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Obama Threatens Legal Action Against BP

June 4, 2010 by  

Obama threatens legal action against BPPresident Obama reiterated on Tuesday the administration’s commitment to determine the cause of last month’s oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, referring to the crisis as "the greatest environmental disaster of its kind in our [nation's] history." Obama also vowed to bring to justice anyone who may have committed a crime by contributing to the spill.

"If our laws were broken leading to this death and destruction, my solemn pledge is that we will bring those responsible to justice on behalf of the victims of this catastrophe and the people of the Gulf region," he said.

Meanwhile, Obama suggested that insufficient regulation may have been partially responsible for the disaster, and that stronger government oversight may be necessary in the future, according to The New York Times.

The president has directed an independent commission to explore what caused the spill, and what role the Federal government should play in helping to prevent a recurrence of the tragedy. The news conference came just three days after BP announced that its latest efforts to stop the spill had failed.

Obama, who has been outspokenly critical of the oil giant’s response to the disaster, said the news was "as enraging as it is heartbreaking."
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  • JeffH

    BP deserves what they get, but the O-man better look in his own backyard and put his boot on the neck of the agencies responsible for all of the safety inspections. As usual, this administration through lack of leareship, dropped the ball from the very beginning. I’d also like to kmow “WHY” there was a blowup and “what” was the cause. Everything being reported has been sheer speculation.

    • Claire

      JeffH– Whenever something catastrophic happens, there is always a commission appointed to come up with the “cause.” Just like the JFK incident and others, we will be lucky if we are told the real truth. All administrations have told us what they want us to hear. They are not going to blame themselves. After all, they have to think about votes. And I say this sarcastically.
      However, offshore drilling is nothing to “fool around” with. It should only be conducted with the proper equipment, maintenance, safety, and the technology to be able to prevent/control a disaster like we are facing now. This is what I firmly believe. Nothing should be conducted on a half-cocked mentality.
      There needs to be regulation NOT deregulation. Plus the safety inspectors apparently weren’t doing their job either. The same old “scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours” game.
      Our government was slow to react to Katrina and slow to react to this oil spill. Bush did not “cause” Katrina and neither did Obama “cause” this oil spill. As I said in another post, our government needs to shape up and do the job they were elected to do. No more fooling around. No more game-playing politics. All of them have “dropped the ball” and expected someone else to handle the situation.
      Now we are facing one of the worst tragedies with no end in sight. I pray to God that something can be done to stop this horrible oil leak. It is close to Florida now and the devastation to the economy in these states is horrendous. Not to mention what is happening to the ocean and marine life. It is shameful.
      I have a message to all politicians that have and are still accepting money from oil companies— You reap what you sow.

      • GREG

        BRAVO!!! You hit the nail directly on the head!

      • coal miner

        Clair,

        They may do the reaping,guess who pays for it,we do.

      • coal miner

        Clair,

        We the american people pays for it.

        • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

          We The People always pay… American or not.. but it’s no accident, or incompetent politicians. The politicians are doing exactly what their masters with the money dictate… subtly or not so subtly. Even that wild and whacky Sarah Palen who may not actually even have a clue to the powers that truly run this country. The others talk about change but they’re not ready to step in front of the bullet. They just whip up foment against powerless scapegoats and make sure they never come close to stepping on the toes of the really big boys.

          • Claire

            Duende–To me, politicians are incompetent when they do what the masters of money dictate. None of them want to step in front of the bullet, they wouldn’t get elected nor re-elected. The masters of money would not and will not allow it if the politicians did not do their “bidding.” The political system is a sham.

          • JeffH

            Duende, I couldn’t agree more…very true I’m sure.

          • SiliconDoc

            All this talk about the money masters, but one fact surely is BP is connected to “the secret unnamed money masters” just as much as congress is.
            I watched the congressional hours on the FED bailout and Geithner and all the rest – Bernanke and “if we tell you who got the trillions it will create a bank run panic, ‘George’ .”
            I’ve read and watched and devoured everything I can for years on Bilderberger, the NWO, the UN, and all the rest.
            It’s clear, stark ravingly absolutely clear that the banks and Wall Street and the countless trillions jostling about those entities are “the money masters” and it is also clear each and every congressperson HAS A PERSONAL ASSET they are concerned iwth every single time they cast any votes in the matter, let alone “bribery from K Street”.
            We HAVE the list of billionaires in the world, we have the Corporations numbers and values – very little is absolutely hidden… worldwide money numbers are known, the big players are known, it’s NOT A SECRET ANYMORE – the internet has EXPLODED the lack of widespread knowledge.
            When the Congress votes on matters pertaining to the stock markets/ Wall Street, they have plenty of personal interests, friends and family, government pension funds, worldwide power and influence, massive budget borrowing, and all the other general concerns that come with the territory – they don’t NEED any “big players” stuffing their pockets for them to SCREW IT ALL UP in their own fear and greed and power nightmare…
            See, that’s the very, very sad part…
            Even if by some miracle the dark evil secret gigantic money powers are explosed and crushed, we still have the fat piglet congrersscritters and their endless personal interests far removed from bribes and those shenanigans to overcome – or rather THEY DO.
            What does a demolibidiot congrocritter piece of crap do when confronted with a vote on making loans to the “poor” for three hundred thousand dollar plus homes ? (Nancy recently wanted it upped to 450k or so) We know what they do. Politics and their demo lib slaved post modern progressive propaganda prize dictates the answer before a DIME exchanges hands.
            The problem isn’t just secretive and diabolical world control money monsters pushing around the corrupt critters on the floor of the houses.

          • Hugh Jordin

            Duende-

            You are so right. The real powers that run this country and much of the world are those whose names you never hear, live in fabulous but secluded places, and reap fortunes from the suffering of others.

            Politicians are like actors in a movie. When the actor says something brilliant the audience reacts thing how smart the actor is when actually the actor can be a complete dullard and the words were written by someone the audience never sees or thinks about. How the actor delivers the words are determined by the director… another person the audience never sees. The public is like the audience at a movie… we see the actors but not the driving forces behind them.

            When one gets to know a lot of actors one realizes that there are some that are brilliant, dedicated artists with high integrity, there are others that DNA has blessed with a “look” that works but otherwise have little to offer intellectually or morally. All serve the script.

            Politicians are no different, they just perform in a different type of theatre on a different stage. There are some brilliant men and women of great integrity and some absolute bozos who have been “handled” in such a way as to win an election because they have a marketable “look”.

            Consider how many singers are very beautiful (seen many ugly ones lately despite their talent?). Many, without pitch correction, great sound enhancement, and hot choreography would have any careers at all.

            So beware of becoming followers of any politician, right or left, because you are following an illusion.

            We conservatives are especially in danger as the conservative message is being usurped by shallow intellects who make good media images, such as our recent vice presidential candidate, who is no more qualified to lead our great nation than she is to be dog catcher.

            We must see through the garbage being spilled on us by the back room handlers and seek REAL leadership that can move our country in the right direction and preserve what is great about it while adapting to the real challenges that face us and not be distracted by the artificial ones blown way out of proportion by the real powers so they can be free to pursue their own hidden agendas.

        • Claire

          coal miner– Agreed, we always do.

        • JeffH

          coal miner, so true…agreed.

          • Alan

            High Steel Worker (build and maintain Power Plants) AGREE

      • Gary

        Clair,

        You are right about needing regulation. I don’t know of anyone asking for deregulation. You are absolutely right that someone wasn’t doing their job. That would be the MMS, a division of the US GOVERNMENT.
        Offshore drilling is safer now than it has ever been. Countless wells have been successfully and safely drilled in the deepwater Gulf of Mexico many of which were in deeper water than this one. The MMS is responsible for inspections on ALL rigs working in the Gulf to insure that every one of them is doing what it is supposed to do. This is a failure of another government agency to do what it is supposed to do. What makes absolutely no sense is to stop all drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
        That is exactly what our President has done. It doesn’t take a genius to see what that is going to do to the economy of not only Louisiana and other Gulf states not to mention other parts of the country that depend on the oil and gas produced in the Gulf. There are many thousands of people who make their living in the Gulf. The moratoriums placed on drilling will cost these people their jobs. That is just what we need with the economy in the condition it is.
        To shut down all deepwater drilling is an

        • Claire

          Gary—offshore drilling is fine, BUT HAVE the technology to prevent a mess like we have now. This mess has already created ecomomic havoc for these gulf states.

          • Gary

            Clair,

            The technology is in place. That is why we don’t have this kind of thing happening more often. The problem is the human factor. Clearly the people involved in this tragedy including MMS, were neglegent in some way. The technology is already there.
            The spill has shut down the seafood industry as well as charter fishing in some areas. Why add insult to injury by arbitrarily shutting down all drilling particularly when the people making that decision are not competent in that field.

          • Claire

            Gary–Okay, then the “human factor” needs to shape up or get out. If they cannot do their job like they should, they have no business doing this type of work. I believe in workhorse ethics, not showhorse ethics. They are many aspects in a number of jobs that requires concentration and good sound work ethics. I do not believe in half-ass workmanship.

          • Claire

            Gary—Sorry, but if the technology was in place, why haven’t they stopped the leak— because they do not have the proper equipment to stop the leak.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Claire,
            According to what I have seen on all the news reports, including BBC, the operators had been using salt water instead of drilling sludge to drill and that caused friction.Of course the sludge is more expensive.

          • Claire

            JoeH–This disastrous oil spill and they are still cutting corners? According to what you say they should have used sludge.

        • JeffH

          …three words, “Cap and Tax”…Obama has already started the push…once again, never let a crisis go to waste…utterly despicable!

          • Claire

            JeffH–Politicians always use a crisis to further their gain. It never ceases to amaze me of the unmitigated gall to use misfortune or misery to seek their goals.

        • NorthSlope

          Technology has improved over the years and offshore drilling is safer and more reliable. But why to oil companies have to go farther offshore and in deeper water? Because the government and environmental groups whom they cater to has forced them to. We have plently of onshore areas that could be developed. I work on Alaska’s north slope. There is enough potential in Alaska alone to significantly contribute to America’s oil requirements.

      • Dave

        I agree with you Claire. I think this is an issue that people on the right and left can agree on. I will say my only caution to Jeff is blaming the Obama administration for the lapse in regulation would be sketchy. All of the licensing for this occurred during the previous administration or just a couple of months into the new one. I think we all know who the biggest supporter of the oil industry and Haliburton was, and still is.

        • Claire

          Dave–Yes, and Halliburton has donated huge sums of money to Republicans since this oil spill happened and you know what that means. However, the Democrats receive their share too. It is another ploy.

        • JeffH

          Dave, licensing smicensing…monthly safety inspections were not held on Obama’s watch and it was the OBAMA ADMIN THAT GAVE THE RIG A ‘SAFETY AWARD’ LAST YEAR, not any other administration…with that I say to you, check your facts first.

          From: Sun May 16, Justin Pritchard, Associated Press
          AP investigations have shown that the doomed rig was allowed to operate without safety documentation required by MMS regulations for the exact disaster scenario that occurred; that the cutoff valve which failed has repeatedly broken down at other wells in the years since regulators weakened testing requirements; and that regulation is so lax that some key safety aspects on rigs are decided almost entirely by the companies doing the work.

          The job falls to the 55 inspectors in the Gulf who are supposed to visit the 90 drilling rigs once per month and the approximately 3,500 oil production platforms once per year.

          The Deepwater Horizon’s inspection frequency numbers struck Kenneth Arnold, a veteran offshore drilling consultant and engineer.
          “I’d certainly question it,” he said. “I’d ask, ‘Why aren’t you doing it?’”
          http://randysright.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/obama-admin-gave-rig-safety-award-last-year/

          • JeffH

            Please note, I’m not absolving BP in any way…the blame lies with both BP and the “government’s” irresponsibility in #1-lack of pro-reaction to the disaster and #2-irresponsible inspections and #3-BP all of the above

        • JeffH

          Claire, I keep hearing about the Haliburton donations to the GOP but can’t find any information. I know that Soros has a vested interest in Haliburton stocks.

          “The latest move by globe trotting, hyper-liberal billionaire George Soros borders on being too much…. Soros, of course, is the dean of Democratic money giving. And Halliburton, of course, is the company that embodies everything the Democrats see as evil. Dick Cheney is its former chief, for goodness’ sake.”
          George Soros bought 1.9 million shares of Halliburton stock to the tune of $62.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2006, the same Soros that gave more than $20 million to “527″ organizations in the 2004 election, many of which used anti-Halliburton bashing as a rallying cry for the anti-war Left.

          • eddie47d

            You would have found information but it was too easy to go after Soros. Now that’s okay but you get way to one sided. In 2002 Haliburton gave $ 240,000 to the Republican Party. In 2006 13 million to various campaigns.In 2010 they gave to 13 Republicans and 1 democrat. Now that doesn’t bother me as much as the other information . In 1998 Haliburton had 9 tax havens in the Grand Caimans by 1999 they had 44.One was even used to get around sanctions on Iran in 2000. Real patriotic bunch. Haliburtons taxes in 1998 were $302 million by 1999 they got a $85 million rebate. Those tax havens sure came in handy. In 2003 they paid 2.4 mil in bribes to Nigerian officials to get an even bigger tax break in the USA. When Dick Cheney became Vice-President he said he severed all ties with Haliburton (except stock options),yet he lied and kept getting $150,000 per year. In Dec. 2003 Haliburton over charged us Americans $61 mil. in gas prices. In 2004 they again paid 180 mil in bribes to Nigerian officials to get a gas plant contract. Nigeria is still #1 in internet and mail fraud. So why does Haliburton keep allowing themselves to be bribed by this nation? They evade taxes again in 2004 and paid only $15mil out of a $12.5 billion profit. Then they go and bribe more Nigerian officials for another $1.4 mil. What a racket! It’s no wonder their is so much violence and unrest in Nigeria. Their citizens must really take it in the shorts. Also in 2004 Haliburton over charged us tax payers $27 mil. There’s more on other sights but you get the picture.

          • JeffH

            fast eddie…there you go again, not reading and comprehending in your haste to disprove my comment.

            Now the point of Claire’s comment was what she said, and I’ll quote:
            “…Halliburton has donated huge sums of money to Republicans since this oil spill happened…”
            I stated that I couldn’t find, through my searches, any info about “donations” since the oil rig blowup, and I also, in my best rightwing way pointed out the Soros connection to Haliburton.

            So I say to you, chew on your foot a little longer…it must taste good to you as often as you stick it in your mouth!

          • Claire

            JeffH–The oil companies have donated to the liberals and the Republicans. This is exactly why these parties tend to give the oil companies a “free pass.” Do you agree?

      • JeffH

        Claire, you’ve pretty much said what most of us think…Yes, we’ll never know the “real” truth and never will.

        • eddie47d

          Sorry Jeff, Those 2010 donations were in May right after the Horizon incident. I know ignorance is bliss but I didn’t want to rub it in in my last post. I should know by now that you always try to bite a person back with snide remarks.

          • JeffH

            fast eddie…what donations after May? Show me the links if you can find them because I haven’t and I’ve tried. All you showed was what most already knew, Haliburton donations from past years prior to 2010. But again, you’ve provided no sources other than your word. Now try as you may, you’ve still said nothing new and proved even less. So puff up your chest and walk tall knowing that you put no one in their place. It’s all there to be seen…keep your snippets coming, and don’t take everything so personal.

      • American Liberal

        Claire… Agreed…these drilling rigs need very strict regulations .. We can’t just leave it to big oil or Wallstreet to be honest, as we’ve painfully seen…and yes… I also agree that right this minute BP is figuring out a way to make us pay it…it may just be s penny here and a penny there but they’ll get the cash outta us..never fails

    • Brian

      Asking “WHY” there was a blowup and “what” was the cause is like NASA asking the same about a Mars probe which failed.
      It is so far away in such a hostile place we cannot know.
      The same goes for this method of oil exploration.
      If we were smart and drilled for oil on dry land we would know what happened by now.
      This well is a mile down in near freezing sea water.
      We have a president who looked for answers from a movie director.
      That pretty much sums up this guy’s abilities.

    • http://gtanner_1@yahoo.com Gary Tanner

      Jeff H. Has it right. This Big O is a walking incompetent disaster himself. His lack of leadership is glaring.

      ps.

      To Obama. The oil spill was caused by an unfortunate explosion and fire.

      That happens sometimes in oil rigs. Had this been allowed to be in anwar ON LAND the spill would have been contained and corrected already without the environmental calamity we are witnessing now. All this Administration can do is point fingers and put together meaningless commissions.

    • http://Yahoo LarryT

      A good reason might be sabatage. All the electical swithes on a shut off valve not working at the same time? Come on now, just how stupid do they realy think people are?

    • WarriorH

      Of course, the answer is always that we need more regulations. We must give more authority to the bureaucreatures and their patonage armies. Doesn’t matter if they do not perform their jobs now. It’s just so much more interesting viewing porn.

  • Shaker

    Transparency, Eh!………from a Black Arseh……….? good Luck !

    • Claire

      Shaker–Americans do not receive transparency from any administration.

    • Dave

      Claire, you’re right again, there is never real transparency. The corporations are too powerful. Why, in this context, would you havet o go using a name like Black Arseh?

      • Claire

        Dave–I did not use the black terminology, Shaker did. Another round of racism. Racism is still alive in America. No way around it. I find it disgusting.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest cornfuscious

    Didn’t the administration say that they were in charge of what BP was doing, and took full responsibility????

    • Claire

      Yes, the administration said they were in charge. However, it takes two to tango and neither have any solutions.

      • Vicki

        being “in charge” is not a dance.

        • Claire

          Vicki–I am fully aware that “being in charge” is not a dance. You know exactly what I meant-it takes both (the two of them, the administration and BP) to work things out and come up with a solution.

          • Vicki

            You can not have 2 leaders and you can not have 2 masters. Either BP must take the lead or the Obama Admin must. Obama claims to have taken the lead and BP has publicly stated that they do what Obama’s admin authorizes (allows).

            Now I don’t know much about Oil wells and spills and controls but I do know that BP has MUCH more to lose then Obama’s administration does. BP has MUCH more experience in Oil exploration than Obama’s administration does.

            BP is the one who should be running the operation. BP has the strongest incentive to stop the leak. BP is the one who will have to pay the financial costs. BP is the one who is loosing millions of dollars in product every day. Obama could be useful by having his admin assist BP instead of controlling them. Obama could be useful by asking for independent investigation of what caused the accident instead of foolishly claiming they will “get” those responsible.

            Besides, sometimes accidents do happen.

          • Claire

            Personally, I do not think it is a matter of having 2 leaders or 2 masters in some cases. What is wrong with working together to solve any problem? However, in view of the fact Obama has said he is now in charge, then he should have made the arrangements to have equipment and the necessary strategies to stop the leak as soon as possible. This is debatable since I don’t think politicians are oil men. In my opinion he waited too long to provide any input to the situation.
            The big tankers that suck up the oil should have been brought in immediately and they weren’t.
            Yes, BP has a lot to lose, and I realize they have “experience” but this experience should also include the proper equipment and wherewithal to stop this leak. They apparently did not have the proper equipment or this would have been taken care of by now. Preparation is the key since accidents do happen and they will happen. I am a believer in an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. If we do offshore drilling, then be prepared. We have the technology but we should have the proper equipment/maintenance in the event of an accident.
            I believe Obama sent Holder down there. It will be interesting to see what happens with this aspect. Is it for investigation or possible lawsuit. I have not heard any news concerning Holder’s trip to the gulf. I haven’t watched the news today.
            The devastation from this oil spill will last for years. I am truly concerned about the economy of these gulf states, the fishermen, the destruction of the wetlands, the ocean and the marine life. We will all be paying for this in one way or another.
            To me, they are both at fault. BP should have been prepared and Obama should have stepped up to the plate to offer aid the minute this oil spill happened.

    • Don

      Yep. The administration was all over the news saying they were in charge and BP was taking direction from them. The administration said nothing was happening that they didn’t approve or direct. So I’m confused. Why is the White House considering legal action against BP who is supposedly just following the the President’s and “All the President’s Mens’” direction.

  • Marilyn

    Obama said he was taking full responsibility. Well, he has done that and with the ban on all deep water drilling all around the US. Not only was BP neglegent. The United States agency that should be overseeing such drilling practices is not doing their job.

    The most important issue is not blaming each other but devoting that energy to work together and get the oil mess under control.

    Talk is cheap. Action is the answer.

    • Claire

      Marilyn–I agree with what you posted. Talk is cheap. Actions speak louder than words.

  • Brian

    The response needs to be the realization that pushing oil exploration to more hostile places is not the way to energy independence.
    Fossil fuels (oil and coal) are the proven energy sources in this country.
    Stop using taxpayer money pandering to wealthy elitists with their boutique energy gimmicks.
    Press the environmentalists to spend their money in bringing to market what they think are the better energy sources.

  • Norm

    BP avoided and eluded all resonable safety procedures. There is no excuse for their actions. In my mind this event is not unlike a terrorist attack.
    The young Baffoon CEO is the most arrogant, uncaring, overpaid phoney I’ve heard in a long time. When asked if BP was going to pay the 10 billion in dividends he said that the stockholders deserve their due. He was also upset that his life was not going smoothly these days.
    The man and his company managment are criminals and should be dealt with in the courts.

    • s c

      Normy, since you’re concerned with criminals being tried in court, when will Herr Obummer be taken to court? Your false god, Herr Obummer, will get his turn in ‘the monkey barrel,’ too.
      Thanks for expanding my vocabulary. I couldn’t find “baffoon” in my non-progressive dictionary. If you meant ‘buffoon,’ that’s another matter. One of the prime definitions of a buffoon is someone who thinks of Herr Obummer as an infallible god or a fifth-rate, standup comedian (like Al ‘ha ha’ Franken).
      And remember to take public education to court. You keep proving that it’s another classic, progressive failure.

      • Norm

        s c
        Can I take that as a job well done for BP from you?
        I’m not at at all surprised you know how to spell bufoon. I bet you can spell A–Hole as well since you “is” one.

        • Norm

          Oops sorry I meant buffoon, actually I meant SC.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            normie,
            the only one on here that acts like the north end of a south-bound donkey is you!!!

  • Nadia

    Is there something more to this threat of a lawsuit than meets the eye?
    Why doesn’t he focus on the problem which is the oil spillage in the gulf and try to get the brightest and best scientists to collaborate on a strategy. Why didn’t he respond to the La Governor and immediately start to build the booms to stop the oil from reaching shore and deal with how to circumvent an economic disaster. Instead he summons holder and some of his flunkies to find a reason to sue BP.
    Instead of dealing with this crisis, he is instead partying with Paul McCartney,golfing,attending press banquets, going on vacation, which by the way when he wanted to push obamacare he cancelled his vacation to Indonesia, and placing moratoriums on oil drilling, which will further destroy the economy. What is wrong with this man’s priorities? Does he understand what it means to lead?

    This white house occupant is inept at best and for the good of the country should resign and take his czars with him.
    Nadia

    • Dan Burke

      Let me see. I am not into conspiracy theory. However, I do believe that there are personal and political interests to consider.

      As much as the environmentalists decry this oil catastrophe, do they good photographic evidence that the oil spill is bad for the environment if it had been stopped early and effectively? No, they would have had to search harder where right now they could probably take an easy stroll and show how it is reaching fragile habitats. So as much as they decry the spill, the damages it has done and will continue to do will make this something far harder for Americans to ignore than if it had been kept under control…. So while it is bad for the animals, plants, and our businesses, this is great for the activists. This is another reason why they shouldn’t deploy any method that might actually work. If we deploy something that works, then we will believe that we can drill and clean up the possible messes. On the other hand, if we fail to deploy anything that might work then we can show how we shouldn’t use oil at all. Note: I think I saw Kevin Costner promoting something that had some potential but after that presentation video I haven’t heard any news about it since. Plus, there was the delay to use firebooms early on, which might have drastically reduced the damages…. and the list goes on. I mean, some of this other technology I have read about and seen may not have worked any better, but the whole mess seems to reek of either incompentence or willful negligence.

      And if by chance our administration is full of marxist, communists and others that believe it would be better for government to run the economy, plus we have an unpopular energy bill in progress, so government has an interest in oil being seen as the culprit of a disaster. So while the accident is probably in part the fault of all sorts of government and BP negligence and collusion beforehand to bypass proper safety protocols, the continued disaster is politically advantageous for congress and the President. So, again, plants, animals, and businesses will suffer for political gains. Now we can justify further going down the path to fascism or communism or another ism that puts business under the thumb of government. This time, instead of the environmentalists gaining public opinion from this catastrophe, now it is the progressive party with their ideas that government knows best how to run a business.

      And the list could probably go on about all those who verbally claim to care, and many do believe their own words, but it is in reality to their advantage to have this disaster. As far myself, I am a capitalist. If we really let capitalism solve this problem, would there have been an investor who would have funded a mass production of Kevin Costner’s device to separate oil from water if they believed that they could actually turn around and sell the oil for a profit? But this a catastrophe with government just waiting to criminalize anyone they can so why would anyone step in a fix the problem and make a profit too? If they were to step in, fix it, and make it a profit then they would also have the smarts to project the future beforehand and know that the media would criminalize them, the government would back that view and strip away all their profits and probably fine them on top of that too.

    • WarriorH

      Because that’s what lawyers are trained for – Lawsuits!

  • s c

    People, get this straight. THE meanest, foulest, back-stabbing son-of-a-b@#^* on our block [UNCLE SCAM] knows how to point fingers, but he NEVER takes the heat or the blame for ANYTHING. Even at this moment, the new King of Corporatism, Herr Obummer, wants to suck to BP and FINE them at the same time. WHAT A RACKET! The least the Justice Department could do (if they had any integrity) would be to indict and arrest Herr Obummer and his treasonous pals via RICO statutes.
    Hypocrisy reigns supreme in Washington. Herr Obummer is doing so many things wrong at the same time that it would take 50 AGs to do the job. Forget Holder. He sold himself long before Herr Obummer made Holder our Devil’s Advocate.
    Herr Obummer gives a damn about justice the same way Stalin and Mao cared about human rights, peace and ‘social justice.’ Rip off the mask, America.

    • WarriorH

      Maybe the real prize is taking over BP. A government run oil company. Now, wouldn’t that put us in good company with the likes of the socialist countries south of our border.

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    I wonder if the election is even held, if the Republicans will do what is right? What? Impeach the president and his Czars for Treason! He most definitely beats the Rosenburgs(sp) for sure!

  • http://gmail i41

    Any time you work with metal and equipment, there will be problems or failure of some type, if it is used long enough, and goes through severl repetitions. What the hell are we drilling in that deep of water for any way? Because the envior retards have stoppped drilling in 300′ deep water. There has been blow outs and failures at that dept, before, but it was contained and stopped. The reason we don’t drill on land, to easy and too simple, also alot of the oil inland is on private owned property. Now we have spent over 13 trillion into debt today, how is the hope and change going. When you have lawyers in charge and waiting around like a bunch of buzzards for a carcuss , nothing positive gets done, but push papers and dream!

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    P.S.: I understand that we have a couple of people in California who could have really helped fix this Gulf Oil mess immediately, but we have a Marxist machine to bring down the Republic! However, our Foreign(non-Israelite) President is too busy trying to destroy our Republic and acting fixing this mess! Can’t see the concern he would have with BP because they’re probably already led my Marxists, being a British company and all!

  • refuse2lose

    This is what you get for having two lawyers running the country.Between Obama and Holder both they couldn’t run a lemonade stand but the wise Americans have gave them the keys to an entire country.And their way of fixing the oil spill,which fit in perfectly with his “green energy”agenda is to sue anyone and everyone.He better find those lawyers who have been helping him hide all of his school records,he might need them.

  • Bud T

    As usual, Obama is playing the “blame game” to remove the focus on his inability to grasp anything. He and his cronies are certainly not going to let a good crisis go to waste. If he really had OUR country at heart, he would have offered whatever assistance, resources,etc. immediatley which might be available instead of searching for some non-existent criminal activity.

  • Jim H.

    I’m all for the people directly responsible for the accident having to face up to it. If it was negligence on the inspectors or short cuts by the company or both. I remember with the Enron case, how SOME auditors from Arthur Anderson were involved. In there hurry to make people pay, the whole company went down, causing good people who had nothing to do with it to lose there job. BP employs alot of people, who are good, hard working employee’s. Let’s not get carried away when extracting our pound of flesh, like we did with Enron. We need to figure what the costs of this mess really is and send the proper bill to BP. We also need to find the REAL culprits and make sure they are served justice.

    • eddie47d

      Amen!

    • Claire

      Jim H–Thank you. Logical and rational, that is what you are.

  • Dale

    Over 36,000 holes drill in the gulf with no problem. Why are they drilling 1 mile down? Cause the enviro-whacks don’t want them drilling in shallow water, or on land, or in Alaska. This disaster is once again the “Unintended Consequences” of poorly thought out lieberal policies. While countries like Norway are DEBT-FREE because they actually drill for gas and oil . . . the US is fast becoming Greece on Steroids.
    The Komander-in-chief is a rank amateur at all things govt . . . thinking people knew that 2 years ago.
    Did it ever occur to anyone that the enviro-whacks sabotaged this rig . . . I live in the NorthWest . . . have watched these loonies for decades do similar things.

    • Cathy

      “Did it ever occur to anyone that the enviro-whacks sabotaged this rig . . . I live in the NorthWest . . . have watched these loonies for decades do similar things.”

      YES…it occurred to me that SOMEONE caused this disaster. Maybe even our own government. (I put NOTHING past them.)

      • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

        Cathy, I was thinking the exact same thing! Unfortunately, it’s probably even more than probable and that’s tragic that we’ve come to this, isn’t it? That is how Marxists work, though!

      • eddie47d

        Another one dealing in conspiracies;you fit right in.

        • JC

          With all of the information out there…with all of the black ops that have been exposed…with all of the politicians caught being involved in illegalities…with all of the hard evidence of government collusion in immoral activities around the world…
          You can still paint everyone who doesn’t trust the government with the “conspiracy nut” brush?
          I’d have to say your completely out of touch with reality.

  • valricoslash

    I think he is pissing into the wind. He will have a very hard time proving that BP committed a crime. that would mean that they actually planned this event. What is criminal is the Obama adminstration inaction in the cleanup. The Feds don’t have the capability or the brains to figure out how to stop the leak, but they have plenty of manypower sitting on their fat government employed butts in Washington. I say start rotating them down to the gulf for cleanuup duty for periods of 2-4 weeks at a time. Send them down on military transports, and house them in tents (like our soldiers in afgahnastan, and feed the MREs. No deferrments–if you work for the Feds, then you must do cleanup. that includes all the big 6 figure incme folks including attornies, accountants, engineers, and general administrators.

  • Lucy

    Blame game will take its course regardless of whose fault it is. I just hope it focuses on Obama and exposes his incompetence.

    So we are 6 weeks in. Seems all consensuses knew the only one way to stop the oil, was to drill into existing line in several places to extract oil pressure from existing leakage. Then cut off that bad valve. Well to me that action should have started from day one. We would be 1 to 2 weeks out from stopping the oil flow. I am just a girl with no mechanical or engineering skills but I do have common sense which none of these idiots apparently have. Tap the existing line and cap the darn leak!

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      Lucy, the only problem is that Marxist seem to now control the House, Senate, Presidency and, are about the even control the Supreme court! And, America voted for it just to be politically correct, I presume?

      • Lucy

        Yup Victor I know one thing for sure I have no political correctness! My passion is to keep my freedom and to secure my future and the future of my children and grandchildren. No matter what the current administration throws at the American people we all have got to stand up together and be heard! I know I have learned one thing about political correctness, if you are in the presence of a Liberal or someone who is teetering on the fence to join the conservative party, do not say negative things about the “GREAT ONE” because it will only make them feel sorry for him and he will win their vote….that’s how these bleeding heart liberals are….this country has been ruined by sensitivity…sad huh?

    • eddie47d

      The oil leak in 1979 in the Gulf took 9mos. to fix so what’s your point. BP made a risky calculation by not installing the original shutoff switch on the Horizon so the ball is in their court. This means from here on out they better be doing it right. Can we trust these corporations to do the right thing? Maybe and maybe not so here comes government regulations so live with it.

  • http://InternetExplorer Elinor Schreiber

    Did I hear there was 3 leaks? I wonder if these wells were sabotoged.It was very clear that democrats DID NOT want oil drilling in U.S. If we get our oil from Sadi=Arabia we are helping the terrorist. Also jobs that Obama is creating are gov. jobs. Housing on Sec 8 are now being inspected 3 times per year instead of once. The obama health-care is to be managed by IRS and it will create gov.jobs.Banning the don’t ask don’t tell is creating more problems and wil weaken our militairy. Hitler did this and what happened to him? We are having out freedom taken away and the morals of our country will destroy us. We are living in a bad situation and the gov. IS NOT protecting our people. Feel bad for people in Arizona this SHOULD NOT be happening and the gov not backing the laws or the Americans. Thanks for letting me voice my opinion.

    • eddie47d

      This has nothing to do with Hitler but if it makes you feel better to say so knock youself out. Maybe a martian spaceship crashed into the well!

  • http://yahoo.com Sue C

    BP is not the real criminal, in this issue. A very rich Texan is responsible for the blast, the murder of those 11 men, and the disaster in the Gulf of Mexico.

    Those who are looking for/to BP, to resolve this problem, is not looking for the criminal who got the multiple murders/expanding disaster started in the first place. Get to the bottom of the real story. BP is still stunned, and completely overwhelmed by this horrible issue, while the real bastard is sitting in his comfortable sofa watching all parties go helter skelter, trying to find a solution to this gigantic problem.

    Just find him, and can the bastard!!!!! OK!!!!! Stop blaming BP for all this stuff. The redneck is enjoying this disaster with glee, in TEXAS!!!!! Where are all the experts on finding criminals????? You have got to use some genius here, or you will be canned.

    NOTE: Oil rigs have never been brought down before, except in inclement weather, such as in hurricanes/typhoons etc! THE CRIMINAL IS AN EXTREMELY RICH WHITE MAN, IN TEXAS!!! GO FOR IT GUYS!!!!!

    • JeffH

      …Who could this criminal be??? Not BP but B??? I bet.

    • Claire

      Sue C — Why post a comment like this if you are not going to give details? What is the point of posting comments like you did and then cut and run? Apparently your comments are not true. Who is this rich white Texan or are you just spinning your wheels, and trying to spread more propaganda? Personally I prefer to hear the truth, not some drummed-up hysterical rant. Take a pill if you are that bad off.

    • Claire

      Sue C–If you know who it is, and you are positive, and have information, go to the police or better yet, the FBI.

  • http://yahoo.com Sue C

    LOOK HERE, LIBERTY! DON’T PLAY THE ASS! MY STATEMENT IS NOT A DUPLICATE! THIS IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ISSUE. MY FIRST STATEMENT WAS ABOUT IMMIGRATION, AND THIS ONE IS ABOUT THE OIL DISASTER IN THE GULF OF MEXICO! STOP THE NONSENSE, OR DON’T SEND ME ANY OF YOUR DAMNED E-MAILS!

    • JeffH

      Sue C, as upset as you are you should consider boycotting “LIBERTY” altogether and canceling the e-mails (unsubscribing)

      • libertytrain

        JeffH – I’ve got to say that I could not make heads or tails over what she was attempting to say…or at whom?

        • JeffH

          libertytrain…so far as I can recall…that’s a “status quo’ for Sue C.

          • Claire

            Whoa–I would say she is pissed. Texan–she is referring to Bush more than likely.

          • JeffH

            No doubt…it’s Bush’s fault again.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            don’t you know Bush went out there and beat on the valve with a sledge until it blew??? Lucky for him he was blown clear of the fire!!! I guess I really shouldn’t feed Sue like that but she sounds soignorant!!!

          • Claire

            JeffH–The only other rich white Texan is T. Boone Pickens. He chairs the hedge fund for BP. Hmmmmm….

          • JeffH

            Now Claire, what about JR Ewing?

          • Claire

            JeffH– Funny. JR would be capable, but Bobby Ewing was too honest. I came up with two other names–but maybe I shouldn’t post them. Heavy hitters donating to politicians-big money. Sue C’s post was weird. Why go through all that? Still, I have to admit I am curious.

          • Claire

            JeffH–Damn it, I want to play detective!

          • JeffH

            Claire…Sue C is another wierd one around here…to even begin to try to comprehend the chatter is like a 1000 piece puzzle. Where to start.

          • Claire

            JeffH–For her to imply something like that is rather odd, and she appeared to be very hostile.

          • JeffH

            Claire, all her posts have been a bit off with a penchant for real anger and hate. Reminds me of a one legged woman I once new named Ilene…didn’t have a left leg and always tilted to the left, no matter what! Oh well. lol

          • Claire

            JeffH–Here’s a funny– Bob likes to go to IHOP for breakfast sometimes and he will always says “I want to go to IHOP and see Ilene.” Gosh, that’s terrible.

  • Bogiewheel

    Lets get over the finger pointing for a moment…..There seems to be little thought to a group of innocent people who are being hit hard by this BP situation. There are thousands of elderly retired people in England who’s only income came from BP stock investments, which have now evaporated.

    The huge drop in BP shares came about when the “Statesmanship” of the Obama White House declared that BP “may” have done something illegal and in essence ( basically and without regard for peripheral details) BP is going to pay.

    The Obama White House has demonstrated a poor habit of making knee-jerk statements without consideration of consequence beyound the Rose Garden.

    • Claire

      “I never promised you a rose garden……”

      • Claire

        Bogiewheel-Sorry, I am getting tired and I get goofy when I am tired.

      • JeffH

        “I beg your pardon”

        • Claire

          JeffH—I left that out!!!

          • JeffH

            Claire, lol…I couldn’t resist and just had to add it in…such a good fit.

          • Claire

            JeffH— But you were correct. I didn’t have all the words.

  • http://gmail i41

    I gather that she thinks a Texan is involved, but what Texan in particular? A blow out in shallow water would have been taken care easier and quicker, there has been over 43,000 wells drilled in water with out a problem, the law of averages catch up with you in any activity. If I had to guess, the one with oil on his fingers is Onumnutt and his academic know and do nothings, all of them including Oidoity theorize. Theoriies are like rear ends every one and everything has one. I though Omoron was a Kenyan crossbred but not a Texan! I don’t he would last through a one night rodeo, he might hurt his fairy wrists, and he sure isn’t a dogger, or a roper, but a definitely a reject clown in the muton busting event!

  • http://gmail i41

    Boogiewheel, any one that has oil, stocks are going to take a hit, teachers unions, police officers union, for that matter any union. But they all seem to beleive in hope and change, also all the envior b–l s–t on going green. Of course dems and enviors are going to pay more for vasoline, since it is petrolem jelly, so they will get to see what the change is like, the American people with dems in total control, sure did with health care bill. But being socialists and progressives, dems are always claiming America needs change. Wait till the socialists get cap and fraudulant trade hits you electric bill and we all pay 19 dollars a gallon for fuel.

  • chuck b

    as far out as it may sound i suspect there could be more to this oil spill than we know. why haven’t they made more effort to skim this oil from the surface and why has the epa dragged its feet on all attempts to corner this catastrophe. there’s a rat here somewhere and even if the rig wasn’t sabotaged it looks like the enviro’s and the lib’s are using it to their advantage. they want a catastrophe.
    maybe we should petition god that he remove these ignorant people from power and do something about the ignorant people that voted for barry. i would like to throw in a few repub;s in that prayer.

    • eddie47d

      The “libs and enviro’s want a catastrophe” What crap!,and you claim the other side is ignorant.That’s like saying G.Bush wanted the planes to fly into the towers. We could take all the nosensical garbage you and i41 spread around and ship it to the Gulf and plug that hole.

      • chuck b

        eddie

        we sure plug that hole in your face. if they didn’t want this type of catastrophe, what took them so long before making any kind of effort to fix the problem and they are still stalling. huh? i guess you could say they are not capable of handling such a crisis, i’d agree on that one!!

      • Anthony

        Eddie -

        Have you researched LOOSE CHANGE ? (there’s even a 2nd Edition)
        What about “American Coup”…?

        You need to wake up boy…..

    • Jim H.

      Chuck b, The Dutch have a ship that siphons or skims the oil out of the water. It then separates the oil from the water and then discharges the water back into the ocean. The problem is it gets all but 5% of the oil out. The discharge water still has 5% of the oil in it and it is against the law for any ship to discharge any oil into the gulf. It took the bureaucrats 45 days to figure out that 5% of the oil is better than 100%. The ship is on it’s way over from Europe now, since they finally gave the ship an exemption. Bureaucrats,the words pragmatism nor expediency are in their vocabulary.

      • chuck b

        jim

        a national geographic program two days ago showed the coast guard skimming the water and separating the oil into 25,000 gal tubes, it doesn’t take a chinese attorney to figure out some of these recovery actions, however, the epa is too busy trying to find some reason not too. the radio reported today we have lots of barges set up for this type of recovery and are on the way there. so why has it taken so long for someone to get a handle on this??

        • Jim H.

          Chuck b, I don’t know how long it takes to move and set up this equipment, but 45 days does seem to long. Early on the estimates on how bad the damage is was underestimated, so maybe the call for help was delayed. I’m just speculating. We get so much information, from so many sources, it’s hard to separate fact from rumor. Then there is bureaucracy, moving at the speed of snail to issue permits. ( you need a permit for a disaster?)

          • Claire

            Jim H — It is taking forever to get things going and it is driving me nuts. A horrific disaster and “they” are moving like sloths. It makes me sick to think about the fishermen, the economy, the coastline, the marine life, egads. I am so impatient. I would have had things going on day one!!
            To hell with red tape, and bureaucracy. I just want to reach out and smack all their faces. How dare they screw around with a disaster such as this??!!

          • Claire

            Jim H–What about the plumes? BP says there are none, but yet someone has seen them. Dang it, I can’t remember the name of the person that saw them. Scientist? egads, I don’t know but I do remember thinking that I would believe the person first, not BP. This is what I heard on TV yesterday.

  • John Buoye

    Please take a little time on Saturday, June 5th, to express and project the following INTENTION for the Oil Spill in the Gulf: ‘My intention is for the Deepwater Horizon’s oil leak to be immediately and successfully contained, and full eco-balance restored to the surrounding sea and marine life.’

    No need to castigate any of the key parties to this disaster; just focus strongly on your intention that the problem be successfully resolved.

    Bless you

    • Anthony

      Another Oil Rig that ALMOST blew up before it even went online…?

      It was a BP Oil Rig, too. THUNDERHORSE

      http://www.offshore-technology.com/features/feature582/

      Many contend that the inherent safety measures were left untended or were completely missing. The above Article does not discuss the depth of malfeasance for safety protocols that BP is famous for.

      And, if someone is going to blame some TEXAN for this – they should NAME that person instead of ranting suspicious conspiracy talk – submit proof or shut up.

      • Claire

        Anthony–I have to agree with you–She commented about a certain Texan being the culprit for the oil spill, and she should not say things like this unless she has positive proof.

  • http://gmail i41

    edoit,I think using you as a well cap, to seal off the pipe by weighing down you feet with lead pigs, I’m sure you can find the jagged cut pipe in the dark with your special instinces for pipes in the dark. , With the crap you spew and beleive, a 24″ double walled tube should get the crude to the ship with no pumping. Get off your pioutietey buttons and yucca plant pods, and point out where chuck b and I are wrong, I know you cann’t back up anything you say, but your anal vent. Take about talking crap, of course if you went to a government run rez school and you bros trashed it in aa few months and you learned the native mandated way. I’ve built schools on the rez and indians will have the windows broke out and have holes beaten in the walls in a week. Still want to say we are not talking facts. You cann’t talk facts, and never will talk facts. Liberal socialist democrats all talk crap just like the muslim phoney leader of the democrat party Prez, I’d say the USA, but he isn’t a leader but a disenergator of the USA.

    • American Liberal

      41… I’m trying to read your post and you’re either drunk or a natural born idiot…maybe both…

  • http://gmail i41

    All Omoron has to do is talk to mohamad, he has already laid his hands on the tar balls on the sand, and soon he will touch the oily water and it will be fine. Dems and all puke socialists are getting their government requisitioned prayer rugs before elections happens. To get the deluxe presendital models. Islam and voodoo have a lot in common, both a ideology and is hocas pocas, just like Omoron, totally inadaquadit in real life. A socialist dream come true, just keep chanting kum by ya.

    • American Liberal

      41…another typical comment outta you…just like a seven year old might make.,.

    • JC

      And here I thought he was simply going to part the waters and command the oil to return to the earth.

  • chuck b

    141

    that will keep eddie thinking for while.lol

    • American Liberal

      Chuckie… I’m sure you can both relate and understand 41,s nonsense.. You may both share the same DNA…it’s what happens when you republicans marry your sisters and cousins

      • Anthony

        Aaah, yes. What would AL do, without this fake Left/Right Paradigm?

        • JC

          It’s all they’ve got…Oh that! and the race card.

  • ABinGA

    We know BP is resposible but I think we should be more concerned about the stopping of the leak and especially the clean up. Then Obama’s cronies can do their investigating but I believe O should be careful, if he goes after them to hard it could back fire on him. Bring more to light than what he wants.

  • Raggs

    Oh come on now!!!!
    The only reason it ( obama ) would consider going after BP is to gain ground on the myth of global warming. If you do not see that than well you need help in reality.

    BP is a union and it ( obama ) is in the pocket of all unions.

    So wake up and smell the BS.. ok already…
    obama is a fraud and a phony bastard. this country would be better never to see him.

  • ABinGA

    Won’t say I don’t agree with you Raggs and have already had enough of the BS

  • American Liberal

    It looks like we may need regulators to regulate the regulators…seems nobodys to be trusted anymore…Big oil as well as Wallstreet have shown they can’t be trusted…they will cheat and steal any chance they get..

    • JC

      Who will gaurd the gaurds?

  • American Liberal

    Bp has lied about how much oils been leaking… They lied about having the technology to deal with a disaster lije this..Damn right they should be held criminally accountable …

  • Antonio

    Hey Claire, In your first post you said something about how we will never really know why JFK was shot. well i just want to say that i have been researching this NWO stuff for a long time, and well i can say that every president from Washington to present has played a part in the BIG NWO. Now JFK however was againt the FED. Yeah, you heard me. Thats why he was shot, because instead of helping them he was going to expose them! So now i suppose everybody wants me to prove it right??? Here is the article for anyone who wishs to read it, it is long sorry.

    John F. Kennedy
    vs
    The Federal Reserve

    John-F-Kennedy.net Message Board
    Post | Read

    On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. The Christian Law Fellowship has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. We can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid.
    When President John Fitzgerald Kennedy – the author of Profiles in Courage -signed this Order, it returned to the federal government, specifically the Treasury Department, the Constitutional power to create and issue currency -money – without going through the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. President Kennedy’s Executive Order 11110 [the full text is displayed further below] gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority: “to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury.” This means that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury’s vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation based on the silver bullion physically held there. As a result, more than $4 billion in United States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. $10 and $20 United States Notes were never circulated but were being printed by the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated. It appears obvious that President Kennedy knew the Federal Reserve Notes being used as the purported legal currency were contrary to the Constitution of the United States of America.
    “United States Notes” were issued as an interest-free and debt-free currency backed by silver reserves in the U.S. Treasury. We compared a “Federal Reserve Note” issued from the private central bank of the United States (the Federal Reserve Bank a/k/a Federal Reserve System), with a “United States Note” from the U.S. Treasury issued by President Kennedy’s Executive Order. They almost look alike, except one says “Federal Reserve Note” on the top while the other says “United States Note”. Also, the Federal Reserve Note has a green seal and serial number while the United States Note has a red seal and serial number.
    President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 and the United States Notes he had issued were immediately taken out of circulation. Federal Reserve Notes continued to serve as the legal currency of the nation. According to the United States Secret Service, 99% of all U.S. paper “currency” circulating in 1999 are Federal Reserve Notes.
    Kennedy knew that if the silver-backed United States Notes were widely circulated, they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve Notes. This is a very simple matter of economics. The USN was backed by silver and the FRN was not backed by anything of intrinsic value. Executive Order 11110 should have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level (virtually all of the nearly $9 trillion in federal debt has been created since 1963) if LBJ or any subsequent President were to enforce it. It would have almost immediately given the U.S. Government the ability to repay its debt without going to the private Federal Reserve Banks and being charged interest to create new “money”. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S.A. the ability to, once again, create its own money backed by silver and realm value worth something.
    Again, according to our own research, just five months after Kennedy was assassinated, no more of the Series 1958 “Silver Certificates” were issued either, and they were subsequently removed from circulation. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to all future presidents not to interfere with the private Federal Reserve’s control over the creation of money. It seems very apparent that President Kennedy challenged the “powers that exist behind U.S. and world finance”. With true patriotic courage, JFK boldly faced the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt:
    1) war (Viet Nam); and,
    2) the creation of money by a privately owned central bank. His efforts to have all U.S. troops out of Vietnam by 1965 combined with Executive Order 11110 would have destroyed the profits and control of the private Federal Reserve Bank.

    Executive Order 11110
    AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289 AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY. By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:
    SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended – (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j): “(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption,” and (b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof. SECTION 2. The amendment made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.
    JOHN F. KENNEDY THE WHITE HOUSE, June 4, 1963

    Once again, Executive Order 11110 is still valid. According to Title 3, United States Code, Section 301 dated January 26, 1998:
    Executive Order (EO) 10289 dated Sept. 17, 1951, 16 F.R. 9499, was as amended by:
    EO 10583, dated December 18, 1954, 19 F.R. 8725;
    EO 10882 dated July 18, 1960, 25 F.R. 6869;
    EO 11110 dated June 4, 1963, 28 F.R. 5605;
    EO 11825 dated December 31, 1974, 40 F.R. 1003;
    EO 12608 dated September 9, 1987, 52 F.R. 34617
    The 1974 and 1987 amendments, added after Kennedy’s 1963 amendment, did not change or alter any part of Kennedy’s EO 11110. A search of Clinton’s 1998 and 1999 EO’s and Presidential Directives has also shown no reference to any alterations, suspensions, or changes to EO 11110.
    The Federal Reserve Bank, a.k.a Federal Reserve System, is a Private Corporation. Black’s Law Dictionary defines the “Federal Reserve System” as: “Network of twelve central banks to which most national banks belong and to which state chartered banks may belong. Membership rules require investment of stock and minimum reserves.” Privately-owned banks own the stock of the FED. This was explained in more detail in the case of Lewis v. United States, Federal Reporter, 2nd Series, Vol. 680, Pages 1239, 1241 (1982), where the court said: “Each Federal Reserve Bank is a separate corporation owned by commercial banks in its region. The stock-holding commercial banks elect two thirds of each Bank’s nine member board of directors”.
    The Federal Reserve Banks are locally controlled by their member banks. Once again, according to Black’s Law Dictionary, we find that these privately owned banks actually issue money:
    “Federal Reserve Act. Law which created Federal Reserve banks which act as agents in maintaining money reserves, issuing money in the form of bank notes, lending money to banks, and supervising banks. Administered by Federal Reserve Board (q.v.)”.
    The privately owned Federal Reserve (FED) banks actually issue (create) the “money” we use. In 1964, the House Committee on Banking and Currency, Subcommittee on Domestic Finance, at the second session of the 88th Congress, put out a study entitled Money Facts which contains a good description of what the FED is: “The Federal Reserve is a total money-making machine. It can issue money or checks. And it never has a problem of making its checks good because it can obtain the $5 and $10 bills necessary to cover its check simply by asking the Treasury Department’s Bureau of Engraving to print them”.
    Any one person or any closely knit group who has a lot of money has a lot of power. Now imagine a group of people who have the power to create money. Imagine the power these people would have. This is exactly what the privately owned FED is!
    No man did more to expose the power of the FED than Louis T. McFadden, who was the Chairman of the House Banking Committee back in the 1930s. In describing the FED, he remarked in the Congressional Record, House pages 1295 and 1296 on June 10, 1932:
    “Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government Board, has cheated the Government of the United States and he people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the maladministration of that law by which the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it”.
    Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions, departments, or agencies. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers. Those 12 private credit monopolies were deceitfully placed upon this country by bankers who came here from Europe and who repaid us for our hospitality by undermining our American institutions.
    The FED basically works like this: The government granted its power to create money to the FED banks. They create money, then loan it back to the government charging interest. The government levies income taxes to pay the interest on the debt. On this point, it’s interesting to note that the Federal Reserve Act and the sixteenth amendment, which gave congress the power to collect income taxes, were both passed in 1913. The incredible power of the FED over the economy is universally admitted. Some people, especially in the banking and academic communities, even support it. On the other hand, there are those, such as President John Fitzgerald Kennedy, that have spoken out against it. His efforts were spoken about in Jim Marrs’ 1990 book Crossfire:”
    Another overlooked aspect of Kennedy’s attempt to reform American society involves money. Kennedy apparently reasoned that by returning to the constitution, which states that only Congress shall coin and regulate money, the soaring national debt could be reduced by not paying interest to the bankers of the Federal Reserve System, who print paper money then loan it to the government at interest. He moved in this area on June 4, 1963, by signing Executive Order 11110 which called for the issuance of $4,292,893,815 in United States Notes through the U.S. Treasury rather than the traditional Federal Reserve System. That same day, Kennedy signed a bill changing the backing of one and two dollar bills from silver to gold, adding strength to the weakened U.S. currency.
    Kennedy’s comptroller of the currency, James J. Saxon, had been at odds with the powerful Federal Reserve Board for some time, encouraging broader investment and lending powers for banks that were not part of the Federal Reserve system. Saxon also had decided that non-Reserve banks could underwrite state and local general obligation bonds, again weakening the dominant Federal Reserve banks”.
    In a comment made to a Columbia University class on Nov. 12, 1963,
    Ten days before his assassination, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy allegedly said:
    “The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American’s freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight.”
    In this matter, John Fitzgerald Kennedy appears to be the subject of his own book… a true Profile of Courage.
    This research report was compiled for Lawgiver. Org. by Anthony Wayne
    What is the Federal Reserve Bank?
    What is the Federal Reserve Bank (FED) and why do we have it?
    by Greg Hobbs November 1, 1999
    The FED is a central bank. Central banks are supposed to implement a country’s fiscal policies. They monitor commercial banks to ensure that they maintain sufficient assets, like cash, so as to remain solvent and stable. Central banks also do business, such as currency exchanges and gold transactions, with other central banks. In theory, a central bank should be good for a country, and they might be if it wasn’t for the fact that they are not owned or controlled by the government of the country they are serving. Private central banks, including our FED, operate not in the interest of the public good but for profit.
    There have been three central banks in our nation’s history. The first two, while deceptive and fraudulent, pale in comparison to the scope and size of the fraud being perpetrated by our current FED. What they all have in common is an insidious practice known as “fractional banking.”
    Fractional banking or fractional lending is the ability to create money from nothing, lend it to the government or someone else and charge interest to boot. The practice evolved before banks existed. Goldsmiths rented out space in their vaults to individuals and merchants for storage of their gold or silver. The goldsmiths gave these “depositors” a certificate that showed the amount of gold stored. These certificates were then used to conduct business.
    In time the goldsmiths noticed that the gold in their vaults was rarely withdrawn. Small amounts would move in and out but the large majority never moved. Sensing a profit opportunity, the goldsmiths issued double receipts for the gold, in effect creating money (certificates) from nothing and then lending those certificates (creating debt) to depositors and charging them interest as well.
    Since the certificates represented more gold than actually existed, the certificates were “fractionally” backed by gold. Eventually some of these vault operations were transformed into banks and the practice of fractional banking continued.
    Keep that fractional banking concept in mind as we examine our first central bank, the First Bank of the United States (BUS). It was created, after bitter dissent in the Congress, in 1791 and chartered for 20 years. A scam not unlike the current FED, the BUS used its control of the currency to defraud the public and establish a legal form of usury.
    This bank practiced fractional lending at a 10:1 rate, ten dollars of loans for each dollar they had on deposit. This misuse and abuse of their public charter continued for the entire 20 years of their existence. Public outrage over these abuses was such that the charter was not renewed and the bank ceased to exist in 1811.
    The war of 1812 left the country in economic chaos, seen by bankers as another opportunity for easy profits. They influenced Congress to charter the second central bank, the Second Bank of the United States (SBUS), in 1816.
    The SBUS was more expansive than the BUS. The SBUS sold franchises and literally doubled the number of banks in a short period of time. The country began to boom and move westward, which required money. Using fractional lending at the 10:1 rate, the central bank and their franchisees created the debt/money for the expansion.
    Things boomed for a while, then the banks decided to shut off the debt/money, citing the need to control inflation. This action on the part of the SBUS caused bankruptcies and foreclosures. The banks then took control of the assets that were used as security against the loans.
    Closely examine how the SBUS engineered this cycle of prosperity and depression. The central bank caused inflation by creating debt/money for loans and credit and making these funds readily available. The economy boomed. Then they used the inflation which they created as an excuse to shut off the loans/credit/money.
    The resulting shortage of cash caused the economy to falter or slow dramatically and large numbers of business and personal bankruptcies resulted. The central bank then seized the assets used as security for the loans. The wealth created by the borrowers during the boom was then transferred to the central bank during the bust. And you always wondered how the big guys ended up with all the marbles.
    Now, who do you think is responsible for all of the ups and downs in our economy over the last 85 years? Think about the depression of the late ’20s and all through the ’30s. The FED could have pumped lots of debt/money into the market to stimulate the economy and get the country back on track, but did they? No; in fact, they restricted the money supply quite severely. We all know the results that occurred from that action, don’t we?
    Why would the FED do this? During that period asset values and stocks were at rock bottom prices. Who do you think was buying everything at 10 cents on the dollar? I believe that it is referred to as consolidating the wealth. How many times have they already done this in the last 85 years?
    Do you think they will do it again?
    Just as an aside at this point, look at today’s economy. Markets are declining. Why? Because the FED has been very liberal with its debt/credit/money. The market was hyper inflated. Who creates inflation? The FED. How does the FED deal with inflation? They restrict the debt/credit/money. What happens when they do that? The market collapses.
    Several months back, after certain central banks said they would be selling large quantities of gold, the price of gold fell to a 25-year low of about $260 per ounce. The central banks then bought gold. After buying at the bottom, a group of 15 central banks announced that they would be restricting the amount of gold released into the market for the next five years. The price of gold went up $75.00 per ounce in just a few days. How many hundreds of billions of dollars did the central banks make with those two press releases?
    Gold is generally considered to be a hedge against more severe economic conditions. Do you think that the private banking families that own the FED are buying or selling equities at this time? (Remember: buy low, sell high.) How much money do you think these FED owners have made since they restricted the money supply at the top of this last current cycle?
    Alan Greenspan has said publicly on several occasions that he thinks the market is overvalued, or words to that effect. Just a hint that he will raise interest rates (restrict the money supply), and equity markets have a negative reaction. Governments and politicians do not rule central banks, central banks rule governments and politicians. President Andrew Jackson won the presidency in 1828 with the promise to end the national debt and eliminate the SBUS. During his second term President Jackson withdrew all government funds from the bank and on January 8, 1835, paid off the national debt. He is the only president in history to have this distinction. The charter of the SBUS expired in 1836.
    Without a central bank to manipulate the supply of money, the United States experienced unprecedented growth for 60 or 70 years, and the resulting wealth was too much for bankers to endure. They had to get back into the game. So, in 1910 Senator Nelson Aldrich, then Chairman of the National Monetary Commission, in collusion with representatives of the European central banks, devised a plan to pressure and deceive Congress into enacting legislation that would covertly establish a private central bank.
    This bank would assume control over the American economy by controlling the issuance of its money. After a huge public relations campaign, engineered by the foreign central banks, the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was slipped through Congress during the Christmas recess, with many members of the Congress absent. President Woodrow Wilson, pressured by his political and financial backers, signed it on December 23, 1913.
    The act created the Federal Reserve System, a name carefully selected and designed to deceive. “Federal” would lead one to believe that this is a government organization. “Reserve” would lead one to believe that the currency is being backed by gold and silver. “System” was used in lieu of the word “bank” so that one would not conclude that a new central bank had been created.
    In reality, the act created a private, for profit, central banking corporation owned by a cartel of private banks. Who owns the FED? The Rothschilds of London and Berlin; Lazard Brothers of Paris; Israel Moses Seif of Italy; Kuhn, Loeb and Warburg of Germany; and the Lehman Brothers, Goldman, Sachs and the Rockefeller families of New York.
    Did you know that the FED is the only for-profit corporation in America that is exempt from both federal and state taxes? The FED takes in about one trillion dollars per year tax free! The banking families listed above get all that money.
    Almost everyone thinks that the money they pay in taxes goes to the US Treasury to pay for the expenses of the government. Do you want to know where your tax dollars really go? If you look at the back of any check made payable to the IRS you will see that it has been endorsed as “Pay Any F.R.B. Branch or Gen. Depository for Credit U.S. Treas. This is in Payment of U.S. Oblig.” Yes, that’s right, every dime you pay in income taxes is given to those private banking families, commonly known as the FED, tax free.
    Like many of you, I had some difficulty with the concept of creating money from nothing. You may have heard the term “monetizing the debt,” which is kind of the same thing. As an example, if the US Government wants to borrow $1 million ó the government does borrow every dollar it spends ó they go to the FED to borrow the money. The FED calls the Treasury and says print 10,000 Federal Reserve Notes (FRN) in units of one hundred dollars.
    The Treasury charges the FED 2.3 cents for each note, for a total of $230 for the 10,000 FRNs. The FED then lends the $1 million to the government at face value plus interest. To add insult to injury, the government has to create a bond for $1 million as security for the loan. And the rich get richer. The above was just an example, because in reality the FED does not even print the money; it’s just a computer entry in their accounting system. To put this on a more personal level, let’s use another example.
    Today’s banks are members of the Federal Reserve Banking System. This membership makes it legal for them to create money from nothing and lend it to you. Today’s banks, like the goldsmiths of old, realize that only a small fraction of the money deposited in their banks is ever actually withdrawn in the form of cash. Only about 4 percent of all the money that exists is in the form of currency. The rest of it is simply a computer entry.
    Let’s say you’re approved to borrow $10,000 to do some home improvements. You know that the bank didn’t actually take $10,000 from its pile of cash and put it into your pile? They simply went to their computer and input an entry of $10,000 into your account. They created, from thin air, a debt which you have to secure with an asset and repay with interest. The bank is allowed to create and lend as much debt as they want as long as they do not exceed the 10:1 ratio imposed by the FED.
    It sort of puts a new slant on how you view your friendly bank, doesn’t it? How about those loan committees that scrutinize you with a microscope before approving the loan they created from thin air. What a hoot! They make it complex for a reason. They don’t want you to understand what they are doing. People fear what they do not understand. You are easier to delude and control when you are ignorant and afraid.
    Now to put the frosting on this cake. When was the income tax created? If you guessed 1913, the same year that the FED was created, you get a gold star. Coincidence? What are the odds? If you are going to use the FED to create debt, who is going to repay that debt? The income tax was created to complete the illusion that real money had been lent and therefore real money had to be repaid. And you thought Houdini was good.
    So, what can be done? My father taught me that you should always stand up for what is right, even if you have to stand up alone.
    If “We the People” don’t take some action now, there may come a time when “We the People” are no more. You should write a letter or send an email to each of your elected representatives. Many of our elected representatives do not understand the FED. Once informed they will not be able to plead ignorance and remain silent.
    Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution specifically says that Congress is the only body that can “coin money and regulate the value thereof.” The US Constitution has never been amended to allow anyone other than Congress to coin and regulate currency.
    Ask your representative, in light of that information, how it is possible for the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, and the Federal Reserve Bank that it created, to be constitutional. Ask them why this private banking cartel is allowed to reap trillions of dollars in profits without paying taxes. Insist on an answer.
    Thomas Jefferson said, “If the America people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.”
    Jefferson saw it coming 150 years ago. The question is, “Can you now see what is in store for us if we allow the FED to continue controlling our country?”

    “The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he breaks, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime, and the punishment of his guilt.”

    John P. Curran

    • American Liberal

      Pretty interesting.. But that’s just way to much ” theory” for me…I’m not saying that post isn’t true or possible ,I’m just saying theirs way to many dead guys in that theory to really walk away knowing the truth…you’ve done some impressive research just to get to your theory..

      • Anthony

        It’s not theory, pal. Let’s see you prove it false.

    • JeffH

      Antonio, we covered this in an earlier thread and I believe Lincoln very well could have suffered from the same fate.

      LINCOLN/TAYLOR/KENNEDY
      THE GREENBACK — TRUTH, SPECULATION, AND TRIVIA
      “Once a nation parts with the control of its currency and credit, it matters not who makes the laws.

      “Usury once in control will wreck any nation.

      “Until the control of the issue of currency and credit is restored to government and recognized as its most conspicuous and sacred responsibility, all talk of the sovereignty of Parliament and of Democracy is idle and futile.”
      The Right Honourable W.L.MacKenzie King,
      Prime Minister of Canada (1934)

      “I have two great enemies,” Lincoln once said, “the southern army in front of me and the financial institutions in the rear. Of the two, the one in the rear is the greatest enemy.”
      …Lincoln, released from the problems of the Civil War, following his second election, proceeded at once to free mankind from the burden of unpayable, interest-bearing debt claims. He lost no time in commencing his campaign to free the American people from the slavery of mass usury.
      The oligarchy of high finance saw in the successful Lincoln a statesman enjoying the unchallengeable power of exalted leadership which is the privilege of superior achievement. He was the one man in the world who was willing and able to meet and to overthrow the control over the government which organized finance was seeking to perfect. With the problems of the rebellion out of the way, the bankers knew that Lincoln would devote his undivided attention to developing the monetary system he had proposed to Congress. If Lincoln were allowed to carry out his ideas, the hope that international financiers had of establishing world sovereignty for Money Power would be impossible of fulfilment.
      Thus we see that Lincoln was a leader of humanity which orthodox finance dared not suffer to survive. Lincoln was assassinated.
      Who, then, were the instigators of the conspiracy that ended in his murder? That is a question worthy of investigation.
      The assassination of Lincoln under such circumstances emphasized the commendation his friends offered to him in the platform of the Convention of 1864 and gives a sinister atmosphere to their reference to Lincoln’s protection of “the nation against its open and secret foes”. The “secret foes” of the nation were the money dealers, the members of the age-old craft of usury, who, as we shall see, fulfill the description of the group of men who, cleverly concealing their part in the greatest of all American crimes, induced by promises of money reward Lincoln’s assassination.

      The Lincoln greenback issue not only offended the eastern bankers in this country, but their superiors in England. The European money power (essentially, the Bank of England), feared the greenback. In fact, it almost threw the weight of the British Empire behind the Southern cause. The need for access to cotton was not the only interest England had in the Confederacy.

      ” ‘The great debt that (our friends the) capitalists (of Europe) will see to it is made out of the war must be used to control the volume of money… It will not do to allow the greenback, as it is called, to circulate… for we cannot control them’ ” (from the Hazard Circular, of the year 1862, quoted by Ezra Pound, page on 104 of Impact
      The Kennedy assassination, in particular, is very much the subject of on-going “conspiracy” theories (See Kennedy, below). The Lincoln assassination, like-wise, still cries out for further investigation, though the public now, as then, is far less aware of the causes for continued interest. That Lincoln was killed by a lone “Southern partisan” is only partly true, but the plot appears to be much, much thicker than has been popularly believed. Booth seems to have been an agent for a very unlikely combine of more sinister forces.

      In both the Lincoln and Kennedy assassinations, there is more than mere appearance of official “cover-up” and obfuscation of both motives and related issues. In both instances there were several convenient “obvious” motives which were, at least initially, very convincing to the public.

      The House committee that finalized the investigation into Lincoln’s assassination essentially concluded—in the words of spokesman, Massachusetts Congressman, George S. Boutwell:

      “The whole matter is really very simple, John Wilkes Booth shot the President, and some dirty Rebs, including Jeff Davis, helped him do it. Nobody else! So far as I’m concerned, this case is closed!”

      A similarly simple conclusion was reached in the Kennedy assassination investigation conducted by the Warren Commission. Over a century elapsed before 18 critically revealing missing pages of John Wilkes Booth’s diary were discovered. It may take as long to get to the bottom of the Kennedy assassination. Those 18 pages of diary revealed the names of those (mostly northern men) with whom Booth had been involved in the various evolutions of the conspiracies against Lincoln. Significantly, the missing diary pages finally turned up in the possession of the descendants of none other than Lincoln’s own Secretary of War, Edwin M. Stanton!

    • Claire

      Antonio—Very impressive read, thank you. I do think JFK was murdered because of the Federal Reserve. There are a lot of theories concerning the JFK assassination. Your post suggests the fact every president since Kennedy has played a part in the NWO, and I think this is certainly believable.I have to read your post the second time, once was not enough.

      • Anthony

        It gets more mind-boggling once you find out who the Players were and why they decided to say it was necessary to take JFK out.

        In the beginning, all of the Players felt John F would be th eperfect patsy to achieve the NWO PLANET right then and there in the 1960′s.

        But, a curious thing happened – JFK found his real roots as a Man and as an American – a FREE American. He had a life altering event with PT.109 and when he became President, he took that event with him. As stated above, he decided (privately) to fight back against the CFR and THE FED’s Handlers (European Central Bank FAMILIES) and began an effort to become the 2nd Andrew Jackson. On Jackson’s tombstone you will find “I KILLED THE BANK” … and it’s no joke.

        The BP Incident is nothing more than another False Flag.
        43,000 Oil Rigs in many very dangerous waters and suddenly this?
        Come one – look at THUNDERHORSE and tell me this Incident wasn’t planned?

        They are about killing off 40% of the fishing industry products to the people … Why would that be necessary?

        1. Take over medicine (Health Care)
        2. Take away weapons (have you seen the lawsuits?)
        3. Take away the food…..

        It’s methodical and what’s more… you know it.
        Quit making excuses like a bunch of Stepford Wives.

        • Claire

          Anthony– If your post was directed at me, do not accuse me of making excuses like a bunch of Stepford wives.

  • http://gmail i41

    a lib, you socialist dems just breed and reproduce on any compatable female with your mental defunked mush, liberals. don’t beleive in marrage or commitment.Chuch b and I only marry a women, who live several hundred miles away from us. You democrats are like earth worms, you will become what ever sex you desire and a willing at the moment, I know your muslim socialist leader couldn’t decide what he was and neither can the Americans. Since you will not tell us if you work or ever have, do you fit in a special club or catagory.Like maybe a Black, Irish, jewish, muslim homosexual house keeper? That would e why you have an idenity crisis and cann’t reproduce.

  • ROSEBUD

    WHENEVER OBAMA GETS ON HIS BULLY PULPIT IT IS ONLY EXACERBATED BY SOME
    PUBLIC COMMENTS. OTHERWISE HE’S COOL. HE WILL CONTINUE THIS CHARADE AS HE DID WITH GOLDMAN SACHS ASKING FOR AN INVESTIGATION AS CONGRESS CONDUCTED, BUT WHERE DID IT GO? NOWHERE, THAT IS BECAUSE GOLDMAN SACHS DOES WHAT THEY DO AS A BUSINESS & EVERYONE INVOLVED IN CONGRESS OR HIS ADMINISTRATION TAKES MONEY FROM GOLDMAN SACHS SO IT WAS ALL SHOW. SAME GOES FOR OIL DRILLING. BP WAS DOING WHAT BP DOES. NOT NECESSARY TO BAN OTHER DRILL RIGS NOW WHEN THEY NEED JOBS & WE NEED THE OIL. BUT IT IS PART OF HIS AGENDA TO USE THIS TO PUSH AN ENERGY/CLIMATE BILL THAT WILL COST US MORE TO HEAT & RUN OUR HOMES. IT’S HIS ADMINISTRATION, NAMELY DEPT OF THE INTERIOR SECRETARY KEN SALAZAR WHO IS IN CHARGE OF OFFSHORE DRILLING IN THE GULF. IT IS BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS THAT THEY ARE DRILLING SO FAR OUT WHERE THE PRESSURE IS GREATER & MORE DANGEROUS. WHILE IN THE SENATE SALAZAR PROMOTED & VOTED FOR THE GULF OF MEXICO ENERGY & SECURITY ACT OF 2006, & OBAMA WAS IN THE SENATE THEN. MAYBE THAT’S WHY HE WAS APPOINTED THE JOB? IT WAS UNDER HIS REIGN THAT MMMS APPROVED THE DRILLING WITHOUT THE NECESSARY PERMITS REQUIRED BY LAW & OVERRULED WARNINGS REGARDING SAFETY & ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. IT’S VERY POSSIBLE THIS WAS AN ARRANGED CRISIS TO PUSH THROUGH HIS AGENDA. YOU KNOW, LOOK THE OTHER WAY KIND OF THING. OBAMA WILL CARRY ON HIS DOG & PONY SHOW SO NO ONE IN HIS ADMINISTRATION GETS BLAMED WHEN IT’S ALL THERE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ALL OF US. LIAR,PHONY,FRAUD SLIVER OF SPECIMEN OF A HUMAN BEING THAT EVER PAID FOR THIS OWN JOB. IF IT WASN’T FOR UNIONS & ACORN HE WOULDN’T EXIST. HE THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER! A MARXIST FROM OUT OF THE WOODWORK.
    IT WAS UNDER THE CRA THAT HE WORKED AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER FOR ACORN FORCING BANKS TO GIVE LOANS TO THE POOR PUSHED THROUGH FANNIE MAE (HIS BUDDY CEO, FRANKLIN RAINES TOOK $90 MIL BONUS & PAID OFF BARNEY FRANK, CHRIS DODD, MAXINE WATERS & OBAMA TO COVER FOR HIM WHILE HE KEPT TWO SETS OF BOOKS) & FREDDIE MAC THAT TOOK DOWN ALL THE BANKS & PUT OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM IN CHAOS RUINING THE ENTIRE ECONOMY WHILE HE BLAMES WALL ST FAT CATS. WHAT IS HE & ALL HIS CRONIES IN THE WHITE HOUSE? SKINNY CATS! IT’S ALL PART OF HIS AGENDA.

  • ROSEBUD

    WHENEVER OBAMA GETS ON HIS BULLY PULPIT IT IS ONLY EXACERBATED BY SOME
    PUBLIC COMMENTS. OTHERWISE HE’S COOL. HE WILL CONTINUE THIS CHARADE AS HE DID WITH GOLDMAN SACHS ASKING FOR AN INVESTIGATION AS CONGRESS CONDUCTED, BUT WHERE DID IT GO? NOWHERE, THAT IS BECAUSE GOLDMAN SACHS DOES WHAT THEY DO AS A BUSINESS & EVERYONE INVOLVED IN CONGRESS OR HIS ADMINISTRATION TAKES MONEY FROM GOLDMAN SACHS SO IT WAS ALL SHOW. SAME GOES FOR OIL DRILLING. BP WAS DOING WHAT BP DOES. NOT NECESSARY TO BAN OTHER DRILL RIGS NOW WHEN THEY NEED JOBS & WE NEED THE OIL. BUT IT IS PART OF HIS AGENDA TO USE THIS TO PUSH AN ENERGY/CLIMATE BILL THAT WILL COST US MORE TO HEAT & RUN OUR HOMES. IT’S HIS ADMINISTRATION, NAMELY DEPT OF THE INTERIOR SECRETARY KEN SALAZAR WHO IS IN CHARGE OF OFFSHORE DRILLING IN THE GULF. IT IS BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS THAT THEY ARE DRILLING SO FAR OUT WHERE THE PRESSURE IS GREATER & MORE DANGEROUS. WHILE IN THE SENATE SALAZAR PROMOTED & VOTED FOR THE GULF OF MEXICO ENERGY & SECURITY ACT OF 2006, & OBAMA WAS IN THE SENATE THEN. MAYBE THAT’S WHY HE WAS APPOINTED THE JOB? IT WAS UNDER HIS REIGN THAT MMS APPROVED THE DRILLING WITHOUT THE NECESSARY PERMITS REQUIRED BY LAW & OVERRULED WARNINGS REGARDING SAFETY & ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. IT’S VERY POSSIBLE THIS WAS AN ARRANGED “CRISIS” TO PUSH THROUGH HIS AGENDA. YOU KNOW, LOOK THE OTHER WAY KIND OF THING. OBAMA WILL CARRY ON HIS DOG & PONY SHOW SO NO ONE IN HIS ADMINISTRATION GETS BLAMED WHEN IT’S ALL THERE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ALL OF US. LIAR,PHONY,FRAUD SLIVER OF SPECIMEN OF A HUMAN BEING THAT EVER PAID FOR HIS OWN JOB. IF IT WASN’T FOR UNIONS & ACORN HE WOULDN’T EXIST. HE’S THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER! A MARXIST FROM OUT OF THE WOODWORK & A SAUL ALINSKY CREATION.
    IT WAS UNDER THE CRA THAT HE WORKED AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER FOR ACORN FORCING BANKS TO GIVE LOANS TO THE POOR & PUSHED THROUGH FANNIE MAE W/(HIS BUDDY CEO, FRANKLIN RAINES TOOK $90 MIL BONUS & PAID OFF BARNEY FRANK, CHRIS DODD, MAXINE WATERS & OBAMA TO COVER FOR HIM WHILE HE KEPT TWO SETS OF BOOKS) & FREDDIE MAC THAT TOOK DOWN ALL THE BANKS & PUT OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM IN CHAOS RUINING THE ENTIRE ECONOMY WHILE HE BLAMES WALL ST FAT CATS. WHAT IS HE & ALL HIS CRONIES IN THE WHITE HOUSE? SKINNY CATS? IT’S ALL PART OF HIS AGENDA & WE SHOULD BE SCAREDY CATS!

    • Anthony

      Franklin Raines actually got more than $120million

      What’s more (?) He never had to give any of it back!

  • John Galt

    What next? A felony accident law? Does “O” think BP carefully planned this accident?

  • Claire

    My friend in Florida is really upset. She lives on the gulf and when she called early this morning she was crying. She told me that the people she knows and her neighbors in Florida are really upset and her relatives in Louisiana are heartbroken. Some of her relatives are fishermen.
    I also read in the newspaper this morning–a guy named P.J. Hahn, director of coastal zone management for Louisiana’s Plaquemines Parish said: “In Revelations, it says the water will turn to blood, and this is what it looks like out here–like the Gulf is bleeding. This is going to choke the life out of everything. It makes we want to cry.”
    I notice that some TV channels are not showing scenes from the oil spill disaster and they should. I am watching certain cable news channels just so that I can see the devastation that is going on.
    I wonder why some channels are not covering the entire situation.

    • Claire

      Darn it!! It makes me want to cry.” not we

  • chuck b

    claire

    this is another reason this administration has failed the country, they have set back and let the environmentalist make the decisions for any and all action. these people don’t have a clue what they do. they are trying to make “bp” the fall guy, well, they did cause the spill by doing what they do, however, i don’t believe they would possibly do anything this catastrophic intentionally. barry is trying to cover his rear end by ordering holder to make a criminal investigation, “what a joke.”
    . barry is more responsible for this mess than anyone. by his failure to take control of the situation and get the right people to make the necessary and intelligent decisions, now watch the big coverup with this commission he has set up ( all global warming freaks) he’s in the corner and about to get his due unless they can blame someone else and that’s what they will be doing. the environmentalist should be held responsible, they are the ones forcing the oil companies into deeper water. hang them alongside their leader “barry”

    • Mike In MI

      chuck b – Out of all the notes I’ve read on here today, I think, you’ve made one of the best calls of all. But there’s more to it.

      Personally, I think Obama is absolutely elated that this has happened. He waited, what(?), ten…twelve days before he even got someone to say, “We’ve been on this since day one!” Rat’s ballsderdash!!! Landrieu and Jindall and some of his “Retrogressives” had to nudge him into action with a radio and tv kick in the ass before he got out of his sqwat position. To him and all his Alinskyite buddies this is a perfect “overwhelm the system” moment – not exactly a crisis they can let go to waste.
      Obumbler, as is his habit, blamed it on Bush. Well, it’s my understanding, Bush’s people knew this rig would be hard and dangerous for a number of reasons. So, they required equipment and supplies to be made available in case of just such an occurence.
      So, where did they put it? Or, did Obumbler in his messianic zeal for the poor and sick divert the funds? Supplies? Equipment? His administration hasn’t done anything except make trouble for and complain about BP’s efforts. O yea…He fired his MMS person, and impede the efforts of anyone who might have a hint or a clue about what to do.
      It just looks to me like he’s afraid somebody’s going to say-” HEY BARRY, WHERE’D ALL THE GXX DAMXXXD MONEY GO SO OUR GOVERNMENT CAN PUT TOGETHER AN EFFORT TO PLUG THE DAMNED HOLE. YOU JACK ASS, IF WE WEREN’T SO BROKE MAYBE WE COULD RESPOND TO AN EMERGENCY – LIKE IN THE GULF – OR ARIZONA – OR TENNESSEE – OR WHERE EVER THE NEXT ONE HAPPENS TO SHOW UP.” I just think we’re in an awful shape and Obumbler don’t care.
      Maybe we should make him go back to the banks, personally, with his hat in his hand and say, “Please, Mr. Banker, will you lend us some money to shove it in our hole?”
      And, they’ll say, “Well, got anything for collateral? Dodd just passed a new law stating we can’t make any loans that might be risky or put the economy in jeopardy. So, no! Don’t you and those people behind you darken our door ever again.”
      Yep! That’s what happens when liberals, who have no concept of what’s right/wrong, reasonable/irresponsible, prudent/foolish, Godly/Devilish get in power because that would require “J-U-D-G-M-E-N-T”. They don’t have any to sell, give away, cast to the winds or keep for themselves…or at all.

      • Mike In MI

        Oh! I forgot what we have to look forward to and deal with. The last time something like this happenned in the Gulf great big parts of the ocean became so ecologically unbalanced The Gulf got sick and filled up with “Red Tide Algae” – and everything turned to poison.

        Another thing to look forward to will be the potential for really bad hurricanes. The dark oil in the water soaks up lots of the sun’s heat. That will raise the water’s temperature providing lots of evaporation to seed clouds and provide energy for massive tornadoes and hurricanes when they get to the gulf.

        Other than that the only problem will arise in the marshes, estuaries, river mouths, tidal flats, oyster beds, breeding grounds, fish and lobster migration routes up the eastern seaboard – and maybe a few gooey beaches where people tend to gongregate.

        Thanks to Obumbler and his friends we no longer need to worry about rising water levels – only rising oil levels. Thanks Obumbler we know somebody like you and your friends won’t let a good crisis go to waste. Hey, if your the new messiah why don’t you liberally wae your hand over the sea, find somebod to bribe or do something to pass a law so Bush can’t do this to us again…maybe, plunk your majic twanger, Froggy?

    • Claire

      chuck b–Yes, he should have provided aid on day one of this oil spill. This oil spill will be his albatross. I know he sent Holder down there but what for? Lawsuit? Investigation? Holder can’t handle an oil spill situation, he can’t handle his own job. For gosh sakes, I would have sent a true investigator or someone that knew what the heck they were doing.
      Another thing that bothers me is how long it took Obama to travel to the gulf! That aggravated me. I would have been down there immediately.
      Like I told Vicki on this site, the big tankers should have been brought in immediately especially since it takes awhile for them to get to the gulf.
      I am concerned for the environment but I am not a radical. Human beings must come first.

  • http://gmail i41

    Well the simple minded morons who never read, just watch movies, never watch any news, and wanted and beleived the hope and change b–lt s–t. They all voted for socialist democrats and the muslim phoney for Prez. Those same dumb illegimate spawn will soon get a rude awaking twords the end of the year, higher costs in taxes, goods and energy, both electricity and fuel. Electricty will climb close to a 100% increase, even ol’ purple lips has stated this fact. All rural electric suppliers are putting out only a 95+% increase! Oidoit and his flaky group osocialist terrorist gang, want the price of fuel to be as high as it is in the EU. Elections do have consquenses, and the dems cann’t blame any one, but their own sorry rears for the envior and finanical mess. The higher the taxes the worse the economy gets. This oil mess, was a fact the more government agencies we have, the slower any thing get done in an emergency disaster. Playing golf, being serended by fruity musicians, and theorizing doesn’t accomish crap. We all will pay the price for idoits voting for the marxist muslim,m,m,m,m!!!!

  • http://gmail i41

    MikeinMI, just look at the positive side, the envior nuts will have to l dream up a phoney plan. The food police now will have a hell of a problem walking back the BS on not eating meat. With tainted fish and sea life, lets see only chose is to either like, learn to like the taste of lawn grass, or eat bark and wood chips. So now we will eat more beef, pork, rabbit, or chicken. Which will put more federal welfare farmers back to work or get out, and save taxpayers at least 14 billion dollars a year, it will put several thousand people to work, learning where food comes from and there will not be attitude of I don’t get my fingers dirty, and end the girly boys metrasexuals crap.What citizens need to do, is when in public, bring up what a screw job the health care bill did to our coverage and what each will pay. Last night as we were waiting to get seated at a table, several people started going off about there isn’t any oil on shore in the USA. Gave them the 2 sites of all the oil, that is closer to the surface than the off shore drilling BS, and is in the interior of the USA . Point out also all the wonk aggencies that stopped smart people from doing proactive measures. The berms, the floating super suckers for oil recovery, which could have been on site in a few days, barges to pump it in to. It is a screw up that all can be laid, on the feet of Omoron and his bumkins, with EPA lurches and the alfabet agencies and their studies while Omoron was theorizing and scratching and picking , wondering what to do. This is not a damn class room exercise. If facts are known liberal dems and tree hugging moroons cann’t dispute facts.

  • Antonio

    JEFFH and ANTHONY hey guys great posts!!!! thank you very much for the info wow!!! Listen since we know that the Rothschilds, builderburg, and the trilateral commision are all screwing us what is it that we can do??? And now im beginning to believe that this oil spill is going to be there chance to enact martial law due to the socalled “disaster” Prepare yourselves.

    • JeffH

      Antonio, all we can do is regain control of our government and eliminate the Federal Reserve as a starting point…

      • Claire

        JeffH–Agreed.

      • Claire

        JeffH–Yes, we should abolish the Federal Reserve, but how? Most politicians will not stand against the Federal Reserve. The Fed has become too powerful. I hope I am wrong but I just don’t see how we can get rid of the Fed.

  • Al Duhan New Milford, Ct. 06776

    I wonder if Obama will return all the funds he received from B P. He received the most ever then any other president. I don’t know why because his EPA forced to drill in deep waters, knowing it was dangerous. No drilling in shallow waters, no drilling on land, and no drilling in the Alaska. This is why this happened, but we all know this is the excuse Obama was waiting for. This may have been planned and executed, what would cause an explosion that would bring this down. It must have been on the lower supports that were blown. Will we ever know or must we just assume. !!!!!!!!!!!!! Al Duhan

  • Antonio

    JEFFH and CLAIRE How should we gain control of this government??? How do we eliminate the Federal Reserve??? I feel helpless. But i promise that i will be a great soldier for freedom if you can give me some leads on how to stop the fed. they need to be stopped. I want to help. What do i do???

    • JeffH

      One step at a time…research your vote, vote then pray a lot.

    • Claire

      Antonio– JeffH gave a very good answer to your post. I will have to agree with Jeff. Pray a lot. Hopefully some good honest people will be elected.

  • Al Duhan New Milford, Ct. 06776

    Dave has no education, AND PROBABLY NOT A LEGAL AMERICAN. HE IS JUST REPEATING OTHER IDIOTS JUST LIKE (oBANGA EWVERYONE). A FEW MONTHS IS NOT 18 MONTHS WE DO USE ENGLISH HERE. THE IDIOT LYING KENYAN DON’T KNOW HIS ASS FROM HIS FACE. AND THAT IS WHERE HIS BRAINS ARE. THE PAYBACK FOR THE FUNDS REMOVED ALL THE REGULATIONS, THAT WAS WHY HE TOOK ALMOST 2 MONTHS TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM. HE DIDN’T WANT TO BITE THE HAND THAT FED HIM.

  • Christian American

    More government intervention such as that which caused oil companies to drill out in the ocean, 5000 feet down, instead in Alaska where it bubbles out of the ground. A system who’s very regulators are alleged to be guilty of bribes, while not enforcing proper oversight of the drilling operation.

  • Antonio

    JEFFH i dont think that the voting thing is working to well. I really believe that we need to start demanding things like filing law suits against the government for violating the constitution. I mean look, the constitution doesn’t permite congress to be using our money for things like food stamps, wic, and so on. It is unconstitutional and we should demand that they put a stop to it. It is unconstitutional we should sue them for that. Davy Crocket said “No, Colonel, Congress has no right to give charity. Individual members may give as much of their own money as they please, but they have no right to touch a dollar of the public money for that purpose. If twice as many houses had been burned in this county as in Georgetown, neither you nor any other member of Congress would have thought of appropriating a dollar for our relief. There are about two hundred and forty members of Congress. If they had shown their sympathy for the sufferers by contributing each one week’s pay, it would have made over $13,000. There are plenty of wealthy men in and around Washington who could have given $20,000 without depriving themselves of even a luxury of life. The Congressmen chose to keep their own money, which, if reports be true, some of them spend not very creditably; and the people about Washington, no doubt, applauded you for relieving them from the necessity of giving by giving what was not yours to give.” The 100 plus taxs that we pay today are unconstitutional. We should start demanding that they eliminate a lot of these taxes. Taxes are designed to keep the people down they have to go. WE should start suing the government untill they start abolishing these taxes. And, yes, the federal reserve as well has to go. Why is it so hard to prove that they are unconstitutional when it says so in the constitution????

    • JeffH

      Antonio, I don’t know what else to do…demand? All the demanding has done is fall on deaf ears…I would hope at this juncture in American history that another terrible lesson has been learned by the voters. If not then kiss the American dream goodbye and start planning where your next meal and water rations are coming from. Rome wasn’t built in a day and the rebuilding of an American constitutional republic won’t happen overnight either. We have to weed out the “communists” as we can.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    First – YES!! We need to be energy independent. But why does drilling have to be offshore? Is there not plentiful supply inland?? Say “YES” to drilling. Say “NO” to the flat earth/no growth environmental Marxists!!

    Secondly, why has BHO been so lackadaisical on this crisis? Instead of containing and cleaning up, this Kenyan socialist seems to only want to sue BP, and maybe put it out of business!! I’m tired of hearing of all the criticism of Bush’s response to crises. I.e. it was a few days after Katrina the liberals/democraps were whining. Some democraps even complained because it took Bush a few minutes to respond on 9/11/01. Well, what was he supposed to do – jump up and cause hysteria among the kids in the classroom? Even worse, some morons complain about Bush being in the school when it happened!! How was Bush, or any of us, to know at the time he arrived at that school what would happen to the WTC?? These drones and morons are so unreal!!
    Before lashing out at Bush, maybe they should look at their “Messiah’ POTUS and ask: how many vacations has he taken, or how much golf has he played since this crisis began some 7 weeks ago??!!

  • http://gmail i41

    EarlinQueens,in NY., Yes we have plenty of oil right in the USA. Check out the Stansbury Report on the Rocky Mountians done in 4-2006, there is over 2 trillion barrels of crude, some at less than a 1000′ down.Also check out Williston Basin Survey, which was discovered in 1951, lastest readings, is estimated to have over 500 billion barrels of crude. Both of these two pools have not included the natural gas that could be used. In the Williston Basin, it would last over 2000 years. USA uses 11.8 million barrel of oil a day, as usage in 2007 was, if it was increased to 15 million barrels, we would have over 2000 year supply. The strange thing a Canadian pipeline is passing through the feild on down to the gulf, so Canada can sell oil on the open market and send it on shipss. What is the Government wonks doing, not a damn thing, I called and emailed my Congress people and every state’s reps, that the piupeline passes through going to the gulf and asked why we aren’t sell our oil, to get out from under China holding our debt, guess what, haven’t heard a peep of any of the beltway boobs. Also read the US Geological Survey Report on these feilds. All drilling is less than a mile down, DUH! If the info could be despensed to the public, maybe there would be even more P–s Offed citizens at Omoron and the EPA and all the other paper chasing feel good wonks.

  • Steve

    Although O’Liar will probably have Holder file a suit against BP, (because the federal government will get the money, and they’re broke) I think he is just trying to pretend like he cares about something the majority of Americans care about.
    I would like to see a SUIT FILED against the O’ man to produce his Certificate of Live Birth, not the piece of crap that he posts online that any illegal alien can get.

  • http://nc.rr.co Margaret

    “These are the times that try men’s souls.” Truer words were never spoken. We are seeing not only the U.S. but the world suffer because we elected Barack Obama because we were more concerene in making ‘history’ instead of electing a man or woman who could lead this great nation because they were QUALIFIED”. This young jr senator from Ill. never had a piece of legistlation passed, never had anthing that showed he might be presidential material other than his long rhetorical speeches with NO LEGS! We are seeing the inrresponsible admin. who has their OWN’ agenda and is not listening to the American people. Some would say it’s all about a strong and domininant controlling govt which is built on controlling the lives of American people and a continious idealism of breaking the Independent spirit of the people for generations who stil think Democracy works if the government will get out of the way.

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