means of work and there will be alot less killing in the streets. (If people do not know drugs are bad by now, then there is no hope for them because we believe in this personal responsibility thing)

        So take this info, learn from it or disguard it. Just know your opinions of liberals are “off” and you probably have more in common with liberals that you care to admit to.

    • Dave67

      I guess Dennis was not in this country from 2001-2008. See we had this moron in the WH…

      Our Spyplane got taken over by the Chinese and disected for our technology.
      This moron ignored warnings of 9-11 and allowed 3000 people to die due to his negligence.
      Then this idiot used 9-11 to invade and occupy Iraq to the tune of 3T when it is all said and done.
      While we were in two wars… this economic moron passes tax cuts… (has that ever been done before in wartime?)
      Took all the world goodwill after we were attacked and trashed it all due to his stupidity and arrogance.
      He puts someone with a resume that includes horse shows in charge of FEMA and had a HUGE failure when dealing with Katrina.
      A complete failure in diplomacy
      Outed a CIA operative
      Religious litmus test in the DOJ.
      Doubled the National debt
      Continued the policies that led to the economic collapse of 2008.

      But Dennis says Obama is the worst…

      Ok Dennis… lay out the case.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        You prove my point!

      • Dave67

        Nancy,

        Do you have a point?

        Still have yet to hear the litany of bad things Obama has done to warrant “worst president”. I gave you a compelling list for what Bush 2 has done…

        Funny, not one GOPer is running as a Bush 2 Republican… Why could that be?

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Listen carefully! I will say it again! There is NO difference between the republicans and the democrats! They BOTH follow the same agenda which includes taking away our rights and robbing us blind!!! THAT IS MY POINT!!!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        BTW, I COULD write a book about all the ways obummer’s stolen from us, taken away our rights and done illegal things but I just don’t care enough about you to give the time it would take. It’s just not worth it and doesn’t really matter anyway.

      • Dave67

        Geez Nancy,

        Obama has stolen from us??? Give me a break…. You want the system more fair? Demand Congress to Overturn Citizen’s United and to get big money out of the system. Hold Congress accountable for living by one set of rules but having the rest of us on a different standard.

        End corporatism….

  • Elizabeth Sloot

    I get sick and tired of listening to comments blaming the Democrats and then the Republicans. When are you people going to wake up? There is no differance between the two parties. They both are Globlists and seek the same goals.

    • http://wildeyguns,com Wildey

      Elizabeth Sloot, You got it. They are republicrats working toward their own interest. Ron Paul decided to work on the inside of the Republican party rather than starting a third party. DC is another country feeding off the American people. It does not represent real God fearing members of the American Constitutional Republic.

  • r.p.

    Rubio???????????? Gimmeyabreak!! First and foremost he’s not eligible. Because of Obama’s ineligibility and congress’ failure to act in disqualifying him, it has set precedence and natural born is no longer an issue. We might as well elect the queen of England or maybe Vladimir Putin. Because of Obama they are now qualified. Mr. Root; you are now officially considered senile. Rubio voted for the extension of the Patriot Act, the NDAA, SOPA, and the Expatriation Act. Plus he want’s to attack Iran and Syria…….WOW!!! You don’t play chess with the Constitution!

    • Average Joe

      r.p.,
      Thank you! Well played!

      Dare I say it?……Dear Mr. Root, you’ve just been…Checkmated! Better luck in your next game……

      • Average Joe

        BTW, Mr. Root, I do not suggest that you take up baseball…this is your second (credibility) strike…one more and you are……….OUT!

      • Steve L.

        You can’t really be that ignorant

      • Average Joe

        Steve L. ,

        Not sure who you are replying to…but if it is me… there is no ignorance at all in my post. However, considering your intelligent response and legnthy refutations of my statements, I must wonder if you are “that ignorant”?…at this point, I would have to say yes…..yes you most likely….are…..

        Best wishes,
        AJ

    • tncdel

      Root is a TRAITOR to America who puts the interests of foreign nationals ahead of America’s best interests. No way to sugar-coat the fact that he supports the TRAITOR Mario Rubio, who wants to attract more job-stealing illegals here with amnesty and the Dream Act.

      Allen West is who Romney should pick as VP. West’s loyalty to America is unquestionable, having laid his own life on the line for America countless times during SIX tours of duty in the Middle-East.

      West would also help Romney siphon away a couple million of the 12 million black votes Obama will otherwise get. Especially in the Bible Belt states.

  • James

    And who cares if Mitt wins the election? I don’t. It’s not like it is a win for us. This is sick. Romney standing in the background, like he does all the time, wow (feigned excitement).

  • Anthony Noel

    Dear fellow citzens?
    What is really going on? Are that scared that we have to lie? Since the early daysof Obama being elected did not the republican leadership say the number 1 priority is to get rid of Obama?
    It is sad that we are focused on name calling and not pay any attention to the facts on what is going on in the global ecenomy.

  • Whatzrname

    To those who say obummer bailed out GM- one word for you-tsunami- which cause all the japanese manufacturers to have to stop/slow down production last year-so GM (government motors) didn’t get their competition- too many people drinking his koolaid- you can’t fix stupid-

    • Steve L.

      Your comment and stupid explanation shows that no matter what good the president does someone will come out with some lame idea why they say he didn’t .

  • BenJewell

    BJ
    Dave…take a quick look at http://www.WhatEverHappenToCommonSense.com

  • tncdel

    Wayne Allyn Root is a TRAITOR to America who puts the interests of foreign nationals ahead of America’s best interests. No way to sugar-coat the fact that he supports the TRAITOR Mario Rubio, who wants to attract more job-stealing illegals here with amnesty and the Dream Act.

    Allen West is who Romney should pick as VP. West’s loyalty to America is unquestionable, having laid his own life on the line for America countless times during SIX tours of duty in the Middle-East.

    West would also help Romney siphon away a couple million of the 12 million black votes Obama will otherwise get. Especially in the Bible Belt states.

  • http://wildeyguns,com Wildey

    Sure people want to replace Obama but that can’t be their only goal. Clinton begat Bush and until Obama, Bush created more damage to our Constitution than any president. He also was the head on the league on our road to financial disaster. He laid out the red carpet for Obama by giving him all the executive power he amassed. What do you know about the ego maniac Romney? Have you read his resume? Now if we can get rid of Obama and replace him with Ron Paul then we will have accomplished something.

  • Travelwise42

    I don’t know why this pretender is fund raising and trying to be RE-elected…he could be president NOW if he knew how!

  • travelwise42

    Anybody that thinks Obama & Romney are just alike have gone adrift from their moorings and a vote for Ron Paul is a gift to Obama.

    I’ve never seen so many Leftist trolls with nothing to do but hang out at a Conservative site and show each other their warts!

    • Average Joe

      “Anybody that thinks Obama & Romney are just alike have gone adrift from their moorings and a vote for Ron Paul is a gift to Obama.”

      Anybody who thinks that Obama and Romney are different…..has always been adrift and have never had any moorings at all.

      “I’ve never seen so many Leftist trolls with nothing to do but hang out at a Conservative site and show each other their warts!”

      Maybe it is time that you stopped trolling…don’t you think?

      BTW, a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for…Ron Paul. It is also a vote against all other candidates.
      Just because you follow the rats into the river, doesn’t mean the rest of us are going to follow…deal with it.
      I have invited you to tell us all about Romney’s virtues…you still haven’t done that…but you keep putting on the broken record of ….”don’t vote for Ron Paul”. Sorry to say…you give me no reason to vote for Romney. Simply telling me your opinion doesn’t make me want to vote for “Obamney”…..it only confirms my conviction to vote for Ron Paul. Give us something to work with…if you wish to change hearts and minds….something other than your opinion will be needed.

      Best wishes,
      AJ

      • Norm

        Average Joe
        Don’t let anybody confuse you with facts!

      • Average Joe

        Norm ,

        First someone needs to come up with some…in order to confuse me with any…got any facts Norm?……I thought not……

        Best wishes,
        AJ

    • MAP

      I agree with you, travelwise, wholeheartedly. What is it that brings this vermin here? I don’t know, though I’ve often enough wondered. They obviously aren’t here to learn anything. They continuously reiterate the same absurd nonsense everyday on every thread. Some of the things are so obviously stupid, it makes you wonder if they really believe it themselves. Flushy above stated that the far-left scoundrel in the WH is actually a moderate conservative! Truth means nothing to these deranged idiots. Why are they here? Beats me. Having never once visited a liberal/communist site, I had no idea what type of delusional morons existed on the left. Most of them are here everyday, spouting the same nonsense. There’s Flushy, Eddie49, Deerintrouble, NC, Dave67, moron Mark…I’m sure I’ve probably missed some. A larger pack of annoying idiots I’ve never seen.

      • Dave67

        LOL… and we don’t hear the same upchuck from you, Nancy from Neb, FF and the whole host of others over and over again. Same crap, different post… Your “opinions” are just repost Drudge, Rush, Fox, Breitbart, Heritage Foundation and Freedomworks

        Sorry if we don’t get on the conservative BS bandwagon and have a view thoughts that differ from your awesome intellect there genius.

        Your fear-mongering, exaggerations and lies have no affect on me.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Thanks Dave for including me. I’m honored. FYI though, the only times I have ever gone to any of those sites is if I’m following someone else’s link.

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        It’s so nice to know that I’m remembered. :-)

  • http://www.politicosense.blog.com Johnnie

    More racist claptrap from a degenerate mind. Dream on, Losers. Boy, it’s amazing how your brains work…..

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Yes, it is amazing isn’t it? Too bad your brain doesn’t work at all. And of course, you like the other liberals call anybody who doesn’t agree with you, a racist! I think that makes YOU a racist!!! But it is pitiful that, that’s all you can come up with!

  • Jeremy Leochner

    I will say this.

    1: Obama does have plans to help Americans in general. It takes time to get out of a bad economic situation. Not getting out of a recession fast enough does not mean Obama does not have a plan to.

    2: Obama’s policies are not about dividing Americans. He takes stands, often controversial ones, on divisive issues. Wanting to believe what you believe does not mean your trying to divide people.

    3: Obamas decision on illegal immigrants was partly out of a desire for votes. However it was out of genuine desire to prevent unnecessary deportations. Since 2010 Obama has wanted to implement a policy such as this but was stopped by a bad economy and by congress not passing the dream act. A poll showed that Obama had a nearly 60 point lead among latino’s before the policy was implemented. He did not need to implement this kind of policy to gain their vote.

    4: Obama is not trying to destroy the private sector or free enterprise. Requiring corporations to contribute is not the same as a war on success.

    5: So Mr. Roots suggestion for countering cynical partisan politics is to engage in cynical partisan politics. With respect to Mr. Root it sounds hypocritical to me to engage in the very tactics you accuse your opponent of committing.

    • Average Joe

      As usual Jeremy, your drivel makes me…..
      Yawn………

      Best wishes,
      AJ

      • Norm

        Anything logical would would make you yawn.

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I did not realize questioning what I hear was drivel. What exactly did I say that was so nonsensical.

    • Average Joe

      Jeremy Leochner,

      You spoke …right? everyone here (with few exceptions) knows your usual oratory Jeremy….and we expect no less than your usual….drivel. (the same goes for you Norm)

      Best wishes,
      AJ

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Yes. But again what was it I said on this article that can be called drivel. Please tell me which thing I said that was nonsense.

      • Average Joe

        Jeremy Leochner ,

        “Please tell me which thing I said that was nonsense.”

        “1: Obama does have plans to help Americans in general. It takes time to get out of a bad economic situation. Not getting out of a recession fast enough does not mean Obama does not have a plan to.

        2: Obama’s policies are not about dividing Americans. He takes stands, often controversial ones, on divisive issues. Wanting to believe what you believe does not mean your trying to divide people.

        3: Obamas decision on illegal immigrants was partly out of a desire for votes. However it was out of genuine desire to prevent unnecessary deportations. Since 2010 Obama has wanted to implement a policy such as this but was stopped by a bad economy and by congress not passing the dream act. A poll showed that Obama had a nearly 60 point lead among latino’s before the policy was implemented. He did not need to implement this kind of policy to gain their vote.

        4: Obama is not trying to destroy the private sector or free enterprise. Requiring corporations to contribute is not the same as a war on success. ”

        Does that clarifyi t for you?

        While I respect your right to offer your opinions…I reserve the right to call them as I see them…sounds like a fair exchange to me.
        You would stand a better chance of winning us over…if you brought facts to the discussion….rather than opinion.
        No facts…no credibility….AKA “drivel”.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • Jeremy Leochner

        I would grant you that I should bring facts.

        For the sake of argument I would like to point out such things as the Dodd Frank Act which was designed to improve the regulatory mechanism of our country.

        2: In regards to my second point in many ways it really is a matter of opinion. President Obama has taken some controversial stances. Some have said that means he is trying to divide us. What evidence is there that that is his motive. I cant really find a clip in which president obama specifically says I am not doing this to divide America. However I have also not found any footage or audio of him saying I am doing this to divide America.

        3: In regard to the dream act we know he was a supporter because he said he was and republican leadership acknowledges that as well. As to the poll I should have been more specific. I apologize.

        4: In regards to my final comment I think again it is a matter of opinion. I would sit the bailouts and Obamas numerous meetings with corporate executives only to come out and say in the future we will add more regulations as a sign he is asking companies to regulate themselves. Beyond that it really is up to individual people to determine what they think of the president. Facts are facts but motives are a little more murky field.

      • Average Joe

        Jeremy Leochner ,

        “I would grant you that I should bring facts.”

        You just don’t get it, do you? You make that statement and then proceed to offer…more opinion….no facts…inuendo and speculation is not offering facts of any kind.

        “For the sake of argument I would like to point out such things as the Dodd Frank Act which was designed to improve the regulatory mechanism of our country.”

        Simple inuendo. There is nothing in the statement other than naming a bill…no specifics, what was in the bill? who proposed the bill? who voted on the bill and what were their votes…you give absolutely nothing…no links, no… anything. if you wish to debate something…you must bring something to the table…with which to debate. Short and simple…your statement is devoid of substance.

        As for the rest of your post…opinion once again…combined with lack of substance….aka…drivel.

        You live and learn. At any rate, you live.
        Douglas Adams

        Best wishes,
        AJ

      • JeffH

        Average Joe, it’s almost not worth the trouble…correcting liberal opinions, especially opinions of what O’mans accomplishments and intention are. Liberals do tend to be a bit confused as to what is and is not an opinion or fact.

        FYI, keep fighting the good fight…you’ve really been doing a steller job. Thanks for that.

      • Average Joe

        JeffH,
        Thank you for your kind words and encouragement. It ia nice to be noticed and appreciated for my efforts ( you do a pretty bang up job yourself) keep up the good fight…there is still hope for now that we can turn this nation around.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      obummer has NO plan for “Americans in general”. He says “The private sector is doing FINE!”!!!

      • eddie47d

        It’s been stated numerous times that the wealthy have not lost much in the downturn. Banks are flush with cash and CEO pay has gone way up. In those terms the economy is actually doing great. The thing is nothing is trickling downward and you will never convince the unemployed that the economy is doing good. The Elites control the economy and they are not hurting.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Nonsense eddie, there were people that have lost fortunes. I personally know people that have lost up-wards to a mill, and i wouldn’t consider them “the elite”! Just regular folk who worked hard all their lives, saved, only to have it all virtually wiped-out over-night…

        • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

          Jay, I agree with you 1000%. I’ve known several people like that and when they had the money to do just about anything they wanted they would damn near give you the shirt off their backs to help you out, they were just common people who just happen to get lucky.

          GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I hit “post” before I was done. You say obummer is not trying to divide Americans. That’s EXACTLY what he’s doing. When he got on tv and said that trayvon would look like his son if he had one, he was trying to stir up racial feelings. He’s placed members of the muslim brotherhood in his cabinet to stir up racial feelings about muslims. He started the whole “war on women” thing to cause divide between the parties. Because people don’t believe that they should have to pay for someone else’s birth control, they are labeled woman haters. He’s come out in support of gays to cause divide among those who believe that gay sex is a sin. His latest is an executive order that says that our immigration laws should not be enforced. You say it was partly for votes. I say it was entirely for votes and to divide people. Every single job that goes to an ILLEGAL alien is a job that COULD have gone to an American citizen! And in case you haven’t noticed, there are a LOT of citizens who need jobs right now. And in case you’re going to cry that it isn’t fair to the kids who are here through no fault of their own, it’s their PARENTS fault, NOT OURS! Let them blame their parents! I refuse to accept the blame for other people’s ILLEGAL activities!!! Finally, you say that obummer’s not trying to destroy the private sector. He’s not trying to destroy the ones that he’s giving OUR money to. Those guys are fine! But he’s certainly out to destroy small businesses. If he really cared about corporation’s contributions, he would lower the tax rate and do away with the deductions that actually allow big corporations to pay NO taxes at all! Instead he’s going to destroy the little guy whose business makes $200,000. There goes the jobs that havent already gone to China! And talk to the farmers and ranchers who are being put out of business by all of this administrations new regulations. obummer has declared war on the American people! He is destroying our country and everything it stands for!

      • Jeremy Leochner

        1: President Obama meant what he said about Treyvon. What he said was an attempt to show sympathy with the family and to show the country shared the sadness.

        2: Who in his cabinet is a member of the muslim brotherhood.

        3: He did not start any war on women. That was caused by people from both sides of the political isle accusing each other of waging one.

        4: Obama came out in support of gay rights because he supports gay rights. I will again concede that it was partly out of a desire to gain political support. But I believe the principle reason was a genuine desire to extend basic rights to gay people.

        5: The purpose of his new order is to not lump all illegal immigrants into the same boat. There is a difference between people brought here by their parents and people who came themselves. Also the law applies to those with no criminal record. The purpose of the law is so that illegal immigrants who came here illegally because of their parents can still obtain citizenship or at least a visa. His plan is counter to the idea that we should simply deport any and all illegal immigrants. I want people to have jobs. I certainly want people with jobs to be citizens. But I do not want to treat all members of a group the same way based on the actions of some. Not all illegal immigrants have the same motives or commit the same actions in coming here. A person who murders a border patrol agent and commits crimes here is different then one who sneaks across the border at night and puts their kids in school. The act is still illegal but since the act in and of itself does no harm I feel a choice should be offered. Get in line for citizenship or be deported.

        6: Obamas only regulatory measures so far have been to ask corporations and small buisness to regulate themselves. He has tried to close corporate tax loop holes but that has been decried as class warfare. Obama wants to return our countries marginal tax rate to the level it was in the 1990′s. Back when our country had a surplus rather than a deficit.Regulations are rules for the safety of the employees and customers. If someone could give me an example of a regulation that is on the books but is not needed perhaps I would consider supporting it being taken off. For now as far as I can tell regulations are meant to prevent business practices that can lead to defective products being given to the public, unnecessary pollution of the environment and in general making sure employees are kept in safe work environments.

      • Average Joe

        Nancy in Nebraska ,
        Another lost cause….don’t take the bait ( I know, I took it, and I am ashamed of myself).

        • macgyver1948

          Hay Average Joe and Nancy in Nebraska… When Obama said Trayvon would look like his son if he had one he was saying he could be anyone’s son. I believe your hate for Obama is seeing division from Obama. Today Romney further divided himself from the Latinos in our country and tomorrow Obama will bring them closer to him. Many women feel The GOP is dividing them from Government and not Obama. Romney is further dividing those who need jobs from himself because Romney is a Bain kind of guy. Romney is helping to create larger distances between the UN-wealthy and his kind all the time. He knows nothing from where we UN-wealthy are coming from. Say what you want but we see where the widening gaps are coming from.

          It is not Obama who is doing the division but it is easy to see GOP supporters have been convinced to believe what the GOP backers want of them. You can distort Obama’s name all you want but you still can’t reinvent reality as the GOP is trying. Taking truth and facts out of context as the GOP does doesn’t work for those who seek the truth no matter who does it but the GOP does it all the time. Just wait to see how much more division the GOP is creating with their witch hunt on Eric Holder concerning Fast and Furious. You might just see it is attempts on the part of the GOP to hurt Obama where ever they can and stop Eric Holder from protecting voter rights for those who might not vote Republican. Those GOP belong in prison if that proves to be true.

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            I feel the only way to protect Voters Rights is: A VALID PHOTO ID. I have lived in this wonderful State and Country (US of A) all my life, the only time I didn’t, was when I was stationed over seas with the US Military, and I have to show mine EVERY TIME I vote and I am damn proud to do so.

            Oh, don’t say that poor can not get one because they can not afford to buy one. If they own a car; they have a Driver’s Licence. If they don’t they can get a State Identification Card at the same place that issues your Driver’s Licence for a modest fee or if it is shown that they can not afford one they can get it free. People need one to Cash checks, register to vote (if they do), apply for work (if they aren’t too lazy), apply for a loan, or a multiple of other things that you need to show who you are.

            US Combat Vet: Vietnam, ’68-’69, A Co. 228th Avn Bn, 1st Cav Div (AM).

            GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I won’t waste my time responding to all of your “claims” but I will respond to the comment on the muslim brotherhood. arid alikahn was appointed by obummer as assistant secretary for policy development at the department of homeland security. He once referred to hezbollah as a liberation movement. He raised funds for impac, the muslim public affairs council affiliated with the muslim brotherhood. rashaad hussein was appointed to a prominent envoy position in the state department. In 2004 he spoke at the annual conference of the muslim student association, an affiliate of the muslim brotherhood. he defended convicted terrorist, sammy allarian and criticized US terrorism prosecutions. mohamed elibiary was appointed as a member of the homeland security advisory council. he founded the freedom and justice foundation in Plano, TX. freedom and justice is the political party of the muslim brotherhood in Egypt. As a member of the homeland security council, he had access to security documents. In Oct. of 2011 he reportedly took sensitive reports from the Texas Department of Public Safety.
        Here’s my source. But the information is available elsewhere if you care to look for it. I trust these former officials.

        http://web.gbtv.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=20921391&topic_id=23420364

        • macgyver1948

          Well, we very much know hezbollah is a terrorist group just like the PLO was and Hamas is. I wont argue with you about that…

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        macgyver1948, you are delusional. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

      • Average Joe

        macgyver1948 ,

        Over medicate again? Nowhere in any of my posts have I ever suggested a hatred for Obama or anyone else for that matter.
        As a matter of fact, I have been cordial in all of my postings and have pointed out on numerous occassions of my distaste for Romney ( and the similarities between the two men and their policies)….and that my vote is for Ron Paul.

        I am giving you the benefit of the doubt by asking if you’ve over medicated….because certainly you are not silly enough to make such an accusation when all of my posts are clearly visable for everyone to see…right?
        When you take to fabricating an accusations against someone….you should probably make sure you can validate those claims….otherwise your credibility goes right down the tubes…..

        Ok, so maybe you are that silly…..

        He hoped and prayed that there wasn’t an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn’t an afterlife.
        Douglas Adams

        Best wishes,
        AJ

  • Palin16

    Here’s another reason why Romney will beat Obama. Historically and statistically, more Governors have become President than have Senators. This is because governors are charged with making executive decisions, whereas senators are just one voice in 100. In head to head matchups, GW Bush, a governor, beat Gore and Kerrey, both senators. Bill Clinton, a governor, beat Bob Dole, a senator. Ronald Reagan, a governor, beat Walter Mondale, a senator. Jimmy Carter, a governor, beat Gerald Ford, a congressman. Obama was the first senator to win the presidency since JFK, only because he ran against another senator.

    • Norm

      Romneycare was one of Romney’s decisions, but that was when he was pro abortion.

      • Palin16

        I’m not saying that I’m a Romney fan by any means, just pointing out that governors have more executive experience than senators and usually win head to head battles.

  • THG

    I was just thinking , if obama loses, unemployment will go up above 25% . Indeed it will because all of his czars and michelles assistants will be out of jobs .

  • Snowy Smith

    THE JEW USA GOVERNMENT IS THE ENEMY.

    FREEDOM FIGHTERS IT’S TIME TO UNITE.
    The AMERICAN “PEOPLE” have Gone from the most LOVED in the World to the most HATED in the World as a direct result of the WAR MONGERING JEWS.
    MILITARY MEN are DUMB STUPID ANIMALS to be USED for FOREIGN POLICY.
    Quote from JEW Henry Kissinger.
    YOUR OWN USA JEW GOVERNMENT IS THE ENEMY.
    We do NOT want the JEW New World Order.
    We do NOT want the JEW One World Bank.
    We do NOT want the JEW one World Money.
    We do NOT want the JEW One World Government Military Dictatorship.
    We do NOT want GLOBALISM.
    We do NOT want Multiculturalism.
    We do NOT want JEW FEMA Camps.
    We do NOT want JEW “PUPPET” Presidents.
    We do NOT want the RICH men of the World to own all the property.
    We want PRIVATE PROPERTY.
    We do NOT want World Communism.
    We do NOT want EXTREMELY DANGEROUS Nuclear Electricity Power Stations.
    We want all those using or selling DEPLETED URANIUM to be prosecuted for war and Environmental CRIMES.
    There is only ONE group of TERRORISTS in the World today and they are the WAR MONGERING JEWS.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    VERY IMPORTANT VIDEO
    Mancow, Ventura Interview Scrambled by Big Brother!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aybW0AUsGpk

    • macgyver1948

      I have said this before here but most Jews in our country are either mid middle or lower middle class. Could you be more of a bigot and less informed? The hate in you is even so anti Christ.

      • Karolyn

        I have known a great many Jews in my life, growing up in the NY metro area; and all of them have been upper middle class if not upper classs.

        • J.D.

          Karolyn, Im not sure how to put this to you. I have grown up all over the US and I have never met anyone from the NY metro area who was not upper middle to upper class. So by your definition everyone from the NY metro area is upper middle to upper class. If so doesnt that make them all middle class. I know you may feel that everything happens arround NY but we have a lot of country outside of NY and a lot of people who live outside of NY.

    • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

      SS, even your initials are a reminder of a time in our past that is of hate. NAZI GERMANY and the Little Corperal (Snicklgruber, I mean Hitler).

      If you don’t like America, try living in say China, Cuba where what you just said in your post would either get you disappeared or placed in a reeducation camp.

      GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

      • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

        Hi John. Yep, the hate and the evil are still with us. You make a good point concerning their hate of God and humanity, my wording, of all kind which is what the Nazis are about. It would be nice for our enemies, as you suggest, to go live in China, Cuba, North Korea or Iran. There they can openly show their hate for all who they disagree with while living among their own kind, not the people necessarily but the governments. His words and sentiments very much do not belong here in America but I suppose the First Amendment gives him that right to express himself. Iran would be good for these people because Iran (Persia) and Hitler were great friends and allies.

        Yeah, SS as in his initials does suite him. Hate seems to be his badge and we should all know hate is the opposite of God and decency. In his case, and those like him, the opposite of liberty and freedom too.

    • Eric Jones

      Make up your mind either the rich own everything OR its communism cant be both. p.s by-the-way nice enitials ss.

      • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

        Eric… you are short and to the point, I like it. But as For SS, what can you expect from a Godless anti Human POS as this bigot.

        • Eric Jones

          So true sir so true if ive learned anything its that its the bigots who are the REAL sub-specias.

  • chuckb

    guess who managed to get barry elected, guess who misled the people on barrys background, planted fraudulent documents on his behalf, guess who duped a nation full of blacks, and white wanna be’s, guess who guides the msm inprotecting this fraud in the white house? guess who?

    • Steve L.

      70,500,000 plus american’s who knew what was coming when chaney got elected, remembered the republicans came into office on a big financial scandal and left on an evan bigger one, and voted them out!, thats what got President Obama elected. And the republicans have nothing to run on this time. So you vote for rommney and you vote for the 1%, for less regulation of banks and wallstreet, more government walfare for corporations and the wealthy, another war………..

  • Lou

    Rubio is not a natural born citizen. Only Democrats can run illegal aliens and get away with it. Its not going to happen again, too many people now know. Romney is just another natural born loser, like McCain or any of the other turkeys the Republican establishment kept throwing into the primary. Romney generates about as much excitement as a loud fart. He may win because the Kenyan is so bad but he will keep ploding down the same socialist path. Either way were screwed.

    • Steve L.

      Its the mentality of people like yourself that is the reason we’re screwed

  • Rafael

    Listen you all socialists (Democrats), “Nothing is more destructive of peace or prosperity than the Marxist version of government.” Reduce the size of government and it will increase the size of the private sector, which is the only thing the world admires of the US.

  • http://facebook Namvet66/67USMC

    Obama will get real desperate and ask Jessie and Al and Louie and Jeremy to fire up their flocks to vote for him and if they don’t, Obama will sic the Black Panthers on them, to whoop their butts……….

  • JerryWheelerWroteThis..

    Wayne Allyn Root is a pathological idiot.. Landslide my ass hairs! This will be as ‘squeaky’ as 2004 was (let’s just hope it doesn’t end in another cover-up).. The reason it will be (very) close is because of Romney.. Not personally of course but politically. The GOP by giving everyone the impression that Mittens is the best they’ve got has instead shown their continued demeanor (accept who we give your and lump it). The Pubs are depending on the ‘hate’ popularity that a good portion of America feels about Obama.. That’s flimsy at best, in fact they believe it so intently that their willing to allow Willard to play foot in mouth with lesser minorities.. Flipping from one issue to the other according to who’s turf he invaded at a given moment. Fact is, Obama has disappointed a lot of his followers but Romney is not Ronnie Raygun no matter how much he tries to convince us that he’s a ‘good old boy’. Obama’s chances lies in the fact that although he hasn’t satisfied his followers, most of that had to do with McConnell, Boner and their ilk by refusing to pass anything Obama presented unless it favored the Pubs THEN when it was passed, the Pubs exploited the riders that THEY included as his screw-up (after-all, they can always amend the riders once they rule the roost if they choose) the Dems read through this manipulation and realize the Pubs are playing underhanded with both Obama and the American citizen.. Romney on the other hand has the fact that there will be those who no longer back Obama and hopefully they won’t be the one’s staying home on the 6th of November.. Pretty flimsy as I said and both have a chance but not at all a landslide on either side like this toad proclaims..

    • macgyver1948

      As you say “Wayne Allyn Root is an idiot.. You said it more accurately but why are you wasting so much of your energy on that idiot?

  • http://personnallibertyalerts Filbert from Hilbert

    Those caught up in the anti christ. Please be aware scripture says he will come from the church.

  • Rose White

    Rubio is NOT an option. If Obama is not a natural born citizen because one of his parents was not a US citizen, neither is Rubio. We cannot talk with sides of the mouth.
    Romney should go with a minority, but unfortunately not Rubio. Allen West would be a great alternative. They guy displays common sense!

  • Palin16

    Q. How many Democratic presidents are on Mt. Rushmore?
    A. None.

  • chuckb

    isn’t it funny how the bolsheviks keep crying about the republicans not compromising on bolshevik bills, lets look back when the bols had control of both houses, how much did they compromise? lol. good old palousie, she was really non partisan, boy, the good ol’ days.
    the repubs are supposed to lay down for barry and go right along with his communist agenda.

    • macgyver1948

      It was and is The Nazis, a major anti-American and anti-Democracy/liberty group in themselves who called everyone who wasn’t them Communists. Now we see this in tea, an offshoot of another group called The John Birch Society. :-))).

  • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

    As I have said Romney has too much baggage AND IS LOSING GROUND. Marco Rubio is an Amnesty hawk and will do nothing to help Americans by Amnesty for 40 Million Illegal’s. We needed Ron Paul but you idiots out there are getting a small Obamination. With Rubio we will have Amnesty and Americans will remain unemployed and broke in their own Country destroyed by the Congress and Carter, Clinton ,Both Bush’s and Obamination. Romney will be next to screw Americans but you just keep keeping on. I’ll spell it out for you, Romney just slows down the trip to One World Government and more DEBT, the FLIM FLAM MAN IS GOING TO FLIP FLOP ON ALMOST EVERYTHING HE HAS SAID HE WOULD DO. Voting for Romney and expecting a change is the definition of INSANITY.

    • Steve L.

      Ron Paul has some ideas that are not ever gonna fly either. You people think someone can go change corruption and bribery in the govt. and he can’t. You really think he will just walk in and they’ll all just fall in behind him and get things done. Congress will shut him down just like they have Obama, worse…

      • Average Joe

        Steve L. ,
        Sorry Steve…still no coffee for you today.
        You make assertions and then proceed not to back those assertions up with any facts.
        Do you actually have any facts? Apparently not…because so far…in every single post you’ve made…there are no facts included…just you worthless ( yes I said it..WORTHLESS) opinions….hang on to those they will get you far in life…they will help you to win hearts and minds…cuz yer so smart…..
        You know what they say about those pesky opinions…right? Some folks have two of them…stop talking out of yours…..

        Best wishes,
        AJ

    • macgyver1948

      Hi Fellow Vietnam vet. With Romney we get more Bush. Romney as asked many of GW’s advisors/Secretaries of… to join him. If you like the economic legacy GW left us then Romney is the man. For me, since I am not very wealthy or a big corporations, Bush/Romney is not for me.

  • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

    Wow, this Wayne Root guy. I was looking for the strings which control his mouth. He is a very bad comedian at best. Where is this “landslide loss for Barack Obama”? That is just one of the bad jokes.

    One thing I see in common from these comments is more reason we need “Separation Of Church And State” added to the Constitution. Just as we need the Founding Fathers warning for “Separation Of Corporation And State”. Both are needed protections for liberty and Democracy to prosper for all of us equally.

    It was mentioned here, but in more detail now, about The Hebrew Prophet Danial foretelling of the End Of Times concerning the destruction of the big city, referring to the City of Jerusalem. Danial spoke of a greater beast ordering a lessor beast to totally destroy the Great City with fire and sward. Danial also stated that the lesser beast’s name would equal 666 in the Hebrew alphabet. The lesser beast’s name, by the way, was General Titus and he was the son of the Roman Emperor at the time. This is where this story originated and it came true, also as it was mentioned here, in the year 70 AD. IT ALREADY HAPPENED.

    In the New Testament Jesus told of Danial’s Prophecy not realizing it would take place about 3 or so decades later.

    As for Revelations concerning Danial’s Prophecy. First of all, if I remember correctly, it was a dream by an unknown dreamer. Why Revelations doesn’t mention the dreamer’s name I do not know but it doesn’t for some unknown reason. It makes more sense to me that the dreamer, whomever he or she was, was dreaming of events which he or she already know about, either from Torah and Danial’s Prophecy, and/or from history. Maybe the dreamer lived through it but, at any rate, it already happened and it was in no way original in Revelations. I do not see the version in Revelations as being Prophecy but we are all entitles to our opinion especially since we can’t prove anything here.

    My point is, and again since religion was so used here, specifically from the Hebrew Bible. If you are going to take The Hebrew Bible at least do not redefine the Hebrew Scriptures for your own purposes. If you choose to use the Hebrew Bible at least do so as it was originally written and taught for centuries before Jesus was born and still is today, and as Jesus taught it. All Bibles should be able to stand on their own merits and not diminish other bibles to justify anything of your own. To each his own faith or, at the very least, you will further corrupt the US Constitution.

    • Karolyn

      Geez! It’s not “Revelations”; it’s “Revelation”! “Revelations” is a dance piece by Alvin Ailey. If you’re going to play the expert, at least get your vocabulary right!

      • macgyver1948

        Hay Karolyn … Are you one of those GOPers who is more concerned with typos than you are with content and issues? Good for you, the GOP is loving you :-))).

      • Average Joe

        No, Karolyn isn’t… (you’re in the wrong convention hall)

        but…she is correct.

        Best wishes,
        AJ

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I agree with Karolyn on this. If you’re going to come off as an expert get your facts correct! The book of Revelation was not written by an unknown dreamer. It is The Revelation of Jesus Christ written by his disciple, John!

      • macgyver1948

        Nancy…. The book of Revelation was written by several people but the stories in it about Armageddon was dreamed into it and Armageddon already happened by the time your bible was written as per The Hebrew Prophet Danial and as it was told by Jesus. There are just to many coincidences for it to be otherwise.

        Read Danial and then re-read the stories in Armageddon, you will see they are embellished dreams referring to Danial’s prophecies in the Hebrew Bible. And if your eyes are open you will see Danial’s prophecies were proven by the historical events in the year 70AD in Jerusalem. Armageddon in Revelation is not a prophecy, it was history by then. Maybe that is the problem. You too are very much misunderstanding the Hebrew Bible and making non-existent connections with your bible. The Christian Bibles are NOT continuations of the Hebrew Bible and there is nothing in The Hebrew Bible about Jesus or Mary. Justify your stuff with connected and real interpretations.

        • J.D.

          I’m sorry I did not realize that you were so old. 1900 years is a long time but you would have to be this old to know that revelations was written by several people rather than the one person that many scholars believe. By Hebrew Bible as far as I know speaking with several Hebrews or Jews they call it the Talmud. Daniel did prophecy and some of his prophecies have come true but I have not seen many of them. Now abourt Jesus. And a virgin will be with child……and Isa 7:14, 52:13, 53:14 and for Revelations you might consider Isa 62:4 and 65:24-25 Haven’t seen this yet.

          • macgyver1948

            JD…… You say ”By Hebrew Bible as far as I know speaking with several Hebrews or Jews they call it the Talmud.”. Actually I am talking about Torah or what you might know as the Five Books Of Moses. The laws as they were given to us by God through Moses, which includes The Ten Commandants but is not exclusive of it. Torah, since Jesus is so important to you, is what was so important to Jesus, as a rabbi, up to his death. It is mainly Paul, who did not like Torah since before Jesus was killed, it stands to reason Paul would use that death of Jesus’ to further that desire of his, the elimination of Gods Law. The surviving desciples, of Jesus’, were among the maybe all Hebrews in the Holy land who did not like Paul before and after the crucifixion because they, including those thought to be the brothers’ of Jesus, never stopped holding Torah most sacred, as Jesus always did. Paul was most insulting and disrespectful toward Jews so why is so surprising Jews didn’t, and still do not, follow Paul or accept anything from him?

            You say “Daniel did prophecy and some of his prophecies have come true but I have not seen many of them.”. Maybe, I’m just guessing, it is because you either do not read the history or you are told not to so you wouldn’t know it. It might be that history was frowned upon by Christian leaders over the centuries because it might make people wonder why there are such differences. But Daniel’s Prophesy is in the history for the year 70AD.

            Again you say “ Now abourt Jesus. And a virgin will be with child”. Maybe you do not know or maybe you do not want to know but in those days, the concept of “virgin” generally referred to and was spoken of as a female who is not married as of yet but not necessarily one who never had sex before. Translations, as they are from one language to another, often loses something in the meaning. You, as is so often done with the Hebrew Bible, are taking stuff out of context and assuming what you want it to mean.

            Since you brought these up…: and there is no Isa in the Hebrew bible but just in case:

            Isaiah Chapter 7:14. Therefore the Lord Himself shall give you a sign: behold, the young woman shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” All that is saying, in just this line you might be suggesting, is a young women will have a son, not much more than that. I have a feeling, since there were so many assumed and false Massiahs back then many were named “Immanuel.

            Isaiah Chapter 52:13. Behold, My servant shall prosper, he shall be exalted and lifted up, and shall be very high.

            There is nothing in the entire book of Isaiah which even suggests anything about Jesus unless you want to redefine Hebrew scriptures and that is done all the time by Christians

            Isaiah Chapter 53:14. I am not sure what you mean here since Isaiah ends with 13. I appreciate typos though. If you mean something from your bible see the next paragraph.

            It has been a while since I read 2 Christian bibles cover to cover (The Catholic and King James) so I have to admit I do not remember the name Isa if it is in either but I generally remember stories better than I remember names. I do not currently have a Christian bible. We Jews do not accept any Christian bible as scripture or gospel for us, they are simply not our bibles. We do not call or refer to our bible as “The Old Testament”, that is a Christian re-naming of our bible. I do very much respect your right to your beliefs, and your acceptance of your bible, for you and those who choose to believe in the religion of their choosing. I only ask the same in return. I enjoy speaking about different religions but only in academic ways. No one should try to convince the other of anything in the process. I consider proselytizing disrespectful and insulting when the victim doesn’t want to be “converted” especially when he/she loves his/her ways of relating to God.

            Every bible should be able to stand on its own merits and not distort the meanings of other bibles’ scripture to justify anything from their own. Again, your bible is not a continuation of our bible. To each his own faith, which is also a part of Personal Liberty or very much should be.Thanks for your sarcasm‭ ‬ about my age though, LOL. :-).

  • Olga

    I’m very disappointed in Mr. Root. He should be aware that Sen. Rubio is no more eligible to be VP than Obama is Prez. Please see http://www.newswithviews.com/JBWilliams/williams191.htm for an excellent explanation of this.

    • macgyver1948

      How can you be so disappointed in Root? Just look at him as he speaks and listen to him. Alfred E. Newman is so way more authentic and real.

  • Bruce

    This illegal president has to be driven out of this country and debarred from all privelages of a sitting president. IF THIS MAN IS REELECTED he will continue on his path to the final and complete destruction of this country as we know it. No matter whom you may be rich or poor, in a second term he will have complete control of our lives with no fear of reprisal as our Senate has so ineptly proved. Welcome to the socialist states of America. May whom ever you pray to help you and yours.

    • Debb

      How old are you? Do you really think we live in a democracy? Are not and have not for almost a century. Obama didn’t do that. Corporate takeover of this country started back in the 1920′s. I doubt if there is any pure government in the world. All have their positives and negatives. That includes socialism, democracy, communism or any other form of government. Right now I would welcome more ‘communal socialism’ to our ‘democratic’ government, its gotta be better than what we have right now. Can we chip away at our current form of government? Fascism.

      • J.D.

        Debb this is why many of us want less Government not more. More of a corrupt govt is still more corruption. And less govt is still less corruption. Simple math.

  • Chuck

    I think Romney should announce that he will get illegal immigrants off welfare and other government benefits.

    • ROGER D

      Do you really think those people on welfare and disabled people or the unemployed really want to be in those programs with barely enough money to eat or pay bills. I believe if they could get a job where they could make a decent wage with health insurance and a retirement program the line would stretch for miles to fill out a job application except for the disable who probably had to leave a job because of their disability.I was on unemployment one time for about 4 months and collecting about half what I was making while working and it sure was a big help.

  • boyscout

    Simple solution: Let Romney choose Obama for VP and vice versa. We get to ride in a hand basket to hell or go to hell in a hand basket, and call each other names forever ! I can’t root for white bread Root on this one as I don’t believe most Latinos will root for Rubio. And, NO, a vote for some one other than Mike or Ike is NOT a vote for Obama, but a vote for Romney just might be the equivalent.
    Then, of course, a national boycott of the election with not one vote cast, would be an interesting option. Our government officials would have it straightened out by 2112 for sure.

    • Debb

      2112? Hopefully we won’t still be on this ride but interesting point. Well put.

  • chuckb

    the bolsheviks keep tying romney to bush as if that’s a bad thing, i’ll take bush any day compared to the muslim sitting in the white house.
    bush just wasn’t man enough to stand up against the media and the bols. we have to look no farther than clinton, barney frank and chris dodd who were instrumental in destroying the real estate market, then came the recession. the people then elected a person who was not qualified to hold the office. he is operated by a teleprompter.
    he now is in the process of losing the white house, thank god,

  • Debb

    This man wasn’t a citizen. His parents weren’t naturalized until 1976. Isn’t this the same argument from ‘birthers’ about Obama? Rubios’ viewpoints? Hardly maverick. More martial law?

    • Will_in_Indiana

      Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are “natural born citizens” and eligible to be President or Vice President.

  • OldbutnotadumbI will be studing the Constitass 2012

    I Think your Perdictions are off the wall!!!!Mitt is still Mitt.A spainish American as V.P.Doesn’t impress me a dam bit!!!!I don’t know what he stands for,but he is going to prove to me he has what it takes to be V.P.,or he won’t be getting my vote.I would think getting the best man he can find,that would be able to do the job,would be more important than trying to play upon a race-card!!!Mitt is a dip.And obomba is about ten steps below him.There is really no one out there to vote for except Ron Paul(and doesn’t look to good for him.)

  • Bert Cundle Sr.

    Why is the fofillment of Prophecy so valueable? You People Don’t get your heads out of the Bible, you are going to miss Life you have Now! The Bible has destroyed many people!

  • Marc

    Why would you vote for Romney, you better check his voting record, he does whatever the money tells him to. Just like Obamination, he does not serve ‘we the people’. Look deeper, get educated on who he is…the media can’t be trusted and either can Romney.

    • J.D.

      My friend I am in perfect agreement with you but you leave me the choice of returning Obama to office and that is suicide.

      • Steve L.

        Don’t be so dramatic. The american congress is a way worse threat to the country than Prs. Obama

        • J.D.

          Wasnt trying to be dramatic but at my age and with the lose of body parts due to 20 years of service to my country and the bullets that I stopped with the current administrations use of executive privilage and support of the health care bill it wasnt dramatic. they will just deny me medical coverage. Read the bill. See what it says. and congress could not have gotten that bill passed without the support of the pres since they were barely able to squeek it by in the dead of the night as it was. And yes I am very upset with congress. Not one of the members that I had a vote one made it back in office. Only one more to go. He’s up for re-election this year. Then at least my state will have cleared house. And I have never seen congressmen or senators act towards service members and/or their families with the total distain of our current pres.

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            Thanks for you service, Bro. I too am a Combat Vet with a Disability (20%)due to my time on Active Duty. Vietnam: ’68-’69, Doorgunner, A Co. 228th Avn Bn, 1st Cav Div (AM) and then again during Desert Storm. Then in ’92 I hung up my spurs: Retired and credited with 38 yrs of sevice.

            During that time I have seen that every time we’ve had a Socialist (I mean a Democat) in control of the purse strings the Veteran and the Military are given the green w—- (shaft) and when a Republican takes over the Veteran is treated fairly and most of all the Military starts to get the funds that they need to defend us.

            WE NEED TO GET RID OF THIS INCOMPETE FOOL WHO RESIDES IN OUR HOUSE. OH, WE ALSO HAVE TO TAKE BACK THE SENATE AND INCREASE OUR MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE.

            “””FIRE OBAMA, REID, PALOSI AND ALL THE BIG SPENDERS IN WASHINGTON!”””

  • eddie47d

    PLD has effectively censored my comments, deleted them and banned me from commenting. Comments posted yesterday are gone as of this posting.

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear eddie47d,

      You write:”PLD has effectively censored my comments, deleted them and banned me from commenting.” You are aware of why your comments are moderated. I have told you on multiple occasions what you need to do to be removed from moderation. Thus far, you have not complied. In fact, you have behaved as a petulant child. Appropriate comments that you post will be released on the moderator’s schedule. If you are unhappy with that, you have two choices, as I told you a couple of days ago: 1) Stop posting; 2) Abide by the rules for a sufficient period of time.

      You write: “Comments posted yesterday are gone as of this posting.” I see every comment you post and the moderator is operating per my instructions. Your continuous whining about being “censored” annoys me greatly. If it continues, your posting privileges will be revoked completely.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Palin16

        Yay, Bob!

  • http://www.facebook.com/varian.wrynn Varian Wrynn

    WAR – I refer you to the US Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Paragraph 5. Marco Rubio (I love the guy), is ineligible to serve as VP as he was born 3 years BEFORE his parents became citizens. He is as ineligible to be president as The One we have now. So unless the Republicans get a tit-for-tat Constitutionally-ineligible candidate, this whole discussion is moot, and if they do, this proves both parties are just two sides of the same Constitution destroying coin.

    • J.D.

      Wrynn I dont know the answer to this so it is a real question. Where, in what location, geographic position, was Mr Rubio born. I thought is was somewhere in the continental U.S. Was I wrong? Since as everyone knows. No matter what nationality of the the parents,. If the child is born in the geographic confines of U.S. territory the child is a naturalized citizen. This is why many illegal aliens sneak across the border to have children.

  • Karen K.

    Have you noticed Democrats ends in RATS and Republican ends in I CAN. Y’all are talking about who is the anti-Christ. Well y’all need to read the book of Revelation. It is a man and the number 666 represents him. He will lay low for a while and he will be able to perform miracles as he tries to draw people away from Christ. Read it and you will see. And as for the one who mentioned about dreading the doom and gloom, if you were a true Christian, you wouldn’t dread it because you would know that the true Christians won’t be here when all this takes place.

  • J.D.

    Number one that he has done to me personally, Approved the health care bill. You may like it but I consider it theft.
    Number two: Look at how he has acted when he has been at military bases visiting the troops. No respect for the men and women who have served. They make great servants. IE Medal of Honor award, where did he seat the receipients family. Third row wasn’t it.
    Number three: As the president visiting a foreign leader he represents me. Bowing to a foreign king, just remember he didnt bow to the foreign queen, maybe its a chauvinist thing.
    Number four: 800 billion dollar bail out of Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac etc. I stll dont see the jobs. For 450 billion I could have done a great deal more. 150,000 dollars for every American adds up to 450 Billion. Homes paid off, new cars purchased, credit cards paid. economy stimulated. nuff said.
    this is just four want me to keep going because it would not really be that difficult.

    • Steve L.

      Tell it to congress, if you are upset at Obama you should be outraged at congress.

  • newspooner

    Communism by any other name is still communism.

  • Eric Jones

    Mr Root Obamas re- election campiagn will be paid for by people who got WELTHEY in the PRIVATE SECTER therfore your notionthat he wants to destroy capitilism is frankley laughible hahha. the truth is that the divisen between the rich and poor is because they as seperate classes they have varying and irreconsiliable diffrences. you see sir it is capitilism that divides the working class into seperate groups i.e races and it is the inherit flaws BUILT INTO the system that has caused this downturn and all others throughout its exestence. however obama is guilty of allowing these travistes to continue.

    • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

      Sir, I can see several differences between the Rich and Poor is that one (Some of them) worked his/her a– off to get where he/she is today while the other one (Some of them) was too lazy to get up off his/her fat a– and find a job or maybe figure out how to to something better whereas he/she can get rich.

      Also, one doesn’t stand there with his/her hand out waiting for the Government to give them something for nothing while the other one says to the Government “Get the hell out of my way, I don’t need no hand-out I’m doing just fine. Oh, and stop trying to take what is mine and give it to that lazy a–h—, if I want to help them out; I’ll do it my way.”

      You can problily think of more differences but you get the drift. ‘EVERYBODY IS EQUAL IN THE EYES OF THE LORD!’

      GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

      • Eric Jones

        Ah yes the age ol argument that the reason for the huge welth eniquility is because the working class as a whole is lazy i was wondering when one of you right-wingers was gonna try that. quick queston Mr Wilch what color is the sky in YOUR world? because in the REAL world the differance betweenn the two is that the vast majority of people i.e workers are to kind hearted to EXPLOIT others the capitilist class however sees the workers as a means to an end instead of the PEOPLE they are.

        • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

          EJ, I am one of those working class people that though not rich would rather live here in the United States of America the land of the free. Brought to you curtious of the Veteran not some Senator or Congressman. I’ll go to my grave defending your rights to say and think the way you do. I took an oath December 20,1963 to defend those rights and that oath was not for just my initial enlistment it was for the rest of my life.

          • Eric Jones

            I cant count the number of members of my family who served in the miliatarey so so congradulations on having a spine unlike 99.99 percent of todays polaticions but if you honestly think that this country is still free then i hate to say this but you fought for NOTHING,

        • J.D.

          Sadly you will both stick to your guns and complete the class warefare the Obama’s of this world desire. There is merit to what you both say. There are many lazy people out there and there are capitalist ( or what ever designation you give them) who are just looking to take advantage of hard working people. But this is one of the few systems that does have someone go from poor hard working to rich. Bill Gates, as an example how about that Apple founder, Google founder, just to pick a few that are well know,

          • macgyver1948

            JD… For me I am not opposed to wealth no matter how large. If you can earn it you deserve it. What I am opposed to is greed and trying to keep it, through payroll or whatever, to as much to yourself as possible.I am not against those very wealthy who earned it honorably and use what they earn in the same light. I am for fair and livable wages. Eliminating minimum wage, as so many Tea wants for corporations, and to eliminate so many environmental protections and regulation, also wanted by tea and fought for by the GOP, is so hurtful to all who aren’t very wealthy and not a big corporation. It is greed that sucks when it crushes everyone else as many large Corporations are doing with GOP help.

            Please do not tell me “So you think the Dems are not that way” because I think the Dems are only less so than the GOP. The dems are working more toward helping the UN-wealthy that the GOP is but they both are responding, to their own degrees, to the big campaign contributors. How do we win when there is so much greed against us? I’d love to have Bill Gates kind of money but I wouldn’t be a republican or Tea.

          • JD

            Guess you have access to things I dont since I have never read or received anything from tea or GOP saying get rid of min wage so that is new to me. However I have seen continual increase in govt control, regulation and size by every Dem I have ever seen in power or position of power. What most Tea partiers I have spoken to and seen want is less Government less taxes to pay for government that is proven to be nothing but a sink hole for more graft like 120 million to dead govt employees, 113,000 for video game preservation, 600,00 to study online dating, 490,000 to see if you trust your twitter feed or on and on. Less govt in my life. I will raise my children. When the govt was not part of that we had less problems in our schools, and streets. Fewer 17 year olds were breaking into 80 year old homes and killing the husband and raping the wife (80+ years old) that is what I want the govt out of my life. I dont need 90% of the regulations they have been forcing down my throat. I agree some environmental regulations are good but then they get carried away and impose so many that all the manufacturing goes to china where they dont care. Still gets done just takes the jobs away from americans. The environment is not protected cause they still do it just somewhere else. These are what the constant regulation are doing. Nothing is getting fixed just moved out of America and we lose jobs. So I guess a poor, Tea and GOPers just have to pay for others to feel better about it.

          • macgyver1948

            JD… I am not sure where you get your sentiment from and pertaining to “Fewer 17 year olds were breaking into 80 year old homes and killing the husband and raping the wife (80+ years old) that is what I want the govt out of my life.” First of all, who the hell would want that? What American history events are you referring to when there have been fewer riots and street fightings and home invasions here for the last couple of hundred years? What do you mean by “fewer”? Maybe when the population was smaller there were “fewer” but percentage wise I bet it was at least as violent here for so long.

            I see many people on the right, wealthy or otherwise, say they want smaller government and much less intrusion until it comes to them imposing their personal and religious beliefs on the rest of us. I would very much defend their right to be whatever kind of Christian they choose to be but if they try forcing their religious beliefs on me we have a huge problem. They would very much be corrupting liberty and freedom in the attempt.

            I have no doubt very many Tea Party rank and file members, average citizens, want smaller government and less government intrusions in their lives. I and so many so-called liberals, our rank and file, want less government invading our lives too. I just think we should be intelligent and compassionate about how we go about making Government smaller. Do we really want to trade ‘Big Government’ for ‘Big Corporate Government’ with less liberty for the rest of us? That I believe is what this election will come down to.

            For so many years I wanted the spending for what I call “funny money wasting“ programs to stop. They weren’t very funny but they are very wasteful.

            My main concern is not with GOP or Tea Party rank and file, it is with the big money supporting the groups those at the top. They are the ones who we should be aware of, all of us who aren’t in their very wealthy and wealthy mind-set class. “There is no evil like the evil that hides behind the cloak of respectability”. Ever hear that? Well be afraid of what you do not “really” know.

            There are many huge money people who support and have created groups like the Tea Party but I will stay with one well known pair of brothers and their family heritage for this. They and their dad, and even going back further, are very scary if you understand and have researched them. The Koch Brothers might no longer want to be in politics but they very much want to own it. We all must know the prower and the intentions behind the group we choose to be part of.

            Begin with the below links and then research your own. Maybe the Tea Party people you spoke with do not really know the true agendas of their TP, maybe.

            Tea Party Funding Koch Brothers Emerge From Anonymity
            http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/Peter-Fenn/2011/02/02/tea-party-funding-koch-brothers-emerge-from-anonymity

            Try this one.
            http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer

            The billionaire Koch brothers: Tea Party puppetmasters?
            http://theweek.com/article/index/206405/the-billionaire-koch-brothers-tea-party-puppetmasters

            Koch Brothers ties to Nazi’s
            http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/koch-brothers-ties-to-nazis/question-2585231/

            John Birch Society Celebrates Koch Family For Their Role In Founding The Hate Group
            http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/10/242334/john-birch-society-celebrates-koch/

            Try this where there are many more articles but do your own research as well:
            http://search.babylon.com/?q=Koch+Brothers+family+and+The+John+Birch+Society&babsrc=HP_ss&s=web&rlz=0&as=0&ac=39

            Enough for now, find more for your self. I do want to include this:

            “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!” Samuel Adams

            I bet Koch, and many corporate execs, would hate Samuel Adams, and vice versa.
            And this:
            “They that would give up essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Ben Franklin
            “So do not tread on my right to not be Christian for I have that right. Do not impose your religious beliefs on me or you will force the fight“ An American

          • Eric Jones

            J.D. youre right i belive in class struggle i belive revolution is a necacity and a right for the working class. i dont hide it because i have nothing to hide unfortunitly for me and my comrades obama wants class struggle about as much as you do. in closing you admitted what we say has merit the least i can do is return the faver capitilism can indeed enrich a country even a socialist like me cant deny it. what we are opposed to is the PROVEN FACT that instead of benifetting the the working majority it benifets a parasitical minority THAT my friend is our problem THAT is why we do what we do.

          • JD

            I thank you but I have seen Socialism in action and those wonderful masses begging to come to my capitalist country. I do mean begging literally. Been there seen that. Why if capitalism is so bad do so many want to come here

          • Steve L.

            they come for american idol and the kardashians

          • Eric Jones

            Youve seen socialism? i highley doubt it but i will give you the benifet of the doubt. so tell me which country? and to answer your queston the reason that so many immagrents come hear is that the corprete media promotes this country as the “land of milk and honey” they forget to mention the capitilist goverment stripping away its own peoples rights,the violent hate groups in every state or the fact that ther only be making half as much as a local worker. thats the reason DECEPTION

    • Steve L.

      But none of you who blame Obama have any ideas to fix the problem.What is he supposed to do to get congress to act instead of intentionally holding down the economy to make him a one term president Its CONGRESS’S fault so stop voting for those who support and are paid for by the 1%

      • Eric Jones

        Steve L. i give you credit fo bringing up a valid queston. what can obama do about congress? but i have one for you. if he can bomb libya without even CONSULTING congress does he really NEED ther help with the econamy? seems to me if he can decide to commite an act of WAR by himself he can fix the econamy by himself but thats just me.

      • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

        SL, you say that the Republicans are stopping O from doing anything, will, Sir, he had both houses under his control for the first three years of his term and all lhe did was ram an autrosity of a Health bill down our throats. Even they didn’t know what was in the bill, this was according to Princess Palosi “We have to pass it before we know what in it.” Oh, also if you care to do your research you will find that a majority of the American people don’t want it. This Country is not a country slaves but a country of the free.

        That FREEDOM was bought through the Blood, Sweat, and Tears of the Veteran and Sir, I am one of those Veterans. A Veteran who will go to his grave defending you right to say the thing that you say. I took that oath December 20, 1963. US Combat Vet: Vietnam, ’68-’69, Doorgunner with A Co., 228th Avn Bn, 1st Cav Div (AM) and then again in ’91 in Desert Storm with the USAF.

        Now this President wants to take from those who have gotten up off their a–es and went to work and give it to those who are to lazy to get of the a–es and get a job.

        GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

        • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

          John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret…. Let’s do one example but there are so many…. Recently Obama brought out the Dream Act and so many GOPers are complaining that he brings it up now because it is political prudent with the election so close and for no other reason. :-))).

          A couple of years ago when the Dems had the Congress there was the passage of the Dream Act. Obama was happy and so was Pelosi, we should have been too. The Senate passed it something like 55 to 45 and the House passed it also. Then came the Republican filibuster and The Dream died. Obama sees how important it is for something to get done, in spite of all the road blocks from the other side of the aisle so he acted now. I hope he does more of this since the GOP will black any and all Obamaism.

          By the way, there are things in Obamacare Obama didn’t want in it because they were wrong for us. Something like the “if you do not buy health insurance we will fine you monthly through the IRS until you get it” – even if you can;t afford it. Guess where that compromise comes from just for Obama to get needed health care for us. There are also other nasty things in ObamaCare which comes from Romneycare when he was Governor.

          As you just said from your post “ all lhe did was ram an autrosity of a Health bill down our throats” referring to Obamacare. Maybe if you get the GOP out of your head and do your own real research you might just see where the lead brick wall is really crushing us from. But I suppose it is easier for the GOP to do your thinking and believing for you.

          There are many more examples of what Obama accomplished for us and more of the road blocks from the GOP, the many they do no want you to know about, but this is plenty for here and now…

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            Yeah, like running up the National Debt higher in 3.5 years than GW did in three years and more than any other President did in 200 years.

            Wheres the money he gave to Solendra?

          • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

            John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret . You are right, Obama did spend a lot and government spending has to come down. But just so we do not become the most UN-compassionate country in the world we have to choose wisely what government programs should be tweaked or even cut all together. And in not doing that, the most UN-compassionate thing, we cannot listen to corporations on how they want their paid for politicians to do it. We cannot listen to the Tea Party and in no way the Koch’s of the country. The GOP mostly, but also Democrats, must look at ways to cut spending so we will not just benefit corporation and hurt many people at the same time.

            As for “ Wheres the money he gave to Solendra?”. Stop being so much an air head and ask the people who can answer the question. How would any who aren’t Solendra and his accountant know? Stop thinking like tea.

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            I meant to say that BHO has spent more in three years than GHWB did in his eight years in office.

          • Steve L.

            Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true.

            But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.

            Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed to increase spending more than Obama has.

            From Maket Watch

          • Anthony Noel

            Thank you for giving the facts. We are all entitled to our opionion but not entitled to the facts.

          • JD

            WOW Steve I missed the 800 billion given away to major corporations so they could charge me more interest on money that the govt (my money) gave them. This was not money to run the govt this was give away money for bonuses etc, You are buying into the story about it growing the slowest ever. Do you also believe that only 8 percent of americans are out of jobs? Sheeole believe like that. Wolves are tired of the bull being spouted out about how we are OK things are working out. Dont believe the paid for pundits that are hired for their ability to make something look like it is not. Look for people outside the beltway. Look how many businesses are running from this country to other countries. Even old established companies have established themselves overseas

          • http://www.facebook.com/steve.lohrstorfer Steve Lohrstorfer

            IS THAT THE $800 BILL BUSH GAVE AWAY WITH NO ACCOUNTABILITY OR SAY IN HOW ITS SPENT JUST BEFORE HE LEFT OFFICE ?. HOW ABOUT LETTING THE REQUIRMENT THAT CLINTON WAS UNDER THAT YOU CAN’T CREATE ANOTHER GOVERNMENT PROGRAM WITHOUT A WAY TO PAY FOR IT AND THEN PASSING A 67 BILLION PRESCRIPTION DRUG BILL WITH NO WAY TO PAY FOR IT, AND FORBIDDEN TO NEGOTIATE DRUG PRICES (WHY WOULD ANYBODY AGREE TO THAT THAT?) BEFORE THE ELECTION TO GET THE ELDERLY VOTE. HOW ABOUT IS ADMIN. ALMOST REFUSAL TO REGULATE OR PROSECUTE FINANCIAL CRIMES LIKE BRENIE MADDOFF WHO WAS GIVEN TO THEM ON “A SILVER PLATTER”. BUSH STARTED OUT WITH THE ENRON SCANDAL AND ENDED WITH THE COLLAPSE OF THE WORLD ECONOMY…

        • Steve L.

          Thanks for your service but the things you say are extreme and wrong. To say its all about people siting on their butts is just silly,there are millions of hard working americans who want to work and can’t. Stop lumping them into a group and calling them lazy,your part of the problem.

  • terris

    If you feel that Obama is ineligble to be President because of his parents citizenship (only 1 parent a US citizen), then Rubio is even more ineligible because nneither of his parents.

    They were both born in the US. BTW, that 5-year residency requirement is only for people born outside thw US, not for those born in the US.

  • Robert Rashbrooke

    Reply to Nancy

    Your idea as to what constitures Liberal thinking is just that – your idea. It bears very little semblence to MY idea, which (I agree is subjective) is to accept the dictionary definition, i.e. tolerant of other peoples ideas, believer in small government when applied in political terms, wide rangeing. I personally don’t think it means government should provide a very tolerable income for people who do not work for their own income, whatever the reason that caused that situation. Providing handouts to people who do ACTUALLY work but limit their hours in order to qualify for a handout, to me is WRONG.

    Reply to TSgt Wilch

    You may have served in the military for whatever reason (I did too for 14 years) but you need to accept that military thinking is not always conducive to good diplomacy and that if we place restrictions on what other countries can do TO us, then we need to apply those same restrictions to ourselves in our relationship to other countries. (See the Nuremburg Trials for precedent). I wonder how you would explain our invasion of Grenada and Panama, as opposed to the then government’s explanations that Grenada was to protect students schooling there, and that Noriega was importing drugs into this country (on CIA aircraft, if I remember correctly). War has seldom achieved what it intended and often results in more negative effects than positive ones and should only be pursued as a last resort. If we WEREN”T meddling in other countries’ affairs then they would probably not be so interested in changing our ways.

    And to everyone who posts on here, Google Howard Freeman and read his letters/articles on the application of Law in this country and see if you are not as amazed as I was.

    • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

      Robert… you are so right in many ways, including in what you said “what constitures Liberal thinking is just that – your idea.”, :-))… It is so funny how different liberal thinking is between liberals and conservatives. Isn’t it nice how some can read other peoples minds and tell those others what they think? I don’t know any liberals who do that.

      War is generally a wealthy group’s way of obtaining more wealth and power/control. History has so often shown that. You left out our immoral invasion of Iraq in your statement. Did you do that intentionally? It was clearly a Bush war for some of his buddies and it cost us $trillions in money and even more importantly, in so many lives. I like your reference to Nuremberg Trials after WW2. There is so much interesting and great results that came out of those trials. I wonder why so much of that great stuff many haven’t learned from to this day. My guess is for those who choose to ignore history that so often happens.

      Providing hand outs would be wrong if the sole intention of the receiptiants was to receive them and not work for a living or for what they are receiving. I bet there are some who do just that but from what I see many who receive from the government are worthy and justifiable receivers. Social Security receiptiants, for example, are not receivers of Welfare, charity, handouts or anything other then the delayed receiving of primarily their own earned money.

      There are many who want to support the GOP in eliminating Social Security, there-by putting the moral and legitimate receivers of it living on the streets or not being able to afford enough decent food or not even their meds, etc. The many who support the GOP on this show they are without out compassion but instead are supporting the extreme greed of the big corporations, which is the primary purpose of the GOP. And there are many deserving people on Medicare who would go without medical care if the GOP does its thing for the big corporations in that area as well.

      What I am saying is there are many who receive Government help who deserve it. There are many unemployed people who are NOT unemployed by their own choosing, as the GOP tells us. With all the help Bush gave the corporations as incentives to create jobs why has the unemployment rates gone up so much because of Bush’s help? Why are the incentives being used as savings by the corporations instead? Just shows why Trickle Down does not work for any who aren’t wealthy.

      Robert… I know you ware speaking more to how military run it/themselves but I just felt this being a major kind of election year more needs to be pointed out. If we are so much better and different as a country than other countries, compassionately speaking, why is there so much compassion lacking for us non-wealthy by the GOP in almost all areas? It will only get worse as the gap between the wealthy, the so called elite, (except for the not so greedy wealthy) and us becomes.

      • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

        macgyver1948, your statement concerning the unemployed was due to Bush and his policies; well, Sir, I humbily disagree and here is some proof.

        1) the jobs have be sent off shore because the corperations get a tax break (Carter (D), Clinton (D));
        2) More stringent regulations (Obuma (D), Clinton (D));
        3) Higher debt (more that any other President): Obama (D).

        The way that I look at it the incompetete idiot has caused more damage to the working class in just 3.5 years than G.W. Bush ever did. Atleast his policies kept our enemies at bay after they hit us on 9-11. With BHO there has already been atleast two that we known of and that was just during this term.

        Proud American and a Retired E-6.
        US Combat Vet: Vietnam – ’68-’69: Doorgunner with A Co. 228th Avn Bn, 1st Cavalry
        Division (AM); Desert Storm: ’91.

        GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

        • macgyver1948

          John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)… Wow your figures differ from the major news and government sources but that is ok. See below for a little ab not that but that does not include GWs excessive war spending which we are very much feeling today still. There are so many other examples and articles which would not agree wit you. But as for what I wrote and you are resounding to. I guess you do not read very well, or comprehend. I asked were are the jobs from the bush incentives even this date?

          Obama’s job programs, even with the GOP hindered efforts, has helped and if you do not want to realize that – answer this. Why is Romney now asking up to 6 Republican Governors to stop talking about their states shrinking unemployment rates for the last couple of years and they have nothing to do with bush?

          Tax breaks for the corporations and the wealthy, from either side, has to stop. Incentives, from tax breaks or so-called Trickle Down, are really savings for the Big Corporations and that is why giving the very wealthy tax breaks does not work. Trickle Down in any form will not work unless the wealthy use them as job creations tools and they do not.
          888

          Domestic Spending by Presidential Term
          Over the last 100 years, of the five presidents who reigned over the largest domestic spending growth, four were Republicans. The line-up, in order, is Nixon, Hoover, Eisenhower, Truman, and Bush (see table). We obtained this ranking by measuring the change in domestic spending as a percentage of gross domestic product (GDP) between the fiscal year of a president’s inauguration and the fiscal year of his successor’s inauguration. For example, the measure for President Bush is the change in domestic spending as a percentage of GDP between fiscal years 1989 and 1993.
          Start with this and do your own research (stop listening to only what the GOP wants you to believe – think for yourself) – http://www.urban.org/publications/307052.html#tab1

          By the way, Reagan is still known as a heavy TAX AND SPEND Prez. Was he a Democrat while being President?

      • Eric Jones

        Nuice to see im not the only one who understands the problem ive got a site you might like to check out http://www.pslweb.org.

  • jopa

    Apparently Mr. Root doesn’t listen to what Bob Livingston has been saying for months.Marco Rubio does not qualify for the VP slot due to the fact he is not a citizen.

  • Oldbutnotadumbbutt2012

    to be president,you must be natural born,35years old(or Older)and be resident(in The USA)for 14years!!!!Any thing less Is un constitutional !!!!!Any 8th grader are to know that!!!!!If Marco Rubio can’t prove this,he shouldn’t be allowed to run with “Mitt”,the dip!!!!because if some thing happens to”Mitt” in office,Marco would be not be allowed to become President!!!O”bomb”a got away with this,Once is enough!!!!The reason I didn’t vote for him,was because of this very fact.How dumb can people get in this country?Have they no respect for our Constitution?Anyone serving more than two terms (that should enclude Congress as well as the President),Should be votted out!!!!!.Also they should outlaw so called “Super-Packs”as well!!

  • macgyver1948

    I would like to give an example of how I feel about Tea and the GOP. I hope Wayne Allyn Root is reading.

    “This week, Joe Walsh called President Obama “a tyrant,” repeated his offensive comments about African Americans being dependent on government, said Mitt Romney’s extreme wealth is a reason to vote for him, and suggested Medicare be taken away from middle-class seniors who paid into the program, limiting it just to the “truly needy.” And that was just one town hall.

    Voters need to know just how extreme Walsh is.” .
    —–
    The above was something from the news this week. Man, Walsh’s mind is so drenched in tea. If we can not see the evil in tea thinking for Democracy we have to be in a coma. To believe what Walsh and his kind says about African Americans, in his/their great generalizations, is an insult to all African Americans. And the rest of us too.

    And to give as a reason to vote for the Tea (Koch) property Romney (“Mitt Romney’s extreme wealth is a reason to vote for him) because he is wealthy is VERY nutz. How can fair mined intelligent people listen to any TP/GOP who speaks so obviously against all those who aren’t very wealthy or a big corporation?

    TEA’s desire, “Medicare be taken away from middle-class seniors who paid into the program” (and we should include Social Security receiptiants since all of them paid into that program while they were working, taken from their paychecks) clearly shows tea’s ‘desire’ to see the dependent elderly die off soon so they, tea and alike, will not have to be bothered with them. Wake up Tea lovers. Hitler, in the Nazis ‘desire’ to eliminate all ‘non-productive’ people (crippled/handicapped, the poor and unemployed and old) wanted the same thing so please see the similarities. IF you remember from several other news articles in recent years the KKK and Noe-Nazi groups want to join in with The Tea Party because they have so many similar agendas.

    • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

      Sir, whene did you get your ideas that the Tea (Taxed Enought Already) Party is a bunch of bigots and racist. I do believe those so-called fact derived from the speaking points of the DNC. I have attended the Tea Party Rallies alone side of people of all races (African American, Native American, Chinese, Japanese, Hispanic, and religions and have not heard any speaches that call for doing away any non-productive citizens except for the DNC trying to scare people into believing that the Republicans are out to kill everybody that does believe the way they do.

      As far as I’m concerned the Socialist (I mean Democrats) are out to destroy the Constitution, which I spent most of my live defending, and our freedoms so that they can stay in power. Granted there are some Republicans (RINOs) that want to do the same thing. However, those are the few and far between.

      We need to defeat O and his cronies this November inorder to save this Great Nation.

      GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

      • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

        John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)… You are too easy. If you were any more brainwashed it wouldn’t make a difference. I’m talking about the creators and backers of Tea, not those fooled by them. I bet there are many Tea followers, many of whom are decent people, who do not know who they are following and how scary they are.

      • Steve L.

        Your a bitter confused military hack that is so blind to how much the republicans are responsible for the greatest fraud ever put over on the american people. To make your bogus declaration of alligence to this country and then attack our president with total b.s. republican talking points makes you a fraud and a disgrace. Everything you spwe out is You. And the enemies of the united states thank you for helping them tear down our govt. and the country. You only support democracy if your guy wins and your party is more important than your country

        • JD

          Steve you make your point of being blind to how the democratic party has pulled the curtains over your eyes by your very point. Define the fraud that the Republican have pulled over dont just use generic greatest fraud ever. What is your greatest fraud. That Obama has given away more of my countries money in 3 years than any 10 presidents before him put together. Slight exageration but not much. So, see I can use big accusations with no substance too. And what have you done to fight the enemies of the United States? I at least have an idea of what the Tsgt has done. Our country was founded with the idea of talking about our differences. You only support democracy if your guy wins and your party is more important than your country. Show me that this is not true of you. Where was your support?

      • macgyver1948

        Hi John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.) … Actually TEA stands for “”Terrorize Every American” – unless you join us””. I really hope you never find out and that means all TEA at the top, like Koch and his kind, are gone totally from American politics. Their huge money influence with the GOP is hurting us badly.

        Now, you comment to Steve Lohrstorfer where you claim pretty much it was (primarily) the Dems who screwed you over as a Veteran and a soldier … Just your opinion? Well, from at least being in the military, as I have also, you should know what is said about opinions and what else is had by everyone. You want to say “by the Socialist (Oops, Democratic) Party then by the Republican Party”. Go for it but the Republicans are right there with them but so much more so if you follow the history. Oh wait, the GOP doesn’t want you to unless it is the history they say. You blame the “Socialist (Oops, Democratic) Party” for all your wows but do you have even an inkling of an idea? Obama hasn’t had enough time to screw you over as much as you claim but —
        Prove these “opinions” wrong.
        http://www.cafemom.com/journals/read/1359925/What_George_Bush_has_done_for_soldiers_and_veterans
        For all of the military member’s and their spouse out there. We need to stop listening to party members that claim to be the party of the military. Look at what this administration has really done to you! Below are only a few examples of veterans benefits and pay cuts.

        Bush Administration underfunded veterans’ health care by $2 billion. The Bush Administration’s 2004 budget underfunded veterans’ health care by nearly $2 billion. (“Vets Health Low on Bush’s Priority List,” The Hill, September 17, 2003; “Support for Troops Questioned,” Washington Post, June 17, 2003; U.S. Department of Veterans’ Affairs, September 2002)

        Bush Administration budget cuts force more than 200,000 veterans to wait for health care. Over 200,000 United States veterans have to wait more than six months for a medical visit because of health care shortages. (“VA Health Care Funding Alert,” Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States Press Release, January 31, 2003)

        Bush Administration cuts $1.5 billion from military family housing. The Bush Administration cut $1.5 billion for military family housing, despite Department of Defense statistics showing that in 83,000 barracks and 128,860 family housing units across the country are below standard. (“Nothing But Lip Service,” Army Times, June 30, 2003; “House Appropriations Committee Approves $59.2 Million for Ft. Hood,” U.S. Rep. Chet Edwards Press Release, June 17, 2003)

        Bush Republicans support millionaires instead of military veterans. Bush allies in Congress stopped efforts to scale back the tax cut for the nation’s millionaires by just five percent – a loss of just $4,780 for the year – in order to restore this funding for military family housing. (“The Tax Debate Nobody Hears About,” Washington Post, June 17, 2003)

        For all of the military member’s and staff out there. Let’s not continue to listen to political roderic from party members that claim they are the party of the military. Read the facts and see what they have done for you lately.

        Bush Administration proposal would end health care benefits for 173,000 veterans. More than 173,000 veterans across the country would be cut off from health care because of Bush Administration proposed budget cuts and its plan requiring enrollment fees and higher out-of-pocket costs. (“Support for Troops Questioned,” Washington Post, June 17, 2003)

        Bush Administration cuts $172 million allotted for educating the children of military personnel. The Bush Administration’s 2004 budget cut $172 million of impact aid funding. Impact aid funding assists school districts by making up for lost local tax revenue from tax-exempt property, such as military bases. These education cuts will especially affect school-age children of troops serving in Iraq who reside on military bases. (“Support for Troops Questioned,” Washington Post, June 17, 2003)

        Bush Administration tax cut denies military families increase in child tax credit. The families of 262,000 children of military personnel do not receive the child tax credit increase because the plan fails to cover taxpaying families with incomes between $10,500 and $26,625. According to The Washington Post, the House version of the Bush Administration plan “wouldn’t help many of those serving in Iraq.” One solider who will not benefit is Army Specialist Shoshana Johnson, the soldier and single mother who was wounded twice in the same convoy as Jessica Lynch. (“Ex-POW’s Family Accuses Army of Double Standard on Benefit,” Washington Post, October 24, 2003; “The New Senate Child Credit Legislation – What It Does and Does Not Do,” Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, June 25, 2003; “Whose Child Is Left Behind,” Children’s Defense Fund, July 23, 2003

        Bush Administration opposed plan to give National Guard and Reserve Members access to health insurance. Despite the war efforts of America’s National Guard and Reserve Members, the Bush Administration announced in October 2003 its formal opposition to give the 1.2 million Guard and Reserve members the right to buy health care coverage through the Pentagon’s health plan. One out of every five Guard members lacks health insurance. (“Bush Opposes Health Plan for National Guard,” Gannett News Service, October 23, 2003)

  • IKe

    Obama is going to win big in 2012, they will declare Obama is a winner by 11pm, just like 2008. He is going to win Illinois, Pa, NY, NJ, New England, Delaware, Maryland, DC, Virginia, Cally, Oregon,Washington, New Mexico, Colorado and Hawaii. All he needs is Ohio which he has a ten point lead or Florida. He can actually win without either Ohio or Florida, if he can win in Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa and Nevada. , .He is going to whip Willard Rmoney like a red headed stepchild, he may have over 400 electoral votes by the end of the day.

  • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

    macgyver1948 says: I looked at the charts and I still say the O has out spent any of the name President in just three years. Oh, as to Reagan and his spending he had to do it because of what the previous President did to the National Defense. So Sir, if you did more research into what and why each of those name Gentlemen had to do it you would realize that BHO is destroying this nation by his idiot policies and uncontroled spending.

    • macgyver1948

      John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.) — I would realize it that if I did moire research on “those name Gentlemen”. I think you are so right about Obama’s spending but you are missing so much…

  • http://www.facebook.com/steve.lohrstorfer Steve Lohrstorfer

    HEY J.D. HERE’S SOME FACTS
    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Of all the falsehoods told about President Barack Obama, the biggest whopper is the one about his reckless spending spree.

    As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno.”

    Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true.

    Government spending under Obama, including his signature stimulus bill, is rising at a 1.4% annualized pace — slower than at any time in nearly 60 years. But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.

    Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed to increase spending more than Obama has.

    Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:

    • In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.

    • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

      Steve Lohrstorfer …As a fellow Steve, and more importantly here, a fellow defender and supporter of Obama’s I want to applaud your post. But with that said you are preaching to the programmed choir. A choir who, for the most part many of them, will only believe what their programmers want them to believe and not do their own research. For me, I prefer to understand the issues though my own research and then decide and not take what the left says just because the left says it. After all, if we go only by what our chosen party says then we do not have our own opinion, we have someone else’s.

      I, for one, do not just believe what I hear from the left and many times when I do the research I find they are right, some time they are not. Also, when I listen to what comes from the right I research that too and I find much of that to be “engineered truth”. I have to admit, there are rimes, a small percentage though, even the Right says something true and even less often not taken out of context. Wow how we can say a lot of untruth when we leave enough out and the GOP TP are very good at that.

      Oh, by the way, even real honest to goodness fact will not change a closed and programmed mind unless the real owner of that mind wants the facts. The facts merely will get in their way.

      So it is hard to realistically discuss with those who refuse to accept there might be opinions other than the ones they choose to believe. Good luck Steve…

  • Victor J. Fedrizzi

    About Obam*s defeat, you are all crazyer than hell.

  • http://gravatar.com/traderron traderron

    Obama’s defeat doesn’t start now because Romney hasn’t shown us anything that demonstrates that he is the nominee of choice. He and the Establishment that wants him as the nominee stole the nomination from Ron Paul by falsifying caucus and primary results. The debates were manipulated to marginalize Ron Paul and his message. State conventions were manipulated by shut downs, affidavit requirements, bullying delegations, beating up Ron Paul delegates, switching IDs, falsely incarcerating Ron Paul delegates and other tactics I would have expected more from old time union organizing in the auto plants in the 1930s.

    The reason why Romney can’t motivate the conservatives is the conservatives don’t really want him. He has no appeal to them. For Romney to win requires conservatives to vote for him. Romney’s nomination is as scary as the Bob Dole and John McCain nominations were and the results will probably be the same because Romney is practically Obama’s reflection in the mirror. He was the Establishment Republican’s hand picked guy from the beginning and he was shoved down our throats without any real regard of democratic processes in the primary system. There wasn’t any democratic process and the strong arm tactics used by the RNC and the Romney campaign has alienated much of the base and independents. Romney is a G.W.Bush clone and he isn’t really wanted.

    What if the Romney nomination is a red herring? What if the Romney nomination was manipulated with the intention of getting the electorate to believe there is a choice in this election while the powers that be don’t want Obama to be defeated and Romney is their guarantee over a Ron Paul nomination. A Ron Paul nomination would give the voters a real choice between Obama’s ever bigger and bigger Establishment government and Ron Paul’s constitutionally limited government? If Ron Paul were to steal the nomination in August the party would split and the RINOs would finally be out of the party.

    • macgyver1948

      traderron… Romney is the GOP/TP choice because he is the one more controllable. Paul, although better for America than Romney could be, would not put up with the extent of the controlling issues or those pulling the strings as Romney is and will. In other words, Romney is controllable for his price, he is showing that every day.

      There were so many who felt Hillary would make the better Dem choice but, as we know, she wasn’t offered the nomination. We can vote only for who others have chosen. In this election it might come down to what you want – a choice between big government or big Corporate Government. Also it seems to be a choice between which guys, Obama and Romney, Capitalism we like better. Funny though, those two what-it-might-come-down-to(s) are the same thing.

      As for, as you say “The reason why Romney can’t motivate the conservatives is the conservatives don’t really want him”. I think they might not want him, at least the intelligent conservatives, is because they really do see him as an “empty suit” but I think there are other reasons as well. Those are for another time…

      One might be, as you say, “Romney is a G.W.Bush clone”. If you love what GW left us with you will also love Romney because he appointed many of the GW advisors, “the Secretaries of …” and others to join him should he win.

      If Romney were to win:
      See the new Boss
      Same as the old boss

      Not the current boss but the one who will give us Bushonomics all over again. And that ain’t all folks.

      • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

        I’d rather have Bushenomic (as you call them) then what we’ve got now. A Socialist who wants to destroy America. An idiot who bows down to every 2-bit tyrant in the Middle East. An idiot who thinks nothing about insulting our allies: Bowing to low to the Emperior of Japan; he bowed as an underling not as an equal, insulting Israel’s PrimeMinister by snubbing him. This idiot doesn’t know how to lead, leads from behind; doesn’t take responsibilities for his screwups, blames others for them.

        I WANT SOMEONE THAT WILL LEAD FROM THE FRONT! SOMEONE WHO WILL FOLLOW AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION.

        US COMBAT VETERAN: Vietnam ’68-’69, Doorgunner, 1st Cav. Div (AM)
        GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

        • Eric Jones

          Mr Wilch we meet again. now i know we agreed to ignore each other but this NEEDS to be said noone but NOONE goes into politics with the express pupose of destroying ther country. even hittler genunley thought he was helping he was wrong of course but thats what he thought.

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            Mr. Jones, I agree with you said about Hitler. However, I do believe this Organizer in Chief is one of those few exceptions. If you ever read his books you would see that his early upbring taught him to hate what this great nation stands for.

            If he thought he was out to protect and defend what this nation stands for, he would stop blaming others for his mistakes and come up with something new that might work to stimulate things.

            US COMBAT VETERAN: Vietnam ’68-’69, Doorgunner, 1st Cav. Div. (AM)

          • Eric Jones

            He does tend to blame others i grant you but that onley proves immaturity not treason.

        • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

          Ok John, Who? Ok John, Who? Even with Paul’s faults he would be so much better than Romney but it looks like Paul doesn’t have a chance. Romney is a stooge for big corporations because he is the businessman they need in the Oval Office and Romney is for sale to the highest Koch-like “investor”. So who? If there was someone better and good for America I would consider him/her but there is no one running that is worth it and we have Obama who is at least trying to do things with equity for both the middle/lower classes and the big corporations. We are stuck now but Romney will sell us out to corporate interests.

          I do not like everything about Obama but he is trying for all of us as he can while helping himself too. I didn’t like how he bowed to the Saudi king or how he snubbed the Israeli Prime Minister but what can we do about it?

          We need major government reform starting with Congress. We need to include reforming agencies like the FDA because they too work for the corporations and their best interests. Even the EPA needs some re-work but we need it, unlike what the Koch’s want, its total elimination. We need to bring the country back to what the Constitution was meant to be by the Founders and not how our government has evolved it. We The People have allowed all this to happen and we can still take it back by voting out all those in Government who aren’t doing the “Representing” Thing for us.

          ‘Although you and I see things differently I believe we ultimately want the same for our country even if we see the “hows” differently. I would fight again for America but we have to fight the enemies within now. Maybe those ‘within enemies’ are any and all elected officials who are allowing themselves to be bought and by not representing us we lose. From history we know Wealthy Industrialists will always try to but politicians with their big money, the Founders were afraid if that, so we have to make the politicians fear losing their seats more than they want the big money. And that is by dumping those at the voting booths and always be consistent. Maybe also make that kind of conflict of interest very punishable by law too.

          Ok John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.), can we agree on anything?

        • traderron

          Sgt.Wilch,

          Thank you for your service.

          It’s the same old tired scenario being played out again; the lesser of two evils or tweedle-dee versus tweedle-dum for presidential options. Dole versus Clinton, McCain versus Obama. Yes, I would rather have Romney’s toned down fascism over Obama’s screaming Marxism, supposedly for a slight breather in the advancement of total control of the U.S. economy so that we can organize and drive the Progressives out of control. It ain’t a gonna happen. Romney’s election will still give the Establishment a win and only delay the inevitable destruction of the dollar.

          Romney will continue to borrow and spend and the economy will collapse under a Republican president further reinforcing the idea that capitalism doesn’t work. We will not survive another four years of Bush style fascism. Look it up. Fascism is a system where business is privately owned but controlled by government bureaucrats.

          The power elite do not like prosperity for others. Then the “others” are uncontrollable. The soap box failed and Romeny is getting the nomination. After the ballot box if things get worse out comes the last box, the ammo box and my grandchildren not me or my generation will suffer the consequences.

          PS: Dear Dr. (Ben) Franklin, the yahoos you called citizens have lost the Republic and it is their own damned fault for going to sleep at the wheel, believing lying politicians and allowing them to gain control over us. It took 236 years for the Hamiltonians to win control over this once great nation. It is too bad it wasn’t a harder fight for them. They just walked into politics and beat us down at the polls with the help of the newspaper editors and professors in the colleges and universities. Unfortunately, at my age of 69, I won’t be around long enough to stand on the barricades with my grandchildren and fight the bastards. It is going to end in the streets–one way or the other. It will be us or them–freedom or government control–the followers and hirelings of Romney, Bush, Soros, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Schumer, and Obama versus the people.

      • Theodore

        If the Republican Party in congress would stop voting on proposals which have no chance of passing they might be forced into actually coming up with new and inovative legislation. The current Republican reactive voting proposals against ObamaCare are just a waste of time. As an independent voter, I can see that the GOP is acting like a spoiled brat instead of recovering and getting on with its stated job of enacting new legislation.

        Romney is cooperating with this congressional policy of obstructionism which shows me that he is being run by congressional supporters as well as his wealthy backers and not being able to stand up for his own ideas.

        • macgyver1948

          Theodore… We seem to agree. I am a democrat by registration but I go by issues. I tend to go along with the left because they make so much more sense than the GOP for the middle and lower classes. Also with all the TP influence on the GOP there is no way I see liberty in them for any who aren’t very wealthy and/or a big corporation. The TP has Romney in their pockets with all the money Koch and others threw at him so I can’t stomach Mitt. Mitt is a super phony.

          In general I agree with you.

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            Then, Sir, you must like the idea that O is receiving money from the likes of Soros, and that idiot I can’t remember his name but he’s the one that like to call women names. Oh, how about Bill Airs(?) the unrepentant terriores (the one that bombed police stations)?

            Atleast, Gov. Romney will not be bowing to every 2-bit tyrant in the middle-east, like O has done and will continue to do as long as he is holding the office. I hope the American people have woken up and will send him and the b packin’ this November.

          • Steve L.

            Welch,go work at Fox news, you sound just like them. Your a bitter hack who claims to be a freedom loving american but in fact your just another Ignorant anti POTUS and our enemies thank you for your hard work

            His post-election piece argued that the attacks on Obama had been a “profoundly dishonest drama,” including a false depiction of Ayers as a terrorist (“I never killed or injured anyone”) and an exaggeration of his connection to Obama (“We didn’t pal around, and I had nothing to do with his positions”).[52]

            William C. Ibershof, the lead federal prosecutor of the Weather Underground case, wrote to The New York Times on October 9, 2008:
            I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child. Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.[64]

          • John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)

            Sir(?) and I use that term lightly. I spent more than 30+ years defending this Wonderful country against all enemies foreign and domestic. I hope you are enjoying the Freedoms that I and others like me defended.

            I saw what these policies (Socialist, Marxist, Communistic) can do to a country: Government sponsered healthcare (the only ones with healthcare are members of the party, bread lines that extend aroung the block, governmental school where they brainwash the children into thinking that the Government can provide you with everthing, the govenment telling you where you can live and work. In otherwords, Sir, A COUNTRY OF SLAVES. Also a country where they will tell you if you can to attend College, that is if they think you are smart enough, if not they will tell you that you have to work in a factory somewhere. Thats not the life I want or want for my children.

            Furthermore, you spelled my name wrong.

            US COMBAT VETERAN: Vietnam ’68-’69, Doorgunner, 1st Cavalry Division (AM). “GO FIRST TEAM1″

            GOD BLESS THE US OF A and MAY SHE REIGN FOREVER!

          • http://www.facebook.com/steve.lohrstorfer Steve Lohrstorfer

            Then act like it. Your service to your country doesn’t entitle you to spread total (expletive deleted). Everything you say about Obama is false. Your great fears for this country are exagerated. You’ve been on this same story for weeks. A MAJORITY OF AMERICANS, OVER 70 MILLION 5 HUNDRED THOUSAND AMERICANS VOTED FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA, MORE VOTES THAN ANY AMERICAN PRESIDENT EVER. YOU SAY YOU DEFEND THIS COUNTRY AND THE CONSTITUTION. PRESIDENT OBAMA’S PRESIDENCY IS THE CONSTITUTION, IF YOU DON’T SUPPORT HIM YOUR JUST ANOTHER LOUDMOUTH WHO ONLY SUPPORTS DEMOCRACY WHEN THE GUY YOU WANT WINS. YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE A REAL ARGUMENT, EVERYTHING YOU SPEW OUT IS WRONG,CONGRESS IS WAY MORE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MESS WE ARE IN, AND YOUR THE SAP IF YOU BUY INTO IT. THE OVER 70 MILLION OF US ARE AMERICANS TOO, GET ON BOARD OR EVERYTHING YOU CLAIM TO HAVE FOUGHT FOR IS BOGUS.

          • Joseph Lundy

            I also like to add that Congress enjoys goverment paid for health care. They have access to the best of healthcare plans paid for by our taxpayer dollars. Yet , the Republican Congress will seek to prevent and repeal access to health care to over 30 million uninsured Americans.They continue to report the lie that government will take over your health care. The truth is our health care has long been in the hands of profit making capitalistic insurance companies. These companies limit our health care by dictating to the medical providers what they will or will not pay for. I know of a case where a young beautiful child has died because the insurance company would not pay for a needed surgical procedure. Not only do I hope President Obama wins but I hope that the American people will wake up and do a total sweep of the Republicans clowns from the House and the Senate.

          • traderron

            Social Security is broke. Medicare is broke. Medicaid is broke. Amtrak trains don’t run on time or make a profit. The military is spending as much as the rest of the world combined. The government is borrowing forty cents of every dollar it spends from the Chinese and you want more of the same?

            Unfortunately Romney is an Obama clone and it won’t get any better even if he is elected.
            There was only one candidate for smaller government and the neocons marginalized him so that no matter who gets elected, things aren’t going to get any better for the working folks. The irresponsible spending will continue under Romney or Obama. The Establishment always wins.

            How can we fight back—-vote?—-Voting is what got us here? We never have a Democrat and a Republican running for president. The Republican candidate is always a Democrat clone like McCain or Dole or Bush. So what we get for candidates is a committed Democrat and a Republican pretender. The Establishment always wins.

            Obamacare has made us all slaves of the government and with 20,000 new IRS agents there won”t be any place or any way to hide. The Democrats have been trying since 1932 to Socialize America and Obama has been the successful one. He has made us all slaves of the government. The Establishment always wins.

            The MSM are in on the scam and do everything that they can to protect their golden boy. If the news channels, including Fox News, reported on Obama like they do on Republicans and told the truth about this guy he would have never been elected. Then again Romney, Gingrich and Santorum would have been out in the cold too.

            If you’re happy with government today. I have a perfectly good bridge in Brooklyn, N.Y., for you to take a look at. If the price is right I might even let it go cheap.

          • Steve L.

            Nobody says they’re happy with govt., that’s why their approval rating is 11%. If stupid people want to blame Obama for everything that’s wrong with government and in this country its just silly.

          • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

            Steve L…. I agree with your response comment, blaming Obama for the conditions we are in is deeper than silly. The problems began so many decades ago. Maybe I am over simplifying it but I see what started so long ago as the main cause, along with some others, and the Founders warned us about it. We might be able to fix most of them with Government Reform but we must all band together and demand it.

            I too want smaller less intrusive government but we have to be compassionate and prudent about how we do it. The founders said if “We The People” do not like how our government evolves we need to take it back. I want that done non-violently, painlessly. Then when we make the needed reforms we have to make all future “representatives” fear for their re-elections from us in voting more than they desire all that huge campaign donations. Campaign reform is very much high on the list. We have to make the government more as the Founders wanted for us but with a “current” day reality thought process. What ever the “Citizen Representatives” want for us they too should be subjected to as well. Why should Congress have such better retirement and health plans than those who are paying for them?

            A few days ago I was told I lost all my arguments with some brainwashed idiot on here because I didn’t have all the answers. I never claim I do but since he didn’t like what I was saying naturally I have to be wrong. I changed how I write on this site because there are many here who will get into the name-calling insult game when you do not agree with them. He and other one sided, one way thinking people on here will not see opposing views as potentially valid. We need different views or it just wouldn’t be America. It would be as Hitler demanded, ‘only his way’.

            Anyway, back to what I think is just about the biggest cause of our potential downfall. The Founders knew and history is showing they were so right. We need smaller and less intrusive Government but we cannot trade Big Government for Corporate Government. The Corporate influence, with their huge money influencing our politicians, is killing America.

            If they win, and Romney is very much a corporate puppet, we will be left with only two classes. The small elite class with almost all the money and the rest of us as the poor dependent class. If people do not like Obama vote for someone they think will work more for us but Romney is taken by the Koch like people. Anyone who says or agrees with “Corporations are people too” are not on the same side as we UN-wealthy and very much not in with the Founders. I think the Founders would be revolting against today’s Red Coats and the corporations because of the many things they said. For example:

            “I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.” – Thomas Jefferson

            Thomas Jefferson and others were very much in favor of “Separation Of Corporation And State”. How very wise to this day they were. We need to know more of the Funders, as they really were and not how they are being phonied up to us today.

            One more point I want to make. With Government approval ratings as low as they are why do we continue to “Re-hire” them?

          • traderron

            I’m not blaming Obama for the past sins of the government. I’m only blaming him for the nationalization of health care and bringing socialized medicine to America. He poses as a know-it-all with all the solutions and he either hasn’t got the slightest clue as to what needs to be done to improve the economy or he’s destroying it on purpose to finally accomplish what his fellow Progressive travelers want and that is the destruction of America. He is a complete ASS and is posturing as the messiah who has all the answers to save America. BALONEY! He couldn’t think his way our of a paper bag without his teleprompters and handlers.

            Without his friends in higher places he’s an empty suit. His friends in higher places saw to it that he got the job by guaranteeing his election by their machinations in getting a Bob Dole clone–John McCain to run against him.

            Unfortunately Romney is Obama-lite and won’t do what is necessary to solve our problems either. The power elite chose Obama in 2008 and they have chosen Romney for 2012. the Establishment always wins. Unfortunately my children and grand children will be paying for the follies of the present presidential boob and the presidential hopeful boob if Romney is elected.

          • Eric Jones

            I cant help but find it funny how you brag about fighting for freedom and yet you defend capitilism the system that founded slavery all the while fighting socialism the system that would remove ther chains. yeah funny….. in a dark way.

          • http://gravatar.com/macgyver1948 macgyver1948

            John Wilch (TSgt, USAF Ret.)…. Ok Tsgt…. What make you think I like the idea that O is receiving money from the likes of Soros, and that idiot I can’t remember his name but he’s the one that like to call women names”. And would you think any politician at the senate or Presidential levels could run a campaign without big contributions? I just hope Soros is no where as evil as Koch is with their major influence on their puppet Mitt.

            Then you say “Atleast, Gov. Romney will not be bowing to every 2-bit tyrant in the middle-east, like O has done and will continue to do as long as he is holding the office.” Those bows were primarily politically motivated, although I wasn’t very happy about them. And since bows are primarily symbolic for Obama we should talk about how much Romney will be on his knees for the Koch’s and as many of the big corporations as he feels the greed for.

            Oh. Today we are hearing about Romney’s possible discrepancy concerning when he might have really left Bain and when he relinquished power and control over Bain. Could that be the big secret why he gave up only one income tax return and not more? I wrote something today after reading those articles and I will post it here. Look for it if you are not to busy telling people what they think and believe and “calling them names” as kindergarten school kids do. Is that a TEA bag thing or is it GOP too?

  • Theodore

    The Romney campaign is now supported by the Dick Cheney faction of the last Bush-Cheney administration. They are scheduled to meet on Thursday 7-12 at Cheney’s house. The media coverage of this event is practically non existant since it would link Romney with a Republican who started two wars and an administration which brought on this current recession. Romney is keen on surpressing the identity of his supporters and the money interests whom they represent.

    • traderron

      Romney doesn’t want the small government Republicans to know how many members of his staff and advisers are Bush retreads. The Republican Party isn’t turning on to Mitt. He is a liberal Republican hand picked by the powers that control the Establishment Republican Party. His conservative credentials are nil and he can’t hide that. This election is going to be a very special McCain/Dole moment in November. The results of which the 52% which are the productive citizens will have to live with.

      The Lawyers for Ron Paul have filed a lawsuit, that if successful, will force it to be an open convention. The Republican Party needs a genuine conservative leader and an open convention might reveal a dark horse in the wings.

    • macgyver1948

      Theodore… I am not sure if it really matters at this point who Romney hooks up with. Romney has asked many of the GW bush advisors, economic, war and etc., the Secretaries of… and others, to be Mitt advisors if he wins. So we are re-electing Bushisms again, if Romney wins, I hope all those who vote for Mitt are loving what bush left us with and what Koch will demand of Romney – and who knows whom else.. If you make huge investments you will ‘want’ huge dividends.

  • macgyver1948

    Point one. Who was the first presidential candidate to offer up his tax returns voluntarily, which happened to be around 12 years worth?

    Point two. Who is the only presidential candidate since that first one, from “Point one”, to fight making public his returns and only after great public pressure did he offer up only one year’s worth? WHY all the others since that first one, offering theirs freely, and not this guy?

    Let’s see if you have guessed who those 2 are in both points.

    Point one answer: It was George Romney, Mitt’s father.

    George Romney released 12 years worth of tax returns to the American people when he ran for president (1968). Since then, presidential candidates — Republicans and Democrats — have followed his lead and released multiple tax records for public scrutiny.

    All presidential candidates, except one.

    Point two answer (and why?): Mitt Romney has released only one year of records after persistent public pressure. It raises the question: What does Mitt have to hide?

    Voters deserve to know. Yeah, we do but why does he hide from us? Let’s see if a recent report could be the answer.

    Whatever you think of releases from Yahoo (research this Yahoo report on your own) here it is and it might explain why Mitt is so not ‘taxreturn’ complying.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/questions-romney-left-bain-capital-135713042.html – entitled “New questions about when Romney officially left Bain Capital”.

    Maybe it is just not the “Bain” thing to do but it was daddy’s.

  • macgyver1948

    Maybe the report is only one reason Romney is hiding his stuff, other stuff we have a right to know. Maybe there are loads of things he doesn’t want us to know, like how much he disagrees with the Founding Fathers on Corporations. The Founders would have spit in Romney’s face with “After all, corporations are people too”. Tell me again whose side Romney is on. The Koch’s might cut him off if he tells the truth. Mitt can’t have that because he and Ann might as well just run home if that happens.

    If you do not like Obama that is fine. Find someone else you think is better but Mitt is not for us when he is owned by the Koch’s of the country – Big Corporations, unless you are of them too but not if you are middle or lower class.

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