Obama’s ‘Biggest Lie of All’

Senate Foreign Relations Committee holds a hearing on Benghazi in Washington, DC

Will we ever get all of the truth about the false explanations and misdirection from the Administration of President Barack Obama after the terrorist assaults on our consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on Sept. 11?

Probably not. But we’ve gotten a lot closer in the past few days, thanks to three courageous State Department employees who refused to be part of a cover-up and a House committee that dug long and hard to get more of the truth.

It’s too soon to know what all of the consequences of Wednesday’s hearings by the House Oversight and Government Reform committee will be. One popular White House critic was probably way too optimistic when he predicted that the revelations could bring down Obama’s Presidency.

But on the bright side, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that this story could end any hopes Hillary Clinton had of being elected President in 2016. More on this in a moment.

Whatever happens next, it is now indisputably clear that the murder of Ambassador Chris Stephens and three other Americans was planned by an al-Qaida affiliate in Libya. The CIA knew it — and told Washington. Our staff in Libya knew it — and told their superiors. Top Libyan officials knew it — and repeatedly said so.

So why was any reference to terrorism or al-Qaida carefully and deliberately removed from the “talking points” handed to our U.N. Ambassador, Susan Rice, before she made the rounds of the TV talk shows the Sunday following the attacks?

About that, we can only speculate. Because no one in authority in Obama’s White House and what was Clinton’s State Department  will fess up.

Are you really surprised?

It was deeply moving to listen to the three State Department veterans who had the guts to come forward and testify on Wednesday. I was especially impressed by Gregory Hicks, the former deputy chief of mission/charge d’affairs in Libya. He was in Tripoli, a two-hour flight from Benghazi, when Stevens called to tell him, “Greg, we’re under attack.”

Hicks told the committee that none of his efforts to get military assistance for the beleaguered Americans in Benghazi was successful. He revealed that a Special Operations team in Tripoli was ordered to “stand down” and not fly to Benghazi. The officer in charge of the team told Hicks, “I have never been so embarrassed in my life that a State Department officer has bigger balls than somebody in the military.”

Hicks said he was absolutely “dumbfounded” when he heard that an obscure anti-Islamic video was being blamed for turning a group of demonstrators into a murderous mob. “I was stunned. My jaw dropped, and I was embarrassed,” Hicks told the committee. He knew it wasn’t true. But that was the Administration’s story; and, by golly, they were going to stick with it.

Representative Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, no doubt engaged in a bit of hyperbole when he told Sean Hannity before the hearings began that his committee would force the Administration to come clean about “the biggest lie of all.” Issa said:

The Administration has made a claim that for classified reasons they changed the story. We believe right now that may be the biggest lie of all, and we intend on making the president come clean as to, quote, ‘what the classified reasons are that would justify lying to the American people.’

Gripping as the day-long hearings were, of course they didn’t force Obama or anyone in his Administration to “come clean” about the attempted cover-up. That was too much to hope for.

Still, at least one prominent critic believes that the Administration’s deceit about Benghazi could spell the end of Obama’s Presidency.

Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee didn’t mince words on his radio show earlier this week. “When a president lies to the American people and is part of a cover-up,” the one-time Republican Presidential candidate declared, “he cannot continue to govern.”

Did Huckabee really mean to suggest that Obama could be impeached over the attacks that led to the deaths of Stephens and three other Americans? It sure sounded like it. How else could you interpret comments like these: “As the facts come out, I think we’re going to see something startling. And before it’s over, I don’t think this president will finish his term unless somehow they can delay it in Congress past the next 3 ½ years.”

Huckabee is probably overstating the case. It’s certainly true that seemingly minor incidents can have enormous consequences. Who could have imagined at the time that an amateurish burglary of a Democratic Party office in the Watergate complex in Washington would ultimately force Richard Nixon to resign his Presidency? Or that a sexual escapade with an intern would lead to Bill Clinton’s impeachment?

Huckabee is not alone in warning how serious the consequences of Benghazi could be. John Bolton, our ambassador to the United Nations under George W. Bush, said that the growing scandal could lead to the “unraveling” of the Obama Administration. “This could be a hinge point for the Obama Administration,” Bolton declared. “It’s that serious for them.”

We’ll see.

While it’s too soon to declare that our lame-duck President is a dead duck politically, I think it’s very likely that the hearings and the attendant publicity may have had a major unintended consequence. They may have saved us from a Clinton Presidency in 2016.

Remember when Clinton was finally well enough to testify about the assault this past January? She lost her cool (or at least pretended to do so) during her interrogation by a Senate committee. She was almost yelling when she lashed out at Senator Roy Johnson (R-Wis.), saying, “With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night decided to go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make?”

Actually, Madame Secretary, you knew very well that the murders occurred, not because of a protest that got out of hand or because some “guys out for a walk one night decided to go kill some Americans.” The assault on our consulate was planned by an al-Qaida affiliate to coincide with the anniversary of 9/11 — and there were plenty of people who knew it.

We still don’t have “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” about the events in Benghazi on Sept. 11, or about the lies and obfuscations that that started in Washington, D.C., almost immediately thereafter.

But we do know that Clinton was part of the effort to stonewall us. And I think enough voters will remember this in 2016 to deny her what she wants more than anything else: the keys to the White House.

Let’s make sure we do our part to see that they do.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Personal Liberty

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • KG

    The Problem with most conservative right wingers is that they claim to want the “truth”,and yet fail to actually find any except for the “truth” they make-up.

    The comparison of Watergate to an “amateurish burglary of a Democratic Party office in the Watergate complex ” is a vast UNDERSTATEMENT of what actually happened. The Amateur burglars were CIA trained “black bag” operators. Or, in other words, Republican Gestapo operators ordered by the President of the united states to spy on domestic enemies. The reason why Nixon resigned is because if he remained President, he could have been arrested, put into cuffs, and taken away in a police car. But when he resigned the Presidency, since he was no longer President, he couldn’t be arrested. Bill Clinton, on the other hand, DID NOT RESIGN BECAUSE HE WAS INNOCENT. Maybe not innocent of sexual impropriety, but, hey, who doesn’t admire Kennedy’s paramours?

    Conservatives claim superiority in ‘security’ even though the biggest terrorist attack happened on their watch. And, yet, after 10 years, we have failed to secure a people more comfortable living in the stone age.

    • winder50

      And who was president nine months earlier who refused to go after Osama even when he knew where he was? If Clinton had gotten Osama then, 9 11 would never have happened. And if Obama isn’t responsible for what has happened to the country five years after he was elected, how could you hold Bush responsible for 911 when he had only been president for nine months when it had happened? That had been in in the works for years before. The problem with Benghazi for Obama and Clinton is the same thing that brought down Nixon. It wasn’t really the event but the coverup that had gotten Nixon. If you expect to hold Republicans responsible for their actions, then in fairness you need to do the same for the Democrats.

      • KG

        Hey, you had your crook for 8 years, I want MY crook in there for 8 too.

        • Ringgo1

          Yeah, two wrongs make it right. You already had Clinton there for 8 years.

          • KG

            Oh yea.When everyone who wanted a job could find one. Oh, that was a terrible time,wasn’t it?

            How much of a surplus did Clinton leave for W to squander?

          • hippybiker

            Moron, the only reason Clinton had a so called surplus is because like LBJ, he robbed Social Security with the help of the “Man Bear Pig” Al Gore, and thats why its broke!

          • chocopot

            And you forgot to mention that a large part of “the surplus” was the result of slashing the military budget severely and setting us up for what we have now, which is a military too small and weak to defend us and our interests.

          • Joe Hammond

            Can you define what our “interests” are? When I see where our 300 foreign bases are and what they are doing I can only ask where do our interests end and corporate interests begin? Or are they the same thing? The oil of Iraq goes to Communist China after thousands were maimed and killed in an invasion based on lies from Dick Cheney. Is that in our interests or the interests of the corportions that have shipped so many manufactoring jobs to the Communist Slave Kingdom? Oil from Texas is being shipped to Communist China as well from ports such as Corpus Christi, Texas. And now our miltary-industrial complex wants to crack Iran in order to save Israel from destruction even though the Jewish State has over 400 nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver them onto 400 Iranian targets. Why? More taxpayer monies into the pockets of the dividend holders…….
            Clinton, Bush 2, Obama…….The Republic is dead! Long live the Fascist State!!!!

          • Capitalist at Birth

            Post ignored due to lack of factual or intellectual content.

          • Karolyn

            You’re kidding right? The DOD is as bloated as any other department and needs to be cut now!

          • Flashy

            Take a look…SSI isn’t broke. And at the time Clinton left office, it was growing. nice try in stating Bush II didn;t squander a budget and revenues which was about to begin paying off ALL our debt…like in 10 years paying it off.

          • Capitalist at Birth

            There was no surplus. The Clinton Administration changed the accounting procedures to make it look better than it really was. It was only because of the Republican controlled House that the budget was brought closer into balance. Clinton decided to go along after vetoing the budget once. There was one year where we paid down the debt by I believe it was $ 1 Billion. Your distortion of the facts will not go unchallenged. I didn’t ignore this post, because of the brevity.

          • Flashy

            Post ignored due to lack of factual or intellectual content.

          • KG

            HAW< HAW< HAW!!!

          • Flashy

            Post ignored due to lack of factual or intellectual content..

          • JeffH

            None, nada, zero…but Clinton did leave a $133.29 billion deficit and Clinton did increase the debt by $1.4 trillion during his 2 terms.

          • Bob666

            Hate to bust your Bubble Jeff,

            But while Clinton did increase the National debt (as ALL presidents before him), Democrats tend to leave smaller debt increases than republicans with Regan being the worst. I believe what KG was referring to was the Budget deficit and Clinton had three of only five budget surpluses in the last fifty years.


          • JeffH

            You’re not bursting my bubble at all but I di think you’re getting caught up in the R-D paradigm.

            Time and time again, anyone reading the mainstream news or reading articles on the Internet will read the claim that President Clinton not only balanced the budget, but had a surplus. This is then used as an argument to further highlight the fiscal irresponsibility of the federal government under the Bush administration.

            The government can have a surplus even if it has trillions in debt, but it cannot have a surplus if that debt increased every year.

            In no year did the national debt go down, nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a surplus that Bush subsequently turned into a deficit.

            The Myth of the Clinton Surplus

            As far as D’s tend to leave smaller debt increases…big government spending is just that no matter whose in the WH.

            I’ll admit that Clinton was clearly the most fiscally responsible when compared to the 2 Bush’s and Obama but no president in history has racked up more debt and increased the deficit more than Obama.

            As bad as Reagan’s economic policies were, he clearly wasn’t the worst, just as bad as Bush I and worse than Bush II…but Obama is clearly the worst of them all by almost twice as much.

            The bottom line is that American politicians don’t know anything about economics. They are guessing — as I think most economists and pundits are — and they seize on almost any idea that sounds good at the time.

          • Bob666

            OMG JeffH

            I think there may be music from the twilight zone playing as you are starting to make sense to me!

            “The bottom line is that American politicians don’t know anything about economics”-Maybe, as some have more of a clue than others.

            But, at the end of the day-they are politicians (D/R) and politicians look after their own self interest as well as the interest of those who finance their elections and that means that you and I get screwed.

        • bfaunce

          Yeah, KG, but your crook is going to get us all killed. Did you see where he relieved Adm Gaouette and Gen Ham for attempting to try and save the brave people in Benghazi? He ordered the Stand Down order. Of course you don’t really care about that because you had no kin involved, huh?

          • Flashy

            who ordered the stand down order? And what..exactly would have a strike by aircraft really have done? And sending in four special Ops soldiers? Against an armed rocket attack by paramilitary al Qaeda? four????

          • Wizzardly

            Just one AC130 circling overhead or an F-16 fly-by would have dispersed the attackers and saved those lives. If you’ve never seen what a gunship can do, just ask any of the Khe Sahn defenders about their impact. Two UNARMED former SEALS ran to the fight and managed to kill 65 Al Qaeda and forestall the compound’s fall. Four additional, fully equipped warriors could have stopped the battle by killing enough Al Qaeda to discourage the rest, or at least held off the attackers until the administration could have been shamed into doing the right thing. But discrediting the fiction that Al Qaeda was finished, or even acknowledging the terrorists’ existence, could have jeopardized BHO’s campaign, so a coverup had to be quickly contrived as the compound was allowed to burn and Americans were allowed to perish while BHO continued sleeping. Political expediency is the most important thing to this integrity-challenged, traitorous, faithless administration. Good Lord, how can anyone not see what a travesty this gang is? It could not be plainer that their platitudes and continual lies about caring for the little people are just cover for their lust for power and desire to saddle us all with the yoke of dependency, and they will do anything, sacrifice anyone else, to get and keep that power.

          • Flashy

            “Just one AC130 circling overhead or an F-16 fly-by would have dispersed the attackers and saved those lives.”

            You really think so? I don’t think anything would have called off the attack. Something was going down…(see my post above for some of the situational questions)…i think it was important enough to al Qaeda to have a suicide mission with those assets if need be.

            Add it up.

          • Wizzardly

            If they were on a suicide mission, the AC-130 or a spec-op team would have made that goal a reality. If only…

          • S.C.Murf

            Evidently you have not been privy to what our men are capable of. You ever see a Cobra bearing down on the enemy, mini guns blazing, M-79’s going off faster than a full auto Colt AR 15? A C-130 gun ship bringing hell-fire down for cover? Napalm being dropped on a section of jungle and turning the enemy into crispy critters? And that’s old technology. All one wants to do is find cover any cover. If indeed our troops had been sent in, and not told to stand down, the outcome would have been very different, very different indeed

            up the hill

          • Flashy

            In an urban setting, civilians all around, and the ambassador in the building literally within yards of the suicidal attackers. Uh huh sure. Weapons may be accurate these days, but not that accurate.

            C’mon..get real

          • Capitalist at Birth

            Post ignored due to lack of factual or intellectual content.

        • hippybiker

          You sir, are what Lenin, and most likely your “Magic Negro” Obama refer to as “an useful idiot.”

        • Wizzardly

          That’s actually funny. “He may be a crook, buy he’s our crook.” We may disagree, but you do have a sense of humour.

        • claud

          You’re an idiot sir !!!!!

      • KG

        It’s not a “cover-up” as much as its a propaganda campaign against our president for having the audacity to try and actually help everyday Americans, not the elites that populate this board.

        • winder50

          Give me a break!

        • Ringgo1

          “Elites”? You’re grasping at straws! Elites my xxx. Any LIE will do for you, KG.

        • hippybiker

          Yeah, he is really helping us a lot. Have you been to the grocery store lately? How about gassing up your vehicle, or paying your utilities? How dare you call people like me elite! I’m just your average senior citizen trying to make ends meet. Please grow up and dummy up.

          • Flashy

            Ummm…Steve….have you asked your Congressperson those questions…and asked them point blank and gotten anything but fluff? If it is a GOP member…that’s all you will get is fluff and evasion. Because it is the very policies and obstructions by the House GOP that has prevented anything being done.

            Food? Ya hear anything about a drought hammering the corn crops last year? Remember the forecasts by every commodity dealer stating we would feel those effects right about now by way of higher food prices? (you should take a look at cattle futures and you’ll see the price of beef going down in the Fall). I suggest watching a documentary called King Corn and you’ll see how pervasive to our food, energy, industry and clothing etc corn really is.

            Fuel prices? now that’s a good question. oil production is up. Energy is abundant. maybe you should ask big oil about that.

            better yet, ask your GOP member those pointed questions…and listen to the fluff and evasive response…

          • Karolyn

            OMG! Gas is cheaper than it was last year at this time! Of course, it is cheaper here in SC with lower taxes. At WalMart as of Wednesday, it was 3.09, and you can get 10 cents off using a gift card or 15 cents using a Walmart card.

          • JeffH

            Historical Price Charts

            http://www.GasBuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx?city1=USA Average&city2=&city3=&crude=n&tme=12&units=us

          • Bob666
          • JeffH

            666, thanks. I checked out the whole site when I found it. The low for gas here in Central California, Fresno, is at $3.739…a week ago I paid $3.659 at the same place and in the SF Bay Area gas normally runs .15 to .20 cents a gallon higher.

            It sucks when you feel like your getting a deal at $3.099.

          • Bob666

            In 2007, I took a road trip from Seattle to San Fan along Highway 101 and paid just under $5.00 /gallon. I spend three weeks at my place in the North West every July-August and gas is higher there.

            But “W” was the man in the Whitehouse at that time and I have not seen prices that high since.

          • JeffH

            And to think that some people actually have the audacity to believe that “W” was a conservative…nothing could be farther from the truth. He was a big government and globalist progressive too…and in many ways, there are even more comparable similarities to “W” and Obama than Obama supporters would care to admit.

            Whether there is a “D” or an “R” after their names is meaninless…it’s ideology and agenda and a lack of Constitutional adherence and respect that I judge our elected ones by.

          • Bob666

            Holy Crap JeffH ,
            We have found common ground twice in two weeks, Hell just might freeze over? That is why I joined the libertarian party over twenty years ago.

          • JeffH

            Like everyone else I have my opinions…but the one constant is that I believe in the country our founders created and I believe in and support the Constitution(Supreme Law)and the Framer’s intent.

            We should look to the Framers’ intentions, not because we are bound by their intentions as such, but because we share their intentions to limit the power of government in a way that enhances and protects the liberty of the people. We are “bound” to adhere to their principles because they are as vital to protecting liberty as the principles by which one designs a bridge are to preventing its collapse. We ignore them at our peril and unfortunaley that is pretty much whyat we’re faced with today.

            What we’re faced with today will probably become a very important crossroad in this countries hisory since the civil rights movement, which I fully supported then and now.

            What we the people have to choose from is liberty or tyranny. I know exactly where I stand and tyranny is unacceptable.

            Bottom line is, “I love my country but I despise my government”. The majority in government, our elected representatives up and down, don’t respect the Constitution or the people they represent and function solely on the whims of personal ideology, power, greed, cronyism and political agendas which should be unacceptable to anybody that is not addicted to government control and freebies. Freedom isn’t and has never been free.

            Note: The big greedy crony corporations could not exist without the blessings of their government cronies.
            The ills of crony capitalism can’t be cured from the bottom up. Start at the top to eliminate the elected crony representatives and we can put a stop to the crony corporations

            The evidence is right there in front of everybody…if they really care at all.

          • Capitalist at Birth

            Post ignored due to lack of factual or intellectual content..

          • momo

            Let’s just ask flashman for the answers, he seems to have them at his fingertips…NOT. Light up another cancer stick flasho and take seven more minutes off your life.

          • Karolyn

            And, of course, it is ALL his fault, right?

          • Capitalist at Birth

            Yes it is. If you insist on your nonsensical remarks and comments I will have to put you in the to be ignored column.

          • Karolyn

            Oh, no! I’m to be banished! CAB – All I try to do is to point out to people how ridiculous their remarks are. Like saying “liberals think they are always right.” Well, in all seriousness, don’t other political viewpoints think they’re always right? Why can’t people think before they post stupid remarks? Everything going wrong in the world is most certainly not all the fault of ONE man! Get real!

          • Karolyn

            Gas is cheaper than it was last year at this time and may go down below $3, which, if using a WM card, it is here in SC.

          • Capitalist at Birth

            What is your point? Gas prices will stay higher than they were when Obama took office and began his intentional destruction of the Economy in the U.S.

          • Karolyn

            Nothing is ever the same as it was. Things change. Do you seriously believe that gas prices would always stay the same? Look at what the rest of the world is paying!

          • Flashy

            Post ignored due to lack of factual or intellectual content.

        • chocopot

          You are truly a delusional left-wing hack and defender of treason.

        • Wizzardly

          Ignore this troll.

      • Flashy

        “And who was president nine months earlier who refused to go after Osama even when he knew where he was?”

        Talk about telling a big lie often enough it becomes the truth to some..this whopper is proof. What are you speaking of? When Clinton sent the rockets into Afghanistan missing bin Laden by minutes and was raked over the coals by the GOP? When he bombed Sudan and again just missed bin Laden but was ridiculed by the GOP for an “aspirin factory” (which we now discover was in fact a WMD gas storage) ? Or when he refused to pay off a Sudanese warlord who claimed to be able to turn bin Laden over (which we now know was a false claim since bin Laden wasn’t in that country then, instead hiding in Afghanistan by then)? When bin Laden was proclaimed to be the most dangerous man to the US and Clinton told the Bush II officials such when he was leaving office (including Bush II himself)? Or when Clinton cut off all monies to the Afghan regime (Taliban) because they were harboring bin Laden (aid which was resumed by Bush II in the summer of 2001) ?

        Just when was Clinton supposed to have had bin Laden?

        • chocopot

          Selective memory doesn’t change facts and truth.

          • Flashy

            I agree..that’s why I try and correct all the lies and twists of fact and reality the extremists post here … criminey…Clinton let bin laden go..jeesh….only a completely ignorant person would half believe that one ….

        • Wizzardly

          Ah, so there WERE WMDs? thanks.

          • Flashy

            You refer to the Sudan chemical factory Clinton took out? the one which the GOP railed about being nothing more than an “aspirin factory” ? Yeah…that one.

    • DavidL

      The secret to Nixon was money. He resigned because he was going to be impeached (Goldwater went to him and personally told him he was going to be). If impeached and removed from office, he would have lost his retirement pension.

    • chocopot

      The Democratic Party: the party of lies, corruption, and treason. Just keep defending them and prove to us all who and what you really are.

    • Don 2

      Clinton was innocent of what: Lying to the American people on national television? Perjury?
      You people admire Clinton? Talk about low standards…..wow.

    • Don 2

      And Franklin D. Roosevelt was the Democrat president when Pearl Harbor was subject to the largest attack on our homeland, while all of our destroyers were parked in rows of easy targets. We were fortunate that the aircraft carriers were out to sea.

      • Bob666

        And your point is???????

        • Don 2

          Yo Bob. How ya doing?

          My point is: Why do the libs keep going back to times that no longer matter, in an effort to try to muddy the waters relative to what is going on here and now. So, if libs want to bring up nonsense about a past Republican president, well, lets go back even further and bring up more nonsense about a past Democrat president.

      • JeffH

        Battleships, not Destroyers.

        • Don 2

          You’re right. Battleship Row.

          • JeffH

            Don 2, at least you made an honest mistake and one that was easily corrected…a liberal would have denied ever saying it or blamed it on Bush.

  • peter

    No chance of that happening! The American voters continue their love affair with the Clintons and Obama no matter what they get up to. Hilary will be the next President and it has already been cast in stone: no contest here! So the only way for the American people to go now, is down the tube and sadly Bill, Hilary and Obama don’t care a damn! If you really want gangsters to run your Country, then you get exactly what you wish for. Killing folks who get in the way is part of everyday life to them – totally meaningless fools who stand in their way are not just dispensable, they are eliminated, so prepare for some more disgraceful behaviour from your revered leaders, who are unconsciable, morally bereft of any decency and can only do you more harm – that is what you voted for and that is what you got and will get again in 2016 – useless to humanity and the world and despised as well by all who are capable of conscious thought.

    • FreedomFighter

      Well said.

      The are more than just gangsters, they are Luciferians.

      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Of course they are also members of the Bilderburgs. Here are some sources to ponder and hope they come true.
        Especially look at the videos and read what Theodore Roosevelt says about patriotism. These are totally the opposite of the left and the 5th column. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
        “All efforts of the abolitionists are calculated to lead to the most alarming and dangerous consequences, and all such efforts have an inevitable tendency to diminish the happiness of the people.”
        James Buchanan
        U.S. President
        1856 Democratic Platform
        One of the worst presidents in history
        *When he said this, he was talking about if they freed the slaves. Would the libturds/progturds be thinking the same thing today, if we were to free the Anericans from their modern day chains of slavery?

    • eli

      Wrong, Hillary will never be president! And you can take that to the bank!

      • Bob666

        Well Eli,
        I hope that you like losing money because if she decides to run, she will win. In part because she has high poll ratings, but more importantly, because there is no one in the GOP who can fill her jock strap.

        • Bill Henry

          Who would want to wear it? I think that you may be surprised, at least that is my hope for the 2014 election. I know that Obama lost a lot of points with the middle class with his lies about taxes. Hope that makes a difference especially in the Senate races.

          • Bob666

            Yo Bill,
            the mid terms will be a good indication of what Society is willing to vote for regarding the 2016 presidential elections. You need to remember that Obama is at 48% and Congress is at 8% when it comes to approval ratings

        • Shirley Henson

          She will win because of the amnesty of twenty-plus million illegals..

          • Bob666

            Or maybe because of the long line of duds that will run against her only to experience total humiliation?

      • satelliter

        That’s exactly what people said about Obama’s second term… Did you forget about voter fraud, illegals voting and voting machines programmed to change your vote?

        • ClintB

          Consider also the illegal alien assassin of the

          Mexican presidential candidate , Colosio. He had in his possession several US voter registrations. How many more of them are there?

    • satelliter

      Keep voting for the same parties and keep getting the same results. All I hear is complaining….about Bush and about Obama. My question is why is everyone so afraid of the Libertarian Party? Considering what the left and right have done to our country, why not consider dumping the whole bunch and try something different? The Libertarian Party is the ONLY one who will stop all this lying stealing and remove all the government waste (well, a lot of it anyway). Smaller government, less regulations, eliminate foreign aid, the IRS, Federal education indoctrination system that teaches your kids that nothing is immoral. Less taxes, less welfare and stop free handouts. Enforcing immigration laws, no freebies for illegals and seal the borders. Just a few of the things everyone complains about, that ONLY the Libertarian Party will change. Why is it again… you prefer a Democrat or Republican?

      • Bill Henry

        I am seriously considering it. It seems that in the Senate they don’t vote for bills for political reasons and job protection simply because they know they will pass without their votes. Am surprised that some legislation has been passed by the house that seems sort of left leaning. My only reservation is that it will pull votes away from the Republicans causing enough of them to lose and increase the Democrats majority. I know that is a foolish reason, but one that I have concern about.

  • vietnamvet1971

    Poor “Holier than Thou” Looney Liberals they live on a higher level than us poor dumb Peons, they are RIGHT all the time and we should not ask or expect them to come down to our level. Just Like Hitler Clinton’s Infamous last words “What difference does it make now” 4 Americans are dead so leave me alone and just go away.

    • Robbie

      Clinton’s point – if you care to know – was that it mattered very little what the event was called. A demonstration? A riot? A planned attack? Fact is Lybia was – and is – awash with armed militias itching to fight. An inciteful video came out which did cause demonstrations and riots all across the Muslim world including Cairo and Benghazi. The fact that armed militiamen then attacked the consulate is also a fact. All of this was all rolled up into one horrible event. Call it what you like. And, by the way, armed Islamists could attack the U.S. consulate in whatever Nigerian city or the embassy in Lagos later today and what could the mighty U.S. & A. do about it? Precious little I’m afraid.

      • Michael Shreve

        No, Clinton’s point was, don’t try to pin this on me NOW, we’ve already swept it under the rug once.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        “Who cares how they died.”
        Hitlery Clinton
        No voice of remorse or concern in that woman. Here are 3 people, Americans, that Obama bin Laden refuses to help or look for.
        Just like the left and the 5th column to leave them to rot. Not the actions of an American. Ooops! I keep forgetting that he is not a natural born citizen. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “The approaching festival of Easter, and the merits and mercies of our Redeemer have inspired me with the hope of finding mercy before my judge.”
        Charles Carroll
        Founding father
        Devout Christian

        • Deerinwater

          Ms Clinton expressed much remorse. While you have taken her statement out of context to fed your purpose.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Actually, she said it plainly and without any fluctuations in her speech. To say “Who cares how they died.”, shows that she couldn’t care less about them or what happened there. If you think differently, fine. No problem. But alas! We knew she and Obama bin Laden screwed up big time on this one. Here is an article showing how a whistleblower was demoted and reassigned. Must be from telling the truth.
            I also remember, “All this for a damned flag” and “For the first time in my life, I am proud of my country.”
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “I have tender reliance on the mercy of the Almighty; through the merits of the Lord Jesus Christ. I am a sinner. I look to Him for mercy; pray for me.”
            Alexander Hamilton
            July 12, 1804
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Jana

            Thanks Samurai for this wonderful piece. Here it is:

            Friday, 10 May 2013 05:41 PM
            By Todd Beamon

            Benghazi whistleblower Greg Hicks has been demoted to a desk job for speaking out on the Sept. 11, 2012, attacks at the U.S. post in Libya that killed Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans, his
            attorney said on Friday.

            “He was offered a choice: no job or a job that doesn’t mean anything,” attorney Victoria Toensing told “The Steve Malzberg Show” on Newsmax TV. “It’s a desk job.”

            Hicks, the former deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Libya, testified on Wednesday before the House Oversight Committee about what happened
            that fateful night.

            He challenged the State Department’s initial claims that the attacks were caused by a spontaneous reaction to an anti-Islamic video posted on YouTube.

            Hicks, who was Stevens’ deputy, has since been reassigned to a desk job. And he could have that or no job at all, Toensing told Malzberg.

            “It’s like telling a starving man, ‘Hey, you get this choice: You can either have no food or you get rotten steak. What would you like?'” the former federal prosecutor said. “Would you like a rotten piece of beef or no food at all?”

            Toensing accused the Obama White House of trying to “destroy the messenger,” and that includes using various governmental departments and media outlets.

            “Administration officials say he stalked the desk job he described as a demotion,” she said. “It’s just little old me out here — and they’ve got taxpayers’ money, the whole press office, and the whole general counsel’s
            office trying to do him in. It’s outrageous.”

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            It is commonly known as covering your backside, not worrying about collateral damage. Something I, nor my platoons, had any of in Iraq or Afghanistan. Here is a funny video by Jodi Miller.
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “To compell a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical.”
            Thomas Jefferson

        • Robbie

          You or someone you sheepishly follow made up that quote.

      • Don 2

        We’ll sick the mighty Canadian military on them. That’ll scare the hell out of them, eh!

        • Robbie


      • vietnamvet1971

        Typical Looney Liberal response just like Dumb Hitler Clinton since you are so close to her and know what she meant Kiss a little BUTT next time, Blab, Blab, you sound so Smart like ALL Liberal Pukes you are a Legend in your own MINDS.

        • Robbie

          I take it you did not agree with the points I made in my posting. Is there anything specific you would like to call me on? We can see you’re pretty good with swearing and rude language but can you say anything intelligent as a rebuttal?

    • Karolyn

      Bur aren’t conservatives “RIGHT” all the time too?

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Post ignored due to lack of factual or intellectual content.

        • Deerinwater

          False logic and misapplied reasoning.

      • vietnamvet1971

        DUH, No because you “Holier than Thou” Know-It- All Liberals just tell us Peons what to do, what to say, what to think, Gee please save us from ourselves.

        • Karolyn

          Please don’t put me into a box called “liberal.’ I follow no path in its totality but pick and choose those points that fit in with my ideals. But, come on, viet! Doesn’t everybody who really believes what they say is right think they are right? Duh! I would say that “holier than thou” fits more people of the conservative persuasion more.

    • Deerinwater

      It’s not being Holly or Looney to ask someone to explain their “reasoning” . ~ What information do you want to know GD it ? Are you able to assimilate it when you hear it?

      That it might not please you or sound like what you want to believe ~ we can’t help you with that. Maybe you need to go see a good doctor to help you with cognizant thinking skills.

      All “news” is not good. ~

  • Flashy

    Yeah, to save face during the election someone screwed the pooch in concocting the cover story what really was happening in Benghazi. Who gave Rice the talking points ? We may one day find out. Maybe.

    What one should do though is step by step think this through. One, why was the CIA involved in concocting the cover story? Think this through… An Ambassador with connections to the Libyan political inner circle. A CIA op, a Special Forces, and a former CIA op (are they ever former..especially in a country in such turmoil?). A far away consulate…and an Ambassador who knew the minimal security. Meeting late at night. And Al Qaeda wasting precious assets to get them.

    Notice..throughout the recent hearings and all along…not one GOP leader who received the secret briefing has asked just what the Ambassador was doing there. He wasn’t an idiot..he knew where he was and the situation. That’s a question we should ask…and ponder whether we should know the answer to. Consider that soon thereafter, the Libyan president goes on TV and publicly apologizes to the US…in English and Arabic. When was the last time something like that occurred ? Also consider that at the same time, Egyptian riots had broken out..and right after that, Morsi of Egypt called out the troops to protect US interests…and publicly came out claiming the US government had nothing to do with the tape or was a bad guy in the then recent turmoil..and also resumed natural gas shipments through the pipeline to Israel.

    Something big was coming down with the meeting Stevens was at. Something too big for us to know

    And those who either don’t know what it was, or don’t care in order to score political points (ask yourself if that is a good thing to place aside our national security to score political points and if that is what you want in your GOP leaders) … are raking over the coals this administration.

    OK..someone at CIA screwed the pooch in sending out the talking points and hanging Rice out to dry. And it came close to the election so the administration had to stick with it. And now being humiliated for it.

    Does it rank up there with Iran/Contra, Lebanon and the Marines being killed, Watergate, 9/11 ? Get real. none of those involved national security secrets. Will it bring down this administration…not a chance. Will we ever know what happened? maybe in 50 years or so.

    Remember, Hicks probably wasn’t in the know as the second in command. And he is embittered now having broached the Golden Rule of State…keep it in house when it involves foreign affairs and national security. And he is highly connected to the GOP and has an ax to grind. So he likely is embellishing. He is coming across as self righteous. Also, not being highlighted is the independent review conducted by two individuals which states nothing could have been done…one a former Bush II State Dept appointee.

    Finally, what exactly is Benghazi? It’s not a Presidential scandal. The President most likely at the time wasn’t directly involved. It’s not an Obama scandal as much as the TPers and extremists have wet dreams about…no, it’s a Clinton scandal. She was head of State. In the aftermath, she was the one who kept to the talking points CIA gave out.

    is it a cover up? Give me a break. Those who should know, do know. That much is obvious given the silence by those in the Committees briefed on the situation. By those in the leadership ranks given briefings.

    This will be noise and political fodder used to garner monies by the right wing extremist groups and pols. It will be used against Clinton should she decide to make a run for the office. But will it bring down this administration? not a chance. Dream on.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Post ignored due to lack of factual or intellectual content.

      • KG

        Do you work at being a jerk, or does it come naturally?

        I wonder if this will be deleted.

      • Deerinwater

        You would have to read a post to come to that conclusion CAB , so it could not have been ignored.

        You are consistently displaying to us manifested flawed logic and circular reasoning.

        Why don’t you give it a rest or come clean about your superpowers and how you were sent to earth by superior being from the future already full grown and can see the unseen and heard the unspoken.

    • Don 2

      I wasn’t going to read this post because of the length, but once I started, I was LMAO at your feeble attempt to spin Benghazi. Flashy, you need a new job. You suck at this one. You have to be a much better convincing liar to be successful at what you are trying to do, instead of writing comedy scripts for the amusement of Conservatives.

      Obama, through Ambassador Stevens, was setting up a clandistine gun-running operation with a rebel group. The al Qaeda affiliate found out about it, and wanted to cut the head off of the snake.

      And where was Obama during the 7-hour attack? Playing pick-up basketball, or already enroute to his fundraiser? We’ll find out!

      • Flashy

        “Obama, through Ambassador Stevens, was setting up a clandistine
        gun-running operation with a rebel group. The al Qaeda affiliate found
        out about it, and wanted to cut the head off of the snake”

        Ummm..what rebel group since we were supporting the new Libyan government? Egypt was also under a new government and we weren’t against it. Tunisia was also under a new government and we weren’t against it. Algeria is basically a silent ‘we aren’t getting involved’ situation…and we aren’t against its government.

        So just who the heck is this “rebel group” you’re saying we were going to run guns through? Santa Claus and his merry elves?

        • Don 2

          That group that Obama and Stevens were running guns to Flashy, would be the Muslim Brotherhood, who are in bed with both Saudi Arabia and the Obama administration. Al Qaeda and al Qaeda affiliates are enemies of Saudi Arabia because they want to take down the Saudi Kingdom. The U.S. supports Saudi Arabia. That’s why it was necessary to go after the U.S. Ambassador, and stop the gun-running to al Qaeda’s enemy.

          By the way, the Washington Post is about as trustworthy as MSNBC.

  • Alex

    I am having trouble finding all of the facts, so help me out here if you have done any better, but according Jon Stewart, during the Cheneybush Regime U.S. embassies around the world were attacked 54 times with a net loss of ELEVEN American lives—where was your outrage then?

    Stewart also deftly turned the tables on the Dan Issa, the arsonist rep, by pointing out that Issa worked to deny expenditures for security upgrades to our embassies in a bid to—what else?—make President Obama look bad, and therefore it is Issa who is responsible for the four deaths in Benghazi. Touche!

    Anyway, you Fright Wingers were unable to derail Obama with William Ayers, Rev. Wright, Solyndra, Benghazi, Romneycare, Van Jones, Guantanamo, ETC—no way will Benghazi keep Hillary out of the White House!

    So stew on this: Eight years of Obama followed by eight years of Hillary and you whiners will have no sway on the Supreme Court!

    • Wizzardly

      Jon Stewart? Oh, yeah, there’s an unbiased provider of facts. Most of those 54 attacks occurred in war zones during war times. Blaming Issa for BHO and Hillary’s politically-motivated forfeiture of American lives is just dishonest.

      • Flashy

        “Most of those 54 attacks occurred in war zones during war times.”

        And Libya isn’t a war zone at the time? Seriously?

        • Capitalist at Birth

          Post ignored due to lack of factual or intellectual content.

        • Jana

          But they weren’t ignored, and the help that could have been sent to them wasn’t told to STAND DOWN like it was with Benghazi 2 times! Where is YOUR outrage?

          54 attacks and only 11 lost in 54 attacks? That is really great especially when we had one attack and four lost in just one attack.

    • Patriot

      So sad, that you are so propagandized that you really have no clue what is happening to our country and it seems you do not care! Most people that think like Alex are so dumbed down by the system that they will not realize what they have lost until it affects them to the highest degree. Many of us are trying to get the word out about the tyranny that lurks within the political class that is destructive to our very way of life. Sadly, many good people have not learned from history and will help slide us into the cesspool that has become DC. I pray that a large majority wake up to these facts and understand that both parties are the same side of the coin, there is truly but a few guarding and protecting our liberties!

      • Red

        Patriot, I assume you can add. The liberals are in the majority by a large margin. One third of the population is on welfare, 12,000,000 are poised to rush in through amnesty, near 50% of the of the workforce is employed by some level of government, and 10,000,000 people are receiving disability trough Social Security. Blacks, women, underthirties, government workers, and unions are not about to give up their government benefits and “freebies” to any party that would reduce, or take any of that away.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      You get your news from a Comedian? Need I say more. Post ignored for lack of factual or intellectual content.

    • Michael Shreve

      Do you children realize how much it diminishes your argument when you natter about Georgie down the street getting away with it.

      • JeffH

        Two wrongs never did equal one right…unless you’re a liberal/progressive.

      • Wizzardly

        If they complain about GB43 doing the same thing and it was wrong, then where is their disapproval of BHO for doing the same stuff? Their arguments have the cogent consistency you might expect from a 5 year-old.

    • Jana

      I answered you under flashy so I thought I had better do it again so you would not miss it.
      But they weren’t ignored,
      and the help that could have been sent to them wasn’t told to STAND
      DOWN like it was with Benghazi 2 times! Where is YOUR outrage?

      54 attacks and only 11 lost in 54 attacks? That is really great
      especially when we had one attack and four lost in just one attack.

  • Karolyn

    Do you REALLY think this could end Hilary’s hopes if she runs for Pres? I don’t think so. By then it will be long forgotten. I’m sure it will be brought up by the opposition; but then again, who knows what will happen in the next few years?

    • Joe Hammond

      The American people have very short memories as well as one of the poorest grasps of their own history. In classes I once taught in college I would ask how many freshman knew what the Holocaust was and out of 25 students I would get about 4 hands that would go up. Then one day a student had the courage to say “Who cares?”……..In 2016 this will be a past issue in which the electorate will ask “Who cares?”…….

      • Wizzardly

        “And what difference, at this point, does it make?”. I hosted a US Constitution discussion table at a local college. The lack of information, knowledge and understanding among the young folks I talked with was staggering. I didn’t expect anybody to know everything, but I did expect everybody to know something. Boy was I wrong. All fodder for the liberal serf-farm and the yoke of dependency.

    • hungry4food

      Hilary will be charged with Contempt of Congress and this will be seen as a NON starter for her bid to be elected as a Uniting force as president of the USA . Going into retirement is all she has left !!!!!

      • Karolyn

        Wishful thinking?

        • hungry4food

          She is just getting started with her lying about what the truth was regarding Benghazi . She will be Implicated in the stand down order that led to the murders of the 4 Americans all in the name of appeasing the Muslim Brotherhood with the detail of security for the embassy that splintered and opened the door to the attack that they are trying to cover-up along with the Weapons that were taken from the compound that they were there trying to gather up from the Qaddafi take down . All of this coming down during the reelection was the catalysis for the LIE !!!!!

          Her and Bill are cut from the same mold and it stinks to high heaven !!!!

          • Charlie

            Here’s some food for thought,,, Moe Qaddafi’s take down, is a mild way to state , “Murder one” by The International Banker , same as the FED,,, the FED and others have been working on taking out Moe and his sons for at least 10 years… Moe was a Libyan Hero and now he’s a martyrize Hero…. This conflict in Bengahzi and Libya is just beginning………………..

          • hungry4food
          • Charlie

            Are you a Christian per Acts 2:38?… The web site you show, IS NOT a Bible Christian web site,,,but,, has some interesting info on it……………………

        • hungry4food

          OH have you seen the latest attempt to appease with MONEY the Younger
          voters NOW to take their Attention off this Benghazi SCANDLE ??

          Obama wants to BUY the College Students out of their Loan Commitments
          and build a Government Work force loyal to his Government , can you say
          Civilian ARMY ?? !!!!

          Obama Plans to Expand Student Loan Forgiveness


          • Karolyn

            I read the article and find it odd that it is dated May ’13, but includes the line “But economists with Barclays estimated the current program alone will cost the government $300 billion between now until 2010,”

            Is this just old news rehashed to stir the pot? I did think I heard about a couple of years ago. Have you heard any of the horror stories of people overburdened by student debt? One I heard a while ago was a retired couple having to pay their son’s student loan because he couldn’t find work. RETIRED people paying their ADULT middle-aged son’s student loan!

          • Karolyn

            My bad. I guess it was a typo on the writer’s part. I heard this on the news. However, I do know I had heard about it last year.

          • hungry4food

            Obama certainly has NO MONEY left to pay these loans either !!!!!

  • DavidL

    Blah, blah, blah. More Republican bat-crap-crazy. The diplomat requested more money funding for security of the embassy. The Republicans in congress said no. The death of the embassy people is on the cheap, ignorant, bat-crap- crazy. Republicans. Republicans have given us Watergate, Iran-contra, secret prisons, torture, the great recession, and self-serving obstruction to prevent our recovery.. They have no credibility to criticize anyone.

    • Flashy

      great post

      • Flashy

        My comment on Great post was the original from David L…

    • Barb

      You must be listening to the media.

      Obviously you did not watch the Congressional Hearings. Charlene Lamb (Obama’s Administration DOS) testified under oath that the budget had nothing to do with extra security being denied.

      • JRRS

        Barb these people have no interst in the truth. They are the same one’s who bashed Romney into oblivion and did not vote aginst Obama. Now they are back at it. Say it long enough and loud enough and it becomes fact.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      The Republicans had no control over the budgeting of money for this particular instance. The Government was operating on a continuing resolution. The last budget that was passed and signed by the President was fiscal 2009, which was a Democrat Senate and House of Representatives. The security was pulled out by Hilary Clinton not the Republicans in Congress. Where do you get your facts? Off the back of a Wheaties box, perchance? All of your future posts will be ignored for lack of factual or intellectual content. I strongly recommend others follow my example. These lying fools have nothing of importance to offer.

    • Michael Shreve

      BUT, there was PLENTY of money to beef up security in FRANCE cause IT’S so dangerous.

      • Don 2

        A good point rarely mentioned.

    • Jana

      The Republicans aren’t the ones who went out and lied to the public about what started the attack. The Republicans did not force Rice to go out and lie to the American people 5 times in one day about what started this attack. The Republicans did not look into the eyes of the parents and families of the 4 dead Americans and lie to them. It was Hillary and Obama!
      So go —–“Blah, blah, blah. More Republican bat-crap-crazy” somewhere else!

      • Don 2

        Now the Dems are even tweeting that it was the Republicans that made them change the talking points(12 times) on Benghazi because if they didn’t, the Republicans would beat up on them for not paying attention to warnings. Pretty ludicrous…..now the whole Democrat party is claiming “victim” status. What a bunch of useless bat turds. Let me get my violin out.

        • Jana

          I have mine out, I’m joining you. I have never heard anything so ludicrous.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      There is enough money to pay their dog walker $100,000 a year. Here is an article showing only Obama bin Laden could give the stand down order.
      The responsibility lies at Obama bin Laden’s feet. Will he be man enough to take it? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
      “And whereas it hath pleased the Great Governor of the World (GOD) to incline the hearts of the legislatures we respectfully represent in Congress, to approve of, and to authorize us to ratify the said Articles of Confederation and perpetual Union.”
      Articles of Confederation
      July 09, 1778
      Christian founding document

      • Jana

        Thanks Samurai, for this piece too. Here it is but not in its entirety.


        A source with intimate information about the events that happened on the ground in Benghazi the night the U.S. Consulate and the CIA annex was attacked by terrorists told Breitbart News that, ultimately, only the President of the
        United States, or someone acting on his authority, could have prevented Special Forces either on the ground or nearby from helping those Americans who were under deadly assault.

        According to the source, when the attack on the Consulate occurred, a specific chain of command to gain verbal permission to move special-forces in must have occurred. SOCAFRICA commander Lieutenant Col. Gibson would have
        contacted a desk officer at the time, asking for that permission.

        That desk officer would have called Marine Corps Col. George Bristol, then in command of Joint Special Operations Task Force-Trans Sahara. From there, Bristol would have made contact with Rear Admiral Brian Losey, then Commander of Special Operations Command Africa. Losey would have contacted four-star General Carter Ham, commander of U.S. AFRICOM at the time.

        “Ham answers directly to the President of the United States,” said the source. It wasn’t a low-level bureaucrat making the call, the source adamantly added.

        That call may have been made early in the engagement. Both Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Martin Dempsey testified in January that they had no further communication with President Barack Obama after an initial briefing in the early hours of the Benghazi crisis, which continued through the night.

        But what about then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton?

        “I have a hard time thinking it was Hillary alone. Hillary may have tried to circumvent the counterterrorism board and deal with this. I think in order for her to tell General Ham, ‘No, you’re not going to get involved,’ she would have had to talk to the president. The president would have had to say, ‘No, take
        your commands from Hillary.’ He would have had said something, because Ham does not work for the Department of State; he works directly for the president,” the source explained.

        The lack of clarity surrounding orders given during the Benghazi attacks is a stark contrast. to the clarity projected after the successful Osama bin Laden raid in May 2011, when
        administration officials were keen to attribute responsibility for the orders to the president.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Thanks for the link fellow patriot. We hope you are having a good weekend. As far as Osama bin Laden being dead, as soon as they present a body, I’ll believe it. Like some officers I know here say, “No body, no crime.” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
          “If my people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.”
          2 Chronicles 7:14

  • S.C.Murf

    Thanks Chip great read. They are crooks, satanists, thieves and anyone standing up for them fall into the same category and would sell out their fellow man at the drop of the proverbial hat. Obama is as evil as Clinton, Bush’s, Nixon, Kennedy and most of the rest. Power corrupts. Doesn’t matter Democrats or Republican they are evil and have sold their souls to satan for power and fame and their deeds prove this. Again watch what they DO not what they SAY

    up the hill

  • Dave


    The GOP is most interested in playing politics and wasting our time and money

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Post ignored for lack of factual or intellectual content.

      • Dave

        If Posts are ignored for lack factual or intellectual content, then the authors here shoudl be ignored and so should the posts of many of their followers.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          But you are a follower of the authors since you comment and you are a follower of the commentors since you respond.

          • Dave

            I enjoy exposing conservative BS… What can I say? And you people shovel alot of BS…

          • Don 2

            Not as much as I enjoy watching Benghazi implode on the Dems, and it is imploding today.

          • Dave

            LOL! Ok Don…Whatever you get yourself to believe

          • Don

            Yeah Dave, I’ll bet your LOL. More like, should probably be on suicide watch.

          • Dave


            From the Wshington Post reguarding todays testimony:

            Reports about the e-mails surfaced two days after three State Department officials criticized administration actions before, during and after the September assaults in an appearance before Congress on Wednesday.

            The most memorable testimony came from Gregory B. Hicks, who was deputy ambassador at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli at the time of the attack. Hicks and the others questioned why the Benghazi facility had not been made more secure before the attack and why the Pentagon did not send air or ground support once the attack began. Hicks also testified that he was criticized for raising the questions and was effectively demoted as a result — allegations that the State Department denied.

            While the Wednesday hearing produced a riveting account of the night of the Benghazi attack from the deputy U.S. ambassador in Tripoli, it elicited little new information and dealt only glancingly with the talking points issue that has been at the center of Republican charges of an administration cover-up.

            On Thursday, House Speaker John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) called on the White House to make public e-mails and other information about the talking points that are among tens of thousands of pages of documents the administration turned over to lawmakers months ago. White House officials continue to assert that they have provided all the information congressional leaders have asked for.

            The various versions of the CIA-drafted talking points suggests substantive changes over five days, including the removal at the State Department’s urging of specific references to the Ansar al-Sharia terrorist group involved.

            White House officials have said previously they only made one change to the CIA-drafted talking points, changing U.S. “consulate” to “diplomatic post.” in the final version.

            But White House officials were directly involved in developing the talking points through discussions with the CIA, the State Department, the FBI, the Justice Department, and elements of the Pentagon.

            Behind the scenes, as a then-close presidential campaign entered its final stretch, State Department officials found themselves at a disadvantage in debating the CIA, whose deputy director, Mike Morrell, took charge of organizing days of internal agency discussions into a coherent set of talking points for members of Congress.

            For one, State Department official could not disclose that one of the two U.S. sites attacked in Benghazi was run by the CIA because of its secret designation.

            CIA operations in the area included disarming militias, including ones affiliated with Islamist extremist groups, several months after the U.S. military role in toppling Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi. Virtually every U.S. official assigned to Benghazi was based in the CIA annex — where the agency, not the State Department, was in charge of security.

            The State Department was also chiefly responsible, along with the White House, for describing the events around the deadly attacks publicly.

            In addition to the State Department, the FBI and the Justice Department also objected to the CIA’s inclusion of Ansar al-Sharia in the talking points because it could have harmed the nascent investigation, senior administration officials said Friday.

            In a statement, Jen Psaki, the State Department’s chief spokesperson, said Friday that the the department first reviewed the talking points on the evening of Sept. 14, two days before Rice delivered them on a series of talk shows. She said Nuland raised two concerns. “First that the points went further in assigning responsibility than preliminary assessments suggested and there was concern about preserving the integrity of the investigation,” Psaki said. “Second, that the points were inconsistent with the public language the administration had used to date — meaning members of Congress would be providing more guidance to the public than the administration.”

            In November, both Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and former CIA director David H. Petraeus briefed the intelligence committees about the talking points. Following that testimony, DNI spokesman Shawn Turner told reporters that the intelligence community was solely responsible for “substantive” changes in the talking points.

            A bipartisan report on Benghazi released by the Senate homeland security committee in December said that a senior CIA analyst had advocated including the al-Qaeda reference.

            But Clapper, CIA, FBI and State Department counterterrorism officials told the committee that “changes characterizing the attacks as ‘demonstrations’ and removing references to al-Qaeda or its affiliates were made within the CIA and the” intelligence community.

            “They also testified,” the Senate report said, “that no changes were made for political reasons, [and] that there was no attempt to mislead the American people about what happened in Benghazi.”

            Secretary of State John F. Kerry, who has been traveling outside the country this week, said Friday that Benghazi was a “tragedy. But I hate to see it turned into a pure, prolonged, political process that really doesn’t tell us anything new about the facts.”
            So much for your implosion

          • Jana

            First of all Mr Hicks said that they knew that night that it was a terrorist attack and that it was Ansar al-Sharia and in fact when Ambassador Stephens had been taken to the hospital it was a hospital that Ansar al-Sharia held and they were worried about AMB.

            Lie # 1. For 3 weeks Obama and Hillary kept telling the same story that it was some video that was made that caused this attack. They even arrested the man that wrote the 12 minute video that I watched that wasn’t that bad, and that man is still in jail. Talk about sick!

            Lie # 2. White House officials have said previously they only made one change to the CIA-drafted talking points, changing U.S.“consulate” to “diplomatic post.” in the final version.
            ANSWER: They have now proven that there were 12 TWELVE changes made to the talking points.

            Lie #3. “They also testified,” the Senate report said, “that no changes were made for political reasons, [and] that there was no attempt to mislead the
            American people about what happened in Benghazi.”

            ANSWER: All I have to say to this one is HA! This is all they have done is try to mislead the American people, but they have found the American people are not so easily misled

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Never mind Dave as he is here just to stir the waters to see what hate he could do. Here is an article showing how Obama bin Laden used taxpayer funds to cover up Benghazi.
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “They, who are decrying the Christian religion, are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments.”
            Charles Carroll
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Dave

            LOL… Hate… its funny to hear you say that… inlight what your “fellow Patriots” and yourself say on this board regularly. The best part is, you are not even an American. How is the weather in North Korea comrade?

          • Jana

            Dave, Samurai is an American.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Sorry Dave, unlike Obama bin Laden, ‘m a natural born citizen. You know, born in this country of 2 parents who are citizens. How about you, comrade? Here is some good news about Missouri supporting our God-given rights under the 2nd Amendment.
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.”
            Psalms 33:12

          • Don

            Stay tuned David, it ain’t over, no matter how much you wish it were.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      You better check that proverbial rug that all things get swept under when Dem/Prog/Leftist politicos don’t want to admit their errors. That hump in the rug is beginning to look like a mountain.

  • Jeffrey Willis

    welcome to the United Countries of America, get you`re passports now you will be needing them before long to cross the state lines. It`s coming folks, states will secede.


    The worst point of the whole sordid affair was the continual ignorance of Steven’s & others pleas for more & tighter security, especially after every other free nation had removed their people weeks before 9/11/12. This falls all on Hillary, because the Rules of Engagement for embassies, etc..are Sec. of State’s responsibility. Why are our soldiers & marines not providing security instead of a group of al-Qaeda sympathizers?????

    It’s easy for Obummer administration to lie & deceive incessantly, when you know the media has your back. That is why Romney decided not attack him on Benghazi.

    • macgyver1948

      Hi KKk… it is a damn shame they didn’t get the help/protection they needed, it is more than just a shame. I just hope those who could have helped have learned from this huge tragedy.

      Maybe Romney had too much in his closet to say anything then and maybe he knew it was handled much the same as he would have if given the same intel.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Sorry Mac, but Obama bin Laden, not Romney, is in office and is the one resposible for this fiasco. Here is something showing how CBS helped Obama bin Laden cover up Benghazi in the 2012 elections, but are not being punished by him for investigating Benghazi.
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
        “I would advise no one to send his child where the Holy Scriptures are not supreme. Every institution that does not unceasingly pursue the study of God’s Word becomes corrupt. I greatly fear that the schools, unless they teach the Holy Scriptures diligently and impress them on the young students, are wide gates to hell.”
        Martin Luther

        • macgyver1948

          Samurai…What are you sorry for? Could it be that once again you missed the point? Did you really think I thought Romney was in office? Thank God he isn’t.

          Again I ask you, who are you trying to impress with your encrypted characters “하나님하고나라를 위해서!“?

          As for the rest of your stuff in your comment. You insist that all schools teach your “Holy Scriptures” or there is something wrong with them. Well, for your “Holy Scriptures” to be forced on Jews or Hindus and Buddhists or Muslims and any other God loving religion who isn’t Christan would the the same as force teaching evolution on you as fact. OR for that matter it would be the same as forcing the Karon on you. Your “Holy Scriptures” should be taught to those who aren’t Christian only if they ask for it as a study in perhaps
          philosophy and only if they ask for it. To do it your way would be similar to how Commies and Nazis might do it. But then that is how you want to force your religions beliefs on others.

          One again, this is not a Christian country and the Founders set it up to be a country for any and all religions. Which, again, is why they purposelessly left out words such as Christian or Christ from the
          Constitution. Which again is so “Freedom Of Religion” would have meaning and purpose for all of us, otherwise it would be meaningless. But as always you seem to want “Freedom Of Religion” to be
          meaningless with how you force feed us with your religious beliefs.

          So, leave all religious teachings in the home and in religious schools and in places of religion. Personally I want God every place but as for any particular religion not of my choosing I want left where it should be. As for atheists, they have a right to believe how
          they also choose but all of us, such as you, should leave your “only my ways and beliefs are right for all” BS to your self. I am not sure you will ever learn what real Liberty and Americanism are but that is you and you have your right to your “opinions” for

          I see you still like the name game as you always did with “Obama bin Laden”. Ok, I can do that too with Samurai bin Hitler. It works, what do you know, lol…

          • Charlie


            What part of The Bible did The Constitution do away with ??? NONE!!! The Constitution came along about 200 years AFTER The Mayflower Compact… Who wrote The Mayflower Compact?,,, William Bradford ,,,who was the first leader of America for the first 31 years , voted in with 100% of the voters at that time??? William Bradford … When in American history has any “Leader” been voted for 31 years straight with 100% of the voters???

            What does “first in time, first in Law” mean???

            What was The Law Book AND Constitution that William Bradford used for America the first 31 years? The Holy Bible of The Almighty God…………………………….

            NO where in The Constitution will you find the term,, The Almighty God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob Israel!!!….

            BECAUSE,,,The Constitution IS A Commercial Document,,,read it,,,it tells you it is the highest law of land,,,what is land? it is dirt,,,ALL COMMERCE COMES from the dirt,,,even Man was created from dirt,,,The Bible says,,,”dust you are and to dust you shall return” ……………….

            Got a problem with The Bible? talk to “God”,,,you don’t know enough to talk outside of your “brainwashing”… You are boxed in by your “Judeo Christian” basic lies,,,the 3 basic lies cannot be proven true with The Bible,,,so,,,they are lies…………

            America,,,means Heavenly Kingdom ,,,who is The King? so,,, Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…
            Charlie Freedom

          • macgyver1948

            Charlie…LMAO… If you were any more demented there would have to be a straight jacket around you at all times but you are funny some time. You ask
            “What part of The Bible did The Constitution do away with ???” Where in your bozo mind did that come from? LOL. I NEVER said the Constitution did away with the bible but you came up with that somehow. “Freedom Of Religion” calls for the protection of different peoples bibles and their use. But you see things in a Tea-Nazis “only how I see it” way so that is why you are so delusional.

            By the way Charlie, things are not lies, as you intimate, just because they have not been proven. They just are not proven until they are or aren’t. If your IQ was higher than that of a hand ball’s you might know that.

            Most of the rest of you rant is so ridiculous but I will say this. Let’s see if you are capable of understanding. “South America and North America were named after Amerigo Vespucci in 1507. Amerigo Vespucci
            was an Italian explorer who was the first person to realize that the Americas were completely separate from Asia, when he mapped the eastern coast of South America in 1502. A German mapmaker named
            Martin Waldseemuller was the first person to print a map that used the name “America” for the New World. Waldseemuller only used the word “America” for South America. The name became popular throughout Europe. In 1538, Gerardus Mercator was the first person to make a map that included both the names “North America” and “South America” in it. “
            A little more at
            where it is called “Who named America?”

            Oh, no, I do not have a problem with a bible, any bible. My problem is with loons such as you who misinterpret and misuse them. Have some milk and cookies you demented little boy. And take you meds.

            PS. I said this to you before. It is an oxymoron to put the words “Charlie Freedom” together in your case.,

          • Charlie

            Mac1948,,, You should concentrate on what Bible The Almighty God had written,,,and who originated some words ,,,not,,,just who used them later….
            Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing…. Acts 2:38 is salvation…
            Charlie Freedom

          • macgyver1948

            Charlie… Wow you are something but I do not know what. Whose bible do you think came first and who do you think wrote it, at least the first five books of it? Was it mine, the Hebrew Bible, or yours?

            In the “Meanwhile…” your King Jesus is your king, your salvation, your Messiah and your prophet. He is not any of those for Jews so get off you misguided high horse and stop pushing him on us. He is all that for you and I support that for you but you have no right,
            Constitutional or otherwise, to push him on anyone else.

            Charlie who??? You contradict yourself when you say what you say with your insistences and then sign yourself in the way you do. Charlie who??? LOL….

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            Feel like you are beating your head against a rock and drawing blood yet? Any dialog with Charlie tends to make you feel that way.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666…You are so right when it comes to people like the samurais and the Charlies (Freedoms – what a joke that is) when it comes to their “you are wrong if you do not agree with us in religion and politics” BS. How much more UN-American and less for Liberty can you get? You might think I would learn by now with them and their non
            accepting ways. They do not have to agree with me, no one does, but they do provoke. IF people like them got their ways we would all be slaves or dead. I needed the reminder Bob, thanks. Remember Elaine?

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            you forgot the power on loan by god to judge everyone while telling you how you will burn in hell because they disagree with you.
            I keep hearing about Elaine, but I believe she was before my time. Who exactly was Elaine???

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… I didn’t forget so much about God being the real judge but I didn’t apply that to what I was saying. He will take care of all those who presumably speak for Him and judge as He in His ways.

            About Elaine…Let’s just say Elaine is one of those who, as we know of some, assumes she is so right and pompous all the time that all who will not agree with her has to be wrong. Jeff and I had a lengthy and repetitive and frustrating times with her on this site but she is in
            no way alone in her thinking. She resorts to name
            calling and insult if you have the audacity to not agree with her. She is so strongly Right… Do you know any like that here?

          • Bob666

            Wow Mac,

            And I missed Elaine, that just sucks!

            “one of those who, as we know of some, assumes she is so right and pompous all the time that all who will not agree with her has to be wrong”
            Just to narrow the focus on this group-If she did not agree with you-did she call you a liar?????
            This is an important question, again I would not want to narrow the answer to be incorrect.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666…It is not so much that she called me a liar, although implied at times, but some time when I called her on her stuff she might respond with “oh sorry I might have meant someone else”, well something like that but she normally wouldn’t back down. She was way to Right
            to be wrong. She even apologized to me a couple of times and I mistakenly hoped she would come around, not to my side of the aisle but to being decent about disagreeing. Her apologizes were very short lived each time and I always regretted trusting her but I stopped
            doing that. When you just know you CANNOT be wrong there is no point for anyone to trust you. :-).

          • Bob666

            YO Mac,
            Yes, there are plenty of them here. They bury their heads in the sand, see only what they want to see and oblivious to the real facts of the world.
            Their mission in life is to judge you and everyone while revising history to read as our founding fathers were deciples of Christ as he wrote our constitution through the founding fathers?

            Yes, there are more than a couple of people like this- who live the double standard where liberty only applies to them and those exactly like them and you should be subservient to them as not sharing their views makes you unworthy.

            Oh yes, if you make a post and give them facts, it’s a personal attack and you’re a bad person and your post is an ad hominem, but if they post and call you names and a liar, well it’s because they are on a mission from god and losing is not an option.

            Welcome to PLD, because liberty is all about some-not you……….

            ”To the man who only has a hammer, everything he encounters begins to look like a nail.”

            Abraham H. Maslow

            1908-1970, American Psychologist

          • Charlie

            YO YO and Mac,,,
            Tell Elaine to give Me some back up to combat you yo yo freaks and liars… What I have been saying all along is that The Almighty God’s words are correct NOT what you say His words say…………………………………..
            King Jesus Christ was God in The Flesh,,,and,,,also a Hebrew by lineage as well as a bloodline Jew from the tribe of Judah … Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation….
            Charlie Freedom

          • macgyver1948

            Charlie boy…. If you were any dumber or more in denial you would be dead. You King Jesus
            is God in The Flesh, as you put it, to you and those who choose to believe that, it is your right. He is not that to Jews, and it is just as much our right to that as is your right, but he was a man who happened to be Jewish and a rabbi so you got something right –
            somehow. With all your disrespect for all religions which do not believe as you do it is not wonder there is no respect for you. Some American you are in the NOT sense.

            Does Liberty and Freedom Of Religion disturb you that much? I will continue to feel sorry for you but please get the help you desperately need.

            I see from your message you want a comrade in arms for your “Only my ways of believing and thinking and feeling”, you know, your Anti-American ways. Well, if you can find Elaine I bet she would support and praise you. This is what the American revolution was
            fought for, to stop people like you from denying other people’s beliefs and views. God help us with your kind around.

            Bob666… This guy talks about liars… WOW….

          • Charlie

            You are indeed “mind programmed” to believe a Lie,,, Because,,,IF,,,there is more than 1 Almighty God, as, you seem to be saying,,,then,,,All Bibles are wrong,,, Because The Holy Bible of The Almighty God, DOES NOT harmonize with what you are writing… SO? until,,
            you can Identify your God / god with some Scripture in some Bible,..then,,,it appears you are a liar and have been duped ,deceived and deluded by the Satanic powers that be… Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…
            Charlie Freedom

          • Kinetic1


            You speak of the Plymouth colony as if it were the only basis for these United States. The Jamestown Colony was founded over a decade before Plymouth, so why not turn to them for proof of intention? Perhaps it is because they were not Puritans. Plymouth wasn’t even a very prosperous colony. Why would you base all future history on the actions of one small group of Christian fundamentalists?

            Before you try and sell us all on the idea that Bradford’s beliefs, as well as those of the other Puritans were the sole foundation of our nation’s ideology, think about it. The Plymouth colony ended when it was absorbed by the Massachusetts Bay Colony after 70 years. I don’t know what David Barton is selling these days, but it doesn’t take much to get to the truth here.

  • Tough Guy1

    The investigation of Benghazi, Libya is not a hoax, it’s real. And with the whistleblowers-hearings will become of something a form of evidence against the State Department and Hillary-“Billary” Clinton. And of the Obama-“regime” Administration!

    • Jana

      All we want is the truth. That is what we have been after from the very beginning and it hasn’t changed. We all knew that story about a video was a lie. This was the same type of lie you see through such as when your child comes up to you and tells you yes, I did do my homework but the dog ate it. Sure! It was so obvious!

      Then to find out the great Obama talked to his team at the Ready Room ONCE. ONCE?? JUST ONCE, and then went to bed and slept all night then left the next morning to raise more campaign dollars? Well we knew what was more important to him than the country didn’t we? We sure know his JOB of being President of the United States isn’t important because we know he likes to play his games more than he likes to work. We know he likes to take vacations and have parties in the White House, but forget about taking care of the business of the country or saving Americans in peril especially when they are out doing America’s business.

      • JeffH

        Jana, Hear, Hear! Sadly there are just too many people that could care less about what goes on in this country…then there are the liberals and progressives that have become so enamored with this POTUS, the progressive Democratic “Communist” Party, the complicit and progressive MSM and the erroneous ideology of “social justice” that they refuse to even question the terrible mis-justice perpetrated by this administration against those that died in Benghazi…that and so many other lies they and the public have been spoon fed.

        Just look at the immoral and constant barrage of attacks against religion, Christianity, morality, personal responsibility, limited government, free markets, individual liberty and traditional American values.

        We all want the same things in life. We want freedom; we want the chance for prosperity; we want as few people suffering as possible; we want healthy children; we want to have crime-free streets. The argument is how to achieve them…immorality is not the answer.

        “Let there be no change [in the Constitution] by usurpation. For though this, in one instance may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed.”

        Government action does not achieve equal opportunity and equality for all. It is not the duty of the government to alleviate social ills and to protect civil liberties and individual and human rights. The role of the government wasn’t meant to guarantee that no one is in need.

        The words “General Welfare” in the introduction to the enumerated powers of Article I Section 8 were never intended to be an object for extension of the power to tax and spend.

        A clear distinction is made with respect to welfare as applied to persons and states. In the Constitution the word “welfare” is used in the context of states and not persons. The “welfare of the United States” is not congruous with the welfare of individuals, people, or citizens.

        FDR’s “New Deal” used the “general welfare” clause as a distinct enumerated power, trying to shoehorn in a Second Bill of Rights. The supreme court resisted at first, but swung around, and as a result our country gradually became a welfare state.

        And the chickens came home to roost.

        A government strong enough to do as much good for disadvantaged people would turn out to be a government strong enough to do much harm as well. What you see is the promised good of providing a living to the hungry and poor. What you don’t see is the expropriation of resources from those who are productive. What you don’t see, until later, is the encroachment of growing government power on your freedom.

        Progressive policies by “BOTH PARTIES” have generally emphasized the need for the government to solve all of our societies problems…and therein lies the core of America’s woes.

        Sometimes ya’ just can’t fix stupid!

  • GRusling

    The problem with “KG’s” theory is that he must not remember Watergate, but I do, and “Nixon” didn’t order anything, or even know about it until the perps got caught! What sunk his ship-of-state was the COVERUP after the fact, and that’s the same thing that has thrown a monkey wrench in any plans Hillary may have had for 2016. If nothing else, she’s proven she can’t lead and STILL refuses to take responsibility for her screw-up. That little fact is never going to go away and the “what difference does it make” is her political future, as she now knows.

    Sorry “KG”, but the “TRUTH” has never been a friend of the Progressive movement, and it just bit ya’ll in the butt, one more time…

  • Liberty Lover

    There is not enough disinfectant in the world to make the Obama/Clinton regime “come clean,” though these Benghazi hearings shed a bit of sunlight onto their despicable priorities.

  • Liberty Lover

    Anyone who thinks these hearings on Benghazi will end Clinton’s chances in 2016 (assuming we still have elections then) is vastly overestimating both the intelligence and the attention span of the American electorate.

  • rbrooks

    you simply support the liar(s) that support your own agenda. pretending that one set of liars is preferable to the other set of liars.

    all politicians are crooks.

    they all lie.

    only the ignorant and delusional children believe other wise.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      Maybe because most politicians are Lawyers.

      • rbrooks

        does it matter?

        the real problem is the fools who continue to believe that their particular crooks and liars are better than the other crooks and liars.

        • JeffH

          Ain’t that the truth in a nutshell.

  • FreedomFighter

    “the murder of Ambassador Chris Stephens and three other Americans was planned by an al-Qaida affiliate in Libya. The CIA knew it — and told Washington. Our staff in Libya knew it — and told their superiors. Top Libyan officials knew it — and repeatedly said so.”
    In my opinion it was a Blood Sacrifice to appease a group or faction to gain cooperation of said faction for the Obama Administrations purposes. It was a Blood for Blood transaction, a payment for a past perceived wrong against said faction, a death for a death, an appeasement or as I call it, a BLOOD SACRIFICE.Others speculate it was a kidnap scheme deal cut with that faction where-in Obama gets them released just b4 the election to ensure his bid for re-election a win, the scheme went south when our MMV showed up and started taking names, this made the faction feel Obama double crossed them and they took revenge on our people killing them.
    Even if none of the above happened and Obama and his regime just let Ambassador Chris Stephens die…it is a crime, and as a crime those responsible need to face justice.
    Laus DeoSemper FI

    • KG

      Been reading too many Tom Clancy novels?

      • FreedomFighter

        Nope – its based on Scenario Evaluation Technique.

        One Hundred Articles of Impeachment Against Obama

        1. Appointment of a “shadow government” of some 35+ individuals termed “czars” who are not confirmed by the Senate and respond only to the president, yet have overarching regulatory powers – a clear violation of the separation of powers concept. Obama bypassed the Senate with many of his appointments of over 35 “czars.”

        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          I’ve read it and have already posted it in a prior thread. Here is a video about the Benghazi hearings.
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves KG out.
          “God commands all men everywhere to repent. He also commands them to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and has assured us that all who do repent and believe shall be saved.”
          Roger Sherman
          Founding Father
          Devout Christian

          • Jana

            I love all of your quotes Samurai.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Thank you Jana. If more patriots used quotes in their posts, it may add strength to the facts we present. Though I don’t expect any understanding from the left or the 5th column. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “I predict future haooiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            3rd U. S. President
            Founding father
            Orthodox Christian

      • JeffH

        At least he can read…and comprehend. You should try it sometimes, it’ll clense the mind.

  • LK

    Misdirection from the Administration of President Barack Obama? Vivek Kundra – Information Czar 
Born in New Delhi, India. Controls all public information, including labels and news releases. Monitors all private Internet emails.

  • hungry4food

    This is a Frigging Mess and it really can be traced back the formation of the STUPID WTO Free Trade agreement that has Over these past 18 years de-Developed the USA and Western nations ability to be the Industrialized self producing self reliant nations we once were and this kind of balance in Independence from other nations productions that today we are way to dependent on for these parts is now threatening to collapse the dollar as worlds trade currency as we have become just a paper currency traded economic of the worlds durable supplies and we are forced to defend these nations supplies to maintain the dollars pricing of these supplies .

    Its the flawed and failed WTO Trade Policy thats Killed our
    markets and Wealth redistribution by taking away our self reliant production
    when we created our own vital parts supply to then be that engine of wealth
    redistribution . Its was Lobbied away from our communities and small business
    families over the years since the WTO trade Policy was adopted that allowed the
    consolidation of these small businesses into the Multi nationals that were
    bailed out and combined with the Government in 2008 .

    Change the Trade
    Policy or it will be used against us in a Final stage of USA Collapse . Watch
    this video to get the knowledge needed to understand where we are and why , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiIaPhvHa-w&feature=player_embedded



    Here is some results of the dance we see going on in the Middle east to try and Maintain the dollar as the Pricing currency of OPEC Oil !!!!!



    The empowering of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Middle east
    is a Ploy to try and keep the Arab nations Loyal to the USA and western nations
    and sustain the Dollar as the Pricing currency in OPEC and International Trade
    . This is why we see the treasonous acts being allowed in Washingtons highest
    Levels of the Bureaucracy .

    Read these links to see the Way this is playing out ,
    its a attempt to keep a Alliance from forming between the BRICS nations that
    have said they would reject the dollar as Trade currency along with OPEC
    calling for a replacement as well .

    This is why we see the kinds of Federal Reserve
    policies too , they are all trying to buy with print money alliances and
    Loyalty by Flooding the currency markets . But the leverage is not on the side
    of the paper markets but on the side of the durable markets , paper is not the
    sustaining factor in Life !!!!!



  • Schnable

    Sec Clinton’s behavior during and after the Libyan massacre are unforgivable. This heartless woman will do anything to keep her political ambitions alive. Whether you are a Democrat, Republican, or Independent how could you ever support someone who would participate in the murder of Americans and then lie about it to save her own skin? Outrageous !

  • Jim Comden

    Obama didn’t have a choice about sending in help to Benghazi, his Muslim beliefs will not allow him to “potentially kill” Muslims, it’s an unpardonable sin.

    • Dave

      Yet he has killed more Al Qeada than George W Bush including OBL. Yeah I get it.

      • Barack Embalmer

        I think the immigration reform we need is the deportation of traitors to America like you Dave.

        • Dave

          The traitors are the ones that told us that the #1 goal is to make sure Obama is a 1 term president during the worst recession since the depression… ie the GOP…

          The traitors are the ones that used 9-11 to get us into a 3T dollar war in Iraq for the betterment of the oil firms and defense contractors…. ie the GOP
          Once again, conservatives have things all backwards.

          • Barack Embalmer

            You must be on the government “dole” because you obviously havent been looking for employment lately, if you were you would know that we are already in a “depression” and its has gotten WORSE under Oblamo! And dont try to tell me your working full time, you post too much on here for that to be true.

          • Dave

            What policies of Obama are you talking about? BTW, the unemployment rate dropped again to 7.5. Lower than it was when Bush left office.
            Does Congress have any role to play in this “depression” NAH… Of course not… Obama is a dictator and he has had his way with Congress of course…

          • Jana

            Dave, You have to realize that is just typical talk. Even on “your side”. When a Republican gets the Presidency the talk is the same, “make sure he is a 1 term president. I also remember the terrible names they called Bush. So it does go both ways.

            When Bush did things I didn’t like I wrote letters to Congress (Senate and House) as well as to him and letters to the editor. He did a lot of things I didn’t like. When any Republican does something I don’t like I write them. I write often by the way to both parties. It is my country and my thoughts and opinions may not amount to much to them but they will be told to them anyway!

            Do you ever find fault with a Democrat? Just asking here.

            By the way, I also write both parties to tell them the good things I think they are doing too.

          • JeffH

            Kudos to you Jana. I probably send out a couple of emails a week to my representatives…and it sucks.
            They’re all Democrats that do not represent me in any way, shape or form…Feinstein, Boxer and Jim Costa.

            It’s funny but a few months ago the RNC sent me a questionnaire asking my opinion on a multitude of issues regarding how the Republican Party could improve themselves and their image and get in tune with the public.

            I laid it all out about what I thought of the Republican Party and it wasn’t pretty. I don’t and have never donated to either party and I made it very clear I didn’t want to hear from them again.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Jana and Jeff H, well said. Just ignore Dave as he is just a mindless sheeple following after his “messiah” in office. Here is an article about Obama’s friend Bill Ayers.
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “Hold fast to the Bible…To the influence of this Book we are indebted for all the progress made in true civilization and to this we must look as our guide in the future.”
            Ulysses S. Grant
            18th President
            American war hero

          • Bill Henry

            Have you dropped the Democrat Party? Seems to me you were of the liberal persuasion not very long ago. Now you are posting in agreement with the conservative side of these questions. Truth or subterfuge? I think the latter, but wonder what the purpose is. For one to drop his hero worship for the man in office is a tad unbelievable to me. I will remain skeptical until proven wrong, and that takes a lot of proof.

          • JeffH

            Bill, you obviously don’t know me and have me confused with another Jeff, the progressive one without the “H”.
            I’m not affiliated with either parties, never have been.

            I’ve been posting here for over 3 years and I haven’t changed my red/white/blue stripes for red or yellow ones and I certainly haven’t crossed paths with you before today.

          • Dave

            Jana, Since you asked:

            Growing up in DC, i was 100% against the gun ban, renaming the Bullets, Marion Barry on a whole host of issues.

            Bill Clinton: I never once voted for that used car Salesman. I never trusted him. He along with Reagan and their respective congresses set the agenda that caused the 2008 economic collapse.

            Obama, I disagree with Obama greatly on the bank bailouts, expanding the conservative’s “Patriot Act” in certain areas, that he filed no brief against the Citizen’s United decision. I believe he should have broken up the big banks and wall street frims along with re-instituting Glass-Steegal but he has not even attempted, signing the act that gutted STOCK that prevented Congress from engaging in insider trading. Etc…

            The Democratic Party, I have an issue with their unwaviering support of the teachers unions because they are part of the education problems in this country. They are paid by many of the same corp interests that own the GOP. Harry Reid is a A1 tool. I live in AZ where the state is owned by conservatives… We have a Governor that is more interested in providing money for private prisons paid for on the tax payer dime so her staff can make a ton of money than improving education. This are never good when one party has control

            So there is a whole bunch of things I criticize Democrats for. I have only a slight less disdain for Democrats than I have for the GOP

            What is going on with the Benghazi hearings has little to do with finding “truth” to make our embassy security better as it is a political maneuver to prime the GOP to take back the WH that they feel entitled to.

          • Bill Henry

            What a crock. Obama spent more in his first term in failed attempts to restart the economy by giving funds to companies that had no way of supplying the number of jobs to boost the economy and to foreign companies to develop his dream of an electrical car which went down the tubes, and alternatives to oil and coal for making electricity which also went tits up, because there is not a marketable alternative that is both effective and affordable to those who use electricity. He spent more in four years than Bush did in 8 even though Bush was spending like a drunken sailor, and he is asking for more spending and more taxes on an already overburdened population, so he could buy more votes for the liberal demoralrat party so they could stay in power.

      • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Dave,

        You write: “Yet he has killed more Al Qeada than George W Bush including OBL.” Yes and hundreds if not thousands of women and children. http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2013/01/03/obama-2013-pakistan-drone-strikes/ What a hero for you!

        Best wishes,
        P.S. Obama didn’t kill OBL. He’s been dead a long time.

        • Dave

          Not my hero Bob but your hero is responsible for ignoring the warnings 9-11 and then using 9-11 to kill over 150000 Iraqis and 4000 US troops so the oil companies and the defense business can make a buck. Thats your conservative president Bob. I am sure you voted for that traitor twice.
          Do you have any proof of your assertion or is it more half-baked conspiracy Bob about OBL?
          I see you inserted yourself into this so do you believe Obama has issues with killing Muslims because Obama is a Muslim too?

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Dave,

            You write: “Not my hero Bob but your hero is responsible for ignoring the warnings 9-11 and then using 9-11 to kill over 150000 Iraqis and 4000 US troops so the oil companies and the defense business can make a buck. Thats (sic) your conservative president Bob.” I invite you to provide evidence of my supporting any of George W. Bush’s policies in any of my writing, particularly as relating to the conduct of the so-called “war on terror.”

            You write: ” I am sure you voted for that traitor twice.” I’m sure you are ignorant.

            You write: “Do you have any proof of your assertion…” Yes. And I have posted it on the site before.

            You write: “I see you inserted yourself into this so do you believe Obama has issues with killing Muslims because Obama is a Muslim too?” I don’t believe Obama has issues with killing anyone, as evidenced by his use of drones on women and children in countries that have posed no threat to us and his stated policy and history to use them on Americans.

            Best wishes,

          • Dave

            Bob, I am just playing the same game you and your followers are… All conservatives are exactly alike… Just like your followers accuse me of being an Obama follower, a socialist, a communist or a Marxist. What you don’t like being lumped in with the “group”? too bad…When you and your followers actually act as you would want to be treated, then I will in kind.

            Bob Writes about OBL being dead long before.
            “Yes. And I have posted it on the site before.”
            I respond:
            Sorry Bob, I simply do not believe the conservative conspiracy sites that link to other conspiracy sites as proof.
            So Obama has intentionally targeted women and children? Really?
            Your fellow conservative Bush opened that can of worms or did you forget? But I forget, he isn’t a conservative… he is a neo-Con because you are the ultimate hudge of what makes a conservative as you label anyone who disagrees with your philospohy everything from a socialist to a communist.

          • Don 2

            Under Islam, killing other Muslims is not wrong if it furthers the cause. Muslims kill other Muslims all the time. How about Shia killing Sunni in Iraq, and vice versa, or Wahabi killing Muslims in the twin towers. It didn’t matter if it damaged the Big Satan.

            Political jihad involves killing the Big Satan by taking it down from within, electing Muslims to political office, implementing laws favorable to Islam, using our own freedom of religion to further the spread of Islam. This is going on right now in America.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Bush, baaaaa! Iraq, baaaaa! Ignored the warnings about 9-11, thought Clinton should have done this first, baaaaa! Big oil money, though all the oil went to Russia and Europe, thus we never got a drop of oil, baaaaa! The chemical weapons that Bush said Iraq had, now are coming to the surface in Syria. No WMD’s, baaaaa! Finall, a 5th columner who admits Obama bin Laden is a muslim. It’s about time. Obama bin Laden said he would pull our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan within the first 6 months he is in office. Ooops! Iraq took 3.5 years and we are still in Afghanistan. In fact, the first 30,000 troops that left Iraq went straight to Afghanistan. Some keeper of his word. Then there is all these unconstitutional bills his administration has passed, dropping the ball in Boston, and responsible for the massacre at Benghazi. Dave, please make that popping sound. We need a president to do things like Nikki Haley of South Carolina.
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
            “The Bible is the cornerstone of liberty. Students’ perusal of the sacred volume will make us better citizens, better fathers, and better husbands.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            3rd U. S. President
            Founding father
            Orthodox Christian

      • Bill Henry

        To correct you comment on killing Bin Laden that was a project which was started after it was found that he masterminded the attack on the twin towers and the Pentagon. It continued with little success until new information was found out about his location in the enhanced interrogation of one high value prisoner being held in Gitmo. Then through efforts of the CIA and their connections in Pakistan, his location there was confirmed. Although El Presidente authorized the move to either capture or kill Bin Laden, he had no part other than that in it. Any President at the time that the intelligence had discovered and confirmed his location would have been a fool not to take try to capture or take him out. The fact does not embellish Obama’s image nor make him a hero, nor would it have any other president. The work was done by the intelligence network and the men who carried out the mission. Had the mission failed who would you blame for it? I guess Obama gets his cookies off watching drones killing people. It must give him a feeling of great power which is one of the characteristics of a megalomaniac which he has proven he is.

  • Michael Shreve

    When is a cover-up NOT a cover-up? When Obama, the Democrat, liberal. progressive, communists and the Obama press corps say it isn’t. It depends on what your definition of “truth” IS.

    • macgyver1948

      Interesting considering you seem to imply you are interested in “TRUTH”, Obama is no more a commie than you are but you were programmed to believe he is.

      • Bob666
        • macgyver1948

          Hay Bob… They will if it fits because we do not to them, we aren’t wealthy enough…

        • macgyver1948

          Bob666… I have now been officially called a liar along with you by our friend Charlie. If we do not agree with him about religion, for example, we are liars. Simple enough.

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            How Christian is that behavior? That is why I refer to these guys a CINO’s- Christian in Name Only. I know Christians and they do not act like this. Faith in god is a noble and personal matter and those who feel a need to carry their faith on their sleeve like Charlie and his breather are men of ego, not god.
            You and I are wise enough to know the difference.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… I agree Bob. I grew up in a city where religion was religion, with respect for other’s beliefs for the most part, I bet as their Jesus would have wanted.

            Growing up I often ate dinner/lunch/breakfast at the homes of Catholic and Protestant friends and they at mine with my very Jewish Grandmother cooking and cheering them as real God’s people should. These guys so often bring to mind what I have brought in a few times, that being “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians­. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” – Mohandas K. Gandhi

            And they call us liars but hypocrite also comes to mind with them.

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,

            Amen Brother, Amen and that can be said in many different languages by many different religions.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666…Yeah, in so many different languages and cultures just as Jihad can. There have been many Jihads throughout history and from so many who weren’t Muslim, just that kind, whatever the language culture or religion – such as The Crusades.

        • macgyver1948

          Bob666… Interesting little article but it is a bit slanted but the Karl Roves/Kochs and Norguists need to be slanted against just for balance since they are in no way on the side of the average (the non affluent) person. Thanks for it.

      • Irish1025

        MacGyver…..If Obama had killed these people in front of you and many many others Would you believe it or would you still believe the lies? You liberals are pathetic. You excuse peoples dirty deeds just because they are liberals like yourself. The Truth You liberals could never handle it! And You know that I am right.

        • macgyver1948

          WOW Irish… are you a fantasy writer or what? You do not know a thing but you assume what you are told by your side and accept the worst.

          Learn how to ask a question with reality and I will respond to you. Or prove it because in this country we are innocent until proven guilty and we should not be as the countries we claim we are better than as your kind does.

          DUH .. if I see someone kill I would know, wouldn’t I? WOW you have got to be kidding with your hateful directed blind kind of thinking.,

          • Irish1025

            How can you assume to “think” what I may or may not know! The point I was trying to make is this: The Evidence is staring you people in the face yet…….You refuse to see it. Doe’s that make the evidence non-existent? apparently with you it doe’s. WOW are you really that blind that you can not see it?

          • macgyver1948

            Oh Irish… It very much does not make the evidence non-existent if it were real to begin with. We do not know yet but your side seems to have its crystal balls. I think you guys would be better off waiting until after the facts are proven then how you do it before. Like how much it is a fact that Romney will win the Presidency over Obama because we know he will. How did that “Evidence is staring you people in the face” stuff work out for you?

            By the way it is not me who assumes, I generally wait for the facts to be proven, but you guys on the Right do it as much as breathing or is it just that you take direction and programming as much as you do breathing?

  • justin m

    We’ll probably get the truth after we get the truth about 9/11/01. Way to celebrate the anniversary with some more horse [expletive deleted]

  • Doc Sarvis

    June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.

    February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
    Truck bomb kills 17.

    February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.

    July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
    Suicide bomber kills two.

    December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
    Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

    March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.

    September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria
    Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.

    January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece
    A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.

    July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey
    Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.

    March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen
    Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls’ school instead.

    September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen
    Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.

    I guess we’ll need to blame President Obama for these as well.

    • Dave


      We know the game that they are playing…And so do they. Nothing fills their souls more that pushing their agenda through faux outrage.

      • Jana

        Dave, this isn’t a game to me. I have family that is all over the world fighting for this country.

        If we can’t depend on our President to care, to be honorable, or to be truthful then what do we have? So far all we have learned is Obama and Hillary made up a story and lied. Obama talked for about a half an hour to was it Leon Panella then that was it. He went on his own merry way. Then went to bed. Got up the next morning and went fund raising.

        Excuse me. Men were fighting for their lives and nothing, NOTHING, NOT A COTTON PICKING THING was being done to help them. In fact those that were ready to step up and step in were told to STAND DOWN, not just once, but TWICE. That could have easily been my brother in law whom I love very much. That could have easily been my uncle whom I love very much.

        One thing they have both said is that while Bush was in office they knew without a doubt that the United States had their back. Now, that Obama is in office, they feel more that they are on their own. That is a sad state of affairs.

        No Dave, this is not a game, and this is no faux outrage. I have cried over this, and I have been on my knees praying for the families of those that have fallen. Not just these in Benghazi but all of our fallen.) I spend time in prayer for the military who live in danger every single day.

        The only agenda here is the truth. If Obama has nothing to hide, then the truth should not hurt him. If Hillary has nothing to hide, then the truth should not hurt her.

        No politician no matter who they are Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, or the Green Party or who ever, is above the truth, and they all should answer to all of us. The truth should matter to ALL of us no matter what party we belong to, and NO, we should not gloat when someone is caught in a lie because our COUNTRY has been hurt and disgraced when any politician lies.

        • Dave

          HA!!! Have have good friends in the military too so don’t hand me your holier than thou BS. Bush had their back??? Is that why Bush lied this country into war in Iraq using 9-11? Is that why he continued with the tax cuts during two wars to ensure on military families are the ones sacrificing? Is that why soldiers did 4 and 5 tours because of this scumbag? Is that why Bush did not do the right things by the soliders returning?
          Soldiers fought in Iraq because of GEORGE W BUSH and for his oil and military interests. If conservatives had a brain in their heads they would have demanded a thourogh investigation into Iraq and Bush’s actions like they have over Benghazi. But the GOP did not, instead, they fell right in line and told any of us that dared question Bush that we were unAmerican. Remember?
          To the GOP, this is all a game because the GOP cannot win an national contest on their policies any longer so they have to have perpetual controversy to sink the other side.
          The “Truth” is so far down on the list of GOP priorities that its not even worth mentioning. Benghazi was a State Dept screw up. People need to be held accountable for and we should be implementing better security protocols… But the GOP is more interested in playing politics in order to win the WH. The GOP did this in the 1990’s with Clinton and they are trying to do it here. I am saying NO to the GOP and their faux outrage.
          The GOP play games, that is all this once decent party are good for now… political games, corporatism and making sure the wealthy keep their positions in society as the suck more out of this country through the enablement policies of the GOP and help from the Dems.

          • Jana

            You may have a right to your outrage at any war you want. Remember the war in Iraq was voted on by both Dems and Repubs and it passed. Everyone blames one party for the lies but it was a two party lie IF it was a lie. FROM THE REPORTS I HAVE HEARD FROM THOSE WHO WERE THERE IT WASN’T A LIE!!!!

            Now you are saying its all right to lie as long as your party is the one doing it. Wow you are some piece of work. I thought you were a fair man, but obviously from this last post, you aren’t, and you do have hate in your heart. Wow was I ever wrong about you! Shame on me!

            Remember back where I told you everyone talks about the other party when you said,”The traitors are the ones that told us that the #1 goal is to make sure
            Obama is a 1 term president during the worst recession since the depression… ie the GOP…” YOUR WORDS*** now here is another of your very pretty words to a President: * scumbag*. Wow and there were many more coming from others and probably worse words coming from you too. So don’t you get so self righteous Dave.

            Everything you said in this post negates what you said in your last post of , and I quote:
            “Growing up in DC, i was 100% against the gun ban, renaming the Bullets, Marion Barry on a whole host of issues.
            Bill Clinton: I never once voted for that used car Salesman. I never trusted him. He along with Reagan and their respective congresses set the agenda that caused the 2008 economic collapse.” ———————-
            Ha a liberal doesn’t just change his stripes overnight.

            Either you don’t know how to tell the truth, or you are just a bitter old man!

            By the way if the war was for the oil, WHERE IS THE OIL????

          • JeffH

            Jana, where I come from we call progressives like Dave “hypocrits”.
            Remember “the end justifies the means”. Like his progressive liars & heroes, Dave just changes his stripes to suite his immediate needs.
            We’re all supposed to be “neanderthals” and too dumb to notice. DUH!

          • Dave


            You need to squeeze off a few rounds today. Your “mind” is all clouded again today. Please tell me the country Obama created a war in and occupied that country. Oh thats right, Obama didn’t. Oops…i have said my position on detaining Americans without due process many times, The only liar here is you Jeffrey and your conservative cabel. You and your friends have made it quite clear that your hatred of Obama supercedes anything else in your sad little lives. But thankfully, you have a gun range to get all that anger out and that allows you to feel more like a man.

          • JeffH

            Dave47D, you’re beginning to come unglued like Jeff.
            Seek some serious help!

          • Dave

            Says the man who has a pic of Obama with the hammer and sickle… Jeffrey, you crack me up my little conspriacy theorist

          • Dave


            Let me clarify a few things for you.

            1) The Iraq war was based on a false premise and Iraq’s. nuke capability was a huge lie as was Bush’s subtle linking of 9/11 and Iraq.

            2) the war for oil was never to reduce your cost at the pump. It was to make money for the oil industry. I invide you to look what happened to the pice of oil starting in 2003. The price went up substatially. It only came crashing down when the commodities market crashed in Sept of 08. Look it up. Follow the money.

            When the GOP’s mission during the largest recession since the depression is to make sure Obama fails is traitorous. I got behind Bush after 9/11 even though I knew he was a dolt because it was the right thing to do for America.

            Now we have Benghazi, the GOP do not care about the level of security at our embassys. They are focused on the 2016 election. Their whole focus is to try expose a coverup by Clinton AFTER the attack because of a differing wording put forth by the CIA vs State. Even Bush’s former security expert in the middle east said there was nothing those security forces could have done in such a short time. But then again, the security are not the focus as I said, but those people who died are being used as a tool by the GOP. Unlike 9/11 or when over 100 Embassy workers and 13 Americans died under Bush and the Dems did not use these attacks as a tool. So yeah… I am angry because the GOP are at it again playing politics.

            You asked me about what I disagree with when it comes to the Dems and I gave you prime examples but you know me so well, you say I am lying. Thats ok, because I place limited value on the opinion of those who buy what many posters and authors here are trying to sell.

          • Jana

            This is how you answered me the last time and I didn’t appreciate it. You are the one who called me a liar, I didn’t say you were! I told you something about me and you stomped on me. That wasn’t nice. I don’t like it!



            2 days ago

            HA!!! Have have good friends in
            the military too so don’t hand me your holier than thou BS. Bush had
            their back??? Is that why Bush lied this country into war in Iraq using
            9-11? Is that why he continued with the tax cuts during two wars to
            ensure on military families are the ones sacrificing? Is that why
            soldiers did 4 and 5 tours because of this scumbag? Is that why Bush did
            not do the right things by the soliders returning?

          • Jana

            I don’t need your clarification, you need to apologize! You were rude. I trusted you when I poured out my heart to you and told you about myself and this is how you answer me****HA!!! Have have good friends in the military too so don’t hand me your holier than thou BS.***

            I certainly don’t trust you any more!.

    • JeffH

      Doc, nobody’s blaming the POTUS “FOR” the attack…DUH!

      Haven’t you wondered, even once, about the lack of action by the State Dept. & this administration during the attack, the cover-up excuses, and the lies(blame it on the video)?

      In the real world, when you cover up four murders after the fact, you likely go to jail. In your world I gues “s**t happens”.

    • Jana

      The difference on these attacks were NONE of our first responders were told TO NOT RESPOND. NONE WERE TOLD TO STAND DOWN. No one had to lie about it.
      I guess it doesn’t bother you that your President lied to you, and that Hillary lied to you and therefore let 4 Americans who were out doing America’s business were left to be murdered without the President or the Secretary of State lifting a finger to help.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Well said Jana! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
        “I am grateful to Almighty God for the blessings which, through Jesus Christ our Lord, He has conferred on my beloved country.”
        Charles Carroll
        Founding father
        Devout Christian

  • me

    we need the mccain wacko birds. they are about our last hope.

  • Chester

    Chip, I have already seen it demonstrated that unless something comes out that PROVES Obama called the demonstrators out and told them to hit the ambassador, you are going to call them liars. You and a good number of others like you can’t stand the truth if it isn’t the “truth” you want to hear.

  • William

    Missouri Congresswoman Ann Wagner (R) directly blamed President Obama for ordering the stand down which facilitated the assault on the US consulate in Benghazi.

    Wagner was asked by talk show host Dana Loesch, “Because you have been an ambassador, you have been overseas with similar responsibilities and similar missions – who gives such an order to stand down? Where does that come from?”

    “The President of the United States,” responded Wagner.

    They are all guilty OBama, Clinton, Rice and a host of others! More names will come out as the rtats try to leave the sinking ship!

    The White House has been scrambling to avoid the question of who gave the stand down order ever since whistleblower Greg Hicks, who was number two to Ambassador Chris Stevens, testified that US special forces were ready to board a plane in Tripoli but were prevented from coming to the aid of those under assault inside the consulate.

    Hicks revealed that after Stevens had been killed but while the attack was still ongoing, “The Libyan military agreed to fly their C-130 to Benghazi and carry additional personnel to Benghazi as reinforcements,” including US Special Forces, but that a call came through from Special Operations Command Africa saying, “you can’t go now; you don’t have authority to go now.”

    “They were told not to board the flight, so they missed it.” Hicks said.

    In the hours after the stand down order was given, three more American diplomats were killed by terrorists who laid siege to the consulate.

    The Obama administration denies that any kind of stand down order was given, a claim that rings hollow given the White House’s attempt to cover up the nature of what happened in the days after the attack, claiming instead that it was a “protest” sparked by a YouTube video.

    It was also recently revealed that the State Department hired Al-Qaeda-linked militants to “defend” the diplomatic mission in Benghazi that was later attacked. State Department officials who blocked efforts to help Americans under assault later tried to hide Al-Qaeda’s involvement in the attack.

    As we have exhaustively documented, the Obama administration’s support for Al-Qaeda-linked militants in Libya, which led to the toppling of Colonel Gaddafi, directly contributed to the attack on the consulate and the death of Ambassador Stevens. The very hospital that Stevens was taken to in the last moments of his life was run by the same terrorists who attacked the consulate and who had been empowered as a result of the White House’s military intervention in Libya.

    Despite some predicting that the Benghazi cover-up could lead to the impeachment of Barack Obama, an almost identical situation is now unfolding in Syria as a result of the White House’s support for Al-Qaeda terrorists in the pursuit of regime change.

    Despite the fact that militants in Syria have openly espoused their hatred for the United States – burning American flags in public while praising Osama Bin Laden and glorifying the 9/11 attacks – the Obama administration is preparing to send them heavy weaponry.

    A growing body of evidence also suggests that the entire purpose of the consulate in Benghazi and Ambassador Stevens’ role there was to oversee clandestine arms shipments to Syrian rebels.

    The bottom line here is those responsible should be tried and impeached for treason. Its time we all wake up and hold these idiots accountable for these crimes! If we the people seriously want to take this country back then its Katie bar the door!

    • satelliter

      100% correct…but nothing will happen as a result. Obama knows he can do anything he pleases without consequences. He has been doing it for 4 years so, he is empowered to continue to do so without fear.

  • mnkysnkle

    I don’t want to decry the importance of this issue, but let’s not forget about the reason Stevens was there. That’s just as important. A lot of people it seems, were involved in running guns (to possible Al Queda operatives) in an effort to overthrow a regime illegally. That’s why they weren’t working out of the consulate.

  • Deerinwater

    Any police department in the nation has the right and power to control the release of sensitive information about a crime as an investigation is underway in their efforts to bring criminals to justice. I fail to see how this same tool is not available to the top administrative office in the nation.

  • Deerinwater

    The only thing in great supply here , is too much spare time on your hands. ~ You are a losing ground with every word spoken once you leave this “free zone” of mindless gibberish.

    Your are grasping and crawling, attempting to be seen as “significant” as a political force with little results ~ the people that will believe you ~ are already on your side.

    Bad news is something that mature people must learn to reconize with everyday. It’s not uncommon for any person to want to make bad news into good news and it can be done, but only to degrees without losing sight of the reality of the event.

    This tragedy is still unfolding and the search for the criminals that done this is still ongoing. I would hope that it would not be to much to ask of any of you to keep your eye on the ball and let’s bring these criminals to justice and their final reward in this world and allow the All Mighty to decide their faith on their delivery.

    Time moves only one direction ~ forward ~ This desire to spend more time looking back then you do forward can be your downfall. ~ As I could very easily look back to Beirut 1985 and blame Reagan’s administration for the loss of 300 American souls for gross failures in judgement and his reaction to it that has cost even more American lives. ~ But I and not going to do that ~He was my President and he made a decision ~ A decision that only he was was entrusted to make and we must live with that and move on.

  • steve buckner

    Obama seems to be helping to kill off any and all people he see’s as an enemy to him becoming the last dictator in a free world. Maybe not free for long if he gets his way. Our ( celeberity President ) wants everyone to love him and his family. People need to wake up to the fact that he will say and do anything that keeps him in power, even if it means he has to lie to himself about it. Obama thinks he is the smartest person in the room, but, critisism he can’t take because he is a sociapath. If one listens to him he always trys to come off as smooth but, when reading between the lines one gets the feeling he is lieing through his funguss ridden brain. He promised at his grand innaguration that he would uphold the constitution, and his fingers were crossed behind his back. Obamma has subverted the constitution at every turn, for his own made up right and wrong as how things are supposed to be in ( Obamma’s fairy world ),

    • mspatdev

      Well, I DO NOT LOVE HIM, I HATE HIM for everything that he has done to this country since his first election. He has taken our country down to a 3rd world country. He has wanted to do this for many, many years. He is doing what his father wanted the USA to be. Now he wants to be king of the USA and the world. Well, obammy ain’t going to be that as only one King we will have. That one King will be God and no one else.

  • vietnamvet1971

    The Great One O’Puke needs to look presidential by Banging his fist on the Podium and snarling like Ole Hillary girl that seemed to get her off the Hook.

  • rain dancer

    With the brain dead fks who vote for these Dumborats, and this last election is showing how corrupt and dishonest the fascist/communist, and now marxist Democrat Party, Trying to say these 3 corrupt criminalized actions, of Dems are, Watergate was a burarly gone bad, and no one died. Clintons were tied to several strange murders, missing records and drug shipping and selling contra band. Obama and his Chitcago thuggery on steriods, makes this administration the worst one, and more like a dictator 3rd world muslim cess pool country.

    • Bob666

      “With the brain dead fks who vote for these Dumborats, and this last election is showing how corrupt and dishonest the fascist/communist, and now marxist Democrat Party”
      Perhaps you should change your name to very light drizzle.

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  • Wyatt

    When you elect trash , you get trash ! America has done that twice in recent years , The Clintons , trash act one and now Obama , trash act two . Hillary as the next president ? GOD help us !

    • Bob666

      actually, they have done it four times in the last 13 years.