Personal Liberty

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    John McCoin Blasts Vladimir Putin: An Old KGB Apparatchik With Dreams of Restored Russian Empire http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZavV4kUIATw

    But Putin’s joke about American spy is in the airways mocking the Liar-and-Pompous Ignoramus:
    A man came to Lubyanka* and said:
    – I’m a spy and I want to surrender.
    – Who’s spy are you?
    – I’m an American spy.
    – Well, then you ought to go to room #5.
    So he went to room #5 and said:
    – I’m an American spy and I want to surrender.
    – Do you have any firearms?
    – Yes, I do.
    – Then you have to go to room #7.
    He came to room #7 and said:
    – I’m an American spy, I want to surrender and I have a firearm.
    – With firearm you have to go to room #10.
    He came to room #10 and said:
    – I’m an American spy, I want to surrender and I have a firearm.
    – Do you have a communication device?
    – Yes, I do.
    – Then go to room #20.
    He comes to room #20 and says:
    – I’m an American spy, I want to surrender, I have a weapon and a communication
    device.
    – Do you have an assignment?
    – Yes, I do.
    – Well, then go and complete it – don’t interrupt people’s work!
    —————————————-­———————————-
    *Lubyanka (Cyrillic: Лубянка) is the popular name for the headquarters of the
    KGB and affiliated prison on Lubyanka Square in Moscow.

    • Vis Fac

      было комитетом для обеспеченности положения законченного
      в 1991 и было заменено = (Федеральная Служба Безопасности ).

      Da! KGB Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti
      was the Committee for State Security of the USSR ended in 1991 and replaced by the FSB. Federalnaya Sluzhba Bezopasnosti = (Federal
      Security Service).
      Semper-Fi

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Дa, ты прaв, мoй друг! – Yes, you’re right, my friend.

        • Vis Fac

          Я сужу за мой друг, котор я не вывешиваю для я не знаю ничего из. Имейте хороший день

          I try my friend I don’t post on things I know little or nothing of. Have a good day
          Semper-Fi

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Thank you for wishing “хороший день”.
            Same to you. Have a good day.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    “Ben, You really do look better without the facial hair.” – Karolyn (December 22, 2012)
    Ben, today Karolyn definitely will like you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auGUhSKADCo

  • dan

    Ben,I must agree,,you do clean up well…and this from a guy that’s had
    a full Grizzley Adams since age 12,lols (saves on those pesky bibs)…
    .but though your looks may fade , your humor is timeless

    • nc

      Dan, Ben’s attempt at humor is “timeless” It’s dead on arrival!

      • Vis Fac

        As dead as that thing occupying space in his cranial cavity?

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        So are all your posts, but we just don’t say anything. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        • independent thinker

          nc’s posts are so dead they smell like 3 day old road kill on arrival.

  • terryk

    Congress should not be able to exempt themselves from the laws they pass maybe then they would think about what they foist on the american public. any congressman or senator that votes for exemption should be voted from office

    • organicroseski2

      This is just in general: Dems in Congress asked the W/H to keep the Congressional staff from having to pay the 75%. The Office of Personnel Management came up with the solution. This was considered a drafting error in the Heath Care Bill; therefore, Congress did not vote on the correction–OPM corrected it. This law was too big and fat and against the Constitution (no matter what the Supreme Court said). If this was a class project it would have gotten a “D.”

      • LogicAndTruth

        F….. Nowhere near a D.

        • organicroseski2

          I gave them a “D,” for effort as they would in the classroom, as long as the class was not on Constitutional Law. But I wanted so much to give them a “F.”

          • nc

            Organ, any thing but a B as in bush. Have any of you ever studied the figures that Clinton left for him as compared to the figures he left for Obama?? NO???? Why not?? 69 million other Americans did in 2008!
            BTW, the Constitution and the Supreme Court have the same daddy!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Bush, baaaaa! Clinton surplus, baaaaa! Lies about Bush, baaaaa! SSDD, eh no cajones? Here are some articles dealing with Obama bin Laden Care.
            http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/blue-cross-aetna-united-humana-flee-obamacare-exchanges
            http://www.dailycaller.com/2013/08/07/members-staff-will-keep-healthcare-subsidies-under-obamacare/
            http://www.lastresistance.com/2985/obamacare-not-ready-on-schedule/
            http://www.lastresistance.com/2980/will-obamacare-be-used-to-punish-gun-owners/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
            2 Corinthians 5:17

          • smilee

            More propaganda sites cited by sammie it is the food to that keeps him ignorant and in the dark.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            “As a dog returns to his own vomit, so a FOOL libtard smilee REPEATS HIS FOLLY.” – (Proverbs 26:11)

          • Vis Fac

            Smilee suffers from cerebral necrosis he cannot mask the obvious that of being a stupid Sheeple!

          • smilee

            When you run out of anything intelligent to say you always resort to this silliness!!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            So, WHEN you’ll STOP to resort to the Liberal/ DEMONcratic SILLINESS and LIES???????????

            “All propaganda must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those toward whom it is directed will understand it … Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.” – Adolf Hitler

            “The MOST STUPID of those” includes deranged slave of the voluntary ignorance and deceits, smilee.

          • smilee

            Your remind me of a dog chasing its tail. It gets dizzy and that explains all your dizzy comments.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Oh, dear, it’s very easy to explain the Liberals’ dizziness.

            The Liberal Dizziness is a side effect of the liberals’ allergy to the TRUTH, especially when their lies, deceits, tricks, cheats, frauds are ineffective, unsuccessful, failed, unproductive – in VAIN and FRUITLESS.

            So, smile, keep to puke your liberal diarrhetic nonsense.

          • smilee

            Like I said the truth bears repeating: “Your remind me of a dog chasing its tail. It gets dizzy and that explains all your dizzy comments.”

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Like you said the truth bears repeating: The Liberal Dizziness is a side effect of the liberals’ allergy to the TRUTH, especially when their lies, deceits, tricks, cheats, frauds are ineffective, unsuccessful, failed, unproductive – in VAIN and FRUITLESS.

            So, smile, keep to puke your liberal diarrhetic nonsense.

          • Bob666

            And your Dizziness is crack withdrawals?

          • smilee

            The truth always bears repeating!!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            “Do not speak in the hearing of a fool smilee, for HE DESPISES THE TRUTH and WISDOM” – King Solomon (Proverbs 23:9)

          • smilee

            Does not apply to me as I speak the truth!! Yoour put down is a joke!!!!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            This is a biggest joke (!!!): Libtard “speaks the truth”

          • Ringgo1

            YOU are a joke, smelly.

          • independent thinker

            No, you speak an opinion just as you accuse others of doing.

          • Michael Degrood

            Um, what the F*#k does bush have to do with Obamacare? Typical liberal, trying to shift blame for a failed, hypocritical, expensive, inefficient government policy.

          • organicroseski2

            To start with, it is organic as in organic food, or organic chemistry. 2th: Bush or Clinton does n’t have anything to do with the contents. 3rd: You asked a question, then answered it in a snotty way. 4th: The Constitution and Supreme Court is not the same. The Supreme Court was to be equal–balance of power. Somehow, they took more power. Some of the judges are reading their wants rather than going by the Law of the Land–The Consitution .

          • nc

            ORGAN, have you ever been in a law library which contains the US Supreme Court decisions on what the Constitution, the Law of the Land, “says”???
            Volumes and volumes containing hundreds and hundreds of case where citizens: liberals, moderates, conservatives and ultra conservatives have availed themselves of their Constitutional right to use the Constitutional methods of having the Supreme Court telling them if their opinion of what is “says” is correct. That is the American Way even when the Court decided against you!
            The conservative or ultra conservative OPINION is not an automatic winner regardless of how fervent your belief is!
            The Constitution was and is a pretty progressive document! There was nothing else like it in the world at the time and there has been nothing else near it since.
            BTW, neither the Constitutional nor the Bible promise a perfect world>
            I would like to take the opportunity at this time to thank the Republican majority on the Supreme Court for giving us Roe V. Wade! Good job! Not perfect, but a good job!

          • AttMore

            I give them an F, for “FOOLS”.

          • organicroseski2

            You win me on that.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I can’t argur with what you all are saying. They need to be replced ASAP. Here is an article about the governments and Obama bin Laden’s indifference.
            http://www.capitalhilldaily.com/2013/08/benghazi/#more
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            3rd President of the U.S.
            Orthodox Christian

          • smilee

            More propaganda sites cited by sammie it is the food to that keeps him ignorant.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            “As a dog returns to his own vomit, so a FOOL libtard smilee REPEATS HIS FOLLY.” – King Solomon (Proverbs 26:11)

          • Bill

            Good analogy

      • Vis Fac

        Man are you generous did you grade on the curve? I’m rather confident in saying this would not be a class project because our liberal indoctrination camps masquerading as public schools do not teach government anymore instead they are more concerned pandering to political correctness issues. In the PRC (People’s Republic of Commiefornia) LGBT issues are at the forefront apparently the sensitivity issues of these freaks are of utmost importance Not only are they pushing LGBT acceptance but the latest bill (AB1266) sponsored by homosexual-bisexual-transsexual activists, would force all K-12 public schools to permit biological boys in girls’ restrooms, showers, clubs, and on girls’ sports teams; and biological girls in boys’ restrooms, showers, clubs, and on boys’ sports teams. I am reasonably sure there is need for actual academic instruction but we must be politically Correct right?
        As the PRC goes the nation is soon to follow.
        Sick Sick Sick did I mention perverted?
        Semper-Fi

        • Timothy Sullivan

          Let’s see..now if there happen to be any sexual “escapades” (and there are sure to be some) related to the enforced male/female propinquity, will they be judged heterosexual,homosexual,asexual (see the Bill Clinton statement re: Monica Lewinsky) or something new? For example if a boy who thinks he’s a girl has forcible sex with another girl is this a heterosexual or homosexual act? What about any progeny engendered by these acts, are they to be cared for by the parents of these children,cared for by the state,aborted? The legal ramifications are absolutely endless. Oh but wait ! In this case the Obama administration is sure to give itself a pat on the back because it has created many new jobs for lawyers and public bureaucrats. Again another way to step in excrement and come out smelling like a rose!

          • Bill

            This is a new jobs program to keep all of those out of work attorneys working

          • Ron

            yeah but they will have Obamacare!!

          • Vis Fac

            What is has always boiled down to with liberal tenet is CONTROL. They want to control and make everyone abide and live by their sick credo. They FORCE their will on everyone through intimidation, statute, or both.
            To me a “real job” entails the producing of tangible items not taking up space and getting paid to sit on their butt and produce nothing. Every government employee does not produce anything but merely saps resources from the public. Those who are productive see the fruits of their labor being taxed to support those on government payroll and entitlement programs
            Semper-Fi

        • organicroseski2

          Yes, the schools and teachers that push that even on young students that have no clue what they are taking about, are perverts. On a nicer note, thank you for your service Marine!

      • smilee

        Another who thinks he knows more about the Constitution than the judges do, your opinion is protected by it but that does not make it true!

      • smilee

        Another who thinks he knows more about the Constitution than the judges do, your opinion is protected by it but that does not make it true!

        • Vis Fac

          Judges like the police have egos and believe they can make up laws they go Neither has an inkling of what is contained in OUR constitution, they merely interpret what they know as set by president. Had they known the constitution most of their decisions would not be adjudicated ans cases thrown out due to the unconstitutional application of statute. AND as you have appointed yourself as sole legal counsel the same can be applied toy YOUR opinion as well.

          • smilee

            You make the same mistake you accuse the police and judges of (your accusations on them are inaccurate except in rare cases) making. I did not appoint my self anything I merely offered my opinion and it agrees with the Judges opinion expressed in the decision. Just because they did not agree with you does not mean anything except you got it wrong.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            What you are afraid of is that Force Recon may be right in what he says. Your opinion is clouded by fear. Force Recon would not have untoward consequences if he was wrong but your little world would have the foundation pulled out from under it.

    • Vis Fac

      Tell that to those hypocrites in congress!
      Semper-Fi

  • Jeff Noncent

    the Rat care is a disaster because the Rat doesn’t know what’s the difference between, health care, and health insurance

  • Al Chemist

    Satire is the best when it’s the nearest to the truth. Some good ones here, Ben.
    I hope someone keeps up with who exactly (in the House or Senate) decided to exempt themselves from Obama Care while the rest of us have to suffer through it. If nothing else, it would give me great pleasure to vote against them in the primaries of 2014.

    • smilee

      85% of the employees in this country are exempt too, they will have the same plan after Obamacare takes effect except their plans will no longer be denied for preexisting conditions, no lifetime limits and their children can be covered until age 26 in most cases. So what is not to like? Others who before who did not have insurance can now get it, you hate that too? Your not going to suffer because of this law as your coverage’s will be much better than what you have now. Them is just some of the facts!

      • Vis Fac

        Who says you cannot get insurance? The self employed have done so for decades through “Private” insurance brokers. Just because you are too lazy to do things for yourself doesn’t warrant you to make stupid inaccurate remarks. The only difference now is you don’t have the right or the option to opt out of having to purchase insurance (another assault on our right to personal freedom)
        Bozo’s like you are always wanting to legislate OUR freedoms away to satisfy your petty egos. You just can’t resist wanting to fix things that aren’t broken.
        What you perceive to be broken is a product of your unwillingness to take responsibility for yourselves so you want government to force the issue.
        Semper-Fi

        • smilee

          Who says you cannot get insurance? I don’t know was not me.

          Your entitled to your opinion but the Constitution disagrees with you on this as the court confirmed with their Obamacare decision your not liking that is fine and your exercising your freedom of speech to express that with your angry rantings is something we liberal respect but you putting down those that that disagree with you with disrespect. Is that nice?

          • Vis Fac

            The constitution does not agree with anyone It is the Rule of Law that the current administration sidesteps via executive order. The fact that people do not have a CHOICE thus eroding a basic freedom is in itself Unconstitutional If you don’t acquire health insurance you can be fined for not doing so is just another liberal power control issue Hiding behind the IRS is sinister and having the IRS oversee this debacle is criminal.
            So go ahead be one of the flock put your faith in an establishment that is known to reign terror on the American people and let those who have no conscience or duty to that establishment make medical decisions for you that your doctor should and can no longer do.
            The real issue is YOU DO NOT HAVE the authority or MY permission to dictate policy that effects my person or my family. You liberals think you can take license to do so. You are wrong and in the end you will be sorry for your actions PERIOD!!!!

          • smilee

            We do not need your permission when the Constitution says it is not needed, powers granted to the Congress lets them exercise that power and does not require your permission or mine and whatever congress does it will never have the permission of all, some will give permission some will not that is irrelevant The Constitution is not. Your anger over it is personal but that has no bearing on weather this was done legally or not. If you read the Obancare opinion you would then know why Roberts did what he did. I read it and I agree with his reasoning as I believe he got it right. So many here respond only to the rhetoric and ignore the content of the opinion which is very different so of course they then cannot respond correctly as you have not.read it.

          • Katrael

            smilee, the Congress and Senate are supposed to be accountable to us. Sure they need our permission especially to step out of normal bounds. However, that’s not the way it works anymore.

          • smilee

            They need the permission of the majority (that does not include everyone just the majority) to be elected but there is no law that tells them how to vote in congress, it has always been that way

          • Vis Fac

            That’s the liberal way, unfortunately apathy has created this mess it will be hard to repair the damage. When ever you have mindless people in charge things go south very quickly.
            Semper-Fi

          • Katrael

            Apathy is a good word to describe what’s going on these days.. It seems they are only concerned about the next reality show and the next round of drinks.

            I don’t know if the people in charge are mindless? That depends on your definition. The people in charge may be mindless if they are merely puppets but I believe they know exactly what they’re doing. They’re out for power and wealth. Mindless to greed perhaps?

          • John

            The SCOUS said that it was a tax. That is legal. The dems of course claim that it is not a tax. The middle class has 21 new taxes on it. Marxizt hate the middle class. Marx whole point was to destroy government and create misery. Starting with the denial of God. That is what the Dems have done. The Dems are the party of evil and have been since the founding of our country.

          • smilee

            So result is the same, Besides before the court the Obama administration argued that it was both a tax and and a penalty so they knew it was a tax but as the GOP is opposed t sny tax they tried another term in hopes of getting some votes from them. Did not work but before the court they argued it was a tax.. Nothing else you say has a word of truth in it.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            You are talking like a full blown Statist, that anything the State does is fine with you because they are doing everything for you and the State is always Infallible.

          • Vis Fac

            ANYTHING that is unconstitutional is legally not enforceable. So people like you who want to disarm me and or circumvent my rights had better prepare to die. I WILL defend MY constitutionally rights I want you to lead the assault so you can find out first hand how serious I am

      • trugrits

        here is a fact. people that had preexisting could get coverage before bocare. You could get insurance through the state high risk pool. Yes it was expensive but you could get it. Because it was so expensive is why people didn’t get it.
        I have not heard anyone saying under bocare that those with preexisting would be able to get their insurance for same price as a healthy person. So if that is the case then nothing has really changed. Just more propaganda to make people think bocare is so great. Maybe I am wrong but I have not heard different.

        Also if bocare is so great as people think then why are the politicians exempting themselves from it? People will believe anything and really have their brains on dancing with the stars. The stars being the politicians.

        • smilee

          Not all states had it and many in states that did could not afford it now the will be able too. Premiums are based on the size of the pool and adding 30 million vastly increases the size of the pool and the larger the pool the lower the rate, it remains to be seen, but some think premiums might come down and at worst lower increases than in the past despite the preexisting clause. Low income will be subsidized so the should be able to afford it if the premium is higher due to preexisting conditions. 85 % of employees are exempt from it now as they will remain on the plan they had before and will not be buying on the exchanges so that claim is pure BS. Also Ins companies can no longer charge premiums that have overhead over 20% (this is already in effect) the balance must be paid put to the provider if they do overcharge they have to either reduce the next years premium in the amount of the overcharge or rebate it which they have been doing and increases have been less than in previous years and many expect in the future costs will come down some but a lot depends on provider charges.

          “People will believe anything” You sure proved that statement of yours correct as you do believe all their BS

          • trugrits

            No. Actually you are the one believing all their BS. I guess hundreds of people reporting their health care premiums as well as deductibles have gone up is all BS. But of course you wouldn’t believe that because you will not find those reports where you get your info from.
            Yep you get your info from people will believe anything we tell them dot com. Also known as birds of a feather get plucked dot com.

          • smilee

            Interesting as insurance companies are not releasing their premiums for 2014 until next month so no one knows for sure as yet and as Obamacare does not take effect until 2014 it has had no effect before and we will see next month. Everything out there now is mere predictions and the past does not apply. So contrary to your BS no one knows for sure as yet. Your so silly!

  • FreedomFighter

    Great 8 as per usual Ben
    Whenever you ask someone what is so great about Obama Care they always say the same thing—It will force coverage of existing conditions.
    I tell them its a trick, yes it does say that and then I tell them “if the death panel approves treatment. ObamaCare will kill millions
    Laus DeoSemper FI

    • ridge runner

      It can not take care of stupid of any degree.

    • Warrior

      FF – I saw about 5 minutes of the “psychobabble news conference” yesterday. I am now convinced our entire food and water supplies have been “compromised”. Rod Sterling couldn’t even had envisioned this.

      • Vis Fac

        But Stephan King Could!
        Semper-Fi

    • Vis Fac

      SSSHHH Death panels? Ask any liberal and they will tell you those panels are a pigment of your fascination, they don’t exist, or the government wouldn’t do that.

      The old adage that ignorance is bliss must be true for liberals are the most blissful somnambulistic people in the USA.
      Semper-Fi

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Here is something about the libs and death panels.
        http://www.thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/316045-obamacare-cost-cutting-board-faces-growing-opposition-from-democrats
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “Years wrinkle the skin, but to give up enthusiasm wrinkles the soul.”
        Douglas MacArthur

        • smilee

          There never was any death panels that was a figment of Sarah Palin’s imagination and despite that and all the other lies it still became law and bears the stamp of approval of the Constitution as the SC made very clear.

          • Vis Fac

            And you are a pigment of all liberals fascination! And a drain on society!

          • smilee

            Your opinion but it changes no fact in my post so what is you real goal with this stupid statement

          • Vis Fac

            To demonstrate to everyone you are too stupid and that even for a moron of your stature is incapable of comprehending simple truths We all know you didn’t make it to the fourth grade? And if everyone is a moronic as you boy are we in trouble!!

          • smilee

            Sorry, college grad is that too deep for you to understand?

          • Vis Fac

            Nothing you could ever say would be beyond my range of comprehension. You are a legend in your own mind and enthralled to see your name in this forum. Simpletons like you are easily amused.
            I will no longer waste my time on you for I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

            Now that I am sure exceeded your range of intellectual capacity!

          • smilee

            Simpletons have to put down intelligent peoples as that is all simpletons know how to do as they lack the intelligence to do better. Your trying to drag me down to your level shows just how simple you really are!!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            You voluntary dragged yourself down to the level of the liberal moronism.

            Good luck in your Servitude.

          • smilee

            Your so confused and mixed up and I believe that contributes to all your stupid remarks

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            smilee, you are proving that my remarks aren’t stupid, otherwise you would just dismis them.

          • smilee

            I have!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            That is the LIE, the WHOLE lie and nothing, BUT the LIE!!!

            Please keep to deny.

          • smilee

            It is not a lie, but not much in your posts to read. IT’S all bull. Read the law and SC OPINION AND THEN MAY BE YOU CAN SAY SOMETHING INTELLIGENT.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            It is a LIE — Liberal Pathological LIE.
            And as any stupid Liberal you are contradicting
            yourself:

            You do not read my posts … Bla, Bla, Bla … It’s all about Bull.

            Dumb, if you do not read them, so how you know it’s a Bull.

            Fool, check your IQ. It’s below “IMBECILE” level.

            Why would not you talk with Mizz Karolyn. Her mentality on your level.

            smilee: “you tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try again. Trying is the first step towards failure.”

            I hope with your “intelligencia” you know who said that.

            Chao, boob. Have a good sleep.

            And, please, do not bother me. You are very boring.

          • smilee

            I did read your posts and found them full of lies and very stupid rhetoric. You talk in circles.

          • Bob666

            Yo Smilee,

            You might have noticed, Pork-chop is a propagandist, that is what she lives for-it’s hard-wired in her DNA. A student of Vladimir Putin (former USSR-KGB), her objective is to distort, smear and change the perception of people by telling the same lies over and over.

            That is what she is and will always be. to ask her to be different is unrealistic.

          • Katrael

            smilee has a severe reading comprehension problem. It could simply be from a lack of education or, like I suspect, it’s a congenital problem or possibly a hereditary problem?

          • Vis Fac

            Naw! I think it’s because of his cranial rectitus induced hypoxia, cerebral necrosis, or the fact he failed liberal indoctrination camp.
            Semper-Fi

          • Katrael

            Yeah, I like your explanation better.

          • Vis Fac

            I thought you might. It’s too bad Mr. Smilee has comprehension problems I know he doesn’t understand or see the irony especially when he thinks his IQ is superior to the rest of us.
            Semper-Fi

          • Katrael

            I feel that it’s important to reply to people like smilee because if we remain silent that silence will somehow lend credence to their ideology. Otherwise I’d ignore him. Seriously, he does have a reading comprehension problem and he also has a penchant for twisting the meanings of words.

          • Vis Fac

            I don’t. To do so only acknowledges their existence and lends credence to their self esteem. Smilee wants to feel important but much to his chagrin; he is just impotent and not worth the bother to validate. If one ignores an annoyance they tire easy and then fade away.
            Semper-Fi

          • Katrael

            Hmm, perhaps you are correct about that. I feel that I don’t have anything left to say to smilee. You also appear to be correct about the attention that smilee is seeking. The only thing that puzzles me about people like him: why make a target out of yourself? He must be a shill or a glutton for punishment?

          • smilee

            Why don’t you prove me wrong on content, could it be you do not understand it??

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            If you know the law and what it says so well, then you’ll have no problem stating what pages you find these things on, as this is the way of academia. Ooops! I forgot. You only have a GED education. A “dummy diploma” as we called it in the army. Here is a funny video about a dance that is sweeping Egypt. It is anti-Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.politichicks,tv/2013/08/wildly-popular-anti-obama-belly-dance-video-takes-egypt-by-storm/
            Even the Egyptians know your “messiah” is a fraud. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “In living by the Bible, man becomes both ‘humanized and civilized.'”
            Benjamin Rush
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Katrael

            I have already shown you where you’ve been guilty of misquoting me. I have also shown you where you change the definitions of words to suit your agenda. I don’t need to prove anything more to you. Have a good life but go to school and education first.

          • smilee

            Your are incapable of criticizing the content of my posts so you attack me personally. People without knowledge of the subject do that to cover up their ignorance.

          • Katrael

            Calling me a liar is a personal attack. So i just return the favor.
            As to answering your question. What was it again?

          • Vis Fac

            Calling you a liar is not a personal attack merely an observation and reporting of fact. There is no way on God’s earth you have read and understand the 22k and growing pages of the AHC So let me add my name to the list labeling you a prevaricator!

          • smilee

            Your a liar as I have read it, it is not impossible at least for those intelligent enough to read and understand it. No one on here criticizing me has admitted reading it so why should anyone believe they know what they are talking about. You sure do not.

          • Katrael

            Force Recon, I must have got my wires crossed? I had responded to smilee when he called me a liar about something I didn’t say. Also, I never claimed to have read the AHC at all and I had told smilee that I hadn’t read it. I told smilee that I didn’t read it because I didn’t have to to know that the AHC is a monster. I feel that way because the AHC is so big that it can’t possibly work. There are numerous other reasons that I feel it can’t work….at least not equitably for everyone. I also believe that this monster will finish ruining the economy.

          • Katrael

            I do agree with you that calling me a liar would not be a personal attack if it were to be reporting a fact concerning something I had said. that I knew wasn’t true. Smilee claims to have caught me in some sort of lie yet he offered no proof. I feel that’s a personal attack.

            As far as smilee having a reading comprehension problem? I firmly believe that.

          • smilee

            No it is a fact it is only a personal attack if it was a lie.

          • Katrael

            I’m sorry, what was your question again?

          • smilee

            To you to: You have make that up as you do not know anything about me and sir you are 100% wrong and as you cannot rebutt me on content you get personal and that just makes you look stupider.

          • Katrael

            There is no real substance to much of what you say. You say things yet offer little or no validation that I can see. Again, you have a severe reading comprehension problem. I’ve read many of your posts and It’s plain to a lot of other people here that you just don’t get it.

          • smilee

            Until you read the law and the opinion your comments on this are irrelevant!!

          • Vis Fac

            Until you UNDERSTAND the law your point and comments are MOOT. Do you need the definition of moot? you don’t comprehend what you read so I thought I would ask.

          • smilee

            You have make that up as you do not know anything about me and sir you are 100% wrong and as you cannot rebutt me on content you get personal and that just makes you look stupider.

          • Katrael

            You don’t disclose facts from any sources since we’ve been dialoguing.

          • smilee

            The law itself is not a source?? Robert;s opinion is not a source?? I have disclosed them many times but you ignore them and admit you have no idea what they say!!!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here is an article telling about how it will charge hospitals for helping those who are uninsured.
            http://www.thedailycaller.com/2013/08/08/obamacare-installs-new-scrutiny-fines-for-charitable-hospitals-that-treat-uninsured-people/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Better to fight for something then to die for nothing.”
            General George S. Patton, Jr.

          • smilee

            Just once sammie why don’t you reference the law and what it really says and the SC opinion on obamacare instead of all these propaganda sites you are always recommending

          • organicroseski2

            That is not what Howard Dean said July 28, 2013 WSJ.

          • JeffH

            sleepee says “There never was any death panels that was a figment of Sarah Palin’s imagination”.

            I’m guessing that because there isn’t a panel named “death” in the 2700+- pages you believe you’re correct yet you seem to have no issue with a panel of unqualified bureaucrats will determine by rationing doctor fees that could greatly effect what medical procedures and medical treatment you or anyone else can and cannot get. The government will have the authority to deny treatment for those individuals that they deem unfit for living.

            Sounds an awful lot like a “death panel” to me…one that can ultimately determine your fate.

            Me thinks sleepee has been sleepee or outright lying through all of this stuff.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            JeffH, smillee is worried that his care will be rationed or denied.

          • JeffH

            sleepee is a lot dumber than he/she would never admit.

          • smilee

            Not a bit as that will not happen so noting to worry about.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here is an article for you about Obama bin Laden warring against the Constitution.
            http://www.redstate.com/2013/08/08/the-obama-administrations-war-on-the-constitution/
            Here is one about what Obama bin Laden’s brothers in Egypt are doing to innocent people.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/jihad-unleashed-on-egypts-christians/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “The Gospel of Jesus Christ prescribes the wiset rules for just conduct in every situation of life. Happy they who are enabled to obey them in all situations.”
            Benjamin Rush
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Nadzieja, Just look what sprint SMILEE performed. He is too dizzy after a good dose of crack and now he is chasing his tail.

            SMILEE, do not rush. We are here, not leaving yet. Relax and keep talking, boob. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n576e03Ys4

          • John

            When the death panel is made up of loving caring people in the IRS, you just know everything will be okay. Of you would trust you life in the hands of the IRS wouldn’t you?

          • smilee

            They only will collect the taxes from those whom choose not to buy insurance and have absolutely nothing to do with you medically.beyond proof of insurance that requires no medical information. Why all the lies John??

          • JeffH

            Obamacare contains one of the largest tax increases ever imposed on the American economy—at a time when job growth should be the nation’s number one priority. In total, the Congressional Budget Office estimated the Obamacare tax hikes would raise about $800 billion in new revenue over a decade. By 2035, these taxes are expected to raise an additional 1.2 percent of GDP in taxes.

            The tax sections of Obamacare read like a “who’s who” list of bad tax policy. It begins with an increase in the Medicare payroll tax of 0.9 percent for individuals with incomes above $200,000 ($250,000 for couples) in 2013. This tax will depress the demand for labor at a time when job creation is critical for jump-starting the economy. Some may think that this tax will not hit the middle class because of the relatively high initial income thresholds. They are wrong. The income thresholds were purposely not indexed to inflation, so, as the years pass, more and more middle-income families will cross the thresholds because of normal wage growth.

            Obamacare also includes an additional 3.8 percent tax on investment income; a new 2.3 percent excise tax on medical devices that will reduce the size of the industry; taxes on the drug and insurance industry that will be passed on to consumers in the form of higher premiums; and a tax on high-premium insurance plans that will also be passed on to consumers.
            source – The Heritage Foundation, June 21, 2012

          • smilee

            HERITAGE FOUNDATION INFORMATION, is that were you are getting your info from. I am on their mailing list and get all the info they put out. Believe me they are one of the biggest liars about this law and all you say above is simply not accurate and is all lies. HERITAGE FOUNDATION used to be a conservative think tank but in recent years it has been transformed into a conservative propaganda mill. Did you know the model for obamacare was created by them in the early nineties and Romney used this model in MA and none of your predictions came true there either and the far right said the same about it too, it is considered a success by all but the far right radicals who also still lie about it. I now know why you know nothing about this law and you have bought into their propaganda.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You lie sleepee. Here is Indiana, everyones insurance premiums will go up between 85% – 90%. If people couldn’t afford insurance before, they will not be able to now. What is it with you and all these programs that make people lazy, more reliant on government, and makes government bigger than our Christian founding fathers wanted. Here my mother is 76 years old and she thinks they should scrap the whole thing and try to improve the current health system. She was an RN for 52 years and knows a lot more about the healthcare system than you do. Here is an article talking about the death panels in Obama bin Laden Care.
            http://www.thehill.com/blogs/heathwatch/health-reform-implimentation/316045-obamacare-cost-cutting-board-faces-growing-opposition-from-democrats
            Looks like the rats are deserting the sinking ship. If the libturds/progturds say there are death panels, then your posting is nothing more than a lie. But alas! This is all you ever do. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Has government any solid foundation? Any chief cornerstone? I think it has an everlasting foundation in the unchangable will of God. The sum of my argument is that civil government ids of God.”
            James Otis
            The Rights of the British Colonies Asserted and Proved. London: J. Williams and J. Almon, 1766, pp. 11, 98
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            More lies! Your a Joke!

          • Don 2

            smilee, old twisted one, the model for Obamacare was not created by the Heritage Foundation. The Heritage Foundation did not invent the individual mandate, and the MA model differed from what Stuart Butler of the Heritage Foundation proposed in 1989 called “Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans.” The Heritage Foundation and Stuart Butler, have long ago taken a position actively opposing the individual mandate, including in an amicus brief filed in the 11th. Circuit Court of Appeals to the Supreme Court dated May 11, 2011.

          • smilee

            Yes, the individual mandate was given birth by the Heritage Foundation but to today they do not talk about that as they have reversed their position 180 degrees since it was created by them to combat Hillarycare in the early 90’s In 2011 the mpositio you state was their position but not in the early nineties after Hillarycare was proposed

          • smilee

            That panel is an advisory committee of experts and they cannot make law or regulations and if you had read the law you would know that nothing in the law rations coverage’s. Where are you getting all this misinformation and lies??????????

          • JeffH

            sleepee sleeps as usual…where did I mention anything about the “panel” making laws or regulations you dope? Rationing care and limiting doctors fees is not misinformation.

            There can be no dispute that 65% of doctors polled(Thomson Reuters poll) insist that the quality of healthcare will decline if the law goes forward as written.

            Obamacare is a burdensum tax filled nightmare, chocked full of cronyism, a backward step that does nothing to reform the affordable healthcare problem facing millions and, according to thousands of actual medical doctors, will not be able to provide adequate healthcare for everyone but will lessen the quality of care available.

            More Americans will be shifted to Medicaid, even though some states will reject its expansion. More employers will reduce their health benefits or shift away from scenarios where they are required to offer the coverage. More employees will be forced to change their coverage and, necessarily, their doctors too. Many private health insurance options, including some of the most popular lower cost plans, will be eliminated by the actuarial and benefits-design dictates of the law. Most policy experts on both sides of the aisle understand these realities.

            Why are so many Democrats backpeddaling on their support for Obamacare now?

            Experts my arse! Do you actually believe everything you say? You claim you have read all of the pages in the Obamacare legislation. Do you expect anyone to believe you inderstand everything in it? What it all means?

            I think you’re lying when you say you’ve read it and I don’t believe for one second that you understand much, if any, of it.

          • smilee

            Obamacare does not limit any doctors fees it is an insurance regulation law and operates insurance exchanges and all insurance being sold on it are private plans designed by them. True they have to abide by the new coverage’s and regulations and all have to do with insurance not health care itself. Lager pools have always produced lower premiums and these should too.

            Your post is almost all opinions and predictions done by the far right and most will never materialize and your opinions are not based on actual facts. There are plenty predictions to the contrary that you ignore. You admit you have not read it I have and i do understand it and I could care less if you believe it or not. In my seventies and never in my life have I seen so many lies about a law than have been said of this law and this site and its far right regulars are only about lies . For sure you do not understand it. Few democrats trust me are backpedaling and this will not be repealed because they are not backpedaling no democrat is congress will back away from it so it is here to stay and we will know by experience in a couple years that all you say is lies for sure. I only know of two that have criticized it. We hears some of the same things being said of Medicare in 65 & 66 and they were proven to be false and you will see that will be the same here. CBO projections on the actual law still project overall there will be less overall money spent on health care over the next decade. They have been asked to score some scenarios not in the law based on other criteria based mostly on speculations that show otherwise but the results are designed to be used in propaganda and are and you seem a sucker for all that BS. The panel has to have certain experts on it, they will have to all be professionals

          • JeffH

            You’re nothing more than an old fool and everything you’ve posted is just your opinion, nothing more. You’re living a lie and in denial if you believe for one second that Obamacare is a positive move forward in healthcare or the answer to Americans health care problems.

            The ACA is a regressive piece of legislation full of cronyism that does absolutley nothing to solve or reform the high cost of health care, insurance rates or address the cronyism between government and their partner groups they seek to enrich and protect.

            If you think I get all of my info from Heritage then you are dumber than a sack of hammers. Whether you like or dislike the Heritage Foundation they’re a helluva lot more knowledgeable and honest than you are.

            Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Services got the ball rolling in late March when she admitted that Obamacare would raise health insurance premiums.

            Montana Senator Max Baucus, a primary author of Obamacare, called the law a “train wreck”.

            Another author of the law, West Virginia Senator Jay Rockefeller, recently said the law was “beyond comprehension.”

            Oregon Senator Ron Wyden went head to head with the Obama’s Administration’s top healthcare regulator in February. Now that the law is being rolled out, Wyden says a provision in it would price families out of affordable healthcare.

            Zeke Emanuel was a healthcare policy advisor to President Obama and brother to former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel on Meet the Press, admitted that insurance premiums have increased under Obamacare.

            Iowa Congressman Bruce Braley said Obamacare could negatively impact his campaign for U.S. Senate.

            Howard Dean: “The IPAB is essentially a health-care rationing body”.

            Elizabeth Colbert Busch, Democrat, was very critical of ObamaCare claiming it was expensive, hurt seniors, caused unemployment and needed to be fixed. She said: “Obamacare is extremely problematic, it is expensive, it’s cutting into Medicare benefits and it’s having companies lay off their employees because they are worried about the cost of it. That is extremely problematic, it needs an enormous fix,”

            Four Senate Democrats,Sens. Amy Klobuchar and Al Franken of Minnesota, Bob Casey of Pennsylvania and Joe Donnelly of Indiana and two dozen House Democrats have signed on to Republican bills to repeal the law’s tax on medical-device manufacturers. Another 10 House Democrats want to repeal one of the law’s boards charged with containing Medicare spending.

          • smilee

            Minor changes to it and means nothing about their support of the law which is still as strong as ever. You would not make all these idiotic statements if yo ead and understood the law.

          • JeffH

            …and you wouldn’t the moron you are and be shilling for this law if you had read it and understood it.

          • smilee

            You have admitted you have not read it or the SC opinion so your opinions are worthless on this subject as you know absolutely nothing about this law or the opinion. I didn’t know much about it either until I read it

          • JeffH

            You’re a liar and a shill sleepee if you say you read it…you obviously don’t know anything about it.

          • smilee

            Coming from one who admits he has never read it sure makes you look stupid because you can have no idea what it is and covers. Grow up sonny!!

          • JeffH

            Do you actually expect that people should believe you and trust your word on anything, let alone on your say so?

            You have no credibility sleepee…you are a shill and a liar!

            A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees.
            – William Blake

            I am a grown up and that’s why I don’t trust you or believe you for one millisecond.

          • smilee

            If your so grown up why don’t you talk like a grown up. Saying I have no credibility is a very childish statement without documentation to illustrate it. You get a F on that.

          • Don 2

            A panel that consists of 15 faceless, unknown, unelected, Obama political hacks, experts in donating to the Democrat party and furthering the liberal agenda.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here is a simple economics video for you simple mind to watch.
            http://www.comservativevideos.com/2013/08/why-me-thinketh-socialism-stinketh/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “The only means of establishing and perpetuating our republican forms of government it is the universal education of our youth in the principles of Christianity by means of the Bible.”
            Benjamin Rush
            A Defense of the Use of the Bible as a School Book. pg. 112
            Devout Christian

        • Katrael

          How in the world could this Obamacare monster ever work without death panels? We know for a fact that it can’t work anyway especially without them. The costs of healthcare would rise at a hyper-inflated rate without some kind of control mechanism. Thanks for the link. I got a little more education about this Obamacare thing..

        • Vis Fac

          The sad truth is Liberals are all gung ho on things that affect others but when it is not in their best interest they are the first to bail like rats abandoning a sinking ship.
          Then still wont admit to any wrong doing Oh the IRONY
          Semper-Fi

      • smilee

        The death panels died a long time ago and when thy were alive they only existed within the minds of the GOP as there never was any in reality. All the lies they have thrown at this law will not derail it and their greatest fear is when the whole of the population knows what is really in it and come to like it they will again have stuck out as the did with Medicare and Social Security and if it becomes as popular as them, and in time I think it will, it too will be come popular with the vast majority. I think all their lies will be known in the not to distant future and that is their greatest fear because they will again look like the losers they are..

        • FreedomFighter

          “only existed within the minds of the GOP as there never was any in reality”
          You really need to read that beast of a law…its in it, the name was changed from “death panel” to protect the guilty…the amount and quality of care will be decided by a panel of…In the effort to “ration” care and increase …
          Laus Deo
          Semper FI

          • smilee

            I did read the whole law and what Palen erroneously named death panels has been removed. What she wanted removed was a coverage in Medicare that would have paid for a one time consultation with your doctor to talk about end of life issues and to get your questions answered. This was voluntary for the patient and did not give the doctor or Medicare any power what so ever over your end of life , You can still do that if you like but you now would have to pay for it out of pocket as Medicare can not pay for the consultation thanks to Palen and the GOP. That panel you site still exists but has no say so on end of life issues as to denial and will not impose death on you in lieu treatment and that is still in there and the panel never had that power in any draft it is all BS. You have no real knowledge about his law and are only repeating the GOP propaganda which is all false

          • Katrael

            First I doubt that you really read the law but even if you did you’ve show that you lack comprehension skills.

          • smilee

            Did you read it? To dismiss it because you challenge my comprehension skills of which you nothing about without challenging me on its content means nothing but suggest you have not read it therefore you cannot comprehend it.

          • Katrael

            Of course I haven’t read it. I don’t need to to understand that it can’t work. It’s too big and cumbersome to work. All it can do is grow until it consumes it’s host. That’s the nature of all governmental agencies.

          • smilee

            And you base that on what????????? Propaganda you have read???

          • Katrael

            Sure have read about it and it’s not propaganda. Look at the size of your government’s budget. That’s history enough but you could dig into the past and find plenty of examples of how governments have collapsed economies with their voracious appetites for power, control and wealth. The history books are full of examples and I recommend that you stop posting on this site until you’ve learned how to read and comprehend history.

          • smilee

            Your going off on a tangent and ignoring my question! I believe it is because deep down your right and cannot be honest about it and save face.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Nice try at duck and cover, but you have failed miserably. Ha, ha, ha, ha! You are really getting whomped this time. How does it feel to have no where to run and hide? Notice how you have no one to back you up, but the patriots have each other’s back and support? I guess that is what happens to members of the 5th column. Here is an article about what Obama bin Laden is trying to do to the U.S.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/ann-barnhardt-obama-intentionally-collapsing-united-states/
            Here is one showing Negro patriots wanting Obama bin Laden impeached.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/black-patriots-demand-impeachment-of-obama/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “I do not believe that the Constitution was the offspring of inspiration, but I am as perfectly satisfied that the Union of the States in its form and adoption is as much the work of Divine Providence as any of the miracles recorded in the Old and New Testiment.”
            Benjamin Rush
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Vis Fac

            Your questions don’t need an answer. ANYTHING toy government shoves down the people’s throat is GARBAGE. And you are one of many hungry maggots that eat that government GARBAGE

          • Katrael

            You can’t even string a sentence together and get it correct. I do know about your comprehension skills. You consistently quote things I don’t say.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here are some more articles dealing with Obama bin Laden and his administration.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/irs-tea-party-targeting-leads-directly-to-obama/
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-phony-scandals-more-deadly-deniles/
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/whatever-happened-to-all-those-promises-obama-made-during-the-state-of-the-union/
            You and your ilk are losing, so go ahead and raise the white flag or we shall continue to overrun your positions. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Christianity is the only true and perfect religion, and…in proportion as mankind adapt its principles and obey its precepts, they will be wise and happy.”
            Benjamin Rush
            A Defense of the Use of the Bible as a School Book, pg. 93.
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            They contradict what the law says, sorry sammie

          • Vis Fac

            Smilee cannot read he can only look at the pictures. He is a product of the liberal indoctrination camps masquerading as public schools that depends on lame stream media for all his informational needs and government for living expenses — an utterly useless entity taking up space a more deserving individual should have!
            Semper-Fi

          • Katrael

            He probably doesn’t understand what he’s looking at either.

          • smilee

            That is just a simple guess on your part. You are wrong

          • Katrael

            No it’s not a simple guess. I’ve seen it here on this site through your posts.

          • smilee

            You repeat the same mistake every time you read my posts,

          • Nadzieja Batki

            So you deny there will be death panel or managed care panels but your denial will not change the facts because they already exist. What you are doing is getting worried because the possibility exists that you will be one of the ones who will be denied further care. Your past medical records file was getting rather thick when it was paper based, now that everything is getting computerized how many pages are you generating for your care?

          • smilee

            Bull if you could find the death panels you would cut and paste it here and stuff my face in it but we both your lying,. Have not you noticed no one on here who claims there is death panels has posted it. You cannot find what does not exist.

          • Vis Fac
          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Actually, he/she is right about you for you are a less intelligent 5th columner. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • smilee

            Another childish post from sammie.

          • smilee

            Without ever having read the law you come across as very stupid

          • smilee

            Again you make a bunch of erratic statement without a any supporting facts

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            The “supporting facts” are your incoherent and nonsensical mumbling.

          • smilee

            God, don’t you know the difference between an opinion and a fact, your opinions are just that and no where near a fact. My opinion is they are pure nonsense!!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. Or haven’t you heard? Here is something that you, along with your ilk, want for any American that don’t believe the way you do.
            http://www.youngpatriots.com/2013/08/knock-knock-the-feds-are-at-your-front-door/
            Here is one where Obama bin Laden ignores the anniversary of the massacre of Seal Team 6.
            http://www.clashdaily.com/2013/08/seal-team-massacre-anniversary-ignored-by-president/
            Here is another one of the mess ups by Obama bin Laden. There are just so many.
            http://www.politichicks.tv/column/obama-releases-5-more-terrorists-yet-leaves-americas-only-pow-hostage-behind/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Our liberty is founded on morals and religion, whose authority reigns in the heart, and on the influence all these produce on public opinion before that opinion governs rulers.”
            Fisher Ames
            Author of the 1st Amendment
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            Thou shall not give false testimony against your neighbor. And you always are doing that so take the plank out of your eye

          • Vis Fac

            Yes your opinion IS pure nonsense alright!

          • John

            Alondra you are correct and Smilee needs to go to a psychlogist and get unbrainwashed and rerogrammed. That will be expensive, on welfare he will probably just be given a shot of Morphine, about 10,000 mg and he will die happy.

          • smilee

            Johnnie never had welfare in my life I am far to well off for any of that. Why do you make up lies when we bor=th know you have no idea about me. That is childish!!

          • uptohere

            You are correct; the only fact we know about you is that your thinking is seriously impaired.

          • smilee

            From an imbecile that is quite an amusing statement!

          • smilee

            I’m sure it would appear that way to an imbecile like you

          • uptohere

            MENSA would disagree with you.

          • Vis Fac

            I am not in the mood to buy any bridges, nor have I ever seen a turnip truck let alone fallen off one. Being a an indolent liberal you haven’t the mental capacity nor the tenacity to amass the necessary wealth needed to be comfortable so again I say your prevarications are easily recognizable. You are merely attempting to to avert criticism and compensate for your you inadequacies Give it up you are TOAST.

          • smilee

            ROTFL

          • Vis Fac

            This is the typical liberal simpleton response to avoid having to provide licit response – good one! Using text language in a forum is the epitome of indolence yet another condition of the liberal effect.

            The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

            A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

            Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking
            we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power

            …A democracy can best be described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch with a well armed sheep contesting the vote! This too shall be a
            fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            There is no licit response to any thing you say so there is nothing else to do but Roll on the floor laughing my butt off at your insanity.

          • Vis Fac

            I knew you were incapable I rest my case!!!

            The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

            A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

            Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking
            we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

            …A democracy can best be described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch with a well armed sheep contesting the vote! This too shall be a
            fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Rant and Rave all you want. I can not justify responding to all your garbage and personal insults.

          • Vis Fac

            John It is too late for smilee. Cerebral necrosis (brain death) has rendered that option useless and chronic cranial rectitus makes it difficult to find his head and his anus has a tight grip around his neck and extraction would need to involve explosives.
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Hate to disappoint you but have never received any welfare and and this is the statements one would expect from an imbecile.

          • Bob666

            And this coming form a propagandist-priceless!

          • JeffH

            Alondra, you do know that 666 is trolling you?

            The ignorant progressive 666 has made 2 comments so far without substance, both with zero contribution!

            Troll on 666, troll on.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Jeff, he is trolling you as well.

            This delusional ego-centric maniac is following me and all people, who replies to my comment and voting them up: you, samurai, wagontrain, my son. Total he follows 17 people. Click on his Avatar picture and you will see how many “followers” he has (4) and how many he “following” (17).

            But you can to make your Profile Activity privet. (His Profile Activity is privet) If you want, I can tell you what you should to do. Just let me know.

            P.S. Did you reply to his name mistakenly?

          • Bob666

            Yo Pork-“Boboon”-Fest,

            “This delusional ego-centric maniac is following me and all people, who replies to my comment and voting them up”

            Wow, even if, all of that crap was true, I am still sane-a quality that you lack,

            BTW: I have no problem with anyone following me as I have nothing to hide.

          • JeffH

            Alondra, I picked up on that right away and have pointed it out to 666 on more than one occassion…but he just keeps on trolling away. He’s a coward anyway!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Jeff, leave the Satanic bastard alone. He wants attention.
            But did you understand what I asked you about “How to make your Profile Activity privet”?

          • JeffH

            Alondra, I feel no need to privatize my profile.

          • JeffH

            Another substanceless and immature comment by the coward troll 666.

          • Bob666

            Well Jeffery,
            Looking at the crap that you post-the “substance” would be in negative numbers.

            BTW; I don’t need a gun to feel like a man.

          • JeffH

            The coward 666 says “BTW; I don’t need a gun to feel like a man.”
            What’s your point considering the only person to mention needing a gun to feel like a man was you?

            Again, another comment with absolutely no meaning or substance whatsoever.

          • Bob666

            The Hypocrite Jeffery H (H is for Hypocrite) says:
            “What’s your point considering the only person to mention needing a gun to feel like a man was you”?

            Oh contraire Jeffery,
            If someone took away your guns you would craw up in the corner and whimper like a child. Guys like you talk big-all bark and a gun to bite-no nads. How many photos have you posted of a gun?????????

          • JeffH

            666, you are a complete ignoramus and idiot that takes the bait every time it’s offered…a true suckerfish!

            Hypocrit? Hardly!

            Ignorant 666 says “If someone took away your guns you would craw up in the corner and whimper like a child.”
            Irrelevant cojecture!

            Then the ignorant progressive 666 says “Guys like you talk big-all bark and a gun to bite-no nads.”
            You’re the one doing all of the barking moron!

            Then dufus 666 says “How many photos have you posted of a gun?????????”
            I refer you back to my first paragraph……a true suckerfish indeed!

            Keep on trolling 666, it fits you well. LMAO!

          • Bob666

            Oh poor Jeffery,

            Lonely old Hypocrite says:

            “666, you are a complete ignoramus and idiot that takes the bait every time it’s offered…a true suckerfish”!

            No-just throwing the ball for you to retrieve.

            Lonely old Hypocrite says:

            “Ignorant 666 says “If someone took away your guns you would craw up in the corner and whimper like a child.”
            Irrelevant cojecture”!

            No-Just an accurate observation of a coward that talks big.

            Lonely old Hypocrite says:

            “Then the ignorant progressive 666 says “Guys like you talk big-all bark and a gun to bite-no nads.”
            You’re the one doing all of the barking moron”!

            No Jeffery,
            We can go on with this, it’s kind of fun & I don’t even have to give you a treat. now, give your guns a hug as that is all you have in life.

            I know that you will want the last word.

          • JeffH

            Bahhhhb, bahhhhb, bahhhhb 666…thanks for showing everyone else just how much parroting and ignorance you display with your every word. You are transparent 666…most commentors see right thru you.

            Now keep posting bahhhhb 666, keep on trolling!

            Here’s a video of bahhhhb 666 at his family reunion.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d3N7cs4-zg

          • Bob666

            Well-Well Angry old Jeffery,

            “thanks for showing everyone else just how much parroting and ignorance you display with your every word”

            So-just who am I “parroting”? or should we chack that up with the same credibility as you calling people Progressive, Ignorant, etc?

            Are you saying that even your guns don’t love you anymore-can’t imagine why?

            Hers is a video of Jeffery’s girlfriend cheating on him:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmmndjfJpjg

          • JeffH

            Bahhhhb, bahhhhb, bahhhhb 666.

            Here’s more video of bahhhb 666 at his family reunion feeding.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuuM1QhvkPY

            Keep on trolling along.

          • Bob666

            Oh poor Jeffery,

            Always like a lonely old woman -needing to get the last word.

            Here is a video of you and your girlfriend before she dumped you-you looked so much in love, this must have been long before you became a bitter & lonely old man.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_vOQ97gTKg

          • JeffH

            Heh, heh,heh.

            Wrong video bahhhhb 666, that’s your wedding video. I must say your wife looked rather stunning in her tuxedo. Thought your tie and bell were were bit tacky though…they didn’t match at all.

          • Bob666

            Sorry Sad Jeffery,
            But word has it-you are the one who does sheep. The women in my life walk up-right on two legs. But maybe your new alliance with pork chop will score you a pig in the blanket?, Maybe Swine will suite your needs far better.

            But it was a humorous attempt on your part to deflect your love life-or lack there of.

          • JeffH

            bahhhhhhb 666, I never said the women in your life didn’t walk upright…here’s the proof, a video of your wedding reception.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyY0jZWQ75k
            Now you owe me an apology…c’mon. give me another bahhhhh, bahhhh, bahhhhh bahhhhb 666.

          • Bob666

            Poor Old Jeffery,

            “Now you owe me an apology”.

            for what? recognizing that you are a lonely bitter old man who does sheep and now pork?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d9l4XmUR-k

          • JeffH

            Now, now bahhhhb 666, confused again? Apparently you’ve dipped into your family archives by mistake.

            Not to worry though, I found the latest video of you and your OB/GYN buddy at your family “reunion”.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm5eQrg5ohU

          • Bob666

            That’s OK sore loser Jeffery,

            I know that you keep looking for love in the barn yard -but even your Asian girlfriend is cheated on you now?

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4h9syNK7SE

          • JeffH

            bahhhhb 666, your kids are so darn cute. They know who you are, their dad…listen to your son call out your name…bahhhhb, bahhhhhb, bahhhhhb.

            Did you teach that to him or does it just come natural in your family gene pool?
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tx3M0NXTT8

            Thanks for sharing your family video of them…a gift that just keeps giving.

            Heh, heh, heh.

          • Bob666

            Now-Now Sore loser Jeffery,

            The barn-yard is all yours-did you piss of yet another girlfriend Jeffery.

            No one loves you.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVFlcmNAQnE

          • JeffH

            Heh, heh, heh!

            What’s the problem bahhhhhb 666, cat got yer tongue?

            Knock Knock!
            Who’s there?
            Bahhhhb!
            Bahhhb who?
            Bahhhhb 666, that’s who!

          • Vis Fac

            As I stated above
            Semper-Fi

          • smilee

            Read the law before you make statements you cannot support with facts

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Oh, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY???
            WHY would not you follow your own advice, “smart” one???

            WHY would not you read the laws before you deny the statements???

            Oh, wait, I recalled your Liberal Philosophy:
            “Tolerance for me, but NOT FOR THEE”
            but “O’care for Thee, But not for We”

            WHAT a Libtardic H Y P O C R I T E !!!

          • smilee

            “Read the law before you make statements you cannot support with facts”

            Your incoherent in this post! Read the law and SC opinion so we are on the same page and then we can have an intelligent conversation on this . I dare you!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Relax and dare, dear, dare him
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ZYq5xh-Ig

          • smilee

            Read the law and SC opinion or is that to deep for you to understand, more than likely it is thus the reason you ignore it as you do not want to reveal your intelligence level. The utube ref shows your ignorance to as it does not apply or just maybe you thought of it as a joke, not funny though.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Sounds like your posts. Here is another area showing where libturds and progturds are hurting America.
            http://www.lastresistance.com/2991/liberals-set-race-based-school-standards-in-florida-setting-the-bar-lowest-for-blacks/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “The rabbi of the Jews locked in the arms of two ministers of the Gospel was a most delightful sight. There could not have been a more happy emblem.”
            Benjamin Rush
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • NC

            Smillee, only they know what the Constitution “says”! Only they know what is right for all Americans! BUT “THEY” HAVE A PROBLEM! “THEY” MAKE UP ONLY 1% OF THE VOTERS IN NATIONAL ELECTIONS! THANK THE TRUE POWERS THAT BE THAT WE HAVE MADE IT TO NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD WITHOUT THEM!
            MAYBE IN THE NEXT WORLD “THEY” WILL BE PLAYERS!!

          • Vis Fac

            The support is in what you post which is nothing but conjecture fabrications and prevarications I needn’t comment further Case Closed!

          • smilee

            Coming from someone who admits not having read it, is the height of real arrogance!!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            That is a bald faced lie. Tell what page is this on. If you don’t post where to find it, then you are lying. Here is a video where Mike Kuckabee totally destroys Obama bin Laden’s Muslim beliefs.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/mike-huckabee-hammers-islam/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “The Bible should always remain the principle text book in America’s classrooms.”
            Fisher Ames
            Author of the First Amendment
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            Look it up for yourself lazy, few on here have read it but want us to believe they know what is in it with out any factual support. It is on the gov web site. READ IT!!

          • Vis Fac

            It is a waste of time arguing facts with liberals or idiots they always manage to drag you down to their level then beat you with all their experience.
            Semper-Fi

          • Robbie

            Actually the term “death panel” was never in the law. Never. Think about it for just a second. Would those writing the law and wanting to promote it call any part of it a “death panel”? Try to use a little logic. The notion of death panels was inflated from the concept of end of life decisions. In the law doctors are urged to discuss matters such as funerals, wills, inheritance etc with older or sicker patients so that their affaires will be put in order. This is a common sense idea as many folks leave a real financial and legal mess behind for their families to have to deal with.

          • smilee

            It is great to have someone else tell the truth on this. But that will not change the minds of the liars that post on here.

        • organicroseski2

          Hold on, more information will be coming, probably after the election. Howard Dean, WSJ 7-28-13, 6 para down: “The Affordable Care Act’s Rate-Setting Won’t Work.” The board (IPAB) able to stop by setting rates to levels where no doctor or hospital wil take. He now agrees with Palin.

          • smilee

            His opinion time will tell us if he is correct regardless this is a step forward in a very real problem in this country.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            All it does is make the problem worse for the taxpayers and we don’t need. Here is something about your friend Valerie Jarrett.
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12041/valerie-jarrett-named-in-benghazi-and-liberals-go-nuts/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “”To the triune God – the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost – be ascribed all honor and dominion, forevermore – Amen.”
            Rev. Gunning Bedford
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

        • Katrael

          Hey smilee, how do you know what is or isn’t in the Obamaxare monstrosity. I mean, it’s only 2700 pages long. You’ve read it take it?

          • smilee

            2700 page but the equivlent of about 900 if in book form. I read it

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Then you haven’t read the 2700 pages, the “reader’s digest” abridged version doesn’t count. If you are over 65 with multiple health problems that you are not paying the doctors, the hospitals, the pharmacies all by yourself your healthcare will be rationed or denied if you show signs that you are not managing your health.

          • smilee

            Did not know that readers digest di it. never saw it I read it on congress’s website. I am over 65 and I am totally familiar with Medicare coverage’s and your lying as none of what you say is true.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Yeah, Again you sniffed crack and smoked pot.

          • Bob666

            Crack is your choice of drug-you seem to abuse it a great deal and that can be the only explanation for the crap that you spew on this site.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Come on Bob. At least she has been citing sources, so why aren’t you? Since you seem to be receiving SS and know about Medicare, Put it your 2 cents and give some sources to back up what you are saying? It shouldn’t take you long. Here are some articles about Obama bin Laden Care.
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12063/taxpayers-to-pay-for-congress-obamacare-coverage-along-with-their-own-coverage/
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/12065/rats-fleeing-as-obamacare-ship-sinks/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Such is my veneration for every religion that reveals the attributes of the Deity, or a future state of rewards and punishments that I had rather see the opinions of Confucious or Muhamed inculcated upon our youth than see them grow up wholly devoid of a system of religious principles. But the religion I mean to recommend in this place is that of the New Testiment.”
            Benjamin Rush
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Sammy,

            You Tube is NOT a source and what about her comment to Smilee, “Yeah, Again you sniffed crack and smoked pot”.

            Or does she have special rules that only apply to her?

          • smilee

            sammy does not have the intelligence to know the difference, if it sounds good to him he assumes it is true and he only reads and views propaganda sites, never saw him ref to any truthful ones, doubt he would recognize one if he saw one as it would be so strange to his brainwashed pea brain.

          • smilee

            She does sound like she could be on drugs as that would explain her weird statements on here

          • Vis Fac

            You are over 65? Is that in inches or years. Can’t be years as you SHOULD have garnered a little common sense or at least half a brain. Looks like you lost out on both.

            “If a person is not a liberal by age 20 he has no
            heart. However, if he was not a conservative at age 30 he has no brain!” — Sir Winston Churchill

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here is an article showing that Obama bin Laden has made more gaffs than Bush and Palin.
            http://www.rushlimbaugh.com//daily/2013/08/08/barach_obama_makes_more_gaffes_than_george_w_bush_and_sarah_palin_combined
            Here is one where Putin bests Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/08/vladimir-putin-gets-the-best-of-obama/
            Here is a video about the libturds/progturds.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkZtsvAvZrg&feature=youtu.be
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “It will be in your power, ladies…to demonstrate…that the cultivation of reason in women is alike friendly to the order of nature and to private as well as public happiness.”
            Benjamin Rush
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Vis Fac

            Yeah the truncated version of the more than 22,000 pages that omits the pages the DUMBOCRITES don’t want everyone to know. And like the faithful lap dog you are greedily lap it up. No hope for you you stick a fork in you for you are DONE!

        • Don 2

          smile, aren’t you the same idiot who argued with me seven days ago that there were no Obamacare exemptions for congressional staffers? You remember Bob Livingston’s article entitled, “Republicans Show True Colors With Attacks On Lee’s Effort To Defund Obamacare, don’t you? You’re that same idiot, correct? And now you actually want people to believe you again? Do you think everyone is as dumb as you are?

          • smilee

            Do not recall the argument over congressional staffers. The reason there are so many lies about Obamacare out there is that if conservatives told the truth about it would be mush more popular so they lie instead as they do not want people to know what it really is.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Then why are dems leaving Obama bin Laden Care over them, hmmm? Actually, you, along with your ilk, are the losers. Neeeeed to go home and stay there as you bring nothing but lies, innuendo, rhetoric, and hate towards our Constitution and Christian nation. Here is an article about you.
          http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2013/08/06/atheist-group-our-countrys-history-is-godless-so-remove-founding-fathers-religious-quotes#.UgK5NpJlk22
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people alway possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
          Richard Henry Lee
          Senator, 1st Congress
          Devout Christian

      • organicroseski2

        They have to lose their bliss. Howard Dean has agreed with Palin July 28, 2013 in the Wall Street Journal. So the liberals have to listen to that liberal, Howard Dean. “The affordable Care Act’s Rate-Setting Won’t Work.” Reason: Setting medicare rates to levels where no doctor or hospital will go.

      • Robbie

        Some of my elderly relatives in the U.S. have already been killed. They are/were all over 65 and when they went for their regular check ups the doctor asked them to step in to a back room. In a couple of cases the doctor then came in and injected them with a lethal substance. At least there was no pain. Two of these older folk were simply shot in the head either by the doctor or by a roaming “hit” squad set up for this purpose. Rumor has it that older Americans who are on to this insideous plot to get rid of them under Obamacare are already forming groups of survivalists and heading for the hills. Of course they will have to live off the land or steal food from farmers some of whom hopefully may take them in and care for them. Other older folk are escaping the death panels by leaving the country. The evidence for this is the large number of seniors signing up for cruises in the West Indies or the Mediterranean. Other seniors are eluding the death panels by relocating to other parts of the country. Many are leaving New York State, for example, and buying condos in Palm Beach. They think these measures will save them!

        • Vis Fac

          I know many older people that share this concern I have yet to hear of these events from any credible source for confirmation so I would be in error if I were to provide comment. I would be surprised if indeed such events occurred. My middle daughter is a physician and If any of this is true it would be a complete shock. Some of my daughter’s colleagues would sooner find other professions than intentionally harm another human being.
          ODUMBOCARE death panels are comprised of IRS bean counters and have no medical advisors it’s only a matter of numbers. So we all must trust the IRS to manage and administer our health care.

          The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

          A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

          Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking
          we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

          …A democracy can best be described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch with a well armed sheep contesting the vote! This too shall be a
          fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est

          Semper-Fi

          • Robbie

            So are you telling me that you do NOT believe there are death panels? I kind of had you pegged as someone who would be spreading the fear of death panels.

          • Vis Fac

            I said nothing of the sort I said I don’t think physicians would condemn people to death or euthanize anyone

            I said elsewhere that the death panels would consist of BEAN COUNTER types from the IRS. You should read and comprehend what others say and shouldn’t be putting words in peoples mouths

            The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

            A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

            Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking
            we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

            …A democracy can best be described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to
            have for lunch with a well armed sheep contesting the vote! This too shall be a
            fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly
            waiting to disarm us.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

          • Robbie

            I read pretty well. Do you? All I was commenting on was the existence of so-called death panels or not. Personally I doubt any doctor would take part in such a ghastly thought but then I know there is zero evidence for “death panels” in any case. But you still seem to indicate that there are folks out there waiting to bump off old people. Just that they are government types not doctors. Am I right about that?

          • Vis Fac

            Robbie you need to conduct some research. Like I said one of my daughters is a physician she and her colleagues have reviewed the rules and regulations contained in ODUMBOCARE and they are appalled by its content. I believe information coming directly from those who are charged with providing health care is more credible than what the media reports

            Without going into detail; there are regulations prohibiting treatment to certain cases involving the elderly. Al that is allowed is comfort medication nothing more. Refusal to comply would incur a $100K fine for the first offence, $200K for the second, and
            incarceration for the third. This from content in ODUMBOCARE regulations. This again from the physician’s own mouth

            ODUMBOCARE will be administered by the IRS and I doubt there are any physicians affiliated with the IRS. Therefore am panel of NON MEDICAL staff will decide who receives treatment and what kind of treatment patients will receive.

            Don’t you find it odd that those who were so eager to shove this legislation down the publics’ throat are now abandoning it like rats from a sinking ship? I do.

            Here are some links

            http://www.lifenews.com/2013/08/13/obamacare-death-panels-come-to-oregon-committee-may-deny-cancer-treatment/

            http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/316045-obamacare-cost-cutting-board-faces-growing-opposition-from-democrats

            The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

            A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

            Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking
            we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

            …A democracy can best be described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch with a well armed sheep contesting the vote! This too shall be a
            fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

          • Robbie

            I guess there does come a time when certain proceedures are no longer appropriate for certain patients. A heart transplant for a 90 year old frail person might not be such a good idea for example. And, by the way, good old private capitalistic insurance companies have been limiting health care services to their policy holders forever. A close friend of mine in NYC pays $28,000 per year but when his wife came down with breast cancer guess what? Not covered. Insurance companies will also cap certain treatments so that when your expenses reach some amount they cut you off and leave you high and dry. I believe Obamacare outlaws that nifty little action. Boy, talk about death panels. Go no further than the private for profit insurance companies. Don’t you also know that something like 30% of health care dollars goes directly to insurance company shareholders? Obamacare outlaws that kind of rip-off thank you very much. When Obamacare was being debated in Congress one of the hearings had an ex-employee of one of the big insurance companies testify. That woman headed an insurance company department who’s sole job was to try to find ways of denying coverage to policy holders! If you ask me your complaint is with the wrong party.

          • Vis Fac

            Unless you are incapable of reading and comprehending any sort of contract then it is best not entertain the idea of doing so.

            I have walked away from several insurance policies that do not address my concerns and I am not forced into signing any of them. It is too bad your friend failed to read the exclusions

            Of course the idea of starting any business is to turn a profit and to turn a profit you have to be efficient. Coverages and limits “Caps” are like any other insurance and additional coverage can be purchased

            Don’t think for a minute ODUMBOCARE has no limits or caps as it most certainly does. IRS panels make the decision who gets what kind of treatment. Remember my daughter is a physician and has read this monstrosity and I can assure you there are indeed limits set in place.

            If you think that Government is best suited to run anything (especially health care) I would like to point out if that were true then there would be no need for FedEx UPS DHL or any other PRIVATE delivery company because the USPS is doing such a bang up job The same applies to Health Care Government screws things up ROYALLY

            Your words “When Obamacare was being debated in Congress one of the hearings had an ex-employee of one of the big insurance companies testify. That woman headed a department who sole job was to try to find wary of denying coverage to policy holders!”

            The truth is it only one person and her job was to screen for unnecessary procedures.

            With ODUMBOCARE you have as many as SEVEN non medical IRS appointees making that decision. If you still think ODUMBOCARE is for you then go for it you may die early because you WILL be denied a procedure that would save your life.

            One other point if you believe ODUMBOCARE forbids the “pre existing condition” excursion clause you might want to re-think that. The governments uses verbiage that can be interpreted several ways and don’t think for a minute the IRS panel of seven wont be selective in it’s application
            You don’t want to rely on information garnered from a health professional but prefer to rely on misinformation that a politician tells you. Hell Nancy Piglosi didn’t know what was in ODUMBOCARE and said so. She said “in order to know what’s in it we first must pass it” How inane is that?

            Stupidity cannot be legislated out of existence we can only defend against it which is what I am now doing Good Luck

            The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing–Edmund Burke

            A republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president…

            Our republic no longer exists because we have an omnipotent self centered clown in the Oval office who is as unconstitutional as anyone can be. Anyone thinking
            we still live in a republic had best take notice of what OUR elected officials are doing WITHOUT OUR consent. Our republic no longer exists because the people no longer have power!

            …A democracy can best be described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch with a well armed sheep contesting the vote! This too shall be a
            fond memory for our rubber stamp liberally controlled congress is eagerly waiting to disarm us.
            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Wasn’t Sarah Palin attacked and ridiculed for the “Death panel” myth?

      The TRUTH about obamaCare:
      Daniel Kessler, WSJ, June 3, 2013

      Under “obamacare” age 25:
      CA male living in San Francisco will pay 62% more per month
      OR male living in Portland will pay 78% more per month
      Missouri – 89% more
      Indiana – 91% more
      Nevada – 101% more
      http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/america-live/index.html#http://video.foxnews.com/v/2589494424001/insurance-policy-holders-receiving-cancellation-letters/?playlist_id=87651

      This is too much insurance, but not enough healthcare. All is designed for people to die sooner / in early stages of their disease/ illness/ sickness

      New obamaCare tax form mandates Americans to disclose their personal health ID info to IRS and it takes effect in 2014. This will involve millions of new tax documents landing in mailboxes across America every January, along with the usual raft of W-2s, 1099s, and 1098s.
      http://www.atr.org/new-obamacare-tax-form-mandates-americans-a7285

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Well said! Did you know that the major insurance companies will have nothing to do with Obama bin Laden Care? I wonder why this is? Is it because it will cost too much money? Here is an article that explains this.
        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/08/08/Major-Health-Insurers-Abandon-ObamaCare-Exchanges
        Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot..
        “After His resurrection He commanded His disciples to preach the gospel of forgiveness…the Son of God died not only to reconcile God to man, but to reconcile men to each other.”
        Benjamin Rush
        Founding father
        Devout Christian

      • c

        Yes the grilled her to a crispy black on both sides about that one.

        • c

          they

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          Yes. Therefore she left Republicans. Good for her. I think she deeply regrets for McCoin support in his last senate election.

          Watch this Video: Sarah Palin: “I Was Not Allowed” To Tell The Truth About Obama In 2008
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujYfbuKt22o

  • ridge runner

    Best place to start is any of the pukes needs out of office is any one who voted for Obama NoCare followed by any rino that thinks it can be salvaged!

  • Warrior

    So yesterday I’m listening to a “repub representative” from ill-annoy give his “insights” on why the congress can’t risk not funding “oblamacare”. Because the democrats will turn it against us by shutting down the “gubmint” and the american people will hate us. Let me see if I have this straight. In the upcoming “CR”, congress can’t inform us they will fund the entire “gubmint” operations EXCEPT for all facets of “oblamacare”? What’s really disturbing is I didn’t even get a beer with that “pretzel”!

    For those that envision the “repubs” gaining a majority in the senate in 2014 and then the “presidency” in 2017 and then finally “nocare” will be repealed, I have a little secret for you. On second thought, I had better withhold this secret or I may have to leave the country. Hey, are the embassies reopening Monday?

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Hear that Hitlery may be running for president in 2016? Here is an article showing that she is not doing well in the polls.
      http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-hillary-tops-list-of-dems-voters-dont-want-in-2016/article/2533918
      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “Those rights, then, which God and nature have established, and therefore called natural rights, such as life and liberty, need not the aid of human laws to be more effectually invested in every man then they are; neither do they receive any additional strength when declared by the municipal laws to be inviolable. On the contrary, NO HUMAN LEGISLATURE HAS THE POWER TO ABRIDGE OR DESTROY THEM, unless the owner shall himself commit some act that amounts to a forfeiture (commit a crime that takes away the right for whatever period of time).”
      Willaim Blackstone

  • Despereaux

    What are you, all talking about death panels for? Palin stated there would be these panels and everyone said she was wrong, but even at that time all one had to do was look at the European models for healthcare and it would become evident that they really are going to have them. Probably college students with a grocery list will be the deciding factor.

    Say good bye to your parents and grand parents……….

    • Robbie

      This is one of the silliest postings ever on this site and that’s quite an accomplishment!

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Isn’t this the pot calling the kettle black? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

        • Robbie

          No, not at all. “Say good bye to your parents and grand parents”? Where does this nonsense come from? Ther are NO “death panels” and it is toally irresponsible and nasty to harp on this nonsense again and again as if it was true. What is true is that as part o Obamacare doctor and other health professionals are asked to discuss end of life decisions with older patients urging them to keep their affaires in order and to have in place things like wills, power of attorney. This approach is totally the RIGHT idea and is totally common sense.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Three years ago, Dr. Keith Smith, co-founder and managing partner of the Surgery Center of Oklahoma, took an initiative that would only be considered radical in the health care industry: He posted online a list of prices for 112 common surgical procedures.

    Self-funded companies, like individual patients, can negotiate directly with hospitals for lower price. Recently a handful of self-funded Fortune 500 companies struck deals DIRECTLY with major hospitals to care for their patients for a negotiated fee.

    In Oklahoma City, there’s an alternative health care market taking shape in which hospitals offers competitive FLAT FEE prices to self-funded companies. And it’s all modeled after the Surgery Center.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0uPdkhMVdMQ#!

    http://reason.com/reasontv/2012/11/15/the-obamacare-revolt-oklahoma-doctors-fi

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      I remember posting about this in 2010 and 2011. I forget which threads they were, but it was a good idea at the time. I’ll ask Sook Young if she could bring the idea to Elkhart General’s administration. I doubt if they’ll do it. Here are some articles about Obama bin Laden the pretender.
      http://www.publicadvocateusa.org/news/article.php?article=8777
      http://www.thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/316023-obama-marks-end-of-ramadan-with-more-syrian-aid#ixzz2bOM4Qll4
      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “This law of nature, being co-eval with mankind and dictated by God Himself, is of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times: no human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; upon these two foundations, the law of nature and the law of revelation, depend all human laws; that is to say, no human law should be suffered (permitted) to contradict these.”
      William Blackstone
      English Jurist
      1723 – 1780

  • SoCal88

    Best to leave Obamacare alone. Only in this way can it reach its full potential – a festering boil on the ass of the Democrat Party.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Force Recon, the smilee’s problem is that he is overdosed with the DEMONcratic medication and gratis (free) Viagra (for which you and I are paying).

    Also his libtardeness can be explained as the long-term side effects caused by the very toxic Liberal Vaccination/Indoctrination/Brainwashing against KNOWLEDGE, REALITY and COMMON SENSE – TRUTH.

    People vaccinated against Common Sense since 1960’s might well have subsequently suffer very devastating side effects on brain, neurological and immune systems, which led to the mental and neurodevelopmental disorders such as developmental delays, LDD (Liberal Dyslexia Disorder), attention deficit syndrome, speech disorders (it explains that they can’t speak without teleprompter and write without DEMONcrats’ talking points by using “Rules for Radicals” by their apostle Luciferian Saul Alinsky)

    The typical side effects include problems with honesty, judgment, common sense, balance, logic, reasoning, memory, expertise, proficiency, direction and concentration.

    Symptoms are: total ignorance, arrogance, dishonesty, stupidity, disjointedness, idiocy, hypocrisy, amnesia, absurdity, madness, senselessness, ridiculousness,
    incoherence, illogicality.

    Symptoms can last for months, years, decades and/or even for the lifetime.

    You can recognize the suffering victims by their totally deranged face expression and unbalanced, instable, demanding, crazy and pervert behavior.

    Just look at O’Homobama, Muchelle, both Clintons, both Weiners, Nancy Pelosi, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Howard Dean, Chuck Schumer, Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Maxine Waters, etc.

    On this Website: smilee, Mizz Karolyn, boob666, Ron r, NC aka NutCase, KG, Robbie, Dave, Jeffry … List goes on and on and on. You are free to add to it.

    Some side effects include a CONCUSSION. It can be subtle and may not be immediately apparent. But it can be apparent sooner in the case to justify “AMNESIA” and “CONFUSION”. (I hope you remember the last victim of such “CONCUSSION” with “AMNESIA” and “CONFUSION”. Yes, you right, sir. That was the ex-secretary of state and the candidate for the presidency for 2016 – Hillary)

    It has been reported in the scientific/political/medical literature that MALES are affected much more than FEMALES. (Sorry MALES. I am not man-hater. The information came from the scientific research reports)

    P.S. Dear Force Recon, as you can see the vaccine against COMMON SENSE is very, very, veeeeery dangerous, with devastating side effects for whole humanity. And despite the serious side effects DEMONcrats/ Luciferians are continuing the vaccinations at the large-scale. We have to strenghthen the immune system of our children and grandchildren with the anti-Libtardic vaccination, which is the TRUTH.

    “Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore PUT ON THE FULL ARMOR OF God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the BELT OF TRUTH buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God.” (Eph.6:10-17)

    • Katrael

      Well, some may have been given a vaccine that caused this phenomenon you write about. There may be another cause: to much fluoride consumption. The Nazis and Russians used fluoride to make the population more susceptible to authoritarian indoctrination that had it origins in the public schools in the 1800’s

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Now it may be fluoride in the water, but it could also be many people are sheeple and they do not posses the knowledge needed to vote. Here is an article showing how we should hold Obama bin Laden accountable for the Benghazi massacre. And the person is right, we should.
        http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/rand-paul-hillary-benghazi/2013/08/07/id/519270
        Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “I enter on the trust to which I have been called by the suffrages of my fellow citizens with my fervent prayers to the Almighty that He will be graciously pleased to continue to us that protection which He has already so conspicuously displayed in our favor.”
        James Madison
        March 04, 1817
        Devout Christian

        • Katrael

          samurai. mo doubt about it: the great majority of people are sheeple. I also agree that the sheeple lack knowledge which I believe is due to many factors:
          misinformation taught to them in public schools
          greed
          lovers of self
          drugs which includes: fluoride, alcohol, prescription meds and illegal drugs.

          I’ve probably left out a myriad of other reasons but these seem to jump out the most.

    • Vis Fac

      What you have mentioned ignorance, arrogance, dishonesty, stupidity, disjointedness, idiocy, hypocrisy, amnesia, absurdity, madness, senselessness, ridiculousness, incoherence, illogicality. are not symptoms by maladies as a result of subscribing to liberal one dimensional idiot-ology. To say these people are brainwashed is a misnomer for to be brainwashed one must first have a brain to work with. We all know there are no brains in the liberal camp.

      Pavlov’s dog’s mouth watered when a bell was rung which was a conditioned reflex. Liberals too have this conditioned reflex on April 15th and any other time they have a chance to put their hands in someone else’s pocket. They salivate at the prospect of enacting more inactive laws so they can sidestep providing real solutions to real problems. The old DC two-step if you will.

      I would prefer to not look at O’Homobama, Muchelle, both Clintons, both Weiners, Nancy Piglosi, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Howard Dean, Chuck Schumer, Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Maxine Waters, as these morons are not worth the energy to or time thinking about. I would just as soon stare into Medusa’s eyes. But why stop there? There are plenty of congresspeople who aren’t worth the plane ticket home. The only thing of Value in DC are the monuments and the Smithsonian, the rest can be razed as far as I’m concerned.
      Semper-Fi

      • John

        1991 the iron curtain came down and thousands of propagandist and psychologist were out of work and the leftist newspapers and TV stations across the country hired them. They had 70 years of experience and results to show what worked and what didn’t work. Brainwash first then reprogram. That is what the liberal media has done to create LDD. It works and that is why you get the responses that you do. Ovomit uses his lies to bolster the propaganda and to reinforce the reprogramming.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        I respectfully disagree with you, sir.

        Liberal camp has brain. They have a COLLECTIVE two-cell, twisted into the pretzel, Silicone brain, with Botox instead of the Grey Matter. Therefore they can’t process the reality and just collectively parroting their nonsensical mantras (talking points)

        Doesn’t their leader preach the “COLLECTIVE SALVATION” and dreaming for the “collective” censorship? Oh, and leads us into the COLLECTIVE POVERTY.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLgHlYjJvXk

        The ignoramus sheeple do not know what Scripture says:
        “They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.” – Jesus Christ (Matthew 15:13-14)

        They just fallow their Mentally PERVERT and Sexually DEPRAVED Ill-advised leader.

        “The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.” (Ezekiel 18:20)

        “Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” – Jesus Christ (Matthew 17:18)

        “Nothing is covered up that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known.” – Jesus Christ (Luke 12:1-2)

        “Each of us shall give an account of himself to God.” (Romans 14:12)

        “For God will bring every deed into judgment, with every secret thing, whether good or evil.” (Eccl.12:14)

        “…Father, Who judges impartially according to each to every man’s deeds…” (1Pt.1:17)

        “The Lord shall reward the doer of evil ACCORDING TO HIS WICKEDNESS.” (2Sam.3:39)

        Enough and clear said.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        I hear you. It is amazing how there are so many less intelligent individuals in our government these days. I call them the 5th column, along with certain less intelligent posters on this site. You know, smilee and others. Here are 2 artciles about Obama bin Laden, his administration, and Benghazi.
        http://www.westernjournalism.com/cnn-obama-admins-benghazi-claims-inconsistant-and-inaccurate/
        http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-treason-in-benghazi/
        Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “Especially the Bible should be placed in the hands of the young. It is the best schoolbook in the world. I would that all of our people were brought up under the influence of that Holy Book.”
        Zachary Taylor
        American General
        12th President of the U.S.

  • KILLERB

    ALONDRA -THIS IS GREAT NEWS.

    WARRIOR YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT. I THINK THE LOW-INFORMED PUT THESE PEOPLE IN OFFICE. IS IT POSSIBLE TO REQUIRE KNOWLEDGE OF THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS PRINTED N ENGLISH BEFORE THEY CAN VOTE? I BETTER BE CAUTIOS AND WATCH OUT FOR THE LIBERALS WHO WILL SCREAM DISCRMINATION. SOME PEOPLE THINK ONLY OF THE GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES THEY GET WITH THE DEMS..

  • TIME

    Dear People,
    Just look at how well “Medicaid” has worked out, now think O’Bama care is even more special! Oh and what about that special Social Security, how’s that doing again, oh yea its no longer in a Lock Box as Clinton loved to tell you.
    Its belly UP Baby.
    Now ~ Ask yourself this question:
    { Just when was it that the criminals in the City State of the District of Columbia have done anything that has been of any benefit to the American Middle class working people?}
    And the answer is,,,,,, Oh yea; that’s right, never!
    Who Still think that the 2014 elections will be of any benefit to the American Working Middle class?
    Or should you wait until say 2099?

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Well said! Well said! What about the $500 million he is taking out of Medicare for Obama bin Laden Care? These are just programs we do not need and should be cut. Here is an article showing how America is becoming like the nations we condemn.
      http://www.youngpatriots.com/2013/08/why-america-is-just-like-the-nations-we-condemn/
      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “A watchful eye must be kept on ourselves lest, while we are building ideal monuments of renown and bliss here, we neglect to have our names enrolled in the annals of heaven.”
      James Madison
      Letters and Other Writings of James Madison
      New York: R. Worthington, 1884, Vol. 1, pp. 5 – 6,
      to William Bradford on November 09, 1772
      Devout Christian

      • smilee

        Medicare has more coverages now under Obamacare so nothing was taken out of Medicare Benefits. He found coat savings of $800 billion not 500 million over ten years without any loss to seniors and actually added benefits to Medicare. I see you are up to your lying ways again. Of course you have never read the law.

  • ChuckS123

    A few years ago, a jeopardy clue was “This is the city where President Obama was born.” They wrongly said “Where is Honolulu?” instead of Nairobi.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      True that! True that! Here is a video about how Jay Leno tore apart Obama bin Laden as he was waiting backstage.
      http://www.politichicks.tv/2013/08/jay-leno-rips-obama-as-he-waits-off-stage-how-about-solving-the-problems-that-brought-our-country-to-a-halt-video/
      This is a classic butt kicking of Obama bin Laden. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “The real wonder is that so many difficulties should have been surmounted. It is impossible for the man of pious reflection not to perceive in it a finger of that Almighty Hand which has been so frequently and signally extended to our relief.”
      James Madison
      Member of the Constitutional Convention
      “Father of the Constitution”
      4th President of the U.S.
      Devout Christian

  • Nadzieja Batki

    Since the predominant comments have been about Ocare, let’s see if any commenters remember watching old movies or new movies showing people being taken to the hospitals or seeing doctors. Have any of the subjects of those movies been shown in angst over the hospital’s or doctor’s bills, apparently all heroic efforts, all medical care were given as freebies. The American people were being programmed that all was their due. No one was told that someone had to buy all equipment, all the buildings, the staff needed to be paid because no one could work for free, the bandages and needles and medicines had to have someone make and then sell and be bought. All the ambulances had to be bought and staffed and stocked and maintained.
    People were not told of the real COST of the freebies. Now the reality is front and center and the populace doesn’t like the reality.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Here is some news. It seems that Rand Paul has been endorsed for 2016 by Sarah Palin.
      http://www.townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2013/08/11/sarah-palin-im-on-team-rand-n1661440
      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of contry and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “For the wicked shall not rule the godly, lest the godly be forced to do wrong.”
      Psalms 125:3

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Nadzieja Batki, above was your comment addressed to me.
      But strange thing happened. When I clicked on the “Post” button, your name disappeared and on the place of your name appeared “c”. Check by yourself.

      Do you have any explanation for this phenomenon?