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Obama The Hitman: First A Cleric, Who’s Next?

May 24, 2010 by  

Obama The Hitman: First A Cleric, Who’s Next?

The administration of President Barack Obama has itself tied up in quite a knot.

The administration that opposes enhanced interrogations, that wants to treat terrorists caught both on the battlefield and in country as common criminals, that wants to try suspected 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed in a New York City courtroom, that read Miranda rights to the foreign-born underwear bomber right away but delayed it for hours for the naturalized citizen Times Square bomber, has targeted an American citizen living in Yemen for assassination.

Of course, since the United States government has a policy against assassination that’s not what it’s being called. But what else do you call the order designating American-born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as a target for a strike by a drone missile?

Awlaki is suspected by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of actively plotting violence. He is described in The New York Times as “a charismatic preacher who has said it is a religious duty to attack the United States.” The CIA says it believes Awlaki’s rhetoric inspired Times Square attempted-bomber Faisal Shahzad.

Of course Shahzad’s visit to Pakistan where he met with a member of an intelligence group with ties to the CIA surely had nothing to do with the bomb attack, but that is a topic for another day.

Whether Awlaki gets blown to bits by a Hellfire missile or shot in the head by a sniper, he’s dead and the U.S. government has become judge, jury and executioner.

To eavesdrop on Awlaki’s telephone calls the CIA—because of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA)—would first be required to obtain a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. But to target him for death the CIA only needed approval from the National Security Council (NSC).

As former CIA lawyer Vicki Divoll told The Times, “Congress has protected Awlaki’s cell phone calls. But it has not provided any protections for his life. That makes no sense.”

I wonder if Awlaki will be read his Miranda rights before the missile explodes, or will Attorney General Eric Holder wait until afterwards and read them over Awlaki’s bits and pieces.

But wait. That might not be a problem because some in Congress want to take away Americans’ guaranteed citizenship rights if they target fellow citizens with terrorist violence.

Senator Joe Leiberman (I-Conn.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said recently, “If you’re attacking your fellow Americans in an act of war you lose the rights that come with citizenship.”

And this is where it gets really sticky. The Obama administration has yet to call the Times Square bomb plot an act of terrorism. On the White House website it is referred to as the “Times Square incident.” Or, to paraphrase Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, it was a potential man-caused disaster.

We are no longer sliding down a slippery slope. Now we are cascading down a steep mountainside.

It began soon after 9/11 with the passage of the USA PATRIOT Act in the weeks following the attack. That act is already being used to strip U.S. citizens of their rights. Just ask Jose Padilla and Ashton Lundeby how that act is working out for them.

Now we have an administration that has shown a proclivity to use missile attacks from Predator drones to kill what it is calling insurgents or terrorists in Pakistan and Afghanistan—and killing innocents in the process—saying that it’s time to use them in a country we’re not currently at war with to kill an American citizen who hasn’t harmed anyone himself.

That same bunch doesn’t call planting a bomb in Times Square terrorism. But it warns that those who oppose its policies—and show their opposition by demonstrating and holding up signs outside the Capitol building and in cities and towns across the country—are potentially inciting attacks similar to Timothy McVeigh’s bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.

If they think the rhetoric of Tea partiers—or Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or whoever—is somehow inciting violence, how long is it before the administration starts authorizing drone missile attacks on them?

Apparently, all it takes to get on the CIA’s short list for a missile strike is for someone in the administration to decide you are inciting violence. That doesn’t bode well for a group that has drawn the ire of Obama, his administration, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Majority Leader Harry Reid, who are on record as considering Tea partiers, former military members and anti-healthcare reform protestors as Nazis and terrorists.

American citizens… beware… this administration thinks you’re more dangerous and deserve fewer rights than foreigners planting bombs on U.S. soil. And if you hear the far-off hum of an airplane or the whoosh of a missile being fired, run like Satan himself is on your heels.

But if you’re al-Qaida don’t worry. Holder will read you your rights and have a court appointed attorney standing by.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Lolita

    This is sick! This entire administration is anti-American and must be impeach! Cannot wait until 2012, this dictator is another hugo chavez!!! America MUST wake up! IMPEACH!!!!!!

    • knewborn

      Lolita, what are you referring to. You sound like a idiot, impeach for what? for protecting all Americans from terrorist? Are you a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer that think you have a right to destroy people here in the United States and then use our consitution to hide behind. You need to be exported!

      • Eyes

        Impeach for what? You MUST be kidding! I can think of 10 or 15 charges for impeachment off the top of my head. Think back —clear back to the presidential candidates’ debates. If you still think there are no grounds, then you weren’t listening!

        • Harald

          Wish you would elaborate!
          Don’t you get the purpose of this website? It’s fighting Obama.. with exaggerations, twisted logic. And you swallow it all! Sad,sad, sad.

          • American Citizen

            You Libs swallow everything Obama says and does without question. You didn’t bet him before you voted for him. Now we’re all paying the consequences.

          • American Citizen

            Typo – vet him.

          • http://none Jeff

            I agree with you Harold. This collumn was written for the sole purpose of discrediting Obama. What is this guy’s agenda? I am dismayed and horrified to think of what this guy’s America would look like. I don’t agree with drone attacks but to insinuate that Obama would attack Glen Beck or anyone else from the right-wind is nonsense. However he may take a page out of the Bush/ Cheney play book and discredit people like Mrs Plame’s husband and then go on and start an illegal war that kills thousands of Iraqis and American’s alike and costs the American’s a trillion dollars. The last administration was rendering people and torturing them and people have languished in prison for 7 years (many for being in the wrong place at the wrong time). Can you blame Obama for trying to give some of these people rights? The title of your article has a lot of nerve mentioning Obama and assassination in it. I would be far more likely to believe that some of the people you coddle or incite would be moved to extremism of the kind you describe. If you want to stop drone missile strikes and assassinations then contact your member of congress and ask him to stop it or start a campaign. I think this article like so many others is more about maligning Obama. If he was selling sunshine and blue skies you would be saying how bad that was and that every American has a duty to oppose this.

          • Deb

            You can start with the Job offer to Sestek. that is a felony offense. Of course one of his flunkies will just take the fall for him.

            Too bad you can’t impeach for lack of experience and the inability to to the job. The man-child should never have been elected.

          • PODVET

            reply to EYES,

            You are only one of a few who have been keeping informed on our political defamation by our so called elected officials and I too cannot wait fot 20012 so we can get rid of the socialists that are now inhabiting the senate, congress, and the white house

          • JeffH

            Jeff…no matter what you might want some of us to think, I think I understand where you are coming from. “I would be far more likely to believe that some of the people you coddle or incite would be moved to extremism of the kind you describe. If you want to stop drone missile strikes and assassinations then contact your member of congress and ask him to stop it or start a campaign”, that’s a crock and you full well know it.
            Calling a congressman (the good ones are far and few between) hasn’t stopped one of them from furthering their personal agendas up to this point! Can you say Health Care reform and call your congressman in the same breath without laughing out loud? Neither can I! Those that aren’t in bed with the Marxist president and his agenda for the complete radical change to socialism, third world status and being governed by the Globalists that control the world’s economy, are in fear of their future, whether it be in politics or not, or fighting this socialist takeover with what little resources they still have left, which is the American voters.

            I think we all know who the real extremists are that pose a threat to our country, our soverienty, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. They’re the ones just like you that can’t wait to persecute the good, patriotic Americans with your rhetoric and vitriol.

          • http://Patrickdavis3@mac.com Patrickcake

            And harald,
            no one would accuse you of cowbell liberalism!!

          • Cindy

            “Blue” Jeff;
            This site doesn’t discredit Obama. Obama doesn’t need this blog to discredit him. He is doing that rather nicely all by himself! Nice to see you liberals on here helping him out by showing your ignorance with every post….Thanks :-)

          • http://www.personalliberty.com Larry Johnson

            Let me tell you about Obama supporters, they couldn’t care less about the truth, they claim their leader, is the smartest man ever to be President, all the while, he refuses, to present any kind of proof to back up that claim. Obama is a coward and a fraud, and so are the thirty percent who follow him. I’m not afraid to say it, Obama is on course to destroy this country. He has no intentions of fixing anything, and the majority of you libs out there know it. Thirty percent of Americans, if we dare call them that, do not believe we have the right to free speech, or to bare arms, in my humble opinion you left wingers,are for anything, and everything immoral and crude. I could go on, and on with this, but you already know what I’m saying is true.

          • ceberw

            Larry:

            I’m wearing short sleeves and nobody has arrested me. So I guess I do have a right to ‘bare’ arms.

        • tim

          You people had Obama impeached, before he was even sworn in……….
          Bush’s lies, and deceipts, gets American Soldiers killed and dismembered………..

          But let’t impeach Obama………

          UNREAL!!

          • Voice of Reason

            Tim,

            You and your group of psycho liberals crack me up…. Why don’t you try doing some reading first and open your mind a little.

            http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=3255

            http://www.visiontoamerica.org/story/-obama-using-connecticut-social-security-number.html

            I don’t recall any of our past presidents using stolen SS#’s, and spending millions of dollars to cover their up their past. Maybe also try reading the NYT best selling book “The Manchurian President.”

            It is clearly obvious this man was groomed for this position and put in place.

          • rockinroll1064

            I know,it’s almost comical to hear some of the reasons these extreme right wing nutcases come up w/to impeach him.I don’t agree w/everything he is doing but he is a huge improvement over that retarded cowboy!If Obama acted the same way “W” did in the office,it would be Bastille Day all over again w/some of these loonies that are fuming from the mouth!

          • timr

            Hey Voice of Reason (obviously, a play on words)….

            Isn’t every candidate in both Parties, somewhat groomed, for the position……….

            After 8 years of “idiot”……..you people just crack me up……….

          • http://none Jeff

            Tim, I totally agree.

          • David

            Tim:

            In the “voice of reason” reply you received, he cited Western Journalism as his source for his anti-Obama rant. Western Journalism is a ultra-conservative “publication” run by Joseph Farah. Hardly a mainstream point of view with respect to critiquing President Obama.

            Your critique of “conservative” attacks on President Obama are right on!

          • MichelleO

            Being aCommunist should be enough…………….

          • skipfoss

            [Offensive post removed]

          • timr

            and welcome back, our TOP Bigot…….SkipFoss…….

          • Deb

            Why do liberals always assume that just because we don’t like Obama that we did like Bush?

            Absolutely Stupid. You seem to be stuck on Bush.

            I personally did not vote for either man.

          • Gary

            AMEN Tim

          • PODVET

            to tim,
            all gave some,some gave all, what have you given to protect our Constitution and our so called freedoms?

          • Norm

            tim
            Right on!
            And let’s not forget Bush’s brillient victory?? in Iraq. Last count there are more 90,000 american military and God knows how many civilian mercianeries and contractors still there. We really kicked their butts and saved the world. And alas the taxpayers pick up the check.

          • Stan B

            Tim the only thing thats unreal is every word that comes out of BUMA’s mouth is a lie, he is trying to destroy this country by spending us into the gound, so we will become a 3rd world country, and then GEORGE the commie SOROS and his gang of thugs want to take over our country, and if you don’t believe this then your just as bad as the radical marxist communist OBUMMA, he is no USA citizen, he worships chairman MAO who murdered 100 million of his own people, and if he believes that if he could get away with it, he’d do it to us in our country….I’m a veteran I loove this country and I fought to keep us free, this SOB wants to take over everything so he can be a dictator..All of his czars are all marxist, commie’s, he should be tried for treason, and throw him out of our country to china, thats where he belongs….

          • del

            has obummer pulled us out of Iraq? No! so I guess he is the one killing our boys now ain’t TIM!

          • timr

            Del,

            uou are right, Obama hasn’t pilled out of Iraq, and he should………
            As bad as I think Bush screwed up, it’s Obama’s war now, and he should start pulling people out……….

          • rwnut

            tim….Damn right we did! We had the little commie figured out when he spoke his first words! IMPEACH HUSSIEN OBAMA!

        • rockinroll1064

          everybody seems to be screaming for Obamas’ impeachment,I think it’s getting really silly and a lot of folks are really reaching for anything to justify the real reason they want him impeached,the color of his skin.Yes there are many things i disagree w/on some of his policies but not anything is close to an impeachable offense.there were a lot more reasons to impeach Bush but I never once yelled for his impeachment,I just waited patiently for 8 years,as the budget surplus turned to a huge deficit,his administration dropped the ball in Afghanistan and let Bin Laden go,he attacked a country that had nothing to do w/911(Iraq),took away rights of US citizens,gave huge tax breaks to the rich,bailed out irresponsible huge companies w/our tax $$$,spent too much of our $$$ on the war on marijuana,locked up over 60% of US citizens for the sale and use of pot,while violent criminals were let free,etc…the list is endless!

          • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

            Man you are such a revisionist. Bill Clinton was offered bin laden twice and refused. How do you think he’ll make out in this new one world government ? My guess is he’ll do pretty well and you will continue to sleep. Wake up nummy and do your home work. Or easier yet look around. Da

          • denniso

            Bob Livingston compares this administration going after terrorists to Obama going after tea party people and others who disagree w/ him.
            The rightwing complains that the Dems and now Obama are soft on terrorism and weak on defense…then Obama is critized by the rightwing for targeting terrorists.
            I don’t think we should be killing alleged terrorists in their homes
            unless there is absolute proof they are guilty of specific acts…their crimes cannot just be talking and whipping up anti American sentiment. We also wind up killing kids and women when we target homes or meetings and usually do more harm than good.

          • USAbootobama

            As you have shown yourself to be a racism person, not to ne confused as a racist it would seeem that you should read more history to know what some of us are intelligent enough to read and reflect on.
            Socialism has never worked anywhere it was tried. And it will not work here either. It would take away the liberies you have come to respect and live by. What we don’t need is anyone to come into the presidency of the USA and bring his Marxist and socialistic plans to destroy us here. This man is not capable of being the president ot the USA. He has lied and reneged on his campaign promises and done just the opposite. Closed-door meeting, telling his cohorts that the USA is a Muslim nation, and that we are stupid, selfish and more. This man’s genuine hatred of Americans is evident to us and we do not trust him. Trust will be his downfall. We don’t trust him and with reason. Opinion of him is proving to fall daily. We love our country and do not want anyone to change it. The change he professed is not what he is doing now. His disregard of the Constitutional law is traitorous. I won’t be sorry to see him go and it has NOTHING to do with race, color or sexual preference. If Martin Luthur King Jr had run for president as the first Negro president, I would have been proud to vote for him. His belief in God and country was genuine.

          • timr

            Hey Skipfoss,

            “White Trash Communist whore”………??

            That’s how you describe Obama’s mother??

            I feel sorry for you………You will get yours, someday, my friend……someday…………….(I’d love a shot at you)……..

          • JeffH

            timr, not only did you announce your racism “loud and clear” when you arrived at PLD, you still press on with it! Racism is terrible and unwanted yet the ignorant continue to use it as an excuse, and they all know who they are…in your case…don’t even play the “holier than thou” game…you’re no better than anybody else when it comes to using the race card.

          • Dennis Bartlett

            First, I’m an Independent and second I’m a fiscal and social conservative and third a Vet. For you to call this a racial matter you just don’t have a clue and that’s dangerous. Try informing yourself on what is really going on and stop listening to Olberman and Madoff. I’m not proud of either party and especially Progressives and Marxists turning our Country into a Communist dictatorship. It is surprising to me that people spout out hate without knowing the facts or care to. I didn’t “hate” the Cong or NVA but I do hate the so called President because he is the figurehead for a takeover of our Country. Wants to destroy the “NET”(free speech), take our guns, run us purposely into bankruptcy . An idiot spending the money Obummer has could create jobs. I’ve owned two successful business’s starting with nothing. You create jobs by bolstering small business’s, he has not. Gov’t does not make a dime, only spends it! I’m again dismayed at the lack of facts that you have and don’t care to. NWO is your cup of tea not mine. I fought for this Country , fly my Flag proudly and will fight again to keep my Country free. No one gets a free ride except leech’s . 43% of money earned is by business now and normally it is around 70% or better. The only jobs being created are Gov’t jobs and we can’t afford it! Who pays for it? Get your facts yourself and don’t rely on the mainstream media if you know how or have the initiative to do so!!!

          • denniso

            To all the people here who blather about Obama being a communist or marxist and then in the next breath shout about freedom and rights being taken away…first of all, Obama is neither a communist nor a marxist,and secondly,in a free country we are supposed to free to hold any political views,aren’t we? We’re supposed to free to be capitalists,socialists,communists,arch conservatives,even fascists.
            Some of you want to ammend the constitution to limit what political
            positions we can hold? Maybe you should move to Iran if you want to tell people what they can believe…next,you can work on telling all of us that we have to believe in a certain religion and that we’re unamerican if we aren’t Christian,or Muslim,or Hindu.

            Freedom means that everyone can believe what they want…pretty simple,no?

          • Bill

            Clinton is the one that let bin laden go. not bush.

        • David

          Name one! (Be specific now)

          • rockinroll1064

            Well for starters,Cheney,Rove,and W were involved in leaking classified info and exposing the identity of a covert CIA operative during wartime.Also ignoring urgent warnings of an Al Queada attack prior to 911.A lot of what happened during 911 was real fishy to say the least.Illegal wiretaps a violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act,which require court approval for wiretaps.Unaccountability when it comes to keeping tabs on the prisoners that were locked up at Gitmo and other places.A lot of innocent farmers got rounded up along w/”real”terrorist and ended up staying locked up for years.I am all for locking up terrorist indefinately,but for God sakes,keep track of why each prisoner is there!

          • Jeep

            Hey Rockhead! You must be talking about the “Plame Affair”. Even Novak knew she was just an analyst. But, I suppose the fact that Valerie was the chairperson representing the CIA did not “out” her either. You may want to get your facts straight. And, while some intel warnings were received prior to 911, do you think this administration would have handled it any better? What? Do you really think that British intelligence called and said, “Hey, they’re going to highjack a plane and ram it into the twin towers at 8 o’clock in the morning?” Get real. “Warnings” get passed along every day, some credible, others not so much. How’s your crystal ball working? And, really? You think that some of those guys at Gitmo were “just farmers”? Yeah, we like to send “farmers” to Gitmo, not “real” terrorists. Those clowns were well vetted, and deemed too dangerous to keep on the battlefield. Or, are you calling the military incompetent and not able to separate a farmer from a bad guy.

          • timr

            Rumsfeld was incompetent……THAT’s for sure…….and the rest of the Civlian leadership in the Bush Administration…………The miltary, as usual, were thrown into a MESS, and they had NO idea how to prepare for it………(Sounds like Vietnam, doesn’t it??)

        • Debo

          Eyes.
          You are a lunatic. Enough said.

      • looking4answers

        It is really important to think this through. Even though these people have comitted heinous crimes, or at least gave it their best shot…they are citizens of the United States of America. Unalienable rights are given by God and cannot be taken away by men without due process. To act otherwise leaves us all unprotected.

        If we allow the government to abrogate the unalienable rights of ANY American citizen, under any circumstances, no matter how we personally feel about them and what they did, who will stand in our defense when “THEY” come for us.

        The Department of Homeland Security and the current administration have already labeled us (anyone who openly disagrees with them, as domestic terrorists…

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Lulu

        newborn,
        you and your lib friends are like the citizens of N. Korea. Your leader is starving you while he lives in luxury but you still would fight for him at the drop of a hat. You are so innocent, and uninformed. Like sheep….. Try reading something useful or watch a real news show and not just realty shows. They are NOT real!

      • phil p

        knewborn you have got to be kidding… expert economists said that if our government did nothing in response to the economic crisis then employment would climb to 10%… HEY GUESS WHAT OBAMA HAS TRIPLED THE COUNTRIES DEFICIT AND INCREASED UNEMPLOYMENT RATES… OBAMA HAS NO BUSINESS BEING COMMANDER AND CHIEF OF OUR COUNTRY… I GUESS THATS WE GET FOR ELECTING A BLACK MAN… FREE HEALTHCARE FOR CRACK HEADS SHARING NEEDLES…OH BUT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO HEALTHCARE, WHEN THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING NOTHING TO SOCIETY AND IS RELYING ON HARD WORKING PEOPLE LIKE MY PARENTS AND MYSELF TO PAY THROUGH OUR TAX DOLLARS… DEMOCRATS JUST SUCK THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING APART OF THIS COUNTRY

        • http://none Jeff

          hey buddy, it is just chance that you are where you are and are not some crack-head sharing needles. If you grew up in a poor black neighbourhood chances are that is where you would end up. 1863 was the year that black people were emancipated but it was another 100 years before they were given any kind of real rights. Even then they had to fight for them. Have some compassion for your fellow man. I have no doubt you work very hard for your money and there is a lot of waste of taxpayers dollars but some people in life don’t get the same chances as others. For instance I saw Bill Clinton speak and he said a 17 year old black kid reads at the same level as a 10 year old white kid or something to that effect. A lot of young kids in poor neighbourhoods don’t have a lot of opportunities. They join a gang and end up making 5.00 an our and have a 1 in 4 chance of being murdered. I don’t blame you for blaming them because it is human nature to not understand another person’s horrible predicament. Maybe we are making the fundamental attribution error when we think others are bad people and that is the reason they are crackheads and they deserve the misfortune that befalls them. The fundamental attribution error is when I am late for work I think it is due to circumstances beyond my control but when you are late for work, I think it is a flaw in your character. It is a very insidious bias and I think it goes a long way to explaining partisanship in politics. For instance why I don’t like Bush and you don’t like Obama.

          • Reverseproof

            I disliked the last four years of the Bush administration. He became a Democrat. I absolutely hate Obumma and his change I could never believe in. Also, I am not real sure I even like you. If you can’t see the light in the room, turn it on, you might see the truth……

      • Penny

        Nice. Lolita makes a comment that you don’t agree with so you resort to calling her an idiot?!! It is you that needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

      • http://ronyvo@yahoo.com Bill

        Wake up, newbborn,
        We have a terrorist in the White House.
        Obama is Muslim. You must have known that by now.
        Islam is our enemy. You know that, don’t you?
        It is a shame and disaster that we camee to that level of ignorance and unpatriotism.
        What is our army doing in Iraq and Afghanistan? Bring our brave soldiers back home. We need them heare to protect us from our perfidious politicians.

    • Alvin

      Putting it lightly you are a joke.Calling a man anti-american and he should be impeached. The man and his family love this country. Maybe it you who is anti american. Where were you when Bush was detroying this country probaly somewhere sleep. You are a prime example how costly uneducated people are. I wish it was a way to give people like you a one-way ticket out of this country.

      • tim

        Alvin, this country has gone MAD………..

        They wanted Obama out of office, before he was even sworn in…….

        And your’e right……..America is looking stupid to the World, with this right wing rhetoric………..(not that “W” didn’t make us look stupid)

        • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

          You cowbell liberals make me sick. Do some research. In stead of sitting around making smarmy comments.

          • timr

            (comment removed for offensive content)

          • rockinroll1064

            Maybe you can lead by example?

        • Steve

          Yep, and Obama bowing to every foreign king, sultan and dignitary doesn’t make us look stupid, does it?
          He is so pathetic it won’t surprise me when the day comes that the Obummer man walks into Burger King with his kids, and bows to the B.K. “King”
          I’m just waiting for him to bow to Kim Jong Ill, Vladimir Putin, or Macmoud Amadimijad. Then, the game will be over, and America will soon after be a memory.

          • timr

            Like Bush……..holding hands……….with the Saudi Prince……..????

            Getting worked up over Obama “bowing: to a Japamese Premier, is childish………..flat out, childish…….

            Is that the best you can do……??……Is America the ONLY Country on Earth????…….Should just HATE every other Country??……….

            You people sound SO fricken “Bumpkin” when talking about the world, and International Relations……………..

            Get educated you inbred, Morons………..

          • JeffH

            Gee timr, you have used those exact words before…wouldn’t you rather live in a country that you’d be happy in rather than this nasty, hatefull America with all of us nasty, hatefull patriots?

            Think about it and get back to me…I’d be more than happy to start a fund for your travel to “somewhere else” besides America.

          • timr

            JEFFH, there is plenty wrong with America, but, it’s YOU people who are claiming it’s almost GONE…………

            I’ll stay right here, thank you……….

          • JeffH

            bringing in the sheep
            bringing in the sheep
            Obama stands rejoicing
            bringing in you sheep

          • Cindy

            Timr will only stay until our tax money runs out for his welfare checks and food stamps. Apparently he doesn’t know time is short for him with all the illegal aliens robbing his cash cow.

      • http://none Tzion-Ben-Judah

        I do not advocate terrorism but should I be sent away from my beloved America because I think Obama is a fake who wormed his way into office by lieing to the American people about his citizenship.I think not.You sir are qwick to judge.You do not have all the answers and are ignorant about Obama and his cronies in Washington.They have an agenda and we who love this country patrioticly are not part of their equation.You must then be a liberal to the teeth to believe the Obama LIE.This is the same man who stood in Rev,Wrights so called church and listened to him cut down America over and over again and said a big AMEN each time.I could write a book on Mr.Obama because the list goes on and on about his spotless record.No thank you.I may have been born at night but it wasn’t last night.Kick me out of my own country?Better bring an army .You will have need of one.Shalom in spite of my disagreement.

        • timr

          Why does lie, because he isn’t fooled by the State of Israel?????

          • Mick for thought

            timr,
            Your points would carry more weight if you refrain from joining the name calling. Have you ever seen a screamer listen?

            Saw one of your comments was removed because of content; not good. If you want to be a reasonable voice of liberalism in this blog cool down a bit.

            I am sitting here on the fence watching both sides scream and fling the crap at each other while a few intelligent cool heads are speaking across the fence to one another. Join the conversation.

        • Gary

          Not a Citzen are you kidding you lost get over it. You say he wormed his way into office which is a joke when Bush got slected
          not elected in Florida and the court handed Bush the White House and that is FACT. There are peole like you who know nothing about the Bush family you just keep bitching and bitching. Now you have the internet look up prescott Bush and his dealing with Hitler.
          Look up what the Bush familydid to the savings and loans in colorado how they walked away rich and the hard working people lost everthing and guess what the tax’s payers got stuck paying that bill also and where were all you people then. Obama is black and never in the history has the Republican turned everything down and lie and they screamed like monkeys when they lost and the health care got passed.
          Then there are people bitching about bailing out GM. Man these people would rather have thousand of people on the unemploymt list instead of working and paying tax’s. Take the time to look up skull and bones and the bush family you might learn something that will surprise yo.
          Bushs tax’s cuts cost more then the health care reform that the tea party are bitching about.

          • Right Wing

            Gary, try spell check, thought check, and fact check. You get a zero on all three. I have said it before and will say it again…we get it that liberals did not like Bush. Bush is gone so get past it. Now we have a silver tongue salesman in office that proves to me how much of a figurehead the presidency really is. He acts like he is driving the bus but believe me he will only be the next to be thrown under it. If we can agree on one thing then maybe we can move past the Bush issue. Kleptocracy is the main issue that most conservatives and liberal should be able to agree on. Can we start there? I mean the guy accepted responsibility for Katrina and that was the end of that. All of the world’s problems started and now end with Bush so what else do you have?

          • ebb

            I’ve read all the comments and find that most of the comments are typical. If a negative comment about Obama then the liberals start with if you think Obama is bad look at George Bush. The blame Bush for every inadequacy of Obama is getting old. Bush may have done alot of things we didn’t approve of but you need to stop and start placing the blame with Obama. You have lost the argument when all you can do is call names and blame Bush.

            As far as impeachment, there are several reasons that it could be done if we had couragous Senators. But as was reading these comments above I did realize that noone really wants to listen to the other side and that is the reason we have reached this point in time.

        • http://yahoo jim

          God is the only one who can give shalom “peace” when you look to man especially the polititions no matter which party the only thing you can be sure of is disapointment.Look to God seek his will to understand these perilous times

      • craig

        Alvin, you sound like you indeed have the brain of a Chipmunk! Anyone with one brain cell can see that Obama is no lover of this country, it’s Constitution or its freedoms. Why does he spend money traveling all over the world denigrating this nation at every stop. Why is he steering us toward Godless Socialism, why does he want to control everything. why does he continuously lie, why is he weakening our armed forces and also homeland security. I could keep going and going and never be able to outline all the reasons he has no love for this country!

        • timr

          Craig…….you are a blind loyalist, who thinks this Country has no faults whatsoever……..

          The World HATED us, and pulled back their support when your idiot, “W” went into Iraq, which still goes down as the biggest Foreign Policy catastrophy in the the last 100 years………..and Obama had to repair friendships all over the world…….Countrys who have been our friends, who have shed blood with us in Wars, and all you “challenged” conservatives want us to do, is kiss Israel’s A$$……….and Saudi Arabia’s….A$$…………..

          Is all you want from your President, someone who praises God, and waves the Flag and wears a Cowboy hat?????????

          In that case, elect Roy Rogers…………..

          He’s the prsident of the United States…….not the head cowboy in Crawford……………

          • MichelleO

            That Tiem is the biggest bunch of [offensive word removed] I have ever heard, he is makin friends with the wrong people Hamas for one and tearing down one of our oldest and loyalest allies in history Isreal, go shouvel your [offensive word removed] somewhere else you lying pig

          • Claire

            Good grief.

        • http://none Jeff

          Craig when Bush was president the world’s disdain for america was at an alltime high. Bush’s policies brought america to the brink of world war 3. If not for the election of Obama I fear that the world and america were headed for a collision course. Obama being elected was great for america and the world because it gave people hope. If McCain had of been elected I’m afraid what would have happened around the world because of the backlash. People believed that there would be a change in Washington. Sadly many things are still the same but Obama is not denigrating america, he is re-establishing it as a responsible and respectable superpower for good. Godless socialism? Sorry but socialism has a lot to do with God. If Jesus were president do you not think he would want to provide the basics for people in life who cannot for whatever reason provide for themselves things like food, shelter and healthcare? I think Godless capitalism is a bit more appropriate. I don’t believe Obama is lying and as for not loving America even after all the death threats he has received you would be hard-pressed to find a man who does not love his country more.

          • http://Patrickdavis3@mac.com Patrickcake

            Either stop lying or give some proof.

          • WarriorH

            In case you haven’t notice Jeff, the administration is going after Glenn Beck and everyone else that disagrees with their policies. And by the way, how do you like the faith based initiatives pouring out of the democratic leadership these days? What ever happened to separation of church and state?

          • Stan B

            Jeff if you want to live in a communist country pls go to china and bring king OBUMMA with you, you are, tell me did you ever finish first grade ????? I don’t think so…

          • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

            Jeff,
            It seems that you have a big need to apologize to the rest of the world for all of this countries sins. I guess you were born after world war 2 and have no understanding of this countries history. You and obambi. Look up the Marshall plan and other great deeds that this country has done for the world. The Europeans all hide under their beds until we give re-assurance that things will be okay. I don’t give a fat rats ass when the leftist American news media distorts the greatness of this country. I don’t want my president going around the world apologizing to everyone for this countries supposed faults. If you have such a problem with us then pack your bags and move. Maybe you want your president to bow to the Saudi king and others. He couldn’t even get it right with the queen of England. He had the arrogance to give her an I-pod with all of his speeches and then insulted her and the English people by giving her movies on video in the wrong format. Why didn’t he bow to the queen. He also needs a lesson in geography. He re-marked in a speech while he was campaigning that he’d been to 56 states and only had one left. Keep sticking up for him you moron.

      • MichelleO

        Alvin this man has surrounded himself with Communist, his mentor was Frank Marshall Davis a Self avowed communist, William Aires,. Burnadette Dron both known Terrorist against the United States ,Obama has run all over the world apoligizing for the United States and is a Racist SOB to the Core just like his so called Reverend and I use the term loosley Wright, from the United Church of Black Theology Whos the Racist here now, You stupid Libs wouldnt know the truth if it hit you in the face, go wait for your welfare check and shut the hell up, no one here want to listen to your America Haten Retoric, go to Huff Post where your stupid comments will be tolerated with the same hate America Like minded people

      • PODVET

        to alvin,

        If he and his family loive this country, then why does he distain his oath of office?

      • Stan B

        Alvin your the biggest joke of all, OBUMMA doesn’t love this country, and neither does his wife, they both are communist, so was his mother, father, gra;ndfather, vallie Jarrett, Van Jones,all of his czars are either marxist, communist, or crazy insane idiots nut heads rev wright marxist, George Soros do you want me to keep on going ??? are you one of these free loaders that does’nt work just put your hand out because this country owe’s you a living, do you want to live in a marxist or communist country ???? well I don’t he’s a piece of garbage that should be thrown in a dump for china to pick up, by the way I’m not a racises, I’m a patroit veteran 8yrs in the USAF, I love this country, so don’t tell me that communist jerk does, he makes me sick…Why does he hide all of his papers, so far he’s spend over 1.4 million dollars to keep them hidden, I wonder why ???? Do you know ???

    • http://joeaeverson@hotmail.com Joe A. Everson

      Top US Spy Chief Quits After Obama Orders 2 Americans Assassinated
      By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
      An interesting Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report prepared for Prime Minister Putin circulating in the Kremlin today states that Obama’s top spy chief Admiral Dennis Blair abruptly resigned on Friday after the US President ordered the “immediate assassination” of an anti-government dissident and his 16 year old son in the US State of Arkansas.
      This SVR report, however, states that upon nearing the roadblock Kane and his son came under fire from US military snipers targeting them for assassination whereupon fire was returned from Kane’s vehicle allowing them to escape death but resulting in the other police officers deaths.
      After escaping, this report continues, a “furious” Admiral Blair called the White House to “demand” an explanation of what was occurring only to be “firmly rebuffed” by Obama officials who had set up this assassination plot causing Blair to “angrily retort” he would have nothing more to do with Obama and his resignation would be on the President’s desk “as soon as I write the ******* thing up”.

      • http://joeaeverson@hotmail.com Joe A. Everson

        Also interesting to note in this SVR report is that earlier in the week another American anti-tax dissident group named [delete for US-EU report] located in Williamsport, Pennsylvania was assaulted by United Nations troops (UN) allowed to operate in the United States by Obama and destroyed the entire facility with an explosion so loud it was heard throughout the region.

        Though not reported by the mainstream propaganda US media, the existence of this UN assault convoy roaming rural Pennsylvania this past week was reported on by their dissident news reports, and as we can read as reported by one of them named InfoWars.Com:

        • Sandra

          Good posts Joe!

    • http://yahoo.com Sue C

      Lolita! You are like all of us, just gullible! We all swallowed the stinking Bob Livingston’s FALSE ALARM! I don’t believe anything he says anymore, because, he does this just to create issues, that will cause simpletons, like you, and myself, to fall for his FIBS. THERE WAS NO HIT JOB, AS HE SAYS! THAT’S STUFF THAT WHITE MAN DOES TO IMMIGRANTS, ON THEIR JOBS! I WAS A VICTIM OF THE STUFF SO OFTEN, THAT I CAN SMELL IT, SIX MONTHS BEFORE IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.

      BOB LIVINGSTON HAS A JOB, AND HE DOES VERY WELL AT FALSE ALARMS, AND MOST OF THE TIME, HE TRIES TO CLOBBER PRESIDENT OBAMA. THAT ALSO IS ANOTHER WHITE MAN’S WEAKNESS. THEY LIKE TO SMEAR PEOPLES’ NAME, AND WILL GIVE YOU A BASKET TO FETCH WATER.

      LOLITA! IF YOU ARE EMPLOYED, SPEND MORE TIME ON MAKING YOUR APT/HOUSE INTO A HOME, AND LOOK AFTER THE THINGS THAT WILL BENEFIT YOURSELF. LEAVE BOB LIVINGSTON, WITH HIS MINDLESS LITTLE GAMES, AND AT SOME TIME, HE WILL CONK OUT, WITH THEM. ALL THE BEST!

  • HFlashman

    I’m trying to figure out what Lolita iscomplaining about? Other than anti administration. They read Miranda to those arrested on US soil or controlled airspace as is required by the Constitution and past SC rulings. This adheres to our Consitution. They target for killing a terrorist overseas who is actively engaged in killing US soldiers and us here in the US. That is an acceptable act of war.

    I will agree with the article about the unPatriot Act which shyould be marked for its own death should we get the Big Money interests out of Congress and wrest control away from the Elite and Big Corporation hierarchy which was handed the keys by the former administration.

    So the question remians…Lolita, just what the heck are you yelling about?

    • http://www.rononthespot.com Ronald Nuckles

      Hang around long enough, remove your head from the dark side, I am sure why she is yelling will come to you.

      • Harald

        Lolita has too much time and is yepping away to support what she is being fed by this website. Way to go, rednecks!

        • JeffH

          Harald, perhaps you can give us your unbiased definition of your racist slur, “rednecks”? I wouldn’t expect an answer from a Marxist/communist/socialist supporter such as yourself…perhaps you are another traitor amongst the ranks of the hard core leftist liberals wreaking havoc against the American people?

          • timr

            JeffH……..it’s YOU and your cronies, who are traitors………after all, it was YOUR Rove, who outted a CIA agent, wasn’t it…….???

          • di

            Good, Jeff, there are too many liberal, Marxist, Commie trollers on this blog site. Here we are trying to save our country, our constitution and our freedoms and in walks these saboteurs! You tell ‘em guy!

          • JeffH

            timr, we’ve seen your resume already and I prefer my “patriotic” resume over a traitors anyday.

        • timr

          Jeff, patrioism to you, is waving the Flag…….

          There’s more to it than that…………Why don’t you volunteer your useless time to someone in need……………

          Or would that be considered Welfare???????

          Your patriotism is Shallow, just like the Tea Partyers………

          John McCain was a Patriot…….and Rove ate him alive in 2000.

          Hohn Kerry was a patriot……..and again, Karl Rove hired sell-out veterans to discredit him………….

          Max Cleland lost arms and legs in Vietnam………..they called him un-patriotic when he was against going into Iraq

          Chuck Hagel, a former Senator from Nebraska, a Republican, was called un-patriotic for trying to stopPresident Bush from going into Iraq……..

          so why don’t you be careful JeffH, before you throw that term around……….

          find out it’s REAL meaning before you open your mouth and qyestion others’ patriotism………

          • JeffH

            timr, all I can do is laugh out load at your feeble attempt to deprive me of my right to be a patriot. Yeah, waving the American flag is far more patriotic than waving your “red” flag. Why would helping someone in need be considered a measure of patriotism? So timr, as I wave my flag and salute the vetrans and our flag on Memorial Day, I’ll also be thinking about stopping you and your ilk from your attempt at removing my freedom to do so and thank the good lord for all of the patriots that wave the same flag that I do.

            GOD BLESS AMERICA and all of the PATRIOTS that support America! They know who they are.

          • Cindy

            timr, aka tim aka Tim

            Your communist rhetoric stunk up the blogs last week and still does now. Your one pizz poor excuse for an American. Oh wait, let me rephrase that. YOU ARE A COMMUNIST “LIVING IN AMERICA”, but not an American by any stretch of the imagination!

          • timr

            JeffH,

            Defend your party attcking Veterans, during campaigns…….
            You CAN’T…………

          • timr

            ……..your’e a(offensive words removed) so don’t claim to know me………..

            I feel sorry for the man in YOUR life……..poor guy……….

          • JeffH

            timr, still trying to make chicken salad out of chicken dukey.

            timr says:
            May 25, 2010 at 6:45 am
            JeffH, Defend your party attacking Veterans, during campaigns…….
            You CAN’T………???

            Well timr, jut what party am I defending and who’s “attacking veterans”? Desperate men say desperate things!

            You liberal hacks do have one very glaring similarity…at least try to get it somewhat close…impossible I know, but at least try!

          • Cindy

            timr
            So is that suppose to hurt my feelings? LOL sorry pal, you’re a little too far off kilter to bother me. Your childish uneducated attempts only serve to amuse me……..

    • Infidel

      ‘Controlled Airspace’?

      When was that around when they wrote the Constitution???

      Way to try to keep class envy alive though. ;]

    • James

      Why is it always big bad corporations? Why not big bad labor unions who are the funding source for socialism? Who never help anyone but are basically mafia “protectors” of American labor who always pay the dems to keep this extortion going legally.

      • timr

        James…….
        Labor Unions got very powerful and had corruption……one can’t deny it.

        But the Labor movement gave the American Worker everything they have now, from 40 hour work weeks, to overtime pay, to benefits, to Family leave, and so on…………

        But, you don’t have to worry, because the big Corporations, who have YOUR interest in mind, my friend, now wield all of the Power…….

        Less than 9% of all American workers are in Unions now…….

        And, guess what James……..we’ve seen that Salaries stay stagnant or go down, not keeping with inflation, for over 30 years now………while CEO pay has jumped 400%………..

        You must be a CEO………..

        • http://none Jeff

          great points Timr

          • WarriorH

            So please explain why there are union employees and union involvement in government? After all it’s the government we’re talking about.

        • Mick for thought

          much better post than some of your previous.

      • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

        I was in several of labor unions and can tell you that if this open vote passes only family members or close friends will get into these unions. My dad and uncles had to sponsor me into the teamsters. And if you are member of the ibew you don’t have to work just show up get your pin and then go in and go to sleep. Saw it with my own eyes when they built two of the six flags parks in Georgia and mid-america. These unions worked in the beginning but they are dinosaurs now and completely full of corruption. Try to get into IATSE. You can’t unless you are sponsored. Try to get into the teamsters you can’t unless you’re sponsored. It’s called keeping it in the family. Sorta what Obambi is doing with the teachers unions and car unions etc,etc,etc

        • timr

          Pat, you have NO clue, about the History of Labor Unions……..

          First of all, they were more corrupt in the 1950′s and 1960′s…….they don’t even yield much power anymore………..

          Has it ever occured to you, that Union bashing Corporations, are the reason why Corporations have all of the power now, while the Worker is silenced????

          If you have time, go look up, the advancement of workers’ salaries, as ith relates to inflation the past 30 years…………..and then, look up how the Corporations now, run countries……and their CEO’sget windfalls, even whe their Company is going under…………

          You Choose, Pat……….do you want workers to have a voice, or do want to keep bending over, and taking it, from these Companies……….

          What you have to realize, is that, at one time workers AND upper management made money and increased their worth……..THAT is how we got the Middle class……….

          Now, take a look at what’s happening to the middle class now???????

          Read up a little bit, on the history of the American worker and the Labor Movement……..you’d be surprised at what you find……..

          It wwasn’t Corporate America, that got you the 40 hour work week, or the benefits, back them………..

          Read a little History, my friend…….

          • http://Patrickdavis3@mac.com Patrickcake

            Yes and the Cadillac health and retirement plans that those lovely unions have aren’t going to help bankrupt this country! It certainly didn’t have much to do with the bankrupt state of California. How many unions have you been in? I’m in several. If it didn’t say union in front of it you’d call it welfare. The 50′s and 60′s were the beginning of the corruption. Dave beck was the president of my local in Seattle(174) before he became the international president and before he went to prison for corruption. I’ve walked my share of the picket lines from Seattle to Vegas as member of the IA. Be careful of what you speak Mr. Historian. You need a lesson on Jimmy call me. Tell me about the. Most frequent visitor to the Obama whitehouse. I believe he is the president of SEIU Andy Stern. It’s rumored is stepping down. This way he won’t be so visible. He can work behind the scenes with Mr. Jones and friends. Remember Van is the guy that loves Glenn Beck.

          • timr

            PatrickCake,

            I’ve never denied that some Unions were corrupt……..
            What about Wall street, what about the Laws that favor corporations??

            The 50′s and 60′s were the most prosperous time in America……..it built the Middle Class…………and you people think there is no need for collective bargaining…….or representation……Who’s speaking for working americans, now……….NO ONE……….

            Well, you’ve Won……..Middle america’s wages have stayed put, and your Lovely Corporations have done quite well………

            Congrats!!!

        • http://yahoo.com marc

          Very well said. Truth is a heavy hammer.

    • Doug

      Big Corporation hierarchy which was handed the keys by the former administration. Now thats funny radicals and the unions big wigs have chairs & parking spots with their name on it at Washington and spend more money to get what they want then any corporation at least big business does not have the keys to the WhiteHouse!

      • http://none Jeff

        of course big business has the keys to the whitehouse. They don’t need keys though because they work for Goldman Sachs or Haliburton and then become vice-president or work for the federal reserve or the treasury. they don’t have the keys to the whitehouse…ha ha ha. They got trillions of dollars as a thankyou for screwing everyone with subprime mortgages and all the market bubbles they have helped engineer. The biggest joke is the federal reserve. Is that not extortion, money-laundering and fraud. That is a racket that americans have to pay the “federal reserve corporation” to borrow their own money. Business makes the keys to the whitehouse and gives out copies to people who are going to give them more money and power. Let’s hope Obama or his predecessor can change things. Now there is a law that corporations are like people and can give as much to a campaign as they want. Goldman will be the next president with Haliburton as vice president (whoever they donate the most money to to do what they want). Isn’t that a conflict of interest? God speed america! I hope you can change course. I am a concerned Canadian.

        • http://none Jeff

          sorry not his predecessor but the person who follows him

        • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

          Jeff,
          Well that explains it, you’re Canadian. Please stay there.

        • Cindy

          Yeah Jeff,changing course is what we’re trying to do, before obama leads us down the socialist path, which is exactly where you Canadiens already are.

        • timr

          Jeff from Canada,

          Your’e right about Cheney and Haliburton…….

          The Right tends to forget THAT part of history……..they hire all of their “pals” to go into Iraq, and take over the Country, and then they can’t account for 9 billion dollars…….and then, they have the unmitigated “GAUL”, to talk about Government waste……….

          It floors me, it really does……..all of the buying of Legislation (by Both parties)……..and then the Supreme Court gives Corporations more power, as if they needed anymore.

          You NEVER, never, hear these Tea Baggers complain about THAT, but the minute a President wants to help 45 million americans, who have NO health insurance………THEN, they take-to-the-streets………..

          Phonies, that’s who these people are…………they have 8 years of possibly the most incompetent President in our History, and they are whining about Obama………….??

          Well, Obama is challenging the establishment, not giving a rat’s rear end, if he ticks off Wall Street, or the Insurance Companies……..

          I wish he would do alot more of this, because the SAME people have held control in this Country for far too long…………..(and, they are pretty much ALl white anglo-saxon cronies, who don’t want this to change)…………

          I agree with ONE thing the Tea Party says……..Let’s vote everyone out of office in Congres and start all over………Then, the Lobbyists wouldn’t know where to turn to……..

          Oh, and you might have noticed, that they scream at Government, but NOT these money-grubbing Lobbyists…………

          • http://none Jeff

            good points Timr. It is really tough for all americans right now. People need to examine their existing assumptions and listen to each other carefully and look for common ground and not the high ground. I’m as biased as the next person. There are a lot of passionate people on here that love their country and feel helpless watching it go down the drain (hopefully it is just becoming stronger), both republican and democrat. I think the real enemy is our stereotypes and resentment of one another for having different beliefs. It is the people that go to great lengths to understand the other’s viewpoint that may be able to change things for the better and help build consensus and momentum for positive change in the wasteland that is politics today. For the guy that said, I did not pass grade one, I did but not for several years.

  • Joe Myrick

    The Cleric must have turned on Obama, or is the hit a real order ??? We know that Obama is a clever liar, & a habitual one. He simply cannot be trusted in any matter whatsoever. Shame on we the people for turning on our heavenly father to elect such an awful character into such a high place. It is a revelation of our relationship with our God & father Jehova. Our people were made delusional with such great ease.

    • tim

      Joe,

      Keep your religion out of this, will you???

      didn’t the Jehovah witnesses predict the end of the World 10 times already???…………and they were WRONG……10 times……..

      • sheryl

        You are exactly what Joe is talking about, Tim. He said nothing about Jehova Witnesses, and if you were God-loving, you would know that Jehova is another name for God our Father. Same as the Alpha and Omega, Rose of Sharon,Son of God

        • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

          If you look up Petrus Galatinus on your computer you will learn that the Catholic Church now confirms that he(Petrus, a Roman Catholic Priest) made a translation error and it should have been translated Yahweh, not Jehovah(Note: Hebrew is the only inspired text by the way and it does not even have a “J” in it’s alphabet)! This error was made in 1522, I believe by Petrus! PS: If you accept the Catholic Church that is as the creator of Christianity, which it is according to history, then obviously being a “Christian” and worshiping “Jesus” also is fine, especially after Pope Leo the 10th, I believe, told Petrus to come up with a name for the “savior” that honored the highest Greek Deity, “Zeus”! The 3rd Commandment? By the way, America is from the seed of Joseph, which was given the Name Israel and not Judah, which was given “grace”(the promise of the coming Messiah)! If you look at Deuteronomy 17:15 you’ll also find the Israel absolutely is forbidden from appointing a “foreigner”(non-Israelite) over them! Oops! Nothing has changed about 6,000 years and we continue to reject our true creator’s laws! Look for the two-witnesses coming to judge Israel for 3 1/2 years, which is called Ya’aqob’s(Jacob’s) trouble, perhaps, as early as on September 9th, the Feast of Trumpets? Watch!

          • JEAN

            WOW! We just studied this in Church

            They wanted change.Wait till it hits them.

          • American Citizen

            It depends upon the author which name was used.

        • timr

          Sheryl, I stand corrected……….
          but usually only Jehovah witnesses refer to God as Jehovah……..

          And my Bro is jehovah, so I know what they stand for……it’s pretty scary……….

          • Norm

            timr
            Anybody who would let they’re kids bleed to death because they have some twisted notion about blood tranfusions can’t be all there. I hope it’s heaven they encounter in the afterlife but I lean toward hell.

          • del

            please educate us on what they stand for

          • timr

            Norm,

            Your’e exactly right………NO Blood transfusions for them whether they are dying or not………..

          • JeffH

            timr…here we go again…NO BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS?
            Try to speak without inserting foot in mouth!

            Jehovah’s Witnesses Accepting Blood Transfusion
            Lee Elder, Director
            Associated Jehovah’s Witnesses for Reform on Blood
            2009

            That Jehovah’s Witnesses have refused life saving transfusions of certain products from blood is well known and documented in medical literature. It is also documented within the medical community that Witnesses have accepted transfusions of whole blood and other products from blood forbidden by the religion’s leadership. The reason for this acceptance is simple: the population of Jehovah’s Witnesses has never fully assented to the organization’s religious
            position on blood.

            It is a myth that all Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse blood transfusion. Many members of this religious
            community do not believe it wrong to accept blood transfusion therapy.

            http://www.ajwrb.org/Jehovah_s_Witnesses_Accept_Blood_Transfusion.pdf

    • knewborn

      Joe you are another idiot. We are to be protected by our government, people like you need to leave America. You stupid haters have the nerve to make a comment like that and have the nerve to live here. The one thing about “Freedom Of Speech” idiots like you say whatever you want to but won’t leave. If you don’t like what is going on in America go somewhere else fool!

      • Julep

        Knewborn,
        I don’t understand why you bother to read these articles with your political viewpoint. You and others really know how to sling that Constitution around to support your arguments. Why don’t you try reading it without the added b.s.?

        • Bob Wire

          Well, hmm? since we are considering a clergyman, let’s just focus on his beliefs and actions. I see little to gain to pontificate your own. These people conduct themselves in criminal fashion and violate civil laws making them subject “rules of engagement” and matters of state concern.

      • PragmaticSort

        No, freedom of speech is exactly why we tolerate people like you. You have the right to be wrong and we will defend your right to the death.

      • The Kid

        Protected by our Government? LMAO! Yes, they are doing such a fine job on the border. And 4 terrorist attacks in this admin (that WE know of), 2 of which were successful, and 2 that didn’t occur ONLY due to operator error. Haven’t acted yet on the oilspill, except to blame BP. Let the Mex pres run down the country on the FLOOR of Congress. And for dessert, piss off the ONLY friend we have in the Middle East. Yes, thank GOD the gov protects us!

        • Cindy

          All good points. Pretty smart for a kid ;-)

          • rwnut

            Cindy…I love it. And the Kid has it right!

      • Beepster

        You want the gov’ment to protect ya? You want it to also furnish food, lodging, cars, etc, also while ya just relax on your couch?? You’ve never heard of “Protect yourself”? I rely on the gov’ment to do two things (whichever party in in control): Tax me while I’m living, and tax me when I’m dead.

      • MichelleO

        AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Harald

      Go back to church! Pls!

    • Pat R

      Joe:

      Obama thinks he can do anything he wants to since the CIA is protecting him. The CIA has all of his personal info and records sealed (or destroyed). Obama was or still is a CIA operative.
      That is why he and his administration act the way they do. “Nobody can
      touch me”
      Someday they will P@ss the wrong bunch of people off and they will find out differently! “No-one is untouchable forever!” Not even the evil George Soros who is running the US at this time.

    • rockinroll1064

      Backup your claims w/examples!

  • http://BobLivingstonNewsletters Patsy Despain

    Quite interesting 2 say the least. I’m somewhat bewildered that someone hasn’t already put a hit out on R new Pres.

    What will these people take away from us REAL American’s next?

    Obviously they should B God back in OUR COUNTRY B4 we hit the bottom of that mountainside we R cascading down.

    Patsy
    P.S. I review your newsletter along with several others, on my gmail address, please do not send 2 this email address.

  • http://BobLivingstonNewsletters Patsy Despain

    Quite interesting 2 say the least. I’m somewhat bewildered that someone hasn’t already put a hit out on R new Pres.

    What will these people take away from us REAL American’s next?

    Obviously they should put God back in OUR COUNTRY B4 we hit the bottom of that mountainside we R cascading down.

    Patsy
    P.S. I review your newsletter along with several others, on my gmail address, please do not send 2 this email address.

    • http://none Jeff

      I pray to God no one puts a hit out on your president. The chaos and depression that would ensue around the world would be devastating if they succeeded. I for one would be absolutely crushed with sorrow and the future would be so bleak to be unimaginable.

    • Claire

      What a hell of a thing to say. To me, I don’t want any president to have a “hit” put on him/her. This is what I call treason, tyranny. I don’t give a damn what party he/she belongs to, this is not right. It is a simple matter of being voted out of office.
      I don’t care if I piss everyone off on this site. This is exactly what I think AND believe. I voted for Bush, and I ended up being aggravated with him but I sure as hell did not wish ill upon him. I will not let hate consume my mind.
      I have said this a hundred times before, it is posts like this that the NUTS read.

      • kate8

        Well said, Claire.

        The only ones I ever hear calling for the death of someone (on the right) they don’t like is the Left. They are A-OK with that. Yet, it is always the right they accuse of saying such things.

        You always know what the left is up to by what they are accusing the right of.

    • http://yahoo.com marc

      God hates us too.

  • The Munz

    If you really want to be afraid now and see exactly what they are up to. Google the McCain – Liberman Bill called the “The Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention and Prosecution Act of 2010.”

    It can take any tea party people and make them enemy combatants without Miranda, habius corpus and subjects them to the whims of our boy king Obama.

    This power grab is one of the most frightening bills I have ever seen in my life. It makes the presidents subjective decision on who is a danger a terrorist.

    Get the word out on this one. This is one of those laws that although maybe well intentioned can be turned against every American who disagrees with “the one”

    • rwnut

      The Munz…John(Teddy)McCain has his hands in more un-american -hit than any person I can think of.Some where along the way he has become a turncoat to America!All these years the Republican party thought he was working for them.He has finally exposed himself for what he really is.He has nearly brought this country to a civil war with his open borders and amnesty.This guy is a pro at bait and switch.Vote for J.D.Hayworth.

  • Bob Wire

    Quote;”Now we have an administration that has shown a proclivity to use missile attacks from Predator drones to kill what it is calling insurgents or terrorists in Pakistan and Afghanistan—and killing innocents in the process—saying that it’s time to use them in a country we’re not currently at war with to kill an American citizen who hasn’t harmed anyone himself.”

    a kernel of truth in a bucket of manure.

    Quote;”If they think the rhetoric of Tea partiers—or Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or whoever—is somehow inciting violence, how long is it before the administration starts authorizing drone missile attacks on them”

    Hmm? ~ I don’t know when! Please tell us! we’d all like to know! So we might all be scared together!

    Quote;” But what else do you call the order designating American-born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as a target for a strike by a drone missile?
    Awlaki is suspected by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of actively plotting violence. He is described in The New York Times as “a charismatic preacher who has said it is a religious duty to attack the United States.” The CIA says it believes Awlaki’s rhetoric inspired Times Square attempted-bomber Faisal Shahzad.

    Hmm? and this is a bad thing?

    Your and my President is a pragmatic, a problem solver that does not prescribe to one “single” ideology. I know it’s confusing for you and frighten to you. But you’er getting panties in a wad for nothing I fear.

    There is no high crimes for impeachment been committed. However as soon they are, feel free but I’ll be the first in the line.

    This article is probably some of your worst work to date. And no ! I’m not in the market for gold at 200% over value. But somebody will!

    • Harald

      You said it so well! Unfortunately, quite a number of Americans don’t know whether they are punched or bored. One can’t do anything right for them. “We want leadership” but don’t lead us. How unfortunate.

      • JLC

        Harald — More accurately, We want leadership — but don’t try to DRIVE us!

    • WarriorH

      Bob,

      Where do you find this information regarding the president’s problem solving abilities? I would like to read up on this.

      • http://none Jeff

        Well for one hopefully if things go through millions more people will have healthcare coverage. They will still systematically deny people like women with breast cancer their proper care but hey it is not a perfect system.

    • American Citizen

      The left constantly castigates President Bush for going into Iraq to deter Hussein from attacking us. I thought deterrence was a bad thing.

      • Norm

        American Citizen
        Saddam had no intentions or capabilitys to attack the US.
        It’s simply inconcievable.

      • timr

        American citizen,

        It wasn’t only the Left, who said going into Iraq was a huge mistake………MANY, many, retired Generals said not to……….(but, what do they know)……….

        • JeffH

          WASHINGTON (CNN) — In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.

          Hours earlier, the House approved an identical resolution, 296-133.

          Resolution sharply divides Democrats
          The Senate vote sharply divided Democrats, with 29 voting for the measure and 21 against. All Republicans except Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island voted for passage.
          Minority Leader Richard Gephardt, D-Missouri, said giving Bush the authority to attack Iraq could avert war by demonstrating the United States is willing to confront Saddam over his obligations to the United Nations.

    • KASI (AMERICAN)

      Harold and Bob,sounds like you both are on the Obama train,so do you both like socialism because thats where we’re heading,anyone can and should be able to live here (IF) you respect AMERICAN history,THE CONSTITUTION,and are here legally.You both are persecuting for religious beliefs even though it is clear that our great country was founded BY CHRISTIAN BASED religions.Yes it does say seperation from church and state but anyone with half a brain and no agendas can see that that ment the church cannot run roughshot over the people like it had been for centuries.GOD BLESS AMERICA and our roots and we will once again revail over the wantabe tyrant of our generation

    • Pat R

      Apparently you have not been keeping up with what is going on in DC!
      I don’t see how or why Obama has not been impeached before now!

  • American liberal

    I’m not suprised at the nonsense of this artical … Just yesterday Alwalaki said killing Americans is justified and any means president Obama uses To take this terrorist out is fine with me and most Americans .. It’s amazing that anyone could defend Alwalaki, But this is an anti American site… I’ve heard the attempted attack in New York refered over and over as an attempted act of terrorism…You rightwingers have now resorted to cheering for the … terrorist…this countrys had dead or alive policys for centurys for Americans citizens that kill fellow citizens .. Even shoot on site policys… So good for president Obama if he can get this terrorist with a drone….this is s new low for articals trashing this president and our military, law enforcement and our government…

    • airangel

      I actually agree taking out a terroist that calls for the persecution of Americans…all the more reason not to let these religious finatics build a mosque by 9/11 and be given Sharia jurisdiction, they just simply can’t embrace Americanism and we would have our own Gaza strip right in NYC if they are allowed to reign there and force their ways on us…this is the only religion that uses suicide bombers of all ages and genders…no one would be safe in public places or public transit

      • http://www.rononthespot.com Ronald Nuckles

        I agree with what you are saying but don’t put to much faith in good
        buddy Obama or any other politician for that matter. You slip up and say the wrong thing to the wrong person and you may well be on a hit list yourself. You are just as unsafe from those within as you are from those outside of our borders.

        • Bob Wire

          this same reasoning can be and should be applied to SB1070.

          • Momof3

            Wow, Bob! That is quite a stretch. As long as you have ID (you know, passport, not from Mexico) you should be fine. It is high time to enforce our immigration laws. We really can’t pick and choose which laws to enforce. I for one, would love to stop paying the majority of taxes in this country to fund all of these failing social programs.

          • WarriorH

            Bob, I visited the airport this past weekend and went up to the Air Mexicana ticket window and requested two tickets to Cancun. They had the nerve to ask me for a passport and money for the tickets.

            Do you think I should contact the ACLU, State Dept. or would you recommend another agency? I feel like I’ve been wronged.

          • Sandra

            Don’t mind Bob Wires IGNORANT ANSWER! He, much like Obama and congress, HAS NOT READ SB1070

    • PragmaticSort

      Alwaki needs to be removed from the planet. Obama did right.

    • Joe Conservative

      American Liberal, you are missing the point. Here is obama, creating a double standard – he is calling this radical cleric a terrorist, as he should but then the underwear bomber and the Times Square bomber he reads them their rights? And, obama and his admin. can’t even call these 2 that were CAUGHT trying to plant & detonate a bomb on our soil terrorists but Alwalaki he calls a terrorist? Come on even a pin head like you SHOULD understand that a terrorist is a terrorist whether he is “just talking” about killing Americans or actually planting bombs to REALLY kill Americans! Do you not get that? As Anne Coulter so nicely put it, “…what do you call a democrat with a brain – a republican” You definitely are a sphincter muscle with your head stuck all the way up that sphincter. Get your head out of there so you can think clearly – there is still hopr for you yet, or not!

      • http://none Jeff

        good point, there is a discrepancy. Is it practical to read the guy in Yemen his rights? Can they arrest the guy without a lot of american casualties? Going into detail about the guy’s sphincter was not a good point. Our biases affect all our judgement’s to different degrees and if you want someone to see your point, insulting them is probably not the best way.

      • rockinroll1064

        I agree that the 1st 2 terrorist should of been treated like enemy conbatants,not common criminals.I don’t agree w/everything Obama does,but I do notice that some of these ultraconservatives are hypocrits for trashing Obama for every trivial misdeeed!

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear American liberal,
      So you are okay with denying Awlaki (an American citizen) his rights guaranteed under the 5th Amendment: “nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law?” Article 3 Section 3 describes how to handle a Treason case: “Treason… shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or confession in open court.” These (5th Amendment) rights have been granted to Egyptian Khalid Sheik Mohammed (and others residing in Gitmo) but are being denied to Awlaki. Even the “evil” Bush administration granted Johnny Walker Lindh an opportunity for a jury trial (although he was mistreated and his rights were violated before that trial) and he chose a plea bargain. Is they irony lost on you?
      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Steve

        Yes Bob, it is lost on him, or was that a rhetorical question? ;-)

    • KASI (AMERICAN)

      liberal american is an oxymoron pick one because you cant be both,however i do like obama doing this if it is for the right reasons,ANTI-(violent) AMERICANS should be destroyed and this is the first thing that Obama has done that i agree with but thats it.Obama is a Black Bush spending us into history they are letting us fall behind on purpose because they all have the Karl Marx mentality.Case in point Bill Clinton said in a speech that “we need to find a way for everyone to win”.How can that be possible liberal american?Are we all 3 year olds playing in a youth soccer league,NO this is reality and we’re all grown up now.But why does Obama want this terrorist destroyed and not the rest????????????????

      • http://none Jeff

        that is a good point. How can you ask him? Can you email your congressman to ask the question in congress to see if he gets an answer? I am thinking that he is trying to stop further strikes on american soil from this guy preaching to people and encouraging more strikes. Since the others are in U.S. custody, their ability to incite others to attack america is limited now. I am sure there are other reasons as well.

        • KASI (AMERICAN)

          ok why not try to take him into custody,and why have we released dozens of detainees from gitmo,why not try the detainess for war crimes. blah blah blah whats your point jeff.The one place we had for criminals of this nature was gitmo and he wants to shut it down and put those,for a lack of a better word (people) in our back yards.Yes i hesitate calling them people because people like you me can have debate without wanting to blow eachothers houses or families up for a belief.Would you send your pregnant sister into market with bomb strapped to her in the name of whoever probably not (but they do)

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      YOU MAKE ME LAUGH,WHATS THE DIFFERANCE WHEN ANYONE BRAKES THE LAW,IS IT THE LAW OF THE CHOSEN PEOPLE( THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE) OR US CHRISTAINS WHAT IS CALLED BY LIBERMAN AND OTHER NON -CHOSEN PEOPLE.AND LISTEN TO LIBERMAN HE IS ABOVE THE LAW ,ITS OK BECAUSE I SAY IT IS. TO MURDER SOMEONE ,CHRISTAINS AT LEAST GIVE YOU THE CHANCE TO DEFEND YOURSELF,WELL WHAT CAN ONE EXPECT FROM A CONTROLLED GOVERNMENT,RUN BY GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE,JUSTICE LOOK AROUND, WAKE UP ,WALLSTREET,THE GIVING AWAY OF THE ECONOMY,NAFTA ,WASNT AN IRISHMAN THAT PUSHED THAT MESS,THE WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGANISTAN,WHY BECAUSE THE BIG HYPE OF (OH,THEY HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) WELL NOW WE IN AMERICA HAS BEEN SUCKERED INTO THE JEWISH MEAT GRINDER WARS AGAINST ISLAM, AND THE VERY PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON ,LIBERMAN,ARI FLASHER,AND ALL THE REST OF THIS BUNCH ,HAVE DESTROYED THIS NATION,AND HAVE CORRUPPTED BOTH PARTIES,AND IF I AM WRONG,WHY CANT THIS MESS,BE FIXED? BECAUSE THE GREAT ONES DONT WANT IT FIXED,AS IT IS SAID IN THE CARNIAVAL, THE MORE SMOKE YOU HAVE ,THE MORE YOU CAN STEAL.BY THE WAY WHEN PEOPLE REALLY LOOK AT ALL THIS MESS ,WHO DO YOU THINK THEY WILL BLAME,IF I WERE YOU AMERICAN LIBERAL,I WOUDNT COUNT ON HISTORY SAYING THAT ISREAL WAS THE GOOD GUYS OR THE BUNCH RUNNING THIS MESS WERE THE GOOD GUYS TOO,THATS WHEN THE CHICKENS COME HOME TO ROOST,AND REMEMBER THIS, NEVER POOP IN YOUR NEIGBORS FOOD,THEY MAY DESTROY YOU.AND YOU DEFEND MURDER,YOU ARE NO CHRISTAIN,BUT ONE OF THE CROOKS IN POWER( WORKING FOR THEM) AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE CAUSED THIS MELTDOWN,IN THIS NATION AND ALL THESE WARS.I AM SICK OF ALL THE ARABS AND YOU TROUBLEMAKERS HERE IN THE U.S.A. GO TO RUSSIA AND START A SECOND COMMUNIST REVOLUTION,THE FIRST ONE FLOPPED AFTER 70YRS. AND GO KILL ANOTHER 70 MILLION CHRISTAINS THERE A SECOND TIME. BUT DONT COUNT ME IN IT STINKS.

    • rockinroll1064

      Yep,I’m all for putting a target on this cowards head,he is an enemy combatant!Funny how the right wingers want to impeach the President for doing the right thing.If Bush decided to do the same thing,he would be a strong courageous(sp) president w/balls of steel.It’s amazing how far they will reach to discredit him(Obama),makes me wonder what their true intentions lie.

  • American liberal

    Typo… Shoot on sight…

  • Joseph

    Excellent perception, excellent account of this administrations roughshod treatment of our beloved Constitution, historically considered one of the most remarkable documents of western civilization, as well as American citizens themselves.

    Since day 1 this administration & the fed in general, has been setting the stage so, like Nazi Germany before it, it can vilify & eventually round up & silence forever all dissenters, infirmed, disabled, etc.

    Hitler’s ascendency to ultimate power, unlike a dictator happened legally, at the behest of voters & the legislature. Upon his election, undesirables were rounded up. After a suspicious national emergency, he quickly declared Marshall Law, the rest is history.

    No less is about to happen in the United States, the Arsenal of Democracy. The only problem is there is no longer an Arsenal of Democracy, a “New World” to come to the aid of the “Old World” as Winnie so elegantly phrased 60 years ago.

    • Bob Wire

      Not so ! This administration came in during the middle of the movie as the prior administration was abridging Americans bill of rights for some perceived greater good. As “fear mongering” the GOP’s weapon of choice ( much like this article) and first “throw down card” became all too common.

      • JeffH

        Bob, you’re so eloquent with your writings and certainly must enjoy your elongated type which pretty much puts you into the “blowhard” class with many of your contemporaries. Easier to just spit it out without all of the camouflage. You might even get a few more readers and responses to spew your liberal crap at!

        • http://www.hotmail.com marylou

          You envy BOB and his writing skills to get his point across.
          You are unable to prove your point so you name call….how immature and juvenile you are.

          • JeffH

            marylou , what..you don’t care for my sarcasm? Seems you should rethink your comment and the substance of it! Immature? Who’s being immature now?

          • Steve

            Sorry Jeff, Marylou can’t answer right now. Mrs.O caught her chewing gum in her political science class (communism 101) and she has to stand in the corner for the next 30 minutes with the “little pointy hat” on.

          • libertytrain

            Jeff, she might have thought you were making the comment about Bob Livingston rather than Bob Wire -

          • Cindy

            Libertytrain;
            I think you’re right. Sometimes new posters aren’t specific enough about who they are addressing (please include names from now on) and have trouble figuring out which reply button to click on so we know exactly who is the intended recipient.
            Judging from marylous post farther down, she appears to be a conservative.

        • JeffH

          Cindy and libertyrain…I realize she probably mis-guided her response and doesn’t understand my underlying sarcasm as the “regulars” do. I do know that Marylou isn’t “one of them”.

        • Mick for thought

          JeffH I have seen you write quite beautifully with passion with intelligence and obvious evidence of research but what about what Bob said was inaccurate.

    • Kim McGough

      TOO BOTH SIDES; you need to check out the sell out of America to the UN by Obama and Hilary. Interpol can now come on American soil, in the case of an uprising, which could very well happen with all of this bull that is going on now. Our laws, military, and courts have rights in anything when this happens, thanks to Obama, and Hilary just gave the UN the right to take your guns. Check the UN web site

      • Kim McGough

        That is no rights

  • American liberal

    The Pakistani Taliban has taken credit for helping Awlaki…..they are on the list of terrorist organizations…. Which further makes this artical nothing but Anti American nonsense…Bob Livingston should be ashamed… But I doubt that will happen… And this artical should be retracted … I understand free speech… Rush, Hannity, Beck make a living of riling you up… Beck even comes right out and admitts it just ” entertainment ” while I believe they just lie and call it News and opinions to suggest president Obama would use drones on the is flatout ignorance ..and nothing but anti American hate for our legally elected president… By ” We the people”… Perhaps Bob Livingston should concider moving to another country..like Awlaki did because I see little diffrence in Awlakis hate for America and the contents of this artical … Dispicable ..

    • tim

      American Liberal is right………..

      Mr Livingston, you are showing yourself as NO different than the Talking heads on T.V. and Radio……….

      Just about EVERY one of the terrorist caught by the Bush administration were tried and convicted right here in America, but now that Obama is President, it’s quite different isn’t it??

      Make up your mind, is Obama too soft on terrorism, or too harsh???

      Your articles, are entertaining, for your loyal “Liberty” patriots……but, rela patriots can see right through you……….

      • Joe Conservative

        Timmay! what do you mean when you say “Just about EVERY one of the terrorist caught by the Bush administration were tried and convicted right here in America, but now that Obama is President, it’s quite different isn’t it??”?!? Where would they be tried and convicted? Venus?! One thing I do know, under the Bush admin, they were NOT read their rights or treated like a citizen! Sadam was tried, convicted and hung in Iraq. I know, I know, you said “Just about EVERY one…” but seriously, where would they be tried, your garage or maybe your basement? Hey front row seats for the whole family!!! And by the way, in case you have not guessed it, because you asked us to “…make up your mind…” if obama is too hard or soft on terrorism – the answer he is too SOFT!!! For cryin’ out loud Timmay! he and his administration cannot even find the brass ones to say the word “terrorist” come on, boy obama is spoon feeding you the same manure you are regurgitating back to us from what you have heard your talking head obama say. You are a good boy, doing exactly what you have been told, or better, lied to. You need to STOP being so gulla-bull and think with your own mind.

        • timr

          Joey……….

          Obama has gone into Pakistan, which Bush didn’t do….and he has to clean up the mess in aghfganistan, because Bush ignored it…….YES………ugnored it, because of his infatuation with Saddam…….which, incidently, is the the Worst Foreign Policy decision in Generations……………

          And I don’t take in, everything Obama says or does……..I have disagreed with a few of his policies……..but the difference between me and the likes of you, is that I don’t say, that I………….”disagree with that commie, socialist, muslim, kenyan, traitor.””…….when I do question him on something………

          That is reserved for you children……….

          • JeffH

            timr, you’ve had your aged questioned on more than one occasion here…speaking of children…take a look in the mirror sometme, then just maybe you wouldn’t have to justify some of your answers.

          • timr

            Again……we have no-substance JeffH, here……….

          • JeffH

            timr, seems you would know better than anyone based on your long history of “lack of substance” abuse.

    • Infidel

      Wow, the obamots are out in force now aren’t you? ; ]

      • PragmaticSort

        Yep, with their false rationalizations and their false Pelosi history anectodes at their side.

    • JeffH

      I certainly see that “free speech” is still alive and well and of course so are the “two peas in a pod”.
      You hacks always manage to get a quick start, but you’re never around for the finish…I wonder???

      Bob Livingston is a big boy and I’m quite sure he can handle your biased critisisms’ like an adult, which obviously you two cannot!

    • Harald

      Right on! And it’s not just this article. This whole website is the mouthpiece of Obama haters, rednecks, evangelicals.

      • Doug

        That’s right Harald us rednecks who actually have real jobs Harald. Ding ding ding ding ding ding! You got a pretty mouth their boy! Hey Harald come out from under you mommie skirt and try to act like and adult!

      • JeffH

        Gee Harald…give me your best “racist” definition of a redneck?
        Did your Uncle Saul teach you that much or did you learn all of that “racist anti-religious hate” on your own.

      • timr

        Your’e right, Harald………….

        A site full of Joe the Plumbers………..(their hero)

        • libertytrain

          I don’t understand why you waste so much of your valuable time on this site, that you so obviously are infatuated with —-

          • JeffH

            libertytrain, it’s “almost” comical to a point, sometimes, isn’t it?
            I guess it is true, if the shoe fits, wear it!

          • timr

            It’s called Free Speech……..my fellow Americans………….

          • kate8

            It’s called an easy paycheck.

            There is no other explanation. No one can spend all day, every day on blog sites.

    • Joe Conservative

      Hey American Lib, what comedy cafe are you working this weekend? You are extremely hiarious! So this article is anti American? Bob Livingston should be ashamed – and you say you understand free speach? Really, and where do you get YOUR news from? You crack us all up! And speaking of crack you must have gotten a bad batch from your dealer! And what, do you say that we should believe the mainstream liberally inclined media? So how will this work, I guess when obama starts using drones or gang members or sharp shooters or whatever to quench those that are openly talking against the obama Regime then, what then? Can you give us all your phone number so we can all call you to call you a mindless sphincter? I would not put it above obama to take physical action against those that are against his policies. He seems to have a Napolean complex and that can be rather dangerous to those that do not see eye to eye with obama. Hey, where is his birth certificate anyway? That is such a small thing to show that his hiding it only serves to cement the fact that he is NOT a citizen and a bold face liar – even going against his stance in the elctions that he was going to be truthful and transparent. Sphincter, if your boy obama is being truthful and transparent, I’d hate to see him lying or untruthful, no wait, but hold on, he is lying and he doesn’t care that he is because he knows there is an idiot born every minute, like you, that will vote for change, no, wait, there he is lying again! Change, what change, oh yes, lying!!! Now that’s a refreshing change especially AFTER he said he wouldn’t lie – and a Dog will return to his own vomit. Get a life – go to Yemen and pronounce that you are an American!

  • Ken Uncle

    Just a thought but haven’t we here seemed to have forgotten about Cheney’s Hit squads? Nothing here about “extraordinary renditions?” (aka, kidnapping?). Nothing here either about Torture (see: http://www.internationalnews.over-blog.com/article-31790719.html). Umm nothing either about the removal of both habeas corpus and posse comitatus all by the Bush administration? Don’t remember the start of the Iraq War when the Bush administration decided to “take out” the leadership of Iraq? Don’t remember the Bush administration relegating all demonstrations at any Republican rally to like 3 miles away in “Free Speech” Zones (I guess to celebrate freedom of speech)? Short memories.

    • American Citizen

      Yet you condone what the Obama Administration is doing, while castigating the Bush Administration. Hypocrite.

  • Chief Eagle

    I agree with Joe Myrick who wrote above in his paragraph.

    The Lord caused a delusion to come over many millions of Americans to vote for ‘Barry’ the foreign agent from Indonesia and born in Kenya.
    God always creates the means to punish Christians and other Americans for our unthinkable and wicked, national sins. Our Lord took care of Israel’s sins in all of O.T. history; only a fool would think we will get away with abortion, homosexuality, white collar corruption and gang violence in our largest cities. We deserve whatever the Lord providentially brings to us in the form of punishments.

    I have prophetically warned our most conservative politicians like Boehner and DeMint about Soetoro not being ‘a natural born citizen’ including letters to our Supreme Court members as to these facts. They are all afraid and will not deal with matters at hand in our beloved nation.

    Illegals need to be shot at to scare them home. We are creating our own national down fall, at the hands of a Muslim who ‘no doubt’ has never taken time to even becoming a naturalized citizen of the United States of America.

    Christians, please pray fervently for a totally new Congress and an ‘American Made’ President who will stop border crossings of terrorists and illegals. Our government has a list of terrorists who have been caught coming from various foreign nations.

    Pray for America!! Obama is about to wilfully and fully destroy our financial security as Ben Laden tried by destroying our Twin Towers, the symbols and reality of our financial markets and national stability and sovereignty.

    • Bill

      AMEN

      GOD always wins.

      • Mick for thought

        I suppose God does always win. 3 major religions pray to him for help against their enemies. Hope he is listening to our prayers not the Islamic fundamentalist.

    • Harald

      Please, Chief Eagle, stay up there in the clouds of whatever you have been smoking. The Lord will thank you for that.

    • American liberal

      Owldog… Good post… And I agree…. The constitution and bill of rights was written as an example as to how the founding fathers believed all people should be treated everywhere…..” All men were created equal” means much more than just Americans should be treated….

      • Cindy

        anti-American libturd
        GAWD YOU ARE F.O.S. It was written for the American citizens, NOBODY ELSE!! Where the h*ll do even you come up with this crap you post?
        Are you really so ignorant as to think it was written for other countries and other people? France? Mexico? England?
        Gawd, get a grip little boy…..

        • Mick for thought

          Cindy,
          America has always had greater influence in the world with the power of our example rather than the example of our power.

          • Cindy

            Our Constitution and our Republic has had an effect on other countries wanting the same Mick, but the statement posted was that our Constitution was written as an example for other countries, and that is PURE BULL SHIRT!! It was written for us…Period!

      • timr

        American Liberal,

        The problem, since 9/11, is that we Americans now want to separate ourselves from the World………..WE… are the only ones who ever have been attacked……..WE ….. are the only peoples of the World who deserve freedom……..WE …..are the only Country who should dictate to others as to what’s BEST for them…………It’s called arrogance and hubris, and it’s turning this Country into angry red-necks……and militia Groups………….

        Americans used to be more united, when we had The Soviet Union around……like we had one comman enemy, we could blame everything on…….

        Now, we are the only Super Power left and we are now fighting a Cold War right here in this Country instead…………

        This Country is NOT going anywhere, people. We are strong, we are industrious (although, not lately), and we pick ourselves up when things are not going well………..

        So, to all of you Obama haters out there……..MEWSFLASH!!!…….We are NOT losing our Liberty or our Freedoms or our Country……..so take a look at other Countries out there, and then decide…….How bad is it here………….

    • http://none Tzion-Ben-Judah

      Chief Eagle.You are so right but please don’t forget to pray for the Peace of Jerusalem as Psalm 122:06 asks us to do.Let us not turn our backs on our only friend ISRAEL.Obama did and look at what is happening to this country.I am not by nature an alarmist but I don’t think that nature turning against America is just chance either.If the Administration puts presure on Israel ,God will apply twice the presure on this nation because of the Pharoah in the White House.Unfortunately it rains on the just and the unjust.But GOD will protect HIS people.Thaqnk you chief for your wise statement.SHALOM my brother.

      • timr

        Hey Judah……..we can longer afford to giving Israel a Free pass……..They insult us and make us look like idiots, yet they are benefitting by American soldiers dying in their part of the world……

        Tell me, name one Israeli soldier that died in the Gulf War, or this latest war in Iraq……………..

        The answer is NONE………

        No more free pass, as our alliance with Israel gets Americans KILLED…………

        • WarriorH

          Careful there timmy. Your anti-semitism is starting to show.

          • timr

            Warrior H,

            Let me educate you…….I have many, many Jewish friends……..very close friends……..It’s not the Jewish people I dislike…….it’s the Israeli Government that I’m against…………there’s a difference……….

          • JeffH

            WarriorH, I doubt that timr has many friends at all…except for possibly the thugs in So Chicago he so often puffs his chest about.

    • rockinroll1064

      Words from a future Christian Taliban cleric!

      • rockinroll1064

        This stupid website misplaced my quote!

  • s c

    Zowie! Thin-skinned ultralib space cadets want it both ways (ANYTHING to protect der Obummer). When an anti-American, ultraliberal progressive tries to talk like a conservative, it means ONE thing. It means there are MANY fence-sitting ‘moderates’ who have to be wooed in upcoming elections.
    Hence, der Obummer’s hypocrisy gets energized in an attempt to cater to fence-sitters and a few potential Republicans whose RINO ways tempt them to start whining about the head dictator’s need to be ‘sensitive’ and “reach out.”
    Time to suck down the pepto. It’s PUKING time AGAIN.

    • American Citizen

      Moderates are “middle-of-the-roaders” and we know what happens when we stand in the middle of the road. They wait to see which way the wind is blowing, have no center, and as far as I am concerned, are weak. They cannot be trusted.

      • rockinroll1064

        HAHAHA!”we all know what happens when we stand in the middle of the road”!That’s kind of like “if you have an open mind,your brain will fall out”!I’ve heard this a lot from folks who couldn’t even finish high school!I’ve got news for you, pinheads,it’s harder to keep an open mind than just say NO to everything your little brain doesn’t understand!

        • kate8

          He who won’t take a stand, stands for nothing.

    • rockinroll1064

      stupid windows popping upand messing up where my replies end up!

  • American liberal

    I’m defending the use of these drones… But let me remind you that the last administration used them too… And I don’t care if Awlikis Maranda rights are pinned to a drone… As long as he gets what he deserves….And I don’t care that Awliki hasn’t personally killed any Americans… That’s like defending Osama Bin Ladin because he only ordered the 9/11 attacks , he’s just as guilty as the terrorist who flew the planes…and that’s exactly what this artical does….do you know what these people like Rush, Hannity , Beck , Palin or the authors on this site really mean when they say ” keep your Powder dry”?? What they really mean is you poor or middleclass do the attacking and us millionairs will cheer you on….I’d like see 1 of them say They’d lead the attack…and if any of these rightwing cowards like Beck, Rush, Palin… Or any of them ever urged an attack on our government then they should be arrested as a domestic terrorist….once that happens they’ve past up what’s concidered free speech ..

    • Infidel

      They aren’t attacking America.

      But nobama is activly attacking them for speaking out against him/it.

      Double standards, gotta love ‘em…

    • JeffH

      American liberal, it is unfathomable to you and your hack buddies that Beck, Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly can have more listeners these days than your messiah BHO can. I know who’s doing the most damage to this country. Just a hint for you…the guy at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave is still running the scam on you and I.

      Awlaki could have been silenced many times before now and I’m quite sure it has happened to others, before JFK and after, by the CIA.
      It should just be “business as usual” for these guys.

      • Harald

        And, Jeff, your point for clear action is??

        • JeffH

          VERY easy Harald…SHOOT TO KILL!

      • timr

        And JeffH……are you STILL watching beck & Hannity……???
        I feel sorry for you, because their Books, are probably the only one’s you’ve read……….

        Sad……….

        • JeffH

          timr, save your “pity” for someone who cares! Sad? I’ll go out on a limb and say you are fibbing a bit with your pity and sadness.
          Say what you honestly think…timr.

        • WarriorH

          Actually Beck and Michael Savage. They both ROCK!

          • Mick for thought

            Beck is the other side of the coin of Oberman except he keeps crying on public TV. Like Oberman he connects dots that exist only in his own mind.

    • Joncar

      amer lib
      Snot brain, or perhaps —– head would be a better name for you. It’s for sure your head is full of one or the other. You must be kin to someone in the administration! Just trying to reason with the way you think makes me want to puke.

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      AMERICAN LIBERAL,YOU ARE A LEFTWING HACK,AND A COMMUNIST,JUST WHAT YOU POST,DO IT IN ISREAL AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.OH NO YOU HAVE TO POST YOUR ANTI-AMERICAN PRO-JEWISH LOGIC.GO TO ANOTHER SITE TROUBLE MAKER. AND BIBLE READING CHRISTAINS ARE GREAT AS SO ARE REDNECKS,AND THE TEA PARTY.LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC.

      • Stan B

        AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN….

  • angel-wanna-be

    I agree bob, who’s next on the attack list?__I not only fear where America’s headed under this Administration, it’s the confusion they cause, the lack of experience, the language they portray and retract at will, the division they are causing on our own soil. Siding with another country’s President, against the American people. I truely believe God has allowed Obama to stand for now. Those that voted Obama in office, are now also suffering, the hope and change they wanted, along with those of us who didn’t vote for him.__The lesson is, to be careful what we pray for, because we might get it__Obama is living proof!__I must ask again, hows the hope and change working out for you now, kool-aid-ites?

    • Bob Wire

      support SB1070 and maybe your children will find out who’s next?

      • angel-wanna-be

        BOB WIRE, soooo whats the big deal about showing legalization papers?__DO YOU HAVE ID?__DON’T YOU HAVE TO SHOW IT, WHEN STOPPED BY THE POLICE?__NO BODY’S SPECIAL BUDDY, GET OVER IT???

      • JeffH

        Well ole Bob boy…seems Americans like the Arizona legislation a little better than you do.

        I know this is the despicable “to you” FOX poll but it mirrors the countries support for the law and the issue of illegal immigration.

        Poll shows that most US residents agree with Arizona immigration SB1070 law…Thursday, a new Fox News poll showed that by a 2-1 margin, most people in the US would like a law in their state similar to SB1070 immigration law that Arizona just passed. 65% of people said that they want police to question people they think may be in the country illegally.

        I might add that the “Rasmussen Poll from a year ago(Thursday, March 26, 2009)Shows Americans Favor Stricter Local Immigration Enforcement”.
        The poll shows that 67% of Americans would favor local police conducting surprise raids where immigrants congregate daily to find work. Only 24% disagree with the practice.

        Results also reveal that 68% of Americans favor stricter sanctions against companies that hire undocumented workers. Only 22% oppose stricter sanctions.

        More information on these polls can be found at Rasmussen Reports

        •Other polls conducted by Rasmussen show that 79% of voters think the United States should beef up its military presence on the Mexican border.
        •73% of voters think police should automatically check a person’s immigration status during traffic violations

        Where are the feds when you need them?

        • Bob Wire

          No doubt about it Jeff, I’m in a minority.

          Here’s the problem I see, ~ Most all people are supportive of the “intent” of SB 1070. Me included. It’s not the “intend” that concerns me but the realization, it can’t be enforced, long enough and consistent enough to ever work! making it just one more law on the books that can’t be enforce while each one of us gave away some of our rights as being American.

          You are talking about mother’s going to the store and not returning? Or you are talking about, a mother being detained and having 3 children at home. ~ You are talking about juvies, infants, that the city, or state must “handle” in some fashion.

          We talk about this like it’s a matter, just cuffing and stuffing! Sending a person on a one way bus ride!

          Well I hate to pop everyone”s bubble but that’s not the way it’s done. It a little more complicated, more involved and it takes money! Them don’t have money! So don’t look to them for the money, that’s why they are here, money and safety. So where do you think this money is going to come from?

          This Bill, will created a industry if it’s planed to stay enforced. The bill it’s self , just a tiny seed. And I don’t think you’ll like what grow out of it.

          • JeffH

            Bob, spare me the “bleeding heart”, but free speach is free. Just enforce the laws, as in ICE enforce, and we wouldn’t be faced with this crap, would we? Calderon gets a standing ovation for trashing America at the White House? Despicable at best!…perhaps a “shoot on sight” order would be more effective at stopping the illegals from crossing the line and turn them around a little quicker. I’ll donate my time and resources to such an effort if it helps ease the financial burden of the government doing their JOB!

          • American Citizen

            I take it you haven’t read the bill either, just as Holder and Obama didn’t before they opened mouth and inserted foot. States have the right to defend their citizens. The governor of Arizona is only enforcing the Federal laws. We all have to show ID all the time. I’m even asked for picture ID when I go to the hospital or doctor’s office for treatment, to cash a check anywhere but my own bank, etc. Get a clue.

          • Steve

            Bob with the “Wires crossed”
            Doesn’t seem to matter to you if your facts are accurate or not, you just throw them out there and hope they’ll stick.
            The issues of an illegal alien getting detained, or arrested are EXACTLY THE SAME as any legal mother of father getting detained, or arrested. If there are kids at home the cops send Childrens Services Div. over to the house, and if the children are of the age that they need supervision they provide it.

            I concur with JeffH, “spare us the bleeding heart” PLEEEEEASE!

          • timr

            JEFFH,

            You don’t give a damn about anyone, do you??……
            Your’e one selfish S.O.B.

          • JeffH

            Now timr, you know that’s not true…see, you’ve hurt my feelings again by calling me an SOB! If you want to play and pretend the part, don’t say those mean things…so insensitive you liberal hacks are!

      • JLC

        Bob Wire — Support SB 1070, and maybe YOUR children will grow up speaking English!

        • WarriorH

          Have you read the bill – NO. Have you read the bill – NO. Have you read the bill – NO.

          Appears as though there are now two parties of NO/Know/NO????

          These frauds are a disgrace to humankind.

          • JLC

            Warrior H — As a matter of fact, I HAVE read the bill! Furthermore, I was familiar with both La Raza, and La Reconquísta long before they became political issues. Look up “Treaty of Guadaloupe-Hidalgo” and see the extent of the territory that La Reconquísta wants to see returned to Mexico. Quite a chunk of ground!

          • JLC

            Postscript — For the benefit of those readers that may not understand Spanish, “Reconquísta” means exactly what it looks like — “Reconquest!”

    • Harald

      Angel, circumstances require some lateral thinking. You should be thankful for a leader with nuanced ambiguity. But you don’t like that, nor decisive action. So what do you like?
      The present status of the world need it more than a young Bush just firing indiscriminately and killing, injuring thousands of Americans.
      Frankly, his master,Cheney, and he himself should be invited to The Hague.

      • JeffH

        …and perhaps in due time you too shall be escorted to the gallows…

      • jbird

        Nuanced ambiguity? Where I come from that means straddling the fence. This administration isn’t fence straddling, it’s driving the whole herd toward fascism.

      • Da Norseman

        The Hague is a BIG joke just like the U.N. and some of these other crackpot leftist garbage that has a soft spot for anyone who is an adversary of this country.

        • timr

          Spoken like the typical, narrow, American mind……….Da Norseman…

          • rwnut

            timr…You’re finally admitting that you don’t consider yourself American.Wait a minute,maybe you’re an illegal alien!Tell me it’s just another conspiracy theory.

    • http://yahoo.com marc

      Obama will be re-elected a 2nd term. In fact he’s already proclaimed it. The republicans don’t have a viable candidate.After 8yrs. of bush jr. Nepotism in the the white house and now obamawama. muslim/socialist/communist/gift of gab/puppet/of the dark race/PCorrect. Unless,Sara(know nothing)palin of the teabag party/the republicans answer to h.clinton can make as many empty promise’s as obama did and win the know nothing peace prize on rhetoric alone in her quest for fame/fortune/historical/legend etc. obama will be back. Years ago C.C.Revival sang a song “Who’ll Stop the Rain?” Its actually “REIGN” confusion on the ground/trying to find the sun/son etc.

  • http://yahoo.com marc

    obama did not put a hit on this radical death-embracing,life-hating cleric. He warned him publicly what other were planning. Since his warning two american tourists have been kidnapped. I suggest we swap obama,pelosi,da clintons,jimmy(mama’s peanut head)carter,harry reid,john kerry,bush sr.+bush jr. for the unsuspecting tourists. You can have’em and we don’t want them back.

    • Bob Wire

      Throw Rush & Glenn in and you got a deal! And if you’ll thrown in Palin I’ll dance at your next wedding!

      • JeffH

        Why Bob, you disappoint! Who’s going to run the country if they’re included in the deal? Afterall, there are some that feel that way!

        • timr

          Certainly not those 3 idiots………

          Someone has to stay home and take care of the Palin kids and grand kids…………

          I doubt if beck has “sired” any children…………

          • JeffH

            …love it when the real timr bares his fangs…and to think you had the nerve to compare anothers remarks as childish…I much prefer you this way…

          • timr

            Thanks jeffH……I’ll take that as a compliment………

          • JeffH

            …it really wasn’t meant to be, I just don’t care for fakes!

    • Stan B

      mARC, I COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER, god bless the usa, and PLEASE GOD DO WHAT MARC SAYS, I second the motion…AMEN

      • http://yahoo.com marc

        Stan,Obama certainly does a lot of lip-flapp’in. I’m stunned by the way our media gives out so much information that compromises our ability to effectivly stop those that live to hate. It’s obvious that this cleric and those like him are too willing to commit murder against the the unsuspecting. Why our president would make such a public statement can only be a warning to all cleric’s committed to gihad to beware,go into hiding. Where is osama bin hidin?

  • Jack

    I don’t completely agree with this article for a couple of reasons,
    Firstly being born a natural american citizen does not exclude you
    from becoming a enemy of the state, Secondly being a cleric also doesn’t exclude from anti-americanism. Happenings of terror have been the norm lately so how do you deal with it. This Alwaki character has
    made his own bed by his rhetoric, and now he is suspected of being part of the 9/11 terror attack. He is hiding for a reason, but there are ways to get rid of him without hurting innocent people.
    The post by American Liberal accuses the right wing of cheering for the terrorists, which proves just how far out of the loop the left
    really is, MR Livingston was just making a comparison in showing the
    hypocracy of the left by saying the Tea Partiers which is composed of
    genuine concerned americans citizens are terrorists, but at the same time refusing to condemn a actual terrorist act in New York as an isolated incident, and as usual the liberals misconstrue the whole
    article by trying to make a truism into a false premise. Alwaki so far
    hasn’t done anything but use hate rhetoric so he should be under some
    suspicion until his involvement is proven, and if he is he should be
    called what that makes him a Terrorist, in the mean time monitor everything he does and says. You just don’t kill someone because you think he’s a terrorist, an american citizen must be assumed innocent until proven guilty. The last Fort Hood shooting and the other two failed attempts to kill americans were terrorist acts, so the Obama
    group should own up to the facts.

  • American liberal

    Tokyo Rose was a U. S. Citizen too…. She was convicted for her words…… And I would have been fine if we’d used a drone on her to….I’m not at all suprised the rightwingers on this site would defend her…. Some of you anyway would have defended her…. I’m also impressed that some of the conservatives on this site agree this artical is way over the top …..the content of this artical is at the very least unamerican … Talk about apologizing to the enemy?.. That’s exactly what this artical does….good for you President Obama….you can stick a drone when the sun doesn’t shine on any terrorist you can…this artical is ” apologizing to the terroist ” because our military uses drones on them… Tough..

    • Doug

      Maybe Obama good buddy Rev. Wright should be on the hit list to he is also Anti-American.

      Also Obama upset about the law in Arizona because he has not papers to prove he is a natural US CITIZEN!

      • Harald

        Bull! You just don’t want to believe that he is an American. Why? Because any excuse to rally against a black president will do. Right, wrong or indifferent. Why does intelligence scare you people so much?

        • JeffH

          AHHHH Harald…your racism is prevalent in most of your comments. Stop promoting what is not there…a liberal mantra to say the least.

        • timr

          Harald,

          People like JeffH and his buddies, have constantly denied that much of their hatred of Obama stems from Race…….They blurt out ethnic “slurs”, and then deny, that his backround and Parent’s origins, have nothing to do with their feelings towards him………

          Many of then claim NOT to be racist, but the hate tells us otherwise………They’v been trying their HARDEST to show to others, how “different” Obama is……..and “We want our Country Back”……….and he’s Muslim…….

          It’s all scare tactics rapped up in ignorance, and YES, this Country’s “bumpkin” population has floated to the surface…………make NO mistake about that………..

          • JeffH

            timr says: “It’s all scare tactics rapped up in ignorance, and YES, this Country’s “bumpkin” population has floated to the surface…………make NO mistake about that………” Racists? Only you know the truth of your racist vitriol! I hope you haven’t been teaching your rhetoric to the “inner-city” children you brag so mightily about helping.

            WOW! Now you’ve really gone and done it…again! Keep that fire burning deep inside your numb skull, your fellow numb skulls depend on it!

          • kate8

            Did you hate Bush because he was white? Because surely it couldn’t have been because you disagreed with his politics.

          • Stan B

            Hey dum dum OBUMMA is a MUSLIN, I didn’t say it he said it himself, where do you live under a rock ?????

        • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

          Harald,
          Stop trying to play us with this racist accusation. If you think that people are gonna sign on to that crap you must be a member of reverend Al Sharptons flock. The race card don’t work no mo.the more you try and play us, the more you turn people off. obama is da president at this very moment. Stop the campaign. White guilt got him elected so deal with it. The 18 to 25 crowd that also got him elected is on to him now. So kiss him goodbye in 2012.fool us once shame on you, fool us twice shame on us.

          • http://yahoo.com marc

            Dear Pat, I wish I could agree about not re-electing obama a 2nd term and the democrats. Do you expect the GOP back in office? Obama has already re-elected himself and the always disgruntled darkrace will back his re-election along with all the cockroaches from mexico here illegally given the right to vote by politicians from both parties always more concerned about being re-elected than displayed wisdom/leadership abilities. WE ARE SO SCREWED BY BOTH PARTIES IN OUR TWO DICTATORSHIP.

        • timr

          Harald,

          I couldn’t have said it better myself….

          Isn’t it funny them calling US Racists, when they are spending all day going after Obama’s ethnicity???……..

          They are same people who’s fathers held Hoses in Alabama in the 1960′s………….

          • JeffH

            timr says: “Isn’t it funny them calling US Racists, when they are spending all day going after Obama’s ethnicity???……..”

            You really need to get it correct before you insert your foot in your mouth! A little osmosis happening in your brain causing your dilemma?

    • American Citizen

      No, she spouted hate speech which the Constitution does not give us the right to do. We even have laws against it. We are not allowed to preach treason and sedition or to holler “fire!” in a crowded theater. There is a limit to free speech. The Constitution is a political document and the free speech means we can criticize the government without fear of retribution. And before the left starts in on me, there is a difference between criticizing the government and hate speech. I don’t see the conservatives preaching that Obama should be taken out in any way other than the ballot box. That’s not hate speech nor treason.

      • timr

        American Citizen,

        I agree with you that there is a difference………but you have to admit, that there is alot of reference to his name and his ethnicity, that is very much deliberate………..and you know why????

        • JeffH

          timr, “but you have to admit”, all that is needed is for “YOU TO ADMIT” your constant abuse of Obamas ethnicity as an excuse for his Marxist qualities!

  • Bob Wire

    Agreed , they should! That flags and alarms were going off everywhere I find it appalling.

    Obama is stuck in the middle, with that one. ~ This is a military he inherited , must use and depend on. But still! I’d like it much better to see some heads roll. I’m not sure that there wasn’t at some level. But embarrassing senior staff and not making gains toward resolve and resolution , but to only offer a show and “feel good” is not what Obama is about when stakes are so high. A Delicate situation. Stinks!

    Quote;”MR Livingston was just making a comparison in showing the
    hypocracy of the left by saying the Tea Partiers which is composed of
    genuine concerned americans citizens are terrorists, but at the same time refusing to condemn a actual terrorist act in New York as an isolated incident, and as usual the liberals misconstrue the whole”

    Hmm? really, I didn’t see it that way at all, I’ll read it again.

    We seem to be getting into “abstracted hypocrisy” of sorts, I see hypocrisy everywhere I look. This thread worries about down side of amended liberties and in the Arizona SB1070 thread we are celebrating amending liberties for everyone

    So we wish to ignore “who’s” liberties are affected blind to discriminating among laws and who they pertain too. ~ No longer a law for all but a law for each. I can’t prove I’m an American Citizen in 15 minute if you gave me an hour warning and had mother in tow. I might only have a copy of my birth certificate.

    • PragmaticSort

      We seem to be getting into “abstracted hypocrisy” of sorts, I see hypocrisy everywhere I look. This thread worries about down side of amended liberties and in the Arizona SB1070 thread we are celebrating amending liberties for everyone

      Looks like it only amends rights for those in our country illegally. Since when do illegals get full rights in any country? Send them back and severly penalize those that hired them. If a business cannot survive without illegals, too effin bad!

      • Bob Wire

        and exactly how do you know “these” illegals and deny them “these rights”? There a things referred to as “probable cause” of a commission of a crime. So what might be “probable cause” in such a case and “subject anyone” to their rights under law and due process.

        I assure you, being subjected to your rights is not always pretty or comfortable, much less affordable.

    • Doug

      Better get a Passport there hot wire if you don’t like the law then I suggest you get the Federal law revoked that’s all this law is about and actually enforcing it!

      • Bob Wire

        I don’t like the law and you won’t either for it going to cost you “CASH” and not do what you think it’s going to do. You’ve just sold one more personal freedom by appealing to simple thinking as the Pied Piper blows his flute and people walk lock step it the Ditto Head Ball.

        • JeffH

          Bob, as much as your comments are bassackwards so is your pied piper thought. The pied piper is your messiah and spiritual leader Barack Hussein Obama leading his sheeple off the cliffs edge.
          Nice that you to think so highly of Limbaugh though.

          • timr

            Barack ‘Hussain” Obama……….

            JeffH is proving my point for me………..don’t you think, American Citizen???

          • JeffH

            timr, and what point would that be? Possibly using an apostrophe in place of a quotation mark?

        • Cindy

          Wrong again Bob Wire;
          It will cost the taxpayers LESS because we won’t be paying for the illegal aliens welfare checks, food stamps, gov. subsidized housing, free medical care, schooling, transportation, or English speaking classes.
          Why don’t you actually read SB1070? It is a carbon copy of the Federal Govs. border law, with 2 exceptions that are actually a bit more lax and protect the illegals right against stopping/profiling, better than the stricter Fed. law.
          You are starting to appear a bit pathetic as you continue to slip your liberal spin, and speculative opinions into your eloquent speeches.

          • http://yahoo.com marc

            I agree cindy on all the above except english speaking class’s.The illegals that don’t speak english nor spainish but dialects from whatever province they’re from are being taught spainish becase english was never declared the official language of the united states.

          • Cindy

            Marc,
            That may be true in some places depending on the number of children and total resident population of Spanish speaking people, but in many places English speaking lessons for them are actually listed in the school budgets. They feel they will assimilate into society easier if they learn the language that the majority speaks. The exceptions to this would probably be the largest cities where they have large populations of only Spanish speaking people, who know no other language.

  • http://comcast.net Charles Lindberg Ogle

    This is the only thing I have been able to praise Barack Husain Obama for doing…good going, president Obama!

    • Harald

      Keep looking, Charles. There’s plenty more! And you don’t have to use his middle name. But, if you do, please spell it correctly.

      • JeffH

        …sure you’re not tiny timr?

      • Da Norseman

        What, Harald, is it because you don’t like to hear his middle name because it sounds too Muslim for you?

        • timr

          You know exactly, why you use it, Da Norseman………so don’t insult us……….

          • JeffH

            timr with another “conspiracy” theory?
            Paranoia mind destroia

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Charles Lindberg Ogle,
      If an administration can deny on a whim an American citizen his rights guaranteed by the 5th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: “…nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law,” what other rights are you willing to allow an administration to deny? Whether it is an administration you agree with or not, do you feel safe ceding your rights over to a politician? What if the administration decides the 1st Amendment is no longer convenient, the 2nd, the 3rd, the 4th (which USA PATRIOT Act already does)? Is that okay with your? If you feel Awlaki’s actions constitute treason, Article 3 Section 3 explains how to deal with that. Blowing a person up with missile doesn’t fit the constitutional definition of due process.
      Sometimes, adhering to the Constitution is difficult. But the best time to make sure the Constitution is not shredded is when it is difficult to adhere to.
      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • REX KIRKES

    obama is ruining the american way of life,if there is anything to this
    2012 stuff he will have us in world war 3 and there want be no election and he will stay in office destroying our way of life and all our freedoms as americans.It gets worse and worse the longer he is in office.(MY OPINION)I guess we can still say what we think!

  • Duston Rose, LTC USA (RET)

    The intent of Mr. Livingston’s article is obvious, which is to get everyone focused on the potential dangers we face when our fundamental constitutional rights are in anyway abridged. President Bush warned us of the “War in the Shadows” that would have to be fought in order to combat the world wide movement that al-Qaida purports to be. Unfortunately, our elected officials and the press have chosen to publicly discuss the methods used, and thus have brought the combatants “out of the closet”. Instead of keeping the “Black Arts” quiet, they continue to insist on giving our enemies all the help they need to stay one step ahead of us. A good case in point occurred a few years ago when a columnist announced to the world that the CIA was able to track Osama Bin Laden whenever he used his cell phone…which he stopped doing immediately thereafter. We do live in a very free society and we are right to question any government action or law that would limit it; however, we must also empower our government to protect us. If we choose poorly and are foolish enough to place our lives and treasure into the hands of those who are ill prepared to do so, then only God can help us. November cannot come soon enough

    • JeffH

      Duston Rose, LTC USA (RET), very well stated and “on target”.

    • 45caliber

      You are correct about the press. When Desert Storm came down some years ago now, a reporter one morning gave the exact location of one military unit – then he went on to tell exactly how many people they had, what they were armed with, the fact they didn’t have any ammo, etc. When I called about it, the news people said that the “people” needed to know what was going on. So I called a Congressman and that type of stuff stopped. No wonder the enemy calls our newsmen “spies”.

      • Pat R

        The Media has definitely changed their mind now! You can not force them to report the facts today.
        This is all because non of them have the balls to say anything honestly about what is really going on today. All of the network news agencies have been threatened to be shut down if certain subjects are discussed (ie: Birth certificate, SS # ) Some reporters have been shot, their homes fired into, and family threatened. This is totally insane!!
        IMPEACH Now!

    • timr

      Mr Rose…….I will ALWAYS salute the service that you and others have provided for us fellow Americans……..

      But Bush blew it……he just blew it………he had the World behind him after 9/11, and he could have fought this war like it should have fought it, NOT by invading Nation States, but by hunting down these RATS, where ever they were holed up………but when he went into Iraq, he dropped the ball…….too many resources were being channeled, to go after and stop an isolated enemy like Saddam……..and for 9 years, Aghganistan suffered, as did the hunting of Terrorist cells………..

      He let his “personal” goals, trump fighting these terrorists in a smart way…….Many Army Generals, said that going into Iraq would be catastrophic…….

      Like I said, the American Soldiers do their jobs better than ANY fighting force in the history of the World, they are Brave dedicated, and Isalute them everytime I visit my Father’s grave (Korean War Veteran)……and everytime I see my cousin, who was a medic in Vietnam…….

      Unfortunately, it is the Politicians who make the wrong decisions on War………..NOT the Soldiers…………

      God Bless you, LTC Rose……….

  • WarriorH

    Will the courts uphold Miranda Rights voice mail messages?

  • eddie47d

    Both Joe and Sheryl spelled Jehovah wrong but Tim got it right. Maybe the liberals know the Bible better than you.

    • libertytrain

      I’m not sure that it is necessarily wrong…just not the current more popular spelling -

      • JeffH

        libertytrain…birds of a feather…just can’t avoid the obvious.

        • libertytrain

          JeffH – with all that’s been posted today from the left, I have this image of a room deep in the WH where all they do is visit this site and post – and we’re paying their salaries – can you see it?

          • JeffH

            libertytrain…easy to imagine. It’s as if there is a manual of operation with specific guidelines. As you can see, never stray outside the guidelines.

          • libertytrain

            I wonder what the reward is for their posts that garner many replies?

          • JeffH

            libertytrain, probably as much as another gets for sitting on his/her arse…spread the wealth they say. It’s not about equal pay for equal work with them. Afterall, it is free money isn’t it?

    • timr

      I can only take credit for the correct spelling, because I have a brother who is a Jehovah Witness………….

      • JeffH

        …the only one to give you credit is yourself…now that’s interesting…timr giving himself a pat on the back…

      • libertytrain

        Well of course, that makes it correct.

        • timr

          LibertyTrain and JeffH………separated at birth………..

          • JeffH

            …far better than being seperated from the real world…Ask and you shall recieve…

  • Steve

    Obama and his socialist buddies must go starting in Novermber. We just need to maintain damage control until then. Thanks Mr. Livingston for all you do.

    • Steve

      Hey NEW Steve, I am the old Steve.
      Would you please add your last name initial to your name so people don’t get us confused.
      I especially don’t want Bob L. thinking I am you and am trying to kiss up to him because I am trying to get a date with his daughter ;-) Thanks

  • eddie47d

    Chief Eagle; What are you chief of? Incoherent B.S.

    • Cindy

      eddie47dud;
      Don’t worry eddie, you will ALWAYS be the “Chief” purveyor of the B.S. around here. None of us even come close to you. Your main competition is the anti-American liberal, with Sidewinder and dumbiso tied for 3rd, and “baby huey timr” with his whining uneducated rants coming in a distant 5th.

  • http://ken.robbie@yahoo.com Kenneth Murray

    If you people want the truth about Obama, go to the library and check out Obama’s two books. The first is titled {THE AUDACITY OF HOPE} and the other is titled,{DREAMS FROM MY FATHER}, both written by Barack Obama. If, after reading both of these books, you are still unshaken,then you are truely unmoveable. Hurry to the library before these books are pulled from the shelves.

    • 45caliber

      Actually, it turns out that Obama didn’t write the books. They were written for him by one of his communist friends – the one who used to blow up stuff and now is a professor teaching our young how to do it.

      • timr

        Ignorance lives, thanks to 45 Caliber…………

        • JeffH

          …and ignorance also dies by 5.56…

          • JLC

            Hi JeffH — Is that, by chance a reference to 5.56mm?

          • JeffH

            JLC, very astute my friend! Try M855 green tips to be exact.

        • Enigman

          Hey timr, 45caliber gives us facts and you call him ignorant. Explain that to me. You must be a liberal. When you can’t defend a position, you resort to name-calling and character bashing.

          I’ll give you more facts:
          Obama lies- he said his administration would be transparent. It isn’t. It has never been.
          Obama says he wants bipartisan participation then he refuses to invite the Republicans to the table.
          Obama said, “No more special interest groups” then takes tons of money from labor unions, various businesses, the insurance companies, and anyone else that would help him get elected.
          Obama’s publicity people invited a bunch of doctors to a White House lawn meeting and promised them they could ask him questions about the health care bill he wanted to pass then. Most of those doctors were against the bill but showed up for the reason promised. Then, as they arrived, they were given doctors smocks to look authentic. Obama then went on to claim all those doctors in attendance were in support of the bill. That was a clear and outright lie.
          Obama bashed Bush for spending too much money. Since he’s been in office, Obama has spent more money than any previous president ever, tripling what Bush spent. And you people support him on that? Now he wants to spend even more to “stimulate” the economy. Let’s see, the first two bills he passed that were supposed to “stimulate” the economy failed. Now he wants to pass a third bill and spend more. Sounds pretty stupid to me.

          Don’t any of you liberals get it? This guy, Obama, is deliberately bankrupting the country. When there’s nothing left, then he’ll blame capitalism for all our problems and convince you that he is the only one who can then take care of us all. Sounds a little Marxist to me. Oh that’s right, he loves Marxism. He supports Marxism. So much so that he’s even brought admitted Marxists into his administration. Does the name Vann Jones ring a bell? Mr. Jones openly stated that he was a Communist. And you if you think he’s out of the picture, he isn’t. He’s somewhere in the background getting his two cents worth in.

          I could go on and on, but for what? I could never reason with you, a devout liberal. So now I guess you’ll be calling me names or bringing up Bush lies. Probably both.

          Obama-Ever heard of Lucifer?

          • timr

            Hey Enigman,

            Yes, when I read garbage, like Obama is a socialist or Communist or Muslim, or Hitler……..YES, I do question such idiotic name calling of the President………

            Fact…..Obama is the FIRST President, after promises from other Presidents, and the “raping” of the American public for years, ……………to do something about healthcare without worrying WHAT the Insurance Companies and the HMO’s think………….

            And keep on saying that he is ruining america, because THAT, my friend, is not intelligent thought, it’s just BASHING………….

            So spare me the lecture about liberalism and all of that………and stop crying like a baby, because you LOST in ’08′………

          • jbird

            timr,
            The insurance companies and HMOs didn’t oppose this bill because it turns them into government-regulated monopolies (like utility companies) where they no longer have to compete for business and provides them 30-40 million new customers. Why would they oppose that? You really need to get your head out of your butt and educate yourself. Obama was no knight in shining armor riding to your rescue. His policies are job killers and business crushers. Wait and see.

          • timr

            JBird..Get YOUR head out of YOUR backside…………..

            45 million people, many of them children, will have healthcare……………….Boy, that certainly threatens your livelihood, doesn’t it???

            Your’e just as selfish as your cronies, and it makes me sick……..I hope you people can look in the mirrror every morning……….

            America has turned into a ME ME ME Society………..and it’s Sad……….

          • http://www.personalliberty.com/contact-us/ Personal Liberty Support

            timr, You can always be counted on to respond with no facts and a couple of personal attacks. Ask any business owner what the healthcare bill is going to cost him or her. Want a few?: Increased bookkeeping costs to comply with new tax regulations requiring 1099s for any purchase over $600, 30% higher healthcare costs, employers dropping coverage and forcing employees into Medicare. States are responsible for Medicare and they are having budget problems. Many doctors no longer accepting and/or dropping medicare patients because of low reimbursement. Closing of Dr.-owned hospitals, resulting in fewer choices for care. Again, education would be a good first step for you. And by the way: the purported purpose of the bill was to insure 30 million or 40 million people with no insurance, but that doesn’t start for four more years. Guess it wasn’t such a crisis after all.

        • JLC

          JeffH — I have one of Bill Ruger’s little gems that digests the same fodder. A couple of generations removed from the bigger one that I carried in 1944. I like it!

          • JeffH

            JLC, I just built mine late last year…California compliant complete with a flat top, 20″bbl standard A2 buttstock and compensator. We’re only allowed a 10rd fixed mag. I like it a lot…got a 2.8 x 10 scope and it’s very accurate. I hope to find a spot to harvest a coyote ot two this year. Plenty where I live.

          • timr

            Boy, this red-neck talk is boring the CRAP out of me………..
            I hope you don’t hunt with Dick Cheney……………

          • JeffH

            timr, you’re really on a roll today. To think that you’ve critisized others yet you still continue on…what flavor ice cream will you serve tomorrow, other than the generic liberal flavors?

      • Stan B

        His name is BILL AIRIES

        • JeffH

          Stan correct with a slight correction…Ayers

    • Bob Wire

      now , you think that a probability? Kinda like 43 shadowy military records? ~ Read Glenn Becks bio while you are at it.

  • eddie47d

    The likes of Jack; You tore into Obama for not reacting fast enough over the latest shoe bomber even though no one knew his immediate intentions until he got on the plane. Now we have Awlaki who has threatened America and you want to tippy toe around the issue. Which side will you be on next week?

  • eddie47d

    Joseph at 7:13; Shame on you and all the others who grandstand on the use of Nazi. Your comparisons are lame in comparing anything to that horrible world event. Your not even close and that goes for Glenn and Newt also. Bob Livingston loves to bring out the hate with his whacko conspiracy theories. Be scared,for missles are aimed at you,so run. What swill!

    • JeffH

      …you’re such a character…no questions about where you stand…sadder days are just around the corner fast eddie47d…

    • Bob Wire

      eddie , that’s what I was think as well, but I’m being told there’s a deeper meaning to this article, something to do with exposing some hypocrisy or something to that affect. I’m not certain if it’s presented and disguise in sarcasm or what? My first impression is “this is awful” surly Mr. Livingston a more skilled writer and knows we are not all “simple”

      I will read the lead again, very closely, looking for some insights I might have overlooked. Willing to apologize if one due.

      But even this picture with a rife scope cross hairs on a subject accused of being engaged in crimes again America, fine maybe for a personal joke between friends, but it sets a bad tenor when used on an international level. If he is a bad guy, let’s not tell him we are zeroing in on him. If he’s a good guy, (holding back a bias evil snigger) he need to get shave and Hair cut and maybe a new hat for his next photo opt.

      Threatening is for children, I prefer such matters be a promise. The bullet has already left the barrel or offer nothing.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Bob Wire,
        Let me see if I can clarify for you. President Obama has put a hit on an American citizen living in Yemen. He wants to kill the man by using a Predator drone to invade the airspace of a sovereign nation that we have not declared war on. Doing so would be an act of war against Yemen. It would violate the man’s rights guaranteed him under the 5th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and violate an executive order against state-sponsored assassinations issued by President Reagan. Meanwhile, foreign nationals captured by CIA operatives with the aid of other nations’ security forces or on the battlefield (the people in Gitmo) who actively planned and financed the 9/11 attacks (if you believe the government’s version of events) are being afforded a U.S. trial by jury with court-appointed attorneys.

        I’m unable to respond to the rest of your post because I’m not sure I understand what it means. If you are intimating that I broke the story about the hit on Awlaki, you are wrong. It’s been in the media for several days, including The New York Times. I didn’t put the crosshairs on Awlaki, Obama did.

        Like most people responding on this article you are lost in a left/right paradigm. Until you escape, information such as this will continue to sail right over your head.
        Best Wishes,
        Bob

        • Mick for thought

          Bob he left this country and joined the enemy. He plots aggainst his homeland and helps train terrorist to attack us. He has made himself target like any other leader of a terrorist organization.

          • Claire

            Mick for thought—You are correct is what you say. Therefore, I am a firm believer in going after this “Cleric” or whatever he calls himself. I am all for whatever it takes to get this guy or anyone else that promotes terrorism against America. The past administrations had a chance to get bin Laden–did they do it? No. Do any of you think for one moment this creep will NOT do harm to America if he gets the chance? In this situation and with what all is going on regarding terrorism, I prefer to get “them” before they “get” us.

  • Godwin

    We need to be careful not to let our sentiment drive us to the wrong direction. What has the president done to attract such hatred from a particular race of this Nation. We can deny all we want or paint it any how but the truth still stands out in the open. Stop your unnecessary attacks on the President,rather it is time to work together as a nation to find solutions to our current problems. Every task the president is facing today, he inherited. Terrorism, Iraq, Afganistan,Bad Economy, Health care to mention but a few were all there when he took office. Why attack him like he started the whole mess. Let us remember, we are not the first civilization and will not be the last.We must do what is right or other Countries will learn from our mistakes associated to discrination and skin colour hatred.

    • Doug

      Can you come up with another play book. It was the last administration that put us in this position! Please come up with something new!

    • 45caliber

      Please get off the racist argument. I’d dislike what he was doing if he was pea green. His race has nothing to do with it. It’s what he is doing – or not doing – that makes me dislike him.

      • JeffH

        45caliber that is part of the liberal makeup…promote racism at every turn…excuses are for losers.

        • timr

          Because the Republican Party is SO Diverse……………..

          What a joke………..

          • JeffH

            …a diverse Republican party? You are the only one to say it…and the only one laughing too…talk about a pat on the back…

          • Bob Wire

            timr, Ha ha! well when you have a party attempting to get everyone to cast a wealthy man’s ballots, the task is indeed diverse and complex.

            The wealthy, have but one vote just like the rest of us, yet they are less then 2% of the population. This places them against overwhelming odds at the ballot box (where the will of the people speaks)

            This requires them to get “proactive” having to spend money to encourage people to see things their way. They are very cleaver at this and been doing it for many years. Karl Rove is one of the greatest at getting people to vote against their own self interest.

            Therefore the GOP is comprised of the extremely bright,well heeled and middle men ~ and those that wish to be. The true middle is missing!

            But they call themselves the middle and proclaim common values we all find noble. ~ The rest of us don’t count and look on with total disbelief!

            America is complex and made more so by all the different races and religions these people are saying don’t matter and not the reason for their disenchantment. Yet offer little details why they are.

            Clever! no?

          • timr

            Bo Wire,

            although I agree with much of your last blog, I must take issue with claiming that the Wealthy have only 1 vote like the rest of us……..

            The wealthy have Lobby groups, if you recall…………but Workers, can’t have collective Bargaining…………

            Then middle class have NO voice anymore……….

    • Stan B

      You muat live in outer space, check OBUMMA’s back ground it’s all out there, then tell me another stupid story……WAKE UP all of you no nothing professors, it has nothing to do with RACE, it has to do with who and what he is !!!!!!!!!

  • owldog

    I could live without the macho hyperbole and Mr Prez bashing, but this is a valid point, especially from mind of a Neocon tribesman.

    Both Norway and Obama are at historical risk of playing both sides of the proverbial coin and losing the flip in the bigger picture.

  • Da Norseman

    Back during the First World War French Prime Minister Georges Clemençeau was quoted as saying that war was too important to be left to the generals. He might have been right at the time when he made that statement. Today, there is war against terrorism, which is too important to be left to current DC politicians where they neither have the time nor the training. They’re busy! They’re preoccupied with other matters! This current administration and the quack leadership of the 111th Congress seem to behave like a careless bunch of amateurs that cannot tell one end from another. Then there is all these apologies! What is there to apologize for? The incumbents in there now have really soften up to these hostile idiots who want nothing better than to destroy the very foundation of this nation like the Club for Thugs, which is better known as the United Nations.

    America still needs to wake up!!! This November will be crucial. Hopefully we will throw out these careless incumbents and replace them with fresh new blood dedicated to protecting our nation and her people. We definitely need to get out of the UN and demand that crooked organization leave U.S. soil and move their headquarters somewhere else. We don’t need them spitting out their hateful venom all over us. We would be better off without them!!!

    • JeffH

      Da Norseman, I’m wih you all the way to the end…well said and agreed.

    • 45caliber

      I agree with most of what you said, but I disagree about the U.N. I think we need to remain a member for information purposes if for no other reason. On the other hand, I also believe that we should exercise our right of veto on a lot of the garbage they try to pass off. But too many Dems believe that they MUST go along with whatever the U.N. comes up with because “most members voted for it so it must be good.” I wish we were more like Russia – if they come up with a bill that violates our Constitution or limits what we can or can’t do it should be vetoed.

      • JeffH

        45caliber, I disagree…the UN is another tool for a “one World” government. Boot ‘em out on their arses, don’t pass go and don’t collect the hundreds of billions of American moolah they squander.

      • American Citizen

        The “U” in UN stands for “Useless”. Get the UN out of the US.

  • http://mog7@cox.net06042CT Muriel P. Goyette

    Praising Obama? ….Lord, now we know who’s been indoctrinated as surely as the Commie Red Brainwashing was. Not one single favorable syllable re the country of USA has been uttered by that creature even during his campaign. He was elected BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK. There is not one basic American value in his whole soul as evidenced by his rhetoric. The PRESIDENT OF THE USA HAS REFUSED TO ENFORCE THE LAWS OF HIS OWN COUNTRY. anD the muslim controlled HOMELAND SECURITY has also declared they will NOT ENFORCE THE LAW OF IMMIGRATION EITHER. Impeach that president. Can you not recognize the evil damage to the liberties of this country he has done? He makes Congress pass laws that they do not have TIME TO READ…TO ENABLE HIM TO PASS LAWS THAT ARE CONTRARY TO THE GOOD OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. CONGRESS HAS ENABLED HIM IN THIS CAPACITY. SO HAS THE SUPREME COURT. Open your eyes. He does not even attempt to hide his illegal actions. You sound EXTREMELY YOUNG AND NAIVE. Your anti-American president is NOT naive, but deliberate in his America crushing actions. Get those incumbents out in mid term elections. Why does he pay $2 MILLION to HIDE HIS RECORDS? That denotes all manner of sinister. Recommended reading: THE MANCHURIAN PRESIDENT.

    • timr

      Are you Joe McCarthy????????

      • Stan B

        No dum dum that lady is intelligent, she’s right on the money, and you are two year s old or just plain STUPID…..You make the call ~!!!!!

        • timr

          StanB,

          She says Obama isn’t American……….

          Who’s being stupid, here, my friend……….REALLY???

  • Ironyman

    When I read this I saw irony. That foriegn terrorists are given a right to full American protections and an Amerian citizen gets targeted for death without the same protections. I saw the weird logic the author was trying to explain, apparently not succussful to some. Basically it is who decides who is a terrorist and what to do with them. Does the current regime classify this? Does it make claims that people are and Enemy of the State because the opposition opposes them? When there is a regime change, do the winners get to strike back at their opposition? I agree with sending Anwar al-Awlaki to hell quickly, but I think that some controls need to be put in place.

    And I think Obama is confused about what he is doing in practally everything he has done so far. At least I hope this is a series of misguided beliefs and not part of a plot of some equally confused and badly implemented plan. Maybe this plan isn’t transparent enough so the plantation donkeys don’t get scared of there coming nail gun.

    • Harald

      Ironyman, granted that there should be controls to apply rules consistently. But what is there “confused / misguided” about wanting to bring the hillbilly side of the USA population on par with the developed world? This needs EDUCATION reform and HEALTH reform badly.
      Education is needed to regain competitiveness in the world. New, unique technologies for the American manufacturing/service sector.
      Healthcare reform is needed to ensure that you don’t have to die of a serious condition just because you have not reached the millionaire’s club yet.
      Seems very basic and straight forward to me. Agree, though, it doesn’t help to provide tomorrow’s potatoes. But- to see the big picture and lead toward sustainable growth and a nation without day-to-day worries about healthcare cost – that’s what leaders are for.
      What is confusing: Suicide bombers and other religious fanatics operating in Manhattan under the guise of Free Speech. Just how do you deal with such foggy characters? That is not what the Constitution had in mind. It’s not constructive criticism. So, let’s think by ourselves. Times have changed. Let’s pass a law that sends those people to where they belong: Either their homeland or, if borne here, to Baffin Island or similar controllable area.

  • mark

    The difference between bobby boy livingston and any other religious wacko whether christian or muslem is…. oh sorry, there is no difference. Clearly bobby boy is trying to insight one of his sheep to take out our pres in this spue. Don’t you religious type find it odd that all the hate, death and harmful wishes towards others all come from these people of God?

    • 45caliber

      Go somewhere else to spout this vomit. It isn’t deserved here. I don’t have to be a Christian, Muslim, or anything else to take care of traitors.

      • timr

        Who was the one who outed Valerie Plame????

        Not one, so-called patriotic conservative, will admit to what happened to her………..Not even the N.Y. Times, who were part of it as well………….

        • JeffH

          timr, when you leave the room and come back in later, remember that Valerie Plame wasn’t part of the discussion…Valerie Plame…who really cares besides you!

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear mark,
      What a ridiculous and unfounded statement.
      All the best,
      Bob

    • JeffH

      mark, did you ever find the guy that “shot yer paw”?

    • American Citizen

      You obviously have a comprehension problem.

    • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

      Well at least all of us religious wackos aren’t beheading those who don’t agree with us. We usually pray for them. Tada…………Dumb a..

    • rwnut

      mark…Watch this and Shut up!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FM-ezylcAU

  • 45caliber

    I’ve got to disagree with Livingston on this one. As far as I’m concerned if an American citizen leaves this country and then makes war against it, he’s fair game. Frankly, I’m surprised that Oblama had the brass b**** to actually agree to this after everything else he’s done.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear 45caliber,
      Please see my reply to Charles Lindberg Ogle 9:30 above.
      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • owldog
    • Steve

      Yeah I’m sure the muslums listen to that a lot, right before they cut peoples heads off. Or maybe “Kum Bai Ya”, or maybe a little “We are the World”

  • William Lord

    What is Mr. Livingston’s and the far rights terrrorist policy? They complain when we give accused terrorists on our soil Miranda rights and treat those operating from foreign bases (where we can’t read them such rights) as terrorists subject to military action. I thought the right was in favor of a true war agains terrorism. Or is much of the “war” really to complain about anything the Obama administration does.

    • Harald

      Yes, William, it is!

    • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

      You really have to much free time.

  • owldog

    The rights endowed by the creator don’t end at citizenship any more do they belong to any religious belief. The founders stated this before we even had a Constitution.

    The whole concept of of American Citizen rights to share in the benefits of the land are separate from the “human rights” protected by the Constitition. The are not the same acccording to the founding fathers.

    The Constitution was the first governmnent document in history to guarantee human rights for all, endowed by the Creator, not only nationals. In that way it has stood as a model for others.

  • owldog

    The sad irony of Constitutional human rights, of course, is that the African American and Native Indigenous Americans people were not identified as “human” by the popular culture at the time.

    But the Constitution has, at least, been an inspiration for progress, even if not yet attained, as a culture. In this way, it nurtured human progress, and continues to inpire human progress, though that inspiration is in jeopardy of being lost by our abandonment of due process and trial presestation to establish guilt [drones and assasinations]- using fear and security as an excuse.

  • American liberal

    Owldog… Good post…. Our founders wrote the constitution and Bill of rights as an example as to how all humanbeings should be treated… Humanrights don’t just apply to Americans…. It’s also why the founders made a point of keeping religion and government seperated…our founders were a lot smarter than the so called rightwing Christians of today..

    • WarriorH

      Well then, why is this administration calling for a partnership with religious groups? Remember last week when Nancy was speaking about all of her converstaions with the bishops, archbishops, cardinals, et.,al? Please explain.

  • jeff reaper

    What do you expect from a foriegn-born admitted Muslim that now occupies the white house. You idiots that voted for him should be tried for treason!

    • Harald

      Reaper, where have you been, are you, will you be?
      Amazing, just absolutely amazing. I keep seeing a one-column gas station in the middle of nowhere with a toothless, pipe-smoking ignoramus sitting beside it… in a trance.

      • timr

        Listening to Country Music, and dating his sister…………

        • libertytrain

          Your incredible hate manifests itself so strongly – so sad from one that proclaims to be a helper of human beings.

          • timr

            LibertTrain, I call it as I see it…………

          • libertytrain

            Apparently you don’t see very far.

      • Cindy

        Well Harald, you’re not looking out a window you fool, you’re looking in a mirror! If you don’t like looking at that ugly face, WALK AWAY!

  • jeff reaper

    The national socialist of Germany were called Nazis. Now America is full of Nazis and they are trying to take it down and make her a 3rd world nation under a Nazi one world government. Liberals started the KKK and have kept an underclass of people by paying lazy people not to work and have babies. This nation is on the 11th or 12th generation of welfare recipients. Boot the illegals out of here, close the borders and there will be jobs for every CITIZENS. What don’t you understand about the word illegal. 3 presidents in the past have booted illegals out of this country to have jobs for returning soldiers, so yes it has been done before.

    • timr

      Sorry Jeff Reaper……..we will become a 3rd World nation, because of politicians love of Free Trade agreements…………sending Jobs overseas, selling out the American Worker…………..losing our Manufacturing base…………

      I NEVER hear conservatives talk about this…….NEVER, becasue they are in bed with Corporate America……….(along with most democrats)

      • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

        Timr,
        you need to go back to school and have some of those socialist professors shove some more of there idealistic crap down you throat. Wise up, nothing this president is doing has worked anywhere in the world yet. Why? Because we are frail human beings with egos an a need to survive no matter what. Your idealism would work if the leaders of these countries where really on board. But power corrupts and as you should know absolute power corrupts absolutely. There is village somewhere on this planet looking for you.

        • timr

          Pat Davis,

          you were probably too STUPID to go to College anyway………..

          I had many different professors in College……..and I studied International Relations and Political Science…….I had 2 American Government Professors, who admitted, at the first lecture, that they were Republican……..but I learned alot from them, because, back in the early 80′s, we weren’t so close minded and polarized as we are now……..

          and most of my Professors, I couldn’t even tell what party they might have been affiliated with………

          • rwnut

            timr….All that gibberish and you won’t answer her question.”Nothing this President is doing has worked anywhere in the world” Wht?

      • KASI (AMERICAN)

        TIMR,most companies that left for overseas were trying to escape the federal burdens placed upon them,they left for survival.What would you do in the same situation,i mean its easy to say greedy corporation but if its that or file bankruptcy i really dont blame them.What about all of the unionized corps. that have moved.One of the worst things for a business is a union just ask GM and Chrysler

        • timr

          Kasi,

          Your statements are absurd………

          corporations left because they got GREEDY……and found cheap Labor……….pure and simple……….

          So what your’e saying, is that, this Country of ours, who built up the Middle Class and our standard of living, that we should start over again, and compete with the Mexican and chinese workers???……..

          Then Management at GM and other Car companies got STUPID…….and it wasn’t until after their poor marketing put them in a bind, THEN they started blaming the workers………….

          The management at these Car companies blew it……….but let’s just blame the guy, who was on the line, for 40 years, working to support his Family……..

          Yea, let’s blame him…………..

          You people have NO idea, how we built up our Middle class in this Country……..NO IDEA…………

        • JeffH

          timr says: “You people have NO idea, how we built up our Middle class in this Country……..NO IDEA…………”

          And it’s obvious you have “no idea” on how the current government is breaking the middle class down…you’d rather be a participant in that process with “no idea” whatsoever!

    • rockinroll1064

      “The KKK was started by liberals”HAHAWHOHA!!!WOW,never ever thought I would hear this from this silly site!

      • libertytrain

        it was started by democrats – do a little research -

        • timr

          Yes it was, I agree………..but then, they became Republicans……

          Face it, back then………..just about everyone had their hands in the bucket of racism………..

      • KASI (AMERICAN)

        ROCK IN ROLL,look back in our history and youll find that slave owning king supporters were socialist,at least the ones that really treated the slaves badly and yes northern slaves were all but free would either have a house of their own or would be allowed to sleep in the (masters home) the kkk was founded or truly organized by fdr supporters (new world order people) LOOK ON THE BACK OF A $1.00 BILL AND UNDER THE PYRAMID YOULL SEE ONE WORLD ORDER GOOGLE IT TO TRANSLATE THAT WAS AN FDR DESIGN THAT HE HIMSELF APPROVED

        • timr

          Hey Kasi……..or should I call you Quasi…….??…..as in Quasi-intelligent………???

          To say that the KKK was FDR’s doing is flat out revisionist……….

          I’ll grant you, that neither party back then, could hide from slavery…….or could claim they were superior on that issue……

          • rwnut

            timr..Leave it to you to pretend to be the expert on racism. The one who opens nearly every statement with,”racist”,if you don’t agree with every black issue. I thought you only wanted to look forward. What about the present? Why won’t the Black Cacas in Congress allow a white Congressman to join? Your past demons are still eating the hell out of you!

  • wayne

    Who is next? The choices are fairly obvious…

    Rush Limbaugh
    Glenn Beck
    Mark Levin
    Michelle Malkin
    Ann Coulter
    Karl Rove
    Dick Morris
    Sarah Palin
    The entire list of attendees at any given Tea Party Rally…

    Seriously though, there is a particular reason they want this guy dead verses rounding him up: He was a part of the operational leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood INSIDE the United States. He had contact and spent time and worked on MB causes that may very well have close contact with people and organizations that are intimately connected with current administrations both state and Federal around the country and many in the Progressive constellation of organizations.

    He, if captured, could prove to have information that could be extremely harmful to members of the University elites that are friends and associates of the advisers and czars in White House, political organizations that are highly connected to the Democratic party, certain members of Congress, and might even have information on support and funding that helped to create and promote the guy who sits in the Oval office.

    Someone dragged into court that has the possibility of being able to prove that the President of the United States had in recent years worked directly and comfortably with ground troops for Al Qaeda fronts would be … harmful to our Dear Leader. It would be really hard for even someone like Eric Holder to bury info that came out of the case against this guy.

    Whether there is a smoking gun here or not, they certainly want this guy turned into a silent ash pile ASAP – which should make anyone who is aware of usual Progressive insistence on protecting terrorists rights wonder what the story really is behind all of this .

    • mark

      Really Wayne?

      I’m just gonna put you sarah pallin
      over here in the sarah wayne
      pallin dingbat file.

      • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

        Mark,
        Go to school fool!

        • rwnut

          Pat davis….He went to school. (words removed for offensive content)

    • Harald

      Maybe it’s just the recognition that the diplomatic approach doesn’t work in all cases. So, let’s have the balls to change our approach.

    • Pat R

      Wayne:
      I think you are probably on to something here. With the Guilty Verdict of the Columbia-CIA-Obama Trial in Harlem headed to the halls of Congress very soon now; Obama is going to cover his trail even more.
      Most of what you stated above was brought out and a verdict of “Guilty” was rendered.
      Obama definitely has many ties to the Taliban and al-Quaida while he was in Afghanistan. No wonder he wants to take the Cleric out now!

      That POS is still a very conniving and dangerous man!

      IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

    • Bob Wire

      Quote;Who is next? The choices are fairly obvious…

      Rush Limbaugh
      Glenn Beck
      Mark Levin
      Michelle Malkin
      Ann Coulter
      Karl Rove
      Dick Morris
      Sarah Palin”

      Well Wayne? ~ I see only one threat in you line up, but that said, hardly worth soiling ones soul over. But I’d admit all qualify as worthy candidates as a poster child for “Planned Parenthood”.

    • rwnut

      wayne…The Muslim Broyherhood,Nation of Islam,Louie Farakan,Black Panthers,Rev.Wright,Black Liberation Theology.These organizations and people flow in Big O Hussiens veins.This could be the guy that makes the connection.They are sworn enemies of America.All of a sudden he’s very eager to snuff someone.

  • owldog

    interesting point, wayne

    • Harald

      …but pure theory. Another Obama enemy, that’s all.

      • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

        harald,
        who ties your shoes in the morning.

        • rwnut

          Pat davis….The same person that helps him put on his panties and dress.

      • rwnut

        Harald…Your only reason for being on here is to do some communitie organizing for THE LIAR IN CHIEF.Anarchy and stirring up -hit.

  • chuck b

    amer lib

    there you go again, quote: our founding fathers were a lot smarter than the right wing christians are today. “the founding fathers were mostly right wing christians, contrary to your marxist beliefs.

    • timr

      So let’s kick ALL non Christians out of this country…………
      I feel sorry for the little Alter boys…………..

      • libertytrain

        Altar.

        • JeffH

          …to think he bragged about spelling Jehovah…the horror of it all surfaces once again…

          • rwnut

            JeffH….Give’em enough rope and they’ll hang themselves everytime.Truth will always win!

        • rwnut

          libertytrain….His spelled it the way he intanded.He wants to ALTER them boys.

      • KASI (AMERICAN)

        alter boys are catholic,you dont care enough to know

      • chuck b

        timr

        kick all the alter boys out of the country?? i didn’t know muslims have alter boys!! but, otherwise that would be a good atart.

      • rwnut

        timr…We know how you feel about the little altars boys.

  • ONTIME

    Stupid is as Stupid does, this guy communicates by blackberry and speaks by teleprompter, he is a lib, a unknown, a un credentialed, a unvetted electee, he is inexperienced, uses phrases and facts poorly and has little or no regard for history….You tell me why this clown was allowed to become a POTUS and it will be easy for me to give a explanation for why we are slipping into a very precarious era of lethargy and irresponsibility.

    • JeffH

      ONTIME, I’ll take a guess…just three simple words got him elected: hope and change…think about the simpletons that put their countries future in the hands of this Marxist based on “just” those three words…scary to say the least.

    • Bob Wire

      Quote:”Stupid is as Stupid does, this guy communicates by blackberry and speaks by teleprompter, he is a lib, a unknown, a un credentialed, a unvetted electee, he is inexperienced, uses phrases and facts poorly and has little or no regard for history….You tell me why this clown was allowed to become a POTUS and it will be easy for me to give a explanation for why we are slipping into a very precarious era of lethargy and irresponsibility.”

      Now don’t you feel better? Ever considered Stand up Comedy, ~ your a natural! Larry the Cable Guy is doing quite well, I understand.

      • rwnut

        Bob Wire… Can’t refute the facts can you.Oh I forgot,the leftwing liberals don’t deal in truth and facts.

  • http://verizon.net neil davidson los angeles

    WHEN READING ALL THE BLOGS ABOUT OBAMA IT IS AMAZING THAT HE DOESNT HAVE THE BROWN COATS OUT LOOKING FOR PEOPLE OR MAYBE HE DOES ?? HE WANTS TO CONTROL AMERICA AND THEN THE WORLD, DONT BLOGGERS GET IT !! AMERICA IS HIS FIRST STEP. RUINATION ALL BUSINESSES AND FREE TRADE, CONGRESS HAS BEEN HELPING HIM OUT.

    • timr

      Neil,

      Obama, wanting to control the World……..??/

      You mean, like Bush…….trying to spread Freedom all over the World, in America’s image……..???…….based on his born-again beliefs??????

      Another guy who was in a coma for 8 years……..welcome back, Neil…

      • rwnut

        timr…”Refuse not to be informed:for that shows pride or stupidity”.
        William Penn
        Which is it timr? Pride or stupidity.In your case it’s both!

  • ROBERT E. CALLAHAN

    Dear Friends, I like many Americans was happy when Obama was elected, not because I voted for him, but because of how my country had matured to the point where we could as DR. King said a man could “be judged by his character and not the color of his skin.” Many people did not look into his character, many people voted for him because they wanted to see a black man in office. (Technically he is half white). Now to vote for Obama solely because he is black is an example of racism, because your decision was based solely on race.
    Before Obama became president, he voted for the bailout of Wall Street. Which made me wonder about him? After he got into office, the first appointment he made was Hillary Clinton for the State Department. This definitely upset me; this was not the change he promised. What other promises did he make? More transparency! Securing the borders! For the most part all he has done was ram a health care bill through most of the American public does not want.
    I am from Hawaii, I have asked many of my friends if they know anyone who knew Obama and on Oahu it should not be difficult to find some people that knew him. Up to now I have only met one person who claims to have known him in school and his memories of him are not flattering.
    I decided to look deeper into Obama and find out what I can about him. I highly recommend to anyone that still supports him does the same. In my mind, Obama is without a doubt anti-American. He is a Socialist / Marxist. He wants to take America and change it from a Sovereign country with freedoms protected by the Constitution and make us part of a Global One World Government, under the control of the United Nations, where our rights come from the government and not from God. Is this what any of us want?
    If you look up the name Richard N. Gardner, of Columbia University (where Obama attended) you might find it interesting to find out that a plan to change America was based on the idea that you must first destroy it then rebuild it into the Socialist /Marxist Utopia that the progressives envisioned. Obama is not alone; there are plenty of people that have for a long time believed that the “Government” is supposed to take care of the people. You may even be one of them!
    The truth is America is the most charitable nation on earth. Even now when there are may millions of people out of work. We continue to send money in the form of foreign aid all around the world. We continue to allow 1.5 million people to legally immigrate here each year to compete for jobs that we do not have. America is hurting and we need time to heal and get back on our feet. We have to stop behaving as is we are still the rich nation without a care in the world that can afford to give money away. Just to go out and borrow more! It is senseless We are borrowing money from the Chinese and at the same time giving it away to who knows how many countries. Our heart is bigger than our bank accounts and we must make our decisions base on reason not emotion.
    America has always been a nation where people live on the fruits of their labor. Not felt entitled to the fruit of someone else’s labor. If you feel that the government can and should provide for you, you need to understand that the government has no money of its own. It takes money in the form of taxes and then redistributes some of it to those in need. This works for a while, but what happens when the country is flooded by uneducated, unskilled labor that for the most part cannot provide for itself and must rely in whole or partially on the fruit of other people’s labor? At some point, people realize that they are being taxed to the maximum and they cannot bear the burden of supporting so many needy people. It is basic math and the money needs to come from somewhere! Charity is something that comes from the heart and is given freely. People who believe in the redistribution of wealth as Obama run contrary to the core beliefs of Americans.
    Please, if you appreciate America, value the Constitution and believe America should remain a sovereign country, it is your duty to keep a watchful eye on your government. Do not be blinded by emotion! Look into Obama’s past and the people around him, implication of his actions as president. Some people automatically called me a “Racist” for being concerned or calling things as I see them. I can honestly say none of my decisions are based solely on race. Obama and the progressives he support are going to bankrupt this country. No matter how you feel about Obama, you know you cannot spend more money than you have.

    • owldog

      “…Obama and the progressives he support are going to bankrupt this country. No matter how you feel about Obama, you know you cannot spend more money than you have.”
      ————————————————

      Huh?

      It was already bankrupted (not counting the economic crash of 2008) by Republican neocons when he took office. Bush doubled the debt. He was just a stooge, but DEBT was part of the long term exit strategy of the Neocon-inspired Republican party for decades.

      Let’s not forget “Starve the Beast”

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast

      • KASI (AMERICAN)

        Oh my god,its unreal how hopeless you people are,how do you fix Bushes mess, spend more money than he or any other president (COMBINED) if you didnt like bush for spending too much money how can like obama for spending more in the first three months of his presidency than bush did in eight years.Six of those eight years we had highest economic growth in history until the dems gained control of the house and senate yea thats right did you forget or did you ever know that in the first place.The market crashed because of the housing bubble,there was a housing bubble thanks to government intervention into the market (FREE THE MARKET AND FREE THE PEOPLE) but i know what you gonna say “but the free market is is spewing millions of gallons of crude into the gulf” well we wouldnt have to drill in the gulf if the libtards,ecofreaks would get out of the freakin way and let us drill on land where there is more oil than the saudis could ever dream of.Morons you people are a bunch of morons that are destroying this country ALL IN THE NAME OF WHAT.People have lost pride in our country that all there is to it really and pisses me off like it should everyone who believes in our constitution

        • owldog

          You can have your own opinion but not your own facts. Figures are hard to say exactly. It’s a moving target, but the debt was around $5 Trillion when Bush came into office, $10 Trillion when Bush left office, and is about $11 Trillion today, even with all the stimulus to get us going again.

          The sky is not falling, Chicken Little

  • Bill Heath

    The so called Barry Soetoro his real name. The ILLEGUAL SO CALLED PRESIDBNT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SHOULD BE IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY. He hires ZWARS WHO ARE ALL COMMUNISTS AND MARISTS AND
    YET THE HOUSE AND SENATE HAVE NEVER VOTED ON APPROVAL OF THESE HIGH
    PAID THUGS. HE IS PROTECTING THE MOSLINS, AND IF YOU WONDER WHY FIDEL CASTRO AND THE VENEZUELA THUG CAME OUT TO HELP OBAMA IN ANY WAY – WELL THE PUZZLE IS FITTING TOGETHER. THE US SUPREME COURT SHOULD
    ORDER TO PROVIDE HIS AUTHENIC BIRTH CERTIFICATE HE WAS BORN IN KENYA,
    THROUGH HIM OUT OF OFFICE IMMEDIATEL TO SAVE THIS GREAT COUNTRY – THE
    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. OBAMA HAS HIRED LAWYERS TO SEAL HIS IDENTITY, AND THE US GOVERNMENT IS PAYING FOR HIS LAWYERS FEES.

  • http://none Les Thomas

    I’ve got a couple of thoughts that I’d like to share with everyone. If you got excited because a black man got elected as President of the United States – does that mean that you are racially biased? You should be ashamed of yourself to think that this is a symbolic message that America has finally moved toward equality.

    In other words – if you really do believe that it doesn’t matter about the tint or shade of someone’s skin – then why get excited about it in the first place. In my eyes he was just another person who was elected into a position that was suppose to represent what the majority of Americans wanted.

    What has happened from that point has gone completely down hill. It has nothing to do with the shade of the mans skin – it has to do with the direction of his heart. Some call that direction Socialism – some call it Communism. The way I see it… the guy is an educated idiot who will stand in front of you and lie openly and then defend his lying position.

    He has had the balls to stand up in front of America and challenge issues that have needed to be addressed for the longest times – but his solutions or ideas for solutions would lead one to believe that his motivation is to destroy America.

    I truly believe there is an secondary motive to what he is doing. He wants to move America more toward the behavior and attitude of other countries of the world instead of being the country that leads the world into democracy and freedom. Imagine being remembered as the man who destroyed America. Not very popular within the United States – but a hero to every other country in the world who hates America.

    For all of you who think Obama is great and he is doing a good job – simply answer one question: “Is it okay for me to remove your freedom, ever so slightly, inch by inch, a little at a time – until eventually you have no freedoms, and because it happened so slowly – you never even realized it – until it was too late?” Now keep in mind – this does not require any long drawn out answer – keep it simple – Yes or No.

    Freedom does not come free. Everything is not okay. There are limits to what this country will accept and not accept. What I am saying is that everything has limits.

    Some believe it is okay to have an open door policy here in America, while literally thousands of illegal immigrants crossing from Mexico are not of Hispanic or Mexican heritage… they are coming from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Portugal, and Mexico. They are not all coming here to open a business get a job, and send money home – they are terrorist hell bent on killing you and me.

    I could go on and on and on about the different issues that Obama has crammed down our throats and all the changes he want to make to insure we continue our march toward becoming just another country in this world, and not the America, the leader of the free world – but it would take too much time and I’ve got other things I need to be doing right now.

    The bottom line is this… if the guy is a terrorist – I don’t care what citizenship he holds – if his goal is to kill Americans – then shoot the bastard! In fact if you need a volunteer – I’ll do it.

    For the rest of you – who want to see this country go by the way of the rest of the world… don’t think for one minute that we will go peacefully into the night. There is a price for Freedom – and many of us are ready, willing, and able to make sure that freedom stays right where it is.

    • Bob Wire

      Bravo!, intelligent is color blind ` not bound by race , creed or gender

  • http://gmail i41

    a lib, and all your phony friends, are full of crap, Omoron and his mobster radical goons, keep the following Alinsksy’s hand book. Dems and their socialist clowns have advanced too damn fast in changing the USA to a EU styled government. Now the numnutted radicals are having to regroup, since the Tea Party fist hit their running lights. Omoron is going to peddle his BS on being tough on terrorists. Kill a few goat foundlers and every numskull media and socialist will claim Omoron is really fighting for the USA. Omoron is still a muslim and will be putting the blame on his group around him, or the miliary, or any other shirt tailer of his. Why doesn’t he go after the muslim agitator “Rev” Wrong, or Calypso Louie Farkacong over spouting their anti USA and white popualtions and promoting white exermination? Why first, they are the new understanding socialist muslims, secound, they are black, one of the protected groups. Three, they are all democrat socialists welfare rats, for several generations and still don’t do anything to be productive and support themselves and spawn. But sell drugs, lie,steal, and breed like all muslims do.If the socialist democrats didn’t have the white race to rax and get money to pay for all the welfare progams they dream up. Lib and his ilk would not be able to live off the taxpayers money and whine about capitalism! They would all be living in mud huts and living in the warm climates eating road kill, and not stinking up the colder climates, but staying warm and doing nothing with their hemp ropes but stretching their necks.

  • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

    Right arm, right arm. You go guy.

  • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

    (huh) where you been?

  • http://gmail i41

    All you communist democrats, whar turnip wagon dod you fall out of, his skin color has nothing to do with the people being angry towards him, he is a imposter, all we know he has a dark skinned sire, his dam was white, he was raised as a muslims for years, in the formative years, he went to schools in a madrasses, muslim religon instills lying to non=muslims, has spent 20 years in a socialist former muslim nut job of a “preacher” presence. He was raised as a marxist, socialist by a group of anti-USA jug heads, surrounds himself with domictic terrorists in his inner circle, embraces total government control of everything, with appointed over educated basket weaving wonks, has taken over most all media, banks, finanical institutions, and education. With all the legs knocked out from under our capitalistic,freedom and small government beleifs dead. We have too many feel good , wealth give away idoits, so everyone get paid the same, no matter what they decide to do in life, it is handed to lazy asses, too dumb and srupid to work, and all welfare rats, we all pay for. Now the Sec of State, is signing a UN bill to control our ability to buy ammo, any size or type, even in the USA, unless approved by the UN. Next it will be gun control, even though the dems and Omoron said they had no interest in our guns or make any control laws. It will be be an executive order so Congress will not vote on it. Do you hear a single Socialist democrat open their multi use otfices in their faces to say a word. They never will because ” All” democrats are spineless and want total government control on everything, they are even ignorant enough to think mankind can control the climate.

    • rwnut

      i41….HOORAH fellow patriot!

  • Da Norseman

    The National Socialists – otherwise known as the Nazis – Communists and Marxists were all bounded together by Socialism!!! The Commies and Nazis could have gotten along because their belief systems were almost identical by having control over the people through collectivism and they had leaders who were mass murderers: Mao Tse Tung murdered over 160 million; Josef Stalin with over 30 million and Adolf Hitler with over 6 million. Above all, both parties were power hungry, including the Marxists. What separated them? The struggle for power! One wanted power over the other.

  • http://gmail i41

    Somebody has to work, so the dems and welfare rats, on this site are able to get their food stamps and free government roosts or burrows built be illegals, they are too damn dumb and lazy to feed or build shelter for themselves. If a lib and his inbred,illegimate homo erectus kin, would quit sucking on their thumb and dreaming of Sarah Palin, and get a real job, not connect the dots in their play room padded cells!

  • D J Rogell says

    Hay why is everyone so quick to blame the ptesident. Put the blame where it belongs on the Congressmen and the Senators everything goes through them to be passed Now is the time for us to clean house, get rid of those that lobby and pay to get what they want from our goverment officials that got their hands in all of the big business pockets.We put the poison in the goverment now only we can get it out. Vote man not party. Vote for the one that can help the people and this country and not themselves. Most that run for office are poor when they go in but come out rich Do the math.

  • American liberal

    I knew it wouldn’t take long for the “Ultra Rightwingers” on this site to start defending the terroist… Awliki has joined the terrorist…. He’s calling for the deaths Americans… He’s choosen the enemy… But what’s are these conservatives doing?… Defending the terrorist…Awliki wants us dead… He’s now become a “friend to the rightwing in America… I have no problem sending him the ultimate message….and if Rush, Beck, Hannity start calling for the deaths of Anericans I’d have no problem arresting them like we did traitors like Tokyo Rose…..you’ve missed the point if you think being an American citizen gives the the right to join the terrorist Taliban to help plan and cheer the terrorist on…. I’m not suprised at this artical.. Some people would sell their country out for a buck..

    • JeffH

      ” He’s now become a “friend to the rightwing in America…” Keep your Alinsky traits out front for everyone to see. Making the absurd even more absurd…unheard of until now!

    • Steve

      Selling their country out for a dollar? I heard you’re doing it for free!

      • http://www.horsepowercars.com 383ci

        American Liberal isn’t selling out his country for free.
        He’s getting his welfare check and food stamps every month, same as all the illegal aliens.

  • Ms L

    I can’t to vote in November! 2012 can’t come quick enough-vote this anti-American President and his Chicago thugs out of office! Send all of them back to Chicago “thug city USA!”

  • MattAZ

    This is all very sad to read. The Republicans blame the Democrats and vice versa, and the liberals blame the conservatives and vice versa. Regardless of who is to blame, there are still problems that need to be fixed. Congress has been the key problem in the last several years. Corruption is rampant on BOTH sides of the aisle. I will not vote for John McCain this November. The man does not care about his constituents regardless of what his television and radio ads say. The worst part of America now is the politicians. I do not agree with the liberal point of view, nor do I agree completely with the Tea Party point of view. I do think, however, that the Tea Party has the right idea when it comes to elected officials. Let us all, regardless of our political beliefs, choose elected officials that are truly of the people and not of the established political system. Let us choose people that listen and use logic to make choices as our representatives instead of those that use bank accounts and kick backs as the basis for their decisions.

  • eddie47d

    i41;Dang it I told you to get rid of that ol’ mule,your still frothing at the mouth. When you do find something useful to say please carry a bucket with you to catch those after thoughts.

  • eddie47d

    Jeff H.; I knew you weren’t always a clear thinker and Bob has proven that. I’d say your talking out of both ends,but go ahead and bow down to Bob and everything he says and does. Your not just a sheeple for the right your a parrot. Jeffy want a cracker,Squawk,Squawk! Jeffy want a cracker,Squawk,Sqwawk

    • Da Norseman

      Tsk tsk! Eddie47d is really turning into a complete fool by showing off some immaturity!

    • JeffH

      adiie47d, now you’ve hurt my feelings….brilliant I might add, just brilliant

  • Da Norseman

    How to stop Muslim extremists and those engaged in Jihad from carrying out their heinous crimes against humanity? Deny them the paradise of going to heaven where they are provided with an eternal supply of virgins. Muslims detest pork. Pigs to a Muslim are considered filthy animals. They are not permitted to eat or even touch pork. They are also not permitted to even touch a pig’s blood, its entrails or its guts. Since terrorists are willing to die for Allah and end up in this long sought after paradise, they are denied paradise if they consume or touch pork and, therefore, are doomed to go to h***.

    Take fifty of the most violent ones already in captivity as well as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and have them executed. But prior to that, have the terrorists dig a big hole for their grave before they are tied up to the posts, bring in two pigs and slaughter them in front of the prisoners (they will be horrified), marksmen will take the bullets and soak them in pig blood before loading them into the rifle chambers, execute 49 of them and let the fiftieth man go. Throw the bodies into the hole, burying them with the pig remains including the blood, guts and entrails. As for the “lucky” man, he would have to tell the other terrorists of the horrors he had seen. This has happened in Moro Province in the Philippines back in 1909 where terrorists were executed in this way and there wasn’t a single terror attack by Muslim extremists over the next 41 years.

    These dimwitted leftists, including these human rights and amnesty groups, will only want you to believe that this will only “make the terrorists angrier.” Let’s face it…they are insane! Only a sane person gets angry. No more of this soft and subtle approach, which only fuels terrorism.

  • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

    Eddie47d there you guys go again with your cowbells liberal b.s. Wise-up maybe go back and repeat hi- school or something . But this time pay attention in history class and take some coarses in gov or something. Study the second world war or maybe look in the mirror and study a fool.

    • Da Norseman

      The liberals were never interested in learning American history. It was too much information to cram into those tiny little brains of theirs.

      • timr

        Kind of like Sarah Palin………

        “I’m experienced in Foreign Policy, because I can see Russia from my house”……………

        What a hair-brain……….

        • JeffH

          timr, you guys critisize FOX listeners…can I critisize someone for quoting SNL Tina Fey and then believe anything you say ? NOT!

          What did Sarah Palin really say about Russia? Can she see Russia from her house?

          The line “I can see Russia from my house” was uttered by Tina Fey playing Sarah Palin on Saturday Night Live (SNL).

          Now Palin did say this: “They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.”

          a little history lesson for you: Yes. Russia and Alaska are divided by the Bering Strait, which is about 55 miles at its narrowest point. In the middle of the Bering Strait are two small, sparsely populated islands: Big Diomede, which sits in Russian territory, and Little Diomede, which is part of the United States. At their closest, these two islands are a little less than two and a half miles apart, which means that, on a clear day, you can definitely see one from the other.

          How’s that well worn leather sole taste?

          • timr

            I’m aware of the area and it’s Geography……….

            What about her not being able to tell Katie Couric what Newspapers she reads………..

            Give me a break………..(words removed for offensive content)

          • Steve

            JeffH,
            Please don’t confuse timr tim timmy Tim with the facts. His little mind is already smokin from “information overload”, and we don’t want to lose him. He is an important “entertainment factor” to this blog ;-)

          • JeffH

            timr…”Give me a break”? I don’t think you deserve any more than what you give…sound fair?

            You can say “so what” all day long but it doesn’t cover the mis-information and rhetoric you spew daily!

            You lead the league in one statistic though: (comment removed for offensive content)…in baseball lingo that’s called strikeouts, lost saves or losing percentage!

        • Da Norseman

          Katie Curic?!?! Not very bright at all!!!

  • http://www.hotmail.com marylou

    Does that REALLY surprise anyone but those who are brain dead.
    All the clues have been in your face from day one.

    He is a Muslim. Once a Muslim, always a Muslim. He is not a Christian or a Jew! He hates, he lies and lies and lies!
    Look up the word, “Dihimmitude” on Google and Snopes. It’s all there in black and white for you.
    He bullies, bribes and intimidates, does anything to destroy.
    Doesn’t care if his followers get left in the dust and destruction..see losing congressmen who he ignored. They were expendable! So are you.
    He is out to destroy America’s Health care, Auto Industry, Banks, Wall Street, and Insurance Companies as well as the Military who he totally disrespects. He is so TRANSPARENT, he’s hidden everything from his BC to College records and now we find he has two SSN which is illegal.

    • denniso

      Your screws are rattling…

      • Cindy

        sorry dumbaso, wrong again. That noise you hear is your last 2 screws have fallen outta your head, and are rattling around on your mommies basement floor.

      • rwnut

        denniso….You have the traits of someone who is screwing his rattles!

    • Stan B

      MaryLOU I’ve found someone with brains and intelligence thank god, your on the money honey keep going…..

    • Bob Wire

      What fuels this flame of hate? I could understand it if it was directed to Bernie Madoff or Charles Manson, or Godfrey Dommer .

      Post Quote;”Whether Awlaki gets blown to bits by a Hellfire missile or shot in the head by a sniper, he’s dead and the U.S. government has become judge, jury and executioner.”

      yet well, Like one Islam mother said to another, ” They just blown up so quick anymore!”

      You unleash the dogs of war and things gets out of control every time. Bad things happen to bad and good people. You ever make it to one, you find uncertainly in control of your bowel much less anything else. But don’t fret, it flakes off when it drys. Anyone wanting a ring side seat can expect to get soiled with sweat, blood and “lasting” impressions.

    • timr

      Marylou……..this Healthcare system is ROBBING people…………

      (words removed for offensive content)

    • Mick for thought

      Lots of paranoa and name calling. No substance or information but you write weel for an 8th grade child.

  • http://espionageaction-actionadventure.blogger.com Stephen Russell

    Make up your mind, Obama Regime.
    NO more Dble Stds.
    Make Uniform or get NO respect.
    3 Stooges in the White House or DC:
    Obama, Pelosi, Reid
    Obama, Barney Franks, Chris Dodd.
    etc.
    Now add your own DC 3 Stooges.

    Is this Funny or what.

    Is that missile from Iran overhead I see?

  • Don

    The level of paranoia and hatred in most of these comments is truly amazing

    Incidentally, The Republican Governor of Hawaii has stated that she has seen Obama’s birth certificate and found it to be authentic. This begs the question: Why would a Republican Governor make such a statement if it were not true?

    • Steve

      Ever heard of the acronym R.I.N.O. Don? She’s a R.I.N.O. or else she doesn’t know what the hell she’s looking at.

      Don, since you brought it up, just answer me ONE QUESTION. No liberal or Obama supporter HAS EVER answered this. They just pretend they don’t see it.

      THE QUESTION—> If Obama has legal U.S. citizenship, why has he spent between $1.4 and $1.8 MILLION DOLLARS on lawyers and court fees keeping us from seeing it? <——- THE QUESTION

      Did any of you liberals see the question?

      And don't try and tell me that the BC he shows online is it, because it is NOT. That is NOT A C.O.L.B. and would not get me a drivers license or a renewal in my state. I think we the citizens of the U.S. have the right to see the Presidents C.O.L.B., don't you?
      We saw John McCains C.O.L.B. when he was questioned because of his birth in Panama.

      WHAT IS OBAMA HIDING? WHY IS HE HIDING IT?

      Why doesn't Obama just show it and put the issue to rest?

      • denniso

        Get over it fella, obama is the president and all your whining won’t change it. The birth certificate issue was and is bogus and has been laid to rest. Time for you to get on w/ some other way to trash Obama.

        • Steve

          Thanks for proving my point dumbiso. Adding your name to the long list of ignorant liberals that can’t answer the question, and can’t even properly defend his spending $1.4+ million dollars to hide it.

          Laid to rest? ha ha, it won’t be laid to rest until he shows it!

          • Bob Wire

            I don’t know it to be fact Obama has spent money on attorney fees regarding his “birth certificate”. I’m not going to waste time digging for such information feeling it might be difficult to locate even if it true. However, I did uncover a April Fools hoax I post below. If “some people are going to play dirty tricks” of this nature, I could see anyone having to lawyer up and defend themselves. For as we know “people claim” to see Elvis at Dunking Donut.

            >>>Birthers seize on document as evidence of “unconstitutional” presidency

            By Joe N.S. Indiana

            Published: Thursday, April 1, 2010

            Updated: Wednesday, April 14, 2010

            The following article was originally published in the Harvard Law Record’s 2010 April Fool’s Day edition and was intended as satire. Many of the comments from birthers that follow, however, are very real.

            Harvard Law School librarians made a stunning discovery in a long-sealed chamber in the basement of Langdell Hall Monday night, when they indicated they had found what they believed to be a copy of President Barack Obama’s original certificate of live birth. Individuals who believe the president’s extra-American birth invalidates his presidency rapidly seized on the document as further proof for their claims, flocking to courts to seek injunctions on a number of executive orders and bills recently signed into law, including the vaunted health care reform act. HLS archivists said that the birth certificate was “no doubt” the original copy submitted by the sitting President upon his enrollment in the law school in 1988.

            Although copies of the President’s birth certificate have long been posted online and certified by government officials in his home state, many doubt its provenance, claiming that the online document is merely a “certification of live birth” rather than a “birth certificate”. Others claim to have seen birth certificates placing Obama’s birth in Mombasa, Kenya (Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen), or other foreign locations, such as Indonesia, where Obama lived as a child. The President’s political opponents occasionally mock him as a “citizen of the British Empire,” a reference to Kenya’s status in 1961, the year of his birth.<<<

            You attempt to make a "Grassy Noll" issue of this, which by the way, while in Dallas last week , visited the Book Depository and walked the Noll, I uncovered, a spent bullet, NATO, 7.65 mm. 30 cal. lodged in the dirt, condition excellent. Bidding starts at $5000, dollars and will close November 11th 2010. Contact, Upyour Hindend C/o Junior Samples at at 783-5554

          • rwnut

            Steve…HOORAH FELLOW PATRIOT. And when the truth finally comes out I’ll bet we’ll finally see that it’s our tax dollars that’s paying for him to hide his life.I have never heard of anyone that ashamed of his life.

        • timr

          Amen, Denniso

        • Right Wing

          denniso try applying the same pseudo-logic to your posts on Bush. It should work because he is no longer president you moron.

          • denniso

            If I reduced myself to your low level of smear and name calling,it might feel good for a few minutes but would also validate your tactics. Grow up…

        • rwnut

          denniso…I think we can accomodate you on other ways to trash the Big O. Instead of repeating two or three pages of points that have been thrown at you already,I’ll say this. He;s a proven,habitual liar. Right on the floor of the Senate. Don’t blame us dingyso,you’re the one who keeps begging us to trash him. Just curious,but how much are you getting paid to smear this site? reminds me of Al Shrimpton smearing that young girl with excreta and blaming it on whites.

          • denniso

            I’m not getting paid enough to put up w/ some of this childish nonsense here. You guys are partisan,unamerican hacks,who set out to destroy any Democratic president, no matter when or who. You’re only concerned about regaining power and make a charade of caring about the country or the constitution,of which you care nothing at all. You and your masters Limbaugh/Savage/Beck/Cheny don’t care if you destroy the country in the process of trying to ruin Obama and get a Repub fool like Bush back in power…you people are the real traitors to our country.

    • libertytrain

      Don – I’m guessing your question is to make people giggle a little?

      “Why would a Republican Governor make such a statement if it were not true?”

    • timr

      These birthers won’t let it go………..and it comes from pure hatred……….

      • Louis

        So once again the liberals can’t answer the question. You just throw your best chides at it and hope the issue will go away. It’s not hate timr. I am black. Does that make me a racist, or full of hate because I also want President Obama to answer this question and put it to rest?

        Bob Wire; You doubt he has spent this much? Do you not watch your own lame stream media outlets, such as NBC, ABC, MSN, and CNN? Have you read a newspaper in the last year? I know, you know that the 1.4 million dollars he has spent, is the truth because you do not appear to be a stupid man. Your fluid writing on here shows you are an intelligent person, so how could you not know that Obama has spent this much money in his court cases fighting the release of his real birth certificate? Feigning ignorance is not acceptable for an intellectual person such as you are Bob.

        Denniso, Just more of the same ignorant rhetoric from you, and not worth commenting on, but thanks for adding your drivel and making all liberals look stupid.

        • Bob Wire

          No ~~~ I didn’t know that. I apologize , my thoughts are my own. I’ve found it wise to read and not engage is food fights. Like Mc Cain said, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and he likes it.

          So you are saying, lawyering up is somehow an “admission of guilt”

          What a strange world you live in. You must really enjoy Mayberry. I did too, but life has got a little more complex as I grew up, tackled the world and made my mark on it. I have enemies, for I refuse to bend, lie, or have some sweet benefactor pay my freight.

          Either you have no life and no experience or you are protected from reality. In any case, there are nights, I wished I were you. It was a sweet time of innocence.

          When you are attacked, first you ignore and when it doesn’t go away, you come back strong and defend. ~ Any president, is slow to attack, for the position is to represent “all the people” ~ Now if there is something about that you fail to understand. Consider this conversation over between you and I.

          • Cindy

            Bob Wire;
            Your highly refined intelligence, and personality, that’s reflected in your words, is starting to crack and fall away Bob.

            Bob Wire says:
            *What a strange world you live in.
            *You must really enjoy Mayberry.
            *Either you have no life and no experience or you are protected from reality.

            Why didn’t you just call him an oreo Bob? Do you have a difficult time talking to black people Bob? You are starting to slip into the lower liberal camp with denniso, timr and the rest, when you slander and belittle someone that you can’t intelligently respond to.

          • Right Wing

            Bob, some might think that teaching a pig to dance takes too much effort and many more productive achievements could be realized. But what is time….to a pig?

          • rwnut

            Bob Wire…. Right, like he proved he represents the white people of America also,when he called the white cop stupid and defended the lying black professor.Yes, racism is still alive,and it’s black racism in the White House!

        • Bob Wire

          So true, Right Wing, It makes me wonder if this “really is” something new, ~~ a new threat! Just offhand I want to think that in many ways that it is new ~ to Americans anyway. I’m not versed all that well in Muslim history, but I know it’s rich and long.

          For one thing, America is a new idea! just a little over 200 years old. To my knowledge we are the only nation that does not have a “National Religion. So is more a matter of “them” coming to us with this religious baggage that seems to transcend ? ~ It was what? 56 or 58 when the Middle East struck oil.

          American history is rich in much division , in our early years there were incidents with question of divided loyalty , several time in fact.

          But I can’t help but think this is something completely different, more “faith” driven.

          I think you just dropped a nugget, Mister.

          • rwnut

            Bob Wire…Maybe this will give you something to think about.Maybe not.I doubt it.
            God and America…There is no dissonance in these declarations.There is a universal language pervading them all,having one meaning;they affirm and reaffirm that this is a religious nation. These are not individual sayings,declarations of private persons: they are organic utterances; they speak the voice of the entire people…that, “this is a Christian nation.”(U.S.Supreme Court,Church of The Holy Trinity vs.U.S.,1892)

      • Right Wing

        timr why don’t you just type “uuuuhhhhhm” instead of “…….” because I am sure most people reading your comments make the substitution anyway. Try reading “War and Peace”; that should keep your lips moving for a while.

        • Mick for thought

          Tr reading War and Moral responsibility. I was picked it up the commander of Fort Campbell’s garage sale. By the warren corners it was read by him. A good read

      • rwnut

        timr…Damn right we won’t let it go! We’ve got our claws in this lying pretender in the White House and we ain’t letten’ go till he starts telling the truth about a lot of things!

  • steve

    obama is the best republican yet, look at how he is destroying the democratic party. he is throwing the baby out with the bathwater..
    i laugh my ars off when ever the clown appears, did you see what the people in chicago did to him last thursday ? holy carp this guy is going downhill so fast he’s setting a new record!!!

    • Steve

      New Steve, I am the old Steve. Would you please add an initial to your name? Even though I agree with most of your posts, it will keep the other posters here from confusing the two of us.

    • Bob Wire

      >>>look at how he is destroying the democratic party. he is throwing the baby out with the bathwater..<<<

      Oh really? Then you have little to fear, Steve?

      • rwnut

        Bob Wire….You confuse laughter with fear. No wonder you’re always sideways!

    • rwnut

      steve…HOORAH. I’m laughing with ya’!

  • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

    Timr,
    The Joe the plumber remark finally explains you. You’re on welfare or food stamps. God forbid you get a job and be an asset to this great country. Or are you the Canadian idiot that’s blogging on this site?

    • Bob Wire

      Joe the Plumber; has few consolidate notions about politics, like the “Ice Age” mammoth lost at birth and grew up thinking he was a possum. He grazes his way through life like a mammoth yet harbors confusion with his brothers and sisters nocturnal instincts.

      • Right Wing

        Your analogy, while entertaining, fails to make any solid connection to a comparison of political ideology? Is there something you were attempting to say that might actually make sense to you?

    • timr

      Pat,

      NO, I’m not on Welfare, and I actually have a Job, and own a home, and have two sons in college………..

      So, Joe the Plumber IS……..your hero, huh???……….I guess you can relate to him, because people like he and Palin, make yourself sound smarter………THAT is why so many people take to them………it makes them feel……”represented”……….

      • Right Wing

        tim you know you can omit your text stutter…..right?

        • Cindy

          Ha ha ha ha…Now that’s FUNNY!! :-)

          • denniso

            Pat….you are just copying what so many other rightwing loonies on this site do… making personal attacks on people you disagree with because you don’t have the intellectual depth to use reason and thoughtful argument. Pathetic and sad to see so many humans who are clones of one another and repeat the same mindless blather.

  • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

    Is anybody freaked out about the fact Obama taught costitutional law in Chicago.

    • timr

      Not at all……..it’s refereshing to have someone of intellect in the White House, after 8 years of………..the Crawford “Ranch”

      • rwnut

        timr..Intellect? You don’t even know what his grades were.He’s kept all his records and papers hidden.And he sure as hell never brings up the Constitution now.

    • Mick for thought

      No, it at least it means he read it unlike the former vice commander in chief and his puppet Bush.

  • Bob Wire

    No, not at all, I try not to freak out anytime, but I do find it concerning that “some Americans’ consider “stupid” a virtue.

    Unable to rise to the occasion, they attempt bring things down to their level. There is a warm fuzzy feeling created when we feel we can look “down” on someone, every if it required untruths, vicious lies or fabricated evidence. And the Ivory Tower weather forecast for today is, Party Sunny with chances of Gloomy latter in the day.

    Everybody “needs” someone to look down on, who wants stand on their personal achievement all alone at the bottom. darn’t it all! Might get a inferiority complex. We can’t have that!

    Schools of higher learning don’t give “education” away, ~ each student works hard for it. Ask any student!

  • Mack

    The next target is any indvidual, conservative politician, or news entity which does not toe the democratic party line. The upcoming elections will be down and dirty, anything to hide the truth of what
    is really going on.

    Watch how involved SEIU, UAW, Moveon.org, Acorn and a host of other
    far left, radical movements will be involved in the fray.

    • JeffH

      Mack, they’ve already been involved in the “fray” since their inception.

  • David

    For USABOOTOBAMA:

    You have to stop accepting Fox news blindly. They represent those out of power whose first (and usually only) priority is getting back in power. They will say anything, and do anything to piss enough people off so they, without remembering who drove the country over into the ditch, might vote for that incompetent crowd once again.

    Here are some of our Socialist programs that existed in the US well before President Obama came into office:

    Social Security is Socialism. Medicare is Socialism. US Veterans medical care is Socialism. Medicaid is Socialism. The US Coast Guard is Socialism. The entire US Military is Socialism, Our public school system is Socialism. Public libraries is Socialism.

    • denniso

      Our millions of miles of roads,our water and wastewater systems,our airlines(subsidized by gov’t),railroads and trucking industry(using
      roads paid for w/ taxes),and most or our mining,logging and energy industries all subsidized by gov’t.

      We achieved the largest economy in the history of the world,the most powerful military and the largest middle class ever w/ all of these ‘socialized’ aspects of our society. Societies come together in ‘socialized’ ways to further all society. It’s not quite the same thing as ‘socialism’ though,which is technically when gov’t owns the means of production, which we don’t do.

      Bush and Obama bailing out the car co’s and some banks and getting part ownership in the companies in order to save them and the economy is only temporary and doesn’t count as ‘socialism’.

  • http://remodelraleigh.com Doug

    When I hear our great country not defended in front of a tyrannical president whose job has been to send as many of his countryman north illegally, I cringe. When I see our prez bow in front of Islam, again I wonder.. But when I see Israel’s PM, our staunchest ally, not get as much as an introduction or state dinner, it is all crystal clear. Our leader is deliberately defiling us in the worlds eye. No, we are not always right in all we do, but we are the best in the world. We are still a country of Christians who believe in God and that His son Jesus died for our sins. Right or wrong we defend our country. We may so that we do not agree, but what is going on now at the highest level is subversion. It is lies, thievery, bribery, payoffs and traitorous. Twenty yrs of Jeremiah Wright should have been enough to show us all. All Black saw was Black, even if the conscience was proved wrong, I am afraid. We can only trust in God. The time and end may be near. Get to know your heavenly Father. He Loves you.

  • Bob Wire

    They not going to ever do that! ~ That’s Ditto Head Central!

    Rupert Murdock is feeding the masses! Like Sermon on The Mount!

    It’s amazing what can be created with 40 Oofs and 40 fish stories!

    I’m kinda wanting to see Palin there, though her voice make me want to stomp baby chickens! ~ I don’t think she has the ability to focus or depth of the issues to be nimble enough for good sound bites on a quick moving program.

    Her voice should be a national treasure and secret weapon much like ” Walt Wittman’s” yodeling affect alien’s ~ your head wants to explode!

    • Right Wing

      Try lithium Bob. Maybe your theatric posts featuring macabre chicken dances will meld into a cohesive thought process.

  • http://www.facebook.com Magee, Robert H.O.

    The Obama Hitman: First A Cleric who Next?

    Thank you all for your comments on this issue. May I share my view which is very much a disagreement with the ideas that the President is out to destroy America.First we all know that is a lie.

    Everyone need to understand the current global leadership is held by the United States and more than 180 countries have this down and their citizens believe in this simple fact-US Leadership is supported by more than 180 countries that form the United Nations.

    Leadership is not about destroying others.Leadership is about helping other countries to establish the rule law, create democratic processes and share scarce resources fairly. Fair in a manner to help every country gain comparative advantages from global economy.

    Having said that the American born cleric has an agenda to destroy what America does and therefore, as a US citizen he is wanted as a criminal. The cleric may be accused of treason against his country, just as some of you should for expressing negative views against government and your President. We really take things for granted.

    He, the cleric, has influenced a few fundamentalists to attack American interests and that is what the President is concerned about and you should be concerned too. The Presidents and his administration want to defend against such terror by targeting him to leave the rest of us peaceful. How can that be wrong in your own view?

    While I do not support the idea of assassinating any criminal before any court hearing, I think the cleric can be brought to justice and doing so the Obama administration has not broken any laws nor is this action against America, as some of you are suggesting.

    You can blame democrats, or Republicans, liberals or conservatives call them communists if you wish it is a choice you make that does not make them socialists or communists.

    You also must appreciate the fact that America has a diversity of opinions, yours is only but like a drop of water in an ocean of opinions. What gives you confidence that your views are right and my views aren’t?

    I think as a US resident I must strongly believe that the US president is protecting American interests throughout the world and making sure that I am protected and defended while I am a US permanent resident or Naturalized citizen.

    To think otherwise is being un American and demanding too much than necessary. Taking for granted what we already have is enough to make you careless enough utter meaningless words about the president.

    What that is getting consumed in your own downfalls that you want to find someone to blame it on and President Obama being someone you did not expect to be a US president is a good target to attack. I cannot understand how you can support the Cleric and ignore your own government.

    Let me tell you that there are many of us who rallied to have Mr Obama become the President both Young and old, White and black yellow and brown saw it fit and worth the American history to have him elected President.

    He is the president and he is sworn to Protect America and he is doing a good job of doing that. For anybody to tell the President is not protecting us, I think it is bull, silly and a character unbecoming in my own view.

    Support your government and work hard in your community and you will find that life indeed is better in America than elsewhere. Where would you rather be?

    Where you air your views against the President and you are not whisked off to jail or where you would talk bad about the President of another country and you are taken to jail immediately regardless whether you are right or wrong?

    I think you must respect the American President and that President does not have to be white or black or brown for him to command some respect.If you have no respect for the President at least show respect for the office.

    Mr. Obama told the American people he wanted to see Health care reform, education reform, Financial reform and Immigration reform. American people responded overwhelmingly and elected him to do the Job and as far as I am concerned we are on target of what the electorate is looking for in Government.

    What you all should do Judge Mr Obama and what Government is doing by examining performance, recognize success, how he solves domestic and international problems. Planned actions and steps they have taken so far and how government is sharing information and coordinating domestic policy.

    At the end of the day, we can make the case that Democrats and Republicans have been doing a good Job of confronting domestic problems and ironing out problems and arriving at solutions. So far if they are solutions which any of you think do not favor your case then you need to communicate what is it you want. Share ideas on how to correct or remedy your situation by talking to your representative.

    I strongly believe Washington DC has a major problem and that is making rules that have not helped everyone in society. But we expect this problem because there are approximately 340 million Americans who are day and night sharing limited and scarce resources.

    Ability and willingness of people to take responsibility for directing their own behavior and character performs miracles in society. This the kind of maturity Government needs to help combat criminal behavior.

    The cleric should be doing exactly that but he is doing the opposite making it hard for the Obama administration. Should Government not bring to justice those involved in criminal behavior that breeds terrorism?

    Most of you who oppose the President seem to have what I may call selective perception.This is whereby you choose to interpret what you see about Mr. Obam’s Administration on the basis of your own background, interests, attitudes,values, and personality. The fact that we are routing for the President now is to you criminal then. That sort of thing is not only silly it is idiotic.

    However, we are not bound by anybody’s stupidity. We continue to seek what is better in our Government and promote ideas by communicating what we want and believe in. I beg you all to do the same rather than radically being against your own government just because it headed by some black dude. The Guy is intelligent, articulate in the rule of law and believe in the US constitution.

    Stay away from rationalizing your own foolishness out of frustration, associated with fear, blame that is causing false statements to be made about reasons for your own personal failures.

    I blame no government or President for not having a good job even though I have a college degree, with skills that I know I could apply to serve. Sometimes we must be optimistic and have hope that things will be better if not for us for the future generations.

    Following the rules or steps of logical thinking in resolving a dilemma or making a choice is important. Mr Obama does that so well that he frustrates Republicans who find themselves on the other side of his views.

    Further Mr Obama gives Republicans time to decide for themselves again and again but they always screw up because they want to oppose him without reason. Such form of frustration they impose on themselves is short sighted and it is the lack of ideas that force them to be unresponsive in social problems.

    Republicans are the minority and therefore, Democrats have a responsibility to recognize that “We the people” gave them power for Good reason.

    Therefore, it is their duty or obligation to exercise authority to achieve the purpose for which the authority was delegated to them during Vote decision 2008 and the President must follow the rules and procedures set to serve the American people.

    Correct me if I am wrong, Mr Obama has done so well with an impeccable character and determination. It is no point to blame Mr Obama or His Administration for doing well to fight against unemployment and maintain the economy rather than leaving it to crush.

    • Jeep

      Robert, first I will say, “Good try…” Ho-hum. I will not try to answer every “point” as it would be a waste of time and energy. But, you are an interesting character in that, on the one hand, you decry those that desparage the prezident’s policies by calling them “un American” yet you praise the freedoms our great nation supports. You either believe in the First Amendment or you don’t. Second, you make a big issue of “Taking for granted what we already have is enough to make you careless enough utter meaningless words…” Hello? This is America, you must not understand that we true Americans always want more. And, we recognize our unique place in history and the world. It’s called American exceptionalism. Go back to your citizenship class and take your “old world” views with you. When you are ready to play as an American, who believes in the greatness of our nation, come back. As for the rest of your “meaningless words” the prez has lied on a number of occasions…too bad for you that you cannot see it for what it is.

    • Mick for thought

      I am not a total believer in President Obama. He has not kept all of his campaign promises but unlike Glenn Beck’s disciples on this page I do believe he is trying keep his promises far better than any of his predecessors in the past 20 years. Bipartisanism is like marriage both sides need to try to make it happen. One devoted partner can not succeed.

      As far as the cleric goes he may have been born in America but he turned his back, walked away and joined the enemy. He is the enemy and should be treated as such. Shoot him, bomb him or capture him if we can. Better alive; our FBI is very good at getting real information during legal interrogations.

      Hi, ho,hi,ho back to work I go.

      • Cindy

        Bob Wire says: Glenn Beck’s disciples on this page
        ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

        Ummm? Gee Mick, I think you’re lost, both literally & figuratively. The Glen Beck disciples are on the Glen Beck site. We are Bob Livingstons disciples, thank you very much.
        Like so many liberals, you appear to be a bit dazed and confused.

        • Mick for thought

          Unfortunately for me I am an insomnic independent I watch to much TV news (right and left) and to much time searching the internet. If there are no Glenn Beck desciples on here why are they directly quoting him? I like Bob’s site better than most but there is plenty of crazies from both sides of the politcal spectrum ranting in here. Trying to push me into the liberal box like others have tried does not make you correct just pushy.

          • Cindy

            Directly quoting Glen Beck? Don’t you think it’s possible that two or more people out of 6 billion, could come up with the same idea, or quote at the same time?

          • JeffH

            Mick, just an FYI here…quoting Beck? I wouldn’t be able to quote Beck if I tried…just don’t watch him enough to do that. There are plenty of people in this country that, I’m sure, have similar thoughts about the POTUS, his cronies and the push towards complete socialism and ultimately globalism. Beck is very good at his JOB and is teaching something that a lot of students used to learn before the ACLU…true American history…the fact that he is identifying and outing those repeatedly attacking, destroying the “American” way of life gets him a lot of critisizm, some very good and some very bad…what’s true? That’s up to the viewers to decipher along with American history.

          • Mick for thought

            The key word was “direct” quoting. I am sure he has lots of people who believe as he does. He would not have a show if he didn’t. I will try to catch the direct quotes and attach a link next time, okay?

        • Mick for thought

          You suure do throw that liberal mud on everything to see if it sticks. Is that your best answer to a earnest question

    • Right Wing

      Rob, I got about 1/4 through your pontification and decided you don’t have a solid thought process. You should try to boil the water off and get to the sap because I suspect you might have some consistent thought worth commenting on. Keep trying though.

  • chuck b

    magee, robert h o

    you stand corrected. this man is a fraud, he does not respect this country and his lies are monumental. without listing all the wrong doings, you would have to be blind not to know. he has no idea of what is in the bills he signs, obviously, if you have watched him questioned on national tv he cannot answer a direct question on the content of bills such as hc or the bailout bills. he admits in front of the nation he has not read the bills, the latest being the arizona ab1070 and he insults the federal law on immigration while the democratic congress applauds him and admits he had not read the bill. you tell me he has impeccable character. please!! make an appointment with your eye and ear doctor.
    mr. barry soetoro should be impeached for impersonating a president.

  • N. J. Stone

    I laugh till I cry when I hear all you ‘dumdems’ praising ‘BamBam’, the guy that can’t read with out a teleprompter, and by the way has broken 14 promises according to an educated black I recently heard on talk radio. He has abondment issues, since his mother dumped him on his commie grandparents. Election day a young black was interviewed by drive-by media and she stated on national t.v. she wadn’t gonna have to pay her car note, her utilities, rent or anything else, Mr. Obama was gonna take care of her! Just wonder how the “change” is workin’ for you slobs? My social security and parttime wages (usually a couple days a month) are not going far at all and “Boom-Boom” is not paying one farthing for me! I’m just waiting and watching the passing parade, and by the way, if they come to take my gun, they can have it BULLETS FIRST!!!!!

  • http://patrickdavis3@mac.com patrickcake

    what planet are you on lady. he hasn’t honored any of his promises. one the most glaring is transparency,then bi-partisanship. all of these things are happening on planet earth. you sound like you live on some other planet. you sound so sweet and idealistic but you obviously don’t pay attention to what is happening in the world today. why do you think the greeks are rioting? something about bankruptcy and the nanny state that is collapsing. Spain and italy are next or maybe the good old USA. wake-up nap time is over. as far as your take on unemployment it’s at 9.7 % and the actual figure if you take into consideration people that have just given up or are doing part time work is more like 17.5%. He is not doing well at anything. wake-up and have a cup. you’ll get it if you just pay attention. the republicans were locked out of the discussions about health care. when Nancy Pelosi was asked what is in the bill her comment was” when the bill passes we can all read it and find out” . She is the speaker of the house. how is that for a scare thought. your president thinks there are 57 states. and your vice-president was on television with Katie Curic telling her that FDR was on television in the late thirties discussing clean coal. these guys probably were probably living on the same planet that you now live on.

  • Mick for thought

    Good morning to all. Do not have time to debate but only throw out a few tidbits of history to fight over.

    1. Clinton bombed a convoy of Somalis that were connected with the killing of our troops in the 90s.
    2. Clinton had bin Laden in his sites but did not pull the trigger.
    3. Obama now has a young American born bin Laden wannabe in his sites. Do you care where the bad guys are born?

    What would you Rather he do – wait until this man matures into a greater threat than he already is or bomb him as the enemy he is?

    So DaveH what am I now liberal or warmonger? Still waiting for a little bit of bio on your worldly experience or education.

    • Jeep

      Mick, good points…buuuut, I have some reservations about “targeting” a US citizen…kinda…I guess I am torn on this one, but it seems to me that unless he has taken direct action against the US, or our interests it is more a criminal matter than a military matter…hmmm

      • Mick for thought

        Okay, one more comment before I finish work. He left America and became the enemy. When German Americans went back to join Hitler they were treated as the enemy is the parallel I am following. The cleric is helping to train terrorist that are attacking our country. Do we want him to get better at it as bin Laden did? War crime?

        • Jeep

          No worries, Mick! I said I have “reservations”. But, then again, I had “reservations” the first time I pulled a trigger for Uncle Sam back in 1982, and again in ’89, and again in ’91 and again in ’01-07. Just thinking out loud, that’s all.

          • Mick for thought

            Sounds like we pounded some of the same ground. thanks for serving.

    • Right Wing

      Throw in Roman Polanski and he has my support.

      • Mick for thought

        Use Polanski for chum while shark fishing.

  • JeffH

    timr, I wanted to make sure you caught yourself when you made the irrational statement about the Jehovah Witness letting their children die because they don’t take blood tranfusions.

    You really should start “fact checking” your mis-information.

    Jehovah’s Witnesses Accepting Blood Transfusion
    Lee Elder, Director
    Associated Jehovah’s Witnesses for Reform on Blood
    2009

    It is a myth that all Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse blood transfusion. Many members of this religious
    community do not believe it wrong to accept blood transfusion therapy.

    http://www.ajwrb.org/Jehovah_s_Witnesses_Accept_Blood_Transfusion.pdf

  • Mick for thought

    Voice of Reason says:
    May 24, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    Read all your links and they are quite interesting. However if any of this is true why didn’t Bush the Clintons, McCain or the US intelligence community get to the truth before the election. Makes me ponder who is forging what, Obama or the people making the allegations.

  • eddie47d

    Pat Davis, Why accuse anyone of being on food stamps or welfare unless you know the facts. That says alot about what kind of person you are. (can you say liar!). I got A’s in History so keep talking with your little mind.

    • JeffH

      eddie47d…why not get on some of the liberals that have accused, repeatedly, others as being on welfare and food stamps..all in the interest of making those accusations personal and intentional…you’ve seen it before and you’ll see it again.

      • Mick for thought

        He is right Ed. Police your side of the fence instead of tossing the trash in your neighbor’s yard.

  • Right Wing

    Targeting this religious zealot highlights the broad moral latitudes that challenge a Constitutionally defined boundary. Without spelling out the obvious benefits of eliminating Awlaki from his sphere of influence he is an American citizen and deserves to be treated as such, without exception. I am certain that the founding fathers were familiar with pirates and considered them terrorists; therefore I conclude that future American-born terrorists were envisioned as a possibility even in their day. This is not to say that our founding fathers anticipated the brand of cowardice exhibited by Islamic extremists or that America would produce such sons of anarchy.

    It is then possible that an amendment (as provisioned in the constitution itself) may be required to address this new enemy traitor? Perhaps this amendment revokes citizenship for such traitors that take refuge abroad and engage in terrorist activities against America. Any and all actions would be permitted to engage such traitors as foreign enemies that commit acts of war. If not against America directly then he/she retains citizenship to be charged and extradited to the US to face a singular charge of capital punishment for crimes against humanity.

    • JeffH

      Right Wing, what you have said makes a lot of sense and is very well thought out.

    • Mick for thought

      What did we do when Americans of German decent went to Germany and joined the enemy? Did they die on the battlefield with the other soldiers? When captured did we separate them from the other POWs? Did we have to amend the constitution for them? Not saying it is a bad idea just wondering if we already dealt with this in the past.

      • Mick for thought

        We know what we did to Japanese Americans. That would not be a good thing to do twice.

        • JeffH

          Having known a few Japanese quite well, who’s families were interned at Tule Lake, Ca, I would like to believe we have learned from that history lesson.
          As for German/Americans that returned to fight for the Nazis, not much is written that I can find. I’m sure they paid a dear price fighting for Hitler. I do know the German-American Bund or German American Federation (German: Amerikadeutscher Bund) was an American Nazi organization established in the 1930s and was led by Fritz Kuhn. dubbed the “American fuehrer”. Its main goal was to promote a favorable view of Nazi Germany. It was pretty much a disaster from the start. Most German Americans were not Nazi-sypathizers.
          The emphasis on Americanism paid off, and a revival of anti-German hysteria did not occur. There were some unfortunate incidents of violence and prejudice against Germans during World War II, but they were not widespread. The extent of the government’s internment of German Americans during the war is hotly debated among scholars, but it was indisputably small in comparison to the internment of Japanese Americans.
          http://www.americainwwii.com/stories/americansforhitler.html

          • Mick for thought

            Thanks for the info. All good to know stuff. I enjoy reading your thoughts when you’re not just poking at the hornets nest. My thought line was why make some special interest of this cleric. He left America to be the enemy. Does he really deserve protection under the constitution if he left us and joined the jihadist enemy against us.

          • Right Wing

            Good post JeffH. Mick good and fair question…you are alright. Posed with your question I did retract a bit to wonder if this were worth a constitutional amendment. Amendments are not to be taken lightly and I will admit there are many more people with greater brain power and world political experience than I possess to make that decision. My first thought was more middle fence politics where the decision to target Awlaki is acceptable to me…just take care of business and hope the media does not side with one extreme or the other. Lets face it this guy is a dirt bag coward hiding in plain sight among a bunch of other underdeveloped cerebral cortices with a bent for killing infidels and nailing virgins. I think that any religion which promotes homosexual acts between men, mutilation of women’s genitalia, and crossing through a kamikaze death to get laid by a bunch of virgins is so far out whacked that maybe a constitutional amendment is needed to deal just with this brand of psycho? Just saying.

  • phil p

    dude im telling you Obama is trying to destroy the U.S. He is a —– and fundamentally changing what made the U.S. such a huge competitor. He made all the wrong decisions that is creating so much debt and creating no room for economic stability. I cant wait for this (word removed) to get out of the white house and for nancy pelosi to get the (word removed) out of politics. I cannot stand any of these democratic liberal —– who believe that everyone is entitled to free everything. And this Puerto Rico bill… are u (word removed) serious… you wanna make a country a part of the united states that has citizens average 17,000 a year… HORRAY!!!! MORE people we gotta support with OBAMAS BRILLIANT HEALTHCARE REFORM…. And my favorite part is our dip—- A.G. has the right to speak in favor of the bill and… heres the kicker HASNT EVEN READ THE (word removed) THING>….. OBAMA GET THE (word removed) OUT OF MY COUNTRY

  • owldog

    RE: KASI (AMERICAN) says:

    May 24, 2010 at 3:42 pm

    Oh my god,its unreal how hopeless you people are,how do you fix Bushes mess, spend more money than he or any other president (COMBINED)…

    ————————————————

    You can have your own opinion, Kasi, but not your own facts. Figures are hard to say exactly. It’s a moving target, but the debt was around $5 Trillion when Bush came into office, $10 Trillion when Bush left office, and is about $11 Trillion today, even with all the stimulus to get us going again.

    The sky is not falling, Chicken Little, but the fox is waiting for you in the cave.

    • http://none Jeff

      I read that Clinton left Bush with a 150 billion dollar surplus and Bush left with a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit or something to that effect. What if we spent on peace what we spend on war?

      • Right Wing

        JeffH, I support the military almost to a point of blind following. I have known so many military heroes and always felt a deep reverence for their service even though my closest experience was only through ROTC. As our country has struggled financially lately, I have been taking a different focus on the depth of our militia. The point of maintaining a militia is heavily addressed in the constitution; however, I do not believe the intent was to use the militia to serve as a spear point for politicians nor was it intended as a world police force. My conclusion is that the US military is larger than it needs to be but like any government branch it will use any tactic to maintain and even increase its operation budget. I think it is about time to perform an in depth analysis of the military including, but not limited to, current assets, man power, technology, etc. I am in n o way suggesting the military become a target for spending cuts…I simply believe that since the military budget accounts for (by my quick estimate) %7 of US GDP. There may be room for tuning the military.

        • JeffH

          Right Wing wrong JeffH…this one was Jeff…

          • JeffH

            This JeffH agrees with you too.

          • Steve

            I almost made the same mistake a few days ago when I read smth the “blue lettered” jeff said. I thought you had fallen and hit your head on a liberal rock, until I saw his name was blue and there was no “H”
            Now there is another “black lettered” steve. At least he is somewhat conservative, but if he doesn’t add a letter to his name he will have to take schit from all the liberal enemies I’ve made for all my right wing “extremists” posts. ;-)
            ………………………………………………………………………………………….

            http://www.rallycongress.com/2/3244

            This is a petition link to oppose the United Nations small arms treaty that Sec. of State Hillary Clinton just signed. This is important people. There are less than 100 signatures on this petition so far, and the 2nd amendment is the MOST IMPORTANT ONE OF ALL It protects all other amendments and the Constitution itself! Please sign it and pass the link on to everyone on your email list. This will probably be OUR ONLY CHANCE TO STOP THIS.

          • http://none Jeff

            I am actually Jeff H. as well but just go by Jeff.

          • denniso

            Sorry,but you should realize that it’s the right to vote that protects
            our rights,not guns. If you really think that you and a posse of small armed clint eastwood wannbe’s are going to ‘protect our rights’ w/ your guns, then you’ve been watching too many cowboy movies. If the right to vote does not ensure our other rights then you can kiss freedom goodbye.

          • Dave

            LOL dungiso,
            You need to do some learning sonny. Maybe you should start by reading the Constitution. It’s painfully obvious by your post that you haven’t read it yet. The “right” to vote is exactly that, a right. How long do you think you’ll have that right without the Constitution you idiot?
            Why do you think there is a second amendment? Do you think it is for hunting and target shooting? You’re really a stupid one.

            BTW you are the only one that wants to be a cowboy dungiso. We can tell by the way you’re always going off half cocked around here. You’ve shot yourself in the foot more times than all the other liberal posters combined.

          • denniso

            Are you deluded and dense enough to really think that you and your NRA buddies are ever going to fight and win a battle or war w/ the local,state and federal police and military? If so, then welcome to David Coresh’s and Tim McVeigh’s world…a dead end street.
            The 2nd ammendment says pretty clearly the right to bear arms is connected to the security of the country and says nothing at all about armed insurection…who’s the fool?
            We can vote for people who abide by the constitution,not those like Cheny/Bush, and that will keep us free.

          • Cindy

            Duh duh dummyso,
            What color is the sky in your little world? Is it white? Are all the walls and floor padded so you can’t hurt yourself?

          • denniso

            Cindy…you just can’t seem to make an intelligent comment,can you?
            You also can’t figure out that making inane comments doesn’t actually bother me…but,keep trying if you want to waste your time and show your immaturity.

          • Steve

            Dungiso, Intelligent comments? You’re the proverbial pot calling the kettle black. Were STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO MAKE AN INTELLIGENT COMMENT! DO YOU HAVE EVEN ONE?
            All you ever do is spew the same liberal socialist rhetoric from your puppet leader the P.O.T.U.S. and his merry band of A.C.O.R.N.S.
            Why don’t you get some new material dumbiso. Your soundbites were bordering on old, several months ago.

          • denniso

            My comments are worthless?…as compared to your finely thought out and substantial and deep thinking one?

          • Steve

            Still waiting dumbiso, for just one truthful, factual comment, (NOT your opinion) and without your liberal spin on it, and it can’t be from your only news source, Robt. Gibbs. Do you have one yet? No? I didn’t think so………

          • denniso

            Sure…Bush is a fool,Cheny is evil and if you supported them then you were either blind or a pure party loyalist.
            The economy is stabilized and the Dow has gained 70% from it’s low a year or so ago,all under Obama. Obama has followed what all economists
            and even Bush said we had to do to save the global economy from a collapse that would ahve made ’29 look like a picnic.
            You’re a partisan and follow your leaders like Limbaugh/Beck.
            I’m an independent and criticize people I like as well as those I loathe.

        • http://none Jeff

          I think some of the companies that sell equipment to the military have their CEO’s or people high up in the organization become part of the government to help them obtain lucrative government contracts (Boeing?, Halliburton?). They may even have shares in the company. The American military may not need certain products but it is in their interest to get the company a contract because when their government contract is up they will go back to the company to a plum position because they lobbied while in government for them. Just try to stop the lobbyist masquerading as a government official from being on the committee that is looking at cost-saving measures because he is biased.
          It may be in America’s best interest not to be at war due to loss of life and cost but the companies will give money to the candidate that will keep you at war because they make more money that way. Sadly the supreme court has antied up on the side of corporations that have deep pockets to buy elections to get what they want which is huge profits.

          • denniso

            Eisenhower warned us about it when he left office…the military industrial cogressional complex.

        • Bob Wire

          >>I support the military almost to a point of blind following. I have known so many military heroes and always felt a deep reverence for their service even though my closest experience was only through ROTC. As our country has struggled financially lately, I have been taking a different focus on the depth of our militia.<<<

          Well you need to understand the American Military is only a biting dog on a chain. They carry no ideologies but do what they are commanded to do.

          If you support the military you offer them sound and qualified leadership.

          This America has not done well.

          What does Dick the Snake Chaney, Donald Ashcroft, Karl Rove or Wolfiwitz know about military matters?

          Nothing. They created a major mess.

          • denniso

            People in combat,including medics and truck drivers,make the greatest sacrifice there is,putting their lives on the line. The Bush/Cheny administration horribly abused the sacrifices of our soldiers by putting them in Iraq when they should never have been there,and by not finishing the Afghan war after 7yrs under their mismanagement. We now are still engaged in the two longest wars in our history at the same time. It ought to be criminal…

  • Mick for thought

    To many pointless tangents and name calling on this one. I see some good points both sides any they are side stepped like seasoned politicians. Come on be civli and exercise a few brain cells to come up with your own thoughts people. If I want to whatch FOX or MSNBC I can be much more comfortable watching it in bed.

  • Right Wing

    Mick, While it is fun to banter, the topics posed generally represent (obviously) the conservative viewpoint. I believe it is widely accepted that there are two extremes of political viewpoint ranging from mental jail to free utopia. I enjoy reading good viewpoints from both sides and accept there will be comments ranging from each extreme. Although I haven’t seen too many from the utopia side? Maybe they don’t intervene in the arcane arguments found here or are just to busy feeling good? Anyway…I agree that many of the really good points get passed on because the short, inflammatory comments bury them. The blogger’s motto…”keep an open mind but watch out for skydivers”.

    • Mick for thought

      Without a left and right wing to create a balance this country would be unable to fly and simply spiral into self destruction as the Soviet Union of only one political viewpoint did. Share thought not insults. Off to work I go.

  • rwnut

    dingyoso…the only thing you are about is picking words out of the air and putting them in someones statement to change the meaning to what you want.Like Michael Savage said,”You ain’t -issing on my back and calling it rain”. You’re despicable! You’re a phony! Just like Hussien O.

    • denniso

      Anyone,absolutely anyone,who quotes Savage and agrees w/ the him has the credibility of a pinhead…simple but true.

      • rwnut

        dengyoso….But you love to quote the Liar in Chief,Hussien O,don’t you? Tells me a lot about your character.Michael Savage has the credentials,and he’s not afraid to show them. You only wish you had the -alls Savage has.

      • rwnut

        dengyoso….Go -iss on Hussien O’s back and call it rain.You are one deluded puppet.

        • denniso

          Keep making up names for me so that I don’t see them when I do a search,then I won’t usually see your childish comments…I have never ‘quoted Obama’,so who knows where you’re getting that from.

          You say Savage has credentials? really,like what? If you actually listen to and follow that sick creature,then you’re not worth my time.

          • rwnut

            dengyoso….KMA,COMMIE!

  • Au Contraire

    I have visited many different blog sites just to see if people are gaining any type of awareness beyond this divide and conquer matrix.
    The Handlers of the demonic minions of the New World Order have set mankind up to busy himself with petty grievances constructed as ideological belief systems so he fails to see his enslavement. I have to say no blog site seems to be more entrenched with the useless bickering than this one. There is no such thing as a liberal or a conservative
    they are just labels given to the factions in a fairly bad play with really lousy actors and yet you still believe this bull to be real.
    Wake up for God sake. We have “ONLY ONE” party that is every bit as vicious and greedy and deceptive and unjust as the Communist parties of the 20th Century.That Party is the “American Fascist” party made up of what we are told are the two. The number one goal of this Party? To depopulate the earth by 2/3of the human race, or as Henry Kissinger calls us “USELESS EATERS”. That is not the kind of disrespect for humanity that any South American leader espouses. Talk about brainwashed by propaganda!The inability to discern basic truths are a danger to the rest of humanity. We must understand that other humans are not the enemy! The key to survival of the human race is to get beyond this petty manipulated frame of reference. Why do you think there has never been a day on this planet without human bloodshed as a result of some matrix manipulated conflict or war?Why
    have they decided on non stop war to drive commerce when Peace would work so much better? Depopulation, Why are they turning our environment toxic and suppressing simple 100% effective cures for “ALL”
    diseases instead? [google the patent numbers for the cures for CANCER and AIDS if you don't believe me] or read Gary Null’s “Death by Medicine or watch the movie “In Lies We Trust” it’s free google it.
    DEPOPULATION. Why do they insist on loading our children with mandatory vaccinations that are the most insidious ignoramus and deadly practice of snake oil therapy ever to reach the unsuspecting?Depopulation!Why is one out of every two hundred Americans in prison where 79% ARE IN FOR VICTIMLESS CRIMES?. Police State Despotism fed by a bogus profit driven war on drugs. Oh sure drugs are dangerous in fact they are the number one killer of American people today. However death from illegal drugs alone are so statistically insignificant compared to prescription drugs {the number one killer of Americans} as to be non existent. Why insist on this toxic mix for health? Depopulation for profit. How could human beings do such things to other humans. They don’t. I believe that they are genetically enough different from us that they look at us as nothing more than a farm animal or an energy resource. Watch Ancient Aliens on the History channel. Even the mainstream is finally admitting that we are not alone and never have been. Peace and Resist!

    • rwnut

      Au Contraire….I’m with you 100%.

  • DangerousDoug

    Nothing in this great country stand’s if we loose the 2nd ammendment.

    • denniso

      Don’t be absurd…the 2nd ammendment is not going anywhere and it doesn’t ‘protect’ anything else anyway,except in the rare case of self defense. You’re being hyperbolic and wrong at the same time.

  • rwnut

    Dengyoso….The NRA and the estimated 80,000,000 gun owners in America will win. The NRA trains the police,idiot. What did Coresh do to make Slick Willie Clinton and Janet(Dyke)Reno burn all those children and women alive? He had a few guns for defense and was a preacher.In your warped little mind those are criminal offenses. Not yet pal.Those are Constitutional rights.It was proven all they did was defend themselves when attacked. And McVeigh made it clear that he did what he did to avenge those deaths. Right or wrong,those are the facts.Army tanks againsts children. Ruby Ridge;shoot unarmed women in the head while holding her baby. Shoot a 13 yr.old in the back. Your left wing liberal commie government,and those who support them(you),have much innocent blood on their hands! Who the hell on here is talking about an armed insurrection? We’re talking about resistance to government tyranny and self protection. You Fool!
    An oppressed people are authorized whenever they can to rise and break their fetters.
    Henry Clay,to the House of Representatives,1818

    When all other rights are taken away the right of rebellion is made perfect.
    Thomas Paine,First Principles of Government,1795

    • denniso

      I try to not call people idiots,unlike you. I tell my daughter to not use the word. But you and people like you are more than idiots,you’re dangerous idiots. Justifying McVeigh incinerating little kids because he was ‘avenging’ the Waco fiasco…plain stupid!
      Coresh was ‘marrying’ young girls and the state had an obligation to investigate since that’s considered rape which if you don’t know is a crime. All he had to do is walk out of the compound and face the allegations in court…no,he had to keep his followers w/ him and push the gov’t to force the issue. The gov’t maybe should have backed off for a while,but they would have been blamed if there had been a mass suicide anyway. It was a tragedy,but Coresh was a coward and egomaniac and ultimately responsible.
      And,you say you aren’t talking armed insurection,just armed ‘resistance’? Do you really think people other than you are that dumb to not know that is essentially the same thing?

      • denniso

        Most of the NRA are a bunch of cowardly cowboy wannabe’s…

        • rwnut

          dengyoso….Us NRA cowboys are the only thing that gives YOU the choice to own a gun and protect yourself. That,and the Constitution.
          YEEEEEEEEHAAW,dingy!

      • rwnut

        dengyoso….Go back and check your posts and see who you have called a fool. Your taking words out of the air and putting them in peoples statements. I did not say I justified McVeigh,I QUOTED HIS STATEMENT TO AUTHORITIES. Stop making things up. The rumors about the young girls were just that,RUMORS. Made up by the government to justify building a case. Justification to you is this….I THINK he had a few guns(nothing illegal about that,and that’s what it started over),I THINK he raped a young girl,and he WAS a preacher. No dendyoso,it was proven by an investigation that the whole thing could have been avoided if they had simply arrested Coresh on the street on the gun charges. I’ll say it again,in your follow the criminal governments way of thinking,that justifies burning them alive,idiot.(Apologies to your daughter)

  • Rod

    Obama and his crowd of criminals are out to destroy the United States
    of America.Every breath he takes, every move he makes is meant to lead this country into a Socialism. This, of coarse, will NOT happen!
    He will fail, just like Hitler did. We will just send him back to Kenya, WHERE HE WAS BORN!

    • denniso

      You’re as dumb and foolish as your buddy above…ridiculous,absurd,
      idiotic,stupid,asinine,childish,juvenile,insane,dimwit comment.

      • Steve

        Hey Dumbaso,
        Thanks for publishing your character traits, but you forgot to add that you are quite “moronic” also.

        • denniso

          So, I take that to mean that you agree w/ the foolish and childish Rod…pathetic.

          • rwnut

            dengyoso…..I agree with him wholeheartedly. The Liar in Cheif’s battle cry is,”Divide America and Conquer Her”. It’s almost election time Dengyoso.

      • rwnut

        dengyoso…It was 3 minutes between your last 2 posts when you said…”I try not to call anyone idiot”,(5/28-6:30pm)and then you call Rod an idiot,among other things.(5/28-6:33pm) Something tells me your a liar dingy. Your character is showing again. The leftwing venom and lies just seem to flow like warm honey,don’t they dingy? As your commie/socialist leader would say,”UMM,UMM,UMM”.

  • http://trukerdad1019@att.net JOHN LEWIS BECK

    These Communists we have running OUR country have got to be THROWN OUTTA OFFICE by whatever means NECESSARY!!I heard today that the Joe Sestak case was , Obama asked Emanuel to ask Clinton to ask him if he would take a NON-PAYING JOB. bla bla bla. I say this is TOTAL B.S. as if this was the case they would’ve let it be known 2 months ago!! I say IF this IS the case , Obama, Emanuel, and BILL CLINTON should be RUNG up on CONSPIRACY CHARGES and PUT IN JAIL WHERE THEY BELONG!!!!!

    • denniso

      Tsk,tsk…much ado about nothing. Ever heard of politics dude?

      • rwnut

        dengyoso….Ever heard of crimes and misdemeanors in high office? Since you and the Big O have been proven to be liars don’t expect conservatives and the right to beleive anything you say.Much ado about plenty!

  • JeffH

    duh!nisso reminds me of the old thoroughbred race horse named “Toilet Paper”, always running behind and wiping up the rear.

  • http://ronyvo@yahoo.com Bill

    http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html
    To those who are still in doubt that this country is in GREAT danger and we are not doing a thing about it.

    • denniso

      We are in great danger…from 2 unfinished wars that are now the longest in our history,and started under Cheny/Bush,and are helping drag the economy down…we are in great danger from the largest economic collapse in 80 yrs,once again begun under Cheny/Bush,and now
      w/ continuing obstruction from his party working against the fixes we need to come out of the giant hole we fell into.

      The Repubs are only interested in making sure that Obama has an even more difficult time and is denied any credit for stabilizing the economy,all w/ the intent of regaining power,not helping the country.

      • rwnut

        dengyoso…You didn’t watch the video like Bill asked you to,did you? Typical leftwing liberal tactic. When the facts are presented change the subject. YOU don’t want to watch the video because that would mean you would have to face the facts.Watch it and tell us how you can justify Bush AND YO MAMA OBAMA for keeping the borders open.
        http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html.
        Elect J.D.Hayworth in ARIZONA!

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