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Obama’s Birth, Bin Laden’s Death

May 13, 2011 by  

Obama’s Birth, Bin Laden’s Death

My goodness gracious, what a week it was for wild and wacky news stories. First, the President of the United States finally succumbed to the mounting controversy on April 27 and asked the State of Hawaii to produce some evidence that he was actually born there.

In fact, President Barack Obama had an aide fly from Washington to Honolulu to pick up the “Certificate of Live Birth.” Surely, the post office could have overnighted the darned thing to him for a lot less money. We were assured by the White House that we taxpayers didn’t pay any of the expenses for the trip. Sure. Like everyone involved made certain they were off the clock for the many hours they spent discussing the “birther” controversy and what to do about it.

Ever since Obama’s “Certificate of Live Birth” was released to the public, my mailbox has been full of articles and other postings allegedly proving the thing is a forgery. Frankly, I’ve never paid a lot of attention to the whole “birther” controversy. I suspect Barack Hussein Obama is exactly who he claims to be — the son of a white mother and black father who was born a citizen of the United States and raised to become a rabble-rousing redistributionist who couldn’t wait to get his hands on the reins of government so he could punish the productive and give to the unproductive. That’s what every Marxist tyrant in history has done. Obama has been treading a well-worn path.

Assuming he was born in Hawaii, as we’re supposed to believe, why did his grandmother say he was born in Kenya? And an even better question is: Why did he allow this controversy to drag on so long? He could have produced that “Certificate of Live Birth” years ago if he had so desired. Why didn’t he? I have never heard a good answer to either question.

I have to admit it was amusing to hear the president refer to Donald Trump as a carnival barker and for The Donald immediately to claim credit for accomplishing something the entire media had been unable to do — get Obama to show and tell.

Now that most of us can finally agree that Barack Hussein Obama is Constitutionally eligible to be president of the United States, how about we turn our attention to a truly important question? That is, how do we get him to follow the Constitution in his policies?

Will all of this finally put the “birther” controversy to rest? No. In fact, I can confidently predict I will receive even more emails on the subject (many of them telling me what an idiot I am to believe Obama is native-born). If you don’t believe me, come back to these pages in a few days and check the comments section below.

If you’re having trouble believing the 44th President was born in the U.S., how do you feel about the story of how Osama bin Laden was killed on May 2 in a daring U.S. military raid half a world away?

I am going to accept the whole incredible story hook, line and sinker. I believe an elite group of Navy Seals, after very specialized and secret training, flew from Afghanistan to northern Pakistan, landed behind the 10-foot walls of a mysterious compound, raced upstairs to the third floor where bin Laden was staying, shot two of his guards (and one poor, defenseless woman who was used as a shield), then shot Osama in the head — twice — when he tried to resist.

How an unarmed man “resisted” what must have looked like the SWAT team from hell, I have no idea. I don’t believe for a minute this was a dead-or-alive mission. I think the orders were clear from the beginning — either bin Laden dead or all of you. This was no bring-him-back-alive effort.

Thank goodness. Can you imagine what would have happened if the United States really had tried to enforce the “justice” Obama and his Attorney General promised? A “fair trial” in a civilian court, with a judge giving his lawyers full access to everything the CIA ever learned about him? What a disaster that would have been!

There were no U.S. fatalities, unless you count a helicopter that landed so hard it couldn’t fly again and had to be destroyed. (That reminded me of some of my favorite horse stories in which beloved stallions break their legs and have to be put down.)

This story has something for everyone, doesn’t it? I love some of the details, such as the rotten jihadist who tried to use a woman as a shield. As Dr. Phil would say, “How did that work out for you, buddy?”

I do have to say, it’s amusing to see Obama take credit for violating every campaign promise and nasty accusation he ever made about former President George W. Bush’s efforts to bring bin Laden to justice. We found out where bin Laden was via the “enhanced interrogation” of captives, which Obama denounced as illegal torture. We housed our enemies in secret prisons and Guantanamo. We broke more international laws than I can count during the mission — including not telling Pakistan we were invading their country.

The Navy Seals shot bin Laden to death without any hesitation or remorse. Yes, Obama made some brave calls in sanctioning the mission. He deserved the bounce in public esteem he’s received. Now, it’s time for him to do one more thing: Tell his Attorney General to stop the persecution of those CIA agents he’s “investigating” because of their harsh interrogation of al-Qaida operatives who had been captured. Without it, bin Laden would still be alive today.

Had I been giving the orders, I don’t think I would have told the U.S. military to dump the body at sea so quickly. I don’t normally disrespect the religious beliefs of someone else; but in this case, I would have made an exception. Unlike some of my British forebears, I wouldn’t have paraded bin Laden’s head around Washington on a spike. But I would have made certain the world got to see enough of the body to believe it really was bin Laden who descended to his eternal reward.

I’m sorry, but an alleged match of DNA records or fingerprints (where did the originals come from, by the way?) just does not carry the same credibility.

By the way, it will be fascinating to see what’s on the computers our soldiers seized. Maybe we will learn who had been protecting bin Laden for the five years we’re told he lived in that compound in Abbottabad. As Ann Coulter observed, “Pants are wetting throughout Pakistan’s military establishment.”

In any case, congratulations to everyone involved in this decades-long effort — especially to the incredibly talented, brave and resourceful men who carried it off.  They have earned free drinks at any bar in the country for the rest of their lives. What stories they will have to tell their children and grandchildren!

I have to confess, I was sorry this didn’t happen on Bush’s watch. Not that I was a big fan of the past President. As any longtime reader of this column knows, I was as a critical of that big-spending internationalist and his neoconservative cronies as I have been of his successor.

I do believe that the man who rallied the country after 9/11 deserved to see bin Laden killed a lot more than his successor. But let’s not quibble. Once again, America got her man. And it was thrilling to see the spontaneous demonstrations that broke out all across the country and, in fact, all around the world with the news that bin Laden had been killed.

It may not have been “justice,” as we Americans would normally use the word. But it sure was satisfying.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • smilee

    You know your beating a dead horse, do yourself a favor. give it up!!!!

    • BOB

      Smilee TRY A GOOGLE SEARCH ON BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE SEE WHAT YOU FIND THEN GOOGLE BARACK OBAMA ADOPTION SEE WHAR YOU FIND THEN REPLY

      • karolyn

        You believe everything you see and read on the internet?

        • MSSouth

          Do you believe everything your liberal masters tell you?

          • rev.dan

            Oh my my, what extortionist(the twisting ) of truth the conservative right has become
            their masters have in fact become the Devil, Satan and anything that is evil to creat more division and discontent. Christ called this mindset “Oh generation of viper and hypocrites” when He said it to the religious leaders of his day. Now lets see, viper a term associated with poisonous, venomous snakes, snakes. the biblical term serpent. Now serpent is the devil, Satan.this article is right on one point. Obama was born in the us. thast all this artical is correct on.
            Rev.Dan

          • ValDM

            rev.dan,
            I’ve seen you post that same comment so many times, it should have whiskers on it by now. Get some new material. Particularly, if you’re going to use Christ as your shield.

          • Eddie47d

            Gotta love Chip playing good cop bad cop in his analysis. That way he wins over both sides. He tells everyone to believe that it’s true and then in the next breath tells everyone to doubt everything. He’s superb in keeping every story on edge so we’ll come back for more.

          • DaveH

            Well, I certainly hope he keeps it up, Eddie, we wouldn’t want to lose you. After all, you are our poster boy for the typical Liberal.

          • Ralph Johnson

            Hey, rev Dan, What flavor kool aid do you like. Obama is a fake, his birth cert is a fake, he is a socialist liberal pig, and he should be run out of office on a rail, tar and feathers to boot. I for one can not wait for 2012 to see this garbage thrown out of our White House so that we can fumigate the building. No, in case your wondering, I am not biased because he is a black man. If the next POTUS is going to be a black man, or woman, then let it be Lt Col. Allen West of Florida, or Herb Cain, or even Condi Rice. But Barry Sotero is a disgrace to the office plain and simple.They have had over two years to manfacture a birth cert for him and the one they released is a fake. It has been shown that the type set on the manufactured one was not available at the time barry was supposedly born ………where ever they say he was. Soooooooo, what flavor do you like? I can send you some if you can’t find any over there where you live.Just give me an address and I’ll get it out to you as soon as possible.

          • Roy Major

            I find enough untruth in what Chip Wood says to cast doubt on what he says about anybody, especially “liberals”.

          • denniso

            Chip Wood has absolutely no credibility and is only a rightwing demagogue as evidenced by his equating Obama w/ all the ‘Marxists tyrants’ whose path he is trodding…come on Chip!! Do you have to play so blatantly and obviously to the hard rightwingers that you can’t be taken seriously by anyone else?

            You say, in raising more ridiculous ‘birther’ junk, that you have never
            gotten an answer to why Obama didn’t end the questioning of his birth earlier. Now that’s just a outright lie or you pay no attention to what’s actually going on. Obama released his short form birth certificate back in the campaign and it’s the form that is used for all legal transactions like passports,etc. You want to appear to be smarter and above the fray created by the rabble over the birth issue,yet you then use it for political smearing. I imagine you are smart enough to know exactly what you are doing,Chip.

          • http://Google.com Gary Gerke

            You my friend, are a real out there freak, keep smoking the kool aid you should have drinking!

          • DaveH

            Denniso,
            Take anything Chip said, and prove it wrong. Just one thing.

            And it is you, Denniso, and most of your fellow Liberals who have no credibility on this board. You’ll need to take your emotional, fabricated facts to a Liberal board if you want agreement.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Well Rev, let me tell ya – Little Barry’s B/C has been shown to be a fraud by several people who are very tech savy. This B/C issue has been used to divert attention away from Barry’s dual citizenship which disallows him from occupying OUR White House. The issue also has been used to divert attention away from the fact that Barry’s entire life history has been sealed.

            Grease up and remove your head from your rectal socket.

            Are you Wright’s Associate Pastor?

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Ralph:

            “and he should be run out of office on a rail, tar and feathers to boot”.

            Actually he should be removed from office in handcuffs, tried, convicted and sent to Levenworth for a long trip on a short rope.

        • jibbs

          And you refuse to believe to truth, the truth is in the BC. His father is from kenya(british citizen). When he was adopted, he gave up his citizenship from the U.S. Why doe’s your brain malfunction when you are givin the truth? Not facts, but TRUTH. The age of his mother and her country hopping also makes it illegal for him to to be POTUS. The crap you post makes you look stupid, try doing some research, and please include a reference to where you find your info.(something you never ever do)

          • David Warheit

            If someone is born a citizen of the United States, there is no way he can lose that citizenship by being adopted. Only the citizen himself can take action to lose his citizenship. Even then, the citizen would have to be an adult and competent. Your claim that Obama had his US citizenship taken away from him by his parents while he was a child is completely wrong.

          • texastwin827

            Jibbs…you are wrong about him “giving up” his US citizenship when he was adopted (2 of my 4 grandchildren are dual citizens.. American/Irish citizens). As long as his mother remained a US citizen, his dual citizenship, per se, was not effected. Also, his citizenship would have remained as a US citizen until he became of age and could choose. My grandchildren are free to remain dual citizens, for life, if they choose to do so. Their only restriction is that they will need a US passport, which they have, to leave/re-enter the US. They are also eligible to have a British passport, to travel in Europe or anywhere else in the world.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            texastwinn:

            Interesting comment.

            Where is Little Barry’s passport??

            It seems it is also locked up, sealed, hidden along with ALL of his life history records….

            Hmmmm.

          • denniso

            DaveH…’prove anything Chip said is a lie’? If you need ‘proof’ that Obama is not a Stalin,Pol Pot or other ‘Marxist tyrant’,then you are truly as dumb as some of the dumbest on this site. I’ve figured you for smarter than most of the losers here,but I’ll rethink my calculation.
            Everyone who pays any attention knows that Obama released his legal short form B/C in the campaign. The shortform is legal for all needs in this country. For Chip Wood to ignore the facts just so he can make political hay against Obama is scurrilous and pathetic.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Denniso:

            “Stalin,Pol Pot or other ‘Marxist tyrant” Obama? Naw, that is what Sen Dick Durbin – Socialist from the Land of Stincoln, called our military personnel while speaking on the Senate floor in June of 2005.

          • DaveH

            Talk about a diversionary comment!
            That was the most extraordinary load of cow dung I’ve seen on this site yet, Dumniso. And it figures that it would come from you.
            How did that very obtuse comment prove that anything Chip Wood said was a lie?
            This isn’t that hard, Dumniso. Just pick one sentence that Chip Wood wrote, and prove that it is a lie.
            Apparently, you didn’t even read the article, because Chip never said that he didn’t believe Obama was born in the US.
            You have no credibility on this board, Dumniso.

          • Mike in MI

            JIbb’s-
            I still don’t care what anybody says I think he should be given his rightful due and accepted for who he is.
            His mother’s name was not what is claimed. Her name, if you do a real thorough search you’ll find was “Rosemary”.
            And, HE is “ROSEMARY’S BABY”.

          • Brian

            What is good for the goose is good for the gander, jibbs.

            Where are your sources?

        • DaveH

          We certainly wouldn’t take your word for it, Karolyn.
          You have the time to educate us on the board but don’t have the time to read any books and learn something. Yeah, sure.

          • Al Sieber

            Rev. Dan, you’re full of it, you can kiss my sister’s a$$,if you play Obama’s favorite phrase backwards, “Yes We Can”, it says THANK YOU SATAN.

        • WayneT

          Where do you get your information,Karolyn????

        • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

          karolyn , Can you say Kenya is where I belong, Do yourself a favor and go back to Africa, I’m sure you will be very welcomed, if you say I’m for Ubama.

      • Charles B

        Hello BOB, Obama’s birth certificate is a phony as they come. he could have gotten a better one for 75 bucks in Downtown LA. Cause if it’s real then why did it take almost two years form him to produce it?????

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          CharlesB:

          Also, I read an article on WND, I think, that said the name of the hospital used on Barry’s B/C was not used until 1978 when the two hospitals merged.

          And we thought dick-for-brains was phony as a $3 bill….

          • Cathy

            I too have read about the hospital issue. In 1961 there were two hospitals in Honolulu. One was Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital & th eother was Kapi’olani Maternity Home. The two hospitals merged in 1978 & was named “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. How in the world could anyone have known 17 years ahead of time that these two hospitals would merge to become one??

    • Insurgent

      Smilee, if you have not figured out the idiot in the White House is a liar and the fact he will do whatever it takes to destroy this country, I will truly pray for you.
      Life’s tough, but it is tougher when you are stupid.
      John Wayne

      • Lastmanstanding

        I’m having my coffee in a cup that says just that!

        We have had no water since last night. Culligan was here yesterday to fix a problem in our conditioner/softener. A simple inconvienence.
        It got me to thinking.

        We Americans are pathetic…even those of us that run businesses and work everyday. To those on the “dole” who depend on wealth redistribution for their means of living on a planet that will soon reject them and those that enslave us, Your day is near…

        A day is coming that will turn all of our lives upside down. Even those of us that are relatively self-sufficient will have a difficult time at best…What about those who have no clue?

        • kodster5

          LMS, you’ve got it! Even my own husband prefers to put his head in the sand, and ignore what is coming down the pipeline. It’s one of our biggest points of contention, because he wants to spend, spend, spend, yet he’s the biggest hypocrite of liberals’ policies. Me, I’m wanting to put aside, plant a survival garden, stock up on food for the long-haul, get some defense weapons, etc. We’re on 2 different pages, and I know that I’m on the right one, and now I’m ready to kick his butt to the curb over it, because I’ll be damned if he puts me in a position of not being able to survive! Just like the ones that who don’t have a clue, and suddenly find themselves sitting on the curb, wondering what the hell happened to their entitlements, because they chose to be dumbed down and ignore the warnings. I was raised to be self-sufficient, to not rely on someone else to do the right thing. My husband hates that about me, but I’m thankful, and grateful, my parents (and God, for that matter, because He put me in their lives) taught me how to be self-sufficient. Both of them lived through the great depression, and had to live by pulling up their own bootstraps. Yes, they pulled together with their community as well, helping neighbors when they needed help, and vice versa, but they didn’t rely on public assistance, etc. You made it on your own.

          • jibbs

            If I were you, I’d plant the garden, stash some cash, stash food, a Berkey water filter and buy your own defence weapons and ammo. If your gonna spend, get what you need, and not what you want If it all goe’s south, you can surprise your hubby with needed gifts to survive. God luck.

          • DaveH

            Divorce the bum, Kodster! That was a joke. But seriously, you should make the investments you desire with your half. Later on, if like the grasshopper he wants to share when the s___ hits the fan, you will have the power to decide if he does or doesn’t.

          • Curtis B.

            Rev.Dan, “Reverend?” Ahem……WHERE did you go to school??? Your spelling, grammar and punctuation is so bad it makes you look ignorant to say the least, which makes very questionable what you were trying to say. I’m guessing you got your “Reverend Certificate” out of some mail order house???

          • Christin

            Kodster5,

            I hear you. I am an independant type, too, and I really hate relying on my spouse or others. He, however, has Control of the keys, money, guns, computer, phones, vehicles in His name, and the important files which are organized so he can function well, but I don’t have axcess to those things and I can’t functioning so well. I have to ask him for this or that. I finally got him to give me keys to the two gates and the Kubota key (he hides them) is now in a place where he and I both know. I still don’t have a post office box key…ugh.

            My spouse is rarely on the same page as me, but he listened to the radio (Savage, Hannity, others), looked on the internet to do End Times research, and read ‘some’ of my forwarded e-mails, and watched some of Glenn Beck. He has seen the big picture since 2008… thus we bought land, built a farmhouse, bought boxed dehydrated food, also stocked up on some water and dry & paper goods, gunns & ammo, and I made a medical kit. [Each one of us is also right with God and saved... sorry, I thought that was really important, too.] Last year and again this spring we bought and planted many fruit trees (put deer cages around them) and a garden. It has been a lot of work and a work in progress, but I can rest some knowing we have made some preparations for our family of four. Many Posters have done more and I have learned a wealth of things from them and there is always much more that one can learn and do.

            I liked what Jibbs said in response to you… get what you guys will both need and put it away. Start now by buying two cans of soup, two bags of rice and beans, two boxes of bandages, salts and sugars, and packets of seeds instead of one and soon you will have a whole shelf or cupboard of necessities when prices are too high or another crisis hits.

            The Best to you.

          • Richard Pawley

            Kodster5: Kudos to you. You know with God’s help you can do what you need to do. Don’t argue with your husband, just buy an extra can of coffee, jar of spaghetti sauce (in glass jars only), can of Tuna Fish, bag of sugar, rice or beans, each time you shop. Eight pounds of spaghetti will fit in an airtight plastic barrel that pretzels come in and I have one left that is a decade old and so far is fine. My mother grew up in the depression and she moved on last year at 92. She gave me ten cans of imported German coffee that were ten years old and nine of them were still good – and they were not even stored in a cool dry basement as is recommended. It will cost more not buying in quantity but you can learn to can foods when they are in season and cheaper. Why do you need your husband to start a small garden? Something is better than nothing. It may be a few years yet before people are really going hungry in this country, so there is still some time, but the price of food is going up many times faster than the official rate of inflation. I can understand spending money before it loses it’s value but I’ve always liked that verse in the Old Testament that says, “Why do you buy what you can’t eat or wear?” Going on a vacation is not a bad thing because your spirit needs refreshment too, but Americans are, one day, going to be shocked at the inflation that all the waste in Washington is going to create. Sadly, they may not realize that it is the printing and borrowing and spending of money we don’t have that is the cause. Obama and the progressives will likely be blamed but we must all remember that it is CONGRESS who goes along with all this squandering of all we can borrow or print. If congress didn’t pass the increase of the national debt every couple of years at the request of the owners of the Federal Reserve Bank (remember they get about 40% of every new dollar we borrow in interest) then we wouldn’t be so far in debt. Of course the population wants more and more that they never earned so the system is terminal. All of history shows that but the progressives and Marxist socialists block that out of their consciousness. They hate the idea that they are not God and that some have more than others have. Additionally to many citizens want something for nothing and this is why democracies are always a temporary form of government, although they can last a long time. We are supposed to be a republic but we seem to be morphing into a quasi-socialist form or government controlled by the elite who think of themselves as, well, the elite! A few think they are gods. Anyway, the coming tripling of prices takes time to work it’s way through the system and while some think we only have 12 to 36 months it is really impossible to tell how long it will take, but if you are healthy you are likely to see the 250% inflation that is coming. Some think it may take a decade but at our current rate of spending I don’t see how we could possibly last that long. What we do in five years or ten years will be meaningless if we don’t do the right thing this year. Some progressive liberals would like to greatly reduce the population and that kind of thinking is conducive to war. People are already complaining about $4 gasoline (unavailable that cheap anywhere around here) but chapter four of my book, “The Last Days of the Late Great United States and the Great Famine that Followed” is entitled “Gasoline or Milk Ten Dollars a Gallon” and a recent paper by a private investment team, a group that works to help the rich prepare, has come to nearly the same conclusion, although they say gasoline could go to $11 a gallon and milk $10. Gasoline prices that high will please the current administration and the EPA and all those liberals who believe that it is mankind alone who is making the world grow warmer, but such prices will have a devastating effect on the rest of us. Time is passing and you should not waste time as it is the most precious commodity of all. Start increasing the size of your cupboard or pantry. Buy local from a nearby farmer you get to know (the farm where I drive five miles to buy eggs does not feed their chickens corn because natural corn, the way God and nature created it, is so hard to obtain. Some 86% of corn and 93% of soybeans are all genetically engineered laboratory creations. I go out of my way to avoid unnatural genetically modified foods that have never been tested on a human population – it is being tested, of course, for the past two decades and we are the test – if you doubt they are dangerous read up on how farmers are now required to sign a statement when they buy their seed from Monsanto that they (the farmers) will forever be responsible for whatever effect this may have on anyone, and other farmers are complaining that the genetically engineered food they have been feeding their cattle and hogs is causing spontaneous abortions. The FDA has former Monsanto people working for them and thus they usually get whatever they want. My suggestion, only buy organic beef and chickens and eggs. Have you noticed that the increase in autism in our population began about the same time we started giving babies dozens of vaccines (while we only had three or four before we started school) AND around the same time that these new untested laboratory created foods were introduced into the American diet? (Nearly 80% of prepared foods contain GMO ingredients and unlike Europe where people are told which do this isn’t required here. It’s just food says the FDA and those companies who make such things, how can that hurt you? It might just be a coincidence but how come the Amish who don’t even use chemical fertilizers and certainly don’t use GMO seeds have very little autism, about what the general population had 25 years ago? To much to tell and we certainly don’t know all there is to know but it sounds like you have a good idea about the hard times that are coming. In my 2006 autobiography, recently updated, there is one 25 page chapter on the economy where I warned of the then coming stock market crash and what I called the GREATER DEPRESSION. Well, I am not alone in believing that a much greater financial crisis is coming although they may call it something else. Unless we can get congress to stop raising the budget the price of food and fuel and most other “things” we actually use are going to triple in price. Remember the old saying, better to be years to early, than one day to late. Keep track of prices to show your husband if he will even listen. Otherwise do what you can. The reason your husband can’t face the inflation and the chaos that all the governmental waste and congressional spending is going to cause is something the psychologists call “The Normalcy Bias”. Basically this just means that since your husband has never had to face anything like this personally and since it is not in his range of vision or memory (he’s not familiar with how people survived and got by in the last great depression?), well it’s a bias towards what he perceives as normal. A “Greater Depression” is after all something that is not very common, or normal, so he blots it out and convinces himself it can’t happen here because he has no memory of it happening here. Yet, what is coming will truly be far worse than the last Great Depression (it was only a Great Depression here because of the laws that congress passed at that time – politics as usual). Your husband might also be so fearful of it happening that he goes in the other direction. Since you believe in the God of the Bible, pray and ask Him to help you do what you can in preparation, then be still and listen to what thoughts you get that may be helpful. Pray that God works His will on congress and all the government. If we can convince the Democrats and the Republicans that just increasing the budget every time they want to squander more is going to harm us all (including them – gated communities will be no protection for what is coming) we might have a chance of slowing this down, but I think the die is cast, because even if taxes were 100% for everybody – if all the rich, and all the
            middle class, and all the poor gave 100% of what they earned to the government – IT WOULD ONLY BE ENOUGH TO EQUAL WHAT THE CITY, COUNTY, STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN SPENDING. It is an impossible situation and congress is filled with about 450 people (out of 535) that are just like your husband. They cannot face the reality of what they are doing and causing so they just keep doing more. They need prayer too. If you do nothing to prepare, even if it’s just to have an extra large food supply of non-perishable foods on hand, then all your knowledge will be wasted. Pray and remember, just because you can’t do a lot is no excuse for doing nothing. One place I have purchased some freeze dried foods from is http://www.honeyvillegrain.com but they seem to be having shortages in some things as is every other company who provides such things. Apparently many are preparing. Don’t overpay but don’t put off beginning to do what you know you should be doing or you will regret it later. May God bless you and all who read this. Dum spiro spero!

          • mjmurphy

            Kodster5, please ditch that looser you are married to asap.
            take it from me they are all idiots who don’t last five minutes without all their ‘conviencies’ that they totally depend on.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Heeey Kodster5! (or should I call you “ant”)

            How long ya been saddled to that, ah, grasshopper? Sounds like one of those pages is gonna get ripped out.

            How in the world did you get, I guess today’s term is hooked up, with someone so short-sited?

            Has that 2 feet of snow in yer back yard disappeared yet? My baby sister lives near Denver and she said earlier this week they were getting lots of snow.

            Well, good luck and just keep doin’what yer doin’ and let the chips fall where they may, and I think most will fall on the grasshopper…

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            CurtisB:

            Are you old enough to remember Cracker Jacks?

          • Cliffystones

            kodster5,

            I just wanted to add to the other great advice. For all of the hoopla about buying gold and silver, buy freeze dried food, whole grains, beans, etc. instead. Also start storing water. I found a local source (near Denver) for food grade 55 gallon drums. But I have also been storing water in empty distilled water bottles (I use a CPAP) and Minute Maid OJ bottles (my 14yo boy drinks a gallon every week and a half!) I just clean the OJ bottles with bleach water, fill with tap water and a little splash of bleach. Very easy to find places to “stash” them. My 55 gallon drums are in the basement in an out of the way corner.

            For barter, consider buying ammunition (common calibers) and hard liquor in pint and half-pint bottles (unless it’s against your beliefs). Metals, especially silver, have skyrocketed lately. But ammo and booze haven’t went up in price nearly as much, and both have great shelf lives.

            As for “Hubby” my Ms. isn’t mush different. She’s not Liberal by any stretch of the imagination. Just not interested in “politics” and therefore out of the loop as to what’s going on. I’m gradually “educating” her by giving her the Readers Digest version of events. I also have bought a lot of freeze dried food from a company called “Shelf Reliance”. I let her know my feelings about the uncertainty of the future. Fortunately both her and I have parents who were raised during the Depression as well. I simply stated that I would rather spend some of my “mad money” and 401K cash on insurance of a different kind. If 20 years from now everything has turned out “peachy keen” then I will only have “wasted” a few grand on things that could very well mean the difference between life and death for us and our children. But most of the food (the biggest expense) will probably still be good. And my grandkids can use it when they take their kids camping :).

          • granny mae

            kodster5,
            I think most of us have been where you are only we went through this a lot sooner than you have. I went through it 20 years ago. Can you imagine trying to tell your husband that you should start getting a food supply for hard times when things seem just fine ? There was no threats to our livleyhood as there are today and my husband thought I was a living nut. I truly had instructions from the Lord to do exactly as we are all doing now, and my husband, although he was a believer in God, did not believe that I could be hearing from God. After all I was his wife not so religous nut that wore her beliefs on her sleave. I will tell you to do this. Pray and ask the Lord to show your husband the truth and open is eyes to reality and you go about your business of doing exactly what the Lord seems to be impressing on you to do. Just start and the Lord will make a way for you. I will never advise you to get a divorce. You don’t give up on your marriage over things that make the going tuff ! You work through these things. God never promised us a rose garden just a life worth the living ! You will get through this but it may take a while. If the hubby spends to freely then make a deal with him that for every dollar he spends you will spend the same amount on what you want. If he challenges you then follow through. It may not be long till he quits the free spending. Above all pray always and follow the Lords urgings. That is how he talks to us ! As for everyday when you go shopping buy two of several things. Rice , beans, canned goods and so on. Start now and don’t wait. Unlike a lot of people on here I don’t think we have that long to get prepared. Not that long at all. Especially for those that are already straped for cash and I know a lot of those people. Gas prices are hurting some people to the point that they are feeling as though they are being forced to give up their jobs because they can’t afford the gas to go to work. If you are working for minimum wage and you drive about 45 miles to work and then another 45 miles home from work, you come to realize that you are working only for gas money to go to work ! Gas here is over $4.00 a gal. Some people are having it real tuff, so don’t wait or put things off and try hard to work on your marriage. Some people refuse to face things because they don’t know what to do about them. It’s like being told the world is going to end in a week! What do you do? You just keep doing what you are doing and hope for the best. It is all you feel you can do. Your husband may be this kind of personality. He doesn’t know what to do so the only thing he does is pretend it isn’t so and just keep spending as usual and hope for the best ! God Bless! By the way, the Lord has brought my husband around to believing in some of the most unusual ways , He will do the same thing for you. Keep your chin up !

        • Al Sieber

          I’m with you Lastman, I’m working 24/7 out here in the Ariz. desert mining gold and silver and I’m not giving anything up to the Govt. they can come and try and take it, I’m mining lead also.

          • Al Sieber

            Lastman, don’t waste your time with people that have no clue, it’s fruitless.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Al:

            I am slowly coming to that conclusion.

            Stupid is forever….

          • Al Sieber

            Old Henry, sounds like nobody listens much to you either, and do they just change the subject on you when you tell them how corrupt the Govt. is? or change the subject and talk about how nice their new car is? I just tell them everything is okay, go back to sleep. most people can’t handle the truth, tend to ignore the obvious that our Govt. is corrupt and out of control, and we need to take back our country and get rid of these thieves, we are the people and we need to act soon.

        • Kate8

          Lastman – I was thinking, too, about how nothing will really change for those, say, like the Amish, when the grid goes down.

          But then I realized that they will be unarmed sitting ducks for the hungry, spoiled liberals who find themselves unprepared and without resources. I shudder to think of it.

          We’ve all become dependent on the system to one degree or another. Interesting times are ahead, for sure.

          • DaveH

            For those who would like to support the Amish in their fight against Big Government:
            http://healthfreedoms.org/2011/05/06/rally-for-food-and-farm-freedom-may-16th-protect-raw-milk-clubs/

          • Karolyn

            I already shared this story with my House Rep. (Just to show you I am reading your links, Dave.) :-)

          • granny mae

            Kate8,

            Don’t count out the Amish yet ! They are very well armed and know what to do if things get ruff. There are different factions of Amish and not all believe exactly the same as others. They will get by and maybe better than us ! Some now have generators for cooling foods and some drive cars , and some now have community phones ! They will get by.

          • independant thinker

            From what I have heard every congregation or community of Ammish and Mennonites is potentialy different for each one decides what is acceptable to it. The one close to me uses vihicles, phones, cell phones, power equipment etc. While following the basic style of clothing of other groups their clothing is more colorful than some. I lived in middle Tennessee foir a time and near the town I lived in there were at least three distinct groups. One was strict horse and buggy, one I would call modified horse and buggy because they did use gas powered farm equipment that was community owned, and one owned vehicles and had electricity.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Lastman:

          Doesn’t your softener have a bi-pass valve? You should be able to open that valve and still have unconditioned water.

          You are correct. The American people are the biggest bunch of spoiled brats in the history of the world.

          Goe is great. Beer is good. And people are crazy.

    • Jovianus

      Chip…sigh. Do some homework and verify things before reciting them as “gospel”. It is now verified several times over the ‘enhanced interrogation” techniques…in all reality TORTURE, did nothing in providing anything to lead to bin Laden. The only ones claiming that have been the past administration, and since they’ve made those claims it has been snuffed as far as being legitimate.

      Now…when he took office, if you will recall, Obama said ‘I will follow bin Laden to the caves he lives to get him if i have to”. much like bush proclaimed on 9/12. Guess what..instead of three months later stating bin Laden wasn’t a concrn (ala’ Bush0, and instead of placing 9/11 on the backburner ignored…Obama kept at it.

      In two years he nailed him. No torture used, adhered to US law and moral grounds..and got him. And once found…bin Laden was snuffed. DOA. Justice was done. And of course the SEALS were given the green light to snuff him and bring back a body. As they should have been.

      Cool, calm, patient, hard work and giving the platitudes where they are deserved. Not a good job…but a damn good job. Any attempt to give the prior administyration any credit whatsoever is lame. Lame. And shameful for any American to say otherwise.

      • Omawazzi

        I totally agree with you and could not have said it any better.
        Many of the people commenting on this site are blind to reality and only see what they wish to see.

        • http://yahoo richard

          i agree so why don’t you pull your head out of your a** and see the real world

        • Conservative at Birht

          So, why do you visit this site? You are the ostrich, not the many well informed who subscribe to this site. Although, I do not believe the supposed birth certificate is real, I do agree that there are greater issues to address. Obama is a Communist intent on destroying this country and our freedoms. If you cnnot see that, then you are blind not I.

          • Conservative at Birht

            By the way, I have had a birht certificate from the hospital with a seal and signatures of attending physician and witnesses with my foot prints for nearly 62 years. In Missouri, it was not sufficient proof to renew my Drivers Lisense, and I had to get a certification from the state of Colorado. Where is the Hospital birth certificate for Obama?

          • DaveH
          • Omawazzi

            I come on this site to see what you Radical Right Wing Extremists are raving about today.

          • Jovianus

            CB … to you everyone is a commie unless they adhere to your neanderthallic philosophy of every bought by gold and silver coin and we revert back 300 years away from any hint of modern economics.

          • JeffH

            Jovi-commie…yeah, you constantly rally the commies with your anti-American Alinsky dribble.

          • DaveH

            Omawazzi,
            We simply want to keep our own hard-earned money, and make our own choices.
            Liberals, like yourself, want to take our money to spend as you please, and make our choices for us. And you call us “extremists”? What a joke you Liberals are.

          • Carlucci

            The more I read the posts of jovi and those of his ilk, the more I am convinced that they are plants from Moveon.org and/or ACORN.

          • DaveH

            They are definitely feeding at the trough somehow, Carlucci. Why else would they make such fools of themselves?

          • Cliffystones

            Carlucci,

            “ACORN” should refer to the size of their brains.

        • Joe

          Talk about hypocrisy. You say others are not willing to listen to the truth and you blindly are doing exactly what you say they are doing. I am not willing to say nothing was gained by the interrogation methods used. Looking at what they were subjected to is mild compared to what some other country’s do. I am also not trying to justify one act by pointing to another act. I am willing to give the “commander in chief” the power to use these tactics if he deems we need to. Did we get information that led to Bin Laden, I am sure we did. Did it take us directly to him? No. But it was a starting point. I have listened to all the people involved from both sides and most all of their answers have been tainted by politics. They are giving the answer that supports their point of view. After listening to all sides of these double talking heads I feel the information given by the three who were water boarded did help lead to the courier’s nickname. From that point on it was a tidbit here and a tidbit there. It took time to put it all together and we successfully did just that.
          For you to give Obama all the credit, of which neither him or Bush deserve, is just petty from your political point of view. If you were to be fair, which after reading your statement, you cannot be, you would give the credit where it belongs to all (repeat all)of the people who worked putting all this information together. These are the people who deserve the credit.
          This was not a Democrat victory nor was it a Republican victory it was a United States Victory.

          • http://Personalliberty Tony

            Right on with your assessment!!

          • Cliffystones

            Right on Joe. It was all of those people who’s names flash by at the end of the movie that did all of the heavy lifting. Those who’s names we will never know, but which deserve our heartfelt thanks and congratulations for a job well done.

          • granny mae

            Joe,

            You got it right and I stand with you !

      • DaveH

        “no torture used”? Yeah, sure Jovianus, we believe you have the information to verify that.
        At any rate, only a Liberal can justify murder over water-boarding. Not just murder, but sneaking into a foreign country without approval to commit that murder.

        • DaveH

          Gee, I wonder what Bin Laden would have choosen — Death or Water-Boarding?

          • Christin

            Good come back DaveH.

            Sometimes I’m afraid to say ‘waterboarding’ was okay to use on the Ememy Isamlic Terrorists who did kill and wish to kill the American and Jew…

            because our own Communist government has already decided, written a pamplet, and called the Patriotic Conservative Americans and Veterans … Terrorists.

            What will the crowds of Anti-Americans and Ruling Elites do to us…

          • karolyn

            Right, Dave, we did Bin Laden a favor!

          • DaveH

            I don’t believe in torture. But then, I don’t believe we should be campaigning all over the world either. And I believe one of the greatest mistakes we ever made as citizens was to give Government a free pass to commit immoral acts that no ordinary citizen could get away with. They regularly help themselves to other peoples’ money (theft in my book), and they regularly kill people in other than self-defense (murder in my book).
            Personally I don’t believe in much of what Government says anymore. Our founders established Trials by Jury for that very reason. They were smart enough to know that Government fabricated facts to get their way. Always have, always will. My point? I wouldn’t even doubt that Bin Laden was manufactured by Government. Or even if he was real, I wouldn’t doubt that Government manufactured most of the accusations against him. I would have preferred that they bring him to trial, and prove their allegations. So much of their so-called proof is Classified. How convenient.
            That’s another of my beefs. Supposedly they work for us, yet they keep an extradinary amount of secrets, supposedly for “national security”. Right. More like for their own security. If they were concerned about our National Security, they sure wouldn’t go into a foreign ‘friendly nation’ with a covert mission of murder and expect those people to be happy with us. It’s much more likely that they are pissing off millions of people who someday will get their revenge on our country. I don’t call that making us more secure.

          • Al Sieber

            DaveH, Osama Bin Laden was a creation of the CIA, he worked for the USA in Afghanistan when they were fighting the Russians under the name Tim Osmand.

          • Sutekh

            The last time I had a crown prep done at the dentist, I got waterboarded. He was spraying water into the back of my mouth faster than the assistant could vacuum it out. But I got sent home alive.

            It is only those who sanction the cruel murder of babies in the womb who get upset about a murderer being tricked into thinking he is drowning. That contradictory opinion is the Satanic triumph of the irrational mind educated far beyond its level of intelligence.

            Sutekh

          • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/muslim-organization-criticizes-tea-party-speaker-choice-19901265/ chess game

            Bin laden would have said: “please let me go and you can have all my pornography treasures!”

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            DaveH:

            To hear Little Barry tell it he is the one who killed Osama. His speach was nothing but I, I, I, me, me, me…

            If those folks want to take revenge they should go after Little Barry.

            bin-Lyin killed bin-Laden.

        • Jovianus

          DaveH…

          1. We prosecuted and hanged people post WW II for waterboarding. You support torutre…that’s obvious. I, and the vast majority of Americans, think that’s a path we should not travel.

          2. As for snuffing bin Laden…he wasn’t cappe while in a jail cell. And if you state he should have been kept alive…please tell us what you would have done to jail him, try him, sentence him. This I want to hear…especially if you are so dead set against putting Gitmo prisoners on trial in a civilian court, against bringing them to a max secutrity prison here in the US, and especially since the number of hostage taking attacks would have skyrocketed in attempts to get bin Laden traded out.

          Frippin’ idiot.

          • karolyn

            Just like I heard McCain saying on the news that when you torture someone, they will tell you anything you want them to, but it’s not necessarily the truth. That’s how the cops get suspects to agree to crimes they haven’t committed. It may not be torture in every sense of the word, but it can come pretty cloe.

          • DaveH

            You ignoramus, Jovianus. Where did I say I supported torture? I simply said that given a choice I’m sure Bin Laden would rather take water-boarding.

            You see, folks, this is the hallmark of Liberal debate tactics, putting words in their mouths that they didn’t say.

            Of course, I expect that sort of thing from Jovianus, as he has no credibility on this board.

          • DaveH

            “putting words in their mouths” should have been “putting words in peoples’ mouths”

          • DaveH

            And the ignoramus Jovianus says “and especially since the number of hostage taking attacks would have skyrocketed in attempts to get bin Laden traded out”.
            Oh yeah, they’re happy with us now. They’re going to send us candy and flowers for being so nice as to sneak into Pakistan uninvited, shoot him and fly his body out to dump it in the ocean for shark bait.

            Jovianus, sometimes I wonder if you aren’t a brain tumor victim.

          • Thamera

            LOL love it DaveH :D

          • Cliffystones

            DaveH,

            I understand completely where you are coming from. The Feds kacked OBL, no big deal to them. But you or I shoot him or push him off of a cliff, and some government yahoo somewhere will want to bring US up on charges. And you or I (unlike Jovanius) would still probably be sick for weeks if we had shot the SOB and watched him die. Regardless of however much he deserved it we would still agonize over the taking of another human life. I saw what that agony did to my Dad and mt Father-in-Law (both WWII vets).

            It would seem that “Progressive Liberals” and “Islamic Extremists” have one thing in common. Moral Relativity.

            If someone hurt my children, or if a Terrorist tried to hijack the plane I was on, I would have no problem beating them to death to save the innocents. The difference between us and people like Jovanius is that they wouldn’t lose any sleep afterwards.

          • granny mae

            Mc Cain, is against torture. Yep ! But to say that it doesn’t produce good info is sadly mistaken. In his own words McCain said that they finally broke him too. I say use what you have to to get what you need. The enemy is not going to give you a second thought. He will torture you till you break and then he will kill you ! That is what they do now days, and they will do it right on television so you and the world can see your loved one die ! If you insist we should not stoop to their level then you are a jack ass !

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I have to agree with granny on this one. You have to treat your enemy according to who your enemy is. Now here we have an enemy, who would love nothing more that to put us all on live TV, and take a sword and cut our heads off, and celebrate about it. And in knowing this, if you think I wouldnt agree to waterboard them to get info, your nuts and wrong. And thankfully they did, and they got the info to take this mass murderer out. And we all know, if he had the technology he would have taken all of us out. The world is a better place with him gone, and I would do what it takes to find out all I could about him when searching for him. I have no problem with getting info, especially when your dealing with a people who have no qualms about strapping a bomb on their own back, or their 6 year old daughters back, and blowing up a bunch of innocent civilians. One must realize who we are dealing with, before crying foul on how we treated them.

        • Carol J

          And how many people did Bin Laden murder and have murdered???

          • Vicki

            Since we never brought him to trial we will never know. He did claim to have killed quite a few or at least have them killed.

      • Winnie

        Good job Jovianus. The thing with these commenters and the writer of this article is that they will never give credit where credit is due. America was attacked on Bushes watch and gave up on Bin Laden. President Obama captured the most wanted man in the world. Facts are facts, but these people will find everything the President has done, done wrong. God, what can President Obama do right?

        • independant thinker

          I seriously doubt Bush stopped looking for Bin Laden. I believe it is much more likely he made the statement as a matter of deception hoping to get bin laden to let down his guard just enough to make a mistake that would lead us to him.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Independant:

            I am not convinced that Bushy did not know hwere bin-Laden was while he was in the WH. I think maybe the PTB did not want him dead at that time. As long as they knew where he was they could monitor him and keep track of him. Once dead, he was dead. Alive he could be used for a tool as needed.

            When bin-Lyin’s poll numbers began tumbling like water over Niagra they needed something to give the Commie Kenyan a Cowboy Persona in the eyes of the brain-dead American elctorate.

            It was time for their tool bin-Laden to be killed. Or, at least for them to tell us bin-Laden was killed.

        • Robert D

          The president DID NOT capture anyone, our great military (namely Seal Team 6) planned for and caputered OBL. The CIA, the military and thier Generals, and maybe the FBI were responsible for information that lead to taking out OBL.

          Inpercentages the credit should go:
          5% POTUS (bush & Obama)
          40% interrogators
          55% Seal Team 6

          Quit giving credit where it in not due. The only thing Obama did was say ‘get him’ and that was done from behind a desk where there was no risk to his life and limb.

          • Winnie

            Just as 9/11 happened on Bush’s watch, the Capture and killing happened on Obama’s watch. I will be forever thankful to those brave military people who carried out the orders, but it would not have have been done without the President’s ok.

          • Vigilant

            Both Jovi Anus and Winnie the Pooh have very selective memories. Bin Laden was planning and executing the deaths of Americans years before 9/11. And on several occasions, Clinton had him in his sites and refused to do anything about it, due to the possibility of collateral damage. 9/11 could have been easily short-circuited if Clinton had done his job instead of acting like the usual bleeding heart pu$$ie.

            And the word from Drudge is that Valerie Jarrett, the real Obama handler, counseled him to avoid civilian collateral casualties in the same manner that Clinton had done. Seems that, to the liberal, saving your image in the Muslim world is more important than bringing to justice the worst mass murderer in some time.

            Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton and Defense Sec. Gates brought the house down around Osama, NOT the “deer in the headlights” so-called president. It was all done on short notice, and was done before Jarrett could get to Obama. I don’t care for Panetta, Gates or H. Clinton, but at least they had the cohones to do what Obama never would have done under the puppeteering hand of Valerie Jarrett.

          • Carlucci

            Winnie is a ninny.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            RobertD:

            If you listened to Little Barry’s speach you do not get that impression. It’s all I, I, I, me, me, me….

            “The man who shot Osama bin-Laden, he shot Osama bin-Laden. He was the bravest of them aaallll……

        • JeffH

          Winnie say pooh, pooh! “America was attacked on Bushes watch and gave up on Bin Laden. President Obama captured the most wanted man in the world. Facts are facts, but these people will find everything the President has done, done wrong. God, what can President Obama do right?”

          A couple of things you should know.
          1. ROFLMAO that you could even whisper, let alone say, that America and Bush “gave up” on Bin Laden. Drink some more liberal kool aid!
          2. Asking GOD to help the POTUS “do right”? Better to ask the devil himself, he more than likownswn’s O’mans soul.
          3. Neither the POTUS nor the Navy Seals “captured” Osama Bin Laden. He was shot to death(deservedly) when Obama approved/ordered Americans to violate Pakistan’s sovereignty and borders to kill Bin Laden.

          This peacenik of a POTUS, O’man, has turned out to be quite the opposite, again, of what he sold Americans his “bill of goods on”.
          He advocates “murder” over “capture” and is undeterred by violating worldwide protocol, Pakistan’s sovereign borders, and has turned out to be quite the “warmonger”.

          Those are the facts

          • granny mae

            JeffH,

            I think Obama has the personal idea that he is a dictator and can do as he wishes any where in the world, after all he is Obama ! His actions were the same as they were for us when he forced Obama care down our throats among other things ! He is the biggest danger to this country there ever was !

        • JeffH

          OOPS! correction

          “2. Asking GOD to help the POTUS “do right”? Better to ask the devil himself, he more than “”the O’mans soul.”

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Winnie:

          “what can President Obama do right”?

          Resign and move back to his Homeland.

          Okay, that’s two things. Maybe he can multi-task.

          • JeffH

            OH, LMAO!

          • Winnie

            oh henry, I hope you read my comment further down when I mentioned that your first president was not american born. You are all the ancestors of the first settlement so your motherland is not North America. Pooh to me. That’s what the kids that I work say but they say in a far different attitude. Way better than you.

          • JeffH

            Winnie the Pooh Pooh, where exactly was Washington born?

            George Washington was born on the Pope’s Creek Estate near present-day Colonial Beach in Westmoreland County, Virginia which was one of the 13 colonies in NORTH AMERICA! They were British colonies established on the Atlantic coast of North America. So… George Washington was born in America, specifically North America…foolio!

        • granny mae

          Winniie,

          What can this president do right? NOTHING ! I take that back, he could step down and that would be the only thing he did right !

          • granny mae

            Jeff,

            Good one ! I love it when there is a smarty in the crowd !

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Sorry, but I cant sit by and watch you lie. America was attacked on Bill Clintons watch. They blew up the WTC basement the first time. They blew up the USS Cole. They drug our dead on live TV through the streets of Somalia. Clinton did nothing, but grab another cigar. Clinton cut our intelligence agencies in half, allowing these guys to meander about the country unnoticed, and it was under his 8 years at the helm, that they set up their network and organized the events that transpired on 9-11. No, it wasnt on Bush’s watch, it was all on Clinton, you lying little liberal. Amazing how you spin the truth. And Obama didnt capture him, our military did, through information gained from interrogations of prisoners at Abu Gharaib, the same place that all you liberals wanted to close down and free all these guys. Heck, your boy Obama even used our money and bought some of them lawyers to defend them. Thank God Mr. Bush had a pair, and allowed the military to do their job and get the info we got out of them, which gave up the name and location of the courier, so we could follow him and find Bin Laden. Obama rode Bush’s coat tails to capturing this guy, so dont be so quick to give credit where it isnt due. Just as your boy Clinton rode Reagan’s coat tails to a good enonomy, before he blew it in 6 years time, Bush set in place the things that got us Bin Laden, whereas Obama didnt have to do nothing, except say ok get him since we now know where he is at, thanks to the efforts of the Bush administration. My my, how the left can prostitute the truth. Shame on you.

      • http://personalliberty.com Steven

        You are so full of sh/t….obamanation is only out to destroy this country….what is your excuse for why he will not place his hand over his heart for flag or national anthem….against christens and does everything underhanded and in the dead of night….why has he hidden all of his personel records……huh? I wish I could see your face when this all comes to a head….and it will!!!!

      • Dan az

        YO ANUS
        “The information that eventually led us to this compound was the direct result of enhanced interrogations; one can conclude if we had not used enhanced interrogations, we would not have come to yesterday’s action,” Sen. Richard Burr, R-S.C., said the day after bin Laden’s killing.

        Read more on Newsmax.com: Panel to Drill Panetta, Petraeus on Waterboarding
        Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama’s Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

        • Jovianus

          Who states waterboarding MSM eight years ago didn’t provide any leads to bin laden’s capture? How about Panetta, McCain, two of the interragators of the time at Gitmo. There’s a few right there.

          Panetta has now clarified his remarks since the intial ones were being twisted beyond actual intended content. John McCain i will say carries much more water than Burr..a Bush hack. And if you are stating that “confessions’ garnered via torture, made eight years ago, had any connection to the intial phases beagn two years ago which resulted in ridding the world of a tug and criminal…I’d say you should have your head examined.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Dude, what is the matter with you? Yes, information gathered from prisoners in Abu Gharaib, during the Bush admin, the same prison you lefties wanted to close and set these nice guys free, produced the information that led to the courier that led to Bin Laden. Good thing the Bush admin put in the proper work to get this intelligence, eh? I mean, if we would have had democrats in charge, we wouldnt have even jailed any of these guys, just re-located them and set the free to try to kill us again. That is, what liberals do. You lie, and you reject the truth. Once again, a democrat takes credit for the hard work of a Republican. Huh, kind of like life, with all the social handouts the democrats set up, where they take what we work hard for, and give to those who dont. Yeah, its kind of like that. I vote Republican, because not everyone can be on welfare and food stamps.

      • Greg

        Well said Jovianus –
        There are 20% of the population that are stupid enough to believe anything that fits there beliefs — the ‘H’ with facts.
        Hitting them over the head with a 2 by 4 only gets them yelling louder not smarter

        • DaveH

          This being said by a member of a group of people who are trying hard to foist their immoral and bankrupt ideas, that have failed repeatedly whenever fully implemented, on our once Free nation.
          For anybody who wants to investigate just how ignorant Greg’s and his fellow Liberals ideas are, just investigate the countries on this list and see where Big Government leads every time:
          http://heritage.org/index/ranking

          And Greg, who knows what the Facts are? We only have the word of Government officials who have lied to us repeatedly throughout the years. And we certainly aren’t foolish enough to think that thieving, controlling Liberals have any credibility.

        • Vicki

          Greg says:
          “There are 20% of the population that are stupid enough to believe anything that fits there beliefs — the ‘H’ with facts.
          Hitting them over the head with a 2 by 4 only gets them yelling louder not smarter”

          Probably true. As demonstrated by liberals on this board most every day. We provide facts and evidence and the liberals continue to deny anything that does not fit their statist beliefs.

          Liberals like Jovanus try and claim facts but never give evidence to support their claims. This is called proof by bald assertion and is quite easy to ignore during discussions.

          • Jovianus

            Love the current spin folks. I write, state fact..sometimes provide easy reference such as the US Consitution or a court citation. I paraphrase quotes. I refer to theories of such minor people as Thomas Hobbes and John Locke .. or use ahrd data such as economic figures.

            Yet…the BC is a fake and sourced via some wacked out looney tunes website.

            Uh huh … lol

          • DaveH

            I don’t know about the BC, Jovianus, but I do know you have no credibility on this board.

          • Mike in MI

            Jovial Anus = A laugh a minute lowhard…pffhh-h-uh-h-thst with a lump in it.

          • Mike in MI

            Jovial Anus = A laugh a minute blowhard..pfh-h-h-hut-t-hst-p (with a lump in it.)

      • Coolio

        How can it proved that EIT had nothing to do with finding BIN LADEN. Because one of your liberal pundits said so. Is that proof. I find it strange that anything negative is tied to the previous administration i.e. the economy but anything positive automatically is credited to this administration. Isn’t that convenient. “We’ve got to spend our way out of this recesion.” I wander which idiot said that. His idea of spending his way out is printing more money. Better start stocking up on survival supplies now because big time inflation is around the corner. We’ll talk again then if you survive on the Obama kool-aid.

        • Jovianus

          First .. let’s call it what it is..no sanitizing. Torture. As adjusged by the US in the ar crime trials of Post WWII and as adjusged by various international war crimes courts subsequent. OK?

          Now…prove torture gave us actionable intel. Go ahead. Then prove it was garnered faster and was more accurate than proven techniques which are widely seen as not torturous in nature.

          Jeesh …

          Now, here’s a test to think yourself through. How long under torture do you honestly believe you would last before “confessing” you raped and fondeled the kid next door ? Every single one of you would make that confession sooner or later. You can lie to us, but you won’t lie to your inner self (unless totally self delusional).

          (you don’t have to say anything… most of the right wing wacked folks here will lie anyhows)

          • Thamera

            Because it is clear where your sympathies lie Jovi, why don’t you tell us if it was your family (if you have one – children that is, a spouse…)what lengths would you go to to secure their release from the hands of a terrorist?

            (And your references to Hobbes and Locke, don’t make me laugh. They are in passing and without any subtext or content as well as your references to the constitution and court cases…which were severely questioned and criticized by Thomas Jefferson himself…you know a framer of the constitution one of our founding fathers….I know how that is confusing for you. btw: Being that you are so “highly enlightened” I am sure that you realize that Locke did not agree with Hobbes specifically in deference to an absolute and total government…

          • DaveH

            This is such classic Liberal Jovianus stuff:
            “Now…prove torture gave us actionable intel”.
            Only an ignorant Liberal would make such a statement. It’s classified. How could an ordinary person prove it one way or the other? Why don’t you Prove it didn’t, Jovianus?
            And Jovianus asks us “How long under torture do you honestly believe you would last before “confessing” you raped and fondeled the kid next door?”
            Just who are the class of people who regularly vote to help themselves (using government as they bully boys) to other peoples’ money. Just who uses Government to force their pet agendas on others? Liberals is who. So it would be a lot more likely that a Liberal would forgo morality and rape the kid next door than for a Conservative to do it.
            And I don’t have to conjecture about your veracity, Jovianus, as I have seen you lie many times in your comments. Don’t try to project your dishonesty on us.

          • Mike in MI

            By Jove J’anus -
            You want to talk about World War Two adjudication? Did you ever hear of the Geneva Accords? Believe it had something to do with handling of prisoners and combatants?
            Terrorists were not given any protections. Is it possible they were considered hideous, heinous, sub-humans – capable of anything and worth less than a liberal?

      • Doug

        Joanius everytime I come to this site and read your dribble I bust out laughing at what and anus you are. First off why are they showing show after show of how they got Osama? If you say something enought people will believe it at least stupid people. Obama has been dead for over 9 years. Who did they kill a body double if that since there is noway to confirm who it was! Do some research and the truth will be evident! Osama has been dead and used as the boggy man by our very own govt.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I thought he might have been killed a long time ago myself, but know, I think differently. I know Dan Coats in Indiana, and he is a truthful honorable man, and he got to see the photo’s, as a member of the senate intelligence committee. If he says its him, I believe it is him. Its not every, or even many politician I would believe, but I do this guy.

    • art

      So which birth certificate is real?? The one shown or thre offical birth certificate that is on file in Kenya ? Why would his grandmother lie or the King of Kenya or other people from his village ??? The one shown also indicates that the father race is African….just so that you know, AFRICAN is not a RACE !!!!! Said dead horse is alive and WELL…!!!!!

      • jibbs

        art says:

        So which birth certificate is real?? The one shown or thre offical birth certificate that is on file in Kenya ? Why would his grandmother lie or the King of Kenya or other people from his village ??? The one shown also indicates that the father race is African….just so that you know, AFRICAN is not a RACE !!!!! Said dead horse is alive and WELL…!!!!!
        **********************************************************************
        Now that makes three BC’s, labama has released two, plus the one on file in Kenya. Lets just match his foot print and be done. Even then, he can’t hold office. Most of the truth is in his own BC.

        • Jovianus

          Jibbs…there is no Kenyan BC. There is nothing but innuendos and vague statements which are falsely attributed to people. And you are so full of BS in believing this lie it’s beyond funny anymore.
          Do this..everything you cite saying he is not a US citizen..put under the same scrutiny you put his real BC under. Your ‘proof” wouldn’t make it two seconds before being trashed.

          Get over it.

          • libertytrain

            you are too funny —

          • combatvet

            There is one verifiable fact and that is your existence is an insult to humanity. That you utilize oxygen in order to spout your serial progressive blind to the facts drivel, is pathetic. We all know you are a butt buddy of Barry and to be honest, I didn’t serve my nation to have people like you lie in support of an obvious fraud who is defiling our White House and spending fiat dollars at a rate that makes Bush look like a hoarder.

            By the way, Barry didn’t make the call, he dawdled, hemmed and hawed as his barely existent spine was rapidly evaporating. His coven of evil forced his hand and made the call for him. He is not legitimate even without the birth certificate, which is a blatant fraud, due to the doctrine of divided loyalties. He has verifiable multiple citizenships and why Arnold, the former Governor of California, can’t run for CNC.

            Your hero is a plant with no verifiable history, who has taken the crown of liar in chief off the head of Clinton and has made medical history as the recipient of the first successful tele-prompter implantation surgery.

            You might want to produce, since you are Barry’s significant other, another birth certificate (a real one) that uses the term “AFRICAN” for race. My son in law was a Navy Seal and in speaking with him, the Seals are team members for life and they know what’s going on amongst their closed circle and Barry had nothing, absolutely nothing to do with the mission. It was a wag the dog save his ass job to distract people from the newly released and poorly executed fake BC. They’ve known where Laden was for two years.

            You know, you keep posting your serial drivel on this site and you actually get a couple of your fellow back biters to crawl out of their holes and agree with you, the brain dead do that but you are part of a infinitesimally small and mentally challenged kool aid drinking hate America clan. The great majority of Americans are patriots, you wouldn’t know what the word means. We don’t care about party, about color nor any of a myriad of labels thrown about…….what we do care about is America, the nation we love, the nation we defended. I find it interesting that you look the other way regarding the bevy of illegal action this racist moron you worship has pulled off in the dead of night with the help of his fellow American haters, Czars. I have had any issues with Presidents in the past unrelated to party. I’m an American first and foremost not a party hack. I criticized Bush for many things he did this guy, this amateur, this manchurian candidate has taken crime to a new level.

          • karolyn

            combatvet – You said “but you are part of a infinitesimally small and mentally challenged kool aid drinking hate America clan. The great majority of Americans are patriots,”

            I beg to differ, especially with the “infinitesimally small” part.” And we are just as American and patriotic as anyone else. Disagreeing with you doesd not make us unpatriotic. Me thinks you need to get your head out of the sand, because all you read and hear is conservative material; you don’t even know what’s going on with anyone else in this country.

          • JeffH

            Jovi-commie, “There is nothing but innuendos and vague statements which are false(ly)”

            Sound a lot like your Alinsky diatribe.

          • combatvet

            Karolyn,

            I refuse to get in a battle of wits with an unarmed person. If my head is in the sand, where the hell is yours? I propose firmly implanted in Barry’s butt. You are not a patriot if you for one minute can defend this totally ineligible fraud who you obviously voted for. I recommend you try not to tick off those of us who put our lives on the line so you can continue to exist in you lemming induced mentality.

            Why don’t you and the other serial fantasy land dwellers who by this drivel that this thing sitting in the White House has any cultural connection to America whatsoever, post on one of your hate America kool-aid sites and stop fouling this one with your spittle.

            Like it or not, patriots far outnumber you mind numb obots, just keep getting your information from the anti-American alphabet channels, it shows in your baseless remarks!

            Put your neck on the line for America and then maybe you will have earned the right to open your pie hole!

          • DaveH

            Who knows what the truth is? But I do know that we can’t take Jovianus’s word for it. And we know that we can’t take Obama’s word for it.
            Jovianus, you are a Liberal Zealot who will switch beliefs at the flip of a finger to whatever is needed to support your party. If Obama is against war, you will say you are against it. If Obama is for war, you will say you are for it. You are just a Zealot, Jovianus, and you have no credibility on this board.

          • Vigilant

            karolyn says, “Disagreeing with you does not make us unpatriotic.”

            Absolutely true.

            What DOES make you unpatriotic, and in my mind, unAmerican, is the studied disrespect for the Constitution, the Law of the Land, and the abysmal lack of education when it comes to US history.

            You, karolyn, have no right to call yourself “American” in the true sense of the word, after yesterday calling yourself “a citizen of the world.” As I said yesterday, you go find that “world community” you so obviously long for, and you go there.

          • Karolyn

            Vigilant – That place is right here or anywhere any one of us chooses to be! Have a good night. I know I am! :-)

          • Cliffystones

            combatvet,

            If you were a tall, brown-eyed, brunette woman in her mid-40s I’d propose :)

            Seriously though, your sentiments mirror mine. I didn’t care much for “W” either. And I would still have had some respect for Slick Willie if he had answered questions about his love life with “None of your damn business”. I didn’t vote for Clinton, but he did do a a fine job getting the freeways in So. Cal. fixed up after the Northridge quake. Bush had me P.O.ed before 9/11 because of his “could give a damn less’ attitude about the electric power brownouts in California. Sure there are a lot of “flakes” out west, but there were some of us who deserver a little respect.

            But the Libs who post on this site don’t think. They simply regurgitate talking points.

          • Vicki

            The supposed long form Birth Certificate released in April has all the data we need to remove Obama from office and nullify all his actions. To be a natural born citizen (that silly little element of the law in the Constitution) requires that BOTH parents be US Citizens. The BC clearly shows that Obama’s father is NOT. So Obama can be a US Citizen but can NOT be a natural born US Citizen. Since he is not a natural born citizen he can not be President.

            Just the facts. So why is Obama still in office? He is still there because there are so many opinions, including legal ones, about what “natural born” means.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born_citizen_clause_of_the_U.S._Constitution

            Now a logical observation of what the founders were intending with the requirement is that the President have no allegiance to any other country and that the President shall have been raised up in the culture that is America. Clearly Obama does not pass that test. He was born into dual citizenship. He was raised for a significant time in a foreign country. His books and actions show that he was not raised in the culture of freedom and liberty that is uniquely America.

          • Vigilant

            Karolyn syas, “Have a good night. I know I am!”

            You are what? A good night?

            I wouldn’t know….

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Combatvet:

            To quote Jed Clampet: “Whooo Doggies”…

            That was quite a dissertation sir.

            Also, an iteresting comment from / about the S.E.A.L.s. Little Barry sure is something. It would be sooo interesting to hear what the Founders would have to say. I’m guessing that Andrew Jackson would just drag his sorry ass out of the WH and hang him on the font lawn.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Im just always led back to the speech Michelle Obama was making, that I saw with my own eyes and heard with my own ears, and she referred to Kenyan as “Barack’s hometown”. Please tell me how this can be? I would really like to know, how can this be? How could she say this if it wasnt true? Please Jovi-Anus, explain away, with your best spin. How can this be, or not be? Id really like to know.

        • Greg

          Hey Jibbsey — Where do you come up with this garbage ?
          Are you careful to prevent facts from getting in the way of your rants ?

      • gataheart

        Right on, Art. And the LIAR has dug his own hole to go bury himself in. Either BC. One’s the same as the other. The BIG ‘o’ IS NOT CONSTITUTIONALLY “ELIGIBLE” ..being his father(S) were not ‘Citizens of the USA. Every and any thing else is now MOOT!

    • wandamurline

      Even if it is a true copy, which I doubt, it still wouldnot make him eligible by the Constitution to be president because his father was from Africa and a British citizen and his mother would have to have been 21 years of age. Yes, he can be a citizen of the US, but that does not make him a “natural born” citizen…they are different. But, who cares…even if Obama were to stand before the world and present his Kenyan birth certificate, there is absolutely no one in power who would do anything about it. The Congress, Senate, CIA and Supreme Court all know he is ineligible, but don’t count on anyone to do anything to make it right. If they were working on duplicating a birth certificate, they have had 3 years to do so, and I believe that they did a really poor job…it is a fake, but like I said it doesn’t matter…it is a distraction to keep us from focussing on what he is doing at the present.

      • jibbs

        U.S. citizens have the power, for the people, by the people. It’s all in the Constituion. He would have to be taken to Levenworth, tried, convicted, and hanged according to the law.(High Crimes and Treason) and anything he put into law will be null & void. I don’t know why so many citizens have a problems with our laws. I ‘ll bet the one’s that bitch and defend him, would want the law followed if they were on trial, (screaming and kicking all the way) Prove me wrong with the TRUTH!!

      • Jovianus

        Wanda please. You are so wrong it can’t be error. Get over it. Quit yer lyin’ … President Obama is a US citizen UNTIL anyone can Prove HE ISN’T. And any ‘proof” you see or have, it wouldn’t last one second under any scrutiny…

        Jeesh

        • BrotherPatriot

          Jovianus has no credibility on this board.

          I second (more than second) that.

          God Bless.

    • DaveH

      “beating a dead horse”? ROFLMAO! That coming from Smilee, who like the typical Liberal will be blaming Bush for our current bad economy for years to come.

      • Eddie47d

        ….and you are a typical Libertarian (sadly) who blames Obama for everything since the turn of the last century. You constantly egg on this dog and pony show and there are a few of us who like to bite you back. You reap what you sow pal. You should be happy today Dave since Ron Paul threw his hat in the ring. Time to rally your troops behind his positive message instead of all your condescending negativity.

        • Winnie

          Thanks Eddie47d for your comment.

        • JeffH

          47Stupid says, “….and you are a typical Libertarian (sadly)”. This from the idiot who thought he was more of a “Libertarian” with “liberal leanings. I guess his new attacks will be against Libertarians now that they’ve become 47Stupid’s newest nemisis. You are one obvious hypocrite full of contradictions.

          You just can’t fix stupid!

        • Dan az

          Yes eddie it must be a very sad day for all of you libs out there.Go put your feet up and drink a cool glass of kool aid it might be your last.

        • DaveH

          You Lie, Eddie! As usual. What else can we expect from Eddie?
          He says “and you are a typical Libertarian (sadly) who blames Obama for everything since the turn of the last century”.
          Show me where, Eddie, that I have blamed Obama for everything since the turn of the last century?

          For those who don’t know, putting words in other peoples’ mouths is a common occurance with the Union Thug Eddie.

          • Jovianus

            Actually DaveH, I have to agree that Eddie was in error…instead of “since the turn of the last century”, it would have been accurate to state ‘since the dawn of Mankind”

          • JeffH

            Jovi-commie agreeing with 47Stupid on anything is a risk at best and a clear sign of a total lack of credibility and morals. OOPS! That is already known.

          • DaveH

            Jovianus is going all out to destroy whatever hint of credibility he ever had on this board.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Why are the Libertarian’s now stupid in your eyes eddie? Why is it that everyone who isnt a left wing liberal like you, is stupid? Im not a Libertarian, at least not yet, but I cant attack them like you do and call them stupid. I think they have a lot of great beliefs in their party. And on making America strong and having a good basis, they stand head and shoulders above the Democrats, without a doubt. But it is so predictable, that anyone different that you, is stupid and wrong. I would offer this to you, and that is, look in the mirror, and you will see the source of 90 percent of your problems. Start with that guy, and things get better quickly.

    • Void1972

      First of all, the birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in “Kenya, East Africa”. This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth.How could have Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate”. But, this is not the only thing that I found that just does not jive. The other item that I looked into was the hospital that Obama was born in.On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978? Go ahead, look it up. I am not talking crazy talk, these are the facts.Like I said, I thought that this was a non-issue until the actual certificate was released. Now that it has been released, of course I had to look into it. I have found these issues, now I know that something is up. If you doubt me, just look at the following resources: Sure as hell, the hospital part is true, as you can read about the 1978 merger here. The discussion about the East Africa Protectorate is less decisive, however. Still, Keyna didn’t gain independence until 1963, be preceded in independence by Tanganyika which became Tanzania, Uganda, and then Kenya.

      • Jovianus

        “The other item that I looked into was the hospital that Obama was born in.On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively”

        You lie. And it is an outright lie. Two tiems…one is the official history of the hospital placed in print and showing it was named and existed since the 1920′s. Add to that there is a Court of Appeals (Federal) dating from the 20′s which lists the hospital BY NAME as a defendent. I posted both a week or so ago … frippin’ liar.

        Lies…that’s what you have folks…you are relying on lies which are so easily shown to be lies, it casts doubt upon your honesty, integrity, and intelligence.

        Ya proud?

        • Jovianus

          This court thought the hospital existed

          70 F.2d 793 (1934)
          KAPIOLANI MATERNITY AND GYNECOLOGICAL HOSPITAL
          v.
          WODEHOUSE et al.
          No. 7026.
          Circuit Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit.

          April 10, 1934.
          794*794 E. C. Peters, of Honolulu, T. H., and Orrin K. McMurray, of Berkeley, Cal., for appellant.

          A. G. M. Robertson, A. L. Castle, A. Withington, and J. G. Anthony, all of Honolulu, T. H., for appellees.

          Before WILBUR, SAWTELLE, and MACK, Circuit Judges.

          WILBUR, Circuit Judge.

          This is an appeal taken from the decision of the Supreme Court of the territory of Hawaii rendered upon an agreed case submitted to that court in pursuance of sections 2371 to 2374, inclusive, of Revised Laws of Hawaii 1925. The parties to the agreement are the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital and Ernest H. Wodehouse and James L. P. Robinson, executors of the will of Mary E. Foster, deceased. The facts agreed upon by the parties may be briefly summarized as follows:

          The Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, which will be hereinafter referred to as the “Maternity Hospital”

          • Robert D

            Now disprove her other point!

            Since you seem so heel bent on calling everyone a liar today.

          • Thamera

            Jovi calls anyone he doesn’t agree with a liar..it’s his hallmark on these forums haha…

          • Jovianus

            Actually Thamera..once again you’re falling by the wayside. I haven’t used that word as much since I’ve posted here than i have the past week since you’ve been trying to keep up.

            Now…as to the other allegation. The one I would suppose which stated the East Kenyan Protectorate poor reasoning?

            You can go to several websites which list British documents of the time referring to Kenya as the British East Africa Protectorate AND as Kenya AND as Kenya East Africa.

            Kenya was in the midst of the era where it became a seperate indepednet nation under the British Commonwealth, and internal government documents refers to itself as such. Bristish documents of the time used both depending. You’ll not have to look for long to find this excuse is a non starter.

          • Thamera

            keep trying Jovi LOL…and maybe on of these days you’ll get around to answering a question that requires some critical thinking on your part, if you even know what that means and again Jovi, why don’t you tell everyone what it is that YOU do?????

          • Doug

            Gee Anus you can speak a little truth! I was born in Kapoiolani Hospital 3 years before Obozo says he was, so for once Anus says something true. But Anus the BC from Kenya is the original and where he was born. And by the way when you look at my BC the Capital letters are not in line they are raised depending on how far you push down the shift key. If you look as Obozo’s they are all on a nice line sorry that can’t be so!

        • Cliffystones

          Hey Jovanus!

          I couldn’t believe it myself, so I did some checking on the British Protectorate thing. It was spot on!

          So face reality, or go somewhere where they all had the brown acid,

      • karolyn

        And – If the father told them he was born in Kenya, wouldn’t that be what they would write in? Do you really think the registrar would become a researcher and check into the name of the country?

    • Mr Bond

      The birth certicicate is a fraud and only the brain dead sheep can believe otherwise. A lie must be proped up by more lies and that will be the reason for the collapse of Hussein’s hopuse of cards!!

    • Bud Tugly

      Obama’s mother was an American, he’s an American, it doesn’t matter where he was born or what country his father was from. Enough already. Move on to something important. Harping on this issue just makes the “Birthers” look foolish.

      • Greg

        Bob –
        I sometimes want these fools to keep this birther issue going right up to the 2012 election; can’t you imagine the great Donald Trump in a debate with Obama on the validity of a birth certificate ?
        The birhers don’t use facts and never will; they rely on repetitioius shouting of stuff that they Want to believe — there doesn’t have to be anything factual about the shoutings — in fact, it tends to confust them

    • da norseman

      In other words, Smilee, the lib news media is hiding the truth and neither you nor your libturd comrades don’t even want to know or don’t want anyone else to know. The question is, how do you know it’s authentic?

    • EddieW

      Smilee yer kind of right, though I don’t think that particular Birth Certificate came from Hawaii!! it’s such a blatant forgery, and so poorly done, he must have had amatures do it…eventually he will come out with the real one, unles it’s true that he was born in Kenya…but if in Hawaii, that will leave the birthers empty handed, and their issue gone!! Then what will they have? NOTHING!!!

    • Wim Vonk

      Dead on. It is pathetic to see how many Americans do nothing else but try to discredit Obama. Are you becoming a nation of Right Wing fundemental loonies. Not much better than those Islamic fools in the Middle East.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        It just seems that way, because the guy hasnt done anything to credit himself or his party yet. He has destroyed the economy, and is losing jobs by the thousands even as we speak. His solution is to keep printing money, as he doesnt realize the problem down the road this causes. He has no clue, and still, no plan. He lied when he told all you blind liberal followers he was getting us out of the war, and instead has escalated it, and then gone and illegally started another one, without even getting congressional approval. How are we going to pay for that, when all the liberals cried about was we couldnt pay for the current war, which he has escalated. He has expanded welfare, food stamps and all kinds of social give aways, just throwing our money away, and now he wants to spend more, and inspite of trying to fight 3 wars, he wants to cut the military. Are you kidding me? What happened when Clinton cut the military and intelligence? What happened Wim? Yeah, 9-11 happened, as a DIRECT RESULT OF DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP. Dont spin it, its the truth. Thank God 2012 is around the corner where we can dump this no do loser, and try someone else. Notice I said try, because there is no clear cut “Winner” in sight that I can see, I just hope him or her is out there, as anything is better than what we have now. No doubt about it.

        • BrotherPatriot

          Oh…he has a plan.

    • Wim Vonk

      Smilee you are right most of the time. Don’t let the crzie fundementalists get you

    • American Taxpayer
      • Linda Cordle

        Check out this U-Tube on how they created the fixes on Obama’s phony long form birth certificate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLW5yAxBwDg&feature=email

        This graphic designer is telling you how to download the certificate from the Whitehouse website and how to see the “fixes” yourself. I have Illustrator so I followed this and sure enough I could do all of the same things as he did – turn off and on different pieces of Obama’s birth cert. If you don’t believe it get a graphics designer who uses Adobe Illustrator to show you. This guy has about 4 more U-tubes that explain more.

    • Myrna

      A certificate of live birth is not acceptable for getting a passport, why should it be acceptable as proof for obama?
      When I went to the passport office with one, they told me I needed a certified BIRTH CERTIFICATE from the state I was born in.

    • http://none Roger Lindsey

      Obama’s Birth Certificate

      I will tell you right now that I had never given this “birther” issue any credit. I watched the hype and the crazies come out. I completely dismissed the entire ordeal altogether. In fact, it was not until the White House released the birth certificate that it had gained my attention.
      Another issue NOT addressed here is that Obama’s father was a British citizen, not American. By British law any person born of a British citizen is BRITISH! The best that Obama could be is “naturalized” if he ever bothered to go through the process. What about all the name changes (aliases) and dead man’s SSN?

      I am the studious sort of guy, and I have plenty of time on my hands. So, I took a close look at this document. While I would have thought that this issue would have been closed for good (and, got the crazies to crawl back into their holes), I found two extremely strange inconsistencies that merit some attention.

      First of all, the birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in ” Kenya , East Africa “. This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could have Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the “British East Africa Protectorate”. But, this is not the only thing that I found that just does not jive.

      The other item that I looked into was the hospital that Obama was born in. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?

      Another issue NOT addressed here is that Obama’s father was a British citizen, not American. By British law any person born of a British citizen is BRITISH! The best that Obama could be is “naturalized” if he ever bothered to go through the process. What about all the name changes (aliases) and dead man’s SSN?

      Go ahead, look it up. I am not talking crazy talk, these are the facts. Like I said, I thought that this was a non-issue until the actual certificate was released. Now that it has been released, of course I had to look into it. I have found these issues, now I know that something is up. If you doubt me, just look at the following resources:

      Sure as hell, the hospital part is true, as you can read about the 1978 merger here .http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/about-us/default.aspx

      • BrotherPatriot

        *A light buld has gone on.*

        A brother awakens…sometimes even an American.

        Nice post.

        Interesting link…

        God Bless.

    • another lie

      you’re deceitful .. or dumber than dumb

      that Obam and Hawaiian governor has come up with a frabicate FAKE birth ‘certificate’ … CRIMINAL intend !

      just look at it … u are not that stupid r u?? for instance, the reference of ‘african’ (heritage) is not made back then …

      people dont allow yourself be even more dumb downward

      they are all ‘criminals’ against the american people …(and that includes the Feds taking value out of our pockets by ‘printing’ money with out end. …

  • Joe M. Royal Palm Beach, FL.

    Now we know for sure that BHO has dual – citizenship, making him INELIGIBLE for the Presidency according to our Constitution.
    Now we just need Congress to act with integrity. I pray for TRUTH & JUSTICE to prevail!!!

    • http://personallibertydigest Michael bell

      With all of the problems we have in this country,there are those who i cal racistand those are all of the nuts who STILL claim that our Black President isn`t really our president.There is nothing short of a video actually being shot of his live birth in hawaii but they will never accept him,but like it or not HE IS YOUR PRESIDENT AND HE IS HALF BLACK,as the leader of the free world said,quote We don`t have time for this foolishment,we have problems to solve.my president(and yours)and has compleated many of the promises and if not for the fillibuster children in the house much of our problems could have been solved by now,so shut up and support our president or get the hell outta the way and let someone with real smarts solve the united states problems.

      • Owen King

        1/2 black? Guess again, His father was not even 1/2 black, check the record.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Miguel

        The color of barry soetoro’s skin IS NOT an issue. The danger that this Manchurian president represents IS.
        He has not proved anything conclusively about his past. This last ‘certificate of live birth’ is an obvious fraud. His parents marriage and divorce records, his adoption record, his Occidental college records, his passport records, etc. etc., are NOT available for public inspection. The FEC is investigating his 2008 cmpaign funds, I suspect that he was elected by a lot of money funneled by the dangerous eminence grise, George Soros and a lot of Saudi money (explaining hussein obama’s bow before the saudi ‘king’). His handling of the economy has been atrocious, with arbitrary bailouts of wall street friends, with trillions of dollars unaccounted for and with an unemployment rate that keeps climbing… . When will the US electorate wake up to the fact that this inept clown is a danger to the Free World!!

        • RicSeag

          God, it must just be he’ll trying to keep all those demons straight in you crazy little head! How sad it must be to be so tormented by straw men and goblins in the totters depths of your clearly demented brain.

          Well, there’s another blessing in my column…I’m not nuts like you!

      • Demoncrat Exorcist

        Nothing will change the fact that Barry was born a British subject no matter where he was born because that was his birthright and the law when he was born. There’s no way that Barry meets the requirement for POTUS. He is not a natural born American citizen. His citizenship is further complicated by the fact that Barry also held Indonesian citizenship. We have an ineligible, (illegal) dictator occupying the white house. http://www.petition2congress.com/2/2349/petition-to-remove-barack-obama-as-president-united-states-americ/

        • Vigilant

          You might want to read the Constitution, especially the 14th Amendment. Obama was, by virtue of his birth in Hawaii, automatically a “natural born” citizen. Indonesian citizenship, whenever held, disqualifies no one from Constitutional qualifications for president.

          Three of my five children were born overseas, and their mother was a non-US citizen. I have State Department certificates reporting the birth abroad of a US citizen. My children are eligible to be president.

          • ValDM

            Vigilant,
            I rarely disagree with you, but this time you’re in the wrong. Barry was adopted by an Indonesian man, therefore nullifying any previous BC. My neighbors across the street adopted 2 children from eastern European countries. Their BC’s in those countries were nullified & new AMERICAN BC’s issued when the adoption was finalized. I don’t care if the O’boy was hatched from an egg, he still isn’t an American citizen………he’s Indonesian.

          • The Munz

            Actually the 14th amendment has nothing to do with natural born citizenship. It was about making blacks citizens. Not NATURAL born ones. John Bingham is recognized as the author of the 14th Amendment.
            John Bingham stated in the House of Representatives in 1862:
            Who are natural-born citizens but those born in the Republic? […] [P]ersons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens. Gentleman can find no exception to this statement touching natural-born citizens except what is said in the Constitution relating to Indians.
            He reiterated his statement in 1866:
            Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.

            By the recognized author of the 14th amendment that you believe makes Obama a natural born citizen, the 14 does not, Obama is not.

          • Suncoast

            Vigilant, you must have the latest revision to the 14th amendment. My copy says and I quote ” All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” NOWHERE in the 14th amendment does it say “Natural Born”. The Constitution quotes the ‘Laws of Nations’, a book by DeVattel that was widely read and followed by the Founders. This is the definition that the Founders used when outlining the requirements for the President. (Records show that George Washington actually checked this book out of the Philadelphia library when they were writing the Constitution.) You need to find this book and read the definition of Natural Born. I could quote it here, but then your information would be hear-say and not first hand on your part. Study, learn and live history.

          • bohemian

            The 14th amendment: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” This amendment was ratified in 1868 to address the newly-freed slaves. It has absolutely nothing to do with the ‘natural born citizen’ requirement for President. ‘Naturalized’ is not ‘natural born.’
            A natural born citizen = born on U.S. soil, of 2 parents who are U.S. citizens. Your children are not eligible to be President of the United States.

          • Suncoast

            Munz, you are mostly correct in your statement and correct in your quotes. The book ‘Laws of Nations’ (Capitalized in the Constitution) defines a natural born Citizen as one who was born in the country of parents who were citizens of that country. The Constitution in Article 2 covered this requirement by adding the qualifier that a person must be a natural born Citizen, “or a Citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution” [emphasis mine]. This allowed the people who were born of parents who were not American citizens to serve during the nation’s formative years. This also assured that this exception would only last one generation. According to the latest Birth Cert., Zero does not qualify. It has nothing to do with Hawaii. It has to do with the citizenship of his parents, per The Laws of Nations.

          • Vietnam Vet.

            you might want to read all of the 14th amendment especially interpitation 132 which says that the the american parent must have lived in the U.S. for 5 years past their 16th birthday (21 years of age)in order to pass citizenship to their child.

          • Vigilant

            For Bohemian and others here, you may want to refer to the following from Wikipedia: “A memorandum to Congress dated April 3, 2009, written by the Congressional Research Service, states:

            Considering the history of the constitutional qualifications provision, the common use and meaning of the phrase “natural-born subject” in England and in the Colonies in the 1700s, the clause’s apparent intent, the subsequent action of the first Congress in enacting the Naturalization Act of 1790 (expressly defining the term “natural born citizen” to include a person born abroad to parents who are United States citizens), as well as subsequent Supreme Court dicta, it appears that the most logical inferences would indicate that the phrase “natural born Citizen” would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship “at birth” or “by birth”.”

            My overseas-born children are (and were) entitled to the status of “natural born citizens” by those SCOTUS dicta.

          • Vigilant

            ValDM:

            Please refer to Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939): The U.S. Supreme Court concluded that Marie Elizabeth Elg, who was born in the United States of Swedish parents naturalized in the United States, had not lost her birthright U.S. citizenship because of her removal during minority to Sweden and was entitled to all the rights and privileges of that U.S. citizenship.

          • http://yahoo richard

            only if they were born in a military hospital

          • Vigilant

            richard,

            According to Wikipedia, “U.S. State Department policy, as codified in the department’s Foreign Affairs Manual, reads: Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth.”

            I’ll admit that it’s all sufficiently confusing to raise doubts in my mind about my own children’s qualifications. Case law never ruled out John McCain’s eligibility (born in the Canal Zone), but remains sufficiently undetermined. It may be best to just go on from here and claim that none of us knows for sure. The SCOTUS doesn’t seem disposed to accepting the birthright cases, so we may never know..

            I officially back off my claim, given the uncertainty of Constitutionality and subsequent legislative and judicial findings. It would be nice if the Constitutional “scholars” on this site would do the same.

          • DaveH

            The Birth issue is just a distraction. Obama is subverting the Constitution regularly, yet Congress ignores it and even promotes it. Yes, Obama is not the first to do that, but maybe if the citizens get some real education we can make him the last.
            Our real problem is the large portion of the population who have been dumbed down in the Propaganda Schools, and those who have been bought and paid for by the politicians (on both sides of the aisle). We need to fight hard, to educate those who aren’t educated, about their inevitable serfdom or impoverishment at the hands of self-interested Big Government Politicians. It doesn’t matter if they are Democrats or Republicans, they are feathering their own nests at our expense and we need to stop it.
            People need to learn the wisdom displayed by our Founders who knew firsthand what it was like to live under the thumb of a despot:
            http://constitutingamerica.org/

          • Vigilant

            Good post, Dave. And I’ve bookmarked the site, looks like a good one.

        • Winnie

          For God’s Sake, your first president was British born. Argue with me about that.

          • JeffH

            …in relation, when was the “Constitution ratified ” in relation to the first president’s tenure?
            Proposed 6/13/1866
            Ratified 7/9/1868

            Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
            •Anyone born inside the United States *
            •Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
            •Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
            •Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
            •Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
            •Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
            •Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
            •A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

            * There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

          • Vigilant

            Winnie says, “For God’s Sake, your first president was British born. Argue with me about that.”

            Who are you talking about? Certainly not George Washington.

          • Carlucci

            Like I said before, Winnie is a ninny.

            Winnie – FYI – George Washington was born in Virginia.

          • libertytrain

            Carlucci – sure but was it a State when he was born!!! Just kidding. :)

          • Winnie

            Carlucci, I don’t care if he was born in Seattle Washington, North America was not his motherland neither is it yours.

          • JeffH

            Winnie the Pooh Pooh, by your way of thinking, Obama is Kenyan because Kenya is his motherland. What have you been drinking?

      • bohemian

        We don’t know if he is half-black, half-white, or half-Martian, because we don’t know who his mommy and daddy are. Based on his history of lying every time he opens his mouth, you can bet they are NOT who he says they are. He doesn’t look like he has any white blood at all. No wonder he doesn’t want to show his real birth certificate.
        He may be your president – I hope you’re proud – but he’s not mine. My President would be American.

        • Winnie

          American and white? Every single president has ancestors born out of North America. The only natural born peoples are North American Natives. So quit claiming North America as your land. You are of the immigrant born.

          • JeffH

            Winnie says pooh pooh again…”The only natural born peoples are North American Natives.”

            Are you related to 47Stupid?

            Both of my parents were “natural born” Americans as am I and the rest of my family.

          • Vigilant

            Winnie reminds me of that Indian maiden in the old Mazola commercial some decades ago who sneeringly said, “maize, what YOU call ‘corn’.” I suspect Mazola lost more customers than they gained from that activist tripe.

            No, Winnie, the American Indian came from someplace outside of North America, just like everyone else. They are of the immigrant born. Stow your bleeding heart activism and get an education.

          • Winnie

            Your so called experts have absolutely no proof that the Native American migrated to North America. In the American Natives beliefs there are four races – Europions, Asians, Africans and Americans. You, Vigilant, are no american.

          • JeffH

            Winnie the Pooh Pooh is nuts.

        • Void1972

          bohemian
          Did you ever see the movie “The Omen”?
          Substitute little Barry for Damian and what do we have?
          Like the Obamanation said himself, “ the acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree”.

          • bohemian

            Bingo! I hadn’t thought of that. BTW – I like the way you slipped in ‘acorn’ …

      • Vigilant

        When Michael Bell gratuitously plays the race card, which has no effect whatsoever in shutting down discourse, I throw his words back at him: “We don`t have time for this foolishment..”

      • vagabond

        michael. why dont you just shut the hell up and let grown ups do the talking,

      • Tammy

        Why didn’t the demon-rats do the adult thing and balance the budget when they had total control of the entire system? Your mindless dribble of blaming the children in the house today is false. Filibuster BS. I do NOT believe any of the talk from the empty suits in Washington D.C. because they are NOT the ones really running the country. All of them are paid off puppets of the shadow government (T.C., CFR & the U.N.) We are constantly being LIED to just like Osama Bin Laden being killed on May 1st, which pulled Obamadinejad’s arse out of the polling hole his failed policies put him in. When is he going to quit playing the blame Bush game and own up to his failures? We as a nation are truly heading down the road to serfdom & the blind, mindless blame game is helping USA to be destroyed at warp speed. A quote Zbigniew Brzenzinski’s book “Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technotronic Era”, A ZERO GROWTH SOCIETY: In a post industrial period, zero growth will be NECESSARY to destroy vestiges of general prosperity. Where there is is prosperity, there is progress. Prosperity & progress make it IMPOSSIBLE to implement repression, and you need repression if you hope to divide society into owners & slaves. A STATE OF PERPETUAL IMBALANCE: by artificially manufacturing crisis that will put people under continual duress – physically, mentally & emotionally it is possible to keep people in a perpetual state of imbalance. Too tired & strung out to decide their own destinies, populations will be confused & demoralized to the extent that, faced with too many choices, apathy on a massive scale will result. This is exactly what we Americans are dealing with on a daily basis.

        • RicSeag

          Well the last balanced budget was signed by Clinton…. Pelosi, in 2006, tried to pass paygo, but it was fillibustered by Senate Republicans. When Repubs had full throttle – 2001 – 2006, they took a near record surplus and turned it into 4 consecutive record deficits….

          These stubborn facts simply cannot be refuted, so let the screeding begin.

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            RicSeag…Then explain why they didn’t balance the budget while they had control of Congress? They waited until the newly elected officials came in and then decided to balance the budget. You cannot deny that they are responsible for not having this completed by now.

          • ValDM

            The “fact” you allude to about Clinton’s “balanced budget” is a hoax. Clinton had no surplus……..just unspent money that he referred to as “surplus”. YOU get your facts straight.

          • Aix Sponsa

            Look up David Walker, Comptroller General of the General Accounting Office (GAO), and view his self financed speeches on you-tube. He spoke for years saying that the US is bankrupt and Clinton did not balance the budget but manipulated the books. Check it out. I dare youze.

          • DaveH

            Oh, please. Congress can always find ways around any budget constraints.
            Just as they did this one:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_Pay-As-You-Go_Act_of_2010

          • DaveH

            All of us who care should write our Congressmen and tell them to Please not raise the Debt Ceiling, and to Please not bother trying to scare us with nonsensical threats of default, etc., because if they can’t pay their bills now, how in the world are they going to pay them in 10 years when the debt has doubled?

          • DaveH

            I just emailed my Congressmen with this letter:
            “Please do not raise the Debt Ceiling. And Please do not try to scare me with such threats as “Defaults”, etc., because if you can’t pay your bills now, how are you going to pay them in 10 years when the Debt has doubled?
            Also note that I am well-aware of the strategy to pay off the debt with devalued dollars at the expense of good citizens’ savings thanks to the Federal Reserve creation of excess fiat dollars. Good Congressmen will join Ron Paul and stop the Federal Reserve.
            It is morally wrong to indebt our Children and Grandchildren for Spending that they didn’t even get to vote on. And it is morally wrong to deplete the value of Good Citizens dollar-denominated savings with Inflation.
            Thank you for listening.”

            And don’t swallow their scare tactics. The Federal Government owns 30% of our land. They could sell some of that land to easily pay their obligations, and if they butted out of our economy, and eliminated the Federal Reserve, and many other Unconstitutional Federal Agencies, we would be out of the woods in less than a decade.
            Do not let them scare you. We need to send the Federal Government to SA sessions (Spenders Anonymous).

          • JeffH

            RicSeag, that is flat out a fabrication. Clinton never had a balanced budget, never, and he never created a surplus. Nice try, but clearly an intended fabrication by those that say it.

            Not once during the Clinton Administration did the national debt go down, nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a budget surplus that he spent at a frat party kegger. Yes, the budget was almost balanced in FY2000 (ending in September 2000 with a deficit of “only” $17.9 billion), but it never reached zero–let alone a positive number. Clinton’s last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration.

            You can verify these figures by accessing the U.S. Treasury website where the national debt is updated daily and a history of the debt since January 1993 can be obtained.
            http://activerain.com/blogsview/855368/the-clinton-budget-surplus-fact-or-fiction-

          • DaveH

            Also note that Clinton did not initiate the attempted budget balancing. He was just along for the ride:
            http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=5656

          • RicSeag

            Facts are a stubborn thing:

            FY. Surplus (in billions)
            2000 $236.2
            2001. $128.2. (including Bush tax cut round 1)
            2002. -$157.8 (first full Bush budget)
            2003. -$377.6 (New record!!)
            2004. -$412.7 (New record!!!)
            2005. -$318.3 (worst three year run in history!)
            2006. -$248.2 (housing boom in full gear)
            2007. -$160.7
            2008. -$458.6. (The wheels of the neo-liberal Chitty-chitty fall off)
            2009. -$1,413.6 (last Bush signed budget)

            Bush’s 8-year total = -$3.548 Trillion in new debt
            (source: http://www.cbo.com/ftpdocs/108xx/doc10871/01-26-Outlook.pdf#page144)

            Tough to dispute the raw facts!

            Bush inherited a budget surplus with a growing economy and by the time he was done he had added nearly $4trillion to the debt and collapsed the economy.

            Tough to dispute the raw facts!

          • JeffH

            RicSeag, wrong, wrong, wrong and several things…
            1. you are in error
            2. your posted link is in error
            3. the CBO? LMAO!

            Political doublespeak along with smoke and mirrors does not make a balanced budget, no matter whose math you choose to use.

            There never was a balanced budget under Clinton. The total national debt is public debt + intragovernmental holdings. Clinton paid down the public debt by borrowing far more money in the form of intragovernmental holdings (mostly Social Security).

            Where I come from credit debt is still debt…ever hear of “borrowing from Peter to pay Paul”?
            http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

          • DaveH

            RicSeag,
            What have you shown us? That Bush spent money like a drunken sailor? Like we didn’t know that? But now, Obama has shown Bush to be a piker. The National Debt has gone up at over twice the rate as during the Bush years. And don’t tell me that Obama inherited that, because a man who could ram health care insurance down our collective throats could easily have reversed the expenditures.
            This year Obama has requested to spend $3.8 Trillion, of which $1.5 Trillion will be borrowed and add to the National Debt. In Bush’s last year the Federal Government spent $2.9 Trillion, of which $.24 Trillion ($240 Billion) was borrowed and added to the National Debt. Keep in mind that Democrats controlled Congress that year.

        • RicSeag

          Yes I’m sure, jeffH, that activerain.com is much more reliable s source than the Congressional Budget Office.

          LMFAO.. goon.

          Get a grip.

          Still can’t find a refutation? I see some people threw numbers out there with no source. But as I said, facts are tough to swallow sometimes.

          And yes, Obama inherited an economy that was dead. Inflating it back to life is one option…. The one chosen by Bush’s Treasury Secretary as well as Obama’s. Another option was a 20-year depression…. Like the TeaBaggers want.

          • JeffH

            RicSeag, it’s very obvious to me that you just don’t care about the truth…so keep swallowing that liberal truth nectar. You obviously didn’t take the time to follow the link, read and analyze the “data” did you?

            Every year Clinton was in office, the total national debt continued to climb.

            How Clinton managed to claim a surplus was that while the general operating budgets ran deficits but Clinton borrowed from numerous off budget funds to make the on budget fund a surplus.

            For example, in 2000, Clinton claimed a $230B surplus, but Clinton borrowed
            $152.3B from Social Security
            $30.9B from Civil Service Retirement Fund
            $18.5B from Federal Supplementary Medical insurance Trust Fund
            $15.0B from Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund
            $9.0B from the Federal Unemployment Trust Fund
            $8.2B from Military Retirement Fund
            $3.8B from Transportation Trust Funds
            $1.8B from Employee Life Insurance & Retirement fund
            $7.0B from others

          • JeffH

            RicSeag, The Congressional Budget Office projections are less accurate than a horoscope. The CBO doesn’t have a good track record for making such predictions, they have only been issuing these types of reports since 1981 and there simply isn’t enough historical data to make accurate projections. All the CBO does is provide forecasts of economic data to Congress. They “estimate” and provide baseline projections of the federal budget.

            Are the Congressional Budget Office estimates accurate? Put aside the conclusion that prophecies are only a 50/50% proposition. Common sense please. How are you going to radically increase government entitlements and spend less without raising taxes and/or penalizing some other budget item? Worse yet, budgets can be off by a mere +100% for just one year of a 10 year projection.

            Don’t Trust the CBO’s Numbers
            http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3910
            by Alan Reynolds
            This article was first published in the Wall Street Journal, August 30, 2001.

      • MSSouth

        You tell me, what does our Constitution say about duel citizenship? And you using the race card just don’t work anymore. You toss that card when you have nothing else to use. Do you know the old saying, “The bit dog barks first”? Chew on that for awhile. If not for your president and his progressive followers we would already be climbing out of this mess. Until we get some adults in DC, we will continue to rush for the cliff. You need to grow up and take the blinders off.

      • CherylB

        I am offended by YOUR racist comment about Obama being Black. The very idea that you omit the fact that he was born of a WHITE mother makes you a racist and bigot – bet’cha never though of that, did you? He is HALF BLACK – NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS!

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          He is a mulatto. Nothing more, nothing less….

          • Chris

            He is a human being– nothing more,nothing less. And the sooner you people realize that color, ethnicity, etc. have nothing to do with it, the better off we will all be.

          • DaveH

            Then you, Chris, should quit bringing it up and instead strive for the truly color-blind society that MLK advocated. That would mean no special protections for minorities. That would mean truly Equal Treatment under the law. Quit letting the Political Class get away with using your Hopes and Dreams to build their Power and Perks.

          • RicSeag

            Robin…

            Why don’t just call him what you really want to cal him – ni&&er!

            Using the word mulatto is just as offensive! Just show your true colors! If you’re so confident you’re not a racist, then just let it out!

          • JeffH

            RicSeag, just because you think like a racist doesn’t mean everyone else is. Don’t you have a usy freeway to play in?

            Just an FYI.
            Definition of MULATTO
            1 the first-generation offspring of a black person and a white person
            2 a person of mixed white and black ancestry

            If you find this definition offensive then I would kindly suggest you get the thickness of your skin checked.

          • Carlucci

            mulatto or cafe au lait…

          • JeffH

            Carlucci, :) or Venti Mocha?

        • Dorothy Jones

          He is half white and half black and I know I am not a racist.

          • Jovianus

            He’s a humna being. And an American.

          • Carlucci

            Uh oh…….ricseag just dropped the “n” bomb. Now, that’s what I would call racist!

      • Ron

        obviously by your spelling I can see you would believe anything and being a part of the huge dumbed down American people who can’t see past the ends of their noses the government can get away with using this puppet president as a real one.The amount of time producing it says everything!The puppet should be impeached!

      • Scott K.

        Michael,

        Based upon your post, it is quite clear that you are functionally illiterate. It is the ignorant among our population (those like you) who put Obama in the White House. Now, the intelligent among us are left to clean up after you. But then again, that is nothing new…

      • joe

        Oh, shut the hell up, already! Enough with the race-baiting [offensive word removed]! Do you really think we fall for it, [offensive word removed]?

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear joe,

          Please respect our comment policy.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • karolyn

            Bob – Why is it that have seen some pretty foul language getting through this last week (all from conservatives)? Primarily s—t.

          • DaveH

            All from Conservatives?
            Come on, Karolyn, you know that isn’t true.

          • Thamera

            selective memory DaveH lol

          • Karolyn

            Okay, so it was just one person’s post. I can give you a name, but I’m not going back over the last few days to find out the particular posts.

      • Aric

        M. Bell, you are a commie puke just like YOUR president… Take a look at the Constitution, you might learn something. A dual citizen is not eligible to be president of the U.S., even if they are born here!!!

        • Jovianus

          Just looked again Aric…nope…i see nothing that states anything barring a dual citizen from holding office. Where Constitution are you looking at?

      • kodster5

        Here’s another thing for all of you that claim the “racist” card when you have nothing else to fall back on. Get it through your heads! It is NOT a matter of whether Barack Obama is black or white, or any combination thereof! It is a matter of whether or not he is eligible… and he clearly is NOT… based even on his own admission by providing a fraudulent birth certificate that states that he was born of a British citizen (his father) and an American citizen (his mother, who wasn’t even old enough to confer American citizenship upon her son). The US Constitution, and the United States Immigration office, cleary states that those of dual citizenship are NOT eligible to run for president of the United States. Obama had dual citizenship, due to the citizenship of both his parents. He gave up that dual citizenship, to become a citizen of Indonesia, through his adoptive father, because Indonesia, like the United States, does not recognize dual citizenship! Now, in order to return to the United States, and become a citizen, he would have had to go the “naturalized” route. They do not automatically re-instate “natural-born” citizenship once you denounce the United States to become a citizen of another country! So, on MANY points, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., is NOT a “natural-born” citizen, that it’s not worth arguing over. He is an illegal president, we cannot impeach him, because he is not there, legally. The ones we should go after are Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Howard Dean, who was the DNC chairman at the time of the Democratic National Convention in Denver, CO, who certified his eligibility, knowing that he wasn’t eligible. They swore on oath that he was, and we now know he wasn’t.

        • RicSeag

          You’re such a bumbling idiot! You obviously have no knowledge of either the Constitution or Obama. Do yourself a favor and push away from the keyboard. You just look dumb.

          • Sutekh

            RicSeag, you call other people “stupid” for supposedly not knowing the Constitution, or Obama.

            Absolutely nobody knows anything about Obama’s past. To suppose that one does, by saying that Obama is or is not a citizen is to tell a lie. Nobody knows who the hell he is. The population at large knows a hundred times more about who and where the Mormon polygamist Joseph Smith, Jr. was in 1822 than it does about where Obama was from 1961 to 2004.

            As for not knowing anything about the Constitution, if the fellow you criticize really DOESN’T know anything about the contitution, he is FULLLY qualified to be AG of the U.S. under Obama. The AG’s office has publicly argued in open court before three justices that the Obamacare is constitutional because the federal government can mandate anything it pleases. That is ridiculous on its face, since there’d be no need for a constitution in the first place if the federal government could do whatever it pleased. So ignorance of the constitution would be a great compliment coming from an Obama supporter — after all, ignorance of the Constitution makes one cabinet material in Obama’s eyes.

            You can say “sour grapes” to McCain, because he sought the Presidency and lost. Otherwise, it is pretty much as gross an error as stating that one has traveled through all but 3 of the “57 states,” as Obama did.

            Those other seven states — have their electoral votes been counted yet? Just wondering, because if Obama isn’t “dumb,” then we need to know how those other states voted.

            Sutekh

      • Cliffystones

        Michael,

        First of all, I really don’t care if he’s eligible or not. For now he’s got the job and he’s doing his to pretty much piss off any American who disagrees with him as evidenced in his “neener-neener” comments on immigration the other day. But please do proofread what you write. While I got the jist of what you were trying to say, I was reminded of reading one of those “Chinglish” user’s manuals.

        Now here’s the $64 question. How did anybody get a “video of live birth”? I assume your comment was meant as sarcasm as that technology wouldn’t be available until about the time Obama graduated from college and joined the Peoples Liberation Movement. But as Chip pointed out, all of the examinations of this document pointing out all of the little “squigglies” and markings that appear to be IDENTICAL to other documents released in the past can’t be simply explained or politicized away. But like I said, he’s already “in charge” so we’ll have to live with him for the time being. Until somebody really, really catches him saying or doing something beyond his usual childish narcissistic comments and actions that the MSM can’t ignore or casually explain away.

        Oh Chip! you forgot to add to his description “Legend in his own mind”.

      • jibbs

        It doe’s not matter if he was born in Hawaii, father from Kenya, mother less than 21 years of age….read the law and constituion before you speak. Your posts make you look stupid. Education is the key to the TRUTH.

      • Roger Lindsey

        So when is your president going to start work for the American People in stead of the communists?

    • Jovianus

      Errr…care to show where a natural born US citizen who holds dual citizenry is ineligible to hold the office of the Presidency?

      • jibbs

        Jovianus says:
        May 13, 2011 at 9:17 am
        Errr…care to show where a natural born US citizen who holds dual citizenry is ineligible to hold the office of the Presidency?

        **********************************************************************
        Jovi-as, you have been givin the TRUTH and links to the TRUTH by so many here, but you have never provided one bit of where your info. comes from, or any link to it. Why do we always have to do your homework for you? Is your pea size brain not capable of doing any research yourself? or is to easy to take scraps of bs provided by the main stream media. Learn to think and research for yourself.
        Igorance is not an excuse, it just makes you look stupid. Don’t forget that Monday is May 15th, “payday”

        • Jovianus

          Jibbs…I do my ho9mework. Any links provided to prove the wacked point of view are comical at best (for the most part. 45 has a rational head on his shoulders and I appreciate what he provides. I may not adhere to it, but he has cred. with almost everyone here).

          BTW…speaking of ignorance, the 15th is a Sunday. Payday was today.

          • DaveH

            Face it, Jovianus, you don’t provide links because it’s too hard to find references to back up your lies.

          • Thamera

            Exactly DaveH…Jovi can’t come up with his own definitions either and is constantly “confused” about anyone’s reference to the “founders.” Again, LOL

      • JeffH

        Actually, I have to say that Jovi-commie is right. As long as the president is a “natural born” citizen of the US he/she can hold that office. There is nothing in the Constitution that says otherwise.
        But…although the POTUS has sworn his allegiance to theConstitutionn and the US there can still be the question of conflict, which doesn’t change anything.

        • JeffH

          …despite holding dual citizenship…

  • Joe M. Royal Palm Beach, FL.

    My sources tell me that raid on Bin Laden’s compound was already in the works. Obama just took credit for approving the operation to take the 2nd phoney birth cert. off the radar screen. Have you heard one bit of news on the certificate being photoshopped, analyzed by independent expert forensic document specialist? Nothing!!! Bottom line… he’s INELIGIBLE !!!

    • Karen

      Multiple graphics experts have provided irrefutable evidence that the new BC is a forgery. It’s time anyone with a brain in America started screaming about it. If BO is ineligible, he must be removed immediately and all the crap he has done becomes null and void. Of course, that wouldn’t bring back Bin Ladin, but I reckon that’s probably the good thing, no matter how we got rid of that terrorist.

      • karolyn

        Yeah, yeah, yeah…. Believe what you want from all of these people who manipulate things to be the way THEY want them to be! :-)

        • Lastmanstanding

          And how is our little Americorps foot soldier today? have you thought about where they will put you IF a the NWO that you wish to have is implemented?

          I can tell you where with 110% surety…and you won’t like it one damn bit.

          • DaveH

            They will wait until Karolyn’s vote is no longer needed. Then she will be crying on our shoulders because they took her tulips away and she has nothing left to tiptoe through.

        • joe

          God, I cannot WAIT to see how you brain-dead obama-zombies are going to like what is coming down the pike. You are like the idiots looking up from that building in “Independence Day”, welcoming the aliens. In the NWO, you’re going to be the first to go.

          • karolyn

            And I can’t wait til you guys are eating crow! :-)

          • DaveH

            Karolyn,
            That’s not fair.
            Judging by the fact that Liberals worship FDR, and he kept this country in Ten years of Depression, I don’t think I have enough years left to see Liberals through in the towel and admit they were wrong.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          karolyn… That is a description of our current administration to a tee! They change the facts and fudge on the others. I don’t believe any of it, or the birth certificate!

        • Eddie47d

          Considering that several on this site doubted that the Navy Seal raid even happened what are we to believe from the right. It’s one thing to question a situation but another one to continually call people liars after the facts are out. Those who claimed that Bin Laden died years ago had no proof but the right keeps insisting he’s been dead for years. So now we have some credible proof and those same people who believed those earlier deaths are still in denial. They have trapped themselves in past hoax’s and can’t find their way out.

          • jibbs

            PROOF?!!, how dare you ask for that, we have givin you the TRUTH many times and links to it, you can’t provide proof or links to your info, let alone the TRUTH or any link to it.. I know longer think that your a TROLL, your a robot!
            warning! warning! Dr. Smith, that doe’s not compute, warning! warning!

          • Eddie47d

            The “links” are right here on this site because they were said on this site.

          • DaveH

            It must be nice to be unconstrained by morality, and thus be able to fabricate any “facts” that come to his (Eddie’s) mind.
            Have we ever seen Eddie provide any references to anything he says? Like Jovianus, Eddie would have to do an awful lot of hunting to find a reference to back up his nonsensical fabricated facts.

          • Thamera

            ummm….Nope! Good point DaveH.

        • jibbs

          LOL, and the border is secure…..you should visit the border(with no escort and unarmed)

        • JeffH

          47Stupid is usually the first to call someone a liar and he’ll be one of the first to demand proof but NEVER EVER provides proof when asked of him. In 47Stupid’s case, the proof is in the pudding!

          47Stupid never asks for anything, but like a good liberal hack, he demands everthing!

      • Owen King

        The BC is just smoke and mirrors, my understanding is that BOTH parents have to be US citizens AND he must be born in the USA, his BC states quite clearly that his father is a citizen of Kenya. True?

        • JiimCO

          Well then you would be wrong, all the 14th amendment says is: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
          So by virtue of being born in the US … he is a citizen. Perhaps we can revisit this if Bobby Jindal gets the VP nod, then you can argue if his parents being over here on a green card, makes his birth legitimate?

          • smilee

            The constitution does not define natural born and the 14th amendment (amendment means to change, add to, or subtract from a previous writing) and the fourteenth amendment did just that, however one defines natural born it now just being born in the US since then. The intent of the amendment does not define the amendment but the words and the intentions expressed by these words is what it means not what some intended it to mean at the time and holds no legal water as that is not how it is expressed in the words of the fourteenth amendment.

          • JeffH

            smilee says, “The constitution does not define natural born”. I suggest study up on that.

            Natural-born citizen

            Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

            The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.

            Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”
            •Anyone born inside the United States *
            •Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
            •Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
            •Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
            •Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
            •Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
            •Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
            •A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

            * There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

            Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

          • JeffH

            …and smilee, the 14th amendement is a part of the US Constitution…so therefore, “a natural born citizen” is defined in the Constitution.

      • Jovianus

        “irrefutable evidence” LOL. Wanna bet that “irrefutable evidence’ wouild be shown to be false if it showed it was legit? LOL. Which is the point…the ‘irrefutable evidence’ wouldn’t stand one second against your next batch of “irrefutable evidence” if it disagreed with the wacked TP crowd.

        Jeesh … get over it. Obama an American and a darn good President.

        • Robert D

          Darn good at what? deflecting criticism, campaigning, lying?

          What is he good at, please tell me for my edification.

          • Thamera

            Good question Robert D…I would like to know as well…Jovi?

        • Thamera

          Wow, the silence is defeaning….Jovi? yoo hoo pretty simple question here LOL

  • Joe M. Royal Palm Beach, FL.

    As for my garbage ..I never wash it before I throw it out. BHO had his fellow brother Moslem buried at sea according to the quaran which he knows only to well from his upbringing..carried out as a true Moslem would do. Did you ever read Quaddafi’s letter to his fellow Moslem brother?
    BHO couldn’t be any phoney-er than a $3 dollar bill! !!
    What? Do you think we are all that stupid?
    GOD ALMIGHTY KNOWS THE TRUE HEARTS OF MEN! (And HE ain’t Allah)

    • Hobbit Baggins

      A sea burial is only appropriate for Moslems if they died at sea. Think about it, most Moslems live in the sand. They are not all taken to be buried at sea when they die. bin Laden was buried in the mountains at Tora Bora in Dec. 2001.

      • Vigilant

        Yeah, right, and I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. The near destruction of relations with Pakistan, Al Quaeda’s threats and taking revenge already, Bush not taking credit in 2001, and Al Quaeda leaders jockeying for the leadership position, are all a massive conspiracy by sworn enemies to fake out the American people.

        When there’s a screw loose, NOTHING will convince the blindly dedicated “true believers” of wacko conspiracy theories that their quests are (1) a waste of time, and (2) certifiably paranoid.

        Tell me, which major tragedy or debacle in the last 100 years is NOT a conspiracy?

  • http://deleted Claire

    Here we go again. Is there no end to this insanity?

    • karolyn

      Amen, Claire! Anything to keep the controversy going. Why not write about good things? The only time that is done is in the health coverage columns.

      • Hobbit Baggins

        You call that a good thing?

        • karolyn

          I’m talking about the health blogs with preventive healthcare measures presented here on Personal Liberty. Do you ever read them?

          • DaveH

            What I don’t understand, Karolyn, is how you can constantly post here, usually in a condescending manner, when you really have nothing informative to say? You have said several times that you don’t have the time to read books in order to gain some insight into reality, yet you seem to have plenty of time to post on this website and give us your uneducated two-cents worth.

      • joe

        You mean the good things your messiah has done? ZERO, ZIP, NADA!!

      • Don

        Karolyn, so why don’t you go there and let us adults talk !!

    • MSSouth

      I can only hope that you are intelligent enough (oops, maybe not intelligent considering you are a liberal) to thank us when all this crap comes out in the wash. And it will come out eventually.

      • Eddie47d

        No thanks,you’ve whitewashed these stories quite enough.You’d all make excellent politicians for you have the BS down to a science.

        • DaveH

          Troll.

  • http://www.productivitysystems.com Steve Thompson

    …”shot Obama in the head – twice” – was that a Freudian slip?

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Steve… Funny… I didn’t catch that. Your observation is right on!

    • Roger

      Wishful thinking I suspect.

    • Vigilant

      Good catch….common error.

    • Lastmanstanding

      Why is now Usama not Osama? obama must have changed that also..lol

      • Vigilant

        Perhaps it should be “Ubama.”

    • joe

      Honestly, who wouldn’t?

    • Dorothy Jones

      And I am still laughing

  • http://google Helen

    Even a blind man can see that Obama’s so called ‘Certificate of Live Birth’ is a phony. My Certificate of Live Birth and my Original Birth Certificate are two completely different documents. When I joined the Army, I had to have my Original Birth Certificate. The hospital Certificate of Live Birth was not accepted.
    Obama will do down in history as the one who destroyed America.
    He is a corrupt lying bully thug, who is controlled by George Soros,
    who is rewriting the US Constitution. That is ‘Sedition’ and no one has the guts to stop and/or arrest these two traitors.

    • karolyn

      When did you join the service? I was not able to get a copy of my original birth certificate. Whatever comes out of the county of birth is supposed to be sufficient as long as it has a seal. And…Obama’s needed to be picked up in person.

      • Grandmomma

        There’s no raised seal on that certificate. It is not a certified copy without it.

        • Jovianus

          Grandmomma…a raised seal is not required.

          • Thamera

            It is in the state I live in as well as the three states that my children were born in…the responsible states that is Jovi.hahahahahahaha

          • jibbs

            Any natural born citizen knows that the seal is required. What country are you from??

          • jibbs

            By the way, here we go again! Jovi went out to play afterschool and showed up the next day, without doing her/his homework!! AGAIN !

          • Jovianus

            Tamera…still keeping that “teaching government” job? LOL

          • DaveH

            Funny, I couldn’t find any references for any states that don’t have raised seals on their Birth Certificates. Maybe Jovianus can provide a reference that will tell us the states that don’t require the seal?
            I did find this:
            http://www.birthcertificate.com/

          • Thamera

            still can’t refute your feeble, fabricated statements can you Jovi… that is what is laughable. Yes, Jovi…and my students love me…Now, why don’t you tell us all what it is that YOU do???

          • Carlucci

            Jovi says he comes to Texas every couple of months on bidness. He also apparently thinks the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders are ugly.

      • joe

        Could you please go troll at HuffPo? You will be amongst like-(un)minded friends, and all clever conservative comments are deleted to make idiots like you look smart. Birth certificate or not, this penile discharge that you call president is a traitorous piece of rancid [offensive word removed]! He is destroying our economy, our constitution, and our national security, and I pray that one day he is tried for high treason and given the maximum penalty allowed for that crime.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Karolyn… Why would a birth certificate have to be picked up in person? I have sent for copies of mine and had no issues.

        • Eddie47d

          It’s the law in Hawaii.

          • kodster5

            You’d better go check that again, Eddie! State of Hawaii does NOT take walk-in business. Everything is supposed to be by mail. They made an exception to Obama. Then, the next day, they cracked down and enforced the administrative law that was supposed to have been enforced since 1999.

          • JeffH

            …I demand that you prove “it’s the law in Hawaii”!

          • DaveH

            Eddie, you need to notify these people, apparently they don’t know the law:
            http://www.birthcertificate.com/state_process.lasso?state=HI

        • Jovianus

          When they changed our DMV requirements to show a passport or a BC…I could not send away for mine. It too had to be picked up ‘in person or by an authorized representative”

          They don’t send those in the mail in most responsible states.

          • Thamera

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Jovi

          • jibbs

            ROLMAF, once agin, no link to where your information comes from………shut up and go away

          • Jovianus

            That law was passed by our legislature a few years back. Something to do with immigration and false IDs. Like I said…responsible states.

          • DaveH

            What state is that, Jovianus?

          • Thamera

            I find it very interesting that Jovi cannot or will not answer the most simple of questions…now why is that Jovi?

  • Insurgent

    There is no truth in anything that comes out of the mouth of this lying ba$tard who was born in Mombass. The certificate that has been shown on the Internet is a genuine as the $4.00 bill that honors Buckwheat. The guy is a lying, phony Muslim Marxist socialist who is slowly destroying America by taking advantage of the stupidity of a high percentage of Americans as well as catering to the illegals from the southern border. Eventually, the USA will become another Muslim third world country and some morning people will wake up, pull their heads out, and wonder what happened !!!!
    God Bless America——————we need YOU now more than ever.

  • http://MSN bob

    IF PRESIDENT George Bush had done what Obamma did (a kill, not capture order) the press would have hung him and impeachment proceedings would have convened on Monday morning.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Jeannie

      Bob you know and I know if George W. Bush had been the one giving the ok to take Bin Laden out there would have been nothing but praise for a job well done. Since our current president is Black no matter what he does the good Christian white people of this country will always disapprove. White people for some reason believe the White House is for white people only and that they are superior. They are not.

      • SAM

        That is one of the most racist statements out there. It is amazing that some people think that only white people can be racists. It goes both ways.

      • vagabond

        jeanie you sound just like a far left STUPID liberal,

      • http://www.poorgrandchildren.com Poorgrandchildren

        I am an equal opportunity racist. I despise Saint Obamao’s white half just as much as I despise whatever else he is. I am sure he is 50% white because he told us that, and any fool knows he never lies.

        • Curtis B.

          Right on and well said!!!!

      • Momplayer

        Here we go again!!!!! Everytime anyone says something bad about a black person,someone plays the black card and makes it about race. It has nothing to do with black,white,brown or green. This guy can’t do the job!!!!!!!! He’s putting this country in the toilet and you think it’s only cause we think he’s black. Wake-up he’s not black,he’s a half breed (black and white guess you forgot his mother who stuck around and took care of him was white) and us good christain white folk wouldn’t be complaining so much if he was doing 1/2 the job he’s surpose to do and I don’t care if it’s the black side or the white side doing it.

      • MSSouth

        Wow, another “bit dog barking first”!!! When all else fails, sling the race card. That card should be frayed and falling apart by now. I don’t care what color he is, he is still a fraud and destroying our great country. Most racist are not as ‘out in the open’ as you have been. Congrats, you will win the award for that honor!!!

      • PattiB

        Jeannie,
        I don’t mean to be rude but are you still living in the 1950′s? A comment like that would mean that you have your head in the sand or somewhere else. The race card is an old worn out excuse to try to cover for a totally inept president. I don’t care if he’s purple, I do care that he is a left-wing Marxist with no thought of anything except destroying the United States of America. Grown up, find an argument that hasn’t been worn out.

        • smilee

          1950′s, what a joke, many on this site are still living in the pre civil war days, that’s how you can conclude some of them are racists even though they deny it, but of course slave owners back then never saw themselves as racist either many thought blacks where gifts from god and intended by him to be their slaves and many on here have this same mentality and deny it just as rigorously.

          • Vigilant

            If you ever opt to present facts instead of insults, someone might actually listen to your drivel.

          • smilee

            What in my post is not factual, again you make accusations out of left field with nothing to support your silly statements

          • Vigilant

            NOTHING in your post will be considered factual unless and until you provide legitimate backup. You have not done that, ergo, your post is pure speculation and hot air.

      • joe

        Please shut the hell up with the race card [offensive word removed], please? It doesn’t work anymore. We’ve figured out why you use it, anyway: YOU and your brain-dead ilk voted for the man-child BECAUSE he is black, so you assume that those of us who didn’t, did so for the same RACIST reason. Read “The liberal mind: The Psychological causes of political madness” and you will finally understand what is wrong with you and your grossly-outnumbered moonbot friends. Now, GO AWAY!

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Jeannie… Again the race card? He isn’t black… he isn’t white…. He’s a mulatto. A MULATTO! So stop trying to claim him as black!

      • MrDave98765

        It’s not about race! It’s about doing the right thing, not lying, not spending our country into the grave. You want a black president? Put Alan West in there. He’s all black, tells the truth, and got his head on straight. Obumer is about to destroy our country!

      • DaveH

        Jeannie, you have shown by your words that you are prejudiced.

      • Carlucci

        OMG – Jeannie….what the french, toast? Could you have made any more of an asinine statement? Oh, if you only had a brain!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Get over yourself. The only racist is you.

  • hellojoe

    In paragraph 9 last sentence- I don’t think it was Obama that was shot in the head. If you pay close attention to the media and interviews- Several of our reporters and interviewees keep mixing up on the names OBAMA and OSAMA. Pretty scary to think that only one letter deciphers the most powerful man in the world with the most wanted man in the world. Makes you think, huh.

    • Barry

      I have noticed that OBL’s name was posthumously changed to Usama Bin Ladin. I suppose it is so dumbed-down Americans won’t confuse the enemy without with the enemy within.
      As for the silly sheeple who are upset with Mr. Woods mild comments which reflect the thinking of many astute Americans- H L Mencken said long ago that no one ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the American public. Half of you are mad because he is not skeptical enough of Obama and the other half are mad because he doesn’t endorse the lies enthusiastically enough.
      Re Obama:The underclass will always support someone who promises them something for nothing. They will keep making excuses, no matter what he does. People with no moral standards tolerate liars & cons, and have no standards of decency or respect for integrity. If you promise to rob Peter to pay Paul, you will always get Paul’s support!

      • kodster5

        EXCELLENT deductions! And the truth!

  • http://! Angel Wannabe

    We will Never know the Truth of either Obama’s Birth(What ever country that was in) or Osama’s Death (whatever year it was).
    It’s all too coincidental??!! 2 million dollars to seal bio info of Obama, and his wife admits, Obama’s home country was Kenya at a speech.(see link below).___ And it just so happenes we get to see the supposed real birth certificate, right around the same time, Bin Laden is captured & murdered for his crimes of 9/11. Because they… “suddenly”… found him!__(see link below of suspect surveillance software). Bottom Line is “we’ll Neva Eva Know The Truth!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcs

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1386191/Privacy-storm-police-buy-Geotime-software-maps-suspects-digital-movements.html

    • Dan az

      Hey Angel
      I think because you posted two sites is why it was delayed.Good ones might I add.The truth will never see the light of dawn not now not later thats a fact.Good news is Ron Paul is running and it scares the hell out of the libs.Made my day!

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Quite Frankly Dan Az, I hope who ever(the elites allow to be voted in) speak for us, not against us. And they fear the American people more, because there is millions of us who hate what is going on in Washington.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Actually it is easy to know the truth, it is rather simple. Anyone that puts out this much effort to hide the birth certificate is a liar.

  • Gary

    Get your facts straight. The Certificate of Live Birth has been out for several years. That was what he pawned off on us before the election. It the long form of the Birth Certificate that he finally made public last month to calm Trump and others. Which is TOTALLY BOGUS if you watch the graphic artist guy explain a detailed description on Youtube. An obvious forgery.

  • Joe

    Not a fan of this article. The author basically very eloquently says
    “I tend to believe what the media tells me and you should too, roflz! Everyone else is a crazy conspiracy theorist!”

    • http://www.roman-empire-america-now.com/Roman-Empire-blog.html Douglas C. Smyth

      Anyone born inside the United States is a natural born US Citizen, regardless of the status of either parent–unless one is a diplomat and therefore does not fall under the jurisdiction of the US. That is a provision and exception in the US code based on the 14th Amendment.

      Barack Obama Senior was a student, not a diplomat, so, clearly, his son is a natural born
      US citizen. Face it: Barack Obama is legally the President of the United States. There is NO prohibition against a black person becoming President. Get used to it.

      Further, he’s no socialist and no Marxist. As someone sympathetic to socialism (as in Sweden and Norway), I wish he was a socialist, but really, he’s not. He’s not even a liberal. He’s a centrist compromiser and a politician first of all. Most of his policies are, unfortunately, a continuation of the policies of the worst President we ever had: GW Bush.

      • http://www.roman-empire-america-now.com/Roman-Empire-blog.html Douglas C. Smyth

        I should add that the reason Obama didn’t release the long form until now, was because the State of Hawaii does not ordinarily release the long form, only the short form. It takes an extraordinary situation for it to be released. That is also why Obama had to send an aide to pick up the form.

        For those of you who still believe that Obama is an illegitimate President and this form is a forgery, I’m sorry, but you’ll believe anything except the undeniable fact: Obama is legally President of the United States. If someone started a rumor that Obama was really an alien from another planet, you’d probably believe that, too.

        But keep on ranting! You make Republicans look like idiots.

        • ValDM

          Doug,
          See my comments above re: adoption.

          • smilee

            You going to also show us the adoption papers?? It sure is taking a long time for you people.

          • DaveH

            You’re wasting you time, ValDM. These guys still believe that Socialism works when all the countries that have implemented it fully have had failed economies. They still believe that the Leaders are selfless people that only have the citizens’ best interest at heart.
            People will believe anything when they have visions of sugar-plum troughs dancing in their heads.

          • DaveH

            They still believe that Alternative Energies are the way to go even though they aren’t economical and need to be subsized with taxpayer money to make them palatable to the consumers. Even though 2 of their favorites, wind generators and solar panels are a blight on the environment.
            They still believe that “Speculators” are driving the price of oil up, even though Speculators were alive and well during the Reagan administration when prices declined dramatically.
            These aren’t bright people, these are Liberals.

          • smilee

            Davie

            we were talking about adoption, I guess you missed that, typical davie

          • Thamera

            You are 2 funny Smilee…hard to comprehend more than one topic at a time Smilee…sad for you.

          • DaveH

            I was demonstrating to ValDM, Sleepee, how useless it is to try to educate Blindered Liberals.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          It’s amazing, you have actually gotten inside Obama’s brain and know how he thinks and what he intends to do to this country.
          Which Liberal variety of stupid are you?

  • Kevin

    To all above, go to the official website of the whitehouse, download the pdf of the cert, and just take a good look at it. It is unbelievably, outrageously, fantastically insulting to my intelligence!!!!!!
    No I’m not a neurosugeon, or a physicist, rocket scientist, etc.; you get the picture, I’m just a guy that has used computers since they were invented, with a little above average intelligence.
    I’m absolutely INSULTED. INSULTED, get it?
    My 9 year old could have done a much better job …

    • Shaul

      Well said Kevin.
      I bought Adobe Illustrator last year to make some graphics for my business. I’m certainly not an expert with the program, but it’s very obvious that the BC was “built”. They had years to build this, and they couldn’t do a better job than that? I could have done a better job, or Kevin’s 9 year old could have.

      Where does that leave us? It’s a fake, it was intended to be a fake, and it was intended that we know it’s a fake. Makes you wonder WHY?

      Watch the other hand, people. Watch the other hand.

  • American Citizen

    Does every Hawaiian birth certificate look like this? I’d like to see a copy of a real birth certificate from Hawaii. from someone born the same year as he was. This document still has the words “Certificate of Live Birth” on it. Not the same thing as a genuine birth certificate. This only proves he’s alive.

  • les

    According to your artical the seals shot OBAMA twice in the head?? How could that be? I saw him again last night on tv still trashing more republicans and sucking up to the latinos

    • kodster5

      Wishful thinking, Les. Go read the article again, it’s “Osama”. But then again, you see what you want to see, I guess. A lot of us do wish it was.

  • Bob Grimshaw

    Don’t you think that if the “Birth Certificate” was legitimate that he would have given it to us 2 years ago???

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Jeannie

      What difference would it have made? You white birthier would doing exactly what you’re doing now, pretending it’s a forgery.

      • MSSouth

        Wow, here is the bit dog again!!! Race card alert!!! Zing!

      • Scott K.

        Jeannie,

        If you were able to communicate in a legitimately accepted form of recognized communication such as English, rather than Ebonics, people might be able to decipher the thoughts you are attempting to articulate.

      • BOB

        Well Jeannie: It seems to me you must be BLACK since that seems to be the only word in youe miniscule language base.The certificate of live birth is FAKE,THE SITTING MUSLIM POTUS IS FAKE,GO TO GOOGLE TYPE IN BARACK OBAMA KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE SEE WHAT THE RESULTS BRING UP.THEN CALL THE REST OF US RACIST.BY THE WAY THERE ARE AS MANY OR MORE BLACKS WHO ARE RACIST AS THERE ARE WHITES.AS THE OLD TIMER SAID PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT!!!

        • karolyn

          Well, here’s another slant on the same issue. Do you only read what fits your agenda?
          http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp

          • DaveH

            This issue aside, because I really don’t think it’s worth the effort, have you, Karolyn, ever read any of the links I have provided? Or the books?

          • DaveH

            By the way, Karolyn, aren’t you working today? Is this how it is for Government jobs, you can sit around blogging all day?

          • Karolyn

            Dave – Do you not pay attention? Yes, I have read some of your links and responded and read and not responded because they wee not worth responding to. And, I did my share today, Dave. I do get breaks and lunch. BTW, do you have any idea how much I am “paid”? A “living expense” of under the minimum wage; and if you asked anyone I work with or for, they would tell you what a good worker I am, going above and beyond – always have been. Also, previously you called me condescending. That’s a real laugh! Another pot calling the kettle black.

          • DaveH

            You sure do have a lot of breaks, Karolyn. Sounds to me like whatever you’re paid it’s too much.

          • DaveH

            So Karolyn says she writes her comments during breaks and lunch. Let’s see, she posted comments at 12:29, 12:31, 12:37, 12:42, 1:32, 1:49, 1:52, 2:05, 2:45, 2:47, and 2:50 (I know the time zone is different, but the relative times still hold). Must be one helluva long lunch, and the breaks must be frequent.
            I guess we can see where our tax dollars are going.

          • Jay

            Good catch Dave!!!

          • Karolyn

            Watch out people! Dave is now the Posting Police!

          • Karolyn

            PS, Dave, as I’ve posted before, I’ve paid taxes for over 40 years; so actually, I’m paying myself!

          • DaveH

            Speaking of Karolyn,
            Have any of you seen this? The Americorps Pledge:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmeriCorps#Member_pledge

            Where is the usual Government Employee pledge to uphold the Constitution? Could this organization be the next Brownshirts, oops I mean Civilian Police Force as envisioned by Obama?

          • DaveH

            This is a good example of how Government takes money from the productive private sector and wastes it in the unproductive Government Sector. How many of you non-government employees are allowed to blog on the computer during work hours?
            And it’s a good example of how they get people hooked and buy their votes. How many people are willing to vote themselves out of a job for Principles? I would estimate only a minority of people are that Principled.
            Those of us who don’t want to see our once great country turned into another Cuba had best start working real hard to shrink our Leviathan Government.

          • DaveH

            I just sent this message to all of my Congressmen:
            “I think the Americorps program would be a good place to start eliminating unneeded and Unconstitutional Federal Government programs. Americorps is so obviously a dangerous tool for Big Government lovers, that it stands out in my mind as one of the first that should go. What a perfect breeding ground for good little Socialists.
            Please vote to eliminate Americorps.”

            Thanks for lighting a fire under my rear, Karolyn.

          • Thamera

            All I can say is wow…good to know DaveH…what exactly do you do for Americorp karolyn?

          • Karolyn

            Thamera and Dave, As I’ve posted before, I work for a nonprofit organization that specializes in domestic and sexual assault, including child abuse. And, Dave, don’t worry; AmericaCorps is getting cut. Less people will be getting the help and education that they need. I’ve also said before that the people who work for AmeriCorps, at most for minimum wage (which is called a “living expense), contribute to the economy and to helping others, thus taking the burden off government agencies in the long run.

          • Thamera

            while the “cause” is noble karolyn, I still don’t understand what you do. Counseling? Education? Who won’t be educated if Americorps is unfunded and with all the private counselors and therapists available who won’t get help exactly? As for government agencies…Americorps is one…is it not?

          • Karolyn

            Thamera – I am in outreach. The purpose of the program is to bring information out into the rural community about sexual assault so that more victims can receive the help they need and also to increase reporting of sexual assaults, so that more perpetrators will be brought to justice and not continue to offend. I bring sexual assault presentations to church groups, schools, police departments, and other organizations. Education is necessary to try to bring an end to violence in all forms. Somebody has to do something. If I can help just one teenager to avoid rape or one victim to report and bring an offender to justice, or one person to step in and stop an act of violence, I am happy. If education is not brought to the community and change is not affected, the burden of dealing with the fallout falls to the county and state agencies that are already overburdened. The organization I work with is nonprofit and partly staffed by volunteers, a great many of whom have suffered from family violence or sexual assault. It serves 8 counties.

          • DaveH

            You Liberals force yourself on other people regularly, Karolyn, using Government as your agent of force. So, it seems odd to me that you would feel empathy for rape victims. Or, do you side with the rapists?

          • DaveH

            And how come there are still all those problems, Karolyn. I thought that was what Big Government was going to save us from? They’re twice as big now as in 1950 when I was born, but we have more problems now then we had then. Just how bad does it have to get before you wake up and smell the coffee?

          • DaveH

            And I wanted to correct a rationalization from you, Karolyn.
            You said “PS, Dave, as I’ve posted before, I’ve paid taxes for over 40 years; so actually, I’m paying myself”.
            No, Karolyn, you aren’t paying yourself. Do all the people who have paid taxes for 40 years get that same money? No. Your paid taxes are only a portion of what you’re getting. Not the whole.

          • Jay

            Karolyn, there is no such thing as non-profit organizations!

          • Karolyn

            Jay – Well the organization I am with is operating at a huge deficit right now and struggling. Everything goes into programs and services. Who would you say profits, other than those people who are helped? I’ve worked in nonprofits before, and they all have the lowest paying jobs for the amount of education and experience of the employees.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    That which is done in darkness will eventually come to the light but it may come to late to save US OR THE NATION. TRUTH WILL SET US FREE.

  • http://newsmax Glen

    After reading you above article, I am sad to imform you of a little type o that you made when you talked about the brave Navy Seal Team. I have copied what was read and have shown it below.

    I am going to accept the whole incredible story hook, line and sinker. I believe an elite group of Navy Seals, after very specialized and secret training, flew from Afghanistan to northern Pakistan, landed behind the 10-foot walls of a mysterious compound, raced upstairs to the third floor where bin Laden was staying, shot two of his guards (and one poor, defenseless woman who was used as a shield), then shot Obama in the head — twice — when he tried to resist.

    In the last line is the type o, wishful thinking butI’m sure I’m not the only reader that made a note of this. If this statement was true it might be the start of the saving of this great nation.

    I do agree with most of the comments made that BHO is as useful as a footbat bat. With this being said, we should also include the rest of the leadership of this country that have forgotten why they are in the position they are in. We, the American people, revolted once before and are not afraid of doing it again. Our forefathers gave us this country governed by a constitution and the ability to cast off the present form of government and set in place a new. Maybe everyone should read the Declaration of Independance and the Constitution of the United States and then see how they feel.

    • Owen King

      Okay, if indeed Obama was shot in the head twice I applaud the efforts of the seal team in upholding their oath to “defend the Constitution against all enemies, foriegn and domestic”, but obliously no damage was done.
      As to being shot twice, that is standard procedure, called a “double tap”, send 2 bullets to be sure before the next target. Also, it is my understanding that, each member of a special forces team, when passing a downed enemy, will put an additional bullet into the body to be absolutely sure thay are not preparing to jump the team from the rear as they pass. No faking being dead.

    • Owen King

      Okay, if indeed Obama was shot in the head twice I applaud the efforts of the seal team in upholding their oath to “defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic”, but obliously no damage was done.
      As to being shot twice, that is standard procedure, called a “double tap”, send 2 bullets to be sure before the next target. Also, it is my understanding that, each member of a special forces team, when passing a downed enemy, will put an additional bullet into the body to be absolutely sure thay are not preparing to jump the team from the rear as they pass. No faking being dead.

  • Tom

    “””In fact, President Barack Obama had an aide fly from Washington to Honolulu to pick up the “Certificate of Live Birth.” “”
    If in fact this is true, your quote, then someone needs to explain why this had to be? For one, they released a copy of his PASSPORT, which requires an original with a raised “SEAL” in order to obtain legally? So what document was provided for that passport? I’m required to provide the orignal, why would he be different?

  • Les

    C’mon Chip, have another cup of coffee and turn up the sarcasm meter, some folks don’t get it. He sent his valet to do what the governor and his staff couldn’t accomplish (all they had was an older version of Adobe). And you need to cut some slack on the Osama thing; after the shock those videos put on HillaryBilly’s face we wouldn’t dare make them public. What a wonderful week for the Kenyan in Chief. Now, the boogeyman is dead, can I have my Constitution back??

  • Martin Maidenbaum

    He was born in Kenya, and he is a Muslim who intends to destroy our country from within. So far, he is doing a wonderful job in accomplishing that goal. The sooner our naive population comes to grips with these facts, the sooner we can get started in putting us back on the track that got us here in the first place. Our Constitution, Acknowledgement of God, and moral standards have been ripped from our midst by this liar. 2012 has to be a complete turn around in the United States of America. Islam can not coexist with a Judeo-Christian society. Sharia Law should be practiced by Muslims in their countries, not here.

    • vagabond

      Martin. as long as the dope heads whores raising their kids on the tax payers dime and blacks out numbering the working class they will keep electing this slimeball and all others who promis them they wont have to work for a living, I firmly beleive in helping the truely needy, but not the teuely greedy and those too damned sorry to work,

  • scott5134

    Everyone is missing the Point. It does not matter if it is real or not, even thought it is not, it is not valid. Obama was later adopted. When you are you get a new BC showing the new parents. Since he was adopted out of country, the new BC would show his new country, thus dual citizenship, which makes him unable to be president

    • ValDM

      Thank you Scott for reinforcing my argument.

    • smilee

      Even if he was adopted of which there is absolutely no proof of, that would not change the fact he was born in the US and that is all that is required to be eligible to be president besides being 35 years old and have lived in the US fourteen years

      • combatvet

        Slimee,

        True to form, wrong again! First of all no proof he was born in Hawaii either. Forensically the multiple birth documents he has foisted upon a rather ignorant population have been proven fabrications. When he was adopted by Lolo Soetero, if in fact he was an American citizen, which is still in doubt, he would have forfeited one for the other. Indonesia does not allow for dual citizenship, nor does America for that matter, for the office of CNC! He is not natural born, never was, he was a citizen of Britain at birth according to British common law of 1948 as Kenya was under British rule at the time and his father a British subject. So let’s see, my what a tangled we weave, a citizen of Britain, Kenya, Indonesia and highly doubtful, America. In the least he would have had to renounce his US citizenship under Indonesian law. He had an Indonesian passport the requirement for which is Indonesian citizenship! In addition, once a British citizen, always a British citizen, it cannot be vacated, it’s for life!

        Divided loyalties are a non-starter for running for the office of President, just ask Arnold the former Governor of California who wanted to run but couldn’t……….divided loyalties. He is a naturalized citizen, not a NBC!

        Now do the world a favor and go play in traffic!

        • smilee

          your 100% wrong, their indoctrination sure worked with you

  • bohemian

    Most of us do NOT finally agree that BHØ is Constitutionally eligible to be President. Whether or not he is ‘native-born’ is irrelevant; the requirement under the Constitution is ‘natural born.’ Natural born = born on U.S soil of 2 parents that are U.S. citizens. Øbama has made such a mockery of the birth certificate issue that we may never know for sure which of the multiple ‘copies’ (if any) is real.
    That brings us to the issue for which we need no additional documents, the natural born citizen requirement. BHØ Sr. was born in Kenya, and was never a U.S. citizen, so the current resident of the White House is ineligible for the office of President. End of discussion.
    Instead of pecking away at all the destruction he has done with his policies, having pissing contests with all the dopey Democrats, this is one way to fix it in one fell swoop.
    I am very surprised at the ignorance of the natural born citizen requirement, but I am shocked at the lack of indignation that this dirtbag in the White House has repeatedly given us the middle finger, stonewalling at every turn, and shoving things down our throats despite loud opposition. He is an embarrassment. But, sadly, the media and the Congress are not likely to admit their culpability in promoting, supporting, and covering up for this illegal, immoral, illegitimate, treasonous, un-American, dumber-than-a-post idiot.

  • http://personallibertydigest.com Robert LeFever

    Mr. Chip Wood, I find it hard to believe that you are stupid enough to believe that Obama is eligible to be the U.S. president. This latest birth cert is obviously a forgery and is evident to anyone having used the computer enhancements available today. Let’s see some more evidence about Obama scholarships when attending Harvard and Columbia. Were they scholarships that were useable only by foreign students?? There is the key proving that he was/is an Indonesian citizen. Maybe Mr. Trump will uncover some of these “untouchable” subjects. In the meantime I am personally unsubscribing from this newsletter. I feel betrayed that Bob Livingston would allow you to put such crap in print. R. LeFever

    • bohemian

      Amen!

  • Sutekh

    I’m impressed with the article for the simple reason that the author tells the truth:

    It doesn’t matter where Obama was born — he is out to destroy the United States of America as a free and sovereign nation. His agenda is clear, from the arguments made by the justice department two days ago in defense of Obamacare. The AG’s office argued before two judges one appointed by Clinton, and two appointed by Obama himself, that the federal government can do anything that it wants to. Within 45 days, there should be a ruling, and if (as expected) the toady judges rule for their Fuehrer, then the case will have to go for a full hearing before the Supreme Court.

    Obama plays the blacks off against the whites, by making the blacks feel privileged and the whites feel slighted. He plays the unions off the regular workers, He plays the rich against the poor (even though he himself is very rich.) He plays the illegals and the native-born against each other. His administration is the culmination of the marxist agitation of the 1960′s, in which every ethnic group, race, religion, and everything else was encouraged to cut itself off from every other group and insist on elite status for itself. It’s working, down to the accusation of “racism” against anyone who is opposed to Obama’s program of destruction.

    Sutekh

    Patient: “What’s wrong with me?”

    Dr. Obama: “Nothing. You’re perfectly healthy. That’s why I’m writing you a prescription for disaster.”

    • Carol

      I couldn’t agree with you more if I tried he needs to arrested and thrown into jail in front of all of us because he is a fraud up to and including his wife and everyone included in the family unfortunately there are two (2) children that are thrown into this mess at no fault of their own.

      • Sutekh

        Carol, I got tired of Dick Cheney being called “The most dangerous vice president we’ve ever had,” especially knowing that the Marxocrats had provided us with Bill Clinton, the most dangerous PRESIDENT we had ever had. Then we got Obama, who is the most dangerous PRESIDENT we have ever had.

        All politicians are lying opportunists, but Obama wins the Goebbels Piss Prize. He is against war and violence, but orders the no-questions-asked “Deguerro” killing of bin Laden. He claims that he wants change, but reinforces the stranglehold that unions have on every sector of productivity in the country. He sends lawyers to the Supreme Court to defend Obamacare (as constitutionally provided for,) and then these lawyers put up the legal argument that “the federal government can mandate anything it wants to,” which is certainly not constitutional. Then he refuses to send the constitutionally required lawyers to the same place to defend the Defense of Marriage Act. If the federal govt could do anything it wanted to, there would have been no need for the Constitution i the first place. The contradictions in Obama’s words and deeds spell “clear and present danger.”

        Remember, Obama has compared himself to Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln, as you recall, did not hesitate to provide the initial version of Ghaddafy’s gameplan of “using military force against his own people.”

        If while spitting out water, you think your dentist is too much like Dick Cheney– remember, a few more years of Obama, and your policemen will be more like the NKVD.

        Sutekh

  • Carol

    By the way I don’t believe in one moment in time that his birth certificate is real it is a fraud because he was born in Kenya just as grandmother said and furthermore I don’t believe Obama killed him I think he has been killed so many times I can’t really count. The only way I would believe this if I were standing there and watching for myself and maybe I would believe it because he has a lot of look a likes.

    Everything about him is a fraud and there is nothing that anyone can say to me to change my mind NOTHING.

  • James Corbin

    All the presidents lives should be an open book to the american people. All the other presidents had to show everything about their lives ( Grades)etc. So why would it take sooo long for this president to come forth with all the info.????Something Fishy ?????????

  • Livefree

    The issue has never been the BC or where he was born, except for those who wanted to divert attention from the real issue. It’s a legal issue of Natural Born. Why did Chester Arthur go to such lenths to hide his fathers citizenship at the time of his [Chester's] birth? Read the statements of Representative Bingham and Senator Howard or hey how about Supreme Court Associate Justice Hugo Black, in his concurring opinion in Duncan v. Louisiana, 391 U.S. 145 (1968):

    “Professor Fairman’s “history” relies very heavily on what was not said in the state legislatures that passed on the Fourteenth Amendment. Instead of relying on this kind of negative pregnant, my legislative experience has convinced me that it is far wiser to rely on what was said, and, most importantly, said by the men who actually sponsored the Amendment in the Congress. I know from my years in the United States Senate that it is to men like Congressman Bingham, who steered the Amendment through the House, and Senator Howard, who introduced it in the Senate, that members of Congress look when they seek the real meaning of what is being offered. And they vote for or against a bill based on what the sponsors of that bill and those who oppose it tell them it means.”

    How about Alexander Hamilton’s writings or James Madison? Read the Jay Treaty.
    What constitutes ‘Natural Born’ is not some mystery; unless one wants it to be or does not wish to do their research.
    Is O a citizen? Yes, it would appear so. Is he Natural Born? No.

  • Paul Revere

    I believe the Navy Seals either shot someone other than Osama, a look alike and or they shot a corpse that had been taken out of the icebox!

    Re: Alex Jones & Aaron Dykes
    TheAlexJonesChannel
    May 12, 2011

    Alex Jones debunks the legacy of lies that fill the pages of the phony War on Terror narrative– killing bin Laden, 9/11, Iraq, all of it– in a special video address. This “war” which has consumed our society is nothing more than a dramatized narrative meant to frighten the simple, captive public into accepting greater societal control.

    Bin Laden was a strawman-villain concocted by the Western intelligence apparatus to take the blame for the orchestrated terror that is scripted and carried out by the globalist-allied factions. The Phantom Osama bin Laden was a skeleton key opening the door to foreign intervention in the middle east or anywhere al Qaeda might be. The motive is simple– ever-expanding wars for the military industrial complex, and the often more lucrative periods of reconstruction (i.e. you break it, you buy it). The occupation continues here at home with the creation of a police state supposedly meant to combat terrorism. Full article: http://www.infowars.com/55914/

    • BrotherPatriot

      Bingo…so happy to see other Patriots out there aware & doing their homework.

      God Bless.

    • Carlucci

      Thank goodness – a voice of reason. Thank you so much, Paul Revere, for posting that. It is exactly what I have believed and been saying for years. I think OBL was a patsy. And I also believe what British politician Robin Cook said when he revealed that Al Quaeda is a CIA data base – not a “group with a spokesperson”.

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    Chip Wood,

    Why don’t they give that thing a rest?Jobs and economy are the two most important things we need to come to grip with,not the birth certificate or proof that Bin Laden is dead.

  • B Polus

    Chip Wood: Great article on Obama birth certificate. However, you forgot to sic Mr. Trump on who signed and filed the legal death certificate on O. Bin Laden. Let’s not discriminate on this issue for posterity sake!!!.

  • Pappy

    Just the fact that this miscreant did not produce a VALID birth certificate in a timely manner is justification to impeach him. He has made this country a “laughing stock” as viewed by the world in general which is very happy to see the U.S.A. lose its credibility along with the possibility of losing reserve currency status. He has no respect for this great nation, as witnessed by his bowing, crotch saluting and his smug egotism. Instead of dealing with problems we face, he creates more turmoil with his deceptive ways and socialist thinking. His leadership in Washington is akin to a shopping spree with stolen credit cards. He has not accomplished anything meaningful and now his main goal is to get re-elected. His supporters treat him like a rock star but frankly, his music sucks. Removing this treasonist from office will be a step in the right direction

    • bohemian

      Yes, yes, yes – Thank You!

    • BrotherPatriot

      Agreed! Full support to remove the liar & usurper!

      • BrotherPatriot

        But let’s not stop there…bring it ALL out into the light…even the stuff that kinda hurts. In the end…everything, EVERYTHING will be OK.

        We just have to be tough & honest w/ourselves and GOD.

        We MUST start with the overall picture. Explain that it all interconnects with each other…the organizations and their Agenda.

        We must investigate, reveal & prosecute.

        America was founded by the secret society that now runs not just America but most of the world as well. Their is indeed a secret society called the Illuminati and they are interconnected with the Masons. Masons are in every country.

        They are the perfect “platform” to bring about the New World Order. If you don’t believe this…you simply live in the make believe world that they have created for you to live in.

        Begin your own research. Only the truth & GOD can save us.

  • WayneT

    I also have doubts that Obama’s birth certificate is valid. The reason I say this is because he had 2 years to produce it, but did not. If your employer. the American People in this case, wanted to see your birth certificate to see if you were serving the country legally you should want to show them that you are legal. He had 2 years to figure out how to produce a phony birth certificate. I beleve that some one in one of the top positions in Hawaii may have figured out a way to make up a phone bith certificate. However, with our technology today they could take what is supposed to be the original birth certificate and have the ink tested for age. What chance is some one going to do this though. I feel some one in the Hawaii government, maybe the top echlon, may be protecting Obama, and may have made up a phony birth certificate for him. Could it be the new governor of Hawaii who vowed to proved that Obama was legal to serve as out president? It would definitely have to be a high level official that would be capable of doing this.

    • mary bayer

      Wayne, I recall the new Hawaii governor’s claim that he would prove
      Obama is a citizen, then later admitted that he couldn’t find the
      birth certificate. Didn’t hear or read any followup to that admission, nor have I heard anyone questioning the “sudden” finding
      and releasing of the allegedly true B/C. But, who’s surprised?

      • WayneT

        Mary, you are right. I read that too. I was thinking about him as I was writing that last message. He would definately be in a position to do that. I wonder how many scary things we will find out about this president after he leaves office. People will then be more free to say things that they are scared to say while he is in office. I hear that Obama is very vindictive toward people unless they think the way he thinks. Isn’t that a crying shame to have a president where people can’t come out and speak the truth? Remember! the truth will set you free.

  • BDouglas

    We can ALL Agree? I don’t agree. What difference does it make? Read (and follow ) the Constitution. Nothing Chip Wood ever says again, will be read by me. Go find someplace else to live. I will be un-subscribing to personal liberty immediately!

    • WayneT

      BDouglas, I don’t know exaxtly what you are referring to as I just started reading this forum. If it is the truth, don’t let it scare you. Analyze, and check it out for yourself to see if it is the truth. If it is a lie, then you have a right to be mad.

    • JeffH

      Bye…don’t let the door hit you inthe as$ on the way out.

    • Sutekh

      BDouglas, you say that you won’t read anything by Chip Wood ever again.

      Since Chip Wood is a white man, I guess by liberal debating rules, we now are justified in calling you a racist.

      Obama is a liar, a traitor, and a promoter of absolute power of the state, but anyone who objects to what Obama he says and does is told that he is racist; ergo, anyone who calls Chip Wood a liar, must be doing so, not because of the nature of Wood’s statements and actions, but because of the color of Wood’s skin.

      You’ve earned the title “racist” yourself, according to Marxocrat debating rules, so enjoy it.

      Sutekh

      P.S. I don’t know what color you are, so when I call you a racist, that doesn’t automatically make me one, too.

      Sutekh.

      • Thamera

        love your logic Sutekh…so true!

  • DavidL

    I have two words for Chip Wood and all here who buy into his delusions…………..SOUR GRAPES!

  • Thor

    We are simply following the bouncing ball here. The fight for the Presidency is a tempest in a teacup. The real fight is at our universities where progressives are breeding more socialists, at our borders where liberal Democrats are importing more entitlement voters and in Congress where legislation leaches away at free market capitalism and Constitutional rights. Once we go into Soros’open borders’ mode, where the next President is born won’t warrant discussion. We need to be addressing more important issues–like, why is it that progressives want open borders for immigration but want to maintain those same borders for tax purposes and matters of sovereignty important only to them (like who pays for foreign aid)?

    • Vigilant

      Thor, you’ve truly hit the nail on the head!

    • WayneT

      My biggest issues toward Obama is this: He is a friend to Bill Ayers, the man who bombed Federal Buildings in the late 60′s & early 70′s; he sat in a church for 20 years while Rev. Wright blasphemed this nation. He is against oil, nuclear, and coal. We have used this form of energy close to 100 years. All of our machinery is set up to use this this type of energy. He gives, or loans, Brazil 2.5 billion dollars to drill in Brazil and tell them we will be their best customer. Excuse my language, buy why in hell would he give Brazil that much money to drill over there at the same time he stopped the drilling in this country. This does not make an sense to me at all. He wants to pass the “Cap & Trade” bill, which if passed, will nearly double our energy bills and will raise the cost of all other consumers goods. A person would have to be retarded to want a president that wants to take their money and give it to others who are too damn lazy to work. I could write a book on the retarded things this president would like to do that will destroy this country within a very short period. It is hard to believe there are still idiots out there who still supports a man like this.

  • Marie

    I don’t care what anyone else believes but, I am sick and tired of idiots playing the race card anytime anyone disagrees with the president. It shows a monumental lack of intelligence and the minute I see it in a comment I move on.

    • libertytrain

      You are correct – it’s gotten old -

    • JeffH

      Marie, I agree, no matter how cute and sneaky they think they might be, it’s worn out. A racist is a racist is a racist!

    • DaveH

      Marie,
      If we eliminated race-baiting, fabricated facts, personal attacks, and the other manipulative tactics employed by Liberals, they wouldn’t have anything left to say.
      There is no way their belief system could stand up to logical inspection, so they have no other choice.

  • Kurt

    Chip,
    Better fire your editor. Check out your paragraph 9. You state “shot Obama in the head – twice”. It was Osama of course. An easy slip with 2 names so close with only 1 letter different? A sad fact the our supposed President’s name is that similiar to the worst terorist on earth’s name.

    • libertytrain

      Kurt – that was a joke on TV a week or so ago, all the “important” newscasters and news sources saying Obama instead of Osama – both the Left and the Right making the same error, over and over again – It is an odd one –

    • DaveH

      The Libyans might wonder which terrorist you are talking about?

  • http://! Angel Wannabe

    To whom it may concern, Is there a problem with my last post?__Why is it “awaiting moderation”? That never happens!!

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      STILL Awaiting moderation???????

      • JeffH

        AW, that usually happens if there is more than one link in the comment.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Jeffh, Thanks, never had that happen, but I guess I never posted two links at once!

          • JeffH

            AW, it’s a pain in the u-know-what!

  • AliW

    Really???!!! Come on people give it a rest. I am so sick of both the right and left going off into outer space with some of the most ridiculous stuff. And what is even worse is that they can get so many people to believe all of the hype. Get off the conspiracy wagon and start getting the facts and use the brain that God gave you and THINK for once in your lives! Wow! I did not vote for Obama, but for crying out loud there are so many other issues going on in this world and this is the one that you think is important? I remember back when Bush was in office and people were speaking out against him and some were saying it was treason to speak out against the President in that way, and I have seen signs and effigy’s of Obama being burned and not one word is said about this being treason. There is a double standard here and it smacks of racism pure and simple. Just so you know, I am white and I am ashamed of how some people in this country are behaving. Grow up, grow a pair and see how you can be a part of the solution instead of perpetuating the problem.

    • Mick

      AliW says
      Really???!!! Come on people give it a rest.
      >
      >
      There is a double standard here and it smacks of racism pure and simple.
      *********************************************
      Racism ?? Take your own advice AliW, Give it a rest…….

    • MSSouth

      I think you lie about not voting for him. You rant just like a bleeding heart liberal. Are you a TROLL? I think you are!!! Shame on you for not standing up and telling the truth. Who do you think is going to believe anything you say.

    • Scott K.

      A clear case of “White Guilt.” Now that is a true Progressive. How sad…

      • JeffH

        :) you’re right!

    • DaveH

      AliW says “THINK for once in your lives! Wow!”.
      We are, AliW. We don’t believe a President who has lied repeatedly. You do. Who is the non-thinker here? It isn’t us.

  • Mick

    Whether Obama is legit or not shouldn’t even matter anymore because the damage to America is already done,,
    That alone without further ado should open many eyes among our society, the so called transparency the SOB ran on is nothing less than a murky swamp and his administration loaded with the disgusting creatures living in it.
    The strong country we once had is being decimated by the degenerates running our country and the same degenerates voting for them, when concessions are constantly made for any and every kind of criminals take over the right of the law abiding citizens the country is lost.
    So people you better start facing the fact that this administration, this democrat majority in the Senate and the rinos join in with the democrat’s sick agenda will soon come back to bite you in the A$$ and if you don’t wake the hell up in a hurry there will be NO TURNING BACK..
    2012 in right around the corner, you better think fast.

    • MSSouth

      You say, “it shouldn’t matter anymore”? Well that attitude can be carried over to “Why kill Bin Laden, what he did is over. It shouldn’t matter anymore”! I agree with most everything you have said but, really, this man is destroying our country and after the fact, “it shouldn’t matter anymore?”

      • Mick

        MSSouth says:
        May 13, 2011 at 8:52 am
        You say, “it shouldn’t matter anymore”? Well that attitude can be carried over to “Why kill Bin Laden, what he did is over. It shouldn’t matter anymore”! I agree with most everything you have said but, really, this man is destroying our country and after the fact, “it shouldn’t matter anymore?”
        %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

        MSSouth,, Until we work to show the people how crucial it is to remove the bastard and make sure he doesn’t get reelected we shouldn’t harp on the BC issue any longer, it is a distraction from the destructive policies he is sneaking while we all wonder where he was born..Even if it was proven that Obama isn’t a citizen, the democrats will somehow find a way to twist the constitution to make Obama shine and come out on top and I am certain that’s why Obama dragged this BC crap for so long, as a distraction to what’s really going on….Time will certainly divulge the truth about his true birth place.

  • Lostwages

    Nice write up Chip. But I must say that what your head is writing your heart is interfering with! The idea that you buy off on Obama’s birth place or that the Bin Laden killing was real is potently clear with all of the questions you poss in your article. I do not find most readers to be of the frame of mind that Obama is legally president. I think most still question either his birth place or his fathers lack of being a US citizen at the time of our carpet bagger’s birth. As for the Bin Laden, DC Comic’s unpublished special edition story, it is just that. It is my opinion, as many others that this treasonous comic book character died in December 2001, making him perfect for the part he has played for all these years, waiting to be played like a trump card in a poker game and Obama threw the ace! This move opening Pandora’s box for the next false flag event and an excuse for more heightened security across the nation!

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    Doctor Ron Paul is throwing his hat in the ring for president.I hope Mitch Daniells does like wise.We will have two good men in the race.Keep your fingers cross.2

    • Vigilant

      coal miner, what kind of BS are you trying to peddle now? You’ve consistently supported pro-union, socialist crap and now you decide to support Ron Paul?

      You’ve either had an epiphany and now have the ability to think straight, or you are just fishing. Which is it?

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Vigilant,

        I am still pro union.I got alot of respect for Dr Paul for his refusal to cross a picket line when they were on strike at a company.John L lewis was a conservative and he didn’t like government meddling in union affairs and he called Roosevelt a socialist.He openly campaign against him.You can still be Republican and you can still be loyal union person.

      • JeffH

        Vigilant, spend enough time underground and you’ll be confused too.

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          Jeffh,
          Go pray to your old master,you loyal old Joy of Satan discipe. For all of our sakes I hope you don’t bellow out that blood curdling Satanic chant.Brahhhhaah.
          Miner:

          • JeffH

            …speaking of poor memory…who is it that blogs regularly on the “Joy of Satan” website again? YOU, the cm, the “Dark Invader”!

          • Thamera

            Are you drinking when you post CM>?

  • Former Walmart person

    Even if we accept the premis of the war on terror, far more Americans die in car wrecks than from terrorist attacks. Where are the screams from the frightened sheeple to make the national speed limit 35 mph? Where are the organized predatro drone strikes against “evil” DMVs who let bad drivers on the road and “evil” car dealers who sell multi-thousand ton engines of destruction? Statistcally, until you reach a relatively old age, your own car is a DEATH TRAP compared to any other location you can be in America.

    The war on terror is about making us all slaves and giving up our freedoms. If the war on terror was truly about protecting lives and fighting bearded muslum cave men, then at the very least, our border would be sealed shut. We have shut down the border between North and South Korea, yet our own southern border is wide open. Something just isn’t right…

    • Lostwages

      The real War On Terror is just beginning! The American people waking up to thier terrorist government!

  • Tim

    There is the issue of an American Citizen living abroad for in excess of three years, particularly if you have assumed another citizenship,,,,,, kiss your American citizenship goodbye. Unless there are exceptional circumstances such as working for USA……

    My issue is that when he was on TV making those election promises I couldn’t not stop thinking of MAD’s Alfie. Wot – me? They were mutually exclusive scenarios. Now that he has had two years in power this has been proven and compromise has meant that they are all unobtainable.

    The core issues remain untouched. He is trying to fix society without the main ingredient – an economy to sustain it. Both freemarket and communism rely on an economy (however it is managed) as the key aspect of a nation, only Socialists and Facists work on society first then economy second.

    • WayneT

      Before you kinow it Americans will have to go to China to find work. Nice going Obama!!!

  • Tim

    oh – and for transparency promise…. that was a plain fib?

  • elizabeth

    Our economy and our freedoms are destroyed when we DON’T have an American president who does not share our values. That’s why it is important for presidential candidates to follow the LAW that requires them to be natural-born Americans with both American citizen parents. That is the LAW. iT IS NOT FUNNY. Americans do not want Hugo Chavez, Raul Castro or that bastard Obama desecrating this great nation and its LAWS. The traitor-in-chief should have nevver been allowed to run for president and should have never been allowed inside the White hOUSE. This isn’t rocket science.

    The term “birther” is an insult to every law-abiding American.

  • Ed

    Thought I would post a refutation. But what’s the use? Except for a few who try to introduce rationality, this blog is inhabited by people who have made up their minds and are not about to let facts confuse them or pry them from their entrenched bigotry. All you really want is to hear others who reinforce your own paranoia. Wallow in it if you will; I have more productive ways to use my time, such as throw my support behind President Obama, probably the best president this country has seen since FDR.

    • BOB

      ED: DID FDR.SELL OUT THIS COUNTRY TO THE MUSLIMS AND ILLEGALS FROM MEXICO?? DONT THINK SO.WAS OBAMA BORN IN THE US TO US CITIZENS? NO WAS OBAMA BORN IN KENYA PROTECTORATE OF GREAT BRITAN?YES.WAS OBAMA ADOPTED BY LOLO SOETORO INDONESIAN CITIZEN? YES.IS OBAMA ELEGIBLE TO BE POTUS? NO IS OBAMA DESTROYING THIS GREAT COUNTRY? YES HOW’S MY TRACK RECORD SO FAR 100% CORRECT!!!! YOURS 100% INCORRECT!!!

    • Scott K.

      Ed,

      For GOD’S SAKE, PLEASE, PLEASE get your medication checked!

    • clara boyer

      Ed…I totally agree with you…President Obama is probably the best President this country has ever had. Unfortunately America has been dumbed down by Fox (Faux) News and the religious right. Leave it to them and we will be a third world contry before too long with just a few millionaires controlling our country. It is a shame….hopefully most American citizens have more sense than the mority of people on this site.. OBAMA 2012!!

      • Vigilant

        HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA (TAKE A BREATH) HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.

        BEST president we ever had? Thanks for the comic relief.

        • Jovianus

          When it all flushes out, if Obama keeps the pace, he’ll rank the top 10 or thereabouts. And that would be if he fails to bust up the “too big to fail’ financial businesses.

          He’ll easily outdistance Reagan as future histroians review presdiential caliber and time distances itself into more of a realistic snapshot of cause and effect. By far. Of course, Reagan will fall below every president but Bush II so that’s not an very high hurdle to overcome.

          • JeffH

            ROFLMAO! …bust up the “to big to fail financial busiesses”?

            Like the ones that donated heavily to him? Lehman Brothers, the Citadel Investment Group, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan Chase?

            I suppose the next thing parting your lips will be how he’ll reign in the public unions like the SEIU, NEA, AFSCME,American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees who donated even more than the big financiers?

            Do you ever stop to thunk what you say? That’s right, you actually believe what you say!

            I’m still LMAO!

          • Thamera

            uh huh…of course with revisionist history and the liberal content of the MSM that could be a possibility…after all you they sure have you lapping at his feet now. Again, Jovi, what is it that YOU do?

      • jibbs

        You make my belly hury, LOLOLOLO…….I think I’m gonna pass out!

    • Shaul

      So Sad…

    • WayneT

      Go ahead, Mr. Ed. Support a president who want socialism, higher prices, no energy for this counry, but it is ok every where else. Especially in Brazil. You had better wake up Ed. I know that you use energy in some form or another. I also know your grocer bills are going up, up and up along with your gasoline and all other consumer goods. Yep! you sure are a smart man, Mr Ed. Keep up the good work.

      • Dan az

        Wasn’t there a serial on tv way back when the was called Mr Ed?What makes your lips move?I hear its feeding time at the trough hurry stop wasting your time here now go!

        • Vigilant

          Dan,

          You asked Mr. Ed, “What makes your lips move?”

          Answer: flatulence (he’s talking out of his backside).

          • Dan az

            LOL!

    • combatvet

      Have you always been brain dead or is this a sudden development. What world are you living in………the best president since FDR, who by the way was significantly flawed. You boy is a sub-human fraud and you……well, there is no accounting for your level dementia.

    • JeffH

      …more productive thinks to do…like eating a carrot or a few sugar cubes? Yeahhhh Willlburrr!

  • Timothy Blocksom

    I respectfully disagree with most of what has been said regarding any falsehood of President Obama…as an american I truly believe that negative comments breed more negativity. He is the President and he will continue to be for the next two years…maybe more once the public realize the truth about our past dictator Mr. George Wrong Bush and how he along with his regime tactfully destroyed many American values…you along with many others should be ashamed of his term(s) as President. He did preside over the really big DENT into our country…wise up and be supportive rather than distructive.

    With due respect,

    • Lostwages

      All we need is for you to do a list of what we should respect him for. One or two words should cover it! Thanks

      • Mick

        Lostwages says:
        May 13, 2011 at 9:02 am
        All we need is for you to do a list of what we should respect him for. One or two words should cover it! Thanks

        *****************************I Like your style Lostwages and am in total accord……..

      • Mick

        Al Sieber says:
        May 13, 2011 at 6:32 pm
        I’m with you Lastman, I’m working 24/7 out here in the Ariz. desert mining gold and silver and I’m not giving anything up to the Govt. they can come and try and take it, I’m mining lead also.

        ****************************************
        Good morning Mr.Oatman man….
        Wouldn’t mind some of that gold and silver but the lead probably will become more usefull if this government insanity continues much longer…

    • Scott K.

      Tim,

      With all due respect, you need therapy… To site Dr. Michael Savage, “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.” The sooner you come to terms with that fact, the sooner you will get well. I will pray for you my brother.

      • Dennis Patrick

        To equate opposition to your views as a mental disorder is rather childish, don’t you think?

        • libertytrain

          In all fairness, that’s the usual approach the libs use on the conservatives on this site; that and calling the conserves racist. The basic two arguments from the left that I have observed for over a year now…

        • Vigilant

          DP says, “To equate opposition to your views as a mental disorder is rather childish, don’t you think?”

          Much more than opposition, sonny. It’s called “failing to acknowledge facts and figures, the lessons of history, and common logic.” It’s called, “retreating into a childish race card tactic whenever the argument turns against you.” It’s called “immersing yourself in a cause for the sole reason that you find company amongst other losers.”

          It’s called, “blindly following a teacher or professor without cross-checking facts, hooting conservative speakers off stage because they might teach you something of value.” It’s called “voting for a president because of liberal guilt or some trendy idea of shadow over substance.” It’s called “ignorantly doing everything in your power to invalidate the Constitution by sidestepping its provisions when it suits you.” And it’s called “self-absorption to the point that you vote for the pimping politician rather than looking at what’s best for the nation.”

          Next question…..

    • jibbs

      Timothy Blocksom says:

      I respectfully disagree with most of what has been said regarding any falsehood of President Obama…as an american I truly believe that negative comments breed more negativity. He is the President and he will continue to be for the next two years…maybe more once the public realize the truth about our past dictator Mr. George Wrong Bush and how he along with his regime tactfully destroyed many American values…you along with many others should be ashamed of his term(s) as President. He did preside over the really big DENT into our country…wise up and be supportive rather than distructive.

      With due respect,
      **********************************************************************

      Speaking of negative comments, you stated that, “Mr. George Wrong Bush was a dictator”. Thats the “pot calling the kettle black” That makes you a “hyp-o-crite”
      Good job.

    • combatvet

      News flash, your not an American………a sellout, yes. Bush was bad, I agree but he served in the military and was a natural born citizen. Your girlfriend Barry is none of the above, he’s a composite drawing of a host of non-related, unsupportable, systematic lies. You on the other hand are one of the reasons America is in a rapid decline! You, sad to say, are in the minority and either have your head in the sand or are just a result of an altered DNA sequence. Either defines you as stone dumb!

  • http://www.michael-mcdermott.ws Michael McDermott

    Let’s move on and stop this non-sense. We have more important things at issue, and the President is trying to address them and get us to move on them as well, but instead we sit here picking apart things that have already been solved and holding us from moving on into a better future. Of course I agree he should have documents to prove for his job, just like all of us other Americans have to prove when we seek a job (even as a simple clerk) one has to prove by documents (via passport, Drivers License or State ID, full background and credit check)( just for a clerk position in a non-official environment. So in essence, why shouldn’t our Commander and Chief adhere to the same rules and even more? However, we have to move on and stop muddling around in the mud as this takes up time and energy which could be spent on more important issues like (the devaluation of the dollar, inflation, our freedoms, health-care), etc.

    Also, Bin Laden has been dead for years. He had a disease called Maren’s (spelling unsure) and he also was on a renal machine. He died sometime back in 2004. Why is it that all of these conspiracies are abound and the theories that go with them? Because each day, more and more people distrust the government because of past mistakes and flaws– because we tend to believe everything we see and hear in the media (tv, cell phones, the news, streatming, radio, newspapers), when they are the ones that have kept the truth from us and continue to do so. Let’s move on and get our country back in shape.

  • James

    As to Obama’s eligibility to be the president, a Federal District Court in California has held that a sitting president can only be removed from Office via the impeachment process provided in the Constitution. At that trial, Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate was introduced into evidence, but the court said that argument should have been made when Obama became a candidate. After election a sitting president can only be removed by impeachment.

    • Scott K.

      James,

      While I agree with much of your statement, as a College Professor I would like to make clear for all readers that the term “impeachment” in and of itself does not mean the removal from office. In fact, the opposite can be true. Impeachment simply means that someone has been brought up on formal charges. Example: Clinton was successfully impeached, but was never removed from office.

      • smilee

        That’s because they failed to prove the charges of the impeachment, no president has ever been removed from office including both whom where impeached, both were political in nature and not in fact.

        • Dan az

          smilee there is always a first time.

        • Vigilant

          smilee,

          You’re wrong, sonny, and you know it. Your statement, “That’s because they failed to prove the charges of the impeachment” is pure leftist myth.

          It was proven the Clinton put his hand on the Bible, swore to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and then committed perjury. Only in the minds of the Democrats did that not qualify as a high crime.

          The vote went purely along party lines, proving that the Dems have absolutely no respect for the rule of law.

      • James

        Scott K., I agree, but here, if President Obama’s impeachment trial were to prove that he was not “a natural born Citizen” (Art. II, Section 1, Cl. 5) then removal from office would be mandated.

    • WayneT

      Most likely a very Liberal, extreme judge. What can you expect from a judge in California.

  • Brett Maverick

    Chip;
    You don’t seem to know much about the birth certificate issue.
    You keep refering to the document that was produced recently (April I think) and displayed on the White House web site as a “Certificate of Live Birth” (short form) when it was actually a long form birth certificate(after analysis is just another fake). However, others here are right, that by his own admition his father was born and raised a citizen of Kenya. So that means B.O. is not a Natural Born Citizen and will never be eligible unless he pays off yet another judge to overlook the constitution again.
    Obama is a Liar in Cheif

    • smilee

      WHOSE ANALYSIS ?????????????????????????????????????????????

  • Dennis M. Ellis

    THEY BURIED OSAMA BIN LADEN’S BODY IN THE
    SEA, HOW CONVENIENT!

    On Sunday night (April 30)around 10:50 central time, during the Geraldo Rivera, FOX TV broadcast, the show was interrupted to await an announcement from the Obama administration concerning important foreign events.
    We the viewers were told that Obama had asked for TV-air time to
    address the nation. The story was leaked (by someone on Obama’s staff)
    so that by the time he appeared, (45 min. later) we already knew that OSAMA BIN LADEN was KILLED by our Navy Seals!
    After channel switching between FOX, CNN, ABC etc., I was struck by
    the commentary of the news media, describing how brave Obama
    was for having ordered our brave military personnel into harms way!
    There was gratitude expressed by the network news, for the skill and
    precision our military personnel demonstrated during the raid. But
    again the news media kept expressing their admiration about how
    fearless and brave of Obama to decide to send in troops (on the
    ground) rather than just drop bombs from a stealth fighter.

    NEWS FLASH TO THE LIBERAL
    MEDIA:
    OBAMA WAS NEVER IN DANGER!

    The focus of the coverage should have been about the danger our troops
    were exposed to, and how well they performed during the fire-fight and successful conclusion of the mission. But no, the Obama-Mania-Mediahad to dwell on the fact that it was courageous of Obama to place his political career in jeopardy, by ordering the raid.

    This just once again (refreshed my memory) demonstrates that the Main
    -Stream-Media are nothing but cheerleaders for democrats and
    especially for their democratic president! Reality & Truth mean nothing to them!
    That’s why I only watch FOX NEWS when ever I want the truth!

    I’m glad that Obama used our troops to kill Osama Bin Laden. But the
    fact is HE USED OUR TROOPS for political gain. Our troops were used
    as a political ploy to advance Obama’s re-election campaign.
    How, you ask can I make this claim? Obama has known, since last
    August 2011, that Osama Bin Laden was in the million dollar complex
    in Pakistan; and could have killed or captured him AT ANY TIME!

    For the past 10 days Donald Trump has been in the news asking for
    Obama’s long form birth certificate. The pressure (to release the B.C.) was so intense that Obama finally caved (04-27-11) and released a forged document. Experts (from around the world) have already verified the numerous ways the Obama forged birth certificate is FAKE. All indications were that on the following Monday, “THE SHIT WAS GOING TO HIT THE FAN!”

    But on Sunday evening the news was announced that our military finally brought Osama Bin Laden to justice; the American people are
    (distracted) thrilled, happy, celebrating and grateful (rightfully so)! The story about the forged birth certificate is off and is replaced with “OBAMA KILLS OSAMA!” The American people should be proud of our military heroes. The American people also deserve to have a president who they can be proud of.

    SO THE QUESTION IS: DO WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO HAS
    EARNED OUR RESPECT?

    I could spend the next hour listing Obama’s behavior and actions, since he was elected. The 2700 page Obama-Care bill that was forced on the American people. Everyone knows how terrible the unemployment
    is, the economy is (home fore-closures & $5 per gal GAS & high food
    prices) and how Obama and his fellow democrats have made
    everything worse because of their SOCIALIST policies. Obama did one
    thing right, but for the WRONG reason.

    OBAMA WANT’S TO BE RE-ELECTED AND HE’S TRYING TO
    USE A MILITARY SUCCESS TO DO IT!

    Did I mention that both of Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificates are FAKE?
    The COLB (certificate of live birth) was proved fake (from the very
    beginning in 2008) but the MSM (main-stream-media) ignored the truth.
    The new so-called long form certificate is FAKE, and here’s why:
    THE TOP TEN REASONS WHY OBAMA CAN’T BE PRESIDENT!

    10.) Obama and his half-sister Mayo, both have Hawaiian COLB’s. But,
    Mayo was born in Indonesia! This demonstrates that any foreign born person can get a COLB and not be born in HAWAII!

    09.) Obama’s mother was only 18 years old, and was not of legal age to
    transfer American citizenship to Obama.

    08.) Obama’s father was a British citizen (born in Kenya) and was never an American citizen.

    07.) Obama is not the president because both of his parents (plural)
    weren’t American citizens.

    06.) The CONSTITUTION requires that both parents of an off-spring must
    be natural born citizens, to prevent the child from having DUAL CITIZENSHIP or dual allegiance.

    05.) Both of Obama’s parents had to be physically born on U.S. soil
    (or one of it’s territories) in order for them to be classified as “NATURAL BORN” citizens.

    04) Obama’s forged long form birth certificate reveals that, in 1961 (the race) a typical black person would be listed as NEGRO (as the race of the father) and his white mothers’ race would have been listed
    as CAUCASIAN. But…Obama’s fathers’ race is listed on his so-
    called birth certificate as AFRICAN. That was never done in 1961.

    03.) A woman in Hawaii examined Obama’s fake long form birth
    certificate, and noticed that the sequence number (on BHO’s B.C.)
    doesn’t match the birth date. She released her own long form B.C.
    which shows her birth date to be three days after Obama’s birth
    date. That means that her sequence number would be higher,
    because she was born 3 days after Obama. BUT on Obama’s birth
    certificate: HIS SEQUENCE NUMBER IS HIGHER THAN HERS!

    02.) Where is the official embossed gold seal that all Hawaiian birth
    certificates had on them in 1961. Obama’s is MISSING!

    01.) The name of the hospital, Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological
    Hospital’s, that is listed on Obama’s FAKE 1961 birth certificate, is
    the same hospital he says he was born in BUT; the hospital had a
    different name (in 1961) and it’s name was Kauikeolani
    Children’s Hospital. The name of this hospital was changed, in
    1978 to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital. Obama
    couldn’t have been born in this named hospital in 1961!!!!

    DOES IT APPEAR THAT OBAMA HAS EARNED
    YOUR TRUST AND RESPECT?

    • Scott K.

      Dennis,

      Your presentation of the facts has certainly earned my respect. They address many specific and mutually exclusive issues. I would urge you to add your list of facts to every political Web Discussion Board you can find.

    • Jovianus

      As to the 01) comment…and we don’t need to go past there as far as the truthfulness and accuracy issue on this latest diatribe…

      This court thought the hospital existed

      70 F.2d 793 (1934)
      KAPIOLANI MATERNITY AND GYNECOLOGICAL HOSPITAL
      v.
      WODEHOUSE et al.
      No. 7026.
      Circuit Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit.

      April 10, 1934.
      794*794 E. C. Peters, of Honolulu, T. H., and Orrin K. McMurray, of Berkeley, Cal., for appellant.

      A. G. M. Robertson, A. L. Castle, A. Withington, and J. G. Anthony, all of Honolulu, T. H., for appellees.

      Before WILBUR, SAWTELLE, and MACK, Circuit Judges.

      WILBUR, Circuit Judge.

      This is an appeal taken from the decision of the Supreme Court of the territory of Hawaii rendered upon an agreed case submitted to that court in pursuance of sections 2371 to 2374, inclusive, of Revised Laws of Hawaii 1925. The parties to the agreement are the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital and Ernest H. Wodehouse and James L. P. Robinson, executors of the will of Mary E. Foster, deceased. The facts agreed upon by the parties may be briefly summarized as follows:

      The Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, which will be hereinafter referred to as the “Maternity Hospital”

      • jibbs

        That still won’t make his mother old enough to pass on citizenship to berry, and it still won’t make his father a natural born citizen of the U.S. Daddy was a British citizen.

  • Carol

    Two things rule this world…Sex and MONEY!
    And, it’s the MONEYf that has installed this radical muslim fraud inour White House!!! Saudi and Soros’ money has helped propel Obuma into the highest position in the land. He’s totally incompetent, inexperienced and obviously resentful of white people.
    I don’t care WHERE on earth he was born, he’s the worst President we’ve ever had. I fear for my children and grandchildrens’ future in America. Obuma will destroy it. Are there ANY good Republican’s out there to start screaming already? Do we have to continue to depend on Donald Trump to get things done? It’s a pity how our politicians have let us down for their own survival in office. They are all on the dole taking hard-working taxpaying citizens money. It’s sickening.
    This country will have to revolt for anything to effectively change anything at this point.

    • karolyn

      Carol, How on earth do you come to the conclusion that Obama is resentful of whites when his mother was white and he was raised by white grandparents? What has he done for you to think this?

      • Thamera

        It has come out of his very own mouth karolyn…you shouldn’t be so shocked…

        • Karolyn

          Well, obviously, I haven’t heard it Thamera. What exactly did he say?

          • Thamera

            Actual quote from “Dreams from My Father” [pg. xv]: When people who don’t know me well, black or white, discover my background (and it is usually a discovery, for I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites)….

            Actual quote from “Dreams from My Father” [pg. 100-101]: To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed necolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society’s stifling constraints. We weren’t indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated. But this strategy alone couldn’t provide the distance I wanted, from Joyce or my past. After all, there were thousands of so-called campus radicals, most of them white and tenured and happily tolerated. No, it remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.

          • Karolyn

            Thamera – lol – Sounds like any one of thousands of college students, especially of the 70s and 80s. Give me a break!

          • Vigilant

            Karolyn,

            Yeah, you would laugh at that, wouldn’t you? Name me one other candidate or recent president who has had a past like that. Or who started his political career in Bill Ayers’ living room, or who appointed openly communist czars. etc., etc.

            Past is prologue, and in failing to recognize what doesn’t fit your neat perception of things, you have done what most leftists do: you suspend common sense, awareness of cause and effect relationships and make up your own “reality” to suit you. There’s a word for that: it’s called “dishonesty.”

          • Thamera

            wow Karolyn, words out of his own mouth and you laugh at that? And that is just a “snippet” of what he has wrote and espoused. Maybe you should become a little more familiar with his so called Marxist friends then you might know something… Oh, but of course you would know exactly what was going on in the 70′s and 80′s in your drug induced haze, eh karolyn…especially as a college student that you NEVER WERE! LOL…perhaps it’s just a college thing then to attend a church such as Rev. Wright’s as well??? Give me a break..your true colors are clearly showing…pathetic and sad.

          • Thamera

            “Past is Prologue” well said Vigilant. karolyn makes the perfect sheeple. No wonder Americorps brought her on board…

          • Karolyn

            Vigilant – How do you know any of the other politicians didn’t have a youth that was just the same, especially those of his age?

          • Thamera

            Seriously karolyn? How do you know? Quite well actually…how much scrutiny does any political candidate undergo let alone the ones that get elected clear down to who “puffed” and who “inhaled”. And Obama doesn’t reject any of his past karolyn…he embraces it and continues with the same relationships today!

          • Karolyn

            Thamera – So???? Many people maintain friendships throughout their lives even though circumstances and people change.

          • Vigilant

            Bill Ayers is still a radical leftist, Van Jones is still a communist, the Rev. Wright is still a Black Theology wacko, Anita Dunn still admires Mao Tse Tung, Dr. Berwick still calls health care “redistribution of wealth,” Cass Sunstein still thinks animals have a right to legal representation in court, Sotomayor still thinks affirmative action is Constitutional, etc., etc.

          • Thamera

            Oh, okay karolyn,you are so right. I will have to remember that when my daughter, a recovering alcoholic and drug addict, thinks it might be a good idea to maintain friendships with the same people she is trying to distance herself from in order to become a better individual free of drugs and alcohol. Lady, you are frightening and obviously like living in DENIAL.

            Not that it will do any good since you obviously like remaining ignorant but you might want to consider the following quote:

            “Be careful the environment you choose for it will shape you; be careful the friends you choose for you will become like them.”
            W. Clement Stone

  • Robert N. Edwards

    When is the court system going to define what the term in the Constitution means when it requires the President to be a “natural born citizen”? How is a natural born citizen different from just a normal born citizen? Courts previously have considered the “natural born” to mean that both parents must have been born citizens of the United States. The term must have been used to make sure that dual alliance to two countries would not be an issue with a person serving as President. We have seen Obama give great attention to the country of Kenya.
    However, we need this term clairified since we live in such a vast society of mixed nationalities. For example, I have one daughter-in-law who is from Seoul, Korea. I feel that my grandson should not be eligible for President since I know how much she will teach him about Korea. Our President should not have instilled alliances that would cause him/her to favor one foreign country over another and who would have relatives and friends in that country seeking favortisms.
    Obama is not a “natural born citizen” since he has a father who was never a citizen of the United States.
    Should we ignore the term in our Constitution? If we do, then we may end up with a greater problem on down the road.

    • smilee

      YOU ARE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION BUT IT IS JUST THAT AND DOES NOT DEFINE THE CONSTITUTION AS YOU WOULD LIKE IT TO BE, WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION IS IT DEFINED AS YOU SAY??? DO YOU BELIEVE THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT CHANGED IT IN ANY WAY???

      • Vigilant

        A little short on reading comprehension, are we? He didn’t define it as much as saying the courts need to clarify. And why the shouting (all caps)? Are you deaf?

      • Thamera

        Perhaps you could define the constitution for us Smilee? LOL

  • John Chase

    O.K., lets get a few things straight. The question of Obama’s birth is only one of a whole series of lies and fraud characterizing the man’s entire life. His whole career is a series of lies. The reason he hasn’t been exposed is that he has been very careful to cover up his past. Then, too, his backers are very clever at setting forth a myth
    about the man; a smokescreen. His past is obscure, but not entirely out of reach. You just have to be a sleuth to unveil it. Obama is an enemy agent, sent here to destroy America. I know this truth is too harsh and dire for the average citizen to swallow, but we have to wake up before it’s too late.
    Obama came to this country under an assumed name. He obtained a bogus social security card in Connecticut, while residing in New York.
    He was never an American citizen. He was awarded a scholarship to Columbia University as a foreign student. He never attended classes, yet received a degree. He enrolled at Harvard through the assistance
    of the Saudis, who not only paid his tuition, but gave Harvard a huge
    sum of money in return. He was part of the militant black movement in
    Chicago, which has the most notoriously corrupt political machine in the Nation. He didn’t get into Politics because of his brilliance or
    because he had any sort of qualifications, but because he had the backing of the radical, corrupt, left-wing zealots. The man is a Marxist through and through, which is why so many are baffled by his actions and attitudes. “He just doesn’t get it,” they say. Well, my friend, I hate to have to tell you, but it’s WE who just don’t get it!
    He is perfectly consistent with his Marxist philosophy. Of course it
    clashes with American values; it was meant to! Obama is the Trojan Horse of Communism. Hey, he is here..don’t you get it?

    • Scott K.

      John,

      Fantastic post! I want to believe everything you say, I really do. I subscribe to the exact view that you have articulated. However, the problems I find with many of these posts are the same. They lack sufficient evidence. Irrefutable proof makes one’s argument strong, and in some cases bulletproof. If you can site some factual credible sources to support your statement, you will have an army behind you.

      • Hoonahman

        Obama, like Osama were creations of the CIA. The information on both is out there. UBL’s CIA asset name was Tim Osman, when he was working with the CIA during the Russian/Afghan war. The whole Bin Laden family is tight with the US government and shady organizations like the Caryle Group, along with their pals the Bush Family, who are also founding members.

        As for Obama (Barry), his first job out of Columbia was with Business International Corportation (BIC) which was a known CIA front company.

        Google this stuff. Like I said, all the info is out there hiding in plain sight, just look for it and follow the trail down the dark rabbit hole of deceit. It is an unpleasant thing to realize you have been duped by your government, but on the positive side you will be happy to no longer be a one of the sleeping American “sheepeople.” Good luck.

        • BrotherPatriot

          Good job…Hoonahman.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Ralph J

        The facts can be found in a book called “The Obama Nation”
        Published in 2008. Go to Amazon or one of the other internet book stores to get it.
        Ralph J

  • Polski

    Why is everyone complaining about Obama? Everyone knows that DUBYA is NOT a US citizen. He was born in Texas.

    • jibbs

      and labama said we had 57 states in the Union.

  • JNCSMOM

    OK – We all know: Obama is a racist, a socialist, a muslim, the birth certificate is probably phoney, Bin Laden may be dead, out to destroy and bankrupt our great country, ignoring our constitution, in another war, not concerned about the economy or jobs, fuel prices going higher, need I go on?? Immigration, healthcare, – I could go on – but it’s not going to help. What’s getting done is NOTHING. We can sit around all day long and bitch about it, tear it apart, bitch about it again. We all know the problems, so what are we going to DO about it? What’s the solution?? I keep hearing IMPEACH, ARREST – And there he is – still residing in OUR WHITE HOUSE!! I have written numerous letters and e-mails, made more phone calls than I can count, sent faxes, and donated more money than I can afford. Obama IS going to win a 2nd term if we don’t do something NOW!! He has been campaigning since the day he was sworn in. And if he wins a 2nd term – there will be no turning back. Too bad the American citizens don’t have the right to DEMAND this president to be impeached or stand down.

    • smilee

      dEMAND ALL YOU LIKE IT ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!

  • Ronald, Maryland

    When you say your prayers tonight, ask the LORD to heal the insanity of liberal minds.

    • Eddie47d

      After we wade through all the insanities of the right wing minds. LOL

    • Scott K.

      Amen

  • Holden VanStern

    you people are sick.

    • karolyn

      Stick around and you will be floored by some of what you read. Of course, you kinda get used to it, more’s the pity.

  • http://none Norm

    lOOK , THIS CREEP IS PRESIDENT. IF THE SUPREME COURT WOULD DO IT’S JOB INSTEAD OF WORRYING THAT IF THEY THROW HIM AND HIS SOCIALIST/COMMUNIST LAWS OUT;THE BLACKS WOULD REVOLT,TO BAD.
    THIS CLOWN IS A DISASTER.ON THE RACIST THING.MOST OF US HERE WOULD VOTE FOR HERMAN CAIN.WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ? ARE WE RACIST AGAINST BLACK WITH WHITE AND ONLY WANT A PURE BLOOD BLACK?
    THOSE WHO SUPPORT OBAMA ARE BRAIN DEAD.WE DO NOT ACCEPT HIM BECAUSE HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE’S DOING.
    HE NEEDS TO GO IN 2012 OR OUR WOMEN WILL ALL BE WEARING FULL BURKAS.

  • Hoonahman

    I can get your naive, statist, kool-aid drinking, “don’t look behind the wizards curtain”, simpleton, dribble at any number of liberal web sites, like Huffington Obama Post, for example. So I’m asking myself why I should renew my subscription to Personal LIBERTY Digest when your writings seem to go against the beliefs of most of your LIBERTY thinking readers. I suggest you get of your butt and DO SOME RESEARCH before you throw a bunch of your “lamestream” blather at us, your LIBERTY minded readers, who do their research and are too informed to buy into your pathetic pablum offerings.

  • Nancy

    What I want to know is why the birth certificate is brushed off as un-important. If it had been taken more seriously from the beginning then we would not have him as our president. It makes it seem as though anyone could run, and it that how we want to become. Everyone keeps saying we have more important problems, well we may have many of these problems if we did not have the President we have right now. Common sense whould tell you, that if he lied about his birth certificate then what else will he lie about. If we ever followed through on this problem he most likely will not be running again.

    • smilee

      He didn’t lie about his birth certificate and your free to believe he did but the evidence is overwhelming that he didn’t and facts count your feelings that are contrary to the facts do not

  • Dennis M. Ellis

    PROVING THE QUALIFICATIONS AND ELIGIBILITY OF OUR
    PRESIDENT IS DEFENDING OUR CONSTITUTION!

    THERE IS A SILVER BULLET SOLUTION!

    One constantly hears the phrase “WE DON’T HAVE A SILVER BULLET” to fix the high gas prices, the poor sales in the housing markets, or the economy in general, from Obama and his talking heads in his
    administration.

    I’m a PACC-Man (Patriot American Christian Conservative) and As a PACC-Man, I’d like to point out a “SILVER BULLET SOLUTION” is in our grasp.

    There is no issue as important to every American as their own
    actual, physical safety and wellbeing!

    How safe would any citizen feel if they knew absolutely for certain that the leader or president of their nation; was an illegal alien, and possibly an enemy agent for a foreign government.
    How could any American TRUST such a leader? How could any American feel safe with such a leader?
    Such a leader(an illegal alien)would be a proven LIAR! Such a leader would be a FRAUD. Such a leader would be a CRIMINAL!

    SUCH A LEADER WOULD BE INELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT!

    SUCH A LEADER WOULD NOT LEGALLY BE OUR PRESIDENT!!!!

    OBAMACARE WOULD INSTANTLY NOT BE LEGAL, BECAUSE IT WAS SIGNED BY AN ILLEGAL ALIEN!

    THE LAST TWO SUPREME COURT JUSTICES, APPOINTED BY THIS SAME ILLEGAL ALIEN WOULD IMMEDIATELY LOSE THEIR JOBS.

    THE ATTEMPT OF BANNING AMERICANS FROM HAVING AND POSSESSING FIREARMS, BY THE ABUSE OF EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY, WOULD IMMEDIATELY CEASE!

    THE ATTEMPT OF GRANTING AMNESTY AND UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, PLUS WELFARE (AND VOTING-RIGHTS)TO 15 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS; THROUGH THE ABUSE OF EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY WOULD CEASE!

    THE EPA WOULD LOSE IT’S AUTHORITY TO TAX YOU WHEN YOU BREATH, BY EXHALING CARBON DIOXIDE OR RECTALLY EXPELLING GAS. THIS WOULD IMMEDIATELY KILL THE CAP N TRADE FRAUD THAT IS BEING USED TO SKYROCKET THE COST OF AMERICA’S ELECTRICAL SUPPLY!

    ALL OF THE ILLEGAL ALIEN’S CZARS (30-60)WOULD IMMEDIATELY LOSE THEIR JOBS!

    IN FACT EVERY BILL, SIGNED INTO LAW BY THIS ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINAL PRESIDENT WOULD IMMEDIATELY BE AS ILLEGAL AS OBAMA IS!

    Even after Obama loses the next election, there will still be liberal democrats in our congress who will fight tooth and nail to stop the repeal of OBAMACARE AND ALL OF THE OTHER SOCIALIST-COMMUNIST
    POLICIES THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE SUCCEEDED IN RAMMING DOWN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S THROATS!
    IT WILL TAKE YEARS (BY THE TEA PARTY PATRIOTS IN CONGRESS) AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, TO UNDO THE DAMAGE THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE SUCCEEDED IN DOING IN JUST THESE LAST TWO!

    BUT WITH OBAMA BEING REVEALED AS A FRAUD AND AN ILLEGAL ALIEN, WHO WAS AIDED AND ABETTED, BY THE DEMOCRATS & THE LIBERAL NET-WORK-NEWS; THERE WILL BE SUCH A PUBLIC OUTRAGE DIRECTED AT THE PEOPLE WHO ALLOWED THIS DANGEROUS FRAUD TO HAPPEN, THAT OBAMA WILL BE FORCED TO RESIGN; OR THE DEMOCRATS WILL BE FORCED TO IMPEACH OBAMA TO
    SAVE THEIR OWN JOBS!

    WE PACC’S HAVE A SILVER BULLET SOLUTION IN OUR GRASP.
    WE ONLY NEED THE COURAGE TO USE IT!!!!

    WHAT IS THE “SILVER BULLET SOLUTION” YOU MIGHT ASK?

    USE ALL AVAILABLE SPEED & RESOURCES TO PROVE THAT THE
    CURRENT OCCUPANT OF THE WHITE HOUSE IS AN ILLEGAL ALIEN!
    AND THEN FIRE HIM AND JAIL HIM ALONG WITH THOSE WHO MADE
    THIS FRAUD/TREASON POSSIBLE!

  • http://n/a John Beach

    If the end (getting Bin Laden) did not justify the means (waterboarding prisoners at Gitmo) then why didn’t they abandon the search for him in keeping with the disqualification that our police forces frequently suffer due to a technicality? Consistency has never been a liberal strength, needless to say, and I guess we will just have to allow this one to pass, recognizing that, although injustice may have been done, it is the means by which it was done that is important and the justifiable end that redeems the unjustifiable means. The justification for indecision on their part is now more comprehensible than ever and I will be surprised if we do not see more deliberation in the future. They must love it though, otherwise why would anyone want all that power?

    • smilee

      They never waterboarded anyone at Gitmo, that was done in dark prisons in europe

  • JC

    So who is Barry Soetoro?
    If the “genuine” Birth Certificate says Barack Obama…then who was the kid who was receiving funding as a foreign student in a California school?

    If it look like BS and smells like BS….

    • smilee

      Where’s your proof of this, we know you have none and are just repeating the far right radical propaganda

      • WayneT

        Smilee, where is the proof that George Washington was our first president? We have only read about this. Could it be what the left wing, or the right wing only wants us to believe and mayb George Washington was not our first resident? I am just pointing out how ridiculous you sound when you make statements like this. Most of us only know what we read, or hear unless it happens within our midst.

        • Jovianus

          Actually, GW was not the first President of the United States. He was the first presdient of the United States as formed by the current Constitution. The following is from The Straight Dope as linked by Snopes.

          ” Washington was the first president of the United States under the Constitution of 1789… but the United States declared its independence 13 years before that. In 1777, the Congress adoped the Articles of Confederation, which were ratified by the states in 1781. Later that year, this new legislative body convened and elected John Hanson “President of the United States in Congress Assembled.” Hanson had been a member of the Maryland assembly and the Continental Congress, where he played a key role in convincing Maryland to adopt the Articles of Confederation (Maryland was the only state opposed.) Washington sent Hanson a letter of congratulations on his “appointment to fill the most important seat in the United States.”

          There were seven other Presidents who served under the Articles of Confederation, now forgotten by all except the most trivial of historians.

          In May of 1787, a convention met in Philadelphia with the task of amending the Articles of Confederation; the Articles had proved unworkable. Instead of mere amendment, the convention exceeded its authority by drafting up a whole new document, the Constitution. In March of 1789, Washington was elected first President; John Adams, with the second highest number of votes, became Vice President. “

          • Thamera

            OMG and you expect anyone to take you seriously ever again Jovi? Cecil Adams is where you get your info. from – seriously? Ahhahahahhahahaha The man that “knows all”.. LMAO..enuf said. You might as well be getting your answers from Chacha…great for trivial pursuit but that’s about it…You are the dope Jovi…wow. And again, why don’t you let us all know what it is that YOU do????

          • JeffH

            Jovi-commie, nice try but no cigar!

            The correct title for John Hanson was “President of the Continental Congress” not president of the United States. Under the Articles of Confederation, the United States had no executive branch; the President of Congress was a mostly ceremonial position within the Confederation Congress. I would imagine that the next deception you’ll attempt to execute will be that John Hanson was the first “black” president.

  • BOB

    HOLDEN:PLEASE GIVE YOUR DEFINITION OF SICK: DO WE HAVE A COLD,THE FLU,A STOMACH VIRUS,TIRED OF BEING LIED TO RIPPED OFF,DENIED OUR RIGHTS?.WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SICK I ASK ???

  • marymack

    I believe NOTHING from anyone in DC, except Ron Paul.

  • marylu

    I pray that the hand of GOD touches Obama in a way that he has an epithany and sees the evil in what he is doing. How can you justify shooting someone between the eyes and not recognize that using enhanced interagation gave us the ability to shoot between the eyes and ask no questions.

    • bohemian

      (offensive post removed)

  • Sheople Proof

    And pigs can fly too.

  • http://none Norm

    Wait until Obama dies and goes to his Muslim heaven and sees how ugly,and I mean ugly, those 72 virgins are.Some of them were born men and have never changed their organ.

  • jopa

    Time for a reality check.Was Lady GaGa born here and now an American citizen? I saw on national TV where she came out of an egg.She hatched and was therefore not born, so is there a birth certificate or a hatch certificate.This issue needs to be resolved immediately so write to your congressman and see how he or she stands on this issue.

    • WayneT

      Jopa, your getting more dumb by the day.

  • Dorothy Jones

    Well, I know someone that changed her name later on in life, but they would not allow her to change it on her birth certificate and she had the money to do it. I also keep thinking about the couple million he spent to keep his birth certificate hidden from the public. I also seen an interveiw that was done with his grandmother who lived in Hawaii and she stated she remembered flying from Hawaii to Kenya for his birth. They showed this interveiw one time and that was the end of it. His grandmother in Kenya says he was born in Kenya. None of his family in Hawaii really seems to know which, where or what time he was born in Hawaii. So what the heck. As far as Bin Laden goes all Obama did was carry out Bushs’ policy and plan. I am thinking lately though that his grandmother in Kenya is going to be trying really hard to get to move to this country. She has been on T.V. a few times lately over supposedly threats made to the family over Bin Ladens death. I also find it strange that they came out and said that Bin Laden had planned to kill Obama. Sounds like something to use for political purposes, campaign purposes or sympathy. Anyway I do not really care because I did not vote for him and I will not vote for him this time. Actually if you think about it neither side in the last election or in this election has anyone worth voting for as president. It is like a big joke being pulled on all of the people of America. We should ask ourselves is this all we got, is this the best we can do, this is it? It seems we are just scraping the slime and the scum up off the sidewalks.

    • smilee

      He released his BC in 2008 before he spent any money defending it and no money has been spent as you say, what he has spent is legal costs defending himself against these frivolous law suits of which about 70 have been dismissed. One lawyer was even fined $20,000.00 for filing a frivolous law suit. You will believe any garbage if it fits your bias

      • Dorothy Jones

        Excuse me when I look at the facts and there have been a lot of Americans that have seen the facts and know them. I don’t call that garbage or bias. You seem to say a lot and yet say nothing at all.

        • Thamera

          You nailed that one Dorothy, spot on! I would include Jovianus in that comment as well…good one.

        • smilee

          Sorry But at least 70 courts disagree with you, feel free to let your biases be your guide I will stick to the facts

          • Thamera

            Just so you aren’t confused smilee, I was referring specifically to Dorothy’s comment that you say a lot without saying anything at all…fits you to a tee :D

    • WayneT

      Dorothy, these Liberals would believe Obama over his grandmother. Of course his grandmother would not have had any reason to lie, Obama does.

      • karolyn

        How do you know she wasn’t paid off?

      • Jovianus

        Karolyn..this one is a hoot. Here’s where the wacked gets this one.

        There was a telephone interview. Part of it is on right wing and birther websites. You can listen to the misleading questions asked of the translator who is transalting for the grandmother..who is ancient, aged and feeble.

        He replies back with a comment and the interviewer twists it and jumps all over it. The version the wacked use is cut right there. Turns out you hear seconds later the transaltor…obviously not in good command of English anyways..is stating ‘no no that’s not what she said !’.

        So they’ll grasp at straws on this one too. They never quit looking for new areas to lie about…gotta give ‘em credit for perserverance finding new areas to lie about.

  • http://ObamatheFirst Bob M

    On the subject of the birth certificate, my take is that he didn’t release it for so long because it takes a while to make a really good forgery. I’ve no proof but it sure is funny that no one searching the archives from the time he was elected could ever find it and suddenly when pressure starts to be applied some little flunky in Hawaii suddenly goes “Oh, here it is!”

    On the subject of bin Laden, this burial at sea thing is going to come back to bite us in the butt. I can allready envision a tape being sent to some news office somewhere stating that bin Laden is alive and well with a picture of a look-a-like holding a current newspaper, I mean one bearded scraggly in a turban looks like every other one. They’re going to say that if bin Laden is dead then produce the body as proof, “Oh, sorry, we buried it at sea, but here are some pretty pictures of a man with his face shott off.”

    • smilee

      Quite an imagination you have albeit weird!!

      • Thamera

        Quite often, truth is stranger than fiction…

        • smilee

          Are you really trying to convince me Bob is telling the truth??

          • jibbs

            You are nothing but a FOLLOWER! You never say anything on your own that has any substance, but rather drag on the coattails of others, never the Truth, never a link to your info. Like a flea or tick that rides on a animals back, crasping for a free meal.( piece of dung)

          • Dan az

            smilee is nothing more than a mushroom,you keep it in a dark room and just feed it $hit.Look how well they have done!

          • jibbs

            Sorry to change the subject, read this. Indiana residents have no right to refuse illegal police entry to their home, The USA as we know is gone.

            Court: No right to resist illegal cop entry into home
            StoryDiscussionCourt: No right to resist illegal cop entry into home
            By Dan Carden nwitimes.com | Posted: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:36 pm | (123) Comments
            Supreme Court ruling in Barnes v. State
            INDIANAPOLIS | Overturning a common law dating back to the English Magna Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Hoosiers have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.

            In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer’s entry.

            “We believe … a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence,” David said. “We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest.”

            David said a person arrested following an unlawful entry by police still can be released on bail and has plenty of opportunities to protest the illegal entry through the court system.

            The court’s decision stems from a Vanderburgh County case in which police were called to investigate a husband and wife arguing outside their apartment.

            When the couple went back inside their apartment, the husband told police they were not needed and blocked the doorway so they could not enter. When an officer entered anyway, the husband shoved the officer against a wall. A second officer then used a stun gun on the husband and arrested him.

            Professor Ivan Bodensteiner, of Valparaiso University School of Law, said the court’s decision is consistent with the idea of preventing violence.

            “It’s not surprising that they would say there’s no right to beat the hell out of the officer,” Bodensteiner said. “(The court is saying) we would rather opt on the side of saying if the police act wrongfully in entering your house your remedy is under law, to bring a civil action against the officer.”

            Justice Robert Rucker, a Gary native, and Justice Brent Dickson, a Hobart native, dissented from the ruling, saying the court’s decision runs afoul of the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

            “In my view the majority sweeps with far too broad a brush by essentially telling Indiana citizens that government agents may now enter their homes illegally — that is, without the necessity of a warrant, consent or exigent circumstances,” Rucker said. “I disagree.”

            Rucker and Dickson suggested if the court had limited its permission for police entry to domestic violence situations they would have supported the ruling.

            But Dickson said, “The wholesale abrogation of the historic right of a person to reasonably resist unlawful police entry into his dwelling is unwarranted and unnecessarily broad.”

            This is the second major Indiana Supreme Court ruling this week involving police entry into a home.

            On Tuesday, the court said police serving a warrant may enter a home without knocking if officers decide circumstances justify it. Prior to that ruling, police serving a warrant would have to obtain a judge’s permission to enter without knocking

  • Michelle

    I have no doubts, even a child can see the problems with that suppossed long form bc that he insists on calling it.
    In OH I have a copy of my long form, it is very much like the Nordykes from HI. I also have a Cert of Live birth, it has almost no info on it, less then his alleged colb. mine has no raised seal, but a watermark in its place. It is absolutely legit. When he purports that this his is LONG FORM BC , it is certainly BS. HI has and still does provide long form BIRTH CERTIFICATES. He can get his dirty mitts on it if he so choose. He obviously for some *reason* chooses to continue to play the fools for what they choose to be. Blind sheep. All of us on both sides of this issue are being played.
    Sorry am not calling names. It is just a fact. PLEASE any one who thinks this is real, even if you choose to not believe experts, look at Oniko’s stamp. Do you really think an official would allow a *typo* (txh instead of the) to be allowed? Especially on a document of this import?
    I would really like a believer to factually tell me why that would be acceptable.
    To me it is another deliberate attempt to show us what fools we are to believe anything out of this White House.
    Go ahead and call me a racist, I am white, like it matters, and i resent he denyies his whiteness as if he has to make a deal about being part (8%?) black. I would be offended if i were an Arab too as he is 42% Arab. Those numbers are of course only true if Obama is his daddy. If someone else is, and he lied about his daddy too then maybe he would be 1/2 white, 1/2 black. I tend to see him as Very much Arab, he has the features more so then an African Negro. Oh shoot me if I am using the PC incorrect descriptions of race. Why do have to classify race anyhow????
    You pull the race card, I prefer the trump card. Well, at least I did, but he seems to have been shut up. Yes, i could be interpeted as a paranoid, but I pefer TRUTH. No labels please, just honesty. Why does he insist on messing with ALL of us? Those who choose to believe his crazy stories that change on a dime are being played too. he and his handlers are laughing at us all.
    I would love to hear a logical explanation regarding the x in the word the.

  • Vern B

    Did Chip just state that obama was a “native born” citizen. Since the Supreme court has stated that there is a clear distiction between native and natural born citizens and Article 2 requires that the President be a “NATURAL ” born citizen. obama is not nor never be the President of the United States unless he can prove both his parents were U.S. citzens at the time of his birth.

  • BrotherPatriot

    I’m simply stunned that Mr. Chip Wood actually is willing to swallow the hook, line & sinker of what the MSM is feedin us. For some reason…I feel that I expect more from him since he writes for this site.

    I value this site. I have learned a great deal here as well from my independant research. I’m just a falible human being trying to find my way. To learn the truth of what is really going on and who is making our world the way it is. It’s a very jumbled, messed up equation. But an equation that definitely has human hands all over it…with intention.

    Our world is the way it is for a reason…these “elitists” or “Overclass” have a agenda and like a math equation it all adds up if you take the time to research up the facts.

    Here is a link to sumtin you all should check out. Believe it or not but take into account who the speaker is…his background…what he is saying and WHY he is saying it. His name is Dr. Steve Pieczenik.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXPg4yblXM0&feature=related

    I am a former Navy SEAL. I am very proud of my team mates and honor all that they have done, are doing and will do. They truely are amongst the best of the best…however, I do not believe the story(ies) that are coming from the white house are the truth. I believed that Osama was dead years ago…if we wanted to find someone…our intelligence & technology will allow us to find them…Period.

    Continue diggin for the truth my brothers & sisters…it’s not what the MSM is feeding you. You must go to outside sources as our MSM is owned by the Overclass and say only what they are told to say. They no longer are an unbiased news source & haven’t been doing their job for a very long time.

    Damn Bankers.

    God Bless us all & brace us for what is coming.

    • combatvet

      My son n law was a Navy Seal and he has said the same things you have. Myself, I am a Vietnam vet, Army, honorably discharged Oct. 31, 1971. I am ready to serve again to take this nation back for the people and to preserve the Constitution as the law of the land. I took an oath to support and defend it and have always honored my oath. Barry is without a shadow of doubt a fraud, his actions speak to that, his refusal to produce his records except a series of poorly forged BC’s support the thesis that he has no cultural connection to America. Therefore he’s not a NBC nor does he have the respect of any of our allies or world leaders for that matter. He’s made laughing stock of America, I know I have strong connections throughout the world as I was the founder of an international company and my contacts are still strong. To a man they consider this situation in America a joke and they know, as the truth about Barry the fraud is readily known over seas. Even Kenya has written legislation declaring him a Kenyan, born of the soil, now president of the US.

      I know Bill Clinton is riding high, he’s no longer the liar in chief, his title has been taken by Barry who makes Bill look like an honest man. Everything about Barry (his real name) is a lie. He has never written anything in his life then all of a sudden two books, really? The first one was admittedly written by the true American hater Bill Ayres in interviews he has given. This is the greatest fraud ever perpetrated upon America support by a dedicated Communist MSM and criminals in both parties. the majority of which are Democrats (asses), their party mascot fits them well!

      Those of us who served, who honor our oaths and who know the trouble we’re in must stand together by the millions and take America back. Thanks for your service BrotherPatriot!

      • kilrntex

        Combatvet, I too am a Vietnam veteran who took that oath for life. I just found a website called (www.vidol-america.org). Check it out. These people seem to be serious about ridding the country of the evil people running it. karolyn made a smartass comment one day about starting a website to go to DC and restore our constitution. I don’t have to now. Finding veterans who think likewise has been as easy as lining up liberals in the crosshairs. It’s a great day to be a patriot!

  • Doug Rodrigues

    I have a Hawaii Birth Certificate issued before Obama’s was. On the internet are two Hawaii birth certificates issued a few days after Obama’s was, which look identical to mine. Obama’s doesn’t look like my certificate or the certificate issued three days after his? Why is that? Was a special birth certificate produced just for Obama, and no one else, way back in 1961? The present “proof” of Hawaii birth appears to be a modern form filled out with a 1960′s era typewriter. It is what it is. I don’t have to make this up. That being the case, the certificate shown as “proof” is a fake.

    • siteunseen

      Good work! I agree 100%

    • smilee

      You might be have a chance to be believed if you posted yours for us to compare, The state of Hawaii has verbally and in a letter verified its authenticity in addition to that being on the BC themselves. Sorry, but a statement of such weight from Hawaii far out weighs you simple statement here

      • Thamera

        Yes, because state officials cannot possibly be corrupt…neither is there corruption at the federal level…they are in fact as “pure as the driven snow” eh Smilee? hahahahahahaha

        • smilee

          Sure they can be corrupt but honest people require facts to prove that before determining that, you however follow your biases and the truth and the fact be damned

      • ValDM

        Good Grief!!! You’re so gullible, that if I told you a steaming pile of Excrement was meat loaf fresh from the oven, you’d belly up & take the first bite.

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          ValDM,

          Good Grief!!! You’re so gullible, that if I told you a steaming pile of Excrement was meat loaf fresh from the oven, you’d belly up & take the first bite.

          We got enough bullsh**t on this site.Will that do?You take the first bite.4

          • Thamera

            I think you’ve already done that CM…for everyone…LOL

    • Jovianus

      Doug…wanna post yours ?

  • Dorothy Jones

    Oh yes, I would like to give a heads up and a fair warning to the people of America. Arnold Schwarzenegger stated one time not to long ago that he would like to be President. I would hope that all people know that he was not born in the United States of America.

    • smilee

      He admits it so why shouldn’t we believe it

  • Vietnam Vet.

    This is what both sides in Washington wants us arguing over things that are not going to change things. we need to focus on the improtant things and hold their feet to the fire. Did anyone notice that China is now purchasing wheat from us maybe corning the market in a year marked with great floods and posibly short supply (better than buying U.S. bonds that they already have plenty of) and they are using our money that they earned form our debt that we owe them.

  • BW

    My question is… how could someone even RUN for President without having shown proof of birth in the US?

    • smilee

      He did so what is your real beef??

      • BrotherPatriot

        LawL

      • Thamera

        Smilee says “baaaaaa” great little sheeple you are Smilee.

    • ValDM

      A better question is how did he run for the Senate without the same proof? It was Illinois, where the thugocracy says “Proof? We don’t need no stinkin proof.”

      • Gary

        only qualification for Senator is age of 30, been nine years a citizen of the US, and be an inhabitant of that state

        • smilee

          Ah! Someone here who actually reads the Constitution

          • Thamera

            Like you have Smilee? That’s laughable.

  • Aix Sponsa

    Please allow me to make a sweeping general statement:
    “What a whiney bunch of pisspots.” as Curley said.

    Look at this, look at that, what is happening here?, what is happening there?……. It’s a shell game to keep eyes off the real action.

    The probablility of this administration being in power for another 5 1/2 years plus a socio-economic collapse of unprecedented proportions….. might it be true that life as we know it ends after 2012?

  • Sadr City

    This country did not achieve the greatness it had (before the impostor moved into the Whitehouse with half his entire family grubbing on our tax money) by listening to weak excuses people had “for everything.”
    Not long ago U.S. citizens had courage enough to stand up for our way of life. Such a shame. I was privy to countless conversations between members of our great military while in Iraq for two years, and men and women both seemed to feel hopeless at times on what we were really doing there while the impostor put us down.
    HELL, the impostor DID NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE “CORPS” in MARINE CORPS.
    he pronounced it as CORPSE.
    Look, we all knew the impostor was a snake from the beginning, but fools voted the snake in, now WE MUST VOTE HIM OUT.
    And we will all have to contend with the weak fools among us defending him because of him being the snake he is until he is gone.

  • nw

    I think we need to practice some islamic justice and cut their tongues for lying and clean house and boot them all out. Give me Liberty or Give me death! Dennis Ellis for President

  • siteunseen

    Interesting article, very amusing, but I don’t believe Obama gave a real Certificate of Live birth, nor that Bin Laden is dead. Why? Getting lots of info on the Certificate of Live Birth, that it doesn’t jive with a real “Certificate of Live Birth” as the number is not in accordance with those who were born before or after him. Also, there are other reasons of which I don’t have time to list. Let’s point to the Bin Laden Death. #1. I know he wasn’t in Pakistan 2 years ago, he was in SAudi Arabia in the House of the Saudi King, being treated for a long illness. How do I know this? Have a friend whose Father took care of him. He’s from The Philippines and was given the job of taking care of him. Hush..hush..of course. Also… No picture…no buy! Also…stories of how he was killed keep changing. But to dispose of the body? That’s funny. Look up the article on google entitled, without quotes “What if Obama and Bin Laden are connected” It’s a real eye opener. It’s 100% true, even though my friend doesn’t spell very well. Chow for now.

  • Dennis M. Ellis

    Anyone know if there is any validity to this story?

    PASTE THIS LINK INTO YOUR WEB BROWWER TO VIEW THE ORIGINAL STORY.

    socyberty.com/issues/white-house-insider-obama-hesitated-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

    White House Insider: Obama Hesitated – Panetta Issued Order to Kill Osama Bin Laden “What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him -and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound.”

    Note: This update comes some 24 hours after our longtime Washington D.C. Insider first outlined shocking details of an Obama administration having been “overruled” by senior military and intelligence officials leading up to the successful attack against
    terrorist Osama Bin Laden. What follows is further clarification of Insider’s insights surrounding that event.

    Q: You stated that President Obama was “overruled” by military/intelligence officials regarding the decision to send in military specialists into the Osama Bin Laden compound. Was that accurate?

    A: I was told – in these exact terms, “we overruled him.” (Obama) I have since followed up and received further details on exactly what that meant, as well as the specifics of how Leon Panetta worked around the president’s “persistent hesitation to act.” There appears NOT to have been an outright overruling of any specific position by President Obama, simply because there was no specific position from the president to do so.

    President Obama was, in this case, as in all others, working as an absentee president.

    I was correct in stating there had been a push to invade the compound for several weeks if not months, primarily led by Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, David Petraeus, and Jim Clapper. The primary opposition to this plan originated from Valerie Jarrett, and it was her opposition that was enough to create uncertainty within
    President Obama. Obama would meet with various components of the pro-invasion faction, almost always with Jarrett present, and then often fail to indicate his position.

    This situation continued for some time, though the division between Jarrett/Obama and the rest intensified more recently, most notably from Hillary Clinton. She was livid over the president’s failure to act, and her office began a campaign of anonymous leaks to the media indicating such. As for Jarrett, her concern rested on two primary fronts.

    One, that the military action could fail and harm the president’s already weakened standing with both the American public and the world. Second, that the attack would be viewed as an act of aggression against Muslims, and further destabilize conditions in

    the Middle East.

    Q: What changed the president’s position and enabled the attack against Osama Bin Laden to proceed?

    A: Nothing changed with the president’s opinion – he continued to avoid having one.

    Every time military and intelligence officials appeared to make progress in forming a position, Jarrett would intervene and the stalling would begin again. Hillary started the ball really rolling as far as pressuring Obama began, but it was Panetta and Petraeus
    who ultimately pushed Obama to finally act – sort of. Panetta was receiving significant reports from both his direct CIA sources, as well as Petraeus-originating Intel. Petraeus was threatening to act on his own via a bombing attack. Panetta reported back to the
    president that a bombing of the compound would result in successful killing of Osama Bin Laden, and little risk to American lives.

    Initially, as he had done before, the president indicated a willingness to act. But once again, Jarrett intervened, convincing
    the president that innocent Pakistani lives could be lost in such a bombing attack, and Obama would be left attempting to explain Panetta’s failed policy.

    Again Obama hesitated – this time openly delaying further meetings to discuss the issue with Panetta. A brief meeting was held at this time with other officials, including Secretary Gates and members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but Gates, like Panetta, was unable to push the president to act.

    It was at this time that Gates indicated to certain Pentagon officials that he may resign earlier than originally indicated – he was that frustrated. Both Panetta and Clinton convinced him to stay on and see the operation through.

    What happened from there is what was described by me as a “masterful manipulation”

    by Leon Panetta. Panetta indicated to Obama that leaks regarding knowledge of Osama Bin Laden’s location were certain to get out sooner rather than later, and action must be taken by the administration or the public backlash to the president’s inaction would be “.significant to the point of political debilitation.” It was at that time that Obama stated an on-ground campaign would be far more acceptable to him than a bombing raid. This was intended as a stalling tactic, and it had originated from Jarrett.

    Such a campaign would take both time, and present a far greater risk of failure. The president had been instructed by Jarrett to inform Mr., Panetta that he would have sole discretion to act against the Osama Bin Laden compound. Jarrett believed this would further delay Panetta from acting, as the responsibility for failure would then fall almost entirely on him. What Valerie Jarrett, and the president, did not know is that Leon Panetta had already initiated a program that reported to him -and only him, involving a covert on the ground attack against the compound. Basically, the whole

    damn operation was already ready to go – including the specific team support Intel necessary to engage the enemy within hours of being given notice. Panetta then made plans to proceed with an on-ground assault. This information reached either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates first (likely via military contacts directly associated with the impending mission) who then informed the other. Those two then met with Panetta, who informed each of them he had been given the authority by the president to precede with a mission if the opportunity presented itself.

    Both Gates and Clinton warned Panetta of the implications of that authority – namely he was possibly being made into a scapegoat.

    Panetta admitted that possibility, but felt the opportunity to get Bin Laden outweighed that risk. During that meeting, Hillary Clinton was first to pledge her full support for Panetta, indicating she would defend him if necessary. Similar support was then followed by Gates. The following day, and with Panetta’s permission, Clinton met in private with Bill Daley and urged him to get the president’s full and open approval of the Panetta plan. Daley agreed such approval would be of great benefit to the action, and instructed Clinton to delay proceeding until he had secured that approval.

    Daley contacted Clinton within hours of their meeting indicating Jarrett refused to allow the president to give that approval. Daley then informed Clinton that he too would fully support Panetta in his actions, even if it meant disclosing the president’s indecision to

    the American public should that action fail to produce a successful conclusion. Clinton took that message back to Panetta and the CIA director initiated the 48 hour engagement order. At this point, the President of the United States was not informed of the engagement order – it did not originate from him, and for several hours after the order had been given and the special ops forces were preparing for action into Pakistan from their position in Afghanistan, Daley successfully kept Obama and Jarrett insulated from that order.

    This insulation ended at some point with an abort order that I believe originated from Valerie Jarrett’s office, and was then followed up by President Obama. This abort order was later explained as a delay due to weather conditions, but the actual conditions at

    that time would have been acceptable for the mission. A storm system had been in the area earlier, but was no longer an issue. Check the data yourself to confirm. Jarrett, having been caught off guard, was now scrambling to determine who had initiated the plan.

    She was furious, repeating the acronym “CoC” and saying it was not being followed. This is where Bill Daley intervened directly. The particulars of that intervention are not clear to me beyond knowing he did meet with Jarrett in his office and following that meeting, Valerie Jarrett was not seen in the West Wing for some time, and apparently no longer offered up any resistance to the Osama Bin Laden

    mission.

    What did follow from there was one or more brief meetings between Bill Daley, Hillary Clinton, a representative from Robert Gates’ office, a representative from Leon Panetta’s office, and a representative from Jim Clapper’s office. I have to assume that

    these meetings were in essence, detailing the move to proceed with the operation against the Osama Bin Laden compound. I have been told by more than one source that Leon Panetta was directing the operation with both his own CIA operatives, as well as direct contacts with military – both entities were reporting to Panetta only at this point,

    and not the President of the United States. There was not going to be another delay as had happened 24 hour earlier. The operation was at this time effectively unknown to President Barack Obama or Valerie Jarrett and it remained that way until AFTER it had already been initiated. President Obama was literally pulled from a golf outing and escorted back to the White House to be informed of the mission.

    Upon his arrival there was a briefing held which included Bill Daley, John Brennan, and a high ranking member of the military. When Obama emerged from the briefing, he was described as looking “very confused and uncertain.” The president was then placed in the situation room where several of the players in this event had already been watching the operation unfold. Another interesting tidbit regarding this is that the Vice President was already “up to speed” on the operation.

    A source indicated they believe Hillary Clinton had personally made certain the Vice President was made aware of that day’s events before the president was. The now famous photo released shows the particulars
    of that of that room and its occupants. What that photo does not communicate directly is that the military personnel present in that room during the operation unfolding, deferred to either Hillary Clinton or Robert Gates. The president’s role was minimal,
    including their acknowledging of his presence in the room.

    At the conclusion of the mission, after it had been repeatedly confirmed a success, President Obama was once again briefed behind closed doors. The only ones who went in that room besides the president were Bill Daley. John Brennan, and a third individual whose identity remains unknown to me.

    When leaving this briefing, the president came out of it “.much more confident. Much more certain of himself.” He was also carrying papers in his hand that quite possibly was the address to the nation given later that evening on the Bin Laden mission. The president did not have those papers with him prior to that briefing. The president then returned to the war room, where by this time, Leon Panetta had personally arrived and was receiving congratulations from all who were present.

    In my initial communication to you of these events I described what unfolded as a temporary Coup initiated by high ranking intelligence and military officials. I stand by that term. These figures worked around the uncertainty of President Obama and the repeated resistance of Valerie Jarrett. If they had not been willing to do so, I am
    certain Osama Bin Laden would still be alive today. There will be no punishment to

    those who acted outside the authority of the president’s office. The president cannot afford to admit such a fact. What will be most interesting from here is to now see what becomes of Valerie Jarrett. One source indicated she is threatening resignation. I find that unlikely given my strong belief she needs the protection afforded her by the Oval Office and its immense powers to delay and eventually terminate investigations back in Chicago, but we shall see.

  • Eddie47d

    Chip stated that without interrogation “Bin Laden would still be alive today” I assume this is an attempt to give G Bush credit for interrogation techniques that were used on Khalid Sheik Mohammed. This person supposedly gave up the name of Osama’s courier. Not true so there are more false rumors floating around that people take as facts. Khalid actually gave false information on the courier which actually hindered the CIA in finding Bin Laden. The couriers name (al-Kuwaiti) came from a detainee in another country who was never tortured. Thus the Bush/Cheney mantra that torture is an excellent method of gaining useful information is bogus and their cowboy attitudes made it harder to track down al Qaeda. This false information from this torture sent the CIA in a different direction and they didn’t have a clue that Osama was transferred into this new compound in Abbotabad.

    • smilee

      John McCain has an article in today’s paper that says they did not get that information from Khalid Sheik Mohammed nor from waterboarding but from an unnamed person whom was not tortured through normal interrogation means. The knew who he was but not where he was they first got that lead last august and it came from an intercepted phone conversation. Funny how the do not want to give Bush any credit for the economy and its aftereffects that we are still living with but want very much to include some credit for him in this action while all the time telling us over and over again not to blame him as he is no longer the president. They can not have it both ways.

  • Robert Hauser

    Yes, Blockhead…you most likely believe in fairies and elves and leprechauns and god knows what else….in the three years of unmitigated ass-dragging and stone walling that the Obama regime has engaged in re his spawn site, I could have produced a seven dollar bill that would have been more convincing. If you would go to the nominal effort of downloading what was officially released by the Blight House of the so called “long form” of his “certificate”, you will, even without any formal training as a document analyst, be able to spot more holes in that damned thing than you’d find in the window screen of a Beltway whore house. A careful examination of this “birth certificate” of YOUR prez would lead any federal grand jury to conclude that Soetoro’s seven year old daughter, Sasha, forged it in school as a class project.

    And as far as the seal team killing a man who has already been dead for ten years, I am sure you were swinging upside down by your knees from the chandeliers in delirious glee over that as well.

    • smilee

      The state of Hawaii has verbally and in a letter verified its authenticity in addition to that being on the BC themselves. Sorry, but a statement of such weight from Hawaii far out weighs you simple statements here

      • BrotherPatriot

        Icecream or Pens…

      • Thamera

        “baaa” @ smilee

    • BrotherPatriot

      LoL

  • clara boyer

    I am so proud of our President Barack Obama…he is intelligent, reasonable and a statesman. However, I have never been so ashamed of the majority of people that post on this site. What a group of idiotic un-American knuckle dragging morons. This country has degraded to the point that some people are never going to grow up. You all are going to leave this earth as dumb and unimformed as the day you were born. At least back then you were innocent…now you are just ignorant. President Obama is going to be my President for four more years…even though none of you deserve to have him be your President..he will be yours, too. Get over it! Hey..try to turn off Fox (Faux) News once in a while and use your brains.

    • Thamera

      Statesman Clara? Care to elaborate?

      • smilee

        The truth never need elaboration

        • Thamera

          You know, I ask this same question of people like you and Clara..Jovi etc. all the time and never get an answer…one might presume that you don’t know what a stateman is…LOL (as is evidenced)

    • http://personalliberty.com ken

      this guy is a total faurd and you have no respect for your country once you lose your fredom you will never get it back it will be to late its ignorant people like you that have this country in the shape its in how about that hope and change all you will have is the change and no hope

    • kilrntex

      Surely you jest! People, this is what we are dealing with trying to communicate with robots and liberal educated species. UnAmerican? Go find a history book before liberal animals started changing the truth and see what an American is! Obama supporters are worse than Hitlers. It took Hitler a few years to brainwash his supporters, but Obama did it in six months. There can’t be that many stupid people to reelect this poor excuse for a human being. The whole regime needs to be prosecuted and hung for crimes against this nation. Cut the freebies, welfare and all other entitlements to lazy parasites and make them work like the rest of us. Drug test everyone on welfare.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Why are you lying about the people who post here? How do you know they watch FOX? How are you able to be everywhere and know everything about everybody.

      • JeffH

        …doesn’t that comment kinda remind you of smilee, Jovi-commie or 47Stupid?

  • Aix Sponsa

    I often use this illustration:
    I take two ball point pens, each of a different color, say white and red.
    I say, “Here’s two pens, different colors, different words on them, but they do the same job.” gesturing- “Here, pick one.”

    When the person picks one, I ask, “Who picked that?” They always say that they did. I say, “NO, I DID. I gave you the choice. I determined the ultimate outcome.” To which they sometimes argue.

    Then I say, “White or Red, Republican or Democrat, What difference does it make?”
    Sometimes you can see the light come on in their head.

    • BrotherPatriot

      Agreed…I use the term…”ice cream”.

      Same thing…different flavors.

      God Bless.

      P.S. I do like your analogy with the extra bit about controlling their choice, however. :)

    • smilee

      THAT’S A JOKE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

      • Thamera

        “baaa”

  • Don B.

    If Obama was born in Hawaii, how did he attend school in Kenya
    with his father, as a natural born citizen of Kenya??
    What does his PASSPORT show??

    • smilee

      Your more mixed up than most on this site, even they know he never lived in Kenya

    • http://personalliberty.com ken

      no one knowes

  • http://Verizon Bud G.

    Chip:

    If you look at the you tube offering regarding where Obama was born, it will resolve where he was born and coming straight out of President Obama’s mouth and also his wife.

    On you tube with the title “Not natural born – truth matters”, he clearly states he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii so his own admission proves the Certificate of Live Birth and the long form are in fact forgeries. Can’t get any more plain than this.

    What will be done about this? Probably nothing since nobody has the intestinal fortitude to bring it out and the Liberals will continue along with their head in the sand believing Obama is their leader and in the end reality of what he is doing will smack them in the face and their wallets.

    • smilee

      Sucker Doctored up videos tell no story correctly.

      • Thamera

        OH…so videos can be “doctored” but not birth certificates or photos, eh Smilee? LMAO

        • smilee

          Sure they can but are you then suggesting that is what Vital Statistics department of the State of Hawaii did, that is the question not the one you raise

        • http://personalliberty.com ken

          sure they can just like news articals of him being born in hawaii years ago you could walk in to a shop at fair or carnival and write your own headlines an have it printed nuff said

  • Diane

    My question was Obama’s father a US Citizen? I have read that to be a natural born US citizen, which is required to become president, is that both parents at time of birth are US citizens. Can someone enlighten me on this subject.

    • BrotherPatriot

      Speaking in complete layman’s terms…which is all that I can do…

      Your question is the rub of the problem, Diane. The people who support Obama disbute the definition of what a “Natural Born” citizen means.

      My understanding is that BOTH parents must be citizens in order to have a child who could then be a valid candidate for the highest office of our land…the US Presidentcy.

      If either the certification of live birth or the long form birth certificate presented by Obama were authentic (highly doubtful that either one is legit) then that is enough to invalidate Obama as a President hopeful…much less become elected. Then evade the truth and block the truth by using legalise & money. All of which Obama and his handlers have done. In my humble opinion…I believe the truth has leaked to the public in such a manner that the masses “handlers” are now in damage control and trying desperately to smooth things over. This…to lull the masses back to sleep.

      There is so much wrong going on that it BOGGLES the mind.

      The only way to fix this all is to bring GOD back into our daily lives, to live morally and to bring & reveal the truth out into the light of day. Lies cannot survive in the light of truth & GOD.

      So…do your own research into the truth of these statements & continue along your own path of personal awakening.

      God Bless you, Diane.

    • smilee

      His dad was not a citizen and that has nothing to do with the President being eligible to be president if he is 35 years old, lived in the US for fourteen years and was born here that is all that is reguired

      • BrotherPatriot

        See what I mean, Diane?

        His supporters think that it’s ok to have a child grow up to become President of the United States even if one of the parents isn’t an American.

        Does that make sense to any of you? Don’t you think our founding fathers who took a geat deal of time & thinking to set up our Country…don’t you think they thought about the SECURITY of that Nation?

        Wouldn’t this be a HUGE security breach to allow a NON-AMERICAN’s child to grow up & become the PRESIDENT of the United States of AMERICA?

        Hrmmm…I think highly of our founding fathers and their intelligence. I’m pretty sure they thought of this and addressed it in the Constitution just like it is. They just didnt’ think people would be so foolish to interpret it any other way than the way it was intended. LoL…Obama’s father (if that was his father) was NOT an American. Period. End of story…he’s not a valid candidate. Period.

        God Bless.

        • smilee

          The only thing you are correct in is that his dad was not an American. My post above gives the Constitutional requirements to be president and the 14th amendment was not written by the original founding fathers and what you want and what the constitution requires are two different things, yours is not the law so it means nothing

      • Thamera

        good little sheeple smilee “baaaa”

        • Jovianus

          And so speaks our resident ‘I’m an expert because I teach classes in government” … Jeesh …

          • Thamera

            Well I do Jovi, and what pray tell is it that YOU do?

      • Sunshine49

        Several Supreme Court Cases since the ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment restrict citizenship claims based on being born geographically within the United States, and bestows the coveted “natural born citizen” title to the children of citizens, while affirming simple citizenship to the children born to aliens.

        1. The Slaughterhouse Cases 83 U.S. 36 (1873) The Fourteenth Amendment excludes the children of aliens. “The phrase, “subject to its jurisdiction” was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.”
        2. Minor v. Happersett 88 U.S. 162 (1874) The Fourteenth Amendment draws a distinction between the children of aliens and children of citizens. “The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also.”
        3. Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94 (1884) The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction” requires “direct and immediate allegiance” to the United States, not just physical presence. “This section contemplates two sources of citizenship, and two sources only: birth and naturalization. The persons declared to be citizens are “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.” The evident meaning of these last words is not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction and owing them direct and immediate allegiance. And the words relate to the time of birth in the one case, as they do to the time of naturalization in the other. Persons not thus subject to the jurisdiction of the United States at the time of birth cannot become so afterwards except by being naturalized, either individually, as by proceedings under the naturalization acts, or collectively, as by the force of a treaty by which foreign territory is acquired.”
        4. Wong Kim Ark Case, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) Affirms that “natural born citizen,” is the child of an existing citizen. “The right of citizenship never descends in the legal sense, either by the common law or under the common naturalization acts. It is incident to birth in the country, or it is given personally by statute. The child of an alien, if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle.”
        5. Perkins v. Elg, 307 U. S. 325 (1939) In citing a long series of cases, involving minors removed from their US domicile by their foreign born parents, the Supreme Court distinguishes the difference of “a native born person” of two naturalized citizens can become President. This distinction of citizenship is not made to the others, only that their Jus soli citizenship is intact if at the age of majority they reclaim it.

        As you can see from the intent of the Founding Fathers to the Supreme Court decision that “a natural born” is the child of citizens. A natural born citizen is not the child of an alien. In this there is no doubt. The question now that we seek answered is that Barack Hussein Obama, II is both the child of an alien who never had any intention on becoming a naturalized citizen and the child of a citizen minor. If Barack Hussein Obama, II was in fact born in Hawaii, he is a citizen under Jus soli and afforded all rights any citizen has. But he is not a citizen under Jus sanguinis, because we have laws that dictate how Jus sanguinis citizenship can be transferred. If Barack Hussein Obama, II cannot claim citizenship under Jus sanguinis then he is not a “natural born” citizen.

        • BrotherPatriot

          Almost brings a tear to your eye…just…Lovely.
          :)

  • dhellew2

    No one will ever know the truth about Oreo Obama or Osama’s death. Oreo Obama has made certain, a couple million dollars worth of certainty.

    One thing for certain Oreo Obama is a traitor to the constitution and the Republic for which it stands. Oreo Obama’s racist and Marxist regime is and will continue to systematically destroy the US.

    Every man and woman that served to protect this country, especially those that gave their lives, making it possible for a traitor to become president,have been betrayed. It is a shameful time in the history of the greatest country in the history of the world. NAVY VETERAN

    • smilee

      Why do you say he is a traitor to the Constitution, you give no examples or facts to support that statement. Seeing as you use the racist word oreo several times to describe him really tells us more that your idiotic question does

      • ValDM

        He IS a traitor. He by-passes the Congress everytime he doesn’t get his way, and just makes it law thru executive order. WHAT is WRONG with you? Are you like the “deaf, dumb & blind kid” playing that mean pinball?

        • smilee

          Exceutive orders are not laws or by pass the congress, they are issued within the parameters of laws passed by the Congress, you make it sound as if he can dictate anything through exceutive orders. If there is a dispute on that then the courts can be asked to settle it and they have done that in the past. No one has challenged Obama exceutive orders in the courts so it must be that the Republicans believe he is within his rights. They will of course issue a lot of rhetoric to the contrary but then it is their actions that count not their words and it appears you have been fooled by the rhetoric and words.

      • JeffH

        “The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.”
        Thomas Jefferson

        Unfortunately, the broken chains of the Constitution have failed to contain the federal government.

        Has Obama Violated the Constitution? See for yourself! Obama has attempted or succeeded the following violations.
        http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2464090/has_obama_violated_the_constitution.html?cat=37

  • Jecolon

    Gosh, and to think you really haven’t seen the evidence, have you? You actually thought that this new long form is the real thing? Boy, the new lawsuit has shown, us birthers, or deathers, or whatever you want to call us, that once again it is a fraud. When are you ever going to stop believing the darkforces. In our Judeo-Christian it states that a man with a speaking wonderful deceiving voice with great authority will deceive many, I believe you are in the group, and he will be in charge of a great powerful nation, he will have a scar wound over his head that has healed. Many will fall for his man with his tool of orator except a “group of patriots” that are elected to take him out. He will not last 42 months because “he will be discovered”. Whether or not this is the man, maybe you should check the internet and see if he has a scar wound on his bony head, we will remove this radical fraulent deceiver, because WE will not be fooled by him. That is why “we have elections”.

  • Jeanne Vermette

    I AM JUST PLAIN T I R E D!! TIRED OF OBAMA AND HIS CRONIES AND HIS FALSE BIRTH CERTICATES, HIS STUPID HUMOR, ETC. ETC. ETC. JUST PLAIN TIRED OF HIM AND MICHELLE. WANT HIM ‘OUT OF OFFICE” HOPEFULLY NOW WITH IMPEACHMENT. THERE ARE TOOOOOO MANY AGENDAS THAT HE HAS CAUSED CONSIDERABLE HARM TO AMERICA AND HER PEOPLE. THAT IS IT!! JUST TIRED OF ALL THE FALSE RHETORIC, LIES, HUGS AND KISSES TO HIM BY PEOPLE..YUCK!! GET HIM IMPEACHED WOULD SAVE THE USA. GOD BLESS AMERICA~!

  • Jeanne Vermette

    peace to all who believe and love america!

  • http://com i41

    Some one must have thrown the monkey libatards a lite cigerette to peal. Any dip wad marxist/communist dumbocrap who thinks the niggardly cross bred muslim is reasonable, really need to quit reading the tea leaves and go to a library for some history books. This book trained mental midget doesn’t know how to do a damn thing, his radical idoits and his crowing about what a smart dumb azz he was for getting Binny Laden, was what a typical drug using faggot vine swinger would do. Now the SEALS are worrying aboutt their family and their safety, well DUH, you don’t b;ab all your movements durning the operation or tell what was gathered for years down the road. Typical loose lipped dumbocraps, like Leaky Sen.(Depends) Leahy who was kicked off of a committee for leaking secret finding material. Shows how f–king stupid and out of touch this cross bred marxist muslim is with money, as all dumbocraps are. Onumnutts having an over paid aide fly and get a instrument from Hi, when it could have been overnighted for $5 at most. All dumbocraps are brain dead on all issues and can only operate off of someone else’s confisicated money, since they mostly are leech lawyers who failed at that profession. Onumnutts sure is intelligent, just like Al Capone, and he sure practices the Shitcogo mobster style corrupt government mantra.

    • smilee

      WOW!! Your post is so revealing of your total lack of character

  • Joe

    Rev(?) Dan

    You said”the conservative right has become
    their masters have in fact become the Devil, Satan and anything that is evil to creat more division and discontent. Christ called this mindset “Oh generation of viper and hypocrites”

    Let me see if I got this right… The left is for slaughtering babies in the mothers womb, or right out of it, on in the process of getting out of it While the Bible says that there are 6, yea, 7 things that the Lord hates and one of them is “hands that shed innocent blood”. The left is for homosexuality, gay marriage, destruction of the family while the Bible teaches that homosexuality was punishable by death in the old testament and still forbidden and labeled sin in the new. The left is for taxing those who earn and giving to those who do not irregardless of whether there is a willingness on the part of the receivers to work while Jesus told the soldiers of his day to take no more from people than was due and Peter said that any who will not work should not eat. The left is for preferential acceptance of persons for hiring, promotion and freebies on the basis of skin color, gender and sexual preference while the Bible teaches that God Himself is no respecter of persons and partiality is a sin. The left supports freedom of speech when it fits their purposes but has for years consistently tried to deny the Christian origins of the United States constitution, legal and justice system. The left has gained political power in the United States by vilifying anything or any one who opposes them, character assassination is an art with the American Political Left, but the Bible teaches it is a sin to bear false witness, to subvert justice, to subvert households. The left gains more power by fomenting and spreading racism while all the time they decry it. The Bible teaches that one should work with his hands in order that he may have to give to him that has need, but the left, while trying to shut up Christianity, wins elections by promising to confiscate from some and give to others through government fiat. I could go on for hours, but I won’t. Suffice it to say that if the Devil were voting in American elections, he would support the left, not the right. I don’t know that Jesus would vote at all and if he did I do not know that he would vote Republican. But I do know that if the Devil were a voter, not only would he vote a solid Democrat ticket, he would no doubt be also doing everything he could to promote voter fraud, illegal campaign funds gathering and handing out American drivers licenses to every illegal alien he could find. Get real, “Rev” Dan.

    • smilee

      What a joke, Today the democrats are more in line with Jesus’s teachings that the republicans and your denial of that brings into question if it is not you that is doing the bidding of the devil.

      • Thamera

        “Proper Role of Government” Smilee you should really read it sometime….

        • smilee

          Never heard of it, I always thought the US Constitution defined the role of government but I guess you know nothing about it and you follow your “Proper Role of Government” whatever that is.

          • Thamera

            Well that speaks volumes Smilee…maybe YOU should bother to educate yourself just even a little, teeny, tiny bit…btw I’m not the LEAST surprised at your response LOL!

          • Joe K

            It is supposed to be “we the people” who define the roll of government, much to the dismay of socialist, communist, liberals, “progressives” and fun loving democrats everywhere. If they could just get the constitution completely out of the way, who knows how much change there could be in as we become the land of the hopeless and home of government slaves.

      • ValDM

        The Holy Bible : give it a try, you might learn something. But considering you think you know it all, already; it would probably be an uphill battle for you. After all, with the Bible, there isn’t anyone to argue with or for you to call names.

        • smilee

          I made my post based on the bible, I’m surprised you did figure that out

      • Joe

        “Today the Democrats are more in line with the teachings of Jesus……”

        Yeah, I remember the “Reverend” Wright speaking on the subject.

        I also remember the catchy “buzz” on this claim of about 40 years ago that “Christianity is just communism in it’s purest form”.

        In the primitive Christian church every one sold all they had and gave to every man (also widows) such as they had need.

        What they did was voluntary and Christians still give more to charity than any other group you could name. Look at the names of hospitals in this country: St Judes, St Marys, Baptist hospitals .. it is a to long a list to name them all. Please name for me a single hospital in the United States started from Muslim charity, or Hindu or Buddhist. Name for me the hospital started by Atheist.

        The Democrats to not preach loving charity in the name of Jesus. They are focused on “From each according to his ability to each according to his need”. They are worshipers of Karl Marx, not Jesus Christ and they don’t give a rip about love or true charity, they look to invasive, abusive, overbearing, bureaucratic government to do “righteousness” having concluded that any one who claims to follow Jesus or that the Bible is the inerrant word of God is a lunatic, a dweeb, a nut, a liar and a hypocrite.

        It has been the left that has politicized moral issues and moralized political issues to the point that our country no longer has any commonly accepted means of determining right from wrong. The left has assassinated our moral courage and decries any kind of honest moral conviction. While using any and every devious, unfair, dishonest means to subvert the common dream of our forefathers, they have become masters of labeling that which is good to be evil and that which is evil to be good. If you honestly think that the democrat party of today has anything at all in common with the teachings of the Bible, then all I can say is that you should get yourself a tire gauge and check the air pressure in your head.

        • Thamera

          good one Joe…especially where the “esteemed” Rev. Wright is concerned hahahahahaha, now there’s some real Christian love for ya eh Smilee? hahahahahaha LOL

        • Winnie

          Spoken like a good christian, lol. Christians follow the Teachings of Jesus Christ. He was Brave, Humble, Respectful, Loving, Wise, Truthful, and Honest. These seven virtues of Jesus Christ are called the Seven Grandfathers Teachings in the American Native Culture. Also, known as the Seven Attributes of a Warrior. Jesus Christ, at his most humble (when He was dying on the cross) was the Greatest Warrior Ever.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You don’t know the Bible very well. Show us the chapter and verse of what you say.

    • Mac

      Joe, do you ever eat clams or oysters or shrimp, or pork? Do you really believe everything the Old Testament says is bad, is really bad?

      • Joe

        Evidently, you did not read my entire statement. I also stated that homosexuality is still said to be wrong, to be sin in the new testament. Having said that, aside from the blood of Jesus Christ, I do not believe the sins of a homosexual will land him in Hell any more than my own sins will me. I suppose the difference is that I have not banded together with others in my sin, justified myself, demanded that others accept my sins as ‘normal’ and celebrate them while we all join together, pool our money and resources, and actively seek the overthrow of the moral foundations upon which freedom itself stands. I am not demanding that Christians put the Bible and their own moral values in the closet because I have vacated it and will rant, rave, whine, cry and lie in fits of self-righteous anger until they do.

      • Thamera

        Hey Mac, there’s a reason that there is an “old” testament and a “new” testament…

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Ralph J

      Good post Joe – Rev (?) Dan needs to do a little homework with a dictionary like looking up the word extortion before he shows his ignorance in using it out of context. But then that is also obvious in the mannner in which he quotes scriptures out of context to assuage his peculiar political persuasion. I would suggest to the “Rev” that if Barry Soetoro is so religiously corrupt as to attend the Shiloh Baptist Church on Easter Sunday and listen the race baiting rants of Wallace Charles Smith whose own church hosted an anti-Israel hate fest in 2009 then he fits rather well in the same league with Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson and Jeremiah Wright. But then lets not leave “I never touched that woman” Bill Clinton out of the circle either and though I couldn’t conclusively consider him a “racist” he sure could be called a “prevaricator” couldn’t he. Wrap that one up for your next sermon. Where did you say you went to seminary? I suspect the old “Rev” is a bit of a “Pecksniffian” don’t you?
      Ralph J

      • Joe

        “Pecksniffian”… I guess you know I had to look that up. Any way, I did, and this is what I found:

        Definition of PECKSNIFFIAN

        unctuously hypocritical : pharisaical
        Examples of PECKSNIFFIAN

        a Pecksniffian pandering to religious conservatives, especially in the weeks before the election
        Origin of PECKSNIFFIAN

        Seth Pecksniff, character in Martin Chuzzlewit (1843–44) by Charles Dickens
        First Known Use: 1849

        To give credit where credit is due, that came from.

        http://www.merriam-webster.com/

        I suspect that word has not been used for years and was recently brought back to life by Bill O’Reilly. Any way, I like the word. It gives us an accurate description of one of the fundamental traits of left wing politicians that the average liberal will not know understand without looking the word up themselves. Fair warning, though, Most people on the left are so sharp that they are likely to not look up the word and just assume it is a racist attack word.

        • Thamera

          LOL That’s a great word!

  • Dennis Patrick

    In Deconstructing Obama: The Life, Loves, and Letters of America’s First Postmodern President, Jack Cashill says that Jimi Hendrix is Obama’s father!

    Or was it Malcolm X – according to Pamela Geller and Atlas Shrugs:
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html

  • AlwaysRIGHT

    The certificate is FAKE. Undoubtedly a fake. Typos. It consists of multiple layers generated by Illustrator. Doesn’t have folds, doesn’t have seal, there’s a typo in a word “THE” and that word was part of a stamp and it’s not like that on other birth certificates that month/year/place of birth. There are all kinds of problems that point to it being a fraud. Wake up!

    Next – whether it is a fake certificate or not, his father’s dual citizenship and his mother’s age are both factors that disqualify him as being a natural born citizen. SO CASE CLOSED – HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE according to the constitution. Why is it that I understand this and have known this since before the election 2008, and yet nobody in media, journalists, politicians, Trump, Coulter, O’Reilly, or anyone else does? I’m tired of hearing them say “well I think he was born in Hawaii, so he’s eligible.” Birth place is only part of it. Who is parents are and where they are citizens matters too.

    • Mac

      AlwaysRIGHT: I go with the oldest/earliest interpreters of the citizenship clause in the Constitution, who thought it meant both mother & father had to be citizens for the child to be a citizen.

      However this decision is interpreted by the Supreme Court, all the controversy over this situation should be a lesson to those who next propose a candidate for president who did not spend his grade school and high school days in an American environment.

      Obama did not become a real American until he was a teenager; he didn’t learn American Ways until he was almost “of age” and even then his thought was molded by anti-Americans. I think the value of that shaping of his thought is apparent today.

      • Joe

        What is there about the Obama we have presented to us by the left wing media, Hollywood or the Democrat party that is not “Fake”?

        Unfortunately, the Republicans have their fakes too. They are called RINO (republicans in name only). Personally, if we can have the Tea Party within the Republican Party, why can’t we also just call them what they are, fakes. We could just call them “Trojan (horse) Republicans”

  • http://not liverlips007

    The good thing that can come out of ‘finding out Obama was not elegeble to be President’ is that the laws he signed and the Executive Orders he has used could become NULE and VOID. He would be thrown out of office ASAP.

  • Dennis

    How you we know Osama Bin Laden is dead? If he is, how do we know he was not killed a long time ago. Anyway, so what? Bin Laden’s death, even if it is real, changes nothing. His terrorist ways are still alive and well and will still kill us all given the chance. Someone else will take his place. Kill them off and then there is another, and another, on and on.

    Back to Obama. As a student of Saul Alinsky, he still is a liar and a Marxist and a communist, period. His only goal is to destroy the Constitution and replace it with socialism. He will destroy the middle class (the backbone of the U.S.) if he can and give all that is in your wallet to all that don’t want to work for a living. His birth certificate? Who knows for sure, but I am betting the latest one produced is still a forgery and a lie. With the present day technology, anything can be produced to look like it is real. I believe almost nothing I hear on the news. The ONLY thing that is reliable and believable is the Bible and the good news of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Anything else is suspect and on a slippery slope to destruction.

    • Dennis Patrick

      Bin Laden is dead because Michele Bachmann said it is so. Really – I don’t see her carrying water for Obama or the neo-CON republicans.

  • Trish

    A certificate of live birth is not a birth certificate, why not produce the actual birth certificate?? I had to have one to get a drivers license. Why didn’t he have to have one for the “file” to become President??? When we hire someone we require a drivers license or I-9 to prove citizenship.

    Trish

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    At this point in the game, where the guy is on his last leg and most definitely going to be voted out of office in 2012, I just dont care anymore, as his power to do whatever he wanted is now in check, and soon he will be removed. Question is, who do we replace him with. Having read Ron Paul’s new statement about it being wrong to go in after Bin Laden, just showed that he isnt what we need in the white house at all. He just shot himself in the foot, and his campaign is over before it started. Some of you may disagree, and thats fine, you are entitled to you opinions also, but I know the millions upon million of Americans, myself included, that hear this and just say “no way” to that way of thinking. He says lets tell Pakistan and they will give him to us. Right. Like he was living there for 5 years, that close to their military headquarters, and they didnt know it? Right. They would have told him and he would have ran again. No doubt about it. I do not want my leaders relying on Pakistan, or India or Saudi Arabia, or Iran or Iraq, and trusting them. Because they cant be trusted. I applaud Obama for this move, even if he did do it for political purposes, it needed done, and its the first thing he has done right since being elected. I dont like the guy, I cant wait to see him voted out, his party disgusts me, but Ive got to give credit where credit is do, it was a good move. Ron Paul is dead wrong on this one, and he has torpedoed his own campaign with this one.

    • Mac

      Beberoni: my greatest fear is that somehow, someway, Obama could actually be reelected. Incredible, isn’t it? But the popularity polls show how naive people are, that they thought Obama had anything more to do with catching bin Laden than saying: “okay, you SEALS can go ahead with your operation.”

  • Paul Geller

    The birth certificate is bogus. At that date, the hospital noted was known by a different name….oh, and Pakistan sold the rotor section of our downed helicopter to China……..

  • 2CentsWorth

    This is a HOT topic! The truth would be the best answer for this…. There are two websites that put this “birth” issue in a tie for me. One is http://www.catholicbook.com/catholicbook/Obama%20summary.htm which clearly shows a birth certificate with a notary seal, date stamps and even a baby’s footprint on it. The PROOF for me would be if the country could watch Mr.Obama take off his right shoe and sock, and let someone from the baby ward of the hospital ink his foot and have him imprint it on paper with a clear reading, and we will compare it with the baby footprint pictured on this birth certificate which by the way is from Kenya. If it doesn’t match, then we’ll look at the other possibility which is on this website: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/obamathelovechild.php This is the one that has me stumped, and it could be a possibility. Also, why in the world would this person “Barack H. Obama” need 15 or 16 different social security numbers?? That can be found on this website: http://www.theobamafile.com/_eligibility/SocialSecurity.htm

  • Apache

    FORGET THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

    HOW ABOUT ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE THAT THE ‘MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE’
    EVER EXISTED?

    OK… this is past the ‘birthers’ questions…. this is just plain old common sense, no political agendas for either side.

    Good grief…none of us know one single humanizing fact about the history of our own president.

    It has been bothering me for ages that no one who ever dated him has ever shown up. The simple fact of his charisma that caused the women to be drawn to him so obviously during his campaign, looks like some lady would not have missed the opportunity….

    We all know about JFK’s magnetism, McCain was no monk, Palin’s courtship and even her athletic prowess were probed. Look at Cheney and Clinton….we all know about their heart problems and certainly speaking of the opposite sex – how could I have left out Wild Bill before or during the White House?

    Nope…..not one lady has stepped up and said, “He was soooo shy…” or “What a great dancer!!”

    Now think about this… no classmates, not even the recorder for the Columbia class notes ever heard of him….

    Who was the best man at his wedding?

    Then try to get the footage of his graduation ceremony. Has anyone talked to the professors?

    It is odd that no one is bragging that they knew him or taught him or studied with him or roomed with him.

    When did he meet Michele and how? Where are all the photos? Every president gives to the public all their photos, etc. for their library, etc. What has he released?

    And who voted for him to be the most popular man in 2010?????

    Does any of this even make you wonder?

    Ever wonder why no one ever came forward from President Obama’s past saying they knew him, attended school with him, was his friend, etc?

    Not one person has ever come forward from his past.

    VERY, VERY STRANGE..

    This should really be a cause for great concern. To those who voted for him, you may have elected an unqualified, inexperienced shadow man. Did you ever watch a movie called ‘The Manchurian Candidate’?

    Let’s face it. as insignificant as most of us are .. someone whom we went to school with remembers our name or face … someone remembers we were the clown or the dork or the brain or the quiet one or the bully or something about us.

    George Stephanopoulos of ABC News said the same thing during the 2008 campaign. He questioned why no one has acknowledged the president was in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or made impromptu speeches on campus.

    Stephanopoulos also studied with Obama at Columbia — the class of 1984, yet he says he never had a single class with him.

    While he is such a great orator, why doesn’t anyone in Obama’s college class remember him? And, why won’t he allow Columbia to release his records?

    NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT COLUMBIA!

    Looking for evidence of Obama’s past, Fox News contacted 400 Columbia University students from the period when Obama claims to have attended the college, but no one remembered him.

    Wayne Allyn Root, like Obama, was a political science major at Columbia, who also graduated in 1983.

    In 2008, Root says of Obama, “I don’t know a single person at Columbia that knew him, and they all know me. I don’t have a classmate who ever knew Barack Obama at Columbia .. EVER!

    Root also adds that he was, like Obama, a “Class of ’83 political science, pre-law” student and says, “You don’t get more exact or closer than that.” “Never met him in my life, don’t know anyone who ever met him”.

    “At the class reunion, our 20th reunion five years ago, who was asked to be the speaker of the class? Me”.

    “No one ever heard of Barack! And five years ago, nobody even knew who he was. The guy who writes the class notes, who’s kind of the, as we say in New York, ‘the macha’ who knows everybody, has yet to find one person, any student who ever met him”.

    Obama’s photograph does not appear in the school’s yearbook and Obama consistently declines requests to talk about his years at Columbia, provide school records, or provide the name of any former classmates or friends while at Columbia ..

    NOTE: Root graduated as Valedictorian from his high school, Thornton-Donovan School, then graduated from Columbia University in 1983 as a Political Science major in the same class in which Barack Hussein Obama claims he graduated.

    Some other interesting questions..

    Why was Obama’s law license inactivated in 2002?

    Why was Michelle’s law license inactivated by Court Order?

    It is circulating that according to the U.S. Census, there is only one Barack Obama but 27 different Social Security numbers and over 80 aliases. WHAT??!!

    The Social Security number he uses now originated in Connecticut where he is never reported to have lived.

    No wonder all his records are sealed!

    Somewhere, someone had to know him in school…before he “reorganized” Chicago & burst upon the scene at the 2004 Democratic Convention & made many swoon with his charm, poise & speaking pizzazz.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I agree with you totally. Someone always appears, whether to blast you or to commend you, and this guy has no one. He says he went to certain schools, yet those schools admissions offices have no records of him there. The people that went there during supposed years he “could have” gone there, dont know of him. Professors that teach there never remembered him being there. And America is so stinking swayed by advertising, the guy buys a few million dollars worth of advertising slots, says absolutely nothing but change, change, change, and they elect him president. How can this happen? We still dont know where he is from, where he wants to go, or how he plans to get where we dont know he is trying to go. We do know he is like a shadow, and nobody knows squat about him. The national press failed us all in not doing their job and investigating these mysteries concerning him, giving him the utmost protecting because of them all being left wing liberals. And yes, you and I are not the only ones who wonder so much about this guy. And it will continue.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        The presidential mug has been in every newspaper,tv, magazine,etc.,yet no one wants to ride his coat tails to fame.Why is that?

    • Gregg Jackson

      Orly Taitz, is that you? Most of this garbage has been refuted by everyone on the left and the right. Gosh, read David Remnick’s book “The Bridge” – grade school homeroom teachers, friends (drug buddies) and professers at Occidental and Columbia, he even got the chance to interview Obama’s marxist buddy Sohale Siddiqi (commie and coke head) whom he roomed with after graduating from Columbia. Yes, Obama hung with socialists and marxists in college.

      Oh, Orly – you can read about the Wayne Allen Root hoax here:
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp

      Now you should send your time investigating George W’s years in the National Guard – “nobody saw him, nobody remembers him showing up…” – and… gasp! the records are missing!

  • Robert

    folks – when conducting intel analysis the behavior of someone is very important. when obama allows a highly decorated LTC in the US Army to languish in prison because the LTC was not allowed to engage in discovery in order to prove osama errr uhhh obama met the criteria of the U.S. constitution to hold the office of President and the LTC’s case, Commander in Chief of the U.S. armed forces, then there is a problem. When the birth certificate posted is claimed to be a forgery and matches all the other errors and problems that are yet to be resolved, we have another problem. We need to simply stick to the facts of the issue, because the facts create enough problems without everyone biting off each other’s head. based on all i’ve read from a variety of sources over the past few years, i believe obama is holding the office of president of the united states illegally at this point and senior officials of our federal government fully understand that and participated in doing so. if this is proven, then this matter is enough to bring down the entire federal government. it is very important this matter be resolved properly that is truthfully, out in the open, free and clear. it is scandalous that it continues and as long as it continues it means some bad things are going to be happening in the country as a result of this scam. as we all know, when senior officials of the u.s. get caught, they do everything they can to thwart and obfuscate to prevent themselves going down. the body count surrounding the clintons is a great example of what really happens and one can only wonder about dick cheney and others doing things for george w. this birth certificate matter is a high crime and misdemeanor without parallel in u.s. history. so it won’t be easy for anyone to get this matter properly handled because it is such a hot potato. keep pressing in your areas the matter of the birth certificate and pursue justice along with as many people who will actually check the facts and can think for themselves. there’s a reason chip is saying keep some powder dry – the whole shebang is falling and accelerating with an eventual crash coming. because we’re such a large country it takes awhile for the crash, but it’s coming… for those who read, history is repeating itself… in america.

    • BrotherPatriot

      Scary…but true Robert.

      However, we are American’s. The real ones are survivors & we have an IRON core. When times get tough…the tough get going. I am former military and I am repeated many times over. I may die but many like me wont.

      We will see justice done. Not all will obey the final orders that are so obviously wrong when they come…some (many) will rebel and fight for the right cause. For the good cause.

      It’s just how things are done.

      Because in the end there is only two choices to make that ultimately matters most…do you serve good or evil? Do you serve the positive power…or the other.

      I serve GOD. I serve the positive and will do all in my ability to protect humanity & what is proper and right. I believe in the goodness of Humanity. I believe in GOD…no matter what name you call him by he is still the one and only true God.

      I am not alone in this belief.

      I am an American.

      • smilee

        Neither one of you got it right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • combatvet

          Keep smiling you invertebrate, you are greatly outnumbered and I can guarantee you will become nothing but a stain on the pavement of life. Your a traitor, there are ways of holding you accountable for selling out our nation! This site is for patriots not you curb crawlers so collect your things and git!

          • Gregg Jackson

            This site is for patriots? Hahahahaha! This is the tin-foil brigade that refuses to accept how extremely bizarre they are! And how directed by their corporate rulers.

          • libertytrain

            Greg – at least your comment is allowed to remain here – when a conservative posts such a comment as rude as yours on the leftist sites, it is removed and they are banned. Not so here. You have personal liberty.

          • Thamera

            a lot of you libbs (Greg, Jovi, Smilee, Clara etc.), love to throw out the word patriot but never define it. Care to do so Greg?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        His name, is Jesus Christ.

  • 2CentsWorth

    Bereberoni, you show a lot of intelligence…The only glitch is where you said you applaud Obama for this move re: bin laden. The media is playing a con game on the public. The motive is to get people thinking that this was a “Great Move on Obama’s Part” to GET Osama Bin Laden. It was told on the CBS News and the Fox News, that Osama Bin Laden was getting kidney dialysis on Sept. 10, 2001 and that was BEFORE 9/11 by one day…. check this for yourself…http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/28/eveningnews/main325887.shtml and http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html The new said Osama Bin Laden died of his illnesses, and this was back in 2001. This is just a move to get you to vote for Obama in 2012, so that then “they” can turn America into a third-world country and take away everything the people have ever known and had, and turn everyone into Zombie slaves. Throw away your TV sets…

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      The groundwork was all set to get him, by the interrogations at Abu Gharib that the democrat liberals wanted so badly to stop. From these interrogations, they found out about this courier, and how Osama communicated via couriers carrying recorded e-mails, which were hand delivered to Osama, and from Osama to whom ever he wanted to send them to, without them going into the airwaves. I fully believe they got him, but I do not believe the body should have immediately been thrown in the sea. It should have been wrapped in bacon, and displayed in public for all these terrorists to see, and to inform them that they all will get this treatment if they dont stop now. It is, the only language they understand. They do not understand diplomacy. They do not understand peace. They understand that anyone that doesnt think like they do, is and infidel and deserves death. So just to let everyone know, without a doubt it was him, I would have wrapped him in pig skins and bacons and hams, and put him out on public display, to silence any questions about him being dead. The dumping of the body does lead to doubt, I fully have that doubt now myself. I wish they would not have done that.

  • 2CentsWorth

    Apache and Robert….You two ROCK!!!! Keep going, and get out the word as fast as possible! There is a website of interest, and it has something on it called the Omni Law, that you might be interested in taking a look at. It is a proposed Law that isn’t on the books yet and can be found on this site: http://www.nifi.bravehost.com Take Care!

  • 2CentsWorth

    Smilee….All I’ve seen out of you is little one liners. You’re so smug when it comes to your 2centsworth. I hope you can keep smiling. BrotherPatriot, You are a man of honor, and are truly appreciated because you have integrity and intestinal fortitude! You do believe in God and a positive force, and the force you are fighting is a negative force and an evil one which also believes in god, only it is the god of this world, and has infiltrated all the high places of this earth. Notice I used capital letters when I said the God you believe in, and there is truly POWER in the name of JESUS and in his holy blood! Use the name of JESUS when you pray, and you will see miracles happen!! God Bless!

    • smilee

      2CentsWorth says:
      May 13, 2011 at 12:25 pm

      two cents worth, its not even worth a penny what you said

      • Gregg Jackson

        less that that. Keep up the good work, smilee! You sure make me smile.

        • Thamera

          Well Gregg, it takes one to know one…vapid and devoid anything of substance LOL

        • smilee

          Its easy to get these fools to follow me up with idiotic statements, they just cannot help themselves, especially thamera always the last word but nothing that makes sense or of any importance

          • Thamera

            Still waiting for anything of substance out of you Smilee…you have already demonstrated that you are ill educated and not interested in pursuing anything other than your own “mind set”. If you even had an inkling about the constitution or even the basic philosophies and ideologies of the framers of our constitution then you would know what The Proper Role of Government is and not dismiss it as laughable. If you are going to continually cite the constitution, you should at least know a little about it Smilee..but you and Jovi, keep trying. Maybe you will actually be capable of critical thinking at some point, but I won’t be holding my breath…but hey, thanks for the constant source of entertainment! :D

      • Lostwages

        From another Post;
        Recon1969 says:
        May 13, 2011 at 12:38 pm

        I’m kind of getting off of the doll subject here but this needs to be posted.
        This is an article written by an ex IRS investigator….very interesting.
        Trump is correct, Barry Soetoro, AKA Obama is hiding something in his past that is very bad… and it may not be his citizenship. (Trump would not say this if he did not know something and he has the money to get the dirt…)
        As an IRS tax examiner, one of many former federal jobs, I have seen what it appears Barry Soetoro has done, mostly by illegal aliens, attempting to acquire a new identity in the U.S and/or criminals looking to acquire a new ID.
        Barry, AKA Obama, was lawfully adopted by a foreign national, Lolo Soetoro, and Barry’s name was legally changed to “Barry Soetoro”. (Barry’s own admission) Barry Soetoro was also made an official legal Indonesian citizen. (again Barry’s own admission) The adoption would be noted in Barry’s vital statistics record in Hawaii on his original birth certificate…
        OR Lolo Soetoro may have always been Barry’s legal birth farther. The public does not know for sure at this point who Barry’s father really was and Barry himself may not know.
        Barry was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia and attended a Catholic funded school that permitted all faiths to attend.
        Barry’s mother dropped him as a dependent for some reason, maybe even when Barry was adopted by Lolo Soetoro. His mother’s passport records dropped Barry as a dependent indicating Barry was no longer a legal dependent of his mothers. (The passport records of his mother have been produced showing Barry was no longer a dependent when Barry was permanently residing in Indonesia .) Barry went to Hawaii to live with his alleged grand parents after Lolo Soetoro and Barry’s mother divorced.
        A “certificate of live birth” can have names changed on it including a child’s birth name, and birth parent’s names. Even a modified date of birth can be on a “certificate of live birth”. This occurs frequently for adopted children where the birth parent does not want the child to know who they are. The public has no idea who Barry’s real birth father is or who Barry’s real birth mother is. (Barry could have been adopted by his mother) The original birth certificate is the only legal vital statistics record of a person’s birth parents, birth location, birth date, etc… I can get a “certificate of live birth” for a dead person; I cannot get a birth certificate of a dead person without “Deceased” on it. (I’ve tried)
        There is no evidence Barry Soetoro ever lawfully changed his name to “Barrack Hussein Obama”. There is no proof Barry Soetoro was born with the name “Barrack Hussein Obama”. I’m willing to bet the name “Barrack Hussein Obama” is not present on the real birth certificate as Barry’s birth name or as Barry’s birth father. I have pictures of me with my mother and Jimmy Buffet… that doesn’t make him my father even if I start using the name Jimmy Buffet.
        The public knows Barry Soetoro finished high school in Hawaii as Barry Soetoro and attended Occidental as Barry Soetoro where he did drugs and flunked out of school. After dropping out of Occidental, Barry showed up in New York , homeless and on drugs. (Barry’s own admission) Barry then hooked up with a Pakistani to live with and traveled back to Indonesia on his new boyfriend’s dime to renew his Indonesian passport and traveled to Pakistan with him.
        Ask any law enforcement officer in a large city or detective and they will tell you homeless young men on drugs in large cities usually end up as male prostitutes. Barry ended up as a world traveler with a degree… (Not likely)
        Barry Soetoro returned to New York from Pakistan and began using the fictitious name “Obama” for some reason. (again Barry Soetoro’s own admission) One could only suspect that a person addicted to drugs returning from Pakistan to New York , the main route for Afghan heroin into the U.S., maybe Barry had a reason to start using a new name. There are literally over 1 million open warrants on file in New York … maybe Barry is one of them?….
        After spending some time in New York allegedly working under the name “Obama”, It appears Barry used the fictitious name “Barrack Hussein Obama” for the first time to file his federal taxes in Connecticut at a Post Office Box for the purpose of evading paying taxes in New York and /or to establish a new identity. (This is a felony with no statute of limitation.)
        When the IRS received Barry Soetoro’s federal tax filing, the IRS could not attach the name Barrack Hussein Obama to the SSI number provided or the address provided. So the IRS assigned the fictitious name “Barrack Hussein Obama” a tax ID number for a person from Connecticut (Where Barry unlawfully filed a federal tax form using a false name). Barry Soetoro began using the tax ID number as his SSI number when using the fictitious name Barrack Obama. This is why Barry Soetoro has a Connecticut SSI number. When I worked for the IRS, I saw this occur more than once and yes, it is a felony to knowingly file a fraudulent federal tax forms. Most of the politicians that cheat on their taxes claim it was an accident. That is how they get away with their tax cheat crimes. Using a fake name is no accident.
        It appears Barry fled New York to Chicago using his new identity to get a job . He likely ordered a fake diploma to bolster his new identity as “Obama”. Fake Diploma’s were very big in the 80′s and diploma mills were even being used by federal workers to get promotions. There is evidence his alleged attendance at Columbia was faked (Barry never attended Columbia ) and Barry lied his way into Harvard (he had no transcripts to get in)… Including telling the Saudi royal family he was fighting in Afghanistan with the Muslim Jihad against the Russians, so they would help him get into a law school.
        The Saudi’s apparently loved Barry’s story of Jihad in Pakistan/Afghanistan and paid for Barry to attend Harvard under the name “Obama”. The Saudi family has admitted to paying for Obama to attend Harvard and gave Harvard a gift of $20 million dollars. Harvard in turn made their special attendee President of the law review a person that never wrote a single law review…. I guess that is what $20 million buys at Harvard.
        It is unlikely Barry was a Jihadist and was most likely a drug mule if anything, maybe even a CIA street hire to haul Afghan heroin back to New York, so the Afghans could buy U.S. made stinger missiles with U.S. dollars to shoot down Russian helicopters?… I hired people over seas to do work below my pay grade all the time, even foreign nationals… I think this is the story Barry told the Saudi’s, but he was most likely really just a drug mule/dealer and probably still wanted on an outstanding warrant in New York .
        Barry’s selective service registration is not normal either…http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commander-in…
        After I looked at Barry’s selective service filing I noticed it was most likely fraudulent too based on the name he used. Barry did not start using the name “Obama” until he returned from Pakistan (long after he flunked out of school in California ) His selective service record (maintained in Chicago coincidentally) shows he registered at a Hawaiian post office as “Obama” in Sept 1980… Problem, Barry was getting high in California at Occidental in Sept 1980 (Barry’s own admission) and was not using the fictitious name “Obama” at that time. Barry began using the fictitious name “Obama” only after he returned from Pakistan . The selective service filing is fraudulent.
        NEW NOTE – On the the Selective Service Registration, Barry did not have the Connecticut Tax ID number he used on the Registration until after he began using the name “Obama” in New York . More evidence his Selective Service filing is fraudulent.
        Barry returned to Chicago and attended a semi-christian radical black church with his first female love Michelle. Barry admits keeping in touch with Phil Boener, who traveled to New York from Occidental to be with Barry and was most likely Barry’s first love.
        Barry still could not get a real job, because he was still a fraud, even with his Harvard degree in hand he could lie and take the Bar exam, but he could not work as a lawyer for a major law firm without a back ground investigation and he would never pass one. So, Michelle got Barry a job at her law firm. Barry never filed a case alone and never filed a motion. He wrote lots of memos according to the law firm where Barry worked. (I think they knew Barry was a fraud and didn’t want to be sued by previous clients) Barry rescinded his law licenses, so as not to be disbarred for fraud. The Bar knows Barry lied on his application. Michelle also had to turn over her law license for her involvement in corruption with the Chicago mayors office.
        With time on his hands Barry, a well spoken black man, was able to get elected to a state office, oddly because he looked for fraud in his opponents voter registrations and got his opponent disqualified from running. Barry a well versed liar was a natural in state politics. He used his political influence to get himself a position as a lecturer at Chicago ‘s law school. Barry embellished this position as a “professor of law” which everyone knows is completely false. Barry was not a professor or even a specialist at anything but lying.
        On a whim Barry ran for United States Senate for the State of Illinois . Politicians do this all the time to make a name for themselves even if they can’t win. At the time the Republican Ryan was a shoe in for the Senate seat, so no real Democrat contenders entered the race, but Barry did. On a fluke after the primary Ryan’s wife Jeri Ryan (Seven of nine from Star Trek) went public that her husband was making her have sex with other people while he watched. Ryan dropped out and Alan Keys moved from Maryland to run against Barry Soetoro.
        The election got all kinds of press because there were no blacks in the U.S. Senate and one of these black men was going to be a Senator. Alan Keys did his best to warn everyone Barry was not who he claimed to be, but the public saw him as a carpet bagger. Barry kept the lie going and presented himself as a clean black man that talked like a white man… Illinois elected Barry to the U.S. Senate. The Democrats had already began scrubbing Barry’s back ground when Ryan dropped out.
        Phil, Barry’s boy friend from Occidental, was found working in California as a communications specialist (receptionist) for a dental hygienist school and given a diploma from Columbia and cover story. The rest of Barry’s drug friends were all given jobs or money by the Democrat machine to keep quiet.
        Because Barry was such a news maker as the only Black in the Senate, and he could speak like a white man he was made key speaker for the Democrat convention. Barry then decided to run for President to keep the lie going. No one thought to question Barry’s back ground in the Democratic party… They helped cover up the ugly back ground. The only person jumping up and down warning Barry was not who he claimed to be was Alan Keys and he was discarded as just an angry loser.
        Now we have a complete fraud sitting in the Office of the President. Clearly the most corrupt, inexperienced, and ignorant President in the history of the United States who’s only quality is that he can lie with a straight face.
        Barry Soetoro is more of a fraud than Bernie Madoff and we can only hope his house of cards will one day fall down. This is what the main stream media is feeding to the American people as a fine up standing leader who deserves a second term as our President. This needs to be passed around all over the Internet.

        • Dennis Patrick

          Grimm’s Fairy Tales for the 21st century!!!

          So… how does someone “present[] himself as a clean black man that talk[s] like a white man”?

      • American Citizen

        Smilee, you’re old enough to know better.

        • http://deleted Claire

          “Old enough to know better, too young to resist.”

  • James

    I can’t tell where you are going with this.

  • Lyle Brunckhorst

    I actually like the Kenya birth certificate better as it looks more authentic and harder to forge than the one from Hawaii.

    However the birth certificates are not the main issue at this point because we can discuss that subject long after the battle is either won or lost.

    The real issue is how are we going to stop this imposter from destroying our world as we know it? We don’t have near enough time to educate the clueless, so that means that the rest of us had better come together and support the best option or options for turning things around, and getting rid of Obama had better be priority one.

    I irks me that in order to save our butts from disaster we also will be saving the butts of the clueless and the belligerent ignorant. Ugh.

    My biggest fear is that America will refute the ones that could do the immediate task of changing our direction before we charge over the cliff.

    Every one of the candidates thinking about running for office could do a far better job of running our country than Obama. However all that I hear is stupid things such as “he has gone bankrupt several times” or “he has baggage” or “he is so weak on foreign policy”.

    Obama has never gone bankrupt because he couldn’t run a lemon aid stand.

    Obama is nothing but baggage.

    Obama’s foreign policy is a joke and disaster as he tours the world making apologies for America. His foreign policy has set the world on fire, driven up the price of gas and made us into a third world economic power as we become more and more involved in wars that we can not afford nor should we be involved in period.

    As far as killing Bin Laden, that was already a plan of action in play and all he had to do is give the nod.

  • http://canefieldhunter@gmail.com Chuck

    I BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DOUBT THE BC OF BHO. A “PRINTSHOP” JOB IF I’VE EVER SEEN ONE. THERE ARE 4 OUTSTANDING ERRORS ON HIS SUBMISSION OF A BC. I AM NOT A BIRTHER BUT AM A CONSTITUTIONALISTS THAT BELIEVES THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS TO RUN FOR OR THEN BECOMING PRESIDENT OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY. I HOPE THAT DONALD TRUMP KEEPS UP HIS DEMAND FOR AN “ORIGINAL” COPY OF THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

  • Beverly

    The only people that don’t see this latest birth certificate as just another forgery, another lie are obama lovers. They even proved it on the news that it is a layered forgery. Wake up America, we don’t need a lousy birth certificate to know in our hearts he is not a US citizen. A US citizen would be proud to show he was born here and proud of it. No US citizen would do his damndest to put America in the toilet like this imposter has done. I will give him credit for pulling the largest scam that has ever been pulled on America. But he didn’t do it alone and we all know it. This person doesn’t know how to tell the truth. His grandmother did and she had no idea she was doing him any harm. Isn’t it odd that this lady strong, working out in her garden should die a couple days after saying she was at the hospital in Kenya when he was born? He hates seniors, like he is never going to get old, he has his death panels out in full force. I have many friends that are black, but this man and his so called best dressed woman in America are low live, trailer trash, (offensive word removed).

  • Donald

    The half-backed truths and half-backed data interpretations on this site are a wonder to behold. Keep all the BS coming. Most amusing site on the internet

    • American Citizen

      Bury your head in the sand. The day of reckoning is coming.

  • Vet2

    What insanity & ignorance that permits some people to ignore the most flagrant injustice and serious threat to our nation in 200 yers. A liar and imposter ..the President of our nation! Had the truth been pursued, and BO ousted, our nation would not be in the serious multifaceted conditions we now face. How can facts be ignored..BO’s
    reluctance to disclose..ANY of his past records, the proven changes in the Certificate of Birth..and the BC copy, the Gov.of Hawaii “could mot find BO’s BC”!! Now Pelosi’s participation in the “cover up”! ON and on..the mounting questions!

  • http://Henry Henry

    The Nest for Evil Solutions will always protect their Master of Deception, a typical socialist trade. Soon the Master will fly to Pakistan to celebrate with the Taliban at the Osama Bin Laden Shrine
    his success of incompetence.The liberals could see another blast.

  • http://com i41

    smilee, has always been a mental midget who votes for anything with a D by a name,because it was the grade average and it is recognized. Donald explain what is half-backed(baked) truths as well as half-backed(baked) interpertations on Onumnutts and all democraps. You must have not voted or are to blame for putting this niggardly crossbred muslim into office.

  • virgil

    Forget about where he was born, Even if he was born in the USA, his father wasn’t that alone says he can’t be Pres. His father was an Engish Subjustic

  • Bob from Calif.

    The Birth certificate is a fake. Dozens of experts have already proved that. Obama did not kill Bin Laden. All he did was thaw him out, then threw him off a ship. That is if he actually threw him off a ship. This is the 9th time that Bin Laden has been killed. They just wanted to keep the myth of the boogey man alive. Don’t worry they will find another to take his place, so all of the lemmings will jump off the cliff and give up their constitutional rights for so called security.

  • Ivan

    A certificat­e of live birth at the health Department is a affidavit. It is not a Birth Certificat­e. A Birth Certificat­e is issued by the court and is recorded in the clerks office in the record book of births. This would be at the court house in the county, or city were one parents lived at the time. Any Lawyer knows this. So the Birth Certificat­e I want to see is the one from the Clerks Office. A Certified One. Not a affidavit.

  • WayneT

    This is what is happening to this country with Obama as the president:

    And it came to pass in the Age of Insanity that the people of the land
    Called America , having lost their morals, their initiative, and their
    Will to defend their liberties, chose as their Supreme Leader that
    Person known as “The One.”

    He emerged from the vapors with a message that had no meaning; but He
    Hypnotized the people telling them, “I am sent to save you.” My lack
    Of experience, my questionable ethics, my monstrous ego, and my
    Association with evil doers are of no consequence. I shall save you
    With Hope and Change. Go, therefore, and proclaim throughout the
    Land that he who proceeded me is evil, that he has defiled the nation,
    And that all he has built must be destroyed. And the people rejoiced,
    For even though they knew not what “The One” would do, he had promised
    That it was good; and they believed. And “The One” said ” We live in
    The greatest country in the world. Help me change everything about it!”
    And the people said, “Hallelujah! Change is good!”
    Then He said, “We are going to tax the rich fat-cats.” And the
    People said “Sock it to them!” “And redistribute their wealth.” And
    The people said, “Show us the money!” And the he said, ”
    Redistribution of wealth is good for everybody..”

    And Joe the plumber asked, ” Are you kidding me? You’re going to
    Steal my money and give it to the deadbeats??” And “The One”
    Ridiculed and taunted him, and Joe’s personal records were hacked and publicized.
    One lone reporter asked, “Isn’t that Marxist policy?” And she was
    Banished from the Kingdom’s press corps “.

    Then a citizen asked, “With no foreign relations experience and
    Having zero military experience or knowledge, how will you deal with
    Radical terrorists?” And “The One” said, “Simple. I shall sit with
    Them and talk with them and show them how nice we really are; and they
    Will forget that they ever wanted to kill us all!” And the people
    Said, “Hallelujah!! We are safe at last, and we can beat our weapons
    Into free cars for the people!”

    Then “The One” said “I shall give 95% of you lower taxes.” And one,
    lone voice said, “But 40% of us don’t pay ANY taxes.” So “The One”
    said, “Then I shall give you some of the taxes the fat-cats pay!”
    And the people said, “Hallelujah! Show us the money!”

    Then “The One” said, “I shall tax your Capital Gains when you sell
    your homes!” And the people yawned and the slumping housing market
    collapsed. And He said. “I shall mandate employer-funded health care
    for every worker and raise the minimum wage. And I shall give every
    person unlimited healthcare and medicine and transportation to the
    clinics.” And the people said, “Give me some of that!”
    Then he said, “I shall penalize employers who ship jobs overseas.”
    And the people said, “Where’s my rebate check?”

    Then “The One” said, “I shall bankrupt the coal industry and
    electricity rates will skyrocket!” And the people said, “Coal is
    dirty, coal is evil, no more coal! But we don’t care for that part
    about higher electric rates.” So “The One” said, Not to worry. If
    your rebate isn’t enough to cover your expenses, we shall bail you out.
    Just sign up with the ACORN and you troubles are over!”

    Then He said, “Illegal immigrants feel scorned and slighted. Let’s
    grant them amnesty, Social Security, free education, free lunches,
    free medical care, bi-lingual signs and guaranteed housing…” And
    the people said, “Hallelujah!” and they made him king!

    And so it came to pass that employers, facing spiraling costs and
    ever-higher taxes, raised their prices and laid off workers. Others
    simply gave up and went out of business and the economy sank like unto
    a rock dropped from a cliff.
    The banking industry was destroyed. Manufacturing slowed to a
    crawl. And more of the people were without a means of support.

    Then “The One” said, “I am the “the Chosen One”- The Messiah – and I’m here
    to save you! We shall just print more money so everyone will have
    enough!” But our foreign trading partners said unto Him. “Wait a
    minute. Your dollar is not worth a pile of camel dung! You will have
    to pay more… And “The One” said, “Wait a minute. That is
    not fair!!”

    And the world said, “Neither are these other idiotic
    programs you have embraced. Lo, you have become a Socialist state and
    a second-rate power. Now you shall play by our rules!”

    And the people cried out, “Alas, alas!! What have we done?” But yea
    verily, it was too late. The people set upon The One and spat upon
    him and stoned him, and his name was dung. And the once mighty nation
    was no more; and the once proud people were without sustenance or
    shelter or hope. And the Change “The One” had given them was as like
    unto a poison that had destroyed them and like a whirlwind that
    consumed all that they had built.

    And the people beat their chests in despair and cried out in anguish,
    “give us back our nation and our pride and our hope!!” But it was too
    late, and their homeland was no more.

    You may think this a fairy tale, but it’s not.
    It’s happening RIGHT NOW

    THIS really tells it like it is. After reading it –

  • http://personallibertydigest Al

    Well he openly lie’s so often to the people and press who can believe anything he says.
    He is a huge mistake we won’t have deal h much longer!!
    good riddens!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jerry Owens

      He is not a mistake,he is a disaster

  • http://com i41

    Again the marxist muslim is at his bs bildge of phonyness. He said it was his bc when all he presented live birth certificate. What did his mother’s closest buddy, do but go to the nearest vet clinic. Since Onumnutts is a disbarred lawyer, he isn’t a good example of honesty.

  • jibbs

    No right to resist illegal cop entry into home
    StoryDiscussionCourt: No right to resist illegal cop entry into home
    By Dan Carden nwitimes.com | Posted: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:36 pm | (123) Comments

    Supreme Court ruling in Barnes v. State
    INDIANAPOLIS | Overturning a common law dating back to the English Magna Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Hoosiers have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.

    In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer’s entry.

    “We believe … a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment jurisprudence,” David said. “We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest.”

    David said a person arrested following an unlawful entry by police still can be released on bail and has plenty of opportunities to protest the illegal entry through the court system.

    The court’s decision stems from a Vanderburgh County case in which police were called to investigate a husband and wife arguing outside their apartment.

    When the couple went back inside their apartment, the husband told police they were not needed and blocked the doorway so they could not enter. When an officer entered anyway, the husband shoved the officer against a wall. A second officer then used a stun gun on the husband and arrested him.

    Professor Ivan Bodensteiner, of Valparaiso University School of Law, said the court’s decision is consistent with the idea of preventing violence.

    “It’s not surprising that they would say there’s no right to beat the hell out of the officer,” Bodensteiner said. “(The court is saying) we would rather opt on the side of saying if the police act wrongfully in entering your house your remedy is under law, to bring a civil action against the officer.”

    Justice Robert Rucker, a Gary native, and Justice Brent Dickson, a Hobart native, dissented from the ruling, saying the court’s decision runs afoul of the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

    “In my view the majority sweeps with far too broad a brush by essentially telling Indiana citizens that government agents may now enter their homes illegally — that is, without the necessity of a warrant, consent or exigent circumstances,” Rucker said. “I disagree.”

    Rucker and Dickson suggested if the court had limited its permission for police entry to domestic violence situations they would have supported the ruling.

    But Dickson said, “The wholesale abrogation of the historic right of a person to reasonably resist unlawful police entry into his dwelling is unwarranted and unnecessarily broad.”

    This is the second major Indiana Supreme Court ruling this week involving police entry into a home.

    On Tuesday, the court said police serving a warrant may enter a home without knocking if officers decide circumstances justify it. Prior to that ruling, police serving a warrant would have to obtain a judge’s permission to enter without knocking

  • J. BURKE

    everybody involved should be given credit. this is an American victory
    I believe we need a most wanted list and list all need to be eliminated
    and put a bounty on them of $5,000,000.00 per head and cut down to size the amount of these bad dictators or people who hate us to a minimum !

  • nw

    The possibility still exists that Obama will get re-elected through voter fraud as in 2008. Obama has the resources to use taxpayers money to fund his evil empire but will those same voters and illegal aliens see the light if they knew they have been human guinea pigs for medical experiments? http://www.naturalnews.com/022383_research_experiments.html

  • Charles

    People…. People
    What people don`t understand, Obama is a lot more dangerous to our
    country than Bin Laden ever was. Bin Laden crashed a few planes and
    deystroyed over 3,ooo lives, plus the people that loved them. Obama in other words, is trying to
    destroy a whole country, at what loss of life, I would hate to guess.
    I`m glad they got Bin Laden, however, don`t let this deter you of
    what is going on in this country. It is over and now lets get back
    to business.Obama and is Communist buddies will try to keep this going as long as they can.

  • Annie

    Listen,
    People go to Hawaii to get a certificate of live birth when they are born in places that do not give out birth certificates. This was explained very clearly by Amy Holmes on Americas Morning News when she explained she herself had a certificate of live birth that she got at age 8 because she was born in Africa and did not have an official certificate received when she was born. John McCaslin was comment on Trump antics and the details contained on his own certificate which he found in a box when going through his (94 year old) father’s records. Forging a documents is often done by the Government (eg Witness protection program) and surely a birth certificate is a simple thing used to quash Constitutional issues raised by the election of a Kenyan to the presidency.

    I submit that the long form certificate is also false, easily produced by to support the President maintain his position and in support of his efforts to make the Constitution an irrelevant document and the Congress an irrelevant organization.

  • rachel

    Anyone who believes ANYTHING this crew in the White House have to say are hopelessly naive. if the story smells fishy, it’s because it IS fishy. And that goes for EVERY story they tell. Sorry, but it’s the truth. Mystery and lack of transparency follow this Obama person every step he takes.

  • Alfredo

    I have been working in printing for over 40 years I know that piece of paper stating Obama’s birth certificate is hot off the press by the way it looks, too new. You can probably smell the ink if you get close enough.

  • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

    Chip:

    “Now that most of us can finally agree that Barack Hussein Obama is Constitutionally eligible to be president of the United States, how about we turn our attention to a truly important”…..

    I think the B/C issue was used to divert attetion from the real issue of iligibilty – HIS FATHER’S CITIZENSHIP.

    Even if Little Barry was born in HI, and I do not think so, he is still ineligible to be president due to his dual citizenship as his “father” was a British subject.

    Almost eveyone is overlooking that fact, and that is what the Communist-In-Chief is counting on.

    The B/C he presented has been shown to be a fraud by several individuals who are much more tech savy than myself.

    Barry Soetoro is a liar, fraud, traitor and a communist.

    • smilee

      old henry

      age id catching up with you, your getting senile

      • Thamera

        hmmm…now what was that you were saying about fools having to get the last word in Smilee? LOL

  • http://com i41

    Annie you are full of s–t as a christmas turkey. What was presented is a live birth peice of paper, what and who asked for the orginal the vetclinic, his grandmother, orthe local shaman? It doesn’t show his foot prints taken at birth and his dam’s thumb print. The Kenyian is supposed to show the prints. Again just shows what a muslim puke the mental midgets who voted him into office.

    • Karolyn

      Since when is a Christmas turkey full of s–t???????

      • smilee

        I wouldn’t be surprised if the turkey at his house was, he sure leaves a lot of it around here

  • RicSeag

    I feel sorry for Chip Wood who spends time constructing thoughtfully-crafted essays of neo-liberalism and libertarianism, placing them lovingly on this blog as testimony to his thoughtfulness, intelligence and concern for our country…..

    … Only to have the gaggle of goons who post here be his only audience.

    How disappointing it must be for him…

    This is the nuttiest group of blog posters I have seen anywhere.

    • Thamera

      And yet, you are here RS…haha..lol

      • Winnie

        Thamera, that’s because we get kick out of what some of you write or comment about. Yes, gotta shake my head at the child-like minds of some of the people in this blog.

  • http://www.a4dblwrldtrvladvntur.com Rev Samuel M Smith

    To Rev. Dan:

    I have now lived in Hawaii over 21 years and I have four (4) sons born here. I know how little documentation of fact goes to the Department of Health on a document telling them a baby was born. I also have fathered six children in several other states, all of whose birth data sent to the State for registration required much more. I am also 73 and have been involved in ministry since 1955 and today have more than 70 pastors in various countries around the world who email me often for advice and Total Gospel Literature, which I write and publish. Seven pastors in Kenya are among them. For their security I will not here post their names, but I can verify that Obama’s paternal grandmother is proud to boast of being at his birth in Mombasa Coastal Hospital.

    In addition, I have seen no less than four separate postings from different sources – some (the first being from a Democratic Party official!) of a birth certificate from that hospital in Kenya complete with all the necessary doctoral and attendee signatures. All four had the same info despite being from different sources. Since I have my own Birth Certificate, my present wife’s Philippine Birth certificate, had my oldest daughter’s U. S. Naval Hospital, Argentia, Newfoundland, Canada some 54 years ago my oldest son’s from Portsmouth, VA. Naval Hospital another son’s from Lawrence and Memorial Hospital in New London, CT (Paid for by the U. S. Navy) and three children born in Florida, all of whose state or State Department Birth certificates were far more detailed than Hawaii’s.

    Also, an 80+ year-old friend died here recently and the Hawaii Department’s Certificate of Death showed him buried a year before he died!! So, if you really believe that a man who would spend millions of dollars to prevent his Birth Certificate from being made public is truly Hawaii born, I’d love to sell you MY Brooklyn Bridge. Just send $5million to my bank and I’ll send you a deed as valid ah Obama’s birth certificate. (Four of my ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War that gave us Americans the freedom we have enjoyed for so long and which Obma now wants to destroy.)

    Seriously, the ONLY thing that can prevent the Democrats and their last-minute advertised lies from winning the next election is for Republicans to clean up any taints and be sure we are wholly on God’s side so He fights our battle. We MUST have a genuine spiritual revival of First Century Christianity.

    • denniso

      So, you’ve fathered 10 children? Thanks for adding to over population all by yourself!

      I suppose your Christian ‘values’ are what prompted you to have too many children and the same ‘values’ have clouded your mind on politics and reality. Most of you people who won’t give up on Obama’s citizinship are nothing more than racists who can’t stand having a nonwhite as president. Most of you people are only hiding behind the birth issue as a cover for the hatred toward him because of his race.
      Hopefully you’re not one of the racists doing this.

      • libertytrain

        good grief.

        • TIME

          LT, DITTO that!

          Whats sad is after reading this blogs responces from some of the MONKEYS, its like reading the book; (I IDIOT, by, DA’Bee Nonowitts.)

          Did anyone take note that its only a “conspiracy theory” when someone’s found with their hand in the cookie jar, and you call them on it?
          Or when Logic is in the shape of a bent Pretzel?

          Or that what your told changes by the hour, or daily?

          Or when you hit a real RAW nerve, with something called “THE TRUTH.”

          Just How odd is it that within one hour of Barry’s May 1st 2011 moment; the media was already calling anyone who failed to go alone like a good little MONKEY, “DEATHERS.”

          A tad pre scripted for anyone with any gray matter that still sparks but there are few of us that grasp that saddly. Humans even with HAR 1 still are little less than cattel with two legs.

          Its also obvious that many who post here that have issue with anyone who dare question the “CON artist” in DC. These persons have never worked for themselfs as they display they don’t have the mental ability of a fruit fly, their post alone prove that beyond any question.

          But I digress. Logic is dead, so to is common sense as well any drive or interest in thinking out side the box. Its all do as your told and be good little useful idiots.

          • libertytrain

            TIME, for the record my “good grief” should have been read as you expanded on —- :) after all “Tiiime is on my side, yes it is…”

      • JeffH

        Without question denisso, you are easily the most racist, hateful and sickest individual I’ve never had the displeasure to meet. You are one despicable excuse for a human being.

      • Thamera

        Too many children according to whom Denniso? YOU? And who would YOU be to decide how many children a family can have? And what, is the right amount of children heir Denniso? btw: Obama isn’t entirely black now is he (he only shuns the white part of his heritage) that isn’t any of us doing that now is it. Who’s the racist? You could just as well call Obama a white man, as a black one…

        • Karolyn

          Thamera – I’ve seen many posts from your “side” advocating sterilization for women who abuse the system. You’re the one who complains about abuse of the system. There are too many people in the world as it is. More should be responsible enough not to have indescriminate amounts of children.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Prove all that you said.
            What most of us will object is to having children indiscriminately without the marriage of the parents who are obligated to take of the children they bring into the world. If humans behave like dogs in heat and then expect other people to feed and clothe and educate their spawn, to that any sane person should object. Why should a family that takes care of their own be forced to support worthless humans.

          • Jay

            Printed in The American Almanac, June 20, 1994

            During their preparations for the United Nations’ so-called International Conference on Population and Development, scheduled to be held in Cairo in September of this year, the genocidal bureaucrats of the U.N. are seeking to condition governments and public opinion worldwide to accept the notion of a “carrying capacity” for our planet. In other words, the U.N. butchers would like to establish scientific credibility for the idea that there is an absolute theoretical maximum number of persons the earth can support. Some preliminary documents for the Cairo conference set a world population level of 7.27 billion to be imposed for the year 2050, using compulsory abortion, sterilization, euthanasia and other grisly means. It is clear that the U.N. and its oligarchical supporters seek to exterminate population groups in excess of the limit.

            Academic kooks like David Pimentel of Cornell University argue that the earth’s carrying capacity is even lower, and claim that their studies show the need to cut world population down to 2 billion, the “optimum human population” of “number of people the planet can comfortably support.”
            But where does the idea of “carrying capacity” come from? Is there any scientific basis for attempting to posit any limit for the human family? There is none whatsoever. An examination of the history of the “carrying capacity” argument reveals that it originated as one of the epistemological weapons of the dying Venetian Republic during the late eighteenth century–that is, of one of the most putrid, decadent, and moribund oligarchical societies the world has ever known. The originator of the “carrying capacity” argument was Giammaria Ortes, a defrocked Camaldolese monk and libertine, who in 1790, in the last year of his life, published the raving tract Reflections on the Population of Nations in Relation to National
            Economy.

            Here Ortes set the unalterable upper limit for the world’s human population at 3 billion.
            Ortes (1713-1790) was a Venetian charlatan and mountebank, and his “population possible to subsist on all the earth” has long since been exceeded and today has been doubled. Ortes was one of the most important ideologues of the Venetian oligarchy in its final phase. Many current proponents of U.N.-sponsored genocide would identify themselves as followers of Parson Thomas Robert Malthus (1766-1834), the author of the infamous “Essay on the Principle of Population,” which was published in 1798.

            But all of Malthus’s argument is already contained in a more explicit form in the writings of Ortes. In fact, in the entire school of British Philosophical Radicalism after the time of the American Revolution–including Malthus, Jeremy Bentham (1748-1732), James Mill (1773-1836) and John Stuart Mill (1806-1873), there is virtually nothing that cannot already be found in Ortes. The British empiricists were, as usual, obliged slavishly to plagiarize their decadent Venetian originals.

            Continued:http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/giammaria-ortes-the-decadent-venetian-kook-who-originated-the-myth-of-carrying-capacity/

          • Thamera

            wow karolyn you really are something else…no wonder you don’t have children. Your facade of being so caring and generous and loving is all just that, a facade…but then what would one expect from a woman that can kill her own child and see nothing wrong with it…wow….

            And Nad absolutely, well said.

          • Karolyn

            Nadzieja – Your calling people “worthless” just shows the kind of person you are. No one is worthless.

          • DaveH

            Worthless — lacking worth
            Worth — a monetary value

            There are many who produce nothing and use other peoples’ money, therefore they have no monetary value. I would say those people fit the description pretty well.
            It is a rather harsh assessment for sure, and I would much rather see Government quit helping these people with unwilling donors’ money, so that they have no choice but to become worthwhile human beings. They would be happier human beings also, because they would then have a sense of self-worth.
            Government is doing those people no favors, and they (the Politicians) know that, but they could care less because they simply want those peoples’ votes.

      • JimH

        Hi Denniso,I refuted that lame “racist” accusation of yours 2 weeks ago. Still can’t wrap your head around it yet?
        Just because you disagree with a person of a different race, just means you disagree. Just like when a minority disagrees with that Caucasian, heterosexual, Christian, male.

  • CFNCBETA

    Eloquent article by an obviously talented Journalist. Too bad he is so off base. All the great questions about obama’s birth and he omits the key issue. How did you do that Sir ? The man’s father was a British subject. Ergo not natural born. Parents plural. One yes one no equals not born of American citizens. Then to double your pleasure. The young child leaves the comforts of our borders and visits his father to attend school. At this point in time he too becomes a British subject. Upon arrival back in the states no one files for his citizenship. The child is still born of mixed citizenship and is not a natural born American.

    • BrotherPatriot

      Bingo…end of Game.

      At least it should be…just goes to show how much control they can exert over us…even…laughing at us while they do it…for now…

      >.<

      Wake up my brothers & sisters…

      God Bless.

  • lizanne

    Chip, even if you believe that the long-form birth certificate that Obama and his cronies released is genuine, he is STILL not eligible, per the Constitution to be president. He needs to be a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN, which requires BOTH PARENTS TO BE US CITIZENS. His father was not a US Citizen. He was an African student, from Kenya, studying at a university in Hawaii. Furthermore, his father was a British subject, as Kenya was considered a British province at the time. That means Obama is a dual citizen by means of birth. That means he is NOT eligible. The founders wanted someone who would have no divided loyalties. Obama would have divided loyalties – to England & Kenya, not to mention Indonesia.

    Another big question, too, is whether or not Obama’s a legal US Citizen. Hiis stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, adopted him in Indonesia (his school records in Indonesia listed him as Barry Soetoro, religion Muslim)….and Indonesia didn’t allow for dual citizenship. So when Obama came back to Hawaii to live with his grandparents, he would still be an Indonesian citizen OR, at best, a NATURALIZED citizen if he sought to re-secure his US citizenship.

  • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

    “The Navy Seals shot bin Laden to death without any hesitation or remorse”.

    Now just a minute there Chip.

    Listening to “The One’s” speach full of “Me”, “I”, “Me”, “I”, “Me”, “I”, “Me”, “I”, I was under the impression that Obama shot Osama. “The man who shot Osama bin-Laden, he shot Osama bin-Laden. He was the braest of them all”.

    Yes, Obama made some brave calls in sanctioning the mission. He deserved the bounce in public esteem he’s received.

    What the hell was brave about having someone else kill an unarmed man? You sound like that piss-ant girlie mon with the tinkle running down his leg…

    • smilee

      I reckon your hearing is getting bad too, old timer!!!

  • Karolyn

    Well, I guess you can’t quote from interviews done on NPR. My post was deleted. So I guess I will paraphrase. In an interview done by Diane Rehm with Jonathan Kay, writer of “Among the Truthers: A Journey Through America’s Conspiracist Underground,” Mr. Kay responded to a woman saying that she had friends who believe in a lot of the conspiracy theories. His advice was to advise them of the history of such theories – they have always been around, and it’s nothing new. He told her to show them what happened after the French Revolution, what happened with the protocols of the Elders of Zion, what happened in the 20th Century, and tell them their theories are not unique. They have appeared over and over in history. Once people recognize that it is nothing original, that this is old news, they may realize that they might be wrong in their thinking. Sounds kind of logical.

    A very interesting interview. If some of you might want to read something other than conservative propaganda and are not afraid of NPR, here is the link to the transcript.
    http://thedianerehmshow.org/shows/2011-05-12/jonathan-kay-among-truthers/transcript

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Is that what makes you intellectual? You cannot come up with anything of your own reasoning so you parrot from npr.

      • Thamera

        Exactly Nadz…I am finding a common thread between posters like karolyn, jovi, smilee, dennisso and company that severely lacks any critical thinking on their part.

      • Karolyn

        But it’s OK for YOUR cohorts to post from what they have heard, right? Are we not all essentially parroting someone?

  • Eric Bischoff

    Only one thing is for sure here. Most of you are still full of crap. The world is falling apart, the planet is in serious trouble, drinking water is going to be the next wars, and whether you like it or not the oceans are rising and threatening most large cities in the world including the largest populations centers in the US, the bees are collapsing and that surely will threaten our food security, the world’s economy is in shambles thanks to your brilliant conservative ideas of free markets and deregulation of the banksters, we are about to burst the bond bubble and all you morons can do is argue about the birth certificate of the POTUS as you like to call him. Priceless! You deserve all you get.

    • DaveH

      No, there is something else “for sure” — Eric Bischoff is a Liberal Zealot who will say anything to stick up for his fellow Liberals (oops, sorry Eric, I mean Progressives), and promote the same ignorant agenda that has failed in country after country.

      “The world is falling apart”? Only because the Liberals are selling their souls to the devil for a few crumbs.
      “The planet is in serious trouble”? Oh sure, like it has been for at least 50 years since Liberals have infiltrated our educational systems.
      “The Ocean’s are rising”? Funny, I lived by the beach for 20 years and the shoreline didn’t change a bit in all that time, and still hasn’t.
      “The bees are collapsing”? Maybe that could be stopped if you guys would not blow smoke up their arses, like you do ours.
      “The world’s economy is in shambles thanks to your brilliant conservative ideas of free markets”. Free Markets? Perhaps, “moron”, you could explain to us how that could be when we haven’t had Free Markets since Lincoln’s Presidency?

      Here are some of Eric’s comrades’ predictions of calamities that never happened:
      http://reason.tv/video/show/the-top-five-environmental-dis

      • DaveH

        I should add that thanks to Eric and comrades running around crying Wolf, that someday there may indeed be a calamity coming, but the citizens will not take the necessary steps because people like Eric have been running around repeating “the sky is falling, the sky is falling!” for so long that people will just not believe it.

    • JeffH

      Eric the Red, back again…yada yada yada with your liberal, errr eh progressivism. Why don’t you tell us all how you liberal/commi/socialist/Marxist progressives are saving the world from the money grubbing, eco-unfriendly, power hungry and ever controlling conservatives? I really do want to know what good things you liberal/commi/socialist/Marxist progressives are doing besides destroying the American Dream?

  • Jerry Owens

    He was born somewhere on Aug.4,1961.There was a news classified his granmother called in and got his birth annoucment published on Aug 13,1961 that did not even give his name or place of birth in the classified,only there address.I don’t think she knew his full name 7 days after his birth.

    • Karolyn

      And?????????

  • Jerry Owens

    Bischoff
    Sounds like u don’t like yoa man get hammerd

  • Cindy

    Denniso:
    You are incorrect about the short form being legal for anything needed in this country. When my 12 yr old daughter went in to get a photo ID they stressed that she needed the long form birth certificate with the raised seal. When I applied for a passport I had to get a copy of my long form birth certificate with the seal as the only thing I have had in the past was a photo copy of a short form that was not allowed for documentation. It was again stressed when my daughter applied for her drivers permit that it had to be the long form. Apparently these documents are more important than being President in this country…..

    • Thamera

      Exactly Cindy…I just helped my son get his passport…not only did it require the birth certificate with the raised seal (Jovi), it also required a letter of apostille attached to it.

  • Raggs

    I will be SO glad when all of this BS from obama is behind the nation America and we can get back into the reality in 2012.

  • Viken

    All this garbage about birth certificates and trying to inflame old arguments, and killing terrorists that have been dead for a decade already …. all of this detracts Americans from the truth. The truth is the economy is going belly up and nobody wants to face it.

    Can’t your blog deal with the important factors in society that are hurting real people, instead of pandering to the rumor mill?

    • http://Comcast John Randazzo

      Why wasn’t the birth certificate carbon dated to prove it’s autentiscty? I’t’s all bullshit, the certificate is a phony. The man Obuma is not an American…he wa born in Kenya. I am so tired of the media kissing the Presidents ass while he’s try to turn our nation into a socialistic one. He’s a lying sack of shit. I’m an old man of eighty and served my country in the military while the bastard doesn’t know shity. I once wrote while in college,that the media has always supressed the truth in part or on the whole for the pacification of the masses; that’s what you peoplenare doing.Screw that ass hole that calls himself the president and tell the people the truth about him, other bwise he will have to use turn signals on his ass so you won’t break your nose…

  • John Thomas

    It is highly appalling that chronic racial discrimination is just part of some of us! Gentle men and Ladies, the question I want to ask is that: if Obama was a white slave from any part of the world to become an American Citizen, would any body have questioned the credibility of his birth as an American?

    It is a shame to some of you racist not to have been able to stop him from been the president of the USA.

    Whether born in USA or the Black man is from Jupiter… He is one of the most reverence Presidents of America – the color does not count here my friends. If you don’t like him go to hell!

    • liz

      I find it very funny that you bring that up… During the last election John McCain’s American citizenship was brought into question & he had to prove his citizenship/eligibility…….and he was a white male running for president. By the same token, Obama should also have proved his citizenship/eligibility. Instead, for years, he has put up roadblock after roadblock & spent MILLIONS of dollars to evade the issue. And now he comes back, 2-1/2 years later with the most fraudulent long form birth certificate I’ve ever seen. There are SO many discrepancies with it. As for your racist charge – get bent. Just because we don’t like & worship your man does not mean we are racist. BTW, what do ya think of Herman Cain? I kinda like the man. If he ends up being the nominee, you’re going to have to work awfully hard to come up with another (lame) excuse to attack your political opponents because you won’t be able to use that “race card” anymore.

      • libertytrain

        Liz, while I agree with you, unfortunately if a black man or woman is a conservative, or Republican or not a Democrat, then the left automatically labels them “Uncle Tom’s” – which is about as racist as it gets – not allowing a black person or any person to choose for themselves because if they choose not to agree with the left they are discriminated against and are named some sort of racist character as Uncle Tom is considered to be – go figure?

        • TIME

          LT,

          I been called far worse than an Uncle Tom to my face. As well under thier breath when my back was turned by alledged “Liberals” who also claim they are “intellectual scholars.” Who in many cases have had a silver spoon in their mouth since the day they were born, others just tainted bent nevo’ Monkeys.

          Yet oddly in 95%+ of the cases these same people also drive a brand new car that cost well over $100K, live in Gated Communities and or on spreads of land that range from 50 – 1000 acres.

          All have Illegals as their “maids and yard help,” of whom they pay cash to. As well play as many games with paying their tax’s ~ oh
          {I mean not paying any tax’s} and thats on from many hundreds of Millions to Billions of dollars they make per year.

          So as far as the useful idiots and their banter that post here, oddly given to them by their Progressive media masters of whom I noted above.
          Look at it per its real value, Its crap on a stick.

          As I have said now many times, they are MONKEYS. Not unlike a junkie who has a MONKEY on thier back these freaks are just that MONKEY.
          Mindless stupid MONKEYS, and note how hard they been tossing the crap, that tells you – you all have hit a real sore nerve.

          Keep up the good work folks!

          • libertytrain

            I like the “intellectual scholars” line – if I had a nickel for every one of them I’ve met in my life I could retire comfortably. :)

    • Nadzieja Batki

      My, my, such worthless indignation.

    • Thamera

      Not only that John Thomas, Barry is just as much a white man as a black one, or do you selectively prefer not to recognize that fact?

      • smilee

        True, but you think of him as a black man

        • Thamera

          I know YOU do smilee…and contrary to my statement pointing out the obvious, like a good sheeple you are there to put words in people’s mouth or are you a mind reader now senile? Oh, I meant smilee…truly pathetic on every level.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Liberals are like snarling wolves because they think their food source of human sheep will be taken away so that is why they are so viscious in their posts. Unfortunately they don’t want their messiah Obama to be recognized for a fraud, who would they have to believe in.Why does anyone try to reason with them? They are time wasters.

  • onfinal

    phony birth certificate. The name of the hospital on the certificate was not the name at the time of his alleged birth.. That alone makes it fake. Also a birth certificate was found bearing his name and mother and father from a hospital in kenya. I say he is a muslim ratical out to destroy the US and was appointed by illumanati to do so. white,black or anything else ,if you are not a born citizen of the US you cannot be president. Please Mr. Thomas get your head out of your liberal ass and look at the real world. I know you cannot do that cause of your convictions. I thank you to show your true colors as that is all liberals got to hang on to.

  • onfinal

    Bin Ladens death was a smoke and pony show. Reason: The government has been wanting to set off a nuclear devise for some time now. Now they have reason, they now call it “lone wolf” attacks and will put the blame on our towel head brothers within the US. Sure sound like the winds of revolution are stirring. I predict we will not have another President in 2012, we will have a dictator and the US will be under marshal law.

  • Kate8
    • BrotherPatriot

      Thank you, Kate8.

      Rootin for the light bulbs!

      God Bless.

  • Korean Vet

    I Don’t Care if Obama was born in Hawaii or New York City-! That’s NOT
    the “Real Question”! (But a few Examples–will show the Real Problem!)
    King Edward abdicated his Throne to marry an American Divoree-Simpson!
    After that marriage, if He had a ‘Son’ born in FL.–who wanted to run
    for U.S. President, what was the Problem-? (The son’s problem was his
    Father–who’s allegiance is pledged to England–not to the USA-!) Here’s another–”Suppose that Hitler had an American Mother & had been
    born in N.Y.–but wanted to run “for President”–Do You See What’s Wrong-!?” (Again–it’s his German Father–who is “pledged to Germany”)
    Dad says, “Can’t you get me a Federal-Loan or Grant, since You’re now
    President-!?” (Is this a ‘Conflict of Interest’-!?) Yep-! Another
    ‘Conflict of Interest’ is very interesting-! General Cornwallis in Philadelphia, during the Revolutionary War–is a known “Lady-Chaser”-!
    Suppose that he’d had a ‘Son’ born in PA–who wanted to run later “For
    President”-! WOW-! We’d just “Won” a Revolution, AND “We GOING TO ENDORCE A “SON” OF OUR ENEMY-! (And This Would Let Cornwallis “WIN” a
    Big Victory–by putting the Colonists back in England’s Hands-!) Both
    Parents–according to the “Customs”–have to be Natives & Citizens of
    this United States to be Eligible for President! Note the “Precedence”
    of Customs of former Presidents–as this Customary Law is followed-!
    (This has been the “Customary Law of our Land”-!) Obama Does NOT MEET
    THIS REQUIREMENT–to have “Both Parents”–who “DO NOT have a “Conflict
    of Interest”–as to “What’s Best For This Nation”-! (All of the other
    Presidents knew this was the ‘Law of Customs’-in Our Native-Land!)
    Obama’s Father committed an “Act of Bigamy”–which is most surely
    “Out-Lawed” in the United States-! He tried racking up a second marriage to Obama’s Mother-& You can discard this Marriage-License, since it has “No Legal Standing”-(she remained un-married) & He still
    was married to his First Wife “Azia” & her two kids-! He lied to Ann-!
    When Fraud enters any Contract–it “Voids” the Contract-! In this case
    It’s Not President Obama’s Fault–it was his birth-parents-! This may
    be what Obama was trying to “Hide”-!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      He isn’t hiding his parentage because that can be verified, there are other things he is hiding.

  • John Joshua Sweet

    And the CIA compound that was over looking the sanctuary of Osama bin Laden, watching his every move and all communications for more than five months had nothing to do with the assassination. I am a skeptic of Obamaommunist true goals for America. They knew where he was and what he has been doing for some time now but with an upcoming election what better way to divert attention than to kill the figurehead of the terrorist group. But what was it that made it so hard for the President to wait nearly sixteen hours to give the go ahead on the raid? Was he using the time to warn others? Was it part of the plan to let the terrorist know they had broken their “code” or plans for the next few years so they can now plan according to the breach in their security? Why publicize it so they all know that we have the information when we would have been better served keeping that part quite and get them when they are off guard before their planned attacks? Burn the compound to the ground let them think it was still safe to follow their plans, so we could burn them at every turn, but no the Obamaommunist just had to publicize it all to gain points in the election, for selfish goals, not the best for America as it should have been.
    and a certificate of Live birth is not and never will be a birth certificate, let alone the errors like Black instead of Negro, or as already pointed out he Hospital’s name was changed from what it was in the 60′s.
    I personally do not like the fact that the president is an avowed Marxist and that we have so many of them in office since when was communist power a part of the Constitution, it has the backing of the current administration as seen in how many times they have ignored the law of the land the Constitution. Or lied about the border being secure and then fighting the States right to protect the border and their citizens from illegals crossing the border, or closing off sections of the border to keep Americans from being caught up in the gang and drug wars that are taking place along our border. It is a failure of their Oath of office that is tantamount to treason, as they support Muslim causes to the point of appointing them to a position in Home land security that is equal to having an inside source and no need of a spy to warn the enemies.

    • R. Smullen

      Also the border guards have been told to stop arresting the illegals so the Obama administration can fake the numbers of illegals coming across the border. Just so Obama can say the border is secure. He is lying to us again.
      Google it and see.

  • R. Smullen

    Here are two mistakes on that certificate. First, it says his father was born In Kenya, East Africa. Kenya did not exist untill 1963. Before that it was the, “British East Africa Protectorate”.

    Second, the name of the hospital he was born in was listed as, Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital”.The name of that hospital did not come into existance untill 1978. Obama was born in 1961, so how did these two mistakes get on his birth certificate? Google it and see.

    • Antonio

      you are absolutally right. Its all fake and only being used to prepare for the elections.Great post. keep it up.

  • Royce Latham

    Both long form birth certificates released by the White House are not true copies of his original birth certificate, should it really exist.

    A casual glance can show you that the background is not the same as the Nordyke twins document. All the other elements of forgery are immaterial, although plentiful.

    This is a smokescreen, like the killing of Osama and all the contradictory and missing evidence in that cluster.

    The simple and understandable fact is that Obama is not a natural born citizen, because his father is a foreign national.

    This fact will be going viral soon.

  • Swisslady

    I still think the document is forged. Who does not have a copy of their birth certificate?
    His grandmother says he was born in Kenya.
    I do genealogical research, and none of his records are open to public viewing. Why would he spend so much money to close EVERYTHING?
    Does not compute!!!!!!

  • RKZ777

    I hope everyone doesn’t fall for this piece of paper! This is a real doozy of a hoax. This piece of paper has cia and all the other funny boys inc. written all over it. If anyone now believes obama ( Barry ) has finally released his birth certificate, well then, you deserve what you get. The truth will be known.

    • denniso

      I guess that most of you above know that you’re insane,right? You are the fringe of the fringe in our country and are hopeless. Someone above said that John McCain’s citizenship was questioned during the campaign! What a load of baloney! Where do you people get this crap from? You’ve lost it and are engaged in a mass hysteria…waste of time and energy,and stupid.

      • Jay

        WELCOME ABOARD denniso! Since we love variety we can also add you to the mix of nuts. What kind of nut might you be, by the way? The list of ingredients must be complete, you know, government regulations and all! Welcome to the fringe of the fringe in our country that are hopeless! Hope you’ll stay a while!

        • TIME

          Jay,
          DO has whats called selective hearing, and as he can’t read nor comprehend what he reads thus what ever he post is little more than skid marks in one shorths as far as value.
          Don’t waste your time with it.

          • Jay

            That is wise advice Time, thanks!

        • Blueshoes

          Jay,

          I do read some of these articles occasionally and go into the Comments/Discussions portion for some of the “Humor”. I use to be addicted to TV but I now spend a lot of time on-line, being that TV has gone overboard to the moronic views and viewers. Now I get a kick out of posters like D.O., who are uninformed but just can’t keep their mouth shut. They never seem to check the facts but just boldly go with the flow of the ObOma Kool-Aid withOUT question. I DO enjoy very much the educated comments though because I learn something new everytime. It’s too bad for D.O. and his type, he just will never learn …I’m just sayin’! :)

        • Blueshoes

          On the point of Osama Bin Laden’s death.

          The policy of Interrogating, Water Boarding and “Torture”, which continues to be severely criticized, has proved invaluable, being instrumental in capturing AND KILLING OSAMA BIN LADEN, the mastermind of Terrorism, Suicide Bombing and Terrorist Plots.

          What was the information that we were trying to get from the lowly Terrorists we captured? Was it what they had for breakfast the day we captured them? Wasn’t the purpose of extracting information from these terrorist, to learn critical information about their terrorist plots, their chain of command, their upper echelon, where to locate OSAMA BIN LADEN, the mastermind, etc.?

          Why then did BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA order the MASTERMIND OF TERRORISM, OSAMA BIN LADEN killed? Wouldn’t the information OSAMA BIN LADEN have, what are/were his plans, what was in HIS head, more important than what his lowly subordinates individually were privy to? Wasn’t having the “JEWEL OF TERROR” in our hands worth much more ALIVE, than any of his pawns, his most expendable followers. Why was it necessary to issue an order for his death?

          I’ve been checking the news from the papers, radio, TV and the web but have NOT heard one newscaster, reporter, correspondent, news analyst or ANYONE, raise this question. I realize it might be considered far fetched and “out of order” to mention, but I believe that our Muslim in charge BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, the PODUS did NOT want any information to be extracted from OSAMA BIN LADEN. All his actions are indicative of a cover-up, …I’m just sayin’!

      • libertytrain

        re:”Someone above said that John McCain’s citizenship was questioned during the campaign! What a load of baloney! Where do you people get this crap from?”

        While you make it clear you know pretty much all there is to know to us poor slobs, somehow you missed this controversy re McCain. There’s plenty of info out there from sources even you may consider legit regarding same. Just Google a little. I did and I found even more than I expected.

      • Thamera

        One might question denniso (and no wonder people refer to you as ‘dumbiso’ where you get the load of crap that the earth is over-populated or have the sheer audacity of even attempting to tell a person how many children they should have…I am much more concerned with people like YOU who would attempt to tell people how to live than with anyone questioning the validity of a birth certificate from a known “liar” and “flip flopping” incompetent excuse for a president.

      • DaveH

        Did they let you out on recess again, Dumniso? Do you really think your childish manipulative tactics work on intelligent people?

        • JeffH

          DaveH, his/her tactics only work on the most ignorant of liberals.

      • Sunshine49

        There was a special congressional hearing to vet McCain’s eligibility. Why didn’t they do the same thing for Obama since he is NOT a “natural born” citizen? He may be a “citizen” through his mother, but according to several Supreme Court cases, he is NOT a “natural born” citizen of TWO citizen parents!

        The FACT is that MANY lawyers are trying to get this before the Supreme Court to be decided, but the lower courts keep blocking it from going any further. The Reps in Congress could bring it up, but they’re afraid of the “racist” issue being thrown at them! I think our whole Congress are traitors because they are NOT defending the Constitution — which is their JOB!

        Obama’s mother was a self-proclaimed Marxist and Atheist even during her high school years. She spent the majority of her life outside the U.S. because of her anti-American views. If you don’t think that she passed on these views to her son, you have definitely been brain-washed by the far left.

        It’s taken some really powerful connections to keep so much of the truth from the American people, starting with NOT being properly vetted in the first place. The Dem party now admits to that fact!

        “IF” you are an American, you would be questioning WHY like so many of us are doing. WHY is Congress letting Obama get away with the destruction of America that is destroying American jobs and lives? WHO is pulling the stings? Is America so far gone already that the “people” aren’t “allowed” to question what the government is doing? Are the young people so brain-washed that this is only a “racist” issue to them and not a Constitutional issue?

        I’ve read that only 20% of the population backed the original Revolution. It may take another one to get our country back from the ones who want to turn us into a socialist dictatorship. I wonder if there are enough “true” Americans left in this country to fight for our freedom again IF Congress won’t do THEIR JOB? If Congress doesn’t do their job, this country may not make it to another election before Obama and his minions totally collapse this country financially and declare Martial Law. Anyone who denies the possibility of this happening is totally out of touch with reality!

        Obama and his minions need to be removed from office NOW!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        If the parents were military stationed overseas and they had a child born overseas, the State Department, the hospital of birth, and the country of birth issue birth certificates. Birth certificate has to be produced if you enter the military,etc.. So McCain did have to have a verifiable birth certificate.

  • ONTIME

    Try reading Corsi’s new book and looking at the timelines as well as the investigation of documents. The only thing that is going to stop BHO or the Mystery Man from seeing the inside of a prison is for him to disappear, overthrow the government and sieze control or arrange for his own demise. The investigation by Corsi, Trumps investigators and Kreep as well as others with credentials is piling up on AG Holder’s dst and the courts are now finding the gumption to look into all the convincing allegation that is accumlating and the public demand to have this manufactured man give proof as to who he is….there is no reason not to at least go beyond denial and begin to look at the findings.

    • JeffH

      I’m looking forward to reading Corsi’s new book too.

      • BrotherPatriot

        Me 3.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    Wiselady says:
    5-13-11

    Trump forgot to make sure the the birth certificate was carbon copy tested! Obama has lied to us so much that I can not bear to listen to him anymore. I tried.

    • Pat

      wiselady, you got it he is a habitual liar & he is narcistic. Everything is I I I me me me.

  • Pat

    There is a difference between a certificate of live birth & a birth certificate. Certificate of live birth only means you were born. Birth certificate shows where you were born!!!!!!! More lies the great one thinks we Americans are all stupid. Well he got himself elected. Crookedly at that.

    • Blueshoes

      Pat, you are absolutely correct. A woman can walk in and say she just gave birth to the baby she has in her hands and they issue her a “Certificate of Live Birth”. Meaning that a live baby was produce to obtain a document but no attending physician was present.

      A “Birth Certificate” is a Formal Document, signed by the attending physician, attesting to fact of having delivered this child, who is in front of him, from the woman patient in front of him, who gave birth in his care.

  • rae

    If it were real, he would have produced it a long time ago, like before he was elected…..with knowing the “right” people, and the right amount of money, I could be born anywhere I want to have been born…….He had those connections and he uses them almost every day he’s in office. I really do not understand how people can still belive him or in him after all he has done to hurt this country.

  • http://www.charter.net James Graham

    Well, here it is!, Compare, What do you THINK????,Note Where are the SEALS,!!!!

    To me it’s the story written below the documents (explains how Hawaii has a registration) that adds fuel to the fire. No, I’m not a “birther”. At this point, it doesn’t matter anymore.

    Here it is, folks! The document we have been waiting for!
    Now if only SOMEONE in Congress or the Supreme Court will act on this!

    Spread this around…..if these documents are as authentic as they certainly seem to be,
    Obama is NOT qualified to be our President and he sits in the White House illegally!

    This is what Obama has spent almost $2M (so far) to hide.

    Here’s a close-up of the top of the document where you can plainly read his name and his parent’s names, etc….

    A British history buff was asked if he could find out who the colonial registrar was for Mombasa in 1961.
    After only a few minutes of research, he called back and said “Sir Edward F. Lavender†Note the same name
    near the bottom of the photo above.
    Source(s): “ Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library.”

    And here’s a close-up of the bottom of the document where you can read “Coast Providence of Kenya ” and the
    official signature of the Deputy Registrar…..

    The above document is a “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth”, but below is a copy of the actual Certificate of Birth…
    the real-deal legal kind of certificate.

    The Mombasa Registrar of Births has testified that Obama’s birth certificate from Coast Province General Hospital in
    Mombasa is genuine. This copy was obtained by Lucas Smith through the help of a Kenyan Colonel who recently got it
    directly from the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa , Kenya . Here it is…..

    Note the footprint!!

    The local Muslim Imam in Mombasa named Barack with his Muslim middle name Hussein so his official name on this
    certificate is Barack Hussein Obama II.

    The grandmother of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. reveals the story of his birth in Mombasa , Kenya , a seaport,
    after his mother suffered labor pains while swimming at ocean beach in Mombasa
    ……

    “On August 4, 1961 Obama’s mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa , Kenya .
    Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy. It was a hot August day at the festival so
    the Obama’s went to the beach to cool off. While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains so was
    rushed to the Coast Provincial
    General Hospital , Mombasa , Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961
    (what a sad day for the USA !). Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu
    as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth.”

    Letter from Kitau in Mombasa , Kenya ……

    “I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the
    MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya . I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put out by Taitz and mine is
    exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person.
    I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up
    the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders
    name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on
    the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered.
    I stress the word “copy”. My copy also has republic of Kenya . So what you say is true about Kenya not being a republic
    at the time of Obama’s birth, however it was a republic when the copy was ordered.

    The birth certificate is genuine. I assure you it will be authenticated by a forensic auditor. We are very proud Obama was born here.
    We have a shrine for him and there are many people who remember his birth here as he had a white mother.
    They are being interviewed now by one of your media outlets.

    Fortunately they even have pictures of his parents with him immediately after his birth at the Mombasa hospital with the
    hospital in the back ground.

    It will be a proud day for us when it is proven that he was born here and a Kenyan became the most powerful man in the world.

    I encourage anyone to come here and visit. I will be happy to take you and show you the pictures at the hospital myself as
    well as my document and many others that are identical to what Taitz posted. God Bless. Kitau”

  • John Marsh

    Come on boys and girls accept the Birth certificate as genuine! Obama is still a fraud arrest him for obtaining money by deception theft etc.! He defrauded the Fulbright foundation claiming he was a foreign student to attend Harvard on a scholarship.

    • Thamera

      I haven’t heard that one John, but I wouldn’t be surprised in the least.

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    miner
    Porn stash found at bin Laden compound
    May 14, 2011 … Washington: The enormous cache of computer files taken from Osama bin Laden’s compound contained a considerable quantity of pornographic …
    http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/porn-stash-found-at-bin-laden-compound-105657

    • Thamera

      Maybe your a robot CM? Yes, this was reported yesterday….are you surprised or is this just an FYI?

      • JeffH

        Thamera, based on some of CM’s past posts referncing “porn & sex” I’d bet that CM’s porn stash covers a lot more territory than Bin Ladens…I’m sure Bin Laden likes goats as much as CM does.

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          JeffH,

          Look who is talking.Braaaaaaaaack.2

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Thamera,

        No one mentioned it on this web site.

        • JeffH

          That’s because a “NORMAL” person wouldn’t think it was worth mentioning.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/muslim-organization-criticizes-tea-party-speaker-choice-19901265/ chess game

    Couldn’t the State of Hawaii sent his copy special delivery? I think the whole thing stinks to high heaven. There are other factors that put his citizenship in question. His father is from Kenya, not a US citizen. The Constitution says both parents must be natural US citizens. We all know that, why are people in congress ignoring it. Michael Medved said that Obama was elected by the “people.” to be POTUS and that trumps the other issues. congress and Senate will have to impeach him and that is not going to happen. Any attorneys or people with expertise on the subject reading this site care to comment?

  • http://com i41

    Did not know our Praz was a porn star when he was a faggot, since his 3 buddies all died a month before he anounced his planned run for Prez. May be Binny Laden thought Obama, should have been names Osama since he is a muslim and has a body structure like his with nappy hair and hates the USA and maybe Osama was tracked down his mamee since she had a procivity for muslim freaks.

  • Dennis M. Ellis

    Response: OBL’s Termination 05-01-11

    Hello Chip:

    While listening to Glenn Beck & Laura Ingraham, I noticed a current theme & tactic
    being used (by Obama propagandists)to justify not releasing the DEATH PHOTOS of
    Osama Bin Laden. The main bleeding-heart-liberal argument went like this:

    1.) We are trying to appeal to those (moderate muslims – yeah right!) undecided
    members of the muslim community; to join us in condemning and opposing JIHAD in
    general and TERRORISM in particular.

    #2.) We in the Obama administration feel that it will upset those undecided muslims
    (to view the pictures of Osama’s brains hanging out) by seeing the picture, and will
    cause them to refuse to support the cause of reason, peace and unity.

    3.) We feel that the release of the DEATH picture of Osama Bin Laden would infuriate
    the radical muslims and cause them to attack our troops and civilian-support
    personnel who are currently stationed with our deployed military forces.

    4.) Our main argument is that if the release of just one DEATH picture of Osama Bin
    Laden causes the DEATH of just one American soldier, sailor or Marine then it’s just
    not worth the risk!

    TO ALL OF THE ABOVE I SAY “BULL-SHIT!”

    Point #4 is the old juvenile argument (used by atheists) that try’s to prove God
    (powerless) absent. It goes like this:
    God is not all powerful because God can’t create a rock that God can’t lift! Therefore
    God doesn’t’ exist.

    Point #4′s argument is that the individual life of a single military person is so valuable,
    that we don’t dare risk his/her life for any reason! Never mind the fact that our brave,
    patriotic military people willingly signed up to give their lives (if necessary) in the
    defense of freedom and our country! REMEMBER OUR PEOPLE DIED TO GIVE US
    (civilians)THE FREEDOM TO SEE OSAMA’S DEATH PICTURE! And another thing: if anyone
    deserves to see the DEATH picture of Osama Bin Laden, it’s our entire military and the
    families of the original 911 ATTACK!

    RELEASE THE DEATH PICTURES OF OSAMA BIN LADEN NOW!

    Follow point #4 to it’s logical conclusion: WE DON’T DARE CONDUCT ANY MORE MILITARY
    OPERATIONS BECAUSE SOMEBODY MIGHT GET KILLED! When ever there is a plane crash
    we should ground all planes and never fly again.
    Point #4′s argument’s real intent is to paralyze our military. The real intent of point 4 is
    to render our military forces impotent. The real point of #4 is to cause our military to fail
    in Afghanistan & Iraq, as we previously did in Viet Nam!

    Obama’s irrational argument’s do not disguise the foolishness of having a commander
    In Chief WHO HAS NEITHER PRIOR MILITARY EXPERIENCE NOR LOYALTY TO THIS NATION!

    Dennis M. Ellis TWO TERM VIET NAM VET!

  • http://com i41

    There isn’t any rational argument that can explain Onumnutts or any dumbocraps mental midget reasoning or thoughy process. Truth and facts only confuses and irratates the democrat organisms as they wander thru life living off of everyone else.

  • chuckb

    there’s no rational for people who say disregard the bc issue and go on to more important things, since when is it unimportant we ignore the law? the demos put out a phony certificate to start with and apparently this new one is even more so. the democrats will stand behind barry, phony bc or not, so there’s no chance of getting rid of him before next election. this will be a tool against him next election, hopefully we have enough people that are not taken in by the race issue that they will stand for what’s right.

  • Jay

    Try getting a Federal / State job with a COLB [certificate of live birth], it will not happen. This is not a Birth Certificate presented by Obama. This only says someone was born, okay, now we know someone was born and not hatched. Anyone can obtain these types of COLBs all day long. Ask any illegal…..

    • Thamera

      Try getting a passport. I just helped my son get his passport and brought in a copy of his original birth certificate…it was rejected. I had to order a new birth certificate with the raised seal. In addition, I had to send that original to another agency for a letter of apostille certifying that the birth certificate was an original. Now, we have to go through all these just for jobs and/or passports and our pres gets a pass? Why?

  • Winnie

    Just to comment on those people who responded to my comments, calling me the pooh, pooh,pooh, and other nonsense names, proofs to me who here are the immature ones. The immature resort to childlike responses with name-calling, name-spelling differently and other nonsense stuff. Because I was born and raised in Alaska, therefore, formerly American, I can relate to other countries where the British , France, Spain, Portguese, and other Europeon countries have taken over the lands of indigenious people and called the land their own. The African-Americans have worked harder in this land than any Europeons so they strongly belong more with the Americans that do the
    Europeons. Why you just speak plain English (your Native language)and just tell simply and plainly that you are superior therefore have the right to call me names. This goes especially for Carlucci, Vigilant, and JeffH. Quyanah.

    • JeffH

      …and what were you talking about again? Winnie the Pooh Pooh…???

      • Winnie

        Short memory, JeffH, or just being who you are. No brains.

    • Thamera

      You can add me to your list Winnie cuz you are certifiable! Nuts that is.

      • Winnie

        Not to worry “American” Thamera, you were already on the list.

        • Thamera

          Yes, I am an American Winnie, like every poster on this board, the only one I would question would be you…and well, maybe Denniso LOL

          • Winnie

            Thamera, with people like for role models of Americans, I guess I’m lucky to be out of the United States of America. But, being a dual citizen, I must at times call myself American, which more than what you have. Good night.

  • Allan

    No, Obama’s eligibility is not settled. Congress agreed in 2008 that to be a “natural born” citizen, you must have two American Citizen parents. Obama only has one!

  • http://com i41

    Winnie, te so called “native people” wandered in here fron some place else, the reason the idoits got their azzes kicked was to stayed in the stong age and still do even yet to day. Once they be came wards of the government, lazier they become and more worthless to society. Talk to anyone from New Zealand with their “native dead azzes”. The blacks if the want to be Africans, get in a log and get the hell out of here. Their own people sold them as a commodity and were captured and moved by the muslims which most of the dinks want to be. This hyphinated American Bs is just that. English is the language of America not some goobly gook crap, speak it or get ot of here, it has nothing to do with being superior. My German, Norweigen and French grandparents would not speak their native countries language, because they said, they came here to be Americans and if people wanted to speak thar language get out of the USA. They did not have programs to assemulate here, it was learn English of starve. The wasted money teaching Spanish, Arabic dialetics, or one of the several bush vine swingers mumbo jumbo crap. I could care less what color of the skin and beleifs when they left their 3rd world s–t holes, but abide by our customs, laws, and our language. With affermative action and the professed victomology minorities are the most worthless pee brained idoit who support the marxist/communist bildge.

  • Winnie

    What???? You do not make any sense i41. What are you trying to say. Say it in plain English.

    • JeffH

      Winnie the Pooh Pooh, i41 makes as much sense as you…LMAO!

    • Thamera

      What exactly is plain English Winnie from Alaska who was formerly American who knows everything there is to know about indigenous people across the globe who touts that everything ever done that required real, hard work was done by anyone except Europeans who in her mind, were all born from the “mother country” even George Washington. And you expect anyone to take you seriously! AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. I don’t have to call you names, your posts are a clear indication of your mental stability, prejudice and bias. Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha LOL

      • Winnie

        I love the responses that I get from the people that strong appose the democrats. They are immature and at the same time superior in their minds. I am laughing my pooh, pooh behind off. What a bunch of “Americans”.

        • Thamera

          Way to answer a question Winnie…obviously you can’t…it’s difficult enough for you to put a sentence together or spell words correctly…or is that plain English Winnie? LOL

          • Winnie

            Thamera, you assume I can’t spell right just because one or two misspells. I guess if I proofed my writing my spelling would probably be better than yours. But then you got the meaning of my writing, misspelled words or not. I guess your bright enough.

  • Joe

    Chip Wood, patriotic American (what a crock), at it again, like a weak man having a hissy fit, railing agaainst the President (who did what other presidents and their vice-presidents could not do and that is kill bin-Laden) who had Navy SEALS (did Wood ever serve in the military?) kill bin-Laden. Bush, Cheyney, Rumsfeld (the gang of three) could not or did not want to do it, let bin-Laden slip away, when he was hiding in Afghanistan. So to Chip Wood and all the other weak-minded men and women who love the Republicans, just SHUT-UP and go hide in your closeted little lives.

    • JeffH

      Joe says baaaaa, baaaa, baaaa! Polly want a cracker? bbbaaarrraaaccckkk!

    • Thamera

      It was only a matter of time Joe. The wheel for Osama’s capture or extermination had been set in motion a long time ago and everybody knows that…as for calling people un-patriotic that don’t agree with you…it’s very old and really makes one wonder if you even know what a patriot is…so, I will ask you what I have asked everyone else like you, the same question…care to define patriot?

      • Karolyn

        “One who loves, supports, and defends one’s country.”

        • Thamera

          Thank you Karolyn…bravo but I see that you quoted something, can no one define patriot on their own? If you claim to be a patriot you should certainly know what it means to be one without having to quote someone else, don’t ya think? I really didn’t mean for this to be such a tough question but the way people like to throw that word around, I think you should really be able to define it (outside of Webster’s dictionary)…

          • Karolyn

            Thamera – I really didn’t give it a lot of thought. Actually, I figured anything that I might come up with would probably be shot down by you and Dave. The def. I gave is what I would have said, although my first choice was just “someone who loves their country.”

          • http://deleted Claire

            My interpretation of patriotism is the pride and love I feel for America. God knows I love America, and I am proud to be an American, and I will fight for America until my last breath. I will get along with anyone, providing they do not tread on me, and take away my rights as an American citizen. I am proud of our troops, may they always keep safe. I am thankful for our troops AND their families. Many, many of them have given the ultimate sacrifice, God bless our troops and their families. Always. I am proud of the U.S. Flag, Old Glory is a part of my everyday life and it has been flown for many years, and it will be flown every day for the rest of my life. As an American, I have freedom to do what I want, say what I want, believe what I want, and live the life I choose to live. I intend on keeping this life. I love my neighbors, we have grown older together. I am grateful to have the neighbors that will come to my resuce through any disaster, and I will go to their rescue should anything befall them. We pulled together through 2 tornadoes, everyone helped each other. Yes, I love America and all Americans, I love God and I am grateful to him for the life he has given me. And know this, I will fight for America and all Americans, should any foreign country or peoples attempt to overthrow America, or do us harm.

          • libertytrain

            :)

          • Thamera

            Clair, that is a stirring definition of patriotism with which I strongly agree. I have my own definition of patriotism which varies only slightly from yours, and karolyn, I sincerely want to know how people define patriotism, you included. This has been an on-going question to Jovi really since he called me a liar about teaching and went on to call me un-patriotic and even un-American, so I wanted to know how he would define patriotism for himself, but he has never responded (or she), so thank you for your responses. I think it is important to know…not for me to know, but for each individual to know what is in their heart, for themselves.

            karolyn, I am really not so mean spirited as I might come across on this board. I love my neighbors, my fellow Americans and our freedoms and the fact that we are free to speak our minds. I try to be judicious in my study of history, politics and government in order to preserve our freedoms that we as a country enjoy and have spent many hours studying the framers and founders of our constitution, their lives, beliefs and philosophies, but further I believe that above politics, we are Americans first.

  • Sunshine49

    This is a must read for Christian Americans:

    http://www.offthegridnews.com/2011/05/13/silver-and-gold-have-we-none-transcribed/

    This is a must watch (or read) about the intrinsic value of money. It
    makes the point that what will be of value in the future will be what
    you can produce to barter. It makes me think of the book that I’m
    reading called “Money Mischief” by Milton Friedman.

    I think that our socialistic entitlement thinking is what is destroying this country. The welfare state never allows people to “grow up” and be responsible for themselves. The ones who know that “nothing in life is for free” are going to be the survivors. The ones who know that government is the problem — not the solution, will be the ones who will prepare for the hell that is coming.

    People who follow Obama’s way of thinking are going to be in deep trouble when the far left’s agenda finally comes to light!

    • DaveH

      It all boils down to one simple goal, Sunshine. The Politicians are buying votes. That’s all. If they truly cared about people, they would never have built a $14 Trillion debt that will hobble the next generation and many to come. It is all about Power and Perks for the Politicians. Some day the masses may figure that out.

  • jopa

    I must agree with Chip on this one in that I also would have liked to seen Bush take out Bin Laden.The sooner the better.However they really didn’t get anything right in eight years.Tonight on 60 minutes Sec. of Defense Robert Gates a holdover from the Bush years will be on to let us all know what went down in the taking down of Bin Laden.We should be able to get a bi-partisan opinion that we could all agree on after watching this episode.America.United We Stand

    • http://deleted Claire

      As long as there is a 2-party system, we will never be united.

  • Jay

    Dead Bin Laden: The Ultimate Danish Motoon
    Diana West 5 May 2011
By Diana West

    Separated at birth?

    I’ve had a sneaking suspicion that the Obama White House would ultimately nix the release of Dead Bin Laden, and here it comes, the prepatory rumblings: Gates and Hillary, ABC’s Jake Tapper reports (via Drudge) are arguing against release. This tagteam pushback, Tapper writes with soothing gentility, is due to “concerns at the Pentagon and State Department that releasing a photograph could prompt a backlash against the US for killing bin Laden where one does not seem to currently exist.”
    Hmm.

    Now where would that be? Manhattan? Madrid? Bali? Tel Aviv? Nah. We’re talking Umma Central. Our leadership is quaking in their boots (pumps) over the prospect that the sight of dead Bin Laden would set off billions of Hair-Trigger Moderates in a frenzy of murder and mayhem in the growing tradition of Terry Jones Rage, Fitna Rage, Pope Rage, Teddy Bear Rage, Kommode-Koran Rage … and of course, Danish Cartoon Rage. While there are differences between a political cartoon and a news photo, the vital point of comparison is that if indeed the OBL death photo is not released, both Bomb-Head Mohammed and Bullet-Head Osama will have been deemed “offensive” to Muslims and therefore forbidden to all. This is a textbook example of dhimmitude, the condition of non-Muslims under the influence, de jure or de facto, of Islamic law.

    Shame.
    http://europenews.dk/en/node/42942

  • DaveH

    Another example of the Big Government machine that we are up against, this one on the State level:
    http://www.nrtw.org/en/press/2011/05/homecare-providers-win-settlement-st

  • DaveH
  • jopa

    100% of the American public agree that raising the debt ceiling is something nobody wants to do but after the crisis we face because of a previous administrations spending spree we have no choice.The Republicans don’t want to do it because it would put the US in financial ruin and that would make our president look bad.They are willing to destroy America as we know it just to get a little political gain.How pathetic is that?

    • DaveH

      Are you really that ignorant, Jopa?
      How can any person rail about Bush’s spending and then say nothing about Obama’s which has increased the National Debt twice as fast each year as what Bush did? If the Government spending is in excess, then it is in excess no matter what Political Party hat is worn.

      But you know, it’s good that you morally inconsistent Liberals post on this board so more people can see what you are really made of. Thanks for aiding in the waking up of America.

      • Thamera

        Good post as usual DaveH…I couldn’t agree with you more..this isn’t rocket science these are basic fundamentals that have been tried and tested throughout time with the same endings whether it is on a personal level or a government/national level…you cannot sustain debt artificially and more debt NEVER results in financial freedom but ALWAYS results in financial ruin. Oh, and Jopa, seems like there is someone that is in favor of raising the debt ceiling…the dems in the senate and the ever fearless Obama right at the helm…CHARGE!

    • Mick

      jopa

      From: TreasuryDirect

      01/19/2001 5,727,776,738,304.64

      01/20/2009 10,626,877,048,913.08

      National debt for the 8 years bush was in power…Not good

      &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

      01/20/2009 10,626,877,048,913.08

      When Obama took over

      Til May 12th 2011..Little less than 2 1/2 Years

      05/12/2011 14,307,799,341,563.81

      If you can count you can see it’s much,,,Much worse.

    • JeffH

      jopa, you are worse than Jovi-commie. This taken from the far left and liberal Huff n Toke website.

      Poll: Most Americans Oppose Increasing The Debt Limit

      The Ipsos/Reuters poll found that 71% of those surveyed oppose increasing the debt limit. This was true even of the half sample who were told that “not raising the debt limit would damage the US’ sovereign debt rating, which is like our credit rating: it would seriously damage our credibility abroad, would make it much more difficult for us to borrow in the future, and would likely push up interest rates.”
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/13/poll-debt-limit_n_808778.html

      It seems as if your bias is clouding your honesty.

      • DaveH

        If Jopa thinks not raising the debt ceiling is going to “destroy” America. What does he think will happen later when we have even more debt? Eventually the lenders are going to wise up (debt ceiling or not) and quit lending to us. Then with even more debt under our belt what are we going to do? Only pathetically ignorant people think that adding more debt is going to somehow save us.

  • James

    The green “Certification of Live Birth” pictured above is not a birth certificate, it’s a computer print out. It’s a legal statement that barack Obama was born in Honolulu, but it isn’t the actial certificate. Longform birth certificates are mass printed forms with blanks to be filled in, and attendant officials to sign.

  • Charles B. Stinson

    Every person campaigning for President should be required to prove he is a American citizen.
    The point someone made, whey did it take him so long to come up with a birth certificate???
    I still have my doubts that he is a American citizen.

  • DaveH

    Every Freedom-loving American should watch this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSDBswx90Cs

  • jopa

    Mick;Now for a reality check.The numbers for Obama also are the numbers Bush put on the credit card by Bush to fight two wars that didn’t come cheap.Then there are Obama’s numbers to keep us out of a Depression created by the Bush administration.Trillions for wars and the current president took out Bin Laden with a couple dozen Seals.Be sure to watch 60 minutes tonight.Should be good.

    • JeffH

      The Deficit Is Obama’s Now! This is Obama’s budget, one he has said will fix federal spending. He owns the deficit now. Obama promises to slice the current budget deficit in half by the end of his first term. That should shock more people: a half-trillion-dollar deficit in 2013. He better hurry up, time is a wastin’.

  • jopa

    Dave H:Good video and now he should take his tele-prompter to the floor of the house and senate and give this talk to all of them.

  • jopa

    Nobody is in dispute that today’s deficit is Obama’s but some folk fail to realize that Bush numbers and actions and at times in-actions carry over to the next administration.Basiclly Bush burned down the farm and didn’t have insurance on it, now President Obama has to fix things and before his eight years are up America will be strong as ever and we will all be rejoicing and singing Hail to The Chief.Thank you and good day.

    • DaveH

      Bush inherited his problems from Bill Clinton.
      Damn, I’m starting to sound like an ignorant Liberal.

      • Jay

        LOL!!!!

    • DaveH

      Okay, I’ll rephrase that (personal liberty software didn’t like me using the word “dam_”).
      Bush inherited his problems from Bill Clinton.
      Darn, I’m starting to sound like an ignorant Liberal.

      • Thamera

        good one DaveH :D but oh so true (about clueless Clinton, that is)

    • Jay

      What jopa meant to say: Nobody is in dispute that today’s deficit has been quadrupled by Obama’s administration, and that, in less then two years, surpassing the Bush administration’s capability to do so in eight years! but some folk fail to realize that Bush numbers and actions, and at times in-actions, carry over to the next administration. Basically, Bush burned down the farm and didn’t have insurance on it, now President Obama has to fix things by further increasing the deficit exponentially and before his eight years are up America will be pretty much F****ed as never before, and we will all be rejoicing and singing Hail to The Chief in Crime. Thank you and good day.

      Jopa, I hope you don’t mind the paraphrasing!

  • Dee

    I still don’t believe obummer’s birth certificate is a real one.
    With the technology that we have now, they can do anythind including
    manufacturing a birth certificate to look real.

  • WiseOvOwl

    Whether his birth certificate is real or fake it only proved one thing. That proof, whether real or fake, states that Obama’s father was born in Kenya. This proves Barack Obama is ineligible to hold the office of “The president of the United States” by the constitution. The definition of natural born citizen is both parents were born in the United States as citizens. Chip you are dead wrong on stating he is eligible. As for the rest start contacting your representative for letters of impeachment. Bye the way codes do not override the constitution nor state statutes for in fact the definition of a natural born citizen is both parents born here while being US citizens. This was never amended by the states concerning the constitution no mater what codes or state laws were enacted.

  • jopa

    DaveH: You are just so totally ignorant when it comes to America, being such a great country and the ability it has to solve problems when we have such great leadership.Just be a little patient and you will see this country rebound to the greatness of the Clinton era.Thank you Mr. President and congratulations on the disposal of Bin Laden.A feat the previous administration failed to do for nine years.Wow.

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      joba,
      We had a surplus under Clinton.

      • Jay

        coal miner says:

        joba,
        We had a surplus under Clinton thanks to Ronald Wilson Reagan!!!

        • JeffH

          Jay, what surplus? Clinton’s mythical surplus? Never was one under Clinton!

          • Jay

            Just playing their mythical game JeffH! LOL (-:

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          cJay,
          You mean that same Ronald Turn “Coat” Reagan that gave our sensitive technology to the Chinese,ship our jobs over seas and left a deficit for Clinton to clean up..When Clinton left office there were a surplus,but that was about to changed in a hurry. When George “Scab” Bush took office,he not only got us in a illegal war,he also gutted this country and left this country with a spirialing deficit that was and still is out of control,and it will take years to undo.Come on boys you can do better that.11

          • Jay

            Pure allegations, nothing more! In case you haven’t noticed, they are gone, you should really focus on Hitler in the White House!!! Cheers!

  • Kay

    There is a difference between a birth certificate and a certificate of live birth. The latter just means you were born and are walking around on the planet, but does not give the facts of your birth… doctor, time, place, parents, etc.

  • jopa

    Jay:Sorry but Hitler will never make it to the White House.Adolph Gingrich hasn’t got a chance.Oops I mean Newt you know those slimy creatures you find under a rock by a stream.I still wonder how his mother knew.

  • Jay

    Obama is angered by the several State Governors who have reestablished “State Defense Forces.” These forces are described as: “State Defense Forces (also known as State Guards, State Military Reserves, State Militias) in the United States are military units that operate under the sole authority of a state government; they are not regulated by the National Guard Bureau nor are they part of the Army National Guard of the United States. State Defense Forces are authorized by state and federal law and are under the command of the governor of each state. State Defense Forces are distinct from their state’s National Guard in that they cannot become federal entities.”

    Mr. Obama is fearful of these State Defense Forces, in that he does not have control of said forces, and with the U.S. Military stretched to near breaking from multiple deployments and theatre actions in Iraq and Afghanistan, these State military forces would be under the direct command and authority of the Governors in which states have said forces. In essence, the Governors would have “de facto control” of the United States.

    The two Governors leading this move are: Tim Pawlenty, Governor of Minnesota; and Rick Perry, Governor of Texas. Both of these State Governors stated they have: “…deep fear the President is destroying their Nation.” Governor Pawlenty’s fear of Obama is that since Obama took office he has appeased America’s enemies and has shunned some of America’s strongest allies, especially Israel. Governor Perry has declared that Obama is punishing his State of Texas by dumping tens-of-thousands of illegal Mexican immigrants into the cities and small towns of Texas. Governor Perry further recently stated: “If Barack Obama’s Washington doesn’t stop being so oppressive, Texans might feel compelled to renounce their American citizenry and secede from the union.”

    Obama fearing a revolution against him by the states, has moved swiftly by nationalizing nearly all National Guard Forces in multiple states; Georgia, Alabama, Kansas, Minnesota, Tennessee, Virginia, Louisiana, South Carolina – to name a few. The Governors of the Great States of Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia still have under their Command-and-Control the State Defense Forces to go against U.S. Federal forces should the need arise. Also important to note:

    There are NO U.S. laws prohibiting National Guard troops from also joining their State’s Defense Forces. This dilemma occurred during the Civil War with many “citizen soldiers” choosing to serve their states instead of the Federal Government.

    http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2010/05/26/obama-the-dictator-obama-serves-14-state-governors-with-warnings-of-arrest/

  • Jay

    A veteran – whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve – is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to The United States of America, for an amount of “Up to and including my life”. That is honor, and there are far too many people in this country who no longer understand it. – Author Unknown

    Obama-Dictator and Ruler with “Change”

    While the Nation’s focus is on the Spendulous Plan for a Trillion Dollars, and Americans are wondering how to feed they’re families, pay regular bills, and pay for this Spendulous Plan…Obama’s attorneys and Obama have SNUCK two proposals through the House Judiciary.

    That’s right, Obama purposefully keeps the Peoples attention diverted from his TRUE Plan. The Dictation of the Nation.

    All of those 3 million jobs he plans to magically produce??? Government positions, building the super highway that runs from Canada to Mexico through the Midwest. Taking land for the project by eminent domain. Resurfacing the Nations regular highways, because they have to LINK to the Super Highway.
    Forcing Nationalized health care, adding more funds to State Benefits programs so everyone qualifies for Financial assistance, Food Stamps, and Medicaid.

    CONTROLLING your employer’s so YOU are controlled.

    Government is planning on growing exponentially, while freedom shrivels like a shrinky-dink in an oven.

    All of this, with a President who is not even a citizen (natural) of the United States. Ahhh, but that too will be a problem fixed with the new proposed “change” to our Constitution. And he can be leader for life–like Chavez–and other communistic dictators.

    Is this reminiscent of Hitler to anyone?

    Two proposals from Obama the ATTORNEY who is fluent in the Constitution:

    “Change” the Natural Born Citizen rules (so his citizenship is no longer in question)

    “Change” the length a President can serve, so he can be DICTATOR/RULER indefinitely

    http://cci-thepoisonpen.blogspot.com/2009/02/obama-dictator-and-ruler-with-change.html“Change” the length a President can serve, so he can be DICTATOR/RULER indefinitely

  • Jay

    The Rise of a Dictator
    April 17, 2011

    Obama, elected to be President has now appointed himself to be the Supreme Court. We all remember a few months back when a Federal District Court Judge, Martin Feldman, Declared the Obama Regime to be in contempt of Court for ignoring the ruling that was supposed to end the Oil Moratorium. Then a little further back Obama took it upon himself to declare “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” unconstitutional and ordered Congress to overturn the Clinton Era Ban. More recently the Rogue Regime decided that the need for Congressional Approval to go to war against Libya did not apply to him and commenced with conflict without so much as a courtesy phone call. Or how about his arrogance he expressed at the mere idea that Obama displayed when he himself decided that the Defense of Marriage Act violated people’s civil rights and ordered the Justice Department to stop defending the cases.

    Well the man is at it again.

    http://louisianaconservative.com/the-rise-of-a-dictator

    • James

      Jay, I think the scary part here is that President Obama went to the U.N. to make sure his Libyan attack plan had their approval, without consulting Congress at all, and most Americans didn’t react at all.

      • Jay

        James, We must get this anti-American “Rat” and the rest of the infestation, that view our liberties and freedoms as nothing more then cheese to be gobbled up, out of the White House, and out of our lives!!!

  • BrotherPatriot

    God Bless Lt. Col. Terry Lakin.

    May we remember (reimburse) him for what he paid pursuing the truth.

    A true Patriot.

  • Buddy

    One question. B. Obama sr. was listed as African for his race on the birth cert. In 1961 he would have been listed as Negro, African is not a race and was never used to describe negroes until th 1970s. Is the long form a fake too?

  • jopa

    One question.Why isn’t the John Ensign saga discussed here?After the release of more information from Mrs, Hampton that she was not a willing partner he should be locked up for rape.Is he above the law?When asked why she didn’t come forward it was because Ensign was their only source of income at the time and that is how he was able to force himself upon her.We want justice!!Lock him up now.

  • hunter

    It took Barry, the cia the fbi god only knows how many professional forgers in and out of prison, many corrupt hawaii officials over two years to come up with a authoric appearing live birth document??? You hav got to be kidding me!!! If he had one two years ago he would have shown it! He didn’t! End of story…

  • http://none Martin

    Okay Bob:

    This is it. You’re accepting the birth document giving the Lier and Traitor a pass on this essential issue. Your credibility with me is now zero.

    It’s your blog and you have the right, as do I to go immediately after submitting this comment to drop myself from your list.

    Bye!

    • libertytrain

      Martin – how funny – Bob Livingston didn’t write this -

  • Ranger 1

    There’s a better word for most BIRTHERS . . . . . . . . . . . it’s RACIST!

    And why is it that most conservatives in this country, who seem to collectively suffer from some congenital form of cranial constipation, think that the only problem this country has is that Fortune 500 Corporations and Billionaires, . . . . DON’T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY???? What is WRONG with you people?

  • Debra

    The president was not born in Hawaii. He took two years to bribe and pay off people to come up with a fake. Anyone can come up with a computer generated form, and it wasn’t good enough so he had to come up with a long form. It took talent and too much time to present a long form that looked believable. Fortunately for some of us, we know it’s a fake. However, his real, true live birth certificate was already found in Kenya a few years ago, and was sent to the White House in 2009, and was brushed under the carpet by Nancy Pelosi. The president already had a live birth certificate in Kenya, yet he had to go through two years of coming up with a fake one just so he could pass himself off to the ignorant masses as being legitimate. Please people, please go to “www.WasObamaBorninKenya.com” and learn for yourselves and pass it on. The Obama administration doesn’t want people to have this information and that’s why they want to control the internet so hurry before they ban this website. The birth certificate from Kenya has his baby footprint on it. It would be real interesting to know if it can be used the same as a fingerprint.

  • http://personalliberty.com Tattoomama

    Have been on vacation so didn’t get to this until now–but better late than never?!? As far as Obama is concerned, if in fact the birth certificate is not a fraud, it proves that he is indeed INELIGIBLE to be president; i.e. native-born–NOT natural-born. They are not the same thing. Native born means born on the soil of the country; natural-born requires citizen parents. The Constitution required natural-born status. Obama himself proves his non-eligibility when he claims a Kenyan-born man as his father. He is an illegal president plain and simple based on HIS OWN words. As far as Osama goes–good riddance to bad rubbish. I’m sure that he and his master, Satan, are having a grand old good time together.

  • Janice Fortin

    Oh dear. If you believe EITHER of these things, there’s a bridge

    I’d like to sell ya!

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